| 17:23.21 | *** join/#zaurus ibot (ibot@c-24-1-99-18.client.comcast.net) |
| 17:23.21 | *** topic/#zaurus is Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) |
| 17:23.21 | *** mode/#zaurus [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 17:23.23 | absentia | what is sylphaed?> |
| 17:23.31 | Foxdie | email client |
| 17:23.33 | Foxdie | quite good actually |
| 17:23.57 | Foxdie | ibot kill George- |
| 17:24.00 | | ACTION slits George-'s throat |
| 17:24.00 | treke | try digging up the patches from gmate |
| 17:24.11 | treke | they did some work on fitting it on a pda screen for the yopy |
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| 17:26.41 | Foxdie | OMG I DID IT |
| 17:26.45 | Foxdie | HUZZAH! |
| 17:26.55 | Foxdie | Scripts are now complete ^_^ |
| 17:27.05 | George- | botty: kill ibot |
| 17:27.09 | George- | botty: beat up ibot |
| 17:27.15 | George- | botty pester ibot |
| 17:27.15 | botty | ibot: Are we there yet...? Are we there yet...? Are we there yet...? |
| 17:27.17 | | botty: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 17:27.24 | George- | *GASP* |
| 17:27.28 | Foxdie | ibot kill botty |
| 17:27.31 | | ACTION slits botty's throat |
| 17:27.31 | Foxdie | botty kill ibot |
| 17:27.38 | Foxdie | Yay! it's a draw! |
| 17:27.48 | George- | botty eat ibot |
| 17:27.58 | George- | ibot eat Foxdie |
| 17:28.01 | | ACTION eats Foxdie and falls over dead |
| 17:28.03 | Foxdie | VOOOOOOOORE |
| 17:28.20 | George- | GASP |
| 17:28.23 | Foxdie | :D |
| 17:28.25 | George- | ibot kill Foxdie |
| 17:28.28 | | ACTION slits Foxdie's throat |
| 17:28.28 | Foxdie | just kidding :) |
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| 17:28.30 | George- | botty beat up foxdie |
| 17:28.33 | George- | botty die |
| 17:28.37 | George- | botty botsnack |
| 17:28.37 | botty | thanks, George- |
| 17:28.40 | sig | can someone tell me a zaurus 3.x feed url? |
| 17:28.40 | George- | ibot botsnack |
| 17:28.40 | | George-: aw, gee |
| 17:28.42 | George- | botty botsnack |
| 17:28.42 | botty | aw, gee, George- |
| 17:28.45 | George- | ibot botsnack |
| 17:28.45 | | George-: :) |
| 17:28.49 | George- | botty botsnack |
| 17:28.49 | botty | George-: :) |
| 17:28.52 | George- | ibot botsnack |
| 17:28.52 | | aw, gee, George- |
| 17:28.54 | Foxdie | stop feeding him, he'll pop! |
| 17:28.56 | George- | botty botsnack |
| 17:28.56 | botty | :), George- |
| 17:28.58 | George- | ibot botsnack |
| 17:28.58 | | George-: aw, gee |
| 17:29.00 | George- | botty botsnack |
| 17:29.00 | botty | George-: thanks |
| 17:29.03 | Foxdie | ibot kick George- |
| 17:29.06 | | bugger off sod! |
| 17:29.06 | George- | ibot botsnack |
| 17:29.06 | | George-: aw, gee |
| 17:29.09 | sig | anyone? |
| 17:29.10 | George- | botty kick Foxdie |
| 17:29.23 | Foxdie | sig: sorry you've joined at a lame moment |
| 17:29.27 | George- | botty kill Foxdie |
| 17:29.31 | George- | botty lart Foxdie |
| 17:29.32 | Foxdie | please feel free to kick the crap out of George- |
| 17:29.35 | George- | botty lart foxdie |
| 17:29.38 | George- | ibot lart Foxdie |
| 17:29.41 | George- | botty lart Foxdie |
| 17:29.47 | George- | botty: lart Foxdie |
| 17:29.50 | George- | ibot lart Foxdie |
| 17:29.51 | W8TVI | ibot kick George- |
| 17:29.54 | | bugger off sod! |
| 17:29.59 | sig | Foxdie: I see that |
| 17:29.59 | George- | ibot momsex foxdie |
| 17:30.03 | | ACTION has sex with foxdie's mom |
| 17:30.11 | sig | George-: stop being a lame ass |
| 17:30.16 | George- | ibot lart sig |
| 17:30.19 | George- | botty lart sig |
| 17:30.24 | George- | botty kill sig |
| 17:30.25 | Foxdie | My mom doesn't need your bots secks, my stepdad was doing to her only yesterday! |
| 17:30.33 | Foxdie | and for a woman that's nearly 50 that's quite an achievement! |
| 17:30.44 | George- | you sick pervert |
| 17:30.53 | George- | ibot eat sig |
| 17:30.56 | | ACTION eats sig and falls over dead |
| 17:30.56 | Foxdie | I am not sick, the bitch woke me up :( |
| 17:30.57 | George- | ibot beat up sig |
| 17:30.59 | | George-: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 17:30.59 | mickeyl | sig: 3.x feed? well... let's see... do you mean 3.2 or 3.3.5 or 3.3.6-pre1? do you mean gcc2 or gcc3? do you mean a c7x0, a 5500 or maybe a 5600? hmm |
| 17:31.01 | George- | Foxdie: lies! |
| 17:31.05 | Foxdie | she did! |
| 17:31.08 | George- | rubbish |
| 17:31.22 | Foxdie | I was dreaming of winning a formula one race when I was woken up by this thudding against the wall |
| 17:31.33 | Foxdie | I just pulled my duvet over my head and thought "bastards" |
| 17:31.39 | George- | absolute balderdash |
| 17:31.49 | Foxdie | I hope to god I move out on my 21st birthday in 4 months |
| 17:31.55 | sig | mickeyl: SL-5500 ROM 3.10 |
| 17:32.13 | Foxdie | sig: sorry you've had to see all this, normally we are helpful. |
| 17:32.17 | sig | mickeyl: this is #zaurus 3.2 and 3.3.5 are for openzaurus |
| 17:32.26 | Foxdie | #openzaurus |
| 17:32.28 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:32.32 | mickeyl | k, no idea. |
| 17:32.32 | Foxdie | oh |
| 17:32.38 | Foxdie | re blitzrage |
| 17:32.58 | blitzrage | huh ? |
| 17:33.23 | sig | no one knows a feed for a zaurus? |
| 17:33.41 | George- | Foxdie: we are NEVER HELPFUL!!! |
| 17:33.43 | George- | botty beat up Foxdie |
| 17:33.46 | mickeyl | noone of us is an oracle ... you even didn't know what application you are interested in... |
| 17:33.49 | George- | botty kill Foxdie |
| 17:33.52 | mickeyl | s/know/tell |
| 17:33.53 | George- | :D |
| 17:34.49 | Foxdie | okay george give it a rest now. |
| 17:35.03 | George- | ~lart Foxdie |
| 17:35.10 | George- | ~kill Foxdie |
| 17:35.18 | | ACTION slits Foxdie's throat |
| 17:35.18 | chouimat | Never feel remorse for what you have thought about your wife; she has thought much worse things about you. |
| 17:35.18 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.19 | absentia | what kind of feed |
| 17:35.23 | absentia | see www.spy.org/zaurus/zinfo.html |
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| 17:37.36 | Foxdie | Guys would binding keys to simulate F1 to F10 be useful in the X11 ROM? |
| 17:37.40 | sig | absentia: those are feeds for Opie |
| 17:37.46 | sig | I am using the latest Sharp ROM |
| 17:37.55 | sig | and am looking for a Sharp ROM feed |
| 17:38.16 | George- | should I suspend botty for being a naughty bot? |
| 17:38.41 | mickeyl | sig: killefiz.de/zaurus |
| 17:38.48 | absentia | sig: ok, whatever. |
| 17:39.01 | sig | absentia: lasat time I chaecked this was #zaurus |
| 17:39.08 | sig | not #openzaurus |
| 17:39.15 | absentia | sig: I'm not sure I follow your statement. |
| 17:39.26 | absentia | the page links to feeds... some of which might have opie, some of which may not. |
| 17:39.29 | sig | Your giving me openzaurus (Opie) feeds |
| 17:39.51 | mickeyl | well... sig, there is no such thing as "a SharpROM feed". noone collects all the software available and puts into a feed. Check killefiz.de/zaurus - there are URLs to individual locations. |
| 17:40.34 | sig | I never said I was looking for a Sharp ROM feed |
| 17:40.44 | sig | I'm looking for packages that are built for Sharp ROM |
| 17:40.47 | mickeyl | lol |
| 17:40.48 | mickeyl | <sig> and am looking for a Sharp ROM feed |
| 17:40.48 | sig | anyways |
| 17:41.06 | mickeyl | i gave you the URL. visit that site. |
| 17:41.11 | sig | I've been there |
| 17:41.15 | sig | thanks though |
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| 17:49.30 | George- | ibot slashdot |
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| 17:52.35 | sig | the new 3.10 ROM doesn't see my lan card |
| 17:52.42 | sig | well it see's it but it isn't working |
| 17:52.52 | sig | even after I configure it for Lan tcp/ip |
| 17:52.58 | sig | and rebooted it |
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| 17:59.00 | George- | ibot: moo |
| 17:59.01 | | i haven't a clue, George- |
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| 18:03.11 | Foxdie | Disconnect you there? |
| 18:03.14 | Foxdie | and absentia? |
| 18:03.19 | Foxdie | Would binding keys to simulate F1 to F10 be useful in the X11 ROM? |
| 18:07.43 | absentia | hey |
| 18:07.47 | absentia | yes, of course. |
| 18:08.11 | Foxdie | should I bother with F11 and F12? |
| 18:08.25 | treke | good question |
| 18:10.18 | absentia | no |
| 18:10.29 | absentia | although I think opera uses it |
| 18:10.31 | absentia | f11 |
| 18:13.02 | Foxdie | so should I bother? |
| 18:19.19 | Foxdie | well? |
| 18:19.21 | Foxdie | I need to know |
| 18:21.19 | absentia | url ? |
| 18:21.21 | absentia | what's up ? |
| 18:21.26 | treke | http://scummvm.sf.net |
| 18:21.41 | treke | someones idea of a cruel joke :) |
| 18:23.05 | absentia | I can't get the page to load |
| 18:23.37 | treke | the wrote a three of paragraph news post with the first two paragraphs and headline saying the project is dead |
| 18:23.45 | treke | and then they say just kidding in the third :) |
| 18:25.45 | absentia | heheh |
| 18:29.50 | Foxdie | hehe |
| 18:30.03 | Foxdie | so absentia you gonna help out and tell me whether to include F11 and F12 in the keylist? |
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| 18:43.14 | absentia | just went to get lunch |
| 18:43.17 | Disconnect | Foxdie: what are you doing, specifically? if its a picker-app of some sort, allow binding to all of the X-defined keys.. |
| 18:43.19 | absentia | well, we have 1 through 0 |
| 18:43.21 | absentia | for 1 through 10 |
| 18:43.33 | absentia | are there more keys to the right of 0 that we could make 11 and 12? |
| 18:43.37 | absentia | if so, then yes... do it |
| 18:43.37 | Foxdie | I was thinking of mapping <-BS to F11 and P to F12 |
| 18:43.54 | absentia | I need to find the thread with the pic of the keyboard. |
| 18:44.42 | absentia | yum yum |
| 18:44.49 | absentia | beff'n'broccoli is now $13.05 |
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| 18:50.38 | Foxdie | er absentia |
| 18:50.43 | absentia | ya? |
| 18:50.45 | Foxdie | I have a pic of the keyboard on my site |
| 18:50.49 | Foxdie | http://foxdie.timduru.org/zaurus/ |
| 18:50.55 | absentia | you made the fuzzy pics? |
| 18:50.56 | Foxdie | it may be in the images subfolder though |
| 18:51.07 | Foxdie | yeah but there's a clear keyboard shot in there |
| 18:53.03 | absentia | argh |
| 18:53.05 | absentia | which one isn't fuzzy? |
| 18:53.48 | absentia | which number |
| 18:53.51 | absentia | I've clicked on 8 so far. |
| 18:54.37 | absentia | yes, bs for 11 and p for 12 |
| 18:54.40 | absentia | good idea |
| 18:55.03 | Foxdie | I hope that the xkeymouse can simulate it properly |
| 18:55.14 | Foxdie | in an example file it says it's not supported |
| 18:55.18 | Foxdie | but I'm hoping otherwise |
| 18:55.40 | absentia | ya, using this thing is turning into like playing a fighting game on a ps/gamecube/dreamcast |
| 18:55.47 | Disconnect | lol |
| 18:56.12 | absentia | left, left, back-up-diagonal, forward-down-diagonal, left-button, right, right button, left, etc. |
| 18:57.16 | Foxdie | now to test it |
| 18:57.23 | Foxdie | what app responds well to F key presses? |
| 19:04.12 | absentia | not sure |
| 19:04.13 | absentia | mc ? |
| 19:04.17 | absentia | (I've never used mc) |
| 19:04.24 | Foxdie | SciTE does |
| 19:04.27 | absentia | ah |
| 19:04.32 | Foxdie | but alas it doesn't work in the xkeymouse |
| 19:04.38 | Foxdie | I'm going to risk it in the corgi.xmodmap |
| 19:05.06 | absentia | ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L |
| 19:05.13 | absentia | that's what I have in my ~/.xmodmaprc |
| 19:05.17 | absentia | (plus the codes to do it) |
| 19:05.33 | absentia | can't stand pc keyboards with caps where control should be |
| 19:12.10 | blitzrage | haha |
| 19:18.25 | Foxdie | bah |
| 19:18.33 | Foxdie | offroadgeek's pestering me to release :) |
| 19:19.12 | absentia | take yer time |
| 19:19.37 | Foxdie | I just wanna make sure it's perfect so I don't have people complaining ;( |
| 19:20.01 | mickeyl | people'll always complain |
| 19:20.03 | mickeyl | :D |
| 19:22.31 | mickeyl | absentia: you should work in QA management then for a company paying you big bucks |
| 19:25.04 | absentia | I thought 'bout it. |
| 19:25.13 | Foxdie | okay that didn't work |
| 19:25.22 | absentia | my opera is getting to the point where I crash it on the first url I go to |
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| 19:31.18 | absentia | ah, nice... |
| 19:31.34 | absentia | sushi place I order from is sending me free sushi (for 3 ) ... tomorrow and wednesday... |
| 19:31.37 | absentia | and a little xmas gift. |
| 19:31.55 | absentia | I knew ordering lunch for everyone on my card for a while would make a difference. |
| 19:31.56 | absentia | :-> |
| 19:32.15 | Foxdie | you earned it then :) |
| 19:32.19 | Foxdie | they are just rewarding good customers |
| 19:33.10 | absentia | ya. |
| 19:33.37 | absentia | we normally put in orders for $100 - $130 of sushi... once a week or so... or evrey other week. |
| 19:34.07 | absentia | www.koodosushi.com .... some of the best. |
| 19:34.45 | absentia | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=3767#3767 |
| 19:35.51 | absentia | looks like it almost doubles the speed of the unit. |
| 19:37.11 | treke | on a c700? |
| 19:37.42 | treke | that would be expected since it disables the cache work around |
| 19:38.24 | absentia | 5600 |
| 19:38.31 | absentia | did you look at the url ? |
| 19:38.33 | treke | that would also be expected |
| 19:38.39 | treke | yes |
| 19:38.43 | absentia | 5600 isn't pxa255? |
| 19:39.00 | treke | nope |
| 19:39.02 | treke | it's pxa250 |
| 19:39.08 | Foxdie | I wonder if the C series can be made to be any faster, although the X11 ROM is alright in terms of speed it could be a little faster |
| 19:40.06 | absentia | ah, but I see a dhry benckmark, finally |
| 19:40.10 | absentia | so I can compare my beasts. |
| 19:40.25 | absentia | ok |
| 19:40.32 | treke | absentia: Without the workaround on, the 250 and 255 should perform similarly. |
| 19:40.34 | absentia | what's the diff between 5500 and 5600? |
| 19:40.37 | absentia | 5600 just has 64mb ram ? |
| 19:40.39 | absentia | nothting else ? |
| 19:40.45 | treke | 5600 has 32mb of ram |
| 19:40.47 | absentia | I need to make a page of specs for each model |
| 19:40.48 | treke | and 64mv of flash |
| 19:40.51 | absentia | damn |
| 19:40.56 | absentia | the 5600 = 5500 |
| 19:41.00 | treke | no |
| 19:41.05 | treke | the 5500 has 64MB of ram |
| 19:41.09 | treke | and 16mb of flash |
| 19:41.10 | absentia | screen the same, ram the same, cpu the same |
| 19:41.26 | treke | and they use different cpus |
| 19:41.34 | absentia | 5500 has more ram? interesting. although that 16mb flash is laughable. |
| 19:41.46 | absentia | strongarm in the 5500 ? |
| 19:41.47 | absentia | ok. |
| 19:42.04 | treke | 32 would have been much nicer :) |
| 19:42.22 | treke | but frankly, flash space is more or less a non issue |
| 19:42.46 | absentia | ya |
| 19:42.53 | absentia | just need enough to boot up and go from sd/cf |
| 19:43.08 | absentia | ok, do you have a url for pages with specs of each unit -- other than the pages at sharp? looking for a page with a listing of all the beasts? |
| 19:43.21 | treke | nope |
| 19:43.28 | treke | I can tell you the specs though :) |
| 19:44.19 | absentia | ok |
| 19:44.19 | absentia | let me open page |
| 19:44.49 | absentia | shoot |
| 19:45.06 | absentia | A300, 5000/D, 5500, 5600, c700, c750, c760, c860, 6000 |
| 19:45.12 | treke | 5000d |
| 19:45.59 | treke | 32MB ram, 16MB flash, 950MAH batter, sa1100 206mhz. |
| 19:46.16 | treke | no speaker or mic |
| 19:47.02 | treke | 5500 64MB ram, 16mb flash, 950mah battery, sa1100 206mhz. no speaker or mic. both the 5500 and 5000d have the 3.5 inch 320x240 screen |
| 19:47.10 | treke | and are collectivly known as collie |
| 19:48.59 | treke | 5600 is a pxa250, with a 320x240 3.5 inch screen. pxa250 400mhz cpu, 32MB ram, 64MB of flash. 1800mah battery, it has a speaker and mic |
| 19:49.08 | treke | the 5600 is the same as the B500 and is the poodle |
| 19:50.03 | treke | the C700 is a pxa250 with 32MB of ram, 64MB of flash, a speaker, no mic, and a 3.5 inch 640x480 screen. It has a 950mah battery. |
| 19:50.41 | treke | the C750 is a pxa255 with 64MB of ram, 64MB of flash, a speaker, no mic, a 3.5 inch 640x480 screen and a 950mah battery. |
| 19:51.08 | treke | the c760 is a pxa255 with 64MB of ram, 128mb of flash, a speaker, no mic, and a 3.5inch 640x480 screen. it has an 1800mah battery. |
| 19:51.15 | treke | the c860 is identical to the c760 |
| 19:51.21 | treke | only one I'm fuzzy on the the a300 |
| 19:51.25 | absentia | ok |
| 19:51.31 | absentia | no name for a300 or 860 ? |
| 19:51.53 | treke | it was a tiny little device with a 200mhz pxa210 and 64mb of ram and a 320x240 screen |
| 19:52.01 | treke | 860 is boxer |
| 19:52.05 | treke | a300 i don't know |
| 19:52.22 | treke | theother big a300 difference is that it didnt have a built in CF slot |
| 19:52.32 | treke | just a sleeve you could attach to it for CF |
| 19:52.35 | Disconnect | http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/sharp-slc7xx.html has 750/760 comparison tables |
| 19:52.51 | absentia | <br> <b><i>boxer</i></b> = c860. Same as 760 (software only upgrade) |
| 19:52.54 | absentia | correct? |
| 19:52.55 | treke | http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:rjOqrVeNbUAJ:sharp-world.com/corporate/news/020624.html+zaurus+a300&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 19:52.58 | treke | absentia: yup |
| 19:54.04 | Disconnect | didn't the 860 get a reflective screen? |
| 19:54.15 | treke | not that I've heard of |
| 19:54.20 | treke | the 6000 did |
| 19:54.26 | Foxdie | the 760 is husky, huskys are cute ^_^ |
| 19:54.47 | treke | a300 and the 6000 are the only ones I've not seen a codename for |
| 19:54.56 | Foxdie | the 860 is identical to the 760 except for one or two software updates |
| 19:54.57 | treke | a300 doesnt even have one in the kernel source, oddly enough |
| 19:55.07 | absentia | I'm working on the top of www.spy.org/zaurus/zinfo.html |
| 19:55.22 | absentia | ya, I meant 6000, not 860. |
| 19:55.32 | absentia | I'm just debating if I should put that info in a table |
| 19:59.44 | absentia | which one[s] have the "transreflexive" screens? |
| 19:59.49 | absentia | my 5600 is dim in the sun just like the 700 |
| 20:03.48 | absentia | what are the specs for the 6000 ? |
| 20:04.00 | absentia | what about CF/SD slots for each? etc. |
| 20:04.19 | absentia | sa1100s are 206 mhz or 203mhz ? |
| 20:06.30 | absentia | hmmmm. |
| 20:06.39 | absentia | now I need to hunt down a good (promo) pic of each |
| 20:07.24 | rev | 206 |
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| 20:10.02 | sofaking | good afternoon. |
| 20:12.30 | absentia | does anyone nkow of or have a link to any of the official sharp product announcement pages for the models? 5500? 700? etc? |
| 20:14.32 | mithro | wow, people are actually using my compat libs |
| 20:14.40 | absentia | yes |
| 20:14.48 | absentia | I grabbed a copy, need to start using it |
| 20:16.16 | sofaking | has anyone had any experience with the SanDisk SDWCFB-128 Wi-Fi/128mb CF card? |
| 20:16.56 | sofaking | I've been on google.com for an hour now and can find nothing... |
| 20:17.36 | mithro | my main question is about the libraries icon in the setting tab |
| 20:17.40 | mithro | are people using that |
| 20:17.47 | mithro | or from the command line? |
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| 20:27.20 | George- | I hate fighting with perl |
| 20:27.21 | George- | I always lose |
| 20:27.26 | absentia | what are you trying to do ? |
| 20:27.56 | George- | dunno |
| 20:28.06 | absentia | here's a fight I had with pewl, and I won. |
| 20:28.15 | absentia | well, if you don't know what you're trying to do, why blame pewl? |
| 20:28.17 | absentia | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.15 | mithro | what windowing system are they using on that new samsung phone? |
| 20:29.34 | james_lan | heh, review of the e800 (also with 640x480 screen but pocket pc...) basicly says that nothing windows wise supports 640x480, and essentially it's overpriced, and overspeced, and doesn't take advantage of the overspec... anyone have problems with a 640x480 zaurus? :) |
| 20:29.58 | absentia | well, there was an old ms madate |
| 20:30.02 | absentia | no one needs more than 640k |
| 20:30.05 | absentia | er, wait, differen't mandate |
| 20:31.13 | absentia | in apache, the readme.html comes after the files |
| 20:31.19 | absentia | anyone know how to make it come before the file listing ? |
| 20:33.59 | james_lan | mithro: mizi |
| 20:37.45 | mickeyl | depending on what they use as touchscreen it's probably pretty easy to get Qt/E on it |
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| 21:09.39 | freyr | hi... i just ordered the 5500 but Im going to need a wireless card. My requirements is that it is cheap and I can use airsnort and such utilities to find public wireless nets |
| 21:09.54 | freyr | I hear I need a prism chipset no? |
| 21:10.58 | fishy | yes |
| 21:11.24 | freyr | fishy: any specific suggestions? I'd prefer to have 0 trouble and pay less |
| 21:11.25 | fishy | prisim2 even :-O |
| 21:11.30 | freyr | i guess thats obvious though |
| 21:11.36 | freyr | fishy: so i want a prism2 based cf card? |
| 21:11.39 | james_lan | can you flash a new 64-0 kernel over a 40-24 (I used a friends cf, and apparently got the 40-24...not the one I wanted, but what he wanted) |
| 21:11.59 | fishy | freyr: lesse |
| 21:12.16 | freyr | lesse? |
| 21:12.27 | fishy | 1 sec :) |
| 21:12.50 | fishy | http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=194 <-- prisim |
| 21:13.07 | fishy | http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=434 <--prism2 |
| 21:14.07 | fishy | the only problem with wireless cards is they tend to break |
| 21:14.22 | freyr | huh? |
| 21:14.26 | freyr | how so? |
| 21:14.42 | fishy | if you put the zaurus in your pocket |
| 21:14.51 | fishy | and you bend over |
| 21:14.59 | fishy | the card bends |
| 21:15.08 | fishy | and the circut board in it cracks |
| 21:15.20 | freyr | oh |
| 21:15.26 | freyr | is that the case with all wireless cards? |
| 21:15.32 | freyr | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ELLL/qid=1072127695//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl23/102-0340810-8687344?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846 |
| 21:15.37 | freyr | this ones on sale pretty well ;) |
| 21:15.56 | fishy | you can get it cheaper than that |
| 21:16.10 | fishy | I got mine for $29 bucks after a rebate |
| 21:16.24 | fishy | the rebate I did recieve BTW |
| 21:16.26 | absentia | I don't leave my wireless plugged in and on ... in my pocket. |
| 21:16.41 | freyr | are there any wireless cards that dont have this problem? |
| 21:16.50 | freyr | seems kinda silly that its designed like this |
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| 21:17.18 | freyr | is the prism or prism2 better? |
| 21:17.36 | fishy | I have had no problem with with my hawking card breaking |
| 21:17.43 | absentia | I can't get my wcf12 to run |
| 21:17.52 | absentia | but it's not as large as the dlink 660w |
| 21:18.03 | fishy | but thats probally because im more careful with it |
| 21:18.13 | fishy | my broken wcf12 ran fine |
| 21:18.25 | fishy | but my hawking's range is better |
| 21:19.06 | freyr | http://www.uk-dave.com/tutorials/zaurus/linksys-wlan.shtml |
| 21:20.49 | freyr | any of you installed debian ? |
| 21:20.52 | freyr | im going to do that 4 sure |
| 21:20.59 | absentia | I get vertical bars down the screen and the zaurus is locked |
| 21:21.08 | absentia | if I remove the card, the bars go away, and the zaurus picks right back up |
| 21:21.14 | absentia | I installed zdebian.... |
| 21:21.23 | freyr | good? |
| 21:21.38 | fishy | absentia: faulty card :( |
| 21:22.00 | absentia | http://www.spy.org/zaurus/screenshots/scottyelich/ |
| 21:22.16 | absentia | but the sd is so unstable, it took me a weekend of "rsync" to get the zdebian files to the Z! |
| 21:22.22 | absentia | I couldn't untar! the sd would go unstable |
| 21:22.26 | absentia | I tried all the tricks, none helped. |
| 21:22.36 | absentia | only rsync, crash, reboot, fsck, repeat |
| 21:22.39 | absentia | until I got it all on |
| 21:22.41 | absentia | so, screw it |
| 21:22.44 | absentia | I'm going with x11 rom. |
| 21:22.47 | absentia | it has everything I need. |
| 21:22.56 | freyr | absentia: what do you mean sd unstable? |
| 21:23.01 | freyr | because of ure sd card? |
| 21:23.10 | absentia | if I untar to it (need to untar the zdebian-big file) |
| 21:23.14 | absentia | the sd gives write errors |
| 21:23.17 | absentia | then I can't access it |
| 21:23.25 | absentia | i have to reboot, fsck ... (and then I reboot again) |
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| 21:23.32 | absentia | apt-get? bewm... too many writes. |
| 21:23.39 | absentia | cd to the sd, do a "wget" on a file... |
| 21:23.42 | fishy | my sd card is also fuged |
| 21:23.42 | absentia | bewm.. card offline |
| 21:23.51 | absentia | it's not the card |
| 21:23.53 | absentia | it's the damn zaurus |
| 21:24.02 | freyr | really? |
| 21:24.03 | freyr | that sux |
| 21:24.10 | absentia | yup |
| 21:24.17 | freyr | heh... i dunno... i just got a zaurus for 179 bux |
| 21:24.18 | freyr | ;] |
| 21:24.20 | absentia | leave sync write on, and it's slow as hell... |
| 21:24.33 | absentia | ya, I was lucky and got one cheap too |
| 21:24.56 | fishy | my SD card randomly looses/deletes data |
| 21:25.04 | fishy | after a few hours :P |
| 21:25.10 | absentia | ah |
| 21:25.11 | absentia | not mine |
| 21:25.15 | absentia | mine holds ok, just can't write to it... fast. |
| 21:25.18 | freyr | they got more at www.tigerdirect.com |
| 21:25.22 | freyr | theyre recertified though |
| 21:26.43 | absentia | anyway, the x11 rom is best... for the 700 and 760 |
| 21:27.01 | absentia | although I think the 320x240 would be far too small for X.. I don't even think cacko has support for the 5500/5000/5600 |
| 21:27.22 | _Psycho | hey i was wondering |
| 21:27.23 | absentia | I need to get my zaurus cluster up... |
| 21:27.28 | _Psycho | x11 rom was slow as hell on my c700 |
| 21:27.37 | absentia | ps: I have it on my 700... and I thought it was nice. |
| 21:27.38 | _Psycho | how is the speed on a c750/760 |
| 21:27.51 | absentia | I havent put it there yet.... still have cacko on the 760... |
| 21:27.54 | _Psycho | like loading abiword or konqueror take like a minute+ |
| 21:27.56 | absentia | I need to dump out my data, etc. |
| 21:28.07 | _Psycho | was wondering maybe its the kernel |
| 21:28.11 | absentia | anyone run minimo on it yet? |
| 21:28.50 | freyr | isnt only the 5500/5600 available in north america? |
| 21:30.45 | absentia | 1MB/sec slirp |
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| 21:37.13 | enginuitor | Hey, this is totally OT, but I just ordered from Amazon.com... |
| 21:37.24 | enginuitor | And the package was delivered several days ago... |
| 21:37.32 | enginuitor | But I still don't see the charge on my check card... |
| 21:37.44 | enginuitor | Do they usually wait a long time before they charge you? |
| 21:37.48 | freyr | hehe |
| 21:37.49 | freyr | i dunno |
| 21:38.04 | freyr | i tried to order from amazon but someone got the last one |
| 21:38.07 | freyr | maybe it was u :) |
| 21:38.15 | enginuitor | Was it a screen cover for the Z? |
| 21:38.20 | freyr | but i found a deal @ tigerdirect |
| 21:38.30 | freyr | oh... Z-5500 |
| 21:38.34 | enginuitor | ah |
| 21:39.14 | enginuitor | I'm finally gonna work on my site... |
| 21:39.26 | enginuitor | In all its dynamically-generated glory |
| 21:39.33 | enginuitor | Well, kinda |
| 21:40.29 | enginuitor | Well, as long as nobody is protesting to my babble, I'll go on... |
| 21:40.41 | enginuitor | I fixed up my oscilloscope |
| 21:40.47 | enginuitor | an ol HP 1725A |
| 21:40.50 | enginuitor | old* |
| 21:41.03 | enginuitor | Got the dual-trace thing working too |
| 21:41.17 | enginuitor | Which is good, because somebody just gave me a wireless mic I need to fix... |
| 21:41.42 | enginuitor | Radio Shack model |
| 21:41.58 | enginuitor | I scoped it and it's just putting out a dead carrier |
| 21:42.33 | enginuitor | No modulation... |
| 21:43.19 | enginuitor | Actually, I'm seeing a very slight constant wave... |
| 21:43.31 | enginuitor | But no response to mic signals |
| 21:43.38 | enginuitor | I don't think it's even worth fixing... |
| 21:43.45 | enginuitor | I've got better things to do... |
| 21:44.09 | enginuitor | Like setting up -- |
| 21:44.18 | enginuitor | I can't tell anybody about it yet... |
| 21:44.23 | enginuitor | Well, I already have... |
| 21:44.33 | enginuitor | But it's sorta a secret until I finish |
| 21:44.50 | enginuitor | Now I see I've filled my entire screen with my random babble... |
| 21:44.56 | enginuitor | So I'll shut up |
| 21:45.00 | enginuitor | </babble> |
| 21:45.20 | Reddog-[Away] | hush |
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| 21:54.37 | Disconnect | enginuitor: when in doubt, assume people would protest... |
| 22:04.50 | enginuitor | Disconnect: I'll remember that... |
| 22:10.21 | Foxdie | *xmodmap |
| 22:15.03 | absentia | box and box ? |
| 22:15.24 | Foxdie | the first one is the sterling pound symbol, the second one is euro symbol |
| 22:16.36 | treke | dont forget real money |
| 22:16.43 | Foxdie | real money/ |
| 22:16.51 | Foxdie | Define real money |
| 22:19.28 | treke | greenbacks |
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| 23:02.55 | smashie | how can I 'protect' my flash of waering out, is it better to use the 64-0 Image? |
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| 23:09.36 | absentia | re |
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| 23:17.18 | absentia | mickeyl ? |
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| 23:30.52 | absentia | hmmm |
| 23:30.59 | absentia | my 700/760 power plug for the zaurus |
| 23:31.03 | absentia | doesn't work with the 5600! |
| 23:31.35 | Disconnect | thats not a good sign for those of us w/ a 7x0.. |
| 23:32.20 | Foxdie | well not an official |
| 23:34.14 | absentia | I thought my 5600 had died |
| 23:34.23 | absentia | I had it plugged in ... I have a 7x0 power supply by my bed |
| 23:34.25 | absentia | and one at my desk |
| 23:34.29 | absentia | so I don't have to swap power... |
| 23:34.45 | absentia | so I just plugged the 5600 into the 7x0 one.. and then the 5600 wouldn't power on, etc... :-) battery was dead. |
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| 23:34.58 | absentia | I just tried both 7x0... nada.. plugged in the 5600, the battery light lights up. |
| 23:35.12 | absentia | 3 minutes to charge |
| 23:35.13 | absentia | now it boots |
| 23:36.48 | absentia | I can imagine the sharp zaurus 12000, 800x600 screen... clamshell... 2 cf, 1 sd, wifi, bluetooth, 128mb ram, 1gb flash, true speaker, mic, camera usb, firewire, .... |
| 23:36.50 | absentia | :-> |
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| 23:37.37 | George- | absentia: you forgot the ATI Radeon 9-Billion-Pro |
| 23:37.51 | absentia | heheh |
| 23:37.57 | absentia | I had a funny graphic for graphics cards... |
| 23:38.00 | absentia | I'll have to dig it up |
| 23:38.05 | absentia | someone combined all the cards into one |
| 23:38.06 | absentia | :;-> |
| 23:38.26 | absentia | anyone else have OZ 3.3.6-pre1 and have it not set a default route when a cf wifi is inserted? |
| 23:38.31 | absentia | my dhcp sever doesn't provide the default route |
| 23:38.39 | Foxdie | you're such a dreamer scott :) |
| 23:39.08 | George- | argh, it's foxdie |
| 23:39.09 | George- | DIE |
| 23:39.11 | George- | DIE |
| 23:39.12 | George- | DIE |
| 23:39.15 | George- | :) |
| 23:39.21 | absentia | ok |
| 23:39.29 | absentia | cacko does this for me automagically |
| 23:39.32 | absentia | I forget that oz doesn't. |
| 23:39.51 | treke | oz does... |
| 23:39.57 | Foxdie | the X11 rom doesn't add it |
| 23:40.13 | absentia | really ? |
| 23:40.17 | absentia | I thought it did for me. |
| 23:40.20 | absentia | ha! |
| 23:40.22 | absentia | dammit |
| 23:40.26 | absentia | oz doesn't for me, x11 does! |
| 23:40.37 | treke | your dhcp server sucks :) |
| 23:40.47 | Foxdie | my DHCP server is WinRoute |
| 23:40.52 | Foxdie | of course it sucks |
| 23:41.15 | absentia | mine is smc wireless basestation |
| 23:42.04 | Foxdie | hmm I wonder what the best dhcp server is |
| 23:42.22 | treke | I like the ISC dhcp server |
| 23:44.01 | absentia | isc |
| 23:46.10 | Foxdie | ics? |
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| 23:46.26 | absentia | isc |
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| 23:47.31 | absentia | interesting |
| 23:47.42 | absentia | konq can't scale to < 50% on my gif images |
| 23:47.45 | absentia | so broken |
| 23:49.10 | Foxdie | you know now I think about it, konq sucks on the X11 ROM :( |
| 23:50.00 | absentia | I need to see what my mahjong tiles look l ike under 320x240 |
| 23:50.06 | absentia | 1 tile is larger than the entire screen |
| 23:50.10 | absentia | so I'm trying to figure out the scale |
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| 23:50.22 | absentia | and I can't get any browsers on the z to display in 320x240 and scale down < 50% |
| 23:50.24 | absentia | ah |
| 23:50.27 | absentia | there's my 5600 ... |
| 23:50.46 | absentia6 | h0h00h0 |
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| 23:53.05 | Disconnect | treke: I gotta bail, but the default-route thing is an issue in oz 3.3.5 .. info on the lists. there is some symlink or other strangeness that causes it to fail (whereas manual config and/or command-line setting work fine) |
| 23:53.19 | Disconnect | regardless of dhcp server |
| 23:53.19 | treke | Disconnect: wierd. |
| 23:53.28 | absentia | hey mickey (toni basil?) ... I use to make some of my files with .spy extension.. but then I decided that extensions were bad and went extensionless |
| 23:53.31 | treke | I never had that problem, guess I got lucky |
| 23:54.18 | mickeyl | yeah, spyce rules |
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