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15:39.13KingAztechIs anyone interested in buying a C3200?
15:39.29KingAztechI've tried customizing it but it's making me pull my hair out of my head
15:39.33Tomoeowned
15:39.40KingAztechand i cant return it >.>
15:39.42KingAztechoh
15:39.44Tomoehow much would it go for then?
15:39.50Tomoehi btw
15:41.11KingAztechI'm not too sure... folks down http://www.oesf.org/forum/ are selling it for £200+
15:41.31KingAztechI've registered and activated my account but i need to be approved by the owner or something
15:43.26Tomoewhen did you buy it
15:43.36KingAztechover the summer holiday
15:43.48KingAztech(2008)
15:45.09KingAztechI'm afraid to sell it on ebay... who knows hardly anyone will bid and i will loose quite a bit of money lol
15:45.43Tomoelol
15:45.51Tomoeput a reserve price then
15:46.18Tomoewhy did you buy it, there are much better options these days
15:46.19Tomoe?
15:46.46frostschutzI put my C1000 up for sale for 300 Euro or so (including SD 1GB, CF LAN, CF WLAN), but no one wanted it ;)
15:46.57frostschutzso I keep it
15:47.32Tomoeyeah
15:47.41TomoeI'm afraid it will be the same for you, KingAztech
15:48.04Tomoeif I was in market for a pda/micropc today, I wouldn't go for a zaurus
15:48.08KingAztechWell, it's kinda a sad story. A friend of mine, quite geeky and really into pda/linux etc. talked about getting one but never had the money to do so... i bought him it for his birthday but he died the night before in a car crash
15:48.53Tomoeoh
15:48.58KingAztechso i decided to explore the c3200 but it's way to complex. It can do a lot but you need to put a lot of effort, buy cards, and have a lot of knowledge which i dont have
15:49.10Tomoewell
15:49.13Tomoeif so
15:49.19Tomoesell it on ebay for whatever price it gets
15:49.33Tomoethen spend that on flowers and candles for the friend =)
15:50.26KingAztechHe past away a few months ago, besides i just checked out ebay and it seems that there is already one listed
15:50.30KingAztechand it's at £30 atm
15:50.32KingAztechlol
15:50.50Tomoeeh
15:51.17Tomoewhy weren't you able to return it?
15:51.43KingAztechyou can only return it if its faulty
15:52.23frostschutzwow
15:52.37frostschutzwish I had a friend who'd give me a Z as a present... I had to buy my own ;)
15:52.44Tomoewell
15:52.47KingAztechlol
15:53.03Tomoeseeing how that came in package with dying one day later, I wouldn't
15:53.19frostschutzcan't you do ads for free in a local newspaper or sth
15:53.36frostschutzor maybe you have a linux user group in your area?
15:53.38frostschutzfind some geeks
15:53.43frostschutzsell it to them
15:54.22KingAztechThat's why i'm here. Thought there were some fans in here.... i'm hoping once i got accepted in OESF i'll have some folks interested there since i'll be happy with £200 or something near it
15:54.38frostschutzI'm afraid you will only find people here who already own a Z ;)
15:54.57Tomoeyup
15:54.58Tomoe=)
15:54.58frostschutzI definitely won't buy another one :)
15:55.07KingAztechlol, probably, but i checked out their fs/ft section and it seems like people are buying/selling their stuff
15:55.20Tomoea lot more people are selling I'd say
15:55.21Tomoe=))
15:55.24frostschutzyou can try
15:55.32frostschutznothing to lose after all :;)
15:56.12Tomoeyup
15:56.14Tomoe=)
15:56.21KingAztechlol
15:56.45KingAztechlol, worth a try... i dont mind if i loose quite a bit of money... better then letting it catch dust
15:57.15KingAztechfrostschutz, what would you say is a really good price for a c3200?
15:57.21frostschutzdunno
15:57.32Tomoewell, since it was supposed to be a present you won't be losing any money
15:57.33frostschutzI wasn't able to sell mine so I'm the wrong person to ask
15:57.39Tomoeheh
15:57.45frostschutzstart high, you can always go lower ;)
15:58.17KingAztechlol, start too high and i'll end up like you :P
15:58.26frostschutzmy price wasn't that high
15:58.33frostschutza new c1000 is 350 euro here in germany
15:58.44frostschutzI tried to sell mine in  perfect condition with tons of addons for 300
15:58.58KingAztechreally? oh, i guess people don't like it nowadays
15:59.01frostschutzlan and wlan cf cards are also hard to come by here ;)
15:59.18TomoeKingAztech: yes, there are a lot more better options these days unfortunately (for you)
15:59.21frostschutzif I had to buy the stuff new I'd probably be at 500+ euro
15:59.28Tomoenokia tablets for example
15:59.34frostschutzthe main problem is netbooks
15:59.37KingAztechTomoe yeah lol
15:59.39Tomoethat too
15:59.43Tomoe-> netbooks
15:59.47frostschutzno one will buy a Z anymore when you can get a linux netbook for less money
15:59.54Tomoeyeah
15:59.54frostschutzif it were me I'd buy a netbook today too
16:00.01KingAztechif it was me i wouldnt have bought the Z but he liked it...
16:00.09frostschutzsame probably goes for the geek friend ;)
16:00.15KingAztechyeah, lol i bought a AA1
16:00.17Tomoewhat about local LUGs etc
16:00.25Tomoeeh
16:00.31TomoeI'm thinking about the Note Mini
16:00.44TomoeHP
16:01.24frostschutzit's not just the Z, PDA in general are not hot sellers right now. You either get a phone (smart mobile pda-like edition), a navi (car gps solution), or a netbook/laptop. PDA is no longer on any list
16:01.42Tomoehear hear
16:01.58Tomoethe population that'd be interested in a Z is tiny these days
16:02.04Tomoeand most of them do have one or more already
16:02.05Tomoe=))
16:02.36Tomoeif you're not willing to "lose" quite a bit of the money you paid for it you should keep it and play with it
16:07.30frostschutzoh, while we're on the topic of geeky presents, my brother gave me a xilinx spartan-3e FPGA platform starter kit as a birthday present
16:07.44frostschutznot even opened the box, I simply don't have time for such a thing
16:08.03frostschutzwonder if I should sell it ...
16:08.16frostschutzbut probably even fewer people want that than a Z
16:08.24Sketchprobably most of the people who would buy a Z are buying a second one
16:08.25Tomoehm
16:08.48TomoeSketch: they did it when sharp stopped producing z
16:08.49Tomoe=D
16:08.58Tomoefrostschutz: how much would you sell it for?
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16:09.13frostschutzTomoe: no idea
16:09.26Tomoesounds interesting
16:09.32Tomoemaybe I should get into fpga
16:09.34Tomoe=))
16:12.29frostschutzone is getting sold at ebay, it's at 56EUR already, still >2 days to go
16:12.48frostschutzI'll bookmark it and see how much it actually sells for ;)
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16:12.53Tomoelol
16:13.07Tomoethis it
16:13.08Tomoehttp://www.xilinx.com/products/devkits/HW-SPAR3E-SK-US-G.htm
16:13.09Tomoe?
16:14.10frostschutzyup seems like it
16:15.00frostschutz150$ doesn't sound too bad for a fpga solution (if you're interested in programming hardware)
16:15.31Tomoewell
16:15.59Tomoeif you decide to let it go for below 100$ let me know
16:16.05frostschutzbut all the programming I do these days is in python, which is far away from hardware thankfully. I don't want to touch assembler ever again ;)
16:17.02Tomoehah
16:17.09Tomoemaybe they'll have python-on-chip
16:17.12Tomoehahah
16:17.39TomoeI remember the pascal-on-chip hardware interpreters
16:17.41Tomoedamn
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