00:25.06 | znf | Gnarfoz, well, you don't want to cook tuna too much :P |
00:25.31 | znf | also, ffs, I hate it when I update a bios remotely |
00:25.37 | znf | and the system takes minutes to boot back on |
00:25.38 | znf | :-S |
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04:39.25 | Stanzilla | znf: https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/handys+smartphones/lg+g6+ice+platinum+eu+ware |
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08:35.31 | bluspacecow | but y tho |
08:35.43 | quiescens | gives blu a cookie |
09:40.32 | znf | Stanzilla, yeah, that's it's usual price these days |
09:40.36 | znf | not that interested in it |
09:40.55 | Stanzilla | ok |
09:49.06 | znf | uuu |
09:49.07 | znf | 1400p |
09:49.08 | znf | 1440p |
09:49.12 | znf | well, shit's small |
09:49.12 | znf | :D |
09:51.43 | znf | ...is this shit normal? :-| |
09:51.48 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/sOoNpGPY/20180329_125022_HDR.jpg |
09:52.05 | nevcairiel | no |
09:53.42 | znf | uhm, why is it happening? :-| |
09:53.52 | znf | switched to 60Hz, but still tears a bit |
09:56.00 | znf | It's on DisplayPort |
09:56.03 | znf | I'm using the original cable |
09:56.07 | znf | DP to mDP |
10:01.32 | znf | this shit windows keeps wanting to use 59Hz |
10:06.12 | Stanzilla | thats the same really |
10:06.45 | quiescens | znf can tell the difference |
10:06.56 | znf | it's annoying that I switch to 60 and it goes back to 59 |
10:07.05 | nevcairiel | thats pretty normal |
10:09.20 | znf | I don't notice any tearing in game |
10:11.02 | znf | my GPU seems to be struggling a bit, but not by much, maybe dropping 1-2 fps :D |
10:20.56 | Kalroth | 59.94 is the same as 60.00 |
10:20.59 | Kalroth | https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2006076/screen-refresh-rate-in-windows-does-not-apply-the-user-selected-settin |
10:21.17 | Kalroth | "In Windows 7 and newer versions of Windows, when a user selects 60Hz, the OS stores a value of 59.94Hz. However, 59Hz is shown in the Screen refresh rate in Control Panel, even though the user selected 60Hz." |
10:25.00 | znf | I know that... |
10:25.06 | znf | anyway, tearing seems to have gone |
10:25.20 | znf | wonder if it was just difference in temperature? (was freshly delivered/unboxed) |
10:30.20 | znf | there's so much room for terminal text on this resolution! |
10:33.13 | nevcairiel | do you not know that one doesn't turn on frozen hardware, but lets it warm up first? |
10:34.00 | znf | wasn't frozen |
10:34.05 | znf | >forecast mamaia |
10:34.09 | Catal1na | Mamaia, ConstanÈa, Romania: 9°C (â6°C). ð¤ï¸ Mostly cloudy starting tonight, continuing until tomorrow morning. Hum: 69%, Wind: 15kph N ð§ï¸Light rain on Sunday, with high temperatures peaking at 13°C on Sunday. Friday: ð¨Breezy until afternoon and mostly cloudy throughout the day. Min: 8°C/4°C Max: 11°C/11°C. Saturday: ð¨Windy until afternoon and mostly cloudy throughout the day. Min: (1 more message) |
10:34.19 | znf | it's sunny, so it's actually more than that |
10:35.22 | znf | someone here was on hexchat, right? |
10:35.24 | znf | other than me, I mean |
10:42.44 | znf | latest hexchat update seems to have broken emojis for me o.o |
10:43.47 | quiescens | o.o |
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10:57.44 | Stanzilla | ðð |
10:58.09 | znf | yeah, my emojis are broken :-( |
10:58.43 | znf | oh, cool, someone already made an issue https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/2138 |
11:00.15 | quiescens | go to sleep o.o |
11:29.50 | znf | oh, this monitor also has a "sound card" |
11:32.14 | quiescens | grats |
11:38.37 | znf | nevcairiel, I'm assuming that piping audio trough DP would incur a high latency? |
12:08.11 | znf | https://1.1.1.1/ |
12:08.19 | znf | how the fuck did they get a cert for an IP address to validate? |
12:09.04 | znf | haven't browsers stopped accepting those years ago? |
12:10.25 | nevcairiel | nah, IP-based certs are perfectly fine |
12:10.29 | nevcairiel | just barely anyone uses them |
12:11.07 | znf | I think it's mostly because no CA accepts to issue them |
12:11.10 | znf | LE doesn't :-/ |
12:16.04 | znf | actually I wonder why they aren't doing them |
12:16.18 | znf | I'd like something as short as 30 days for IP addresses |
12:16.25 | znf | validated based on... ripe database? |
12:16.27 | znf | or something |
12:16.44 | znf | nevcairiel, so, DP sound latency? |
12:17.11 | nevcairiel | it should be the same as hdmi or something, so basically fine |
12:18.12 | znf | I always feel that when I do that audio test on HDMI in Windows, playing the test sound, it feels like it's very delayed |
13:38.47 | nevcairiel | that usually happens because the HDMI connection needs to handshake its audio format, if you have a constant stream like when playing, thats not something that happens |
14:18.18 | znf | Ah |
14:18.22 | znf | Good to know thanks |
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17:17.33 | znf | hmmm, the screen tearing is back |
17:17.35 | znf | so it wasn't temp |
17:17.36 | znf | :( |
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20:46.10 | Gnarfoz | /s |
20:46.24 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
20:46.41 | Gnarfoz | trying to disable feature upgrades on Win 10 Home, but not Windows Update entirely, what an ordeal |
20:47.26 | quiescens | you sound like you want to be able to control what your computer does |
20:47.35 | quiescens | i don't think that's allowed these days |
20:49.35 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
20:49.51 | Gnarfoz | the only thing it's doing is trying to upgrade, and fail, because the cpu is not supported anymore |
20:49.57 | Gnarfoz | gj MS |
20:53.08 | quiescens | i'm all for making it install updates by default without asking, but they should have left the option to turn it off or disable certain things |
20:53.43 | znf | the cpu is not supported? |
20:53.44 | znf | what? |
20:53.44 | znf | O.o |
20:54.39 | quiescens | there are cpu requirements |
20:55.14 | Gnarfoz | znf: Clover Trail |
20:55.31 | znf | why wouldn't it be supported? |
20:55.35 | Gnarfoz | because it isn't |
20:55.39 | znf | I'm just wondering |
20:55.56 | znf | What about same-gen CPUs? |
20:55.58 | Gnarfoz | out of production support by Intel, and afterwards MS encountered issues with it |
20:56.02 | Gnarfoz | so they dropped it |
20:56.09 | znf | Ah, so it's a case of that specific CPU? |
20:56.24 | Gnarfoz | all of those, which is like, 4 models |
20:56.41 | Gnarfoz | basically first-gen Windows 8 convertibles/tablets |
20:56.56 | Gnarfoz | apparently they released 1703, then figured out 1703 has issues on Clover Trail (if I understand it correctly, just graphical), and thus never pushed 1703 through Windows Update for those |
20:57.50 | Gnarfoz | I had installed 1703 with the Media Creation Tool, though, since I was at my parents' anyway at the time and didn't want 1 out of 3 computers to have a different version... and because it's a shitbox, I had to delete the downgrade files right after, since it only has like 16 GB internal memory for C: |
20:58.02 | Gnarfoz | (could be 32, either way, it's constantly overflowing) |
20:58.34 | Gnarfoz | I assume that being on an older version than that will correctly not try to upgrade, but 1703 seems to spend all day, every day, trying to upgrade to 1709 |
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20:59.37 | Gnarfoz | if there isn't enough space, it'll fail because of that; if I make enough room, it'll re-download it over and over, maxing out the connection for 15-20 minutes and of course also making the tablet unusable because the CPU is weaksauce (and 2 GB RAM doesn't help either, and the eMMC storage is also terribad) |
21:00.04 | Gnarfoz | in short, you can basically throw this thing away now :D (it has various hardware defects as well, thanks Acer) |
21:00.27 | Gnarfoz | when support for 1703 ends (which is later this year, I think), I'll just disable Windows Update entirely |
21:00.58 | quiescens | with extreme prejudice |
21:01.11 | Gnarfoz | as it is, I made enough room to fit the upgrader on disk (so it doesn't try and re-download it), and removed all permissions from C:\Windows10Upgrade and the appropriate C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\clsid subfolder where it's downloaded to |
21:01.16 | quiescens | why do those words together even mean what they mean |
21:01.23 | Gnarfoz | good question |
21:01.43 | Gnarfoz | "with prejudice" (or without) is a legal term, not sure if that's the same etymology |
21:02.18 | Gnarfoz | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/terminate_with_extreme_prejudice |
21:02.38 | Gnarfoz | same thing indeed |
21:03.39 | Gnarfoz | speaking of updates, can I install 1803 manually, yet? Stanzilla? |
21:04.17 | znf | just install ubuntu! |
21:04.18 | znf | :D |
21:04.45 | Gnarfoz | I already have |
21:05.07 | znf | :o |
21:05.39 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/GIAzvSP.png |
21:05.43 | Gnarfoz | :p |
21:05.48 | znf | ...dick |
21:06.01 | Gnarfoz | in other news, the VLC shell extension for previews and shit doesn't deal well with 280 GB video files. |
21:06.22 | znf | I somehow lost Thumbnails in explorer |
21:06.25 | znf | for png/jpg |
21:06.27 | znf | not sure how :D |
21:06.51 | Gnarfoz | a feature disableable on several levels |
21:07.04 | quiescens | i feel like vlc has gotten really bad at seeking to specific points of files lately |
21:07.15 | quiescens | or, not lately, but worse than it once was |
21:07.18 | znf | it's just that I didn't disable it |
21:07.31 | Gnarfoz | something else might have, though |
21:07.40 | Gnarfoz | I just meant there's several places to check |
21:09.35 | Gnarfoz | ugh google.com/finance got a new UI :C |
21:11.55 | Gnarfoz | how do they make a website that doesn't fit on a 1920 wide screen without a horizontal scroll bar? there's barely 1000px of content |
21:12.26 | Gnarfoz | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-finance-closes-the-portfolio-moves-to-search-2017-11-28 ugh |
21:12.42 | Gnarfoz | they email me about enough random shit but not about nuking all my transactional data? thanks Obama |
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21:13.47 | Gnarfoz | "The company informed Finance users of the change to portfolios in September and gave them until âmid-Novemberâ to download portfolio data." liars! |
21:14.43 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if that's in the "download all my data" thing |
21:15.31 | Gnarfoz | (also fun how they consider September to mid-November enough time for removing a feature where users can input data) |
21:16.35 | znf | thanks Gnarfoz |
21:16.38 | znf | I realized what I did :D |
21:16.58 | Gnarfoz | I don't have my rubber duck suit on, but you're welcome |
21:17.05 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/ajam4oR.png |
21:17.14 | znf | not sure why Thumbnails would be there tough |
21:17.25 | znf | seems it's not it's place |
21:17.52 | Gnarfoz | since they're cached, probably |
21:18.09 | Gnarfoz | and thus take up space (and time to generate as well) |
21:19.47 | znf | ok, so, I have no bleding on my dell |
21:19.58 | znf | tough I do get that annoying tearing when running the test from ShareX |
21:20.05 | znf | I haven't found something similar that is not browser-based |
21:20.20 | znf | anyone knows of a tearing test that runs native? |
21:20.59 | Gnarfoz | whew, "add from portfolios" still has a download button "until March" |
21:21.00 | nevcairiel | if you get any kind of tearing on the desktop with the compositor on, then your screen is broken |
21:21.04 | nevcairiel | because its impossible |
21:21.12 | Gnarfoz | guess I grabbed it just in time ;p |
21:21.33 | znf | I just don't know if I can trust that test from ShareX |
21:21.50 | nevcairiel | tearing tests are easy, use a line that moves from left to right |
21:22.05 | nevcairiel | not so hard to do =p |
21:22.14 | Gnarfoz | doesn't madvr have one? |
21:22.21 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
21:22.42 | znf | I don't see it in the browser tests :-| |
21:23.24 | znf | or video |
21:24.26 | nevcairiel | re: 1803 Gnarfoz, it went rtm the other day so if you can find a ISO of that you could install it |
21:24.45 | Gnarfoz | I see; I usually use the MCT, but if that hasn't been updated, yet, I'll just wait |
21:24.59 | nevcairiel | yeah that'll be another two weeks or so |
21:25.19 | nevcairiel | april 10 is the official date i think |
21:26.19 | nevcairiel | rtm doesnt mean "done" afterall, just that they now update it using WU updates instead of full new builds = p |
21:26.57 | Gnarfoz | MPC-HC has the tearing test and it's disabled when madvr is being used btw |
21:27.08 | quiescens | more generally, released doesn't mean done these days |
21:27.10 | quiescens | ^^ |
21:27.16 | Gnarfoz | has it ever |
21:27.20 | nevcairiel | no |
21:27.25 | Gnarfoz | it used to mean "no more updates" :D |
21:27.53 | quiescens | updates gnarfoz |
21:28.54 | znf | I run the nvidia g-sync pendulum test |
21:28.58 | znf | no tearing there, either |
21:29.19 | nevcairiel | it'll haunt you for ever now |
21:29.33 | znf | well, I just want to know if I should return it :P |
21:29.44 | znf | there's no other issue with the screen, no bleeding, no dead pixels |
21:31.18 | znf | Stanzilla, 10.04 is the overwatch release date? |
21:31.23 | znf | I mean, anniversary? |
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22:15.52 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
22:16.17 | Gnarfoz | either VLC or EntertainTV is being weird and not playing audio on some channels |
22:16.27 | nevcairiel | possibly both |
22:16.32 | nevcairiel | also stop using vlc |
22:16.34 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
22:16.42 | Gnarfoz | it's for my dad, what can I say :p |
22:17.07 | Gnarfoz | at least I figured out where the screenshot and record locations can be set |
22:17.49 | Gnarfoz | (as it turns out, mpc-hc can't play the streams) |
22:17.58 | nevcairiel | streams of what |
22:18.03 | Gnarfoz | entertain |
22:18.07 | Gnarfoz | (iptv) |
22:18.14 | Gnarfoz | it's rtp, I think |
22:18.29 | nevcairiel | it sort of can, but the url syntax to open it is a bit weird |
22:18.45 | Gnarfoz | this works in VLC: rtp://87.141.215.251@232.0.20.116:10000 |
22:19.02 | Gnarfoz | which, I guess, is unicast@multicast |
22:19.08 | nevcairiel | i forgot how it worked, i havent had entertain for years now |
22:19.32 | Gnarfoz | never had it, and my dad has been paying for it for a couple of years now without realizing ;p |
22:19.53 | nevcairiel | it also always was a bit flaky on the PC, since the multicast was VLAN'ed or something |
22:19.56 | Gnarfoz | (it's only 5⬠extra these days) |
22:19.59 | nevcairiel | but one could probably fix that |
22:20.27 | Gnarfoz | that's not the issue; that would prevent it from working at all |
22:20.43 | nevcairiel | for some reason you always got a few minutes and then it would stop |
22:20.52 | Gnarfoz | because it starts out with unicast |
22:20.57 | Gnarfoz | until it can sync up to the multicast stream |
22:21.05 | Gnarfoz | (also, EntertainTV doesn't do it that way anymore; Entertain did - yeah, great naming) |
22:21.13 | nevcairiel | like i said, years ago |
22:21.14 | nevcairiel | :) |
22:22.09 | Gnarfoz | interesting, mpc hc can use the "Entertain" URL, but it only plays audio |
22:22.29 | Gnarfoz | which is exactly the part that doesn't work in VLC for the same station |
22:22.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
22:25.52 | znf | why stop using VLC? |
22:26.01 | znf | it still has uses with network streams |
22:26.06 | znf | can pretty much play anything you throw at it |
22:26.23 | znf | network wise, that is |
22:26.33 | znf | also, I recently found out that mpc doesn't handle webm properly, but vlc does |
22:26.41 | znf | didn't investigate why tough |
22:26.49 | nevcairiel | webm is just mkv, it works fine |
22:27.18 | znf | maybe it fails on libvpx? |
22:27.36 | nevcairiel | maybe your self-made file is half broken =p |
22:27.52 | znf | I used ffmpeg |
22:28.29 | Gnarfoz | maybe VLC is doing weird things with my DAC? |
22:29.25 | Gnarfoz | same file (after recording it with vlc) has audio in mpchc |
22:29.33 | Gnarfoz | so probably just a playback issue |
22:30.09 | Gnarfoz | yup, disabled passthrough, that was it |
22:30.14 | Gnarfoz | of course my DAC can't decode ac3 :p |
22:31.09 | znf | I need a decent bluetooth adapter for PC to use my QC35 |
22:31.21 | Gnarfoz | quality is pretty ok, as well; 7 Mbit/s h264 720p50 + 384 kbit/s ac3... if I was a TV watching person... |
22:31.59 | znf | nevcairiel, is bluetooth profile support hardware dependant or software? |
22:32.00 | nevcairiel | sounds like about the same bandwidth you get from DVB-C for HD channel |
22:32.03 | znf | windows wise |
22:32.17 | nevcairiel | hardware |
22:32.29 | Gnarfoz | unless you find a BT dongle that's really just an SDR :D |
22:32.45 | nevcairiel | SDR is used far too rarely |
22:32.48 | nevcairiel | so much potential |
22:32.52 | Gnarfoz | (no idea if that exists or if that would integrate with Windows) |
22:33.07 | znf | SDR? |
22:33.13 | nevcairiel | software defined radio |
22:33.55 | znf | 125⬠|
22:33.58 | znf | yeah, I'll pass :D |
22:34.11 | nevcairiel | instead of hardware components doing all the heavy lifting, you just get a simple radio that gives you all the raw data for your software to process in any way you want |
22:35.00 | nevcairiel | the big problem is that you need all this stuff in software then, so unless someone actually made a Bluetooth stack for an SDR radio.... :p |
22:35.19 | znf | yeah, figured |
22:36.02 | znf | meh, I guess I could use any bluetooth dongle |
22:36.16 | znf | as QC35 only does AAC and SBC |
22:36.48 | nevcairiel | most of my motherboards have such stuff built-in, although i think this one actually came without that |
22:37.19 | znf | I always had a weird feeling for mainboard with built-in wifi/bt |
22:37.27 | znf | feels unnatural :D |
22:37.44 | nevcairiel | I would just never use Wifi on a PC |
22:37.53 | nevcairiel | and i practically never use BT ever |
22:37.55 | znf | I used to play WoW on a laptop my first years |
22:37.57 | nevcairiel | so its all useless |
22:38.14 | znf | so much weird latency half a meter away from the router |
22:39.03 | znf | you'd ping the ap/router, 1ms, 1ms, 1ms, 30ms, 1ms, 1ms |
22:39.03 | znf | ??! |
22:41.35 | Funkeh` | that's how wireless works |
22:44.24 | znf | only on laptops |
22:44.42 | znf | my friend has 15km+ links that are ping-stable even when under load |
22:45.03 | nevcairiel | thats not the same type of wifi =p |
22:45.50 | Gnarfoz | also not in the same place, probably (indoors with various other electronics, vs. on a roof somewhere with a dedicated dish) |
22:46.29 | znf | the issue on laptop seems to be whatever DPC latency checker measures |
22:46.48 | nevcairiel | then you just have a crappy wifi receiver |
22:47.46 | znf | pft, best of the best! Intel! |
22:50.08 | znf | oh, I know |
22:50.14 | znf | I should have used KillerNIC |
22:50.19 | znf | guaranteed less latency! |
22:52.07 | nevcairiel | bleh shitty amazon.co.uk. I was trying to get a Blu-ray, and they have multiple "shops" selling the same one, but the primary one its showing me is one that doesn't deliver to germany for some reason, and finding the button to switch to another one (amazon itself, as it turns out) took me way too long <.< |
22:52.48 | znf | that "X from other sellers" is annoying |
22:52.56 | znf | you can't go to the exact product page of that seller |
22:53.04 | znf | unless you add to cart and then click the product link again |
22:53.08 | znf | or is there another way? |
22:54.36 | nevcairiel | i was looking at this, because its reported to have playback failures i want to look into, https://www.amazon.co.uk/71-Blu-ray-Jack-OConnell/dp/B00O7LYMIO/ .. the only way I found was to click the small price text under "New from" to go there, which is tiny and not very descriptive |
22:57.32 | nevcairiel | anyway i should sleep, got some telephone conference shit in the morning |
22:57.52 | znf | I don't see a new from |
22:57.52 | znf | :D |
22:58.17 | nevcairiel | in the variant table on the far right |
22:58.51 | nevcairiel | there is a tiny £3.94 you can click on to get there |
23:00.06 | nevcairiel | its just dumb that it doesnt show me one i can actually order |
23:00.21 | nevcairiel | it even has a red warning text that it doesnt ship to me |
23:00.48 | znf | oh my god |
23:00.57 | znf | ah yes, that's why I hate that offer-listing page |
23:01.13 | znf | it doesn't tell you that it does/doesn't ship to your country |
23:01.30 | znf | so I actually have to add to cart and either go trough the checkout process or click on the item link from my cart |
23:01.34 | nevcairiel | thats why i just went with the original amazon offering, even if its slightly more expensive |
23:01.44 | nevcairiel | because i know that ships |
23:01.46 | znf | So I have like: |
23:01.47 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/21zhTaJ.png |
23:01.48 | znf | then |
23:02.03 | znf | basked |
23:02.04 | znf | then |
23:02.05 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/Qmxmams.png |
23:02.06 | znf | \o/ |
23:03.00 | nevcairiel | i should find a place on the internet to reliably "borrow" untouched Blu-ray rips instead of buying broken discs tho =p |
23:03.32 | znf | hdbits? :> |
23:03.58 | znf | I don't have an invite for it tough |
23:04.05 | znf | or account |
23:04.27 | nevcairiel | yeah those invite-only torrent communities are annoying |
23:04.58 | znf | it's how they've kept alive all these years |
23:05.01 | nevcairiel | and often requires lots of seeding which you cant really do without getting seed boxes |
23:05.11 | znf | and a decent health of torrent |
23:05.12 | znf | and a decent health of torrents |
23:07.11 | Gnarfoz | shifty eyes |
23:08.26 | nevcairiel | maybe i should look for alternate nzb indexers again, wonder whats popular these days |
23:14.16 | *** join/#wowace Jitta (~Jitta@ip5b402718.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
23:24.12 | znf | >C 1 btc to usd |
23:24.13 | Catal1na | 1 BTC == 7218.69 USD (04-9.47%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin |
23:24.15 | znf | :( |
23:24.17 | znf | >c 1 eth to usd |
23:24.18 | Catal1na | 1 ETH == 389.236 USD (04-13.20%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum |
23:24.20 | znf | jesus man |
23:24.21 | znf | wtf? |
23:24.29 | nevcairiel | its dead, jim |
23:26.43 | znf | maybe the influx of miners will gtfo :D |