| 00:00.00 | Shefki | You know I wonder if the new model viewer attached to the quest stuff doesn't mean they will have improved the built in model viewer stuff. |
| 00:00.15 | Shefki | Because if they don't support setting textures on models it'd make it difficult for that to work. |
| 00:00.37 | Mirrormn | well, there is a method that allows you to apply a texture to a model, I think |
| 00:00.42 | Mirrormn | but I have no clue how to use it |
| 00:00.51 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Not that I'm aware of. |
| 00:01.23 | Antiarc | There was briefly in a 3.0 build |
| 00:01.25 | Antiarc | But it was removed |
| 00:01.41 | Shefki | Hopefully it's back in 4.0 |
| 00:02.07 | Mirrormn | anyway, I'd say it's pretty likely that they will create a new derivative of Model or PlayerModel which will handle the quest UI models |
| 00:02.17 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: define "AceGUI frame", do you mean a AceGUI-Frame or are we talking about a AceGUI-Window? |
| 00:02.17 | arkanes | why is it that anytime there is a new feature anywhere in wow, someone starts a forum thread about how gearscore breaks it or is broken by it or something |
| 00:02.18 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r512 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:02.20 | Repo | very alpha support for bn whisper text popouts. works by fixing a very old bug that was allowing unprocessed chat types to be processed anyways. |
| 00:02.44 | Mirrormn | AceGUI-Frame |
| 00:03.04 | Mirrormn | I didn't even know there was a window widget also |
| 00:03.07 | Niv | Mirrormn: I walked away, so I'm rehashing, but another thing that gearscore doesn't represent at all, are hardcaps/softcaps |
| 00:03.14 | Niv | I see so many random pug casters with 15% hit |
| 00:03.18 | Mirrormn | haha, true |
| 00:03.38 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: Use the Window, it has a :EnableResize(false) API |
| 00:03.46 | Niv | gearscore might actually have ended up more meaningful, if we didn't just flat out give away high level epics |
| 00:03.47 | Mirrormn | lovely |
| 00:03.49 | Mirrormn | thanks |
| 00:04.07 | Niv | back when higher ilvl gear meant there was some basic level of experience |
| 00:04.16 | Niv | even if they weren't compitent |
| 00:04.31 | Mirrormn | I don't think that ever was the case, niv |
| 00:04.33 | Niv | guild recruitment was sort of the initial screening that got you gear |
| 00:04.34 | arkanes | I can't really agree |
| 00:04.35 | vhaarr | oh wow, here's something that hasn't been discussed to death a thousand times over |
| 00:04.44 | Niv | vhaarr: you love it ;) |
| 00:05.02 | Niv | arkanes: 2.4 badge gear is the first place that got majorly derailed |
| 00:05.10 | arkanes | there's always been people who wanted to believe that their gear meant they were good, though |
| 00:05.10 | Niv | well before gearscore of course |
| 00:05.20 | Niv | that has always been wrong |
| 00:05.21 | Niv | always |
| 00:05.24 | vhaarr | perhaps it's time we start reintroducing the HTML4/CSS2-compliancy badges on our personal websites, only with thoughts on gearscore instead |
| 00:05.34 | arkanes | heh |
| 00:05.44 | vhaarr | fuck off with this discussion, really |
| 00:05.44 | arkanes | maybe creative commons could come up with some gearscore licensing schemes for us |
| 00:06.18 | Niv | sorry, someone defending gearscore is like mega-troll bait for me |
| 00:06.26 | Niv | it's hard to let it stand |
| 00:06.29 | vhaarr | you started it |
| 00:06.37 | Niv | no |
| 00:06.40 | Niv | look further up |
| 00:06.46 | vhaarr | <Niv> back when higher ilvl gear meant there was some basic level of experience |
| 00:06.46 | vhaarr | <Niv> even if they weren't compitent |
| 00:06.50 | vhaarr | that is the start of the discussion |
| 00:06.51 | Niv | I just walked away for a meeting and finished my thought when i came back |
| 00:06.56 | vhaarr | ah |
| 00:06.56 | Niv | no |
| 00:06.59 | Niv | :) |
| 00:07.08 | Niv | Mirrormn was defending gearscore a few pages back |
| 00:07.13 | Niv | I couldn't resistg |
| 00:07.15 | Wobin | was he? |
| 00:07.16 | Niv | resist* |
| 00:07.16 | Wobin | oh |
| 00:07.19 | Mirrormn | hey, I still ike and use Gear Score |
| 00:07.23 | Niv | ^ |
| 00:07.24 | Wobin | I must have come in partway through |
| 00:07.33 | Mirrormn | and I used people' |
| 00:07.37 | Wobin | Gear Score isn't, by itself a bad thing |
| 00:07.47 | Niv | vhaarr is going to mass cleanse the channel |
| 00:07.50 | Niv | better let it go! |
| 00:07.50 | Niv | ;P |
| 00:07.51 | Mirrormn | s gear as preliminary judgement of their skill long before gearscore came out |
| 00:08.00 | Wobin | sorry, rephrase, Gearscore, in and of -itself- is not a bad thing |
| 00:08.08 | Wobin | it's how people apply it that is the massive fail |
| 00:08.21 | Wobin | because people cannot but not fail in stuff like that. It's inherant |
| 00:08.37 | Wobin | wonders if he got that triple negative right |
| 00:08.48 | Mirrormn | I think so |
| 00:08.54 | arkanes | no |
| 00:08.58 | arkanes | you needed to drop the not |
| 00:09.07 | Mirrormn | ah yeah |
| 00:09.13 | Wobin | can but not fail? |
| 00:09.19 | Mirrormn | "cannot help but fail" |
| 00:09.19 | arkanes | the other not |
| 00:09.22 | Mirrormn | would be best, I think |
| 00:10.08 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.13 | vhaarr | look I made gearscore |
| 00:10.29 | Mirrormn | anyway, I won't start to claim that some people put too much stock in gear score and use it poorly, but that doesn't make gear score suck, it just means those people are stupid |
| 00:10.33 | Niv | you could make billions vhaarr |
| 00:10.40 | vhaarr | I feel rich already |
| 00:10.50 | arkanes | I want to talk about these "rumors" that gearscore puts your realid in its comms |
| 00:10.52 | Niv | I much prefered the be.imba.hu approach to gear rating |
| 00:10.55 | Mirrormn | and vhaarr, gear score weights its scores based on the relative stat budget given to each item slot ^_^ |
| 00:11.02 | arkanes | which I'm sure is nonsense, but lets talk about it anyway |
| 00:11.08 | vhaarr | why would it do that, though |
| 00:11.13 | vhaarr | just to complicate things? |
| 00:11.19 | Wobin | 'because it can'? |
| 00:11.25 | Niv | did they really add that now? |
| 00:11.26 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r513 addon/addon.lua: |
| 00:11.28 | Repo | code needed to fix prat's addmessage processing for events that are processed |
| 00:11.29 | arkanes | vhaarr: maybe some sort of protest action against real id |
| 00:11.32 | Niv | to avoid the SP plate DK ratings? |
| 00:11.32 | Niv | :P |
| 00:11.39 | vhaarr | arkanes: then I will endorse it |
| 00:11.45 | Wobin | SP Plate DKs are awesome |
| 00:11.54 | Niv | I know they added enchant checking (does it have an enchant) to it |
| 00:11.55 | Wobin | they screw with GS whores something terrible |
| 00:12.02 | arkanes | not as awesome as SP plate warriors |
| 00:12.10 | Wobin | arkanes: that's more obvoius |
| 00:12.21 | arkanes | sometimes SP plate has a lot of stamina on it |
| 00:12.27 | arkanes | tanks like stamina, right? |
| 00:12.32 | Wobin | but when you get a 5.5k GS spell power DK in a raid, spamming Icy Touch and Deathcoil and /oom |
| 00:12.36 | Wobin | it's glorious to watch |
| 00:12.44 | vhaarr | those exist? |
| 00:12.53 | Mirrormn | well I've never run into someone like that in practice |
| 00:12.56 | Wobin | vhaarr: only to fuck with people's minds =P |
| 00:13.06 | arkanes | I know a holy pally who heals with his mp5 gemmed shadows edge |
| 00:13.15 | vhaarr | does SP really increase the damage of DC/IT though? |
| 00:13.16 | Niv | haha |
| 00:13.24 | Wobin | vhaarr: in no way, whatsoever =) |
| 00:13.25 | arkanes | vhaarr: pretty sure no |
| 00:13.25 | vhaarr | I thought it was based on AP |
| 00:13.26 | Mirrormn | no |
| 00:13.28 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:13.29 | Niv | I should get our fury warrior to gem his shadowmourne with int |
| 00:13.35 | Mirrormn | paladins spells scale with AP and SP |
| 00:13.39 | Mirrormn | dks only scale with AP |
| 00:14.18 | Mirrormn | if you have a shadowmourne, GS gives you a free pass to anything |
| 00:14.39 | Mirrormn | shadowmourne is like an extra 400 points for free |
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| 00:15.01 | arkanes | I had some rogue hit on me because of my gearscore outside RS the other day |
| 00:15.11 | arkanes | apparently I have a lot of it |
| 00:15.36 | Mirrormn | some 76 mage this morning whispered me "damn, sexy beast" while I was standing around in dalaran |
| 00:15.52 | Mirrormn | that made me uncomfortable |
| 00:16.06 | Antiarc | http://twitter.com/JimiJames713/status/17984856404 |
| 00:16.17 | arkanes | haha |
| 00:16.47 | Mirrormn | classic pickup line |
| 00:17.20 | arkanes | is amber lynee famous in some non-twitter context? |
| 00:17.27 | arkanes | the name sounds vaguely familiar |
| 00:17.44 | Mirrormn | hrm, it's almosy raidin time |
| 00:17.52 | arkanes | oh she's a camwhore |
| 00:18.36 | Wobin | haha http://twitpic.com/23l1nc |
| 00:18.44 | Wobin | there should be an entire line of clothing like that |
| 00:19.12 | koaschten | uhm why am i not surprised to see this... check tooltip bottom right http://www.whataboutpp.com/users/vhell/upload/gearscore32.jpg |
| 00:19.29 | Shefki | koaschten: It's almost certainly fake. |
| 00:19.56 | Mirrormn | I like that |
| 00:20.02 | Mirrormn | "Hold shft to view alts" |
| 00:20.03 | Wobin | well... we can download the addon and -look-? |
| 00:20.13 | Shefki | No we can't. |
| 00:20.19 | Wobin | gearscore? |
| 00:20.20 | Shefki | It's in the supposed beta of GS that isn't available to download. |
| 00:20.24 | Wobin | ah |
| 00:20.25 | arkanes | realid certainly *could* be used by GS or a similar addon to do that |
| 00:20.31 | arkanes | so there's no reason it has to be fake |
| 00:20.32 | Wobin | true |
| 00:20.35 | Groktar | halp giev beta |
| 00:20.49 | Wobin | arkanes: although, it can't offer alts |
| 00:20.56 | arkanes | Wobin: it can if it seems em |
| 00:20.59 | Shefki | He'd have to start building names of characters via the realid friends feature. |
| 00:21.03 | Mirrormn | only if they explicitly created and kept a public or distributed database of peoples' names and alts |
| 00:21.04 | Shefki | Which is almost certainly not the intent. |
| 00:21.16 | arkanes | right |
| 00:21.24 | arkanes | there's no reason it couldn't do that, is what I'm saying |
| 00:21.26 | Shefki | If he does do that I expect swift baning by blizzard. |
| 00:21.29 | arkanes | or any addon |
| 00:21.35 | arkanes | Shefki: which is why he might do it |
| 00:21.35 | Shefki | But that's not what most people think it's doing. |
| 00:21.52 | arkanes | if people think it's pulling your real id from inspecting you, it's wrong of course |
| 00:22.19 | arkanes | well, maybe not, but that would indicate some other serious undisclosed flaw |
| 00:22.41 | Mirrormn | maybe it's real, but only supported for your real id friends, and we're just overeacting? |
| 00:22.53 | Shefki | Theh realid friends are in the screenshot. |
| 00:22.56 | Shefki | Look for yourself. |
| 00:23.09 | Mirrormn | oh, I see |
| 00:23.24 | Mirrormn | it's specifically showing the tooltip realid of someone not on the list |
| 00:23.28 | arkanes | being able to extract real id from an inspect is an obvious bug/exploit and would be fixed if reported |
| 00:23.47 | Mirrormn | which is why it's almost certainly a faked screenshot |
| 00:24.05 | koaschten | but you can't do anything about it if the addon broadcasts the info on request because both sides are running the latest gearscore version |
| 00:24.07 | koaschten | or whatever |
| 00:24.08 | arkanes | sharing realid information and alt tracking in the same distributed network that GS already uses is entirely reasonable, though |
| 00:24.15 | koaschten | just found the screenshot funny |
| 00:24.28 | Shefki | It's possible but I highly doubt he would do it. |
| 00:24.46 | arkanes | Shefki: I don't think anyone would do it except as a way to try to force blizzard to limit realid |
| 00:24.53 | Wobin | there is a method to broadcast -your- realid identity |
| 00:25.02 | Wobin | which could be linked in and used |
| 00:25.11 | Shefki | arkanes: Doing it would provoke more anger against his addon. He's got enough PR problems as is. |
| 00:25.12 | arkanes | Wobin: and all your friends |
| 00:25.38 | Wobin | well, the answer is simple |
| 00:25.40 | Wobin | don't install GS =) |
| 00:25.47 | Shefki | Wobin: Exactly. |
| 00:25.58 | arkanes | is the realid info exposed just your name string, or is there an actual unique guid? |
| 00:26.08 | arkanes | Wobin: maybe one of your friends uses it |
| 00:26.09 | Shefki | No unique guid. |
| 00:26.15 | Shefki | Just your name. |
| 00:26.18 | Wobin | name string |
| 00:26.22 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r514 modules/ChatTabs.lua: fix the 'disable flashing' option for the chat tabs |
| 00:26.36 | Shefki | The presence ID that it uses changes all the time. |
| 00:26.56 | sylvanaar | arg13 so messy |
| 00:27.24 | Shefki | Yeah nothing you can do about that. |
| 00:27.39 | arkanes | I like how theres someone advertising for a certain GS in the SS :) |
| 00:27.42 | Mirrormn | well I would definitely disabled gearscore if it broadcast my realid |
| 00:28.52 | Wobin | well actually |
| 00:29.06 | Wobin | if that's a beta |
| 00:29.16 | Shefki | I think it's a smear campaign on Real ID and GS. |
| 00:29.25 | Wobin | how is it getting broadcasts from other players? |
| 00:29.29 | arkanes | is the Vhell in the SS the GS dev? |
| 00:29.40 | Shefki | Wobin: Exactly. |
| 00:29.46 | Wobin | wouldn't the other players need the beta to broadcast their RealID? |
| 00:29.54 | Shefki | Don't think so arkanes. |
| 00:30.01 | arkanes | Wobin: presumably there is more than 1 person running the beta version |
| 00:30.02 | Shefki | The beta supposedly was up earlier and it's disappeared. |
| 00:30.17 | arkanes | well that would be easy enough to verify |
| 00:30.28 | arkanes | bloggers are like reporters, right? |
| 00:30.47 | Wobin | I mean, it could still be valid, if Emma Hewett was also in on the testing |
| 00:30.58 | Shefki | Who posted this screenshot anyway I've only seen it 3rd hand. |
| 00:32.10 | arkanes | maybe blizzard should put realid info in exif data of your screenshots |
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| 00:32.16 | arkanes | *eerie music* |
| 00:32.23 | Shefki | lol |
| 00:32.25 | koaschten | 02:31
+koaschten: so vhell|wk is that screenshot fake or real? ;) |
| 00:32.26 | koaschten | 02:31
+Birdemani: real |
| 00:32.39 | koaschten | 02:31
+vhell|wk: real |
| 00:32.48 | Shefki | Get him to give a copy of the GS. |
| 00:32.52 | Shefki | So we can pull it apart. |
| 00:32.58 | Shefki | If he won't it's fake. |
| 00:33.18 | arkanes | don't even need to do that really, just log on in the same guild as someone running it and watch the comms |
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| 00:34.11 | Mirrormn | the secrecy really stinks of fraud because if the addon was ever actually released with this supposed secret RealID magic, we'd all be able to find it at that point anyway |
| 00:34.16 | koaschten | Shefki trying |
| 00:34.25 | Shefki | Where is this going on? |
| 00:35.01 | koaschten | on irc.gamesurge.net #elitistjerks |
| 00:35.12 | Mirrormn | I like how http://www.whataboutpp.com/ is simply a picture informing me that "dood" upside-down is "poop" |
| 00:36.01 | koaschten | 02:33
+koaschten: or did you get bored with a tooltip addon there, vhell|wk? ;) |
| 00:36.03 | arkanes | of course, if GS (even a beta) really does do this, it won't take more than 5 more lines in a GS poison addon to render the information pretty useless |
| 00:36.12 | koaschten | he fails to deliver ;) |
| 00:36.48 | Mirrormn | what do you mean, arkanes, an addon that is designed to broadcast fake RealID info? |
| 00:36.56 | arkanes | Mirrormn: does it at least use fancy CSS text tricks to demonstraite it? |
| 00:36.58 | arkanes | Mirrormn: sure |
| 00:37.04 | Mirrormn | lol no |
| 00:37.06 | arkanes | Mirrormn: there's plenty of addons already design to poison gearscore databases |
| 00:37.07 | Mirrormn | it's just a picture |
| 00:37.21 | arkanes | broadcasting fake names wouldn't be any harder |
| 00:37.51 | Mirrormn | that's only assuming it uses a distributed database |
| 00:37.58 | arkanes | it does |
| 00:38.00 | arkanes | well |
| 00:38.04 | Mirrormn | and that there is no security flaw that allows you to pull realid info |
| 00:38.14 | arkanes | right, okay |
| 00:38.15 | Shefki | Mirrormn: I think it's pretty safe to say there isn't. |
| 00:38.27 | arkanes | that's really unlikely, though |
| 00:38.47 | arkanes | and I think if the GS author found one, he'd have reported it to blizz instead of integrating it into his beta |
| 00:38.57 | Shefki | Exactly. |
| 00:39.10 | Wobin | I'd totally broadcast my name as 'Tony Stark' |
| 00:39.32 | Mirrormn | who is the author of GS anyway? |
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| 00:40.41 | Shefki | fyrye |
| 00:40.53 | Shefki | and mirrikat45 |
| 00:44.21 | arkanes | I've actually known 3 seperate people named James Bond |
| 00:45.04 | Mirrormn | I wonder if all this real id controversy will end up encouraging new players to put bogus information in their account set-up |
| 00:45.21 | Mirrormn | that seems like the exact opposite of what Blizzard would want |
| 00:48.37 | Shefki | koaschten: Any luck? |
| 00:48.44 | arkanes | aargh |
| 00:48.45 | koaschten | no |
| 00:48.52 | arkanes | how do I make this guy in my guild stop using carbonite |
| 00:48.59 | koaschten | gkick |
| 00:49.02 | Shefki | Put him on ignore. |
| 00:49.15 | arkanes | does ignore work on addon comms? |
| 00:49.29 | Shefki | Think so, it used to. |
| 00:49.38 | arkanes | that might not be a bad idea then |
| 00:50.00 | arkanes | the one guy in my guild using GS is not using the mythical beta, for what its worth |
| 00:52.47 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r214 AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed: |
| 00:52.49 | Repo | - Fixed an issue with inflated rested XP when a toon is at the last level before Max level |
| 00:54.57 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/six-indian-factory-workers-drown-in-giant-vat-of-tomato-sauce/story-e6frfku0-1225889713761 |
| 00:55.00 | Wobin | =O |
| 00:55.50 | koaschten | tasty? |
| 01:06.02 | Martag | 44724 posts on the topic of Real ID in the forums. |
| 01:06.04 | Martag | Hawt. |
| 01:13.12 | Antiarc | We'll break 50k by 12 AM PST |
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| 01:43.58 | pompy | if you server transfer do your raid ids for the week reset? |
| 01:47.26 | Wobin | yes |
| 01:47.39 | Wobin | I believe so |
| 01:47.42 | ben | According to the FAQ and something I have read on the forum, you get assigned a new raid id that is as far as your old one was but is not shared with people from the same id who transfer as well |
| 01:48.09 | ben | When I did a server transfer and then a faction transfer I ended up with all ids reset, so I am not entirely sure how it actually works. :) |
| 01:52.00 | Shefki | Last time I transfered you stayed locked. |
| 01:52.10 | Shefki | They used to reset, but they stopped that when people were abusing it. |
| 01:52.26 | Shefki | What the lock is like (cleared, where you were, whatever) I'm not sure. |
| 01:52.41 | Wobin | ahaha abusing it |
| 01:52.52 | Wobin | ~25*15 |
| 01:52.53 | purl | 375 |
| 01:53.02 | Shefki | Wobin: People did do it. |
| 01:53.03 | Wobin | each abuse netting Blizzard $375 |
| 01:53.11 | Wobin | I don't think they were complaining -too- hard |
| 01:53.23 | Shefki | No but their other customers were. |
| 01:54.11 | Shefki | Has Battle.Net Friend stuff been down for everyone else all afternoon? |
| 01:54.18 | pompy | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20559 ahh the q&a is near the bottom |
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| 01:56.57 | Znuff | Hi. |
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| 02:07.34 | pompy | ~seen mysticalos |
| 02:07.36 | purl | mysticalos <~Myst@h7.12.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 21h 13m 20s ago, saying: 'you're still missing the debuff CDs, they are both 25 seconds exactly, shared cd in fact, they cast at same time, and don't reset for phase changes, first one is cast 15 seconds from pull :)'. |
| 02:12.00 | Morwrath | WTB cease and desist letters to blizzard |
| 02:12.08 | Morwrath | C&D my real name |
| 02:12.09 | Morwrath | =x |
| 02:21.58 | Morwrath | "Yeah all of us dont want to get |
| 02:21.58 | Morwrath | Whippled |
| 02:21.58 | Morwrath | A new wow forums phrase " |
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| 02:22.04 | Morwrath | Clever. |
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| 02:39.03 | kagaro | interesting, the combat log doesnt break on my mac |
| 02:51.28 | Shefki | kagaro: It breaks on mine, just not very often. |
| 02:51.48 | kagaro | wish they would fix it then |
| 02:53.35 | Morwrath | lol Blizzard is getting pretty delete heavy on the forums. |
| 02:53.41 | Morwrath | Down to 45000 again |
| 02:55.51 | pompy | that employee must be having lots of fun right now |
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| 03:08.19 | Znuff | Does anyone know of an addon that creates a chat tab for addon messages? |
| 03:13.06 | pompy | Znuff: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/ check out that |
| 03:13.36 | Znuff | wasn't refering to the special addon communication channel(s) |
| 03:15.14 | steevdave | woot |
| 03:15.19 | steevdave | halion 25 down (normal) |
| 03:18.14 | Torhal | Znuff: Then, no. AddOn messages as you refer to them are nothing more then prints to the default chat frame |
| 03:18.49 | Znuff | Ah, I see :) |
| 03:21.24 | Znuff | Any ideas of an addon that will allow me to change *just* unit names? |
| 03:21.32 | Wobin | pompy: that moderator must feel like a healer on a 4000man raid =P |
| 03:21.40 | Znuff | I tried Fontain, but it messed up my WIM :( |
| 03:25.18 | pompy | lol |
| 03:28.45 | steevdave | plate boots dropped |
| 03:28.56 | steevdave | i rolled a 28, ret paladin rolled 100 |
| 03:30.54 | pompy | get owned |
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| 03:55.13 | Znuff | I'm surprised |
| 03:55.37 | Znuff | There seems to be no addon that allows you to filter incoming whisper from just friends/guildies etc. |
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| 04:08.35 | arkanes | if you delete the combat log while wow is writing to it it'll "break" |
| 04:09.13 | arkanes | because OS X has file identity that extends beyond just the path, and wow doesn't allow for that, so the one in the recycle bin will continue to be written to |
| 04:10.50 | Shefki | That's not unique to OS X |
| 04:10.57 | arkanes | I didn't say it was |
| 04:11.30 | arkanes | its not how any of the other OSes that Wow runs on works, though |
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| 04:12.13 | Shefki | Windows is pretty much the only OS that doesn't work like that. |
| 04:12.26 | arkanes | no |
| 04:12.50 | arkanes | if someone has an open FD to a file, and you mv the file while they're writing to it, writes will not transparently go to the new file |
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| 04:20.51 | Znuff | windows does that too, afaik |
| 04:20.58 | Znuff | seen it a couple of times |
| 04:21.12 | arkanes | apps can do it if they do some work |
| 04:21.21 | arkanes | but it's not a feature of the filesystem and syscalls |
| 04:21.59 | arkanes | and explorer actually intentionally tries to make it not happen when you "delete" something with it, because the trash can is special |
| 04:25.20 | Morwrath | 46k hmm |
| 04:27.28 | Repo | 10gridstatuschainbest: 03slaren * r4 GridStatusChainBest.lua: |
| 04:27.29 | Repo | - Fixed calculation being done for one more jump than it should |
| 04:27.30 | Repo | - Workaround for carbonite map flicker |
| 04:27.31 | Repo | - Fixed emphasize settings |
| 04:28.20 | Repo | 10gridstatusdistance: 03slaren 04v0.91 * r6 : Tagging as v0.91 |
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| 05:41.11 | asmodai | rofl |
| 05:41.18 | asmodai | those Mastiffs actually pick up and run away with foxes |
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| 06:24.38 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:52.29 | Repo | 10itemauditor (experimental): 03AsaAyers * r23 / (9 files in 2 directories): More debug messages and added the ability to scroll the debug window. |
| 06:52.31 | Repo | I have removed the ability to show debug messages in the chat window and have replaced it with a new debug frame. /ia debug will show all of the debug messages and everything that IA has printed. This commit also has a small fix so that if you sell something for your exact cost you don't get a message that you made a profit of 0c. |
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| 07:33.54 | CrazyBenny | hehe, the new cata screenshots with Horatio Laine are just awesome |
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| 07:59.53 | asmodai | http://nerfnow.com/ |
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| 08:11.17 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/mHXiz.png |
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| 08:49.57 | harl | wuff |
| 08:55.16 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r42 / (6 files in 1 directory): rewrote the queue system to be much cleaner |
| 08:55.18 | Repo | # entry for queue/create now updates without requring the user to hit enter |
| 08:55.19 | Repo | selected skill should no longer reset to first skill |
| 09:09.13 | asmodai | http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8632/gearscore.jpg |
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| 09:09.24 | asmodai | Shefki: you really added that protection on time |
| 09:10.40 | Shefki | asmodai: fake |
| 09:10.57 | Shefki | http://www.wow.com/2010/07/08/that-scary-gearscore-real-id-screenshot-is-fake-guys/ |
| 09:11.25 | asmodai | mmm |
| 09:11.48 | Shefki | That one is so lame as to even show the GS version number in the screenshot when we can go look at the software and find that it does no such thing. |
| 09:12.30 | asmodai | nods |
| 09:12.40 | asmodai | Just picked it up via some forum post over at mmoc |
| 09:32.36 | Shefki | asmodai: Someone on the official forums did write a proof of concept addon that avoids the warning from my addon but can't get your name. |
| 09:32.45 | Shefki | So if you're not running my addon it gets your name. |
| 09:32.55 | Shefki | If you are it avoids tripping the warning I print out. |
| 09:35.23 | asmodai | I can live with that. |
| 09:35.27 | asmodai | So long as it is blocked. |
| 09:38.03 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 09:38.17 | Shefki | He can detect my countermeasures from the taint they create. |
| 09:43.05 | asmodai | Just sucks that this stuff has to happen in a game |
| 09:51.43 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r10 LKAnnounce.lua: Fixed a bug where saved variables would not initialize |
| 09:51.55 | Mirrormn | oh that is neat |
| 09:52.34 | Mirrormn | speaking of which, who do I talk to to get my addon out of experimental? |
| 09:54.43 | vhaarr | you make a release |
| 09:54.56 | vhaarr | or edit the project settings |
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| 09:55.37 | Shefki | Mirrormn: If you resubmit it for approval I'll look at it and approve it. |
| 09:55.46 | Shefki | @project wow lkannounce |
| 09:55.50 | Repo | Shefki: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-17136/. sueie. Game: WoW. Status: Deleted. This does not appear to be an appropriate project.. antionjaxter (Manager/Author). Updated: 552 days ago |
| 09:55.57 | Shefki | Ohh curseforge. |
| 09:56.00 | Shefki | nm can't help you. |
| 09:56.04 | Mirrormn | it's been resubmitted for approval for like 2 days |
| 09:56.16 | Shefki | @project wow/lkannounce |
| 09:56.18 | Repo | Shefki: 'http://www.wowace.com/addons/lkannounce/. LKAnnounce. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval after changes. You should not be embedding libraries in your repository. Read http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ for more information.\r . Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago' |
| 09:56.29 | Shefki | nm I suck at using Repo |
| 09:56.34 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 10:04.54 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: your project isn't marked "experimental" |
| 10:05.26 | vhaarr | you need to get it approved, like Shefki somehow magically knew you were actually asking for |
| 10:05.37 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Some reason you need every function of your addon in the global namespace? |
| 10:06.39 | Mirrormn | I started writing it before I was familiar with Ace3 general coding practices, and redoing all the namespaces seemed like a lot of work for 0 actual benefit |
| 10:07.19 | Mirrormn | vhaarr: what's the difference? |
| 10:07.59 | Shefki | You could probably refactor the namespace with a simple search and replace. |
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| 10:08.46 | Mirrormn | mm, true |
| 10:08.50 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: the difference is that being marked as experimental is something the project manager can change, while an unapproved project has to be touched by a wowace admin |
| 10:09.01 | Shefki | Make a table named LKA (e.g. local LKA = select(2,...) ) |
| 10:09.12 | Shefki | And then s/LKA_/LKA./ |
| 10:09.51 | Mirrormn | yes, that would certainly work if I kept my prefixes properly standard, which I think I did |
| 10:10.06 | Shefki | And as far as the benefit. |
| 10:10.23 | Shefki | Makes it a hell of a lot easier to look through the taint log. |
| 10:10.53 | Shefki | Because for every global you make you're tainting a value. |
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| 10:11.52 | Mirrormn | I see |
| 10:12.31 | Mirrormn | well, I'll make that change, anything else? |
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| 10:13.36 | Shefki | Nothing that really stood out to me. |
| 10:16.09 | vhaarr | you're creating some disposable functions with regards to timers, and your option table could be optimized quite a bit |
| 10:17.09 | Mirrormn | you mean the AceConfigRegistry table or the saved variables table? |
| 10:17.16 | vhaarr | aceoptions table |
| 10:17.22 | Mirrormn | how so? |
| 10:17.51 | Shefki | I'll agree with the anonymous functions, really shouldn't do that. |
| 10:17.58 | vhaarr | well all options that are similar with only one difference can be consolidated |
| 10:18.01 | vhaarr | for example the stun options |
| 10:18.16 | vhaarr | but it's not a big deal really |
| 10:18.23 | vhaarr | just makes the code cleaner |
| 10:18.36 | vhaarr | no value ingame |
| 10:18.50 | Mirrormn | how could they be consolidated? |
| 10:19.03 | Shefki | local foo = { whatever } |
| 10:19.26 | Shefki | Then do a copy to a fresh table. |
| 10:19.34 | Shefki | And change any params for that specific one. |
| 10:19.52 | vhaarr | not sure if Shefki and me are talking about the same thing |
| 10:19.52 | Shefki | You can also use get/setter functions on the group rather than on each entry. |
| 10:20.00 | vhaarr | that's what I meant |
| 10:20.23 | vhaarr | set = function(info, value) db[info[#info]] = value end, |
| 10:20.33 | Mirrormn | you can define get and set fields for the group and they inheret to the children? |
| 10:20.35 | vhaarr | info[#info] contains the name of the option |
| 10:20.38 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 10:20.40 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 10:20.45 | Mirrormn | interesting |
| 10:21.28 | Mirrormn | as for the anonymous functions in timers |
| 10:21.32 | Mirrormn | what's the problem with that? |
| 10:21.36 | vhaarr | you would have to change some option keys or db keys around to make it work though but shouldn't be much work |
| 10:21.44 | vhaarr | well there's no real problem except it isn't needed |
| 10:22.04 | Shefki | Unnecessary garbage generation. |
| 10:22.17 | vhaarr | timer:ScheduleTimer(function() alertTexture:Hide(); end, 0.5); |
| 10:22.18 | vhaarr | for example |
| 10:22.21 | Shefki | That function gets created every time you start that timer. |
| 10:22.29 | vhaarr | could be just timer:ScheduleTimer(alertTexture.Hide, 0.5) |
| 10:22.51 | vhaarr | or local function hideTex() alertTexture:Hide() end; timer:ScheduleTimer(hideTex, 0.5); |
| 10:23.03 | Shefki | actually the first one wouldn't work. |
| 10:23.09 | Shefki | It wouldn't get the implicit arg. |
| 10:23.15 | vhaarr | does it need it? |
| 10:23.17 | vhaarr | I wasn't sure |
| 10:23.23 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 10:23.30 | vhaarr | alright well the second one does work |
| 10:23.36 | Mirrormn | I dunno how a frame would hide itself if it didn't know what it was |
| 10:23.59 | Mirrormn | couldn't you do ScheduleTimer(alertTexture.Hide, 0.5, alertTexture) though |
| 10:24.28 | vhaarr | depending on how AceTimer does additional arguments, possibly |
| 10:24.46 | Mirrormn | I'm pretty sure that's how the arguments work |
| 10:25.12 | Shefki | It allows for a single argument, so yes. |
| 10:25.14 | Shefki | You can do that. |
| 10:25.28 | vhaarr | other than those I'll just say you seem to be fond of additional, unnecessary markup like () and ; |
| 10:25.33 | vhaarr | which doesn't do much for code readability |
| 10:25.37 | Mirrormn | ah, yeah |
| 10:25.42 | Mirrormn | I really am fond of those, yes |
| 10:26.37 | Shefki | Gotta admit I'm not fond of ; but I'm kinda regretting getting in the habit of not using it. |
| 10:26.50 | Shefki | Going back to other languages that require it is painful when you get used to not using it. |
| 10:27.29 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: you seem to be iterating indexed tables with pairs() |
| 10:27.43 | vhaarr | in several places |
| 10:27.45 | Mirrormn | I wrote a small programming language compiler once and I have to say, the thought of code being syntactically interpreted without semicolons makes me queasy |
| 10:28.10 | Mirrormn | is there a reason not to? |
| 10:28.21 | Shefki | Here's one that will make you really worried: foo"bar" |
| 10:28.28 | Shefki | ^ That's a valid function call in Lua. |
| 10:28.41 | Mirrormn | yeah I saw that notation when I was reading about McRun earlier |
| 10:28.49 | Mirrormn | almost blew my mind |
| 10:29.51 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: if the table is actually indexed, ipairs() should be faster, and |for i, v in next, tbl do| even better, as long as the table doesn't contain any nil entries mid-index |
| 10:30.13 | Mirrormn | if anything, I would assume ipairs is actually more complex than pairs because it would have to specifically check for non-integer keys and ignore them |
| 10:30.30 | vhaarr | no, it just ignores them it doesn't check for them |
| 10:30.41 | Shefki | Why would for i,v in next, tbl be any better than ipairs() |
| 10:30.48 | Shefki | All ipairs does is return next,tbl for you. |
| 10:30.48 | Mirrormn | how could it ignore them, if they're there? |
| 10:31.07 | vhaarr | Shefki: because it doesn't generate a anonymous iterator |
| 10:31.38 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: because it just iterates until it can't any more instead of actually looking up the table keys |
| 10:31.47 | vhaarr | with a integer index |
| 10:32.27 | Mirrormn | all right |
| 10:32.50 | Mirrormn | and the next, tbl notation, what is that exactly? |
| 10:33.29 | vhaarr | ipairs generates an anonymous function each time you use it, while doing |next, tbl| will just iterate the table with next(), but that stops the second it finds a nil |
| 10:33.36 | Shefki | vhaarr: ipairs and your code produce identical operations. |
| 10:33.38 | vhaarr | while ipairs will go to the end of the index |
| 10:33.40 | Shefki | I just checked with luac -l |
| 10:33.56 | vhaarr | Shefki: that's weird since next stops on nil and ipairs doesn't |
| 10:33.58 | Shefki | vhaarr: I don't think that's true anymore. |
| 10:34.02 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:34.06 | vhaarr | perhaps I am too old then |
| 10:34.16 | Mirrormn | I thought I read ipairs stops on nil |
| 10:34.17 | Shefki | I remember ipairs et al used to behave differently. |
| 10:34.31 | Mirrormn | and you couldn't used it with indexed tables with holes in them |
| 10:34.33 | vhaarr | forget what I said then, I don't keep up to speed on these things |
| 10:34.36 | Mirrormn | oh! |
| 10:34.39 | Shefki | main <for2.lua:0,0> (16 instructions, 64 bytes at 0x100b60) |
| 10:34.39 | Shefki | 0+ params, 9 slots, 0 upvalues, 6 locals, 5 constants, 0 functions |
| 10:34.45 | Shefki | main <for.lua:0,0> (16 instructions, 64 bytes at 0x100b60) |
| 10:34.46 | Shefki | 0+ params, 9 slots, 0 upvalues, 6 locals, 5 constants, 0 functions |
| 10:34.47 | Mirrormn | which is exactly why I decided to use pairs in the first place |
| 10:34.50 | Mirrormn | I remember now |
| 10:34.53 | Shefki | for.lua was next, tbl |
| 10:34.57 | Shefki | for2.lua was ipairs() |
| 10:35.04 | vhaarr | alright |
| 10:35.12 | Shefki | Line for line identical bytecode. |
| 10:35.18 | Mirrormn | it's definitely possible in my code for there to be a hole in the table |
| 10:35.20 | vhaarr | well that's good I guess |
| 10:35.36 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: in any case another issue is that you refer to english spell names all over the place |
| 10:35.51 | Mirrormn | hmm? |
| 10:35.52 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: when you could just use spell IDs or a |local frenzyName = GetSpellInfo(...)| and compare against that |
| 10:36.06 | vhaarr | your addon won't work on non-english clients |
| 10:36.20 | Mirrormn | well, yes, that is true |
| 10:36.33 | Shefki | Ok I was wrong. I edited the wrong file after I copied. |
| 10:36.44 | vhaarr | looking up lots of spell IDs on wowhead/whatever is boring |
| 10:36.48 | Mirrormn | I did start with spell IDs for a lot of the combat log checks |
| 10:36.52 | vhaarr | so the local'ing of spell names is good |
| 10:36.52 | Shefki | The byte code is slightly different. |
| 10:36.55 | Shefki | But same number of ops. |
| 10:36.56 | Mirrormn | which I looked up on wowhead |
| 10:37.01 | Mirrormn | and, some of them didn't work |
| 10:37.15 | Shefki | The only diff is GETGLOBAL next vs GETGLOBAL ipairs |
| 10:37.22 | vhaarr | fuck the spellIds, but local name = GetSpellInfo |
| 10:37.31 | vhaarr | Shefki: right, that makes sense :P |
| 10:37.36 | Shefki | And CALL instaed of LOADNIL |
| 10:38.15 | Shefki | I suppose you could argue the CALL (which is calling ipairs) is going to be a tad more timeconsuming than LOADNIL |
| 10:38.28 | vhaarr | I would never argue that |
| 10:38.34 | Mirrormn | since I can only really test a lot of the addon's functionality like, in the middle of heroic lich king attempts |
| 10:38.36 | vhaarr | such "optimizations" are useless in reality |
| 10:38.49 | Mirrormn | where I have about 60 seconds in between attempts to fix anything |
| 10:38.52 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: you might want to take a look at my code for frenzy prediction in bigwigs |
| 10:39.32 | Mirrormn | yeah? for what? |
| 10:39.49 | Shefki | Mirrormn: I think both vhaarr and I both do that sort of coding. Since he works on BigWigs and I work on DXE. |
| 10:39.53 | Shefki | So we understand. |
| 10:40.18 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: for fun |
| 10:40.22 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 10:40.24 | Shefki | Mirrormn: As far as spellids... |
| 10:40.31 | Shefki | Use names but get the names from the spellids. |
| 10:40.40 | vhaarr | that's what I just said :P |
| 10:40.45 | Mirrormn | oh hey, speaking of BigWigs |
| 10:40.54 | Shefki | Sorry I was dicking around with luac. |
| 10:41.15 | Mirrormn | does BigWigs mark the val'kyr? cause I was trying to find the icon set it used for a compatibility option, but I couldn't find it |
| 10:41.19 | vhaarr | no |
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| 10:43.13 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Well you have some feedback. I nudged Torhal since he'd already taken some moderation action on your addon. |
| 10:43.48 | Shefki | Torhal might have some other feedback, he's usually pretty good about approving stuff. |
| 10:44.23 | Mirrormn | aight so, change the global functions to a table, stop using anonymous functions for timers, get spell name info for GetSpellInfo |
| 10:44.37 | vhaarr | optimize the aceoption table for readability |
| 10:44.52 | vhaarr | and significant code size savings |
| 10:45.05 | vhaarr | check out my frenzy prediction code in bigwigs since it's a lot more streamlined than yours |
| 10:45.32 | Shefki | Don't take this stuff personally, it's just part of the Project Acceptance Policy for wowace. |
| 10:45.43 | Mirrormn | no, I'm happy for the feedback |
| 10:45.48 | vhaarr | well, not all of it :P |
| 10:46.06 | Shefki | vhaarr: Not directly, but code quality is part of it. |
| 10:46.15 | Mirrormn | I don't recall reading any of this on the project acceptance policy page, though |
| 10:46.37 | Shefki | "Code base at a higher standard: Are you declaring all your variables to be global? Are you using upvalues to improve code efficiency?" |
| 10:46.55 | Shefki | That's not meant to be an exhaustive list. |
| 10:47.24 | Mirrormn | what does "Are you using upvalues to improve code efficiency?" mean anyway? |
| 10:47.33 | vhaarr | it's nonsense |
| 10:47.34 | Shefki | Say you've got some code that runs a lot. |
| 10:47.42 | Mirrormn | lol vhaarr |
| 10:47.45 | vhaarr | for the most part, except for what Shefki said now |
| 10:47.47 | vhaarr | "runs a lot" |
| 10:47.53 | Shefki | Rather than using a global... |
| 10:47.55 | vhaarr | like on every onupdate |
| 10:48.03 | Shefki | You do local foo = foo |
| 10:48.19 | Shefki | Then foo is an upvalue and it doesn't have to do the table lookup. |
| 10:48.33 | vhaarr | the most important part is the "don't taint the global scope too much", like Shefki originally prodded you about |
| 10:49.21 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: http://www.wowace.com/addons/findglobals/ |
| 10:49.28 | Shefki | There are other reason to use upvalues, like avoiding someone replacing the global out from under you. |
| 10:50.07 | Shefki | Which if you don't want to be intercepteed by someone elses hook is something you might do. |
| 10:50.47 | Shefki | Fix the global thing and if Torhal doesn't approve the project I will tomorrow. |
| 10:50.51 | Shefki | Anyway I'm going to bed. |
| 10:51.24 | Mirrormn | all right, I made a list |
| 10:51.27 | Mirrormn | thanks a lot for the feedback |
| 10:51.52 | Shefki | Drop me a PM on wowace to remind me when you're done. |
| 10:52.07 | Mirrormn | k |
| 10:54.10 | asmodai | oh schweet, found a clusterssh for windows |
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| 10:55.29 | sbu | a what? |
| 10:55.52 | sbu | "ClusterSSH controls a number of xterm windows via a single graphical console window to allow commands to be interactively run on multiple servers over an ssh connection." that one? |
| 10:56.04 | asmodai | aye |
| 10:56.18 | asmodai | imagine having to replicate commands on more than x boxes |
| 10:56.20 | asmodai | sucks |
| 10:56.29 | asmodai | in my case I need to do the same thing on 8 boxes |
| 10:56.30 | sbu | "shutdown -h NOW"? |
| 10:56.33 | asmodai | Nah |
| 10:56.39 | asmodai | More than that :P |
| 10:58.04 | sbu | do you know "dsh"? |
| 10:58.22 | koaschten | well shutdown actually WOULD have a GUI for remote running :) |
| 10:58.41 | sbu | asmodai: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/dsh.html |
| 10:58.43 | sbu | great tool |
| 10:58.47 | Mirrormn | hey vhaarr, are you still around? |
| 10:58.50 | vhaarr | yes |
| 10:59.13 | Mirrormn | I looked at bigwigs but I can't tell what you're talking about in terms of frenzy prediction |
| 10:59.17 | asmodai | sbu: But not what I need. :P |
| 10:59.35 | asmodai | sbu: In my case I am merely a developer on a Windows box who has a bunch of Unix boxes I need to run commands on |
| 10:59.36 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: Citadel/LichKing.lua, function mod:PlagueTick |
| 10:59.44 | asmodai | But the commands are all similar |
| 10:59.58 | asmodai | so normally I repeat them with PuTTY on all the hosts :S |
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| 11:00.11 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: that function is called on SPELL_DAMAGE when the spellId is a necrotic plague |
| 11:00.20 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
| 11:00.22 | sbu | asmodai: mh well.. should do with dsh |
| 11:00.28 | Mirrormn | I didn't even see that function |
| 11:00.34 | Mirrormn | maybe my version is not new enough |
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| 11:00.45 | Mirrormn | I just downloaded it like 2 days ago though |
| 11:00.48 | sbu | declare one host as "master"; put ssh pubkey on all "slaves"; run dsh with your commands, wait, ... :p |
| 11:06.53 | Mirrormn | vhaarr: two things |
| 11:07.28 | Mirrormn | 1) it seems like my code is 5s faster than yours |
| 11:07.56 | Mirrormn | ... and I forgot the second thing |
| 11:08.02 | Mirrormn | I don't think it was as important |
| 11:09.42 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 11:09.54 | Mirrormn | yours also doesn't seem to account for CoE/Ebon Plague |
| 11:14.38 | Mirrormn | oh nevermind on that one, you get the tick damage from the combat log message, which would already include CoE damage |
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| 11:26.40 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: note that I didn't say "copy my code" |
| 11:26.52 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: I am full aware of how it works, and how your code works |
| 11:27.23 | Kalroth | steals vhaarr's code! |
| 11:27.35 | vhaarr | I didn't oppose it either :P |
| 11:27.38 | vhaarr | I just told him to read it |
| 11:28.47 | Mirrormn | well as far as I can tell, most of the extra complexity in my addon is directly necessary from the task of detecting the plague 5s earlier |
| 11:28.52 | Repo | 10grid-status-control-pipes: 03Julith * r57 / (4 files in 1 directory): GridStatusControlPipes: |
| 11:28.54 | Repo | - made "to-text" filter applicable for duration and stacks |
| 11:28.55 | Repo | - fixed duplicate config bug |
| 11:29.04 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: yes, it is |
| 11:29.42 | Mirrormn | although I guess there is a more philosophical point of, does anybody really need to know what the plague is doing 5s earlier? |
| 11:29.55 | vhaarr | in some case an add will frenzy from the first tick |
| 11:30.01 | Mirrormn | true |
| 11:30.31 | Repo | 10grid-status-control-pipes: 03Julith * r58 GridStatusControlPipes.toc: GridStatusControlPipes: updated version |
| 11:30.33 | vhaarr | but I am protesting blizzard not providing proper SPELL_AURA_APPLIED events for this debuff, and as such I refuse to riddle my code with all this shit you have |
| 11:30.50 | Mirrormn | hahaha |
| 11:30.51 | vhaarr | so I will be 5 seconds slower then |
| 11:30.55 | Repo | 10grid-status-control-pipes: 03Julith 04v1.2 * r59 : Tagging as v1.2 |
| 11:30.59 | Mirrormn | I feel like it was probably very intentional |
| 11:31.12 | Mirrormn | that, and the way defile is cast |
| 11:31.24 | Mirrormn | seem like 100% designed to make it hard to write boss addons for LK |
| 11:31.31 | koaschten | what i don't like is the transition add change... |
| 11:31.39 | vhaarr | Mirrormn: well, it's either that, or they are incompetent |
| 11:31.44 | koaschten | instantly spawning adds in a spread out split in half ranged camp ... |
| 11:31.48 | koaschten | inssttaaaaa gib |
| 11:31.52 | vhaarr | personally, I hope they are incompetent |
| 11:32.17 | Mirrormn | you only get insta gibbed if you have a slowbie tank =/ |
| 11:32.28 | vhaarr | koaschten: have a warrior/druid tank stand behind the melee and pick up the new add that spawns, drag him behind the melee/MT |
| 11:32.37 | vhaarr | koaschten: wait for the first frontal cone, then have MT taunt |
| 11:32.42 | vhaarr | pick up next, repeat |
| 11:33.17 | koaschten | the problem we usually have is, the mob turns around, insta whacks a caster over the head and then strolls of to the tanks |
| 11:33.25 | vhaarr | your tank is slow |
| 11:33.40 | Mirrormn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.10 | Mirrormn | I've tanked that phase on my alt, it's not exactly easy |
| 11:34.30 | Mirrormn | but if you're fast you can definitely keep the spirits from gibbing anybody |
| 11:35.03 | Mirrormn | another very good trick is to have sombody spam dispel on your tank while the next add is spawning |
| 11:35.30 | Mirrormn | case paladins and dks basically can't pick up the add at all if they're silenced |
| 11:35.44 | asmodai | cata dx 9 vs 11: http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagelarge/1278505951.jpeg - http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagelarge/1278505950.jpeg |
| 11:35.54 | asmodai | http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagelarge/1278505949.jpeg - http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagelarge/1278505952.jpeg |
| 11:37.34 | Megalon | even the gryphon cheers for dx11 |
| 11:37.36 | Mirrormn | erm |
| 11:37.53 | Mirrormn | nevermind |
| 11:38.03 | asmodai | Megalon: Just wonder why it needed dx 10 for that |
| 11:38.06 | asmodai | err dx11 |
| 11:38.41 | Mirrormn | seems like the particle effects on his sword changed but you can't really tell how cause it's a still shot |
| 11:38.57 | Megalon | probably for #define dx11_makewaterlookbetter 1 |
| 11:39.38 | vangual | the microsoft cashbag the gfx programmers found on their desk one morning said it needs dx11 ;) |
| 11:41.51 | Mirrormn | more like the Nvidia cashbag |
| 11:43.21 | vangual | nvidia has no interest in reducing the perfectly fine dx9 clients. |
| 11:44.08 | vangual | on a different note, will the opengl/mac client get those fancy effects aswell? |
| 11:44.33 | Mirrormn | nvidia has an interest in games supporting dx11 so that people will buy their new dx11-compliant hardwares |
| 11:44.51 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.14-beta2-3-gfd795ba / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added more font options (outline, monochrome). |
| 11:45.20 | vangual | both big players ati and nvidia have the same interest in that regards |
| 11:45.26 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 041.14-beta3 * 7d8d100 /: [new tag] 3. beta for Fortress-1.14 |
| 11:45.29 | Mirrormn | well yeah |
| 11:45.44 | vangual | so that'd mean two big cashbags ;) |
| 11:45.45 | Mirrormn | but I couldn't very well say the Nvidia+ATI cashbag, could I |
| 11:45.58 | Mirrormn | they'd never put their cash in the same bag! |
| 11:46.24 | vangual | nvidia would put a sticker alongside also! |
| 11:46.33 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 11:46.41 | Mirrormn | "this canvas bag is Nvidia compatible" |
| 11:46.56 | Mirrormn | "approved for all official Nvidia bribery" |
| 11:47.10 | vangual | Best opened after working dx11 implementation |
| 11:48.16 | vangual | Is there a mac client for 4.x out yet? curious if it requires something fancy like ogl4.0 for similar effects |
| 11:48.25 | Mirrormn | well, bedtime for me |
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| 12:05.26 | KnThrak | Ok, this is probably some rookie mistake, but I am trying to unpack a table (defined as ['MANA'] = {0,0,1 |
| 12:05.30 | KnThrak | Argh, sorry, accidential enter |
| 12:05.32 | KnThrak | I'll retype |
| 12:06.41 | KnThrak | Ok, this is probably some rookie mistake, but I am trying to unpack a table (defined as ['MANA'] = {0,0,1}) via unpack(colors.power['MANA']). It tells me table expected, got nil. Bit of a weird thing, because if I print out type(colors.power['MANA']), it says table, and if I try to print the content directly it says string expected, got table. So why is it apparently not a table for the unpack function? :s |
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| 12:08.44 | vhaarr | you can't be telling us everything, because what you described should work |
| 12:08.50 | vhaarr | you'd better paste the code somewhere |
| 12:10.16 | KnThrak | Will do, sec |
| 12:14.33 | KnThrak | http://pastebin.com/w8aSHGSd - that's the table at the top and the problematic code part below |
| 12:15.09 | KnThrak | the else-part works ofc if pTypeString is undefined, it's just the unpack not working. |
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| 12:20.57 | KnThrak | I would normally assume (I'm not good with Lua) that I just have to plug it into the SetStatusBar in a different way, but what's making me fumble here is that type() returns table and trying to print it out confirms that. |
| 12:20.59 | vhaarr | that still doesn't make any sense |
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| 12:23.14 | vhaarr | does oUF.colors.power even exist? |
| 12:23.20 | KnThrak | That's pretty much all there is to it, though. It's for an oUF layout, and the table at the top is supposed to be for looking up the colors according to power type. |
| 12:23.27 | KnThrak | Yes it does, can findi t with LuaBrowser. |
| 12:23.34 | KnThrak | I found something however, I think |
| 12:23.58 | KnThrak | I just printed out the type(colors.power[pTypeString]) again, and I get two chatlines actually. 'table', and then in another line, 'nil' |
| 12:24.39 | KnThrak | have to define the table in another way I think. I'll try around with that. Weirdly enough it works at a different spot but I can just define the colourtable differently. The idea is right now that it falls back to oUF's own table if something isn'T defined, otherwise it uses the local colourtable. |
| 12:24.50 | KnThrak | But hrm... should work just as well without that. I'll try that first, ty. |
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| 12:40.52 | haste | I'm here for a short while for oUF stuff :P |
| 12:44.55 | KnThrak | Well I got no clue, I changed the colour table from a metatable to a normal table now, and it works fine, as it did in my previous layout (pretty much just ripped the code from my old setup now). |
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| 12:45.49 | KnThrak | WHY the specific thing printed out 'table' as it's type if I ask the type but refused to unpack via unpack(), no clue. But it works with just my old powercolour table, so problem is solved now. In a way. ;) |
| 12:46.32 | KnThrak | But did I understand it right that if I define my power colours as a metatable and set __index to your colourtable in oUF itself, I get a fallback? In case my table doesn't have the values for some type of power, it'd check in yours? |
| 12:47.54 | haste | yes, the metatables is only used as a fallback |
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| 12:49.38 | KnThrak | Then I had the right idea. No clue why it won't work but the problem is solved now, if not in the way I originally intended to. In any case, layout working, all fine, on towards party pets. On that note, I know I can spawn the party via SpawnHeader and just define it as not showing in a raid, can the same be done for party pets, or should I create a function to hook the events and hide them when in a raid? |
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| 12:52.07 | haste | you'll have to use a XML template with sub-objects to spawn party pets through :SpawnHeader |
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| 12:57.19 | KnThrak | Ok |
| 12:59.41 | KnThrak | Thank you :) |
| 13:03.49 | asmodai | http://www.wowbash.com/image-14644.html |
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| 13:07.56 | Cyprias | nice |
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| 13:41.04 | kagaro | anyone done heroic pturicide in icc25? |
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| 14:07.45 | arkanes | well, I have't won |
| 14:07.48 | arkanes | but I've done the fight |
| 14:08.23 | kagaro | arkanes do you have to sacrifice people to the spreading plague? |
| 14:08.29 | arkanes | heh |
| 14:08.39 | arkanes | well, we didn't do it on purpose :P |
| 14:09.00 | arkanes | but no, I'm not sure why you would? |
| 14:09.48 | kagaro | i was just wondering, a friend was inthere last night and said they sacd 1person each time it went upand just BR/soulstoned |
| 14:10.03 | arkanes | I actually thought about that last night |
| 14:10.23 | arkanes | I'm not sure it even works, and you'd lose far too many people by the end of the fight anyway |
| 14:14.45 | Mirrormn|Sleep | I dunno, he doesn't really cast the plagues *that* often |
| 14:15.03 | Mirrormn | one per minute, about |
| 14:15.52 | Mirrormn | seems like a crutch to make up for poor communication |
| 14:16.07 | Mirrormn | and poor... lookativeness |
| 14:16.39 | Mirrormn | and more importantly, using all your soulstones and brs for that would make your margins of error for other parts of the fight much tighter |
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| 14:19.25 | arkanes | assuming that nobody died to any other portion of the fight |
| 14:19.56 | arkanes | you'd still be down 5 or more people for the most DPS intense portion of the fight |
| 14:20.10 | arkanes | or 5 or more rezzes |
| 14:20.44 | arkanes | and if you raid is *that* bad at plague, you probably have a bunch of peple who eat goo too |
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| 14:21.32 | Mirrormn | yes, that is true |
| 14:21.37 | arkanes | one time I might consider doing that is when plague is on the green ooze target |
| 14:22.08 | arkanes | but then that takes a very fast communication and response by everyone to *not* group like they normally do |
| 14:32.30 | koaschten | hmmm official logo for blizzcon shirt this year? http://tinyurl.com/2ub7pju The artist who created this really would deserve makin a few bucks from that. |
| 14:33.04 | arkanes | I'm not really sure |
| 14:33.25 | arkanes | I don't think we pay anyone except girls for public internet circlejerks |
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| 14:53.42 | harl | guess i'll have to block whispers from level 55 characters as well, just as a precaution. spam bots started to create belf death knights instead of level 1 orc locks. |
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| 16:22.23 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:23.41 | asmodai | morn Kaelten |
| 16:23.48 | asmodai | harl: they've been creating dks for a long while now |
| 16:23.51 | Kaelten | how's it going? |
| 16:24.12 | asmodai | Kaelten: hot, but got food now, so life's about to get better |
| 16:24.20 | asmodai | You? |
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| 16:25.41 | Kaelten | doing ok |
| 16:25.52 | Kaelten | tired, my sleep schedule is completely messed up |
| 16:26.14 | asmodai | Kaelten: warm there too or something? |
| 16:26.59 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0-rc2-17-gda02d79 Docs (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix a bunch of links throughout the docs. |
| 16:27.18 | asmodai | owww, halibut did gnome start area |
| 16:27.25 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoNBCKwwHD0&hd=1 |
| 16:32.37 | asmodai | heh, he's scathing about it |
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| 16:46.26 | Kaelten | asmodai: it's already in the 90s |
| 16:46.48 | Kaelten | feels like 96 |
| 16:47.03 | Kaelten | and our AC is broke |
| 16:47.13 | nevcairiel | we're at 93 or something, but our AC works |
| 16:47.22 | nevcairiel | but, i went home, and here is no ac |
| 16:47.46 | asmodai | We don't do Fahrenheit :S |
| 16:48.05 | nevcairiel | google helped me |
| 16:48.19 | nevcairiel | 34 C in F |
| 16:48.20 | nevcairiel | gogo! |
| 16:48.23 | Kaelten | 96 degrees Fahrenheit = 35.5555556 degrees Celsius |
| 16:48.26 | asmodai | recently blogged on the subject |
| 16:48.38 | asmodai | Only the US and Belize use Fahrenheit, the rest of the world uses Celcius :P |
| 16:48.54 | nevcairiel | yeah, they are just slow |
| 16:49.09 | Kaelten | asmodai: yup, we're backwards, but me trying to use C here in the US would be like you trying to use F anywhere else |
| 16:49.13 | Kaelten | same thing for km and mi |
| 16:49.40 | asmodai | Actually, there's proposals in the USA now that would do away with fl oz and such on packaging materials. All in favour of metric :) |
| 16:49.50 | Kaelten | cool |
| 16:49.54 | nevcairiel | metric just makes sense |
| 16:50.00 | nevcairiel | its logical! |
| 16:50.12 | Kaelten | I'm all for switching over to the same standards as, you know, the rest of the world |
| 16:50.22 | asmodai | Mmm, Blizz hates Centaur, got to be ;) |
| 16:54.10 | Ac-town | Kaelten: I know what you feel about the C in the US |
| 16:54.17 | Ac-town | I use it and people wtf at me lol |
| 16:54.24 | asmodai | heh |
| 16:54.38 | asmodai | It's 30 C here |
| 16:55.26 | Ac-town | the high is like 37C here |
| 16:55.31 | Ac-town | server dont like that |
| 16:55.50 | Kaelten | ugh ya |
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| 17:00.38 | Aeyan | Apparently Boubouille is reporting that the RealID thing has been cancelled |
| 17:00.50 | Aeyan | Maybe I can stop hearing about it everywhere, heh |
| 17:01.06 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.7-4-gc84e1c2 Modules/BNet.lua: [+1 commit] Removed extra call that did nothing. |
| 17:01.08 | Ac-town | on the forums at least yeah |
| 17:01.30 | Aeyan | Yeah. |
| 17:01.43 | Ac-town | and that was the only slight issue I had with it |
| 17:01.45 | Aeyan | Ah, and there's the official |
| 17:01.48 | Ac-town | the in game stuff is nice |
| 17:02.04 | Ac-town | cause I can chat across realms with my good friends/IRL friends |
| 17:06.53 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r43 MainWindow.lua: drycode fix to queue all |
| 17:14.21 | Pneumatus | yer there's a post from Morhaime up now |
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| 17:15.54 | Axodious | yay |
| 17:18.28 | Pneumatus | shame really, i was looking forward to seeing the forums die |
| 17:18.56 | Pneumatus | they do need to get rid of friends-of-friends tho |
| 17:28.52 | steev | adds pneumatus as a friend |
| 17:30.44 | pentium166 | Can you friend people on different continents? |
| 17:30.44 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:30.47 | nevcairiel | thats the only feature that would make it worth using |
| 17:31.18 | steev | i enjoy talking broken english with people i don't know |
| 17:31.59 | pentium166 | yeah, those brits need to learn to speak |
| 17:31.59 | steev | ugh |
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| 17:32.05 | steev | girlfriend's account got hacked |
| 17:32.22 | steev | not a huge deal, she hasn't logged in, in like 8 months |
| 17:33.19 | Megalon | being able to use all of battle.net with you game is so... |
| 17:33.23 | Megalon | so 1998.. |
| 17:33.49 | steev | wake me up when they let me set up empathy/pidgin with my battle.net info |
| 17:34.05 | nevcairiel | xmpp for real-id chatting, go now! |
| 17:34.44 | pentium166 | you'd be able to get data into wow from external sources oh noes! |
| 17:35.43 | steev | meh |
| 17:35.47 | steev | soe's had it for ages |
| 17:36.25 | pentium166 | it's all fun and games until someone bridges all the trade chats everywhere |
| 17:37.10 | steev | you can't do trade/general/defense chats via soe's jabber, just see what servers your friends are on, and chat with them |
| 17:37.28 | nevcairiel | just whisper |
| 17:37.30 | nevcairiel | nothing else |
| 17:37.32 | steev | http://trac.adium.im/ticket/4872 OPENED *4* years ago |
| 17:37.40 | pentium166 | whisper -> addon -> trade |
| 17:37.51 | nevcairiel | but who wants trade |
| 17:37.53 | nevcairiel | its just spam |
| 17:37.59 | pentium166 | that's what i mean :p |
| 17:38.01 | steev | trade -> 3 hour suspension |
| 17:38.12 | pentium166 | i wasn't serious anyway |
| 17:40.54 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.56 | steev | aww |
| 17:41.01 | steev | my subs are both closed |
| 17:41.26 | steev | i reup every year when they offer the week free or what not |
| 17:41.43 | steev | Original Activation Date: June 26, 2003 |
| 17:41.56 | steev | eesh, can't believe i started playing SWG over 7 years ago |
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| 17:45.14 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r11 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 17:45.16 | Repo | Moved functions from global to addon namespace |
| 17:45.17 | Repo | Slightly optimized AceConfig options table |
| 17:45.19 | Repo | Removed anonymous timer callbacks |
| 17:45.21 | Repo | Localized some spell names |
| 17:46.18 | Mirrormn | that's kind of creepy really |
| 17:48.42 | Ackis | steev: lol nice |
| 17:48.50 | Ackis | what's the URL to check that? |
| 17:49.04 | Ackis | I was on my SWG forum profile earlier in the week, didn't give me a start date |
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| 17:49.34 | Kaelten | steev: ya adium has not had much active development recently |
| 18:00.00 | [Ammo] | I need to create a site "find wow players" |
| 18:00.16 | [Ammo] | it will mine the forums using random 10 day guest accounts and teh like |
| 18:00.26 | [Ammo] | and provide information on real life names |
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| 18:00.42 | [Ammo] | their posts, their 192.com spokeo.com ratings etc |
| 18:00.47 | [Ammo] | all in one handy interface |
| 18:01.12 | nevcairiel | too late, they abandoned their real life name planes |
| 18:01.21 | nevcairiel | -e |
| 18:01.33 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 18:01.34 | [Ammo] | when |
| 18:01.38 | [Ammo] | I must have missed something |
| 18:01.40 | genetik- | 30 minutes ago? |
| 18:01.41 | nevcairiel | just earlier today |
| 18:01.41 | Stanzilla | a few hours ago |
| 18:01.42 | [Ammo] | it was still hot 2 hours ago |
| 18:01.43 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 18:01.44 | Stanzilla | or so |
| 18:01.47 | Stanzilla | 1 hour maybe :D |
| 18:01.49 | [Ammo] | damn damdna damn |
| 18:01.53 | [Ammo] | there goes my MMF |
| 18:02.02 | Stanzilla | [Ammo]: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:02.46 | Mirrormn | is there someone here who would be so kind as to approve my addon on wowace.com? |
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| 18:03.52 | [Ammo] | Mirrormn: depends on sexual favors mate |
| 18:04.10 | Mirrormn | I already ran out of sexual favors for the day -.- |
| 18:04.15 | Mirrormn | I like to get started early |
| 18:04.24 | Ackis | TO ME |
| 18:04.27 | [Ammo] | well did you make the required changes? :) |
| 18:04.32 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lkannounce/. LKAnnounce. Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 18:04.37 | Mirrormn | indeed |
| 18:04.38 | [Ammo] | damn ackis |
| 18:04.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-stonegui/. Stone GUI Library. zys924 (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 18:04.47 | [Ammo] | such a dick :p |
| 18:04.50 | Ackis | haha |
| 18:04.50 | [Ammo] | hate that guy |
| 18:04.54 | [Ammo] | specially his drycode shizzle |
| 18:04.58 | Ackis | me too |
| 18:04.59 | Ackis | ackis sucks |
| 18:05.01 | nevcairiel | ew Ackis approved that ugly library |
| 18:05.08 | [Ammo] | and no blizzard is depriving me of money made of real names |
| 18:05.12 | [Ammo] | I hate them too |
| 18:05.15 | [Ammo] | yeah stonegui is shit |
| 18:05.24 | [Ammo] | I hate everyone |
| 18:05.39 | Mirrormn | O.o "This project has no files!"? |
| 18:05.58 | [Ammo] | except the fact I'm going to be an uncle in january which is the awesome news of the day |
| 18:06.09 | [Ammo] | my son might finally have a nephew :) |
| 18:06.22 | Funkeh` | wooo real names on forums cancelled |
| 18:06.27 | Cyprias | yay |
| 18:06.36 | Ackis | grats [Ammo] :D |
| 18:06.52 | Funkeh` | betting the whole blizz respresentative having his privacy destroyed by posting his real name had something to do with that |
| 18:07.12 | nevcairiel | Blizz employees are already known by real name |
| 18:07.19 | [Ammo] | what the evil internet did to him was a bit much, but it got the point across quite nicely |
| 18:07.20 | nevcairiel | why do people always ignore that fact |
| 18:07.29 | [Ammo] | s/nicely/efficient/ |
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| 18:12.03 | quiescens | moo? |
| 18:12.20 | Kaelten | woot, managed to jailbreak and unlock my old 3G |
| 18:12.34 | quiescens | reported |
| 18:12.40 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:12.51 | Shefki | I'm personally calling Steve Jobs to let him know one of his phones has been violated. |
| 18:13.07 | Shefki | Expect the SWAT team soon. |
| 18:13.12 | Ackis | nevcairiel: which is why I moved that library to CF :P |
| 18:13.20 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 18:13.42 | nevcairiel | better call steve jobs to let him know that his latest phone kinda sucks |
| 18:13.57 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Already did thhat. |
| 18:14.08 | Shefki | Couldn't get ahold of him, he must have been out of coverage. |
| 18:14.09 | quiescens | swat team is clearly out of character |
| 18:14.40 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:14.48 | quiescens | picturing more like, you know, suit types, but white instead of black |
| 18:14.49 | Ackis | nevcairiel: you should deal with the report on wowace, I need a lulz today |
| 18:14.52 | Kaelten | Shefki: na he was just downloading a song on his verizon test phone and couldn't receive a call |
| 18:15.00 | quiescens | or something silly |
| 18:15.06 | nevcairiel | Ackis: i read it and kinda closed the browser |
| 18:15.16 | Shefki | *sush* we don't talk about that. |
| 18:15.32 | nevcairiel | It was too stupid |
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| 18:15.55 | Ackis | I went one step further and came onto IRC to tell you to deal with it lol |
| 18:16.03 | quiescens | who's life did you ruin this time? |
| 18:16.31 | nevcairiel | someone is reporting a project now because he didnt get feedback about his tickets |
| 18:16.38 | nevcairiel | i was like .. wtf |
| 18:16.46 | quiescens | kill them |
| 18:16.57 | quiescens | kill them all |
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| 18:21.06 | koaschten | Kaelten why would you jailbreak and unlock a 3g? Can't you just go to your carrier after the 2 year contract is over and tell him to unlock it? (at least i can over here= |
| 18:21.35 | Ac-town | koaschten: I think jailbreak != unlock |
| 18:21.42 | Ac-town | its more like custom apps |
| 18:21.58 | arkanes_ | yeah they're different things |
| 18:22.00 | koaschten | well you need to jailbreak for an unlock and thats specifically what Kaelten said ;) |
| 18:22.07 | arkanes_ | you need to jailbreak in order to unlock without your carriers help |
| 18:22.14 | arkanes_ | but other than that they're unrelated |
| 18:22.41 | Kaelten | not here |
| 18:22.56 | Kaelten | afaik att won't unlock a phone for you |
| 18:23.02 | Kaelten | sylvanaar_atwork: ping |
| 18:23.16 | koaschten | suxx :/ |
| 18:23.33 | Ackis | I'm going to have that battle once my contract expires |
| 18:23.48 | Kaelten | I did it because I'm looking at selling it |
| 18:23.54 | Kaelten | and they generally sell for more if they ship unlocked |
| 18:24.00 | koaschten | but not as much as me getting my 3g 2 years ago in august but my carrier starting the new contract on januar the following year.... |
| 18:24.13 | Ackis | figure if I'm bored enough I'll just file papers in small claims court and sue for the value of the phone |
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| 18:25.51 | dlat | Shefki: hey, could a fix like sexless be included in blizzbugsuck? i can't imagine that such an annoying behavior is intended ;) |
| 18:26.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | Kaelten: hm |
| 18:26.31 | Kaelten | sylvanaar_atwork: where did you sell your old iphone? |
| 18:26.45 | sylvanaar_atwork | Kaelten: ebay |
| 18:26.47 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r571 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update |
| 18:26.50 | Kaelten | nice |
| 18:27.00 | Kaelten | looks like prices have gone up on 3G |
| 18:27.02 | Shefki | dlat: sexless? |
| 18:27.16 | dlat | Shefki: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sexless/ |
| 18:27.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | Kaelten: there is a great market for used iphones |
| 18:27.38 | Kaelten | sylvanaar_atwork: I just wiped, jailbroke, and unlocked my old 3g |
| 18:27.46 | Kaelten | so ya, looking at posting it |
| 18:27.59 | arkanes_ | did you have a jailbnreak for os4.0? |
| 18:28.04 | arkanes_ | or did you just not upgrade? |
| 18:28.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | Kaelten: gonna try to sell it unlocked for big bucks? |
| 18:29.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh i see you just said that |
| 18:31.13 | Kaelten | arkanes_: it's running the latest OS |
| 18:31.19 | quiescens | rig it to spontaneously combust and then sue for moneys |
| 18:31.22 | Kaelten | I even activated multitasking, backgrounds, and a few othe features |
| 18:31.49 | arkanes_ | what jailbreak did you use? |
| 18:32.21 | arkanes_ | Mines still on 3.1.2 I think, cause I used blackra1n and I use the iphone mobile auth and don't want to screw it up right now |
| 18:33.02 | Kaelten | arkanes_: pwnagetool |
| 18:34.02 | arkanes_ | maybe I'll take some time this weekend to do it right |
| 18:34.54 | koaschten | i like my 3g, because it's still on 3.0.1 and allows tethering without paying the provider ;) |
| 18:35.33 | Kaelten | koaschten: iirc can't you enable that once you jailbreak too? |
| 18:35.46 | koaschten | actually, no idea :) |
| 18:36.02 | arkanes_ | I know theres some apps on the cydia store that enable tethering |
| 18:36.12 | arkanes_ | I've never used one, or tried to do it without paying the 20 bucks |
| 18:39.16 | koaschten | well i have no bad concious doing so, in theory i have a second sim in a drawer which i am allowed to use in a usb stick anyway, because i have an old contract that doesn't say "you are not allowed to use the sim in anything beside the iphone" ;) |
| 18:39.35 | koaschten | i just save the money for buying the usb stick ;) |
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| 18:54.09 | stolenlegacy | what's the earliest time where talent tree info (name and icon) are available on fresh logon? |
| 18:54.56 | [Ammo] | lvl10? |
| 18:55.05 | stolenlegacy | no |
| 18:55.10 | stolenlegacy | i mean when the user logs in (no reload) |
| 18:55.16 | stolenlegacy | gettalenttabinfo returns nil on load |
| 18:55.19 | [Ammo] | player login should do it? |
| 18:55.21 | stolenlegacy | and on player_entering_world too |
| 18:55.28 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 18:55.42 | [Ammo] | some talent_ event then probbaly |
| 18:55.44 | stolenlegacy | player_talents_changed doesn't even seem to fire |
| 18:55.47 | stolenlegacy | on logon |
| 18:55.58 | stolenlegacy | brb logging events |
| 18:56.26 | stolenlegacy | active_talent_group_changed isn't it either |
| 18:57.13 | [Ammo] | checking some random addons they take an arbitrary 5 seconds after login |
| 18:57.18 | [Ammo] | which seems bullshit to me |
| 18:57.39 | Shadowed | stolenlegacy: PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 18:57.48 | Shadowed | after a reload, the data is available instantly so you use something like |
| 18:57.56 | stolenlegacy | yes, yes |
| 18:58.00 | Shadowed | if( not IsPlayerLoggedIn() ) then registerevent("PLAYER_LOGIN") else PLAYER_LOGIN end |
| 18:58.04 | Shadowed | or whatever the function is called |
| 18:58.15 | stolenlegacy | i just try to fetch data |
| 18:58.19 | stolenlegacy | if it returns nil, register event |
| 18:58.32 | Shadowed | You could also do that, but PLAYER_LOGIN is what you want, it's what LHC uses |
| 18:58.50 | [Ammo] | player_login seems the correct event |
| 19:02.26 | stolenlegacy | local f = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 19:02.26 | stolenlegacy | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() |
| 19:02.26 | stolenlegacy | print(GetTalentTabInfo(1)) |
| 19:02.26 | stolenlegacy | end) |
| 19:02.26 | stolenlegacy | f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN") |
| 19:02.32 | stolenlegacy | nil nil 0 nil 0 |
| 19:05.34 | Pneumatus | !api demote |
| 19:05.34 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'demote': DemoteAssistant, GuildDemote, CanGuildDemote |
| 19:05.43 | Pneumatus | !api GuildDemote |
| 19:05.43 | lua_bot | GuildDemote: Reduces a guild member's rank by one (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GuildDemote) |
| 19:06.47 | stolenlegacy | Shadowed, [Ammo]: PLAYER_ALIVE does it |
| 19:09.52 | Aens|Superiority | Does anyone know if in chatter if you can restrict the automatic whisper windows to only realid? |
| 19:13.10 | kagaro | Aens|Superiority: no it triggers on any whisper |
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| 19:19.35 | Torhal | stabs Ackis with the WoWAce Rubber Stamp. |
| 19:27.21 | stolenlegacy | real id cancelled |
| 19:27.22 | stolenlegacy | cheers |
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| 19:27.29 | stolenlegacy | the shitstorm consumed them |
| 19:29.07 | Thaoky | the legislation of several EU countries probably played a big role in this decision |
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| 19:31.59 | Megalon | na, they just hold their faces into the wind of success and suddenly, shit hit the fan |
| 19:33.54 | Thaoky | :) |
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| 19:37.47 | Shadowed | stolenlegacy: Not sure why you would want to use PLAYER_ALIVE rather than PLAYER_LOGIn, but yes :p |
| 19:37.52 | Shadowed | PLAYER_ALIVE comes after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 19:38.20 | stolenlegacy | Shadowed: because PLAYER_LOGIN does not have talent information available |
| 19:38.29 | Shadowed | stolenlegacy you're doing it wrong then |
| 19:38.29 | stolenlegacy | posted the script i used a few lines up |
| 19:38.35 | Shadowed | because LHC40 initializes on PLAYER_LOGIn and it works fine :p |
| 19:38.50 | stolenlegacy | all i can say is that for me, PLAYER_LOGIN does not have talent info |
| 19:39.06 | Shadowed | You're doing it wrong, I assure you :P |
| 19:39.27 | Shadowed | Something to keep in mind |
| 19:39.49 | stolenlegacy | kk |
| 19:39.50 | stolenlegacy | ^^ |
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| 20:12.13 | stolenlegacy | any way to report PM spamming? |
| 20:19.07 | stolenlegacy | just gonna leave spammer's profile here and go to sleep i guess |
| 20:19.09 | stolenlegacy | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/elizamark/ |
| 20:19.10 | stolenlegacy | night |
| 20:23.34 | orionshock | what happened to the RealID in EU ? |
| 20:26.39 | Repo | 10jebusminimapcoords: 03jebus905 * r5 JebusMinimapCoords.lua: Should no longer be polluting the global namespace |
| 20:29.12 | Repo | 10cartographer_minimap_coords: 03jebus905 * r36 Cartographer_Minimap_Coords.lua: Cartographer_Minimap_Coords: |
| 20:29.13 | Repo | - Should no longer be polluting the global namespace |
| 20:29.45 | orionshock | someone should tell jebus905 |
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| 20:29.53 | orionshock | not to hit old repos that should be dead |
| 20:30.09 | nevcairiel | he is doing the same project twice now o.O |
| 20:31.06 | orionshock | some one should move it to CF |
| 20:31.10 | orionshock | IMO |
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| 20:40.23 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r78 JebusMail.lua: JebusMail: |
| 20:40.25 | Repo | - Should no longer pollute the global namespace |
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| 20:48.22 | Torhal | I marked jebusminimapcoords as Changes Required and explained that if his JebusMiniMapCoords:OnEnable() couldn't see his JebusMiniMapCoords_OnLoad, he should move the latter's declaration to be before the former's instead of putting the function in the global namespace |
| 20:48.44 | Torhal | I guess he decided to make that change to all of his stuff |
| 20:49.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7521 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
| 20:49.43 | arkanes_ | Torhal: you've increased the amount of good in the universe, then |
| 20:49.46 | arkanes_ | so you should be happy |
| 20:49.53 | Torhal | Heh |
| 20:50.50 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/jebusminimapcoords/. JebusMiniMapCoords. jebus905 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 20:57.45 | Repo | 10cartographer_minimap_coords: 03jebus905 * r37 Cartographer_Minimap_Coords.toc: Cartographer_Minimap_Coords: |
| 20:57.46 | Repo | - update version code |
| 20:58.07 | Repo | 10cartographer_minimap_coords: 03jebus905 04v3.30b * r38 : Cartographer_Minimap_Coords: |
| 20:58.08 | Repo | - Should no longer be polluting the global namespace |
| 20:58.45 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r79 JebusMail.toc: JebusMail: |
| 20:58.47 | Repo | - update version info |
| 20:59.03 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.30g * r80 : JebusMail: |
| 20:59.04 | Repo | - |
| 21:00.13 | Repo | 10jebusminimapcoords: 03jebus905 043.3.5a * r6 : Beta Push |
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| 22:28.34 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v5.0.2.8 * r572 : Tagging as v5.0.2.8 |
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| 22:46.08 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r503 RaidWatch_Plugins/Controller.lua: #RaidWatch_Plugins/Controller: |
| 22:46.10 | Repo | - Added current role (Tank, Healer, Melee, Caster) to the title. |
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| 22:55.51 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r185 channelnames.lua: tweak custom channel replacement to work on russian. |
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| 22:58.46 | harl | so now that they won't add a poster's real name to the forums any more, maybe they can completely strip that part from battle.net's in-game implementation as well? |
| 23:00.33 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r186 sticky.lua: |
| 23:00.35 | Repo | sticky: added a comment to hopefully make it even simpler for people to understand how to unsticky whispers... |
| 23:00.43 | Megalon | can't.. strip.. must.. jump... social...network..bandwagon |
| 23:01.03 | ben | I would be happy if they just made the friends of friends thing optional |
| 23:01.33 | Funkeh` | hopefully thry will after the forum fiasco |
| 23:02.13 | harl | it's not as if the basic concept of nick names would be something they'd need to forge arguments as shallow as the ones they are using for broadcasting real names either, imho. |
| 23:03.50 | harl | why not enable everyone to set-up a fixed (as in unchangeable) kind of nick name with their battle.net account setting that would be shown to other players instead of a real name. |
| 23:05.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-29-ge150a64 / (7 files in 2 directories): [+12 commits] (8 truncated) |
| 23:05.33 | Repo | e150a64: Removed parameters from SortRecipeList() since their references never deviate. |
| 23:05.34 | Repo | 3925609: In Scanner.lua - renamed SortRecipeList() to SortRecipesByID() since Frame.lua has a function by that name which works differently. |
| 23:05.34 | harl | nick names and code names have been around a long time before the internet, for the very same reasons, not to avoid accountability, but to preserve the privacy of certain people. |
| 23:05.36 | Repo | 3a9b2ef: twipe --> table.wipe |
| 23:05.36 | Repo | d6a3c21: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline |
| 23:06.27 | harl | they should take that into consideration before going anywhere further. |
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| 23:20.58 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.17 * 51b86fa /: [new tag, +1 commits] tag as v1.10.17 |
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| 23:26.20 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.17-6-g095f455 / (8 files in 3 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 23:26.22 | Repo | 095f455: Merge branch 'clparse2' |
| 23:26.23 | Repo | 9036b73: update changelog |
| 23:26.24 | Repo | b6bbf9d: ApplyConfig -> ChangeProfile() |
| 23:26.25 | Repo | 64c90d7: cleanup |
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| 23:31.29 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r187 urlcopy.lua: URLCopy: Scan bnet whispers/conversations. |
| 23:34.07 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 23:34.26 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, re-write that module for me please |
| 23:34.28 | Funkeh` | cba |
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| 23:35.42 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: naaah |
| 23:35.48 | Stanzilla | your users would hate me |
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| 23:41.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-30-gbe74a12 Frame.lua: [+1 commit] Partial revert of SortRecipeList() parameter removal - recipe_list is different depending on which tab is showing. |
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