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| 00:05.50 | oscarucb | idc if you reformat the database, but please preserve the custom list |
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| 00:35.30 | Torhal | oscarucb: The custom list is unaffected? |
| 00:37.38 | oscarucb | like I said in the ticket, upgrading from the old NPCscan to 5.2 cleared it, and then upgrading to 5.4 cleared it again |
| 00:38.39 | oscarucb | I didn't dig through the code, but I'm guessing the change to the Version field in the SV caused it to toss everything, where it should instead have some upgrade logic to preserve the settings |
| 00:40.01 | oscarucb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.01 | oscarucb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.02 | oscarucb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.25 | znf | Torhal, secretly make it so that when someone installs npcscan, it installs SilverDragon instead |
| 00:41.07 | Kemayo | Oh snap. |
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| 00:46.21 | Torhal | znf: How about fuck off? |
| 00:48.03 | Torhal | oscarucb: I've seen you be rabid about shit before, but seriously…"douchy"? I was about to go into a whole "You don't pay me to do this shit" rant until I saw that that ticket was done by someone who should know better. At any rate, since the migration code is killing things off anyway, I now have an excuse to completely redo things to a much saner system. |
| 00:49.24 | oscarucb | It's very frustrating to a user to spend lots of time entering settings, and then have them discarded without warning when they upgrade addon version |
| 00:49.34 | oscarucb | especially twice in one week |
| 00:50.04 | Torhal | I understand that, oscarucb…but phrasing your complaint as though I did this intentionally is pretty fucking "douchy" too. |
| 00:50.05 | Torhal | :P |
| 00:50.09 | oscarucb | I'm not saying it was intentional or anything, but expressing that the effect on the user was quite negative |
| 00:50.16 | znf | Torhal, why so mean? :( |
| 00:50.31 | Torhal | znf: Why so "Fuck _NPCScan"? |
| 00:50.44 | Torhal | I am just now starting to make the code not shite. |
| 00:50.59 | oscarucb | yea I don't envy cleaning up that mess, thats for sure |
| 00:51.28 | oscarucb | might also be a good idea to keep things as beta until you're sure it's solid |
| 00:51.33 | Torhal | I'm sorry it's killing SavedVariables, but I'm a bit relieved because I can now make it un-shitty without having to worry about migrations. |
| 00:51.41 | znf | so mean :( |
| 00:52.03 | Torhal | And you're the first person who has complained, so I'm assuming you're an "advanced" user (advanced being someone who doesn't just roll with it) |
| 00:52.04 | znf | I'm not "so fuck npcscan" :( |
| 00:52.12 | oscarucb | so instead of fixing the problem for the thousands who have not upgraded in the past week, your plan is to ensure its broken for everyone? |
| 00:52.13 | Torhal | [19:40:24] znf: Torhal, secretly make it so that when someone installs npcscan, it installs SilverDragon instead |
| 00:52.30 | oscarucb | why not add the few lines of code to copy the custom list? |
| 00:53.05 | Torhal | oscarucb: Yes. I can't fix the people who are already screwed, and I don't "get" the current system, so why not have a fresh start with a fresh project manager? |
| 00:53.26 | oscarucb | the other settings only take a moment to fix, but if you have a big custom list it can take a long time to track it all down again |
| 00:53.33 | Torhal | I've found at least four cases of "this, that, the_other_thing = nil" FFS |
| 00:53.37 | pompy | Parnic: https://www.facebook.com/borderlandsgame/posts/10151752394209081 cooomee on :) u guys arent Rockstar!! :P |
| 00:53.59 | Torhal | There are many things that just don't make a lick of sense/ |
| 00:54.24 | oscarucb | so change all that stuff, go nuts. I'm just requesting that you preserve this ONE setting. |
| 00:54.33 | Torhal | It's already being destroyed. |
| 00:54.39 | oscarucb | sigh |
| 00:54.52 | oscarucb | Yes, people who downloaded in the past week are screwed. |
| 00:54.55 | Torhal | And it's faster/easier for me to make the system sane than to figure out WHY it's broken and fix it. |
| 00:55.11 | Torhal | This is a one-time deal. |
| 00:55.12 | oscarucb | But everyone ELSE still has a valid custom list in their SV that can be preserved |
| 00:55.38 | Torhal | And I'll implement your other suggestion for making the custom stuff easier to manage. |
| 00:55.48 | Torhal | So it isn't a big deal AFAIAC. |
| 00:55.59 | oscarucb | that would certainly make it less annoying to have it wiped |
| 00:56.11 | oscarucb | but many mobs are not on those lists |
| 00:56.11 | Torhal | I have A Plan (™) |
| 00:56.25 | Kemayo | It does seem sort of weird to do it this way, instead of just making a new addon with a new name. |
| 00:56.31 | Torhal | oscarucb: Fuck those lists. Fuck everything about the old system. |
| 00:56.57 | oscarucb | I mean the lists like the one you added for Timeless Champion, which btw is missing a few |
| 00:57.10 | Torhal | Kemayo: I'm maintaining my market share. Not going to lie. But the end result is going to be leaps and bounds better that the shit I'm dealing with now. |
| 00:57.24 | Torhal | oscarucb: That's SLOKnightfall |
| 00:57.55 | oscarucb | so you plan to remove the prepopulated mob lists? |
| 00:59.32 | Torhal | oscarucb: Clone the repo and point me to the commit where that shit happened, and explain your issues..... |
| 01:00.22 | Torhal | I took this over three months ago, have had an extremely busy/draining work schedule since then…SLOKnightfall gave me the motivation to quit being a lazy-ass TV-show watcher and actually get back to hobby-coding. |
| 01:00.37 | Torhal | Especially when I see some of the shit he's done :D |
| 01:00.43 | Torhal | All kinds of "WAT" |
| 01:00.50 | Torhal | He's smart, though. |
| 01:00.55 | Kemayo | Yeah, there's nothing quite like crazy commits from a collaborator to motivate one. |
| 01:01.06 | Torhal | But some of his methods make me go "Uh, yeah…you COULD have..." |
| 01:02.18 | oscarucb | I'm pretty sure the code block I pasted above is what wipes the data, in combination with the commits that have changed DB_VERSION |
| 01:03.06 | oscarucb | _NPCScan.lua:849 |
| 01:03.15 | Torhal | oscarucb: Then give me a patch that actually fixes it. I'm drunk at the moment, and that change should have been structurally sound but considering what I was traslating from I may have missed something. |
| 01:03.46 | Torhal | He was comparing if one STRING was less than another regarding versions FFS. |
| 01:04.22 | oscarucb | the problem is not the comparison, its the action taken when it fails |
| 01:04.32 | oscarucb | ie "old data" => wipe everything |
| 01:04.39 | Torhal | if "5.2.1" < Options.Version then <-- WAT |
| 01:05.08 | Torhal | oscarucb: Oh, that's all on him. There was migration code before he decided to fuck with that shit. |
| 01:05.39 | Torhal | I'm happy he's doing what he's doing (for the most part) but I'll gladly slap him down if he's destroying shit for no reason other than "it's easier" |
| 01:05.52 | oscarucb | Like I said I'm not pointing fingers at any particular person, just making a user complaint about behavior |
| 01:05.54 | Torhal | I honestly thought I'd fucked something up. |
| 01:06.04 | Torhal | But I am NOT wiping shit on purpose. |
| 01:06.42 | Torhal | I've already had two PMs with him about "Why the hell are you deleting alpha versions?" |
| 01:07.15 | Torhal | First one resulted in "I know some people update from them and I messed something up" |
| 01:07.36 | Torhal | Second was "I didn't realize you'd pushed changes and I thought the packager just went nuts" |
| 01:07.42 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 01:07.55 | oscarucb | well, you are the manager, so you have the power to "fire" him |
| 01:08.14 | Torhal | Now he's actually answering comments with "This is an alpha. Use at your own risk" |
| 01:08.21 | Torhal | oscarucb: I realize that, but he isn't an idiot. |
| 01:08.39 | Torhal | He's just…repository-challenged. |
| 01:08.45 | Torhal | He's getting better! |
| 01:09.54 | Torhal | And some of his code changes, while they make me scratch my head, aren't completely fucked. He's just apparently learned programming completely from WoW AddOns. |
| 01:10.46 | Torhal | I have a completely irrational feeling that he'll see what I'm doing with the code and catch on |
| 01:11.56 | oscarucb | Well anyhow, I've passed on the information I had on the problem, do with it what you wish |
| 01:13.56 | Torhal | oscarucb: You could try to fix it... |
| 01:14.18 | Torhal | I changed the repository to Open a day or so ago. |
| 01:14.31 | Torhal | As I said, I'm drunk at the moment. |
| 01:14.48 | Torhal | So if you do fix it, your alphs version could Save the World (™) |
| 01:15.11 | Torhal | s/alphs/alphas/ |
| 01:15.18 | oscarucb | Given the state of the code and your reports of the dev interactions, I think I'd prefer to steer clear |
| 01:15.37 | Xuerian | yeah, it's enough hassle dealing with me :p |
| 01:16.07 | Torhal | oscarucb: The affected code should be easy to grok, and I'm pretty sure he's decided to stick with .Overlay since I'm heavily editing the main AddOn. |
| 01:16.30 | Torhal | And even if he hasn't? It's on him to merge that shit. |
| 01:16.39 | Torhal | So, by all means. |
| 01:17.20 | Torhal | oscarucb: Either you do it, or I'll make Xuerian do it by threatening to have Stanzilla lick his nipples. |
| 01:17.35 | oscarucb | sigh, I'll take a look |
| 01:17.40 | Xuerian | o_o; |
| 01:17.45 | Torhal | Or you can just wait until I nuke the whole thing from orbit. |
| 01:18.14 | Torhal | Xuerian: Sorry to use you in that manner, but he needed a harsh visualization. |
| 01:18.38 | Xuerian | tries to find a cup of coffee to hold in a shaky manner. |
| 01:19.24 | Torhal | Xuerian: Damn it. That was a perfect segue for "You're not wrong; you're just an asshole" |
| 01:20.05 | Xuerian | :P |
| 01:21.03 | Torhal | oscarucb: Would I be a complete asshole if I were to tell you to fix it in the code before I actually did anoything with it? :D |
| 01:21.13 | Torhal | hides behind Xuerian. |
| 01:21.31 | Xuerian | Torhal: You're a monster when you're drunk. |
| 01:21.52 | Torhal | s/monster when you're// |
| 01:21.59 | Torhal | Oh, wait…I fucked that up. |
| 01:22.01 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:22.17 | Stanzilla | dafuq |
| 01:22.26 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Stuff! And things. |
| 01:30.21 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 01:31.10 | Torhal | Stanzilla: spotify:album:0vf3fKamMi3yfjApyZaAE1 |
| 01:31.27 | Stanzilla | megadeth |
| 01:36.22 | Stanzilla | more liek megadeaf |
| 01:36.23 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 01:52.12 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z14-release-1-ga92c62a Modules/ (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Monitor: Support new Currency event format (User patch) |
| 01:52.23 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 04z14a-release * b0d4ce3 /: [new tag] Monitor: Support new currency event format (User patch) |
| 01:52.25 | Xuerian | Aaand with the checkbox ticked |
| 01:55.36 | Repo | npcscan: 03oscarucb 07master * 5.4.0.4-9-ga5f9b37 _NPCScan.lua: [+1 commit] ticket 21: impl. proper DB upgrade for custom list |
| 01:55.41 | oscarucb | ^ Torhal |
| 01:57.06 | Torhal | oscarucb: Danke. Can't verify it but I'm sure it's ffine. |
| 01:57.45 | oscarucb | saw many things in the code that made my eyes bleed, but I confined my changes to the relevant lines |
| 01:59.02 | Torhal | oscarucb: Go back to a commit before I touched it. Then tell me the state of your eyes. |
| 01:59.28 | oscarucb | oh, I know it was bad |
| 02:00.03 | Torhal | Most of the reason I'd been putting off updating this bitch was "I'm burned out right now" |
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| 02:00.32 | Torhal | The rest was "I don't want to deal with why he needs such a convoluted update process at this point in time" |
| 02:00.57 | Torhal | Now that I've dived in head-first? I am pretty sure most of it is completely unnecessary. |
| 02:01.48 | Torhal | "I know! I'll use FIVE non-standard Python libraries…and a LOCALLY PATCHED version of Routes!" |
| 02:02.04 | Torhal | dies a bit every time he thinks of that. |
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| 02:24.59 | MysticalOS | Torhal, yes fix these overlays, he has some that aren't even in right place at all, clearly he didn't pull the data from wowhead or wowdb, at least not with any accuracy |
| 02:25.27 | MysticalOS | Gu'chi the Swarmbringer is off by like 50 yards |
| 02:31.14 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: fix wim |
| 02:31.46 | Torhal | MysticalOS: E-mail me. I'll e-mail YOU with the instructions for how Saiket did this shit. If you're going to bitch about it every week, you can at least be the guy who uses the old tools to update it properly until I negate the necessity. |
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| 09:46.25 | Repo | Add a "count-duration" display for aura texts so that I can throw out GridStatus_Hots (CPU killer @ Norushen) |
| 09:46.25 | Repo | Also found some oopses in the code that I marked with XXX |
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| 09:59.49 | Repo | 8acd4ec: Added some options to filter out some (de)buffs in combat. |
| 09:59.49 | Repo | 7e0c897: Fixed aura resizing of single units when buffs or debuffs are disabled (maximum number = 0). |
| 09:59.49 | Repo | a799430: Fix an issue with TipTop when tooltips are disabled. |
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| 13:33.01 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 13:34.12 | quiescens | o/ |
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| 15:43.33 | Stanzilla | some day i have to leave #wowuidev |
| 15:43.38 | Stanzilla | amount of retardness is too high |
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| 15:57.29 | Repo | npcscan-overlay: 03SLOKnightfall 07master * v5.4.0.2 _NPCScan.Overlay.lua: [+1 commit] disabled minimap button until option to disable can be added. |
| 15:57.30 | Repo | npcscan-overlay: 03SLOKnightfall 04v5.4.0.2 * bc6d3e7 /: [new tag] Tagging as v5.4.0.2 for changes |
| 16:07.55 | EthanCentaurai | I left months ago |
| 16:12.56 | EthanCentaurai | Repo is slow |
| 16:23.47 | EthanCentaurai | kagaro, any luck with the miner? |
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| 17:19.35 | wink | how old are college freshmen? |
| 17:19.44 | wink | 17? 18? 19? |
| 17:22.17 | Brybry | 18 to 19 typically but can be anywhere from 12 to 90 |
| 17:23.31 | Brybry | at least in the us, in other countries it can be different |
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| 18:18.04 | Timmeh | Torhal: /window 11 |
| 18:18.07 | Timmeh | whut -.- |
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| 20:23.46 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/10/12/breaking-nexus-5-bares-all-in-leaked-crystal-clear-7-minute-hd-video/ |
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| 22:25.30 | Stanzilla | test |
| 22:25.33 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 22:57.47 | Repo | npcscan: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.0.4-10-g1a01ad7 _NPCScan.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket #22: Added six NPC IDs to NPC_FACTION |
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| 23:47.17 | Repo | ora3: 03oscarucb * r677 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: |
| 23:47.17 | Repo | add a hidden option to control realm stripping from character names in messages |
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| 23:50.20 | nebula169 | oscarucb: have you tested the group loot in flex thing? i always forget to ask for lead |
| 23:51.53 | oscarucb | I'm pretty sure it worked in the flex I did this week, but I didn't pay close attention |
| 23:52.04 | oscarucb | I'll look more carefully on Tues |
| 23:52.19 | oscarucb | ty for fixing that |
| 23:53.15 | oscarucb | are you planning to tag a release soon? |