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| 00:31.11 | p3lim | anyone here good with css? |
| 00:50.12 | cogwheel | p3lim: we had a fight the other day but i think we're still on talking terms |
| 00:50.45 | cogwheel | also turn on google transcribe audio with the CC button on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjNee-rODvs |
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| 00:54.07 | Adys | p3lim: whats up? |
| 00:54.39 | p3lim | just some mess about opacity on parent objects without adding it to children, got help on #wowuidev |
| 00:55.16 | p3lim | figured using a background with a alpha layer was the only (or atleast the easiest) way |
| 00:55.28 | Adys | p3lim: this IS #wowuidev |
| 00:55.57 | MoonWitch | cogwheel: I just had to click it too ... |
| 00:55.59 | Adys | p3lim: and use rgba() |
| 00:58.25 | p3lim | s/#wowuidev/#wowace |
| 00:58.36 | p3lim | how do I use rgba()? |
| 00:58.56 | p3lim | (didnt find any on w3schools) |
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| 01:01.31 | Cargor | background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.4); |
| 01:02.17 | p3lim | thanks cargor |
| 01:02.31 | p3lim | didnt know tumblr used css3, so I ignored it |
| 01:03.03 | Antiarc | CSS3 is implemented by browsers, not services like tumblr |
| 01:03.26 | Shirik | (18:01:03)  -⺠Quit: Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) (Excess Flood) |
| 01:03.29 | Shirik | second day in a row I see myself quit |
| 01:03.33 | Shirik | that is so bizzare |
| 01:03.50 | cogwheel | This is me caring |
| 01:04.16 | cogwheel | punches something |
| 01:05.25 | frontendloader | how bizzare |
| 01:05.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:05.26 | frontendloader | how bizzare |
| 01:05.55 | cogwheel | ~hug me |
| 01:05.56 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on cogwheel and suddenly hugs cogwheel tightly |
| 01:06.25 | p3lim | Antiarc: does IE use css3? |
| 01:07.09 | Antiarc | IE8 does a little bit, IE9 should |
| 01:07.13 | Antiarc | IE7 doesn't at all |
| 01:08.32 | MoonWitch | I need food, ice cream or a hug |
| 01:08.43 | MoonWitch | ~give icecream |
| 01:08.50 | MoonWitch | meh |
| 01:08.56 | MoonWitch | we need that built into purl |
| 01:09.02 | Torhal | ~cookie MoonWitch |
| 01:09.05 | Torhal | Bah |
| 01:09.21 | Torhal | Haha |
| 01:09.29 | MoonWitch | kicks purl |
| 01:09.49 | MoonWitch | though Purl is correct, I can't figure out purl |
| 01:13.20 | p3lim | Antiarc: a little bit? :p |
| 01:13.46 | Antiarc | It has a partial implementation |
| 01:21.57 | cogwheel | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/28/giant-airplane-mounted-telescope-sees-first-light/ |
| 01:23.15 | cogwheel | there's a muthafukkin telescope on the muthafukkin plane |
| 01:23.57 | MoonWitch | and its pixelated |
| 01:28.18 | cogwheel | is tired of RGB. WTB spectral cameras & displays for consumers... |
| 01:28.36 | cogwheel | gimmeh mah gamut! |
| 01:32.17 | MoonWitch | i am getting food |
| 01:37.05 | DWSR | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/at-last-the-open-source-iphone-killer/ |
| 01:37.16 | DWSR | Yes plz. |
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| 01:50.33 | DWSR | http://www.wow.com/2010/05/28/the-cynics-guide-to-world-of-warcraft/#continued |
| 01:51.58 | p3lim | so if I get this right, any attribute I set to a parent in CSS will count for ANY children? |
| 01:52.09 | Shirik | DWSR |
| 01:52.09 | Shirik | hi |
| 01:52.14 | DWSR | hihi |
| 02:01.27 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 02:01.28 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:01.30 | Shirik | no |
| 02:01.33 | Shirik | purl, say Shirik |
| 02:01.34 | purl | Shirik |
| 02:03.01 | DWSR | Shirik: What's up? |
| 02:03.14 | Shirik | not much |
| 02:03.37 | DWSR | You wanted me for something? |
| 02:04.13 | Antiarc | p3lim: Not any, but they're called "Cascading Style Sheets" because properties cascade :P |
| 02:06.48 | Shirik | no DWSR |
| 02:06.50 | Shirik | I was just saying hi |
| 02:06.55 | Shirik | can I not say hi? :( |
| 02:08.44 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 02:10.56 | Shirik | oh ok |
| 02:10.58 | Shirik | bye then |
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| 02:12.30 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* blizzard . != " |
| 02:13.46 | Wobin | ".Oh No!., exclaimed the GM .What are we going to do?."? |
| 02:15.02 | p3lim | Antiarc: just cleaning up my template, figuring I could merge stuff if possible |
| 02:15.15 | Antiarc | p3lim: Check out sass :) |
| 02:15.26 | p3lim | link? |
| 02:15.38 | Antiarc | http://sass-lang.com/ |
| 02:16.04 | Antiarc | It's a CSS metalanguage, which makes your CSS extraordinarily maintainable |
| 02:16.24 | Antiarc | When I first saw it I thought "what do I need that for?", and now that I use it, I hate writing straight CSS. |
| 02:16.45 | Kalroth | I put a meta in your css so you can css while you meta |
| 02:16.45 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 02:17.25 | batrick | jnwhiteh: ping, lua_bot is mia |
| 02:17.33 | Wobin | Thunder_Child, .Oh. I see |
| 02:17.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Wobin |
| 02:17.50 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Wobin, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 02:17.59 | MoonWitch | ... |
| 02:18.13 | Wobin | """ |
| 02:18.34 | p3lim | Antiarc: I like it |
| 02:18.46 | p3lim | How do I implement it? |
| 02:19.03 | Antiarc | You write sass and then run the sass compiler on your sass file and it spits out a CSS file |
| 02:19.16 | Antiarc | I use a daemon that auto-recompiles my sass files into CSS whenever they change |
| 02:19.31 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:19.46 | Shirik | why would you make something that can be so easily misread as "compile my ass" |
| 02:20.00 | MoonWitch | and that is totally what i read Shirik |
| 02:20.01 | Antiarc | You don't compile your ass? |
| 02:20.06 | Antiarc | Oh, you're one of THOSE |
| 02:20.10 | Antiarc | Your ass is interpreted. |
| 02:20.21 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:20.36 | MoonWitch | I need assistance in this convo ... Cairenn!! |
| 02:21.00 | MoonWitch | she still has the whips to interpret said asses |
| 02:21.30 | p3lim | oh my, it requires ruby |
| 02:21.51 | Antiarc | hm, I thought the compiler was in C |
| 02:21.54 | Antiarc | But maybe not |
| 02:22.02 | Antiarc | (I'm a Ruby dev by day so I didn't notice) |
| 02:22.17 | Antiarc | The problem with interpreted asses is that your garbage collector has to be really good. |
| 02:22.25 | Antiarc | If you leave extra garbage around on your ass it's kind of nasty. |
| 02:22.30 | MoonWitch | ruby anything fun? |
| 02:22.34 | Antiarc | I love ruby. |
| 02:22.42 | Antiarc | It's an enormously flexible language |
| 02:22.47 | p3lim | Never tried it |
| 02:22.52 | MoonWitch | so do I, but usually in a ring.. So entice me :) |
| 02:23.42 | Antiarc | http://tryruby.org/ |
| 02:24.09 | p3lim | 15 minutes? o.O |
| 02:24.27 | Antiarc | It just walks you through most of the basics of the language |
| 02:24.29 | Antiarc | Interactive-style. |
| 02:24.33 | p3lim | checks time left until next WG |
| 02:24.51 | p3lim | 47 mins, let go for it |
| 02:25.06 | p3lim | what can I use ruby for though? |
| 02:25.16 | p3lim | I use windows |
| 02:25.21 | Antiarc | Lots of stuff. I use it for web development. |
| 02:25.28 | Antiarc | (via Rails and Sinatra) |
| 02:25.39 | p3lim | my web-dev is basically playing around with css/js |
| 02:25.44 | Antiarc | My WoW localization parser is also in Ruby |
| 02:25.46 | p3lim | on my tumblr |
| 02:27.05 | Antiarc | http://pastie.org/982694 |
| 02:28.21 | MoonWitch | seems straight forward |
| 02:30.01 | Trela | !status |
| 02:30.04 | Trela | ~purl status |
| 02:30.05 | purl | Since Tue May 18 07:40:14 2010, there have been 49 modifications, 712 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 234 commands. I have been awake for 10d 18h 49m 50s this session, and currently reference 117055 factoids. I'm using about 21548 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 28852.81/1030.87 child 0.17/0.05 |
| 02:30.10 | Trela | Hmm. |
| 02:30.29 | kd3 | 117k factoids? eesh |
| 02:31.02 | Trela | What is the status page? |
| 02:31.14 | Trela | Where is the status page for WoW? |
| 02:31.39 | kd3 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 02:31.56 | MoonWitch | I broke the tutorial |
| 02:32.07 | Trela | Thank you. |
| 02:32.13 | Trela | Wait... |
| 02:32.27 | Trela | I mean that one that shows up in the in game welcome screen. |
| 02:32.58 | MoonWitch | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 02:33.07 | kd3 | ~wowalert |
| 02:33.08 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 02:33.27 | Trela | Thank you. :D |
| 02:36.46 | p3lim | Meh, I don't seem to have any use of Ruby |
| 02:37.01 | MoonWitch | neither do I but it looks fun :) |
| 02:37.05 | MoonWitch | reminds me of Python |
| 02:37.07 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 02:37.13 | Wobin | RIP Gary Coleman! |
| 02:37.14 | Wobin | =( |
| 02:37.15 | Antiarc | It's similar to Python, yeah |
| 02:37.30 | p3lim | I used to use Perl for github>wowi tag maintainance though |
| 02:38.32 | MoonWitch | interesting |
| 02:38.50 | MoonWitch | purl, kick Sylvanaar in the nuts next time he comes in\ |
| 02:38.51 | purl | ACTION kicks Sylvanaar in the nuts next time he comes in\ |
| 02:38.58 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:43.05 | Xyphoid | that cynic's guide is lovely actually |
| 02:43.11 | Xyphoid | should i start reading wow.com again |
| 02:43.13 | MoonWitch | was fun to read |
| 02:47.18 | Wobin | http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/drawn-from-the-shadows-wanted-man-comes-out-to-play-20100528-wlcx.html |
| 02:47.21 | Wobin | cool |
| 02:47.29 | Wobin | I like Banksy's work |
| 02:49.30 | MoonWitch | wb cogwheel |
| 02:49.45 | cogwheel | ohai :) |
| 02:50.26 | cogwheel | does going on a walk to the junk food store count as exercise? -_- |
| 02:50.46 | Wobin | only if you're not the one eating the food |
| 02:50.57 | MoonWitch | yes it counts |
| 02:51.09 | cogwheel | MoonWitch: enabler... |
| 02:51.11 | cogwheel | >< |
| 02:51.17 | MoonWitch | i even count bathroom runs |
| 02:51.21 | cogwheel | haha |
| 02:53.38 | Wobin | ooh hudmap beta |
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| 02:56.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:56.44 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Leonard%5EBloom |
| 02:56.47 | Shirik | Categories: Wikipedians who interpret that to mean driving a slow child like a car |
| 02:59.14 | Shirik | (18:26:50) (tsnag) MySQL slave on thyme is CRITICAL: SLOW_SLAVE CRITICAL: Slave IO: Yes Slave SQL: Yes Seconds Behind Master: 1337 |
| 02:59.20 | Shirik | ^ winner |
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| 03:08.54 | Pytlask | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24401611247&pageNo=3&sid=1#41 <-- <3 that reply |
| 03:16.26 | Wobin | <3 bornakk |
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| 03:42.19 | cogwheel | </3! |
| 03:43.02 | cogwheel | 4 GNMRGN |
| 03:47.43 | cogwheel | is it just me or are more and more people using "code" (as in source code) as a countable noun? "Computer threats are continuously evolving, and some malicious codes are a problem difficult to tackle because of their inherent complexity and an intelligent design capable of constantly putting under pressure security companies..." |
| 03:48.21 | Wobin | er... no? |
| 03:48.47 | cogwheel | Wobin: how many codes do you have???!1 |
| 03:48.55 | Xyphoid | codez? |
| 03:51.31 | Antiarc | cogwheel: Ignorant journalists do |
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| 03:56.27 | Amarande | icecrown is such a lovely place |
| 03:56.33 | MoonWitch | Code isn't a " countable" noun as far as I know |
| 03:56.56 | MoonWitch | but then again, I don't know much .. |
| 03:58.30 | MoonWitch | god -- why is it that girls always hide in rooms with 1 door - so no exit |
| 03:58.37 | MoonWitch | (in movies and series) |
| 03:58.54 | MoonWitch | I swear Hollywood etc depicts us as stupid sexdolls |
| 04:00.50 | Thunder_Child | wait...you're not? |
| 04:02.06 | Thunder_Child | to be fair, people dont think clearly in general, let alone a high stress situation. |
| 04:02.43 | MoonWitch | well |
| 04:03.05 | MoonWitch | we've lived a month with the hells angels being mighty pissed at us - with police protection |
| 04:03.16 | MoonWitch | I just slept with a knife under my pillow |
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| 04:17.58 | Wobin | MoonWitch, not a gun? |
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| 04:20.49 | p3lim | I always carry with me a knife when I leave home |
| 04:21.18 | p3lim | I also live 150 yards from the region prison and two mad-houses |
| 04:22.33 | PProvost | Like Sam Kinnison said, "MOVE!' |
| 04:39.21 | Amarande | gah |
| 04:39.28 | Amarande | why do healers and tanks drop group when they find out the random heroic is hor |
| 04:40.26 | Corrodias | i dunno, maybe it isn't fun? |
| 04:40.53 | Wobin | because, as we've said countless times before |
| 04:40.59 | Wobin | it's utterly horrific to tank and heal |
| 04:41.05 | Wobin | as DPS you're fine |
| 04:41.10 | Wobin | you just have to not stand in shit |
| 04:41.57 | MoonWitch | Amarande: I'm a healer, and I can't even get HoR as random daily :P |
| 04:42.04 | MoonWitch | Been hoping for it for a while ;) |
| 04:42.42 | Wobin | MoonWitch, if you can get together a guild run |
| 04:42.42 | MoonWitch | but that said, if dps isn't high enough, even I can't keep folks alive |
| 04:42.53 | Wobin | practise in that before hoping for a pug |
| 04:43.04 | MoonWitch | I would.. if my damn guild wasn't so utterly afraid of the damn place |
| 04:43.12 | Wobin | see, there's a good reason for that =P |
| 04:43.26 | MoonWitch | it does trash a healers confidence to heal it |
| 04:43.32 | Wobin | I'm willing to run it if both healer and tank are guildies |
| 04:43.37 | Wobin | (me being either of them) |
| 04:43.54 | MoonWitch | I don't have the stamina and defense to tank it |
| 04:44.00 | MoonWitch | being a discipline priest and all |
| 04:44.03 | Wobin | but pugs, unless they're overgeared, often fail miserably |
| 04:44.18 | MoonWitch | I don't even partake in pug voa anymore |
| 04:44.25 | Wobin | I've found it easier, as a disc priest to heal it |
| 04:44.32 | Wobin | easiest |
| 04:44.34 | MoonWitch | most pugs on my server go for the first boss - sometimes the 2nd |
| 04:44.37 | MoonWitch | and yes |
| 04:44.51 | MoonWitch | disc is easy mode if you got a decent group |
| 04:44.55 | MoonWitch | slow dps == fail |
| 04:45.00 | MoonWitch | crap tank/healer == fail |
| 04:45.19 | MoonWitch | hell the other day, I had a hard time doing UK |
| 04:45.34 | MoonWitch | until I looked at the HP and spec of pally tanking |
| 04:45.38 | MoonWitch | ret - 35k |
| 04:46.13 | MoonWitch | I lol'ed, patted him on the head and told him to wait for an actual tank |
| 04:46.34 | MoonWitch | (additionally, the dps did 2kdps tops) |
| 04:47.04 | MoonWitch | (together) |
| 04:47.23 | Amarande | oh, does lich king's pain and suffering buff do anything but look pretty, btw? |
| 04:47.32 | MoonWitch | I have no idea |
| 04:47.40 | Amarande | also: questing icecrown makes me wonder why we bother fighting the lich king |
| 04:47.43 | Amarande | it looks so lovely dead |
| 04:47.50 | MoonWitch | hell I usually don't even know what the inside of an instance looks like ;) |
| 04:48.26 | MoonWitch | 7Am here folks - I am going to bed |
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| 05:14.39 | Amarande | yay no more grinding reg PoS |
| 05:14.43 | Amarande | got the ring from HHoR instead :D |
| 05:15.43 | Amarande | now I only need boots and a trinket for [Epic] |
| 05:16.55 | Amarande | say |
| 05:17.11 | Amarande | is it possible for most classes/builds to get a full 232+ set out of heroics and badges only? |
| 05:17.27 | Amarande | or do you have 200-219 in some slots always until you actually hit raids? |
| 05:17.57 | MoonWitch | Amarande: I am decently geared, just have my 200 off hand :( |
| 05:18.13 | MoonWitch | (look up Ynarah Earthen Ring on EU servers) |
| 05:19.28 | MoonWitch | yes I suck in going to bed .... I know |
| 05:20.20 | Amarande | I'm also told by EG I'm geared enough to start dipping my feet into ICC10 |
| 05:20.23 | Zyn | my warlock alt is decked out in epics from just heroics and badges, but then just like MoonWitch, I am still stuck with an ilvl 200 offhand |
| 05:20.33 | Amarande | is EG overly optimistic or are ICC PUGs overly demanding |
| 05:20.38 | Amarande | (the latter, I think, though I can't be sure it's not both) |
| 05:20.45 | MoonWitch | latter |
| 05:20.57 | Amarande | so average ilvl 225 is good enough for ICC10? |
| 05:21.13 | Amarande | Zyn: I think there's a good caster off hand in HHoR |
| 05:21.47 | MoonWitch | earthen ring EU -ppl even demand your GS to be over 5.5k and/or dps over 6k to be allowed to ROLL on items (told em good luck in finding healers when they demand a specific dps count to roll) |
| 05:22.02 | Zyn | http://www.wowhead.com/item=50309 , it just doesnt want to drop ;[ |
| 05:22.10 | MoonWitch | yah there is .. It's just crap in wanting to drop ... /me curses RNG |
| 05:23.12 | Amarande | wait, they demand you have gear in order to get gear? |
| 05:23.14 | Amarande | um |
| 05:23.20 | Amarande | isn't the whole point of raiding to GET gear? |
| 05:23.20 | MoonWitch | exactly |
| 05:23.26 | MoonWitch | sad huh? |
| 05:23.38 | MoonWitch | especially the DPS requirement to be allowed to roll |
| 05:23.45 | Amarande | unless your raids really are run by a cartel of ICC-pattern sporting crafters who are trying to all but force people to buy 264 BoEs in order to raid |
| 05:23.55 | Amarande | how else are you going to get 5.5k GS without actually getting the drops from ICC? |
| 05:24.04 | MoonWitch | i think that particular group looked for 4 healers for an hour |
| 05:24.08 | MoonWitch | I know |
| 05:24.16 | Amarande | so on earthen ring EU, there's basically a 25,000+g entry fee for raiding? |
| 05:24.29 | MoonWitch | not with everyone |
| 05:24.33 | MoonWitch | but for pug groups yep |
| 05:24.56 | Amarande | your PUGs must fail all the time |
| 05:25.01 | MoonWitch | we usually pug one or two players.. we only ask em to be sensible and at least know the tactics a little |
| 05:25.04 | Amarande | there's no way you can get 25k from instancing, with repair bills and such |
| 05:25.07 | MoonWitch | generally - yes |
| 05:25.18 | Amarande | your PUGs must be full of people whose main asset is knowing how to do 25 dailies a day |
| 05:25.24 | Amarande | on multiple toons |
| 05:25.41 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 05:25.47 | Amarande | hell, I'm almost reaching the max (bar frost badge stuff) of what you can get without raiding, and I don't even have my epic flying or dual spec yet :P |
| 05:25.54 | MoonWitch | I'm still hoping to find a pug for ulduar/totc 10 |
| 05:26.12 | Amarande | and my GS is only around 4.7k I think |
| 05:26.16 | MoonWitch | and actually FINISH it |
| 05:26.32 | MoonWitch | I don't know what my gs is |
| 05:26.36 | Amarande | otoh, there's plenty of people who've seen me DPS in instances and know I can walk the walk and not just talk the talk as a DK |
| 05:26.37 | MoonWitch | don't care about it either |
| 05:27.00 | Amarande | hell, I even know the situations in which DG should be used as a DPS DK |
| 05:27.11 | MoonWitch | dg? |
| 05:27.14 | Amarande | death grip |
| 05:27.15 | MoonWitch | oh |
| 05:27.16 | MoonWitch | nvm |
| 05:27.18 | Amarande | almost always used only by tanks |
| 05:27.24 | MoonWitch | no clue |
| 05:27.33 | Amarande | there aren't many cases where a DPS DK should, but there's at least one I know of where it helps a LOT, particularly if you have a lot of AoE DPS |
| 05:27.34 | MoonWitch | < disc priest |
| 05:27.38 | Amarande | that would be in the Pit of Saron |
| 05:27.52 | Amarande | the 2 coldwraith/skeleton groups on the way to the happy fun tunnel o' doomy icicle doom |
| 05:28.04 | MoonWitch | my dps isn't great but it's about 4.5k to 5.5k depending on buffs which isn't bad as offspec |
| 05:28.17 | MoonWitch | oh god yes |
| 05:28.20 | Amarande | once it's pulled, it's a good idea for a DPS DK (if the tank isn't a DK) to DG the second Coldwraith in |
| 05:28.21 | MoonWitch | the hell tunnel of doom |
| 05:28.27 | Amarande | otherwise, he stands separate from the others and slows you down |
| 05:28.28 | Wobin | http://mendel.soup.io/post/50708675/Image |
| 05:28.31 | Wobin | >< |
| 05:28.40 | Amarande | because as a caster he won't come with the skeletons |
| 05:28.51 | Amarande | btw |
| 05:29.03 | Amarande | you think mages will ever get that freezing circle spell that coldwraiths and outland naga mages use? |
| 05:29.19 | Wobin | Amarande, actually no |
| 05:29.28 | Wobin | it's better to shackle the outlier |
| 05:29.37 | Wobin | that way you don't get two hellfiring mobs |
| 05:33.31 | MoonWitch | yeah looks like i'll be pugging icc again *sigh* |
| 05:33.45 | MoonWitch | really getting annoyed at only going up to fester/rot with the guild |
| 05:34.06 | MoonWitch | (I hate being ready at 19.30 at the stone, waiting for the last to show up and hour later) |
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| 05:43.41 | MoonWitch | who was the disc priest in here again? |
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| 05:50.46 | Wobin | me? |
| 05:50.55 | MoonWitch | yeah it was you! |
| 05:51.06 | MoonWitch | do you value spirit over haste? |
| 05:51.07 | Wobin | bubbles and hides |
| 05:51.25 | MoonWitch | (I'm having a hard time seeing value in spirit tbh) |
| 05:51.29 | Wobin | technically, raid healing disc priests have a haste cap |
| 05:51.34 | Wobin | of 11% |
| 05:51.40 | MoonWitch | well fuck |
| 05:51.48 | MoonWitch | lol then I am practically there >.< |
| 05:51.52 | Wobin | but it's a suggested cap depending on your healing style |
| 05:52.00 | Wobin | it's what gives a gcd PW:S |
| 05:52.06 | MoonWitch | I'm a bubbler |
| 05:52.15 | Wobin | learn to abuse Rapture =) |
| 05:52.26 | MoonWitch | (PWS glyph) |
| 05:52.40 | MoonWitch | so I usually get DA on my targets |
| 05:52.49 | Wobin | it takes a little bit of practise and figuring out timing, but can be quite effective |
| 05:52.50 | MoonWitch | thus having a little less use of rapture |
| 05:52.55 | Wobin | ?? |
| 05:53.01 | MoonWitch | DA |
| 05:53.05 | Wobin | Rapture is the mana gain from the full absorption of the shield |
| 05:53.08 | MoonWitch | I know |
| 05:53.17 | Wobin | DA is an absorption shield |
| 05:53.21 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 05:53.22 | Wobin | it has nothing to do with mana gain |
| 05:53.32 | Wobin | so really, you want to focus on crit and SP |
| 05:53.37 | Wobin | if you want better DA |
| 05:53.51 | MoonWitch | but if your target has DA cuz pws glyph, your PWS won't always be used up to proc rapture |
| 05:54.19 | MoonWitch | or at least that's how it feels on my mana bar :) |
| 05:54.19 | Wobin | which has priority? |
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| 05:54.35 | Wobin | no I mean abuse rapture by abusing the boss mechanics |
| 05:54.47 | MoonWitch | since I am generally stuck with raid healing, I'd rather have effective shields |
| 05:54.53 | Wobin | yes precisely |
| 05:54.54 | MoonWitch | (thus crit + sp) |
| 05:55.07 | Wobin | if you get a boss aoe that does more than a shield's worth of damage |
| 05:55.10 | Wobin | bubble the raid |
| 05:55.14 | MoonWitch | well yeah |
| 05:55.17 | Wobin | and you'll get every single shield's worth of rapture |
| 05:55.25 | Wobin | if they all pop simulatneously |
| 05:55.36 | MoonWitch | per bubble pop i get about 760mana i think |
| 05:55.44 | Wobin | 2.5% |
| 05:55.46 | Wobin | of max mana |
| 05:55.54 | MoonWitch | yeah I know |
| 05:56.13 | MoonWitch | in a 25man with all possible buffs my mana is about 32k |
| 05:56.35 | Wobin | if all you're doing is bubbling |
| 05:56.41 | Wobin | (which is about right in a 25man) |
| 05:56.48 | Wobin | (oh god that's irritating) |
| 05:56.49 | MoonWitch | (and renew + pom on tank) |
| 05:56.57 | MoonWitch | what is irritating? |
| 05:57.00 | Wobin | then yeah, all you -really- need is 11% haste |
| 05:57.02 | MoonWitch | bubbling ALL night |
| 05:57.04 | Torhal | (talking like this I think) |
| 05:57.17 | Amarande | wtf. |
| 05:57.19 | Amarande | 3/3 subversion |
| 05:57.20 | Amarande | blood presence |
| 05:57.24 | Wobin | (PW:Sx9 + PoM)* |
| 05:57.28 | Amarande | and I still fucking pull aggro off the tank and get killed by bronjahm |
| 05:57.29 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 05:57.30 | Amarande | wtf? |
| 05:57.40 | MoonWitch | that's pretty much my setup |
| 05:57.43 | Torhal | Amarande: Tank has it out for you? |
| 05:57.45 | Amarande | and I saw the hunter pulling aggro off the tank on an earlier pull |
| 05:57.48 | MoonWitch | tho on bosses i also help on tanks |
| 05:57.52 | Wobin | yeah, I find that a bit boring =( |
| 05:57.54 | Amarande | Torhal: no, I think the tank might just suck. :| |
| 05:57.59 | Torhal | Shitty tank |
| 05:58.00 | Amarande | given that I'm not the only one I've seen on top of omen. |
| 05:58.01 | Torhal | Yah |
| 05:58.10 | MoonWitch | and on deathwhisper if it's with darnavan, i heal the darn kiter |
| 05:58.11 | Wobin | I prefer 10man, there's a bit more variety in the healing |
| 05:58.22 | MoonWitch | we run with 3 healers in 10 man |
| 05:58.32 | MoonWitch | can't get more boring then that ya know |
| 05:58.40 | Wobin | we do too, although I often switch out as dps on some bosses |
| 05:58.44 | Wobin | and on the trash |
| 05:58.52 | MoonWitch | so i get hopes up for dps a little .. but the holy priest always gets the dps job :( |
| 05:59.08 | Amarande | and now our healer is oom and bronjahm still has about 700k remaining |
| 05:59.10 | Amarande | *rolleyes* |
| 05:59.13 | MoonWitch | I actually made a shadow priest, guild needed an extra healer - hated holy - went disc .. still stuck :( |
| 05:59.29 | Wobin | Amarande, are people -not- killing the spirit clones? |
| 06:00.57 | Audio | I have the name of a frame saved as a string in a table, how can I manipulate the frame from the string |
| 06:01.03 | MoonWitch | Wobin : http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&cn=Ynarah&gn=Dark+Wanderers |
| 06:01.18 | Torhal | Audio: G[framename] |
| 06:01.25 | Amarande | wobin: there wasn't enough dps left to do it |
| 06:01.36 | Amarande | I died like almost right away because the tank couldn't hold aggro and I got omggibbed |
| 06:01.38 | Wobin | MoonWitch, in any case, for 25mans, I'd suggest, that once you hit 11% haste, and you're not looking at SP or crit, I would probably still go haste, since spirit isn't as much use to us as we shouldn't be OFSR |
| 06:01.42 | Amarande | and seeing as I HAVE THE THREAT REDUCING TALENT |
| 06:01.43 | Torhal | Since it's a string, G["framename"] |
| 06:01.46 | Amarande | tank fail. |
| 06:01.57 | Amarande | and he has odd chars in his name so I can't type it out to kick him either *sigh* |
| 06:01.58 | Torhal | Amarande: Bullet to the head. Only cure. |
| 06:02.06 | Wobin | Amarande, rightclick menu? |
| 06:02.12 | MoonWitch | I generally stack SP > Int > crit |
| 06:02.16 | Torhal | Wobin: No! Inconceivable! |
| 06:02.17 | MoonWitch | haste is almost 12% |
| 06:02.32 | Wobin | personally, as I'm more 10man, I like haste |
| 06:02.46 | Wobin | having a 1.9 second PoH with borrowed time is nice |
| 06:02.53 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 06:03.03 | MoonWitch | that's the biggest mana drain |
| 06:03.11 | MoonWitch | ppl expect me to chaincast poh |
| 06:03.17 | MoonWitch | which is just /facepalm |
| 06:03.18 | Wobin | we don't get any bonuses from spirit |
| 06:03.21 | MoonWitch | nope |
| 06:03.27 | MoonWitch | anyhow -- I gots to go |
| 06:03.29 | MoonWitch | talk later? |
| 06:03.30 | Wobin | cya |
| 06:03.31 | Wobin | sure |
| 06:03.33 | Wobin | sleep well |
| 06:03.36 | MoonWitch | you too |
| 06:03.44 | MoonWitch | and .. |
| 06:03.51 | MoonWitch | purrs at Cairenn. |
| 06:04.00 | Cairenn | sweet dreams MoonWitch :) |
| 06:04.06 | MoonWitch | wait you're here? |
| 06:04.07 | Cairenn | tucks Moony in |
| 06:04.08 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 06:04.18 | MoonWitch | nite nite |
| 06:04.27 | Amarande | wobin: I usually have pitbull on click-thru on 5 mans :S |
| 06:04.33 | Amarande | oh wait, there's F2 |
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| 06:05.35 | Wobin | or ask someone else to initiate the vote =) |
| 06:14.01 | Audio | thanks Torhal |
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| 06:16.03 | Amarande | oh, god, the vote to kick him failed and he's claiming I'm at fault for "not burning the soul fragments fast enough" |
| 06:16.05 | Amarande | and the hunter is defending him |
| 06:16.14 | Amarande | despite the fact that his gear is shitty as can be and he's been to like ONE heroic |
| 06:16.19 | Torhal | Welcome to FailPuG. |
| 06:19.20 | Wobin | Amarande, get out while you still can =P |
| 06:19.36 | Wobin | or wait for them to kick you |
| 06:20.23 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 06:20.25 | Fisker | i missed you |
| 06:21.00 | Wobin | turns off the blur suit |
| 06:21.42 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: use a better scope next time |
| 06:22.03 | Fisker | you say i stalk him? |
| 06:25.17 | Fisker | zarhym just locked himself in a corner |
| 06:25.27 | Fisker | "Just to be clear, there's a difference between a mod telling you what needs to happen versus showing you." |
| 06:25.47 | Fisker | 3.3.6 DBM and DXE disabled |
| 06:25.48 | Fisker | kek |
| 06:25.56 | Fisker | also BigWigs actually |
| 06:27.28 | Wobin | well BW tells you |
| 06:27.32 | Wobin | but doesn't show you |
| 06:27.41 | Wobin | and hudmap shows you |
| 06:27.41 | Fisker | range check = shows you! |
| 06:28.00 | Wobin | range check tells you |
| 06:28.12 | Wobin | it says you -are- in range |
| 06:28.13 | Fisker | hudmap isn't getting banned Wobin |
| 06:28.16 | Wobin | not -how- you're in range |
| 06:28.28 | Wobin | well, just saying, that hud map -shows- according to that definition =) |
| 06:28.48 | Fisker | yeah |
| 06:28.59 | Fisker | actually no |
| 06:29.03 | Fisker | :3 |
| 06:29.10 | Fisker | Depends on your definition of showing |
| 06:29.17 | Wobin | truedat =) |
| 06:29.49 | Fisker | but actually |
| 06:29.57 | Fisker | with that statement |
| 06:30.06 | Fisker | It seems they're ok with mods telling you where to go then |
| 06:30.10 | Fisker | big fucking arrow inc. |
| 06:30.45 | Antiarc | hey Kaelten |
| 06:30.56 | Antiarc | I have a suggestion for Wowace/Curseforge |
| 06:30.57 | Fisker | AVR/Hudmap doesn't show you what needs to happen, it just tells you what needs to happen in a superior way over bossmods |
| 06:31.07 | Fisker | DXE and DBM has an arrow pointing where you should go |
| 06:31.11 | Antiarc | Implement an XMPP bot to message subscriptions to me |
| 06:31.14 | Fisker | (In some fights anyway) |
| 06:31.49 | Fisker | But if DXE and DBM were to continue that trend, then it would be them actually making encounters "easy", not hudmap or avr |
| 06:36.02 | Amarande | yay |
| 06:36.08 | Amarande | somehow that tank managed it after all |
| 06:36.14 | Amarande | but it wasn't comfortable and much slower than usual |
| 06:36.23 | Amarande | we actually only had one wipe on devourer, wow |
| 06:36.55 | Amarande | I don't usually have to use lifeblood and a pot there though :) |
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| 06:38.30 | Amarande | to the tank's credit, he did know the fights |
| 06:38.37 | Amarande | apparently he wasn't even expecting to do FoS already |
| 06:38.44 | Amarande | he wanted to do a random for badges and got dumped in there, somehow |
| 06:39.04 | Amarande | I was not in my usual form ... only about 2.5k DPS on devourer but I was too concerned with being not dead :| |
| 06:44.20 | Amarande | so are the Vrykul actually naturally evil, or slaves? |
| 06:44.55 | Xyphoid | no, they're protohumans |
| 06:52.48 | Wobin | they're not evil |
| 06:52.51 | Wobin | they're just drawn that way |
| 06:54.52 | Amarande | ok, also, how do they really expect us to get some of these herb/mining nodes in icecrown |
| 06:54.57 | Amarande | or are they just for decoration basically? |
| 06:55.04 | Amarande | the mobs just keep coming and coming so you can never have three seconds to gather it |
| 06:55.09 | Amarande | eventually you die from sheer numbers |
| 06:55.51 | Amarande | and if I can't do it as a T9 DPS DK, who can? |
| 06:58.51 | Amarande | or are we actually not really meant to get nodes in central IC unless we're in a raid grp headed for ICC heh |
| 07:00.51 | Fisker | fucking Wobin how do they work? |
| 07:00.56 | Fisker | Wobins* |
| 07:04.11 | Wobin | Amarande, You can as a -T9 Tanking DK |
| 07:04.21 | Wobin | I can as ulduar 10 geared |
| 07:06.06 | Amarande | C'MON DISK STOP THRASHING AND RELOAD WOW |
| 07:06.19 | Fisker | k |
| 07:06.36 | Fisker | thinks Amarande should calm the fuck down before he gets put down |
| 07:07.55 | Zyn | farts |
| 07:08.34 | Zyn | http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/13/1274976293/humancentipedemadness.jpg |
| 07:09.39 | Amarande | Fisker: bah |
| 07:09.46 | Amarande | I got desynced in PoS |
| 07:09.56 | Amarande | and the tank snarks "do we have any real DPS here" because the other DPS aren't nearly as geared as me :| |
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| 07:10.08 | Amarande | and I'm doing 1700 because only Howling Blast and Icy Touch are landing |
| 07:10.17 | Fisker | :o |
| 07:10.37 | Amarande | and it takes WAY too bloody long to process the alt-f4 because it's too busy wasting time HD thrashing |
| 07:10.49 | Amarande | can't buy more ram right now anyway |
| 07:11.08 | Amarande | don't know if my other 2 slots work, and the upgrades just got back burnered even further because work decided it would be cute to cut people's hours for the summer |
| 07:12.14 | Amarande | I mean, c'mon, the summer, the time when people have vacations etc. planned and probably partially paid for by now so they can't back out |
| 07:12.16 | Amarande | and they cut hours? wtf |
| 07:13.05 | Amarande | and my psychiatrist wants me to get blood work to make sure the meds aren't killing my liver or kidneys ... oy vey |
| 07:13.27 | Amarande | I may have to skip out on the blood work :| |
| 07:14.23 | Amarande | 'specially since they jacked up my doctor bill too |
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| 07:17.05 | Amarande | wow this is news |
| 07:17.09 | Amarande | no ranged dps on garfrost heroic = wipe? |
| 07:18.54 | Corrodias | GARfrost, that's a good name |
| 07:20.11 | Amarande | but apparently, yeah, if there's no ranged dps eventually you just dot to death |
| 07:20.21 | Amarande | there MUST BE a ranged or he won't throw rocks and perma stuck is infinite |
| 07:20.33 | Amarande | weird. |
| 07:20.43 | Amarande | never seen a heroic that required a particular subtype of dps before in LK |
| 07:22.21 | Fisker | i came |
| 07:22.39 | Corrodias | an interesting point. who doesn't have ranged dps capability, again? |
| 07:23.07 | Fisker | just have the healer not stand in melee? |
| 07:23.08 | Corrodias | i think warriors and rogues have a tougher time of it, but i think they can technically use bows or something, right? |
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| 07:31.49 | Wobin | Corrodias, that's like saying "Hunter can just melee, can't they?" |
| 07:32.01 | Xyphoid | what, doesn't he throw at the healer? |
| 07:32.12 | Xyphoid | he usually chucks it at my shaman |
| 07:32.27 | Corrodias | they actually can quite reasonably, if required... better, i suspect, than a rogue can do ranged |
| 07:32.38 | Corrodias | the output is absolutely higher than 0 dps |
| 07:33.39 | airtonix | Fisker, no one listens to logic from a troll |
| 07:34.49 | Fisker | great thing i'm not a troll then |
| 07:36.44 | Wobin | btw |
| 07:36.49 | Wobin | pally could be healer not ranged |
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| 07:37.28 | Wobin | omg Antiarc |
| 07:37.36 | Wobin | I love the role icons on hudmap |
| 07:37.53 | Xyphoid | with a pally you don't really need the rocks anyway |
| 07:38.36 | Antiarc | Wobin: :) |
| 07:38.43 | Antiarc | I thought that was a neat feature |
| 07:39.17 | Fisker | slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:42.25 | Wobin | what does it offer under Deathwhisper? |
| 07:42.36 | Antiarc | Just circles on mind controlled folks |
| 07:42.43 | Antiarc | Ghosts, unfortunately, can't really be projecte |
| 07:42.44 | Antiarc | projected |
| 07:57.27 | Amarande | yay got my second piece towards my tank set |
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| 08:04.26 | cogwheel | http://blog.cogwheel.info/2010/05/gimme-my-gamut.html |
| 08:06.23 | Amarande | yay, pustulant giants. |
| 08:06.30 | Amarande | mobs where what you have to worry about *isn't* dying. |
| 08:06.57 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: interesting |
| 08:07.05 | mikma | cogwheel: you suck. + your blog sucks! code better addons! nyah! |
| 08:07.13 | cogwheel | TT |
| 08:08.06 | mikma | cogwheel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PBhD0SrnHA#t=0m05s |
| 08:08.10 | Fisker | stop being so cogwheel |
| 08:08.34 | cogwheel | nyah! |
| 08:09.03 | cogwheel | have you seen hwill hweaton anyhwere? |
| 08:09.40 | mikma | nope |
| 08:10.27 | mikma | hmm, that clip would make an awesome ringtone |
| 08:10.31 | mikma | let's see... |
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| 08:10.32 | Amarande | ahh, wil wheaton |
| 08:10.34 | Fisker | call the whambulance cogwheel |
| 08:10.36 | Amarande | the 24th century's Scrappy Doo |
| 08:11.49 | Corrodias | The Wesley is a similar trope to The Scrappy, except that in the case of The Wesley, the writers keep making a larger role for the character that nobody outside their staff actually likes |
| 08:12.16 | Amarande | Pustulant Giants: an elite a DPS DK *can* go toe to toe with, but you still have to keep going behind them anyway :S |
| 08:12.21 | Corrodias | i think The Scrappy does not require the character to get more screen time like that |
| 08:12.46 | mikma | i wanna level my rogue :( but i has no tiem or monez to play |
| 08:12.51 | mikma | cries a river |
| 08:13.43 | Amarande | the problem with those mobs apparently |
| 08:13.50 | Amarande | is that they give you a long knockback off a short leash heh |
| 08:14.12 | Amarande | and have the HP that if you don't keep running back behind them after each knockback |
| 08:14.15 | Amarande | the next one will evade them :P |
| 08:14.33 | Amarande | I need to level my rogue |
| 08:14.33 | Fisker | btw cogwheel |
| 08:14.35 | Fisker | fucking colors |
| 08:14.39 | Fisker | how do they work? |
| 08:14.41 | Amarande | all I keep doing with her is my daily Minor Inscription Research |
| 08:14.53 | cogwheel | i no rite? |
| 08:15.01 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 08:15.04 | zenzelezz | you know you ogle her |
| 08:15.21 | Fisker | btw are those monitors that also introduce yellow colors basically bs? :P |
| 08:15.44 | cogwheel | if you're colorblind or don't give a shit, sure :) |
| 08:16.11 | Fisker | i kill u |
| 08:16.16 | Fisker | irl |
| 08:16.16 | cogwheel | though, they'd be even better if the source material included yellow |
| 08:16.50 | cogwheel | actually, i have a dlp projector that uses a color wheel with red green blue yellow and white |
| 08:17.41 | cogwheel | it made a HUGE difference over the first one... Gold looked like some weird radioactive green metal, and fire looked demonic |
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| 08:18.00 | Fisker | anyway i'll just say you're wrong, the amount of megapixels are surely the most important thing |
| 08:18.25 | cogwheel | Do you want some gigabytes with your internets? |
| 08:18.36 | Fisker | makes the first Gigapixel camera |
| 08:18.45 | Fisker | i r rich |
| 08:19.13 | cogwheel | i so weird |
| 08:19.26 | cogwheel | "While je might not sais quois, I think je might ai une idéeâ¦" |
| 08:21.26 | Fisker | btw you can't transfer a character from a wotlk account to a classic account even if the character is just level 1? |
| 08:22.06 | msoul | you've got to be lvl 10 to transfer |
| 08:22.14 | Fisker | level 10 then |
| 08:22.21 | Fisker | you should catch my drift |
| 08:22.28 | msoul | rubbs eyes |
| 08:22.38 | Fisker | rubs penis |
| 08:22.40 | Fisker | es |
| 08:22.48 | msoul | too early for that |
| 08:22.56 | cogwheel | puts on a mask so he doesn't catch Fisker's drift |
| 08:22.59 | zenzelezz | what would a level 10 have that's worth transferring it? |
| 08:23.09 | Fisker | heirlooms |
| 08:23.09 | Fisker | :P |
| 08:23.13 | msoul | heh |
| 08:23.24 | Fisker | want to multibox a bit |
| 08:23.28 | Fisker | But i want to use heirlooms |
| 08:23.49 | Fisker | but my main chars end up leveling faster because of the heirlooms |
| 08:24.01 | Fisker | so i need all 3 to atleast have the exp gaining parts |
| 08:24.08 | Fisker | but i'm not paying to upgrade to tbc and wotlk :P |
| 08:25.24 | Fisker | die cog|sleep |
| 08:25.25 | Fisker | or goodnight |
| 08:25.26 | cog|sleep | Fisker: your mom keeps trying to break in. I told her enough already. |
| 08:25.29 | Fisker | whatever floats your boat |
| 08:25.49 | cog|sleep | or nn |
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| 08:28.44 | mikma | so.. we have this video |
| 08:28.53 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9szn1QQfas .. it's 360p as default |
| 08:29.09 | mikma | but when we add &fmt=18 after the url itäs 480p |
| 08:29.17 | mikma | &fmt=22 is 720p |
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| 08:29.47 | airtonix | &fmt=fisker ? |
| 08:30.01 | Fisker | FUCKING INSTALLERS STOP POPPING UP WHEN I'M WRITING SHIT |
| 08:30.12 | airtonix | thats what it does then |
| 08:30.21 | airtonix | ownge sploits |
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| 08:30.41 | Fisker | should be illegal in the butt airtonix |
| 08:30.50 | airtonix | only if balls are touching |
| 08:34.51 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9szn1QQfas&fmt=37 <- &fmt=37 is 1080p :) |
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| 08:39.46 | Amarande | gah fuck you "in combat" bugging |
| 08:39.49 | Amarande | now I have to alt-f4 AGAIN |
| 08:40.37 | Amarande | you know, why don't they just get rid of the whole "in combat" flag and just make stuff that formerly couldn't be done in combat be hard interruptible instead? |
| 08:41.15 | Amarande | or would that cause nasty security breaches of the type that would let bots in? |
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| 08:44.01 | Antiarc | You weren't around during the Molten Core days, were you? :P |
| 08:44.26 | wereHamster | oh the good ol' days |
| 08:44.28 | Amarande | Nope. |
| 08:44.36 | Antiarc | Two words: OOC rezzer. :P |
| 08:44.50 | Torhal | Amarande: I never ALT-F4. I wait the 30 seconds to one minute and it falls off. |
| 08:45.07 | Amarande | Torhal: I was getting rather short on health, I didn't want to wait around for repops |
| 08:45.14 | Zyn | the "good" old days ... oh how I loved to play Paladin in vanilla ... Flash of Light bound to every button possible |
| 08:45.19 | Amarande | jumping was death, couldn't get on the flying mount, couldn't eat, pots stay on CD now till you're out of combat |
| 08:45.55 | Zyn | hunters FD'ing midcombat to eat and drink |
| 08:45.56 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 08:46.13 | Amarande | although I suppose they have to treat botting in WoW like a *national security* concern at this point |
| 08:46.22 | Amarande | because otherwise they're pretty much creating a currency without the government's blessing |
| 08:46.26 | Amarande | I hate to think what the punishment for that is |
| 08:46.53 | Amarande | that's the sort of thing that destabilizes economies (especially if it can't be bookkept well enough for taxing) to the point that it probably makes you worse than a serial child molester though LOL |
| 08:47.59 | Amarande | I mean c'mon, who's *really* worse ... Jeffrey Dahmer or Arthas (if the latter was real) ... I think there's a point where you have to say Arthas :P |
| 08:49.06 | Amarande | on a lighter point |
| 08:49.13 | Amarande | dear god, I thought the mob density was high in Hellfire |
| 08:49.18 | Amarande | that was before I came to Icecrown |
| 08:53.44 | Amarande | this quest was great fun though and is dailyable so that makes up for it. partly. :D |
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| 09:04.55 | mikma | cog|sleep: http://mikma.eu/nokia/Family_Guy-_-Nyah.mp3 |
| 09:05.07 | mikma | whops, "-_-" :D |
| 09:05.34 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/nokia/Family_Guy_-_Nyah.mp3 .. hehe |
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| 09:10.09 | airtonix | hello new ringtone |
| 09:18.03 | Torhal | pours hot grits down Fisker's pants. |
| 09:19.39 | Fisker | why do you attack me? |
| 09:22.08 | Wobin | I herd u lieked mudgrits |
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| 09:26.02 | airtonix | Antiarc, http://www.wowace.com/addons/fontain/ << i forget if i need to install extra sharedmedia stuff for this ? |
| 09:26.10 | Antiarc | Probably |
| 09:26.21 | airtonix | like if i want my own fonts right ? |
| 09:27.25 | Antiarc | yeah |
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| 09:55.12 | airtonix | anyone here using Broker_DurabilityInfo ? |
| 09:55.57 | airtonix | from memory i think it has quite a detailed tooltip info... but the wowace page does not show this tooltip, only the broker icon. |
| 10:00.31 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR8C4GsF-dw&fmt=18 |
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| 10:26.47 | zenzelezz | WoW on my first warrior back in classic, questing in Stranglethorn: "[...] whispers: wanna tank XX?" |
| 10:27.09 | zenzelezz | WoW on a hunter now, questing in Stranglethorn: "[...] whispers: want free boost?" (level 80 druid in SM) |
| 10:35.53 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/98844 |
| 10:39.18 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/nokia/Hardknox_-_Fire_Like_This.mp3 |
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| 10:49.23 | zenzelezz | I wish they hadn't made Bloodsail Admiral an achievement... Booty Bay's so full of people killing the NPCs now |
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| 11:03.46 | airtonix | lol |
| 11:04.23 | airtonix | did that as a holy priest before they made it easy |
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| 11:06.06 | airtonix | only went for it because i thought it suited my toons name : Bloodsail Admiral Smee |
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| 11:10.17 | DWSR | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Boyardee |
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| 11:38.21 | Shirik | hey |
| 11:38.25 | Shirik | DWSR |
| 11:38.28 | Shirik | who do you think you are |
| 11:39.42 | DWSR | Who do you think I am? |
| 11:39.57 | Shirik | I think you are not who you think you are |
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| 11:42.20 | Jerub | what's a non-fail rotation for eoe phase 3? |
| 11:42.29 | Jerub | eoe is weekly raid :( |
| 11:42.38 | Jerub | 111121114 or something isn't it? |
| 11:42.45 | mikma | sound good |
| 11:42.52 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:42.56 | Wobin | as long as you're all grouped up |
| 11:43.02 | Shirik | 12345678 |
| 11:43.06 | mikma | actually |
| 11:43.13 | mikma | 1112 1112 1112 |
| 11:43.31 | mikma | you need to point some healers there so people can nuke the living shit out |
| 11:43.54 | Jerub | mikma: i find that never works. |
| 11:44.02 | Jerub | everyone healing works |
| 11:44.46 | Jerub | i just don't remember the right rotation |
| 11:45.33 | Wobin | as long as people group up |
| 11:45.38 | Wobin | move away and shield if focused |
| 11:45.41 | Wobin | and shift as a group |
| 11:45.50 | Wobin | it's pretty straightforward |
| 11:46.13 | Wobin | and don't take too long with the previous phases =) |
| 11:46.16 | mikma | jerub: i've never seen that fail tbh, we have always had good dedicated healers with us |
| 11:48.53 | Jerub | we'll see if we fail to fail. :) |
| 11:49.03 | Jerub | donig this on my undergeared mage alt |
| 11:57.34 | Shirik | Jerub |
| 11:57.39 | Shirik | try 22212221 |
| 11:59.33 | Shirik | "Who do you expect to write a more neutral article about Hitler? Someone who never met him, or his right hand man?" |
| 11:59.38 | Shirik | Does this count as godwinning? |
| 12:02.10 | Jerub | lol, the tank and i did most of the healing |
| 12:02.22 | Jerub | i just ended up doing 11114 |
| 12:04.04 | Shirik | shoulda done 2221 |
| 12:04.06 | Shirik | tellin ya |
| 12:04.27 | DWSR | btw, good rotation is 11(1)2. |
| 12:04.28 | DWSR | For DPS. |
| 12:04.34 | Shirik | ~wiki Talk:Kolkhozobod |
| 12:04.34 | DWSR | or s/2/4/ for healing. |
| 12:05.38 | Shirik | ^ sounds like the guy from the beginning of the circle of life |
| 12:05.50 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 12:05.53 | Shirik | well I'm not sure how you pronounce ) |
| 12:05.55 | Shirik | but the rest of it |
| 12:06.06 | DWSR | Shirik: make a click sound with your tongue/. |
| 12:06.08 | DWSR | I think. |
| 12:06.18 | Shirik | oh! |
| 12:06.24 | Shirik | You know there's really a way to spell that? |
| 12:06.32 | Shirik | you're supposed to use a ! |
| 12:06.45 | Shirik | there's also a character for it, but for typical roman characters you just use ! |
| 12:07.03 | DWSR | yeah, I know. :P |
| 12:07.09 | Shirik | I found that out recently :( |
| 12:07.17 | DWSR | I found that out years ago. |
| 12:07.19 | DWSR | Russell Peters. |
| 12:07.30 | Shirik | eh |
| 12:07.31 | Shirik | wat |
| 12:07.32 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkoQKGY-CY8 |
| 12:08.08 | DWSR | a/v desynch, but the audio's good. |
| 12:10.21 | Shirik | 90% of videos on youtube aren't synced properly |
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| 12:10.55 | DWSR | Their HTML5 player seems to be sub-par atm. |
| 12:10.58 | DWSR | But anyway, you get the picture. |
| 12:11.08 | Shirik | they're using HTML5? |
| 12:11.58 | DWSR | Newer uploads. |
| 12:12.13 | DWSR | You'll notice that the player style between the Flash and HTML5 players is different. |
| 12:12.28 | DWSR | If you're using the newer one, the progress bar is on top and much thinner. |
| 12:12.32 | Shirik | so that's why it keeps going back and forth |
| 12:12.35 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 12:13.22 | DWSR | I'm sure there's a factoid about it. |
| 12:13.24 | DWSR | Hold on. |
| 12:14.00 | DWSR | Oh yeah, here it is. |
| 12:14.02 | DWSR | ~failrik |
| 12:14.03 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 12:14.19 | DWSR | Welcome to 2 years ago. |
| 12:14.21 | Shirik | :< |
| 12:20.54 | DWSR | !g HTML5 Youtube |
| 12:20.54 | batbot | DWSR: HTML5 Video - YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. <http://www.youtube.com/html5> |
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| 12:32.46 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/98865 , http://imagebin.org/98866 |
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| 12:34.45 | harl | hallo |
| 12:42.13 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:49.20 | Fisker | Anyone found out how the facebook integration works in regards to Real ID? |
| 12:51.42 | foxlit | grumble, c++ |
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| 13:02.55 | Adys | who was it who had a samsung r7xx laptop? |
| 13:02.57 | Adys | airtonix? |
| 13:04.36 | airtonix | not me i have a hp mini 311 netbook |
| 13:05.00 | airtonix | whole thing is nvidia encased in a hp shell |
| 13:05.27 | airtonix | cept the processor and wifi |
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| 13:22.22 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/28/funny-pictures-cat-massage/ |
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| 13:28.14 | zenzelezz | http://comixed.com/2010/05/29/4-koma-comic-strip-sayids-story/ |
| 13:28.44 | olafski | lol |
| 13:31.19 | airtonix | lulz |
| 13:44.47 | Fisker | btw zenzelezz |
| 13:44.50 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
| 13:50.02 | foxlit | totally illegal, fisk. |
| 14:02.09 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/98890 |
| 14:02.22 | airtonix | ^ encrypted bearer bonds |
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| 14:02.33 | airtonix | according to the movie "the losers" |
| 14:03.16 | airtonix | if thats the case, my /var/www is worth billions |
| 14:03.28 | Cide | start of header! |
| 14:03.33 | airtonix | OMG |
| 14:03.49 | airtonix | lulz |
| 14:05.50 | Fisker | they made that illegal foxlit? :( |
| 14:06.23 | airtonix | and this is how you open an encrypted bearer bond drive : |
| 14:06.26 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/98891 |
| 14:06.45 | airtonix | with netboot and traceroute |
| 14:06.49 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.00 | Fisker | netboot? |
| 14:07.07 | airtonix | apparently |
| 14:07.22 | airtonix | this is Movie Logic(tm) we are talkin about |
| 14:10.16 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 14:10.23 | Fisker | you're the cancer that's killing the internet |
| 14:10.27 | Fisker | so i presume you have facebook |
| 14:10.33 | Fisker | did you test how it worked in SC2 beta? |
| 14:21.01 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKythlXAIY&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:21.16 | Wobin | the most awesome marching band rendition of This Too Shall Pass |
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| 14:29.48 | Tuller | hrm, fascinating, I cannot log into the 3.3.5 ptr |
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| 14:36.30 | Nechckn | They are on to you, Tuller - Run.Now!! |
| 14:36.51 | airtonix | <blank stare> |
| 14:36.55 | airtonix | <blink> |
| 14:37.16 | Tuller | the ptr is probably just pulling my information from when my account was not there :P |
| 14:48.59 | airtonix | is it true that the 20th century has more mass murderers per year than any other century had per ten years ? |
| 14:49.29 | foxlit | What's a mass murderer? |
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| 14:49.52 | airtonix | good question |
| 14:50.21 | airtonix | someone with more than 1000 honour points |
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| 14:56.39 | miica | airtonix: i got over 9000 points |
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| 15:03.52 | miica | airtonix: and isnt adolf mass murder? |
| 15:05.36 | airtonix | 300k peasants dont count |
| 15:05.56 | airtonix | thats genocide |
| 15:06.04 | miica | stalin, napoleon? |
| 15:06.18 | airtonix | beyond the concept of mass murder in the domestic sense |
| 15:07.02 | miica | they were so pro that you dont even count them? |
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| 15:07.40 | airtonix | are you upset ? i sense some unhappiness would you like a rose ? |
| 15:08.19 | airtonix | you need not concern yourself with the topic, i am bored of it already |
| 15:14.51 | miica | make me kohona user login/regiser and management |
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| 15:42.09 | foxlit | "Raid An in-game activity wherein people who don't like each other team up to do bosses they hate for loot that doesn't drop." |
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| 15:47.29 | foxlit | "Fisker: so i presume you have facebook" |
| 15:47.33 | foxlit | I am insulted. |
| 15:49.00 | airtonix | but its true isnt it |
| 15:49.41 | foxlit | Lies. I'm staying away until someone makes myfacespacebook |
| 15:49.54 | foxlit | also, http://theoatmeal.com/facespace |
| 15:51.49 | airtonix | i think you released that primed up crunchline too soon |
| 15:52.47 | sylvanaar | have any of you played All Points Bulletin (the beta) |
| 15:52.59 | sylvanaar | or are any of you going to get it |
| 15:53.12 | sylvanaar | http://store.steampowered.com/app/57500/ |
| 15:56.15 | foxlit | Looks boring. |
| 15:56.51 | foxlit | The customization stuff might be mildly interesting from a technical standpoint, but I just can't imagine that gameplay being fun. |
| 15:56.59 | foxlit | (for me) |
| 16:01.58 | airtonix | can you make interface mods ? |
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| 16:09.50 | Fisker | imma kill ya |
| 16:10.10 | airtonix | such unfounded rage... |
| 16:10.11 | airtonix | my my |
| 16:10.57 | airtonix | releases a troops of baboons trained in psychological pharmacological medication |
| 16:13.00 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 16:13.09 | airtonix | so fisker... will come quietly or shall i have the baboons dose you ? |
| 16:13.36 | Fisker | your baboons are no match for my penis |
| 16:14.07 | airtonix | have you seen a arroused baboon with a syringe of cocaine ? |
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| 16:18.48 | zenzelezz | I want to personally shoot the person who made the quest to for the Aged Gorilla Sinew |
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| 16:21.32 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:25.10 | airtonix | maybe cocaine isn't the right ting to treat alzheimers |
| 16:30.59 | foxlit | Hey, Fisker. Does the evergreen stand a chance tonight? |
| 16:31.01 | zenzelezz | so after 43 gorilla kills, the item finally drops. I head to Booty Bay to hand in some other quests, and of course the NPCs are all dead again |
| 16:33.41 | airtonix | hilarious |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker | what evergreen? |
| 16:36.24 | Nechckn | Why they made them into huge targest is beyond me, zenzelezz... I hate when that happens, about the only good thing is that they usually respawn relatively quickly. |
| 16:39.33 | zenzelezz | Nechckn: yeah |
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| 16:51.53 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:52.08 | Fisker | damn Adys |
| 16:52.13 | Fisker | those mediums are faggots |
| 16:52.20 | Adys | which? |
| 16:52.25 | Fisker | that joe power guy |
| 16:52.29 | Adys | ah |
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| 16:52.42 | Fisker | good job asking a 40-50 year old if her dad is dead |
| 16:52.43 | Fisker | DUUUUUUUH |
| 16:52.45 | Adys | they're by far some of the most full of shit people to walk the earth |
| 16:54.25 | Fisker | i guess he'll argue that because derren primed her |
| 16:54.27 | Fisker | hoho |
| 16:54.32 | Fisker | haha yeah |
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| 17:02.28 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:02.50 | Fisker | "WTF I HAVE A SISTER?!" -Joe Power |
| 17:05.01 | Wobin | http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2010/01/catching-thieves-in-china.html |
| 17:05.04 | Wobin | still an awesome clip |
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| 17:07.41 | A-KO | Thunder_Child you around? |
| 17:07.47 | Thunder_Child | A-KO: si |
| 17:08.13 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 17:08.18 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
| 17:08.37 | Thunder_Child | i dont have a son...or a dog Fisker |
| 17:09.19 | foxlit | throws a NullPointerException at Fisker. |
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| 17:20.25 | Dashkal | Go old school. SIGSEGV him |
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| 17:35.45 | Thunder_Child | "[10:35:13] [2] [Mebankee]: wts [???]x5 [?????]x5 [????]x31 all for 600g" thats odd |
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| 17:37.03 | Adys | Thunder_Child: foreign client |
| 17:37.47 | Thunder_Child | Adys: they are clickable however, and link properly |
| 17:37.55 | Adys | yes |
| 17:38.00 | Adys | as i said, foreign client |
| 17:38.07 | Adys | the server accepts links in any language |
| 17:38.33 | Thunder_Child | why doesnt my client convert it then? |
| 17:38.58 | haste | it's just how it works |
| 17:39.07 | haste | the itemlinks include the item names |
| 17:39.08 | Adys | Thunder_Child: links are just text |
| 17:39.14 | Adys | formatted text |
| 17:39.27 | haste | which is why we could use them to fake link and color our text before |
| 17:39.41 | Adys | think of it as an <a href="http://google.com">http://google.gr</a> link |
| 17:39.50 | Adys | it wouldn't convert the text |
| 17:40.20 | Thunder_Child | your saying it cant be done, or that blizz simply doesnt do it? |
| 17:40.33 | haste | doesn't do it kinda |
| 17:40.40 | Adys | it could be done at the cost of extra processing |
| 17:40.52 | Adys | if it was done, i could eventually crash your client |
| 17:40.55 | haste | it would require the client to ask about the item name for every unknown item it encuontered |
| 17:40.55 | Adys | or grind it to a halt |
| 17:42.16 | Thunder_Child | but in the end it's just blizz right? i mean couldnt they add a regon/language flag in the links and convert it that way? |
| 17:43.19 | Adys | Thunder_Child: "it's not worth it" |
| 17:43.25 | Adys | and it does require extra processing |
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| 17:43.50 | Adys | eg i could spam link you with random spell/talent links |
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| 17:43.55 | Adys | that would crash you in no time |
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| 17:44.14 | Thunder_Child | Adys: you cant protect that flag? |
| 17:44.26 | Adys | sure but thats not the point |
| 17:44.34 | Adys | every time your client would encounter a foreign link |
| 17:44.44 | Adys | it would have to look it up in the relevant dbc |
| 17:44.46 | A-KO | You know it's funny how many people try to talk about WoW's lore progression but don't actually understand the way lore flows in WoW the game itself |
| 17:44.56 | Adys | that lookup costs very little time |
| 17:45.12 | Adys | but if i spam you with ~1500 random spell links in random languages |
| 17:45.16 | Adys | i can crash you, period |
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| 17:58.12 | Dagmar | I don't think that would crash the client. |
| 17:59.14 | Dagmar | The NA client (at least) appears to consider the matter done once it's checked it's one database. If the text in the link doesn't match the spell/achievement/whatever it's supposed to, it just dumps it's specialness as a link |
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| 18:12.22 | Fisker | you know what i would hate Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:12.54 | Cide | your own guys Fisker, your own guts |
| 18:12.56 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: an AI that filters trolls? |
| 18:13.45 | Cide | anyone good at photoshop here? |
| 18:14.04 | Fisker | yeah Cide |
| 18:14.11 | Fisker | naw Thunder_Child |
| 18:14.13 | Thunder_Child | possibly |
| 18:14.46 | Fisker | i would hate if the new iphone 4g would actually be functionality-wise up to par with current mobile phone technology |
| 18:16.04 | Fisker | imma consolefag and i can't computer |
| 18:16.10 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 18:16.15 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev (5d 5h 57m 50s) #sc2mapster (5d 5h 57m 50s) #wowuidev (5d 5h 57m 50s) #arl (5d 5h 57m 50s) #wowace (5d 5h 57m 50s) #curseforge (5d 5h 57m 50s) #wowwiki (5d 5h 57m 50s). Has said a total of 84 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 38m 46s, last said: 'QOTD: "Would love to have a three-way blaze session with Tom Petty and Willie Nelson, and I'm not even much of a ... |
| 18:16.24 | Thunder_Child | Cide: what did you need? |
| 18:16.28 | Cide | sec |
| 18:16.31 | Cide | playing sc2 |
| 18:16.45 | zenzelezz | photoshopping a victory is not the solution |
| 18:17.01 | Thunder_Child | then maybe you should have waited to ask the question.... |
| 18:17.09 | Fisker | yeah it can still be seen on the stats |
| 18:17.24 | Fisker | then maybe you should have answered a bit quicker Thunder_Child |
| 18:17.32 | Thunder_Child | i did Fisker |
| 18:17.40 | Fisker | i disagree |
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| 18:17.58 | Fisker | i will infact argue that it is impossible to do so |
| 18:19.59 | A-KO | Fisker: Unfortunately it looks like the new iphone for me, AT&T came back with a competitive offer against Sprint so I won't be moving to the Evo |
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| 18:22.43 | zenzelezz | http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2010/04/en-marche-camping-disaster.html - these people impress me |
| 18:25.46 | Fisker | dun dun dun? |
| 18:33.08 | olafski | holy photoshop zenzelezz |
| 18:35.26 | Thunder_Child | thats a really bad PS |
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| 18:41.06 | cog|sleep | gah |
| 18:41.19 | cog|sleep | i keep missing tuller by a couple minutes |
| 18:41.28 | olafski | according to the comments it was supposed to look like that though |
| 18:45.45 | Dashkal | hmm, I need to level my ah alt to 10 to see his auctions on the armory, don't I? |
| 18:46.48 | Adys | cogwheel: tuller? |
| 18:47.27 | cogwheel | yeah... we were talking about dexter a couple days ago and i had something to mention... >< |
| 18:47.54 | Adys | Oo |
| 18:48.03 | cogwheel | ~poke ady |
| 18:48.03 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ady, pokes ady repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:48.05 | cogwheel | +tab |
| 18:48.10 | cogwheel | ~fail me |
| 18:48.10 | purl | cogwheel: FAIL! |
| 18:48.54 | cogwheel | 11:38 -!- Tuller [~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] |
| 18:48.58 | cogwheel | that tuller... |
| 18:49.19 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_(TV_series) |
| 18:49.22 | cogwheel | and that dexter :) |
| 18:49.41 | cogwheel | fISKER |
| 18:51.13 | foxlit | multiple nydus worms + a heckload of banelings == awesome |
| 18:51.27 | industrial | need some help with xavante; https://gist.github.com/6dcfdc56b8e1122ec869/cb5a6d5bef21e15b6f93c8ef2100183c10466e97 |
| 18:52.29 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 18:52.37 | Fisker | w at up? |
| 18:52.38 | Fisker | wat* |
| 18:52.41 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 18:53.23 | cogwheel | also http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/07/05/captain-picard-is-a-pervert/ |
| 18:53.55 | Shirik | lol" |
| 18:53.56 | Shirik | "I am quite sure this was SUPPOSED to look like that but even then it is a major WTF. Is it a "Obamacare will steal your legs" kind of campaign?" |
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| 18:54.49 | cogwheel | Shirik: engineer me a full spectrum imaging & display system plox |
| 18:55.19 | Shirik | o.o |
| 18:55.21 | Shirik | no ty |
| 18:55.31 | cogwheel | http://blog.cogwheel.info/2010/05/gimme-my-gamut.html |
| 18:56.05 | Cide | ok so |
| 18:56.23 | Cide | say I have an image with a layer of a given color and a given transparency |
| 18:56.57 | Cide | now let's say I take this image and apply the color and transparency (<100%) as a layer above it and save it |
| 18:57.04 | Cide | can I get photoshop to do the inverse? |
| 18:57.43 | Cide | ^ Thunder_Child |
| 18:58.21 | cogwheel | go to the alpha channel and lighten it? |
| 18:58.46 | Thunder_Child | you should |
| 18:58.54 | Thunder_Child | fires up PS |
| 18:58.55 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 18:59.01 | Fisker | that's the first time i've seen that |
| 18:59.10 | Shirik | cogwheel |
| 18:59.10 | Fisker | my pet is getting the horde boat gunship cannon bar |
| 18:59.14 | Fisker | but i'm not in it |
| 18:59.15 | Shirik | that's not a real interview |
| 18:59.16 | Shirik | is it? |
| 18:59.16 | Fisker | O_o |
| 18:59.28 | cogwheel | Shirik: huh? |
| 18:59.34 | Shirik | picard |
| 18:59.38 | Fisker | and i can see when it's being used lol |
| 18:59.50 | cogwheel | "Patrick Stewart on Extras" |
| 19:01.11 | Cide | cogwheel: I save it as an image and not a psd |
| 19:01.16 | Cide | that is, I lose the layer information |
| 19:01.38 | Thunder_Child | Cide: like layer -> new adgjusment layer -> inverse? |
| 19:01.43 | Thunder_Child | adjustment* |
| 19:01.50 | industrial | noone here experience with xavante? jnwhiteh ? |
| 19:03.01 | cogwheel | isn't there a "channels" panel? or "convert to layer" or something... doesn't really matter what you do to the image, you can always save it in the original format. |
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| 19:03.20 | Cide | ... |
| 19:04.38 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/Mask.png |
| 19:04.42 | Cide | let's say I have that image |
| 19:04.54 | Cide | and I know that the top part is covered by a black mask of 30% opacity |
| 19:04.59 | industrial | steals it from Cide |
| 19:05.08 | Cide | can I get photoshop to restore the original image given that information? |
| 19:05.24 | foxlit | Cide: yes. |
| 19:05.25 | cogwheel | oh... |
| 19:05.30 | foxlit | Well, perhaps not photoshop. |
| 19:05.38 | foxlit | But you can use math. |
| 19:05.41 | Dewin | There'd be some loss, but I imagine yes |
| 19:05.43 | Cide | well yeah |
| 19:05.44 | cogwheel | it would lose some fidelity |
| 19:05.52 | cogwheel | types slow |
| 19:05.53 | Cide | hmm |
| 19:06.13 | Cide | unless some pixels got turned pure black by it I think it should be entirely one to one? |
| 19:06.23 | cogwheel | maybe just do the same to the other half and brighten the whole thing... |
| 19:06.31 | cogwheel | at least that way it would be consistent |
| 19:06.32 | foxlit | Cide: naively assume that the transformation is c' = 0.70 * c |
| 19:06.48 | Cide | well the math is trivial |
| 19:06.53 | Cide | I was hoping there was an easy way to do it |
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| 19:07.05 | foxlit | It won't quite be one to one. |
| 19:07.06 | Dewin | Cide: The problem is fi youo're only dealing with 256 levels of intensity, you discarded some when you reduced it by 70% |
| 19:07.09 | cogwheel | you mean like what i just said? ;) |
| 19:07.40 | Dewin | 248 * 0.7 = 173.6 173 / 0.7 = 247, for instance |
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| 19:08.02 | foxlit | 173.6 rounds up, though |
| 19:08.22 | Dewin | Debatable as to what way the rounding was done |
| 19:08.39 | Dewin | and if you want to use that argument, 174 / 0.7 = 258.57 which rounds to 259 |
| 19:08.44 | Dewin | err, 249 |
| 19:08.45 | Cide | right |
| 19:08.49 | Cide | so is this doable in photoshop? |
| 19:09.15 | Cide | the problem being that I don't know the exact color and transparency, but if it's doable in photoshop it should be possible to figure out the best match by hand |
| 19:09.31 | cogwheel | you could use a multiply blend |
| 19:09.36 | cogwheel | maybe? |
| 19:09.43 | Dewin | Cide: You can figure out the exact color and transparency based on trying to repeat it on the bottom half |
| 19:09.55 | Dewin | And once you know, you'd have the means to undo it. |
| 19:10.01 | cogwheel | that too |
| 19:10.38 | Dewin | You can probably use the details of the pixels on the very edge to get a pretty good hint |
| 19:10.43 | Dewin | i.e. right on the border |
| 19:10.55 | Cide | yep |
| 19:11.27 | Dewin | you might want to look at it from an HSL standpoint instead of RGB, though. |
| 19:12.50 | Cide | not sure that would help |
| 19:13.04 | Fisker | ehy cogwheel |
| 19:13.08 | Fisker | my mage is icc'ing |
| 19:14.28 | cogwheel | o |
| 19:14.35 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?cn=Fiskermagi&r=Ravencrest <-this is how horrible it is |
| 19:15.28 | Dewin | Cide: Actually, some quick playing around I'm doing is working pretty well |
| 19:16.02 | Dewin | It's definitely more than 30% though, a little over 50% it looks like |
| 19:16.22 | Dewin | 60% exactly. |
| 19:16.35 | Dewin | Want the fixed version? >.> |
| 19:17.09 | Dewin | I'm not a photoshop expert but you turned it into a math question, which made it easy. |
| 19:17.58 | Cide | it is 60% exactly, yes |
| 19:18.05 | Cide | I made the image so I don't need the fixed version |
| 19:18.09 | Dewin | Oh. |
| 19:18.34 | Dewin | What are you trying to accomplish, then? |
| 19:18.50 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/Mask%202.png |
| 19:18.58 | Cide | trying to get rid of the right side of that image |
| 19:19.03 | foxlit | "1 Mr. Bigglesworth kills. May 19, 2010" |
| 19:19.08 | foxlit | You monster. |
| 19:19.14 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:19.15 | Cide | except this time both the image and the transparency is unknown |
| 19:19.30 | Cide | err |
| 19:19.33 | Dewin | That is not loading right for me, I don't think. One second. |
| 19:19.34 | Cide | both the color and the transparency |
| 19:19.41 | Cide | takes a while to upload |
| 19:19.45 | Cide | should be up now |
| 19:19.51 | foxlit | a black rectangle? |
| 19:19.57 | Cide | it's not black |
| 19:20.03 | Dewin | yeah. I'm seeing a black rectangle with some fuzz on the end. |
| 19:20.11 | Fisker | one wouldn't buy photoshop without knowing how to use it |
| 19:20.27 | Dewin | Oh, I see, no it's not quite black when you zoom in |
| 19:20.38 | Dewin | and the fuzz is a lighter blue with some white dots |
| 19:21.21 | Cide | your monitor is bad then |
| 19:21.25 | Cide | open it in an editor |
| 19:21.27 | Cide | it's not black |
| 19:21.43 | Dewin | I know, it's a dark blue |
| 19:21.44 | Cide | #020614 specifically |
| 19:21.57 | Dewin | But I don't see what you're hoping to salvage from it. |
| 19:22.08 | Cide | well it's part of a bigger image |
| 19:22.11 | foxlit | there's basically no meaningful image there. |
| 19:22.34 | Cide | doesn't have to be |
| 19:30.59 | Thunder_Child | ah, got it |
| 19:31.14 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 19:31.49 | Thunder_Child | marquee around the darker area -> delete -> use = white mode = color dodge opacity = 60% |
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| 19:32.34 | Thunder_Child | s/marquee around the darker area -> delete -> use = white mode = color dodge opacity = 60%/ use = white, mode = color dodge, opacity = 60%/ |
| 19:32.40 | Thunder_Child | ....*sigh* |
| 19:32.45 | Thunder_Child | Cide: ^ |
| 19:33.24 | Thunder_Child | adjust to taste |
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| 19:35.42 | Cide | wait what? |
| 19:35.48 | Cide | marquee around the darker area -> delete? |
| 19:36.03 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea, i just scroleld up, it was not what i thought you wanted |
| 19:36.07 | Thunder_Child | scrolled up* |
| 19:36.15 | Cide | well what did you mean? |
| 19:36.23 | Thunder_Child | i thought you were trying to get rid of the darker area |
| 19:36.33 | Thunder_Child | now i dont know what you want |
| 19:36.35 | Cide | yes |
| 19:36.41 | Cide | but I don't understand what you mean |
| 19:36.45 | Thunder_Child | then what i said works |
| 19:36.52 | Thunder_Child | do the maruee thing then hit the delete button |
| 19:36.54 | Cide | what do you mean by "delete" |
| 19:36.59 | Thunder_Child | you will get a popup |
| 19:37.02 | Cide | no... |
| 19:37.11 | Cide | it just deletes it |
| 19:37.22 | Thunder_Child | then do shift+f5 |
| 19:37.27 | Thunder_Child | eg. fill |
| 19:38.48 | Cide | nice |
| 19:38.50 | Cide | good job |
| 19:38.59 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 19:39.06 | foxlit | meh; blizzard should start handing out bans from the sc2 beta |
| 19:39.09 | Thunder_Child | may not be perfect however, you can mess with the % |
| 19:39.27 | foxlit | "Boycotting it? Have fun; now shoo." |
| 19:42.32 | Fisker | noooo |
| 19:42.43 | Fisker | i almost got dislodged foreign object on my shitty mage :/ |
| 19:42.44 | Fisker | :\ |
| 19:43.37 | Dewin | so many opportunities for comment there and I think I shall pass on them all. |
| 19:45.34 | Cide | Thunder_Child: seems like it only works for white/black |
| 19:45.56 | Thunder_Child | Cide: isnt that what you wanted? |
| 19:46.04 | Cide | ideally not |
| 19:46.21 | Thunder_Child | well you can try use = color and see where that gets you |
| 19:46.42 | Thunder_Child | but you will have to start making many masks i think |
| 19:47.00 | Thunder_Child | well, the marquee should negate that |
| 19:47.03 | Thunder_Child | so nvm me |
| 19:47.11 | foxlit | Hm, Ireland. |
| 19:47.27 | foxlit | The first not half-bad song in the entire show thus far? |
| 19:47.48 | Cide | pretty sure it still classifies as pretty bad |
| 19:47.59 | Cide | but my people didn't even get to the final so I guess I should stfu |
| 19:48.21 | Cide | Thunder_Child: using pure red for example, it doesn't work at all |
| 19:48.37 | Cide | and the "opposite" color 00ffff doesn't make it better |
| 19:49.00 | Thunder_Child | honestly i am still not sue what you want Cide |
| 19:49.25 | Cide | .. |
| 19:49.25 | foxlit | Cide: can't you mess with the color curves? |
| 19:49.33 | Cide | how is it hard to understand? :P |
| 19:49.33 | Thunder_Child | sure* |
| 19:49.41 | Thunder_Child | quite it would seem |
| 19:50.05 | Cide | given an image, and a part of it is under a mask of a given color with a given transparency, how can I undo the mask? |
| 19:50.24 | Cide | (the real scenario is the same deal except I DON'T know the color and transparency, which makes it even harder) |
| 19:50.32 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 19:50.41 | Dagmar | Flood fill FTW |
| 19:50.59 | foxlit | curves solve everything |
| 19:51.05 | Dewin | If you know the color and transparency, you can figure out the math that was done to apply it and reverse it. Figuring out that color and transparency is the harder part. |
| 19:51.47 | Cide | exactly, Dewin |
| 19:51.59 | Cide | given two colors there's a large set of possible (color, transparency) pairs that could have been applied |
| 19:52.09 | Cide | using several samples should be able to cut that down to one thoguh |
| 19:52.09 | Cide | though |
| 19:52.14 | Dewin | Yes |
| 19:52.20 | Dewin | Or trial and error |
| 19:52.33 | Cide | trial and error would work if there was an easy way to repeat several trials |
| 19:52.37 | Cide | that's what I've been trying to figure out |
| 19:52.46 | Cide | foxlit: how? |
| 19:53.32 | Dagmar | Uhh... Eyedropper tool |
| 19:53.56 | Dagmar | Grab two pixels right next to each other that were presumably the same color to begin with (look at the edge of the masked area* |
| 19:54.10 | Cide | Dagmar: right |
| 19:54.11 | Shirik | obviously the answer is write a VB script to do it |
| 19:54.11 | Dagmar | View the raw color values (hex or dec doesn't matter) |
| 19:54.24 | Cide | Shirik: rofl, I want to see you do it |
| 19:54.29 | Cide | "hay guys help it errors" |
| 19:54.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:54.38 | Shirik | omg that was so bad |
| 19:54.44 | Dewin | Cide: Would it be easier to work in grayscale? |
| 19:54.47 | Shirik | I officially hate VB more than I did before |
| 19:54.57 | Shirik | Like I don't know wtf they did |
| 19:55.01 | Shirik | but "LET" is no longer the "LET" it was in BASIC |
| 19:55.11 | Shirik | oh and god help you if you confuse "LET" and "SET" |
| 19:55.13 | Dewin | If so, you might be able to vastly simplify things by splitting the image out into the individual color channels |
| 19:55.15 | Dagmar | Once you know the difference you've got a whole slew of per-layer settings for darken-only, lighten-only, etc etc that you can use to change that area |
| 19:55.22 | Dewin | And then you only need to get each channel right on one axis of values, and then combine it back |
| 19:55.39 | Dewin | If your overlay isn't a solid color, however, all bets are off. |
| 19:55.57 | Dagmar | Like, if the difference was that one side had 20 more R, you'd just make a layer with 20 R, put it over the chumpy layer, flip it to lighten only or additive |
| 19:56.24 | Dagmar | Shirik: afafik SET was never in BASIC |
| 19:56.42 | Dagmar | I never saw it in any variant. LET was it, and it was optional in most BASIC variants |
| 19:57.40 | Dagmar | Dewin: Gimp has a color changing dialog that makes that more or less obsolete |
| 19:58.00 | Dagmar | It just lets you run the RGB sliders up or down as you please |
| 19:58.31 | Dagmar | I use it all the time when pasting people's heads onto airplanes and stuff |
| 19:59.48 | Cide | hmm so I mostly managed to get rid of it by trying to match it per-channel |
| 19:59.53 | industrial | need some help with xavante; https://gist.github.com/6dcfdc56b8e1122ec869/cb5a6d5bef21e15b6f93c8ef2100183c10466e97 |
| 20:00.00 | Shirik | it wasn't Dagmar |
| 20:00.09 | Shirik | that's why I saw it in VB and I was like "ok what the hell is this" |
| 20:00.41 | Dagmar | Shirik: Crazy monkey language |
| 20:00.44 | Fisker | it's kind of embarassing when the items you get are upgrades even without having reenchanted or gemmed them |
| 20:00.51 | Shirik | like |
| 20:00.54 | Shirik | I thought VB was supposed to be easy |
| 20:01.04 | Shirik | when you have 3 ways to set the value of a variable, that is no longer easy |
| 20:01.06 | Shirik | that's just stupid |
| 20:02.02 | foxlit | Only if you know about them. |
| 20:02.02 | Fisker | vb easy? |
| 20:02.02 | Fisker | it's probably the most fucked up language i've ever seen |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker | i can understand java and lua pretty well, even without actually having used it before |
| 20:02.11 | Fisker | but vb is just beyond comprehension |
| 20:02.32 | Shirik | foxlit: wha? |
| 20:04.03 | Dagmar | Shirik: When did more options become a bad thing? |
| 20:04.10 | Shirik | they're not options |
| 20:04.11 | foxlit | The presence of those multiple ways to assign a property only becomes a problem if you use propertie |
| 20:04.12 | foxlit | s |
| 20:04.18 | Shirik | all three of those are different things |
| 20:04.46 | foxlit | People who use VB because it's "easy" don't necessarily run into those things because they might not bother with properties. |
| 20:05.10 | Dagmar | ...also keep in mind that VB is an attempt to turn what was supposed to be a *simple* language with completely serial operations, into a language capable of being viable for an event-driven model, and concurrency-safe. |
| 20:05.13 | Dagmar | ...which is LOL |
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| 20:05.39 | Dagmar | It should have been a "u r doin it rong" deal from the get-go. |
| 20:06.43 | Cide | actually |
| 20:07.08 | Cide | every VB instruction should be replaced with the equivalent of std::cout << "http://www.python.org" |
| 20:07.22 | Dagmar | hehe |
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| 20:10.40 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-feed.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskermagi <-see the horrible truth |
| 20:13.47 | zenzelezz | paladin called "Rövsugare"... I didn't know Fisker played on my realm |
| 20:14.32 | Cide | that's me |
| 20:14.37 | Fisker | wat? |
| 20:14.49 | Cide | the Patient Fisker |
| 20:14.50 | Cide | sure. |
| 20:18.02 | Cide | nice socket in your amulet Fisker |
| 20:18.20 | Cide | if that is indeed you |
| 20:19.41 | Cide | wtf france |
| 20:19.42 | Cide | you fail |
| 20:21.01 | Fisker | see when i got it |
| 20:21.27 | Cide | over an hour ago |
| 20:21.32 | Cide | hence fail |
| 20:21.34 | Fisker | i'm still in ICC |
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| 20:22.48 | Fisker | you must admit it's pretty bad though |
| 20:22.55 | Fisker | 19 minutes agoCompleted step [Legs] of achievement [Epic]. |
| 20:22.56 | Fisker | 20 minutes agoObtained [Plaguebringer's Stained Pants]. (Equipped) |
| 20:23.03 | Fisker | Completed step [Neck] of achievement [Epic]. |
| 20:23.04 | Fisker | 1 hour, 12 minutes agoObtained [Amulet of the Silent Eulogy]. (Equipped) |
| 20:23.16 | Cide | yeah your gear is horrible |
| 20:26.35 | Fisker | thank you |
| 20:30.49 | Thunder_Child | Cide: my suggestion is to figure out the color of the mask use the same method i mentioned using mode = difference, figureing out the opacity via trial and error. this will leave you with a darker but correct color image, then use my original suggestion |
| 20:31.06 | Thunder_Child | to lighten it |
| 20:31.30 | Thunder_Child | mask then use* |
| 20:32.50 | Cide | there's no mode = difference in fill |
| 20:33.24 | Thunder_Child | yes there is |
| 20:33.31 | Cide | not for me... |
| 20:33.34 | Thunder_Child | wait, which PS are you using? |
| 20:33.43 | Cide | cs4 |
| 20:34.00 | Cide | oh |
| 20:34.01 | Cide | I fail |
| 20:34.30 | Thunder_Child | the bitch of it is getting the color |
| 20:35.11 | Thunder_Child | and you have to use the same % as the mask, not the inverse |
| 20:35.46 | Cide | yeah |
| 20:36.12 | industrial | pokes around with mod_lua on apache2.3 |
| 20:37.00 | Cide | pokes around with mod_python and a real language for web development |
| 20:38.31 | Thunder_Child | Cide: what class is this for? |
| 20:38.39 | Cide | class? |
| 20:38.52 | Cide | I have an image I want to restore |
| 20:38.53 | Thunder_Child | didnt you say something about a final? |
| 20:39.00 | Cide | no... |
| 20:39.08 | A-KO | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/534416 |
| 20:40.16 | foxlit | http://twitter.com/BBCEntsTeam teehee |
| 20:40.52 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 20:41.13 | Fisker | i don't get it foxlit |
| 20:41.17 | Fisker | why is it so good? |
| 20:41.27 | foxlit | They all suck. |
| 20:41.33 | Fisker | she's german! |
| 20:41.38 | Cide | RT @itskayes Was that "presenting her necklace" move just an excuse for a close up of her tits? Still, nice tits. |
| 20:41.44 | Cide | did I miss something? |
| 20:41.56 | foxlit | Likely. |
| 20:42.03 | Cide | :( |
| 20:42.26 | Cide | in other news |
| 20:42.29 | Cide | paramore's singer = lol |
| 20:42.36 | foxlit | parawho? |
| 20:43.59 | foxlit | "LOCK UP YOUR DAUGHTERS, IT'S EUROVISION O'CLOCK!" |
| 20:44.32 | Cide | paramore is a band |
| 20:44.39 | Cide | the singer accidentally twittered a topless pic |
| 20:45.00 | Dagmar | link or shens |
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| 20:47.12 | Cide | semi-NSFW http://theblemish.com/2010/05/hayley-williams-of-paramore-twitpicd-nudes-of-herself/ |
| 20:47.19 | Cide | for whoever is working saturday |
| 20:47.26 | Cide | full NSFW in the gallery below |
| 20:48.08 | Fisker | i came Cide ? |
| 20:48.17 | Cide | that was fast |
| 20:50.21 | Cide | heading out, later |
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| 21:00.31 | Shirik | Your fact of the day |
| 21:00.36 | Shirik | 1930: William Kogut, an inmate on death row at San Quentin, committed suicide with a pipe bomb created from several packs of playing cards and the hollow leg from his cot, which he heated with a kerosene heater. At the time, the ink in red playing cards contained nitrocellulose, which is flammable and when wet can create an explosive mixture. |
| 21:01.38 | industrial | nice |
| 21:04.20 | Fisker | we need more macgyvers like that in the world |
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| 21:29.21 | Mr_Rabies | is there an addon to help sort through item stats? it's a pain to have to do all kinds of math while i'm at a roll prompt to see if something's an upgrade :( |
| 21:29.52 | Adys | look at the item level and you're done usually |
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| 21:30.27 | Mr_Rabies | not really, not for a druid, certainly |
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| 21:30.51 | Adys | oh well, stupid classes get what they deserve \o/ |
| 21:30.52 | Mr_Rabies | maybe for classes with more simple itemization, but not druids |
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| 21:38.14 | GoldenAxe | i thought its called rawr |
| 21:38.33 | foxlit | hardly something you'd want to run while pondering whether to bid for an item. |
| 21:38.48 | GoldenAxe | ok |
| 21:40.41 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: That's what Rawr was freaking written for |
| 21:41.10 | Dagmar | ...and no, it's not an addon. It's a standalone program. |
| 21:42.45 | A-KO | Unfortunately though, whether or not something is an upgrade does depend on what your personal strengths and weaknesses are...... |
| 21:43.11 | Corrodias | you can generally do some quick comparisons based on attack power, stamina, agility, etc, and if you get it wrong, big deal, it's just a piece of gear. until you start raiding. then you are expected to research what may drop beforehand and know what you want. |
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| 21:45.24 | Fisker | it appears we fucked you up haste |
| 21:52.24 | Fisker | Dagmar |
| 21:56.22 | MoonWitch | anyone know how to get dominos to behave in dual spec? |
| 21:56.46 | MoonWitch | (bar 1 = spec 1 .. bar 2 = spec 2) |
| 21:58.37 | Fisker | why would it be that? |
| 21:58.50 | MoonWitch | my bars don't change on spec apparently >.< |
| 21:58.58 | MoonWitch | which I could have sworn they do on my priest |
| 21:59.04 | MoonWitch | I'll fiddle with it some more :) |
| 22:00.21 | Mr_Rabies | <A-KO> Unfortunately though, whether or not something is an upgrade does depend on what your personal strengths and weaknesses are...... |
| 22:00.37 | Mr_Rabies | i meant, you know, breaks down the STR into AP, AGI into AP/Crit %, Crit Rating into Crit %, etc |
| 22:02.23 | Mr_Rabies | basically cuts down on my mental math |
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| 22:03.46 | Mr_Rabies | because having to manage AP from 3 sources, crit rating from 2 sources, expertise, haste, etc takes too long for these random pub groups |
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| 22:12.43 | Corrodias | like i said, if it's not an obvious upgrade, then it's not that important if you haven't researched the drops beforehand. |
| 22:12.48 | Corrodias | just let it go |
| 22:13.08 | Corrodias | if you're to the point where you can pick out exactly what you want from the drop tables, then little upgrades matter enough to haggle over. |
| 22:13.24 | Corrodias | and at that point, you SHOULD pick them out beforehand. |
| 22:14.39 | Dagmar | Just as long as you don't buy gas at a BP station, it's all good. |
| 22:15.01 | Dagmar | Hmm... I would normally say "wrong chan" at this point, but eff it. |
| 22:15.09 | Dagmar | Fuck BP. |
| 22:15.45 | foxlit | I thought BP had a clever "we don't run that platform" scheme going. |
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| 22:20.12 | zenzelezz | every single year... Trade chat becomes a forum for "GOD DAMNIT WE LOST! er... not that I care. BTW <winner> sucks!" |
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| 22:24.00 | foxlit | zenzelezz: oh crap, that's in /bg too |
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| 22:27.24 | myrkraverk | Is it possible to play custom background music that doesn't loop? |
| 22:27.47 | Shirik | who's dennis hopper? |
| 22:27.56 | myrkraverk | As far as I can tell, PlaySoundFile doesn't turn off the background music |
| 22:49.03 | Dementati | What editor/environment do you people use for addon development? |
| 22:49.17 | Cairenn | Notepad++ for a majority of them |
| 22:50.53 | Dementati | Hm, alright. There aren't any IDE (with an interface designer for example) around worth using? |
| 22:51.16 | Cairenn | Oh, there are, just saying that a lot (most) of them just use Notepad++ |
| 22:52.15 | cogwheel | the only somewhat up-to-date ide is Addon Studio on codeplex, but it has a lot of limitations |
| 22:52.36 | foxlit | Basically, a text editor. |
| 22:53.08 | foxlit | Mostly because you'll probably send less time designing interfaces and more time describing functionality; plus addons tend to be rather compact. |
| 22:53.21 | Cairenn | or similar |
| 22:53.21 | Dementati | Who are "them"? |
| 22:53.21 | Cairenn | points at all of the addon devs in the channel |
| 22:53.22 | Dementati | Ah, right. |
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| 22:53.22 | Dementati | cogwheel: Yeah, I've been trying that one out, but it feels glitchy. |
| 22:54.10 | Dementati | I hear you, but isn't it possible the interface designer might provide a more intuitive introduction to a newbie? |
| 22:54.50 | cogwheel | not if the newbie has to fight with the tool ;) |
| 22:55.22 | cogwheel | it may be more _rewarding_ for certain newbies attracted to challenges like that |
| 22:55.35 | Dementati | True. And according to you, all tools around need fighting with? |
| 22:55.50 | cogwheel | the only other IDE is really out-of-date |
| 22:56.11 | cogwheel | and isn't worth fighting |
| 22:56.26 | foxlit | Could be fun to make something. |
| 22:56.37 | Dementati | *nod* Alright, that's what I thought. |
| 22:56.39 | cogwheel | or fix addon studio ... it's open source after all ;) |
| 22:56.51 | Dementati | No time for that I'm afraid. |
| 22:57.15 | foxlit | Someone else's codebase, though |
| 22:59.33 | cogwheel | i use notepad++ for lua code and visual studio for xml (there free versions of VS have the same XML editor which does context-sensitive code completion based on the schema) |
| 23:00.09 | cog|away | joy... shopping... -_- |
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| 23:07.18 | Dementati | cog|away: I see. |
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| 23:53.08 | Cide | hi |
