00:02.12 | Codexius | ugh, latest tradesbar and ctraidassist causing combat taints :( |
00:02.14 | Dreagar | grr, hm. ok, so the UI_INFO_MESSAGE outputs: Mottled Boar Slain: 3/10, and ERR_QUEST_ADD_KILL_SII = %s slain: %d/%d, how do i make see if the UI_info output matches the ERR string? |
00:02.44 | Dreagar | string.match? |
00:02.52 | Kirov | Dreagar - look at format |
00:02.55 | Dreagar | format. kk |
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00:04.56 | Dreagar | so if arg1 == string.format(arg1, ERR_QUEST_ADD_KILL_SII) sound right? |
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00:05.23 | Dreagar | wait, i've got those reversed. |
00:05.55 | Mike-N-Go | You are seeing if arg1 equates to itself filtered by ERR_QUEST_ADD_KILL_SII? |
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00:06.20 | Kirov | Ah, wait, you're trying to see if a specific UI_INFO_MESSAGE was created from ERR_QUEST_ADD_KILL_SII? |
00:06.49 | Dreagar | yes :) |
00:06.54 | Dreagar | exactly |
00:07.13 | Kirov | That's not a simple issue |
00:07.16 | Dreagar | for the record, the previous line producs an error. lol |
00:07.24 | Kirov | Yes, it should |
00:07.43 | Kirov | string.format is what creates the string that UI_INFO_MESSAGE sends |
00:08.15 | Dreagar | what i'm trying to do, is collect all quest events. killing a quest mob, looting a quest item, and doing a quest objective. |
00:08.21 | Kirov | arg1 == string.format(ERR_QUEST_ADD_KILL_SII,"Mottled Boar Slain", 3, 10) |
00:08.25 | Dreagar | and put it in a table as to the location. |
00:09.15 | Dreagar | the only thing i haven't been able to collect another way is things like when you have to cast manatap at a creature for the blood elf starting quests. |
00:09.46 | Dreagar | so i'm thinkin the ui_info will make that easier, but interpretting the actual message is what the problem is |
00:11.28 | Dreagar | since quest messages aren't the only UI_INFO messages, i gotta figure out when they are quest objective met messages. :( |
00:12.39 | Kirov | You have to do two thing, you have to modify, either by hand or by code, the ERR_QUEST strings to regular expressions, then use string.match to see if you get information out |
00:12.56 | Kirov | Or, you could just use the events that control the quest log. |
00:17.07 | Dreagar | well, i suppose i could take a look at the quest log events again, see which one changes the 1/19 to 2/19 etc.. |
00:17.24 | Dreagar | quest log updated should fire every time one of those things happens yea? |
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00:18.33 | Kirov | Yes, quest log and the quest watch frame |
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00:27.17 | Lunessa | .. this Fx Extension is .. sexy: http://yellow5.us/firefox/linkification |
00:27.57 | Dreagar | awesome, so just compare the quest log before the update to the log after the update to figure out the change, and log the location. :) much easier than i was doing. |
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01:34.36 | Codexius | I use rs_classcolors to colr the names of players, but I have chatmod too, but i cant find where the player directory is stored |
01:34.38 | Codexius | i want to reset it |
01:34.51 | Codexius | too many names like "enough" and "item" are clogging up every day chat |
01:35.16 | Codexius | there isnt an rs_classcolor file in the wtf dir |
01:35.45 | Codexius | oh, find it |
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01:39.27 | Lunessa | ... Ok, 2 hours left, and all the work is done. |
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01:44.14 | Dreagar | can i have some advice? |
01:45.07 | Dreagar | i'm trying to use update quest log event to figure out when you've completed a quest directive, IE: Slay a quest mob, loot a quest item, or do a quest objective such as mana tap a mob. |
01:45.36 | Lukian | Dreagar, look at how existing addons do it? |
01:46.26 | Dreagar | what my problem is, is that i can't seem to figure out how to tell what's changed in the questlog. i have lookd at the leaderboards etc, and save all that data between updates, but even if i assign it all to a different table at the end, the data gets reassigned before i can check the differences. ;( |
01:46.36 | Dreagar | hmm. do you know of any addons that do that? |
01:48.00 | Dreagar | there's only one type of quest i can't figure out how to capture, and if i can find an easier way than using quest log update i'm al ears. :) but the one kind of quest i haven't seemed to be able to capture is when you do things like you have to mana tap a creature. |
01:48.13 | Dreagar | i've been able to capture quest kills, and picking up quest items. |
01:48.20 | Dreagar | using other methods |
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01:49.43 | Dreagar | i'm just stuck with these non-kill, non-pickup quest directives. :( can't seem to figure a way to compare the quest log without losing the data before its compared. |
01:49.56 | Dreagar | and i can't figure another way to check when somethin is done. :( |
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02:00.44 | Lunessa | Dreagar: are you watching the same events that the QuestWatcherFrame is looking at? |
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02:02.11 | Lunessa | .. wait, I have the name wrong... |
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02:05.31 | Dreagar | yeah, i suppose i am. and i just found out that UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGE event fires when those events happen that are not killing mobs or looting items. strangely enough. |
02:06.31 | Dreagar | the problem still stands though, that when the quest log updates, the table i was using with the old values, gets overwritten with the new vvalues before i can compare the two. so never know which quest actually fired. :( |
02:07.36 | Lunessa | Oh, sounds like you need a meta table. |
02:08.07 | Lunessa | You want a table that keeps the old data when new data gets written. |
02:08.11 | Dreagar | oh hell. i just haven't been able to figure those out. ~sigh~ so close to finishin this project. damnit. lol |
02:08.26 | Dreagar | ok, i suppose i'll go start researchin the pil and see if i can figger it out |
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02:28.40 | Codexius | anyone remember the name of the mod that handles snowballs and heavy leather balls? |
02:38.06 | Shirik | ok, I just got an in-game mail from "Unknown" |
02:38.22 | Shirik | with 7g, 2 lv 65 waters, 4 lv 1 waters, and 2 lv 1 breads |
02:38.54 | kd3 | toon that got deleted? |
02:39.11 | Corrodias | probably transferring his goods from an alt he was recreating to his main, temporarily |
02:39.17 | Corrodias | or something |
02:39.17 | Shirik | oh I know the deleted part |
02:39.20 | Shirik | but what's with the items... |
02:39.31 | Corrodias | but got shirik's name in the box instead of his main's |
02:39.41 | Shirik | well it said "hey" as the subject line |
02:39.49 | Shirik | so that doesn't seem to be that he wanted to send it to himself |
02:39.51 | Corrodias | i'd start asking in Trade if anybody just mailed you accidentally |
02:39.59 | Corrodias | i could see typing that as a random subject |
02:40.17 | Corrodias | that is, if you care about getting it back to the original owner |
02:40.29 | Shirik | how many tells do you think I'll get if I put that in trade chat |
02:40.58 | Corrodias | if you don't say what you received, i'd say few |
02:41.29 | Corrodias | ask anyone who responds for the subject |
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02:47.29 | Sixen | lol |
02:47.35 | Sixen | I keep typing /join #wowuilounge |
02:47.38 | Sixen | :( |
02:55.27 | batrick | i must be emo |
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03:01.10 | Lunessa | Get some Neosporin. |
03:04.44 | kd3 | oh wow... tampa bay just swept the red sox |
03:04.46 | kd3 | o_O; |
03:04.54 | Dreagar | this is freakin impossible. :( |
03:05.22 | Dreagar | anyone know of a way to capture when a quest that doesn't involve killing a mob or looting an item happens? |
03:05.42 | Tekkub | "when"? |
03:05.46 | Dreagar | IE: the quest for blood elves that tells you to mana tap 6 mobs. i can't collect when a mob is manatapped |
03:06.08 | Dreagar | basically i want the location of where the player was when the event happens |
03:06.30 | Tekkub | I believe that QUEST_LOG_UPDATE fires any time a quest changes |
03:06.46 | Tekkub | so you just need to keep track of the current state and see what changed |
03:06.59 | Dreagar | i have been trying to do it through searching the questlog during and after an quest log update, and quest log changed. but the data doesn't change in time for me to get it. :( |
03:07.41 | Tekkub | yea that's the event TG is using for objectives that trigger on a partial quest change |
03:08.38 | Dreagar | i've tried getting the data and keeping the state 4 different ways, using metatables, and using a boolean to tell if the data needs to be updated. i've tried simply updating the old flag of have from the leaderboard to a table, and none of it is working, either the data gets changed and moved over before i can search it, or it happens later and doesn't work either. :( |
03:09.01 | Dreagar | you know of any addons that do somethin like this so i can check out how they do it? wowlooter from wowhead don't do that. :( |
03:10.08 | Tekkub | doesn't seem that useful to me |
03:10.22 | cog|away | Dreagar: the default UI? it has a quest tracker.... obviously it knows when you've gotten the next thing in a quest |
03:10.25 | Tekkub | mass majority of the quests involve interacting with an NPC or node |
03:10.40 | Tekkub | cog|away, that only works if the player's USING it |
03:10.52 | Tekkub | it has it's own event |
03:10.55 | Dreagar | are there methods specific to the quest tracker or events that show when it's updated? |
03:11.06 | Dreagar | but it only works if it actually being used? damnit |
03:11.11 | Tekkub | yes |
03:11.22 | cog|away | so turn it on and keep the frame hidden |
03:11.41 | Tekkub | cog|away, nasty idea |
03:11.44 | Dreagar | well, i collect the quest stuff for when you kill a quest mob, or loot a quest item from the looting event. |
03:11.50 | cog|away | O.o |
03:12.14 | Tekkub | if the player isn't using the tracker they're most likely using a tracker addon |
03:12.17 | Dreagar | and going to collect when you're talking to a quest mob using the player changed target event. |
03:12.28 | Tekkub | and those don't always get along great with the default tracking |
03:12.30 | cog|away | obviously tracker addons get their data from somewhere |
03:12.46 | Fisker- | it's not working |
03:12.48 | Fisker- | blargh i'm ded |
03:12.52 | Lunessa | QuestWatchFrame? |
03:13.15 | cog|away | and what about the message that shows up in the middle of the screen telling you you got murloc eye 1/3 |
03:13.23 | cog|away | (after killing 10,000 of them) |
03:13.23 | Dreagar | it's just those stupid little, evnts that don't do anything like that. well i used wowlooter from wowhead as an example, and it's not doin that, or collecting a different things |
03:13.26 | Tekkub | TG uses QUEST_LOG_UPDATE just fine for what he wants, it just doesn't use it to track coords |
03:13.56 | Dreagar | lol, well that comes from UI_Info_msg but i'm not sure how to make use of it. :( |
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03:14.04 | Tekkub | cog|away, the popup message ain't a great solution either really... sting.find on every error message... |
03:14.09 | Dreagar | TG? what's TG? |
03:14.14 | Tekkub | TourGuide |
03:14.20 | Dreagar | ahh check. i'll go look |
03:14.26 | Dreagar | thanks! |
03:14.48 | Rabbitbunny | Tekkub: Hey... I've seen your name in the AucAdvanced source, You happen to know about it? |
03:15.21 | Tekkub | "about" no, I know nothing about aucadvanced, I live under a rock... |
03:15.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7720011978&sid=1#8 <-this guy is great cog|away |
03:15.39 | Tekkub | Dreagar, http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/tree/master/QuestTracking.lua |
03:16.09 | Tekkub | self:GetObjectiveTag("QO") would be lomething like "Murloc slain: 3/3" |
03:18.19 | Lunessa | I love how people don't ask the question they actually want answered. |
03:24.23 | Dreagar | hmm. so i could use something like that, but really what the problem is, is that i don't understand the metatables, :( and don't seem to be doing that right no matter how much readin i do on the lua site |
03:24.48 | Tekkub | I don't see why you would use metatables for this |
03:25.11 | Lunessa | I suggested one to store data he said was getting changed too quickly. |
03:25.23 | Tekkub | don't need a meta for that |
03:25.28 | Dreagar | ok, well how do i get the old data to store without getting changed before i can search it out? |
03:25.38 | Tekkub | just something (vars or a table) ta cache it in |
03:25.55 | Lunessa | listen to tekkub because unlike me, he actually writes more than a few snippets in Lua. |
03:26.12 | Dreagar | what i have is a table that is created every update. QuestMobs. it looks like this. |
03:26.21 | Tekkub | keep two sets of tables, scan into one, compare to the other, do what you need, swap them and erase the old set |
03:26.40 | Tekkub | and for the love of god learn how to handle lua tables or you'll be making assloads of garbage |
03:27.25 | Dreagar | QuestMobs[mob (or quest objective) name] = { oldHave = questmobs[mobname].have, |
03:28.03 | Dreagar | have = (gets info from leaaderboard), need = (same), QuestTitle = (same) } |
03:28.55 | Tem|afk | EWWWWWWWW |
03:29.04 | Dreagar | i've also tried it where before it updates the QuestMobs table, it says Questmobs = Oldquestmobs. |
03:29.04 | Tekkub | yea, what tem said |
03:29.07 | Tem|afk | Tekkub, set him straight |
03:29.11 | Tem|afk | I'm raiding |
03:29.16 | Tekkub | I'm the wrong person for that Tem |
03:29.24 | Tem|afk | blah blah gay joke blah blah |
03:29.26 | Tekkub | I can make him like taking it up the ass though |
03:29.49 | Dreagar | and the have's are always the same no matter when i copy the table. |
03:30.08 | Tekkub | Dreagar, do this.... |
03:30.11 | Dreagar | ok |
03:30.13 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475467469&sid=1 <-hi i don't know passwords can't be bruteforced >:I |
03:30.45 | Tekkub | on an update iter over the whole list, store every little detail that needs to compare (quest name, leaderboard value) |
03:30.55 | Dreagar | yup, i do that. |
03:31.06 | Tekkub | then iter over the last table you had from doing thus |
03:31.28 | Tekkub | when something is different, call some fuction pass the values you need (quest, oldval, newval, whatever |
03:31.40 | Tekkub | when you're done with that, iter over the old table and erase it |
03:31.46 | Tekkub | swap the two tables |
03:31.47 | Lunessa | ok, time for me to head out. Ciao tutti. |
03:31.57 | Tekkub | next time it fires, do the same, reading into the erased table |
03:32.04 | Tekkub | repeat, etc |
03:32.16 | Dreagar | ok, i thought that i was doin this already, but obviously i'm not. so lemme erase it all, and try agin. :) |
03:32.19 | Tekkub | DON'T do processing on the shit when you do this |
03:32.31 | Tekkub | that's what the fuction you call only for the changed values is for |
03:32.52 | Tekkub | you should only be pulling values in and comparing them for equality |
03:33.22 | Tekkub | when they're not equal you pass it on to some other function that does the processing, that way you only process changed values |
03:34.20 | Tekkub | and because this is all happening frequently, you should probably look into how Compost works so that you can recycle your tables cleanly |
03:34.29 | Dreagar | so i understand, On update: collect values needed in table blah1, compare blah1 to blah2. when not equal valuesnotequal(needed vars). blah1=blah2 right? |
03:35.04 | Tekkub | blah1, blah2 = blah2, blah1; erasetable(blah2); |
03:35.53 | Tekkub | you'll likely end up with a table for each quest so you need to make sure you erase/recycle those too |
03:36.43 | Dreagar | ok once more just so i understand: onupdate, collect values in blah1, compare blah1 to blah2, differences go to function. blah2=blah2. erase blah2? wait that's not right., |
03:37.29 | Tekkub | blah1, blah2 = blah2, blah1 -- swap the values |
03:37.55 | Dreagar | ahhh ok. |
03:39.20 | Dreagar | onupate collect blah1, compare diff = function, blah1, blah2 = blah2, blah1 erase blah2, rinse repeat |
03:40.34 | Dreagar | lemme try that out, and get my kid to sleep, and see what happens. :) thanks foryour patience. |
03:42.23 | Tekkub | yea, get that printing out what changed every time a change you want to track happens, then get it tracking whatever you want when those trigger |
03:42.57 | Codexius | does dtps stand for damage threat per second? |
03:43.29 | Tekkub | I'm guessing it's aiming for delta-tps |
03:43.36 | Tekkub | I.E. "change in" |
03:49.28 | Gnarfoz | neither |
03:49.31 | Gnarfoz | damage taken per second |
03:49.52 | Gnarfoz | dps, dtps, hps, htps |
03:49.52 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
03:52.48 | Drundia | Oh those Blizzard Raid Pullouts, why do they keep failing at setting proper frame level for buttons to make sure they are clickable.... |
03:53.26 | Codexius | is there any way to bind /train to mousewheel up? |
03:53.29 | Codexius | so i can just spam it |
03:53.45 | Codexius | i hate running around and pushing a /train keybind |
03:55.05 | Tekkub | Gnarfoz, dropped tits per second |
03:55.33 | Gnarfoz | dropping tits is madness, I tell you |
03:55.56 | Gnarfoz | bleh I'll go sleep |
03:56.18 | Gnarfoz | it's 6am again, not having to get up sucks ;D |
03:56.47 | Codexius | anyone know an answer to binding /train to a movement or scrollwheel |
03:57.16 | Tekkub | how does that suck? |
03:57.20 | Gnarfoz | crap solution: put a macro on an actionbar, bind key to mousewheel? |
03:57.44 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: lack of predictable 'uptime' ;P I'm even missing my own raids, lol |
03:58.04 | Tekkub | I still don't see an issue |
03:58.32 | Tekkub | but then I naturally fall into a 30hr pattern if I don't have a 24hr anchor |
03:59.04 | Gnarfoz | yeah, something like that. |
03:59.25 | Gnarfoz | it's just annoying when there's 3 days of nothing to do, and then you have an appointment of some kind at 10am o_O |
03:59.39 | Gnarfoz | how the fuck am I supposed to be up at random times like that ;P |
03:59.42 | Gnarfoz | anyway, nn |
04:02.16 | Codexius | what does "cant bind mousehweel to actions with up and down states" mean? |
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04:22.58 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit#Warriors |
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04:23.56 | Corrodias | i have an urge to put a joke in there |
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04:24.00 | Corrodias | but i respect wowwiki too much to do that |
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04:24.13 | kd3 | and I'd have to lart you if you did... |
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04:25.40 | zespri_work | is it a good joke? |
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04:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | no, it's pretty obvious |
04:28.13 | Corrodias | like your mom |
04:28.41 | Corrodias | oops, i'm away playing a game on another computer now! you can't retort! muahaha |
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04:29.19 | Mitranim | Good morning. :-) |
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04:56.58 | Dreag | http://www.pastey.net/90547 OK there's the new code, what am i doin wrong? i go and manatap a mob, it says on the screen that there's now 3/6 but no msg in the chat frame. :( help! |
04:58.53 | Dreag | tekkub still here? :) |
05:01.51 | Arrowmaster | wow that looks really excessive |
05:03.43 | Dreag | well do you understand what i'm wantin to do? i want to find out when the have's aren't equal. so i can log the location and quest that just got updated. |
05:04.01 | Shirik | local table1, table2, oldTable1, oldTable2 = {}, {}, {}, {} |
05:04.02 | Dreag | except it's not doing the default chat message when it should be. or at all for that matter. |
05:04.26 | Dreag | well shirik, it's kidna jst a test, and i redid it a bit. lemme repastey it. |
05:04.36 | Shirik | well I need to go to sleep unfortunately |
05:04.41 | Shirik | but hopefully someone can answer you |
05:04.55 | Dreag | http://www.pastey.net/90548 |
05:05.23 | Dreag | i hope so i'm tryin to use TG to figure it out, but i'm pretty sure i have it the same at least in theory |
05:08.31 | Sixen | ~seen duman |
05:08.33 | purl | duman is currently on #wowuidev (1d 21h 29m 41s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 10h 7m 39s, last said: 'blargh'. |
05:09.26 | Dreag | so no ideas on why it's not working? |
05:09.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont know but you could probably take a look at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua |
05:14.06 | Dreag | holy crap and i thought mine was complicated. lmao |
05:20.39 | kd3 | huh, no real changes in the latest PTR build |
05:21.51 | kd3 | 0.4.3.8536-8568.diff: http://wowi.pastey.net/90550 |
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05:26.17 | Codexius | so heres an interesting problem: i use morganti buffbars, but mousing over my buffs dont show a tooltip' |
05:26.21 | Codexius | any idea? |
05:28.30 | Codexius | i use tiptacs for tooltip |
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05:32.19 | Codexius | anyone? |
05:32.39 | Dreag | wootie! i made it work! all by myself! |
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05:45.44 | Sixen | Hm? |
05:45.44 | Sixen | kd3 |
05:47.46 | kd3 | ya |
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06:17.56 | Sixen | lol. You still there, kd3? |
06:22.18 | Thunder_Child | fail Sixen, just fail |
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06:23.35 | Sixen | :( |
06:23.42 | Sixen | I forgot I called for him. |
06:23.43 | Sixen | lol |
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06:43.03 | Codexius | anyone tell me if theres a way to put a note in a macro that woill be displayed on tooltip? |
06:45.04 | Thunder_Child | you can have info popup on mouse hover |
06:45.14 | Thunder_Child | i just dont know what it is |
06:47.01 | Gngsk | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_AddLine |
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06:55.46 | Sixen | So. I'm trying to make a Window.. Yeah.. |
06:58.25 | Codexius | oh man, im trying to use bartenders4's new keybinding menu, but the problem lies in if i want to have a shift+key macro, hotkeyed within the key itself |
06:58.37 | Codexius | because you have to push key then shift, rather than the other way around |
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07:00.44 | cnc|work | hello all |
07:03.05 | Mitranim | You should use "shift + key" for additional bindings. And "Ctrl" or "Alt" as macro modifier. |
07:03.41 | Mitranim | But note that you need to unbind "Ctrl + ..." or "Alt + ..." from everything that was bound to them, |
07:03.43 | cnc|work | shift can also be used as modifier |
07:03.43 | Mitranim | . |
07:04.13 | Mitranim | Shift is more effective for additional bindings because it's used for dragging spells. |
07:04.47 | Mitranim | So you cannot accidentally drag something away while trying to click a modified macro. |
07:04.54 | Corrodias | mang |
07:05.07 | Mitranim | Also, pressing shift + key is more convenient. |
07:05.13 | Corrodias | i used shift, ctrl, and shift+ctrl to modify 1-6 as my main bindings |
07:05.32 | Corrodias | plus ctrl+Q, E, F, and G. then alt was for self-casting |
07:05.51 | Corrodias | i didn't like pushing buttons with my mouse. |
07:06.05 | Mitranim | I used 1-6 with Q, E, R, F, Z, X, C, T and V and everything with "Shift", "Ctrl" and "Alt", and what? :P |
07:06.37 | Mitranim | I don't get why people don't just turn auto self-casting on? |
07:06.40 | Corrodias | oh yes, shift+ZXCV for pet actions |
07:06.50 | Corrodias | what's auto self-casting do again? i haven't played in a few months |
07:07.25 | Mitranim | It was around for three years already. |
07:07.41 | Corrodias | that doesn't answer the question |
07:08.09 | cnc|work | if you are casting a friendlies only spell and have a hostile targetted it'll take yourself as target automagicaly |
07:08.58 | Corrodias | ah. yeah, that won't do much good for a healer unless you have a pure click-casting method |
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07:10.57 | Mitranim | For a healer I prefer mouseover casting. |
07:11.33 | Mitranim | Mouseovered target gets the first priority, targeted unit gets the second. |
07:11.55 | cnc|work | I'm rerolling a resto drood |
07:11.59 | Corrodias | also a good method |
07:12.06 | cnc|work | prolly gonna make it so a regular click is a mouseover heal |
07:12.11 | cnc|work | and a shift click is a target heal |
07:12.17 | cnc|work | that way I can have the tank permatargetted |
07:12.23 | cnc|work | and alt click would be focus heal) |
07:12.24 | Corrodias | come to think of it, i let alt be self-cast only for spells that could be self-cast. for the rest, i generally had things macroed to cast something else if i had alt held down |
07:12.37 | Corrodias | control+alt+2 could be something |
07:12.43 | cnc|work | well, such macros are anoying to do Corrodias |
07:12.46 | cnc|work | rather use fb for that :p |
07:12.52 | Corrodias | what's fb? |
07:12.59 | cnc|work | flexbar |
07:13.15 | Mitranim | FlexBar is dead, isn't it? |
07:13.20 | cnc|work | eh, no |
07:13.26 | Mitranim | No?! |
07:13.28 | cnc|work | http://files.wowace.com/FlexBar2/FlexBar2.zip |
07:13.28 | Corrodias | i used... what did i use, bartender? best part of using macros was that if i had to stop using the addon, it would still work at least. |
07:13.31 | cnc|work | and i'm working on flexbar3 |
07:14.03 | cnc|work | Mitranim: shame on you |
07:14.09 | Mitranim | Hah, that FB2 isn't much of use compared to the old FlexBar. |
07:14.38 | Corrodias | haha, burned |
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07:15.04 | cnc|work | Mitranim: no mod is |
07:15.12 | cnc|work | flexbar2 can do most of the things blizzard allows |
07:15.18 | cnc|work | and fb3 will be able to do all of them |
07:15.33 | cnc|work | fb can remap in any condition a macro can check for |
07:16.28 | Mitranim | Hmm. Something made me believe that FB2 hasn't more functionality than, say, Bongos. |
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07:19.08 | cnc|work | lol |
07:19.15 | cnc|work | and what is that something ? |
07:19.19 | Mitranim | Heh. I was a hardcore FB user back in times. In fact, I was the only one who did a (splendid, I must say) translation of its original docs into Russian. |
07:19.29 | cnc|work | :o |
07:19.38 | cnc|work | imo, try FB2 out |
07:19.47 | cnc|work | or if you rather wait, at least try FB3 out when I release it :p |
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07:20.05 | cnc|work | FB2 is limited in some aspects |
07:20.06 | cnc|work | fb3 won't be |
07:20.13 | vithos | anyone ever notice blessing +/- spam with MSBT? |
07:20.39 | cnc|work | vithos: I only used it for a few weeks before switching to parrot, but never noticed anything like that |
07:21.10 | Hapnintwo | Hi |
07:22.07 | cnc|work | hi |
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07:24.41 | Fisker- | GOTCHA kd3 |
07:24.53 | Fisker- | also you cog|away |
07:29.51 | Codexius | ok, anyone see if you can figure this out: im trying to make a macro bound to the letter q. if q is pressed, cast fireball. however, if its mod:shift, cast pyroblast. the problem is, its only recognizing shift after q has been held, so shift+q doesnt work, only q+shift |
07:30.16 | Codexius | and naturally id prefer to do shift+q |
07:30.45 | cnc|work | you have shift + q bound to something already |
07:30.52 | cnc|work | which prevents the macro from picking the modifier up |
07:30.59 | cnc|work | go check ur bindings and unbind it |
07:31.08 | Codexius | thats what Mitranim said, but i really dont think i do, but brb |
07:31.12 | Codexius | ill quadruple check |
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07:32.27 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker- |
07:32.27 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Fisker- and turns Fisker- into a brick |
07:32.38 | Codexius | yea, found it |
07:32.40 | Codexius | thanks :) |
07:32.40 | cnc|work | wooohoo |
07:32.43 | Codexius | <3 |
07:32.46 | cnc|work | you got rid of Fisker- ! |
07:32.52 | cnc|work | np Codexius |
07:33.01 | cnc|work | ~hail Thunder_Child |
07:33.01 | purl | ACTION bows down to Thunder_Child and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
07:33.06 | Codexius | anyone direct me the proper way to use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_AddLine? |
07:33.14 | Codexius | im adding GameTooltip:AddLine(tooltipText [, textColor.r, textColor.g, textColor.b [, wrapText]]); |
07:33.23 | Codexius | to my macro, but its just printing it into say |
07:33.33 | Codexius | well, i dont add the color stuff |
07:33.39 | Fisker- | i cannot be stopped |
07:33.44 | Fisker- | not by Thunder_Child not by anyone |
07:34.16 | cnc|work | GameTooltip:AddLine("Fisker- sucks monkey balls very well"); |
07:34.23 | Codexius | lemme try that |
07:34.49 | Fisker- | i cannot be stopped cnc|work |
07:34.54 | cnc|work | if that doesn't work do meTooltip:AddLine("Fisker- sucks monkey balls very well", 1, 1, 1, false); |
07:34.54 | Codexius | that doesnt change the tooltip, just prints out that whole line in say |
07:35.09 | cnc|work | don't forget tooltips don't update when they're already shown |
07:35.20 | Codexius | also printing it |
07:35.23 | Codexius | oh ok |
07:35.39 | Fisker- | that's because i'm so awesome |
07:35.51 | Codexius | nope, its sitll just spamming say |
07:36.16 | cnc|work | GameTooltip:Hide(); GameTooltip:SetOwner(OwnerFrame, "ANCHOR_RIGHT"); GameTooltip:AddLine("Fisker- is dead", 1, 1, 1); GameTooltip:Show); |
07:36.28 | Fisker- | have you learned to /script? |
07:36.55 | Codexius | was i supposed to stick that behind a /script? |
07:36.58 | Codexius | oops, lol |
07:37.11 | cnc|work | <PROTECTED> |
07:37.19 | Fisker- | i win cnc|work |
07:37.20 | Codexius | i was taking you too literall, cnc|work |
07:37.44 | cnc|work | roflmao |
07:38.42 | cnc|work | Fisker-: you win |
07:39.09 | Codexius | still cant digure it out properly |
07:39.12 | Codexius | figure* |
07:39.40 | cnc|work | GameTooltip:Hide(); GameTooltip:AddLine("Fisker- is dead", 1, 1, 1); GameTooltip:Show(); |
07:39.55 | Codexius | all behind one script, or a script in front of each instance of Game |
07:40.20 | Codexius | ? |
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07:42.41 | cnc|work | all behind one script |
07:42.48 | cnc|work | Codexius: when did you start WoW coding ? |
07:43.05 | Codexius | heh not very long ago, i know, i suck, |
07:43.37 | cnc|work | thats rather basic :p |
07:43.43 | Codexius | ok, so the macro started /script GameTooltip:Hide(); GameTooltip:AddLine("Fisker- is dead", 1, 1, 1); GameTooltip:Show(); |
07:43.53 | Codexius | but the tooltip still only shows the macro name |
07:44.54 | cnc|work | you'd have to click the macro for it to show |
07:44.59 | cnc|work | not only mouseover it |
07:45.20 | Codexius | the text doesnt show anywhere |
07:45.30 | Codexius | any way to get the macro mouseover to show information about the macro |
07:45.37 | Codexius | on mouseover? |
07:46.40 | cnc|work | not directly |
07:46.56 | Codexius | even pushing that macro isnt changing my tooltip |
07:47.28 | cnc|work | weird weird |
07:47.29 | cnc|work | gimme a sec |
07:47.54 | cnc|work | bah, I can't run the game from here |
07:48.19 | cnc|work | Fisker-: you help |
07:48.40 | Fisker- | you assume i'm not at work either? |
07:48.46 | cnc|work | you don't work |
07:48.48 | cnc|work | you're a troll = |
07:49.31 | Fisker- | lol |
07:49.33 | Fisker- | i can't login |
07:49.48 | Fisker- | that's odd |
07:51.17 | cnc|work | phail |
07:51.27 | cnc|work | btw Fisker- do you have an ssh I could use by chance ? |
07:51.35 | cnc|work | me wants to ssh to a box so I don't have restricted internet access |
07:51.39 | Fisker- | nevers |
07:52.00 | cnc|work | giefv |
07:52.52 | Fisker- | i don't get it :( |
07:52.55 | Fisker- | i can't login wah |
07:53.16 | Fisker- | whyyyy cnc|work ? |
07:53.18 | cnc|work | â¬> |
07:53.30 | cnc|work | they banned all trolls |
07:53.42 | Fisker- | IMPOSSIBLE |
07:55.29 | Fisker- | hmm |
07:55.31 | Fisker- | now it worked |
07:56.56 | Codexius | what the heck? it used to be if i typed in / it would automatically open up chat panel with a / in there |
07:57.00 | Codexius | now / isnt opening anything |
07:57.04 | Codexius | is there a fix? |
07:57.26 | Codexius | neverd, foud a chat slash keybind |
07:57.27 | Codexius | :( |
07:57.30 | Codexius | nevermind* |
08:01.37 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7735683860&sid=1 <-owned |
08:02.53 | Corrodias | who was owned by whom? |
08:03.37 | Fisker- | the poster |
08:03.39 | Fisker- | by himself |
08:03.55 | Corrodias | also, when a game is conning you into thinking about spending an extra $25 just to move around, you might want to think about how much it should actually be worth to you |
08:04.21 | cnc|work | haha, what an idiot |
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08:05.02 | Corrodias | i'm surprised that it doesn't warn you immediately beforehand... unless it DOES and he just didn't see it |
08:05.08 | Corrodias | or is pretending not to haev |
08:05.22 | Corrodias | haev. like dubm. |
08:05.36 | Fisker- | it does |
08:05.42 | Fisker- | which is why he owned himself |
08:05.59 | durcyn | if he was smart, he would've opened a ticket saying his account was compromised. idiot. |
08:06.21 | Fisker- | would just be a char rollback then |
08:06.24 | Arrowmaster | then they would have gone 'no it wasnt' |
08:07.04 | cnc|work | Arrowmaster: they can't prove it wasn't |
08:07.13 | cnc|work | if he opened a ticket someone transfered him |
08:07.20 | cnc|work | he'd have have a rolblack |
08:08.05 | Arrowmaster | well if he has an isp like mine that tends to constantly give you the same ip address and nobody else had logged in from a different address they would know |
08:08.29 | cnc|work | just go to a friends house |
08:08.34 | cnc|work | and login and play a while from there |
08:08.35 | cnc|work | seriously :p |
08:08.41 | durcyn | so he claims his box was 0wned and the chinamen installed a proxy |
08:08.42 | Arrowmaster | and it sounds like hes already waited the 1 month cooldown |
08:08.56 | durcyn | so he claims he was on vacation for a month. |
08:09.26 | Corrodias | maybe the blizzard rep who handles the ticket would realize what happened and be nice and go along with it |
08:09.42 | durcyn | anyway, there is no burden of proof, they'd just revert it and offer to sell him an RSA key for $6.50 |
08:10.06 | cnc|work | yea, now they won't though |
08:10.08 | cnc|work | too bad for him, idiot :p |
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08:14.25 | Fisker- | cnc|work |
08:14.26 | Fisker- | baww |
08:14.37 | Fisker- | if they can't prove the compromise nothing will happen |
08:14.38 | Fisker- | duh |
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08:23.41 | Mitranim | cnc|work: I got "zomfg FB3! gonna check it out" yesterday when you gave me that example. When will it be done? |
08:24.24 | cnc|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
08:24.50 | cnc|work | use a 100lb trout Fisker- |
08:25.00 | cnc|work | and not a brown one, I want a pink one |
08:25.57 | cnc|work | bah |
08:26.01 | cnc|work | giev 100lb pink trout |
08:26.02 | Fisker- | it appears that i am unstoppable |
08:26.16 | cnc|work | <PROTECTED> |
08:26.23 | Fisker- | :( |
08:26.26 | Fisker- | i was stopped |
08:26.41 | Fisker- | well done |
08:28.57 | Mitranim | "Soon". He-he. I though it was restrictive to the famous "in two weeks" of "Sphere" designers. |
08:29.30 | Mitranim | But it seems that this is common between all game developers. |
08:29.43 | Mitranim | And as well, addon developers. :-( |
08:29.47 | cnc|work | :D |
08:31.56 | Mitranim | Which way of creating addon interface options is better to steal? |
08:32.13 | Mitranim | I'm looking at Ampere and Dominos here. |
08:32.36 | Mitranim | Ampere is simpler, but Dominos creates templates. |
08:32.47 | Mitranim | :-) |
08:35.56 | Mitranim | Tekkub is here! Now, tell me that your code is better to steal. :D |
08:38.51 | Mitranim | Ghrm, not actually steal, but to use as the source of inspiration. :-) |
08:40.42 | Corrodias | blatant plagiarism |
08:40.52 | Corrodias | i'm reporting you to the aol police |
08:41.38 | Mitranim | Hey, I said I'm that not outright stealing people's code. |
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08:49.41 | Mitranim | I'm looking at Ampere code and see something I don't understand. |
08:49.54 | Mitranim | What is the purpose of Refresh()'ing? |
08:51.55 | Mitranim | Anyone here!.. |
08:56.48 | Mitranim | Is there any semantic link between the words "button" and "butt"? |
08:57.18 | Cairenn | don't think so |
08:57.27 | Mitranim | Where do they come from? |
08:57.44 | Cairenn | http://dictionary.reference.com/ |
08:57.46 | Mitranim | I cannot tell cause I'm not a native English speaker. :-( |
08:58.52 | Cairenn | actually, Merriam-Webster is better for giving root |
08:59.32 | Cairenn | http://www.merriam-webster.com/ |
08:59.49 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
09:00.17 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
09:00.47 | Kalroth | She said butt, HEHE |
09:01.52 | Mitranim | Wait, how "butt" is a verb? |
09:02.40 | Mitranim | And aren't there any connection between "beat" and "press" in medieval language? |
09:02.56 | Mitranim | Maybe it actually is one root after all? |
09:03.40 | Corrodias | shut up or i will butt you |
09:03.55 | Corrodias | actually, butt as in head butting is perfectly usable |
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09:04.10 | Corrodias | except never done outside of that phrase |
09:05.48 | Mitranim | Ah, headbutt you were talking about. |
09:06.14 | Mitranim | Well, we can count this proved: "button" and "butt" has the same roo. |
09:06.16 | Mitranim | *root |
09:06.34 | Corrodias | i've reached a 4.7:1 u:d ratio for the diablo 3 gameplay trailer (us). my next plan of action: keep uploading |
09:06.46 | Mitranim | *have |
09:10.50 | Corrodias | i'm off to bed. 'ni |
09:12.26 | Cairenn | o.O |
09:14.03 | vithos | what's the addon called that just puts a movable 3D portrait of a unit on screen? |
09:16.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | adapt is (or may be "was) one |
09:17.34 | vithos | i'm looking to supplement my unitframes, not replace |
09:17.47 | Arrowmaster | so i just downloaded the top gun anthem for gh3 that just became available a few minutes ago |
09:18.38 | Arrowmaster | played medium, really easy, then i tried hard and holy fucking shit its got a complex part and i just failed at 68% |
09:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | adapt is probably what you're looking for, vithos |
09:19.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | if someone is still maintaining it |
09:19.15 | vithos | i mean, i'm using pitbull, not default |
09:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
09:19.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitbull has one built in |
09:19.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought |
09:19.28 | vithos | i know |
09:19.43 | vithos | but the layout/positioning of it is too limited |
09:20.48 | vithos | i.e. i'm using a wide+short frame but want the model to be full body and tall next to it/above it |
09:21.08 | vithos | and i don't want it to be clickable either |
09:21.20 | Mitranim | Mazzle UI? |
09:21.27 | vithos | i thought i remembered seeing a screenshot of something like that a long time ago |
09:22.35 | vithos | i'll see what that uses |
09:23.28 | Fisker- | rawr rawr velociraptor Cairenn |
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09:23.49 | Fisker- | you generally fail Arrowmaster |
09:24.34 | vithos | ah it's part of its own addon |
09:24.52 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: diaf |
09:25.41 | phyber | Arrowmaster: complex part = ETOOMANYHAMMERONS ? |
09:26.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah solo d |
09:26.15 | phyber | :/ |
09:26.37 | Arrowmaster | got through it with a star power but only hit 40% |
09:27.16 | Arrowmaster | so after i did it on medium i checked the xbl leaderboard and i was like 14th out of less than 20 people |
09:27.19 | Fisker- | RAWR RAWR VELOCIRAPTOR Arrowmaster |
09:27.31 | Arrowmaster | just checked it after doing hard am im 66th out of i dont know how many |
09:27.52 | phyber | i don't play GH anymore, my wireless guitar failed and i don't feel like buying another one that will also fail after less than 6 months of play. |
09:28.21 | phyber | and the GH2 guitar is just fail. |
09:28.34 | Arrowmaster | i dont tend to play that much except i got bored and played a lot this weekend |
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09:28.39 | Fisker- | guitar hero is generall fail |
09:28.39 | Fisker- | etc. |
09:30.18 | phyber | :( |
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11:14.30 | Fisker- | Chompers dp die |
11:28.05 | Kalroth | cladhaire: if I try out perfectraid, is it ok that I come to you with all my questions/suggestions/bugs/more suggestions and if you're lucky, some praise? |
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12:24.47 | [sync] | umm |
12:24.48 | [sync] | thingy |
12:24.50 | [sync] | anyone here |
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12:25.22 | wereHamster | no, this channel is empty |
12:25.45 | Josh_Borke | morning |
12:26.11 | [sync] | anyone advise an addon for raid window? |
12:26.14 | [sync] | not like x-perl raid |
12:26.16 | Josh_Borke | wow |
12:26.20 | [sync] | but O > raid, raid window |
12:26.29 | cnc|work | grid tbh |
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12:32.36 | [sync] | grid is a raid group mob thingy |
12:32.41 | [sync] | im using perfectraid for that atm |
12:32.44 | [sync] | im talking about the... |
12:32.51 | [sync] | O hotkey > raids |
12:32.52 | [sync] | that one |
12:32.59 | [sync] | ????? |
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12:34.41 | Snago | [sync]: there's no addon for that afaik. I don't even think it's possible to make one :\ |
12:34.53 | [sync] | whats afaik? |
12:34.58 | Shirik | ~wtf afaik |
12:35.14 | [sync] | cause currently, when I move people around, i get the bars somehow extending out of the window. |
12:35.16 | [sync] | its weird. |
12:35.25 | Shirik | what's he looking for? |
12:35.27 | [sync] | you know how you can drag a bar? |
12:35.34 | [sync] | the bar extends, and it goes too long, |
12:35.53 | [sync] | for instance, the group one bar of say, me, grows so long, it takes over a mage in group 2 |
12:36.24 | [sync] | im confusing you right? |
12:39.16 | Josh_Borke | screenshots help in these instances :-D |
12:39.29 | [sync] | yeah |
12:39.31 | [sync] | im getting one up now |
12:40.16 | [sync] | http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36701893xo4.png |
12:40.38 | [sync] | its quite obvious whats wrong >.< |
12:41.29 | Fisker- | anyone know if you can get some kind of plastic thingy for the WD Velociraptor so it fits like a standard 3.5" drive? |
12:43.24 | [sync] | O.o |
12:56.52 | cnc|work | anyone have a box I could ssh to to get rid of this system's stupid proxy restrictions ? |
12:59.00 | Shirik | uh |
12:59.03 | Shirik | sure |
12:59.08 | Shirik | give me a second to set you up a username |
13:00.11 | cnc|work | <3 Shirik |
13:01.50 | [sync] | >.< |
13:01.53 | [sync] | shirik |
13:01.56 | [sync] | did you see my screenie? |
13:02.06 | Shirik | yup |
13:02.10 | Shirik | I have no idea what the problem is though |
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13:04.23 | Shirik | ~lart passwd |
13:04.23 | purl | shoots passwd in the head |
13:04.29 | Shirik | BAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word |
13:04.34 | Shirik | stfu it'll change in 2 seconds anyway :( |
13:04.35 | [sync] | ok |
13:04.35 | [sync] | :S |
13:04.42 | cnc|work | haha |
13:04.48 | cnc|work | <3 passwd |
13:05.01 | [sync] | btw, i use carbonite |
13:05.02 | cnc|work | it even cries for a password that will be invalid at first login ? :o |
13:05.05 | [sync] | that interacts with the window |
13:05.07 | [sync] | maybe its that? |
13:05.23 | cnc|work | disable at and see |
13:08.22 | [sync] | ok |
13:08.23 | [sync] | thanks |
13:08.33 | Wraithan1 | cnc|work: going to be on when you get home? |
13:08.59 | cnc|work | yea |
13:09.06 | Shirik | anyone familiar with iptables: Doesn't the first entry take priority over later entries? |
13:09.26 | Shirik | oh nm that says source localhost.... I was wondering why I have "accept all" at the top >.> |
13:09.57 | cnc|work | <_< |
13:10.39 | krka | >--< |
13:10.46 | krka | lua>--< |
13:10.47 | lua_bot | krka: No output |
13:11.00 | cnc|work | flail |
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13:29.39 | Wraithan1 | what version of lua is WoW using? |
13:29.51 | Shirik | 5.1.2 |
13:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | Question of great randomness. Is it possible to download older versions of Firefox? I'm not sure I want to recommend 3 to my users yet, it hasn't bee fully tested with my web authoring software... |
13:30.21 | Elkano | well, they'll still patch 2.x until the end of the year I think |
13:31.15 | Lopeppeppy | Their main download page features 3, but I got stubborn and found it elsewhere. :) |
13:37.27 | Funkeh` | Lopeppeppy, I don't recommend 2.0 at all :P |
13:37.31 | Funkeh` | http://secunia.com/advisories/30911/ |
13:37.35 | Funkeh` | have fun ! |
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13:39.07 | Elkano | Funkeh`, that's pre 2.0.0.15 |
13:39.16 | Funkeh` | orly |
13:39.28 | Funkeh` | you kinda missed the point dude |
13:39.29 | Elkano | check the 'solution' ^^ |
13:39.44 | Elkano | well, you don't know what will be found in 3.x |
13:39.50 | Lopeppeppy | Didn't say it doesn't have issues, Funkeh`, but it works with my product, where version 3 hasn't been tested. |
13:39.56 | Funkeh` | I know that it wasn't found in 3.x |
13:40.13 | Elkano | and not in 2.0.0.15 |
13:40.29 | Funkeh` | sigh |
13:40.53 | Elkano | there may be flaws in 3.x that aren't in 2.x so that's not that much of a point |
13:41.21 | Funkeh` | 2.0.0.15 was made to fix those |
13:41.43 | Funkeh` | which never existed in 3.0 in the first place |
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13:44.12 | Funkeh` | when you find 12 exploits in 3.0 in 1 day then your argument might be valid |
13:45.22 | Elkano | at least they were patched fast ^^ |
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13:45.55 | Funkeh` | yeah true |
13:46.19 | Funkeh` | there is still an exploit somwhere in 3.0 unpatched |
13:46.29 | Funkeh` | can't find it now so maybe it was verified false not sure |
13:47.34 | Funkeh` | http://secunia.com/advisories/30761/ |
13:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure there are just as many flaws as there ever were, just different ones. Security is a lie, we've all known that for years. |
13:48.41 | Funkeh` | My point is 3.0 is generally securer than 2.0 since it's had a lot of re-qriting recenty |
13:48.41 | Elkano | Funkeh`, yeah, there is one that is marked for both 2.x and 3.x |
13:48.41 | Shirik | anyone here familiar with linode? |
13:48.42 | Funkeh` | yeah an not fixed in either :x |
13:48.46 | Elkano | what I find funny: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2008/mfsa2008-24.html |
13:49.00 | Elkano | I wonder how they could fix that in 3.0 without an update ;) |
13:49.49 | Funkeh` | maybe it never affected it? |
13:50.10 | Funkeh` | and they are just advertising that 3.0 isn't affected |
13:50.11 | phyber | Funkeh`: who says they were all discovered in one day? they were just all announced at the same time. :) |
13:50.28 | Funkeh` | phyber, meh |
13:50.52 | Elkano | yeah, seems so; so some of these bugs have been fixed in 3.0 before release and where now bundled for 2.x in an update |
13:51.11 | Funkeh` | yeah |
13:51.20 | Elkano | would make sense for less critical |
13:54.00 | Funkeh` | still not sure why that one hasn't been fixed in over 20 days |
13:54.08 | Funkeh` | but me noscript ftw for that one at least |
13:54.27 | Elkano | and wrt the rewriting of FF3 it will most likely have fixed some undiscovered exploits but could also have introduced new ones. as long as they keep patching 2.x I wouldn't say that 3.x is much more secure although wrt the features and such I'd recomend upgrading, too ^^ |
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14:01.56 | Rabbitbunny | Is there a way to run things from the CLI? such as '/console Informant.GetItem(10000)' and have it echo? |
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14:05.28 | Elkano | first it should be /script instead of /console I think and maybe one of your addons provides /dump |
14:06.13 | Rabbitbunny | Yes, turns out Ace does it. Thanks. |
14:06.35 | cncfanatics | connected through irssi now :) |
14:06.37 | cncfanatics | <3 shirik |
14:06.41 | Shirik | <3 |
14:07.45 | cnc|work | I just need to find out how to get metakeys to work now |
14:09.02 | durcyn | if alt isn't working, just send esc-# as a workaround |
14:09.22 | cnc|work | Shirik, could you get your box to accept alt as the metakey ? |
14:09.40 | Shirik | is it really my box's fault? |
14:09.43 | cnc|work | or tell me what the current metakey is for terminals :) |
14:09.51 | cnc|work | I just need to know the metakey rly |
14:09.55 | Lopeppeppy | .... Shirik, how interesting. |
14:10.35 | Shirik | uh, tell me what a metakey is and maybe :) |
14:10.40 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, special brownies? |
14:11.03 | Lopeppeppy | With an inch of chocolate ganache on top, yup... more sugar than any one individual needs in a given week, much less for breakfast. |
14:11.18 | cnc|work | nvm |
14:11.23 | cnc|work | won't anoy you any longer :) |
14:11.40 | Shirik | sorry :( |
14:11.50 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: That sounds like enough sugar for me for one hour |
14:11.54 | Shirik | except what's a ganache? |
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14:14.08 | cnc|work | Lopeppeppy: thats enough sugar for a few minutes for me |
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14:20.58 | cnc|work | damn I'm loving irssi :p |
14:21.28 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, it's sort of a thick fudgey frosting. You can think of it as a huge layer of fudge on top of my chocolate chocolate chip brownie. |
14:22.36 | cnc|work | Lopeppeppy: where to get those ? I'll take a few :p |
14:26.17 | Lopeppeppy | cnc|work, one of my coworkers makes them, omg so good |
14:27.33 | cnc|work | Lopeppeppy: I make that kind of stuff myself sometimes too :) |
14:27.45 | cnc|work | a chocolate cake with chocolate icing and sugar on top is lovely :D |
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14:50.41 | Shirik | I have successfully crashed a Windows command line utility |
14:50.43 | Shirik | I am proud of myself now |
14:51.01 | malreth | i haven't pooped in 24 hours |
14:52.25 | malreth | i'm holding it all in until these Digital Media Academy people finally deliver their software |
14:52.49 | Tenchworks | that sounds rather unhealthy |
14:53.22 | malreth | IT IS! |
14:53.58 | Seerah | how much longer do you expect to be waiting? :P |
14:54.00 | malreth | they're gonna feel so guilty when my colon ruptures and my intestines explode |
14:54.09 | Tenchworks | @Shirik: how'd you crash a command line? |
14:54.19 | Shirik | with the "junction" tool |
14:54.20 | Seerah | perhaps he has skillz |
14:54.50 | durcyn | junction, eh. with luck, maybe you can take your filesystem down as well the next time |
14:54.52 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\Auctioneer>junction "D:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons\" * |
14:54.53 | Shirik | Out Of Memory error |
14:54.57 | Shirik | followed by a death |
14:55.05 | Tenchworks | wow nice |
14:55.44 | Tenchworks | now that's something I never thought I'd see |
14:56.09 | malreth | trying to create a symlink? |
14:57.37 | malreth | wait... |
14:58.07 | malreth | junction is a sysinternals program |
14:58.41 | durcyn | sysinternals was bought by microsoft |
14:58.44 | durcyn | QED |
14:59.43 | malreth | why would you specify * as the target? |
15:00.25 | malreth | granted, it shouldn't have crashed; but still. |
15:00.28 | Shirik | because I want to create junctions to all the auctioneer folders |
15:01.50 | malreth | but the way that command has been specified, you're trying to junction the Addons folder itself to all the Auctioneer folders |
15:02.34 | malreth | and i'm pretty sure (although not 100% so) that a directory can specify only one junction target |
15:02.55 | Shirik | mm, not what this reads as |
15:03.11 | Shirik | usage: junction [-d] <junction directory> [<junction target>] |
15:03.11 | Shirik | -d Delete the specified junction |
15:03.12 | Shirik | example: junction d:\link c:\winnt |
15:03.30 | Shirik | and it can contain multiple junctions because I've done it before :) |
15:03.36 | Shirik | and just got it to work actually |
15:03.44 | Shirik | I think |
15:03.47 | Shirik | have to load up wow first |
15:04.30 | Shirik | yup, works |
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15:05.08 | malreth | so how did you get it to work? |
15:05.15 | Shirik | cheated |
15:05.21 | Shirik | http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10756 |
15:07.38 | Shirik | damn it |
15:07.46 | Shirik | where did cnc go? |
15:08.38 | malreth | you just selected all the Auctioneer folders from your C: drive to the source location on the D:? |
15:09.06 | malreth | s/drive/drive and hardlinked them / |
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15:09.39 | malreth | using he Link Shell Extension? |
15:09.46 | malreth | s/he/the/ |
15:09.55 | malreth | ~botsnack |
15:09.55 | purl | malreth: :) |
15:10.29 | Shirik | malreth, yup |
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15:11.57 | malreth | Shirik: you're running Vista? |
15:12.02 | Shirik | affirmative |
15:12.04 | malreth | kk |
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15:14.57 | Shirik | oh well |
15:15.03 | Shirik | I just restarted my server, hope cnc doesn't kill me |
15:16.36 | Shirik | oh they released the authenticator? |
15:16.59 | Fisker- | RAWR RAWR VELOCIRAPTOR |
15:17.04 | Fisker- | and Shirik they did that @ WWI |
15:17.14 | durcyn | and promptly sold out |
15:17.22 | Shirik | wtf sold out |
15:17.23 | Shirik | die |
15:17.35 | Fisker- | indeed :P |
15:17.36 | durcyn | blizzard US store says 'sold out', sir! |
15:17.41 | Shirik | I noticed |
15:17.42 | Fisker- | again they underestimated the popularity of the item |
15:17.52 | Fisker- | and it's apparently going to take WEEKS to restock |
15:18.03 | Shirik | ................ |
15:18.07 | Josh_Borke | do we know how many they released? |
15:18.24 | Fisker- | 4000 at WWI |
15:18.28 | Fisker- | sold out in less than 2 hours |
15:18.44 | Josh_Borke | hm, 4000 is a slap in the face |
15:18.59 | malreth | ~slap Josh_Borke |
15:19.00 | purl | ACTION slaps Josh_Borke, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
15:20.47 | Tenchworks | i wonder if they have a limit of how many you can buy at a time.... |
15:21.10 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljMODw-fXaI&NR=1 |
15:22.03 | Tenchworks | oh man |
15:22.08 | Tenchworks | the cats are invading |
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15:22.29 | cog|work | ~lart Fisker- |
15:22.29 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Fisker- in half |
15:23.10 | Fisker- | shouldn't the authenticator also prompt for the code when accessing the forums? |
15:23.43 | Tenchworks | hmm good question |
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15:25.56 | malreth | i suspect that's how a lot of people get keylogged |
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15:26.25 | cog|work | Fisker-: it only applies to account management & the game itself |
15:26.36 | malreth | they go to a public or a friend's computer to check the forums and pow |
15:26.54 | Cide | doesn't matter though |
15:26.57 | Fisker- | weird cog|work |
15:27.04 | Cide | that only gives you the password |
15:27.07 | Cide | still need the code |
15:27.14 | Fisker- | sounded like on the us forums that they also used it for the forums |
15:27.23 | Cide | so authenticating with a code on the forums only prevents forum-only bans |
15:27.24 | malreth | i wonder if it would cut down on forum spamming if the authenticator eventually became required |
15:27.48 | Cide | and, granted, some key logging spam from those who do have authenticators |
15:28.20 | Cide | but it doesn't compromise their own account in any way to not use the authenticator on the forums |
15:28.50 | cog|work | worst case scenario, they get to post as you and you get a forum ban for posting porno, etc. |
15:28.56 | Cide | yep |
15:29.11 | Fisker- | i.e. keyloggers |
15:29.22 | Cide | that will happen anyway |
15:29.39 | Fisker- | without accounts to post from? |
15:29.53 | Fisker- | almost vista tiems |
15:29.55 | Cide | you do realize the vast majority WON'T have an authenticator |
15:29.59 | Fisker- | on my RAWR RAWR VELOCIRAPTOR |
15:30.12 | Fisker- | Cide i believe the correct term would be "DON'T" |
15:30.14 | Fisker- | :o |
15:30.22 | Cide | /shrug |
15:30.30 | malreth | Cide: certainly not since they're only selling 4000 at a time. :p |
15:30.31 | Fisker- | indeed |
15:30.39 | Fisker- | hoho malreth |
15:30.41 | Cide | hm? |
15:30.54 | Fisker- | they're probably learned from that brief mistake @ WWI :P |
15:31.10 | Cide | enlighten me? I have only been paying attention to diablo lately |
15:31.41 | Tenchworks | hopefully they have 100 times what they had to sell when they put the thing on sale |
15:32.04 | Cide | that's not enlightening |
15:32.07 | Cide | that's hinting at the issue |
15:32.11 | Tenchworks | oh hehe |
15:32.28 | Cide | but yeah, I hope they can at least supply enough for the demand :P |
15:32.34 | Tenchworks | the blizzard authenticator |
15:32.37 | Cide | but I don't think there's a huge demand |
15:32.46 | Tenchworks | was sold out in like 2 hours after they started selling it |
15:32.49 | Cide | compared to the population anyway |
15:33.08 | Shirik | I want one :( |
15:33.19 | Tenchworks | well 10 million players, I'd expect only 500,000 to actually have a brain |
15:33.38 | Shirik | "It'll never happen to me" |
15:33.39 | Cide | I have plenty of brains and I won't buy one :P |
15:33.47 | Cide | Shirik: yep, it won't! |
15:33.51 | Cide | at least not before wotlk |
15:34.22 | Tenchworks | I wanted to get one, but didn't think they sell out so fast |
15:34.23 | wereHamster | Cide: I wouldn't use absolute words like "can't" or "never" |
15:34.29 | Cide | wereHamster: I would |
15:34.45 | Cide | abstinence goes a long way to prevent keyloggers |
15:34.57 | wereHamster | ah, so you don't play? |
15:34.59 | malreth | he can't get keylogged because he doesn't play WoW. |
15:35.00 | Cide | yep! |
15:35.01 | malreth | never did |
15:35.04 | Cide | ya |
15:35.05 | Cide | I never have |
15:35.09 | cog|work | The only "untrusted" computer I logged into last year was one of the ones Blizzard had set up at blizzcon :| |
15:35.24 | Cide | in fact, ctmod has never existed |
15:35.27 | cog|work | that's my best guess |
15:35.28 | Cide | eat that. |
15:35.37 | Cide | cog|work: heh, ouch |
15:35.40 | Fisker- | rawr rawr velociraptor? |
15:35.43 | malreth | ctmods were all written by orphan children that he keeps in his basement |
15:35.49 | wereHamster | never? I thought you played a horde priest |
15:36.01 | Fisker- | i got paranoid earlier cog|work :( |
15:36.08 | Cide | obvious irony is obvious ;) |
15:36.10 | Fisker- | because my password in-game didn't work |
15:36.17 | Fisker- | but it did on the forums and on the account management |
15:36.36 | durcyn | you're supposed to turn caps lock off Fisker- |
15:36.46 | Fisker- | not case sensitive n00b |
15:36.55 | Cide | I've played 2 undead priests, a night elf druid and a human priest |
15:36.58 | Fisker- | also i billionchecked my password |
15:37.09 | Cide | 99% of the time I played an undead priest |
15:37.16 | Fisker- | i even had the password from the form unmasked and copy/pasted it directly into the game |
15:37.18 | Fisker- | still didn't work |
15:37.30 | Fisker- | but after 10 minutes or so it worked |
15:37.35 | AckisWork | wha'ts your password? I'll try it out for you :P *snickers* |
15:37.43 | Tenchworks | lol ackis |
15:37.53 | Fisker- | Ackissucks |
15:37.58 | malreth | hahah! I nearly called it correctly! |
15:38.02 | AckisWork | needs a number |
15:38.04 | AckisWork | :P |
15:38.05 | Cide | mine's g84eFo |
15:38.08 | Cide | go |
15:38.14 | malreth | the digital media academy people will have the software at... 1pm today |
15:38.23 | Fisker- | do you have a velociraptor AckisWork? |
15:38.29 | malreth | that's what i get for quoting them 4 hours on the install |
15:38.30 | AckisWork | no |
15:38.33 | Fisker- | i do |
15:38.34 | AckisWork | no idea wtf that is |
15:38.36 | Fisker- | zomg |
15:38.48 | AckisWork | almost told my boss to go fuck herself this morning however |
15:38.50 | Cide | AckisWork: my password is g84eFo... go |
15:38.58 | AckisWork | lol |
15:38.59 | Fisker- | ~wiki Velociraptor |
15:39.15 | AckisWork | grats on a dinosaur? |
15:39.28 | Fisker- | <-trolling |
15:39.37 | Fisker- | ~google Western Digital Velociraptor |
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15:39.53 | Fisker- | purl, fuck you |
15:39.54 | purl | Oh, fisker-, Any time, big boy. |
15:40.02 | Tenchworks | haha |
15:40.31 | Fisker- | http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=459 |
15:40.39 | Fisker- | --- 2008-06-25: Version 1.8 RC1 (build 11200) |
15:40.39 | Fisker- | - Change: beta markings removed |
15:40.39 | Fisker- | --- 2008-06-25: Version 1.8 beta (build 11140) |
15:40.46 | Fisker- | only 60 builds to remove the word "beta"? |
15:40.49 | Fisker- | good job |
15:41.21 | Tenchworks | is the heat sink really nessecary? |
15:41.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
15:41.52 | Tenchworks | didn't take seriously when i saw a pic of it yesterday |
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15:41.54 | Fisker- | (not really, but it would be retarded with a 2,5" drive that gets hot and noisy like shit) |
15:41.54 | malreth | for a 10k rpm drive? yes |
15:42.18 | Fisker- | the form factor helps with noise and heat :P |
15:42.23 | Fisker- | i guess it could technically run without |
15:42.28 | AckisWork | only 300 gigs? |
15:42.44 | Fisker- | it's not meant to be a harddrive for porn storage |
15:42.48 | AckisWork | :( |
15:42.49 | malreth | AckisWork: it's a 2.5" mechanism |
15:42.50 | Tenchworks | lol |
15:42.51 | Fisker- | that's what i got my 2 1TB drives for |
15:43.34 | malreth | in other words, a 10" pizza holds fewer toppings than a 16" |
15:43.38 | Fisker- | gonna try out vista now :o |
15:43.42 | Tenchworks | lol |
15:43.48 | Fisker- | nah malreth |
15:43.58 | Fisker- | and i can prove it |
15:44.01 | Fisker- | don't cry cog|work |
15:44.26 | malreth | how much does that drive cost? |
15:44.31 | cog|work | why are lusers so stupid?! |
15:44.32 | Fisker- | http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/309/mackies1of2gr1.jpg <-baww |
15:44.40 | Fisker- | $300 i think |
15:44.49 | Fisker- | of course in this country that means $400 ;_; |
15:45.09 | malreth | Fisker-: that pizza is an example of holographic storage |
15:45.12 | Tenchworks | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260&Tpk=Western%2bDigital%2bVelociraptor |
15:45.18 | Tenchworks | $300 |
15:45.46 | Fisker- | portals etc. malreth |
15:46.54 | malreth | you bought one, Fisk? |
15:47.29 | wereHamster | the harddrive is becoming a bigger heat source then the cpu |
15:47.35 | Fisker- | yeah malreth |
15:47.40 | Fisker- | it's been for a long time wereHamster |
15:47.46 | Fisker- | the VelociRaptor is actually quite cool |
15:47.49 | malreth | Fisker-: tell me how loud it is. |
15:47.55 | Fisker- | when i hook it up later |
15:48.09 | Fisker- | don't have room for more harddrives so i have to switch it out for my current system disk |
15:48.18 | wereHamster | I have a wd caviar and I can barely keep my hand on it. It's that hot |
15:48.44 | wereHamster | I wonder how much heat the SDD produce |
15:48.57 | Fisker- | not much as far as i know |
15:49.08 | Fisker- | but the WD is like 40 celsius @ load apparently |
15:49.18 | Fisker- | but normal harddrives can easily be 60 celsius |
15:49.29 | Matrix110 | Dont think the Raptors are worth their money |
15:49.36 | Matrix110 | the only advantage you get is shorter access time |
15:49.44 | Matrix110 | the transfer rates are only marginal better |
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15:50.32 | Matrix110 | And a Raid 10 or Raid 5 of Samsung F1 750GBs is cheaper, faster, and has more space |
15:50.41 | malreth | when i upgrade my desktop, i was thinking of putting a smaller drive in the case and sticking all my other hard drives into a Drobo |
15:50.45 | Fisker- | yeah |
15:50.54 | Fisker- | cause i have a raid-controller that does raid10 or raid5 :D |
15:51.06 | wereHamster | I need to build a quiet computer, I have the intel atom mini-itx mainboard + SSD in mind. the only fans would be on the northbridge and in the ac adapter, but other then that there would be no moving parts. Has anyone experience with building quiet computers? |
15:51.17 | Matrix110 | SSD is to expensive :P |
15:51.25 | Matrix110 | get a HDD and a box for it |
15:51.30 | Matrix110 | let me find a pic sec |
15:51.36 | wereHamster | 200SFR / 32GB, that's not that expensive |
15:51.42 | Fisker- | sfr? |
15:51.52 | Matrix110 | swiss franken! |
15:51.56 | Fisker- | >:O |
15:51.56 | wereHamster | ~google 200 SFR in USD |
15:52.03 | Fisker- | not gonna happen wereHamster |
15:52.26 | Matrix110 | http://www.ichbinleise.de/smartImages/1910-1-c_w557_h480.jpg |
15:52.29 | Matrix110 | smth like this |
15:53.01 | wereHamster | won't the hd heat up too much in that? |
15:53.16 | Matrix110 | well I wouldnt put a Raptor inside there atleast :P |
15:53.17 | malreth | just get a normal samsung spinpoint drive |
15:53.28 | malreth | most system noise comes from the fans |
15:53.37 | malreth | the video card, in particular |
15:53.44 | Matrix110 | http://www.ichbinleise.de/smartImages/5141-1-c_w600_h480.jpg |
15:54.08 | Matrix110 | My Nvidia card is silent in 2d mode |
15:54.53 | malreth | the spinpoints are what I use... they're plenty quiet, especially if you rubber grommet the mounts and close up the case |
15:54.54 | Fisker- | my card is always silent because the fan stopped working |
15:55.13 | Wikwocket | After some research, I was hesitant to put a raid array together... it seems like if redundancy/backup is what you want, you need to stock an identical replacement raid card |
15:55.14 | vithos | hard drives aren't really that loud anymore |
15:55.41 | Matrix110 | the F1s are still not quiet :P |
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15:55.45 | wereHamster | Wikwocket: unless you use s/w raid |
15:55.52 | Matrix110 | Especially when you write on them |
15:56.13 | vithos | hmm weird |
15:56.21 | Wikwocket | I think there were some disadvantages to a software raid but I can't recall them |
15:56.32 | Fisker- | CPU Usage |
15:56.40 | vithos | my 10k rpm 72GB raptor isn't any louder than my 400GB 7200rpm drives, as far as i can tell |
15:56.45 | Wikwocket | In a s/w raid, the data on the disks is garbage unless you can restore the s/w, right? |
15:56.48 | wereHamster | slower then h/w raid, but if you only use it for backup, it won't matter |
15:57.34 | vithos | Wikwocket, yes but the software is trivial usually? |
15:57.44 | Fisker- | i'm raping you |
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15:58.56 | Wikwocket | hmmm maybe I did not fully investigate the s/w raids |
15:59.26 | Wikwocket | at the time it seemed it'd be easier and safer to buy 2-3 external HD's, and just backup data to them |
16:02.53 | vithos | well, that'd be like raid1 |
16:03.15 | vithos | but with raid1 you need twice as many disks as you started with in order to get the first "level" of redundancy |
16:03.23 | vithos | raid5 or raid6, you just need n+1 or n+2 |
16:04.24 | malreth | a drobo gets raid5 like disk utility and redundancy |
16:04.35 | Wikwocket | What's a drobo? |
16:04.38 | malreth | drobo.com |
16:04.56 | malreth | 4 sata drive usb enclosure |
16:05.08 | vithos | a NAS |
16:05.24 | malreth | vithos: except it's USB, not network attached |
16:05.28 | vithos | oh |
16:05.33 | malreth | although you can buy a network component for it |
16:05.40 | vithos | well, i have a ReadyNAS NV, but i wouldn't recommend it |
16:06.20 | vithos | i intend to replace it with a ZFS pool |
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16:06.54 | Wikwocket | Ooh I like that it's usb |
16:07.04 | Wikwocket | Basically an external HD, but with raid qualities |
16:07.08 | wereHamster | with s\w raid, at least under linux, you can mix the raid levels. I had two disks in my computer, the system was on raid1, data and games on raid0. One disk died a few weeks ago, so I lost all games, but the system still runs just fine. Now when I finally get to it and buy a replacement drive, I can sync it with my existing drive and set up the raid0 partitions and install the games. |
16:07.34 | malreth | Wikwocket: it's perfect for backups or heavy pr0n storage |
16:07.41 | malreth | since speed isn't an issue |
16:07.54 | Wikwocket | We use a Linksys NAS now, 2 parallel HD's. I hate the software/firmware but it keeps redundant copies of all our files |
16:07.56 | malreth | unless it's pr0n... then you want it FAST FAST FAST! |
16:08.42 | malreth | my plan was to attach the drobo to a media dedicated computer and use that to share it across the network |
16:09.25 | malreth | rip my dvds to that and store all my bittorrented anime there |
16:10.10 | Wikwocket | Then all you need to do is put the drobo in a fireproof floodproof safe :) |
16:10.28 | malreth | Wikwocket: that's what i have mozy.com for |
16:10.48 | malreth | offsite backups for my important documents and photos |
16:11.19 | malreth | unlimited storage for $5/month... only downside is it's slow ass slow |
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16:15.50 | Wikwocket | brb |
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16:20.22 | malreth | here's the drive that you need if you really want a silent system: http://gizmodo.com/5021014/sub+500-128gb-drive-from-ocz-may-be-the-ssd-youve-been-saving-for |
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16:21.13 | Shirik | 2.5" |
16:21.28 | Shirik | so it'll fit a SATA laptop huh |
16:21.33 | wereHamster | drobo doesn't support NFS, which makes it worthless for me :( |
16:21.48 | malreth | drobo is just a hard drive enclosure |
16:21.52 | malreth | it supports USB |
16:21.56 | wereHamster | droboshare |
16:22.06 | malreth | hook it up to a computer and export that using NFS |
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16:23.07 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU malreth |
16:23.07 | wereHamster | do you have an idea how fast it is? usb2 is 480mbit/s, can drobo reach that? |
16:23.40 | malreth | wereHamster: no. one of the criticisms is how the drobo doesn't flood a usb2 connection |
16:23.58 | malreth | but in actual practice, it's fast enough |
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16:24.20 | malreth | what i mean is: don't use it for your photoshop scratch disk |
16:24.27 | wereHamster | 80MByte/s? |
16:24.29 | malreth | do use it for your pr0n storage |
16:25.12 | malreth | how fast do you need your pr0n? |
16:25.33 | wereHamster | 80MByte/s, you know... full HD, uncompressed |
16:26.05 | Shirik | you know, I cry when I look at my RTOS IDE, and in it I see "New Managed C++ Project" |
16:26.12 | wereHamster | I think full hd would be more, but 80 is about what I need |
16:26.13 | Shirik | what's the point of having an RTOS if you're going to use GC... |
16:26.59 | malreth | wereHamster: kids these days. when i was your age, i wacked off to 8 bit GIFs of titties as they progressively loaded over a 300 baud connection |
16:27.00 | Wikwocket | Hm I like how the drobo transparently manages everything... but I wonder what happens if the drobo (not its HD's) fails |
16:27.02 | cog|work | don't run GC while you're in another interrupt? |
16:27.35 | cog|work | main purpose of RTOS is low latency so it seems like it could do the GC while idle to no detrimental effect... |
16:28.31 | wereHamster | malreth: it's not for pr0n, but for other videos (I'm looking for a system where I can dump my 'fraps' videos) |
16:28.45 | malreth | is 'frapping' what you kids call it now? |
16:28.47 | Fisker- | malreth when i was your age i wacked off to black & white movies of my mom and dad |
16:28.47 | Shirik | GC while idle, sure |
16:28.53 | Shirik | but GC is completely non-deterministic |
16:28.59 | Shirik | main purpose of RTOS is determinism |
16:29.10 | Wikwocket | Ouch Drobo is $500 but its NIC is 200? |
16:29.32 | malreth | Wikwocket: i don't know if the nic is worth it |
16:29.48 | Fisker- | can you beat it malreth? |
16:29.54 | Shirik | as wikipedia says.... |
16:29.56 | malreth | which is why i plan on sharing it from a computer that i already have |
16:29.57 | Shirik | An RTOS does not necessarily have high throughput; rather, an RTOS provides facilities which, if used properly, guarantee deadlines can be met generally (soft real-time) or deterministically (hard real-time). An RTOS will typically use specialized scheduling algorithms in order to provide the real-time developer with the tools necessary to produce deterministic behavior in the final system. |
16:30.08 | wereHamster | or rather, it would be 'yukon' videos. But I guess you have no idea what it is, hence I used 'fraps' |
16:30.17 | Wikwocket | malreth: indeed |
16:31.17 | malreth | Fisker-: no, you win. gratz. |
16:32.09 | Fisker- | thanks |
16:32.12 | Fisker- | i wanted to win |
16:32.21 | malreth | winning is only half the battle |
16:32.24 | Fisker- | now i need some kind of backup |
16:32.42 | Fisker- | for gargantuan harddrive |
16:32.46 | Fisker- | for my* |
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16:35.09 | malreth | t-mobile is raising its SMS rates |
16:35.40 | Fisker- | owned |
16:35.46 | malreth | and announced it before the iphone 3g launch |
16:36.22 | malreth | queue the subscribers dropping their contract music |
16:36.30 | Wikwocket | wow http://www.drobo.com/products_demo.html is pretty impressive |
16:37.47 | Wikwocket | hot-swapping goodness |
16:41.25 | malreth | Wikwocket: it is pretty slick |
16:41.49 | malreth | i like it because it really allows you to incrementally upgrade the capacity as drives become cheaper |
16:41.57 | Wikwocket | yeah, playing a movie from the raid while hot-swapping drives is kind of exciting |
16:42.20 | malreth | and it has that 'it just does the right thing' mentality |
16:42.27 | Fisker- | how can it keep data it doesn\t have capacity for_ .o |
16:42.31 | malreth | the interface is dead easy to understand |
16:43.11 | malreth | Fisker-: it uses FREE... POTENT... ANTIPOWER to store your data |
16:43.47 | Wikwocket | probably some tachyons are involved |
16:44.54 | foxlit | meh, usb |
16:45.17 | Fisker- | your mother imo |
16:45.54 | malreth | USB is universal. it even says so in the name. can you think of anything better? huh? huh? HUH?!@#! |
16:46.03 | Fisker- | also it has bus in it |
16:46.23 | malreth | Fisker-: which is why it's so good at storing pr0n |
16:46.43 | foxlit | IEEE 1394 |
16:46.56 | Fisker- | IEEE 1394 sounds confusing |
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16:54.52 | malreth | New game for the jesusphone coming out this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8wGj1txvI |
16:56.00 | Fisker- | religion sucks |
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16:58.03 | foxlit | if those are not the guys who made locoroco, there's nice potential for a lawsuit there |
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16:59.39 | malreth | ideas and inspiration can't be copyrighted |
16:59.41 | Fisker- | lets make them aware of it |
16:59.45 | Fisker- | yes it can malreth |
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16:59.57 | Fisker- | also |
17:00.00 | Fisker- | patent pending |
17:01.37 | foxlit | some of those visuals look like they were lifted more or less directly |
17:02.37 | malreth | bah... people, honestly |
17:02.55 | Fisker- | screenshots or it didn't happen foxlit |
17:02.58 | malreth | realistically, anyone can sue anyone for anything |
17:03.25 | malreth | but the gameplay is different. the mechanics are different |
17:03.35 | foxlit | I need to file a patent for use of annoying music in game levels |
17:03.50 | foxlit | (and the anti-aliasing is crappier) |
17:04.02 | Fisker- | good job foxlit |
17:04.03 | Fisker- | you win |
17:04.59 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKpyScxv0k |
17:05.54 | Fisker- | sound sounds familiar? |
17:07.01 | Fisker- | do not want though |
17:07.03 | Fisker- | vista tiems |
17:07.04 | Fisker- | bai |
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17:19.56 | cncfanatics | wotlk signups started :o |
17:20.08 | cncfanatics | is wowinterface giving some out to devs again ? |
17:20.48 | Dashkal | wtb US opt-in button... |
17:20.49 | cog|work | this isn't for the beta |
17:20.56 | cog|work | it's a chance to get into the beta |
17:21.12 | Sixen | Heh |
17:21.21 | Sixen | WotLK Signups coul;dn't have started |
17:21.33 | cog|work | here's the screenshot that mmo-champion posted |
17:21.35 | cog|work | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/lichkingbeta.jpg |
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17:21.37 | cncfanatics | the signups started, not the beta |
17:21.45 | cncfanatics | thats what I said didn't I ? :p |
17:22.01 | Bibi | mmo-champion is a LIE. |
17:22.14 | End | But is moo-champion cake? |
17:22.21 | End | er |
17:22.23 | cncfanatics | but, will wowi give out beta invites again to devs at some point ? |
17:22.24 | End | mmo-champion even |
17:22.37 | cog|work | cncfanatics: i'm sure Cairenn|afk will try :) |
17:23.10 | Dreagar | can i capture AbandonQuest, and get the questname from that? |
17:23.58 | Dreagar | or do i have to do somethin like check during the quest log update for missing quests? |
17:26.50 | Dreagar | i mean i could captre the onclick for the abandon quest button, and get the name then, but what if they don't say yes on the confirm? |
17:27.03 | Kirov | hooksecurefunc( "AbandonQuest", function() ChatFrame1:Addmessage(GetAbandonQuestName()) end) |
17:27.08 | cncfanatics | Dreagar: there are probably events triggered when you abandon a quest ? |
17:27.17 | cncfanatics | why not use that ? |
17:27.19 | Kirov | see if when you abandon a quest the name is still valid |
17:27.24 | Kirov | It might not be |
17:27.41 | Dreagar | i been lookin, and all i've found is methods in the api, but no eents. |
17:27.59 | cladhaire | there aren't events, afaik |
17:28.03 | cladhaire | its a static popup with a confirmation API |
17:28.09 | cladhaire | what are you trying to do? |
17:28.12 | Dreagar | actually the api tends to think you need to get the name before the questabandon method |
17:28.14 | cladhaire | just get the name? |
17:28.29 | Dreagar | I'm trying to get the quest name when a quest is abandoned. |
17:28.41 | cncfanatics | UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGED ? |
17:28.43 | Dreagar | so i can remove that quest from a table. |
17:28.44 | cladhaire | then do what Kirov said |
17:28.53 | Dreagar | kk. :) |
17:28.55 | cladhaire | hold on a sec tho |
17:29.44 | cog|work | Dreagar: i think you should get devtools |
17:30.00 | cog|work | it shows you all events as they happen, lists their args and everything |
17:30.11 | cladhaire | Does this need to work in any sort of system? |
17:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | s/i think // |
17:30.16 | Dreagar | i used to have them. :( |
17:30.19 | cladhaire | or can I give you a "better" solution that isn't more general |
17:30.26 | cog|work | ~devtools |
17:30.27 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
17:30.34 | Dreagar | how do you mean clad? |
17:30.49 | cladhaire | do the following |
17:30.51 | Dreagar | thanks cog, i forgot where to get it. lol |
17:30.54 | cladhaire | securehook SelectQuestLogEntry() |
17:31.00 | cladhaire | get the quest name from that function |
17:31.18 | cladhaire | oh no, that doesn't work |
17:31.24 | cladhaire | use |
17:31.28 | cladhaire | !api SetAbandonQuest |
17:31.28 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SetAbandonQuest' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetAbandonQuest |
17:31.31 | cncfanatics | it sounds highly weird that there isn't any event triggered with the name of the quest thats abandoned |
17:31.34 | cladhaire | hook that |
17:31.54 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: most of the events "like" that don't give things like the name |
17:32.09 | cladhaire | but you can use SetAbandonQuest to track the name |
17:32.29 | cladhaire | and then know that AbandonQuest actually does the abandoning, followed by a QUEST_LOG_UPDATE |
17:32.59 | Dreagar | that's what i was thinin of doin, capturing the onclick of the abandon quest button, gettin the quest name, and when the update comes around, see if it's still in there, just wanted an easier way |
17:33.14 | cladhaire | don't capture the onclick |
17:33.14 | cladhaire | use the API |
17:33.19 | cladhaire | SetAbandonQuest |
17:33.38 | Dreagar | so hook setabandonquest? |
17:33.43 | cladhaire | securehook |
17:33.46 | cladhaire | and store the name of the quest |
17:34.02 | Dreagar | then when the update comes around, see if it's in the log still, if not it was abandonded. |
17:34.08 | cladhaire | *nod* |
17:34.11 | Dreagar | kk thanks! |
17:34.33 | Dreagar | i'm not sure i understand securehook, but 'll reread the how-to on the wiki before i ask questions. lol |
17:34.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty simple |
17:34.47 | cladhaire | its like chapter 22 or something |
17:34.50 | cladhaire | explains why you need it :P |
17:35.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It calls a function of your choosing after the function you are secure hooking fires |
17:35.22 | Dreagar | chapter 22? |
17:35.23 | cladhaire | without tainting |
17:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the basic, basic overview |
17:35.32 | kd3 | whee at a tropical storm forming just off the coast of africa in the first days of july |
17:35.41 | kd3 | active season this year, yay |
17:37.08 | Dreagar | so hooksecurefunc(SetAbandonQuest, function _() { questName = GetAbandonQuestName()}end) |
17:37.23 | cladhaire | you don't need to name the function... |
17:37.31 | wereHamster | hooksecurefunc(SetAbandonQuest, function() questName = GetAbandonQuestName()}end) |
17:37.32 | cladhaire | like |
17:37.34 | wereHamster | hooksecurefunc(SetAbandonQuest, function() questName = GetAbandonQuestName() end) |
17:37.36 | cladhaire | wow. |
17:37.39 | cladhaire | lol ;-) |
17:37.59 | Dreagar | awseome. THanks! :) |
17:38.03 | cladhaire | and you need to hooksecurefunc("SetAbandonQuest", function() questName = GetAbandonQuestName() end) |
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17:38.09 | cladhaire | arg1 has to be a string |
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17:38.17 | cladhaire | that _should_ work |
17:38.29 | cladhaire | as far as tracking it |
17:38.40 | wereHamster | ah, right. sorry |
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17:39.15 | Dreagar | right o. :) i'll give it a whirl right now. :) |
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17:42.38 | Dreagar | worked like a charm. thanks guys. :) |
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17:46.04 | malreth | if they make Arthas killable in Wrath, the game server should make a copy of the character that picks up Frostmourne, boost his/her stats, and make that copy the new boss that the server then has to defeat |
17:46.24 | AckisWork | arthas > than 1 character |
17:46.49 | AckisWork | Lets drop the raid boss from 10 million hp, to 10k... sweet! :P |
17:46.51 | Shirik | on unix-based systems, is there a good way to get the contents of a directory programmatically? Or should I just popen ls? |
17:47.14 | Dashkal | oh man I used to know that call... |
17:47.18 | malreth | did i not just say, "boost his/her stats" |
17:48.56 | haste | Shirik: luafs? |
17:49.12 | Shirik | not Lua |
17:49.20 | Shirik | this is a random C++ application, sorry |
17:49.41 | cladhaire | look at how lfs does it |
17:49.43 | Dashkal | Shirik: readdir, opendir |
17:49.45 | pastamancer | Shirik: man 3 opendir |
17:49.48 | cladhaire | and do the same :P |
17:49.53 | Shirik | <3 <3 <3 |
17:50.15 | Dashkal | also, ubuntu apparently doesn't install the man category 3 pages with gcc anymore... |
17:50.43 | pastamancer | egad! |
17:51.21 | Dashkal | I shouldn't be so surprised. docs haven to be installed at all since '06 |
17:51.29 | Dashkal | stupid enter key right next to the ' |
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17:57.50 | Fisker- | how are i gentleman? |
17:57.54 | Fisker- | all my base are belong to me |
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18:01.44 | malreth | Fisker-: how's vista? |
18:01.47 | cncfanatics | grrrr |
18:01.49 | cncfanatics | FUCK THIS |
18:01.55 | malreth | ~fuck cncfanatics |
18:02.04 | cncfanatics | since I updated my linux ati drivers I can't even play a fucking avi anymore |
18:02.07 | cncfanatics | FUCK ATI |
18:02.12 | malreth | i guess purl doesn't swing that way |
18:06.40 | Thunder_Child | malreth, vista good, listening to Fisker-'s opnion, bad. |
18:06.56 | Fisker- | your mother Thunder_Child |
18:06.57 | Fisker- | btw |
18:07.07 | Fisker- | at the moment i can't hear my velociraptor |
18:07.14 | malreth | because... |
18:07.14 | Fisker- | and it's less warm than the 2 idle drives i have |
18:07.15 | Fisker- | :o |
18:07.17 | malreth | the drive is dead? |
18:07.28 | Fisker- | fuck, then my vista is loaded into the memory |
18:07.30 | Fisker- | i'm boned |
18:07.59 | malreth | because... the mechanism instead of containing platters holds the unhatched eggs of alien hellcreatures |
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18:08.28 | cncfanatics | how cool, since the latest ati driver updates my gfx card is too slow to play an avi file |
18:08.30 | cncfanatics | LOVELY |
18:08.34 | Lunessa | .. station |
18:08.52 | malreth | Lunessa: http://www.citronix.net/blog/ |
18:09.06 | malreth | we better start on our apprenticeships |
18:09.24 | Fisker- | moo: ram: 1369/4094.2MB (33.43%) [|||-------] |
18:09.25 | Fisker- | :( |
18:09.27 | Fisker- | moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista⢠Ultimate - Service Pack 1 (6.0.6001) |
18:09.27 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, didnt you have an onjoin for that? |
18:09.28 | Fisker- | :( |
18:09.47 | Lunessa | nuked the onjoin Thunder_Child |
18:10.05 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: wtf ? :s |
18:10.18 | Fisker- | indeed? |
18:10.20 | Fisker- | moo: hdd: C:\ 262.07GB/279.46GB D:\ 820.48GB/931.51GB E:\ 747.51GB/931.51GB |
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18:11.36 | Fisker- | ;_; shouldn't install this driver etc. |
18:12.21 | cncfanatics | using 900megs of mem myself atm though |
18:12.21 | Lunessa | malreth: Holy crap. You mean the nice police officer who's computer I fixed should have arrested me? |
18:12.27 | cncfanatics | weird, whats taking so much ? |
18:12.36 | Fisker- | dunno |
18:12.38 | Fisker- | i just installed |
18:13.02 | Fisker- | iexplore.exe :P |
18:14.37 | cncfanatics | this is fucked up |
18:14.40 | cncfanatics | fuck you ati |
18:15.31 | Fisker- | no fuck you! |
18:15.48 | cncfanatics | brb, rebooting |
18:15.57 | cncfanatics | (ati drivers don't like x being restarted ...) |
18:16.13 | Lunessa | Well crap. Looks like my side-line income just went poof. |
18:16.49 | Kirov | Lunessa - another hobo take your corner?? |
18:17.45 | Lunessa | Kirov - No, the state passed law requiring that I have a PI license to investigate causes broad categories of computer data. |
18:18.06 | Kirov | Ah, you live in Tex-ass |
18:18.39 | Kirov | Could be worse. |
18:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: yeah, I'm reading that now... this is.... one impressive law |
18:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/pdf/HB02833F.pdf |
18:19.53 | Lunessa | It's... massive in scope. |
18:20.13 | Kirov | You could live in a state where they actually passed the "academic freedom" law, or have your state elected education official go on the record saying they "don't believe in science" |
18:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 33 pages of "may" and "may not" |
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18:20.21 | Fisker- | >:( |
18:21.08 | Fisker- | i hate you |
18:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
18:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | "[(4)] be suffering from habitual drunkenness or from narcotics addition or dependence; or |
18:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
18:21.48 | Kirov | addition? |
18:21.51 | Lunessa | Kirov: It means that computer work I do routinely now requires a criminal justice degree and $500 in fees yearly, or I need a 3-year apprenticeship as a PI. |
18:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *addiction |
18:22.08 | Fisker- | mirc looks kinda shit in this |
18:22.09 | Fisker- | :( |
18:22.35 | Kirov | Lunessa - aye, I read about that the other day. |
18:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If I had to guess, or hope - this law will be entirely ignored as soon as all seven licensed PC technicians give up on fixing an entire state |
18:23.12 | Kirov | ScytheBlade1 - seven? |
18:23.14 | Kirov | Try none |
18:23.23 | Lunessa | The really ironic thing is I broke this law to help a police officer. He could have/should have arrested me. |
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18:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, awesome |
18:23.35 | Fisker- | yay |
18:23.38 | Fisker- | i'm rated 5,5 |
18:24.53 | Fisker- | ZOMG I CAN WIN+TAB |
18:25.01 | Fisker- | now i am glad |
18:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: I dunno. One really really effective way would be for EVERYONE to follow that law. If I had to guess, it'd last a week tops before someone decided it should be changed |
18:25.51 | Lunessa | I have to go show this to my boss. |
18:25.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, do it |
18:25.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Do it now |
18:28.01 | Duman | hmm |
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18:30.00 | Wikwocket | For anyone interested in Drobo's from before, here are some package bundles I found: http://www.drobo.com/offer/survey.html |
18:30.23 | Fisker- | my sound sounds crap :( |
18:31.22 | Lunessa | He's taking it seriously. |
18:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | er? |
18:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | As in, no more work for you or him? |
18:32.01 | Lunessa | As in, we have to be very careful while we find out what it means for us in-house. |
18:32.03 | Fisker- | i'd hit it Wikwocket |
18:41.38 | Lunessa | http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/162 |
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18:43.30 | cncfanatics | w000t |
18:43.35 | cncfanatics | my linux system just trashed itself |
18:43.39 | cncfanatics | DAMN I LOVE ATI DRIVERS |
18:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: nicely done |
18:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, that wasn't your system trashing itself |
18:43.52 | Fisker- | i love you cncfanatics |
18:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That was you trashing it! |
18:44.02 | cncfanatics | kind of |
18:44.07 | cncfanatics | I did something wrong clearly |
18:44.16 | cncfanatics | as grub now has as only option to boot up "windows xp" |
18:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
18:45.06 | cncfanatics | better get dowloading a fucking cd on this shitty xp box |
18:45.14 | cncfanatics | btw, did I mention the latest ati drivers suck ? |
18:45.47 | wereHamster | you don't need to mention that, it's common knowledge |
18:46.02 | cncfanatics | well, I'm wasting my time here |
18:46.03 | cncfanatics | can't do shit :s |
18:46.22 | wereHamster | no computer store open to buy a nvidia card? |
18:46.39 | cncfanatics | no money |
18:46.44 | cncfanatics | I work this month to buy a new compu |
18:47.02 | cncfanatics | might try to get my parents to buy me it before I'm done working and that I back em back |
18:47.40 | cncfanatics | or if someone wants to donate :) |
18:48.44 | Lunessa | Interesting: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7722642665&sid=1 |
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18:49.23 | cncfanatics | http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff148/Exportpilz/lol4th.jpg is intresting as well |
18:50.01 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: All I have to give away is an ... wait for it ... ati card. |
18:50.21 | cncfanatics | ... |
18:50.27 | cncfanatics | if its one of those cards worth 1k its ok |
18:50.32 | cncfanatics | I'll sell it and buy a compu with it |
18:50.42 | Lunessa | It's one of those cards that's 2+ years old. |
18:51.12 | Lunessa | Unless you have AGP Video? In which case I might have an Nvidia card laying around. :P |
18:51.38 | cncfanatics | its agp yes |
18:51.45 | cncfanatics | I got like an old radeon 9600 :p |
18:52.12 | Lunessa | Holy crap. Well, when I get home, I'll check my spare-bits box. |
18:52.30 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how will I get my hands on said card though ? |
18:52.41 | Lunessa | I'll use the postal system. |
18:52.53 | Lunessa | Unless, you know, I scare you. |
18:53.02 | cncfanatics | only Fisker- scares me |
18:53.03 | Thunder_Child | qft |
18:53.20 | cncfanatics | damn, using the windows xp assistant to write something sucks |
18:53.21 | cncfanatics | hard |
18:53.56 | cncfanatics | it crashed, yay |
18:53.57 | Fisker- | indeed cncfanatics |
18:54.00 | cncfanatics | no rescue disk for me |
18:54.10 | cncfanatics | guess I'll get alcoho |
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18:55.22 | Mitranim | Good morning everyone. I have a question: what is the difference between "gray" and "grey"? |
18:55.42 | cncfanatics | gray is a color |
18:55.44 | cncfanatics | grey is a color |
18:55.45 | Lunessa | both are valid spellings. |
18:56.00 | cncfanatics | Grey is the last name of a character in a book of Oscar Wild |
18:56.05 | cncfanatics | or was it Gray ? |
18:56.18 | Wikwocket | Earl Grey? |
18:56.23 | Mitranim | Hmm... |
18:57.00 | cncfanatics | anyway, I'm pissed on my computer, can't do shit anymore ... |
18:57.04 | cncfanatics | can't even play WoW :p |
18:57.30 | Lunessa | Dorian Grey |
18:57.42 | Lunessa | Google it. It's an interesting story. |
18:58.17 | cncfanatics | I read it for school not so long ago |
18:58.35 | cncfanatics | well, I actualy read a summary of it, but meh |
18:58.48 | cncfanatics | anyone know where I can dl the latest version of Wow ? |
18:58.56 | cncfanatics | my linux is trashed and I need to install it on my win |
18:59.49 | cncfanatics | and wow-europe is ofc down |
19:00.49 | Lunessa | You can download it off the WoW site or fileplanet |
19:00.59 | cncfanatics | WoW europe is down, fileplanet it is then |
19:01.22 | Fisker- | 1-0 |
19:02.11 | cncfanatics | can only find patches on fileplanet |
19:02.18 | cncfanatics | and an US trial version, me needs EU |
19:02.23 | haste | why not wirebrain? |
19:02.29 | Fisker- | indeed |
19:02.32 | Fisker- | mr. haste |
19:02.35 | Fisker- | set sail for fail |
19:02.53 | haste | cncfanatics: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
19:03.11 | Fisker- | didn't i just tell you to set sail for fail? |
19:03.25 | haste | too tired to move |
19:04.19 | cncfanatics | <3 haste |
19:04.35 | cncfanatics | is it fast haste ? |
19:04.38 | Fisker- | TF2 tiems |
19:04.42 | Fisker- | baww |
19:04.51 | haste | cncfanatics: define fast |
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19:05.32 | cncfanatics | 1mg/s ? |
19:06.21 | cncfanatics | lets see what speed this torrent can hit |
19:06.22 | haste | I'v gotten 4MB/s at least |
19:07.05 | cncfanatics | well, this is crappy utorrent :) |
19:07.07 | cncfanatics | giev rtorrent ^^ |
19:07.25 | wereHamster | as client? use transmission |
19:07.37 | Thunder_Child | cncfanatics, utorrent > all |
19:07.42 | haste | rtorrent > * |
19:07.48 | cncfanatics | rtorrent >>>> * |
19:07.51 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm rtorrent |
19:07.56 | haste | by far |
19:08.00 | cncfanatics | seriously, rtorrent rocks |
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19:08.29 | cncfanatics | utorrent 172kb/s atm |
19:08.40 | cncfanatics | I downloaded at 1mg/s with this line before |
19:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I've pushed 45mbit upstream with rtorrent before |
19:12.09 | cncfanatics | well, I'm not uploading at all |
19:12.13 | cncfanatics | limited bandwidth lines :( |
19:12.36 | cncfanatics | anyone know if windows can somehow read reiserfs partitions in an lvm ? |
19:12.48 | cncfanatics | I would at least like some data back :p |
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19:15.19 | Anaral | Woot! I don't care if it's just a ploy to fend off the masses for just a couple of hours, I've opted in! Have you? https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html |
19:16.24 | Anaral | Whoops, meant to post this in WoWui. Sorry for spam |
19:16.42 | haste | uhm... |
19:16.44 | Anaral | Um, I did... nm, my tabs are screwed up |
19:16.46 | Anaral | lol |
19:16.58 | kachna|lappy | owned |
19:16.59 | Anaral | It looked like I was in a different channel. |
19:17.58 | Anaral | Heh |
19:19.12 | cncfanatics | would it be possible to sue amd for making the worst gfx cards ever ? |
19:19.49 | haste | the OSS drivers are improving at least |
19:20.11 | cncfanatics | are they better then the priopriatery drivers yet for 3D ? |
19:20.46 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: No, vote with your feet/wallet. Don't buy their shite. |
19:20.46 | haste | no idea, I haven't used AMD in years |
19:21.28 | Nechckn | Pardon me folks... anyone suggest what poisons a baby rogue should use- either crippling or instant on both weaps or one of each? |
19:21.43 | ScytheBlade1 | instant/instant |
19:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | crippling if you have mobs that run, but only on one weapon |
19:22.07 | Lunessa | For raw DPS, Instant/Instant. For runners... one of each. |
19:22.10 | Dashkal | instant/instant for most thing, I use cripple/deadly for runners |
19:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
19:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Beat you all |
19:22.33 | Nechckn | Ah... interesting, good points- Many thanks! |
19:22.40 | Nechckn | damn runners... |
19:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, all rogues do |
19:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why they gave them... I forget the name of it |
19:23.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
19:23.15 | Nechckn | plus I just had to pick the gnome type... and his legs are sooo tiny |
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19:23.51 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
19:23.57 | cncfanatics | blizz downloader is beating utorrent |
19:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Deadly Throw! There we are |
19:23.59 | cncfanatics | rofl |
19:24.12 | Nechckn | lol well, once I get it =) |
19:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: the blizz download also uses HTTP mirrors to augment the download speed |
19:24.40 | cncfanatics | true |
19:24.46 | cncfanatics | damn http mirror started at 1mg/s |
19:24.50 | cncfanatics | now its down to 100kb/s |
19:24.51 | cncfanatics | wtf ? |
19:25.10 | cncfanatics | any way to get the url of the http mirror to dl from it directly ? |
19:25.14 | Lunessa | WTB Forum ToC Poster that run on Mac OSX |
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19:31.25 | wereHamster | cncfanatics: what's mg/s? mili-gigabyte per second? |
19:32.02 | wereHamster | cncfanatics: strings WoW-downloader.exe | grep http:// |
19:32.25 | Cide | wereHamster: milligrams. |
19:32.36 | cncfanatics | miligrams of electrons per second |
19:32.40 | Cide | no |
19:32.43 | wereHamster | how much grams is one byte? |
19:32.49 | cncfanatics | about zero |
19:32.59 | cncfanatics | slightly more, but not much |
19:33.15 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
19:33.16 | Fisker- | you die |
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19:33.20 | wereHamster | so when you said 'damn http mirror started at 1mg/s' what you really meant was 'I'm not downloading at all' ? |
19:33.25 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: I'll take you with me as slave |
19:33.32 | Fisker- | can't |
19:33.40 | cncfanatics | s/mg/mb/ |
19:33.41 | Cide | 0's are slightly heavier than 1's |
19:33.44 | Fisker- | something regarding your mother cncfanatics |
19:33.54 | Cide | so storing data either increases or decreases the weight of your harddrive |
19:33.56 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: its mom not mother |
19:34.17 | cncfanatics | Cide: electrons *do* weigh something don't they ? |
19:34.21 | Cide | of course |
19:34.37 | Cide | about 10^-31 kg |
19:34.37 | cncfanatics | so I'm correct |
19:34.42 | Cide | or was it 10^-19 |
19:34.47 | cncfanatics | I wish I had a 1mg/s download speed |
19:34.53 | cncfanatics | 10^-19 is a proton I think ? |
19:34.54 | Cide | nope |
19:34.55 | Cide | -31 |
19:34.58 | Cide | -19 is charge |
19:35.03 | Cide | |
19:35.03 | Cide | electron mass = 9.10938188 Ã 10-31 kilograms |
19:35.10 | Cide | elementary charge = 1.60217646 Ã 10-19 coulombs |
19:35.17 | cncfanatics | kay |
19:35.19 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
19:35.30 | cncfanatics | how much electrons per second would would 1mg/s be ? |
19:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Uhh... a lot |
19:36.07 | Cide | >>> 10^-6 / (9.109*10^-31) |
19:36.07 | Cide | Cide: 1.0978153474586e+024 |
19:36.11 | Cide | a few |
19:36.26 | cncfanatics | how much bytes can you transport through a cable with that much electrons ? |
19:36.36 | Cide | technically |
19:36.50 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
19:36.53 | Cide | if you time your arrivals of electrons |
19:37.05 | cncfanatics | each electron should be a 1 |
19:37.06 | Cide | you could represent an arrived electron as a 1, and the lack of one as a 0 |
19:37.17 | cncfanatics | yea, but I doubt we can time that correctly :p |
19:37.20 | Cide | so it all depends on how fast you can time the arrivals |
19:37.23 | Cide | unfortunately |
19:37.29 | Cide | electrons move fairly slowly through wires |
19:37.44 | Cide | measured in millimeters/sec or less, iirc |
19:37.49 | cncfanatics | :o |
19:37.55 | cncfanatics | so you could time it actualy ? |
19:37.55 | Cide | photons would be a better choice |
19:38.04 | cncfanatics | yea, fiber ftw |
19:38.18 | Cide | no, because you'd have several electrons coming in at once |
19:38.26 | Cide | can't have a single electron queue, so to speak |
19:38.29 | cncfanatics | not true |
19:38.34 | cncfanatics | if you have a cable of 2x2 atoms |
19:38.40 | cncfanatics | 1 I mean |
19:38.45 | Cide | most metals have 30 or so electrons |
19:38.46 | cncfanatics | a cable of one atom thick |
19:38.59 | cncfanatics | would let electrons queue perfectly ? |
19:39.02 | Cide | I'm not sure if they "skip" one at a time |
19:39.11 | Cide | or if it's even consistent |
19:39.17 | cncfanatics | mmmm, my physics are rusty |
19:41.35 | cncfanatics | http://195.130.135.231//WoW-BurningCrusade-enGB-Full-Installer.pieces/ is the folder where all pieces of the installer are in :o |
19:41.39 | cncfanatics | anyone feel like messing with wget ? |
19:42.01 | Cide | newp |
19:42.05 | Cide | burning crusade is old news |
19:46.54 | Lunessa | mmmm... drugs. |
19:48.30 | Lunessa | I hold here in my hand a a single part which crippled a building's network for days. Cisco 1000 BASE-SX 850nm LASER. Such a tiny little device. So very wicked cool. |
19:49.19 | Kirov | fiber laser? |
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19:50.08 | cncfanatics | what did it do Lunessa ? |
19:50.11 | Lunessa | Yeah. It was the link from the fiber to the router. |
19:50.32 | cncfanatics | hmmmm Lunessa, do you have lots of hardware I can mess around with ? :p |
19:50.39 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Beta opt-in: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html |
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19:50.51 | Lunessa | I wish. They only gave this one to me because it's broken. |
19:51.10 | Lunessa | I just wanted to open it up and look inside. |
19:51.37 | cncfanatics | Dashkal: wait a few weeks tbh |
19:51.42 | cncfanatics | they always invite in several phases |
19:51.49 | Dashkal | cncfanatics: oh I know, but I can hope :p |
19:51.53 | cncfanatics | the chance ur in the first phase is closer to 0% then to 5% :p |
19:52.06 | Dashkal | I just got permission from the boss (stupid NDA) so now all I can do is wait/hope |
19:52.13 | Lunessa | What, angling for beta invites to DIII? |
19:52.22 | cncfanatics | wotlk you mean |
19:52.30 | Dashkal | not so much for D3. I intend to buy it, but I don't care if I get to beta it |
19:52.46 | cncfanatics | I'm hoping Cairenn manages to give out beta invites to devs again |
19:52.52 | cncfanatics | thats how I get in for TBC |
19:53.00 | Kirov | Dashkal - I think you transposed two of the letters there. It's your boss's stupid DNA |
19:53.16 | Dashkal | hey, I have good bosses. Seriously :p I love my job |
19:53.18 | Lunessa | I didn't get into TBC, though I was in for the last wave of "open beta" for the game itself. |
19:53.26 | Cide | Kirov: rofl |
19:53.34 | Dashkal | I just won't sign/aggree to/whatever an NDA without letting the hand that pays me know :p |
19:54.16 | cncfanatics | gonna watch bleach |
19:54.47 | cncfanatics | Dashkal: thats Hubert right ? |
19:55.06 | Dashkal | cncfanatics: huh? This is the sound of that going right over my head... |
19:55.16 | cncfanatics | wait, who do you work for again ? |
19:55.24 | Cide | flagship studios |
19:55.28 | Cide | ^ would be hilarious |
19:55.29 | Dashkal | Small startup dev company |
19:55.34 | cncfanatics | name ? :o |
19:55.35 | Dashkal | Cide: *shudder* |
19:55.37 | cncfanatics | and location ? |
19:55.43 | Dashkal | Convaxis. Vancouver, BC |
19:55.56 | cncfanatics | kay |
19:56.00 | cncfanatics | gonna watch bleach now |
19:56.00 | Kirov | Cide - that'd be next door to me. :P |
19:56.05 | Cide | Kirov: nice |
19:56.06 | Lunessa | <--- Needs a better job. |
19:56.10 | Dashkal | I would rather have nothing to do with the company that did vent... |
20:04.02 | Cide | thanks |
20:04.09 | Cide | sarcasm is awesome |
20:04.15 | Cide | so I do my best |
20:04.56 | Cide | ^ I couldn't come up with a sarcastic response fast enough, sorry to disappoint Lunessa |
20:05.21 | AckisWork | no way! |
20:05.23 | Lunessa | fucker. |
20:05.43 | Cide | AckisWork: why don't you say hello to.. no wait, there's nobody there. |
20:06.00 | AckisWork | lol |
20:06.02 | Shirik | Anyone know what tcp/1995 is? nmap says it's "perf-port" |
20:06.13 | Cide | Shirik: depends on the values of t, c, and p |
20:06.19 | Shirik | ... |
20:06.19 | AckisWork | was just trying to help w/ the sarcastic responce |
20:06.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:06.33 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Cide!i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (tcp this) |
20:06.40 | Lunessa | LAWL |
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20:06.41 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
20:06.46 | Cide | there is no tcpoon |
20:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
20:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
20:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... |
20:06.56 | ScytheBlade1 | That's terrible |
20:07.01 | Cide | I know |
20:07.05 | Cide | that's what makes it so awesome |
20:07.06 | Shirik | made me laugh, sadly |
20:07.11 | Cide | I'm still laughing |
20:07.15 | Lunessa | Our packet, which is on ethernet, hallowed be they bits. |
20:07.16 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its used by cisco network hardware, iirc |
20:07.25 | Shirik | hm, ok |
20:07.39 | Dashkal | Cisco perf port (source: http://www.auditmypc.com/port/tcp-port-1995.asp) |
20:07.58 | Shirik | yeah, I went to that page |
20:07.59 | nevcairiel | however its not in the protected range, so it could be anything |
20:08.00 | Shirik | that tells me nothing |
20:08.03 | cog|work | ~fail Lunessa |
20:08.04 | purl | Lunessa: FAIL! |
20:08.17 | Lunessa | ~lart cog|work |
20:08.17 | purl | gives cog|work a good seeing to |
20:08.34 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It's closed, too, but it happened to be the only port that responded, so I was curious |
20:09.14 | nevcairiel | cisco uses 1993-1999 for some management tasks |
20:09.27 | nevcairiel | oh some lower ports too |
20:09.28 | nevcairiel | i guess |
20:12.45 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
20:13.35 | Lunessa | Vodka would be nice. Provided it isn't that swill from the well. |
20:14.49 | cncfanatics | cisco |
20:15.01 | cncfanatics | they use something with a name like that at work for firewall |
20:15.45 | Lunessa | Tomorrow is a holiday. We're closed. 2/3rds of the campus has already left. And yet... Here I sit until 10:30pm GMT-6. |
20:17.32 | Lunessa | Hence my desire for vodka to mix with my tea. |
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20:19.06 | Shirik | #lua has entered bash-worthy conversations... |
20:19.55 | Cide | Shirik: there is no link |
20:20.08 | Cide | what are you, computerally challenged? |
20:20.21 | Shirik | o.o;? |
20:20.32 | Cide | where is the paste? |
20:21.03 | Lunessa | Yeah. Don't make me join a channel once I've f*ing missed it. :P |
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20:22.14 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/90579 |
20:22.32 | Shirik | in particular, starting at line 22 |
20:22.58 | cncfanatics | w00000t |
20:23.07 | cncfanatics | found a 2.3.0 full version of WOW dl'ing at 1.1mb/s |
20:23.10 | Cide | line 11 is fucking hilarious. |
20:23.13 | cncfanatics | finaly some decent speed |
20:24.29 | Cide | but I ask myself, since when has inductance and resonance been at all related? |
20:25.10 | Lunessa | Cide that only happens when the Wham is overheating. |
20:25.25 | Cide | ah. I should have known. |
20:26.20 | Lunessa | I'm probably the only one who understood my damned movie reference. |
20:27.04 | cncfanatics | probably |
20:27.06 | cncfanatics | explain it :D |
20:27.22 | Cide | Lunessa: I only watch movies worth watching |
20:27.38 | Fisker- | boo btw |
20:27.38 | Lunessa | In the 80s, it wasn't too bad. |
20:27.40 | Shirik | Cide: AC power :) |
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20:28.17 | Cide | Shirik: just divide by 2^0.5 and you're set |
20:28.33 | Cide | note: I don't know what I'm talking about |
20:30.44 | Lunessa | -- this is the film. It was terrible. But I was 14, and Eddie Murphy was still funny. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086955/ |
20:31.38 | Cide | I'm not on my game tonight |
20:31.47 | Cide | for all this time, I was trying to think of something sarcastic to say to you Lunessa |
20:31.52 | Cide | I think you jinxed it |
20:31.59 | Cide | so I'll just go with |
20:32.02 | Cide | I curse the day you were born. |
20:32.06 | Lunessa | My work here is done. |
20:32.51 | Cide | I can't believe nobody got THAT movie reference |
20:35.01 | Lunessa | I've seen the stupid "Do a Michael Jackson" and "the WHAM IS OVERHEATING" clip on the web so many times... |
20:35.23 | Cide | but nobody got "I curse the day you were born" |
20:35.33 | Cide | sad. I didn't think you'd let me down like this Lunessa. |
20:35.37 | cncfanatics | "I curse the day Cide was born" |
20:35.54 | Cide | clever, original, innovative. mm, I smell a great joke here. |
20:38.08 | Lunessa | WIN - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU_14ZPCMfc |
20:40.31 | Lunessa | Terrible movie. |
20:42.39 | cncfanatics | can someone figure how big this file is ? http://www.4fansites.de/world_of_warcraft_client/4fansites.de_wow_2_3_0_7561_engb.rar |
20:42.51 | cncfanatics | my browser won't tell meh |
20:44.40 | Fisker- | because the webserver fails |
20:45.04 | Cide | here's something that works |
20:45.05 | foxlit | server fails, more likely |
20:45.06 | Cide | download it |
20:45.18 | Cide | and then check the file size on your local filesystem |
20:45.32 | cncfanatics | I'm doing just that |
20:45.34 | cncfanatics | according to the server |
20:45.39 | cncfanatics | the file is MINUS 600 megs |
20:45.51 | cncfanatics | Size: -651951600 Bytes |
20:45.53 | foxlit | not finished uploading, np :) |
20:45.54 | Fisker- | yes |
20:45.57 | Fisker- | because the server fails |
20:46.07 | Cide | actually |
20:46.19 | Cide | it's set up to randomly stream you guys 1's and 0's randomly |
20:46.22 | Cide | forever |
20:46.29 | cncfanatics | Die |
20:46.38 | Cide | courtesy of me. |
20:46.45 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/90581 for the record |
20:46.49 | cncfanatics | apache bug ? |
20:47.00 | cncfanatics | oh, and why didn't they fucking set up an ftp for big files like that ? |
20:47.04 | Fisker- | probably |
20:47.08 | Fisker- | old apache is oooold |
20:47.12 | foxlit | google calculator should let you cast things :) |
20:47.16 | cncfanatics | ya, 1.3.34 |
20:47.57 | cncfanatics | well, its full WoW 2.3.0 |
20:48.02 | cncfanatics | so I'm guessing its at least 4gig ? |
20:50.02 | cncfanatics | haha |
20:50.19 | Cide | that's almost infinity |
20:50.21 | Cide | like I said |
20:50.24 | Cide | so that's random 1's and 0's |
20:50.28 | Cide | more or less |
20:51.31 | cncfanatics | EPIC http://www.pastey.net/90582 |
20:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah I read that back when it was first posted |
20:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a great read |
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20:52.42 | malreth | i told them... i told them no hardware installs. they agreed to this |
20:52.46 | malreth | what do they do? |
20:52.51 | malreth | they show up an hour late |
20:52.57 | malreth | with 4 iMacs to install |
20:53.01 | cncfanatics | Archimonde: The key to this encounteris to make sure that all the retards in your guild are playing as either hunter, shaman or druid |
20:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | "you will recive purpals and then you get to see the guild miners strut their stuff as they consistently fail to mine crimson spinels." |
20:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | There's more truth to that statement than can possibly stated |
20:54.13 | cncfanatics | ya |
20:54.35 | cncfanatics | you forgot a "be" in your phrase btw |
20:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol I did |
20:55.33 | cncfanatics | One of the truths that trancend WOW raiding across many dungeons of all types and sizes is: Dont Stand in the Fire. With this encounter, blizzard has introduced a new twist to the classic fire, with an alluring Blue tint thats sure to entrance even your most hardened veteran raider. |
20:57.07 | cncfanatics | roflmao |
20:57.14 | Fisker- | you'll get destroyed cncfanatics |
20:57.19 | cncfanatics | Gurtogg Bloodboil: You are in a Guild. In your Guild There are Shamans. In your Shamans' Spellbook There is a Button. This Button is called Brain Heal. In ye olde timey days of yore, healers in MMO's had to engage in the laborious task of selecting the targets they wished to heal. But those days are over thanks to the stunning healing technology available to every shaman in the form of Brain Heal (It does the thinking for you!). |
20:57.34 | cncfanatics | the guy who wrote that is epic :p |
20:58.16 | Shirik | f that |
20:58.20 | Shirik | bloodboil is not for shamans |
20:58.23 | Shirik | it's for priests |
20:58.28 | cncfanatics | Mother Sharazrazaz: Phase 1 of this fight is 2-3 weeks long and involves farming trash for heart of darknesses. |
20:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: or, OR |
20:58.49 | Shirik | ~hug Lunessa |
20:58.50 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Lunessa and suddenly hugs Lunessa tightly |
20:58.57 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: your guild is bad enough that you spent enough time wiping on the trash and likewise farmed up complete sets of SR gear long before you ever saw her |
20:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | (<---) |
20:59.08 | cncfanatics | that works too |
20:59.19 | cncfanatics | OR you could buy hearts of darkness with gbankz moneyz |
20:59.47 | cncfanatics | ~slap Lunessa |
20:59.48 | purl | ACTION slaps Lunessa, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
21:00.11 | cncfanatics | The other amazing thing about this fight is that whenever someone dies no matter how early or late or how preventable or unavoidable their death, that person is 100% guranteed to claim that their healthstone was on cooldown. Cherish these moments folks, you only live once. |
21:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Except in my case, that's actually true |
21:01.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Because healthstones and mana gems share cooldowns |
21:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
21:01.35 | cncfanatics | guess the fight btw |
21:01.38 | cncfanatics | what fight is that ? :p |
21:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | council |
21:02.27 | cncfanatics | Chef Illidan has prepared a special meal for your raid: The Flames of azzinoth, and he encourages you to have a taste, but I would personally advise against it unless you are wearing full FR gear. Fans of bright colors will ejoy this phase: featuring Neon Green Fire, neon Blue Lazers, and Neon Blue Fire behind the Neon Blue lazers! As per WoW Raiding rule 47.2(b) You still Shouldnt stand in the fire. This phase is also where your warlo |
21:02.37 | cncfanatics | I love the neon part :D |
21:05.55 | Lunessa | Anyone else here play an Enhancement Shaman? |
21:06.08 | malreth | what's a shaman? |
21:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | what's a shaman? |
21:06.18 | Lunessa | ~whalenuke malreth |
21:06.19 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around malreth with his mind powers. |
21:08.05 | wereHamster | "I'm listening to what you say but I only hear what I want to" - "That's just called being a woman" |
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21:08.36 | malreth | ~lart wereHamster |
21:08.36 | purl | rm -rf's wereHamster |
21:09.23 | Lunessa | wereHamster: You lips are moving but all I hear is "balh blah blah" |
21:09.43 | wereHamster | A blonde at 'are you smarter then a 5th grader", question is: "Budapest is the capital of what european country" |
21:10.04 | Kirov | America! |
21:10.57 | Lunessa | Is that the show with Jeff Foxworthy? |
21:11.03 | Anaral | I hate cows! They can be such jerks! |
21:11.52 | wereHamster | Hungary? That's a country? I've heard of Turkey, but Hungary? never heard of it |
21:13.46 | Kirov | United States of America should probably be renamed to Glutony |
21:14.03 | Lunessa | malreth: How do you stand it when Professors in computer science can't figure out how to change their domain passowrd? |
21:14.41 | malreth | Lunessa: i've found that computer science expert generally does not imply computer expert |
21:15.10 | Lunessa | ... but the button says "Change Password" on it. *headdesk* |
21:15.34 | malreth | how do you get to that "change password" button? |
21:19.25 | cncfanatics | how can a professor in computer science not be able to use a fucking computer ? |
21:19.38 | malreth | easy |
21:19.59 | malreth | computer science has absolutely nothing to do with windows domain passwords |
21:20.06 | malreth | or anything even remotely related |
21:20.21 | cncfanatics | true |
21:20.35 | cncfanatics | but if you are a bit logical and good with computers u'll be able to mess enough with windows to find where to change that |
21:20.38 | malreth | dijkstra didn't even really use a computer |
21:21.04 | malreth | he had his research assistants do that menial work |
21:21.34 | malreth | dijkstra used the only tools a computer science god needs... a pen and paper |
21:21.49 | malreth | actually, probably a whiteboard |
21:21.57 | malreth | maybe a chalkboard |
21:21.57 | Lunessa | I'm just saying... if you can't read the button... |
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21:22.22 | Lunessa | You should pay me a lot more than what you are. |
21:22.39 | wereHamster | I so miss the chaser's war on everything :( |
21:23.30 | Kraps | how often does the armory update? |
21:23.38 | cncfanatics | whenever you logout |
21:23.48 | cncfanatics | well, its suposed to anyway |
21:26.23 | malreth | "Having invented much of the technology of software, Dijkstra eschewed the use of computers in his own work for many decades. Almost all EWDs appearing after 1972 were hand-written. Even after he succumbed to his UT colleaguesâ encouragement and acquired a Macintosh computer, he used it only for e-mail and for browsing the World Wide Web." |
21:26.37 | malreth | hahah! |
21:27.29 | Lunessa | Good for him. |
21:27.53 | krka | that |
21:27.58 | krka | s interesting |
21:28.38 | Kraps | i cant find myself |
21:28.51 | Kraps | need yoga :p |
21:28.57 | wereHamster | ~seen Kraps |
21:28.59 | purl | kraps is currently on #wowuidev (6m 46s) #wowwiki (6m 46s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 8s, last said: 'need yoga :p'. |
21:29.07 | wereHamster | I found you :) |
21:29.18 | Kraps | yay! |
21:29.30 | Kraps | in the armory |
21:29.32 | krka | i agree - computer science has very little to do with computers, it is more related to math (logic, set theory, et.c.) |
21:33.31 | Lunessa | Yes, but still, these guys use computers and read English daily. How hard can it be to read the "Change Password" button? |
21:34.27 | cncfanatics | "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." |
21:34.39 | malreth | i love that line |
21:35.15 | malreth | especially since i have a degree in Telescoponomy |
21:35.29 | cncfanatics | glad I'm gonna study APPLIED computer science :p which is all about programming |
21:35.49 | malreth | we call that computer engineering here at UT |
21:36.16 | cncfanatics | applied computer science here |
21:36.24 | cncfanatics | guess the highschool of gent wanted to make a fancy name |
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21:40.17 | Lunessa | Close your eyes, and imagine a serene lake in the mountains, with mist rising into the cool morning air. Now repeat after me, "My nine-iron is an extension of my penis." |
21:40.51 | Cairenn | o.O |
21:40.52 | malreth | if i ever took up golf as a hobby |
21:41.15 | malreth | i'd have a cast of my penis made and turned into a putter |
21:41.30 | Lunessa | snicker. |
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21:41.44 | malreth | "he's on the green... and malreth pulls out... why yes, i believe that's a schlong" |
21:43.10 | Dashkal | Lunessa: *blinks* I saw that movie, but I forgot what it was called... |
21:43.14 | Lunessa | *screen blanks out* Please stand by. We are experiencing technical difficulties. |
21:43.23 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Rockula. |
21:43.29 | Dashkal | aha, danke |
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21:43.49 | Lunessa | Thomas Dolby in the role of Stanley. |
21:44.49 | Lunessa | I asked him once in a "celebrity chat" if after his role in that movie he ever considered doing more acting. His reply "What is this? Blackmail?" |
21:45.24 | malreth | http://www.theperfectphit.com/ |
21:47.01 | Lunessa | malreth: You should no longer be allowed to surf the 'net. You keep breaking my illusions that humans can't get any odder. |
21:47.27 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: I'm 100% sure you'll never meet the most odd person on earth |
21:47.46 | Lunessa | That's a moving target. |
21:48.00 | cncfanatics | y |
21:48.02 | Lunessa | And 'sides Anna Nicole Smith is dead. |
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21:50.35 | cog|work | again!!? |
21:50.46 | Anaral | Why in the world does McDonalds not have a menu on their site??? The closest I can find is their nutritional facts chart. |
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21:51.39 | cncfanatics | :o |
21:51.42 | cncfanatics | BIll gates: âWe've really achieved the ideal of what I wanted Microsoft to become.â |
21:51.59 | cncfanatics | so he wanted microsoft to become a money gripping, poorly coding and very limiting company ? |
21:52.11 | Dashkal | It made money, what else do you want? |
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21:52.54 | Matrix110 | Well you can flame MS as much as you want but without them I doubt the PC would be that far :P |
21:52.58 | cncfanatics | maybe |
21:53.05 | cncfanatics | can't know what wld have happened without em rly |
21:53.13 | cncfanatics | another company might have emerged and made thigns better/worse |
21:53.29 | Lunessa | Bill Gates did one thing that I whole-heartedly support. He pushed the idea that people who create computer code should get paid for their work. |
21:53.29 | Matrix110 | And tbh |
21:53.32 | Matrix110 | MS is better than Apple |
21:53.44 | Matrix110 | (not talking about their code though) |
21:54.44 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: agree with that |
21:54.52 | nevcairiel | (23:51:57) (cncfanatics) so he wanted microsoft to become a money gripping, poorly coding and very limiting company ? <-- thats just wrong, pure flame without any real facts ;) |
21:55.15 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: are you telling me windows is not poorly coded ? |
21:55.21 | nevcairiel | yes, i am |
21:55.22 | cncfanatics | and that MS is not money gripping ? |
21:55.31 | Matrix110 | I wouldnt say Windows is poorly coded |
21:55.33 | Lunessa | There's a pretty good book about the history of the computing movement called "Hackers: Heros of the Computer Revolution" - tells some good stories. :) |
21:55.35 | nevcairiel | all companys want money, thats nothing special |
21:55.41 | Matrix110 | but the design has some issues :P |
21:56.07 | kd3 | heh. figured... just the opt-in |
21:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | yup, nothing else |
21:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | They aren't opening up the flood gates on you quite yet |
21:56.41 | nevcairiel | there is "closed" beta before "open" beta anyway |
21:56.46 | nevcairiel | no flood gates on closed :P |
21:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Compared to a literally hand picked few? |
21:57.47 | nevcairiel | some are probably hand-picked or from a special group of players, like developers |
21:58.05 | nevcairiel | some from that random thingy from the opt-in |
21:58.16 | nevcairiel | some from the WWI/BlizzCon beta tickets |
21:58.58 | Matrix110 | Forum MVPs and hopefully lots of Addons devs :P |
22:00.09 | cncfanatics | hopefully lots of addon devs indeed |
22:00.20 | cncfanatics | I want to update my stuff for wotlk and I don't want other people's stuff to break either :p |
22:00.49 | Matrix110 | Well I think the change to the Addon System is not that big as with 2.0 |
22:00.57 | foxlit | you don't really need beta access for that, though :) |
22:01.00 | Matrix110 | Seeing they changed so much recently |
22:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Matrix110: that really depends... if they're finally deprecating arg1, arg2, arg3, etc globals or not |
22:01.25 | foxlit | Some PTR time of the 2.0.3-equivalent patch and you can fix anything you want :) |
22:01.41 | foxlit | or was it 2.0.1? |
22:01.42 | cncfanatics | if they're not making ground breaking changes, yep |
22:01.45 | Matrix110 | Well the devs should get atleast something from writing addons :P |
22:01.56 | Matrix110 | So let them get Beta Access |
22:01.56 | Matrix110 | :D |
22:02.24 | cncfanatics | thats what the wowi signup was for back at TBC bet |
22:02.26 | cncfanatics | beta* |
22:02.29 | cncfanatics | I hope it comes again |
22:02.54 | Matrix110 | That was nice ye for the devs that didnt had a BEta account already |
22:03.47 | Matrix110 | But slouken will hopefully sneak some of the devs name inside the beta list:D |
22:04.36 | cncfanatics | hopefully y |
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22:04.38 | ScytheBlade1 | s/slouken/zoot/ |
22:04.44 | cncfanatics | does he even know all dev's account names ? :p |
22:04.52 | cncfanatics | or would they have a list of that somewhere ? :p |
22:05.13 | kd3 | they see our account names on the forum. I'm sure a list wouldn't be too hard to put together. >.> |
22:05.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
22:05.26 | cncfanatics | and for those who never ever post on forums ? |
22:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: your loss! |
22:06.16 | cncfanatics | I'm 100% sure I'm not the only one :p |
22:06.28 | cncfanatics | any forum except my guild one (which is 100% non-serious) bor eme |
22:07.49 | Matrix110 | Well Its not about all devs getting Beta access anyway would be to many :P |
22:08.05 | Matrix110 | But going to WoWi/Curse and taking the TopX authors |
22:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | There's a reason that taking the Top X authors wasn't done for TBC |
22:08.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's amazingly selective for no good reason :P |
22:08.37 | bleeter | #define top |
22:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
22:08.48 | Matrix110 | Number of Downloads :P |
22:08.56 | cncfanatics | Matrix110: hardly relevant |
22:08.58 | clad|sleep | flawed to say the least |
22:09.06 | Matrix110 | Well I know it doesnt mean they code good |
22:09.13 | clad|sleep | I think we have no need to worry |
22:09.15 | cncfanatics | tbh, if they gave everyone that played WoW and knows lua beta access it wouldn't be *that* much |
22:09.25 | Dashkal | authors of the addons most actually used? |
22:09.26 | clad|sleep | beta for BC worked out just fine |
22:09.30 | clad|sleep | i doubt they'll somehow regres |
22:09.30 | cncfanatics | true |
22:09.33 | clad|sleep | regress |
22:09.43 | bleeter | well, I have a huge problem with BC beta |
22:09.53 | Dashkal | not saying they should, but htat's a metric they could actually use to a degree since they can collect stats on who uses what mods |
22:09.59 | bleeter | how the HELL the let the starting zone be so bugged on first release is totally beyond me |
22:10.06 | bleeter | *they let |
22:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: beta. |
22:10.24 | bleeter | what were the BC testers from the community doing? sitting on their butts? :P |
22:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I suggest more Q_Q is in order ;) |
22:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't know. adding content to the game? ;) |
22:10.49 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I'm from QQ central today. I've got THE QQ song of all time in my head ;) |
22:10.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
22:11.11 | cncfanatics | eqg+89s7h9g+7d48h5416587 |
22:11.18 | cncfanatics | I just downloaded a 3gig archive and its fucking CORRUPT |
22:11.20 | Matrix110 | that looks like a PW |
22:11.23 | Matrix110 | oh |
22:11.24 | Matrix110 | :-( |
22:11.29 | clad|sleep | ~md5 that sucks |
22:11.32 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Hunters-And-Collectors/Say-Goodbye.html |
22:11.41 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna keep that md5 tbh |
22:11.44 | cncfanatics | ~sucks |
22:11.44 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
22:11.53 | cncfanatics | ~sucky |
22:12.04 | cncfanatics | ~that sucks |
22:12.05 | bleeter | YOU DON'T MAKE ME FEEL |
22:12.09 | foxlit | considering addons are inherently third party, though |
22:12.13 | bleeter | LIKE I'M A WOMAN... ANYMORE!!!!!! HAH! |
22:12.14 | cncfanatics | purl, that sucks is c930e6d143112d8b391edc7326973025 |
22:12.14 | purl | cncfanatics: I think you lost me on that one |
22:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa now |
22:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter's gone emo on us |
22:12.37 | bleeter | sif the hunnas are emo |
22:12.44 | clad|sleep | emo kiwi! |
22:12.58 | clad|sleep | lolol :P |
22:13.05 | bleeter | sif sheep rooter |
22:13.14 | bleeter | :P |
22:13.15 | Dashkal | 'cuts', not 'stabs', bleeter. l4n2emo |
22:13.19 | clad|sleep | srsly |
22:13.22 | clad|sleep | ~emo |
22:13.23 | purl | /wrists |
22:13.35 | clad|sleep | ~literal emo |
22:13.36 | purl | "emo" is "<reply> /wrists" |
22:13.40 | clad|sleep | aaw |
22:13.46 | clad|sleep | i feel like that could be so much better =/ |
22:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: so fix it imo! |
22:14.19 | bleeter | nao!!! |
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22:15.15 | bleeter | silly silly icq |
22:15.20 | clad|sleep | ~emulate cladhaire |
22:15.21 | purl | I'm taking down the server again |
22:15.27 | clad|sleep | wow thats old |
22:15.31 | clad|sleep | ~literal emulate cladhaire |
22:15.32 | purl | "emulate cladhaire" is "<reply>Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art. || <action> shakes, berries fall to the ground.||<reply>I'm taking down the server again" |
22:15.58 | clad|sleep | purl, no emulate cladhaire is <reply>Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art. || <action> shakes, berries fall to the ground. |
22:15.59 | purl | clad|sleep: okay |
22:16.01 | bleeter | clad|sleep: s/like/as it is/ |
22:16.10 | cncfanatics | hmmm, whats mine anyway |
22:16.16 | cncfanatics | ~emulate cncfanatics |
22:16.17 | purl | wah wah |
22:16.20 | clad|sleep | hahahaha |
22:16.23 | cncfanatics | rofl |
22:16.25 | Matrix110 | ~emulate Matrix110 |
22:16.30 | Matrix110 | :-( |
22:16.37 | cncfanatics | how to set a literal again ? |
22:16.45 | Matrix110 | ~fail |
22:16.45 | purl | Sorry, matrix110, you have failed. |
22:16.45 | clad|sleep | just tell purl |
22:16.58 | clad|sleep | say "purl, foo is bar" |
22:17.03 | Matrix110 | No purl you have failed |
22:17.11 | cncfanatics | purl, emulate cncfanatics is You can clip our wings, but we will always remember what it was like to fly. |
22:17.11 | purl | ...but emulate cncfanatics is already something else... |
22:17.17 | cncfanatics | purl, forget emulate cncfanatics |
22:17.18 | purl | i forgot emulate cncfanatics, cncfanatics |
22:17.21 | cncfanatics | purl, emulate cncfanatics is You can clip our wings, but we will always remember what it was like to fly. |
22:17.22 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
22:17.27 | cncfanatics | ~emulate cncfanatics |
22:17.27 | purl | emulate cncfanatics is, like, You can clip our wings, but we will always remember what it was like to fly. |
22:17.28 | clad|sleep | aww, you can't set your own emulate |
22:17.30 | clad|sleep | that's cheating |
22:17.47 | cncfanatics | purl, forget emulate cncfanatics |
22:17.47 | purl | i forgot emulate cncfanatics, cncfanatics |
22:17.52 | clad|sleep | lol |
22:17.53 | cncfanatics | the wah wah just sucks :) leave it blank then |
22:18.05 | Stanzilla | ~emulate cncfanatics |
22:18.42 | foxlit | ~emulate purl |
22:18.43 | purl | ACTION spams the channel with useless trivia, inane triggers, and finally, slaps itself with an especially large sea-faring mammal. |
22:18.43 | Stanzilla | just wanted to check if he answers if he forgot something |
22:19.01 | cncfanatics | ~whalecrit purl |
22:19.02 | purl | ACTION crits purl with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. purl dies |
22:19.29 | cncfanatics | I'm going to get some sleep |
22:19.31 | cncfanatics | g'night ppl |
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22:23.23 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: ping |
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22:23.28 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: pong |
22:23.37 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: look in #wowace pls |
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22:29.08 | Lukian | Cairenn, just ban them already :p |
22:29.24 | Cairenn | Lukian: I have, 3 times now |
22:29.28 | Cairenn | they keep getting around it |
22:29.34 | Lukian | ah right :( |
22:29.42 | Cairenn | I think I hopefully have it this time, thanks to some assistance by Dave2 |
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22:30.28 | Cairenn | and I'll put it in here before he even gets a chance to come here instead |
22:30.34 | Dashkal | <3 |
22:30.38 | Lukian | hopefully they don't find any of the other wow channels ^_^ |
22:31.01 | Lukian | I noticed gatway/web was banned elsewhere (or previously in a channel) I was wondering why XD |
22:31.02 | Cairenn | given how many of them I have op status in, I can take care of him if he does |
22:31.02 | Arrowmaster | your first one had a *.* in it which kept it from matching correctly |
22:31.31 | Lukian | *!*@gateway/web/* <- do it! :D |
22:31.58 | Dashkal | ethen appears to be serpent: ethan12 <i=18224938@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fc8711493e8acd89> âc-24-34-73-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.netâ |
22:31.59 | Cairenn | no :p |
22:32.13 | wereHamster | won't that ban the cosmos users as well? |
22:32.47 | Lukian | wereHamster, and that is a problem, why? :) |
22:32.57 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: the other ones still there |
22:32.58 | Dashkal | Cairenn: if you could, though? at it again |
22:33.10 | Cairenn | yeah, I see |
22:33.13 | Lukian | name ban them too after |
22:33.20 | wereHamster | Lukian: yes, very much. Cosmos users are redirected here |
22:33.46 | Cairenn | but the ban list is full, I have to find someone I can take off it, first |
22:34.04 | Lukian | LOL |
22:34.14 | Arrowmaster | remove *!*.*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a766dc252fc5d4ec |
22:34.18 | Arrowmaster | it was your first one that didnt work |
22:34.33 | Arrowmaster | *!62d998ff@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a766dc252fc5d4ec was your 2nd that didnt work |
22:35.56 | Cairenn | thanks Arrowmaster |
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22:46.50 | cncfanatics | anyone has some good programming resources for me to read ? |
22:46.54 | cncfanatics | waiting for a dl to finish |
22:47.08 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
22:47.09 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
22:47.11 | Cairenn | :p |
22:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
22:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn wins |
22:48.29 | cncfanatics | heh |
22:50.00 | cncfanatics | shld rly buy that book |
22:50.08 | cncfanatics | will buy it in august prolly afteer I get paid |
22:50.27 | batrick | what type of programming resources are you referring to? |
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22:51.42 | cncfanatics | just, anything really |
22:51.48 | cncfanatics | something to kill time while this download finishes |
22:52.06 | batrick | O, then you wouldn't want a book recommendation then :P |
22:52.12 | cncfanatics | not rly nop :p |
22:54.14 | |Jelly| | Honestly, that book is win-tastic. Pages 379 to 927 are reference. |
22:54.33 | |Jelly| | It's like WoWWiki at your finger tips. |
22:54.38 | clad|sleep | heh |
22:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Truth |
22:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | clad can attest to the effort involved with that, I'm sure ;) |
22:54.50 | Kirov | It's wowwiki with out the drama! |
22:54.53 | wereHamster | |Jelly|: can you use google to search it? |
22:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
22:54.54 | clad|sleep | well feel free to help keep it updated :P |
22:55.02 | cog|work | wereHamster: you can use amazon |
22:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: don't need to, truth be told. It's REALLY well put together |
22:55.11 | cog|work | and the index |
22:55.25 | clad|sleep | wereHamster: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awowprogramming.com+UnitHealth&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
22:55.27 | cog|work | (though i can't really say I'm 100% satisfied with the index :| ) |
22:55.29 | clad|sleep | actually yes you can |
22:55.37 | clad|sleep | because the API is available online for free :P |
22:55.44 | Lunessa | wait, there's wowwkik drama? |
22:55.52 | cncfanatics | clad|sleep: its a wiki right ? |
22:55.57 | clad|sleep | yep |
22:55.58 | cog|work | Lunessa: wiki is the hawaiian word for drama |
22:56.10 | clad|sleep | and the API is fully editable |
22:56.13 | Lunessa | mahalo localboy |
22:56.22 | clad|sleep | and the content will end up in the next version of the book.. with credit to the contributors if not more :: |
22:56.29 | cncfanatics | shld remember that, I never add info when it misses content -.- |
22:56.30 | |Jelly| | wereHamster: No, I actually learned how to use a ToC / Index in school. |
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23:17.06 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
23:17.07 | purl | ACTION watches werehamster pull the trigger: Click! |
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23:17.45 | Lunessa | cog|work: WIN |
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23:21.34 | |Jelly| | It's kinda funny ... I almost linked that, Cog. I just wanted to go with ... something being broken -> fixed. :P |
23:21.52 | cog|work | :) |
23:24.36 | alestane | Shirik: If my main function in a C++ program basically goes { return (new Class() )->someMethod(); }, will ~Class be called on that object when main exits? |
23:25.28 | batrick | I don't think so, but i could be wrong |
23:25.29 | wereHamster | no, you don't delete the class |
23:25.46 | wereHamster | IMO |
23:25.59 | Corrodias | try it |
23:26.10 | cncfanatics | going to bed |
23:26.11 | cncfanatics | g'night peeps |
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23:26.16 | Corrodias | in C++, i think the answer is a definite no |
23:26.22 | wereHamster | in C# maybe, but in C++ you need to explicetely delete the objects |
23:26.25 | Corrodias | because you have to manually "delete" things |
23:26.34 | alestane | But one can't just call { return Class().someMethod; }, right? |
23:26.46 | wereHamster | only of someMethod is static |
23:27.01 | alestane | That would be Class::someMethod(). |
23:27.20 | Corrodias | right |
23:31.36 | batrick | alestane: {class myc; return myc.someMethod(); } |
23:31.49 | batrick | its destructor should be called in thatc ase |
23:32.08 | alestane | I'm trying to avoid that. It actually looks like {return Class().method(); } may work. |
23:32.22 | Cairenn | bleeter: ping? |
23:32.56 | Corrodias | i've never seen a call like that, "class myc;" |
23:33.18 | wereHamster | but you've seen 'int i;', right? |
23:33.30 | alestane | I think it would usually be "ClassName myc();" |
23:33.33 | Corrodias | sorry, i misspoke |
23:33.57 | Corrodias | i've never seen someone try to declare a class and then make a call to an undefined function in it |
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23:34.23 | wereHamster | I think it was pretty clear what batrick meant... |
23:34.52 | Corrodias | i'm not a very good programmer, so i missed it, then. sorry. |
23:38.56 | Shirik | alestane: No it will not |
23:39.01 | Shirik | sorry, I was trying to get a nap :) |
23:39.24 | Shirik | If you instantiate an object dynamically, it's up to you to free it |
23:39.26 | alestane | So sorry then. You were just the last person I got solid C/C++ help from. |
23:39.30 | Shirik | it's ok :) |
23:39.42 | Shirik | but your answer is no |
23:40.23 | Shirik | I do believe you can do Class().method() but I've never tried that before |
23:40.28 | Shirik | if you can do that, then ~Class() will be called |
23:40.34 | alestane | My compiler doesn't object to it. |
23:40.56 | alestane | So I'm hopeful. |
23:41.07 | Shirik | though that kinda scares me |
23:41.24 | Shirik | a smart compiler will know not to turn that into a tailcall |
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23:41.34 | Shirik | a dumb compiler, I don't know what it's going to do |
23:41.51 | alestane | I'm using gcc via XCode. |
23:41.52 | Shirik | because ~Class() has to be called before it can return, but it has to be called after method() |
23:41.59 | Shirik | gcc should be intelligent enough not to turn that into a tailcall |
23:42.29 | alestane | Basically, I've always had this issue with classes that represent applications. |
23:43.21 | wereHamster | why not 'Class c = new Class(); RetType ret = c.func(); delete c; return ret;' ? |
23:43.40 | wereHamster | that is what the compiler will have to translate the code to |
23:43.53 | alestane | Either they inherit from a generic Application class, and you instantiate them with a dummy variable, or you have to find some way to make them instances of the Application class, and name the instance after your application. |
23:44.17 | Shirik | not quite wereHamster :) They allocate the class in different places. But yes that would work as well... almost |
23:44.22 | alestane | Mostly, it's a conceptual purity thing. |
23:44.25 | Shirik | it would be Class* and c->func() |
23:44.36 | Shirik | however you run into the issue... what if func() throws an error? |
23:44.45 | wereHamster | for his case where the class is actually allocated doesn't matter |
23:44.47 | Shirik | then you don't free the memory |
23:46.27 | Shirik | you could always do something like |
23:47.00 | Shirik | Class* c = new Class(); try { RetType ret = c->func(); return ret; } catch(...) { delete c; throw; } |
23:47.06 | Shirik | but now you're getting really ugly :) |
23:47.18 | Shirik | er, put a delete c; before that return too |
23:47.40 | Shirik | one thing I really wish C++ had is a finally statement, but you can get around it |
23:48.20 | Shirik | anyway alestane I think we've beaten your question to death :D |
23:48.36 | Shirik | I do think "return Class().func()" is your best choice |
23:49.57 | alestane | "From the point of view of exception handling, a destructor can be called in one of two ways: [1] Normal call: as the result of a normal exit from scope ($10.4.3), a delete ($10.4.5), etc.; [2] Call during exception handling: During stack unwinding ($14.4), the exception-handling mechanism exits a scope containing an object with a destructor." Stroustrup, p.373 |
23:50.32 | Shirik | right, that's where you have the benefit of "return Class().func()" |
23:50.48 | Shirik | during exception handling, in that case, ~Class() will be called. But in the dynamically allocated form, it won't be |
23:52.09 | Shirik | the nice thing about "return Class().func()" is that everything is taken care of for you |
23:52.26 | Shirik | at the cost of losing the tailcall. that, imo, is a small price to pay |
23:53.14 | alestane | Actually, it's going to look like "int main (int argc, char* argv[]) {return Class()(argc, argv); }" but you get the idea. |
23:53.31 | alestane | I usually prefer to inquire about more generic cases. |
23:53.45 | alestane | With an overloaded () operator. |
23:53.59 | Shirik | interesting |
23:54.03 | Shirik | that looks like Lua |
23:54.03 | Shirik | lol |
23:54.18 | alestane | Basically an attempt to turn C++ into Java in that regard. |
23:55.53 | alestane | Turns anything that might otherwise be global variables into instance variables of the application object. |
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