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| 00:48.34 | angry | icefox: how far should a monitor be from your eyes/head? |
| 00:49.04 | treke | about that far |
| 00:49.21 | mewyn | 22" monitor? |
| 00:49.24 | angry | ahh thanks |
| 00:49.28 | angry | 17" |
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| 00:56.27 | W|GG-ZAURUS | hey all |
| 00:56.31 | chouimat|food | angry: 8 feet |
| 00:56.56 | angry | chouimat|food: ahh damn now i need to move it closer |
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| 01:01.01 | mewyn | hmmm |
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| 02:17.57 | mewyn | hey roge |
| 02:18.02 | roge99 | hello |
| 02:18.14 | angry | god electricsheep screensaver rocks |
| 02:20.55 | chouimat|food | angry: ?????? |
| 02:21.06 | angry | www.electricsheep.org |
| 02:21.22 | chouimat | angry: www.rathergood.com/moon_song |
| 02:21.45 | angry | that is freaking scary |
| 02:22.58 | chouimat | angry: hehe :) |
| 02:23.21 | chouimat | angry: www.rathergood.com/vikings |
| 02:24.27 | chouimat | WE LIKE THE MOONS .... |
| 02:24.43 | mewyn | hmmmm |
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| 02:27.25 | LordDavon | Hello everyone |
| 02:28.52 | arete | hey ld |
| 02:29.00 | LordDavon | Hey arete |
| 02:29.04 | arete | you've been pretty quiet on zaurus.com lately =) |
| 02:29.23 | LordDavon | I have my reasons. :) |
| 02:29.25 | arete | hehe |
| 02:29.30 | arete | where is the conversion ipkg? =) |
| 02:29.34 | arete | tried the rom update? =) |
| 02:29.45 | LordDavon | I haven't tried the update yet. |
| 02:29.54 | LordDavon | I did download it though |
| 02:29.55 | Zxcvb_ | any news on OZ? |
| 02:30.45 | LordDavon | The conversion package is right here. |
| 02:31.22 | arete | hehe |
| 02:31.26 | arete | why isn't it online? =P |
| 02:31.37 | LordDavon | Long story |
| 02:33.56 | LordDavon | arete: I am moving ownership of the conversion to someone else. |
| 02:34.04 | arete | ahh |
| 02:34.08 | arete | good riddance I imagine =) |
| 02:34.40 | LordDavon | arete: Not really. I am trying to benefit the Zaurus community. |
| 02:35.36 | arete | yeah but conversions sound boring |
| 02:35.40 | kergoth | greetings LordDavon |
| 02:35.48 | roge99 | hey kergoth how's it going |
| 02:35.55 | mewyn | re kerg |
| 02:35.55 | LordDavon | arete: I have entered an agreement with Sharp which is going to stop me from being the front man on it. |
| 02:36.01 | LordDavon | Heya Chris. |
| 02:36.13 | kergoth | hey mike, roger |
| 02:36.15 | kergoth | not bad at all |
| 02:36.33 | kergoth | just got a haircut, feel lighter |
| 02:36.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:36.37 | roge99 | lol |
| 02:36.41 | LordDavon | arete: I will still be supporting what I can. |
| 02:36.51 | LordDavon | kergoth: How goes your progress? |
| 02:37.00 | arete | ld: oh REALLY now? |
| 02:38.09 | LordDavon | arete: Don't bother speculating. Nothing is in writing yet anyways. I doubt it will be. |
| 02:38.25 | kergoth | LordDavon: ugh, juggling so many things. OpenZaurus 3.1rc2 released, rc3 will release within a week. Regarding the C700, I've written up a list of items I'd like to see improved, to review and determine the feasability of each.. the 2.4.19 kernel for the 5000d/5500 is on hold due to SD.. I'll be getting specifications translated which should allow me to port the ipaq MMC driver however. |
| 02:38.26 | LordDavon | arete: But until I know, I am not moving any further. |
| 02:38.35 | arete | ahh |
| 02:39.16 | kergoth | oh, Opie now picks up the C700 in its hardware support class, and qt/e now supports the on the fly rotation simliar to what the C700 currently has |
| 02:39.24 | kergoth | the opie support bits for that are in |
| 02:39.26 | LordDavon | kergoth: Great. Get me that list. Any way we can replace the launcher? |
| 02:39.52 | kergoth | we certainly _can_, but Opie's launcher isnt much better.. to _really_ improve it we'd have to see about rewriting it |
| 02:39.58 | LordDavon | kergoth: I wonder about the resolution switching. |
| 02:40.02 | kergoth | yeah, as do I |
| 02:40.10 | kergoth | the kernel sources will tell me everything about those bits |
| 02:40.16 | kergoth | so I'm still anxiously awaiting them from Sharp |
| 02:40.32 | LordDavon | kergoth: Did you request them? |
| 02:40.55 | kergoth | LordDavon: yep, quite some time ago. It was first scheduled for release on Jan 14th, then subsequently scheduled for Jan 24th.. still not out there. |
| 02:41.04 | kergoth | LordDavon: I guess they delayed it again, though I havent heard till when |
| 02:41.22 | treke|home | is it now scheduled for the 34th? |
| 02:41.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:41.31 | kergoth | brb |
| 02:43.35 | LordDavon | kergoth: I can talk to them tomorrow... if they are still talking to me. They haven't talked to me since I told them I wasn't signing the you-know-what. |
| 02:44.19 | LordDavon | Actually, I didn't say no... just delayed and talked lawyers. ;) |
| 02:44.56 | LordDavon | treke: They always release kernels on the 366th day of the year. :) |
| 02:46.11 | LordDavon | kergoth: My lawyer basically confirmed my worst fears on it. *sigh* |
| 02:46.29 | LordDavon | kergoth: I guess this isn't the best place to talk about this. |
| 02:46.37 | LordDavon | brb... need a smoke. |
| 02:46.40 | kergoth | k |
| 02:48.56 | kergoth | heh, I remember waiting for the 5000d/5500 kernel sources |
| 02:49.02 | kergoth | that took quite some time |
| 02:49.36 | kergoth | I gather they're held up in red tape, plus they have to deal with export stuff to post anything to the web |
| 02:52.08 | LordDavon | back |
| 02:52.30 | LordDavon | chouimat: Don't try and understand. It is not what is sounds like. |
| 02:52.49 | chouimat | LordDavon: ok |
| 02:53.20 | LordDavon | Just remember that Dynamism is still supporting the C700 and will continue to. |
| 02:53.41 | treke|home | LordDavon: so you mean santa claus didnt really threaten to kill you? |
| 02:54.18 | LordDavon | treke: Sharp has been great. |
| 02:56.02 | treke|home | never mind |
| 02:57.21 | LordDavon | :et's just put it this way... Sharp has been working on something for the Zaurus users and I have been part of the idea. |
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| 03:00.03 | kergoth | treke|home: nice try though |
| 03:00.28 | chouimat | LordDavon: and the cancelled the project? |
| 03:02.36 | LordDavon | chouimat: The project isn't cancelled, just switching ownership. |
| 03:04.36 | LordDavon | It is causing delays in getting a release. |
| 03:06.05 | LordDavon | Piete: Morning |
| 03:06.21 | Piete | heya |
| 03:11.37 | sjborch | allo? anybody home? |
| 03:12.01 | sjborch | does anyone use the Z mostly as a PDA? or for it's linux OS? |
| 03:12.05 | kergoth | sjborch: no, nobody's home |
| 03:12.15 | sjborch | kergoth that's what I thought. |
| 03:12.48 | sjborch | I was hoping to get a little text going, since I'm trying to get practice in using the bitchx chat program. |
| 03:12.51 | LordDavon | sjborch: I use it for gaming. |
| 03:13.10 | LordDavon | sjborch: It has the best Mame and Mess ports. |
| 03:13.14 | sjborch | LordDavon : I love nethack, even though I always get clobbered. |
| 03:13.37 | kergoth | LordDavon: </shameless plug> ;) |
| 03:13.43 | LordDavon | sjborch: I agree. I use explore mode. |
| 03:13.54 | LordDavon | kergoth: I take great shame in that plug! |
| 03:14.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:14.06 | LordDavon | ;) |
| 03:14.24 | LordDavon | Anyone here use MaxMiga? |
| 03:14.28 | sjborch | I got to one level where I was killed about 20 times in short order. I don't know what I would do outside of explore mode. |
| 03:14.44 | LordDavon | sjborch: heh. I agree. |
| 03:15.09 | sjborch | I like to play it in text mode to "rough it". I still remember Zork I fondly. |
| 03:15.26 | LordDavon | Yup. Me too. Played Zork on my C64. |
| 03:16.14 | sjborch | LordDavon I played on my Osborne 1. |
| 03:16.37 | LordDavon | Never heard of it. :) |
| 03:17.17 | sjborch | I just went into X to read the FAQ online. |
| 03:18.30 | sjborch | I saw a couple of SL-5500's at Fry's, so they're back in stock. |
| 03:19.12 | sjborch | I was beginning to worry that I had bought an Agenda VR3 in color. |
| 03:20.20 | LordDavon | There are tons of applications for the Zurus |
| 03:20.23 | LordDavon | Zaurus |
| 03:20.45 | sjborch | a friend sent me the link, but he was thinking of Dr. Zeus from Planet of the Apes. |
| 03:21.06 | LordDavon | brb... daughter is up |
| 03:21.47 | Piete | http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux/ |
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| 03:37.30 | t8063vk | As any one played with the SL-C700? |
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| 03:38.15 | LordDavon | t8063vk: I have heard of it. |
| 03:38.37 | t8063vk | I just got one.... It's nice |
| 03:38.46 | LordDavon | t8063vk: Where did you get it? |
| 03:39.03 | t8063vk | hummm let me think.... |
| 03:39.32 | Cloudchaser | hiya everyone |
| 03:39.46 | LordDavon | t8063vk: Just kidding. I have 2 of them. :) Doesn't everyone. |
| 03:39.51 | Cloudchaser | what is it? |
| 03:39.54 | t8063vk | LordDavon: Dynamism |
| 03:39.56 | LordDavon | Cloudchaser: Heya |
| 03:39.59 | Cloudchaser | hi :) |
| 03:40.12 | kergoth | hi Cloudchaser |
| 03:40.17 | Cloudchaser | just reading back a bit..good luck in "whatever it is" you're doing |
| 03:40.22 | Cloudchaser | hiya kergoth! :) |
| 03:40.31 | LordDavon | Cloudchaser: Thanks. |
| 03:40.35 | chouimat | hi Cloudchaser |
| 03:40.37 | Cloudchaser | whats a t8063vk |
| 03:40.45 | LordDavon | t8063vk: They are sweet units. |
| 03:40.53 | Cloudchaser | units of what? |
| 03:41.00 | Cloudchaser | hehe i googled |
| 03:41.01 | LordDavon | C700 |
| 03:41.06 | Cloudchaser | didn't come up with anything |
| 03:41.32 | Cloudchaser | why do they have that name? |
| 03:41.53 | t8063vk | Oh yes they are.... the only problem is that all info I can find is in jp |
| 03:41.59 | LordDavon | Porn-held was taken. huh!? |
| 03:42.27 | Cloudchaser | how's things going kergoth? |
| 03:43.05 | LordDavon | t8063vk: What do you need to know? |
| 03:43.28 | LordDavon | t8063vk: I know a little bit about them. |
| 03:43.30 | t8063vk | I'm trying to get the USB connection to work |
| 03:43.31 | Cloudchaser | whats different about the t8063vk/ |
| 03:43.36 | kergoth | Cloudchaser: oh pretty good. hectic.. you? |
| 03:44.02 | Cloudchaser | kergoth: very busy ;) working part-time...school full time...keeps me busy |
| 03:44.05 | Cloudchaser | lot of reading |
| 03:44.27 | kergoth | thats cool :) |
| 03:44.30 | LordDavon | Install all of the applications on the CD-Rom. Use the first selection for all of the prompts. |
| 03:44.51 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:44.57 | kergoth | glib's configure script doesnt cache its results |
| 03:44.58 | kergoth | well wtf? |
| 03:45.12 | kergoth | how can i supply test results then? |
| 03:45.13 | kergoth | grr |
| 03:45.16 | Cloudchaser | my new dvd writer broke though :( |
| 03:45.21 | Cloudchaser | damn kids |
| 03:45.24 | t8063vk | I did that.... it works under windows.... I need to get it working on a linux system |
| 03:45.28 | kergoth | Cloudchaser: ack, htat sucks |
| 03:46.12 | Cloudchaser | course..neither of the kids will fess up... |
| 03:46.20 | LordDavon | Need to install samba on you Linux box. |
| 03:46.31 | Cloudchaser | so not sure what happend to it.. |
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| 03:46.50 | LordDavon|C700 | kewl... |
| 03:47.01 | LordDavon|C700 | Now I can go for a smoke |
| 03:47.04 | Cloudchaser | is there something secret about the t8063vk? |
| 03:47.19 | kergoth | isnt that just his nick? |
| 03:47.23 | LordDavon|C700 | It is magic Cloud |
| 03:47.28 | t8063vk | no.... just my work number |
| 03:47.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:47.34 | chouimat | ulyx: lart LordDavon |
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| 03:48.10 | LordDavon|C700 | heh |
| 03:48.15 | Cloudchaser | guess i'm tired :) |
| 03:51.54 | LordDavon|C700 | Ok. Can you still see me? |
| 03:52.03 | kergoth | no |
| 03:52.37 | LordDavon|C700 | I love the reception on this. |
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| 04:00.18 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 04:00.30 | Cloudchaser | g'night chouimat|Zzzz |
| 04:00.33 | Cloudchaser | sleep well ;) |
| 04:01.18 | chouimat|Zzzz | Cloudchaser: since I have a mononucleose that won't be a problem :) |
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| 04:07.49 | Cloudchaser | ack! |
| 04:07.52 | Cloudchaser | i hope you get better soon! |
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| 04:55.47 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:55.47 | kergoth | bore |
| 04:55.49 | kergoth | dd |
| 04:59.57 | Cloudchaser | hehe |
| 05:00.09 | Cloudchaser | hey.. i'm going to download the latest kismet..what's pcap? |
| 05:00.20 | kergoth | its a library |
| 05:00.27 | kergoth | for network sniffing and the like |
| 05:00.34 | kergoth | used by tcpdump, etc |
| 05:00.42 | Cloudchaser | ah so i should get that one? |
| 05:00.45 | kergoth | kismet can use it, but on the sharp rom it doesnt, it uses its direct support for wlan-ng |
| 05:00.56 | kergoth | aka its 'prism2' support |
| 05:01.12 | Cloudchaser | ok so i don't use that then |
| 05:01.21 | kergoth | yep, not on sharp |
| 05:01.25 | kergoth | in OZ you want one for pcap |
| 05:02.31 | Cloudchaser | k thanks ;) |
| 05:02.50 | kergoth | np |
| 05:02.52 | Cloudchaser | i hope i can remember how to get it all going ;) |
| 05:03.06 | kergoth | kismet_hopper; kismet; should be sufficient |
| 05:03.10 | kergoth | as of the latest versions |
| 05:03.17 | Cloudchaser | ah great :0 |
| 05:03.21 | kergoth | the hopper should put hte card in monitor mode for you, no need |
| 05:03.36 | Cloudchaser | i remember the first time.. i had to jump through hoops and get lots of help |
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| 05:06.41 | kergoth | bleh, i'm in one of those depressed, angry, yet contemplative moods today |
| 05:07.28 | Cloudchaser | my kitty just knocked over the glass of milk one of my boys left on the coffee table |
| 05:07.41 | Cloudchaser | now she's lapping it all up |
| 05:07.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:08.15 | sjborch | they lick the butter. |
| 05:08.41 | sjborch | (that was the why you can't have a cat argument) |
| 05:08.45 | Cloudchaser | hehe |
| 05:08.59 | Cloudchaser | she's knocking anything the moves or rolls off the table now |
| 05:09.05 | james_lan-deskto | heh |
| 05:09.07 | james_lan-deskto | my computer cat (if you see random stuff it may be her) will sit and put both paws on the keyboard and act like she is typing. |
| 05:09.22 | sjborch | clear |
| 05:09.28 | Cloudchaser | she likes to play with the laser pointer...so she bats it around when no one will play with her |
| 05:09.29 | sjborch | (sorry) forgot the / |
| 05:09.34 | kergoth | hm |
| 05:09.41 | sjborch | careful, you could be infringing on a patent :) |
| 05:09.50 | kergoth | im gonna go watch a dvd, a knights tale i think. and then sleep |
| 05:09.51 | kergoth | night all |
| 05:09.59 | Cloudchaser | g'night kergoth |
| 05:10.02 | james_lan-deskto | night kergoth |
| 05:10.09 | sjborch | I haven't been able to watch a dvd in linux yet. |
| 05:13.05 | Cloudchaser | hmm i nead more ram.. kismet doesn't like to install to sd and i only have 8 mb left |
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| 08:31.22 | kendrick | time for bed |
| 08:31.23 | kendrick | 'gntie! |
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| 12:27.06 | effy | anyone know of Zaurus Usenet groups? |
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| 12:40.38 | kms | hi everyone! i see i can get socket wl6001 wireless cf? will that work? i see only wl6000 as listed... probably not much difference |
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| 13:33.06 | ljp_ | effy: about newsgroup, try comp.sys.handhelds |
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| 15:55.16 | ciaolinux | icefox: what software do you use to organizze your pics in your website? |
| 15:59.30 | icefox | custom |
| 15:59.36 | icefox | PHPQuickGallery |
| 15:59.47 | icefox | will be putting it up for anyone else to use in a few days |
| 16:00.22 | ciaolinux | icefox: isn't that the one ihttp://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/programs/program.php?program=PHPQuickGallery/?n |
| 16:00.43 | icefox | yah, except kaylee is my home machine, thus not the real site |
| 16:05.55 | icefox | thus the tar.gz files are of size=0 |
| 16:05.55 | icefox | i.e. I havn't finished that page |
| 16:05.55 | icefox | when I finish it I put it up on csh my real web server |
| 16:05.56 | ciaolinux | okie |
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| 16:05.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:08.21 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:10.51 | ciaolinux | morning chouimat + kergoth |
| 16:12.47 | chouimat | hi ciaolinux |
| 16:13.13 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
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| 16:31.25 | chouimat | http://slashdot.org/articles/03/01/29/1447203.shtml?tid=134 |
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| 16:36.04 | Piete | ibot slashdot |
| 16:37.25 | Piete | chouimat: which one is yours? |
| 16:38.14 | chouimat | Piete: ulyx |
| 16:38.14 | Piete | chouimat: I can't access /. from here.. so could you give me the link in the story? |
| 16:38.14 | chouimat | ulyx slashdot? |
| 16:38.14 | ulyx | dunno |
| 16:38.14 | chouimat | ulyx slashdot |
| 16:38.14 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.14 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.14 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.18 | ulyx | Finally: PC-to-Phone Calling from Li | timothy | 29/01 12:08 |
| 16:38.52 | chouimat | ulyx freshmeat |
| 16:38.52 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.52 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.52 | ulyx | WidgetWeb 0.3.1 (Stable) | A framework for creating communit.. |
| 16:38.52 | ulyx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:43.18 | warmi | hi |
| 16:43.54 | chouimat | hi warmi |
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| 16:51.34 | mewyn | hey warmi |
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| 19:35.01 | *** topic/#zaurus is Sharp PDA Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || http://openzaurus.org/ || OpenZaurus 3.1rc2 released. |
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| 20:10.02 | rastakid | hello |
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| 20:10.23 | rastakid | What's the directory in /home/root/Documents/ to put ipk files in? /applications/ipkg/ or something? |
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| 22:28.57 | cor | ok, i'll ask something, what cf/.11b cards work best? (best support, drain little battery power, etc.) |
| 22:33.20 | oGMo | cor: http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 22:36.55 | cor | personal opion weighs into it alot too... |
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| 23:02.27 | mewyn | gah |
| 23:06.41 | mewyn | this blows |
| 23:15.35 | sjborch | mewyn: what's that? |
| 23:16.10 | mewyn | just various shit |
| 23:16.42 | chouimat | ulyx: lart Quebec gov |
| 23:16.47 | chouimat | ulyx: lart Quebec gov |
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| 23:18.07 | mewyn | ibot lart the world |
| 23:18.30 | chouimat | mewyn: they found a great idea to help urban transport |
| 23:18.41 | mewyn | who/what is that? |
| 23:18.51 | chouimat | my provincial Gov |
| 23:19.13 | chouimat | mewyn: they will add a new taxe of 0.015$ per litre gas |
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| 23:19.23 | treke | chouimat: suckage :( |
| 23:19.55 | raduga | i wonder |
| 23:20.07 | raduga | is that better than the plans of the US provincial government? |
| 23:20.12 | chouimat | treke: why they can have some thing to made people use it like: give a taxes return for the mensual pass |
| 23:20.28 | raduga | to help with their budget crises; but lowering taxes and increasing spending/ |
| 23:20.31 | raduga | ? |
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| 23:27.13 | chouimat | ibot change 23.95 usd to cad |
| 23:27.56 | hobbs | haha. ibot, botsnack |
| 23:29.40 | kergoth | grrr |
| 23:29.46 | kergoth | stupid openssl buildsystem |
| 23:29.47 | mewyn | kergoth: problems? |
| 23:29.52 | kergoth | you disable idea and it tries to compile it anyway |
| 23:29.59 | kergoth | and then b0rks saying hey, idea's not enabled |
| 23:30.02 | kergoth | WELL NO SHIT1 |
| 23:30.11 | hobbs | strange -- ibot doesn't know about "XAU", even though xe.com does. |
| 23:30.13 | Wintre | openssl... Well |
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| 23:30.22 | Wintre | I've head some choice words about it. |
| 23:30.23 | mewyn | kergoth: i found that redhat somehow eliminated the pte_offset function |
| 23:30.30 | Wintre | From the KDE guys, for example |
| 23:30.33 | kergoth | openssl 0.9.6 didnt run into this behavior, 0.9.7 did |
| 23:30.40 | kergoth | bastards |
| 23:30.43 | Wintre | And from a friend of mine who valgrinded it. |
| 23:30.49 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:30.52 | Wintre | Something like eighty thousand warnings |
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| 23:31.23 | kergoth | why, oh why, are you trying to fucking build idea if i disabled it |