IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070606

00:00.16Daemonai would pull the data from allakhazam but they dont know about the shield yet ;)
00:03.13Daemonato add an item you just add it to the items.csv of wowmodelviewer in the format "<itemid>,<displayinfo>,<itemclass>,<itemsubclass>,<slot>,name to display here"
00:05.45Skosiristry using  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32375&xml
00:06.10Skosiristhe displayinfo id would be  <icon id="45653">
00:09.38Daemonaworks good :)
00:09.49Daemonai will give you a nice pic in a moment :)
00:14.04BoubouilleDaemona
00:14.05Boubouilleyou suck
00:14.06Boubouilleseriously.
00:14.14BoubouilleZhar'doom, Greatstaff of the Devourer  Skin (Display ID : 45161)
00:14.15BoubouilleBulwark of Azzinoth Skin (Display ID : 45653)
00:14.15Daemonawhy?
00:14.21BoubouilleYou don't read the good sites :(
00:14.49Daemona:) if you get me the display id of "the brutalizer" now ...
00:16.00Boubouilleask Skosiris !
00:16.14Daemonai gt the xml code in front of me ;)
00:16.52Daemonabulwark -> <icon id="45653">inv_shield_32</icon>, brutalizer -> <icon>inv_axe_59</icon>
00:16.54Daemona:(
00:17.51Skosirisoh wait
00:17.56Skosiristhat's because of the cache heh
00:18.07SkosirisI just added the display id
00:18.13Skosirislet me clear these cache files
00:19.13Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32254&xml
00:21.51Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/wow/t6_bulwark.gif
00:21.58Daemonawithout axe has to do it for now :)
00:22.32Skosirissick looking shield
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00:23.32deltronno doubt!
00:25.41Adysnn peeps
00:27.41Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/wow/t6_bulwark_be.gif
00:27.47Daemonayeah, gief it to me baby
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00:55.40DaemonaBoubouille
00:55.42Daemonajust for you
00:55.45Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/wow/t6_rogue_warglaive.gif
00:56.20Boubouilleugly glow.
00:56.20Boubouille:p
01:04.38Zealbah, how are you supposed to work on addons through the night with maintenance :(
01:04.49Zealhm.. i've added a few of the newer items to wmv
01:04.56Zealmostly hunter loot
01:05.12Zealpolearm and bow from bt and hyjal for example
01:05.54Zealalso aded mag's glaive for fun, lol.
01:07.35KasoZeal wowbench can help somewhat
01:08.08Kasothough only for certain purposes, if youre designing a GUI or something maybe not
01:08.44SkosirisZeal: nudge
01:09.09Zealhm Skosiris?
01:09.33Zealand unless it can display the results and grpahical changes to the gui, then not really : /
01:10.01SkosirisZeal: I sent you a few PMs
01:10.10Zealhm.. any idea if it's possible to add/change some elements in the interface options?
01:10.18Zealoh? on here?
01:10.28Skosirisyea
01:10.31Zealfreenode sucks, very iffy on pm's : /
01:10.52Zeali've not recieved any, tried to speak to foxlit earlier too, and wasn't getting any replies :(
01:10.58Zealand yeah, i'm indentified
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01:15.57[Liquidor]http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/9046/madsquirllwu0.gif
01:17.24Devilkoulheh
01:18.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/05/guildwatch-get-me-the-board/
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01:59.55Sandwichman2448Hello.
02:02.18Sandwichman2448Quiet today...
02:02.27Sandwichman2448Do I smell bad?
02:02.38Sandwichman2448I just showered!
02:04.02Sandwichman2448I rarely get talked to.
02:04.06Sandwichman2448>:(
02:04.10Sandwichman2448Fine.
02:04.14Sandwichman2448Bye.
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02:16.35Sandwichman2448Anyone here now?
02:17.10Sandwichman2448...
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03:00.32Fisker-btw Boubouille
03:00.54Fisker-You do know that if you have seen the item it will be able to construct the tooltip without crashing you, regardless of server?
03:01.19Boubouilleoh my god I didnt think about that
03:01.26BoubouilleTHANKS A LOT FISKER FOR BEING SO SMART.
03:01.31Boubouille(I linked it in chat.)
03:02.44Fisker-i know!
03:02.58Boubouilleby linking it in chan, I mean whispering it to someone else
03:03.05Fisker-yeah i know
03:03.07Boubouille:(
03:03.13Boubouilleand yousuk
03:03.35Fisker-:<
03:03.40Boubouilleand i definitely deserve some sleep.
03:03.51Fisker-alright :o
03:03.55BoubouilleFAREWELL !
03:04.00Fisker-farewell!
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03:14.49Sky2042lol, super cleanup
03:19.53Sky2042queer
03:40.04Sky2042quiet tonight
03:40.08Sky2042something going on out there?
03:44.23Sky2042my god, zeal...
03:52.39Sky2042zeal did so much...
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04:06.04Tusvawow, is this guy serious?
04:08.15Sky2042i thought it was interesting too
04:08.24Sky2042queer name, but his edits seem true to me
04:08.28Tusvaeh
04:08.41Tusvahe's asking people to comment on deletion pages that are clearly {{sd}}s
04:08.48Tusvaand he's messing with move redirects
04:08.52Sky2042i'm not sure he knows what an SD
04:09.02Tusvasubtle trolling especially with the name
04:09.03Sky2042is*
04:09.12Tusvapretty sure there's a WW policy somewhere against that :P
04:11.37Sky2042against... the name?
04:11.54Tusvayeah
04:12.41Tusvanone of his edits are actually valid and it's a explicit name, it's like a masked way of trolling
04:12.50Tusvaand vandalising
04:12.54Tusvaaside from his first few edits that i
04:12.56Tusva*is
04:13.15Sky2042eh, he's an iffy case
04:13.22Sky2042sandwich put him on the watch list
04:13.40Sky2042and no, we don't have a policy against usernames
04:13.47Tusvai know that
04:14.23Tusvawhy does he keep using {{SITENAME}} ?
04:14.39Tusvait's all very fishy
04:15.27Sky2042gryphen, kirkburn, or tekkub, have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:ILikeDicksInMyAsshole , http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:ILikeDicksInMyAsshole , and http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/ILikeDicksInMyAsshole : what do either of you 3 think
04:15.53Sky2042and what do you mean by sitename?
04:15.57Sky2042show me da edit!
04:16.00TekkubI think I like like dicks in my asshole...
04:16.21Sky2042lol
04:16.35Tusvahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:ILikeDicksInMyAsshole&action=edit
04:16.44Sky2042lol tusva
04:16.52Sky2042huh
04:17.03Tusvahe did it in all of his edits to
04:17.05Tusva*too
04:17.10Sky2042where does the sitename pop up?
04:17.26Tusvawhat do you mean?
04:17.58Sky2042well*
04:18.17Sky2042where did that function come from?
04:18.35TusvaI assume it's an inherient MediaWiki one
04:18.43Tusva*inherent
04:18.43SkosirisSky
04:18.53Sky2042hmm, sko?
04:18.57Sky2042well, yeah tus ;P
04:18.59Skosirismore articles! We need more articles!
04:19.02Sky2042lol
04:19.10Sky2042something other than an NPC
04:19.22Skosirishow about.. ogrila?
04:19.26Tusvait's just bizzare as hell he's using it. it's like he's a wiki-knowledge filled trolling moron
04:19.29Tusvabot.
04:19.30Tusvathing.
04:19.33Sky2042but he's not
04:19.40Sky2042look at his own talk page edit
04:19.53Sky2042moron or thing, sre
04:19.56Sky2042but no bot is he
04:19.59Tusvawell yeah
04:20.05Tusvabot was more sarcastic :P
04:20.12Tusvathe {{SITENAME}} thing just bugs me that's all
04:20.35Sky2042i think he just doesn't know about SD
04:20.41Sky2042or speedydelete
04:20.47Sky2042delete is fairly intuitive.
04:20.58Sky2042and policy says to go with delete, just in case you aren't sure
04:21.11Sky2042lol
04:21.14Sky2042tekkub
04:21.18Tusvai find it hard to believe he picked that username without the intent to get it seen as much as possible
04:21.22Sky2042guess we'll just block him
04:21.25Sky2042aye
04:21.25Tusvawoo!
04:21.36Tekkubwhat?
04:21.47Tekkubtho the name might be true, it doesn't belong on the wiki
04:21.51Sky2042true
04:22.00Tekkubeven if he made valid edit,s they have to go
04:22.03Sky2042i'd place a note on his user page about it, just in case he's real
04:22.17Sky2042just tell him to change his name if he wants to come back
04:22.48Tusvait's not like it was a mistake though :P "whoops I put in an extremely flammatory username!"
04:22.59Sky2042lol
04:23.01Sky2042truth
04:23.16Tusva"damn typos!"
04:24.38Sky2042huh
04:25.25Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Quest:Mage%27s_Wand
04:25.51Sky2042LOL
04:26.08Sky2042maybe you wanna redelete that tekkub >.>
04:26.20Sky2042completely unintentional recreation
04:27.07Tusvaspammer! he's a witch! burn 'im!
04:30.32TusvaI miss my NWN PW :/
04:32.32Tusva-r
04:32.37Tusva*ened..dammit
04:41.49Sky2042!*
04:42.33Sky2042elemental plane
04:42.35Sky2042nub
04:42.36Sky2042;P
04:42.50Sky2042elemental plan of fire, actually.
04:42.52Sky2042lol
04:43.05Tusvahehe
04:43.10TusvaNO LET'S ARGUE ABOUT IT RAR
04:43.46Sky2042lol
04:48.51KirkburnBtw, reminder about http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article :D
04:49.03Kirkburn(I forgot to change myself to |sleep, so sue me)
04:51.20Sky2042so kirkburn, did you actually sleep, and are now awake, or are you now going to sleep?...
04:51.28Kirkburnformer
04:51.50Sky2042aha
04:51.50KirkburnI might do the next FA later today if I get bored
04:51.58KirkburnSeems it's between Deathwing and Lament of the Highborne
04:52.35Sky2042i'd say go with lament. more opposes, but more votes in general
04:52.42Sky2042throw in deathwing in 2 weeks or w/e.
04:52.48Tusvastart with lament and queue deathwing
04:52.49Tusvayeah that
04:53.24Sky2042oh god kirkburn, as if we're going to be able to fill the netherwing article...
04:53.26Sky2042xD
04:53.47Tusvacantypefasttosothere!
04:53.52Sky2042too*
04:54.30TusvaNO LET'S ARGUE ABOUT IT RAR
04:57.04TusvaI suspect no one's using {{Icon_Needed}} :/
04:57.53Tusvathough with the tooltip template i suppose it's easier to just leave it blank
04:58.50Sky2042it could be changed, so as to use the question mark
04:59.17Sky2042like, if we don't have an icon for {{tooltip}}, we stick {{icon needed}} at |icon=
04:59.39Tusvathat breaks it though, we'd have to tweak the template
04:59.44Tusva*the icon needed template
04:59.53Tusvajust having it default to the ? icon would suffice I think
05:00.39TusvaOH GOD
05:01.10Sky2042another word for cackle?
05:01.27Tusvahm?
05:01.31Tusvaasking?
05:01.33Sky2042aye
05:01.40Tusvachortle?
05:01.43Tusvano, too subtle
05:01.45Sky2042I can't think of one off the top of my head to describe an evil laugh...
05:01.47Tusvaguffaw?
05:01.51Tusvamanicial laughter?
05:01.55Tusvamaniacal
05:02.21Sky2042damn, why the hell does ragestorm never get on kirkburn?
05:02.22Sky2042:(
05:02.45KirkburnWhaddya mean?
05:03.17Sky2042it would be so nice to talk with him about lore on here
05:03.25Sky2042get on irc*
05:03.32Tusvatrue.
05:03.38Tusvahe could own everything we say, lore-wise
05:03.42Sky2042nah
05:03.46Sky2042he's not that good
05:03.47Tusvano, for fun!
05:03.48Tusvaaw.
05:03.54Sky2042i'm pretty sure he hasn't even read roth...
05:03.56Sky2042>.>
05:04.07Sky2042but i could be wrong
05:04.10Sky2042!wwstats
05:04.11[NewsBot]#wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html
05:04.44Tusva[NewsBot], I love you
05:04.56Tusvaoh my god!
05:05.02Tusvai haven't seen an IRC stats page for almost 10 years
05:05.50Sky2042newsbot is amazing, if a little slow for his intended purpose.
05:06.22TusvaI used to be a giant IRC user. Like, almost 24/7, back in the day X)
05:06.54Sky2042lol
05:06.57Sky2042226 actions.
05:07.02Sky2042muahahaha
05:08.15Sky2042ok, why didn't they just release that as a hotfix? :/
05:08.22Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/2.1.1
05:08.58Tusvathey bugged gruul with that goddamn patch, btw
05:09.02KirkburnMain page update! Not a new FA yet though
05:09.25Sky2042ho my god
05:09.51KirkburnBtw, anyone noticed the "in other languages" links at the side?
05:09.58Sky2042yup
05:10.07Sky2042that's the only page that uses them atm
05:10.48Sky2042kirkburn, are we running 1.1.0 MW or stil 1.9.3?
05:10.58Sky20421.10.0*
05:11.22Sky2042LOL
05:11.43KirkburnI noticed that the Illidan FA still said he "will be introduced" :P
05:12.04Tusvaand promptly killed :/
05:12.51KirkburnBtw, I think we need to change the patch notes naming at some point
05:13.04KirkburnIt's pointless having the (Release Notes) bit
05:13.39Sky2042when you edit the FA, change it so that [[WoWWiki:Featured article|Previously featured]] should be changed to [[WoWWiki:Feature article#Articles previously featured|Previously featured]]
05:13.46Sky2042is*
05:14.03TusvaMaybe Patch:2.1.1?
05:14.08Tusvaor Patch Notes:2.1.1?
05:14.13Sky2042bad tusva
05:14.17TusvaNO
05:14.22Sky2042Patch 2.1.1 is fyne
05:14.41Sky2042redirect from [[2.1.1]]
05:14.48KirkburnSky2042, good idea
05:14.52Kirkburn(at the FA bit)
05:15.00Sky2042;)
05:15.10TusvaKirk I think the (Release Notes) is to differentiate it from (Undocumented Changes)
05:15.16Sky2042And why is it [[Main Page]], rather than [[Main page]]
05:15.31Sky2042yeah, tusva, but you can still make a page with (undocumented changes) on it
05:15.53TusvaI know, but I think it helps to have one that's clearly the patch notes, and not a mixed bag
05:16.04Sky2042m
05:16.13KirkburnMain Paghe due to mediawiki defaults
05:16.20Tusvait's very clear when looking at both articles in a list which is which, whereas just "Patch 2.1.1" is ambiguous
05:16.30KirkburnAt some point we should probably switch to Portal:Main
05:16.55KirkburnTusva, there's only one undoc changes page though
05:16.59Sky2042true, tusva
05:17.05KirkburnAnd about 30 normal ones :P
05:17.24KirkburnI guess redirects work well enough
05:17.31Tusvai know i've seen others, maybe not categorized
05:17.51Tusvaah, they were mixed in in previous articles
05:19.03TusvaI guess some standardization one way or the other is needed
05:20.09Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Patches
05:20.42Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Evil_Patch_Notes%29 :P
05:20.46Tusvahehe
05:20.49TusvaI remember those
05:20.51KirkburnBtw, anyone know if EU servers are up?
05:21.49Sky2042lol, funniest thing about the evil patch notes is that that was the Mage review
05:22.05Sky2042instead, all we get was "another, unique, icon!"
05:22.10Sky2042new*
05:22.36Tusva"New Form: Bear Form and Dire Bear Form! This new ability should help the Paladin tank in five, ten and twenty player-capped dungeons." Alas :'(
05:22.41Sky2042kirkburn, why is that page protected?
05:23.45Sky2042and as for "Portal", that's not actually an MW default. that's wikipedia's single custom namespace
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05:24.22Bagginswwany possibility of putting that demonic traits table to the right,a nd let text go beside it?
05:24.31Bagginswwits kinda ugly where it is in the article
05:25.33KirkburnSky2042, which?
05:25.44Sky2042evil patch notes
05:25.52KirkburnOh, people trying to change it
05:26.03Sky2042it hasn't been touched in how long?
05:26.03Bagginswwit should be protected
05:26.17Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_1.11_%28Evil_Patch_Notes%29&action=history
05:26.20KirkburnSky2042, well duh, cause it's protected!
05:26.24Sky2042it was protected in january
05:26.26Sky2042lo
05:26.27Bagginswwgood
05:26.28Sky2042lol*
05:26.38Sky2042sigh
05:26.52Bagginswwsome of the vandalims was people trying to "fix" it LOL
05:27.17Sky2042there was a 2 month break between the last non-admin/non-contributor edit and the protection...
05:27.17Kirkburn"16:52, 21 August 2006 Kirkburn (Talk | contribs | block) (Cripes, are you BLIND?) " :D
05:27.46Sky2042lol, kirkburn, he was -adding- stuff ;P
05:27.54TusvaI bet ninjas are just waiting...watching
05:27.58Tusvaas soon as that gets unprotected....WHAM
05:28.07Tusvamassive edits. the likes you've never seen!
05:28.08Sky2042mmm, comments on http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Emulated_server ?
05:28.16Sky2042wtb comments, pst
05:28.29TusvaOh that Kos guy
05:28.33Bagginswwwell there are certain articles I've protected simply because we don't want peopl to "fix it". Like the timelines that are typed out verbatim
05:28.37TusvaConvinced Blizzard is out to get him
05:29.20KirkburnUnprotected it, but added note back at top
05:29.43Sky2042fine w/ me
05:30.24KirkburnBagginsww, sounds fair
05:31.09Tusvabtw, for http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Item_Article_Standardization does it make sense to just point to the Item Boilerplate as the official one to be used? In case there's someone asking "well I want to make an item article like <this>"
05:31.48TusvaJust to get it out of Ratified
05:32.06Sky2042go ahead and add it to the appropriate place
05:32.20Sky2042I wouldn't say official though.
05:32.28Sky2042encouraged, perhaps
05:32.30Sky2042official, no
05:32.39Tusvawell that defeats the entire purpose of the policy
05:32.53Tusvathe point was to have one template to point to and say "this is what we use for item articles"
05:33.06Tusvanot "hey, maybe you should use this, but do what you like" :P
05:33.20Tusvato prevent people from making tons of /Icon and /Tooltip inclusions, which still happens
05:33.49Sky2042but it isn't official; there are probably dozens of pages which don't follow the boilerplate. I don't want to see those... changed.
05:33.57Tusvaof item pages?
05:34.00Tusvajust item pages
05:34.16Tusvanothing else
05:34.25Sky2042usually the articles with a background in RPG, or those with an extensive amount, such as C. Ashbringer or Atiesh, Greatstaff
05:34.42KirkburnOh, well, there's always exceptions to the rule
05:34.46Tusvaright
05:34.51Tusvaand i doubt those break the template severely.
05:34.54KirkburnBut we need to point people in the right direction for everything else
05:34.54Tusvait's not those I'm worried about
05:35.04Tusvait's the ones that make the tons of extra inclusions and stuff
05:35.38KirkburnTusva, I say fine (but perhaps with note to mention that there are rare exceptions)
05:36.06Kirkburn|afkbbiab
05:37.58TusvaIt should probably be moved to WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Item_pages for the sake of consistency
05:38.35Kirkburn|afkOooh, Kralnor reference on the Armory!
05:38.42Sky2042o?
05:38.52Kirkburn|afkCheck the US one, and look at the updates
05:39.25Sky2042yay!
05:39.30Kirkburn|afkOh wow, drop rates?
05:39.32Kirkburn|afkBosses?!
05:39.36Tusva!@
05:39.39Kirkburn|afkFaction rewards?!
05:39.53Kirkburn|afkTaken them enough time ...
05:40.02Kirkburn|afkDoesn't give exact drop rates though
05:40.04Sky2042drop rates...
05:40.11Kirkburn|afk"Low", etc
05:40.15Sky2042no fucking way
05:40.18Sky2042blizzard?
05:40.21Sky2042drop rates?
05:40.25Sky2042skosiris !!!!
05:40.33Sky2042blizzard is stealing your thunnnnnder
05:40.47Sky2042http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#index.xml
05:40.48Tusvais anything not "Low" ? :P
05:40.52Sky2042quest items
05:40.56Sky2042;p
05:41.18Tusva"Only items that have been 'discovered' in-game (at least one of that item has been acquired) are searchable in the Armory."
05:41.20Tusvasneaky sneaky
05:41.26Sky2042bah
05:41.46TusvaSo much for looking up what Arthas drops
05:42.59Sky2042lol
05:43.06Kirkburn|afkzomg, competitions!
05:43.08Sky2042http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4FDdOV7Jj0
05:43.12Kirkburn|afk-s
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05:43.17Tusvathat's awesome that it shows the "where it drops from" in the character sheet tooltips
05:43.23Sky2042knowning skosiris, he'll just use it to his advantage :]
05:43.42Kirkburn|afkOh, yeah, good ideas to take from it
05:43.53Sky2042instead of just straight percentages, he'll pull from the xml that shows the description
05:43.54Kirkburn|afkIt's obvious why Blizz started it, in order to take business away from Thott, etc
05:44.04Sky2042like x% (Low)
05:44.17TusvaJusticar Gloves: Source: Vendor...hmmm :P
05:44.20Tusvaa bit too literal
05:44.30Sky2042lol
05:44.37Sky2042well, wowhead says the same i think ;P
05:44.50Tusvawith a -touch- more detail :P
05:44.52Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29065
05:44.54Sky2042true
05:44.55Tusvastill
05:44.57Tusvaan awesome first step
05:45.02Tusvafor the normally secretive Blizzard
05:45.20Kirkburn|afkCheck out the Browse the Armory dropdown - totally stolen from Wowhead :P
05:45.33Apollozeushmm
05:45.44ApollozeusPTR of Patch 2.2 seems to be on the horizon already
05:45.58Sky2042lern2javascript, silly
05:46.05Tusvathat was fast
05:46.21Tusvamaybe they can re-un-break Gruul with it
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05:46.30Apollozeushttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/05/voice-chat-coming-in-2-2-0/
05:46.35Sky2042the lead guilds are just about done with content, so that means bliz has to make new stuff
05:46.35Tusvaugh
05:46.39Sky2042truth
05:46.50Sky2042lol, kirkburn
05:46.57Sky2042let me show you someplace else where you can see that
05:46.58Apollozeusso you're saying Zul'Aman in next patch?
05:47.08Sky2042http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/
05:47.10Sky2042possibly
05:47.25Sky2042i'm fairly certain said site was around before wowhead
05:47.43Skosirisbefore wowhead?
05:47.47Sky2042yup
05:47.54Sky2042no before wowhead jokes out of you
05:48.41Kirkburn|afkhuh?
05:48.49Kirkburn|afkSky2042, you're odd :P
05:48.59Sky2042talk to my lawyer
05:49.03Sky2042:P
05:49.17TusvaAhem.
05:49.22TusvaMy client demands justice!
05:49.47Kirkburn|afkIf Blizz really wants to compete, they seriously need to improve their code though
05:49.55Kirkburn|afkOn IE, the armory runs like a sloth
05:50.00Sky2042same on firefox
05:50.07Kirkburn|afkA crippled sloth. With terminal cancer. In jelly.
05:50.09Sky2042compared to wowhead.
05:50.16Tusvait's all the flashing widgets
05:50.27Tusva75% of which are unnecessary, but they gotta make it look flashy
05:50.52Tusvathat little dancing light beam around the search box is just begging to be optimized
05:51.08Sky2042lol
05:51.15Sky2042i like the pretty light!
05:51.37Tusvayou know when Paladin's mention The Light?
05:51.39Tusvathat's it!
05:51.59Sky2042lol... i don't think so.
05:52.05Tusva>:|
05:52.34Kirkburn|afkSkosiris, think you can make use of some of their new stuff? :P
05:52.48Kirkburn|afkI like their idea of adding the source, boss and drop rate to item tooltips
05:53.50Sky2042skosiris prefers that his tooltips remain as "in-game" as possible
05:55.01Sky2042rather than search for them.
05:55.25Sky2042holy shit, page broke
05:55.38Sky2042searching for atiesh took like, 15 seconds
05:56.40Sky2042and their javascripting sucks...
05:57.12[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Error reading source feed. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?type=rss;action=.xml;board=2.0;sa=news;
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05:59.06Kirkburn|afk[NewsBot], uh, thanks?
05:59.44Sky2042whoa.
06:00.25Kirkburn|afkHey babycakes
06:00.59Sky2042bad apollozeus, bad apollozeus
06:01.59Apollozeuswhat :(
06:02.04Skosiriswhoa, I just realized I missed the armory discussion :(
06:02.20Kirkburn|afkSkosiris, >_<
06:02.26Sky2042looooooool
06:02.37TusvaThat was SO 10 minutes ago.
06:02.42Tusva:D
06:02.59Sky2042try 20 minutes, or maybe 30
06:02.59Sky2042nub
06:03.27Sky2042actually, skosiris...
06:03.29Tusva[01:54] <Kirkburn|afk> Skosiris, think you can make use of some of their new stuff? :P
06:03.33Tusva[02:04] <Tusva> That was SO 10 minutes ago.
06:03.42Skosirislol
06:04.08Sky2042[23:02] <Skosiris> whoa, I just realized I missed the armory discussion :(
06:04.21Tusvaso, 8 minutes, then
06:04.27Sky2042sigh...
06:04.30Tusva:D
06:04.50Sky2042use Skosiris's point of reference, not your own, silly.
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06:04.51TusvaI wish it was still 23:00 here :/
06:04.53Kirkburn|afkWell, i first started talking about it half an hour ago :P
06:05.04TusvaYes but the discussion was still going on- oh nevermind
06:05.35Skosirishow about you recap your thoughts for me?
06:06.18Kirkburn|afkSomeone in my house put uncooked pasta ... in the fridge. wtf.
06:06.31Kirkburn|afkSkosiris, that's there's a lot of new stuff, essentially :P
06:06.41Kirkburn|afkOh and there's a Kralnor references on the Updates page
06:06.46Sky2042like, a lot of stuff
06:06.54Skosirissuch as?
06:07.08Sky2042we can search items
06:07.09Kirkburn|afkBosses, factions
06:07.14Skosirisno wai
06:07.18Sky2042sort them
06:07.19Sky2042http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/search.xml?fl%5Bsource%5D=all&fl%5Btype%5D=weapons&fl%5BusbleBy%5D=all&fl%5Bslot%5D=all&fl%5BsubTp%5D=all&fl%5BrqrMin%5D=&fl%5BrqrMax%5D=&fl%5Brrt%5D=all&advOptName=spellDamage&advOptOper=gt&advOptValue=40&fl%5Bandor%5D=or&searchType=items&fl%5BadvOpt%5D=spellDamage_gt_40#search.xml?searchType=items&p=1&sf=col1&sd=a&fl[source]=all&fl[type]=weapons&fl[subTp]=all&fl[rrt]=all&fl[slot]=all&fl[andor]=or&f
06:07.21Tusva"source" of the item
06:07.26Sky2042whoa, super link
06:07.29Skosiriswhoa, that's a huge-ass url
06:08.03Kirkburn|afkAlso, you can set one char as your default it seems
06:08.14Sky2042lol@tusva's browser
06:08.31Kirkburn|afk"Items, dungeons, bosses and factions are now searchable"
06:08.45SkosirisI tried searching for "Kael'thas"
06:08.52Kirkburn|afkAlso "dual item tooltips"
06:09.01Kirkburn|afkNot all bosses, I guess. Esp. not Illidan!
06:09.10Sky2042isn't kael'thas down?...
06:09.12Sky2042>.>
06:09.13Sky2042<.<
06:09.29Fisker-new armory then or what?
06:09.30Sky2042i know illidan is...
06:09.33Sky2042updated
06:09.48Sky2042nihilum got that particular boss..
06:09.53Kirkburn|afkDual item tooltips appear to be for the pinned char - you can compare items, much like in WoW
06:10.13Kirkburn|afkOh, and "find an upgrade" stuff
06:10.17Fisker-is it deployed on EU yet?
06:10.25Kirkburn|afkNope :/
06:10.30TusvaErm. Hmm.
06:10.31Sky2042qq
06:10.39Fisker-|Pixel| !!!!!
06:10.42Fisker-work!
06:10.47Kirkburn|afkAnd lots of filters ... Wowhead
06:10.52Kirkburn|afk*like ~
06:10.52TusvaViolent Eye faction items...missing..
06:11.45Tusva*Violet
06:11.47Kirkburn|afkIt's still "beta" :P
06:12.12Kirkburn|afkThey should add the talent stuff to the armory section
06:12.53TusvaThe server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
06:12.59TusvaMore like Alpha!
06:13.25Fisker-seriously
06:13.27Fisker-AJAX = GTFO
06:14.05TusvaThat's it, I'm going to bed.
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06:16.14Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Tekkub
06:16.25Tekkubwho wants to explain, I'm not wasting my time
06:17.01Sky2042told you to leave a note
06:17.03Sky2042didn't i?
06:17.05Sky2042-_-
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06:21.46Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/05/baby-stingray/
06:22.30Sky2042kirkburn|afk, can i infringe on an admin's ground at tekkub's talk page? >.>
06:22.59Kirkburn|afkOf course?
06:23.02Tekkubyou can do whatever you want on my page
06:23.10TekkubI'll just revert it if I want to :P
06:23.10Sky2042or tekkub can
06:23.12Sky2042lol
06:23.19Sky2042tekkub can infring on an admin's ground...
06:23.21Sky2042>.>
06:23.22Sky2042<.<
06:24.05TekkubKirky, if he don't fix himself pronto, you take control as my ban obviously didn't hold up
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06:26.16Tekkub<PROTECTED>
06:26.23Sky2042lol kirk, he just never ided...
06:26.23TekkubI hate fucking children like this
06:26.48Tekkub"Oh gee how far can I push the line and pretend I don't know what I'm doing"
06:27.44Kirkburn|afkI guess it's probably best for us just to not listen until he gives up
06:27.46Sky2042me > kirkburn, imo
06:27.59Kirkburn|afkhehe
06:28.14Sky2042lrn2usecorrectvocab, imo
06:28.19Karrionif he's even asking that question, he's clearly not serious and can GTFO
06:28.24Sky2042yuh huh
06:28.58Tekkubokey, I had to :)
06:29.09Sky2042aw, tekkub
06:29.20Sky2042lol
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06:30.26Tekkub<PROTECTED>
06:30.36Tekkub(yes, I know what Pidgin means)
06:30.50Karrionbah, tcp over avian carrier FTW
06:31.09TekkubTCP/AC
06:31.14Sky2042lrn2spl pidgin, ppl.
06:31.44Sky2042pidgin =! bird
06:33.21amroSky2042: technically that means pidgin is the opposite of a bird
06:33.26Sky2042no
06:33.33Sky2042=! means that pidgin is not a bird
06:33.34Sky2042period
06:33.38Sky2042it does not equal bird
06:33.56Tekkubsky, you're stupid
06:34.04Tekkub"(yes, I know what Pidgin means)"
06:34.08amrodoes not equal is !=. =! is equals the inverse of a bird
06:34.13Sky2042LOL
06:34.22Tekkuband yes !=, ~= or <>
06:34.39Tekkub=! is some bastardization only you could come up with
06:35.00Sky2042but aren't i just following the people who invented the english language? what's wrong with that?
06:38.24Sky2042just end it tekkub
06:38.25Sky2042sigh
06:38.34Kirkburn|afkMore, mooooore! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article
06:38.44TekkubI can't, only kirk can place a ban that will stick better
06:38.56Kirkburn|afkphwaa?
06:38.56ApollozeusKirk
06:39.11Sky2042bureus can ban? (rather than block?)
06:39.13Apollozeuspromote either one to FA
06:39.21Sky2042truth
06:39.35Apollozeusbans at wikis are called blocks
06:39.46Sky2042no
06:39.51Sky2042ban goes for IP
06:39.54Sky2042block goes for name
06:39.56Sky2042not the same
06:39.56Apollozeusno, that's still a block
06:40.22Sky2042and you would know the difference... how?
06:40.23TekkubI can't get IPs though
06:40.30Apollozeusa block is physical, it prevents someone from editing the encyclopedia
06:40.31Tekkubso only Kockburn can do it
06:40.34Kirkburn|afkNeither can I
06:40.43Kirkburn|afkMy blocking abilities are the same as yours
06:40.48Apollozeusbanning is just telling someone "you are not allowed to edit this and this article"
06:40.48Sky2042dum dum dum
06:40.49Tekkubwhy not? you're fired
06:40.55Kirkburn|afk>_>
06:41.16Kirkburn|afkTherefore, block away
06:41.51Sky2042just do it
06:42.03Sky2042he's either a mental retard, or playing games with us
06:42.16Sky2042i don't think i'd want either editing the wiki
06:42.21SkosirisSkyyy
06:42.50SkosirisTekkub just had a great idea
06:42.54Sky2042?
06:43.02amrohe's obviously just being a jackass, ban
06:43.04Skosiristhe [map] thingy could be used to add a map to quest pages
06:43.24Tekkubyea amro, already did that....
06:43.28Sky2042there's a [map] thingy
06:43.31Sky2042?
06:43.37Skosirisya
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06:46.08Kirkburn|afkTekkub, weird thing is, his earlier edits weren't actually vandlism! He fixed mistakes by Elrox :/
06:46.18TekkubI know, but still
06:46.25Kirkburn|afkOh sure
06:46.31Kirkburn|afkDoesn't excuse the name
06:46.31Tekkubhe's just pushing it
06:46.33Kirkburn|afkJust makes him odd
06:46.49Kirkburn|afkHmm, guess we don't have a username policy
06:46.56Kirkburn|afkWe could probably just link to wikipedia's
06:47.34Sky2042eh, just say no inappropriate words or phrases. wikipedia's is so bloated, to deal with every language
06:49.07Kirkburn|afktadaa http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policies#Usernames
06:49.31Kirkburn|afkWell, if we just link to their's, we don't have to write anything ^^
06:49.44Sky2042time to ban the idiot
06:49.56Sky2042don't even look at the image he just uploaded, just delete it
06:50.05Sky2042which i guess means you have to look at it -_-
06:50.40Kirkburn|afkDone
06:51.14Sky2042funny user name for the picture he chose, eh?
06:51.24Sky2042certainly didn't look like assholes to me
06:51.25Sky2042>.>
06:51.26Sky2042<.<
06:55.26Sky2042i'm off... i need shower, and sleep
06:56.34Fisker-Skosiris
06:56.45Fisker-you've done some referrer stuff so we can't fetch icons from you anymore? :o
06:57.52Skosirisnop
06:58.03Kirkburn|afkVandals choose such obvious names
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06:58.13Kirkburn|afk"Exilezor" made a fake SM drop
06:58.28Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_chest_plate03.png <doesn't seem to load :o
06:58.39Fisker-just redirects me to the frontpage
06:58.49Fisker-<-stupid btw
06:59.06Skosiris.jpg
06:59.36Sky2042fisker-=fiskerq?
07:00.06Fisker-yeah yeah i got it Skosiris :P
07:01.35Kirkburn|afkUgh @ the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32837 comments
07:02.05Kirkburn|afkNot Fisker-'s obviously :P
07:02.41Skosiristhat's a lot of crap
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07:03.03Fisker-need moar +rating
07:03.33Skosirisyou have 2-3 more days to bash on these crappy comments until they get removed
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07:03.46Skosirisget their rating as low as possible :P
07:04.33Kirkburn|afkheh
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07:12.30Kirkburn|afkCaught that dude in the act again, Tekkub
07:12.43Tekkubthey never learn
07:13.12Pzykit's like
07:13.14Pzykshazzam!
07:13.30Pzykis there any way to put someone's contributions on watch?
07:14.36Tekkubno
07:15.32PzykI'm watching "the CM song" and I still have no idea whether I should laugh or be offended.
07:15.44Tekkubyou know... this is sad
07:15.57TekkubI /t the guy that introduced me to Red vs Blue...
07:16.05Tekkub"I am not a cockbite"
07:16.08Tekkubhe doesn't get it
07:16.27Pzykbut your mom is!
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07:17.56Aikanaronmsg/ nickserv identify escape4me
07:18.10Fisker-owned
07:18.27Aikanarondamn its early
07:18.31Pzykerr...
07:18.33Pzykhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Bearcoil ?
07:18.39Aikanaron:)
07:19.29Pzykdoesn't really simulate a death coil, nor have I ever heard this particular move called such.
07:22.18Kirkburn|afkDeletzored!
07:22.41Kirkburn|afkPzyk, was easier this way ^^
07:22.50Kirkburn|afkGoogle came up with nothing
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07:31.20TekkubI liked Bearcoil
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07:32.27TekkubI almost felt bad banning (not really) cause this guy knows I like dick in my asshole, my hobby is licking assholes, and that I'd let a bear bearcoil me all night long
07:34.09Pzykhmm. http://www.wowwiki.com/Gloves_of_Absolution
07:34.13Pzykare the gloves invisible?
07:34.52Kirkburn|afkyes, Tekkub, we get it, okay? :P
07:35.09Kirkburn|afkPzyk, errr ...
07:35.11Tekkub^^ let me have my fun
07:36.01Kirkburn|afk:P :P :P :P
07:36.12Kirkburn|afk^ you having you fun
07:36.16Kirkburn|afk*your
07:36.21Pzyk>_>
07:36.35Kirkburn|afkWhat? Whaaaaaat?
07:36.46Pzyknow I have bad images.
07:36.49PzykBAD.
07:36.59Tekkubbearcoil on the brain
07:37.07Pzykoh wait.
07:37.08Pzykhttp://mikk.cjb.net/fun/forum-troll/
07:37.35Tekkubnono, that's an extreeme offshoot of fisting
07:37.43Tekkubheading
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07:38.20AdysSkosiris!
07:41.10Skosiris!
07:45.12Kirkburn|afkNice - http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Lilduff90/The_Frozen_Kingdom
07:45.32Kirkburn|afkAdys, good morning
07:45.41Adyslo kirk
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07:51.41Adyssome really shit quality comics make the official website
07:51.42Adyshttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=161&Set=64
07:52.22Aonshilol
07:52.26AonshiThat is baaad
07:52.39Aonshiprevious one isn't bad though
07:53.09Kirkburn|afkOoh, Logitech SetPoint v4 is out for Vista
07:53.40Tekkublast time I fucked with setpoint I lost my keyboard and had to reinstall Wista
07:54.34Pzykhttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=160&Set=64
07:54.35Pzyklol
07:54.35Adyshttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=159&Set=64
07:55.44Skosirislol @ #159
07:56.00TekkubI like 159
07:56.04TekkubHe's cute
07:56.17Tekkubespecially the belly hair patch
07:56.19Skosirisare we supposed to assume the lil'girl is playing the orc, or that she's just repeating what he's saying?
07:56.26Kirkburn|afkI like how, despite holding a sword, he's going for the tauren with a cosh :/
07:56.29Tekkubshe's the player
07:56.48Kirkburn|afkFurbie!
07:57.21TekkubI bought a furby to try to teach it to cuss
07:57.25Tekkubfailed
07:57.52Tekkubit doesn't really learn, it's a "discovery" of preprogrammed "words"
08:05.07Kirkburn|afk:(
08:06.06Pac2722hey can any1 get onto wow?
08:07.04Kirkburn|afkEU?
08:07.15Pac2722yer
08:07.25Kirkburn|afkAnd the notice on the login page?
08:07.27Aikanaronhttp://www.g3l.com/b3ta/olympiclogo.gif
08:10.24Pzyk>_>
08:10.28Pac2722tysondavid99
08:10.57Pac2722woops rong irc
08:11.44Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.explosm.net/comics/919/
08:12.29Skosirislol
08:12.47Skosirishttp://www.electricretard.com
08:13.08Skosiris(viewer discretion strongly advised)
08:13.42Pzyk.
08:13.43PzykW
08:13.45PzykT
08:13.46PzykF
08:13.48Pzyk?
08:14.22TekkubTTF
08:15.00Tekkubbedtime
08:18.59Kirkburn|afkLOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bbc-goatse-olympics.jpg
08:19.07Kirkburn|afkThe BBC made somewhat of a slipup
08:19.25Kirkburn|afk(http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/06/shock_tactics.html)
08:19.30Pzykoh god
08:19.32Pzykoh god
08:19.48Kirkburn|afk:D
08:21.40Kirkburn|afkLol, the image is on several other sites as a proper image, including the Daily Telegraph (big UK newspaper)
08:21.58Kirkburn|afk(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Slideshow/slideshowContentFrameFragXL.jhtml;jsessionidMFS4JJW5HY0IZQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/06/05/logo/logopix.xml&site=arts)
08:22.20Pzykam I supposed to see the real london olympics symbol as a swastika?
08:22.30Pzykcause it looks nothing like it...
08:23.43Pzykgeez...
08:23.48Pzyk"The free newspaper London Lite, in its 5 June edition, printed a text from a reader pointing out the resemblance of the logo to Lisa Simpson performing oral sex. Numerous sources reported similar remarks being posted on blogs or article comments."
08:23.58Pzykhow the hell?
08:24.07Pzykoh crap.
08:24.52Kirkburn|afkwha? link?
08:24.52PzykI totally didn't see that coming from the logo
08:25.17Kirkburn|afkThat's just ... odd
08:25.36Pzykbut take a look at it
08:25.41Pzykhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics
08:25.42Kirkburn|afkAnd why Lisa Simpson? Because it's someone everyone knows, and young, thus making it sounds worse?
08:25.48Pzykno
08:25.54Pzykbecause it actually looks like it.
08:26.10Kirkburn|afkIt looks absolutely nothing like Lisa Simpson
08:26.17Pzykcome on, spiky head!
08:26.39Kirkburn|afkHardly
08:27.21Kirkburn|afkI'm just pointing out that the reason they ran with it is for the shock factor
08:27.25Pzykprobably
08:27.34Pzykbut it still looks like a blowjob
08:27.53Kirkburn|afk(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Lite)
08:27.58Kirkburn|afkThat I don't deny :P
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08:40.57Aikanaronhttp://www.g3l.com/b3ta/olympiclogo.gif
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08:41.12PzykI don't think it looks like it at all.
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08:53.32laurlydo we have user naming rules  this seams a bit ott to me http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/ILikeDicksInMyAsshole
08:53.45Pzykpretty sure we do.
08:53.52Pzykwhich is why he's banned.
08:54.49laurlythat would explain why what ever he added to my page was gone :)
08:55.09laurlylogin intesting thing to see first thing in themorning
08:55.09Pzykwell we probably reverted it before you saw it
08:55.46laurlywiki still listed i had a message
08:57.01Pzykyeah wiki just says that when any changes are made to your talk page
08:57.21Kirkburn|afklaurly, we didn't have a policy before, but we do know
08:57.30Kirkburn|afkI added a link to wikipedia's policy earlier :)
08:58.17Pzykreally we shouldn't need one.
08:58.41Adysspeaking of policies Kirkburn|afk
08:58.54Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:External_links#Wikipedia_interwiki_links
08:59.26Kirkburn|afkUseful!
09:00.24Adyshttp://www.mmogchart.com/Chart1.html heh
09:01.35laurlyPzyk yeah we shouldnt need to check the pages for ppl adding incorect info either :)
09:02.58laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Aggramar_Europe/Crafters/Tailoring you guys think i should change that to show the quality of the item or am i going over board?
09:03.23Adysit doesnt really matter
09:03.34Adysbut fix the Soulcloth Shoulders and Soulcloth Gloves
09:04.34Kirkburn|afkPity the sites not been updated for nearly a year :(
09:04.36laurlyyeah i want to go though all the crafting pages and just find the rare recipes
09:04.39Kirkburn|afk(MMOGChar)
09:04.42Kirkburn|afk*Chart
09:04.48Adysaye kirk
09:05.03Kirkburn|afkI can understand why, though, too much stuff to track
09:05.19laurlyits kinda nice ppl from the server have started to add there stuff
09:06.17Kirkburn|afkStormrage, oh, where are you, Stormrage
09:06.21laurlypoor everquest 2 didnt really have a chance
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09:08.41Adyshaha
09:08.48AdysIm checking up Wikipedia atm
09:08.50Adyshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Seoul_Namdaemun_gate_at_night.JPG
09:08.57Adysdoes that remind you of something..
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09:13.09Pzykare we supposed to see something?
09:13.24Adys"The main gate of Darnassus is based on the architectural design of Sungnyemun, an ancient gate located in Seoul, South Korea."
09:13.34Kirkburn|afkAha
09:13.37AdysI think thats awesome
09:13.38Kirkburn|afkYes, thought that was it
09:13.48Kirkburn|afkBtw, this is much better though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bbc-goatse-olympics.jpg
09:14.07Pzyksilly NEs.
09:14.09Adysseen it :P
09:18.23Adyslol
09:18.33Kirkburn|afkStormrage is up
09:18.54Adyshttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_World_of_Warcraft&action=history was about to revert the external links stuff and I got devanced
09:18.59AdysI feel weakened
09:19.33Adysno one's ever beaten me at reverting vandalism before :(
09:24.51laurlyhehe
09:30.52laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Servers  should i make a sub cat under servers for crafters so they all dont just pop in to servers thats a lot of aggramar pages
09:31.31Adysput it in Category:Server:Aggramar Europe laurly
09:31.38Adysor Aggramar US
09:34.15laurlyahh that does sound better
09:35.57laurlyonce i get the hole server thing tripple checked.  think i should turn it into boilerplats so other servers can use it?
09:47.58Mikksure
09:49.17Mikklaurly: Just yank {{Server_EU|PvE|English|Aggramar Europe}} from the bottom of the page
09:49.19Kirkburn|afkBtw, we had a vandal attack earlier today, so don't be surprised if he returns
09:49.25MikkThat's meant for the top server page, not subpages
09:54.10winkillerhuh. Aggramar EUrope server page mentioned
09:54.16winkillerdid I do sth wrong? :P
09:55.34Kirkburn|afkMy UI :) http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060607103346nl7.jpg
09:55.40laurlyyou playing with it win?
09:55.58winkillerno, but I made all recent changes before the breakup
09:56.04winkillerwhich I just noticed
09:56.20AdysMikk!
09:56.23laurlyyeah spent the day fixing it the other day
09:56.40MikkAdys!
09:56.44Mikklal
09:56.48laurlyif you know more about pvp then i do feel free to fix it winkiller
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09:57.14MikkAdys!
09:57.18winkillermhm, I don't really like the split
09:57.28laurly:P took me all day
09:57.29winkillerit was a short server page
09:57.32Adysmikk!
09:57.34AdysI got a house in greece
09:57.53winkillerunless it's crowded with text I see no real need, just lacking quick lookup now
09:58.11Mikklaurly: fixed http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Aggramar_Europe/Crafters/Leatherworking
09:58.21MikkAdys: bastidh
09:58.35AdysAthens
09:58.45laurlylooks nice mikk.
09:59.02MikkOh. I'm not so sure I'm envious now. Athens isn't my idea of vacationy :P
09:59.13laurlyi need to look it up so we only have lists of the rare patters and such no need to have the ones on trainers
09:59.18Adysits not mine either, but I got one there!
09:59.48MikkI'm off to a nice little town on the north coast of crete
10:00.04MikkNot too horribly commercial
10:00.07laurlynice weather mikk?
10:00.08MikkBut not too rural either =P
10:00.19MikkGreek guildies say it is
10:00.37MikkI'll know myself tomorrow morning
10:00.51Adysyou're swedish and you got greek guildies?!
10:00.56AdysYou could have been in my ex guild!
10:01.14AdysWe got 50% swedish 50% greek and 10% uk.
10:01.29Mikkheh
10:01.41MikkWild mix in my guild
10:02.09MikkGot english, scots, danes, norwegians, swedes, germans, austrians, dutch, belgians, greeks, bulgarians, arabs ...
10:02.20MikkProlly forgetting something
10:02.33MikkSouth african
10:03.06laurlyhmm should i be listing the ones that can be goten from reputation or just the rare bop world drop recipes
10:03.10MikkToo many scots if you ask me. At least ones from glasgow. Can't understand a word of what they say on vent :S
10:03.23Mikklaurly: high rep ones too imo
10:03.33Mikkrevered and up?
10:03.39laurlysounds like a plan
10:04.57laurlyoh now that i have some of the big guys here any way to make the icons for the recipes in http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Patterns/apprentice
10:05.04laurlysmalll like the ppl icons in http://www.wowwiki.com/Alchemy_trainers
10:09.58Mikki'm not sure i understand what you're asking
10:11.00Mikkyou want small icons in general?
10:11.31laurlyyeah see the size of the race icons. 1. they are small 2 mouse over gives a name
10:11.49laurlythe tailoring ones i did they are huge and they dont give the name of the item when you mouse over.
10:12.16laurlywould be nice if i could do 2X little picture of the item needed to make it
10:12.27Mikkoverkill
10:12.37laurlythats me :)
10:12.59Kirkburn|afk"Can't understand a word of what they say on vent" <--- neither can anyone else in the UK
10:13.02laurlyi made a script that builds that page so if i can figure out how to make the icons right only takes a minute to regenrate it
10:13.18Mikkthe image tag can take sizes
10:13.19Kirkburn|afkI doubt most Glaswegians understand each other
10:13.51laurlyit apears that each one of the race ones is its own template makes sence
10:16.30Mikklaurly_afk: [[Image:Trade_Tailoring.png|20px]]
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10:19.21Mikklaurly_afk: <span title="Woohoo text here"> [[Image:Trade_Tailoring.png|20px]]</span>
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10:20.45Kirkburn|afkMikk, what's that for?
10:22.03Boubouilleoh, drivercleaner popup on wowhead.
10:22.14BoubouilleI love advertising companies war.
10:23.20MikkKirkburn|afk: laurly wanted to know how to make images small and have mouseover texts
10:27.57Kirkburn|afkIt's works as a third argument to Image:, I thought
10:28.07Kirkburn|afki.e. [[Image:Trade_Tailoring.png|20px|Wohoo text here]]
10:30.06Mikksigh =)
10:31.55Kirkburn|afk:D
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10:38.08foxlitNo! Not SCEA! qq
10:39.05Kirkburn|afkwtf, WoW just silently locked my PC
10:39.28Kirkburn|afkNothing out of the ordinary ... it just ... stopped.
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11:34.09Kirkburn|afkWow, this is a cool video - http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1760812
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11:58.20TOR_CNRhi guys, sorry for the interuption, Wikia IRC gateway test under way :P
12:00.15KasoIRC gateway ?
12:00.21Kasosounds interesting
12:00.49TOR_CNRyeah, provided that it works :P
12:08.29[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/breakfast-topic-gambling-with-prospecting/
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12:16.13TOR_CNRok... should work within an hour or so. keep an eye on http://irc.wikia.com ;)
12:16.37TOR_CNRhappy gaming :)
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12:28.22KasoAdys, did i just DC you?
12:28.35Adysi tried to relink your stuff in /p :P
12:28.41Kasobad idea :>
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13:16.59laurly_afkmikk your little icon tip worked btw http://www.wowwiki.com/Major_Fire_Protection_Potion
13:19.24laurly_afki knew there was a boilerplate out there somewhere
13:19.56foxlitHm
13:20.04foxlit"Counts as Guardian elixir. "?
13:20.05laurly_afkhehe good thing i only did 4 :)
13:20.07foxlitIt's a potion!
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13:20.13foxlitAnd you can't use it and flasks?
13:20.18laurly_afkhmm was wondering about that as well
13:20.21KasoKasoBot, tooltip 22925
13:20.22KasoBotDoesn't appear to be an item at that ID.
13:20.28laurly_afkwhat about the 2 min cool down does that count?
13:20.42KasoKasoBot, tooltip 22841
13:20.43KasoBotDoesn't appear to be an item at that ID.
13:20.51Kasostupid kasobot
13:21.10foxlitKasoBot, tooltip 32846
13:21.21Kasohmm
13:21.28Kasoim getting HTTP 503 >.<
13:21.36foxlit503 Shoo?
13:21.52Kasohttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=22841
13:21.56Kasodoes that work for anyone else?
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13:45.21laurly_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Major_Frost_Protection_Potion  <-- better :)
13:47.37KasoLoose the big icon, not needed with the {[tooltip}}
13:48.40Kasoalso the |duration= isnt really needed.
13:49.30laurly_afkok
13:49.47laurly_afki keep doing something wrong the tooltip doesnt always float to the right
13:50.00Kaso|float={{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Major Frost Protection Potion|right|left}}
13:50.11Kasoit only floats to right if its on the page with the same name as the item
13:51.30laurly_afkahhh theres the bug then
13:52.59laurly_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Major_Nature_Protection_Potion  recipe isnt in the system :/
13:53.28Kasosec
13:53.32laurly_afkdo we need a TBC note at the top of these pages?
13:53.46KasoKasoBot, do 22922
13:53.46KasoBotAttempting to process itemID 22922
13:54.05foxlitHow about KasoBot, do Major Nature Protection Potion?
13:54.22KasoThen i gotta write code to get the Item ID from the name
13:54.26Kasoand thats extra work
13:54.34foxlitGot your code up somewhere?
13:54.47KasoBotYou Dont seem to have given a valid item id
13:54.52Kasonot at the moment, though im planning to.
13:54.54foxlitCan clone you a routine for that based on how you communicate with the armory :)
13:54.55Kasogrr
13:55.01KasoArmory is broken!
13:55.12foxlitWhy would it expose consumables, anyway?
13:55.24Kasocos it just does
13:55.38foxlitIntended?
13:55.54foxlitYou're probably better off pulling from somewhere like wowhead :P
13:56.19Kasoive had this debate before.
13:56.55KasoFirstly wowhead brings "licencing" issues into it, secondly i'd have to write a whole new parser cos wowhead use a different xml format, thirdly im lazy
13:57.14foxlittwo and three appear to be the same
13:57.56Kasotrue
13:58.24foxlit1 probably comes down to the same thing as well
13:58.43foxlitDoubt they'd mind terribly since they're pulling wiki content :)
13:58.56Kasotrue indeed
13:59.09Kasowhen i started though it was before all this.
13:59.12laurly_afkthat and the data is pritty genral its the same on thrott and wowhead
13:59.24Kasoat some point i might change my parser to wowhead, but we'll see
13:59.29laurly_afka potion is a potion the datas the same
14:00.13Kasolaurly_afk, the issue is you're using their formatted version of that data, and wow.allkazama at least want you to put "OMG DATA PROVIDED BY ALLAKZAMA, THEY SO AWESOME" whenever you use it, which we dont want
14:00.14laurly_afkkaso did you read my note about a bot to fix the guild categorie?
14:00.31Kasoi cant say i did
14:00.53laurly_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Bot_requests
14:01.45laurly_afkwas thinking last night the bot could probably put some kinda note on pages that dont have the required info IE server name and location of the server in the page itself.  big issue is finding the guilds that are disbanded and dumping them
14:02.58Kasocertainly would be a complicated setup
14:03.50laurly_afkyeah thats kinda why i put it in discussion easer to plan now how it will work then to have to redo it
14:04.46laurly_afkwhen i redid the tailoring recipes just made a php script that riped the data out of thrott.  this would end up being a bit bigger then that since it would have to monitor the categorie all the time to make sure ppl dont put stuff where it shouldnt be
14:08.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/around-azeroth-the-many-cogs-of-azeroth/
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14:49.12KasoKasoBot, do 22922
14:49.17KasoBotAttempting to process itemID 22922
14:49.44Kasolaurly_afk, finally made that Recipe:_Major_Nature_Protection_Potion page you wanted :>
14:55.35laurly_afkafter i did it :/
14:55.52laurly_afktell botly to go though all the recipes then :)
14:56.36Kasoim lazy!
14:56.52Kasofeel free to yourself, "KasoBot, do <item id>"
14:56.53KasoBotYou Dont seem to have given a valid item id
14:57.01Kasoquiet you!
14:57.07ApollozeusKasoBot, do 555
14:57.08KasoBotAttempting to process itemID 555
14:57.10Apollozeus:D
14:57.24laurly_afkhe putting the corect sorce for the recipe?
14:57.27Apollozeuslol
14:57.41Kasolaurly_afk, its just a fairly basic stub
14:58.07laurly_afksilly bot :)
14:58.25laurly_afkim going though them to find out where they come from
14:59.01Kasomy ideas behind it are that people are much more willing to add a few lines to a stub thats already there than they are to make a whole new itempage
14:59.02laurly_afkneed a break from http://www.wowwiki.com/Profession_trainers_by_skill
14:59.06Kasoso thats where kasobot comes in
14:59.26laurly_afkyeah does he use the itemboiler plate?  a lot of them arnt using it
15:00.09Kasoit used itemboilerplate, and it also tried (still a little buggy atm) to convert old tooltipcss pages to the new type as well
15:00.38laurly_afkhad any thoughts on the guild bot?
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15:01.28KasoWell i'd be happy to volunteer my WikiBot class to your cause, but thats written in lua so prob wont be much help, but aside from a simple wikibot core, you really gonna have to do alot of coding for it
15:02.09laurly_afkwell i can do php and VB havent tryed much on lua yet
15:02.36laurly_afkif i do it in php i can dump it on the server in cron tab to run if i do it in vb its going to have to be a services on my pc
15:05.12laurly_afkbig issue i see is figuring out what guilds are disbanded something like not edieted in more then a year its dump it
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15:21.02laurly_afkKasoBot, do 19973
15:21.49laurly_afkkaso fetch bot :)
15:22.11Kasoi had to switch to windows to fix my ipod
15:22.17Kasogtkpod was having a melt down
15:22.21Kasogive me 5min to relog
15:22.40laurly_afkcan he do npc's or just items?
15:22.53Kasojust items
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15:27.21Kasolaurly_afk, there you go
15:27.34laurly_afkwas an npc not an item :)
15:27.37Kaso|afkoh
15:27.42Kaso|afkwell its up anyway
15:27.43laurly_afkhe an eggbot or totaly lua?
15:27.55Kaso|afktotally lua
15:28.09laurly_afkimpresive
15:28.39Kaso|afkWell, lua is the language i know best, i dont want to learn a new language just to do one thing
15:29.14Kaso|afkwell ofc the LuaSockets package i use has some C-coded dlls but all my stuff is lua yes
15:29.16laurly_afksounds like me with php i made a bot in php a few years ago
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15:51.22jmeis the armory broke in safari for anyone else?
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15:51.53equiraptorHrm. It wasn't before they made the most recent changes.
15:52.07equiraptorUnfortunately, I'm at work and can't bring in my Mac, so I can't check.
15:54.29equiraptorWhat's the behavior?
15:54.29jmenone of the mouseovers work for items
15:54.29jmei need to install firefox and check it out
15:54.29[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/it-came-from-the-blog-invading-darkmoon-faire/
15:54.29ClydeJrI know on my crappy version if IE6, the tooltips show up but the new search for upgrade thing doesn't
15:55.36equiraptorHave you opened the activity window and seens if it's trying to download the content of those mouseovers?
15:55.39jmesame way with firefox here
15:55.52equiraptorEr, and seen if. I suck at typing today.
15:56.05Devilkoulworks for me
15:56.09Devilkoulin firefux
15:56.17equiraptorDevilkoul: On Mac or windows?
15:56.21Devilkoulwinblows
15:56.27equiraptorSometimes minor differences matter. :(
15:56.32Devilkoulyarr
15:56.56jmeworks in firefox on my mac, the find an upgrade doesn't work though
15:57.25equiraptorOh, nice.
15:57.28jmesafari's activity window doesn't spit anything out if i mouse over an item
15:57.45equiraptorYou have the page expanded?
15:57.52equiraptorIf it's an item you've already moused over, it won't.
16:03.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/wow-moviewatch-force-of-nature-bug/
16:06.15Kasothats a cool bug
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16:09.24laurly_afkLOL ouch
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16:28.51TecnoBratEU servers have their maintenance yet?
16:29.22Kasoyes
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16:31.29IKThi there
16:31.39Kasohi
16:33.11IKTjust thought I'd let you know I did a fairly major edit of nihilum's guild page, mostly on the topic of the fact kungen has never claimed he was the first to 70 or 60, i will speak to him a bit later about it, but i'm 99% sure
16:33.41IKTAlso there was a very mis-leading statement that nihilum doesn't accept females
16:34.04IKTi have quoted the wowradio interview and done a partial transcript to clear this up
16:34.39IKTand some other stuff like they didn't have the world first on every boss in the eye etc
16:35.05Kasoyou should write this onto the pages talk if you havent already
16:35.24IKThave done :)
16:42.43laurly_afkdoesn't accept females ..............
16:45.14IKT?
16:45.15Kaso"...we have one female currently, and there's no problem with her..."
16:47.24FISKER_Qoh the irony
16:47.38FISKER_QI told someone to sign his posts, and forgot to do it in the first place
16:48.01IKThow do you sign posts?
16:48.15Kaso--~~~~
16:48.28IKTo
16:48.47Kasowell, the -- isn't really needed
16:49.21FISKER_Qhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AServer%3ARavencrest_Europe%2FNotable_Characters&diff=681352&oldid=681340 ;D
16:49.37IKTi should probably thank you guys for the hard work you put in, i use wowwiki all the time, it's 2am again and I'm going to be dead tired again tomorrow =( <- australian
16:49.45IKTpeace :)
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16:50.30equiraptorYa know... It's kinda... Really important that you make sure you upload the right files and maintain the right security...
16:50.45equiraptorA similar accidental exposure of information left a few of my friends facing felony charges.
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17:04.47Apollozeuswhat the hell
17:04.48Apollozeushttp://www.wowwiki.com/Dricka_ol_o_ata_dvargar
17:05.44Kasosome swedish guild....
17:16.38Fisker-why delete it though?
17:16.46Fisker-why not move it?
17:17.42Gryphenno content
17:20.51zeeghrm
17:20.59zeegis Teomyr's name here Teomyr? :)
17:21.30Fisker-oh whyyyyyyyy Bibi`ouF?
17:24.15Bibi`ouFFisker- : what ?
17:31.55Fisker-that stupid fucking mace from illidan
17:32.03Fisker-it's barely better than the one from vashj
17:32.10Fisker-infact i'm gonna argue it's worse
17:32.22Jeremy2020welcome to TBC itemization
17:32.56Fisker-hehe yeah
17:33.00Fisker-Drops a helm from Hydross too
17:33.04Fisker-best healing item in teh game
17:33.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/the-pacing-of-the-new-endgame/
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17:38.51TecnoBratwow...
17:38.56TecnoBratthe armory is now an item database?
17:39.05TecnoBrathttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#item-info.xml?i=25538
17:39.31TecnoBrator am I daysbehind.com?
17:40.05claygdamn....and a good one
17:40.45TecnoBratI was looking at my armory
17:40.50TecnoBratand I hovered over an item
17:40.57TecnoBratand I found a "find an upgrade" link
17:40.59TecnoBratI was like .. wtf?
17:41.12TecnoBratand it gave me a list of upgrades ... with where to get them
17:41.26Gryphenya, saw that
17:41.29Gryphenpretty neat
17:41.58TecnoBratbut its a full item database, not quests tho yet
17:42.20TecnoBratunfortunately its all ajax, and doesnt support tabbing
17:42.26TecnoBratwhich pisses me off
17:43.25winkillerarmory also finally seems to work with FF for a week or so now
17:43.37TecnoBratalways did for me
17:43.39jmeeh, they broke safari
17:43.41TecnoBratI've never used IE
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17:44.15TecnoBratinteresting ...
17:44.18TecnoBratit uses your spec
17:44.23TecnoBratto detiremine the best gear
17:44.30winkillerI always used Opera just for Armory
17:44.34winkillerbecause it hated my FF
17:44.38TecnoBratthis is pretty damn awesome
17:44.43jmei don't even see the upgrade link
17:44.52TecnoBratUS armory maybe only .. dunno
17:44.54Gryphenits only on US
17:44.54winkilleryep
17:44.56TecnoBrathttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Avalius
17:45.05winkillerlooks nice
17:45.10TecnoBrathover over one of my shitty shaman items
17:45.15Kasohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30007 that item changed a fair bit in 2.1
17:46.03jmei'm on US too, the mouseover doesn't work for my armory or yours :(
17:46.14TecnoBratwhat browser?
17:46.18TecnoBratworks perfect in FF
17:46.28Gryphenworks fine in IE7
17:46.33jmefirefox, just downloaded it yesterday even.. weirdness
17:46.34TecnoBrathover over an item and there is a small arrow
17:46.42jmemaybe they just hate macs?
17:46.51TecnoBratoh possibly
17:48.17TecnoBratthey do some useragent voodoo
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17:48.33winkillerok, FF just died :P
17:48.46jmelawl @ my res sickness on my armory
17:48.56winkillerBlizzard web team aren't quite the smartest people. never really worked
17:49.01claygif you try to check and upgrade for a peice of scrub gear it doesn't even show how yours stacked up it just shows things you should be wearing (the range), but if you check a "good"(dont know if this is judged by blue or better) item you'll see it listed , like halfway in a list showing stuff under it also
17:49.02jmedied while i was running around stormwind solo last night
17:49.37Kaso!armory EU Genjuros Kaso
17:49.38[NewsBot]Kaso's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Genjuros&n=Kaso
17:50.18KasoHmm
17:50.22TecnoBratclay, yes, its just listing the "best items for that slot"
17:50.25Kasoso EU armory isnt fancy dancy new stuff
17:50.32clayglol same staff Kaso
17:50.36clayghow's it treating you
17:50.37TecnoBratin order
17:50.47Gryphenya Kaso, that is what US only means :)
17:50.53jme!armory US Stormreaver Kadrahil
17:50.55[NewsBot]Kadrahil's Armory Profile: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil
17:50.59jme<--
17:51.04Kasodidnt see anything about US only :<
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17:52.25clayganyone play wow on wine and also on windows?
17:52.50Kaso<PROTECTED>
17:53.01claygKaso, do you notice that you can't "zoom out" as far in wine?
17:53.28Kasoumm, i cant say ive ever noticed, but then again i cant say ive ever checked
17:53.42winkillerLOL the thing is a failureł
17:53.43claygregardless of screen res, it just seems that I can't make my toon small enough and see around me.  On a doze box I can zoom it out almost where it feels to far, but certainly enough to see a mob behind me.  I can't seem to get out far enough in wine
17:53.45Kasoare you sure you just dont have different Max Zoom settings for the two?
17:53.54winkillerit suggests Primalstrike Vest as best rogue chest availabe
17:53.55claygno
17:53.56winkillerLOL
17:54.05winkillerit fails badly
17:54.33claygI'll check that, it's been hard to play well
17:54.50laurly_afkthought playing wow on wine was considered thirdy party and banable
17:54.59Kasowhy would it?
17:55.02claygwinkiller you sure it's not just showing you the top of the next few you should shoot for?
17:55.32Gryphenmy top rogue chest is Wastewalker Tunic
17:55.34winkillerclayg: I started with assassination tunic. and it puts primalstrioke above T4 and the SSC Bloodsea Brigand one
17:55.36claygsomeone said that, i read and it looks like the one guy that got banned was using a keyboard that was programmable, then like an idiot says he uses it while he watches "a few movies"
17:56.25winkillerit's not bannable anymore
17:56.37Kasoi remeber there was something where alot of people got banned and a few claimed it was cos they used wine, but then again alot of people using wine didnt get banned so, i'd take the claims with a grain of salt
17:56.47winkilleror at least they unbanned you if you had proof of cedega usage
17:57.01claygI did read about cedega users taking a hit though
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17:58.13Kasoclayg, check cameraDistanceMaxFactor is the same in both your config.wtf
18:00.06claygkaso
18:00.15claygyou were right man thanks alot
18:00.29claygHell yeah, finally
18:01.30Kaso|afknp
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18:01.54winkillerWTF was the right abbrev to choose :)
18:02.21claygi wondered how they choose that
18:02.56Kaso|afkboringly its World of Warcraft Text File
18:03.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/baggy-mcbaggerbag-would-be-fine-too/
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18:13.03TecnoBratLooking at Kungen's profile, you can tell hes done all of the calculations for what kind of mitigation he needs
18:13.19TecnoBrat25.74% block, the perfect amount really
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18:22.20laurly_afkanyone remember the name of the addon that you could grab the dkp data from the sight and ppl could wisper you to find out how much dkp they had?
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18:38.28[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/ctprofiles-is-shutting-down/
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18:47.33TecnoBratthanks wow insider for last weeks news!
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19:03.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/bigredkitty-the-better-we-get-to-know-players-the-more-we-find/
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19:07.32Sandwichman2448I don't trust Hang10wannabe...
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19:37.12[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Raid tuning, new armory, comics. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=274.0
19:38.49Fisker-btw i lol'd Bibi`ouF
19:38.57Fisker-Tigole just got raped
19:39.23Sandwichman2448Where?
19:41.55Sandwichman2448:(
19:42.23Bibi`ouFFisker- : whare ?
19:42.23foxlit"and made the Well of Eternity a bad place for casters to be near." :(
19:42.24Bibi`ouFon EJ ?
19:43.36Fisker-(21:37:09) <[NewsBot]> MMO Champion: Raid tuning, new armory, comics. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=274.0
19:44.34Bibi`ouFoh, you mean, about "RAID IS PERFECTLY TUNED" on EJ.
19:44.44Sandwichman2448I see no rapeing
19:45.17Kasowhat does that mean then i wonder
19:45.23Fisker-Obvious conflict about Blizzard vs. Tigole or Daelo vs. Tigole
19:45.26Fisker-and that's fail
19:45.29Kasosome exploit from casters swimming or something
19:47.31Sandwichman2448I missed something...
19:48.27[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/blizz-increases-difficulty-of-hyjal-and-black-temple/
19:55.19Devilkoulhahaha
19:55.19Sandwichman2448I never get any jokes...
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19:56.37Sandwichman2448Hello
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20:03.28[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/new-wow-site-for-non-combat-pets/
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20:41.12MatthewShey folks, question for you all
20:41.31Pzyhum?
20:41.52MatthewShow often do people change images on the site? not upload new images, but overwrite old ones?
20:42.07Pzyprobably not that much]
20:47.05vlad_not that often I don't think
20:47.19vlad_most images have just 1 rev.. should be easy to check in the db though
20:47.32vlad_you thinking of doing more aggressive caching for images?
20:47.43Gryphenadys has a thing about deleting old revisions
20:48.05Pzymore like OCD
20:48.09Gryphenya
20:48.22Gryphenkind of not the spirit of a wiki
20:49.41MatthewSwas thinking of setting up worldwide caching of the site
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20:51.58Gryphenif you look at upload log, you can see a lot of upload once, and then upload again a few min later. people dont seem to get it right on the first try.
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20:52.28MatthewSyeah, that's the problem im expecting to run into
20:52.49MatthewSwe've started offloading some of the wikia wiki's onto this cache network
20:53.18MatthewSbut the image get's cached on first view and the changed view takes a while to appear
20:54.28MatthewSid love to put wowwiki onto this caching system as it would speed up the site for non-North America users
20:54.34MatthewSbut there's a few snags
20:55.27MatthewSmost images take 2 hours to refresh, which is a little excessive for people doing a few uploads
20:56.23Pzyis there any possible way to do a manual refresh?
20:57.18MatthewSsort of, we implemented a hook to speed up the refresh, but it still takes a few minutes
21:00.28MatthewShmm, think a 12 hour test tonight would work?
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21:02.13Grypheni dont see why not
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21:05.06Pzylooking at the upload logs
21:05.24Pzythere's about 20 uploads a day, and maybe 1 reupload a day
21:06.44Pzybut would a reupload still show the old image after a change?
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21:06.45MatthewSyes
21:07.39Pzybah
21:07.56Pzyhopefully we won't run into the situation of a person constantly trying to reupload an image
21:08.11Pzyjust because he didn't see it change. >_>
21:09.57MatthewSyeah, need a note in the upload page. ill track that down
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21:20.15MatthewSok, put a note on the village pump
21:35.58MatthewSgrr, tekk, i got your messages, but i cant register to respond for some reason
21:36.21MatthewSbut basically, im trying to get people freed up to do a 1.10 migration next week and would like to wait on throwing more tools/code into the mix till the migration is actually done.
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22:00.35Adysgood day
22:03.27Tekkubmmm... armory shows drop source and fuzzy droprates
22:03.34Tekkubkasobot needs an upgrade :)
22:03.37Pzyfuzzy?
22:03.48Tekkub"Rare" "Low"
22:03.54Pzylame.
22:04.07Tekkubnah, fuzzy is more than adequate
22:04.14Tekkubdon't need to know exact anyway :P
22:04.46PzyI do. T_T
22:05.37TekkubI think it's time to edit elinks-item
22:05.37Tekkubhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#item-info.xml?i=17044
22:05.37Tekkub:)
22:05.51TecnoBratzeeg, http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/2/en/details/13086/
22:05.56TecnoBratnote the bullets :)
22:06.08TecnoBrat"General* Arena and Honor Rewards"
22:06.19Pzyerghh
22:06.23TecnoBratArena and Honor Rewards is supposed to be on another bullet
22:06.35Pzyit doesn't say source on the main item page
22:06.40Pzyor am I missing it somewhere?
22:07.08Kirkburn|afkTekkub, good point
22:07.20Tekkubthat one doesn't have drop info
22:07.23Kirkburn|afkFirst of the 4
22:07.24Pzyoh below
22:07.49Tekkubhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#item-info.xml?i=13344
22:07.53Kirkburn|afk(since official > fan, despite its slowness)
22:07.53Tekkubthere's one with drop info
22:08.16PzyForce of Nature: This spell will no longer causes players it is cast on to enter combat with nearby creatures. All of the treants summoned will now attack a neutral creature they are summoned on.
22:08.18Pzyaww
22:08.40Pzythat was the coolest spell ever. >_>
22:13.23laurly_afkhehe
22:15.03TekkubArmory goodness added
22:15.30Gryphenya
22:15.42Gryphennice
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22:16.33TecnoBratThe trinkets for all classes now have the same effect: Dispels all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control of your character.
22:20.38foxlit<Pzy> Force of Nature: This spell will no longer causes players it is cast on to enter combat with nearby creatures. All of the treants summoned will now attack a neutral creature they are summoned on.
22:20.39foxlitqq!
22:21.31foxlitTellib: hashsign is not supposed to be in that url :)
22:22.00Gryphenfixed
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22:23.36PzyTechnoBrat: what? are you serious?
22:24.07Pzysounds too much like the homogenization of abilities....
22:26.09Kasoi cant see a reason against pzy
22:26.46TecnoBratso its an instant anti-cc that works equally through all classes .. bad thing?
22:27.29Kasohow the trinket should have been since introduction imo
22:27.41TecnoBratagreed
22:27.56Pzy*shrugs*
22:28.04Kasothough...
22:28.05TecnoBratwhats wrong with it?
22:28.08Kasodoes that mean horrify?
22:28.16TecnoBratpossibly
22:29.08PzyI wouldn't use it on death coil
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22:29.28Pzybetter to use it on the first fear
22:29.47TecnoBratmmmmmmmmmm
22:29.47TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32500
22:29.49TecnoBratSEXY'
22:30.06TecnoBratthat is amazing
22:30.48TecnoBrat....
22:30.49TecnoBratokay
22:30.57TecnoBratI need help .. what the hell is this? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32854
22:31.11Tusvait's a hamma
22:31.22Pzyret weapon.
22:31.31TecnoBrat65 dps ret weapon?
22:31.34TecnoBratgood luck
22:31.37Pzywrong.
22:31.44Pzyret pallies = all +spl
22:31.44Tusva+157 spdmg
22:31.46TecnoBrathave fun being below the tank
22:31.55TecnoBrat2.2 speed?
22:31.57Pzyunless you're a BE pally.
22:31.57Tusvaret pallies != mass dps
22:32.03TecnoBratdude, its useless
22:32.13TecnoBratany ret paladin that uses that is an idiot
22:32.25ClydeJrping Tekkub/Gryphen: are the elinks-item changes working? I'm getting bad pages when I use it
22:32.27Tusvamm
22:32.33TecnoBratcrusader strike is still heavily based on weapon damage
22:32.37TecnoBratso is SoC
22:32.37Tekkubworks for me, you're broken
22:32.49Tusvaplus holy damage
22:32.55Tusvawhich is spell damage
22:32.57Gryphenare you trying on cached pages that have the # in the url?
22:33.03TecnoBratyes, plus holy damage, 40% of it ...
22:33.04PzySoC always favored spell damage.
22:33.32ClydeJrnaw, usiing ones without it
22:33.32PzyYou get more out of spell damage than pure weapon damage.
22:33.34foxlitTempest Keep: Mechanar* Nethermancer Sepethrea's Raging Flames should now periodically change their targets in Heroic mode.
22:33.39foxlitlose!
22:33.44Gryphendoes the item exist on the armory?
22:34.02ClydeJritem-info.xml is not returning anything. item-tooltip.xml is. I am using IE6 so that could be the prob
22:34.15Pzywell better than having your healer running around like a beheaded chicken the entire fight
22:34.17Tekkubthere's also boss and zone tables in the armory
22:34.27Pzythough three elementals is still a bit excessive.
22:35.14ClydeJrtry http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=23507. I get a "The XML page cannot be displayed " error when I go there
22:36.23foxlitI actually did that recently
22:36.23foxlitTo be fair, druids have it easy with moving and healing
22:36.23GryphenClydeJr that works fine for me in IE7
22:36.24Pzyyay
22:36.24Pzyarmory froze firefox.
22:36.53Pzygreat stuff
22:36.53Tekkubarmory is slow as fuck
22:37.00zeegya it is
22:37.02ClydeJrok probably just this old browser. I'll try IE7 when I get home. I'm noticing that I don't get the search for item upgrade stuff either on armory
22:37.19Tekkubsomeone *kaso* needs a bot that puts this new shit in the wiki :)
22:37.47Kasowhich new shit?
22:37.49TecnoBratOkay, 40% of 157 = 63 damage. Add 63 damage to 97-192, still worse than 1 swing without spell damage from http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28441. Also SoC has a 20% spell coefficient, so you get an extra 32 damage per SoC proc .. since its a proc per min, NOT %, the deep thunder is still MILES better
22:37.49Gryphen?
22:37.52Gryphennew stuff?
22:37.53ClydeJrthanks for looking at that, later
22:37.54zeegwhy put it in the wiki when theres 12 item databases
22:37.59zeegseems like a waste of time
22:38.20Gryphenseems like a waste of time for curse to make a db when there already is one
22:38.23Gryphen:p
22:38.26Tekkubit's our time to waste
22:38.30TecnoBratso that weapon is totally DE fodder.
22:38.39Pzyhow about...
22:38.43zeegGryphen: ours is diff :)
22:38.45Pzythat weapon is an item level 100?
22:38.52Pzyand deep thunder is ilvl 123?
22:39.01zeegGryphen: think of it like.. a built in db to wowwiki combined w/ all of our other crazy stuff
22:39.14Tekkubyes... "crazy"
22:39.18Gryphento much
22:39.30zeegwe had to have it for profiling so
22:39.36Tekkubputting it in the wiki is the reason as curse's... to keep users at our site
22:39.57TecnoBratPzy, fine .. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31318
22:39.59TecnoBratstill better
22:40.11TecnoBrathell, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30088 is better
22:42.00KasoSo...
22:42.26zeegTekkub: ya but its all manually done just seems a waste
22:42.29Kasowhere is armory getting the ilvl + sell price from, it aint on http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=
22:42.38TekkubI didn't ever say manually
22:43.01Tekkub*points at KasoBot*
22:43.15TekkubKaso.... http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#search.xml?searchType=items&fl[source]=dungeon&fl[difficulty]=normal&fl[boss]=21214
22:43.16Tekkub:)
22:43.39TekkubBoss pages good, and much much fewer of them to do than item tooltips
22:43.59Gryphensame place item-tooltip gets its info?
22:44.11Gryphenitem-tooltip isnt the origin
22:44.36Gryphenit is selective information
22:44.44PzyI can't find that item anywhere else.
22:45.53Pzydoesn't exist anywhere outside wowhead.
22:46.14Tekkubbuggerfuck, the boss links have [ ] in em and it implodes in wiki code
22:46.26Devilkoulhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/108306167.htm
22:46.26Devilkoulrofl
22:46.38Gryphencant search for apostrophes in armory either
22:46.42Gryphenbreaks
22:46.46TecnoBratPzy, probably ptr.
22:46.57Pzywhat ptr?
22:46.58Adyswe should create a separate pump for server issues and news
22:47.09Adysjust an opinion
22:47.24Adysyaaawwwnn
22:47.26Adysoff to bed
22:47.27Adysnn peeps
22:48.40Pzysnap.
22:48.45TecnoBratPzy, the ptr I linked the patch notes about
22:48.53TecnoBratand the ptr you commented on those patch notes
22:48.55TecnoBratthat ptr
22:49.54PzyThere are no PTRs available at this time. Please check www.wow-europe.com for updates on when the next Test Realms will be up.
22:50.38Pzyguess there are some US ones.
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22:55.39[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Diablo III confirmation? - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1424
22:55.39[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Battle.net - Diablo II Trading Forums - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1423
22:56.23Pzylol.
22:56.34Pzythat's sooooo stretching it.
22:57.13[NewsBot]MMO Champion: 2.1.2 PTR Patch released. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=275.0
22:57.28WyriHaximus3rdlol goes fast
23:00.00Kirkburn|sleepI'm off to bed
23:00.05WyriHaximus3rdgoodnight
23:00.13WyriHaximus3rdme to aswell :)
23:00.18Kirkburn|sleepToodles!
23:00.24WyriHaximus3rdcya
23:01.50Kirkburn|sleepDruids in Swift Flight form can no longer loot herb nodes. :D
23:03.07Pzyshhhh
23:03.20Pzynot listening lalalala~~~
23:03.28[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/06/ptr-patch-2-1-2-tonight/
23:15.51Bibi`ouFold.
23:17.37Pzyhey, is there any such thing as a RSS feed for the recent changes page?
23:17.44Gryphenyes
23:17.49Gryphenclick rss feed on the menu
23:18.40Pzyooh
23:20.11winkillerhehe
23:26.44Pzyugh
23:27.37Pzyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Dragons_Elite_%28Steamwheedle_Cartel_US%29
23:28.13Pzycan I get an admin to make the guy stop for a sec?
23:36.50Tekkubhe's been warned :P
23:37.00Tekkubkeeps it up please flag as vandal
23:38.37Tekkub"WoWWiki currently contains 33,785 articles."   "The job queue length is currently 40,920."
23:38.41Tekkubmuahahahahaha
23:39.03Gryphenhehe
23:39.29Gryphenya i looked after i did the two item edits following yours and it was 33k
23:39.53Tekkub:)  wiki's gonna get completely overwritten :)
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23:43.52FtH|Daemonai feel so fucking nerfed :( i want to keep swordspec as it is.
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23:46.54KasoFtH|Daemona whats wrong with the sword spec change?
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23:53.52Devilkoulpretty sure its still affected by enrage n shit now
23:53.55Devilkoulthey just made it white again
23:54.04Devilkoulhope they didnt revert that
23:54.07Devilkoulfrom 2.1
23:55.12Devilkoulfrom 2.1: "Sword Specialization: This ability now grants extra yellow attacks instead of extra white attacks. It also grants rage based on the speed of your weapon. This change will make Sword Specialization no longer reset the weapon swing timer when it triggers off special attacks, and results in a net increase in damage dealt. "
23:55.20Devilkoulso they just nurfed it back
23:56.52Devilkoulso no change its just white
23:56.53Devilkouli think
23:57.07KarrionDevilkoul: the main benefit of the 2.1 change was that it no longer reset the swing timer, they _claim_ that it still won't in 2.1.2
23:57.07Devilkouland rage isnt based on speed
23:57.11Devilkoulye
23:57.13Devilkoulexactly
23:57.52Devilkoulso 2.1.2 just changes it to white and changes how rage is gen
23:57.53FtH|Daemonamaking it white
23:57.56FtH|Daemonawill make it GLANCE
23:58.06Karrionhmm true
23:58.22FtH|Daemonaits a defacto 6.x% nerf to swordspec dmg
23:58.32FtH|Daemonawhich is atm 10% of my overall dmg
23:58.47FtH|Daemonaso effectively i look at a ~1% dps nerf
23:58.48FtH|Daemona:(
23:59.22Devilkoulye

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