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00:39.20steev_osxckknight_ eh, linkinus is okay - maybe i just haven't seen the powa of it or something
00:39.30steev_osxor maybe i just have the crappy default theme
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00:39.32ckknight_did you get 2.0?
00:39.39steev_osxi have 2.0 yeah
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00:40.02ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgS6qLsVM4
00:40.12steev_osxhaha
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00:40.24steev_osxokay now i see
00:43.00ckknightimages work, too
00:43.05steev_osxthats kinda spiffy
00:43.19steev_osxalthough i can see it getting me in trouble depending on where i am ;)
00:43.26ckknightlol
00:43.40steev_osxspecially in some channels im in
00:43.46ckknighthttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1248827825393.jpg
00:44.17steev_osxthats somewhat disturbing
00:44.39ckknightno rebuttal
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00:48.08steev_osxgetting ready for uld25 :/
00:48.44XtekSo glad I stopped raiding.
00:48.49XtekUlduar go really old, really fast.
00:48.53Xtekgot*
00:49.26XtekHope no one in here uses Network Solutions... http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26552/53/
00:49.35steev_osxthe data breach?
00:50.08Xtekyeah
00:50.31steev_osxshrug can happen with any company really
00:50.37steev_osxand yeah, uld is very old
00:50.53XtekIt's just really bad content.
00:50.58steev_osxsadly, i want the retarded achievements that i know i won't get til level 90 is available
00:51.06XtekThey hotfix something every couple of days.
00:51.09steev_osxbecause there are too many people in our guild who don't bother trying
00:51.18XtekHah, we have the opposite problem.
00:51.32XtekAll people want to do is achievements and not worry about progressing.
00:51.43XtekLike wiping over and over to get Iron Dwarf Medium Rare.
00:52.46ckknightXtek: hey, I know you
00:52.56Xtek:O!
00:52.57XtekLIes.
00:53.06steev_osxer
00:53.16XtekI think I had lunch with you.
00:53.17steev_osxi'd rather not wipe over and over - stuff like that
00:53.42steev_osxno - but the other stuff like whats needed for the mount (why, i don't know since i don't actually have epic flying)
00:53.50XtekI stopped raiding I think my guild got 25 man drakes.
00:54.12steev_osxwe still haven't done 3d
00:54.17Xtekah
00:54.26steev_osxwe should f'n outgear the damn instance
00:54.40steev_osxi mean i'm in pretty much all uld10+ gear
00:54.47XtekI actually stopped raiding after I got the mount from 3D.
00:54.55steev_osxi think the only thing i still have that isn't is one of my trinkets?
00:55.01steev_osxactually, both trinkets
00:55.31XtekIf it makes you feel any better I was doing Mimron Hard Mode with a blue trinket still... just couldn't seem to get one.
00:58.23steev_osxi still have a blue trinket
00:58.34steev_osxthe haste one from UP
00:58.57XtekI use the tooth one, with armor pen.
00:59.18steev_osxdunno that one
00:59.29steev_osxim using mirror of truth and meteorite whetstone
00:59.47steev_osxand like 4 of our top dpsers are currently "taking a break" from raiding
00:59.48Xtekhttp://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=37723
01:00.10steev_osxso the liklihood of us hitting any hard modes are gonna be slim to noner
01:00.29Xteksummer time usually does that
01:00.38steev_osxckknight: so is there a linkinus theme that makes stuff like those links show the items with javascripty goodness?
01:00.53ckknightnot sure
01:00.55ckknightpossibly
01:01.06Xteka what for the huh?
01:01.15ckknightlinkinus is an IRC client
01:01.16ckknightI use it
01:01.24Xtekooh
01:01.28steev_osxand i am testing it
01:01.43XtekI use mIRC with NNScript.
01:03.05Funkeh`is there anything tailors can make that actually makes money
01:03.45Xtekbags
01:03.51steev_osxyeah, bags
01:03.57Xtekand patterns from Ulduar
01:04.00Megalonfor teabagging
01:05.07Funkeh`well ive got high enchanting and tailoring on my warrior, keeping enchanting but cant remember why I had tailoring
01:05.12Funkeh`wondering wether I should dump it
01:06.35steev_osxyes
01:07.23XtekSo I asked my cable company to come by on Saturday and I get a call just now confirming for tomorrow morning...
01:09.22Megalonyou are not prepared
01:10.02Funkeh`I think ill just take mining
01:10.15Funkeh`LW for the chant would be too expensive to level
01:10.21Megalonwell, the back enchants from tailoring are quite good
01:10.34StanzillaFunkeh`: tailoring on your warrior? ^^
01:10.38Stanzillacute :P
01:10.46Funkeh`I didn't do it
01:11.03Megaloni mean, for warrior you got haste/agi, which ain't good, so the 300ap proc is awesome for warriors on that slot
01:11.19Arrowmasterthere was a warrior on my realm with tailoring, one of the best tanks on the server
01:11.46Arrowmasterwhen he droped it for blacksmithing when TBC came out i finally ended up the only tailor on the realm with gloves of arcane mastery
01:12.48Funkeh`lol
01:13.25Funkeh`Megalon, can you link me that?
01:20.51Funkeh`I cant seem to locate them on wowhead at least
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01:23.55Funkeh`Megalon, ?
01:30.19StanzillaFunkeh`: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=55777
01:31.25Funkeh`the only good melee thing? what about tanking or something?
01:31.53Stanzillathere are only 3 back enchants afaik
01:31.57Stanzillaspellpower, mana gain and that one
01:33.28Funkeh`mm
01:33.33Funkeh`not sure it's worth keeping tailoring then
01:33.39Funkeh`not unique enough
01:35.58Stanzillaso you want to play tank, dps or both?
01:36.20Funkeh`tank
01:37.42Stanzillablacksmith and mining/jewelcrafting are cool for tanks
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01:43.43RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/abandoned-and-inactive-projects/ by Ackis
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01:53.15Stanzillatekkub: how does GoodNewsEveryone currently look? is it the spell icon that pops up or text?
01:54.03tekkubicon text and time left
01:54.39Stanzillagot a screenshot? :P
01:55.05tekkubno
01:55.32fewynhmmm is there an addon that tells you what buffs you may be missing?
01:55.55Stanzillafewyn: whole raid or only for yourself?
01:56.10fewynmyself mainly
01:56.26StanzillaI use SimpleSelfRebuff but there is cork, too
01:59.27fewynjust looking to give me a list of buffs i'm missing so i can yell at people =p
02:00.01fewyncork looks good
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02:39.29steev_osxajsldkjfalskjfalkjsf
02:39.56steev_osxcalled it at freaking auyoria
02:40.02steev_osxhowever its spelled
02:40.56steev_osx(i agree 100% with the calling of it too :/ )
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02:47.38steev_osxgrr, wth
02:47.49steev_osxevery time i sign my damn rogue in his talent points have been reset
02:50.54Repo10prescription: 03Starinnia * r123 / (3 files in 2 directories):
02:50.57Repo-add zhTW and zhCN locale files since there have been translations in the webapp
02:51.00Repo-also updating ruRU locale
02:56.35Repo10acegui-30-spell-editbox: 03Shadowed 07master * a35668e / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] * Initial Import: Let's see if this works
02:57.13fewynwtb something that tells me who pushed the button in mimiron's room
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03:07.28XtekI don't like Repo.
03:11.43Ackisoh?
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11:58.14Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r69 / (3 files in 1 directory): Do not embed LibDataBroker-1.1 anymore.
11:58.17RepoLDB launcher is now optional.
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12:48.50kapowazhey there. Looking for some Macro help.
12:49.08kapowazcan anyone confirm if it's possible to have text output from a macro in the middle of a cast sequence?
12:49.13kapowazand if so, how?
12:56.04nevcairielthats not possible, afaik
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13:13.10kapowazin that case, is it possible to emulate the functionality of cast sequence without using /castsequence ?
13:13.27kapowazto be more clear about what I'm trying to do, I want to use Mik's Scrolling Battle Text's API to output a message
13:16.06Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r82 / (5 files in 1 directory): first version
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13:25.18Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r215 / (5 files in 1 directory): beql:
13:25.21Repo- fix tooltip (experimental)
13:25.24Repo- fix tracker lock/unlock problem
13:30.08vhaarrkapowaz: no, that's not possible
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13:32.11kapowazbummer
13:32.32kapowazpresumably it'd be possible to emulate the entire behaviour of /castsequence via an addon?
13:32.37vhaarrno
13:33.19Angelikehi
13:33.23kapowazseriously?
13:33.39kapowazthat seems very odd
13:33.41nevcairielIt is actually possible to rebuild castsequence, but its a shitload of work
13:33.57kapowazyeah, I'm not trying to gloss over that aspect of it
13:34.04kapowazbut technically it should be feasible
13:34.06vhaarr"no" is the answer you want
13:34.11kapowazis it?
13:34.13vhaarryes
13:34.20kapowazwhy's that?
13:34.20nevcairielI wouldnt recommend trying it
13:34.29vhaarrbecause as nev says, it's too much work
13:34.33vhaarrfor no gain
13:34.39nevcairielYou can do what you want on other ways
13:34.41kapowazwell, not no gain
13:34.45kapowazI can?
13:34.45nevcairielyou can query which spell the macro is on
13:34.47vhaarryou're better off hooking your spell cast events and printing a message then
13:34.51Angelikei've an error in my project reposetory, can somone help me
13:34.57vhaarrAngelike: ckknight  can
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13:35.17kapowazhow do you hook a spell cast event, then?
13:35.26Angelikeok
13:35.30vhaarrdepends what you want
13:35.41kapowazwell, I want to execute a line of lua with /script
13:35.50kapowaztwice within a rotation
13:35.52vhaarrif you only want to print messages when a particular macro is used, or if you want to print on every spell cast
13:35.55kapowazat specific points
13:36.11kapowazsay that I have spells A, B, C and D in the rotation
13:36.31kapowazand my rotation is A A B (script) C D D
13:36.42nevcairielthats certainly possible
13:36.44kapowazand at (script) and at the end I want to execute two separate lines of script
13:36.45nevcairieljust look for a cast of B
13:37.24kapowazactually, it'd probably be more accurate if I said the real rotation, as I reckon the repeated usage of the same ability at different stages would be awkward
13:37.46kapowazA, A, B, (script) B, A, A, A, A
13:38.12kapowazif you output after every B, it'll say it at the wrong stage after the second usage
13:38.17vhaarrye it's no problem
13:38.26kapowazand since I also want one at the end of the rotation, I can't have it hooked to every use of A
13:38.29vhaarryou need to make an addon
13:38.32kapowazheh
13:39.10kapowazwhat version of Lua does WoW use?
13:39.12vhaarrfirst figure out how to listen for your own spells being cast and how to get the name
13:39.44krkaa customized version of 5.1
13:43.17Pneumatusvhaarr: would you consider a patch to set BigWigs.revision to X-Curse-Packaged-Version if it exists?
13:44.05vhaarrno
13:44.57vhaarrI'd accept a patch that removes the About window
13:45.17Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r259 / (7 files in 5 directories): Simplified how modules add column configuration.
13:45.30Pneumatusthe about window is auto-created from aceoptions isnt it
13:45.41vhaarryes, it's part of AceAddon-2.0
13:46.46orionshockvhaarr: could always rewrite BW for ace3
13:47.28vhaarrwe are, it's just taking long because we don't agree on some things
13:48.09orionshockah yes.. the joys of collaborative projects.
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13:48.24kapowazwut
13:48.29vhaarrgod he's so useless
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13:48.34vhaarranyway time for a reboot
13:48.37kapowazfrankly, you seem a little tetchy
13:48.41kapowazno need to get so wound up
13:48.51kapowazasshat
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13:51.02orionshockimo it was just a friendly joke. more like empathy than a ruler to the knuckles ...
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13:51.25kapowazyeah, I guess if you know the guy
13:51.43kapowazI've just always frowned upon people who kick from IRC channels for fun
13:51.56kapowazit just seems very childish, and this is a developer IRC network.
13:52.04kapowazwe're not on EFNet or something
13:52.06orionshockwell not like it's undeserved... i can be a bit of an asshat..
13:52.11kapowazheh
13:52.45kapowazI think I ought to spec up my addon and then hire somebody to write it for me
13:53.09kapowazit could be quite useful
13:53.58kapowazimagine an addon that lets you define any number of rotations, along with supplementary scriptable commands (such as the aforementioned MSBT text output) that you can then use within a macro (and thus bind to a key/actionbar button)
13:54.29kapowazstraw poll: would you use such an addon?
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13:54.37Pneumatusno
13:54.44kapowazwhat class do you play? :)
13:54.48Pneumatusall of them
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13:55.13kapowazso you don't use rotation macros for (for example) a hunter?
13:55.21Pneumatusno
13:55.28kapowazcurious
13:55.42Wobinhunter macro is fail
13:55.53Wobinyou have a priority ranking and that's all you need
13:55.56Pneumatuscastsequence generally fails, regardless
13:56.28kapowazI'm not saying it's foolproof
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13:56.41Wobinabout all it's useful for are test dummies =)
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13:56.44Pneumatusonly thing i use castsequence for is arena buffing
13:56.46kapowazthere's a difference between “works 100% of the time” and “fail”, though
13:56.59kapowazas in, they're not either/or
13:57.01Wobinmost encounters aren't conducive to a cast macro
13:58.50kadrahilhunter macros haven't really worked like that since BC
13:58.54kadrahilwith steady shot spam :P
13:58.58Adirelle|workgiven the CD differences between hunter skills, including DoT renewal, you should unroll every case to have an efficient cast sequence
13:59.14Adirelle|worklet alone the LnL proc that would screw up any rotation
13:59.14Wobinugh
13:59.17Pneumatusnot to mention breaks for moving :)
13:59.21kadrahil^
13:59.33kadrahilah the old days of SS spam
13:59.35kapowazI only used hunters as an example; I don't play a hunter
13:59.43WobinMM spec would drive me insane to figure out a fixed rotation
13:59.47kadrahiland pulling 3.3k dps at 70
13:59.50kapowazI do know that a hunter in my guild uses a macro for rotations though
14:00.04Adirelle|workfire him
14:00.07kapowazI'm actually thinking about DK DPS rotations here mostly
14:00.08Wobinhow's his dps?
14:00.13kapowazit's good
14:00.22kapowaznot amazing, but accordingly in line with his gear
14:00.29kadrahilkapowaz: there was a post on the DK blood thread on the EJ forums about castsequence macros, but i don't like the idea of using them
14:00.31Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r132 BossNotesFrame.xml: Layering for portrait.
14:00.32Wobincompared to other hunters?
14:00.42kapowazwithin our guild, yes.
14:00.53kadrahili think it was actually the original poster of that thread that supported them
14:01.12kapowazI don't really go around comparing WWS logs between other members of our guild and people not in the guild
14:01.19kapowazkadrahil: if it's the Blood Simple thread then, yes
14:01.21Wobinwhat sort of dps does he do?
14:01.21kadrahilhe had moue wheel down bound to a castsequence macro for his rotation, and mouse wheel up bound to death coil to dump RP
14:01.26kadrahilkapowaz: yeah
14:01.26kapowazyes
14:01.30kadrahilWobin: no clue.
14:01.31Wobinkadrahil: hehe I read that one
14:01.31kapowazI think it should work
14:01.45kapowazall of the attacks are instant, and assuming you're hit capped they shouldn't fail
14:01.52kadrahiltheoretically, but you'll screw it up if you move and break rotation, won't you?
14:02.09kapowazhow would moving affect the rotation?
14:02.19kadrahilwell i guess the macro remembers the next button in sequence
14:02.23kadrahiler, action
14:02.25Wobingenerally rotations aren't really time limited
14:02.26kadrahilso that was dumb.
14:02.30Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2175 Core/WishList.lua: - Fix Default Wishlist bug
14:02.30Wobinnot for DK
14:02.32kapowazyes, that's what /castsequence is all about ;)
14:02.35Repo10analyst: 03Bethink * r46 / (11 files in 2 directories): Session statistics.
14:02.38RepoProfiles.
14:02.39kadrahilWobin: they are if you're trying to get it in before diseases fall off
14:02.45Wobintrue...
14:02.52kadrahiland as blood i find that my diseases always fall off at the very last bit
14:02.53Wobinwas that a diseaseless spec, though?
14:03.04kadrahilwhich is fine because i am always a split second from refreshing them anyway
14:03.14Wobinthat's really the only time I'd trust a castsequence
14:03.16kapowazkadrahil: yeah, mine usually do, but I've just changed to 2/2 in Epidemic
14:03.25kadrahilWobin: no, i think he was using standard 51/0/20
14:03.31Wobinhm
14:03.38kadrahilkapowaz: i have 2/2 and they still do >.<
14:03.39kapowazI followed a DK in my guild who uses 1/2 Epidemic for my spec, but always had that problem
14:03.47kapowazyeah, that's always possible
14:03.58kapowazit requires you to be very quick with your casts
14:03.59Pneumatusdont they have to adjust for IT misses?
14:04.02kadrahili mean the time they're down is negligable in a 5 minute fight
14:04.34kapowazPneumatus: because it's a spell, you mean?
14:04.35WobinPneumatus: not if they're hitcapped
14:04.45kapowazif you're not spell hitcapped then IT can still miss, yes
14:04.59kapowazwhich is why it's not foolproof 100% of the time
14:05.03Wobinit's not -too- difficult to get spell hitcapped
14:05.19kapowaztrue, but as Blood that's a really big waste of itemisation
14:05.21kadrahilif you've got enough hit to get spell hit capped with virulence, you're missing out on better stats
14:05.25kapowazexactly
14:05.31kadrahilthe only time i would ever advise that is for interrupting on vezax
14:05.31Wobintrue
14:05.33kadrahil(which i do)
14:05.46kadrahili swap in one piece of hit gear to get to the spell hit cap so MF doesn't miss :P
14:05.47Wobinthen again, none of my gems are for hit
14:05.52kadrahilWobin: good
14:05.58kadrahilkeep it that way ;)
14:05.59Wobinbut the gear provides enough
14:06.06kapowazanyhow I think I'll just have to try using my macro without the lovely MSBT message
14:06.07kadrahilhit comes a plenty on gear
14:06.13WobinI just don't have a wide enough choice to swap in and out much =)
14:06.14kapowaztoo much gear
14:06.18Wobincause I mainspec as tank
14:06.24kapowazalmost all the DPS plate in Ulduar has hit rating :(
14:06.31Wobinso dps gear comes in second
14:06.33kadrahilyeah, tank is the only spec that i have trouble getting hit gear for
14:06.40kadrahili need abaddon, badly, but i haven't seen it drop yet
14:06.45kapowazStormedge
14:06.52kapowazthat's the answer
14:06.52kadrahilthat could work too...
14:06.57kapowaz96 HR
14:07.04kadrahilbut abaddon has armor pen for more threat too :P
14:07.05Wobinit's a nice near 3% hitrating
14:07.10kapowazonce I got that I was hitcapped for the first time as a tank
14:07.36kadrahilyeah i'm still at like 5%
14:07.40kadrahilheh
14:07.53kadrahilsec i need to find my armory, i logged out in tank gear
14:08.14Wobinhum
14:08.18kadrahilhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil
14:08.18steevkapowaz: no it doesn't - at least, not the tier gear
14:08.21WobinI -am- hitcapped as a tank... meleewise, anyway
14:08.37Wobinsteev: yeh, the other stuff
14:08.39steevkadrahil: bah! you and your awesome weapons :(
14:08.45kadrahilworldcarver is ok
14:09.03kadrahili would much prefer abaddon for the hit and getting expertise from other pieces just to hit the dodge cap
14:09.21steevinteresting tank spec
14:09.37kadrahilit's kind of a meat shield + avoidance spec
14:09.40kadrahilbut i do plenty of threat
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14:10.05kapowazsteev: what, about hit rating on plate?
14:10.13kapowazI dunno about any of the tier gear as I don't have any of it yet :|
14:10.17kapowazonly the non-set pieces
14:10.26kapowazbut pretty much all the non-tier gear has hit rating
14:10.26kadrahilsince i glyphed vamp blood, took 3/3 spell deflection, 3/3 wotn
14:10.31steevyeah, for a long time i was 400+ hit rating
14:10.38kapowazouch
14:10.48kadrahilthe only thing i'm not sure about, is the difference between glyphing dark death and death strike.
14:11.47kapowazfor blood DPS?
14:11.56Wobinyou'd have to figure on how often you DC compared to DS
14:11.58kadrahilblood tanking
14:12.01kadrahilsee mah armoreh
14:12.05kapowazoh tanking
14:12.25kadrahilWobin: yeah
14:12.44steevWobin: you should be ds'ing more than dc'ing
14:12.51Wobinimo anyway
14:12.56Wobinbut that's only from blood dps experience
14:13.01kapowazif the tanking rotation is anything like the DPS rotation, then you DS twice per full rotation
14:13.07steevi'm currently blood dps
14:13.12kapowazyou may DC as many as 4 or 5 per rotation
14:13.24kadrahiland i think that still works for DC procs as well
14:13.29WobinI throw in an unholy blight as well =)
14:13.31kapowazdepending on RP generation, and procs of Sudden Doom
14:13.32kadrahilso...
14:13.48Wobinactually... how are they changing UB in the patch?
14:13.55kapowazit's becoming a passive DoT
14:14.00kadrahilthey're making it a dot based on death coil damage
14:14.02kapowazattached to your Death Coils
14:14.13kapowazshould make unholy tanking a lot nicer
14:14.19kapowazfor single target anyway
14:14.19kadrahilmmhmm
14:14.24Wobina lot less to worry about
14:14.36kapowazis Unholy tank as mainspec
14:14.38steevbut back to same old same old
14:14.43Wobinis frost tanky
14:14.50steevis blood tank :(
14:14.50kapowazeveryone's a DK
14:14.53kapowazand so is their brother
14:15.02kapowazbut... who's the tank
14:15.07steevwell, actually
14:15.13Wobinno, what's the tank
14:15.13steevim blood tank on both my dk's
14:15.13kadrahili'm one of the first though!
14:15.16Wobinwho's on first
14:15.16kapowazhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekLO8BwxwE
14:15.31Wobin><
14:15.41Wobinterrible that I picked that up before the link
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14:16.05Wobinit's really a badly voice acted one
14:16.15kapowazaw I dunno, it's not bad
14:16.29kapowazanyway I'm off for a shower. ttfn ;)
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14:19.00Wobinthis is much better: http://twolumps.net/d/20090504.html
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14:29.05ThoraineHeya guys, I'm trying to edit an addon a friend sent me. it sends blocks into a specific channel to form words. My function has three "SendChatMessage" lines in it. the first and third line work but the second line "SendChatMessage("¦¦¯¦ ¦¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ¦¦¯¦ ¦¯¯¦¦",chan,nil,bla)" doesn't seem to work. could anyone help me with this?
14:29.21ThoraineOkay nvm seems like the blocks don't display correctly on mIRC lol
14:29.34Wobinpipes will cause issues
14:29.49Wobincause they're used in links so are interpreted differently
14:29.53ThoraineAre you replying to me Wobin?
14:29.59Wobinyes
14:30.08ThoraineOkay, Not sure what's a pipe
14:30.21ThoraineOkay..
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14:30.55Ackisa pipe is |
14:31.17ThoraineI see. it only appears that way in mirc it looks differently on notepad
14:31.25Thoraineand yeah I HAVE saved it as UTF-8
14:31.31Ackishttp://paste.wowace.com
14:31.33Ackisput it there
14:32.56Thorainehm, seems to appear fine there
14:32.56Thorainehttp://paste.wowace.com/izw3vqu2pxs67hof/
14:33.13Thorainethat line appears wacky in game
14:33.21Thorainelike missing spaces
14:33.45Ackisso when you type /say ░█▀█ ░█ █ ░█ █ ░█▀█ ░▀▀█░ it doesn't work right?
14:34.27Thoraineif i copy and paste directly the game "converts" it into what i just pasted earlier in my first sentence
14:35.15Ackisthe game == the chat window?
14:35.40Thorainechat box whre you type messages normally
14:35.57ThoraineI take back what I said
14:36.01ThoraineIt becomes "░█▀█ ░█ █ ░█ █ ░█▀█ ░▀▀█░"
14:36.03Thorainei mean
14:36.10Thoraineuhh
14:36.17Thoraineaccented "a"s
14:36.33Thoraineand the pound symbols with dashes
14:36.45Thorainealso comes out that exact way when i press enter
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14:37.14Ackisok so the chat window thing is converting it, what happens when you run the code from lua?
14:37.24Thoraineit displays teh blocks
14:37.33Thorainebut with a few spaces missing
14:38.24Ackisit looks like the game chat interface/addon you have is converting the input text into something else
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14:42.05mitch0haha: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/29/0833213
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15:57.33ckknighthey, anyone know what the @ Unix permission is? e.g. -rw-r--r--@
15:57.51profalbert644
15:57.52profalbert?
15:58.01profalbertoh @
15:58.38ckknighthttp://blog.anselmbradford.com/2008/12/24/what-is-the-significance-of-plus-and-at-in-mac-os-x-file-permission-tables/
15:58.47ckknightOS X thing, apparently
15:58.53kadrahilooh
15:59.11kadrahilyeah i looked at a unix page and it wasn't on there :|
15:59.34profalbertI don't have any @ ;)
15:59.34profalbert-rw-r--r-- 1 profalbert profalbert 1092 Jul 25 02:20 embeds.xml
16:00.39ckknightyou on Linux?
16:00.52profalbertyes
16:02.19winkillerholy shit
16:02.31Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.7.2 * 51bc04d /: [new tag] tag as v1.7.2-release
16:04.46nevcairielas you can read on that article, it just means that there are additional attributes set
16:05.01nevcairiellinux has those too, but i dunno if it displays the @
16:05.19profalbertlike acl?
16:05.40nevcairielacl has a +
16:05.51profalbertah k
16:06.23nevcairieldepends if the kernel as the additional attributes activated, though.
16:06.41kadrahildeactivates nevcairiel
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16:07.15nevcairielis that like sleeping?
16:07.19nevcairieli could really go for that now
16:07.21kadrahilsure.
16:07.36kadrahilme too, i only got about 5 hours last night
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16:44.19Repo59c4ee2: * Added Ace3 as an optional dependency so it won't error depending on load order
16:44.23Repo0370847: * I spell gud
16:44.40steevso what should people be using instead of eqcompare these days?
16:44.48SunTsusteev: tekkompare
16:44.54SunTsuOr shift ;)
16:45.07Torhal@describe splitter
16:45.08RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. GetDKP Clone
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16:45.12Torhal...
16:45.18Torhal<PROTECTED>
16:45.38nevcairielI wonder where it gets that explanation
16:45.43nevcairielits not in the page =P
16:45.58durcynit's automatically populated from toc from projects with repos, is it not?
16:46.07durcynif left blank
16:46.15TorhalIt isn't blank
16:46.22TorhalIt's "we need a special implementation for loot rools"
16:46.27Torhal<PROTECTED>
16:46.28durcynif left blank on creation, that is
16:46.31TorhalAh
16:46.51nevcairielYou cant leave it blank on creation
16:47.06nevcairielnot anymore =P
16:47.18Torhal15 Jul 2009
16:47.26ckknightnevcairiel: of course you can
16:47.44ckknightwell, summary ≠ description
16:47.50ckknightsummary you can specify manually
16:47.54nevcairielwho would ever approve a project with a blank description then? even if its experimental
16:47.56ckknightif you don't, it'll gleam it from the TOC
16:48.04ckknightlet's find out.
16:48.20ckknightTorhal.
16:48.23nevcairielhah
16:48.31TorhalExperimental is fair game I was told.
16:48.44TorhalIt has to be fleshed out to be really approved.
16:48.48nevcairielI would still expect them to outline wtf they want to do
16:49.01ckknightif they don't do anything with it, it'll just go away magically
16:49.11TorhalAye, so who cares?
16:49.15TorhalIt's Experimental :P
16:49.25durcynwhy even moderate experimental then
16:49.45TorhalWe don't want projects named YourMomEatsDogShit
16:49.55nevcairielwe don't?
16:49.58durcynwell, yeah, but you're allowed to say "hey this is a stupid idea"
16:49.59nevcairielmy bad
16:50.16durcynor "hey you've got the coding skills of a drunk hyena"
16:50.40durcynbasically what i'm saying is there's insufficient elitism in the process
16:50.42durcyn!
16:50.46nevcairielyou do realize that 90% of the addon coders would qualify for that
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16:50.57durcynoh, yeah, myself included
16:51.10nevcairielheh
16:51.32TorhalIt's experimental. When they request normal status, we can say things like "Even LordFarlander would laugh at you."
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17:47.17TorhalFoof
18:00.17Gnarfoz~seen fisker
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18:28.57robotuschlol
18:29.19robotuschmanaged to grab a titanium & rich saronite vein about 2 secs before one of the local underground bots turned up :<
18:29.47XtekI doubt they're bots.
18:30.22durcynsoutheast asians are cheaper than bots
18:30.37robotuschfair point
18:30.43XtekMost bots that can pull that kind of thing off cannot beat the new warden anymore.
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18:31.26Varvargrtopic pls
18:32.13ckknight?
18:33.30Fiskerslaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
18:33.49robotuschin any case, it was some twat with 17 different symbols in his name, so I doubt I got it right in mah ticket :/
18:34.41robotuschat least I have 40% of the saronite needed for a shot at an epic gem!
18:34.50ckknightFisker: a trout? you know my phobia.
18:35.22Xteklol I guess it's a good thing I kept all of my ore
18:35.27Xteki have something like 2100 saronite
18:35.44robotuscherh
18:35.45Groktari've just been doing naxx 10 and 25 every week
18:35.51robotuschtitanium, not saronite :<
18:35.57Xtekah
18:36.02Groktar~600 badges across two characters should do the trick
18:36.03robotuschjust me being the usual orcish confuddled
18:36.42robotuschI just can't wait until I have to resocket something like 4-5 sets of gear >_>
18:37.22nevcairieljust only re-socket new gear
18:38.17robotuschnot much new gear I can get
18:38.24robotuschat least until 3.2
18:38.45robotuschand I have no idea if our Ulduar semi-pug is gonna move on to the next raid instance
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18:49.04ckknightwhen's everyone's guess on the 3.2 patch hit?
18:49.27nicoli_snext week sometime maybe the week after
18:49.36nicoli_sthough chad seems to think it wont be till after blizzcon
18:49.39durcynckknight: 8/11
18:49.50Fiskerwhat nicoli_s said
18:49.54Fiskerbut he stole my estimate
18:49.54Fiskerso f
18:49.55Fiskerfu
18:49.59Fiskerkeddel
18:49.59Fiskermsn
18:51.36robotusch:O
18:51.53nicoli_si r teh estimate stealer!
18:51.55robotuschimma mining, so no
18:53.05Fiskerbtw ckknight
18:53.06Fiskermiss me?
18:53.10Fiskerand yes robotusch
18:53.11Fiskermsn moar
18:53.19ckknightevery moment without you is as an eternity, Fisker
18:54.02Fiskerindeed
18:54.15Torhal_ckknight: ...in heaven?
18:54.26ckknightlulz.
19:02.40Groktar~kill Fisker
19:02.41purlACTION shoots a excited neutrino gun at Fisker
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19:06.34Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
19:06.38Fisker~roulette
19:06.38purlACTION watches fisker pull the trigger:  BANG!
19:06.43Fiskerfuck you purl
19:09.16Groktarpours salt and gasoline on Fisker's corpse
19:09.19Groktarsets fire to it
19:09.35Fiskersurvives
19:10.17kadrahilrune strikes Fisker INTO OBLIVION
19:10.29Fiskersurvives
19:10.42kadrahilspell steals Fisker's survival
19:10.57Fiskercries
19:11.06kadrahilcomforts Fisker
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19:23.05Fiskerckknight
19:23.12ckknightFisker
19:23.12Fiskerdo you love to ride an elephant?
19:23.21ckknightnot had the experience.
19:23.25Fisker:(
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19:39.55XtekI like cookies.
19:40.54ckknightgrats.
19:44.29XtekThanks
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20:03.34HjalteI've got an idea for an addon: Something that lets me see the last couple of things someone said in all my channels, so I don't have to scroll up and look for it.
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20:09.11[SW]DodgeHey there, anyone knows if i somehow can let in bartender4 let a bar switch to another one if "activetalentgroup = 1 and (form == cat or form == bear)"? :) the tooltip of the inputbox for custom  condition tells me that it wants macro conditionals
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20:10.56Fiskerbutts Hjalte
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20:13.21ckknightI think sites that slugify xml entities is kinda bullshit
20:13.27ckknightyou shouldn't end up with quot or amp in your urls
20:13.31ckknightshakes fist
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20:13.39ckknighte.g. http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/07/29/funny-pictures-for-goodness-amp-cuteness/
20:14.11Fiskerckknight
20:14.14robotuschFunkeh`
20:14.15robotuscherh
20:14.17robotuschFisker
20:14.18ckknightyes, Fisker
20:14.20Fiskercan we rename Curse Client to Xurse Client?
20:14.23robotuschAlterac Blitz xD
20:14.25ckknightwe may not.
20:14.30Fisker:(
20:14.36Fiskeri keep hitting X instead of C
20:14.39Fiskerrobotusch msn
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20:15.19robotuschNo
20:15.22robotuschI'm hiding :3
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20:20.42Fiskeri hate you robotusch
20:20.55robotuschJeg elsker dig :3
20:21.01Fiskerså kom på msn
20:21.09robotuschHar jo sagt jeg gemmer mig :D
20:21.29FiskerDU HAR JO SAGT DU ELSKER MIG
20:21.37robotuschNo I didn't
20:21.47Fiskeroh yes you did
20:22.19Groktartramp stamp Fisker
20:26.37PrimerPenance: Cooldown increased to 12 seconds, up from 10 seconds.
20:26.39Primerthat's fucked up
20:26.48PrimerI wonder how that affects the glyph
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21:00.10Repo10mountiful: 03daxdax * r61 / (3 files in 1 directory): Mountiful:
21:00.13Repo- full rewrite to make code cleaner, simpler, to eliminate bugs that keep popping up
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21:07.30[SW]Dodgeis it somehow possible to let a "Group" (->Party) in Pitbull4 grow from center to left & right? :)
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21:24.14ckknight[SW]Dodge: nope.
21:24.36Groktarnibbles ckknight
21:25.36[SW]Dodgeto bad :( ^^
21:28.17ckknight[SW]Dodge: Blizzard issue, really
21:29.03Fiskerslaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
21:29.05[SW]Dodgemhm, the secured frame thing?
21:29.12ckknightsecured headers, specifically
21:29.14ckknightthey handle the layout
21:29.18[SW]Dodgeah k :(
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21:33.34Camcickknight website is fucked !!!!!
21:33.42ckknightuh oh
21:33.43ckknighthow so?
21:33.56ckknightgotta be more clear
21:33.57Camcisec giving s
21:33.57Camcis
21:35.46Camcihttp://i31.tinypic.com/35ldocl.jpg
21:35.51Camcickknight ^
21:35.58ckknightthe background's not loading
21:36.00ckknightrefresh?
21:36.08ckknightactually, I know the issue
21:36.09ckknightdurr
21:36.10ckknightmy bad.
21:36.11Camcidid, deleted cache, and everything
21:36.20ckknighthang no
21:36.21ckknighton*
21:36.25Camciokey
21:37.14ckknightrefresh
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21:38.03Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r208 / (2 files in 1 directory): Few changes
21:39.25Camciaweosme
21:39.27Camcicheers
21:39.52ckknightk, thanks for pointing it out
21:41.52Fiskeri love you ckknight
21:41.57ckknightyou know it.
21:42.02NeoTronI know you don't "support" firefox 2 but you'd think it would be possible to make the site not be simply a black page
21:44.46Camciwhy the hell use ff2 to start with? :P
21:44.54FiskerFinal Fantasy 2?
21:45.01CamciFireFox
21:45.18FiskerOh Fx2?
21:45.26Camciyea Ff2
21:45.30FiskerOh Fx2?
21:45.34Camciyea Ff2
21:45.37FiskerOh Fx2?
21:45.38Camciyea Ff2
21:45.40NeoTronCamci: because it's a fucking pain in the ass to compile even firefox 2 on this computer
21:45.42FiskerOh Fx2?
21:45.45Camciyea Ff2
21:45.48FiskerOh Fx2?
21:45.51Camciyea Ff2
21:45.55FiskerOh Fx2?
21:46.03Fiskeryay
21:46.06Camcistabs Fisker in the eye
21:46.18Fiskerthat's what you get for using the wrong acronym
21:46.41NeoTronCamci: there are a lot of dependencies and compiling them all on RHEL3 is not a little time consuming
21:46.49FiskerInstall Windows NeoRevan
21:46.51FiskerNeoTron
21:47.13Fiskergood job Belazor
21:47.15BelazorXD
21:47.48CamciNeoTron you just made no sense to me sorry :P
21:48.29ckknightNeoTron: Firefox 2 usage is too low to warrant me bothering to get it working with the site.
21:50.57nicoli_sbut ckknight, hundreds of thousands of theoretical people use ff2
21:52.00Camcidont like the background on home page :(
21:52.05Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2261 ARLDatamine.lua: Fixed the check for the pvp missing/extra flag.
21:52.58Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r271 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
21:53.01Repo- Fixed translation strings for Scrolls and Blessings assignments.
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22:14.21NeoTronckknight: which is the mentality that made so many websites unusable on Firefox back in the day
22:14.43ckknightwe support modern browsers
22:14.49ckknightand IE8
22:15.00Vonhintenlol
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22:16.23FiskerWhat other futuristic browsers do you support other than IE8 ckknight ?
22:16.27ckknightI don't think expecting outdated browsers to work is all that valid
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22:17.32NeoTronI'd accept not working perfectly but how hard can it possibly be to make it not just have a pitch black page?
22:17.32ckknightFisker: http://kb.wowace.com/recommended-browsers/
22:17.44NeoTronit did work when you first re-did it for the most part
22:17.45ckknightNeoTron: I don't plan on installing Firefox 2 in order to fix it
22:17.49taledenwhen was ff3 released?
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22:18.26ckknighttaleden: June 17 of last year
22:18.45Fiskeryou got that wrong ckknight
22:19.07Fiskerit was in 1990
22:19.08Fiskerfor the famicom
22:19.49FiskerBesides not Microsoft's fault that you can't follow specs ckknight
22:19.50Fisker>:3
22:20.09taledenfisker: wrong!  1995 by capcom for the SNES
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22:20.37Gagorian2006 for nintendo DS!
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22:20.42ckknightFisker: how am I blaming Microsoft?
22:21.05Fiskerit was 1994 taleden
22:21.12Fiskerby Square Enix
22:21.13Fiskerso fuck you
22:21.17taledenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fight_3
22:21.26ckknight...
22:21.26Fiskerwell played
22:21.27Fiskerfuck me
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22:21.52taleden:)
22:22.58Groktarcomplies with Fisker's command
22:23.57GagorianGroktar by doing so you got infected with Fiskeritis
22:24.02GagorianTurns your brain into muh
22:24.05Gagorian*mush
22:24.11Groktaris immune because of his goa'uld
22:25.06GagorianFisker replaced it with a jelly dildo when you were sleeping
22:25.10GagorianToo bad
22:25.51FiskerGOULD
22:26.27Groktarsets fire to Fisker's eyebrows
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22:26.58FiskerGOULDs Groktar
22:29.38Fiskerhttp://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/07/28/us/AP-US-Pregnant-Woman-Killed.html?_r=1 <-holy shit that's just gross Groktar
22:29.43Fiskerstop being such a murderer
22:31.00Megalonwtf
22:32.30ckknight...clearly suicide
22:32.39ckknightalternatively, the baby didn't like the mother and wanted out
22:32.45ckknightalso, the baby was an alien.
22:33.42Megalontragical suicide?
22:33.48Megalonstabbed himself 20 times in the back with a knife
22:33.49Megalon:(
22:34.38Fiskeri think i might sleep ckknight
22:34.40Fiskerwhat about you?
22:34.49ckknightno fisker, you mustn't!
22:34.53ckknightsleep is for the weak!
22:35.10Fiskeroh
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22:39.21Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2262 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:39.24RepoIt would probably be a good idea to have is_vendor set to true instead of false in the ScanVendor() function.
22:39.27RepoAdded the pvp flag to the jc designs acquired from the Wintergrasp quartermaster.
22:43.26ckknightNeoTron: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox#Release_history , everything below 3.0 isn't supported anyway
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22:48.28NeoTronit's still a larger percentage of the browser market than Opera
22:48.34NeoTronand just slightly below Safari
22:49.38ckknightnot on our site.
22:50.00nicoli_ssomebody got told
22:50.20ckknightlemme get some numbers
22:50.25Fiskerslaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout
22:50.43FiskerFirefox 2.x is the cancer killing the internet NeoTron
22:50.47FiskerL2A
22:50.52ckknightwhat's A?
22:50.59FiskerAdapt
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22:51.34Fiskerbtw
22:51.55FiskerApple don't want us to jailbreak iphones because terorrist cells could use it to disrupt telecommunications
22:52.09FiskerAnd here i was thinking that it was all telecom politics
22:52.17Fiskerbut no Apple really cares about national security
22:52.47FiskerMy old account was bannned about 5 months ago, for something really stupid... i don't want to say what i did though because its kinda embarassin >.<
22:52.50Fisker2 days later:
22:52.58FiskerI'm confused :S. Does that mean my account got banned or not?
22:53.05FiskerMe: Can you login?
22:53.09Fiskeryeh i can log in, but before it said i was banned. however that may have been the fake link i clicked, which took me to a log in page identical to blizz's
22:53.35ckknightNeoTron: 1.6% are Firefox 2.0 users
22:53.38Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjLgekyOZA0#t=0m56s
22:53.53ckknightNeoTron: only of firefox users
22:55.37NeoTronI'd argue that a site being unsable by firefox 2 might have a lower percentage of users using said browser
22:56.48Arrowmasterdoes curse.com work with firefox 2.0?
22:57.40NeoTronyes, it works just fine
22:59.08ckknightNeoTron: why are you still using Firefox 2.0?
22:59.38Fiskerhe's a jerk :(
22:59.46Fiskeralso he said something about compiles
22:59.51Kaeltencompiles?
22:59.51Fiskerto which i replied Windows + IE8
23:00.33Fiskerlike something with linux i guess
23:00.54ckknightChromium, amirite?
23:00.55ckknight;-)
23:01.20Funkeh`yeah right
23:01.31Fiskernaw ckknight
23:01.36FiskerWindows + IE8 is better
23:01.44ckknightbut windows is icky
23:01.56Fiskernaw
23:04.18NeoTronckknight: because it's not trivial to compile a newer firefox on RHEL3 (it was in fact rather challenging to get Firefox 2 running)
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23:13.10ckknightNeoTron: well, I see the issue
23:13.17ckknightNeoTron: and it's not easy to fix
23:13.34ckknightalso, I can scroll down and see the content
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23:15.22ckknightas shitty a situation it is, sorry, but we don't support Firefox 2
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23:23.13NeoTronappreciate you taking a look. and to be clear, I'm not using this ancient os and browser for fun :P
23:23.24NeoTronand hope to upgrade to RHEL5 sometime later this year
23:24.13Arrowmasteris there a reason you cant compile a newer browser from source? like firefox 3.0?
23:24.23ShefkiNeoTron: Ot's very easy to install FF3 from binaries on Linux.
23:24.32Shefkis/Ot's/It's/
23:25.14ShefkiEven then it's relatively simple to compile from source even.
23:25.22NeoTronShefki: right. if you run a linux distro from this century
23:25.32NeoTronI need to compile every dependency from scratch
23:25.40NeoTronand  I did this once for firefox 2
23:25.42ShefkiNeoTron: The binaries are statically linked.
23:25.51NeoTronno they aren't
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23:30.22ckknightNeoTron: shitty situation.
23:30.44Fiskerinstalls windows on NeoTron's computer
23:30.52Fiskerfixed forever
23:30.56Megaloncopies Fisker to its harddrive
23:31.10Fiskermeh
23:31.13Fiskergonna go bang your mom
23:31.14Fiskerlater
23:31.22ckknighthave fun, big guy
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23:45.56steev_osxNeoTron: holy crap man, you can't upgrade from el3?
23:46.10steev_osxto something from the modern era
23:46.52NeoTronmigration is slow sometimes when working in a publicly traded behemoth
23:47.01NeoTrononce the service I write migrates, so can I
23:49.51steev_osx2 words for ya - virtual machine ;)
23:52.31ckknightvirtual machines are fun
23:52.47ckknightwhen we do the next upgrade to the curseforge servers, we'll be virtualizing it
23:53.31ckknightthe web server minimally, but probably the repos server as well
23:53.37steev_osxnice
23:53.45steev_osxwe've virtualized a bit at work too
23:53.50steev_osxbut our database servers... no
23:54.02ckknightyea, we're keeping our DB just non-virtualized
23:54.03NeoTronsteev_osx: OS and/or kernel is pretty mcuh too old for that ;-)
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23:54.29NeoTronrather it wouldn't be trivial to do that either. RHEL3 is amazingly old and crufty
23:54.32steev_osxNeoTron: eh? you use a modern distro and virtualize your current installation :)
23:54.44NeoTronI can't
23:55.00NeoTronwhat I run on my desktop is not my choice to make. do you think I'd run rhel3 if it was?
23:55.19steev_osxdunno... some people play wow without addons... :-P
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23:56.13ckknightwhat I run on my desktop is my choice :)
23:56.17ckknightwhich is nice
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23:58.39steev_osxsame, although i do have one of pretty much everything :/
23:59.03steev_osxwish they'd just buy me a mac and i could do bootcamp or parallels or whatever its called

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