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| 10:00.29 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: where do you see that event being registered or handled? |
| 10:01.29 | Mr_Rabies | i don't, personally, because i am a dunce when it comes to addon stuff, but apparently in 8.3 the ui grabs the mouse down and mouse up in weird ways, tied to chat or something |
| 10:01.40 | Mr_Rabies | had to unregister it to get a guild finder link into a macro |
| 10:01.48 | Chipzz | nevermind |
| 10:02.10 | Chipzz | wasn't looking at the latest code |
| 10:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | ahhh |
| 10:07.39 | foxlit | it's weird how people jump to fixing that with UnregisterEvent instead of reading the code and flagging the chatbox (or whatever else) as wanting sticky focus. |
| 10:08.06 | Chipzz | it looks like it's related to autocompletion or sth |
| 10:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | well i just needed it once and followed what the internet magician told me to do |
| 10:15.38 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 10:16.00 | Mr_Rabies | i now have a macro with my guild finder link in it so we're set, unless they expire or something lol |
| 10:18.05 | Chipzz | on the one hand I never understood why people feel the need to spam trade chat with guild recruitment shit when there's a UI for it, I mean, if people /want/ to find a guild, they'll use that, right? |
| 10:18.29 | Chipzz | OTOH at least you're using a link to guild finder I guess |
| 10:18.51 | Mr_Rabies | because advertisement that reaches out even reaches out to the lazy |
| 10:19.11 | Mr_Rabies | and we're willing to take lazy folks in the guild if they're nice, probably not too many as raiders though :v |
| 10:19.40 | Mr_Rabies | sorta like being upset that businesses put up advertisements when the yellow pages/internet/whatever exists |
| 10:19.42 | Chipzz | it bothers me because a large proportion of trade chat is that kind of, no offense, trash |
| 10:19.50 | Chipzz | it's very polluting |
| 10:20.03 | Chipzz | you shouldn't do it |
| 10:20.13 | Mr_Rabies | why would you need to spam trade chat with trades when there's a UI for it? |
| 10:20.22 | Chipzz | there's not? |
| 10:20.31 | Mr_Rabies | if people want to trade items, they'll use the auction house, right? |
| 10:20.36 | Chipzz | no |
| 10:20.39 | Chipzz | incorrect |
| 10:20.52 | Chipzz | you're grasping at straws |
| 10:20.52 | Mr_Rabies | this is the exact same thing |
| 10:20.57 | Chipzz | no it's not |
| 10:21.08 | Mr_Rabies | like no one actually uses trade chat for trading stuff in the current game |
| 10:21.11 | Mr_Rabies | classic maybe |
| 10:21.14 | Chipzz | trade chat is for people who want to get rid of an item short term |
| 10:21.29 | Chipzz | which is not the same as auction house |
| 10:21.46 | Mr_Rabies | trade chat is for pretty much anything, even by blizzard's definition |
| 10:22.15 | Chipzz | also there's no UI for finding people who want to trade, so no, you're grasping at straws trying to rationalize ill behaviour |
| 10:22.49 | Mr_Rabies | you're limited to like two messages a minute, and if it's really spammy ignore/report spam exists |
| 10:23.41 | Chipzz | trade chat is really high volume and people like you who think it's ok to use it for things which there's a UI for are in large part the cause of that |
| 10:24.06 | Mr_Rabies | it is okay to use it for things which there's a UI |
| 10:24.18 | Chipzz | eliminating guild recruitement from trade would make it a whole lot better |
| 10:24.58 | Mr_Rabies | in your opinion, but in mine it'd just further kill guilds, and also trade chat would be basically dead |
| 10:24.59 | Chipzz | no it's not; IMO the guild finder was created to cut back on exactly what you're doing |
| 10:25.11 | Chipzz | and you're still trying to rationalize it |
| 10:25.31 | Chipzz | trade chat would be dead? lol no |
| 10:25.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's already basically dead on my realm |
| 10:25.57 | Chipzz | maybe on your realm it is |
| 10:26.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's about 50% boost spam |
| 10:26.06 | Chipzz | definitely not on mine |
| 10:26.07 | Mr_Rabies | and about 40% guild recruitment |
| 10:26.18 | Mr_Rabies | 9% shitposts and 1% actual trade |
| 10:26.34 | Chipzz | there used to be a time when you could actually have a conversation on trade chat |
| 10:26.57 | Mr_Rabies | you definitely can on my realm but it's basically dead |
| 10:28.46 | Chipzz | trade chat on mine is far from dead; quite the opposite |
| 10:28.55 | Mr_Rabies | but blizzard have directly stated there's no reason for trade chat to be limited to exclusively trade discussion, and it's fine for any discussion that doesn't violate TOS, etc |
| 10:29.21 | Chipzz | it's practically impossible to keep up with unless you scroll up; in large part because of guild recruitement trash |
| 10:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like you should transfer to a smaller realm and save realms like mine |
| 10:30.05 | Mr_Rabies | i will say no one uses trade chat on my realm because a UI for it has existed since the launch of the game |
| 10:30.35 | Chipzz | again, auction house != trade |
| 10:30.48 | Mr_Rabies | once the AH fees basically became negligible for current-expansion items, trade chat just became shitpost and recruitment central |
| 10:31.01 | Chipzz | prices in trade chat are substantially lower than on th AH |
| 10:31.22 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't know, i haven't seen anything advertised in it for trade since like, cata |
| 10:31.40 | Mr_Rabies | and i'm in cities a lot, shitposting the best i can with the spam filter |
| 10:31.46 | Chipzz | actually I see items being advertised on a daily basis |
| 10:31.58 | Chipzz | hmmm not daily, I meant very frequent |
| 10:32.31 | Chipzz | especially with the corruption ranks there's an actual use-case for selling on trade |
| 10:32.50 | Chipzz | people advertise "BoE from raid with corruption effect rank 2/3" |
| 10:33.06 | Chipzz | which is not sth you can search for on AH |
| 10:33.23 | Chipzz | (the corruption rank, I mean) |
| 10:33.47 | Mr_Rabies | i've literally never seen a boe for sale since cata, everyone just uses the AH for everything they can and their guild when stuff is too expensive |
| 10:34.27 | Chipzz | maybe you realm is dead but on my realm it definitely gets done |
| 10:34.45 | Chipzz | pretty sure if I log in now I'll see someone posting current BoE within the minute |
| 10:35.29 | Mr_Rabies | i would be fine with a default global chat channel to appease the curmugeons that only want trade chat to be a dry channel with people macro spamming their professions twice a day instead but trade chat is the closest thing we got |
| 10:36.12 | Mr_Rabies | and blizzard said so long as it's not in violation of TOS, consider trade chat a general chat channel that goes to all cities |
| 10:36.18 | Chipzz | I don't want trade char to be dry; I just want guild recruitement out of it |
| 10:38.54 | Chipzz | for the record I actually used the guild recruitment UI just last week |
| 10:39.12 | Chipzz | (not for myself, but a friend of mine wanted the heirloom pants) |
| 10:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/200143-trade-chat-abuse/ is the closest thing i can find right now, but this is blizzard's take on it |
| 10:39.40 | Mr_Rabies | they're not interested in limiting trade chat |
| 10:39.48 | Mr_Rabies | if it's spammy, report spam and move on, it's that simple |
| 10:40.24 | Mr_Rabies | we generally advertise a few times a few nights a week around raid time, we're not spammy because that will ruin your reputation |
| 10:40.37 | Mr_Rabies | we also don't mass invite like many guilds or anything like that |
| 10:41.34 | Chipzz | the link you posted doesn't say guild recruitment isn't forbidden, if you want to be pedantic about it |
| 10:41.59 | Mr_Rabies | there was definitely a post saying directly that trade chat isn't just meant for trades, but i'm having a hell of a time finding it |
| 10:42.06 | Chipzz | also "just report spam" is a strawman |
| 10:42.26 | Chipzz | because it's not about 1 person doing it making trade unusable |
| 10:42.41 | Chipzz | it's about hundreds of guilds doing it |
| 10:42.44 | Mr_Rabies | it's a solution to a problem i've only heard a few people complain about (actually far more people seem to complain about discussion going on in there, not trade/recruitment) |
| 10:42.56 | Chipzz | solving that problem would involve reporting all of them |
| 10:43.05 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like you have a solution then |
| 10:43.15 | Chipzz | not a realistic one |
| 10:43.48 | Mr_Rabies | not at all, just report it for spam if it's not trade and eventually your chat will be cleaned up for that session, or longer if enough people agree |
| 10:44.12 | Mr_Rabies | or if you want a more permanent one just start ignoring folks or get any of a huge number of addons that block guild recruitment |
| 10:44.22 | Ennea | does/did WoW not have a looking for guild channel or whatever that shit was called? |
| 10:44.33 | Chipzz | Ennea: yeah that too |
| 10:44.42 | Mr_Rabies | blizzard isn't interested in solving this problem because they agree with me that it's not a problem |
| 10:44.47 | Chipzz | but people like Mr_Rabies seem to think they're beyond that :P |
| 10:44.58 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: no, again, a strawman |
| 10:45.03 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: djeezus |
| 10:45.10 | Ennea | well, i guess traditionally it made sense to use trade when that was one of the only options |
| 10:45.21 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: they're not interested in fixing it because fixing it would involve way too much manpower |
| 10:45.23 | Ennea | i agree it's annoying when people post their guild recruitment stuff in trade |
| 10:45.30 | Ennea | but i don't care enough about it either way |
| 10:45.35 | Mr_Rabies | it really doesn't matter why they're not, they're not going to fix it |
| 10:45.40 | Mr_Rabies | fix it yourself or quit bitching |
| 10:45.50 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: which is why I'm telling you to behave and not to |
| 10:45.59 | Mr_Rabies | i will not |
| 10:46.02 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: I am fixing it by bitching at you :D |
| 10:46.16 | Chipzz | fixing guild spam, one person at a time :) |
| 10:46.31 | Mr_Rabies | you're not fixing shit, now i just want to spam it slightly more but not enough to get banned |
| 10:46.46 | Chipzz | attitude problem :) |
| 10:54.11 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: also I find it ironic that: 12:40 < Mr_Rabies> we generally advertise a few times a few nights a week around raid time, we're not spammy because that will ruin your reputation |
| 10:54.25 | Chipzz | so you realize it's intrusive yet you still do it |
| 10:54.43 | Mr_Rabies | it's only intrusive if you are spammy |
| 10:54.46 | Mr_Rabies | the actual act is totally fine |
| 10:54.55 | Mr_Rabies | but if you sit there for hours spamming it once or twice a minute |
| 10:55.13 | Mr_Rabies | expect to get banned and get the reputation of the guild that spams trade chat |
| 10:55.32 | Mr_Rabies | or at least actioned on the penalty volcano |
| 10:55.43 | Mr_Rabies | mostly just squelched unless you're a repeat offender |
| 10:57.55 | Mr_Rabies | again, if there was a global chat channel and they had rules about trade chat only needing to be about trade i'd be fine with it but it'd just be dead on my realm |
| 10:58.15 | Mr_Rabies | it'd be like, gold spammers getting themselves banned at most |
| 10:58.47 | Mr_Rabies | or boost spammers or whatever |
| 10:59.26 | Chipzz | on a different note, what would be the appropriate way to find groups for visions? |
| 10:59.47 | Chipzz | group finder works for M+ but that's 5 man |
| 11:00.06 | Mr_Rabies | using your guild or custom group finder |
| 11:00.48 | Mr_Rabies | but the latter is probably a terrible idea since most people are genuine idiots in a pug environment |
| 11:01.33 | Chipzz | guild is basically dead and atm I'm not interested in raiding so not looking for one |
| 11:01.36 | Mr_Rabies | if i can't do it solo or with my guild i don't really even bother at this point |
| 11:02.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'll pug if i like, missed a boss that i really want loot from or something once in a blue moon |
| 11:02.30 | Mr_Rabies | but my general opinion of pugs involves language i can't use in here |
| 11:07.31 | Chipzz | hmmyeah |
| 11:07.46 | Chipzz | not really sure what my options are |
| 11:07.50 | Mr_Rabies | but visions are honestly a lot easier solo than a small group |
| 11:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | a full group with tank and healer might be easier maybe but i haven't tried it yet |
| 11:08.08 | Chipzz | I tried solo once but failed badly :p |
| 11:09.10 | Mr_Rabies | my guild is mostly adults that can barely get their schedules to line up 2-3 times a week for raid time so lots of us end up doing it solo |
| 11:09.33 | Mr_Rabies | if you're a healer or tank i imagine grouping would be easier but like |
| 11:09.42 | Chipzz | maybe I should look up a guide or sth |
| 11:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | i went in with my lock buddy and we got smoked on a 3 mask run, but i can do a 4 mask no problem solo |
| 11:10.22 | Mr_Rabies | 5 mask is still evading me because of lack of AOE for rexxar |
| 11:10.52 | AcidWeb | if you go solo as healer life of mobs is severely reduced |
| 11:10.56 | Mr_Rabies | wouldn't surprise me if i get that done on my DH before my main druid despite my druid being like 470ish and my DH is like 450 |
| 11:11.05 | Chipzz | I tried once but from what I recall the mobs just started ganging up on me and my sanity bar went down pretty quickly |
| 11:11.15 | Mr_Rabies | what level is your cloak and stuff? |
| 11:11.21 | Chipzz | level 1 :p |
| 11:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | oh geez, just take it really carefully to thrall or alleria until you get rank 5 |
| 11:12.04 | Mr_Rabies | don't worry about anything else except targets that are between you and the final boss of course |
| 11:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | do your titanic research |
| 11:12.48 | Chipzz | balance druid and in open world content I can just face-tank mobs |
| 11:13.19 | Chipzz | in visions that makes your bar drop down pretty quickly |
| 11:13.36 | Mr_Rabies | you mostly can in the visions too until you start getting wild with the difficulty additions |
| 11:14.17 | Mr_Rabies | experience from repetition will make identifying the mobs with the greatest danger to your sanity or life a lot easier, as well |
| 11:15.58 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah it really does sound like you need a guild or very patient pug maybe (if those exist) |
| 11:23.53 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: http://chipzz.safehex.be/WoWScrnShot_033020_131959.jpg ppl selling items on trade (took a bit longer than a couple of minutes but then again it's noon here now, hardly peak hour) |
| 11:24.26 | Mr_Rabies | oh geez your chat window is so small no wonder it looks extra spammy lol |
| 11:24.56 | Chipzz | also 1.8mil wtf :p |
| 11:25.29 | Ennea | oh my god |
| 11:25.32 | Ennea | what happened to your brightness? |
| 11:25.40 | Mr_Rabies | gamma=yes |
| 11:25.50 | Chipzz | gamma cranked all the way up |
| 11:25.54 | Chipzz | I'm used to it |
| 11:25.54 | Ennea | but why? |
| 11:25.57 | Ennea | ._. |
| 11:26.03 | Ennea | do you not like pretty games? |
| 11:26.06 | Chipzz | because laptop outside and sun glare |
| 11:26.21 | Ennea | ouch |
| 11:26.57 | Chipzz | setting gamma to max is basically the only way to see anything at all that way |
| 11:27.27 | Chipzz | this is from my desktop but it doesn't bother me really |
| 11:28.10 | Chipzz | also http://chipzz.safehex.be/WoWScrnShot_032920_231354.jpg LOL |
| 11:28.14 | Mr_Rabies | perhaps i was a bit upset earlier (i think deferring to "logical fallacies" in an informal discussion is super dumb) i think ultimately not every realm is the same and i would just try to solve your problem either with the ingame tools such as reporting or with addons like badboy and its guild recruitment spam module or something else |
| 11:29.00 | Chipzz | mine THAT :D |
| 11:29.22 | Mr_Rabies | you're really the only person i've seen complain about trade spam that wasn't just complaining about the off-topic chat |
| 11:29.43 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could find the blizzard post saying that trade chat isn't only for trade but i can't, and it's now 7am and i still haven't slept |
| 11:30.09 | Chipzz | the occasional conversation I used to see on my old realm was mostly trolling anyway :p |
| 11:30.25 | Chipzz | but at least that has some kind of entertainment value :p |
| 11:30.41 | Mr_Rabies | if they did limit it to just trade i would agree but i think the game strongly benefits from having a global or semi-global chat channel nowadays with the population spread so thin across zones |
| 11:30.50 | Ennea | man, blizz still using the same old ui textures.. |
| 11:31.00 | Ennea | and that weirdly stretched level circle so it can fit three digits |
| 11:31.02 | Ennea | :< |
| 11:31.04 | Ennea | sad |
| 11:31.41 | Mr_Rabies | believe it or not they did actually redo several ui textures in higher resolution |
| 11:31.48 | Mr_Rabies | but you can barely tell unless you do a side by side comparison |
| 11:31.51 | Chipzz | *shrug* |
| 11:33.01 | Chipzz | I honestly don't mind the default UI too much |
| 11:33.08 | Ennea | should've done the ui frames maybe |
| 11:33.11 | Ennea | err |
| 11:33.13 | Ennea | unit frames |
| 11:33.14 | Ennea | brainfart.. |
| 11:33.26 | Mr_Rabies | i still use the default unit frames and raid frames, mostly cause i can't find a replacement i like more than those |
| 11:33.42 | Ennea | i also like the default |
| 11:33.49 | Mr_Rabies | almost everything else is some custom solution for me, but i can revert back to stock when stuff breaks |
| 11:33.50 | Ennea | but is it so fucking hard to do a higher resolution version of those? |
| 11:33.54 | Ennea | i guess it is, apparently |
| 11:34.20 | Mr_Rabies | bruh this patch had server-crashing bugs on the regular they're flying by the seat of their pants at this point lol |
| 11:34.36 | Mr_Rabies | er "this expansion" |
| 11:35.01 | Mr_Rabies | you can't have 20 people meet up in the open world without causing the server blade to start wheezing |
| 11:35.33 | Chipzz | you should probably complain when CrossHash or one of the Blizzard people is actually in here :) |
| 11:35.41 | Mr_Rabies | i know that has nothing to do with textures but |
| 11:35.49 | Mr_Rabies | it shows the quality of their current talent on the whole |
| 11:36.08 | Chipzz | I'm not sure if that's true |
| 11:36.22 | Chipzz | I think it's more indicative of the size of the team |
| 11:36.36 | Chipzz | rather than talent |
| 11:36.48 | Mr_Rabies | you could probably mine that node with the uhhh blacksmithing item that lets you mine while mounted |
| 11:36.57 | Mr_Rabies | i forget if you have to land to do that, but you could probably land on the node |
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| 11:37.36 | Chipzz | well that screenshot was from yesterday so the node probably isn't around anymore :) |
| 11:38.08 | Chipzz | some druid with mining will probably have grabbed it in the meanwhile :) |
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| 12:13.11 | Chipzz | am I the only one who's concerned/ slightly annoyed at prices in WoW these days? |
| 12:13.17 | Chipzz | 1.8mil for a BoE |
| 12:13.40 | Chipzz | 250K for a M+ run (and thats advertised as "cheap") |
| 12:14.02 | Ennea | classic player here; not concerned _at all_ |
| 12:14.29 | Chipzz | unless you do the same things (sell either of these) there's no way you can realistically get that amount of gold with regular gameplay |
| 12:14.58 | Chipzz | only way to get that amount of gold is either selling tokens or buying gold |
| 12:15.06 | Ennea | i made about 200g selling small eggs for the christmas event |
| 12:15.10 | Ennea | that definitely took me back in time |
| 12:15.28 | Chipzz | you'll have to sell a lot of eggs to get a M+ run :p |
| 12:15.39 | Ennea | no M+ runs in classic anyway |
| 12:15.48 | Ennea | 200g for eggs, though.. |
| 12:15.48 | Chipzz | true |
| 12:15.53 | AcidWeb | Well corrupted BoE just became P2W component. |
| 12:16.03 | Ennea | let's just say i was both proud and disgusted at the same time |
| 12:16.10 | Ennea | but mostly proud i reacted quickly enough to pull it off |
| 12:16.25 | Chipzz | but I'm not really talking classic here |
| 12:16.32 | Ennea | yea, yea |
| 12:16.34 | Ennea | i know ;p |
| 12:16.44 | Ennea | economy's busted. who'd have thought |
| 12:16.53 | Ennea | i don't play retail, but from what i'm reading and hearing i'm not too surprised |
| 12:17.09 | Chipzz | token going for ~200K you'ld have to sell 9 tokens, which is what, ~ EUR/$100 or more? |
| 12:17.40 | Chipzz | am I right to be appaled by that? o;O |
| 12:17.47 | Ennea | yes |
| 12:17.57 | Ennea | then again, reminds me a little of ragnarok online |
| 12:17.58 | Ennea | good timew |
| 12:17.59 | Ennea | *times |
| 12:19.58 | Chipzz | I'm also wondering if anyone actually pays 1.8mil for such items... |
| 12:22.17 | AcidWeb | yes definitely |
| 12:22.28 | AcidWeb | even more if item is very good |
| 12:24.34 | Chipzz | this kinda shit disgusts me and in a way makes me regret coming back to the game |
| 12:24.50 | Chipzz | it's really sad WoW has come to this |
| 12:26.15 | Chipzz | I guess the only good thing about this is that 1.8mil is so close to the gold cap that it can't get /much/ worse :S |
| 12:27.34 | Chipzz | it also makes me think Blizzard should have made BoE incapable of corrupting |
| 12:28.46 | AcidWeb | 18% is close? ð |
| 12:29.20 | Chipzz | talking order of magnitude :) |
| 12:30.56 | Chipzz | but I guess the right place to whine about this is mmoc or blizzard forums where noone gives a **** and I can get called a filthy casual :) |
| 12:31.30 | AcidWeb | Just yet another broken thing in BFA. |
| 12:32.43 | Chipzz | I used to agree that P2W was a non-issue in WoW given the limited amount of BoEs |
| 12:32.58 | Chipzz | yet another belief of mine out of the window :p |
| 12:35.46 | Chipzz | I wonder whether Blizzard simply didn't consider this when designing corruption and BoEs or if they did and came to the conclusion it was a great way of selling more tokens |
| 12:37.51 | AcidWeb | On the one hand I like they try to replace TF with something else but on the other hand replacement that add even more rng and is more important than player skill is... bad. |
| 12:42.16 | Chipzz | this kinda stuff is making me real cynical about the state of the game |
| 12:42.32 | Chipzz | maybe it's time to quit once and for all :S |
| 12:48.15 | Chipzz | I can't wait to see what the next expansion will bring</sarcasm> |
| 12:48.34 | Chipzz | and yes that is an unbalanced sarcasm tag :) |
| 12:49.39 | AcidWeb | I'm deluding myself it will be better. |
| 12:50.17 | Ennea | my hopes for classic+ are pretty much gone at this point |
| 12:50.40 | Ennea | with the burning crusade survey only having options that make it seem obvious that BC will be a thing, i guess we won't be getting classic+ |
| 12:50.41 | Chipzz | prices people are asking have never gone down, so I think the word "deluding" is appropriate |
| 12:51.13 | Chipzz | Ennea: IMO that's a good thing |
| 12:51.35 | Chipzz | Ennea: split lore would be bad |
| 12:52.01 | Chipzz | AFK to shop |
| 12:52.18 | Ennea | doesn't even need to be split lore |
| 12:52.22 | Ennea | split gameplay design would be enough |
| 13:07.17 | Chipzz | today is one of these days where in hindsight I regret getting up |
| 13:07.32 | Chipzz | sighs |
| 13:07.41 | AcidWeb | eat a bat |
| 13:07.46 | AcidWeb | what can go wrong? |
| 13:08.12 | Chipzz | the shop in my neighbourhood has now resorted to putting up plastic in front of the counter |
| 13:09.09 | Ennea | ... and? |
| 13:09.25 | Gnarfoz | like all shops, then, just a bit late |
| 13:09.48 | Chipzz | it just feels like this corona thing is getting more and more out of hand |
| 13:10.00 | Ennea | oh, it is |
| 13:10.02 | Ennea | don't worry |
| 13:10.09 | Chipzz | and this is only, what, week 3 of the social isolation thing |
| 13:10.20 | Chipzz | and we're in it for the long run |
| 13:10.22 | AcidWeb | it is just starting |
| 13:10.29 | AcidWeb | that will be a wild ride |
| 13:10.32 | Chipzz | this is not getting any better any time soon |
| 13:10.33 | Chipzz | yeah |
| 13:10.36 | Chipzz | exactly |
| 13:10.50 | Chipzz | also, I'm single and living on my own |
| 13:11.01 | Gnarfoz | look at it this way, if you're int he US, you have plenty of other places to look at to get a "preview", since the US is only now noticing how serious this is going to be |
| 13:11.05 | Chipzz | I need a haircut badly, and noone to give me one* |
| 13:11.25 | AcidWeb | You think that is bad? i need a dentist. |
| 13:11.27 | Gnarfoz | what do you "need" a haircut for :D |
| 13:11.34 | Chipzz | I haven't checked on the laundry places but I don't have a washer or dryer |
| 13:11.54 | Gnarfoz | that's more annoying than long hair, hehe |
| 13:12.11 | Chipzz | Gnarfoz: the US is retarded Trump land :S |
| 13:12.27 | Chipzz | bloody idiot (Trump) |
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| 13:12.44 | Ennea | AcidWeb, and you can't get to one right now? |
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| 13:12.51 | Gnarfoz | I assume he will be re-elected, regardless ^^ |
| 13:12.59 | Chipzz | Ennea: only for urgent things |
| 13:13.02 | AcidWeb | It is.. hard. |
| 13:13.06 | Ennea | dentist is urgent, typically |
| 13:13.12 | Ennea | AcidWeb, where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 13:13.17 | AcidWeb | Poland. |
| 13:13.22 | Ennea | hm |
| 13:13.30 | Chipzz | depends what for; I need a crwon on one of my tooth, not getting that any time soon |
| 13:13.36 | Ennea | did you dentists just shut down or what? :/ |
| 13:13.39 | Chipzz | *crown |
| 13:13.43 | Ennea | *your |
| 13:13.45 | AcidWeb | Most of them - yes. |
| 13:13.57 | AcidWeb | Rest need special hardware and ond take one patient a day. |
| 13:14.07 | AcidWeb | *olny |
| 13:14.13 | Chipzz | Ennea: dentist are at more than average risk of infection given that they come in direct contact with bodily fluids |
| 13:14.16 | AcidWeb | only -.- |
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| 13:14.49 | Ennea | well, damn |
| 13:15.25 | AcidWeb | I just paid handsomely my regular dentists. |
| 13:15.36 | AcidWeb | To open only for me. |
| 13:15.51 | Chipzz | and given that protective gear is more urgently needed by hospitals... dentists are low on the priority list |
| 13:16.35 | AcidWeb | and prices of it increased ~1000% |
| 13:16.37 | Chipzz | the whole world is quite literally going to shit :S |
| 13:17.12 | Chipzz | with the exception of White Rusland, it appears |
| 13:17.21 | Chipzz | *Russia |
| 13:17.36 | Chipzz | them fools still be playing sports |
| 13:17.55 | Chipzz | I guess they didn't get the memo (yet) |
| 13:18.11 | Chipzz | maybe we should all emigrate there :p |
| 13:20.34 | Ennea | why, you wanna get infected? :p |
| 13:21.11 | Chipzz | if I can take my laptop to the hospital, sure, why not? :p |
| 13:21.17 | AcidWeb | Main problem is a fact that currently it looks like everybody will get infected - sooner or later. |
| 13:21.23 | Chipzz | as long as they have internet and I can still play WoW ;) |
| 13:21.33 | AcidWeb | Just most people will not require any real medical help. |
| 13:22.01 | Chipzz | AcidWeb: if that's the case maybe immunity/ resistance will evolve |
| 13:22.11 | Ennea | everybody getting infected is not an issue, as long as the infection rate can be slowed down enough |
| 13:22.12 | AcidWeb | All quarantines etc. are just measure to spread a spike over the time. |
| 13:22.25 | AcidWeb | So health system will not collapse. |
| 13:22.47 | Chipzz | feels ripped off; this is one hell of a shitty apocalypse, I had expected more zombies and shotguns :p |
| 13:23.53 | AcidWeb | Generally countries with third world grade medcal care systems (like usa) are truly fucked. |
| 13:24.24 | Chipzz | AcidWeb: that's a bit insensitive considering Africa |
| 13:24.42 | Chipzz | where it's truely 3rd world medal care |
| 13:24.50 | Chipzz | the USA will survive |
| 13:24.56 | Chipzz | in the end |
| 13:25.17 | Chipzz | s/medal/medical/ |
| 13:25.23 | AcidWeb | I would say that on some level they are comparable. |
| 13:25.40 | AcidWeb | usa medical care system is just a crime against humanity with additional steps |
| 13:25.54 | AcidWeb | But that is just my EU-centric personal opinion. |
| 13:25.59 | Chipzz | yeah because fuck socialism ;) |
| 13:26.53 | Chipzz | quite sad how a lot of people in the USA conflate socialism and communism |
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| 14:32.02 | Gnarfoz | or universal healthcare with socialism |
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| 18:56.42 | pompy | twitch ded? |
| 18:57.42 | Ennea | seems that way |
| 18:57.48 | Ennea | at least i can't get video |
| 18:58.25 | Ennea | works again.. |
| 18:59.21 | pompy | indeed, now loading |
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| 20:31.37 | nevcairiel | anyone know an addon that lets you pre-plan your group setup based on the sign-ups in a calendar raid invite? or perhaps with a preset people pool without that calendar hookup? i distinctly remember something existed like that but i c ant find it |
| 20:33.33 | Mr_Rabies | there's this but not exactly what you're asking for, also not sure how up to date it is https://www.wowhead.com/raid-composition |
| 20:34.15 | Mr_Rabies | a version of this that used actual character names and stuff would be really nice though |
| 20:34.43 | nevcairiel | preferably ingame too |
| 20:34.49 | nevcairiel | and yeah with names |
| 20:35.20 | Mr_Rabies | and also with calendar integration, yeah our raid leader would love that lol |
| 20:35.42 | nevcairiel | that would just be the icing on the cake, would be happy with just adding all our raid members manually |
| 20:37.45 | Mr_Rabies | we're in that awkward phase where we're just starting mythic and people start getting butthurt because they're not getting invites to every raid |
| 20:38.29 | nevcairiel | yeah we want it for starting mythic as well |
| 20:38.32 | Mr_Rabies | every single time we hit mythic we end up going from like 25ish raiders to <20 and basically stop raiding :/ |
| 20:40.54 | Mr_Rabies | sit a healer because the fight requires more dps and our healers refuse to try to learn an offspec, we lose at least 1-2 healers every single time we do that |
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