IRC log for #wowace on 20150514

00:41.46Reporecount: 03Resike * r1311  (10 files in 2 directories): - Initial module updates.
00:41.46Repo- Some code cleanup.
00:41.46Repo- Some other smaller fixes.
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00:44.12Reporecount: 03resike 04v6.1.2c release * r1312 : Tagging as v6.1.2c release
01:03.01znf>Completing two Mythic-difficulty Warlords dungeons as a part of a quest during the event awards a Heroic Hellfire Citadel Raid cache.
01:03.03znfcarrot on a stick
01:22.33Megalonhttp://i.imgur.com/Iq1cvhR.jpg holy shit, how can you tattoo something in a language you don't know
01:23.17Megalonshe wanted "fuck cancer" and got "cock cancer" in italian
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04:32.15nebula169that ban wave, lol, bunch of guilds on our server lost 7-10 people, banned people that hadn't used a bot since mop
04:32.33nebula169when will people learn
04:33.09TorhalSo they're flagging people and not taking action for two years?
04:33.48nebula169yea, anyone with an account flagged since the last ban wave it seems
04:34.08Megalonbecause bot accounts now pay with tokens
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06:54.54quiescensmm, chrome seems to be good at javascript performance but feels like more of a resource hog than firefox these days, also loading images seems to be particularly slow
07:14.34Repoatlasloot-enhanced: 03lag123 04v8.00.00beta8_1 * r4331 : - beta 8_1
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08:12.54nevcairielznf: your tracking number shows in the tracking tool just fine. sometimes it takes a few hours from when they send you the code to it showing up
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08:51.20Reporaidbuffstatus: 03oscarucb * r717 Core.lua: fix missing death warning sounds for many specs
08:55.33Reporaidbuffstatus: 03oscarucb 046.1.5 * r718 : Tagging as 6.1.5
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10:13.02GnarfozI wonder if D3 is supposed to write "D3Debug.txt" on retail clients...
10:15.15nevcairielit has always done that, so shrug
10:37.36quiescenswhats wrong with outputting a debug file unless it contains something sensitive?
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10:38.06quiescensor well, unless it appends and ends up taking up gigabytes of space or something silly
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10:51.38Megalonwrites quiescensConsciousnessDebug.txt
10:51.43Megalonempty file, weird
10:54.08quiescens):
10:54.40Gnarfoznevcairiel: do you use rapid mode?
10:54.59nevcairielno
10:55.11nevcairieli got a BSOD once blaiming the rapid driver, turned it off, never looked back
11:00.04StanzillaI do, Gnarfoz
11:01.05Gnarfozapplying gaming forum logic, that means rapid mode is to blame
11:01.41nevcairielIf a BSOD manages to name an actual driver that just crashed, in 99% of all cases that is accurate information
11:02.15Gnarfozwhile true, that's not what I meant ^^
11:02.27GnarfozI meant the D3 "everything stops for a moment" stutters
11:02.32nevcairieloh
11:02.36Gnarfozwhich you rarely have, but I do (and Stan does)
11:02.48nevcairielthat was yesterday
11:02.51StanzillaI dont have it anymore since I reinstalled
11:02.53Gnarfoz(well, I don't think he said anything about their frequency)
11:02.54nevcairielhow can you expect me to link these two discussions
11:02.54StanzillaI think
11:02.57Stanzillahavent played that much either
11:03.13Gnarfozreinstalled what? Win? D3?
11:03.23Stanzillad3
11:03.27nevcairielI did a clean D3 install after casc rollout as well
11:03.29nevcairielnot sure if related
11:03.48Stanzillaas I already suspected casc, that seemed the most logical to do
11:03.48GnarfozI might have had this D3 install since D3v beta
11:03.49Gnarfoz;D
11:03.50Stanzillaand it worked
11:03.54Stanzillasame lol
11:04.08Stanzillasame with WoW, that install is from wrath I think
11:04.16Gnarfozanyway, I'm very confused that D3 does SO many disk accesses while playing
11:04.36StanzillaIn the great HDD crash of 2012 I had a backup of the wow folder on another disk
11:04.46Gnarfozdo they just mmap those files and don't care about anything else?
11:05.06nevcairieli did a clean wow install after WoD i think
11:05.15nevcairielwith fast internet its not like that takes long
11:05.20Stanzillaimo the client just sometimes takes to long to load an image file
11:05.25Gnarfozat worst, I'd expect it to grab everything necessary as soon as I (or the first player) enters a level
11:05.26Stanzillaand they dont cache everything
11:05.35Gnarfozlooks more like they don't cache *anything* tbh
11:05.36Gnarfoz:D
11:05.46Stanzillalikely only the current view + x yards
11:06.07Stanzillaand it also has server checks for terrain
11:06.13GnarfozI'm doing the worst thing
11:06.15Stanzillaif you disconnect (high ping)
11:06.18Stanzillaand run around
11:06.19GnarfozI'm changing multiple things at once
11:06.21Stanzillathe map stops loading
11:06.28Gnarfozso I'll never know which fixed it, if it fixes it :D
11:06.29nevcairielon a technical level, d3 is really old, even wow is much more advanced despite being an older game at its core .. can only hope they update it when they release a new xpac ... if they release a new xpac =p
11:06.32Stanzillaand you have like missing pieces in the ground
11:06.56Gnarfoznevcairiel: WoW is still WC3 at its core, can D3 reall be worse?
11:07.00Gnarfoz+y
11:07.10nevcairielGnarfoz: wow was  incrementally updated
11:07.11Gnarfozor wait, they upgraded the model format some time, didn't they?
11:07.24Gnarfozsure it was, but it's been in development since 1999?
11:07.25nevcairield3 is d3d9 only, etc.
11:07.27Stanzillain other news, can you guys log on to the ptr? I read that EU ppl have problems with that atm and I can't
11:07.53GnarfozI like that the oldest pictures about WoW I can dig up are from a press tour where everyone was still using CRTs :D
11:07.57nevcairielStanzilla: #112
11:08.05Stanzillathat is version mismatch?
11:08.07nevcairielyes
11:08.10Stanzillaalright then
11:08.22GnarfozStanzilla: empty realm list
11:08.23Stanzillalet's hope they fix that before raid test today
11:08.28nevcairielGnarfoz: i never played wow-live on a crt, just a few short days before wow went live, i got my first lcd :D
11:08.43nevcairielalthough i did play wow-beta on crt
11:08.57GnarfozI think my oldest screenshots are 1600x1200, from my old 19" CRT
11:09.14quiescensi had a crt for a while back in vanilla wow
11:09.26nevcairielnow that crt is at my parents house, i think my sister is using it, if my father didnt s teal it by now
11:09.35Gnarfozactually 1024x768? I wonder what screen that was on
11:09.39quiescensgot rid of all of them by now
11:09.44GnarfozI never had a screen with that res
11:09.49nevcairieli dont have any old screenshots anymore
11:09.49quiescens1024x768 was probably the most common 4:3
11:09.56quiescensin those days
11:09.57Gnarfozwell, maybe I was running 1024x768 on the 19" for moar perf
11:10.27GnarfozI upgraded a short while after starting WoW
11:10.45Gnarfoz2005-03-27 oldest screenshot \o/
11:11.03StanzillaI was about to ask why anyone would still use a CRT
11:11.03Gnarfozat Booty Bay, but I know I only swam down there from Westfall :D
11:11.13Stanzillathen I remembered that I'm the one with a CRT tv
11:11.17Gnarfozhaha
11:11.24Gnarfozwell, so am I, but I don't use it anyway
11:11.28Stanzillasame
11:11.28Gnarfoz(and it's not mine)
11:11.35Stanzillamine is huge and like 100kg
11:11.38quiescenshaving it doesn't count as using it
11:11.39quiescenso.o
11:11.42Stanzillaand I live in the second floor
11:11.44Stanzillaso yeah
11:11.47StanzillaDO NOT WANT
11:11.51quiescenspush it out the window
11:11.52Gnarfozmine is tiny and belongs to the apartment
11:12.11Gnarfozon 2005-04-08 I was still only level 30
11:12.15Stanzillaapartments come with tvs now?
11:12.15quiescensyour apartment owns things?
11:12.37Gnarfozwhatever möbliert means
11:12.55Gnarfozmy place has furniture in it
11:13.05Gnarfozowned by the landlord
11:13.11Megalonit's nice to have furniture
11:13.17Gnarfozi.e. it's not mine
11:13.34quiescensfor renting i could see furniture being part of it certainly
11:13.43quiescensbut often not including stuff like TVs
11:13.50Gnarfozyeah, it varies
11:15.20Gnarfozhm, D3 just 18 GB
11:15.24Gnarfozreinstall sounds sane
11:15.39Megalon13.2 gb
11:16.31GnarfozoO
11:17.01Megalon225 files ;S
11:17.14Stanzillathat's casc for you, mate
11:17.16Gnarfoz228
11:17.18Stanzillafresh install is 13.2
11:17.36Stanzilla218 files
11:17.59quiescensdid you just do a fresh install recently?
11:18.16Stanzillago to sleep quiescens
11:18.21quiescens):
11:18.31quiescensit was a fair question ):
11:19.35Stanzillano, because I already said that I reinstalled it ):
11:19.54Stanzillait's ok though, I still liek you
11:22.02Gnarfozthere's 8-core Atoms?
11:22.11Gnarfozwtf, I must have missed that
11:22.11Gnarfoz;D
11:22.14nebula169awww, just noticed they recent hero stats with this patch
11:22.15nebula169:(
11:22.48quiescensi'm not sure that was a complete sentence
11:22.54nebula169reset*
11:23.03quiescensoh that makes somewhat more sense
11:23.05nebula169it's past my bedtime :(
11:23.31quiescensgives nebula169 a blanket and pillow
11:23.57Stanzilladances with nebula169
11:32.32Stanzillanebula169: not all reset here though
11:32.45Stanzillajust the most x with hero x stuff
11:38.56nebula169take downs/deaths yea
11:39.08Gnarfozdo we have any Frenchies in here?
11:42.00Stanzillajerome
11:42.07Stanzillaadirelle
11:45.15nebula169been playing around with atom, would be nice if it didn't lock up for 20s when i tried to reposition tabs
11:46.17Gnarfozisn't Jerome born in Greece, grown up in Britain, living in Sweden? ;D (or something, in particular the first part is probably wrong)
11:46.29Gnarfoz~seen adirelle
11:46.32purladirelle <Adirelle@2a01:e35:2eb9:63c0:2826:24e4:f190:6c4e> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 126d 18h 42m 26s ago, saying: 'but it does a little more than that, so I'll just try itemscore for now'.
11:46.37Gnarfozoh and of course, bibi ;D
11:46.46Gnarfozhuh, he ded?
11:52.31Stanzillanebula169: using sublime tabs or default?
11:53.04nebula169sublime
11:53.53Stanzillamight be because why
11:53.57Stanzilladefault is fine
11:54.23nebula169also locks up when opening packages view
11:54.52Stanzillayeah
11:54.54Stanzillaaddons fault
11:55.09Stanzillait also triggers 30+ deprecation cop warnings :D
11:55.18nebula169i disabled the shit out of that
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12:00.34FiskerAtom bad
12:09.10Stanzillax86 > Atom
12:11.08FiskerHuh?
12:23.42Gnarfoztoo many multi-use terms
12:23.50quiescens?
12:23.56Gnarfozlets make an editor called x86_64 to completed the confusion
12:24.04quiescensoic
12:24.22znfcan I call it arm and only have it run on x64 ?
12:24.22GnarfozStanzilla: fresh install 244 files
12:24.33quiescensdelete some of them
12:24.59quiescensthey probably aren't all neccesary
12:34.11Stanzillanebula169: for Lua I think Xuerian's BetterLua for sublime is still better
12:34.16Stanzillanot sure if you have been using that
12:34.49quiescensnebula secretly uses edlin
12:35.09Stanzillavim
12:35.34quiescensnot edlin?
13:18.31Gnarfozhe uses ex
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13:46.41Gnarfozhow hard are the "ubers" you need to fight to make a Hellfire Amulet?
13:49.38nevcairieltrivial
14:08.31Gnarfozso crafting one is... trivial, too? or are any of the other steps hard
14:08.50Gnarfozor just annoying because it's a 4-step (?) process and no step has 100% drop rate
14:09.15quiescenseh
14:09.58znfisn't it 100% on drop chance on T6?
14:10.01znfor something like that?
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14:10.33quiescensits just annoying because its a multipart process and its hard to get a passive that is useful as well as an amulet that is worth using
14:11.11quiescensi don't think its 100% thoughs
14:11.27quiescenshmm
14:12.00quiescensthey made it so that if it drops for one person, it drops for everyone in the group
14:12.30nevcairielGnarfoz: just collecting the keys is the annoying process
14:12.34nevcairieleverything else is trivial
14:12.37quiescensso if you have a group farming them together its a bit less painful
14:12.40quiescensbut its not 100%
14:13.09nevcairieland you best have a full group
14:13.16nevcairieleveryone collects 4 keys of each
14:13.19nevcairielso you can make 4 amuletts
14:32.15Stanzillayup
14:32.23Stanzillacollecting the keys is the only t hing that sucks now
14:32.28Stanzillaeverything else is 100% drop
14:32.43Stanzillashould make the keys 100%, too. the effort to get a good one is still huge
14:32.51nevcairielyeah
14:33.10nevcairiellast season we built like 20 for our one DH, and they all still sucked
14:33.28nevcairielnot sure they tried again this season, probably not
14:33.36Stanzillayup
14:33.47Stanzillawould be another thing one COULD do if it wasnt that annoying
14:34.04nevcairielits not that its extremely annoying, its just so boring
14:34.37Stanzillathat, too
14:34.42StanzillaI never get act4 keys
14:34.53nevcairielit might be slightly more interesting if T6 wouldn't be so ridiculously easy that you brain-afk all of it
14:34.59nevcairielfor me it was act2 that never dropped
14:36.14pompywtb more bag space in d3! lol
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14:50.20Stanzillanebula169: did you conclude your atom experiments?
15:27.09sbStanzilla: there!
15:27.15Repobroker-garrison: 03smb 07master * 1.7.3-2-gbeaab02  (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
15:27.15Repobeaab02: change garrison loot detection to check lootSource = 10 (LOOT_SOURCE_GARRISON_CACHE from AlertFrames) instead of checking for resource loot + cache proximity
15:27.15Repo2920fdf: sorting from 1 to 11
15:27.41Stanzillacan finally delete my txt file
15:28.02Repobroker-garrison: 03smb 041.7.4 * dbd9010 /: [new tag] tagging as 1.7.4
15:28.04sbhad to change 2 lines %-)
15:28.44Stanzillalazy bum
15:29.05sbyup...
15:29.19sbneed to implement blacklist next
15:32.53Stanzillameh
15:33.48sbwhat?
15:34.15Stanzillacant think of a usecase for me
15:34.17Stanzillamostly because lazy
15:34.39sbdisable mine/garden
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15:58.49quiescensmoo
16:19.50Gnarfozanyone done public key warden farming? how do you usually deal with "two drops in different places at the same time"?
16:20.11Gnarfozsomeone has to go first, is there some kind of etiquette? or do you use banner? or something :D
16:28.39quiescenso.o
16:28.53quiescenswhat does that mean?
16:29.12quiescensare you saying people splitting up into different acts or something?
16:31.47Gnarfozyes, like act 1 bounty split farming
16:32.10Gnarfozgoes quite fast ^^
16:32.22Gnarfozbut a bit dumb when two are killed at the same time and have a drop
16:32.49quiescensisee
16:32.57nevcairielwe only did that in private groups, and just organized it then
16:32.58Stanzillapretty sad that they ruined split farming
16:33.05Gnarfozhow so?
16:33.08Stanzillanow farming rift keys is even more retarded
16:33.11Gnarfozseems to work well
16:33.30Stanzillayou dont get the key when you are not in the same area
16:33.31quiescensyou can do the funny thingy where you potal to town and then teleport to other person using map, then teleport back to your town using map and take your potal back to where you were
16:33.37nevcairielyou dont get the keys from the bounty when youre not there for the completion, iirc
16:33.42Stanzillayup
16:33.57Gnarfoz:o
16:34.09Stanzilla@rlinev: > Candy Crush Saga will be automatically installed for customers that upgrade to or download Windows 10 during the launch
16:34.09Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
16:34.09StanzillaWHAT. THE. HELL.
16:34.28quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
16:35.15nebula169eh, so they bundle in some popular app along with hearts and solitaire and shit
16:35.29nebula169doesn't mean you'll have to ever use it
16:35.51quiescenspong
16:36.49Stanzillanebula169: there is a mode certain apps come with that means they cant be uninstalled
16:37.00Stanzillaif that is one..
16:37.01nebula169so? point stands
16:37.19nebula169do you uninstall minesweeper when you install windows?
16:37.49Stanzillathat's not 3rd party
16:39.45nebula169not sure how that's relevant, have you ever used ms solitaire collection? sounds like it's just being included as a "microsoft casual game" or some such
16:40.27Stanzillameh
16:40.49StanzillaI just want to end up in a android samsung bloatware fest situation
16:41.24Stanzilla*don't .
16:41.51nebula169not sure how apps could be considered bloat, ie, they don't use resources unless you actually run them
16:41.54GnarfozSamsung's bloatware is first-party, though
16:41.54Gnarfoz:D
16:44.23Stanzillaif it ships as a systemapp (can't be removed) then it's bad, otherwise I can just uninstall it
16:44.26Stanzillaor cancel the download
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16:59.34Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13138 HellfireCitadel/Mannoroth.lua: Mannoroth: Last Felseeker changed to 30 yards.
17:00.21Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13139 Draenor/Kazzak.lua: Kazzak: add Mark of Kazzak.
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17:11.52Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13140  (10 files in 2 directories):
17:11.52RepoKromog: add off-by-default option to mark the grasping earth (hands) that picks up the tanks with skull & cross.
17:12.39Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13141 HellfireCitadel/Archimonde.lua: Archimonde: Import beta module.
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17:13.48RepoArchimonde: Rename module to prevent conflict with new Archimonde.
17:35.48Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13142  (4 files in 1 directory): HellfireCitadel: Change "spawning" messages to "spawned".
17:37.43Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude 04r13143-release * r13143 : Tagging as r13143-release
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18:37.16znfStanzilla: you have a Backpfeifengesicht
18:37.39Stanzillathat's a nice thing to say!
19:00.45StanzillaGnarfoz sb nevcairiel Fisker http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/14/the-play-music-web-interface-just-got-a-huge-material-design-update/
19:08.37GnarfozI hope that doesn't break Prime Player too much
19:09.21Gnarfozdefault collapsed navigation bar: horrible! :D
19:09.40Gnarfozand they put more stuff in it, so it needs a scrollbar now m(
19:10.55Gnarfoznotification icon is broken, claims I'm signed out, even though I just signed in through its own "sign in" link
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19:33.32Gnarfozworst of all
19:33.39Gnarfozthe playlist is some shitty floating card now
19:33.43Gnarfozinstead of its own page
19:33.44Gnarfozgrrr
19:36.57Stanzillahttps://play.google.com/music/listen#/artist/Alrk5grx3les42fnfcyyxmrvb7u/Cro
19:36.59Stanzilla\o/
19:42.46Gnarfozyeah... meh.
19:43.40Stanzillawhy does the icon not fill the whole space http://i.imgur.com/7tQp0O8.png
19:44.05Gnarfozwhy everything, really
19:44.16GnarfozI don't see how the page needed changing at all
19:44.40Gnarfozit's tons less usable now, trying so hard to look like an Android app >_>
19:45.03Gnarfoz(floaty playlist is the worst - I now have 3 vertical scrollbars!)
19:45.49Gnarfozfont sizes shrunk down, too, so much empty, unused space
19:46.03Gnarfozgrabs his Brüllbox
19:54.12Fisker2material4me Stanzilla
19:54.21Stanzilla3material5u
19:54.25FiskerIsn't it kind of like the app they showed on last years I/O?
19:59.50Stanzillait's porbbaly 1:1 the android app
19:59.54Stanzillausing their new framework
19:59.59Stanzillapolymer 2.0 or whatever
20:00.21Stanzillaor was it jack and jill + polymer
20:18.55pompyStanzilla: unknown artist
20:20.03Stanzillahe's german
20:21.20Gnarfozgreat, volume control doesn't work anymore
20:21.25Gnarfozgfj Google
20:21.39Stanzillawfm?
20:22.54Gnarfozthrough prime player
20:23.00Gnarfozwhich means I can use keyboard shortcuts
20:23.28Gnarfozprime player made the thing usable as a desktop player, now half of it doesn't work until the author fixes it because google made the site even worse! :D
20:23.57Gnarfozwtb total replacement for it
20:24.11Gnarfozsb: brush up your JS and get on that
20:24.16Stanzillaspotify.com? :D
20:24.54Gnarfoz+2€
20:25.29Gnarfozbut at least they have a desktop player, yeah
20:25.45Gnarfozre-watch Zodiac y/n
20:26.00Stanzilla-youtube key I guess
20:26.02Stanzillawhat is zodiac
20:26.27Gnarfoza movie
20:26.31Gnarfoz\o/
20:26.37Gnarfozwtb youtube key thing at all
20:27.31GnarfozIronii: what are you playing? ^^ (more d3 players here)
20:28.03Gnarfozugh, not even play/pause work, gnnnnn
20:28.38Ironiiseasonal dh and bard, but i only play when im really bored :D
20:31.02Gnarfozhehe
20:31.23GnarfozStanzilla: it has RDJ in it
20:31.43Gnarfozbut it also has Jake Gyllenhaal in it
20:32.44MysticalOSStanzilla, see my tweets? i just had some EU players test. they can post on US forums now. and I can post on EU forums
20:32.51MysticalOSforums are now global
20:32.51StanzillaOP
20:33.12Gnarfozsee? that's the kind of change that improves websites
20:34.49Stanzillanore merge everything but tech support
20:40.21Stanzilla*now
21:07.20*** join/#wowace Ressy (Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy)
21:22.15FiskerI crashed android Stanzilla
21:23.16Stanzillagz
21:24.46FiskerThanks
21:24.55FiskerToo many notifications
21:25.07FiskerIt was cool
21:25.17FiskerI could get the power menu but the screen was black
21:25.34FiskerSometimes I saw glimpses of the interface before blacking out again
22:44.47Stanzillawhat did you do Fisker
23:04.51znfis doing https://trueability.com/

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