| 00:00.02 | jnwhiteh | then you're testing th wrong thing |
| 00:00.12 | jnwhiteh | are you clicking on a unit frame? |
| 00:00.19 | oscarucb | hey - anyone know what's up with the wowace packager? It's been stuck for nearly 12 hrs |
| 00:00.25 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: No. |
| 00:00.39 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 00:00.44 | jnwhiteh | I see what you're saying |
| 00:00.50 | jnwhiteh | the key is using a button not a key |
| 00:00.58 | jnwhiteh | well I think the behavior makes sense |
| 00:01.04 | jnwhiteh | although the other would as well |
| 00:01.24 | jnwhiteh | what would you like instead? |
| 00:02.32 | Shefki | nm I see what's going on. I see the difference. |
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| 00:03.01 | jnwhiteh | either friend/enemy needs to be mutually exclusive with global, or this is the correct behavior. |
| 00:03.22 | Shefki | I'm not arguing that the behavior is incorrect. |
| 00:03.33 | Shefki | I'm just trying to figure out what is unique about the hovercast that it doesn't work. |
| 00:04.08 | jnwhiteh | for right now, completely exclude friend/enemy from your testing |
| 00:04.10 | jnwhiteh | if that helps. |
| 00:04.27 | jnwhiteh | they're confusing as they are .. because te implementation was done in an older version of the system.. and its a bit out of place right now. |
| 00:04.30 | jnwhiteh | although I wrote it |
| 00:05.05 | Repo | 10easy-button: 03ulic * r14 EasyButton.lua: Default to assigned to player |
| 00:05.13 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Ok so I've got HT set to alt+Leftclick with Default and global set. |
| 00:05.19 | Shefki | It works on those pet frames. |
| 00:05.22 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:05.30 | jnwhiteh | because of 'default' |
| 00:05.34 | jnwhiteh | global doesn't matter in that case |
| 00:07.00 | jnwhiteh | or rather, actually the global binding is the one that's being invoked |
| 00:07.05 | jnwhiteh | either way, whats next =) |
| 00:07.40 | jnwhiteh | cause i'm headed to bed in a bit |
| 00:07.42 | jnwhiteh | but would like to help |
| 00:09.27 | Shefki | Just trying to understand how this works so I can trace the problem down. But as it exists it's pretty difficult to pull apart. Not really your fault it's largely difficult to pull apart becuase of what you had to do to make this work. |
| 00:10.39 | jnwhiteh | it shouldn't be all that difficult |
| 00:10.44 | jnwhiteh | would it help if I explain? |
| 00:10.53 | Shefki | Sure. |
| 00:11.36 | jnwhiteh | There are two types of bindings.. 'frame' bindings and 'global' bindings. The global bindings are accomplished through a global button that has attrbutes set, and SetBindingClick() to make it work |
| 00:11.50 | jnwhiteh | both hovercast and global bindings are 'global', the rest are frame bindings |
| 00:11.52 | sunder | how do i get the number of elements in a table? |
| 00:12.02 | Shefki | sunder: What type of elements? |
| 00:12.11 | sunder | all elements, im using it like an array |
| 00:12.11 | nebula169 | if its indexed #table |
| 00:12.16 | jnwhiteh | ALL global bindings are given a fake button name to trigger.. so they are all 'key bindings' |
| 00:12.25 | Shefki | If you're using it like an array then #table will do what you want. |
| 00:12.28 | nebula169 | if its keyed, you'd have to iterate through it with a counter |
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| 00:12.51 | sunder | anything special i need to do to use it like an array? |
| 00:12.56 | sunder | foo = {} |
| 00:13.15 | sunder | foo[#foo] = bar? |
| 00:13.25 | jnwhiteh | there are two snippets that are run on a frame |
| 00:13.30 | nebula169 | foo[#foo+1] = bar |
| 00:13.50 | sunder | if its empty, #foo = 0? |
| 00:13.55 | nebula169 | yes |
| 00:14.01 | jnwhiteh | Clique.header:GetAttribute("setup_clicks") and Clique.header:GetAttribute("setup_onenter") |
| 00:14.09 | jnwhiteh | the first sets the ACTION ATTRIBUTES |
| 00:14.17 | jnwhiteh | the second sets the BindingOverrides |
| 00:14.20 | sunder | so foo[#foo] sets the 0th element to bar? |
| 00:14.29 | sunder | doesnt +1 skip the 0th element? |
| 00:14.30 | jnwhiteh | and that is really it, it's quite simple actually |
| 00:14.36 | nebula169 | lua arrays start at 1 |
| 00:14.41 | sunder | fail. |
| 00:14.45 | sunder | thanks |
| 00:15.27 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: does that all make sense? |
| 00:15.31 | jnwhiteh | or is your question in some other area? |
| 00:17.03 | Shefki | What I don't really understand is why my unit frames have anything to do with a global binding. |
| 00:17.30 | jnwhiteh | give me one sec |
| 00:17.34 | jnwhiteh | can you tell me how to reproduce this? |
| 00:17.48 | jnwhiteh | rather rapidly? |
| 00:17.54 | jnwhiteh | i'll see what I can do before I go to bed quick |
| 00:18.08 | Shefki | Install PB4, get in a group with someone with a pet. |
| 00:18.13 | Shefki | Make a binding for hovercast. |
| 00:18.20 | jnwhiteh | are you EU? |
| 00:18.21 | Shefki | The hovercast binding won't work on the Party Pet Frames. |
| 00:18.26 | Shefki | US. |
| 00:18.31 | jnwhiteh | damnit.. anyone EU with a pet? |
| 00:19.21 | Wobin | Shefki: pft, who heals pets nowadays? =) |
| 00:19.23 | Shefki | PB implements pet frames as a separate GroupHeader and then uses unitsuffix to get the pet. |
| 00:20.12 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: the ONLY bind set it's in it hovercast? |
| 00:20.42 | jnwhiteh | set the binding to 'hovercast' and 'default' and I suspect it will work properly. |
| 00:20.45 | jnwhiteh | i'm fairly certain of that, actually. |
| 00:21.12 | Shefki | default + friend + hovercast is what the user was using. |
| 00:21.19 | jnwhiteh | just use default/hovercast |
| 00:21.21 | jnwhiteh | does it work? |
| 00:21.34 | Shefki | default+hovercast works on other frames, not the pet frames. |
| 00:21.53 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 00:21.58 | jnwhiteh | a hovercast binding uses CliqueSABButton for the SetBindingClick() |
| 00:22.03 | jnwhiteh | so the SAB is getting "mouseover" as te unit |
| 00:22.12 | jnwhiteh | so the issue is in the resolution of the "mouseover" unit |
| 00:22.14 | jnwhiteh | which we cannot fix |
| 00:22.18 | jnwhiteh | and will not likely ever be fixed |
| 00:22.24 | jnwhiteh | so the user needs to come up wiht a simpler set of click bindings. |
| 00:22.29 | jnwhiteh | its nothing wrong with your unit frames |
| 00:22.43 | jnwhiteh | its just the use of usesuffix or useparent combined with hovercast/global bindings |
| 00:22.56 | Shefki | Just hovercast doesn't work for any frames, but I'm guessing that is expected. |
| 00:23.04 | jnwhiteh | it will |
| 00:23.11 | jnwhiteh | just don't use mouse clicks |
| 00:23.14 | jnwhiteh | those are eaten by the frame |
| 00:23.19 | jnwhiteh | hovercast is really designed for KEYS not clicks. |
| 00:23.21 | Shefki | Ahh ok |
| 00:23.29 | jnwhiteh | its all very subtle |
| 00:23.37 | jnwhiteh | but I'm restricted in what I can make work were. |
| 00:23.42 | jnwhiteh | can you link the ticket |
| 00:23.47 | jnwhiteh | so I can ask the user what they are trying to do |
| 00:23.51 | jnwhiteh | likely they are WAY overcomplicating things |
| 00:24.01 | Shefki | Just hovercast works with key bindings. |
| 00:24.06 | Shefki | On all the frames. |
| 00:24.17 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 00:24.20 | jnwhiteh | that's curious |
| 00:24.37 | Shefki | And I think we're using useparent yeah. |
| 00:24.49 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.54 | jnwhiteh | ensure there's not an entry for this spell there |
| 00:25.43 | sunder | is this valid: for i=1,#self.foo do |
| 00:25.52 | jnwhiteh | sunder: ye |
| 00:26.05 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: this may be a simple bug I can fix. |
| 00:26.18 | jnwhiteh | if a.) there's no entry for te spell you're listing in that attribute and b.) it works with key bindings |
| 00:26.38 | jnwhiteh | then the problem is going to be in the block on line 435 |
| 00:26.45 | jnwhiteh | probably in the GetBindingPrefixSuffix() |
| 00:26.50 | Shefki | http://paste.wowace.com/2852/ |
| 00:26.58 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:27.03 | Shefki | No entry. |
| 00:27.20 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.39 | jnwhiteh | then activate the hovercast KEY binding |
| 00:27.41 | jnwhiteh | note the result |
| 00:27.47 | jnwhiteh | change the binding to be alt-leftclick again |
| 00:27.49 | jnwhiteh | do it |
| 00:27.49 | Shefki | table: 0x63e0bc48 cliquebuttonZ false |
| 00:27.51 | jnwhiteh | note the result |
| 00:28.23 | Shefki | No result if it's Alt+LeftClick |
| 00:28.29 | jnwhiteh | No result? |
| 00:28.33 | jnwhiteh | even when you do it in the 3d world? |
| 00:28.50 | Shefki | 3d world: table: 0x63e0bc48 cliquemousealt1 false |
| 00:28.54 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:29.01 | jnwhiteh | then /dump CliqueSABButton.setup |
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| 00:29.07 | jnwhiteh | and /dump CliqueSABButton.setbinds |
| 00:29.14 | jnwhiteh | that shoudl give me all the information I need, I hope. |
| 00:29.32 | jnwhiteh | I should make a button to generate this info for me and put it into a text box =) |
| 00:30.10 | Shefki | http://paste.wowace.com/2853/ |
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| 00:30.36 | Shefki | self:SetBindingClick(true, "ALT-BUTTON1", self, "cliquemousealt1"); |
| 00:30.38 | Shefki | ^ setbinds |
| 00:30.48 | Repo | 10broker_healbot: 03oscarucb * r16 Broker_HealBot.lua: add a current skin indicator to the tooltip |
| 00:30.55 | Shefki | And btw /dump clips part of the stuff so I'm using /run print() |
| 00:31.05 | jnwhiteh | k,sorry |
| 00:31.13 | Shefki | dump also doesn't like \n's |
| 00:31.25 | jnwhiteh | that all looks to be in order to me. |
| 00:31.42 | jnwhiteh | so using alt-leftclick on a unit in the 3-d world works |
| 00:31.48 | jnwhiteh | but using it on a unit frame does not, is that correct? |
| 00:31.51 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 00:31.56 | jnwhiteh | or does it work on ALL frames, except the pet one? |
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| 00:32.19 | Shefki | Nope it doesn't work for any frames when it's just hovercast. |
| 00:32.34 | jnwhiteh | then blizz must be eating the click |
| 00:32.37 | jnwhiteh | tho I'm not quite sure why |
| 00:33.13 | jnwhiteh | can you point me to the ticket |
| 00:33.16 | jnwhiteh | i'll try to respond to the user |
| 00:33.25 | Shefki | Doesn't work on the Blizzard frames either. |
| 00:33.26 | jnwhiteh | and if you want to email me any oddities you see, do so |
| 00:33.26 | Shefki | http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/859-bug-unable-to-clique-click-on-pet-frames-w-some-classes/ |
| 00:33.31 | jnwhiteh | and I'll do my best to get it fixed. |
| 00:33.51 | jnwhiteh | To be clear tho, 'default' as the click-set.. and you can click on the pet frames and heal the pets, correct? |
| 00:34.04 | jnwhiteh | also 'hovercast' with a KEY binding also works.. correct? |
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| 00:34.25 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: defualt+hovercast with a click binding works for all frames but the pet frames. |
| 00:34.46 | jnwhiteh | does it work with just 'default? |
| 00:34.51 | jnwhiteh | with a click binding? |
| 00:34.54 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Just default with click binding works for all frames including the pets. |
| 00:35.17 | jnwhiteh | do you have a button3? |
| 00:35.28 | jnwhiteh | mind testing that to see if it falls under 'click' or 'key'? |
| 00:36.06 | Shefki | Hang on let me finish all the other tests: |
| 00:36.27 | Shefki | default+hovercast with a key binding works on all frames but the pet ones. |
| 00:36.45 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 00:36.48 | Shefki | Just hovercast with a keybinding works on all frames including the pet one. |
| 00:36.57 | Repo | 10skadahealabsorbs: 03curttasker * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added support for 4.0.1 Holy Paladin and Priest absorbs. |
| 00:37.12 | jnwhiteh | what about default with a keybinding |
| 00:38.12 | Shefki | Just default with a key binding works for all frames as well. |
| 00:39.00 | jnwhiteh | I'm compiling here |
| 00:39.00 | jnwhiteh | http://paste.wowace.com/2854/ |
| 00:39.01 | Shefki | button3 meaning middle mouse? |
| 00:39.04 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 00:39.11 | jnwhiteh | or hell, button5 would be better |
| 00:39.19 | Shefki | Don't think I can do button5. |
| 00:39.25 | jnwhiteh | np |
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| 00:39.50 | Shefki | My extra mouse buttons beyond left, right middle are all bound to key presses. |
| 00:39.55 | jnwhiteh | ah gotcha |
| 00:39.57 | Shefki | And rebinding them means firing up windows. |
| 00:39.58 | jnwhiteh | no worries then. |
| 00:40.06 | Repo | 10skadahealabsorbs: 03curttasker 041.4 * r15 : Added support for 4.0.1 Holy Paladin and Priest shields. |
| 00:40.23 | jnwhiteh | could you do a hovercast only with alt-button1 |
| 00:40.26 | jnwhiteh | to round out the tests? |
| 00:40.57 | Shefki | hovercast + button3 doesn't work on any frames. |
| 00:41.09 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't surprise me. |
| 00:41.17 | Wobin | I've never had hovercast work with mousebindings |
| 00:41.21 | jnwhiteh | hovercast with alt-button1 should not work either |
| 00:41.33 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: you would/could with high mouse buttons, but that's basically correct |
| 00:41.38 | Shefki | default + button3 works for all frames. |
| 00:41.43 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: 4 and 5, eh? |
| 00:42.12 | Wobin | that'll be nice for exorcism procs |
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| 00:42.37 | Shefki | hovercast + alt+left does not work on any frame. |
| 00:43.00 | Shefki | So basically I should tell my user that he shouldn't be using hovercast with click bindings. |
| 00:43.04 | jnwhiteh | I'm working on that |
| 00:43.06 | jnwhiteh | but basically, yes |
| 00:43.12 | jnwhiteh | he's WAY overcomplicating things |
| 00:43.14 | jnwhiteh | but let me explain that. |
| 00:43.23 | jnwhiteh | does default + 'z' work on any frames? |
| 00:43.26 | jnwhiteh | oh nvm |
| 00:43.28 | jnwhiteh | you tested that |
| 00:43.50 | Repo | 10skadahealabsorbs: 03curttasker * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added support for 4.0.1 Holy Paladin and Priest shields. |
| 00:43.56 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Yeah all of them. |
| 00:44.29 | jnwhiteh | its 'wrong' that default+hovercast breaks on the pet frames |
| 00:44.40 | jnwhiteh | I'm just not 100% sure how that is happening right now. |
| 00:44.52 | jnwhiteh | the default binding should be activated, since the button swallows the input |
| 00:45.13 | jnwhiteh | so something is not 100% right there |
| 00:45.21 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: in theory i could test this with a pet header for my own pet that uses useparent |
| 00:45.26 | jnwhiteh | that would be a pita for me to construct |
| 00:45.31 | jnwhiteh | so if you have any of that, that would be useful to me. |
| 00:46.04 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Actually you don't need to be in a party. |
| 00:46.07 | Shefki | Now that I thinka bout it. |
| 00:46.14 | Shefki | You can test this with a level 1 hunter. |
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| 00:46.21 | jnwhiteh | with pitbull? |
| 00:46.26 | Shefki | yeah. |
| 00:46.28 | Shefki | Hang on. |
| 00:46.37 | jnwhiteh | i won't be able to look at this tonight |
| 00:46.44 | jnwhiteh | but I don't see why default+hovercast stops working for those frames |
| 00:46.50 | Shefki | Whatever, I've spent enough time on this already. :) |
| 00:46.56 | jnwhiteh | the default binding shoudl override the hovercast binding the second that you enter the unit frame |
| 00:47.01 | jnwhiteh | that's what setoverridebinding does =) |
| 00:47.06 | jnwhiteh | not with clicks, obviously |
| 00:47.08 | jnwhiteh | but with keys |
| 00:47.23 | jnwhiteh | thank you for the useparent info |
| 00:47.28 | jnwhiteh | that will probably be useful. |
| 00:47.37 | jnwhiteh | it was the key of what was being done different. |
| 00:48.06 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Ok. |
| 00:48.11 | Wobin | http://i.imgur.com/0OKtK.jpg |
| 00:48.24 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Load up pitbull4, /pb Groups, Party Pets, Include Player's Pet. |
| 00:48.39 | Shefki | That'll turn on your own pet in the Party Pet group. |
| 00:48.50 | Shefki | I just made a Draenei Hunter. |
| 00:48.59 | Shefki | Bound Gift of the Naru to z |
| 00:49.02 | Shefki | With default and hovercast. |
| 00:49.08 | Shefki | Doesn't work on the pet. |
| 00:49.24 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 00:49.31 | jnwhiteh | is this a third frame |
| 00:49.34 | jnwhiteh | or just the pet frame? |
| 00:49.40 | jnwhiteh | i only have two frames after making that change |
| 00:50.00 | Shefki | You'll probably have to move stuff around it's probably piled up in the middle. |
| 00:50.06 | Shefki | Yes the defaults suck. |
| 00:50.37 | jnwhiteh | party pets is not showing for me. |
| 00:50.56 | jnwhiteh | got it |
| 00:50.57 | jnwhiteh | show solo |
| 00:51.09 | Shefki | Ahh yeah forgot about that. |
| 00:51.19 | Shefki | I probably already have that turned on for this sort of testing. |
| 00:51.58 | Repo | 10gridstatusphysicalmitigation: 03curttasker * r10 GridStatusPhysicalMitigation.toc: 4.0.1 fix |
| 00:52.01 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:52.05 | jnwhiteh | i can repro the minimal condition |
| 00:52.17 | jnwhiteh | which is z -> gift; default/hovercast |
| 00:52.21 | jnwhiteh | it is never activated |
| 00:52.32 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 00:53.42 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 00:54.51 | jnwhiteh | okay here's the interesting thing. |
| 00:54.56 | jnwhiteh | the FRAME binding is activated |
| 00:55.07 | jnwhiteh | and the correct 'button' is passed as well |
| 00:55.33 | Shefki | ... |
| 00:55.47 | jnwhiteh | so I'm at a 100% loss here |
| 00:55.59 | jnwhiteh | why the presence of a hovercast binding breaks the default binding |
| 00:56.01 | jnwhiteh | only.. it doesn't. |
| 00:56.56 | Shefki | So here's how are fames are setup... |
| 00:57.33 | Shefki | We use eithehr SecureGroupPetHeaderTemplate or SecureGroupHeaderTemplate |
| 00:57.35 | jnwhiteh | I don't think it is your frames |
| 00:57.41 | jnwhiteh | but I need to go to bed. |
| 00:57.47 | jnwhiteh | this should work properly, however. |
| 00:57.51 | Wobin | Frame. I wanna live forever... I wanna learn how to fly... |
| 00:57.55 | Shefki | userOwnerUnit is always set. |
| 00:58.00 | jnwhiteh | the default binding overrides the hovercast binding |
| 00:58.08 | jnwhiteh | and the correct button is invoked with the correct attributes |
| 00:58.09 | Shefki | and for the pet frames we set unitsuffix |
| 00:58.17 | jnwhiteh | but for some reason the unit resolution goes wonky. |
| 00:58.17 | Shefki | Blizzard bug? |
| 00:58.21 | jnwhiteh | I don'tknow |
| 00:58.26 | jnwhiteh | it works if hovercast isn't there. |
| 00:58.29 | jnwhiteh | on that frame |
| 00:58.40 | Shefki | Hovercast users mouseover for the unit right? |
| 00:58.45 | Shefki | uses* |
| 00:58.56 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 00:58.59 | jnwhiteh | and tat works |
| 00:59.02 | jnwhiteh | hovercast+z works |
| 00:59.05 | jnwhiteh | default+z works |
| 00:59.09 | jnwhiteh | default+hovercast+z fails |
| 00:59.11 | Shefki | *nod* |
| 00:59.19 | jnwhiteh | but the correct binding runs |
| 00:59.22 | jnwhiteh | and the correct button is passed |
| 00:59.27 | jnwhiteh | on the correct frame |
| 00:59.39 | jnwhiteh | so on the partypetframes, it gets clicked with cliquebuttonZ |
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| 00:59.40 | Shefki | Ok I'm gonna close out my ticket and point the user back towards you and tell him that he likely can workarouund this. |
| 00:59.51 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:59.54 | Shefki | Interesting you can workaround the problem using a macro and /cast [@mouseover] Whatever. |
| 00:59.56 | jnwhiteh | apologize on my behalf for te runaround |
| 00:59.58 | Shefki | That works. |
| 00:59.58 | jnwhiteh | this is really difficult. |
| 01:00.29 | jnwhiteh | maybe the conflicting override bindings is the issue? |
| 01:00.43 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 01:00.44 | jnwhiteh | maybe that is. |
| 01:00.46 | jnwhiteh | that's it. |
| 01:00.50 | jnwhiteh | I'm using SetBindingClick |
| 01:00.52 | jnwhiteh | in snippets |
| 01:01.01 | Shefki | ok I lied. |
| 01:01.04 | Shefki | Macro doesn't work either. |
| 01:01.05 | jnwhiteh | perhaps there's something wrong in the secure templates code |
| 01:01.05 | Shefki | :( |
| 01:01.17 | jnwhiteh | hrm? |
| 01:01.19 | jnwhiteh | what do you mean |
| 01:01.21 | jnwhiteh | a clique macro |
| 01:01.25 | jnwhiteh | or an actionbar macro? |
| 01:01.25 | Shefki | Yeah. |
| 01:01.30 | jnwhiteh | yeah it wouldn't. |
| 01:01.36 | jnwhiteh | or that doesn't surprise me. |
| 01:01.49 | Shefki | He could get the behavior he likely wants with a global binding and a macro though. |
| 01:02.00 | Shefki | Global binding + /cast [@mouseover] Whatever |
| 01:02.06 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 01:02.07 | Shefki | That should reproduce what he's trying to do. |
| 01:02.09 | jnwhiteh | tho if e wants that |
| 01:02.13 | jnwhiteh | just plain 'hovercast' shoudl work |
| 01:02.16 | jnwhiteh | as long as he's not using a mouse button |
| 01:02.24 | Shefki | Well he had friend set. |
| 01:02.34 | jnwhiteh | blargh. |
| 01:02.35 | Shefki | So Global binding + /cast [@mouseover,friend] Whatever |
| 01:02.37 | jnwhiteh | he should drop friend/enemy |
| 01:02.39 | jnwhiteh | yea |
| 01:02.41 | Shefki | err help |
| 01:02.41 | jnwhiteh | who freaking knows yeahh |
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| 01:03.02 | Repo | 10tankspotter (experimental): 03AsaAyers * r0 / (2 files in 1 directory): First public version of TankSpotter. |
| 01:03.06 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Anyway thanks for your time. |
| 01:03.12 | Shefki | Go to bed. |
| 01:03.12 | jnwhiteh | sorry for wasting yours. |
| 01:03.13 | Shefki | :) |
| 01:03.14 | jnwhiteh | so tired now |
| 01:03.31 | Shefki | Meh this is a pretty weird problem. |
| 01:05.32 | jnwhiteh | indeed it is |
| 01:05.33 | jnwhiteh | okay, sleeptime. |
| 01:05.43 | jnwhiteh | sorry for all the problems =/ |
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| 01:13.21 | Primer | Anyone know if there's a call to get role? |
| 01:13.32 | Primer | I'd like to make a macro to mark tanks |
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| 01:13.42 | Shefki | Primer: GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 01:13.49 | Primer | thanks |
| 01:13.53 | Shefki | return 10 or 12 from that. |
| 01:14.01 | Shefki | Depending on which "role" you're talking about. |
| 01:14.08 | Shefki | 10 will be MAINTANK or MAINASSIST |
| 01:14.17 | Shefki | 12 will be TANK, DAMAGER, HEALER or NONE |
| 01:15.10 | misfit^ | Quick question on gathermate2, if someone has a sec. |
| 01:15.26 | Primer | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetRaidRosterInfo <-- guess that hasn't been updated |
| 01:15.43 | Shefki | a) It's wowwiki and you probably want to use wowpedia.org |
| 01:15.49 | Shefki | b) Use wowprogramming. |
| 01:16.24 | Primer | heh, I made the mistake of using google... |
| 01:16.32 | Primer | that was the first result |
| 01:16.58 | Primer | wowprogramming is the same |
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| 01:18.49 | Shefki | Probably not updated then. |
| 01:19.24 | Primer | same for wowpedia |
| 01:22.47 | Primer | I'll just wait til someone gets on and ask them to group with me to test |
| 01:23.57 | Shefki | Primer: I've tested this before you can be pretty confident in what I told you. :) |
| 01:24.14 | Primer | You've never steered me wrong before :) |
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| 01:26.48 | Repo | 10tankspotter (experimental): 03AsaAyers * r1 Core.lua: Added a check to prevent attempting to use a dead tank. If any players die or 'unghost' it will update the macros (after combat). |
| 01:27.03 | Sorha | Anyone have an idea why enabling button fascade makes the cooldown spirels on my WatchFrameItemButtonTemplate buttons not show? |
| 01:28.36 | Slayman | Sorha: the BF template is crap and does not provide a proper CD Model? |
| 01:29.38 | Sorha | Wonderful >.< Aaa well now to chase down why BF gives me a nil error clicking into my button group settings first time >.> |
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| 01:35.41 | Repo | 685f4bd: - A 'new-version' detection mechanism has been implemented. - New option: "New version alerts" - Enhanced version display information in 'About dialog' - New locals to translate! |
| 01:35.42 | Repo | 593d94a: - Hopefully last fix to the 'About' dialog (class colors could be wrong due to a forgotten cache) |
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| 01:49.43 | Archarodim | arhh the pakager is clogged again :/ |
| 01:51.49 | starlon | first to smell it dealt it |
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| 01:53.31 | Shefki | How fast does a fully laden Trent 900 engine go? Answer: It doesn't go. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AD2IR20101114 |
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| 02:20.50 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tankspotter/. TankSpotter. AsaAyers (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:21.16 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_tradeskillbarker/. broker_tradeskillbarker. EvilGrinUK (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 02:45.04 | Repo | 10syllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * 2cf9f46 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 02:45.05 | Repo | 2cf9f46: Trainers are sorted by reputation, then zone, then name. The cost per reputation is displayed. Most of the heavy lifting is done I think; all that remains are extra options and better colours.graphics. |
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| 03:50.41 | pompy | OSError: [Errno 24] Too many open files ... booo |
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| 05:00.50 | pompy | packager seems to have been fixed |
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| 05:05.32 | Kemayo | Woo |
| 05:06.15 | Kemayo | Yup, the one I was waiting for ran. |
| 05:17.07 | Repo | 10touhin (experimental): 03nebula169 * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): boot it up |
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| 05:21.10 | WillFM | Addon nooby here. I've noticed some addons have "!" at the biginning of the folder name, what is the reasoning for this, does it have to do in the order addons are loaded to make sure its the last one loaded? |
| 05:21.47 | doom0r | not last |
| 05:21.48 | doom0r | first |
| 05:21.49 | taleden | iirc it's the opposite; at least on windows the client seems to iterate the addon folders in alphabetic order, so the ! comes first |
| 05:21.57 | taleden | but it's not reliable |
| 05:22.13 | taleden | things like buggrabber do this in order to try to hook the API before other addons load and localize their own pointers |
| 05:22.23 | WillFM | Ahh, I see. |
| 05:22.49 | taleden | ideally if you have an addon that needs to load before another addon, you make it a dependency or optdep of the second one, but if you don't control the second one, the next best attempt is ! |
| 05:23.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:23.50 | Shirik | What does this have anything to do with whether or not you control the second one |
| 05:24.16 | Shirik | And furthermore, the ! trick is essentially useless now |
| 05:24.26 | taleden | if you didn't make the second one, you can't change its TOC to add an optdep |
| 05:24.27 | WillFM | Well, the thing is, theres an addon, i constently go in and have to modify to get it just how I want it, and I'm wondering what would be the best way to make a more permanite modification. as the particular addons is updated almost daily. I guess I could just install some sort of source control of some sort, and just make a patch file for my modifications. |
| 05:24.29 | Shirik | It's still done somewhat by convention but really it does nothing now |
| 05:24.50 | Shirik | taleden, I think what you said is backwards |
| 05:25.12 | taleden | if you're writing A, and you need it to load before B, you make B's toc have an optdep for A, yes? |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | yes, but that's not what you said |
| 05:25.35 | Shirik | "you make it a dependency or optdep of the second one, but if you don't control the second one..." |
| 05:25.36 | taleden | that's what I meant to say |
| 05:25.38 | taleden | maybe first/second was not clear |
| 05:25.52 | taleden | by second I meant the second one I mentioned, the other person's addon |
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| 05:26.04 | taleden | you make your (first) addon an optdep of their (second) addon |
| 05:26.07 | Shirik | then you have two different definitions of "second one" |
| 05:26.26 | taleden | yes, it was convoluted sentence, I apologize to the syntax gods and will sacrifice a goat :) |
| 05:26.27 | Shirik | if you make it a dependency of the second one, then "it" is the toc file you modify, not "the second one"'s toc file |
| 05:26.31 | taleden | but I think it is now clear what I meant |
| 05:26.33 | Shirik | please do so |
| 05:26.55 | doom0r | busts out the semantics scorecard |
| 05:26.55 | WillFM | XD |
| 05:28.10 | Repo | 10petattack: 03dhedbor * r5 PetAttack.lua: Fixed conflict with /petattack command. |
| 05:28.13 | WillFM | Anyone have any suggestions for my issue? |
| 05:28.30 | taleden | WillFM: do you need to do your tweaking before or after this other addon loads? |
| 05:29.28 | Gnarfoz | <+Shirik> And furthermore, the ! trick is essentially useless now < why would that be? are there any indication the windows client's behaviour has changed? |
| 05:29.34 | WillFM | Well, thats the thing I'm not quite sure, its changes how certain ui elements hook to other ui elements. |
| 05:29.35 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:29.41 | Shirik | the trick only ever worked on FAT32 |
| 05:29.46 | nebula169 | ^ |
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| 05:30.07 | taleden | when you change it by hand, what do you change? |
| 05:30.08 | Shirik | And by now nobody's on FAT32 anymore |
| 05:30.32 | Gnarfoz | that seems... different from what I know about it |
| 05:30.56 | taleden | I think the ! was an artifact of how FAT32 stored directory listings internally |
| 05:31.10 | WillFM | So I guess, in order to modify the elements, I'd need them to load first. |
| 05:31.11 | taleden | pretty sure the client just iterates directories in whatever order the underlying OS provides them, which in turn depends on the filesystem |
| 05:31.29 | taleden | WillFM: that seems reasonable, so then it should be easy enough; make your addon's TOC have an OptDep for the other addon |
| 05:31.38 | WillFM | Mk. |
| 05:31.51 | taleden | that ensures that the other addon always loads first, and your addon loads afterward |
| 05:32.03 | taleden | so whatever globals the other one provides should exist for you to hook/modify/whatever |
| 05:32.40 | Gnarfoz | taleden: why would ntfs not return them in alphabetical order? is it random chance that it does so for me? |
| 05:33.17 | Gnarfoz | !, +, A-Z, a-z |
| 05:33.22 | taleden | I dunno, maybe it does, but for example i know that wine in linux on an ext3 filesystem does not necessarily return them alphabetically |
| 05:33.33 | taleden | maybe ntfs does and then Shirik is wrong about it only working in fat32, I dunno :) |
| 05:33.41 | Gnarfoz | funnily enough, _ sits between A-Z & a-z |
| 05:33.51 | WillFM | I need to get my hands on a good LUA, guide/book for newbies. |
| 05:34.03 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: I'm pretty sure this has been proven |
| 05:34.11 | Gnarfoz | taleden: in emulation world, all bets are off ;p |
| 05:34.22 | Shirik | "Why would ntfs not return them in alphabetical order" why wouldn't they :) |
| 05:34.25 | taleden | but.. but.. wine is not an emulator! :P |
| 05:34.32 | Gnarfoz | thanks for taking the bait ;p |
| 05:34.40 | Wobin | Shirik: cause it'd be called fnst then? |
| 05:34.44 | taleden | didn't want to leave you hanging on such a nice setup |
| 05:34.55 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: I guess my FS is just extraordinarily... ordered, then |
| 05:35.28 | Gnarfoz | problem is, I wouldn't know how to provoke a different sorting :D |
| 05:35.44 | Shirik | Gnarfoz, from MSDN documentation |
| 05:35.49 | Shirik | This may or may not be the first file or directory that appears in a directory-listing application (such as the dir command) when given the same file name string pattern. This is because FindFirstFile does no sorting of the search results. For additional information, see FindNextFile. |
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| 05:36.04 | Shirik | This is the only way I know of to enumerate files in the Win32 API |
| 05:36.07 | Shirik | and it's how everyone does it |
| 05:36.13 | WillFM | You guys have any suggestions for good reading as far as WoWAPI+LUA goes? |
| 05:36.41 | Shirik | "The order in which the search returns the files, such as alphabetical order, is not guaranteed, and is dependent on the file system. If the data must be sorted, the application must do the ordering after obtaining all the results." |
| 05:36.44 | nebula169 | ~pil |
| 05:36.44 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 05:36.47 | nebula169 | ~wowprogramming |
| 05:36.48 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 05:36.51 | taleden | wowpedia.org has various wow API info and a few howtos for common stuff |
| 05:37.10 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: well, somebody is ordering, then, because I doubt these addon dirs could be in perfectly neat order :D |
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| 05:37.17 | Shirik | Well we know WoW isn't |
| 05:37.21 | Gnarfoz | how? |
| 05:37.27 | Shirik | because we would expect proper operation across all OSes then |
| 05:37.31 | taleden | because if it were, the trick would work in wine, which it doesn't :) |
| 05:37.32 | Gnarfoz | which would beg the question as to why the OSX client doesn't do it |
| 05:37.43 | Gnarfoz | so either MSDN, WoW, or you are wrong |
| 05:37.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 05:37.53 | Gnarfoz | (or any combination!) |
| 05:37.59 | WillFM | The newest version of wowprogramming hasn't been converted into an e-book the last time i checked =\ |
| 05:38.57 | Gnarfoz | ponders a way to mix up the order his addon dir is sorted "on disk" while going to bed |
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| 05:40.01 | Gnarfoz | I blame curse client, 7z and speedcommander, all of which I use to install/update addons. they have a pact going to always keep my addon dirs in alphabetical order on disk. :D |
| 05:40.30 | doom0r | Gnarfoz: what os? |
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| 06:52.12 | Shefki | Shirik: FYI OS X returns them in alpha order. |
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| 06:52.26 | Shirik | You can't prove that :) |
| 06:52.35 | Shirik | I will do further investigation |
| 06:52.36 | Shefki | Sure I can. |
| 06:52.44 | Shirik | how do you intend to prove it? |
| 06:53.06 | Shefki | I just did a readdir on several directories on my machine and it's always in alpha order. |
| 06:53.26 | Shefki | Unless you're going to argue that opendir and readdir sort, it returns them in alpha order. |
| 06:53.32 | Shefki | And I seriously doubt that sorts. |
| 06:53.50 | Shirik | I can't argue anything on OS X |
| 06:54.08 | Shirik | what I can argue is that no amount of emperical data can prove lack of randomness |
| 06:54.21 | Shirik | or any other problem |
| 06:54.49 | Shefki | No you're just being stuborn. |
| 06:55.01 | flickerstreak | opendir & readdir return directories in whatever order the filesystem stores them in. :p |
| 06:55.10 | Shirik | ^ |
| 06:55.18 | Shefki | And that's what I just tested. |
| 06:55.24 | flickerstreak | I wouldn't be surprised if most filesystems store them alphabetically |
| 06:55.31 | Shirik | That's what you think you just tested |
| 06:55.48 | Shirik | But to be quite honest we simply don't have enough data to know one way or another |
| 06:55.49 | Shefki | http://paste.wowace.com/2856/ |
| 06:55.51 | Shefki | THat's what I ran. |
| 06:56.16 | Shirik | and now you're making the assumption that PHP's readdir operates identically to POSIX's readdir |
| 06:56.23 | Shirik | there are a million variables here, that's all I'm saying |
| 06:56.23 | Shefki | THat isn't PHP it's perl. |
| 06:56.27 | Shirik | ok whatever |
| 06:56.38 | Shirik | I guess closedir should have given it away |
| 06:56.38 | Shefki | And I know Perl's readdir and opendir are just calling the POSIX one. |
| 06:56.40 | Shirik | I just saw the $ |
| 06:56.43 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:56.47 | Shirik | so that's one variable eliminated |
| 06:56.54 | Shirik | the next one is how the data was created in the first place |
| 06:57.14 | Shefki | If you want I can bother to write the C program to do it to satisfy you. |
| 06:57.25 | Shefki | This machine has existed for a long time. |
| 06:57.27 | Shirik | I don't see how writing a C program would alter the way the data was stored in the first place |
| 06:57.31 | Shefki | I've added and deleted addons over time. |
| 06:57.45 | Shefki | It's giving them in alphabetical order. |
| 06:57.53 | Shirik | You don't appear to be understanding what I'm saying |
| 06:57.57 | Shirik | I'm not saying it doesn't work like that |
| 06:58.05 | Shirik | I'm simply saying we don't have proof that it does |
| 06:58.19 | Shefki | I've tried it now on 3 machines. |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | You are basing the decision off emperical data |
| 06:58.32 | Shirik | I am basing it off reason |
| 06:58.43 | Shirik | The best way to do this would be to attach debuggers and see what's actually happening |
| 06:58.54 | Shefki | If it was random it's highly improbable that 3 different machines would have identical returns. |
| 06:59.06 | Shirik | It's not as far-fetched as you would think |
| 06:59.19 | Shirik | humans create patterns quite frequently even when there is no intent to |
| 06:59.27 | Shirik | there was a site that demonstrated it I wish I remember where it was |
| 06:59.31 | flickerstreak | readdir most certainly does not return directory entries in *random* order. It returns it in a sorted order defined by the filesystem, as specified in the man page. |
| 07:00.01 | flickerstreak | :sticks nose in: :p |
| 07:00.41 | Shefki | My man page doesn't say anything about that at all. |
| 07:00.51 | flickerstreak | man page for which language? |
| 07:00.53 | Shefki | The word sort doesn't even appear in the man page. |
| 07:00.58 | Shefki | man readdir |
| 07:01.01 | Shefki | As in the C version. |
| 07:01.15 | flickerstreak | http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/readdir.html |
| 07:01.20 | flickerstreak | that's the generic version |
| 07:01.36 | Shefki | That the UNIX specification man page. |
| 07:01.43 | Shefki | OS X uses GNU's libc. |
| 07:02.13 | Shefki | err I take that back, it's BSD's libc |
| 07:02.34 | flickerstreak | right |
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| 07:03.34 | flickerstreak | You're right, the OSX one makes no mention of ordering |
| 07:03.45 | flickerstreak | however, if it's posix-compliant.... lemme look it up |
| 07:04.10 | Shirik | the POSIX standard makes no mention of it |
| 07:04.14 | Shirik | which means it is undefined |
| 07:04.16 | Shefki | flickerstreak: POSIX may not specify that though. |
| 07:04.33 | Shirik | which means you cannot guarantee it is alphabetically ordered (and you can't guarantee it's not, either) |
| 07:04.35 | flickerstreak | Hmm, it specifies "ordered sequence" |
| 07:04.42 | Shirik | that's just terminology |
| 07:04.47 | Shefki | OS X is meets the UNIX standard now but just becuase that man page mentions it doesn't mean it is part of the spec either. |
| 07:04.48 | Shirik | they're just saying it's a list |
| 07:04.55 | flickerstreak | In theory, a filesystem could return it in last-modified sorting |
| 07:04.56 | Shirik | an enumerable set |
| 07:05.51 | flickerstreak | Now you've got me noodling on it, we use a couple oddball filesystems at work. |
| 07:06.49 | flickerstreak | In any case, if it's not specified to be sorted alphabetically, then technically you can't rely on it being sorted alphabetically. But, if in practice it always is... |
| 07:09.26 | Shefki | Shirik: As to your humans seeing patterns comment. Sure that's true. But I have a hard time believing 3 different machines with file systems produced in various methods with things being added/removed in an unorder way would consistently return things in alphabetical ordering if there wasn't a reason it was doing that. |
| 07:09.33 | nebula169 | shirik and shefki having a conversation is confusing, i thought shirik was talking to himself until I found the start of the conversation, lol |
| 07:10.11 | flickerstreak | I have a wowace project management question, if anyone on is available to answer |
| 07:10.39 | Shirik | Shefki: Sure, unless you're using some kind of tool to do it |
| 07:10.51 | flickerstreak | no, it's about project approvals |
| 07:10.55 | flickerstreak | err nvm |
| 07:11.49 | Shefki | I've checked various things different directories. Like my Projects directory which is just created in whatever order I started projects/checked out other things... |
| 07:11.58 | Shefki | I've certainly not done that in alphabetical order. |
| 07:12.44 | doom0r | does the filesystem in question have any sort of fragmentation or journal management? |
| 07:13.04 | Shefki | Every file system has fragmentation. It's just not a huge issue on some. |
| 07:13.05 | doom0r | certainly on ntfs on 7 that could be a reason why it appears to occur alpha |
| 07:13.11 | Shefki | And yes it's a journaled file system. |
| 07:13.26 | doom0r | i didn't ask if it had fragmentation |
| 07:13.36 | doom0r | frag or journal management |
| 07:13.40 | doom0r | either |
| 07:14.09 | Shefki | The file systems in question are HFS+ Journaled, case insensitive. |
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| 07:21.55 | Shefki | http://rixstep.com/2/20031102,00.shtml |
| 07:21.59 | Shefki | Interesting. |
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| 07:26.20 | doom0r | wonders at Shefki's definition of interesting |
| 07:26.21 | doom0r | ;x |
| 07:27.03 | Shefki | Well that document pretty much supports that HFS+ stores everything in alpha order. |
| 07:27.22 | Shefki | Since the node keys are the catalog node id concated with the filename. |
| 07:27.33 | Shefki | And the node id is the parent directory. |
| 07:27.52 | doom0r | it just seems as though apple attempts to do everything unique solely for patent/copyright reasons |
| 07:27.59 | doom0r | as no other explanation is usually possible |
| 07:28.57 | Shefki | Well in fairness HFS+ is just a modified version of HFS which we've had since the 80s. |
| 07:29.34 | doom0r | true, just why continue to mangle it away from anything else? |
| 07:30.10 | Shefki | They do have requirements that no other file system really supports. |
| 07:30.13 | Shefki | Like resource forks. |
| 07:30.41 | doom0r | well, working implementations |
| 07:30.55 | doom0r | they have* |
| 07:31.49 | Shefki | They do support UFS. Nobody uses it. |
| 07:32.44 | doom0r | right, just like that article mentions, you are just shotting yourself in the foot before attempting to walk ;x |
| 07:33.56 | doom0r | s/shotting/shooting |
| 07:34.01 | doom0r | and fail |
| 07:34.13 | Shefki | They were working toward ZFS support for OS X. |
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| 07:35.42 | sbu | morning |
| 07:35.42 | Shefki | Given the timing of that getting dropped I wonder if the Oracle purchase of Sun might not have had something to do with that. |
| 07:36.23 | Shefki | Apple has used Sun technology in the past. E.g. Open Firmware. |
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| 08:01.56 | mitch0 | morgen |
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| 08:08.03 | sbu | yea, morgen indeed :p |
| 08:11.41 | mitch0 | yay, 20 EUR donation received ;) |
| 08:12.39 | Humbedooh | ;o |
| 08:12.42 | Humbedooh | grats! |
| 08:12.46 | mitch0 | thanks ;_) |
| 08:13.00 | mitch0 | it's the second donation so far. first was 5 EUR afaik ;) |
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| 08:13.06 | mitch0 | hope it's a trend |
| 08:17.10 | Elkano | unfortunatly it's not :( |
| 08:17.24 | Elkano | though the highest I got so far was 50e iirc |
| 08:18.49 | doom0r | i saw an addon on wowi where the guy was asking for something like 20k US to pay his debts he accrued while spending the last several months working on some addon (which was not popular or special) |
| 08:19.44 | sbu | i need like 25k eur for a new car! |
| 08:20.54 | doom0r | needs US$5 so he can get lunch free |
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| 08:36.29 | Fisker | it isn't free doom0r |
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| 08:44.06 | doom0r | not much is =\ |
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| 10:14.48 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: ping. |
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| 10:36.01 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: I've found the bug.. |
| 10:36.06 | jnwhiteh | and its nothing either of us is doing, precisely. |
| 10:36.15 | jnwhiteh | just a bit of a confusing corner case. |
| 10:36.38 | haste | corner cases are always fun |
| 10:37.04 | jnwhiteh | haste: you'll be semi-interested |
| 10:37.23 | jnwhiteh | so what's happening is that when you use the group header, with the unit set to the parent unit and unitsuffix = "pet" |
| 10:37.50 | jnwhiteh | the SecureButton_GetModifiedUnit properly resolves to "mouseoverpet" when Clique is doing a hovercast, i.e. the unit is set explicitly to mouseover |
| 10:38.04 | jnwhiteh | the problem is.. the mouseover unit already includes resolution to the pet |
| 10:38.10 | jnwhiteh | so what you're getting is mouseoverpetpet |
| 10:38.41 | jnwhiteh | so basically I think we need a special case for 'mouseover' in SecureButton_GetModifiedUnit |
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| 10:40.16 | haste | sucks that you discovered that now |
| 10:40.21 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 10:40.55 | Kalroth | i wont tell anyone if you dont!§ |
| 10:41.12 | haste | what happens when you only use useparent? |
| 10:41.20 | haste | it resolves correctly? |
| 10:41.24 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 10:41.29 | jnwhiteh | it would cast the spell on te parent |
| 10:41.41 | jnwhiteh | you either need to not use useparent/usesuffix |
| 10:41.47 | jnwhiteh | or blizzard needs to fix the issue |
| 10:43.19 | haste | note what I said |
| 10:43.25 | haste | oh wait |
| 10:43.32 | Fisker | haste is a bug |
| 10:43.32 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 10:43.33 | haste | I didn't mention useparent-unit |
| 10:43.36 | Fisker | btw should i get a kinect haste ? |
| 10:43.40 | jnwhiteh | i'm talking useOwnerUnit |
| 10:43.41 | haste | y |
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| 10:43.46 | jnwhiteh | to be clear |
| 10:46.57 | Megalon | Fisker |
| 10:47.30 | Megalon | when will virtual chronic masturbator come out for kinect? |
| 10:47.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2979 / (26 files in 10 directories): |
| 10:47.58 | Repo | Converted the main data files to Windows style EOL characters, this should keep Notepad users happy :-) |
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| 11:02.06 | jnwhiteh | haste: I lied, that's not the issue =) |
| 11:02.13 | jnwhiteh | tho its close :P |
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| 11:14.10 | Slayman | curse needs a more alluring donation system |
| 11:14.13 | Slayman | really |
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| 11:25.34 | Brybry | "Donate and receive nudes of Fisker" |
| 11:27.17 | Kalroth | ! |
| 11:27.39 | doom0r | tmi Kalroth |
| 11:27.50 | Kalroth | not enough information! |
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| 11:35.00 | Slayman | showered and cleaned one feels a whole lot better about oneself, wouldn't you agree? ;-D |
| 11:35.31 | doom0r | no? |
| 11:35.31 | SunTsu | Slayman: if you add a nice shave: yes, absolutely |
| 11:36.28 | Slayman | mmh shaving, I should do that too, but my manly beard has no Chuck Norris Proportions yet so it's not urgent |
| 11:38.51 | Slayman | awesome I again have one of those IP adresses steam cannot compute as german |
| 11:39.50 | Slayman | My time's up gotta go to work. l8er! |
| 11:46.12 | Repo | 10malygosstacks: 03nebula169 * r26 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 11:46.13 | Repo | I don't remember rewriting this, but it seems like it still works >.> |
| 11:47.13 | mitch0 | ~seen kagaro |
| 11:47.20 | purl | kagaro is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 14h 59m 43s, last said: 'Pneumatus: that error should be fixed now'. |
| 11:47.21 | mitch0 | ~last kagaro |
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| 12:36.32 | kagaro | mitch0: if its quick i can talk for 5 mins befor ei leave for work |
| 12:41.24 | kagaro | nick kagaro|work|will-check-pm-on-return |
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| 12:51.34 | mitch0 | meh, guess I missed you again |
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| 13:31.32 | xanax` | hello |
| 13:32.10 | xanax` | i am looking for a simple addon that would display the name of players who target me |
| 13:32.15 | xanax` | does it exist ? |
| 13:34.35 | the-golem | not that i'm aware of. nor do i think it's possible. |
| 13:34.45 | xanax` | :-/ |
| 13:35.52 | nebula169 | could wave your hand around and see people's target if your tooltip addon show it, lol |
| 13:43.19 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 13:44.09 | Mirrormn | couldn't you try to make a cache of the names of people around you based on combat log messages or other events and then constantly scan their targets by name? |
| 13:44.32 | Mirrormn | no probably not |
| 13:44.37 | xanax` | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5463899713&sid=1 |
| 13:44.45 | xanax` | it seems some addons feature it |
| 13:44.50 | nebula169 | can't check UnitName.."target" or anything |
| 13:44.55 | xanax` | but there's no standalone addon to do it |
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| 13:45.12 | nebula169 | only mouseovertarget or raid/party tokens |
| 13:46.00 | Mirrormn | yar, nebula, that's what I realized |
| 13:46.10 | Mirrormn | there is no "UnitTarget" function |
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| 13:46.18 | nebula169 | can't even get the target of spell casts until they've hit ;[ |
| 13:52.33 | evl | shocking |
| 13:52.51 | evl | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_TARGET is one thing you can check |
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| 13:54.20 | Adirelle|work | I really should make a release and go on with v1.6... |
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| 14:01.24 | Slayman | what's cracking? any educated guesses on the release of 4.0.3/Shattering patch? |
| 14:01.58 | nebula169 | which, 4.0.3 or the shattering |
| 14:02.09 | Megalon | i mean by guessing you mean like reading that 40px headling on mmo-champion that says this week? |
| 14:02.12 | Megalon | derp |
| 14:02.16 | nebula169 | :p |
| 14:02.49 | nebula169 | 4.0.3a prolly hit on the 30th |
| 14:03.29 | Slayman | "the shattering" is what I mean |
| 14:04.22 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r739 .hgtags: Added tag 3.4.12 for changeset f3399a628ecc |
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| 14:06.32 | Megalon | shattering shmattering! |
| 14:06.55 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r740 Prat-3.0.toc: oops forgot to credit the creator of the new chatcopy icons |
| 14:08.54 | sylvanaar_work | where are all my changes hrm |
| 14:09.10 | mitch0 | hg ate it |
| 14:11.03 | sylvanaar_work | the packager just didnt build a few zips looks like |
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| 14:14.18 | nebula169 | it remembers the last time you asked it to "just build a few zips" |
| 14:15.29 | mitch0 | yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some "if author == sylvanaar then return end" snippets in there (adapt for actual language used for the packager implementation) |
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| 14:15.44 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 14:15.51 | sylvanaar_work | i believe it |
| 14:17.06 | sylvanaar_work | if user = sylvanaar then build(getAllZips()) |
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| 14:49.51 | Repo | 736f46a: New items: properly flag an brand new item in bags even if a copy of that item is already equipped. |
| 14:49.52 | Repo | 8b42f4b: Allow use GetDistinctItemIDs for item sets so we don't get lost by unique IDs in item links. |
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| 15:15.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7601 Bastion/Halfus.lua: remove whirlwind, add furious roar, add berserk |
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| 16:01.54 | Slayman | dang the work for today is about done and I have 3,5h more to stay here |
| 16:04.54 | mitch0 | code some addon |
| 16:08.20 | Slayman | I'm going to continue my self education in programming with lua for wow, I'm at chapter 6 i think. But it's hard for someone like me. Thankfully I have 2 AddOn Ideas in mind I'm trying to realize at some point in the future |
| 16:09.53 | syeren | Inception.720p.BluRay.x264-CROSSBOW |
| 16:10.11 | Slayman | seen the movie already, quite good actually |
| 16:10.28 | syeren | Great movie. |
| 16:11.04 | Slayman | debatable, but definitely worth the BluRay |
| 16:11.12 | Fisker | about time syeren |
| 16:11.23 | syeren | Leaked 4 minutes ago. |
| 16:11.29 | syeren | Downloading at 79MB/s |
| 16:11.30 | syeren | \o/ |
| 16:11.37 | SunTsu | syeren: I found it quite OK, really don't know what the fuzz is all about |
| 16:11.39 | Fisker | reported for piracy |
| 16:11.49 | syeren | Not on my machine ;) |
| 16:11.55 | syeren | I wish I could download that fast :( |
| 16:20.08 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/makemods/. MakeMods. Contiki (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 16:20.13 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/touhin/. Touhin. nebula169 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
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| 16:25.20 | SunTsu | @describe touhin |
| 16:25.22 | Repo | SunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/touhin/. Touhin. Visual loot monitor |
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| 16:39.41 | Slayman | Baldurs Gate 2 complete Edition at good old games, consider me intrigued |
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| 17:02.04 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v3.3.1-6-g76af63b modules/range.lua: [+1 commit] Fix up spell ids for range detection in the range fader. |
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| 17:14.54 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v3.3.1-7-gbef96f9 modules (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Use UNIT_CONNECTION to detect connect/disconnect events. |
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| 17:39.42 | durcyn | you're intrigued. |
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| 17:48.04 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v3.3.1-8-g35cc473 modules/range.lua: [+1 commit] Use UNIT_CONNECTION in range checker as well (not useful to poll range on offline people) |
| 17:48.21 | Shadowed | Ah so UNIT_CONNECTION does work I guess? |
| 17:49.02 | nevcairiel | yeah, kinda. You know this delay you get when you log off, and your char still stands around for quite some time .. it only fires when it vanishes |
| 17:49.51 | Shadowed | oh, that's not too surprising |
| 17:50.07 | nevcairiel | i figured that made people claim it doesnt work |
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| 17:54.07 | sbu | WTF pacific standard time |
| 17:54.16 | sbu | whats wrong with blizzard :o |
| 17:54.20 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 17:54.27 | nevcairiel | blizzard hq is in PST |
| 17:54.27 | sbu | Players will not be able to access Cataclysm expansion content prior to 12 a.m. PST, regardless of how they upgrade or what time zone they're located in. |
| 17:54.36 | nevcairiel | sbu: its different for the EU |
| 17:54.42 | nevcairiel | we have 0:00 CET |
| 17:54.51 | sbu | hm thats okay then |
| 17:54.55 | sbu | so no -2h russia time? |
| 17:54.58 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:55.02 | sbu | okay |
| 17:55.21 | Pneumatus | doesnt appear to be, unlike LK launch when we realised everything had gone live at like 9pm UK |
| 17:55.38 | nevcairiel | yeah, but they really didnt specify anything back then |
| 17:55.43 | nevcairiel | now they said it explicitly |
| 17:55.46 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 17:56.11 | nevcairiel | "The default UI Scale has been altered so it will be set at a 1:1 pixel/texel ratio. This will result in a smaller UI appearance for higher resolution monitors." |
| 17:56.17 | nevcairiel | they finally made it official ^ |
| 17:56.28 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 17:56.33 | Shadowed | isn't that good |
| 17:56.36 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 17:56.42 | nevcairiel | but its been in 4.0.1 already |
| 17:56.48 | nevcairiel | at least, i think it was |
| 17:56.53 | jnwhiteh | it wasn't in mine |
| 17:57.04 | Pneumatus | wtb Quartz options to anchor bars to bars so it doesnt take an hour to reposition all my bars :< |
| 17:57.08 | nevcairiel | maybe i'm thinking about the beta then |
| 17:57.18 | Pneumatus | yeh, they changed it on the beta |
| 17:57.25 | Pneumatus | either the most recent build, or the one before |
| 17:57.35 | nevcairiel | ui scale changes should not alter the position of your bars |
| 17:57.46 | Pneumatus | my bars all moved on beta :< |
| 17:58.00 | Pneumatus | i had to shove them all up+right |
| 17:58.20 | nevcairiel | maybe quartz still uses broken anchoring, i dont remember if i fixed it when i ported it to ace3 |
| 17:58.54 | Pneumatus | if they anchor to TOPLEFT or something, an increase in pixels for UI scale would put them in the wrong place, wouldnt it? |
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| 17:59.39 | nevcairiel | any fixed anchor is bad |
| 17:59.44 | Pneumatus | the sliders look like they anchor to CENTER though |
| 17:59.47 | nevcairiel | bartender should do fine with ui scale changes |
| 18:00.01 | nevcairiel | bars of course get smaller/bigger, but they should not move |
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| 18:01.17 | Pneumatus | actually though, nevcairiel, it could be because i've got 2 monitors |
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| 18:02.11 | Repo | 10broker_healbot: 03oscarucb 041.4 * r17 : Tagging as 1.4 |
| 18:02.14 | nevcairiel | how does that matter? |
| 18:02.21 | nevcairiel | unless you use some whacky ugly spanning mode |
| 18:03.09 | harl | something's hiding some of my tooltips, but only as long as i'm in a dungeon oO |
| 18:03.14 | Pneumatus | no, the X slider covers -2560 to 2560 though, when a single screen is actually only 1920 wide |
| 18:03.32 | nevcairiel | in quartz? i think thats intended |
| 18:03.56 | Pneumatus | let me compare beta to live, as i know i had to change them on beta anyway |
| 18:05.53 | Pneumatus | meh, i dunno, beta did something weird with ui scale anyway |
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| 18:11.05 | jnwhiteh | Does anyone know (roughly) when paypal disbursements for curse go out? |
| 18:11.18 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh start of month typically |
| 18:11.31 | Shadowed | I usually had mine within the first 4-5 days of am month |
| 18:11.56 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:12.05 | jnwhiteh | anyone willing give me a loan of some points |
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| 18:12.19 | jnwhiteh | I'd like to put in an order for $500 to help go towards my laptop |
| 18:12.29 | jnwhiteh | but won't have enough points until the start of the month |
| 18:12.35 | jnwhiteh | if not, i'll cope =) |
| 18:12.37 | sylvanaar_work | cant you buy it from amazon? |
| 18:12.50 | sylvanaar_work | you can in the us at least |
| 18:12.50 | jnwhiteh | not with the apple education discount |
| 18:12.53 | sylvanaar_work | oh |
| 18:13.45 | Shadowed | sure jnwhiteh, how much do you need |
| 18:14.10 | jnwhiteh | 2300 points would let me put in the order now |
| 18:14.18 | jnwhiteh | and i'd be able to pay it back at the start of the month |
| 18:14.22 | Shadowed | jnwhite on wowace? |
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| 18:14.31 | jnwhiteh | cladhaire, actually |
| 18:14.40 | Shadowed | done |
| 18:15.01 | Shadowed | no rush, I won't have enough points to hit 10k for another month or so anyway |
| 18:15.09 | jnwhiteh | thank you |
| 18:15.12 | Shadowed | np |
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| 18:15.51 | jnwhiteh | I'll get back in touch with you once I've got the points to give back. |
| 18:16.13 | Shadowed | as I said, no rush :p |
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| 18:54.29 | syeren | Shadowed, coming back to addon development?!?! |
| 18:55.09 | Shadowed | god no |
| 18:55.09 | syeren | nevcairiel, is there anyway to turn off 'borders' in BT4? |
| 18:55.17 | syeren | :( |
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| 18:55.30 | syeren | You're like at ckknight level of God for addons :< |
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| 19:02.47 | sylvanaar_work | i still miss SSPVP |
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| 19:03.24 | nevcairiel | syeren: what border |
| 19:04.33 | Humbedooh | you mean the button grid? |
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| 19:11.44 | syeren | nevcairiel, I'm not really sure to be honest ;p |
| 19:12.04 | syeren | In ButtonFacade you used to be able to remove the horrible 'equipped' coloring from buttons and so on. |
| 19:12.08 | nevcairiel | The border is a lie, there is no border |
| 19:12.23 | syeren | Then it got changed and now you can't, so SBF added an option to not include 'the border'. |
| 19:12.41 | syeren | And it seemed to work for SBF frames, but I can't seem to work out how to remove it on BT buttons :< |
| 19:12.44 | nevcairiel | oh that |
| 19:12.53 | nevcairiel | yeah there is no option for that |
| 19:13.16 | syeren | Oki :( |
| 19:15.01 | nevcairiel | I could probably add one though |
| 19:15.24 | nevcairiel | it would cost you 2 cookies |
| 19:16.55 | Slayman | 4chan: it makes my day! the dudes over there are completely bonkers I love 'em |
| 19:17.59 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles 04Tags * r47 : Tagging as Tags |
| 19:18.10 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles 04tags * r48 : Tagging as tags |
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| 19:20.22 | quiescens | o.o |
| 19:22.28 | Slayman | Burger King or McDo for dinner? |
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| 19:23.27 | Megalon | WIENER SCHNITZEL WITH SAURKRAUTS |
| 19:23.32 | quiescens | pizza |
| 19:25.10 | Slayman | Megalon: Schnitzel is not the best partner for Sauerkraut, Sauerkraut is perfect with mashed potatoes and Bratwurst :D |
| 19:25.25 | Megalon | meat |
| 19:25.30 | nevcairiel | seriously, schnitzel goes with frys |
| 19:25.32 | Megalon | meat is a good partner for everything |
| 19:25.47 | Megalon | bröselteppich mit hitlerbananen |
| 19:25.48 | Megalon | ! |
| 19:26.54 | Stanzilla | wth is that Megalon |
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| 19:27.24 | Primer | jawohl |
| 19:27.54 | Slayman | Stanzilla: he's just uttering what little german he speaks, me thinks |
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| 19:27.57 | Stanzilla | why does borderlands not have a minimap? :( |
| 19:28.16 | Stanzilla | Slayman: nah, he's austrian |
| 19:28.22 | Megalon | bröselteppich is a wiener schnitzel |
| 19:28.46 | Megalon | and hitlerbananen are french fries |
| 19:28.49 | Slayman | and since when can austrian ppl speak german? not even bavarians can speak it, let alone austrians |
| 19:28.58 | Stanzilla | hey i'm bavarian :( |
| 19:28.59 | Ackis | Parnic: did you participate in the chili cookoff? :P |
| 19:29.22 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: i'm sorry |
| 19:29.36 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: :p |
| 19:29.36 | Slayman | Stanzilla: CASE IN POINT! I'm out for now bbl |
| 19:29.39 | Megalon | me too stanzilla |
| 19:29.44 | Megalon | you are half-german |
| 19:29.45 | Stanzilla | orly |
| 19:29.56 | Megalon | i meant the i'm sorry part :P |
| 19:30.23 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:30.25 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 19:30.39 | Pneumatus | kagaro|work|will: 1x HeadCount2-1.0\RaidTracker.lua:1004: attempt to call method 'isPresent' (a nil value) |
| 19:30.44 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QrnwoO1-8A Ackis |
| 19:30.51 | nevcairiel | syeren: i build you an option, that will be 2 cookies please! |
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| 19:30.54 | Repo | 2883a56: removed a file thats nolonger there from babel fish. |
| 19:30.55 | Repo | 0df66f2: Added an option to hide the "Equipped" border inside the button. |
| 19:30.56 | Repo | a60dcf0: GC the config generation code after its been used. |
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| 19:36.01 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r315 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 19:36.02 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 19:36.10 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 19:36.21 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 19:36.42 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 19:36.42 | Fisker | why can't you stop me Ackis ? |
| 19:36.48 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 044.0-release6 * r316 : Weekly Tag - #6 |
| 19:36.52 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 044.0-release6 * r125 : Weekly Tag - #6 |
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| 19:52.28 | groktar | guy at work tripped over his headphones, unplugging them |
| 19:52.38 | groktar | laptob starting blasting some justin bieber |
| 19:53.11 | Primer | is he now killing himself? |
| 19:53.31 | groktar | i'm sure he'll want to by the end of the day |
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| 20:05.28 | Megalon | at least he is into girls |
| 20:05.40 | Megalon | that's better than being gay as berlusconi said |
| 20:05.51 | Repo | 10libactionbutton-1-0: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 0.6-4-g9130c79 LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Add a config option to overwrite the name of the binding for the button. |
| 20:06.34 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.4.13-7-g2f970dc ActionBar.lua: [+1 commit] Map buttons on bar1 back to the ACTIONBUTTON[1-12] bindings. |
| 20:06.52 | Stanzilla | yay for that, nevcairiel |
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| 20:07.50 | Niv | hehe |
| 20:08.03 | Niv | does that mean I get to rebind? :) |
| 20:08.16 | nevcairiel | it wont magically rebind though, when you changed it, you need to change it back. But you dont need to, the prevous bindings still work fine |
| 20:08.30 | nevcairiel | too much need in that sentence |
| 20:08.48 | nevcairiel | you can change it back, and it will still work fine, or keep it like it is now |
| 20:08.52 | nevcairiel | no rebinding required |
| 20:08.54 | Niv | k |
| 20:09.19 | nevcairiel | if you put your bindings directly on bartender bars, it just won't work without bartender, until you bind it again =P |
| 20:09.35 | nevcairiel | (this all only applys to bar1, there is no sane way to map the other bars properly) |
| 20:10.03 | nevcairiel | it also never did that :D |
| 20:10.17 | Megalon | that's a lot of bars you are mapping during the week nev |
| 20:10.29 | nevcairiel | gotta keep busy |
| 20:10.35 | nevcairiel | the beer wont drink itself |
| 20:10.43 | Megalon | how are your AA visits going |
| 20:10.59 | nevcairiel | psh, those losers? too afraid to drink a beer! |
| 20:11.14 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2981 / (3 files in 3 directories): - Blacksmithing Cata added |
| 20:11.15 | Repo | - Added Cata mounts and pets to main tables (still some reordering left to do) |
| 20:11.20 | Megalon | seems like you don't have a problem with alcohol |
| 20:11.24 | Megalon | only without |
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| 20:21.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2982 / (7 files in 6 directories): AB, AV converted |
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| 20:25.50 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Ohh what was the bug? |
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| 21:05.29 | orionshock | has anyone been having problems with CC3 ? |
| 21:06.59 | ulic | yes, login failures |
| 21:07.03 | ulic | yesterday at least. |
| 21:07.23 | haste | np: Tapage & Meander - [Etched in Salt] Oceanographic (5:42|flac) |
| 21:07.26 | haste | oh hi wrong key |
| 21:07.33 | haste | and channel, double combo! |
| 21:10.20 | orionshock | ulic, do u know off hand what ver of .net v4 uses ? |
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| 21:28.16 | ulic | orionshock: nope, cause I can't get it to run in linux/wine :) so I think that means 4 |
| 21:30.02 | syeren | nevcairiel, thanks :D |
| 21:31.46 | pompy | orionshock: 3.5 sp1 |
| 21:31.56 | Slayman | my ISP informed me there was going to be no internets from 8pm today to 6am tomorrow |
| 21:32.00 | Slayman | liar! |
| 21:32.44 | groktar | nibbles on Slayman's router |
| 21:33.10 | Slayman | bad Groktar! let go of the router you bad boy |
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| 21:33.29 | groktar | slobber |
| 21:33.54 | Slayman | throws a tennis ball above groktar |
| 21:33.57 | Slayman | fetch boy |
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| 21:35.18 | groktar | scampers |
| 21:35.27 | groktar | tries to pick up both the ball and router |
| 21:36.07 | Repo | 10wymbuffs: 03Wymsprocket * r10 DebuffCategories.lua: Removed another unnecessary log. |
| 21:38.42 | Repo | 10mob-spells: 03Maat * r85 MobSpells.lua: yeah, lets not spam for now |
| 21:39.01 | nevcairiel | for now? Lets not spam ever! |
| 21:39.22 | Caleb| | :=( |
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| 21:41.35 | sztanpet | is pb4-s rune bar broken or is it just me? |
| 21:42.40 | Slayman | phase 4 is going live? plot thickens |
| 21:43.07 | nevcairiel | going? its already! |
| 21:43.52 | nevcairiel | its the last phase though, unless they added something new that wasnt on the beta |
| 21:44.08 | Niv | is deathwing leveling zones yet? |
| 21:44.17 | sztanpet | naw |
| 21:44.21 | nevcairiel | oh right thats comign too |
| 21:44.23 | Niv | then it's not the last phase :) |
| 21:44.34 | Slayman | Well I was at work until 2 hours ago at which time I was watching "UP" while eating, before that (yesterday) there was no phase 4 going live |
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| 21:48.41 | Slayman | man I'm all excited about the improved WoW :D |
| 21:48.55 | Slayman | it'll be more of the same in the long run though! |
| 21:48.56 | sztanpet | arent we all |
| 21:48.59 | sztanpet | for a month |
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| 21:52.38 | Shefki | I'm not excitted, I'm ambivalent about anyting Blizzard does now. |
| 21:52.52 | Shefki | "We're going to nerf fun." "Meh" |
| 21:53.25 | Shefki | "We're implementing everything you've ever asked for." "Meh" |
| 21:54.03 | Shefki | "We're going to ship you your presale stuff we told you we'd ship nearly a month ago." "Meh" |
| 21:54.35 | Slayman | HOT DAMN cairne is swinging the totem pole like he's in a strip club awesome!!! |
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| 21:58.02 | groktar | vp of software dev has a user id of 0 |
| 21:58.10 | Slayman | while wearing hotpants of leather, I love that cow dude |
| 21:58.11 | groktar | causes some amazing problems |
| 21:58.12 | groktar | hehehe |
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| 22:06.46 | Slayman | even if I repeat myself, Hunter is one of the most fun classes in WoW imo |
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| 22:09.00 | Adirelle | can't get it, the sound seems reversed (left-right speaking) on the login page but is fine in-game... |
| 22:16.13 | Slayman | 5G for a nightmaretear craft? fuck you! |
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| 22:20.13 | Slayman | anyone done theorycrafting for lvl 80 BM hunter and mastery? I don't think it's a bad stat considering the dmg my pet does with 8mastery |
| 22:21.10 | selckin | it mathers not |
| 22:21.56 | Slayman | srsly not? *sadface* |
| 22:22.10 | sbu | maybe Caleb| knows :o |
| 22:23.08 | Caleb| | havent bothered with any theorycrafting for 80, 85 is so close, not worth the time |
| 22:23.31 | Slayman | on 85 then, what are your findings good sir? |
| 22:24.34 | Caleb| | I think the bigges problem is they seam to be having a problem balancing kill command, so till they fix the numbers BM is not really viable |
| 22:24.49 | Caleb| | currently SV is the strongest on the beta servers |
| 22:24.59 | Slayman | damn |
| 22:27.36 | Slayman | Caleb|: what's the stat priority? Hit, Agi, haste, crit, mastery? or hit, haste, agi, mastery? |
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| 22:28.43 | Caleb| | I'd say hit agi haste mastery crit but then again no theorycrafting done |
| 22:29.09 | Slayman | need to check EJ Forums then |
| 22:30.17 | Caleb| | yet again I don't think its worth bothing with it much till the numbers are not final and even then, for quite a while your gear is gonna be based on whats higher ilevel not on what stat the new item has :D |
| 22:33.13 | Slayman | but given you aquire 359 in due time, reforging and gemming properly may be the key to more dps |
| 22:35.12 | Slayman | there was a very decent thread on maintankadin about their priority which surprised me in some points, I don't want to run around like a total failure once the time is upon us you know? |
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| 23:12.05 | Repo | 10reaction: 03flickerstreak * r199 / (12 files in 5 directories): Added tag 1.1 Beta 2 for changeset 9945a783d8b2 (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 23:12.07 | Repo | Removed bad generated tag |
| 23:12.07 | Repo | Note to self: do not use "tag repository" from wowace, it tags changeset 00000 for hg repos? |
| 23:12.08 | Repo | Added tag 1.1 Beta 1 for changeset 2c05008464e5 |
| 23:12.10 | Repo | Fix totem bar flyout scale |
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| 23:36.23 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r221 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 23:36.24 | Repo | Fixed spells being missed if the same class has two solutions for it (such as Gore and Tendon Rip from hunter pets). |
| 23:36.25 | Repo | Allow multiple pet types. |
| 23:36.26 | Repo | Custom frame no longer displays blank slots for spells that are no longer present in the game, they're instead removed from config. |
| 23:37.17 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r222 Libs (4 files in 2 directories): Add hard-embed for LDB |
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| 23:52.21 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * d192a18 RaidTracker.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed function name |
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| 23:55.28 | cubed | How does GetPoint() with no arguments work? |
| 23:55.49 | jnwhiteh | !api GetPoint |
| 23:55.49 | lua_bot | Region:GetPoint: Returns information about one of the region's anchor points (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetPoint) |
| 23:56.07 | jnwhiteh | cubed: returns the first? returns all of the points? |
| 23:56.09 | jnwhiteh | test it and see =) |
| 23:56.18 | cubed | ya, only talks about using an index argument there |
| 23:56.26 | jnwhiteh | so test it out and see |
| 23:56.39 | jnwhiteh | and edit the API docs if you get good information =) |
| 23:57.37 | cubed | ;) |
| 23:57.42 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: What was the bug? |
| 23:58.12 | jnwhiteh | in short, clique was setting the mouseover attribute on frames |
| 23:58.16 | jnwhiteh | te answer is much longer than that |
| 23:58.21 | jnwhiteh | but that's the essence. |
| 23:58.28 | jnwhiteh | the unit was resolving to "playerpetpet" |
| 23:58.55 | jnwhiteh | because "mouseover" was resolving to "playerpet" and then SecureActionButton_GetModifiedUnit() was seeing unitsuffix and tacking it on |
| 23:59.13 | Shefki | Ahhh |
| 23:59.15 | jnwhiteh | that was the the critical part I was missing. |
| 23:59.22 | jnwhiteh | so really that function needs an exclusion for 'mouseover' |
| 23:59.33 | jnwhiteh | since 'mouseover' will always resolve correctly, it seems. |
