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| 01:43.32 | |ryan| | I've collected 733 intresting packets |
| 01:43.56 | |ryan| | supposedly around 1500-4000 are needed |
| 01:44.16 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:44.18 | TheMasterMind1 | having fun eh |
| 01:45.47 | |ryan| | yeah |
| 01:45.57 | |ryan| | playing with kismet on my own network |
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| 01:46.24 | |ryan| | been running for a couple hours |
| 01:57.17 | |ryan| | hey, another 111 intresting packets |
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| 02:26.52 | james_lan-zaurus | anyone have a serial cable, and how well do they work for adding serial device to the z? |
| 02:27.40 | kergoth | I have one |
| 02:27.48 | kergoth | I dont use it with any serial devices.. I use it for kernel debugging |
| 02:27.50 | kergoth | but it works fine |
| 02:30.19 | james_lan-zaurus | oh, that reminds me, is the usb on the c700 a usb HOST adapter or just a usb adapter? |
| 02:31.08 | kergoth | the c700 doesnt have a usb host controller |
| 02:31.16 | kergoth | you'll be hard pressed to find many, if any, pdas with a host controller |
| 02:31.46 | james_lan-zaurus | drat, I could hope |
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| 02:41.07 | |ryan| | I ran out of space |
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| 04:01.38 | sjborch | Ah, I see. |
| 04:03.14 | sjborch | ibot hello |
| 04:03.14 | | hey, sjborch |
| 04:03.26 | kergoth | ibot: be zippy |
| 04:03.37 | kergoth | ibot: botsnack |
| 04:03.38 | | :) |
| 04:05.18 | sjborch | kergoth I see it's quiet in zaurusland right now. |
| 04:06.25 | kergoth | its a saturday night |
| 04:06.30 | kergoth | some of these people have _lives_ |
| 04:06.34 | kergoth | ;) |
| 04:06.49 | sjborch | I see. |
| 04:07.00 | sjborch | We don't have lives in #knoppix |
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| 04:07.42 | kergoth | Id be out myself cept I decided to take it easy this weekend |
| 04:07.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:08.32 | chouimat|zzzz | night |
| 04:12.07 | sjborch | chouimat|zzzz goodnight. |
| 04:18.05 | sjborch | clear |
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| 06:49.03 | cdm | evening. |
| 06:49.45 | kergoth | hey cdm |
| 06:50.08 | cdm | hey kergoth - got your hands on any of the new Z's yet? |
| 06:50.09 | cdm | ibot: seen Sniper |
| 06:50.09 | | sniper <~Sniper@gatekeepernj3.sharpsec.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 4d 11h 20m 10s ago, saying: 'hey'. |
| 06:50.53 | kergoth | cdm: c700 on loan from dynamism |
| 06:51.00 | kergoth | cdm: pretty smooth unit |
| 06:51.12 | cdm | kergoth: is that the calm-shell one? |
| 06:51.20 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:51.24 | kergoth | 640x480 lcd |
| 06:51.24 | cdm | nice nice |
| 06:51.29 | cdm | what are you doing with it? |
| 06:51.31 | kergoth | one of the best lcds i've seen to date |
| 06:51.37 | kergoth | assisting with the conversion for the US market |
| 06:51.39 | mewyn | time for me to sleep |
| 06:51.43 | kergoth | night mewyn |
| 06:51.47 | cdm | kergoth: sweet. |
| 06:52.00 | cdm | kergoth: when is that gonna be showing up? |
| 06:52.20 | kergoth | cdm: what do ya mean? |
| 06:53.10 | cdm | in the US. |
| 06:53.17 | kergoth | they're selling now |
| 06:53.28 | kergoth | they're heavily backordered, but customers are receiving units |
| 06:53.33 | cdm | nice. |
| 06:53.37 | cdm | what is the price on them? |
| 06:53.44 | kergoth | a hefty $699 |
| 06:53.57 | cdm | eesh. |
| 06:54.02 | cdm | that is too bad. |
| 06:54.09 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:54.13 | Deathwind | kergoth: isn't that imported from japan? or you mean sharp is actually retailing them in the US now? |
| 06:54.29 | kergoth | i'm hoping shapr will come up with a similar unit for the US and sell it at a reasonable price |
| 06:54.32 | oGMo | probably through dynamism, i think that's the price they were quoting |
| 06:54.37 | kergoth | people will _love_ the formfactor and hardware design |
| 06:54.38 | cdm | right, that is what I ment. |
| 06:54.41 | kergoth | its quite impressive |
| 06:54.46 | Deathwind | yeah |
| 06:54.53 | oGMo | cool |
| 06:54.57 | Deathwind | I'm already drooling over one :o)~ |
| 06:55.06 | kergoth | and man |
| 06:55.08 | oGMo | they always get all the good tech stuff in japan :( |
| 06:55.10 | kergoth | i love showing it off to coworkers |
| 06:55.24 | kergoth | "and check this out!" .. *flips display* |
| 06:55.34 | RockGtrSeattle | 699 for a c700?? |
| 06:55.39 | RockGtrSeattle | what processor?? |
| 06:55.43 | cdm | kergoth: so do you have an english one or is it still all .jp? |
| 06:55.48 | kergoth | 400mhz xscale |
| 06:55.53 | kergoth | cdm: i have it with the intial translations done |
| 06:55.55 | RockGtrSeattle | oh wow... |
| 06:55.56 | cdm | PXA250 though. |
| 06:56.04 | RockGtrSeattle | I want one.. I'll pay the 700... |
| 06:56.12 | kergoth | and its not c0 stepping/pxa255 either |
| 06:56.13 | cdm | thankfully it uses HW acceleration for the LCD. |
| 06:56.21 | kergoth | yeah, the lcd is very very nice |
| 06:56.26 | cdm | kergoth: PXA260 I think is what they are calling it now. |
| 06:56.50 | cdm | kergoth: too many bugs to keep it the same number. ;) |
| 06:56.56 | kergoth | yeah i know |
| 06:57.03 | kergoth | i heard they were renaming it cause the pxa250 has such a bad rap |
| 06:57.05 | kergoth | amusing |
| 06:57.19 | kergoth | sad, but amusing |
| 06:57.36 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: be warned that for raw CPU power the C700 will under-perform the 5500. |
| 06:57.50 | RockGtrSeattle | oh really? damn! |
| 06:57.54 | kergoth | given the cache problems, yeah |
| 06:57.59 | RockGtrSeattle | guess I'm off to the 5600 then.. |
| 06:58.04 | kergoth | depends on what you're doing .. but it does feel slightly sluggish |
| 06:58.06 | kergoth | RockGtrSeattle: um |
| 06:58.17 | kergoth | RockGtrSeattle: 5600 is the exact same cpu as the c700 |
| 06:58.25 | kergoth | same amount of lfash and ram as well |
| 06:58.35 | RockGtrSeattle | well, how are they *slower* than the 5500 then?!? |
| 06:58.42 | kergoth | because intel fucked up |
| 06:58.45 | kergoth | its a buggy cpu |
| 06:58.54 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: bugs in the CPU. |
| 06:59.04 | kergoth | cdm: I'm curious as to how IBM's new pda platform is going to do |
| 06:59.11 | kergoth | cdm: I'm gald to see a PPC unit up and coming |
| 06:59.14 | kergoth | glad that is |
| 06:59.14 | cdm | kergoth: me too. |
| 06:59.21 | RockGtrSeattle | so you mean it's probably worth it to go get the 5500 while it's still available?? |
| 06:59.24 | cdm | kergoth: it is missing alot of features as a reference design. |
| 06:59.30 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: it depends on what you care about. |
| 06:59.35 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:59.36 | RockGtrSeattle | cripes.. I really wanted the clamshell design... |
| 06:59.40 | kergoth | theres potential. we'll see. |
| 06:59.43 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: the c700 will have a better screen and higher rez. |
| 06:59.44 | RockGtrSeattle | I care about performance first and foremost. |
| 06:59.54 | kergoth | plus the c700 has the nicer keyboard |
| 06:59.57 | RockGtrSeattle | oh.. and a good screen. |
| 07:00.00 | kergoth | being the clamshell formfactor |
| 07:00.21 | RockGtrSeattle | well, how *much* slower will the c700/5600 be compared to the 5500? |
| 07:01.00 | kergoth | I havent done any extensive performance testing as of yet |
| 07:01.02 | kergoth | its on the todo |
| 07:01.21 | kergoth | I'm hacking away at the OZ 3.1 release and some opie issues, and the 2.4.19 kernel for the Z, and various other things atm |
| 07:01.21 | cdm | kergoth: but I am already trolling around at IBM to see if I can't get one. |
| 07:01.25 | RockGtrSeattle | well, I'll keep my eye on this channel so I can find out. |
| 07:01.50 | kergoth | cdm: nice, keep me posted ;) |
| 07:02.02 | kergoth | bleh, brb |
| 07:02.26 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: depends on what you are doing. |
| 07:02.37 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: some things will be nearly the same, others will be 10-20% slower. |
| 07:03.22 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: for example, the jvm will be MUCH slower. |
| 07:03.22 | RockGtrSeattle | anything coming out for the 5600/c700 that *won't* run on the 5500? |
| 07:03.30 | RockGtrSeattle | are you kidding me?!?!? |
| 07:03.37 | RockGtrSeattle | the JVM is *why* I want the Z... dammit. |
| 07:04.24 | kergoth | RockGtrSeattle: then wait for a unit on a newer version of the processor |
| 07:04.29 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: yep, I am serious. We use j9 and the reports of it on PXA250's are not good at all. |
| 07:04.30 | kergoth | wait for the next models |
| 07:05.51 | Deathwind | On THG (Tom's Hardware Guide) there was an article saying part of the problem was none of the apps were optimized for the XScale...but that makes no sense to me, cause isn't the XScale essentially based off the ARM architecture? So shouldn't the optimizations not have to change much/at all for software designed for a StronARM? |
| 07:05.54 | RockGtrSeattle | well, I'll get a 5500 in the meantime.. they're cheap enough... and that'll give me an edge for my java efforts until something comes out after the 5600/c700 |
| 07:06.11 | RockGtrSeattle | either that or I'll just keep using my newton.. ;) |
| 07:06.13 | Deathwind | *StrongARM |
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| 07:08.17 | RockGtrSeattle | well, at least the 5500's have dropped in price... |
| 07:09.00 | cdm | Deathwind: yeah, the stuff about "not optimized" is bullshit. |
| 07:09.18 | cdm | Deathwind: it would represent about 5% degredation after getting a 200% increase. |
| 07:09.40 | cdm | but the fact is for average things it is 5% slower then a CPU 1/2 of the clock speed. |
| 07:10.47 | Deathwind | yeah |
| 07:11.01 | RockGtrSeattle | so the answer is that when intel... well. Intel-ified the strongARM chip they screwed it up... |
| 07:11.13 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: no, not really. |
| 07:11.22 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: there are other CPUs with Xscale cores that are not suffering from these problems. |
| 07:11.29 | Deathwind | that's what I figured |
| 07:11.31 | RockGtrSeattle | ah ok. |
| 07:11.41 | RockGtrSeattle | that's fine.. I don't mind being wrong... :) |
| 07:11.44 | cdm | RockGtrSeattle: the troubles are with the on-chip controlers besides the Xscale core. |
| 07:11.57 | Deathwind | further backs up my notion of THG as an unreliable source |
| 07:12.51 | cdm | Deathwind: depends how technical of a source you want it to be. |
| 07:14.28 | RockGtrSeattle | well, the thing I want the most - the JVM - is what runs the worst... so I'll hopefully get a 5500 soon. |
| 07:14.37 | Deathwind | cdm: well their whole "all AMD procs catch on fire!" thing from a while ago just kinda turned me off from them, so I take anything I read there with a grain of salt |
| 07:16.38 | treke|home | well if you take the fan and heatsink off they probably do all catch fire |
| 07:16.39 | treke|home | :) |
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| 07:38.17 | gaurdian | ok, not being a linux guy. I just installed rc2, how do I format the SD card to ext2fs ? |
| 07:41.02 | guised | fsck |
| 07:41.08 | guised | ibot fsck |
| 07:41.09 | | No devices specified to be checked! |
| 07:41.13 | guised | ibot ext2 |
| 07:41.14 | | well, ext2 is the filesystem needed to symlink items to the sd card (the command is mkfs.ext2) |
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| 07:43.26 | gaurdian | mkfs.ext2 /mnt/card /mnt/card is not a block special device |
| 07:44.22 | George- | you can't mkfs a mount point ;) |
| 07:44.24 | gaurdian | which block device do I format ? |
| 07:44.38 | George- | try mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1 ;) |
| 07:47.29 | TimRiker | or /dev/mmcda with the new hotplug mmc script. |
| 07:48.36 | gaurdian | whats the new script do ? |
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| 07:50.43 | krezel_ | *yawn* |
| 07:52.07 | guised | which ftp program should i use |
| 07:52.17 | guised | there was an opensource one that i really liked |
| 07:52.24 | guised | i can't rememember the name |
| 07:52.44 | guised | ibot ftp |
| 07:52.45 | | ftp is probably ftpsrv.exe at http://www.oohito.com/data/wince/FTPS006AP.ZIP, sources at http://www.oohito.com/data/wince/FTPS006D.ZIP, homepage at http://www.oohito.com/ |
| 07:53.16 | guised | ?? |
| 07:53.25 | guised | can anyone give me a hand? |
| 07:53.26 | guised | lol |
| 07:53.38 | XavierXeon | guised: ftp on the z or ftp on the pc (linux or windows) ? |
| 07:53.42 | George- | most people are asleep |
| 07:53.42 | krezel | sorry, i've been drinking |
| 07:53.48 | krezel | George-: or drunk |
| 07:53.50 | George- | and I should be asleep :) |
| 07:54.08 | guised | XX: on the pc |
| 07:54.09 | XavierXeon | come on guys its 9 am :) |
| 07:54.10 | George- | hahaha ;) |
| 07:54.15 | krezel | its 3 am here |
| 07:54.38 | XavierXeon | guised: linux or windows ? |
| 07:54.45 | guised | windows |
| 07:54.52 | krezel | guised: FTP client? |
| 07:54.59 | krezel | guised: LeechFTP |
| 07:55.10 | guised | leechftp... freeware |
| 07:55.17 | krezel | Leech is the shit |
| 07:55.20 | krezel | I wish they'd port it to linux |
| 07:55.48 | guised | thanks k |
| 07:56.10 | guised | krezel, whats the addy |
| 07:56.42 | krezel | go to download.com and do a search |
| 07:56.47 | XavierXeon | http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/leechftp/ |
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| 07:59.06 | guised | XX: thanks |
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| 07:59.30 | krezel | Are there any mail clients for the Z that do IMAP and dont suck? |
| 07:59.47 | krezel | preferalbly IMAP-SSL |
| 07:59.52 | guised | whats the port# for the Z? |
| 08:00.11 | krezel | ? |
| 08:00.14 | krezel | FTP? |
| 08:00.15 | krezel | 21 |
| 08:00.32 | XavierXeon | guised: 4242 unless you have installed some other ftp server |
| 08:00.37 | guised | ah |
| 08:00.39 | Bob256 | I just put OZ 3.1 on my z. How do I set up my proxy server? |
| 08:00.43 | krezel | oh |
| 08:00.45 | guised | they took the jumpx out of 3.1? |
| 08:00.58 | XavierXeon | krezel: there is no mail app for the z with imap that does not suck |
| 08:01.00 | guised | gotta get that out of the feed now, right? |
| 08:01.11 | George- | Bob256: export http_proxy=ip:port? |
| 08:01.38 | XavierXeon | Bob256: proxy for what app ? |
| 08:02.13 | Bob256 | opera |
| 08:02.47 | George- | opera on oz 3.1? |
| 08:03.03 | Bob256 | I ripped it of the sharp rom |
| 08:03.14 | George- | uhm |
| 08:03.21 | George- | last time I tried it seg faulted ;) |
| 08:03.24 | George- | did they fix that? |
| 08:03.28 | XavierXeon | Bob256: unless you find some settings in oprea ( i do not have it on my z) you should try to put the line George- suggeted in your .profile |
| 08:03.46 | Bob256 | Opera says "Could not locate remote server" |
| 08:04.05 | Bob256 | what browser do you use? |
| 08:04.12 | XavierXeon | Bob256: does a ping on that server work ? |
| 08:04.23 | XavierXeon | Bob256: i use konqueror |
| 08:06.23 | guised | ibot: feed |
| 08:06.24 | | i heard feed is a package repository. See http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds, http://www.zauruszone.com/feed, http://openzaurus.org/official/{stable,testing,unstable}/feed, or http://www.zauruii.com/zfi |
| 08:07.25 | Bob256 | do i set up the proxy server the same way as george said? |
| 08:08.04 | XavierXeon | Bob256: you can on a normal linux system, dont know if it will work on the zaurus |
| 08:08.20 | guised | XX: do u know where i can get a jumpx |
| 08:08.23 | guised | for the Z |
| 08:08.35 | XavierXeon | sharp or oz ? |
| 08:08.40 | guised | oz |
| 08:08.46 | guised | 3.1rc2 |
| 08:09.05 | TimRiker | gaurdian: new script will try to mount disc and part[1-4] not just part1 |
| 08:09.16 | TimRiker | it mounts the first one it finds. |
| 08:09.24 | XavierXeon | guised: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/stable/feed/ |
| 08:09.33 | tyranozaurus | export http_proxy=http://ip:port/ |
| 08:10.24 | George- | tyranozaurus: hrmm, I never put the http:// in ;) |
| 08:10.53 | tyranozaurus | dunno. i've never done it without the http:// bit :) maybe it works either way |
| 08:11.12 | tyranozaurus | you'd probably want the http:// bit if you're setting an ftp proxy though |
| 08:11.27 | XavierXeon | export ftp_proxy=http://ip:port is nice if you are behind a firewall :) |
| 08:11.36 | guised | what are op2's dependencies |
| 08:11.38 | George- | hahaha |
| 08:12.05 | gaurdian | in rc2 how do you remove apps youre not useing ? |
| 08:12.06 | tyranozaurus | so anyway... would ipkg update && upgrade convert my rc1 zaurus to rc2? |
| 08:13.00 | XavierXeon | guised: Depends: opie-base (0.9.1), libopie1 (0.9.1), libxine1 |
| 08:13.35 | XavierXeon | tyranozaurus: not unless you specify the rc2 feed |
| 08:14.03 | tyranozaurus | testing? |
| 08:14.10 | XavierXeon | tyranozaurus: and i do not know if the changed the kernel |
| 08:14.57 | tyranozaurus | gah, have they fixed the dns server config in rc2? it's really annoying |
| 08:16.46 | tyranozaurus | ohh... Upgrading oz-base on root from 2.1-2c to 3.1-rc2-1... |
| 08:21.54 | Bob256 | this is pissing me off. AQPkg works with my proxy. Opera can talk to computers on my network, but it wont go on the internet. |
| 08:23.48 | tyranozaurus | which method of setting proxy did you use? |
| 08:23.56 | tyranozaurus | and how did you start opera after that? |
| 08:25.02 | Bob256 | i typed export http_proxy=http://192.168.1.2:8080 and then i clicked on the opera icon |
| 08:25.29 | tyranozaurus | try running opera from the command line |
| 08:25.54 | tyranozaurus | if you click the icon, it probably doesn't inherit the same environment as your console |
| 08:26.22 | Bob256 | nope |
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| 08:32.10 | Bob256 | thanks, I got to rebot. |
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| 08:33.03 | George- | rebot? ;) |
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| 10:34.35 | effy | does anyone know if when I update my zaurus, will the update destroy the data already on my compactflash? |
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| 10:54.30 | SukoShi_ | effy: no |
| 11:24.34 | tyranozaurus | where is libopie11 ? |
| 11:24.55 | tyranozaurus | opie-base appears to depend on it, but i can't find it in the oz teting feed |
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| 11:43.16 | mark | hi George- |
| 11:43.28 | George- | hey mark |
| 11:43.31 | George- | I'm still in bed ;) |
| 11:44.06 | mark | hehe. /me has spent the morning hacking php code |
| 11:45.07 | George- | heh |
| 11:45.11 | George- | back to school tonight for me |
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| 12:31.51 | larios | hi |
| 12:32.16 | larios | some body knows that if i can put the open zaurus in a PC |
| 12:32.19 | larios | ???? |
| 12:34.47 | larios | hi???? |
| 12:37.53 | larios | hellllllllllllo ???????????????????? |
| 12:39.43 | mark | larios: are you on crack? |
| 12:45.53 | larios | jejeje |
| 12:45.55 | larios | nop |
| 12:45.58 | larios | im spanish |
| 12:45.59 | larios | jejeje |
| 12:46.15 | larios | I have a 4.86 ........ |
| 12:46.21 | larios | on 100 mhz |
| 12:46.35 | larios | and i will like that its work as a zaurus |
| 12:47.15 | larios | eh mark |
| 12:52.49 | mark | larios: no |
| 12:52.58 | mark | the Zaurus has completely different hardware |
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| 13:05.21 | mark | ljp: hiya |
| 13:05.34 | mark | someone was just here asking if they could run OpenZaurus on their PC |
| 13:07.31 | ljp | *blink blink* |
| 13:08.19 | ljp | oz on pc? |
| 13:08.27 | ljp | opie runs on x96 |
| 13:09.27 | mark | ljp: yeh but that wasn't the question :P |
| 13:10.15 | ljp | heh |
| 13:10.45 | ljp | it might run a little bit on an arm machine. |
| 13:11.07 | ljp | but you wouldnt get the joy of the buggy hardware |
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| 14:12.27 | George- | hello |
| 14:12.29 | George- | I'm back ;) |
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| 14:39.35 | pnis | hi |
| 14:42.30 | George- | hi |
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| 15:19.55 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:50.02 | George- | ibot go postal |
| 15:50.03 | | ACTION rampages, killing everyone in sight! |
| 15:50.33 | chouimat | ibot lart George- |
| 15:50.54 | james_lan-deskto | ~lart george- |
| 15:51.10 | George- | bleh |
| 15:51.12 | George- | STOP IT! :) |
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| 15:52.00 | james_lan-deskto | schoolyard attitude: "You started it." |
| 15:52.01 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:52.17 | George- | james_lan-deskto: lol |
| 15:53.02 | james_lan-deskto | nasty ibot :) |
| 15:53.05 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:53.39 | james_lan-deskto | that one isn't that good, you only need them once. |
| 15:53.42 | james_lan-deskto | then apt-get |
| 15:53.46 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:53.49 | George- | I don't have any debian CDs :) |
| 15:54.03 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:54.14 | chouimat | that one is good |
| 15:54.15 | George- | stop |
| 15:54.18 | George- | it |
| 15:54.18 | George- | lol |
| 15:54.20 | james_lan-deskto | NASTY! |
| 15:55.06 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:55.19 | George- | Uhm, I run Gentoo |
| 15:55.24 | George- | =P |
| 15:55.40 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:56.17 | George- | bleh |
| 15:57.22 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 15:58.40 | james_lan-deskto | ~rlart |
| 15:58.58 | chouimat | ulyx: lart someone |
| 15:59.02 | mark | ibot: lart ulyx |
| 15:59.04 | mark | ulyx: lart ibot |
| 15:59.13 | chouimat | ulyx lart mark |
| 15:59.18 | james_lan-deskto | ibot ulyx lart mark |
| 15:59.18 | | james_lan-deskto: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:59.22 | chouimat | ulyx lart mark |
| 15:59.29 | james_lan-deskto | ulyx ibot lart mark |
| 15:59.36 | chouimat | ulyx lart mark |
| 15:59.38 | mark | chouimat: lart George- |
| 15:59.46 | james_lan-deskto | can't get both of them to double team :( |
| 16:00.07 | james_lan-deskto | ewww |
| 16:00.42 | james_lan-deskto | ulyx lart chouimat |
| 16:00.46 | George- | bleh |
| 16:00.59 | George- | don't you have anything better to do? |
| 16:01.14 | chouimat | George-: nope |
| 16:01.30 | George- | go hax0r kde or something |
| 16:02.22 | mark | ibot: chicago steamer |
| 16:02.23 | | mark: no idea |
| 16:02.30 | mark | George-: so hows ur kernel developing going? |
| 16:02.36 | George- | append="hdc=ide-scsi" |
| 16:02.38 | George- | Is that correct? |
| 16:02.43 | mark | (y) |
| 16:02.43 | George- | mark: not done anything :) |
| 16:02.54 | mark | George-: lamo |
| 16:02.59 | George- | ? |
| 16:03.07 | George- | mark: shut up :) |
| 16:03.13 | George- | mark: I haven't had time |
| 16:03.33 | mark | George-: lamo |
| 16:03.43 | George- | lol |
| 16:04.00 | George- | mark: you go do some kernel devel then |
| 16:04.05 | George- | mark: go buy a series 5 and start hacking |
| 16:04.18 | George- | mark: you only do ports ;) |
| 16:04.45 | mark | yeh |
| 16:04.50 | mark | i'm too lazy to do anything else |
| 16:04.56 | George- | lol |
| 16:05.00 | George- | I'm too lazy to do ANYTHING :) |
| 16:05.06 | George- | Go finish KSaCo |
| 16:05.10 | George- | lazy arse |
| 16:05.10 | George- | ;) |
| 16:05.13 | mark | no |
| 16:05.51 | George- | bah, still cvs co'ing qt-copy |
| 16:06.00 | George- | This is a complete waste of productivity time |
| 16:06.03 | hardwire | for all you debian users having the problem with the Dynamic MMAP out of room error in apt.. |
| 16:06.05 | George- | I mean, I COULD be eating some food now |
| 16:06.11 | George- | in fact, I think I will |
| 16:06.19 | hardwire | put this in your /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 16:06.20 | hardwire | APT |
| 16:06.20 | hardwire | { |
| 16:06.20 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.20 | hardwire | }; |
| 16:06.24 | hardwire | something to that extent |
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| 16:06.40 | hardwire | debian is just getting too big :) |
| 16:07.18 | chouimat | hi hardwire |
| 16:07.24 | George- | hardwire: #debian? ;) |
| 16:07.36 | james_lan-deskto | anyone know if the sharp/ibm deal means that the Z will be based off ibm's new reference pda design? |
| 16:07.37 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 16:07.37 | George- | fsck |
| 16:07.40 | hardwire | George-: hah.. they probably don't care in there |
| 16:07.42 | George- | ssh is lagging over 802.11b |
| 16:07.56 | George- | esp when scp'ing my entire home dir over ;) |
| 16:07.59 | hardwire | George-: get your steel balls out of the way |
| 16:08.12 | George- | lol |
| 16:08.42 | hardwire | or your steel buns |
| 16:09.06 | George- | hrmm, my home dir on this computer is larger than the entire hdd on my k6-2 ;) |
| 16:09.43 | james_lan-deskto | It (IBMs ref) includes speech input, and such, given the deal sharp and ibm were making for an 'enterprise' zaurus. |
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| 16:13.03 | james_lan-deskto | anyn |
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| 16:13.27 | warmi | hi |
| 16:13.37 | james_lan-deskto | hi |
| 16:14.24 | chouimat | hi warmi |
| 16:14.53 | warmi | chouimat : nothing yet ? |
| 16:15.37 | chouimat | warmi: nope. |
| 16:15.43 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 16:16.02 | warmi | I will give then another 3 days or so and they I will inquire |
| 16:16.03 | George- | chouimat: can we have a cease fire? |
| 16:16.05 | ljp | thats not a very good lart |
| 16:16.08 | warmi | hehehe |
| 16:16.24 | George- | hey warmi |
| 16:16.37 | james_lan-deskto | plus the screenshots show qtopia, opera etc. or is this just ibm's implementation |
| 16:16.43 | chouimat | George-: I'm bored so I'm teasing you... you know I'm the channel bully |
| 16:17.05 | ljp | ~lart chouimat |
| 16:17.17 | chouimat | ulyx: lart ljp |
| 16:17.21 | George- | ibot change 590 GBP to USD |
| 16:17.44 | ljp | ha ha, we have a bigger number |
| 16:18.31 | George- | lol |
| 16:18.41 | warmi | George- : do you have a picture of your queen on your currency ? |
| 16:18.53 | warmi | I don't think I ever seen British Pound .. |
| 16:18.56 | George- | ibot change 3000 GBP to USD |
| 16:19.03 | George- | warmi: yes |
| 16:19.19 | George- | FACK |
| 16:19.27 | George- | Is that how much my lappie cost?!?!?! |
| 16:19.40 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 16:20.14 | ljp | you dont want to see the queen.. she's uuuuuugly |
| 16:20.27 | warmi | George- : yeah, I told you like 10 K times that Apple stuff is insanely expensive |
| 16:20.37 | George- | warmi: argh |
| 16:20.50 | George- | warmi: Thank god I got it for 1400 GBP :) |
| 16:21.07 | George- | warmi: I got tax off ;) That equals approx 57.5% |
| 16:21.49 | warmi | ljp : well, note like Washinghton is all that hot you know .. |
| 16:22.29 | chouimat | I want one: http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/boxer/boxer_t.shtml |
| 16:22.35 | warmi | George- : well, so to summarize that expensive Apple hardware combined with insane taxation system in UK makes it all just pathetic |
| 16:22.41 | warmi | you need a revolution or something |
| 16:22.51 | George- | warmi: lol |
| 16:22.58 | chouimat | warmi: look at the taxation here in Canada |
| 16:23.04 | George- | warmi: 17.5% VAT, and 40% business tax |
| 16:23.21 | warmi | chouimat : yeah, I know Canada is not all that better than UK |
| 16:23.46 | warmi | I am paying around 20% taxes + something like 6% state tax |
| 16:23.58 | warmi | of course there are various small and no so small hidden taxes |
| 16:24.03 | warmi | but that's always the case |
| 16:24.09 | chouimat | warmi: 7 % GST and 7.5% PST, and in all it's 53% taxes |
| 16:24.26 | warmi | but my buddy - he pays almost 30% taxes while being in the same tax bracket - |
| 16:24.34 | warmi | the difference -> he is alone and I have a familiy |
| 16:25.26 | warmi | ljp: you there ? |
| 16:25.37 | chouimat | warmi: ok thanks I will put Bob on my taxes declaration .... |
| 16:26.03 | warmi | chouimat : Bob ? |
| 16:26.04 | warmi | heh |
| 16:26.15 | chouimat | warmi: my cat :) |
| 16:26.36 | warmi | ah , yeah , these days cats are getting credit cards so might as well try that |
| 16:26.36 | mewyn | god damnt |
| 16:27.02 | George- | bah |
| 16:27.06 | George- | ssh is borking up now |
| 16:27.08 | George- | bleh |
| 16:27.09 | George- | :( |
| 16:27.16 | George- | Too much bandwidth being stolen by ssh |
| 16:27.22 | warmi | this is how tux starts his day "god damn" |
| 16:27.22 | warmi | heh |
| 16:27.54 | warmi | does SSH use encryption and compression or just encryption ? |
| 16:28.02 | chouimat | ulyx: lart mewyn |
| 16:28.09 | George- | just encryption I thinik |
| 16:28.35 | ljp | ssh can use compression |
| 16:29.04 | warmi | ljp: are you going to include sales of your apps on your tax form ? |
| 16:29.04 | ljp | in ssh.config Compression yes CompressionLevel 9 |
| 16:29.12 | warmi | that's what I am wondering . |
| 16:29.16 | warmi | should I or should I not . |
| 16:29.17 | warmi | :-) |
| 16:29.24 | ljp | legally you should |
| 16:29.30 | warmi | no shit :-) |
| 16:29.35 | warmi | but will you ? |
| 16:29.48 | warmi | it all came to around $1000 or so |
| 16:30.00 | ljp | sure, I make squat as it is |
| 16:30.14 | warmi | well, but you do pay taxes , right ? |
| 16:30.26 | chouimat | warmi: did you get good sells? |
| 16:30.35 | warmi | I just read recently that aroun 40% of Americans don't pay any taxes at all |
| 16:30.40 | ljp | yes, but if you DO mention it, your hardware becomes tax write off, as well as internet connection |
| 16:31.01 | warmi | chouimat : well, good enough for me - I wasn't planning to make a living out of it - but it wasn't a hit or anything like that |
| 16:31.29 | warmi | ljp: I guess - but then I would have to fill out a special form in adition to my simple W2 |
| 16:31.34 | warmi | uhh - pain in the ass |
| 16:31.48 | chouimat | warmi: good. and here in canada I can pass my rent on my taxe report as I'm working home |
| 16:31.54 | ljp | I do anyway.. its no big deal really |
| 16:32.18 | ljp | here, only a % of rent for work at home people |
| 16:32.36 | warmi | people should sometimes get a good look at their check and actually see how much is being taken out by the goverment |
| 16:32.39 | warmi | it is scary |
| 16:32.53 | chouimat | ljp: same here but I lost a room for that |
| 16:32.57 | warmi | I could buy myself a new computer for that every damn month |
| 16:34.37 | ljp | ya, and think.. the 'Boston Tea Party' was over less then 1% tax |
| 16:35.13 | warmi | uh , but back then they were all "fresh" and with "ideals" ( and significantly less fat ) |
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| 16:36.05 | chouimat | warmi: and didn't sue McDonalds |
| 16:36.24 | warmi | these days all these so called "soccer moms" will make sure that Democratc get elected every time their "favourite" programs are being cut |
| 16:36.50 | warmi | chouimat : yeah, that too - but so far it is McDonalds 1 - Fat,Stupid people + Lawyers 0 |
| 16:37.02 | mewyn | and thank goodness |
| 16:37.52 | chouimat | warmi: we spoke of that in switzerland and we concluded that people need another chart beside the rights one, the deeds charts |
| 16:38.06 | warmi | hehe |
| 16:38.13 | warmi | yeah, but this is not over yet |
| 16:38.14 | chouimat | warmi: only one rules ... take your fucking responsability |
| 16:38.47 | warmi | they will look for another chance in some other place and once some judge agrees to a trial - they WILL find a jury that will convict McDonald |
| 16:39.06 | warmi | juries in this age of lack of responsibility is a joke |
| 16:39.59 | mewyn | what's a joke is people who can't blame themselves for their problems |
| 16:40.11 | mewyn | everyone's known that fast food s |
| 16:40.16 | mewyn | isn't good for you |
| 16:40.35 | warmi | well, everyone knows that fast food in large quantities is not good for you |
| 16:40.36 | chouimat | warmi: come one, I took 40lbs last year, and I'm taking my responsabilities .. lack of exercises and bad eating habit .... I won't sue anybody for that |
| 16:41.07 | warmi | yeah, I was 180 and 5.11 till 2001 |
| 16:41.27 | warmi | then I quite smoking and gained 30 lbs - now I am working my way back toward 190 or so |
| 16:41.34 | warmi | quite=quit |
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| 16:42.00 | warmi | yeah, of course - I mean it is all lawyers |
| 16:42.15 | warmi | they are the ones who literally make a case for stupidity every time they argue this stuff |
| 16:42.15 | chouimat | warmi: before my divorce I was 163 and 5.8, in 2001 I was 128 and I'm now 165 |
| 16:43.10 | warmi | 165 is not bad |
| 16:43.21 | mewyn | warmi: it's not unusual to put on weight when one quits smoking |
| 16:43.22 | chouimat | warmi: took me 18 months to lost 35lbs and it took me 10 months to take it back |
| 16:43.24 | warmi | my coworker is trying Atkins diet - but he has a lot of stuff to lose |
| 16:43.33 | warmi | he is like 5.10 and 300 lbs |
| 16:43.41 | warmi | chouimat: hehehe |
| 16:43.42 | chouimat | warmi: I know but I got a tire so I don't see my wang |
| 16:43.58 | warmi | I am working every day at the "Tribune Health Center" hehe |
| 16:44.25 | warmi | mewyn : yeah , but not unusual to gain 10 lbs not 30 or 40 |
| 16:44.26 | warmi | heheh |
| 16:44.38 | warmi | I was just eathing candies and all this stuff |
| 16:44.56 | chouimat | warmi: I'm planning to buy some weight to have something to do while my contracts are compiling |
| 16:45.03 | warmi | and , also, since I turned 30 things seem a bit different - it is harder to lose weight :-) |
| 16:45.25 | chouimat | warmi: thanks god, I have a year before that :) |
| 16:45.25 | mewyn | i need to get into shape |
| 16:45.40 | warmi | mewyn : you are like 22 - at that age it should be relatively easy |
| 16:45.48 | warmi | even at 32 is not bad |
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| 16:46.07 | warmi | but once you are in your late 40s .. uh - supposedly very hard to lose weight |
| 16:46.14 | mewyn | yah, the problem is i need someone to work out with. if i don't have that, i loose interest and stop |
| 16:46.22 | mewyn | brb |
| 16:46.35 | warmi | well, then run around with your dog every day or something like that |
| 16:46.44 | chouimat | warmi: yup, you need to check other thing at that age, salt, cholesterol etc ... |
| 16:46.53 | warmi | yeah |
| 16:46.55 | warmi | heh |
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| 16:47.04 | warmi | that's why it is better to get in shape before that |
| 16:47.33 | mewyn | there |
| 16:47.33 | chouimat | warmi: I walk ... my friends and the bar I go is about 30 to 50 minutes walk from here |
| 16:47.40 | warmi | tux: I said, you can round around with your dog or cat every day |
| 16:47.44 | warmi | perhaps not with you cat :-) |
| 16:47.56 | chouimat | mewyn: me too I need someone to go to the gym |
| 16:48.21 | warmi | chouimat : yeah ,that is a good excercise |
| 16:48.29 | arete | oogling the sexy gym bunnies is good enough =) |
| 16:48.40 | warmi | see, my motivation is that I go to gym during my work time |
| 16:48.41 | chouimat | warmi: yup, and I drink my 8 beers after that |
| 16:48.50 | warmi | so I am getting paid for excersizing :-) |
| 16:49.08 | mewyn | warmi: well, due to my back, i need to do low impact exercizes |
| 16:49.25 | chouimat | warmi: I know people that are getting paid for getting laid :) |
| 16:49.30 | warmi | how about biking ? |
| 16:49.53 | mewyn | i love biking, but again, i need someone to do it with :) |
| 16:49.56 | mark | warmi: repton has hit handango at last |
| 16:50.09 | warmi | mark: today ? |
| 16:50.12 | mark | warmi: yeh |
| 16:50.21 | mewyn | if i plan on doing it myself, i'll prolly not do it. if i plan with someone, i keep it |
| 16:50.24 | warmi | mewyn : man .. you got to just suck it up and do it yourself |
| 16:50.25 | warmi | ;-) |
| 16:51.17 | chouimat | is saddle ok when we speak of the bike seat? |
| 16:51.27 | warmi | mark: yeah, I see it |
| 16:51.32 | George- | moo |
| 16:51.33 | warmi | mark: good luck then |
| 16:51.49 | warmi | mark: if your chess game still selling well ? |
| 16:52.03 | mark | warmi: come down a bit, but still fairly good |
| 16:52.04 | warmi | chouimat : hehehe |
| 16:52.23 | warmi | mark: well, how many sales you got altogether so far ? |
| 16:52.24 | chouimat | warmi: need to buy a new one |
| 16:52.27 | warmi | more /less |
| 16:52.41 | warmi | chouimat : you don't have any healt club around ? |
| 16:53.02 | chouimat | warmi: yup, but I don't like that kind of place |
| 16:53.17 | warmi | yeah, I know what you talking about |
| 16:53.39 | warmi | I am lucky to attend ,small - Tribune ( my company only) employes limited place |
| 16:53.43 | mewyn | warmi: one thing, if i do manage to go myself, i usually go to Busse woods over in schaumburg, and i'll end up stopping and sitting up against a tree all day :) |
| 16:53.58 | warmi | I usually go aroun 3-4 and there are at most 2-3 people there |
| 16:54.04 | warmi | so it is not crowded |
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| 16:54.48 | warmi | mewyn : it used to be quite normal but these days with snipers running around someone might report you to police |
| 16:54.49 | warmi | :-) |
| 16:55.16 | warmi | btw .. here in Chicago they close parks ( or forests) at 9 pm |
| 16:55.35 | warmi | I fucking couldn't believe that when I saw it for the first time |
| 16:55.37 | mewyn | in the burbs it's dusk |
| 16:55.40 | warmi | closing forest at 9 pm ? |
| 16:55.42 | warmi | wtf is that |
| 16:56.09 | warmi | forest is a forest |
| 16:56.11 | mewyn | being too lazy to keep an eye in it |
| 16:56.42 | warmi | anyway, I guess you have to be a bilionaire and basically purchase your own litte forest |
| 16:56.47 | warmi | then you can enjoy it any time you want |
| 16:58.23 | warmi | mewyn : you like skating ? |
| 16:58.27 | warmi | like ice skating ? |
| 16:58.30 | treke|home | warmi: yeah because it hasnt gotten along on its own for thousands of years, we need to watch them :) |
| 16:58.35 | chouimat | warmi: in montreal, the forest time is split in 2, the day go to the weeds smokers and the night goes to the gays |
| 16:58.39 | mewyn | yah, but you have to make sure you get a good forest. i have one in my back yard, but it's crappy. there's no grassy spots, it's always got tons of mosquitos, always swampy, and has nowhere to sit |
| 16:58.43 | warmi | treke : hehehe |
| 16:58.43 | mewyn | warmi: not reall |
| 16:58.48 | mewyn | really |
| 16:59.05 | warmi | chouimat : uh .. so I guess it is a good idea not to go there at night |
| 16:59.06 | warmi | heh |
| 16:59.21 | chouimat | warmi: exactly |
| 16:59.50 | AKRAGE | Hey - I am tring to connect my Zaurus to a Cell Phone to get Wireless Web. The cell has a Data cable (phone->Serial) and if I hook it up to my comp and create a dial up (ppp) account and dial #777 through COM1 I get online. So i think what if i get a serial - serial adapter and connect the Zaurus w/ data cable to phone w/data cable (Zaurus->Serial -> Adapter <- Serial <- Phone) |
| 16:59.59 | warmi | mewyn: yeah .. I guess - in Poland, the place where I grew up ( Prussia) had tons of lakes and rolling hills + forests |
| 17:00.09 | warmi | my town alone was surrounded by 3 lakes |
| 17:00.11 | AKRAGE | what do u'all think |
| 17:00.15 | warmi | it was cool time |
| 17:01.08 | AKRAGE | could i get wireless web that way???? |
| 17:02.38 | AKRAGE | i want to run pppd anyone know what the tty_name of the Zaurus data cable is? |
| 17:05.29 | troffasky | ttyS0 prolly |
| 17:05.35 | HighNo | it sure is |
| 17:05.43 | HighNo | but you may need a null modem connector |
| 17:05.43 | AKRAGE | k thaks |
| 17:05.51 | troffasky | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.35 | AKRAGE | null modem connector???? |
| 17:07.48 | troffasky | tx and rx lines swapped |
| 17:07.58 | AKRAGE | ahh |
| 17:08.09 | AKRAGE | so that would be part of the adapter |
| 17:08.16 | AKRAGE | serial - serial |
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| 17:09.09 | AKRAGE | u know where i can get one by any chance? |
| 17:09.25 | troffasky | anywhere you get serial cables |
| 17:09.36 | troffasky | or turn on your soldering iron... |
| 17:09.40 | AKRAGE | :) |
| 17:10.04 | AKRAGE | do u know a program that could use to connect and dial #777 on ttyS0 (data cable)? |
| 17:10.10 | AKRAGE | other then pppd |
| 17:10.23 | AKRAGE | cause i dont know what to do after i connect |
| 17:10.34 | AKRAGE | i mean sure i can run pppd |
| 17:10.44 | AKRAGE | that would connect but then what do i send |
| 17:11.05 | AKRAGE | I need some kind of modem script right? |
| 17:12.10 | chouimat | warmi: International Politic == High Order Penis Measurment Contest |
| 17:12.46 | hardwire | my cats like dog food |
| 17:12.51 | hardwire | a lot |
| 17:13.42 | HighNo | AKRAGE: yep |
| 17:14.02 | troffasky | chouimat: yep |
| 17:14.14 | HighNo | hardwire: my Z runs c64-software |
| 17:14.18 | HighNo | a lot !!! :) |
| 17:14.20 | warmi | chouimat; well, the difference is that your average "Penis Measurment Contest" does not end with a war and thousands of people dead |
| 17:14.41 | HighNo | warmi: depends on sizes... :) |
| 17:14.41 | AKRAGE | HighNo: will pppd execute windows modem scrips? |
| 17:14.47 | chouimat | warmi: I know |
| 17:15.37 | HighNo | AKRAGE: no, it wont. but go ahead and google for some linux pppd info |
| 17:15.44 | HighNo | it should all be there |
| 17:16.14 | warmi | I remember people used 3rd party app to create scripts for pppd |
| 17:16.19 | warmi | I forgot its name |
| 17:16.28 | AKRAGE | :( |
| 17:16.28 | warmi | it was somehting like "chat" or "talk" |
| 17:16.31 | warmi | I don't remember |
| 17:16.47 | chouimat | warmi: chat |
| 17:16.57 | warmi | last time I used modem was in like 1998 or so |
| 17:17.02 | HighNo | :) |
| 17:17.07 | warmi | on Linux that is |
| 17:17.33 | warmi | yeah, but there should be alot of info available on the net |
| 17:17.48 | warmi | basically this was used to control dialing and then authentication etc .. |
| 17:17.51 | HighNo | and we mean A LOT! |
| 17:18.19 | AKRAGE | wil the comp "know its online" |
| 17:18.29 | AKRAGE | i mean will opera run? |
| 17:18.37 | HighNo | everything will work |
| 17:18.39 | AKRAGE | afer i run pppd with the script |
| 17:18.45 | AKRAGE | k |
| 17:18.47 | HighNo | but you must set a dfault route |
| 17:18.52 | chouimat | hmmm someone need to port wvdial to the zaurus |
| 17:19.04 | warmi | yeah, of course, if your script will set the DNS and route correctly you will rock |
| 17:19.05 | HighNo | well, you wont need to when you call up an isp |
| 17:19.20 | warmi | it is no different than using modem under standard , desktop Linux |
| 17:19.42 | warmi | yeah, right - some of the will set DNS but some won't |
| 17:19.46 | warmi | I at least it used to be like that |
| 17:19.52 | warmi | perhaps it is different now |
| 17:20.18 | warmi | I need wireless for my Z |
| 17:20.39 | AKRAGE | how can i set options like compresson - or server type? all in the script?? |
| 17:21.02 | warmi | no , this stuff is handled by PPPD |
| 17:21.06 | warmi | that's part of PPP protocol |
| 17:21.16 | warmi | at least I think it is :-) |
| 17:21.38 | warmi | I think script was used fro authentication and dialing only |
| 17:21.59 | HighNo | right |
| 17:22.33 | warmi | AKRAGE :http://www.aleph1.co.uk/armlinux/book/net.html |
| 17:22.44 | HighNo | although there is an authentification in ppp itself, it was not commonly used for a long time but is standard now (PAP, CHAP) |
| 17:23.14 | HighNo | chat scripts were used where there was clear text authentification on some dialup-server long ago |
| 17:23.26 | warmi | yeah, and not soo long ago |
| 17:23.27 | warmi | hehe |
| 17:23.40 | warmi | I remember my ISP had unix dialup server |
| 17:23.49 | warmi | which means we were using clear text authentication |
| 17:24.14 | HighNo | jepp, those big sun dialup-servers were common those days |
| 17:24.33 | AKRAGE | :) thanks |
| 17:24.41 | warmi | I remember in 1996 or so only NT run dialup servers were using CHAP and in fact it was using MS-CHAP |
| 17:25.00 | hardwire | CHAPS MY ASS! |
| 17:25.09 | warmi | but that's ancient history |
| 17:25.40 | warmi | these days I surft the net at blazing speeds courtesy of Telocity and now speakeasy |
| 17:26.02 | hardwire | I spent a few hours hooking up a ppp server that would work with windows XP dialing into a linux box over a serial line that is fed over a satellite |
| 17:26.11 | warmi | 1.5 downstream - 128 upstream +1 static ip - all that for $50 |
| 17:26.15 | hardwire | just to find out that on the remote side of the sat they didn't even have a computer |
| 17:26.23 | warmi | hehehe |
| 17:26.48 | hardwire | I wanna go with the newer cable deal here in town |
| 17:26.57 | hardwire | 3 meg down 386 k up |
| 17:27.03 | warmi | yeah, thanks to my connection spam downloads real fast these days |
| 17:27.06 | hardwire | its like 20 dollars more a month |
| 17:27.50 | warmi | yeah, I guess but does cable offer static IPs, ability to run anything you want (DNS, ftp, www server) - everything is open - no questions asked as long as it is not commercial ? |
| 17:28.04 | AKRAGE | depends |
| 17:28.10 | AKRAGE | minde does'nt |
| 17:28.18 | AKRAGE | they just say NO WAY |
| 17:28.30 | warmi | and cable tends to suffer from the problem of "excesively shared connections " |
| 17:28.50 | chouimat | warmi: not here, i'm the only one on the line :) |
| 17:28.50 | warmi | AKRAGE: but you run it anyway ? |
| 17:29.15 | hardwire | warmi: my ip hasn't changed in a year |
| 17:29.19 | hardwire | its not static |
| 17:29.23 | warmi | chouimat : wait till your neighbours get witht the times |
| 17:29.23 | hardwire | it just hasn't changed |
| 17:29.27 | warmi | then you will suffer |
| 17:29.33 | hardwire | and I have so muchs hit streaming in its not even funny |
| 17:29.36 | hardwire | much shit |
| 17:29.36 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:29.41 | AKRAGE | WARMI: yep - run it anyway |
| 17:29.53 | AKRAGE | FTP and Apache |
| 17:29.58 | AKRAGE | :) |
| 17:30.02 | warmi | hardwire: well, I know but I like to be sure that my stuff runs all the time |
| 17:30.04 | AKRAGE | the ip basicly does not chage |
| 17:30.04 | hardwire | warmi: dsl would be nice.. except the 7mbps line is a little too expensive for my tastes |
| 17:30.07 | chouimat | warmi: hehe, i'm in the poorest part of Quebec City so ... |
| 17:30.12 | warmi | and $50 is a small price to pay for that |
| 17:30.15 | hardwire | warmi: I am pretty damn sure :) |
| 17:30.19 | hardwire | just in case I am not sure |
| 17:30.27 | hardwire | I have dyndns stuff backing me up |
| 17:30.46 | warmi | yeah, I guess |
| 17:30.47 | hardwire | I would really dig dsl tho |
| 17:30.54 | hardwire | lower latency non shared |
| 17:31.11 | hardwire | we also have a wireless provider in the area |
| 17:31.13 | warmi | well, it is shared , just further down the line :-) |
| 17:31.14 | hardwire | but he is an idiot |
| 17:31.25 | hardwire | if my cable ever goes down I can just hack thru him |
| 17:31.48 | hardwire | warmi: but the cmts stations are shared |
| 17:31.52 | hardwire | total of typical 9mbps per cmts |
| 17:32.07 | warmi | which is fine , i don't have any problems with my dsl |
| 17:32.22 | warmi | never slows down - if it does then it is backbone problem or something like that |
| 17:32.29 | hardwire | exactly |
| 17:32.41 | hardwire | we have a local dsl provider with waaay too much fiber going to denver |
| 17:32.49 | hardwire | if I ever get mo money I am gonna get dsl |
| 17:32.50 | warmi | hehehe |
| 17:32.59 | warmi | how much you would have to pay for that ? |
| 17:33.09 | hardwire | hooold on lemme check |
| 17:33.20 | hardwire | I basically want the 7mbps line |
| 17:33.50 | warmi | well, you gonna pay for that |
| 17:33.54 | warmi | that's for sure |
| 17:34.01 | hardwire | http://www.frii.com/services/nendsl.html#adsl72 |
| 17:34.01 | hardwire | $139 per month |
| 17:34.10 | hardwire | for one I can afford |
| 17:34.24 | warmi | why do you need so much bandwith ? |
| 17:34.25 | hardwire | 389 for 7M down |
| 17:34.30 | hardwire | warmi: I just do |
| 17:34.33 | warmi | I mean, 1.5 is more than good enough for me |
| 17:34.35 | warmi | hehe |
| 17:34.47 | warmi | unless you are watching movies and stuff |
| 17:34.48 | hardwire | if I could have the 2.3M up 2.3M down |
| 17:34.50 | hardwire | that would rule |
| 17:34.56 | warmi | oh yeah |
| 17:35.10 | warmi | my upstream 128 is kind of on a slow side |
| 17:35.24 | hardwire | yeh |
| 17:35.29 | warmi | I am thinking of upgrading to 386 or so |
| 17:35.33 | chouimat|away | my neighburg are stocking more beers than a bar today |
| 17:35.36 | hardwire | so for 20 more a month I can go from 256 up to 384 |
| 17:35.40 | hardwire | and 1.5 down to 3.0 |
| 17:35.44 | warmi | chouimat|away : why is that ? |
| 17:35.56 | hardwire | which is pretty damn competative |
| 17:36.04 | chouimat|away | warmi: superbowl |
| 17:36.07 | warmi | hardwire: yeah .. it is |
| 17:36.16 | warmi | chouimat|away : ah that thing ... |
| 17:36.36 | warmi | I never watched it and I don't plan on watching any time soon :-) |
| 17:37.09 | warmi | but I am not a real American so .. I am very much an exception of the rule |
| 17:37.10 | chouimat|away | warmi: I just see then entering their appartment with 8 24 |
| 17:37.32 | warmi | chouimat|away I didn't know US football was popular in Canada |
| 17:37.43 | warmi | I thought Canada was more about soccer and hockey |
| 17:38.11 | chouimat|away | warmi: it is, same with hockey,baseball and other crap |
| 17:38.57 | warmi | yeah, I guess it makes sense - you guys can pick up most of US TV channels etc .. |
| 17:39.13 | warmi | well, I am not crazy about sports anyway |
| 17:39.29 | chouimat|away | warmi: but the worst it's golf tv ...man 24h of golf??? |
| 17:39.30 | warmi | I just watch Soccer World Cup every 4 years - that 's about it |
| 17:39.41 | warmi | chouimat|away : yeah ... I second |
| 17:39.42 | warmi | hehe |
| 17:40.24 | warmi | or , my buddy from India, he will literally watch crickiet for hours on his computer using RealPlayer and we all know how much fun is that ( watching real player contents) |
| 17:40.42 | chouimat|away | warmi: was in a bar, drinking like an irish :) and i saw a good 45 minutes reportage on the difference between golf balls |
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| 17:41.38 | chouimat|away | warmi: hehe. last week, late at night, i watched a curling competition ... |
| 17:41.38 | warmi | yeah, I guess this is the same as with computers - I am sure many people are puzzled that we can talk about this stuff for hours |
| 17:41.57 | chouimat|away | warmi: exactly |
| 17:42.06 | warmi | ah yeah - people sliding stones - actually more interesting than golf if you ask me |
| 17:42.33 | chouimat|away | warmi: yup. when you begin to grasp thing, it's quite challenging intellectualy ... |
| 17:43.03 | warmi | alright , it is time for my weekly visit to my favourite Polish food store - got to stock up for another week |
| 17:43.07 | warmi | see you later |
| 17:43.18 | chouimat|away | warmi: better to watch curling than fantasy skating |
| 17:43.44 | chouimat|away | ulyx: lart mark |
| 17:43.49 | chouimat|away | ulyx: lart George- |
| 17:47.10 | chouimat|away | i'm off |
| 17:48.08 | mark | c ya |
| 17:48.10 | George- | good ;) |
| 17:48.14 | George- | FUCK OFF! :) |
| 17:48.56 | chouimat|away | George-: I'm going outside cause tomorrow will be as cold as the 13th circle of hell so ... |
| 17:49.03 | chouimat|away | ulyx: lart George- |
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| 18:08.04 | George- | hey |
| 18:10.45 | George- | I hate ksirc |
| 18:10.48 | George- | ... |
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| 18:14.03 | mark | George-: i'm sure it hates you just as much :P |
| 18:14.10 | George- | mark: of course ;) |
| 18:14.27 | kergoth | ibot: pester George- |
| 18:14.29 | | George-: PESTER PESTER PESTER! |
| 18:14.29 | George- | mark: I'm in kde 3.0.4, and i don't have my beloved keramik! |
| 18:14.32 | George- | lmao |
| 18:14.36 | George- | kergoth: that's a new one ;) |
| 18:15.47 | mark | George-: i care |
| 18:17.39 | George- | mark: I knew you wouldn't :) |
| 18:21.55 | treke|home | George-: good |
| 18:22.04 | treke|home | George-: keramik is evil |
| 18:22.06 | treke|home | kde is evil |
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| 18:24.48 | treke|home | there is no accounting for taste |
| 18:25.03 | pnis | hi kergoth |
| 18:25.13 | XavierXeon | i am well known for having a really bad taste :) |
| 18:27.25 | kergoth | hey pnis.. i updated the feed last night, and realized people on the old kernel are going to see unresoled symbols.. its harmless.. but amusing.. remember the unexported m62332 symbols? ;) |
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| 18:29.51 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:30.00 | George- | argh |
| 18:31.54 | mark | why do we have 3x the number of bots larting George- now? |
| 18:32.14 | treke|home | mark: because 1 bot isnt enough |
| 18:32.30 | George- | mark: I was wondering the same thing |
| 18:32.31 | chouimat | mark: because the superbowl day is the George-larting day |
| 18:32.38 | George- | mark: It's bloody annoying |
| 18:33.20 | mark | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:33.25 | mark | treke|ho |
| 18:33.32 | treke|home | the superbowl is today? |
| 18:33.33 | mark | treke|home: yeh, 3x the bots 3x the fun ;) |
| 18:33.42 | mark | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:33.51 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:33.55 | George- | bleh |
| 18:34.01 | George- | ulyx: lart mark |
| 18:34.02 | kergoth | ipkg needs Reccomends |
| 18:34.03 | George- | ibot lart mark |
| 18:34.05 | George- | ulyx: lart mark |
| 18:34.09 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:34.26 | mark | can we rename this to #george-lart? |
| 18:34.46 | kergoth | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:34.51 | chouimat | kergoth: you must get on of these |
| 18:34.56 | kergoth | ibot: pester George- |
| 18:34.57 | | George-: PESTER PESTER PESTER! |
| 18:35.22 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:35.39 | mark | chouimat: lart George- |
| 18:36.20 | chouimat | that feels good!!! |
| 18:36.44 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:36.58 | mark | hah, read mojo there by mistake |
| 18:37.39 | mark | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.22 | mewyn | " ", the final frontier |
| 18:38.25 | George- | ffs |
| 18:38.34 | George- | stop it!!! |
| 18:38.35 | George- | dammit |
| 18:38.41 | treke|home | ulyx, lart George- |
| 18:38.56 | mark | mewyn: :) |
| 18:38.58 | mewyn | mmmm. mt doom |
| 18:39.01 | mark | awww poor George- |
| 18:39.07 | treke|home | mewyn: thats doom, not dew |
| 18:39.14 | mark | Sugar: give George- a hug |
| 18:39.19 | mewyn | dew sucks :) |
| 18:39.25 | mewyn | i'm a cola person |
| 18:39.36 | mewyn | which reminds me... i'm thirsty |
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| 18:40.33 | mark | chouimat: we're being nice to George- now |
| 18:40.58 | treke|home | mark: why would we do that? |
| 18:41.06 | George- | argh! fucking cd burner! |
| 18:41.23 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:42.43 | George- | grmbl, OPC keeps failing |
| 18:44.07 | George- | arghhhh |
| 18:44.11 | George- | It's refusing to work ;( |
| 18:45.06 | George- | perhaps that's the problem with getting unbranded CD-Rs ;( |
| 18:45.34 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:45.43 | George- | hrmm |
| 18:45.51 | George- | Evil burner |
| 18:46.48 | George- | hrmm, it's working now |
| 18:51.01 | mark | when you combust something, the water you get out is as gas yes? |
| 18:51.37 | George- | yes |
| 18:51.44 | kergoth | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:52.14 | George- | kergoth: stop it dammit ;) |
| 18:52.34 | George- | I know I'm a complete annoyance, but do I deserve larting 24/7? ;) |
| 18:52.45 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:52.51 | George- | bah |
| 18:52.52 | mark | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:52.58 | George- | hrmm |
| 18:53.00 | mark | what other bots do we have? |
| 18:53.03 | George- | This is unfair |
| 18:53.04 | mark | Sugar: lart George- |
| 18:53.14 | George- | Sugar: give mark a beating |
| 18:53.17 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:53.18 | mark | Sugar: give George- a friendly whack round the head |
| 18:53.25 | George- | Sugar give mark a hiding |
| 18:53.30 | mark | Sugar: give George- a hug |
| 18:53.37 | mark | kergoth: lart George- |
| 18:53.41 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:54.18 | George- | kergoth: asshole! :) |
| 18:54.31 | kergoth | George-: what else is nwe? |
| 18:54.42 | George- | lol |
| 18:54.45 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:55.36 | kergoth | ahh! it burns us! those nasty peoples twisted it! |
| 18:55.56 | George- | lmao |
| 18:56.03 | George- | now now smeagol ;) |
| 18:57.54 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:58.06 | George- | ulyx: lart chouimat |
| 18:58.12 | George- | lmao |
| 18:58.54 | mark | oh we do like to lart George- |
| 18:58.56 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 18:59.08 | mark | wtf is a 2 guage prince albert? |
| 18:59.26 | George- | yeh, wtf IS a 2 guage prince albert? |
| 19:00.45 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 19:00.56 | mewyn | a prince albert is a piercing in a certian male body part |
| 19:01.02 | George- | on a mac??? |
| 19:01.08 | mark | mewyn: hah |
| 19:01.27 | chouimat | George-: yup the old Windows NT 3.51 for PPC |
| 19:01.54 | George- | chouimat: that doesn't run on a mac... |
| 19:02.03 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
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| 19:02.10 | George- | chouimat: that's for the old ibm ppc servers ;) |
| 19:02.10 | mark | ibot: rlart |
| 19:02.19 | mark | damn, sorry KhensU, was hoping for George- |
| 19:02.31 | mewyn | ibot lart ulyx |
| 19:02.42 | mewyn | ulyx lart ibot |
| 19:02.46 | mark | ibot: lart George- for being an idiot |
| 19:03.08 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- for being an idiot |
| 19:03.37 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:03.54 | kergoth | oh no! its the frown! |
| 19:04.12 | George- | lol |
| 19:05.38 | mark | Sugar: foo George- |
| 19:05.43 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:06.07 | George- | Sugar rape mark |
| 19:06.08 | chouimat | mark: gives <who> an atomic wedgie |
| 19:06.18 | mark | chouimat: hehe |
| 19:06.44 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:06.53 | mark | whats a chicago steamer? |
| 19:07.00 | kergoth | ibot: pester George- |
| 19:07.01 | | George-: PESTER PESTER PESTER! |
| 19:07.05 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:07.20 | mark | mewyn: chicago steamer? |
| 19:07.49 | mewyn | never heard of it |
| 19:07.58 | mark | ulyx: chicago stamer |
| 19:07.59 | mark | ulyx: chicago steamer |
| 19:08.07 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:08.09 | mewyn | i only know prince albert because of the MTV spoof on the LotR |
| 19:08.45 | mark | cool we can addlarts to ulyx |
| 19:08.48 | mark | mewyn: heh, ok |
| 19:10.14 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:10.41 | kergoth | chouimat: know any good industrial bands? I need some more mussic |
| 19:11.23 | chouimat | kergoth: not really, I'm in a more progressive, progressive metal and progressive death this days |
| 19:11.42 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah, figured. thought id ask tho |
| 19:11.58 | chouimat | kergoth: try some gorguts |
| 19:12.31 | chouimat | kergoth: I can DCC you some but you're behind a firewall |
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| 19:19.33 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
| 19:19.44 | chouimat | ouch! |
| 19:20.14 | chouimat | poor George- |
| 19:22.35 | George- | stop it |
| 19:22.39 | George- | It's getting boring now |
| 19:24.04 | chouimat | ulyx lart George- |
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| 19:47.27 | pnis | kergoth: sorry i was havving dinner |
| 19:47.36 | pnis | kergoth: so I exported that symbol |
| 19:47.47 | pnis | kergoth: did I leave it out of the patch? |
| 19:47.53 | kergoth | nono |
| 19:47.54 | kergoth | what i mean is |
| 19:48.01 | kergoth | the new kernel mdule spackage includes the new sound modules |
| 19:48.08 | pnis | yes |
| 19:48.13 | kergoth | so users on the old kernel get the modules, but they get unresolved symbols due to the unexported symbol |
| 19:48.18 | kergoth | its harmless |
| 19:48.24 | pnis | he i see |
| 19:48.28 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:48.40 | pnis | well they should upgrade . |
| 19:48.41 | pnis | :) |
| 19:48.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:49.13 | pnis | or you know of a better way? |
| 19:49.37 | kergoth | nope |
| 19:49.56 | pnis | more serious would be if there are still major bugs in that driver |
| 19:49.59 | kergoth | well long term we need a new bootloader so we can install the kernel with ipkg, so new modules can depend on the kernel iteself's version :) |
| 19:50.03 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:50.13 | pnis | that would be nice |
| 19:50.36 | pnis | imho it's good that this can get tested, so later it can be used with confidence |
| 19:50.38 | pnis | in the new kernel |
| 19:50.41 | pnis | and wherever |
| 19:50.42 | HighNo | now THAT would be cool |
| 19:50.44 | kergoth | agreed |
| 19:50.48 | HighNo | very - geeky :) |
| 19:51.03 | treke|home | kergoth: be careful with a new bootloader. I dont suspect sharp will be as nice about it as CRL :) |
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| 19:51.18 | kergoth | treke|home: ah with regard to replacing brick'd units? |
| 19:51.24 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:51.26 | treke|home | yeah |
| 19:51.33 | kergoth | course i have the service manual, i could fix them myself |
| 19:51.36 | kergoth | but i doubt sharp would appreciate that |
| 19:51.38 | kergoth | :D |
| 19:51.45 | treke|home | hehe :) |
| 19:51.49 | pnis | :) so we can just send it to you than? |
| 19:52.09 | kergoth | yea, just need to hack the jtag onto my crdale |
| 19:52.17 | kergoth | which has been on the todo for a while |
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| 19:52.38 | pnis | sounds good |
| 19:52.41 | pnis | whatever jtag is:) |
| 19:52.46 | kergoth | ibot: jtag |
| 19:52.47 | | jtag is probably http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view/Main/jtag or http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ or order $20 usd dongles from http://www.aleph1.co.uk/armlinux/LART/ |
| 19:52.59 | kergoth | ibot: jtag is also Joint Test Action Group |
| 19:53.00 | | ACTION pries is also Joint Test Action Group 's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to is also Joint Test Action Group . |
| 19:53.07 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:53.15 | kergoth | i forgot about that |
| 19:53.22 | chouimat | kergoth: huh? |
| 19:53.23 | kergoth | ibot: jtag treke|home |
| 19:53.24 | | ACTION pries treke|home 's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to treke|home . |
| 19:53.33 | kergoth | ibot: brick treke|home |
| 19:53.35 | | ACTION installs a bad bootloader on treke|home and turns treke|home into a brick |
| 19:53.39 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:54.02 | pnis | ah nice, this jtag |
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| 19:57.19 | George- | ok, I'm outa here soon |
| 19:57.22 | George- | Back to school I go ;) |
| 19:57.53 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
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| 20:08.09 | mark | George-: bye |
| 20:11.39 | George- | ok, I'm outa here |
| 20:11.42 | George- | cya all |
| 20:11.44 | chouimat | ulyx: lart George- |
| 20:11.48 | mark | c ya George- |
| 20:11.49 | George- | have a lot of fun without me! |
| 20:11.50 | George- | =) |
| 20:11.57 | George- | mark: have fun with Repton! |
| 20:11.58 | chouimat | bye George- |
| 20:12.05 | mark | George-: what? |
| 20:12.06 | George- | fuck you chouimat ;) |
| 20:12.11 | mark | George-: i've finished it |
| 20:12.11 | pnis | bye George- |
| 20:12.16 | George- | ok |
| 20:12.18 | mark | George-: what fun am i gonna have with it? |
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| 20:12.21 | mark | George-: go buy it :P |
| 20:12.32 | pnis | what is repton? |
| 20:12.47 | mark | pnis: a game |
| 20:14.09 | mark | pnis: http://www.handango.com/sharp/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=423&jid=584D7E4E921X6F6C98D4C6258363EB9D&catalog=0§ionId=0&productType=2&platformId=9&productId=53933 |
| 20:20.41 | pnis | mark: i see |
| 20:20.44 | pnis | looks nice |
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| 20:23.48 | pnis | not cheap either |
| 20:23.52 | pnis | he:) |
| 20:29.32 | mark | pnis: heh |
| 20:30.14 | chouimat | mark: the sells are good? |
| 20:30.31 | mark | chouimat: none yet :P |
| 20:31.12 | pnis | i should start selling xmms |
| 20:31.22 | pnis | and tell fsf to f*** o** |
| 20:31.59 | pnis | isn't that a nice idea? |
| 20:32.02 | chouimat | pnis hehe |
| 20:32.10 | pnis | :) |
| 20:33.31 | pnis | btw about helix - tell me if you don't wanto hear about it from me anymoire:) |
| 20:33.44 | pnis | i heard on mplayer-dev list that their proprietary |
| 20:33.48 | pnis | streaming format |
| 20:33.50 | pnis | method |
| 20:33.51 | pnis | protocol |
| 20:33.59 | pnis | yes, protocol |
| 20:34.05 | pnis | is not openm sourced in helix |
| 20:34.46 | pnis | so - according to this, might not be true - what you cann't stream with mplayer/xine, you can't stream with helix either |
| 20:35.06 | pnis | i mean if streaming in mplayer was bugfree and didn't hang after 5 frames |
| 20:35.32 | pnis | anybody has differing information? |
| 20:37.04 | pnis | and maybe iirc imho afaik xine developers are working on support for that secret proprietary protocol |
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| 21:18.13 | jbardin | Rocko's Modern Life i want episodes of this |
| 21:18.20 | jbardin | anyone have a clue as to where i could find them |
| 21:18.38 | kergoth | jbardin: /j #offtopic |
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| 21:21.46 | jay | linksys wireless card supported in oz3 not in oz 3.1rc2 |
| 21:21.52 | jay | :( |
| 21:22.08 | kergoth | jay: upgrade hostap-modules from unstable |
| 21:25.47 | gaurdian | kergoth , when I install rc2, how do I remove apps I dont want, like the calandar ? |
| 21:25.59 | gaurdian | because I have the Kompany replacement |
| 21:27.52 | kergoth | huh? |
| 21:28.00 | kergoth | run the big obvious "Packages" program |
| 21:28.04 | kergoth | and uninstall whatever you want |
| 21:28.08 | HighNo | :) |
| 21:28.16 | HighNo | almost :) |
| 21:28.23 | gaurdian | I did run that... |
| 21:28.34 | gaurdian | and it dident give me the uninstall option |
| 21:28.43 | kergoth | huh? |
| 21:28.49 | kergoth | choose 'installed pkgs' |
| 21:28.53 | kergoth | select the app in question |
| 21:28.54 | kergoth | in apply |
| 21:28.56 | kergoth | click remove |
| 21:28.59 | kergoth | hit ok |
| 21:29.00 | kergoth | ta da |
| 21:29.01 | HighNo | i will try to install that opie-base. don't know what it does but it is so damn big... ;) |
| 21:29.04 | gaurdian | ok...let me give it aneother shot |
| 21:29.11 | kergoth | HighNo: eh? oz already has opie-base. |
| 21:29.11 | HighNo | uninstall i meant |
| 21:29.12 | HighNo | :) |
| 21:29.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:29.24 | kergoth | thatd be pretty fucking stupid |
| 21:29.24 | HighNo | just joking around |
| 21:29.29 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:29.33 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:29.45 | HighNo | sorry, my jokes keep getting worse |
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| 22:29.48 | pnis | good night all |
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| 23:05.08 | xtant | sup every1 |
| 23:05.16 | xtant | what are the advantages of zaurus over pocket pc |
| 23:05.21 | xtant | imma prospective buyer |
| 23:05.52 | treke|home | the zaurus doesnt suck |
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| 23:11.41 | cor | treke|home: heh |
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