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| 11:19.36 | alan | !list |
| 11:19.52 | alan | (just for testing putpose) |
| 11:19.58 | alan | purpose* |
| 11:29.01 | alan | is there any lyx port to zaurus? |
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| 17:52.22 | DirtyD | hello |
| 17:53.07 | DirtyD | I'm looking to create some java applications for Zaurus, I'm a little confused about what tools I need in order to do the development. |
| 17:53.15 | DirtyD | Java applications |
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| 18:25.13 | DirtyD | Hi |
| 18:36.21 | DirtyD | you idlers |
| 18:36.39 | nT | hello, anyone has purchuased the zaurus from conics.net or geekstuff4u to Europe (spain)?? |
| 18:38.36 | raduga | conics has reputedly not been responding to email lately. |
| 18:38.55 | raduga | they have one english-speaking sales guy, and he apparently is out of the office. |
| 18:39.27 | DirtyD | I love my zaurus, but I want it to do more. |
| 18:39.40 | raduga | dirtyd: so, do more with it. |
| 18:39.52 | DirtyD | raduga: I'm trying to figure out how to write java apps for it.. |
| 18:40.11 | DirtyD | I'm a bit confused about the implementation of the JVM that is installed on it. |
| 18:41.48 | raduga | the jeode one? |
| 18:41.52 | DirtyD | Yeah |
| 18:41.57 | raduga | some (limited) info on here: |
| 18:41.58 | raduga | http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/personal/articles/ztutorial/ |
| 18:43.08 | DirtyD | raduga: I've been through that tutorial a few times. I guess I'm confused on what tools I need to equip myself with. I've developed swing applications and such using J2SE.. Would I be using the same J2SE compiler for building the jeode apps? |
| 18:43.47 | DirtyD | There is talk of PersonalJava and Personal Profile |
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| 18:50.15 | seva | does anyone know japanese? http://sevatech.com/pics/2005.03.03/img_0500.jpg |
| 19:02.50 | nT | raduga, yes, they have not answered my mail ... where are you from? |
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| 19:12.41 | SkyCow | hi, has anyone tried the openoffice debian package yet? |
| 19:13.26 | SkyCow | i dont know how to de-deb the packages :P too n00b |
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| 19:24.38 | raduga | skycow: |
| 19:24.51 | raduga | hm. do you have a desktop linux system? |
| 19:25.30 | raduga | OO is likely to be too big, bloated, and slow to be much useful |
| 19:25.42 | raduga | it has a larger footprint than zaurii are wont to have |
| 19:26.13 | raduga | that said, I believe people have built and run it under OZ |
| 19:26.50 | SkyCow | raduga on www.oesf.org a list of openoffice arm pkgs were posted |
| 19:27.15 | SkyCow | im using a sl-c3000 |
| 19:28.07 | SkyCow | do oyu think its similar to OZ? |
| 19:29.18 | SkyCow | at leat the power point part would be useful :) |
| 19:33.46 | SkyCow | well.....here goes... |
| 19:36.03 | SkyCow | ash-2.05# dpkg -i openoffice.org-bin_1.1.3-1.2pre_arm.deb (Reading database ... xxxxx files and directories installed.) Segmentation fault bash-2.05# |
| 19:36.17 | SkyCow | that was quick.... |
| 19:41.20 | SkyCow | failure unpleasant... |
| 20:12.41 | raduga | sure. |
| 20:12.55 | raduga | skycow: are you running dpkg -i on the zaurus? |
| 20:14.14 | raduga | OZ is OpenZaurus; a port of the Open Embedded system to Zaurus; presently supporting the 5x00, 6000, and (limited) C7x0 zauruses. No support for C3000 yet. |
| 20:14.33 | raduga | OZ is a different base OS than what you have now, on the C3000, which is the "Sharp ROM" |
| 20:14.54 | raduga | Sharp is QT-only, which could be a problem because Open Office is X |
| 20:15.33 | raduga | in order to use OO at all, you'll need an X based rom. Either OZ or pdaXrom; neither of which are supported on the C3000 yet. |
| 20:17.59 | ViV | i've seen photos of 3000 with X running on it |
| 20:18.17 | ViV | not screenshots, but photos |
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| 20:21.37 | raduga | ViV: there is someone in here trying to port pdaXrom to 3000 |
| 20:22.10 | raduga | and also there is X/QT which would very likely be too sluggish to be very useful. |
| 20:22.13 | raduga | I may be wrong. |
| 20:22.32 | raduga | X/QT is fine for some things, but OpenOffice is already huge and bloated |
| 20:24.33 | subdue | oo is a monster |
| 20:24.40 | ViV | it was fullscreen xfce enviroment, i don't think x/qt is able to run this |
| 20:24.47 | subdue | not something I'd want to use on a pda |
| 20:25.22 | subdue | monster things tend to chew up ram and be slow as molasses |
| 20:32.49 | raduga | ViV: well. maybe some weird custom-spun rom? |
| 20:33.34 | ViV | ask the photographer |
| 20:46.26 | SkyWriter | raduga: thanks for info on OO. i wish for a X11 platform at first, but now have too much time invested in current configuration :) |
| 20:47.56 | subdue | I'd be more interested in a apps that are already on the Z, but missing certain functions that we can ask to add |
| 20:48.32 | subdue | there's a few other editors that hold promise |
| 20:49.32 | subdue | (aside from hancom) |
| 20:49.50 | subdue | I think it was called textmaker |
| 21:09.04 | raduga | ViV: ask you? |
| 21:09.46 | raduga | ViV: you're the only one who has yet made reference to the photograph, so I don't as yet see any way that any one other than you would be in a position to ask the photographer, but maybe I'm psychic (but don't know it) |
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| 21:40.16 | phallacy | yo |
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