IRC log for #wowuidev on 20170613

00:02.16plawpersonal opinions aside, I think this is a rather good burn of Notch: https://twitter.com/partyboy165/status/874108663962755072
00:05.12Mr_Rabiesperhaps the same could be said of ms. van valkenburg
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00:19.21*** topic/#wowuidev is 7.2.x ToC: 70200 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || This channel is logged, via purl
00:22.48TorhalI think Neffi killed Semlar.
00:23.05Neffishhh
00:23.12Neffinobody's supposed to know
00:24.03Thunder_ChildBut why would we care?  We would just build another one.
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00:28.37Torhal:O
00:30.05plawagain?
00:30.25Thunder_ChildWe get bulk parts now.  We learned our lesson.
00:30.51plawwell that's progress!
00:31.04IrielAnyone here use Backblaze, and if so, do you have good or bad experiences with them?
00:31.34GnarfozI do, and it's been fine so far
00:32.21plawbacks Iriel up to a blaze
00:32.32Thunder_ChildI did but I couldn't get the location customization I wanted.
00:33.23plawi didn't bother as it'd take a few hoops to jump through to support all platforms
00:33.53Thunder_ChildGranted I stopped using it in Jul of 2011.
00:34.58plawyeah was a few years ago haven't been back to check it out
00:36.18Thunder_ChildIt looks like one of the big issues was I could not deselect the C: drive.
00:41.34IrielThx, I'm using them to back up a synology NAS, they seem to have their shit together but first-hand experience is always a plus
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02:45.32nebulaplaw: an angry person becoming rich doesn't not make them stop being angry :p
02:45.52nebulaerm s/doesn't/does/
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03:51.12p3limnevcairiel: Is there anything in HBD to prevent overlapping?
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05:17.44Fiskerhugs Cairenn free of charge
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05:26.14Cairennhugs Fisker
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07:53.00nevcairielp3lim: overlapping? like what?
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08:06.06p3limwant to aboid overlapping of two icons on the same coordinate (or about the same)
08:06.58nevcairielno it does nothing like that, it just shows icons you give it
08:07.07p3limyeah I figured
08:09.56p3limalso had some issues with scaling + positioning, I don't suppose you have any tips to deal with that?
08:11.18nevcairielyou cant setscale the icon itself because that changes how setpoint works
08:11.59nevcairieli usually just change its size instead, which for simple icons has the same effect
08:14.24p3limfor compatibility with other addons parented to the icon it won't help tho :/
08:16.51nevcairielicons are usually pretty simple frames without complex relationships :d
08:19.53nevcairieli could probably make it compensate for scale changes on the icon itself, but it just wasnt necessary yet
08:38.28VIadI just saw a scart to hdmi adapter... I don't know how to feel.
08:42.06Kalrotharoused?
08:48.32VIadit's like playing 4k over hdmi into a 30" CRT or something :p
08:56.11Gnarfozjust in reverse
08:56.52VIadI actually was unsure if the scart was male or female
08:56.57VIaddidnt notice the pins
08:57.08VIadwas just walking by, now I wanna go back and check
08:57.14Gnarfozshould always be male unless it's an extension?
08:57.19Gnarfozjust like HDMI
08:57.34VIadthe hdmi was male, I saw that side
08:57.45VIadso I am uncertain what monstrosity this is
08:57.53Gnarfozfind out... for science!
09:03.32VIadit wasn't plugged in anywhere, nor can I imagine that we have anything in the meeting room that would need that kind of adapter :p
09:03.50VIadmaybe it fell under the sofa in the corner years ago when hdmi was brand new
09:05.08nevcairieli would think you would need an active converter for hdmi <-> scart in any direction, its not like scart carries a hdmi/dvi compatible signal
09:12.10VIadyeah it was bulky
09:14.04Kalroththat's what she said
09:22.42VIad( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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12:15.48karl_w_wVIad where did I put my windows 10 iso?
12:17.06karl_w_wok i found it
12:19.26VIadthink you can download the iso for free
12:19.39VIadmicrosoft finally turned some years ago, stated to make the iso available publicly :P
12:22.09karl_w_wyeah
12:22.58karl_w_wi just downloaded when creators came out and didnt want to download it again on potato internet
12:27.56VIadI wonder if I can use my microsoft e-mail to store my OS license onto it...
12:28.10VIadlike if I format or get a new drive so I can install fresh
12:39.50karl_w_w"Status changed from new to closed" "Resolution set to fixed"
12:39.52karl_w_wsloppy sloppy
12:43.35VIadits fixed, the ticket was closed :d
12:43.55karl_w_wthe problem is it went straight from new to closed
12:44.51VIadmaybe its to keep the open ticket counter low by randomly closing newly made tickets :3
12:45.02VIadand just flagging it as fixed asap
12:45.16VIadgotta keep that 99.5% problems resolved statistic
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13:12.33Industriallol bored people in congress like to add comma's to wikipedia pages
13:12.37Industrialhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=785311258&oldid=783633453
13:12.51Industrialthey are actually bored there ...
13:14.27nebulaand that looks wrong as w ell
13:18.22karl_w_wffdshow has hrtf built-in
13:18.27karl_w_wwhy didn't I know this before
13:24.06VIadwhat I love to hear an hour before I am going off work, is that a huge excel file needs major overhaul before tomorrow morning, the joy
13:25.54Industrialprogram the edits \:D/
13:26.01Industrialhell, do it in CSV ;P
13:26.14Industrialhugs vim
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13:59.56nebula7.2.5 is today, right?
14:00.12nevcairielfor muricans
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14:12.15nebulapfft, like eu matters
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14:20.39Stanzillayour mom matters
14:22.23Thunder_ChildThat's nice of you to say Stanzilla.
14:22.38Gnarfozit's true, innit
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14:35.27VIadIndustrial: it's for a customer, just poorly giving me the headsup for important things way too close to deadlines :p
14:35.39VIadsadly has to be excel, I hate excel
14:36.35Thunder_ChildIt could be worse VIad, our Excel sheets tap into Oracle.
14:36.40VIadI did the most important changes and told him because the deadline is impossible to be met, I'll have to do the rest tomorrow and it will be ready for thursday :p
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14:45.38PhixionThunder_Child: sounds like hyperion
14:45.42Phixiona 90s tech
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14:54.21karl_w_wwhy is this forum nearly all in korean? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/20266953/
14:55.21nevcairielmurica was invaded, y o
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15:01.29Thunder_ChildPhixion: Close.  That appears to be a plugin for Oracle whereas this is a plugin for Excel.
15:11.00ls-pckarl_w_w: Cceanic realms, I guess, quite many Asians play there :p
15:11.19karl_w_wbut the stickies are korean as well
15:11.20ls-pcmoreover, quite many Koreans live in USA
15:11.39ls-pcthey gave up :D
15:11.45karl_w_wlol
15:12.35ls-pcwell, there's one sticky in Chinese, so...
15:14.17ls-pcit says, something something welcome, something something twit us, something something please behave :p
15:14.25ls-pcthanks!
15:14.27ls-pcyeah
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16:21.47mukunda_what's a good way to implement cancelling input focus when the world frame is clicked?
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18:16.49Neffimukunda_: I believe ClearCursor() is protected, but there may be a macro form of it
18:18.06foxlitprotip: nothing in the default ui cancels input focus when the world frame is clicked.
18:18.28foxlitso "don't."
18:41.45Gnarfozyeah, don't implement things because Blizzard doesn't do it that way! never!
18:42.49nevcairielcalling clearcursor on worldframe might be hilarious
18:43.00nevcairieltry to cast something on the ground in 3d, nope
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18:43.00nevcairiel:D
18:43.29Gnarfoztargeting reticle? that'll be three fiddy
18:43.48foxlit... and now we've confused three separate api functions.
18:44.22Gnarfoztotally
19:00.51nebulais there a way to remove spell effects from a model? ie for PlayerModel:SetUnit("player")
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19:35.59NeffiHeh. I misunderstood
19:36.28Neffimukunda_: you can probably post-hook the onclick/onmousedown via :HookScript, or post-hook the global handler via hooksecurefunc
19:36.50NeffiBut as foxlit mentioned above, it's poor form to violate the model of the rest of the UI
19:37.05NeffiThe principle of least surprise kind of mandates that your UI behaves the same as the rest of the UI
19:39.03NeffiActually I see no script defined in the framexml so it might be handled entirely in C and inaccessible for hooking
19:44.17Gnarfozhmmm Legion app update
19:44.22GnarfozI wonder if that's compatible with 7.2.0 ;)
19:45.27schlumpfjust a few dbc inconsitencies, protocols don't really change between minors these days
19:46.09Gnarfoz(hint: last time, it wasn't)
19:46.40schlumpfI'm going to sacrifice my ability to do garrison tonight for you, second
19:46.48GnarfozI already did it myself
19:46.51Gnarfozjust have to log out to check
19:47.10schlumpfbeing logged into the game, so 2016
19:47.51schlumpfworks fine
19:48.09Gnarfozamazing, considering how shoddy the app is ;]
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19:49.56Alramstill better than rmah
19:50.11schlumpfnot hard though
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20:01.33Gnarfozwoah
20:01.40GnarfozI think the app learned to math
20:02.43Gnarfozseems to finally do mission time reduction properly
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20:44.32znfdoes anyone happen to have the alert URLs for other blizzard games?
20:45.14znfI know http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert for US and http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert for EU for WoW, but the b.net app seems to show up statuses for everything
20:45.53znfif not, I'll just proxy-mitm-them, but I was hoping to not have to do that
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22:52.11Mr_Rabieshmm
22:52.34Mr_Rabieslooks like C_Garrison.GetTalentTrees was deprecated and i have an addon yelling at me about it :(
22:56.43Mr_Rabiesjust commented that line of code out and everything seems to be working
23:07.50Funkeh`that's how coding works
23:08.16foxlitshould've just prefixed everything with On Error Resume Next.
23:18.59Mr_Rabiesi think that function just checks in on order hall research and idgaf about that
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23:33.02tzuhhhh, should xmog stuff have gone missing this patch?
23:33.20Gnarfozmeaning what?
23:33.23nevcairielyes, all of it. the entire concept is being abandoned
23:33.45Gnarfozfinally
23:33.49Gnarfozfashion police must stop
23:34.39tzfor some reason mythic stuff has been downgraded to heroic :(
23:35.40Funkeh`probably a dispaly bug
23:35.44Funkeh`display
23:38.43tzhmmmmmm
23:38.51tzliterally unplayable
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23:46.50Semlardid they really change the toc version
23:47.56nevcairielno
23:48.04Semlarare you sure
23:48.18Semlar<PROTECTED>
23:48.27nevcairielwell the latest ptr had nothing of that sort
23:48.40Semlari can't log in because my battle net app is apparently broken
23:48.52Semlarand it won't let me kill battle.net.exe
23:50.28Thunder_ChildThat sounds like a personal problem.
23:51.00Semlaryeah agent.exe and battle.net.exe are just stuck open
23:51.48Semlarand i don't care enough to restart my computer to fox this
23:51.50Semlarfix
23:52.08Semlarso someone else can figure out if they changed the toc
23:52.39nevcairielit seems extremely doubtful they would do this on live but not have a single sign of that on the ptr
23:52.44nevcairielso i'm calling BS
23:52.52foxlitthat can wait until after the afternoon nap, Semlar.
23:53.33Semlari mean, there's a comment on my addon saying changing the toc version fixed their inability to load the addon
23:53.48Semlarbut i guess it could have been something else
23:54.59Semlarit looks like having my debugger open stopped the launcher from launching the app
23:55.03Semlarwhich is.. interesting
23:55.16nevcairielwhy are you debugging the launching launcher
23:55.21Semlari wasn't
23:55.21foxlitClearly worthwhile use of uidev time: make ##Interface: tags randomly-generated per major patch, allow addons to declare compatibility for multiple tags at once, and utterly refuse to run anything that declares an invalid tag.
23:55.25Semlari was debugging another program
23:55.38tzGetBuildInfo() still reports 70200
23:56.41Semlaris 7.2.5 actually live?
23:56.51nevcairielyea
23:56.59Semlarwas it released earlier today
23:57.06nevcairielyes
23:57.31Semlaryeah my addon isn't marked as out of date
23:58.17Semlarnever have users
23:58.42Semlarthey're going to drive me insane
23:59.03tzthis is why you work in enterprise software, if something breaks they pay you again to fix it
23:59.56Semlarmy addon shouldn't have stopped working after the patch and their fix shouldn't have fixed anything

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