00:00.05 | Kaso | Well you know, filled out the details etc |
00:01.03 | Kaso | i dont know as i say, my anti-web2.0 tendances have made not really care to check it out |
00:04.20 | Kaso | There you go Kirkburn just for you i joined |
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00:10.54 | Jiyambi | hey all |
00:11.18 | Kaso | hi Jiyambi |
00:11.19 | Jiyambi | Does the image link not work if you have a template input as the linked page? |
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00:11.47 | Jiyambi | Example of what I am trying to do is [[Template:Chain]] |
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00:13.18 | Jiyambi | anyone? |
00:14.00 | Kaso | Im sorry i dont really know much about wikicode |
00:14.05 | Kaso | templates scare me |
00:14.15 | Jiyambi | hehe its fine |
00:14.43 | Jiyambi | maybe he fell asleep at the keyboard.... |
00:14.50 | Kaso | He's playing portal |
00:14.55 | Jiyambi | aha |
00:15.11 | Kaso | I know cos steam tells me so1 |
00:15.20 | Kaso | clearly he doesnt play in windowed mode |
00:15.27 | Jiyambi | *sigh* well I guess I will have to leave it alone for now, I have homework to do. I will just have to come bug you guys later |
00:15.34 | Jiyambi | Because I really want to get this chain template to work |
00:15.48 | Jiyambi | that way people can go straight to a quest chain from that quests's entry on a quest list |
00:16.31 | Jiyambi | anyways byebye for now, thanks for the conversation Kaso :) |
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01:00.02 | Zeal | "<@Hobinheim> "Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee combat. " wow...." Now i just hope with that, they plan to move pets to be under bosses, not miles around their footprint, oh and WTB back attacking while moving. |
01:04.36 | Zeal | a Giraffe Kirkburn, wtf? :P |
01:05.57 | Kaso | giraffe ...? |
01:06.53 | Zeal | er.. wiki main page critter or w/e |
01:07.55 | Kaso | Not really the best choice of animal i dont think |
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01:17.33 | Zeal | indeed :p |
01:19.37 | Zeal | bbl, food. |
01:20.46 | Kirkburn | Kaso :( |
01:23.01 | Kaso | Its the wrong proportions to be a critter |
01:23.07 | Kaso | it just looks microscopic now |
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01:35.14 | Kirkburn | lol - http://xkcd.com/334/ |
01:35.22 | Kirkburn | Kaso, it's partly on purpose :P |
01:35.39 | Kirkburn | I have replacements for next month anyway |
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02:06.25 | Kirkburn | heh, I do enjoy entertaining people with my murloc costume |
02:10.23 | Kirkburn | Oooh, so Vista's Flip 3D looks awesome when running WoW |
02:12.44 | pcj | Uh, not particularly |
02:12.52 | pcj | It looks somewhat cool in general tho |
02:22.40 | Kirkburn | Don't use it enough though |
02:41.31 | Bagginsww | kirkburn the symbol is similar to everythign in the scarlet crusade |
02:41.39 | Bagginsww | they took the symbol of lordaeron and then just made it red. |
02:41.59 | Bagginsww | they took the symbol of the paladin/priestly orders and made them red |
02:42.02 | Kirkburn | As did the Stormpikes, it seems |
02:42.08 | Bagginsww | ya |
02:42.19 | Bagginsww | I think it represents cross/hammer |
02:42.22 | Bagginsww | but not sure |
02:47.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dark_shaman |
02:47.53 | Bagginsww | I'm thinking of deleting that. We know next to nothign about Dark shamans and anything else is pure speculation |
02:48.10 | Bagginsww | unless its used for a disambig of all dark shaman npcs |
02:48.43 | Kirkburn | Btw Crysis demo out 2moro :P |
02:48.48 | Bagginsww | actually I'lljust have it redirect to shaman |
02:48.51 | Bagginsww | ooh crysis |
02:49.49 | Bagginsww | crysis is one of the games that utalizes multicore isn't it? |
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02:54.09 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, yeah think so |
02:54.23 | Bagginsww | cool |
02:54.31 | Bagginsww | definitely want to try it out on my system then heh |
02:54.37 | Kirkburn | :P |
02:54.38 | Bagginsww | have to wait until next week though :p |
02:54.46 | Bagginsww | another midterm coming up :p |
02:58.08 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Taunka#Let_Down |
02:59.54 | Bibi | [04:06:32] <Kirkburn> Oooh, so Vista's Flip 3D looks awesome when running WoW |
02:59.55 | Bibi | girl. |
03:00.21 | Bagginsww | flip 3d? |
03:00.31 | Bagginsww | the thing that does the weird sideways view of all your open pages? |
03:00.40 | Bibi | the 10 year old mac feature. |
03:00.45 | Bagginsww | lawl |
03:01.09 | Kirkburn | lol, it's nothing like the OSX one |
03:01.23 | Kirkburn | (which is not to say it's better) |
03:01.36 | Bagginsww | I haven't messed with mac's version so no idea |
03:01.39 | Bibi | Vista is a bit like you Kirkburn |
03:01.42 | Bibi | it fails. |
03:02.01 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, good luck with the midterm |
03:02.02 | Bagginsww | the problem with vista is it has very high requirements |
03:02.05 | Bagginsww | thanks |
03:02.28 | Bagginsww | and most people dont' liek being forced to upgrade their computers to upgrade windows |
03:02.36 | Kirkburn | it doesn't |
03:02.48 | Kirkburn | It ran perfectly fine on my 4+ year old PC |
03:02.50 | Bibi | the problem with vista is the time you spend after installing it, to make it look like XP. |
03:02.55 | Bagginsww | it doesn't work as well on older business pcs |
03:03.04 | Bagginsww | you know the type that arent' designed for gmaing |
03:03.10 | Kirkburn | Well that's not so surprising |
03:03.15 | Bagginsww | that's where the biggest complaints came out of |
03:03.30 | Bagginsww | huge companies that rely on their already installed base computers |
03:03.42 | Bagginsww | and don't want ot upgrade for every employeee |
03:04.23 | Kirkburn | Well, same with anything - if they don't want to upgrade, they shouldn't upgrade :P |
03:04.27 | Bagginsww | I'm going to upgrade to vista on this machine as soon as they come out with second edition |
03:04.31 | zeal | the problem with vista is it's not what vista should have been. |
03:04.50 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, SP1 will be nothing like XP's SP2 |
03:05.02 | Bagginsww | so they aren't fixing the bugs? |
03:05.08 | Bagginsww | and slowness? |
03:05.09 | Kirkburn | What bugs? |
03:05.23 | Zeal | aye, vista SP1 is pretty pathetic when you look at everything it should be but isnt. |
03:05.29 | Kirkburn | The only problems Vista has (had) was driver support |
03:05.34 | Bagginsww | I get blue screen crashes on my laptop every now and then heh heh |
03:05.35 | Bagginsww | the new one |
03:05.50 | Zeal | and vista runs fine on my 6 year old pc.. so yeah. |
03:06.07 | Bagginsww | it scales back a bit too |
03:06.12 | Zeal | someone should have told microsoft, bigger isn't better. |
03:06.14 | Bagginsww | like if you odn't have the video card for it you won't get aero |
03:06.14 | Kirkburn | Well, yes, I agree you have to be careful with Vista on older PCs, especially laptops, due to compatability problems |
03:06.22 | Zeal | nah, i had full aero. |
03:06.31 | Bagginsww | it depends on your vidoe card |
03:06.36 | Zeal | aye. |
03:06.58 | Zeal | aero sucks anyways. |
03:07.05 | Bagginsww | if you don't have the right cards you won't get aero. All a right card is one that can handle directx |
03:07.08 | Kirkburn | Oh, btw, that reminds me - the devs are working on the making the smallest Windows OS core possible atm |
03:07.22 | Bagginsww | I dont' even know what aero does exactly? Is it the 3-d stuff? |
03:07.37 | Zeal | the core already is, what needs to be done is a smaller more moduler windows os. |
03:07.45 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinWin |
03:07.47 | Bibi | Aero is the 15 year old part of windows. |
03:07.52 | Zeal | it's the ui design. |
03:08.14 | Bagginsww | ok let me rephrase this what does it look like if you don't have aero? |
03:08.27 | Kirkburn | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071019/eric-talk-demo-windows-7-minwin/ <-- demo |
03:08.31 | Zeal | a slightly mroe stylish xp. |
03:08.36 | Kirkburn | Damn, Zeal beat me |
03:08.43 | Bibi | basically, it's XP style with transparency and shiny effects |
03:08.58 | Bagginsww | kirkburn I'm using it on my new laptop. It doesn't crash alot, just occasionally. I'd say very rarely actually |
03:09.00 | Zeal | i get the impression you hate microsoft bibi? |
03:09.07 | Kirkburn | (where the hell is Tooga :( ) |
03:09.11 | Bagginsww | its easy to hate microsoft LOL for fun |
03:09.18 | Bibi | I don't, I'm only whining on Vista to annoy Kirkburn |
03:09.23 | Zeal | lol kk |
03:09.32 | Bibi | after all, I don't care about Vista, I'm not using it |
03:09.38 | Kirkburn | Not very successful, are we :P |
03:09.39 | Bagginsww | so basically all the 3-d stuff and frosted window effect? |
03:09.45 | Bibi | not really :( |
03:10.05 | Zeal | well it's still aero even without that. |
03:10.16 | Bagginsww | lol another thing people complain about which is silly is that how Vista is highly secured right out of the box |
03:10.20 | Kirkburn | If Tooga doesn't appear soon, I'll just have to run ZF >_> |
03:10.21 | Zeal | the basic non-3d one is still aero, it's just in it's msot basic form. |
03:10.24 | Bagginsww | with the "do you want ot isntall this" blah blah |
03:10.36 | Bagginsww | do you really want to download this to the harddrive blah blah |
03:10.39 | Bibi | do you want to execute this program ? |
03:10.44 | Bagginsww | lol ya |
03:10.46 | Bibi | do you want to download this program ? |
03:10.50 | Bibi | do you want to download it from this site ? |
03:10.58 | Bibi | do you want to download it using this browser ? Internet explorer 7 is better |
03:11.05 | Bagginsww | lol |
03:11.19 | Bagginsww | you can turn that off, but most users don't know how |
03:11.35 | Bagginsww | in reality that was a feature in XP but you had to turn it on after installation |
03:11.47 | Bagginsww | vista just secures it from the beginning |
03:11.47 | Zeal | well i won't go into the argument i had in here before. bu the direction windows takes and that of pretty much an AV/Firewall software is just hell, and i hope they realise that eventually, because i don't think i could use a computer if we stay on that path. |
03:11.53 | Bibi | well, imagine SP2, but with a lot, lot, more adverts |
03:12.06 | Bibi | Zeal : tbh, it's not hell |
03:12.06 | Bagginsww | lol |
03:12.09 | Bibi | it's needed |
03:12.39 | Zeal | nope, it's not. it's jsut one way of doing it, and it's the worst way for a consumer. |
03:12.53 | Bibi | internet isn't for geeks anymore, it's used by the mainstream |
03:13.00 | Bibi | and the mainstream can't identify a spyware or a trojan |
03:13.08 | Kirkburn | Linux and OSX are similar, it's just their implementation went better |
03:13.14 | Bibi | it's stupid for 10% of users (us), but needed for 90% of them |
03:13.23 | Bagginsww | I've heard that mac and linux had alot of the same security features from base installation, rather than making them things you had to turn on later, like in XP. |
03:13.43 | Bagginsww | vista is trying to emulate that |
03:13.58 | Bibi | I'm cleaning my parents computer once every 3 months before they're getting porn pop ups by playing free flash games. |
03:14.06 | Bagginsww | lawl |
03:14.06 | Bibi | (no, don't even think about that, I checked the history.) |
03:14.08 | Kirkburn | Aye, the only reason SP2 was so major was due to the realisation that this security was absolutely essential |
03:14.16 | Bagginsww | ya |
03:14.26 | Bagginsww | but it also ran a bit smoother too |
03:14.31 | Zeal | i honestly forgot everything i said before, so unless kirkburn remembers, i onyl rembmer that we should use an opt-in style security. what that entailed.. i forget, lol. |
03:14.37 | Kirkburn | lol |
03:14.44 | Bagginsww | its not like millenium that got worse with its sp |
03:16.29 | Bibi | oh ... Windows ME .... |
03:16.34 | Bibi | it was .... wonderful |
03:16.54 | Bagginsww | lol |
03:16.59 | Zeal | was no worse than anything else imo. |
03:17.09 | Bagginsww | it was far more unstable than 98 |
03:17.18 | Zeal | used ME longer than i did 98. not a singel problem with it. |
03:17.19 | Bagginsww | even Microsoft admits it was their worst product |
03:17.31 | Zeal | citation! :p |
03:17.44 | Kirkburn | lol |
03:17.46 | Bagginsww | the problem was it finnacky with the wide range of computers out there. some it worked well on |
03:17.57 | Bibi | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikipedian_protester.png |
03:17.58 | Bagginsww | others it was lbue screen as soon as you loaded up |
03:18.02 | Kirkburn | Clean installs were generally okay, it was the upgrades |
03:18.15 | Zeal | mien was an upgrade, lol. |
03:18.20 | Bagginsww | it distabilized on 3 out of 4 of the machines in myhouse |
03:18.25 | Zeal | on an old gateway i had. |
03:18.29 | Bagginsww | I was using upgrade version too |
03:18.34 | Kirkburn | Yeah, and myself :P |
03:18.47 | Zeal | also ran for a while not problems before xp, on my first pc i built. |
03:18.54 | Zeal | *no |
03:19.09 | Bagginsww | compared to millenium I had next to no problems on XP |
03:19.14 | Kirkburn | And so I begin in ZF ... |
03:19.33 | Zeal | hm.. i would never consider going back to me, but i had less problems on me than any other windows os. |
03:19.39 | Bagginsww | you know what was funny? |
03:19.55 | Bagginsww | Microsoft actually released a SP for 98 that gave most of the millenium features |
03:20.00 | Zeal | lol |
03:20.12 | Zeal | forgot what even made me upgrade |
03:20.27 | Zeal | but something in it must have made me want to. |
03:20.51 | Zeal | but i was happy to say goodbye to it, just wasn't nice to use, nor was 98. |
03:20.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,125772-page,2/article.html |
03:21.00 | Bagginsww | 4. Microsoft Windows Millennium (2000) |
03:21.00 | Bagginsww | This might be the worst version of Windows ever released--or, at least, since the dark days of Windows 2.0. Windows Millennium Edition (aka Me, or the Mistake Edition) was Microsoft's follow-up to Windows 98 SE for home users. Shortly after Me appeared in late 2000, users reported problems installing it, getting it to run, getting it to work with other hardware or software, and getting it to stop running. Aside from that, Me worke |
03:21.00 | Bagginsww | d great. |
03:21.00 | Bagginsww | To its credit, Me introduced features later made popular by Windows XP, such as system restore. Unfortunately, it could also restore files you never wanted to see again, like viruses that you'd just deleted. Forget Y2K; this was the real millennium bug. |
03:21.32 | Bagginsww | I had the shutdown bug on a couple of machiens |
03:21.48 | Bagginsww | where it would hang and you couldn't shut it down short of pulling the power plug |
03:21.54 | Zeal | lol |
03:22.00 | Zeal | don't recall ever having that. |
03:22.16 | Bagginsww | that' was the problem it didn't happen to every machine just a great number of them |
03:22.29 | Bagginsww | and there were different problems on different machines |
03:22.35 | Bagginsww | it was really finnacky |
03:22.47 | Zeal | sorta like wow's wonderful new sound engine huh? ;) |
03:22.50 | Bagginsww | alot of it was driver issues I think |
03:22.56 | Bagginsww | lol ya zeal |
03:23.27 | Bagginsww | additionally drivers were even less standardized than they are today |
03:23.46 | Bagginsww | so people owuld have some weird generic video or soundcard that windows didn't like |
03:23.59 | Zeal | and now it's easier to point the finger at bad drivers *cough*nforce*cough* |
03:24.04 | Bagginsww | lol ya |
03:25.49 | Bagginsww | however i don't blame the drivers alone |
03:26.22 | Bagginsww | well I mean vidoe drivers |
03:26.24 | Bagginsww | or sound drivers |
03:26.33 | Bagginsww | now you have to take bios versions into consideration :p |
03:27.10 | Zeal | 2 biggest problems i've ever had with my PCs. 1) Memory that ran at it's rated speeds and timings fine in all tests, but caused constant errors when running windows and tests run in windows (wasted around 7 months on debugging this, answer was, new ram and bitch at the manfacturer). 2) nforce 1 and 2 chipsets having constant driver and ultimately HDD issues (built 6 different pc's based on them, they've all had varying degress |
03:27.15 | Bagginsww | which is funny because a motherboard company will blaim the video card company and video card blaims the motherboard company |
03:27.37 | Zeal | *nforce 2 and 4 |
03:28.38 | Zeal | to date, my HDD's still lock up under heavy load. |
03:29.10 | Bagginsww | not having any problem right now |
03:29.16 | Bagginsww | after updating my bios :p |
03:29.33 | Zeal | when i say heavy i load, i mean multiple things doing read and writes, living shifting around 20gb while working in photoshop and listening to music.. |
03:29.45 | Zeal | *like shifting |
03:30.13 | Bagginsww | I just assign my cores to different tasks :) |
03:30.28 | Bagginsww | it speeds things up |
03:30.29 | Zeal | jsut get wonderful constant hdd activty light then all of a sudden, it goes out, and just blinsk like every 6 seconds, while my pc just freezes up. |
03:30.35 | Bagginsww | ouch |
03:31.06 | Zeal | a few times, i've waited around 10-15mins and it's recovered and suddenly woken up again. |
03:31.25 | Zeal | it's like the hhd says "fuck you, this is too much, i'm going for a fag bbl" |
03:31.33 | Zeal | *hdd |
03:31.38 | Bagginsww | :p |
03:32.33 | Bagginsww | well bb in a bit |
03:32.36 | Zeal | and now i'm running out of room with my 600gb of space, i considering an external drive to store my media and projects instead. |
03:32.38 | Zeal | kk |
03:40.48 | pcj | what's your HDD cache zeal |
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03:56.31 | Sky2042 | zealishere? |
04:01.18 | Zeal | aye, he is |
04:01.26 | Zeal | 16MB pcj |
04:01.37 | pcj | k |
04:04.07 | Sky2042 | coolcoo; |
04:04.15 | Sky2042 | welcome back :) |
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04:07.24 | Zeal | ty ;) |
04:07.58 | Sky2042 | gah |
04:08.00 | Zeal | hm.. think i'll leave learning After Effects to tomorrow. |
04:08.07 | Zeal | too late for learning, lol. |
04:12.04 | Zeal | "The Bones in Desolace are possibly actually 2 of the elemental god's, and are also the reason for the new World Tree's exponentially large growth rate, because they were earthen elementals." rofl |
04:13.10 | Sky2042 | uh... uh... i don't know what to say |
04:13.34 | Bibi | elemental gods leaving bones ? |
04:13.39 | Zeal | you either laugh or say "huh?" |
04:14.31 | Zeal | well first of all there are not "elemental gods", and this is in the old god's speculation article. someone who things the old gods are elementals again i guess. |
04:14.45 | Zeal | *thinks |
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04:16.42 | MI^Flatha | yoz |
04:16.50 | MI^Flatha | i gotta question can any1 help? |
04:16.59 | Sky2042 | probably; ask and ye might receive |
04:17.41 | MI^Flatha | can u play wow on win98? |
04:17.51 | MI^Flatha | the wow site says xp and vista |
04:17.58 | MI^Flatha | but the wow box at the shops says 98 |
04:18.27 | Sky2042 | recommended for BC is doubtless XP or better, though I suspect you can play classic fine on 98. |
04:18.47 | MI^Flatha | also my pc is old |
04:19.03 | MI^Flatha | p3 733, 384 RAM, gf4 64mb |
04:19.12 | MI^Flatha | id be happy with 20fps |
04:19.20 | Sky2042 | i'm not sure you'll get that |
04:19.40 | MI^Flatha | i dont want to spend the $ and find it dont work lol |
04:19.47 | MI^Flatha | i an play war3 with no probs |
04:19.54 | Sky2042 | i run a full gig of ram and a 256 card and i'm happy to see it hit 30... which probably means something sucks, but oh well. |
04:20.11 | Sky2042 | i would advise against attempting to play with those :( |
04:20.25 | MI^Flatha | dang |
04:20.36 | MI^Flatha | time for a new pc i guess lol |
04:20.54 | MI^Flatha | ty for the help |
04:20.59 | Sky2042 | np |
04:22.16 | Zeal | have you tried the wow demo. they still provide that right? |
04:22.53 | Sky2042 | Zeal: i do believe so |
04:23.04 | Sky2042 | MI^Flatha: you can try that |
04:23.09 | Sky2042 | and see how well it works |
04:23.21 | MI^Flatha | i know |
04:23.33 | MI^Flatha | but that makes it even harder\funnier |
04:23.40 | MI^Flatha | i dont have a dvd drive |
04:23.42 | MI^Flatha | LOL |
04:23.53 | Lukian | you can download it :p |
04:24.06 | Zeal | ^ |
04:24.16 | Sky2042 | if your hard drive has at least 10 gigs of space or more... |
04:24.24 | Sky2042 | which, with that old a system... |
04:24.59 | MI^Flatha | i can make the room |
04:25.15 | MI^Flatha | but it would be funny after downloading 3-4 gig to find it dont work lol |
04:25.43 | Zeal | i love it, ct_unitframes fails, ct essentially is dying off, i start working on my own replacement with better itergration with wow's default functionality for it, they break it twice since i get it a workable state by removing and adding new features, and now they break it even more and announce they plan to implement it themselves, lol. |
04:26.04 | Sky2042 | LOL |
04:26.10 | Sky2042 | poor zeal |
04:26.19 | Sky2042 | too zealous for your own good, once again :P |
04:26.50 | Lukian | MI^Flatha, borrow the CD-set of wow off a friend |
04:27.09 | Lukian | (or just splice the dvd files up and have a friend burn them to CD's) |
04:27.27 | Zeal | prefer my one to the what they're doing, font sizes are too big and there's no room for customizing (plus no deficits announced yet, and they don't shorten when numbers get too big to fit on the bars) |
04:27.55 | Lukian | wow is fixing their raid frames (somewhat?) |
04:27.59 | MI^Flatha | is it s fun game? |
04:28.01 | Zeal | downloading 3-4gig is better than spenting the money, no? |
04:28.20 | MI^Flatha | depends on how much power it costs to power pc :P |
04:28.38 | Zeal | ace2 need to fix their libraries so it doesn't break the default raid frames first >_> |
04:29.03 | Sky2042 | MI^Flatha: of course it's a fun game. You don't snag 8-9 million people by creating a not-fun game :P |
04:29.18 | Sky2042 | aren't they coming out with ace3 in the nearish future? |
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04:29.27 | Sky2042 | or is that for wotlk? |
04:29.27 | Zeal | no idea. |
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04:30.25 | Zeal | just know i reported the issue after going through a lengthy debug in their chan while i was first starting work on my addon (as it caused problems for me too), issue was acknowledged, no change as of yet. |
04:33.07 | Zeal | http://temporal.zealvurte.co.uk/forums/ hehe |
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04:34.15 | Sky2042 | owned! |
04:34.37 | Zeal | think i'll keep the site up for about a week, then take it down. onyl thing i plan to keep up is the dkp because i'm going to be writing a new system from scartch based on ndkp with all the modifcations i've made and wanted to make. |
04:34.50 | Zeal | *scratch |
04:37.54 | Zeal | attendance system, better member's database with status (mainyl guild ranks) to determine certain rules (eg. we ran it where trailists don't earn attendance), er.. the rolling attendance is x raid based, not x week based, better intergration with wowhead (Adys, but a gem and nag skosiris to implement so new stuff in the xml ;) ) and probably the most major revamp to the system, the ability to remove players without effecting ze |
04:38.11 | Zeal | *some new |
04:38.17 | Adys | muh? |
04:38.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ace2 does something to the raid frames? That's news to me |
04:38.33 | Zeal | aye, it's causing a taint. |
04:38.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ace is a library, it shouldn't really do anything to anything unless an addon calls it |
04:39.26 | Zeal | i don't really fully comprehend the issue, but it was how it was doing something that was causing a global issue for any addon using ace2. |
04:39.49 | Zeal | something hinerently wrong with how they did soemthing at thecore of it. |
04:39.55 | Zeal | *inherently. |
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04:43.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | Odd, because I'm searching the Ace forums and "Ace taint raid" brings up nothing |
04:43.50 | Zeal | doubt it would |
04:44.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | And if I search Ace2 taint raid, the past post including those words was in january |
04:44.20 | Zeal | brought it up in irc, convo went on for a few hours. none of the "important people" actually chimed in. |
04:44.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | *last |
04:44.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | When? |
04:44.57 | Zeal | probably have an irc log somewhere.. |
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04:47.10 | Zeal | 07/06/07 06:16:22 |
04:47.12 | Zeal | :p |
04:47.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyway, must be off to sleep |
04:47.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | lol, methinks that's probably been fixed |
04:47.32 | Zeal | http://wowi.pastey.net/53360?lang=null <-- the bug |
04:48.27 | Zeal | addon listed as causing the issue is random btw, can even be listed as non-ace2 addons. but onyl happens if you have an ace2 enabled. |
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04:51.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yes, I know ClearFont had a similar problem once |
04:52.11 | Zeal | kk |
04:52.22 | Zeal | i can't say i;ve looked sicne the last 2 wow patches |
04:52.33 | Zeal | but before then, it was still there. |
04:56.20 | Zeal | oh i see, i went through it with some guys in wow interface lounge channel. |
04:56.35 | Zeal | because no one answered me in the wowace chan. |
04:57.03 | Zeal | and the reason i found the issue, was because i was able to procude the taint via my addon, that ace2 was causing. |
04:57.15 | Zeal | and no, i wasn't using ace2 for my addon. |
04:58.13 | Sky2042 | piu: how are you getting it to categorize into the correct cat? jw |
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04:58.32 | piu | how so? you mean the subcats? |
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04:58.37 | Sky2042 | aye |
04:59.13 | piu | I just did some general movbe-all runs first, but... |
04:59.44 | piu | it iterates through each article, shows the first bit, then lists subcategories to pick for it |
05:00.39 | Sky2042 | huh |
05:00.49 | piu | it's having some problems though |
05:01.11 | piu | some article text causes a crash somewhere |
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05:14.07 | Zeal | ok, well i'm off. nn all. |
05:14.30 | Sky2042 | nite |
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07:00.27 | Sky2042 | wtf is he doing |
07:00.28 | Sky2042 | ? |
07:00.33 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Gadgetfingers |
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07:08.58 | Lukian | he's typing to fast to fix his typos :p |
07:09.03 | Lukian | *does it for him* |
07:16.21 | Lukian | http://www.wowwiki.com/Attributes#DPS <- DPS is kinda generic here, thoughts on me changing to to Attack Power? |
07:17.30 | Lukian | the generalisation note can be removed then ^^ |
07:20.12 | Sky2042 | i'd say hold up. but feel free to add AP to the list |
07:20.32 | Lukian | well he's not talking about true DPS there, he's talking about AP |
07:20.42 | Lukian | he even links to see also: Formulas AP. |
07:21.13 | Lukian | :D |
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09:37.05 | Volus | Høyst ærverdige herrer, rikets øverste dommere. |
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12:26.22 | kweenie | hello? |
12:26.31 | kweenie | anyone knows how to typ in color in wow? |
12:28.21 | Fisker- | you can't |
12:28.46 | kweenie | it can |
12:28.56 | kweenie | i see people that are typing in color |
12:29.07 | kweenie | and its not a system message |
12:29.33 | Fisker- | Then the server is bugged, or you are not playing on official server |
12:29.34 | Fisker- | servers |
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12:34.13 | Corgan | Fisker-! |
12:39.05 | Kaso | Hmm ^^ thats interesting |
12:39.23 | Kaso | me thinks he's on an emu server |
12:39.43 | Kaso | that or he's talking through some sort of encoded guild channel |
12:39.45 | Corgan | check check it |
12:39.46 | Corgan | http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4413/olawdvq7.png |
12:39.59 | Kaso | i saw ten min ago in #wowhead it's awesome |
12:40.03 | Corgan | It's updated |
12:40.06 | Corgan | shows total counts |
12:40.11 | Corgan | as it goes down the tiers |
12:40.21 | Kaso | ah i see |
12:40.29 | Kaso | Very good |
12:40.45 | Corgan | I was bouncing ideas for scripting it off my sister |
12:40.56 | Corgan | she was like "...what the hell are you talking about" |
12:40.57 | Kaso | Im surprised noone has ever done a script to do that before, it seems like an obveous thing |
12:41.10 | Kaso | Haha |
12:41.25 | Corgan | talking about javascript arrays and everything |
12:41.32 | Kaso | i like having my group of computer science friends who can actually understand these things :> |
12:41.38 | Corgan | :( |
12:41.52 | Corgan | I'm such a messy coder |
12:41.53 | Corgan | ugh |
12:42.00 | Corgan | That's what I get for being self taught I guess |
12:43.42 | Kaso | You should see some of my KasoBot Stuff, its terrible |
12:44.04 | Corgan | lol |
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12:45.13 | Corgan | I find one of the worst/most annoying languages to code in is tcl |
12:45.46 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/75908 my random xml parser that doesnt bother to tokenize or anything |
12:45.57 | Kaso | I even knew that was terrible as i was coding it |
12:46.00 | Kaso | but im very very lazy |
12:46.04 | Corgan | lol |
12:46.30 | Corgan | wanna see this source for this javascript thing? |
12:46.40 | Kaso | I'll take a peek |
12:46.53 | Corgan | http://pastebin.com/m7337fa84 |
12:47.27 | Corgan | I went through like...3-4 different ways to do it |
12:47.34 | Corgan | they didn't work right :p |
12:47.56 | Corgan | I ended up doing a bunch of array checks, lining up the items to their parent items and tier levels |
12:48.14 | Kaso | This is where a bit of software design helps :> my lectures keep telling us to design before we start coding |
12:48.24 | Corgan | bleh |
12:48.57 | dreamss | lol |
12:49.12 | Corgan | I thought about it, and thought it would work |
12:49.13 | Corgan | but it didn't |
12:49.14 | Corgan | :p |
12:49.19 | Kaso | heh |
12:49.22 | dreamss | corgan how is tcl anoying? |
12:49.24 | Corgan | I was surprised when this way actually worked |
12:49.25 | dreamss | shit is easy |
12:49.34 | Corgan | I hate coding my eggdrop bot |
12:49.43 | dreamss | i hate JS :P cant do it for shit |
12:49.50 | Corgan | I used to hate JS |
12:49.54 | Corgan | I've learned to love it |
12:50.04 | dreamss | tcl i can 1line any code i want |
12:50.05 | dreamss | hehe |
12:50.11 | Corgan | Greasemonkey sparked my interest in JS |
12:50.36 | Corgan | I've made a few greasemonkey scripts for wowhead |
12:50.45 | Corgan | like, one that keeps an item wishlist... |
12:51.02 | dreamss | nice |
12:51.04 | Corgan | one that pulls your equiped items from the armory and compares it to the item you're viewing |
12:51.17 | dreamss | javascript makes me its bitch |
12:51.36 | dreamss | usually i can google for small stuff, but if i have to edit it. i get stuck badly |
12:51.54 | Corgan | and I've got one that allows you to link to specific posts on the wowhead forums |
12:51.55 | Corgan | :) |
12:52.01 | Corgan | simple scripts |
12:52.13 | Corgan | this one I'm working on now is probably one of the most advanced ones i've worked on |
12:52.43 | dreamss | i can make a tcl script that looks like IE, logs in a ssl website using cookies and grabs data, but cant make a simple ajax sript |
12:52.44 | dreamss | bleh |
12:52.56 | Corgan | oh, and I made one that adds a custom tab to wowhead, allowing you to make quick links to places on the site |
12:53.03 | dreamss | nice |
12:53.09 | dreamss | sripting owns |
12:53.11 | Corgan | yeah |
12:53.35 | Corgan | %I'm hooking into most of the wowhead functions, so it looks exactly like the other tabs |
12:53.36 | Kaso | I have this one script that sorta probes my uni network generating a list of hosts, it starts off in java but then migrates to lua near via Runtime.exec() nearthe end. Because it i knew how to write the part in lua, but i'd have had to of looked up APIs in java, and i was too lazy for that. |
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12:53.46 | Kirochi | wassup |
12:54.00 | Corgan | I havn't touched in LUA much, it looks fun tho |
12:54.14 | Corgan | well, I've tweaked a few addons for WoW |
12:54.15 | dreamss | lua reminds me of javascript for some reason |
12:54.16 | Corgan | but that's about it |
12:54.40 | Corgan | what bugs me about knowing so many coding languages, is that I manage to mix up functions |
12:54.50 | Corgan | between the languages |
12:54.59 | dreamss | LOL |
12:55.26 | Corgan | I also have the worst naming scheme for my functions |
12:55.33 | Corgan | well, at least my dev functions |
12:56.08 | Corgan | me and Adys were working on a script, and he yelled at me about my function called Wieners(); |
12:56.09 | Corgan | :( |
12:56.15 | Corgan | being called* |
12:56.24 | Kaso | haha |
12:56.28 | Kaso | thats awesome |
12:56.36 | Corgan | or like |
12:56.44 | Corgan | JustDropped(theBomb) { } |
12:56.50 | Corgan | er |
12:56.54 | Corgan | function JustDropped(theBomb) { } |
12:57.00 | Kaso | array.Insert(Wiener()) |
12:57.07 | Kirochi | how long was function Wieners(); ? |
12:57.15 | Corgan | not long enough |
12:57.15 | Kaso | lol |
12:57.16 | Corgan | :D |
12:57.43 | Corgan | I feel relieved that I figured out this JS thing tho |
12:57.49 | Kirochi | bet he liked it that way. reminded him of his own code |
12:58.32 | dreamss | i hate you with jealousy |
12:58.53 | Corgan | hrmm |
12:59.31 | dreamss | usually i can read a guide/sample and pickup a language :< |
13:00.35 | Corgan | I should figure out how to add this tab without having to use the .flush call a second time... |
13:00.44 | Kirochi | haha |
13:01.15 | Corgan | because I'm basicly removing the whole tabs thing, injecting mine in, and re-flushing the whole thing |
13:02.12 | Kirochi | array.Insert(ToiletPaper()) .flush |
13:02.47 | dreamss | lol |
13:02.53 | dreamss | nice function name |
13:03.11 | dreamss | i hope u commented it with "clean the shit" |
13:03.45 | Kirochi | /run for i = 1, 50 do DoEmote("CHICKEN") end |
13:03.45 | [NewsBot] | Thats a fact >>;-) |
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14:12.57 | Volus | Question! |
14:13.52 | Volus | How much does spell damage increase the damage absorbed by the mage shields? |
14:14.14 | Volus | the ammount of damage that can be absorbed* |
14:15.46 | Kirochi | http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ |
14:18.03 | A2 | + |
14:18.42 | Volus | ??? |
14:22.30 | Volus | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage_builds ---> needs to be checked. |
14:22.52 | Volus | Anyway, can anyone help me? |
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14:38.30 | pcj | what happened to the RSS feed spam |
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14:46.17 | [NewsBot] | pcj running again now |
14:48.12 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: SCHWFF! ROUND THE CORNER!! Quest for WoW Fame - http://www.wowblues.com/us/schwff-round-the-corner-quest-for-wow-fame-2649575650.html |
14:48.18 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS!!!!!! - http://www.wowblues.com/us/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-2649575639.html |
14:48.24 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Steam Tank Siege Weapon? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/steam-tank-siege-weapon-2518770867.html |
14:48.30 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: @Timbal - http://www.wowblues.com/us/timbal-2649575656.html |
14:48.35 | pcj | yeah i didn't really miss the wowblues |
14:48.37 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Spinebreaker - 10/27/2007 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-spinebreaker-10272007-2647285384.html |
14:49.12 | Volus | ~Volus |
14:52.30 | Kirochi | ~beer |
14:52.31 | infobot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
14:53.15 | Volus | ~dance |
14:53.15 | infobot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
14:53.46 | Volus | Infobot, Volus is great! |
14:53.47 | infobot | okay, Volus |
14:53.51 | Volus | ~Volus |
14:53.52 | infobot | i guess volus is great! |
14:54.25 | Volus | Infobot, ^^ means "mate" |
14:54.34 | Volus | Infobot, ^^ is mate |
14:54.35 | infobot | ...but ^^ is already something else... |
14:54.41 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: 2.3 changes, Zul'Aman and Daily Blue - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-8473-1.html |
14:54.44 | Volus | ~mate |
14:54.45 | infobot | rumour has it, mate is some one you like to talk to, similar to a friend, a pitman, a chum, a pal, a buddy, or rather a companion or fellow. aka m8 |
14:54.46 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Paid Character Name Changes, WotLK Screenshots, Daily Blue - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-8453-1.html |
14:54.52 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: New PTR Build , Daily Blue, Heroic Badge Sets - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-8414-1.html |
14:54.58 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: 2.3 PTR Encyclopedia, Patch Notes Update, Daily Blue - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-8387-1.html |
14:55.15 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Brooms not going bye-bye (yet) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/27/brooms-not-going-bye-bye-yet/ |
14:55.21 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Where the roleplayers at? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/27/breakfast-topic-where-the-roleplayers-at/ |
14:55.24 | Kirochi | infobot, Kirochi means wonder |
14:55.27 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Ask WoW Insider: Proving your worth - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/26/ask-wow-insider-proving-your-worth/ |
14:55.33 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: It's not as easy as you think - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/26/its-not-as-easy-as-you-think/ |
14:55.41 | Kirochi | ~Kirochi |
14:55.41 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Phat Loot Phriday: Serpentshrine Shuriken - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/26/phat-loot-friday-serpentshrine-shuriken/ |
14:55.42 | Volus | you have to use "is" |
14:55.48 | Kirochi | infobot, Kirochi is wonder |
14:55.49 | infobot | Kirochi: okay |
14:55.53 | Kirochi | ~Kirochi |
14:55.53 | infobot | it has been said that kirochi is wonder |
14:56.04 | Kirochi | infobot, infobot is infobot |
14:56.04 | infobot | ...but infobot is already something else... |
14:56.13 | Kirochi | I knew it |
14:56.26 | Volus | Don't do it. |
14:56.42 | Volus | If you make infobot think he's something else he'll stop working |
14:56.45 | Kirochi | ~Kamini |
14:57.16 | Kirochi | infobot, Kamini is a French black rap singer from the Northern countryside |
14:57.16 | infobot | okay, Kirochi |
14:57.20 | Kirochi | ~Kamini |
14:57.20 | infobot | from memory, kamini is a French black rap singer from the Northern countryside |
14:57.22 | Volus | Infobot, forget Dotted |
14:57.31 | Volus | infobot, forget dotted |
14:57.40 | Kirochi | infobot, forget about everything you know |
14:57.40 | infobot | i didn't have anything called 'about everything you know' to forget, Kirochi |
14:57.51 | Volus | ~infobot |
14:57.52 | infobot | rumour has it, infobot is a vampire, or an idiot |
14:57.54 | Kirochi | ~Dotted |
14:57.55 | infobot | methinks dotted is lame Infinity |
14:58.00 | Kirochi | hehe |
14:58.03 | Volus | :P |
14:58.27 | Kirochi | infobot, zeal is a no-no |
14:58.27 | infobot | ...but zeal is already something else... |
14:58.29 | Volus | Infobot, no Dotted |
14:58.40 | Kirochi | ~zeal |
14:58.41 | infobot | i guess zeal is and has been level 70 for a while |
14:58.56 | Volus | Infobot, forget Zeal |
14:59.20 | Kirochi | http://combo-no-5.freeonlinegames.com/ |
14:59.24 | Kirochi | combo n°5 |
14:59.25 | Volus | Infobot, no Zeal |
14:59.33 | Volus | Infobot, Zeal is not |
14:59.33 | infobot | ...but zeal is already something else... |
14:59.51 | Kirochi | infobot, talk is cheap |
14:59.52 | infobot | ACTION chatters endlessly to is cheap |
15:00.09 | Kirochi | haha |
15:00.50 | Volus | Infobot, forget mate |
15:00.50 | infobot | i forgot mate, Volus |
15:01.01 | Volus | Infobot, mate is a sexual partner, especially of a breeding animal. |
15:01.02 | infobot | okay, Volus |
15:01.24 | Volus | Infobot, forget lol |
15:01.24 | infobot | Volus: cannot alter locked factoids |
15:01.30 | Kirochi | ~lol |
15:01.31 | infobot | [lol] stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
15:01.47 | Kirochi | infobot, forget ugt |
15:02.06 | Kirochi | infobot, no ugt |
15:02.16 | Volus | Infobot, ugt is good |
15:02.17 | infobot | ...but ugt is already something else... |
15:02.30 | Volus | Infobot, ugt no good |
15:02.35 | Kirochi | ~MTV |
15:02.35 | infobot | i heard mtv is at http://www.mpegtv.com, or ftp://ftp.mpegtv.com/pub/mpeg/mpegtv/player/x86-unknown-linux-glibc/packages/DEB/, or an American cable TV channel that should have died circa 1990 |
15:02.43 | Volus | ~ugt |
15:02.44 | infobot | it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
15:02.56 | Volus | infobot, ugt no it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
15:02.57 | infobot | okay, Volus |
15:03.08 | Volus | ~ugt |
15:03.09 | infobot | well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
15:03.15 | Kirochi | infobot, forget MTV |
15:03.16 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Blue posts, 2.3, Zul'aman, video - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1948.0 |
15:03.22 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Paid character name change, blue posts, 2.3 - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1924.0 |
15:03.28 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: New PTR build, blue posts, ZA Sets - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1899.0 |
15:03.30 | Kirochi | infobot, no, MTV |
15:03.35 | Kirochi | infobot, no MTV |
15:03.36 | Volus | ~newsbot |
15:03.37 | infobot | IRC bot coded in perl that retrieves slashdot/freshmeat news and more. URL: http://www.cflash.com/~yury/, or on an unstable internets connection |
15:03.51 | Kirochi | ~your mom |
15:03.52 | infobot | well, your mom is a ho |
15:03.56 | Kirochi | haha |
15:04.00 | Volus | Infobot, forget your mom |
15:04.00 | infobot | Volus: i forgot your mom |
15:04.04 | Kirochi | haha |
15:04.11 | Volus | Infobot, your mom is spelt your mum |
15:04.11 | infobot | Volus: okay |
15:04.19 | Kirochi | ~momma |
15:04.20 | infobot | -rwx------ 1 apt dpkg 131 Dec 22 16:59 /etc/cron.daily/your_mom* |
15:04.30 | Volus | ~USA |
15:04.38 | Kirochi | ~WMA |
15:04.38 | infobot | wma is, like, audio/x-ms-wma |
15:04.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: At last, Warriors, you will know the power of a Community Class Review - |
15:04.46 | Kirochi | ~wmd |
15:04.46 | infobot | i heard wmd is the b.s. excuse used for the US to occupy Iraq |
15:04.56 | Kirochi | infobot, forget wmd |
15:04.56 | infobot | Kirochi: i forgot wmd |
15:06.07 | Kirochi | infobot, wmd is a short for Weapons of Mass Distraction, something the U.S.A. can endlessly use to distract foreigners from their real goals (in Iras, for example, establishing an outpost for incoming wars) |
15:06.08 | infobot | Kirochi: okay |
15:06.36 | Kirochi | infobot, forget wmd |
15:06.36 | infobot | Kirochi: i forgot wmd |
15:06.43 | Kirochi | infobot, wmd is a short for Weapons of Mass Distraction, something the U.S.A. can endlessly use to distract foreigners from their real goals (in Iraq, for example, establishing an outpost for incoming wars) |
15:06.43 | infobot | Kirochi: okay |
15:06.47 | Kirochi | ~wmd |
15:06.48 | infobot | methinks wmd is a short for Weapons of Mass Distraction, something the U.S.A. can endlessly use to distract foreigners from their real goals (in Iraq, for example, establishing an outpost for incoming wars) |
15:07.16 | Volus | Infobot, USA is a place where the meaning of life is to sue people -- and win. |
15:07.17 | infobot | Volus: okay |
15:07.32 | Volus | ~Kirochi |
15:07.32 | infobot | i guess kirochi is wonder |
15:07.45 | Volus | ~commands |
15:07.47 | Volus | ~help |
15:07.58 | Kirochi | ~Nancy Drew |
15:08.43 | Kirochi | ~slumber |
15:08.54 | Kirochi | ~suck |
15:08.55 | infobot | :( |
15:09.09 | Volus | ~ban |
15:09.09 | infobot | it has been said that ban is a way of getting rid of annoying pests, especially trolls |
15:09.13 | Kirochi | infobot, your mother is a ho |
15:09.13 | infobot | ...but your mother is already something else... |
15:09.22 | Kirochi | yeah |
15:09.38 | Kirochi | infobot is useless |
15:09.43 | Kirochi | infobot, infobot is useless |
15:09.44 | infobot | ...but infobot is already something else... |
15:09.48 | Kirochi | urgh |
15:10.05 | Kirochi | ~Kirkburn |
15:10.06 | infobot | Author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management. |
15:10.16 | Kirochi | ewww, kittehz |
15:16.58 | Volus | Infobot, forget Kirkburn |
15:16.58 | infobot | Volus: i forgot kirkburn |
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15:17.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | GRRRR |
15:17.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | What did I say about doing that? |
15:17.53 | Volus | I thought that was only for Infobot... |
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15:18.10 | Volus | You know, this reminds me of a very special nursery rhyme |
15:18.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | "<Volus> Infobot, forget Kirkburn" o_O |
15:18.59 | Volus | You've only said I wasn't allowed to do the "Infobot, forget Infobot" |
15:19.31 | Kirkburn | *sigh* |
15:19.43 | Volus | Bjørnen sover, |
15:19.43 | Volus | bjørnen sover |
15:19.43 | Volus | i sitt lune hi. |
15:19.43 | Volus | Den er ikke farlig, |
15:19.43 | Volus | bare man går varlig. |
15:19.44 | Volus | Men man kan jo, men man kan jo, |
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15:19.46 | Volus | aldri være trygg. |
15:20.18 | Kirkburn | I am SO close to kicking you right now |
15:20.25 | Volus | I'm sorry Kirkburn :( |
15:20.29 | Kirkburn | infobot, Kirkburn is <reply>Author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management. |
15:20.29 | infobot | okay, Kirkburn |
15:21.50 | Volus | Kirkburn, does bears sleep in nests? |
15:22.24 | Volus | ~Karma |
15:22.24 | infobot | volus has neutral karma |
15:22.49 | Fisker- | btw i liked how flagship studios recalled a CE copy |
15:22.52 | Fisker- | after it was sold... |
15:26.12 | Dotted | ~volus-- |
15:26.17 | Dotted | volus-- |
15:26.20 | Volus | Fisker-, you didn't understand the morale of "Den er ikke farlig, bare man går varlig"? |
15:26.25 | Dotted | ~karma volus |
15:26.25 | infobot | volus has karma of -1 |
15:26.30 | Dotted | hurrah |
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15:26.32 | Volus | Hey! |
15:26.35 | Volus | ~Karma |
15:26.35 | infobot | volus has karma of -1 |
15:26.59 | Dotted | !jobqueue |
15:27.03 | Dotted | uh oh |
15:27.08 | Volus | ~Volus--2 |
15:27.14 | Volus | ~Karma |
15:27.14 | infobot | volus has karma of -1 |
15:27.19 | pcj | !wwstats |
15:27.22 | Volus | Buhuuu :( |
15:27.36 | Dotted | pcj its dead |
15:27.42 | Volus | Now I'm sad. |
15:28.28 | Volus | Infobot, forget Volus |
15:28.28 | infobot | Volus: i forgot volus |
15:30.20 | pcj | foxlit, foxbot |
15:34.26 | Volus | Infobot, Volus is sad because Dotted has decreased Volus' karma |
15:34.26 | infobot | okay, Volus |
15:35.28 | Volus | Infobot, forget Volus |
15:35.28 | infobot | Volus: i didn't have anything called 'volus' to forget |
15:36.19 | Volus | Can Infobot remember quotes? |
15:38.12 | Dotted | remove the 5 |
15:38.53 | Dotted | yuck |
15:39.32 | Volus | What? |
15:40.05 | Volus | Isn't that one of those secret codes that grants me power over Infobot? |
15:40.14 | Dotted | no |
15:40.17 | Volus | Infobot, OBEY! |
15:40.17 | infobot | yes master |
15:40.24 | Volus | See? |
15:40.33 | Dotted | no |
15:40.34 | Volus | What is it then? |
15:40.37 | Dotted | no |
15:40.47 | Volus | ... |
15:40.55 | Volus | I think we have a communication problem |
15:41.24 | pcj | no |
15:41.40 | Volus | Yes! |
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15:41.44 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v [NewsBot]] by ChanServ |
15:41.56 | pcj | !wwstats |
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15:43.14 | Volus | At what ratio does spell damage increase the ammount of damage that can be absorbed by mage shields? |
15:44.37 | moveax | I don't know if this is worth a mention, but the rank given to you by that goblin in Area 52, "Junior Engineer, Grade 3" is from a TV show called Red Dwarf :> |
15:45.20 | Volus | Go for it :) |
15:45.31 | pcj | foxlit, foxbot plz |
15:46.08 | moveax | "Junior Technician 3rd Grade", sorry |
15:46.40 | moveax | i don't know how-to add a page, so *shrug* |
15:46.50 | Kirkburn | It is? Who is referring to? |
15:48.22 | moveax | Rimmer, he was a Junior Technician 3rd Grade before he was killed and had his personality placed into the hologram machin.e |
15:49.25 | Kirkburn | Aah, well, if you remember which goblin it is, add it to their page |
15:50.04 | moveax | Lead Sapper Blastfizzle |
15:50.17 | Kirkburn | [[Lead Sapper Blastfizzle]] |
15:50.21 | moveax | I think, that;s in the quest log anyway |
15:50.30 | Kirkburn | Argh, newsbot not here |
15:51.05 | Kirkburn | Hmm, not sure it's that one |
15:51.09 | pcj | kek |
15:51.40 | Kirkburn | The lead guy there, whatever his name is |
15:52.31 | moveax | Ah, it's the guy who wants to get the rocket in the air |
15:52.32 | Kirkburn | Aha! http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:You%27re_Hired%21 |
15:52.36 | moveax | yep |
15:52.38 | moveax | there you go |
15:52.49 | moveax | that's the first quest i believe |
15:53.14 | Kirkburn | If you want to try editing, I would add a trivia section above the external links with that info |
15:53.40 | moveax | OK, I'll give it a shot :) do I need to reister an account or anything? |
15:54.03 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
15:54.26 | Volus | Well, good luck. |
15:54.58 | Volus | Kirkburn, are you still angry at me? |
15:55.59 | Kirkburn | Yes, a bit - you rather compounded by posting a random several line non-english poem |
15:56.44 | Volus | Perhaps I should translate it? |
15:56.48 | pcj | No |
15:57.10 | Volus | Ok, pcj. |
15:57.42 | Volus | Well, I didn't want to do anything evil or something like that, Kirkburn. |
15:58.01 | pcj | The road to hell is paved with good intentions |
15:58.14 | foxlit | Wasn't there a You're Fired! quest as one of the last you could do in Blade's Edge while leveling? |
15:58.33 | moveax | Kirkburn: No e-mail ey to confirm addy? |
15:58.38 | Volus | How do you get to heaven the, Pcj`? |
15:58.43 | Volus | then* |
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16:01.19 | Kirkburn | moveax, give it a short while |
16:01.43 | Volus | :) |
16:01.46 | pcj | Wait for it...wait for it... |
16:02.03 | Dotted | Volus http://da.wow.wikia.com/index.php?title=Brugerdiskussion:Dotted&diff=0&oldid=111 WTF is this guy trying to say? Is he incapeable of english? |
16:02.16 | pcj | *incapable |
16:02.22 | Fisker- | ownt Dotted |
16:02.42 | Volus | WHo? To whom? |
16:02.57 | Dotted | how can a typo own me Fisker-? |
16:03.36 | Volus | Well, Dotted. I'm afraid he has |
16:03.51 | Dotted | he has what? |
16:04.41 | Volus | problems with languages. |
16:05.10 | Dotted | then get him to use you, because i really cant be bothered with norwegian |
16:05.25 | Volus | That isn't Norwegian. |
16:05.40 | Dotted | i dont care |
16:05.56 | pcj | !wwstats |
16:06.11 | Volus | No, obviously not. |
16:06.51 | Volus | Sigh. |
16:07.39 | Volus | Dessuaktet, Dotted. Dessuaktet, Dotted. |
16:08.12 | Volus | Anyway, let's talk about something positive for a change. |
16:08.27 | Dotted | help me Fisker- |
16:09.24 | Volus | Let me help you |
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16:09.33 | Volus | Welcome back, Gimliii :) |
16:10.47 | Kirkburn | moveax, any luck? |
16:10.54 | Volus | Kirkburn, I've heard you're going to upgrade to a newer version of MediaWiki. |
16:11.09 | Kirkburn | orly? |
16:11.16 | Kirkburn | I thought we'd hidden the notice quite well ... |
16:11.29 | Volus | I guess you're been central in the process ;) |
16:12.03 | moveax | Kirkburn: No. Nothing has been sent. |
16:12.21 | Volus | Anyway, Kirkburn. Is it long till your graduation ceremony? :) |
16:16.10 | Kirkburn | moveax, hmm, strange |
16:16.35 | Kirkburn | if it doesn't come soonish, I'll poke someone |
16:17.30 | Volus | Hmm, ok. It's been quite a while since you sat your exams. |
16:18.03 | Volus | Would you consider it unpleasant if we sent you a card? |
16:19.50 | Volus | Dotted: I think Zizanzu tried to write Danish :P |
16:20.19 | Dotted | very |
16:20.42 | Volus | Not you, Dotted. |
16:21.03 | pcj | I would too |
16:22.15 | Volus | If the members of Wowwiki sent you a card to congratulate you? |
16:23.25 | moveax | Kirkburn: okies |
16:23.48 | Kirkburn | moveax, sure it hasn't been eaten by a spam blocker? |
16:24.06 | Kirkburn | This has happened before, but it really shouldn't |
16:24.08 | moveax | very, because id ont' have one |
16:24.11 | Kirkburn | :P |
16:24.15 | Volus | Well, what do you say, Kirkbirn? |
16:24.20 | Volus | Kirkburn* |
16:24.47 | Kirkburn | To what? |
16:25.13 | Volus | If the members of Wowwiki sent you a card to congratulate you with your graduation? |
16:25.34 | Volus | Dotted and pcj thinks it would be unpleasant for you. |
16:27.28 | Kirkburn | I would be a little disturbed, but the thought is appreciated :P |
16:28.12 | Volus | Well, I guess we would have to do a bit of tracking. |
16:28.26 | moveax | he's just trying to get into your pants, Kirkburn |
16:28.33 | moveax | that's all he really wants |
16:28.56 | Volus | In others one sees oneself. |
16:29.11 | Kirkburn | moveax wants to get in my pants? |
16:29.13 | moveax | That's your excuse for everything. |
16:29.20 | Volus | Who knows, Kirkburn? |
16:29.28 | pcj | you must have some big pants kirkburn |
16:29.30 | Kirkburn | You do, apparently :P |
16:29.32 | moveax | And it can be applied to everything, so it's a rather generic statement :) |
16:31.56 | Volus | Do you know about something else that can be be applied to everything? |
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16:33.27 | Volus | Welcome, Tinyboom :) |
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16:35.56 | moveax | Ues, cheese. |
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16:37.13 | Volus | Magi nerfed again :( |
16:37.20 | moveax | Volus: Yes, cheese. |
16:38.03 | Volus | Why do you think Blizzard buffed hunters anti caster abilities? |
16:42.04 | Volus | lol? |
16:42.27 | Lukian | 'cause mages are pew-pew. |
16:42.37 | Volus | Nah |
16:42.38 | moveax | Because they want hunters to be even more over powered? |
16:42.43 | Volus | Yeah! |
16:42.54 | Lukian | hunters are one of the few classes to be able to take out a warlock :P |
16:43.14 | Volus | Make a new spell then: Inslave warlock |
16:43.41 | moveax | Enslave. |
16:44.11 | Volus | ok |
16:44.55 | Lukian | it's all about arena viability anyway |
16:45.12 | Volus | do you think mages will be buffed soon? |
16:45.31 | moveax | Hunter's do crazy DPS, can trap you to allow them to bandage, have an annoying pet that interupts your spells and also can do crazy DPS and as well as stub you. They can attack multiple targets and if need be, they can make NPC targets attack someone else in BGs. They can run away from you quickly and they can do melee DPS. |
16:46.07 | moveax | What have I missed? Oh no dead zone anymore. |
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16:46.16 | Volus | isnt that a bug? |
16:46.18 | moveax | And a new DoT that reduces healing I believe? |
16:46.27 | Volus | No? Really? |
16:46.29 | moveax | The no dead zone? No, Blizz. removed that. |
16:46.36 | Volus | omg... |
16:47.00 | Volus | which class is best against huntards? |
16:47.11 | moveax | No idea. |
16:47.44 | Lukian | paladins do well |
16:47.51 | Lukian | anything that can melee |
16:48.07 | Volus | Anything that can survive the hutard's kiting |
16:48.09 | Lukian | melee defenses are pretty weak on BM and Marks hunters |
16:49.17 | Lukian | <moveax> And a new DoT that reduces healing I believe? <- not a dot, a magic(?) effect after aimed shot (50% for 10secs?) |
16:49.34 | moveax | yeah that's the one |
16:50.00 | Lukian | aimed shot is a 3.5sec cast, l2interrupt :p |
16:50.11 | Volus | There is only one solution! Huntards must no longer be allowed to wear mail armor! Let profinency for mail armour be the 30 talent in Markmanship. Hunters shouldn't be able to wear mail anyway. |
16:50.24 | moveax | Agreed |
16:50.35 | Lukian | as if we care anyway.. all the BC mail is for shamans :P |
16:50.45 | Codexius-alt | nah, its for magetanks |
16:50.48 | Volus | Like, have anyone ever seen a hunter sneaking around in mail? |
16:50.56 | Volus | a real hunter* |
16:51.16 | Lukian | hunter's don't sneak! We use guns without silencers! :D |
16:51.37 | Lukian | and we roll goblin engineering :p |
16:52.21 | Volus | What's next? Tanks and nukes? |
16:52.24 | Volus | Airplanes? |
16:52.41 | Volus | Oh, wait. We already have airplanes and tanks. |
16:52.46 | moveax | Huntards are basically easy mode for themoron who can't handle a more complex class :) |
16:53.42 | Volus | Do you think Blizzard will introduce weapons of mass destruction into wow? |
16:53.55 | moveax | hopefully. all aimed at huntards |
16:53.59 | Volus | I'd love to nuke ironforge. |
16:54.43 | Lukian | I'd love to 'set up us a bomb' somewhere :D |
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16:59.57 | Codexius-alt | Speaking of nuking ironforge, ever see the old video of a lock's pet who had the baron geddon debuff on it, that he took it out in the ah, and the debuff blew up the AH |
17:00.04 | Codexius-alt | the numbers were all over the screen |
17:00.14 | Codexius-alt | good old days when the debuff was still on when u dismissed ur pet... |
17:01.55 | WyriHaximus5th | lol sounds nice Codexius :D |
17:02.26 | Codexius-alt | theres a vid online of it |
17:02.37 | Codexius-alt | all of a sudden u see the lock SS himself |
17:02.42 | Codexius-alt | a smart hunter nearby FD'ed |
17:02.50 | Codexius-alt | and everyoen else blew up |
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17:03.31 | Codexius-alt | I jsut dont like that your FD is instant, where my invis is 5sec |
17:03.46 | Codexius-alt | same with rogue faint, rogue vanish, etc |
17:04.01 | Codexius-alt | too many times has my invis been broken by a debuff |
17:04.14 | Codexius-alt | that ticked for dmg every 3 sec, while invis is 5sec till aggro drop |
17:04.15 | zeal | Codexius, it's instant, but it lags, mobs still come over and nicely wtf pwn us before they realize we did ;) |
17:04.31 | Codexius-alt | does itl ag with decent latency |
17:04.36 | zeal | aye |
17:04.41 | Codexius-alt | ooh |
17:04.44 | Codexius-alt | i want aware |
17:04.48 | Codexius-alt | wasnt |
17:04.51 | Codexius-alt | my bad |
17:05.44 | zeal | they'll usually get off a single hit before they register we FD'd : / annoying, but yeah, still is better than invis, but then we shouldn't be getting aggro ;) |
17:08.22 | zeal | For the record, if you get trapped my a hunter without them using scatter+trap, you're a nub. Any decent player watches for the trap laying animation (which can't be hidden completely like it used to), you can see them well before you set them off, and even funnier if you run over na unprimed trap thne go back to it and get trapped by it later. |
17:09.44 | zeal | and with that, if you can't close ground on a hunter trying to kite you, you're doing something wrong. Every class can consistantly counter hunter kiting now, most in several ways. |
17:09.51 | zeal | with that said, i'm off out. |
17:10.38 | Codexius-alt | that was immpresive |
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17:26.01 | Volus | Zeal is a hunter :) |
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17:31.12 | Sandwichman2448 | Baggins, what with the mail? |
17:31.34 | Volus | Huntards shouldn't wear mail |
17:33.35 | Sandwichman2448 | The letter kind. Not the chain kind. My hunter was being stalked by Ellaenchant so i gave up on him. |
17:34.40 | Volus | (. ) ( .) Really? Couldn't you ask the GMs for help? |
17:36.47 | Sandwichman2448 | You could do that? |
17:38.04 | Volus | Of course. Harassement is't accepted. |
17:38.18 | Volus | isn't* |
17:39.01 | Sandwichman2448 | Too late for that now. |
17:39.05 | Volus | You just send something like: Dear Sir or Madam, "Name" has bla bla bla. Yours faithfully, Sandwhichman. |
17:39.27 | Volus | You deleted your character? |
17:40.07 | Sandwichman2448 | No he is just unused as of late |
17:41.33 | Volus | Well, then there isn't any problem anymore :) |
17:41.48 | Volus | I think I'll play my priest a bit now. |
17:42.09 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm in her guild. If I quit it will open old things. |
17:42.14 | Sandwichman2448 | Or log on. |
17:42.30 | Volus | Just try |
17:42.43 | Volus | :) |
17:42.46 | Sandwichman2448 | Right now? |
17:42.53 | Volus | Yeah! You can do it |
17:44.03 | Sandwichman2448 | Nah. |
17:44.17 | Volus | If she starts stalking you, you'll just tell her what you really think about her and report her to the GMs |
17:44.44 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mellemage2.png WHAT IN HELL IS THIS THING? |
17:45.17 | pcj | melee mage |
17:45.22 | pcj | it was some stupid article |
17:45.24 | Volus | A picture from a banned person? |
17:45.54 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah |
17:45.58 | Sandwichman2448 | Could be |
17:46.02 | Volus | Kirkburn? |
17:47.03 | Kirkburn | What? |
17:47.09 | Kirkburn | (deleted, btw_ |
17:47.38 | Volus | Talking of banned users... |
17:48.12 | Sandwichman2448 | We also have all the fourum icons in there for some users. |
17:48.16 | Volus | Do you think... do you think there's any chance that I might get off the list? |
17:48.22 | Kirkburn | I fear others may not appreciate it still |
17:48.23 | Sandwichman2448 | reason, not users |
17:50.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Bots remove images from articles. |
17:52.27 | Volus | Kirkburn? |
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17:54.01 | Kirkburn | I thought I just answered |
17:54.29 | Volus | Oh, I thought you were talking to Sandwichman |
17:54.33 | Bagginsww | bucket brigade quest |
17:54.49 | Bagginsww | its a very similar quest style as mailman quests in LOTRO |
17:54.56 | Volus | Well, I guess I'll just hang around until those people will appreciate it. |
17:55.20 | Bagginsww | well not exactly the same |
17:55.47 | Volus | Are there anyone here who don't appreciate my company? |
17:56.23 | Bagginsww | I thought it was the kind where you held something, and couldn't attack enemies or lose your item. so its not really the same at all :p |
17:57.04 | pcj | lol |
17:57.32 | Bagginsww | those quests are fun btw, LOL |
17:57.36 | Volus | See? |
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17:58.09 | pcj | ugggh |
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18:03.01 | Sandwichman2448 | I added the airfeild pics. |
18:06.08 | Bagginsww | cool, though I think we could get improved ones. |
18:06.16 | Bagginsww | no interface or player characters showing |
18:06.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah. I like the first one. |
18:06.54 | Bagginsww | first one at least doesn't have interface showing |
18:07.09 | Bagginsww | I think the best screenshot there would be to wait for the ironforge guard to make his rounds up there |
18:07.15 | Bagginsww | and not show the player |
18:07.26 | Bagginsww | only the guard |
18:09.08 | Sandwichman2448 | Do what you wish. |
18:09.49 | Bagginsww | that particular screen shot may work best on; |
18:09.53 | Bagginsww | [[Ironforge Mountain]] ;) |
18:10.09 | Bagginsww | [[Ironforge Mountain]] |
18:10.18 | Bagginsww | what no newsbot? |
18:10.24 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_Mountain |
18:10.55 | Bagginsww | although I guess all of Dunmorogh is on Ironforge Mountain |
18:11.02 | Bagginsww | we dont' know the name of that specific peak |
18:11.35 | Sandwichman2448 | Let Vagharden make one up. |
18:11.46 | Bagginsww | lawl |
18:12.50 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_Remnant X8 loves high elves so he info boxed it. |
18:13.04 | Kirkburn | Dotted, ping |
18:13.17 | Bagginsww | ya its silly, LOL |
18:13.30 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
18:13.34 | Sandwichman2448 | NOOB NOT POLICYING ALERT! |
18:13.45 | Kirkburn | Sup with Newsbot? |
18:14.02 | Dotted | online again in a few mins |
18:14.08 | Dotted | hopefully |
18:14.10 | Sandwichman2448 | I dont want it to be in my namespace, it is too good for that you are a vandal |
18:14.18 | Sandwichman2448 | BLA BLA BLA |
18:14.28 | Kirkburn | okies |
18:14.41 | Sandwichman2448 | I'll kill all the noobs; I'll kill all their dogs! |
18:14.55 | Bagginsww | btw slang section needs to be made optional |
18:15.00 | Sandwichman2448 | NAMESPACE PC BIOS DAMMIT! |
18:15.14 | pcj | swman... |
18:15.54 | Sandwichman2448 | Yes? |
18:16.02 | pcj | settle down |
18:16.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Ok. |
18:16.16 | pcj | [[WW:PC]] is server namespace anyway |
18:16.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Then do so. |
18:17.18 | Sandwichman2448 | What about Saurfang facts? How wikify it? |
18:18.02 | pcj | It's an unsorted list of hundreds of random facts, some of which aren't even very good. How do you not see the problem there? |
18:18.19 | Sandwichman2448 | Pcj: 'Oh, i'll just slap on this stub without giving a reason to dive that stupid foodguy nuts.' |
18:18.22 | Sandwichman2448 | What? |
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18:18.32 | pcj | rfang facts? How wikify it? |
18:18.32 | pcj | <pcj> It's an unsorted list of hu |
18:18.36 | pcj | bah |
18:18.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Um... How do you want me to fix that? |
18:18.44 | pcj | !wwstats |
18:18.54 | *** part/#wowwiki [NewsBot] (i=NewsBot@unaffiliated/dotted/bot/newsbot) |
18:18.56 | pcj | I said how it should be fixed |
18:19.07 | Sandwichman2448 | I see no problem. |
18:20.35 | Sandwichman2448 | [[WoWWiki:Policy/Writing]] |
18:20.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm... |
18:20.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Maybe. |
18:20.44 | Kirkburn | Newsbot went again :P |
18:20.53 | Sandwichman2448 | 10 facts? |
18:20.58 | Sandwichman2448 | Lame. |
18:21.04 | Sandwichman2448 | No humor there. |
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18:23.01 | Sandwichman2448 | Pcj? |
18:25.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Pcj? |
18:25.19 | Sandwichman2448 | Pcj? |
18:25.19 | Sandwichman2448 | Pcj? |
18:25.37 | Sandwichman2448 | You want... 10 facst? |
18:25.42 | Sandwichman2448 | facts |
18:25.56 | Sandwichman2448 | +/- |
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18:26.19 | Dotted | !wwstats |
18:26.19 | [NewsBot] | Channels stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
18:26.23 | Dotted | FU |
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18:28.38 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
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18:29.49 | pcj | !wwstats |
18:29.52 | Dotted | there we go |
18:30.11 | [NewsBot] | Channels stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
18:30.20 | pcj | !jobqueue |
18:30.22 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 9950 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 2hrs 45mins 50secs. |
18:31.06 | Dotted | happy now Kirkburn :P? |
18:31.14 | Kirkburn | :D |
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18:33.10 | Sandwichman2448 | X8 is sigging again... |
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18:34.53 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Insider Weekly - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/27/wow-insider-weekly/ |
18:36.25 | Bagginsww | I think sigs should be limited to only staff members ;) |
18:36.39 | Sandwichman2448 | Ok. |
18:36.43 | Bagginsww | which you should be btw |
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18:37.29 | Bagginsww | well you are a cleaner |
18:37.32 | Bagginsww | that's staff |
18:37.47 | Bagginsww | although its not official organization? |
18:38.01 | Bagginsww | I mean anyone can call themselves a cleaner? |
18:38.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Dunno |
18:38.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Wikisoap |
18:38.53 | Sandwichman2448 | Unknown, but they serve one master. Speculation on WoWWiki includes Kil'jaeden, Deathwing (who must be busy with all this plotting), the Old Gods, and some sort of creepy alternaverse Medivh. |
18:39.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Infinate dragons |
18:39.19 | Bagginsww | alternaverse Medivh? |
18:40.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Dunno. |
18:40.32 | Sandwichman2448 | WoW insider said it.; |
18:40.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dryad |
18:42.06 | Sandwichman2448 | :) |
18:43.00 | Bagginsww | to be honest I don't know why LemonBaby assumed Aessina looked like a tree, LOL |
18:43.17 | Sandwichman2448 | The files nameing it a shrine? |
18:43.34 | Bagginsww | its Dryad shrine" not Aessina Shrine ;) |
18:43.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Not dryad tree spirt |
18:43.58 | Sandwichman2448 | :P |
18:44.17 | Bagginsww | there aren't any of those trees in aessina's shrine either |
18:44.28 | foxlit | alternaverse = land which everyone who cares about Lore is disqualified from making theories about. |
18:45.15 | Sandwichman2448 | Woo! |
18:45.39 | Sandwichman2448 | there is one in one of the saytr places i think. |
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18:46.55 | Bagginsww | hmm, cool I'll have to look for it |
18:47.19 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Anilia |
18:47.22 | Sandwichman2448 | By her |
18:47.27 | Sandwichman2448 | It is dead. |
18:47.33 | Sandwichman2448 | i may be wrong. |
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18:50.57 | Bagginsww | ahh |
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18:51.30 | Sandwichman2448 | X8 is alwas fun to correct. |
18:55.13 | Bagginsww | Built ages ago by the night elves, this ancient shrine dedicated to the wilderness spirit Aessina lies in the midst of a forest glade in Ashenvale's heart. The shrine is a clear forest pool with a statue of Aessina, standing beside it, clothed only in ivy. Dryads are known to visit the shrine to venerate Aessina.WRPG 187 |
18:55.35 | Bagginsww | X8 is annoying. But doesn't cause alot of problems. |
18:57.01 | Sandwichman2448 | His fanfic boils down to: 'High elves are teh going to rule the world!! Gnomes too!' |
18:57.27 | Bagginsww | uh huh |
18:58.15 | Bagginsww | I don't read them, I don't read fanfic in general. But if his fanfic is as bad as his regular posts, it must be pretty poorly written. |
18:58.52 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Engineering: 2.3 and beyond - |
18:58.55 | Sandwichman2448 | I read everything by everyone. |
18:59.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Sometimes. |
18:59.21 | Bagginsww | lol |
19:05.31 | Oree | av weekend.. need.. more... honor.... stab.. my.. eyes.... |
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19:08.40 | Sandwichman2448 | Honor? they nerfed that. |
19:08.57 | Sandwichman2448 | All PvP but ganking and point capture really. |
19:09.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Until the promised-but-going-to-be-nerfed stuff in WotLK. |
19:11.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Umm... I just opened a can of X8 flavored worms. |
19:13.41 | Sandwichman2448 | HELP? |
19:14.52 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Arena Junkie: Rock, paper, scissors? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/27/arena-junkie-rock-paper-scissors/ |
19:17.17 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: PTR Maintenance 10/27/07 1PM Pacific - http://www.wowblues.com/us/ptr-maintenance-102707-1pm-pacific-2647256325.html |
19:17.28 | Kirkburn | Yay news |
19:19.05 | Kaydeethree|2 | bleh for not having access to my computer with wow on it so I could get the patch done before I go back home |
19:19.22 | Sandwichman2448 | the subzone tempate and box should match for Howling fjord. |
19:19.28 | Sandwichman2448 | It doesn't |
19:19.42 | Sandwichman2448 | My bad. |
19:21.37 | Sandwichman2448 | I got to do things. Bye. |
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19:32.32 | Sky2042 | lol kirkburn, you got called out |
19:32.47 | Kirkburn | ? |
19:32.59 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkburn&curid=38481&diff=943484&oldid=941939 |
19:34.10 | pcj | ouch |
19:34.18 | Kirkburn | Hardly >_> |
19:34.26 | Kaso | that guy is a little demanding isnt he |
19:34.45 | Kirkburn | Saying someone can do something isn't the same as telling them how to do it :P |
19:34.54 | Sky2042 | lol |
19:35.02 | Sky2042 | fine distinction |
19:36.11 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that sentence comes close |
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19:42.25 | Kirkburn | Bah, removing the sentence |
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19:45.08 | Kirkburn | Ooh, The Hinterlands has just gone foggy |
19:45.23 | Kirkburn | Maybe there'll be rain |
19:46.55 | Kaso | I love the weather, i wish there was more in outland |
19:47.39 | Sky2042 | piu: when you clear a category, can you check for incoming links and change them to the correct category, then {{sd}} the cat? |
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19:48.24 | piu | yeah, I haven't {{sd}} ed any cats yet until I'm sure I got everything |
19:49.16 | Kirkburn | At least we know every Northrend zone will have it |
19:49.22 | Kirkburn | Does Nagrand ever get rain? |
19:49.35 | Kirkburn | (well, I'm pretty sure every zone will have it) |
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19:50.35 | Kaso | ive never seen any outland weather except the bit at marsh a bit |
19:50.58 | Kaso | i guess the whole "floating chunk of rock in space" thing doesnt lend itself to weather |
19:52.29 | Sky2042 | lol |
19:52.33 | pcj | I find it ironic that outland breaks off immediately behind the Dark Portal and there's nothing behind it, and that hellfire peninsula isn't amazingly broken up |
19:52.36 | Sky2042 | how exactly are you breathing then? |
19:52.38 | Sky2042 | xD |
19:52.42 | Sky2042 | oh, of course pcj |
19:54.34 | pcj | Also, the whole "gravity" thing |
19:54.48 | Kaso | A wizard did it |
19:54.49 | pcj | Outland doesn't seem to have enough mass to still be 1 G |
19:54.57 | Kirkburn | Ever looked down? |
19:55.08 | Kirkburn | Blizzard terrain modelling is very basic |
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19:55.17 | Kirkburn | There is no "underneath" :( |
19:55.21 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
19:55.29 | Kirkburn | It goes all the way down |
19:55.44 | pcj | It would be awesome if there were an underneath, with little outcroppings and places to hide |
19:55.45 | Kirkburn | Hey Sko |
19:55.59 | piu | the turtle holding it up is massive enough to account for the gravity |
19:55.59 | Kirkburn | Aye, I'd love if we could fly under land, but alas |
19:56.17 | Kaso | turtles all the way down! |
19:56.17 | pcj | Skosiris: about using Wowhead for WoWWiki tooltips, that would be no-go :P |
19:56.21 | Kirkburn | I'm wondering how Azjol Nerub will be created |
19:56.25 | Kirkburn | Also, yay @ Kaso :P |
19:56.43 | Kirkburn | I'm sure it surely can't one huge model |
19:57.06 | Kaso | When i was playing beta, and i got my flying mount, i spent the first few days checking every floating rock |
19:57.10 | Skosiris | pcj: what do you mean? |
19:57.20 | Sky2042 | skosiris: have you seen what pcj coded up? :) |
19:57.24 | Kaso | i hoped there'd be some cool NPC hiding out on one of them with a quest to give you |
19:57.33 | pcj | not via AJAX anyway :P |
19:57.36 | Kirkburn | But it'd require an overhaul of the terrain system, so that more than one level of terrain is possible |
19:57.39 | pcj | ever heard of XSS? :P |
19:58.09 | pcj | Kirkburn, don't the islands above nagrand qualify as a second level of terrain? |
19:58.14 | Skosiris | Sky2042: not recently |
19:58.18 | Kirkburn | Nah, they're just models |
19:58.37 | Kirkburn | Same way that caves work |
19:58.42 | pcj | Ah |
19:58.49 | Kirkburn | Models with entrances on the terrain |
19:59.02 | piu | kirkburn, I think entire cities are models, like IF and UC |
19:59.07 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
19:59.15 | piu | so AZ would be no different? |
19:59.21 | piu | or you think it will be bigger? |
19:59.32 | Kirkburn | Silvermoon City had an article on how it was created |
19:59.34 | piu | Azjol-Nerub that is |
19:59.46 | Kirkburn | Hmm, bigger I rather hope, it's an entire zone |
20:00.21 | piu | Well, I think wow's model code allows for partial loading, or they break it up into sections that are relatively seamless |
20:00.53 | piu | I've never experimented with the model viewer, but that's how I'd code it |
20:01.22 | Sky2042 | Skosiris: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj/itemtooltip.js |
20:01.42 | Kirkburn | Map viewer shows areas in sections, but I think WoW itself is much better |
20:02.35 | Sky2042 | Skosiris: mouse over the [loot] over on the right side http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Chicken_Clucking_for_a_Mint |
20:02.52 | Kirkburn | However, you can view entire cave system .wmo's in model viewer |
20:04.15 | Kirkburn | Yay Wetlands rain |
20:06.27 | Sky2042 | Skosiris: mouse over the [loot] over on the right side http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Chicken_Clucking_for_a_Mint |
20:06.30 | Sky2042 | gah! |
20:06.42 | pcj | omg spam |
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20:07.28 | Sky2042 | piu: can you get all the names sorted first before subcatting? I can follow up your bot with somethin like autowikibrowser and fix up the cats at about 5/6 a minute. (i wish it weren't broken... i'd prolly be able to hit 10ish a minute) |
20:07.35 | Skosiris | appears to be working great |
20:08.24 | Kirkburn | Btw, having pcj's js doesn't preclude us from using a proper one another time |
20:08.25 | piu | how so? I'm sorting to subcats first now |
20:08.31 | Kirkburn | Once we're upgraded to 1.11 anyway |
20:08.37 | piu | then moving everything out of the old cat |
20:08.40 | Kirkburn | (i.e. teomyr's wowhead extension) |
20:08.54 | Sky2042 | piu: i mean, finish renaming the zones first, then work through the other stuff |
20:08.55 | Kirkburn | Crap, took the wrong boat |
20:08.59 | Sky2042 | owned! |
20:09.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, hello Auberdine >< |
20:09.32 | piu | you mean just auto-moving the articles? |
20:09.59 | piu | from e.g. Zone:Badlands to Badlands?? |
20:10.01 | Sky2042 | yeah |
20:10.09 | Sky2042 | then work through the NCPs and such |
20:10.18 | Sky2042 | s/NCPs/NPCs |
20:10.27 | piu | Well, here's what I was gonna do: |
20:10.48 | piu | Make the NPCs and mobs subcats with the proper name |
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20:10.59 | piu | then, move articles from the Zone: cat to the proper subcat |
20:11.09 | piu | then clean up the remainder into the new base cat |
20:11.14 | piu | then delete old cat |
20:11.35 | piu | fewer edits that way |
20:11.51 | piu | Each article gets touched once with the correct category |
20:12.48 | Sky2042 | "eh" |
20:13.21 | piu | how does AWB do it? |
20:14.00 | Dotted | Fisker- http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/article352544.ece ;;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D |
20:14.35 | Sky2042 | well, it takes a list of articles (which is the primary brokenness, as i can only get it from a user's contribs). then it basically moves through each one, stopping on the articles that contain a certain text to be edited, or what not. if the re-cat function were working, i believe that also happen semi-automatically |
20:14.56 | Sky2042 | people developing it have said they aren't going to make it for other wikis, which makes me a sad panda |
20:15.50 | piu | I'm doing about 5-6 per min with pywiki, mainly because I'm throttling it to 10 seconds min per edit |
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20:16.43 | piu | it gets its article list directly from the category page, shows the first ~500 bytes of the page or so, and asks which subcat it should go in |
20:16.47 | Sky2042 | yeah, i can usually get awb up to 5-6 a min |
20:17.14 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: is http://www.wowwiki.com/Instance move protect for some reason? :| |
20:17.17 | theurge14 | <PROTECTED> |
20:17.44 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, yes, due to popularity |
20:17.53 | Kirkburn | Did it a while back |
20:18.05 | Sky2042 | can you move it back to Instance? I'm really curious as to why it was mved to "Instance guide" |
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20:19.00 | Kirkburn | Wait, what? |
20:19.33 | piu | Sky, you just want me to move a category so you can use Piubot's contribs list to sub cat it? |
20:20.13 | Kirkburn | I've reverted Instance back to the disambig page it used to be |
20:20.15 | Sky2042 | piu: yes, but maybe later, when i get back on... mother is calling for something :| |
20:20.32 | Kirkburn | But Instance guide has never been at Instance |
20:20.42 | Sky2042 | ... |
20:20.44 | piu | OK, that's easy enough, when I go run some errands later I'll let it run on a few cats |
20:20.56 | Sky2042 | why the hell are all those in different places? :| |
20:21.05 | Sky2042 | that could all be on one page |
20:21.21 | Sky2042 | piu: cool. |
20:22.36 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, dunno, it is a bit silly |
20:22.47 | Sky2042 | something else to clean up |
20:22.51 | Sky2042 | weeeeee |
20:23.11 | Kirkburn | Well, instance guide is fine as it imo, but the related pages could be simpler |
20:23.32 | Fisker- | http://i21.tinypic.com/hs1jlk.png <-AWSUM FYSIX |
20:24.18 | Sky2042 | kirkburn: they should all be on [[Instance]] >_< |
20:24.31 | Kirkburn | Why? |
20:24.43 | Kirkburn | Instance should explain what an instance is |
20:24.52 | Sky2042 | heh |
20:24.52 | Kirkburn | List of instances would be the place for a list of instances |
20:24.54 | Sky2042 | w/e |
20:25.12 | Kirkburn | :P |
20:25.14 | Sky2042 | I'd rather it be on all the same page, as there isn't a real reason to separate them up |
20:25.23 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: agreed. that is sweet. |
20:25.28 | Kirkburn | Fair, but don't want the pages becoming too long |
20:25.37 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: lol, |
20:25.43 | Kirkburn | Floating trees? Is that ... the emerald dream? |
20:25.55 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: too long? there are longer outthere :P |
20:26.14 | Kirkburn | You speaky da english? |
20:26.19 | Fisker- | doh |
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20:26.36 | Kirkburn | C'mon, it's pretty long :P |
20:26.45 | Voluspaa | EVERYONE! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO YOU ALL! |
20:26.46 | bleeter | Kirkburn: I speak Eenglish goood. I learn it from a book </manuel> |
20:26.49 | Voluspaa | http://youtube.com/watch?v=jxZRPGG1x8U |
20:26.56 | Kirkburn | bleeter, :) |
20:27.18 | bleeter | Kirkburn: Oh, I know! |
20:27.20 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: anyway, the tables aren't on the main page. |
20:27.30 | Sky2042 | they're on sub pages |
20:27.33 | Kirkburn | True, it's more about scrolling though |
20:27.35 | Sky2042 | or templates |
20:27.36 | bleeter | I know! |
20:27.44 | Voluspaa | Hum-hum! |
20:28.10 | Kirkburn | Voluspaa, holy hell. Is that what you just spent your afternoon making? :P |
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20:28.21 | Kirkburn | SWG has elections iirc |
20:28.32 | Voluspaa | Yes, am I good or what? |
20:29.08 | bleeter | I knoooow! |
20:30.39 | Voluspaa | Anyway Kirkburn. Perhaps you've changed your mind? :) |
20:31.01 | Kirkburn | It's not about me :P |
20:31.15 | Voluspaa | <------ |
20:31.25 | ^MrMike^ | Hey all, hope someone can help me out. I'm pretty new to WoW and have a couple questions about Paladins. I've done a good amount of research both on the Wiki and other sites, but still confused over a couple things. Should I ask my (somewhat lengthly) questions in here or would someone be up to helping me out in private? |
20:31.38 | Voluspaa | Sure |
20:31.43 | Voluspaa | Ask as much as you like |
20:31.53 | ^MrMike^ | Great, thanks! |
20:32.08 | ^MrMike^ | And please pardon me if I mess up on any terminology, still learning that as well. ;) |
20:32.16 | Voluspaa | No problem. |
20:32.42 | Kirkburn | Down goes Gahz'rilla! |
20:32.50 | Voluspaa | Well done! ;) |
20:33.02 | ^MrMike^ | My goal is to work towards a build that'll work well for soloing, as I usually just play WoW for a few hours a day and often don't end up going into groups. |
20:33.16 | Kirkburn | He's tough to solo ;) |
20:33.47 | Voluspaa | What level are you? |
20:33.49 | Kirkburn | Hmm, are ret paladins any good for soling in 2.3? |
20:34.00 | ^MrMike^ | I've found a bit of conflicting information on how to go about that. Or, I'm just misunderstanding what people are recommendating. I've seen recommendations for Holy/Protection and others for Holy/Retribution. |
20:34.02 | Kirkburn | *soloing |
20:34.25 | ^MrMike^ | One place on your Wiki where I looked is here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin_builds and that page seems to recommend both...unless, like I said, I'm just confused. |
20:34.28 | Kirkburn | Retribution is being improved somewhat in the next patch |
20:34.30 | ^MrMike^ | Right now I'm just level 12. |
20:34.33 | Voluspaa | I would go for retribution |
20:34.43 | ^MrMike^ | I'm trying to not take the wrong path. |
20:34.48 | ^MrMike^ | Okay. |
20:34.53 | Kirkburn | I wouldn't worry too much |
20:35.18 | Kirkburn | You can always respec (change your talents) for a small fee |
20:35.40 | ^MrMike^ | True. I was leaning more towards the retribution angle, since more sites seemed to recommend that over protection. |
20:36.07 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I would too |
20:36.08 | Voluspaa | Protection is only good for tanking; group play |
20:36.24 | ^MrMike^ | Ah, gotcha. |
20:36.27 | Kirkburn | I haven't played my 42 paladin for a while, but I levelled her as protection ... eww |
20:36.28 | Voluspaa | Holy is good for healing, which means group play too. |
20:38.02 | ^MrMike^ | Should the talens I build influence what spells I learn? For example, should I only learn Holy/Retribution spells, or is it okay to learn Protection spells as well? |
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20:38.22 | Voluspaa | Of course |
20:38.46 | Voluspaa | You should learn all the spells you get |
20:38.47 | piu | it's always best to learn all your spells |
20:39.02 | piu | you'll usually use everything regardless of spec |
20:39.08 | Voluspaa | At which server are you playing? |
20:39.11 | Kirkburn | Now that I've finished ZF, it's off to see if I missed any Winterspring quests |
20:39.13 | ^MrMike^ | Ah...that clears things up a LOT. :) |
20:39.23 | ^MrMike^ | I'm on Garona. |
20:39.40 | Voluspaa | U.S. or EU? |
20:39.47 | ^MrMike^ | U.S. |
20:40.19 | Kirkburn | (this channel is fairly evenly split between US and EU) |
20:40.30 | bleeter | (and freaks) |
20:40.37 | ^MrMike^ | lol |
20:40.46 | Kirkburn | (yes, one Australian freak) |
20:41.17 | Kirkburn | Do you identify as Aussie or Tasmanian btw? |
20:41.40 | Voluspaa | I regard everyone here as Europeans anyway. America and Australia are just extentions of Europe. :P |
20:41.46 | Kirkburn | lol |
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20:41.56 | ^MrMike^ | lol |
20:42.13 | bleeter | meh, Europe's just a mix of African and Neanderthal |
20:42.22 | piu | and all europeoners are really middle-easterners? |
20:42.23 | bleeter | with more Neanderthal afaict |
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20:44.17 | ^MrMike^ | Have to run, but thanks so much for the help! |
20:44.30 | Voluspaa | You're welcome ;) |
20:44.34 | ^MrMike^ | :) |
20:44.38 | Voluspaa | Oh, remember! |
20:44.51 | Voluspaa | Volus 08! Because you know what's right! |
20:45.04 | Voluspaa | Night-night :) |
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20:45.19 | Sky2042 | piu: unless you're a mage... |
20:45.24 | Sky2042 | -_- |
20:57.08 | Fisker- | suddenly i'll attack |
20:58.00 | Dotted | ;O |
21:00.04 | Sky2042_afk | NINJAS, THOUSANDS OF THEM |
21:01.09 | Dotted | OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111 |
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21:21.35 | Fisker- | Bibi` |
21:26.31 | Fisker- | Bibi` get here |
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21:32.39 | Fisker- | Bagginsww |
21:32.41 | Fisker- | doh |
21:32.41 | Fisker- | Bibi` |
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22:02.27 | Bibi` | Fisker- : Adys can ban too. |
22:02.28 | Bibi` | (and did) |
22:02.38 | Fisker- | yeah |
22:02.39 | Bibi` | well, it didn't work because Adys can't check the small "ban triggers" things |
22:02.40 | Bibi` | but he can. |
22:02.44 | Adys | [23:47:03] <Adys> I can ban people on mmo champ, just ask me next time |
22:03.05 | Adys | i did Bibi` |
22:03.27 | Fisker- | i was liek onos has to login and refresh the page a billiion times each time he posts a topic :( |
22:03.54 | Bibi` | Fisker- : saved the URL of the site ? |
22:04.12 | Fisker- | you mean the session id? |
22:04.14 | Fisker- | no |
22:04.19 | Adys | no |
22:04.23 | Fisker- | I logout, refresh the page, login, refresh the page |
22:04.24 | Bibi` | the URL he spammed |
22:04.24 | Adys | of the wotlk website |
22:04.27 | Fisker- | oh |
22:04.46 | Fisker- | something with w0rldofwarcraft.clanteam.com/ |
22:05.01 | Adys | wow |
22:05.04 | Adys | he tried real hard. |
22:06.23 | Bibi` | Fisker- : get me the exact URL (browse your history !) |
22:06.32 | Kirkburn | Wow, I just saw the weirdest bug - WoW got confused over who got aggro |
22:06.42 | Kirkburn | I was running near Stonard on my 70, past a 36 scout |
22:06.44 | Bibi` | Kirkburn : tête à claques. |
22:06.49 | Kirkburn | Suddenly I gain aggro, but not the from scout |
22:06.59 | Fisker- | i don't got history Bibi` |
22:07.01 | Bibi` | not the from scout ? :( |
22:07.03 | Fisker- | gonna try and guess it instead |
22:07.07 | Bibi` | Fisker- : bah, k |
22:07.09 | Kirkburn | Then I see a guy bounding towards me away from 2 65 guards ... but they're chasing me! |
22:07.27 | Adys | Kirkburn: want me to explain? :P |
22:07.37 | Kirkburn | Okay? |
22:07.41 | piu | I've seen that screwy aggro before |
22:07.51 | Fisker- | can you see edit history Bibi`? |
22:07.53 | Adys | City guards dont have the same kind of aggro over that |
22:08.00 | Fisker- | i saved a copy in the mods forum without the link |
22:08.02 | Adys | stonard's 65 guards are trigger spawned |
22:08.08 | Bibi` | Fisker- : nop |
22:08.09 | Kirkburn | oh? |
22:08.15 | Adys | however there is a maximum of x guards spawned per person and minutes |
22:08.32 | Adys | when you run past a civilian its supposed to spawn a guard |
22:08.45 | Adys | however, the other guy already spawned them |
22:08.52 | Adys | normally, you'd spawn another guard |
22:08.58 | Fisker- | it's definitely something with http://w0rldofwarcraft.clanteam.com |
22:09.08 | Kirkburn | Not a civilian though, I was way outside the entrance, passing a scout at greater distance than should aggro them |
22:09.09 | Adys | but instead you get his guards since you cant spawn more |
22:09.43 | Adys | i think certain guards are considered as civilians |
22:09.48 | Adys | or spawn guards themselves |
22:09.50 | Adys | im not sure though |
22:11.49 | Kirkburn | Sounds like it could be related |
22:13.44 | Kirkburn | Sunken Temple time :P |
22:15.06 | pcj | CODE GREEN |
22:15.10 | pcj | mt |
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23:50.55 | Sky2042 | i r back...awoken from my slumber by a phone call |
23:52.17 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: did you ever see http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Zone_Screenshots in your hunt for FM? |
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23:53.44 | Kirkburn | Summoning Hakkar :P |
23:54.29 | Sky2042 | well, ok, you do that |
23:57.03 | Kirkburn | Nope, didn't notice it :P |
23:58.27 | Sky2042 | piu: still workin on subcats? |
23:58.51 | piu | yup, but I'm gonna play some 49 WSG when I'm done with Wetlands |
23:59.02 | piu | you need a cat moved for AWB? |
23:59.21 | Sky2042 | or 3 :) |
23:59.28 | piu | which ones |