00:00.06 | zenzelezz | argent something I think |
00:00.07 | Dagmar | Those hodir guys I thought |
00:00.13 | DWSR | Dagmar: Shoulders |
00:00.16 | DWSR | I want head. |
00:00.18 | DWSR | >.< |
00:00.21 | DWSR | inb4 jokes. |
00:00.22 | DWSR | Fuck you |
00:00.28 | Dagmar | hehe |
00:00.59 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50369 |
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00:05.55 | Fisker | bitch king DWSR |
00:06.08 | DWSR | ~whalenuke Fisker |
00:06.09 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker with his mind powers. |
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00:29.01 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Holy shit. |
00:29.22 | ZorbaTHut | every one of the dungeon factions has a head enchant or two |
00:29.33 | ZorbaTHut | (admittedly the second one is a crappy resist enchant) |
00:29.58 | ZorbaTHut | I forget who has the tanking enchant offhand. Argent Crusade, I think. |
00:31.07 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Not even defense capped yet. |
00:31.10 | DWSR | And tanking heroics |
00:31.22 | ZorbaTHut | yeah it's easier than you'd really think |
00:31.46 | ZorbaTHut | partially because healers are so hugely overgeared |
00:31.51 | ZorbaTHut | as is DPS |
00:32.32 | DWSR | yeah |
00:34.05 | DWSR | Still, I'm with my guild's healer, and she is impressed that I'm taking so little damage. |
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00:51.55 | DWSR | I AN TANK! :D |
00:51.58 | DWSR | AM* |
00:52.12 | DWSR | These instaqueues are fucking hot. |
00:58.22 | Dagmar | Just make sure your first words to the new group are just that... |
00:58.25 | Dagmar | "I AN TANK!" |
00:58.32 | DWSR | LOL |
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00:58.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
00:58.41 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy! *huggles* |
00:58.43 | DWSR | I AN TANK! |
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00:59.29 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent news, DWSR! What flavor? |
00:59.41 | DWSR | The dual wield variety. |
01:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, tanking with your face. Can get the job done. |
01:00.12 | DWSR | Apparently very well, too. |
01:00.22 | DWSR | Just blew through H DTK in 15 minutes. |
01:00.38 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
01:00.50 | Lopeppeppy | Evening, Shirik |
01:01.09 | mikma | now i'm not tired when i get home, but in the strip-bar i was tired. |
01:01.46 | mikma | life is cruel |
01:01.51 | Dagmar | You should probably check your windows for treatments |
01:01.58 | Dagmar | You might have caught the gay |
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01:02.16 | mikma | ohnoes, need teh antigay pills and shots |
01:02.32 | Dagmar | I wasn't aware anyone had perfected those yet |
01:02.41 | DWSR | Once you go gay? |
01:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, no one will take me to a strip bar. *pouts* |
01:02.58 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Do you need a strip bar? You're on IRC ffs. |
01:03.09 | DWSR | Just be like "WTT picz." |
01:03.11 | Dagmar | worries about DWSR |
01:03.23 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy wants to go to a strip bar? o.o |
01:03.31 | DWSR | Dagmar: I got laid so much this week that my pelvis is somewhat sore. |
01:03.43 | mikma | my wife dragged me in there. i wanted to go home and sleep |
01:03.52 | Dagmar | Ahh... |
01:03.55 | DWSR | yep, definitely the gay virus. |
01:04.02 | Dagmar | Yep. Internal conflict. That'll do it. |
01:04.28 | Dagmar | My ex kept claiming she wanted to go into a strip club. |
01:04.31 | Shirik | cogwheel I need your help when you stop being afk/hating me |
01:04.31 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Have you asked them? |
01:04.41 | Dagmar | I, however, can't drink enough to get THAT stupid. |
01:04.52 | Dagmar | Insanely jealous redhead + strip bar == hahahha no |
01:04.59 | cogwheel | Shirik: no i haven't |
01:05.06 | Shirik | :( |
01:05.08 | Shirik | y not |
01:05.17 | cogwheel | cuz i dun haev a teem |
01:05.26 | Shirik | neccisito ayudar! |
01:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I would totally go to a strip bar. I'm all about "let's go experience this". But I would make sure my whole group were good tippers. |
01:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, I'm a highly jealous redhead, I'd still love to go to a strip bar with my boyfriend. |
01:06.53 | DWSR | That's what you want to think. |
01:06.54 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You are however, not apparently _insane_ |
01:07.01 | mikma | well my wife, her brother and fiancee, and our friend persuaded me into going. the brother of wifes brothers fiancee is the doorman and let us in no charge =D |
01:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, totally have. BF has no interest in strip joints, the ex only went to them when he was in Vegas and I wasn't there. *le pout* |
01:07.28 | Dagmar | You may have thought I was being specious when I used that word, but let me assure you, if I had taken that girl into a strip club, I would have caught hell for looking at the girls even if I'd stayed outside in the damn car. |
01:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not, for all intents and purposes, insane. I am sligtly crazy from time to time, but not insane. |
01:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | I would totally be staring at the girls myself. It's only polite to look at the show, if I'm to tip them on the performance afterward. |
01:08.08 | Dagmar | In Vegas ther'es something novel you can do in a strip bar |
01:08.12 | Dagmar | You can drink without going broke. |
01:08.36 | Dagmar | Over at Cheetahs they'll do $5 shots, which doesn't involve any sort of shot glass at all, and $5 gets you two. |
01:08.42 | Dagmar | :) |
01:08.43 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: So we know what to grab Cairenn and Lunessa and go looking for next time we're at BlizzCon then. |
01:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I will go to strip bars at BlizzCon with peoples I trust. |
01:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | reads up and blinks |
01:09.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I can honestly say I never expected that. |
01:09.55 | Dagmar | Generally at a strip club you can spend $50 on four drinks and still be sober enough to drive in all fifty states. |
01:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | I would not drink at the strip club. I would be the designated driver. Or designated walker. Or whatever. |
01:10.33 | cogwheel | vegas has much more interesting displays of titties than strip clubs, imo |
01:10.45 | mikma | gayyyyy |
01:10.48 | Lopeppeppy | I will go to those with you, cogwheel. Show me what is interesting. |
01:11.09 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Yeah but the cabbies make jokes aobut whether or not they should just wait outside |
01:11.13 | Lopeppeppy | This is sort of like "I will eat anything that is not poisonous or likely to be so" |
01:11.45 | cogwheel | miki and i went to a show called Bite at the stratosphere and Zumanity by cirque du soleil |
01:11.59 | cogwheel | (miki = mrs cog's nick) |
01:12.11 | cogwheel | (used to typing that in guild chat now ><) |
01:12.30 | Dagmar | The last time we went to a strip club in Vegas the doorman reminded us of the drink minimum and we waved 'con badges at him |
01:12.49 | Dagmar | "I'm sorry, I'm afraid we intended on being considerably more drunk than that" |
01:13.23 | mikma | dagmar: "you must be atleast this drunk to enter" |
01:13.33 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425589813&sid=1#5 << wait, what? |
01:13.55 | Dagmar | We weren't drunk when we got there. We were just getting started. I was like "Hmm... yes, that minimum thing. Let's have that now as a warm-up" |
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01:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like to see a Cirque show. Very pretty. |
01:16.16 | mikma | i'd like to see Tosca |
01:16.24 | Dagmar | I liked Blue Man Group |
01:16.32 | Shadowed | Blue Man Group was fun |
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01:21.48 | Lopeppeppy | Avenue Q would also be fun. |
01:21.54 | Shadowed | Avenue Q is also fun! |
01:22.00 | Lopeppeppy | jinx |
01:22.08 | Shadowed | what, that's not a jinx |
01:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | maybe I have some lag, 'cause your comment came at exactly the same time as mine. |
01:22.43 | Lopeppeppy | which makes it a jinx, not a response. :) |
01:23.07 | Shadowed | I think the rules of jinxs requires it to be the same message, not different :P |
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01:24.01 | Shadowed | At least where I saw it, Avenue Q was good even in cheap seats |
01:25.53 | Shadowed | Although that's going to wildly vary, so mentioning that was rather useless |
01:27.04 | Kraps | hai gusy |
01:27.05 | Lopeppeppy | I just don't like to go to those things alone, parking lots in the dark alone and all not being wicked smart. |
01:27.43 | Shadowed | Guilt! |
01:28.07 | Dagmar | Being wicked smart alone doesn't protect you in a darkened parking lot. |
01:28.23 | Dagmar | Being armed and wicked smart, however, is a perfectly workable combination. |
01:28.39 | Shadowed | not always |
01:28.40 | Dagmar | Shoot first, do calculus later. |
01:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | I do not have a license to carry, and the only armed I would consider safe would be a sawed off shotgun. |
01:28.57 | Lopeppeppy | Boom and zoom, that's my motto. |
01:29.26 | Shadowed | keeps in mind to not be near Lopeppeppy if she has a weapon |
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01:31.10 | Lopeppeppy | If I ever decided to use one, it would not be to gently injure someone so that local law enforcement could take them into custody. |
01:32.01 | Dagmar | Just keep the barrel. |
01:32.16 | Dagmar | "sawed off" means they take you into custody. |
01:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... they don't approve of modified weaponry. |
01:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. But I handle a shoulder or hip recoil much better than a wrist recoil. |
01:32.46 | Dagmar | ...an they take a dim view of improvised weaponry as well. |
01:32.49 | Corrodias | a handgun is plenty to stop somebody |
01:33.02 | Shadowed | sawed off = less aim is the point I'd imagine |
01:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | I hate to have to aim. |
01:33.12 | Adys | [2. Trade] [Moonpig]: Dancing naked for 3g! |
01:33.12 | Adys | [2. Trade] [Infobot]: Selling tissue for 1g. Im next to moonpig in stormwind |
01:33.12 | Corrodias | they take a dim view of anything you do. you just have to make sure you know what you're doing is legal. |
01:33.13 | Adys | \o/ |
01:33.13 | Dagmar | Breath spray that just _happens_ to be flammable is going to be problematic. |
01:33.31 | Lopeppeppy | ooopsies officer, I didn't know! |
01:33.48 | Shadowed | "The barrel just sawed itself off" |
01:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | *innocent blink* |
01:33.55 | Adys | saws Shadowed off |
01:34.01 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
01:34.07 | Adys | oyes |
01:34.12 | Shadowed | I wouldn't trust you with a pack of cards, let alone a saw Adys |
01:34.18 | Adys | what if i use mine |
01:34.24 | Shadowed | I'd trust you less |
01:34.30 | harl | woof |
01:34.36 | Adys | what if I have it right now, right here |
01:34.46 | Shadowed | still no |
01:34.49 | Shadowed | You can use it on Fisker however |
01:35.00 | Adys | what if I have a deck of cards glued on top of it?! |
01:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'll just use the shotgun, you keep the saw. |
01:35.39 | Adys | what if i also have a bunch of sharks |
01:35.40 | Shadowed | saw and shutgon, wise choice |
01:35.43 | Shadowed | melee and range |
01:35.47 | Adys | with frikin shotguns on their heads |
01:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, sharks are sexy. |
01:36.48 | Lopeppeppy | I hear there's a casino at Vegas with a huge aquarium, including sharks. I wish to go there. |
01:37.11 | Adys | can you feed the animals? |
01:37.29 | Kraps | http://forthebubbles.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/friday-venn-diagram/ |
01:37.55 | Adys | kraps, lame |
01:38.34 | Kraps | "not even remotely possible" made me lol |
01:38.57 | Lopeppeppy | I could feed the tourists to the animals, maybe. |
01:39.58 | Shadowed | I like that plan |
01:40.00 | Shadowed | I'd like to help |
01:40.18 | Adys | I'd like to feed you to Shirik |
01:40.37 | Shadowed | Back to your cage Adys |
01:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem, I do fine on my own, I needs no pimping! |
01:40.51 | Adys | what if there is a saw in my cage Shadowed |
01:41.03 | Shadowed | What if I send Fisker to you |
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01:41.10 | DWSR | ~whalenuke Fisker |
01:41.11 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker with his mind powers. |
01:41.13 | Adys | what if we make sweet love and have a baby? |
01:41.14 | Shadowed | But, but, feeding tourists to sharks sounds fun Lopeppeppy :( |
01:41.17 | Adys | and then throw this baby on you? |
01:41.19 | Shadowed | the world ends Adys |
01:41.30 | Adys | yeah I wasnt gonna do that anyway |
01:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | I love the idea myself, Shadowed. I'm in a cranky mood this weekend, it's great to think of mayhem. |
01:43.18 | Shadowed | Could it be expanded to feeding other people to said sharks |
01:43.19 | Shadowed | like Adys |
01:43.43 | Lopeppeppy | but I don't know Adys, to feed him to sharks. |
01:44.08 | Adys | what if Im a shark |
01:44.27 | Shadowed | we feed you to a bigger shark |
01:44.36 | Adys | WHAT IF YOU CANT FIND ONE |
01:44.39 | Adys | RIGHT |
01:44.41 | Shadowed | Create one |
01:44.42 | Adys | WHAT YOU DO NOW |
01:44.46 | Adys | thats so lame |
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01:46.04 | Shadowed | haha godaddy are such crooks |
01:46.19 | DWSR | NEEDS MOAR TANK |
01:46.21 | DWSR | RAWR |
01:49.16 | Legorol | Very cool, this dropped for me: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=52019 |
01:55.54 | Adys | shadowed |
01:56.01 | Adys | how do you set the map to another map? |
01:56.05 | Adys | i mean |
01:56.17 | Adys | i open the map, i want to set it to another arbitrary map like AV |
01:57.03 | Shadowed | !api SetMap |
01:57.04 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'SetMap': SetMapZoom, CommentatorSetMapAndInstanceIndex, SetMapByID, SetMapToCurrentZone |
01:57.10 | Adys | hurray |
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01:57.12 | Adys | !api getmap |
01:57.12 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'getmap': GetMapOverlayInfo, CommentatorGetMapInfo, GetMapZones, GetMapLandmarkInfo, GetMapDebugObjectInfo, GetMapInfo, GetMapContinents |
01:57.15 | Adys | !api getmapinfo |
01:57.16 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getmapinfo': CommentatorGetMapInfo, GetMapInfo |
01:57.19 | Shadowed | Don't think those are right |
01:57.19 | Adys | fu |
01:57.22 | Arathros | !api StatusBar |
01:57.23 | Adys | !api getmapinfo() |
01:57.23 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'StatusBar': StatusBar:SetStatusBarColor, StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:SetValue, StatusBar:GetOrientation, StatusBar:SetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:SetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:GetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:GetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:SetOrientation, StatusBar:GetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:GetValue, StatusBar:GetStatusBarColor |
01:57.23 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getmapinfo()': CommentatorGetMapInfo, GetMapInfo |
01:57.31 | Adys | dfgdfg |
01:57.35 | Adys | !api rgetmapinfo() |
01:57.36 | lua_bot | CommentatorGetMapInfo: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CommentatorGetMapInfo) |
01:57.51 | Shadowed | SetMapZoom/SetDungeonMapLevel and GetCurrentMapContinent/GetCurrentMapZone/GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel |
01:57.52 | DWSR | WTB a bot that doesn't fucking generate links with a ) at the end. |
01:58.11 | Arathros | !api 'StatusBar': |
01:58.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for ''StatusBar':'. |
01:58.12 | foxlit | DWSR: WTS a client that doesn't consider ) as part of a link |
01:58.24 | Adys | DWSR: WTS a cl |
01:58.27 | Adys | dammit foxlit |
01:59.05 | foxlit | But they're trouble when you get linked to http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_(website) |
01:59.20 | Adys | technically its more correct |
01:59.46 | Adys | afaik the rfc says ( and ) should be uriencoded |
02:00.10 | DWSR | Adys: Because everything follows the RFCs. |
02:00.15 | foxlit | Adys: mine doesn't cut the link at (, though |
02:00.22 | foxlit | So it's broken either way. |
02:00.23 | Adys | mine does (xchat) |
02:00.41 | Lopeppeppy | I read "urinecoded" |
02:00.47 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Yes. |
02:00.55 | foxlit | Anyhow, morning. |
02:01.00 | Lopeppeppy | Peeing on things is hilarious. |
02:01.02 | Adys | !api getmapdebug |
02:01.04 | lua_bot | GetMapDebugObjectInfo: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapDebugObjectInfo) |
02:01.04 | DWSR | Adys: The ( isn't part of the link here, but the ) is, as I would expect. |
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02:02.36 | Adys | !api debug |
02:02.38 | lua_bot | Found 34 possible matches for 'debug'. Please be more specific |
02:02.41 | Adys | >< |
02:02.43 | Adys | !api zzold |
02:02.44 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'zzold'. |
02:02.45 | Lopeppeppy | yeah fu |
02:02.49 | Adys | thats terrible |
02:03.28 | Adys | Shadowed: is there a way to get a list of maps |
02:03.31 | Adys | listing that is |
02:03.34 | Adys | like a getmapbyid |
02:03.43 | Shadowed | For instances? |
02:03.46 | Shadowed | not that I know of |
02:03.47 | Adys | for anything |
02:04.03 | Shadowed | Don't know the API offhand, but there is one for the dropdown yes |
02:04.19 | Adys | !api getzone |
02:04.20 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getzone': GetZonePVPInfo, GetZoneText |
02:04.26 | Adys | !api getarea |
02:04.26 | lua_bot | GetAreaSpiritHealerTime: Returns the time remaining until a nearby battleground spirit healer resurrects all players in its area (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAreaSpiritHealerTime) |
02:05.06 | Adys | !api getmapzones |
02:05.07 | lua_bot | GetMapZones: Returns the map zones for a given continent (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapZones) |
02:06.26 | DWSR | I just met a Gearscore elitefag |
02:06.40 | DWSR | AND NO THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OFFENSIVE AT ALL. |
02:06.58 | Adys | !api getcont |
02:06.59 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'getcont': GetContainerItemDurability, GetContainerItemID, GetContainerItemGems, GetContainerNumFreeSlots, GetContainerItemLink, GetContainerItemInfo, GetContainerItemCooldown, GetContainerNumSlots, Path:GetControlPoints, GetContainerItemPurchaseItem, GetContainerFreeSlots, GetContainerItemPurchaseInfo |
02:07.02 | Adys | !api getcontinent |
02:07.03 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getcontinent'. |
02:07.10 | Shadowed | Adys you do realize you could save time by just checking the Lua files right |
02:07.11 | Shadowed | as amusing as this is |
02:07.16 | DWSR | ^^ |
02:07.23 | cbreak | one of my Auction alts is still in trade chat... in the few minutes I played her, I saw at least two dozen GS raid spams |
02:07.23 | DWSR | Or just checking WoWProgramming? |
02:07.32 | Adys | i'd check wowprogramming |
02:07.42 | Adys | but jnwhiteh STILL hasnt done a decent search function |
02:07.51 | Adys | murders jnwhiteh |
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02:08.08 | Adys | and i dont have access to the luas right now, im ingame and i cant open mpqs |
02:08.52 | DWSR | Adys: Wowprogramming.com/api/ Ctrl + F. |
02:08.53 | DWSR | BAI |
02:09.29 | Adys | The node by this name does not exist, but you can create it. Please pick one of the node types below. |
02:09.31 | Adys | BAI |
02:09.41 | alestane | Type /run for name, var in pairs(_G) do if name:lower():find("continent") then print(name) end end |
02:09.58 | Adys | see DWSR |
02:10.02 | Adys | alestane is more helpful than you! |
02:12.48 | Adys | well there we go |
02:12.57 | Adys | 57 coins gathered |
02:13.10 | Adys | done all the elders except a few in northrend and the dungeons ones |
02:14.10 | Lopeppeppy | Woot |
02:14.11 | Dagmar | I say next year we tag the oldsters with GPS so there doesn't need to be some epic search effort to find out where they wandered off too. |
02:14.17 | alestane | !api GetCurrentMap |
02:14.17 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'GetCurrentMap': CommentatorGetCurrentMapID, GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel, GetCurrentMapZone, GetCurrentMapAreaID, GetCurrentMapContinent |
02:14.54 | alestane | ^ obtained using the above outlined method. |
02:15.17 | Adys | GetCurrentMapAreaID |
02:15.18 | Adys | huh |
02:15.28 | Adys | thats interesting |
02:15.33 | Adys | !api areaid |
02:15.33 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'areaid': GetQuestWorldMapAreaID, GetCurrentMapAreaID |
02:15.39 | Adys | Oh win |
02:15.41 | Adys | afks |
02:17.27 | Arathros | i would love to be all lua. but the book doesnt show at any point how to make the benign items correctly.. only createframe Frame anad button. but nothing else.. rest is xml in the book so far |
02:17.46 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/not-usually-compared/4547 |
02:18.19 | Adys | Kraps: lol |
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02:20.26 | DWSR | hrm. |
02:20.41 | DWSR | WoW's kicking me out without getting disconnected from the web, and it's letting me back in instantly. |
02:20.48 | DWSR | I think someone's trying to hack my account. |
02:21.22 | Adys | that would be me |
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02:26.11 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, got an authenticator? |
02:26.37 | DWSR | yes |
02:26.42 | DWSR | Which is why I'm really worried. |
02:26.47 | DWSR | I have scanned my computer, but |
02:27.11 | ZorbaTHut | if you're actually *getting disconnected*, I can't imagine any authenticator hack that could do that |
02:27.18 | ZorbaTHut | like, after logging in |
02:27.21 | Adys | yeah zorba is right |
02:27.29 | Adys | try create a new character |
02:27.35 | DWSR | No, I'm getting disconnected after a few minutes in game. |
02:27.39 | ZorbaTHut | the authenticator hack that exists does so by crashing WoW (or killing the connection) before you send a message in. |
02:27.44 | ZorbaTHut | yeah that's just a flaky internet connection. |
02:27.58 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: doesnt it just redirect the packets? |
02:28.02 | Adys | well swap them |
02:28.06 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Can't be. I'm connected in vent listening to a music stream and it's not skipping |
02:28.11 | ZorbaTHut | adys, I heard crash WoW, but |
02:28.21 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, internet connections can be flaky in many subtle ways |
02:28.43 | Adys | DWSR: try another character anyway |
02:28.44 | Adys | or server |
02:29.06 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/03/06/funny-pictures-the-feline-dynasty/ |
02:29.38 | Kraps | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wowanniversary/interview/palehoof.xml |
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02:31.59 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: The other thing is that it's not a "lag, then disconnect" |
02:32.03 | DWSR | It's an "instant dump to the login" |
02:32.13 | DWSR | With the former being what I associate with a flaky internet connection. |
02:32.25 | DWSR | It sounds like there's something else wrong, other than just some packet loss |
02:33.51 | ZorbaTHut | I've actually had that happen to me also |
02:33.57 | ZorbaTHut | never figured out what caused it, it stopped eventually. |
02:34.01 | ZorbaTHut | I do not believe it's a hacking issue. |
02:34.20 | DWSR | I'd rather be safe |
02:34.23 | DWSR | etc |
02:35.49 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: it can be a heavy load on the cpu |
02:36.21 | DWSR | Adys: as i said, i'm doing other stuff as well. |
02:36.27 | ZorbaTHut | eh, I'd be walking around middle-of-nowhere questing and it would boot me |
02:36.37 | Adys | it's one of the possibilities i mean |
02:36.42 | DWSR | I was in dungeons. |
02:36.45 | ZorbaTHut | oh, possible |
02:37.05 | Adys | under heavy cpu load, the stream can desync |
02:37.05 | DWSR | btw ZorbaTHut |
02:37.09 | DWSR | Tanking is addicting. |
02:37.11 | DWSR | Holy shit. |
02:37.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah it is :) |
02:37.24 | DWSR | So is letting scrub DPS run around in panic. |
02:37.33 | Adys | you get dc'd after a few seconds of running in the void |
02:37.57 | alestane | What I said is, I don't need any meters to know if I'm doing a good job when I'm tanking. |
02:37.59 | DWSR | Adys: This was an *immediate* disconnect. |
02:38.12 | DWSR | alestane: No, you don't. |
02:38.13 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I've had the immediate thing |
02:38.24 | DWSR | alestane: OTOH, meters help you |
02:38.24 | alestane | If I need to do a better job of tanking, I know right away because I SEE DEAD PEOPLE. |
02:38.26 | Adys | DWSR: then, you can be spamming something |
02:38.29 | Adys | could be an addon |
02:38.29 | ZorbaTHut | alestane, it can help in raids so you can know if your threat is comfortably above everyone else |
02:38.44 | DWSR | Adys: Haven't changed my setup in probably a month in terms of features. |
02:39.36 | DWSR | Blah. |
02:39.40 | DWSR | I need a decent set of tanking pants. |
02:39.46 | DWSR | Suggestions? There's none for emblems. |
02:39.56 | Adys | Im out of ideas |
02:40.00 | alestane | This is a job for emergency pants. |
02:40.09 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, VH heroic |
02:40.11 | DWSR | I restarted WoW. |
02:40.14 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Which boss? |
02:40.19 | ZorbaTHut | last boss |
02:40.22 | Adys | but there are multiple reasons why you could get dc'd |
02:40.30 | DWSR | LOL |
02:40.31 | ZorbaTHut | it's usually last boss for all the non-new heroics, since that's the only boss that drops a purple item |
02:40.37 | ZorbaTHut | the rest all drop blue items |
02:40.45 | DWSR | I can't queue for any heroics specifically. |
02:40.47 | DWSR | Done them all today. |
02:41.10 | ZorbaTHut | well, keep farming or wait until tomorrow ;) |
02:42.02 | DWSR | What's target hit for DW in numbers? |
02:42.12 | DWSR | It's like 8%, but what is that in rating? |
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02:42.42 | ZorbaTHut | it's like 27% |
02:42.45 | ZorbaTHut | check wowwiki |
02:42.51 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, if I wanted to cap out. |
02:42.53 | DWSR | Which I don't/can't. |
02:42.56 | ZorbaTHut | also, as a tank, you don't care about hit, you care about expertise :P |
02:43.08 | DWSR | :o |
02:43.12 | DWSR | Sexy armor trinket for emblems?!? |
02:43.18 | DWSR | It has sex. |
02:43.28 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I seem to recall that's a good one |
02:43.35 | DWSR | 1.7k armor. |
02:43.38 | ZorbaTHut | anyway, heading afk now :) |
02:43.38 | DWSR | On a trinket NOM NOM NOM |
02:45.55 | DWSR | Does the defense number on the paper doll take into account Runes? |
02:53.23 | alestane | It should include any number that's currently feeding into your defense rating or skill. |
03:00.30 | Legorol | DWSR: what class are you gearing up for tanking? |
03:00.57 | Legorol | oh i see, a death knight |
03:01.10 | Legorol | in that case, decent tanking pants are available for emblems: the T9 tanking pants |
03:02.34 | Legorol | if you are doing dw frost tanking and have the appropriate talents, you need 5% hit (about 165 hit rating), and for death knights softcapping hit is slightly more important than other tanks, so it's worth doing |
03:03.17 | Legorol | and yes, rune of SG is included in the defense value displayed on your char sheet |
03:04.05 | Legorol | note that getting 165 hit rating will soft cap your melee hits, but won't cap your spell hits, so your IT/HB etc. can still miss |
03:05.41 | DWSR | yeah, I know. :P |
03:05.48 | DWSR | Trust me, I know all about spell hit from my warlock. :P |
03:07.20 | alestane | Who does one talk to, anyway, for these magical T9 pieces for emblems? |
03:07.58 | DWSR | Hrm. |
03:08.18 | DWSR | My WoW copy tried to alloc 92mb of memory. |
03:08.22 | DWSR | and then proceeded to crash |
03:08.31 | DWSR | methinks there are issues. |
03:09.06 | Arrowmaster | http://www.amazon.com/Record-Agarest-War-Limited-Xbox-360/dp/B00354NBF4 |
03:09.09 | Arrowmaster | WHAT THE FUCK |
03:09.37 | Arrowmaster | read the caption at the top of the box about it being a limited edition, and then notice the ESRB rating |
03:10.12 | Shadowed | haha |
03:10.22 | Shadowed | maybe it's not that naughty |
03:10.25 | DWSR | "Curious how one of Agarests lovely ladies feels about you? Look no further than the Affection Gauge" <-- WTB this in real life. |
03:10.57 | DWSR | srsly. |
03:11.06 | DWSR | I want an affection gauge in real life. |
03:11.11 | Thunder_Child | i like how the diff between 'M' and 'AO' is one year |
03:11.28 | alestane | And sex, generallt. |
03:11.52 | Thunder_Child | no...doesnt matter if you are male of female |
03:12.00 | alestane | All the violence in the world will buy you an M rating, but it won't secure you an AO unless there's some naughtiness to go with it. |
03:12.11 | Thunder_Child | nope |
03:12.17 | Lopeppeppy | mmm, naughty violent sex? |
03:12.20 | Thunder_Child | MATURE |
03:12.20 | Thunder_Child | Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language. |
03:12.20 | Thunder_Child | ADULTS ONLY |
03:12.20 | Thunder_Child | Titles rated AO (Adults Only) have content that should only be played by persons 18 years and older. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity. |
03:12.34 | alestane | Thunder_Child: I know the definition. |
03:12.35 | Thunder_Child | but seriously, 17 vs. 18? |
03:12.35 | sylvanaar | can anyone recommend a good Groovy console |
03:12.42 | Arrowmaster | alestane: didnt manhunt2 have to tone down the violence to get an M instead of an AO |
03:12.46 | alestane | Find me a game rated AO solely for the violence of its content. |
03:12.49 | Thunder_Child | alestane: obviously not |
03:12.51 | sylvanaar | - rempote cnsole, like telnet |
03:12.54 | Dagmar | Still not enough interest to make me buy an XBox. |
03:13.22 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I think Manhunt2 had to tone down the violence to get hardcore gamers to even consider playing it |
03:13.38 | alestane | There may be a couple, but the vast majority of AO ratings are issued for sexual material, not for violence alone. |
03:14.03 | Dagmar | There's such a thing as too much violence in a video game, and for most people Manhunt was way past it |
03:14.04 | Corrodias | vast majority? how many games get that rating? |
03:14.14 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: no clue i never played it, although ive heard the Wii version is the one with the least edits |
03:14.20 | Dagmar | Corrodias: Not enough to make it something you can usefully shop for |
03:14.46 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I coulnd't really stand the first one, and I only know of a few people who played it all the way through. |
03:14.51 | alestane | Which ties once again into the whole concept of "We live in a culture where sex is rated 18+ and brutal violence is rated 15+. WTF is up with our priorities, people?" |
03:15.07 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: no major brick and mortar store will sell AO games |
03:15.10 | Lopeppeppy | Don't get me started, alestane. |
03:16.13 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: lulzorz. |
03:16.24 | Dagmar | What would be the real teller would be if Ubisoft made one that was AO |
03:16.32 | DWSR | Something that's totally natural and legal is 18+, but something completely immoral and illegal is only 15+, yeah. |
03:16.34 | DWSR | inorite? |
03:16.37 | Dagmar | Would people _really_ play it, knowing that the entire time, Ubisoft is watching them. |
03:16.58 | Dagmar | People who aren't regulars on 4chan that is. |
03:17.38 | Dagmar | DWSR: Might have something to do with the fact that f**king is a felony if one of yas is under 18 anyway |
03:17.41 | DWSR | those aren't people. |
03:17.52 | Dagmar | Beating the crap out of a kid is just a misdemeanor tho |
03:17.55 | DWSR | Dagmar: You have a shit country. |
03:17.58 | DWSR | Sex here is 14+ |
03:18.18 | alestane | Ubisoft might be able to make a game that earned an AO for violence only. And Manhunt came pretty close, largely because I believe the premise of the game involves playing a savage psychopath. |
03:18.19 | Dagmar | C'mon man... $87 isn't that big of a fine to pay for smacking some smart-ass 15-year-old to the ground |
03:18.39 | Dagmar | alestane: Oddly, _you're_ not hte savage psycopath |
03:18.44 | Corrodias | Dagmar: is that all it is? oh shit, we could make a night of it! |
03:18.48 | Dagmar | Someone else is pulling your strings the whole time |
03:19.05 | alestane | But most of the really boundary-pushing games in terms of acceptable actions are also not commercially successful. |
03:19.22 | Dagmar | Corrodias: Oh believe me I've flashed a pair of fifties before to shut some kid up |
03:19.46 | alestane | Custer's Revenge was a financial failure as well as an artistic failure. |
03:19.59 | Corrodias | a shit game is a shit game, true |
03:20.14 | Shadowed | alestane: You got to love society |
03:20.30 | alestane | Trying to attract customers based solely on shock value is ultimately not sustainable. |
03:20.41 | Dagmar | I prolly could have dealt with the first Manhunt if it weren't for the gibbering maniac crowing about how great the kills were over loudspeakers |
03:20.57 | Dagmar | Lord knows Thief involved a lot more unfair fighting |
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03:21.46 | Arrowmaster | you call that unfair? |
03:22.05 | Dagmar | An arrow through the neck of someone who has no idea I'm anywhere nearby? Absolutely. |
03:22.25 | Shadowed | If they want fair they shouldn't be a guard |
03:22.31 | Dagmar | Yeah that too |
03:22.34 | Corrodias | some people get so uppity about other people enjoying things that have nothing to do with them |
03:22.38 | Corrodias | "bigots" |
03:22.42 | Dagmar | "virgins" |
03:22.42 | Thunder_Child | unfair only works in places that have rules |
03:22.47 | Corrodias | ^5 Dagmar |
03:22.47 | Arrowmaster | i did a nokill noalert MGS4, i could have gone for just no alert to make it truely unfair |
03:22.49 | Corrodias | wait, i'm a virgin |
03:22.53 | Dagmar | hehe |
03:22.59 | Arrowmaster | but ive done the same in many games, where nobody ever sees me |
03:24.46 | Corrodias | i don't even care if someone plays a game about shoving babies into my ass |
03:24.53 | Corrodias | as long as they're not actually, you know, trying to do that |
03:25.11 | Thunder_Child | i dunno Corrodias, you might enjoy it |
03:25.17 | Adys | why would you play a game about shoving babies into your ass? |
03:25.19 | Corrodias | perhaps; i've never tried it |
03:25.26 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
03:25.36 | Dagmar | Check NewGrounds tomorrow. |
03:25.44 | Corrodias | i'll be there, hot stuff. |
03:25.57 | alestane | This is an excellent discussion for those who are interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFywW99Uvwc |
03:26.16 | Adys | This video may not be suitable for minors. |
03:26.21 | Thunder_Child | no can do alestane, that requires effort |
03:26.27 | Corrodias | oh, my favorite kind of video |
03:27.19 | Adys | lawl i remember the game he talks about |
03:27.21 | Adys | from avgn :/ |
03:27.24 | alestane | It's not particularly adult (except for the intelligent discussion) but it does require signing into youtube. |
03:27.38 | Dagmar | If you have a gmail account, you can sign into YouTube |
03:30.40 | Thunder_Child | i see cogwheel comes back from away just for that |
03:31.15 | Arrowmaster | how bad does a game have to be that you can get it for $2.26 + $7.99shipping or $11.49 with free shipping on amazon |
03:31.23 | Dagmar | I need a text translation of that |
03:31.38 | Dagmar | The guy is making too many salient points to keep up with the helium-huffing-hamster-filter |
03:31.57 | Thunder_Child | fuck that Arrowmaster, how bad is it that they charge you $8 for shipping |
03:32.03 | Thrae | OK how about this for an addon idea -- with all the random PUGs out there, why not an addon that lets you automatically explain boss fights? |
03:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | There have been those already. |
03:32.22 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: its not from amazon but one of the private stores they list |
03:32.25 | Lopeppeppy | We used one... a year and a half ago. |
03:32.34 | Dagmar | Thrae: Wouldn't it be easier to just douse yourself in kerosene and go straight to an Arsonists Anonymous meeting? |
03:32.40 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i understood that |
03:32.55 | Thrae | Dagmar: I guess you have a full party everytime you do a Random? ;) |
03:33.11 | Arrowmaster | but i agree listing it for $2.26 and charging that much for shipping is a scam |
03:33.17 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy: Do you remember what it was called? |
03:33.27 | Dagmar | *Anything* you coded into it as instructions for a fight would be met with tons of asshats posting and complaining that your technique is inefficient, that you're a noob, and that everyone else can do it with one AFK paladin and a warlock |
03:33.56 | Corrodias | scam? well,... yes, $8 shipping on a game is a scam |
03:34.01 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Shipping AND Handling. Obviously an item of that vast quality requires special handling, like they threw it behind a ventilater in some sleezy hotel and need to rent a room for $8 to go and find it again. |
03:34.19 | Arrowmaster | i just ordered http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Wars-Limited-Xbox-360/dp/B001F6KSDM supposedly its only on sale for that price until tomorrow |
03:34.24 | Adys | alestane: man I cant properly follow the talk because I know pretty much where every damn image comes from :/ |
03:34.32 | Dagmar | They're making a dollar off it |
03:35.08 | Dagmar | Adys: I may tap you later for identification of some of the more interesting ones |
03:35.19 | Thrae | Dagmar: I'm not talking Strategy, I'm talking Fight Mechanics. The latter is facts, just like how tons of people can argue that full T9 gear isn't better than full T5 gear, but it is. |
03:35.33 | Dagmar | Thrae: Ahh... That could work well then |
03:35.35 | Adys | Dagmar: that's kind of a disturbing request |
03:35.53 | Dagmar | Hey man I have a collection of deviant software here |
03:36.10 | Dagmar | If ther'es something that actually somewhat quality and I don't already have it, then I need to make with the online ordering somewhere |
03:36.32 | Dagmar | It's a very small collection, and someday it'll probably be worth something |
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03:37.54 | Dagmar | Seems like something that just barely qualifies as "not godawful" comes out only about every 3-4 years |
03:38.18 | Dagmar | RumbleRoses cut scenes almost invalidated it |
03:38.31 | Dagmar | There's actually a fairly decent wrestling game hiding under all that |
03:38.49 | Thrae | Dagmar: Example -- Tyrranus (PoS). 1) Stay away from the cave. 2) If you get Overbrand debuff, stop DPS'ing until it's gone. 3) When Tyrranus says, "Rimefang, destroy that fool!", dodge the attack. 4) Stay off the ice patches. They hurt. 5) Tank him with your back to an ice patch so, when he knocks you back and enrages, he'll have less time on his enrage. Make sure to keep Taunting while waiting for him. |
03:39.28 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: should i suggest to you some japanese games? |
03:39.40 | Thrae | I should buy Halo for the PC, I've never played it |
03:39.48 | Arrowmaster | no you shouldnt |
03:39.57 | Thrae | I have an XBOX 360 controller |
03:40.07 | DWSR | don't bother buying Halo. |
03:40.07 | Thunder_Child | i agree with Arrowmaster |
03:40.09 | Arrowmaster | but its still crap on the PC |
03:40.09 | Thunder_Child | no |
03:40.11 | Dagmar | Thrae: Just off the top of my head "Only noobs go near the cave.", "Just heal through it if you're geared. If you can't your healer sucks", "You can blink past the ice patches" etc etc |
03:40.21 | Dagmar | You're going to get trollery, but I wish you luck |
03:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | man, I get a lot of SEO spam emails just about my domains |
03:40.38 | ScytheBlade1 | "You should be at the top of the search results." |
03:40.39 | Thunder_Child | the GUI/Gun is so large on PC you gaet maybe 1/3 of the screen for seing other stuff |
03:40.42 | Thrae | Also, I have an XBOX, but not an XBOX 360 |
03:40.45 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I can't read any of those damn things |
03:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The site in question that they referenced? 100% blank page |
03:40.56 | Arrowmaster | and the only versions of halo for the PC are 1 and 2, they wont support the 360 controller perfectly like recent games will |
03:41.00 | Lopeppeppy | Thrae, it was too long ago. It was a notes addon... um.... |
03:41.01 | sylvanaar | question - i want to embed a scripting language on this java project i am on. Is Groovy the best solution |
03:41.08 | Thunder_Child | get* |
03:41.12 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I can't help but think that AI and SB3 lose a lot by being completely unintelligible |
03:41.15 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: they have english translations |
03:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | ... transmittted to raid.... um. You had to put in your own strategies, it didn't come pre-loaded. |
03:41.37 | Dagmar | 7Sins on the other hand, was a whole ton of minigames. Derivative yes, but well-executed just hte same |
03:42.07 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy: It doesn't matter. Making such an addon would be extremely easy, the only problem being possible copyright infringements from copy & pasting all the info ;) |
03:42.20 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah I looked into the translations. They don't cover the audio |
03:43.11 | Lopeppeppy | Like htis, Thrae. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13226-BossNotes.html |
03:43.15 | Arrowmaster | Wanko to Kurasou actually has a really good story hidden under all the somewhat over the top erotic parts, but half the time they are so over the top they are hilarious |
03:44.13 | Dagmar | Yeah that old Knights of X.... game (still can't remember the name) was a bit like that |
03:44.32 | Arrowmaster | Utawareumono only has a very few erotic parts the the rest of the story is fucking amazing and full of little jokes |
03:44.38 | Dagmar | Had about hte graphics as old Zelda games, but pretty ruthless dialog |
03:45.25 | Dagmar | I'll look into those |
03:45.46 | Dagmar | AI and SB3 look like just plain fapping material to me. I'd hesitate to call them games |
03:45.52 | Arrowmaster | i still need to finish Fate/stay night, but its so long but i want to finish it before the new movie is translated |
03:46.59 | Arrowmaster | ingame clock is at over 2.5 days i think and im not even half way |
03:47.04 | Dagmar | geez |
03:47.47 | Arrowmaster | although i think that might be inflated some since it keeps counting even when its in the background and i was playing it a few times while waiting for raid spots |
03:48.59 | Dagmar | Ah |
03:49.22 | Dagmar | I somewhat have to discount Playboy: The Mansion from the list |
03:49.50 | Dagmar | it's a decent sim-management game, but there's nothing particularly vicarious about *playing* the nudie king himself |
03:50.12 | DWSR | s/the/with the/ |
03:50.27 | Dagmar | DWSR: No, you're supposed to be Hugh |
03:50.55 | DWSR | come on, I know you didn't miss that. |
03:51.21 | Corrodias | playing a 200 year old man trying to manage a business? oh yay? |
03:51.57 | Dagmar | Corrodias: If it were the present-day Hugh The Ancient it would be significantly more difficult to get any models |
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03:53.38 | Dagmar | It's not like I've got some personal fetish for evil/naughty games, but there's a point at which the way games are made now, you *notice* the lack |
03:54.04 | Dagmar | Like, with Fable... If you were going into evil, there were mainly only fairly milquetoast evils you could get into |
03:54.46 | Dagmar | You could kill adults completely indiscriminately, but only one child, and only after some very specific prompting as a means to an end. |
03:55.05 | Dagmar | You couldn't even give the children in the game beer, and no bigamy was tolerated at all |
03:55.35 | Arrowmaster | i grabbed the installer for the uncensored english RapeLay after the recent controversy |
03:55.55 | Dagmar | So, to find a game that just goes ahead and _does_ those things because they're the logical thing to do, it's a rarity |
03:56.12 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah personally that one got excluded from the collection as well for semi obvious reasons |
03:56.23 | Arrowmaster | i only have the installer |
03:56.37 | Dagmar | I looked at some reviews, figured it was in a similar vein with AI and SB3 |
03:57.05 | Dagmar | Wait, there was _recent_ controversy about RapeLay? |
03:57.10 | Arrowmaster | yes |
03:57.22 | Dagmar | What the hell could generate more buzz than the fact that it's apparently a violent rape simulator? |
03:57.23 | Arrowmaster | some womans rights group found it |
03:57.27 | Dagmar | Ohhh |
03:58.16 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. Yeah, going to bed now. See yas. |
03:58.39 | Arrowmaster | we drove peppy away |
03:59.10 | DWSR | It's only offensive if you let it be |
04:00.37 | Corrodias | nobody's stopping them from funding a male rape game |
04:00.45 | Dagmar | GTA's hot coffee mod was just clearly unpolished code, but I've respect for the most recent GTA because they didn't particularly pull any punches there |
04:01.07 | Dagmar | Corrodias: More importantly to me, no one's making me spend a buck on either of them |
04:01.48 | Dagmar | A game can be porno all it likes, but if it's a bad game, no one's likely to buy it |
04:02.19 | Corrodias | i don't recall whether rapelay was good or bad, though i believe it didn't interest me as much as lot of the company's other products do |
04:03.45 | Adys | kay |
04:03.54 | Adys | late night quizz to anyone interested |
04:03.57 | DWSR | Instant queues are instant. |
04:04.04 | Dagmar | Somehow I think it probably falls very, very short on storyline |
04:04.05 | DWSR | Why doesn't everyone tank? |
04:04.23 | Dagmar | dwsr: because you're really reliant on a healer, and getting to the defense cap is a bitch |
04:04.34 | DWSR | Dagmar: I'm not even there. |
04:04.36 | DWSR | Still tanking ma heroics. |
04:04.41 | DWSR | And DAMN is my avoidance sexy. |
04:04.43 | Adys | nevcairiel: (may interest you), I have a dxtc block which I want decoded by the video card directly from python code; have fun figuring this out for me while Im sleeping |
04:05.11 | Dagmar | I'm not either, and basically I'm fine with waiting 8-10 minutes in unholy spec |
04:05.35 | Adys | dwsr |
04:05.37 | DWSR | Adys |
04:05.39 | Adys | you make me want to log my dk again |
04:05.49 | Adys | just so i can queue some more instances and decline them after 20 sec |
04:06.04 | Dagmar | heheh |
04:06.24 | Adys | that's the single most fun I've had on an alt ever since i picked up wow |
04:06.51 | Dagmar | My first LFD on the DK I tanked just because I was so used to not seeing the "pick yer role" panel I misclicked |
04:07.04 | Dagmar | luckily it was Nexus |
04:07.18 | DWSR | lulz |
04:07.23 | DWSR | DW tanking is such a joke. |
04:08.44 | Adys | night |
04:08.55 | DWSR | It's probably the single easiest thing ever. |
04:08.56 | Adys | good night Shirik, good night Shadowed |
04:09.02 | DWSR | in WoW* |
04:10.37 | Arrowmaster | lol i love RFCs http://www.technovelty.org/humor/rfc3164-smells.html |
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04:14.53 | Kraps | DWSR: what kind of weapons does a dw dk use? |
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04:16.57 | DWSR | 1h defensive. |
04:17.28 | Shadowed | die Adys |
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04:19.35 | DWSR | holy shit. |
04:19.41 | DWSR | If I see more spellpower gear I'm going to go insane. |
04:19.49 | DWSR | 7 hours of farming, that's like all I've seen. |
04:20.18 | Kraps | thats why you shouldnt farm |
04:21.45 | Kraps | DWSR: what makes dw easier than 2h? |
04:21.53 | Dagmar | See if you can start a buyer's panic with some relatively obscure and worthless Outlands drop |
04:22.41 | Dagmar | I actually made about 600g this weekend selling (no joke) four golden pearls and one pristine black diamond |
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04:23.03 | Dagmar | The sad thing is I was trying to mess with the guys who were trying to sell them for ten times their worth |
04:24.14 | DWSR | Kraps: Well, personally, I find it to just be easier to hold threat. |
04:24.49 | Dagmar | I prefer the slowness of 2h |
04:25.01 | Dagmar | Gives me time to have a smoke before the next swing |
04:25.22 | DWSR | That's what she said? |
04:27.22 | Kraps | Dagmar: actually thats why i went fury, arms was too slow |
04:33.27 | DWSR | Kraps: Yeah, DWing is so much fun |
04:33.35 | DWSR | Frost tanking in general is piss easy. |
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04:36.45 | kd3 | gah |
04:37.01 | kd3 | lag hell thanks to the cat knocking off my wireless router downstairs |
04:37.13 | kd3 | >50% dropped packets is ick |
04:37.54 | kd3 | ~ping |
04:37.55 | purl | ~pong |
04:38.06 | kd3 | pokes purl |
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04:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: easy solution. remove the cat from the picture. |
04:49.01 | DWSR | ^ |
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04:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:44 < ScytheBlade1> kd3: easy solution. remove the cat from the picture. |
04:50.54 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:47 < DWSR> ^ |
04:51.19 | kd3 | 's more strongly considering it |
04:54.12 | DWSR | How many emblems are T9 pants? |
04:54.19 | kd3 | 95 |
04:54.19 | kd3 | ? |
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04:56.10 | DWSR | ah, only 50 |
04:57.04 | DWSR | god damn. |
04:57.06 | DWSR | So close to the def cap. |
04:57.08 | DWSR | 530 |
04:58.57 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: your pcs clock is 2 minutes slow |
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05:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: sure it isn't yours? Because mine is synched to the host PC it is on, which is synched with NTP, which is... |
05:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ... about two minutes off. awesome. |
05:04.25 | Kraps | lol |
05:04.27 | kd3 | oops |
05:06.53 | kd3 | ...now to figure out why torrenting is suddenly breaking my connection |
05:06.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Sun Mar 7 00:04:31 EST 2010 7 Mar 00:06:16 ntpdate[4903]: step time server 192.43.244.18 offset 104.640960 sec |
05:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Sun Mar 7 00:06:16 EST 2010 |
05:07.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a bit better |
05:07.20 | kd3 | ~ping |
05:07.21 | purl | ~pong |
05:07.33 | kd3 | damn it, what the hell |
05:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | and ticket opened, yey |
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05:11.24 | kd3 | I think the cat may have broken the router. just /starting/ my bittorent client and the ping to the router itself goes from a few milliseconds to ~5s |
05:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | we'll see if they fix the clock for good |
05:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: failsauce |
05:12.03 | Kraps | holing fjord is such an awesome map |
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05:15.19 | Arathros | kd3 could be collisions |
05:15.34 | kd3 | doubt it; I'm the only computer accessing it atm |
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05:16.03 | Arathros | well collisions arent between computers |
05:16.06 | kd3 | tries changing channels |
05:16.08 | Arathros | its the router and the computer |
05:16.24 | Arathros | one is fullduplex while one is half duplex = one fucks up and resends over adn over ;P |
05:16.44 | kd3 | RX packets:73928 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:76428 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 |
05:17.00 | Arathros | nvm ;P |
05:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | so for anyone on linode |
05:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | apparently ntp is now required to keep time accurately |
05:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | (compared to previously, where you could not adjust the clock) |
05:24.10 | ScytheBlade1 | and considering the host load, it is almost guaranteed your clock is going to be running slow |
05:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep |
05:32.51 | kd3 | so uh... good thing I'm not in the cpu market right now |
05:33.03 | kd3 | wtfs at /newegg/ selling bogus i7s |
05:37.11 | Corrodias | oh? |
05:37.41 | kd3 | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/03/06/2250252 |
05:44.16 | Arathros | ok just asking stupid since book is xml fixated. |
05:44.30 | Arathros | when i create first frame.. parent it to uiparent. |
05:44.48 | Kraps | this guy is so behind the times http://wcbstv.com/national/Iran.sept.11.2.1541922.html |
05:44.54 | Arathros | then all the elements in that frame. parent it to the one thats parented to ui? |
05:45.04 | Arathros | so keeping hierarchy |
05:45.19 | Dagmar | Whooops |
05:45.39 | Dagmar | kd3: That actually looks like a demo/placeholder for photography purpose |
05:45.49 | Dagmar | I'm looking at the video now |
05:45.51 | kd3 | dagmar; with typos on the box? |
05:46.12 | kd3 | and a "factory sealed" sticker that's printed on the box with covered with clear tape? |
05:46.34 | Dagmar | Yes, like those fake demo cell phones don't _exactly_ look like the real phone |
05:46.35 | kd3 | Arathros, more or less. you want your big display frame parented to UIParent and all of the stuff in your frame parented to the frame |
05:46.56 | Dagmar | ...although it would be a pretty serious screwup for those to make it into production stock |
05:47.27 | Arathros | lol at the 9.11 thing... 5 years late ;P |
05:47.57 | Dagmar | The fake 'processor" and the "fan" are definitely not the sort of thing that would fool anyone |
05:48.49 | Dagmar | This should get interesting |
05:49.29 | kd3 | newegg responded "diplomatically" on its twitter feed "@NewEgg"... really looking forward to the fallout |
05:49.53 | Arathros | hmm according to the book and as far as i understand. its not hard to make your own unitframes |
05:49.57 | Dagmar | This is just _way_ too much trouble to go to for normal fraud |
05:50.05 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYYdF0zcuSI&feature=topvideos |
05:50.15 | Arathros | hook events to the right ones and it should be automatic ;P |
05:50.16 | Dagmar | blank paper stapled together instead of a manual? |
05:50.21 | Dagmar | It all just screams 'placeholder' |
05:51.41 | Arathros | free parking in the rear and liqor lol |
05:53.16 | Corrodias | who's going to open the box before shipping it? |
05:53.38 | Dagmar | Unless you were doing mockups there'd be no point in putting a manual in there |
05:55.34 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXmPFJqTHKo NSFW |
05:55.37 | cogwheel | Ackis: penis |
05:56.14 | DWSR | Where's the elder in Nexus? |
05:57.19 | kd3 | near the tree boss |
05:58.01 | DWSR | ah, thanks. |
05:59.59 | msoul | once you hit lvl 74 you can't just take the battle for the horde quest immediately right? |
06:00.05 | msoul | to start that epic quest |
06:00.13 | kd3 | it's a chain |
06:00.43 | msoul | you happen to know from where it starts? all i see from wowhead from the troll vonjin or somesuch |
06:01.06 | kd3 | points to the wiki |
06:01.20 | msoul | hehe i did |
06:01.38 | msoul | tried to find him in ruins of lorderan to |
06:01.40 | msoul | o |
06:02.39 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dragonblight_quests#Horde |
06:03.02 | kd3 | "Onto the Kor'kron Vanguard (unlocks after "The Forsaken Blight and You" chain is completed in Venomspite and "The Pit of Narjun & Nerubians in Icemist Village" chain is completed in Agmar's Hammer) " |
06:16.01 | Arathros | and quests in the wyrmrest right? |
06:16.26 | DWSR | Do you need to be on heroic to get to the elder in Gundrak again? |
06:16.29 | DWSR | Or did they move him? |
06:16.34 | DWSR | Oh wait, nvm, they moved him. |
06:16.37 | Arathros | its in the instance |
06:16.40 | Arathros | no matter diffi |
06:16.47 | kd3 | it used to be heroic only |
06:16.47 | Arathros | i got mine on normal ;P |
06:16.50 | kd3 | he's in normal now too |
06:16.51 | Arathros | yeh i know |
06:16.53 | Arathros | yep |
06:18.40 | msoul | kde: will check it definitely, much thanks |
06:18.50 | msoul | i am doing questa randomly and thought of it yesterday |
06:19.16 | msoul | wanted to know the starting point i.e. wyrmest or that agmar base |
06:29.38 | Arathros | well complete the escort from borean to icemist or whatever thats calld |
06:30.01 | Arathros | then do agmar hammer stuff. and get the ones that tells you to go to wyrmrest after you ahve done a shitload of quests ;P |
06:30.14 | Arathros | then you do those. and when it seems they are done. you go to venomspite |
06:30.19 | Arathros | and you should almost be there |
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07:02.18 | Shirik | who do you think you are |
07:02.20 | Shirik | mr. big stuff |
07:04.40 | mikma | a man with large package? |
07:11.49 | DWSR | Fedex or UPS? |
07:23.38 | Fisker | Shirik! |
07:23.42 | Fisker | le fu |
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07:32.29 | Arathros | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API <-- anyone can tell me what the red links mean? |
07:34.59 | DWSR | MORNING |
07:35.40 | mikma | arathros: description / infopage for that doesn't exist |
07:37.38 | zenzelezz | "We are still root causing the issue and reaching out to those customers who seem impacted by the driver." <--- I wasn't aware you could verbify "root cause" like that |
07:38.19 | Fisker | root cause of what? |
07:39.08 | zenzelezz | the nVidia driver trouble |
07:39.34 | Fisker | doesn't say that here |
07:39.41 | Fisker | your argument is invalid |
07:41.54 | Arathros | mikma ok. thought they might be unavailable ;P |
07:46.20 | Thunder_Child | you know, the ledgend of drunken master makes so much more sense after watching drunken master. |
07:51.48 | Arathros | ahaha no shit ;P |
07:52.03 | Arathros | hmm for a mana bar. wouldnt the obvious way to make it. use a statusbar? |
07:54.19 | Arrowmaster | holy fuck ive got over a 5000 round score in BFBC2 and the game isnt even over yet |
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08:02.32 | Arrowmaster | 6296 combat score, 7400 award score, 13696 total score |
08:02.38 | Arrowmaster | holy fuck |
08:02.58 | Arrowmaster | i rarely ever see anybody with a combat score above 3000 |
08:05.06 | Fisker | this is my carescore |
08:05.09 | Fisker | over 9000 |
08:08.18 | Arrowmaster | want to know the best way to remedy the situation when half the enemy team goes sniper so half of your team goes sniper to try and kill them? |
08:08.55 | Arrowmaster | go sniper and pull out the max rank sniper rifle, the 50cal M95 and head shot all the enemy snipers in 30 seconds |
08:08.58 | Arrowmaster | =D |
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08:11.01 | Arrowmaster | yes that really happened, and yes i thought it was fucking riot |
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08:18.47 | Arathros | this is getting annoying.. according to book and inet. this should work dammit |
08:19.07 | Arathros | all but the CreateFontString() |
08:20.27 | Arathros | !api CreateFontString() |
08:20.27 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateFontString: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/FontString|`FontString`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateFontString) |
08:34.05 | Arathros | ok SetText(var) works.... but SetText(var1 var2 "Hello!") doesnt |
08:34.23 | mikma | umm |
08:34.32 | mikma | foo:SetText("Hailol") |
08:34.44 | Arathros | i know about framename |
08:34.52 | Arathros | its the multi vars + text that doesnt work |
08:34.53 | mikma | why should it take war's on |
08:34.57 | mikma | var's |
08:35.00 | zenzelezz | are you forgetting the concatenation operator? |
08:35.05 | Arathros | well. leve unitname and unitclass |
08:36.02 | jnwhiteh | Adys: what search function do you want? |
08:36.04 | mikma | SetText(UnitName("target").." "..UnitLevel("target").." "..UnitClass("target").." ".."Text, hai lol") |
08:36.07 | jnwhiteh | I find the google search on the site works just fine. |
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08:36.38 | Arathros | hmm tried that earlier. didnt wanna do anything but crash.. let me tr again |
08:37.06 | Arathros | so basically... command..command.."ifIwantAstringHere"..command |
08:37.13 | Arathros | so .. = more "commands" |
08:37.18 | zenzelezz | no |
08:37.24 | zenzelezz | .. = string concatenation |
08:37.49 | zenzelezz | so your commands would have to return/result in strings |
08:38.01 | ZorbaTHut | many things return, or are, strings. .. jams them together into a single glorious enormous string |
08:38.06 | ZorbaTHut | with blackjack, and hookers |
08:38.12 | Arathros | still not explaining proper then.. hmm var..var..var.."aa"..var |
08:38.42 | Arathros | having hard time explaining that lol |
08:38.50 | Arathros | for some reason hah |
08:39.00 | zenzelezz | are you familiar with any other programming languages? |
08:39.18 | Arathros | php and mircing |
08:39.24 | zenzelezz | .. is like PHP's . |
08:39.31 | Arathros | and mircs "." |
08:39.34 | Arathros | Dot ;P |
08:39.40 | Arathros | ye then i get it |
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08:48.59 | Arathros | anyone played with statusbars? |
08:49.24 | zenzelezz | depends what you mean by played with |
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08:49.32 | Arathros | made some that works ;P |
08:52.08 | Arathros | what controls the texture on the valuepart. |
09:05.32 | mikma | SetTexture? |
09:06.22 | Arathros | think i understood that part when i said it ;P |
09:06.26 | Arathros | but i cant get it to show. |
09:06.46 | Arathros | where can i paste |
09:06.51 | Arathros | aaah topic |
09:06.56 | mikma | you are fast learner |
09:07.24 | Arathros | i see the topic once ever week ;P when i disconnect hehe |
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09:08.34 | Arathros | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133877 |
09:08.45 | Arathros | almost leet paste ;P |
09:09.22 | Arathros | and the texture exist.. i use it as my background in the bottom. so i know its there |
09:09.34 | mikma | use PPst_hp:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent) |
09:09.36 | mikma | see what happens |
09:10.05 | Arathros | hmm wonder if i learn anything by bithslapping myself lol |
09:10.07 | Arathros | god |
09:14.07 | Arathros | lol i got it right. it was just mising something ;) |
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09:30.05 | Arathros | hmm why do they have the event unit_maxhealth |
09:30.27 | zenzelezz | because a unit's max health can change |
09:30.44 | Arathros | well sint it easier to update it everytime the health change? |
09:31.00 | zenzelezz | why? |
09:31.19 | Arathros | why not ? ;P |
09:31.25 | zenzelezz | say you're using a statusbar. It would be stupid to call SetMaxValue, then SetValue all the time |
09:31.47 | zenzelezz | it's not *much* extra processing, but it is still silly to do it |
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10:19.45 | Arathros | zenzelezz anyway.. i dont see what they hype is on the problem of making own unitframes ;P its kinda simple when you get into it lol |
10:20.35 | zenzelezz | be careful about saying that. The basics are simple, but there are many details to work out |
10:22.05 | mikma | absolutely, you can ask shadowed was creatin UF a simple job |
10:22.14 | mikma | all the dropdowns, all the focus-fuzz... |
10:28.04 | Arathros | hehe |
10:28.15 | Arathros | well focus never worked for me.. |
10:30.58 | Arathros | even on normal clean blizz ui.. when i put something on focus.. blizzard wants to shut itself down ;P |
10:47.02 | haste | that's due to taint from add-ons |
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10:48.23 | Arathros | on a clean install? |
10:48.26 | Arathros | anyway |
10:48.41 | Arathros | i cant seem to find the manabar color and rage colors and stuff |
10:48.46 | haste | it can't have been a clean install if you got taint issues with focus on the drop-down |
10:49.20 | haste | Arathros: http://github.com/haste/wow-ui-source/blob/master/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua#L1 |
10:50.24 | Arathros | haste you know of a colorpicker to get the rgb values ready for wow? |
10:50.31 | Arathros | like the colorwheel just with output |
10:50.45 | haste | what does ready for WoW mean? |
10:51.00 | haste | if you have the pure RGB values just divide by 255 |
10:51.14 | Arathros | well getting the output 0.1,0.2,0.3,1 |
10:51.23 | haste | just divide by 255 |
10:51.26 | Arathros | hmm |
10:51.27 | haste | (and round it) |
10:51.54 | haste | you can also just write: SetVertexColor(128/255, 100/255, 200/255) |
10:53.15 | theorbtwo | notes that RGB on a scale of 0-255 aren't any more pure then on a scale of 0-1. |
10:57.27 | zenzelezz | but they sound more significant! |
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11:24.23 | Arathros | hmm UNIT_HEALTH arent updating as fast as blizz own ui... any thoughtS? |
11:25.13 | zenzelezz | it just doesn't I think; you could try using a timer (OnUpdate) and just calling UnitHealth,... or you could look at the FrameXML code |
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11:34.56 | Arathros | for rounding numbers to whole numbers i would use math.ceil() or math.floor() right |
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11:42.05 | Fisker | omg zenzelezz |
11:42.58 | haste | Arathros: do you have predict updates enabled in the blizzard options? |
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12:01.19 | Arathros | hmm haste.. let me see if i can even find that |
12:02.22 | Arathros | cant seem to find that |
12:05.16 | Fisker | hilarious |
12:05.26 | Fisker | this guy is complaining about getting the wrong suspension e-mail |
12:05.29 | Fisker | "I'm posting on behalf of my character Drakute on Twisting Nether, the account has just been temporarily disabled because of my pet name which is fair enough but you're going to far to say that "SWASTlKANAZl" is highly offensive sexual content." |
12:05.31 | Fisker | hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
12:06.27 | Arathros | i dont want to know whats going on in their offices anymore |
12:08.09 | nevcairiel | anyong using wine 1.1.40 and has working sound in WoW? Mine broke :( |
12:08.35 | nevcairiel | -######## FMOD ERROR! (err 37) An invalid parameter was passed to this function. |
12:08.38 | nevcairiel | in SESound.log |
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12:13.55 | nevcairiel | nvm, i fixed it :d |
12:28.03 | haste | Arathros: seems they've removed it from the option interface now |
12:28.13 | haste | Arathros: check what the CVars predictedPower and predictedHealth return |
12:31.44 | Arathros | 2 sec |
12:32.05 | mikma | http://toyotasimulator.com/ |
12:32.13 | Arathros | <PROTECTED> |
12:34.41 | mikma | well, if they are global that'll do |
12:35.16 | foxlit | (they're not) |
12:35.40 | foxlit | [or at least that wouldn't make sense to have separate API if they were] |
12:37.10 | haste | Arathros: no, /run print(GetCVar('predictHealth')) |
12:38.05 | Arathros | still nil |
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12:38.21 | Arathros | whats the update on every frame event called |
12:38.33 | foxlit | "haste: Arathros: check what the CVars predictedPower and predictedHealth return" |
12:38.37 | foxlit | "haste: Arathros: no, /run print(GetCVar('predictHealth'))" |
12:38.39 | foxlit | pick one :) |
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12:46.15 | haste | Arathros: OnUpdate? |
12:46.43 | haste | Arathros: also, as long as predict{Health,Power} isn't set -- your frame should update at the same speed as the blizzard frames |
12:46.59 | haste | unless you are missing some events and happen to be testing with those events in question |
12:48.31 | Arathros | well using UNIT_MANA UNIT_HEALTH and the MAX versions |
12:48.43 | Arathros | and i see big delays. |
12:49.24 | Arathros | how can i get a hold of that event then since i like the real update ;P |
12:51.10 | Arathros | hmm whats the correct term to get OnUpdate to work ;P |
12:51.31 | Arathros | function PPsf_mana_OnEvent(self, event, ...) so onUpdate there? |
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12:52.46 | mikma | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() print("Foo") end) |
12:52.56 | haste | you still have to register it, and you shouldn't see big delays if your comparing to blizzard wihtout predict{Health,Power} |
12:53.02 | haste | they should be equal |
12:54.07 | Arathros | well if i spam in my wowlua the UnitHealth("player") i get live'ish results(depending on my clicking speed ;P |
12:55.28 | haste | *facepalms* |
12:55.36 | haste | that's not the same as the blizzard _frames_ tho' |
12:55.52 | haste | UnitHealth() and friends return estimates between the event firing |
12:55.55 | Arathros | well i cant find anything on "predict" |
12:56.09 | haste | 1328.03| haste | Arathros: seems they've removed it from the option interface now |
12:56.22 | haste | they still have checks for it in their unit frames however |
12:56.41 | foxlit | if ( GetCVarBool("predictedHealth") and frequentUpdates ) then |
12:56.52 | haste | spamming "Run" like you are is basically the same as running it through an OnUpdate |
12:57.03 | haste | which is what predict{Health,Power} does |
12:57.26 | foxlit | Are you intentionally renaming the CVar? |
12:57.33 | foxlit | Or is that just a repeated typo? |
12:58.00 | haste | it's not a typo :P |
12:58.07 | haste | it's common sh syntax |
12:58.23 | foxlit | haste: predict or predicted? |
12:58.23 | Arathros | so what is the Cvar? |
12:58.28 | foxlit | As far as blizzard is concerned, it's predicted |
12:58.37 | haste | 1328.12| haste | Arathros: check what the CVars predictedPower and predictedHealth return |
12:58.46 | foxlit | Of course, you could be talking about your own variable naming, which is why I asked. |
12:59.01 | haste | all it does is tell the default unit frames to use an OnUpdate for polling instaed of event based |
12:59.03 | Arathros | predictedHealth |
12:59.08 | Arathros | thats from the list hmm |
12:59.17 | haste | setting it doesn't do shit for your code howvere |
12:59.31 | Arathros | then why bring it up ;P |
12:59.59 | haste | http://github.com/haste/wow-ui-source/blob/master/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua#L206-216 |
13:00.08 | haste | becasue you said you were comparing your updating to blizzards |
13:00.31 | haste | and in the context of unit frames it's easy to believe that you are comparing updating of your statusbar to the one blizzard uses |
13:00.42 | haste | and if predictHealth was enabled, then ofc it would be different |
13:02.31 | Arathros | hmm any way to use that for my advantage then? |
13:03.26 | haste | look at the URL above |
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13:05.23 | Arathros | and sorry to say even thoguh I'm halfway through the book. most of that i dont see the meaning for |
13:05.56 | haste | (do note that most people here have never read the book) |
13:06.45 | Arathros | hehe |
13:06.49 | Arathros | i can recommend it |
13:08.04 | Arathros | f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() print("Foo") end) <-- make that into a multiliner? I'm getting small time confused.. |
13:09.31 | haste | just add newlines :P ? |
13:09.36 | Arathros | function ppui1_OnUpdate() <-- does it need variables |
13:09.54 | Arathros | dont get me on naming ;P my head is in da code mon |
13:09.55 | haste | it doesn't need it, but you'll most likely want self, elapsed there |
13:10.51 | Arathros | ok thanks |
13:18.50 | Arathros | hmm now it doesnt update at all lol |
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13:54.27 | Adys | http://whatdoyousuggest.net/#relationships,for,dummies,free,ebook |
13:54.28 | Adys | bahah |
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15:04.36 | Wobin | hehe |
15:04.54 | Wobin | The concert I went to had an epic cover of 4'33" |
15:05.59 | Kraps | Wobin: how so? |
15:06.14 | Wobin | Perfect rendition =) |
15:06.22 | Kraps | ha |
15:06.30 | Wobin | It had marimba, accordion, string quartet |
15:06.39 | Wobin | a couple of ukeleles... |
15:06.46 | Kraps | i dont "get" the thing |
15:07.04 | Wobin | nor did about 2/3 of the audience =P |
15:07.18 | Kraps | does art = the absence of art also? |
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15:07.28 | Wobin | in the case of 4"33', yes =) |
15:07.54 | Kraps | or the absence it the art in itself |
15:08.01 | Arathros | ok |
15:08.03 | Kraps | s/it/is |
15:08.08 | harl | wuff |
15:08.09 | Arathros | 0/0*100 = what |
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15:08.23 | Wobin | divide by zero, reboot universe and try again |
15:08.28 | Arathros | i know |
15:08.29 | Arathros | math.ceil((UnitPower("target") / UnitPowerMax("target") *100)) |
15:08.45 | Arathros | when i call a mob that has no rage and no max... = 0/0*100 |
15:09.03 | Wobin | so... don't? |
15:09.07 | Arathros | returns "-1.#IND" |
15:09.25 | airtonix | pretty sure there is tests for that |
15:09.35 | airtonix | unitHasRage ? |
15:09.46 | Wobin | like ... if UnitPowerMax("target") == 0... |
15:10.00 | Arathros | ye just though of that ;P |
15:10.25 | airtonix | error checking should be the first thing you think of... |
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15:44.05 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL2kiambI5g&feature=sub |
15:56.12 | Kraps | http://failbooking.com/2010/03/05/funny-facebook-fails-priority-check-time/ |
15:58.58 | Cide | "Ignorant Americans? You understand Americans technically includes Canada, Mexico, Latin America, and south America right?" |
15:59.00 | Cide | ironic |
15:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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16:16.25 | Kraps_ | any ops available? |
16:17.24 | Seerah | what do you need, Kraps_? |
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16:19.58 | Arathros | class icons. anyone? I'm blank |
16:20.41 | Seerah | ... what about them? |
16:21.02 | cbreak | they exist |
16:21.08 | Arathros | i know they exist |
16:21.19 | Arathros | i need em and there was a site that had coords for all of em |
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16:22.01 | Arathros | found it in the constants ;P |
16:25.07 | Arathros | now i got that.. and now i cant remember where i saw how to use that info lol |
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16:26.25 | cbreak | google probably knows |
16:27.06 | Seerah | !api TextCoords |
16:27.07 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'TextCoords'. |
16:27.12 | Seerah | !api TexCoords |
16:27.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'TexCoords'. |
16:27.15 | Seerah | sighs |
16:27.55 | Seerah | bah - was no s :p http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoord |
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16:43.57 | Kraps | whats baseline dps for HoR? |
16:44.07 | mikma | over 9000 |
16:44.27 | Kraps | nowai! |
16:45.53 | Kraps | we survived to the 1st boss |
16:46.12 | nevcairiel | to but not it? |
16:46.29 | Kraps | then _just_ couldnt down him |
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16:56.16 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
17:03.17 | DWSR | Hey, does anyone know the exact set of conditions that allow you to kick someone from a LFD group? |
17:03.46 | cbreak | DWSR: that person being a morron? |
17:04.08 | cbreak | I heard it has to be 15 mins since the group started too |
17:04.15 | DWSR | cbreak: Yes. |
17:04.27 | DWSR | yeah, there's a whole bunch of rules. |
17:04.37 | DWSR | Like not in or shortly after combat, not after the instance has finished. |
17:04.46 | DWSR | Not before 15 minutes, shit like that. |
17:04.49 | DWSR | I want to know what they all are. |
17:05.32 | olafski | not while a loot roll is in progress |
17:06.19 | olafski | that 15 minute stuff is terribly annoying |
17:06.23 | olafski | most runs are finished before that |
17:06.48 | olafski | it helps if the healer is in on it and just doesn't heal the person though.. but that only works if you're not trying to kick them because they're afk ;) |
17:06.55 | cbreak | then that person wans't a big enough moron :) |
17:06.57 | DWSR | right |
17:07.06 | DWSR | The healer in my last group was AFK |
17:07.13 | DWSR | but like, had a jump bot or something |
17:08.28 | Kraps | lol |
17:08.43 | cbreak | report him for botting |
17:08.56 | DWSR | yeah, I know, but that'll take a lot longer than 15 minutes to requeue. |
17:08.58 | DWSR | And I'm a tank. |
17:09.01 | DWSR | So yeah, instaqueue! |
17:09.09 | Kraps | they're changing the time limit in 3.3.3 |
17:09.16 | DWSR | Better be like 5 minutes. |
17:11.00 | Fisker | it's 0 minutes |
17:11.02 | Fisker | what about that? |
17:11.24 | DWSR | that would be nice too. |
17:11.32 | DWSR | I'd be kicking a DPS every time I enter an instance, just for shits. |
17:11.54 | Kraps | ~fail DWSR |
17:11.55 | purl | DWSR, you Fail! |
17:12.02 | DWSR | Kraps: Tank elitism ftw. |
17:12.06 | DWSR | Especially dual wield tanks. |
17:12.16 | DWSR | tbh. |
17:12.23 | Kraps | we have it bad enough already ok? |
17:12.30 | DWSR | If I ever got queued as NOT a tank, I'd kick the tank if he wasn't a DW tank. |
17:12.42 | DWSR | Kraps: Who? DPS? Pft. |
17:12.45 | DWSR | L2 DPS tank. |
17:12.54 | DWSR | My lock can tank heroics. |
17:13.29 | Kraps | DWSR: us TANKS |
17:13.34 | DWSR | lol |
17:13.36 | DWSR | How do we have it bad? |
17:13.45 | DWSR | Heroic tanking is like the easiest of ezmodes. |
17:13.54 | DWSR | Shits like FREE and nothing's ever your fault. |
17:14.03 | DWSR | "Bad DPS" "healer couldn't keep me alive" |
17:14.06 | DWSR | And win. |
17:14.15 | Kraps | you ever read the forums? |
17:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | "tank has no idea how to keep aggro" :/ |
17:14.42 | Kraps | " omg wait for mana" |
17:14.45 | DWSR | SB1: Ah, sorry. Comptetent tanks* have it good. |
17:14.53 | DWSR | Right, bad tanks are bad. |
17:15.17 | DWSR | Kraps: Healers are so overgeared for heroics atm it's unreal. I'm at like 500 defense and still tanking up a storm. |
17:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Then so do good healers and good DPS |
17:15.34 | ScytheBlade1 | yet people still wipe! |
17:15.41 | DWSR | SB1: No, good DPS still have it badly. |
17:15.43 | Fisker | good thing they're tracking kicks |
17:15.48 | Fisker | and can obviously spot abuse |
17:15.59 | DWSR | Queue times on my all 251+ warlock are still shit. |
17:17.47 | DWSR | Fisker: Meh, the thing I don't get about that is why the fuck didn't they do it before? It was obvious that it was going to be a problem. |
17:18.06 | DWSR | Being able to kick someone from anything will be abused, it's just a human thing. |
17:18.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So I need a wifi card, PCI Express, that can operate on the 802.11a (5GHz) frequency as well |
17:18.42 | DWSR | add net 'nomity to the mix and it's just a recipe for more abuse than a heavily drinking husband. |
17:18.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I can only find them that operate on the 2.4GHz frequencies :/ |
17:18.55 | DWSR | SB1: A wire. |
17:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Great, until you're sitting outside on a phone without an ethernet jack. |
17:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Just saying |
17:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... |
17:19.45 | DWSR | Why would you pick 11a? Just for the range? |
17:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Something about being bathed in data from all of the B channels |
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17:20.14 | DWSR | Go g, kthx. |
17:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, a single 802.11n network will saturate over 80% of the available b/g freqency |
17:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
17:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... |
17:20.38 | DWSR | Umm... |
17:20.40 | DWSR | Who gives a shit? |
17:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ................................. |
17:20.54 | DWSR | This is a *personal* network we're talking about, right? |
17:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
17:21.04 | DWSR | And you're living in a house/apartment? |
17:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
17:21.14 | DWSR | Yes, like I said, who cares? |
17:21.21 | ScytheBlade1 | The person using it, ie, me? |
17:21.41 | DWSR | I've been in places that have n and g networks co-existing. |
17:21.45 | cbreak | if you use it it should be OK |
17:21.53 | cbreak | if your neighbor is... less OK |
17:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure. But the signal degredation is impressive |
17:22.26 | ScytheBlade1 | 802.11n absolutely rapes the 2.4GHz frequency in general, and does worse things to existing b/g networks |
17:22.54 | DWSR | SB1: 11a's a pretty uncommon standard, from what I've seen. |
17:22.59 | DWSR | Everything's b/g b/g/n, etc. |
17:23.12 | Gnarfoz | you've not seen much then, have you |
17:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | DWSR: http://aboveaverageurl.com/2009/12/80211n.html <-- you should read that. |
17:23.24 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-03-07-n31.html |
17:23.28 | Gnarfoz | a/g/n is not uncommon in new laptops at all |
17:23.38 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425470482&sid=1 |
17:23.46 | Kraps | DWSR: ^ |
17:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | n operates on top of either the 2.4GHz frequency or the 5GHz frequency |
17:24.11 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Haven't seen too much a, though that isn't to say I haven't seen it. |
17:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "b" "g" and "a" have very very little to do with it |
17:25.23 | DWSR | Kraps: I lol'ed |
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17:25.38 | DWSR | Kraps: Haven't had that bad of a time in heroics, tbh. |
17:25.45 | DWSR | PuG raids are a different storry, I'm sure. |
17:26.08 | Adys | log in |
17:26.21 | Adys | get ninja-invited to an anub rekhan weekly |
17:26.24 | Adys | get it shared |
17:26.28 | Adys | get summoned on-spot |
17:26.33 | Adys | kill it in 3 minutes |
17:26.36 | Adys | hand in and log out. |
17:27.31 | Adys | wow is hard tbh |
17:28.43 | Kraps | i was dps in a pug naxx. i got in before the 4 horsemen. 2-3 wipes on trash, 1 wipe on the boss, downed them, wipe on the next boss, the end |
17:29.06 | Adys | fact that people suck ass doesnt make the game harder |
17:29.24 | Kraps | Adys: you're making a common mistake. wow isnt hard, people are fucking morons |
17:29.37 | Cide | fact that overgearing content isn't hard doesn't make the game harder |
17:29.50 | Adys | Kraps: you're making a common mistake as well, you're talking to me without turning your sarcasm detector on |
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17:30.13 | Kraps | eh |
17:30.17 | Kraps | my bad |
17:30.28 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/03/naxx-is-the-hardest-raid-to-pug/ |
17:30.29 | Adys | how can you take "wow is hard" seriously |
17:30.34 | Adys | how can ANYONE take it seriously |
17:31.28 | Adys | though I cant blame blizzard |
17:31.36 | Adys | difficulty is a very broad concept |
17:32.12 | Adys | in wow, either it comes down to keeping track of a lot of stuff at once, or clicking/pressing the right buttons, or spending a lot of time on the game |
17:32.44 | Adys | if you want to solve complex mathematical equations as fast as humanly possible theres always eve online |
17:33.36 | Kraps | heh |
17:37.06 | Gnarfoz | good ol' http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/gaming/18970d1247995749-eve-online-learningcurve.jpg |
17:51.13 | Kraps | whats the context behind this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15aWgYx9cg |
17:52.51 | Fisker | That Blizzard didn't pay attention to paladins because there were noone on the team playing one |
17:52.59 | Fisker | Then i believe Fangtooth said he was leveling one |
17:54.13 | Kraps | when was this? |
17:54.57 | Fisker | aproximately the same time as the movie was made |
17:55.03 | Fisker | err uploaded |
17:55.05 | Fisker | i'd guess |
17:55.12 | Fisker | It was before the first Blizzcon atleast |
17:55.18 | Fisker | because i remember he left before that |
17:55.51 | Fisker | actually it was just after the first blizzcon |
17:55.52 | Fisker | bam |
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18:09.24 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c28306/ |
18:09.25 | Adys | man |
18:11.14 | Kraps | cutest thing evar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCm8tdHkfI&feature=dir |
18:12.50 | Gnarfoz | Adys: what about it? |
18:13.17 | Adys | when casting amz, you summon a npc that casts amz |
18:13.17 | Adys | =/ |
18:14.06 | Gnarfoz | well, it doesn't move with you, that it'd function that way was surprising to you? |
18:14.21 | Adys | yes and no |
18:14.26 | Adys | Im so used to these hacks |
18:14.34 | Adys | but then again |
18:14.42 | Adys | every time I see it i go "omg" |
18:14.44 | Gnarfoz | heh |
18:15.49 | Gnarfoz | http://www.acaeum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8714 :o |
18:16.18 | Adys | jesus |
18:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cons: Nothing significant; the two cons I'm about to list are temporary issues, and one of them is not the fault of the SSD itself. |
18:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | -Firmware updates cause complete data loss |
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18:19.18 | Adys | honest question |
18:19.23 | Adys | to absolutely everyone |
18:19.54 | Adys | who, in here, noticed that Eadric the Pure, whom you fight in toc5 as second boss, is the same guy that gives the tfa/bbtc dailies? |
18:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- |
18:20.46 | Gnarfoz | the girl boss that you can have instead of him is also in that tent as an NPC |
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18:20.54 | Gnarfoz | (so, yes, I noticed) |
18:20.58 | Adys | yeah but i forgot her name and she's useless |
18:23.07 | Kraps | she has teh sexy voice |
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18:37.55 | r0bert0 | hi guys, |
18:37.57 | r0bert0 | hi all |
18:39.12 | r0bert0 | I have been the whole day looking for the official API of wow, functions offered by blizzard and so on, but I just find some pages, wikis but not an official wide. Could tell me where can I find an official API published by blizzard? |
18:39.57 | Shadowed | There is none, http://www.wowprogramming.com is another unofficial API site thought |
18:39.58 | r0bert0 | i'm really interested but i dont understand why it is so complicated. |
18:39.59 | DWSR | You can't. |
18:40.08 | DWSR | There is no official API documentation |
18:40.11 | r0bert0 | O_O |
18:40.17 | r0bert0 | WTF? |
18:40.20 | r0bert0 | why? |
18:40.29 | DWSR | Take ti away shadowed. |
18:40.46 | r0bert0 | I dont understand why blizzard make it so shadowed... :( |
18:42.10 | r0bert0 | it does not make sens, offer an addon development feature and not offer documentation about the development API |
18:42.14 | r0bert0 | *sense |
18:42.19 | DWSR | Yes it does. |
18:42.24 | DWSR | It would be what we like to call "unsupported" |
18:42.35 | r0bert0 | ahahah |
18:42.50 | r0bert0 | maybe the y do that to avoid bots development. |
18:42.50 | DWSR | By publishing an official API listing, they infer that it is "supported". |
18:42.52 | Shadowed | Addons are not officially supported by Blizzard. Despite what you may want, or think there is none (and likely never will be) a public API. |
18:43.08 | Shadowed | anyway AFK for food |
18:43.19 | DWSR | r0bert0: No, they don't do it to avoid bot development. |
18:43.26 | DWSR | r0bert0: They do it to avoid having to support addons. |
18:43.52 | r0bert0 | tons of people asking them about addons development and so on, I guess. |
18:44.18 | r0bert0 | then I will have to use wowprogramming.com |
18:44.20 | r0bert0 | :) |
18:44.59 | r0bert0 | in any case, thank you |
18:44.59 | r0bert0 | :) |
18:45.24 | r0bert0 | now I wont have to look for a document does not exsit. |
18:45.25 | r0bert0 | eist |
18:45.26 | r0bert0 | exist |
18:54.09 | nevcairiel | anyone any experience what linux filesystem is best for a file server, serving big files mostly? |
18:55.46 | haste | ext4 if you don't have huge volumes |
18:56.07 | nevcairiel | eh, raid folume, possibly growing to 14 TB :P |
18:56.20 | haste | then I'd take XFS if you have proper UPS :P |
18:56.42 | nevcairiel | i don't have one at all, but i might as well get one |
18:56.58 | Kraps | holy crap the moderators voice is awesome http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/blizzcast/archive/episode13.html?rhtml=y |
18:57.31 | haste | well, XFS is shit if you don't have proper UPS |
18:57.39 | nevcairiel | yeah i heard the storys |
18:59.54 | haste | ext4 might work for large volumes as well, but I don't think it has been tested well enough ^^; |
19:00.29 | haste | there's also JFS and friends, but that's outside my experience again |
19:01.56 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
19:02.43 | Fisker | why do you persist mr. haste ? |
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19:02.55 | Fisker | i'm like "le fu" |
19:02.57 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
19:03.29 | nevcairiel | haste: also resizing the filesystem afterwards would be required, but i guess all new filesystems have those features |
19:03.50 | haste | afaik XFS let's you increase, but not shrink |
19:04.01 | Dagmar | XFS isn't any worse than any other filesystem if you improperly dismount it. The key being _don't hard power off your stuff while it's doing disk writes_ |
19:04.01 | nevcairiel | i only need increase |
19:04.31 | Dagmar | haste is right about the resizing thing. You can make 'em bigger, but there's no way to make 'em smaller |
19:04.34 | nevcairiel | I'm just planning to get a 8port controller and start off with 4 disks |
19:04.40 | nevcairiel | and add later |
19:05.04 | haste | friend of mine started with 16TiB :P |
19:05.17 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Your big 'hard' issue will be with disposal of those large files |
19:05.35 | nevcairiel | huh? |
19:05.50 | Dagmar | IF you have to semi-frequently delete files over 2Gb or so, ext3 will journal the entire delete |
19:06.38 | Dagmar | It makes ext3 completely unsuitable (and to a much lesser degree reiserfs IIRC) for use on a PVR because while it's journaling that entire delete, that's 1-2 seconds your disk is doing *nothing* but journaling that deletion |
19:06.39 | nevcairiel | all information i googled up claims XFS is good for file servers, as well |
19:06.56 | Dagmar | For a lot of big files, JFS amd XFS are your best bets at the moment |
19:06.58 | haste | why are we suddenly talking about ext3 :P ? |
19:07.09 | nevcairiel | i dunno, ext3 was out of my race a while ago |
19:07.18 | Dagmar | haste: In this instance, it's a really bizarre behaviour people just don't expect |
19:07.31 | haste | and grub has ext4 support now! |
19:08.04 | nevcairiel | I'm still "conservative" and have a /boot partition in ext2 |
19:08.11 | haste | same :V |
19:08.21 | Dagmar | I'm using JFS on my myth box at the moment. Just under 6Tb |
19:09.30 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
19:09.31 | Dagmar | Most of the people at the office with large arrays are using XFS |
19:10.18 | Dagmar | Whoa. I may just buy this today http://www.macmall.com/p/5104878?dpno=7672258&source=zwb12166 I could use that to boot the damn firewall |
19:10.31 | nevcairiel | might as well go with XFS, our power net is pretty stable as it is, and might invest in a UPS |
19:10.56 | Fisker | wtf is that Dagmar ? |
19:11.04 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: wow thats awesome, i need that for my router, its hdd has been failing again :D |
19:11.10 | Fisker | why would anyone make such a thing? |
19:11.20 | Fisker | is annoyed and confused |
19:12.00 | Dagmar | Fisker: It's a flash module that you just shove into the IDE socket and it looks like a 512Mb hard drive |
19:12.23 | nevcairiel | does it live on ide power? |
19:12.27 | nevcairiel | or where does that come from? |
19:12.50 | haste | the thin air! |
19:13.08 | Dagmar | nevcariel: I'm going to assume it probably does |
19:13.42 | nevcairiel | whats "IDE 44-pin" o.O |
19:14.04 | nevcairiel | oh thats the laptop version with integrated power |
19:14.19 | Dagmar | Ah... Looking at Transcend's site it's got a power adapter with it |
19:14.21 | Dagmar | No biggie |
19:14.34 | Dagmar | Either way it's perfect for the IBM kiosk hardware I'm using |
19:15.01 | nevcairiel | i am using soem damn old harddisk in my router again, and its high-pitch spinning noise has been driving me nuts |
19:15.53 | nevcairiel | a 1gb module would be just right to replace it |
19:16.19 | Dagmar | Well, the hardware I'm using is one of those things where basically everything's built into the back of the screen, so heat is an issue |
19:16.51 | Dagmar | I've gotta either stick a laptop drive in there, or find a 5400 RPM disk because it'll generate less heat |
19:17.27 | Dagmar | I'm _not_ putting another Maxtor in there. |
19:18.28 | nevcairiel | thats really a nice thing for small systems |
19:18.31 | nevcairiel | ordered one |
19:18.48 | nevcairiel | less moving parts++ |
19:18.54 | Dagmar | Yep. |
19:19.27 | Dagmar | I was waiting for prices to drop a bit on SSDs and it looks like at the smaller disk end they have |
19:19.51 | nevcairiel | I don't care about the performance, but its probably not that good |
19:20.00 | nevcairiel | but mine just needs to boot and write some log files |
19:20.21 | Dagmar | I doubt it'll be slow. No moving parts |
19:20.50 | nevcairiel | I should replace the cpu cooler with something passive in that system as well |
19:20.57 | nevcairiel | oh bah, still the PSU then |
19:20.58 | nevcairiel | mm |
19:22.56 | Dagmar | Depending on how much heat you're generating, you can probably either replace the PSU fan with a quieter one, or replace the PSU with a with a quieter one |
19:23.32 | Dagmar | If the thing you're driving with it isn't a whole lot of gear, a little digging will find some fanless 250W models |
19:23.34 | nevcairiel | the old hdd in that was the noisiest part anyway |
19:23.47 | nevcairiel | and its nothing, really |
19:23.55 | nevcairiel | just two network cards and a 10 year old cpu |
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19:39.37 | DWSR | wow. |
19:39.49 | DWSR | Apparently, WoW requested 87mb of memory and then promptly crashed. |
19:40.43 | DWSR | I think Windows told it it couldn't have cheezburger. |
19:40.53 | Dagmar | Only 87Mb?' |
19:41.22 | DWSR | yeah\ |
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19:49.17 | Adys | nevcairiel: xfs |
19:49.46 | Adys | ext3/ext4 if there is a lot of file modifications etc and perf is an issue |
19:50.01 | nevcairiel | nah, just storing files and then reading them |
19:50.07 | nevcairiel | no modifications of stored files much |
19:50.11 | Adys | then xfs |
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19:56.10 | DWSR | Someone in trade is complaining about warlock death coil. |
19:56.13 | DWSR | lolreally? |
19:58.11 | Dagmar | I guess they expect it to heal their pet or something |
20:01.13 | DWSR | Are people STILL QQing about that shit? |
20:01.19 | DWSR | Didn't the length get nerfed by like half? |
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20:01.38 | DWSR | People need to knock it off with the fear QQ, it's so weak as it is. |
20:01.50 | Dagmar | It's like three seconds now |
20:01.55 | DWSR | No it's not. |
20:02.15 | DWSR | Ah, yeah, it is. |
20:02.23 | DWSR | Wasn't it like 5 in Vanilla? |
20:02.26 | Dagmar | Yes. |
20:02.36 | DWSR | yeah, people need to shut the fuck up |
20:02.48 | Dagmar | It was barely useful then, and it's not really worth even thinking about now unless you're dealing with murlocs |
20:03.10 | Dagmar | In three seconds a murloc can reach 20 of his friends. Everything else, not so much |
20:03.44 | Dagmar | They're probably just mad because some warlock hit them with it and then had time to put their other two DoTs on |
20:03.58 | Dagmar | ...and they were too stoned to trinket out of it in time |
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20:05.00 | DWSR | You don't trinket Death Coil. |
20:05.19 | Dagmar | You should be able to trinket out of the fear effect |
20:05.25 | DWSR | I know you can. |
20:05.27 | DWSR | You don't. |
20:05.31 | DWSR | Because when you do, you die. |
20:05.43 | DWSR | Because as soon as you've popped your trinket, you're fucking screwed. |
20:05.47 | Dagmar | eh? |
20:06.00 | DWSR | WEE SHADOWFLAME CoEX PILLARHUMP |
20:07.32 | DWSR | And in case you thought you were going to cleanse or BoF, LOLCS DEVOURMAGIC |
20:07.43 | DWSR | Trinketing Death Coil is stupid. |
20:07.52 | DWSR | It gets you killed. Don't do that shit. |
20:08.54 | DWSR | Still my most favourite is watching people trinket Shadowfury. |
20:09.04 | DWSR | Without realizing that there's a HoT or ST fear coming RIGHT after. |
20:09.51 | Kraps | warlocks are stupid |
20:10.03 | Kraps | <--- warrior |
20:10.17 | DWSR | <- Affliction warlock |
20:10.28 | DWSR | Charge + MS + Bladestorm can't kill me. |
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20:12.47 | DWSR | KotEB has the melee DPS head chant, right? |
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20:24.27 | DWSR | oh wow. |
20:24.33 | DWSR | You can so easily abuse the dungeon finder. |
20:24.52 | DWSR | Apparently, even if you're on cooldown, if everyone in your group leaves, you get your cooldown removed. |
20:26.10 | Shirik | gah |
20:26.12 | Shirik | wikipedia fail |
20:26.15 | alestane | So if you're enough of an asshole to drive everyone else away, you can inflict yourself on someone else immediately. |
20:26.18 | DWSR | ~fail wikipedia |
20:26.19 | purl | wikipedia, you Fail! |
20:26.20 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blackfathom_deeps&action=edit&redlink=1 |
20:26.35 | Shirik | Deleted because: Article about a person, company, organization, or website that does not credibly assert its importance |
20:26.38 | Shirik | WRONG |
20:26.49 | Shirik | Not saying the article should exist, just saying it's wrong |
20:27.00 | DWSR | alestane: Yes, more or less. |
20:27.24 | DWSR | alestane: Having just had an idiot hunter who had their pet on aggressive, I just refused to tank. |
20:27.29 | DWSR | Everyone left, picked up another queue. |
20:29.00 | frontendloader | wikipedantry |
20:30.02 | Shirik | give me a subject to write about |
20:30.05 | Shirik | I'm bored |
20:30.13 | Shadowed | Shirik: Write about why 2 + 2 is 4 |
20:30.19 | DWSR | using calculus./ |
20:30.21 | Shirik | give me an intelligent topic to write about |
20:30.30 | Shirik | also |
20:30.31 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%2B2 |
20:30.39 | Shadowed | Write about the nature of life |
20:31.20 | DWSR | 42 |
20:31.27 | Zyn | wiki eh |
20:31.27 | Zyn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Lustig |
20:31.31 | Zyn | find the error |
20:32.02 | Shirik | Kraps: Did you see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkF5o6KPNI |
20:34.19 | alestane | Shirik: pickling. |
20:35.37 | Mr_Rabies | by his mistress Billy Mays |
20:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | ffffffffffff |
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20:39.12 | Cidwel | hallop |
20:40.22 | Shirik | hallop |
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20:43.06 | ScytheBlade1 | neat, I have all google services over IPv6 now |
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20:45.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
20:45.37 | Shirik | I'm bored |
20:45.40 | Shirik | let's do our SC2 game |
20:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | sure, rebooting |
20:46.41 | Kraps | Shirik: cool |
20:47.16 | ScytheBlade1 | google maps over IPv6 is surprisingly responsive too |
20:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | brb rebooting |
20:47.27 | nevcairiel | why wouldnt it be? |
20:48.19 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: wikipedia is getting fucking retarded on its deletions, they deleted the article for Awesome_(window_manager) |
20:48.19 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: all the data is being tunneled through my server |
20:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | so google --> server --> me |
20:48.43 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Well that had a discussion |
20:49.02 | Arrowmaster | that was a rather well written article imho though |
20:49.05 | Shirik | However, CSD A7 most definitely does not apply to blackfathom deeps |
20:49.16 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
20:49.31 | Shadowed | haha |
20:49.38 | Shadowed | What did the BFD wikipedia article have in it |
20:49.44 | Shirik | I don't know I can't see it |
20:50.26 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Concerns were simply that it didn't meet notability guidelines, no significant coverage in third-party sources |
20:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I'm in |
20:51.56 | Kraps | the neutrality of the wow article is under dispute |
20:52.14 | DWSR | I'll neutrality your dispute in a second. |
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20:55.38 | Kraps | thats not english |
20:57.24 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
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21:08.33 | Adys | good |
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21:09.08 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy: Thanks, looks like exactly what I was looking for. |
21:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | I think you were lurking to tell me that! :) But yay for useful toys. |
21:11.28 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
21:12.19 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi, Cairenn. |
21:12.43 | Cairenn | how's the hand feeling today? |
21:14.43 | Aelobin | do you need to kill twin emps in order to get to ouro in aq40? |
21:14.55 | nevcairiel | yes |
21:15.08 | nevcairiel | door doesnt open otherwise |
21:15.28 | foxlit | twin emps == most awesome dual-boss fight ever? |
21:15.35 | nevcairiel | i loved the fight |
21:15.49 | nevcairiel | was so much fun |
21:16.13 | Kalroth | you guys obviously weren't melee dps then |
21:16.25 | nevcairiel | i never was melee dps ever |
21:16.35 | nevcairiel | because they are always screwed |
21:17.13 | foxlit | What's your melee dps complaint? Running? |
21:17.20 | Kalroth | first twin kill was awesome, but after that it was "Gah, I spend 50% of the time running and C'Thun thrash is next." |
21:17.42 | foxlit | As a caster, I was threat-limited to like 3 nukes. |
21:18.42 | foxlit | "Any ring I bind to a non-modified numeric key (e.g., "5", but not "shift-5") will work as expected first thing when I log on, but after I use it once during combat the ring will no longer function with the assigned key binding." |
21:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | I tried doing laundry and housework. Epic fail. Oh well, I still have some pain meds, it's all info to take to the PT place next week. |
21:19.12 | foxlit | Who be stealing my bindings, mon? |
21:19.37 | nevcairiel | not me, i only use blizzards binding thing |
21:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | I be stealin' yoah bindin's. Nom. |
21:20.10 | foxlit | And my bindings are override by default. So it has to be someone fancy. I also don't get why it'd work the first time. |
21:20.22 | alestane | No. NOT doing the quest to find Khadgar's Essays on Dimensional Convergence even if I am going by there. |
21:20.36 | foxlit | Points to my code, but I can't reproduce it, which points away from my code. Boo. |
21:20.41 | Kalroth | I use ALT+F1 to ALT+F5 to target party members, but there's always some addon crashing the game when I target the fourth party member |
21:20.50 | nevcairiel | too bad |
21:20.54 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww! alestane, Khadgar is wicked excellent COOL, you should do his biddings. |
21:21.26 | alestane | ...you did that quest with me, Lopeppeppy...remember the book in the swamp that you have to get back from the plantie thingies? |
21:22.15 | alestane | The quest with the average completion time of one hour +/= 55 minutes? |
21:22.24 | alestane | Er, +/- |
21:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | Over in the corner of the swamp. Bored out of our minds? |
21:23.03 | alestane | Yup, that's the one. |
21:23.09 | Lopeppeppy | But. KHADGAR! |
21:23.12 | Lopeppeppy | *cries* |
21:23.17 | foxlit | Kalroth: but that's five bindings for four party members? |
21:23.30 | Kalroth | foxlit: F1 is for myself, duh! |
21:24.54 | alestane | If it makes you feel any better, Peppy, it's not even his quest...it's some doofus apprentice who couldn't watch where he was going. |
21:25.11 | Lopeppeppy | Apprentices are people too! |
21:26.40 | alestane | You mean they're NOT just a sort of combination unpaid gofer/free test subject? |
21:27.08 | Lopeppeppy | Well, they *are* free test subjects, but not gophers. More like two legged gerbils. |
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21:35.05 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
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21:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Shirik |
21:40.26 | alestane | feeds apprentice gerbils to Peppy's cats like popcorn. |
21:40.45 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie is already pudgy enough without popcorn gerbils! |
21:42.37 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: nice horse head |
21:42.55 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9947/foxyv8.jpg |
21:46.37 | Arrowmaster | wow fail, Just Cause 2 demo is fucked on display size |
21:47.01 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
21:47.33 | Fisker | you're fucked on display size |
21:51.01 | Kraps | this has to be the best NPC name http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24540 |
21:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, aside from google.com and gmail.com |
21:58.21 | ScytheBlade1 | What other sites does google run? |
21:58.29 | nevcairiel | youtube |
21:58.43 | Adys | !g google-owned properties |
21:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | no IPv6 records there |
21:58.44 | batbot | Adys: Bank Owned Properties Listings in Olympia to Include Lots - a knol ... <http://knol.google.com/k/leonard-smith/bank-owned-properties-listings-in/1rphjx7tb00ek/52> |
21:58.49 | Adys | .. |
21:58.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: fail |
21:58.55 | Adys | why do you suck shit batbot |
21:58.59 | Adys | picasaweb, picasa |
21:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Both @ .google.com |
21:59.06 | nevcairiel | picasa uses a google subdomain |
21:59.09 | Adys | oh |
21:59.25 | Adys | if you wanna test ipv6 |
21:59.30 | Adys | !g google-owned domain names |
21:59.31 | batbot | Adys: Google's growing list of domains <http://www.pronetadvertising.com/articles/googles-growing-list-of-domains.html> |
22:00.04 | nevcairiel | heh googlesucks.net |
22:00.10 | Adys | Currently Google owns 520 domain names |
22:00.12 | Adys | wtf? |
22:00.17 | Adys | thats way, WAY out of date |
22:00.18 | nevcairiel | aww has no ns entry |
22:00.28 | foxlit | "e-perfumez.com" |
22:00.34 | nevcairiel | that was written in 2006 |
22:00.38 | nevcairiel | wtf do you expect |
22:00.42 | Adys | dude |
22:00.57 | Adys | what kind of shit does batbot pull to get crappy results like those? |
22:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | A google "I'm feeling lucky" |
22:01.18 | nevcairiel | thats my first hit on google too, fwiw |
22:01.26 | nevcairiel | but maybe because i visited the link now |
22:01.29 | nevcairiel | google is smart like that |
22:01.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/133899 |
22:01.39 | foxlit | THEY KNOW WHAT YOU VISITED. |
22:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | it is kinda neat to see IPv6 entries for such domains |
22:01.49 | foxlit | (Even if you didn't do so through google!) |
22:02.00 | foxlit | Soon, they'll know what you think, too. |
22:02.03 | foxlit | </tinfoil> |
22:02.08 | alestane | Google Orb! |
22:02.14 | Adys | fwiw |
22:02.16 | Adys | i get http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/04/23/google-domain-names-%E2%80%93-the-funny-strange-and-surprising/ |
22:02.19 | nevcairiel | that would be neat, i don't have to type in the google box anymore then |
22:02.30 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
22:02.32 | nevcairiel | i just click "take me there" |
22:02.41 | Adys | oh yeah |
22:02.43 | Adys | blogger.com ScytheBlade1 |
22:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Also no IPv6 on that one |
22:03.04 | Adys | no wonder, thats their second most-shitty service |
22:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see no IPv6 on youtube, but blogger surprised me |
22:03.18 | Adys | youtube is the first. |
22:05.17 | Adys | Yes, weâre big: |
22:05.17 | Adys | googlereligion.com |
22:05.17 | Adys | googlefaith.com |
22:05.42 | nevcairiel | they should totally get that going and invent some more religious holidays i can stay home on |
22:06.10 | nevcairiel | today is google apprecation day, can't work, must google |
22:06.15 | nevcairiel | +i |
22:06.27 | Adys | also ScytheBlade1 |
22:06.28 | Adys | http://1e100.net/ |
22:06.44 | foxlit | "because Safari canât find the server â1e100.netâ." |
22:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that's all of their reverse dns entries |
22:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 17:06:36.700268 IP6 droid.averageurl.com.57014 > yw-in-x93.1e100.net.http: . ack 1 win 6822 <nop,nop,timestamp 80073391 2951411761> |
22:07.37 | nevcairiel | goo.gl? |
22:07.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooner or later we'll just have a .google |
22:08.04 | Adys | they'll prolly buy .gl |
22:08.15 | nevcairiel | what country is that anyway? |
22:08.38 | nevcairiel | ah, greenland |
22:09.29 | Fisker | i fart on you ScytheBlade1 |
22:09.45 | Fisker | we'll defend greenland with every fiber in our being nevcairiel |
22:11.40 | Shirik | ok someone needs to be shot |
22:11.48 | Shirik | I just found a piece of music in the key of F flat major |
22:11.55 | Fisker | then shoot me Shirik |
22:11.57 | Fisker | give it all you got |
22:12.01 | Fisker | taunts Shirik |
22:12.07 | alestane | Somewhere, there is probably someone who needs to be shot, yes. |
22:12.09 | Adys | F-flattens Shirik's shotkeys |
22:12.30 | alestane | However, that is probably not a reason to shoot someone. |
22:12.36 | Shirik | I think it is |
22:13.10 | Adys | alestane: I think the fact that there is probably, somewhere, someone who needs to be shot is a damn good reason to shoot someone |
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22:16.36 | alestane | Sometimes, for harmonic reasons, a key or note may be referred to by a less obvious name...for instance, whether a given key should be considered A# or Bb is fairly context-dependent. |
22:17.02 | Corrodias | yyyyep |
22:17.03 | alestane | There are indeed pieces in Fb, as well as E#, IIRC. |
22:17.35 | alestane | Espeically if you play jazz. |
22:17.53 | foxlit | oh wow, UIDropDownMenu is pretty broken. |
22:17.59 | Fisker | hides behind Shirik |
22:18.05 | Shadowed | It's not exactly broken |
22:18.09 | alestane | foxlit: Not news. |
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22:18.12 | Lopeppeppy | And good morning to you too, Fisker. *poke* |
22:18.12 | foxlit | It's highlights are like a strata or two below the actual menu. |
22:18.12 | Shadowed | it's just an old dog that should habe been brought out behind a shed |
22:18.13 | Shadowed | and shot |
22:18.14 | Shirik | alestane: E# makes a little more sense |
22:18.18 | Shirik | Fb does not |
22:18.21 | Shadowed | habe = have |
22:18.40 | foxlit | Meh, the API itself is fine. |
22:18.46 | alestane | You left us, Peppy! Why did you leave us? |
22:18.55 | Shadowed | what :p |
22:18.59 | Shadowed | the API is pretty evil too |
22:18.59 | foxlit | Display bugs are just odd |
22:19.24 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I went to make dinner and my interwebs went to make dinner too, apparently. |
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22:40.09 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
22:40.10 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
22:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ #100 |
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22:42.06 | Shadowed | Adys, voted most likely to be a serial killer |
22:42.37 | frontendloader | Shadowed, voted most likely to be a serial port. |
22:42.46 | Shadowed | I can live with that |
22:42.56 | Adys | frontendloader, voted most likely to be a serial unsigned integer |
22:43.07 | ScytheBlade1 | frontendloader: I have a serial port |
22:43.16 | ScytheBlade1 | frontendloader: i7, 6GB of RAM, 3TB of disk storage, and a GTX260 |
22:43.20 | frontendloader | plugging random things into serial ports |
22:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | pats his serial port lovingly |
22:43.29 | frontendloader | is an amazing pasttime |
22:45.05 | ScytheBlade1 | also, curious |
22:45.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone on IPv6? |
22:45.51 | Gnarfoz | thanks to ISPs not offering it, no |
22:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | mine doesn't, but I still have it |
22:46.02 | Gnarfoz | and I don't see the point of tunneling :\ |
22:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious if someone can run a quick ping6 for me |
22:47.30 | foxlit | 64 bytes from 74.125.77.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=2006.190 ms |
22:47.50 | Fisker | Ackis is useless |
22:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | neat @ http://lg.he.net/ |
22:48.10 | ScytheBlade1 | never mind, you're all worthless |
22:48.13 | foxlit | (that's google, btw. YEOWCH) |
22:48.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Also I can ping my droid from the public internet over IPv6 |
22:48.35 | Gnarfoz | great, what's the use of that? ;o |
22:48.48 | Adys | ask again when he loses his phone |
22:48.56 | ScytheBlade1 | see above |
22:49.01 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/530/ |
22:49.48 | Gnarfoz | ~xkcd++ |
22:49.53 | Adys | ~karma xkcd |
22:49.53 | purl | xkcd has karma of 4 |
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22:49.56 | Adys | :( |
22:49.59 | Adys | ~xkcd++ |
22:50.45 | foxlit | And that's like on a second hop :/ |
22:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | although, one of my favorite #wowuidev quotes would be #72 |
22:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | due to the timestamps |
22:56.17 | Adys | my favourite one is #69 |
22:56.24 | Adys | and not because of its id |
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22:59.16 | Fisker | http://looking-glass.telia.net/ ^^ |
22:59.48 | Fisker | it's even better with the completely retarded banner |
22:59.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow @ banner |
23:00.22 | ScytheBlade1 | in any case, ping6 droid.averageurl.com |
23:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
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23:00.41 | Fisker | naw |
23:00.41 | ScytheBlade1 | or my wifi is off |
23:00.48 | Fisker | i don't have no ipv6 |
23:01.33 | Fisker | reminds me of some letter from my ISP |
23:01.41 | Fisker | someone asked a lot of ISP's and mine was one of them |
23:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | there we go |
23:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | --- droid.averageurl.com ping6 statistics --- |
23:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss |
23:01.55 | ScytheBlade1 | is just neat |
23:02.13 | Fisker | The answer was somewhere in the area of "IPv6 is a new feature in Vista and doesn't have any effect on your internet" |
23:02.14 | Fisker | i lol'd |
23:02.23 | ScytheBlade1 | wat |
23:02.52 | Fisker | Yeah |
23:03.02 | Fisker | and then he asked again if he could get IPv6 or what |
23:03.12 | Fisker | and he said that he could use the internet on Vista just fine |
23:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | He get any response? |
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23:04.28 | Dagmar | For most ISPs the answer is "Sure we'll let you use IPv6 if you pay us 50% more money because 6 is 150% of 4." |
23:05.01 | Fisker | well eventually after a few replies he finally got the idea to just investigate instead of being a huge retard |
23:05.07 | Fisker | and found out that they did infact not offer IPv6 |
23:05.36 | ScytheBlade1 | shock |
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23:08.16 | cralor | How can I use CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL to catch Guild messages? |
23:08.29 | cralor | is the channel name just "Guild" ? |
23:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | !api CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
23:08.31 | lua_bot | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL: Fires when a message is received in a world or custom chat channel (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL) |
23:08.44 | zenzelezz | !api CHAT_MSG_GUILD |
23:08.46 | lua_bot | CHAT_MSG_GUILD: Fires when a message is received in the guild chat channel (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_GUILD) |
23:08.48 | cralor | ohhh |
23:08.51 | cralor | thankya |
23:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | There are several CHAT_MSG_* events |
23:09.12 | cralor | yeah should've scrolled farther |
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23:15.17 | Lunessa | station |
23:15.57 | Fisker | convenience store |
23:17.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425530606&sid=5000 |
23:19.11 | Kraps | "Liars |
23:19.12 | Kraps | Something I've noticed is that all players are cheap. I ask a guy not to rush and he says okay. Like 60 seconds later he has zerglings in my base and my stuff all days. Not only did he lie, but most players who have agreed to no rush have lied. I'm starting to think only kids are playing this game. " |
23:19.16 | Kraps | WHAT |
23:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | If you lose to a rush, you're pretty bad |
23:20.02 | Kraps | STRANGERS ON THE NET LYING TO OTHER STRANGERS ON THE NET! UNHEARD OF! |
23:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | As the point of a rush is rarely to kill the opponent :/ |
23:20.12 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Or you're still trying to learn the damn game |
23:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: that is what the AI is for. |
23:20.38 | Dagmar | Oh so people should just let the AI do it's thing and admire the pretty colors |
23:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The AI is currently _terrible_ |
23:21.13 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
23:21.14 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
23:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll add that I played a good 10 rounds as random against the AI, and then did a series of 2v2s with ckknight and placed into platinum |
23:21.22 | Fisker | both slap'd |
23:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | so I'd say learning from the AI is worthwhile and effective |
23:21.36 | Dagmar | ...and I was under the impression that the entire _point_ of a zerg rush *was* to kill the other player before they have a chance to establish any kind of defense |
23:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | no, the point is to take out as many workers as they can before dying |
23:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And cripple the opponent from the start |
23:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | not outright kill them |
23:22.39 | Dagmar | So, it's actually _less_ honorable than it appears on the surface |
23:22.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Much |
23:23.13 | Dagmar | So how is fixing it so someone can't win any different from winning |
23:23.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Because being even "okay" at the game means you can stop a rush pretty soundly |
23:24.12 | Dagmar | And yet you've already lost because you can no longer gather resources at the rate the person who zerged does |
23:24.31 | Dagmar | Stuff like that is why I just don't bother with multiplayer |
23:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because if your opponent can build proper units, you can too |
23:24.41 | Dagmar | With what resources? |
23:24.48 | Dagmar | I used to play WCIII. |
23:25.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Your question makes no sense |
23:25.13 | Dagmar | It's not like I'm some innocent who doesn't know that the guy who zergs generally wins based on the edge it gives them |
23:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | With the resources you gathered? |
23:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're okay at the game, you can stop the rush without worker loss |
23:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And leave your opponent at a pretty big disadvantage |
23:26.42 | Dagmar | I'll turn this another way then so you can see the thing you're overlooking |
23:26.52 | Dagmar | "If you can't win with a zerg you're bad at the game" |
23:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If it comes down to "hey no rush" then you're saying you have very little idea how to play the first 5-10 minutes of the game, imo |
23:27.07 | ckknight | true |
23:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You can rush just fine with protoss and terran.. |
23:27.59 | ScytheBlade1 | The term "zerging" isn't specific to the zerg race |
23:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | However counter-intuitive that may seem |
23:28.28 | Dagmar | s/zerg/zerg rush/; |
23:28.38 | Dagmar | It's got nothing to do with what team you're using |
23:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | okay agreed |
23:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious where your disconnect is though |
23:29.22 | Dagmar | Because your earlier statement boils down to nonsense. It boils down to "if you can't win with x you suck" |
23:29.31 | ScytheBlade1 | What? |
23:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | No it doesn't |
23:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Explain that to me :P |
23:30.03 | Dagmar | "<ScytheBlade1> If you lose to a rush, you're pretty bad" |
23:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Because you have no idea how to play the first several minutes of a game |
23:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | If I can do it in 2 minutes, you can also do it in 2 minutes, and counter it just fine |
23:30.47 | Dagmar | Then by the same token if you fail with any given technique you are also "pretty bad" |
23:31.17 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm talking just about rushes |
23:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Little else |
23:32.20 | frontendloader | oooh starcraft debate |
23:32.27 | frontendloader | time to drop some knowledge on yas |
23:32.55 | Dagmar | So they still ban people for selling accounts, right? |
23:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | yes |
23:33.52 | frontendloader | zerg rushing isn't as effective as one might think |
23:34.26 | frontendloader | especially on good maps like lost temple where both terran and protoss can set up early wall-ins |
23:35.01 | Fisker | best topic ever |
23:35.11 | Fisker | "OMG BLIZZARD IS IGNORING US SO I MADE THIS THREAD SO BLIZZARD WON'T IGNORE US" |
23:35.14 | Fisker | hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
23:36.18 | Dagmar | Fisker: More proof we need an orbital death laser protocol for IPv4 |
23:42.16 | Kraps | would pandora cause framerate issues in wow? |
23:42.35 | Lunessa | Could. Anything that sucks up CPU time. |
23:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's streaming, so of course it could. |
23:43.36 | cralor | what's most efficient way to see if a specific player is on? |
23:43.45 | Dagmar | Cell phone. |
23:43.48 | cralor | GetNumWhoResults work? |
23:45.58 | ckknight | Kraps: yes, Flash sucks up CPU like an anteater |
23:46.01 | ckknight | ...or a vacuum |
23:46.10 | ckknight | ...or some other kind of sucking mechanism |
23:46.15 | ckknight | Russian hooker |
23:46.18 | ckknight | I'm settling on that. |
23:46.19 | Dagmar | ding! |
23:46.41 | Kraps | why Russian? |
23:46.54 | DWSR | who cares? |
23:47.18 | Kraps | dont put our American girls out of business |
23:47.25 | DWSR | They're all fat. |
23:47.32 | DWSR | So yes, please dpo |
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23:55.26 | alestane | "I woke up face down on my laptop with three windows open: itunes, chat roulette and redtube" |
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23:58.35 | ckknight | alestane: lol |