| 00:39.29 | LexSfX | when will http://wow.gamepedia.com/CVar_ffxDeath start working again? i haven't liked this greyscale death thing since TBC, and even disabled it back then |
| 00:46.15 | Mr_Rabies | jsut imagine that you become a dog when you die; it's that easy |
| 00:46.57 | Mr_Rabies | (i agree with you, that effect is terrible) |
| 00:52.01 | znf | jesus |
| 00:52.14 | znf | I wanted to use atom.io as en edit |
| 00:52.18 | znf | as an editor |
| 00:52.28 | znf | I wanted to install monokai as a theme |
| 00:52.31 | znf | there's a billion versions |
| 00:53.37 | MiR4i | LexSfX: ffxDeath is built into ffxGlow |
| 00:54.06 | MiR4i | if you disable ffxGlow, you disable all of the old ffx effects |
| 00:54.12 | LexSfX | MiR4i: not true, as i have ffxGlow disabled and still have greyscale death |
| 00:54.30 | MiR4i | well, they were merged a few expansions ago |
| 00:54.37 | MiR4i | I asked the devs on Twitter |
| 00:54.39 | MiR4i | shrugs |
| 00:54.42 | LexSfX | well, there's a glitch right now then |
| 00:54.59 | LexSfX | because i ran /run print(GetCVar("ffxGlow")) just now |
| 00:55.02 | LexSfX | and result was "0" |
| 00:55.12 | LexSfX | and i still have greyscale death |
| 00:55.49 | MiR4i | I see |
| 00:59.34 | znf | greyscale death, best death |
| 01:03.30 | znf | and that's my brief experience with atom |
| 01:05.28 | nebula | so because there were too many choices for the theme colors you wanted, you said fuck it and uninstalled? |
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| 01:19.30 | znf | nebula, nah, felt too slow |
| 01:19.37 | znf | everything seemed laggish on this i3 |
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| 01:20.16 | nebula | it is pretty slow overall, i still use npp++ for most things |
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| 01:25.46 | Ammako | sublime text pride |
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| 01:33.05 | znf | I still think that $70 for a damn text editor is insane |
| 01:33.43 | znf | ofc, you can use it forever for free... but damn, $70 if you want to be a nice guy? |
| 01:34.37 | nebula | eh, most "integrated" editors cost quite a bit |
| 01:35.27 | nebula | ie, i think most of the jetbrains stuff (intellij) is 200+ |
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| 01:36.16 | znf | (someone remind me to stop downloading stop downloading 10 bit anime) |
| 01:36.28 | nebula | but the files are sooooo small! |
| 01:36.42 | nebula | fuck that they don't work with shit all outside of a pc |
| 01:37.05 | nebula | 10 bit and now people are using 265 more |
| 01:37.06 | nebula | hates it |
| 01:38.15 | znf | my laptop is going bonkers software decoding 10bit... |
| 01:38.50 | nebula | heh, i actually bought a crystalhd card for my older laptop so it could handle that shit |
| 01:39.06 | znf | I have one of those, too |
| 01:39.09 | znf | but old old one |
| 01:39.12 | znf | for h264 |
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| 01:39.16 | znf | back in ~2009? |
| 01:39.19 | znf | or 2008 |
| 01:39.20 | znf | never used it |
| 01:39.29 | nebula | i doubt they've changed much since |
| 01:39.38 | nebula | i got one around the same time, BCM70015 |
| 01:39.50 | Mr_Rabies | znf: deadfish is your friend |
| 01:39.54 | znf | whofish? |
| 01:40.05 | nebula | rip group |
| 01:40.06 | znf | what's that? |
| 01:40.11 | znf | oh, meh |
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| 01:40.13 | znf | don't care? :P |
| 01:40.20 | Mr_Rabies | deadfish encodes, often times the best version, but 8 bit |
| 01:40.30 | Mr_Rabies | i.e. the best subs, blu ray, etc |
| 01:40.32 | znf | I just pick up what I find on the sources I have |
| 01:40.38 | znf | I'm new to this anime stuff |
| 01:42.04 | znf | nebula, BroadCom BCM970012 Mini PCI-e HD Decoder Chipset 4 UMPC (320436937576) |
| 01:42.12 | znf | Updates for your purchase from dreambestbuy - Dec-30-09 |
| 01:42.15 | znf | 2009 actually |
| 01:42.29 | znf | never ever used it :D |
| 01:43.10 | znf | this was marketed as for "apple tv" |
| 01:43.20 | znf | or low power Atom |
| 01:43.22 | znf | the first gen |
| 01:43.32 | nebula | let me use my laptop as my xbmc htpc |
| 01:43.36 | znf | my last file server is actually one of those atoms, the first one with dual-core (hyper threading) |
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| 02:11.23 | znf | nebula, I bought this http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_397964.html with a Amlogic S905X |
| 02:11.26 | znf | supposedly it does 10bit |
| 02:12.24 | znf | I need to go to the customs office to pick it up, seems it arrived in the country already |
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| 02:36.12 | Mr_Rabies | gimme a trip report on that, znf |
| 02:36.31 | znf | I will, but I'm lazy to go to the customs office :-/ |
| 02:36.46 | Mr_Rabies | also what are the chances that it's going to turn your home network into a botnet |
| 02:37.07 | znf | my router is already chinese |
| 02:37.14 | znf | I bought one of those Xiaomi routers to test |
| 02:37.25 | Mr_Rabies | oh, well you're already part of it then |
| 02:37.54 | znf | my point exactly |
| 02:37.57 | Mr_Rabies | really wanna know how it does audio more than anything, really |
| 02:38.19 | Mr_Rabies | if it can do DD/DTS pass through |
| 02:38.39 | znf | I can't help you there |
| 02:38.45 | znf | I've got no dts/dd receiver |
| 02:39.34 | Mr_Rabies | shameful |
| 02:39.40 | znf | and until I move, I won't have one :) |
| 02:40.00 | Mr_Rabies | i found one video that is 10-bit but the issue isn't that with a firetv, really |
| 02:40.08 | Mr_Rabies | it's the insane subtitle styling they used for the opening |
| 02:40.25 | znf | doesn't kodi handle it? |
| 02:40.49 | Mr_Rabies | it does, but this had so many animations |
| 02:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | kodi was like |
| 02:40.52 | Mr_Rabies | nope.jpg |
| 02:42.00 | znf | ah, crap |
| 02:42.03 | znf | Evangelion is 4:3 |
| 02:43.18 | Mr_Rabies | it has lots of movement in the OP too, but the subs are what really killed the firetv's CPU |
| 02:43.30 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11nufs_watamote-op_tech this opening |
| 02:43.37 | Mr_Rabies | (subtitles not present here) |
| 02:44.52 | znf | don't tell me they made that whole animation |
| 02:44.53 | znf | in subs |
| 02:46.46 | Mr_Rabies | nah, they made the text flip around and fade in and out with transparency etc |
| 02:46.51 | Mr_Rabies | it was a nightmare combined with all that video |
| 02:46.58 | znf | hmmm |
| 02:47.00 | znf | almost 6am |
| 02:47.06 | znf | I should actually try going to sleep |
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| 02:49.05 | Ammako | sleep is for the weak |
| 03:22.16 | Thunder_Child | Blizz really should have prompted for the new streaming feature as opposed to enabling it and making me go disable it. |
| 03:24.39 | Ammako | perhaps. not a huge deal in my opinion. though it would have been nice if they had a popup at first startup asking if you wanted it enabled or disabled |
| 03:31.33 | Elmoe | I'm trying to think of the best way to determine if a hunter is survival spec but without using GetInspectSpecialization() |
| 03:32.20 | Elmoe | anyone have ideas? its really easy to do for other specs now because they use different primary stats or power types |
| 03:32.23 | Elmoe | but stumped for hunters |
| 03:33.59 | kd3 | GetPrimarySpecialization()? |
| 03:34.14 | Stanzilla | IsSpellKnown() |
| 03:34.36 | Elmoe | need to do this on not the player |
| 03:34.39 | Ammako | if you ever feel useless, remember that there exists protective sleeves for Nokia phones |
| 03:35.11 | Elmoe | kd3: did you just mean GetSpecialization()? I can't find GetPrimarySpecialization() |
| 03:36.11 | Stanzilla | check for class and not bow equipped? |
| 03:36.15 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Global_functions |
| 03:36.31 | kd3 | GetPrimarySpecialization() only works for the running player, and not any other unit |
| 03:36.35 | kd3 | so it's not going to help for you |
| 03:36.58 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: how would I check for not bow equipped and can I do that outside of interact distance? |
| 03:37.13 | Elmoe | I need a solution that doesn't require inspect |
| 03:37.21 | Elmoe | because of the range requirement for that |
| 03:37.22 | fewyn | hi |
| 03:37.25 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 03:37.46 | Elmoe | I use GetInspectSpecialization() whereever possible |
| 03:39.04 | Elmoe | is there a way to check with UnitPowerMax()? |
| 03:39.14 | Elmoe | like do the max focus values differ by spec? |
| 03:41.38 | Stanzilla | they do |
| 03:42.20 | Stanzilla | 100 is SV, 120 is BM, 150 is MM |
| 03:42.27 | Elmoe | and that is always the case? |
| 03:42.29 | Stanzilla | not sure if there are talents that change that, though |
| 03:42.39 | Elmoe | hmm ok I will try to check that |
| 03:42.42 | Elmoe | this might be the best way |
| 03:43.39 | Stanzilla | what are you doing |
| 03:43.56 | Elmoe | updating the logic that determines roles in a raid |
| 03:44.01 | Elmoe | used to be hunter was always ranged dps |
| 03:44.06 | Elmoe | now I need to flag survival as melee dps |
| 03:44.33 | Elmoe | for something like shaman it is easy because you just see if they have more agi than int and if so they are enhance, and then check if power type is maelstrom for ele vs. resto |
| 03:44.50 | Elmoe | hard for hunter because they all use the same stats and power type |
| 03:46.58 | Stanzilla | why do you need to do that without inspecting? |
| 03:48.27 | Elmoe | it does do it by inspecting |
| 03:48.32 | Elmoe | but that takes time in a 40 man raid |
| 03:48.36 | Ammako | mm only has 150 if they picked Patient sniper |
| 03:49.02 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: basically it will slowly try to inspect everyone but this logic is used to determine role in the meantime |
| 03:49.21 | Stanzilla | Ammako is right, 120 without that talent then |
| 03:49.24 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: inspect requires interact distance |
| 03:49.32 | Elmoe | well that fine I only care if it is 100 for surv |
| 03:49.43 | Elmoe | just need to make sure surv doesn't have talents/abilities to increase it |
| 03:50.47 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: in a big raid group its possible that it would take a long time for every raid member to get into interact range and then do the inspect, plus if someone switches specs I don't want them miscategorized until such a time when they get back into interact distance and can be inspected again |
| 03:51.59 | Stanzilla | https://www.wowace.com/addons/libgroupinspect/ |
| 03:53.00 | LexSfX | caching is handy ;) |
| 03:56.18 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: looks like that just does what I already have though |
| 03:56.34 | Elmoe | Stanzilla: although its certainly cool how it shares between players |
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| 11:12.01 | VIad | Guill: can we get C_ToyBox.IsToyUsable in RestrictedEnvironment.lua? |
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| 11:47.57 | Semlar | why do you need that |
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| 12:36.13 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://gfycat.com/PlasticSlightKingbird |
| 12:36.34 | VIad | Semlar: so opie can hide toys you can't use in the situation :d |
| 12:36.39 | VIad | karl_w_w: sweet |
| 12:37.02 | VIad | shadowfiend ulti timing is cool with underlord |
| 12:37.03 | Semlar | this is something it needs to do in combat? |
| 12:49.35 | Semlar | do any classes have utility any more or did they only take that away from hunters |
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| 12:55.50 | karl_w_w | I thought they removed utility in lich king |
| 12:58.26 | Semlar | i'm just wondering if they finished removing any reason to bring a particular class to a fight |
| 12:59.10 | Shockah | shaman/mage/hunter? |
| 12:59.12 | Semlar | since my class appears to now bring nothing whatsoever other than damage |
| 12:59.12 | Shockah | (heroism) |
| 12:59.32 | Semlar | right, i could bloodlust if i had a pet |
| 13:00.07 | Shockah | i'm usually the hero person in my guild :S as hunter |
| 13:00.25 | Semlar | that's interesting |
| 13:00.41 | Shockah | sucks since i'd like to take other pets, don't like Core Hounds nor Nether Rays |
| 13:00.53 | Semlar | i just take no pets |
| 13:01.10 | Shockah | i'm BM though |
| 13:01.24 | Semlar | my raid has a shaman and 6 hunters |
| 13:02.31 | Semlar | i wonder if the artifact does anything that somehow changes this |
| 13:03.08 | Semlar | since one of the main reasons i played a hunter was the flexible utility it brought to most situations |
| 13:06.11 | Semlar | but now i have no traps and no passive movement speed increase |
| 13:06.49 | Semlar | marksmanship seems to be stuck casting aimed shots |
| 13:07.40 | Semlar | i don't know what its damage is going to be like at 110 yet |
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| 13:11.13 | Semlar | i'm just wondering if other classes feel as gutted as i do about mine |
| 13:16.18 | foxlit | nope, you should've rolled a druid. |
| 13:17.51 | Semlar | i knew it |
| 13:18.46 | foxlit | We just whine about missing travel form glyphs and not having an instant 100% ground mount. |
| 13:20.16 | Semlar | why can't my hunter use glyph of flap |
| 13:20.26 | foxlit | I wonder if they fixed that glyph |
| 13:20.38 | foxlit | (clicking on the youtube buttons in battle.net launcher videos seems to launch two browser windows :/) |
| 13:21.26 | foxlit | (you couldn't Flap in Moonkin form granted by the talent) |
| 13:21.34 | Semlar | :( |
| 13:22.20 | Semlar | we apparently can still talent into wyvern sting, but it has a cast time, only lasts 30 seconds and has a 45 second cooldown |
| 13:25.27 | Semlar | so at least we have a CC |
| 13:25.38 | Semlar | sort of |
| 13:25.52 | Semlar | as long as you don't need to controlled for more than 30 seconds |
| 13:26.48 | Semlar | s/to/it |
| 13:33.07 | foxlit | wait, flap isn't a glyph, it's a book. |
| 13:34.18 | Semlar | even better |
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| 14:02.48 | nevcairiel | They fixed flap, it works with the affinity now |
| 14:08.09 | mikma | it's now called "fap" and always does critical damage. |
| 14:10.12 | Ammako | <.< |
| 14:39.45 | VIad | I procced fap a while ago, hits quite hard |
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| 15:52.01 | Stanzilla | hey Guill TheDanW http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=318349#post318349 :) |
| 15:53.27 | Shockah | so THAT'S the issue i have :C |
| 15:57.35 | mukunda | Is there a way to tell if the client is in the background, aka tabbed out? |
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| 16:07.46 | Gnarfoz | you could check if the FPS is very close to the configure max background fps? :D |
| 16:08.15 | Gnarfoz | (does the flash taskbar api thing do the checking interally? it doesn't flash when it's in the foreground) |
| 16:09.06 | karl_w_w | is it just me or this plot of crouching tiger hidden dragon really hard to follow? |
| 16:09.13 | karl_w_w | the plot* |
| 16:13.28 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: somehow i dont think they consider that a particularly crucial problem |
| 16:15.05 | fewyn | i don't have... mage, paladin, warrior, monk, shaman? what should i do next? |
| 16:15.20 | nevcairiel | monks suck |
| 16:15.24 | fewyn | i know |
| 16:15.28 | fewyn | i mained one in wod |
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| 16:26.23 | mukunda | Gnarfox, heh.. :P - and yeah it looks like it doesnt flash it if its in the foreground anyway, and thats basically what im after, so no problem then |
| 16:28.19 | Gnarfoz | ah? well, problem solved itself, then |
| 16:28.43 | Gnarfoz | also, tab complete is your friend ;P |
| 16:29.27 | mukunda | oops |
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| 16:32.07 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: yeah same, but maaaaybe |
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| 16:37.10 | LogicFoo12345 | I'm trying to code a submenu option that is an extra button under the right-click options for certain frames like party, target, and raid. I can get a button to add to it that does things but I just can't convert it to a submenu. Once I add hasArrow to it, I start producing LUA errors when the cursor hovers over it. Does anyone know of an addon example that implements something like this that I could study for answers or |
| 16:37.11 | LogicFoo12345 | point me to some guide on the internet? I haven't been able to turn up anything on Google that is updated |
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| 16:39.28 | LogicFoo12345 | here's my code: http://pastebin.com/W4rThSRq |
| 16:41.36 | jnwhiteh | Anyone up for sharing a room at Blizzcon? |
| 16:41.49 | jnwhiteh | I haven't booked yet, but would share if someone wants to cut down on the costs |
| 16:47.05 | mikma | logicfoo12345: what are the errors |
| 16:56.22 | LogicFoo12345 | 719x FrameXML\UnitPopup.lua:1338: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 16:56.22 | LogicFoo12345 | [C]: in function `ipairs' |
| 16:57.12 | mikma | now i would look at UnitPopup.lua line 1338 |
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| 16:59.14 | LogicFoo12345 | yeah, so apparently this is nil |
| 16:59.16 | LogicFoo12345 | UnitPopupMenus[dropdownFrame.which] |
| 16:59.23 | LogicFoo12345 | not sure how to make that not nil |
| 16:59.56 | mikma | if you have the original wow code extracted, you could check what's the correct way of using that function |
| 17:01.54 | mikma | seems like it takes a table of data in and forms the dropdown from that |
| 17:02.00 | mikma | https://github.com/t3hpr1m3/wow-addons/blob/master/Prat-3.0/services/unitpopupmenus.lua |
| 17:09.27 | LogicFoo12345 | ok. thanks, i'll keep taking a look but i'm not sure that prat code is doing what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to add a submenu to the context menu that comes up when you right-click a target's frame |
| 17:09.59 | LogicFoo12345 | the code that is erroring out is blizzard's frameXml junk and I don't have a lot of experience with that so i'll keep reading |
| 17:11.12 | LogicFoo12345 | it seems so simple at first glance...just add another menu that works almost exactly like the "Target Marker Icon" menu, but add my own functions to when you click each target marker |
| 17:11.30 | mikma | yeah but if you |
| 17:11.42 | mikma | are wishing to add another dropdown, you need to give it a table |
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| 17:14.21 | LogicFoo12345 | definitely makes sense. just implementing that is the hard part for me. what's in the table? do i use a blizzard function to create the table? what values are in the table? |
| 17:14.54 | mikma | i think you need to put the data in correct form. not sure what's the required way, need to inspect |
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| 17:16.01 | LogicFoo12345 | same. be back way later...need go to buy a new mouse mine just gave out |
| 17:17.55 | karl_w_w | RIP Mr Squiggles |
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| 17:47.41 | mukunda | hmm... is there some way to go about accessing the sub elements in a ScrollingMessageFrame? i want to add a background color per-line |
| 17:47.58 | mukunda | a highlight effect |
| 17:52.57 | mukunda | ah - i suppose GetRegions is related, and i just need to tinker a bit to see how to link them to lineIDs... |
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| 18:03.34 | karl_w_w | feels bad man |
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| 19:20.18 | karl_w_w | http://abcnews.go.com/US/kids-practice-reading-shy-shelter-dogs-missouri-humane/story?id=37191962 |
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| 19:28.14 | karl_w_w | damn VIad, things got crazy |
| 19:28.34 | karl_w_w | SEA players on secret, Fear left EG, and looks like Alliance disbanding |
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| 20:05.03 | fewyn | so what spec would be best for invasion leveling? prot or ret? for tagging things? |
| 20:05.50 | Semlar | aren't you going to get your artifact weapon? |
| 20:06.04 | Semlar | or does it matter |
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| 20:06.21 | fewyn | i'm level 10 Semlar |
| 20:06.26 | Semlar | o you mean now |
| 20:06.34 | Semlar | i thought you said legion |
| 20:06.44 | Semlar | whatever spec can tag the most things |
| 20:06.51 | fewyn | i don't know! |
| 20:06.57 | Semlar | doesn't prot have that shield thing |
| 20:06.57 | fewyn | i've not palaalalalalaladined in awhile |
| 20:07.01 | Semlar | captain america |
| 20:07.21 | Semlar | should be easier to tag things at range |
| 20:07.40 | Semlar | less likely to die |
| 20:08.07 | fewyn | so prot? |
| 20:09.15 | mfgmfg2 | i just go in a demolisher in azshara and tag stuff at range |
| 20:09.17 | Semlar | i don't know, read theirs kills |
| 20:14.07 | foxlit | Ret is rather meh in the ranged attacks department. |
| 20:17.52 | Semlar | holy shock |
| 20:18.35 | VIad | wtf karl_w_w |
| 20:20.55 | VIad | karl_w_w: tbh fear was extremely disappointed in the TI6 |
| 20:21.07 | VIad | he looked very annoyed most of the time after they lost |
| 20:21.12 | VIad | maybe some struggle on team? |
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| 21:02.42 | foxlit | spell ranks :( |
| 21:03.16 | foxlit | Is there a class ability you'd want actually want /cast Name instead of /cast Name(Rank)? |
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| 21:03.47 | foxlit | s/you'd want/for which you'd/ |
| 21:07.03 | Thunder_Child | If a spell doesn't have a rank? |
| 21:07.45 | foxlit | Name() would work in that case. |
| 21:09.58 | foxlit | The concern is that there might be a spell which mutates between Name(One) and Name(Two) and you really want to cast whichever variant is available now. |
| 21:10.58 | foxlit | think Trap Launcher might've worked like that at some point, and maybe some warlock metamorphosis sillinesss. |
| 21:20.09 | Ironii | how can i skip to next loop(?) in lua for loop? |
| 21:20.25 | Ironii | well, not next loop...i don't know what its called ;p, skipping ? |
| 21:21.09 | Ironii | something like for k,v in pairs(t) do if k == 'stuff' then return end but without breaking the loop :P |
| 21:22.29 | Ironii | (im looping trough data and i don't want it to do anything if it finds v.hidden) |
| 21:23.14 | foxlit | you can't. |
| 21:23.48 | Ironii | really ? O.o |
| 21:23.53 | Ironii | thats unexpected |
| 21:23.53 | foxlit | really. There's no continue. |
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| 21:24.20 | foxlit | Put the rest of your loop in inside an if, and laugh at anyone who tells you that this is a well-designed language. |
| 21:24.51 | Ironii | thats what i have done in the past, but tbh i thought there would be an "easier" way |
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| 21:31.11 | mukunda | are text emotes localized on the server? |
| 21:31.58 | Semlar | i would think they'd be localized by the client |
| 21:32.42 | Semlar | do you suppose token prices will go up or down with the expansion |
| 21:33.35 | Ironii | up |
| 21:33.42 | mukunda | i think they'll go down a bit more, and then up again after a little while |
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| 21:34.01 | mukunda | with people wanting to buy legion stuff |
| 21:34.21 | mukunda | before whatever stupid new gold generation things there are |
| 21:34.29 | zenzelezz | expansions are always interesting times for such items |
| 21:35.05 | foxlit | *first expansion for the token* |
| 21:36.24 | mukunda | think searching for "you" in a text emote is a safe english way to see if an emote is targeting you? :P |
| 21:36.36 | Semlar | not likely |
| 21:36.49 | Semlar | are you sure the message doesn't contain a target parameter |
| 21:37.15 | Semlar | chat messages can have "targets" |
| 21:37.16 | mukunda | i just checked |
| 21:37.20 | Semlar | i don't know if emotes do |
| 21:37.23 | mukunda | nothing for text emotes |
| 21:37.40 | nebula | as in /me emotes? |
| 21:37.52 | mukunda | as in /poke /wave etc |
| 21:37.55 | Semlar | i think he means from other people |
| 21:38.05 | mukunda | im making a thing to beep when someone interacts with you with those |
| 21:40.25 | Semlar | i don't know, it won't let me emote at myself |
| 21:40.45 | mukunda | im using two accounts and it only has the text for it and the source/guid |
| 21:41.18 | Semlar | the one emote i just tried had the word "you" in it having originated from myself, but you could filter that out by checking the source i suppose |
| 21:42.06 | mukunda | if contains whole word "you" and isn't from yourself |
| 21:42.09 | mukunda | ah, so hacky |
| 21:42.27 | foxlit | /me steals your lunch. |
| 21:42.41 | Semlar | i mean, do you care if it's a real emote |
| 21:43.10 | mukunda | only text emotes |
| 21:43.17 | mukunda | as in TEXT_EMOTE event |
| 21:43.40 | Semlar | well i think you still get an emote event if someone makes their own |
| 21:43.48 | mukunda | theyre different events |
| 21:43.53 | Semlar | really? |
| 21:44.03 | mukunda | CHAT_MSG_EMOTE and CHAT_MSG_TEXT_EMOTE |
| 21:44.28 | Semlar | interesting |
| 21:46.46 | Ketho | are you maybe testing on moon guard, I always get confused if someone used a custom emote or it was really targeted at me |
| 21:48.00 | Semlar | i can only assume you have your chat frame hidden if you're on moonguard |
| 21:49.33 | Semlar | i unfortunately keep getting CRZ'd with moonguard because i'm on wyrmrest accord |
| 21:49.45 | mukunda | the new phasing is so dumb |
| 21:49.53 | Semlar | and that apparently means i also get their chat |
| 21:50.06 | mukunda | there literally cant be big world events with it |
| 21:50.11 | nebula | that's what you get for being on an rp server |
| 21:50.26 | Semlar | :( |
| 21:52.01 | Semlar | i also don't get how there are people in trade chat that when i shift-click their name i get "0 players total" |
| 21:52.34 | Semlar | i can't even look this guy up on the armory |
| 21:53.31 | mukunda | under level 10 |
| 21:54.49 | Semlar | no, no results |
| 21:55.01 | Seerah | can trial account post in trade? |
| 21:55.04 | Semlar | no |
| 21:55.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.15 | Seerah | logged off real quick? |
| 21:55.22 | mukunda | it hides it from /who if theyre under level 10 |
| 21:55.25 | mukunda | and armory |
| 21:55.28 | Semlar | what |
| 21:55.43 | Seerah | does it hide from /who? why? |
| 21:55.52 | mukunda | who knows |
| 21:55.56 | Seerah | didn't used to |
| 21:56.48 | mukunda | it does now, probably some kind of privacy reason, considering theyre hidden on the armory as well |
| 21:57.09 | Seerah | I figured it wasn't shown on the armory to save storage space |
| 21:57.11 | Semlar | they are hidden on the armory but it used to still give results |
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| 21:57.24 | Semlar | like when you searched for their name, it would still show them on the list of search results |
| 21:57.30 | Semlar | you just couldn't view their profile |
| 21:57.43 | mukunda | idk, ive never been able to shift click a lowbie |
| 21:58.01 | Seerah | that's right - because that's how I got my name (Seerah) back on this server. |
| 21:58.13 | Seerah | was able to tell the GM that it was just a lvl 1 |
| 21:58.30 | eindoofus | hi, is it alright to ask a question pertaining to the game WOW here? like character choices? |
| 21:58.32 | Semlar | seems to just completely filter them out now |
| 21:58.46 | Semlar | this is a wow-free zone |
| 21:58.54 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Semlar |
| 21:58.54 | purl | beats Semlar into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 21:58.54 | Semlar | we mostly talk about torhal's cats |
| 21:59.08 | Thunder_Child | Sure eindoofus. |
| 21:59.09 | Seerah | eindoofus: well, this channel's focus is the UI/API/coding, but you are free to ask ;) |
| 21:59.37 | Seerah | we're not always on topic :p |
| 21:59.42 | Thunder_Child | Torhal has cats? Just another strike against him. |
| 21:59.50 | Seerah | they hide in his hair |
| 22:00.00 | Thunder_Child | That I believe. |
| 22:00.03 | Semlar | how could you tell |
| 22:00.37 | Seerah | have you seen him around a dog? goes all crazy |
| 22:00.39 | Thunder_Child | It's that or Torhal is amazing at cat ventriloquism. |
| 22:00.51 | Seerah | or maybe Torhal *is* a cat |
| 22:01.02 | Semlar | what, like 17 cats dressed up like a person? |
| 22:01.21 | Seerah | maaaaybe |
| 22:02.40 | eindoofus | thanks :). hi, just wondering what are the most sought after classes in groups? trying to find a class where i can be useful and social. basically i'm lonely and need to be needed. lol |
| 22:03.05 | Seerah | Blizzard's made it so that there is no one class that has to be in a group |
| 22:03.07 | Semlar | healer |
| 22:03.14 | Seerah | ^^ role |
| 22:03.18 | Seerah | tank, dps |
| 22:03.23 | Semlar | also be good |
| 22:03.36 | Semlar | or at least entertaining |
| 22:04.09 | Seerah | but those two things ^^ and you're golden with whatever class you want |
| 22:04.20 | Seerah | maybe find a good guild home |
| 22:04.31 | eindoofus | what are the top tanking classes? haven't really tried that |
| 22:04.34 | Semlar | i would say be a tank but that might be trickier |
| 22:04.56 | Semlar | there are more slots for a healer in a raid |
| 22:05.33 | Semlar | but it's still in demand and technically less is expected of you |
| 22:05.43 | Seerah | Is there a *top* tanking class? |
| 22:05.55 | Semlar | man i have no idea what any of the classes are going to be like at 110 at this point |
| 22:05.56 | Seerah | don't go mage or hunter for tank ;) |
| 22:06.01 | eindoofus | not sure if this was a mistake but my friend was playing my character and choice to go the blood priest route, or whatever it's called |
| 22:06.11 | Semlar | well |
| 22:06.20 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxS7eT_ky4#t=15s |
| 22:06.20 | Seerah | shadow? |
| 22:06.28 | eindoofus | ah, yup. shadow |
| 22:06.42 | eindoofus | believe that affects my ability to be a healer |
| 22:07.03 | eindoofus | was enjoying that character till then. is it still useful? |
| 22:07.06 | Semlar | not really, you can just change specs |
| 22:07.07 | Seerah | I'm not up on priest specs any more |
| 22:07.32 | Semlar | i mean you can play as shadow if you want |
| 22:08.21 | Semlar | also you probably shouldn't actually tell people that you're shadow because someone else was playing your character |
| 22:08.45 | Seerah | account sharing is a no-no |
| 22:09.04 | eindoofus | it wasn't exactly like that, but i get what you're saying |
| 22:10.03 | eindoofus | i miss the days of being an enchanter in everquest, lol. everything seems a bit muddied now. i haven't gotten far enough to be in any major raids but is there any strategy between classes? |
| 22:10.26 | Semlar | i mostly just roll my face on the keyboard, but i also main a hunter |
| 22:10.27 | eindoofus | so far it's been pretty non-social. everyone just trying to get XP |
| 22:10.41 | Semlar | your mileage may vary |
| 22:11.28 | Seerah | well, the past couple of weeks have just been people gearing up for the new expansion. Especially with invasions |
| 22:11.36 | Seerah | I just got my last alt to 100 today. |
| 22:11.45 | znf | looks at Simca |
| 22:11.46 | Semlar | i would say getting people to like you will have a lot more to do with your personality than the class you pick, although you do still have to actually not be terrible at the game |
| 22:11.47 | znf | you in hots now? |
| 22:12.26 | Simca | me? |
| 22:12.34 | znf | yes? |
| 22:12.35 | Simca | I don't play heroes, so no |
| 22:12.39 | znf | oh, ok |
| 22:12.55 | Semlar | oh god i'm on moonguard again |
| 22:12.56 | znf | there's a Simca guy in my random group |
| 22:12.59 | Thunder_Child | He plays failures. |
| 22:13.14 | Simca | Thunder_Child: generally |
| 22:15.03 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/QPSvL2n.png |
| 22:15.06 | znf | someone explain me ranks |
| 22:15.42 | znf | better == higher number or lower? (I'm assumign lower) |
| 22:15.49 | nebula | higher |
| 22:16.22 | nebula | <.< |
| 22:16.35 | eindoofus | Semlar, i guess i'm not running into the people of not liking me, it's that no one talks in the dungeons (at least while leveling up as a priest). does that change with raids? |
| 22:16.50 | eindoofus | i haven't played that far yet |
| 22:17.12 | Semlar | oh, yeah you're never going to see any of those people in dungeons again so they may as well not be real |
| 22:17.20 | znf | so how am I grouped with #1 if I'm still in placement? |
| 22:17.36 | nebula | you still have an mmr |
| 22:17.56 | Semlar | your main social connections are going to be through a guild on your server |
| 22:17.59 | Seerah | not particularly. dungeon/raid finder is usually for those who want to get something done, not socialize. Like Semlar said, you may never see that person again. |
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| 22:18.24 | foxlit | znf: also those portrait borders look terribly uunimpressive. |
| 22:18.40 | eindoofus | how is the cooperation in raids? is it still pretty random, except people know each other? or do some sort of strategies come into play? |
| 22:19.00 | foxlit | so it's like "rank 1, garbage league." |
| 22:19.09 | Seerah | well, hopefully you, at the very least, pay attention to what's going on around you and in the UI |
| 22:19.30 | Semlar | well if you're in a guild run there will be cooperation |
| 22:19.32 | Seerah | and it helps 10x if you know what you're getting into |
| 22:19.49 | foxlit | ah, no, it's like "garbage league, part 1 of X" |
| 22:19.55 | Semlar | if you're in LFR it probably doesn't matter if there's any cooperation |
| 22:20.03 | foxlit | some of those people are "garbage league, part 2 of X" |
| 22:20.47 | eindoofus | is there a way to seek out guilds if you're new to WOW or is that pretty random? |
| 22:21.05 | eindoofus | for example, i'm 33 and would prefer and older crowd |
| 22:21.20 | foxlit | and I'm still wrong. |
| 22:21.22 | foxlit | znf: "Each tier from Bronze through Diamond is further divided into five divisions. The lowest division within a tier is 5; division 1 is the highest." |
| 22:21.22 | Simca | znf: nebula said higher = better, so rank 1 sounds like it would be the lowest possible rank |
| 22:21.38 | Seerah | eindoofus: did you check out the guild finder? |
| 22:21.47 | Semlar | you may have people recruiting in trade chat or something |
| 22:21.52 | Seerah | or you can post on your server's forum |
| 22:22.06 | Semlar | there are places outside the game that guilds will recruit on |
| 22:22.17 | nebula | znf: there's bronze (those players), silver, gold, platinum, master, each tier is ranked 1-5, 1 being the best, and leading into the next tier if you get enough points and in a promotion match |
| 22:22.21 | Simca | contradicted by better information in the same second, nice |
| 22:22.23 | eindoofus | cool. i'll check that out. thanks guys |
| 22:22.29 | nebula | and win* |
| 22:22.43 | Semlar | a lot of actual "applying" to guilds is for more like serious raiding though |
| 22:23.01 | Semlar | kinda depends on the guild |
| 22:25.22 | Munk | Anyone fairly experienced with libactionbutton? |
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| 22:26.08 | nebula | erm, missed diamond before master |
| 22:26.09 | znf | why do I get matched up with bronze? :P |
| 22:26.17 | znf | also, "top" bronze? |
| 22:26.21 | znf | I'm stil in placement |
| 22:26.33 | Munk | Have it set up to swap out actions when a modifier is held down, but clicking on the action button while a modifier is held down fires the original action instead. |
| 22:26.34 | nebula | your rank is mostly a reflection of your mmr |
| 22:27.00 | nebula | so your mmr must be around bronze levels to be matched with them |
| 22:27.00 | foxlit | if they started you against the bottom tier, the lives of that bottom tier would be miserable. |
| 22:27.49 | foxlit | I mean, the matchmaker has to have a category for people who can essentially be replaced by cats walking on keyboards with no externally-observable detrimental effects. |
| 22:28.24 | Hazal | ~framexml |
| 22:28.24 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 22:29.16 | eindoofus | a bit confused. is WOW Legion out already? i'm seeing "Pre-purchase" on the website |
| 22:29.23 | nebula | 30th |
| 22:29.39 | nebula | there's a pre-legion that's been going on, though, eindoofus |
| 22:29.42 | nebula | event* |
| 22:29.44 | eindoofus | ahhh |
| 22:30.45 | eindoofus | how do the level upgrades work if i pre-purchase? is it the one lvl 100 when it comes out? and do i have to wait till the 30th? |
| 22:31.17 | eindoofus | sorry, i guess this is getting more into customer support questions |
| 22:31.53 | foxlit | you should get one immediately. |
| 22:32.13 | eindoofus | cool, and the 90 lvl upgrade no longer applies? |
| 22:32.26 | Simca | no, not really |
| 22:32.28 | eindoofus | it's just the one lvl 100 |
| 22:32.32 | foxlit | Well, if you still have a 90 upgrade, you can probably still spend it. |
| 22:32.42 | foxlit | You just can't get any new 90 upgrades, since they no longer sell wod. |
| 22:34.00 | Semlar | did they ever get around to implementing that "try this spec at level 100" feature |
| 22:37.06 | Simca | don't think so |
| 22:37.28 | Simca | there's a ton of voiceovers, quests, and other data in the game for it, but none of it is used afaik |
| 22:40.14 | Semlar | how am i supposed to pick which class to boost and then never play again |
| 22:40.21 | nebula | Semlar: randomly |
| 22:40.27 | Semlar | oh alright fine |
| 22:40.28 | foxlit | do what I do: just never spend the boost. |
| 22:40.29 | Simca | pick rogue |
| 22:40.32 | foxlit | Same effect. |
| 22:40.41 | Simca | you can use it for lockboxes at least |
| 22:40.54 | Simca | it's a better idea than not spending it anyway |
| 22:41.03 | nebula | for 90 i did rogue, never played it, still sitting on my 100 |
| 22:41.04 | foxlit | do lockboxes even exist in recent content? |
| 22:41.12 | Simca | yes |
| 22:41.15 | Simca | not sure about legion |
| 22:42.27 | Semlar | you're right, i should save the boost until i know which class is the most overpowered at 110 |
| 22:45.03 | Semlar | or maybe which class is second after the brand new hero class they made |
| 22:48.16 | Semlar | you can't go wrong with double jump and eyebeams |
| 22:49.22 | nebula | after playing vengeance a fair armount on beta, it mades me sad warrior can only heroic leap once ;; |
| 22:49.41 | Semlar | lol an infiltrator just mind controlled someone's bank alt and i instantly killed it with barrage |
| 22:49.48 | nebula | bully |
| 22:49.58 | Semlar | it walked in front of me! |
| 22:50.06 | Semlar | it was basically suicide! |
| 22:50.34 | Semlar | i can't be held accountable for my actions |
| 22:50.43 | nebula | said every hunter using barrage ever |
| 22:54.57 | znf | <foxlit> do lockboxes even exist in recent content? |
| 22:54.59 | znf | come to think of it |
| 22:55.05 | znf | I haven't seen any in the multitude of dungeons I did |
| 22:57.27 | znf | 0 deaths, 25 assists |
| 22:57.29 | znf | not bad, I guess |
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| 23:08.41 | AmiYuy | Do I need to worry about localization with slash commands? |
| 23:12.25 | Torhal | Seerah: I also have a dog! |
| 23:15.32 | Thunder_Child | That's what you took away from everything we said about you? |
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| 23:29.27 | Torhal | Aye. |
| 23:30.32 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 23:33.11 | pnorman | wow, the console has a lot of stuff during pet battles |
| 23:34.16 | nebula | AmiYuy: if you want to localize some, you can of course, i've never worried about it, though |
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| 23:50.02 | jro | how would I pull a table using a function lookup as a key, ie myvalue = sometable[somefucntion] |
| 23:50.10 | jro | where somefunction returns 5 |
| 23:50.44 | Semlar | call your function by putting parentheses on it? |
| 23:52.21 | jro | this is what i was trying : desc = SlamAndAwe.priorityTable.name[SlamAndAwe:GetPriority(1)] |
| 23:53.29 | Semlar | what's the error |
| 23:54.05 | jro | no error, just nothing returns |
| 23:54.35 | jro | hmmm |
| 23:55.23 | AmiYuy | nebula: Thanks, just trying to keep aware when creating new text. :) |
| 23:55.28 | jro | getpriority returns a table it seems |
| 23:58.51 | jro | sweet |
| 23:58.57 | jro | was looking at the wrong table |
| 23:59.05 | jro | SlamAndAwe.db.char.priority.prOption[index] |
| 23:59.08 | jro | er |
| 23:59.12 | jro | desc = SlamAndAwe.priorityTable.name[SlamAndAwe.db.char.priority.prOption[1]] |
| 23:59.16 | jro | that did it |
| 23:59.17 | jro | :) |
