IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070821

00:00.12winkillerahyea
00:00.19winkillerit was a display bug I guess
00:00.21winkillernow I have it
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00:26.44KirkburnZurr, fixed MP
00:26.54KirkburnAFKDuTempete, also fixed :P
00:27.10KirkburnWell spotted :)
00:36.58pcjhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retired_The_Price_Is_Right_pricing_games
00:49.01DuTempetealso fixed what, Kirkburn?
00:49.14KirkburnThe Main Page cat
00:50.24DuTempetelol that was all Zurr and Sandwichman
00:52.33Zurr[[Meta:?????????????]]
00:52.37DuTempeteMmm... Tenacious D.
00:52.40Zurrbah, can't link it
00:53.00DuTempeteKielbasa Sausage... hmm hmm is warm...
00:53.06Zurrtheres a bad page linking some to a foriegn language page
00:54.08DuTempeteAhhh, The D is so delightfully vulgar. :)
00:55.24DuTempeteGood theme music for wiki editing too, methinks.
00:57.10DuTempeteLets just hope I don't slip and link to [[Butt cheese]] from [[Cleave (Felguard)]]...
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00:58.31DuTempeteZurr
00:58.52DuTempeteLaurlybot doesn't do quests that don't have typical disambigs like level and faction
00:59.23DuTempete[[Quest:Gakin's Summons (Succubus)]] doesn't work.
00:59.23[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Gakin's_Summons_(Succubus)
00:59.30Zurrits a minibot thing, its just searching through anything in the wanted pages that starts with Quest:
00:59.39DuTempeteas well as the others that you tagged
00:59.39Kirkburnhttp://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page is somewhat expanded :)
00:59.47DuTempeteminibot?
00:59.53DuTempetelol Kirk
00:59.54Kirkburn(yay for harvesting wikipedia)
00:59.55foxlitbioshock needs a wiki?
01:00.00Zurr6 line macro
01:00.08DuTempeteapparently it already has a wiki, foxlit =P
01:00.17DuTempeteWell, wtf am I supposed to do with them, now?
01:00.21foxlitTbh I'll never want more detail than what's already in the wikipedia article
01:00.37DuTempeteI suppose I'll just mark them stubs.
01:00.49Zurrdon't
01:00.54DuTempetewhy not?
01:00.55Kirkburnffs, Google isn't indexing us again
01:00.55Zurri'll sift through them and fix them
01:01.02DuTempeteokies
01:01.02foxlitI've come to a depressing realization - we don't actually have 42k articles
01:01.13DuTempeteI had all the lock quests tagged that laurlybot could do.
01:01.24DuTempeteThe 3 that were left are the only ones she can't.
01:01.56KirkburnDuTempete, no idea
01:02.15DuTempeteabout what?
01:02.18KirkburnThis happened before ... the Fallout wiki just dropped from Google, as did other sties
01:02.19foxlitA lot of those are actually item/npc profiles in disguise, which really shouldn't count as "articles" unless they contain some singificant content
01:02.41Kirkburnit wasn't that is wasn't getting indexed, it was that Google was literally dropping the links
01:02.50foxlithttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&q=GetFrameStrata
01:02.53foxlitWorks fine for me
01:03.05Kirkburn(I realise now you weren't responding to me)
01:03.09DuTempeteWonderboy, what is the secret of your power?
01:03.25Kirkburnfoxlit, yeah, we're not wikia though, are we :)
01:03.25DuTempeteWonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck, yeah.
01:03.40DuTempeteIt's ok, Kirk, I forgive you.
01:03.52Kirkburn(i.e. different servers, accounts, address)
01:03.56Kirkburnyay
01:04.03foxlit<Kirkburn> ffs, Google isn't indexing us again
01:04.14foxlitI just assumed "us" meant wowwiki, not wikia
01:04.46DuTempeteHey, Kirkburn, your wiki box still says google ads...
01:05.18DuTempeteyeah, foxlit, seeing as we're at #wowwiki...
01:06.30DuTempeteThere! The cravasse; fill it with your mighty juice!
01:06.48DuTempeteOh! My 2nd fav D song!
01:07.38Zurrtheres over 10k things in the wanted list
01:08.42DuTempeteThat's scary.
01:08.45DuTempeteOf course, at least 2k of those are just fuckups.
01:09.24Kirkburnfoxlit, oops P
01:09.55Zurrfoxbot added a lot of those, beginsquest=#####  in the item tooltips
01:10.27DuTempetequest IDs rather than names?
01:10.32Zurryeah
01:10.38DuTempeteBad Foxbot!
01:10.52DuTempeteUnless we're doing that, now, but I don't see why we would.
01:14.24DuTempeteDammit... Wowhead doesn't have a definite page for this doomguard spell :(
01:14.46Zurrbecause it is called Ritual of Doom
01:14.50Zurror Curse of Doom
01:14.54DuTempetenot that spell
01:14.56DuTempeteCripple
01:15.02DuTempetedo a wowhead search for it
01:17.18Zurrjust a bunch of uncategorized ones
01:19.19DuTempeteexactly
01:22.44DuTempeteFriendship is rare, do ya know what I'm sayin' do ya? Friendship is rare.
01:22.55DuTempeteMy derriere, when you find out later that they don't really care.
01:36.03DuTempeteHail Satan!
01:36.14DuTempeteDamn, where's Voluspa? =P
01:39.56Kirkburn><
01:45.19DuTempeteYou love it, Kirk. =P
02:02.51DuTempeteHrmm... http://www.wowwiki.com/Demonic_Frenzy
02:03.07DuTempeteDoes there really need to be a separate article for the creature ability?
02:11.32Zurrif a mob has it, it should be in the mob's article.
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02:15.53DuTempeteThat's what I would think... but the article just says "demons"
02:16.06DuTempeteoh nm, it names mobs
02:16.23DuTempetetomorrow I'll fix it
02:16.29DuTempeteI'm going to bed :)
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03:52.14JiyambiAwww I missed DuTempete singin Tenacious D
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05:03.43Chapman_Greetings!  I am looking for Laurly.
05:04.05ZurrLaurly isn't on right now
05:05.21Chapman_I don't suppose you have any idea how to unmark a quest page from laurlybot, do you?
05:05.42Chapman_It is empty, and I would like to create it, but I don't want it overwritten by the bot.
05:05.53Zurredit the page
05:06.15Zurrit should be pretty obvious when you look at it.
05:07.46Chapman_And just remove the "{{:User:Laurlybot/Doquests}}".  Yes, it is quite obvious now.  I can't believe I went through all this trouble to learn what an IRC chat is and install it.
05:07.46Chapman_I'm so stoopid.
05:08.09Chapman_Thanks!
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05:19.06Sky2042oh shit, tides of darkness is almost out
05:21.51Chapman_Can anyone point me to how to report a boilerplate that isn't working?
05:22.18Zurrwhat boilerplate isn't working?
05:22.21Chapman_{{subst: :Help:Quest articles/Preload}}
05:22.22[NewsBot]Chapman_ meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:subst:_:Help:Quest_articles/Preload
05:22.58Zurrwhats wrong with it?
05:23.19Chapman_I pasted "{{subst: :Help:Quest articles/Preload}}" into a page, saved it, hit "Edit", and the page is totally blank.
05:24.11Chapman_Did I do it wrong?  That's how I interpreted the instructions.
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05:28.59Zurrok, fixed it. someone put onlyinclude tags in there...
05:29.21Zurrand they were not inside nowiki tags
05:29.42Zurrerr. maybe not...
05:29.55Chapman_hehe
05:30.08Zurri'll do something to fix it.
05:34.12Zurrok, it works now
05:34.31[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Mace spec nerf and PvP class balance - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=719.0
05:36.58Chapman_So the string is right, but the code behind was bad?
05:37.26Chapman_Oh, wow, there's a whole page there now.
05:37.30Chapman_That makes more sense.
05:39.02Zurryour {{Subst: yada yada}} thing works, but theres <xyzinclude> tags that will prevent certain things in the page from being copied to a new page correctly
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06:18.31[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Doctors use Corrupted Blood to study real diseases - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/doctors-use-corrupted-blood-to-study-real-diseases/
06:19.56Sky2042_wtf?
06:20.23Zurri dont get it either
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06:23.46Chapman_Okay, sorry, another n00b question.  How do I edit a quest chain?  When I edit the Quest Progression section, it just shows "{{:Quest:Forsaken Aid/Quest_chain}}".
06:24.01Chapman_How do I get to that chain to edit it?
06:24.29Zurrenter Quest:Forsaken Aid/Quest_Chain after WoWWiki.com/
06:24.35Zurrin the url
06:24.40Sky2042_[[Quest:Forsaken Aid/Quest chain]]
06:24.40Chapman_k
06:24.40[NewsBot]Sky2042_ meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Forsaken_Aid/Quest_chain
06:24.42Sky2042_:)
06:32.16Sky2042_having fun zurr? :P
06:33.25Zurrnot really, i blame foxbot and kasobot for messing up the qbegins paramter
06:35.21Sky2042_lollllllllll
06:38.31[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Reader UI of the Week: Justo - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/reader-ui-of-the-week-justo/
06:39.12ThraeNow see, why does NewsBot include the subject before the link if the link already includes the subject?
06:49.20Zurrwiki is lagging!
06:50.16Zurrhow am i supposed to fix all those things now!
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06:55.05Sky2042_ok, did someone break the wiki?
06:55.14Zurri can't get anything from it
06:55.38Sky2042_someone borked the wiki
06:55.41Sky2042_kirkburn!
06:55.53Zurri can ping the site just fine
06:55.54Laurlynot me bots still down
06:56.04Sky2042_matthews wouldn't be bad if you appeared
06:56.26Sky2042_oh, and vlad_ for good measure (if you don't still have server access, ignore)
06:56.35Sky2042_ok, just a hiccup?
06:56.53Laurlyok i dont like the new mirc
06:57.01Sky2042_new mirc
06:57.03Sky2042_?
06:57.10Zurrtheres a few things i'm fixing that got added into Laurlybot requests
06:57.15Laurlydownloaded the new version its ugly
06:57.35Laurlynp zurr im still trying to convince my PC it does infact have a sound card
06:58.14Sky2042_why, exactly, do we need a citation for neltharion's name?
06:58.22Sky2042_or, as it were, deathwing's?
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06:59.28Zurri'm not seeing any citation request on Deathwing's page
06:59.29Sky2042_zurr, you should b able to edit again...
06:59.47Sky2042_no, baggins stuck a {{cite}} next to his name in the infobox... why?
07:00.03Sky2042_his name as the destroyer is pretty standardized.
07:01.50Sky2042_looooool
07:01.52Sky2042_ooops
07:02.50bleeterhah
07:08.08Sky2042_gd
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07:28.31Laurlyany really big nerds awake?
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07:35.15winkillerlol
07:36.08bleeterLaurly: lots, I suspect
07:36.33Laurlywhat exactly is a sm busscontroler and why is it conflicting with my sound card and how do i get it tot stop :)
07:36.52Laurlyand dont sasy find the dam mother board driver cd i cant find it :/
07:37.32bleeteroh, you meant '... awake in here?'... no idea
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07:51.44Teomyrsound cards are evil
07:52.10Laurlyi sware next time i buy hardware i am going to keep all the CDS someplace where i know they are
07:53.00bleeterhave you look at the mobo vendor's website? do they provide downloads? if not, look at the chipset manufacturer's website, as a suggestion.
07:53.15Laurlyyeah and i have installed all the ones it says to ...
07:53.41Laurlyreboot
07:53.44bleeter"SMBus is the System Management Bus defined by Intel in 1995. It is used in personal computers and servers for low-speed system management communications.  An SMBus controller is integrated into most Intel® chipsets."
07:54.12bleetermy guess, your smbus is screwed hence your audio card's failing to initialise, probably not a conflict
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07:55.22bleeterusually, at such a point, I resort to my data backups and re-install Windows, can be too much messing around to sort out a driver issue. But as you've lot your master CDs, I guess you don't have a disk image from your initial install
07:56.52bleeterahhh, the joys of $sudo sensors-detect
07:58.39Teomyrhehe, i should have installled lm-sensors much earlier
07:58.40Sky2042_how the fuck is it already 1am?
07:59.14Teomyrthe only way i noticed that the cpu cooler in my server was failing was by occasional "cpu throttled" messages
07:59.34Teomyrit ran for a week without a working cpu fan
08:01.20bleeterTeomyr: hehe
08:02.01bleeterTeomyr: beats me why it isn't a forced default install on all systems... though, thinking, I guess the detect can be problematic in rare cases
08:02.16Teomyryeah
08:03.18Teomyror just wrong
08:04.00Teomyrright now, it's telling me my -12V currently has a voltage of -6.06V
08:04.08Teomyrthat my BIOS battery is empty
08:04.33Teomyrand that another temperature value is at -48.0°C
08:05.21Teomyroh, and it tries to read temperature values from my DVB-C cards
08:05.27Teomyrweird ^^
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08:08.13bleeteraye, I get weird stuff like that. I guess it's some chip that's there, just not conneted to an actual sensor, or similar. NEver really been mission-critical enough for me to have to work out
08:09.43Teomyrsame for me. it's working fine, even though sensors display 6 alarms ;)
08:10.36Teomyrit has weird settings for minimum values, though. one of my fans is supposed to run with AT LEAST 30681 rpm
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08:14.09Chapman_Hey, guys, yet another n00b question.  I'm updating a page that has no ID in the quest box.  When are ID's necessary, and where do I get the next available one?
08:14.55Teomyrthey are mainly for linking to database sites like wowhead
08:15.55Teomyrusually, you search for the quest on a database site, and once you've found it, the number is in the url
08:16.03Teomyras in http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9010
08:16.59BeverageOverlordSo, quest chains will work without them?
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08:17.43Teomyri'm not sure, but you should specify the ID when possible. which page is it?
08:17.52Laurlywoot sound!!!
08:18.12BeverageOverlordhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Flying_Machine_Airport
08:18.43BeverageOverlordI'm adding a bunch of info to it, but it doesn't have an ID, and I don't know where to get one.
08:19.55TeomyrThe ID is the number of that quest at the database sites
08:20.16Teomyrif you search for "The Flying Machine Airport" at wowhead, you get that page: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1086
08:20.33Teomyrso you have to specify the id = 1086 on the quest page :)
08:20.41Laurlyhmm now we get the bot back up
08:20.44BeverageOverlordAll the database sites use the same ID's for each quest?  Cool.
08:21.09Teomyryes, they are the internal IDs used by the game
08:22.51Sky2042_it wasn't always that way beverage, but now it is
08:22.53Sky2042_heh
08:24.47Laurly10 min to unzip the bot ..... this bots really to big
08:27.39Laurlyi still dont understand why i havent goten any weird msgins "your bot broke this quest" on my user page yet :)
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08:29.00Sky2042_uh oh, it's kaso
08:29.09Sky2042_everyone, run for the hills!
08:29.11Sky2042_~kaso
08:29.17KasoI have no purl entry!
08:29.33Laurlybtw zurr.  the bot understands (Alliance) vs (Horde) and sometimes the (#) ones as well but its not perfect i skip the ones it cant figure out a quest id for and will just generate them manualy
08:30.34Zurrsomeone told me earlier that it didn't understand (Alliance) and (Horde)
08:30.47Laurlyi fixed that.
08:31.20Laurlyif it has prosscessed one quest in a quest chain it should pick up the (#) as well but if not its not going to guess i would rather do those manualy
08:36.05Laurlycrap forgot to back up source safe...
08:36.42Sky2042_loooool
08:46.16Zurrokay, got the obvious bug quest pages fixed.
08:47.02EvilGrin|WorkLaurly: yeah I had to educate it about a CoT quest chain
08:47.23Laurlycot?
08:47.29EvilGrin|WorkCaverns of Time
08:47.52Laurlyok.. dumb bot
08:48.02Laurlybrb regoot 101 updates to visual studio
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08:54.10EvilGrin|WorkLaurly: yeah, this is the one I fixed http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Champion%27s_Pledge
08:54.26EvilGrin|WorkIt had missed the last two quests in the chain, and screwed up the quest reward
08:54.44Laurlywasnt that the quest that was buged in wowhead
08:54.54EvilGrin|WorkNo idea
08:55.07Laurlythink it was that one.
08:55.16EvilGrin|WorkWell I've fixed it
08:55.22Laurlygood job :)
08:55.26EvilGrin|WorkItagged the last two quests for the bot to fix
08:55.53EvilGrin|WorkI still have to fix up http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Champion%27s_Vow manually though
08:55.56Laurlyok im still trying to get it to work im missing a dll in visual studio just got to track down which service pack its in
08:56.18Laurlyi think there will always be a few quests we will have to fix manual bots not perfect
08:58.39EvilGrin|WorkI can understanding about it getting confused about the quest reward
08:58.50EvilGrin|Workthere are 16 rings with the same name after all
08:59.07EvilGrin|Workbut I was a little puzzled it didn't pickup all the Quests in the chain.
08:59.12Laurlyahh yeah i saw that one yesterday decided to leave it and let someone else fix it :)
08:59.27Laurlyim pritty sure thats the one that was buged on wowhead
08:59.32EvilGrin|Workk
09:02.12EvilGrin|WorkLaurly: when your bot looks at quest rewards. Does it use the itemid?
09:02.17Laurlynow where oh where is that dll hiding
09:02.37Laurlyit has the item id yah it use's it to search armory
09:03.22EvilGrin|Workk
09:07.06Laurlyif the data is on the page the bot pritty much has it.  its database is like 75 mb now :/
09:07.34Laurlywoot we have xml dll :)
09:08.20EvilGrin|Work:)
09:08.36Laurlynow to remember how to set up odbc :)
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09:14.01[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Video Game Voters Network: Breaking Up is Hard to Do - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/21/vdeo-game-voters-network-breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/
09:15.29Laurlybots up!
09:17.32EvilGrin|Work:P
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09:25.17Laurlynote to self: Hard coding paths then changeing the dirctory where the program runs is not a good idea.
09:26.19Laurlyits running but i think im going to baby sit it a while make sure theres no issues
09:30.07Laurlyso what do i install next ...
09:30.32Zurrkeyloggers
09:30.40Laurlyeeeekkk!!!! /me runs
09:31.16Laurlyalthough i must say im prowed that i manged to get both the dam bluetooth keyboard to work and the sound card with out requireing a man to come and do it for me.
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09:31.43Laurlyhmm hook up the backup drive and get all my mp3's back.
09:34.16Laurlyhow did you find another 400+ quests??
09:36.29Laurlyhmm need to install mouse software
09:40.33EvilGrin|WorkLaurly: 400 quests?
09:41.12Laurlytheres a lot in the quest cat
09:42.25Laurlyim trying to get NPC working now.  i want to be able to go back and forth. I dont think i can do the 1000 page generation day with NPC's unless i talk to a friend that knows someone from thot wowhead didnt mind me riping from them
09:42.36Laurlybut i dont know how thot is going to feel.
09:43.10EvilGrin|Work"ONOS! TEH BANDWIDTH BILL!!!111" ?
09:43.33Laurlythey could ban me in the fire wall i guess :)
09:43.45EvilGrin|Workmeh, just make your bot click on the page ads :P
09:43.53Laurlyi could rip npc from wowhead but theres something up with there NPC pages with the map it lags to hell and back and slows the bot down.
09:44.05EvilGrin|Workwhat about alla
09:44.12EvilGrin|Workthat's funded by gold farmers :P
09:44.22Laurlyi hate alla and there datas really not much better then thot. wowheads got grate npc data
09:44.28EvilGrin|Workkk
09:44.46EvilGrin|WorkHas wowhead got an xml feed?
09:44.50Laurlyi have been on strike with alla since i played EQ what 6 years ago....
09:45.00EvilGrin|Work:D
09:46.31EvilGrin|WorkAh yes, wowhead does do xml
09:49.04EvilGrin|Workhmm
09:49.09EvilGrin|Workonly for quests and items though
09:49.20Dotted[EvilGrin|Work]: that's funded by gold farmers :P <- it was bought, just like thott
09:49.38EvilGrin|Workand wowhead
09:50.03Dottednah ige was sold at that point :p
09:50.11EvilGrin|Workall owned by Affinity Media now though
09:50.13Laurlyyou found wowhead xml???
09:50.26EvilGrin|WorkLaurly only for items/quests
09:50.32Laurlyi looked everwhere:/
09:50.43Laurlylink plx will gladly redo quest generation to use XML
09:50.51EvilGrin|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=Braided%20Copper%20Ring&xml
09:51.04DottedLaurly add &xml to url
09:51.21EvilGrin|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=Ring%20Of%20Blood&xml
09:51.24Laurlybookmarked will deal with it once i get NPC's up
09:51.38EvilGrin|Workcan't seem to get it to do npcs or mobs though
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09:57.22EvilGrin|Workah works the other way round too
09:57.29EvilGrin|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=20906&xml
09:57.47EvilGrin|Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9962&xml
10:01.51Zurri'm seeing quests the same with or without the &xml
10:05.17Laurlydamit!!! boolean on danish windows apears to atempt to insert falsk insted of false :/
10:07.36Zurrdon't forget to download the 2.2 patch
10:08.01EvilGrin|WorkZurr, hmm your right. Inconsistant. Nice. :(
10:08.47Dottedhttp://www.break.com/index/crime-scene-investigator-busted.html
10:38.35[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Interview with Felicia Day from "The Guild" -
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11:11.48Strykarthey do make up with their pastries
11:12.35EvilGrin|Workand bacon
11:13.20StrykarCanadian bacon FTW
11:14.02[NewsBot]GamePolitics: WoW Outbreak Studied by Pandemic Researchers - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/21/wow-outbreak-studied-by-pandemic-researchers/
11:14.44Laurlywell the bots down until i can figure out how to get it to use the word False for a boolean column insted of falsk :/
11:16.36EvilGrin|Workwhat language?
11:17.58Laurlydanish windows english mysql
11:18.22Laurlyprinting out the varable in the program says its false so im guessing odbc is messing with it somehow
11:21.50EvilGrin|WorkI suspect there is a mixup with charsets and collations somewhere. Which is confusing odbc.
11:22.36Laurlyi agree but i cant even figure out where to look in the manual to figuer out what the problem is.  i have resorted to reading the odbc manual but that doesnt deal with anything about language issues
11:23.43EvilGrin|WorkIt's usually refered to as 'codepage'
11:24.50EvilGrin|Workright, anyway. Lunch time :)
11:24.53EvilGrin|Workbbl
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11:56.11Laurlyprobably be easer just to rewrite this...
12:03.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Refreshing addons - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/breakfast-topic-refreshing-addons/
12:14.01[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Jack Thompson Cleared by Shrink - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/21/jack-thompson-cleared-by-shrink/
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12:36.42pcjfoxbot imo
12:37.15EvilGrin|Work:)
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13:13.54pcjyay laurlybot is working
13:16.05EvilGrin|Work\o/
13:26.14Laurlykinda it still has issues
13:31.27pcjdoes it put NPCs it can't find in the same category
13:31.46Laurlywhat do you mean?
13:31.54pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Laurlybot:Page_errors
13:33.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: BBC: WoW behavior can predict epidemic patterns - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/bbc-wow-behavior-can-predict-epidemic-patterns/
13:33.45Laurlyahh no shes not that far yet with NPC cat generation im still working on it but yeah it will when im done with it.
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13:35.11wshey
13:35.23wswhat's better for a PvP-minded gnomish rogue:
13:35.28wsgnomish engineering or goblin engineering?
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14:03.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Under the loving arms of... - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/around-azeroth-under-the-loving-arms-of/
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14:13.09Voluspa~kiss
14:13.09infobotACTION *smooch*
14:13.37VoluspaAnyone here?
14:14.22Voluspa~spam
14:14.22infobotACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam!
14:21.55Voluspa~Kirkburn
14:21.56infobotAuthor of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management.
14:23.46VoluspaWith the advent of inexpensive PCs this function has been taken over by e-business systems. During the 1980s and 1990s thousands of middle managers were made redundant for this reason.
14:24.00Voluspa~Voluspa
14:24.09Voluspa:(
14:24.25winkillerinfobot, Voluspa is nosy
14:24.25infobotokay, winkiller
14:24.30winkiller~Voluspa
14:24.31infobotfrom memory, voluspa is nosy
14:28.53VoluspaInfobot, Voluspa is curious, not nosy.
14:28.54infobot...but voluspa is already something else...
14:29.12Voluspa~Voluspa
14:29.12infobotyou are, like, nosy
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14:31.02Kainhttp://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22280905-5001028,00.html
14:31.56VoluspaINFOBOT, VOLUSPA DEMANDS YOU TO DO WHATEVER VOLUSPÅ SAYS! OR VOLUSPÅ KILLS KITTY!
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14:34.42foxlitTempting
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14:39.03VoluspaInfobot, don't listen to winkiller
14:39.22Voluspa~Winkiller
14:39.29Voluspa(Muhaha)
14:40.38VoluspaInfobot, winkiller is eating kitty for breakfast
14:40.38infobotokay, Voluspa
14:40.46Voluspa~Winkiller
14:40.47infobotmethinks winkiller is eating kitty for breakfast
14:45.12UclaWhat do you think about my new name?
14:48.42foxlitSo Disney Channel is playing in the distance
14:48.58foxlitAnd they're like "See Stich & LEEEEEEERROOOOOOY!"
14:49.23VoluspaAnd?
14:49.55VoluspaInfobot, Stich & Leeroy is not Leeroy Jenkins.
14:49.56infobotokay, Voluspa
14:51.14Voluspa~Adys
14:51.15infobot:)
14:51.31VoluspaInfobot, Adys is not :)
14:51.32infobot...but adys is already something else...
14:52.29VoluspaInfobot, Ucla has [Kirkburn's Whip]
14:56.06Voluspa~Ucla
15:03.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Fun with WoW Math - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/fun-with-wow-math/
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15:48.41MopukÒðÿì)))
15:49.15Mopukíóóóóóóóóóóóóóó ãäå ðóññêèå????
15:49.19Mopukÿ õî÷ó ïîãîâîðèòü çà Âî ))
15:49.47KirkburnMopuk, ?
15:50.01Mopukíà ÷òî âëèÿåò Ñòåíäæà?
15:50.25Mopukíó âîò è ïîîáùàëèñü ïîõîæå)
15:50.55KirkburnLatin alphabet, cause I sure can't read that
15:51.08Kirkburn(i.e. english)
15:51.53Mopuki'm sorry. i'm speak eng. dont FACK!
15:52.10KirkburnBetter, thanks :)
15:55.33Laurlywhat was that all about?
15:56.54deltroni have no clue
15:57.14deltronI feel like I might need to get vaccinated though
15:58.52Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Arcane_Disturbances/German  german quests?
16:03.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Switcher - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/wow-moviewatch-switcher/
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16:53.02KirkburnApparently Corrupted Blood was talked about on BBC Radio 4 yesterday
16:53.09Adysomg
16:56.36KirkburnA good three minutes spent dicussing it
16:56.54KirkburnQuite likely why we just got an edit on the page, which I'm working on atm
16:58.35KirkburnAha, the related news story - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6951918.stm
16:59.47dreamssi wasent there when corrupted blood thing hapen
16:59.49dreamssbleh
16:59.59KirkburnMe neither
17:00.14KirkburnI think it was more of a US server thing than EU too ... not sure though
17:01.35KirkburnHey! This sounds like some good front page news to me
17:01.46dreamssbs, in wow people would try to infect other people for fun
17:01.59dreamssits not the same as real life
17:02.17KirkburnThe story says as much
17:03.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Schrodinger's Jump - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/schrodingers-jump/
17:03.51dreamssdunno, it seems flawed
17:06.06KirkburnWas CB a curse or disease?
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17:07.17dreamsshttp://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?sp=24328
17:07.43Fisker-lulz
17:08.00Fisker-my downloadmanager was reponsible for an insane ping on my computar
17:08.20dreamsshttp://wowaids.ytmnd.com/ the debuff tooltip is there kirk
17:08.23dreamssno type
17:08.24Fisker-dreamss i infect people with aids for the fun
17:08.38dreamssnm then
17:08.57dreamsslets have sex fisker
17:09.09Fisker-sure
17:14.06KirkburnDunno if the BBC mentioned WoWWiki though, probably not
17:15.31Fisker-wanna have sex?
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17:19.40fa_hmmm
17:25.18KirkburnFisker-, you're slightly scary
17:27.42Fisker-well that's what you get for not giving me voice :/
17:28.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Are Auction Houses coming to Shattrath? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/are-auction-houses-coming-to-shattrath/
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17:39.03DuTempeteMorning!
17:39.15pcjhello :)
17:50.54KirkburnMorning DuTempete
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18:05.49CowboyhatHello?
18:06.09CowboyhatAnyone here+
18:06.10Cowboyhat?
18:08.14BagginswOk I'm not sure what to make of User:Devil Man...
18:08.29Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges
18:08.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: More raid boss strat guides than you can throw a ret pally at - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/more-raid-boss-strat-guides-than-you-can-throw-a-ret-pally-at/
18:10.58DuTempeteOoooh.  Creepy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ
18:11.05Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Devil_Man
18:11.33BagginswOnce will note that he created Demonolatry page as a main page...
18:12.52[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Starcraft and Brood War - Patch 1.15.1 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1630
18:13.27DuTempeteGrrrr...
18:13.43DuTempeteA. He fucked with Demonology, and B. He's a wiki squatter.
18:13.48SkosirisDu!
18:14.29SkosirisDuTempete: Try   Spells > Pet Skills > Warlock
18:14.37DuTempeteOoooooh.
18:15.36DuTempeteBut Sko, there's no infernal or doomguard on that list
18:15.53DuTempeteinfernal = immolation
18:16.17Skosiristhey aren't categorized as actual warlock pets by blizzard :(
18:17.22Teomyrthey're not even pets anyway... just demons that are enslaved by the warlock
18:18.24DuTempeteHowever they are unique, in that the warlock can summon them at any time
18:18.41DuTempeteand that they aren't named the same as other infernals or doomguards.
18:18.51Bagginswya dutempete I think he's just a troll
18:20.19DuTempeteAye, sounds to me like he need a wakeup call.
18:20.23Bagginswbtw kirkburn once we know more about title of the story arc, and later story arcs, the comic page will become a general page for the series, and lack story heading LOL
18:20.49Bagginswput him on the vandal list and I'll block him ;)
18:24.33DuTempetewe don't automatically block users for wikisquatting, do we?
18:24.47DuTempeteShouldn't he just get a warning, first?
18:25.03Teomyrwtf
18:25.27Teomyri'm under attack!
18:25.32DuTempetehehe
18:27.44DuTempeteWhat is the wikisquatter template?
18:28.10winkillerwhat is a wikisquatter?
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18:28.43Sky2042lol @ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6951918.stm
18:29.21DuTempetewinkiller: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Devil_Man/Demonolatry
18:30.09DuTempete[[Wikiwquatting]] also
18:30.09[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Wikiwquatting
18:30.20DuTempete[[Wikisquatting]]
18:30.20[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Wikisquatting
18:32.45winkillerah
18:32.55winkillerusing a wiki as an online notepad?
18:33.04Kirkburnooh, that page needs a bit of work
18:33.12winkillermore than a bit
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18:33.18winkillerneeded some time to get it
18:33.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Kalgan on class balance in 2.2 and 2.3 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/kalgan-on-class-balance-in-2-2-and-2-3/
18:33.35winkiller^but that's exactly why I made my own wiki at wiki.domain.org
18:33.36Sky2042looks not quite in the realm of warcraft...
18:33.41winkillerto have an online notepad :P
18:34.04Bagginswso who wants to help split Dwarf page into a generic dwarf history page for all 3 races, and move ingame dwarves to [[Ironforge dwarves]]
18:34.09KirkburnThere's no template for it (but not really needed tbh)
18:34.16Bagginswwell 4 races now
18:34.23KirkburnHowever, it needs sections, better explanation and more links to wikia :)
18:34.26Bagginswand variosu clans
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18:34.32Sky2042goddamnit, they're nerfing mages again
18:34.42Sky2042wtf is with that?
18:34.42Bagginswlike always :p
18:34.49KirkburnBtw, a random note - {{tocright}} is bad mmkay?
18:35.13Sky2042and bagginsww, ingame dwarves would be moved to dwarves :|
18:35.38Sky2042usually, kirkburn.
18:35.47KirkburnYes :)
18:35.55Sky2042btw, kirkburn, that's also said at ww:mos :P
18:35.59DuTempeteSo, kirkburn, how are we supposed to mark the article as squatting?
18:36.07DuTempeteand why is tocright bad?
18:36.18KirkburnAnyone likely to work on WoWWiki:Wikisquatting? otherwise I'll tag it for cleanup
18:36.26Sky2042oh, nerfing -mace- spec
18:36.27DuTempeteI might
18:36.29Kirkburnmesses with page design, and inconsistent
18:36.30Sky2042not mage spec
18:36.33Sky2042lol
18:36.38KirkburnDuTempete, /hugs!
18:36.44DuTempeteI said might!
18:36.46DuTempetehehe
18:36.49Kirkburn:<
18:36.51DuTempeteYeha, I'll do it ;)
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18:37.15DuTempeteAnything for you, Kirkburn.
18:37.23KirkburnTo mark an article, I'd suggest using something like {{sd|blah with link}}, or talk page link, or on the user's page
18:37.27Sky2042oh jesus, wikisquatting
18:37.32huraxhi
18:37.38DuTempetekks
18:37.40Sky2042what kirkburn?
18:37.42KirkburnToo many templates just makes it harder to maintain :)
18:37.57Kirkburnhurax, lo
18:38.01KirkburnSky2042, sup?
18:38.11Sky2042what do you mean by {{sd|blah with link}}?
18:38.25DuTempete{{sd}} is speedydelete, aye?
18:38.25[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:sd
18:38.38Sky2042yeah, so then, why would we tag a page with {{sd}}?
18:38.44huraxmy body is lying beneath a very large and very angry gronn
18:38.56huraxwonder if he'll hit his head on the cieling
18:39.09KirkburnSky2042, cause wikisquatting is bad?
18:39.21Sky2042oh, that?
18:39.30Sky2042you need to include context :|
18:39.34Kirkburn><
18:39.45Kirkburnhurax, is he getting larger?
18:39.56Sky2042lolgronn
18:40.09Sky2042lol, gotta love watching maurie.
18:40.18Sky2042almost as good as jerry springer
18:41.26Sky2042bagginsww, no.
18:41.38Sky2042no no no no no
18:43.06Kirkburnwoah one assumes dwarves is being worked on?
18:43.27Sky2042one would be correct...
18:43.32KirkburnPhew
18:43.43KirkburnI agree with the IF split though
18:44.02Sky2042i don't :|. people looking for dwarves are going to be looking for the WoW dwarves... sigh.
18:44.23KirkburnLook at trolls?
18:44.45Sky2042uh, bagginsww did that?
18:44.56huraxyes, but he did not kill himself on the seiling, unfortunately
18:45.00Sky2042or not...
18:45.02Sky2042hmm
18:45.02huraxwell, second try now
18:45.23DuTempeteKirkburn, what are the consequences for wikisquatting?
18:45.32Sky2042he did do it kirburn
18:45.34Sky2042:(
18:45.43KirkburnDuTempete, if it wasn't malicious, nothing :P
18:45.48KirkburnSky2042, I agreed with it though
18:45.56DuTempeteand if it continues?
18:46.03KirkburnTrolls especially is an AWFUL thing to be talking about the darkspear on
18:46.15KirkburnThey're such a minor part of trolls in general
18:47.23Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Troll#Racenames
18:47.37KirkburnDuTempete, well then a suspension (but not infinite)
18:48.04DuTempetekks
18:48.18Sky2042a lot of wikisquatting done in our case is a troll copy and pasting.
18:48.27Sky2042that was probably word for word what wikipedia has
18:49.19KirkburnWhilst we're on the subject Sky2042 / Bagginsw - humans probably could have the same treatment
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18:49.29Sky2042uh... why?
18:49.32KirkburnStormwind
18:49.39DuTempeteI tossed the guy a link on his takl page, too
18:49.43Sky2042they're all humans?
18:49.47Sky2042lol
18:49.49Bagginswstormwind humans?
18:49.51KirkburnNot all humans are Stormwind humans
18:49.58KirkburnAnd we only play SW ones
18:50.00Sky2042pretty much :|
18:50.06Bagginswwell humans aren't so racially or tribably split
18:50.26Bagginswtechnically we play northshire humans I think ;)
18:50.36Kirkburnbleh
18:51.03DuTempeteOh, guys...
18:51.04KirkburnI just think if the playable humans were off the page, the information on the other humans (ex) factions could be expanded somewhat
18:51.08DuTempete{{violation}} DUH
18:51.08[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:violation
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18:51.38Kirkburnomg, ooold :)
18:51.45DuTempeteallthough, honestly, anything he puts on there is not worth having an article for
18:51.49KirkburnI need to get back to non-wowwiki work
18:51.50DuTempeteso sd still makes sense.
18:51.56DuTempetenooooooo
18:52.02Bagginswkirkburn that's a good idea
18:52.10Kirkburn(I didn't say I was leaving!)
18:52.26Sky2042_uh, what did i miss in my moments of having disappeared.
18:52.30Kirkburn|afkGroup hug!
18:52.50Kirkburn|afkSky2042, well I said "I just think if the playable humans were off the page, the information on the other humans (ex) factions could be expanded somewhat"
18:52.50Bagginswalthough it might actually work better to say Humans (WoW)
18:52.55Bagginswfor that page
18:53.05Kirkburn|afkWhy?
18:53.13Fisker-btw wtf Bibi
18:53.19Fisker-why are people reporting posts as whineposts?
18:53.20Fisker-seriously
18:53.30Bagginswwell lore wise in the RPG which are supposed to mirrot he WoW setup, the humans come from various places
18:53.33Kirkburn|afkGilneas, Dalaran, etc are still inexistence as (non-playable) human factions
18:53.38DuTempeteoh noes... what are you whining about now, bibi?
18:53.47Kirkburn|afkBagginsw, really?
18:53.48Bagginswthey aren't just "stormwind"
18:53.49Bagginswya
18:53.58BibiFisker- : I'm wondering if I should ban the guy.
18:54.05BibiHe keeps reporting thing that nobody cares about
18:54.13Kirkburn|afkOfficial site says Stormwind
18:54.14Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/humans.html
18:54.18DuTempetewell, originally it was lordaeron, wasn't it?
18:54.20Bagginswalthough Gilneas and Dalaran probably aren't source of those humans
18:54.21Fisker-heh Bibi :P
18:54.35Kirkburn|afkI'm inclindes to believe, since we start in Northshire, we're all SW subjects
18:54.37Bagginswwell if the manual says stormwind too
18:54.46Bagginswstormwind it is
18:54.48Kirkburn|afk*inclined
18:54.56Bagginswrpg is just a bit more open I guess
18:55.03Kirkburn|afkEven if we come from afar, the game treats us as such :P
18:55.09BagginswRPG includes theramore players too btw
18:55.12Sky2042_wait, ok, here's a question: how are the SW humans diff then those living in Lordaeron (the continent)?
18:55.21Kirkburn|afkA few thousand miles?
18:55.21Bibihe's really gonna get a ban.
18:55.32Bagginswits cultural thing really
18:55.47Bagginswthey are the same species of course
18:56.00Kirkburn|afkHow are Australians different to Americans, say :)
18:56.02DuTempeteI'm confused, I thought SW came after lordaeron fell... am I wrong?
18:56.09DuTempetelol Kirk
18:56.12DuTempeteautralians?
18:56.16DuTempetesp
18:56.20Bagginswnah its old Stormwind it was rebuilt in WC2
18:56.24Sky2042_would you rather date someone who is broke and beautiful or rich and ugly?
18:56.26Bagginsw"New Stormwind" technically
18:56.34DuTempetemore like how australians are different from new zealanders
18:56.42Sky2042_no
18:57.08Bagginswthough you find out that alot of citizens of Stormwind came from the north
18:57.20DuTempeteaccording to wow anyway, they all have the same accent, same general culture, anyway
18:57.22Bagginswquest lines and stuff
18:57.23Kirkburn|afkAs for draenei, gnomes, NEs, BEs, Forsaken, orcs and tauren?
18:57.37Sky2042_more like how the japanese are different from the chinese, dutempete
18:58.02Bagginswwell Blood elves can be split to Quel'thalas blood elves
18:58.06DuTempeteuh, they ahve two different languages, and the japanese and chinese cultural/historical beliefs are in *contention* with each other.
18:58.10Bagginswwhile they are technically tehs ame
18:58.19Bagginswit would allow the main blood elf page to cover all info
18:58.21DuTempeteno, the dragons came from the east!
18:58.22Sky2042_exactly, dutempete :P
18:58.26DuTempeteno the dragons came from the west!
18:58.26Bagginswand not be just playable centric
18:58.42Bagginswdepends ont ehd ragon type
18:58.49Bagginswgreens coem from emerald dream
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18:58.56DuTempeteI don't care if the dragons came from your butthole...
18:59.15DuTempeteand bagginsww, that was a total breach of reality there =P
18:59.33DuTempetegame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real life
18:59.34Bagginswhuh I thought you were talking about wow
18:59.38DuTempetelol
18:59.47DuTempeteno, hehe
19:00.10DuTempetethe chinese religion states that the dragons came from the west, and headed east
19:00.17DuTempetethe japanese religions state the opposite
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19:01.09DuTempeteThere is also a difference in the number of talons that denote hierarchy =P
19:01.26Sky2042_oh jesus dutempete.
19:01.35DuTempetejesus had nothing to do with it
19:01.50Sky2042_lol?
19:02.03DuTempeteit's called "I'm better than you!"
19:02.04BagginswJesus, Buddha, and Allah
19:02.20DuTempeteBuddha moreso... but neither Jesus, nor Allah
19:02.31DuTempeteBuddha is not a deity
19:02.36Kirkburn|afk*cough*
19:02.38DuTempetelike Mohammed is not a deity
19:04.57DuTempeteIs the change of climate getting to you, sugar?
19:05.06Kirkburn|afk><
19:05.22DuTempeteJust think; when you get home, everything is going to seem very grey to you.
19:05.23Kirkburn|afkI love how no one commented that the gnome on [[Gnome]] was a dragon >_>
19:05.36Sky2042_dutempete's got some sass this morning. not get enough coffee, girl?
19:05.57DuTempeteI've always got some sass Sky2042_, where the hell have you been?
19:06.12Sky2042_this is unusually more.
19:06.16DuTempeteNah.
19:06.20Sky2042_yah
19:06.24DuTempetenuh uh
19:06.26Kirkburn|afkEr Bagginsw .... dwarf
19:06.35Kirkburn|afkAre you working on it?
19:07.09Kirkburn|afkAll the lore, regardingless of whether appropriate, is now on the IF dwarf page
19:08.01Bagginswhmm did I type something other than dwarf?
19:08.16Kirkburn|afkI'm going to make a few edit, two secs
19:10.26Bagginswsure I'm pretty sure there are parts of dwarf that should be in Ironforge article, and vice versa :p
19:11.09Kirkburn|afkI moved the lore back to dwarf
19:11.13Kirkburn|afkAlso done some cats
19:11.25Kirkburn|afkSince you started the work, I'm hoping you can continue it?
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19:12.18Bagginswwell I don't know about finishing it but I plan to add a few more things
19:12.26Kirkburn|afkCoolio
19:12.37Bagginswbtw the heading you removed was from the manual for ironforge dwarves
19:12.52[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II - Hybrids Race on Expansion ? - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1632
19:12.52[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Were you at GenCon or Leipzig? - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1631
19:12.52Kirkburn|afkSo? It's still the overall history, and barely IF specific
19:12.56BagginswThe stoic dwarves of Ironforge are an ancient race of robust humanoids who live beneath the snow-capped mountains of Khaz Modan. The dwarves have always been fast allies to the humans and they revel in the prospects of battle and storytelling alike.
19:13.12Bagginswthat belogns in ironforge dwarves page :p
19:13.23Bagginswbtw we still need to add in Iron dwarves heh
19:13.55Kirkburn|afkYes, then add the IF stuff to the IF page, don't move everything
19:14.16Bagginswhistory section has history for all 3 I konw
19:15.27Bagginswits funny in rpg you are limited to playing "Bronzebeard dwarves"
19:15.48Bagginswat least in the lore discription
19:15.55BagginswI mean a player can do whatever
19:16.54huraxouch
19:17.32Kirkburn|afkBagginsw, ach - http://www.wowwiki.com/Bronzebeard_Clan
19:18.04Bagginswthat's the clan page yes
19:18.06Sky2042looooooooooooooooooool
19:18.24Bagginswthere is also Ironforge Clan
19:18.36Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_Clan
19:18.44Kirkburn|afkYes, but we aren't that
19:18.47Bagginswthe two are interchangeable somewhat
19:18.52Kirkburn|afkWe're the Bronzebeard Clan
19:19.40BagginswWell WoW itself isn't that specific actually
19:19.48Kirkburn|afkMy thought is merge the IF dwarf and BB clan pages
19:19.49Bagginswit just says "Ironforge dwarves" as far as  I know
19:20.01Kirkburn|afkWell, that's much the same thing
19:20.06Bagginswnot really
19:20.12Kirkburn|afkWe certainly aren't Wildhammer, nor Dark Iron
19:20.15BagginswIronforge dwarves are made up of alot of subclans
19:20.30Kirkburn|afkHmm, fair enough
19:20.40huraxis ironforge all bronzebeard? i thought some other clans too
19:20.42Bagginswactually almost every last name is supposed to be a clan
19:20.54Bagginswhurax its made up of alot of clans
19:21.01Kirkburn|afk"The nobility of the Ironforge dwarves are born from the Bronzebeard clan", nvm me :P
19:21.12Bagginswya LOL
19:21.23Bagginswthough not all bronzebeard are nobility of course
19:21.43Bagginswwe know of at least 3 ironforge clans
19:21.55BagginswIronforge, Bronzebeard, and Stonefist
19:22.02Bagginswthose 3 have been named specifically
19:22.09BagginswStormpike is questionable
19:22.20Bagginswhard to tell if its an Ironforge clan, or related to hill dwarves
19:23.58Bagginswbut in naming conventions its rumored that most major surnames is probably referring to a clan
19:24.18Kirkburn|afkRight, I really, really have to stop myself editing the wiki now
19:26.29Bagginswlol
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19:35.38BagginswI'm working on ironforge article now
19:37.42Bellygrubcool
19:38.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: More info on the Warcraft comic - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/more-info-on-the-warcraft-comic/
19:39.26Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_dwarf
19:40.27BagginswFemale dwarves also have sturdy muscular frames, but they are buxom and lack facial hair, despite the claims of some of the less educated sages of other races.
19:40.28BagginswLOL
19:40.46Bellygrublike litte demons
19:40.48Bellygrublol
19:41.06Bagginswalthough there are rare bearded dwarves.
19:41.13Bagginswmostly among hill dwarves apparentlyt hough
19:44.21huraxin another morpg we had a quest
19:44.32Bagginswya?
19:44.39huraxto rescue a dwarfen princess from her prison
19:44.55huraxone step was to bring her her hair needle for her beard
19:45.18BagginswLOL
19:45.43BagginswThere was a bearded female dwarf in Puzzle Quest.
19:45.51Bagginswhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Graun_Blump
19:46.12DuTempeteKirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Wikisquatting&action=submit
19:46.20DuTempeteerr Kirkburn|afk
19:50.08DuTempeteI didn't think the example there really fit the situation, so I made up a new one.
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19:53.54DuTempeteI'm going to go look at Wikia, to see what else is needed
19:54.36Guest60123new builds
19:54.40Guest60123rogue
19:54.42Guest60123pally
19:54.54Sky2042http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Passive_smoking
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20:05.21DuTempeteKirkburn|afk I'm not finding anything applicable to the issue at Wikia.. suggestions?
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20:09.35DroffatsSometimes it's "The Mechanar" and sometimes it's just "Mechanar". Which is it?
20:11.47DroffatsSeems it's mostly "The Mechanar". Including the official site.
20:16.42pcjthe TK instances are actually dimensional ships
20:16.51pcjso The Mechanar is correct
20:17.10pcjafaik
20:17.30DroffatsThe other TK instances had their "The" removed and linked to the naming policy as a reason.
20:18.04DroffatsWhat do we have against "the"s?
20:18.30pcj[[WW:NAME#Other Articles]
20:18.34pcj[[WW:NAME#Other Articles]]
20:18.34[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:NAME#Other_Articles
20:19.20Sky2042droffats: either everything as a the, or nothing has a the.
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20:22.48DuTempeteThe closest thing on Wikipedia I can find is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting
20:23.45SandwichmanAFKWHAT IT IS MY PEOPLES!
20:24.10Sandwichman2448I'm not AFK. >:(
20:26.55DroffatsWell you are a little bit.
20:28.07DuTempeteKirkburn|afk: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Wikisquatting&action=submit
20:28.10DuTempeteHow is that?
20:31.11pcjDid you submit it or just preview?
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20:34.50DuTempeteI haven't submitted it yet, pcj
20:35.02pcjthen how is kirkburn gonna see it :P
20:36.14Sky2042_btw, in case you missed it dutempete, have a look at [[WW:BOLD]]. :P
20:37.17DuTempeteThere: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete/sandbox3
20:37.55pcjheh the breadcrumb messes up in the User namespace
20:38.28Sandwichman2448Bold|vandalism
20:39.06Sky2042_pcj: my guess is that the template is using {{PAGENAME}}, rather than an {{#if}} with {{NAMESPACE}}.
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20:39.16Sky2042_and {{PAGENAME}}
20:39.39pcjNo, the call to the template just includes the pages, but the template appends {{NAMESPACE}}
20:40.24DuTempeteIt's a policy, sky2042_ , I'm trying to be a bit more delicate about it =P
20:40.37Sky2042_bah
20:40.40DuTempeteAnd since Kirkburn|afk called for the cleanup, I'm sure he has some ideas about it.
20:40.43Sky2042_i poke and prod on policies all the time.
20:40.45Sky2042_:P
20:41.05DuTempetefine, fine.
20:41.26Sky2042_pcj: seriously?
20:41.28Sky2042_hmmm
20:41.30pcjyah srsly
20:41.39Sandwichman2448lrn 2 speelg
20:41.55Fisker-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
20:41.58Fisker-I HAS A BIOSHOCKJ
20:42.04Fisker-but Steam downloading @ 30kB/s
20:43.07Sandwichman2448That game is out?
20:43.15pcjNo, he hacked steam
20:43.45Sandwichman2448Steam power is also known as external combustion.
20:44.06DuTempeteuh huh...
20:44.49Sandwichman2448Sorry...
20:45.21DuTempeteweirdo ;)
20:45.22Sky2042_that was almost good...
20:45.27DuTempetehehe
20:47.13Sky2042_http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20040825.html
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20:48.12Sandwichman2448That is funny.
20:48.41Sky2042_dutempete: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_webspace_provider.2C_social_networking.2C_or_memorial_site
20:48.54Sky2042_:)
20:50.02DuTempeteWikipedia isn't a dating service?!
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20:50.16winkillerlol sky
20:50.29DuTempeteNah, that's not a definition, so it's not worth linking to the page.
20:50.54Sky2042_oh, that was the purpose of your hunt?
20:50.57Laurlyhmm 6fps in wow think i need a new gfx card driver
20:51.00DuTempeteI wish Kirkburn|afk would respond, so I can continue with the rest of my life...
20:51.17Sky2042_dutempete, srsly, go on with your life. your link is safe with us.
20:51.52DuTempeteNo!  My life cannot go on without Kirkburn
20:51.55DuTempete!
20:52.16DuTempetestupid pipe button shouldn't be next to the enter or delete button...
20:52.34Sky2042_you could list it at the bottom as an == External link ==
20:52.50DuTempetewhat good would it do the page?
20:52.50Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Undead_Ravager
20:53.09Sky2042_points out that we're not the first to think of it.
20:53.17Sky2042_and that it's policy elsewhere :p
20:53.21DuTempetemeh
20:53.35DuTempeteWhy should be defend our own policies?
20:53.45DuTempeteother than explaining why we look down on it?
20:53.47Sky2042_we aren't.
20:53.54Sky2042_that's why it's an external link
20:53.59DuTempetethat sounds like an xplaination to me.
20:54.08DuTempeteerr defense
20:54.13DuTempetewhatever
20:54.14Sky2042_huh?
20:54.48Sandwichman2448DEFENCE!
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20:54.53DuTempeteI don't think it would improve on the content ;)
20:54.56DuTempetedefense!
20:55.20Kirkburn|afkDuTempete!
20:55.34Sky2042_sure it does. look at the link i found there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_farms
20:55.41Kirkburn|afkeep? :(
20:55.44Sky2042_which is certainly better than our pathetic set of links
20:55.49Sandwichman2448That is both pitiful and touching.
20:56.04winkilleroops, bit late
20:56.11winkillerhe doesn't even ignore you anymore :P
20:56.25DuTempetepsh, a lily?
20:56.31DuTempetewhat color?
20:56.47Dottedshit brown
20:56.54Fisker-Dotted
20:56.55Fisker-you suck
20:56.57DuTempetehehe
20:57.00Dottedyeh
20:57.34DuTempeteA lily might be ok, if it's the right color.
20:57.50DuTempeteA tulip?  I grow tulips in my garden...
20:58.07DuTempeteYou suck at this, Kirkburn|afk.
20:58.07Sandwichman2448Can't resist poking...
20:58.41Kirkburn|afkargh
20:58.58Sky2042_rose you idiot, rose!
20:59.10Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, I have no idea what I should be looking at
20:59.22DuTempete[[User:Dutempete/sandbox3]]
20:59.23[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dutempete/sandbox3
20:59.33Sky2042_FAIL
20:59.45Sky2042_[[User:DuTempete/Sandbox3]]
20:59.45[NewsBot]Sky2042_ meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete/Sandbox3
20:59.51DuTempetelol
21:00.01Sky2042_ho shit
21:00.08DuTempeteslowsky!
21:00.45Sky2042_pcj: don't blank content when you're adding {{sd}}
21:00.59DuTempeteblank content?
21:02.08Sky2042_ok, pcj, just about none of that needed to be tagged {{sd}} :|
21:02.16pcjall of it did
21:02.23DuTempetewhat article?
21:02.53Sky2042_dutempete: read recentchanges
21:03.08DuTempeteand if someone is arguing with you about it, you should put {{delete}} on it instead...
21:03.32pcjthose articles weren't linked to by anything
21:04.33Sky2042_http://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate:Talent_Tree/Separate_Tables/Cell_Border looks like it is linked
21:04.41Sky2042_gaspshockomgwtfusk?
21:04.44Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, nice
21:05.04pcjBy a talk page
21:05.05DuTempeteI couldn't find anything but that cybersquatting article to use as a reference...
21:05.54pcjSky, don't undo
21:06.01DuTempeteand I thought that example didn't really fit, so I made up a new one
21:06.01pcjFollow policy plz
21:06.40Sky2042_follow policy?
21:06.42Sky2042_where?
21:06.46Sky2042_:)
21:07.02DuTempeteSo, Kirkburn|afk, you gonna fix that flower issue?!
21:07.12Kirkburn|afkomg branding - http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete/sandbox3#Wikifarms
21:07.14Sky2042_what policy, pcj
21:07.15pcj[[WW:SD#If a page is incorrectly flagged]]
21:07.15[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:SD#If_a_page_is_incorrectly_flagged
21:08.02Sky2042_you want me to do that? i can go through the pages and do that if you need.
21:08.03Kirkburn|afkIn any case, don't blank articles
21:08.03pcjYeah, ok
21:08.05Kirkburn|afkIt just makes admin's jobs harder
21:09.06Kirkburn|afkBut fair enough to the articles
21:09.14Kirkburn|afkThat's wow.com news, not ours :P
21:09.37Sky2042_oh jesus pcj
21:09.37Kirkburn|afkBut discussing it first helps
21:09.46Sky2042_{{delete}}. not {{sd}}
21:09.46[NewsBot]Sky2042_ meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:delete}}._not_Template:sd
21:09.53Sky2042_LOL
21:09.55Kirkburn|afkhaha
21:09.57Sky2042_newsbot ftw
21:10.00Sky2042_dotted, you suck
21:10.23Kirkburn|afkIt must just look for the first and last curly brackets
21:10.27Dottednot my code :p
21:10.42Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, if you want to switch them, go right ahead :)
21:10.52Dotted!help
21:10.53pcji've yet to see a reasonable defense of the boilerplate page
21:11.35Sky2042_because it's a good looking project
21:11.51DuTempeteswitch what Kirkburn|afk?
21:11.52Sky2042_hell, i could go through all the talent pages and add the content found there
21:11.57Sky2042_at the boilerplate
21:12.12pcjWell, for starters we're not using the Boilerplate namespace anymore
21:12.17Sky2042_ok
21:12.18Sky2042_so move them
21:12.23pcjSecondly, the only thing that does link to it is a talk page on a sandbox
21:12.25pcjfrom 2006
21:12.27DuTempeteI'm gonna go take care of some dog stuff, and then I'll put site logos on that page.
21:12.35Sky2042_which shows the example. the 2006 is from december
21:12.41Sky2042_not /that/ long ago
21:12.47pcj9 months is a long time imo
21:12.56pcjespecially on the internet
21:12.59Sky2042_longer than you've been around
21:13.05Sky2042_:P
21:13.08winkillerlol
21:13.10pcjExactly
21:13.33Sky2042_i'd actually call it rather short in regard to the wiki
21:14.00pcjWell, if you're planning to use it, you might save it for yourself, but no one's using it
21:14.23DottedKirkburn|afk slap the server admins i wanna know if my RC bot is working :p
21:17.09Sky2042_also, pcj, what you're having deleted has the discussion regarding it. i don't want to have that info archived on a page of mine...
21:17.36pcj...what
21:23.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Turn crossrealm BGs back off? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/turn-crossrealm-bgs-back-off/
21:24.52Kirkburn|afkAFKDuTempete, nvm, I didn't see you already swap to the new Wikisquatting
21:25.07Kirkburn|afkDotted, they seem busy atm
21:25.28*** join/#wowwiki Sandwichman (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
21:28.22SandwichmanShould I wright another fan fiction? The wiki is flooded with them and many want them purged from the site. My last one ran out of 'plot juice' quickly.
21:29.26Sky2042_feel free to.
21:30.40SandwichmanCan I borrow a cup of coherent plot please?
21:30.56Sky2042_hmm...
21:31.06Sky2042_orc befriends a human
21:31.12Sky2042_go through various crises
21:31.19Sky2042_feel free to expand :P
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21:31.47SandwichmanOh, I have a plot. I just forget it halfway through.
21:32.15SandwichmanThank you much, though.
21:32.56Sky2042_welcome
21:33.05SandwichmanI would link my last one to show the problem but I was banned from that.
21:33.15*** join/#wowwiki Lysistrata (n=yousuck@unaffiliated/lysistrata)
21:37.12SandwichmanOk, before I wright it here is the basic plot (Don't steal it) I got the idea from RotH and the WoW univerce physics page.
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21:39.32SandwichmanThe Draenei tell the orcs about the legion and team up. Gul'dan and Medivh are still evil and make the portal. The twist is the Demons corrupt the human nations into a bloodthirsty horde and sends THEM to kill the draenei.
21:39.51SandwichmanBackwards reality.
21:40.15Sky2042_loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
21:40.21Sky2042_yes
21:40.31Sandwichman:)
21:41.33Bagginswso ya its dfeinitely stormwind humans in WoW manual
21:43.59Kirkburn|afkwoot
21:44.33BagginswOnly the RPG made it more humans in general
21:44.40Bagginswwhich is no big deal
21:44.48Bagginswbut it would definitely make it easier to split the two
21:45.05Bagginswso human article can be expanded
21:49.38SandwichmanHow backwards should it be? RotH era or ancient times. Though if the titans were evil and sargeras was good the Draenei would not exist... Old gods bakeing cookies?
21:49.54Sky2042_cookies!
21:49.59Sky2042_i like cookies
21:50.16SandwichmanI will put in cookies.
21:52.21DottedAnd then the Draenei and the Orcs ate cookies...
21:52.24SandwichmanWhy would the legion annex those who kill their boss? This is harder than I thought.
21:52.34Dotteddoesnt quite catch im afraid
21:53.20Sandwichmaneh
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21:56.54SandwichmanMore modern times eliminates some issues... I'll just say medivh decided to use the humans anyway. Add to the realism. Who ever heard of a blizz thing WITHOUT recons?
21:57.03pcj*gasp* http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Usertable/row&curid=24297&diff=834982&oldid=732023&rcid=752184
21:57.34Kirkburn|afkSay we had several beta keys for Warhammer Online ... what kind of competition do you think we could run?
21:57.41pcjMud-wrestling!
21:57.50Kirkburn|afkApart from that ...
21:57.59pcjVirtual mud-wrestling!
21:58.02Kirkburn|afke.g. number of edits, numbers of individual articles edited?
21:58.12pcjNah, quality over quantity imo
21:58.17pcj(as my edits show)
21:58.35Kirkburn|afkHow would you meansure that though?
21:58.36DottedKirkburn|afk just give me them =)
21:58.41pcjProbably a minimum number to qualify at least
21:59.09Dottedi want a warhammer key DAMNIT
21:59.50Kirkburn|afkSky2042_, why?
21:59.56SandwichmanIf the warcraft/warhammer origen is true, warhammer is heresy.
21:59.57Sky2042_i'm 17
22:00.07Sky2042_last two required 18, why wouldn't this?
22:00.17Sky2042_;(
22:01.32DottedKirkburn|afk can europeans participate?
22:01.43Sky2042_that oo
22:01.45Sky2042_too
22:02.04Kirkburn|afkDotted, will be checking
22:02.41Kirkburn|afkWhy would beta keys need age/location requirements? :)
22:02.58pcjWell, WoW US keys would only work with US localization for instance
22:03.06Dottedexactly
22:03.16Kirkburn|afkDidn't stop EU players participating though
22:03.20Dottedage, well laws for instance
22:03.43Kirkburn|afkTiny competition, who cares for laws
22:03.50Dottedah right
22:03.51SandwichmanWoo
22:04.02Kirkburn|afkAnyway, it's being worked on atm :)
22:04.05pcjyeah anarchy ftw
22:04.55Sky2042_kirkburn|afk: "tiny competition, who cares for laws" uh... you wanna ask your boss at wikia about that?... >.>
22:05.48Kirkburn|afkhehe
22:05.54pcjGod, always the spoilsport
22:05.59Sky2042_you betcha
22:06.01Kirkburn|afkShe running it, so it's her judgement :)
22:06.25Kirkburn|afkGod, always striking people down. Bastard.
22:06.43Sandwichman>:(
22:07.16Kirkburn|afkSeriously though, http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people
22:07.26Bagginswok got stormwind human page up and some modifications to the regular human page
22:07.51SandwichmanSo what I have wrote so far the Alliance starts to form when Ogrim and Durotan go to Telmor and meet Velen. The twist here is he is not an arrogent ass.
22:12.11SandwichmanOnan (Er’s brother and apparent inventor on onanism). Crime - “spilling his seed”. Method of execution - not specified. Gen.38:10. (unlucky family) Hate to turn this into a jihad, but he died because of where he did /not/ put it (Giving his late brother's wife a child), not where he did (Wanking on the ground).
22:12.59Sandwichman*...where he did /not/ put it (Not giving his late brother's wife a child)
22:13.04SandwichmanI ment.
22:13.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Entering the raiding scene (or) How the Elune realm hates me - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/entering-the-raiding-scene-or-how-the-elune-realm-hates-me/
22:13.58Kirkburn|afkSandwichman, lovely
22:14.59Kirkburn|afkMight be something to post on the discussion page?
22:15.10SandwichmanWhat?
22:15.54Kirkburn|afkTo discuss correcting the reason?
22:16.16SandwichmanOh. Ok
22:19.23dreamsslame i just got banned out of a wow channel
22:19.24dreamssheh
22:20.02Kirkburn|afk><
22:20.03dreamssdeltron u there :P
22:20.22dreamss15:11] <loonatik> [16:46] <dreamss> #bioshock demo out?
22:20.22dreamss[15:11] <loonatik> [16:46] <dreamss> why would i need a demo of an irc channel
22:20.22dreamss[15:11] <loonatik> that is being a rude prick
22:20.32dreamssaparently irc jokes are bad taste
22:22.49foxlitPiping hot from the WoW forums comes the tale of an interesting experiment: Psychosheep, a troll warrior on Anvilmar, decided to jump off of the Aldor rise with 15 seconds left before server reset. Best comment comes about half way down the thread, in my opinion: Renault, a BE Pally from Suncrown, says " ...mein Gott. It's Schrodinger's Jump. Considering we do not know the state of existence until you log back on, your char is both simul
22:23.02pcjit's shorter than a 15 sec drop imo
22:23.19foxlitThe cat metaphor is being bloody abused
22:24.07Sandwichmanhttp://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people#Onan
22:24.12SandwichmanThat good?
22:25.28SandwichmanI do not get it? is it a ref to Fenchurch from THGttG?
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22:26.36Kirkburn|afkSandwichman, sign it, even if it's just an IP! :P
22:26.45SandwichmanI'm scared.
22:26.54Sandwichman~~~~/
22:26.55Kirkburn|afkThey're fun people :)
22:26.57SandwichmanOk
22:27.34Kirkburn|afkBagginsw, 1) identify, 2) what do you think the prospects are for a blood elf split?
22:27.52SandwichmanSplit? Kael's and silvermoon?
22:27.56Kirkburn|afkaye
22:28.13SandwichmanThey are two very different groups.
22:28.37Kirkburn|afkOnly once you reach Outland though :P
22:28.38Sky2042_true, but we play Kael's elves, just as much as we play Silvermoon's.
22:29.08Sandwichmanthey why do you kill them?
22:29.13SandwichmanThen
22:30.45Sandwichman?
22:32.06SandwichmanEh. Bye. I am loggin orf!
22:32.11*** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
22:32.20Sky2042_afkwork, bbl
22:32.36*** join/#wowwiki Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@64.193.93.197)
22:34.53foxlitI don't see a real problem
22:35.09foxlitEvery race in the game has a lot of opportunities to kill members of itself
22:35.22foxlit"Kael is bad, mmkay? Now go murder him!"
22:37.32Sky2042_afkcoughdefiascough
22:37.49foxlitdark iron dwarves
22:38.01foxlitGnomegan gnomes
22:38.14foxlitNight Elves are a bit more difficult
22:38.22Kaydeethreeany curse admins on?
22:38.26DuTempeteI'm baaaaack...
22:38.35foxlitIf they are, make your favorites notification quit spamming me
22:38.52foxlitAnd stop recompressing my UI screenshots to abysmal quality
22:39.00Kaydeethree~seen zeeg
22:39.06infobotzeeg <n=zeeg@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 19h 25m 43s ago, saying: 'gluck, off to see rush hour :)'.
22:39.07DuTempeteI just balanced my checkbook, from the point I got my school loan deposit to after I purchased all my books, paid all my bills, and went grocery shopping...
22:39.11DuTempeteHow depressing :(
22:39.25Kaydeethree1.85 in your account?
22:39.29DuTempetehehe
22:39.51DuTempete500ish, but I still have to pay off some course fees
22:40.14DuTempeteThey screwed up some paperwork, and didn't pay off the sister campus I'm taking online courses through.
22:41.11DuTempetebut that was 1200 bucks, gone in 3 days...
22:48.07DuTempeteYou wish, Adys.
22:48.13Adys:)
22:48.25DuTempeteKirkburn|afk isn't there a smaller wikia logo we can use?
22:54.33[NewsBot]MMO Champion: 1 to 58 leveling and Dustwallow V2 - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=724.0
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22:57.48Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Devil_Man/Demonolatry Huh?
22:58.12DuTempetewhat about it?
22:58.40foxlit<Malagmyr> This linguistics professor was lecturing the class.
22:58.41foxlit<Malagmyr> "In English," he explained, "a double negative forms a positive. In some languages, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative."
22:58.41foxlit<Malagmyr> "However," the professor continued, "there is no language wherein a double positive can form a negative."
22:58.41foxlit<Malagmyr> Immediately, a voice from the back of the room piped up: "Yeah..... right...."
22:59.57dreamsslol
23:00.15DuTempeterofl
23:03.57Sandwichman2448funny.
23:12.52[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II Gencon Indy 2007 Video - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1633
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23:15.27Kirkburn|afkFisker-, fair bit more added today -  http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page :)
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23:16.44Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, surely the one there is small enough? :O
23:16.52DuTempetenot finding one
23:19.26DuTempeteIt needs an image, too... should I put the policy image on it?
23:21.55*** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
23:22.09DuTempeteIt also needs a reference to the policy that determines consequences for repeat violations
23:25.22Kirkburn|afkWhat are you looking at me for? =P
23:25.46DuTempeteI think I'm going to also put a reference to the page on WW:DNP
23:26.07DuTempeteWell, I'm looking at you, but it has nothing to do with the wiki. ;)
23:27.40Kirkburn|afkhehe
23:27.56DuTempeteOoooooh.
23:34.38pcjshe's just using you for your power, don't give in
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23:34.59Kirkburn|afkBut I like it!
23:37.57DuTempeteBah, I use him for plenty of other things as well, pcj.
23:39.21DuTempeteok, added consequences section, Kirkburn|afk: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Wikisquatting
23:40.01DuTempeteAnd a reference to wikisquatting in the DNP: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Policy/DNP&diff=835113&oldid=750460
23:42.25Kirkburn|afkwoot
23:44.01DuTempetewoot that I use you or woot that the pages are good?
23:44.27pcjboth probably
23:44.32DuTempetehehe
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23:44.52*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
23:45.00DuTempeteAdys... nice boobies.
23:45.16Adysthanks, you too
23:45.25Kirkburn|afk:D
23:45.30DuTempeteI've never showed them to you.
23:45.36DuTempeteThose were a midget's.
23:45.38Adysyet
23:45.48Adysmine are gadgets
23:45.54AdysWIDGETS != GADGETS
23:45.55DuTempetea male midget's...
23:45.56AdysNOT THE SAME THING
23:46.12Adysno its a reference to some youtube movie
23:46.15Adysneed to find it sec
23:46.50DuTempeteit looks like ( . )( . )
23:46.54DuTempetehehe
23:46.59Adyshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNuq94Zg_8
23:48.16Adys~wwquotes
23:48.16infobothttp://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.html
23:48.29Adysnot updated, bad Teomyr
23:48.56Teomyri'm updating them at the VERY moment
23:49.22Kirkburn|afkAdys, my response - http://xkcd.com/198/
23:49.42Adysyou got linux
23:49.45Adysword
23:49.45Adys:D
23:50.02*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - No trolling/acc trading/emu serv talks, thanks || Not a Wotlk FAQ: http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT || FA time! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article || 42,0=500 articles!
23:50.09*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - No trolling/acc trading/emu serv talks, thanks || Not a Wotlk FAQ: http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT || FA time! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article || 42,500 articles!
23:50.15Kirkburn|afkrawr
23:50.27Kirkburn|afkhmm, tinyurl time?
23:50.32DuTempetelol
23:50.40Kirkburn|afkThraeBot: tl http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT
23:50.44ThraeBotKirkburn|afk: http://tinyurl.com/2egtsd
23:50.57Kirkburn|afkThraeBot: tl http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article
23:51.01ThraeBotKirkburn|afk: http://tinyurl.com/2m7sgb
23:51.39*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - No trolling/acc trading/emu serv talks, thanks || Not a WotLK FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/2egtsd || FA time: http://tinyurl.com/2m7sgb || 42,500 articles!
23:51.48Kirkburn|afkBetter :)
23:52.35DuTempeteI still love this comic: http://xkcd.com/
23:53.14DuTempeteAnd the one with the ball pit balls =P
23:53.39DuTempetehttp://xkcd.com/150/ (search feature ftw!)
23:54.38DuTempeteOh jesus... I just got an email from a classmate advertising Avon...
23:56.43TeomyrAdys, refresh
23:57.26AdysTeomyr: woot
23:57.31Adysmy boobies made in
23:58.00Teomyraye, that's what made me update it
23:58.17Adyslol
23:58.23Adysonly boobs can get you to do something
23:58.37Adyshey kirk we getting warhammer beta keys? :D
23:58.53DuTempeteOooh... beta keys!?
23:59.29Teomyrhmm, maybe it was a bad idea to put that quote in there
23:59.49DuTempeteoh, hot damn, she sent it to 3 of my courses... can you say fraud?!
23:59.49Adyslol

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