| 00:04.03 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: im on linux using mplayer2 (cant get over having a good gui so i havent switched to mpv yet) |
| 00:04.17 | Mr_Rabies | good luck! |
| 00:04.47 | Mr_Rabies | i genuinely know zero about 10-bit video playback on linux so i hope you know something about it :p |
| 00:05.32 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: it works fine except for hardware accelerated i think |
| 00:06.06 | Mr_Rabies | well, there's no hardware acceleration with 10-bit yet as far as i know so you're good there |
| 00:07.09 | Arrowmaster | when i was on my nvidia system with hw 8bit it couldnt flip between acc and noacc well so i had to disable all hw acc |
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| 00:57.00 | Primer | man, wow's been really laggy in wine lately |
| 00:57.18 | Primer | I've had to turn off sound, because it just sucks |
| 00:57.24 | Primer | but I have a feeling that's pulse |
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| 01:01.01 | kd3 | no problems on f20+xfce+pulse here |
| 01:03.26 | Mr_Rabies | no problems in windows :v |
| 01:09.41 | Primer | Esamynn|Away: astrolabe redirects to a 404 page |
| 01:09.49 | Primer | astrolabe svn, that is |
| 01:10.05 | Primer | I don't have windows at work |
| 01:10.26 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/79/318/mission-complete.jpg |
| 01:11.49 | Cidan | I NEED THAT |
| 01:12.55 | Primer | nice |
| 01:13.47 | kullervo | foxlit: what's that |
| 01:16.23 | foxlit | kullervo: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan |
| 01:16.40 | Amarande | sooo ... this may be the expansion where dungeons and raids basically become obsolete? LOL |
| 01:17.15 | Amarande | At least here I'm starting to get that atmosphere |
| 01:17.25 | Amarande | "Dungeons? Raids? What's that? I want to play with the Garrisons :D" |
| 01:18.13 | znf | Anyone has any idea why the hell when instance servers crash, some addons lose their settings? |
| 01:18.40 | kullervo | znf: because when they crash you won't call the var save hook |
| 01:19.08 | Amarande | yeah, what kullervo says ... apparently, if you don't make a clean logout, you don't save variables |
| 01:19.21 | znf | so why are my previously saved variables cleared? |
| 01:19.24 | Amarande | probably should be reported as a bug, though I get the sinking feeling it's WAI |
| 01:19.50 | znf | foxlit, so, one-click-to-complete? |
| 01:20.27 | znf | foxlit, if so, can I disable that? (a lot of people don't seem to like having 1-click-to-complete) |
| 01:21.00 | foxlit | hold alt when clicking the button. |
| 01:22.37 | znf | well, you just made my addon obsolete :D |
| 01:23.36 | foxlit | it also kind of shows a summary of the stuff it looted/the follower xp gained, but every time I tried to take a screenshot of that things went horribly, horribly wrong. |
| 01:23.49 | znf | screencapture ^^ |
| 01:24.11 | foxlit | maybe the next time around. |
| 01:24.15 | znf | I used ShareX to do a giffy thingie |
| 01:24.18 | Gnarfoz | Fraps :D |
| 01:25.24 | Primer | I wonder if I should just nuke my ~/.wineprefix and start over |
| 01:25.31 | Mr_Rabies | what does it take to start doing raids with my followers? |
| 01:25.37 | Mr_Rabies | or are they just rare missions? |
| 01:26.07 | Primer | all my sounds are doubled up |
| 01:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | oh, 10 followers to 100, i really should google more |
| 01:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 01:26.12 | Amarande | Primer: that is one of wine's great beauties :) |
| 01:26.29 | Amarande | the pure windows user, in a similar screwed up situation, gets to reinstall windows or do a tedious system restore |
| 01:26.53 | Amarande | the linux user with wine just deletes the wineprefix folder and starts a new one and only has to reinstall whatever application/s were running in that prefix |
| 01:27.06 | Amarande | pity wine isn't good enough to get rid of windows altogether yet :( |
| 01:28.02 | Amarande | wait, just how many followers are there ... heh |
| 01:28.23 | Mr_Rabies | a LOT |
| 01:28.33 | Amarande | WoD: The Expansion Where Nobody Raided Because Everyone Was Busy Playing With The Garrison :D |
| 01:28.39 | znf | Wait a second. |
| 01:28.46 | znf | foxlit has 1.2k resources! |
| 01:28.49 | Primer | yup, sound still fucked |
| 01:29.12 | Amarande | Primer: you don't have some horribly linux-lousy sound device, do you? :( |
| 01:29.20 | Amarande | you know, crap like Realtek ALC1150 |
| 01:29.27 | Amarande | (may it burn forever) |
| 01:30.56 | Primer | no, in fact I'm using an old emu10k1 |
| 01:31.02 | Primer | SB audigy 2 |
| 01:31.16 | Primer | Which I bought specifically for use on Linux...many eons ago |
| 01:31.28 | Primer | Since it implements hardware multiplexing |
| 01:31.45 | Primer | The only reason I have pulse on this computer is because of fucking skype, which I need for work |
| 01:32.02 | Primer | because in their INFINITE WISDOM, they removed support for ALSA |
| 01:32.55 | Primer | ok, bye bue pulse (again) |
| 01:37.45 | Primer | and sounds is magically fixed |
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| 02:11.36 | Ivnedar | so, are there flexible garrison raids? |
| 02:12.00 | kd3 | designed for parties of 3 |
| 02:12.03 | Ivnedar | where you can send variable numbers of people and the rewards are scaled, and if you fail one, it increases the base success rate for each future attempt? :) |
| 02:12.18 | kd3 | you may be able to squeak by alone, but you won't get a good score |
| 02:14.22 | Ivnedar | or a looking for garrison raid |
| 02:14.41 | Ivnedar | you submit one follower to the queue and it matches them up with other random followers and they keep attempting until you log out |
| 02:15.52 | Dagmar | Primer: I bought six of those SBLive! cards just because of the emu10k1 on them |
| 02:16.08 | kd3 | ooh, here comes the announcement. let's see if ferguson's going to burn |
| 02:17.30 | Dagmar | I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for tanks. |
| 02:21.00 | znf | Does anyone know if you can use the Jokers now? (for darkmoon card) |
| 02:23.57 | kd3 | this much explanation... he's not getting charged |
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| 02:35.44 | Amarande | Primer: wouldn't be surprised if that's a deliberate attempt to upend Linux, heh |
| 02:35.49 | Amarande | keep in mind who owns skype :P |
| 02:36.18 | Amarande | I'm sure there's a standard policy of "frustrate Linux, but not *too* much lest we get in trouble again" :) |
| 02:37.33 | Amarande | actually come to think of it MS are getting to be pretty genius about that |
| 02:37.58 | Amarande | they throw Linux just enough of a bone to make it a halfway reasonable choice at least at first, but just little enough that enough people get frustrated with it that long term they stay with Windows |
| 02:40.19 | Primer | Amarande: Linux doesn't compete on the desktop |
| 02:40.39 | Primer | If anything, MS is worried about the server market where Linux is concerned |
| 02:41.07 | Amarande | well, yeah, there's really not any good reason to use windows as a server at all, unless you need active directory or exchange |
| 02:41.36 | Amarande | (which of course means MS will go all out at all times to ensure that Active Directory and Exchange are promoted as much as humanly possible, I suppose) |
| 02:41.39 | Dagmar | That's why they're so into giving out certs and freebies like candy |
| 02:41.45 | Dagmar | Middle managers LOVE freebies and easy certifications |
| 02:43.11 | Amarande | not to mention skill sets that can be narrowed down into small buzzword descriptions (like, yeah, certs heh) |
| 02:44.20 | Amarande | which the linux community doesn't really seem to orient itself around anywhere near as much as the windows folks do |
| 02:44.36 | kd3 | what linux certs are there outside of rhce? |
| 02:44.49 | Dagmar | Linux+ (LOL) |
| 02:45.13 | Primer | certs don't mean shit |
| 02:45.30 | Primer | I've worked with "certified" people that couldn't figure out the most basic of things |
| 02:45.48 | Amarande | but then that's the thing, open source learning at least seems much more project oriented |
| 02:45.58 | Amarande | "hmm, I need to shot web to do this project, how do I shot web? ah, here we go." |
| 02:46.40 | Amarande | corporate learning tends to be oriented around fixed skill packages (so that managers can concentrate on being managers and not actually have to understand the details, I presume) |
| 02:47.14 | Dagmar | Actually, it's a way to show upper management that the people they keep around actually do know how to do their jobs... |
| 02:47.26 | Dagmar | ...despite repeated failures to perform, and the massive amount of money spent on consultants. |
| 02:47.32 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, that too, a lot of corporate crap seems to be purely for show |
| 02:47.43 | Amarande | like ... to name perhaps the most common and yet one of the most ridiculously useless of them ... |
| 02:47.50 | Amarande | the good old fashioned traditional necktie :P |
| 02:47.55 | Dagmar | I'm more of a "I WILL MAKE IT FUCKING WORK OR DIE TRYING" type, so I'm pretty much 100% incompatible with middle-management |
| 02:48.09 | Amarande | like, what good is it? yet, for some reason, wearing and tying one properly is considered an Essential Corporate Skill in many fields |
| 02:49.00 | Amarande | I'm still not even quite sure what purpose ties originally served ... I presume they must have originally been invented to have SOME function, since back in olden times when you focused on necessities, you didn't really *do* irrelevant stuff |
| 02:50.31 | Amarande | Or the college degrees that many companies seem to demand even though it's not clear that you really need anything near a college degree to have learned the skills to do the actual job |
| 02:50.32 | xyphoid_ | as we know fashion was only invented in 1974 |
| 02:50.42 | xyphoid_ | before then we wore rocks |
| 02:51.10 | Amarande | xyphoid_: fashion's been around for a while, but yeah, before modern times, most stuff was invented to have a purpose, because you didn't really have spare resources to be spending on stuff that didn't |
| 02:51.17 | Amarande | and ties have been around for quite many centuries |
| 02:57.57 | Dagmar | ...but it took hipsters to fuck them up properly. |
| 02:59.55 | znf | foxlit, can we get sort by mission time? :) |
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| 03:29.45 | Xuerian | foxlit: I don't have any requests. I just want to thank you. 0.4 is awesome, WarVille is so much nicer. Also oPie, still using the shit out of that. |
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| 03:53.16 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 03:53.34 | Mr_Rabies | trying to get some followers ready for raiding, this is tough |
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| 03:58.02 | Amarande | Xuerian: heh, World of Warville |
| 03:58.05 | Amarande | that describes WoD well :) |
| 03:58.57 | Amarande | probably be good for expansion longevity though. Blizz shouldn't have to roll out the content patches so fast this time, hell, like I jibed before it'll probably be a while before most people manage to tear themselves away from the garrisons to do this tier :) |
| 04:02.24 | znf | Mr_Rabies, salvage yard helps alot |
| 04:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 04:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | running one, it's my lifeline |
| 04:03.28 | Mr_Rabies | what's the ilvl requirement for followers to raid? 3 followers above 645? |
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| 04:10.44 | Thunder_Child | Interesting. Currently I get 1900xp for a true iron deposit but 90xp for a blackrock deposit. |
| 04:10.49 | Thunder_Child | Seems odd. |
| 04:10.58 | Dagmar | It's been that way for awhile now |
| 04:11.19 | Dagmar | True Iron deposits were apparently meant to be another tier up from Blackrock Deposits |
| 04:11.44 | Thunder_Child | They have the same level as far as I can tell. |
| 04:11.56 | Dagmar | I suspect they just didn't get back around to making a fundamental differnece between 'em, because i don't see a whole lot of emphasis of one over the other in any given zone |
| 04:13.28 | Thunder_Child | I wouldn't know pre wod since I stopped playing a ways back. |
| 04:16.16 | tz | fuck yeah, 8 missions requiring magic debuff, 1 follower with that counter |
| 04:17.43 | znf | so |
| 04:17.54 | znf | has anyone figured out the differences here? http://i.imgur.com/efSSt62.png |
| 04:18.00 | znf | I have the LM on my priest |
| 04:18.09 | znf | but I don't think I see any benefit |
| 04:19.09 | Fisker | You get a follower |
| 04:19.24 | znf | read the descritpion |
| 04:19.51 | znf | (...) will provide daily materials and reduce the cost of other garrison buildings and specializations. |
| 04:20.44 | Fisker | I didn't think they could provide such bonuses |
| 04:20.50 | Simca | they don't |
| 04:21.19 | Simca | blizzard should have removed that text |
| 04:21.21 | Fisker | Let's sue |
| 04:21.33 | Simca | the only bonus you get from those structures atm is the ability |
| 04:21.45 | Simca | and since the shredder lets you fly and reach otherwise unreachable places... |
| 04:21.48 | Simca | shredder. |
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| 04:22.11 | Fisker | Also follower |
| 04:22.28 | Fisker | Costs 10k to reroll :( |
| 04:22.32 | Arrowmaster | so you are saying a video game was rushed through QA to meet a release deadline and has some bugs, you dont say |
| 04:22.44 | Fisker | Stupid blizzard |
| 04:23.11 | znf | the cost is too high :-/ |
| 04:23.50 | Simca | agreed, it is totally pointless |
| 04:24.37 | Amarande | T_C: archaeology is always the sweet spot for rapid leveling up, though |
| 04:24.55 | Amarande | you get absolutely insane amounts of xp from just one dig site. makes the regular gathering stuff seem like pocket change. |
| 04:25.06 | Simca | Arrowmaster: interesting theory. you can probably test that theory by typing /run CreateFrame("PlayerModel"):SetDisplayInfo(17116) |
| 04:25.24 | Arrowmaster | i could not |
| 04:25.34 | Simca | hahahaha |
| 04:25.38 | Amarande | Simca: WoW has a desperate need for removing gold from the economy |
| 04:25.54 | Simca | yes i understand but that way is stupid |
| 04:25.54 | Amarande | remember the days when getting something like an expensive epic mount or even epic flying felt special? |
| 04:26.03 | Amarande | now there's so much gold around that they're like buying a loaf of bread |
| 04:26.11 | Mr_Rabies | i do think that the garrison plans thing is kinda dumb |
| 04:26.13 | Amarande | and to be 'expensive' a mount has to be what was that yak 120k? |
| 04:26.16 | Kesava | guys i found a hole in the world. |
| 04:26.50 | Kesava | but it's in tanaan and only reachable while in ghost/cheetah/cat form |
| 04:26.51 | Kesava | so meh |
| 04:27.15 | Amarande | Simca: okay, how else do you presume to remove gold from the game in a way that's effective and players will want to do as a matter of fun rather than an onerous obligation? |
| 04:27.39 | Simca | more yaks |
| 04:27.43 | Amarande | the problem with most gold removal methods is they are not viable because newer players to the game that *haven't* accumulated ridic amounts of gold get screwed |
| 04:27.57 | xyphoid_ | yaks are great |
| 04:28.03 | Simca | any way other than this; the outpost buildings are binary and balanced in such a way that it is easy to make the 'wrong' choice |
| 04:28.09 | Amarande | goes all the way back to pen and paper ... apparently Living City was one of the first incidences of such a grave issue |
| 04:28.17 | Mr_Rabies | gold removal methods like that really should stick to luxury items |
| 04:28.22 | Arrowmaster | a yak yak here and a yak yak there |
| 04:28.29 | Mr_Rabies | the garrison is really required for basic gameplay in WoD |
| 04:28.40 | Simca | picked champions in gorgrond? lol. picked demolisher in nagrand? the perma-mount is the best thing ever |
| 04:28.44 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: except with account wide mounts and pets, there aren't many options for meaningful luxury items |
| 04:28.49 | xyphoid_ | i want a gronn two-seater with a yak in one seat and a mammoth in the other |
| 04:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | i think there are |
| 04:28.57 | znf | bah, how do I check if foxlit's addon is loaded? |
| 04:29.08 | Mr_Rabies | 20k here, 20k there, there's plenty of room to take stuff out of the economy |
| 04:29.13 | znf | so I can disable mine when his is loaded |
| 04:29.20 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.26 | Simca | oh |
| 04:29.43 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: and are also things that are optional enough that newer players or rerolls aren't utterly boned? |
| 04:29.52 | xyphoid_ | everything in the game is optional |
| 04:29.55 | Simca | watch ADDON_LOADED for it and disable yours if you see his OR if you see your own, run a check for his, and find it |
| 04:30.16 | Amarande | xyphoid_: yeah, that's kind of true |
| 04:30.20 | Simca | that way you cover the case where yours loads first and the case where his loads first |
| 04:30.40 | Amarande | the only things I can think of that aren't really were the various regional flying licences, and basic flying in BC |
| 04:31.03 | Amarande | since in basically every expansion that's had flying, there's been a rather large amount of content that you absolutely can't reach without flight |
| 04:31.57 | Simca | thorim's throne in storm peaks is one of the few things that you absolutely can't reach without flight |
| 04:32.21 | Simca | for most things, there are various item-based solutions |
| 04:33.27 | Amarande | Simca: the various level 70 ledges in Outland, most if not all of Icecrown zone |
| 04:33.37 | Amarande | various dailies in Pandaria where you have to go to ledges that can't be climbed to on foot |
| 04:34.02 | Amarande | unless you mean to get everywhere with rocket boots and parachute manipulation :) |
| 04:34.04 | Simca | those pandaria ledges in jade forest are high enough, true |
| 04:34.27 | Simca | rocket boots/cinderfall's item only go so high up |
| 04:34.59 | xyphoid_ | if you're a new player being gated out of stuff you can't afford is not exactly a huge problem - you have a huge amount of non-gated content |
| 04:35.02 | znf | I want my flying mount |
| 04:35.16 | znf | to fly |
| 04:35.28 | kd3 | great, you can, everywhere it could fly before |
| 04:37.31 | znf | I want to fly in this new shiny place! |
| 04:40.07 | Kesava | nope |
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| 04:40.16 | Kesava | time travel broke it's wings |
| 04:44.09 | Amarande | yeah, I read somewhere that flight won't be available till at least 6.1 |
| 04:45.13 | Amarande | hopefully it will cost a colossal amount of gold |
| 04:45.55 | Xuerian | Meh, at risk of igniting a hot-button topic, I miss my flying mounts but it really does seem to add to the world (and world pvp if you're on a pvp server) to not have it |
| 04:46.01 | Amarande | seeing that a) Draenor was designed around not needing to fly, b) it will be an effective goldsink for the hardcore players for whom being able to get around rapidly will be considered a must, c) a huge cost will put a substantial damper on botting |
| 04:46.15 | Kesava | flying costing loads of gold would be stupid and unfair |
| 04:46.24 | Kesava | that is not the right way to gate content |
| 04:46.27 | Kesava | or the right content to gate |
| 04:46.34 | Amarande | Kesava: the point is there's nothing that *is* gated by flight |
| 04:46.57 | Amarande | therefore, flying will strictly be a luxury - but it'll be one that hardcore players will consider essential for efficiency |
| 04:46.59 | znf | Simca, do you have that list with all bonus tertiary anymore? |
| 04:47.02 | Amarande | so they'll all feel obligated to buy it |
| 04:47.21 | znf | Xuerian, I'm on a PvP server. |
| 04:47.23 | Amarande | and if it's expensive enough, it'll be prohibitive for botters to keep buying it on every farm drone |
| 04:47.24 | znf | It's PvP by tag, that's it |
| 04:47.37 | znf | realmpop reports 220k horde vs ~20k alliance |
| 04:47.39 | Amarande | keeping the botters ground bound will put them basically out of biz |
| 04:47.55 | Neffi | Xuerian: I agree with your sentiments. What's done is done, and WoW has flying mounts. But looking in retrospect, I think the next MMO should never add them |
| 04:48.10 | znf | Amarande, you think that will stop the bots? heh |
| 04:48.10 | Amarande | if it hasn't already, since I'm laughing thinking about miner bots trying to grab ore nodes and always getting in a tangle with nearby mobs while some legitimate human player goes and takes the ore and the bot is left with nothing :) |
| 04:48.34 | znf | You really have no idea how advanced are bots these days :D |
| 04:48.36 | Xuerian | znf: There's no good solution for that, but that's also not really connected to this issue. It's got a huge impact on more competitive pvp servers |
| 04:48.36 | Amarande | which I suspect is likely, because I've encountered miner bots before, and let's put it this way, they're not very bright at all |
| 04:48.49 | Simca | mining bots generally hack |
| 04:48.56 | Amarande | znf: I have some idea how (un)smart bots are |
| 04:48.58 | Simca | and are hundreds of yards underground when they mine |
| 04:49.08 | znf | Amarande, you have an idea how old-gen bots are |
| 04:49.11 | Simca | and they move at 1000%+ speed |
| 04:49.16 | Amarande | I encountered some when I was in Sholazar Basin on my warlock mining ore back in Wrath while waiting for a soul-crushingly long queue |
| 04:49.17 | Xuerian | Neffi: I'd love it if they added them back as limited flight/glider mounts. There is definitely no easy way to limit or remove them without angering tons of people and throwing away tons of work |
| 04:49.32 | znf | yeah, like I said, old-gen |
| 04:49.33 | Amarande | (I think it was something like regular HoR as DPS, because there was a specific piece of gear I was after that only dropped on reg) |
| 04:49.57 | Neffi | Simca: if that were the case it would be trivial to autoban them all |
| 04:50.11 | Kesava | it used to be |
| 04:50.14 | Kesava | it is not anymore |
| 04:50.16 | Amarande | yeah, you shouldn't be underground at all unless you bug out |
| 04:50.25 | Simca | Neffi: so many things should be trivial |
| 04:50.31 | Amarande | and you shouldn't be moving at 1000%+ speed unless maybe you're at terminal velocity because you fell through the world |
| 04:50.31 | Simca | and look how many of them go undone |
| 04:51.00 | Neffi | bugging out underground happens. more often than you'd think. it's the speed thing that's easy to see |
| 04:51.17 | Amarande | Which is what we call 'fun' in quotation marks ... I've read tales of it happening to people, and sometimes it takes HOURS to regain function LOL |
| 04:51.22 | Neffi | hackers can get clever by doing it in short bursts, but they still end up setting a trend. ought to be catchable |
| 04:51.43 | Simca | 'ought to be' is the operative phrase unfortunately |
| 04:51.50 | Neffi | aye, true |
| 04:51.54 | Amarande | hm, what happened to one dude ... he fell out the world around Stratholme, on a trajectory ever so slightly southward |
| 04:52.01 | Amarande | that must have been painful, and not in a good way |
| 04:52.07 | Mr_Rabies | let a hamster's kinect-read movements control the speed of your speedhacks, ezpz |
| 04:52.12 | Mr_Rabies | :D |
| 04:52.17 | znf | I need a lvl10 barrack :-( |
| 04:52.42 | Neffi | Amarande: Happened to me in the opposite direction. Fell in Tanaris with a northward trajectory. Wanted to see how far I went. Reached EPL back in vanilla. Took forever |
| 04:52.55 | Neffi | err, stv* |
| 04:53.04 | Amarande | Neffi: wait, you managed to fall across to the other continent? oh heh |
| 04:53.20 | Neffi | yeah, for a sec I thought ZG was in tanaris. I'm kinda tired |
| 04:53.37 | Amarande | and the sucky thing is you have no way of getting out of it (all forms of port have a cast time, so "can't do that while moving") |
| 04:53.39 | Neffi | I was wall climbing into the uninstanced ZG that used to be inaccessible and fell through somewhere |
| 04:54.04 | Kesava | .. was this before they added floors or something |
| 04:54.04 | Amarande | maybe if you were a mage of the right spec (does PoM work with Teleport?) |
| 04:54.42 | Neffi | nowadays I think the autounstuck button works |
| 04:55.02 | Amarande | Kesava: there's the occasional spot, especially before Cataclysm, where you can accidentally drop through the landscape walkmeshes |
| 04:55.06 | Amarande | aka, "falling through the world" |
| 04:55.14 | Kesava | well i know that |
| 04:55.16 | Neffi | plus I'm like 20-30% sure you'll die automatically if you go too low on the Z axis now -- might have imagined that, but I vaguely recall it happening in the last 2 years |
| 04:55.22 | Kesava | but you can only fall so far before it kills you |
| 04:55.23 | Kesava | yes |
| 04:55.33 | Amarande | Kesava: ah, there's an absolute z-minimum now? |
| 04:55.33 | Neffi | wasn't the case way back in vanilla, Kesava |
| 04:55.54 | Amarande | yeah back in the day that wasn't the case (vanilla maybe, or maybe it was all the way through wrath? not sure) |
| 04:56.06 | Amarande | you pretty much kept falling till you reached somewhere with water, and then you died |
| 04:56.15 | Amarande | god help you if it was EPL and you were moving at a tiny trickle southward |
| 04:56.22 | Neffi | ah! right, that's why I stopped. I hit invisible water north of EPL |
| 04:56.45 | Amarande | oh, and apparently at one point you could accidentally fail to trip the instance portal when entering Stratholme |
| 04:56.58 | Amarande | and since you weren't meant to get into that little bit without going through the portal |
| 04:57.17 | Amarande | there was no walkmeshed floor more than a very short ways through ... so AUTOMATIC fall through the world |
| 04:58.00 | Neffi | Amarande: http://youtu.be/fiL64JbQOHE ;) |
| 04:58.01 | Amarande | I wonder if hardware has an effect on it, it seems to be far rarer nowadays if at all |
| 04:58.15 | Xuerian | There was also the tunnel on the north side of ironforge |
| 04:58.30 | Kesava | similar topic: currently if you're a bit laggy, enter naxx, move up the stairs as soon as you zone it, it'll warp you back to just under the stairs and you'll fall through naxx into the old epl |
| 04:58.43 | Kesava | that's fun. |
| 04:58.56 | Amarande | which is likely to be the case with better hardware, since presumably you can afford to calculate collision more frequently and thus there's less chance to overshoot |
| 04:59.11 | Amarande | come to think of it, do people fall through much in, say, Skyrim? |
| 04:59.28 | Amarande | don't think I've heard much about it happening there, whereas it happened way more often in Morrowind |
| 04:59.37 | znf | ...why can't we have Rexxar as a follower?! |
| 04:59.59 | Neffi | which tunnel? |
| 05:00.45 | Neffi | Amarande: There's several places where you can intentionally glitch through, but after tons of exploration I've only found one unfixed area where you can fall through |
| 05:00.59 | Neffi | and there's terrain underneath, so you don't fall forever |
| 05:01.36 | Amarande | heh, and then of course there were the 40 billion attempts by Blizzard to keep people from going to Mt Hyjal before Cataclysm |
| 05:01.58 | Amarande | I'm not sure why they treated that area like it was Area 51 or some such, either ... from what I hear there wasn't really much of anything there to see, other than people just trying to go for its own sake |
| 05:02.12 | Xuerian | It was also super fun to slow fall out over darkshore |
| 05:02.19 | Xuerian | And it didn't look bad either |
| 05:02.38 | Neffi | maybe it added to the mystique |
| 05:02.43 | Amarande | By the time I had a chance to give it a try, I noticed there was a green swirly portal in the way even if you did manage to get through all the rocks |
| 05:02.51 | Kesava | it had the big crater in it, same as was initially in cataclysm. but they reworked it so it's basically all different now. |
| 05:02.56 | Amarande | presumably it took you to the raid instance just like the regular hyjal raid portal *shrug* |
| 05:03.06 | Neffi | places like old IF, Hyjal and the dancing troll village feel a bit less awesome now that they're legitimate |
| 05:03.18 | Xuerian | old if is legit now? o_O |
| 05:03.23 | Neffi | yeah |
| 05:03.24 | Amarande | but yeah, I never quite understood why Blizzard meted out account discipline to people for doing things like that |
| 05:03.28 | Xuerian | wut |
| 05:03.31 | Neffi | the door you used to have to get through, is now open |
| 05:03.34 | Neffi | just walk down there |
| 05:03.42 | Neffi | also the airport! |
| 05:03.43 | Kesava | it's where muradin got frozed |
| 05:03.53 | Amarande | it's not like you got any kind of ingame advantage to doing it |
| 05:03.54 | Neffi | IF airport was one of my favorite discoveries |
| 05:04.16 | Amarande | it seemed more like they were telling people like a grouchy D&D DM "STAY ON THE EFFING RAILS OR ELSE" |
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| 05:05.15 | Neffi | Amarande: well they didn't want it to be outright OK, so it was against the rules. They probably didnt intend severe consequences, but a GM sees you there and decides that's what he should do..? |
| 05:05.23 | Neffi | It's not like people were banned left and right for it |
| 05:05.34 | Xuerian | airport was nice, gilneas was neat to get in to |
| 05:05.45 | Neffi | I never managed to get into Gilneas :( |
| 05:06.07 | Xuerian | chaining far sight op now though |
| 05:06.34 | Neffi | can you still chain eagle eye? |
| 05:06.40 | Xuerian | Unless they "fixed" that for my shaman now, too >:| |
| 05:06.45 | Kesava | yes and yes |
| 05:06.58 | Kesava | you can still get into the memorial/whatever room in org etc |
| 05:07.01 | Neffi | well it's kinda pointless since I can fly anywhere |
| 05:07.10 | Kesava | glitching: not necessary |
| 05:09.55 | Amarande | yeah, it just feels a little odd sometimes. like on the one hand. "here's the world. we want you to explore and experience it." *later on* "NO! WE DON'T WANT YOU TO EXPLORE HERE! STICK TO THE CONTENT YOU'RE POINTED TO!" |
| 05:10.31 | Amarande | though it's not quite as convoluted in that way as SW:TOR, heh |
| 05:10.44 | Xuerian | Just about the only reasonable argument is people posting images or video of getting to cool spots, and non-explorers just seeing unfinished shitty looking areas or something |
| 05:10.48 | Neffi | I honestly never felt like that with WoW |
| 05:10.59 | Amarande | ahhh, datacrons. always that feeling of progress and fear at the same time. |
| 05:11.34 | Amarande | with how convoluted some of the parkour and climbs to get to some of them were ... "hmm, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to go, right?" "hmm ... am I sure this is where I'm supposed to go? am I sure I didn't exploit myself into somewhere I'm not meant to be?" |
| 05:12.30 | Amarande | yeah, I would walk around a lot of weird places but I never tried anything precision enough that it would get me anywhere that would have been relevant |
| 05:12.37 | Amarande | and some of the pre-cata world stopped your exploration run eventually anyway |
| 05:12.56 | Amarande | like the row of inescapable holes at the south end of Kalimdor that you were bound to stumble into eventually while trying to completely wander round the edge :) |
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| 05:33.06 | fewyn | yessssssssss |
| 05:33.07 | fewyn | [23:32:56] [Fewyn] has earned the achievement [Salvaging Pays Off]! |
| 05:36.32 | bluspacecow | grats! |
| 05:37.37 | Amarande | what's that one for? |
| 05:37.47 | kd3 | tier 3 salvage yard |
| 05:50.12 | Simca | GM island is the only place I remember people actually got banned left and right for getting to |
| 05:50.58 | Simca | though usually there wasn't any way to get there besides exploits with the zeppelins |
| 05:53.28 | fewyn | i may have hung up "holiday" lights in my office a little early >_> |
| 05:55.59 | Primer | Is there any addon that implements a better strategy than "spreading" or "stacking" for nameplates? |
| 05:56.04 | Primer | Because both fucking suck |
| 05:56.13 | Primer | stacking makes shit stack beyond the screen |
| 05:56.18 | Primer | and spreading still overlaps a lot |
| 05:56.25 | fewyn | i just don't use nameplates |
| 05:56.30 | fewyn | i'm probably bad tho |
| 05:57.06 | Primer | yes, that would make you bad |
| 05:58.03 | Xuerian | Primer: I'm no rocket scientist but isn't that something addons can't do, moving secure frames around? |
| 05:59.05 | fewyn | i wish track timber wouldn't show timber i can't harvest |
| 06:01.43 | znf | fewyn, *nod* |
| 06:02.17 | znf | Primer, you can't |
| 06:02.21 | znf | unlest you're The NamePlateMaster |
| 06:02.25 | Primer | Tell that to Semlar |
| 06:02.31 | bluspacecow | fewyn : indeed. |
| 06:02.44 | Semlar | do what now |
| 06:02.47 | fewyn | i keep getting excited |
| 06:03.43 | fewyn | i'm like ooo lumber |
| 06:03.47 | fewyn | then boo i can't harvest |
| 06:04.02 | bluspacecow | iâve learnt to check the minimap myself |
| 06:04.08 | fewyn | i do that too |
| 06:04.16 | fewyn | but i get the sads when it's not small timber |
| 06:04.18 | bluspacecow | small timber = I can has happiness (= |
| 06:04.28 | bluspacecow | anything above = :( |
| 06:04.34 | fewyn | i'll upgrade it to 2 in about 37% |
| 06:04.45 | fewyn | so i can do timber which will make it slightly better |
| 06:05.11 | fewyn | at least gathermate now tracks timber |
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| 06:19.43 | nebula169 | foxlit: could you add an indicator for if the followered leveled? little up yellow arrow top-left of the bar or such |
| 06:21.19 | nebula169 | followered, derp |
| 06:28.59 | Simca | that does sound like a good idea |
| 06:29.07 | Simca | also, wanted to say, MasterPlan is amazing, gj. |
| 06:30.14 | fewyn | yay level 3 profession buildings unlocked |
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| 07:41.28 | Ivnedar | hrrm, wife's master plan just showed 3 missions completed, no complete button, no rewards gained, reopening it doesn't show them again |
| 07:41.38 | Ivnedar | seems to happen if a mission completes while you have the completion list up? |
| 07:49.35 | Ivnedar | She managed to do it twice, I'm intentionally doing it and can't repro ... |
| 08:06.11 | foxlit | nebula169: currently, the level text turns green for levelled followers. |
| 08:07.38 | nebula169 | ah, hadn't noticed that |
| 08:08.05 | foxlit | (which is too subtle -- showing some sort of arrow would make sense, and I should probably animate the xp bar) |
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| 08:14.35 | User1202 | Hello there :) |
| 08:16.13 | User1202 | I seem to have encountered a problem with scrollframes. The scroll frame is set to a height i have not defined and no matter how i try, i cannot change the height, which results in overscrolling, and if my content is long, the scrollframe is too small (in height) |
| 08:17.02 | User1202 | http://pastebin.com/vMGpEtNW |
| 08:18.03 | User1202 | Note: The scrollframes child (content) is set to the height 10,000, yet, it shows as approx ~175 |
| 08:23.54 | nebula169 | User1202: what are you using to update the content? |
| 08:24.36 | User1202 | I populate the content after the frames are created, all the data is generated from large arrays |
| 08:24.59 | nebula169 | no, i mean actually update the scroll |
| 08:25.44 | User1202 | Isn't that only for faux scroll ? |
| 08:26.35 | nebula169 | nah, hybrid, too, they both size the scroll child |
| 08:27.08 | nebula169 | hybrids based on a display height, faux by item size * num displayed |
| 08:27.32 | znf | foxlit, any chance of modifying the active mission list to also contain followers that are on it and chance of success? |
| 08:28.06 | foxlit | what'll probably happen is that it'll move to a button per-mission. |
| 08:28.08 | User1202 | So i need to trigger an update width that sets the height of the content frame ? (scrollchild) |
| 08:28.09 | nebula169 | User1202: why i was asking for how you were calling the update :p probably could tweak the args |
| 08:28.44 | foxlit | which depending on how the API works could show success probability in text, and followers in a tooltip (can't do much with 12px of vertical space per mission). |
| 08:29.49 | User1202 | @nebula169: http://pastebin.com/EbqcLdsf |
| 08:30.14 | User1202 | that is about what i have to populate the content |
| 08:30.33 | User1202 | How would you suggest i update the frame ? |
| 08:31.08 | nebula169 | that doesn't help :p i assume you use FauxScrollFrame_Update? |
| 08:31.24 | User1202 | I do not use any update at all ? |
| 08:31.47 | User1202 | I have not yet encontered such documentation :P |
| 08:32.35 | User1202 | So, how would i be able to update the scrollframe height ? |
| 08:32.47 | User1202 | scrollchild* |
| 08:33.06 | User1202 | since setting it to 10,000 at creation doesn't change anything |
| 08:33.40 | nevcairiel | what I do with my scrollframe is not set the width of the content frame, but anchor it topleft/topright to the scrollframe, its generally advicable to use anchors instead of explicit width if possible at all |
| 08:34.10 | User1202 | okay, understood |
| 08:34.20 | nevcairiel | as it looks, your content is wider than the scrollframe itself |
| 08:34.39 | nebula169 | yea, i guess i've always just used blizz templates, so haven't touched the scrollchild at all |
| 08:36.49 | User1202 | But even if i wouldnt use blizz templates, wouldn't setting the scrollchild to a specific height make it that height ? |
| 08:36.59 | User1202 | since setting it to 10,000 doesnt work |
| 08:37.37 | nebula169 | like i said, everytime you scroll and the conrent is updated, it resizes the scrollchild as needed |
| 08:38.12 | nevcairiel | nah the normal scrollframe doesnt do that |
| 08:38.19 | nebula169 | (using templates) |
| 08:38.21 | nevcairiel | dont confuse it with the faux one |
| 08:40.16 | User1202 | So how do you actually set the height of a normal scroll child ? |
| 08:41.26 | nebula169 | i'd do what nev said and anchor it to the corners of your scroll area |
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| 08:41.58 | User1202 | Even the height ? |
| 08:42.23 | User1202 | Wouldn't that make the scrolling of the scrollchild non-functional ? |
| 08:57.01 | User1202 | The scroll-child needs to have a size set to even be visible, however after setting the anchors to topright and topleft and then setting sixe (height and width) i can see content again, but the problem persists |
| 08:57.31 | User1202 | no matter what size i set my child element to, the size of it seems to be 175 |
| 08:58.59 | nevcairiel | you should not set the width if you anchor it left and right |
| 08:59.50 | User1202 | if i do not set it, conent wont be visible, scrollframe has anchors, scrollchild does not work without size set |
| 09:00.34 | nevcairiel | then something is wrong with your setup in the first place, you do not need to set a width if you anchor something left and right, since the anchors define the width, in fact you should never set an explicit width in this case as it screws with things |
| 09:01.03 | User1202 | According to the documentation i NEED to set a size of child to make it work |
| 09:01.42 | User1202 | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScrollFrame/SetScrollChild |
| 09:01.47 | User1202 | Quote: "The child must have an absolute size, set either by <AbsDimension> in XML or using both SetWidth() and SetHeight() in Lua." |
| 09:02.58 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing as "the documentation", its all unofficial since Blizzard doesn't publish documentation |
| 09:03.16 | nevcairiel | and its incorrect, if you anchor it left and r ight the frame has an absolute width defined by its parent frame |
| 09:03.16 | User1202 | Anyway, it does not work if i do not set size |
| 09:04.51 | karl_w_w | one of these missions is called gronn with the wind |
| 09:05.08 | User1202 | content:SetHeight(100) |
| 09:05.08 | User1202 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.08 | User1202 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.13 | User1202 | Does not work |
| 09:06.44 | foxlit | why can I cast Rejuvenate from cat form? |
| 09:07.21 | sb | because draenor perk |
| 09:07.29 | User1202 | Just tried, when i am in c atform, and try and cast rejuvenation, i shapeshift into casting form again |
| 09:07.31 | nevcairiel | yeah its one of the perks |
| 09:08.34 | foxlit | and I never even noticed. I wonder if it's one of those I got while being guardian. |
| 09:08.50 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 09:08.53 | nevcairiel | guardian doesnt get it |
| 09:09.29 | foxlit | kind of a pity, since that'd make the rotation more interesting. |
| 09:10.25 | User1202 | So, anyone knows why the height of my scrollchild wont change ? even if i set it to 10,000 or 1, it seems to fixate to 175 |
| 09:11.58 | User1202 | Could it have to do with the scrollbar values ? |
| 09:12.06 | User1202 | scrollbar:SetMinMaxValues(1, 200) |
| 09:29.12 | User1202 | Anyone have any clues ? |
| 09:29.24 | User1202 | Or maybe a recommendation of a specific setup ? |
| 10:01.08 | foxlit | I like how you can't hear the fishing splash from other players. |
| 10:02.26 | nevcairiel | would be super annoying otherwise |
| 10:03.07 | foxlit | there was a place called the Dalaran Fountain. |
| 10:03.30 | foxlit | which is literally a 1x1 yard drop of achievement-rewarding water. |
| 10:03.36 | foxlit | s/drop/space/ |
| 10:03.53 | foxlit | and back then, you *could* hear everyones' splashes :P |
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| 10:20.45 | karl_w_w | there is still a place called dalaran fountain, foxlit |
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| 10:35.04 | nebula169 | in a land far far away |
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| 10:39.53 | mikma | so... an addon that remembers bags and banks of all characters? |
| 10:41.45 | karl_w_w | ark inventory |
| 10:41.53 | jleclanche | mikma: bagnon |
| 10:42.07 | karl_w_w | not long to NA maintenance, send all your dudes off on missions |
| 10:43.05 | karl_w_w | I wonder if they will do oceanic maintenance at a less of an absolutely retarded time now the servers are seperate |
| 10:43.34 | mikma | also, another requirement. it can't change the appearance of my bags :P i love the default |
| 10:43.55 | Mr_Rabies | altoholic |
| 10:44.01 | Mr_Rabies | it won't remember location, but |
| 10:44.14 | Mr_Rabies | you can search basically everything on your alts |
| 10:44.19 | karl_w_w | you can do it with ark inv but you'll need to fiddle with settings |
| 10:44.35 | karl_w_w | to disable the bag ui etc |
| 10:44.43 | mikma | locations doesn't matter, i just like to be able to see what i have in store for other chars because it's annoying to find stuff by changing chars |
| 10:44.44 | Mr_Rabies | mail, gear, bank, guild bank, void storage, reagent bank, etc |
| 10:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | altoholic sounds perfect then |
| 10:45.06 | Mr_Rabies | you mouseover an item in your inventory or in a crafting panel, etc and it shows which chars have it and how many |
| 10:45.08 | Mr_Rabies | and where |
| 10:45.20 | Mr_Rabies | like mouseover Blackrock Ore |
| 10:45.49 | mikma | yeah |
| 10:45.51 | Mr_Rabies | you'd see Raybeez 200 (100 Bags, 50 Reagent Bank, 50 Mail) |
| 10:45.59 | Mr_Rabies | in the tooltip |
| 10:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | or you can search |
| 10:46.04 | Mr_Rabies | in the altoholic pane |
| 10:46.26 | Mr_Rabies | also tracks professions, lockouts, just about everything on your alts |
| 10:46.29 | jleclanche | while we're asking for addons, does anyone know of an addon that changes the vendor UI to an alphabetized, searchable list of rows with small icon and text? |
| 10:46.38 | Mr_Rabies | it's really good, but not quite 100% for WoD yet |
| 10:46.47 | Mr_Rabies | some of the garrison stuff breaks it, but the core functions work well |
| 10:46.48 | nebula169 | jleclanche: i've always used gnomish vendor shrinker |
| 10:46.54 | Mr_Rabies | profession stuff is a bit broken by the garrison crafters |
| 10:46.59 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15351-BagSync.html |
| 10:47.10 | mikma | apparently this is for wod but.. |
| 10:47.21 | jleclanche | nebula169: i remember seeing it but it wasnt good enough for me |
| 10:47.35 | nebula169 | so picky |
| 10:47.37 | Mr_Rabies | i use altoholic but i do have a few datastore entries turned off since they throw lua errors |
| 10:47.38 | mikma | i'm picky with my addons :D i always look for persons i know (because i know the quality of their addons) |
| 10:47.40 | jleclanche | nebula169: iirc because it broke shift click |
| 10:47.49 | nebula169 | works fine for me |
| 10:47.58 | jleclanche | nebula169: like buying a stack |
| 10:48.07 | jleclanche | Un-features |
| 10:48.07 | jleclanche | No support for split-stack purchases, I'm not convinced it's needed. |
| 10:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | seriously altoholic is awesome, it's just taking a while to get updated for WoD (though supports everything in 6.0.2 more or less fine) |
| 10:48.27 | nebula169 | oh, for that you click the little arrow |
| 10:48.32 | jleclanche | nebula169: maybe ill just actually try it out. does it work with wod? |
| 10:48.43 | jleclanche | it says Supports: 5.0.5 |
| 10:48.50 | nebula169 | yea |
| 10:49.38 | jleclanche | yo tekkubby update your tocs |
| 10:50.33 | Mr_Rabies | oh hmm |
| 10:51.06 | Mr_Rabies | ah yeah okay datastore's just crazy out of date |
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| 11:26.47 | jleclanche | whats supposed to happen after brutallus (boss 2) in sunwell? |
| 11:27.14 | jleclanche | hm nvm, this is massively bugged |
| 11:29.16 | nevcairiel | last time i did it it was fine, you just have to wait a bit for the dragon to arrive |
| 11:29.51 | jleclanche | that is an understatement |
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| 12:52.31 | mikma | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/bittens-spellflash-priest#t1:changes O_o |
| 12:52.39 | mikma | " This is just updating to reflect that it won't explode on start. " |
| 12:53.14 | mikma | why would you do that? if the addon is not working with current level limit why do you even update it to "function" and release it?? |
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| 12:56.42 | HolaAtMe | Hola :D |
| 12:56.47 | HolaAtMe | Quick question |
| 12:56.58 | HolaAtMe | When resizing a frame |
| 12:57.13 | HolaAtMe | How do i keep the current content of that frame from overflowing ? |
| 12:59.12 | nevcairiel | manually and carefully |
| 12:59.23 | mikma | hah |
| 12:59.41 | Fisker | no nevcairiel |
| 12:59.47 | Fisker | manually and furiously |
| 13:00.29 | jleclanche | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAchievementCriteriaInfo is very outdated |
| 13:00.30 | jleclanche | bah |
| 13:00.35 | nevcairiel | edit it |
| 13:00.57 | rid_ | ^ |
| 13:01.02 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 13:01.09 | Fisker | hey rid_ |
| 13:01.13 | rid_ | how do?+ |
| 13:01.37 | Torhal | HolaAtMe: If it's overflowing, then the anchors need readjusting, hence the "manually and carefully" |
| 13:02.02 | Fisker | https://security.google.com/settings/security/activity <-this is pretty nice |
| 13:02.05 | Fisker | idk rid_ |
| 13:02.12 | rid_ | :( |
| 13:02.43 | Torhal | reverts the commit that granted sentience to rid_ |
| 13:03.15 | Fisker | I have a device called "Android" that synced with google the last 5 hours |
| 13:03.22 | Fisker | but I don't know what that would be |
| 13:03.37 | mikma | your tablet? your mini-pc? |
| 13:03.46 | HolaAtMe | Yeah, it already does use anchors, but the content is several other frames that has absolute positions, and when the resize event stops, it hides the overflowing frames |
| 13:03.55 | Fisker | no all other devices are accounted for mikma |
| 13:03.56 | rid_ | http://i.imgur.com/I6qT4qB.png mad ? |
| 13:04.00 | rid_ | pls don't hack me |
| 13:04.02 | Fisker | It's an extra device I don't know what is |
| 13:04.13 | HolaAtMe | But, i need the frames to be hidden as soon as they go outside parent frame |
| 13:04.14 | Fisker | ew rid_ |
| 13:04.14 | rid_ | it's me |
| 13:04.17 | Fisker | I thought we were friends |
| 13:04.28 | rid_ | teehhee |
| 13:04.33 | rid_ | workaccount |
| 13:04.34 | Fisker | "Martin's iPhone" |
| 13:04.35 | Fisker | :< |
| 13:04.38 | rid_ | workaccount |
| 13:04.44 | Fisker | no |
| 13:04.48 | rid_ | :( |
| 13:04.54 | Torhal | Damn, rid_ 0 6 lines? |
| 13:04.56 | mikma | fisker: how about trying out the google security to make that device ring for 5mins on full, just to make sure |
| 13:05.00 | Torhal | s/0 // |
| 13:05.38 | Fisker | please mikma |
| 13:05.45 | Fisker | 06 is a number too Torhal |
| 13:06.06 | Torhal | Yet 0 6 is not. |
| 13:06.07 | Torhal | It's two. |
| 13:06.24 | Fisker | could've s/ // |
| 13:06.29 | rid_ | :( |
| 13:06.31 | HolaAtMe | Anyone ? |
| 13:06.34 | mikma | 011 :P |
| 13:06.38 | rid_ | 007 |
| 13:06.42 | rid_ | agent Torhal |
| 13:07.27 | Torhal | is licensed to kill rid_ |
| 13:07.32 | rid_ | :( |
| 13:07.36 | rid_ | all the hate |
| 13:07.49 | Torhal | You spammed. It was offensive. |
| 13:07.55 | Torhal | Terrorist! |
| 13:08.14 | mikma | torhal: getting.... rid... of him? ;) |
| 13:08.21 | Torhal | Ohhhhhh myyyyy. |
| 13:08.22 | rid_ | :) |
| 13:11.55 | NuSuey | lol sold a faded photograph for 1800 gold.. wtf |
| 13:12.25 | NuSuey | I know its unobtainable..but still o.O |
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| 13:18.41 | Xandr_ | is there a way to get the camera orientation? I know there's GetPlayerFacing() to get your character's orientation |
| 13:18.58 | karl_w_w | no |
| 13:19.08 | karl_w_w | there used to be until near the end of lich king |
| 13:19.29 | nevcairiel | you cna still get it, but it doesn't update "live" anymore, so its useless for any real-time t asks |
| 13:19.31 | Ivnedar | that's when the addons were overlaying encounters with info? |
| 13:19.36 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:19.44 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 13:19.49 | Ivnedar | so you'd have "stand here" spots projected on the world |
| 13:20.04 | karl_w_w | for people who couldn't use their eyes :P |
| 13:21.25 | Ivnedar | AVR, that was it |
| 13:21.29 | Xandr | oh right, so that's what they removed to kill AVR? |
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| 13:21.53 | nevcairiel | pretty much |
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| 13:47.18 | jleclanche | So I report an ingame issue to a gm |
| 13:47.40 | jleclanche | the response is this: "Unfortunately this is a known issue which is being worked on. We sadly can't fix this right away for you. Sorry for the inconvenience so far though." |
| 13:47.50 | jleclanche | then he says this: "I hope I understood the reason behind your ticket." |
| 13:48.01 | jleclanche | ... I sure hope so too, because if he didn't, I have no way to know |
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| 14:02.22 | mitch0 | jleclanche: 99% of the population is stupid. so the safe bet is that he didn't understand it correctly |
| 14:06.16 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: how come the blizzard action bars trigger on press (rather than release) yet you can move buttons without triggering them - but not in bartender |
| 14:10.30 | nevcairiel | because blizzard cheats |
| 14:11.00 | nevcairiel | they can use the Up/Down events on the button, i can only use the click event |
| 14:14.54 | karl_w_w | so you can't move the button with on press enabled at all? |
| 14:15.18 | nevcairiel | sure can, but it also fires |
| 14:15.24 | karl_w_w | why not use a key modifier |
| 14:16.30 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, Blizzard is a cheaty-meanie-pants. Fire them. |
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| 14:50.12 | znf | wow |
| 14:53.23 | karl_w_w | 4 hours left on the humble bumdle |
| 14:53.27 | karl_w_w | bumdle indeed |
| 14:53.51 | karl_w_w | $6 for euro truck sim 2 is worth it on its own |
| 14:54.32 | karl_w_w | oh boy and the weekly bundle has beat hazard, i love that game |
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| 15:51.30 | znf | foxlit, I just had this - no error, no anything :-/ http://i.imgur.com/Qtnk6W9.png |
| 15:51.56 | znf | foxlit, and now the follower I had on the last mission is stuck in limbo :D |
| 15:53.13 | foxlit | You should be able to complete it blcosing the report, swtiching to a different tab, and then retruning to active missions |
| 15:53.32 | znf | alternatively I reloaded ui :P |
| 15:53.34 | foxlit | and/or closing the garrison missions ui |
| 15:53.43 | znf | went a bit more extreme :D |
| 15:54.17 | foxlit | I see I clip the orc. models and scale are kind of a disaster :/ |
| 16:00.23 | znf | there's an orc there?! |
| 16:00.40 | nevcairiel | do you even look at your own screenshots? |
| 16:01.03 | znf | ...I was trying to be funny |
| 16:01.13 | znf | trying :-( |
| 16:01.52 | nevcairiel | anyone else getting like barely any lvl 100 missions to do? |
| 16:02.15 | nevcairiel | my entire team is 100 now, and i get maybe 2 or 3 missions a day, cant even put everyone to work |
| 16:02.23 | znf | :-/ |
| 16:02.25 | Maldivia | considering I've had a total of 2 hours to play since release... haven't seen a single level 100 mission yet on live :) |
| 16:02.43 | znf | my lvl96 alt has shitloads of them |
| 16:03.33 | znf | nevcairiel, http://i.imgur.com/PvTxI6F.png this answers your question |
| 16:03.56 | nevcairiel | maybe you just dont do them and collect them for days! |
| 16:04.11 | znf | I don't have enough followers for them :-| |
| 16:04.29 | nevcairiel | 3 of my dudes went on a 24 hour mission yesterday, and i did like 3 other missions today so far |
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| 16:04.48 | nevcairiel | ... and i have 2 lvl 90s available right now, which i will then do tomorrow with my new inn recruit |
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| 16:12.16 | znf | So, does anyone have any idea how do missions expire? |
| 16:12.27 | znf | Do they have individual timers? Is there a specific timer for each mission? |
| 16:12.43 | nevcairiel | the rumor was 48 hours, but at least rare missions seem to stick around longer |
| 16:13.17 | nevcairiel | i didnt do my first legendary mission for quite a bit since i didnt have a working team |
| 16:14.43 | znf | Another question - did anyone actually build a Spirit Lodge? |
| 16:14.59 | nevcairiel | friend of mine has a mage tower, which should be the same |
| 16:16.12 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/nknxdwD.png now they don't even chat with you? :( |
| 16:17.08 | Ressy | Sometimes their GM tools bug, and show you as offline. |
| 16:17.30 | znf | wow |
| 16:17.34 | znf | so now they give you an answer |
| 16:17.51 | znf | telling you they're sorry for not being able to help you that fast, and if I still need help, type a code in my reply |
| 16:18.06 | Ressy | um. ouch |
| 16:21.12 | znf | ticked has been repopened |
| 16:21.14 | znf | wait 24-48 hours |
| 16:21.16 | znf | geez |
| 16:27.32 | Ressy | znf: how long was the ticket open before you got that response? |
| 16:28.09 | znf | Ressy: 2 days... |
| 16:28.19 | znf | Or, rather, 1 and half |
| 16:29.26 | Kesava | you should use live chat on the thingy website |
| 16:29.29 | Kesava | it's faster |
| 16:29.53 | znf | It's also disabled |
| 16:30.05 | znf | Or at least it was when I made the ticket |
| 16:30.07 | Kesava | oh |
| 16:30.19 | Kesava | well if you made it on the weekend yes |
| 16:36.24 | znf | woah |
| 16:36.26 | znf | my water bill lists 8cmc O.O |
| 16:36.31 | znf | and they say geeks don't shower |
| 16:36.45 | nevcairiel | whats a cmc |
| 16:36.46 | znf | erm, 8m^3 |
| 16:36.50 | znf | in a month |
| 16:37.36 | nevcairiel | 8 cubic meters in one month? |
| 16:37.40 | znf | yes |
| 16:37.47 | nevcairiel | you should get that checked, thats way much :p |
| 16:37.57 | znf | I know! But I also take long showers :-S |
| 16:37.59 | nevcairiel | i use maybe twice that a year |
| 16:38.17 | nevcairiel | (in hot water anyway) |
| 16:38.28 | znf | foxlit, thought about adding a checkbox below the completed button? "view individual completion" or something like that |
| 16:38.44 | znf | nevcairiel, oh, that's cold water for me; I have a boiler; |
| 16:39.00 | nevcairiel | i like individual completion, does the new master plan force summary completion on me now? |
| 16:39.09 | znf | yes |
| 16:39.16 | znf | well, maybe |
| 16:39.23 | znf | you can view individual if you keep ALT |
| 16:39.39 | nevcairiel | needs a switch to disable by default imho |
| 16:43.34 | znf | foxlit, also - https://gfycat.com/LastUnlawfulDolphin you can use that :P |
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| 16:49.48 | znf | foxlit, or I can provide a better one in about 1 hour, with all kinds of rewards |
| 16:54.20 | Neffi | man, the new Fractal Design R5 looks excellent |
| 16:56.46 | znf | Having to check the mine every time I go around my garrison for stray carts is kind of annoying |
| 16:56.54 | znf | (ie: not showing up on the minimap) |
| 16:56.57 | znf | also, lvl3 mine is SO huge |
| 16:57.06 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 16:57.26 | Dagmar | I'm taking the same approach to missed mine carts as I do missed vignettes. "Probably won't drop anything I want anyway" |
| 16:58.03 | znf | it's at least 1 primal spirit in each |
| 16:58.33 | Dagmar | Well, at last count I have far more of those than I can possibly use, so... still not worrying about them |
| 16:58.51 | znf | How? :P |
| 16:58.56 | znf | it's 50 primals for 1 savage blood |
| 16:58.57 | Dagmar | I just recently had to do something about the fur buildup in my bank. |
| 16:59.05 | znf | and you need 15 spirits for pretty much anything |
| 16:59.10 | Dagmar | I haven't even done half the heroics yet |
| 16:59.14 | znf | oh |
| 16:59.54 | Dagmar | ...and I've gotten one of the 640 crafted pieces made (and refurbished TO THE RIGHT STATS ON THE FIRST TRY W00T!). |
| 17:00.13 | Dagmar | As far as I can tell I'm going to wind up with a surplus of primals before all is said and done |
| 17:00.31 | znf | I have about 170 primals |
| 17:00.36 | znf | need hundreds |
| 17:00.37 | nevcairiel | i have 400 |
| 17:01.29 | Dagmar | I had about 800 fur in the bank. |
| 17:01.39 | znf | well, shit |
| 17:01.43 | znf | 3am to 111am?! |
| 17:01.44 | znf | wtf :-| |
| 17:02.06 | Dagmar | There's still some exciting random disconnections happening |
| 17:03.07 | znf | chaud_, give some poll about garrison buildings! |
| 17:03.27 | znf | I'm curious to see if people actuallu picked the Spirit Lodge (or Mage Tower I think, on Alliance) |
| 17:05.28 | bluipodcow | Lol wat znf |
| 17:05.39 | znf | bluipodcow, ? |
| 17:05.49 | Dagmar | That would be fairly interesting actually |
| 17:06.08 | Dagmar | ...although I'm not seeing a whole ton of flexibility in what people are going to build |
| 17:06.32 | Dagmar | If we could maybe compact some of the medium-sized buildings down to fit on a small plot, perhaps. |
| 17:07.08 | Dagmar | I've got the leatherworking shop, because my main is a leatherworker, but the skinning shack lasted all of three days |
| 17:07.22 | Dagmar | That mechanic is _far_ more complex than it could be |
| 17:07.50 | Dagmar | So, despite the fact that I'm still bound to the Golden Lantern, I've got the storage hut in it's place |
| 17:07.54 | nevcairiel | the barn is quite useful later on though, since its the only source for some crafting reagents |
| 17:08.16 | bluipodcow | 3am to 11am thingy znf |
| 17:08.17 | nevcairiel | also, storage hut and barn use different sized plots |
| 17:08.21 | Dagmar | ...and a salvage yard, although it's not doing a whole lot aside from generating mog gear and follower upgrades of questionable merit |
| 17:08.35 | bluipodcow | Us one finished 4hrs early today |
| 17:08.43 | znf | Dagmar, I got a BoE 665 neck from it |
| 17:09.04 | znf | And you wnt follower upgrades so you get ilvl 645 missions |
| 17:09.25 | Dagmar | ...which will be carefully selected based on which counters my followers don't have. |
| 17:09.30 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.14 | Dagmar | One or two more of those upgrades and I'll have that last achievement. |
| 17:10.25 | Dagmar | Two of my followers are already higher ilevel than I am |
| 17:10.50 | Dagmar | ...which would be pretty awesome if the bodyguards fought like they had better gear than me. |
| 17:10.53 | Dagmar | Or a brain. |
| 17:11.16 | Dagmar | I tried taking one on an Apexis mission. That felt like a pretty sizeable mistake |
| 17:11.30 | nevcairiel | they do ok'ish damage |
| 17:11.43 | Dagmar | Might as well take a todder to an all-you-can-eat candy bar |
| 17:11.46 | nevcairiel | maybe a third of what i do myself, so its a nice boost |
| 17:12.16 | bluipodcow | Raisen brain |
| 17:12.18 | mikma | is there a way to load a .lua file without adding it into .toc? |
| 17:12.19 | Dagmar | Mounting between fights? LOL |
| 17:12.25 | bluipodcow | I hungry |
| 17:12.33 | Dagmar | There is no "between fights" unless you fall off a mesa |
| 17:12.36 | nevcairiel | mikma: have a xml in the toc, have xml load lua file |
| 17:12.49 | Dagmar | It's like having your pet locked into aggressive mode |
| 17:12.59 | mikma | nevcairiel: i was thinking more like 'load file.lua' |
| 17:13.04 | nevcairiel | mikma: not possible |
| 17:13.15 | mikma | okidoki |
| 17:13.22 | chaud_ | znf literally no one because it is useless |
| 17:13.33 | chaud_ | only slightly more useful than the engineering toy building |
| 17:13.47 | znf | should just be able to put a medium-sized building in there :D |
| 17:14.39 | nevcairiel | the barracks are somewhat useful with the extra 5 followers, and currently i have the stables because it feels nice, i refuse to build the useless bunker/warmill though |
| 17:15.14 | Dagmar | I kept the stables just because of what Mr. Firebeard says. |
| 17:15.18 | Dagmar | Too funny. |
| 17:15.35 | Dagmar | My aussie guild mates fell out laughing |
| 17:15.39 | chaud_ | bunker is fine, free bonus roll and follower upgrades |
| 17:15.48 | nevcairiel | the upgrades are way way too rare |
| 17:17.41 | bluipodcow | *eats Dagmar* |
| 17:17.56 | Dagmar | I dunno. At this point I'm eyeing some of my follower's gear and thinking "Oh come now... You don't really need that." |
| 17:18.42 | bluipodcow | Shhhh |
| 17:18.48 | bluipodcow | Get in ma belly |
| 17:19.06 | Dagmar | Probably a bad idea. I am pretty sure I contain gluten. |
| 17:19.21 | Dagmar | ...and I *know* I contain a vast and varied assortment of preservatives. |
| 17:19.54 | Dagmar | ...and you don't even want to know about the artificial flavors and coloring. It was just Halloween here and I still have two giant bowls of candy. |
| 17:20.16 | Dagmar | It's going to take me until probably February to eat all of it. |
| 17:21.02 | Constie | Casual. |
| 17:21.37 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 17:29.50 | Maldivia | hmm, any good addons for showing where the vignettes are in WoD, and which your char hasn't killed yet etc? |
| 17:30.16 | kd3 | handynotes + handynotes_draenortreasures |
| 17:31.23 | chaud_ | upgrades were much less rare on beta |
| 17:31.28 | chaud_ | dunno why they changed it |
| 17:31.48 | Dagmar | Maldivia: HandyNotes has a Draenor module |
| 17:31.54 | bluipodcow | Home times :3 |
| 17:32.02 | Dagmar | Hint: The blue skulls are the ones that will generally kick your ass |
| 17:32.08 | Dagmar | _Generally_. |
| 17:32.25 | Maldivia | :D |
| 17:33.01 | Dagmar | I was freakin' _desperate_ for resources, or I would never have installed it. |
| 17:33.25 | Dagmar | ...but it did let me know right away that DEHTA was entirely justified in their hating of moi. |
| 17:34.46 | Dagmar | I dont' really use public transit all that much in WoW when I'm leveling. I sort of sweep a 100-yard wide tract of land free of all life on my way to and from various locations. |
| 17:38.06 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/item=111820#comments |
| 17:38.11 | mikma | now, that item is awesome. |
| 17:39.18 | Dagmar | lol "safety consideration" |
| 17:41.26 | Shirik | This workaround legitimately pisses me off http://support.microsoft.com/KB/2564571 |
| 17:41.40 | Shirik | It implies that there is some relationship between some random program provided with windows and explorer.exe |
| 17:42.18 | Dagmar | "if the Windows Installer's application heap becomes freed" <-- Wh-wh-WHAT? |
| 17:42.49 | Dagmar | The stuff that follows it is even more terrifying |
| 17:42.54 | Shirik | yeah it's pretty amazing huh? |
| 17:43.16 | Dagmar | Someday, some app is going to actually manage to _write_ to C:\Windows\System32 as a file. |
| 17:52.42 | kd3 | oh, they changed d/e rules |
| 17:52.46 | kd3 | I'm getting dust from blues now |
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| 18:00.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.13 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16940815/ |
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| 18:08.29 | karl_w_w | wow i got an abrogator stone |
| 18:08.37 | karl_w_w | from a lumber mill work order |
| 18:13.13 | zenzelezz | so a friend has had his server computer sitting unpowered and unused for six months because it was acting up. He believed it was the PSU or maybe RAM that was faulty; so I lent him an old computer (with the same generation hardware) so he could test it out. Sure enough he found the problem |
| 18:13.18 | zenzelezz | a loose RAM brick in the server |
| 18:23.02 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.01 | zenzelezz | fight the system bro |
| 18:29.06 | mikma | foxlit: hah |
| 18:32.00 | Gnarfoz | rename them at the top of your addon so you don't have to have that line in your code ;D |
| 18:38.38 | NuSuey | well ..any tips what would be the easiest way how to cancel playback of any cinematics movies within this http://pastebin.com/yenb4dit ? so far my experiments weren't successfull |
| 18:39.13 | Gnarfoz | grab CinematicSkip? |
| 18:39.43 | Gnarfoz | seems easier ^^ |
| 18:40.17 | zenzelezz | doesn't escape work? |
| 18:40.44 | NuSuey | zenzelezz: well I wanted to skip that .. so the movie won't be showed |
| 18:40.48 | NuSuey | *shown |
| 18:41.14 | zenzelezz | do you want to prevent it from being loaded? |
| 18:41.21 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: well the addon doesn't do what I need :) |
| 18:41.40 | NuSuey | zenzelezz: prevent movie viewing + showing the message I type which I posted |
| 18:41.41 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't cancel playback? |
| 18:42.06 | Gnarfoz | and I meant to grab it to see how that is done, so you can put it in your code |
| 18:42.17 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: oh :) |
| 18:50.42 | znf | well, crap, I wanted to do a nice screencap for Master Plan, it bugged a bit https://gfycat.com/UnrulyBrownAnaconda |
| 18:52.04 | Gnarfoz | that's how it always looks for me, the reward screen doesn't work properly |
| 18:52.07 | Gnarfoz | not sure why |
| 18:52.13 | karl_w_w | The server returned a "500 Internal Server Error" |
| 18:52.17 | karl_w_w | you're not wrong |
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| 18:56.23 | karl_w_w | â¬â´â¬â´â¤ ÍÊ Í¡Â°) ââ¬â´â¬â´ |
| 18:56.38 | karl_w_w | that's craftily crafted |
| 18:56.47 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: you got a pm :) |
| 18:57.21 | Gnarfoz | uh ok? |
| 18:57.34 | Gnarfoz | a pm I don't understand |
| 18:58.06 | NuSuey | damn it ..p-ersonal m-essage, or /msg on irc ..whatever :) |
| 18:58.15 | Gnarfoz | (on top of not understanding why I got a pm - that's wht the channel is for) |
| 18:58.29 | Gnarfoz | a pm /which/ I don't understand |
| 18:59.24 | foxlit | znf: damn it, that orc is fat. |
| 18:59.27 | karl_w_w | anyone seen nightcrawler yet? |
| 18:59.35 | NuSuey | well I didn't want to slap my stupid issues into everyone's face :) |
| 18:59.48 | znf | foxlit, I know! :D |
| 18:59.59 | Gnarfoz | you did when you asked earlier (and it's fine, it's what the channel is for, don't worry about it) |
| 19:00.15 | Gnarfoz | anyway :D what IS your goal |
| 19:00.39 | NuSuey | stop cinematic (don't show it) -> show message |
| 19:00.55 | NuSuey | if I'm using MovieFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() GameMovieFinished() end) at start I won't see the message |
| 19:01.44 | Gnarfoz | when do you want the message to show? |
| 19:01.54 | Gnarfoz | after playback has been canceled? |
| 19:02.47 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't just sticking your code into that anonymous function you just quoted be fine? (function() yourstuff() GameMovieFinished() end) |
| 19:08.08 | foxlit | are zero-delay timers batched at the end of frame or executed immediately on the .After call? |
| 19:09.04 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: hmmm..the problem is that (as you might have already guessed) new to lua and addon creation, so.. writing it correctly so it would work for me isn't easy as pie :) |
| 19:09.25 | nevcairiel | foxlit: dont know about immediately, but certainly still within the same frame |
| 19:13.51 | foxlit | not immediately. |
| 19:14.08 | NuSuey | try and error it is then |
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| 19:29.06 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: so far, without luck..but I might have missunderstood you based on my uber-low-knowledge of lua code |
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| 19:59.31 | NuSuey | damn, spend more than a hour tryint to make it work and .. still nothing :X |
| 20:05.31 | NuSuey | singing: "I need a hero" |
| 20:07.07 | Simca | foxlit: hmm, http://i.imgur.com/N03lISw.jpg |
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| 20:08.37 | Simca | looks like the second to last mission, Raiding the Raiders, never bonus roll'd properly |
| 20:09.47 | Simca | aye, /run C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll(380) gave me loot and then your addon instantly finished the final mission and unlocked the 'view rewards' button |
| 20:21.31 | NuSuey | http://pastebin.com/K8cFtdLN why does it stop the movie playback yet I still hear the audio from the cinematic? |
| 20:22.52 | Mr_Rabies | anyone have any clue how the headhunter works? |
| 20:23.08 | Mr_Rabies | if i don't pick a follower they can show up again later right? maybe even with a different quality? |
| 20:24.01 | NuSuey | any help would be appreciated :/ |
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| 20:25.01 | Simca | Mr_Rabies: headhunter presents you with a choice of 3 randomly generated followers based on your choice of 1 trait or 1 ability |
| 20:25.17 | Simca | so you'll probably never see that exact follower again |
| 20:25.18 | Mr_Rabies | but it doesn't lock them out if i pick another |
| 20:25.24 | Simca | no |
| 20:25.47 | Mr_Rabies | because i've got a random follower named after a friend i know, but they're only green and don't have the ability i want at the moment |
| 20:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather wait and get them in a usable capacity :p |
| 20:26.06 | Simca | hmm |
| 20:26.22 | Simca | i'm not quite sure how big the list of names is, honestly |
| 20:26.26 | Mr_Rabies | are the inn followers purely random? |
| 20:26.32 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:26.52 | Mr_Rabies | well, she actually has two followers named after her so |
| 20:26.56 | Mr_Rabies | i guess there's always that :v |
| 20:27.47 | Simca | NuSuey: try adding a self:Stop() line in there |
| 20:28.07 | Simca | on line 5 |
| 20:28.09 | Mr_Rabies | one's her real name and the other's her handle |
| 20:28.16 | NuSuey | Simca: yeah.. will try that |
| 20:31.10 | Simca | actually, MovieFrame_OnMovieFinished(MovieFrame) is what the game does, apparently |
| 20:32.54 | znf | Mr_Rabies, I hope you picked salvager as your trait :P |
| 20:33.09 | Mr_Rabies | high stamina, actually |
| 20:33.15 | Mr_Rabies | salvager will come later |
| 20:33.23 | znf | salvager should come first :) |
| 20:33.30 | znf | all your followers should have salvage! :D |
| 20:33.43 | Mr_Rabies | why's that? i feel pretty comfortable with my GR at the moment |
| 20:33.58 | znf | Who are you? |
| 20:34.08 | znf | you can never have enough resources :-| |
| 20:34.14 | znf | I can't get more to upgrade my warmill to lvl2 |
| 20:34.18 | Mr_Rabies | upgraded everything but my stables to rank 2 or higher so far, and i could, just don't see the point |
| 20:34.25 | Mr_Rabies | my mill is rank 3 |
| 20:34.35 | Mr_Rabies | er, lumber mill |
| 20:34.40 | Mr_Rabies | war mill is the same as a bunker, right? |
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| 20:34.51 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:37.38 | nevcairiel | znf: i have 2k resources at hand and nothing to spend them on |
| 20:37.51 | znf | O.O |
| 20:37.52 | xyphoid_ | stables + lumber + trading post has meant i'm totally fine on resources - it's the inn i'm missing |
| 20:37.54 | znf | I hate you people :( |
| 20:38.08 | nevcairiel | and i dont even have lumber+trading, only lumber |
| 20:38.20 | znf | The LM does like crapall :( 20 every 4 hours, geez |
| 20:38.34 | znf | I'm constantly resource starved |
| 20:38.34 | nevcairiel | i get 30 noew |
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| 20:39.12 | xyphoid_ | i've been sitting at 1500 for hte last few days with nothing to use it on and loading the dwarf thing fully |
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| 20:39.57 | znf | I can't even get resources to make the warmill to spend it on that :P |
| 20:40.07 | znf | but I got a scavanger so late :( |
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| 20:41.16 | xyphoid_ | i tore down my barracks for stables which has given me mad resources |
| 20:41.20 | xyphoid_ | so a tradeoff i guess |
| 20:41.29 | xyphoid_ | no inn / no barracks is painful |
| 20:41.33 | mikma | https://www.facebook.com/Sherlock.BBCW/photos/a.438342982932969.1073741825.163565280410742/593066900793909/?type=1 |
| 20:41.36 | mikma | WOOOOOOO! |
| 20:41.46 | Cidan | I'm barely getting my on garrison resources |
| 20:41.51 | nevcairiel | i have barracks and stables, seems like a nice choice since the bunker is rather subpar imho |
| 20:41.53 | Cidan | I'm working solely on short term profits |
| 20:41.59 | Cidan | not gear or anything else |
| 20:42.10 | Cidan | ...on the plus side, I'm absolutely fucking drowning in gold, so. |
| 20:42.45 | Cidan | I figure once the market crashes, I'll buy what I need at a fraction of the price. |
| 20:42.59 | xyphoid_ | seems like in the long term you absolutely need barracks for the 25 followers |
| 20:43.17 | nevcairiel | right now i have way more followers than missions |
| 20:43.21 | nevcairiel | still wondering if i'm broken |
| 20:43.35 | znf | I'm having the other issue... |
| 20:43.42 | znf | no resources but too many missions and not enough followers |
| 20:43.56 | xyphoid_ | it is a fun optimisation game anyway |
| 20:44.30 | znf | I don't get how you get resources from the stables |
| 20:45.11 | znf | is it a one/day quest that grants 20 resources? |
| 20:45.12 | znf | or more than that? |
| 20:46.04 | nevcairiel | 6 dailys that yield 20 each |
| 20:46.14 | znf | that's not much :-/ |
| 20:46.27 | nevcairiel | although mine start ending about now, already finished 3 mounts |
| 20:47.35 | xyphoid_ | how many days is it - i must be about ready |
| 20:47.58 | xyphoid_ | i heard the level 3 challenge is broken because you can't get the training mounts any more? |
| 20:48.48 | nevcairiel | not sure |
| 20:48.58 | nevcairiel | dont think anyone can be there yet anyway |
| 20:50.04 | znf | anyway, bunker/warmill is important for follower ilvl |
| 20:50.19 | nevcairiel | the things they produce are way too rare |
| 20:50.20 | znf | then you get rare missions that reward ilvl 655 gear |
| 20:51.25 | znf | ah, can contain iron scraps, too |
| 20:51.51 | Simca | mostly contains* |
| 20:52.03 | znf | I see |
| 20:52.04 | nevcairiel | if you care about those transmog sets, sure |
| 20:52.16 | znf | I don't |
| 20:52.18 | nevcairiel | which i dont, and the follower items are super rare |
| 20:52.20 | znf | I want follower ilvl :P |
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| 20:52.31 | Simca | towards the end of the beta i was getting like 1/6 work orders as follower gear |
| 20:52.31 | znf | I get some from the salvage yard |
| 20:52.41 | znf | so that's like 1 item / day |
| 20:52.49 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:52.55 | nevcairiel | which does it produce? |
| 20:53.13 | nevcairiel | if its like the +3 ilvl ones, totally not worth it :p |
| 20:53.32 | znf | probably random... |
| 20:54.10 | nevcairiel | in any case, the stables L2 have paid for themself 3 times over by now, so i can re-consider them once the mount trainings end |
| 20:54.10 | Simca | salvage yard can contain any follower gear, but it is random |
| 20:54.25 | nevcairiel | chances on the follower gear are pretty good though |
| 20:54.42 | Simca | ilvl 615 armor set is about 2.6% drop |
| 20:55.42 | Simca | 630 is like 0.5%, and 645 is 0.1% |
| 20:56.21 | znf | Hmm |
| 20:56.26 | znf | I will soon have to go out and do lumber stuff |
| 20:57.02 | znf | I hate that crap :( |
| 20:57.09 | znf | should show only timber you can harvest |
| 20:57.17 | xyphoid_ | [My Item Level Is Higher than Yours] was a depressing achievement |
| 20:57.19 | xyphoid_ | because it was true |
| 20:57.38 | nevcairiel | i would have to seriously push a follower to make that true by now |
| 20:58.39 | Simca | i have 16 item enhancements and 4 ilvl 615 weapon sets; i think i'm going to push my first few followers over 615 now |
| 21:01.27 | znf | yeah, I should have waited :( |
| 21:01.34 | znf | I applied them as I got them |
| 21:01.40 | nevcairiel | i did, until i had like stuff for 8 guys |
| 21:01.44 | znf | and now my misions require 615/630 all over the place |
| 21:04.25 | xyphoid_ | i notice the ilvl 600 people show as red for ilvl 615 missions - so they get the 10% xp etc? |
| 21:04.31 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:04.35 | xyphoid_ | what about like 601? |
| 21:04.44 | Gnarfoz | try it out? |
| 21:04.45 | Simca | 50% exp if below 615, probably |
| 21:04.57 | Simca | 600 vs 614 shouldn't matter |
| 21:05.15 | xyphoid_ | i forgot to check while upgrading dudes and i was taking them straight to 615 :( |
| 21:05.36 | znf | not sure about the XP |
| 21:05.39 | nevcairiel | they lose like 5% effectivity on their success contribution per missing ilvl though |
| 21:05.42 | znf | but they can't counter the ability if they're red |
| 21:06.14 | mikma | http://www.tivi.fi/uutisia/tassako+on+hiiren+korvaaja/a1031807 |
| 21:06.17 | mikma | whops :) |
| 21:06.20 | Simca | nevcairiel: the ilvl number is actually used in a mathematical calculation somewhere rather than in a comparison? |
| 21:06.22 | mikma | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flow-an-intuitive-precise-wireless-controller |
| 21:06.25 | mikma | there |
| 21:06.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/pOShO1r.png |
| 21:06.52 | znf | See? |
| 21:07.00 | nevcairiel | Simca: everything else being equal, 614 is better than 610 |
| 21:07.01 | znf | not enough ilvl, no Magic Debuff counter |
| 21:07.46 | Ivnedar | oh wow, master plan definitely not happy if you open the interface while your bags are full |
| 21:08.11 | znf | you get stuff in your mail |
| 21:08.27 | Simca | nevcairiel: hm. i wonder if there is some sort of 'partially effective' threshold, like there is with regular level (i.e. -1 level from mission reduces by 1/3, -2 level from mission reduces by 2/3, -3 reduces by 3/3) |
| 21:08.52 | nevcairiel | i heard its 5% per ilvl, but that might just be guesswork |
| 21:09.14 | Simca | yeah that sounds like nonsense |
| 21:09.36 | Simca | could be spaced every 5 ilvls, so thresholds at 605, 610 instead of -2, -1 |
| 21:09.57 | Simca | or might be purely mathematical, using /15 as the base instead of /3 |
| 21:10.01 | nevcairiel | its easy enough to test if you want to upgrade your dudes anyway |
| 21:10.09 | Simca | yeah |
| 21:10.13 | znf | I can tell you that -15 iLvls == 0 counter :D |
| 21:10.21 | Simca | I should probably post this stuff somewhere |
| 21:16.44 | Simca | man i get the worst luck with salvage crates |
| 21:17.01 | Simca | everyone i know is >100 and I'm at 71/100. just did 9 missions, got 2 crates |
| 21:17.14 | Simca | no, it was 10 missions actually |
| 21:17.34 | nevcairiel | i'm at > 100, but now i dont get any missions anymore :p |
| 21:18.12 | nevcairiel | i wonder if its related to having all followers at 100 as well, blizzard may want to tone down the number of missions you have to do, but it still seems like i get like 4 missions a day now |
| 21:18.42 | Simca | could be |
| 21:19.14 | Simca | i've been recruiting recently so i have like 16 available missions, since i have a few followers at 96-98 and a few at 90-92 |
| 21:19.44 | nevcairiel | i'll recruit tomorrow again, and i guess i could swap in one of my inactives to level them |
| 21:19.57 | Simca | also these 4-6 hour missions that cost 20 resources and reward 60g... who would do that? |
| 21:20.13 | Simca | that's like the worst conversion rate from garrison resources ever |
| 21:20.26 | nevcairiel | i do all the missions |
| 21:20.32 | xyphoid_ | haha yeah the gold rewards are a booby prize in general |
| 21:20.46 | znf | Simca, I do them, because crates |
| 21:20.52 | xyphoid_ | CRAATES |
| 21:20.57 | znf | because BoE epic |
| 21:20.59 | Simca | maybe that's why i haven't gotten 100 yet lol |
| 21:21.18 | Simca | i've been letting my followers idle rather than waste resources on those |
| 21:21.26 | znf | maybe that's why I'm broke in resources :D |
| 21:21.50 | nevcairiel | when leveling my followers, i send them on as many missions as possible, not letting them idle at all when possible, even when success was only like 50% |
| 21:22.25 | xyphoid_ | all this practice on terrible ios timer games has been great for this |
| 21:22.37 | Simca | yeah i've only been ignoring the level 100 gold missions |
| 21:23.07 | Simca | and the level 100 'amg ilvl 615 bracers' ones |
| 21:24.48 | nevcairiel | yeah i do all of those |
| 21:25.17 | nevcairiel | hence only 2 lvl 90 missions in my available list right now, and all my active followers are 100 xD |
| 21:25.25 | nevcairiel | saving them for tomorrow when the inn recruits a new guy |
| 21:26.17 | znf | isn't it once/week? |
| 21:26.20 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/up.mp4 |
| 21:26.38 | znf | foxlit, yes |
| 21:27.13 | nevcairiel | unless you make this optional, i'll sadly have to stop using your addon :( |
| 21:28.09 | nevcairiel | also something weird is going on, after the level up animation they return to their previous level at lower xp than before |
| 21:28.45 | foxlit | there's a /run FakeMissionReport() involved. |
| 21:29.17 | Fisker | I do every quest |
| 21:29.30 | nevcairiel | in any case, wtb options to disable summary mission reports and mass completion |
| 21:30.21 | znf | and make it so mass completion is somehow exposed in a way I an access it from breeze :D |
| 21:30.44 | Simca | oh wow, this guy on MMOC forums noticed a bug an API function for garrisons and the two cases he's seen it are the two cases where we've been getting flawed success results |
| 21:30.44 | znf | because I can't figure out how to hook into that clicky thingie :-/ |
| 21:30.45 | nevcairiel | whats the point of breeze if someone runs this already |
| 21:30.57 | znf | nevcairiel, some people still prefer to see them dinging up :-/ |
| 21:31.01 | znf | and individual progression |
| 21:31.37 | znf | currently I have breeze to disable itself if MasterPlan is active |
| 21:32.21 | Simca | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14873357231 |
| 21:33.14 | znf | I don't understand something. Why do same level trinkets have different primary stat, at the same level? :-/ |
| 21:33.19 | nevcairiel | the GarrisionUI manages to display individual counters however Simca |
| 21:33.42 | nevcairiel | znf: procs can be stronger and require more stat budget |
| 21:34.14 | Simca | yes but it seems unlikely that the case that is giving flawed success %s is also happening by coincidence for another API function's returns |
| 21:34.26 | Simca | it's more likely that there is a related underlying cause |
| 21:34.32 | znf | nevcairiel, do not like, feels diabloish :( |
| 21:34.34 | Simca | causing both to be wrong |
| 21:37.16 | Semlar | znf: they're bugged |
| 21:37.34 | znf | the trinkets? |
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| 21:37.36 | Semlar | yeah |
| 21:37.57 | Semlar | i don't know if blizzard plans on fixing them at some point, but they obviously aren't supposed to have far less primary stat than other trinkets of the same level |
| 21:38.00 | NuSuey | Simca: are you still in here? |
| 21:38.11 | Simca | yes |
| 21:38.16 | Semlar | the trinket i have that gives 106 agility in-game has 159 agility on the armory |
| 21:38.37 | Simca | they nerfed a bunch of trinkets |
| 21:38.39 | znf | the caster trinket I have has... 88 intellect |
| 21:38.42 | Simca | i don't know why |
| 21:38.48 | znf | another one has 159 intellect |
| 21:38.55 | znf | then 106 intellect |
| 21:39.06 | Semlar | all of them should have the same amount of primary stat |
| 21:39.18 | znf | indeed |
| 21:39.21 | Simca | of course they never announce these things because adding a line to the hotfix blog would be very difficult i'm sure |
| 21:39.22 | znf | and adjust the proc |
| 21:39.45 | Semlar | and it sure as hell shouldn't be 106, because my 614 trinket gives 105 |
| 21:40.11 | Simca | post-nerf the DMF healer trinket lost ~69 intellect |
| 21:40.23 | Simca | it has less intellect than ilvl 630 heroic trinkets now |
| 21:41.26 | Semlar | actually the armory has the 614 trinket at 137 agility so i have no idea what's going on with that |
| 21:42.28 | NuSuey | Simca:well the self:Stop(); didn't help |
| 21:42.40 | Simca | yeah i suggested an alternative like 30 seconds after that |
| 21:42.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.59 | Simca | <Simca> actually, MovieFrame_OnMovieFinished(MovieFrame) is what the game does, apparently |
| 21:43.13 | znf | AskMrRobot suggests the Toxic Totem (SoO) trinket |
| 21:43.27 | znf | And judging by the proc rate, it doesn't seem to be wrong :-| |
| 21:44.22 | Simca | wow blizzard has been busy with silent hotfixes |
| 21:44.47 | Simca | about 1/3 of the .adb files are >0 bytes now, meaning the server has newer data than the client |
| 21:44.57 | Simca | even TaxiNodes.adb, lol |
| 21:45.04 | Simca | they stealth-fixed a flight path or something |
| 21:46.10 | nevcairiel | and the client patch from the ptr is coming to live too |
| 21:46.31 | Simca | it contains no dbc changes though; last dbcs are still from 19057 |
| 21:46.57 | nevcairiel | probably just dont need to patch it with their hotfix system |
| 21:47.24 | NuSuey | Simca: oh :o was afk,sry ..well I tried MovieFrame_OnMovieFinished(MovieFrame); ...still the same effect ..http://pastebin.com/vn44gxhP ..am I doing something wrong? |
| 21:48.16 | Semlar | maybe i will go back to my old trinkets |
| 21:48.40 | Semlar | the mastery buff from these are complete garbage for me |
| 21:53.15 | Simca | NuSuey: i'm confused; if your purpose is to stop the movie from playing |
| 21:53.31 | Simca | then wouldn't you just delete lines 2-6 of that code? |
| 21:53.43 | Simca | redefining the function as nothing. |
| 21:54.46 | Simca | i mean if you don't want the movie to play, there is no reason to call self:StartMovie in the first place |
| 21:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | Gnarfoz: re: your question about the wowhead looter addon |
| 21:55.29 | Mr_Rabies | no wowhead/zam employees in #wowhead anymore |
| 21:55.34 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 21:55.38 | Gnarfoz | good to know |
| 21:55.53 | Gnarfoz | time to leave, one less channel with amarande in it |
| 21:56.12 | fewyn | no one really ever talked in there either |
| 21:56.17 | fewyn | it mostly got hit by spammers |
| 21:56.18 | Mr_Rabies | as i understand, tencent claimed they needed to downsize various zam properties so they let some people go :v |
| 21:56.32 | NuSuey | Mr_Rabies: :O really? |
| 21:57.27 | Mr_Rabies | tencent is a shady, shady company |
| 21:58.05 | Mr_Rabies | i hate that they own zam, because most of the zam-associated sites are really great when left to their own devices but they seem to be occasionally interfering |
| 21:58.22 | Cidan | works for a tencent funded startup |
| 21:58.27 | Cidan | they're pretty good |
| 21:58.42 | NuSuey | Simca: hmm..so I should function MovieFrame_PlayMovie(self, movieID) and end it ? or what is the way to do it ? |
| 21:59.28 | Simca | sure, if that is your goal; just literally "function MovieFrame_PlayMovie(...) end" would work |
| 21:59.46 | Mr_Rabies | Like this, Cidan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQS4H9ocMnM |
| 22:00.08 | Cidan | more or less |
| 22:01.08 | Mr_Rabies | my brain literally goes here anytime i see [...]'re pretty good |
| 22:01.16 | Mr_Rabies | it goes into metal gear solid flashbacks |
| 22:05.59 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.28 | xyphoid_ | i loved that line |
| 22:07.47 | xyphoid_ | wow suddenly sliding from wackiness to surrealism |
| 22:08.06 | NuSuey | Simca: well..it doesn't play the cinematics, but it also disables my keyboard input and I won't see the message ..hmm..hard to explain ..check http://pastebin.com/393fk7Wu the code now doesn't make sense in any way:P |
| 22:09.56 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 22:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've suddenly stopped getting salvage |
| 22:10.25 | Gnarfoz | luck, yo |
| 22:10.39 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way that Master Plan could interfere with that is there? i doubt it |
| 22:10.49 | jleclanche | there isnt |
| 22:10.58 | jleclanche | Mr_Rabies: is your building getting upgraded maybe? |
| 22:11.01 | Mr_Rabies | weird, they must have nerfed the drop rate |
| 22:11.02 | Semlar | NuSuey: http://pastebin.com/EjXPiRr8 this is what i have to skip cinematics if that's what you're trying to do |
| 22:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | nope, i've done like 8 mission and gotten 0 |
| 22:11.15 | Gnarfoz | no, just bad luck. |
| 22:11.15 | Mr_Rabies | whereas before it felt like around 50% |
| 22:11.24 | jleclanche | luck |
| 22:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | of missions would give some |
| 22:11.24 | jleclanche | :P |
| 22:11.33 | Ivnedar | I got 3 crates in the mail after completing 3 this morning |
| 22:11.36 | NuSuey | Semlar: + the showing of the message based on the movie id |
| 22:11.42 | Ivnedar | no idea what other rewards, that all vanished :( |
| 22:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | just swapped my salvage yard around with my prof buildings |
| 22:11.54 | fewyn | i love my salvage yard |
| 22:11.56 | fewyn | it's so sexy |
| 22:11.57 | xyphoid_ | i feel like it's about 25% |
| 22:11.58 | fewyn | at level 3 |
| 22:11.59 | Semlar | well, then print it out of the function arguments if that's where it is |
| 22:12.07 | Mr_Rabies | maybe that'll fix it |
| 22:12.15 | xyphoid_ | obviously very subjective |
| 22:12.22 | Mr_Rabies | seems like jostling buildings fixes things here and there |
| 22:12.30 | foxlit | You may also be completing less missions than before. |
| 22:13.41 | foxlit | [Maybe it's worth keeping some active follower in the 91-95 and 95-99 range just to keep getting short missions.] |
| 22:13.43 | Ivnedar | the higher level you are, the more 4-10 hour missions you're doing instead of 30-90 minute ones I guess |
| 22:13.56 | Simca | <Mr_Rabies> nope, i've done like 8 mission and gotten 0 |
| 22:13.56 | Simca | <Gnarfoz> no, just bad luck. |
| 22:14.01 | Simca | i did 15 today and got 3 |
| 22:14.11 | Simca | it's not impossible just bad luck |
| 22:14.20 | Ivnedar | 90% of my crates have 1g vendor trash in them still :D |
| 22:14.25 | Ivnedar | level 2 yard though |
| 22:14.29 | Mr_Rabies | well, people were saying that salvage yards were a bit buggy already |
| 22:14.35 | Mr_Rabies | that level 3 seemed to have a lower chance than 2 |
| 22:14.40 | Mr_Rabies | so maybe they fixed that |
| 22:14.45 | Mr_Rabies | who knows |
| 22:14.52 | fewyn | i've had like 10 big salvage crates today |
| 22:14.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's all mystical sky numbers that i can't see |
| 22:14.55 | xyphoid_ | i think the sample size is so small as far as contents goes |
| 22:14.56 | Gnarfoz | I get a lot of green items that my enchanting thing can't disenchant >_> |
| 22:15.06 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: yeah that is annoying |
| 22:15.06 | fewyn | they are all old greens |
| 22:15.07 | fewyn | from like |
| 22:15.09 | Simca | people always say that though when chance is involved and they don't know the numbers |
| 22:15.10 | jleclanche | no |
| 22:15.11 | fewyn | vanilla |
| 22:15.11 | foxlit | salvage spews low-level greens at you |
| 22:15.11 | fewyn | etc |
| 22:15.12 | jleclanche | theres lvl 100 greens |
| 22:15.18 | Gnarfoz | ilvl 17 - 597 |
| 22:15.24 | jleclanche | theres lvl 100 greens. |
| 22:15.26 | Mr_Rabies | [05:14][1][Evoleno-Ary] Athiest's have the highest dps |
| 22:15.27 | Gnarfoz | everything's there >_> |
| 22:15.28 | jleclanche | from the big crates |
| 22:15.29 | Mr_Rabies | never change, chat |
| 22:15.30 | Mr_Rabies | never change |
| 22:15.31 | fewyn | i've mostly been vendoring them |
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| 22:15.43 | fewyn | <3 Mr_Rabies |
| 22:15.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, what else am I going to do ^^ |
| 22:15.46 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/items/114120-big-crate-of-salvage#related:contains-item |
| 22:15.48 | Mr_Rabies | level 100 greens are worth their weight in gold |
| 22:15.53 | xyphoid_ | haha my first salvage was the good old fire wand that you used to use instead of casting at low levels |
| 22:15.58 | Simca | contains list for big crate is at 102 pages of possible items |
| 22:15.58 | foxlit | If the shrines are to Terokk, why do I keep looting Anzu's stuff? |
| 22:16.00 | Simca | and growing daily |
| 22:16.21 | Mr_Rabies | it's basically the global world drop table |
| 22:16.24 | fewyn | it pretty much can drop all world drops |
| 22:16.25 | Mr_Rabies | just combined into one big one |
| 22:16.26 | fewyn | i assume |
| 22:16.37 | NuSuey | Simca, Semlar well your code won't enable me to get the movie id since it doesn't play the movie :P thats the problem |
| 22:16.37 | jleclanche | Simca: didnt they tweet about it |
| 22:17.05 | NuSuey | that why I gone for the approach of load the movie, don't play it.. get the movie id.. but I had audio still :/ |
| 22:17.06 | Simca | jleclanche: idk |
| 22:17.25 | jleclanche | Simca: I suppose you can answer this, is it intentional that salvage yard level 3 keeps giving me level 20+ greens? If so that sucks D: |
| 22:17.25 | jleclanche | the salvage yard loot is SUPER ULTRA random. Level 3 will give you a better pool, but yeah, it contains... LOTS of things. LOTS. (Muffinus) |
| 22:17.36 | Semlar | NuSuey: the id is one of the arguments in the function right? |
| 22:18.01 | Simca | NuSuey: function MovieFrame_PlayMovie(self, ID) print(ID) end |
| 22:18.50 | Simca | you can just do whatever you want with the ID inside your replacement MovieFrame_PlayMovie function |
| 22:19.01 | Simca | I just added print(ID) which outputs the ID to chat |
| 22:19.27 | fewyn | guess i need to hunt down the glider garrison resources in nagrand tonight |
| 22:20.15 | fewyn | yay got my first stables mount :D Trained Meadowstomper |
| 22:20.17 | Simca | yeah each set of those is worth 30 resources |
| 22:20.27 | Simca | you can get like 300 resources from gliders in nagrand |
| 22:20.38 | fewyn | i want my level 3 lumber mill |
| 22:21.01 | Simca | it is very tedious though, unfortunately |
| 22:21.23 | Simca | the gliders are all at the top of mountains with narrow, winding paths, which are only on one side of the mountain |
| 22:21.38 | nebula169 | just heroic leap up there |
| 22:21.39 | Simca | so you get up there, fly to your target, then you have to hike back which is like... 3-5 minutes of time |
| 22:21.44 | fewyn | yeah |
| 22:21.44 | jleclanche | Fisker: so how many maps did you sell so far? |
| 22:21.49 | fewyn | it's going to be annoying as hell |
| 22:21.59 | fewyn | but i need the resources |
| 22:22.20 | Mr_Rabies | level 3 lm was my first lv3 building |
| 22:22.22 | Mr_Rabies | :O |
| 22:22.30 | foxlit | I wonder if travel form wild charge is actually any faster than just running |
| 22:22.41 | fewyn | my first level 3 was |
| 22:22.44 | fewyn | i think the mine? |
| 22:22.55 | Simca | mine was LM as well |
| 22:23.08 | fewyn | i didn't have the lm blueprint until tonight |
| 22:23.11 | fewyn | i went with inn first |
| 22:23.13 | fewyn | which was my mistake |
| 22:23.24 | fewyn | all my alts will get LM first now |
| 22:23.42 | Simca | if you are willing to level an alt to 93; you can get level 3 LM at twice the speed |
| 22:23.56 | Simca | since LM lvl 3 achievement is account-wide |
| 22:23.56 | fewyn | yeah i have the blueprint unlocked now |
| 22:24.05 | Simca | oh |
| 22:24.08 | Simca | nice |
| 22:24.20 | fewyn | got it last night along with salvage yard level 3 |
| 22:24.29 | fewyn | i upgraded my salvage yard first tho |
| 22:24.33 | Gnarfoz | I still need to grab the LM follower |
| 22:24.47 | NuSuey | stupid question. I do have to restart WoW each time I update something in the addon, or am I a big idiot?:) |
| 22:24.47 | Ivnedar | I do regret not having any alts I spend time on with the garrison |
| 22:25.05 | fewyn | depends on the changes to the addon NuSuey |
| 22:25.06 | Ivnedar | only if new files are added |
| 22:25.13 | fewyn | if new files are added you need to exit and restart |
| 22:25.20 | Ivnedar | the client lists out all the files when it starts up |
| 22:25.21 | fewyn | if it's just file updates a reload /should/ work |
| 22:25.29 | Ivnedar | it'll reread then on reload, but not discover new files |
| 22:26.01 | Simca | NuSuey: assuming you are running dbm, just type /rl (shortcut for /reload) |
| 22:26.50 | Ivnedar | It'd been a while since I'd played wow when I came back from wod, I was typing out /script ReloadUI() every time instead of /reload ... |
| 22:27.04 | Ivnedar | s/from/for/ |
| 22:27.17 | Ivnedar | thanks perl :P |
| 22:28.40 | Simca | "Lava Burst now has a chance equal to the character's Critical Strike chance to trigger an additional Multistrike. This is separate from the standard two chances for Lava Burst to Multistrike; one Lava Burst could trigger up to three Multistrikes (two standard Multistrikes, plus one more from Critical Strike chance)." |
| 22:29.05 | Simca | translation: "We evaluated elemental shaman carefully, and after considering all of the factors, we decided that Lava Burst needed a fourth level of RNG." |
| 22:29.06 | Ivnedar | that's a nice burst |
| 22:29.34 | Ivnedar | should give every triggered burst the same chance to trigger a new burst |
| 22:29.37 | Ivnedar | see how high a chain people can get |
| 22:29.39 | Simca | yes. |
| 22:29.47 | Simca | and nerf the damage way down |
| 22:30.08 | Simca | so it's like playing russian roulette when you fight elemental shaman |
| 22:30.10 | Ivnedar | have a counter ticking up and accolades when you hit 5, 10, 25, 50, etc |
| 22:30.10 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like vanilla pallies |
| 22:30.17 | Mr_Rabies | either 0 damage |
| 22:30.20 | Mr_Rabies | or 95% of your hp |
| 22:30.24 | Mr_Rabies | no inbetween |
| 22:30.57 | Ivnedar | I loved fighting mages and locks |
| 22:31.10 | Ivnedar | long wind up time, you could see them procing their buffs ready for a big single hit |
| 22:31.19 | Ivnedar | just as they're about to complete their final cast, spell reflect |
| 22:31.22 | Ivnedar | then /giggle |
| 22:36.42 | Simca | 19227 is live now |
| 22:37.50 | fewyn | yep i see it |
| 22:38.08 | fewyn | i don't feel like restarting my game though |
| 22:38.33 | Simca | given their history of syncing server and client builds; i wouldn't restart your game if you want to keep playing |
| 22:41.53 | fewyn | well nevermind |
| 22:41.56 | fewyn | i got dced |
| 22:43.14 | fewyn | bleh |
| 22:43.17 | fewyn | incompatible |
| 22:43.51 | fewyn | they haven't pushed the new build number to the servers |
| 22:43.53 | fewyn | lesigh |
| 22:44.02 | NuSuey | Simca: function MovieFrame_PlayMovie(self, id) end if id == 16 then message("text") end ..is what you were saying? |
| 22:44.19 | Simca | yes |
| 22:44.26 | Simca | assuming 'message' is some kind of function |
| 22:45.10 | NuSuey | well message is just a message |
| 22:45.23 | Silencer | is author for clcret addon here maybe ? :) |
| 22:46.14 | Xuerian | Simca: As long as we get a 1x-4x critical modifier popup with a nuke explosion animation on 4x, I'm good with that. Ogre Magi power. |
| 22:46.17 | foxlit | the trees are hiding :( |
| 22:46.18 | NuSuey | Simca: before I used hooksecurefunc(MovieFrame, "StartMovie", function(_, id) if id == 1 then message("Logo") end) but that doesn't work too..with Semlar's code |
| 22:47.30 | Simca | 'print' is a function that outputs to chat, so like print("Logo") would make sense, but I don't know what function 'message' is |
| 22:47.39 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, so...how do you learn cooking recipes? i realize i could just buy the food on the AH and taste it enough times to learn it |
| 22:48.00 | Semlar | message brings up a dialog box |
| 22:48.05 | Semlar | like the error frame |
| 22:48.17 | Mr_Rabies | but where did the initial recipes come from, if the only way to learn them is by eating them |
| 22:48.29 | fewyn | Mr_Rabies: by actually cooking |
| 22:48.31 | fewyn | you get "ideas" |
| 22:48.33 | fewyn | while cooking |
| 22:48.44 | Cidan | we're making a new distributed caching system here at work |
| 22:48.45 | NuSuey | Simca: well .. found out that it might work..function MovieFrame_PlayMovie(self, id) if id == 16 then message("text") end end ..but I can't use my keyboard keys to move etc |
| 22:48.49 | Cidan | we're calling it june |
| 22:48.55 | Cidan | the june cache |
| 22:49.04 | Semlar | use my code |
| 22:49.07 | Cidan | pretty damn clever |
| 22:49.09 | Semlar | add a print statement inside the function |
| 22:49.19 | fewyn | why are pistachios so tasty |
| 22:49.21 | fewyn | yet expensive |
| 22:49.26 | Cidan | because tasty |
| 22:49.28 | Simca | call self:Hide() before your if statement |
| 22:49.50 | Simca | the MovieFrame is still visible so it is accepting your keyboard input instead of the game |
| 22:50.21 | Semlar | just use the actual functions you're supposed to call when finishing a cinematic |
| 22:51.19 | Simca | he doesn't want to run the cinematic at all |
| 22:51.43 | Simca | it's better this way, there's no point in starting a movie just to end it |
| 22:52.12 | Semlar | but.. my code doesn't play it.. |
| 22:52.17 | NuSuey | Simca: http://pastebin.com/8NfUijvX like this? |
| 22:52.59 | NuSuey | Semlar: I need to disable the cinematic and get it's id and provide a message on the screen with some info |
| 22:53.22 | Semlar | do i need to explain how to add a print statement |
| 22:53.42 | Simca | i kind of mentioned replacing message with print would be important |
| 22:53.49 | Simca | but yeah that is otherwise fine, NuSuey |
| 22:53.55 | NuSuey | ehm I don't want it to be printed there - but via a message |
| 22:54.29 | Simca | print just means output to screen, or in this case, chat |
| 22:54.31 | Semlar | it's not fine he's just overwriting the thing i wrote with another function so the first one is pointless |
| 22:55.08 | Simca | yeah i don't know, he showed me a 6 line snippet with none of that code, semlar and asked how to fix it |
| 22:55.08 | NuSuey | and it's still disabling the keyboard (well can use only A and D) |
| 22:55.22 | Simca | your code wasn't in the snippet he pasted at all |
| 22:55.28 | Semlar | the one he just linked |
| 22:55.32 | fewyn | "Couldn't load Blizzard_GarrisonUI: Corrupt" |
| 22:55.33 | fewyn | wat? |
| 22:55.34 | Semlar | has my function in it |
| 22:55.41 | Semlar | and then overwrites it immediately afterward |
| 22:55.43 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/World_of_Warcraft_2014-11-25_16-55-21.jpg |
| 22:55.48 | Simca | yeah i know but the ones he has been posting before that didn't have it |
| 22:55.50 | Mr_Rabies | apparently everyone is having that problem right now, fewyn |
| 22:55.54 | Mr_Rabies | i think they broke the command table |
| 22:55.56 | fewyn | ok so not just me |
| 22:55.59 | fewyn | gg blizzard |
| 22:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait |
| 22:56.04 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 22:56.06 | Semlar | all he has to do is add a message() above GameMovieFinished() |
| 22:56.09 | Semlar | that's it |
| 22:56.30 | Mr_Rabies | okay no i'm not getting that, but people were saying their command table was broken |
| 22:56.47 | Mr_Rabies | i figured you were getting it at the command table, but you're in IF |
| 22:56.48 | Simca | <NuSuey> Simca: oh :o was afk,sry ..well I tried MovieFrame_OnMovieFinished(MovieFrame); ...still the same effect ..http://pastebin.com/vn44gxhP ..am I doing something wrong? |
| 22:56.48 | Simca | <Simca> NuSuey: i'm confused; if your purpose is to stop the movie from playing |
| 22:56.48 | Simca | <Simca> then wouldn't you just delete lines 2-6 of that code? |
| 22:56.48 | Mr_Rabies | O_o |
| 22:57.00 | Simca | Semlar: ^ |
| 22:57.08 | Semlar | don't tell him to use :Hide on the frame or whatever |
| 22:57.10 | Semlar | that is a bad idea |
| 22:57.17 | NuSuey | Semlar: you know I'm here.. but I have just a uber-tiny-knowledge of everything |
| 22:57.28 | Semlar | just do this http://pastebin.com/D25JCisF |
| 22:58.06 | Semlar | if you don't call the blizzard functions directly to clean up the cinematic you're just asking for trouble |
| 22:58.33 | Simca | he said that that doesn't stop the sound from playing, Semlar |
| 22:58.39 | Primer | WTF!? Rain of Fire's damage has been reduced by 60% and no longer generates Burning Embers. |
| 22:58.47 | Simca | that's why i had him override the function that begins the cinematics in the first place |
| 22:58.53 | Simca | sound kits are nasty to deal with |
| 22:59.06 | Semlar | what sound |
| 22:59.11 | Simca | the sound from the movie |
| 22:59.13 | Semlar | this is the exact code i use and it skips the cinematic completely |
| 22:59.40 | Simca | guess he used it wrong then |
| 22:59.51 | Semlar | i have zero indication that there was a cinematic unless i print something |
| 23:00.02 | Simca | also is message() a real function? |
| 23:00.08 | Semlar | i think it's a blizzard function |
| 23:00.15 | Simca | huh |
| 23:00.19 | Semlar | it brings up a dialog box with an Okay button |
| 23:00.32 | Semlar | like alert() in javascript |
| 23:00.50 | Simca | you'd think that would be documented better on the wiki |
| 23:01.19 | Simca | roflmao |
| 23:01.25 | Simca | 19227 just got rolled back |
| 23:01.58 | NuSuey | Semlar: damn it.. |
| 23:02.03 | Simca | i will like to see the battle.net recover from this. |
| 23:02.35 | NuSuey | Semlar seems to be working as you said .. I just had some stupid shit in here before :/ |
| 23:02.46 | mikma | http://pbrd.co/1xBPGvN |
| 23:02.50 | mikma | boom! Incompatible ;D |
| 23:03.29 | Semlar | the CinematicFrame:HookScript part is for a different kind of cinematic so if you want that to alert something too you should add a message there too |
| 23:03.33 | Simca | wow it did a surprisingly good job; i guess that's an advantage of never garbage collecting |
| 23:03.38 | Simca | old data |
| 23:04.39 | Semlar | just change ... in the function arguments to id and add message(id) somewhere |
| 23:04.40 | NuSuey | Semlar: perfect.. perfect perfect :) |
| 23:05.11 | Semlar | i gotta go, 23 skidoo! |
| 23:05.20 | NuSuey | i did put an if for each the strings I'm searching and it's working |
| 23:05.38 | NuSuey | Semlar: after midnight here ) |
| 23:05.48 | NuSuey | gn Semlar |
| 23:06.07 | Semlar | one more thing, the IsShiftKeyDown stuff is to prevent it from stopping the cinematic while you're holding shift so if you don't want that just remove it |
| 23:06.50 | Semlar | i would recommend leaving it in if you know a cinematic is coming up that you don't want to skip |
| 23:07.20 | NuSuey | Semlar: well for my use..it's not useful ..but I'll talk to you later :) |
| 23:09.07 | NuSuey | you and Simca ..thanks for everything.. so many helpful and awesome people in here ..:) |
| 23:13.43 | NuSuey | well I should thank everyone for the past days / week or so.. should probably buy a book about lua coding instead of asking for help and googling stuff |
| 23:18.52 | Neffi | begins fusing Semlar's atomic nuclei together |
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| 23:45.12 | Dagmar | Looks like some unhappy-time server maintenance is going on |
| 23:47.35 | Dagmar | Nevermind, just the client losing it's mind due to a hotfix |
