| 00:00.41 | foxlit | who are you calling an offset? :P |
| 00:09.04 | TheDanW | those old style enums are deprecated, probably won't spend time to make them better |
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| 00:09.30 | foxlit | the new-style enums are at the bottom of that file; those are similarly interesting. |
| 00:09.42 | TheDanW | those should be getting documentated |
| 00:10.06 | TheDanW | i'm seeing them in the generated docs |
| 00:10.53 | TheDanW | some systems won't get docs generated, glue and addon forbidden systems like shop for example |
| 00:11.46 | foxlit | That's unfortunate, because it creates noise when checking whether FrameXML code is sane |
| 00:13.09 | TheDanW | sane is a strong word for FrameXML anyway |
| 00:13.11 | foxlit | (is it still referencing a removed global, or did the documentation simply omit it because it's not useful to addons?) |
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| 13:58.34 | nimhfree | wowâ¦over 12 hours without commentsâ¦most people must have better things to do :-) |
| 14:00.06 | Thunder_Child | Eh, the channel has slowed down in the last 10 years. |
| 14:00.29 | Thunder_Child | Traffic does shoot up around breaky patch times. |
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| 14:55.39 | foxlit | discord channels are a more popular avenue for newbie questions, and between the addon-disabled alpha and the 3-month old live build, there really isn't much exciting code being written. |
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| 15:30.13 | Funkeh` | I wonder who the smart guy was that thought they should paste a "full page" advert over the entire bnet client for pre-ordering BfA... for people who have already done that. |
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| 15:38.29 | Justwait | I think the add was more to announce the release date Funkeh` and less about you buying it again |
| 15:38.43 | Justwait | since the release date is important information for those buying/having bought it already |
| 15:38.59 | Funkeh` | it a giant buy now button |
| 15:39.07 | Funkeh` | the release date announcement can be a standard box |
| 15:40.44 | Funkeh` | infact it already is |
| 15:40.49 | Funkeh` | it's a double width video box |
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| 16:01.29 | nevcairiel | such clients should really learn to be context sensitive and hide buy buttons for people that have it already |
| 16:01.37 | nevcairiel | but they never were and likely never will be |
| 16:01.47 | nevcairiel | making people that already bought happy is not a priority :p |
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| 16:33.24 | foxlit | annoying the people who haven't bought it is. |
| 16:34.47 | Thunder_Child | I'm fairly sure the amount of unhappy people is vastly outweighed by the people that buy because of it. |
| 16:35.36 | foxlit | why? |
| 16:35.59 | foxlit | I mean, what makes you think anyone goes "Hey, it releases in August? BETTER HAND OVER THE CASH NOW!" |
| 16:36.07 | foxlit | "THEY MIGHT SELL OUT. OF DIGITAL KEYS!" |
| 16:36.31 | nevcairiel | people work on mysterious ways |
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| 16:38.46 | Thunder_Child | Spontaneous shopping is spontaneous. |
| 16:39.41 | foxlit | Insultingly poor marketing to a captive audience is insulting. |
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| 16:42.09 | foxlit | and yeah, sure, a modal popup will result in some short-term increase in the number of people clicking the "buy" button. |
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| 16:42.36 | nevcairiel | its not like its that obnoxious |
| 16:42.46 | nevcairiel | the double-wide ad is pretty common on that screen anyway |
| 16:43.19 | nevcairiel | there was some other video on there before in the same format, some art piece |
| 16:43.23 | foxlit | it blocks the play button, which is presumably the primary reason to open the app. |
| 16:43.35 | Funkeh` | ^ my main frustration |
| 16:43.37 | nevcairiel | i must have not gotten that |
| 16:44.05 | nevcairiel | all i see is the double-wide video ad |
| 16:48.30 | Funkeh` | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaHDQqjX0AAlQnt.jpg |
| 16:49.50 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 16:50.03 | nevcairiel | maybe it shows up when i restart the client next |
| 16:59.57 | Gnarfoz | ð¤¦ââï¸ |
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| 19:09.42 | VIad | TheDanW: mousing over performance can make the game hickup if there is an addon using large tables/dbs - would it be feasible to have a TOC entry or something to try counter that? like have it show but not make the game go nuts trying to calculate the memory used by the addon :p |
| 19:10.29 | nevcairiel | maybe stop using so much memory :p |
| 19:13.21 | TheDanW | yeah, would speed things up to mark all addons as ignore memory usage ;) |
| 19:14.32 | schlumpf | is that info provided by lua or do you actually crawl tables to sum up stuff? |
| 19:15.21 | nevcairiel | i would wager its tied into the taint system to identify which object comes from which addon |
| 19:15.25 | TheDanW | Lua doesn't store creation context, we are crawling through the active gc nodes and attributing usage |
| 19:15.35 | schlumpf | EWW |
| 19:15.48 | Funkeh` | you forgot "like a boss" |
| 19:32.09 | Tercioo | a 1 minute cooldown on UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage could be helpful |
| 19:32.22 | Tercioo | return a cached value if in cooldownj |
| 19:33.32 | foxlit | surely in the UI element using it rather than the API function |
| 19:34.57 | schlumpf | maybe just not mouse over that thing that often |
| 19:35.03 | schlumpf | I don't think what year I last did |
| 19:35.13 | Funkeh` | it has a throttle for the fps |
| 19:35.15 | nevcairiel | my UI doesnt even show it |
| 19:35.17 | schlumpf | *re,member |
| 19:35.18 | Funkeh` | would be weird not for memory |
| 19:35.38 | nevcairiel | i have a broker plugin for the fps etc, but i forget if it shows addon memory usage |
| 19:35.42 | nevcairiel | its largely irrelevant anyway |
| 19:35.54 | foxlit | it's not so much a throttle as an average over a window, Funkeh`? |
| 19:36.17 | Funkeh` | might be that |
| 19:45.15 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUNq2_VjRn4 |
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| 19:56.19 | Tercioo | lots of ppl uses addon memory on screen, sad |
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| 20:05.35 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 20:05.50 | Seerah | hihi |
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| 21:22.11 | tz | mem usage on screen is for pros |
| 21:22.23 | tz | always makes me warm and fuzzy inside seeing 600MB usage |
| 22:58.15 | zenzelezz | "Funfrock! I'm gonna take you out - and I don't mean for a pizza!" |
| 22:58.17 | zenzelezz | name that game |
| 23:04.23 | zenzelezz | the spelling and exact phrasing is probably off, but anyone who's played it should still recognize it |
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| 23:59.07 | zenzelezz | ok, so it's 02:00, and I go to Dalaran and shout "Ei sa peittää"... and get several responses from different languages, all saying the same thing |
| 23:59.23 | zenzelezz | I guess they're all >30 and have spent time in the bathroom looking at old heaters |
