| 00:00.50 | Kirochi | if he lives in Mt Karajo I truly hope that means we'll be able to track him |
| 00:00.50 | Kirochi | and KILL him |
| 00:00.50 | Kirochi | yaarr a pirate's life for me |
| 00:00.54 | Kirochi | hunt dragons and plunder elven ships |
| 00:01.04 | Bagginsww | Well, to quote Shadows and Light |
| 00:02.50 | Bagginsww | Deathwing has been absent from his lair for several years. No one is certain where he has gone or if he has in fact been slain. The remaining black dragons of his flight are now engaged in a battle for dominance over one another. |
| 00:02.55 | Bagginsww | pg 93 |
| 00:03.16 | Bagginsww | only problem with that quote is its very unclear which lair they are speaking of :p |
| 00:03.28 | Bagginsww | his one in Azeroth? ...or the one in Outland? |
| 00:04.21 | Kirochi | yay, but do we know another lair of his ? |
| 00:04.47 | Kirochi | except for the one in Outland, I mean |
| 00:05.21 | Bagginsww | that's the main one we have ever known about |
| 00:05.39 | Bagginsww | oddly its never been mentioned outside of WArcraft II manual and game as far as I know |
| 00:05.52 | Skyfire | you mean, the island, i assume? |
| 00:05.54 | Bagginsww | right |
| 00:06.01 | Kirochi | yup |
| 00:06.03 | Kirochi | so |
| 00:06.05 | Kirochi | ... |
| 00:06.10 | Kirochi | nothing's for sure |
| 00:06.14 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 00:06.26 | Kirochi | have you read LoM where they speak 'bout Mt Karajo ? |
| 00:06.34 | Kirochi | can I post it here otherwise ? |
| 00:06.47 | Bagginsww | and waro fhte ancients trilogy talks abou this Azeroth Lair |
| 00:06.50 | Bagginsww | right? |
| 00:07.05 | Bagginsww | the one where he's taken care of by Goblins :p |
| 00:07.11 | Kirochi | yes, but it's very vague |
| 00:07.25 | Kirochi | "in the middle of the mountains" |
| 00:07.42 | Kirochi | it could be on KM, or Azeroth, or Kalimdor ... |
| 00:07.55 | Kirochi | so, Karajo |
| 00:07.56 | Kirochi | are you prepared ? |
| 00:07.56 | Kirochi | Mount Kajaro: Mount Kajaro is the most |
| 00:07.56 | Kirochi | recognizable mountain on the island, and is a |
| 00:07.56 | Kirochi | landmark for ships and flying travelers. It is a |
| 00:07.57 | Kirochi | volcano, and still active. Kajaro is sacred to Kezan’s |
| 00:07.57 | Kirochi | jungle trolls, and it is their last holdout on the |
| 00:07.59 | Kirochi | island. They have one small settlement near the |
| 00:08.01 | Kirochi | mountain: Voodress Village. Kajaro’s volcanic and |
| 00:08.03 | Kirochi | tectonic activity created the tunnels that house |
| 00:08.05 | Kirochi | Undermine. |
| 00:08.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Load a wiki page, and look at the title bar :) |
| 00:09.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Tell me if you notice anything new |
| 00:10.31 | Kirochi | "on wikipedia" ? |
| 00:10.45 | Skyfire | lol kirk |
| 00:10.55 | Skyfire | :) |
| 00:11.17 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Pagetitle&curid=30732&diff=590562&oldid=590559 |
| 00:11.42 | Bagginsww | Deathwing's Lair, Deathwing has been absent from his lair for several years.S&L 93(Which lair? Azeroth or Outland) |
| 00:12.01 | Skyfire | he didn't have a lair on Azeroth, did he? |
| 00:12.03 | Bagginsww | added that to the current location speculation |
| 00:12.08 | Bagginsww | ya he did |
| 00:12.13 | Skyfire | which? |
| 00:12.19 | Skyfire | ick; where? |
| 00:12.29 | *** join/#wowwiki Psyker7 (n=Psyker7@203.28.246.152) |
| 00:12.31 | Bagginsww | its discussed vaguely in War of the Ancients trilogy |
| 00:12.35 | Bagginsww | we only know it had goblins in it |
| 00:12.39 | Skyfire | ah |
| 00:12.44 | Bagginsww | thus why the rumor of mount kajaro |
| 00:12.48 | Tekkub | but that might have been lost in the sundering |
| 00:12.49 | Skyfire | ah |
| 00:12.55 | Skyfire | as could have the island in outland |
| 00:13.05 | Skyfire | they've both undergone cataclysmic events. |
| 00:13.09 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 00:13.17 | Skyfire | draenor* |
| 00:13.29 | Bagginsww | anycase I can't think of any source that ever specifically refers to his outland experiences in warcraft II |
| 00:13.50 | Bagginsww | thus leaving a big question as to which lair they are speaking of :p |
| 00:14.03 | Bagginsww | there is talking of his azeroth lair in random places |
| 00:14.10 | Bagginsww | I mean random paragraphs throughout books |
| 00:14.10 | Skyfire | baggins, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Guldanmetzen.JPG comes from wc2 or wc1? |
| 00:14.23 | Bagginsww | wc2 |
| 00:14.24 | Skyfire | k |
| 00:14.34 | Bagginsww | I pulled it from the pdf file |
| 00:14.50 | Bagginsww | imo its best image of him we have |
| 00:15.08 | Skyfire | yeh |
| 00:15.13 | Kirochi | aw cuddly orc -_- |
| 00:15.20 | Kirochi | *_* |
| 00:15.42 | Skyfire | i don't like how the images on the page look though, as they're all out of alignment with when |
| 00:16.35 | Skyfire | ah, so that's what the blocked page looks like. |
| 00:16.56 | Bagginsww | (switched images; TGC art has a smoother look) -ragestorm |
| 00:17.00 | Bagginsww | pfft |
| 00:17.03 | Skyfire | i prefer it too |
| 00:17.14 | Bagginsww | I'd prefer a better scan of it |
| 00:17.22 | Skyfire | ofc, i prefer the manga picture to both :) |
| 00:17.25 | Bagginsww | or hunt down the original verson of it |
| 00:17.46 | Bagginsww | anycase have to say she's most wicked in that picture |
| 00:17.46 | Skyfire | can someone hand out a ban for http://www.wowwiki.com/User:SideShowMel0329 just vandalized a server page |
| 00:17.59 | Kirochi | ouch my eyes |
| 00:18.09 | Kirochi | too much pics on http://www.wowwiki.com/Sylvanas_Windrunner |
| 00:18.31 | Kirochi | I think we should start "Gallery" pages |
| 00:18.56 | Skyfire | you mean, image categorys? |
| 00:18.57 | Skyfire | -_- |
| 00:19.07 | Kirochi | :P |
| 00:19.08 | Bagginsww | personally don't like the style in the ccg. |
| 00:19.24 | Kirochi | tis been done before, hasn't it ? |
| 00:20.07 | Skyfire | wtb ban for above user, pst |
| 00:20.16 | Skyfire | cost negotiable |
| 00:20.19 | Bagginsww | scan quality of that card art is horrible, it looks blurred and flat on my monitor |
| 00:20.20 | *** join/#wowwiki Laraul (i=dustin@ip68-105-130-166.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:20.57 | Kirochi | I’m a dwarf, not an icicle |
| 00:20.57 | Kirochi | — my skin isn’t supposed to be blue! |
| 00:21.11 | Skyfire | Tecnobrat, whatcha doin? |
| 00:22.53 | Bagginsww | skyfire how bad was the vandalism, and what type? |
| 00:23.11 | Skyfire | just cleared the page, added a vulgar message |
| 00:23.25 | Bagginsww | ok, seems like the kind that's worth of infinban |
| 00:23.31 | Kirochi | "OLOLOL FUX YOU G33KZ" or such ? |
| 00:23.33 | Laraul | anyone know what's in the 2.1.10 patch? |
| 00:23.34 | Skyfire | hehe |
| 00:23.49 | Bagginsww | pure vandalism |
| 00:23.52 | Skyfire | is 2.1.0 even out yet? |
| 00:23.54 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 00:23.57 | Gryphen | lots of stuff Laraul |
| 00:24.26 | Kirochi | read the forums, jeez. You won't find any kind of underground info there :P |
| 00:24.42 | Skyfire | you rarely find it there either |
| 00:24.50 | Skyfire | you have to go looking on an external website to find it, usually |
| 00:26.45 | Kirochi | I just can't read Brann's writings on Northrend |
| 00:27.02 | Kirochi | omg his brother died here. So atrocious |
| 00:27.41 | Bagginsww | alot of stuff about northrend is depressing |
| 00:28.10 | Kirochi | yep, but the rednex that have died there don't have family that have written LoM |
| 00:28.49 | Kirochi | I must admit that I'm sadder for the Dwarves than for the Humans |
| 00:28.53 | Kirochi | no reason why |
| 00:29.23 | Skyfire | Lol |
| 00:29.24 | Kirochi | they've travelled a shitload of miles to stand and be killed for the Alliance |
| 00:29.35 | Skyfire | ragestorm moved the names section back to the bottom of the article |
| 00:30.03 | Kirochi | Skyfire what's your aka on WoWwiki ? |
| 00:30.20 | Skyfire | Sky2042 |
| 00:30.27 | Skyfire | :] |
| 00:30.32 | Kirochi | woaw |
| 00:30.48 | Skyfire | woaw? |
| 00:30.50 | Kirochi | born the 42nd of the 20th month ? |
| 00:30.53 | Kirochi | :p |
| 00:30.59 | Skyfire | uh... not quite |
| 00:31.01 | Skyfire | guess again! |
| 00:31.09 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 00:31.15 | Skyfire | guess i should add that to my user page |
| 00:31.16 | Gryphen | it's his locker combonation |
| 00:31.33 | Kirochi | you ... created that account at 20:42 ? |
| 00:31.43 | Skosiris | Skyfire was born in 2042 and is from the future |
| 00:31.45 | Bagginsww | Wyrmrest Temple (Dragonblight), "The ancient black dragon Deathwing returns to Northrend. He lands in the Dragonblight, at the foot of Wyrmrest Temple, and announces that he is close to death and wishes to end his life here with others arleady present."LoM 101 |
| 00:31.49 | Skyfire | nope |
| 00:31.52 | Skyfire | try again! |
| 00:32.39 | Gryphen | It's his super smash bro high score |
| 00:32.40 | Bagginsww | Hmm, someone forgot utland :p |
| 00:32.59 | Skyfire | LOL GYRPHEN |
| 00:33.03 | Skyfire | yeah, i know |
| 00:33.12 | Skyfire | redundant info, imo |
| 00:33.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I have questions! Go to an edit page and tell me what you think of my changes |
| 00:34.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, comments then? |
| 00:34.39 | Kirochi | Bagginsww |
| 00:34.42 | Skyfire | red text maybe kirk |
| 00:34.45 | Skyfire | instead of bolded |
| 00:34.46 | Kirochi | that's a quest, right |
| 00:34.53 | Skyfire | "Do not sumbit copyrighted images or text without permission!" |
| 00:35.04 | Gryphen | iconify |
| 00:35.07 | Skyfire | yar |
| 00:35.20 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing#Current_location |
| 00:35.26 | Bagginsww | I think that's about as complete as possible |
| 00:36.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, that's sad, I remember the icon's name |
| 00:36.55 | Kirochi | BAGGINS |
| 00:36.55 | Kirochi | That's only a quest |
| 00:36.58 | Skyfire | yes |
| 00:36.59 | Skyfire | it is |
| 00:37.05 | Skyfire | but it's a wow quest |
| 00:37.05 | Kirochi | it's not happened and will only happen in the imagination of a crazy GM |
| 00:37.13 | Bagginsww | yep, "rumor", and its silly |
| 00:37.18 | Skyfire | uh... |
| 00:37.19 | Skyfire | nvm |
| 00:37.29 | Bagginsww | I don't consider it every becoming official ;) |
| 00:37.31 | Bagginsww | *ever |
| 00:37.50 | Bagginsww | you did notice the big speculation banner over that section right? |
| 00:37.58 | Kirochi | otherwise I woulda been the first to loot one of HIS scales |
| 00:38.04 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.20 | Kirochi | Bagginsww yeah, maybe too big for me, been blinded by it |
| 00:38.46 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 00:38.49 | Bagginsww | same |
| 00:38.53 | Skyfire | ok, question |
| 00:39.07 | Bagginsww | anycase, funny thing is adventure seeds in brann books are "rumors" he's heard LOL |
| 00:39.27 | Bagginsww | just camp fire tales |
| 00:39.42 | Bagginsww | He mentions this in one of the forwards of his books, Lands of Conflict I think |
| 00:40.47 | Skyfire | a penny for your thoughts, TecnoBrat |
| 00:40.54 | Bagginsww | ok what happened to the WArcraft Advetures section? |
| 00:41.05 | Bagginsww | and screenshot... |
| 00:41.37 | Kirochi | wth is tecnobrat ? |
| 00:41.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing |
| 00:41.49 | Bagginsww | who removed it? |
| 00:42.02 | Kirochi | aw, sorry, obvious >< |
| 00:42.07 | Skyfire | blame kirkburn |
| 00:42.09 | Skyfire | it wasn't me |
| 00:42.12 | Kirochi | !seen TecnoBrat |
| 00:42.29 | Bagginsww | looking to see I didn't accidnetly wipe it myself :p |
| 00:42.53 | Kirochi | aw |
| 00:42.58 | Kirochi | 2:40 |
| 00:43.13 | Kirochi | I must get up at 9 tomorrow |
| 00:43.17 | Bagginsww | looks like it might have been kirkburn when he was reordering stuff |
| 00:43.23 | Skyfire | eh, just go back to the last edit before today |
| 00:43.37 | Kirochi | I must be leaving |
| 00:43.38 | Skyfire | copy+paste |
| 00:43.40 | Skyfire | n |
| 00:43.42 | Skyfire | ite |
| 00:43.51 | Kirochi | bye, I'll stay in idle mode on the channel |
| 00:44.31 | Kirochi`away | if you need me somehow, type Kirochi or Kiro. It makes mIRC yell the murloc aggro sound :P |
| 00:44.36 | TecnoBrat | who .. what uh yea? |
| 00:44.40 | Bagginsww | fixed it :p |
| 00:44.49 | Skyfire | lol |
| 00:45.01 | Skyfire | just wonderin what ure doin techno |
| 00:45.04 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing#Thrall.27s_Encounter_with_Deathwing |
| 00:45.12 | Skyfire | ooo |
| 00:45.13 | Skyfire | creative |
| 00:45.16 | TecnoBrat | Oh, editing the Korgath US page |
| 00:45.44 | Kirochi`away | :P |
| 00:45.50 | Kirochi`away | Shisha smoking Deathwing |
| 00:45.59 | Kirochi`away | and shimmerweed? Why not |
| 00:46.04 | Bagginsww | I love it |
| 00:46.06 | Skyfire | go to bed man |
| 00:46.11 | Skyfire | lol |
| 00:46.13 | Bagginsww | still thinks original story would have been awesome |
| 00:46.16 | Kirochi`away | I'm on my way |
| 00:46.24 | TecnoBrat | It was a server filled from transfers .. so I'm trying to take the guild list template ... edit it a bit to be able to include the server tranfered from .. as I think that is cool information. |
| 00:46.27 | Bagginsww | it was supposed to have had a great sense of humor |
| 00:46.59 | TecnoBrat | maybe I'm crazy tho :P |
| 00:47.11 | Skyfire | aha! |
| 00:47.15 | Skyfire | no, you're not : |
| 00:47.18 | Skyfire | :p |
| 00:47.34 | Skyfire | that's how you make custom sigs work with speedydelete... |
| 00:47.57 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Alextrasza.jpg heh heh |
| 00:48.05 | TecnoBrat | speedydelete + custom sig = ? |
| 00:48.13 | Skyfire | hehe |
| 00:48.18 | Skyfire | wikinub alert! |
| 00:48.21 | Skyfire | :P |
| 00:48.50 | TecnoBrat | I mean ... why would you want it to work with custom sigs? |
| 00:48.56 | Skyfire | why not? |
| 00:48.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, oh sorry, I forgot to repaste that section |
| 00:49.04 | Bagginsww | np |
| 00:49.19 | Bagginsww | I'm glad it was just a mistake and not some disgruntled poster LOL |
| 00:49.21 | Skyfire | {{speedydelete|yadda yadda yadda|sig=~~~~}} |
| 00:49.40 | Bagginsww | at first I was afraid it was someone else that did it, and we might have an edit war LOL |
| 00:49.41 | TecnoBrat | ahhh gotcha |
| 00:50.03 | Skyfire | i can see theron doing it... |
| 00:50.07 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 00:50.36 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 00:50.54 | Skyfire | not ogre |
| 00:51.05 | Bagginsww | There are some that think these ideas from the game that didn't show up in the novel, might still be in official "notes" that blizzard people use |
| 00:51.15 | Bagginsww | no way to know for sure |
| 00:51.26 | Skyfire | tecnobrat |
| 00:51.40 | Bagginsww | Gazlowe for example never showed up in the novel |
| 00:51.54 | Bagginsww | but he had a big part in the game, and later showed up in TFT |
| 00:52.01 | Bagginsww | and WoW |
| 00:52.11 | Bagginsww | so his backstory may still be on master notes |
| 00:52.40 | TecnoBrat | yea Sky? |
| 00:53.01 | Skyfire | i'm going to suggest you move that template out of the template namespace |
| 00:53.04 | Bagginsww | Wishes, RPG can take the time to incorporate more LotC side stories ;) |
| 00:53.08 | TecnoBrat | Skyfire, sure |
| 00:53.14 | Skyfire | i can move it for you |
| 00:53.15 | Skyfire | :] |
| 00:53.24 | Skyfire | not a hard move, tbh |
| 00:53.32 | TecnoBrat | Yea .. where would you like it instead? |
| 00:53.39 | Kirkburn|afk | That location section is /much/ better now :)D |
| 00:53.46 | Kirkburn|afk | *:D and :) |
| 00:54.23 | TecnoBrat | Ahhh yea, that is better |
| 00:54.31 | TecnoBrat | Not sure why I stuck it in Templates |
| 00:54.53 | Skyfire | when actually using the teplate tecno, instead of just {{<name of template>|infos}}, you have to use {{:Server:Korgath US/Guild|infoz}} |
| 00:54.58 | Skyfire | note the colon at the beginning. |
| 00:55.15 | TecnoBrat | Ahh kk, thanks |
| 01:01.47 | TecnoBrat | And yes, I am definately a wiki noob :P |
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| 01:22.22 | vlad_ | hmm |
| 01:22.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Hullo |
| 01:22.28 | vlad_ | I need to grab mw 1.10 |
| 01:22.34 | vlad_ | or whatever is going to become 1.10 |
| 01:22.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh |
| 01:22.36 | vlad_ | and look at the theme changes |
| 01:22.44 | vlad_ | because if 1.9 to 1.10 is going to be a pain in the ass |
| 01:22.55 | vlad_ | I don't understand how people maintain their own themes for mw |
| 01:23.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Painful stuff :/ |
| 01:23.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Atm I'm having fun fiddling with the MediaWiki messages |
| 01:23.37 | vlad_ | heh |
| 01:23.40 | vlad_ | oh, while you're there |
| 01:23.43 | vlad_ | go to MediaWiki:Email I think |
| 01:23.45 | vlad_ | and remove the * |
| 01:23.55 | vlad_ | sorry |
| 01:23.58 | vlad_ | MediaWiki:Youremail |
| 01:24.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Done |
| 01:24.25 | vlad_ | thanks |
| 01:25.17 | Kirkburn|afk | So what might we get as tonight's special? :P |
| 01:25.28 | vlad_ | haha |
| 01:25.32 | vlad_ | what is this, 12 days to christmas? :) |
| 01:25.50 | vlad_ | but I dunno |
| 01:25.57 | vlad_ | I need to figure out the deadlock errors |
| 01:25.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Can it be zero days to christmas? |
| 01:26.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh those, weird stuff |
| 01:26.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, did you fiddle with the Job queue stuff? |
| 01:27.02 | Tekkub | yea WTF is a "zero day" bug/flaw/thing anyway? |
| 01:27.40 | Karrion | Tekkub: a vulnerability that has been exploited in the wild before it is discovered |
| 01:27.50 | vlad_ | Tekkub: it's basically when a black hat (or sometimes, but rarely, white hat) hacker publishes a vulnerability |
| 01:27.52 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 01:27.52 | vlad_ | without notifying the vendor in advance |
| 01:27.59 | vlad_ | (and giving them a chance to patch) |
| 01:28.00 | Karrion | (discovered by the good guys) |
| 01:28.09 | Tekkub | okey, gotcha now |
| 01:28.15 | vlad_ | it -sucks- |
| 01:28.23 | Tekkub | that was confusing me, cause they're all "zero day" anymore |
| 01:28.25 | vlad_ | because you basically have everyone run like a chicken with their head cut off |
| 01:28.31 | Kirkburn|afk | vlad_, oh now I see why wanted the * bit removed |
| 01:28.36 | Tekkub | thought people were an a PR kick to make it not sound as bad |
| 01:28.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll edit the bit the star was referring to now |
| 01:28.42 | vlad_ | Tekkub: nah |
| 01:28.52 | vlad_ | Tekkub: in most cases how it works is a security guy contacts a company (e.g. mozilla) |
| 01:28.56 | vlad_ | says "hey I found a vuln" |
| 01:29.01 | Tekkub | "It's not a security hole, it's a zero day bug" |
| 01:29.02 | vlad_ | all this is kept private |
| 01:29.13 | vlad_ | and then when the fix is in |
| 01:29.17 | Tekkub | yea |
| 01:29.19 | vlad_ | and the next release is available to users, with the bugfix |
| 01:29.25 | Tekkub | just new terminology threw me off |
| 01:29.27 | vlad_ | then everyone goes public with the vuln, and gives credit to the security researcher |
| 01:31.27 | Kirkburn|afk | vlad_, I added the star back ... I've fixed the note |
| 01:31.35 | vlad_ | Kirkburn|afk: oh? |
| 01:31.44 | vlad_ | the star also appears under real name too though |
| 01:31.53 | Kirkburn|afk | See the maroony section |
| 01:32.42 | Kirkburn|afk | I hope it's accurate, what I wrote |
| 01:32.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Mostly copied from wikipedia |
| 01:38.13 | Kirkburn|afk | It's fun when you edit something, and the thing that your editing comes up on the preview page in it's old form and new form :P (work that one out) |
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| 01:47.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, if people are bored - spot the changes I've made ;) |
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| 01:49.53 | winkiller | gnight |
| 01:50.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Night |
| 02:07.10 | Bagginsww | kirkburn our you getting my private messages, I think I'm identified |
| 02:07.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 02:08.20 | Bagginsww | hmm odd |
| 02:08.43 | Bagginsww | xchat says I"m identified :p |
| 02:08.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Not getting anything :/ |
| 02:08.58 | Bagginsww | ok brb |
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| 02:21.13 | Bagginsww | I just came across a sylvanas porn picture while looking for images of sylvanas... |
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| 02:40.16 | Kitan | heya all |
| 02:40.32 | Kitan | Kirk is oddly not Kirk|some_randomness |
| 02:40.44 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:48.33 | Kitan | holy quiet tonight |
| 02:49.33 | Bagginsww | tallk to you all later. |
| 02:51.19 | Kirkburn | Toodles |
| 02:55.14 | Kitan | Toodles huh? |
| 02:55.21 | Kirkburn | Means "see ya" |
| 03:00.56 | Kitan | yeah I know what you mean.. :) |
| 03:00.58 | Kitan | Kirk |
| 03:01.12 | Kitan | for a peer review do I put the comments under the {{peerreview}} template or on the talk page? |
| 03:01.37 | Kirkburn | No-one bothers with them, just mention it on the village pump |
| 03:01.44 | Kitan | oh |
| 03:01.46 | Hobinheim|afk | is sky here... |
| 03:01.49 | Hobinheim|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Art_of_Aggression_%28Greymane_US%29 |
| 03:01.50 | Hobinheim|afk | why? |
| 03:01.57 | Kitan | someone just put one on alchemy so I put a comment in |
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| 03:02.57 | Kitan | hob I saw that sky was setting guilds |
| 03:03.03 | Hobinheim | setting? |
| 03:03.16 | Kitan | that hadn't done more than their stubs in 30 days for deletion |
| 03:03.17 | Kitan | sorry |
| 03:03.26 | Kitan | I have a habit of only entering half a sentance at the same time |
| 03:03.30 | Kitan | usually when the wife starts talking to me |
| 03:03.30 | Hobinheim | ahh that would have helped |
| 03:03.33 | Hobinheim | i see now, thanks |
| 03:09.25 | Kirkburn | Okay, I've finally finished with the MediaWiki message updates |
| 03:09.48 | Kirkburn | I couldn't decide what to change the "unprotect" button for admins to :/ It's now "Protected (change)" |
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| 03:14.34 | Gryphen | Edit Protection |
| 03:14.44 | Hobinheim | why change it at all? |
| 03:14.49 | Gryphen | dunno |
| 03:14.50 | Hobinheim | is unprotect not the queen's english? |
| 03:14.58 | Gryphen | dunno why a lot of them were changed |
| 03:14.58 | Gryphen | heh |
| 03:14.59 | Kirkburn | Kitan, in what crazy way did you think that was a right type of edit to Alchemy? :P |
| 03:15.06 | Kitan | dood! |
| 03:15.09 | Kitan | that is what I asked! |
| 03:15.19 | Kirkburn | Unprotect isn't neccessarily what you want to do |
| 03:15.20 | Kitan | seemed wrong but it said, "peer review comments" |
| 03:15.26 | Kirkburn | Edit protection, that's good :) |
| 03:15.28 | Kitan | and I thought I put it under there |
| 03:15.32 | Kitan | I fix and put on talk page |
| 03:15.42 | Kirkburn | No, never put comments on an article, only on a talk page :) |
| 03:16.10 | Hobinheim | so... i'm back on the saddle. still sort of awake |
| 03:16.15 | Hobinheim | what admin type things are there to do.... |
| 03:16.18 | Kirkburn | Kitan, ooh, the template is wrong |
| 03:16.27 | Kirkburn | Or at least, it's in the wrong place |
| 03:16.32 | Kirkburn | I'll move it all |
| 03:17.03 | Kitan | I already reverted my change kirk |
| 03:17.04 | Kitan | sorry ;( |
| 03:17.08 | Kirkburn | heh, I saw |
| 03:17.08 | Kitan | that is why I asked right away |
| 03:17.16 | Kitan | seemed like that was a dumb place to do it |
| 03:18.57 | Kirkburn | More appropriate would have been a stub thing there I guess. In any case, fixed |
| 03:21.05 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, whatcha doing? |
| 03:21.30 | Hobinheim | deleting things... |
| 03:21.41 | Kirkburn | Zeal's things ... |
| 03:21.54 | Hobinheim | just the cats |
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| 03:22.16 | Kitan | thanks kirk |
| 03:22.17 | Kirkburn | Any reason for that? |
| 03:22.21 | Kirkburn | Kitan, np |
| 03:22.27 | Hobinheim | useless cat |
| 03:22.40 | Kirkburn | Well, not if he ever comes back and wants to find his pages :P |
| 03:23.02 | Kirkburn | Removing it from pages outside his user space I can certainly understand though :) |
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| 03:23.18 | Hobinheim | i dunno i think it's a little self serving to have your own category |
| 03:23.29 | Hobinheim | cyclical definition... :psyduck: |
| 03:23.30 | Kirkburn | I have one |
| 03:23.34 | Hobinheim | i know you do |
| 03:23.46 | Hobinheim | anyway, the wiki might go up and down for a while. that's all me. |
| 03:23.59 | Kirkburn | And Adys, Fizzwidget, SeiferTime, Urbnsol (?) and Varg :) |
| 03:24.12 | Hobinheim | i know they do... :( |
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| 03:24.47 | Kirkburn | Btw, everyone should fine their preferences options more ... lucid now |
| 03:25.21 | Hobinheim | yes that's awesome |
| 03:25.26 | Hobinheim | who did that, vlad_? |
| 03:25.32 | DuTempete | I love you for that, Kirkburn. |
| 03:25.34 | Kirkburn | Nah, not the colouring :) |
| 03:25.42 | Kirkburn | vlad_, did the colouring, I did the text |
| 03:26.09 | DuTempete | Well the text is superb. |
| 03:26.22 | Hobinheim | text? |
| 03:26.23 | Kitan | heh |
| 03:26.31 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, explanations for stuff |
| 03:26.31 | Kitan | well.. I am a big fan of the css change |
| 03:26.38 | Kirkburn | Like see the Raw sig option now |
| 03:26.45 | Kitan | I went once... blacked out for two days |
| 03:27.30 | Kirkburn | Other stuff I edited: the edit page (!), the long page warning, watchlist info, preview stuff, out-of-date page viewing |
| 03:27.52 | DuTempete | You're just super, Kirkburn. |
| 03:28.06 | Kirkburn | A whole load of stuff, should help people |
| 03:29.26 | DuTempete | ~Kirkburn |
| 03:29.30 | infobot | Author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens. |
| 03:29.31 | Kirkburn | People looking at me oddly, and I feel cold all the time, can't work out why |
| 03:29.32 | Hobinheim | eww pervert |
| 03:29.38 | Hobinheim | ~hobinheim |
| 03:29.40 | infobot | [hobinheim] nothing |
| 03:29.40 | DuTempete | awwwww... |
| 03:30.00 | DuTempete | you wrote your egotistical crap again... |
| 03:30.05 | Hobinheim | infobot, Hobinheim is The Great and Long Titled, as well as the Worst Admin Evar. |
| 03:30.07 | infobot | ...but hobinheim is already something else... |
| 03:30.43 | DuTempete | infobot, no, Hobinheim is a happy admin. |
| 03:30.45 | infobot | DuTempete: okay |
| 03:30.54 | Hobinheim | thanks DuTempete |
| 03:30.57 | Hobinheim | :glomp: |
| 03:31.00 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 03:31.17 | Kirkburn | Ooh, blimey, the Netherwing page needs work |
| 03:31.40 | DuTempete | infobot, no, Kirkburn is DuTempete's hero. |
| 03:31.45 | infobot | DuTempete: okay |
| 03:31.52 | Kirkburn | Stop it! |
| 03:31.58 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 03:32.24 | DuTempete | infobot, I love you. |
| 03:32.27 | infobot | You love you.? |
| 03:32.36 | DuTempete | well that too. |
| 03:32.49 | Skosiris | everything you guys say is recorded =/ |
| 03:32.55 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 03:33.02 | sancus | INTERNET MONKEY SEX |
| 03:33.05 | sancus | er, oh wait |
| 03:33.08 | sancus | recorded you say? |
| 03:33.10 | Skosiris | yeah |
| 03:33.24 | sancus | how terrible |
| 03:33.42 | Skosiris | http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowwiki/ |
| 03:33.45 | sancus | Skosiris is a fag |
| 03:33.46 | DuTempete | infobot, no, Kirkburn is the author of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat, blah, blah, blah. |
| 03:33.47 | infobot | DuTempete: okay |
| 03:33.48 | sancus | that's on the internet now |
| 03:33.49 | sancus | you're fucked |
| 03:33.52 | Tekkub | bum butt boob badda lumpy pot! |
| 03:33.55 | sancus | ;p |
| 03:33.58 | DuTempete | BOOBIES!!! |
| 03:34.01 | Skosiris | lol |
| 03:34.01 | Tekkub | bollox! |
| 03:34.04 | Kirkburn | ~dutempete |
| 03:34.06 | infobot | DuTempete: Giant meanie-head. Smells. Steals clothes. |
| 03:34.09 | sancus | ~sancus |
| 03:34.15 | Skosiris | ~skosiris |
| 03:34.16 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, skosiris is a Wowhead developer. |
| 03:34.21 | sancus | hah I have nothing |
| 03:34.22 | sancus | awesome |
| 03:34.28 | DuTempete | infobot, Tekkub |
| 03:34.30 | infobot | somebody said tekkub was The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new lighter, integrated library solution, Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 03:34.35 | Kirkburn | ~sancus |
| 03:34.37 | infobot | sancus is sooo raiiiiiid! |
| 03:34.44 | DuTempete | cripes, Tekkub... |
| 03:34.49 | Tekkub | nani? |
| 03:34.52 | sancus | cute |
| 03:34.56 | sancus | too bad I don't raid anymore :/ |
| 03:35.20 | Kirkburn | ~sancus |
| 03:35.23 | infobot | sancus is sooo raiiiiiid! |
| 03:35.33 | sancus | yes I get it |
| 03:35.36 | Kirkburn | ~sancus |
| 03:35.38 | infobot | sancus is sooo (not) raiiiiiid! |
| 03:35.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 03:35.43 | sancus | lol |
| 03:36.02 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, why would anyone want to change Tekkub? |
| 03:36.11 | DuTempete | because his is worse than yours. |
| 03:36.14 | Kirkburn | I wouldn't change Tekkub for the world! |
| 03:36.32 | sancus | Kirkburn, master of infinite time-on-hands |
| 03:36.39 | DuTempete | lol |
| 03:36.46 | sancus | -s, really |
| 03:36.50 | Kirkburn | "Uh, yeah, I'd like to swap my Tekkub for the new model please" |
| 03:37.11 | DuTempete | I dunno, according to that definition, Tekkub is the Master-of-Infinite-Time-on-Hands. |
| 03:37.29 | Tekkub | I have lots of things on my hand |
| 03:37.31 | DuTempete | I'll trade you for a hand-me-down Kirkburn. |
| 03:37.31 | Tekkub | *hands |
| 03:37.38 | Hobinheim | raid? |
| 03:37.40 | Hobinheim | sancus is raid? |
| 03:37.41 | Tekkub | wanna take a lick and see if you can guess em? |
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| 03:37.50 | Kirkburn | No Hobinheim, he's raiiiiiid |
| 03:37.50 | DuTempete | uhhhh... |
| 03:38.00 | sancus | careful, I heard the new model isn't very reliable, also the power adapter tends to trip breakers |
| 03:38.29 | DuTempete | okies, bedie-bye for me. |
| 03:38.36 | Tekkub | I scratch XBox discs |
| 03:39.30 | Tekkub | can I sniff his gear too? |
| 03:39.42 | EyePawd | Gear sniffing isn't always suggested. ;x |
| 03:40.20 | Kirkburn | I smell goooood, don't I |
| 03:41.00 | sancus | . . . |
| 03:41.03 | Tekkub | http://www.furaffinity.net/art/silverlonewolf/thumbnail.silverlonewolf_new_count.jpg |
| 03:41.03 | EyePawd | Agreed. |
| 03:41.10 | Tekkub | yes, safe, even on a furry site |
| 03:41.46 | Tekkub | also, http://www.furaffinity.net/view/438304/ |
| 03:42.11 | EyePawd | I wish there was a dialup friendly version of the wow armory. It takes too long to load (not to mention I have to use IE to even look at it)...Arr. -_- |
| 03:42.25 | Tekkub | lern2broadband |
| 03:42.37 | Tekkub | noone should be allowed to use dialup anymore |
| 03:42.39 | Hobinheim | ooo probably brought down the wiki for a sec |
| 03:42.39 | EyePawd | Would love to. |
| 03:42.49 | EyePawd | Can't. Part of the fun of living in the middle of nowhere. ;\ |
| 03:42.52 | Skosiris | IE? The Armory was designed for Firefox |
| 03:43.02 | Tekkub | move to the outskirts of somewhere |
| 03:43.10 | EyePawd | It gives me an error everytime i try to load it on FF. |
| 03:43.25 | EyePawd | But then again, I only tried when the site first launched. Meh. |
| 03:44.12 | Hobinheim | oh me bringing down the wiki again possibly |
| 03:44.16 | Hobinheim | rats |
| 03:44.20 | Hobinheim | it's a whole night affair |
| 03:44.25 | Hobinheim | better now then never |
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| 03:47.55 | sancus | simply refuse to live, visit, or even acknowledge places that don't have some sort of broadband and you never have to suffer dialup! |
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| 03:48.43 | Hobinheim | sancus, i blame people's attitudes towards technology now |
| 03:48.47 | Hobinheim | not everyone has broadband... |
| 03:49.26 | Tekkub | yea, and those people don't deserve to be online :) |
| 03:49.36 | Hobinheim | ouch... |
| 03:49.42 | Tekkub | we need a 2nd internet for them |
| 03:49.45 | Hobinheim | it's like saying "bigger hard drives" or "faster processors" |
| 03:49.49 | Tekkub | then we can go slumming! |
| 03:49.50 | Tekkub | :) |
| 03:50.02 | sancus | not everyone has broadband |
| 03:50.05 | sancus | that's true |
| 03:50.12 | Tekkub | no it's not Hob... one can do fine with a 6yo computer... |
| 03:50.16 | sancus | Not everyone can afford to play an MMO, either :P |
| 03:50.25 | Tekkub | dialup is like 15yo tech |
| 03:50.39 | Tekkub | :P |
| 03:50.51 | sancus | lots of parts of WoW are unplayable on dialup |
| 03:51.05 | Tekkub | WoW's min is broadband for a reason |
| 03:51.09 | sancus | I once did molten core on dialup |
| 03:51.11 | sancus | oh, god |
| 03:51.19 | Hobinheim | i've noticed that template edits are better on the wiki |
| 03:51.24 | Hobinheim | still risky, but much better than before |
| 03:51.45 | Hobinheim | well browsing web pages and stuff doesn't need broadband |
| 03:51.56 | sancus | .. some web pages, anyway |
| 03:51.57 | Hobinheim | unless sancus was specifically talking about wow then yeah i agree |
| 03:52.12 | sancus | I'm sure the armory is browsable ondialup |
| 03:52.14 | sancus | it's just slow as shit |
| 03:52.34 | Hobinheim | the armory feels... buggy |
| 03:52.45 | Hobinheim | like i feel uncomfortable looking at the armory or any heavy dhtml thing in firefox |
| 03:52.57 | sancus | it was written by blizzard's web team |
| 03:53.02 | sancus | ... blizzard's web team |
| 03:53.03 | sancus | that is all |
| 03:53.24 | vlad_ | Hobinheim: mac? or win32? |
| 03:53.39 | sancus | vlad: it feels heavy in either one |
| 03:53.49 | Hobinheim | win32 of course |
| 03:54.09 | Hobinheim | ahh database error, i knew it well |
| 03:54.41 | sancus | I think they overuse ajax on it a lot |
| 03:55.12 | vlad_ | did someone just edit something scary? |
| 03:55.43 | Hobinheim | i did. i am. currently |
| 03:56.48 | vlad_ | k |
| 03:56.51 | sancus | the ui does some pretty wonky drawing too |
| 03:56.52 | sancus | on the armory |
| 03:57.10 | sancus | search boxes randomly flickering while loading and all sorts of fun stuff like that that makes the page feel shitty |
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| 03:58.23 | vlad_ | Hobinheim: did you edit a template? or something else? |
| 03:58.27 | sancus | ah well |
| 03:58.29 | sancus | so not my job |
| 03:58.29 | Hobinheim | template, sir |
| 03:58.32 | Skyfire | he edited a lot of templates |
| 03:58.40 | Hobinheim | popular templates... |
| 03:58.49 | Hobinheim | and i'm about to do it again and again and a couple more times tonight |
| 03:58.54 | Hobinheim | well, it's midnight ish here in jersey |
| 03:59.15 | vlad_ | before you do another one |
| 03:59.19 | vlad_ | lemme tweak something |
| 03:59.31 | Hobinheim | gahhh ahh |
| 03:59.35 | Hobinheim | ok i'll stop |
| 03:59.40 | Hobinheim | i ninja'ed one edit before i saw that |
| 03:59.44 | vlad_ | nah, that's fine |
| 03:59.48 | vlad_ | I need to find the place to poke |
| 03:59.56 | Hobinheim | i'll switch to work-related work for now |
| 04:00.13 | Skyfire | they're breaking my wiiiiiiiiiikiiiiiiii |
| 04:00.27 | Hobinheim | *our*, wiki, baby |
| 04:00.52 | Skyfire | lol |
| 04:01.02 | Hobinheim | *our* wiki.... |
| 04:01.13 | vlad_ | hrm, ok, I need to set up memcached |
| 04:01.50 | sancus | I could've told you that like 4 months ago |
| 04:02.12 | Skyfire | lol |
| 04:02.36 | EyePawd | I like the wiki on the pandereans. >_> Pandas + ninja swords = ratings. |
| 04:02.46 | vlad_ | Hobinheim: ok, give it another shot |
| 04:03.43 | vlad_ | and then i'm going to see about setting up memcached |
| 04:03.53 | sancus | on what server? |
| 04:04.04 | vlad_ | rig |
| 04:04.07 | sancus | ah |
| 04:04.30 | sancus | I would volunteer old-foolbox, but its memory is kinda pathetic |
| 04:04.31 | vlad_ | well, rig has the same amount |
| 04:04.32 | vlad_ | just 512mb |
| 04:04.35 | vlad_ | but it's totally quiet |
| 04:04.38 | sancus | you didnt upgrade it to 1gb at some point? |
| 04:04.43 | sancus | oh well |
| 04:04.51 | vlad_ | not rig, no |
| 04:04.55 | vlad_ | I have things tweaked on scrooge such that it's basically consuming exactly what it has |
| 04:05.01 | vlad_ | not into swap at all which is nice |
| 04:05.27 | sancus | should have something with at least 1 gig for the memcache server ideally |
| 04:05.41 | vlad_ | yeah, but here we are |
| 04:05.43 | sancus | even like 256mb will help a lot over nothing |
| 04:05.51 | vlad_ | Hobinheim: lemme know when you do another edit |
| 04:05.58 | vlad_ | well |
| 04:05.58 | sancus | I'm pretty sure remora memcache is only 512 |
| 04:06.11 | sancus | and it helps A LOT |
| 04:06.18 | Thrae | Now, who here uses growisofs? |
| 04:06.26 | sancus | but the caching efficiency won't be as good on wowwiki I suspect |
| 04:07.06 | vlad_ | the problem is that I have to disable the in-mysql object cache |
| 04:07.44 | Skosiris | vlad_, may I ask, what are the specs of WoWWiki's web server? |
| 04:08.06 | Gryphen | pentium 90, 256 ram |
| 04:08.08 | vlad_ | though hmm, the object cache is only using up 45mb |
| 04:08.15 | vlad_ | Gryphen: no way dude |
| 04:08.20 | Skyfire | lol |
| 04:08.22 | vlad_ | Gryphen: Pentium II! |
| 04:08.22 | Skosiris | lol |
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| 04:08.46 | vlad_ | but no |
| 04:08.56 | vlad_ | it's a dual-core Pentium D 3.2ghz, 4GB ram, SATA RAID |
| 04:09.20 | Skosiris | kk |
| 04:09.20 | sancus | er |
| 04:09.23 | sancus | you mean the mysql query cache? |
| 04:09.25 | sancus | you have that on? |
| 04:10.25 | Kirkburn | rig? scrooge? old-foolbox? |
| 04:10.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Ragestorm |
| 04:10.41 | sancus | I didn't think mysql _had_ an object cache |
| 04:10.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Ragestorm#Sylvanas_image |
| 04:10.48 | Hobinheim | compc rashing |
| 04:10.50 | Hobinheim | can't talk |
| 04:11.53 | sancus | at least, mysql 4.x definitely doesn't have an object cache, maybe it's a 5.x thing I'm not aware of |
| 04:12.13 | vlad_ | sorry, RSI break |
| 04:12.27 | sancus | k |
| 04:12.36 | vlad_ | not the mysql cache |
| 04:12.38 | sancus | kirkburn: machine names |
| 04:12.47 | vlad_ | just the objectcache table that mw uses for the in-db cache |
| 04:12.49 | Kirkburn | I guessed that, they're just ... interesting :) |
| 04:12.50 | sancus | oh |
| 04:12.51 | sancus | that thing |
| 04:12.54 | vlad_ | I need to tweak httpd on rig though |
| 04:13.02 | sancus | do you have the mysql query cache on? |
| 04:14.09 | vlad_ | no |
| 04:14.13 | sancus | ok |
| 04:16.05 | vlad_ | sancus: i'm actually running mysql5 too |
| 04:16.13 | sancus | I know you are |
| 04:16.15 | sancus | That's why I asked |
| 04:16.18 | vlad_ | ah |
| 04:16.28 | sancus | but it uh doesnt have an object cache either, heh, as far as I can tell! |
| 04:16.34 | vlad_ | it's a table! |
| 04:16.37 | vlad_ | like I keep saying! |
| 04:16.38 | sancus | I know |
| 04:16.43 | sancus | that's mediawiki's object cache! |
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| 04:16.51 | sancus | and it probably sucks |
| 04:16.54 | sancus | just like Cake's does |
| 04:16.58 | vlad_ | well |
| 04:17.05 | vlad_ | the caching is identical to memcached afaik |
| 04:17.08 | vlad_ | it just involves doing a db query |
| 04:17.11 | vlad_ | to do a lookup |
| 04:17.26 | sancus | that doesn't seem ideal to say the least |
| 04:17.32 | sancus | but better than nothing |
| 04:17.55 | sancus | Cake does pretty much the same thing, I think |
| 04:18.05 | sancus | we only had it enabled for a bit and then we dropped it in favor of memcached |
| 04:19.26 | Hobinheim | sleepy |
| 04:19.28 | Hobinheim | bye guys |
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| 04:19.45 | sancus | if you want me to set up memcached on old-foolbox I can |
| 04:19.48 | sancus | it's not doing anything atm either |
| 04:20.38 | sancus | um |
| 04:20.38 | sancus | actually, nevermind |
| 04:20.39 | sancus | I forget that it's hard drive is dead and keeps failing over to read-only mode, gg |
| 04:21.50 | vlad_ | heh |
| 04:21.54 | vlad_ | well, it just needs memory! :) |
| 04:22.01 | vlad_ | why the hell do my httpds chew up 70mb each right on startup |
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| 04:23.29 | sancus | right but |
| 04:23.35 | sancus | it's hard to install and configure things with the HDD in read-only mode |
| 04:23.47 | sancus | and if I restart it, it's 50/50 that it won't actually come back up again and I'm not begging chris to fix it manually |
| 04:24.28 | sancus | (system files were corrupted last time!) |
| 04:26.15 | vlad_ | yeah, no worries |
| 04:26.22 | Kirkburn | Fiddled the wiki's stats page too now :) |
| 04:26.34 | vlad_ | wonder how much memory bitchacke or newcake have free |
| 04:26.42 | vlad_ | then again, I don't really want to ask to use that |
| 04:27.11 | sancus | um |
| 04:27.22 | sancus | bitchcake probably has none |
| 04:27.26 | sancus | it's still pretty heavily used I think |
| 04:27.29 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 04:27.33 | sancus | newcake, no idea |
| 04:28.23 | sancus | all these machines were supposed to die six months ago ;p |
| 04:28.23 | Kirkburn | Wow, we get about 1.5-2 million hits per day? |
| 04:28.23 | Kirkburn | (page views, anyway) |
| 04:28.46 | Kirkburn | God knows how accurate it is, but the wiki just hit 300,000,000 page views |
| 04:29.03 | sancus | well |
| 04:29.09 | sancus | 15 million http requests per day or so, I think |
| 04:29.17 | sancus | no idea how that translates into pageviews! |
| 04:29.21 | sancus | but 2 million is reasonable |
| 04:30.47 | Kirkburn | It's amazing how much it shot up over December 2005-Jan 2006 |
| 04:31.20 | Kirkburn | Alexa rank went from about 80,000 to 8,000 |
| 04:32.00 | Kirkburn | Unfortunately, I can't take any credit whatsoever for that since I arrived in May :P |
| 04:32.41 | sancus | you do things? |
| 04:32.51 | sancus | ;p |
| 04:33.56 | Kirkburn | What other than blabber on on here all day? |
| 04:33.56 | Kirkburn | I motivate the masses =) |
| 04:33.56 | Gryphen | to revert your edits |
| 04:34.01 | Kirkburn | But of course |
| 04:35.18 | TecnoBrat | Kirkburn, we all know you just revert changes and cause drama with people who edited the "us wikipedia" |
| 04:35.24 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 04:38.25 | Kirkburn | Ooh, I just made another very noticeable change |
| 04:39.08 | sancus | deleted wowwiki.com/Kungen? |
| 04:39.13 | Kirkburn | Everyone will notice this change |
| 04:39.20 | Kirkburn | I think it's been merged into the article? |
| 04:39.32 | Kirkburn | Or not |
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| 04:39.57 | sancus | damn, cut my thumb on foil |
| 05:00.40 | Kirkburn | Ah. woot, just looking at the changes between MW versions - 1.9 has the 'undo' feature |
| 05:01.06 | Kirkburn | Oh, and being able to upload images straight from websites is in 1.8 :) |
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| 05:03.09 | Kirkburn | Ooh, and revision size changes is in 1.9 |
| 05:03.33 | Skyfire | yeah |
| 05:03.40 | Skyfire | i was waiting for that, personally :) |
| 05:04.07 | Kirkburn | Sortable columns in 1.9 |
| 05:04.33 | Skosiris | Javascriptly? |
| 05:04.33 | Kirkburn | And for us admins, blocking improvements and special page changes :) |
| 05:04.39 | Kirkburn | Skosiris, yup |
| 05:04.48 | Skosiris | nice |
| 05:04.52 | Skosiris | can't wait to give them a try |
| 05:05.10 | Skyfire | it might be a bad thing to let skosiris go near the javascript... |
| 05:05.11 | Skyfire | ;P |
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| 05:05.27 | JunkHead-Work | Morning |
| 05:05.41 | Skyfire | evening, nub! |
| 05:05.43 | Skosiris | Sky, I have a challenge for you |
| 05:05.49 | Skyfire | oh boy |
| 05:06.32 | Skosiris | you will head over wowhead.com, once you're there you must find out the exact location of the NPC who can train you "Expert Riding" |
| 05:06.36 | Skosiris | the faster you do this the better |
| 05:06.39 | Skosiris | go! |
| 05:06.47 | Skyfire | expert riding is 300 or 375? |
| 05:06.52 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 05:06.53 | Skosiris | 225 I think |
| 05:06.55 | Skyfire | kk |
| 05:07.02 | Skyfire | that would be flying |
| 05:07.25 | JunkHead-Work | Shadowmoon Valley? |
| 05:07.41 | Skyfire | yup |
| 05:07.43 | Skyfire | sm valley |
| 05:07.57 | Skyfire | exact... |
| 05:08.01 | JunkHead-Work | I don't know if horde get theirs there or not, but I got mine there. |
| 05:08.19 | JunkHead-Work | I don't have coords, but there is a dhryphon pen not far from the inn. |
| 05:08.24 | Skyfire | which npc sko? |
| 05:08.24 | JunkHead-Work | Gryphon* |
| 05:08.40 | Skyfire | sm village for the horde |
| 05:08.49 | Skyfire | 29.2,29.4 |
| 05:09.10 | Skyfire | 37.5,56.2 |
| 05:09.12 | Skyfire | for ally |
| 05:09.18 | Skyfire | 2 minutes |
| 05:09.32 | Skosiris | well done! |
| 05:09.39 | Skyfire | pft |
| 05:09.47 | Skosiris | I managed to do it in 7 seconds, but whatever |
| 05:09.53 | Skyfire | you knew the name though! |
| 05:09.54 | Skyfire | ;( |
| 05:09.58 | Skosiris | I did not :P |
| 05:10.03 | Skyfire | you lie! |
| 05:10.12 | Kirkburn | Y'know, in terms of views, we're one of the best wikis in the world :) |
| 05:10.31 | Skosiris | I searched for "Riding", clicked expert riding under the Skills tab, and there was a Taught by NPC right on that page |
| 05:10.44 | Skosiris | the reason why I challenged you is the following: |
| 05:11.03 | Skosiris | Bug report from Mysteeq |
| 05:11.06 | Skosiris | Page: Try TELLING people WHO the Riding Instructor for 225+ is .... |
| 05:11.06 | Skosiris | Description: ... AND WHERE! I spent ages battling to find it, ... and finally did, without the help of this site which is totally incomplete. Am NOT in a good mood now. |
| 05:11.06 | Skosiris | The Riding Instructor for skill 225 is Ilsa Blusterbrew, and she is HIDING literally UNDER the damn wagon on the right of the entrance to the stables 37.5, 56.3 |
| 05:11.43 | JunkHead-Work | ? Under? |
| 05:11.55 | Kirkburn | Okay, you're not gonna believe this ... dicounting wikipedia, we have the highest number of page views for any wiki in the world (pokes sancus, vlad_) |
| 05:12.01 | Kirkburn | *discounting |
| 05:12.08 | sancus | huh really |
| 05:12.09 | sancus | that's cool |
| 05:12.21 | Kirkburn | Closest to us is GuildWiki |
| 05:12.25 | Kirkburn | With 200,000,000 |
| 05:13.17 | Kirkburn | GuildWiki beats us on edits, but that's not what counts ;) |
| 05:13.30 | Skyfire | guildwiki... which is what? |
| 05:13.34 | Skyfire | and how do you know this? |
| 05:13.37 | Kirkburn | Guild Wars |
| 05:13.41 | Skyfire | ah |
| 05:13.59 | Kirkburn | Tadaa! http://s23.org/wikistats/largest_html.php |
| 05:14.27 | Kirkburn | it goes by whatever stats the wikis report |
| 05:14.34 | Kirkburn | wikipedia doesn't report page views |
| 05:14.40 | Skosiris | Sky: some n00b had a hard time using the site, I wanted to see if you could do it :p |
| 05:15.01 | Skosiris | should I reply "learn2wowhead" ? |
| 05:15.22 | Skyfire | yeah... uh. that might be a bad thing. try "lern2search" instead. |
| 05:15.24 | Skyfire | :P |
| 05:15.30 | Skyfire | btw, that was mean and uncalled for! |
| 05:15.32 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:15.47 | Skyfire | uh, kirk, wikia > us in page views |
| 05:16.03 | Skyfire | oh wait |
| 05:16.04 | Skyfire | nvm |
| 05:16.04 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:16.18 | Kirkburn | Was gonna say :/ |
| 05:16.24 | Skyfire | we do have a pretty high stubbage rate though... |
| 05:16.27 | sancus | http://s23.org/wikistats/largest_html.php?sort=views_desc&th=0&lines=200 |
| 05:16.30 | Skyfire | 2/5 articles... |
| 05:16.34 | sancus | non sucky link :P |
| 05:16.38 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 05:16.58 | Skyfire | us being modest bastards, probably |
| 05:17.00 | Skyfire | :] |
| 05:17.20 | Kirkburn | And to think we're "not notable" |
| 05:17.53 | Skyfire | in the world of what? |
| 05:17.57 | Kirkburn | Wikipedia |
| 05:18.01 | Skyfire | yeah... |
| 05:18.16 | Skyfire | you mean the fact that wowwiki redirects to world of warcraft? |
| 05:18.18 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 05:18.22 | sancus | who cares what wikipedia thinks is notable? |
| 05:18.30 | Kirkburn | Wikipedia |
| 05:18.40 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 05:18.44 | sancus | ... gogo circular logic? |
| 05:18.47 | sancus | yes obviously :P |
| 05:19.25 | Kirkburn | Edit a talk page, and fear my leet copying of wikipedia skillz |
| 05:19.34 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:19.39 | Skyfire | i noticed that change :] |
| 05:19.56 | Kirkburn | It was like a disabled section of the code |
| 05:19.58 | sancus | they should agregate multi-language wikis on the same domain |
| 05:20.32 | Skyfire | -we- would do that if it were possible... |
| 05:20.34 | Kirkburn | I also found a better way of doing the edit summary thing - previously I'd stuck it on as part of the copyright notice :/ |
| 05:20.51 | Kirkburn | Which meant it appeared even when it wasn't supposed to |
| 05:21.01 | Kirkburn | But now! Oh happy day! |
| 05:21.10 | sancus | Why is it not possible |
| 05:21.19 | Skyfire | no se |
| 05:21.22 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 05:21.27 | Skyfire | el es loco |
| 05:21.41 | sancus | english? |
| 05:21.56 | Kirkburn | Not many people care about alternate language wikis for wow ( |
| 05:22.17 | Skyfire | in english? "i don't know" and "he is crazy" |
| 05:22.19 | Kirkburn | Those silly europeans speak too much english |
| 05:22.28 | sancus | I realize that |
| 05:22.31 | sancus | I was referring to the stats page :P |
| 05:22.44 | Kirkburn | Oh riiiight |
| 05:22.47 | sancus | should agregate the results for multi-language wikis on the same domain |
| 05:22.58 | sancus | seems like it wouldn't be very hard |
| 05:23.09 | Skosiris | Sky, tu te llamas Sky |
| 05:23.32 | Skosiris | is that correct Spanish? |
| 05:23.47 | sancus | I bet there would be significant use of different locales for wowwiki |
| 05:23.53 | sancus | but we don't really have the support structure for such a thing |
| 05:24.06 | sancus | however they're a major part of the pageviews for some wikis and separating like that ruins those stats pretty badly :/ |
| 05:24.37 | Skyfire | it's close enough skosiris |
| 05:24.52 | Skyfire | if not correct |
| 05:25.08 | Kirkburn | Y'know what I really hate - that bloody edit iconbar that appears above the edit box |
| 05:25.38 | Kirkburn | Why, WHY does it move the page down when it appears, why can't it take the the right space before loading |
| 05:26.08 | sancus | hmm |
| 05:27.03 | sancus | that's based on total reported pageviews? |
| 05:27.09 | sancus | mehhh that's probably not very accurate then :? |
| 05:27.10 | sancus | er :/ |
| 05:27.11 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 05:27.16 | Kirkburn | Why? |
| 05:27.26 | Skyfire | rc spammers |
| 05:27.28 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 05:27.29 | sancus | Because I'd bet any money that some of those wikis have resetted their totals at random points |
| 05:27.30 | Skyfire | i kid |
| 05:27.41 | Kirkburn | that's their problem ;) |
| 05:27.57 | sancus | and total pageviews isn't indicative of current traffic |
| 05:27.58 | sancus | soooo |
| 05:28.01 | sancus | pretty useless, really |
| 05:28.09 | Kirkburn | We're still top. |
| 05:28.28 | Kirkburn | omg |
| 05:28.29 | sancus | I can make a top 10 page where we're top in static html too! |
| 05:28.37 | Kirkburn | So there was an option to hide the edit toolbar! |
| 05:28.57 | Kirkburn | The one thing I've wanted for months and months, and it was in the preferences already |
| 05:29.06 | Kirkburn | ARGHAARGHRGARGH |
| 05:30.00 | Skyfire | owned. |
| 05:34.50 | sancus | l2wiki |
| 05:35.13 | Skyfire | l2checkoutalltheoptionsbeforedisregardingthem |
| 05:35.18 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 05:35.20 | Skyfire | <.< |
| 05:35.28 | Kirkburn | I looked at them all earlier :/ |
| 05:35.57 | Kirkburn | Anyway, afk |
| 05:36.06 | Kirkburn | Gonna try do some project work |
| 05:43.05 | sancus | I wonder where they got their pageview number for wikipedia |
| 05:43.08 | sancus | the en one that is |
| 05:43.13 | sancus | it's not actually on the wikipedia site |
| 05:43.21 | sancus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics |
| 05:43.33 | Tekkub | they pulled it out their asses |
| 05:43.46 | sancus | maybe they did list it at one point |
| 05:43.47 | sancus | then stopped |
| 05:43.51 | sancus | and the pageview number hasn't updated since then |
| 05:45.54 | Skyfire | "The Alexa toolbar is only available in English and only to Internet Explorer users." from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_is_more_popular_than... |
| 05:46.07 | Skyfire | there goes half the relevant population. |
| 05:46.27 | sancus | If you sort the stats sites by edits, imo that ranking is a lot more likely to be realistic :p |
| 05:47.22 | sancus | now I'm curious why so many sites have fucked up pageview stats though |
| 05:47.42 | sancus | ah well |
| 05:47.43 | sancus | NMJ |
| 05:49.49 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:49.52 | Skyfire | our rank on alexa is falling |
| 05:49.53 | Skyfire | oh well. |
| 05:50.45 | Skyfire | top 1k in the netherlands and the us, and within 1500 in canada and the uk |
| 05:50.57 | Skyfire | though the netherlands |
| 05:51.00 | Skyfire | that's just strange. |
| 05:51.24 | Skyfire | skosiris, what did you end up replying with? |
| 05:52.15 | Skosiris | I explained him how to find the information he needed |
| 05:52.18 | Skosiris | *but* |
| 05:52.45 | Skosiris | I ended the email with a lightgray-colored "l2wowhead" |
| 05:54.51 | Skosiris | I first hesitated, thinking it wouldn't sound profesionnal, but w/e :P |
| 05:55.05 | Skyfire | uh... it doesn't |
| 05:55.07 | Skyfire | ;p |
| 05:55.28 | Skyfire | ooo |
| 05:55.40 | Skyfire | me gusta mucho! |
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| 05:57.24 | sancus | is wowhead your primary source of income? |
| 05:58.21 | Skosiris | well, as I'm a full-time student and don't work at the moment, yes |
| 05:59.13 | sancus | ok then |
| 05:59.16 | dotted | morning |
| 06:01.18 | sancus | you're allowed to be a jerk imo ;p |
| 06:01.18 | Skosiris | Jerk: Noun. An idiot or stupid person. An insensitive, selfish, ignorant, cocky person who is inconsiderate and does stupid things. |
| 06:01.18 | Skosiris | (Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jerk) |
| 06:01.18 | sancus | urban dictionary |
| 06:01.18 | sancus | lulz |
| 06:04.52 | Skosiris | why do you ask? |
| 06:08.48 | Skosiris | nvm |
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| 06:24.17 | Skyfire | hmm |
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| 07:14.38 | Adys | lo peeps |
| 07:17.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Morning |
| 07:17.12 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not here :) |
| 07:17.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, enjoy the newly pimped wiki :P I got busy last night |
| 07:17.39 | Adys | css? |
| 07:17.55 | Adys | nuh huh :) |
| 07:18.04 | Adys | prefs still look crap btw=P |
| 07:18.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Look harder |
| 07:18.41 | Kirkburn|afk | A couple of changes I made are really obvious :) |
| 07:19.03 | Adys | Special:Contributions/Kirkburn ftw |
| 07:19.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Nooo! |
| 07:19.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, fine, edit a talk page |
| 07:20.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Try editing the village pump |
| 07:20.13 | Kirkburn|afk | You'll notice the most changes there |
| 07:20.14 | Adys | lol nice :) |
| 07:21.04 | Kirkburn|afk | A little bit less work for admins and helpers I hope :) |
| 07:22.16 | Adys | heh |
| 07:24.02 | Adys | ffs, for once i go to bed early, everything happens while im asleep |
| 07:24.06 | Adys | what else was going on? |
| 07:24.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Not much really |
| 07:25.14 | Adys | ffs, can hob stop ninja changing user pages? |
| 07:25.19 | Kirkburn|afk | See, I told Hob not to do it |
| 07:25.29 | Kirkburn|afk | He went onto doing the templates which was fair |
| 07:25.34 | Adys | I rolled back the change on User:Zeal |
| 07:26.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I saw, I was writing my comment before you mentioned it :) |
| 07:28.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, suggestion - add the email authentication thing as news, I need to do some work |
| 07:28.12 | Adys | Alright |
| 07:28.21 | Adys | i was actually going to mention we are soon getting an upgrade yesterday |
| 07:28.24 | Kirkburn|afk | WW:News needs updating too :P |
| 07:28.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, why not |
| 07:28.48 | Adys | Ill update WW:News |
| 07:28.54 | Adys | but when you come back translate my french! |
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| 07:38.22 | Kirochi`away | hi there |
| 07:38.26 | Adys | heya |
| 07:38.34 | Kirochi | I'm just off my bed |
| 07:44.44 | Adys | WoWWiki:News and Main Page news updated |
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| 07:56.53 | Kirochi | aughh |
| 07:57.12 | Kirochi | no Sunwell mangas 2 & 3 and no Rise of the Horde on eMule |
| 07:57.15 | Kirochi | I'm gonna cry |
| 08:00.59 | dotted | learn2buy them |
| 08:01.58 | Kirochi`away | nah, think I'd rather wait for their release on eMule |
| 08:02.12 | Kirochi`away | ok trip today |
| 08:02.14 | Kirochi`away | bye bye |
| 08:05.35 | dotted | hopefully they wont be realeased on crappy emule |
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| 08:59.29 | dotted | WHAT THE |
| 09:00.01 | dotted | We should have consistency between Server article names and guild article names |
| 09:01.08 | dotted | someone just moved Guild:Via_Crucis to Guild:Via_Crucis_(Trollbane_EU), but the server article is Server:Trollbane Europe |
| 09:01.48 | dotted | so it should be decided if is gonna be EU or Europe, else its just gonna look stupid |
| 09:04.05 | dotted | WW:GUILD doesnt tell what an article should name id its non-US |
| 09:04.08 | dotted | Kirkburn|afk |
| 09:04.09 | dotted | !! |
| 09:04.16 | dotted | Adys |
| 09:04.19 | Adys | mm |
| 09:04.46 | Adys | it doesnt matter |
| 09:04.48 | Adys | EU is fine |
| 09:04.56 | Adys | Server: pages need consistency |
| 09:05.02 | Adys | but atm all guild pages are fucked up |
| 09:05.07 | dotted | looks silly, and EU != Europe |
| 09:05.36 | Adys | Guild:Via Crucis (European leet realm of Tr0llb4ne) is fine |
| 09:05.43 | Adys | Anything is fine |
| 09:05.58 | dotted | lol im gonna move the article to that name lol |
| 09:06.03 | Adys | lol |
| 09:06.48 | dotted | im gonna move it to Europe |
| 09:07.35 | Adys | if you want |
| 09:11.50 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Use_Europe_for_naming_of_guild_pages |
| 09:22.20 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Outbreak WTH? |
| 09:22.55 | dotted | meh nvm |
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| 10:22.14 | Adys | lo kaso ^^ |
| 10:22.31 | Adys | Im slow today |
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| 10:34.00 | Hobinheim | bringing down the wiki... |
| 10:34.12 | Hobinheim | ooo took shorter than i thought |
| 10:36.39 | Adys | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/18/mr-stormrages-worst-dressed-list-2007/ |
| 10:36.50 | Adys | Hobinheim: i reverted all your User:Zeal/* changes |
| 10:37.40 | Adys | You hate zeal, blah blah thats fine and I don't really care but you're not allowed to do changes on this if he doesnt agree - and he's not here to tell you whether he does, so until there you don't change anything there |
| 10:38.05 | Adys | anyways, afk |
| 10:40.13 | Hobinheim | wow adys nice drive by |
| 10:43.59 | dotted | what was the point in removing the category anyways - not like it hurts anybody :/ |
| 10:44.14 | Adys|afk | on the templates its fine |
| 10:44.19 | Adys|afk | because its deprecated categories |
| 10:44.29 | Adys|afk | but on user pages its not unless its official wowwiki categories |
| 10:44.40 | dotted | meh |
| 10:44.59 | Hobinheim | i see your point |
| 10:45.06 | Hobinheim | but at the same time, it's extremely self serving |
| 10:45.17 | Hobinheim | and yes, i'm aware that you and kirkburn and other editors have their own categories as well |
| 10:45.22 | Hobinheim | which i think is equally not useful |
| 10:45.45 | Hobinheim | but consider the user space reverted... |
| 10:45.59 | Adys|afk | Hob |
| 10:46.02 | Adys|afk | here is something |
| 10:46.17 | Adys|afk | User.Pages.Are.Not.Yours.To.Take.Care.Of |
| 10:46.34 | Adys|afk | if i didnt make my point with that I dont know how to |
| 10:47.06 | Hobinheim | i don't need you demanding of me anything |
| 10:47.09 | Adys|afk | User pages are under the DNP and very basic policies |
| 10:47.17 | Adys|afk | nothing else |
| 10:47.24 | Hobinheim | you could just say, hey hob, i don't think it's cool that you edit user pages. maybe read up on the policies a little. that would have been better |
| 10:47.56 | Adys|afk | No, I got annoyed because zeal is not here and he's the only one caring about these changes |
| 10:48.09 | Adys|afk | I personally dont care if zeal doesnt have his category etc, but he does |
| 10:48.44 | Adys|afk | and its simply silly |
| 10:48.45 | Hobinheim | "he's the only one caring about these changes" |
| 10:48.54 | Hobinheim | "he's the *only one* caring about these changes" |
| 10:48.59 | Adys|afk | Yes |
| 10:49.12 | Adys|afk | And these user pages are his pages, even if he said he left the wiki |
| 10:49.13 | Hobinheim | it's a community project, not a User:Zeal project |
| 10:49.21 | Adys|afk | ffs, its under the User namespace hob |
| 10:49.33 | Adys|afk | so its HIS thing, and not wowwiki's |
| 10:49.39 | Hobinheim | whatever, beating the dead horse. changes reverted |
| 10:50.13 | Adys|afk | Look |
| 10:50.17 | Adys|afk | Template changes are |
| 10:50.18 | Adys|afk | FINE |
| 10:50.27 | Hobinheim | no, no more |
| 10:52.08 | Adys|afk | afk for good this time bbl |
| 10:53.46 | dotted | Hobinheim http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Use_Europe_for_naming_of_guild_pages gief comments |
| 10:54.30 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone here by chance play on Stormrage US? |
| 10:55.37 | Hobinheim | ugh... |
| 10:55.40 | Hobinheim | geography |
| 10:55.49 | Hobinheim | umm... how do you abbreviate Europe? |
| 10:56.25 | Hobinheim | i dunno, warcraft realms uses EU-Archimonde |
| 10:56.46 | dotted | [@Hobinheim]: umm... how do you abbreviate Europe? <- you dont really |
| 10:57.19 | dotted | but sure if we want to use EU, rather than US - we should change this on the server pages aswell |
| 10:57.19 | Hobinheim | think of it as a two letter abbreviation for Europe :) |
| 10:57.33 | Hobinheim | what do you mean rather than? |
| 10:57.43 | dotted | ehhh |
| 10:57.50 | dotted | i think i lost myself right there |
| 10:58.02 | dotted | but sure if we want to use EU, rather than Europe - we should change this on the server pages aswell |
| 10:58.07 | dotted | =) |
| 10:58.44 | Hobinheim | do you have an example where you see Europe? |
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| 10:59.30 | dotted | all youropean servers mentioned on wowwiki, like http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Trollbane_Europe |
| 10:59.36 | dotted | *european |
| 10:59.55 | Hobinheim | bleh =( |
| 11:00.09 | Hobinheim | you could make a bot request? |
| 11:00.40 | dotted | i mean using _EU for guilds and _Europe for servers is stupid, we need to choose 1 of them |
| 11:00.47 | dotted | bot request oO? |
| 11:01.37 | Hobinheim | or just write up a proposal explaining your situation, again, and post something on my user page to remind me about it |
| 11:01.48 | dotted | oki doki |
| 11:02.30 | Hobinheim | thanks |
| 11:02.36 | Hobinheim | i know that sounds all crazy and useless |
| 11:02.42 | Hobinheim | but wiki time is like asynchronous |
| 11:02.51 | Hobinheim | so... it'd be cool if there was a static copy of what you wanted to refer to |
| 11:03.02 | Hobinheim | or even if another editor besides myself could get to it |
| 11:07.23 | dotted | only seen 1 example of using _EU in a guild article name tho |
| 11:10.06 | dotted | Hobinheim i made a draft on your talk page, going home from school now |
| 11:10.11 | dotted | ill finish it when i get home |
| 11:11.25 | Hobinheim | weee thanks |
| 11:17.57 | Adys|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Outbreak talk about a shit guild article oO |
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| 11:23.28 | Hobinheim | i like the flower though |
| 11:30.31 | JunkHead-Work | Here at work, our start page is msn.com. |
| 11:30.49 | JunkHead-Work | So every time I open IE, I see that picture of the kid who shot all of thos epeople at that college. |
| 11:30.59 | JunkHead-Work | That picture is so funny to me. |
| 11:31.02 | Hobinheim | JunkHead-Work, that's depressing |
| 11:31.04 | Hobinheim | why is it funny |
| 11:31.09 | JunkHead-Work | Not the situation. |
| 11:31.13 | JunkHead-Work | Just the picture of him |
| 11:31.24 | JunkHead-Work | Let me see if I cna link just the pic. |
| 11:32.25 | JunkHead-Work | http://stb.msn.com/i/2E/1E62BE7A9138E196F289583B9A4A3.jpg |
| 11:32.30 | JunkHead-Work | I couldn't find a big version. |
| 11:34.50 | Hobinheim | i guess that is kinda funny |
| 11:35.02 | Hobinheim | i bet that's been photochopped already, somewhere on the internet |
| 11:35.51 | JunkHead-Work | I dunno.. It looks like he's dressed for halloween. |
| 11:36.35 | JunkHead-Work | It's just one of those pictures, where you look at it, and think : "Who the hell is gonna take this guy seriously?" |
| 11:40.13 | Adys|afk | Wait |
| 11:40.15 | Hobinheim | no one... |
| 11:40.16 | Hobinheim | that's why |
| 11:40.19 | Adys|afk | en.wikipedia only has 63208805 views? |
| 11:40.23 | Hobinheim | only |
| 11:40.27 | Adys|afk | and we got 300000000? |
| 11:40.32 | Hobinheim | that's not right |
| 11:40.34 | Hobinheim | where are you reading that |
| 11:40.42 | Adys|afk | village pump, the link kirk posted |
| 11:40.45 | Adys|afk | http://s23.org/wikistats/largest_html.php?sort=views_desc&th=0&lines=200 |
| 11:41.09 | Hobinheim | eww |
| 11:41.10 | Hobinheim | what |
| 11:41.14 | Hobinheim | now i feel awkward |
| 11:41.17 | Hobinheim | why are we up there =) |
| 11:41.19 | Hobinheim | **** =( |
| 11:42.12 | drin | grats on impressive stats : ) |
| 11:42.26 | Adys | something isnt right :P |
| 11:42.32 | Hobinheim | i'm.... very scared |
| 11:43.08 | drin | 300 miljon pageviews :D |
| 11:43.15 | drin | million*? |
| 11:43.37 | Adys | yes |
| 11:43.38 | drin | what does the server itself have to say on this number? |
| 11:43.58 | Adys | well the main page is almost at 20 million |
| 11:44.06 | drin | This page has been accessed 18,453,560 times. |
| 11:44.12 | Hobinheim | MAJILLION!? |
| 11:44.15 | drin | hehe |
| 11:45.14 | Hobinheim | lol check out that stub ratio |
| 11:45.57 | Hobinheim | is that total views? |
| 11:46.04 | Hobinheim | i blame poorly written bots |
| 11:46.19 | Hobinheim | how is it posisble that WP has more edits than views |
| 11:46.30 | Hobinheim | i feel really really awkward now |
| 11:46.33 | Adys | we definetly have 300 000k views |
| 11:46.41 | Adys | but wikipedia stats are not right at ALL |
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| 11:47.14 | Hobinheim | it's probably something stupid like views for THIS CLUSTER |
| 11:47.17 | Hobinheim | and they have like... |
| 11:47.25 | Hobinheim | six clusters |
| 11:47.29 | Hobinheim | that would at least be 60 x 6, 360 |
| 11:47.41 | Adys | thats barely more than us lol |
| 11:48.30 | Hobinheim | well i dunno how many clusters run wikipedia |
| 11:48.46 | Hobinheim | i can't guage how much cajones it actually takes to run a project like that |
| 11:48.56 | Hobinheim | and i wasn't under the impression that wowwiki was all that popular |
| 11:49.13 | Hobinheim | people are always like TB!! WH!!! and then when they say ww, they're like ehhhhhhh |
| 11:49.36 | Hobinheim | ugh |
| 11:49.39 | Hobinheim | 1111 admins? |
| 11:49.42 | Hobinheim | in no way is that good |
| 11:50.17 | Hobinheim | how does one pronounce FFXIclopedia? |
| 11:51.09 | Hobinheim | btw "remove icon in favor of tooltip" is one of the worst requests ever... |
| 11:51.12 | Hobinheim | making a tooltip sucks |
| 11:51.43 | JunkHead-Work | "Eff Eff Ex Eye Klo Pee Dee A" |
| 11:52.18 | amro | Hobinheim: problem is, how do the japanese pronounce it? |
| 11:52.35 | JunkHead-Work | "Eff Eff Ex Eye Kro Pee Dee A" |
| 11:52.56 | Hobinheim | EFUU EXSUUU KURO PEE JAAA desukayo... |
| 11:54.47 | Hobinheim | hah |
| 11:54.51 | Hobinheim | i just realized a flaw in the request |
| 11:54.56 | Hobinheim | tooltip doesn't support spells right |
| 11:55.28 | Adys | you can leave the request tbh |
| 11:55.39 | Adys | we'll get rid of these useless tooltips |
| 11:55.41 | Hobinheim | boo deleted it |
| 11:55.44 | Adys | in favor of xml feeds |
| 11:55.45 | Hobinheim | you think they're useless? |
| 11:55.54 | Hobinheim | xml feeds from where? |
| 11:55.58 | Adys | wh |
| 11:55.59 | Adys | sec |
| 11:56.03 | Hobinheim | how is that possible |
| 11:56.08 | Hobinheim | i mean i know we were talking about it |
| 11:56.13 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Main_Page |
| 11:56.15 | Hobinheim | but it didn't sound like we were going anywhere with it |
| 11:56.17 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/User:Adys |
| 11:56.27 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/ItemID_listing |
| 11:56.39 | Adys | er, sorry, http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/ItemID_Listing |
| 11:56.55 | Hobinheim | wow those work for serious? |
| 11:57.03 | Adys | yeah |
| 11:57.07 | Adys | they just need to be implemented |
| 11:57.13 | Adys | and teomyr is fixing some stuff |
| 11:57.16 | Hobinheim | very sexy |
| 11:57.18 | Hobinheim | very, very sexy |
| 11:57.18 | Adys | with the tooltip extension |
| 11:57.29 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Wowhead_integration too |
| 11:57.37 | Hobinheim | you could have a sick item enumeration page |
| 11:57.41 | Hobinheim | of every item in the game!!! |
| 11:58.00 | Adys | 30000 html requests on preview ftl? :P |
| 11:58.14 | Adys | 75 already made the wiki lag for a minute |
| 11:58.17 | Hobinheim | lol semi transparent |
| 11:58.19 | Hobinheim | very fappage |
| 11:58.21 | Hobinheim | :fap: |
| 11:58.27 | Hobinheim | that's cool |
| 11:59.29 | JunkHead-Work | Ok so... I'm dumb. What does all of that mean? |
| 11:59.53 | Adys | nothing until we got parse functions and a couple of extensions installed |
| 11:59.54 | JunkHead-Work | When you see an item on wowwiki, you can hover your mouse over it and get a tooltip like on wowhead or whatnot? |
| 12:00.18 | Hobinheim | not now |
| 12:00.18 | Hobinheim | but soon! |
| 12:00.18 | JunkHead-Work | I know not now. |
| 12:00.18 | JunkHead-Work | But that is the idea right? |
| 12:00.18 | Adys | yes, one of the advantages |
| 12:00.54 | JunkHead-Work | That is very nice. |
| 12:00.54 | Adys | Kaso you there? |
| 12:01.21 | Kaso | yah |
| 12:01.28 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/User:Adys |
| 12:02.31 | Adys | Whcall is the current template that will be used inside {{Item}} |
| 12:02.32 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php?title=Template:Whcall&action=edit |
| 12:06.08 | Kaso | Im confused Adys |
| 12:06.15 | Adys | mm? |
| 12:06.22 | Adys | http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Main_Page |
| 12:09.26 | Hobinheim | do you guys use the upgraded RC or the regular RC? |
| 12:09.30 | Hobinheim | i hardly use the fancy one ... |
| 12:09.47 | Adys | I use the upgraded one |
| 12:09.55 | Adys | tho i prefer the normal one tbh |
| 12:09.59 | Adys | but im used to it now |
| 12:10.23 | Hobinheim | i gotta go to work soon |
| 12:11.41 | Hobinheim | ok guys, i'm botting on and off before work |
| 12:11.43 | Hobinheim | later |
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| 12:11.48 | Adys | laters |
| 12:12.09 | drin | Adys: who has made the skin for wowwiki? |
| 12:12.18 | Adys | Rustak i think |
| 12:12.23 | drin | Is it public? |
| 12:12.29 | Adys | no clue |
| 12:12.31 | drin | Since I am in need of a dark skin for my wiki : ) |
| 12:12.44 | drin | and it's wow related only for guild use |
| 12:13.12 | Adys | many wikis use it |
| 12:13.14 | Adys | i say go ahead |
| 12:13.34 | abecx | morning |
| 12:14.03 | drin | How can I access it? |
| 12:14.11 | drin | the stylesheet stuff |
| 12:14.19 | Adys | dont ask me |
| 12:14.21 | drin | okay : |
| 12:14.24 | Adys | ive got no clue with css |
| 12:14.26 | drin | Ill mail rustak with my questions : 0 |
| 12:14.35 | drin | what other wiki has this desing, can you give me a link/ |
| 12:14.50 | Adys | server wikis |
| 12:14.56 | Adys | I know the Karazhan EU wiki uses it |
| 12:15.08 | drin | Thanks |
| 12:15.11 | Adys | http://www.karazhan.eu or something |
| 12:15.20 | Adys | sorry, http://www.karazhan.eu/portal/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 12:18.00 | drin | thanks : ) |
| 12:40.23 | Bibi`ouF | today, Bibi kills his bandwith. |
| 12:40.31 | Adys | hehe |
| 12:40.32 | Adys | brb |
| 12:40.47 | Bibi`ouF | i just made a 3000x3000 screenshot |
| 12:45.40 | Adys | lol at the epic bird mount that cant fly |
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| 13:06.19 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 |
| 13:06.21 | Bibi`ouF | here you go ! |
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| 13:28.00 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Outbreak |
| 13:28.05 | dotted | FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! |
| 13:28.15 | dotted | lern2wiki ffs |
| 13:29.37 | winkiller | Bibi`ouF: you don't by chance know what weapon class those warglaives from BT are? |
| 13:29.52 | Bibi`ouF | nop, and probably nobody knows |
| 13:30.10 | Bibi`ouF | i don't really see which kind of weapon's animation it could fit |
| 13:30.22 | winkiller | well, I thought it was maybe in the path or sth :P |
| 13:30.24 | Bibi`ouF | there is no way you'll swing them like a 1h sword or a 1h axe |
| 13:30.36 | Bibi`ouF | nop they're labelled as glaive in the game files |
| 13:30.41 | winkiller | maybe like the twin blades of azzinoth |
| 13:30.47 | winkiller | in those pserver vids |
| 13:30.55 | winkiller | the animations are there, obviously |
| 13:31.11 | winkiller | but then they'd be 1h |
| 13:31.47 | Adys | they are swords technically |
| 13:31.53 | winkiller | yep |
| 13:32.14 | Adys | MAGES CAN USE THEM YAYAYA |
| 13:32.20 | winkiller | but that may change. as there are none _ingame_ afaik |
| 13:32.28 | winkiller | azzinoth doesn't count |
| 13:32.42 | Adys | doubt they'd do a new weapon class |
| 13:37.33 | winkiller | aye |
| 13:37.45 | winkiller | will be swords most likely |
| 13:40.32 | winkiller | dotted: most blue responses also refer to "EU servers", it's kind of official naming: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/278658148.htm |
| 13:40.57 | winkiller | the logical conclusion is to use Servername EU then and not Servername Europe |
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| 13:51.24 | Adys | hm no |
| 13:51.32 | Adys | it doesnt matter, Europe and EU are both fine |
| 13:51.36 | Adys | so pick one and go with it |
| 13:51.41 | winkiller | it has to be consistent |
| 13:51.47 | Adys | yes |
| 13:51.56 | winkiller | I've never seen (Servername_Europe), only _EU |
| 13:52.16 | winkiller | so I guess it's already partly done |
| 13:52.22 | Adys | ask a bot to do the moves please then |
| 13:52.38 | winkiller | I don't really care, I just adapted to what I already saw |
| 13:52.54 | Hobinheim | wait |
| 13:52.57 | Hobinheim | dotted was requesting this |
| 13:53.12 | winkiller | mhm, can you search for /****_Europe) articles? |
| 13:53.24 | winkiller | if anyone bothered to use that at all? |
| 13:53.24 | Hobinheim | no |
| 13:53.26 | Adys | they are categorized |
| 13:53.37 | Hobinheim | you can search for server* articles |
| 13:53.41 | Adys | nope |
| 13:53.49 | Adys | not until Server: is an official namespace |
| 13:53.58 | winkiller | nah, Server:doo_Europe is consistent already |
| 13:54.08 | Hobinheim | well not "search search" but you know just a rough guideline, if any of them happen to start with server |
| 13:54.11 | winkiller | afaik no one created Server:Foo_EU |
| 13:54.27 | winkiller | but all created Guild:Foo_(Server_EU) |
| 13:54.32 | winkiller | that's what I meant |
| 13:55.03 | dotted | winkiller all the servers are _Europe |
| 13:55.14 | winkiller | what I said :) |
| 13:55.28 | winkiller | and most guilds are Guild:name_(Server_EU) |
| 13:55.38 | winkiller | if they are in Guild: at all |
| 13:55.39 | Adys | No |
| 13:55.41 | Adys | yeah |
| 13:55.49 | Adys | Guild: isnt consistent |
| 13:55.51 | dotted | [winkiller]: and most guilds are Guild:name_(Server_EU) <- i disagree |
| 13:56.24 | Adys | guilds should be in Server:Servername_Europe/BLAHTHISISMYGUILD |
| 13:56.48 | winkiller | huh? what about Guild: then? |
| 13:56.49 | dotted | dont you mean Guild::Servername_Europe/BLAHTHISISMYGUILD |
| 13:56.49 | dotted | ? |
| 13:56.52 | dotted | -: |
| 13:57.03 | winkiller | now I'm completely lost, Adys |
| 13:57.03 | Adys | No, Server:Servername Europe |
| 13:57.12 | Adys | guilds should be sub articles of their server |
| 13:57.55 | winkiller | Adys: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Guild_pages#Naming |
| 13:57.55 | dotted | then why create a guild namespace :/? |
| 13:57.55 | Adys | but its never been implemented |
| 13:57.55 | dotted | ...then |
| 13:57.55 | Adys | i didnt say the policy was that way :P |
| 13:57.55 | Adys | i said it should be that way |
| 13:58.00 | winkiller | personal opinion then :P |
| 13:58.14 | winkiller | be careful what people take as granted when an admin says it |
| 13:58.29 | Adys | ya |
| 13:58.46 | dotted | i'd argue it woukld be less work to move guild pages to _Europe than moving Servers to _EU |
| 13:59.46 | winkiller | well, if 99% of servers are in _Europe format and 60% of guilds in _EU then I'd just leave it at that |
| 14:00.02 | winkiller | not change the "right" one to "wrong" format because it's easier |
| 14:00.12 | winkiller | better leave the servers in _Europe |
| 14:00.43 | Adys | yes |
| 14:01.24 | dotted | besides winkiller its called Blizzard Europe not Blizzard EU, so i dont think we will get very far using these arguments ;) |
| 14:01.42 | winkiller | yeah |
| 14:01.42 | winkiller | I know :) |
| 14:01.52 | winkiller | but US/EU is consistent, short and widespread |
| 14:02.01 | winkiller | that's my reasoning for accepting it :P |
| 14:02.09 | Adys | btw i agree it should be EU |
| 14:02.19 | Adys | but servers are Europe atm |
| 14:02.23 | Adys | leave them at that |
| 14:02.23 | dotted | i have not heard Trollbane EU, or whatever other server name being used before :/ |
| 14:02.27 | Adys | for now |
| 14:03.01 | dotted | hmm |
| 14:03.13 | Adys | http://www.stormrage-eu.net/ |
| 14:03.16 | dotted | Oceanic servers arent they named _Oceanic as of now? |
| 14:03.18 | Adys | http://www.karazhan.eu/community/ |
| 14:03.28 | Adys | they are US dotted |
| 14:03.45 | dotted | http://www.trollbane-europe.com |
| 14:03.48 | dotted | fail =P |
| 14:03.53 | Adys | ffs :P |
| 14:04.56 | dotted | i'm sure i have seen _Oceanic used |
| 14:04.59 | dotted | oh well |
| 14:05.49 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Oceanic_Timezone_Servers guess not |
| 14:06.33 | dotted | - The warrior can now only dual wield shields, devastate has been renamed irritate, as the threat is now calculated by how quickly you can smash the shields together to 'make a really irritating noise' |
| 14:06.40 | dotted | LOL |
| 14:06.47 | Adys | lol |
| 14:08.17 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Emerald_Dream_Europe hmmm nice |
| 14:08.41 | dotted | that page is encrypted :/ |
| 14:10.27 | Adys | WTF LOL |
| 14:19.36 | Hobinheim | that's weird |
| 14:19.40 | Hobinheim | the headings are clearly in english |
| 14:21.19 | Hobinheim | are those... |
| 14:21.20 | Hobinheim | bosses? |
| 14:21.29 | Hobinheim | nefarion (sp) |
| 14:21.37 | Hobinheim | oh there's a key |
| 14:21.40 | Hobinheim | i thought it was gibberish |
| 14:21.45 | Hobinheim | jeez dude tables much? |
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| 14:22.09 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Teomyr] by ChanServ |
| 14:22.28 | dotted | <span style="color: white;">A</span><br />[http://www.ancientflame.co.uk/ Ancient Flame]<br />[http://www.undoku.co.uk/avforum Arctic Vikings]<br />Argonautas (Website Under Construction) (Spanish Guild)<br /><br /><span style="color: white;">B</span><br /><br /><span style="color: white;">C</span><br />[http://www.carpemortis.com Carpe Mortis] |
| 14:22.30 | dotted | lol |
| 14:22.32 | Adys | lo teo :D |
| 14:22.38 | Teomyr | hey |
| 14:22.54 | Hobinheim | colon D is a great emoticon |
| 14:22.57 | Hobinheim | very happy guy |
| 14:27.11 | Hobinheim | i was thinking of uploading some goon icons so you guys could see what i'm talking about |
| 14:27.15 | Hobinheim | all we have is =) rihgt? |
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| 14:28.59 | dotted | yesd |
| 14:29.01 | dotted | -d |
| 14:54.57 | Hobinheim | anyone know unix |
| 14:55.02 | Hobinheim | my bot keeps getting killed |
| 14:57.15 | Hobinheim | hah ok i think i got it. i put my bot on the back seat of the bus |
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| 15:20.37 | TecnoBrat | Wow, that server page is horrible |
| 15:24.37 | Bagginsww | gg, it annoys me how many people create pages for the random character they encountered in Warcraft III, when certain encounters are randomized and can be any of several assorted characters :p |
| 15:24.55 | Bagginsww | they act like their encounter is definitive version |
| 15:25.47 | Hobinheim | Bagginsww, example? |
| 15:25.52 | Bibi`ouF | Me is sad, me can't find informations about his 4 dragons. |
| 15:25.58 | Bagginsww | check out the page I jsut deleted |
| 15:26.06 | Bagginsww | deleted "Jinto Reedwine": content was: '{{Stub/Mob}}'''Jinto Reedwine''' is a pandaren brewmaster hero that can be obtained for the party by completing the secret level of [[Warcraf...' (and the only contributor was 'Varghedin')) |
| 15:27.02 | Bagginsww | compare to http://www.wowwiki.com/Secret_pandaren |
| 15:27.11 | Hobinheim | redirect? |
| 15:27.15 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.thottbot.com/test?s=insidion http://www.thottbot.com/test?s=obsidia http://www.thottbot.com/test?s=furywing http://www.thottbot.com/test?s=rivendark |
| 15:27.19 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know who these 4 dragons are ? |
| 15:27.22 | Hobinheim | might as well make the table of names from war3 redirects |
| 15:27.30 | Hobinheim | Bibi`ouF, where are you getting this list? |
| 15:27.47 | Bibi`ouF | Hobinheim : from quest item i found by doing naughty things with the PTR server |
| 15:28.02 | Bibi`ouF | basically you get one scale from each one of this dragon |
| 15:28.07 | Bibi`ouF | to create a cloak |
| 15:28.23 | Hobinheim | Bibi`ouF is naughty! |
| 15:28.54 | Bibi`ouF | well basically, i crashed my account more than 300 times on the PTR in the past 3 days |
| 15:28.56 | Bibi`ouF | :p |
| 15:29.18 | Hobinheim | well it says blade's edge no |
| 15:29.20 | Hobinheim | is that accessible? |
| 15:29.30 | Hobinheim | why don't you do a write up about it |
| 15:29.42 | Hobinheim | world first journalism |
| 15:29.58 | Bibi`ouF | i spend the last 3 days doing world first journalism :p |
| 15:30.54 | Adys | lol |
| 15:31.22 | Bagginsww | really why would I redirect every single named pandaren to secret pandaren? |
| 15:31.52 | Bagginsww | those names are randomized with mercenary camps, and other pandaren encounters in the game as well, like the ones Garithos sends out to defeat the blood elves. |
| 15:32.43 | Bibi`ouF | i had a world first panda news today. |
| 15:33.32 | Hobinheim | Bagginsww, i thought it was locked to the 10 or so names list, like the othe rheroes |
| 15:33.35 | Hobinheim | panda? |
| 15:33.57 | Bagginsww | well yes there is aobut 10 names for pandaren yes |
| 15:34.03 | Bagginsww | not counting chen stormstoute |
| 15:34.07 | Bagginsww | his name is fixed |
| 15:34.59 | Hobinheim | oh chen.... you wily alcoholic bear... |
| 15:35.09 | Bagginsww | anycase the mercenary camps, garithos pandaren, secret pandaren, and possibly the one that helps the night elves out (if you find it), have random generated names from those 10 names |
| 15:38.01 | Hobinheim | yay i found a flag to make my bot not get killed |
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| 15:45.43 | Adys | GAAAHH |
| 15:45.51 | Adys | I WANT TO DELETE ALL THESE USELESS ITEM PAGES |
| 15:46.52 | Hobinheim | which pages? |
| 15:46.57 | Hobinheim | all of htem? |
| 15:47.22 | Hobinheim | what's stopping you? you've got THE POWAH!!! |
| 15:48.16 | Hobinheim | wow there are a lot of items on the wiki :( |
| 15:54.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tatsa_Sweetbarrow that one needs to be confirmed |
| 15:55.00 | Bagginsww | it could be a random named pandaren |
| 15:55.15 | Hobinheim | tatsa? |
| 15:55.19 | Bagginsww | in which case that should be renamed, to "Broken Isles pandaren |
| 15:55.20 | Hobinheim | sounds like a sassy lady |
| 15:55.26 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 16:03.05 | Hobinheim | why won't these items end |
| 16:03.14 | Hobinheim | i mean i know i'm using a bot but jeez it's taking FOR EH VER |
| 16:04.53 | TecnoBrat | I always wondered why items would be in the wiki |
| 16:05.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Morning |
| 16:05.14 | TecnoBrat | Seems like its better for them to stay in wowhead/thottbot/allahkazam |
| 16:05.18 | TecnoBrat | same with quests |
| 16:05.20 | TecnoBrat | but meh |
| 16:05.28 | Adys | lo kirk |
| 16:05.32 | Hobinheim | we offer edited commentary |
| 16:05.35 | Hobinheim | that's our strength |
| 16:05.44 | Hobinheim | ot: chance on hit, has that been normalized for everything? |
| 16:05.51 | Kirkburn | Quests work reasonably well on the wiki, but common items not so much |
| 16:05.54 | Hobinheim | or are CoHs always better for rogues and speed attackers? |
| 16:06.15 | Hobinheim | yes, non-noteworthy items are almost a weakness |
| 16:06.18 | Kirkburn | Problem is, we can have lots of commentary on special items, thus needed the pages on the wiki ... but then, where does one draw the line? :) |
| 16:06.28 | Hobinheim | some editors even make stuff up about items. "this cheese is DELICIOUS!" |
| 16:06.30 | Bagginsww | yep its another random generated pandaren |
| 16:06.43 | Hobinheim | Bagginsww, how did you confirm? play the level? |
| 16:06.52 | Bagginsww | exactly |
| 16:06.55 | Bagginsww | I got a different pandaren |
| 16:07.03 | TecnoBrat | Just write a bot to import the whole allahkazam db :P |
| 16:07.18 | Hobinheim | alla feels scummy |
| 16:07.20 | Bagginsww | I got mushi, ale-hearth heh |
| 16:07.20 | Adys | dont even think about importing anything from allakazham |
| 16:07.23 | Hobinheim | i still haven't used my free membership |
| 16:07.29 | TecnoBrat | Adys, I was joking lol |
| 16:07.32 | Kirkburn | "Fang of Vashj works well with pizza. Lightly sautee, serve with fresh salad. Recommended for tauren rogues." |
| 16:07.38 | Hobinheim | when i look at alla, i feel like i need to be decursed |
| 16:08.14 | Hobinheim | :mad: |
| 16:08.17 | Kirkburn | What have I missed today Adys? |
| 16:08.23 | Hobinheim | how come when tekkub and sky make edits they don't get reverted |
| 16:08.25 | Hobinheim | don't revert it! |
| 16:08.26 | Adys | you missed me, sweety |
| 16:08.36 | Hobinheim | you missed me and adys at odds this morning |
| 16:08.36 | Kirkburn | Apart from you, hun |
| 16:08.48 | TecnoBrat | dammit ... why do guilds need to kill bosses in the wrong order in SSC |
| 16:08.50 | Adys | and thats pretty much it :P |
| 16:08.58 | Kirkburn | Over Zeal's cats I bet |
| 16:08.58 | TecnoBrat | makes hard to display it in a nice progression table :P |
| 16:09.06 | Hobinheim | i felt so productive. woke up early, botted, ... |
| 16:09.12 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn is also a psychic. |
| 16:09.18 | Adys | ah btw kirk |
| 16:09.23 | Kirkburn | Who won? ;) |
| 16:09.27 | Hobinheim | i'm at work... chillin... bottin... |
| 16:09.28 | Adys | guess =) |
| 16:09.36 | Hobinheim | well i did my deed. and adys had a point |
| 16:09.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 16:09.52 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, thanks for removing the attribution crap too |
| 16:10.13 | Adys | I deleted all the vandal userpages with {{permablockeduser}} and {{indefblockeduser}} |
| 16:10.16 | Adys | all the Lucky 69 crap |
| 16:10.40 | Adys | I kept User:Lucky_6.9's page and subst'd permablockeduser tho |
| 16:10.42 | Hobinheim | oh lucky 69... you wily alcoholic bear... |
| 16:10.43 | Adys | I found it funny :P |
| 16:11.07 | Hobinheim | CAN I GETS AMDIN? THIS IS LUCKY 69 FROM WIKIPEDIA |
| 16:11.10 | Kirkburn | I told you that Lucky 6.9 left wikipedia soon after? |
| 16:11.15 | Adys | yup |
| 16:11.20 | Hobinheim | really? why? |
| 16:11.26 | Kirkburn | Bureaucracy bites |
| 16:11.29 | Adys | wikistress lol |
| 16:11.43 | Hobinheim | ugh user page not found |
| 16:11.44 | Kirkburn | Yeah, wikistress was her term for it :P |
| 16:11.46 | Hobinheim | six point nine? |
| 16:12.02 | Hobinheim | aww booo user has left |
| 16:12.03 | Hobinheim | yuck |
| 16:12.59 | Kirkburn | Urgh, my Vista PC is going weird on me :/ |
| 16:13.02 | Hobinheim | you know there are over 1000 wp admins |
| 16:13.12 | Hobinheim | where are your fancy vista tools now!!! |
| 16:13.14 | Hobinheim | mwahaha |
| 16:13.21 | Kirkburn | I think it's the hardware :/ |
| 16:13.38 | Hobinheim | why would it get weird all of a sudden? you didn't do anything |
| 16:13.56 | Kirkburn | It was in sleep mode, when I woke it, nothing appeared on the screen |
| 16:14.27 | Kirkburn | Turned it off, on again, weird screen stuff appeared, hit the PC, now it's slowly logging in |
| 16:14.50 | Kirkburn | Actually, I think it may have been a sleep mode error |
| 16:16.21 | Hobinheim | speaking of food |
| 16:16.31 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, baskin robins was offering free ice cream the other day |
| 16:16.36 | Hobinheim | so i got PHISH FOOD |
| 16:16.38 | Hobinheim | it was good. |
| 16:16.49 | Hobinheim | i thought it was going to taste like vanilla icecream and fruity pebbles |
| 16:16.56 | Bibi`ouF | Blizzard really need new artists |
| 16:16.56 | Hobinheim | but it's actually choclate based |
| 16:17.06 | Hobinheim | Bibi`ouF, why? |
| 16:17.26 | Bibi`ouF | their habit of color changing already existing models for new items is getting annoying |
| 16:17.43 | Hobinheim | well... it's hard to come up with SO many unique models |
| 16:17.49 | Hobinheim | and it's very developer friendly |
| 16:17.58 | Hobinheim | i like our "fake items" page |
| 16:18.02 | Hobinheim | where you can look the part =) |
| 16:18.13 | Hobinheim | as a testement to the new trend |
| 16:21.14 | Adys | Here is the thing. |
| 16:21.26 | Adys | We should no longer have item pages at all, any |
| 16:21.28 | Adys | However |
| 16:21.33 | TecnoBrat | Anyone have a better suggestion on how to handle bosses killed out of order in SSC? http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Korgath_US#TBC_Progression |
| 16:21.48 | Adys | We should have pages for important stuff, such as known items, questlines etc |
| 16:21.51 | Kirkburn | Bored of reading it all now |
| 16:22.07 | Adys | these should not be named by the name of the item |
| 16:22.10 | Kirkburn | Btw, wikipedia's view stats aren't correct because they stopped reporting it |
| 16:22.29 | Hobinheim | guitar hero anybody? |
| 16:22.30 | Kirkburn | You won't find the info on their statistics page |
| 16:22.34 | Adys | For example |
| 16:22.41 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 16:22.48 | Adys | should be the page for the questline and stuff |
| 16:22.57 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, why did they stop. losers... |
| 16:22.57 | Kirkburn | Phish food is mmm, tasty, Hobinheim :) |
| 16:23.00 | Adys | Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian should be deleted |
| 16:23.06 | Hobinheim | i know you reco'ed it a wihle back |
| 16:23.11 | Hobinheim | no, i think we should have item articles |
| 16:23.22 | Hobinheim | just because we aren't the best resource doesn't mean we still can't be one at alll |
| 16:23.30 | Adys | Kirkburn: opinion? |
| 16:23.32 | Kirkburn | Like I said earlier <Kirkburn> Problem is, we can have lots of commentary on special items, thus needed the pages on the wiki ... but then, where does one draw the line? :) |
| 16:23.36 | Hobinheim | and local copies are always easier to work with than some foreign thing |
| 16:23.38 | Hobinheim | it's a purity issue |
| 16:23.45 | Adys | Well, theres no line basically |
| 16:23.53 | Adys | Do we need one? |
| 16:23.55 | Hobinheim | technically, we should have pages on poor items as wel |
| 16:24.00 | Adys | yes |
| 16:24.08 | Adys | as we are, we should |
| 16:24.16 | Adys | Here is the thing, there is no line |
| 16:24.23 | Adys | Items should not be added because they exist |
| 16:24.29 | Adys | but because there is something special about them |
| 16:24.36 | Hobinheim | no, there shouldn't be a line |
| 16:24.38 | Adys | because WE can say something our external links cant |
| 16:24.41 | Hobinheim | warcraft is a very databasey game |
| 16:24.56 | Adys | that is how i think it now |
| 16:24.59 | Adys | the original idea |
| 16:25.09 | Hobinheim | sorry my train of thought is getting wrecked cuz my net is cutting out again |
| 16:25.12 | Kirkburn | Bibi`ouF, floaty felhound thingies?! |
| 16:25.14 | Adys | would have been to make a page for everything and handle tooltips AND multitooltips by xml feeds |
| 16:25.34 | Hobinheim | that's fine |
| 16:25.44 | Bibi`ouF | Kirkburn : I don't really know what they are exactly, but they are staves |
| 16:25.50 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/loading/BlackTemple.jpg COOL |
| 16:25.52 | Bibi`ouF | It seems they are class-quest rewards |
| 16:25.54 | Adys | seriously <3 |
| 16:25.55 | Kirkburn | That's a STAVE? |
| 16:26.04 | Bibi`ouF | yup |
| 16:26.08 | Adys | staff* |
| 16:26.22 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/loading/Hyjal.jpg is nice too but it looks like its an ingame screenshot |
| 16:27.02 | Kirkburn | *STAFF |
| 16:27.06 | Kirkburn | ;) |
| 16:27.12 | Hobinheim | maybe stave is british |
| 16:27.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | AMG! Is that Montana? |
| 16:27.16 | Bibi`ouF | actually |
| 16:27.23 | Bibi`ouF | it's fun because the staff model is labeled as _warrior_ |
| 16:27.36 | Bibi`ouF | which probably means it's one of the class quest reward |
| 16:27.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | WoW Expansion Pack 2: Yellowstone National Park |
| 16:27.43 | Hobinheim | see how behind i am |
| 16:27.45 | Bibi`ouF | but the icon is labeled as Hyjal |
| 16:28.05 | Adys | hahaha |
| 16:28.15 | Hobinheim | what staff were you looking at? |
| 16:29.00 | Bibi`ouF | so basically, you'll probably get a tier 5 weapon in Hyjal, to reward you after you completed the two instances dropping the armor |
| 16:29.00 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bt/hellfire-encased-pendant.jpg kek, what did i say about bringing imbalance back into items |
| 16:29.07 | Kirkburn | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/weapon_3000.jpg |
| 16:29.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wildhammer_dwarves faction rewards section needs to be reworked, right? seeing as the faction no longe rexsists |
| 16:29.22 | Kirkburn | ^ Hob |
| 16:36.03 | Bagginsww | maybe I should add a "removed from game" |
| 16:36.03 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 16:36.03 | Adys | where? |
| 16:36.03 | Bagginsww | ahhi ts alreayd there I see |
| 16:36.03 | Bagginsww | just wasn't high enough in the article |
| 16:36.03 | Bibi`ouF | actually |
| 16:36.03 | Bibi`ouF | 18:29:21] STOR weapon_3000.jpg |
| 16:36.03 | Bibi`ouF | [18:29:21] 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for weapon_3000.jpg |
| 16:36.03 | Bibi`ouF | updating it right now :p |
| 16:36.03 | Bibi`ouF | [18:29:52] Transferred: weapon_3000.jpg 2,81 MB in 31,61 (90,94 KBps) |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | Only [[dwarf]] players can check the little "At War" box. really? |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | interesting |
| 16:36.04 | Bibi`ouF | done ^^ added the northrend sword different colors at the bottom right |
| 16:36.04 | Kirkburn | I like the dual lightsabery things :P |
| 16:36.04 | Kirkburn | I wish they're redo some of the staff attack animations |
| 16:36.04 | Bagginsww | I'm surprised no one ever pointed out that pandaren share shamanism with draenei and wildhammer dwarves. So I added that in |
| 16:36.04 | Kirkburn | Half the time you're just poking your foe |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | At [[Friendly]], the Wildhammer Clan rewards you with 10% discount on flights going out of Aerie Peak. |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | At [[Honored]] you get 10% discount on items at the vendor in Aerie Peak. |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | what a load of bs |
| 16:36.04 | Bibi`ouF | wildhammers dwarves practice shamanism ? |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | whats with the friendly discount lol |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | demon hunter style glaives, what category weapon is that? |
| 16:36.05 | Bibi`ouF | well, in my opinion, they'll probably add a glaive category |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | uhh |
| 16:36.05 | Bibi`ouF | the models are labeled as "glaive" and i don't see how they could fit the animation to any of the existing category |
| 16:36.05 | Adys | Wow |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | what? |
| 16:36.05 | Adys | Kirk, nice change on redirect page |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | wait so no one can equip them except mobs? |
| 16:36.05 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | are they weapon models? |
| 16:36.05 | Adys | hop hop, Im a bunny |
| 16:36.05 | Bibi`ouF | well atm it's not sure |
| 16:36.05 | Hobinheim | like... uhh i dunno what classifies a weapon |
| 16:36.06 | Hobinheim | are mount points contrlled by the wowviewer excel file or are they ar epart of the model |
| 16:36.06 | Hobinheim | i.e. does it mount to the hilt |
| 16:36.06 | Bibi`ouF | don't know |
| 16:36.06 | Hobinheim | like druid cat forms have a riding mount in the right place |
| 16:36.06 | Hobinheim | that's hilarious |
| 16:36.06 | Adys | I want to delete more stuff plx |
| 16:36.06 | Hobinheim | even though gnomes can't ride on their back |
| 16:38.08 | Hobinheim | freakin rare item template.... |
| 16:40.31 | Adys | First proposal |
| 16:40.39 | Adys | Delete all gems |
| 16:40.48 | Adys | Make a listing page |
| 16:40.59 | Hobinheim | gems are items are they not? |
| 16:41.02 | Adys | Use feeds for uses etc |
| 16:41.03 | Adys | yes |
| 16:41.09 | Hobinheim | then you can't get rid of them! mwahahhaaha |
| 16:41.15 | Adys | >.> |
| 16:42.34 | Adys | ok maybe its a bit too heavy |
| 16:43.50 | Hobinheim | looking at the gems page gives me a color-seizure |
| 16:43.53 | Gryphen | no reason to be delete happy |
| 16:46.09 | Adys | ello skosiris |
| 16:46.17 | Adys | here we go again |
| 16:46.38 | vlad_ | Hobinheim: did you ever make any more template edits last night? |
| 16:46.42 | vlad_ | oh boy yes you did |
| 16:46.47 | vlad_ | job queue is at 10,620 |
| 16:46.56 | Hobinheim | yay birthday acake at work and it's not my birthday |
| 16:46.59 | vlad_ | well, I guess the queue is working |
| 16:47.00 | Hobinheim | wait... |
| 16:47.03 | Hobinheim | job queue |
| 16:47.07 | Hobinheim | like it suspends the edits until later? |
| 16:47.17 | Hobinheim | btw hey vlad_ :) |
| 16:47.29 | vlad_ | nah, it piggybacks a portion of the updates caused by template changes to other requests |
| 16:47.39 | Adys | when you actually remove stuff in the <noinclude> you do that too |
| 16:47.43 | Adys | which sucks |
| 16:47.45 | Hobinheim | jeez |
| 16:47.51 | Adys | and I guess removing all attributions didnt help did it :P |
| 16:47.52 | Hobinheim | i thought mw should have had that feature |
| 16:47.54 | Hobinheim | good that it exists |
| 16:47.58 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 16:48.05 | Hobinheim | then yes vlad_ i made lots of edits and i too am glad that it's working |
| 16:48.06 | Kirkburn | This is why I said we should have documenation trancluded into the template pages |
| 16:48.11 | Hobinheim | at least we're not using exists |
| 16:48.11 | vlad_ | it was always enabled, but the problem was that it was trying to do too many queued jobs per request below |
| 16:48.15 | Hobinheim | THAT brought down the wiki hard core |
| 16:48.16 | Kirkburn | But no, no-one listened to me |
| 16:48.20 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 16:48.28 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, it's good for high traffick templates |
| 16:48.31 | Adys | uhm kirk |
| 16:48.33 | vlad_ | I dropped the number of jobs-per-request to something lower |
| 16:48.34 | Hobinheim | i say do it on a per-case basis |
| 16:48.40 | Adys | if you transclude the doc into a template |
| 16:48.41 | vlad_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Statistics <- keep an eye on that job queue number |
| 16:48.47 | Hobinheim | so when you say request, like when someone strikes the wiki? |
| 16:48.49 | vlad_ | if it gets ridiculous yell at me or something |
| 16:48.49 | Hobinheim | like with a view? |
| 16:48.51 | Adys | when you update the doc, it updates the template, which updates, all templates, etc |
| 16:49.10 | Hobinheim | adys does have a point |
| 16:49.11 | Kirkburn | Or on the talk page |
| 16:49.17 | Hobinheim | but at the same time, it's a non-contributing edit |
| 16:49.19 | Adys | y talk page i agree |
| 16:49.24 | Hobinheim | or it should be a little smarter about it |
| 16:49.25 | Hobinheim | you know |
| 16:49.32 | Adys | yeah |
| 16:49.34 | Hobinheim | vlad_, good to see you |
| 16:49.41 | Hobinheim | and the cake is helping too |
| 16:49.48 | vlad_ | mm, cake |
| 16:49.56 | vlad_ | wonder when I get my brithday cake at the office |
| 16:50.02 | vlad_ | i'm probably going to miss it |
| 16:50.08 | Kirkburn | Hey, did that mean the wiki never went down whilst Hob was going crazy? |
| 16:50.11 | Adys | vlad, that means editing a high traffic template no longer brings down the wiki for 10 mins? |
| 16:50.16 | vlad_ | right |
| 16:50.21 | Adys | kirk sweety stop typing faster than me |
| 16:50.28 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:50.30 | Hobinheim | it went down for the larger templates |
| 16:50.37 | Hobinheim | but it when right back up shortly |
| 16:50.39 | Kirkburn | vlad_, ... happy birthday? |
| 16:51.07 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, happy birthday! |
| 16:51.12 | vlad_ | Kirkburn: nah, not for another week or so |
| 16:51.18 | Hobinheim | :toot: |
| 16:51.20 | Kirkburn | Mine's 26th |
| 16:51.23 | Kirkburn | Yours? |
| 16:51.42 | Kirkburn | Adys, I'm trying to get rid of that damn colon on the edit summary thing, can't :/ |
| 16:51.49 | Adys | yep, i know |
| 16:51.57 | Adys | I was thinking of doing it the hax way |
| 16:52.04 | Adys | color: #333333 |
| 16:52.07 | Adys | etc :) |
| 16:52.19 | Kirkburn | The colon is separate though |
| 16:52.31 | Adys | yes but maybe we can include it beetween two things |
| 16:52.41 | Hobinheim | i was also bugged by that colon |
| 16:52.45 | Hobinheim | why don't you just work with it |
| 16:52.46 | Kirkburn | I assume you added the break because the edit summary went onto one line? |
| 16:52.48 | Hobinheim | Edit Summary: |
| 16:53.03 | Adys | because it was ugly in general, even more for low res |
| 16:53.14 | Kirkburn | How was it ugly for low res? |
| 16:53.14 | Hobinheim | or Feh: |
| 16:53.16 | Hobinheim | or Meh: |
| 16:54.18 | Adys | basically you had the edit box on the left and the summary going towards the right making it look weird |
| 16:54.34 | Kirkburn | urgh |
| 16:54.53 | Kirkburn | Gonna fiddle some more |
| 16:56.06 | Hobinheim | you know who's a crazy editor, hobinbot, it's like he's a robot or something |
| 16:56.17 | Kirkburn | Er, better now? |
| 16:56.25 | Kirkburn | Someone else want to take a crack at it? |
| 16:56.40 | Adys | yeah its fine here |
| 16:57.12 | Gryphen | gross lookin cake adys |
| 16:57.17 | Adys | thanks |
| 16:57.21 | Adys | All contributions are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 (see WoWWiki:Copyrights for details). <- move that |
| 16:57.24 | Hobinheim | lemmme |
| 16:57.25 | Hobinheim | see |
| 16:57.39 | Kirkburn | To the Please Note section? |
| 16:58.15 | Kirkburn | Actually wait, that'll be hard |
| 16:58.32 | Kirkburn | That is specifically the copyright box |
| 16:58.54 | vlad_ | ugh, FDL is the biggest mistake I ever made |
| 16:59.00 | vlad_ | the license just doesn't really make sense |
| 16:59.02 | Adys | fdl? |
| 16:59.04 | Adys | ah |
| 16:59.06 | vlad_ | Free Doc License |
| 16:59.30 | vlad_ | should've been Creative Commons with Attribution |
| 17:00.10 | Hobinheim | change it? |
| 17:00.14 | vlad_ | hard |
| 17:00.38 | vlad_ | well, hard to change it so that the change is fully legal and all that stuff |
| 17:00.56 | vlad_ | because to really do it you have to get approval from all past contributors for the license change |
| 17:00.57 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, how do you know which page controls editing like that |
| 17:01.05 | Kirkburn | Special:Allmessages |
| 17:01.15 | vlad_ | however, what I was thinking of doing is just saying "All edits from date D are under the Creative Commons license |
| 17:01.37 | vlad_ | ok, gotta pay attention to meeting now, bbiab |
| 17:01.41 | Gryphen | not sure anyone would care if it covered previous heh |
| 17:01.44 | Adys | see ya |
| 17:02.01 | Gryphen | license means nothing to all but like 3 people |
| 17:02.28 | Hobinheim | byaaaab |
| 17:02.29 | Hobinheim | byaaaab |
| 17:02.36 | Gryphen | moo |
| 17:03.05 | Gryphen | Hobinheim been sheeped |
| 17:07.26 | Kirkburn | I just can't make the edit summary bit look nice |
| 17:07.30 | Kirkburn | Bloody ":" |
| 17:07.38 | Kirkburn | I give up |
| 17:07.57 | Kirkburn | "The job queue length is currently 9,543.", yay down |
| 17:08.00 | Hobinheim | is there a secret to being a good druid |
| 17:08.09 | Hobinheim | maybe i should give it another chance |
| 17:08.30 | Kirkburn | Please, someone have some inspiration over the edit summary thing :) |
| 17:08.48 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, dunno, my housemate loves it |
| 17:08.49 | Hobinheim | why is it so... big |
| 17:09.03 | Hobinheim | so noisy |
| 17:09.12 | Gryphen | Edit Summary: |
| 17:09.14 | Gryphen | there |
| 17:09.39 | Kirkburn | Without the sentence above? |
| 17:09.47 | Kirkburn | "Please briefly describe the changes you have made" |
| 17:10.04 | Gryphen | whatever heh, it all gets glazed over |
| 17:10.07 | Hobinheim | the entire page is noisy |
| 17:10.12 | Hobinheim | Gryphen, exactly |
| 17:12.10 | Kirkburn | That's why I made it large and green :P |
| 17:13.26 | Hobinheim | the key to noise reduction isn't to be louder =P |
| 17:13.42 | Kirkburn | Okay, simplified some of the stuff that appears - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Summary&action=edit |
| 17:14.22 | Hobinheim | i guess there are dumb europeans like there are dumb americans right? |
| 17:14.32 | Hobinheim | how do you deal with a friend (mate?) that's self-absorbed |
| 17:18.17 | Kirkburn | Tell him to stop being such a dick? :) |
| 17:18.33 | Kirkburn | (yes, 'mate' was the correct terminology :) |
| 17:19.07 | Hobinheim | well you know in the us mate has a differnet connotation |
| 17:19.11 | Hobinheim | we ain't mates |
| 17:19.42 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, would you just give it straight to someone like that? |
| 17:19.49 | Hobinheim | Oy! Stop bein' a freaggin dick! |
| 17:19.54 | Hobinheim | what's a good local word for dick |
| 17:20.11 | Adys | Asshat |
| 17:20.27 | Gryphen | sounded more aussie there hob |
| 17:20.28 | Gryphen | heh |
| 17:21.11 | Hobinheim | my best friend, he's british, he says oy |
| 17:21.19 | Hobinheim | so when i answer the phone and its him, i always say oy |
| 17:22.02 | Kirkburn | "Oi" would be better :) |
| 17:22.22 | Kirkburn | (that how we ... spell it) |
| 17:22.24 | Hobinheim | aussie in the office says "wankers" |
| 17:23.18 | Kirkburn | Here's a page for people to improve: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning&action=edit |
| 17:23.52 | Hobinheim | you're the one who originally sexified it, no? |
| 17:24.02 | Hobinheim | yeah man that was all you |
| 17:24.04 | Kirkburn | The copyright bit should stay, but the right box text? |
| 17:24.10 | Kirkburn | ...could be improved |
| 17:24.21 | Hobinheim | i dunno |
| 17:24.27 | Hobinheim | if i had my way, i'd get rid of a LOT of stuff |
| 17:24.29 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:24.32 | Hobinheim | streamline it towards experienced editors |
| 17:24.37 | Hobinheim | and leave the beginner stuff at the door |
| 17:25.23 | Kirkburn | I've already moved a reasonable amount of stuff to the bottom "please note" section |
| 17:26.19 | Hobinheim | i wish admining wikis could be put on a resume |
| 17:26.25 | Hobinheim | technical writing, web site administration... |
| 17:26.25 | Bagginsww | Kirkburn going to scan up a couple of picturs showing Pandaren with alliance members, or fighting horde. |
| 17:26.29 | Hobinheim | dealing with dumb people... |
| 17:26.59 | Bagginsww | besides Chen not much content or artwork showing pandaren fightnig alliance :p |
| 17:27.07 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, yes, it can be |
| 17:27.38 | Kirkburn | As long as it's appropriate, else written in the "other interests" section, it well deserves to be mentioned |
| 17:27.42 | Gryphen | you can put, ran a lemonade stand on a resume |
| 17:28.26 | Kirkburn | Doing this type of stuff is well worth mentioning, interacting with many new people, diplomacy, working together, etc, etc |
| 17:32.16 | Kirkburn | I go away to put food in and ... well, I thought at least one person would dissent :P |
| 17:33.12 | Gryphen | i wouldnt have it on mine |
| 17:33.13 | Gryphen | heh |
| 17:33.26 | Gryphen | depends on the work you are looking for |
| 18:03.35 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Pandarenbattle.jpg |
| 18:03.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Pandarenbattle2.jpg |
| 18:04.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes... make the orcs the bad guys :p |
| 18:05.00 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 18:06.07 | Adys | I need a non admin |
| 18:06.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | me! |
| 18:06.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | :D |
| 18:06.24 | *** join/#wowwiki Hobinheim (n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 18:06.25 | Adys | anyone around can check http://www.wowwiki.com/Glyph_of_Arcane_Power and tell me if they see a white band at the bottom? |
| 18:06.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | although I do admin another IRC channell.... |
| 18:06.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 18:06.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | no white band Adys |
| 18:06.47 | Adys | ok |
| 18:06.50 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim] by ChanServ |
| 18:07.12 | Hobinheim | what channel? #tuqui? |
| 18:07.13 | Adys | ffs |
| 18:07.16 | Hobinheim | i see a white band |
| 18:07.27 | Adys | what are we gonna do with all these items.. |
| 18:07.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | it might be my browser then :< |
| 18:07.39 | Adys | its not |
| 18:07.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | Im on SafariMac |
| 18:07.41 | Adys | hob is admin |
| 18:07.47 | Adys | its the Undelete blah blah |
| 18:08.14 | Hobinheim | adys just leave them |
| 18:08.19 | Hobinheim | you're about to have an e-anurism |
| 18:08.35 | Adys | its silly and useless having them |
| 18:08.39 | Adys | but, we do need to reference them |
| 18:08.51 | Adys | oh, ffs |
| 18:08.56 | Adys | Teomyr, beep |
| 18:09.09 | Teomyr | ? |
| 18:09.18 | Adys | hows the tooltip trigger fix going? |
| 18:09.37 | Teomyr | didn't do anything on that extension yet |
| 18:09.51 | Adys | ill be back in 25 minutes, off to watch something |
| 18:10.38 | Bagginsww | so as a rule is it one picture per section, in the race idea article? |
| 18:11.39 | winkiller | no white thing |
| 18:11.44 | winkiller | just a <hr> |
| 18:11.52 | winkiller | arg, deleted even |
| 18:20.12 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Infinite_Dragonflight#Alingment |
| 18:24.52 | *** join/#wowwiki Patrigan (n=iron_pla@36.53-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:25.03 | Patrigan | yay, finally took the time to change my sig! |
| 18:26.26 | Patrigan | Strange though. http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Signature/The_Sig_Parade here it implements a blank line after mys ig and strangely enough, only there... |
| 18:28.58 | Patrigan | the silence is really awkward :( |
| 18:29.14 | zeeg | that page didnt load for me |
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| 18:29.54 | Patrigan | hmmm my fault |
| 18:29.57 | Patrigan | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Signature |
| 18:30.00 | Patrigan | scroll down please :) |
| 18:33.21 | zeeg | its most likely because of the line height issues |
| 18:33.37 | Patrigan | hmmm |
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| 18:33.45 | Patrigan | remarkable :o |
| 18:33.49 | Patrigan | ah well |
| 18:34.01 | Patrigan | prolly someone wil fix the error when they get irritated by it |
| 18:34.06 | Patrigan | for now it = Pwns |
| 18:36.05 | winkiller | yikes |
| 18:36.08 | winkiller | that's colorful |
| 18:36.13 | winkiller | hello Mr.Sandwichman |
| 18:37.41 | winkiller | and I hate it when people put an extra useless space in front inside the link :P (not you though) |
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| 18:41.23 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm that doesnt look like its your signature's fault |
| 18:41.44 | TecnoBrat | after your sig, it closes the <li> |
| 18:41.46 | TecnoBrat | </li></ul><p><br /></p><ul><li> |
| 18:43.06 | TecnoBrat | but I dunno, I'm a wiki noob |
| 18:45.22 | winkiller | Patrigan: where's your source? |
| 18:45.41 | Kirkburn | TecnoBrat, they all do that |
| 18:46.28 | zeeg | strange html |
| 18:46.29 | zeeg | :P |
| 18:46.38 | Kirkburn | Fixed it though, just got rid of the space on the page |
| 18:47.16 | Kirkburn | zeeg, it's to separate them out a bit, normally it wouldn't do that:) |
| 18:47.33 | Kirkburn | (normally /I/ wouldn't do it either) |
| 18:47.54 | zeeg | could just add a style to the ul |
| 18:47.56 | zeeg | for list padding |
| 18:48.15 | zeeg | ul.someclassname li { margin: 3px 0; } |
| 18:48.18 | Kirkburn | No CSS access yet |
| 18:48.21 | zeeg | oh |
| 18:48.32 | Kirkburn | It's coming, though |
| 18:49.10 | Kirkburn | Wow, it's amazing what making a page easier to edit does ... "Future |
| 18:49.34 | Kirkburn | "Future race ideas" is getting loads of new stuff :D |
| 18:49.55 | zeeg | curse.com slow for anyone on the "connecting" phase? |
| 18:50.29 | Adys | lol, Tecnobrat's sig is such a copypaste :p |
| 18:51.13 | Adys | I like montag's, Kiltek's, ClydeJr's, Gryphen's and Teomyr's sigs |
| 18:51.24 | Kirkburn | *cough* |
| 18:51.27 | Gryphen | mines ugly |
| 18:51.30 | zeeg | Gryphen's is ugly ;) |
| 18:51.32 | zeeg | haha |
| 18:51.33 | Adys | noes |
| 18:51.37 | Kirkburn | Gryphen is ugly |
| 18:51.41 | Adys | the tc is barely visible |
| 18:51.43 | Adys | but i like it :< |
| 18:51.51 | Gryphen | :/ |
| 18:51.58 | Gryphen | ive spent no time on it at all |
| 18:52.01 | Gryphen | it sucks |
| 18:52.03 | Gryphen | hah |
| 18:52.05 | Adys | my preferred is prob Kiltek's |
| 18:52.13 | Adys | or Clyde's |
| 18:52.15 | Kirkburn | Make the tc bit bigger Gryphen |
| 18:52.20 | Adys | tho Patrigan's is really nice |
| 18:52.20 | Kirkburn | Otherwise, nice |
| 18:52.31 | Adys | yeah in fact, patrigan's is my preferred :P |
| 18:52.39 | Kirkburn | Patrigan's is huge! |
| 18:52.52 | Adys | did you see Sandwichman's ? :P |
| 18:53.10 | Adys | or Fizzwisdget's |
| 18:53.11 | Kirkburn | I like Tekkub's |
| 18:53.25 | Adys | me too :P but these are just so similar |
| 18:53.27 | Kirkburn | Hey, TecnoBrat, rawr |
| 18:53.33 | Adys | haha |
| 18:54.13 | Adys | no really I love pat's |
| 18:54.20 | Kirkburn | Adys, make yours cool then |
| 18:54.25 | Adys | cba |
| 18:54.27 | Adys | do it for me honey |
| 18:54.39 | Kirkburn | No, sweetums |
| 18:54.50 | Adys | Sweetsum* |
| 18:54.53 | Adys | noob |
| 18:54.54 | Kirkburn | I'll just keep pestering you |
| 18:55.04 | Kirkburn | Sweetsum? |
| 18:55.19 | Kirkburn | vlad_, The job queue length is currently 6,822. It's going down ... slowly |
| 18:55.36 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-110-173.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Sweetsome, you idiot) |
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| 18:55.36 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 18:55.48 | Adys | <3 |
| 18:56.23 | Adys|DontKickMe | (you think this is gonna work?) |
| 18:56.25 | TecnoBrat | Kirkburn, hey? |
| 18:56.35 | Adys|DontKickMe | Tecno, your sig is such a copypaste! |
| 18:56.40 | TecnoBrat | I know :( |
| 18:56.40 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:56.43 | TecnoBrat | I need to edit it |
| 18:57.01 | TecnoBrat | I've been busy tweaking the Korgath US page tho :P |
| 18:57.18 | TecnoBrat | which still needs more work |
| 19:01.44 | Adys|DontKickMe | Kirkburn |
| 19:01.48 | Adys|DontKickMe | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Sig2 how about that? |
| 19:02.00 | Adys | Its original n stuff |
| 19:02.21 | Kirkburn | Cheeky# |
| 19:11.10 | Patrigan | so uhm, thanks for the nice reply on my work. |
| 19:11.12 | Patrigan | Had another question |
| 19:11.19 | Patrigan | As you could see |
| 19:11.31 | Patrigan | I developed a person's idea for a suggestion Portal |
| 19:11.37 | Patrigan | I was wondering how you guys think about it |
| 19:14.02 | Patrigan | (you can see it in the Village Pump, but I presume you already have >.>) |
| 19:15.33 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Terenas_Menethil_II#Why_didn.27t_the_guards_do_anything.3F |
| 19:22.27 | vlad_ | Kirkburn: yeah, slowly is fine |
| 19:23.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | thats not what she said!!! |
| 19:23.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | oohhh!!!! |
| 19:23.29 | Adys | Kirkburn |
| 19:23.36 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Sig2 here you go my sweety |
| 19:24.09 | Adys | woah, its ugly |
| 19:24.16 | Adys | meh |
| 19:27.27 | Kirkburn | Adys, lol |
| 19:27.37 | Adys | k, try again |
| 19:27.45 | Adys | hows it now? :P |
| 19:28.04 | Kirkburn | t? c? :( |
| 19:28.13 | Adys | no contribs |
| 19:28.15 | Adys | S = t |
| 19:28.36 | Teomyr | how obvious :D |
| 19:28.38 | Gryphen | o,O |
| 19:29.24 | Adys | Inspired by ClydeJr <3 |
| 19:30.16 | Kirkburn | So, like, I reverted something of Theron's again |
| 19:30.31 | Kirkburn | Can people look at the Danath page and give me their views (on the talk page) |
| 19:31.20 | Adys | Updated <3 |
| 19:32.09 | Kirkburn | sub sub kinda breaks the link |
| 19:32.31 | Kirkburn | Doesn't really bother me though, still better than what you had before |
| 19:32.38 | Kirkburn | Now, Danath Trollbane, go! |
| 19:35.22 | Adys | Sub doesnt break the link |
| 19:35.28 | Adys | its your ie7 or something :P |
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| 19:40.37 | Patrigan | Kirkburn or Adys or any other admin ^^ I would like a quick shared view on that suggestions portal |
| 19:40.44 | Adys | sec |
| 19:40.48 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 19:41.29 | Patrigan | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Discussions_of_game_ideas |
| 19:43.26 | Kirkburn | Adys, seems links don't respect sub sub, but the text does |
| 19:43.38 | Kirkburn | So the link area is above the bottom of the s |
| 19:43.51 | Adys | oO |
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| 19:45.05 | Kirkburn | Whereas FF doesn't respect sub sub at all |
| 19:45.11 | Kirkburn | It just does one sub |
| 19:45.15 | Adys | no |
| 19:45.21 | Adys | it does two, it makes it smaller sorta |
| 19:45.28 | Kirkburn | But not lower |
| 19:46.00 | Kirkburn | To fix, do sub, but span the text smaller |
| 19:46.11 | Adys | i tried :/ |
| 19:46.13 | Adys | makes it ugly |
| 19:46.18 | Kirkburn | My turn! |
| 19:46.29 | Adys | do it for me honey! |
| 19:49.39 | Kirkburn | Bah, I give up |
| 19:49.46 | Kirkburn | FF and IE treat sub too differently :/ |
| 19:50.07 | Kirkburn | You want it to look like the s is hanging off, but I can't get both to be consistent |
| 19:50.41 | Patrigan | what you trying? |
| 19:51.12 | Kirkburn | Fiddling with Adys' sig |
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| 19:51.28 | Adys | would a div work? |
| 19:51.38 | Kirkburn | Doubtful |
| 19:51.39 | DuTempete | whazzup! |
| 19:51.46 | DuTempete | I'm loving this irc at work shiz |
| 19:52.00 | DuTempete | I'm avoiding having to pay attention to a class right now =P |
| 19:52.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 19:52.20 | Kirkburn | Adys, I'm making a sort of mid-way one |
| 19:52.31 | DuTempete | so what are you guys up to? |
| 19:52.31 | Patrigan | but what are you trying to get with that S? :p |
| 19:52.34 | Patrigan | me |
| 19:52.48 | Kirkburn | Pretty much |
| 19:52.51 | Patrigan | I'm actually attempting to gather some extra support for a Suggestions Portal on the wiki |
| 19:53.19 | Patrigan | and I just finished my new sig about 30min ago |
| 19:53.30 | DuTempete | Hey, Patrigan :) |
| 19:53.48 | DuTempete | Why did you make a new sig? |
| 19:54.08 | Kirkburn | Patrigan, similar to Adys, your sig don't work as well in IE |
| 19:54.08 | DuTempete | You aren't listening to that harassment from Kiltek, are you? |
| 19:54.32 | Patrigan | nah |
| 19:54.34 | Patrigan | my old sig sucked |
| 19:54.37 | Patrigan | go check my new one |
| 19:54.46 | Patrigan | lemme check it on IE |
| 19:54.55 | Patrigan | (IE sucks though, so I couldn't bother with that) |
| 19:55.30 | Patrigan | and mIRC is officially fucked up since Vista for me xD |
| 19:55.53 | Patrigan | well |
| 19:55.53 | Patrigan | Vista is fucked up :) |
| 19:55.53 | Gryphen | not on my comp |
| 19:55.53 | Gryphen | pebkac |
| 19:56.01 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:56.19 | Kirkburn | Note how I browse the wiki on IE7 on Vista :P |
| 19:56.42 | Hobinheim | all the boxes must look ugly as hell |
| 19:56.49 | Hobinheim | sometimes i feel bad and want to redo them just so they look normal in ie |
| 19:56.54 | Adys | weird |
| 19:56.56 | Kirkburn | Boxes? |
| 19:56.59 | Gryphen | boxes? |
| 19:57.01 | Gryphen | seem fine to me |
| 19:57.02 | Hobinheim | questbox |
| 19:57.02 | Patrigan | boxes? |
| 19:57.05 | Adys | in User talk:Adys the s doesnt link |
| 19:57.07 | Teomyr | boxes? |
| 19:57.07 | Hobinheim | navbox |
| 19:57.09 | Hobinheim | tooltip |
| 19:57.12 | Kirkburn | Boxes are fine |
| 19:57.17 | Gryphen | they look fine |
| 19:57.18 | Hobinheim | in ie7 they don't look exactly the same as they do in firefox |
| 19:57.21 | Hobinheim | which is unfortunate |
| 19:57.25 | Kirkburn | Example page? |
| 19:57.26 | Adys | You bunch of forumtrolls =P |
| 19:57.48 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Vengeful_Harbinger |
| 19:58.25 | *** join/#wowwiki Lysistrata (n=yousuck@xdsl-84-44-189-66.netcologne.de) |
| 19:58.29 | Adys | delete all quest pages >< |
| 19:58.34 | Gryphen | looks the same to me accept for minor font diff |
| 19:59.09 | Hobinheim | not close enough |
| 19:59.18 | Hobinheim | the tables have pading |
| 19:59.34 | Gryphen | looks better in ie imho |
| 19:59.40 | Hobinheim | wowwiki has a problem |
| 19:59.42 | Kirkburn | The big gap around the title? |
| 19:59.50 | Kirkburn | It's only supposed to be a 1px gap |
| 20:00.17 | Kirkburn | (which is how all the others were designed) |
| 20:00.23 | Hobinheim | the gap around the title is supposed to be 5x |
| 20:00.25 | Patrigan | Hmm |
| 20:00.28 | Hobinheim | which is how i designed it |
| 20:00.32 | Patrigan | I have a great idea to solve all these problems |
| 20:00.41 | Lysistrata | LoL ... |
| 20:00.56 | Hobinheim | and my net is cutting out again.... |
| 20:00.59 | Patrigan | Put a line on the frontpage like: "Best viewed on Mozilla Firefox, using IE is stupid." |
| 20:01.04 | Kirkburn | No |
| 20:01.09 | Patrigan | :( |
| 20:01.16 | Teomyr | lol |
| 20:01.22 | Hobinheim | yeah that'd be great |
| 20:01.25 | Kirkburn | All this time, the tables weren't designed as I thought? |
| 20:01.37 | Teomyr | at least, "using IE6 is stupid" |
| 20:01.51 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:01.51 | Hobinheim | yup... |
| 20:02.00 | Lysistrata | Yeha IE5 is much better... |
| 20:02.04 | Gryphen | same here kirk, looks shity they way its supposed to look |
| 20:02.05 | Gryphen | hah |
| 20:02.07 | Adys | lol |
| 20:02.16 | Adys | i still got ie5 on my old mac |
| 20:02.22 | Hobinheim | anybody else getting error messages? |
| 20:02.31 | Adys | Well I still got OS 8.1 aswell so |
| 20:02.53 | Kirkburn | Hah, I'm sorry, but if you're going to design something, at least take into account the IE box model |
| 20:03.10 | Kirkburn | (a box model which is more sensible than the standard) |
| 20:03.10 | Adys | lets make it compatible ie4 too |
| 20:03.24 | Hobinheim | i intended on getting around to it sooner or later |
| 20:03.32 | Lysistrata | This is pointless all Browsers "out there" got advantages and disadvantages so it's pointless to tell someone IE is bad. There are Reasons why people use it so just let them be (No I doN't know why someone would use IE ... but there are still people using Netscape too, so what?) |
| 20:03.37 | Hobinheim | but you know as well as any web designer that the disparities between ie7 and the rest of the world are unfortunate |
| 20:03.50 | Adys | netscape omg |
| 20:03.52 | Hobinheim | stab a fork in your eye unfortunate |
| 20:03.55 | Adys | its been three years i didnt hear that word |
| 20:04.37 | Hobinheim | unfortunate? |
| 20:04.39 | Hobinheim | oh netscape |
| 20:05.08 | Kirkburn | So this is why when I design a website I have little to no problems getting them to look identical in FF and IE7? :/ |
| 20:05.18 | Lysistrata | Still there are people using it. There are even people who are using Mozilla Phoenix (Firefox < 0.5 I think) |
| 20:05.40 | Hobinheim | well if you design explicitly for both then of course you can make them look the same |
| 20:05.41 | Adys | they can screw away |
| 20:05.45 | Hobinheim | i was going for simplicity, at the time |
| 20:05.50 | Hobinheim | who knew the templates would get popular |
| 20:05.52 | DuTempete | Tables are troublesome, but if your code is clean, you shouldn't have a problem. |
| 20:05.53 | Adys | if you use navigators like that you dont expect stuff to look right |
| 20:06.08 | Adys | we dont have to support shit like that tbqfh |
| 20:06.18 | Adys | IE7, Safari and Firefox yes |
| 20:06.27 | Adys | rest can sod off with all my heart |
| 20:06.30 | Kirkburn | What occurs is that FF adds 5px padding around the table contents /inside the border/, IE doesn't |
| 20:06.40 | Hobinheim | among other minute things |
| 20:07.00 | Gryphen | ugh i hate ff |
| 20:07.05 | Kirkburn | Hardly a big issue anyway |
| 20:07.33 | Kirkburn | But you'll notice that none of my versions of it have that :P |
| 20:07.33 | Adys | kirk? |
| 20:07.41 | Adys | in ie7 i have no problems with the link |
| 20:07.49 | Kirkburn | See http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:BurningLegion |
| 20:07.59 | Kirkburn | navboxes are more obvious |
| 20:08.30 | Patrigan | tbh |
| 20:08.36 | Patrigan | I wouldn't bother with it |
| 20:08.37 | Adys | omg |
| 20:08.38 | Lysistrata | Adys I didn't said that you have to support it. Just wanted to point out why it is always a bad thing to but something like "FF Rulez the World fuck off especially if you're using IE" on a Page. I don't think you'd do it anway but ... btw. sometimes I'm forced to work in an enviroment where the "latest" browsers are IE5.5 and Mozilla Phoenix |
| 20:08.49 | Adys | Gryphen's sig looks a hell of a lot different in ie7 and ff aswell |
| 20:08.51 | Patrigan | I'd suggest a "best viewed under Firefox" line |
| 20:09.26 | Adys | and? |
| 20:09.26 | Hobinheim | you could put a "sod off ie users" in a firefox only page |
| 20:09.27 | DuTempete | It does, Kirk? Hrm, that sounds like something important. =P |
| 20:09.45 | DuTempete | You can negate that with padding:0, right? |
| 20:10.02 | Adys | its not because people dont have the possibility at work to use a better browser that we have to adapt it for that |
| 20:10.06 | Gryphen | omg your right adys |
| 20:10.08 | Adys | I dont get your point |
| 20:10.12 | Gryphen | haha i thought it looked bad in ie |
| 20:10.16 | Gryphen | how can you even like it in ff |
| 20:10.18 | Gryphen | lolz |
| 20:10.20 | Adys | lol |
| 20:10.45 | Patrigan | Gryphen get a new sig |
| 20:10.52 | Gryphen | no! |
| 20:10.55 | Patrigan | we're all getting new sigs |
| 20:10.58 | Patrigan | so you should too |
| 20:11.08 | DuTempete | I just made my sig... |
| 20:11.08 | Patrigan | or you should be eaten by a bunny! |
| 20:11.23 | DuTempete | I don't wanna make a new one, now. :( |
| 20:11.29 | Patrigan | Adys |
| 20:11.32 | Adys | mmm |
| 20:11.32 | Patrigan | did you try |
| 20:11.37 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, you have to specify the border width |
| 20:11.37 | Patrigan | <small></small>? |
| 20:11.39 | Lysistrata | [21:59:50] <Patrigan> Put a line on the frontpage like: "Best viewed on Mozilla Firefox, using IE is stupid." <-- It is in reference to this. Just wanted to point out why it's always bad to say that you using browser XY is stupid. |
| 20:11.49 | Kirkburn | Always always specifcy as much as possible |
| 20:11.55 | Adys | small only reduces font size |
| 20:11.55 | Patrigan | I was kidding on that on Lysistrata |
| 20:12.01 | Adys | sub moves the letter |
| 20:12.03 | Patrigan | yeah |
| 20:12.04 | Patrigan | I know |
| 20:12.11 | DuTempete | I think that's a joke, Lysistrata |
| 20:12.25 | Patrigan | I do think we should add a "Best viewed on" sentence |
| 20:12.31 | Patrigan | but just the best viewed part ;) |
| 20:12.44 | Adys | title="But still, IE sucks balls" |
| 20:12.47 | Gryphen | Best viewed on a computer |
| 20:12.57 | Gryphen | FF sux more balls |
| 20:12.59 | Adys | nah, ie7 is alright |
| 20:13.01 | DuTempete | hehehe |
| 20:13.21 | Patrigan | on some pages |
| 20:13.23 | Zicon | "Best viewed with a browser that passes the CSS2 Acid Test" :P |
| 20:13.23 | Patrigan | we could add: |
| 20:13.30 | Patrigan | "Best viewed not at all" |
| 20:13.42 | Hobinheim | fruitless conversation... |
| 20:14.01 | DuTempete | ./agree |
| 20:14.14 | Gryphen | css sux, acid test sux |
| 20:14.33 | Patrigan | Good |
| 20:14.37 | Hobinheim | who's ady s |
| 20:14.38 | Patrigan | let's jump on something that matters |
| 20:14.39 | DuTempete | Frankly, though, we should all just continue being good, professional programmers, who design for ALL our user. =P |
| 20:14.45 | Hobinheim | it's sorta just falling apart |
| 20:14.53 | Hobinheim | uh DuTempete, no |
| 20:14.53 | Hobinheim | =) |
| 20:15.11 | DuTempete | Sorry, remove the "professional" part =P |
| 20:15.27 | DuTempete | and replace continue with "start" |
| 20:15.37 | winkiller | hm.. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Addramalech&rcid=507417 |
| 20:15.52 | winkiller | what about /myuswername redirects to user.. a bit too prominent imo |
| 20:16.04 | DuTempete | *hugs* guys, class ovedr |
| 20:16.06 | DuTempete | *over |
| 20:16.23 | Hobinheim | is kiltek here? |
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| 20:16.55 | Adys | testing something |
| 20:17.20 | Adys | Kirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Viewcount ? |
| 20:17.24 | Adys | Something like that |
| 20:17.48 | Adys | merk, its being ugly |
| 20:18.39 | Kirkburn | Eep, too many lines |
| 20:19.09 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:19.11 | Adys | fix me that plx |
| 20:19.29 | Kirkburn | Zicon, lol, so just Opera then :P |
| 20:19.40 | Zicon | kirkburn: Works for me. ;) |
| 20:20.00 | winkiller | Kirkburn: ah, you moved that Addramalech - what's the policy on the /addra redirect? keep? |
| 20:20.22 | Kirkburn | I couldn't be bothered with making it a subpage, though it should be |
| 20:20.24 | winkiller | if I ever come across such a case again :P |
| 20:20.40 | Kirkburn | I normally leave it a short while so the person knows what happened to it |
| 20:20.40 | Hobinheim | ok i don't normally do this, but i think i'm going to delete a template that might be in use |
| 20:20.46 | Hobinheim | or at least the wiki reports that it's in use |
| 20:20.49 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Rare&limit=500&from=0 |
| 20:20.50 | Kirkburn | Which? |
| 20:20.54 | Hobinheim | i've already let the bot run its course |
| 20:21.00 | Hobinheim | but i think some of those pages are dangling inclusions |
| 20:21.10 | Hobinheim | if you null edit the page, the inclusion should disappear |
| 20:21.18 | Adys | sec. |
| 20:21.28 | Adys | let it be for now |
| 20:21.31 | Hobinheim | and internet cutting out again... |
| 20:21.34 | Adys | Ill fix that |
| 20:21.54 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 20:22.26 | Adys | hm |
| 20:22.40 | Adys | interesting... |
| 20:23.42 | Adys | A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: |
| 20:23.42 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.42 | Adys | from within function "". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)". |
| 20:23.42 | Hobinheim | it's the side effect of using wacky templates |
| 20:23.57 | Kirkburn | Who just edited something big? |
| 20:23.59 | Hobinheim | i guess the link indexes don't catch up |
| 20:24.04 | Gryphen | good thing you pasted that here Adys |
| 20:24.10 | Hobinheim | not me this time |
| 20:24.12 | Gryphen | that fixed it! |
| 20:24.16 | Adys | >.> |
| 20:24.21 | Gryphen | think it was me, battlegroup edit |
| 20:24.28 | Adys | No |
| 20:24.32 | Adys | I edited Rare |
| 20:24.39 | Adys | well it was probably both |
| 20:24.46 | Adys | Anyways, 5500 on job queue |
| 20:24.56 | Adys | lets wait for that to go lower and delete Rare after |
| 20:25.03 | Kirkburn | Yeah, was Gryphen :P |
| 20:25.15 | Hobinheim | aww boo |
| 20:25.22 | Hobinheim | user is correct |
| 20:25.38 | Hobinheim | link templates always need a disambiguation field |
| 20:25.40 | Hobinheim | rates... |
| 20:25.43 | Hobinheim | ***** rats |
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| 20:26.40 | Gryphen | oh jeez |
| 20:26.44 | Gryphen | you put that best viewed on there |
| 20:26.57 | Gryphen | welcome wiki to 1998 |
| 20:27.22 | Kirkburn | Is it true though, due to our copious usage of PNG |
| 20:27.28 | Kirkburn | *It is |
| 20:27.42 | Hobinheim | i want to shoot whoever destroyed the icon template |
| 20:27.47 | Hobinheim | oh right, i remember |
| 20:28.01 | Patrigan | well at least we have stack sizes now? :p |
| 20:28.39 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, this way, if anyone complains, we can say - look down :P |
| 20:28.40 | Gryphen | bews viewed with is the lamest thing |
| 20:28.44 | Gryphen | lol |
| 20:28.57 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I know |
| 20:29.06 | Bibi` | ahah |
| 20:29.11 | Bibi` | I mastered the power of the anchors ! |
| 20:29.21 | Bibi` | You can't stop me ! NOBODY CAN ! |
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| 20:31.12 | Gryphen | how do you do this? |
| 20:31.12 | Adys | ughhh |
| 20:31.13 | Gryphen | {{template|<span style="float:right">word}} |
| 20:31.19 | Gryphen | seems to break |
| 20:31.32 | Gryphen | is it the quotes? |
| 20:31.44 | Adys | Kirk |
| 20:31.56 | Adys | Add back the br/ after Jump to the top |
| 20:31.58 | Hobinheim | huh? |
| 20:32.00 | Adys | its UGLY in high res |
| 20:32.01 | Kirkburn | The "=" likely too |
| 20:32.06 | Hobinheim | what are you trying to do Gryphen |
| 20:32.15 | Hobinheim | oooo Kirkburn nailed it |
| 20:32.18 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Mal%27Ganis_US/Guild&action=history |
| 20:32.20 | Hobinheim | escape the equals or do content = |
| 20:32.25 | Gryphen | i want the second to last edit |
| 20:32.30 | Gryphen | but it breaks |
| 20:32.31 | Hobinheim | or whatever the template supports |
| 20:32.49 | Gryphen | oh |
| 20:32.50 | Gryphen | hmm |
| 20:32.57 | Kirkburn | Adys, I added that br in the first place :P |
| 20:34.15 | Kirkburn | Done, anyway |
| 20:34.15 | Adys | I didnt say I added it :P |
| 20:34.15 | Gryphen | how do you escape in wiki? \ ? |
| 20:34.15 | Kirkburn | You can never escape the wiki! Muahahahahahahahaha! |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | whatever the percent thing to equals is |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | just umm |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | make it a named field |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | instead of {{{2}}} |
| 20:34.15 | Gryphen | ugh |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | like {{{body}}} |
| 20:34.15 | Hobinheim | and then {{template|first|body=crazy body content with ======}} |
| 20:34.35 | Hobinheim | this is precisely the complaint in voting with people and complex signatures |
| 20:34.39 | Hobinheim | someone needs to update the example |
| 20:34.50 | Hobinheim | {{vote|hate|sig=~~~~}} |
| 20:36.50 | Hobinheim | k letting the bot do the null edits to get rid of the crazy inclusions, seems to be working |
| 20:41.05 | Hobinheim | see no one is talking i feel disconnected from irc again |
| 20:41.37 | Patrigan | you are disconnected |
| 20:41.40 | Patrigan | nah I'm quite busy |
| 20:42.19 | Patrigan | and I'm still hopinh to get some kind of reply from an admin with insight on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Discussions_of_game_ideas |
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| 20:45.40 | Hobinheim | why do you need an admin? |
| 20:45.46 | Hobinheim | they're all just a bunch of schmoes anyway... |
| 20:46.46 | Hobinheim | umm... i'm an admin |
| 20:46.51 | Hobinheim | so if i say "i like it" then what |
| 20:47.02 | Hobinheim | i like it, but as with all things, it needs editorial |
| 20:47.10 | Hobinheim | i don't know what it is with warcraft players that their grammar is usually bad |
| 20:47.45 | Patrigan | wha? |
| 20:47.49 | Patrigan | You say I have bad grammar? |
| 20:48.01 | Patrigan | I feel stomped in the balls :( |
| 20:50.05 | Patrigan | Nah, but I was hoping to get the discussion enrolling even further |
| 20:50.20 | Patrigan | Knowing the Wiki, I know nyou have to prssure some good ideas to be able to get them started |
| 20:50.25 | Patrigan | Alone I am nothing |
| 20:50.33 | Patrigan | it's when we are a team that we are great! |
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| 20:52.52 | ClydeJr | Patrigan, not sure if this has been mentioned, but I think your sig is making everything after it itallic. |
| 20:53.04 | Patrigan | rly? |
| 20:53.15 | Patrigan | strange cuz I don't make things Italic myself |
| 20:53.17 | Adys | Clyde, your sig is pretty :] |
| 20:53.27 | ClydeJr | Check the Village Pump after you post in the sig section |
| 20:54.05 | ClydeJr | thanks Adys |
| 20:54.13 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Sig inspiration ftw :) |
| 20:54.24 | Patrigan | looks fine for me ClydeJr |
| 20:54.41 | Hobinheim | i just meant... if you (not you you) copy the text from the wow forums as the source for suggestions, it's probably litered with poor gramar |
| 20:54.45 | Hobinheim | *grammar |
| 20:54.53 | Hobinheim | a suggestion portal should be well kept and organized |
| 20:55.00 | Hobinheim | people just like to throw out random ideas willy nilly |
| 20:55.06 | Adys | Kirkburn: beep |
| 20:55.12 | Kirkburn | bong |
| 20:55.15 | Hobinheim | and it's not a matter of getting it started.... |
| 20:55.16 | Adys | check WW:SIG, why does it do that>< |
| 20:55.24 | Hobinheim | it's a matter of starting it yourself and then selling everyone on the idea |
| 20:55.26 | Patrigan | ofc hobin |
| 20:55.38 | Patrigan | Well |
| 20:55.43 | Patrigan | I suck at creating a portal :) |
| 20:56.26 | Hobinheim | starting a seed page in your user space woudl be a great start |
| 20:56.31 | Hobinheim | and then a link to it from vp |
| 20:56.37 | Kirkburn | Adys, fixed |
| 20:56.47 | Adys | love you |
| 20:56.57 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 20:57.00 | ClydeJr | I checked the previous version before your edit, Pat, and everything is normal. But after your edit, everything below is itallic. Could be my browser though |
| 20:57.10 | Kirkburn | Btw, http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/19/no-video-games-found-in-vt-shooters-dorm/ |
| 20:58.01 | ClydeJr | Like the sig, Adys. Nice and simple. |
| 20:58.15 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 20:59.11 | Hobinheim | OOOOO BURN |
| 20:59.21 | Hobinheim | THAT GUY WHO SAYS THOSE DUMB THINGS ABOUT GAMES IS STUPID |
| 20:59.39 | Kirkburn | >.< |
| 21:00.03 | Hobinheim | DR PHIL AND LAWYER MC DOUCHEBAG OWE THE INTERNET AN APOLOGY |
| 21:00.07 | Hobinheim | NEVER FORGET |
| 21:00.21 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm I need to work on my sig |
| 21:00.34 | Patrigan | Hobinheim |
| 21:00.42 | Patrigan | your keyboard seems broken |
| 21:00.55 | Patrigan | seems like your caps button is stuck |
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| 21:01.55 | Hobinheim | I CAN'T CONTROL THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE |
| 21:02.26 | Patrigan | Aw :( |
| 21:02.29 | Patrigan | poor you |
| 21:02.35 | Patrigan | My retarded cousin can't either ;( |
| 21:02.41 | Patrigan | I always feel sorry for him too :( |
| 21:03.07 | Zicon | patrigan: Ok, you win. A tired ol' sock comment is nothing compared to retarded cousins. |
| 21:03.10 | Patrigan | (note I don't have a retarded cousin and if I did, I would not abuse him to troutslam Hobinheim with him) |
| 21:03.22 | Hobinheim | trout slam, eh? |
| 21:03.25 | Patrigan | ofc |
| 21:03.33 | Patrigan | it's more powerful than a slap |
| 21:03.36 | Zicon | Troutslam. That's an excellent word. *makes a note* |
| 21:03.40 | TecnoBrat | Dr Phil was different than that retard lawyer though |
| 21:03.43 | Patrigan | why am I sudenly scared... |
| 21:03.58 | TecnoBrat | He simply said that games are a trigger for psychopaths |
| 21:04.04 | TecnoBrat | Not that they create them |
| 21:04.05 | Hobinheim | no they aren't |
| 21:04.08 | Hobinheim | they're a release |
| 21:04.19 | Hobinheim | if i shoot virtual squirrels i'm no longer compelled to kill real ones |
| 21:04.24 | Hobinheim | they're just looking for a scape goat |
| 21:04.26 | Patrigan | Rly? |
| 21:04.29 | TecnoBrat | Are you a psychopath? |
| 21:04.31 | Hobinheim | and creating sensationalist tv |
| 21:04.33 | Patrigan | After each game of GTA |
| 21:04.38 | Hobinheim | see we're falling into their trap |
| 21:04.44 | Patrigan | I usually go out and attempt to drive over someone :( |
| 21:05.10 | Patrigan | or I also try to jump on riding cars and try to surf on their roofs |
| 21:05.27 | TecnoBrat | They were psychopaths before they played the game ... |
| 21:05.31 | Patrigan | SometimesI jump from a building and activate a lowgravity mod |
| 21:05.44 | Patrigan | because it's fun |
| 21:05.47 | dotted | after i play wow i usually go out and kill ppl for xp and epix |
| 21:06.20 | Patrigan | Yeah I do that too |
| 21:06.29 | Patrigan | and I hunt innocent Bunnies aswell! |
| 21:07.06 | dotted | but dr phil is right, if you are already a psychopath vilent movies or games might very well be the trigger for killing ppl |
| 21:07.25 | Patrigan | yeah |
| 21:07.33 | Patrigan | so might be a person scolding someone else |
| 21:07.35 | Patrigan | or hell |
| 21:07.44 | Patrigan | even if you fall |
| 21:07.52 | Patrigan | it could be the flooding drop of the bucket |
| 21:07.59 | Patrigan | just fall on the ground |
| 21:08.06 | Patrigan | tripped over a something on the ground |
| 21:08.09 | Patrigan | makes you so pissed |
| 21:08.12 | Patrigan | tat you grab a gun |
| 21:08.14 | Patrigan | and go kill |
| 21:08.33 | dotted | possibely |
| 21:08.59 | TecnoBrat | absolutely. |
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| 21:09.45 | Patrigan | All this bullshit about games or movies |
| 21:09.55 | Patrigan | If you really want to stretch it |
| 21:09.59 | Patrigan | we can blame the news aswell |
| 21:10.12 | Patrigan | because there's some psycho always yelling that we have to fight for the "war on terror" |
| 21:10.18 | Patrigan | and I feel that you guys are Terror! |
| 21:10.34 | Patrigan | so I have to do what that dude says |
| 21:12.17 | SLSSNAKE625 | Well, you know, it was actually Kellogg's fault. if they didn't make such good cereals, he wouldn'tve had the energy to do what he did. |
| 21:12.29 | Patrigan | true true |
| 21:12.59 | TecnoBrat | Did you read his manifesto? |
| 21:13.02 | Teomyr | did you realize that all killers have eaten bread at some point in their life? |
| 21:13.10 | Patrigan | OMG! |
| 21:13.13 | TecnoBrat | Interesting enough he mentioned Bush and Osama |
| 21:13.15 | Patrigan | It's Bread's fault! |
| 21:13.25 | Teomyr | pure coincidence? or ... |
| 21:13.49 | Teomyr | does BREAD make you aggressive? |
| 21:14.11 | SLSSNAKE625 | Conspiracy! |
| 21:14.13 | Teomyr | it's also toxic. many people who have eaten it have died |
| 21:14.38 | Patrigan | We need to start an "anti-breadeatinggroup" |
| 21:14.45 | Teomyr | yeah |
| 21:15.31 | Patrigan | yeah! |
| 21:15.38 | Patrigan | We need to shout it out loud |
| 21:16.10 | Hobinheim | shout it on the mountain tops |
| 21:16.45 | Patrigan | ... |
| 21:16.50 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Patrigan] by Adys |
| 21:16.56 | Adys | more dots |
| 21:16.58 | Patrigan | Teomyr, Hobinheim is acting all scary tonight :( |
| 21:17.05 | Patrigan | more scary than usual |
| 21:17.06 | Teomyr | he always does |
| 21:17.44 | Patrigan | yeah, but he scares me today :( |
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| 21:18.19 | Teomyr | maybe he's next... |
| 21:18.33 | Patrigan | :o |
| 21:18.45 | Patrigan | We should not stop him then! |
| 21:18.55 | Patrigan | because every dead person, is a person less that can eat bread |
| 21:19.05 | Patrigan | so our anti-breadeating campaign will have success! |
| 21:19.09 | Teomyr | yeah |
| 21:19.34 | Patrigan | But don't worry |
| 21:19.46 | Patrigan | as my WoWwiki title currently says, I will be World Dominator |
| 21:19.49 | Hobinheim | great i get the scariest admin award too :( |
| 21:19.52 | Patrigan | Already Copyrighted it on the WIki |
| 21:19.53 | Hobinheim | :cry: |
| 21:20.42 | Patrigan | GRATZ Hobinheim, you deserved it! |
| 21:22.57 | ClydeJr | Pat, looks like your sig is missing a final </span> |
| 21:23.35 | Patrigan | really? |
| 21:23.40 | Patrigan | I calculated them though :§ |
| 21:23.47 | Patrigan | bleh add it in if you like :) |
| 21:24.00 | ClydeJr | yeah, it was bugging me, so I counted them :) 16 <span>, 15 </span> |
| 21:24.29 | Patrigan | Hmmm |
| 21:24.38 | Patrigan | wonders where that extra one came from :o |
| 21:24.52 | Patrigan | as long as my sig remains unharmed |
| 21:25.01 | Patrigan | I'm happy that things are better now :) |
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| 21:26.56 | Patrigan | I'm mostly happy that I don't have 1 of those boxes that everyone seems to be abusing nowadays oO |
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| 21:29.16 | Patrigan | should tell dotted that his exit message is too long... |
| 21:30.40 | Hobinheim | leave a mess on his thingie |
| 21:34.02 | Patrigan | nah |
| 21:34.12 | Patrigan | want to see how long it takes :) |
| 21:34.17 | Patrigan | before it's fixed |
| 21:34.20 | Hobinheim | so. many. items. |
| 21:34.21 | Patrigan | personal amusement |
| 21:34.25 | Hobinheim | so. many. bad. templates.... |
| 21:34.29 | Patrigan | idd |
| 21:40.49 | Patrigan | Off to bed for me |
| 21:40.52 | Patrigan | Goodnight guys! |
| 21:42.47 | Hobinheim | jeez what time is it for you guys |
| 21:42.53 | Hobinheim | it's only like 17:43 |
| 21:43.05 | Hobinheim | lol do europeans write in military? |
| 21:43.33 | Kirkburn | Depends |
| 21:48.52 | Kirkburn | The 2.1 patch notes have been edited, but it's almost impossible to work out where :/ http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/94203802.htm |
| 21:48.59 | Hobinheim | DIFF |
| 21:49.01 | Hobinheim | DIFF! |
| 21:49.04 | Hobinheim | DO A DIFF! |
| 21:50.06 | Adys | lo sko |
| 21:50.09 | Adys | ARGH |
| 21:50.45 | Kirkburn | How can I? |
| 21:50.59 | Kirkburn | I don't have two identical copies to diff |
| 21:50.59 | TecnoBrat | 2:49pm! |
| 21:51.45 | TecnoBrat | Lemme try soemthing... |
| 21:53.47 | Kirkburn | Anyone recognised the guy on the far right? http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/cptcomet/Heroes%20Chronicles/wrapupparty/2007_04_17_Heroes_S1_Wrap_15.jpg |
| 21:53.56 | Kirkburn | *recognise |
| 21:54.42 | Hobinheim | HUGH LAURIE!!! |
| 21:54.44 | Hobinheim | love him |
| 21:54.48 | Hobinheim | except that he's going bald |
| 21:54.49 | Hobinheim | bless him |
| 21:54.56 | Kirkburn | Nice work :D |
| 21:55.08 | Hobinheim | you like house don't you? |
| 21:55.10 | Kirkburn | Another shot - http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/cptcomet/Heroes%20Chronicles/wrapupparty/2007_04_17_Heroes_S1_Wrap_14.jpg |
| 21:55.14 | Hobinheim | house + phish phood |
| 21:55.54 | Kirkburn | (the picture title should explain what it's from) |
| 21:55.54 | Hobinheim | who tf is that girl |
| 21:55.54 | Kirkburn | Yes, yes I do :) |
| 21:55.54 | Kirkburn | Dunno |
| 21:55.55 | Hobinheim | i don't understand what the event is |
| 21:55.55 | Kirkburn | Heroes_S1_Wrap |
| 21:56.10 | Kirkburn | Giant clue |
| 21:56.24 | Hobinheim | why would other celebrities perform at a wrap party for heroes season one when it hasn't even finished yet? |
| 21:56.35 | Gryphen | filming has |
| 21:56.42 | Kirkburn | Wot Gryphen said :) |
| 21:56.48 | Hobinheim | wot? |
| 21:56.52 | Hobinheim | what |
| 21:57.31 | Thrae | How existentialist of you, Hobinheim. |
| 21:57.53 | Kirkburn | "The pictures show many of the cast from Heroes, and also ‘Band From TV’ a band made up of Greg Grunberg who plays Matt in Heroes, Jamie Denton who is currently in Desperate Housewives, Hugh Laurie, who is huge in English television and has recently relocated to the USA for ‘House’, and Bob Guiney." |
| 21:58.11 | Kirkburn | (http://theheroeschronicles.soundzhosting.net/?p=348) |
| 21:58.19 | TecnoBrat | Kirkburn under paladin "* "Holy Concentration": This talent now affects "Binding Heal"." |
| 21:58.48 | Kirkburn | Add, add, I'm not looking at it any more :) |
| 21:58.57 | TecnoBrat | hehe kk |
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| 22:16.39 | Skyfire | hola hola |
| 22:17.47 | Skyfire | ugh |
| 22:17.56 | Skyfire | how do you produce a ... |
| 22:17.56 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:18.57 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 22:19.33 | Skyfire | nvm :) |
| 22:20.05 | Skyfire | ugh |
| 22:20.11 | Skyfire | the wiki r borken |
| 22:21.00 | Adys | no |
| 22:21.27 | Skyfire | pft |
| 22:21.41 | Skyfire | huh |
| 22:21.48 | Skyfire | look at the formatting on this page |
| 22:21.57 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Seedcloud_Buckler |
| 22:24.46 | ClydeJr | quit |
| 22:27.17 | Skyfire | gryphen, that looks scary |
| 22:27.19 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 22:27.25 | Gryphen | lol |
| 22:27.40 | Gryphen | finding new colors, too close to pat |
| 22:27.53 | Skyfire | well, make pat change -his- then! |
| 22:27.55 | Skyfire | :PPP |
| 22:27.58 | Gryphen | lol |
| 22:28.12 | Skyfire | threaten him with teh banninantion if he doesn't. |
| 22:28.14 | Skyfire | :P |
| 22:28.31 | Skyfire | bannination* |
| 22:29.38 | Skyfire | wow |
| 22:29.44 | Skyfire | you don't see this often |
| 22:29.49 | Skyfire | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6461 |
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| 22:30.17 | Skyfire | note the caps :O |
| 22:31.22 | Kirkburn | I needs CS3 Web Premium :P |
| 22:32.01 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I've reserved yellow through to orange, you can't take them from me! |
| 22:32.14 | Gryphen | yeah, it sucks! |
| 22:32.24 | Gryphen | cant find anything that isnt already like another |
| 22:32.24 | Gryphen | lol |
| 22:32.32 | Kirkburn | Skyfire, the caps? |
| 22:32.37 | Skyfire | on that item |
| 22:32.51 | Skyfire | most items with that kind of happenstance have the hyphenated word capitalized |
| 22:32.56 | Kirkburn | Slime-encrusted Pads |
| 22:32.57 | Skyfire | i think |
| 22:33.02 | Kirkburn | Oh, I seeee |
| 22:33.07 | Gryphen | lol |
| 22:35.13 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, blue is relatively unused |
| 22:35.16 | Kirkburn | Teal? |
| 22:37.11 | TecnoBrat | Sky, I think thats changed next patch .. or I might be confusing it |
| 22:38.26 | TecnoBrat | I think I'm wrong |
| 22:40.27 | Kirkburn | I'm off to bed now |
| 22:40.32 | Kirkburn | See ya'll later |
| 22:40.38 | TecnoBrat | later |
| 22:47.46 | Hobinheim | done with work |
| 22:47.46 | Hobinheim | later |
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| 22:48.34 | Gryphen | now Adys can hate on my sig |
| 22:48.44 | Adys | mm? |
| 22:49.08 | Gryphen | it is no longer ugly, you will not like it :) |
| 22:49.12 | Adys | haha, awesome |
| 23:00.32 | winkiller | nice |
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| 23:16.29 | Sky|afk | so... i guess my sig is the most boring now |
| 23:19.55 | Gryphen | adys, stop invading my space! |
| 23:20.00 | Adys | <3 |
| 23:20.20 | Adys | I dont on firefox! |
| 23:20.26 | Gryphen | your S is groping my P |
| 23:20.47 | Gryphen | it was fine previously |
| 23:20.52 | Gryphen | heh |
| 23:20.57 | Adys | your P is too big probably |
| 23:21.01 | Adys | My s is fine! |
| 23:21.16 | Gryphen | my P is normal font |
| 23:21.17 | Adys | l2p (see the pun? learn to P. awesome no ?) |
| 23:21.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 23:21.41 | Adys | (My S is fine, l2P, come on, thats purely awesome...) |
| 23:21.51 | Skyfire | this. is. sad |
| 23:22.07 | Skyfire | :D |
| 23:22.28 | Adys | WOAH |
| 23:22.30 | Adys | its that ugly |
| 23:22.38 | Adys | on IE |
| 23:23.15 | Gryphen | it was fine on kirks edit |
| 23:23.42 | Gryphen | looked the same in ff and ie with kirks |
| 23:24.17 | Skyfire | are u using ie6 or 7 adys? |
| 23:24.32 | Adys | ie6 explodes my comp when i try to install it |
| 23:24.39 | Skyfire | so that would be a 7 then |
| 23:24.47 | Adys | yeah but I want the S to look a bit more.. towards the left, gryphen |
| 23:25.16 | Gryphen | well it didnt get more left even in FF |
| 23:25.17 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 23:25.22 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 23:25.41 | TecnoBrat | Your S is definately groping |
| 23:27.06 | TecnoBrat | I seem to remember <sub> sucks in IE |
| 23:27.54 | TecnoBrat | You can try doing what I did .. <span style="font-size:75%; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -1px;"> |
| 23:37.10 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 23:37.14 | Skyfire | wonder if... |
| 23:37.27 | Skyfire | {{elinks-talent|<name>}}? |
| 23:38.45 | Skyfire | oh,fucking hell |
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| 23:48.02 | Skyfire | yum |
| 23:49.44 | Skyfire | i woulder how many double redirects i just made |
| 23:53.56 | Skyfire | just one... |
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| 23:55.35 | winkiller | hm |
| 23:55.40 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 23:55.48 | Skyfire | hrh |
| 23:55.51 | winkiller | we don't have a template for user's charlists, right? |
| 23:56.00 | Skyfire | uh... |
| 23:56.01 | Skyfire | yeah we do |
| 23:56.06 | winkiller | all seem to it manually and slightly different |
| 23:56.14 | winkiller | yeah? a hint how it's called? |
| 23:56.28 | Skyfire | uh... |
| 23:56.29 | Skyfire | uh.. |
| 23:56.31 | Skyfire | lol |
| 23:56.32 | kbrosnan | I am getting a database error on http://www.wowwiki.com/Karazhan |
| 23:56.53 | Gryphen | no error here |
| 23:56.54 | Skyfire | kara is fine for me |
| 23:57.02 | Skyfire | get rid of the ie? |
| 23:57.03 | Skyfire | lol |
| 23:57.10 | Gryphen | i have ie |
| 23:57.12 | Gryphen | ;) |
| 23:57.19 | Skyfire | uh |
| 23:57.21 | Gryphen | get rid of sky |
| 23:57.25 | Skyfire | get rid of ie6 then |
| 23:57.26 | Skyfire | >.> |
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| 23:58.15 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
| 23:58.17 | Skyfire | skooooooooooooooo |
| 23:58.30 | Adys | heya |
| 23:58.35 | Skosiris | hey |
| 23:58.48 | Adys | 01:57:53 Total time played: 282 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes, 51 seconds |
| 23:58.48 | Adys | 01:57:53 Time played this level: 25 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, 27 seconds |
| 23:59.25 | Adys | :/ |
| 23:59.33 | Skosiris | that's 3/4 of a year, not bad :P |
| 23:59.41 | winkiller | Gryphen: you used {{usertable}}, where's that template exactly? |
| 23:59.44 | Adys | considering its european servs.. |
| 23:59.48 | Adys | btw skosiris |
