| 00:09.10 | znf | "when I'm a doctor on United Airlines": http://i.imgur.com/jCUvZzp.gifv |
| 00:09.11 | znf | :D |
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| 01:39.54 | znf | uuuu, new shit http://i.imgur.com/SrMkfX0.png |
| 01:48.21 | Stanzilla | oh hey new twitch layout https://i.imgur.com/qiSmFQI.png |
| 01:48.43 | Megalon | it's bugged |
| 01:48.51 | Megalon | you can still make out where the actual stream is |
| 01:49.37 | Stanzilla | BetterTwitchTV will take care of every annoyance anyway |
| 01:50.03 | Megalon | https://player.twitch.tv/?channel= takes care of everything |
| 01:50.04 | Megalon | ;) |
| 01:50.10 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 01:50.53 | Megalon | guess you don't watching the actual stream |
| 01:51.00 | Megalon | +like ;< |
| 01:52.27 | Megalon | i only watch in the popout player, no clue why you'd waste so much screen estate to that other stuff :P |
| 01:53.32 | Stanzilla | I use the chat sometimes |
| 01:54.23 | Megalon | i only use that on maybe 1-2 streams and that's by irc |
| 01:56.55 | znf | holy shit |
| 01:56.57 | znf | that layout is horrible |
| 01:57.29 | znf | yay http://i.imgur.com/5XiMNMq.png |
| 01:58.10 | Stanzilla | that one was the only new legendary skin I got |
| 01:58.47 | Stanzilla | and I bought 15 boxes |
| 02:04.27 | znf | it's epic not legendary! |
| 02:04.30 | Stanzilla | Fisker: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-app-7-0-4-prepares-for-multi-user-hotword-detection-rating-services-and-references-a-device-called-bisto/ |
| 02:04.30 | znf | oh, we lost |
| 02:04.33 | znf | seriously |
| 02:04.34 | znf | we lost |
| 02:04.41 | znf | holy shit, what's with the retards |
| 02:05.04 | Fisker | Yeah I saw Stanzilla |
| 02:05.05 | Megalon | hey znf, how's the life in elo-hell |
| 02:11.31 | znf | we lost again |
| 02:11.32 | znf | hahahaha |
| 02:11.41 | znf | oh my god, all kinds of retards at this hour |
| 02:13.34 | znf | play with me, Stanzilla |
| 02:14.17 | Stanzilla | going to bed soon |
| 02:25.03 | znf | lost again |
| 02:25.04 | znf | :D |
| 02:30.53 | znf | fucking stupid people |
| 02:32.08 | znf | hard concept for mercy to not follow fucking tracer when you have to sit on the point |
| 02:33.28 | znf | it's all Megalon's fault |
| 02:35.44 | Megalon | oneshots znf with his KSVK |
| 02:44.05 | znf | lost, again |
| 02:44.13 | znf | wow, apparently "hard" is retard proof |
| 02:44.31 | znf | is not* |
| 02:45.02 | quiescens | go to sleep znf |
| 02:45.27 | Torhal | directs znf to ##Overwatch |
| 02:45.28 | Torhal | >.> |
| 02:45.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:45.49 | quiescens | gives Torhal a cookie |
| 02:46.00 | Megalon | <znf> wow, apparently "hard" is retard proof |
| 02:46.08 | Megalon | oh the things that could be said |
| 02:46.10 | Megalon | 8) |
| 02:49.18 | znf | shut up |
| 02:49.19 | znf | Torhal, no |
| 02:49.26 | znf | we lost again |
| 02:49.38 | znf | with the same dwarf who has no concept of NOT PLACING THE TURRET IN PLAIN SIGHT |
| 02:51.30 | Torhal | places znf in a turret and seals it with QUIKRETE®. |
| 02:52.14 | quiescens | harsh |
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| 06:47.16 | Fisker | why does server 2016 hate me Stanzilla ? |
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| 08:08.53 | nevcairiel | timewalking black temple raid, eh |
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| 09:10.27 | Gnarfoz | timewalking raid? |
| 09:10.59 | nevcairiel | coming in 7.2.5 |
| 09:30.34 | Gnarfoz | neat |
| 09:30.34 | Gnarfoz | I didn't do TW weekly last week :( |
| 09:30.34 | Gnarfoz | only normal NH loot |
| 09:30.34 | quiescens | ): |
| 09:30.34 | Gnarfoz | (also too busy) |
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| 10:55.46 | Phixion | :( |
| 10:57.54 | Phixion | https://unigine.com/en/products/benchmarks/superposition :o |
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| 11:48.06 | znf | Stanzilla, have you tried the pve challenge yet? |
| 11:48.16 | znf | on anything else than the easy mode? |
| 11:48.39 | znf | it's fucking brutal |
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| 13:59.47 | Kesava | one of my older projects' main image is sticking. I deleted it, i |
| 13:59.53 | Kesava | Whoops |
| 14:00.17 | Kesava | It's not in the image list, but it's still there. (and this is like 10 hours later) |
| 14:00.25 | Kesava | Is this... Normal? |
| 14:00.38 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/l9ZSZ5y.png |
| 14:00.42 | znf | *sigh* |
| 14:02.02 | nevcairiel | you're pretty bad znf |
| 14:02.11 | znf | clearly |
| 14:02.14 | nevcairiel | all these medals and still didnt make your team win |
| 14:02.15 | nevcairiel | l2p |
| 14:02.23 | znf | can't charge the bombs/bastion out of form |
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| 14:53.48 | Kesava | (who should i highlight for website things?) |
| 14:53.59 | Kesava | i'm never quite sure |
| 14:54.08 | nevcairiel | if in doubt, Zeldo or Torhal for everything |
| 14:54.08 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:54.18 | Kesava | well now i can blame you |
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| 16:20.29 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 16:31.29 | Stanzilla | znf: yeah wiped on it a few times before the servers went down on patch day |
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| 17:04.19 | Stanzilla | on expert or whatever the second to hardest diff was |
| 17:05.00 | znf | yeah, I tried that, too, all day, with randoms |
| 17:05.06 | znf | can't get past the payload arming |
| 17:05.21 | Stanzilla | we wiped on the last step |
| 17:11.33 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 17:35.38 | Torhal | nevcairiel: You can also blame Flamegoat, since he might be the one on shift, which is actually the case now. :D |
| 17:35.44 | Torhal | Kesava: ^ |
| 17:36.11 | quiescens | but blaming torhal is more traditional |
| 17:36.47 | Torhal | Though inefectual, since I now actively attempt to ignore work-related things when not working. |
| 17:40.11 | Kesava | well it's nothing urgent, just one of my old projects (kuimount) has a stuck "main" image. I deleted it from curseforge yesterday but it's still being used as the main image. |
| 17:40.35 | Kesava | and there doesn't seem to be anywhere else to delete it from. so i'll put this down to a migration bug and definitely not my fault. |
| 17:42.08 | Fisker | I'll blame Torhal |
| 17:42.10 | Torhal | Still showing on mods.curse.com? |
| 17:42.20 | Torhal | I'll Fisker Stanzilla. |
| 17:42.30 | Fisker | Also Stanzilla that was a stupid fucking issue I had |
| 17:42.32 | Kesava | yup, it's duplicated and everything |
| 17:42.48 | Fisker | This Java service didn't get path because of some annoying bug |
| 17:51.50 | Torhal | Kesava: Is the image not being deleted on CurseForge, or is the deletion just not syncing over to mods.curse.com and the App? |
| 17:52.46 | Kesava | Well it's still being used as the thumbnail on curseforge too, it's just.. not in the images tab. If the thumbnails relies on it syncing to curse or something, then I'd assume yeah, it hasn't synced the deletion |
| 17:53.30 | Kesava | oh blah i think i found the problem |
| 17:54.06 | Kesava | you chaaanged it, you have to manually set the "image/logo" under the project settings now. psh |
| 17:56.05 | Kesava | (i guess i haven't changed any images since the old curseforge) |
| 17:57.33 | Flamegoat | Okay, just read through and caught up. |
| 17:57.51 | Kesava | tis ok, was just me not checking settings because i'm used to the old way. |
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| 17:58.58 | Flamegoat | No worries! Also, FYI, you can generally ping any of us or alternatively all of us on the CurseForge side. Whoever sees it first will tell whoever's on the clock to go look. |
| 17:59.43 | Kesava | kay, thanks :D |
| 18:00.36 | znf | Torhal, what can we bribe you with to install a buzzer in their office? |
| 18:00.54 | znf | some rpi based buzzer |
| 18:01.00 | znf | then we'll make an irc bot |
| 18:01.06 | znf | and add a trigger for the buzzer |
| 18:01.19 | Flamegoat | Look. As it stands, I really like you guys. But....... |
| 18:01.23 | Flamegoat | :D :D |
| 18:01.38 | Torhal | You'd have to pay for my air travel and hotel accommodations, since it's 2k miles away from where I live, plus expenses and installation time. You may also need to pay for my bail and all bills after my termination. |
| 18:02.35 | znf | You'd think we'd get you out on bail... |
| 18:02.37 | Torhal | So it would be cheaper on your part to talk Flamegoat into doing it. |
| 18:03.29 | Flamegoat | I'm about to be in the office a lot more, I'd prefer no buzzer. We already have me, I'm plenty loud. |
| 18:04.39 | Ressy | lol |
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| 18:21.10 | Fisker | I once paid a trip to Blizzcon Torhal |
| 18:30.04 | Ressy | Totally worth it. |
| 18:30.11 | Ressy | Loooots booze & CAH & fun |
| 18:30.41 | Ressy | And some of the people are awesome too. :) |
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| 18:36.14 | znf | CAH? |
| 18:36.50 | Stanzilla | cards against humanity |
| 18:37.07 | znf | ah. |
| 18:37.13 | znf | Nerds! |
| 18:47.10 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: do I need D3 PTR to even see necro beta? or do I have this wrong somehow |
| 18:47.55 | Stanzilla | you would see the ptr in the dropdown in the launcher |
| 18:48.53 | Stanzilla | they basically used the old ptr and made it invite only |
| 18:56.39 | Ressy | Dear lord the CAH nights were amazing. |
| 18:56.58 | Ressy | the year I went. Bryan bought booze.. We all got trashed. |
| 18:57.10 | Megalon | white trashed? |
| 18:58.03 | Megalon | thrashes |
| 19:12.17 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/12/burger-kings-stupid-new-ad-triggers-google-nowassistant-tell-whoppers/ |
| 19:12.57 | Fisker | And yeah Blizzcon is fun |
| 19:14.41 | znf | wait |
| 19:14.47 | znf | why does that ad trigger my phone |
| 19:14.48 | znf | wtf |
| 19:15.02 | Stanzilla | because that is exactly what it is supposed to do |
| 19:15.06 | Stanzilla | it's fucking genius |
| 19:15.37 | znf | but the assistant on my phone should only answer to me...? |
| 19:15.39 | Fisker | Don't know about that |
| 19:15.57 | Stanzilla | only if you have that enabled |
| 19:16.08 | znf | I do |
| 19:16.26 | znf | meh, only worked once |
| 19:17.09 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 19:21.47 | Stanzilla | I just tested it again and it didnt work anymore |
| 19:21.52 | Stanzilla | maybe they disabeld itbecause people complained |
| 19:26.02 | Fisker | They did |
| 19:26.07 | Fisker | It says in the article |
| 19:26.31 | Fisker | Might be that the service needs to contact Google to know not to do it though |
| 19:27.32 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 19:30.01 | Ressy | Megalon: It was funny.. Cairenn was giggling |
| 19:30.34 | Ressy | Hard to read out the cards from giggling/laughing |
| 19:30.39 | Cairenn | ? |
| 19:31.15 | Cairenn | Oh, CAH |
| 19:31.17 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 19:31.20 | Ressy | heh |
| 19:31.39 | Fisker | tacklehugs Cairenn |
| 19:31.53 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker then wanders back to the other channel |
| 19:34.11 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn in muh #wowace?! what's this |
| 19:34.26 | Cairenn | pokes Gnarfoz |
| 19:34.27 | Gnarfoz | <3 |
| 19:34.30 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:35.03 | Gnarfoz | Phixion: 3717 on "1080p extreme" |
| 19:35.49 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: sec |
| 19:36.08 | Phixion | only ogl here |
| 19:38.15 | Gnarfoz | don't ogl me bro |
| 19:41.13 | Phixion | :< |
| 19:42.28 | Gnarfoz | 3088 on 1080p extreme w/ openGL, but it's drastically worse |
| 19:42.40 | Gnarfoz | has stuttering and almost 10fps less minfps |
| 19:43.00 | znf | hmmm, let's check prices on GPUs |
| 19:43.24 | Phixion | 2.6k here, ancient drivers ;_; |
| 19:43.53 | Gnarfoz | there's probably newer drivers for mine as well |
| 19:46.41 | znf | >xau 1870 ron to eur |
| 19:46.43 | Catal1na | 1870.00 ron = 412.90 eur |
| 19:46.55 | znf | yeah, 413⬠for a GTX 1070 :-( |
| 19:48.00 | Gnarfoz | ok "VR minimum" (Vive) is too easy. 10000 points, which is the end of the scale. :p |
| 19:49.00 | nebula | eh, you can get 1070s for ~350⬠now |
| 19:50.29 | znf | not in Romania |
| 19:50.47 | znf | also, that's the cheapest I found, by PNY |
| 19:56.20 | znf | >wolf days since 17th march |
| 19:56.22 | Catal1na | Input: days since Friday, March 17, 2017 |
| 19:56.23 | Catal1na | Result: 26 days |
| 19:57.16 | znf | So my parcel has been in the country for 26 days |
| 19:57.24 | znf | Damn Romanian postal services |
| 19:57.43 | Gnarfoz | 9560 on "1080p high", although that's clearly a lie since it's filling my screen and my screen is 1920x1200! |
| 19:59.06 | Gnarfoz | I should adjust my score by 11.11111% to compensate |
| 20:00.01 | znf | Maybe it renders just 1080p regardless of your screen size? |
| 20:01.23 | Gnarfoz | where's muh letterboxing? |
| 20:03.09 | Gnarfoz | also, you're not wrong. since it's actually fullscreen mode, it does change the resolution. although not to the correct one if I select 720p, which is what I did last |
| 20:03.15 | Gnarfoz | it goes to 1280x960 there |
| 20:03.27 | Gnarfoz | but apparently it does switch to 1920x1080 |
| 20:15.25 | znf | well, my monitor switches to 1680x1050 if I try to do 1600x900\ |
| 20:15.50 | znf | Stanzilla, what's KB4015583 and why do I need it if I'm on the creators update? |
| 20:17.22 | nevcairiel | its just this weeks update rollup, isnt it |
| 20:17.33 | Stanzilla | I think so |
| 20:18.36 | znf | I see |
| 20:22.44 | Stanzilla | still on 8.1 |
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| 20:34.34 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: http://i.imgur.com/jcIPJFs.png u wot m8? |
| 20:34.57 | Gnarfoz | are there geforce drivers for 10 1704 or wtf ^^ |
| 20:34.57 | nevcairiel | which is your version of windows |
| 20:35.02 | Gnarfoz | 1607 |
| 20:35.15 | Stanzilla | that driver is a bit broken on creators anyway |
| 20:35.16 | nevcairiel | get to 1703 already! |
| 20:35.17 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:35.20 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 20:35.23 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 20:35.28 | Gnarfoz | I guess it downloaded the wrong one |
| 20:35.33 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 20:35.33 | Gnarfoz | says win8 win7 in the filename |
| 20:35.38 | nevcairiel | well there you go |
| 20:35.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:35.42 | Stanzilla | http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/381.65/381.65-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe |
| 20:35.46 | Gnarfoz | ty |
| 20:35.53 | Stanzilla | like I said |
| 20:35.58 | Stanzilla | lots of problems with it |
| 20:36.05 | Stanzilla | but only on creators because wddm 2.2 |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | is people downloading the wrong driver a problem? |
| 20:36.13 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:36.18 | Gnarfoz | the website used to auto-detect the correct OS |
| 20:36.25 | Gnarfoz | or remember what I picked last |
| 20:36.31 | Phixion | :o |
| 20:36.32 | nevcairiel | the autodetect never worked for me |
| 20:36.33 | Phixion | hackers |
| 20:36.35 | Gnarfoz | btw, is there no non-international version anymore? |
| 20:36.44 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 20:36.55 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: most issues i have read about are people too dumb to use the color controls |
| 20:37.05 | Gnarfoz | those used to be smaller :D |
| 20:37.06 | nevcairiel | because they added some new oens for HDR |
| 20:37.18 | Stanzilla | https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=580290&page=1 |
| 20:37.24 | Gnarfoz | but I guess I don't really care when even this 415 MB monster takes just seconds to download |
| 20:38.58 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: first issue i read, is RTSS being broken on creators ... where to the actual driver issues start? :) |
| 20:39.17 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 20:39.38 | Stanzilla | there is a lot of OT in that thread |
| 20:40.11 | nevcairiel | in any case, I didn't notice any problems |
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| 21:33.58 | znf | I never understood why displays have to support HDR |
| 21:35.41 | nevcairiel | various reasons |
| 21:36.15 | nevcairiel | most importantly, ordinary displays dont have any extra brightness (or fine-grained brightness control) to even make use of any higher dynamic range in the first place |
| 21:37.38 | nevcairiel | secondly, it uses a different transfer function to be able to properly express the necessary details in the limited bits we have - the ordinary gamma based transfer SDR uses isn't suited for that, so the TV needs to understand that |
| 21:37.52 | nevcairiel | otherwise you would have serious problems with the limited bitdepth of video |
| 21:38.02 | nevcairiel | as too many bits are reserved for thigns we wouldnt need all the bits in |
| 21:39.34 | nevcairiel | (and third, but not quite crucial, HDR uses an expanded color gamut, although HDR PC displays probably don't do that as PC content would otherwise look weird) |
| 21:42.13 | znf | interesting, thanks |
| 21:44.23 | znf | so, basically, aside from the technical hardware limitations, it's basically down to "we've been sending video signals in a crappy way"? |
| 21:44.58 | znf | ie: if we have done 4:4:4 from the beggining, it wouldn't be such an issue, right? |
| 21:45.19 | nevcairiel | no, thats unrelated |
| 21:45.57 | nevcairiel | the transfer change makes sense, and its the reason why we use gamma based transfer in the first place |
| 21:46.23 | nevcairiel | we dont see detail in dark and bright equally |
| 21:46.35 | nevcairiel | so using a linear relation between bits and output brightness doesnt make sense |
| 21:46.38 | nevcairiel | hence: gamma |
| 21:46.44 | nevcairiel | which is an exponential curve |
| 21:47.04 | znf | oh, ok |
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| 21:47.31 | nevcairiel | with HDR the brightness goes to over 9000 though |
| 21:47.37 | nevcairiel | (well te chnically to 10000) :P |
| 21:47.51 | nevcairiel | so the transfer needs to be adjusted to not waste so much space in these super-bright areas |
| 21:49.03 | nevcairiel | (also why HDR should at least use 10-bits, 8 doesn't cut it anymore) |
| 21:53.20 | nevcairiel | (for reference, ordinary SD video uses a brightness of about 120 nits, HDR is technically able to go to 10000 nits, although more realistic are 1000) |
| 21:53.26 | nevcairiel | SDR video* |
| 21:53.30 | nevcairiel | not to be confused with the resolution |
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