| 00:01.28 | Antiarc | You've obviously never been on quakenet |
| 00:01.45 | Ackis | spams Arrowmaster |
| 00:01.54 | KriLL3 | qnet is tame compared |
| 00:02.09 | KriLL3 | efnet is the level above freenode though |
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| 00:08.04 | dodga | Ah, EFnet.. fun times about ten years ago :D |
| 00:08.10 | dodga | Though, IRCnet was fun, too |
| 00:08.32 | dodga | Not so fun when to many kids found out what DDoS is and how to use it :D |
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| 00:30.30 | orionshock | anyone got a good dot timmer for beta |
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| 00:48.32 | Pkekyo| | UPS parcel tracking is the work of the devil |
| 00:48.42 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 00:49.17 | Pkekyo| | ya'rly |
| 00:49.18 | Pkekyo| | I |
| 00:49.27 | Pkekyo| | I'm stuck to the monitor, refreshing every other second |
| 00:49.33 | nocts | Same... |
| 00:49.47 | Pkekyo| | I can't bloody wait to get my hands on the package |
| 00:49.48 | Ellipsis | you two need to get lives :P |
| 00:49.52 | nocts | We're expecting our ram, and yesterday trying to track new monitors was a fucking exausting feat. |
| 00:50.05 | nocts | Delayed scans, etc. |
| 00:50.27 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: eh? |
| 00:51.52 | Ellipsis | just what I said |
| 00:52.16 | Ellipsis | just because you have something on the way doesn't mean you need to watch the status page constantly, you're not getting it here any faster :P |
| 00:52.25 | Wobin | pft |
| 00:52.34 | Wobin | next thing you'll tell me is that a watched pot never boils |
| 00:52.37 | nocts | ^ this |
| 00:52.41 | nocts | Or that a sleeping cat never wakes |
| 00:54.19 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: but...what if it did get here faster :p |
| 00:57.02 | Pkekyo| | now how could I pass up the chance of that |
| 00:57.13 | Pkekyo| | especially since I need it in ten days |
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| 01:01.09 | Ellipsis | swats Pkekyo| with a mousepad |
| 01:02.46 | VonhintenHOME` | mousepad!? |
| 01:02.54 | Ellipsis | mousepad. |
| 01:02.57 | Wobin | who uses those? |
| 01:03.02 | Ellipsis | I use one |
| 01:03.05 | VonhintenHOME` | People still use mice that aren't thumb rollers? |
| 01:03.19 | VonhintenHOME` | omg, l2evolve |
| 01:03.23 | Ellipsis | my desk isn't good for tracking and my mouse has old/worn-down feet |
| 01:03.37 | Ellipsis | so I have a func surface1030 |
| 01:05.56 | Primer | Ellipsis: remember that crazy mount macro I had pasted? Turns out I actually had my old macro in place :) |
| 01:06.13 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:06.17 | Ellipsis | silly Primer :P |
| 01:06.48 | Primer | Can a castsequence macro proceed onto the next part, even if a previous part fails? Like, it's on CD |
| 01:06.57 | vithos | no |
| 01:07.51 | Primer | I was hoping to create a "panic button" macro, but I guess that's out |
| 01:08.12 | Primer | medallion, elune's grace, PW:S, PoM, renew |
| 01:08.39 | Primer | for those damn double rogue teams |
| 01:08.58 | Primer | medallion, PS, elune's grace, PW:S, PoM, renew <-- more like it |
| 01:09.19 | fewyn | there |
| 01:09.25 | fewyn | i now have a cleaned out bank on beta |
| 01:09.37 | fewyn | totally worth the last half hour |
| 01:10.01 | Primer | you vendor everything? |
| 01:10.09 | winkiller | holy shit, I managed to do that Anetheron kill with only losing SnD once |
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| 01:10.31 | CIA-47 | 03zhinjio * r81024 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua img/fly_1col.blp img/fly_2col.blp): |
| 01:10.31 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:10.32 | CIA-47 | - switched flyaway to two textures (1col and 2col) |
| 01:10.42 | fewyn | nice winkiller |
| 01:10.46 | fewyn | not everything Primer |
| 01:10.49 | winkiller | 5:07 |
| 01:11.05 | Ellipsis | Primer: you can't do that with castsequence, but you could do it with multiple cast lines |
| 01:11.06 | fewyn | but a lot of my gear that's like "i might use this" from raiding |
| 01:11.09 | winkiller | is puzzled |
| 01:11.13 | fewyn | that i picked up |
| 01:11.38 | Ellipsis | assuming they all invoke GCD and all have cooldowns, it'll be equally spammable and basically act like the castsequence |
| 01:11.38 | winkiller | oh, nvm. I wasn'ts leeped :P |
| 01:12.22 | fewyn | Quest accepted: Where in the World is Hemet Nesingwary? |
| 01:12.23 | fewyn | lulz |
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| 01:15.02 | fewyn | are there any fps in sholazar? |
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| 01:19.22 | fewyn | awesome, flight paths in sholazar use roflecopters! |
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| 01:27.44 | Ellipsis | I wanna ride the roflcopter! |
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| 01:42.58 | Groktar | woot, they finally let me seed sunwell and we got the gloves of the immortal dusk pattern off the fourth pull |
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| 01:46.53 | fewyn | :D |
| 01:47.01 | fewyn | lucky you are |
| 01:47.09 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you can ride my roflcopter. |
| 01:47.47 | Wobin | Don't do it, Ellipsis |
| 01:47.53 | Wobin | you don't know where he's put that |
| 01:48.06 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: that's classified information :p |
| 01:48.21 | Pkekyo| | where the hell is SYLMAR CA? |
| 01:48.24 | Wobin | that's what -she- said! |
| 01:50.14 | Pkekyo| | no, that's what I said... |
| 01:54.43 | Zyndrome | christ... |
| 01:54.52 | Pkekyo| | yes, what do you want? |
| 01:55.01 | Zyndrome | a kebab pizza |
| 01:55.04 | Zyndrome | and some coke |
| 01:55.17 | Pkekyo| | you'll have to talk to muhammad or allah for that... |
| 01:56.08 | Zyndrome | "You created it, or participated closely in its creation. No TV shows, footage you found on the web, You created it, or participated closely in its creation. No TV shows, footage you found on the web, or gaming videos. "I have permission" does not mean you created it. "I have permission" does not mean you created it." |
| 01:56.23 | Zyndrome | eh |
| 01:56.38 | Zyndrome | anyway... screw vimeo.com |
| 01:57.16 | Pkekyo| | eh? |
| 01:57.25 | Ellipsis | creates Zyndrome's pizza |
| 01:57.53 | Zyndrome | looked at uploading some video and Vimeo doesn't allow game-videos :/ |
| 01:58.06 | Zyndrome | and noobflicks... yeah 30kb/s upload |
| 01:58.20 | ulic | Pkekyo|: sylmar is near magic mountain in So. Calif. iirc. |
| 02:03.14 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you're allah? :O |
| 02:03.41 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|, nocts: http://xkcd.com/281/ |
| 02:05.13 | Pkekyo| | Wraithan: well, it's in Sylmar, but yeah, that's the general idea :p |
| 02:05.40 | Wraithan | as XKCD goes on more and more things in life make me want to link people to it |
| 02:06.32 | nocts | Wraithan: lol |
| 02:07.05 | Wraithan | Like when I go to explain my girlfriend situation to friends, we are not quite dating but more than just friends with benefits, so when I say "It's complicated" I think of http://xkcd.com/355/ |
| 02:07.10 | Pkekyo| | http://xkcd.com/375/ WIN |
| 02:07.23 | Wraithan | it is really wrong how many times a day XKCD pops into my head |
| 02:08.39 | Pkekyo| | still in Sylmar :'( |
| 02:08.50 | Wraithan | The one I see refernced in all the linux channels all the time... http://xkcd.com/378/ |
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| 02:10.18 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: will you be my "it's complicated"? |
| 02:11.00 | Pkekyo| | I'm a rather simple being...is it even possible then? :p |
| 02:11.26 | Pkekyo| | I'm too simple tbh...I don't even know C :< |
| 02:12.27 | Pkekyo| | http://xkcd.com/293/ |
| 02:12.36 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 02:13.58 | Pkekyo| | http://xkcd.com/2/ eh...anyone get this? |
| 02:14.35 | Ellipsis | his early ones often weren't comics, just sketches |
| 02:14.44 | Pkekyo| | oh |
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| 02:14.53 | Ellipsis | since it started with him uploading scans of his sketchbook and then evolved into a webcomic |
| 02:15.05 | Ellipsis | well, s/sketchbook/graph paper/ |
| 02:15.08 | Pkekyo| | I feel nerdy...I started smiling when I found episode # 416 |
| 02:16.24 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 02:17.57 | Pkekyo| | http://xkcd.com/215/ |
| 02:18.00 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 02:18.24 | Pkekyo| | brb, creating new user account :p |
| 02:21.18 | CIA-47 | 03zhinjio * r81025 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 02:21.18 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:21.18 | CIA-47 | - progress on rep panel. logo buttons look awesome |
| 02:21.18 | CIA-47 | - not dry-coded |
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| 02:23.41 | Pkekyo| | sod this, I'm laughing at damn near everything - I'm off to bead |
| 02:23.43 | Pkekyo| | g'nite ladies |
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| 02:41.47 | orionshock | what lvl is dragon blight? |
| 02:42.37 | KriLL3 | 71-73 or something like that |
| 02:42.42 | Ellipsis | 71-73 |
| 02:42.54 | Groktar | i got a quest to go there at 70 |
| 02:43.36 | Ellipsis | you can do some things at 70, but you'll run out of quests if you aren't at least really close to dinging 71 |
| 02:43.38 | KriLL3 | "71-74" damn I was off by 1 |
| 02:43.54 | KriLL3 | you get 71 in BT alone though |
| 02:44.05 | Groktar | not if you go there at 68 |
| 02:44.10 | KriLL3 | true |
| 02:44.19 | Ellipsis | if you do every quest there you should be pretty close though |
| 02:44.24 | Groktar | i did all of howling fjord and most of bt |
| 02:44.32 | KriLL3 | do all of bt then :> |
| 02:44.32 | Groktar | and i'm about 80% to 72 |
| 02:48.39 | fewyn | :( |
| 02:48.45 | fewyn | server crashes while trying to solo an elite |
| 02:48.46 | fewyn | not fun |
| 02:49.10 | Groktar | i'd be happier if it would actually crash |
| 02:49.15 | Groktar | instead of just lagging for 15 minutes |
| 02:49.20 | Ellipsis | pets her shiny new RAM and stares at the "Retrieving character list" window |
| 02:49.26 | fewyn | new ram? |
| 02:49.31 | fewyn | how much ya got now Ellipsis? |
| 02:49.44 | Ellipsis | oh it's for the computer I haven't built yet :P |
| 02:50.00 | fewyn | xD |
| 02:50.12 | Ellipsis | but it will be a glorious 4gb |
| 02:51.21 | fewyn | i only have 3gb :( |
| 02:53.35 | Groktar | whatever hotfix they put in with that rolling restart today |
| 02:53.40 | Groktar | did not help matters at all |
| 02:53.43 | fewyn | nope |
| 02:53.49 | fewyn | that hotfix was reopening storm peaks |
| 02:53.52 | Groktar | o |
| 02:53.57 | fewyn | which is still broken |
| 02:54.01 | Groktar | that certainly explains the server dying again |
| 02:54.02 | Groktar | ya |
| 02:54.06 | fewyn | gah |
| 02:54.07 | fewyn | a rollback |
| 02:54.18 | fewyn | probably too many people on trying to do the same exact quests |
| 02:54.42 | Groktar | "In the meantime, the more you play, the more it will help us narrow down what the problem is. =) " |
| 02:55.27 | fewyn | xD |
| 02:55.29 | fewyn | yea |
| 02:55.46 | Groktar | not sure what they expect to do |
| 02:55.46 | fewyn | i'm in zul'drak atm |
| 02:55.51 | Groktar | when nothing happens for 10 minutes |
| 02:59.36 | fewyn | i usually start up a converstation in general |
| 03:00.17 | Ellipsis | trolling works spectacularly well when there are many other bored and frustrated players in general |
| 03:01.02 | fewyn | i do that sometimes too |
| 03:02.18 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * re909077 10/ (Cork.lua templates/RaidBuffer.lua): Prefer buffing the player first - http://is.gd/1X0b |
| 03:03.41 | fewyn | and server go boom |
| 03:04.01 | Groktar | lich king hasn't gone boom yet |
| 03:04.06 | Groktar | still sitting there doing nothing |
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| 03:04.16 | fewyn | northrend goes boom |
| 03:04.32 | fewyn | lich king goes bo................o...................................................................................................m? |
| 03:05.51 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.52 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.14 | fewyn | yep |
| 03:06.56 | orionshock | what about the beta realms? they functional or borked atm...? |
| 03:07.13 | fewyn | a bit of both |
| 03:11.06 | fewyn | alright i'm done for the night once i can login and hearth again |
| 03:13.09 | Groktar | i suspect that they won't get around to messing with the beta servers now that they've got some "urgent maintenance" on live realms |
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| 03:19.07 | KriLL3 | urgent maintenance? |
| 03:19.08 | Gary135791 | It's the entire Seattle datacenter, btw ;) |
| 03:19.22 | Gary135791 | KriLL3: They went down, I highly doubt it's maintenance. |
| 03:19.24 | Gary135791 | Very highly. |
| 03:19.44 | KriLL3 | errm it's the weekly downtime atm, they're supposed to be down |
| 03:19.55 | Gary135791 | Not for US, that was 12+ hours ago |
| 03:21.17 | KriLL3 | the guys that make content for wow doesn't service the servers |
| 03:22.08 | Groktar | i wouldn't be surprised if the guy that pushes the content is the same guy that services the servers |
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| 03:25.27 | chiper | hey guys, do you remember when paid char transfers started? wasnt it post-BC? |
| 03:26.42 | KriLL3 | "In mid 2006, Blizzard Entertainment began the Paid Character Transfer Service" |
| 03:26.54 | Groktar | def pre-bc |
| 03:27.02 | Ellipsis | it was pre-bc |
| 03:27.03 | KriLL3 | NA/EU - 16 January 2007 |
| 03:27.07 | KriLL3 | TBC date |
| 03:27.17 | chiper | hrm, could have sworn it was after I was already 60 |
| 03:27.33 | KriLL3 | you turned 60 just before TBC? |
| 03:28.09 | chiper | a few months before, yeah |
| 03:28.44 | chiper | had about four months of MC raiding before it vanished |
| 03:28.58 | KriLL3 | you were late to the game |
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| 03:29.53 | chiper | not really. I had a bunch of 30ish characters and a 45 before I commited to my mage |
| 03:30.15 | chiper | been playing since august 2005 |
| 03:31.26 | KriLL3 | I started playing in the closed beta |
| 03:31.46 | KriLL3 | the US one =P |
| 03:34.15 | Ellipsis | why does my combat log refuse to stay detached? >_> |
| 03:34.26 | Groktar | hehe |
| 03:34.33 | Groktar | lich king is still locked up |
| 03:34.41 | Groktar | haven't gotten dc'd tho |
| 03:34.46 | Ellipsis | northrend just went down again :P |
| 03:34.57 | Groktar | can you at least play in between? |
| 03:35.08 | Ellipsis | yeah, for a minute or two |
| 03:36.00 | Groktar | is there a script command to get your current xp? |
| 03:36.06 | Groktar | looks it up |
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| 04:06.10 | orionshock | grrr |
| 04:06.13 | orionshock | WSD :(( |
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| 04:08.08 | KriLL3 | WAI |
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| 04:11.21 | Zyndrome | U |
| 04:17.26 | orionshock | lol |
| 04:17.32 | orionshock | <3 who ever did this quest text |
| 04:17.58 | orionshock | "Strewn across this beach, amidst the flotsam and jetsam,..." |
| 04:18.24 | KriLL3 | ?... |
| 04:18.31 | Ellipsis | how can you appreciate good writing when you barely speak english? |
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| 04:18.49 | Zyndrome | http://www.noobflicks.com/watch/2526/wotlk__azjol-nerub , pew pew i r durk nite |
| 04:19.19 | Zyndrome | and leveling weaponskills from 1 sucks |
| 04:19.29 | Killmore | this instance is too short :( |
| 04:19.35 | Killmore | you can finish it in like 10min |
| 04:19.40 | Zyndrome | Azjol is piss short |
| 04:22.55 | CIA-47 | 03digmouse * r81026 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.toc Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 04:22.55 | CIA-47 | ClassLoot: |
| 04:22.55 | CIA-47 | - add zhTW |
| 04:22.55 | CIA-47 | - zhCN revamp |
| 04:22.55 | CIA-47 | - get rid of the wowui.cn link ad in toc, nobody wants to know you. |
| 04:23.12 | Ellipsis | nobody wants to know me :< |
| 04:23.14 | digmouse | Ellipsis: I use reading to keep that way |
| 04:23.26 | digmouse | Ellipsis <3 |
| 04:23.34 | digmouse | ~comfort Ellipsis |
| 04:23.35 | purl | There, there, Ellipsis. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:23.41 | Ellipsis | licks digmouse |
| 04:23.50 | Ellipsis | see the thing is, orionshock speaks english as his native language |
| 04:23.59 | digmouse | I dont |
| 04:24.03 | Ellipsis | he CHOOSES not to care about the language's rules and structure |
| 04:24.09 | Ellipsis | which is why he's so bad at speaking it |
| 04:24.26 | WobWork | shameful |
| 04:24.43 | digmouse | but generally people dont care much about rules |
| 04:25.16 | digmouse | I would hesitate on some word and structrues when really speaking |
| 04:25.24 | Ellipsis | people who don't care about the language's rules and limitations can't appreciate when it is used correctly and well |
| 04:26.51 | Corgan | I want to run wotlk instances :< |
| 04:26.59 | Corgan | 78 warrior lfg ;D |
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| 04:27.05 | orionshock | Ellipsis: as a job i speak all day long, 7hrs of it on the phone to people that have no talent or skill in the language.. i guess it rubs off. |
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| 04:27.38 | Elgren | Voila! |
| 04:27.56 | Ellipsis | orionshock: if that were true I wouldn't be able to speak at all |
| 04:28.00 | Ellipsis | I do handle jira tickets, remember :) |
| 04:28.14 | orionshock | over the net and on the phone are very very different |
| 04:28.21 | Ellipsis | not really |
| 04:28.26 | orionshock | try it |
| 04:28.31 | Ellipsis | I'd rather not |
| 04:28.36 | CIA-47 | 03digmouse * r81027 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.toc: |
| 04:28.36 | CIA-47 | ClassLoot: |
| 04:28.36 | CIA-47 | - Oh I forgot something |
| 04:29.11 | digmouse | And I think my writing and speaking skills increased fast talking to u guys |
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| 04:30.19 | orionshock | what's the phrase? walk a mile in their shoes before criticizing them? |
| 04:30.26 | JoBbZ | any plans to update the version of omen on wowui and wowinterface? |
| 04:30.51 | digmouse | JoBbz: use wau and you'll get always the latest |
| 04:31.27 | JoBbZ | eh, I don't like auto updaters :P |
| 04:31.53 | KriLL3 | I do, less hassle |
| 04:32.03 | Ellipsis | orionshock: I have small feet, I don't think they'd fit |
| 04:32.14 | WobWork | what size shoes do you wear, orion? |
| 04:32.22 | orionshock | 13mens :P |
| 04:32.34 | WobWork | send a pair over, and I'll do it =) |
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| 04:33.19 | digmouse | Jobbz: then go to files.wowace.com |
| 04:33.44 | JoBbZ | I already downloaded it from curse, but it also exists on wowui and wowinterface, but they are an older release. Hence my question. |
| 04:33.57 | JoBbZ | I wasn't asking where I can get a newer release |
| 04:33.58 | digmouse | see the revision |
| 04:33.58 | JoBbZ | ;) |
| 04:34.06 | digmouse | later is the later |
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| 04:35.50 | orionshock | ok.. so is there a good way to write an IRC bot for wow that would hand out quest information in general chat? |
| 04:36.22 | WobWork | well, it'd be you |
| 04:36.24 | WobWork | not a bot |
| 04:36.37 | WobWork | as we don't have direct access to the chat server |
| 04:36.41 | WobWork | like in AoC |
| 04:36.52 | WobWork | or funcom games in genera |
| 04:38.36 | Antiarc | It's possible, but it would be very tedious and difficult to execute |
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| 04:45.44 | orionshock | naa, scrap the LH DB for the first comment and link the cords :D |
| 04:45.50 | orionshock | or just the first comment |
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| 05:03.07 | Ackis | Ravenholdt (1740/12000) |
| 05:03.42 | Ackis | 10260 kills left |
| 05:04.10 | WobWork | gogo Ackis, you killing machine, you |
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| 05:05.41 | Ackis | I've killed about 5k of them in the past week :P that's a LOT of kills |
| 05:06.47 | orionshock | Ackis: why? |
| 05:07.02 | Ackis | get exalted ravenholdt? |
| 05:07.13 | Ackis | it's one of the few that I'm not exalted with so why not? |
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| 05:18.11 | CIA-47 | 03cwdg * r81028 10Fortress/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:18.11 | CIA-47 | Fortress: |
| 05:18.11 | CIA-47 | - Add zhCN |
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| 05:34.13 | Elgren | Anyone know if I can change any other actionbar then actionbar 1 with the "changeactionbar" tag with a macro? |
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| 05:55.18 | Antiarc | Whaaaat the hell |
| 05:55.20 | Antiarc | I died in Storm Peaks |
| 05:55.28 | Antiarc | I arrived at a graveyard in Icecrown |
| 05:55.32 | Antiarc | I got No Man's Land |
| 05:55.36 | Antiarc | And ported to Borean Tundra |
| 05:55.37 | Antiarc | As a ghost |
| 05:55.40 | Antiarc | 4 zones from my corpse. |
| 05:55.52 | kadrahil | lol |
| 05:56.05 | kadrahil | i heard the music in storm peaks is pretty hot |
| 05:56.09 | jaxdahl | ouch |
| 05:56.11 | Antiarc | I have it off |
| 05:56.13 | Antiarc | I'll check it out |
| 05:56.18 | kadrahil | ah |
| 05:56.21 | jaxdahl | anyone seen any mining nodes in storm peaks? |
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| 06:05.32 | Zyndrome | suddenly |
| 06:05.46 | Corgan | did they open up storm peaks again? |
| 06:11.36 | Antiarc | yes |
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| 06:13.08 | Antiarc | KICKASS |
| 06:13.12 | Antiarc | SWIFT SPECTRAL GRIFFIN |
| 06:13.40 | Corgan | Antiarc, EU? :< |
| 06:13.43 | Antiarc | US |
| 06:13.47 | Antiarc | Sec, screenshotting |
| 06:13.47 | Corgan | pve? |
| 06:13.50 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 06:13.52 | Antiarc | I got it as a ghost |
| 06:13.54 | Antiarc | Automatically |
| 06:13.58 | Corgan | yeah |
| 06:14.08 | WobWork | is that like the EPL one? |
| 06:14.09 | Corgan | the spectral gryphon is epic |
| 06:14.16 | WobWork | cause that one is cool |
| 06:14.20 | Corgan | grumbles |
| 06:14.23 | Corgan | Antiarc, horde or alliance |
| 06:14.29 | Antiarc | ally |
| 06:14.31 | Corgan | bastard |
| 06:14.37 | Antiarc | why |
| 06:14.42 | WobWork | why would the horde get a griffin? |
| 06:14.46 | Corgan | they do. |
| 06:14.53 | Corgan | Antiarc, I wanted someone to play with :( |
| 06:14.58 | Corgan | I'm sitting at 78 ;D |
| 06:15.02 | Antiarc | aww |
| 06:15.40 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_082608_231339.jpg |
| 06:16.38 | WobWork | that's a terrbile shot =P |
| 06:16.46 | WobWork | terrible |
| 06:18.15 | sb | urg, playing wotlk with vista and only 2gb of ram isnt that nice :( |
| 06:18.37 | WobWork | sb: you make me fear getting the xpac |
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| 06:19.38 | sb | well.. even vista without wow sucks with only 2gb :) |
| 06:20.05 | kadrahil | sucks even more when you gave it 4gb |
| 06:20.08 | kadrahil | and it only sees 3gb |
| 06:20.14 | sb | got vista 64 |
| 06:20.17 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 06:21.13 | sb | have to check performance once i get my memory back |
| 06:21.32 | sb | and switch back to vista 32 if it stays that bad |
| 06:23.12 | WobWork | sticks to XP |
| 06:23.48 | sb | but wow 64 sucks :) |
| 06:24.00 | sb | and wow 32 with 3gb memory... well :) |
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| 06:40.02 | Wraithan | Haven't been able to find something that is all of what I want in a farming addon |
| 06:40.32 | Wraithan | I would like something htat keeps track of how much an hour of an item I am getting, and possibly be able to set goals so I know how much longer it is likely to take at the same rate |
| 06:40.36 | sb | meh, wrath uses 900mb here, another ~1gb for vista - so 2gb is really bad *sigh* :) |
| 06:40.53 | Wraithan | heh, my addons take 100mb... |
| 06:41.31 | sb | no idea why wow needs 900mb now |
| 06:43.25 | Wraithan | Anyone know of an addon or even some addons together that would provide that sort of functionality? |
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| 07:04.27 | Antiarc | Holy crap |
| 07:04.32 | Antiarc | These green quest legs are basically T6 |
| 07:04.35 | Antiarc | Socket and all |
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| 07:13.29 | vithos | well, but t6 legs are bad |
| 07:13.38 | vithos | right? |
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| 07:20.01 | Corgan | rofl |
| 07:20.02 | Corgan | Antiarc |
| 07:20.08 | Corgan | did you do the UDED quest? |
| 07:20.21 | Antiarc | yes |
| 07:20.23 | Corgan | ah |
| 07:20.24 | Antiarc | It's awesome |
| 07:20.25 | Corgan | that was amazing |
| 07:20.33 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_082708_001531.jpg |
| 07:21.56 | Corgan | double AP |
| 07:25.02 | VonhintenHOME` | what's the hit rating cap at 80? |
| 07:25.05 | VonhintenHOME` | for rogue |
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| 07:30.21 | Antiarc | Dunno yet |
| 07:30.33 | orionshock | grrr wtf is up with the world server going down? |
| 07:30.53 | Zhinjio | G"morning. |
| 07:32.45 | Zhinjio | I guess Ackis crashed on me. blah |
| 07:32.57 | Zhinjio | I was hoping he'd have a chance to look at the new GUI and make more comments |
| 07:33.10 | Zhinjio | anyone else feel like critique-ing a bit? |
| 07:33.27 | VonhintenHOME` | it looks like shit! |
| 07:33.30 | VonhintenHOME` | what UI? |
| 07:33.37 | Zhinjio | ARL |
| 07:33.46 | Zhinjio | in the display options go to "Test GUI" |
| 07:33.48 | Zhinjio | and then reload |
| 07:33.56 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't use ARL |
| 07:33.58 | Zhinjio | ok |
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| 07:44.38 | Elgren | Anyone know if I can change any other actionbar then actionbar 1 with the "changeactionbar" tag with a macro? |
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| 07:51.20 | Zyndrome | oh good, beta-forums down too |
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| 07:59.16 | orionshock | oy! Anyone think it's over kill if i modularize a questing addon? the addon being SickOfClickingDailies |
| 08:00.42 | Zhinjio | if it makes you happy, it isn't overkill |
| 08:00.55 | Zhinjio | what fun is coding if you can't have fun doing it? |
| 08:01.02 | Zhinjio | thats kind of pendanticasl. |
| 08:02.04 | orionshock | well it would be 100 times easier to do it if blizzard would give us questID's during the npc windows instead of after we've picked it up. |
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| 08:03.56 | CIA-47 | 03mikk * r81029 10Skillet/LibPossessions.lua: |
| 08:03.56 | CIA-47 | Skillet: |
| 08:03.56 | CIA-47 | - LibPossessions: Add support for Baggins_AnywhereBags |
| 08:04.00 | Xinhuan | anyone knows a small minimal addon that just adds timestamps (and nothing else) to chatframes? |
| 08:05.06 | orionshock | eh.. just write one :P |
| 08:05.17 | orionshock | would take ~5 lines |
| 08:05.41 | Xinhuan | would be faster if there's one out there |
| 08:06.35 | orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BasicChatMods/timestamps.lua |
| 08:07.47 | orionshock | WotLK compat too :D |
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| 08:08.46 | Zhinjio | chatter with only that module enabled? |
| 08:08.51 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * rfebe435 10/ : Fix hover issues in module config subframe - http://is.gd/1Xj1 |
| 08:09.00 | Xinhuan | that would still load the whole of chatter though |
| 08:10.00 | Antiarc | Chatter's pretty minimalistic |
| 08:10.05 | Antiarc | But you could rip off the timestamp module |
| 08:10.09 | Antiarc | And make it standalone |
| 08:10.11 | Antiarc | Pretty easily |
| 08:10.23 | Zhinjio | oh, Antiarc... I was gonna suggest something to you awhile back... um. |
| 08:10.31 | Zhinjio | oh, per chatframe fade settings? |
| 08:10.37 | Fisker- | i shat bricks |
| 08:10.38 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 08:10.40 | Antiarc | I'll look at it |
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| 08:13.37 | Xinhuan | yeah i'm just ripping out about 10 lines of code now for personal use ;p |
| 08:17.37 | Zhinjio | yeah, I generally leave fading off my chatfrqames, but I recently added a new frame just for watching loot events, and that one I want to fade out. |
| 08:18.37 | Antiarc | That makes sense |
| 08:18.38 | Antiarc | Though |
| 08:18.42 | Antiarc | XLoot, my good man :P |
| 08:18.53 | Zhinjio | hmm? never hoid of it. |
| 08:19.00 | Zhinjio | I'll check into it |
| 08:19.12 | Zhinjio | on wowace? |
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| 08:20.36 | Antiarc | :O |
| 08:20.39 | Antiarc | You've never used XLoot? |
| 08:20.43 | Zhinjio | nope |
| 08:20.44 | Antiarc | Get it all, XLoot, XLootMonitor, and XLootMaster |
| 08:20.46 | Antiarc | It's a godsend |
| 08:20.54 | Zhinjio | righty-o |
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| 08:24.10 | Zhinjio | god I love it when attack plans drop on the first kill |
| 08:24.49 | Zhinjio | alright, reloading to check out xloot goodness. |
| 08:28.23 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r8dfa88b 10/ : Add group threshold config, actually obey the config value now - http://is.gd/1Xko |
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| 08:30.58 | NivFreak | wow |
| 08:31.01 | NivFreak | recruit-a-friend is nuts |
| 08:31.11 | NivFreak | 24 hours played, and I have 2 lvl 50 toons |
| 08:31.22 | NivFreak | and I'm not exactly going at a breakneck speed |
| 08:31.29 | NivFreak | I spent 3 hours doing poisons and lockpicking |
| 08:31.37 | NivFreak | and a couple hours screwing with UIs/macros etvc |
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| 08:33.00 | Fisker- | hoho Antiarc |
| 08:33.05 | Fisker- | the PTR forums were just wiped |
| 08:33.09 | Antiarc | ..... |
| 08:33.10 | Antiarc | Heh. |
| 08:33.34 | Antiarc | Maybe they're going to put a PTR up soon |
| 08:33.38 | Antiarc | And have it on there several months |
| 08:33.42 | Antiarc | And use that to balance classes |
| 08:33.52 | nevcairiel | I still doubt it |
| 08:34.11 | nevcairiel | the class design is no-where near ready |
| 08:34.28 | Antiarc | well |
| 08:34.33 | Antiarc | I'm wondering if they want a PVPing audience |
| 08:34.37 | Fisker- | class design is never no-where near ready |
| 08:34.38 | Antiarc | Most beta testers are levelling |
| 08:34.38 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 08:34.51 | nevcairiel | also they need to balance it on Lvl80, not 70, and i seriously doubt they want to put up a open beta |
| 08:34.52 | Antiarc | So they want people focused on PVP for balancing? |
| 08:35.15 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 08:35.19 | Antiarc | I still think it'll be a while |
| 08:35.22 | nevcairiel | They'll do their second server and L80 premades if they want pvp |
| 08:36.07 | nevcairiel | maybe they have a new minor patch for live that needs testing |
| 08:36.09 | nevcairiel | who knows |
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| 08:37.37 | nevcairiel | But i'm still faiirly certain that no class is even close to "finished" to worry about balancing |
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| 08:55.13 | Zhinjio | Hey Elkano |
| 08:55.26 | Elkano | ho |
| 08:55.31 | Zhinjio | is EBB working in wotlk yet? last I checked it was borkerd |
| 08:55.33 | Antiarc | zomg |
| 08:55.35 | Zhinjio | borked too |
| 08:55.36 | Antiarc | This quest is awesome |
| 08:55.38 | Antiarc | You get a harpoon |
| 08:55.43 | Antiarc | And you have to use it to jump from drake to drake |
| 08:55.47 | Antiarc | And kill their riders |
| 08:55.51 | Antiarc | While like 2000 feet up |
| 08:55.51 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 08:55.53 | Fisker- | slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:56.00 | Fisker- | old but awesum |
| 08:56.17 | Corgan | Antiarc, what Fisker- said |
| 08:56.23 | Fisker- | Corgan die |
| 08:56.26 | Corgan | nou |
| 08:56.38 | Fisker- | nou |
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| 08:58.39 | Elkano | Zhinjio, it was before the latest patch... CancelUnitBuff is now protected :/ |
| 08:58.54 | Fisker- | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:59.39 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:01.38 | Zhinjio | gah. ok. |
| 09:01.48 | Zhinjio | I was having trouble displaying anything but the tracking widget |
| 09:02.05 | Zhinjio | I'll upload again before I beta again |
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| 09:08.15 | nevcairiel | pro-tip: dont use flyin mount in borean tundra |
| 09:08.23 | nevcairiel | its bugged and dismounts you all the time |
| 09:11.53 | Corgan | pro-tip: don't use flying mounts in starting areas ;D |
| 09:13.29 | Fisker- | kisses Corgan |
| 09:13.31 | Fisker- | ON THE MOUTH |
| 09:13.32 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:13.54 | Zyndrome | pro-tip : use path of frost, everywhere, your allies like it |
| 09:14.42 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 09:26.40 | Xinhuan | hmm if i delay frame creation of about 600 frames, it appears i save about 50 kb of ram only |
| 09:26.42 | Xinhuan | is it worth it? |
| 09:26.57 | nevcairiel | for 50kb? |
| 09:27.07 | nevcairiel | keep the code simple |
| 09:27.27 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Depends on what other resources are used in the delay. There's always a trade-off, even if it's just complexity as nevcairiel mentioned. |
| 09:27.37 | Xinhuan | there is no other resources used in the delay |
| 09:27.59 | Xinhuan | its a matter of creating it immediately on addon loading vs creating it only when displayed |
| 09:28.10 | Xinhuan | i found that the 600 frames or so only makes a difference of about 50 kb |
| 09:28.12 | Xinhuan | of memory |
| 09:28.27 | Thrae | Xinhuan: How much memory do you have in your computer? |
| 09:28.30 | Xinhuan | 2 gb |
| 09:28.45 | Xinhuan | basically i thought frames would use more memory ;p |
| 09:28.59 | Xinhuan | but appears not |
| 09:29.00 | Antiarc | a frame's just a table |
| 09:29.32 | Thrae | Well, there's the CPU resources necessary to run the code and create the frames. Usually people put it off to reduce the amount of resources eaten by just loading. |
| 09:29.52 | Antiarc | You could just do the frame creation across 100 frames or something |
| 09:30.05 | Antiarc | (rendered frames, not UI frames) |
| 09:30.23 | Xinhuan | well the addon only needs to display the frames AFTER the user types a /slash command |
| 09:30.33 | Thrae | Options GUI? |
| 09:30.55 | Xinhuan | just a set of bags |
| 09:31.02 | Xinhuan | virtual bags |
| 09:31.22 | Thrae | You could go one step further -- make the entire addon LoD, with the core addon just responding to slash commands. |
| 09:31.43 | Xinhuan | nah it has to record data ;p |
| 09:31.44 | Thrae | Depends on how big the addon is. |
| 09:31.51 | Xinhuan | it just doesn't have to display any until the user requests it |
| 09:32.16 | Xinhuan | so i'm like, hmm i wonder how much 600 frames cost in memory - and BAM its only 50 kb :( |
| 09:32.19 | Thrae | That reminds me, in 3.0, are we getting any new LoD mechanisms? |
| 09:33.32 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 09:34.01 | Thrae | That's partly because frames have become LoD themselves -- their methods aren't even instantiated until called. Once the frames are used, their usage can go up. Remember frames exist in both C and Lua space, with not all of their properties shown in Lua. |
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| 09:45.50 | Zyndrome | oh wow .. I'm half way to lvl 76 and I've forgot to learn the lvl 75 ranks and abilities |
| 09:47.22 | Arrowmaster | actually frames are purely C, they dont 'exist' at all in Lua other than the userdata object on index 0 of a table |
| 09:47.23 | Pkekyo| | are there any major airports in ontario? |
| 09:48.02 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: dont exist at all is kinda a stretch if you have 2 objects representing them .. the table and the userdata =P |
| 09:48.17 | Arrowmaster | you can copy the userdata object to a completely different table and all of the C functions for interacting with frames will work just like you were using the original table |
| 09:48.44 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: but its really just a userdata, the table is just convenience |
| 09:48.49 | Arrowmaster | and isnt needed at all |
| 09:49.55 | Arrowmaster | you can let the table get completely GCed and not exist at all anymore but if you still have a reference to the userdata then you still have the frame |
| 09:50.37 | nevcairiel | but you need a table to handle it |
| 09:50.59 | nevcairiel | with the right metatable |
| 09:51.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:51.10 | Arrowmaster | no metatable at all needed |
| 09:51.35 | Arrowmaster | all you need is a table with the userdata on index 0 |
| 09:51.47 | nevcairiel | you cant do shit with it then |
| 09:52.03 | nevcairiel | you either need another frame to reference the functions or the metatable |
| 09:52.03 | Arrowmaster | you might even be able to use a userdata proxy with a metatable that delivers the userdata on index 0 but i havent tried |
| 09:52.45 | Arrowmaster | true, but the table doesnt need the metatable of functions |
| 09:53.08 | Arrowmaster | you could make local refereces to them before you destroied the original table if you wanted to |
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| 09:54.19 | Arrowmaster | i reference you to my complete hackjob of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CombatLogTimestamper/CombatLogTimestamper.lua |
| 09:56.58 | Arrowmaster | my proxy table fakes out every one of the damn SetPoint hacks in the combatlog for that damn black bar |
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| 10:04.19 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5591989582&sid=1 <-ITS A BAG |
| 10:04.22 | Fisker- | also |
| 10:04.28 | Fisker- | A, B, C and G |
| 10:04.36 | Fisker- | always thought it was A, B, C, D |
| 10:04.38 | Fisker- | but still |
| 10:05.13 | Antiarc | Okay, this has the potential to be cool as hell |
| 10:05.14 | Antiarc | http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/08/introducing-ubiquity/ |
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| 10:10.31 | Lyn_ | does wow run on a notebook with a pentium dual core t2390 (1.86ghz), intel graphics media accelerator x3100 (graphic card), and 2gb ram? :x |
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| 10:10.45 | Lyn_ | on the lowest graphic details etc |
| 10:12.03 | Antiarc | The graphics card may be a problem |
| 10:12.06 | Antiarc | But the other specs are fine |
| 10:12.44 | Lyn_ | mh.. |
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| 10:26.52 | Zyndrome | bonks Coldarra on the noggin. Doh! |
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| 10:28.31 | Lyn_ | then it seems i should pay 50 more euros for 1gb more ram, better cpu and better graphics card :x |
| 10:29.56 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F30PYWYdkZ4 |
| 10:37.08 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 10:38.07 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 10:38.16 | Ellipsis | purrs |
| 10:39.23 | Zhinjio | took a video of the bebe hiccuping today |
| 10:39.26 | Zhinjio | which is just adorable. |
| 10:39.50 | Ellipsis | can has? |
| 10:40.53 | Corgan | Antiarc |
| 10:40.54 | Corgan | lol |
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| 10:43.03 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:43.23 | Ellipsis | mmm, trout |
| 10:43.29 | Ellipsis | om nom noms |
| 10:44.42 | Lonny` | Is there any way to implement customized frames into the Blizzard options ? |
| 10:45.32 | Zyndrome | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=14041.0 |
| 10:45.42 | Zyndrome | achievements with the content patch? oh dear |
| 10:46.51 | Fisker- | old news is old |
| 10:47.01 | Zyndrome | ur old |
| 10:48.20 | Zyndrome | go fix Coldarra instead |
| 10:48.54 | nevcairiel | I still dont expect the PTR patch within the next 3 weeks |
| 10:49.01 | nevcairiel | its still too much broken |
| 10:50.19 | nevcairiel | Maybe the next beta push will finally introduce the long talked about class changes, though |
| 10:52.21 | Fisker- | it'll be tomorrow nevcairiel |
| 10:52.31 | nevcairiel | no u |
| 10:52.32 | Fisker- | oddly enough PTR's is for testing >:3 |
| 10:52.44 | Fisker- | are* |
| 10:52.48 | nevcairiel | but PTR is usually for testing a finished design for bugs |
| 10:53.05 | Fisker- | finished at that point perhaps |
| 10:56.05 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11572&sid=1 >:3 |
| 10:57.26 | Lonny` | Is there any reference available for the Blizzard options ? (the forums are down) :/ |
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| 10:59.38 | Zyndrome | wtb beta build :\ |
| 11:00.31 | Fisker- | it comes today >:3 |
| 11:00.48 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: source ? (beside the fact it seems to be every thursday ?) |
| 11:01.13 | Fisker- | I AM THE ONLY SAUCE |
| 11:01.42 | nevcairiel | eats pasta with Fisker- sauce |
| 11:01.48 | Zyndrome | # All Fiskers have been removed. Game latency should now be normal. |
| 11:02.11 | Adirelle|work | would not taste any that gets out of Fisker- |
| 11:02.25 | Adirelle|work | -any +anything, damn |
| 11:02.30 | Adirelle|work | note to myself: learn typing |
| 11:03.00 | Fisker- | i don't lag teh servers Zyndrome >:3 |
| 11:03.07 | Zyndrome | oh yes u dooooooooooooooo |
| 11:03.20 | Zyndrome | especially the northrend continent |
| 11:03.33 | Fisker- | nope |
| 11:05.00 | Zyndrome | and wtf's this .. "Deadliest Catch" seem to be on Discovery Channel all day! |
| 11:06.16 | Lonny` | Is there a way to implement customized set of frames into the Blizzard options ? |
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| 11:09.47 | sb | mhh - need information about german t-online wow payment :) |
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| 11:17.54 | restored | anyone else having auto-loot issues with fishermansfriend as of lastest build ? |
| 11:22.12 | orionshock | northrend down again? |
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| 11:32.25 | Lonny` | I'm pretty new to Ace, and I'm "struggling" to find any reference for the Blizzard options API to build the UI options for my addon with no luck, I'm using AceConfig, and I need to make some specific customization and AceConfig seems limited at least to my acknowledgement with Ace, is there a way to inject specific set of frames, elements into the Blizzard options ? |
| 11:33.53 | orionshock | Best place to look is the actual lib files, nearly all the public functions are documented there |
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| 11:36.43 | orionshock | i think your looking for AddToBlizOptions for AceConfigDialogue |
| 11:36.59 | FtH|Daemona | wow ... coldarra is a burning heap of electronic shit... |
| 11:37.22 | FtH|Daemona | i just went auto-afk while fighting a mob |
| 11:37.45 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows an addon that uses "AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets" or know how to use? :S |
| 11:37.59 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: kgpanels |
| 11:38.16 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: ok thanks, ill check it :D |
| 11:40.40 | [SW]Dodge | ah... ok i have to use dialogControl = 'LSM30_Font', and not "type =..." :D |
| 11:40.59 | Lonny` | Hmm, nop, AceConfig was pretty straightforward, I'm looking for the reference for Blizzard UI options API specifically, do you know by a chance where can I find it (I already tried to look for Iriel threads) ? |
| 11:41.40 | Lonny` | I've might missed it though :) |
| 11:43.09 | [SW]Dodge | Lonny`: did you checked teh AceConfigDialoge? |
| 11:43.54 | [SW]Dodge | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua <- use ctrl+F to search for "AddToBliz" |
| 11:43.58 | [SW]Dodge | there it is |
| 11:44.25 | Lonny` | Hmm the use of RegisterOptionsTable, AddToBlizOptions was pretty straightforward, yeah I've look at it :) |
| 11:45.56 | CIA-47 | 03dodge * r81030 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:45.56 | CIA-47 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 11:45.56 | CIA-47 | - Now using the new "AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets" for font select, that allows to see the fonts as preview in the drop down :) |
| 11:46.15 | Lonny` | I'm not looking for the Ace API, it's heavy documented and again straightforward, I'm looking for the Blizzard ones :P |
| 11:46.31 | nevcairiel | the blizz one has docs too |
| 11:46.35 | nevcairiel | somewhere in the framexml lua |
| 11:46.37 | Lonny` | Where ? :) |
| 11:47.59 | Lonny` | I'll try to extract the MPQ again, thanks anyway :P |
| 11:49.15 | [SW]Dodge | ~framexml |
| 11:49.16 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 11:49.28 | [SW]Dodge | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ <- there you can download teh files |
| 11:49.29 | Lonny` | I'm using WinMPQ |
| 11:49.32 | [SW]Dodge | or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 11:49.37 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 11:49.41 | Lonny` | :) |
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| 11:51.04 | Lonny` | I'm trying to create buttons in the Blizzard UI options, note, these buttons just used to represents some data not ActionButtons or anything, but AceConfig supports few limited types, and there my problem starts :P |
| 11:53.31 | Arrowmaster | you realize AceConfigDialog is really just a simple interface to AceGUI right? and you can do more custom stuff with that and creating your own widgets |
| 11:54.55 | Lonny` | No mate, I'm pretty new to Ace, so while the API are pretty easy to use, I still don't understand it fully, but thanks :) |
| 11:56.38 | Arrowmaster | the whole blizz options ui works by supplying your own frame when you register to it, and that frame has all the content attached to it, thats how people create custom ones |
| 11:57.01 | Arrowmaster | but if your using AceConfig then you really cant directly modify it outside of the Ace API |
| 11:57.10 | Arrowmaster | or atleast not very safely |
| 11:58.09 | Arrowmaster | oh and actually for just buttons i think you want to use an 'execute' type |
| 11:59.02 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 11:59.08 | Arrowmaster | if you didnt already know about that page |
| 11:59.19 | Lonny` | Well, I thought to use the Blizzard API for that and rest of the addon built on Ace, it's a button, but the button visually looks like an ActionButton |
| 11:59.41 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 12:00.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah for something like that you should either do the config page completely custom or youll need to mess with AceGUI |
| 12:01.25 | Arrowmaster | i actually have no clue how to use custom AceGUI widgets with AceConfigDialog, but im perty sure its possible |
| 12:01.37 | Arrowmaster | im not a GUI person |
| 12:01.59 | Lonny` | Yeah, I'm sure it's possible in one way or another, just that I'm lack the knowledge with Ace :P |
| 12:05.33 | orionshock | nice, despite there being no args to an event, aceEvent3 still passes the event :D |
| 12:05.40 | Lonny` | I think I've found a way to combine them, I'll just use Ace partially, and have another frame shown for my customized GUI executed by a button or something :) |
| 12:06.45 | Lonny` | Thanks for the help |
| 12:07.29 | CIA-47 | 03oridan * r81031 10SpellReminder/core.lua: |
| 12:07.30 | CIA-47 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:07.30 | CIA-47 | - re-enable scanning of tooltip for durations. |
| 12:11.29 | Fisker- | Antiarc |
| 12:11.34 | Antiarc | Fisker-: |
| 12:11.39 | Fisker- | you got any good holy paladin in your raids? >:3 |
| 12:11.51 | Antiarc | Several, in fact |
| 12:11.52 | Antiarc | what's up? |
| 12:12.00 | Fisker- | can i has armory profiles? :o |
| 12:12.14 | Antiarc | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Argat |
| 12:12.18 | Antiarc | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Rotav |
| 12:12.30 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 12:12.52 | Fisker- | moar like slowarmory.com >:d |
| 12:13.58 | Fisker- | the spellhaste gems confuses and infuriates me |
| 12:14.06 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 12:14.09 | Antiarc | I'm not a paladin |
| 12:14.23 | Antiarc | Lowered GCD I guess? |
| 12:14.31 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:14.52 | Fisker- | I prefer int and mp5 myself |
| 12:15.37 | Fisker- | there should be some kind of gem planner addon |
| 12:16.05 | Antiarc | man |
| 12:16.08 | Antiarc | instant slam is just silly |
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| 12:22.44 | orionshock | question - aceAddon-3, does it pass the event name to OnEnable/Disable? |
| 12:22.58 | nevcairiel | what event name? |
| 12:23.01 | nevcairiel | but no |
| 12:23.06 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81032 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: |
| 12:23.06 | CIA-47 | Yatba: |
| 12:23.06 | CIA-47 | - stupid buff scanning code is stupid, |
| 12:23.06 | CIA-47 | - take _AURA_REFRESH events into account. |
| 12:25.58 | orionshock | k |
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| 12:38.37 | harl | my cellular's broken :/ |
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| 12:47.20 | Pkekyo| | I hate UPS parcel tracking :'( |
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| 12:47.55 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:48.13 | Fisker- | i once had lulz |
| 12:48.26 | Fisker- | i purchased an authenticator |
| 12:48.37 | Fisker- | and i got the tracking number a couple of days after i had it in my mailbox |
| 12:48.51 | Fisker- | surprise surprise, my authenticator had already been delivered |
| 12:48.51 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 12:51.07 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: authenticator? |
| 12:53.02 | Fisker- | Blizzard Authenticator |
| 12:53.06 | dodga | Fisker-: heart moving story |
| 12:53.06 | Pkekyo| | how many KGs are 3.5 lbs? |
| 12:53.09 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: what's that? |
| 12:53.38 | jnwhiteh | lua> 3.5 / 2.2 |
| 12:53.39 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: 1.5909090909091 |
| 12:53.44 | jnwhiteh | 1.59kg |
| 12:54.04 | Fisker- | otherwise l2google |
| 12:54.09 | Pkekyo| | $116 shipping for 1.59kg?! |
| 12:54.16 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: tried, only got shopping results for groceries :/ |
| 12:54.41 | Fisker- | "3.5 lbs in kg" |
| 12:54.42 | Fisker- | = win |
| 12:55.08 | dodga | lulz, authenticator sold out / not available in europe |
| 12:55.11 | dodga | yaaaay. not. |
| 12:55.13 | Fisker- | btw you're off .003 jnwhiteh :D |
| 12:55.13 | Pkekyo| | oh, I wrote 'as' :/ |
| 12:55.28 | Fisker- | :)! |
| 12:55.38 | jnwhiteh | i round :P~ |
| 12:56.29 | nevcairiel | dodga: just check the page once a day or so, they restock occasionally but get sold out again within 24h |
| 12:56.30 | Fisker- | btw i had lulz |
| 12:56.42 | Fisker- | someone complaining about being unable to get his gear back from some account hacked like 8 months ago |
| 12:56.53 | Fisker- | solution? Go play warhammer of course |
| 12:57.07 | nevcairiel | definately |
| 12:57.17 | dodga | really? I see |
| 12:57.26 | Fisker- | People who think WoW has bad support will probably kill themself when they start playing Warhammer or AoC |
| 12:57.54 | nevcairiel | You know what sucks |
| 12:57.56 | nevcairiel | trying to explore storm peaks |
| 12:58.03 | nevcairiel | and accidently flying into icecrown |
| 12:58.08 | Pkekyo| | the ending of BSG s1 is a damn slap to the nutsack |
| 12:58.11 | Fisker- | Friend of mine who bought an item which didn't work(Somewhat common bug in AoC) and he just bought the same (which worked) and they wouldn't give him the money back for the second, they just told him he should've waited :D |
| 12:58.18 | sb | dodga: you suck!! |
| 12:58.21 | Fisker- | put it in reverse nevcairiel |
| 12:58.29 | sb | dodga: authenticator was available ~1 month ago :p |
| 12:59.08 | dodga | sb: How did you know! How told! |
| 12:59.16 | dodga | Who.. man my typing is all arse since some weeks |
| 12:59.34 | sb | dodga: uhm - i got one :p |
| 13:00.00 | dodga | No I mean who told you I'd suck |
| 13:00.05 | sb | well... |
| 13:00.07 | sb | you? :( |
| 13:00.10 | dodga | :/ |
| 13:00.37 | dodga | I will get one! |
| 13:01.29 | sb | brb reboot, installing new hardware |
| 13:01.32 | Adirelle|work | Lonny`: I'm quite sure you can define new kind of AceGUI widgets |
| 13:01.35 | nevcairiel | hahaha some guy crying in /1 that he cannot travel in storm peaks without a flying mount |
| 13:01.38 | nevcairiel | he is L70 |
| 13:01.48 | Stanzilla | lol, if you press "Set Focus" on the beta you get "Ace3 has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI" ^^ |
| 13:01.52 | dodga | L70 in beta and no flying mount? |
| 13:02.06 | sb | flying mount quest is level 76 or something like that!? |
| 13:02.08 | dodga | I will kill the people at Blizz that pick out who gets a key |
| 13:02.13 | Pneumatus | 77 |
| 13:02.16 | sb | (for northrend) |
| 13:02.18 | dodga | Oh there was something.. |
| 13:02.42 | Adirelle|work | Lonny`: that's what AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets does |
| 13:02.45 | Pkekyo| | what's a blizzard authenticator? |
| 13:03.10 | Adirelle|work | Lonny`: it defines new AceGUI-3.0 widgets, that could be later used in AceConfigDialog |
| 13:04.38 | Adirelle|work | Pkekyo|: an hardware cryptographic device |
| 13:04.39 | dodga | Pkekyo|: A piece of hardware that generates a "random" number that you need to enter in addition to your passwort when logging in |
| 13:04.50 | dodga | or what adirelle said.. :o |
| 13:04.54 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 13:05.03 | Pkekyo| | and the point is? |
| 13:05.15 | Adirelle|work | increased security |
| 13:05.20 | dodga | well somebody haxxors your passwort and your acc is gone? |
| 13:05.23 | Adirelle|work | about your account |
| 13:05.36 | Pkekyo| | oh, like the blue tiny crap my bank gave me then...I guess.. |
| 13:05.44 | dodga | yeah something like that |
| 13:06.08 | Pkekyo| | http://static.nettby.no/users/h/p/9/hp91/files/CommunistFacebook.jpg |
| 13:06.09 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 13:06.30 | Adirelle|work | Pkekyo|: does it generates some number each to you push it "generate" button ? |
| 13:06.46 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 13:06.56 | Adirelle|work | it's the same thing then |
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| 13:07.16 | Adirelle|work | you need to physically have the authenticator to login |
| 13:07.47 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 13:07.50 | Pkekyo| | it's annoying as hell |
| 13:07.54 | Adirelle|work | even with 12 keyloggers on the computer, you're pretty safe |
| 13:07.54 | Pkekyo| | I keep losing the damn thing |
| 13:08.22 | dodga | What? only "pretty"?! I thought I was "really" safe :/ |
| 13:08.39 | Adirelle|work | actually, the generated number is valid a couple seconds |
| 13:09.08 | Adirelle|work | a very, very responsive hacker could try both password and number in the validity window |
| 13:09.17 | Adirelle|work | it is quite unlikely to happen |
| 13:09.34 | Pneumatus | how do you remove an authenticator from an account? |
| 13:09.50 | dodga | You don't? :D |
| 13:10.02 | dodga | I think you need to call Account Support or something like that |
| 13:10.02 | Pneumatus | so if you lose/break it, you're screwed? |
| 13:10.23 | dodga | Theoretically :D |
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| 13:10.47 | Pneumatus | so you end up being a fortnight without the game because account services take forever to respond to anything |
| 13:10.59 | Pneumatus | (at a very conservative estimate) |
| 13:11.02 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=24660&rhtml=true |
| 13:11.08 | Adirelle|work | => "While you can add the Blizzard Authenticator as you wish, removing it will require a call to billing and account services." |
| 13:11.26 | CIA-47 | 03ananhaid * r81033 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua): |
| 13:11.26 | CIA-47 | Parrot: |
| 13:11.26 | CIA-47 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 13:12.03 | dodga | Yeah. And while they fix the mess you need to do other drugs so you don't get withdrawal syndromes! :> |
| 13:12.15 | Pneumatus | so you can still social engineer it off of the account, without having the authenticator in hand |
| 13:12.18 | dodga | I think they give you a discount on meth or so |
| 13:13.10 | dodga | Pneumatus: If the authenticator is associated with an account then that account is not able to log in without the authenticator |
| 13:13.40 | Pneumatus | dodga: if you 'lose' the authenticator then anyone with the right info can call customer support and remove it from the account though |
| 13:13.58 | dodga | Yeah |
| 13:14.15 | dodga | Just like anybody with the "right info" can call your bank and withdraw your money :o |
| 13:15.01 | Pneumatus | different situation, you'd have to forge a signature |
| 13:16.11 | dodga | Not if your a customer of a bank that has no "physical" branch |
| 13:16.20 | dodga | Damned, you're*.. |
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| 13:17.39 | CIA-47 | 03anadale * r81034 10UnderHood/Modules/ (Bars/Provider_Ticker.lua Buffs/Spells.lua): |
| 13:17.39 | CIA-47 | UnderHood: |
| 13:17.39 | CIA-47 | - Added fix to energy ticker - thank to Nox |
| 13:17.39 | CIA-47 | - Bloodthirst spell ID changed - thanks to KcuhC |
| 13:17.59 | dodga | The point is with enough "right information" you can probably circumvent every mechanism |
| 13:18.20 | dodga | Otherwise "valid" people wouldn't be able to do recovery |
| 13:34.51 | kenlyric | people - the greatest point of failure |
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| 13:37.38 | Fisker- | you can remove the blizzard authenticator given that you were able to access account management |
| 13:37.45 | Fisker- | if not you'll have to call support |
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| 13:50.03 | CIA-47 | 03pprovost * r81035 10Broker_Bags/Broker_Bags.toc: Broker_Bags: Removed unneeded dependency from TOC |
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| 13:52.23 | CIA-47 | 03pprovost * r81036 10Broker_RaidTargets/: Broker_RaidTargets: Creating empty project folder |
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| 13:56.54 | kenlyric | GODDAMN MMOS AND THEIR DYING DEATH WHEN AFK |
| 13:57.26 | kenlyric | dear blizzard, please put a pause button in the game, thank you |
| 13:57.39 | dodga | Just pull out the console :> |
| 13:57.44 | dodga | Like in Quake 3 ehehe |
| 13:58.00 | CIA-47 | 03pprovost * r81037 10Broker_RaidTargets/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Broker_RaidTargets: Initial version commit |
| 13:58.20 | Obelixprime | Ackis: ping |
| 14:00.58 | kenlyric | my first 60 was a night elf. |
| 14:01.01 | kenlyric | I got spoiled :/ |
| 14:04.11 | dodga | Hm the only chars I ever really played are my NE Priest and my NE Rogue lulz :o |
| 14:06.10 | Elkano | f or m? |
| 14:06.22 | kenlyric | my second char to 70 was a hunter, so if something attacked me it was dead when I got back |
| 14:06.23 | dodga | Won't tell :P |
| 14:06.43 | dodga | but I can say NE females did have bigger breasts in the US stress test :P |
| 14:06.57 | kenlyric | mine was a male |
| 14:07.15 | kenlyric | of all the race/gender combos, he looked best in a dress |
| 14:07.32 | Elkano | I can't stand male elves... either race |
| 14:07.47 | kenlyric | the abs are epic |
| 14:08.04 | kenlyric | not on the twinks, obviously, they're smooth and supple |
| 14:08.07 | kenlyric | but nelfs are built |
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| 14:10.50 | Adirelle|work | I wrote a light debug log lib, that mainly embeds 3 methods : Debug, ToggleDebugLog and IsDebugLogEnabled |
| 14:11.19 | Adirelle|work | would it be "odd" that I add a small code stub in the standalone version to make the debug state persistent (i.e. saved in SV) ? |
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| 14:12.24 | dodga | not if there is a noticeable message that says "THE FRIKKIN DEBUG STATE IS SAVED ACROSS LOGINS FFS!" :> |
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| 14:17.03 | Adirelle|work | the idea is to embed the lib that won't be noticed by EU, but install the standalone version as a developper to have some more features |
| 14:18.59 | Adirelle|work | or maybe I should make a addon like 'LibDebugBackend' that adds those features |
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| 14:22.22 | CIA-47 | 03xinhuan * r81038 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Delay creation of some 600+ child frames and textures (mostly item buttons) until they are shown (saves 50kb). Experimental. May screw up Skinner. |
| 14:22.47 | Fisker- | screwing up skinner is good! |
| 14:22.57 | Josh_Borke | fuck skinner! |
| 14:23.02 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 14:23.10 | Xinhuan | 36 buttons x 14 bags |
| 14:23.33 | Xinhuan | = 504 buttons + 28 main bank + 14 bag buttons |
| 14:23.51 | Xinhuan | + 14 bag portraits + a number of dropdowns, checkboxes |
| 14:24.28 | Josh_Borke | obviously you should create them using a single xml template, that way skniner can modify the template instead of the buttons |
| 14:24.44 | Xinhuan | i inherit them from blizzard's itembutton template |
| 14:24.55 | Josh_Borke | well then you just FAIL! |
| 14:25.09 | Xinhuan | not really, its just convenient |
| 14:25.21 | Josh_Borke | ~fail Xinhuan |
| 14:25.21 | purl | Xinhuan: FAIL! |
| 14:25.24 | Josh_Borke | see, purl fails you too |
| 14:25.30 | Xinhuan | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 14:25.30 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Josh_Borke with the sea of tranquility |
| 14:25.42 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 14:26.18 | Xinhuan | there is nothing wrong with blizzard's item button template, apart from having lots of globals |
| 14:26.41 | Xinhuan | and even that in itself is not "wrong" |
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| 14:27.39 | dodga | man i want Sanity2 updated. last time i used it it went totally fubar on me :/ |
| 14:27.55 | dodga | and I hate it when "bank addons" show you icons :o |
| 14:28.05 | dodga | also, the search in bankitems sucks *runs* |
| 14:28.17 | Xinhuan | its simplistic ;p |
| 14:28.31 | dodga | yeah, what I said :> |
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| 14:30.56 | Antiarc | I need to just rewrite Sanity |
| 14:31.04 | Antiarc | In my copious spare time |
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| 14:31.27 | Xinhuan | you could have written that if you didn't write Flippy! ;p |
| 14:31.34 | Antiarc | I wrote Flippy in an afternoon |
| 14:31.38 | Antiarc | Sanity's a little more complex :P |
| 14:31.51 | Xinhuan | complex addons consist of many afternoons ;p |
| 14:32.05 | Xinhuan | without the first afternoon, the 2nd afternoon doesn't come! |
| 14:32.55 | Stanzilla | (fix chatter first) :P |
| 14:33.00 | Adirelle|work | so I'll try svn import in the wowace svn... |
| 14:33.12 | Antiarc | I fixed chatter, but I haven't committed it yet |
| 14:33.15 | Antiarc | Since I haven't tested it |
| 14:33.18 | Stanzilla | that's cool :P |
| 14:33.33 | Obelixprime | just do the luac -p thing |
| 14:33.37 | Obelixprime | and it should work fine :D |
| 14:33.53 | dodga | Wat is Flippy? |
| 14:35.37 | Antiarc | Flippy is awesomeness in addon form |
| 14:35.39 | Antiarc | It's on wowace |
| 14:35.41 | Antiarc | install it |
| 14:35.50 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81039 10LibDebugLog-1.0/ (12 files in 4 dirs): LibDebugLog-1.0: initial version. |
| 14:36.00 | jnwhiteh | just looking at the code made me giggle :P |
| 14:36.19 | Adirelle|work | woot, that actually worked oO |
| 14:36.27 | Xinhuan | whats this new lib do? |
| 14:37.20 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: provides simple debug logs, but more is to come |
| 14:37.36 | Xinhuan | debug logs of what? |
| 14:37.42 | Adirelle|work | of your addon |
| 14:37.54 | Pneumatus | rather than spamming to DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME? |
| 14:37.56 | AckisWork | ~lart Obelixprime |
| 14:37.56 | purl | slams Obelixprime against a large cement Tux |
| 14:38.02 | Xinhuan | not quite sure what you mean |
| 14:38.11 | Xinhuan | by "debug logs of my addon" |
| 14:38.26 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: that the default behavior, but it allow to plug in a "sink" that will receive all log messages |
| 14:38.41 | dodga | Antiarc: No can do :P |
| 14:38.53 | dodga | but I will look at the code until I iz enlightened! |
| 14:38.55 | Xinhuan | i'm not understanding what a "log message" is |
| 14:39.12 | Pneumatus | what does it do above and beyond AceConsole:Print() then? |
| 14:39.42 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: a message you print from your addon to check some internal states |
| 14:39.51 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: mostly used when you're debugging your addon |
| 14:39.56 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_082508_210848s.jpg <-- Flippy |
| 14:40.20 | Xinhuan | ok, how does the lib help over a standard ChatFrame1:AddMessage(blah) or AceConsole:Print(blah) |
| 14:40.28 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: what ever happened to HealCap? |
| 14:40.35 | dodga | eheh shoot flippy.. :o |
| 14:41.00 | dodga | Uh I like that :o |
| 14:41.14 | Antiarc | HealCap got forgotten >_> |
| 14:41.43 | Josh_Borke | Adirelle|work: you mean like, local function debug(msg, lvl) if lvl > currentDebugLevel then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg) end end ? |
| 14:42.22 | CIA-47 | 03next96 * r81040 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 14:42.22 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:42.22 | CIA-47 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:42.30 | Xinhuan | what i want to know is, what the lib offers over something that already exists, and how its better, or if its something new at all |
| 14:43.05 | Adirelle|work | wait |
| 14:43.12 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: why are you letting a spriest do more dps than you? slacker |
| 14:43.12 | Adirelle|work | can't reply to all of you at the same time |
| 14:43.20 | Antiarc | I was PVP specced :P |
| 14:43.27 | Josh_Borke | excuses excuses |
| 14:43.40 | Antiarc | Because screw respeccing for lolz BT |
| 14:43.53 | dodga | Antiarc: Whose screenshot is that? And why is she/he having Grid and (what seems to be) PerfectRaid at the same time as rogue.. talk about UI clutter and redundancy :o |
| 14:43.55 | Xinhuan | as it is, there tends to be "lib authors" that write libs that nobody uses or only 1 addon will use it, so it shouldn't really have been a lib in the first place (if the code isn't going to be shared among a number of addons) |
| 14:44.09 | Pkekyo| | 7msg nickserv identify |
| 14:44.16 | dodga | Pkekyo|: Close, try again :> |
| 14:44.25 | Antiarc | That's mine, and it's Pitbull, not PerfectRaid, and I have grid because I used it before I set up PitBull like that and never took it ou :P |
| 14:44.26 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 14:44.27 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: it doesn't hurt making it a lib if you think other people might use it |
| 14:44.27 | Pkekyo| | I suck |
| 14:44.36 | dodga | /soothe |
| 14:44.44 | Pkekyo| | :( |
| 14:44.45 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: where's your PASSWORD ? |
| 14:44.59 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: that's why i'm asking what the lib offers, to determine if its good/usable and offers fomething new! :) |
| 14:45.01 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: I have a condition in which I pr |
| 14:45.05 | Pkekyo| | ess enter before I should :/ |
| 14:45.09 | Lukian | hahah, what addon is the "clippit" merlock? |
| 14:45.19 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: Flippy? |
| 14:45.23 | dodga | Lukian: Flippy! Pay attention! :> |
| 14:45.26 | Lukian | that's cute! |
| 14:45.39 | dodga | Uh Antiarc add that MS Word clipthingie |
| 14:45.45 | Antiarc | Flippy will eventually yell at you for being a moron |
| 14:45.53 | Antiarc | Right now he stands there, dances for you, and you can shoot him |
| 14:46.12 | dodga | "I couldn't move out of the fire, I had to close the darn clipguy window!" |
| 14:48.56 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan, Josh_Borke, Pneumatus: I'm writing the wiki page (and actually at least all my addons will use this libs, as I copy a Debug.lua in most of them) |
| 14:49.37 | Xinhuan | if its purely for debugging, that means the lib/debug.lua shouldn't actually be in a release addon at all? |
| 14:50.15 | Ellipsis | I fail to see why this lib should ever make it onto users' computers, especially after an addon becomes somewhat stable |
| 14:50.29 | CIA-47 | 037destiny * r81041 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 14:50.29 | CIA-47 | BigBrother: |
| 14:50.29 | CIA-47 | - koKR Update |
| 14:50.43 | Josh_Borke | i can see why it could be included |
| 14:50.52 | Josh_Borke | perhaps the user encounters a bug |
| 14:50.57 | Josh_Borke | rather than forcing him to install something else |
| 14:51.04 | Josh_Borke | you can just have him toggle a bit, so to speak |
| 14:51.38 | Xinhuan | also you haven't said if it offers anything better than AceConsole:PrintLiteral(), or Rock's one, or the one in DevTools |
| 14:51.49 | dodga | if it's small and unobtrusive the benefit is big enough to justify it's existence |
| 14:51.57 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: don't forget about Fire |
| 14:52.10 | Xinhuan | i'm frost sorry :D |
| 14:52.20 | Ellipsis | dodga: only if addon authors actually use it, which means they need to see a benefit to having it :P |
| 14:52.46 | dodga | yeah okay, software that isn't used wasn't worth to be written in the first place |
| 14:53.06 | dodga | but then again we're not talking about software that cost a gazillion but stuff people do for fun in their free time |
| 14:53.09 | dodga | so nyah :P |
| 14:55.18 | Ellipsis | yes but it's really a sad waste of free time to invent a lib which is only going to be used once aynway :P |
| 14:55.46 | Ellipsis | coughs http://wowace.com/wiki/CommonUI |
| 14:55.57 | AckisWork | used once? |
| 14:56.09 | Xinhuan | well, i genuinely want to know what the lib does :D after all people write stuff for others to use right? (but it has to be something useful or offer something more than an existing solution) |
| 14:56.21 | Xinhuan | brb boss pull hehe |
| 14:56.52 | dodga | Ellipsis: Let people waste their time how they want? |
| 14:57.02 | AckisWork | I wonder what the comments would have been if I put http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/libaboutpanel/ on the Ace svn :P |
| 14:57.19 | Ellipsis | they're welcome to do so, but I don't like them polluting my UI :P would rather use an alternative addon or manually edit it to remove the crap |
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| 14:57.46 | dodga | Ellipsis: Don't use their addons then? |
| 14:57.54 | dodga | This free will crap is a curse, ain't it! |
| 14:58.17 | AckisWork | shoves 12 million libraries down Ellipsis' throat. |
| 14:58.31 | Ellipsis | pukes on AckisWork's shoes |
| 14:59.32 | dodga | AckisWork: I laughed hard reading the addon name, but actually I think that's a funky idea. Honestly though, $not_so_dumb_user could just look into the .toc for the same information without cluttering up the UI :D |
| 14:59.56 | dodga | but then again, it's the options interface, wtf cries about one menu point more there |
| 15:00.04 | Ellipsis | . |
| 15:00.21 | Ellipsis | if it doesn't have options, get it out of my options window :P |
| 15:00.30 | AckisWork | dodga: do you really want an interface that requires a user to view code? :P hehe Once I added that to my mods I started getting more and more tickets on CF |
| 15:01.37 | Xinhuan | well see ackis, that LibAboutpanel or whatever offers something that no other lib does (at least not without requiring ace2) ;p |
| 15:01.37 | Josh_Borke | AckisWork: i like that library, i think it's a good idea |
| 15:02.17 | AckisWork | the idea was tekkub's btw (for full disclosure) I just bastardized it and added features to it |
| 15:02.20 | dodga | AckisWork: Well.. assuming I installed that very addon myself I already know what it does and maybe it's version number, also where to get it and probably who wrote it and just maybe how to contact that person, so the most interesting data the about panel shows is already available before even starting wow :D |
| 15:02.28 | Josh_Borke | and i think the comment about users reading the toc is misplaced because most users wouldn't know how to do that |
| 15:02.34 | dodga | Anyway, as I alreay said, it's funky nevertheless :> |
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| 15:05.02 | dodga | Okay, I wonder who I do it, but every time I do join a discussion here it abruptly ends. |
| 15:05.24 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:05.28 | AckisWork | I blame Ellipsis |
| 15:05.29 | dodga | No kidding! |
| 15:05.35 | dodga | Hm makes sense |
| 15:05.38 | dodga | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 15:05.38 | purl | smacks Ellipsis up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 15:07.20 | Josh_Borke | someone make video of libstickyframes-2.0 in action |
| 15:07.21 | Pkekyo| | "Women are like a carpet... lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them forever" |
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| 15:08.14 | dodga | Pkekyo|: That's harsh. |
| 15:08.17 | dodga | I like it :> |
| 15:08.44 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: care to test that theory? |
| 15:08.57 | Dark_Elf | at least till they get worn out, then have to replace them :p |
| 15:09.08 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I feel rather confident it's legit, but hell, proof of concept can't hurt... |
| 15:09.28 | AckisWork | hi5's Pkekyo| |
| 15:09.39 | Ellipsis | go on then, prove it to me ;) |
| 15:10.06 | Pkekyo| | just facilitate it and I'll take part in the procedings |
| 15:10.08 | Obelixprime | ackiswork |
| 15:10.14 | Obelixprime | your macros are sex |
| 15:10.18 | Obelixprime | but i don't have bars for them |
| 15:10.23 | Obelixprime | and autobar works wonky with macros |
| 15:10.42 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:12.37 | Obelixprime | but i did suceed in getting rid of 3 bars in my UI |
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| 15:12.43 | Obelixprime | action bars |
| 15:12.47 | nocts|work | What theory? |
| 15:12.54 | Obelixprime | nocts! |
| 15:12.55 | Obelixprime | you're here |
| 15:13.25 | nocts|work | What's up, Obelixprime? |
| 15:13.26 | Antiarc | How do I get an item's ilevel? |
| 15:13.46 | Zhinjio | hey AckisWork |
| 15:13.51 | AckisWork | sup Zhinjio |
| 15:14.00 | Ellipsis | nocts|work: [8:07:50 am] <Pkekyo|> "Women are like a carpet... lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them forever" |
| 15:14.01 | Zhinjio | did you get a chance to look at last night's push? |
| 15:14.19 | Ellipsis | what do you think, is he right? ;) |
| 15:14.23 | AckisWork | no I didn't =/ |
| 15:14.58 | Zhinjio | I'll see if I can screenie the last little bit I worked on |
| 15:15.07 | Fisker- | improves his carpetlaying techniques on Ellipsis |
| 15:15.13 | AckisWork | k |
| 15:15.17 | Ellipsis | down boy |
| 15:15.29 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: ofcourse I'm right |
| 15:15.37 | Zhinjio | my variant on that was always "lick them right the first time, and they'll never leave you" |
| 15:15.43 | nocts|work | I don't see how that's a valid theory. |
| 15:15.44 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: shh, I'm particularly interested in nocts' answer to this one :P |
| 15:15.53 | nocts|work | one sec, on call |
| 15:15.54 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 15:16.01 | Ellipsis | honestly though I'm pretty sure it works on men |
| 15:16.11 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't surprise me |
| 15:16.16 | Ellipsis | not sure how you could say it applies to women though :) |
| 15:16.17 | Obelixprime | http://colekas.brethren-guild.org/WoWScrnShot_082608_212853.jpg |
| 15:16.23 | Obelixprime | i did some of the changes you suggested |
| 15:16.45 | Obelixprime | i found that removing the bars worked for the most part |
| 15:16.48 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: trust me, it does :P |
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| 15:17.20 | Obelixprime | but had issues focusing on dots and what not by using purely pitbull debuff auras |
| 15:17.38 | Obelixprime | so i looked a lot at dotimers |
| 15:17.54 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: was your goal in that UI to use as many different bar textures as possible? |
| 15:18.45 | Obelixprime | Ellipsis - ... no, not really :( |
| 15:18.49 | Obelixprime | <= bad ui designer |
| 15:18.50 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 15:18.56 | nocts|work | okay, back. |
| 15:18.58 | Throngy | Obelixprime: What's the meter in the top-left corner? |
| 15:19.06 | nocts|work | Pkekyo|: I think that's a rather broad, dumb assumption of "male power" |
| 15:19.06 | Obelixprime | swstats |
| 15:19.10 | Ellipsis | 'cause I was gonna say, you missed an opportunity...it looks like your ora and swstats are using the same banto |
| 15:19.15 | Throngy | ta |
| 15:19.45 | nocts|work | You're assuming that the woman lack a center of confidence and authority, but finds it simply easier to give you your way until she gets to the point that she wants something else. |
| 15:19.58 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2365-1/arl_0017.jpg |
| 15:20.02 | nocts|work | Now, if your basis of assumption is that all women lack confidence, I think you say that instead. |
| 15:20.04 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: looking |
| 15:20.06 | Obelixprime | note the 5.3k mind blast crit :D |
| 15:20.09 | Pkekyo| | nocts: YEAH..? WELL...YOU SUCK :P |
| 15:20.14 | Pkekyo| | *caps |
| 15:20.22 | Ellipsis | wow, Zhinjio...that's really neat looking o.o |
| 15:20.27 | nocts|work | Pkekyo|: Don't be jealous because we rubbed our cocks together. |
| 15:20.32 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: quite well, in fact |
| 15:20.47 | Pkekyo| | nocts|work: wait...what? |
| 15:20.50 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: Quite a bit cleaner than last time. |
| 15:21.20 | nocts|work | Your tooltip can burn in hell. |
| 15:21.43 | nocts|work | You've cut down on a huge amount of redundancy and clutter, well done. |
| 15:21.54 | Ellipsis | he did? |
| 15:21.57 | Ellipsis | what was it like before? |
| 15:21.57 | nocts|work | Oh god yes. |
| 15:22.06 | Obelixprime | Ellipsis - one sec |
| 15:22.09 | nocts|work | I helped him quite a bit yesterday on streamlining some of it as a starting point. |
| 15:22.25 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: he's doing a great job on it isn't he? |
| 15:22.26 | nocts|work | But Ellipsis is right. What about some uniformity on texture bar color? Less differentiation for the eyes to adjust to, and an overall smoother look. |
| 15:22.35 | nocts|work | A good chunk of things now will be design preference. |
| 15:22.47 | Ellipsis | don't get me started :P I could rattle off a million improvements to that UI |
| 15:22.54 | nocts|work | Same. |
| 15:22.56 | nocts|work | BUT |
| 15:22.58 | Obelixprime | go go ellipsis! |
| 15:23.04 | Ellipsis | the action bars have like 6 pieces of text on them |
| 15:23.07 | nocts|work | Why did you keep those raid frames still? |
| 15:23.15 | nocts|work | Thought you were dropping those for decursive to clear up more space? |
| 15:23.22 | Obelixprime | http://colekas.brethren-guild.org/WoWScrnShot_081908_215903.jpg |
| 15:23.23 | Ellipsis | to the point where you have no idea what's going on with the more crowded buttons like SW:D |
| 15:23.55 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: Are those numbers the amount of damage/healing or the number of times till oom? |
| 15:23.57 | Obelixprime | i can remove the macro / bind text easily |
| 15:24.01 | nocts|work | That's a start. |
| 15:24.17 | Obelixprime | dmg healing |
| 15:24.21 | Ellipsis | if you don't need it, don't show it ^-^ |
| 15:24.23 | Obelixprime | which aren't needed |
| 15:24.27 | nocts|work | Drop that. You know there isn't a reason to have it. |
| 15:24.37 | nocts|work | It's nice to see, but in a raid it's going to remain pretty static. |
| 15:24.43 | Ellipsis | you can always check the tooltips if you forgot how much damage your spells do |
| 15:24.46 | nocts|work | ^ |
| 15:25.00 | nocts|work | She'll tear a few more holes into you. I'm slightly busy right now. |
| 15:25.07 | Obelixprime | yay! |
| 15:25.09 | Obelixprime | i like holes |
| 15:25.14 | Ellipsis | who doesn't? |
| 15:25.30 | Ellipsis | now, let's talk unit frames... ;) |
| 15:25.32 | nocts|work | Dam builders. |
| 15:25.34 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan, Josh_Borke, Pneumatus: I have to go, but you can still read this : http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibDebugLog-1.0 |
| 15:25.46 | Ellipsis | do you often forget what level, class, race, and name you are? |
| 15:26.15 | Obelixprime | no, but I like to use pitbull with its common configuration across different toons |
| 15:26.25 | Obelixprime | I suppose I can make the config for this toon without those |
| 15:26.54 | Pkekyo| | < dataphile> so linux isnt video game friendly? bah, can i still watch my mother on daughter porn on it? |
| 15:26.55 | Ellipsis | well, you could at least remove the class from the texts since you already have class coloring to tell you what you are |
| 15:26.56 | nocts|work | But are you ever going to forget your name and level? |
| 15:27.08 | Obelixprime | Level maybe |
| 15:27.14 | Obelixprime | you know wrath is around the corner :P |
| 15:27.21 | Ellipsis | I can see wanting the name/level/xp for alts |
| 15:27.39 | Ellipsis | but does the xp text have to be visible *all* the time? |
| 15:27.54 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 15:27.55 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: thanks |
| 15:27.58 | Ellipsis | maybe just on mouseover? or better yet take it off the unit frames and use an xp bar type addon instead? |
| 15:28.13 | Obelixprime | again, my laziness of making configurations differentiate between main and alts |
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| 15:28.22 | Obelixprime | good point though |
| 15:28.22 | Ellipsis | it doesn't have to be different between main and alts :P |
| 15:28.38 | Ellipsis | even on a leveling alt, I don't *watch* my xp so much as check it every once in a while |
| 15:29.03 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: To be fair, character level is just a c keypres away. |
| 15:29.24 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:29.32 | Ellipsis | or you could cheat and mouseover your unit frame to see the tooltip |
| 15:29.33 | Obelixprime | strangely, I think I often check with C rather than my unitframe when needed |
| 15:29.43 | Obelixprime | but ok ok |
| 15:29.50 | Ellipsis | hey, you wanted holes ;) |
| 15:29.52 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: you and I think alike on UI layout. |
| 15:30.00 | Obelixprime | i can get everything but health and mana off my player unit frame |
| 15:30.08 | Obelixprime | got it |
| 15:30.15 | Obelixprime | next hole |
| 15:30.16 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: I think you might like the artwork I'm doing for my wrath UI, it reminds me of yours now that I think about it :P |
| 15:30.35 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: as nocts mentioned, your tooltip is scary |
| 15:30.55 | Ellipsis | I mean, really, do you need a wall of item drops on every mob you mouse over? (and quite inaccurate ones at that) |
| 15:30.56 | Zhinjio | I'd love to see it |
| 15:31.50 | Pkekyo| | if you clone yourself...and have sex with your clone... is that masturbation or incest? o.O' |
| 15:32.04 | Ellipsis | it's damn hot, is what it is |
| 15:32.06 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 15:32.14 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 15:32.19 | Obelixprime | so get rid of mobinfo altogether? |
| 15:32.28 | Pkekyo| | rofl Ellipsis |
| 15:32.29 | Obelixprime | i can see that most of the item values are innacurate |
| 15:32.40 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: The thing that bugs me most is that you have loot objects on tooltip. |
| 15:32.57 | nocts|work | This bothers me because : You can't view the items, share the link, or similar. It's just a list. |
| 15:33.01 | Obelixprime | right, since their inaccessible |
| 15:33.07 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: yeah, or if you really like having that info see if there's an alternate way to display it (maybe on tooltip with a modifier, or better yet a searchable database) |
| 15:33.08 | nocts|work | I bet that list could be better placed elsewhere for displaying use. |
| 15:33.09 | Obelixprime | they're |
| 15:33.16 | Zhinjio | I love mobinfo |
| 15:33.28 | Zhinjio | but I usually turn off the loot items |
| 15:33.42 | Throngy | it would be nice if there was a way to open the appropriate page of atlasloot for your current target |
| 15:33.47 | Zhinjio | I want to know how many Timbermaw Firbolgs I've killed ever. |
| 15:33.49 | Zhinjio | grins. |
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| 15:34.11 | Pneumatus | >9000 |
| 15:34.11 | Obelixprime | ok |
| 15:34.21 | Obelixprime | i'll look into ways of making mobinfo less intrusive |
| 15:34.24 | Obelixprime | good points |
| 15:34.26 | Obelixprime | keep them coming! |
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| 15:36.28 | Obelixprime | nocts|work - I still like keeping the raid unit frames there _just in case_ i ever have to heal... I don't really want to rework my ui between healing/dmg |
| 15:36.53 | nocts|work | Maybe work on scale issues then, since you only want to spot heal? |
| 15:36.55 | nocts|work | sec, brb |
| 15:38.09 | Ellipsis | glares at nocts for stealing her pocky sticks |
| 15:38.35 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 15:38.49 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 15:39.16 | nocts|work | hugs Ellipsis. |
| 15:39.21 | nocts|work | Do I need to pick up more on the way home? |
| 15:39.52 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 15:40.06 | Obelixprime | Ellipsis - any other suggestions? |
| 15:40.11 | Fisker- | rolls up Ellipsis in a carpet |
| 15:40.12 | Ellipsis | or I could just eat the rest of my chocolate instead :P |
| 15:40.20 | Fisker- | amidoinitrite yet? |
| 15:40.40 | Ellipsis | sec Obelixprime, computer is lagging while it tries to compress a screenshot for Zhinjio :P |
| 15:40.54 | Zhinjio | give it to me raw, baby! |
| 15:40.56 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 15:41.09 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 15:41.11 | Obelixprime | nice |
| 15:41.15 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 15:41.35 | Zhinjio | its the completely innocent things I say that sound the dirtiest. |
| 15:42.44 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: If you're keeping the raid frames for healing, I say drop the mana, drop the names, shrink the sizes. |
| 15:43.33 | nocts|work | You don't need to know who, you already know general raid mana (RaidStatus), and you should only be doing clicks instead of actual "stare at the box because I'm a healer" |
| 15:43.43 | nocts|work | And ditch that Raid (25) |
| 15:43.47 | nocts|work | I'm sure you can count. |
| 15:44.41 | nocts|work | And if you don't give me a good reason about why you kept the alarm clock on the minimap I'm going to rape you with a goat, penis cheese, and a long series of iron-laden dildos. |
| 15:45.12 | Obelixprime | since i have it in lynstats |
| 15:45.15 | Obelixprime | ... |
| 15:45.16 | Obelixprime | good point |
| 15:45.21 | Ellipsis | and I'm going to watch. |
| 15:45.21 | Obelixprime | that'll be gone |
| 15:45.56 | nocts|work | Redundancy Redundancy Redundancy Redundancy Redundancy. |
| 15:46.06 | nocts|work | Wow, O.o That made me sound like Ballmer |
| 15:46.09 | nocts|work | throws a chair. |
| 15:46.18 | Obelixprime | lol |
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| 15:48.57 | nocts|work | Zhinjio: What was that screenshot all about? Forgive the ignorance, my ircID is a bit young. |
| 15:49.30 | Zhinjio | I'm redoing the GUI for AckisRecipeList |
| 15:49.41 | Fisker- | DID SOME SAY PICTARS? |
| 15:49.50 | Zhinjio | and I was showing Ackis the latest progress. |
| 15:50.26 | nocts|work | Nice texturing |
| 15:50.48 | Zhinjio | Danke Schoen |
| 15:51.22 | Fisker- | your texturing work sucks! |
| 15:51.31 | Zhinjio | I love you too, Fisker- |
| 15:51.32 | Fisker- | Yeah, now i really got you confused? |
| 15:51.37 | Fisker- | Now you don't know what to trust |
| 15:51.39 | Fisker- | hoohoh |
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| 15:53.46 | Fisker- | why so serious Zhinjio? |
| 15:54.04 | nocts|work | Let's put a smile on that face. |
| 15:55.50 | Zhinjio | hmm? |
| 15:55.52 | Zhinjio | nevah |
| 15:56.06 | nocts|work | licks Zhinjio |
| 15:57.32 | Zhinjio | YIKES! |
| 15:57.34 | Zhinjio | oh, hi. |
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| 16:00.38 | harl | why do pets have no sex anymore? |
| 16:00.51 | nocts|work | lol |
| 16:01.29 | Fisker- | yeah pets should have sex |
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| 16:02.14 | fewyn | 11:58:15 Fewyn has earned the achievement [Explore Zul'Drak]! |
| 16:02.15 | fewyn | ! |
| 16:02.39 | fewyn | needs more achievements |
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| 16:04.06 | harl | Fisker-: they do. definitely. *nod* |
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| 16:05.47 | harl | though, i'm not allowed to tell you how i became to know that. |
| 16:06.05 | Ellipsis | do not want to know. |
| 16:07.07 | Fisker- | That bear you had sex with... |
| 16:07.09 | Fisker- | that was actually me |
| 16:07.21 | harl | ;) |
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| 16:09.44 | AckisWork | Fisker-: if you're having sex with a druid is it bestiality? what about a mermaid? |
| 16:10.20 | ckknight | Ackis: for the mermaid, is the top-half fish or bottom-half? |
| 16:10.25 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I suck...but where is philadelphia? :p |
| 16:10.34 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: Pennsylvania |
| 16:10.55 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: which is where? eastern? |
| 16:11.01 | ckknight | northeast US |
| 16:11.10 | ckknight | part of New England |
| 16:11.18 | Pkekyo| | sweet |
| 16:11.30 | Pkekyo| | sure beats Ontario :p |
| 16:12.19 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81043 10Yatba/ (Debug.lua Yatba.lua Yatba.toc embeds.xml libs/): Yatba: plugged in LibDebugLog-1.0. |
| 16:12.39 | ckknight | not so sure about that, Pkekyo| |
| 16:12.49 | ckknight | the city of brotherly love is far from it, statistically |
| 16:14.57 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: well, atleast the parcel has moved further east...that's a good thing |
| 16:15.28 | harl | :| |
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| 16:17.21 | Pkekyo| | so...philly ftw ^^ |
| 16:17.53 | ducer | does anyone here develop some WoW server ? |
| 16:18.21 | Zhinjio | Ashtongue Deathsworn is a BC rep faction, right? |
| 16:18.22 | Pkekyo| | eh? how'd you get that idea? |
| 16:18.27 | Pkekyo| | yes Zhinjio |
| 16:18.28 | Ellipsis | yes Zhinjio, black temple |
| 16:18.32 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 16:19.27 | ducer | or maybe you know about some opensource client-side emulator of WoW |
| 16:19.45 | erikh | it's called wine. :) |
| 16:20.29 | Pkekyo| | ducer: what exactly are you trying to achieve? |
| 16:20.32 | ducer | i'm not talking about wine |
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| 16:21.15 | Zhinjio | and "Scale of the Sands" is also BC, right? |
| 16:21.27 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 16:21.33 | ducer | i need some client to actually check how it authenticates |
| 16:21.42 | Josh_Borke | ducer: it's illegal and won't be discussed here |
| 16:21.45 | ducer | as i know WoW authentication is based on SHA-1 |
| 16:21.51 | ducer | what's illegal ? |
| 16:21.52 | Ellipsis | ducer: for what? sounds like tos-breaking material to me |
| 16:22.03 | Josh_Borke | s/illegal/against teh TOS |
| 16:22.28 | ducer | well, if there are opensource servers someone has to check if logonserver actually works |
| 16:22.33 | nocts|work | We know how it works. |
| 16:22.35 | nocts|work | What's up? |
| 16:22.49 | Josh_Borke | open source servers are against the tos |
| 16:22.57 | vithos | Xinhuan, BankItems-24002\BankItems.lua:4022: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 16:22.59 | Josh_Borke | or maybe it's teh EULA |
| 16:23.01 | ducer | before i will fire up ida pro i just want to find out if there is any opensource client |
| 16:23.07 | Ellipsis | as is packet sniffing to analyze the traffic |
| 16:23.14 | Josh_Borke | either way, it is against blizzard policies |
| 16:23.22 | Josh_Borke | therefore it will more than likeely not be allowed here |
| 16:23.25 | nocts|work | sec, phonecall |
| 16:23.27 | ducer | ok |
| 16:23.28 | Xinhuan | hmm ok |
| 16:23.34 | Xinhuan | i knew something would break |
| 16:24.23 | Pkekyo| | packet sniffing? |
| 16:24.29 | Pkekyo| | is that in any way similar to panty sniffing? |
| 16:24.43 | harl | no. |
| 16:24.46 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:24.47 | AckisWork | wtf |
| 16:24.48 | vithos | Xinhuan, that was just on login btw. |
| 16:25.00 | Obelixprime | Pkekyo| those are my panties! |
| 16:25.06 | Obelixprime | I sniffed them first |
| 16:25.12 | Pkekyo| | Obelixprime: no panties here, you have been misinformed |
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| 16:25.52 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 16:26.58 | Xinhuan | lets see if that fix works vithos |
| 16:27.07 | CIA-47 | 03xinhuan * r81044 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix error on login for people with bagparent style set to 1 (with bankitems frame) instead of 2 (with blizzard bags). |
| 16:27.34 | nocts|work | And against blizzard policies or not, I don't think that talk is banned here. |
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| 16:27.45 | nocts|work | People are breaking it left and right already, no reason to not tell someone how to packet sniff. |
| 16:28.21 | nevcairiel | If its in the context of decoding any wow protocol, its banned here. |
| 16:29.10 | nocts|work | O.o |
| 16:29.20 | nocts|work | nevcairiel: With all due respect, can I at least ask why? |
| 16:29.51 | AckisWork | that's banned here also nocts|work |
| 16:30.06 | Ellipsis | also asking about asking about asking is banned |
| 16:30.11 | nevcairiel | We don't want people discussing stuff thats against the ToS/ToU/EULA, thats all |
| 16:30.19 | nevcairiel | anyone who does and doesnt stop when asked to, will get banned |
| 16:30.30 | nocts|work | Okay... well. Fair enough. Anyone that's ever curious about information and knowledge has every right to /msg me. More than happy to help. |
| 16:30.34 | Fisker- | ah nevcairiel |
| 16:30.52 | Fisker- | you mean how as decoding stuff like the MD5 hashes for map strings etc, is also technically against the ToS? |
| 16:31.03 | Fisker- | good job on consistency there |
| 16:32.58 | nocts|work | Either way, Fisker-, I'll follow the room rules. And still encourage people to just /msg me instead. |
| 16:33.12 | CIA-47 | 03xinhuan * r81045 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix 2 more errors related to the config from creating the frames LoD. |
| 16:33.16 | Xinhuan | vithos: ^ |
| 16:33.47 | vithos | Xinhuan, i'll try it as soon as the zip script runs |
| 16:34.17 | nevcairiel | I don't remember seeing anyone starting a discussion about decoding the map data *shrug* Its still a big difference if you want to collect data for your addon, or break the auth encryption to write a open-source server |
| 16:34.40 | Fisker- | not in your context |
| 16:34.56 | Fisker- | which is what i'm pointing out |
| 16:35.17 | nocts|work | Something is either against the ToS or not against the ToS. |
| 16:35.52 | Xinhuan | not everything is black and white |
| 16:36.07 | Fisker- | rules are |
| 16:36.32 | nocts|work | A ToS certainly is, unless we're going to include what blizzard generally ignores about the ToS and what they are adamant about. |
| 16:36.33 | nevcairiel | They are black and white on paper, but grey when used |
| 16:37.31 | nevcairiel | And any form of 3rd party server/client or whatever is definately black for ban |
| 16:37.31 | Fisker- | just like the whole wotlk alpha BS |
| 16:37.49 | nocts|work | nevcairiel: To be fair... he didn't say he was building anything. |
| 16:38.02 | nevcairiel | He wanted information about it, i dont care what for |
| 16:38.06 | nocts|work | O.o |
| 16:38.17 | nocts|work | And as for black and white: How do you think the ToS handles us datamining the cache files? |
| 16:38.32 | Fisker- | apparently that is alright! |
| 16:38.37 | Tornhoof | technically you're not even allowed to datamine the armory |
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| 16:38.38 | nevcairiel | 3rd Party servers is a topic that will never be tolerated here, in what form ever |
| 16:38.45 | Fisker- | that may be |
| 16:38.47 | nocts|work | nevcairiel: That's fine. I'll respect that. |
| 16:38.59 | Fisker- | But you are saying the topic that won't be tolerated is breaking the ToS/EULA |
| 16:39.01 | nocts|work | But he didn't mention 3rd party servers. |
| 16:39.07 | Fisker- | but a lot of addons already do break the ToS/EULA |
| 16:39.13 | Fisker- | A lot of people doing stuff here already break it |
| 16:39.42 | nocts|work | wowhead's also illegal, according to the ToS. Pilfering through the cache files is hardly different than packet sniffing from a ToS point of view. |
| 16:40.05 | Tornhoof | packet snffing isn't illegal either |
| 16:40.09 | nocts|work | ^ |
| 16:40.19 | nocts|work | Case counter-proven in point. |
| 16:40.26 | Fisker- | is according to the ToS though |
| 16:40.31 | Ellipsis | the ToS specifically states that packet sniffing is not allowed :) |
| 16:40.32 | Tornhoof | afaik not |
| 16:40.35 | Xinhuan | its illegal if you agreed to a ToS contract not to do it |
| 16:40.36 | nevcairiel | Illegal or not, the op currently paying attention decides anyway |
| 16:40.38 | AckisWork | ToS isn't law which I think the point that was :P |
| 16:40.46 | Tornhoof | technically every router does packet sniffing ;) |
| 16:40.52 | nocts|work | Correct. |
| 16:41.03 | Fisker- | AckisWork legality isn't a exclusively a matter of law |
| 16:41.06 | Ellipsis | it's one of those things they can't/don't enforce, but they at least have the paper to point to and say "you did agree not to..." |
| 16:41.13 | nocts|work | nevcairiel: And again, I'll respect your call. Just seems inconsistent. |
| 16:41.22 | Tornhoof | as every virus scanner does disassemble wow memory and hook functions ;) |
| 16:41.41 | AckisWork | still wants to see a ToS hold up in court |
| 16:41.41 | Tornhoof | it's hard to draw a clear line in that field of business |
| 16:41.48 | Tornhoof | it does not |
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| 16:41.56 | Tornhoof | but you can't do shit about it |
| 16:42.00 | Tornhoof | since you don't own your char |
| 16:42.03 | Xinhuan | Warden |
| 16:42.04 | nocts|work | The EULA does though, allowing them to cancel you for anything, even a ToS violation. |
| 16:42.21 | Tornhoof | no the eula isn't legal in many countries |
| 16:42.29 | nocts|work | ^ |
| 16:42.41 | nevcairiel | nocts|work: besides, quote from that guy earlier "does anyone here develop some WoW server ?" .. he did mention those =P |
| 16:42.44 | nocts|work | Fair enough. USA though the ToS is valid only because they can cancel with bias according to EULA |
| 16:42.57 | Josh_Borke | bl0ah blah blah |
| 16:42.58 | nocts|work | nevcairiel: If I was looking to understand packet data I'd ask someone who develops, too. |
| 16:43.02 | Tornhoof | afaik he wanted some opensource client |
| 16:43.06 | Tornhoof | for whatever reason |
| 16:43.15 | nocts|work | And afaik, he, like many other sites, wanted to understand the process. |
| 16:43.23 | Tornhoof | which is perfectly well documented |
| 16:43.25 | nocts|work | The packet data for loginserver and characterserver is public. |
| 16:43.42 | Tornhoof | authentication is using an open source password sharing protocol |
| 16:43.54 | Josh_Borke | yes, well, this isn't the correct place to ask for it |
| 16:43.58 | Tornhoof | easier for blizzard and more secure this way ;) |
| 16:44.17 | nocts|work | Josh_Borke: That I can agree with, and thus redirect questions of such sorts to /msg with me. |
| 16:44.41 | Josh_Borke | nocts|work: and i'm all for that :-) |
| 16:45.15 | nocts|work | but to be fair ;) wowhead and anything else non wowace related doesn't belong here. |
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| 16:46.42 | Josh_Borke | not that i can recall talk about wowhead here recently ;-P |
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| 16:48.01 | Obelixprime | and soon wowace won't even exist! |
| 16:48.05 | Obelixprime | so what should we discuss in here? |
| 16:48.13 | Obelixprime | I nominate penguins and pandas |
| 16:48.27 | Josh_Borke | nothing, we should just eliminate the channel altogether |
| 16:48.28 | Pkekyo| | I second the motion! |
| 16:49.02 | Pkekyo| | penguins and pandas ftw |
| 16:49.06 | AckisWork | wowace will still exist |
| 16:49.22 | Obelixprime | just not in a public facing manner |
| 16:49.32 | Tornhoof | aorace maybe? |
| 16:49.46 | Ellipsis | the community side of it will exist |
| 16:49.50 | Tornhoof | or whatever the proper short name for warhammer is |
| 16:50.06 | AckisWork | WAR |
| 16:51.22 | nocts|work | Just like the windows ME community still exists, stubbornly against the tides of evolution and common sense. |
| 16:51.35 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:51.37 | AckisWork | people use ME? |
| 16:51.47 | nocts|work | Of course, you're a doormat Ackis. |
| 16:51.47 | Funkeh` | ME is the shizzle |
| 16:51.54 | nocts|work | Oh, you meant the OS? |
| 16:51.55 | jy__ | coldarra shutdown ! |
| 16:51.56 | Tornhoof | recently someone asked if he could install windows 98 on a core2 quad |
| 16:51.57 | nocts|work | Yeah, from time to time. |
| 16:51.58 | fewyn | sbeta shutdown! |
| 16:51.59 | smcn | i doubt anyone using window ME is a part of any sort of community, it's more likely someone's misfortune that they bought a computer pre-installed with ME and don't know any better |
| 16:52.01 | fewyn | patch time! |
| 16:52.09 | nocts|work | smcn: Why so serious? |
| 16:52.22 | smcn | lul u mad |
| 16:52.23 | smcn | ;P |
| 16:52.39 | AckisWork | why so funky, Funkeh`? |
| 16:52.41 | Obelixprime | wehn I got ME back in 99 or whatever I thought it was good for like 3 months |
| 16:52.51 | nocts|work | slaps smcn with an RFC compliant trout |
| 16:52.56 | nevcairiel | I used it for a week |
| 16:52.57 | nevcairiel | 2 tops |
| 16:53.00 | nevcairiel | then i replaced it again |
| 16:53.05 | Tornhoof | dunno, nt guy since 3.5 |
| 16:53.06 | nevcairiel | it was total fail |
| 16:53.07 | Funkeh` | Never used it |
| 16:53.12 | Funkeh` | was a 98SE user |
| 16:53.12 | AckisWork | I used it |
| 16:53.21 | AckisWork | I upgraded from 98SE to ME |
| 16:53.44 | Funkeh` | "upgrade" |
| 16:54.01 | Obelixprime | I thought it was ok |
| 16:54.05 | AckisWork | I know eh? |
| 16:54.12 | AckisWork | it was ok, but 98SE was better |
| 16:54.19 | Obelixprime | mind you I was like 14 at the time and didn't know better |
| 16:54.20 | nocts|work | ^ |
| 16:54.32 | nocts|work | Linux/BSD or gtfo, imo. |
| 16:54.41 | nocts|work | puts on emergency flame suit. |
| 16:54.43 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 16:54.48 | Obelixprime | Oh, I tried linux |
| 16:54.56 | Obelixprime | cept there wasn't an ubuntu around to make it play nice |
| 16:55.02 | nocts|work | -.- |
| 16:55.08 | Tornhoof | knoppix ;) |
| 16:55.09 | Obelixprime | I ran slackware |
| 16:55.22 | nocts|work | Slack used to be one of the most amazing distros known to alien kind. |
| 16:55.32 | nocts|work | And then with his sickness it started slacking quite a bit. No pun intended. |
| 16:55.44 | Obelixprime | Got through about 12 hours of using it before giving up due to random issues with X11 and what not |
| 16:55.47 | nocts|work | Moved from a long time slack user to arclinux. |
| 16:56.14 | Leissi | stop slacking |
| 16:56.21 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: To be fair, the slackware mantra "Always ask a slackware user." |
| 16:56.43 | nocts|work | It's a general rule that they tinker and toy far more often than others and end up with a better general knowledge of the linux base. |
| 16:56.43 | Zhinjio | I still use slack |
| 16:56.44 | Obelixprime | yeah, didn't know many back then and even those who i did ask weren't always helpful lo |
| 16:56.46 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 16:56.57 | nocts|work | Zhinjio: left at 9.0 release when 10.0 started having issues |
| 16:57.20 | Obelixprime | funny though, I remember having issues looking for files |
| 16:57.28 | Obelixprime | and i remember using a command that required a databa se |
| 16:57.32 | Obelixprime | and it had to be maintained |
| 16:57.47 | Obelixprime | I use linux/solaris a lot at work now and I can find stuff pretty easily using find/grep |
| 16:58.23 | Obelixprime | I want to switch to linux now however there's now a ton of software that I bought that are windows only |
| 16:58.42 | Obelixprime | so the desire to switch is meted by dependencies on windows |
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| 17:02.55 | nocts|work | Obelixprime: What software? |
| 17:03.15 | nocts|work | Wait, this isn't a wowace topic. Please /msg me |
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| 17:03.38 | nocts|work | Blizzard banned a huge chunk of linux users a year agoish, probably best not to discuss illegal activities here. |
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| 17:04.32 | nevcairiel | You guys are stupid |
| 17:04.38 | KriLL3 | nocts|work: way to take the high road |
| 17:04.39 | nevcairiel | noone ever said you cannot discuss non-wow topics |
| 17:04.48 | jy__ | gentoo > slackware btw |
| 17:05.18 | nevcairiel | Just not 3rd party clients/servers, exploits, hacks, or whatever fits that category of evil =P |
| 17:06.06 | AckisWork | www.ackisprivateservers.com !!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 17:06.29 | Antiarc | New patch going up |
| 17:06.38 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336663776&sid=2000 |
| 17:06.43 | nevcairiel | hopefully they implement the druid changes |
| 17:06.47 | AckisWork | you know what was annoying... I spent an hour debugging something with ARL and it turned out that the user was on a private server |
| 17:06.56 | jy__ | thanks Antiarc :) |
| 17:07.07 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: they didnt mention a new build like all the other weeks, qq |
| 17:07.14 | Antiarc | :( |
| 17:07.21 | Antiarc | Maybe it's early and someone hasn't had coffee |
| 17:07.23 | Antiarc | and they forgot |
| 17:07.38 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:07.40 | nevcairiel | we'll see |
| 17:07.44 | nevcairiel | i hope for a new build though |
| 17:08.23 | Antiarc | I'm really hoping for a new build |
| 17:08.36 | Antiarc | Because my warrior in blues is destroying my rogue in T6 in terms of fun and viability |
| 17:09.24 | Odlaw | yar.. nerf warriors. |
| 17:09.30 | Aeyan | I'm still seeing Hunger For Blood at the top of the Assassination tree, so clearly they haven't looked at rogues again since the first pass =P |
| 17:09.48 | Antiarc | Rogues haven't been touched since early alpha |
| 17:09.52 | Antiarc | Like |
| 17:09.54 | nocts|work | jy__: gentoo > slackware if GetEmployed(false); |
| 17:09.58 | Antiarc | We don't get new ranks of most of our skills |
| 17:10.08 | Antiarc | Almost all our deep talents are bugged or NYI |
| 17:10.10 | dodga | Druid changes? |
| 17:10.11 | Antiarc | No new poisons |
| 17:10.17 | dodga | Like removing the class at last? :> |
| 17:10.43 | nocts|work | lol |
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| 17:11.10 | Fisker- | 25% chance to miss should be 25% chance to poison yourself Antiarc |
| 17:11.18 | Fisker- | except hit rating doesn't work |
| 17:11.19 | nocts|work | ^ this |
| 17:11.36 | Antiarc | Fisker-: Enjoy Devious Poisons |
| 17:11.40 | Antiarc | I know I will |
| 17:11.49 | Fisker- | what does it do? |
| 17:11.58 | Aeyan | Double poison |
| 17:12.08 | Fisker- | i won't enjoy that all |
| 17:12.09 | Antiarc | No |
| 17:12.09 | Aeyan | One of the many gems in the assassination tree =\ |
| 17:12.22 | Antiarc | It makes it so that when someone heals or cleanses a target with your poisons on them |
| 17:12.25 | Antiarc | The healer gets those poisons |
| 17:12.27 | Aeyan | Oh, right |
| 17:12.33 | Fisker- | I need a talent that goes "Improves your damage and increases your chance to poison yourself by 20/40/60/80/100%" |
| 17:12.36 | Aeyan | I was thinking of deadly brew |
| 17:12.38 | Antiarc | Plus the deadly brew |
| 17:12.48 | Antiarc | Which lets me put crip/mind nub/wound on a target at once |
| 17:12.51 | Antiarc | So all three |
| 17:12.54 | Antiarc | Then a healer heals them |
| 17:12.56 | Antiarc | And gets the poisons |
| 17:12.59 | Antiarc | Hello target swap |
| 17:13.00 | Antiarc | KaBOOM! |
| 17:13.21 | Fisker- | hallo divine shield + hearthstone |
| 17:13.43 | Fisker- | this will be most effective in arenas |
| 17:14.11 | Antiarc | Hearth doesn't work in the arenas |
| 17:14.20 | Fisker- | i know |
| 17:14.22 | Antiarc | We've tried to have our pally bubble+hearth the other team when we were winning |
| 17:14.25 | Antiarc | It failed :( |
| 17:14.36 | Fisker- | because of the cooldown i believe |
| 17:14.44 | Fisker- | perhaps astral recall works |
| 17:14.46 | Antiarc | Or it's just an excluded item |
| 17:14.48 | Antiarc | Who knows |
| 17:15.10 | Fisker- | well if astral recall works we can use scrolls of recall instead :D |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker- | or wait |
| 17:15.18 | Fisker- | items don't work in arenas either |
| 17:15.19 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:15.37 | nocts|work | nature's swiftness should work on AR. |
| 17:16.18 | Fisker- | it did at some point i believe |
| 17:16.27 | Fisker- | if you had enough spellhaste to make <10 sec cast |
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| 17:19.44 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81046 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.lua CastYeller.toc embeds.xml libs/): CastYeller: plugged in LibDebugLog-1.0. |
| 17:19.45 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81047 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: typo. |
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| 17:24.33 | Pneumatus | umm |
| 17:24.46 | Pneumatus | i just got elixir master procs making Elixir of Lions Strength |
| 17:24.54 | Pneumatus | which are like a level 0 alch elixir |
| 17:25.17 | AckisWork | yes |
| 17:25.36 | Pneumatus | i thought you only got procs from outlands++ patterns |
| 17:26.44 | AckisWork | nope |
| 17:26.47 | AckisWork | only discoveries |
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| 17:30.13 | Elmoe_ | Does the svn repo have anonymous access just to checkout and not to commit? |
| 17:30.35 | Antiarc | yes |
| 17:32.43 | Elmoe_ | is there a special anonymous username/password to use? |
| 17:33.38 | Pneumatus | you can checkout from svn.wowace.com without giving credentials |
| 17:34.28 | Elmoe_ | do I need to pass some special option to svn? svn co http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Recount2 prompts me for a username/password |
| 17:35.09 | sb | svn. not dev. |
| 17:35.17 | Elmoe_ | ah duh thanks |
| 17:35.17 | Pneumatus | dev requires auth, svn doesnt |
| 17:36.24 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r81048 10LibDebugLog-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:36.24 | CIA-47 | LibDebugLog-1.0: |
| 17:36.24 | CIA-47 | - fixed NewBroker to match documented API, |
| 17:36.24 | CIA-47 | - added :GetBrokerName(broker). |
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| 17:38.18 | Fisker- | q http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336793788&sid=2003#7 <-aww seems to be no patch then >:E |
| 17:38.30 | dodga | http://www.maniacworld.com/dont-show-off-before-a-fight.html ehehehe so true :D |
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| 17:48.43 | Pkekyo| | 7msg nickserv identify cookies913 |
| 17:49.10 | VonhintenHOME` | nicely done |
| 17:49.26 | Pkekyo| | oh fucksake |
| 17:49.40 | dodga | 913? my we are greedy aren't we :o |
| 17:49.41 | Stanzilla | faker :P |
| 17:49.54 | dodga | Though bonus points for cookies |
| 17:50.01 | Pkekyo| | cookies > all |
| 17:50.07 | Pkekyo| | all passwords should incorporate cookies... |
| 17:50.07 | dodga | Almost |
| 17:50.11 | dodga | Boobies > all :> |
| 17:50.55 | Pkekyo| | cookieboobies > all |
| 17:50.57 | Pkekyo| | o.O' |
| 17:51.01 | dodga | Hmmm |
| 17:51.14 | dodga | Interesting |
| 17:51.26 | Pkekyo| | if you only knew... |
| 17:51.53 | dodga | Should I be glad I don't? |
| 17:51.55 | harl | what's the last stable revision of Cellular? |
| 17:52.42 | Pkekyo| | Nokia 3210 |
| 17:52.56 | Kaelten | iPhone 2.0.2? |
| 17:53.07 | harl | -.- |
| 17:53.15 | Tornhoof | google android? |
| 17:53.34 | Pkekyo| | Kaelten: nowai |
| 17:53.36 | harl | great. i'll look myself.. |
| 17:55.18 | harl | guess it's 74346 |
| 17:55.48 | Elmoe_ | Is there any Ace convenience library that dumps/loads Lua tables to/from a file? |
| 17:57.46 | Kaelten | Elmoe_: no, thats not something you can do in WoW |
| 17:57.53 | dodga | can't you just make the table a savedvariable? |
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| 17:58.05 | dodga | and it therefore gets automagically loaded/saved? |
| 17:58.21 | Elmoe_ | Kaelten: oh really? sorry just looking in to this |
| 17:58.41 | Kaelten | yep, you can set a variable as a saved variable in your TOC. |
| 17:58.43 | Elmoe_ | Kaelten: is there a place where I can see what is restrict in wow lua? |
| 17:58.56 | Kaelten | I don't know if anyone's ever set out a full list |
| 17:58.59 | Elmoe_ | right and you can manipulate the saved variable stuff using the AceDB-3.0 lib |
| 17:59.03 | Kaelten | right |
| 17:59.07 | Elmoe_ | cool thanks |
| 17:59.07 | nocts|work | Can't find a linux guide for installing sun++ |
| 17:59.12 | Kaelten | well AceDB works on any table realyl |
| 17:59.20 | nocts|work | It can't be as simple as ./configure && make && make install |
| 17:59.20 | Elmoe_ | nocts|work: sun++? |
| 17:59.28 | nocts|work | Elmoe_: It's in the svn tree |
| 17:59.39 | nocts|work | Looking to get some scripts running since a default install doesn't seem to have them. |
| 17:59.45 | Kaelten | but by setting the variable it gets dumped to file for you. |
| 18:00.01 | nocts|work | Er... |
| 18:00.05 | nocts|work | Okay... backing out of the wrong channel. |
| 18:00.13 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 18:00.14 | dodga | hm registersaved... is no longer available? |
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| 18:00.31 | Kaelten | dodga: correct RegisterForSave is now a blizz only function |
| 18:00.59 | dodga | I see |
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| 18:03.24 | Obelixprime | did you guys hear about the sk-gaming kidnapping a 16 year old american girl? |
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| 18:04.07 | NivFreak | huh? |
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| 18:06.04 | Obelixprime | apparently the co-gm of sk-gaming was e-dating a 16 year old girl who was in DnT and about 3 months ago she was registered as a missing person or something |
| 18:06.14 | Obelixprime | lemme try and see if i can find the links |
| 18:06.21 | NivFreak | I don't really care |
| 18:06.23 | NivFreak | it's alright |
| 18:07.01 | dodga | I care for eDrama! |
| 18:08.02 | qwesto | http://kotaku.com/5012489/world-of-warcraft-gamer-arrested-for-kidnapping-underage-player |
| 18:08.22 | Obelixprime | the 16 year old girls sk gaming profile |
| 18:08.23 | Obelixprime | http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/Narilka |
| 18:08.38 | ckknight | ugh, qwesto |
| 18:09.05 | Obelixprime | and the missing person's page |
| 18:09.06 | Obelixprime | http://www.criminaljustice.state.ny.us/missing/info/13281.htm |
| 18:09.15 | NivFreak | I saw that article sadly |
| 18:09.20 | NivFreak | had no idea who it was |
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| 18:10.10 | Obelixprime | that's not the article i'm refering to |
| 18:11.41 | qwesto | hmm, seems not, the article I found had a 14 year old girl |
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| 18:20.57 | falconindy | anyone familiar with apache configs? I've got a server with php that won't serve index.php as a document root, even though i have it set in the directive |
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| 18:22.01 | falconindy | prompts me to download a filetype application/x-httpd-php rather than give me the file, but it has no problems parsing if i specfiy the file explicitly |
| 18:22.31 | nevcairiel | thats weird |
| 18:22.52 | dodga | error log says what? |
| 18:23.09 | falconindy | says nuffink |
| 18:23.23 | falconindy | it's not an error, as the server sees it... the mime-type is setup and everything |
| 18:23.25 | Megalon | and if you dl, do you get the source or is the php parsed? |
| 18:23.33 | falconindy | i get source |
| 18:24.04 | dodga | lemme test that :o |
| 18:24.07 | falconindy | not sure if its my browser doing it, but the name of the file i DL isn't even index.php |
| 18:25.28 | falconindy | dodga: server is internal. not giving out my IP =P |
| 18:26.28 | dodga | works fine here |
| 18:26.36 | dodga | No I meant I'll test it on my server :D |
| 18:26.45 | falconindy | oh, carry on then |
| 18:26.57 | falconindy | yeah this is just something im reinstalling after i blew up my last server |
| 18:27.05 | falconindy | had everything working fine as a full LAMP setup |
| 18:27.13 | falconindy | well, minus the L |
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| 18:27.44 | dodga | Well I just did <VirtualHost ...> and set DocumentRoot to the absolute path to the file |
| 18:28.04 | Adirelle | falconindy: any case issue ? |
| 18:28.21 | falconindy | its all lower case |
| 18:28.27 | dodga | Funny though Apache can't find the DocumentRoot when restarting but can serve it when browsing :D |
| 18:28.38 | erikh | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 18:28.44 | erikh | you can pay me in game cards |
| 18:28.51 | Industrial | FUCk this is driving me crazy |
| 18:29.02 | Industrial | I set my irc client to highlight on indy |
| 18:29.06 | falconindy | erikh: that type is already defined in mime.types and my conf file points to it |
| 18:29.09 | erikh | oh yeah, be sure to LoadModule php_module /full/path/to/mod_php.so |
| 18:29.09 | Industrial | and now theres someone named falconindy :< |
| 18:29.15 | erikh | falconindy: that's just a mime type |
| 18:29.20 | erikh | AddType registers a handler |
| 18:29.41 | erikh | which executes your PHP script |
| 18:29.42 | falconindy | "AddType allows you to add to or override the MIME configuration" |
| 18:29.42 | Industrial | (aso, /join #php) |
| 18:29.42 | Adirelle | erikh: doesn't the mod_php register the handler itself ? |
| 18:29.54 | Adirelle | erikh: nvm |
| 18:29.55 | erikh | Adirelle: does it now? I don't know. |
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| 18:30.36 | falconindy | industrial: see, now that's actually a good idea |
| 18:30.37 | Adirelle | erikh: in fact, it shouldn't to let the admin choose what he wants |
| 18:31.27 | erikh | i haven't configured it in years, I just keep tossing around the same configs and scripts I built 6-7 years ago. |
| 18:31.43 | erikh | and I'm more of a mod_perl person.. I avoid PHP like the plague |
| 18:32.22 | falconindy | perl and php are subpar compared to ruby... but i dont feel like learning yet another language |
| 18:33.24 | Megalon | i codez ma pages in assemblerz! |
| 18:33.42 | falconindy | oh pain... the document root serves a php page just fine in the root,but not in a sub directory... i think im onto something |
| 18:44.42 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=knlAWnGYhyA&fmt=18 <-lol |
| 18:44.53 | Stanzilla | installs IE 8 Beta 2 |
| 18:45.14 | nocts|work | Let me know how that goes |
| 18:46.23 | Fisker- | Stanzilla LINK LINK LINK |
| 18:46.24 | Fisker- | NOW |
| 18:46.25 | Fisker- | NAU |
| 18:46.31 | Fisker- | i'm killing you |
| 18:46.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&freetext=Internet+Explorer+8+Beta&sortCriteria=date ^^ |
| 18:46.59 | Fisker- | i love you |
| 18:47.36 | Stanzilla | restart \o/ |
| 18:47.59 | Fisker- | beta 1 kinda memory leaky |
| 18:48.02 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni_rAamVP2s |
| 18:48.05 | Fisker- | looking forward to beta 2 :P |
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| 18:51.48 | Tornhoof | heh redub that with macro assembler and i like it ck ;) |
| 18:52.18 | Silviu- | Sorry, we couldn't find any pages containing downloads thankyou aspx familyId 87809432 919c 44c0 ab3e 94c5b0ed03d6 displayLang en. |
| 18:52.19 | Silviu- | lol |
| 18:52.24 | Silviu- | for vista 64 |
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| 18:59.07 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 18:59.09 | Stanzilla | it's really cool |
| 19:00.39 | dodga | you can still type? I thought your PC would have blown up until now :> |
| 19:01.10 | AckisWork | no those are macs |
| 19:01.24 | dodga | Mine didn't blow up yet |
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| 19:05.22 | Fisker- | better already Stanzilla >:3 |
| 19:05.34 | Stanzilla | it looks awesome |
| 19:05.35 | Stanzilla | and is fast |
| 19:06.54 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:07.24 | Tentacled | Hmm. Is there any way to tap into the tracking data..? Not exactly to get coords of detected objects, as sooner Hell freezes over than Blizzard allows that, I reckon, but whether there IS any detected object? |
| 19:07.41 | Fisker- | pretty awesome address bar |
| 19:11.20 | Fisker- | OMG Stanzilla |
| 19:11.21 | Fisker- | AWESOME |
| 19:11.28 | Fisker- | you have grouped tabs now |
| 19:11.40 | Fisker- | so if you open a tab from a tab then that tab is associated with the parent tab |
| 19:11.41 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:11.45 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:14.35 | nocts|work | Firefox < IE8b2 < Opera < lynx < telnet 80 |
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| 19:18.17 | Obelixprime | where's links in that hierarchy? |
| 19:18.26 | dodga | Fisker-: Say that fast three times :P |
| 19:20.15 | nocts|work | links can == lynx in that case. |
| 19:20.25 | nocts|work | elinks and elinks2 can be slightly above. |
| 19:20.42 | nocts|work | imo smokesignals.tgz is the way to go/. |
| 19:26.10 | Lordrack | hi guys |
| 19:26.17 | nocts|work | Hey Lordrack |
| 19:26.26 | Lordrack | whats up? |
| 19:26.28 | Lordrack | :D |
| 19:26.41 | nocts|work | Compiling. You? |
| 19:26.56 | Lordrack | thinking about a addon... |
| 19:26.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: it passes Acid2 |
| 19:26.59 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 19:27.04 | Lordrack | like a rearview mirror |
| 19:28.02 | Obelixprime | Rearview mirror go! |
| 19:28.41 | Lordrack | lol |
| 19:29.04 | Lordrack | It's possible to create an addon that simulates an rearview mirror? |
| 19:29.37 | Lordrack | other question: It's against the blizzard rules? |
| 19:30.07 | nocts|work | You're basically asking for a render of the character at another angle without adjusting the current camera angle? |
| 19:30.30 | Lordrack | humm |
| 19:30.34 | Lordrack | you right |
| 19:31.00 | nocts|work | I don't know if you can control cameras for different rendering areas at the same time. |
| 19:31.30 | nocts|work | I don't even know if you can have two rendering areas at the same time. |
| 19:31.47 | nocts|work | But I do know that you can use a camera control to flip your current view 180 degrees at any given time |
| 19:32.17 | Obelixprime | When I first started playing, I thought fraps was this application that allowed you to detach the camera and go anywhere with it |
| 19:32.57 | nocts|work | lol |
| 19:33.14 | Lordrack | |
| 19:33.14 | Lordrack | Imagine using the viewport with two monitors. |
| 19:34.30 | nocts|work | You'd have to spawn a second camera. |
| 19:34.46 | Lordrack | The second monitor would have a rearview mirror instead on a black background. |
| 19:34.59 | ckknight | btw, vote on http://www.curseforge.com/polls/java-script-use-on-curse-forge/, since it affects you all |
| 19:35.55 | Lordrack | Obelixprime, matrix fraps? |
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| 19:37.13 | Obelixprime | hmm? |
| 19:37.50 | Lordrack | Obelixprime, the fraps application that allowed you to detach the camera. |
| 19:38.44 | Obelixprime | oh |
| 19:38.51 | Obelixprime | there is an application that allows you to do that? |
| 19:39.11 | Obelixprime | from my experience with fraps it just records what you see, without modifying how you control the game |
| 19:39.46 | Lordrack | wait a min |
| 19:40.30 | nocts|work | Fraps is a recorder of the directX or OpenGL currently being processed. |
| 19:41.35 | nocts|work | That's it. |
| 19:41.48 | nocts|work | It records the data to an uncompressed .avi file |
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| 19:42.11 | Xinhuan | actually that's incorrect |
| 19:42.23 | Xinhuan | it records it in fraps codec, which is required to decode that avi file |
| 19:42.36 | Xinhuan | fraps codec is installed at the same time fraps is installed |
| 19:43.01 | nocts|work | Oh snap, |
| 19:43.06 | nocts|work | Thanks for clarification :) Didn't know. |
| 19:43.08 | Xinhuan | fraps codec is almost uncompressed though |
| 19:43.37 | nevcairiel | well even uncompressed is some sort of codec |
| 19:43.41 | nevcairiel | since avi is only a container format |
| 19:43.58 | nocts|work | Still, wasn't aware that it used a fraps particular codec. |
| 19:44.06 | VonhintenHOME` | it does indeed |
| 19:44.53 | nocts|work | Good times |
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| 19:46.08 | Obelixprime | yay container formats |
| 19:46.17 | Obelixprime | was supposed to implement a hardware mp4 muxer... |
| 19:46.20 | Obelixprime | not fun |
| 19:53.12 | Obelixprime | c/c++ question: if I have an array of a struct, and i've created an static const instance of that struct, why can't I initialize the array with the instance of the struct |
| 19:55.17 | CrazyBenny | you cant initialize arrays with constants, if I recall correctly |
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| 20:06.55 | Kaelten |  hey guys |
| 20:06.58 | Kaelten | please vote on this |
| 20:06.59 | Kaelten | http://wow.curseforge.com/polls/java-script-use-on-curse-forge/#comments |
| 20:07.04 | Chompers | hello thar |
| 20:07.29 | Kaelten | as it will affect the new wowace as well |
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| 20:08.37 | Chompers | what would it add exactly? |
| 20:08.46 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't have an account there, but put me in for "Use AJAX where it makes sense, and I hope you die and rot in hell" |
| 20:09.22 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: make an account :-P |
| 20:09.26 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:09.29 | VonhintenHOME` | oh yeah, "And stay away from Warhammer, I want my next game to be curse-free" |
| 20:09.41 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: sorry, too late |
| 20:09.57 | ckknight | war.curseforge.com wardb.com warhammeralliance.com thewarwiki.com |
| 20:10.11 | VonhintenHOME` | ugh |
| 20:10.23 | ckknight | I get to play community manager for everything developer-centric for Warhammer, though |
| 20:10.29 | Kaelten | but I think you'll find tha tthe sites are ver good |
| 20:10.50 | ckknight | so it's not just someone who knows nothing about developer needs |
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| 20:11.34 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: why do you want curse out of warhammer? :-P |
| 20:13.33 | kadrahil | huh, i just tried to install omen with the curse client and it said "Failed to connect to previous instance [Error 00000000]" |
| 20:13.45 | ckknight | kadrahil: tell Kolie |
| 20:13.56 | kadrahil | Kolie: i just tried to install omen with the curse client and it said "Failed to connect to previous instance [Error 00000000]" |
| 20:13.57 | Kaelten | kadrahil: was that the really old version? |
| 20:13.58 | VonhintenHOME` | sounds like an abandoned mutex! |
| 20:14.06 | kadrahil | Kaelten: Just installed it today. |
| 20:14.20 | Kaelten | ya but there is the old one which suffered from that randomly, and the new one which should be fixed |
| 20:14.24 | Kaelten | the new one is still in beta though |
| 20:14.31 | kadrahil | ah, so should i get the beta then? |
| 20:14.49 | Arrowmaster | it has to be better than the old one =D |
| 20:14.50 | kadrahil | this one is 0.16.0.0 |
| 20:14.55 | Kaelten | ya thats the old one |
| 20:14.57 | Kaelten | we still advise backing up your addon directory (just in case) |
| 20:15.04 | Kaelten | but feel free to try the new one |
| 20:15.09 | Kaelten | I think its definately better than .16 |
| 20:15.15 | kadrahil | I just have a fresh install of wow on a new pc so I have no addons yet :D |
| 20:15.28 | kadrahil | This thing is blazing fast holy crap |
| 20:15.35 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:15.36 | Kaelten | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/ |
| 20:15.59 | kadrahil | Thanks |
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| 20:17.18 | VonhintenHOME` | So, IGN offered to buy you guys yet? |
| 20:20.02 | VonhintenHOME` | Or 1UP |
| 20:20.09 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: I heard rumors of it happening in a few years, but not now |
| 20:20.10 | Kolie | kadrahil: Trew the beta client. |
| 20:20.14 | ckknight | or something |
| 20:20.15 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 20:20.25 | cladhaire | they've offered NeT quite a bit of money for curse |
| 20:20.27 | cladhaire | a few times now |
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| 20:20.42 | kadrahil | Kolie: I am, thanks :) |
| 20:20.47 | Kolie | Oh k. |
| 20:20.54 | Kolie | I was afk in the bathroom. |
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| 20:21.06 | kadrahil | You mean you don't take your keyboard to the bathroom with you? |
| 20:21.12 | Kolie | Well, not at work. |
| 20:21.16 | kadrahil | >:( |
| 20:21.17 | Kolie | At home yes. |
| 20:21.23 | kadrahil | lol |
| 20:21.28 | Kolie | Its not a joke ;( |
| 20:21.45 | VonhintenHOME` | 1UP would do well to buy you out. They still way underdogged to IGN |
| 20:21.52 | Kolie | ok back t the code. |
| 20:22.29 | VonhintenHOME` | even though filefront kicks the ass out of fileplanet |
| 20:23.37 | VonhintenHOME` | ugh "75% of Console Releases in Q3 Came from Activision and EA" |
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| 20:23.54 | VonhintenHOME` | And that, ladies and gentleman, is what we call a near monopoly |
| 20:24.57 | VonhintenHOME` | if those two ever merged, it's over |
| 20:25.26 | Kaelten | ya, I still don't like how filefront an fileplanet upload mods to their sites without getting authors permissions |
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| 20:25.41 | Kaelten | at one point not to long ago 1up was for sale |
| 20:26.26 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, they kind of have been put in the public domain |
| 20:26.42 | Arrowmaster | what has? |
| 20:26.48 | VonhintenHOME` | mods |
| 20:26.56 | Arrowmaster | no they havent |
| 20:28.05 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't recall ever having to agree to a license to download a mod |
| 20:28.20 | CIA-47 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r81049 10ag_UnitFrames/ (13 files in 11 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Layout options handles text options |
| 20:28.31 | Arrowmaster | they are still copyright |
| 20:29.18 | VonhintenHOME` | So? |
| 20:29.41 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: much of it is the ability to distribute, not the ability to use |
| 20:30.08 | Zhinjio | honestly, you can call it whatever you like. until money changes hands, its kind of a moot point. |
| 20:30.15 | VonhintenHOME` | exactly |
| 20:30.20 | Zhinjio | everything else is just people stroking their egos |
| 20:31.04 | njal | clearly not everybody are computer programmers :P |
| 20:31.15 | Zhinjio | is. |
| 20:31.52 | njal | but you dont believe in copyrights? |
| 20:32.03 | Zhinjio | I never said that |
| 20:32.08 | CIA-47 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r81050 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Added locale and a security check |
| 20:32.26 | njal | you don't have to agree to a license to be bound by a copyright |
| 20:32.59 | Zhinjio | in the US, that whole discussion is a 300 lb gorilla. I for one am not interested in having it. |
| 20:33.34 | Zhinjio | I should say "especially in the US" |
| 20:34.04 | Zhinjio | Most people speak on the subject with such utter ignorance so emphatically that people are inclined to agree with them |
| 20:34.40 | Zhinjio | anyway, like I said... I'm not inclined to start it, or participate in it. |
| 20:34.49 | Zhinjio | Feel free to protect yourself and your code by whatever means you happy |
| 20:35.14 | cladhaire | "that whole discussion{" |
| 20:35.21 | cladhaire | there is no discussion regarding copyright |
| 20:35.23 | cladhaire | in this case |
| 20:35.27 | cladhaire | and there never has been |
| 20:35.34 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: except by putting it on a website that makes a lot of money from advertisements, money is changing hands, just not between the person downloading it |
| 20:36.09 | Kaelten | egads, this topic is as bad a politics or religion |
| 20:36.24 | Zhinjio | or vi |
| 20:36.25 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 20:36.32 | Kaelten | mysql vs postgres |
| 20:36.36 | ckknight | vi > emacs |
| 20:36.39 | Kaelten | well that one seems to be calming |
| 20:36.47 | Kaelten | linux distro of choice |
| 20:36.54 | Kaelten | dvcs of choice |
| 20:36.59 | Kaelten | etc |
| 20:37.04 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 20:37.06 | cladhaire | except not |
| 20:37.09 | cladhaire | its fun to pretend tho |
| 20:37.23 | cladhaire | technology holy wars is not the same as copyright and licensing |
| 20:37.27 | cladhaire | licensing which I'm not discussing |
| 20:37.34 | cladhaire | because _THAT_ conversation is a dead end |
| 20:37.37 | Zhinjio | "hahaha! |
| 20:37.42 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 20:37.50 | cladhaire | copyright, however is not. |
| 20:39.00 | Kaelten | cladhaire: while the discussions may be different, the end resulting conversation can have many simularities |
| 20:39.32 | cladhaire | whatevs |
| 20:39.35 | cladhaire | we can agree to disagree |
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| 20:43.59 | nocts|work | vi > emacs |
| 20:44.05 | nocts|work | Linux > Mac |
| 20:44.14 | nocts|work | USA < Europe |
| 20:44.18 | nocts|work | What else. |
| 20:44.28 | nocts|work | Yankees > Red Sox |
| 20:44.38 | nocts|work | Burgerking > McDonalds |
| 20:44.51 | ckknight | stop while you're behind |
| 20:45.05 | nocts|work | Just trying to add flame to the fire. |
| 20:45.14 | nocts|work | Are you an emacs person, ck? |
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| 20:46.18 | ckknight | nocts|work: I use TextMate |
| 20:47.10 | Zhinjio | <-- vi |
| 20:48.00 | Zhinjio | for windows use, EditPlus |
| 20:48.00 | Zhinjio | (with lua extensions/templates, of course) |
| 20:48.00 | Thrae | Or gvim for Windows. |
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| 20:49.31 | Xinhuan | cake < pie |
| 20:49.59 | Zhinjio | the cake is a lie |
| 20:50.01 | Obelixprime | OR GVIM FOR YOUR MOTHER |
| 20:50.02 | ckknight | truth, Xinhuan |
| 20:50.06 | ckknight | pie > cake by far |
| 20:50.26 | Thrae | The pie is truth. The cake is a lie. |
| 20:53.45 | thul | http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs33/i/2008/240/0/6/Girya_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day |
| 20:53.47 | fewyn | GIVE ME PIE OR GIVE ME DEATH |
| 20:54.43 | Obelixprime | nocts|work - ... so I'm at home |
| 20:54.57 | Obelixprime | and trying to disable the clock on the minimap |
| 20:55.05 | Obelixprime | how do you do that? |
| 20:55.28 | Zhinjio | Chinchilla! |
| 20:55.30 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 20:55.41 | Obelixprime | simpleMiniMap doesn't do it |
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| 20:55.48 | Obelixprime | so i guess I have to go to chinchilla |
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| 20:59.58 | fewyn | i really wish live would stop asking me if my hardware changed and it wants to reset my settings |
| 21:00.01 | Adirelle | dunno who worked on AceGUI-3.0, but it is awesome (I'm using it through AceConfigDialog, but I didn't know how it works) |
| 21:00.23 | Xinhuan | whoa an alar update! |
| 21:00.32 | ckknight | Adirelle: Nargiddley |
| 21:01.04 | Adirelle | cheers Nargiddley |
| 21:01.41 | Xinhuan | hmm when we transit from wowace to the new system, i wonder if kaelten can provide download counts for all the addons in the past 2-3 years, just spend a day or 2 parsing all the logs for it ;p |
| 21:01.53 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:01.57 | Kaelten | sorry man I haven't kept the logs |
| 21:02.01 | Xinhuan | damn |
| 21:02.03 | Kaelten | I only have a 30 day cycle |
| 21:02.11 | Xinhuan | would have been cool to know :( |
| 21:02.21 | VonhintenHOME` | That's what she said |
| 21:02.29 | fewyn | Kaelten: thanks for the change to the glow on onebag3 |
| 21:02.37 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:02.49 | fewyn | Was really getting on my nerves |
| 21:02.51 | Kaelten | still not sure I'm happy with it though |
| 21:02.58 | fewyn | It's nicer at least |
| 21:03.05 | fewyn | Going to add a onebank in the future? |
| 21:03.09 | Kaelten | yep |
| 21:03.14 | Kaelten | once OneBag is done |
| 21:03.16 | fewyn | the regular bank hates me |
| 21:03.21 | fewyn | because it's ugly |
| 21:03.23 | fewyn | and evil |
| 21:03.34 | Xinhuan | i have a question for all of you - do you people use A and D keys to strafe or Turn left/right (default)? |
| 21:03.45 | VonhintenHOME` | <- wishes BigBankStatement did guild bank too |
| 21:03.56 | fewyn | Xinhuan: i use mouse for movement |
| 21:04.07 | Xinhuan | that doesn't answer me ;p |
| 21:04.08 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: A: petattack, E: set focus |
| 21:04.14 | fewyn | that's a no! |
| 21:04.15 | VonhintenHOME` | I use left and right arrow to strafe, mouse to move |
| 21:04.19 | nocts|work | Xinhuan: Default |
| 21:04.20 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, I switch a,d and q,e bindings first thing |
| 21:04.24 | fewyn | i don't strafe! |
| 21:04.43 | nocts|work | I turn+strafe+mouseturn+mouseclick on new target quite often. |
| 21:04.45 | Xinhuan | so most of you use AD to strafe, counterstrike style, and use QE for spells? |
| 21:04.47 | nocts|work | Can't afford to unbind them. |
| 21:05.00 | Obelixprime | i use q-e to strafe |
| 21:05.09 | Obelixprime | but shift q - shift e for spells |
| 21:05.16 | Xinhuan | i'm trying to figure out if i can adapt to using AD instead of QE |
| 21:05.24 | Thrae | is a Q-E strafer. |
| 21:05.27 | Adirelle | hm... forgot to mention I'm using an AZERTY keyboards, so that's Q=petattack, E=focus |
| 21:05.28 | Xinhuan | and unbinding S so i stop backpeddling |
| 21:05.51 | Obelixprime | yeah... i don't think i could do that |
| 21:06.03 | Zhinjio | <-- nostromo junkie |
| 21:06.09 | Thrae | Really, WoW is a bit different from FPSes since in a FPS, you generally go First-Person, while in WoW you're generally looking at it Third Person. |
| 21:06.17 | VonhintenHOME` | I never got used to using awsd, I'm all arrow keys, with common functions bound around those arrows, like numpad0, del, end, r-ctrl, r-shift |
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| 21:06.56 | nocts|work | I WASD because of MUD. |
| 21:07.08 | fewyn | muds are fun |
| 21:07.14 | fewyn | but i use the keypad for muds |
| 21:07.18 | Xinhuan | hmm i dunno, most of the top arena players (2400+) seem to use AD to strafe, and don't need S to backpeddle, so S is freed up for another spell.. except rogues |
| 21:07.24 | nocts|work | Well, see that's not the same thing fewyn |
| 21:07.30 | nocts|work | You're talking about macro automation of north, south, etc. |
| 21:07.45 | Daemona | anyone able to log on to coldarra atm? |
| 21:07.47 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd position my fingers wrong in the dark if I didn't use arrows |
| 21:07.50 | fewyn | no Daemona |
| 21:07.53 | Diao | i use qe for strafe and ad for spells |
| 21:07.53 | fewyn | the servers are down |
| 21:07.58 | nocts|work | I got used to WASD because I always had both hands on the keyboard, versus splitting them. WASD kept me on the same feel through Quake, HL, etc. |
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| 21:08.02 | Diao | because qe is more natural when you're holding w |
| 21:08.03 | VonhintenHOME` | I also use an egro split keyboard, so the 6 and 7 split is very functional for me |
| 21:08.12 | Diao | although i think the most natural would be awe |
| 21:08.16 | Diao | for movement |
| 21:08.18 | Diao | and qd for spells |
| 21:08.19 | nocts|work | Diao: QE is more cumbersome for my fingers. |
| 21:08.21 | Daemona | i just just a nostromo n52 ;) |
| 21:08.28 | Diao | depends which fingers you use i guess |
| 21:08.31 | nocts|work | I actually have to raise my fingers up to hit qwe at the same time. |
| 21:08.32 | Diao | i use ring finger for w |
| 21:08.36 | Diao | not middle |
| 21:08.47 | nocts|work | And your pinky is Q? |
| 21:08.50 | Diao | yeah |
| 21:08.55 | Obelixprime | weiiiird |
| 21:08.56 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 21:09.01 | Diao | it's more natural that way |
| 21:09.12 | nocts|work | For some hands. |
| 21:09.14 | Diao | probably because i'm used to homerowing from typing |
| 21:09.14 | Obelixprime | i suppose |
| 21:09.19 | Diao | so my pinky is always on a |
| 21:09.24 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 21:09.25 | Diao | and i just move it around |
| 21:09.30 | Obelixprime | i think i'd have to make capslock more useful |
| 21:09.45 | Diao | and my hand can stretch easily all the way to 8 |
| 21:09.48 | Diao | while holding w with my ring |
| 21:09.50 | nocts|work | I always remove capslock in my system and rebind if to alt+ctrl+shift+1 |
| 21:09.55 | nocts|work | *it to |
| 21:09.58 | Diao | so i can make use of |
| 21:09.58 | Diao | 1-8 |
| 21:10.01 | Diao | instead of 1-6 like most people |
| 21:10.07 | Diao | or `-8 even |
| 21:10.33 | Diao | if i used middle finger for w then i wouldn't be able to hit the 8 anywhere near as easily :p |
| 21:10.44 | nocts|work | That's true |
| 21:10.56 | Obelixprime | i've only been able to reach 6 |
| 21:11.02 | Adirelle | having the forefinger free leads to many possibilities |
| 21:11.09 | Diao | yep |
| 21:11.24 | Obelixprime | so i usually map stuff on my action bars after 6 to f, v, shift q, shift e, and ` |
| 21:11.38 | VonhintenHOME` | ugh |
| 21:11.43 | nocts|work | Well, with the qwe fingerd approach on pinky, the 7 and 8 are easier to reach. |
| 21:11.45 | nocts|work | But still |
| 21:11.54 | Adirelle | like map stuff on 4-5-6-r-t-f-g and you can easily use these to cast will moving |
| 21:11.58 | Diao | i have keys bound for `-8, a, d, r, t, y, g, h, f |
| 21:12.03 | Diao | and all ctrl/shift/alt modifiers |
| 21:12.11 | Diao | and then i use zxcv for rarer stuff |
| 21:12.17 | Diao | cause i have to move my hand slightly for those |
| 21:12.21 | nocts|work | I learned to abuse every single key on my keyboard from Ellipsis |
| 21:12.25 | nocts|work | I don't have a single unbound key. |
| 21:12.30 | Diao | well yeah |
| 21:12.33 | Diao | all my keys are bound to something |
| 21:12.38 | Diao | but my "easy access" keys are bound to those |
| 21:12.39 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't use a single hotbar keybind |
| 21:12.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm all Shift+#,# |
| 21:12.48 | Diao | like i have recklessness on \ |
| 21:12.56 | Diao | cause i only use that once every 30 min in pve |
| 21:13.08 | VonhintenHOME` | old school daoc style |
| 21:14.13 | VonhintenHOME` | In fact, Warhammer has pissed me off in that they won't let you throw Morales onto the hotbar |
| 21:14.31 | VonhintenHOME` | it's forcing me to use some fucked up special keys I'm not used to |
| 21:14.39 | Diao | they won't let you rebind the key? |
| 21:14.57 | VonhintenHOME` | you can rebind it, but I don't use key binds |
| 21:15.30 | VonhintenHOME` | I would have thrown the morales on my Shift+6 bar |
| 21:16.12 | Diao | oh |
| 21:16.18 | Diao | you mean bar paging? |
| 21:16.23 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 21:16.25 | Diao | ah |
| 21:16.27 | VonhintenHOME` | That's all I use |
| 21:16.27 | Diao | yeah that's cool |
| 21:16.38 | Diao | i tried paging for a bit |
| 21:16.45 | Diao | the memory system is nice |
| 21:16.50 | Diao | but the delay killed me |
| 21:16.53 | Obelixprime | how do i move chinchilla |
| 21:16.55 | Diao | so i went back to pure binds |
| 21:17.01 | VonhintenHOME` | easier for my brain, memorize a matrix |
| 21:17.09 | Diao | yeah mine is all muscle memory |
| 21:17.13 | Diao | i honestly don't remember what's bound to what |
| 21:17.15 | Diao | it's all natural |
| 21:17.28 | Diao | right click chinchilla, unlock |
| 21:17.29 | Diao | then drag it? |
| 21:18.33 | VonhintenHOME` | I have all my stuff arranged in functional groups, main attacks on page one, heals/misc on page two, buffs/misc on page 3, assist and target macros/misc on page 4, etc |
| 21:18.51 | VonhintenHOME` | can jump on any toon and play easily |
| 21:18.53 | Diao | yeah |
| 21:18.55 | Diao | i do that with my binds |
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| 21:20.08 | TheOther | meh, no fun in winning the draw at figureprints when they don't support eu accounts :p |
| 21:20.14 | VonhintenHOME` | always put special things on shift+1,1 shift+2,2 shift+3,3 etc, since it's most natural. Shift+6,6 is always my major emergency ability |
| 21:20.22 | VonhintenHOME` | bubble on pally, evasion on rogue, etc |
| 21:21.24 | ckknight | Obelixprime: click and drag? |
| 21:23.59 | Obelixprime | yeah |
| 21:24.02 | Obelixprime | it wasn't working initially |
| 21:24.04 | Obelixprime | i'm really tired |
| 21:24.13 | Obelixprime | so i'm slightly retaded |
| 21:25.32 | ckknight | you misspelled retarded |
| 21:26.56 | Obelixprime | i did a twitter status first thing this morning... I wanted to say fortune cookies |
| 21:27.04 | Obelixprime | i ended up saying foture cookies |
| 21:27.32 | Obelixprime | so, my ability to type degrades exponentially while tired |
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| 22:09.29 | nocts|work | "src/Makefile.am:1: required directory src/removed does not exist" |
| 22:09.32 | nocts|work | O.o |
| 22:09.39 | nocts|work | But... I'm looking at it. |
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| 22:11.32 | nocts|work | Oh snap, I hate typos. |
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| 22:16.20 | NivFreak | so when does files stop updating again? |
| 22:16.30 | NivFreak | wasn't it supposed to be by now? |
| 22:16.37 | ckknight | NivFreak: what do you mean? |
| 22:17.22 | NivFreak | I thought files.wowace.com was supposed to be dead |
| 22:17.31 | NivFreak | by the end of the month |
| 22:17.31 | Arrowmaster | not yet |
| 22:17.37 | NivFreak | what's the timeline? |
| 22:18.11 | Arrowmaster | another month probably |
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| 22:27.28 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I think we may have a beta up sometime soon |
| 22:27.35 | ckknight | err, NivFreak* |
| 22:27.41 | ckknight | for the new wowace |
| 22:28.01 | NivFreak | all I care about is my updater |
| 22:28.06 | NivFreak | I still see no mac version of the curse one |
| 22:28.13 | ckknight | NivFreak: talk to Kolie |
| 22:28.17 | NivFreak | I have |
| 22:28.18 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:28.22 | ckknight | I use a mac too, btw |
| 22:28.28 | NivFreak | as do many of us |
| 22:28.31 | NivFreak | I use both |
| 22:28.43 | NivFreak | in beta I've just been pulling straight from svn for most stuff |
| 22:28.45 | NivFreak | minus yours |
| 22:28.55 | NivFreak | well actually, I think I'm pulling pitbull out of wowace svn |
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| 22:29.24 | Kolie | i |
| 22:29.26 | Kolie | What about me |
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| 22:29.50 | ckknight | Kolie: the people demand a mac client :-P |
| 22:29.58 | NivFreak | riots in the streets soon |
| 22:29.59 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:30.04 | JerleMinara | yeah, all 5 mac users |
| 22:30.05 | Kolie | lol, you want it to do more then just compile as it does now. |
| 22:30.12 | Thrae | iWhine |
| 22:30.20 | Kolie | And actually with what I did yesterday its not going to compile again |
| 22:30.46 | NivFreak | JerleMinara: you're a bright one eh |
| 22:30.59 | Kolie | wow has like 10% mac users I thin. |
| 22:31.00 | JerleMinara | mom always called me her little ray of sunshine |
| 22:31.08 | JerleMinara | it was a joke, settle down you trendy bastard |
| 22:31.18 | Kolie | chunky marinara? |
| 22:31.22 | nocts|work | Kolie: Cite your source? |
| 22:31.35 | Kolie | My source? I spoke to a blizzard employee. |
| 22:31.45 | nocts|work | Got a name? |
| 22:31.55 | Kolie | Kevin beardslee. |
| 22:32.06 | Kolie | Also another guy, I cant remember his name at the moment. |
| 22:32.07 | NivFreak | I play on 3 platforms |
| 22:32.08 | nocts|work | And product support should never depend heavily on sheer numerical marketshare. |
| 22:32.24 | ckknight | why's that, nocts|work? |
| 22:32.30 | Fisker- | NivFreak many of you being 4 people |
| 22:32.40 | Kolie | See I live in irvine for 21 years, and I made coffee where all the blizzard employees go for lunch, and beore that I cleaned the carpet in the old blizzard building :P I know alot of people there. |
| 22:32.49 | NivFreak | Fisker-: /golfclap |
| 22:32.55 | nocts|work | ckknight: Because at that point the company has acknowledged a higher interest in profit return alone than community. |
| 22:33.16 | JerleMinara | Kolie: i live in irvine. where do they go for lunch? |
| 22:33.20 | ckknight | but they're serving the community if they serve the majority rather than putting unnecessary amount of resources into a minority |
| 22:33.25 | Kolie | OCC coffee cart. |
| 22:33.26 | Kolie | err |
| 22:33.27 | Kolie | IVC |
| 22:33.30 | nocts|work | See, that's a phalacy. |
| 22:33.35 | Kolie | jeffery and barranca. |
| 22:33.35 | nocts|work | "unnessessary amount of resources" |
| 22:33.44 | JerleMinara | IVC? I thought they were over at UCI dude |
| 22:33.50 | nocts|work | There is an untold amount of Linux programmers that are offering their services damn near for free to port projects. |
| 22:33.55 | Kolie | ? half of them are talking classes. |
| 22:33.59 | Kolie | And they are down barranca |
| 22:34.05 | Kolie | half way to spectrum. |
| 22:34.09 | nocts|work | Even with NDA's, they're willing to do the dirty work while the primary development teams work as normal. |
| 22:34.10 | JerleMinara | oh that must be their new site |
| 22:34.21 | JerleMinara | when i interviewed for a GM position they were in the UCI research park |
| 22:34.25 | Kolie | "new" theyve been there for about 4 years now.... |
| 22:34.27 | nocts|work | It's a lazy excuse, nothing more. |
| 22:34.28 | Kolie | or more. |
| 22:34.37 | JerleMinara | no they haven't |
| 22:34.51 | JerleMinara | since i interviewed in uhh.. 06? and it was at the UCI site |
| 22:35.06 | JerleMinara | and I'm pretty sure they have a consolidated corporate campus |
| 22:35.19 | Kolie | They ditched UCI pretty sure. |
| 22:35.21 | nocts|work | Even assuming that with NDA lockdowns, the other OS developers that are working on the side can at least tell the community that the port is in the works and a delay is expected. Versus a flat out rejection. |
| 22:35.30 | Kolie | Did you go in the one with the big diablo statue at the entrance? |
| 22:35.52 | nocts|work | What's the GM interview like? |
| 22:35.52 | JerleMinara | mmm.. trying to remember. i was only in the main building briefly then i went to the GM building |
| 22:35.56 | JerleMinara | no comment |
| 22:36.01 | Kolie | You would know, its scary as hell. |
| 22:36.01 | NivFreak | aka troll |
| 22:36.07 | ckknight | nocts|work: well, I don't make technical decisions wrt the client. Try to convince netcurse, then you can get whatever you want :-P |
| 22:36.11 | JerleMinara | pretty sure I signed an NDA NivFreak :> |
| 22:36.29 | JerleMinara | maybe I didn't, I actually don't remember, so i'll err on the side of caution |
| 22:36.29 | nocts|work | ckknight: :P Didn't mean just curseforge, just a general /rant to singular OS developers |
| 22:36.33 | JerleMinara | shrugs |
| 22:36.35 | NivFreak | aka troll |
| 22:36.38 | Kolie | NDA on your interview? Kinda funny.. I was a programmer and there was no nda on the interview. |
| 22:36.39 | JerleMinara | blow me |
| 22:36.49 | nocts|work | blows on JerleMinara |
| 22:36.58 | JerleMinara | Kolie: I don't know, I remember signing some shit, so I'll just assume it was NDA'd because there's no way that can work against me :P |
| 22:37.15 | nocts|work | Are GM positions a hot commodity or are there massive turnover rates that allow for future positions? |
| 22:37.23 | JerleMinara | it wasn't that interesting and was pretty standard fare, as best I recall |
| 22:37.26 | NivFreak | let me guess, they turned you down because you were too smart? |
| 22:37.36 | Kolie | nocts|work being a GM sucks, you want to be the tester. |
| 22:37.47 | Kolie | Its basically tech support, but 13 year olds. |
| 22:37.48 | JerleMinara | no, i turned them down because i got a better offer from a friend doing slightly more technical work |
| 22:37.55 | nocts|work | I like the customer support side, Koklie. |
| 22:38.08 | nocts|work | Granted, tester would be nice too and so would tech. But one foot before the other. |
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| 22:38.12 | Kolie | hehe, tester is better. you LITERALLY play games all day. |
| 22:38.16 | NivFreak | nocts|work: customer support for hormone rageing teens? |
| 22:38.17 | Kolie | New content? You get to use it. |
| 22:38.17 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:38.21 | JerleMinara | and you can't afford to live in irvine on the GM salary anyways |
| 22:38.25 | Kolie | ? |
| 22:38.29 | nocts|work | NivFreak: And? |
| 22:38.40 | NivFreak | someone has to do it I guess :) |
| 22:38.44 | Thrae | At my job we play World of Warcraft sometimes for our work. |
| 22:38.44 | nocts|work | Takes a more matured mind than the audience to know how to tell people "no" while keeping a level head. |
| 22:38.48 | Kolie | Whats the entry level gm pay/ |
| 22:38.59 | JerleMinara | Kolie: $10 an hour |
| 22:39.05 | Thrae | If you really want to take all the fun out of a game, test it! |
| 22:39.07 | Kolie | I survived on 8.50 in irvine... |
| 22:39.11 | JerleMinara | uh? |
| 22:39.14 | JerleMinara | where the hell were you living |
| 22:39.16 | NivFreak | doesn't in-and-out pay that much in OC? |
| 22:39.20 | Kolie | jeffery and barranca. |
| 22:39.32 | JerleMinara | the median rent in irvine is like 2k a month |
| 22:39.38 | nocts|work | What qualifications are they looking for in a GM? |
| 22:39.38 | Kolie | I was paying 1800. |
| 22:39.46 | JerleMinara | on 8.50 with no other income source? |
| 22:39.55 | Kolie | Well, I made tips. |
| 22:40.01 | Kolie | But it wasnt alot :) |
| 22:40.08 | NivFreak | 1360 a month |
| 22:40.09 | NivFreak | pretax |
| 22:40.11 | JerleMinara | must've been handy tips, and/or you relied on ramen as your food |
| 22:40.11 | nocts|work | The GM outfit is retarded. |
| 22:40.14 | NivFreak | for a 160 hour month |
| 22:40.22 | Kolie | ramen is tasty. |
| 22:40.31 | Thrae | GM Survey. 1) Do you like Shamans? 2) Will you support FOTM? 3) Isn't Arena the coolest thing ever? |
| 22:40.38 | Kolie | I worked a bit more then 8 hrs a day niv. |
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| 22:40.47 | NivFreak | Kolie: overtime? |
| 22:40.49 | JerleMinara | because your full time wage at 8.50 an hour is 17340 and a 12 month contract at 1800 is 21600 |
| 22:40.59 | JerleMinara | you must've been pulling a shit ton of overtime to even be able to eat |
| 22:41.04 | Kolie | nope. |
| 22:41.12 | JerleMinara | then you've discovered a new form of math |
| 22:41.16 | Kolie | 1-2 hrs maybe. and tips. |
| 22:41.23 | VonhintenHOME` | tips from what? |
| 22:41.28 | Kolie | Making coffee. |
| 22:41.31 | nocts|work | lol |
| 22:41.43 | Kolie | 50$ a day wasnt uncommon. |
| 22:41.55 | VonhintenHOME` | in tips? |
| 22:42.04 | Kolie | And if you have a SO, then whats 1800 a month rent. |
| 22:42.05 | NivFreak | 50 doesn't seem hard for coffee |
| 22:42.06 | Kolie | Oh wait. |
| 22:42.09 | Kolie | He said GM. |
| 22:42.11 | NivFreak | $1/drink is pretty norm for tips |
| 22:42.12 | JerleMinara | oh |
| 22:42.17 | JerleMinara | you weren't paying 1800 on your own |
| 22:42.23 | JerleMinara | ok. that i'll buy :P |
| 22:42.59 | Obelixprime | beta down? |
| 22:43.09 | JerleMinara | living alone on a low-wage job in irvine is prettymuch impossible. just covering rent is barely feasible. i've run the numbers |
| 22:43.30 | NivFreak | irvine is fucking weird too |
| 22:43.34 | Kolie | Well we figured out that JerleMinara applied for a job and didnt get it. And he lives alone. |
| 22:43.38 | NivFreak | most of the places don't come with appliances it seems |
| 22:43.39 | Kolie | Irvine IS fucking weird. |
| 22:43.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd have a tough time living on less than 40k a year |
| 22:43.46 | NivFreak | I mean... wtf? |
| 22:43.51 | JerleMinara | i actually live with my father at this point Kolie :P |
| 22:43.52 | Kolie | And that most places you cant own the land... |
| 22:44.05 | JerleMinara | and go to school full time |
| 22:44.18 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:44.21 | Kolie | So while I was making this coffee I was doing a full load... |
| 22:44.25 | nocts|work | licks Ellipsis |
| 22:44.30 | Ellipsis | purrs |
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| 22:45.05 | Kolie | monday tuesday school all day wed - sunday, work and maybe a night class or two. |
| 22:45.26 | nocts|work | Why does that sound like the start of a 80's sond? |
| 22:45.29 | JerleMinara | i'm taking 19 credits and not working at this point |
| 22:45.29 | nocts|work | *song |
| 22:45.45 | Kolie | ouch if i took 19 credits i would end myself. |
| 22:46.01 | JerleMinara | going to add in a full time job once school settles |
| 22:46.18 | Ellipsis | bah, you people and your lives |
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| 22:49.53 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:50.49 | Ellipsis | oh yeah Fisker-, just like that |
| 22:50.52 | nocts|work | Is it RFC compliant? |
| 22:50.59 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:50.59 | nocts|work | If not, fix it, resubmit it, and do it again. |
| 22:52.36 | Aii | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324 |
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| 22:56.30 | Aii | specifically, "Any attempt to brew coffee with a teapot should result in the error code "418 I'm a teapot". The resulting entity body MAY be short and stout. |
| 22:56.33 | Aii | " |
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| 22:59.11 | Groktar | hai |
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| 23:00.08 | Groktar | eyes falconindy's soul hungrily |
| 23:00.13 | Dashkal | ????-04-01 RFCs are win |
| 23:00.58 | falconindy | No soul here, sorry Groktar |
| 23:01.38 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
| 23:03.24 | CIA-47 | 03zhinjio * r81053 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua img/fly_repcol.blp): |
| 23:03.24 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:03.24 | CIA-47 | - new gui images done |
| 23:03.24 | CIA-47 | - just need to hook everything in |
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| 23:05.35 | Archarodim | is colorra down? I can't log-in... |
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| 23:06.09 | Dashkal | Archarodim: beta is down for a few more hours |
| 23:06.30 | Archarodim | ah ok thanks |
| 23:08.24 | Adirelle | Archarodim: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336663776&sid=2000 |
| 23:08.43 | Adirelle | WTB online timezone converter |
| 23:09.11 | JerleMinara | 2-4 hours to go |
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| 23:11.32 | Adirelle | I have to remember that PST to CEST conversion means +9 |
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| 23:12.34 | JerleMinara | http://www.time.gov |
| 23:16.06 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis sideways |
| 23:16.30 | Adirelle | JerleMinara: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/ is far more efficient for conversion ^^ |
| 23:18.02 | Adirelle | anyway, I'm off, night |
| 23:19.07 | Ellipsis | stabs Pkekyo| in the face |
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| 23:21.18 | Pkekyo| | whyes? :( |
| 23:21.23 | Pkekyo| | also: |
| 23:21.24 | Pkekyo| | loves it |
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| 23:22.33 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: because I said so! |
| 23:22.44 | Pkekyo| | okay |
| 23:22.51 | Pkekyo| | sits back to enjoy the ride... |
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| 23:26.10 | Groktar | so i got a degree progress report from my university |
| 23:26.26 | Groktar | it said i need to take math 75, which is first semester calculus |
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| 23:26.38 | Groktar | i passed 76 my first semester there...\ |
| 23:27.11 | Pkekyo| | Groktar: point being? |
| 23:27.22 | JerleMinara | 76 comes after 75 |
| 23:27.27 | JerleMinara | you must not be past elementary maths yet :> |
| 23:27.45 | Pkekyo| | yes...but...so what? |
| 23:27.51 | Groktar | 76 is second semester calculus, and i got a 5 on the ap calc a test |
| 23:27.52 | Groktar | :/ |
| 23:27.54 | JerleMinara | think hard |
| 23:27.56 | JerleMinara | you might figure it out |
| 23:28.10 | CIA-47 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r81054 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/modules/quickhealth/quickhealth.lua: ag_UnitFrames: proxy isn't need in wotlk, UnitHealth knows the future |
| 23:28.23 | Groktar | calc a = first semester calc and half of second |
| 23:28.42 | Pkekyo| | damn yanks....you're not making any sense |
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| 23:28.57 | Groktar | i'm going to have to talk to the department secretary |
| 23:29.13 | Groktar | when i applied for graduation before i dropped up this wasn't an issue |
| 23:29.19 | Groktar | *dropped out |
| 23:29.51 | Pkekyo| | eh...you dropped out but still demand to graduate? |
| 23:30.27 | Groktar | ya, i dropped out after what would have been my final semester |
| 23:30.32 | Groktar | and now i'm back to finish |
| 23:30.49 | Groktar | investigates the catalog |
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| 23:31.11 | Obelixprime | so nocts and ellipsis... |
| 23:31.15 | Obelixprime | i made most of your changes |
| 23:31.28 | Obelixprime | i'm just sad panda that swstats nor dotimers use shared media library |
| 23:31.33 | Ellipsis | hi |
| 23:31.44 | Groktar | http://www.csufresno.edu/catoffice/archives/0102/found.html <- relevant page |
| 23:32.07 | Ellipsis | they both have a variety of different bar textures, some of which are actually the same as the ones you'll find in sharedmedia |
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| 23:34.40 | Obelixprime | they don't match the texture i did choose though... so i'm trying to make do |
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| 23:44.30 | Groktar | ok, according to the catalog a 3,4, or 5 in calculus ab will satisfy the math 075 requirement, provided you have 2 or more elective units in math |
| 23:44.51 | Groktar | so the progress report is just a pos |
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