| 00:00.20 | Sky2042 | anyones you haven't touched. |
| 00:02.48 | piu | I'll queue up Blasted Lands, Burning Steppes and Dun Morogh |
| 00:04.36 | piu | Blasted lands running now, 10 sec between pages (give it a couple mins) |
| 00:05.03 | Sky2042 | sounds good |
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| 00:06.07 | piu | I'm going to dissolve some noobs now |
| 00:06.40 | pcj | k |
| 00:07.04 | Sky2042 | piu: in what? |
| 00:07.06 | Sky2042 | water? |
| 00:07.08 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 00:08.45 | Kirkburn | *sigh* I have to kill every damn dragonkin before Eranikus |
| 00:09.23 | pcj | yeah lol |
| 00:09.25 | pcj | it's a bitch |
| 00:10.19 | Kirkburn | I'd better not die on Eranikus himself |
| 00:11.00 | pcj | he's a pushover |
| 00:11.21 | Sky2042 | did they ever lower his level from 55? |
| 00:11.46 | Kirkburn | Nope, not yet |
| 00:11.49 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 00:11.53 | Kirkburn | Probably is in 2.3 |
| 00:11.55 | Sky2042 | have fun with that one |
| 00:11.59 | Sky2042 | what level are you? |
| 00:12.02 | Kirkburn | 70 |
| 00:12.05 | Kaso | i remeber the first time i did sunken temple |
| 00:12.11 | Kaso | it was so awesome |
| 00:12.14 | Sky2042 | well, that should be easy |
| 00:12.22 | Kaso | when i saw that room full of dragons i was like "holy crap!" |
| 00:12.26 | Kirkburn | Gah, still more mobs to kill |
| 00:12.36 | Sky2042 | Kaso: lol! |
| 00:13.28 | Kirkburn | This is only me second run of ST ever |
| 00:14.21 | Kaso | really? wow |
| 00:14.29 | Kaso | its an awesome instance i like it very much |
| 00:14.38 | Kaso | if only for chained essense of eranikus |
| 00:15.31 | Kirkburn | I'm going through doing every quest for every instance |
| 00:15.40 | Kirkburn | ST is how far I've got |
| 00:15.49 | Kirkburn | Awesome, but confusing and long |
| 00:16.02 | piu | Sky2042: I dissolve noobs in their own self-loathing |
| 00:16.09 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:17.01 | piu | blasted lands done, btw |
| 00:17.52 | Sky2042 | noted |
| 00:19.35 | Kirkburn | I also finished ZF earlier |
| 00:19.53 | Kirkburn | After this, it leaves BRD >_< |
| 00:20.00 | Kirkburn | Marshal Windsor ftw |
| 00:20.17 | Kirkburn | BRD and LBRS may be pushing my limits though |
| 00:20.28 | Sky2042 | what are you doing, soloing them? |
| 00:20.31 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 00:20.48 | Sky2042 | brd shouldn't be a problem, i don't think |
| 00:20.57 | Kaso | Ive soloed BRD with my priest, but it was very very hard |
| 00:21.06 | Kaso | i died multiple times |
| 00:21.23 | Kaso | also i had holy nova for the lyincum thingy |
| 00:21.25 | pcj | i solo fel reavers |
| 00:21.45 | Kaso | BRD would have been so awesome an instance, if it wasnt desgined like a complete maze. |
| 00:21.54 | Kaso | When you have someone who knows the way around, it's really fun |
| 00:22.11 | Kirkburn | Eranikus down! :P |
| 00:22.15 | Kirkburn | omg, that was easy |
| 00:22.16 | pcj | I preferred UBRS in its day |
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| 00:22.56 | pcj | wow i feel like i'm in a staples commercial |
| 00:22.58 | Kaso | 15men UBRS always made me want to suicide |
| 00:23.25 | Kaso | we did some 5man UBRS runs whilst we were doing Naxx, that was pretty fun |
| 00:23.44 | pcj | yeah |
| 00:23.47 | Kaso | some noob in our guild re-rolled and wanted attunements |
| 00:23.56 | pcj | too bad you can't solo it |
| 00:24.11 | Kirkburn | Handing in the quests will take almost as long as the instance itself >< |
| 00:24.30 | Kirkburn | Come level 80, we'll see |
| 00:24.42 | Kaso | Have you done the whole egg/hakkar thing Kirkburn ? |
| 00:24.47 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 00:26.22 | Kaso | I dont think ive ever seen a single pug do that |
| 00:26.42 | Kaso | The Chain Essense thing in ST makes the whole thing worthwhile |
| 00:26.46 | Kirkburn | lol, it's pretty easy due to the low aggro radius |
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| 00:26.56 | Kirkburn | Fairly lucrative run, 44g + stuff for AH |
| 00:27.13 | Kaso | I always wanted the purple robe that dropped in ST |
| 00:27.47 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dragon%27s_Call would have been pretty cool |
| 00:28.20 | Kaso | Oh man! 2.3 theyve turned the awesome healer robe into an even more awesome dps robe |
| 00:28.25 | Kaso | but poor healers :< |
| 00:28.29 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12462 |
| 00:28.38 | Kaso | 30 spirit would have been so awesome back in the day |
| 00:31.15 | Sky2042 | wow |
| 00:31.19 | Sky2042 | sweet robe now |
| 00:31.25 | Sky2042 | still a little heavy on spirit |
| 00:31.42 | Kaso | Spirit is great you non-priest heathen! |
| 00:33.27 | Kirkburn | I've only ever had one, possibly two epics |
| 00:33.33 | Kirkburn | Tier 0.5 >< |
| 00:34.15 | Kirkburn | In fact, probably just the gloves |
| 00:34.40 | Kirkburn | Er, ignoring mounts |
| 00:35.27 | Kaso | I remeber when i was just starting wow, seeing transendance and thinking i'd never get anything close to that, then i remeber the feeling when i got my first transendance :> |
| 00:35.33 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:35.59 | Kirkburn | Hmm, are there any epic quest rewards? |
| 00:36.18 | Kaso | Do you count the grindy quests like silithus? |
| 00:36.30 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21190 |
| 00:36.34 | Kaso | i got that |
| 00:37.03 | Kirkburn | Preferably not grindy :P |
| 00:37.31 | Kaso | That ring is still *the* ring to wear when aoeing almost |
| 00:37.42 | Kaso | when you are aoeing mobs, you have constant 132 + dmg |
| 00:38.19 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=1926&p=21255 |
| 00:39.10 | Kirkburn | Gawd, if people keep extending the race links template eventually we'll have to say "Thrall's orc", "Mulgore tauren" |
| 00:39.26 | Kirkburn | "Gnomeregan gnomes" |
| 00:39.34 | Adys | soon kaso =P |
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| 00:40.35 | Kaso | Kirkburn, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22700#reward-from |
| 00:40.38 | Kaso | sorta ... |
| 00:40.59 | Kirkburn | lol Naxx |
| 00:41.03 | Kirkburn | peasy ^^ |
| 00:41.08 | Kaso | also, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21517 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21526 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21527 |
| 00:41.12 | Kaso | from the AQ questline |
| 00:41.19 | Kirkburn | I wonder if UBRS will be reasonable to solo at 80 |
| 00:41.45 | Kaso | for paladins prob |
| 00:42.56 | Kirkburn | Why? |
| 00:43.06 | Kirkburn | <-- hunter |
| 00:43.12 | Kaso | Well if any class can solo and instance it's a paladin imo |
| 00:43.37 | Kaso | UBRS has too many large group pulls that you'd need effective aoe for |
| 00:43.53 | Kirkburn | I was dealing with 6 mob pulls in ST |
| 00:44.28 | Kirkburn | Level difference should be similar |
| 00:44.28 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/ring.jpg |
| 00:44.34 | Kaso | God i hated myself so much that day |
| 00:44.54 | Kirkburn | uh, k |
| 00:45.11 | Kirkburn | why? |
| 00:45.28 | Kaso | Solo grinded that ring, and the CC rep. |
| 00:45.52 | Kaso | I dispised every minute of the grinding, but i had nothing better to do in-game so i did it |
| 00:46.52 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 00:47.38 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/Kaso2.jpg |
| 00:47.50 | Kaso | There's me all tier 1'd |
| 00:48.31 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/raggy.jpg |
| 00:48.35 | Kaso | Rawr, first raggy! |
| 00:49.23 | pcj | you can never solo UBRS :P |
| 00:49.30 | pcj | the first boss requires 3 people to summon |
| 00:49.38 | Kaso | Ah, that is very true |
| 00:51.34 | Kirkburn | >< |
| 00:51.50 | Kirkburn | And for soloing ZG, I guess we'll need level 90 |
| 00:52.56 | Kaso | Well ZG is more of an issue with Skull-bosses |
| 00:53.11 | Kirkburn | So, I'm left with BRS, BRS, Scholo, Strat, DM |
| 00:54.29 | Kirkburn | Which should I do? |
| 00:54.39 | Kaso | BRS or BRS i think |
| 00:54.52 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 00:54.59 | Kaso | "So, I'm left with BRS, BRS" |
| 00:55.07 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:55.10 | Kirkburn | BRD >< |
| 00:55.24 | Kaso | do you know the way around brd well? |
| 00:56.07 | Kirkburn | Been there a few times, maybe 4 or 5 |
| 00:56.33 | Kaso | If you're confident you wont get lost i'd do BRD |
| 00:58.18 | Kirkburn | I've got to do some lead-in quests in Burning Steppes anyway |
| 00:58.23 | Kirkburn | (I think) |
| 00:59.13 | Kaso | You can easily hit the prison, the ring of law, Bael'Gar, Roccor up near the start, then move though to Darkvire, incendius, then i'd skip the bar bit and do a lava-jump through to the Lyceum, Magmus and Emp. |
| 01:01.22 | Kaso | Hey, clocks just went back |
| 01:02.37 | Kirkburn | So they did! |
| 01:02.48 | Kaso | Oct 28 01:59:14 <Kirkburn>(I think) |
| 01:02.48 | Kaso | Oct 28 01:00:04 <Kaso>You can easily hit the prison, |
| 01:02.48 | Kirkburn | You were a few seconds early though |
| 01:02.57 | Kaso | My Timestamps confused me for a second there |
| 01:03.02 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 01:03.14 | Kirkburn | oh, WoW updated correctly |
| 01:03.21 | Sky2042 | wait, is tonight daylight savings |
| 01:03.22 | Kirkburn | Damn, would have liked to see that tick over :P |
| 01:03.25 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 01:03.28 | Kirkburn | UK |
| 01:03.30 | Kaso | In the UK |
| 01:03.35 | Sky2042 | pft |
| 01:03.43 | Dotted | hah |
| 01:03.51 | Dotted | thx for reminding |
| 01:03.53 | Dotted | ;D |
| 01:04.05 | Dotted | [02:59:25] [+Kaso]: You can easily hit the prison, the ring of law, Bael'Gar, Roccor up near the start, then move though to Darkvire, incendius, then i'd skip the bar bit and do a lava-jump through to the Lyceum, Magmus and Emp. |
| 01:04.06 | Dotted | [02:01:33] [+Kaso]: Hey, clocks just went back |
| 01:04.10 | Dotted | ;P |
| 01:04.33 | Kaso | Good think i noticed, i've got a train to catch tommorrow and no doubt i would've arrived at the wrong time |
| 01:04.53 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 01:05.49 | Dotted | i need to get more tired tho |
| 01:06.10 | Dotted | want to lucid dream |
| 01:06.57 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:09.40 | Dotted | its pwn, actually had one this morning |
| 01:09.49 | Dotted | only for 2 seconds :( |
| 01:11.09 | Sky2042 | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming |
| 01:11.11 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 01:11.13 | Sky2042 | <.< |
| 01:11.28 | Kaso | I like the Reality testing part |
| 01:11.55 | Sky2042 | yeah, lol |
| 01:11.55 | Kaso | I'd be quite bothered if i was ever in a situation where i had to manually check if it was reality or not |
| 01:12.02 | Kaso | For some reason that concept almost scares me |
| 01:13.24 | Kirkburn | Strange, that |
| 01:14.03 | Dotted | Strange? |
| 01:14.21 | Kirkburn | That Kaos would be scared that that |
| 01:14.27 | Kirkburn | *Kaso |
| 01:14.37 | Dotted | ah |
| 01:14.53 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: One Boss Leaves: Princess Huhuran vs. Magtheridon - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/27/one-boss-leaves-princess-huhuran-vs-magtheridon/ |
| 01:14.57 | Kirkburn | Partly why I don't drink much, I like to be in control |
| 01:15.44 | Dotted | gonna try the WILD method |
| 01:15.50 | Kaso | Its not the loosing control, its the loosing control, but not knowing it. Im fine with being dreaming and totally un-control in the dream. But if im dreaming, but not aware of it, thats the botherthing thing |
| 01:17.04 | Dotted | but if you are aware you'd be lucid dreaming |
| 01:17.50 | Kaso | But that article seems to suggest a situation where people think they are in reality, until they check and find they are in a lucid dream |
| 01:17.58 | Kaso | That'd be the bothersome period |
| 01:18.10 | Dotted | not for me tbh |
| 01:18.37 | Dotted | becuase usualy dreams for me is like a movie that just plays you know |
| 01:18.50 | Dotted | not really tinking, hence not realizing its a dream |
| 01:19.07 | Dotted | i think thats what it means |
| 01:19.33 | Dotted | but the situation you are reffering to would be akward yeah :p |
| 01:20.48 | Kaso | I guess from a philosophical standpoint the dream thing edges too close to the un-disprovableably of solopism, which is always a worrysome fact |
| 01:21.43 | Dotted | yeah... my words exactly :/ |
| 01:22.08 | Kaso | You should've just said "un-disprovableably" isnt a word you retard! |
| 01:23.01 | Dotted | im tireing myself, cant be bothered |
| 01:23.18 | Kaso | solopism is the concept that the whole world is simply a figment of your imagenation. |
| 01:23.37 | Dotted | w000000t there is a lucid wikia |
| 01:24.13 | Kaso | The "Brain in a jar" scenario. |
| 01:24.46 | Dotted | http://lucid.wikia.com/wiki/Shapeshifting \o/ |
| 01:25.10 | Kaso | Bear form! |
| 01:26.37 | Dotted | well i guess the emerald dream is an advanced form of lucid dreaming |
| 01:28.00 | Dotted | what the... |
| 01:28.01 | Dotted | Here is an example of a FILD attempt: |
| 01:28.02 | Dotted | 1. I wake up after three hours of sleep. I feel exhausted. |
| 01:28.05 | Dotted | 2. I lay back and, using my middle and index fingers, alternate small motions between them. Middle finger press; middle finger lift. Index finger press; index finger lift. Similar to playing two keys on a piano. |
| 01:28.07 | Dotted | 3. After about 20 seconds, I try a reality check. I find that I am in a dream. |
| 01:33.03 | Dotted | When you are at work, and your boss appears to be a pink monster with tentacles, won't you at least start thinking that that is slightly strange? In real life, you would, but in a dream you don't. In a dream, everything that happens is absolutely normal. |
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| 01:36.36 | Bagginsww | hmm there is a new celtic style bar music? |
| 01:37.15 | Bagginsww | is it for the hollow's eve event? |
| 01:37.20 | Bagginsww | or did I just miss it somehow |
| 01:37.42 | Kirkburn | Inn music changed in 2.2 iirc |
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| 01:38.10 | Bagginsww | they got rid of all the old inn music? |
| 01:38.25 | Bagginsww | or just add more variety? |
| 01:38.30 | Kirkburn | Not sure |
| 01:38.55 | Bagginsww | hmm think its more variety |
| 01:38.59 | Bagginsww | its now playing somethign different |
| 01:39.04 | Bagginsww | still celtic style |
| 01:39.15 | Bagginsww | needs to rip the music out the game again heh |
| 01:39.44 | Bagginsww | some of this new music is as kickass as the LOTRO inn music |
| 01:40.33 | Bagginsww | and there is alot of variety in the inn's in that game |
| 01:40.37 | Bagginsww | depending on which racial area your in |
| 01:40.47 | Bagginsww | probably about 8 songs per each race's inns |
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| 01:41.47 | Kirkburn | lol, I have a pumpkin for a head |
| 01:42.38 | Bagginsww | from trick or treating? |
| 01:42.51 | Kirkburn | Someone buffed me with it |
| 01:43.14 | Bagginsww | so ya I got some screenshots of a nude nightelf female on a broom its funny |
| 01:43.48 | Bagginsww | "Is that a broom or you just happy to see me" :p |
| 01:43.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:47.44 | Kirkburn | Kaso, any idea how much it costs to phone the US? |
| 01:48.10 | Kaso | Alot :> |
| 01:48.50 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 01:49.49 | Kaso | I'd prob be cheaper using skype than BT, i know that much |
| 01:50.11 | Bagginsww | they probably completely removed the old inn music |
| 01:50.20 | Bagginsww | good thing I have the soundtracks ;) |
| 01:50.37 | Bagginsww | I like dthe updated version of the inn music with the TBC soundtrack |
| 01:50.47 | Bagginsww | where it segues into celtic style |
| 01:50.55 | Bagginsww | the extended bit |
| 01:52.31 | Kirkburn | Yeah, me too |
| 01:52.41 | Kirkburn | They played that live at the Blizzcon concert :P |
| 01:52.53 | Bagginsww | awesome |
| 01:53.13 | Bagginsww | shame I wasn't aroudn for the rock concert ingame :p |
| 01:54.00 | Kaso | Kirkburn, 15p/min Daytime, 10p/min Off Peak |
| 01:54.21 | Kirkburn | Ah, not soooo bad |
| 01:55.49 | Kaso | Cambodia, East Timor and Wallis and Futuna are all £2/min |
| 01:57.47 | Kaso | Skype is 1.4p/Min however for USA |
| 01:58.41 | Kaso | however skype is pre-pay ofc |
| 01:59.05 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 02:00.00 | Kirkburn | ta for looking it up :) |
| 02:00.25 | Kaso | he, no problem |
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| 03:05.17 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Upcoming 2.3 Changes - Concise List - http://www.wowblues.com/us/upcoming-23-changes-concise-list-879058320.html |
| 03:11.04 | Kirkburn | http://andrius.esu.lt/10/go2.htm <-- fun |
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| 04:08.33 | Bagginsww | so the headless horsman's name is Thomas Thomson? |
| 04:09.15 | Sky2042 | why? |
| 04:10.00 | Bagginsww | you get his tome |
| 04:10.05 | Bagginsww | and it mentions his wife and children |
| 04:10.58 | Sky2042 | what of it? |
| 04:11.13 | Kirkburn | lol - http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=248 |
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| 04:24.24 | Bagginsww | awesome |
| 04:24.29 | Bagginsww | a little portal humor heh |
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| 04:57.50 | Bagginsww | someone should a Portal vs. World of Warcraft machinma |
| 04:58.00 | Bagginsww | oops chell just opened up into Azeroth |
| 05:00.53 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 05:11.40 | Zeal | "back from "Out" after 12hrs 1min 29secs" lol |
| 05:13.21 | Sky2042 | welcome |
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| 06:18.58 | Bagginsww | you know its interesting but there were going ot be bearded dwarves in Warcraft Adventures LOL |
| 06:19.26 | Bagginsww | females I mean |
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| 08:01.22 | Voluspaa | Good morning! |
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| 08:20.16 | Kirochi | hello |
| 08:20.32 | Kirochi | I have a small problem, I have completely forgotten how to open the PTR |
| 08:20.43 | Kirochi | I have downloaded and installed it |
| 08:20.55 | Kirochi | but I can't find out how to play on it |
| 08:26.07 | Sky2042 | o_0 |
| 08:26.32 | Voluspaa | Hmm? |
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| 08:27.05 | Voluspaa | You just start the game and select... |
| 08:27.17 | Voluspaa | Public Test |
| 08:27.17 | Sky2042 | Kirochi: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/ptr.html , specifically here https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/login/login?service=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.worldofwarcraft.com%2Fptr%2F |
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| 08:37.23 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: New PTR causes Macro Problems? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/new-ptr-causes-macro-problems-2649576746.html |
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| 09:16.02 | Kirochi | hey there |
| 09:16.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arthas_Menethil lol that page is in need of a gallery section, and a cut down on pictures in the main part of the article. |
| 09:16.30 | Kirochi | how can I play that damn f'n PTR ? |
| 09:19.35 | Kirochi | Bagginsww !!!!! |
| 09:20.03 | Kirochi | you seem to be the only one here, help me goddammit |
| 09:20.12 | Bagginsww | with? |
| 09:20.13 | Bagginsww | ptr? |
| 09:20.30 | Bagginsww | don't you have to download some installer? |
| 09:20.59 | Kirochi | I have downloaded it |
| 09:21.01 | Kirochi | figures |
| 09:21.10 | Bagginsww | then you ran it, and it didn't work :p |
| 09:21.11 | Kirochi | I just can't find out how to open it now |
| 09:21.18 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 09:21.23 | Kirochi | I can't run it ! where's the f'n button????? |
| 09:21.28 | Bagginsww | it installs to its own folder I think |
| 09:21.30 | Bagginsww | if you can find that |
| 09:22.03 | Bagginsww | actually try the regular wow folder it might be under there, under patch test or something or other |
| 09:22.12 | Bagginsww | its been a while |
| 09:22.25 | Kirochi | for me too :( |
| 09:22.54 | Kirochi | I'll go and try to install it again |
| 09:24.11 | Bagginsww | I beat phantom hourglass awesome game |
| 09:24.29 | Bagginsww | still have alot of junk to find though like the rest of the hearts, and ship parts |
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| 09:44.58 | Kirochi | awwww |
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| 09:45.16 | Kirochi | maybe it was because I didn't put the downloaded file in the WoW folder |
| 09:45.33 | Kirochi | it's bound to work now, or else I'll throw my pc out the window |
| 09:45.43 | Corgan | can someone shed some insight onto my situation |
| 09:45.45 | Corgan | [23:41:20] <Corgan> I had 9k honor saved up so far |
| 09:45.45 | Corgan | [23:41:29] <Corgan> about 41k estimated honor for the day |
| 09:45.45 | Corgan | [23:41:35] <Corgan> now, my honor just shot up to 50k |
| 09:45.45 | Corgan | [23:41:40] <Corgan> but my estimated honor is still at 41k |
| 09:46.09 | Corgan | did a UI reload, so it's not a UI bug |
| 09:46.26 | Corgan | Is Blizzard just messing with my mind? |
| 09:48.33 | Kirochi | no, it's just that you are way too confident in your UI manipulations |
| 09:49.04 | Kirochi | let it be, dammit, just like the 4 million people that play wow, everything needs time to be properly displayed |
| 10:02.46 | Kirochi | A blessing! A blessing from the Lord! |
| 10:02.49 | Kirochi | God be praised! |
| 10:03.04 | Kirochi | It works goddaaammmmiiitttt |
| 10:05.05 | Corgan | :/ |
| 10:06.30 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Two Bosses Enter: Teron Gorefiend vs. Gruul the Dragonkiller - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/28/two-bosses-enter-teron-gorefiend-vs-gruul-the-dragonkiller/ |
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| 10:13.15 | Kirochi | I'll ask a friend to set up the fight on a private server |
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| 11:26.18 | Voluspaa | Adys |
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| 11:41.59 | Voluspaa | Hello? |
| 11:45.21 | Kaso | Adys is asleep |
| 11:45.29 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: What if Adun was one of the seven that form Ulrezaj? - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1796 |
| 11:45.41 | Kaso | It's 13:00 his bed-time |
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| 11:46.33 | Voluspaa | Why is 13.00 his bed-time? |
| 11:46.51 | Kaso | cos he lives a wierd sleep cycle |
| 11:46.59 | Kaso | awake through the night, then sleeps the next day |
| 11:47.14 | Voluspaa | Really? Because of his job? |
| 11:47.24 | Kaso | I dont know why he does it |
| 11:47.34 | Voluspaa | What kind of job does he have? |
| 11:47.51 | Kaso | Dunno, i think he's still a student, but im not sure. |
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| 11:48.48 | Kaso | Alls i know is i've quite often seen him going to sleep as i am getting up |
| 11:48.56 | Voluspaa | Well, shouldn't he be in class or something then? Or is he only doing this on Sundays |
| 11:48.56 | Kaso | even though he's only 1hr + my timezone |
| 11:50.08 | Voluspaa | Let's ping him :) |
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| 11:50.35 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Voluspaa!n=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-2-2.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys|sleep (Adys|sleep) |
| 11:50.41 | Kaso | haha |
| 11:50.46 | Adys|sleep | nn |
| 11:50.49 | Kaso | night |
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| 11:56.46 | Woowa | Testing |
| 11:57.28 | Woowa | Hrmph... pinging was not a very good idea. I wonder if he has some kind of auto response program or something |
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| 11:59.36 | Woowa | Welcome back, Gimliii :) |
| 12:01.03 | Kaso | Voluspaa i presume |
| 12:01.29 | Kaso | * Adys|sleep sets ban on *!*@213.167.96.* |
| 12:01.29 | Kaso | î€ Adys|sleep has kicked Voluspaa from #wowwiki (Adys|sleep) |
| 12:01.29 | Kaso | <Adys|sleep> nn |
| 12:01.29 | Kaso | <Kaso> night |
| 12:03.59 | Woowa | Night night |
| 12:05.03 | Woowa | Anyway |
| 12:05.24 | Woowa | Anything interesting going on here? |
| 12:05.39 | Kaso | Not much really on a sunday morning |
| 12:05.42 | Kaso | most are still sleeping |
| 12:05.51 | winkiller | 1 pm :P |
| 12:06.02 | winkiller | still most are sleeping |
| 12:06.13 | Kaso | For me sunday morning lasts till at least 3 pm |
| 12:06.28 | Corgan | :/ |
| 12:06.28 | winkiller | nah, 3 pm is lunchtime |
| 12:06.45 | Kaso | Hello there corgan |
| 12:06.48 | Corgan | I managed to break my script :D |
| 12:06.53 | Kaso | Yay! how? |
| 12:07.09 | Woowa | It's not 1 PM |
| 12:07.22 | Woowa | *Am |
| 12:07.26 | Woowa | Never mind |
| 12:07.29 | Kaso | different timezones. |
| 12:07.29 | Corgan | well...if the same item is required twice on different tiers |
| 12:07.33 | Corgan | it screws it all up |
| 12:07.33 | Corgan | :( |
| 12:07.44 | Kaso | ah i see |
| 12:07.49 | Corgan | I think I have a fix for it tho |
| 12:07.55 | Woowa | What do you think about the movie I made? |
| 12:07.59 | Woowa | http://youtube.com/watch?v=jxZRPGG1x8U |
| 12:08.01 | Kaso | So if you need 12 X bars, and 1 x tube, which requires 5 more x bars to make it doesnt like? |
| 12:08.02 | Corgan | I think it sucks. |
| 12:08.08 | Corgan | pretty much |
| 12:08.08 | Corgan | :p |
| 12:08.27 | Woowa | VOTE VOLUSPA 08! BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT's RIGHT! :P |
| 12:08.30 | Corgan | like, I have 4 icons for 20 adamantite ore at the bottom |
| 12:08.44 | Woowa | I think that's a great slogan |
| 12:08.46 | Corgan | because adys changed the mats for the goggles around |
| 12:09.03 | Corgan | it just kinda...messed it all up |
| 12:09.15 | Woowa | Frenchmen... |
| 12:11.37 | Kaso | Should be too hard to fix though |
| 12:11.46 | Woowa | Yes, I know. |
| 12:11.54 | Kaso | shouldn't even |
| 12:12.27 | Woowa | When Adys decides something it usually stays that way. |
| 12:12.35 | Woowa | ;) |
| 12:13.20 | Woowa | It rains... |
| 12:13.47 | Woowa | Kaso, does it rain where you are from? |
| 12:13.57 | Kaso | Often |
| 12:14.03 | Kaso | Though not today |
| 12:14.35 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: When will we see 2.3? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/28/breakfast-topic-when-will-we-see-2-3/ |
| 12:14.44 | Woowa | Where are you from then? Bergen? |
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| 12:15.11 | Kaso | Norway?! |
| 12:15.19 | Kaso | Im from England, I live in Lancaster |
| 12:16.00 | Woowa | Hmm, one of my friends told me you never go to England because of the weather. Didn't know he was right ;) |
| 12:16.38 | Kaso | You get used to it |
| 12:17.07 | Woowa | Of course. |
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| 12:17.21 | Woowa | Is it ture you have tea time every day? |
| 12:17.35 | Woowa | true that* |
| 12:17.49 | Kaso | I dont like tea, or coffe |
| 12:18.28 | Woowa | I agree. It's a poisonous, horrible thing to drink. |
| 12:19.11 | Kaso | Why do you keep double typing lines |
| 12:21.54 | Woowa | Because I have to use this stupid IRC client |
| 12:25.26 | Woowa | Do you know what my favourite water is? |
| 12:26.50 | Corgan | boy, you're really annoying aren't you. |
| 12:27.19 | Woowa | Water :P |
| 12:27.30 | Woowa | What now, Corgan? |
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| 17:07.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arthas_Menethil |
| 17:07.54 | Bagginsww | some cleanup on the pictures |
| 17:10.47 | Kirkburn | Morning |
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| 17:14.29 | Bagginsww | morning |
| 17:14.32 | Bagginsww | did you get my message? |
| 17:22.48 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, yep |
| 17:23.05 | Kirkburn | So, the policy is back to saying sentence case categories |
| 17:23.25 | Kirkburn | The whole thing of changing it to Title Case was an accident in the first place >< |
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| 17:23.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sylvanas_Windrunner cleaned up that page a bit |
| 17:24.07 | Bagginsww | I think it fixed some formating issues caused by the positions of the artwork |
| 17:24.20 | Bagginsww | at least on a widescreen ;p, can't judge for anyone else |
| 17:27.46 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:28.00 | Kirkburn | Looks good |
| 17:29.19 | Bagginsww | and I switched the ugly tcg picture out for the color version from manga |
| 17:29.33 | Bagginsww | while manga is a bit exaggerated at least she looks more aesthetically pleasing :p |
| 17:30.13 | Bagginsww | I'd have gone for metzen for more realistic look, and still maintained aesthetically beatiful appearance, but people don't like it. |
| 17:36.46 | Bagginsww | One wonders if Arthas has looked at himself in a mirror snce he became a death knight ;) |
| 17:39.58 | Bagginsww | kirkburn if you see any of those ugly statistic blocks on any character pages can you move them to their own articles :p |
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| 17:40.26 | Bagginsww | I still run across themf rom time to time :p |
| 17:40.52 | Bagginsww | they are especially ugly if they take up more than half an article, :p |
| 17:42.36 | Kirkburn | Wonder when Night of the Dragon will be released |
| 17:43.04 | Kirkburn | It kinda needs to be pre expansion or coinciding with it |
| 17:43.34 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 17:43.38 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 17:43.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Sylvanas_Windrunner#Her_Mount |
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| 17:48.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Malfurionarchive.jpg I know its a young version of malfurion, but would there be any obligations to it replacing the rpg screenshot in the npcbox? I like the rich use of colors. |
| 17:49.22 | Kirkburn | It's not really very high quality |
| 17:49.41 | Bagginsww | hmm did my upload work? |
| 17:49.45 | Kirkburn | oh wait |
| 17:49.49 | Bagginsww | or you looking at your cached verison |
| 17:49.53 | Kirkburn | Oh, much better |
| 17:50.13 | Bagginsww | I cut it from the Trinity shot at Sons of the Storms |
| 17:50.20 | Kirkburn | Looks good :) |
| 17:50.53 | Bagginsww | imo its the best color shot of Malfurion we have yet, even if its only young mal. |
| 17:51.32 | Bagginsww | oh ya and I updated the shot of young Illidan too |
| 17:51.38 | Bagginsww | from the same artwork |
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| 17:54.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Malfurion_Stormrage |
| 17:54.19 | Bagginsww | switched em |
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| 18:08.10 | Kirkburn | Ooh, Zeal will be pleased - hardware sound is back on the PTR |
| 18:09.16 | Kirkburn | If it stays with 4k honor for that daily BG quest, hell I might even get some good gear finally |
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| 18:16.29 | foxlit | And which gear is that? |
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| 18:28.26 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: i thought i got everything on the page last night :| |
| 18:28.38 | Kirkburn | :P |
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| 18:42.58 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah. |
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| 18:54.44 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 640 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 10mins 40secs. |
| 18:54.47 | Sky2042_ | woohoo |
| 18:55.41 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 18:56.02 | pcj | !wwstats |
| 18:56.03 | [NewsBot] | Channels stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
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| 18:57.20 | Sky2042_ | dotted, you suck |
| 18:57.49 | Dotted | not really no |
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| 18:58.05 | Sky2042_ | yes: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki_page_2.html has people who are the same people |
| 18:58.09 | Sky2042_ | but different names |
| 18:58.22 | Dotted | then they suck |
| 18:58.28 | pcj | it also thinks kalroth is adys |
| 18:58.36 | Sky2042_ | lol |
| 18:58.39 | Kalroth | w5tf |
| 18:58.44 | Bagginsww | so sky what changed did you do to welcome template? |
| 18:58.45 | Kalroth | I'm NOT some dirty frenchy |
| 18:58.58 | Bagginsww | before I ask about a suggestion :) |
| 18:59.11 | Sky2042_ | Bagginsww: changed a redirect to the main page |
| 18:59.15 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 18:59.21 | Bagginsww | ok here is my suggestion |
| 18:59.25 | Bagginsww | or rather a question |
| 18:59.31 | Sky2042_ | hoboy |
| 18:59.47 | Sky2042_ | ' |
| 18:59.52 | Dotted | !8ball Is Kalroth a dirty frenchy? |
| 18:59.53 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Cannot predict now. |
| 19:00.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 19:00.11 | Sky2042 | yar baggins? |
| 19:00.14 | Bagginsww | Is there anyway to make the welcome template automatically use the name of the person in hte page, without having to manually type in {{Welcome|User:}}? |
| 19:00.15 | Kalroth | :( |
| 19:00.36 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: can you clarify? |
| 19:01.52 | Bagginsww | well I mean instead of having to type out {{Welcome|Baggins}} if you could just type {{Welcome}} and have it look at the name of the player based on the User: page. |
| 19:01.59 | Bagginsww | *user |
| 19:03.12 | Bagginsww | only thing I know of, might work would probably just end up saying "Welcome, User talk: Baggins", :p |
| 19:04.16 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, er, the name bit is for YOUR name, not the person you're welcoming :P |
| 19:05.10 | Sky2042 | thought so |
| 19:05.11 | Kirkburn | And that's for {{signedwelcome}}, in any case |
| 19:05.17 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: was trying to confuse me! |
| 19:05.54 | Bagginsww | huh I thought we were talking about the one that you use to welcome people in their talk pages :p If you leave it blank it just says "Welcome to Wowwiki blah blah" |
| 19:06.04 | Bagginsww | if you put in {{Welcome|}} |
| 19:06.17 | Bagginsww | it says Welcome, "name" to wowwiki blah blah" |
| 19:06.28 | Sky2042 | it should already be doing that |
| 19:06.55 | Kirkburn | "Hello, '''{{BASEPAGENAME}}''', and welcome to..." |
| 19:06.57 | Sky2042 | from the coding: Hello, '''{{BASEPAGENAME}}''', and welcome to |
| 19:07.00 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:07.44 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 19:09.08 | Bagginsww | its working then, guess someone changed it since I last used it LoL |
| 19:14.27 | Bagginsww | btw, I absolute love the gallery template, its so nice for fixing pages that too much artwork that screws up the text on the page :). |
| 19:14.39 | pcj | <gallery> works better |
| 19:15.13 | Bagginsww | that's what I'm talking about |
| 19:15.22 | Bagginsww | I love that |
| 19:15.23 | pcj | that's not a template |
| 19:15.27 | Bagginsww | whatever it is |
| 19:15.45 | Sky2042 | we call it a "magic word" |
| 19:15.55 | Bagginsww | oh, heh. |
| 19:20.57 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Time_Stamp |
| 19:23.39 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, if you come across pages you want to edit that are locked, please mention it :) |
| 19:24.03 | Sky2042 | wha?... |
| 19:25.06 | Sky2042 | hmm, i need a fork |
| 19:25.06 | Kirkburn | Cause you're editing some policy pages, and I know some are lcoked |
| 19:25.09 | Kirkburn | *locked |
| 19:25.10 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 19:29.29 | Bagginsww | sky I'll unlock the timeline pages that are locked if you can get one of those banners that tell people not to edit them except to fix typos |
| 19:29.50 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext needs "Popular pages" removed, since the function was deleted on the wiki |
| 19:29.52 | Bagginsww | I'm not sure if we have a specific template for such things |
| 19:30.14 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: i don't need them unprotected, but zeal might in the near future |
| 19:30.43 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 19:30.51 | Bagginsww | well I was just asking if we had a template for something like that? |
| 19:31.17 | Sky2042 | you can custom use [[Template:Ambox]] |
| 19:31.24 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 19:32.30 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 19:33.14 | Bagginsww | so I wonder how we'll split the Naxx pages up. I recommend a disambig/lore page, and a Naxx Northrend, and Naxx Plaguelands |
| 19:33.39 | Bagginsww | there is only so much lore so it could be fit onto the main disambig page |
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| 19:34.18 | Bagginsww | even use in-line disambig. |
| 19:34.49 | Sky2042 | do we yet know if naxx PL is completely moving or is it going to remain in the plaguelands |
| 19:34.51 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 19:35.26 | Bagginsww | it may be completely moved, or not we don't know. Either way old version needs its own article |
| 19:35.39 | Bagginsww | even if it gets the removed from game tag or not |
| 19:38.39 | Sky2042 | just wait until we have an instance for the future to deal with. |
| 19:39.40 | Bagginsww | I'm not saying split it yet |
| 19:39.41 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 19:39.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tirion_Fordring#Brotherhood_of_Light sigh, baldr is an idiot |
| 19:41.50 | Sky2042 | "The ignorant masses..." |
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| 19:43.19 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 19:43.24 | pcj | hooray |
| 19:43.34 | Fisker- | O |
| 19:43.35 | Fisker- | W |
| 19:43.35 | Fisker- | L |
| 19:43.36 | Fisker- | D |
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| 19:50.30 | bleeter | wow insider's a good 12 hours late again, if not more, I see |
| 19:54.43 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 20:52.42 | Zeal | "<+Sky2042> Bagginsww: i don't need them unprotected, but zeal might in the near future" I'm fine thanks O_o |
| 20:52.55 | Sky2042 | orly?! |
| 20:53.45 | Zeal | "<@Kirkburn> Ooh, Zeal will be pleased - hardware sound is back on the PTR" oh fuck yes! |
| 20:53.57 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 20:55.05 | Zeal | now i'll probably start complaining because i can hear my arcanite steam pistol again, lol. gief serpentshrine longbow |
| 20:55.12 | bleeter | don't forget to go test it, tho |
| 20:55.27 | bleeter | 'coz if you don't, it's bound to not work when you load up 2.3 live for the first time |
| 20:55.33 | Zeal | no real room to start installing the test client |
| 20:55.34 | bleeter | and you'll be all QQ and stuff :P |
| 20:56.10 | Zeal | resently installed Adobe CS3, so i unstalled steam and other things, heh. |
| 20:56.18 | Zeal | *recently |
| 20:56.25 | Kirkburn | You uninstalled Steam!? |
| 20:56.30 | Zeal | aye |
| 20:56.30 | Kirkburn | madman |
| 20:56.37 | Zeal | i don't play any games on it anymore |
| 20:57.58 | Zeal | may get reinstalled if i go to a lan again, but doubtful, rather play ut2k4/q3/dow/wc3 at a lan than any of the steam games. |
| 20:59.42 | Zeal | noodles need to be made, but no meat to cook with them. ffs : / |
| 21:00.13 | Zeal | bbl |
| 21:00.58 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 21:00.59 | Fisker- | you suck |
| 21:01.18 | Fisker- | you can get Quake 3 on steam :P |
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| 21:03.43 | zeal | make no difference, why isntall steam (at platofrm designed around updates) to play a non-steam game which doesn't get updated? |
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| 21:09.05 | Kirkburn | BRD is eaaasy so far at 70 |
| 21:12.12 | Bagginsww | I think I need to completley uninstall steam and reinstall it, a few of the games have corrupted themselves and wont' work |
| 21:12.16 | Bagginsww | or features wont' work |
| 21:12.22 | Bagginsww | like subtitles |
| 21:12.36 | Bagginsww | I can't get half-life source to work. |
| 21:12.45 | Bagginsww | I've tried uninstalling individual games but that doesn't work |
| 21:13.59 | Kirkburn | Have you verified the game cache integrity? |
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| 21:25.03 | compuwiz | im trying to equip a two handed sword and it says it cannot be equiped, but I have the skill |
| 21:28.15 | Yukinon | you meet the level requirement? |
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| 21:29.55 | compuwiz | yes |
| 21:30.14 | compuwiz | when i put the cursor over the sword everything is white |
| 21:30.33 | compuwiz | im level 8 and its a level 2 sword |
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| 21:32.09 | Yukinon | do you have 2handed swords trained/ |
| 21:32.16 | compuwiz | i have the skill |
| 21:32.28 | compuwiz | i went to the weapon trainer in stormwind |
| 21:32.33 | Yukinon | what is the sword? |
| 21:32.44 | compuwiz | two handed sword |
| 21:32.50 | Yukinon | there is a separate skill for swords and 2handed swords. |
| 21:33.11 | compuwiz | i have the two-handed skill |
| 21:33.58 | Yukinon | hmm don't know what to tell you then |
| 21:34.10 | compuwiz | thats what another guy on teamspeak told me |
| 21:34.20 | compuwiz | is there anyone else i could ask? |
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| 21:37.56 | pcj | ding revered gnomeregan exiles |
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| 21:40.46 | Kirkburn | omfg, the Ring of Law was trivial |
| 21:45.37 | Bagginsww | ya kirkburn I tried to verify the cache integrity |
| 21:45.41 | Bagginsww | it didn't seem to fix anything |
| 21:53.07 | compuwiz | i tried learning the skill for staffs and i cant equip them either |
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| 21:55.13 | bleeter | is the weapon type, in the weapon tooltip red or white? only thing I can think of is maybe some bad mod interoperability |
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| 21:55.39 | compuwiz | white |
| 21:56.01 | bleeter | ok, so the game knows you have the skill. try with all mods disabled ;) |
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| 21:56.31 | compuwiz | ok, one second |
| 21:57.13 | compuwiz | didn't help |
| 21:57.24 | pcj | can you post a screenshot of the error |
| 21:57.32 | compuwiz | yea |
| 21:57.39 | compuwiz | let me make one |
| 21:57.50 | bleeter | if it's not working with all mods disabled, I'd be thinking of paging a GM |
| 21:58.08 | bleeter | 'coz that's just ... wrong |
| 21:58.20 | compuwiz | i am a gm |
| 21:58.36 | pcj | are you playing on an emulated server? |
| 21:58.39 | compuwiz | yes |
| 21:58.44 | pcj | can't help you then |
| 21:58.50 | bleeter | same |
| 21:58.56 | compuwiz | shouldent make a difference |
| 21:59.14 | compuwiz | im sure they wouldent have a bug that big |
| 21:59.33 | bleeter | compuwiz: read /topic |
| 22:00.08 | compuwiz | im not talking about an emulated server, the problem is with me i think |
| 22:00.20 | Kirkburn | Yes, it's that you're stealing. |
| 22:00.43 | compuwiz | i havent read that your not supposed to make your own servers |
| 22:00.56 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 22:01.14 | pcj | yeah i forgot to read that you shouldn't kill people too |
| 22:01.34 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 22:01.38 | compuwiz | im looking in the wow tos now |
| 22:01.51 | Kirkburn | I dieded in BRD :( |
| 22:01.56 | pcj | nub |
| 22:02.11 | Kirkburn | Fineous Darkvire wouldn't move, so I had to kill him +mobs |
| 22:02.21 | pcj | sucks to be you |
| 22:02.39 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 22:03.51 | compuwiz | i dont see anything mentioning private servers, the closest thing i can find is that you are not suposed to modify THEIR server or your client when playing on THEIR server |
| 22:04.12 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: All the World's a Stage: WTF is IC - OOC? WTB RP! OK THX, CU L8R - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/28/all-the-worlds-a-stage-wtf-is-ic-ooc-wtb-rp-ok-thx-cu-l8r/ |
| 22:04.16 | Kirkburn | And the EULA? |
| 22:04.23 | pcj | it doesn't really matter what it says, one of the rules of the chat room is that we don't discuss it |
| 22:04.24 | compuwiz | havent found that yet |
| 22:06.06 | bleeter | ToS does mention it in more than just one place, it's just not explicitly stated. |
| 22:06.08 | Kirkburn | How do you even justify it to yourself? |
| 22:06.19 | bleeter | One just needs basic reading comprehension to understand this. |
| 22:06.37 | Kirkburn | If you don't want to pay, you shouldn't be able to play on anything more than the basic client, without any patches whatsoever |
| 22:07.29 | Kirkburn | But in any case, I should take my own advice, and regard the topic |
| 22:07.40 | bleeter | same |
| 22:08.13 | compuwiz | ok |
| 22:08.18 | bleeter | apart from |
| 22:08.27 | bleeter | EULA, 4 B iv |
| 22:08.48 | compuwiz | if they really dint want you to make your own servers, why did they make it so easy to do so? |
| 22:09.07 | compuwiz | and yea, i just found that |
| 22:09.15 | pcj | so easy? |
| 22:09.31 | pcj | you're the one experiencing a nearly crippling error with an emulated server |
| 22:09.57 | pcj | and it doesn't sound like you're the one who made the emu server anyway |
| 22:10.06 | bleeter | what I wanna know is why Blizz use .tmp file ext on the EULA and ToS files |
| 22:11.00 | compuwiz | if they wanted you to use their servers they wouldent make a realmlist.wtf file and they would integrate it into the exe file |
| 22:11.23 | pcj | blizzard themselves uses different servers |
| 22:12.31 | compuwiz | yea, but its just as easy to integrate that inbto the program, i have made a few simple programs before, but it would be easy for them |
| 22:12.40 | bleeter | yes, blizzard should hardcode the patcher URLs so that, heaven forbid, if they ever want to change that location people won't be able to patch >< |
| 22:12.46 | bleeter | anyways, this is still OT |
| 22:12.51 | Kirkburn | Yay Shadowforge key |
| 22:12.59 | compuwiz | anyway, i will ask somewhere else |
| 22:13.03 | bleeter | s/URL/DNS names/ |
| 22:13.32 | bleeter | Kirkburn: nice :) |
| 22:13.47 | Kirkburn | Now to see about Lord Incendius |
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| 22:18.34 | Kirkburn | lol, walked into a pack of 6 elites |
| 22:18.55 | Kirkburn | And then forgot to kill the medics first |
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| 22:22.12 | Bagginsww | well kirkburn, the split of Shaman lore to Shaman, Shaman races, and Shamanism and Nature Worship articles is complete |
| 22:22.27 | zeal | what a tard O_o (compuwiz) |
| 22:22.58 | zeal | Kirkburn, reply in msn ;) |
| 22:23.13 | Kirkburn | sec |
| 22:23.15 | Bagginsww | the background section in Shaman could probably be expanded a little, to include a few links to different shaman types in lore |
| 22:23.23 | Kirkburn | Trying to work out how to get to the Grim Guzzler |
| 22:25.16 | bleeter | zeal: indeed... 'i wrote a hello world once, blizz don't know what they're doing' |
| 22:25.16 | zeal | rofl |
| 22:25.16 | bleeter | zeal: please unaway |
| 22:25.16 | bleeter | that's really annoying |
| 22:25.18 | zeal | yeah, i shoud, meh. |
| 22:25.32 | zeal | well i never finsihed it, should onyl announce to you once, sorry. |
| 22:25.57 | bleeter | it should auto-unaway you once you start typing :P |
| 22:26.10 | Zeal | nah, i don't like that ;) |
| 22:26.10 | bleeter | or, prolly mroe correctly, when you send a msg |
| 22:26.16 | Zeal | i like being sneaky, hehe. |
| 22:28.17 | Zeal | anyway, sorry kirk, didn't realize you were in wow still ;p |
| 22:28.20 | Zeal | no rush |
| 22:29.14 | Yukinon | does int no longer affect weapon skill training? |
| 22:31.11 | Zeal | Bagginsww, any idea if there's been any speculative discussion on the wiki about the differences in how shamanism and druidism works? |
| 22:31.38 | bleeter | Yukinon: don't quote me, but iirc it disappeared when BC was released. |
| 22:31.41 | Bagginsww | huh, I just added what rpg says aboutr it |
| 22:31.49 | bleeter | Yukinon: It's prolly in a patch note somewhere ;) |
| 22:31.50 | Zeal | don't know yukinon, not heard of it changing : / |
| 22:32.13 | Bagginsww | [[Shamanism and Nature Magic]] |
| 22:32.14 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Shamanism_and_Nature_Magic |
| 22:32.21 | Zeal | oh, hm. |
| 22:32.43 | Zeal | 404ness |
| 22:32.49 | Yukinon | ill be sad ig they chagned it |
| 22:33.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shamanism_and_Nature_Worship |
| 22:33.11 | Bagginsww | sorry |
| 22:33.15 | Zeal | found it :p |
| 22:34.16 | Yukinon | i keep int scrolls on my rogue just for that purpose |
| 22:36.37 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #114:The Flight of Nyte - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/114.html |
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| 22:42.12 | Zeal | hm.. it doesn't go int othe diffeences at all, oh well. |
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| 22:47.00 | Zeal | wow, no wonder. the druid article is really lacking in lore. |
| 22:47.28 | Zeal | not even any seperate articles to explain about them :s |
| 22:48.27 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:48.41 | Bagginsww | well driuds are really split up into various subtypes |
| 22:48.51 | Bagginsww | actually the druid article was really long at one time |
| 22:48.56 | Bagginsww | one of the longest lore articles we had |
| 22:49.14 | Bagginsww | but we split most of the organizations into seperate articles |
| 22:49.24 | Bagginsww | and split the by race dection to |
| 22:49.28 | Bagginsww | [[Druid races]] |
| 22:49.29 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_races |
| 22:49.33 | Zeal | yeah.. there is no druid lore article |
| 22:49.36 | Bagginsww | main history and lore is in background |
| 22:49.39 | Bagginsww | its in Druid |
| 22:49.56 | Zeal | to explai ntheir abilities, their spells, their history. onyl article is the organization one, which if anything, is merely a stub. |
| 22:50.09 | Zeal | there's next to nothing there in the druid article |
| 22:50.12 | Bagginsww | well explanation of abilites is not in any class article really |
| 22:50.29 | Bagginsww | infact you kind of have to take abilities one at a time in their own articles |
| 22:50.38 | Bagginsww | as there is some cross class sharing lore wise |
| 22:51.09 | Zeal | don't mean in terms of games. |
| 22:51.36 | Zeal | i mean something similar to what shamanism has |
| 22:51.37 | Bagginsww | btw we need to merge Fel and Fel Energy it means the same thing |
| 22:51.51 | Zeal | though evne that is lacking a bit. can think of a number of refrences to add. |
| 22:51.59 | Zeal | aye, it does. |
| 22:52.29 | Zeal | well honestly i'd merge it into arcane ;) |
| 22:53.00 | Bagginsww | well its under arcane but not all arcane is fel |
| 22:53.05 | Zeal | Fel can simpyl redirect there. do redirects except anchor links? can't remember. |
| 22:53.11 | Zeal | ofc. |
| 22:53.16 | Bagginsww | fel is seperated int eh rpg |
| 22:53.24 | Bagginsww | with just the note that it has ties to the arcane |
| 22:53.25 | Zeal | the rpg can bite me. |
| 22:53.35 | Bagginsww | You can bite me :p |
| 22:53.49 | Zeal | depends which era of the rpg, and if it was done for games. |
| 22:54.01 | Bagginsww | if you went with the MMO you'd never know fel was tied to the arcane |
| 22:54.13 | Bagginsww | its the same in both era of the rpg |
| 22:54.16 | Zeal | if you went with wow, you wouldn't know wtf was what. |
| 22:54.36 | Zeal | gogo shadow ¬_¬ |
| 22:54.44 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:54.48 | Bagginsww | which isn't fel, :p |
| 22:54.52 | Zeal | want to kill metzen for that.. |
| 22:55.07 | Bagginsww | shadow is like a strange hodpodge representation of fel, and voodoo :p |
| 22:55.23 | Bagginsww | of course "shadow" belief system now |
| 22:55.25 | Zeal | shadow as far as i'm concenred is a very weak attempt at a new magic, which becuase metzen compeltely fialed at and never fleshed out, is arance. |
| 22:55.38 | Bagginsww | [[Cult of the Forgotten Shadow]] |
| 22:55.39 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cult_of_the_Forgotten_Shadow |
| 22:55.46 | Bagginsww | hopefully spelled that right |
| 22:56.38 | Bagginsww | You know Metzen is behind the RPG too right? |
| 22:56.50 | Bagginsww | nah the main reason n the MMO was because they had to simplify things |
| 22:56.59 | Bagginsww | I'm actually writing up an article on magic schools right now |
| 22:57.07 | Bagginsww | The RPG has it split into dozens |
| 22:57.23 | Bagginsww | fields, subfields, schools, subschools, and domains |
| 22:57.53 | Zeal | i know |
| 22:57.58 | Zeal | i love the rpg classes |
| 22:58.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magic_schools |
| 22:59.21 | Zeal | but anyways.. shadow in terms of locks is arance(fel). shadow in terms of priests/anti-holy is non-existant nonsense which until metzen finishes working on to make it possible to exist, i'll simply consider arcance(shadow). |
| 23:00.07 | Bagginsww | actually shadow's lore is tied into Cult of the Forgotten shadow |
| 23:00.08 | Zeal | i love it, initally the only place info for shadow existed was one sentence on the wow class list on the website. |
| 23:00.12 | Bagginsww | did your ead it :p |
| 23:00.21 | Zeal | read it before i beleive |
| 23:00.25 | Bagginsww | I've updated it |
| 23:01.01 | Bagginsww | Shadow represents shadow, for forsaken |
| 23:01.10 | Bagginsww | Shadow represents voodoo for troll priests |
| 23:01.22 | Bagginsww | Shadow is something paladisn wouldn't use |
| 23:01.34 | Bagginsww | or holy light priests |
| 23:01.37 | Bagginsww | they'd be against it |
| 23:01.49 | Bagginsww | but I'll probably be corrected by those who play alliance priests :p |
| 23:01.53 | Bagginsww | some quest probably explains it |
| 23:01.55 | Zeal | not seeing anything new since i last read it really. |
| 23:02.06 | Bagginsww | maybe you read it last few months |
| 23:02.12 | Zeal | still ridiculous with lore with no leg to stand on currently imo. |
| 23:02.27 | Zeal | few peices of lore i'm taking a stubborn stance on ;) |
| 23:02.28 | Bagginsww | it ifts the evil Forsaken imo |
| 23:02.51 | Bagginsww | its also fits the anti-thesis to the [[Holy Light]] |
| 23:03.05 | Bagginsww | its like a dark mirrior image |
| 23:03.06 | Zeal | gg [NewsBot] ;) |
| 23:03.14 | Bagginsww | [[Holy Light]] |
| 23:03.14 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Holy_Light |
| 23:03.18 | Bagginsww | which I plan to update later |
| 23:03.26 | Bagginsww | also see; |
| 23:03.31 | Bagginsww | [[Church of the Holy Light]] |
| 23:03.32 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Church_of_the_Holy_Light |
| 23:03.50 | Zeal | i know where metzen is going with it, but i relaly don't like. there's no need for it exist and if anything it makes more complications moving forward. |
| 23:05.28 | Zeal | next he's going to be telling us shadow is used by all demons and sargeras and that fel doesn't exist/co-exists as a middle ground. then he has a setup for the holy war idea. |
| 23:05.59 | Zeal | were he could jsut simply say, they use arcane for evil, same as fel. |
| 23:07.21 | Zeal | *when he |
| 23:09.52 | Bagginsww | Fel is corrupted arcane :p |
| 23:10.19 | Zeal | really wouldn't have been hard to have "shadow priests" as a new concept the forsaken built on the power and abilities of the dread lord, taught to them via varimanthras. their abilities already fit that, and tbh that's what i will always think of thme ass. |
| 23:10.25 | Bagginsww | someone should look into each race's spell lists and see what explanations for shadow are given |
| 23:10.32 | Zeal | vampiric and mind controlling arcane users. |
| 23:10.42 | Bagginsww | I know that forsaken shadow and light is given several detailed quests |
| 23:11.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadow_priest |
| 23:11.11 | Zeal | a combo which allows them to practice a form of necromancy. |
| 23:11.49 | Bagginsww | that would have been hard in game for balance reasons |
| 23:11.56 | Zeal | nope |
| 23:12.03 | Zeal | as they do it all already |
| 23:12.13 | Zeal | just not the necromancy. |
| 23:12.13 | Bagginsww | they took out pally's ability to affect forsaken, :p |
| 23:12.35 | Zeal | yeah, well that's jsut retarded gameplay for ya. |
| 23:12.36 | Bagginsww | because of balance |
| 23:12.41 | Zeal | :p |
| 23:13.04 | Bagginsww | what I'm saying they rarely design games aroudn lore, usually gameplay :p |
| 23:13.13 | Zeal | i know |
| 23:13.32 | Zeal | but anyways, shadow priests are why i hope i never see a necromancer class in wow. |
| 23:13.54 | Dotted | because they have to Bagginsww |
| 23:13.56 | Bagginsww | they might not give us necromancers, with the death knights |
| 23:14.19 | Zeal | i'd probably stop caring about the lore at that point, because it's jsut a step too far for me. |
| 23:14.54 | Zeal | there already is a "raise dead" type ability planned for them isn't there? |
| 23:15.16 | Bagginsww | just like they had in the old games |
| 23:15.24 | Zeal | aye |
| 23:15.34 | Bagginsww | necromancer is too much of an inbetween class |
| 23:15.46 | Bagginsww | they have alot of similarities to locks |
| 23:15.54 | Bagginsww | and lots of similarities to death knights |
| 23:15.54 | Zeal | ultimately, i hate all blizz's choices for the wow classes ;) |
| 23:16.07 | Bagginsww | infact there are plenty of references to warlocks using "necromantic magicks" :p |
| 23:16.11 | Zeal | and lots of similarties to shadow priests ;) |
| 23:16.16 | Zeal | aye |
| 23:16.34 | Zeal | i wonder if still have my class list i was building up from the rpg info.. |
| 23:17.50 | Bagginsww | just go to category classes :p |
| 23:17.59 | Bagginsww | it should be pretty complate now |
| 23:18.43 | Zeal | nah, i mean what stages of training and paths they can take to achieve new/different classes |
| 23:19.03 | Zeal | eg, most arcane based caster start life as an arcanist |
| 23:19.21 | Bagginsww | shadow priest is to priest what a dark cleric is to cleric |
| 23:19.41 | Bagginsww | or a dark shaman to shaman ;) |
| 23:20.06 | Bagginsww | in the rpg that's very little difference :p |
| 23:20.20 | Bagginsww | just a few different choices of spells |
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| 23:21.15 | Zeal | Acolyte->Necrolyte->Necormancer being a typical path, but at any point, an Arcanist can become any of those, as it's actually a higher skilled level and easier to turn to the "darker arts" and start with a better udnerstanding of it than an acolyte. |
| 23:21.44 | Zeal | Archmage being the pinnacle of the mage line. |
| 23:22.03 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Speak_with_Plants that's an ability shared by druids, rangers and scotus IIRC |
| 23:22.21 | Bagginsww | not sure the lore fits that zeal |
| 23:22.31 | Bagginsww | Acolyte are a bit different |
| 23:22.33 | Zeal | it does |
| 23:22.36 | Zeal | i checked. |
| 23:22.48 | Bagginsww | I'd say Necrolyte and Necromancers are about the same |
| 23:22.54 | Zeal | don't knw othe hows/whys anymore, as it was back when i first met you :P |
| 23:23.02 | Zeal | nope, directly below. |
| 23:23.04 | Bagginsww | acolytes are priests |
| 23:23.06 | Bagginsww | in the rpg |
| 23:23.10 | Zeal | they're not. |
| 23:23.23 | Bagginsww | ya they are :p |
| 23:23.27 | Bagginsww | Novice priests are most often used in grunt work, summoning and repairing buildings and structures with their magic. Occasionally, an acolyte enters battle as a medic, though few are strong enough to actually engage directly in battle. They typically dressed in dark robes covered in arcane writing. Most of their face is covered in a dark scarf and the hood of their robes, they clutch wicked wavy-bladed daggers. The acolyte is abso |
| 23:23.27 | Bagginsww | lutely pitiful in battle, and lets other Forsaken forces fight for them. Their main role is to summon buildings and repair damage to vehicles and other undead units. If pressed, the acolyte casts spells like lesser 'death coil or stabs with his dagger.HPG 202,203 |
| 23:23.32 | Zeal | not in the classical priest sense. |
| 23:23.41 | Zeal | they're a completely different, real world "priest" |
| 23:23.49 | Bagginsww | they are closer to forsaken shadow priests |
| 23:23.53 | Zeal | aye. |
| 23:24.19 | Zeal | and necrolyte is their next stage, should someone wish to learn more in that same line. |
| 23:24.21 | Bagginsww | of course there are other non-dead acolytes |
| 23:24.33 | Bagginsww | this only works for undeadish variety |
| 23:24.49 | Bagginsww | but in anycase in warcraft III they were considered seperate departments |
| 23:25.11 | Zeal | not saying it has to be taken in that path, a perfectly capable acolyte could be more power than a crap lock, but lock would be learning more about what a acolyte and how to apply it in other ways. |
| 23:25.13 | Bagginsww | its implied in the rpg too |
| 23:25.25 | Bagginsww | any class can multi-class into other classes lol |
| 23:25.29 | Zeal | i know |
| 23:25.35 | Zeal | that's how i have it set up. |
| 23:25.41 | Bagginsww | a dark ranger can't be a ranger though |
| 23:25.43 | Bagginsww | for obvious reasons |
| 23:25.48 | Zeal | ofc. |
| 23:25.56 | Bagginsww | loss of the druid powers heh |
| 23:26.34 | Zeal | questionable as to "druid" (even if the rpg may want to state it that way) but yeah. |
| 23:26.56 | Bagginsww | why is it quesitonable? They share the druid powers |
| 23:27.04 | Bagginsww | except shape changing |
| 23:27.17 | Bagginsww | there are like 5 spells they share |
| 23:27.24 | Bagginsww | including summon animals |
| 23:27.32 | Bagginsww | like the old warcraft iii druids |
| 23:27.45 | Bagginsww | well techincally summon companion |
| 23:27.50 | Bagginsww | plus the ability to speak with plants |
| 23:27.58 | Bagginsww | and that's been aroudn since Day of the Dragon |
| 23:27.59 | Bagginsww | novel |
| 23:28.09 | Zeal | because it's actually not druidic, if anything it;s more shamanistic (this is what i asked about an article about the differences in the first place) and is simply a low level understanding of nature. |
| 23:28.26 | Zeal | *why |
| 23:29.00 | Bagginsww | shamans don't have that ability actually |
| 23:29.05 | Zeal | but the funny thing, is most rangers would have learnt via a society containing druids. |
| 23:29.11 | Bagginsww | far seers summon spirits |
| 23:29.14 | Bagginsww | not animals |
| 23:29.18 | Zeal | they do. |
| 23:29.25 | Zeal | it was explained in lord of the clans. |
| 23:29.29 | Bagginsww | those animals are spirit animals in warcraft 3 |
| 23:29.34 | Zeal | which is a reference missing form that shaman article. |
| 23:29.40 | Zeal | not referign to the game. |
| 23:29.49 | Bagginsww | the problem is blizzard reinvents everythign all the itme |
| 23:29.56 | Zeal | part of the reference to it is already in the shaman article though. |
| 23:30.00 | Zeal | i know |
| 23:30.04 | Bagginsww | be right back checking the rpg |
| 23:30.16 | Zeal | hence the need for a speculative article on the differences between the two. |
| 23:30.19 | Zeal | kk |
| 23:30.50 | Bagginsww | Nature's Ally is druid/ranger specific |
| 23:30.58 | Bagginsww | whatever the shaman's has its not nature's ally |
| 23:31.09 | Zeal | becuase the rpg fails ;) |
| 23:31.10 | Bagginsww | warlock equivalent is Summon Monster |
| 23:31.16 | Bagginsww | nah each class has a different name |
| 23:31.22 | Bagginsww | for the same sort of spell |
| 23:31.29 | Bagginsww | has different sets of requirments though |
| 23:31.33 | Bagginsww | like spell components |
| 23:31.38 | Zeal | aye, it fails. |
| 23:31.54 | Zeal | really i would have given it a seperate name to both a shaman and druid version. |
| 23:31.54 | Bagginsww | nah more realistic |
| 23:32.18 | Bagginsww | for example a warlock is going ot use demonic entrails or what not |
| 23:32.33 | Bagginsww | btw mage's equivalent is "summon Familiar" |
| 23:32.35 | Zeal | both druids and shamans can request aid from animals, shamans from spirit animals too. |
| 23:32.53 | Thrae | Yeah, it's not like the Druid and Shaman share a talent tree name, or even share a talent spell with the same name and ability. |
| 23:32.58 | Bagginsww | again mage has different sets of requirements and componentws |
| 23:33.24 | Bagginsww | I'm pretty sure its Summon spirit for the shamans |
| 23:33.25 | Bagginsww | but not sure |
| 23:33.31 | Zeal | keep in mind gameplay still though Bagginsww. |
| 23:33.37 | Bagginsww | with lore |
| 23:33.42 | Bagginsww | each of tehse have lore explanations LOL |
| 23:33.46 | foxlit | fs |
| 23:34.00 | Bagginsww | background information heh |
| 23:34.04 | foxlit | The only help I can request from animals is for them to not attack me from so far away! |
| 23:34.09 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 23:34.11 | foxlit | gief viable animal help. |
| 23:34.18 | Zeal | i know, but you can write lore for any gameplay aspect, and the absence of it in a game doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
| 23:34.27 | Zeal | lol foxlit. |
| 23:35.01 | Bagginsww | they also come from seperate fields of magic |
| 23:35.21 | Bagginsww | btw you know most of these fields originate out of mythology and legend right :p |
| 23:35.35 | Zeal | what's it say about the shaman spirit one? |
| 23:35.44 | Zeal | as to magic school. |
| 23:35.56 | Bagginsww | trying to find it |
| 23:36.01 | Bagginsww | it might have been added in later bok |
| 23:36.05 | Bagginsww | book |
| 23:36.06 | Zeal | ah, kk. |
| 23:36.18 | Bagginsww | remember in the rpg there are several types of shamans |
| 23:36.24 | Bagginsww | different belief systems |
| 23:36.37 | Bagginsww | some can summon animals other's cant |
| 23:36.43 | Bagginsww | variant shamans |
| 23:36.59 | Zeal | no idea what they would relaly classify the spirit based one under, shamanistic, but school wise i would have thought it still came under nature. |
| 23:37.05 | Bagginsww | basically its wrong to say all shamans can summon animals, or that all druids can |
| 23:37.11 | Zeal | ofc. |
| 23:37.19 | Bagginsww | or that all mages can LOL |
| 23:37.20 | Zeal | people like to specialise. |
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| 23:37.23 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 23:37.27 | pitchslid | hey |
| 23:37.32 | pitchslid | i have a ques.. |
| 23:37.34 | kadrahil | where is the list of server ip addresses on wowwiki? |
| 23:37.36 | Bagginsww | well its all classified under divine really |
| 23:37.39 | pitchslid | i just got the 14 day trial right |
| 23:37.44 | pitchslid | so |
| 23:37.50 | pitchslid | i can just play the trial |
| 23:37.50 | Bagginsww | [[nature]] |
| 23:37.54 | pitchslid | and pay as i play right |
| 23:38.02 | Bagginsww | stupid infobot :p |
| 23:38.05 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
| 23:38.09 | pitchslid | i dont have to buy the 69.99 package or anything |
| 23:38.10 | Zeal | "Inscribers must be, or be taught by, a Runemaster of any level." love that aspect, quite a unique class. |
| 23:38.11 | kadrahil | Kaydeethree: thanks |
| 23:38.14 | pitchslid | right? |
| 23:38.34 | Bagginsww | ya inscribers are like dumby runemasters, |
| 23:38.40 | pitchslid | !? |
| 23:38.41 | Bagginsww | they only know the basicss |
| 23:38.49 | Bagginsww | and then merge it with mage like class |
| 23:38.52 | Bagginsww | arcanist actually |
| 23:39.01 | Kaydeethree | there's no pay-as-you-play in the us/eu. you've gotta buy the full install for $30 and then each additional month is $15 or so |
| 23:39.07 | Bagginsww | actually quite a few classes with limitations like that iirc |
| 23:39.08 | Zeal | aye, yuup. |
| 23:39.15 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 23:39.17 | Kaydeethree | you can use the trial to see what the latency's like to various servers |
| 23:39.19 | pitchslid | ok so this trial edition shit isnt worth it |
| 23:39.23 | pitchslid | i have to go buy the cd |
| 23:39.26 | Zeal | onyl got techno-mage with a similar requirement atm. |
| 23:39.28 | Bagginsww | basically prestige classes |
| 23:39.32 | Kaydeethree | you can use the trial to play for free for 2 weeks |
| 23:39.38 | pitchslid | bumbaclott |
| 23:39.41 | kadrahil | darn, they disabled icmp echo replies on teh wow servers |
| 23:39.43 | Bagginsww | well most prestidge classes have some requirements |
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| 23:39.45 | pitchslid | ok mi go buy the cd rite now |
| 23:39.50 | pitchslid | thanks for the help |
| 23:39.53 | pitchslid | blessings |
| 23:39.54 | Bagginsww | runemaster is a base class btw |
| 23:40.02 | Bagginsww | not a prestidge |
| 23:40.05 | Zeal | "Techno Mages must be, or be taught by, an Engineer of any level." |
| 23:40.06 | Zeal | i know |
| 23:40.49 | Bagginsww | Engineer they probably mean Tinker, as engineer is was not updated to second edition rules and from one of the more obscure books |
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| 23:41.12 | Bagginsww | you had to use the conversion rules for your self |
| 23:42.04 | Zeal | Tinker is a lower level engineer from what i had. |
| 23:42.28 | Bagginsww | Tinker is the base class |
| 23:42.33 | Bagginsww | engineer was a prestidge class |
| 23:42.38 | Zeal | guess it would actually make sense though in accord with how i had runemaster setup. |
| 23:42.38 | Bagginsww | in a farely obscure book |
| 23:42.40 | Zeal | i know |
| 23:42.54 | Bagginsww | oh these your theories |
| 23:43.00 | Zeal | keep in mind i'm throwing out the rpg gameplay aspect of this. |
| 23:43.05 | Bagginsww | thought it was something I misread in the rpg LOL |
| 23:43.09 | Zeal | trying to bring it mroe int othe real world. |
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| 23:43.44 | Bagginsww | Tinkers don't even have to be engineers to make devices. All engineer allowed was for them to designate workers under them |
| 23:43.54 | Bagginsww | it was more ofa business end of things |
| 23:43.56 | Zeal | well not really theories, but extrapolating what works. |
| 23:44.04 | Zeal | aye. |
| 23:44.27 | Bagginsww | a techno mage usually just works alone like a tinker |
| 23:44.31 | Zeal | a mage can wtf pwn an archmage, just the archmage is a title of recognition of ability and position |
| 23:44.36 | Zeal | aye. |
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| 23:44.51 | Bagginsww | archmage is more than a title of recognition :p |
| 23:45.00 | Bagginsww | at least for the class |
| 23:45.02 | Zeal | same would apply to tinker and enginner |
| 23:45.13 | Zeal | i know, but as i said, not following gemaply. |
| 23:45.20 | Bagginsww | consider techno mages and engineers seperate specialiations |
| 23:45.27 | Zeal | i do. |
| 23:45.37 | Zeal | they're a combo of two. |
| 23:45.39 | Zeal | simple |
| 23:45.43 | Zeal | same as the inscriber. |
| 23:45.59 | Bagginsww | engineer becomes a superviser, the techno mage specilizes in magical/techno combinations |
| 23:46.08 | Bagginsww | but generally alone |
| 23:46.34 | Bagginsww | if you combined them you'd porbably get a techno magineer LOL |
| 23:46.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:47.08 | Bagginsww | I.E a supervising techno/magic prestidge class |
| 23:47.14 | Zeal | aye. |
| 23:47.52 | Bagginsww | or just be a "multi-class" for simplicity sake |
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| 23:48.09 | Bagginsww | Both an Engineer and a TEchno Mage |
| 23:48.22 | Zeal | oh woopsie, made a mistake earlier. meant to say Acolyte->Necrolyte->Necormancer |
| 23:48.26 | Zeal | not warlock :p |
| 23:48.55 | Bagginsww | you said necromancer I'm pretty sure |
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| 23:50.03 | Zeal | indeed i did >_>; |
| 23:51.32 | Zeal | what would be nice is to have this setup in a interactive way, have all the paths setup, and can build up a "career path", and also have the option to select a preset from specialisations. |
| 23:51.51 | Zeal | god i wish wow was like that.. |
| 23:52.10 | Zeal | gief runemasters ;_; |
| 23:52.32 | Bagginsww | basic shaman has spirits and Elements domain |
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| 23:53.16 | Zeal | aye |
| 23:53.18 | Bagginsww | note that divine is split into about 9 domains |
| 23:53.30 | Bagginsww | I think there were one or two more added in later books |
| 23:53.43 | Zeal | never really like the "divine" classification anyways, seems superfluous. |
| 23:53.45 | Bagginsww | like POwer domain I think |
| 23:54.00 | Bagginsww | divine jsut means coming from otherworldly beings |
| 23:54.17 | RogueShadow | what are we talking about? |
| 23:54.30 | Bagginsww | shadow closest domain in rpg is death adn destruction |
| 23:55.22 | Bagginsww | A priest has access to domains depending |
| 23:55.22 | Bagginsww | on the faith she follows. See the “Faiths of Azerothâ€. |
| 23:55.42 | Bagginsww | for that explanaiton a priestess of elune would have a different set of domains |
| 23:55.46 | Bagginsww | than say a holy priest |
| 23:55.57 | Bagginsww | or a mystery of the maker priest |
| 23:56.06 | Bagginsww | random lore and rpg stuff |
| 23:56.20 | Zeal | lore, specifically classes and magic. |
| 23:56.27 | Bagginsww | druids are Animal and Wild domains |
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| 23:56.48 | Bagginsww | basic druid of the wild mind you |
| 23:56.53 | Zeal | "mystery of the maker", lol |
| 23:56.58 | Bagginsww | *makers" |
| 23:57.05 | Bagginsww | the titan worshipers |
| 23:57.26 | Zeal | ah, not as funny then, thought it was a random genric rpg term :P |
| 23:57.33 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:57.54 | Bagginsww | priests of the burning legion have Death destrucitona dn war |
| 23:58.06 | Bagginsww | holy light have protection healing and war |
| 23:58.22 | Bagginsww | those who worship ancients or elune have animal, healing, and war |
| 23:58.32 | Bagginsww | noting that ancients are based on Animal archtypes |
| 23:58.48 | Bagginsww | like stag, boar, bears, etc |
| 23:59.25 | Bagginsww | those who worship the dragons Elements, healing and war, except for those who worship Deathwing, who get Destruction instead of healing. |
| 23:59.59 | Zeal | seems elune should have protection too. |
| 23:59.59 | Zeal | but honestly, all sounds rather uneccessary. |
