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| 01:01.59 | Capn_Fish | Hello? |
| 01:02.26 | punkass | HI! |
| 01:03.44 | Capn_Fish | This place is pretty deserted |
| 01:04.24 | punkass | no it isnt |
| 01:04.55 | punkass | you just have to say something other than "hi" |
| 01:04.56 | Capn_Fish | Ahh... |
| 01:05.09 | punkass | its not a generally chatty channel, you need to bring up an issue related to the zaurus that interests someone here |
| 01:05.35 | Capn_Fish | Thanks. I thoght that it was just empty |
| 01:05.55 | Capn_Fish | What Z/ROM do you have? |
| 01:06.48 | punkass | sl-5500, rom i made myself |
| 01:07.03 | Capn_Fish | sweet. Sharp-based? |
| 01:07.15 | punkass | debian-arm based |
| 01:07.23 | Capn_Fish | Nice. |
| 01:07.49 | Capn_Fish | You can use all of the Debian-ARM packages then? |
| 01:08.08 | punkass | ive had good luck with it so far |
| 01:08.33 | punkass | i dont use X or any GUI though |
| 01:09.05 | Capn_Fish | X is slow I take it? |
| 01:09.15 | punkass | i just dont need it on a pda |
| 01:09.37 | Capn_Fish | I like running "desktop" apps on my Z. |
| 01:10.24 | Capn_Fish | What do you mostly use your Z for? Work? |
| 01:10.53 | Capn_Fish | I personally like to code on the go. |
| 01:12.04 | Capn_Fish | Ah, well. I have to go. cya. |
| 01:12.29 | punkass | i just do what i would normally do on a computer, but away from home |
| 01:21.50 | ds2 | any replaced the OPIE/QT/X with just a VNC client like directvnc? |
| 01:31.32 | punkass | ill have to give directvnc a try |
| 01:31.45 | punkass | that fbvnc made for the Z was popular for a while, never used it though |
| 01:32.09 | ds2 | thought directvnc is the decendant of fbvnc? |
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| 01:41.05 | punkass | ah you are probably right |
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| 04:30.43 | cycle_55 | how are things |
| 04:31.50 | Antikx | hi |
| 04:31.53 | Antikx | life is good |
| 04:31.58 | Antikx | you? |
| 04:31.58 | cycle_55 | good |
| 04:32.04 | Antikx | just making some tea. brb |
| 04:32.04 | cycle_55 | yes good |
| 04:32.10 | cycle_55 | k |
| 04:33.05 | Antikx | I'm baack |
| 04:33.28 | cycle_55 | wb |
| 04:33.31 | Antikx | tx |
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| 04:33.46 | Antikx | anything new with you? |
| 04:33.54 | cycle_55 | i must have made a mistake |
| 04:34.01 | Antikx | hey menaie |
| 04:34.06 | Menaie^^ | hi |
| 04:34.06 | cycle_55 | hi |
| 04:34.26 | Menaie^^ | wow, ppl on here that talk! |
| 04:34.30 | Antikx | :) |
| 04:34.43 | Antikx | I hear it is uncommon |
| 04:34.52 | cycle_55 | yes |
| 04:34.56 | Menaie^^ | yeah |
| 04:35.19 | Menaie^^ | usually when i come here, it is more silent than a morgue |
| 04:35.26 | Antikx | :) |
| 04:35.43 | Antikx | you made a mistake cycle? |
| 04:35.58 | cycle_55 | uploading today |
| 04:36.19 | Antikx | Menaie...what time is it out your way? |
| 04:36.23 | cycle_55 | because the link isn't working now |
| 04:36.55 | Menaie^^ | 2:37pm |
| 04:37.15 | Antikx | cycle...the link to the file works for me. |
| 04:37.25 | cycle_55 | hmmmmm |
| 04:37.32 | Menaie^^ | no wedding gowns to inspect this weekend :) |
| 04:37.37 | Antikx | or is the the html you are talking about |
| 04:37.46 | cycle_55 | html sorry |
| 04:38.05 | cycle_55 | when is the wedding |
| 04:39.03 | Antikx | weddings are fun if no one takes it too too serious and the parents don't make it rough |
| 04:39.14 | Menaie^^ | december |
| 04:39.35 | Menaie^^ | my parents are ok |
| 04:39.35 | cycle_55 | i remember mine wasn't fun |
| 04:39.51 | Menaie^^ | its the future inlaws that are trouble |
| 04:39.57 | Antikx | :) |
| 04:40.09 | Antikx | there's always one side hey? |
| 04:40.16 | cycle_55 | always |
| 04:40.19 | Antikx | cycle... how come? |
| 04:40.23 | Menaie^^ | so far it has cost me more than 35k |
| 04:40.25 | Antikx | parents? |
| 04:40.30 | cycle_55 | wow |
| 04:40.35 | Antikx | yikes! |
| 04:40.45 | cycle_55 | mother in law |
| 04:40.50 | Antikx | I wish I was invited! |
| 04:40.53 | cycle_55 | from hell |
| 04:40.56 | Menaie^^ | those are the worst |
| 04:40.56 | Antikx | just kiddin. |
| 04:41.05 | Menaie^^ | monther in law |
| 04:41.17 | Menaie^^ | monster even |
| 04:41.30 | Menaie^^ | i meant mother |
| 04:41.31 | Antikx | I have a good one so can't relate, but have heard plenty of stories. |
| 04:41.31 | cycle_55 | one never gets rid of mothers in law i'm told |
| 04:41.42 | Antikx | :) |
| 04:42.03 | cycle_55 | you can't divorce them |
| 04:42.12 | Menaie^^ | i need to have several wedding receptions |
| 04:42.53 | Menaie^^ | at least i was able to reduce the locations to only 2 |
| 04:43.16 | Antikx | lots of relatives? |
| 04:43.50 | Menaie^^ | yeah |
| 04:44.00 | Menaie^^ | all over the world as well :( |
| 04:44.14 | Antikx | cool |
| 04:44.22 | Antikx | I had a 75 person wedding |
| 04:44.24 | cycle_55 | that might come in handy |
| 04:44.29 | Antikx | how about you cycle? |
| 04:44.40 | cycle_55 | i can't remember |
| 04:44.49 | Menaie^^ | i was able to convince the ones from germany and singapore to come to sydney |
| 04:44.50 | cycle_55 | it was a blurr |
| 04:44.55 | Antikx | hee hee |
| 04:45.09 | Antikx | nice menaie |
| 04:45.14 | Menaie^^ | 75 is small so they tell me |
| 04:45.19 | Antikx | ya |
| 04:45.25 | Antikx | but it was good |
| 04:45.34 | Antikx | we had a Chinadian wedding |
| 04:45.35 | Menaie^^ | small is good |
| 04:45.43 | Antikx | so had to do most of the planning |
| 04:45.51 | Antikx | as no one know what to do but us. :) |
| 04:47.33 | Menaie^^ | great, no surprises |
| 04:47.37 | cycle_55 | are your relatives from germany or your future wife's Menaie? |
| 04:47.48 | Menaie^^ | mine |
| 04:48.28 | cycle_55 | i have some in Gottingen |
| 04:48.35 | Antikx | is your wife to be from AU then? if you don't mind me asking |
| 04:49.00 | Menaie^^ | we both live in sydney |
| 04:49.32 | Menaie^^ | but she grew up in melbourne and all her friends are there |
| 04:49.53 | Menaie^^ | bit difficult to make them all fly over |
| 04:50.07 | Antikx | must be faily different faimiles then (yours and hers)? |
| 04:50.30 | Menaie^^ | most her family is in hongkong |
| 04:50.56 | Antikx | you sure have a global life, hey? |
| 04:51.11 | Menaie^^ | yep |
| 04:51.11 | Antikx | neat |
| 04:51.20 | Menaie^^ | i been around |
| 04:51.28 | Antikx | it's good to be traveled |
| 04:51.58 | cycle_55 | i haven't been many places |
| 04:52.05 | Antikx | I'll take a look at the HTML link right now, cycle |
| 04:52.15 | cycle_55 | no rush |
| 04:52.39 | cycle_55 | just wanted to let you know i messed it up |
| 04:53.22 | Menaie^^ | i am currently generating pdaXii13 akita |
| 04:53.54 | Antikx | I think you might have put it in: |
| 04:54.19 | Antikx | this path: /files/oesfarchive/recent/recent |
| 04:54.29 | Antikx | with one extra recent folder |
| 04:54.38 | cycle_55 | ooops |
| 04:54.51 | cycle_55 | i'll change that |
| 04:55.21 | cycle_55 | Menaie you mention web cams on your site briefly |
| 04:55.40 | cycle_55 | but i can't find much info |
| 04:56.22 | Menaie^^ | yeah, never got em working properly |
| 04:56.30 | cycle_55 | i see |
| 04:56.47 | Antikx | I found the perfect webcam for the Zaurus |
| 04:56.53 | Antikx | has clip and light and is small |
| 04:56.58 | Menaie^^ | does it work? |
| 04:57.02 | Antikx | but no open souce drivers |
| 04:57.04 | Antikx | :( |
| 04:57.21 | Menaie^^ | that's the problem with these webcams |
| 04:57.36 | Antikx | I may email them |
| 04:57.36 | Menaie^^ | too many diff models using all kinds of obscure drivers |
| 04:57.42 | Antikx | ya |
| 04:58.09 | Menaie^^ | pdaXrom has webcam drivers build in |
| 04:58.19 | Antikx | what app to use though? |
| 04:58.24 | Menaie^^ | but I am yet to find one that actually works with tme |
| 04:58.37 | Menaie^^ | i got several apps |
| 04:58.45 | Menaie^^ | jut no compatible webcam |
| 04:59.14 | Antikx | you mentioned a new Akita release? |
| 04:59.27 | Menaie^^ | yeah |
| 04:59.30 | Antikx | 5.3.x? |
| 04:59.38 | Menaie^^ | just finished building |
| 04:59.43 | Menaie^^ | 5.4.1 |
| 05:00.00 | Antikx | sorry I haven't been keeping up to date. |
| 05:00.05 | Antikx | is all 4.1 with icewm? |
| 05:00.16 | Menaie^^ | nope |
| 05:00.28 | Menaie^^ | you need to install icewm manually |
| 05:00.33 | Antikx | ok |
| 05:00.57 | Antikx | with my mom down for 1.5 weeks I got behind on my Zaurus news. :) |
| 05:01.01 | Menaie^^ | actually, icewm would add about 1.5mb |
| 05:01.18 | Menaie^^ | maybe i shuld add it... |
| 05:01.46 | ds2 | is that rom for the SL5500? |
| 05:01.55 | Menaie^^ | nah, you can ipkg install icewm yourself ::) |
| 05:02.29 | Menaie^^ | nope, 5500 are too ancient |
| 05:02.49 | Menaie^^ | dun have one |
| 05:02.51 | Antikx | maybe add it to your 5.5.X release. :) |
| 05:03.34 | Antikx | cycle...do you have skype on your K? |
| 05:03.41 | cycle_55 | yes |
| 05:03.49 | Menaie^^ | well, Spitz will have icewm |
| 05:04.06 | Menaie^^ | its just Akita wont by default |
| 05:04.10 | Antikx | ok |
| 05:04.18 | cycle_55 | i've been wanting to try your rom Menaie |
| 05:04.27 | Antikx | cycle can you do a test call to: tyrannozaurus |
| 05:05.05 | cycle_55 | but i really need two Z's |
| 05:05.28 | cycle_55 | one for work and one to test with |
| 05:05.35 | Antikx | menaie... you want to keep Akita distro light because it's all flashed based, hey? |
| 05:05.47 | Menaie^^ | yep |
| 05:06.02 | cycle_55 | i'll see if i can Antikx |
| 05:07.07 | Antikx | thanks for all your work on pdaXii13 |
| 05:07.34 | Antikx | between pdaXii13 and the new pdaXrom and Angstrom it's really started to pick up again |
| 05:07.37 | Menaie^^ | doh, failed to connect to |
| 05:07.48 | Menaie^^ | i should have started samba :) |
| 05:10.23 | Menaie^^ | pdaXrom is progressing very slowly |
| 05:10.37 | Menaie^^ | not as many devs as in angstrom |
| 05:11.15 | Antikx | ya. |
| 05:11.15 | Antikx | have you started working on it yet? |
| 05:11.16 | Menaie^^ | nope |
| 05:11.25 | Menaie^^ | no write access to svn |
| 05:11.28 | Antikx | mostly InsearchOf, hey? |
| 05:11.48 | Antikx | working on pdaxrom that is |
| 05:12.04 | Menaie^^ | yeah, he's the only one with write access |
| 05:12.29 | Menaie^^ | beside sashz who has disappeared |
| 05:13.00 | Antikx | how about laze? |
| 05:13.42 | Menaie^^ | as far as i can tell, he only wrote the python admin tools |
| 05:13.59 | cycle_55 | am i calling you on a regular phone Antikx? |
| 05:14.02 | Menaie^^ | and nothing from him inyonks |
| 05:14.26 | Antikx | cycle... no it's just the software |
| 05:14.58 | Antikx | inyonks? don't know what that means, sorry |
| 05:15.07 | Menaie^^ | for ages |
| 05:15.11 | Antikx | :) |
| 05:15.23 | Antikx | I'll have to use that one |
| 05:15.42 | Menaie^^ | must be an australian slang |
| 05:15.59 | Menaie^^ | i get confused sometimes |
| 05:16.02 | cycle_55 | i guess i need to buy some time |
| 05:16.06 | Menaie^^ | too many languages... |
| 05:16.23 | Antikx | really? |
| 05:16.31 | Antikx | I thought skype was free? |
| 05:16.43 | Antikx | Am I on crack? |
| 05:16.54 | cycle_55 | well i don't know |
| 05:17.02 | Menaie^^ | skype is free for voip only |
| 05:17.14 | cycle_55 | oh here we go |
| 05:17.30 | Menaie^^ | if you dial phone, they need to charge |
| 05:17.35 | cycle_55 | my firewall was making a fuss |
| 05:17.39 | Antikx | ah |
| 05:17.41 | Menaie^^ | cause phone company charges them |
| 05:17.47 | Antikx | yes |
| 05:18.12 | Menaie^^ | i hate phone companies |
| 05:18.27 | Antikx | :) |
| 05:18.41 | Antikx | they must be trying hard to stay alive |
| 05:18.54 | Menaie^^ | i have to go to melbourne for a month because of phone company |
| 05:19.03 | cycle_55 | i hame no mike |
| 05:19.10 | cycle_55 | yes i hear you |
| 05:20.25 | Menaie^^ | damn, one more hour till pdaXii13 finishes uploading |
| 05:22.14 | Antikx | worked pretty well. |
| 05:22.21 | Antikx | thanks cycle |
| 05:22.35 | cycle_55 | np |
| 05:23.31 | Antikx | now you know you have a mic on your K. :) |
| 05:23.31 | cycle_55 | i'll see you guys later |
| 05:23.31 | cycle_55 | yes |
| 05:23.31 | Antikx | later |
| 05:23.38 | Antikx | I'm gonna finish catching up on OESF news then head to bed |
| 05:23.42 | Antikx | nice chatting guys |
| 05:23.48 | cycle_55 | good talking |
| 05:23.51 | cycle_55 | thanks |
| 05:23.52 | Antikx | nite |
| 05:23.53 | Menaie^^ | yeah bye |
| 05:23.58 | cycle_55 | goodnight |
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| 19:54.23 | gamer_s | Regarding using a USB audio input output device, can I use just anyone of them? |
| 20:25.30 | frostschutz | why usb |
| 20:26.06 | gamer_s | Because the Zaurus C1000 doesn't have a built-in microphone or microphone port. |
| 20:26.27 | frostschutz | but it does |
| 20:26.27 | gamer_s | !? |
| 20:26.29 | gamer_s | where? |
| 20:26.30 | frostschutz | the speaker port is also a microphone port |
| 20:26.30 | frostschutz | you can use a mono headset with it |
| 20:26.30 | gamer_s | Really!? |
| 20:26.32 | gamer_s | well that's clever |
| 20:26.32 | gamer_s | Thanks for the info! |
| 20:26.40 | frostschutz | not sure which headset model actually work with it though... |
| 20:26.59 | gamer_s | One ore thing, how do you install an ipkg type program through the console? |
| 20:27.32 | frostschutz | the command is ipkg, I dunno the exact options right now |
| 20:27.40 | gamer_s | ah ok |
| 20:27.51 | frostschutz | ipkg install file.ipkg or ipkg -I file.ipkg or something like that |
| 20:28.02 | frostschutz | there should be docs or a man page for it around somewhere |
| 20:29.13 | gamer_s | I'm trying to get GAIM installed. All of the files installed successfully except for the last one, the actual primary program file. |
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| 20:29.55 | frostschutz | I don't use gaim so I can't help you there, sorry |
| 20:30.14 | gamer_s | Oh well, thought I'd ask. |
| 20:30.57 | gamer_s | Aside from voice recording, do you know of anything else the microphone can be used for with the Zaurus? |
| 20:31.15 | frostschutz | uh |
| 20:31.28 | frostschutz | you can record anything you want with it ... can't vouch for the quality though |
| 20:31.37 | frostschutz | there is a semi official zaurus mic but it's not very good |
| 20:31.55 | frostschutz | and it's extremely expensive, but you can use any other mic |
| 20:32.44 | frostschutz | the problem is the headset, you need to find one that has a stereo connector but actually uses one channel for the mic and the other for the speakers... and the correct ones at that... |
| 20:33.21 | frostschutz | I've read in the forums about ppl who've done this but I haven't actually a clue which model of headset they were using, or what software to go with it |
| 20:35.52 | frostschutz | gamer_s: http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__zmicro__Microphon_fuer_Zaurus692.htm this is the zaurus mic in a local shop ... |
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