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00:54.07deltronhey guys
00:54.11deltroni found a troll
00:54.14deltronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Helmet_03.png
00:54.17deltrondon't click on his png
01:08.52VinemanWhat happens when you click it?
01:09.12deltroni think it's the png of death
01:09.16deltron0x0 size
01:09.22deltron400K size heh
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01:16.35deltronwell he did replace an icon
01:16.49deltronso just bringing that to your attention heh
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01:59.49AdysFisker-: LOL
01:59.54Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/05/new-expansion-new-map/
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02:31.23BraveFootwhat do I do to make one of those bullet thingys
02:32.05BraveFootnever mind, I just needed another l
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03:18.57GnarfozAdys: kalimdor looks like it looked pre-silithus-expansion, perhaps someone used old material (again)
03:19.11Adyscheck my wowinsider comment
03:20.46Gnarfozyeah, probably
03:20.54Gnarfozisland of dr. lapidis and the other one
03:22.24Gnarfozalso explains silithus' small size, dunno what's up with stonetalon/westfall/winterspring (ws is a minor difference, tho), and Quel'Thalas looks a bit odd
03:22.35Fisker-i send that bitch a smiley face
03:22.38Gnarfozstill, no one besides the guy(s) who did the map will know for sure :)
03:22.38Fisker-bitches love smilies
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07:18.23PolarinaAnyone knows how I get audio hardware acceleration to work? I only have this "8/6 07:12:24.607  Channels: 64 (64 software, 0 2D hardware(dsound), 0 3D hardware)". :(
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08:17.41Swaggahi
08:18.00Swaggaanyone here?
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08:49.34ws_hey
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09:49.11CursedshadowINathello
10:06.38ws_does Coffein resemble coffeine + coffin to you?
10:06.43ws_looking for an undead name
10:13.48fireglowi think you would hear something about not spelling coffeine right a lot :/
10:19.07ws_yeah, damn
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10:36.02ws_damn, can't think of a good name again
10:36.05ws_everytime I have this problem
10:36.09ws_undead rogue
10:38.58Apollozeusmale or female?
10:40.05ws_male
10:40.36ws_MyEyesAreDownInMyStomach
10:40.54ws_'mort' is taken already
10:41.10ws_hmm, mort, graveyeard, too much coffeine, rotten
10:41.16ws_thinking of some keywords first
10:41.40ws_prosectorium
10:42.09ws_FallingApart
10:45.38ws_if it was female, I'd call her Chlamydia
10:47.08ws_cocherbones
10:49.40ws_I might actually call him 'Herpes'
10:50.27ws_it'll be good
10:50.30ws_"Herpes got you!"
10:50.36ws_and noone would want to kill me anyway, what for?
10:50.41ws_to claim afterwards "I got herpes"?
10:51.14ws_damn, name unavailable
10:55.06ws_bonebandit
10:56.12ws_um, what do you think?
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11:00.41ws_bloodbrood
11:04.44laurlyhttp://www.gameriot.com/news/4119/BlizzCon-Footage-Costume-Contest/
11:05.03laurlycheck that adys
11:05.18Adyssaw it yesterday
11:07.15ws_lol
11:08.34laurlythe time they put into the constums is insane.
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11:17.51Kasothat blackle makes my eyes hurt >.<
11:23.04ws_grim, megrim - unavailable names
11:23.05ws_so is 'herpes'
11:23.06ws_damn it
11:25.55ws_fleshless?
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11:31.52maximrosseelHi
11:31.57maximrosseelI have a question
11:32.35maximrosseelDo you need to have burning crusade for a flying mount???
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11:50.50Tinyboomthat would be a yes:)
12:13.23Adys~seen hobinheim
12:13.26infobothobinheim <n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 16d 19h 57m 17s ago, saying: 'Kirkburn|afk, are you going to blizzcon?'.
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14:04.04ZizanzuAAdys?
14:04.21ZizanzuAdys*
14:04.29AdysHey
14:04.44ZizanzuI'm working with a Wowwiki:Tube
14:04.54Zizanzubut input box isnt instaled
14:04.59Adysuh?
14:05.37Zizanzuhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Tube
14:06.02Apollozeushmm
14:06.30Apollozeushow about making such an article in the main namespace
14:06.31Apollozeusand name it
14:06.42Apollozeus"List of popular World of Warcaft videos on YouTube"
14:07.01ws_there's soooo many of them
14:07.17ZizanzuU THINK WE SHOULD CREATE A NAMESPACE FOR IT lIKE MOmEDIA?
14:07.20ZizanzumEDIA*
14:07.24ZizanzuMedia*
14:07.43Apollozeuswell
14:07.50Apollozeusif the videos are popular enough
14:07.57Apollozeuswe could also give them an article
14:08.18Apollozeusall the videos could then be categorized in [[Category:Machinima]] or something similar
14:08.34ZizanzuI thinked Category:Media
14:08.42Apollozeustoo broad IMO
14:08.50Apollozeuscause images are also media
14:08.59Apollozeussound and music as well
14:09.10ZizanzuyES mEDIA
14:09.25Apollozeuswhat's wrong with your caps lock btw?
14:09.35ZizanzuIwait a little
14:09.40Zizanzuits my new irc client
14:09.51Zizanzuits settings for not display text i write
14:10.01ApollozeusI see
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14:12.09Zizanzui'm begginign to work with it
14:17.49foxlit"WoWWiki is not a truck!"
14:18.02Zizanzu?
14:19.35ws_damnit
14:19.39ws_can't name my undead rogue
14:20.26ws_death,mort,grave,bandit,pain,blood,herpes,megrim,gloomy,plague,hitman,hatchet man,ruffian,hoodlum,cutthroat,hangman,knacker,butcher,tough
14:20.28ws_can't decide
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14:21.00foxlitAdys: ping
14:21.04Adyspong
14:21.12foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Tooltip&curid=73241&diff=799576&oldid=734979
14:21.28Adysya?
14:21.36foxlitSecond changed line - inclusion of child tooltip into parent tooltip
14:21.52Adyson request per laurly
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14:22.00Adystalk to her if theres something wrong :p
14:22.03foxlitYou can't do it that way
14:22.08laurly?
14:22.10foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Golden_Spellthread
14:22.59laurlyknew that would happen you need to fix the item itself it doesnt have <noinclude> on the crap
14:23.15foxlitThat's not it
14:23.38foxlitRefresh it, I've fixed the noinclude part
14:23.47laurlyslow wiki
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14:28.19foxlitPoint being, try to find a page where that change works as you'd expect :)
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14:31.19pcjthat sounds odd, coming from a girl
14:33.19foxlitHave fun :P
14:33.27ws_from a girl?  nah, there are no girls on WoW
14:33.34ws_all female characters are guys too
14:33.41ws_they wank to their monitors whilst playing
14:33.47foxlit~internet
14:33.48infobotThe internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's, it's a series of tubes.
14:34.01foxlitHm, not quite the quote I was thinking of
14:34.14ws_~help
14:34.43ws_~listkeys
14:35.02pcj~polka
14:35.32foxlit"Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents."
14:35.44ws_rotfl foxlit
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14:38.16infobot"Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents."
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14:41.42laurlyi dont get it theres something wrong with the tooltip on that item.
14:42.14foxlitPick a pattern, any pattern
14:44.39AdysInteresting
14:44.51Adysdead npcs able to complete a quest dont show on the minimap
14:45.59foxlitUdalo?
14:50.52foxlitOh wow, mediawiki coding ftw
14:51.16foxlitApparently {{a}} and {{A}} are counted as different templates for the recursion check
14:53.02foxlitSo, laurly: if capitalization of {{tooltip matches on both pages, the inserted tooltip breaks; if it doesn't, it semi-works
14:53.13foxlitUsing lootbox in this context isn't very appealing, and the caption is rather evil
14:53.18laurlywhy does it work here?  http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurly/npclong_test
14:53.19foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Whitemend_Pants
14:53.48foxlitBecause you are not using {{tooltip}}
14:53.49laurlyok that makes sence
14:54.15foxlitIt should really break 100% of the time, but someone got lazy on standardizing template names
14:56.23laurlyso do you have a plan for fixing it or do you wana just put it back like it was?
14:58.27foxlitNot sure
14:58.44foxlitMaybe both
14:59.04foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Tooltip/Archive01#Examples_.28as_per_request.29
15:00.25foxlitI wonder how the recursion filter works
15:04.30foxlitYou might be able to make it work by not using lootbox (transcluding the child item directly), but you should really start a discussion somewhere as to whether the change is desired (last time around, it seems it wasn't)
15:04.45foxlitOr perhaps not
15:05.39foxlitI know {{gallery}} includes itself, so it's theoretically possible to have a tooltip in a tooltip. However, item pages end up doing a different tree: {{tooltip}} -> page -> {{tooltip}}, and that might be killing the tooltip
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15:11.45ws_forsaken look like pigs
15:11.53ws_their nose
15:11.55deltronwut
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15:14.14deltronBoubouille: is your blizzquote thing custom?
15:14.20Boubouilleyes
15:14.59deltronit's nice
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15:37.46Apollozeushonestly
15:37.46Apollozeushttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Sunwell_Plateau&diff=797981&oldid=797658
15:38.11ApollozeusKiljaeden ingame... seriously wtf.. this guy is on steroid
15:38.13Apollozeuss
15:38.54ws_um
15:39.04ws_guys, what's your pick on the best name for an undead rogue
15:39.07ws_let's say, among these:
15:39.25ws_migraine, krik, bandito, knacker, bonebandit, rottenbone
15:39.47deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712409160&sid=1 <-- lol
15:39.55ws_Apollozeus:  Kiljaeden?  sounds liek Dutch :-)
15:40.04ApollozeusDutch?
15:40.08ws_Apollozeus:  all I can say though is "een birtje, graag", and I can't spell it
15:40.20ApollozeusKiljaeden is anything but dutch
15:40.29Apollozeusand it's 'biertje'
15:40.36Apollozeuson a sidenote >_> I'd love one right now
15:40.56ws_lol
15:43.20ws_umm...
15:43.22ws_perhaps 'rottenskull'
15:43.36ws_that would possibly resemble certain aspects of mentality
15:45.05ApollozeusI'd go for migraine though
15:45.33huraxi'll prefer the beer to migraine
15:45.54Apollozeusyes
15:46.01Apollozeusbut ws_ was talking about the name of his rogue
15:46.03Apollozeus:p
15:46.13huraxi know, scnr ;)
15:47.25Boubouillehttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=632.0 < lolashbringer
15:47.34ws_megrim's used already
15:48.39ws_thing is, I'm afraid I could have a migraine myself playin this, lol
15:48.45Polarin1How is it to play a Warloc?
15:48.51Polarin1Warlock*
15:49.01ws_tried herpes but the name was used
15:49.09ws_if it was female, I'd call her Chlamydia
15:49.15ws_that's perfect undead feminine name for me
15:50.00ws_Polarin1:  like playing hunter, but people don't expect you to be chineese
15:50.41ws_nah, just kdding
15:51.23Polarin1http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=264316917&sid=1&pageNo=1     and     http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=264316917&sid=1&pageNo=4#69     =     lol.
15:52.52KasoIf it doesnt exist on WoWWiki, it doesnt exist anywhere!
15:53.05ws_Polarin1:  seriously though, go to www.wowwiki.com and browse warlock under 'Classes'
15:53.48Polarin1ws_: I never go to sites that advertise WoW Gold for sale! EVER!
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16:09.37ws_hmm, a Jewish undead would be Rottenzweig
16:09.41ws_or Rottenberg
16:10.27ws_but then, I'd have to pick jewelry
16:13.00Kaso"Wow Wiki, they're our friends!" aww
16:13.23ws_unfortunately, HarvesterOfSorrow is too long for a name
16:13.38ws_an undead rogue gardening flowers
16:13.42ws_what this game forces me to do, lol
16:13.53ws_damnit, if nothing pops up my mind next hour I'll call him PigFace
16:13.57ws_or missPiggy
16:14.04ws_thanks to his nose
16:14.24ws_nose, that is
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16:18.40Sargonasrawr
16:18.45Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
16:18.49SargonasYAY for random impromtu mini vactions at the last moment, hehe
16:18.51Sargonasyall miss me?
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16:19.06Fisker-|Pixel| my friend!
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16:19.51|Pixel|hm ?
16:20.18Fisker-are you going to upload high def versions of the Blizzcon Terran Singleplayer demo?
16:23.39Kaydeethreemeh, I got a copy on my cellphone, but it doesn't look all that good
16:25.11huraxfoxlit, you're there?
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16:28.49laurlyhey foxlit do you have a function for converting armory cost to gold/silver/copper?
16:34.26|Pixel|Fisker-: dunno :P
16:35.47Fisker-naga plz!
16:41.54huraxlaurly, do you have a recommended template for adding quests to the wiki? just stumbled on the darkmoon faire quests where the wowwiki page is just nonsense, allakhazam a funny mixup...
16:42.08huraxhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Your_Fortune_Awaits_You...
16:42.21huraxhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?source=live;wquest=7945&locale=enUS
16:42.22laurlylet me have the bot export it fo ryou.
16:42.38Fisker-wtf
16:42.55huraxfine
16:42.56Fisker-why are people bidding up to around 560$ for a murloc suit
16:43.48VinemanBecause money can't buy intelligence?
16:43.57VinemanIt can only buy an intellect buff
16:44.01VinemanAnd thats only half as good
16:44.21Fisker-well it's pretty silly to bid 550$ when you can just buy them for around 250-300$
16:44.29Fisker-where many people have said their buyout limits
16:44.52laurlyhurax theres 4 of them :/
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16:46.05huraxyes, 4 quests with the same name
16:46.26laurlycrap i broke quests in the bot. :/
16:46.56huraxouch
16:47.00MatthewShmmm
16:47.51Adyshmm?
16:48.05laurlyi need to stop rewriting the database.
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16:52.35MatthewSwell, there was going to be a 1.10 upgrade
16:52.39MatthewSbut i think it may be delayed
16:52.44Fisker-lolwut |Pixel|?
16:52.52Fisker-you has internal post counts of members?
16:53.01|Pixel|I think so
16:53.03|Pixel|why ?
16:53.12laurlyhurax http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/quest
16:53.20Fisker-cool :P
16:53.29laurlywant me to have her build all 4 then you can fix them if they need it?
16:53.34Fisker-i need to nag every living moment of Aeus to get it
16:53.46huraxwould be nice, thanks
16:55.08laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Your_Fortune_Awaits_You..  made the disamb page for you
16:56.20VinemanOmmrigar?
16:57.06laurlyhurax check them ok shes still in beta testing
16:58.41huraxshould be three dots ;) i'll copy the disambiguiation instead of the nonsense page
17:00.07laurlydone
17:00.27laurlyreload http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Your_Fortune_Awaits_You..
17:00.51laurlybut yeah move it to the ... i should let her make the disamb page shes better at it then me.
17:02.09laurlynice to know i didnt break quests that much...
17:02.17laurlyim afraid to try npc
17:03.18huraxlooks nice
17:03.46laurlyshes pritty fast to :)
17:04.33huraxseems like i just need to add reputation, level is wrong should be ~10 for the outside ones ~20 for dm/wc
17:06.44laurlyyeah your right 2 is missing the rep. put it on my watch list will find the bug tomrrow
17:08.03Fisker-OH HI ADYS
17:08.07Fisker-retard alert
17:08.15Adyshi
17:08.22Adysseen the wowinsider article?
17:08.44Malgayne_Which one?
17:08.56Fisker-the world map one yeah
17:08.58Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Gillijim%27s_Isle
17:08.58Adysthe one about the world map
17:09.14Adyslmao
17:10.23laurlyLOL
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17:20.10Sky2042lol. dalaran just decided to float away, eh?
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17:21.10pcjowld
17:21.55laurlyfoxlit did we have a cure for the tootip pattern issue?
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17:34.46KasoWhat will be at old dalaran then?
17:34.59KasoAlso what about the mobs around it that you can kill
17:35.12Sky2042who knows
17:35.41pcjblizzard knows
17:36.22Fisker-probably 73-77'ish
17:38.37KasoI mean these; http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=545
17:38.47Sky2042jesus, its been a busy five days that ive been gone :X
17:40.32Fisker-?
17:40.50Sky2042swim meet
17:40.55Sky2042why red?
17:41.00Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Preview_Default_Skin_2.jpg
17:41.09Sky2042oh
17:41.10Sky2042nvm
17:41.15Fisker-why crap?
17:41.18Sky2042ew
17:41.37Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/images/e/e3/Preview_Default_Skin_1.gif with the stuff on the right?
17:42.53Fisker-pretty bad photoshop btw
17:42.58Fisker-anyways EW EW EW EW
17:43.25Fisker-i might be able to dig anything but the right bar
17:43.40Sky2042truth
17:43.46Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Default_Skin_Preview
17:44.37Sky2042it looks like we hate it, tbh
17:44.40Sky2042lol
17:49.37Sky2042so wait, why can't they just add a new skin and then let people test it out?
17:50.37deltronMages
17:50.38deltron* Water Fountain and Muffin Factory (like the soulwell) are incoming. (No more "WATER PLZ !!!")
17:50.41deltronlool
17:51.32Sky2042lol
17:51.36Sky2042woohoo!
17:56.34Kasocan you summon a Fountain then click on it 10 times to get 200 water i wonder?
17:56.47Sky2042probably
17:56.49Sky2042lol
17:56.51Sky2042:P
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17:58.48foxlitShould come with a debuff on clicking@
17:59.26Sky2042lol, we gotta make sure it isn't overpowered, don't we?>
17:59.38foxlitNah, mainly convinience
17:59.45Sky2042you can't drink the water you just got from the fountain for an hour :p
17:59.46foxlitDon't want a few people draining the entire thing :P
17:59.57twoshadetodis it possible to script an action to occur when it comes up? like as in CD or through ability (overpower, riposte,etc)
18:00.10foxlitno
18:00.33Sky2042that would lead to botting
18:00.36foxlitYou can't script an action to occur period, tbh
18:00.38twoshadetodwhat about daggar in main hand while stealthed swithced to sword main and daggar off while unstealthed?
18:00.47twoshadetodok
18:00.58Sky2042that one's fine, since it has user input, i think
18:01.04Malgayne_Is there a macro command for stealth/unstealth?
18:01.37Sky2042aye
18:01.38twoshadetodi know tying the daggar mainhand into "stealth" would do it but if i got unstealthed through flare or something  it would not change over
18:01.46foxlit<PROTECTED>
18:01.50Sky2042^
18:02.03Sky2042no, it wouldn't twoshade
18:02.04Malgayne_Hehe
18:02.04twoshadetodthen switched on ambush but i'd hate to be left with a daggar in main hand if i get flared , etc
18:02.05Malgayne_Thanks Sky
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18:03.38foxlitHm, you might actually be able to swap gear in combat
18:03.56Malgayne_I think you can swap weapons only
18:03.58Sky2042weapons only
18:04.01twoshadetodI think not sure you can swap all but trinkets but haven't tried beyong weapons
18:04.01Malgayne_Right
18:04.05twoshadetodahhh ok
18:04.21foxlitI'm on more about user-input-less swapping of weapons than swapping of items in general
18:04.22foxlit:)
18:05.50Sky2042interesting link adys
18:05.59Adyson ashbringer?
18:06.09Sky2042yah
18:06.12Adysyea
18:07.11twoshadetodare there any moves a combat rogue can do that does an instant attack with offhand? is there any reason for a combat rogue to have swords in both hands unless the offhand very fast?
18:07.20Fisker-Shiv
18:08.19twoshadetodahh , how about SS's during blade furry , do those apply to nearby enemies or only yer autoattack/whitedmg?
18:08.38Fisker-any melee attacks
18:08.44Fisker-and only one nearby enemy
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18:10.38twoshadetoddamn, be sweet to stack 5 point on  dude and pop furry then eviscerate him and his buddy
18:18.03TaurmindoThraeBot: char eu the venture co griffster
18:18.06ThraeBotTaurmindo: Griffster, Level 70 Undead Priest (11/0/50). 6751 HP; 7290 Mana; 173 mana regen; 7 mp5; 166 spell crit; 95 spell hit; 621 +spell dmg; 783 +heal; 43 holy dmg (664); 4.9% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29j8gg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uqhk7 ]]
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18:30.23foxlitlaurly: hey foxlit do you have a function for converting armory cost to gold/silver/copper?
18:30.43foxlitIt's pretty much a normal mod / divide chain armory price is in copper, I believe
18:31.11foxlit[19:21] laurly: foxlit did we have a cure for the tootip pattern issue?
18:31.13Kaydeethreehey foxlit, can you fix the main page? the death knight link needs to point to [[Death Knight (hero class)]]
18:31.14foxlitNo, not really
18:33.25foxlitKaydeethree: done
18:33.34Kaydeethreesankyuu
18:34.23laurlyyeah think i figured it out foxlit
18:34.32laurlythe coper that is.
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18:37.53laurly_raiddo we decided to change it to Death Knight insted of Death knight ?
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18:43.21Kaydeethreeick...
18:43.41Kaydeethreejust hooked my camera up, took a 2GB SD card to blizzcon, digikam's importing 1.6GB
18:45.48Kasoand we want you to upload every last byte of it for us to see!
18:49.36Kaydeethreenot a problem
18:49.47Kaydeethreeworking on the press CD tgas at the moment
18:50.02Kaydeethreepretty good-looking screencaps, just trying to get everything under 3MB so I can upload them
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18:53.16MatthewSwarning, warning, there will be a 1.10 mediawiki upgrade this evening
18:54.02vlad_MatthewS: toss that on the village pump?
18:54.12MatthewSyupyup
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19:05.25Sargonasrawr
19:05.30Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
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19:10.03jmeis hunter's minimum range inside warrior's range for charge?
19:15.15Kasocharge is 8-25 yd range
19:15.22KasoAuto shot is 8-35 yd range
19:15.30Kasojme
19:17.12jmeKaso: thanks, i was about to look up charge
19:20.01laurly_raidthere should be a way to get it to work foxlit
19:20.46laurly_raidit will look better if we can get it to work
19:22.18Kasoits like some big orgy in here
19:27.46ClydeJrwhat's a good term to refer to the non-BC dungeons? I don't want to use non-BC because that'll get confusing when Wrath comes out. Old world dungeons?
19:28.00laurly_raidpre-BC
19:28.08Sargonasclassic?
19:28.09foxlit60-
19:28.12foxlitvanilla
19:28.19LysistrataI think Classic sounds good
19:29.14Sargonas*nod nod*
19:29.22LysistrataWotLK <-- I hope that is not the abbreviation that will be used for Wrath of the Lich King...
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19:30.15foxlitIt's not bad :)
19:32.10Kasoive always used Old World personally
19:40.11foxlitGah, all my WC/SC dicks are pc-only
19:40.20foxlitwtb free mac versions :/
19:46.17pcjBoP
19:48.29Fisker-niiiiiiiiiiiiice
19:48.33Fisker-SC dicks ftw
19:48.52Malgayne?!?!
19:49.44KasoI'd feel totally justified downloading copies
19:50.01Kasoi mean you buy a licence to the software not the disks its on right?
19:51.58pcja specific version of the software
19:52.53laurly_raid49k hit from hydros :)
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19:56.06Sargonasi think most folks will use LK for lich king
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20:22.40CLASHENanyone know where I can see the arena titles? like gladiator, rival etc
20:22.51CLASHENbecause wowwiki is REALLY slow
20:23.12VinemanWalk around Org at a busy time
20:28.13foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Title seems fast enough
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20:57.19Kaydeethreek, a bunch of screenshots from the press cd are getting uploaded, I'm using the same filename as on the CD so hopefully there won't be any duplicates. ping me if I overwrite something
20:57.45Apollozeus:D
20:59.22KaydeethreeI also added a bunch of the artwork images while at blizzcon, they're on my user:/blizzcon page
21:01.34laurly_raidhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Grizzley_Hills.jpg nice
21:02.11laurly_raidhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Tuskar_Chief.jpg <---- ahh hes cute
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21:04.33foxlitlowres versions of most of that are probably already on http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Galleria
21:04.54Kaydeethreeya, I saw. I seem to be putting highres versions of the same image up
21:05.59Kaydeethreelook at utgarde keep, btw
21:07.09Apollozeusmeh
21:07.48Sargonasneed some wow advice
21:07.49Apollozeusthe things we're looking at are probably a year away anyway :p
21:08.11Sargonas67 and a hair from 68.. just wrapped up nagrand.. should i move on to shadowmoon or netherstorm? which is gona go smoother?
21:08.37Kaydeethreehit blade's edge and do some quests there. the more of smv/netherstorm you do at 70 the better. lots more gold to be had
21:08.57ApollozeusI agree with Kaydeethree
21:09.20Sargonasbeen told baldes edge is downrigth crappy.. but okie
21:09.29Apollozeusit isn't
21:09.43Apollozeusback in the day there were only two graveyards or so
21:09.47Kaydeethreeas long as you try to stay in one area and work on quests there, it's not bad. just be sure to pick up the three flight points in the zone
21:10.01Kaydeethreeand what's the max filesize upload? 2M?
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21:29.36foxlitBlade's Edge is certainly the most boring zone
21:36.05Apollozeusgotta agree a bit
21:36.22Apollozeusthe quests when you got to walk to that cave of those black dragon tamers
21:36.31Apollozeusyou go back and forth so many times it isn't funny anymore D:
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21:57.57foxlitYou can actually stack those pretty easily
21:58.15foxlitMost recent completion required two visits to the cave
22:01.07foxlitNeed an opinion
22:01.23foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King
22:01.49foxlitDo the "Main article: ..." links really have to be there, or is the implicit linking in the text an okay substitute?
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22:10.19Apollozeushmm
22:10.25ApollozeusI think the timing for the Warcraft movie is brilliant
22:10.54Apollozeusin 2009, just when there are only one or two million subscribers left
22:11.27Apollozeusmovie could be a nice PR stunt >_>
22:13.07MalgayneI dunno
22:13.25MalgayneHard to tell how many subscribers there will still be in 2009
22:13.55MalgayneI mean, even Everquest still has a pretty hefty share of subscribers, doesn't it?
22:14.39Kasoloose 4 million customers in 2 years even though its currently still at an increasing rate
22:14.42Kasoi dont see that happening
22:15.22pcjall that has to happen is they do something really stupid...
22:15.27pcjlike introduce death knights
22:15.44Apollozeuswell alright
22:15.55MalgayneIt would take a Star Wars Galaxies level of stupidity to do that.  :P
22:15.57Apollozeusperhaps there'll be 3 or 4 million left, but still
22:16.16Apollozeusthe population number will probably be declining by 2009
22:16.26KasoI dont see how death knights are going to cause 4 million people to quit pcj?
22:16.31MalgayneThat I will accept
22:16.53Apollozeusthe release of a wow movie could give the subscriberbase an injection
22:17.03Apollozeusalso
22:17.09Apollozeuswhy bitch about death knights
22:17.17Apollozeusjust wait until blizzard comes with something concrete
22:17.21pcjit just seems like a dumb idea
22:17.45clad|awaywhy?  can you qualify it?
22:17.51pcjno
22:17.51Kasowhat about it? the class itself or the way you get the class or waht?
22:17.55clad|awaywhy not introduce another class
22:17.58pcjthe whole thing
22:18.02clad|awaydot dot dot
22:18.05clad|awayso you can't qualify it
22:18.12clad|awayyou think its going to ruin wow
22:18.16pcjanother class is fine, hero classes in general is just a dumb idea
22:18.25clad|awayorly?
22:18.29pcji'm sorry, i thought opinions were allowed in here
22:18.34clad|awaythey are
22:18.45clad|awaybut i like people to have _something_ behind what they are saying
22:18.54pcjwell i don't care what you think either
22:18.58clad|awayotherwise its just bitching, not talking
22:19.32pcjyou're the one who's bitching, i just said i thought death knights were a bad idea
22:19.38clad|awayand we want to know why
22:19.42clad|awayso we can have an intelligent discussion :P
22:19.48clad|awayi didn't think that was an unreasonable request
22:20.07clad|awayI'll shut up now, since you dont' have anythign more to provide, was just hoping for discource
22:20.29ApollozeusI also wonder at what level these death knights will be introduced
22:20.53Apollozeusbelow level 68 would seem stupid.. it'd mean you would have to send them to outland
22:20.55clad|awaythey anticipate something 60+
22:21.07clad|awaywell, that's a good way to make sure peopel are using outland still :P
22:21.16clad|awaywhich _will_ be something they want, same as their push to continue using azeroth
22:21.19Apollozeuslorewise it's pretty stupid :p
22:21.36spathiwhat i want to know is when they'll let us roll other classes at a starting level higher than 1
22:21.37Apollozeuswell, shattrath will still be busy
22:21.41clad|awayi'm sure they'll come up with something :P
22:21.46Apollozeusas it is used as a hub for professions
22:22.13Apollozeusspathi, sorry to burst your bubble but that won't ever happen
22:22.28foxlit!jobqueue
22:22.29spathimaybe in 2009 :D
22:22.30clad|awayI just dont know that, when the cap is 80.. i'll ever be able to roll from 1 again
22:22.34[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 8,688
22:22.49foxlitThe time to level alts is now!
22:22.53clad|awayindeed
22:22.53Apollozeusthe level 20-60 content needs work
22:23.02clad|awaythey're gonna double XP
22:23.06clad|awayor something to compensate for the difference
22:23.08foxlitI'm sure they could ever so slightly increase XP generation
22:23.14clad|awaythey said that at the R&D panel, in not so many words
22:23.23Apollozeusdouble XP?
22:23.24pcji think they said once you have a main at level 80 it'll be easier to get alts up
22:23.25Apollozeusawesome
22:23.36spathioh, this is news to me
22:23.45Apollozeusis that due to game experience or due to mechanics, pcj?
22:23.45spathigood news at that
22:23.58clad|awaythe fact that at level 56.. i can go to outland and grind level 58 mobs in Outland, and get almost twice the XP I get in Azeroth from level 58 mobs
22:24.02pcjuh mechanics i heard :P
22:24.08clad|awaythey didn't say "we'll double XP"
22:24.15clad|awaybtu they said they have plans to improve the speed of leveling 1-60
22:24.15dreamss2anyone have [Tsunami Talisman] ?
22:24.30Apollozeusthey do in Thailand, dreamss2
22:24.36dreamss2hehehe
22:24.36ApollozeusI mean.. err... <_<
22:24.48dreamss2does it stack with hourglass trinket?
22:25.09dreamss2elitist jerks says .9 ppm but its more than that
22:25.13pcjno, you see, apollozeus was attempting sarcasm
22:25.22dreamss2i noticed
22:25.32Apollozeusit wasn't sarcasm
22:25.40Apollozeus"bad joke" would be a better description
22:25.55foxlitI'd go with "off with his head!"
22:26.04foxlit!jobqueue
22:26.10[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 8,569
22:26.23Apollozeusjobqueue.. what is that anyway
22:26.39foxlitLong story, really
22:26.45pcjsomething the wiki has to relieve stress
22:26.51pcjsay you change Template:Tooltip
22:27.13pcjit spreads fixing the pages that link to it over time
22:27.15foxlitThat's only used in like 20k pages
22:27.37Apollozeushmm
22:28.48pcjhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue
22:28.57Apollozeusah
22:28.59Apollozeusthanks
22:30.28foxlitC&C3 Hard AI is evil
22:30.34foxlitBut at the same time lame
22:30.42foxlitIt's an odd combination :/
22:37.36foxlitIt's got a significantly better ability to manage multiple fronts, but no strategical foresight
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