irclog2html for #zaurus on 20021226

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00:16.15ZERO_Kwhat is the latest rom version
00:16.44ZERO_Ksharps site says 2.37 and my z says 2.78
00:17.00rabbit_uk2.38 is the latest
00:17.14rabbit_ukignore the 2.78
00:18.23ZERO_Kok
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00:19.02ZERO_Kwhy does the site say 2.37? i dont understand that
00:20.03rabbit_uksorry, which site?
00:22.59ZERO_Khttp://myzaurus.com/ROMupdate3.asp
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00:29.05mnemoniczero_k: isn't this the latest? http://myzaurus.com/ROMupdate4.asp
00:30.36ZERO_Kwonder y they dont link that up
00:30.59ZERO_Ki just found the setup file for the 2.38 rom i had this past summer
00:31.08ZERO_Ki got mine then, got my lil bro a zaurus for christmas
00:31.14ZERO_Kim setting it up for him right now
00:31.44mnemonicrabbit_uk: you're not the only one who is confused by this... :)
00:32.06ZERO_Kyou think the rom i had from this past summer is different from the rom now?
00:32.37rabbit_uk2.39....not sensible
00:33.11mnemonicnot sure... I used the uk rom (2.39) before... now i'm testing oz 3.1rc1...
00:33.55ZERO_Kis oz3 pretty stable>?
00:34.01rabbit_ukThat's something I should do actually. My brother is home with his CF card camera :)
00:34.04ZERO_Kand is their a gcc compiler to use in qtopia?
00:34.19rabbit_ukon the Z?
00:34.23ZERO_Kman, i lub dis phreakin z
00:34.27ZERO_Kif it was legal, id marry it
00:34.31ZERO_Kyeah
00:34.52mnemonicjust been using 3.1rc1 for two days now, but i must say the 3.1rc1 is much more stable and smotther then 3.0.... :)
00:34.52ZERO_Kon the z
00:35.32mnemonicso i'm looking for the stable release of oz 3.1..
00:35.41mnemonicforward even...
00:35.42rabbit_ukdunno about compiling with QT on the Z
00:36.01NoMercyI'm interested in seeing Debian on the Zaurus
00:36.40ZERO_Kmy lil bro wants a compiler on it,
00:36.54ZERO_Kany options for him w/o goin with oz3.x?
00:38.13ZERO_Kit still says ver 2.78
00:38.15ZERO_Khmmm
00:41.40rabbit_ukDoesn't your Z say that also though?
00:42.06ZERO_Kz says 2.38
00:42.12ZERO_Kits when its booting up it says 2.78
00:42.29rabbit_ukbut ur configuring your bros Z, right?
00:42.32DrunkSantahohohooo
00:42.51rabbit_ukhello Santa!
00:43.07Pendalarsanta passed out from the eggnog
00:45.39ZERO_Kyeah
00:45.44ZERO_Kim wokring on it now
00:45.47ZERO_Kworking
00:45.55ZERO_Kim installing opie ftp
00:46.14ZERO_Kill stick on ssh, some wlan crap, and chat junk
00:46.17ZERO_Khe dont want much on it
00:46.23ZERO_Kim just gonna give him the basics
00:46.29ZERO_Khe can get the games later
00:46.55ZERO_Ki hvae him the z, wlan nic, ethernet nic, battery pack, 128meg sd
01:15.50rabbit_ukwhat do ppl use to play DivX? Mplayer 0.90rc1 only plays smoothly without audio.
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01:16.57kollarabbit_uk: I use mplayer with audio set up correctly for my system :)
01:17.30rabbit_ukHow's that done? I've installed the libSDL-mixer
01:17.48rabbit_ukbut it doesn't find it.
01:18.00kollaleft click and pick "preferences" from the menu
01:18.05kollaoh.. and I use gmplayer
01:18.16rabbit_ukah....not command line?
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01:18.52kollagraphical
01:19.17kollagtk I assume
01:19.28tmm1what
01:20.12rabbit_ukkolla: where did u get gmplayer from?
01:21.06kollauhm.. gentoo
01:21.17kollaare you talking zaurus btw? :)
01:21.21tmm1mplayer has gmplayer
01:21.31kollaI was talking general linux
01:23.45rabbit_ukZ
01:24.28rabbit_ukI use mplayer with SDL on my SuSE box but the Z doesn't seem to find the drivers
01:24.39kollaok
01:24.55kollaI'm clueless, dont watch divx on the zaurus, too small :)
01:25.05kollanot the display, but the storage :)
01:25.20kollawell, and the CPU is not really usable for such
01:25.53rabbit_ukagreed, but I still want to be able to do it :)
01:25.58tmm1i disagree :)
01:25.59kollaallthough I havent really checked how big a film gets if re-encoded to 320x240
01:26.48kollaand lots to be gained by lowering the sound quality
01:26.53rabbit_ukI've got a 320x240 encoding of Stargate which lasts for 2 minutes...that's 5 meg.
01:27.08kollaok
01:27.41kollaabout 300MB for 2 hours then
01:28.16rabbit_ukyeah. so you might be able to stick a movie on a 256 SD card.
01:28.20kollawell, I do have a 512MB CF :)
01:28.27rabbit_ukyikes
01:28.48ZERO_Kwhat irc app yall usin on da z?
01:28.52ZERO_Ki was using zic
01:28.56kollaopie-irc
01:28.57ZERO_Kbut i c 2 others
01:29.00ZERO_Kreally
01:29.03kollaand before that some java client
01:29.08ZERO_Kany particular advantage?
01:29.12ZERO_Kis it just cleaner?
01:29.12kollano :)
01:29.25kollait comes with OZ :)
01:30.57ZERO_Kit will run in qtopia?
01:31.05kolladont know
01:31.56kollahuh
01:31.58kollahttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=810
01:32.12ZERO_Kwhut you use for aolim
01:32.27kollaI dont do instant messaging
01:33.17kollahttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=572 <- opieirc
01:34.55kollaopieirc uses a heck lot more pixels for nonsense than zic though
01:35.08tmm1hehe
01:35.20tmm1i should try zic
01:35.39ZERO_Kthink ill stay wit zic
01:36.11ZERO_Kanyone used kmerlin?
01:36.20tmm1no what is it
01:36.25ZERO_Kim client
01:36.34ZERO_Kits newer than kinkata
01:36.47tmm1with aim?
01:36.52ZERO_Kyeah
01:36.55tmm1link?
01:37.19ZERO_Khttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=294
01:37.57tmm1hmm
01:38.00tmm1it says msn
01:38.17ZERO_Kreally
01:38.18ZERO_Khmm
01:38.31ZERO_Kah
01:38.32ZERO_Kcool
01:38.38ZERO_Ki just saw im and figured
01:38.39ZERO_Kcool
01:38.43ZERO_Ki wont get that then
01:38.50tmm1hehe
01:43.57DaWormwow an overclock tool
01:48.57Com[Plexzero
01:49.30ZERO_Kwuz up
01:49.38ZERO_Kyou get muh msg?
01:50.15Com[Plexyeah
01:50.15ZERO_Ki just got an email for gettin g a 'my duckie' massager
01:50.17ZERO_KHAHA
01:50.21Com[Plexliquid styles in oz3
01:50.25Com[Plexits very nice.
01:50.37ZERO_Kthat looked like its for qt though
01:50.55Com[Plexthe one on that link was, but they charbge for it. the one with oz is free.
01:50.58ZERO_Kit would b cool to have in qt
01:51.04Com[Plex$
01:51.05ZERO_Kyeah
01:51.13ZERO_Ki want ta c the z b able ta dual boot
01:51.16ZERO_Kthat would b phreakin sweet
01:56.52Com[Plexhey ZERO_K, http://me.256k.net/stfu/English2-Pepsiholic.png
01:57.40ZERO_Kso whut ya sayin f00
01:57.48ZERO_Kdont like muh lingo?
01:57.50ZERO_Khahaaha
02:00.02ljpno, this isnt third grade, and it makes it difficult to read
02:01.18ZERO_Kits just so much easier to type shorthand
02:02.39ZERO_Kanyone used zmeeting?
02:02.55ZERO_Khttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=696
02:03.02hardwireljp: hi
02:03.38ljphardwire!
02:05.06badl_ZERO_K: i haven't given it a decent attempt.. but in the few minutes i tried it out, i didn't get it going
02:06.51hardwireljp!
02:07.12ZERO_Kyeah
02:07.19ljphardwire: where ya been? did you get a job?
02:07.23hardwiremerry newtons b-day!
02:07.29hardwireI have a job.. always :)
02:07.35ZERO_Ki didnt think it would b sumthin easy
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02:07.44hardwireits called poor reasearcher that makes crazy stuff that people love but won't pay me for
02:07.45Com[Plexbadl: yuo paid 50$ for an app you never used ?
02:08.09Com[Plexbadl: ignore me please
02:08.15badl_k
02:08.23badl_i was typing a reply ;)
02:08.30Com[PlexI thought you were talking about the app that let you connect to a terminal server machine
02:09.13ljpoh, like a cluster of networking satellite dishes?
02:09.46hardwireheh
02:09.47hardwireyeah
02:09.55hardwireand input devices
02:09.57hardwireand stuff
02:10.09hardwireand everything I have in my project list that I have prototyped.. but nobody can afford to make
02:10.12ljpdamn it! document is _not_ undeclared!
02:10.35Com[Plexhttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=405
02:10.52hardwiretinykate?
02:11.32badl_hardwire: do you know how development of that is coming?
02:11.51hardwireof what?
02:12.02ljpya, tinykate.. it in opie cvs.. but whomever added it, forgot about it, and it doesnt save
02:12.06badl_tinykate
02:12.18hardwire<hardwire> tinykate?
02:12.34badl_hardwire: yeah, but ljp has just answered thanks
02:12.41hardwirewhats tinykaye?
02:12.44hardwirewhats tinykate?
02:12.45ljpkate = syntaz highlighting text editor
02:12.52badl_kate (kwrite) is a kde text editor
02:12.56ljphehe
02:13.01hardwireahhaoh I SEE
02:14.01ljpsomething funny.. tkcEditor is faster on oz because of the opie preload style stuff
02:15.52hardwirehi
02:16.38badlhello
02:17.24hardwireI have a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge belly
02:17.31hardwireI had to fill my amazon gut
02:17.38badlnice
02:18.01ljpmy cat has devil teeth
02:18.18badldoes your cat scare you in the night?
02:18.23ljpno
02:18.31ljpshe does sleep on my neck tho
02:18.41badlooowwwwwh
02:19.23ljpya, wait till I start sleeping on her neck
02:19.30hardwireI sleep on my cat
02:19.31badlhehe
02:19.36ZERO_KCom[Plex: i got a dazzel 6in1 reader
02:19.57ljphardwire: I thought you were a cat island
02:20.14treke|laptopcats
02:21.02ZERO_Kdang
02:21.08treke|laptopljp: it sort of worked
02:21.10ZERO_Ki dont understand this crap
02:21.30treke|laptopljp: it did syntax highlighting and could load files. It just couldnt save them :)
02:22.01ljpya, saving is a big part of editing :D
02:22.19treke|laptopis the saving not in the backend or just not linked to the gui?
02:22.54ljpnot in the gui
02:23.06hardwireljp: I am..
02:23.10hardwiremr cat island
02:23.13treke|laptopauthor probably didnt want to write a file dialog :)
02:23.14hardwirethey usually all get on me
02:23.43ljptreke: its all there, just need to get a proper pointer to the current document
02:23.45hardwireexcept for one of em
02:24.01hardwirewhich fits nicely into the pocket I make with the bed when I sleep on my side
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02:31.22sheenmasterwhat is the package name of the image viewer
02:31.26sheenmaster?
02:31.56ljpoh, now your leet!
02:32.18hardwireheh
02:32.19ljpnow ssh to the zaurus.com server from there
02:32.35hardwireI am gonna bring the zaurus to 3000 feet below sealevel soon
02:32.44ljpheh
02:32.48ljpgood luck
02:32.52hardwiredanke
02:33.07hardwireits our secondary survival system
02:33.26hardwireif something boinks.. it sends signals to the Co2 tanks to deploy the floaters
02:33.44sheenmastercool
02:34.03ljphope you have a solid case for it :)
02:34.18ljpI dont think the Z is water proof to -3000 ft
02:34.20hardwireits in a sealed atmosphere..
02:34.36sheenmasterljp: he'll be fine so long as he doesn't switch to wince
02:34.44ljphope your battery doesnt run out
02:34.58hardwireit won't.. it will be powered from topside
02:35.18ljpwhere you going?
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02:35.28hardwirecatalina most likely
02:35.38hardwirethats the warmest area to do it right now
02:35.43hardwirein the summer we will go up to dutch harbor
02:36.11sheenmasterwtf is the image viewer package?
02:36.19hardwirefeh?
02:36.29hardwireopie-imageviewer?
02:36.35hardwireipkg list | grep image
02:37.48sheenmasterreturns nothing
02:38.02hardwireso.. I think I am gonna buy lots and lots of steel square beams soon... and borrow a friends MIG welder..  and make me a new desk
02:38.12hardwiresheenmaster: I am not paid to think for you yet..
02:38.24hardwiregimme a few bucks and I will boot up the Z and look for you
02:39.25hardwireI wonder how many hops he was away from the server :)
02:39.28hardwireGEDDIT
02:39.33sheenmasterhardwire: how 'bout 802.11b in jeff city tn?
02:39.54hardwirewhats a jeff city?
02:40.45sheenmastera small town
02:40.49hardwireah
02:40.56hardwirewell.. go to a best buy and buy a wap?
02:41.27sheenmasterlol
02:41.52sheenmasterhaving to much fun w/ mine
02:42.36hardwirecan you rephrase the question in the form of an answer?
02:42.51hardwirethat answer correlating to my obvious question..
02:42.52hardwire;
02:42.54hardwire:)
02:44.00Com[Plexanyone here know how to write java stuff for the z ?
02:44.27sheenmasteri'll give you an xmms control script
02:44.29hardwireoops.. /me runs off to play that "Trouble" game with his nephew and neice
02:44.37ljphehe
02:44.48hardwireniece ..
02:44.49sheenmasterCom[Plex java.sun.com has a howto
02:45.37Com[Plexfor programin on the z ?
02:45.52Com[PlexIm talking about writing apps ON and/or For the z
02:46.00sheenmasterCom[Plex yeah
02:46.26sheenmasterCom[Plex try kaffe then
02:46.41sheenmasterCom[Plex there is nomjdk
02:51.17ZERO_KCom[Plex: you using embededconsole or qpeterminal?
02:55.47Pendalarwhy does wapaka.com take forever to load?
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03:00.45hardwirekids break me
03:03.11ljpbreak them back
03:04.11hardwireheh
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03:11.14ZERO_Kok
03:11.21ZERO_Kthis is what is pissing me off
03:11.45ZERO_Ki just threw a mess of .ipk files onto my z, and now when i try to install them, it doesnt see any of them
03:12.42rabbit_uktheir prolly not packaged correctly. ipk is fussy
03:12.48rabbit_ukthey're even
03:13.06ZERO_Kwell
03:13.10ZERO_Kits like 20 apps
03:13.16ZERO_Kand i already installed them once before
03:13.38ZERO_Ki had to throw them in /home/root because it would give me an error when trying to throw them into /mnt/card
03:13.41rabbit_uktry doing it from the command line
03:13.50rabbit_ukweird
03:14.05ZERO_Ki cant install console till i get these apps on
03:14.06ZERO_KPISS
03:14.16rabbit_ukterminal doesn't work?
03:14.21rabbit_ukqpe-terminal?
03:14.23ZERO_Kand this crappy 6in1 reader keeps blue screening in win
03:14.30rabbit_ukeek
03:14.33ZERO_Ki use embeddedconsole
03:14.43ZERO_Kand i just cant see it to install it
03:14.49ZERO_Kits a bunch of crap
03:15.15rabbit_ukwell install the Sharp Terminal app and then using that install your embeddedconsole.
03:15.33ZERO_Kwait
03:15.39ljpwoot! tinykate saves!
03:15.47ZERO_Kis card== cf or sd
03:16.55ljpsd
03:16.58ZERO_Kyeah
03:16.59ZERO_Kwierd
03:17.04ZERO_Ki dont understand this at all
03:17.12ljpdont try
03:17.32ljptrying to find logic in sharps setup will make you crazy
03:17.53ZERO_Kim about to go crazy
03:18.35ZERO_Kthis reader is gimpy, and i dont remember having this much trouble the last 2 times i reinstalled mine
03:19.03ZERO_Kand im tired of switching from nix ta win
03:19.46ZERO_Kwhy does it give me /var/mnt.rom/card instead of /mnt/card ?
03:20.00ZERO_Ki mean /usr/mnt.rom/card
03:20.21ZERO_Kare those dirs supposed to be linked?
03:21.53ZERO_Kman
03:22.10ZERO_Kim bout ta throw this z accross the room
03:22.13ZERO_Ksomeone take it away
03:24.16DaWormgimme gimme
03:25.18ZERO_Kok, i just downloaded opie embeddedkonsole from killefiz.de/zaurus/ and threw it in /tmp
03:25.25ZERO_Ki go to install it and i cant see it
03:25.39ZERO_Kis there any logical explanation?
03:25.48ljpmove it to ~/Documents
03:26.55ZERO_Kdang
03:27.00ZERO_Kim gonna have to do a reset to do this
03:27.11ZERO_Ki have no console, no file manager, BLAH
03:35.16ZERO_Khow do i format a sd card
03:35.23ZERO_Kim wondering if that is my problem
03:42.39ZERO_Ksd card == /dev/mmcda ... correct?
03:42.52ZERO_Ker mmcda1 i mean
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03:47.19MoochoWhere can I download 2.4.20 usbdnet patch?
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04:08.57NoMercyhumm
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04:41.58ZERO_Kif anyone is interested, found my problem, sd card was formated for fat16, formated it ext2 and no more probs
04:48.36oGMohmm
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05:53.02brontosI got a CF wireless lan card for xmas today...  DHCP is working and is assigning an ip however I cannot ping anything out...  I am using oz Any ideas?
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06:24.03Com[Plexwich version of oz ?
06:24.10Com[Plex3.0 or 3.1 ?
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07:45.27br33zyhey has anybody seen that zaurus overclocking tooL?
07:46.23br33zyTheMasterMind1: have you? (getting your attention, lol)
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09:06.21BiGBiGYLLaMaanyone here?
09:06.35BiGBiGYLLaMamy z wont suspend anymore :(
09:07.43BiGBiGYLLaMawhat is the konsole commandfor suspend?
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09:11.37kybuhi. where can i find the usb driver for winxp?
09:11.54BiGBiGYLLaMaon the cd?
09:13.08kybui want to download latest version but can't find it no www.zaurus.com
09:13.11kybuon
09:14.03BiGBiGYLLaMahmm
09:14.31BiGBiGYLLaMay the latest? doesnt the old ones work?
09:14.50kybuehm i didn'tn tryed it because i lost the cd
09:15.15BiGBiGYLLaMahehe
09:15.50BiGBiGYLLaMamy z doesnt suspend anymore :(((
09:17.54BiGBiGYLLaMalemme look how big the drivers are
09:21.12BiGBiGYLLaMashall i put it on my http-server?
09:23.18kybuoh yes thanx
09:23.37BiGBiGYLLaMamompl
09:23.56BiGBiGYLLaMarar or zip?
09:24.09kybudoesnt matter
09:24.37BiGBiGYLLaMa(i hope these are the right files)
09:27.56BiGBiGYLLaMaone more sec plz
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09:29.24GlaDhi
09:30.03BiGBiGYLLaMahttp://bigbigllama.kicks-ass.org:9999/usb_driver.rar
09:32.22kybuthanx, but that's what i got and they didn't work on xp :(
09:32.42BiGBiGYLLaMathis is what i have
09:33.04BiGBiGYLLaMaand i hvae xp too
09:33.09kybuand it works?
09:33.17BiGBiGYLLaMayes
09:33.20kybuhmso the problem is somewhere else thanx
09:33.41BiGBiGYLLaMawhat happenswhen u install the drivers?
09:35.14kybuit said unknow usb device
09:35.50BiGBiGYLLaMai did it this way:...
09:36.25BiGBiGYLLaMai plugged the usb docking station to usb port... and then xp asks me to install the drivers right?
09:36.36kyburight
09:36.49kybuthat's what i did
09:37.05BiGBiGYLLaMaso i point xp to the right folder
09:37.21BiGBiGYLLaMaand then it installs the drivers
09:37.23BiGBiGYLLaMahmm
09:37.27kybuyes point and click, doesn't work for me
09:37.28kybu:)
09:37.37BiGBiGYLLaMa:(
09:37.54kybuim gona try yours driver, i will see
09:38.35BiGBiGYLLaMaok
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09:48.05kybupretty damn it works :)
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09:51.16BiGBiGYLLaMakewl
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11:04.24markibot: mpeg
11:04.26it has been said that mpeg is just
11:04.41markanyone know where that encoding for the Z howto is?
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11:28.33markibot: encode
11:28.34mark: no idea
11:28.34markibot: dvd
11:28.40[dvd] (Digital Variable/Versatile/Video Disc) Much like a CD-ROM except that it stores up to 12 times as much and is re-writeable. Although the industry claims that DVD really stands for NOTHING, I think otherwise. DVD is the successor to CD-ROM technology. It's the same size, but holds between 4.7 => 18 GB of data. The first wave of DVD drives will be read-only devices, but future versions will work with rewriteable media. The drives are finally starting to come out now, and in the consumer market they will eventually replace VCRs and Laserdisc players.
11:29.13markibot: mpeg
11:29.14rumour has it, mpeg is just
11:29.15markibot: divx
11:29.17[divx] a forn of MPEG4. or see transcode or see mencoder or see also "divx guide"
11:29.22markibot: transcode
11:29.24[transcode] a linux video processing tool that can be used to encode divx movies for the zaurus.  see http://63.194.216.219/zaurusrip.sh.txt or talk to Onyx4 for any problems/questions. or http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/ or a faster and better alternative for transcode is see mencoder
11:30.22markibot: mencoder
11:30.24mencoder is, like, an excellent mpeg4 encoder that can be used to encode movies for the zaurus, see http://www.mplayerhq.hu and for a frontend use kmencoder http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmencoder/ or use this simple script http://63.194.216.219/zmencoder.sh.txt, or see http://www.zeb.uklinux.net/encoding.html
11:35.00squikwill it be possible to make phone calls with a zaurus ? (as the ipaq 5450)
11:40.24squikdid someone saw that ? : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27970&item=1947613027
11:41.24squikthey talk about the 21jan for the 5600
11:44.30BiGBiGYLLaMaand which price?
11:46.09squikit seems 599$
11:46.22BiGBiGYLLaMaohhh
11:47.56lsmithsounds like a load of crap ..
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13:05.51squiklsmith : like a lot on ebay ...
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13:16.34brontosI got a CF Wireless card for xmas...  It is optaining an ip via DHCP however I can't seem to ping anything...  and the cf card doesn't always seem to work... Any ideas?
13:19.07markbrontos: hmm, odd if its geting an ip
13:19.30markbrontos: oz/default?
13:20.09brontosoz
13:20.19brontosI thought so too
13:21.19brontosbut it doesn't always get one either
13:21.25brontosabout 50%
13:23.26brontosany ideas?
13:24.37brontosMAN! this oz is so slow sometimes!
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13:51.23Cloudchaserhello...hope everyone had a nice holiday
13:56.28Dilbhi
14:03.10Bovineibot gps
14:03.12from memory, gps is http://russnelson.com/ipaq/gps/ or qpegps.sf.net or gpsqpe.sf.net
14:24.58markhi Cloudchaser.  yep, and you too?
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14:37.26Cloudchaseryes it was very nice :) at my mom's house in florida.
14:37.38Cloudchaserstill crazy here though.. lots of people
14:38.17Cloudchaserhi JasonNJ
14:38.21Cloudchaserdid you have a nice holiday?
14:46.04Cloudchaserwell have a nice day everyone ;)
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14:49.26JasonNJcloud: was nice until my wife's uncle died
14:49.32JasonNJgotta go to a funeral tomorrow
14:50.01JasonNJwe knew it was coming though... he had cancer
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15:04.45JasonNJmorning all.
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15:06.45George-'allo
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15:14.25hamhi
15:14.29George-hi bacon
15:14.36George-j/k :)
15:14.36hamheh :)
15:14.39hamnp
15:14.50hamcool
15:15.11George-what?
15:15.15hamdo you know a site where i can get drivers for the station of the zaurus?
15:15.21hamthat chan here :)
15:15.33George-for which OS?
15:15.33hamfor linux
15:15.36ham:)
15:15.36George-yeh
15:15.40George-uhm, hang on
15:16.03George-I hope you have a compiler handy
15:16.28George-http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/usbdnet-standalone.tgz
15:16.33hamcompiler handy?
15:16.47George-yeh, you'll need to compile the drivers
15:16.51George-with gcc or whatever
15:17.00hamah
15:17.03George-http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html
15:17.06George-That's the howto
15:17.08hamof course :)
15:17.11hamthx alot
15:17.14George-Forget all the compiling stuff, use the README file ;)
15:17.27George-(ie - don't follow the instructions for compiling in the HOWTO)
15:17.47hamok
15:18.02George-basically, compile the usbdnet driver as per the instructions in the README, then go to step 2 in the HOWTO
15:19.43hami hope that they got wlan at the uni :)
15:20.46hamdo you happen to know how i can del picture files?
15:24.37markGeorge-: hi
15:36.26BiGBiGYLLaMahello, everyone... i have a problem: icant suspend my z anymore...
15:37.19BiGBiGYLLaMais there a konsole command for suspending?
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15:46.45kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: apm -s
15:47.06treke|ho1emornin kergoth
15:47.14kergothmorning treke
15:47.16BiGBiGYLLaMathx
15:47.19kergothhows it goin?
15:47.23treke|ho1egoin good
15:48.08kergothi'm tired as hell, but good
15:48.09kergothheh
15:48.39treke|ho1ekergoth: got today off?
15:48.48BiGBiGYLLaMait tells me thta the libapm.so cant be loaded
15:50.19kergothtreke|ho1e: no, i shouldve taken it off. tomorrow too. blech
15:50.29kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: if you're on OZ, install libapm1
15:50.51BiGBiGYLLaMait is installed
15:50.55treke|ho1ekergoth: with luck there will be no one there, so I can cut out early
15:51.04kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: if it was installed, you wouldnt get that error
15:51.14kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: find / -name libapm.so\*
16:01.40BiGBiGYLLaMathere is only a libapm1 istalled
16:02.39kergoth?
16:04.25BiGBiGYLLaMait all happend when i upgraded the apmd package...there it says cant find libapm.so.1
16:04.56BiGBiGYLLaMado i have to shut the apm down?
16:05.03BiGBiGYLLaMawhen i upgrade it?
16:05.06kergoth?
16:05.11kergothyou mean apmd?
16:05.17kergothyou arent shutting apm down, just the daemon
16:05.25BiGBiGYLLaMaok
16:05.27kergothbut yeah, /etc/init.d/apm restart
16:08.01BiGBiGYLLaMaso it tells me again:no libapm.so.1 found
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16:11.16kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: then libapm.so.1 isnt installed, like i said
16:11.21kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: we're going in circles
16:11.26kergothBiGBiGYLLaMa: did you do the find command i gave you?
16:11.45BiGBiGYLLaMayes
16:11.49kergothand?
16:11.55BiGBiGYLLaManothing found
16:12.00kergoththen libapm isnt installed
16:12.01kergothlike i said.
16:12.06kergothi repeat myself
16:12.34BiGBiGYLLaMasorry...but i did install it
16:12.48kergoththen where is it?
16:12.52kergothit obviously isnt there.
16:13.44ljp_work1tinykate should start working now
16:17.13markGeorge-: boo
16:20.15BiGBiGYLLaMaok i removed apmd and libapm1 and reinstalled it... now there is no error message anmore
16:20.41BiGBiGYLLaMathx
16:21.15kergothnp
16:21.26BiGBiGYLLaMa:)
16:22.34BiGBiGYLLaMawhat does the t does the \* do in the find command?
16:22.47BiGBiGYLLaMaoops
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16:23.17yesicanabushey guys any one around?
16:23.36BiGBiGYLLaMai am seeing words  twice
16:24.25yesicanabushey who here runs openzaurus
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16:36.53ljp_work1whats a openzaurus?
16:38.56BiGBiGYLLaMahuh?
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16:50.49boulezhow can you delete apps that installed with the Sharp Rom?
16:51.03boulezI'm sure it's possible from the terminal but I'm a nix noob
16:51.52ljp_work1you cant really delete any app that flashed with the sharp rom, as they are in readonly rom
16:51.59boulezah ok
16:52.17ljp_work1you can delete the symlink so you cant see it]
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17:57.52badalexany one get scummvm to work? the new one
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18:34.43JasonNJhell I just wanna go home
18:35.15kergoth`hey jason
18:35.59JasonNJheya chris.
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18:36.40ljp_work1tinykate saves now
18:36.43kergoth`how was your christmas?
18:36.45kergoth`ljp_work1: nice.
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18:39.31CodeYoddlYes, I might get a Zaurus next week, now to find somewhere that has it....
18:39.58ljp_work1office depot has them
18:40.02CodeYoddlBecause I got a Handheld PC for Christmas and I can get the $350 back if I return it, then I can buy a Zaurus.
18:40.09CodeYoddlBestbuy used to...
18:40.33CodeYoddlAnd then for my B-Day I can get an eMac.
18:40.35ljp_work1if its an ipaq you can run familiar/opie on it
18:41.30CodeYoddlNo, it is an Intermec 6651, some weird business Handheld PC, a Hanheld PC is like a mini-laptop in a way, whereas a Pocket PC, such as an iPaq, are orgranizers.
18:42.39ljp_work1what processor?
18:44.25CodeYoddlMIP's
18:45.31CodeYoddlI am going to sell my Pocket PC for about $100-$150 to help pay for a Zaurus, or help pay for the eMac.
18:45.55CodeYoddlIt all depends on whether or not centurian-surplus.com will give me a refund.
18:47.19CodeYoddlIf they do then I will get a Zaurus the minute I get the money.
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18:50.58George-back
18:51.06George-Reinstalled everything on my firewall router ;)
18:51.22CodeYoddlHeh.
18:51.51kergoth`hey George-
18:51.53kergoth`have a good xmas?
18:51.59George-yeh
18:52.04George-;)
18:52.13kergoth`good good. same here
18:52.16ljp_work1hey george: having a good Boxing Day? :D
18:52.38George-ljp_work1: yeh, had to go get an ink cartridge for my new printer
18:52.47George-the cartridge cost nearly as much as the friggin' printer!
18:53.11CodeYoddlWow, here's what I want, http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_shopping.jsp?coe=0&oidPath=0%3a-15464%3a-15471%3a665774&mt=a&n=0&BV_SessionID=_SC_1193676877.1040929135_CS_&BV_EngineID=ccdgadchdfddeflcfkfcfkjdgoodfkf.0
18:53.28kergoth`JasonNJ: pcmcia support is in our 2.4.19 kernel now
18:53.34George-CodeYoddl: you've just had christmas dammit, and you still want more???
18:53.42kergoth`JasonNJ: bout to add the battery status checking back in, and the suspend/resume bits
18:54.00George-kergoth`: is the 2.4.19 kernel usable?
18:54.07CodeYoddlI was just looking at Sam's Club, a wearable compouter...
18:54.35George-CodeYoddl: with WinCE 3.0??!?!!? ARGH!
18:54.42CodeYoddlIt does?
18:54.49kergoth`George-: not yet. touchscreen support, suspend/resume, power button handling, audio, few other bits are still missing
18:55.10George-kergoth`: Well stop slacking!  :)
18:56.47ljp_work1~lart George-
18:57.03George-hah
18:57.06George-told ya =P
19:01.05George-kergoth`lunch: stop eating and get back to work ;)
19:02.58CodeYoddlhttp://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_shopping.jsp?coe=0&oidPath=0%3a-15464%3a-15469%3a686974&mt=a&n=0&BV_SessionID=_SC_1193676877.1040929135_CS_&BV_EngineID=ccdgadchdfddeflcfkfcfkjdgoodfkf.0
19:03.31George-err
19:03.34George-that's the same url
19:03.37George-isn't it?
19:03.53CodeYoddlno, this one is for a hard drive
19:04.01NeoTronhello
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19:06.24CodeYoddlCan you type decently on the ZAURuS?¡
19:06.33George-?
19:07.13Com[Plexi can
19:07.38CodeYoddlI can only get 20wpm on my Pocket PC with the on screen keyboard.
19:07.49CodeYoddlAnd I want to dev on the Zaurus.
19:08.46CodeYoddlAnd use SdL
19:09.58f001602Hello.  I'm trying to get my camera (CE-AG06) to work with openzaurus 3.0.  I've installed sharp-camera-support_0.1-1.arm.ipk and qpe-camera_1.5.0-1_arm.ipk (forcing install past qpe-base depends because it conflicts with opie-base).  The camera program will insist that the ce-ag06 module be inserted whether it actually is or not.  What am I missing?
19:12.30CodeYoddlCool.
19:12.51CodeYoddlYou have a camera, try going to #openzaurus to ask your question.
19:13.09CodeYoddlOr go into #sourceforge to get an answer.
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19:13.35f001602oh, sorry.
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19:13.41CodeYoddlYeah, the people in #sourceforge can help
19:14.46CodeYoddlThey are smart in #sourceforge
19:15.50Shaydeso anyone written Java stuff usign some of the other widget kits?  I wrote somethig using Laval, and it came up, and ran on screen, but Qtopia basically didn't know it existed.  If i selected another qtopia app, the new app got 'hidden' and i had to kill it.
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19:23.51j0shi got openzaurus installed, how can i get bash ?
19:24.44Shaydestart a shell
19:26.10j0shit doesnt have bash
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19:30.27kergoth`lunchj0sh: install it.
19:31.17j0shhey
19:31.26j0shhrm
19:31.45kergoth`lunchits in the openzaurus feeds
19:31.45j0shim gona reinstall sharp's
19:31.51kergoth`lunchk
19:31.53j0shthis thing sucks
19:31.55j0shlol
19:31.59TheMasterMind1eh?
19:32.02TheMasterMind1why does it suck?
19:32.02kergoth`lunchhuh?
19:32.05j0shlol
19:32.08j0shi duno
19:32.13TheMasterMind1wtf are you smoking
19:32.16j0shthe package isnt working
19:32.18j0shumm kindbud
19:32.25j0shno packages are installing..
19:32.28kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: i'll bet you $20 its not the rom thats the problem, its the user.
19:32.29TheMasterMind1"the package"
19:32.30TheMasterMind1?
19:32.38j0shipkg's
19:32.43TheMasterMind1j0sh what are you using to installt hem?
19:32.48TheMasterMind1don't use qtopia desktop
19:32.49TheMasterMind1its crap
19:32.51j0sheverything i had
19:32.52j0shim not
19:33.00j0shim using my PNY reader
19:33.01TheMasterMind1how are you installing them theb?
19:33.05Shaydej0sh: you'll get a lot better response / answers if you actually state the problem your having clearly ad not just rattle off shit like "This sucks!"
19:33.07j0shPNY cf reader
19:33.11Shaydeand you won't piss off folks on channel.
19:33.13TheMasterMind1ok.. and?
19:33.19TheMasterMind1a cf reader doesn't insatll ipks
19:33.22j0shi know
19:33.24j0shi uploaded it
19:33.30j0shand went to the package installer
19:33.31TheMasterMind1and...
19:37.13Shaydeand conversation stops dead.
19:37.38TheMasterMind1yea
19:37.41TheMasterMind1heh
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19:39.57Com[Plexanyone looked at this zaurus overclcoker ?
19:40.16TheMasterMind1i saw the screenshot
19:40.20TheMasterMind1looks interestiung
19:40.38kergoth`lunchheh
19:40.46kergoth`lunchpierre at lineo o/c'd one of his Zs
19:40.52kergoth`lunchafaicr it ended up hosed
19:40.58TheMasterMind1heh
19:41.11TheMasterMind1stupid thing
19:41.23j0shim gona keep oz
19:41.26j0shits nice looking
19:41.31kergoth`lunchbut wait
19:41.35kergoth`lunchi thought it sucks?
19:41.38j0shlol
19:41.40j0shi did too
19:41.46j0sha min
19:41.47j0shago
19:41.51j0shquite fucking with my mind!
19:41.52j0shlol
19:41.55j0shim stoned :(
19:42.01j0shill come back when im not high :(
19:42.09ljp_workhehe
19:42.20kergoth`lunchflashing your Z when stoned = bad thing
19:42.22kergoth`lunchheh
19:42.22br33zyhey TheMasterMind1
19:42.25TheMasterMind1oh fuck
19:42.26TheMasterMind1whats this
19:42.26j0shooo
19:42.27br33zyor err
19:42.27TheMasterMind1kergoth`lunch !
19:42.29j0shdrawpad is fun
19:42.36TheMasterMind1kergoth`lunch "irq: spurious interrupt 74
19:42.41TheMasterMind1my Z's going crazy with those errors
19:42.45br33zyCom[Plex: yeah.. i saw it.. iwas talking about it yesterday.. or i was talking to myself.. no one replied
19:42.47kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: your Z finally booted?
19:42.51kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: w/ the new kernel?
19:42.54TheMasterMind1it was booting fine
19:43.00TheMasterMind1once i enabled vt
19:43.07TheMasterMind1but it was hanging at loading runlevel 2
19:43.12br33zyCom[Plex: do you know how its possible? i.e. in C, or C++? to change the CPU frequency
19:43.13kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: cat /proc/interrupts .. whats irq 74?
19:43.17TheMasterMind1so i tried with my initrd
19:43.22TheMasterMind1but its giving these errors
19:43.32TheMasterMind1i don't think it booted
19:43.36TheMasterMind1i can't cat
19:43.37TheMasterMind1or ues it
19:43.41kergoth`lunchheh
19:44.39kergoth`lunchnothing is on irq 74
19:44.49j0shis their anyway to access the itnernet while on the sync thing
19:45.01kergoth`lunchj0sh: same way you would in sharp
19:45.05kergoth`lunchibot: tell j0sh about howtos
19:45.10j0shi didnt know how
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19:45.21TheMasterMind1hmm
19:45.21j0shi just got my zaurus 3 days ago
19:45.26kergoth`lunchj0sh: read that
19:45.36br33zyhi kergoth
19:45.40kergoth`lunchhey br33zy
19:45.44br33zyoh yeah
19:45.59br33zykergoth`lunch: do you know how to change the CPU frequency in C/C++ or Assembly
19:46.03kergoth`lunchnope
19:46.08br33zyok.
19:46.09br33zy:)
19:46.38TheMasterMind1kergoth`lunch where is CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT definied other than in .config
19:46.38ljp_workya, by tweaking the shit out of it
19:46.43kergoth`lunch?
19:46.55kergoth`lunchdunno
19:46.58kergoth`lunchgrep -r
19:47.18TheMasterMind1heh
19:47.40ljp_workwindows is boring
19:47.45kergoth`lunchi just cleaned my tree and built fine
19:47.51kergoth`lunchyou are running make dep before zImage right?
19:47.57kergoth`lunchand you've bk -r co -q'd
19:48.08TheMasterMind1hmm that might be it
19:48.10TheMasterMind1didn't bk -r edit
19:48.49TheMasterMind1or not
19:48.52j0shits usb tho, is their away?
19:49.00kergoth`lunchj0sh: of coruse there is
19:49.01j0shto connect to internet?
19:49.02kergoth`lunchj0sh: go *read*
19:49.06kergoth`lunchj0sh: i just gave you the damn url
19:49.15kergoth`lunchibot: howtos
19:49.17it has been said that howtos is at http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/
19:49.21kergoth`lunchright there
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19:50.30kergoth`lunchconfig/nls/default.h:1:#define CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT "iso8859-1"
19:50.30kergoth`lunchlinux/autoconf.h:774:#define CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT "iso8859-1"
19:50.33kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: ^^
19:50.46kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: autoconf.h is generated at make dep time
19:53.45TheMasterMind1ok
19:53.54TheMasterMind1i didn't find it when i grpe -r
19:54.33TheMasterMind1i just cleanedt
19:54.36TheMasterMind1trying again
19:54.58TheMasterMind1it works it seems
19:55.00TheMasterMind1cool
19:55.03TheMasterMind1nope
19:55.04TheMasterMind1never mind
19:55.06TheMasterMind1it died
19:55.14TheMasterMind1wwtf
19:55.43TheMasterMind1i don't have a linux/ or config/ dir
19:57.37TheMasterMind1kergoth`lunch your initrd worked
19:57.40TheMasterMind1i can login
19:57.46kergoth`lunchcool
19:57.54TheMasterMind1my kernel still won't build
19:58.12George-hey kergoth`lunch =P
19:58.19kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: i think there's something up with your tree
19:58.20j0shwould it be possible to get wine on zaurus?
19:58.22kergoth`lunchTheMasterMind1: i'd reclone
19:58.22George-kergoth`lunch: I'll stop being an ass
19:58.29TheMasterMind1kergoth`lunch hmm. ok
19:58.36hardwireass
19:59.06ljp_workwasnt there a twisted movie called 'Lotto'?
19:59.08Shaydehey kergoth, you see my Java question earlier?
19:59.23Shaydewhy Qtopia didn't 'recognize' a java AWT app running.
19:59.53kergoth`lunchdidnt see it, probably wouldnt know the answer
19:59.54kergoth`lunch:)
19:59.58Shayde*snork*
19:59.58TheMasterMind1recloning..
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20:00.32TheMasterMind1kergoth hmm. fn doesn't work?
20:00.37TheMasterMind1the repeat is a little fast..
20:00.43TheMasterMind1and takes place too soon
20:00.46Shayderan an AWT app that used the Zaval toolkit.  Came up as a floating window on the Zaurus, i could move it around, interact with it, but Qtopia didn't know it was there.  i tapped on a Qtopia wieddge, and my app 'disappeared' (I assume it went behind the qtopia window), and i had to kill it.
20:00.48TheMasterMind1longer delay would be nice
20:00.55kergothTheMasterMind1: fn works fine
20:00.59kergothTheMasterMind1: just as CONTROL
20:01.01kergothTheMasterMind1: remember?
20:01.13kergothTheMasterMind1: the new default keymap isnt in place to remap bits to behave like it usedto
20:01.15TheMasterMind1kergoth ok, so how do i get the yellow keys?
20:01.20TheMasterMind1ok
20:01.22TheMasterMind1but for now
20:01.24TheMasterMind1is there a way?
20:01.27kergothTheMasterMind1: you dont. until you create a map and load it with loadkeys.
20:01.34kergothTheMasterMind1: or replace the default one in the kernel tree
20:02.06TheMasterMind1bah
20:02.08TheMasterMind1this needs work :)
20:02.14TheMasterMind1but atleast it works
20:02.15TheMasterMind1nice job
20:02.24kergothTheMasterMind1: all we need is the keymap, then life is good.
20:02.26kergothTheMasterMind1: :)
20:02.37TheMasterMind1and we need to fix the repeating stuff
20:02.40TheMasterMind1its quite annoying
20:02.50kergothi know
20:02.52TheMasterMind1hmm, press shift ?
20:02.54TheMasterMind1hold it down
20:02.57kergothit needs a bigger delay
20:02.58TheMasterMind1it produces Zs
20:03.02kergothlol, i noticed that
20:03.03kergothits weird
20:03.08kergothoh, and period is the wrong key
20:03.09kergoth:)
20:03.41TheMasterMind1kergoth something's wrong with shift
20:03.43TheMasterMind1like
20:03.44TheMasterMind1shift + space
20:03.47TheMasterMind1is " N"
20:03.51kergothshift + space wont work, thats not surprising
20:03.52treke|ho1ekergoth: many calls today?
20:03.55TheMasterMind1shift + ? is "?K"
20:03.56kergothtreke|ho1e: not ONE
20:03.56TheMasterMind1etc
20:04.10kergothTheMasterMind1: i dunno whats up.. i'm passing shift up as a normal left shift
20:04.14TheMasterMind1shift + v is "VBB"
20:04.15treke|ho1ekergoth: figures
20:04.31kergothTheMasterMind1: i want to get the keymap in place, then we'll look at those quirks
20:05.01kergothTheMasterMind1: its annoying not being able to type numbers
20:05.03kergothTheMasterMind1: hehe
20:05.22TheMasterMind1kergoth also, the screen is weird
20:05.27kergoth?
20:05.30kergothscreen looks great here
20:05.30TheMasterMind1kergoth because of that penguin at the top
20:05.35kergothtype reset
20:05.40kergothheh
20:05.41TheMasterMind1hmm, i think its because i did a ctrl + l
20:05.53kergothyea, its amusing having a normal control
20:05.54TheMasterMind1ah
20:05.56TheMasterMind1much better
20:05.56kergothyou can do shit you couldnt before
20:06.04kergothlike ctrl+D to logout
20:06.05TheMasterMind1nice nice
20:06.06kergothheheh
20:06.17TheMasterMind1actualyl, that worked before
20:06.20j0shwheres the findipkg site?
20:06.21TheMasterMind1calender + d
20:06.22TheMasterMind1:)
20:06.27TheMasterMind1j0sh why?
20:06.40j0shto find ipkg's?
20:06.42j0sh;)
20:06.43TheMasterMind1j0sh oz has its own feeds full of software thats been tested to work
20:06.49j0shoh
20:06.50j0shokay
20:06.52TheMasterMind1ipkgfind is for ipaqs
20:06.53j0shhrm
20:06.56TheMasterMind1ibot oz feed
20:06.58[oz feed] http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/
20:07.07j0shis their a find ipkg for zaurus's ?
20:07.18TheMasterMind1what are you looking for?
20:07.31j0shooh bash, thats what i wanted, found it.. thanks :)
20:07.38George-are printer drivers cross-platform ?
20:07.42j0shhttp://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/bash_2.05b-1_arm.ipk
20:07.52treke|ho1eGeorge-: what type of printer drivers?
20:08.00George-ie are the linux printer drivers tied to a specific arch? (such as x86)
20:08.03George-I dunno
20:08.24TheMasterMind1j0sh just get internet working on your Z and use the aqpkg software to install from the oz feeds
20:08.25treke|ho1esome are. some arent
20:08.43kergothj0sh: like i said, its in the oz feeds
20:08.52kergothj0sh: there are links to the feeds on openzaurus.org, if you had looked around.
20:09.33j0shi cant get the net working on it
20:09.35j0shlol
20:09.57kergoth?
20:10.04George-treke|ho1e: which are and which aren't?
20:10.05kergothso, you cant download ipks in a browser and copy them to your Z?
20:10.11kergothare you that incompetent?
20:10.13kergothjesus
20:10.14TheMasterMind1j0sh just setup internet connection sharing with it
20:10.39treke|ho1eGeorge-: nonportable ones arent portable. portable ones are :)
20:10.40j0shlol
20:10.46George-kergoth: man, you're really kind :)
20:10.50j0shcant figure itout :P
20:10.53j0shim too high
20:10.53j0sh;P
20:10.54kergothGeorge-: i have no patience for the stupid.
20:11.12treke|ho1ej0sh: that's our problem?
20:12.46j0shno
20:12.49j0shnever said it was
20:13.40kergothj0sh: no, you just waste our time as a result.
20:15.36TheMasterMind1j0sh what iwndows version
20:16.17j0shXP
20:16.28TheMasterMind1sigh..
20:16.34TheMasterMind1read the faq item on it then
20:16.38TheMasterMind1search the faq for windows xp
20:17.02j0shit wants com port, how do u know with USB ?
20:17.18kergothj0sh: what hte fuck are you talking about?
20:17.21kergothj0sh: go READ
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20:30.59prpplagueanyone got the url for the detailed list of support cf/mmc cards ?
20:31.19George-treke|ho1e: haha :)
20:31.28George-kergoth: bah, so you have no patience for me? :)
20:31.35prpplaguenm, found it
20:32.36ZERO_Khas anyone tried hookin thier z up to a pcs vision phone for wireless web access?
20:33.52George-j0sh: a word of advice, don't ask silly questions or you'll feel the wrath of kergoth ;)
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20:35.49Com[Plex]sup
20:35.53ZERO_KA SPOON
20:35.58ZERO_KWHY A SPOON!!
20:36.07ZERO_Knothing much man
20:36.10Com[Plex]<PROTECTED>
20:36.11ZERO_Kjust hanging out
20:36.11George-treke|ho1e: it looks like a ghostscript/enscript driver
20:36.19George-treke|ho1e: or whatever ;)
20:36.24ZERO_Kfinally got the zs loaded last night
20:36.41ZERO_Kim kinda pissed, i lost my dang address book before i synced it with my pc
20:37.04Com[Plex]bloops
20:37.50ZERO_Kyup
20:38.05ZERO_Kits not bad though, nothing in there i really needed backed up anyway
20:38.15George-any printer driver experts here?
20:38.25ZERO_Kjust need to get kismet loaded up now
20:41.58George-hrmm, this Lexmark printer stuff looks cool
20:42.05George-I hope it fucking works on PowerPC though :)
20:42.25George-hrmm, nah, it won't work by the looks of it
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21:05.27j0shis their any .mpg players? it wont run on tkplayer or media player on the zaurus
21:05.53kergothj0sh: xmms-e, op2, etc
21:06.12j0shthanks alot :)
21:06.45kergothj0sh: op2 is in the oz feeds
21:06.55j0shfor Qtopia
21:07.03j0shoz is on my other zaurus
21:07.11kergothah. sharp rom ipks of op2 are avail
21:07.12j0shand it isnt in my car im in now..
21:07.12kergothibot: op2
21:07.14somebody said op2 was a media player which is currently in beta stage, which will be able to play streaming mp3, ogg, and MPEG4 (DivX/XviD) movies, and other formats. The backend uses the xine libs. search for it in the oz3 feed for install help. ... http://www.adamhooper.com:4242/zaurus/op2_howto.php
21:07.17j0shwhere at?
21:07.19j0shahh
21:07.20j0shthanks
21:07.22kergothnp
21:07.53j0shwill the opie one work for qtopia?
21:08.01kergothyep
21:08.23George-op2 rocks
21:08.38George-kergoth: I don't think I'll get my laptop back before school :(((
21:09.18George-*snivvle*
21:09.38j0shporn run good on zaurus? lol
21:10.00George-?
21:10.08j0shlol
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21:12.58j0shbtw
21:13.28j0shanyone know why(even after i install libncurses 5) it says: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot load shared object file: no such file or directory ?
21:13.51kergothj0sh: run ldconfig
21:14.05j0shfrom?
21:14.21kergothcant you look for anything yourself?
21:14.25kergothhttp://killefiz.de/zaurus/
21:14.36kergoth^^go there
21:14.59George-ldconfig comes with the Z doesn't it?
21:15.03George-(Well, it should..)
21:15.22j0shcant find it on that side
21:15.28j0shill google search
21:15.39George-j0sh: ldconfig should already be on..
21:16.04kergothj0sh: ipkgfind.handhelds.org
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21:16.25George-what package is gtk-config in?
21:16.43George-is it a part of gtk-devel? ;)
21:16.52j0shcant find it their
21:17.36George-j0sh: IT SHOULD ALREADY BE ON YOUR Z =P
21:17.47kergothGeorge-: it never was in old roms
21:17.55kergothGeorge-: that was one of the things oz had that sharp didnt
21:17.58kergothGeorge-: havent checked recently
21:17.59j0shGeorge-: i cant find it
21:18.13George-kergoth: weird
21:18.13j0shdidnt come with OSPACK
21:18.19George-j0sh: get OZ :)
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21:18.26j0shi do on my other palm
21:18.26kergothhe has oz, on his other z
21:18.27kergothheh
21:18.29George-j0sh: that'll make kergoth happy :)
21:18.38kergoth~fishslap j0sh for calling the z a palm
21:18.45ACTION slaps j0sh up side the head with a wet fish for calling the z a palm
21:18.45George-kergoth: j0sh?
21:18.45j0shlol
21:18.46George-kergoth: oh
21:18.54George-j0sh: copy it across then
21:20.20j0shmaybe i should put OZ on this one too?
21:20.43George-yes
21:20.45George-OZ rocks
21:21.04George-apart from the crappy tech support
21:21.21j0shOZ's package thing wont work right
21:21.27j0sh;/
21:21.27George-???
21:21.36j0shi couldnt get anything working
21:21.36j0sh;(
21:21.38George-kergoth: btw - do you tell people to RTFM over the phone? :)
21:22.17kergothGeorge-: if they're family
21:22.20kergothGeorge-: not at work, no ;)
21:22.20ZERO_KI DO
21:22.26George-kergoth: haha :)
21:22.34George-kergoth: ever had the desire to? :)
21:22.41kergothGeorge-: every day
21:22.43George-haha
21:22.47George-rofl
21:23.34j0shop2 wont work on sharp
21:23.44j0shit cant find package name
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21:24.22George-er.. not an OBE, I think he deserves a KBE for being such a bastard ;)
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21:25.13kergothj0sh: 'it cant find package name' <-wtf does that mean?
21:25.23j0shi go to install package
21:25.35j0shit doesnt show it, and if i click on it, theirs nothing to install..
21:25.44j0shand ipkg install doesnt work on it
21:25.44kergothwhere did you get the package?
21:25.47TheMasterMind1thats because the sharp rom is shitty
21:26.02George-TheMasterMind1: I think he's talking about OZ
21:26.08TheMasterMind1he said sharp
21:26.15George-TheMasterMind1: hrmm
21:26.26TheMasterMind1*shrug*
21:26.41TheMasterMind1either way, i have no clue whats he's talkign about
21:26.47George-hahaha
21:26.59George-TheMasterMind1: does anyone?
21:27.18j0shthen whats a good media player that plays .mpg's for sharp's rom ?
21:27.28George-tkcPlayer
21:27.29TheMasterMind1tkcVideo?
21:27.30George-=P
21:27.35j0shi tried it
21:27.35George-oh yeh, tkcVideo
21:27.40j0shit opens and then closes
21:27.45TheMasterMind1oh well
21:27.50George-j0sh: I think it's a case of PEBKAC
21:27.51treke|ho1ePEBCK
21:28.01j0sh?
21:28.04j0shmplayer would work?
21:28.09TheMasterMind1it works in oz
21:28.11George-treke|ho1e: beat you beat you :)
21:28.12treke|ho1eProblem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard
21:28.24George-;)
21:28.25treke|ho1eGeorge-: bastard
21:28.31George-treke|ho1e: =P
21:28.57TheMasterMind1w00t
21:28.59TheMasterMind1mplayer rc2 is out
21:29.11TheMasterMind1but we compile from cvs anyway :)
21:29.20George-heh
21:40.33j0shcan u run opie on sharp's rom ?
21:40.44George-$£%*(&"$(*%
21:40.49George-~lart j0sh
21:40.54kergothj0sh: for what?
21:40.59kergothj0sh: you just said you hate the opie package manager
21:41.15j0shwhy doesnt it work tho?
21:41.20kergothworks flawlessly here.
21:41.20j0shnothing installed right lol
21:41.26kergothit just doesnt work for _you_
21:41.26George-kergoth: take a break, write a script to keep telling ibot to lart someone every 6 seconds :)
21:41.43George-Never had any trouble with ANY of the opie package managers here
21:41.45kergothGeorge-: hah, nobody'd notice
21:41.47kergothGeorge-: ;)
21:41.55George-kergoth: haha
21:42.34George-void lart(QString person)
21:42.35George-{
21:42.53ZERO_Kanyone tried this new motocross game?
21:42.54kergothreturn ibot->lart(person);
21:43.27George-for (i=1;i++;i<20)
21:43.28George-{
21:44.10George-cout << "ibot lart " << person;
21:44.19George-blah
21:44.20George-whatever
21:45.35kergothfor(i=0;i<=sizeof(people)/sizeof(person); i++){ do { ibot->lart(person); } while(person->intelligence <= IDIOT);}
21:45.38kergothblah
21:45.40kergothi'm bored, can you tell?
21:45.44kergothi've taken one call today
21:45.48kergothand i'm stuck here for 2 more hours
21:46.10George-haha
21:46.38George-ibot lart kergoth
21:46.45treke|ho1esuckage
21:46.47kergothibot: be zippy
21:46.52George-ibot lart kergoth
21:46.59kergothhah
21:47.06George-haha
21:47.06kergothtreke|ho1e: bastard :)
21:47.11George-ibot shoot kergoth
21:47.13ACTION shoots kergoth in the head.
21:47.22George-ibot shoot george
21:47.23George-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
21:47.29George-good, he's forgotten
21:47.37treke|ho1eibot: much bigger
21:47.38i don't know, treke|ho1e
21:47.41treke|ho1eibot: but not much brighter
21:47.42wish i knew, treke|ho1e
21:47.51George-treke|ho1e: fuck off :)
21:48.30kergothi'm the only unix support person here atm
21:48.30kergothfun
21:48.37George-what are everyone else?
21:48.49George-Windoze (gasp) support? ;)
21:48.50kergothmost of them werent here in the first place, the rest left early
21:48.56kergothi got stuck having to stay until close
21:48.56kergothheh
21:49.31treke|ho1ekergoth: just go walk into your bosses office and say "Fuck you, I'm going home"
21:49.36George-rofl
21:49.37treke|ho1eand tell him that I said so
21:49.47George-I bet his boss has gone home ;)
21:49.53kergothtreke|ho1e: he's not here!
21:49.54treke|ho1eit will work. trust me. He'll let you go home
21:49.57treke|ho1eand take tomorrow off
21:50.15George-kergoth: bwahahahahaaha
21:50.37kergothboss had monday, today, and tomorrow off
21:50.39kergothfucker
21:50.46kergothGeorge-: fucker
21:50.52George-kergoth: what's to stop you from going then?
21:51.03treke|ho1ekergoth: I counted about 3 people today :)
21:51.08prpplaguekergoth: digi slave
21:51.15kergoththere are windows techs here, the boss would find out i left
21:51.15George-kergoth: lol, oK i'm sorry ;)
21:51.16kergothheh
21:51.21kergothprpplague: yep
21:51.33George-kergoth: shoot the windows techs...
21:51.45George-kergoth: you don't seem to care about shooting me.. ;)
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21:51.50tbochi
21:51.52treke|ho1ekergoth: you able to do OZ work from there?
21:52.50kergothtreke|ho1e: yeah, i'm working on our keymap atm
21:52.50George-kergoth: at least you're sitting on a linux box
21:52.51kergoth:)
21:52.57tbocgot a problem with debian and my Z - i have to edit /lib/modules/.../modules.usbmap everytime after reboot to be able to connect to the Z ... any idea how to 'fix' this?
21:53.23treke|ho1ekergoth: so it isnt a complete and total waste
21:53.28George-my new printer is crazy
21:53.34treke|ho1egot headphones? :)
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22:00.08kergothtreke|ho1e: nah, but have speakers
22:00.12kergothtreke|ho1e: and theres nobody to annoy
22:00.23kergothi just took my second call of hte day
22:00.26treke|ho1eeven better
22:00.27kergothit was a 5 minute cabling call
22:00.32treke|ho1eheadphone are uncomfortable
22:00.36kergothyea
22:04.07j0shdamn gnuboy is slow ;/
22:04.26ZERO_Kanyone know what the new link to nmap is for the z?
22:04.30ZERO_Kthe old link is dead
22:04.46ZERO_Khttp://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=340
22:04.56ZERO_Kthe d/l link is wrong supposedly
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22:20.59j0shwhat format does tkcPlayer play the best?
22:21.22j0shTkc's video player
22:22.32tys0nI would assume mpeg 1
22:23.04ZERO_Kanyone using opeiplayer?
22:23.25j0shis it good?
22:23.36ZERO_Ki dunno
22:23.40ZERO_Kim askin
22:24.02oGMoZERO_K: fro media?
22:24.02oGMoer
22:24.02oGMosound?
22:24.16ZERO_Ki thought it was supposed ta play both
22:24.18ZERO_Kmabey noit
22:24.25ZERO_Ki was lookin for a good media player
22:24.47ZERO_Kis opei good for mp3s?
22:24.51ZERO_Kopie
22:25.15j0shthis gnuboy is slow as hell
22:25.16j0sh;/
22:26.13tbocj0sh: what do you expect? ;)
22:26.22ZERO_Kcool
22:26.27ZERO_Kjust updated all my apps
22:26.35j0shlol
22:26.45j0shcant the zaurus emulate better than that?
22:26.46j0sh;p
22:26.52oGMoj0sh: GBA's are really cheap now
22:26.59j0shhaha
22:27.00j0sh;P
22:27.01j0shi got one
22:27.01tbocoGMo: but the roms aren't ;P
22:27.02j0shlol
22:27.18oGMoactually, technically, it can, but someone hasn't written a good emulator specifically for it yet
22:27.29oGMotkoc, games are cheap enough
22:27.45oGMoalthough granted not as cheap as downloading the roms but ;)
22:27.57treke|ho1eif you can afford a zaurus... :)
22:28.03oGMotreke|ho1e: yeah ;)
22:28.04oGMowell
22:28.05j0shi just wanna get ldconfig for sharps rom :(
22:28.10j0shi cant use pico or nothing
22:28.11oGMotreke|ho1e: aftre you get the zaurus, though... ;)
22:28.15tbocoGMo: 30eur/game?
22:28.16j0shand i installed libncurses
22:28.34oGMotboc, yeah... pick your games well and you don't need 20 of them
22:28.41treke|ho1ewow. three  three lines from j0sh that seem 100% unreleated
22:28.50oGMobrb
22:28.51treke|ho1eyet he intends to describe the same problem
22:28.53tbocoGMo: btw. the LCD of the GBA is crap iirc
22:29.04j0shheh
22:29.08j0shsounds like packet monkey time
22:29.09j0shlol
22:29.24oGMotboc, it's not that bad, and you can pay the afterburner people a little more and get one prehacked with one of those if you really want
22:29.28oGMoi still haven't installed mine
22:29.40oGMoanyway brb
22:30.03tbocoGMo: yeah, warranty lost, even paid more for the GBA ...
22:30.03j0shit wont take all 86,000 bots to down genuity.net ;/
22:30.11tbocoGMo: sounds like a good deal ;)
22:31.44jzrj0sh: LOL
22:31.59jzrThats classic..
22:32.14jzrSome kid bitch about pico not working then go on about packeting.
22:32.31TheMasterMind1packet monkey?
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22:36.30treke|ho1ej0sh: feel free
22:37.57TheMasterMind1hmm
22:37.59TheMasterMind1pdump sucks
22:38.00TheMasterMind1blah
22:39.15jzrfeels
22:39.17jzrbla
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22:54.49nobsehi... can anyone send me /usr/QtPalmtop.rom/pics/WirelessLAN.png?
22:59.38tbocbtw. does qtopiadesktop work with the newest OZ-release?
22:59.52tbocor what should i use to edit data on my desktop and sync?
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23:14.09kergothtboc: yes, it works
23:15.44tbockergoth: hmm... weird: the sync button's grey
23:16.21tbockergoth: i can ping the Z but qtopiadesktop won't recognize it
23:16.22angrywhat's a food associated with canada
23:17.18treke|ho1emaple syrup
23:17.38jzrcanadian bacon
23:17.38kergothtboc: sounds like you arent on the latest qtopia desktop
23:17.52tbockergoth: 1.6.0
23:18.03tbockergoth: oct, 14
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23:26.52tbockergoth: so is there a newer version available somewhere?
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23:36.51tbockergoth: sorry, my fault ... forgot to set security
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23:50.19boulezAnyone used the D-Link  DCF-660W
23:50.32boulezwireless modem
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