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| 00:09.23 | fewyn | where has all the rum gone? |
| 00:11.52 | zenzelezz | mostly consumed |
| 00:28.54 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/EM37HfS.jpg |
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| 00:47.44 | TC-Work | http://gizmodo.com/nasas-about-to-release-a-mother-lode-of-free-software-1558491761 |
| 00:58.55 | Neffi | Sweet, now my plan to live on Mars can come to fruition |
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| 01:10.07 | Neffi | If I was as unstable as anything Nexus I don't think I'd be allowed to roam free |
| 01:10.19 | Neffi | Their damned mod manager just trashed my Skyrim installation |
| 01:10.35 | Semlar | free range neffi |
| 01:10.51 | Neffi | a healthy neffi is a tasty neffi |
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| 02:00.04 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/CJIjIaG.jpg |
| 02:00.07 | znf | now we wait! |
| 02:00.23 | Gethe | yup |
| 02:00.51 | znf | also, I need gigabit, clearly |
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| 02:07.53 | karl_w_w | so is the new archive format screwing with datamining or is it going ok? |
| 02:08.26 | karl_w_w | and, more importantly, does the new format screw with replacing files? |
| 02:10.06 | fewyn | i dont think we will be able to do model replacements anymore |
| 02:10.08 | fewyn | i think |
| 02:10.14 | fewyn | also new datamining is going |
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| 02:10.22 | fewyn | it's totally new format |
| 02:10.27 | fewyn | similiar to heroes tho |
| 02:10.31 | fewyn | not the same |
| 02:10.43 | fewyn | from what the blog pot said |
| 02:10.45 | fewyn | post |
| 02:11.55 | karl_w_w | ah yes I see Bibi is streaming the whole exciting process |
| 02:16.12 | fewyn | such excite |
| 02:16.16 | fewyn | many extract |
| 02:16.21 | fewyn | so mining |
| 02:16.37 | znf | just a matter of time until someone figures out the file format |
| 02:16.52 | znf | and model replacement is a memory hack, not a file hack, afaik? |
| 02:17.03 | znf | karl_w_w was referring to the sound file replacement, for example |
| 02:17.09 | znf | I doubt that's going away |
| 02:17.20 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 02:17.34 | pompy | znf: so why they labeling it Beta when they announced Alpha? /confused! |
| 02:17.43 | znf | pompy, yeah |
| 02:18.50 | karl_w_w | because if you announce beta the unwashed masses expect an invite |
| 02:19.02 | karl_w_w | but technically it is a beta because it's not internal |
| 02:19.03 | pompy | lol |
| 02:19.22 | pompy | is it acting as a separate install? Id hope so lol. |
| 02:19.27 | fewyn | because it's easier to call it beta |
| 02:19.28 | pompy | from live |
| 02:19.33 | fewyn | yes |
| 02:19.39 | fewyn | it's a whole new download atm |
| 02:19.50 | fewyn | doesn't convert from live install yet |
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| 02:23.16 | fewyn | AH_EXACT_MATCH_TOOLTIP:: Checking this box will cause the search results to be only those items that exactly match the search text. |
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| 02:23.28 | fewyn | and an angel finally earned his wings |
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| 02:26.48 | Gethe | SHOW_HD_MODELS_TEXT:: Show New Character Models |
| 02:28.05 | Gethe | SPELL_FAILED_TARGET_HAS_RESURRECT_PENDING:: Target has a resurrection pending |
| 02:28.10 | Gethe | thank you |
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| 02:54.01 | Gethe | exportinterfacefiles console commands don't work :( nothing happens |
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| 03:10.45 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 03:10.45 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml . |
| 03:10.55 | Neffi | See the last link |
| 03:10.59 | Neffi | There is a download |
| 03:11.05 | Neffi | Gethe: ^ |
| 03:11.52 | Neffi | Also you have to use it on the login screen, not the in-game /console command; and you have to specify the argument "code" or "art" |
| 03:12.00 | Gethe | i mean in the alpha client |
| 03:12.10 | Gethe | i know how to do it |
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| 03:12.26 | Neffi | Ah, I didnt know the alpha client was available. Cool beans. |
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| 03:12.45 | Alram | it simply doesnt work |
| 03:12.49 | Gethe | yup |
| 03:12.51 | Alram | which is normal |
| 03:12.57 | Gethe | :( |
| 03:12.59 | Alram | because alpha |
| 03:13.16 | Neffi | I understand a lot of their reasoning behind the changes and definitely agree with them, but a few changes honestly made me say "fuck this". I hope by late beta they reverse some decisions |
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| 03:21.24 | Sintacks | local IsInGuild, IsInGroup = _G.IsInGuild, _G.IsInGroup |
| 03:21.24 | Sintacks | local UnitInParty, UnitInRaid = _G.UnitInParty, _G.UnitInRaid |
| 03:21.27 | Sintacks | i still don't get the point of that |
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| 03:38.08 | Arrowmaster | it makes it faster later |
| 03:38.36 | Arrowmaster | its fixed in lua 5.2 |
| 03:41.43 | Sintacks | fixed how? |
| 03:41.50 | Sintacks | and what version of lua is wow using? |
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| 03:43.20 | Clamsoda | Does ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter() automatically return chat values back if you didn't return false? I tested it and it does; but I just want to make sure. |
| 03:43.35 | Clamsoda | If you didn't return true*** |
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| 04:07.12 | Neffi | <Arrowmaster> its fixed in lua 5.2 <- by what? (I don't think it's "fixed") |
| 04:07.17 | Neffi | Sintacks: also don't do it |
| 04:07.39 | Arrowmaster | the need to do that for tight loops is fixed |
| 04:07.45 | Neffi | The difference in speed is non-existent, and it makes it impossible to hook. Just dont do it |
| 04:08.02 | Arrowmaster | it can be noticeable |
| 04:08.31 | Neffi | If you're working with an insanely large data set maybe |
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| 04:09.01 | Neffi | The difference is small but just barely noticeable if you're doing enough computation to lock up WoW, which you shouldnt |
| 04:09.27 | Neffi | Also I'm curious how it's fixed in 5.2, because I've seen nothing related to this in 5.2 |
| 04:11.29 | Neffi | I think you might be confusing the wording of the treatment of closures, which is unrelated (Lua 5.2 won't construct a new closure if it's not visibly different from an existing one, eg: for i = 1,1000 do print( (function() return 'hi' end)() ) end -- one closure created) |
| 04:13.01 | Arrowmaster | the entire global variable lookup was reworked |
| 04:13.13 | Neffi | Ohh, right |
| 04:13.57 | Neffi | Yes, so now accessing a global is just syntactic sugar for _ENV[globalname] where _ENV is local. But you still have a table lookup there, which is almost as expensive as the old getglobal op was |
| 04:14.08 | Neffi | So the micro-optimization is still as pertinent as it was I'd say |
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| 04:15.43 | Arrowmaster | the table lookup is faster than a global lookup in 5.1 |
| 04:15.44 | Sintacks | oh god what did I start |
| 04:15.50 | Sintacks | lol |
| 04:16.01 | Sintacks | now to find that bit of code i had to fix realm names with spaces ... |
| 04:16.18 | Neffi | A nice perk for anyone who didn't do the optimization mentioned, but that would make it faster in 5.2 still |
| 04:16.24 | kd3|netbook | whee, cracking a WEP key to get online since I don't get cell service out here |
| 04:16.29 | Neffi | Anyway Sintacks, WoW uses (a slightly modified) 5.1 |
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| 04:16.54 | Sintacks | if (addon:IsPromoted() or 0) > 1 and not IsInGroup(LE_PARTY_CATEGORY_INSTANCE) then |
| 04:16.54 | Sintacks | --SendChatMessage(L["<oRA3> Disbanding group."], IsInRaid() and "RAID" or "PARTY") |
| 04:17.00 | Sintacks | I have to do that every time he updates oRA3 <>< |
| 04:17.01 | Sintacks | <.<* |
| 04:17.17 | Sintacks | cuz i don't like announcing that i'm disbanding the group |
| 04:17.20 | Semlar | locks up neffi |
| 04:17.30 | Sintacks | deletes Semlar's pet |
| 04:17.36 | Semlar | CITIZEN SNIPS NOOOOOO |
| 04:17.40 | Neffi | not citizen snips! |
| 04:18.10 | Sintacks | local amount = math.floor(GetAverageItemLevel()) or 300 -- vhaarr am so smrt.. ?! |
| 04:18.10 | Sintacks | wat |
| 04:18.29 | Neffi | Submit a patch that makes that configurable, then |
| 04:18.51 | Sintacks | lol |
| 04:18.57 | Sintacks | he'd never add it |
| 04:19.31 | Neffi | checks the author of oRA3. |
| 04:19.36 | Neffi | he seems reasonable enough |
| 04:20.00 | Sintacks | he always ignores me :| |
| 04:20.11 | Sintacks | well. one of them does |
| 04:20.13 | Arrowmaster | is he ever on irc anymore? |
| 04:20.18 | Sintacks | nebula169 is cool though |
| 04:20.21 | Sintacks | gave me something once |
| 04:20.23 | Sintacks | what was it |
| 04:20.28 | Thunder_Child | The D? |
| 04:20.36 | Sintacks | oh. raid marks to put into chat prints |
| 04:20.39 | Sintacks | from combatlog |
| 04:20.44 | Neffi | I havent seen funk on, but neb I've seen around. Maybe he's too busy to write it himself, hence submit a patch |
| 04:21.01 | Sintacks | oRA3 is not compatible with oRA2, and never will be. |
| 04:21.10 | Sintacks | but it uses oRA2's addon comm prefix :() |
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| 04:42.07 | Sintacks | so who is going to have their "UnStatSquish" addon ready when 6.0 releases? |
| 04:42.08 | Sintacks | lol |
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| 05:12.57 | karl_w_w | lame people Sintacks |
| 05:13.01 | karl_w_w | LAME PEOPLE! |
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| 06:10.27 | Neffi | sad http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/suit-challenging-drone-strikes-that-killed-americans-16-year-old-boy-is-tossed/ |
| 06:20.29 | Dagmar | Killed across the glove? |
| 06:20.49 | Dagmar | I guess they're not using kid gloves anymore if it's killing people. |
| 06:23.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:28.40 | Neffi | lol pwnd Semlar |
| 06:28.56 | Semlar | why does everything try to eat me |
| 06:29.37 | Neffi | <_< |
| 06:30.10 | Semlar | :l |
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| 06:59.31 | Shirik | Mazda is issuing a recall |
| 06:59.39 | Shirik | because spiders might be living inside of fuel tanks |
| 06:59.49 | Shirik | this is awesome by itself, but this is the SECOND time they've done this |
| 07:00.59 | karl_w_w | try to watch a youtube video -> even the fucking ad won't load |
| 07:01.14 | pelf | there are ads on Youtube? |
| 07:02.02 | karl_w_w | endless ads |
| 07:02.22 | Shirik | what do you mean "there are ads on youtube?" |
| 07:02.25 | Shirik | how do you not know this o.o |
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| 07:03.19 | pelf | ABP! |
| 07:03.53 | pelf | i've considered blocking them on my router, but haven't gotten around to going that far |
| 07:08.26 | Shirik | choosing to ignore for a moment how much I hate ABP |
| 07:08.34 | Shirik | I thought that wouldn't work on youtube |
| 07:08.41 | Shirik | doesn't it just sit there waiting for the video forever? |
| 07:08.46 | Shirik | that's what I would do if I was google |
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| 07:09.05 | Wimpsy | there we go |
| 07:09.11 | Wimpsy | i accidentally had 3 irc clients open, what the hell |
| 07:09.12 | pelf | nope |
| 07:09.30 | pelf | amusingly, as well, several content distribution sites for various networks also gracefully resume the program after the ad can't be loaded |
| 07:10.01 | pelf | watching Bates Motel on A&E's site last season ... i never saw a single commercial |
| 07:10.20 | pelf | why the ire for ABP, Shirik? |
| 07:10.50 | Shirik | because I don't believe in stealing |
| 07:11.44 | pelf | ah; well, for the sites i frequent, if they have a premium option i almost always pay up |
| 07:12.11 | pelf | what i don't like is just opening doors to malicious code |
| 07:12.23 | pelf | i guess if i didn't use ABP, i'd have to use NoScript |
| 07:12.36 | Wimpsy | i use both cause im paranoid :( |
| 07:12.50 | pelf | i tried that for a while and almost lost it |
| 07:12.59 | Wimpsy | how come? |
| 07:13.33 | pelf | well, i think NS made more sense when AJAX wasn't around or was in its infancy |
| 07:13.57 | pelf | almost every significant site, at this point, is greatly diminished without JS; so, that's a lot of "allow" clicks |
| 07:14.11 | Neffi | I managed to track down the cause of 100% of malware infections, and accidental installations of unwanted crap, on computers of friends and family. What was it? Ads telling them to download/click/run/etc. |
| 07:14.29 | Neffi | ABP is a safety precaution |
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| 07:14.38 | pelf | Neffi: oh yeah, i install that on anyone's computer i am working on |
| 07:15.11 | pelf | not everyone's going to have a browser running in a VM that doesn't preserve its state upon restart :) |
| 07:15.23 | Neffi | On a side note I don't really get side money for fixing the same computers constantly since installing ABP on them all, so meh |
| 07:15.28 | Trela | "Please don't use Advertisement Blocker." Don't run advertisements that spread virus, thanks, the users. |
| 07:15.39 | Trela | *viruses |
| 07:16.15 | pelf | i figured the users were Russian |
| 07:16.36 | Neffi | I'm all for whitelisting if you can guarantee that the ads are not going to contain malware, and are not going to be maliciously misleading to uninformed users. But most sites can't. |
| 07:16.54 | pelf | nods |
| 07:16.59 | pelf | all the google text ads come through for me |
| 07:17.04 | pelf | i'm absolutely fine with that |
| 07:17.19 | Shirik | I'm going to go suddenly off-topic for a second: anyone here use sibelius and a DAW (like ableton live)? |
| 07:17.27 | Shirik | now back to your regularly scheduled programming |
| 07:17.36 | Neffi | lol shirik |
| 07:17.57 | pelf | a WYSIWYG scorewriting program... |
| 07:17.59 | pelf | that's interesting |
| 07:18.00 | Shirik | I can't get sibelius to hook up to ableton and I have no idea why :( |
| 07:18.46 | pelf | hmm, well sibelius is Finnish and ableton is German |
| 07:19.15 | Shirik | that must be it :P |
| 07:20.02 | pelf | he looks like a serious fellow: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jean_sibelius.jpg |
| 07:20.28 | mikma | maybe, his music was serious also |
| 07:20.32 | Trela | Shirik: I have no idea so I Googled something you probably already read: http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/how_to/en433995 |
| 07:20.47 | mikma | pelf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c |
| 07:21.03 | Shirik | yeah I've been following their FAQs but the options just aren't appearing |
| 07:22.12 | Trela | ...Turn it off and turn it back on again! REBOOT! *Smacks chest.* |
| 07:22.34 | pelf | does the word "Rewire" mean anything to you? |
| 07:23.02 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:23.23 | pelf | i see people referring to that when talking about sibelius and ableton |
| 07:23.47 | Shirik | yeah Live is a rewire master |
| 07:23.55 | Shirik | it's just a protocol, nothing more |
| 07:23.56 | pelf | http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=443674&groupid=3&&guest=1 |
| 07:24.03 | Shirik | standard across the industry |
| 07:27.34 | mikma | this part 2 in Finlandia is sooooo gooooooooood |
| 07:27.49 | Shirik | omg weird |
| 07:27.53 | Shirik | pelf: that might have helped though |
| 07:28.02 | Shirik | I didn't realize it but it looks like my Live install is a 32 bit process |
| 07:28.10 | Shirik | and Sibelius is definitely 64-bit |
| 07:28.30 | pelf | mikma: this is ... hmm. it's got some homogeneity that i wasn't expecting; sounds like a cross between a national anthem a marching song and ... well, other classical composers |
| 07:28.39 | pelf | @Shirik: hooray google-fu |
| 07:28.54 | Shirik | why the fuck is it installing 32-bit |
| 07:28.55 | Trela | Shirik: That's silly. Windows bit incompatibility? |
| 07:29.02 | pelf | wait, is homogeneity the same as homogenousness? |
| 07:29.11 | pelf | one of those isn't a word i think |
| 07:29.21 | Shirik | Trela: I think it's because of the way rewire works |
| 07:29.58 | Shirik | effectively it's a driver comprised two halves of code, one from the master and one from the slave; and having 32-bit and 64-bit code in the same driver seems incredibly dangerous |
| 07:30.22 | pelf | i suppose it depends on how it uses memory |
| 07:30.46 | Trela | I am just used to OS X's ability to not give a shit and 32 talking to 64 without issue. >_> |
| 07:31.31 | pelf | well, windows has similar facilities ... no program has actual access to memory addresses anymore |
| 07:31.38 | pelf | everything's abstracted |
| 07:31.40 | Shirik | yup, it's in Ableton's FAQ too :( |
| 07:31.53 | Shirik | https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/64bit-myths-facts/ Can I use ReWire with the 64-bit version of Live? Yes, ReWire (with Live as either master or slave) works properly, but can only be used when ReWired to another application that is also 64-bit. |
| 07:32.05 | mikma | pelf: well, did you read the description in the youtube link? :) |
| 07:32.57 | mikma | pelf: also, http://youtu.be/F5zg_af9b8c?t=4m did you listen to this part? :D |
| 07:33.01 | Shirik | Trela: Yeah, but if the same application was both 32 and 64 bit, you would have a problem |
| 07:33.09 | Shirik | that's effectively what's happening here |
| 07:33.12 | Trela | nods. |
| 07:33.14 | mikma | pelf: from that point to the end :) |
| 07:33.23 | Trela | I understand Windows effectively sandboxes them. |
| 07:33.33 | pelf | mikma: i have done, now; i listened to all of Finlandia; i'm checking out The Swan of Tuonela now |
| 07:34.08 | mikma | pelf: "his hymn, with words written in 1941 by Veikko Antero Koskenniemi, is one of the most important national songs of Finland (though Maamme is the national anthem)." -> see the end of Die Hard 2 (Directed by finnish director Renny Harlin ;) |
| 07:34.25 | pelf | nods |
| 07:34.44 | pelf | this swan one is ... evocative |
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| 07:36.03 | mikma | pelf: lol, swan of tuonela (svan of... valhalla? i guess) |
| 07:36.20 | mikma | underworld apparently |
| 07:36.25 | mikma | "mythical place where all people go after the death" |
| 07:36.31 | pelf | mmm, i wonder what i'd be like if i never saw Fantasia as a kid |
| 07:38.04 | mikma | i've never had a big taste for classical/etc music for some reason |
| 07:38.11 | mikma | but i'm always open for any genres |
| 07:38.38 | mikma | sure, i hate rap mostly, but there are yet some good songs out there that i can listen to |
| 07:38.52 | mikma | pelf: which reminded me! wait a sec |
| 07:40.03 | mikma | pelf: seen this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LGVGekPSzo - might be worth the time ;) |
| 07:40.26 | pelf | ha: The uploader has not made this video available in your country. |
| 07:40.32 | pelf | quel dommage :( |
| 07:40.41 | pelf | i suppose i could get one of those addons... |
| 07:40.42 | mikma | https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/1LGVGekPSzo |
| 07:40.47 | mikma | how about that link |
| 07:40.56 | pelf | ha; parfait |
| 07:41.11 | mikma | hmm, no |
| 07:41.42 | mikma | ok, how about... http://www.riemurasia.net/rasiatube/view.php?id=81013 ? :P |
| 07:42.07 | pelf | well, that gapi one loaded |
| 07:42.11 | pelf | was that the wrong one? |
| 07:42.34 | mikma | it's the rigjt one |
| 07:42.45 | pelf | listening |
| 07:43.07 | pelf | oh lame; the still loaded but then i got the country error again; checking other link |
| 07:43.24 | pelf | same; i'd probaby have to proxy through wherever its' ok |
| 07:43.40 | mikma | hmm |
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| 07:44.27 | mikma | pelf: ok, this? doesn't have the introduction at the start tho; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsIuUpYg7yA |
| 07:45.10 | mikma | pelf: idea: Sir Anthony Hopkins composed that song 50 years ago, before he became an actor |
| 07:45.10 | pelf | works; listening |
| 07:48.22 | Wimpsy | it was good |
| 07:48.25 | Wimpsy | i heard that a few days ago |
| 07:48.31 | Wimpsy | genuinely enjoyed it |
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| 07:49.27 | mikma | aye, same |
| 07:49.39 | pelf | this one's got a hollowness to it |
| 07:49.41 | pelf | less warmth |
| 07:49.57 | pelf | maybe its' just more brass... i don't know |
| 07:50.17 | mikma | well the fact is it's not a happy song |
| 07:50.27 | Wimpsy | could be the electric element to it maybe |
| 07:50.44 | Wimpsy | i dont listen to enough of that genre though, so i dont know |
| 07:50.50 | mikma | requires more skrillex |
| 07:50.53 | Shirik | mikma: that's a really nice song |
| 07:50.58 | Wimpsy | but im fairly sure they're plugged in |
| 07:51.19 | pelf | mikma: i guess it's not; i'm used to sad classical being dolorous, aching, regretful |
| 07:51.21 | pelf | this one is more... |
| 07:51.33 | pelf | being unable to avert one's destiny |
| 07:51.36 | pelf | giving in to it |
| 07:51.54 | Wimpsy | good though |
| 07:52.06 | mikma | pelf: how about some harp-music ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPb20fK0R94 |
| 07:52.27 | pelf | oh hells no; i just started up moonlight sonata |
| 07:52.35 | pelf | my next 15 minutes are booked |
| 07:52.50 | mikma | lol |
| 07:53.29 | Wimpsy | all my chrome extensions got cleared just now, what the hell :o |
| 07:54.58 | pelf | sync? |
| 07:55.00 | Wimpsy | all my bookmarks too |
| 07:55.06 | Wimpsy | its like all my settings were cleared |
| 07:55.08 | Wimpsy | what the hell |
| 07:55.14 | pelf | does chrome have profiles like firefox? |
| 07:55.18 | Wimpsy | i dont sync over any devices |
| 07:55.22 | Wimpsy | it might, let me check |
| 07:55.35 | pelf | maybe it thinks you are syncing and something else was more authoritative? idk |
| 07:55.46 | Krevan88 | Anyone able to help me with uploading/updating my addon on Curse? I don't really know what I am doing. First update since initial upload. |
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| 07:56.52 | Wimpsy | i have no idea what happened, this is sad |
| 07:57.03 | Wimpsy | it was fine just like 2 minutes ago |
| 07:57.05 | Wimpsy | then i restarted it |
| 07:57.44 | pelf | recently i had firefox completely nix ALL the saved tabs i had; like .. 6 months of saved tabs |
| 07:57.47 | pelf | that was distressing |
| 07:57.59 | Wimpsy | it's killed everything, all my settings |
| 07:58.17 | pelf | well that's shitty |
| 07:58.41 | Wimpsy | yep |
| 07:58.48 | Wimpsy | i had like 30 extensions too |
| 07:58.54 | Wimpsy | annoying |
| 07:59.13 | pelf | do you know where all that stuff is stored on disk? |
| 07:59.19 | pelf | i haven't a clue for chrome, but i definitely know for firefox |
| 07:59.51 | Wimpsy | think so... im gonna check it |
| 08:00.48 | Wimpsy | it's all in there i think |
| 08:00.51 | Wimpsy | what the fuck |
| 08:01.29 | Wimpsy | yea i found them, but chrome doesn't seem to be reading them |
| 08:02.27 | pelf | i'm so not a fan of how flippin' black-box chrome is |
| 08:02.45 | Wimpsy | i know |
| 08:02.51 | Wimpsy | but i dont know an alternative that suits me |
| 08:03.07 | Wimpsy | i tried waterfox, firefox, pale moon and a bunch of other firefox based ones |
| 08:03.37 | Wimpsy | i tried opera too, and that cloud based one |
| 08:03.40 | Wimpsy | whatever it was called |
| 08:03.44 | pelf | what don't you like about firefox? |
| 08:03.59 | Wimpsy | its not that i dont like it |
| 08:04.04 | Wimpsy | it's that i dont like it as much as chrome |
| 08:04.16 | Wimpsy | i used to use firefox before i even switched to chrome |
| 08:04.29 | Wimpsy | maxthon was the cloud browser |
| 08:05.02 | Wimpsy | i originally switched from firefox because of a memory leak it had years ago |
| 08:05.08 | pelf | nods |
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| 08:05.11 | Dagmar | maxthon was a shell game |
| 08:05.39 | pelf | what's kept me with Firefox is Firebug and the fact that i can actually configure it |
| 08:05.53 | pelf | about:config is awesome |
| 08:06.10 | Wimpsy | yep |
| 08:06.51 | Wimpsy | well all my bookmarks and stuff returned |
| 08:08.32 | Wimpsy | seems chrome messed with my preferences file |
| 08:09.21 | Wimpsy | there's a table in there that might've been wiped i guess |
| 08:10.24 | pelf | hooray |
| 08:10.42 | Wimpsy | i know right |
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| 08:21.56 | Shirik | well, pelf, at least I'm getting closer |
| 08:22.03 | Shirik | this time when I opened sibelius I got this http://gyazo.com/4b2cf4e9fff804889d8bc43d12be8877 :P |
| 08:22.14 | Wimpsy | im going berserk |
| 08:22.28 | Wimpsy | i fixed the table but it still won't read my extensions |
| 08:23.24 | pelf | cheers at Shirik |
| 08:30.02 | Wimpsy | woo |
| 08:30.20 | Wimpsy | apparently my google account had it all stored and could sync it |
| 08:30.31 | Wimpsy | even though i've never actually synced my browser anywhere |
| 08:30.31 | pelf | the cloud saves the day |
| 08:30.39 | Wimpsy | involuntary cloud |
| 08:31.02 | Wimpsy | but im willing to close my eyes and cover my ears as long as my extensions stay safe |
| 08:32.42 | Shirik | pelf: less cheering now :( |
| 08:32.52 | pelf | frowns |
| 08:33.36 | Shirik | actually |
| 08:33.37 | Shirik | wait |
| 08:33.39 | Shirik | more cheering! |
| 08:33.48 | Shirik | I hosed something up but they're definitely talking to each other |
| 08:34.02 | Shirik | if I move to the third measure, for example, sibelius jumps there too |
| 08:34.13 | Shirik | but the instruments aren't showing up for some reason in live |
| 08:34.24 | Shirik | but at least I know they're connected so yay |
| 08:35.28 | pelf | bows |
| 08:35.36 | pelf | what would i do without google |
| 08:38.17 | Neffi | use yahoo? |
| 08:38.25 | Shirik | no |
| 08:38.27 | Shirik | yahoo is terrible |
| 08:38.42 | Neffi | Is anything that's not Google good? |
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| 08:38.54 | pelf | well, there's that one that's private .. um what is it |
| 08:39.07 | Neffi | Duck Duck Go? |
| 08:39.14 | Neffi | I think it just syndicates Google |
| 08:39.20 | pelf | is that right? hmm |
| 08:39.34 | pelf | have you ever tried using Bing to look up technical topics? |
| 08:39.59 | pelf | it's like a blindfolded, epileptic duck in tar with a hand on the microsoft site links 24/7 |
| 08:40.13 | Neffi | Bing is terrible |
| 08:40.41 | pelf | i don't even know what it thinks i'm typing, honestly |
| 08:40.47 | pelf | i check it out from time to time for the humor |
| 08:41.39 | Neffi | It's the default on my friend's computer, and I'm usually too lazy to type "google.com" right away. I almost always end up needing to though |
| 08:43.28 | fewyn | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109592 |
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| 08:43.30 | fewyn | heh |
| 08:43.31 | fewyn | corki |
| 08:44.31 | pelf | wod. redirects to www. for me |
| 08:44.33 | pelf | no page |
| 08:47.47 | Neffi | same |
| 08:48.41 | fewyn | hrm |
| 08:49.49 | fewyn | should be fixed in one sec pelf Neffi |
| 08:49.56 | fewyn | we forgot to click the public enable button |
| 08:49.57 | fewyn | durrr |
| 08:50.04 | fewyn | it's been a long night |
| 08:50.28 | pelf | THROW TEH SWITCH! |
| 08:50.49 | fewyn | there we go |
| 08:50.54 | fewyn | switch is thrown |
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| 08:51.13 | fewyn | http://wod.wowhead.com/search?q=date%3A2014-04-05 ignore all the mop stuff |
| 08:57.03 | pelf | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=109601 |
| 09:00.03 | pelf | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=155485 <- tasty |
| 09:13.01 | Wobin | hum |
| 09:13.10 | Wobin | Anyone have any links to info on writing addons for ESO? |
| 09:13.20 | Wobin | glances at Cairenn |
| 09:13.37 | Cairenn | http://www.esoui.com/community.php |
| 09:13.49 | Cairenn | http://wiki.esoui.com/Main_Page |
| 09:13.51 | Wobin | hugs Cairenn |
| 09:13.54 | Wobin | whee |
| 09:14.00 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 09:14.06 | Wobin | ta muchly |
| 09:14.10 | pelf | Wobin: Wedbwest |
| 09:14.18 | pelf | well, minus the colon my script added |
| 09:14.34 | Cairenn | #esouidev |
| 09:14.35 | Wobin | almost =) |
| 09:14.45 | Wobin | technically Wobin d'Wonderdog, but that works too |
| 09:15.03 | Shirik | Cairenn: why are you awake |
| 09:15.04 | pelf | dw is a tricky dipthong |
| 09:15.14 | Cairenn | because I'm not asleep? |
| 09:15.15 | Wimpsy | that feeling when you've just lost a battle in ff7 without saving for a while ;_; |
| 09:15.21 | Shirik | you should sleep more |
| 09:15.24 | Shirik | it's like 5 AM there |
| 09:15.30 | Cairenn | yup |
| 09:19.27 | Gnarfoz | wtb more bandwidth for WoD downloadings |
| 09:19.36 | Gnarfoz | (and le flag on le account) |
| 09:38.04 | Krevan88 | Any suggestions for a better LUA editor than Notepad++? |
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| 09:54.30 | nevcairiel | Krevan88: i've written all my addons with notepad++ |
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| 10:39.44 | Gnarfoz | also needs a definition of "better" - what don't you like about it? |
| 10:40.40 | Wimpsy | i love notepad++, the only other one i know of is Sublime Text but I'm fairly sure that's not free |
| 10:40.56 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 10:41.00 | Wimpsy | and i dont know how good it is for lua |
| 10:41.05 | Wimpsy | yeah thought so |
| 11:06.53 | VIad | I hope authors get beta key like before, I shmell addons gonna need updating! |
| 11:11.00 | VIad | I enjoy the item names being descriptions where they drop :D |
| 11:11.13 | VIad | "6.0 Dungeon - Arokka - Boss 1 - Loot 1 - Str 2H Sword" |
| 11:12.04 | Gnarfoz | yes... very new, this. |
| 11:12.12 | Gnarfoz | (...except, not) |
| 11:14.12 | VIad | I just haven't bothered to look yet |
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| 11:28.45 | Gnarfoz | no, I mean, it's like this all the time with new content patches |
| 11:30.33 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:30.43 | nevcairiel | if you get into early beta, they are even called like that still when they drop ingame |
| 11:33.04 | Gnarfoz | same on ptr, do you think they have separate names for sitting around in the data files and the playable thing? ^^ |
| 11:33.21 | Gnarfoz | gotta finish reading these 6.0 patch notes, or I'll never play Wildstar this weekend, lol |
| 11:36.43 | nevcairiel | somehow i'm totally not excited for wildstar |
| 11:40.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm still getting my hype up, still not decided :P |
| 11:40.55 | Gnarfoz | quitting WoW after 9 years is not the most likely thing to happen, but it might ;p |
| 11:43.29 | nevcairiel | i realize i've only played a couple hours through the first levels in a beta, but right now i would probably have more fun leveling a new wow character :d |
| 11:43.48 | Gnarfoz | nothin wrong with that, either :D |
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| 12:22.07 | VIad | I think I rank mop as the lowpoint of my expansion excitement :( |
| 12:39.55 | VIad | what does it asay at "FAR__LOHN" http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/april/Draenor.jpg ? |
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| 12:41.10 | VIad | awesome |
| 12:41.11 | VIad | http://beta.wowdb.com/items/108745-personal-hologram |
| 12:41.37 | VIad | You think this is the real Quaid? *Ha ha ha* It is. *BRAAAP!* |
| 12:43.13 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: what was your python stormlib mpq dbc... prjoect (:D) 's name again? |
| 12:49.58 | nevcairiel | python-mpq? pywow? just browse in his github projects |
| 12:50.24 | Gnarfoz | good idea |
| 12:50.49 | nevcairiel | did someone post a tool for the new file format yet? |
| 12:51.13 | Gnarfoz | no idea, but since they're already mining away... they're probably using whatever they used for HotS |
| 12:51.38 | nevcairiel | guess that makes sense |
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| 12:54.56 | nevcairiel | i really think the vanilla login screen looks really fitting for wod :p |
| 12:59.05 | VIad | no one else knows the reference? http://beta.wowdb.com/items/108745 |
| 13:00.13 | nevcairiel | original total recall, big deal |
| 13:04.59 | VIad | I was afraid that either people were too young to get it, or too old and had forgotten about it :P |
| 13:06.58 | Gnarfoz | perhaps if you had said "haha, anyone remember this?" except just pasting something... well "no reaction" is the most likely reaction |
| 13:07.18 | VIad | :D |
| 13:07.29 | Gnarfoz | also, look at the clock, it's dark-o-clock for the americans |
| 13:07.36 | Gnarfoz | well, for some =D |
| 13:07.48 | nevcairiel | its like 9 in the morning on the east coast |
| 13:08.02 | Gnarfoz | that's what I'm referring to |
| 13:25.56 | Fisker | asdfgsfds nevcairiel |
| 13:26.41 | Fisker | i think the name is referenced in tbc VIad |
| 13:26.44 | Fisker | so you can probably find it |
| 13:27.06 | Fisker | yeah |
| 13:27.08 | Fisker | farahlon |
| 13:27.37 | Fisker | devs can't spell |
| 13:27.40 | Fisker | n00bs |
| 13:27.56 | VIad | :p |
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| 13:29.00 | VIad | anyone proficient with visual studio 2013 and sharepoint 2013 (office 365)? just got a quick question if you used it :) |
| 13:29.22 | Fisker | take your arms |
| 13:29.24 | Fisker | err |
| 13:29.25 | Fisker | fingers |
| 13:29.27 | Fisker | then cross them |
| 13:29.38 | VIad | you mean take your faith and pray? |
| 13:29.42 | Fisker | no |
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| 14:12.01 | karl_w_w | I've worked out why no MMO ever killed wow, it's because MMOs are an inherently crap genre, people just dont notice cos new MMOs have exciting newness |
| 14:14.09 | karl_w_w | I've also come up with an amazing joke: if you're really upset by self-harm jokes, I have a razor blade you can borrow |
| 14:14.11 | Gnarfoz | sounds legit |
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| 14:51.13 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: thats why i havent played an mmo since i quit wow |
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| 15:16.54 | karl_w_w | i don't understand the WoD map |
| 15:17.21 | karl_w_w | isn't this supposed to be before draenor was mostly-destroyed and turned into outland? |
| 15:17.54 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:18.40 | nevcairiel | so intead of some splintered continent floating in space, you get a proper continent with a sea around it |
| 15:21.51 | karl_w_w | it's just an amazing coincidence that when the planet exploded this continent was preserved exactly |
| 15:22.09 | nevcairiel | its hardly exact |
| 15:22.11 | Gnarfoz | it might be the only continent |
| 15:22.21 | Fisker | karl_w_w is mad |
| 15:22.25 | Gnarfoz | of course he is |
| 15:22.34 | karl_w_w | supermad |
| 15:22.42 | Gnarfoz | he expected some unknown landmass not present in previous lore |
| 15:22.44 | nevcairiel | the only zone which even looks remotely like the BC zone is nagrand |
| 15:22.51 | karl_w_w | I once madded a guy, and it was only 10 seconds ago |
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| 15:23.21 | karl_w_w | i meant the shape nevcairiel not the landscape |
| 15:25.11 | nevcairiel | just for comparison, i made you an outland image: http://i.imgur.com/nwqmGYr.png |
| 15:25.24 | nevcairiel | sure has drifted around a lot |
| 15:26.04 | Gnarfoz | frostfire ridge and spires of arakk completely missing, too |
| 15:26.39 | karl_w_w | still too similar for my liking |
| 15:26.47 | nevcairiel | its the same fucking planet :P |
| 15:26.57 | nevcairiel | its supposed to be |
| 15:27.06 | karl_w_w | just doesnt seem plausible that the rest of the planet was obliterated |
| 15:27.16 | nevcairiel | you know what, it has places with the same names, too! |
| 15:27.18 | Kesava | you know there's magic in wow right |
| 15:27.20 | karl_w_w | and this continent is almost completely still there |
| 15:27.32 | Gnarfoz | blizzard lazy, recycled content, etc |
| 15:27.48 | Gnarfoz | (obviously the entire thing was remade from scratch, but whatever) |
| 15:28.30 | karl_w_w | and all of the warlords happened to be on this continent which would later survive |
| 15:28.40 | nevcairiel | they said themself that nagrand is the only zone which still looks like in BC, but even that zone they didn't copy, but re-invent it entirely |
| 15:28.55 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: what other continents do you know of? |
| 15:29.01 | karl_w_w | the continent, btw, which was meant to be the source of the destruction |
| 15:29.06 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: obviously its the continent which has the dark portal on it |
| 15:29.42 | Gnarfoz | if there were other continents, who says they'd be populated by orcs? they might be populated by ants for all we know ;p |
| 15:30.15 | Gnarfoz | game "planet" mechanics never make any sense |
| 15:30.39 | Gnarfoz | because all of them are several orders of magnitudes too small |
| 15:31.22 | Gnarfoz | Azeroth would be what, 500 km in diameter or something? it's an asteroid :D |
| 15:31.39 | karl_w_w | azeroth had the possibility to be big enough |
| 15:31.57 | Gnarfoz | so there's several unknown continents there, too? |
| 15:32.02 | karl_w_w | until blizzard confirmed that eastern kingdoms and kalimdor are in fact on opposite sides of the planet |
| 15:32.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah. tiny fucking planet. |
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| 15:32.27 | nevcairiel | their universe has magic, who says it has the same physics as the real world |
| 15:32.39 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 15:32.52 | Kesava | even that's invalid though |
| 15:32.56 | Kesava | it is an entirely created worl |
| 15:33.01 | Kesava | it doesn't have to be realistic |
| 15:33.10 | nevcairiel | obviously the answer to any question of "how is that possible" is "magic did it" |
| 15:33.11 | Gnarfoz | of course something totally new would have been more exciting, but they wanted to explore the past of a pre-existing place |
| 15:33.19 | Gnarfoz | how could they have made it look entirely different |
| 15:33.44 | Gnarfoz | (well, they could have, "magic" - and that's their prerogative. it's a fantasy world after all) |
| 15:34.17 | nevcairiel | short of some key places I don't expect to be running around feeling like i'm in BC |
| 15:34.25 | Gnarfoz | Warlords of Some other place not really resembling Draenor |
| 15:35.13 | nevcairiel | the zones may have similar shapes, but the vegetation and the inhabitants are entirely different afterall |
| 15:35.21 | karl_w_w | maybe we can have argus next |
| 15:36.09 | Gnarfoz | wonder what that looks like today |
| 15:36.10 | Kesava | and there can be protoss there |
| 15:37.26 | karl_w_w | they've almost completely run out of places to go on azeroth |
| 15:37.49 | nevcairiel | this is why we're going back to draenor, duh |
| 15:38.13 | karl_w_w | maybe they're saving argus for warcraft 4 *unrealistic hopes* |
| 15:39.43 | Kesava | with. with protoss? |
| 15:39.58 | nevcairiel | might certainly be a possibility, finally end the burning legion and sargeras |
| 15:41.46 | karl_w_w | they could always create new places and stop leeching off the pre-existing lore |
| 15:41.51 | karl_w_w | but that would be too obvious |
| 15:42.12 | nevcairiel | equal amount of people would complain that they are just inventing things instead of using the existing lore :p |
| 15:43.28 | A-KO | ^ |
| 15:44.01 | A-KO | karl_w_w: I suspect the reason they didn't do Argus yet is because of the complaints that came about with space goats and all of that. |
| 15:44.34 | karl_w_w | yes apparently BC was too sci-fi |
| 15:44.57 | A-KO | My only REAL complaint with WoW's story has to do with the fact that they're making significant changes really quickly. I feel like they could have done lots of little lore inside of the game. It worked reasonably well for Vanilla. We were fighting Ragnaros, random stuff like that; not murdering dragon aspects. |
| 15:45.38 | karl_w_w | has anybody aged in wow other than anduin? |
| 15:45.45 | A-KO | Dragon aspects should have probably been some of the grandest scale stuff. |
| 15:45.53 | Fisker | Your mom did |
| 15:46.01 | karl_w_w | ouch |
| 15:47.04 | Kesava | what's-his-name aged |
| 15:47.15 | Kesava | the black prince guy |
| 15:47.16 | nevcairiel | A-KO: we also killed various old-gods, those should top dragon aspects |
| 15:47.18 | Kesava | ridiculously quickly |
| 15:47.30 | karl_w_w | wrathion |
| 15:48.42 | nevcairiel | never bringing death wing up would have felt kinda weird though, he was always present in the lore as an evil force, it made sense to bring him in the game |
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| 15:49.19 | nevcairiel | and the cataclysm that he caused that broke half the world was kinda epic |
| 15:50.30 | nevcairiel | malygos was a bit wasted, didnt feel much epic |
| 15:52.25 | karl_w_w | now it makes more sense |
| 15:52.31 | karl_w_w | "Based on this description, one might interpret the Twisting Nether as having a similar connection to the Great Dark Beyond as the Emerald Dream does to Azeroth. This idea of a magical representation of physical space meshes well with what is known of the creation of Outland. When Draenor was ripped apart by Ner'zhul's portals, the portion of the world which has become Outland was pulled into the Twisting Nether rather than remaining i |
| 15:52.31 | karl_w_w | n the physical realm of the Great Dark Beyond due to the sheer power of the magicks being unleashed." |
| 15:53.14 | nevcairiel | guess that makes sense |
| 15:54.04 | nevcairiel | never really thought about what the twisting nether was |
| 15:54.09 | Shirik | recently ran out of space on my 2TB drive |
| 15:54.15 | Shirik | couldn't figure out how I would use that much space |
| 15:54.27 | Shirik | I finally found it.... I left fraps running overnight |
| 15:54.46 | nevcairiel | that'll do it |
| 15:55.00 | A-KO | nevcairiel: Agreed, I just think it could have been more tastefully done. The problem being, of course, then you'd have equal amounts of people going "YEAH WE WANT TO KILL THOSE DRAGONS!" |
| 15:55.11 | A-KO | So...yeah |
| 15:55.30 | nevcairiel | i thought the deathwing fight himself was kinda silly though |
| 15:56.19 | A-KO | but I feel like they're more or less running to the limits of the characters themselves, not just story. And they're leaving other things more or less wide open or not described enough. |
| 15:57.08 | A-KO | I'm hoping they dive deeper into the Thrall/Horde mess than they have. You would absolutely think that there'd be significantly more resentment over Thrall leaving Garrosh in charge, and there isn't. It's like.."WELP GUYS SORRY MADE A MISTAKE GOING TO SETTLE DOWN HAVE KIDS NOW KTHXBYE".... |
| 15:57.16 | A-KO | Just poorly executed, IMO. |
| 15:58.07 | nevcairiel | seems like its a bit too late now |
| 15:58.13 | A-KO | The gravity of Thrall leaving Garrosh in charge and the story that unfolded and was expressed now through more or less 2 expansions is not equally described by his reasonings why. |
| 15:58.16 | A-KO | Indeed, it is. |
| 15:58.23 | nevcairiel | like, three expansions have passed |
| 16:00.11 | A-KO | Perhaps if things happen as I'd like them I"ll get the chance to ask those questions. I'm sure there's a reason. I'm sure it's mixed somewhere in between overworked hours, lots of writing and occasional writer's block |
| 16:00.22 | A-KO | and having to balance gameplay and story |
| 16:01.09 | A-KO | At the end of the day, they have a crapton of stuff to write lore-wise. It just seems they're missing some sort of middle piece in that puzzle. Between the end writers literally scripting out the entirety of the game story and Metzen's wild ideas. |
| 16:02.52 | A-KO | I should re-read Thrall |
| 16:03.56 | A-KO | Perhaps a limitation of the medium, much like a movie is limited to a couple of hours. |
| 16:05.25 | nevcairiel | the novels are always a decent place to fill in some lore holes, but of course they also have to tell a decent story or it would read too much like a history book |
| 16:07.42 | A-KO | indeed. But there's some problems in execution there, too. In more recent expansions the books are generally used as precusors to the next expansion. What's happening 'inbetween'. Occasionally there might be 2 books. There's very little writing outside of that boundary. They're companion pieces to the game's story. |
| 16:08.19 | A-KO | I occasionally like the stories that fall way outside of WoW's bounds itself--which is why I like a lot of Knaak's books, writing aside--MOST of them have little to nothing to do with WoW short of providing backstory for characters in the game. |
| 16:08.43 | A-KO | Stormrage, for example, was VERY loosely tied to the mid-expansion plot design. But itself could have very well been an entire expansion. |
| 16:08.56 | A-KO | Versus something like "The Shattering", which its very title leads into Cataclysm |
| 16:11.02 | nevcairiel | yeah the pre-cursor thing really started with the shattering |
| 16:12.28 | Gnarfoz | is a pre-cursor a cursor to the right of the real cursor? |
| 16:13.02 | karl_w_w | no, that would be a post-cursor |
| 16:13.32 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: Präkursor in german. :P |
| 16:15.23 | Shirik | karl_w_w: let's not be racist |
| 16:15.32 | karl_w_w | So the last tracking even on this delivery: Exported i-Parcel and in transit to country of destination 2014-04-02T10:50:00-05:00 |
| 16:15.33 | Shirik | some languages write right to left |
| 16:15.39 | karl_w_w | I think the plane might have gone down |
| 16:16.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you mean pre-something in latin? |
| 16:16.08 | karl_w_w | but racism is so cool Shirik |
| 16:16.34 | Gnarfoz | why is a pre-view a pre-view then, if it shows something that's in the future? |
| 16:17.12 | Gnarfoz | because I get to see shit that hasn't happened (i.e. pre-it-happening) |
| 16:17.35 | Gnarfoz | so... stuff I haven't written is "pre", too! in some crazy way. I claim. |
| 16:17.50 | karl_w_w | that's some broken logic :P |
| 16:17.55 | Gnarfoz | I also claim the rest of this delicious bologna |
| 16:18.12 | karl_w_w | pre- is from the latin for before |
| 16:18.16 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 16:18.30 | karl_w_w | a before-view is a view of something before it happens |
| 16:18.38 | Gnarfoz | yes, so stuff I haven't written |
| 16:18.41 | Gnarfoz | for example |
| 16:19.27 | Shirik | while I generally believe the word "preview" makes sense |
| 16:19.32 | Shirik | I would like to point out that English rarely makes sense |
| 16:19.44 | Shirik | so claiming that a word doesn't make sense isn't exactly a valid argument for "it shouldn't be that way" :) |
| 16:20.00 | nevcairiel | precursor is similar in meaning as prequel or predecessor, something that came before |
| 16:20.01 | Gnarfoz | also, pre- is not limited to time :D |
| 16:20.09 | Gnarfoz | yes, nobody didn't know that |
| 16:20.19 | Gnarfoz | IRC needs more interrobangs |
| 16:20.45 | Gnarfoz | (I just made fun of you putting a hyphen there, highlighting the "cursor" part) |
| 16:20.47 | Shirik | I am amazed at how long backing up data takes |
| 16:21.00 | Gnarfoz | you ain't seen nothing, yet |
| 16:21.02 | Gnarfoz | wait for the restore |
| 16:21.09 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I'm transferring data between drives slower than my wireless connection |
| 16:21.50 | karl_w_w | are you not using wireless, or do we get to imply you don't know what an overhead is and make fun of you? :P |
| 16:22.08 | Shirik | no this is USB |
| 16:22.24 | Shirik | even 2.0 should be significantly faster, so it's obviously limited by the drives |
| 16:23.09 | nevcairiel | usb 2.0 isnt particularly fast |
| 16:23.12 | Gnarfoz | don't kid yourself, USB 2.0 is slow as fuck |
| 16:23.17 | Gnarfoz | compared to HDDs |
| 16:23.24 | Shirik | 480 mbps |
| 16:23.31 | nevcairiel | minus overhead |
| 16:23.32 | Gnarfoz | that's a gross! of 60 MiB/s |
| 16:23.36 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:23.38 | Shirik | and I'm getting 20 |
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| 16:24.00 | Shirik | (which is actually faster than my wireless connection but that's not the point) |
| 16:24.02 | Gnarfoz | shitty controller/cable/adapter? no idea |
| 16:24.08 | Gnarfoz | is it being compressed as you go along? |
| 16:24.21 | Shirik | I don't think so, but this computer is so broken there's a million things that could be wrong |
| 16:24.23 | nevcairiel | many external discs have rather crappy usb interfaces |
| 16:24.51 | Shirik | today is spring cleaning for my computer |
| 16:25.01 | Shirik | partially because I still can't get rewire to work right |
| 16:25.12 | Shirik | and partially because it just needs it |
| 16:25.21 | Shirik | because software developers still seem to think that everything should be installed to C |
| 16:25.24 | nevcairiel | maybe you should just build a new one |
| 16:25.25 | karl_w_w | sata docks on cases ftw? |
| 16:25.32 | Shirik | so my C has been overflowing forever |
| 16:25.45 | Shirik | I'm going to finally turn on my motherboard's feature to tie my SSD to my other drive |
| 16:25.56 | Gnarfoz | you have software you can't control the installation directory of? |
| 16:26.05 | Gnarfoz | (besides Google FUCKING Chrome) |
| 16:26.11 | Shirik | most software lets you choose the install directory, but then goes "oh but I need 1GB on C anyway" |
| 16:26.19 | Shirik | or does things like "oh but I need to unpack the installer to C" |
| 16:26.20 | Gnarfoz | nope.jpg |
| 16:26.23 | nevcairiel | 1gb isnt exactly much |
| 16:26.26 | Gnarfoz | but whatever, you probably use crazy software |
| 16:26.28 | Shirik | sure, but when that keeps happening |
| 16:26.33 | Gnarfoz | it's not like there's %TEMP% |
| 16:26.43 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, there is! |
| 16:26.45 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 16:26.55 | nevcairiel | i have loads of stuff installed including 3 versions of visual studio, and my C is o nly like 90gb used |
| 16:26.57 | Gnarfoz | set it to somewhere else |
| 16:27.06 | Shirik | 90GB is larger than my C drive |
| 16:27.16 | nevcairiel | maybe your C drive is just too small then |
| 16:27.22 | Shirik | it's my SSD |
| 16:27.29 | Shirik | my 2TB drive hadn't come in yet when I built it so it was what I had |
| 16:27.30 | nevcairiel | maybe your SSD is just too small then |
| 16:27.38 | Gnarfoz | or you too easily give in to these perceived "situations" you claim |
| 16:27.40 | Shirik | so now that I have the time I'm going to tie the 2TB drive to the SSD |
| 16:27.47 | Shirik | and never have this problem again |
| 16:27.51 | Gnarfoz | you could just link c:\Program Files\ to another drive |
| 16:27.55 | Gnarfoz | if it's that critical |
| 16:27.56 | Shirik | I've done that actually lol |
| 16:28.00 | nevcairiel | if you like sacrificing performance :p |
| 16:28.08 | Shirik | I have a lot of folders that are linked over to my HDD |
| 16:28.14 | Shirik | but it's getting insane |
| 16:28.29 | Gnarfoz | maybe the more efficient thing would be getting a 128 GB SSD for 60$ |
| 16:28.33 | Gnarfoz | or whatever they are in the US |
| 16:28.38 | Gnarfoz | probably even cheaper than here |
| 16:28.51 | Shirik | no real need to, though; I think performance will be good enough |
| 16:28.58 | Shirik | most of the programs I run right now are running off the TB drive anyway |
| 16:29.06 | Fisker | asdfgsfds Shirik |
| 16:29.09 | Gnarfoz | I thought this was about space, not performance |
| 16:29.18 | Shirik | well nevcairiel turned it into performance :P |
| 16:29.26 | Shirik | it is about space |
| 16:29.41 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 16:29.49 | Fisker | Hey |
| 16:30.47 | nevcairiel | i was just saying that the feature you're talking about isnt all that great |
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| 16:46.01 | Trela | :O |
| 16:46.08 | Trela | Holding a $325 gift card in my haaaaaaand. |
| 16:46.14 | Shirik | nevcairiel: sure, but it also means my SSD doesn't go to waste :) |
| 16:46.43 | Shirik | Trela: Does not compare to the first time I held a $700 WoW TCG card |
| 16:46.48 | Shirik | and was forced to give it to someone |
| 16:46.53 | Shirik | that was a very sad day |
| 16:47.22 | Trela | Shirik: How does that work? |
| 16:47.32 | Shirik | I was judging for the event, it was a prize |
| 16:47.43 | Shirik | it was the first time I had ever seen that card |
| 16:48.00 | Shirik | granted I have two of them now, though they're not worth $700 anymore |
| 16:48.15 | Trela | Ah~ |
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| 16:49.03 | Shirik | well they're apparently still being LISTED that high, lol http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOW-World-of-Warcraft-TCG-MOUNT-UNSCRATCHED-SPECTRAL-TIGER-OUTLAND-LOOT-CARD-3-3-/151266916470?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item233835f876 |
| 16:49.05 | Gnarfoz | which one Shirik? |
| 16:49.08 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 16:49.11 | Shirik | but I don't think that will sell |
| 16:49.17 | Trela | I did a promotion through AutoZone where 25% was returned on a gift card. Finally arrived in the mail. |
| 16:49.23 | nevcairiel | the spectral tiger isnt worth that much anymore |
| 16:49.30 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:49.36 | Shirik | you can still get a couple hundred off it |
| 16:49.39 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWGZdYNpaSo Rowan Atkinson \o/ |
| 16:49.46 | Trela | Oh, a redeemable card. :O |
| 16:51.13 | Shirik | Trela: That's how most judges got paid :) |
| 16:51.24 | Shirik | it was nearly free for them, and it was good value for the judges |
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| 17:20.42 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/DeVBQQX jesus |
| 17:23.14 | TC-Work | Yes my child? |
| 17:23.58 | Neffi | I think that's like, a sin TC-Work |
| 17:24.22 | TC-Work | Neffi: What? he was just a carpenter. |
| 17:24.32 | Neffi | I dunno tho. I have trouble keeping track of all the things people tell me will put me in hell |
| 17:24.44 | Shirik | just don't do anything |
| 17:24.49 | Shirik | it's a lot easier |
| 17:25.03 | Shirik | oh wait, suicide puts you in hell, and not eating is basically suicide |
| 17:25.06 | Shirik | soo |
| 17:25.16 | Shirik | I think it boils down to "you go to hell no matter what" |
| 17:25.27 | TC-Work | I suspect the only thing that would put you in hell is your belief that you deserve to. |
| 17:29.33 | Neffi | or royally pissing off Mehrunes Dagon |
| 17:30.53 | Fisker | asd |
| 17:30.56 | Fisker | fgsfds |
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| 17:57.49 | Neffi | I suddenly see the appeal of huge ass monitors |
| 17:58.03 | TC-Work | Only suddenly? |
| 17:58.59 | Neffi | Trying to work with the CK to build a new outdoor area in Skyrim. It's painful at 1366x768 |
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| 17:59.39 | Neffi | I could use at least 10x more space |
| 18:01.15 | TC-Work | 13660x7680 is quite large |
| 18:01.31 | TC-Work | actually, I don't think the math works out there. |
| 18:02.00 | Neffi | lol |
| 18:03.29 | TC-Work | I am currently on 5120x1600 and it is 'passible'. |
| 18:03.34 | Neffi | 4K would be just under 10x 1360x768 |
| 18:04.15 | Neffi | it would also help if the CK didn't destroy my CPU |
| 18:04.48 | Fisker | http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN-spec |
| 18:04.52 | Fisker | I kind of want this |
| 18:04.54 | Fisker | despite TN |
| 18:05.00 | TC-Work | Note that resolution and screen real estate are two different things. |
| 18:05.05 | Fisker | and shitty stand |
| 18:05.15 | Fisker | And Mega infinity |
| 18:05.18 | TC-Work | 4K on a 24" monitor would be not fun |
| 18:05.28 | Neffi | indeed not |
| 18:05.31 | Fisker | DPI bro |
| 18:05.33 | Fisker | Do you even? |
| 18:05.46 | Iriel | TC-Work: Well, it might be ok, the retina MBP is pretty nice |
| 18:06.05 | Fisker | Should I get it Shirik ? |
| 18:06.08 | Neffi | Working with a render window, a properties window for the objects in the render window, a list window to feed the render window, and a properties window for the mod as a whole, needs more than 24" |
| 18:06.15 | TC-Work | Iriel: This is within the context of having a large viewing area |
| 18:06.21 | Fisker | I may have several cm's of broken pixels tomorrow |
| 18:06.44 | Iriel | TC-Work: Ah, ok.. |
| 18:06.56 | Neffi | But my computer officially cannot run the CK, despite being able to play the game just fine, because the CK appears to be slow as balls and strictly single-threaded |
| 18:06.57 | Iriel | TC-Work: I wasn’t paying attention to the history |
| 18:07.06 | TC-Work | For shame Iriel. |
| 18:07.50 | TC-Work | Fisker: On that page "Dynamic Contrast Ratio Mega ∞" heh |
| 18:07.56 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:08.01 | Fisker | to mega infinity and beyond |
| 18:09.04 | Iriel | 30” seems to be about my upper bound on monitor size, 28 may even be preferable |
| 18:09.17 | TC-Work | I'm curious as to why it is 28" instead of 30". I wonder if there is still a significant engineering/materials difference between the 2. |
| 18:09.19 | nevcairiel | techically if you can control the brightness of every pixel individually, you get infinte contrast ratio |
| 18:09.29 | nevcairiel | but its doubtful it can do that on a per-pixel basis |
| 18:09.54 | TC-Work | I have 27" at home and 30" here at work and I prefer the 30" |
| 18:10.08 | nevcairiel | i agree Iriel, 30" is a bit too large. I have one right now, and i would buy slightly less if i ever upgrade |
| 18:10.14 | Iriel | How far from your eyes is your 30? |
| 18:10.20 | Iriel | Mine just seems a /bit/ too big |
| 18:10.28 | TC-Work | 2 feet? |
| 18:10.38 | Iriel | Mine’s about 18 inches away |
| 18:10.40 | TC-Work | litteraly arms length |
| 18:11.36 | Iriel | What’s the price of that samsung monitor? |
| 18:11.58 | nevcairiel | if i only had one screen, 30 might be ok |
| 18:12.11 | nevcairiel | but then i would always prefer more than one |
| 18:12.25 | TC-Work | Interesting, it has no DVI. |
| 18:12.46 | TC-Work | I didn't know we were at that point yet |
| 18:12.48 | Fisker | I think all the new 4k's are like 28" or 32" |
| 18:12.51 | Fisker | Of the monitors |
| 18:13.00 | nevcairiel | anyway, PCs are not ready for 4K screens |
| 18:13.08 | Iriel | the lack of a DVI out on the new mac pro bit me at first |
| 18:13.12 | Fisker | You wanna fight about it nevcairiel ? |
| 18:13.13 | nevcairiel | there isn't even a proper output for 4K at decent refresh rate |
| 18:13.24 | nevcairiel | you need idiotic DP multi-stream |
| 18:13.27 | nevcairiel | which works like shit |
| 18:13.28 | TC-Work | Iriel: I found it for $600 but I am not sure how valid that is |
| 18:13.37 | Iriel | Amazon says between 800 and 850 |
| 18:13.39 | TC-Work | http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=95635&gclid=CIju37v5yb0CFVBffgodG4oAjA |
| 18:13.53 | Fisker | Yeah and the spec isn't even done yet is it nevcairiel? |
| 18:14.20 | TC-Work | nevcairiel: depends on the machine. |
| 18:14.45 | Fisker | http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=monlcd19wide&xf=98_3840x2160#xf_top |
| 18:14.46 | TC-Work | we output to higher resolutions at work but it is over SDI |
| 18:14.51 | Iriel | Im hopeful for affordable + high color quality 4K monitors by the end of the year |
| 18:14.53 | Fisker | Yeah almost all the 4k's are 28/31.5(32) |
| 18:15.04 | nevcairiel | TC-Work: too bad s creens for that cost more then some peoples cars :P |
| 18:15.26 | nevcairiel | its by far not "consumer" |
| 18:15.43 | TC-Work | True. Though it's via projector tbh |
| 18:15.51 | Fisker | How does that Displayport multistream even work anyway? |
| 18:15.56 | Fisker | Isn't it still only using one output? |
| 18:16.04 | nevcairiel | DP is weird |
| 18:16.26 | TC-Work | although not as nice as the one at one of the studios around here. They use dual 4K projectors because the screen they have is so large. |
| 18:16.30 | nevcairiel | its still one output, but somehow it allows sending two separate streams with more throughput than one stream |
| 18:16.37 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:16.40 | Fisker | That's dumb |
| 18:16.45 | nevcairiel | so windows sees two screens |
| 18:16.54 | nevcairiel | and you need your gpu driver to make windows not behave silly |
| 18:17.11 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 18:17.19 | nevcairiel | its about time for new gpus with DP and HDMI updates |
| 18:17.23 | Fisker | I saw nvidia drivers were struggling with it :P |
| 18:17.48 | nevcairiel | DVI is probably out of the race by now, but DP works fine anyway so shrug |
| 18:21.47 | Fisker | asd |
| 18:21.48 | Fisker | fgsfds |
| 18:30.27 | Fisker | You know what always works out for early adopters nevcairiel ? |
| 18:31.57 | TC-Work | Being poor? |
| 18:32.35 | Iriel | Learning to stifle any feelings of regret? |
| 18:35.05 | TC-Work | I'm not sure that always works out. |
| 18:35.48 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:38.28 | Fisker | I want google play music in denmark :( |
| 18:38.34 | Fisker | Hate having to organize my library |
| 18:38.37 | Fisker | help me nevcairiel |
| 18:38.59 | Fisker | The part where you have to avoid tracks you have purchased is ingenius |
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| 19:08.46 | Fisker | why won't robocopy behave? :'( |
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| 19:18.51 | TC-Work | Because you don't treat it right. |
| 19:22.50 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:28.05 | zenzelezz | maybe you need to fire it |
| 19:30.06 | TC-Work | set fire* |
| 19:34.13 | Mr_Rabies | feed it some babyfood-like nutrients |
| 19:48.48 | Fisker | oh jesus |
| 19:48.53 | Fisker | apparently there's a bug in robocopy |
| 19:49.04 | Fisker | mind blown |
| 19:50.03 | Fisker | Don't restore data on a corrupt drive he said |
| 19:50.11 | Fisker | The files may end up corrupt again he said |
| 19:50.13 | Fisker | but nooo |
| 19:53.49 | Fisker | yay |
| 19:53.50 | Fisker | \o/ |
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| 20:12.49 | Semlar | Kesava: do you know if OnShow fires when a unit's name changes on their nameplate |
| 20:13.31 | Kesava | i'm pretty sure it doesn't |
| 20:13.41 | Semlar | do you just periodically check the name |
| 20:13.56 | Kesava | i, uh don't check it at all |
| 20:14.10 | Semlar | so you don't update it unless the plate is reshow |
| 20:14.12 | Semlar | n |
| 20:14.15 | Kesava | i don't know of any mobs to reliably check that behaviour on anyway |
| 20:14.17 | Kesava | yep |
| 20:14.34 | Semlar | i just know that sometimes player names show as unknown until they're identified |
| 20:14.46 | Kesava | ah, that doesn't happen with nameplates afaik |
| 20:14.49 | Kesava | at least I've never seen it |
| 20:14.55 | Semlar | i have |
| 20:14.59 | Kesava | oh. |
| 20:15.08 | Semlar | it'll show Unknown on their nameplate for a few seconds |
| 20:15.09 | Kesava | hm. maybe I do check it then |
| 20:15.35 | Semlar | it's only usually if they're on another server and you're zoning in or something |
| 20:16.16 | Semlar | i've been working on making mine more efficient because right now i literally just set the name on update |
| 20:16.51 | Semlar | i'll probably store the old name and just compare the current name every so often |
| 20:16.55 | Kesava | yeah, I definitely only do it onshow |
| 20:17.09 | Kesava | but you could probably overload the old name's SetText |
| 20:17.16 | Kesava | if that doesn't taint everything |
| 20:17.17 | Semlar | i don't think SetText fires |
| 20:17.32 | Kesava | perhaps not |
| 20:17.32 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i tried to hook it |
| 20:17.46 | Iriel | I think nameplates are like tooltips - the game uses the C++ API's |
| 20:17.53 | Kesava | yep |
| 20:19.26 | Semlar | i didn't try overloading it |
| 20:19.32 | Semlar | i just tried hooksecurefunc |
| 20:20.00 | Semlar | so i don't know if replacing the function would behave differently |
| 20:20.05 | Iriel | It wont |
| 20:20.26 | Kesava | yeah it doesn't tend to work on nameplate elements |
| 20:22.40 | Semlar | it'll save a little bit to just compare the new string to the old one because i do some formatting on the name |
| 20:23.03 | Semlar | and i don't want to do that every time |
| 20:24.08 | Semlar | the only mobs i can think of that change their name during combat are in raids and not convenient for testing |
| 20:24.43 | Semlar | i could rename my pet but MY pet doesn't have a nameplate |
| 20:32.34 | Kesava | indeed |
| 20:36.45 | Neffi | Semlar: I think I just got reverse-ninjaed money |
| 20:37.10 | Neffi | I found a scratch off inside my personal drawer, which I definitely don't remember, only half scratched off, and it's a winner |
| 20:38.57 | Semlar | reverse ninja |
| 20:40.04 | Neffi | well, off to the store. odd day |
| 20:40.19 | Semlar | maybe it's a fake winner |
| 20:40.31 | Semlar | and someone is playing a prank on you |
| 20:41.23 | Semlar | you should give it to me just to be safe |
| 20:41.31 | Neffi | it's only $20 and it looks genuine enough |
| 20:41.37 | Neffi | haha, sure. |
| 20:45.49 | Shirik | reformatted computer, reinstalled |
| 20:45.53 | Shirik | managed to break it in 5 minutes |
| 20:45.55 | Shirik | I am impressed |
| 20:46.00 | Semlar | it's a gift |
| 20:46.46 | Shirik | "Root cause found: Partition table is corrupt on disk \Device\Harddisk0. Repair action: Partition table repair Result: Completed successfully." |
| 20:46.48 | nevcairiel | ~failrik |
| 20:46.49 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 20:47.11 | Shirik | woah wtf |
| 20:47.13 | Shirik | wtfwtfwtf |
| 20:47.24 | Semlar | what did you do to the hard drive |
| 20:47.25 | Shirik | the fucking windows repair system |
| 20:47.37 | Shirik | restored the old OS |
| 20:47.40 | Shirik | ...... |
| 20:47.49 | nevcairiel | how would it do that |
| 20:47.54 | nevcairiel | unless you didnt really format |
| 20:47.58 | Shirik | well I didn't |
| 20:48.03 | Shirik | I just trashed the partition and overwrote it |
| 20:48.08 | Shirik | I guess it "found" it while trying to repair |
| 20:48.34 | Semlar | they're trashing our rights! |
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| 20:51.45 | Semlar | i just noticed my weights are made by "diversified products corporation" which may be the most generic title for a company i've ever seen |
| 20:52.42 | j311yf1sh | lol |
| 20:53.01 | j311yf1sh | could've been "Company that makes weight corporation" |
| 20:53.04 | Semlar | although.. my tablet is made by GENERAL DYNAMICS |
| 20:53.17 | Semlar | that's a pretty good one |
| 20:53.49 | Shirik | I like Computer Science Corporation |
| 20:54.06 | j311yf1sh | lol |
| 20:54.37 | Shirik | plot twist: they are a terrible company |
| 20:54.46 | Shirik | that comes up with the worst computing algorithms |
| 20:55.23 | Semlar | i thought i came up with the worst computing algorithms |
| 20:55.48 | Semlar | are you saying i have competition |
| 20:57.13 | Shirik | indeed |
| 20:57.21 | Shirik | but they might have a job opening |
| 20:59.34 | j311yf1sh | give me an example of a bad computer algorithm |
| 20:59.41 | Semlar | i might be overqualified |
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| 21:35.38 | karl_w_w | well the plane carrying my package from the US to Australia has now been in the air for over 3 days, and I haven't seen anything in the news about any planes going down, so I can only assume they have invented some incredible new aviation fuel |
| 21:35.51 | Alram | planes have been doing that lately |
| 21:35.56 | Alram | its a new trend i guess |
| 21:41.50 | Semlar | you haven't seen anything in the news about any planes going down? |
| 21:53.52 | Shirik | karl_w_w: if you fly high enough you can go into orbit |
| 21:54.09 | Shirik | or so say some MH370 conspiracy theorists |
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| 22:11.56 | karl_w_w | not in the last 3 days Semlar |
| 22:20.14 | Iriel | karl_w_w: Maybe it’s stuck in customs? |
| 22:24.29 | Sintacks | lol @ people QQ'ing about messages going to all logged in clients now |
| 22:24.43 | Sintacks | people have wanted it for ever. since the inception of cross game chat. |
| 22:24.59 | Sintacks | the people that are complaining about it, are the people that share a battle.net, which is against terms |
| 22:25.03 | tz | people don't like change |
| 22:27.04 | Sintacks | aparently a friend of mine's guildie is bitching about it |
| 22:27.19 | Sintacks | I didn't say what I normally say. I report people i find to be sharing an account. just cuz i'm a fucking dick. |
| 22:27.35 | Sintacks | They share a battle.net so they have all the same pets and mounts. |
| 22:27.40 | Sintacks | which is exactly why you aren't allowed to do that |
| 22:36.38 | tharper | mikma |
| 22:36.46 | tharper | what does "Vittu ruotsalaiset on homoja ja ihan perseestä..... suomi perkele!!!!!" mean? |
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| 22:51.36 | kullervo | pretty sure google translate would've worked on that |
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| 23:27.21 | Shirik | well I recognize perkele |
| 23:39.32 | mikma | you should |
| 23:39.57 | mikma | because nothing is scarier than angry drunken finnish yelling PERKELE! from top of his lungs (yes, run and hide) |
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