| 00:10.35 | kd3 | !sup |
| 00:10.35 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
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| 00:16.08 | SirRock | anyone know where theres a walkthrough of how to add items that aren't in wowwiki yet |
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| 00:17.46 | Kirkburn|afk | SirRock, http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Item_articles |
| 00:23.27 | Kirkburn | To all, reload the wiki, and check the Village pump! |
| 00:23.40 | foxlit | reloading wiki: 0/1208302GB |
| 00:24.16 | pcj | ...not quite so much foxlit |
| 00:24.18 | Kirkburn | O_O |
| 00:25.00 | foxlit | What about VP? |
| 00:25.20 | foxlit | ah. er. |
| 00:25.27 | pcj | how does it work |
| 00:25.29 | kd3 | only problem with that little dropdown is that it includes the number in the description too |
| 00:25.36 | kd3 | s/description/summary/ |
| 00:26.49 | Kirkburn | The template is Stdsummaries |
| 00:26.58 | Kirkburn | Will try editing it |
| 00:27.36 | Kirkburn | So, er, seems we've been taken down as well now |
| 00:28.11 | Kirkburn | <Angela> the file server went offline. We're getting someone in san jose to go to the colo and bring it back to life |
| 00:28.23 | kd3 | heh, was about to ask if anyone else was having issues |
| 00:29.00 | Kirkburn | The rest of Wikia went a few mins ago |
| 00:29.14 | pcj | gg crashing wikia with your edit summaries kirkburn |
| 00:29.15 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki survived for a while |
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| 00:29.44 | Zurr | wowwiki broken for anyone else? |
| 00:30.00 | kd3 | welp, time to go make dinner |
| 00:30.01 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 00:30.06 | pcj | no, must be on your end zurr |
| 00:30.22 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || Site is down, techs are on it |
| 00:31.13 | Kirkburn | Time for dinner for me too |
| 00:31.49 | foxlit | 500 |
| 00:31.50 | foxlit | yeah |
| 00:32.26 | Zurr | i bet i broke it XD |
| 00:34.29 | pcj | foxbot broke it with its slowness |
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| 00:34.52 | Shirik | death! destruction! I blame Kirkburn. |
| 00:35.00 | Shirik | That is all, night. |
| 00:35.19 | pcj | that was fun |
| 00:37.36 | Zeal | guess it's back now? :S |
| 00:37.42 | Zeal | didn't evne notice it go tbh |
| 00:37.56 | Zeal | and yeah, nice summaries but second what kd3 said |
| 00:38.01 | Shirik|zZz | Neither did I, but it was something I could blame Kirkburn about |
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| 00:41.40 | Zurr | it was working fine a sec minute ago |
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| 00:51.07 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || Site is not down, techs are going back to bed |
| 00:54.39 | pcj | with ur mom |
| 00:54.43 | Kirkburn | Removed the numbers from the stdsummaries |
| 00:54.45 | DuTempete | in my pants! |
| 00:55.00 | Kirkburn | zomg |
| 00:55.01 | pcj | Can't you come up with a better name than STD summaries? |
| 00:55.14 | Kirkburn | yes, I found that funny too :P |
| 00:55.22 | Kirkburn | But I couldn't be bothered to change the code :) |
| 00:55.51 | Kirkburn | Wookipedia changed it. To stdreasons ... |
| 00:59.18 | kd3|still`lagged | wow. 18 seconds. not horrible, but still bad |
| 01:00.15 | Kirkburn | Stupid disclaimer of the day! |
| 01:00.22 | Kirkburn | Please note: No personal information from you is required to edit on Wookieepedia. However, if you feel the need to divulge such information, be aware that it is illegal to do so if you are under the age of 13. |
| 01:00.40 | Kirkburn | Apparently children can be arrested for giving people their name now ... |
| 01:01.44 | Zeal | it's the other way around no? you can't store personal details of people 13 or younger without parental/guardian consent right? |
| 01:02.04 | Zeal | thus wookpedia would be arrested. |
| 01:02.09 | Kirkburn | Fun |
| 01:02.19 | Kirkburn | But I still find it completely silly |
| 01:03.01 | Kirkburn | Who is doing the wrong, exactly? Wookieepedia is storing the info, but the child is willingly giving it |
| 01:03.24 | Kirkburn | Say the child wrote their name on a wall I own, is the wall at fault? Or am I? Or is the child? |
| 01:04.09 | Kirkburn | I can understang the intent, but it sounds ... silly. |
| 01:04.19 | Shirik|zZz | Until you are made aware of it, you aren't |
| 01:04.42 | Shirik|zZz | If you're aware of its being there, and willingly don't remove it, that can be put into question |
| 01:04.45 | DuTempete | You know what I think is silly, Kirkburn? |
| 01:04.57 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:05.26 | Kirkburn | How are you supposed to know the age of the person writing the info? :P |
| 01:07.05 | Kirkburn | About those standard summaries, I've tweaked them a bit, and more suggestions are welcome |
| 01:07.24 | Kirkburn | No, I don't know :P |
| 01:07.29 | DuTempete | You are. :P |
| 01:07.37 | Kirkburn | :O |
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| 01:10.53 | Kirkburn | Classic quote from another wiki channel: |
| 01:10.54 | Kirkburn | <ZaneFrontier> Anyone know a good IP changer? |
| 01:11.00 | Kirkburn | <ZaneFrontier> I need one for my friend |
| 01:11.19 | Kirkburn | It's the kinda thing that would totally fool me, for sure. |
| 01:12.22 | DuTempete | My best friend asked me if she could track her computer by its IP address if it was connected to the internet at someone else's home. :P |
| 01:12.50 | Kirkburn | Well, she could probably track the house at least. |
| 01:13.04 | DuTempete | She doesn't know whose house it's at :P |
| 01:13.13 | Kirkburn | Er. In a sort of "on" or "off" method of tracking |
| 01:13.16 | DuTempete | It was stolen :P |
| 01:13.23 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 01:14.15 | FtH|Daemona | well basically you could script something with openVPN and a script that queries myip.com or so...sending ping backs to your openVPN server at your home... gusess if you can proove |
| 01:14.37 | FtH|Daemona | your machine was stolen the provider will hand overdata on the time data the ping backs were done |
| 01:14.49 | FtH|Daemona | but doing that afterwards? kinda impossible ;) |
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| 01:21.30 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 01:22.00 | Kirkburn | sup? |
| 01:28.31 | DuTempete | Lol... I'm watching a tv show, and one of the main characters was also in a commercial during the break :P |
| 01:32.00 | Kirkburn | Oooh, +1 of Sugar. |
| 01:33.15 | DuTempete | hrmm... Sugar? What does that do? |
| 01:33.59 | Kirkburn | Improves one's sweetness rating |
| 01:34.22 | DuTempete | Ah... why would you want a pitchfork with a higher sweetness rating? |
| 01:34.52 | Kirkburn | Depends what you're into |
| 01:35.01 | Zeal | he lieks to eat the children he kills with it ready flavoured. |
| 01:35.47 | Zeal | makes for a bittersweet ending ;) |
| 01:35.56 | Kirkburn | egad |
| 01:37.08 | DuTempete | hehehe |
| 01:46.12 | ^RaK^ | meh, hitman was a bit disappointing :/ |
| 01:50.28 | DuTempete | Are you surprised? |
| 01:53.21 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Phat Loot Phriday: Bulwark of Azzinoth - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/30/phat-loot-phriday-bulwark-of-azzinoth/ |
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| 01:57.09 | ^RaK^ | I really dont know why i was expecting more tbh :) |
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| 02:10.03 | Hobinheim|ubuntu | holiday pitchfork? candy coated? |
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| 02:13.00 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim|ubuntu, naturally |
| 02:15.20 | DuTempete | What sort of candy? |
| 02:17.27 | DuTempete | I love the Honda Fuel Cell car comercial :P |
| 02:17.36 | Kirkburn | oh? |
| 02:18.00 | DuTempete | typical multi-member action sequence |
| 02:18.04 | DuTempete | but instead of guns |
| 02:18.20 | DuTempete | the actors have bright coloured water pistols, and water balloons :P |
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| 02:18.36 | Kirkburn | awesome |
| 02:19.16 | DuTempete | So, Kirkburn, what sort of candy is your pitchfork made of? |
| 02:22.23 | Kirkburn | Chocolate |
| 02:22.40 | DuTempete | hrmm... Dark or Milk? |
| 02:22.52 | DuTempete | or white? |
| 02:23.26 | Kirkburn | Milk! |
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| 02:36.21 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, http://blag.xkcd.com/2007/11/19/growing-up/ |
| 02:39.14 | DuTempete | OMG!! |
| 02:39.18 | DuTempete | I want a ball pit :( |
| 02:40.03 | Kirkburn | :P |
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| 02:43.49 | Kirkburn | This is a fun game - prevent the cat from escaping - http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/chatnoir/chatnoir.html |
| 02:44.14 | Kirkburn | And here's a montage of water rendering through the years - http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?menu=browser&mode=article&article_id=622718&entity_id=-1&image_id=741106&page=2 |
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| 03:00.58 | DuTempete | night night! |
| 03:01.03 | pcj_2 | night :) |
| 03:05.38 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
| 03:05.43 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 214 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 3mins 34secs. |
| 03:07.27 | Kirkburn | oh this is cool - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jFwL6iFDk9Q |
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| 03:18.07 | Kirkburn | pcj, glad to see you came to your senses >_> |
| 03:18.31 | pcj | :P |
| 03:19.36 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF2278.jpg |
| 03:19.49 | Kaso | On my next door neighbours door.. |
| 03:20.23 | Kirkburn | .... |
| 03:21.09 | Kaso | My name is Jonny, but somehow i doubt it is refering to me :( |
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| 04:01.19 | pcj | how exciting |
| 04:02.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | lol |
| 04:02.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | G'night! |
| 04:02.40 | Fisker- | it's morning n00b |
| 04:02.41 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 04:18.45 | italy | so uh |
| 04:18.58 | italy | i get stuck at connecting when logging into wow |
| 04:23.53 | Kaso | A common occurance when the login server is too busy |
| 04:24.14 | Kaso | just keep on trying eventually you will get through |
| 04:25.27 | italy | uh |
| 04:25.34 | italy | i don't think so |
| 04:25.41 | italy | i've been trying for hours |
| 04:26.24 | Kaso | Still could be a busy auth server, has there been realm restarts on a patch or something? |
| 04:26.38 | italy | this is 1.11 |
| 04:26.41 | italy | i just installed |
| 04:26.56 | italy | it doesn't get pass anything |
| 04:27.35 | Kaso | well old version could be the issue, use the wowwiki patch list to grab a copy of the updates to 2.3.0 and manually install them then try again |
| 04:27.42 | italy | i am |
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| 05:31.13 | italy | it didn't work |
| 05:31.14 | italy | WTF |
| 05:31.20 | italy | i have the ports forwarded and everything |
| 05:31.23 | italy | it works on my friend's computer |
| 05:33.42 | Kaso | still getting stuck on "Connecting"? |
| 05:33.51 | Kaso | not "Could not connect" or something similar |
| 05:34.26 | italy | yeah it gets stuck |
| 05:34.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | You're patched up to 2.3? |
| 05:34.56 | italy | yep |
| 05:35.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | weird |
| 05:35.16 | quiescens | sleeptyping |
| 05:35.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm surprised kaso is still up :P |
| 05:35.56 | Kaso | i was going to goto sleep but then a friend from america pmed me so i gotta at least chat a while |
| 05:35.59 | Bibi | can I surprise you too Kirkburn|sleep ? |
| 05:36.38 | Dotted | i just woke up |
| 05:36.39 | Kaso | italy, tried pinging/tracert ing the auth server you're using |
| 05:36.43 | Dotted | you bastards |
| 05:37.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | back to bed .... goodnight! |
| 05:38.05 | Kaso | italy, if you're on EU open up a cmd window, type in "tracert eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 05:38.29 | italy | nope unreacheable |
| 05:39.31 | Kaso | what error ? |
| 05:39.58 | italy | tracert eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 05:40.02 | italy | tracert eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 05:40.15 | italy | 1 Destination host unreachable. |
| 05:40.52 | Kaso | well then it sounds like you have some issues on your local network |
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| 05:42.07 | Zeal | dammit, why is mirc refusing to draw my bmp >_< |
| 05:42.36 | Kaso | mIRC draws things? |
| 05:43.21 | italys | sweet |
| 05:43.26 | italys | i think i am going to get my money back |
| 05:43.31 | Zeal | ./drawpic but to be exact, render. |
| 05:43.41 | Kaso | whyso italys ? |
| 05:43.52 | italys | i really don't know why this doesn't work |
| 05:44.02 | italys | my friend and I are using the same setup |
| 05:44.14 | Zeal | you can't contact the auth servers? |
| 05:44.16 | Kaso | are you using the same network? |
| 05:44.32 | italys | Zeal nope |
| 05:44.36 | Zeal | sounds like an isp routing issue then |
| 05:44.36 | italys | Kaso yes |
| 05:44.41 | italys | i tried 3 other external IPs |
| 05:44.50 | italys | that happen to be open in my area |
| 05:45.11 | Zeal | your friend can contact them on the same network? :s |
| 05:45.16 | italys | yes |
| 05:45.20 | italys | he can login |
| 05:45.27 | Zeal | wel lthat makes no sense then, soemthing up with you pc. |
| 05:45.28 | Kaso | got any local firewalls or similar installed? |
| 05:45.40 | Kaso | windows firewall turned on? |
| 05:45.49 | Kaso | bad hosts file ? |
| 05:45.55 | italys | i looked at my hosts file |
| 05:46.00 | italys | i have my firewalls turned off |
| 05:48.06 | Kaso | Does "nslookup eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" work?# |
| 05:48.53 | italys | yeah |
| 05:50.32 | Zeal | tbh i can't even tracert it either, dropping halfway through telia's network. |
| 05:51.40 | Kaso | try "telnet eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com 3724" does that get you to a blank screen where you can type stuff? |
| 05:51.57 | italys | nope |
| 05:52.22 | Zeal | lol@telia.net broken. |
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| 05:52.53 | Kaso | yah it definately is a network issue either local to your or on your isp end of the network |
| 05:53.41 | Kaso | if it doesnt fix soon ring isp/talk to system admin |
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| 05:55.25 | Zeal | taken a few weeks for bt to fix a routing issue to hlj.com : / |
| 05:55.41 | Zeal | had to use a proxy to view it for a while, lol. |
| 05:56.23 | Kaso | doesnt BT stealth block /b/ of 4chan ? |
| 05:57.58 | kaoz66 | hey i have a WoW question if anyones interested |
| 05:58.13 | Kaso | ~just ask |
| 05:58.14 | infobot | just ask your question - do not ask to ask. when you ask, ask all on one line - tell us what you did, what you saw, and what you expected to see. |
| 05:58.25 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.09 | kaoz66 | I am new to WoW (i just baught the battle chest set) Pumped up been reading and learning about the game (although i am familiar from spending hours watching friends play an talk about it) |
| 05:59.37 | Zeal | they used to kaso, haven't for quite a while now. |
| 05:59.54 | kaoz66 | My quest goes as is :: I am going to play a Gnome Rogue, Would the Professions "Mining, and Engineering" be a good set for this race/class |
| 06:00.03 | Kaso | Ah thats good then, im not sure i appricate people telling me what i can and cannot see |
| 06:00.10 | Zeal | indeed |
| 06:00.13 | Zeal | pissed me off. |
| 06:00.47 | Zeal | not that i frequent that cesspool |
| 06:01.02 | Kaso | No me neither, but its the principle :> |
| 06:01.10 | Zeal | indded ^_^ |
| 06:01.14 | Kaso | kaoz66, engineering is often seen on rogues for the bombs and trinkets and whatnot you can make, they are good for pvp which rogues are often a choosen class. |
| 06:01.39 | Kaso | however engineering is usually considered quite difficult to level up |
| 06:02.15 | kaoz66 | actually from what ive seen and read i am going to play a rogue because its a relatively fun solo experience but also really great for raiding later on ( damage givers) |
| 06:02.18 | Kaso | to be honest there is no "best" professions, but the two you have in mind arent a bad choice |
| 06:03.09 | Zeal | herbalism and alchemy are stil lthe best raid supports, annoyingly : / |
| 06:04.56 | kaoz66 | well throwing a bomb i can see as comming in handy and also from what i have heard that the "goblin strings" comes great in really desperate situations |
| 06:04.57 | Zeal | i raided with skin + lwing, barely managed to keep money and raid consumables flowing, lucky enough i could ninja a friend's char to herb farm and had an officer who i could rely on to make my consumables. |
| 06:05.41 | Kaso | herb takes like 3 days to level to max without all that much effort, its no problem to change as you start raiding |
| 06:05.51 | kaoz66 | ive read alot of guides while ive been waiting for my battle chest to arrive |
| 06:06.12 | Zeal | ffs.. why is this bmp not displaying >_< |
| 06:06.29 | Kaso | "battle chest" ? |
| 06:06.44 | Zeal | wow and tbc together |
| 06:07.11 | Kaso | ah i see |
| 06:08.23 | Zeal | hm.. ok, that's odd. it seems bmp's will only render if the entire picture window is on the screen, otherwise it'll just fail to render silenty. -_- |
| 06:08.42 | Zeal | considering this is a toast (popup notifaction) that's rather lame.. |
| 06:10.01 | Zurr | [[User:Mmongame]] <---- Gold seller |
| 06:10.02 | [NewsBot] | Zurr meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mmongame |
| 06:10.20 | bleeter | Zeal: you should use the guifications toaster XML format, that way you could probably have a drop-in goatseman theme =) |
| 06:10.34 | Zeal | ok, nope correction. drawing text to the window removes a bmp.. lol |
| 06:10.35 | Zurr | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mmongame |
| 06:10.44 | Zeal | huh bleeter? |
| 06:10.45 | Kaso | Zurr i like how he signed his spam to VP nicely |
| 06:11.06 | kaoz66 | is there any release date on the new add on king of the linch |
| 06:11.23 | Zeal | nope |
| 06:12.49 | Kaso | "When it's done!" (TM) |
| 06:14.12 | Zeal | lol |
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| 06:14.34 | kaoz66 | the intro movie looks awesome |
| 06:14.41 | Bagginsww | intro to what? |
| 06:14.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Expansion_ideas#Derailed_topic |
| 06:15.08 | kaoz66 | the intro movie to the add on |
| 06:15.15 | Zurr | stop my bot to go to bed and find a gold spammer in recent changes XD |
| 06:15.15 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: 2007 - IGN 100 Top Games - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1886 |
| 06:15.19 | kaoz66 | its on the main site hang on i will get it to u |
| 06:15.22 | Zeal | hey Bagginsww |
| 06:15.25 | Bagginsww | hey |
| 06:16.22 | kaoz66 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html |
| 06:16.32 | kaoz66 | its the 5th or 6th movie down |
| 06:17.10 | kaoz66 | lynch king movie |
| 06:24.09 | Zeal | bah, i was being utter noob, i was clearing the window before i changed the text :p |
| 06:24.53 | kd3|still`lagged | and that site just got reported to the hacks team @ blizz. woo. |
| 06:25.03 | Adys | http://www.randomjoke.com/topic/nerd.php?29869 :D |
| 06:25.43 | Zeal | Adys is alive :o |
| 06:25.48 | Adys | always |
| 06:27.07 | Zeal | and lol |
| 06:27.23 | Bagginsww | hmm always? so adys plans on becoming undead? |
| 06:27.58 | Adys | Im Illidan Bagginsww, alive since 10,000 years and you all think you killed me but Im just feigning death |
| 06:28.15 | Adys | u r not prepraed |
| 06:28.22 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 06:29.47 | Zeal | feign death lagged Adys, Maiev killed you ;) |
| 06:29.55 | Adys | ono |
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| 07:53.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Medivh#Magna.3F |
| 07:53.32 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 07:53.51 | Bagginsww | I can't believe that Fandylic cited from a fan website :p |
| 07:59.55 | amro | esp. one that cites wowwiki :) |
| 08:02.04 | Bagginsww | ya :p |
| 08:02.51 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:02.53 | Zeal | gg |
| 08:06.37 | Zeal | yayness, i now have pretty graphical now playing toasts |
| 08:12.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/High_elf |
| 08:12.21 | Bagginsww | its an article about high elves, should it really have pictures of lbood elves? |
| 08:12.29 | Bagginsww | we have an entire article for blood elves :p |
| 08:12.45 | Bagginsww | That's like showing pictures of wildhammer in the ironforge dwarf page :p |
| 08:15.47 | amro | Bagginsww: which pics? |
| 08:15.58 | Bagginsww | I removed it |
| 08:18.49 | Bagginsww | adys can you add a switch to source needed template, so that it will say something like, "The source of this picture is needed" when applied to pictures? |
| 08:18.51 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Archimonde%27sEnd.JPG |
| 08:18.54 | Bagginsww | for example tehre |
| 08:19.16 | Adys | i was going to bed |
| 08:19.21 | Adys | remind me when im awake again :p |
| 08:23.21 | kd3|still`lagged | ok. I just deleted 200 articles in http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Articles_for_speedy_deletion_explained |
| 08:23.21 | kd3|still`lagged | anything left still has links going to the articles. I'm not up for fixing that tonight |
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| 08:23.29 | kd3|still`lagged | have fun. zzzz |
| 08:25.17 | Bagginsww | gg, after all that work on demographic information I still find people altering it in pages :p |
| 08:26.01 | Bagginsww | people need to understand its is official quotes, not something that should be altered, just because people disagree with them :p |
| 08:28.11 | Hobinheim | getting people to understand. that's hilarious, Bagginsww. you should do comedy |
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| 08:28.27 | Bagginsww | lol, ya its impossible :p |
| 08:29.00 | Bagginsww | thinks we need to add a new cell to the demographic sections, for "demographic citation" |
| 08:29.22 | Bagginsww | generally we try to avoid citations within infobox because it looks bad, :p |
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| 08:39.01 | Bagginsww | hmm additionally we may need a split |
| 08:39.19 | Bagginsww | I mean a new section added to the infobxo |
| 08:39.37 | Bagginsww | something that splits the ingame mechanics info about the area |
| 08:39.39 | Bagginsww | and the lore info |
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| 08:40.56 | Bagginsww | remind me the term is "flagged" right |
| 08:40.56 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 08:41.15 | Bagginsww | for zone alleigence I mean |
| 08:41.24 | amro | pvp? |
| 08:41.48 | Zeal | :S |
| 08:41.49 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 08:42.13 | Zeal | pvp flagged is when you become pvpable. :S |
| 08:42.13 | Bagginsww | I'm trying to figure out the name of the new cell |
| 08:42.34 | Bagginsww | On PvP servers, there are many zones that are flagged as contested territory. In these zones, players from opposing factions can attack each other freely. Thus, you could be fighting monsters by yourself, only to be attacked by a stealthed enemy rogue. PvP servers also enable PvP combat through battlegrounds, attacking enemy guards, and entering enemy capitals. |
| 08:42.38 | Bagginsww | quoted from blizzard |
| 08:42.40 | amro | ally/horde/contested |
| 08:42.50 | amro | just use the little icons |
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| 08:43.05 | Bagginsww | that's what I would sue but people keep on altering the demographics to fit the flagged |
| 08:43.20 | Bagginsww | when lore doesn't necessarily fit the pvp flag types |
| 08:43.28 | Bagginsww | *sue should be Use |
| 08:44.03 | amro | add a note stating that |
| 08:44.07 | Zeal | doesn't seem right flagged used in that way, but meh. |
| 08:44.32 | Bagginsww | i know :p |
| 08:45.03 | Bagginsww | I'm just saying infobox needs a seperate cell to point out the difference inw ords |
| 08:45.23 | Zeal | should be more like "there are many zones that marked as contested territory and will flag players for PvP" or something.. |
| 08:45.29 | Zeal | *that are |
| 08:45.34 | Bagginsww | otherwise people are going to keep removing lore "affiliation" |
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| 08:46.02 | Bagginsww | with the ingame pvp |
| 08:46.07 | Zeal | : / |
| 08:46.27 | Bagginsww | I'm going ot use flagged for now until someone can find another version ;p |
| 08:47.00 | Bagginsww | I mean a better term ;p |
| 08:47.09 | Zeal | and i'm gunna go cook while half asleep and then go to bed. |
| 08:47.15 | Zeal | nn all |
| 08:47.58 | Bagginsww | don't burn the house down LOL |
| 08:48.25 | amro | Bagginsww: use "Faction" |
| 08:48.33 | Bagginsww | ok that works best |
| 08:48.34 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 08:48.45 | Bagginsww | actually we use faction for something else :p |
| 08:49.01 | Bagginsww | its currently set to add the icon to the top of the infobox |
| 08:49.27 | Bagginsww | do you know how to make it both add the icon and possible add info to the demographic section/ |
| 08:49.30 | Bagginsww | *? |
| 08:52.27 | amro | Bagginsww: link |
| 08:52.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_zone |
| 08:53.36 | Bagginsww | basically we need to make it so that if we use faction, it will add the icon above like it currently does, but also adds faction to the demographic section as well |
| 08:54.52 | Bagginsww | I'd recommend a seperation line between the lore section and the gameplay section |
| 08:55.08 | Bagginsww | to point out that its pvp designation, not necessarily lore |
| 09:03.33 | amro | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp |
| 09:03.43 | amro | doesn't Affiliation take care of that though? |
| 09:03.49 | Bagginsww | affiliation is the lore one |
| 09:04.01 | amro | ok |
| 09:04.03 | Bagginsww | this is where we hit the problem |
| 09:04.07 | Bagginsww | people keep on removing lore affiliation |
| 09:04.14 | Bagginsww | to replace it with pvp faction :p |
| 09:04.24 | Bagginsww | like for instance westfall |
| 09:04.28 | amro | should probably replace "Faction" with "Faction (PvP)" |
| 09:04.28 | Bagginsww | its flagged as alliance |
| 09:04.34 | Bagginsww | but its really indepenent according to lore |
| 09:04.49 | Bagginsww | well pvp doesn't necessarily work well too |
| 09:04.55 | Bagginsww | because |
| 09:04.57 | Bagginsww | [[dalaran]] |
| 09:04.58 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/dalaran |
| 09:04.59 | Bagginsww | for example |
| 09:05.09 | Bagginsww | ingame its going to be "neutral" |
| 09:05.18 | Bagginsww | but its "independent" in lore |
| 09:05.51 | Bagginsww | so we need something that points out pvp, but also allows for flagged npcs as well |
| 09:05.54 | amro | how about PvP Status? |
| 09:06.01 | Bagginsww | that might work |
| 09:06.06 | Bagginsww | that covers npcs as well right? |
| 09:06.42 | amro | hm what do you mean? |
| 09:06.59 | Bagginsww | like dalaran |
| 09:07.07 | Bagginsww | its a neutral faction ingame |
| 09:07.17 | Bagginsww | neutral city |
| 09:07.31 | Bagginsww | btw, PVP Status should be above the demographics |
| 09:07.36 | Bagginsww | in its own section |
| 09:07.40 | Bagginsww | fisker shoots himself |
| 09:07.43 | Fisker- | nope |
| 09:07.57 | Fisker- | You "shoot yourself" |
| 09:08.01 | Bagginsww | fisker just save your gun for the zombie apocalypse |
| 09:08.37 | Fisker- | they already got a cure for it n00b! |
| 09:09.05 | Bagginsww | sure... |
| 09:09.17 | Bagginsww | You kind of have to have zombies before you can make a cure |
| 09:09.27 | amro | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp |
| 09:09.42 | Bagginsww | ya I like that much better |
| 09:10.16 | Fisker- | they've already found zombies Bagginsww |
| 09:10.17 | Bagginsww | so now we can use that to mark "contested", "neutral" alliance, and "horde" |
| 09:10.30 | Bagginsww | right... |
| 09:11.38 | amro | the way it is now, "alliance" and "horde" trigger the ally/horde icons, anything else triggers neutral icon |
| 09:11.59 | Bagginsww | still the pvp status needs to be up above in the game section |
| 09:12.17 | Bagginsww | not in the middle of the lore demographics |
| 09:12.37 | Bagginsww | I'd say up there in the level section |
| 09:14.18 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp |
| 09:14.22 | amro | looks ugly though |
| 09:14.41 | Bagginsww | well you see how it already marks the status next to the level/ |
| 09:14.59 | amro | yeah |
| 09:15.05 | amro | and next to the name |
| 09:15.23 | amro | so what do you want it to look like |
| 09:15.44 | Bagginsww | well I think its enough that it shows it next to level |
| 09:15.56 | Bagginsww | we just need to use that on pages like; |
| 09:15.59 | Bagginsww | [[dalaran]] |
| 09:16.00 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/dalaran |
| 09:16.39 | Bagginsww | I'm not sure how to activate that portion though ;p |
| 09:20.14 | amro | adding faction= puts it with affiliation |
| 09:20.29 | amro | wait nevermind |
| 09:20.52 | amro | as I thought, you need to add level= |
| 09:21.31 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 09:22.01 | amro | I'm changing it to put faction on a seperate line |
| 09:22.03 | amro | regradless of level |
| 09:22.14 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp |
| 09:22.43 | Bagginsww | k |
| 09:23.08 | Bagginsww | ya that's looking nicer |
| 09:23.58 | Bagginsww | I think your almost ready to put it on the main template :) |
| 09:25.33 | amro | what else does it need? |
| 09:25.57 | Bagginsww | I think its ready |
| 09:26.08 | Bagginsww | not sure it really needs the mini icon with the big version above though |
| 09:27.18 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp |
| 09:27.29 | Bagginsww | ya that's better |
| 09:28.00 | Bagginsww | ok now to put into the main template :) |
| 09:29.10 | Bagginsww | ok I'll go fix dalaran now heh |
| 09:29.18 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/dalaran |
| 09:29.23 | amro | already did |
| 09:29.52 | Bagginsww | not quite it still shows neutral in the lore section |
| 09:30.06 | amro | because that's put in affiliation |
| 09:30.09 | amro | just remove it |
| 09:30.15 | Bagginsww | ya that's what I was referring to :0 |
| 09:30.19 | Bagginsww | *;) |
| 09:30.25 | Bagginsww | by fixing it |
| 09:31.17 | Bagginsww | wonders if we should have a heading above the demographic section? Something pointing out that it is from lore or something. |
| 09:32.19 | Bagginsww | "official demographics" or something? |
| 09:33.00 | Bagginsww | we can worry about that later though heh |
| 09:34.37 | Bagginsww | thanks for the help |
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| 09:36.12 | Bagginsww | as I said, thanks for the help |
| 09:36.30 | Bagginsww | btw you up for cleaning up another one of these templates? |
| 09:36.49 | amro | ah np |
| 09:36.51 | amro | ok |
| 09:37.12 | Bagginsww | ok this one is improving infobox instance |
| 09:37.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Stratholme |
| 09:37.36 | Bagginsww | for example we don't have optional government, ruler, afiliation sections |
| 09:38.13 | Bagginsww | and end boss should probably be in its own section, since its not really a lore thing. |
| 09:38.48 | Bagginsww | and if we followed the pattern of the infobox zone, location should be last, right? |
| 09:40.10 | amro | yeah, and boss should be in Instance Info |
| 09:40.17 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 09:40.21 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Temp is this what you meant? |
| 09:40.28 | amro | for infobox zone |
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| 09:49.19 | Bagginsww | infobox zone was what we are just working on ya |
| 09:49.28 | Bagginsww | I might have misnamed it :p |
| 09:49.31 | Bagginsww | whatever its called :p |
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| 09:57.22 | amro | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Amro/Infobox_instance, added optional rulers and government |
| 09:57.54 | Bagginsww | you just need to do a switch for ruler/rulers |
| 09:58.42 | Bagginsww | also needs "afilliation" |
| 09:58.48 | Bagginsww | *affiliation |
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| 10:02.17 | Bagginsww | but ya infobox zone has a switch that will add the plural to rulers if need be |
| 10:07.20 | Bagginsww | well I'm off to bed,t ake care all |
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| 15:05.18 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: A pastoral Elwynn scene - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/around-azeroth-a-pastoral-elwynn-scene/ |
| 15:14.52 | Fisker- | bah i hate you Dotted |
| 15:15.49 | Dotted | ME3 |
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| 15:24.12 | iMeanie | i made it! |
| 15:24.16 | iMeanie | nice! |
| 15:37.45 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Did GameSpot Commit Brand Suicide with Jeff Gerstmann Firing? - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/12/01/did-gamespot-commit-brand-suicide-with-jeff-gerstmann-firing/ |
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| 15:47.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | omg, my housemate is so awesome, he got me bread from a far away supermarket that's still so fresh, it's still warm. |
| 15:50.13 | Dotted | so what you are saying Kirkburn|sleep, is that your housemate is a reckless driver? |
| 15:50.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cyclist |
| 15:50.57 | Dotted | so? |
| 15:51.10 | Dotted | he is a reckless cycklist then |
| 15:51.12 | Dotted | -k |
| 15:51.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | :) |
| 16:03.32 | Chompers | Kirkburn|sleep: he wants to sleep with you |
| 16:03.37 | Chompers | no doubt about it |
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| 16:07.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | :O |
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| 16:23.22 | Fisker- | why are people taking this gamespot deal so "OMG"-ish? |
| 16:23.23 | Fisker- | :O |
| 16:23.47 | Teomyr | omg gamespot |
| 16:23.52 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 16:30.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Shwaa? |
| 16:30.49 | Kirkburn|afk | The dude getting fired? |
| 16:31.08 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 16:31.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Cause if true, it's a massive blow for their credibility |
| 16:32.37 | Fisker- | gamereviewers don't have credibility |
| 16:32.43 | Fisker- | that's the point |
| 16:32.48 | Fisker- | they already lost that a long time ago |
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| 16:34.15 | Fisker- | atleast stuff isn't as fucked up there as it is here |
| 16:34.50 | Fisker- | Some reviewer getting interviewed about Halo 3 "We gave it that good a rating because everyone else were doing it" |
| 16:35.21 | Kirkburn|afk | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=juOQhTuzDQ0 |
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| 16:38.48 | Kaso | i must admit i had to think for a moment to work that one |
| 16:38.56 | Kaso | maybe 2 whole seconds |
| 16:41.21 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Friday at the TCG World Championships - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/friday-at-the-tcg-world-championships/ |
| 16:48.49 | Kaso | i quite like this show, checking out other clips on yt, one about feet and yards which i got right and not the american, even though i dont use imperial ever. |
| 16:49.39 | Kaso | they fight so hard to keep that god forsaken system they should at least know it |
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| 17:05.18 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: World of Warcraft - Evolution - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/wow-moviewatch-world-of-warcraft-evolution/ |
| 17:06.38 | Hobinheim | wow dalaran is becoming a major capital city? |
| 17:06.48 | Hobinheim | also, i created articles for eql and necrosis :( |
| 17:14.22 | Dotted | i just didnt read that :( |
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| 17:38.27 | Steik | join #halopedia |
| 17:38.35 | Steik | sorry |
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| 18:41.21 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Insider Weekly - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/wow-insider-weekly/ |
| 19:26.28 | Zeal | evening |
| 19:33.17 | Zeal | Kirkburn|afk, i can't think of any particular ones other than the "+" you use, but seems those summaries could use some talk related ones. |
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| 19:39.39 | Bagginsww | I have a suggestion that we turn npc/mob statistics for warcraft RTS games into tables, that are automatically "hidden" by default |
| 19:39.44 | Bagginsww | as they are ugly eyesores |
| 19:39.52 | Zeal | lol |
| 19:39.54 | Bagginsww | that people try to insert into various topics |
| 19:40.14 | Bagginsww | if people are really interested in that info then they can click on unhide option :p |
| 19:40.38 | Bagginsww | this way the lore or background information is promoted over the gameplay information |
| 19:40.51 | Bagginsww | anyone want to work on a table/template for that? |
| 19:41.30 | pcj | Would seem to be an extension of the infobox |
| 19:42.02 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:47.51 | Zeal | eew |
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| 19:55.29 | Dotted | my ass hurts |
| 19:56.10 | Bagginsww | zeall the problem is that information is eww to begin with |
| 19:56.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Eldritch_Deathlord |
| 19:56.35 | Bagginsww | look what it does for a topic like that |
| 19:56.46 | Bagginsww | its too colorful |
| 19:56.48 | Bagginsww | its ugly |
| 19:56.55 | Bagginsww | and its longer than the main topic |
| 19:57.09 | Bagginsww | this is the reason we have been splitting them out of topics usually |
| 19:57.19 | Bagginsww | they could be allowed in the topic if they are hidden somehow |
| 20:01.21 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Remember your gems - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/remember-your-gems/ |
| 20:03.45 | Zeal | i don't mind it, but it does need better formatting. |
| 20:04.04 | Zeal | the eww was for the mention of extending the infobox :p |
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| 20:21.53 | Bagginsww | anyone want to make a cheat code header? |
| 20:22.07 | Bagginsww | generic so it can be used for all rts games |
| 20:31.48 | Zeal | woot, my toasts now fade in and out too. |
| 20:55.12 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Blizzard Entertainment @ GDC 2008 Feb 18-22 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1887 |
| 20:56.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shattered_Isles |
| 20:56.32 | Bagginsww | where does the term shattered isles come from? |
| 20:56.37 | Bagginsww | I can't find it int eh mission briefings |
| 20:56.48 | Bagginsww | and I didn't find it in the manual |
| 20:57.35 | Zeal | don't recall |
| 20:58.11 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Shattered_Isles |
| 20:58.47 | Zeal | possibly map name, perhaps wc3 misssion. |
| 20:59.07 | Bagginsww | its broken isles in WC3 |
| 20:59.20 | Zeal | ah, that's the one i was thinking of then |
| 20:59.24 | Bagginsww | if shattered isles exists is an obscure term |
| 21:05.24 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Addon Spotlight: WhoDrop - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/addon-spotlight-whodrop/ |
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| 21:13.51 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Forsaken#Wishes.2C_miracles.2C_oh_my.21 |
| 21:13.52 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 21:15.23 | Bagginsww | the only exception being if a Blizzard official actually uses canon instead of lore :p |
| 21:15.47 | Bagginsww | and we are specifically quoting the employee |
| 21:19.48 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
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| 21:35.11 | Sky2042 | moooorning |
| 21:35.20 | DuTempete | *yawn* |
| 21:35.53 | Zeal | hey DuTempete, Sky2042 |
| 21:36.04 | DuTempete | sup Zeal |
| 21:36.36 | DuTempete | oh neat... original Stargate is on Schi Fi atm :P |
| 21:36.44 | DuTempete | *schi |
| 21:36.47 | DuTempete | damnit! |
| 21:36.49 | DuTempete | *sci! |
| 21:36.50 | Sky2042 | loooool |
| 21:37.36 | Zeal | DuTempete, been hitting the drink early? :P |
| 21:37.46 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:38.46 | pcj | hi dutempete :) |
| 21:38.56 | Zeal | Bagginsww, seems the person didn't bother to read the policies, but has good intentions, so hopefully they won't argue against it. |
| 21:39.08 | Bagginsww | ya they aren't a problem |
| 21:39.17 | Bagginsww | you mean katrian right? |
| 21:39.20 | Bagginsww | *Katrina |
| 21:39.22 | DuTempete | hi pcj! |
| 21:39.24 | Zeal | aye |
| 21:39.37 | pcj | sup |
| 21:39.45 | Sky2042 | getting crowded in here :o |
| 21:39.48 | DuTempete | and no, zeal, no drinking. I've just been napping. |
| 21:39.53 | Zeal | lol |
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| 22:02.09 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Level_70_Elite_Tauren_Chieftain |
| 22:03.22 | Sky2042 | nah |
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| 22:27.19 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: My wife likes to tame wolves in swamps - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/my-wife-likes-to-tame-wolves-in-swamps/ |
| 23:14.30 | Sky2042 | so, you aren't really afk, eh?! |
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| 23:16.53 | Kirkburn|afk | shush, you |
| 23:17.21 | Bagginsww | is he ever? |
| 23:17.24 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 23:20.01 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 23:20.14 | Sky2042 | now why would someone be using ie6 though? :| |
| 23:22.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Retcon_speculation |
| 23:23.18 | Bagginsww | kirkburn since the both retcon pages were speculation I've renamed, and made a disambig page |
| 23:23.20 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: It's beginning to look a lot like Warcraft - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/01/its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-warcraft/ |
| 23:25.07 | Bagginsww | is it me but doesn't the Alliance need a band? |
| 23:27.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, lol |
| 23:28.42 | Bagginsww | as for the two spinoff retcon pages, I'd recommend we make them alphabetical :p |
| 23:30.21 | Bagginsww | if there was a more neutral term for retcons I'd suggest move both pages to that term :p |
| 23:30.32 | Bagginsww | potential discrepencies? |
| 23:31.31 | Bagginsww | I mean honestly we need to reat retcons like we currently treat canon really, LOL |
| 23:31.35 | Bagginsww | *treat |
| 23:31.52 | Bagginsww | its an arbritrary term that can be misued as well. |
| 23:43.07 | DuTempete | I'm crushing your head! |
| 23:43.09 | DuTempete | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Tyzik |
| 23:43.18 | Bagginsww | kirkburn you around? |
| 23:43.39 | Bagginsww | I need you to check over rewrite on the lore policy I'm working on |
| 23:43.40 | Kirkburn|afk | shurely not |
| 23:43.51 | Bagginsww | under the conflict section |
| 23:43.54 | Bagginsww | [[lore]] |
| 23:43.54 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/lore |
| 23:43.57 | Bagginsww | Two or more sources of lore may conflict on significant points. However, it is not WoWWiki's purpose to simply ignore older lore as if it never existed, but rather show the evolution of the story, and all alternate events. Perceived discrepencies may be retcons, flavor lore, or simply errors. All versions should be compared and contrasted with citations, in order to portray a true publishing history. |
| 23:43.57 | Bagginsww | Please note that attempts to reconcile conflicting versions of lore fall under the category of '''Speculation''', and are governed by the guidelines under that section. Official reconcilation is allowed if properly cited. |
| 23:44.01 | Bagginsww | to replace what is currently there |
| 23:44.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Sounds very reasonable and clear to me |
| 23:45.11 | Bagginsww | k. |
| 23:46.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, you mentioned moving the policy pages |
| 23:46.56 | Sky2042 | i noted that you noted :P |
| 23:47.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal also mentioned that |
| 23:47.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I think it's a good idea |
| 23:47.45 | Kirkburn|afk | However, I'm not sure what naming scheme is best |
| 23:48.21 | DuTempete | Where did you mention that, Sky2042? |
| 23:48.30 | Zeal | me likey Bagginsww |
| 23:48.33 | Sky2042 | on teh wiki |
| 23:48.40 | Sky2042 | excuse me, on irc |
| 23:48.43 | Bagginsww | thanks zeal |
| 23:49.24 | Zeal | bah, just had to write a scallable text wrapper for my toasts. |
| 23:50.15 | DuTempete | I must've missed that convo :( |
| 23:50.15 | Zeal | bit lazy, i only bothered to wrap and 3 different sizes, 18, 16 and 12. |
| 23:50.23 | Zeal | *at |
| 23:50.53 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, you should be around more ;) |
| 23:51.17 | DuTempete | Should I? |
| 23:51.29 | Zeal | annoying amip doesn't support artwork in id3 tags :/ |
| 23:51.34 | DuTempete | Why is that? |
| 23:51.47 | Zeal | so he can enjoy your company more :p |
| 23:52.02 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, cause you > * |
| 23:52.21 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Lore |
| 23:52.23 | DuTempete | Lol... |
| 23:52.24 | Bagginsww | alrighty then |
| 23:52.42 | DuTempete | I'm greater than asterik? |
| 23:53.04 | Kirkburn|afk | It means "everything", silly :) |
| 23:53.12 | DuTempete | ah, I see :P |
| 23:54.13 | Kirkburn|afk | :O |
| 23:55.52 | DuTempete | so what's the idea with the policy pages? |
| 23:55.56 | DuTempete | Sky2042 |
| 23:56.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Giving the articles grammatically correct names |
| 23:56.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Rather than weird subsubpages :P |
| 23:57.01 | Zeal | dunno about sky's plans, but my thoughts are on the village pump |
| 23:57.08 | DuTempete | kks |
| 23:57.37 | Sky2042 | what Kirkburn|afk said. |
| 23:59.13 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: "Usually"? |
| 23:59.30 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 23:59.37 | Bagginsww | all undercase in Rise of the Horde |
| 23:59.44 | Sky2042 | yeah, i get that |
| 23:59.45 | Bagginsww | mixed in the rpg usually |
| 23:59.51 | Sky2042 | why change the wording though |
| 23:59.59 | Bagginsww | I've discussed the phenomena in Forsaken |
