| 00:00.01 | foxlit | ~api CakeOrDeath |
| 00:00.01 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CakeOrDeath |
| 00:00.13 | foxlit | Hah :) |
| 00:00.24 | Tem | foxlit, oh I see |
| 00:00.31 | Tem | I wouldn't worry about that, really |
| 00:00.46 | Tem | travel form, roots and NG, all show "usable" indoors |
| 00:00.56 | foxlit | Which is silly, unfortunately :( |
| 00:01.00 | Tem | foxlit, was it you working on OneRing? |
| 00:01.06 | foxlit | yes |
| 00:01.11 | Tem | I saw the video earlier today |
| 00:01.16 | Tem | looks very cool |
| 00:01.28 | foxlit | :) |
| 00:01.46 | Tem | dunno what I'd use it for, but eye candy doesn't always need a purpose :) |
| 00:02.03 | foxlit | There's always that list at http://spirit-dreams.net/or/ :) |
| 00:02.23 | foxlit | I'd guess food and potions apply to anyone |
| 00:02.59 | Tem | I click those, but if I could get used to them in a ring, that might be nice |
| 00:03.14 | Tem | also, I'd love to get fire/frost ward off my bars |
| 00:03.17 | foxlit | Finished my three main options so far; so I'm just a name, keybinding storage, and a few more demo rings away from an actual release :) |
| 00:03.22 | Tem | buffs, too |
| 00:03.33 | Tem | i can has beta? |
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| 00:03.43 | Tem | my druid would like to play with the shapeshift ring |
| 00:03.45 | foxlit | You can has cake! |
| 00:03.49 | Tem | lie |
| 00:03.53 | foxlit | "Features |
| 00:03.53 | foxlit | Cake. Lots of cake." |
| 00:04.02 | Tem | Delicious cake? |
| 00:04.55 | foxlit | Makes you Very Happy, too. |
| 00:05.01 | kd3 | but if the cake is a lie, does that mean the one ring is a lie too? |
| 00:05.04 | kd3 | vaporware! |
| 00:05.12 | foxlit | Eternal alpha, tbh |
| 00:05.24 | Tem | foxlit, so how does it work? ring appears on keydown and casts on keyup? |
| 00:05.37 | MentalPower | yup |
| 00:05.41 | MentalPower | it uses the pie template |
| 00:05.44 | Tem | I'm glad to see someone finally using Iriel's pie template :) |
| 00:06.24 | foxlit | The pie template is actually pretty clever. |
| 00:06.30 | Tem | of course it is |
| 00:06.32 | Tem | Iriel wrote it |
| 00:06.38 | foxlit | You could actually do keybind-click rather than keybind-keyup to cast |
| 00:06.58 | Tem | so does the entire screen become the menu? |
| 00:07.20 | foxlit | There's an invisible button of obscene size |
| 00:07.38 | Tem | *nod* that's what I figured |
| 00:07.56 | Tem | I really like the finess you put into the animations |
| 00:08.00 | Tem | looks very clean |
| 00:09.31 | foxlit | It's amazing how far sin() can get you, really |
| 00:09.47 | kd3 | lol... digg: "DNS trouble knocks NSA off Internet" |
| 00:10.05 | foxlit | s/NSA off Internet/Internet off NSA/ |
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| 00:12.41 | Shirik | o hai |
| 00:13.35 | lagger | i didnt know you could hook actual frame functions |
| 00:14.00 | MentalPower | Shirik: can has stdio? |
| 00:14.28 | Shirik | no wai |
| 00:14.34 | foxlit | I'm still avoiding localization via use of textures to recognize spells |
| 00:14.49 | foxlit | Did the cool people already move on to proper spell IDs? |
| 00:14.49 | MentalPower | foxlit: spellids? |
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| 00:14.55 | MentalPower | yes |
| 00:14.58 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:21.04 | Xuerian | foxlit: I have to agree again with Tem, the animations are great |
| 00:25.03 | Guillotine | my goodness, its hot today :( |
| 00:25.15 | DARKGuy | sorry |
| 00:25.20 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 00:26.25 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 00:26.33 | Shirik | I wish I was back in Florida :( |
| 00:26.39 | Tem | ~weather kbtr |
| 00:26.44 | foxlit | Gah, I write 40 lines of code, I mess up if/do syntax |
| 00:26.51 | Shirik | if-do? |
| 00:26.57 | foxlit | if (condition) do |
| 00:26.57 | Shirik | is that some crazy conditional loop? |
| 00:27.03 | Tem | then, brah |
| 00:27.03 | foxlit | That's what I had down :( |
| 00:27.05 | Shirik | what language is that? |
| 00:27.10 | Shirik | oh, haha |
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| 00:28.21 | DARKGuy | programming php and lua at the same time causes similar consequences |
| 00:28.28 | Shirik | oh god |
| 00:28.34 | Shirik | the concatenation operator |
| 00:28.45 | DARKGuy | and the ; at the end |
| 00:28.52 | Shirik | what about the ;? |
| 00:29.01 | DARKGuy | php needs it, Lua doesn't |
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| 00:29.06 | Shirik | I always use it :P |
| 00:29.07 | DARKGuy | it's optional xD |
| 00:29.15 | DARKGuy | and brackets! |
| 00:29.27 | foxlit | if () { // damn you, java! } |
| 00:29.36 | Shirik | lua: foo .. bar, php: foo . bar |
| 00:29.44 | DARKGuy | DARKGuy.agree(); foxlit.rep++; |
| 00:30.06 | DARKGuy | haha yeah |
| 00:30.09 | DARKGuy | stupid period |
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| 00:31.09 | foxlit | It's official: mages have too many blue shields |
| 00:31.24 | foxlit | frost ward has a blue icon |
| 00:31.29 | foxlit | mana shield is blue |
| 00:31.35 | foxlit | ice barrier should be blue |
| 00:31.37 | foxlit | ice block is blue |
| 00:31.46 | foxlit | How many shades of blue are there?! |
| 00:33.21 | Tem | loads |
| 00:34.38 | Tem | foxlit, it's still useful, though, because you wouldn't put many of those spells on the same ring |
| 00:35.00 | foxlit | Why not? :) |
| 00:35.11 | foxlit | They're all, logically, "zomgithurtsgivemesomehpabsorbtion" |
| 00:35.43 | Tem | iceblock, mana sheild and ice barrier are spells you need to be able to cast _really_ quickly |
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| 00:36.50 | Tem | and hitting a keybind, positioning your mouse, and then releasing it-- even if I'm a twich gaming master-- is just too much effort for such important spells |
| 00:37.42 | foxlit | That's really what MOUSE4/MOUSE5 are for :) |
| 00:37.49 | foxlit | Then again, you need a mouse with those |
| 00:38.02 | Tem | Mouse4 is autorun for me |
| 00:38.06 | Tem | and mouse5 is COUNTERSPELL |
| 00:38.29 | Tem | I dunno what to put there on my druid |
| 00:38.30 | foxlit | counterspell shares 1 with polymorph |
| 00:38.43 | foxlit | and autorun is [ |
| 00:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fauxscrollframe |
| 00:38.54 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fauxscrollframe is one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. |
| 00:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm what was that one that -- haha, that was it |
| 00:39.20 | ScytheBlade1 | purl is just a bit laggy |
| 00:39.24 | Tem | FSF is evil |
| 00:39.26 | Tem | _very_ evil |
| 00:39.30 | foxlit | FSF works :) |
| 00:39.31 | Shirik | rofl |
| 00:39.38 | Shirik | I totally agree with purl 100% there |
| 00:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ~factinfo it! |
| 00:39.49 | Shirik | ~factinfo fauxscrollframe |
| 00:39.49 | purl | fauxscrollframe -- created by Zootfizzle <i=c64a263b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-83421feb501ba7d0> at Fri Apr 25 23:38:16 2008 (21 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by ScytheBlade1, 55s ago. |
| 00:39.50 | foxlit | "will use again" |
| 00:39.54 | Shirik | ha |
| 00:40.11 | Shirik | Cidan wanted to use it once |
| 00:40.17 | Shirik | I stabbed him until he agreed not to |
| 00:40.38 | Tem | foxlit, if Zoot hates it, expect it to go away and come back awesome |
| 00:40.50 | Tem | for an example of this, see the InterfaceOptionsFrame |
| 00:41.10 | foxlit | I'm sure zoot has more interesting fish to fry |
| 00:41.43 | DARKGuy | this might seem a stupid question, but what's the best 2-h weapon for a warrior? |
| 00:42.11 | DARKGuy | I decided to go 2-h for a while from dual-wield |
| 00:42.44 | Tem | Swords? |
| 00:42.50 | DARKGuy | preferably |
| 00:43.03 | Tem | I'm just guessing that a sword will be the "best" |
| 00:43.21 | DARKGuy | I've seen powerful polearms tho :/ |
| 00:43.30 | DARKGuy | but warrior with polearm = more pikeman to me |
| 00:43.50 | DARKGuy | ... though I could go THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA on my enemies |
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| 00:45.35 | Unregistered | hi |
| 00:45.35 | lagger | are there any other ways a totem can "die" besides UNIT_DIED and SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS (totemic call)? |
| 00:45.50 | lagger | o |
| 00:45.53 | lagger | redrop of the same element |
| 00:46.13 | Shirik | what is totemic call? |
| 00:46.26 | lagger | unsummons all totems |
| 00:46.45 | artence | how do i totally delete my addons? |
| 00:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And gives you some mana back |
| 00:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | artence: you remove them from the Interface\Addons folder |
| 00:46.56 | Shirik | go to your interface/addons folder and delete them? |
| 00:47.03 | artence | that's the problem |
| 00:47.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Vista? |
| 00:47.09 | artence | under the interface/addons |
| 00:47.14 | artence | cosmos doesnt show |
| 00:47.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Vista? |
| 00:47.26 | artence | yea |
| 00:47.39 | Shirik | Users/<your username>/AppData/Locals/VirtualStore/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons |
| 00:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Quick, someone! Spit out the full proper path! I can't remember it! |
| 00:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 00:47.50 | Shirik | after that, uninstall wow |
| 00:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | What Shirik said. Delete them from there. |
| 00:47.52 | artence | and i tried installing other mods, under interface/addons, it wont work |
| 00:47.56 | Shirik | reinstall to a better folder |
| 00:48.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't need to reinstall :P |
| 00:48.15 | ScytheBlade1 | "Learn 2 Blizzard game!" |
| 00:48.25 | Shirik | I wrote up a post on this I believe |
| 00:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | artence: your addons are installed in the place that Shirik said above... remove them from there and you're good to go |
| 00:48.54 | lagger | hm if i wanted to see if a shaman dropped a totem thats not grounding should i look at SPELL_SUMMON and then do a search on the spellname to see if it contains totem and grounding |
| 00:49.06 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 |
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| 00:49.28 | artence | how do you install other addons then? i tried extracting them to interface/addons doesnt work. i got cosmos too |
| 00:50.04 | Shirik | read that post |
| 00:50.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Take a read at Shirik's link there |
| 00:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It should explain what you need to know |
| 00:50.27 | Shirik | 3 ways to fix your problem |
| 00:51.45 | Shirik | I think option 2 is the easiest for you, though I don't like it |
| 00:52.10 | artence | so reinstalling the whole WoW to another directory would help? is it worth the time though? |
| 00:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't have to reinstall |
| 00:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You can just simply move it |
| 00:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll work just as well (though you may have to make new shortcuts to WoW.exe) |
| 00:53.00 | Shirik | that will have the interesting side effect of losing your addons and settings |
| 00:53.09 | Shirik | which you have stated is your desire right now |
| 00:53.19 | Shirik | on my laptop, I installed wow to C:\Games\World of Warcraft |
| 00:53.19 | artence | yea |
| 00:53.35 | artence | i'll work on it. thanks guys |
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| 00:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 00:54.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: that's actually a pretty good post (despite your line about it "catching programmers off guard" made me want to stab you) |
| 00:55.07 | Shirik | I could have used the post to yell at stupid programmers |
| 00:55.08 | foxlit | Oh wow, they changed how iceblock works |
| 00:55.09 | Shirik | but I didn't :) |
| 00:55.16 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: ? |
| 00:55.24 | foxlit | I really haven't played my mage in quite a while :( |
| 00:55.25 | artence | i have a really stupid question |
| 00:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 00:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah they did |
| 00:55.39 | artence | well another |
| 00:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: fair enough :P |
| 00:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | artence: shoot |
| 00:55.50 | artence | what stuff do i move? |
| 00:55.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Just the WoW folder and everything in it. |
| 00:56.16 | artence | open file location, ctrl a. copy, then paste? |
| 00:56.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah |
| 00:56.26 | Shirik | no not copy |
| 00:56.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Do it to the folder |
| 00:56.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Not the contents of the folder |
| 00:56.34 | artence | o yea drag and drop? |
| 00:56.35 | Shirik | cut or just drag the folder |
| 00:56.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, cut, not copy |
| 00:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | You're /moving/ it to another location, not copying it |
| 00:56.55 | artence | yea sorry about that |
| 00:57.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You can make a new folder and move the contents into the new folder |
| 00:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you can just move the folder to a new place |
| 01:01.03 | foxlit | http://spirit-dreams.net/or/video2 |
| 01:01.11 | foxlit | You apparently now fall through the air while ice blocked |
| 01:01.24 | foxlit | Used to stick previously :) |
| 01:01.42 | foxlit | [icon in the middle seems to be out of place] |
| 01:02.01 | Tem | foxlit, that changed a LONG time ago |
| 01:02.05 | Tem | like 2.3ish |
| 01:02.13 | foxlit | 2.3 isn't "long" :) |
| 01:02.21 | foxlit | 1.10 would be "long" :) |
| 01:02.32 | Tem | STAFF OF THE SHADOW FLAME |
| 01:02.33 | Tem | <3 |
| 01:02.39 | Tem | I can't make myself throw that thing away |
| 01:02.57 | Tem | WTB proper masking |
| 01:03.21 | Tem | tried alphaMode add? |
| 01:03.22 | Tem | it might look a bit better |
| 01:03.43 | foxlit | Nah, it's already there |
| 01:03.58 | foxlit | It generally works if the ability icon isn't square, but soem of those are |
| 01:04.09 | dylanm | foxlit: That's very shiny. |
| 01:04.11 | artence | woohoo it worked! |
| 01:04.20 | artence | i love you guys |
| 01:05.34 | foxlit | dylanm: :) |
| 01:06.16 | dylanm | Yours? |
| 01:06.44 | foxlit | my preciousssss! |
| 01:08.01 | Xuerian | foxlit: Awesome |
| 01:08.22 | foxlit | Wait, so you actually like the icon positioning? |
| 01:08.52 | MentalPower | aye, I do |
| 01:08.58 | Xuerian | yes |
| 01:09.01 | MentalPower | it reminds me what I'm actually casting |
| 01:09.21 | MentalPower | if I can't remember the light blue == spellA dark blue == spellB thingo |
| 01:09.22 | Xuerian | It's nice and clean not having it, but it doesn't look bad and it's better than forgetting |
| 01:09.32 | MentalPower | oh, and hurry up and release already :P |
| 01:09.57 | MentalPower | at least for us in here |
| 01:10.30 | Xuerian | Yesplz. |
| 01:10.32 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 01:17.11 | MentalPower | kd3: do you suffer fall damage? |
| 01:17.23 | kd3 | nope |
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| 01:18.53 | bleeter | ahh, them were the days... boredom of 60 doing sfa in IF and having comps to try and get 1 falling dmg |
| 01:19.01 | Shirik | damn, these people on family feud are so stupid |
| 01:19.12 | Shirik | "Name a reason you would take the stairs instead of the elevator" |
| 01:19.16 | Shirik | "Because you're handicapped" |
| 01:19.19 | Shirik | ... wtf |
| 01:19.32 | bleeter | no hands/fingers to push the buttons |
| 01:19.32 | bleeter | doh |
| 01:19.39 | Shirik | that's what the host said lol |
| 01:19.45 | Shirik | "Maybe if you have broken fingers" |
| 01:20.18 | bleeter | there's a UK independant magazine thingie, Private Eye, they have a thing in it called 'Dumb Britain' where they publish completely screwed up answers from TV game shows and the like |
| 01:20.31 | bleeter | will try and find it |
| 01:20.43 | MentalPower | need the exercise |
| 01:21.01 | kd3 | it's broken... fire... |
| 01:21.05 | kd3 | what other answers were given? |
| 01:21.33 | Kaso | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumb_Britain |
| 01:21.39 | bleeter | well... bum. they're not publishing dumb britain online anymore (actually, if they ever did)... http://www.private-eye.co.uk/ |
| 01:21.40 | Kaso | Private eye is awesome |
| 01:21.46 | bleeter | Kaso++ |
| 01:22.11 | bleeter | Kaso: it's the original Onion |
| 01:22.54 | Kaso | that sounds about right |
| 01:23.34 | Kaso | Ian Hislop, the editor is very funny on his own, weekly on have i got news for you, also |
| 01:25.09 | bleeter | There are three states of matter: solid, liquid and what? |
| 01:25.11 | bleeter | Jelly. |
| 01:25.40 | Kaso | aww, thats awesome |
| 01:25.54 | Kaso | i can sorta see the logic in that |
| 01:26.16 | Kaso | I would've complained that theres more likely four than three myself |
| 01:26.23 | Kaso | noone remebers plasma :< |
| 01:26.24 | bleeter | I like the Colemanballs section, too |
| 01:26.31 | bleeter | "De Koch looking for a crack." |
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| 01:28.12 | Shirik | you know |
| 01:28.18 | Shirik | randall really hates ubuntu, doesn't he? |
| 01:28.47 | bleeter | don't blame him |
| 01:28.49 | bleeter | it sucks |
| 01:28.54 | bleeter | like every other OS sucks |
| 01:28.57 | Shirik | I liked it for a while |
| 01:29.03 | Shirik | then I realized I was stupid |
| 01:29.06 | Shirik | and found gentoo |
| 01:29.46 | bleeter | I've yet to find a distro that has an X server setup during install that doesn't assplode 'coz I've got two monitors of different dimensions/frequencies |
| 01:29.47 | Kaso | this handy chart says you pc is vunerable to flattery |
| 01:30.02 | Shirik | oh it is |
| 01:30.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:30.21 | Shirik | 5 seconds ago I check the queue and it has 1 item |
| 01:30.33 | Shirik | I approve that file, go back to the queue, and there's 5 things in it |
| 01:30.45 | Shirik | I blame shadowed |
| 01:30.50 | Shadowed | I blame Shirik |
| 01:30.58 | Shadowed | I haven't added 5 things for a while |
| 01:31.38 | Shirik | yeah, I don't really know why it said 1 looking at the times |
| 01:31.42 | Shirik | it must have been an outdated page |
| 01:33.04 | PsG-1 | x |
| 01:34.17 | Shirik | nope, I was right. 4 of them added by the same user in the last 5 minutes :) |
| 01:34.24 | Shirik | and Shadowed added one an hour ago :P |
| 01:35.06 | Shadowed | yea i'll add one in a few minutes ! |
| 01:37.48 | Shirik | it has virus |
| 01:37.51 | Shirik | ban |
| 01:38.29 | Shirik | Shadowed, do you use a kit to decompile programs? |
| 01:38.34 | Shirik | or just some random tools |
| 01:38.40 | Shadowed | Shirik: decompile like Java programs? |
| 01:38.44 | Shadowed | or? |
| 01:38.48 | Shirik | disassemble, whatever |
| 01:38.58 | Shirik | wait, maybe it wasn't you |
| 01:39.00 | Shadowed | Not really sure in what case you're talking about :p |
| 01:39.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:39.02 | Shadowed | yea |
| 01:39.07 | Shirik | all the S's confuse me >< |
| 01:40.03 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+s] by Shirik |
| 01:40.08 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:40.13 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-s] by Shirik |
| 01:40.24 | Shirik | apparently +s is not a valid usermode |
| 01:40.38 | pastamancer | I use http://hte.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html for disassembly work... it's no ida pro but you can hack the source |
| 01:40.47 | sacarasc | not here, anyway |
| 01:40.47 | Kaso | it is on unrealircd! |
| 01:40.59 | Shirik | I guess freenode has the whole +b % syntax |
| 01:41.10 | pastamancer | guess they use a real ircd here :p |
| 01:43.24 | MentalPower | Shirik: +q == +b % |
| 01:43.30 | Shirik | ah that's it |
| 01:43.34 | Shirik | I knew there was a synonym |
| 01:44.41 | PsG-1 | Anyone know what to check for when I try to use SetPoint and get the error: <unnamed>:SetPoint(): Couldn't find region named '(null)' |
| 01:45.21 | Shirik | uh |
| 01:45.27 | Kaso | hmm, thats an error i havent seen before |
| 01:45.37 | Shirik | look at parameter 2 |
| 01:45.42 | Shirik | make sure it's a frame, I guess |
| 01:45.46 | Shirik | er, a region |
| 01:45.50 | PsG-1 | yeah it is. I'll look more into it |
| 01:45.55 | Kaso | if its not this ^ could you show the code from whence it came. |
| 01:45.58 | PsG-1 | if it's a frame then it's a region |
| 01:46.11 | Shirik | true, but p->q does not mean q->p |
| 01:46.16 | Shirik | it needs to be a region, not a frame |
| 01:47.04 | batrick | hey shirik |
| 01:47.13 | PsG-1 | ergh... nvm. I wasn't giving it a frame after all. Thanks Shirik |
| 01:47.34 | lagger | how does the |4 escape code work |
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| 01:48.24 | Kaso | |4 ? |
| 01:48.42 | artence | hey shrink |
| 01:49.00 | MentalPower | lagger: http://www.wowwiki.com/2.4.2_observed_API_changes_at_release |
| 01:49.30 | Kaso | sweet, ive not seen that before |
| 01:49.34 | MentalPower | its new |
| 01:49.58 | kd3 | just got added in 2.4.2... we first saw it in interface diffs of the globalstrings |
| 01:50.10 | artence | what mod displays your hp and mana, as well as the targets hp and mana % or #'s beside or on their bars? |
| 01:50.17 | Kaso | thats pretty interesting, save a bunch of code i guess |
| 01:50.48 | kd3 | artence, the default UI can do that... just about all of the other unitframe mods I'm aware of have an option to display hp/mana info/% on bars |
| 01:51.12 | artence | the default ui mod displays then ON the bars? |
| 01:51.13 | Kaso | why |4 though? seems an odd choice |
| 01:51.18 | artence | or beside |
| 01:51.19 | Kaso | is there not |1 |2 |3 ? |
| 01:51.21 | kd3 | on |
| 01:51.34 | MentalPower | Kaso: there is |
| 01:51.47 | Kaso | Ive been away from wow too long >.< |
| 01:51.51 | Kaso | what do they do? |
| 01:52.41 | MentalPower | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
| 01:53.39 | Kaso | inteeresting |
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| 02:09.30 | Shirik | so I spent the whole day at work today putting together this complex circuit because my batteries weren't being stable |
| 02:09.42 | Shirik | every time I hit the "connect" button on the computer, the voltage jumped up 2V |
| 02:10.01 | Shirik | after like 8 hours I realized it's unstable because I have the serial cable in backwards :( |
| 02:10.07 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 02:10.13 | MentalPower | I'm sorry Shirik |
| 02:10.14 | kd3 | oops? |
| 02:10.31 | Shirik | I was trying everything |
| 02:10.46 | Shirik | First I thought it was because we were using 3x AA batteries which makes 4.5V, but the chips were expecting 5V |
| 02:10.59 | Shirik | then I thought it was because of the sudden spikes in voltage I needed to add some voltage regulation |
| 02:11.22 | Shirik | so stupid |
| 02:11.40 | bleeter | ~whaleslap Shirik |
| 02:11.41 | purl | ACTION beats Shirik upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:11.49 | Shirik | it's ok, it worked so I'm happy |
| 02:12.03 | bleeter | ah well, that's the main thing.. being happy :) |
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| 02:15.35 | Kaso | luasockets downloading at 7.4MB/s thats crazy |
| 02:19.24 | cogwheel | that's faster than vista copies files.... |
| 02:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That was a low blow ;) |
| 02:19.42 | cogwheel | i speak from experience :( |
| 02:20.01 | cogwheel | and i'll be the first to defend vista in a lot of areas |
| 02:20.07 | Kaso | heh |
| 02:20.07 | cogwheel | just so we're clear :P |
| 02:20.10 | Shirik | it's kinda true |
| 02:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll buy vista |
| 02:20.28 | Kaso | that's downloading from bbc iplayer (for iphones) using my lua script |
| 02:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ... once I get money |
| 02:20.30 | cogwheel | between my two hard drives i usually get between 4 and 6 MB/s |
| 02:20.31 | Shirik | I'll download vista |
| 02:20.39 | Shirik | legally! |
| 02:20.50 | Kaso | downloaded a 230 meg video in like half a min |
| 02:20.53 | Kaso | it was awesome |
| 02:20.56 | Shirik | I actually have two licenses of vista now :/ are they transferrable |
| 02:20.57 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:21.10 | cogwheel | only retail versions afaik |
| 02:21.12 | Kaso | my friend has 10 vista licences, <3 msdnaa |
| 02:21.21 | Shirik | I have a retail copy and msdn |
| 02:21.31 | cogwheel | then you could give your retail copy away i believe |
| 02:21.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont think ill ever use vista on a home computer |
| 02:21.57 | Arrowmaster | ill switch to linux or osx first |
| 02:22.06 | Shirik | do you have a reason? :) |
| 02:22.24 | cogwheel | besides "because it's microsoft" :P |
| 02:22.41 | Shirik | erk, critical battery brb |
| 02:22.45 | Arrowmaster | honestly games are the only thing keeping me on xp |
| 02:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: "because it's linux"? ;) |
| 02:22.57 | Shirik | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:22.57 | purl | executes killall -TERM ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:23.02 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: but then he should've switched already :P |
| 02:23.06 | Shirik | how suitable |
| 02:23.48 | Arrowmaster | the drm crap is one of the reasons i wont switch to vista, even if it never effects me its still there |
| 02:23.54 | cogwheel | though if i had read that wrong it would've reminded me of http://xkcd.com/424/ |
| 02:24.05 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: that's irrational |
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| 02:25.07 | cogwheel | Shirik asked for a /reason/ :P |
| 02:25.13 | Arrowmaster | i like having control of my computer, not it having control over what i do |
| 02:25.14 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: That's one of the reasons I'm avoiding it. They built DRM so deep that it affects sound and network, which disturbs me. I can't play DX10 games anyway, so there's no reason for me to switch to it. |
| 02:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | No, the DRM doesn't touch the network. The "lul DRM slows my network down" came from optimized playback |
| 02:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | You play a video, it slows other things to keep the framerate |
| 02:26.14 | Arrowmaster | what kinda video? |
| 02:26.27 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Ahh, my bad. Well, that does make sense. |
| 02:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Heck if I know. I don't have vista ;) |
| 02:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian: the internet 'media' is horrible ;) |
| 02:26.43 | Arrowmaster | because if you have a decent computer it shouldnt need to |
| 02:26.53 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: The media is horrible, period :P |
| 02:26.56 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: I'd go as far as to say -- |
| 02:26.58 | Xuerian | yeah, that |
| 02:27.04 | Xuerian | Except wowi. |
| 02:27.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless that computer is doing other things! |
| 02:27.08 | Xuerian | Wowi is pure <3 Cairenn. |
| 02:27.09 | cogwheel | and people with decent computers run vista just fine... |
| 02:27.21 | Shirik | my laptop is running vista amzingly |
| 02:27.25 | MentalPower | mainly Full HD video that takes serious muscle to render |
| 02:27.28 | Shirik | and I only paid about $1000 for it |
| 02:27.30 | MentalPower | DRM or not |
| 02:27.33 | Cairenn | Xuerian: ? |
| 02:27.35 | Arrowmaster | like 1080p? |
| 02:27.39 | MentalPower | aye |
| 02:27.42 | Corrodias | the strangest "news" i've ever read: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/05/takashi_murakami_watches_from.html |
| 02:27.42 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Nothing, just appreciation :p |
| 02:27.44 | Arrowmaster | because 720p doesnt take that much |
| 02:27.46 | Cairenn | ah |
| 02:27.48 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 02:27.48 | purl | de rien, Cairenn |
| 02:27.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:28.08 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: aye, 1080p |
| 02:28.21 | Shirik | did purl just respond without being directed? |
| 02:28.26 | Shirik | thanks |
| 02:28.26 | purl | Shirik: de rien |
| 02:28.27 | Cairenn | seems like |
| 02:28.29 | Cairenn | yup |
| 02:28.32 | Cairenn | weird |
| 02:28.39 | Shirik | hi |
| 02:28.40 | Cairenn | Tim won't be pleased when he sees that |
| 02:28.42 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 02:28.44 | Arrowmaster | thanks |
| 02:28.44 | purl | Arrowmaster: sure thing |
| 02:28.45 | Shirik | hello |
| 02:28.46 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 02:28.53 | Shirik | framexml |
| 02:28.56 | Cairenn | someone's gonna catch hell |
| 02:28.59 | ScytheBlade1 | fauxscrollframe |
| 02:29.02 | Shirik | it's only responding to certain things |
| 02:29.02 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 02:29.09 | Corrodias | purl: beer |
| 02:29.09 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 02:29.18 | Cairenn | still, not supposed to be responding to anything unless directed to |
| 02:29.19 | Corrodias | too much beer? |
| 02:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:29.22 | MentalPower | lart me |
| 02:29.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Tricky, but purl is still there! |
| 02:29.50 | Shirik | my quit messages don't look anything like something someone can say :) |
| 02:29.52 | Shirik | for that reason |
| 02:30.00 | Shirik | however someone has a quit message that confuses my client to hell |
| 02:30.06 | Shirik | it thinks it's a netsplit |
| 02:30.53 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if trying to install access07 while i still have access03 installed will cause any problems |
| 02:31.04 | Shirik | I wonder if it will let you |
| 02:31.25 | Arrowmaster | i know some of my schools computers have both |
| 02:32.06 | MentalPower | Corrodias: thats... interesting... |
| 02:32.11 | cogwheel | LUA |
| 02:32.11 | krka | cogwheel: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 02:33.57 | MentalPower | did someone already tell the folks at #infobot about purl's behavior? |
| 02:34.31 | cogwheel | speaking of which... how do you get purl to join a channel? |
| 02:34.52 | MentalPower | cogwheel: you ask TimRiker |
| 02:35.04 | MentalPower | ~seen TimRiker |
| 02:35.13 | purl | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #infobot, 6h 12m 30s ago, saying: 'it's a forker. no reload required.'. |
| 02:35.24 | cogwheel | MentalPower: ty |
| 02:35.51 | MentalPower | np, anytime |
| 02:36.14 | MentalPower | I think tim has a rule where only the ops can request purl to join a channel |
| 02:37.18 | MentalPower | since no one answered my Q about telling #infobot I guess I will |
| 02:39.14 | cogwheel | botsnack |
| 02:42.14 | Shirik | uh |
| 02:42.19 | Shirik | purl can be /invited |
| 02:42.33 | Shirik | well, maybe only after you throw it through him I guess |
| 02:42.53 | Shirik | I only ever had to /invite, but obviously purl's been here before |
| 02:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | purl has to be authed to the channel first |
| 02:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Then and only then will purl respond to invite requests |
| 02:43.24 | cogwheel | how to do that? |
| 02:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ask TimRiker :) |
| 02:43.42 | cogwheel | >< |
| 02:45.59 | MentalPower | yeah, only TimRiker can add purl to a channel |
| 02:46.37 | MentalPower | note that the one you get will prolly not be "purl", but it will still share the same brain (apt/ibot/infobot/jbot) |
| 02:47.50 | Arrowmaster | oh boo it wants me to reboot to finish installing access07 |
| 02:49.00 | MentalPower | means you were using something that access2007 updated |
| 02:49.08 | MentalPower | cause it usually does not ask for a reboot |
| 02:50.15 | Arrowmaster | i had the compat pack installed |
| 02:52.28 | Arrowmaster | seems i can only get vista business from msdnaa if i ever did want to try it |
| 02:52.56 | Shirik | get a real msdn subscription :D |
| 02:53.19 | Arrowmaster | i dont even know what it takes to get one |
| 02:53.21 | MentalPower | Shirik: how much *is* a real msdn sub tho |
| 02:54.02 | Shirik | depending on the subscription |
| 02:54.08 | Shirik | $1200+ |
| 02:54.14 | Shirik | (for new |
| 02:54.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont really have that kinda money to spend on something id rarely ever use |
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| 02:55.26 | Shirik | it's made my development a lot easier, I'm glad I got it |
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| 02:57.33 | Shirik | except from wiring a DE-9 cable backwards, of course |
| 02:57.39 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:00.30 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7388120 |
| 03:00.57 | Arrowmaster | god that font sucks |
| 03:01.08 | Shirik | you know what sucks |
| 03:01.12 | Arrowmaster | nvm it changed when i alt tabed |
| 03:01.12 | Shirik | it's a PDF and I can't view it |
| 03:01.35 | MentalPower | Shirik: http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7388119 |
| 03:01.39 | MentalPower | (word version) |
| 03:01.44 | Shirik | and apparently fricking acrobat reader is 22MB these days |
| 03:02.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah acrobat reader is such a bitch |
| 03:02.16 | Arrowmaster | you close the pdf and it stays open |
| 03:02.27 | Arrowmaster | even close firefox and the damn thing was still running the other day |
| 03:03.20 | Shirik | I have msdn pro |
| 03:04.23 | MentalPower | premium would be nice if I knew they were going to release a new office that year or something |
| 03:04.39 | Shirik | aye |
| 03:04.46 | Arrowmaster | well my msdnaa has stuff that pro doesnt |
| 03:04.58 | Arrowmaster | but i think they probably just have a lot of stuff hidden |
| 03:05.02 | Shirik | really? |
| 03:05.03 | Shirik | like what? |
| 03:05.06 | MentalPower | lie what? |
| 03:05.12 | Shirik | I get office for free so that wasn't a big deal for me |
| 03:05.20 | MentalPower | bah, slower *and* with a typo |
| 03:05.23 | MentalPower | ~fail me |
| 03:05.23 | purl | You suck at everything in life, mentalpower. I hate you because you fail. |
| 03:06.17 | Arrowmaster | theres a lot of stuff on this msdnaa |
| 03:06.26 | Shirik | the biggest things I cared about were operating systems and servers |
| 03:06.37 | Shirik | for testing an application I'm working on |
| 03:06.59 | Shirik | does your msdnaa have windows 3.1 though? |
| 03:07.06 | MentalPower | nop |
| 03:07.12 | Shirik | msdn pro does :P |
| 03:07.13 | MentalPower | msdn pro does? |
| 03:07.17 | MentalPower | WTF? |
| 03:07.20 | Shirik | it even gives you windows 3.2 |
| 03:07.25 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:07.26 | Shirik | which apparently was only released in chinese |
| 03:07.47 | MentalPower | does that even run outside of a VM nowadays? |
| 03:09.02 | Shirik | I hope not |
| 03:09.48 | Arrowmaster | access, expression, infopath, isa server, mappoint, office accounting pro, office communications server, office groove, office project server, office sharepoint server, onenote, project, sql server, virtual pc, visio |
| 03:10.08 | Arrowmaster | no windows before 98 though, but it has msdos 6.0 |
| 03:10.52 | Shirik | 6.0? |
| 03:10.55 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:10.55 | Shirik | isn't that XP? |
| 03:11.05 | Arrowmaster | MS-DOS 6.0 |
| 03:11.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:11.45 | Shirik | yeah I have msdos 6.0 and 6.22 |
| 03:12.05 | Shirik | "no product key is required for this download" |
| 03:12.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:12.14 | Arrowmaster | no word, excel, powerpoint, or frontpage though |
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| 03:14.07 | Shirik | going back to that list |
| 03:14.24 | Shirik | sql server, isa server I know off the top of my head I have |
| 03:14.47 | Shirik | huh, there's a whole section "academic alliance tools" |
| 03:15.56 | Arrowmaster | theres a bunch of stuff i didnt mention |
| 03:16.35 | Shirik | yeah well we couldn't possibly name them all |
| 03:16.51 | MentalPower | Shirik: http://msdn03.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=isu_ece&np1=112 |
| 03:16.52 | Shirik | msdnaa is good though |
| 03:17.03 | MentalPower | no login required to browse |
| 03:17.31 | Arrowmaster | oh that works |
| 03:17.33 | Arrowmaster | http://msdn04.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=sinclaircc_cis&np1=112 |
| 03:17.59 | Shirik | unfortunately my school is not a member of msdnaa |
| 03:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 03:18.24 | Shirik | hell, they're still trying to figure uot what version of vista they want to get |
| 03:18.30 | Shirik | and vista's already on sp1, lol |
| 03:18.33 | Arrowmaster | my school only gives logins to students when they take certain cis classes |
| 03:18.56 | Shirik | oh well the school has a bunch of software titles licenesed in the library for taking |
| 03:18.58 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: I only see 15 things listed in your page, do you see the same for mine? |
| 03:18.59 | Arrowmaster | not sure if they disable them when not in those classes as ive never tried |
| 03:18.59 | Shirik | but not msdnaa |
| 03:19.09 | Arrowmaster | MentalPower: try the dropdown |
| 03:19.28 | Arrowmaster | your page is huge |
| 03:19.36 | MentalPower | ah, granted |
| 03:19.43 | Arrowmaster | i only see like 15 things on mine but its all in the dropdown |
| 03:22.50 | Arrowmaster | i hate how msdnaa gives you windows keys that still need wga activation |
| 03:23.06 | MentalPower | I think msdn does that too |
| 03:23.19 | Shirik | wgn? |
| 03:23.31 | MentalPower | windows genuine advantage |
| 03:23.34 | Arrowmaster | guess they just generate a new one on every request |
| 03:23.48 | MentalPower | and activation in general |
| 03:23.54 | Shirik | yes they do |
| 03:23.58 | Arrowmaster | im still using a VLK key on this computer |
| 03:24.05 | Shirik | on msdn you don't get a key until you request it actually |
| 03:24.39 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: bad Arrowmaster, bad |
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| 03:24.46 | Arrowmaster | pff i had to |
| 03:24.48 | MentalPower | go switch to a real key |
| 03:24.51 | Arrowmaster | it wont let you change keys |
| 03:24.52 | MentalPower | y? |
| 03:24.56 | MentalPower | yes it will |
| 03:24.56 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 03:25.11 | Arrowmaster | it bitchs when you try to do a key switch and go from a VLK to a non VLK |
| 03:25.18 | MentalPower | ah, true dat |
| 03:25.20 | MentalPower | its not vista :) |
| 03:25.38 | Arrowmaster | so im using a VLK that still works with WGA |
| 03:25.48 | MentalPower | y did you use a VLK to begin with anyways |
| 03:26.02 | Arrowmaster | because i didnt want to deal with the activations |
| 03:26.32 | MentalPower | thats not a reason |
| 03:26.38 | MentalPower | it takes all of 300ms to activate |
| 03:26.57 | DARKGuy | piracy checks are absurd anyways. |
| 03:27.09 | Arrowmaster | pff i have 2 other xp computers using msdnaa keys anyway |
| 03:27.38 | MentalPower | DARKGuy: they work tho |
| 03:27.46 | Arrowmaster | no they dont |
| 03:27.54 | DARKGuy | MentalPower, yeah they work but make you pass through more hassle than the pirate itself :P |
| 03:28.18 | Tem|AFK | MentalPower, DRM is a giant failure as it stands right now |
| 03:28.24 | DARKGuy | Ew, DRM. |
| 03:28.26 | Arrowmaster | the VLK key im using has zero downsides over using a non VLK key |
| 03:28.27 | Tem|AFK | The only people it hurts are the honest customers |
| 03:28.30 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: just cause you use a VLK that hasn't been blacklisted yet |
| 03:28.44 | Tem|AFK | a pirate can _always_ get around it someway or somehow |
| 03:28.54 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 03:28.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont think this key will ever be blacklisted |
| 03:28.59 | Tem|AFK | and then you have the whole "Break Once, Broken Everywhere" problem |
| 03:29.31 | Arrowmaster | i can even use the windowsupdate site which even some valid VLK keys cant |
| 03:29.48 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 03:34.39 | Shirik | j9ght all |
| 03:34.42 | Shirik | night too |
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| 03:37.15 | cogwheel | how do i get a host mask? (i think that's what they're called... the things on /who lists like @WoWUIDev/WoWI/...) |
| 03:37.42 | cogwheel | i r c nub |
| 03:39.00 | cogwheel | Industrial: did you ever get those stances worked out? |
| 03:41.41 | Tem|AFK | cogwheel, you talk to Cair about it |
| 03:41.50 | cogwheel | Cairenn: ping |
| 03:42.07 | Tem|AFK | a freenode staff has to do it, but the request has to come from the group contact (which is cair) |
| 03:43.00 | MentalPower | cogwheel: what would you like yours to be, has to be of the form WoWUIDev/*/cogwheel |
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| 03:48.34 | Cairenn | cogwheel: pong |
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| 03:56.23 | cogwheel | Cairenn: sry... got distracted after pinging you >< |
| 03:57.55 | Cairenn | not a problem |
| 03:58.08 | Cairenn | as said before, just tell me what you want and I'll get you hooked up |
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| 04:01.37 | Gnarfoz | is there a way to call a macro from the chat input box? |
| 04:01.49 | Gnarfoz | without putting it on an action bar and clicking/pressing it? |
| 04:03.59 | Seerah | you could put it on a button and then do /click <whatever button> |
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| 06:03.27 | Zurik | hello is anyone around in here? |
| 06:03.36 | Zurik | i need some Addon Help |
| 06:04.22 | Snago | ~asktoask |
| 06:04.22 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:04.51 | Zurik | oh ok.. cool first time in irc |
| 06:05.16 | Snago | then welcome :) |
| 06:07.15 | Guillotine | Zurik: so what do you need? |
| 06:09.38 | MentalPower | ~irc |
| 06:09.39 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 06:11.18 | Zurik | thanks for the warm welcome. |
| 06:11.18 | purl | Zurik: no problem |
| 06:11.28 | Guillotine | wow |
| 06:11.31 | Guillotine | didn't know that one existed |
| 06:11.40 | Zurik | i was putting together a pastebin.com doc.. so i can get my issue out in the open. |
| 06:11.58 | Guillotine | ooo, someone that already knows about pastebin |
| 06:12.25 | Zurik | so I've created an Addon, and the issue i'm having is.. that i created a dropdown. (LOL: Guillotine) and cannot populate it with the datatable. |
| 06:12.31 | Zurik | i get no errors in wow. |
| 06:12.36 | Zurik | http://pastebin.com/d15f23f80 this is my code. |
| 06:12.45 | Zurik | how do i make that a link in IRC? |
| 06:13.22 | Guillotine | our clients do it themselves :) |
| 06:13.25 | Guillotine | or we copy+paste |
| 06:13.36 | Zurik | awh cool. |
| 06:13.47 | Guillotine | So, what are you used to? looks like python style coding to me |
| 06:13.59 | Guillotine | hmm, maybe not |
| 06:14.05 | Zurik | actually this is my first day programming LUA |
| 06:14.05 | krka | Zurik: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 06:14.13 | Guillotine | hahahaha |
| 06:14.16 | Zurik | haha. |
| 06:14.21 | Guillotine | you actually made a script for that? |
| 06:14.30 | Guillotine | krka++ |
| 06:14.35 | Zurik | who is krka? |
| 06:14.37 | cogwheel | yep he did :) |
| 06:14.38 | Zurik | lol |
| 06:14.56 | Zurik | is that a bot? |
| 06:14.58 | Guillotine | Zurik: Yah, was just commenting on your use of _ before variable names |
| 06:14.59 | Guillotine | nah |
| 06:15.00 | Zurik | that said that. |
| 06:15.02 | Guillotine | purl is our bot |
| 06:15.15 | Guillotine | krka just set up a script in his irc client |
| 06:15.23 | Zurik | awh.. nifty |
| 06:15.43 | Zurik | Guill: Na, i hired an addon developer to do my addon for me and he bailed from the project. |
| 06:15.56 | Zurik | so now i'm stuck figuring out how to do it myself. |
| 06:16.07 | Zurik | i'm a coldfusion & web developer. |
| 06:16.14 | Zurik | so lua is new to me. |
| 06:16.48 | Zurik | I followed by his example from some of the other functions and i'm pretty good with JS.. |
| 06:16.50 | Guillotine | So I assume somewhere in your file you are initiating the tables? e.g. WC5={} |
| 06:17.19 | Guillotine | Zurik: doesn't matter at all, I just find it fascinating. Don't see many people use that coding style with Lua |
| 06:17.35 | Zurik | Guill: yeah i am. |
| 06:17.50 | Zurik | Guill: :) |
| 06:18.19 | Zurik | if not WC5 then |
| 06:18.20 | Zurik | WC5 = {} |
| 06:18.20 | Zurik | end |
| 06:18.20 | Zurik | WC5.LFG = {} |
| 06:18.21 | Guillotine | So the addon is actually loading? (Just want to check all the common mistakes before I thoroughly read through the code) |
| 06:18.43 | Zurik | yeah everything works perfectly.. |
| 06:18.57 | Zurik | i'm trying to get this dropdown to work.. no errors.. just no data. |
| 06:19.03 | Guillotine | And you have Lua errors showing? |
| 06:19.09 | Zurik | no errors |
| 06:19.25 | Guillotine | but have you enabled the option to show the errors? |
| 06:19.40 | Guillotine | By default errors are hidden |
| 06:19.49 | Zurik | hrm.. well i have bugsack |
| 06:19.55 | Zurik | that catches errors. |
| 06:19.58 | Guillotine | yup |
| 06:20.01 | Zurik | other than that .. no. |
| 06:20.27 | Guillotine | Nah, if you have bugsack enabled, thats ok |
| 06:20.32 | Zurik | kk. |
| 06:20.54 | Guillotine | What does WC5.LFG._GroupBuilder:Inherit(...) do? |
| 06:21.50 | Zurik | um.. i can paste it in pastebin.com for you, sec. |
| 06:22.02 | Zurik | also.. i've been referencing this page. |
| 06:22.03 | Zurik | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_UIDropDownMenu |
| 06:23.14 | Zurik | http://pastebin.com/d2e92b199 |
| 06:23.38 | Zurik | guill: that is my entire WC5_Debug.lua file. |
| 06:24.48 | Zurik | looks like it does just what the function name says it does.. inherits a parent object and it's properties. |
| 06:25.35 | Guillotine | btw, you can get rid of DeepCloneTable. There is a built-in function now called CopyTable that does the same thing |
| 06:25.50 | Zurik | heh.. cool! |
| 06:26.08 | Zurik | do you know what groupcalendar is? |
| 06:26.18 | Zurik | the Addon for WOW. |
| 06:26.50 | Guillotine | of course :) |
| 06:26.59 | Zurik | The developer of that Addon wrote most of what i have now. |
| 06:27.20 | Zurik | I had hired him. and for whatever reason.. he didn't want to do it anymore.. |
| 06:27.35 | Guillotine | Interesting |
| 06:27.55 | Guillotine | Do you have an xml file or are you using Lua created frames? |
| 06:28.03 | Zurik | lua created frames |
| 06:28.07 | Zurik | actually you might like this. |
| 06:28.11 | Zurik | or might not. |
| 06:28.31 | Zurik | he has a few functions in here. |
| 06:28.51 | Zurik | function WC5.UI._Frame:_New(pParent) |
| 06:28.51 | Zurik | return CreateFrame("FRAME", nil, pParent) |
| 06:28.51 | Zurik | end |
| 06:28.55 | Zurik | like that one. |
| 06:29.02 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 06:29.19 | Guillotine | That just causes an extra function call as well as more ambiguity in the coding |
| 06:29.31 | Zurik | then he has this StackChild function |
| 06:29.42 | Zurik | function WC5.UI._Frame:StackChild(pFrame, pEdge) |
| 06:30.12 | Zurik | so if you look at the pastebin page i sent you.. look for the groupbuild.lua part |
| 06:30.29 | Zurik | you can see.. how i'm creating frames. and then stacking them within each other. |
| 06:30.47 | Zurik | now granted .. i'm a total noob .. but i know how to read code.. no matter what kind it is. |
| 06:31.01 | Zurik | But it's interesting how he put all of it together. |
| 06:31.35 | Zurik | my contribution thus far.. is the WC5_Groupbuilder.lua file & the function from the UIElements for the dropdown. |
| 06:31.51 | Zurik | so you think you could help me? |
| 06:32.11 | Guillotine | The problem is, seeing only some of the code, I don't really know if, perhaps, the function to populate the dropdown is just not called when the dropdown is shown |
| 06:32.42 | Zurik | i can send you the entire code if need be.. I have to get this working. |
| 06:32.51 | Zurik | so i can keep building the addon.. |
| 06:32.58 | Zurik | it's for my website http://wowcorefive.com |
| 06:33.10 | Zurik | it's a crutial part of our project. |
| 06:33.54 | Zurik | and i have a long road a head of me. |
| 06:33.59 | Guillotine | I definitely like your format better than the one I was working on :P |
| 06:34.10 | Zurik | heh |
| 06:34.13 | Guillotine | My suggestion would be to insert a lot of debug text |
| 06:34.14 | Zurik | you mean the site? |
| 06:34.18 | Guillotine | Chances are a function just isn't being called |
| 06:34.21 | Guillotine | For the addon |
| 06:34.30 | Zurik | it is.. i already tested to that part |
| 06:35.09 | Zurik | for example.. by the time this like is executed. |
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| 06:35.11 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.23 | Zurik | the dropdown is already there.. |
| 06:35.36 | Guillotine | Then it should populate it |
| 06:35.56 | Zurik | the data .. get's loaded.. as i did a "Say" with this string as it built the Info. |
| 06:36.14 | Zurik | info.text = string.format(instFormat, data[i].startdate, data[i].shorthand) |
| 06:36.41 | Zurik | so everytime it set that .. i put a "say" into the chat window.. (more or less because i don't know how to send it to the debug window) |
| 06:36.52 | Zurik | and it did it 1 time for each record in the datatable. |
| 06:36.59 | Zurik | but still no data in the dropdown. |
| 06:37.05 | Zurik | hrm.. so frustraiting.! |
| 06:37.52 | Zurik | if you look at the wowwiki document i pasted earlier.. it says something about initializing .. but i could not get that to work at all. |
| 06:38.35 | Zurik | so i am thinking it's some sort of loading order.. or initialization.. or maybe the data is going into a different instance of the same object.. |
| 06:39.00 | Zurik | who effin knows.. all i know is i'm getting angry.. and i'm about to bust a cap in my monitor yo! |
| 06:39.13 | Guillotine | 1) Your dropdown frame is inheriting UIDropDownMenuTemplate (NOT through your inherit function) |
| 06:39.20 | Guillotine | ? |
| 06:40.04 | Zurik | um.. i pleed.. knot knowing what the hell i'm doing. |
| 06:40.09 | Zurik | not* |
| 06:40.24 | Zurik | i got that from the example. |
| 06:40.40 | Zurik | so that's why i was doing it that way.. so i should do it thought the inherit function? |
| 06:40.54 | Guillotine | no |
| 06:41.18 | Zurik | k. but i'm followin ya. |
| 06:41.27 | Guillotine | When you create the frame, use CreateFrame ( http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame ) |
| 06:41.44 | Guillotine | in parameter #4, use "UIDropDownMenuTemplate" |
| 06:42.10 | Zurik | ok.. how is it different? i'll check it out now. |
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| 06:42.50 | Guillotine | BTW, if you're going to be doing this project, I would HIGHLY suggest buying http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810 . Invaluable for pretty much anyone that makes AddOns. And it explains all this :) |
| 06:43.41 | Zurik | yeah, i'll take a look at that too. |
| 06:43.56 | Zurik | unfortunately.. i'm thowin into the lions den on this one. |
| 06:44.10 | Zurik | so i have not had a chance to go thought the proper steps of learing. |
| 06:44.55 | Zurik | Guillotine.. where are you located? Feel like making some extra mula.. ROFL! |
| 06:45.12 | Guillotine | I would, but I am way too busy :( |
| 06:45.39 | Guillotine | But feel free to send the extra mula without any work involved. I can always use free cash |
| 06:45.43 | Guillotine | >.> |
| 06:45.57 | Zurik | lol |
| 06:46.04 | Zurik | mmhmm.. i'm right on that. |
| 06:46.06 | Zurik | :O) |
| 06:46.54 | Sixen | Guillotine, did the book get released yet? |
| 06:47.08 | Fisker- | nah Guillotine |
| 06:47.11 | Fisker- | don't get pwn'd |
| 06:47.22 | Guillotine | Sixen: Yes |
| 06:47.23 | Fisker- | buy http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b |
| 06:47.30 | Sixen | Oh, hm. Alright. |
| 06:47.30 | Fisker- | then you don't get pwn'd :D |
| 06:47.38 | Guillotine | Fisker- :P |
| 06:48.05 | Sixen | How about (http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211006856&sr=1-1)? |
| 06:48.21 | Fisker- | it's older |
| 06:48.22 | Fisker- | also |
| 06:48.36 | Sixen | Hm. Does the new one include the same stuff? |
| 06:48.37 | Zurik | well seriously.. i need help with this tho.. i'm even willing to pay for the help. |
| 06:48.42 | Fisker- | i'd guess |
| 06:48.44 | Sixen | :/ |
| 06:48.47 | Guillotine | The new one is COMPLETELY different and utterly superior |
| 06:48.56 | Fisker- | also |
| 06:48.58 | Sixen | Ah, alright. So, would you recommend buying both, or will the new one suffice? |
| 06:49.04 | Guillotine | Just the new one |
| 06:49.05 | Fisker- | it doesn't reference hacking and getting pwn'd |
| 06:49.08 | Fisker- | i'd get the new one |
| 06:49.10 | Sixen | I know, =P. |
| 06:49.12 | Sixen | Mmmm, alright. |
| 06:49.23 | Iriel | My $0.02 - Just the new one |
| 06:49.34 | Sixen | Mmmm, thanks Iriel. |
| 06:49.50 | Guillotine | the older one is mostly just a list of what addons exist and is somewhat out-of-date. For programming, the new one is the way to go. For using addons, the old one is great |
| 06:50.10 | Sixen | I've got the internet for that, :D. |
| 06:50.22 | Sixen | Well technically, I can use the internet for learning too.. But meh. |
| 06:50.56 | Zurik | Guill: so what will it take to get you to help me get thought this bug.. and then give me some guidence when i get uber stummed? |
| 06:51.12 | Zurik | stumped* |
| 06:51.30 | Guillotine | Zurik: Another 3 hours in the day, unfortunately |
| 06:51.53 | Guillotine | If you come here around 4 hours earlier than you did though, this room is buzzing, and you're bound to find other people able and willing to help |
| 06:51.55 | Zurik | :( |
| 06:52.11 | Guillotine | Its the middle of the night for most people here though |
| 06:52.36 | Zurik | yeah? so is it like that on weekends too? |
| 06:52.44 | Guillotine | Even more so |
| 06:53.00 | Zurik | hrm.. i'll try again tomorrow... btw what book did you write? |
| 06:53.02 | Guillotine | Though you may find people are a bit more silly :P |
| 06:53.07 | Guillotine | I didn't write any book |
| 06:53.14 | Zurik | i'm ok with that.. i like silly. |
| 06:53.33 | Zurik | oh.. lol i thought... cuz Sixen... oh nevermind. |
| 06:53.42 | Zurik | lol |
| 06:54.03 | Guillotine | Nah, I'm just smarter than Sixen, so he asks me stuff >.> <.< |
| 06:54.11 | Zurik | lawlz |
| 06:54.23 | Guillotine | You will find the authors of those books hanging around in here though |
| 06:54.47 | Zurik | well that is uber grovey |
| 06:55.04 | Zurik | i'm going to be in here a lot from this point forward.. that's fo-shizzle. |
| 06:55.16 | Guillotine | Always nice to have more people :) |
| 06:55.23 | Guillotine | Well, not always |
| 06:55.25 | Guillotine | it depends on the person |
| 06:55.31 | Zurik | true. |
| 06:57.09 | Guillotine | Over 80 degrees at midnight = lose :'( |
| 07:00.26 | Zurik | heat stroke FTL. |
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| 07:15.01 | Guillotine | Hey Zyuu :) |
| 07:29.46 | MentalPower | bye Zyuu :) |
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| 07:39.50 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 07:39.56 | cladhaire | anyone enjoy benchmarking web servers? |
| 07:40.24 | nevcairiel | no one does =( |
| 07:40.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 07:40.30 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/87957 |
| 07:40.39 | cladhaire | is that terrible? okay? mediocre? |
| 07:40.55 | Iriel | That's pretty decent |
| 07:54.56 | frop | why horde sucks so hard in AV? WHY? |
| 07:59.25 | batrick | bridge is rediculous iono lol!? |
| 07:59.37 | batrick | I miss the old AV days |
| 08:00.05 | batrick | when I could sit on my mage 40 yards away and nuke horde on the bridge safely from a bunker |
| 08:08.07 | haste | and AVs taking two days to complete |
| 08:10.36 | frop | aye, terrain is a huge advantage for Alliance |
| 08:10.56 | frop | ...and now, there's nomore time to summon bosses in there |
| 08:11.21 | frop | ...so no way to break over the bridge, if alliance play smart |
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| 08:25.36 | batrick | it's amazing how people finally comment on your addon when you stop updating it |
| 08:25.41 | batrick | i suppose that's a good thing in a way |
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| 08:46.38 | frop | anyone know how does RBM handle BigWigs? |
| 08:47.21 | frop | i mean, does RBM's bars "overwrite" BigWigs' bars? |
| 08:47.35 | frop | or you get both? |
| 08:54.03 | Xuerian | Technically neither should interfere with the other |
| 08:54.41 | frop | so i should get both |
| 08:54.43 | Xuerian | no |
| 08:55.02 | frop | isn't RBM intercepting them? |
| 08:55.45 | Xuerian | Generally it's best to go with what your raid is using |
| 08:55.45 | frop | i mean...BigWigs create a bar...RBM intercept and shows it |
| 08:56.16 | frop | my raid is using DBM...but it bugs...so some are asked to run alternative boss mods |
| 08:56.48 | Kyahx | if your using alt-mods becuase DMB bugs, why not just have everoyne switch to something that works? |
| 08:56.50 | Xuerian | Well that's a little different :P. Run bigwigs then |
| 08:56.51 | frop | ...and tbh...never liked dbm so much |
| 08:57.13 | frop | Kyahx don't ask me ^^ |
| 08:57.22 | Kyahx | seems silly :P |
| 08:57.49 | Kyahx | "i really like DBM for no reason, but it dosen't work. You should run something else so I can get spammed by your timers when mine blow up" |
| 08:57.53 | frop | Xuerian it's what i'm doing...but as i've understood it, RBM is intercepting bigwigs' bars |
| 08:58.39 | frop | aye, it get bars from bigwigs and display them, with its skin |
| 08:59.04 | frop | (it's not bad i guess, just asking) |
| 08:59.09 | Xuerian | Well, so long as you don't care well let it diddle itself. Otherwise, just disable it |
| 08:59.27 | Xuerian | From what you're saying it's purely preference |
| 08:59.36 | frop | aye |
| 08:59.50 | frop | but i'm not still sure how it works :) |
| 09:00.13 | frop | it's enought to "filter out" BigWigs bars i guess |
| 09:00.38 | Xuerian | If you don't need DBM running (You're running bigwigs, after all), just disable dbm so there's no confusion |
| 09:00.54 | frop | DBM isn't even installed here :) |
| 09:01.35 | Xuerian | No problem then :p |
| 09:01.41 | frop | i'll check better next MH raid |
| 09:03.49 | frop | with both BigWigs and RBM_MH_module up |
| 09:07.25 | batrick | omfg I hate windows |
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| 09:07.57 | batrick | I start the installer from the CD, it tells me to install inside windows because I already have installed it before using that key |
| 09:08.18 | batrick | then I try to install from my old windows installation, and it won't let me change the partitions so I can install it |
| 09:08.22 | batrick | FUCKING AWESOME |
| 09:08.46 | batrick | o forgot, it told me to boot from CD to change the partitions |
| 09:08.48 | batrick | lol!?!?! |
| 09:09.17 | frop | :o |
| 09:09.21 | frop | XP home? |
| 09:09.38 | frop | btw, are wowace forum and Jira account dfferent? |
| 09:10.14 | Xuerian | ... |
| 09:10.19 | batrick | no vista "premium" |
| 09:10.22 | Xuerian | Why are you using a legit disk? |
| 09:10.30 | batrick | because I have one? |
| 09:10.36 | Xuerian | If you own a copy of xp, just download a damn slipstreamed vlk and use that |
| 09:10.53 | Xuerian | Would make life easier |
| 09:10.56 | batrick | I don't use cracked operating systems |
| 09:11.09 | Xuerian | Isn't cracked, technically. |
| 09:11.58 | batrick | I don't even know if I can install it now |
| 09:12.24 | Xuerian | Well, I'd tell you what you could do, but you don't use cracked OSes, so :P |
| 09:12.29 | batrick | because, I'll have to reformat in a real os (linux), but the installer for winblows won't let me format the drive for ntfs |
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| 09:13.08 | Xuerian | I'm lost, what are you trying to do? If it already has XP on it, what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 09:13.19 | batrick | v i s t a |
| 09:13.36 | batrick | i'm reinstalling cuz this has all sorts of crap on it |
| 09:13.38 | Xuerian | Oh, the "no vista "premium"" comment makes more sense now |
| 09:13.42 | batrick | probably a couple nice viruses to boot |
| 09:13.48 | Xuerian | "has all sorts of crap on it" qft |
| 09:14.57 | batrick | I don't even know what to do now |
| 09:15.00 | batrick | this is lame |
| 09:17.35 | Xuerian | Install linux and call it a day? |
| 09:17.57 | frop | batrick, boot from a XP CD |
| 09:18.07 | frop | ...format the disk... |
| 09:18.21 | frop | ...boot from your "Vista Premium (Crap)" CD |
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| 09:21.38 | bleetah | big axe |
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| 09:36.07 | batrick | frop: im thinking i'll try shrinking the partition in linux |
| 09:36.18 | batrick | Xuerian: I'm using linux, i need windows for work |
| 09:37.17 | Xuerian | batbot: Ah |
| 09:41.02 | _rane | batbot |
| 09:41.13 | _rane | evil, tabcomplete |
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| 10:26.59 | zespri | which bit library wow lua uses? bitlib or luabit? or something else? |
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| 11:49.21 | Nom | Ugh. I think my new server is fubar... not sure what's causing it, but I can't get Linux install going |
| 11:49.32 | Nom | It's kernel panicking on boot ! |
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| 12:16.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Firefox 3 RC1 is out - http://www.neowin.net/news/software/08/05/17/mozilla-firefox-30-rc1 |
| 12:21.18 | Nom | oh thank god |
| 12:21.21 | Nom | my ram is dead |
| 12:21.29 | Nom | well one of the sticks is |
| 12:22.20 | nevcairiel | you thank god for that? |
| 12:23.00 | Gnarfoz | you thank The Lord for whatever he grants you, infidel! |
| 12:23.07 | Gnarfoz | blahblah! |
| 12:28.03 | Nom | Well |
| 12:28.05 | Nom | At least |
| 12:28.07 | Nom | 1. I know what it is |
| 12:28.17 | Nom | 2. The parts are 4 hours old, so I can get them replaced under warranty :P |
| 12:28.38 | Nom | I've been pulling my hair out for the last couple of hours trying to get Ubuntu 8.04 Server to install |
| 12:28.44 | Nom | Kept kernel panicking and I couldn't work out why |
| 12:28.55 | foxlit | How do you actuall know the ram stick is dead? :) |
| 12:29.11 | Nom | I put it in on it's own, ran a memory test using the tool on the Ubuntu setup CD |
| 12:29.18 | Nom | upon beginning the test, my computer reset itself |
| 12:29.31 | Nom | I repeated the same thing with the second stick of memory, and it progressed through all the test |
| 12:29.32 | Nom | :P |
| 12:29.56 | foxlit | Had a similar problem when I built my current PC |
| 12:30.22 | nevcairiel | memtest86 wins for debugging ram |
| 12:30.33 | foxlit | memtest86: "the results were inconclusive" |
| 12:30.41 | Nom | This is corsair memory too |
| 12:30.47 | foxlit | So was mine :) |
| 12:30.56 | foxlit | I mean, it can crash, or it can pass, or it can freeze things, but you're never too sure what's actually at fault |
| 12:31.17 | nevcairiel | well if you have a second one of the same brand, and it works flawlessly |
| 12:31.21 | nevcairiel | i would blame the RAM |
| 12:31.28 | Nom | well |
| 12:31.36 | Nom | since the two sticks of memory are identical |
| 12:31.45 | Nom | one progressed through allt he memory tests and the other reset the computer |
| 12:31.55 | Nom | it's a pretty safe bet that there's a DOA stick :P |
| 12:32.02 | foxlit | testing at as good stick vs bad stick, or good+bad stick vs good stick? |
| 12:32.19 | foxlit | The problem was that motherboard firmware couldn't properly identify the sticks, used stored JEDEC timings and overall failed - adjust BIOS settings to match the stick specification, worked flawlessly since |
| 12:32.46 | nevcairiel | shouldnt the stick provide a standard config in the SPD ? |
| 12:34.09 | foxlit | It provides some config through SPD, but not the one you'd expect |
| 12:34.23 | nevcairiel | generally its a slow but safe config |
| 12:34.40 | nevcairiel | i have to increase the RAM voltage if i want the performance settings for my corsair |
| 12:34.59 | foxlit | ^ same |
| 12:35.04 | nevcairiel | the SPD cannot set the voltage |
| 12:35.05 | foxlit | Ends up crashing randomly if you don't. |
| 12:35.09 | nevcairiel | so it uses a slow setting |
| 12:35.13 | nevcairiel | that doesnt require it .) |
| 12:35.18 | foxlit | (and still crashes randomly, for me) |
| 12:35.40 | nevcairiel | Hm dunno, havent had any errors for ever |
| 12:35.48 | foxlit | That is, slow+standard voltage == instability |
| 12:35.54 | foxlit | fast+increased voltage == works |
| 12:36.12 | nevcairiel | who knows, i think i bumped the config before installing anything on it |
| 12:36.40 | nevcairiel | I had to get a different motherboard to make it work, though |
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| 12:37.00 | nevcairiel | the one i had had a sucky bios that didnt support performance rams |
| 12:37.18 | nevcairiel | had to get a old 256mb stick to make it work and try other bios updates |
| 12:37.22 | nevcairiel | but decided to replace it .P |
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| 13:00.09 | foxlit | I'm still looking for a way to hide the game cursor -- the annoying part is that I seem to have erased my own code dealing with that :( |
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| 13:05.59 | Gilial | 'Prolly not much help but.. I think it'd be possible to override the textures used for the mouse with transparent ones in your own MPQs or something of that nature. Of course, then you couldn't toggle it..Something of that nature is all I can think of, sorry. |
| 13:08.20 | foxlit | There's SetCursor(), so you can actually change the cursor without messing with MPQs |
| 13:09.42 | Gilial | Oh hey -- You found it, good! |
| 13:10.11 | foxlit | I'm just not sure if that's what I should be looking for |
| 13:12.00 | foxlit | Ah, I see |
| 13:12.07 | foxlit | Time to update the wiki page a bit |
| 13:14.28 | Gilial | It looks like you'd have to supply your own image for it...Yey -- Updates! Moar to learn. Mind mentioning when you do? Curious to see what's different. |
| 13:19.27 | Snago | Anyone have a suggestion for a good group roll frame replacement? |
| 13:20.08 | Cide | why do you have to replace it? |
| 13:20.35 | nevcairiel | why do you replace anything in the stock UI? |
| 13:20.49 | Cide | exactly |
| 13:21.06 | foxlit | Because that particular part isn't very good |
| 13:21.15 | foxlit | While it functions, there is probably a better way to handle it |
| 13:21.32 | foxlit | (in particular, there's no reason for the arbitrary 4-items limit on the number of rolls displayed at the same time) |
| 13:21.40 | Cide | I asked him, not you |
| 13:21.48 | foxlit | I replied to nev, not you. |
| 13:21.48 | Cide | if he wants a replacement, he should probably state whta he wants changed |
| 13:22.11 | nevcairiel | foxlit: my question was more ironical :P |
| 13:22.35 | Snago | It looks pretty crap and it's in a bad place. And what foxlit said, 4 item limit sucks |
| 13:22.47 | Cide | you wouldn't have said that had he not mentioned it |
| 13:22.57 | foxlit | nev: foiled by irony! :( |
| 13:23.10 | Cide | and 4 item limit isn't exactly game breaking |
| 13:23.39 | Snago | Cide: If you don't know any it's ok |
| 13:23.51 | nevcairiel | did you try XLoot? |
| 13:24.13 | nevcairiel | thats the only one i know :) |
| 13:24.16 | nevcairiel | i use the defaults |
| 13:24.24 | foxlit | Same, really. |
| 13:24.26 | nevcairiel | XLootGroup in particular |
| 13:25.17 | foxlit | wonder if the looting api lends itself to some tracking |
| 13:25.29 | foxlit | Wouldn't mind seeing who/how many selected N/G without it cluttering the chat |
| 13:25.53 | nevcairiel | probably only with event tracking of your own |
| 13:26.09 | nevcairiel | (and detailed loot enabled <.<) |
| 13:26.57 | foxlit | I'd have to look up those events - they could get away with just passing an item link, player name, and N/G selection |
| 13:27.05 | foxlit | In which case you're out of luck tracking multiple similar items |
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| 13:29.59 | nevcairiel | shouldnt the item links have different unique-ids in them? |
| 13:30.29 | foxlit | I don't know. |
| 13:31.23 | nevcairiel | wowwiki doesnt really hold much info about the unique id either, just saying some uncertain stuff :P |
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| 13:41.32 | tre | hello |
| 13:42.19 | tre | quick question, there was an old mod my guild alliance used to easily identify it's members |
| 13:42.45 | tre | on mouseover it'd pop their guild logo over their heads (like the lucky charms) |
| 13:42.58 | tre | am i correct that, that is no longer allowed to be done? |
| 13:46.32 | foxlit | You can probably still do it |
| 13:46.43 | foxlit | IT really depends on how exactly you'd display their guild logo over their head |
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| 13:53.24 | Nom | fun & games... my raid 5 array is building |
| 13:53.32 | Nom | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.57 | Nom | and i almost got vmware going *grin* |
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| 14:15.58 | Nom | lol vmware rox0rs |
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| 14:42.43 | dvampire | so does any one know if the new gatherer is coming out soon? |
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| 14:43.38 | dvampire | or was any one geting an error with the current gathere |
| 14:43.42 | dvampire | gatherer? |
| 14:45.34 | dvampire | i guess this was a waist of time |
| 14:51.51 | Snago | lol, he was impatient |
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| 14:55.07 | Gngsk | also, his waist was huge |
| 14:55.46 | nevcairiel | also, the word is waste |
| 14:57.17 | Gngsk | obesity |
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| 15:08.32 | Cide | anyone got any movie tips? something light-hearted |
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| 15:12.26 | Kalroth | "The Bucket List" is ok |
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| 15:12.54 | Kalroth | Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson, it's not a real comedy though, but still watchable |
| 15:14.08 | Cide | I'll check it out, thanks |
| 15:14.12 | Cide | any other tips? |
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| 15:14.45 | Kalroth | not in the comedy genre |
| 15:15.07 | Cide | doesn't have to be comedy as long as it's light-hearted :) |
| 15:15.31 | Kalroth | oh |
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| 15:15.59 | Kalroth | I watched http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0865556/ last night, it's actually pretty decent |
| 15:16.10 | Kalroth | Considering it's Jet Li and Jackie Chan in the same movie :p |
| 15:17.58 | Cide | haha :P |
| 15:18.46 | Kalroth | http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0200465/ as well |
| 15:19.38 | Kalroth | I assume you're mainly interested in movies where uhhh, internet backups are available. Rather than movies going in the cinema at the moment :) |
| 15:22.16 | Cide | either works to be honest |
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| 15:44.13 | DARKGuy | morning :) |
| 15:48.49 | Apoco | its afternoon! |
| 15:48.52 | Apoco | nvm |
| 15:48.53 | Apoco | no its not |
| 15:48.54 | Apoco | :( |
| 15:51.09 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 15:54.39 | Gngsk | ~ugt |
| 15:54.40 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 16:12.26 | |pez| | Happy Norwayday! |
| 16:12.40 | Shirik | the what now? |
| 16:12.53 | |pez| | 17th of May. |
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| 16:12.57 | |pez| | National day of Norway |
| 16:13.10 | |pez| | so... Norwayday :D |
| 16:14.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:14.03 | nevcairiel | nice name |
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| 16:15.49 | |pez| | Bah, I hate racists. -__-' They're making an uproar that a newspaper photographes a black person in our national clothing. |
| 16:16.21 | |pez| | photographed* |
| 16:16.32 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 16:16.35 | nevcairiel | that bad in norway? |
| 16:16.52 | |pez| | ocasionally. |
| 16:17.06 | |pez| | We're protective of our nationalclothing and our flag. |
| 16:17.35 | nevcairiel | We dont even have any nationalclothing to speak of |
| 16:18.03 | |pez| | I understand the point where we don't really want any other flag than the Norwegian to be waved around today... It's Norwayday after all. But to deny a black norwegian citizen wearing a bunad? that's just stupid. |
| 16:19.06 | |pez| | http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2008/05/16/535397.html |
| 16:19.11 | |pez| | article in question. |
| 16:19.15 | nevcairiel | whats the occasion of that norway-day? |
| 16:19.32 | |pez| | independance day like thing. |
| 16:19.39 | |pez| | Oh, wait. |
| 16:19.40 | |pez| | No. |
| 16:21.01 | nevcairiel | googling helps |
| 16:21.08 | |pez| | It's the day of Norways constitution. |
| 16:21.13 | |pez| | constitutional day. |
| 16:21.27 | |pez| | Signed facncy papers saying "yay, norway is free" |
| 16:21.45 | nevcairiel | its kinda like independence day |
| 16:21.53 | |pez| | yeah. |
| 16:22.10 | |pez| | And I completely understand the flag thing. Since the other flags aren't a part of Norway. :P |
| 16:22.20 | DARKGuy | I heard there was a recent change with the money strings and globals. Does anybody have any reference on that? |
| 16:23.02 | |pez| | But I don't see the harm in a dark skinned norwegian citizen wearing a bunad. -__- |
| 16:23.34 | |pez| | bunad is the name of the national clothing btw. |
| 16:24.37 | nevcairiel | figured as much ;) |
| 16:24.52 | |pez| | smart man ;) |
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| 16:26.14 | Shirik | >>> 0.56418958354775628694807945156077 - math.sqrt(2*math.pi) |
| 16:26.25 | Cide | Shirik: -1.9424386910832 |
| 16:26.27 | Shirik | >>> 0.56418958354775628694807945156077 - 1/math.sqrt(2*math.pi) |
| 16:26.27 | Cide | Shirik: 0.16524730314632 |
| 16:27.12 | Shirik | >>> 0.56418958354775628694807945156077 - 1/math.sqrt(math.pi) |
| 16:27.12 | Cide | Shirik: 0 |
| 16:29.44 | Shirik | ok, I haven't watched these kids morning shows in forever |
| 16:29.50 | Shirik | wtf is "battlizers" |
| 16:30.03 | Shirik | seems like power rangers with shoulder guards on |
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| 16:58.00 | Snago | Dinosaur comics on racism: http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001223.html |
| 16:59.26 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 17:05.28 | Shirik | ..... |
| 17:05.39 | Shirik | apparently firefox automatically downloads updates now without even telling you |
| 17:05.52 | nevcairiel | you can configure that |
| 17:05.55 | nevcairiel | by default it does, yes |
| 17:06.04 | nevcairiel | it tells you that it wants to install the update |
| 17:06.09 | Shirik | beautiful |
| 17:06.12 | wereHamster | only downloads or also installs? |
| 17:06.25 | Shirik | it only downloads, but that's the thing I have a problem with! |
| 17:06.33 | wereHamster | why? |
| 17:06.40 | nevcairiel | the trunk builds auto-download and auto-install updated |
| 17:06.46 | nevcairiel | well it updates daily .. so :P |
| 17:06.50 | Shirik | because I have a monthly limit on bandwidth before I start paying for megabyte |
| 17:07.08 | nevcairiel | so change the config |
| 17:07.14 | nevcairiel | Advanced -> Update |
| 17:07.40 | nevcairiel | (in 3.0 its there anyway, dunno about 2.0) |
| 17:08.51 | wereHamster | Shirik: most people don't. And I understand that mozilla won't disable the auto-updates only because a minority doesn't want it. |
| 17:09.06 | Shirik | I understand that too |
| 17:09.08 | nevcairiel | its configurable, so suck it up bitch :P |
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| 18:26.49 | Zurik | hello everyone. |
| 18:27.46 | Zurik | I have some WoW UI questions.. and i need some help with this addon that i'm making for my website. |
| 18:27.51 | Zurik | the website is http://wowcorefive.com |
| 18:30.06 | Cide | you don't make addons for websites |
| 18:30.16 | Duman | heh |
| 18:30.29 | Cide | Zurik: so what's the question? |
| 18:30.31 | Cide | ~asktoask |
| 18:30.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:31.02 | Cide | also |
| 18:31.09 | Cide | please please please please |
| 18:31.21 | Cide | go for a regular design and not the whole gradient thing |
| 18:31.52 | Zurik | sorry dog went haywire.. and phone was ringing |
| 18:32.01 | Zurik | i didn't get a chance to type the entire question |
| 18:32.23 | Zurik | anyways.. i'm having an issue with populating a dropdown with data. |
| 18:32.43 | Zurik | i see the dropdown .. and i don't get any errors.. just no data is populating into the data table. |
| 18:33.00 | Cide | ugh |
| 18:33.15 | Zurik | wait.. not into the data table.. i mean from the datatable. |
| 18:33.28 | Cide | wowwiki should have some tutorials on it |
| 18:33.30 | Zurik | don't worry Cide i have pastebin.com to show you my issue. |
| 18:33.40 | Zurik | i am using the tutorials.. it's not working. |
| 18:33.57 | Zurik | give me a sec.. i'll have full code for you to view.. if you don't mind taking a look at it. |
| 18:34.07 | Cide | I may or may not |
| 18:34.49 | Cide | depending on how good looking it is |
| 18:34.49 | Zurik | lol.. k. |
| 18:34.49 | Cide | and also I haven't dealt with dropdowns in forever |
| 18:34.49 | Cide | I have a wrapper for it |
| 18:38.56 | Zurik | yeah that's kinda what i'm making .. is a wrapper for it.. so that i can reuse the component over and over. |
| 18:39.04 | Zurik | few more mins.. and i'll have paste bin up. |
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| 18:43.28 | Zurik | +Cide: are you still there? http://pastebin.com/d7fb6f79e |
| 18:43.48 | Cide | sure am |
| 18:43.52 | Zurik | that is my code chuncks to let you see what i've been doing. |
| 18:44.10 | Zurik | let me know if you need to see anything else to help you help me. |
| 18:44.10 | Cide | but that's not much from the default ui |
| 18:44.19 | Cide | it's almost all your own code/wrappers |
| 18:44.48 | Zurik | well this is the situation i'm in.. I hired a developer.. the guy that created GroupCalendar. |
| 18:45.04 | Zurik | he wrote most of the framework for the Addon.. then left my project .. |
| 18:45.22 | Zurik | i don't know lua or how to addon develop.. but i'm well versed programmer |
| 18:45.34 | Zurik | in various other languages.. and i can read code pretty easy. |
| 18:45.40 | Zurik | so i understand what's happening. |
| 18:45.56 | Zurik | but i didn't want to start all over .. so i've been working with what he has got. |
| 18:46.07 | Zurik | I've been lua programming all of 3 days. |
| 18:46.27 | Zurik | but i know how to read the API and i understand the syntax |
| 18:47.00 | Zurik | but what i don't know.. is why the data is not populating when i call the _loadData function. |
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| 18:47.42 | Sumg | hey can someone help me out? |
| 18:47.51 | Cide | Zurik: well, it's hard to tell what's going on |
| 18:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 18:47.54 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:48.26 | Zurik | well what do you need.. to know? |
| 18:48.30 | Sumg | ok, well when i click install on cosmos it says there is an unhandled exception |
| 18:48.45 | Sumg | and then it won't install |
| 18:48.47 | Cide | sounds like you're installing a program, not an addon |
| 18:48.53 | Zurik | all that's going on.. is that I've called a function |
| 18:48.53 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.53 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.53 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.06 | Zurik | that is suposed to create the dropdown. |
| 18:49.14 | Cide | sure, but who knows what's going on in there? |
| 18:49.27 | Zurik | I gave you that code. |
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| 18:49.52 | Zurik | it's line 50 - 91 of the pastebin. |
| 18:50.44 | Sumg | um has anyone answered my problem yet? |
| 18:50.47 | Zurik | I mean do you want to see the WC5.New() function as well? |
| 18:51.14 | Cide | I haven't had a chance to look at it yet |
| 18:51.58 | Sumg | hmm well i am at the cosmos window where it says install and manage addons and stuff but when i hit install it does it for about 2 seconds then it says there has been an unhandlled exception |
| 18:52.33 | Sumg | and also it said before that i don't have a DisableAddOn file so it would create one |
| 18:52.43 | Lukian | Sumg, my suggestion is not to use cosmos :o |
| 18:52.45 | Zurik | Look Cide .. i'm willing to pay for help.. I have to get these bugs worked out.. if you can't help or don't want to spend the time to look at it.. please don't waiste mine either. |
| 18:52.59 | Cide | you're in a help channel |
| 18:53.02 | Cide | I nowhere said I was going to help you |
| 18:53.12 | Sumg | Ya but then id have to go and download all the addons one by one |
| 18:53.13 | Zurik | oh.. lol... sorry. |
| 18:53.34 | Zurik | i thought you said you'd take a look at it if the code was good. |
| 18:53.52 | Zurik | so that's why i went thought the trouble of making the paste bin for you. |
| 18:53.59 | Zurik | err.. pastebin. |
| 18:54.03 | Cide | /shrug |
| 18:54.11 | Sumg | is there any add ons thatwork like the thottbot website and tell you everything about an intem? |
| 18:54.13 | Cide | I can take a look at it, but not right now |
| 18:54.18 | Cide | maybe someone else can help |
| 18:54.19 | Zurik | ok. |
| 18:54.28 | Sumg | *item |
| 18:54.31 | mikma | Sumg: yes |
| 18:54.42 | Sumg | whats would it be called exactly? |
| 18:54.53 | mikma | FireFox |
| 18:54.58 | dylanm | Hah. |
| 18:55.01 | Sumg | ... |
| 18:55.13 | mikma | thank you, thank you. you've been a great audience. |
| 18:55.13 | purl | mikma: no worries |
| 18:55.25 | Zurik | LF WOW Interface lua Programmer, will pay for help.. |
| 18:55.42 | mikma | lulz |
| 18:55.48 | mikma | wowuitrade |
| 18:56.02 | Zurik | there is a channel for it? |
| 18:56.11 | mikma | yeah, #gaysex |
| 18:56.21 | Zurik | roooode! |
| 18:56.29 | Zurik | lol |
| 18:56.34 | Zurik | good one tho. |
| 18:56.51 | Lukian | haha! |
| 18:57.05 | Lukian | Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle offers me more dps than Sunfury XD |
| 18:57.18 | Lukian | and wolfslayer is only 5dps off the badge xbow.. |
| 18:57.41 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:59.03 | Shirik | eh, as much as I know you want someone to help you |
| 18:59.19 | Cairenn | Zurik: you've said it once, spamming the channel is only going to annoy people |
| 18:59.23 | Shirik | please don't spam it here, especially twice when nobody's joined in between |
| 18:59.28 | Zurik | ok.. i'm sorry. |
| 18:59.35 | Shirik | hi Cairenn |
| 18:59.36 | mikma | wewt! thanks ops! |
| 18:59.39 | Cairenn | hi Shirik |
| 18:59.43 | mikma | was about to beg that but you two rule |
| 19:00.03 | Zurik | Shirik: I won't do it again. |
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| 19:01.15 | Shawnc | hi |
| 19:01.15 | purl | privet |
| 19:01.22 | Shirik | On a somewhat related note, this is an open-source community. While I'm sure there are people that would take your offer, most I think would prefer not to be paid; on the same note they'd like to see you do it yourself (and if you're willing to do that, then they're more than willing to help you along the way) |
| 19:01.42 | Shirik | most open communities help those that help themselves :) |
| 19:01.58 | Cairenn | what he said |
| 19:05.09 | Xuerian | We're a extremely odd bunch |
| 19:05.09 | Zurik | i'm willing to do it myself.. but i need help a.s.a.p |
| 19:05.34 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Haha, purl still spouting randomness? |
| 19:05.39 | Zurik | I am not asking for anyone to write the code for me.. i already tried that.. and now i'm in the situation i'm in. |
| 19:05.43 | Xuerian | Zurik: Then why not ask for help on what you need help with? |
| 19:06.01 | Cairenn | Xuerian: yeah |
| 19:06.03 | nevcairiel | purl is reacting on some random words without being adressed lately :P |
| 19:06.06 | nevcairiel | like |
| 19:06.08 | nevcairiel | thanks! |
| 19:06.08 | purl | nevcairiel: my pleasure |
| 19:06.19 | Zurik | i did.. heh.. but i can do it again. |
| 19:06.19 | Shirik | lart |
| 19:06.20 | Xuerian | hi |
| 19:06.22 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 19:06.27 | Xuerian | she doesn't love me :( |
| 19:06.29 | Zurik | I need help getting a dropdown to populate with data. |
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| 19:06.36 | nevcairiel | hi |
| 19:06.38 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:06.44 | Zurik | I am not getting any lua errors.. just no data in my dropdown. |
| 19:06.46 | nevcairiel | oh well, worth a try :P |
| 19:06.48 | Shirik | must be some kind of timer |
| 19:06.53 | Xuerian | Zurik: pastey your code |
| 19:06.53 | Zurik | the data comes from my datatable. |
| 19:07.11 | Zurik | here is my pastebin.. for the code. http://pastebin.com/d7fb6f79e |
| 19:07.20 | Snago | ~lart purl |
| 19:07.20 | purl | blasts snago to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 19:07.31 | Snago | >.< |
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| 19:07.46 | nevcairiel | no larting purl, hehe |
| 19:07.50 | Zurik | Xuerian: let me know if you have any questions. |
| 19:08.20 | Xuerian | Zurik: You have a interesting lua syntax |
| 19:08.35 | Xuerian | Zurik: I just woke up, I was just getting you to pastey so you'd be more likely to get help :p |
| 19:08.56 | Zurik | heh.. thx. |
| 19:09.08 | Zurik | i've been trying to get some help since last night. |
| 19:09.51 | Zurik | i've been following the examples from the guy that created groupcalendar. |
| 19:10.10 | Zurik | i like it tho.. it is easy to read.. and easy to follow. |
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| 19:10.32 | Cairenn | Zurik: it's also an international channel, with international time zones & dates - the times when you are more or less likely to get help can vary widely |
| 19:10.46 | Zurik | only took me 3 days.. and i've already got the new tab in my app working.. with some elements. |
| 19:10.53 | Kessian | what is the addon i need for helping me with quests |
| 19:11.12 | Shirik | lightheaded? |
| 19:11.17 | Xuerian | Zurik: Have you tried dropping a bunch of debugging in here and there? Make a debugprint() function or something that will print to the chatframe. |
| 19:11.24 | Xuerian | Kessian: Lightheaded or Questhelper |
| 19:11.27 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
| 19:11.28 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 19:11.28 | Zurik | yep.. |
| 19:11.39 | Kessian | Questhelper |
| 19:11.43 | Xuerian | That too |
| 19:11.52 | Kessian | how do i do it tho |
| 19:11.56 | Xuerian | uh |
| 19:11.57 | Xuerian | download it |
| 19:12.03 | Zurik | this is what i've come up with so far.. no errors.. and on the _loadData() function.. in the for loop i've outputed to a "SAY" the info.text string.. |
| 19:12.03 | Xuerian | extract to wow\interface\addons |
| 19:12.04 | Kessian | from where at in the site |
| 19:12.06 | Xuerian | play the game? |
| 19:12.12 | Zurik | it successfully looped thought the datatable. |
| 19:12.16 | Zurik | just doesn't show in my dropdown. |
| 19:12.28 | Dark_Elf | questhelper is hard on memory though |
| 19:12.43 | Xuerian | Unless your computer is starved for memory that's not really a issue |
| 19:12.43 | Cairenn | Kessian: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php |
| 19:12.55 | Zurik | Kessian: best quest helper you can use is thottbot or wowhead.com |
| 19:13.03 | Xuerian | It beats manually looking through comments and clicking the links. |
| 19:13.05 | Zurik | IMO |
| 19:13.22 | Xuerian | Zurik: In detail yes, but despite it's hoggyness QH is rather convenient. |
| 19:13.23 | Zurik | I have duel screens :P |
| 19:13.47 | Xuerian | Zurik: Have you looked at existing examples of UIDropDownMenu to make sure you're not missing a vital step? |
| 19:14.06 | Zurik | yeah.. http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_UIDropDownMenu from this page |
| 19:14.25 | Zurik | i think the issue has to do with some initialization .. but i can't seem to get it to work. |
| 19:14.26 | Kessian | thx |
| 19:14.46 | Zurik | also.. can't seem to figure out what the |
| 19:14.46 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.47 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.47 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.02 | Xuerian | That's why your dropdown menu isn't showing... |
| 19:15.03 | Zurik | is suposed to do extra for me. |
| 19:15.05 | Xuerian | You're not showing it o_0 |
| 19:15.22 | Zurik | but even if it's not toggled.. shouldn't i see data on the first line? |
| 19:15.25 | Xuerian | No |
| 19:15.29 | Xuerian | Literally, no |
| 19:15.36 | Xuerian | That's why it's called "Step 4: Show" :P |
| 19:15.50 | Zurik | hrm.. let me look. |
| 19:16.24 | Zurik | well this is the thing i couldn't figure out about it... |
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| 19:16.46 | Zurik | how do i get the _onClick method to fire if the element is created on the fly. |
| 19:16.56 | Zurik | this is a dynamic function |
| 19:17.12 | Zurik | can i do function drop:_OnClick() ? |
| 19:17.17 | Zurik | cuz i tried that and it didn't work. |
| 19:17.57 | Xuerian | 0_o.... For one, what element isnt' registering clicks? You probably have to RegisterForClicks(..) (look it up) |
| 19:18.20 | Zurik | i also tried dropButton_OnCLick() and UIDropdownMenuButton_OnClick() |
| 19:18.24 | Zurik | nothing seems to fire. |
| 19:18.33 | Xuerian | Those aren't magic functions |
| 19:19.05 | Xuerian | Do you see the XML? It's registering those functions to be callbacks. You have to register your callbacks with frame:SetScript(...) (Look it up, again) |
| 19:19.09 | Zurik | RegisterForClicks..hrm.. i'm not sure what that means... where do i look it up? do you have a link somewhere? |
| 19:19.22 | Zurik | there is no XML, this is all built in lua |
| 19:19.29 | Xuerian | http://wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 19:19.36 | Xuerian | Yes, I write my addons in pure lua |
| 19:19.52 | bleetah | I write my addons in crayon |
| 19:19.53 | Xuerian | But since you're not following the xml part of the example you have to setup your callbacks in lua with SetScript |
| 19:19.58 | bleetah | tho I haven't had any published yet |
| 19:20.10 | bleetah | so I better warn you, I'm in a meeeeannnn mood |
| 19:20.18 | Zurik | oh.. oh.. i think your on to something Xuerian... |
| 19:20.27 | Xuerian | I know you're just starting, but if you're going to follow wowwiki tutorials you have to translate what they do in xml into lua too |
| 19:20.29 | Zurik | i have not tried this yet. |
| 19:20.38 | Zurik | gotcha. |
| 19:20.47 | Xuerian | So if you see you're not doing something they're doing, either look it up in teh widget api page or ask here |
| 19:20.55 | Zurik | yeah, that has been a thorn in my side already a few times. |
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| 19:23.15 | Zurik | Xuerian: do you think i could use this to register the events? http://pastebin.com/d25a7fc26 |
| 19:23.36 | Fisker- | hmm |
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| 19:24.03 | Fisker- | ;_; @ the beta site still being 403 with the F&F alpha started |
| 19:24.22 | Zurik | hi Fisker.. nice to see you again :) |
| 19:24.39 | Fisker- | o hai |
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| 19:25.40 | Zurik | Xuerian: take a look at the pastebin.. i have to go walk my dog real fast.. i'll be back in like 10 mins. |
| 19:25.43 | Xuerian | Zurik: I'm afraid you're falling into the same trap I am. I started out directly using the Ace2 framework, so I didn't learn how to do it by hand. I'd suggest doing it by hand too until you know how |
| 19:26.02 | Zurik | kk. |
| 19:26.08 | bleetah | Fisker-: there's prolly some special secret URL gotta hit up first hehe |
| 19:26.31 | Zurik | i just don't want my code to get sloppy and be one way and then another way.. i like things uniform. |
| 19:26.37 | Fisker- | i guess bleetah |
| 19:26.56 | Xuerian | Zurik: Forming habits is fine, but don't use tons of code for doing something simple |
| 19:27.47 | Xuerian | Zurik: Not only will you learn how better but you'll get a better standing in the community, on the whole. Once you've learned how to do it then feel free to adopt a framework or libraries or what-have you |
| 19:29.48 | Zurik | kk.. thanks for the advice .. and pointing me in the right direction. |
| 19:29.52 | Zurik | the help is appreciated! |
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| 19:31.33 | foxlit | [besides, administering secret alphas through standard HTTP is just silly. Ship encrypted CDs, talk to secret servers via encrypted protocols, no one is the wiser] |
| 19:31.43 | Xuerian | Zurik: Most of us will usually do that :P |
| 19:34.53 | foxlit | grrr, gxResolution! |
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| 19:35.08 | bleetah | hehe |
| 19:35.37 | foxlit | video config seems to reset it from custom values |
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| 19:38.07 | Fisker- | oops |
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| 19:58.30 | foxlit | Oh growl. |
| 19:59.08 | foxlit | So I'm writing something that keeps track of overriden keybindings |
| 19:59.31 | foxlit | combined with a configuration UI that allows people to change those |
| 20:00.05 | foxlit | On a requested change, go through the array of currently registered bindings and check that none conflict (if they do, unbind them) |
| 20:00.09 | foxlit | Updating the UI is hell after that :( |
| 20:00.21 | foxlit | Have to actually update the whole thing :( |
| 20:06.45 | Shirik | >>> debugstack(2) |
| 20:06.46 | Cide | Shirik: "\nstack traceback:\n\td:\\lua\\input.tmp:276: in function <d:\\lua\\input.tmp:271>\n\t(tail call): ?\n\t[C]: in function 'pcall'\n\td:\\lua\\input.tmp:327: in main chunk\n\t[C]: ?" |
| 20:07.00 | Shirik | uh |
| 20:07.21 | Shirik | lua> debugstack(2) |
| 20:07.21 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'debugstack' (a nil value) |
| 20:07.26 | Shirik | --> debugstack(2) |
| 20:07.27 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "return debugstack(2)"]:1: attempt to call global 'debugstack' (a nil value) |
| 20:07.29 | Shirik | .... |
| 20:07.35 | Shirik | wait, it's not built in, lol |
| 20:08.13 | nevcairiel | the real command is debug.traceback i think |
| 20:08.54 | nevcairiel | they just aliased it and nuked the full debug thing afterwards |
| 20:09.27 | nevcairiel | --> debug.traceback(2) |
| 20:09.27 | batbot | nevcairiel: > 2\nstack traceback:\n[string "return debug.traceback(2)"]:1: in main chunk |
| 20:10.41 | Shirik | 2? |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 20:10.54 | nevcairiel | --> debug.traceback() |
| 20:10.55 | batbot | nevcairiel: > stack traceback:\n[string "return debug.traceback()"]:1: in main chunk |
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| 20:15.49 | Shirik | all I want to know |
| 20:15.59 | Shirik | wow's debugstack() |
| 20:16.10 | Shirik | around the function name, does it really go In function `foo" ? |
| 20:16.19 | Shirik | because it seems odd to match up a single quote with a double quote |
| 20:17.04 | MentalPower|ZZzz | nevcairiel: negative |
| 20:17.14 | foxlit | Shirik: I think it's latex-style quoting |
| 20:17.20 | foxlit | `foo' |
| 20:17.43 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: WoW's debugstack has extra parameters that vanilla debug.traceback lacks |
| 20:17.49 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 20:17.55 | nevcairiel | so they improved it too! |
| 20:18.37 | MentalPower | and up to 2.4 WoW's debugstack did not work with coroutines |
| 20:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, they're supposedly starting the F&F alpha |
| 20:26.18 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, where'd you hear that? |
| 20:26.43 | Adys | Anyone remembers the css property to add text to a node? |
| 20:26.45 | Adys | Tem, mmo champion |
| 20:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: mmo-champ - emphasis "supposedly" |
| 20:26.46 | bleetah | mmo-champion.com front page maybe |
| 20:26.53 | Tem | eh |
| 20:26.58 | bleetah | I heard it was on mmowned as well |
| 20:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | The thread about it on general was just nuked |
| 20:28.06 | nevcairiel | thats because the alpha is under a strict NDA |
| 20:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:28.17 | nevcairiel | any discussion on the official forums will be moderated/nuked |
| 20:28.57 | nevcairiel | but the next week will be fun |
| 20:29.09 | nevcairiel | daily new screenshots of fake talents |
| 20:29.11 | nevcairiel | and stuff |
| 20:29.30 | bleetah | tbh it's fairly obvious *something* is happening, what with those redirects and 403s, just what is still up in the air ;) |
| 20:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
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| 20:30.25 | nevcairiel | about time, anyway ;) |
| 20:30.25 | bleetah | nevcairiel: yeah, and announcements of new CM/GM/FM talents for nuking said stuff ;) |
| 20:30.32 | bleetah | nev: god damn yes |
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| 21:03.54 | kd3 | huh... took em long enough |
| 21:04.24 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:04.25 | kd3 | good to see that mmo-c at least put the note about F&F being under a strict NDA... |
| 21:05.07 | Fisker- | blizzard dropped the ball |
| 21:05.09 | Fisker- | as usual :D |
| 21:06.06 | foxlit | That note is dubious |
| 21:06.58 | Cide | Fisker-: as usual? |
| 21:06.59 | Zurik | what does this mean? |
| 21:07.00 | Zurik | MyDropDownMenu doesn't have a "OnClick" script |
| 21:07.16 | Fisker- | yeah Cide |
| 21:07.19 | Fisker- | what do you mean foxlit ? |
| 21:07.20 | foxlit | You're trying to bind OnClick on a frame |
| 21:07.22 | Kalroth | omg, 450 first aid, maybe I'll get a 4k bandage for my 25k health warrior |
| 21:07.33 | Zurik | yeah i'm using self:SetScript("OnClick", function () drop:_ToggleDropdown() end) |
| 21:07.33 | Cide | qq |
| 21:07.47 | foxlit | There's no OnClick handler for frames |
| 21:08.00 | Zurik | ok. |
| 21:08.12 | foxlit | Nor should you need to call ToggleDropdown directly |
| 21:08.17 | nevcairiel | make that frame a button |
| 21:08.22 | nevcairiel | and you have a OnClick :P |
| 21:08.38 | foxlit | nev: but that doesn't make sense with dropdownmenus :) |
| 21:08.44 | Zurik | then how am i suposed to get |
| 21:08.44 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.45 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.45 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.52 | Zurik | to work when i don't have any XML? |
| 21:08.54 | nevcairiel | I didnt claim to understand what he is actually doing |
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| 21:09.46 | Zurik | foxlit: so i don't have to call ToggleDropdown? |
| 21:09.49 | foxlit | If you're making an actual dropdown list box, you shouldn't need to - UIDropDownMenu_Initialize handles everything you have to care about |
| 21:10.03 | foxlit | ToggleDropdown is for menus that you'd pop up on right clicks on frames and stuff |
| 21:10.18 | Zurik | but how to i get that to fire when i don't have any XML everything is lua |
| 21:10.28 | foxlit | [GetSpellInfo((GetSpellInfo(e.id))); vs GetSpellInfo(GetSpellInfo(e.id)); -- such a difference () makes] |
| 21:11.01 | [Liquidor] | Has anyone noticed that newlines in the chat is indented? |
| 21:11.07 | foxlit | Yes, it's nice |
| 21:11.10 | Zurik | oh.. didn't realize that. |
| 21:11.30 | foxlit | There's no more [Mallory] [Bob]: Alice sucks! |
| 21:11.36 | Zurik | well all i'm trying to do is populate a dropdown with some data.. |
| 21:11.37 | Zurik | lol |
| 21:11.42 | Zurik | and it's not working! |
| 21:12.01 | Fisker- | kd3 ! |
| 21:12.06 | foxlit | pastey your code somewhere, if you want to |
| 21:12.07 | Fisker- | blizzard doesn't care about european people! |
| 21:12.15 | foxlit | dropdowns are generally mean like that |
| 21:12.17 | [Liquidor] | Zurik, I suggest you read some docus on it |
| 21:15.05 | Zurik | http://pastebin.com/d7fb6f79e |
| 21:15.06 | kd3 | ? |
| 21:15.06 | Zurik | Liquidor: yeah, i've read just about everything I can. |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker- | kd3 http://i28.tinypic.com/2uzym92.jpg |
| 21:15.06 | Zurik | from blizards site to wowwiki. |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker- | no realms for us :( |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker- | i wonder why it allow people to login and make characters :D |
| 21:15.06 | kd3 | heh |
| 21:15.06 | kd3 | they move the client download? seems like it's in a different spot from the BC F&F alpha |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker- | i don't think it's up yet |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker- | Since everyone can run around make characters and what not |
| 21:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait what? |
| 21:15.07 | foxlit | Zurik: you need to call UIDropDownMenu_Initialize at some point during that |
| 21:15.07 | foxlit | See UIDropDownMenu.lua for how that works |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker- | they probably prepped it for yesterday but didn't make, so they're probably launching next week |
| 21:15.07 | Zurik | would i put that in my constructor? |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker- | make it* |
| 21:15.07 | foxlit | Generally, multiple levels of abstraction make baby llamas cry |
| 21:15.38 | Zurik | lol |
| 21:15.43 | foxlit | after CreateFrame, I suspect |
| 21:15.48 | Zurik | foxlit: ok, let me try something.. i think you gave me an idea. |
| 21:15.54 | foxlit | That OO approach is difficult to read :/ |
| 21:16.32 | Zurik | yeah i'm use to it.. Java / javascript |
| 21:17.46 | foxlit | You'll end up more code to bridge the paradigm difference between your approach and Blizzard's, but whatever floats your boat; |
| 21:19.17 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:19.21 | Fisker- | $spell is refreshed |
| 21:19.37 | Zurik | foxlit: can i call UIDropDownMenu_Initialize(frame, initFunction, displayMode, level, menuList) with a nil initFunction? |
| 21:19.50 | foxlit | I wouldn't. |
| 21:20.07 | Zurik | i should put my loadData there then huh. |
| 21:20.12 | foxlit | It may not crash on you, but it's certainly required for the dropdown to function properly |
| 21:20.32 | foxlit | initFunction is called by the dropdown whenever it needs to look up what it should be displaying. |
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| 21:21.08 | Zurik | what do i put for the displaymode? |
| 21:22.10 | Zurik | nm.. it's "Menu" |
| 21:24.02 | Zurik | foxlit: sorry to bother again.. what is menuList? |
| 21:24.17 | foxlit | if you want a dropdown, nil |
| 21:24.22 | foxlit | if you want a menu, "MENU" |
| 21:24.35 | foxlit | Look menuList up in framexml |
| 21:24.37 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 21:24.37 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 21:25.19 | foxlit | Not a clue; you only really have to provide the first three. |
| 21:26.18 | Zurik | hrm.. ok. |
| 21:26.36 | Zurik | so this should be it? |
| 21:26.36 | Zurik | UIDropDownMenu_Initialize("MyDropDownMenu", drop:_loadData,nil) |
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| 21:28.19 | foxlit | yes, except for that wouldn't compile. |
| 21:28.42 | Zurik | ? am i missing something? |
| 21:29.06 | foxlit | table:function() syntax is only relevant for actual tables and actual functions being called |
| 21:29.15 | foxlit | it's table.key for lookups |
| 21:30.08 | Zurik | i have a function |
| 21:30.08 | Zurik | function drop:_loadData() |
| 21:30.09 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.09 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.09 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.09 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.11 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.13 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.15 | Zurik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.17 | Zurik | end |
| 21:30.21 | Shirik | never do that again |
| 21:30.39 | Shirik | please use pastey for code |
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| 21:31.23 | Shirik | sorry that came off a bit harsh |
| 21:31.54 | Zurik | np.. just learning the rules.. |
| 21:32.07 | Zurik | kinda like when my dog barks.. i squirt it with a water gun. |
| 21:32.14 | Shirik | ! |
| 21:34.26 | foxlit | Hm, question |
| 21:34.26 | foxlit | local caption t, n = e.caption; |
| 21:34.33 | foxlit | How the heck does that not throw an error? |
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| 21:34.59 | Shirik | local caption; t,n = e.caption |
| 21:35.10 | Shirik | perhaps that clarifies it a bit |
| 21:35.39 | foxlit | annoying |
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| 21:36.50 | Zurik | foxlit: YOUR A GOSH DAMN GENIOUS!!!! |
| 21:37.18 | Zurik | I got it working.. woot! |
| 21:38.10 | Zurik | would you like the pasty for the solution? |
| 21:38.32 | foxlit | Not in particular |
| 21:39.31 | Zurik | lol |
| 21:39.32 | Zurik | k. |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | There are two Teleport: Shattrath spells |
| 21:40.31 | foxlit | fun. |
| 21:40.55 | Shirik | the scroll and the mage? |
| 21:41.15 | foxlit | the mage and the mage in this case |
| 21:41.22 | foxlit | horde and alliance have distinct teleports |
| 21:41.32 | Shirik | ah because they go to different places? |
| 21:41.42 | foxlit | I don't think so -- it's a single trainer NPC |
| 21:41.46 | Shirik | hm |
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| 21:55.07 | Zurik | if a button from a dropdown is clicked are any arguments passed to the function so that i can see which options is clicked? |
| 21:55.30 | Guillotine | Nope |
| 21:55.44 | Zurik | so how do i know what was selected? |
| 21:55.52 | Guillotine | But you can make the function part of the dropdown button be "function() MyFunc("5") end" |
| 21:56.16 | Guillotine | Either have different functions for each, or do what I just said and create a dummy function that calls another with the argument |
| 21:56.40 | Zurik | gotcha |
| 21:58.06 | Zurik | so what is the point of having a info.value? |
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| 22:07.20 | foxlit | interface reloads do not fire PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 22:07.44 | MentalPower | yes they do |
| 22:08.00 | foxlit | Wonder why I'm not getting them, then |
| 22:11.07 | foxlit | Okay, MP, why are you saying they do? |
| 22:11.29 | MentalPower | cause its part of the login sequence |
| 22:11.35 | MentalPower | it should always be fired |
| 22:12.27 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_loading_process |
| 22:12.34 | nevcairiel | but yes, P_E_W should always fire |
| 22:13.02 | MentalPower | although 9 times out of 10, you should be using PLAYER_LOGIN instead |
| 22:13.05 | Seerah | yeah, read the link nev gave |
| 22:14.00 | foxlit | It wouldn't solve my issue, though |
| 22:14.23 | MentalPower | whats your issue? |
| 22:15.22 | foxlit | Lack of debug output from DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() called on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 22:16.02 | MentalPower | you sure you're not calling SetMaxLines() afterwards |
| 22:16.09 | foxlit | Something is playing a very evil joke and locking the chat frame between ADDON_LOADED and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD: can see AL output, can't see PEW output. |
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| 22:16.15 | MentalPower | and that you're not running any stopthespam type addons |
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| 22:16.56 | nevcairiel | just play some sound file or something in your debug handler to see it executes during loading screen =P |
| 22:17.21 | foxlit | Can see that it executes properly now, the chat frame behavior is just odd |
| 22:18.33 | MentalPower | foxlit: turn off any other addons |
| 22:18.34 | foxlit | And it happens with nothing other than my addon loaded, and I don't do any filtering on the chat frames within it. |
| 22:19.21 | Seera1 | grr |
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| 22:20.22 | foxlit | Oh wow, even better |
| 22:20.35 | foxlit | It can eat intermediate messages too |
| 22:21.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:21.47 | Seera1 | okay... I'm an irc nub. How do I kick myself off and/or get back my nick? :P |
| 22:22.05 | bleetah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.09 | MentalPower | ./msg nickserv ghost <otherNick> <otherNicksPW> |
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| 22:22.27 | MentalPower | bleetah: the other way around, /msg nickserv help ghost |
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| 22:22.35 | bleetah | er.. yeah oops soz |
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| 22:22.42 | MentalPower | :P |
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| 22:22.57 | Seera1 | thank you :) |
| 22:22.57 | purl | Seera1: pas de quoi |
| 22:23.09 | MentalPower | after I get my email server :P |
| 22:23.26 | MentalPower | (that's my jab for the week) |
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| 22:24.33 | MentalPower | mmmm, cookies :) |
| 22:24.47 | bleetah | do they have caffeine? |
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| 22:26.22 | bleetah | no? :'( |
| 22:27.17 | Seerah | chocolate has caffeine :) |
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| 22:41.28 | AlexanderYoshi | Hello |
| 22:42.04 | bleetah | allo! :) |
| 22:43.08 | Seerah | morning! |
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| 22:47.16 | Fisker- | everyone is afraid of talking |
| 22:47.30 | Teomyr | waaah, shhh |
| 22:52.11 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
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| 22:55.33 | Fisker- | see i'm right :P |
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| 22:56.06 | bleetah | weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa weee waaaa |
| 22:56.10 | Shirik | o.o |
| 22:56.25 | Shirik | that's not what an ambulance sounds like |
| 22:56.35 | Shirik | it goes whooooooooooooooo with increasing and decreasing oooo |
| 22:56.47 | Shirik | crazy brits |
| 22:56.52 | Shirik | or was it aussie |
| 22:57.05 | bleetah | pffft seppo |
| 22:57.17 | bleetah | we both forgot to mention the doppler effect as well |
| 22:57.18 | Fisker- | beta.worldofwarcraft.com needs moar 200 OK |
| 22:57.24 | Fisker- | instead of 403 forbidden ;_; |
| 22:57.25 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 22:57.27 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 22:57.31 | Shirik | it's whoooooooooooooooehoooooooo |
| 22:57.50 | Fisker- | it's WHOOOOOOOOOEEEEEWHOOOOOEEEEEEECRASH |
| 22:57.52 | Shirik | the "eh" is when it passes |
| 22:57.52 | bleetah | nononon |
| 22:58.02 | bleetah | whoooooOOOOOOOOOooooOooOOHOOOOooooeoeoeoeoe |
| 22:58.04 | bleetah | hmm |
| 22:58.09 | Fisker- | the crash is when it drives into other vehicles |
| 22:58.11 | bleetah | i think fisker's closer |
| 22:58.30 | Maldivia | here - the sound of an ambulance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuPbBpqen00 |
| 22:58.43 | Fisker- | what can we use that for when it's not in text? |
| 22:59.32 | Maldivia | to spark your imagination... |
| 23:02.57 | Fisker- | consider the spark extinguished |
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| 23:09.09 | bleetah | Shirik: pix pls |
| 23:09.16 | Shirik | lol |
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| 23:34.40 | foxlit | uh, navbox colors? |
| 23:34.48 | foxlit | wrong channel :) |
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