| 00:10.46 | kullervo | how does Resto shaman become immune to interrupts? |
| 00:11.21 | Semlar | being interrupted too many times |
| 00:11.41 | kullervo | must have something else too |
| 00:12.13 | Semlar | grounding totem? |
| 00:12.20 | kullervo | might help vs mages |
| 00:12.27 | kullervo | but I've seen immunity to kick |
| 00:12.31 | kullervo | maybe ascendance has something... |
| 00:12.58 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=166096/item-shaman-wod-pvp-elemental-2p-bonus |
| 00:13.38 | Semlar | this isn't for resto though |
| 00:13.39 | kullervo | ele has it but I see nothing for resto |
| 00:14.36 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=159651/glyph-of-spiritwalkers-aegis |
| 00:15.03 | kullervo | thanks |
| 00:15.17 | kullervo | is the buff actually "glyph of spiritwalker's aegis" |
| 00:15.44 | Semlar | i'm sure the buff is just spiritwalker's grace |
| 00:15.52 | Neffi | touches Semlar's butt. |
| 00:15.58 | Semlar | not in public neffi |
| 00:15.58 | kullervo | ah so it can't be tracked |
| 00:16.02 | Neffi | :( |
| 00:16.07 | Neffi | runs away |
| 00:17.20 | Semlar | depends on whether the glyph actually modifies the buff in a way you can detect, like changing its tooltip or something |
| 00:17.43 | Semlar | seems unlikely |
| 00:18.51 | Semlar | it's only for the first 5 seconds of it so maybe it does have a separate buff |
| 00:19.14 | Semlar | i don't have a shaman so you're on your own |
| 00:19.18 | kullervo | well I just made a custom weak aura that displays target as immune to interrupts while duration >10s |
| 00:20.10 | Semlar | if i had to guess |
| 00:20.20 | Semlar | it might give a second buff called spiritwalker's aegis |
| 00:20.55 | kullervo | oh silly |
| 00:20.57 | Semlar | or glyph of spiritwalker's aegis |
| 00:20.59 | kullervo | there's an uncategorized spell |
| 00:21.46 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=131558/spiritwalkers-aegis maybe |
| 00:22.04 | kullervo | I'm just matching this by name |
| 00:24.29 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_061015_032425.jpg |
| 00:29.25 | znf | I just realized something |
| 00:29.37 | znf | I could be claiming all local businesses on Google Local for myself |
| 00:29.52 | znf | The post-lady always delivers things with my name on it to my place instead of the actual business address |
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| 02:52.13 | WrathTECH | Torhal: You around? |
| 02:52.30 | Torhal | I'm definitely not square. |
| 02:52.43 | pompy1 | that was a bad joke, Torhal |
| 02:52.50 | WrathTECH | Rofl |
| 02:52.58 | Torhal | No shit. :P |
| 02:53.47 | WrathTECH | Hey I re aligned all my tabs, should I put local at the start of every line or just where a frame is crated. (I'd assum if the frame is set to local, it's contents are local. |
| 02:55.15 | Torhal | Anything that is a variable that you don't want leaked into the global namespace (basically everything that doesn't NEED to be globally-accessible) should be declared as local. |
| 02:55.32 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.54 | Torhal | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#3.5 and http://lua-users.org/wiki/LocalByDefault have some explanation, but if you're familiar with namespacing at all, you should already know why global isn't the best idea by default. |
| 02:56.05 | WrathTECH | That would be pretty much everything. lol... I don't have any reason to supoort any addons at this time, at least, plugins |
| 02:56.16 | Torhal | Especially with common names like "frame" and "f" and the like. |
| 02:56.28 | WrathTECH | yeah, I did my best to keep from frame and f |
| 02:56.35 | Torhal | If you DO need global access, you should prefix with the name of your AddOn. Like "Platter_FooFrame" |
| 02:56.39 | WrathTECH | I knew that would really be an issue, in a split second |
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| 02:57.08 | Torhal | That way someone else with a "FooFrame" won't clobber yours and vice versa. |
| 02:58.22 | WrathTECH | Oh, and I've been figuring out the whole PlayerModel deal. Pretty slick and easy to do. Not much into on all the variables though making it a bit more interesting. |
| 02:59.12 | Torhal | The WoW UI's API is documented by the community, when we remember to and/or aren't lazy. I've been guilty of figuring out something that isn't documenting and then not going back and doing so, myself. |
| 02:59.19 | Torhal | So yeah, good luck :D |
| 02:59.25 | WrathTECH | ROFL! |
| 02:59.36 | Torhal | documented* |
| 02:59.44 | Torhal | Yay, I'm still failing at typing today. |
| 03:00.06 | WrathTECH | Btw, should I even bother with WoWInterface, doesn't seem to be much reason to use that site these days. |
| 03:00.14 | Torhal | I host there. |
| 03:00.29 | Torhal | Some people don't like Curse for whatever reason. Disclaimer: I work for Curse. |
| 03:00.54 | WrathTECH | Oh yeah, I figured you di. You helping with that initial addon upload I did. xD |
| 03:01.03 | Torhal | Ah, yeah |
| 03:01.12 | WrathTECH | < Typos rule. Meh |
| 03:02.09 | Seerah | WrathTECH: some people prefer WoWI |
| 03:02.19 | Seerah | and some would argue that it's better than Curse :p |
| 03:02.27 | WrathTECH | Question is then, is there any real benefits to using that site?? |
| 03:02.47 | Torhal | Community. |
| 03:02.52 | Seerah | better site, better search, better forums, better community |
| 03:03.15 | Torhal | You say better search and better forums as if those things exist on Curse, Seerah. |
| 03:03.16 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:03.32 | Seerah | a ticket system, you have your own portal, Minion updater, svn and git repositories....... |
| 03:03.34 | Seerah | Torhal: hehehe |
| 03:03.40 | WrathTECH | I suppose, it just seems to be so dead these days. It used to be pretty active back in Wotlk. |
| 03:03.59 | Torhal | There's a lull at the moment, which happens in cycles. |
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| 03:04.06 | Torhal | Been happening off and on for years. |
| 03:04.07 | Seerah | ^^^ |
| 03:04.09 | WrathTECH | True. |
| 03:04.27 | Seerah | goes with the game. We're into the xp now, so the playerbase lulls on the UI sites |
| 03:04.34 | Seerah | authors, too |
| 03:04.58 | Seerah | OH - and we manually approve every file that gets uploaded |
| 03:05.09 | Torhal | Also, on WoWI, the users generally don't demand that you FIX THIS RIGHT NOW ITS BROKEN GARBAGE. |
| 03:05.14 | Seerah | (I say we - disclaimer - I'm a mod there) |
| 03:05.28 | WrathTECH | Haha. Np Seerah :) |
| 03:05.30 | Seerah | well, some do but they get promptly smacked down by other users ;) |
| 03:05.33 | Torhal | Heh |
| 03:05.43 | WrathTECH | Torhal keeps smacking me down! |
| 03:05.47 | WrathTECH | xD |
| 03:05.47 | Torhal | >.> |
| 03:05.59 | Seerah | ~smack WrathTECH |
| 03:05.59 | purl | ACTION smacks WrathTECH upside the head. |
| 03:06.03 | WrathTECH | I'm working on it! :) |
| 03:06.07 | WrathTECH | Lol |
| 03:06.54 | Seerah | now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go try and not shoot myself while I practice regexp so I can teach it to my Lua student tomorrow >< |
| 03:06.59 | WrathTECH | Aight, gotta realign my buttons to the stupid MicroMenu after fixing a but with Bartender >.< |
| 03:07.12 | WrathTECH | Thank you Seerah, gl! |
| 03:07.48 | Torhal | Seerah: If you find regex in Lua, lemme know... :D |
| 03:08.07 | Seerah | well, it's the more advanced pattern matching stuff that looks like regexp |
| 03:08.23 | Seerah | you know, I'm just trying to bring home a paycheck over the summer :P |
| 03:08.37 | WrathTECH | Okay, I take the game has so many "points" in the ui, and it doesn't go by pixels. |
| 03:08.52 | Seerah | WrathTECH: ?? |
| 03:09.17 | WrathTECH | Just the pixels you would select don't seem to move it as much as it should. |
| 03:09.53 | WrathTECH | I'm only on 1920x1080 and just moved a button by -500 on the x axis. Still a long ways to go. |
| 03:09.57 | Seerah | if your resolution is 1600 across, 1 pixel doesn't go very far. :p |
| 03:10.03 | Torhal | The WoW UI's pixels actually scale, so they don't match the physical pixels. |
| 03:10.17 | WrathTECH | That's what I though, Torhal. |
| 03:10.29 | Seerah | unless you have UI scaling turned off |
| 03:10.52 | WrathTECH | No matter your res, they have a set amount of picels, correct? Apart from your Aspec Ration, I am sure it's a different set then. |
| 03:10.53 | Torhal | WrathTECH: http://wow.gamepedia.com/UI_Scale |
| 03:11.17 | WrathTECH | Gd, I can't type lastely. |
| 03:11.26 | WrathTECH | . . . I Give Up. |
| 03:12.42 | Seerah | I thought they changed it so that you don't need to do the calculations anymore. that you can actually have the game give you 1:1 |
| 03:12.56 | Torhal | So did I; sometime during MoP IIRC. |
| 03:13.30 | Seerah | I'm pretty sure that it's 1:1 if you have UI scale disabled now |
| 03:14.10 | Seerah | ah, yep - here's Phanx saying it, too: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50368&highlight=uiscale |
| 03:14.20 | Stanzilla | yes they did |
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| 03:16.23 | Torhal | scales Stanzilla to fit in places with humans. |
| 03:16.57 | Torhal | Ok, so, yeah... going to try for lying down and possibly reading a bit before passing out. |
| 03:17.47 | Seerah | ~pat Torhal |
| 03:17.48 | purl | ACTION pats Torhal and says "Nicely Done!" |
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| 03:45.48 | Seerah | alright, I'm at a loss... string.match("match some numbers 567 and ~this~ bit.", ".*%s(%d-)%s.*~(%a*)~") correctly prints out "567" and "this". However, I was trying to make it so that it would make the number match optional (so that it would still find "this" if there were no number and only one space). Everything I've tried makes it break and either return just "this" (even if 567 is present) or nil. |
| 03:47.45 | Neffi | Seerah: Can you give a more specific example of the input string? |
| 03:48.05 | Seerah | that is the input string |
| 03:48.16 | Neffi | you literally want to match this exact string? |
| 03:48.36 | Seerah | I want to pull out the number and the word between the tildas |
| 03:48.41 | Neffi | %5.1 return string.match("match some numbers 567 and ~this~ bit.", "%D*(%d+)%D*~(%a*)~") |
| 03:48.41 | yalb | Neffi: 567 this |
| 03:48.51 | Neffi | %5.1 return string.match("match some numbers 567 and ~this~ bit.", "%D*(%d*)%D*~(%a*)~") |
| 03:48.52 | yalb | Neffi: 567 this |
| 03:48.56 | Neffi | %5.1 return string.match("match some numbers and ~this~ bit.", "%D*(%d*)%D*~(%a*)~") |
| 03:48.56 | yalb | Neffi: this |
| 03:49.16 | Neffi | it'll still return two matches, one will just be an empty string |
| 03:49.22 | Seerah | oooh - I didn't even think of doing %D instead >< |
| 03:50.09 | A-KO | oh hey it's Seerah |
| 03:50.10 | A-KO | :D |
| 03:50.11 | Seerah | hugs Neffi |
| 03:50.15 | Neffi | :3 |
| 03:50.16 | Seerah | hihi |
| 03:50.37 | A-KO | i'm off to LA in 3 weeks :D A little vacation |
| 03:51.03 | Seerah | I haven't worked with pattern matching enough to get my head around it easily. Yet I decided I'd show it to my tutoring student tomorrow >< (teaching him Lua) |
| 03:51.08 | Seerah | i is smrt |
| 03:51.16 | Seerah | I saw :) have fun! |
| 03:51.26 | A-KO | gets an image of Homer in his head.... |
| 03:51.27 | Neffi | hehe |
| 03:51.33 | A-KO | "I am so smart. SMRT." |
| 03:51.38 | Seerah | yep! |
| 03:51.54 | Neffi | I still get tripped up with pattern matching and stuff sometimes |
| 03:52.02 | Neffi | All those symbols squished together is kinda hard to read |
| 03:52.14 | Neffi | Hard to wrap your head around something so informationally dense |
| 03:54.10 | Neffi | wraps his head around Semlar. |
| 03:59.32 | WrathTECH | Gawd I really need to reinstall all my addons. Start doing rpgramming on a copy of my client. >.> |
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| 04:40.40 | Neffi | here Semlar dis 4 u https://youtu.be/GbdflriheIM |
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| 04:55.09 | WrathTECH | Mr_Rabid: You there bud? |
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| 05:02.25 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.14 | WrathTECH | What do you guys think, should I have a one time tutorial for my addon, letting people know about some of the functionality? (i.e. Keybind support, and button movability) |
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| 05:35.38 | Arrowmaster | well im having a wonderful few days |
| 05:35.48 | kd3 | good or sarcastic? |
| 05:36.01 | Arrowmaster | really really good |
| 05:36.15 | kd3 | yay |
| 05:37.46 | Arrowmaster | i should goto bed |
| 05:38.16 | Arrowmaster | i have to be up in 5.5 hours |
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| 07:03.33 | WrathTECH | Isn't there an escape sequence to make a hyperlink to a website? |
| 07:04.09 | Fisker | don't die on your birthday Arrowmaster |
| 07:08.45 | VIad | no WrathTECH |
| 07:08.45 | Kalroth | aw |
| 07:08.55 | Kalroth | haffy birfday Fisker |
| 07:09.13 | WrathTECH | kk, will just hightlight the text in a different color then |
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| 07:46.39 | WrathTECH | Someone able to help me with save variables, trying to make a tutorial frame, that only shows once after youve clicked a button on it. http://pastebin.com/DyLKAzPB |
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| 09:00.08 | WrathTECH_ | Why is my saved variable always be written as nil? setting a new variable as platterNewTutorialVar = Complete, isn't saving properly? |
| 09:00.36 | WrathTECH_ | tried platterNewTutorialVar = "Complete" also |
| 09:10.25 | VIad | if you define your .toc properly it will save |
| 09:10.33 | VIad | just have to use the variable as global, not local |
| 09:10.51 | VIad | also remember you can use one global variable to hold all your variables if you just use a table :) |
| 09:12.14 | VIad | WrathTECH_: |
| 09:12.53 | WrathTECH_ | Ahh, see I was setting the variable as local in the beginning. |
| 09:14.54 | WrathTECH_ | now the other deal that's bugging me, is after i set the event, it's making like 10 copies of my frame |
| 09:20.06 | WrathTECH_ | Seems it's running the ADDON_LOADED event like 10 times. |
| 09:22.11 | WrathTECH_ | VIad, thank you, it's working perfectly now. Changed from ADDON_LOADED to VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 09:26.35 | nevcairiel | if you listen for ADDON_LOADED, you need to check the first argument. it'll be the name of your addon if your addon actually loaded |
| 09:26.49 | nevcairiel | you should not use VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 09:27.05 | nevcairiel | instead you should use ADDON_LOADED and check that this is the event for your adon |
| 09:27.08 | nevcairiel | +d |
| 09:30.27 | WrathTECH_ | so then it would be: if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and Platter == 1 then ? |
| 09:30.37 | WrathTECH_ | or just arg1 == 1 |
| 09:30.48 | nevcairiel | arg1 == "Platter" |
| 09:31.15 | WrathTECH_ | dahhhh. Okay then, let me give that one a shot.. |
| 09:34.59 | WrathTECH_ | With if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "Platter" then. my frame doesn't show even after clearing my addon's saved var file. |
| 09:37.38 | WrathTECH_ | http://pastebin.com/JSEDww5u Looks like I need to reverse the variables or something |
| 09:38.18 | WrathTECH_ | Supposed to be if the variable is = to 0 then show the frame, if the variable is = to 1 do nothing |
| 09:38.58 | nevcairiel | well your OnEvent function needs to declare arg1 in the argument list, or its not going to work very well |
| 09:39.22 | nevcairiel | make that ..SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, arg1) instead of the ..., and it should work |
| 09:41.13 | WrathTECH_ | Well, partially works, it's not reading the argument is now 1 and still shows the frame |
| 09:42.09 | WrathTECH_ | So the frame is showing every time you log in. |
| 09:46.34 | WrathTECH_ | I just added: if platterNewTutorialVar == 0 then after: if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "Platter" then seems to be functional again. |
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| 11:11.24 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: can i just kill you instead, i think the excitement of a murder is the only thing going to properly wake me up right now |
| 11:18.53 | VIad | WrathTECH_: dont make Arrowmaster kill you |
| 11:19.36 | WrathTECH_ | Lol. Just cudious, but why would he kill me? xD |
| 11:20.40 | WrathTECH_ | MR_Rabies: You there bro? |
| 11:20.42 | Arrowmaster | any body will due |
| 11:20.53 | WrathTECH_ | This is true. |
| 11:21.17 | WrathTECH_ | I'm not afraid of death, Im afraid how painful or peaceful it will be. lol |
| 11:33.59 | VIad | WrathTECH_: http://pastebin.com/8kNS34K2 |
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| 11:35.34 | VIad | I am sure Semlar or nevcairiel will happily correct my incorrect usage of some terms |
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| 12:23.12 | WrathTECH_ | Never expected to get into Lua this much. It's definitely a hobby now. Run a dungeon, program some, run another dungeon, program even more. |
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| 13:36.18 | karl_w_w | final fantasy record keeper is the best mobile game I've ever played |
| 13:36.46 | karl_w_w | which isnt a very high bar, but its still pretty good |
| 13:37.54 | nebula169 | it's a fun little time sink |
| 13:41.45 | karl_w_w | I chuckled: "i love gta errors. everytime i see an error i get my big wiener on my keyboard and let it slide over it to make interesting comments like this one" |
| 13:43.22 | karl_w_w | haha holy shit what shenanigens are microsoft pulling? |
| 13:43.44 | karl_w_w | "For all services except Skype, the Microsoft Services Agreement will now be between you and Microsoft Ireland Operations Limited" |
| 13:57.09 | VIad | *slides alcohol under the table* |
| 14:05.02 | Torhal | Am I just being half-asleep, or did he not answer my question and instead give background info on the project and then reiterate "there's a problem"? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=309077#post309077 |
| 14:05.37 | Torhal | That whole thread just seems like a long-winded "it dun werk!" without relevant information. |
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| 14:15.17 | VIad | so the trade api returns invalid data because it is requested at the wrong times? i.e. before certain event fired? |
| 14:16.29 | VIad | open a tradeskill, event fires, you proceed doing the rest. but seems like it don't on the 6.2 PTR? |
| 14:16.36 | VIad | it is a PTR could be a temporary bug |
| 14:17.05 | VIad | tbh should just look into how blizzards code works and work your way from there |
| 14:17.18 | VIad | Torhal: why did you loose your golden name? |
| 14:21.17 | nebula169 | foxlit: could you update http://wow.gamepedia.com/Global_functions ? or is there some hidden place on your site i can grab the values you use to categorize globals in globe |
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| 15:24.02 | Torhal | VIad: ? |
| 15:55.18 | VIad | back Torhal. I remember you had gold name on wowui before. |
| 15:55.33 | Torhal | Probably back in 2011 when I'd donated. |
| 15:56.24 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 15:56.30 | Fisker | heys Torhal |
| 15:56.40 | Torhal | heys Fisker |
| 15:56.43 | Torhal | Incommunicado? |
| 15:56.53 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:00.54 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 16:05.04 | Cairenn | awww maaaan |
| 16:05.24 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 16:05.24 | Fisker | :? |
| 16:05.25 | Cairenn | I go to get the water off my gazebo canopy and end up drenching myself |
| 16:05.42 | Fisker | starts huffing and puffing |
| 16:05.58 | nebula169 | it's like 90 degrees out, i'd be ok with that |
| 16:06.26 | Fisker | Guess you got yourself a gardener now Cairenn |
| 16:06.54 | bluspacecow | Do you even garden Fisker ? |
| 16:07.02 | Fisker | I once gardened a guy bluspacecow |
| 16:07.09 | nebula169 | unless it's gross stagnant water, then ew |
| 16:07.12 | bluspacecow | no wai! |
| 16:17.47 | bluspacecow | *giggles at the thought of Cairenn getting surprised drenched* |
| 16:18.18 | Cairenn | Yeah - would have been fine if I'd been expecting it and dressed for it |
| 16:18.48 | Fisker | You have a specific dress for getting drenched? |
| 16:18.50 | Cairenn | but drenched jeans are never overly comfortable :p |
| 16:18.52 | Fisker | stares |
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| 16:22.29 | bluspacecow | *summons hair dryer* |
| 16:22.35 | bluspacecow | *blasts Cairenn |
| 16:22.47 | Cairenn | lol thanks |
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| 16:24.04 | Fisker | the car wash ones are much more efficient |
| 16:27.02 | Fisker | tired |
| 16:30.29 | bluspacecow | on the PTR i am a green brown and purple akaroa |
| 16:30.36 | bluspacecow | i am punky brewster akkaroa |
| 16:35.53 | Semlar | dyslexikkoa |
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| 16:49.06 | bluspacecow | 406050111 |
| 16:49.21 | bluspacecow | is totally not my banking password |
| 16:49.24 | bluspacecow | hands off fisker! |
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| 17:05.49 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.07 | Stanzilla | Players will remain ground-bound on Draenor until a small follow-up patch (6.2.x), when all players who have earned Draenor Pathfinder on at least one character will unlock the ability to fly in Draenor on all their level 90+ characters. |
| 17:07.25 | Neffi | christ |
| 17:07.28 | Outrider | they gave up eh? |
| 17:07.29 | Neffi | this is gonna cause a stir |
| 17:07.37 | Semlar | grounds neffi |
| 17:07.43 | Neffi | Outrider: people still wont like that it's not outright flying |
| 17:07.55 | Neffi | airs Semlar |
| 17:08.01 | Outrider | true Neffi but I don't think this is a bad alternative |
| 17:08.02 | Stanzilla | what |
| 17:08.03 | Stanzilla | it is flying? |
| 17:08.15 | Outrider | Neffi: explore the damn world as is, then we'll grant you your goddamn flying |
| 17:08.51 | Neffi | Outrider: I don't think it's a _bad_ alternative, no |
| 17:08.59 | Neffi | I just think the community is not entirely reasonable -- or at all |
| 17:09.05 | Constie | You know who else didn't just give people the power of flight? Hitler. |
| 17:09.06 | Outrider | I agree with you there :) |
| 17:09.08 | Semlar | it's flying with an enormous prerequisite, i don't care either way but i guarantee the majority of people complaining about not being able to fly aren't going to like it |
| 17:09.24 | Semlar | they want to be able to fly because they're lazy |
| 17:09.24 | Neffi | I also think, entirely in retrospect, WoW would've been better off without flying altogether, but I'm making that call from an armchair several years after the fact, so that's hardly fair |
| 17:09.55 | Neffi | <Semlar> they want to be able to fly because they're lazy <- hehe, yup |
| 17:09.59 | Outrider | I loved being able to fly, but sometimes it was bad, and sometimes it was fun |
| 17:10.11 | Outrider | bad times were when I got ganked from on high |
| 17:10.18 | Torhal | burns Neffi's armchair to the ground. |
| 17:10.20 | Semlar | it broke aspects of the game |
| 17:10.22 | Torhal | Use the sofa, mofo. |
| 17:10.35 | Outrider | good times was when I could explore or just go to realllly remote areas |
| 17:10.35 | Neffi | It was really cool to be able to fly, and the really quick travel is great, but the latter could've been solved another way without destroying exploration, environmental interaction, world PvP skirmishes, etc |
| 17:10.49 | ColonelSilly | *walks in a silly manner* |
| 17:10.59 | Constie | You would. |
| 17:11.07 | ColonelSilly | Jimmies will be russled! |
| 17:11.20 | Neffi | I dont blame the devs for adding flying. It seemed like 100% the right thing to do. But having seen how it played out, if I were designing an MMO, I would absolutely say "you will never fly in this game" |
| 17:12.43 | Outrider | I asm designing an MMO, and plot twist... no flying... but for other reasons :D |
| 17:13.12 | Semlar | i personally feel like there should be no ground |
| 17:13.27 | Semlar | so your only option is to fly |
| 17:13.41 | Outrider | What if flying had to be done via landing strips or very large ground areas |
| 17:13.49 | Semlar | warcraft in space |
| 17:14.26 | Constie | I think there shouldn't be movement. The world would be much more peaceful. |
| 17:17.22 | ColonelSilly | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508176 |
| 17:23.35 | Outrider | oooo |
| 17:24.00 | Outrider | I had hoped they would do this from day one :D |
| 17:24.35 | Neffi | places Semlar in a void where there is no concept of motion. |
| 17:25.10 | kd3 | well, that was an interesting bit of news to wake up to |
| 17:26.40 | Fisker | Blizzard backpedaling when they get confronted? |
| 17:26.49 | kd3 | yah |
| 17:27.54 | Torhal | They did that with real names, so there was precedence. |
| 17:27.54 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:28.46 | Fisker | Exactly |
| 17:28.48 | ColonelSilly | @Torhal Oh rly ? |
| 17:29.02 | Ressy | When the community pushes back so hard, yeah |
| 17:31.05 | ColonelSilly | *dances with Fisker* |
| 17:31.34 | Fisker | Nope |
| 17:31.57 | Semlar | i would call it a compromise but that's just me |
| 17:32.17 | Fisker | Not really |
| 17:32.26 | Ressy | Not everyone will bother to get it. |
| 17:32.58 | Fisker | It was a "we better come up with something dumb to pretend we didn't actually just completely screw up" |
| 17:33.15 | Semlar | it's not even that much of a compromise, they're enforcing their stance that they want people to actually play the game rather than skip over everything with flying |
| 17:39.47 | Semlar | i like that some people are attacking them for listening to player feedback though |
| 17:46.17 | g0urra | I wonder just how long it'll take to grind those reps to revered |
| 17:46.31 | Torhal | attacks Semlar for liking things. |
| 17:46.59 | Fisker | attacks Torhal |
| 17:47.20 | karl_w_w | likes Torhal for attacking things |
| 17:48.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.57 | Fisker | I miss Tseric |
| 17:53.19 | WrathTECH | Anyone willing to take over nibChatTabs? Hasn't been updated since March, 11, 2013... really miss that addon. |
| 17:58.10 | zenzelezz | is it yours? |
| 17:58.16 | WrathTECH | Nope. |
| 17:58.38 | zenzelezz | bit weird to ask for someone to "take over" someone else's addon |
| 17:58.38 | WrathTECH | I wouldn't know where to start fixing it. Too new to Lua |
| 18:00.20 | WrathTECH | Fine if you think that. I tried contacting the author years ago, never got a reply. |
| 18:00.52 | zenzelezz | I'm not saying it's wrong, just unusual |
| 18:01.27 | WrathTECH | Trust me, it's taken me 2 months now to get Platter to where it is now, and still in beta :S |
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| 18:29.35 | ColonelSilly | so 3 hrs ago i found a pack of chocolate chip cookies |
| 18:29.39 | ColonelSilly | ½ of them gone already. |
| 18:30.00 | zenzelezz | been there |
| 18:40.43 | zenzelezz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1MhLVsvmc - one of the better renditions I've heard of the Jurassic Park theme |
| 18:45.14 | nevcairiel | so, blizzard caved and there will be flying |
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| 18:50.19 | Neffi | late nevcairiel |
| 18:51.20 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad about it... I give it 50/50 chance we'll still hear Amarande tirade about it |
| 18:53.25 | Torhal | zenzelezz: Damn you for summoning. |
| 18:53.44 | Outrider | Torhal: 2 more times and Amarande will appear |
| 18:53.47 | Outrider | 1 more |
| 18:53.53 | Torhal | You motherfu... |
| 18:53.56 | Torhal | >.< |
| 18:56.24 | kd3 | hahaha |
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| 19:41.58 | fewyn | i think the universe hates me or something, i came home from the grocery store with the power being out |
| 19:47.11 | kd3 | >.< |
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| 20:30.36 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.24 | foxlit | aka "you'd better not be red/green colorblind" |
| 20:35.07 | Semlar | mushroom |
| 20:35.35 | Semlar | two thumbs up |
| 21:00.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: happy birthday :D |
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| 21:25.15 | Mr_Rabies | is that something new coming to master plan or something foxlit :O |
| 21:26.03 | foxlit | I've run out of places to put buttons. |
| 21:26.42 | Outrider | require 2nd monitor then and make a mechandising deal with BenQ |
| 21:26.43 | Outrider | profit |
| 21:27.13 | foxlit | the tab is new, but getting to it might be tricky |
| 21:40.33 | kd3 | it's amusing listening to all of the locals freak out that it's been raining for hours today |
| 21:45.07 | foxlit | how does animation order actually work? |
| 21:45.40 | foxlit | every time I think "I know, I'll use SetOrder to have one thing play after another", it ends in spectacular failure |
| 21:46.42 | nevcairiel | it seems to work for me, although i only use it in a limited fashion |
| 21:46.53 | Semlar | i don't recall any particular issues with the ordering |
| 21:47.01 | Semlar | not that the animation system isn't screwy enough as it is |
| 21:47.55 | Semlar | it should play the next animation in order after the last one completes |
| 21:47.59 | foxlit | I imagine the model is something like "first, everything with order [0/1?] plays; after everything with order k has finished, everything with order k+1 begins" |
| 21:48.23 | nevcairiel | that seems to how it works for me |
| 21:48.31 | nevcairiel | i use 1 and 2 only though |
| 21:48.36 | nevcairiel | but 1 plays first, 2 after |
| 21:48.49 | Semlar | i think it's supposed to start at 1 but i don't think it really matters if you use 0 or even something else |
| 21:49.05 | foxlit | I assume things would get awkward if you started at -42, though. |
| 21:49.13 | nevcairiel | possibly |
| 21:49.29 | Semlar | i've used both 0 and 1 but i haven't tried adding gaps or anything |
| 21:51.46 | foxlit | it seems to start at 1 |
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| 21:55.15 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.05 | kullervo | pastebin got rid of their scriptless fallback |
| 21:56.14 | Semlar | why is pastebin not loading its stylesheet |
| 21:56.28 | foxlit | you/they have network issues |
| 21:56.43 | foxlit | it displays just fine even without js here. |
| 21:56.52 | kullervo | oh indeed, the css doesn't load |
| 21:57.05 | kullervo | I just assumed since I never allowed the scripts |
| 21:57.11 | kd3 | WAI here |
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| 22:44.17 | Stanzilla | new cvars, might be something for the wiki? kd3 http://i.imgur.com/hIA88Lp.png |
| 22:45.01 | kd3 | when I get off work, sure |
| 22:53.48 | Outrider | Question before I offend anyone I have a semi-NSFW type of link I want to share what are the channel rules regarding this? |
| 22:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | probably depends on how on-topic it is and what variety of semi-nsfw it is, lol |
| 22:58.04 | Outrider | its sort of sciencey? |
| 22:58.09 | Outrider | So not at all on topic |
| 22:58.44 | Stanzilla | Simca: what was that |
| 22:59.24 | Simca | background downloader update |
| 22:59.54 | Stanzilla | thought so |
| 23:00.28 | Stanzilla | whole EU is down atm anyway~~ |
| 23:00.30 | foxlit | heh, 26-minute battle.net queue |
| 23:01.45 | Mr_Rabies | honestly so long as it's not like straight up untagged, unsolicited porn or something i don't think anyone would care, really |
| 23:01.51 | Mr_Rabies | it's kinda quiet in here right now, lol |
| 23:02.25 | Outrider | Alright Ill mention first and if someone is interested in the link they can google or ask :) |
| 23:02.46 | Outrider | Pornhub is doing a crowd funding bit on Indiegogo for shooting the first Sex in Space video... |
| 23:03.27 | Outrider | They want 3.5 million I think |
| 23:03.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.55 | Outrider | the first |
| 23:04.02 | Outrider | they want to shoot the first porn in space |
| 23:04.08 | foxlit | so the second. |
| 23:04.30 | Stanzilla | heh https://twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768 |
| 23:04.36 | Outrider | I'm reading it diff, but second it is |
| 23:05.43 | foxlit | I suppose it's the difference between whether you read in an implied [set in] or [shot in] |
| 23:06.36 | Mr_Rabies | they could probably get spacex involved if they'd do a twofer in a tesla car to show off interior space |
| 23:06.43 | Outrider | I was reading it as "A Sex video in Space" as ->They want to send a sex tape up into space |
| 23:06.58 | Outrider | thats a pretty good idea Mr_Rabies :D |
| 23:07.06 | Outrider | should apply for director |
| 23:09.35 | foxlit | Stanzilla: Jonathan Blow's reply is very reasonable. |
| 23:09.53 | Stanzilla | foxlit: is it the one who said just flip the whiteboard? |
| 23:10.10 | foxlit | https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/608760382358880256 |
| 23:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | words i thought i'd never see, foxlit |
| 23:10.50 | Stanzilla | ah |
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| 23:13.09 | Outrider | That was a nice read |
| 23:13.44 | Outrider | I got rejected for a job with Motorola for similar reasons, my SQL knowledge was pretty bad. |
| 23:14.14 | Outrider | Ended up pouring over sqlzoo.net and it helped a lot |
| 23:14.41 | Outrider | the positions were filled by then though :). So its a bit of a bitter pill |
| 23:34.52 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know what "inverting a binary tree" means |
| 23:35.11 | Gnarfoz | and not sure what being a "product person" means |
| 23:35.29 | Gnarfoz | (does it mean "I don't actually know how to do things"?) |
| 23:36.13 | Outrider | a quick google is showing a lot of Java and C/C++ links for inverting binary trees. |
| 23:36.27 | Outrider | Never came across it in PHP/JS/LUA work |
| 23:36.40 | Neffi | Lua, not LUA! |
| 23:36.57 | Outrider | LuA then, my bad.... ;) |
| 23:37.02 | Neffi | hehe |
| 23:38.11 | Gnarfoz | what >_> |
| 23:38.21 | Gnarfoz | can't be that hard, it's not an abbreviation :D |
| 23:38.58 | Neffi | %LUA PRINT "LUA IS ITS OWN THING" |
| 23:38.59 | yalb | Neffi: LUA IS ITS OWN THING |
| 23:39.20 | Gnarfoz | y u so caps |
| 23:39.31 | Neffi | because it's LUA |
| 23:39.36 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 23:39.47 | Neffi | %LUA FOR K,V IN PAIRS(_G) DO PRINT(K,V) END |
| 23:39.47 | yalb | Neffi: GETMETATABLE FUNCTION: 0x4188e0; PACKAGE TABLE: 0xf540b0; LOADFILE FUNCTION: 0x418810; RAWEQUAL FUNCTION: 0x417e70; FOP FUNCTION: 0x417130; MODULE FUNCTION: 0xf52f00; MATH TABLE: 0xf574a0; SETMETATABLE FUNCTION: 0x418630; RAWSET FUNCTION: 0x417d80; TYPE FUNCTION: 0x4178e0; REQUIRE FUNCTION: 0xf544c0; BIT32 TABLE: 0xf56f50; SELECT FUNCTION: 0x417c60; PCALL FUNCTION: 0x418580; LOADSTRING FUNCTION: 0x4189a0; DOFILE |
| 23:39.58 | kd3 | loud~ |
| 23:39.59 | Gnarfoz | Y U SO CAPS |
| 23:40.12 | Neffi | because the language uses all caps |
| 23:40.25 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean |
| 23:40.29 | Gnarfoz | your bot certainly does |
| 23:40.34 | Neffi | LUA is not Lua |
| 23:40.36 | Gnarfoz | the language is still not called LUA |
| 23:40.45 | Stanzilla | there is one called LUA |
| 23:40.46 | Semlar | LUA NEFFI |
| 23:40.46 | Neffi | LUA is a fork of Lua which uses all caps |
| 23:40.49 | Stanzilla | that is the joke |
| 23:41.06 | Outrider | #TIL |
| 23:41.13 | Gnarfoz | #SMH |
| 23:41.31 | Neffi | forks Semlar to create SEMLAR. |
| 23:41.34 | Semlar | neffi.. |
| 23:41.47 | Semlar | amazon just gave me a refund for something i ordered a year and a half ago |
| 23:41.52 | Neffi | wow |
| 23:41.58 | Semlar | i didn't initiate a refund |
| 23:42.08 | Neffi | hey Semlar should I ditch this crummy distro and use Debian instead? |
| 23:42.12 | Semlar | should i like.. say something to someone about this or something |
| 23:42.21 | Neffi | umm... |
| 23:42.23 | Outrider | Neffi: Inb4, yes |
| 23:42.26 | Neffi | how much money are we talking? |
| 23:42.29 | Outrider | Debian is great |
| 23:42.30 | Semlar | $18 |
| 23:42.31 | Outrider | and I love it |
| 23:42.46 | Neffi | meh |
| 23:42.52 | Semlar | that's what i wanted to hear |
| 23:42.58 | Outrider | have a free Vagrant Distro Neffi https://github.com/The-Outrider/DebianVM |
| 23:43.41 | Neffi | it's not enough money to be worth the hassle if they ask for it back |
| 23:43.50 | Neffi | but it's also not enough money for them to probably ask for it back |
| 23:44.31 | Semlar | i'm sure it'll sort itself out |
| 23:55.40 | Amarande | Once I had to have my old webhost take back over $1000 from me because they gave it to me in error |
