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| 00:20.14 | scottlfa | Any news Frostschutz? |
| 00:20.32 | Varthall | hi |
| 00:25.01 | frostschutz | scottlfa: no, it'll have to wait till the weekend, don't have time for experiments before that :) |
| 00:25.09 | frostschutz | but I bookmarked the link you gave me, thanks |
| 00:37.45 | scottlfa | nod |
| 01:58.28 | nox- | gn8 |
| 03:21.48 | totall_6_7 | Well i ran into my first ooops in my pdaXii13 adventure |
| 03:22.29 | totall_6_7 | after partitioning and you reboot you HAVE to remove the CF card |
| 03:30.49 | scottlfa | 3200 or 3100? |
| 03:35.10 | Grecko | Anyone have a good mencoder one liner for encoding for the Z 3100? |
| 03:42.14 | scottlfa | nopa |
| 04:13.41 | totall_6_7 | Well this is no fun |
| 04:14.34 | totall_6_7 | RO File system Flashing..... |
| 04:14.36 | totall_6_7 | 75% |
| 04:14.38 | totall_6_7 | Ooops!! |
| 04:14.40 | totall_6_7 | RO File system: Error While Flashing. |
| 04:14.42 | totall_6_7 | Press the [ENTER] key for reboot |
| 04:36.56 | totall_6_7 | :/ |
| 05:00.46 | totall_6_7 | Well at least i backed things up |
| 05:02.03 | totall_6_7 | trying something |
| 05:07.12 | totall_6_7 | well |
| 05:07.15 | totall_6_7 | hmmmmm |
| 05:08.20 | totall_6_7 | it is talking to me !!! |
| 05:09.48 | totall_6_7 | now this is an interesting twist |
| 05:13.09 | totall_6_7 | ok i am not exactly sure what i did |
| 05:14.02 | totall_6_7 | but i basicly tried everything including downloading the install files, then switched to Allice install files and extracted the hdimage and rebooted |
| 05:14.05 | totall_6_7 | and it worked |
| 05:14.13 | totall_6_7 | i have no clue what made it work |
| 05:14.16 | totall_6_7 | but i have |
| 05:14.18 | totall_6_7 | X!!!! |
| 05:16.21 | totall_6_7 | [20:14:00] <totall_6_7> Well this is no fun |
| 05:16.23 | totall_6_7 | [20:14:53] <totall_6_7> RO File system Flashing..... |
| 05:16.25 | totall_6_7 | [20:14:55] <totall_6_7> 75% |
| 05:16.35 | totall_6_7 | sorry wrong window |
| 05:16.36 | totall_6_7 | grrrr |
| 05:17.05 | totall_6_7 | man am i glad for KVirc's stop paste!!! |
| 05:29.25 | totall_6_7 | Man this is SOOOOOOOO cool!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:29.51 | totall_6_7 | Blue89: thanks for the tips, i still have no clue how it got installed but it did |
| 05:30.18 | Blue89 | you're not out of the woods just yet |
| 05:30.27 | Blue89 | normally you would be, but that flash failed |
| 05:30.35 | Blue89 | so there may be important things missing |
| 05:30.45 | totall_6_7 | actually |
| 05:31.15 | Blue89 | do a "df -h" in the terminal and see how big the root partition is |
| 05:31.30 | Blue89 | I would not be surprised if it is using your NAND instead of the harddrivenow |
| 05:31.37 | Blue89 | it happens |
| 05:31.43 | totall_6_7 | i downloaded and used the allice installer and files to go with it and used that to reflash it |
| 05:32.14 | totall_6_7 | and i got no errors |
| 05:32.16 | totall_6_7 | with that |
| 05:32.18 | Blue89 | anyone else who is familiar with Alicfe should take over from here |
| 05:32.26 | Blue89 | Alice* |
| 05:32.37 | totall_6_7 | i will do your requested command |
| 05:32.38 | totall_6_7 | one sec |
| 05:33.07 | Blue89 | "df -h /" |
| 05:33.43 | totall_6_7 | df -h / |
| 05:33.44 | totall_6_7 | ? |
| 05:34.21 | Blue89 | that's saying " check the disk space on my root partition, and use units like megabytes and gigabytes that are easier for humans to understand |
| 05:35.02 | Blue89 | if oyu do it without the slash it will quote the size on all mounted partitions |
| 05:37.40 | totall_6_7 | Results: /dev/hda1 Size: 2.0G Used: 551.4M Available 1.4G |
| 05:40.20 | totall_6_7 | Blue89: did that give the info you desired? |
| 06:56.03 | totall_6_7 | Blue89: what window manager do you use? |
| 06:57.18 | totall_6_7 | i have to go afk for a while bbiab |
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| 16:57.08 | Blue89 | totall_6_7, I use E17. |
| 16:57.33 | totall_6_7 | ahhh |
| 16:57.44 | totall_6_7 | i ended up using openbox |
| 16:58.46 | Blue89 | E17 has more eye candy. :-P |
| 16:58.59 | totall_6_7 | lo |
| 16:59.01 | totall_6_7 | lol |
| 17:01.38 | Blue89 | totall_6_7, http://polishlinux.org/reviews/e17/e17_2.png |
| 17:02.00 | Tomoe | e16 > * |
| 17:02.16 | Blue89 | "The screenshot is static for obvious reasons, but when you run it yourself you are going to see the nicely animated menu with light effects" |
| 17:03.19 | Tomoe | go away, you sinner! |
| 17:03.33 | Blue89 | ? |
| 17:03.41 | Tomoe | the weakness of the flesh has made you take |
| 17:03.42 | Tomoe | ! |
| 17:03.43 | Tomoe | e17! |
| 17:05.05 | Tomoe | nigga got sideballed |
| 17:05.06 | Tomoe | =D |
| 17:05.12 | Tomoe | Blue89: just kidding |
| 17:05.13 | Blue89 | (but I suspect Tomoe is bipolar) |
| 17:05.16 | Blue89 | lol |
| 17:05.46 | Tomoe | I suspect Blue89 is bisexual |
| 17:05.53 | Blue89 | ? |
| 17:06.03 | Tomoe | trisexual, even! |
| 17:06.05 | Blue89 | I suspect Tomoe is in a bad mood |
| 17:06.09 | Blue89 | lol |
| 17:06.15 | Tomoe | lol |
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| 19:43.06 | totall_6_7 | I LOVE pdaXii13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:43.26 | totall_6_7 | thanks Blue89 for all your help and support!!! |
| 19:49.58 | totall_6_7 | I cant believe how fast it runs |
| 19:50.22 | totall_6_7 | i thought for sure it would slow down to a snails pace |
| 19:50.35 | totall_6_7 | but its no slower than the sharp os |
| 19:50.44 | totall_6_7 | and in some respects its faster |
| 19:52.06 | totall_6_7 | tho now i do have to change my alias :D |
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| 19:53.29 | nox- | moin |
| 19:53.56 | totall_6_7 | hello and good morning nox- |
| 19:54.05 | nox- | moin totall_6_7 |
| 19:54.18 | totall_6_7 | i am sort of jazzed at the moment so you will pardon me if i seem hyper |
| 19:55.10 | totall_6_7 | my xpdaii13 install is WONDERFULL!!! |
| 19:55.44 | nox- | hehe |
| 19:55.46 | nox- | enjoy :) |
| 19:55.59 | totall_6_7 | it works better than the sharp os did |
| 19:56.12 | nox- | whats the difference? |
| 19:57.28 | totall_6_7 | Sharp tried to mix a pda with a laptop and ended up with neither of them being really good. pdaXii13 changes it to a mini laptop so it works better |
| 19:57.45 | nox- | i c |
| 19:57.54 | totall_6_7 | if you use linux you will see that it is like a desktop that you would use at home |
| 19:58.24 | nox- | doesnt the small screen get in the way somewhat? |
| 19:59.23 | totall_6_7 | i am use to small screens, i have had a pocket pc (pda) since about 2002 and the pocket pc has a smaller screen than the Z does |
| 20:11.34 | scottlfa | -grin- |
| 20:17.13 | totall_6_7 | now the fun part is compileing Sword to work on the unit |
| 20:26.32 | totall_6_7 | hmmmmm i wonder if deb packages work with pdaXii13 |
| 20:26.58 | nox- | its based on debian? |
| 20:27.12 | totall_6_7 | yes |
| 20:28.01 | nox- | well in that case i guess all you need to do is get it online and apt-get install ... |
| 20:28.34 | totall_6_7 | actually i have the file.deb to install it |
| 20:29.06 | nox- | is it for the same debian release? |
| 20:30.04 | totall_6_7 | I dont think it matters when its a deb what release the debian is, but i dunno |
| 20:30.17 | nox- | sure it matters |
| 20:30.32 | nox- | shlibs may be different, etc |
| 20:33.34 | totall_6_7 | hmmmm well the worst that happens is the deb package does not work and i have to compile it myself |
| 20:36.49 | nox- | i guess so |
| 20:37.03 | nox- | or just apt-get it |
| 20:37.12 | nox- | if its in debian... |
| 20:37.19 | totall_6_7 | I do not have internet with the Z |
| 20:37.29 | nox- | not even the usb network? |
| 20:37.34 | totall_6_7 | apt-get is not really an option |
| 20:37.39 | totall_6_7 | nope |
| 20:38.06 | nox- | whats the problem with the usb network? |
| 20:38.32 | totall_6_7 | there is no problem i just do not have a usb network card |
| 20:38.55 | nox- | no i mean with the cable that comes with the z |
| 20:39.19 | totall_6_7 | I did not get the host cable just the slave cable |
| 20:39.31 | nox- | slave cable is enough |
| 20:39.48 | nox- | hmm or is your z too old? |
| 20:40.16 | nox- | maybe the old ones couldnt do that, dunno |
| 20:40.31 | totall_6_7 | if i plug the usb cable into this box, this box sees it as a mass storage device |
| 20:40.40 | totall_6_7 | and opens it up as such |
| 20:40.50 | nox- | you need to tell the z to use it for network |
| 20:41.23 | totall_6_7 | hmmmm now that i will do some research on, and to answer your question i have the3200 |
| 20:41.31 | nox- | same here |
| 20:41.52 | nox- | i dont have pdaXii13 tho, but id be surprised if they left out the network... |
| 20:42.29 | totall_6_7 | there is more networking apps installed than there is on this box (or at least so it seems) |
| 20:43.11 | nox- | i use it with freebsd, driver is cdce(4) here -- USB Communication Device Class Ethernet driver |
| 20:43.14 | totall_6_7 | but this box is hard wired to a hub and connection is nothing more than plugging the cable into the hub |
| 20:43.28 | scottlfa | ipkg in pdaxrom and pdaxii13 |
| 20:43.38 | scottlfa | ipkg install <package> |
| 20:43.45 | nox- | ah no debian |
| 20:43.48 | scottlfa | in debian its apt-get |
| 20:43.54 | nox- | yeah |
| 20:44.16 | totall_6_7 | scottlfa: can you tell apt-get the file name? |
| 20:44.28 | totall_6_7 | apt-get file.deb |
| 20:44.36 | scottlfa | In most Z distro's its ipkg though (Angstrom, Cacko, Sharp, PdaXrom, PdaXii13, OpenZaurus and Pokey) |
| 20:44.42 | scottlfa | in debian yes |
| 20:44.48 | scottlfa | ponder |
| 20:44.50 | scottlfa | no |
| 20:44.54 | nox- | in debian that would be dpkg -i |
| 20:45.02 | scottlfa | for local file installs use dpkg -i |
| 20:45.17 | nox- | but you have to be careful not mixing debs for other releases |
| 20:45.34 | scottlfa | indeed |
| 20:45.55 | totall_6_7 | well this deb for Sword is an ARM release |
| 20:46.04 | scottlfa | sharp based distro's like Cacko and Sharp do not mix well at all with PdaXrom and its kin. |
| 20:46.45 | nox- | whats Sword, a game? |
| 20:46.54 | scottlfa | Angstrom does not mix well with any of them. Etc. Debian packages have to be noarch to work in other distro's. |
| 20:47.01 | scottlfa | Bible reader. |
| 20:47.03 | nox- | debian releases not archs |
| 20:47.07 | nox- | o_O |
| 20:48.11 | nox- | like, debs for sarge usually wont work on etch or lenny |
| 20:48.16 | scottlfa | within debian release, the architecture can complicate any forced install. noarch deb's do not depend on the architecture of the host debian system. |
| 20:48.44 | scottlfa | yeah but i386 isn't friendly too ARM, or ARM to ARMel for example :) |
| 20:48.54 | nox- | well if its a native executable it has to be arm too ofc |
| 20:49.33 | totall_6_7 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/gnomesword |
| 20:49.37 | totall_6_7 | there |
| 20:49.47 | nox- | thats sid too |
| 20:49.50 | scottlfa | I thought so too, but a basic arm app does bad things running on an armel host. its in the compilation of the files I am sure and the libraries that are slightly different. |
| 20:49.59 | totall_6_7 | logic tells me that arm is the choice to make |
| 20:49.59 | scottlfa | unstable - sid |
| 20:50.06 | scottlfa | armel |
| 20:50.33 | nox- | yeah little endian |
| 20:51.29 | scottlfa | cool thing about the Z is it can run either ARM Debian or ARMel Debian. I have been happy with ARMel Debian. |
| 20:56.39 | scottlfa | anyhows ... have fun man, glad you got it running on there :) |
| 20:57.09 | totall_6_7 | It rocks!!!! |
| 20:57.53 | totall_6_7 | i just wonder how to get the screen back whithout having to reset after you use the screen blank applet |
| 20:58.15 | totall_6_7 | maybe when Blue89 comes back he will have an answer for that question |
| 21:00.40 | scottlfa | fn + 1 |
| 21:00.48 | scottlfa | fn + 2 |
| 21:01.37 | totall_6_7 | fn+1 blanks and fn+2 restores? |
| 21:02.08 | scottlfa | fn+1 decreases the brightness and fn+2 increases it (effectively taking it out of blank) |
| 21:03.45 | scottlfa | brb |
| 21:03.46 | totall_6_7 | nope not under pdaXii13 |
| 21:03.57 | totall_6_7 | those combo of keys do nothing |
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| 22:42.49 | scottlfa | sorry :( |
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