IRC log for #wowace on 20080411

00:00.37ckknightArrowmaster: we'll be using gitosis, so basically specific users will have write access, everyone has read access
00:00.52Arrowmasteryeah but write access to what?
00:00.55ckknightyou upload your ssh pubkey and then you are able to push
00:01.37Arrowmasteryeah but to the entire repo? or just certain branches?
00:01.46ckknightArrowmaster: to the entire repo
00:02.05ckknightalso, master (trunk in svn speak) is a branch just like any other, btw
00:02.06Arrowmasterso no way to restrict other than entire repo access?
00:02.13ckknightsadly, no
00:02.20ckknightnot that I know of.
00:02.32Arrowmastertheres precommit hooks right?
00:02.42ckknighthrm, could look into doing that.
00:02.58ckknightwould complicate things...
00:03.48PaeneAnyone mind taking a look at this and telling me if it'll cache the items? http://ace.pastey.net/85492
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00:05.55alcarashrm, did something happen with a recent grid update?
00:06.01alcarasi updated and now grid is out of position
00:06.09alcaraslooks like it lost its scaling/location information?
00:06.30pastamancerdid you have it up against the edge of the screen?
00:06.32alcarasyes
00:06.37alcarasbottom middle
00:06.44ckknightArrowmaster: in any event, forking is very common in git, it's basically how all work is done. You make a fork, make changes to your fork, then publish those changes
00:06.46pastamancerand now it's up a little higher than normal?
00:06.54alcarasno, now its in the middle of the screen
00:07.01pastamancerthat's odd
00:07.25pastamancerI haven't done anything that would cause it to move to an entirely different part of the screen
00:07.56pastamancerthe rest of your settings seem to be unchanged?
00:08.03alcarasyes apparently
00:08.09alcarasisee there's a new update 19m ago that i missed
00:08.14alcarasalt-f4ing out and trying w/ that update
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00:08.46pastamancerthat's just a fix for the automatic layouts if they're not ready when grid tries to load the layout the first time
00:09.03alcarasi use dynamic layout
00:09.08pastamancerah
00:09.14WobWorkI would suggest precommit hooks to control access would be... horrific to maintain
00:09.35alcarasloading up again with 69008
00:10.05ckknightWobWork: you know it, I'm using gitorious, which already has the pre-push commits that handle user access, but that's on a per-repo basis
00:10.08CIA-3903bendo * r69010 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua:
00:10.08CIA-39LibBabble-Inventory-3.0
00:10.08CIA-39- frFR update
00:10.30alcarasnope, still in the middle of my screen
00:10.31Gnarfozpastamancer: oh, right, I failed to report that, too. my grid was also showing up in the middle of the screen (on that char, I usually had it against the left screen edge)
00:11.05alcarasalso appears to have reverted to 1.0 scale instead of 1.6
00:11.22alcarasjust going to resize/move it now and see if it'll save
00:11.58alcaraserr weird
00:12.06alcarasit still thinks it is 1.6 scale
00:12.10alcaraslet me take a screenshot or two
00:12.11sag_ich_nicht~lart pastamancer
00:12.11purlacting on orders from an unspecified client drags pastamancer into court suing for $200 million
00:12.38Arrowmasterhmm i thought aoe mode was working in omen
00:13.04Estiloh wow, somebody managed to get Exalted with every single reputation
00:13.09pastamanceradd "self:UpdateDisplay()" between the Debug and the return around line 822 in GridLayout.lua
00:13.21pastamancerand let me know if that fixes things
00:13.24NivFreakEstil: clearly not every single
00:13.25WobWorkEstil: That takes... commitment...
00:13.33WobWorkBloodsail and booty bay?
00:13.37NivFreaksome of them are linked
00:13.39Estilyea
00:13.41NivFreakaldor / scryers etc
00:13.42Estilbloodsail is max revered
00:13.49Estiland goblin faction is exalted
00:13.50WobWorkhehe
00:13.57Estilhe is exalted with aldor while wearing scryer tabard
00:14.01alcarasah i'll hold off on screenshots, alt-f4 again and try that fix pasta
00:14.07WobWorkWell that's possible
00:14.08Estilhere he is:
00:14.12Estilhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Dragonblight&n=Leishmania
00:14.38NivFreakhehe
00:14.40NivFreakinsane
00:15.07NivFreakhow did he do the bloodsail / booty bay rep
00:15.10EstilI dunno
00:15.12Estilbut he did it
00:15.22sag_ich_nichtwell
00:15.36Orionshockwintersaber trainers... wow that's
00:15.46Nechcknraising all the other gobs' rep would raise BB's rep level
00:15.47Orionshockand the AQ40 one too?
00:15.48alcaraspastamancer: before and after: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25452005@N02/2404582488/
00:15.51Paene~api GetItemInfo
00:15.52purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo
00:15.56WobWorkwhen I said earlier about commitment?
00:16.01WobWorkI meant he should be committed
00:16.09sag_ich_nichtif you do the quest in feralas you get goblin rep but don't lose bloodsail rep
00:16.17EstilI can't imagine doing that
00:16.20Estilto get to exalted...
00:17.05pastamanceralcaras: so that didn't fix it?
00:17.06Ackisi'm exalted
00:17.15alcarasadded self:UpdateDisplay at line 822 and now retrying
00:17.20pastamancerah, ok
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00:18.08WobWorkoh god
00:18.17WobWorkHyppogryph eggs?
00:18.25WobWorkThat's the worst commute EVER
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00:18.54alcaraspastamancer: did not fix it
00:19.01Ackisshen'dralar was annoying to get exalted... and ravenholdt is really annoying as a non-rogue
00:19.06alcarasgetting an error on 820 actually
00:19.11alcarasGrid-68458\GridLayout.lua:820: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil)
00:19.11todd`I'm just getting into lua, and I was wondering if someone could explain the difference between running code in PLAYER_LOGIN, and running it in the main file (outside of any event)
00:19.22pastamanceralcaras: oh
00:19.32WobWorkAckis: Ravenholdt is just killing syndicate mobs, no?
00:19.34todd`can't seem to find any documentation on the difference
00:19.37WobWorkfor non rogue
00:19.38ArrowmasterAntiarc: bah the fucking mob blacklist doesnt apply to other peoples syncs to you! i have overview mode full of crypt scarabs
00:19.38EstilBlizzard should send him a hot chick
00:19.39WobWorks
00:19.43Estilas a reward for time spent to get full exalted
00:19.47Ackis1 rep each, however you can get heavy junkboxes to turn in
00:19.48Estilhe probably needs one
00:19.58WobWorkEstil: Nah, they'll just wait til WotLK
00:19.59AckisI'm not sure if I'm exalted w/ 36 or 37
00:20.01Estillol
00:20.02WobWorkand he'll kill himself
00:20.05pastamanceralcaras: change line 820 to if type(layout) ~= "table" or not next(layout) then
00:20.09NeoTronArrowmaster: l2upgrade then?
00:20.20Arrowmasteri did
00:20.25Arrowmasterrest of the raid hasnt
00:20.30alcarasok, alt-f4ing and restarting
00:20.39alcaras(i need to alt-f4 to prevent setting saved right?)
00:20.44pastamanceryeah
00:20.46Ackisnot as pretty as that dude, but damn close: :P http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Illidan&n=Ackis
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00:21.22Estilcrazy people!
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00:22.47alcarasnew errors
00:23.04alcarasnvm i forgot 'then'
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00:24.32alcarasreloading...
00:24.39alcarasit worked!
00:24.46alcaraswe're back to good old layout
00:25.03alcaraspastamancer: thank you, it is working now :)
00:25.18NivFreak6 min 27 sec VR kill
00:25.22NivFreaknew strat rules
00:25.34pastamancerall stand at his feet?
00:25.36NivFreakyea
00:25.43NivFreakI wish we'd done it a long time ago
00:25.50CIA-3903pastamancer * r69011 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: sometimes the layout is nil, not just an empty table.
00:26.30NivFreakI wonder if they'll nerf that strat
00:26.33NivFreakmakes the fight trivial
00:26.39NivFreaknot that it wasn't before
00:26.40NivFreakbut even more so
00:26.48Dranorwhat new strat?
00:26.52alcarasthanks again pastamancer -- off to bt raid now
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00:27.00NivFreakhave the entire raid stand on top of VR
00:27.08NivFreakhave one hunter run circles with his aspect up
00:27.11Arrowmasterlol
00:27.12NivFreakand VR will only orb him
00:27.17NivFreakwhile pounding the entire raid
00:27.24Arrowmasterthats a great strat
00:27.27NivFreakit cut 3 minutes off our kill from last week
00:27.32NivFreakor rather, last time
00:27.44pastamancerif everyone is up close, does he orb the melee?  I didn't think he would
00:27.56NivFreakyou need one person at range
00:27.57NivFreakaka the hunter
00:28.00pastamancerah
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00:28.05NivFreakhe just puts his run speed aspect up
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00:28.07pastamancerwhat happens without the hunter?
00:28.09NivFreakand runs circles
00:28.09Ellipsisgood thing hunters are expendable
00:28.13NivFreakhe'll orb the melee
00:28.14JJSheetsis back (gone 01:44:58)
00:28.19NivFreakif no one is at range
00:28.25pastamancerah, ok
00:28.37NivFreakour hunters don't even appear on the WWS
00:28.37NivFreakhaha
00:28.42NivFreakhttp://wowwebstats.com/yflqmilsns54q?s=13948-14334&m
00:28.48NivFreakwe had two of them doing it
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00:42.46Arrowmasterso i had to completely disable Parrot due to the 2.4 'compat'
00:42.51Arrowmaster20% fps drop
00:42.55ckknight...soz
00:43.14ckknightI've not had time to work on it
00:44.28NeoTronNivFreak: what about raid damage in that situation?
00:44.39NeoTronis the pounding limited in scope?
00:44.41CIA-3903paene * r69012 10Cryolysis2/ (14 files in 5 dirs):
00:44.41CIA-39Cryolysis2:
00:44.41CIA-39- Removed even more manual translations for items
00:44.42CIA-39- Added a cache push function to handle errors after patches
00:44.42CIA-39- Removed Babble-Spell
00:45.07Paeneand broke who knows what
00:45.07Paene!
00:45.25Paeneit works for English speaking users
00:45.26Paenelol
00:45.46Ellipsisand the rest don't matter
00:45.47Ellipsis:P
00:45.48NivFreakNeoTron: it seemed to hit the majority of the raid
00:45.53NivFreakbut I'm not sure it was 100%
00:46.16NivFreakNeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/yflqmilsns54q?s=13948-14334&m
00:47.08grennonokay, so chatframe_addmessageeventfilter seems to basically be for text after the : in a normat chat msg
00:47.10PaeneEllipsis: my thoughts exactly!
00:47.31grennonso for [Guild] [Jeff]: hey guys whats up
00:47.40grennonthe filter only filters on what jeff says
00:47.45Orionshockwhere is the 2.4 combat log??
00:47.50Ellipsis...
00:47.51WobWorkbehind the couch
00:47.52grennonyou cant use those filters to shorten the prefixes
00:47.55Orionshockim not seeing it in the wdn where one would expect it
00:47.57Ellipsiswhat kind of question is that?
00:48.16Orionshocknevermind.
00:48.27WobWorkit was behind the couch all the time =P
00:48.29Orionshock<3 blizzard's organization system with their UI...
00:48.50NeoTronNivFreak: man that's a lot of heal :P
00:48.55NivFreakNeoTron: yea, aside from resists everyone got hit
00:48.59NeoTronwell not amzingly so but I gather it's needed
00:49.05NivFreakNeoTron: we have 2 CoH priests and 2 resto shaman
00:49.07NivFreakand it was no problem
00:49.45NivFreak3.5 million dmg over 6.5 mins
00:51.25CIA-3903rabbit * r69013 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Fix guild roster updating.
00:51.41durcynso, can anyone think of a reason why Mendeleev should hook GameTooltip, but not ItemRefTooltip?
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00:53.04NeoTronOMG there's another addon called Magic Marker
00:53.08NivFreakhaha
00:53.08NeoTronnot very magic though
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00:53.18Ellipsisbetter sue
00:53.19NivFreakpredates yours?
00:54.01NeoTronvery primitive
00:54.29NivFreakNeoTron: btw, what happened to mobinfo inside magicmarker?
00:54.32NivFreakthat was very useful
00:54.36NivFreaker
00:54.38NivFreakmobnotes even
00:55.21NeoTronit likely does predate mine
00:55.29NeoTronand afaik mobnotes still work unless I broke it
00:55.33NivFreakwell
00:55.37NivFreakI don't see it where I expect
00:55.47CIA-3903paene * r69014 10Cryolysis2/Bindings.lua:
00:55.47CIA-39Cryolysis2:
00:55.47CIA-39- Updated key bindings to reflect the mount button change
00:55.48NivFreaklike when I'm setting up tank/CC prio for the mob
00:56.05NivFreakI could be blind though
00:57.02NivFreakso, is there a throttle on how fast it'll proccess mobs as I sweep?
00:57.15NeoTronah well my MM is on wowace, this other one is not :P
00:57.27NeoTronthere is a throttle
00:57.33NeoTrondue to a race condition I got
00:57.45NivFreakoh, I thought that was fixed in 2.4
00:57.49NeoTronit didn't
00:57.52NivFreakdamn
00:57.56NeoTronhere's how it worked
00:58.03NivFreakI noticed it because of the AoE packs in solarian's trash
00:58.13NivFreakI ignore all the mobs by the two we need to tank
00:58.15NivFreakand mark those
00:58.21NivFreakso it took me slow sweeping to get them marked
00:58.24NeoTronMark mob A, then mark mob B which overrides A. MM now things B has the mark A had
00:58.41NeoTronI then mouse over A again and if I do it fast enough the client still hasn't registered the change
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00:58.52NeoTronand I think A has an external mark that in fact I just moved to B
00:59.09NivFreakI liked your ideal of a sweep and mark functionality
00:59.15NeoTronthat is not an issue
00:59.21NivFreakidea even
00:59.32NeoTronit's only an issue when you readjust marks
00:59.37NivFreakif I could just sweep the pack with my modifier down, and have it mark them after I release it
00:59.40NeoTronand sweep and mark is pointless and not very good
01:00.03NivFreakso, the place MM is a bit painful for me, is TK trash
01:00.03NeoTronbetter is to mark stuff with alt down and keep a prioritized list
01:00.07NivFreakgoing to Al'ar
01:00.13NeoTronwhen you release alt it will (re)mark based on the mobs it saw
01:00.23NivFreakthat would be fine
01:00.29NeoTronMM works in Sunwell. I know it works in TK ;-)
01:00.35NivFreakit works in TK
01:00.45NivFreakbut it's a bit painful with the mobs split across a hallway
01:00.56NivFreaksince I have to do two sweeps to avoid marking packs behind them
01:01.02NivFreakbut then
01:01.06NivFreakI Have to do it 2-3 more times
01:01.10NivFreakto get everything marked
01:01.15NivFreaksince it's moving marks the entire time
01:01.57NeyaYou could do it so you do your sweep like a U-turn with the bottom almost at your end.
01:02.21NivFreakyou just have to do that several times
01:02.25NivFreakand it's a bit awkward
01:02.31NivFreakI deal with it, just an observation
01:03.20NeoTronthat's how it is
01:03.24chiperwow..  so what inspired this sudden revolt against Babble-Spell?
01:03.27NeoTronand that is what my redesign would fix
01:03.36NivFreakchiper: spellids?
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01:03.50chiperah, GetSpellInfo
01:03.58NeoTronin fact I think I would just make it so while holding alt it doesn't even need to priorotize - throw marks out to show the mobs it will then prioritize and mark
01:04.08NivFreakyea
01:04.10NivFreakthat'd be great neo
01:04.24NeoTronthat way you can quickly sweep AND mark with "placeholder marks" that simply shows the mobs you will mark
01:04.31NeoTronI'll experiment with it but yeah
01:04.33NivFreakthat would be awesome
01:04.36NeoTronI have other higher priority stuff to do
01:04.37ckknightBabbleSpell is no longer needed
01:04.39ckknightand it is awesome.
01:04.40NivFreakno way!
01:04.42NivFreakthat's #1!
01:04.50NivFreakscrew your dkp!
01:04.52ckknightnow if only the rest of Babble could be purged
01:05.02NeoTronmaking a working DKP system > improving something that works :P
01:05.20NivFreaknow now
01:05.26NivFreakI disagree!
01:05.30NivFreaksince I don't use DKP :)
01:05.31SprinklesAlright, since it dc/d me earlier. Anyone know if you can get spells like Unending breath and Detect Lesser invis onto Autobar buttons? If so what category do they fall under.
01:05.33chiperneo: if you do that, please make it optional
01:05.50chiperI get itchy group members that start attacking the instant a mark appears
01:05.53chiperespecially rogues
01:06.01Ellipsisthey fall under "you need them once a year so why not just leave them in your spellbook" imo
01:06.08NivFreakchiper: how would this change that problem?
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01:06.24NivFreak:P
01:06.26chiperniv: placeholder marks that dont actually mean what they're marking...
01:06.29Gnarfoz:\
01:06.32NivFreakthat's what happens anyway
01:06.33chiperpeople going after a target that's going to change
01:06.34NivFreakwhen you're sweeping
01:06.51Gnarfozwho do I have to bug if BigWigs' proximity monitor doesn't show up on a fight where it should?
01:06.58NivFreaksweep a pack with medium+high+very high prio tank targets
01:07.03durcynGnarfoz: make sure it's enabled, first.
01:07.04NivFreakand go from med -> high -> very high
01:07.07FtH|Daemonanoone, enabled it in the settings
01:07.10Gnarfozdurcyn: duh.
01:07.11NivFreakand you'll watch your first tank target jump
01:07.13Gnarfozit is enabled. :)
01:07.14NeoTronchiper: then bitchslap them?
01:07.15durcynGnarfoz: if you ever closed the window, it'll stay off
01:07.24chiperneo: heh
01:07.24durcynand you should bug Funkeh`
01:07.27NeoTronchiper: wtf kind of a raid have ppl attacking as soon as an icon appears?
01:07.28GnarfozI didn't, and I checked if I did just to be sure ^^
01:07.36chipernot raids, just 5mans
01:07.48chiperI'm not a raid leader
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01:07.54Gnarfoz(yes, both the module *and* the option for the boss mod)
01:07.57NivFreakheh
01:08.11NeoTronand it wouldn't be optional btw
01:08.18Gnarfozdurcyn: closing it is the same as toggling the boss mod's option, right?
01:08.18NivFreakI think it's ideal
01:08.27NivFreakand you should add it tonight!
01:08.28NeoTronit will minimize the number of times things are marked
01:08.34durcynGnarfoz: it should toggle the same option, yes.
01:08.44NeoTronnow I might not use placeholder marks
01:09.04NivFreakyou could make that optional
01:09.05NeoTronin fact it's likely better to add mob to list, sort list, set mark, iterate raid/group to set more marks and so on
01:09.16chiperponders why his mysql make doesnt seem to be doing anything
01:09.18NeoTronplaceholder system can be toggled yes
01:09.24NeoTronprioritization change wouldn't be
01:09.32NeoTronjust whether or not to always do it
01:09.32NivFreakpersonally, I'd like the visual feedback to tell me I've marked all the mobs
01:09.39NivFreakthen release and let it set priority
01:09.48EsineI want to use Blizzard's ItemButtonTemplate with AceGUI3. Is this possible?
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01:10.04Seyk069Hello
01:10.22NivFreakanyway, mobnotes + magicmarker == awesome
01:10.27NivFreakand now that I have mobspells too
01:10.29NivFreakit's so great
01:10.38chipermobnotes?
01:10.48Seyk069Wondering if anyone knwos of an addon that can track down which addon is using the most CPU? new UI we did up is using alot of courses and lagging alot.
01:10.56NivFreakmobnotes lets you set notes on specific mobs, and then comes pre-pop'd with useful info
01:11.11NivFreaklike "has AoE shadowbolt volley, can be sheeped"
01:11.11NivFreaketc
01:11.14NeoTronand no, raid night today
01:11.20NivFreakNeoTron: ok, tomorrow!
01:11.22chiperhow filled in is it?
01:11.30NivFreakchiper: great for t5+ from what I've sene
01:11.31[eu]gunderSeyk069: FuBar-PerformanceFu
01:11.31NivFreakseen
01:11.43CIA-3903siz * r69015 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua:
01:11.43CIA-39JewelTips: (Thanks Ghostar)
01:11.43CIA-39- Fixed "Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility"
01:11.43CIA-39- Added two enchants
01:11.44Seyk069[eu]gunder:thanks =)
01:11.53chipermeh, it's fivemans that I care about
01:11.59NivFreakso set the notes as you go :P
01:12.05[eu]gunderyou have an option for tracking cpu activity
01:12.20NeoTronI'm planning to add learned CC method, knwon immunities display to MM as well
01:12.34NivFreakNeoTron: the learned CC stuff is awesome ;)
01:12.37NeoTronin reality that stuff could go in a mobnotes type addon instead
01:12.45chipermeh, that's pointless to me.  if I knew what it could do already, I wouldnt need it
01:12.50NivFreakit'd be nice to store it there if mobnotes had a sane API
01:12.54NeoTronNivFreak: yeah it's nice.. although it messed up my marking when it learned a mob could be trapped :P
01:12.57Yssarilwhat is the function to check if i can wear an item say if something is cloth i can wear it but if its plate it would return nil
01:13.06NeoTronwe don't rely on trap normally but I still had it in my available cc methods list
01:13.14NivFreakNeoTron: yea, it'd be nice to be able to blacklist CC methods for mobs
01:13.25NeoTronnah it's fine
01:13.33NeoTronI just remove trap from available CC methods
01:13.41NeoTronif for a reason I want it i can just re-add it
01:13.43NivFreakwell, it's nice to know it can be ;)
01:13.49NeoTronno
01:13.52NivFreakbut that would be solved if you stored the CC info in mobnotes or something
01:13.55NeoTronI mean the global "use these cc methods"
01:13.59NivFreakoh
01:14.06NivFreakwell, sure
01:14.17NivFreakin general we skip traps completely
01:14.18NeoTronif then I would use trap I just add it again
01:14.20NeoTronright
01:14.21NivFreakbut if we're down to 1 mage
01:14.23NivFreakwe use it
01:14.25NeoTronand we also don't use fear
01:14.31NivFreakWe use fear situationally
01:14.35Ellipsisfear is win :(
01:14.35NeoTronexcept last nigth pre-brutallus with one mage
01:14.41NivFreakhaha
01:14.42NivFreakpoor mages
01:14.44NeoTronEllipsis: fear is dangerous and a cause of wipes
01:15.03NivFreakwell controlled fear is the best CC method in the game
01:15.05Ellipsisonly if your locks suck
01:15.18NivFreakbut RNG gets you
01:15.27NivFreaknothing like watching a mob go in a straight line away from you
01:15.30NeoTronshit happens
01:15.34NivFreakbefore they can CoR
01:15.35NeoTroneven if yo use CoR/CoS
01:15.36Ellipsisl2CoR?
01:15.43NeoTronLoS happens
01:15.51NivFreakthey can run out of range/LoS in one GCD
01:15.55NivFreakjust doesn't normally happen
01:16.02Ellipsisyou're off gcd when the fear cast finishes
01:16.08NeoTronplus if you want GOOD fear control that person is spending a significant amount of time handling it
01:16.13Ellipsisyou can CoR immediately if you need to
01:16.42EllipsisNeoTron: sure, but if they're aff they can also kill the mob at the same time
01:16.45NeoTronout of all CC methods it's not the worst but it's farm from good to use in most situations
01:16.53NeoTronexcept they are not
01:17.05Ellipsisyou don't have a support spec aff lock?
01:17.06NeoTronaff locks belong in Kara->SSC/TK
01:17.08NivFreakwhen you have the space for it, there isn't a better CC Method
01:17.14NivFreaksince you can continue to DPS
01:17.17NeoTronwe do for brutallus
01:17.33NivFreakand we bring 2xdestro 1xafflic
01:17.34NeoTronbut before SWP we haven't had one for 4 months
01:17.49NeoTronlarge loss of DPS and it sucks to be the imp bitch lock
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01:18.11NivFreakimps are still useful
01:18.11Ellipsisof course it sucks
01:18.15buuHrm.
01:18.17NivFreakso we bring one
01:18.22Ellipsisbut if you already have an aff lock there's no reason not to let them dps their fear
01:18.26NivFreakalso, malediction is nice
01:18.27NeoTronI have imp imp in the few cases where we need it
01:18.51NeoTrononly reason to have an aff lock is if you need it for tank survivability
01:19.08NivFreakI'd disagree ;)
01:19.17NivFreakbut they are certainly a more utility focused spec
01:19.30NivFreakI just basically make the lowest dmg lock spec afflic
01:19.32NivFreakworks out fine
01:19.58NivFreakone of my locks is fire destro atm
01:20.01NeoTronBrutallus: 5 warlocks (1 aff), 2 shadow priests => malediction about 280-300 dps
01:20.08NivFreakoddly, it didn't drop his dps much
01:20.12Ellipsislolfirelock
01:20.13NeoTronhis loss in dps from affliction => 500-600
01:20.35NivFreakNeoTron: I'm sure it depends on your content level
01:20.48NivFreakours lost < 200dps
01:20.51NeoTronit's purely useful for Shadow Embrace and putting the imp up without loss to dps
01:20.56NeoTronof course
01:21.00NeoTronI'm talking high end tier 6
01:21.05NivFreakyep
01:21.32NeoTronin t5 a good aff lock can outdps a good destro lock
01:21.34NeoTrondepending on the fight
01:21.46NivFreakin theory
01:21.49NivFreakbut I still haven't seen it
01:21.58NeoTron_good_ aff lock
01:22.00NeoTronkeyword good
01:22.02NeoTronmost suck
01:22.02NivFreaklike I said
01:22.03NivFreakin theory
01:22.07NivFreakI have 2 meh locks
01:22.11NivFreakand 1 good one
01:22.13NeoTronon brutallus
01:22.25NeoTron5/6 top 6 were locks
01:22.35Ellipsisso back to my actual point, since you guys already HAVE an aff lock around, why not let them do the CC (assuming they don't suck at fear control) and then they can still do some dps at the same time?
01:22.37NivFreakI'm sure brutallus will be nerfed to shit before I ever see him
01:22.39NeoTronwas somewhat of a fluke but dest locks always sit at top
01:22.55NeoTronEllipsis: because we have better CC?
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01:23.10NeoTronwe use fear only if we need to use fear which we rarely do
01:23.23NivFreaksame with us
01:23.24NeoTronwe use 3 mages for kalecgos trash
01:23.28NivFreakmostly just because of the RNG factor
01:23.34NeoTronthen we swap one out for the kalecgos fight
01:23.40FritzI'm having a problem with Quartz and Aloft - the colors I choose for both are always 'diluted'. If I choose white, it's more like a light gray. If I choose bright yellow, it's like this mustard yellow
01:23.58WobWorkFritz: check your alpha?
01:24.04FritzBoth are solid
01:24.05NivFreakyea, alpha settings most likely
01:24.12FritzIt's not alpha.
01:24.15NivFreaktexture?
01:24.22NivFreakgradient whatever
01:24.33FritzNo gradients. I use flat texture for everything
01:24.34NeoTronand it just so happens that the lock is out best aff loc, and last one to swap to destruction
01:24.44NeoTronbut he's best at DPS and mediocre on crowd/fear control
01:24.54NeoTronhe gets so much into DPS he sometimes forget other stuff
01:25.09NivFreakI just gkicked a hunter like that
01:25.15NivFreakmakes me sad to lose a top 3 DPS
01:25.22NivFreakbut he had no aggro control or situational awareness
01:25.30NeoTronthis guy isn't that bad
01:25.34Yssarilanyone know the function to check if an item is equipable by me? (if i cant equip that armor type/weapontype it should return false)
01:25.36NeoTronhe just forgets the occasional banish etc
01:25.49NivFreakhehe
01:25.56NivFreaktell him to put his CC timer bar next to his dottimer
01:26.20FritzCould it be a problem with the 'Flat' texture from SharedMedia?
01:26.28FritzUsing a diluted color for its flatness?
01:26.28NeoTronhe's pulled 2300 DPS without CoD - I think I'll just deal with him not being best at everything
01:27.02WobWorkYssaril: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=API_IsEquippableItem ?
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01:27.22NeoTronme:GoHome()
01:27.25NeoTronttfn
01:27.27EllipsisFritz: many statusbar textures are somewhat dark, yes
01:27.53FritzIs  there a way to tweak that
01:28.00Ellipsismake your own texture
01:28.04Ellipsisor pick a different one that looks lighter
01:28.08EllipsisI use smooth v2
01:28.09FritzShouldn't be hard, like I said I use flat.
01:28.42FritzBut how do you modify the color range? These are simply TGA files
01:28.49YssarilWobWork, already tried that it seams to only distinguish between what is equipable (not caring what you can equip)
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01:29.53Atriacenevcairiel: ping
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01:30.22AtriaceI wonder if that stands for "Nevada" .. "California" .. "Iriel"
01:31.12Atriacedoh!    wrong channel...
01:31.13Ellipsiso.O;
01:32.18Estila warlock named Drugsarebad
01:33.06kadrahilblargh
01:33.15kadrahilabout to pay some guild like 1k gold for my t4 pants and chest
01:33.22kadrahilcause nobody runs that crap anymore
01:33.29Estilyour server must be low pop
01:33.30Estil:(
01:33.31Benumbeddot dot dot
01:33.38EstilI see plenty of people making kara and grull pugs
01:33.39Estiland ZA
01:33.40kadrahilno, just everyone's in ssc and tk or black templw
01:33.42Estilon Blackrock Horde
01:33.43kadrahiltemple
01:33.50kadrahilstormreaver horde actually
01:34.05Estilmaybe you need to transfer ;)
01:34.23kadrahili can probably find a guild but i want to be in one that's already in or through with ssc
01:34.25Estilevery day there's an ad for "kara badge rush gogogo" "za pug being made etc etc" "gruul pugs lf people" etc
01:34.31kadrahiland i'm a little behind gear wise
01:34.55kadrahili've got 3/5 t4 and full kara epics on my hunter
01:34.56Estilstill
01:35.00Estil1k gold for t4 pants and chest
01:35.04Estilwhat class/spec are you?
01:35.05Estilhunter?
01:35.06kadrahilbut the fact is i'm a hunter and everyone already has too many
01:35.17kadrahilhunter, whatever spec is needed, i generally stick to BM for pve though
01:35.34kadrahili'd say i know my class well and can hold my own
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01:36.12kadrahilbut there's 1982378 hunters already and all the top guilds already have 3 or 4 active ones and don't need anymore
01:38.27NivFreakkadrahil: pvp server?
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01:45.28durcynFunkeh`: any chance of decoupling the gase nova sound from the mass dispel spam, and/or only listing the dispels that didn't go through?
01:45.32durcyngas*
01:45.53kadrahilNivFreak: yes
01:46.07kadrahilNivFreak: day one server, used to be known as the harshest world pvp server of them all
01:46.39Triumvirateif someone is editing the felmyst addon, change the gasnova cooldown, it's much shorter than 22 seconds :P
01:47.31JaxonI don't suppose there is a simple way to change my Sink target for all the addons that support it..
01:48.30Funkeh`durcyn, eh?
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01:50.13[Endeavour]Hmm seems like WoW doesn't like While ... do constructs?
01:50.20Chaudis there a sct that tells you which spell was reflected?
01:50.27Chaud*with spell reflect
01:50.52durcynFunkeh`:felmyst mass dispel announce
01:51.19Arrowmaster[Endeavour]: its single threaded
01:51.33[Endeavour]aaah, explains a lot
01:51.35[Endeavour]hmmmm
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01:51.38[Endeavour]damn
01:51.59Funkeh`durcyn, what about it
01:52.40Triumviratei think he's saying to get rid of the /say where it lists everyone you successfully dispel
01:53.40durcynFunkeh`: what are the chances the gas nova sound could be a separate toggle?  also, how do you feel about only putting the names of the resists in /say?
01:53.58Triumviratewhich, btw, i second that :P
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01:54.41Funkeh`Im not going to have sounds as a separate toggle
01:54.50CIA-3903nayala * r69016 10Baggins_Professions/ (Baggins_Professions.lua Baggins_Professions.toc): Baggins_Professions: No longer need Babble-Tradeskill-2.2
01:54.54durcynfair enough
01:55.45Ackisfyi eredar twins look hot
01:55.59Paeneis select() broken?
01:56.14Ackisand Funkeh, i'll have a few hours of attempts of combat log for you tonight
01:56.48PaeneI'm trying to do select(1, GetItemInfo(itemname)) but instead of returning the name only, it returns everything
01:57.01Ellipsis...
01:57.02Chauddo nameplates show a castbar for things you are not targeting?
01:57.04Ellipsisthat's what select does
01:57.06Arrowmaster`thats how select() works
01:57.11Cryecthehe
01:57.15SaranaAnyone with a rogue know how "Poisons" and "Pick pocketing" shows up? Don't have one so not 100% Baggins_Professions handles those skills correctly.
01:57.20Ellipsisif you just want the first thing you can do (GetItemInfo(itemname))
01:57.54PaeneI thought select let you choose one of the return values?
01:58.03Ellipsisno, it lets you choose all starting from a given index
01:58.08Paeneoooo
01:58.17Ellipsisselect(1, ...) effectively does nothing
01:58.25Paeneyeah, I understand that now
01:58.26Paenelol
01:58.40Ackisso select(2, ...) gives you the second value first?
01:59.00Ellipsisyeah, it will give you the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on
01:59.02Cryectyes
01:59.08Ellipsisand just drops the first entirely
01:59.12Ackisahh the more you know
01:59.19Cryectand select("#", ...) will tell you how many
01:59.34Ackisno longer do I have to do _,foo = blah();bar(foo)
01:59.50JoshBorkedon't use select for that
01:59.57Paeneanyway to just get the second return value and nothing before or after it?
02:00.05Paenewithout declaring vars
02:00.07Ellipsisdo what Ackis just said
02:00.09CryectJoshBorke, there a better way to tell how many args there are?
02:00.10JoshBorkePaene: yes, _, stuff = ...
02:00.20JoshBorkeCryect: no, not that part, the part of replace _, stuff =
02:00.25Cryectoh!
02:00.35Chaud<3 Grayhoof lol, he types out long posts to tell me how wrong I am, then comes back with "Again, I spoke again too soon"
02:00.49SaranaSelect is slower for then using _ in most normal cases for _,_,x,y,z = .... at least the last time I profiled it.
02:00.55JoshBorkewhat logical sense is there in replacing an assignment with dummy variables with a function call?
02:00.55Triumviratewhat is the communities stance on "code borrowing"?
02:00.59Ellipsisyeah, unless you're skipping a lot of args
02:01.08Ellipsisselect is most useful when the arg number isn't static
02:01.08Cryectselect is slow because its a function call
02:01.21Cryectyeah thats the only time you should really use select when you take n args
02:01.50CryectTriumvirate, ask the person who wrote the code if you can
02:02.00Chaudwhat is the proper way to make PlaySound("LEVELUP") play a sound in the addon folder instead
02:02.11JoshBorkeTriumvirate: tell cryect he's dumb then take his code, obviously
02:02.18TriumvirateDear ckknight, may I jack your code?
02:02.18durcynChaud: PlaySoundFile
02:02.38CryectHeh you can take my code as long as you credit me though I really haven't chased down people who've not credited me
02:02.47EllipsisTriumvirate: what are you planning to do with it? :P
02:02.58CryectI've had whole addons "updated" with my name completely replaced in the readme's :-p
02:03.12Cryectwith that plus the date the only thing that actually changed in the readme
02:03.37Triumviratei want to convernt pitbull combopoitns to ISB watch
02:04.02Cryectbetter appease the Ellipsis
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02:04.02Ellipsisah, well if you're just going to copy that module and make one for ISB, that shouldn't be an issue
02:04.16Cryectas long as you don't piss off Ellipsis!
02:04.20Ellipsislol
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02:04.36Ellipsisangry Ellipsis is something to avoid, yes
02:04.42WobWorkhehe: "As someone who majored in psychology, worked in two labs, and read countless psychology papers, I can tell you that 99% of psychologists avoid math when possible, and the other 10% try to use it but make obvious errors."
02:04.54Ackislol
02:05.03Cryecthaha
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02:05.20Triumviratehow should i credit the mod in that case?  (sorry, never dealth with ace writing before)
02:05.51Chaudpink SCT in game with the authors name flashing constantly
02:05.51JoshBorkeTriumvirate: in teh code just say "i stole this code without permisson from so and so, they get all teh credit for it"
02:06.21Paenedon't forget to add "and I love them long time for writing it initially"
02:06.46CIA-3903funkydude * r69017 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua:
02:06.46CIA-39BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst:
02:06.46CIA-39- Don't play a sound on gas nova, play it on encapsulate
02:06.46CIA-39- Remove dispel announce, only announce failed dispels (needs locale update)
02:06.52Funkeh`durcyn, __^
02:07.06EllipsisTriumvirate: depending how much you modify the code, a simple X-Credits and some source comments should be fine
02:07.08SaranaAn "## X-Credits: ..." header might be nice as well.
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02:09.27Triumviratefunkeh, where do you want feedback on sunwell modules?
02:09.44Funkeh`forum post
02:09.49Funkeh`or here
02:10.00Triumvirateyour gas nova cooldown is off for felmyst
02:10.08durcynFunkeh`: thanks, sweetie.
02:10.21Funkeh`you know it's a cooldown right
02:10.26Xelopherisanyone know kazzak/doomwalker gold isnce 2.4?
02:10.27Triumvirateyeah, it's off
02:10.38Funkeh`how so
02:10.52Triumviratewell, if i'm reading it right, it says the cooldown is still down, yet he casts it
02:11.16Triumvirateit's set at 22s?
02:11.30Fix[EJ]Xelopheris: 250g, I believe.
02:11.56Funkeh`yes 22seconds
02:12.18Apocoits cooldown is 20 seconds Funkeh
02:12.29Triumvirateit's much shorter than that... datamining says 5s, but tues night i noticed several times it goes off with about 5-7 seconds left on your timer
02:12.49Xelopherisdidn't know CDs were dataminable O_o
02:12.57ApocoI've never seen it go off 5-7 seconds after each other
02:12.58CIA-3903ellipsis * r69018 10PitBull/Aura/ (Aura.xml Filter.lua Filter23.lua): PitBull_Aura: Removed 2.3 compat.
02:13.03Apocoearliest I've seen is 20s
02:14.03Funkeh`Triumvirate, if you have logs of that to back it up, Id be more than happy to reduce it
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02:14.18Triumviratewould wws suffice?
02:14.37ApocoFunkeh`: I can give you a log from today if you wish.
02:14.48Ellipsisis fisheye dead or just slow?
02:14.50Funkeh`uh, if it showed the timers accurately
02:15.04Triumvirateit's not like every attempt, it only happened like twice during like 15 attempts
02:15.59Triumvirateyou still need logs for twins?
02:15.59Ackisi haven't noticed problems with it
02:16.14Triumvirateit's nothing major ackis
02:16.24Fix[EJ]Is there a way to hide the Proximo titlebar/anchor bar?
02:16.26Funkeh`Triumvirate, yes
02:16.31CIA-3903funkydude * r69019 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: reduce gas nova to 20sec
02:17.04Triumvirateyou want /combatlog or that mod that you used to have?
02:18.16Ackishow far have you got twins down?
02:18.21ApocoFunkeh`:  Just made one for ya
02:18.24Apocowhere do you want it sent?:
02:18.52Funkeh`Triumvirate, either will suffice
02:19.08CIA-3903paene * r69020 10Cryolysis2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
02:19.08CIA-39Cryolysis2:
02:19.08CIA-39- Fixed mana gem, water, and food errors.
02:19.19Funkeh`Apoco, the forum :P
02:20.06Funkeh`Apoco, attach to a forum pm
02:20.16Apocokk
02:20.19Apocoforums not loading
02:20.19Apoco:(
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02:22.15AiianeFix[EJ] - there should be an option for it yes
02:22.44Aiianein /proximo menu, go to Frame -> Optional -> Enable Header
02:23.07ApocoFunkeh`: PM
02:24.21SilverstormKalecgos curse starts at 100, right?
02:24.28hypetecherm
02:24.31hypetechrecount just yelled at me
02:24.38hypetechI'm supposed to report a sourceless heal
02:24.43hypetechprayer of mending on a pet
02:25.09Benumbedbad, dont heal pets
02:25.17Ellipsisman, I wish my users could be as obedient as that
02:25.22JJSheetslol
02:26.02Triumviratei know my questions are probably getting annoying, but anyone know if assessment is being worked on yet, or is it still "on hold"?
02:26.22Ackistrim, how far are you on twins?
02:26.31Triumviratei wasn't there last night
02:26.43Triumviratedon't think they got to phase 2 though, but they only spent like 3 hours
02:27.09Yssarilwoot first custom AceGUI widget built from scratch http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7750/questap5.jpg
02:27.10Triumviratetonight we're doing BT because we're short healers, might head over there after
02:28.14JoshBorkeYssaril: which is it?
02:28.43Yssarilthe item one :P imitates the item frame in your questlog
02:28.52JoshBorkecool, good job :-)
02:28.55Estilbelf females don't have bust :(
02:29.01Estil(that looks neat btw)
02:29.04XelopherisDoes PVP trinket break encapsulate?
02:29.06Ackisi think first kill was 12 hours on them?
02:29.08ApocoYssaril: I am 90% sure the
02:29.13Ackisxelopheris: no
02:29.14Apocodefault wigits can do that
02:29.37Apocothere is one for items or some shiat
02:30.39Yssarilnone that i saw
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02:32.51ckknightYssaril: looks very nice.
02:32.58ApocoLook at the AceGUITest
02:33.01Yssarilbtw AceGUI is very nice and easy to use i may even go as far and say its easier to use than AceConfigDialog
02:33.02ApocoI think it is called
02:35.46Chaudis there any way to move the new interface menu's addon config window
02:37.03WobWorkhm, I should redo heyfu
02:37.06Benumbedseen a mod for it
02:37.09WobWorkwith acegui
02:37.45CryectWhats real hard about designing normal widgets?
02:38.08JoshBorkeChaud: betterblizzoptions
02:38.14JoshBorkeCryect: it takes skill yo...
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02:38.47CryectI've been designing widgets for a long time though in both wow and other projects (including my job at the moment)
02:38.48YssarilApoco, hmm any screenshot (cant make heads or tails out of the test addon while running it :P)
02:38.59Cryectso just curious what makes it easier
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02:39.10JoshBorkecryect: beats me, i never do widgets
02:39.54Apocoits in one of the tabs
02:39.57Apocoits a big square face
02:40.34Chaudthanks
02:40.37YssarilApoco, idg might be the custom widget that is declared in the testaddon
02:40.45CryectYou want to know what I feel like takes skill, mocking objects :-p but still trying to get used to unit testing and its not really skill as painful time consuming
02:41.11Ackischaud: notor get brut?
02:41.30ApocoYssaril: Its the ? icon, Test Controls, named "Test custom control"
02:41.36Apocoyou can drag/drop items there
02:41.49Yssarilyep
02:42.00Apocono idea, just saw it there
02:42.01Apoco:)
02:42.21CryectReminds me I need to go work on a new button widget for Recount2
02:42.22Chauddont think so
02:42.26Chaudthey are doing BT tonight
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02:44.53FritzI've a very simple question
02:45.05FritzHow do I change this line of code to point to Interface\Addons\SharedMedia\statusbar\FlatTrue
02:45.09Fritzswingstatusbar:SetStatusBarTexture(media:Fetch('statusbar', Quartz:GetModule('Player').db.profile.texture))
02:45.24FritzBasically overriding my default selection.
02:46.56Ellipsisswingstatusbar:SetStatusBarTexture([[Interface\Addons\SharedMedia\statusbar\FlatTrue]])
02:46.56durcynhuh, set db.profile.texture, i.e. in quartz options
02:47.08durcyndoes swing not have its own texture selection?
02:47.09FritzThanks Ellipsis
02:47.21FritzI'll try that now
02:47.41Ellipsismost quartz bars inherit sharedmedia paths from the player cast bar
02:47.44Ellipsisfor whatever reason
02:47.51FritzWorks perfect.
02:47.57Ellipsisglad I could help
02:48.26durcynyou should also be using LSM:Fetch(FlatTrue) instead of the full path
02:48.39durcyneh, with quotes rather
02:48.46durcynand whatever string it's registered with
02:49.41FritzWell I just today discovered the reason I seem to get diluted colors with the 'Flat' texture, and it turns out that the status bar textures use a 'color code' and flat uses a gray, which means it darkens all the colors a bit. I made a 'FlatTrue' which is white, but I discovered that makes all the colors far too bright
02:49.47Ellipsishe just created the texture, I doubt he's added it to a MyMedia for registration
02:49.51FritzSo I'm only applying FlatTrue to a few things, like my swing timer and nameplates
02:50.14durcynthen he should register his texture and use it correctly
02:50.20durcynhardcoding shit like that is unwise
02:50.26FritzI added it.
02:50.41Ellipsisdurcyn: he'd still have to hardcode his changes to make it only use FlatTrue in special cases
02:50.49Ellipsise.g. applying it to the swing bar but not other quartz bars
02:50.52durcynalso, since you're forcing the fetch, you should probably make your Quartz OptDep SharedMedia
02:51.00Arrowmasterno
02:51.07Arrowmasternever optdep sharedmedia
02:51.08Ellipsis...no
02:51.18durcynArrowmaster: i'm not saying it's a good idea
02:51.26durcyni'm saying that his hack might not work without an additional hack
02:51.28kergothonly optdep if you require that what you're optdeping on be loaded before you.
02:51.31kergothperiod
02:51.39Ellipsisdurcyn: his hack REMOVES a fetch
02:51.40kergoththe fact taht you might use something from it doesnt mean you need to optdep on it
02:52.09ChaudAckis I take that back, they are moving into Sunwell now
02:52.11Arrowmasterand optdeping sharedmedia is a hack fix for a larger problem
02:52.16Chaudtime for their lolattems
02:53.02durcynEllipsis: afaict the unmodified swing bar isn't textured.
02:53.08Ackislol
02:53.10Ellipsishe pasted the original line
02:53.16Ellipsisit was fetching the texture used by the player cast bar
02:53.23hypetechanybody know why prat isn't holding the right font after a reloadui?
02:53.26Ackisi feel sorry for the horde on gurubashi =/
02:53.30Ellipsisquartz already has all the code necessary to make sharedmedia fetches work right
02:53.31durcynoh, nm, that's a color mask
02:55.30FritzAll Quartz really needs nowadays is more individualized options (I had to hack to make the swing timer and global cooldown widths different from the player casting bar's) and more control over the buff/debuff portion
02:55.53FritzI'm just glad a pet casting bar was finally added for my mage's water elemental
02:56.07EllipsisI was whining so long about the lack of a pet cast bar
02:56.18Ellipsisand then it finally got added right around the same time I stopped using quartz :(
02:56.46FritzI couldn't imagine using a different casting bar on my mage now. I'm so used to looking at Quartz for snare duration.
02:57.38Ellipsisfeh, cast bars ~= buff/debuff bars
02:57.47FritzI didn't like them at first either but they grew on me
02:58.48FritzIt would probably be kind of terrible for managing warlock dots, however.
02:58.53Ellipsisindeed
02:59.04Ellipsisas a lock I couldn't possibly go from EBBs to Quartz for that
02:59.07Ellipsisit's like 10 steps backwards
02:59.12FritzIt manages shadow priests just fine, but only because Alphabetizing puts all the priest stuff where it needs to be by sheer stroke of luck.
03:00.18FritzThe fact that Misery and Mind Flay take up slots is a big negative.
03:00.36FritzHopefully a filter gets put in sometime.
03:01.05CIA-3903durcyn * r69021 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: fix Well Fed scanning for slashcommand checks
03:02.17Triumviratei use classtimer, never really liked quartz timers
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03:03.29CryectBig Brother searches for well fed now O_o?
03:04.43CIA-39037destiny * r69022 10Recount/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
03:04.43CIA-39Recount:
03:04.43CIA-39- Some localization for translation(Details Type)
03:04.43CIA-39- koKR Update
03:05.21Zhinjioooooooo
03:05.22ZhinjioAckis
03:05.31ZhinjioI just thought of something thats missing from ARL
03:05.41Zhinjiominipets!!!
03:05.44Zhinjiogrins.
03:05.47Ellipsisfacepalms
03:05.55Cryecthaha
03:05.55Zhinjioaw c'mon. minipets are great.
03:06.05CIA-3903diablohu * r69023 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua:
03:06.05CIA-39AtlasLoot:
03:06.05CIA-39- zhCN update
03:06.06Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
03:06.16KuraxIt's recipe list...
03:06.17CryectEllipsis, you not one of those girls who must collect every noncombat pet in the game?
03:06.20Zhinjiowell, yeah.
03:06.25EllipsisCryect: not at all
03:06.30Cryectshucks!
03:06.35Zhinjiobut still. the analogy of the interface to serve that same function is natural.
03:06.51CryectWhat exactly purpose would it show? What pets are missing?
03:06.58ZhinjioCryect: I'm one of those guys that must collect...
03:07.05Cryectgotta collect them all!
03:07.16JJSheetslol
03:07.20CryectHeh then you should make the addon and then show me your pokemon!
03:07.35KuraxThen he have to change the name to Ackis Collection List
03:07.44Kuraxhas @@
03:08.36dylanmYou can't really display their 3D models can you... someone was complaining about that.
03:09.06Cryectwhy can't you?
03:09.21Arrowmaster`you can, you just need a db of model names
03:09.39CryectThe issue is you can't display models though by their wdb info
03:09.39dylanmOh right.
03:09.45Cryectso if they textures based on the dbc
03:09.54Cryectyou can't set them
03:09.55dylanmRiiiight.
03:10.11Cryectand most pet models have like 3 or 4 textures
03:10.14Cryectso they are in the dbc
03:10.15dylanmThat would be cool then. I mean I wouldn't use it.
03:10.17KuraxNow seems every wow db site got the ability to display models
03:10.30CryectCould create a bunch of hardcoded model files to use instead
03:10.46dylanmIt's something of an arms race. I was thinking about the specific problem that Guillotine or someone was mentioning earlier.
03:10.56Cryectwhat was that exactly?
03:11.08dylanmThe one you mentioned I... think?
03:11.15dylanmI didn't really take the time to understand it.
03:11.28Ellipsiso,O
03:11.48Kuraxpets Ellipsis
03:11.52Cryectwhat arms race?
03:12.07CryectThe displaying models in game that need DBC texture info?
03:12.21dylanmCryect: That was in response to Kurax.
03:12.32Cryectoh the websites displaying modesl!
03:12.39KuraxHe means websites
03:12.47dylanmWEBSITEZ
03:12.47Cryectheh zinor asked me to code one for curse long ago
03:13.31Cryectthottbot has displayed the models for stuff for a really really long time just their program that did it was awful at camera angles
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03:14.23CIA-39037destiny * r69024 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update
03:15.51Cryectprolly be nice to have library's of hardcoded model files for models that only have textures mapped via the DBC's
03:17.36Cryectwouldn't be too hard to code up an addon to generate them though without another database matching names to dbc entries would be hard to create names that match up well
03:18.44Kuraxdata work
03:24.38Neyahmm, just came to think of something, is there any addon that make use of undo/redo for the user? The idea came up now when I'm sitting here trying to figure out a way to not make it too easy to accidentally give the addon a irrevocable command.
03:24.52CIA-3903paene * r69025 10Cryolysis2/ (buttons/managem.lua core/spellfunctions.lua):
03:24.52CIA-39Cryolysis2:
03:24.52CIA-39- Removed some debugging code/messages
03:32.43Arrowmaster`Neya: huh?
03:33.51Neyalike in most texteditors. undo to get back what you just deleted for example.
03:35.49CIA-3903scorpion * r69026 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
03:35.49CIA-39Cryolysis2:
03:35.49CIA-39- Updated zhTW localization
03:35.49CIA-39- Updated zhCN localization
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03:36.25Arrowmaster`Neya: you mean like for the chatframe editbox?
03:38.07Neyasort of yes. but not only that. e.g a addon that lets you the text on different frames, but also lets you undo it if you decide that it was a bad change after pressing enter to complete the new string.
03:39.41Arrowmaster`oh so like a hotkey to change an editbox back to its previous value
03:39.53Neyaexactly.
03:41.05Arrowmaster`interesting idea but not sure what the best way would be to get the original value the first time you edit an editbox in a session
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03:43.44Cryectstore each of the values everytime focus is lost and its set by the settext command?
03:43.46NeyaI was thinking of something in the way of that the editbox tries to find out what field it is editing and lookup the initial value of that field before it proced to put in the new data in it.
03:43.53Xelopherisarrowmaster, you just create an undo queue for deletes and backspaces
03:44.02Xelopheriswith an index value of how far int he string it was
03:44.41Esinehey do you guys know if there's any libraries nice data tree libraries available for Lua/WoW?
03:44.48Esinelike Radix Tree or some better one
03:45.09CIA-3903apoco * r69027 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
03:45.09CIA-39RBM_BlackTemple (Correct Files This Time..lol):
03:45.09CIA-39- Change: Reduced Range Frame from 15 to 10 Yards for Najentus and Illidan
03:45.09CIA-39- Fix: Mother Shahraz Attraction Clearing
03:45.10CIA-39- Fix: Bloodboil Mod (hopefully it takes this time)
03:45.10CIA-39- Fix: Souls Death Detection
03:45.14CIA-39- Add: Akama start time for Illidan
03:45.26EsineI need it for searching a large amount of strings and I don't know if I should do it by myself (and take my precious time) or if there's an already made one available
03:45.27Cryecthmmm mind if I ask your plans? just curious when someone actually cares about the data structures they are using ^_^
03:45.39Cryectah
03:45.54EsineCryect, I'm storing thousands of names
03:45.57CryectDoesn't seem like it should be too hard to write a radix tree
03:46.06Esineyeah, I know how to write one
03:46.15Esineit's just that my Lua syntax is still a bit..
03:46.15Cryectlot of tables though would be used for the quick implementation
03:46.42EsineCryect, I have a working version of this addon with hashes and all but radix trees would make it a lot better
03:46.56Esineor some other better tree structure which would allow me to search substrings fast
03:46.59Cryecttrying to do early outs?
03:47.01Esineand not just prefix..
03:47.14Esinehm?
03:47.34CryectI mean word completion
03:48.00Esineyeah that'd be a very nice feature and it'd be very slow if I were to use my current method
03:48.07Esinescanning through all the strings
03:48.10Cryectyeah
03:49.12on1yis there a mod that allows more characters?
03:49.19Cryectmore characters?
03:49.27CIA-3903grayhoof * r69028 10Proximo/ (Proximo.lua spellcast.lua): Proximo: Updated cast bars to be accurate for focus and target.
03:49.31Cryectyou are limited by characters on a server by the server not the client
03:49.31Esineon1y, more than 10 characters per realm? no, that's a server side thing
03:49.52Cryectand you can't edit any of the login UI files without wow bitching a lot
03:49.54on1yi mean the 255 limit
03:50.01Arrowmaster`no
03:50.21EsineI don't know about that limitation.
03:50.31CIA-3903next96 * r69029 10FuBar_LocationFu/embeds.xml:
03:50.31CIA-39FuBar_LocationFu :
03:50.31CIA-39- fix embeds.xml (LibBabble-Spell delete)
03:50.42CryectWell what do you want it for?
03:50.47Arrowmaster`why did locationfu have babble-spell?
03:50.47CryectReally long chat messages?
03:51.08Cryectfor portals or something maybe?
03:51.21on1ytrying to make a macro for shadowbolt that uses trinkets fro alt shift and ctrl
03:51.21Arrowmaster`doubt it
03:51.22Nandinii think he probably means 255 characters per macro slot
03:51.30Cryectoh that
03:51.32on1y^
03:51.43Arrowmaster`on1y: use item:##### instead of the item names
03:51.51Cryectcould just write a lua script and have the macro call the function
03:52.08XelopherisCryect, too much work
03:52.09on1yhow do i find destruction pot
03:52.12on1yid
03:52.22Arrowmaster`wowhead
03:52.31Xelopheris22839
03:52.31Cryectany of the online databases have that stuff
03:52.37on1ythanks
03:53.02AntiarcWhere's there a list of valid addon categories?
03:53.06Antiarc"Chat" apparently doesnt' work
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03:54.12Arrowmaster`lol
03:54.34CIA-3903antiarc * r69030 10Chatterbox/ (19 files in 3 dirs): Chatterbox: Initial commit. Ace3 Prat replacement. Very lightweight - no excess RAM or CPU usage Fully configurable. Try it out.
03:54.41Xelopheriswowowow
03:55.11XelopherisNow someone just needs to make a grid frame resizer that is lightweight and I'm set
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03:57.40KaaosaChatterbox, you say..
03:57.47AntiarcThat's the name
03:58.38ckknightAntiarc: no, you beat me!
03:58.39ckknightblast.
03:58.42ckknightoh well
03:58.48Kaaosaowened :V
03:58.52KaaosaEr
03:58.54Kaaosaowned
03:58.55ckknightmeh, I hadn't started
03:58.58ckknightso no big deal
03:58.59AntiarcOwnt.
03:59.05AntiarcI wrote it this afternoon >_>
03:59.09AntiarcNot really a tough one :P
03:59.09Kaaosalol
03:59.12Cryectheh ckknight go back to your map addon
03:59.21ckknighthehe
03:59.25ckknightthe map one is a tough one
03:59.27Arrowmaster`CKKNIGHT
03:59.29Arrowmaster`PARROT
03:59.31Arrowmaster`NOW
03:59.32ckknightno U
03:59.33Xelopherisparrot works
03:59.38Arrowmaster`does not
03:59.41Cryectthe parrot on the svn works?
03:59.43Xelopheristry updating
03:59.51ckknightyea, it does, it works, hackishly, but it works
03:59.54Arrowmaster`i dont consider a 20% fps reduction as working
04:00.00ckknightyea, yea
04:00.06ckknightbut I gotta do real work first
04:00.08ckknight:-(
04:00.14CIA-3903benumbed * r69031 10DaHud/modules/Buffs/Core.lua:
04:00.14CIA-39DaHud:
04:00.14CIA-39<PROTECTED>
04:00.16ckknightat my grown-up people's job
04:00.17Cryectwhy's it a 20% frame reduction?
04:00.18dylanmGotta get that dough.
04:00.21Aeyanck, write a new guid based and multiple target supporting timer addon =P
04:00.35Arrowmaster`because i went from 13fps to 9fps in hyjal?
04:00.41CryectThough I'm about ready to ditch Pitbulll due to DogTags CPU Usage
04:00.41Arrowmaster`thats like 20% right?
04:00.48XelopherisSomething tells me arrowmaster is a warlock
04:00.56Arrowmaster`i am
04:01.00ckknightlua> 1 - 9/13
04:01.00lua_botckknight: 0.30769230769231
04:01.01Xelopherisspam seed more, IMO
04:01.03ckknight30%
04:01.17Arrowmaster`see 30%!
04:01.20Arrowmaster`even worse
04:01.21Xelopheriscam
04:01.25ckknightyea, you fix it.
04:01.28Xelopheriscan't judge an addon based on an already stressed environment
04:01.31ckknightI'm working on something
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04:08.08CIA-3903scorpio0920 * r69032 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.tw.lua:
04:08.08CIA-39AtlasLoot:
04:08.08CIA-39- Update zhTW localization.
04:08.16CIA-3903antiarc * r69033 10Chatterbox/Modules/ChatFrameBorders.lua: Chatterbox: Fix for frame border strata
04:10.20deadlockIs there an addon like Guild alliance any longer?
04:14.34Ackischaud: notor got brut finally
04:15.14AeyanPretty neat, Antiarc
04:15.39durcynAntiarc: gief timestamps
04:15.46AntiarcMan, who likes timestamps? :(
04:15.47Antiarck, fine
04:15.57AeyanSeemed to have an issue with running without externals and enabling/disabling the frames module
04:16.04AeyanBut other than that... very shiny. =)
04:16.17durcynalso, per-channel toggles for sticky
04:16.19AntiarcWhat external did it say was missing?
04:16.24AeyanLSM3
04:16.27durcynthose two things and i'll totally give you oral.
04:16.28Antiarcdurcyn: Doesn't exist, AFAIK
04:16.36AntiarcYou just set sticky on "CHANNEL"
04:16.43durcyni meant for types
04:16.46AeyanThat's usually the one that makes addons choke on externals, I've noticed
04:16.48AeyanHehe
04:16.52durcyni.e. sticky whispers make me a sad panda
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04:17.00AeyanWell, disembedded externals
04:17.00AntiarcOohh
04:17.01AntiarcI see
04:17.03AntiarcHm, okay
04:17.05AntiarcThat's easy enough
04:17.35AeyanBut yeah, nice features with an easy setup
04:17.47Aeyanand only .1mb more static memory than mumble
04:17.50ArsonideHey I have a mod that is making all of my interface solid grey and frankly I don't like it at all. I'm not sure what mod it is though, as I'm using a compilation, do you guys know? It makes the skin of my character screen, quest log, spell book, etc...solid grey.
04:17.50AeyanPretty sweet
04:18.03ckknightArsonide: Skinner
04:18.10CIA-3903antiarc * r69034 10Chatterbox/Modules/ChatFrameBorders.lua: Chatterbox: Add a "Combat Log Fix" toggle for ChatFrameBorders so you can get a nice border on the combat log.
04:18.11AeyanYeah, skinner's default settings
04:18.21ArsonideAlright, time to disable that or figure out how to make it a little less weird looking.
04:18.24ArsonideThanks
04:20.47vithosevery time someone dies, or goes offline, or comes online during combat, my framerate goes to shit for a second :(
04:22.35WobWorkYour client is in mourning
04:24.03CIA-3903antiarc * r69035 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/Timestamps.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: Add a timestamp module
04:25.15RaydenU<vithos> every time someone dies, or goes offline, or comes online during combat, my framerate goes to shit for a second :( <-- death can be hard to handle
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04:29.22Aiianehmm.. just checking, there's no way to open a target'd npcs dialogue via macro and/or api, correct?
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04:29.31durcyncorrect.
04:29.36ArsonideBah, it appears that skinner is responsible for much more than the background texture on these things..I disabled it and the entire interface screwed up.
04:29.37aestilEllipsis: are you in san fransisco still?
04:29.45ArsonideWhere's the settings for the background grey only.
04:31.47CIA-3903antiarc * r69036 10Chatterbox/Modules/StickyChannels.lua: Chatterbox: Give StickyChannels config options so you can choose which channels to stick
04:32.07VonhintenHOME`Is there a script command that can actually bring up the quest log window when you're targetting an NPC?
04:32.22AntiarcNo
04:32.36VonhintenHOME`fuck, all these jackasses crowding the badge vendor
04:33.01VonhintenHOME`can't get to the smith without attacking some douche
04:33.04VonhintenHOME`and getting owned
04:33.09Zhinjioreport them
04:33.09Arrowmasterturn on nameplates
04:33.35Zhinjiowe had someone start reporting people earlier today and the entire place cleared out.
04:33.39Zhinjiotook about 10 minutes.
04:33.54Zhinjioor... nameplates.
04:33.56Zhinjioheh
04:34.15VonhintenHOME`lol, there's so many people at this vendor... my badass new system is getting 17fps
04:35.28Aiianethe way i figure it
04:35.32Aiianeno point waiting around by the vendor
04:35.45CIA-3903grennon * r69037 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua:
04:35.45CIA-39Minimalist:
04:35.45CIA-39Don't show quest levels of 0 or -1
04:35.46VonhintenHOME`lol, I'm trying to GET the daily quest
04:35.51Aiianesince there's about a 99% chance the zone will crash
04:36.27VonhintenHOME`I dunno, garona's on a pretty beefy cluster
04:36.35ZhinjioAntiarc: stickchannels, remove buttons, mousewheel scroll, name/class coloring, timestamps, clickable invites, and URLs clickable
04:36.38Zhinjiocan it do all that?
04:36.44Aiianevon - are you alli or horde :P
04:36.44Zhinjiooh, and channel abbreviations
04:36.50VonhintenHOME`alliance
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04:37.01Aiianei'm garona horde :P trust me, the zone is going to go down
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04:37.20AntiarcYes, except for clickable invites
04:37.23Aiianeif it doesnt it'll be a miracle
04:37.29AntiarcWhat's a "clickable invite"?
04:37.37Aiianebut considering it crashed when just the shatt -> isle portal was complete.....
04:37.47Zhinjiowhen someone says "invite" in the text, it turns into a link that invites them to your group
04:37.47VonhintenHOME`Outland crashed earlier
04:37.52Aiianeand the badge vendor is a hell of a lot more interesting than the portal...
04:37.55AntiarcOh, hm
04:37.57VonhintenHOME`But, dunno if that was the cause
04:37.58AntiarcI could probably do that
04:37.59AntiarcLemme see
04:38.02Zhinjionot a huge deal, but a nicety
04:38.22ZhinjioI'm tired of ChatMod
04:38.30CIA-3903cryect * r69038 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua roster.lua):
04:38.30CIA-39Recount:
04:38.30CIA-39- Several performance optimizations (should be much lighter on performance usage when sitting around doing nothing not in a raid/party due to checking all raid/party units for info when they don't exist)
04:38.34VonhintenHOME`Woot, 100% done on Garona
04:39.08CIA-39037destiny * r69039 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua:
04:39.08CIA-39Recount:
04:39.08CIA-39- koKR typo fix
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04:43.28CIA-3903tsigo * r69040 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Make Conflag/Nova targetted on the player a LocalMessage to take advantage of Flash'N'Shake.
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04:43.51Silverstormwtb Hyhjal reset already so I can test Omen's AoE mode again :-p
04:44.11CryectDeadmines
04:44.22Cryectjust use low level AOE's
04:44.52SilverstormI could...but I'm interested in testing in the actual setting...trying to get SoC off with dozens of 17s hitting me doesn't really help
04:45.05CryectOh not a mage
04:45.43Cryectand if you are alliance use stockades (thats where I did a lot of performance testing in the past)
04:45.56WobWorkSilverstorm: sit down?
04:46.19Silverstormhmm?  how does that help?
04:46.26Cryectcould use a Hellfire instead
04:48.56Zhinjiooh
04:49.06ZhinjioAntiarc: can it move the text input box to the top or bottom as well?
04:49.12ZhinjioI think thats the only other thing
04:49.28AntiarcZhinjio: Yes
04:51.02Zhinjioperfect.
04:51.06ZhinjioI'll switch then.
04:51.29ZhinjioChatmod, while it does work, has a stupid config panel, and includes stuff I could care less about.
04:51.34Zhinjiolightweight is good.
04:51.40ZhinjioPrat was way way too bulky for me.
04:51.48WobWorkI can recall using psychic scream as a farming method in the Deadmines with my priest.
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04:52.08ZhinjioI do do addon testing in stockades on my pally
04:52.11Zhinjiogetting greens to drop
04:52.18WobWorkget a few attacking you, psychic scream, wait til they come back with friends, then holynova them down =P
04:52.32Zhinjioheh
04:52.34WobWorksaves having to run around
04:52.36Zhinjiodeadmines would be good too
04:52.47WobWorkThe layout is better for screaming =)
04:52.51Zhinjioheheee
04:53.10on1yilli 5% in a trap soul drains the raid
04:53.18on1ywhile in a fucking trap
04:53.58WobWorkYou weren't prepared for that? =)
04:53.59Silverstormthat would be the raid's fault for being in front of him....
04:54.13on1ywe werent
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04:54.17CIA-3903scorpio0920 * r69041 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:
04:54.17CIA-39Recount:
04:54.17CIA-39- Update zhTW localization.
04:54.40on1yeveryoen was behind him except the tank
04:55.16Silverstormhmm, can he turn RSTS style and do it?
04:55.32Silverstormwe've never had that, but we do always have either wound poison or aimed shot up
04:56.06buuaestil: Hey
04:56.41buuprods aestil
04:57.02Ackishttp://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/69436d1207811702-funny-strange-random-pics-grumpy-bear.jpg
04:57.05Ackiswin
04:57.17buuWIN
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04:58.22Zhinjiothat is pretty awesome.
04:58.37ZhinjioAckis: see my earlier comment about minipets?
04:58.41Zhinjiogrins.
04:59.21Ackisno...
04:59.23Ackisbeen doing twins
04:59.37Zhinjiolucky guy
05:00.13Ackis...
05:00.35Zhinjiooh, you mean in game. heh. nm.
05:01.20Ackishttp://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis
05:01.22Ackislmao
05:01.27Ackisthey are kinda cute
05:01.36Ackisso what about mini-pets?
05:02.18Zhinjiohttp://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=zhinjio
05:02.22Zhinjioadd 'em to ARL.
05:02.31Zhinjiobut you might have to change the name to Ackis Collector's List
05:02.54Ackisoh i was already thinking about doing something for mini-pets
05:03.00Zhinjio<3
05:03.15Ackismaybe update: http://www.warcraftpets.com/downloads/minipet_addon.asp
05:04.06Ackisthe problem is, frames scare me... gui's are horrible, never liked them in school, don't like them now
05:04.41vithoslol, killed brutallus but the entire raid got burned at the end
05:04.44ZhinjioI'll do your GUI for you. Its the part about addons that I like the most
05:04.50vithosand i have like 5 seconds per frame
05:04.53vithosfor 20 seconds
05:05.34ZhinjioI'm completely anal about having well designed interfaces.
05:05.46vithosyeah, i can't fucking figure out which addon is doing it
05:05.50Zhinjioit tears me up to see great function and completely unusable GUIs
05:05.59vithosi have almost everything disabled already
05:06.10vithosor wait, you're talking about something else
05:06.12vithosnm
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05:27.09Ackisquick question: can you have times displayed for combat log and nothing else?
05:27.19Ackisusing prat
05:27.43sylvanaarprat doesnt display combatlog timestamps
05:28.01Ackisrgr ty
05:30.30starlonYou can show timestamps from the default combat log.
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05:42.24AntiarcCheck out my ops plz
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05:45.30CIA-3903antiarc * r69042 10Chatterbox/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
05:45.30CIA-39Chatterbox:
05:45.30CIA-39- Added ClickInvite and TellTarget modules.
05:45.30CIA-39- Added an :Info method to modules to return...info about the module.
05:45.47ckknightick
05:45.51ckknightmethods should be verbs.
05:46.09AntiarcMeh. Probably.
05:46.12WobWorkinfos ckknight
05:46.27WobWork. o O ("bow chika bow wow")
05:46.38ckknight...?
05:46.46WobWorkI'm verbing nouns
05:47.37CIA-3903scorpio0920 * r69043 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhTW.lua:
05:47.37CIA-39RatingBuster:
05:47.37CIA-39- Update zhTW localization.
05:49.08CIA-3903antiarc * r69044 10Chatterbox/Modules/PlayerNames.lua: Chatterbox: PlayerNames DB, global -> realm
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06:04.54vithosApoco: missed badge detection doesn't work
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06:11.15CIA-3903phanx * r69046 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (7 files):
06:11.15CIA-39GridStatusHealingReduced:
06:11.16CIA-39- Added Wretched Strike.
06:11.16CIA-39- Converted to spellIDs; no more spell name localization!
06:11.16CIA-39- Moved option text localization to main file; needs esES and frFR translations.
06:11.52CIA-3903antiarc * r69047 10Chatterbox/Modules/ChannelNames.lua: Chatterbox: Mixin AceEvent into the module.
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06:20.11Crazyshots!nick Mclovin
06:20.22WobWorkyou want /nick
06:20.29Mclovinty =]
06:20.38Dranor- Remove Aran from the blacklist. People use threat on him apparently. < i see that Antiarc never suffered a 3-school silence in Aran
06:20.58WobWorkpft, the arcane missles can be eaten
06:21.19CIA-3903phanx * r69048 10GridStatusHealingReduced/README.TXT: GridStatusHealingReduced: Updated README
06:21.20Arrowmasterhes still a bit random
06:21.35Dranorit happens to have an aggro list, but only obeys it when it's 3 schools are on cooldown
06:21.40[Ammo]threat on aran?
06:21.41[Ammo]wtf
06:21.43WobWorkThen he runs up to you
06:21.46WobWorkand hits like a girl
06:21.57WobWork(a girl with two broken arms)
06:22.04Gnarfozwhy would anyone lock him out of his arcane school anywa
06:22.05Gnarfozy
06:22.16Dranorlast time it happend to me i can tell you that it wasn't like a girl
06:22.17[Ammo]wait for 5 sunders!
06:22.23[Ammo]he might fireball the tank only!
06:22.23GnarfozAM uses it's full mana on cast begin, so no gain by interrupting it ^^
06:22.29WobWorkbetter to have spares to lock out fire/frost
06:22.53WobWorkGnarfoz: well it saves damage taken, I guess
06:23.20Dranorif you have armless healers you're going to interrupt AM anyway
06:23.37WobWorkYour healers have no arms?
06:23.39WobWorkHow do they smell?
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06:24.25Gnarfozwhy would the armpits of armless people smell at all?
06:24.26Dranor"uh... did you have mortal strike?" "you were out of LoS"
06:24.42Dranorthey smell like bad excuses
06:24.47WobWorkGnarfoz: pft, you missed the bad joke =(
06:25.00Gnarfozit was B.A.D.
06:25.00WobWork"My dog has no nose!" "Really? How does he smell?" "TERRIBLE!"
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06:28.41CIA-3903ackis * r69049 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua:
06:28.41CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
06:28.41CIA-39- Fix bug with skewed textures when expanding/collapsing recipe obtain information (Thanks Zhinjio)
06:30.09Aiianehmm... anyone know the function/command (if it exists) to toggle enemy nameplates only from the chatline?
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06:30.33Ellipsishit v?
06:30.43Aiianei use it for other things.
06:30.50Gnarfozrebind it ^^
06:30.57Ellipsis^
06:30.59Aiianeim not asking for a key, im asking if there's a /run or a command line
06:31.05Aiianeplease don't answer if you don't have an answer for that
06:31.11Aiianebecause I don't want to bind it to a key
06:31.16Ellipsisif I had an answer for that I would give it
06:31.24EllipsisI'm just coming up with the best solution I can think of
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06:31.30Corgandon't really need to be a dick :<
06:32.17CorganShowFriendNameplates()
06:32.21CorganShowNameplates()
06:32.22Aiianenot trying to be corgan, just specifying the extent of my question
06:32.39Aiianedoes the second only do enemys?
06:32.44Aiianeor both, and then disable friends?
06:33.10Corganyou can only have one enabled at once, so I'm sure the second is only enemies
06:33.18Aiianeit's possible to have both on
06:33.22Corganorly
06:33.25Aiianeby default ctrl+v does that
06:33.39Corganwell, you can change Show to Hide to hide them
06:33.54Aiianenah, it looks like the 2nd only does enemys
06:33.58Aiianeyou can just call both to have both on
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06:34.47Aiianethanks corg
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06:37.16Silviu-Antiarc, around ?
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06:38.07teeneeSo, while utterly new in the channel here. Are generic newbie questions regarding wow addon programming ok to ask?
06:39.00teeneehaving some issues with CombatLogSetCurrentEntry/CombatLogGetCurrentEntry
06:39.37Nechcknteenee although no one will hang you by your toes, you may have better luck in #WoWUIDev  if you don't get a response relatively soon  ;-)
06:40.21teeneeAight, cheers. will check in there too :)
06:40.29Arrowmaster~asktoask
06:40.29purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
06:40.39AckisPurl is wise
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06:41.32Silviu-Antiarc , u should add LibSharedMedia-3.0 to OptionalDeps in ChatterBox :P
06:43.59Brunersanyone got tips to what gems to place in hunter t6 shoulders?
06:44.31ramozwhat does ChatterBox actually do?
06:45.33Fix[EJ]5agi 7 sta / 5hr 5agi, Bruners
06:46.37Ackisall 10 spirit imo
06:46.38Silviu-ramoz , an Chat addon, copylinks/copychat/fonts/telltarget .. a lot ;p http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.0
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06:47.40ZhinjioEllipsis: you awake?
06:48.27Noct1She is, I'll ping her
06:48.33Ellipsispong
06:48.33Zhinjiothats the one piece of quartz that pisses me off
06:48.46Noct1The Ace dependency?
06:48.54Zhinjiothe level of control of the mirror bar is pitiful in comarison to the rest of them
06:49.04EllipsisI agree
06:49.28Xinhuani think out of a month of wow playtime, i've seen the mirror bar less than 2 times
06:49.36Xinhuanso i don't think i care :)
06:50.05Zhinjioits not a function of whether or not it will be used
06:50.13Zhinjioits a function of being thorough when designing something.
06:50.15Zhinjiolike a UI
06:50.21BrunersFix[EJ]: im just thinking ill gain more from 2x10agi
06:50.37Fix[EJ]If you're already at the hit cap, probably
06:50.52Brunersat 142 atm
06:51.00Fix[EJ]I need to take a typography class
06:51.11Fix[EJ]I want to be able to find nice fonts for my interface :[
06:51.20CIA-3903antiarc * r69050 10Chatterbox/Chatterbox.toc: Chatterbox: OpDep LSM-3.0
06:51.27Silviu-Antiarc
06:51.36Fix[EJ]bam
06:51.37Fix[EJ]!
06:51.52Fix[EJ]ask and ye shall receive, eh Silviu :P
06:52.17[Liquidor]Morning everyone. What a nice sunny day :)
06:52.26Silviu-Yes .. i was commiting that too
06:52.27Silviu-:p
06:52.28Silviu-Transmitting file data .svn: Commit failed (details follow):
06:52.28Silviu-svn: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Chatterbox'
06:52.28Silviu-svn: Conflict at '/trunk/Chatterbox/Chatterbox.toc'
06:52.29Silviu-:D
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06:55.15CIA-3903antiarc * r69051 10Chatterbox/modules.xml: Chatterbox: Telltarget is tainting; disable until fixed.
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06:58.37CIA-3903antiarc * r69052 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/Telltarget.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: And fixed!
06:58.52Ackisit took you longer to disable it than it did to fix it :P
06:58.57AntiarcYeah well >_>
06:59.03AntiarcI wasn't sure how long it'd take to fix
06:59.14AntiarcAnd I wanted it to hit the next WAU build if I wasn't able to fix it in time
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07:00.11Ackisjust giving you a hard time, i could make an ome/threat joke if you'd like?
07:00.37ZhinjioEllipsis: do you touch Quartz at all?
07:00.54EllipsisI did once, and it scarred me for life
07:01.14ZhinjioI see.
07:01.41Zhinjiockk hasn't touched it in forever, eh?
07:01.46Ellipsiswhy would he?
07:02.08Zhinjioisn't it his mod?
07:02.10Ellipsisno
07:02.12Zhinjiooh
07:02.13Ellipsisit's nymbia's
07:02.14Zhinjioheh
07:02.23Zhinjiowhy did I think that was his.
07:02.26Zhinjiooh well, nm.
07:02.31Ellipsisbecause you're addicted to ck
07:02.48Fix[EJ]Quartz is a must for any caster :[
07:03.17ZhinjioI guess I'll just suffer not having my mirror frame anyplace nice
07:03.21Ellipsisanyhow, I don't use Quartz anymore, so don't expect me to work on any more fixes for it :P
07:03.35Ackisdid /print GetMouseFocus() get changed to not show me all that magic info?
07:03.36Fix[EJ]Is there a replacement?
07:03.48Zhinjiodo you just use the pitbull castbars?
07:03.54Ellipsisno
07:04.00ArrowmasterAckis: use /dump
07:04.01EllipsisI'm using my own mod for cast bars atm
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07:04.09ZhinjioI did use eCastingBar for awhile.
07:04.23OrionshockAckis: ace3 standalone overwrites the /print command
07:04.24Zhinjiobut that stopped working.
07:04.43Ackisthanks you two
07:06.15Fix[EJ]AzCastBar was nice
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07:06.38Fix[EJ]a basic player/target/focus castingbar that can do a safetyzone/latency thing would be cool.
07:08.27ZhinjioEllipsis: I redid my UI yet again.
07:08.32ZhinjioI'll post shortly
07:09.10Fisker-"WAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAH"
07:09.18Fisker-you killed a civilian! You are relieved of command
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07:09.20Fisker-cry moar n00bs
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07:10.05EllipsisZhinjio: needs moar pix
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07:10.35[Liquidor]Fisker-, whiner
07:11.29Fisker-i'm not the one whining [Liquidor]
07:11.45Fisker-so just because i'm pretty uninterested in this civilians hostage situation that means i can't shoot her?
07:11.51Fisker-:<
07:11.55[Liquidor]:>
07:12.07Fisker-should've waited for her to die
07:12.20[Liquidor]What game are we talking about?
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07:12.51Fisker-rainbow six
07:12.58Fisker-kinda fail
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07:14.59[Liquidor]Someone should write a new framework ! gogo
07:15.06[Liquidor]Fisker-, imba game
07:15.46BrunersZhinjio: when are we getting screenshots?
07:15.59Fix[EJ]srsly
07:16.02Fix[EJ]waiting in anticipation
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07:16.45[Liquidor]Recount is getting a lot of updates lately :)
07:19.36Zhinjiopatience. I'm cutting out relevant pieces now.
07:19.45Xinhuanonly buggy software needs frequent updates ;p
07:20.25[Liquidor]Xinhuan, hehe
07:20.35Ellipsisyeah, just look how stable WoW is
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07:21.24CIA-3903ackis * r69053 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
07:21.24CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
07:21.24CIA-39- Removed option to have unsorted in the list as well, it didn't work and since I received no bug reports about it, probably no one was using it.
07:21.42charonmorning
07:22.45EsineHey I'm having a bit trouble with Lua syntax. How do you get the n:th character of a string? a = "example"  print(a[1])  does not seem to work..
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07:23.25[Liquidor]Esine, http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial
07:23.37Esine[Liquidor], yes I've seen that page
07:23.45CIA-3903antiarc * r69054 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/Highlight.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: Add a highlight module. Currently only supports alerting via sound.
07:23.46Esinehowever it does not seem to say how to get one single character
07:24.02Esine[Liquidor], the other function documentation is nice but it's missing the basic stuff!
07:24.05[Liquidor]string.sub(s, i [, j])
07:24.12Snagolua> print(("Test"):sub(3,3))
07:24.13lua_botSnago: s
07:24.30Esine.. so I have to call a function to retrieve one character? HOW EFFICIENT!
07:24.36KaaosaWhat.
07:24.50SnagoLua kinda sucks at string manipulation
07:24.50[Liquidor]Well what did you expect?
07:24.53KaaosaTyping a[1] is the same as calling a function.
07:25.09EsineI assumed it would just read from the memory without the function overhead :/
07:25.17Kaaosaa[1] doesn't even do that.
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07:25.54[Liquidor]lua> local a = "Test"; print(a:sub(1,1));
07:25.54lua_bot[Liquidor]: T
07:26.09[Liquidor]well a:sub(1,1) isn't much of a bigger deal than a[1]
07:26.30Esine[Liquidor], right, but when you need to iterate over a string you'll get tons of sub() function calls
07:26.36Esinewhich results in great performance losses
07:26.42KaaosaNo it doesn't.
07:26.48Esinewell, theoretically anyway ;)
07:26.53[Liquidor]Not really
07:26.53EsineI know lua is slow
07:27.07KaaosaNo, I mean it's exactly the same as doing it the way you want to.
07:27.12[Liquidor]Yup
07:27.14Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/v/gaming/wow/zjui9/
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07:27.16Esinehow is that, Kaaosa?
07:27.25Zhinjiono captions, but I suspect you'll be able to work it out on your own
07:27.34Esineare we talking generally about programming and languages or just Lua?
07:27.43KaaosaBecause calling string[x] is the exact same function as calling a single char substring of that string
07:27.44Esinein Lua's case I believe you as I don't know much about the language
07:28.03EsineKaaosa, yeah, Lua's limitation
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07:28.30KaaosaNo, it's the same in almost every programming language.
07:28.49EsineKaaosa, you do know when you call a function there is extra overhead to the stack/scope change?
07:28.52ramozso
07:29.01Esinebut in many languages you can simply read from the memory address with zero overhead
07:29.08ramozis there any other profile site than ctprofiles?
07:29.21KaaosaFew of them actually read directly from memory.
07:29.33KaaosaMost call a substring or charAt function
07:29.35EsineKaaosa, I believe you're used to very high level languages then
07:29.45EsineI'm a C programmer.
07:29.52KaaosaNeat.
07:29.59CIA-3903phanx * r69055 10GridStatusHealingReduced/Core.lua: GridStatusHealingReduced: minor fix
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07:32.02NeoTronAntiarc: seems Omen is underreporting now
07:32.14NeoTronon RoS I was 140% or so of the tank w/o aggro :-/
07:32.33[Liquidor]Esine, Just insert all the letters of a string into a table and use that instead if you want it that way.
07:32.46Fix[EJ]I still can't figure out why Blizzard didn't include a default focus frame or focus castbar
07:32.54Esine[Liquidor], heh no that'd be even less efficient so I'll just do it with :sub()
07:33.01KaaosaBlizzard is kind of dumb that way.
07:33.18KaaosaA lot of the way they set up the API and default GUI is dumb :|
07:33.57ZhinjioEllipsis: what do you think?
07:35.14Fix[EJ]Zhinjio: I like the player/target frames placement
07:35.36Fix[EJ]better than the "rage" of a straight line down the bottom middle of your screen
07:35.43CIA-3903next96 * r69056 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
07:35.43CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
07:35.43CIA-39- Update locale koKR
07:35.48Fix[EJ]or left and right aligned split frames :P
07:36.08ZhinjioI was finding that when I had my button bars on top and the unit frames on bottom, I was still looking up to see if things were cooled down or not
07:36.12Zhinjioso I had to change that
07:36.17Zhinjiobrought the bars back to the bottom now
07:36.24Zhinjiokept unit frames bottom right
07:37.00CIA-3903ackis * r69057 10AckisRecipeList/ (. ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
07:37.00CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
07:37.00CIA-39- Fixed recipe aquire text overlapping on initial view
07:37.00CIA-39- Removed a lot of commented out code that wasn't needed
07:37.23Fix[EJ]I'm torn as it is right now, seeing some of these UIs makes me want to go all out and create someting fancy
07:37.38Fix[EJ]but I like not have 800 different mods installed for some reason.
07:37.41KaaosaZhinjio, I think you're crazy. :V
07:37.41Ackisquestion: why if something is local in file1.lua you can't access it in file2.lua?  Isn't it local to the add-on space?
07:37.47KaaosaIt'd take me forever to get used to that UI
07:38.03Xinhuanits local to the file
07:38.12Zhinjiothats acceptable.
07:38.17ZhinjioI've been called much worse.
07:38.38Xinhuanhence to make it accessible across files, you usually attach the object to a table, say ARL.temp = blah
07:38.44Xinhuanand access it that way
07:38.47Fix[EJ]Kaaosa: lets see yoooours!
07:38.53Xinhuanyou can have the last loaded file do ARL.temp = nil
07:38.53Kaaosa:x
07:38.59Xinhuanto remove global access
07:39.02KaaosaLemme find a good screenshot or two..
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07:40.14Fix[EJ]I want to see a thread completely dedicated to UI's of addon developers
07:40.19[Liquidor]Made 750g over 2 days with my inactive priest while playing warrior <3
07:40.35Fix[EJ]I think that would be a very...interesting thread, to say the least/.
07:41.40Ackisso say right now in file1 I have x,y,z... I just change them to ARL.x, ARL,y, ARL.z... which means I have less pollution of the global namespace at the minimum
07:42.24[Liquidor]Yes Ackis
07:42.42Ackisfor some reason I thought I tried that and it screwed shit up before
07:42.56Zhinjioposted to the monster ui thread. gah
07:43.02[Liquidor]Don't forget to localize it :) unless someone else needs them
07:44.02Kurax_Does Texture widget got some function can do a flip?
07:44.49Kurax_Or there have some way to make a texture flip
07:45.05Zhinjioyeah
07:45.14Zhinjioyou can play with the texcoord's to make the bottom the top
07:45.17Zhinjioor any combination thereof
07:45.58Kurax_By using :SetTexCoord() right?
07:46.06Zhinjioyupo
07:46.14Kurax_Ok
07:46.21Zhinjiothere may be other ways too
07:46.39on1y2 destro lock 1 affliction per raid
07:46.41on1ythoughts
07:46.47Kaaosahttp://kaaosa.com/wow/ui there :o
07:47.28[Liquidor]Kurax_, obj:SetTexCoord(ULx,ULy,LLx,LLy,URx,URy,LRx,LRy);
07:47.45Kurax_Yeah, trying it
07:47.56CIA-3903antiarc * r69058 10Chatterbox/ (Chatterbox.lua Modules/Highlight.lua): Chatterbox: Add a standalone config button for people without BetterBlizzOptions or equivalent installed.
07:48.02Zhinjionice
07:48.20Zhinjiomy only issue with it is that I can't stand having stuff in the middle of my screen
07:48.23ZhinjioI hate huds
07:48.27Zhinjiodon't want unit frames there
07:48.28Zhinjioetc
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07:48.44Fix[EJ]I see you are a fan of Hal's UI, Kaaosa :P
07:49.09KaaosaI used to have the unit frames at the bottom in the center, but my chat frame was too small :P
07:49.31KaaosaAnd yeah, I drew a lot from his UI
07:49.54Brunersmore ui shots please
07:50.02baer_can somebody help me identify a font?
07:50.15baer_http://pwnyhof.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/wowscrnshot_020308_234250.jpg
07:50.28baer_what kinda font is used in the chat window in the lower left corner?
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07:50.57Fix[EJ]See, thats the one unitframe placement that irks me
07:51.07Fix[EJ]it looks SO terrible if you have no target
07:51.32baer_Fix[EJ]: you are talking about the unitframe in the screenshot?
07:51.33charonbaer_: no, but the entire channel clicking that link will help you identify that server's bandwidth ;)
07:51.44Fix[EJ]baer_: yeah
07:51.49CIA-3903antiarc * r69059 10Chatterbox/Modules/ChatLink.Lua: Chatterbox: Short-circuit ChatLink parses on no text.
07:52.07baer_charon: consider it a bandwidth-test. :D
07:52.38baer_Fix[EJ]: i guess the frame right of the "itro"-frame shows his target
07:52.56Fix[EJ]err, yes
07:52.58Fix[EJ]but i mean
07:53.04Fix[EJ]when he has no target or tot
07:53.10Fix[EJ]his UI looks completely lopsided
07:53.11Zhinjiobaer_: my eyes can't even see that. too small.
07:53.16Zhinjiolemme try on bigger monitor.
07:53.25KaaosaOh, Zhinjio, before I forget, what's the addon that puts all your minimap buttons in that bar on the side?
07:53.29baer_Fix[EJ]:  wouldn't suprise me, if he got not ToT. ;)
07:53.48Fix[EJ]im pretty sure that middle frame is ToT
07:53.51ZhinjioKaaosa: Minimap Button Frame
07:54.35KaaosaAh, thanks
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07:55.24Zhinjiobaer_: no idea.
07:55.30Zhinjiotoo small to really make it out.
07:55.54baer_damn. :D
07:56.03baer_it looks pretty fine on my display.
07:56.31baer_could it be "Francophil Sans"?
07:56.55XinhuanAntiarc, do you have a keybind for /tt
07:57.35Xinhuani'm looking for a button i can press to open a /w <target> editbox, so i don't actually have to type /tt
07:57.52Fix[EJ]Make a macro!
07:57.52AntiarcXinhuan: No keybind, I can add one
07:57.59AntiarcBut a macro works better :)
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07:58.14ZhinjioAntiarc: how'd the clickable invite thinger look?
07:58.17Xinhuanyou can copy the ace3 config keybinding method i have implemented in Routes
07:58.19Zhinjionot that its a show stopper.
07:59.16AntiarcZhinjio: It's in
07:59.21Zhinjiosweet!
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07:59.35Fix[EJ]Does Chatterbox have any dependancies/libraries?
07:59.51ZhinjioI'll try it out now
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08:00.04[Liquidor]Does CIA-39 got any cmds?
08:00.22CIA-3903antiarc * r69060 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (5 files): Chatterbox: Short-circuit on other nils, too.
08:00.23AntiarcFix[EJ]: Ace3 and LibSharedMedia-3.0
08:01.50Zhinjioduh....
08:01.54Zhinjiois it not on WAU?
08:02.14Zhinjiooh, lemme update. nm.
08:02.15AntiarcIt's on wowace at least
08:02.17AntiarcI can't speak to WAU
08:02.31Zhinjioits there.
08:02.35ZhinjioI just hadn't updated.
08:02.38AntiarcWait about 5 min
08:02.40[Liquidor]http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Chatterbox/
08:02.41AntiarcTo let that last commit build in
08:02.52Zhinjiook
08:02.52[Liquidor]Revision 69060: /trunk/Chatterbox
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08:04.56BrunersFix[EJ]: show us your ui
08:05.59Fix[EJ]haha
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08:06.18Fix[EJ]right now its pretty much default with quartz/omen only installed
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08:06.23Fix[EJ]default UI is like woah
08:06.41Fix[EJ]but every day for the past...4 days or so, I've had a new UI.
08:06.47Fix[EJ]Goddamn OCD about it, I tell 'ya.
08:07.31ZhinjioI go through phases
08:07.37Zhinjiousually after major patches
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08:07.47[Liquidor]Zhinjio, you're missing a ChatColor.lua :)
08:07.51ZhinjioI nitpick for 2-3 weeks, and then don't touch it for months
08:08.04Zhinjio[Liquidor]: huh?
08:08.18[Liquidor]oh
08:08.20[Liquidor]not yours :)
08:08.56ZhinjioWAU still shows 69054 as current. blah
08:10.16Fix[EJ]Herem one second, I'll show you my past three UIs :P
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08:10.54Zhinjiothis was from six months ago: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/v/gaming/wow/zjui6/
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08:11.22Zhinjiodidn't stay with that one long.
08:11.51Fix[EJ]http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fixuiv1rw5.jpg
08:11.54Fix[EJ]theres oneeee...
08:12.56Fix[EJ]http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fixuiv2ok5.jpg
08:12.58Fix[EJ]twooo
08:13.06Antiarcrofl
08:13.17AntiarcOne of my guildmates wants Chatterbox to synch versions
08:13.22AntiarcAnd notify you when you are out of date
08:13.37Fisker-attacks
08:13.42Fix[EJ]and http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fixuiv3dq0.jpg
08:13.50Fix[EJ]like I said, I'm very OCD
08:13.55Brunershttp://ui.ipwn.se/i/198.jpg <- mine
08:14.08Fix[EJ]Now I'm in the "addons are terrible and slow you down too much phase"
08:14.16Fix[EJ]So I'm going with minimalist-everything.
08:14.28Fix[EJ]unitframes in the upper left hand corner sucks though
08:15.31Zhinjiook, 69060 now. updated and trying it out.
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08:16.26ZhinjioI'm still kinda pissed that blizz hasn't gotten the default chat frame to save settings properly
08:16.38Zhinjioyou'd think they would have tested that a bit more thoroughly
08:17.26[Liquidor]Fix[EJ], sadly in order to go minimalistic you need quite a bunch of addons -.-
08:17.49Fix[EJ]I mean in the sense of no addons whatsoever
08:17.50[Liquidor]Unless you use my addons simply modifing the defailt ui instead of hiding and creating :)
08:18.22Fix[EJ]I have BigWigs, Omen, oRA2 and Quartz installed right now
08:20.35Fix[EJ]Iand I think I'm going to nuke oRA2...wtf does a mage need ora for!
08:20.36ZhinjioAntiarc: that is, quite simply: perfect.
08:20.40Zhinjiothank you.
08:21.33Zhinjiocan I disable text fading?
08:21.36Orionshockanyone here use flagRSP2?
08:22.01AntiarcZhinjio: Yay!
08:22.08AntiarcZhinjio: Oh, I don't have a module for that
08:22.11AntiarcLet me see what it'd take
08:22.41ZhinjioI'm getting a weird behavior with the minichat button. lemme see whats going it
08:22.43Zhinjioer, doing it
08:22.45AntiarcHaha, that's easy
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08:22.57BrunersFix[EJ]: main tank targets, ready checs, resistance checks etc
08:23.30Fix[EJ]Never cared about MTT, ready checks I click yes on...resistance checks are for people who don't trust their raid :P
08:24.04KaaosaIs there some way to resize the Interface Options window? :o
08:24.12CIA-3903neotron 07dev * r69061 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Some fixes and tweaks (starts/ends raid correctly, less spammy msgs). Added cmd line for wipe: /md wipe.
08:24.21OrionshockKaaosa: yes
08:24.32Orionshockthere is one Antiarc made...
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08:24.44AntiarcBetterBlizzOptions
08:24.47KaaosaAh
08:24.49Orionshock^^ there u go
08:25.20ZhinjioAntiarc: seems a waste to have a module with a single config checkbox. maybe a "General" with some of the more common things lumped together?
08:25.25Zhinjioshrugs. no big deal.
08:25.26OrionshockBBO + Ace3Gui in InterfaceWindow = sex
08:25.59AntiarcEh. Maybe. I dunno.
08:26.08AntiarcModules aren't exactly expensive
08:26.09Ellipsisfacepalms
08:26.15Roblibobtank question: If you taunt, do you get the same amount of threat as the highest on the threat table or the same threat as the one currently having aggro?
08:26.27KaaosaPerson with aggro, I think
08:26.40Ackishttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177
08:26.42Roblibobthanks.
08:27.33CIA-3903dodge * r69062 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed support for custom color in cyCircled skins
08:28.13ZhinjioAntiarc: I'm getting a conflict when using your addon + minichat.
08:28.23Zhinjiothe button that it creates that allows you to minimize the chat frame is no longer clickable.
08:28.24AntiarcZhinjio: What's it do?
08:28.33AntiarcHrm.
08:28.33ZhinjioI can't figure out why though
08:28.39AntiarcI'm not hiding anything
08:28.48ZhinjioI tried playing with insets and all that... no change.
08:28.59Zhinjiomaybe its just a strata thing? I don't know.
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08:29.14AntiarcI'll hafta take a look at it
08:29.16Elsiamorning
08:29.44Zhinjioyou said the fade stuff was easy, tho, eh?
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08:32.05AntiarcYeah
08:32.08AntiarcTesting it now
08:34.09JyggaBruners can you get more than grey fish out of that "lake" ?
08:34.10Fix[EJ]I think I need to re-do my actionbars and keybindings
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08:34.15Fix[EJ]they seem pretty in-efficient
08:34.21BrunersJygga: fishing quest
08:34.37Jyggaoh ye forgot about thatone ;P
08:34.38Brunersbut you can get some barbed grills
08:34.40Zhinjioit seems like the top edge of the border is like... 3 or 4 pixels too high on all my frames.
08:34.56Ellipsisoh noes, teh pixelz
08:35.13ZhinjioEllipsis: you should know by now. I'm all about the pixels.
08:35.16ZhinjioEspecially your pixels.
08:35.27JyggaBruners what tooltip addon do you use?
08:35.30Zhinjioheavens, was that out loud?
08:35.37BrunersJygga: cowtip
08:35.46Jyggais that even a tooltip to the right ?
08:36.22Brunersit is
08:36.23Jyggaapparently
08:36.39EllipsisZhinjio: my pixels bring all the boys to my yard
08:37.24Zhinjioapparently.
08:37.37CIA-3903bam * r69063 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua:
08:37.37CIA-39ItemPrice-1.1:
08:37.37CIA-39- Price updates (from US armory).
08:37.49CIA-3903antiarc * r69064 10Chatterbox/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
08:37.49CIA-39Chatterbox:
08:37.49CIA-39- Add a Chat Fading module.
08:37.49CIA-39- More friendly module names.
08:38.43Fix[EJ]oh man
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08:38.56Fix[EJ]someone just reminded me of DiscordUnitFrames
08:39.13Fix[EJ]the horrid memories oh god help
08:39.13ZhinjioI still have a forum post where I linked a bunch of old UF images.
08:39.18Zhinjioall the early ones were DUF
08:40.16Zhinjiohttp://tinyurl.com/3uph3z
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08:41.01Ellipsiskeylogger!
08:41.05Fix[EJ]oh no
08:41.14Fix[EJ]you ass Zhinjio, now i have to read that
08:41.19Fix[EJ]let me finish my dailies first at least!
08:41.23Zhinjiohahahaa
08:41.45Fix[EJ]Like, that probably will help me make up my UI
08:41.50Fix[EJ]once again, for the 90th time in 4 days
08:41.51Fix[EJ]-.-
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08:43.03WobinZhinjio: That looks really well written
08:43.05Wobinbravo =)
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08:44.10ZhinjioWobin: thanks.
08:44.14ZhinjioAntiarc: http://tinyurl.com/4dqc9w
08:44.23Zhinjiothats what I was talking about with the top edge being a bit high
08:44.40AntiarcHm, okay.
08:44.42Zhinjio(you can also see the mininchat button)
08:44.57ZhinjioI wonder if your just covering it somehow
08:45.03Zhinjioyou're
08:45.29ramozAntiarc: is there a timestamp module for ChatterBox?
08:45.40Antiarcyes
08:46.02ramozsweet
08:46.52buuaestil: Hey you alive?
08:48.07CIA-3903antiarc * r69065 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (ChannelNames.lua ChatFrameBorders.lua):
08:48.07CIA-39Chatterbox:
08:48.07CIA-39- Allow renaming of standard channels
08:48.07CIA-39- Fix upper anchors for non-combatlog chatframeborders
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08:49.13Arrowmaster*sign* arguing with an idiot on another network whos saying raid arrays make harddrives more prone to failure
08:49.15ZhinjioI should just keep WAU open all the time now.
08:49.21Arrowmaster*sigh*
08:50.21ZhinjioArrowmaster: lolz.
08:50.27Zhinjiothats hilarious.
08:50.40Wobin...
08:50.43CIA-3903antiarc * r69066 10Chatterbox/Modules/ChatFading.lua: Chatterbox: Fix incorrect comment on fading module.
08:50.47Wobinbrilliant
08:50.50Wobinhire him immediately =P
08:51.16Zhinjiodrives fail. get used to it.
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08:51.42ZhinjioI think the most I ever saw in one day ... storage cabinet failures aside... was about 18 drives.
08:51.45Arrowmastertell me about it, ive got over 1TB of failed drives
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08:52.11Zhinjiobut we always had plenty on hand.
08:52.14Zhinjioso *shrug*
08:52.36Zhinjiobut that was in hundreds of TB, so its actually still a pretty darn low rate of fail
08:52.54Ellipsismuch lower than my rate of fail :<
08:53.02Zhinjiohehehee
08:53.24ZhinjioAntiarc: quit updating! Now I need wait another 5 minutes *grin*
08:53.31AntiarcHahah :P
08:53.35AntiarcYou could just check out from SVN!
08:53.37ZhinjioI mean.... go ahead. I'm sorry.
08:53.40Zhinjioyeah, I should.
08:53.45Zhinjiobut I'm lazy
08:53.57Ellipsis~lart Zhinjio
08:53.57purldeclares Zhinjio a moron
08:53.58Zhinjioscrew it. I will ....
08:54.02Ellipsisaww, that's mean, purl
08:54.59Zhinjiois checkout functionally equivalent to an export?
08:55.07Arrowmasterno
08:55.08evlno
08:55.15evlwikipedia/svn
08:55.18charonArrowmaster: a raid is bound to have more drive failures than a single disk. not that it matters obviously, but you need to be precise ;)
08:55.48Arrowmastercharon: single disk is bound to have more data loss though
08:55.56Zhinjiocharon: an n-disk raid array will not have a higher failure rate than n individual disks.
08:55.58Arrowmasterunless your one of those morons who uses raid0
08:56.07AckisI'm one of those idiots
08:56.18Arrowmaster~lart Ackis
08:56.18purlchops Ackis in half with a free AOL CD
08:56.43Ackishome pc, what do i care for redundancy?
08:56.47Fix[EJ]Zhinjio: you should have thrown something up about memory consumption vs. cpu usage, in terms of addons
08:57.07Arrowmasteri care about redundancy on my home pc
08:57.08Ellipsisyour mom is redundant
08:57.12Fix[EJ]I still don't understand any of it :[
08:57.25Arrowmasterdont have a raid array yet but im building a file server
08:57.28EllipsisFix[EJ]: all you need to know is don't worry about it :P
08:57.47ZhinjioFix[EJ]: in my Treatise, you mean?
08:58.01Brunersthe naga quest is a pain at this hour
08:58.08Fix[EJ]Yeah
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08:58.25Zhinjioit isn't complete. Like nearly everything I start with good intentions, it wasn't ever finished.
08:58.37Fix[EJ]It seems like half the people think higher MB usage = worse, which isn't always the case (...right?)
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08:58.55ZhinjioAntiarc: border is perfect now.
08:59.08EllipsisFix[EJ]: all other things being equal, it is; but all other things are rarely equal
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08:59.22Ellipsisagain, average users should just not worry about it at all
08:59.30Zhinjiomemory usage is not generally bad... swapping is bad.
08:59.45Ellipsisunless you're having performance issues, those are just a bunch of arbitrary numbers that are not important at all
08:59.48Zhinjioif you have sufficient memory to run everything at once and not swap... there's really no extravagant cost.
09:00.11Zhinjioit still behooves addon (and all) devs to be memory efficient.
09:00.20Fix[EJ]haha
09:00.39Fix[EJ]Like I said before, I have an OCD about my UI
09:00.39Zhinjiobut yeah... that is usually not considered until Xinhuan attacks your code and rips it a new one.
09:00.51Fix[EJ]one of those things is memory efficiency
09:00.51EllipsisXinhuan is scary
09:00.57Zhinjio<3
09:01.37Fix[EJ]its why I'm scared to use most mods
09:01.39Xinhuanthere is *usually* a tradeoff between code speed vs memory usage
09:01.46Ellipsisspeak of the devil
09:01.47Ellipsishides
09:01.50Xinhuanif this trade off doesn't exist, then its a badly coded addon
09:02.51Xinhuanto improve speed, you usually need to use more memory, and vice versa, the trick is to find a balance between them
09:03.07Xinhuanif you can improve one or the other without sacrificing the other, then the code is bad to begin with
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09:05.05Zhinjiodarnit, I thought i had it.
09:05.21Ellipsispets Kurax
09:05.25Zhinjioit looked like the button was not being paid attention to because the frame was unlocked, and grabbing there was ther "resizer"
09:05.35Zhinjiobut: fail. I locked it, and it still didn't miniumize
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09:05.53CIA-3903ackis * r69067 10AckisRecipeList/ (16 files in 3 dirs):
09:05.53CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
09:05.53CIA-39- Started some more filtering stuff
09:05.53CIA-39- Fixed gnomish/goblin engineering stuff
09:05.53CIA-39- Cleaned up the global namespace a but... stuff
09:06.29KuraxHow can you dynamic change some subitems in Ace3 config dialog? The "args" do not accept a function like Rock does.
09:06.49Xinhuanelaborate kurax?
09:06.57Ellipsismaybe modify the table directly?
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09:07.22Ellipsislike config.whatever.args[k] = v
09:07.22ZhinjioAntiarc: if I choose background color to 100% opaque, I can still see through it?
09:07.24Fix[EJ]Xinhuan: huh, I never thought about it like that
09:07.28Fix[EJ]It makes a lot of sense though
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09:07.51Xinhuangenerally speaking, modifying the table will do
09:08.07Zhinjionot that I'm complaining ultimately, since I never want full opacity.
09:08.12KuraxHmm
09:09.06AntiarcZhinjio: Because of the background texture you picked. Try changing it to solid
09:09.15KuraxThen use NotifyChange() to notify the dialog to refresh?
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09:09.37XinhuanZhinjio, the texture used is transparent itself, so 100% opacity on a semi-transparent BLP/TGA is of course still semi-transparent ;p
09:09.40Zhinjiooh, duh.
09:09.41Zhinjioyeah
09:09.53Xinhuanyep kurax
09:10.00Zhinjiothanks.
09:10.07Groktarso we gkicked our terribad enhance shaman
09:10.07FiredancerAntiarc: The ChatCopy module won't disable for me. I unchecked it, but it was still showing the icons in the bottom corner. Tried a UI reload and and exit/relog ... still there. Used both the Blizz interface dialog and the standalone config too.
09:10.17Zhinjiodig it.
09:10.19Groktarand are replacing him with someone's alt
09:10.20KuraxOk, thanks
09:10.21Groktarwho is in blues
09:10.21Xinhuanif the config is changed from within a function callback in ace3's diaglog, then the NotifyChange() isn't needed as ace3 config does it automatically
09:10.22Zhinjiovery awesome mod.
09:10.26Groktarkekek
09:10.45buuaestil: Prod 2!
09:11.11Ellipsisbuu, I'm betting he's asleep by now
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09:11.34Groktarhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Vocab
09:11.39Groktarwe're taking this guy to brutallus
09:11.50Ellipsiscan I come, too?
09:11.53AntiarcFiredancer: Aha, okay, I'll fix that
09:11.59Groktarour other shaman was in full t6
09:12.01Groktarhe was that bad
09:12.24Groktarhe also misses every single portal on kalecgos!
09:12.30KuraxXinhuan: Which kind of function callback?
09:12.42Fix[EJ]Groktar: He's got a Shard of Contempt...he's good in my book.
09:12.43Xinhuana set= function
09:12.59Xinhuanis a function callback
09:13.00KuraxI see
09:13.12Xinhuanif u changed anything there, its refreshed automatically
09:13.34Groktarhehe
09:13.36Firedancerokie :D
09:13.45Groktarwe've been running him through everything to try to get him geared
09:13.46buuEllipsis: =[
09:13.52Groktardid bt/hyjal this week
09:14.00Ellipsis~comfort buu
09:14.01purlThere, there, buu.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
09:14.01KalrothGroktar: Why gear him up if he's bad? ;)
09:14.08Groktarnono
09:14.10Kuraxlicks Ellipsis and then lurks
09:14.19Ellipsispets Kurax gently
09:14.21JY`Groktar: i need you to gear my chaman !
09:14.25Groktarhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Alahw
09:14.27Groktarthis was the bad shaman
09:14.30AntiarcHoly crap
09:14.36AntiarcI just found a nasty memory leak in Omen
09:14.36Groktarhe did 1k dps our last night on brut
09:14.40Groktarhe is the gkicked one
09:14.46Groktarvocab is the alt we're gearing up
09:14.48AntiarcUpdateDisplay creates two tables per frame per call
09:14.53Ellipsisim in ur threat meter, leakin ur memoriez
09:14.54AntiarcWeeee're gonna factor that out.
09:14.58JY`Groktar: you know why his dps was terrible so ?
09:15.13CIA-3903elsia * r69068 10Recount/GUI_Config.lua:
09:15.13CIA-39Recount:
09:15.13CIA-39- The config testbar no longer scales with bar height setting.
09:15.14Groktarbecause he has no idea how to gear or play his class?
09:15.17Groktaror play wow at all?
09:15.35JY`mmh
09:15.38ZhinjioAntiarc: the minichat button is being set : MiniB[i]:SetFrameStrata("Low")
09:15.40JY`he was afk ?
09:15.42Zhinjiodoes that help at all?
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09:16.04JY`actually because with autoattack, i'll do more dps than him
09:16.21Groktarhe's also one of the people that dies on 100% of mother shaz ports
09:16.30Fix[EJ]...
09:16.31JY`mmh
09:16.33Groktar(actually he was at 1200dps, but getting chain drums and heroisms)
09:16.50AntiarcZhinjio: Not really. Those frames shouldn't even intercept mouse clicks :/
09:16.50Fix[EJ]This guy sounds like a classic faceroller
09:16.51Groktarwith an ms warrior and feral druid in group
09:16.52JY`maybe he forgot WF on weapons
09:17.10JY`maybe he didnt knew wf existed
09:17.15Groktarhehe
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09:17.32Shotski"I don't need all of these buffs!"
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09:17.35Shotski*right click spree*
09:17.37Groktarya, so we're transferring vocab to a new account
09:17.55CIA-3903ackis * r69069 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
09:17.55CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
09:17.55CIA-39- Recipes that are filtered now are not shown in total recipes by default
09:17.56CIA-39- Commented out Blizz GUI stuff as it's not implemented fully yet
09:17.57Groktarand giving it to a guy that used to play pally on horde side
09:18.01Groktarbut played shaman pre-tbc
09:18.39Groktaroh oh
09:18.53Groktaralahw usually likes to use his heroism when illidan is at 31%
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09:19.21Ackis...
09:19.30Ackisi use my spirit trinkets then
09:19.35Groktarpro idea
09:19.36JY`so the urban legend of noob on illidan is true ?
09:19.47Groktaryes
09:19.51ShotskiI just spent 20 minutes attempting to figure out why my frame wasn't working ebfore I realised I hadn't saved my toc file :(
09:19.52Groktarhe does it about half the time
09:19.58JY`they should have made a cthun like fight
09:20.13GrumGroktar: sigh? O.o
09:20.35JY`because cthun was the fight you couldnt succed without having all players play perfect
09:20.40Zhinjio*grump*... ok.
09:21.00Grumeven on lvl70 cthun is quite a pain hehe
09:21.09Groktarreally?
09:21.13Grumespecially if you are there with 15 people that never saw it ;)
09:21.20Groktarwe've one shot it every time we've done it
09:21.26JY`like the way a people not doing his job a one side can kill somebody at the other side
09:21.30Grumand start rolling on the floor when DBM says: tentacle rape party!
09:21.39Groktarhehe
09:21.44Groktari did die in the stomach
09:21.47Groktarwas on my priest
09:21.53Groktartentacle died right as i got ported
09:21.57Grumwe still killed him in 1 shot ofc, but it was funny :D
09:21.58Zhinjioquestion: does the default UI maintain a chat window history of the last X commands you typed? or was my old addon doing that?
09:22.02Groktarso i bubbed and ran to the platform
09:22.05Groktarand just died
09:22.07Azurewrathtentacle rape party was stolen from BigWigs ;p
09:22.07Groktarwas /boggle
09:22.18Groktari still don't understand
09:22.19ZhinjioI used to be able to hit up arrow and down arrow and scroll through my last N commands
09:22.27ncd|Aileenheh, but is has become harder to pull him from outside
09:22.28AntiarcHm
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09:22.37ncd|Aileen"oops, I just accepted the port with active autowalk"
09:22.39ncd|Aileen._.
09:22.42magmathe killer feature of chat history ...
09:22.43AntiarcZhinjio: Works for me
09:22.47Zhinjiohmm.
09:23.02magmais to remember what was in the input box before pressing up or down
09:23.17magmaso that if you type something and accidentally hit up, you can just hit down and get it back
09:23.20Zhinjioah
09:23.25ZhinjioI had edit box polish off
09:23.40JY`<PROTECTED>
09:23.44JY`<PROTECTED>
09:23.47JY`<PROTECTED>
09:23.51AeyanAw, damn it
09:24.02AeyanThat won't be nearly as fun
09:24.03AeyanHehe
09:24.07JY`:)
09:24.14Ackiswhere are those from JY?
09:24.22JY`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/3642094382.htm?posts=1
09:24.32EllipsisZhinjio: default UI stores those things but you have to use alt+up/down to cycle through them
09:24.32JY`good rss are the key
09:24.53AeyanNo more mana biscuit boss pulls
09:25.02Zhinjiowhen I hover over that button, and try to get the frame name, it returns: ChatFrame1ResizeTopRight
09:25.21Ellipsisthat's the invisible resize corner for the chat frame
09:25.27Zhinjioyup,I know.
09:25.33Zhinjioah well, I futz with it later.
09:25.35Ellipsiswhich means either the button is getting put behind that, or it's not enabling mouse input
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09:25.55JY`mmmh
09:26.11JY`GM can do RP event on RP server if a player ask it
09:26.14JY`now
09:26.22JY`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3635673603&postId=36413664940&sid=2#9
09:26.25JY`(french)
09:26.37JY`En effet, depuis quelques mois à présent, des Maîtres de jeu apparaissent et font des courtes sessions RP avec les joueurs (entre 30 minutes et 1heure en moyenne). Il est dommage que les joueurs ne viennent pas sur les forums pour raconter leurs aventures cette fois-ci.
09:27.06JY`For some times now, games master appears and do short RP session with player ( bewteen 30min and 1h)
09:27.08CIA-3903antiarc * r69070 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (ChatFading.lua CopyChat.lua EditBox.lua):
09:27.08CIA-39Chatterbox:
09:27.08CIA-39- Make CopyChat respect enable/disable
09:27.08CIA-39- Make the editbox freely movable
09:28.42CIA-3903antiarc * r69071 10Chatterbox/Modules/PlayerNames.lua: Chatterbox: Protect a few potential nil indexing errors
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09:29.58Eter1is there any os.clock equivalent that can be used inside wow?
09:30.18CIA-3903ackis * r69072 10AckisRecipeList/ACE3/:
09:30.18CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
09:30.18CIA-39- Ace3 test copy
09:30.45Ackisyes I used all caps
09:30.46Ackissue me
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09:31.44ZhinjioEtern: date( "*t" )
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09:31.52Zhinjiois that what you're looking for?
09:32.43Eternmaybe. I want to see how much time is spent inside my functions
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09:35.40Nandinii think GetTime() is an alias to os.time
09:36.14Nandini~api GetTime()
09:36.15purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTime()
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09:36.35Nandini~api GetTime
09:36.36purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTime
09:36.38Nandinithere you go
09:37.18sbCryect: mh, Recount2/Configs isn't on SVN :p
09:37.33Nandini~lua print GetTime()
09:38.01Zhinjiolua>
09:38.11Grumlua> print GetTime()
09:38.12lua_botGrum: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'GetTime'
09:38.21Grumfail!
09:38.41Nandinilua> a = GetTime(); print a
09:38.41lua_botNandini: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'a'
09:38.53Nandiniguess it doesn't know the wow alias
09:39.20AntiarcFiredancer: Fixed that problem
09:39.21Nandinii'm pretty sure GetTime() is just os.time
09:39.36Ellipsisno, time() is os.time()
09:39.39charonlua> print(GetTime())
09:39.39lua_botcharon: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value)
09:39.45FiredancerI saw the commit :) thanks! had to reboot the computer >.>
09:39.51Antiarclua> print(os.time())
09:39.51lua_botAntiarc: 1207906791
09:42.01CIA-3903antiarc * r69073 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/Justify.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: Add text justification module
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09:46.37Kalrothlua> print("( . Y . )")
09:46.37lua_botKalroth: ( . Y . )
09:46.40Kalroth*teehee*
09:46.47[SW]Dodgelol
09:47.03[SW]Dodgemhm
09:47.11Kalrothlua_bot is dirty!
09:47.19[SW]Dodgelua> print("hello\nworld")
09:47.19lua_bot[SW]Dodge: helloworld
09:47.22[SW]Dodgeböö
09:47.24[SW]Dodge:(
09:47.26Stanzilla( . )  ( . )
09:47.28Stanzilla:O
09:48.08CIA-3903pettigrow * r69074 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update
09:48.38XinhuanAntiarc
09:48.43Xinhuanyou know MobSpells?
09:48.48AntiarcYes
09:48.51AntiarcI have heard of it
09:48.57Xinhuanits recording that friendly NPCs are capable of casting LifeBloom
09:49.06AntiarcBecause technically, they cast it
09:49.09AntiarcI don't know how to get around that
09:49.11Xinhuanjust because druids cast it on say an Ironforge Guard
09:49.18Xinhuanwell... just exclude that spell maybe?
09:49.32Xinhuanand perhaps PoM
09:49.36charonlogs onto Xinhuan's realm and spams his MobSpells DB with lifebloom
09:49.43Arrowmasterdid they chagne SoC or does it do that too still
09:49.48Xinhuani'm not sure lol
09:50.05Xinhuanbut it doesn't really sound right does it?
09:50.09Arrowmasteroh yeah and unstable affliction
09:50.44Groktarspeaking of UA
09:50.53Groktari miss asking for cleanses on magtheridon trash
09:50.56Xinhuanthere's very few specific cases like these and i think you can code in to ignore some of these spells i think
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09:52.49sbAntiarc: combat log fix doesnt work on frames 2-7
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09:53.26Arrowmastercombatlogfix? is that like chatsettingsfix?
09:53.35NandiniXinhuan: there's very few specific cases like these, and i think you can remember to ignore them yourself :P
09:53.53Xinhuanstabs Nandini with a pillow
09:54.05Arrowmasterspecific cases that can apply to every mob....
09:54.28Arrowmasterneeds a blacklist
09:55.11Xinhuan^
09:55.13Nandinior you can just delete it in the rare cases when you find it?
09:56.09Xinhuani'm pretty sure i'm not going to browse through 1000 mobs to delete Unstable Affliction ;p
09:56.13Ackiswell i'll be damned, conversion to Ace3 was a lot less painful
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09:57.19Antiarcsb: elaborate
09:57.21KaaosaA lot less painful than what? >_>
09:57.27Ackisthan i expected
10:00.22KaaosaOh
10:00.22KaaosaThen that's good
10:00.28ZhinjioYay! Bid filtering is working.
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10:01.26GagorianAckis: Did you use any instructions/page?
10:01.26GagorianOr just looked it up
10:01.26Nandinihmm unstable affliction doesn't appear for any of my mobs in mobspells except for ones that actually cast it
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10:01.26sbAntiarc: mh - i cant see my combat log buttons anymore, but they still seem to work (click works)
10:01.27AckisGagorian: I used the partial welcome home 3 tutorial
10:02.53GagorianAckis: I see. I'll have to look into it then!
10:03.09EllipsisNandini: if you're a UA lock (or party with one) and a mob dispells one of your UAs, then it will show that mob as casting UA
10:03.11Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon
10:03.27Ellipsisthat's not a common occurrence, though
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10:05.23SnagoGagorian: It's an incomplete rewrite of the Ace2 tutorial. I hope to have it complete (or at least at a working, followable state) in a few days..
10:05.48Nandiniin that case, i think it would be GOOD to know that a mob can dispell UA, since that is usually a good thing :)
10:05.49ramozGagorian: wtb data for Cannibalize
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10:08.22GagorianSnago: Yeah, it's a bit lacking at the moment
10:10.01Zyndromebutton:Hide() will do for now , sorry Antiarc but copy text button is meh :P
10:10.03CIA-3903antiarc * r69075 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (ChannelNames.lua Timestamps.lua):
10:10.03CIA-39Chatterbox:
10:10.03CIA-39- Add format and color selection to timestamps
10:10.28CIA-3903elsia * r69076 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua:
10:10.28CIA-39Recount:
10:10.28CIA-39- Offer function that other addons can use to get Recount's merged-pet damage/dps calculation. Mostly for FuBar_RecountFu.
10:11.25ramozAntiarc: i really do love you - may i haev your babies please?
10:11.38Antiarcramoz: My wife would probably protest
10:11.53ramozDon't worry, I'll fix that. :)
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10:12.18Ellipsisramoz: she's actually pretty tough to kill
10:12.18sbAntiarc: combat log issues!! ;))
10:12.29Antiarcsb: ?
10:12.34sbAntiarc: i cant see my combat log buttons
10:12.44sbbut i can still click them :o
10:12.44ramozEllipsis: do i have to get my popcorn?
10:12.49Ellipsishaha
10:12.52AntiarcOh
10:12.57AntiarcDo you have a fully opaque background?
10:13.20Ellipsisramoz: I'm not saying I've actually tried, or anything... *innocent face*
10:13.25sbhmyep
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10:13.40ramozEllipsis: tell me, tell me everything! *popcorn*
10:13.59Ellipsisnaw, I wouldn't do that. Antiarc's too tall for me :P
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10:15.02sbhmm yes Antiarc, thats it
10:15.39Zariel~seen Bela
10:15.41purlbela <n=bela@193.194.80.122> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 430d 19h 5m 58s ago, saying: 'I don't want to compile my kernel,   I just  want to install   Video4Linux2 driver  for SN9C1xx PC Camera, which asked for   /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-386/build'.
10:15.52CIA-3903elsia * r69077 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (RecountFu.lua RecountFu_Options.lua):
10:15.52CIA-39FuBar_RecountFu:
10:15.52CIA-39- Using Recount's new MergedPetDamageDPS call to get matching merge pet damage/dps readings.
10:15.52CIA-39- Fixed bug where solo DPS wasn't used when overall data was selected.
10:15.53sbso i have to use chatterbox background instead of blizz chat settings?
10:15.58Zariel~seen Bela|work
10:15.59purlbela|work <n=Beladona@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 14h 11m 43s ago, saying: 'disk to tape is le suck'.
10:16.08ZyndromeAntiarc , http://i30.tinypic.com/kyruw.jpg , your doing or perhaps MiniChat or ChatIcons is doing something evil
10:17.43AntiarcZyndrome: I'm working on that right now, actually
10:17.51Antiarc<PROTECTED>
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10:18.58CIA-3903ackis * r69078 10AckisRecipeList/ACE3/ (20 files in 3 dirs):
10:18.58CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
10:18.58CIA-39- Somewhat working Ace3 version
10:18.58CIA-39- Slash commands are still ugly
10:19.12AntiarcBAH
10:19.17AntiarcWhy is that coming up as dialog?
10:20.23AntiarcBetter yet
10:20.27AntiarcWhy would it matter? Hrm.
10:20.39Antiarc<PROTECTED>
10:20.48Zyndrome7
10:21.26Zyndromeask others to do it as well, my UI has been through a lot of journeys of stratas and levels :P
10:22.29Zhinjioheh, mine says 11
10:22.32Zhinjiowhacky
10:23.10Fisker-tickles
10:23.26Zarieldoes anyone have an none EN client?
10:23.28Fisker-anyone know a site or forum post for gems for paladins?
10:23.45AntiarcZyndrome: Try this for me
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10:23.53AntiarcOmen modules\ChatFrameBorder.lua
10:23.57AntiarcGo to line 51, and add frame:SetFrameLevel(1)
10:24.05AntiarcShould be right after a frame:SetFrameStrata call
10:24.08AntiarcReload and see if that fixes it
10:24.12Ellipsislol, omen
10:24.19AntiarcOmen? o.0
10:24.22AntiarcI meant to type "goto"
10:24.22Zyndromeomen? :O
10:24.23[eu]gunderZariel: I have a FR client what do you want?
10:24.26Zyndromeoh
10:24.27AntiarcErr
10:24.28AntiarcOpen
10:24.30AntiarcYes
10:24.37Ellipsis~lart Antiarc
10:24.37purlwhips out a sword and chops Antiarc in half
10:24.37Zariel[eu]gunder: do you have DevTools installed?
10:24.47[eu]gunderNo but I can get it
10:24.51Zarielits ok
10:24.56CIA-3903ackis * r69079 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua:
10:24.56CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
10:24.56CIA-39- LW Fix
10:25.03Fisker-destroys Ellipsis
10:25.09Ellipsislikes it
10:25.17Orionshockso are all the combat log range cVars gone or renamed??
10:25.22Ellipsisfacepalms
10:25.23Zarieldo, /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetSpellInfo(246))
10:25.24Zarielplease
10:25.34ZyndromeAntiarc , that did the trick
10:25.37EllipsisOrionshock: the combat log has a fixed range now, the cvars do not exist anymore
10:25.41Zyndrometext shown above the background now
10:25.43AntiarcZyndrome: Awesome, adding to trunk then
10:26.08Brunersis parrot working again now?
10:26.12Ellipsissorta
10:26.35Ellipsisit's kind of a band-aid fix until parrot 2.0 is released
10:27.24Azurewrathworks flawless so far :)
10:27.36Arrowmasterfar from it
10:27.43Arrowmasteri had to disable it because of issues
10:27.44Ellipsisthere's some bugginess with it actually
10:28.02[eu]gunderZariel: "lenteur"
10:28.05Fisker-parrot sucks and you should feel bad
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10:28.09Fisker-</obvioustroll>
10:28.10Zariel[eu]gunder: thanks :)
10:28.28[eu]gundernp
10:28.29CIA-3903antiarc * r69080 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (ChannelNames.lua ChatFrameBorders.lua):
10:28.29CIA-39Chatterbox:
10:28.29CIA-39- Nilling a channel name now returns it to default
10:28.29CIA-39- Set a frame level on the background panes to deal with errant chat frames
10:28.40Azurewrathmhm, i noticed no bugs or errors.. but my parrot config and tag use is kinda simple
10:29.08Arrowmaster30% fps drop was the major bug i had with it
10:29.18ramozso
10:29.31ramoza awesome dottimer
10:29.42Arrowmasteroh and darkpact was completely fucked up displaying
10:30.23Ellipsisthere's an awesome dot timer?
10:30.35Ellipsisdoubts
10:30.36Azurewrathhehe, fps drop sounds like cpu use.. maybe thats why i did not notice it.. wow normally uses like 20-30% of my cpu..
10:30.55Brunerssorren timers works ok for dots
10:30.57StanzillaI like classtimer :P
10:31.03KaaosaI use Sorren's Timers for dots, but it's hardly "awesome" :\
10:31.06Ellipsis~agree Stanzilla
10:31.07purlACTION forces Stanzilla to agree with ellipsis.  "Its no matter, ellipsis is always right Stanzilla"
10:31.12ZhinjioAntiarc: does that fix the minichat weirdness, do you think?
10:31.19StanzillaEllipsis: :(
10:31.20Ellipsis~botsnack
10:31.20purlEllipsis: :)
10:31.51ramozStanzilla: so classtimer is awesome?
10:31.57AntiarcZhinjio: Likely
10:32.01CIA-3903antiarc * r69081 10Omen/Frame.lua: Omen: Fix a problem that was creating potentially thousands of new tables. Recycling isn't just for treehuggers, kids!
10:32.06Zhinjioalright, I'll check shortly
10:32.09Stanzillaramoz: dunno if it is awesome but it does what I want :P
10:32.21ramozi c
10:32.28ArrowmasterAntiarc: what about the extra bar issue? find that one yet?
10:32.33ramozdoes it have a castbar for enemeys to?
10:32.36AntiarcNot yet
10:33.02Stanzillano
10:33.14Ellipsiswhy would a dot timer do cast bars?
10:33.16EllipsisMADNESS
10:33.20CIA-3903ackis * r69082 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua):
10:33.20CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
10:33.20CIA-39- Removed scan command line
10:33.20CIA-39- Cleaned up enUS localization (alphabetized all professions except beast training)
10:33.45ramozEllipsis: point - im looking to replace necb (!)
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10:33.55Ellipsisshudders
10:33.59Arrowmasteryou will never replace necb with a single addon
10:34.01ArrowmasterEVER
10:34.04Ellipsiswell, quartz for player + enemy + etc. cast bars
10:34.06ZhinjioAntiarc: checking now.
10:34.33ramozArrowmaster: yeah, i know - therfor i need a addon for that too
10:34.46ZhinjioI need an addon to manage what addons replace necb!
10:35.01CIA-3903scorpion * r69083 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
10:35.01CIA-39Cryolysis2:
10:35.01CIA-39- Added "Hearthstone"
10:35.01CIA-39- Updated zhTW localization
10:35.01CIA-39- Updated zhCN localization
10:35.03AntiarcSo
10:35.07AntiarcThe reason this whole thing started
10:35.16AntiarcIs because I was profiling my addons today
10:35.27AntiarcDigging through code, trying to find what was hidding in libraries
10:35.46AntiarcAnd it turned out that Prat was responsible for half the CPU time blamed on Ace2
10:35.53Arrowmasterlol
10:36.03Ellipsiswho would have guessed?
10:36.05Ellipsiscoughs
10:36.13Kaaosalol
10:36.14AntiarcSince replacing Prat with Chatterbox, Ace2 is now taking 6.3ms CPU time/second
10:36.25AntiarcAs opposed to about 13-14 ms CPU time/second
10:36.42KalrothAntiarc: You replaced Cart too, yeah?
10:36.43KaaosaPrat also seems to have been what was causing me to get DC'd every time I reloaded my UI >_>
10:36.49AntiarcKalroth: Yes, with MApster
10:36.59KalrothAntiarc: It's not a wowace addon or?
10:37.04AntiarcIt is
10:37.04KaaosaI've done a reloadui several times since switching to Chatterbox and it hasn't happened once :o
10:37.15ramozsomeone should write a instance-module for mapster
10:37.15AntiarcMapster + GatherMate + Routes
10:37.19Groktari don't like the way that prat changes the tab functionality to autocomplete names
10:37.19AntiarcKaaosa: Woot :D
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10:37.27Groktarinstead of switch between people you've messaged
10:37.30CIA-3903gagorian * r69084 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
10:37.30CIA-39DrDamage:
10:37.30CIA-39- Added AP coefficient display to the melee module tooltip as requested
10:40.01ZhinjioAntiarc: not working still *cry*
10:40.06Nandinii find it off-putting when addons bill themselves specifically as a replacement for another addon, "alternative" just sounds more modest
10:40.11ZhinjioI managed to get the button to trigger once.
10:40.15Zhinjionot since
10:40.20AntiarcHrm
10:40.24AntiarcI'll ahveto go install minichat I guess
10:40.37Zhinjiosorry
10:40.40AntiarcHehe, no worries
10:40.52Zhinjioif there's something I can provide that will isolate it, I'm happy to
10:41.04SunTsuAntiarc: Does ChatterBox have the same features, like alt<->Main linking?
10:41.23CIA-3903lilsparky 07lilsparky * r69085 10Skillet/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
10:41.23CIA-39Skillet/lilsparky:
10:41.23CIA-39-still needs revised storage, but mostly working
10:41.36Zhinjioyikes
10:41.42AntiarcNo character linking at the moment
10:41.42Zhinjiomy current timestamp is 37:39
10:41.46Zhinjiohehehee
10:41.47AntiarcHaha, what
10:41.51AntiarcWhich format?
10:41.59SunTsuAntiarc: Damn. Thanks
10:42.00CIA-3903broesel01 * r69086 10Quiet_Npc/ (Quiet_Npc - ReadMe.txt Quiet_Shattrath.lua):
10:42.00CIA-39Quiet_Npc
10:42.00CIA-39- Npc's geaddet
10:42.27Zhinjioah, MM:SS
10:42.29SunTsu.o0( broesel01 seems to be german )
10:42.36AntiarcHehe, that'd be why
10:42.43AntiarcDoes that default seem too unintuitive?
10:42.44Zhinjiothat seems kind of a silly default, no?
10:42.51AntiarcI dunno, it makes sense to me
10:43.01AntiarcI don't need to know what hour chat occurred in genearlly
10:43.02Zhinjiohehehee
10:43.02Antiarcgenerally*
10:43.10ramozSunTsu: think its a german addon actually
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10:43.43CIA-3903antiarc * r69087 10Chatterbox/Modules/Timestamps.lua: Chatterbox: Change default timestamp to be both less confusing and less useful.
10:43.55Ellipsisthe sacrifices we make for silly users
10:43.58SunTsuramoz: that doesn't make the commit message any better ;)
10:44.04EllipsisHH:MM seems to be the most popular default
10:44.18Antiarc%X is at least unambiguous
10:44.26AntiarcSo people can change it if they want
10:44.26Ellipsiseesh
10:46.24Elsiawhat's the functionality difference between chatterbox and prat at this point?
10:46.33Arrowmastera lot
10:46.38Arrowmastersince prat has everything
10:46.50Ellipsischatterbox can't feed your dog
10:46.55Elsiaaww
10:47.08Elsiacupholder?
10:47.22AntiarcChatterbox is not emacs
10:47.23SunTsuElsia: For instance there is no alt linking
10:47.38Ellipsisbut does it have tetris?
10:47.40SunTsuAs I was just told by Antiarc
10:47.41ZhinjioAntiarc: it *seems* to be something about how the chatframe gains focus when you mouse hover it
10:47.42Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.0 has teh feature list
10:47.50Zhinjioyou know how it sort of darkens and the tabs appear?
10:47.54AntiarcZhinjio: Hm. I don't know, no.
10:47.57AntiarcOh, well
10:47.59AntiarcI know that it does, yes
10:48.03AntiarcI don't know the mechanism :P
10:48.10Zhinjiobefore that happens, I have a small chance of clicking the button before it gets covered.
10:48.18AntiarcInteresting
10:48.22Zhinjioor, I seem to be able to ...
10:48.39starlonI can't configure Chatterbox. The drop down menus are covered up by the scroll bar partially.
10:48.54Elsiacan you use cursor up/down for previous message etc in chatterbox?
10:49.09Antiarcstarlon: Use the "Standalone Config" button or download BetterBlizzOptions
10:49.17AntiarcElsia: That's Blizz default, I think
10:49.26AntiarcIt works for me and I didn't write any code to do it
10:49.28Elsiadon't think so
10:49.41Elsiaer hm
10:49.48Arrowmasteryou have to use alt up down
10:49.54AntiarcActually
10:49.57Elsiaah, see I want to just use up/down
10:49.58AntiarcThat does work
10:50.04AntiarcBecause I disabled the alt requirement for left/right
10:50.05AntiarcSo yes
10:50.12Elsiaok
10:50.12AntiarcYou can use the up/down arrows :)
10:50.47SunTsuI use ist mostly for character linking and tab completion
10:51.10Fisker-slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout
10:51.11Snagois it configurable? I get sad when I loose what I was typing because I accidently hit up or down :(
10:51.39AntiarcSnago: Well, I guess I could provide a switch for it, but that would turn off left/right without alt too
10:52.14Snagooh, no way to make that separate?
10:52.17Ellipsisnope
10:52.19Antiarcnope
10:52.21Ellipsisthank blizz for that
10:52.26Arrowmasteryes you can
10:52.35Ellipsisyou'd have to do something wacky like rebind them
10:52.35Snago~fail Blizz
10:52.36purlYou suck at everything in life, Blizz. I hate you because you fail.
10:52.39Arrowmasteryou have to code it all up yourself though
10:52.46AntiarcArrowmaster: you forget
10:52.46Arrowmasterno rebinding needed
10:52.47AntiarcI am lazy
10:53.07ArrowmasterOnKeyDown or whatever handlers
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10:55.13SnagoAntiarc: Any plans on an Altlink module?
10:56.14AntiarcI'd have to know what it does first :P
10:56.15Zhinjiolistens to _Still Alive_ to boost his spirits.
10:56.29aestilbuu: alive, on way to work, bbl
10:57.20SnagoAntiarc: It puts main name in parenthesis after the name of an alt typing in chat.
10:57.28AntiarcSnago: How's that data entered?
10:57.30sbAntiarc: plans to implement those little chat addons from haste? (maybe configurable this time :p)
10:57.40Antiarcsb: Which?
10:57.49sbEnen, Tenmetsu, Fane
10:57.55Zhinjiohow do I prevent an intercepted message to WHISPER from being passed through?
10:58.13AntiarcI have no idea what those are
10:58.16sbEnen is a small add-on which makes the whisper tab (on your chat frames) flash constantly until you check it, instead of flashing for 60 seconds and then stopping.
10:58.23SnagoAntiarc: Rightclick a playerlink and click "Set main" an you'll get a little box popup where you'll type the main name.
10:58.27sbTenmetsu is a small add-on, which enables the whisper like flash behavior for other message types (ie. guild, raid etc).
10:58.41sbFane is a small add-on to make the chat tabs look slightly more appealing. The tabs will always be shown on ChatFrame1 (that's the one where you can have more than one tab)
10:58.45sbAntiarc: thats it ;)
10:59.03aestil7th straight day working.
10:59.05Arrowmasterwhy cant you just use those addons?
10:59.08aestili may die.
10:59.19sbAntiarc: see chat tabs here http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040308192505uc0.jpg
10:59.29Zhinjiowow, I just crashed my client.
10:59.30Zhinjiocool.
10:59.50Orionshockurg.... wtb more options on BW_CommonAuras
11:00.25ZhinjioI guess 'nil' as a language for SendChatMessage is *not* valid.
11:00.33Arrowmasteryes it is
11:00.36sbAntiarc: they are all like ~20 lines, nothing special ;)
11:00.47Arrowmasternil is all anybody uses for SendChatMessage
11:01.17Arrowmastersb: whats wrong with just using them in addition to Chatterbox?
11:01.22ZhinjioSendChatMessage( SKGL["SKG_MSG_SKGINST"], "WHISPER", nil, sender )
11:01.26Zhinjiothat crashed my client
11:02.10Zhinjiohmm.
11:02.23ZhinjioI might be exceeding a maximum length or something.
11:02.38sbArrowmaster: nothing wrong - but it would be easier to recommend those addons to some friends if there were some config options (gui, not lua editing :p)
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11:04.04elusifif i apply the frozen throne patch to reign of chaos will i still be able to play reign of chaos first?
11:04.07Fisker-nerf priests sb
11:04.14CIA-3903antiarc * r69088 10Chatterbox/Chatterbox.lua: Chatterbox: Fix profile changes/copies/resets
11:04.14sbFisker-: %-)
11:04.48ElsiaAntiarc: seems like I get a warrior in priest class colors
11:04.54Kalrothkinky
11:05.04Elsiaah nevermind
11:05.08Elsianeeds glasses.
11:05.10CIA-3903antiarc * r69089 10Chatterbox/Chatterbox.lua: Chatterbox: Debug code = cruise control for awesome
11:05.32KalrothAntiarc: NO, THAT IS CAPS LOCK
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11:06.18Fisker-YOU CALL THAT A CAPS LOCK?
11:06.23Fisker-THIS IS A CAPS LOCK
11:06.48Ellipsispresses Fisker-'s caps lock. hard.
11:06.58Kaaosaoh baby?
11:06.58ElsiaAntiarc: but my eyes are correct that there is an extra combat log frame that acts like a normal chat frame now
11:07.42Arrowmastercombat log is a normal chat frame.....
11:07.48Fisker-Antiarc how is memory usage on chatterbox?
11:07.54Elsiabut there shouldn't be two should there?
11:08.01EllipsisArrowmaster: that depends on your definition of "normal"
11:08.06AntiarcI'm running about 300kb right now, with a crapload of player names saved in the db
11:08.13Fisker-hmm
11:08.16sbprat was like 2mb :/
11:08.16AntiarcI dunno if that includes embeds or not though
11:08.18Fisker-seems to be a lot better than prat :P
11:08.53AntiarcElsia: Elaborate?
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11:09.30Elsiaanti, the chat1 has it's general tab and a combat log tab, which acts like a normal chat frame, and I have a pulled out combat log frame that acts like the new combat log frame
11:09.38KalrothHow does Mapsters map the map map?
11:09.43Elsiabefore I installed chatterbox I just had general and the pulled out combat log frame
11:09.54Antiarco.0
11:09.56KaaosaKalroth, put the word map in that sentence 10 more times :o
11:10.32sbokay, now i have to 'fix' my other memory hogs: wim, autobar, arkinventory, elephant %-)
11:10.32Elsiabasically I got an attached extra combat log frame that acts not as combat log but as chat frame
11:10.34taskulrafhmmm... lets see.  What do I actually use in prat... auto-chat logging.  tab complete.  'sticky' channels so I dont have to type /4 all the time.  History.  Channel names.  Moving the input box.  Hiding chat tabs unless I mouse over them.  class colors.  time stamps.  url copy.
11:10.57Elsiacan make screenie if it helps, but will take a while
11:11.22Antiarcscreenie would be good
11:11.27Elsiaalright
11:11.42sag_ich_nicht...
11:11.43sbbut there is no low-memory arkinventory replacement :/ (and yes, i tried a lot of other addons..) - same with autobar (pt3bar did some strange things last time i used it)
11:11.44sag_ich_nicht~lart Antiarc
11:11.45purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Antiarc
11:11.51sag_ich_nicht1. antiarc the blacklist is broked
11:12.07sag_ich_nichti was getting Scarabs all over my overview in hyjal yesterday
11:12.08Ellipsissb: sounds like embedded lib fail imo
11:12.19sag_ich_nichtand YES everyone the latest version
11:12.25sbEllipsis: mh? which one?
11:12.38sag_ich_nicht2. it's CRUISE CONTROL TO COOL YOU ASS
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11:12.40sag_ich_nichtnot to awesome
11:12.41sag_ich_nichtnub
11:12.42Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: Elaborate. Works for me
11:12.52Ellipsissb: both. they both start with a, and neither have particularly huge requirements by themselves
11:14.12sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_041008_203550.jpg
11:14.15Arrowmasterbah we still dont have a way to kill SpecialEvents-Aura yet do we
11:14.23sag_ich_nicht(spam refresh while i upload :P)
11:14.32sag_ich_nichtokay upload done :P
11:14.38CIA-3903antiarc * r69090 10Chatterbox/ (Chatterbox.lua Modules/AutoLogChat.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: Add Chat AutoLog module. Disabled by default.
11:14.56Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: You can still get data from older clients that haven't updated with the blacklist
11:15.07Zhinjioalright, thats freaking weird.
11:15.12AntiarcUse that "Whisper" button! :P
11:15.24sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: would you fucking CHECK the damn FUCKING version check in the FUCKING ChatFrame1
11:15.24ElsiaAntiarc: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c311/elsia_row/WoWScrnShot_041108_131249.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c311/elsia_row/WoWScrnShot_041108_131254.jpg
11:15.31ZhinjioSendChatMessage( "test", "WHISPER", nil, sender ) works fine.... however
11:15.49ZhinjioSendChatMessage( SKGL["SKG_MSG_SKGINST1"], "WHISPER", nil, sender )
11:15.53Zhinjiocrashed the  client
11:16.08Zhinjioyou can't put a localizd string in there?
11:16.09EllipsisZhinjio: clearly your variable contains something evil
11:16.19AntiarcElsia: Does that go away if you turn off chatterbox?
11:16.25ElsiaAntiarc: let me check
11:16.28AntiarcI can't imagine why it'd do that :/
11:16.29sag_ich_nichtAntiarc there were no damn older clients ><
11:16.41Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: I have the wrong NPC ID then
11:16.42AntiarcI'll fix it.
11:16.42ArrowmasterAntiarc: AoE mode wasnt working for me earlyer today with latest version, sometimes it would work others it would, and overview mode was all messed up since if you make omen big then make it small all the bars for overview mode wouldnt go away
11:16.46sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: good
11:16.49ElsiaAntiarc: no, it persists
11:16.53AntiarcHuh.
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11:16.58AntiarcI wonder how on earth that happened
11:17.01sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: also you should maybe make the blacklist a variable that's broadcastable
11:17.13Ellipsisone of many quirks of the stupid buggy unfinished combat log
11:17.17Ellipsisgrowls at blizz
11:17.23sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: also on my screenshot you can see a display bug in overview mode
11:17.41Arrowmasterall the overlaping?
11:17.43Arrowmasteri had that too
11:17.45sag_ich_nichtya
11:18.12sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: so you can update the blackslist of your lazy ass raidmembers :P
11:18.26sag_ich_nicht(of course, the variable should be non-permanent so you can't exploit it)
11:18.40Grumsag_ich_nicht: stop walking caps to Antiarc plx
11:18.44Arrowmasternah just make the blacklist apply to recieved syncs
11:18.46Grumelse i have to decapitate your kittah
11:18.50sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: also that
11:19.00ElsiaAntiarc: I deleted the bogus CL, disabled CB, /rl, enabled CB /rl, no bogus CL created anymore, not sure what caused this
11:19.05sag_ich_nichtGrum: "walking caps"?
11:19.05Zhinjiocan you not pass coloring information into SendChatMessage?
11:19.06sag_ich_nichtwhat
11:19.08Zhinjiohrm.
11:19.18ArrowmasterZhinjio: no you can not
11:19.22Zhinjioaha!
11:19.23sag_ich_nichtenglish motherfucker do you speak it
11:19.24starlonDoes anyone no for sure if swstats syncs in combat or not?
11:19.34Grumit shouldnt
11:19.42Zhinjiosad that it crashes the client instead of providing some useful error message
11:19.44Grumyou need cpu cycles for other shit incombat
11:20.02sag_ich_nichtswstats syncs in combat
11:20.07ArrowmasterZhinjio: most invalid stuff does with SendChatMessage
11:20.09sag_ich_nichti'm pretty sure about that
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11:20.16Zhinjiok
11:20.16Arrowmasterperty sure it does too
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11:20.23Arrowmasterbut i didnt know there was a 2.4 version
11:20.30sag_ich_nichtthere is
11:20.32Arrowmasterperty sure it did in 2.3
11:20.33starlonyeah
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11:20.49starlona bunch of people in my guild are using it now
11:21.05starlonand I've been getting alot of lag/dc issues
11:21.06Zhinjiook, so that gets back to my earlier question.
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11:21.25Arrowmasterstarlon: AddonSpamFu
11:21.26Zhinjiois there a way to prevent an intercepted incoming message from still being passed through the default chat handler?
11:21.31starlonI have it
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11:21.44ArrowmasterZhinjio: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
11:21.48starlonThat's how I know they're all using it.
11:21.51Zhinjioand further: prevent an outbound "WHISPER" from being displayed in the sender's chat frame?
11:21.58ArrowmasterZhinjio: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
11:21.58Zhinjiolooks.
11:22.07Arrowmastermikk messed up one of the examples though
11:22.12Arrowmasterand im too lazy to fix it
11:22.16sag_ich_nichthttp://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/11/0335206 WOW that is stupid
11:22.17sag_ich_nichthonestly
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11:23.24EllipsisArrowmaster: does that work for events other than CHAT_MSG_*?
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11:23.34Ellipsise.g. system messages etc.
11:23.44ArrowmasterEllipsis: not sure check the code
11:23.50Ellipsisbut lazy :<
11:23.50Arrowmasteroh wait yeah it does
11:24.04Arrowmastersince system messages are a CHAT_MSG_* event
11:24.15Arrowmaster......
11:25.21Ellipsisall of them?
11:25.33Arrowmastertheres only one system message event
11:25.49Ellipsisis the rep message included in that?
11:26.05Arrowmasteris rep the same color as system messages? no
11:26.06Zhinjiohmm.
11:26.27Arrowmasterbut rep is also a CHAT_MSG_* event
11:26.29Zhinjioif I set a filter to... hmm.
11:26.49EllipsisArrowmaster: exactly why I said "system messages etc."
11:27.02Ellipsisanyhow, I think I found my answer on wowwiki, thanks
11:27.08Arrowmasterwhen you say system messages i take that to mean CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM
11:27.45Orionshockanyone know what "CanSummonFriend()" and "SummonFriend()" are for?
11:28.13Ellipsisthe "etc." part was intended to include anything not strictly chat that was printed to the chat frame
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11:28.54Ellipsissigh
11:28.58Arrowmasterlol
11:29.08EllipsisI swear to god I break wireless networks
11:29.29Arrowmasterwell except for the combatlog CHAT_MSG_* covers everything else printed to the chat frames by the default ui
11:30.28Ellipsishmkay
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11:39.27Zhinjiocrap
11:39.34ZhinjioI think WIM is ignoring those Filters.
11:39.41Zhinjiodisabling and trying again...
11:39.42Arrowmasterduh
11:39.50Arrowmasterit has to be updated to use them
11:40.16Zhinjiohmm, I'm behind by a rev. perhaps he's added support....
11:40.33Arrowmasterdoubt he even knows it exists yet
11:44.11Brunersanyone know when this is available ? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35242#teaches-recipe
11:44.39taskulrafonce you complete the alchemy lab.
11:45.30Zhinjioactually... WIM isn't loaded now, and it still isn't paying attention to the filter I created.
11:45.47Brunerscellular > wim
11:46.38Zhinjiorereads the API
11:47.04KaaosaBut WIM is prettier :\
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11:52.10Zhinjiointeresting
11:52.15Zhinjioit filters inbound messages only
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11:54.43ZhinjioArrowmaster: is that accurate? Inbound messages onnly?
11:54.54Zhinjioit seems to be the behavior.
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12:03.41Antiarchttp://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041108050123qk4.jpg - idling in Stormwind while I code. Only running Prat (with Ace2 embeds), Chatterbox (with Ace3 embeds) and OptionHouse (Not an Ace mod)
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12:03.53mitch0yo
12:04.08CIA-3903ananhaid * r69091 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhCN.lua:
12:04.08CIA-39Recount:
12:04.08CIA-39- zhCN update.
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12:05.23mitch0what is Prat? (not that I'm about to install it after that screenshot :)
12:05.33AntiarcIt's a chat mod
12:05.57mitch0uhum. guess I'll live without it then ;)
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12:06.13AntiarcUse Chatterbox instead!
12:06.31mitch0I don't think I ever needed a "chat" addonw
12:06.39mitch0whatever they do though?
12:06.58KaaosaMake your chat prettier
12:07.20SunTsumitch0: I like tab completion the IRC way
12:08.05StanzillaI heard that will be in Chatterbox soon, SunTsu :P
12:08.20mitch0guess I'm not social enough to need that kind of sophisticated chat ;)
12:08.28SunTsuStanzilla: Great ;)
12:08.33CIA-3903ag 07Ace3 * r69092 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames: LSM -> 3.0
12:08.48SunTsumitch0: I am too lazy to have it any other way
12:09.51CIA-3903ananhaid * r69093 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua:
12:09.51CIA-39BigWigs:
12:09.51CIA-39- zhCN Felmyst update.
12:10.04mitch0I'm trying to quit smoking 'cos it's 1) bad for the health and 2) costs a lot. but 2) is pretty fsckd up, as I spend about 3 times my cig money to buisquets and stuff...
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12:11.18mitch0biscuit even
12:12.09Brunersoral tobacco > smoking
12:12.45odtwhat addon would allow to move the durability frame/flag timer frame
12:13.31CIA-3903gagorian * r69094 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua Data/Hunter.lua Melee.lua):
12:13.31CIA-39DrDamage:
12:13.31CIA-39- The DrDamage 'Attack' tooltip can now only update every 2 seconds, for some reason Blizzard spams SetAction/SetSpell when Attack tooltip is hovered (I guess they want crit chance updated 4 times per second..)
12:13.31CIA-39- Windfury detection uses GetSpellInfo
12:13.31CIA-39- Added the dot portion to explosive trap
12:13.35CIA-39- Simplified melee tooltip +1% Total display a bit
12:15.11winkilleranyone lately tested http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon - doesn't seem to work
12:15.48Zhinjiowinkiller: Snago was just saying earlier that it needs to be updated.
12:15.52Elsiahmm is the unitid raidn always 1..GetNumRaidMembers() or can there be gaps and it can go up to 40?
12:15.59winkillerah must've missed that thanls
12:16.33Zhinjio04:05 < Snago> Gagorian: It's an incomplete rewrite of the Ace2 tutorial. I hope to have it complete (or at least at a
12:16.36Zhinjio<PROTECTED>
12:17.12winkillermy bad luck to try it out *now* :D
12:17.17Zhinjioheh
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12:20.22CIA-3903adirelle * r69095 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/ (tracking.lua warlock.lua warrior.lua): SimpleSelfRebuff: use more spell ids and less BabbleSpell, thanks to Stan.
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12:20.30winkillerwell, trying the Ace2 one then
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12:21.00mitch0but Ace2 is obsolete
12:21.03mitch0and slow
12:21.07mitch0and memory hungry
12:21.13mitch0and bad for your teeth
12:21.14Orionshocknot obsolete
12:21.16Orionshockjust dated
12:21.48winkillerI think if I have time *now* I can also use Ace2 and adjust should I release something :P
12:22.39winkillerbut it seems the ace2 tutorial also doesn't work :P
12:23.14CIA-3903gagorian * r69096 10DrDamage/Data/Shaman.lua:
12:23.14CIA-39DrDamage:
12:23.14CIA-39- Use GetSpellInfo for Restorative Totems localization in the shaman module
12:23.17CIA-3903shamino * r69097 10EnchantingSell/ (. EnchantingSell-Util-1.0.lua):
12:23.17CIA-39EnchantingSell:
12:23.17CIA-39- removed BTS reference, and replaced with local localization
12:26.15Gagorianhmmmm
12:26.16Gagorianso
12:26.25GagorianShould I convert to Ace3?
12:26.34Orionshockthat remove the attunement req on Kara?
12:27.05ZhinjioOrionshock: did they? yes./
12:27.27CIA-3903antiarc * r69098 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/AltNames.lua modules.xml): Chatterbox: Add alt name linking. Booyah.
12:28.14GagorianIs dewdrop only ace2? I still kinda prefer it
12:28.29ZhinjioAntiarc: what does that do exactly? It lets you associate mains with alts?
12:28.40AntiarcYup
12:28.53Zhinjioreloads again to see what this is all about.
12:29.00Orionshockfk
12:29.01AntiarcRight click someone's name in chat
12:29.04Orionshockgg bliz
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12:29.44Zhinjiodanit, my checkout is pulling down externals
12:30.12BrunersAntiarc: so chatterbox is the new prat?
12:30.14StanzillaAntiarc: go go tabcomplete :P
12:31.42Brunersnick completioning with tab is the only thing i need really
12:31.44OrionshockBruners: i'd think that Chatterbox is more a lightweight prat than "the new"
12:32.15KaaosaAntiarc, when I'm in a BG, Player Class Colors shows class colors only for people from my realm :x
12:32.37Zhinjioalright, I like that.
12:32.58Gibbonz|Worknick completion should be an option if its added, some prefer the default tab function
12:33.19Brunerswhat is the default function ?
12:33.52Gibbonz|Workcycles who you've recently message, if i recall from earlier
12:34.00Gibbonz|Workmessaged*
12:34.32Zhinjioshould the main's name (in parens) be class colored as well?
12:34.56Zhinjiowould be quick lookup, I would think, no?
12:35.14Zhinjio(assuming they have class coloring on)
12:35.30AntiarcPerhaps so, if the module is on
12:35.32AntiarcI'll see about it
12:35.51Zhinjiosorry dude.
12:35.54ZhinjioI can do this all day.
12:35.56Zhinjioheh
12:36.29BrunersGibbonz|Work: it still does that
12:36.30winkillerthe GetSubZoneText() from the tutorial doesn't work
12:36.42winkillerno wonder it's so silent
12:38.23winkillerargh, ok
12:41.13Grumsome zones dont have a SubZoneText() i think :D
12:41.27winkillerI went Exodar -> Azuremyst
12:41.37winkillerthat is ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA
12:41.44winkillerand both have no SubZoneText
12:41.44winkillerdoh
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12:43.02sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: there are two crypt scarabs, 10577 and 17967
12:44.02sag_ich_nichtyou're only blacklisting 17967 but not 10577
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12:45.38CIA-3903dodge 07rewrite * r69099 10CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base.lua config.lua init.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: added more configs and other stuff :)
12:45.44CIA-3903antiarc * r69100 10Chatterbox/ (Modules/CopyChat.lua Modules/TinyChat.lua modules.xml):
12:45.44CIA-39Chatterbox:
12:45.44CIA-39- Add TinyChat module - lets you make frames much smaller or larger than usual.
12:45.44CIA-39- Made CopyChat icons only show on frame hover
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12:47.39VulcanusDoes anybody have any experiences with using v2 of recount? I know "prealpha" should tip me off, but it might still work ;p
12:47.40sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: they have the same model too, so i assume both are used in hyjal
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12:49.29sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: you should probably also checkout the spells 16418, 16594, 16795 and 31591, only the last one summons 17967, all others summon 10577
12:49.38CIA-3903antiarc * r69101 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatBlacklist.lua: Threat-2.0: Add more scarabs to the blacklist
12:49.42CIA-3903ag 07Ace3 * r69102 10ag_UnitFrames/ (8 files in 5 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: updated code for SML3
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12:50.35PolarinaAntiarc: Scarabs?
12:51.12PolarinaAntiarc: List of dump people breaking Omen with incorrect addon messages?
12:51.44sag_ich_nichtPolarina: no
12:51.59ZhinjioAntiarc: just realized something that was missing from my chatframe that I didn't notice until just now
12:52.00sag_ich_nichtmicro mobs that have no death message that spawn in hyjal
12:52.02sag_ich_nichtamong others
12:52.08Zhinjioplayer level
12:52.28Zhinjiomaybe throw it in as an option on the Player Class Colors module?
12:52.32AntiarcUgh, I don't wanna do player level :(
12:52.34AntiarcI guess so
12:52.36AntiarcBut ugh
12:52.36Zhinjioheh
12:52.38CIA-3903antiarc * r69103 10Chatterbox/Modules/ (4 files): Chatterbox: Do some more typechecking to prevent errors
12:52.51Zhinjioit only appears if they are in guild
12:52.53Zhinjioor ... used to
12:52.55AntiarcAnd I might need to rename Chatterbox
12:53.00[SW]DodgeAntiarc: what is chatterbox? a prat replacement?
12:53.05AntiarcBecause there's another named Chatterbox that I missed
12:53.07Antiarc[SW]Dodge: Yes
12:53.09sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: care to make the blacklist also drop incoming data about those mobs?
12:53.13AntiarcAce3, far more lightweight
12:53.21Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: Eventually. I'm going to go to bed now though
12:53.25[SW]Dodgesouds nice :)
12:53.30sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: kk
12:53.41PolarinaWhy have a blacklist for mobs not producing death messages?
12:53.42Zhinjiohmm... how about...
12:53.44ZhinjioYapper?
12:53.45Zhinjioheh
12:53.49Silviu-Antiarc more features -> bloat, more configurations -> even more bloat ( my opininon ) :(
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12:54.03sag_ich_nichtPolarina: uhm so you store their threat data?
12:54.12sag_ich_nichtPolarina: so they don't stay in the damn list forever?
12:54.16sag_ich_nichtPolarina: so you use less memory and like
12:54.27Polarinasag_ich_nicht: Have it time out?
12:54.42sag_ich_nichtthe damn mobs live for 10 seconds.
12:54.52sag_ich_nichtthey have like 5 hp. nobody cares about their threat
12:55.04ZhinjioVerbosity? TalksToMuch? ... I'll shuddup now.
12:55.11ZhinjioShuddup!
12:55.22sag_ich_nichtthey'd just fill up the overview mode with useless information anyway, even if they had a deathmessage
12:55.31sag_ich_nichtit causes horrible comms spam
12:55.40Polarinasag_ich_nicht: Nah.. :P
12:55.44sag_ich_nichtPolarina: uhm yes
12:55.53Polarinasag_ich_nicht: Sure. :)
12:56.08sag_ich_nichtPolarina: every time someone gets rage/energy, everytime someone heals, a table with over 60 mobs over the comm?
12:56.16Silviu-Polarina update Valuation soon ? ;p
12:56.24sag_ich_nichtshut the fuck up if you don't know SHIT about comms, honestly
12:56.33sag_ich_nichteverytime you open your damn mouth you look even stupider than before
12:56.35sag_ich_nicht-.-
12:56.49Silviu-tryes to calm sag_ich_nicht
12:56.56sag_ich_nichtTRIES
12:56.59sag_ich_nichtIT'S SPELLED TRIES
12:57.02sag_ich_nichtNOT TRYES
12:57.03Silviu-true !
12:57.04sag_ich_nichtugh
12:57.07sag_ich_nichti'm going to bed
12:57.07Silviu-;-)
12:57.10sag_ich_nichtmorons
12:57.12sag_ich_nichtafk
12:57.15SunTsuhands Silviu- a baseballbat
12:57.15Silviu-better go :)
12:57.38PolarinaSilviu-: Load out-of-date addons, but yes, I'll update as soon as I fully recover from the harddrive crash. :P
12:57.47[eu]gunderAckis: http://ace.pastey.net/85533
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12:58.45Silviu-Polarina, yes i know i can load out-of-date, was just asking ;p
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12:59.21PolarinaSilviu-: No worries. Just waiting a while also for the Armoury to synchronise correctly, too.
12:59.33Polarinas/also //
12:59.41Silviu-Cool :)
13:01.23PolarinaSilviu-: I'm also attempting to have it work with patch 3.0 since it will break it.
13:01.43Silviu-Well, long time till that no ? ;)
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13:04.12PolarinaSilviu-: Also attempting to maintain a huge backwards compatibility on the way too. Yes, Valuation works with patch 2.0. :)
13:04.33Silviu-:P
13:04.53Silviu-Oh, u also make it for private servers that don`t use 2.4 yet
13:05.05mikmaOMAGAD! patch 2.0!?!?! where?
13:05.17PolarinaSilviu-: No, it just happens to not require any updates between the patches..
13:05.29Silviu-;p
13:06.01ZhinjioAntiarc: whoa.
13:06.06Zhinjiohang on, lemme pastey this.
13:06.41Silviu-I think he is already gone to sleep ;p
13:07.36Zhinjiohttp://www.pastey.net/85534
13:07.38Zhinjiocould be.
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13:14.44deadlockIs there an addon like Guild alliance any longer?
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13:18.33kilroggdamn isp ...
13:18.45Wobineyes kilrogg
13:20.14ZhinjioI'm actually getting a PlayerClass.lua error on any frame closing now.
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13:26.50winkillermeh, now I was motivated to do something useful and then I may have found a showstopper bug in the addon I was tryin to patch the FuBar plugin
13:26.53winkillerhad no luck
13:27.30kilroggwinkiller: ... which addon was that ?
13:27.37winkillerPallyPower
13:29.16Gibbonz|WorkZeksie: for the xperl rep bar, any thoughts on adding 'Reputation' like auto-tracking based on who you just gained rep with?
13:30.48Gibbonz|Workunless it already works with xperl.. will have to experiment
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13:33.12ShotskiIs there a decent list of WoW's interface textures anywhere?
13:33.52kenlyricbah! where's me svn access
13:33.57kenlyricI have things to crush
13:34.44KuraxAny way to determine if player currently can use flying mounts?
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13:35.18OrphisIs it only me or the daily quests on european servers done between 3 and 4am are counted for the next day even though the reset message is at 4am (paris time) ?
13:35.46stew_aisnt it 3am paris time?
13:35.50SunTsuOrphis: No, I noticed the same
13:35.59kilroggme too. that's the problem with daylight saving time ...
13:36.12SunTsustew_a: Yeah, but the message only occurs at 4am
13:36.38kalahassidont you mix up am and pm ?
13:37.09OrphisNo no
13:37.54winkillerKurax: macros has [flyable] or something, so I be
13:37.58winkiller*bet
13:38.10Kuraxwinkiller: By scripts, no macros
13:38.13Kuraxnot*
13:39.52SunTsukalahassi: No, it's just that the message that informs me of the reset is one hour late
13:40.12SunTsuMaybe thanks due to DST, yes
13:40.30CIA-3903elsia * r69104 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount_Modes.lua):
13:40.30CIA-39Recount:
13:40.30CIA-39- Fixed detail display to page properly and properly initialize summaries again.
13:40.30CIA-39- Minor cleanup for pet handling in merged pet calculation
13:40.50CIA-3903elsia * r69105 10FuBar_RecountFu/RecountFu.lua:
13:40.50CIA-39FuBar_RecountFu:
13:40.50CIA-39- No longer adds ungrouped pets to raid dps calculation.
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13:46.28CIA-3903zhinjio * r69106 10/branches/SKG/ (13 files in 3 dirs):
13:46.28CIA-39SuicideKingsGeo :
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13:47.00Ellipsis~cheer Zhinjio
13:47.01purlACTION cheers Zhinjio on
13:47.17Zhinjiosmiles.
13:47.26ZhinjioI'm too tired to continue atm.
13:47.36Zhinjiobut ... its the first progress in 3 days, so I'm pleased.
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13:48.00Ellipsishugs Zhinjio
13:48.04Ellipsisprogress is progress :)
13:48.22Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis. Indeed. Bedtime for bonzo. You be good. Or at least, safe.
13:48.31Ellipsissafe is for wimps
13:48.32Ellipsis:P
13:48.44Ellipsislicks Zhinjio good night
13:49.17Zhinjio'night
13:49.57CIA-3903elsia * r69107 10Recount/ (Recount.lua deletion.lua):
13:49.57CIA-39Recount:
13:49.57CIA-39- Properly initialize zone filter behavior.
13:51.04kilrogglua>print(string.match("this is a [test]", "%[(.*)%]"));
13:51.04lua_botkilrogg: test
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13:58.50CIA-39Cryolysis2:
13:58.50CIA-39- Fixed the CacheItems function.
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14:03.18Amadeohola
14:04.40elusifif i install frozen throne can i stilkl play reign of chaos?
14:04.56elusifidk if it's an update or completely sep
14:05.06exor674yeah
14:05.19elusifcool ty
14:05.20exor674elusif: you get 2 different applications
14:05.23elusifnice
14:05.34elusif1 hour til download \o/
14:06.00scoutmorning guys, is there a WoW irc channel to go over raid tactics etc?
14:06.18CIA-3903benumbed * r69109 10DaHud/modules/Portraits/Core.lua:
14:06.18CIA-39DaHud:
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14:17.52charonrubik: ping
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14:22.37Grumscout: you can just ask
14:22.43Grumbut there is no specific channel :)
14:23.28FtH|Jamothwhen loading different profiles (with i.e. healer/aoe mode) in Omen, the display doesnt update properly, got to do /toggle twice to solve that... is that a known issue?
14:23.32scoutgrum, ok i didnt want to go offtopic in here :) this seems to be the most populated WoW channel i've seen yet
14:24.01Grumwell some may bite, like purl!
14:24.14Grumso what boss is biting your ass? ;D
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14:25.08scoutwe cleared ssc/tk just before 2.4 /flex and are now 4/5 3/9, with 2 more raid days this week. it's either gurtogg or archimode
14:25.12scoutarchimonde*
14:25.17CIA-3903gagorian * r69110 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua Data/Paladin.lua):
14:25.17CIA-39DrDamage:
14:25.17CIA-39- Fixed chain heal/chain lightning chain calculation
14:25.17CIA-39- Corrected Holy Shock damage values to 2.4
14:25.21StanzillaFtH|Jamoth: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN < create a new issue there
14:25.26kilrogg~bite scout
14:25.27purlACTION takes a big bite out of scout's jugular vein
14:25.27FtH|Jamothty
14:25.46ScoTTiewhat about teron ?
14:26.01scoutsorry meant teron you are right
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14:26.17Grumscout: Teron Gorefiend you normally take before Bloodboil
14:26.37CIA-3903jjsheets * r69111 10/branches/InfiniBar-2.0/ (4 files):
14:26.37CIA-39InfiniBar-2.0 - Added Standard Button, Embedded Macro, PetAction and
14:26.37CIA-39PossessAction types as decorators to the IB_Button class. Still need Bag and
14:26.38CIA-39Backpack types, and still need a way to apply and remove the decorators on state
14:26.38CIA-39changes and config changes. Also need to design the changes to GUI code.
14:26.39Grumand for Archimonde, just know 'survival is key' and 'doomfires are random'
14:26.41scoutgrum, yep sorry bud coffee hasnt kicked in yet =P
14:26.43CIA-3903shamino * r69112 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell.toc:
14:26.44CIA-39EnchantingSell:
14:26.46CIA-39- removed babble include
14:27.22Grumi assume you know about www.bosskillers.com?  .. if not .. now you do ;)
14:27.38Zyndrome3 AM , CET
14:27.53scoutgrum, so my question (which i know is hard to answer due to not knowing our raid group) is where our next 2 raid days are better spent. we are quick learners, can we learn and kill archi in 2 raid days
14:27.55Zyndromeoh god , wasn't scrolled down
14:28.23scoutgrum, yes actually i was reading EJ forums and saw a post by the bigwigs dev Funkeh that advertised this channel :)
14:28.24ScoTTieits possible
14:28.37Zeksieif people are awake and know how to run the fuck away from fire... sure
14:28.47scoutso i'm doing my research, maintankadin forums are great for tactics when you dont want to read 40 pages at EJ but there isnt much on archi there
14:28.50ScoTTieteron will be easy to get in 2 days though
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14:29.15ScoTTiecould get teron & gurtogg if you're quick enough learners
14:29.21Zeksiehe's dodgy too.. just needs a few ppl who are keyboard retards and you're screwed
14:29.32ramozAntiarc?
14:29.42scoutall the bosses so far have been very easy, everything has been 1shot or 2shot, but i see the free loot bosses are diminishing so its time to put on the robe and wizard hat and get to business ;)
14:30.29Grumscout: Teron requires the raid to be able to play the constructs game (try http://www.variuse.de/feroxtgs2/ for slightly harder than normal practice)
14:30.38sicaI would rather go to Archimonde, he's quite easy and once you know how he works you can easily do MH in 3h and have lots of time for BT
14:30.40Grumbloodboil is not as easy learned imho
14:30.54Grumsica: 3h means wiping?
14:31.00ScoTTiebloodboil is sinch
14:31.06sicayeah, on Archimonde ;)
14:31.07Grumbloodboil is tank-horror
14:31.10scoutgrum, thanks we are requiring everyone to beat this before coming to the raid except some people are unable to use the tab key on the sim =/
14:31.24Grumscout: then they can just click
14:31.31Grumi can do it with click-targetting .. kek
14:31.35scoutsica, kinda what i was thinking
14:31.40sicaIMHO Bloodboil is the hardest encounter in BT
14:31.46scoutgrum, hehe yea i think some people are just making excuses
14:31.51Grumit is because of its random element
14:32.04Grumand serious powerhealing required
14:32.06ScoTTiethink we wipe more on council than bloodboil ;\
14:32.07Zeksiefor teron, mouseover macro for spirit lance... super easy
14:32.16scoutzeksie, roger that ;)
14:32.17nevcairieli just tab
14:32.22nevcairielnever failed
14:32.24Grumsame
14:32.36Grumshift5,4,3tab3tab3tab3tab3tab3tab3
14:32.36nevcairielor if some skeletton runs off to far
14:32.36Gagorian3h in MH? That's shit :C
14:32.38nevcairiel3d-target
14:32.40sicawe always oneshot council, but last week we wiped 3h on bloodboil
14:32.42scoutnow those constructs move pretty fast in the simulator, is that the same speed as the actual encounter?
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14:32.49Zeksienevcairiel: we had lots of ppl who couldn't manage tabbing, but had no problems with mouseovers. spose it depends on the player type.
14:32.49Grumnope
14:32.57Grumreal encounter is about 20% slower movement
14:33.09sicastupid mages not surviving a fel rage :(
14:33.11scoutgrum, ok that should help a little bit :)
14:33.18Grumbut you can do the simulator before having the constructs reach halfway
14:33.38scoutgrum, yep almost every time, like that in real-time also?
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14:34.03Grumwell if you can do it in the simulator, yeah real teron will be the same
14:34.05nevcairielJJSheets: is ButtonFacade usable yet?
14:34.13Grumthe onyl thing you need to worry about is positioning your camera before you die
14:34.17Grumbut even that is piss easy :)
14:34.30Zeksieand don't jam yourself in the corner, or your ghost will get stuck on the boxes
14:34.31sicawell, only the first person getting the shadow on teron has to be fast, after that people can help each other and no construct should ever reach the raid
14:34.33sbAntiarc: mh - class coloring doesnt work anymore :o
14:34.46JJSheetsnevcairiel, yes.  I'm currently using it with IB2 without problems.  It needs more skins available though.  :)
14:34.46scoutsica, excellent! that was my next question
14:35.09nevcairielJJSheets: as long as i can get default skins to work its fine, cyC is such a bitch :D
14:35.19JJSheetslol
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14:36.09Grumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MmuJDUmqoA <-- info video
14:36.13Grumbut you can lance way faster imho
14:36.18Grumhe slacks :)
14:36.23scouthttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Elune&n=agaros
14:36.32scoutthat is who we are thinking of putting infront of archi
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14:37.17scoutand if you look me up i'm currently ret, that is my weekend offspec fun no loladin jokes! :)
14:37.50nevcairielyou should tell him that bulwark of ancient kings is a dps chest :P
14:38.05Grumyes that chest is fail
14:38.08ramozSo
14:38.14scoutit is actually a great tanking chest up until where we are now, he has passed on a lot of gear for other tanks
14:38.19Grumalso, he can get 21 more stamina by just replacing 7 gems :)
14:38.26ramozAnyone else not getting chatterbox name coloring to work?
14:38.59scoutgrum, roger that we have +15 stam gems set aside just for him if we use him. its either that or feral druid. i'll be decursing like crazy
14:39.14Grumuse a warrior imho
14:39.18Grumpanicbuttons ftw
14:39.26Grumalso, stancedance to counter fear
14:39.43sicayeah, it's much easier when you use fear ward for your healers
14:39.56Grumyes, no-one is getting my fearward that fight lol :)
14:40.25Grumofc, everyone healer/melee has to have the 2 minute pvp trinket
14:40.41scoutlol
14:40.45Grumnot kidding
14:40.50Grumunless you want a hard time
14:40.55scouti meant your fearward ;)
14:41.00Grumits mine kek
14:41.10scoutwhat if each group has shammy w/ tremor?
14:41.25Grumhard to guarantee staying in range of totems
14:41.30sicawell, due to the randomness of the fire, you can't always be near the totem
14:41.34Grumseeing you have airbursts+random doomfires
14:41.34scouti was thinking we'd go with the camp strat
14:41.42Grum'camp strat' ?
14:41.46scouti'd mark up shammies with charms (where totems will be) and then assign people to camps
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14:42.27scouton EJ its something many people have said has worked
14:43.33Grumyou ideally make 5 groups, 1 melee (standing @ archi), 4 groups standing in a 'cross shape' to maximize distance, each having at least one decurser
14:43.46Grumand i'd mark the decursers, not the shamans
14:43.54sicayep
14:44.00Grumits easier to look for a green totem than to find a decurser without marks
14:44.14Grumtrick is, 'stay alive'
14:44.17nevcairielthats what we did too, mark the decursers
14:44.23CIA-3903cossy * r69113 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-deDE.lua:
14:44.23CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
14:44.23CIA-39- deDE local updated
14:44.31Grumif you cannot do dps for the whole fight because you are trapped by doomfires .. TOUGH .. its not a dps-race
14:44.32nevcairielalways a druid on fear-ward to dispell curses during fear
14:44.34nevcairieland heal MT
14:44.36Grum1 death usually means a wipe
14:45.02sicaunless your healers are amazing and manage to heal through the soul charges :)
14:45.25Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3642204327&postId=36413169350&sid=1#92 <-obvious troll is obvious
14:45.30Grumwe've survived 5, but not in a sequence, each had at least a minute inbetween
14:45.39Grumbut .. well .. you dont want em
14:45.50Grumalso, have people practice with the tear (slowfall tear you get)
14:45.56sicayeah, and you don't need them
14:45.56Dranor<Grum> 1 death usually means a wipe <- if it's the first time a death means a domino-effect wipe
14:46.13Grumhave them walk a bit back to a high point @ the cliff and toss em off
14:46.16Grumthis is how we train noobies
14:46.19Grumthey have to do it 3 times
14:46.23Fisker-well he only uses soulcharge once
14:46.25Grumbefore we even attempt the dude
14:46.28Fisker-so it's not that hard actually
14:46.43GrumFisker-: erm no, he gains charges for every death and uses em at this own time
14:46.59sicaeveryone has to use every ability to stay alive but not waste them, mages using ice block on the first fire tick or something like that is stupid, keep your cooldowns for the situation where you would die without them
14:47.08Grumbut if someone dies from a soulcharge you are nearly sure to wipe
14:47.10scout<-- reading
14:47.19Fisker-Grum he only does soulcharge once per death
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14:47.39Grumyes, but if someone *dies* from that soulcharge (which is really likely) you will have a chain reaction
14:47.43scoutpallies can decurse also right?
14:47.48Grumdruids/mages
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14:47.52scoutahhh
14:47.52Fisker-never had any problems surviving soulcharge
14:48.06Fisker-unless it's during a fear where some n00b gets doomfired
14:48.17GrumFisker-: try being airbursted and getting the 'knockdown' soulcharge
14:48.26Fisker-gotten that
14:48.30Fisker-what's so special about that?
14:48.40Grumdepending on the time, you have no time to use the tear :)
14:48.49routerhi
14:49.02Grumanyhow, i'm not saying its death perse, i'm just saying getting a chain reaction is very risky
14:49.11Grumsomeone dying there is usually for 'noob' reasons
14:49.36routercan anyone code a simple mod for illidan shear's timer? :p like he does shear around 10-12, after she done 1 shear, resets timer, and show a bar on screen to warn timer on next one?
14:49.54GagorianAre you saying illidan is a shemale?
14:49.57Grumrouter: use dbm's ?
14:50.03GagorianHermaphrodite?!
14:50.22GrumGagorian: demonside is prolly female ;D
14:50.33routerhum dbm doesnt show that fast, my plain is holy shield before 4-5 secs his shear :o
14:50.45GagorianGrum: It seems he/she changes sex after doing a shear
14:50.46routerto make sure all charges not burned before his shear :p
14:50.57GagorianGrum: So it might be that in fact he shears his own malehood off.
14:51.00Grumrouter: bigwigs shows it afaik
14:51.14GrumGagorian: he needs a lot of superglue to get it back on in time when he changes back
14:51.15routerare u sure m8?
14:51.23scoutso we receive something that allows us all to slowfall?
14:51.24Grumrouter: no, check the code
14:51.37Grumscout: yes else you cannot survive airbursts
14:51.45scoutgrum, understood thanks
14:52.00Grumscout: you get http://wowhead.com/?item=24494
14:52.05GagorianEveryone could get a parachute cloak and hope for the best?
14:52.08sicascout: but it takes some practice to use it right
14:52.42GagorianNote: It takes practice for slow people to get it right
14:52.57Grum[16:45:50] <Grum> also, have people practice with the tear (slowfall tear you get)
14:53.00Grum[16:46:13] <Grum> have them walk a bit back to a high point @ the cliff and toss em off
14:53.04Grumyou guys are liek 7 minutes late
14:53.04Xinhuananyone knows if /combatlog records both realms for above/below?
14:53.09Xinhuanfor kalecgos
14:53.11Grumit doesnt xin
14:53.13Grumit fails there
14:53.27Grumat least, i havent seen it do so
14:53.32GagorianGrum: Yeah, I was only specifying that only the failures need practice :C
14:53.33Grumall WWS's from that place look weird
14:53.35scoutgrum, will do thanks bud :)
14:53.43nevcairielit only logs the realm you are currently in
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14:55.51GrumXinhuan: i've got wws's up for kaleg if you want to check it yourself: http://wowwebstats.com/ha3nt6wov65si
14:56.18Xinhuannah
14:56.20Xinhuanno need
14:56.37Xinhuani have my own reports and it looks extremely inaccurate t me
14:56.38Xinhuanto
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14:56.45Grumyeah its silly
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14:57.03Xinhuanits silly, since if someone below /yells
14:57.05Xinhuanyou can hear it above
14:57.23nevcairielthey probably hacked chat in to not be too silly
14:57.42nevcairielactually, combatlog range now is defined "you get anything you can see"
14:57.44Zeksieit's a phased thing. the other units are not UnitIsVisible(), so don't show in log
14:57.47Zeksiesimple as that
14:58.29mnogood evening, I wanted to ask, if it is normal to get no reply from wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com ? Send an request there the 21 of march. I did not even get a no.
14:58.34CIA-3903rabbit * r69114 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Use message event filters for chat handling.
14:58.47Zeksiemno: quite normal
14:58.58mnoZeksie: why?
14:59.31Zeksiejust takes a while. 1-2 weeks often. I pestered in here till i got mine up tho.. :)
15:00.18CIA-3903rabbit * r69115 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua BananaDKP.toc libs/): BananaDKP: No longer needs AceHook.
15:00.38mnoZeksie: Jeah, but a quick look into my calendar tells me, that from 21.3.08 to today there are 3 Weeks exactly ^^
15:00.39Grummno: because no-one really cares for it that much :)
15:01.06Grumi also had to wait a looooong time
15:01.38mnoGrum: that's why I'm here, hopening to fasten up it a little with a little luck ...
15:01.53Grumi think you need Kaelten for that
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15:02.28CIA-3903rabbit * r69116 10SimpleChatMods/ (antispam.lua urlcopy.lua): SimpleChatMods: Use message event filters for antispam and url copy.
15:02.42mnoGrum: Does he hang around in this room from time to time?
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15:03.53Grumwell, he is in this room, just kinda idle ;)
15:04.20mnouh, yeah, did not see him up there in the admins list ^^
15:04.25Trell_which ace addon would you reccomend for selling enchants through whispered !commands?  I'm using CraftBot for my alchemist, but looking for something else enchanting specific
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15:06.30SunTsuTrell_: craftlist2
15:06.59SunTsuTrell_: It is not enchant specific, as it has !gem, !craft and !enchant
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15:10.35CIA-3903next96 * r69117 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
15:10.35CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
15:10.35CIA-39- Update locale koKR
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15:12.16Daemonaanyone know if i can set the input line of chatterbox ontop of the chatframe?
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15:14.56Merl_Daemona: Sure you can, a lot of addons help you do it, like Prat
15:15.13DaemonaMerl_ ... chatterbox is a prat replacement kinda ...
15:15.29durcynyes, you can, Daemona, it's in the Editbox options.
15:16.57Daemonathx durcyn, seems i skipped that menu point ;)
15:18.47[eu]gunderleveling fishing is a real pain :(
15:19.04chdst<PROTECTED>
15:19.20durcyn[eu]gunder: it's pretty simple with something like fishermansfriend
15:19.43[eu]gunderwell I have morons that find it funny to stand where my fishing lins is...
15:19.49Fix[EJ][eu]gunder: Just make sure you to it all in the Wailing Caverns and make some money off of it.
15:20.51routermeh, actually DBM says that shows shear accounce and timer, but is bugged
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15:23.28Daemonahmmm anyone got an idea why cartographer_battleground is using so much cpu when i am in sunwell plateau? http://i32.tinypic.com/1060g2x.jpg
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15:24.13CIA-3903paene * r69120 10Cryolysis2/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
15:24.13CIA-39Cryolysis2:
15:24.13CIA-39- Various bugfixes (tooltips, caching)
15:24.17Fix[EJ]Antiarc: Heh... "this is not meant to be rude in any way but can someone tell me what Chatterbox offers which is not already present in Prat?" "Performance."
15:24.31Stanzilla:P
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15:25.00EricaIs statblocks_quests supposed to be working now?
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15:25.40EricaI'm getting an error message after installation and loading wow...
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15:25.54EricaStatBlocks_Quests\addon.lua:1: Cannot find a library instance of "LibQuixote-2.0"
15:26.12EricaI tried installing the library but am still getting the error
15:26.13Stanzillainstall the Lib?
15:26.26durcynsounds like someone forgot a dependency
15:26.33durcynjust install it manually for the time being
15:26.49EricaI installed the library but still get it.. it's like a pointer is broken somewhere
15:26.58EricaI just can't find it
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15:27.31StanzillaOptDep LibQuixote?
15:27.52EricaIt's in the toc yeah
15:28.28Ericaanyone have a min to take a look to see if it might be something obvious?
15:28.42EricaI really like my other statblocks modules so really wanted to try this out
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15:31.06Ericathe next line of the error is Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub'StatBlocks_Quests\addon.lua:1: in main chunk
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15:32.18balstordo the SVN admins ever wander on to IRC?
15:32.58Fix[EJ]Woah, a HUD with a threat meter...interesting.
15:33.51mnoWant this for my martial art trains: "HUD with threat meter" ^^
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15:43.53JJSheetsI'm off to work.  Have fun ya'll
15:45.01CIA-3903pericles * r69122 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua:
15:45.01CIA-39InventoryOnPar:
15:45.01CIA-39- Additional check to prevent storing score if player of opposing faction cannot be scanned.
15:45.02CIA-3903paene * r69123 10Cryolysis2/messages/core.lua:
15:45.02CIA-39Cryolysis2:
15:45.02CIA-39- Fixed polymorph messages
15:45.04CIA-3903elsia * r69124 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua):
15:45.06CIA-39Recount:
15:45.10CIA-39- Removed possible infinite loop and added debug message if it was indeed the offender.
15:45.12CIA-39- Even more aggressive combatant removal.
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15:52.57PolarinaI got a Lua error: "memory allocation error: block too big" in-game...
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15:55.07Aethenelleare there docs anywhere for Banzailib to LibBanzai-2.0 conversion?
15:57.37Aethenelle... or can someone tell me what events i need to watch for to check aggro change on my target?
15:58.05kergothis it just me or does banzaialert not work anymore?
15:59.16kenlyricit's random
15:59.17CIA-3903krakhaan * r69125 10EnchantBot/ (EnchantBot.lua ReadMe.txt):
15:59.17CIA-39EnchantBot:
15:59.17CIA-39- Fix bug
15:59.32kenlyricwell, in pitbull it's random
15:59.38kergoth:(
15:59.58nevcairielSaroz: go remove babble-spell already! or allow me to fix it :p
15:59.59durcynit works fine.
16:00.07Fix[EJ]Aethenelle: If [targettarget=player] then /print OH FUCK VANISH
16:01.01kenlyriclevel 25 and I finally got some powder for vanish
16:01.10AethenelleFix[EJ]: That'd require a scanning loop...
16:01.28Fix[EJ]Haha, I was being facetious :[
16:01.55AethenelleBanzaiAlert uses banzailib doesn't it?
16:01.57Fix[EJ]I know nothing of coding or LUA other than "lol edit SetWidth to 400 /console reloadui Looks good lets go"
16:03.24PolarinaFix[EJ]: Because LUA doesn't exist.
16:03.38PolarinaFix[EJ]: World of Warcraft uses Lua, which has no relation to LUA.
16:04.24CIA-3903elsia * r69126 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua:
16:04.24CIA-39Recount:
16:04.24CIA-39- Clean fix for infinite loop bug.
16:04.48Fix[EJ]I always do that when I don't look at IRC when I'm typing
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16:08.04PolarinaHas anyone researched player's GUID in a cross-realm battleground?
16:08.54kergothA monster has a single GUID from spawn until death (or despawn). When it respawns it gets a new GUID.
16:08.54kergothPets get a new GUID each time they are summoned.
16:08.55kergothMonster and pet GUIDs can be recycled after server (or instance) restart.
16:08.55kergothPlayers keep their GUID forever, and are unique even in cross-server battlegrounds.
16:08.58kergothaccording to a blizz post i saw
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16:09.20Polarinakergoth: Pets do not get a new GUID each time they are summoned (For Hunters).
16:09.38kergothshrug, that was a blizz post, maybe they changed it after that
16:09.56Polarinakergoth: It never was the way you described.
16:10.11Polarinakergoth: But it does change for Warlock and Mage pets, etc. :)
16:10.20kergothwell, thatll teach me to trust slouken's posts then, wont it?
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16:10.52PolarinaHunters call out their pets, not summon. :P
16:11.01Odlawmaybe when hunter pet dies?
16:11.10kergothat any rate, this was in response to your questiona bout player guid
16:11.13Elsiapets do get new guids for each summon
16:11.14kergothi dont give a flying fuck about the rest
16:11.17Elsiabut their GUID has a persistent part
16:11.22Elsiathe lower bits change
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16:12.48Elsiathat's also true for dismiss/call pet of hunters btw
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16:13.56taskulrafhmm... didnt notice that before.  example: all WoA totems in this log are 0xF130003C5700xxxx
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16:17.14Elsiayep the top-most part is persisten for pets and NPCs alike, see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11418.0
16:19.57vithosAntiarc: when i have Chatterbox enabled, Ace3's CPU usage goes way up when i use my G15 to spam a shot rotation macro
16:20.39kergothweird
16:21.04Fix[EJ]Solution: DON'T DEPEND ON YOUR G15!
16:21.17Paeneis just calling GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(itemlink]) enough to ensure that an item is cached?
16:21.20taskulrafElsia: interesting.  thanks for the link.
16:21.31Paeneer without the ]
16:21.39Elsianp
16:21.45CIA-3903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r69127 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: update .toc to OptDep LSM-3.0
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16:24.20vithosmake my class mechanics not suck, then i'll stop using macros
16:24.26Fix[EJ]Oh man, everyone seems to be updating to LSM3.0
16:24.28Fix[EJ]That makes me happy.
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16:26.28CIA-3903broesel01 * r69128 10Quiet_Npc/Quiet_Shattrath.lua:
16:26.28CIA-39Quiet_Npc
16:26.28CIA-39- Bugfix
16:28.10kergothwonder if i should pick up an n52te.. this wolf king warrior is a bit too much, plus it isnt programmable
16:28.12kergothhm
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16:30.57CIA-3903paene * r69129 10Cryolysis2/ (Developer Notes.txt buttons/managem.lua):
16:30.57CIA-39Cryolysis2:
16:30.57CIA-39- Fixed mana gem error
16:31.57sb*cry* Antiarc, please fix playername colors :O
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16:33.54charonkergoth: "Gain a competitive edge with ... cool blue backlighting"
16:34.07kergoth<PROTECTED>
16:34.07charonright. i can already see my enemies run scared from my eerie blue backdrop
16:34.19kergothi like the short stroke keys as comapred to the old model, the rest, meh
16:35.24CIA-3903nevcairiel * r69130 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/Bartender4.lua):
16:35.24CIA-39cyCircled:
16:35.24CIA-39- rip out BT4 plugin since it wasnt really working anyway
16:38.01sbso BT4 is finished now? :P
16:41.20kadrahilanyone ever bought mats to craft fsw
16:41.22kadrahillike all of them?
16:41.32kadrahilerr not fsw, i meant whitemend
16:41.35kadrahiland pmc
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16:44.28taskulrafkadrahil: it'll vary from server to server.  on Icecrown, buying mats for WM off the AH used to run ~1000g per piece.
16:44.41kadrahiltaskulraf: ah
16:44.44taskulrafI dunno about PMC cause I made that aaaages ago.
16:45.04kadrahilok
16:45.05Fix[EJ]Is there any way to have the "LookingForGroup" channel...not take up a channel number?
16:45.22Fix[EJ]Even if you're not actively looking for a group it reservers a /1 /2 /3 etc and its annoying :[
16:45.35CIA-3903gagorian * r69131 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
16:45.36CIA-39DrDamage:
16:45.36CIA-39- Removed delay from 'Attack' tooltip, need to figure out another way of doing it that doesn't cause problems
16:46.16GagorianSo, can anyone figure out a way of preventing Blizzard UI spamming the shit out of SetSpell/SetAction when hovering the Attack tooltip?
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16:47.57CIA-3903paene * r69132 10Cryolysis2/messages/core.lua:
16:47.57CIA-39Cryolysis2:
16:47.57CIA-39- When using GetSpellInfo(), it helps to pass it a spellid!
16:52.13CIA-3903gagorian * r69133 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
16:52.13CIA-39DrDamage:
16:52.13CIA-39- Also enable avg windfury display on offhand
16:52.43CIA-3903benumbed * r69134 10DaHud/ (modules/Bars/Core.lua plugins/Bars/Experience.lua):
16:52.43CIA-39DaHud:
16:52.43CIA-39<PROTECTED>
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16:53.31CIA-3903wobin * r69135 10Xparky/ (Bar.lua Options.lua Xparky.lua):
16:53.31CIA-39Xparky - Various changes
16:53.31CIA-39- Delete bar
16:53.31CIA-39- Attach bar now works
16:53.31CIA-39- Still having some issues with colours not showing.
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17:08.03Fisker-Antiarc you here_
17:08.06Fisker-_
17:08.07Fisker-?
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17:10.56Stanzillahe's sleeping
17:11.48Fisker-awwwright
17:12.43CIA-3903oojoo * r69136 10IHML/locales/locale-deDE.lua:
17:12.43CIA-39IHML:
17:12.43CIA-39- deDE update
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17:13.21CIA-3903funkydude * r69137 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Add enrage
17:13.22mikmavhaarr: I NEED YOU! NOTICE ME NOW!
17:13.35vhaarrmikma: oO
17:13.57mikmavhaarr: what about a feature to paste the mobnotes into chat with keybind? would be extremely hot
17:14.04mikmavhaarr: like burning hot
17:14.20vhaarrmikma: that's not a bad idea indeed
17:14.48CIA-3903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r69138 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (9 files):
17:14.48CIA-39Bartender4:
17:14.48CIA-39- remove cyCircled support
17:14.48CIA-39- add preliminary ButtonFacade support (still some bugs in it)
17:14.48CIA-39- this also replaces the built-in skin selection for the bars (for now)
17:14.49Fisker-doh of course
17:15.02kergothheh, then you'd just need a keybind that dumps both mobnotes and mobspells data on the target in one press :)
17:15.22ben___Is UnitFactionGroup("player") available at addon loading time?
17:15.36ben___Ah. :|
17:15.40mikmavhaarr: something like if the mob is your target -securing
17:16.07DashkalButtonFacade replacing cyCircled?
17:16.36vhaarrben___: no, you have to wait for PEW
17:16.39CIA-3903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r69139 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Bartender4.toc ButtonStyle.lua): Bartender4: remove empty file
17:16.43vhaarrmikma: "-securing" ?
17:16.56Cheadshmm has there been any information about Atiesh in the new Naxxramas(in WotLK)
17:17.05ben___vhaarr: But UnitRace("player") is immediately available, right?
17:17.09vhaarrben___: yes
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17:17.19ben___Yes. This makes sense.
17:17.25Cheadswonder if I should keep my splinters =)
17:17.48vhaarrCheads: I seem to remember something about an upgrade quest line, but not what it was.
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17:18.00vhaarrperhaps it was just "no, there will not be an upgrade questline"
17:18.00DashkalNo official word but with their strong desire not to update oranges I'd be betting on no
17:18.03mikmavhaarr: meaning, don't paste the target you have mouseovered :P that's not cool. but if the mob is your target and it has mobnotes = paste
17:18.11vhaarrmikma: right
17:18.15vithosi think i remember hearing there won't be an upgrade
17:19.16CheadsI dont have that staff... just some [Splinter of Atiesh] .. guess I won't be able to use them
17:19.31Fix[EJ]Antiarc: For Chatterbox... hh:mm:ss 12-hour without am/pm would be a nice option for timestamps
17:19.36DashkalI'm guessing Atiesh will be grandfathered with WotLK
17:20.02Fix[EJ]And a way to set the timestamp brackets to something custom too, I guess.
17:20.08kenlyricaetish will be a blue quest reward you get to get keyed to naxx2.0
17:20.13kergothFix[EJ]: yea i suggested taht too, as well as a way to change the timestamp color
17:20.15kergothwould be nice
17:20.28Fix[EJ]Timestamp color changing is in right now, actually
17:20.38dylanmAntiarc making mods.
17:21.30NeoTronso this week, on RoS, I was basically doing no DPS at all on RoS because Omen said I was going to pull aggro
17:21.45NeoTronbtu finally I just stepped out of the way and went full out and was at at least 140% threat when anger died
17:21.59NeoTronso it seems warrior threat at least is underreported now by a fair amount
17:22.11NeoTronwe had previous fights where rogues were at 120% or so and didn't pull aggro
17:22.31ckknightAce3 needs better docs :-(
17:23.11DashkalSo does rock :p (Tutorial/use example type, the API docs are great)
17:23.33ckknightthat's true, actually
17:23.41ckknightbut Ace3 seems to be lacking in API docs that I can find
17:23.50ckknightunless it's in a place I'm not looking
17:23.52Dashkalnogs
17:23.55NeoTronace3 was sort of trial and error and reading source for me
17:24.03dylanmI just read the source/tests/limited help files.
17:24.04Dashkalwtb lua javadoc...
17:24.07ckknightthat's not a good way to code, you write docs first.
17:24.08NeoTronbut I also had no prior ace2 experience really
17:24.08dylanmWhat do you find you need the most?
17:24.13ckknightDashkal: we have it, it's called AutoDoc
17:24.19Dashkalgief!
17:24.27dylanmLike, I think AceAddon/CBH/Event are all kind of...
17:24.31ckknightDashkal: all my stuff is AutoDoc'd
17:24.35ckknightdylanm: AceGUI-3.0
17:24.37dylanmAh.
17:24.44ckknightand actually, every library should be documented
17:24.45DashkalI see these references to autogenerated docs, but I haven't seen a trace of the tool
17:24.46Fisker-want chatterbox to have a SOUNDSPAM MODULE RAWR
17:24.47ckknight...before coding.
17:24.47Fisker-do want
17:24.58DashkalI'd _love_ to be writing my comments so that thing can be used
17:25.07ckknightDashkal: take a look at my libs.
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17:25.40DashkalActually, what I really want is the eclipse JDT outline view when browsing Lua code.
17:25.54Fix[EJ]kergoth: Where would be the appropriate place to request features? The thread on the wowace forums?
17:26.03DashkalSadly, writing a full out lua parser is a lil bit beyond my skill.
17:26.45kergothFix[EJ]: thatd probably be best.  can pester him on irc, but he's not active at the moment, and theres no record of it that way
17:27.04Dashkalooo, pretty: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format
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17:27.45SnagoAttention all newbs who want to learn to make your own Ace3 addons! http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon is ready for testing. If you encounter any problems please poke me about it so I can make it better :)
17:28.23ckknightSnago: now write docs for all the libs and I might use Ace3 :-P
17:28.27Dashkalcheers at Snago
17:28.41ChompersNeoTron: you're a warrior?
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17:28.57Chompersalways assumed you were a warlock
17:28.57CIA-3903Tristan * r69140 10EquivalencePoints/ (Console.lua EquivalencePoints.lua locale/enUS.lua):
17:28.57CIA-39EquivalencePoints:
17:28.57CIA-39- Added commandline support for 0.01 settings to values
17:29.19SnagoWriting documentaion is boring :\
17:29.55ckknightyea, that's why you should do it first before actually coding
17:30.08ckknightthen make sure the code matches the docs
17:30.34ckknightokay, I'm heading into the office
17:30.56Fisker-:O
17:30.58DashkalThat is the one good habit java taught me (say what you like about the rest of the language) javadoc encourages good documentation practice.
17:30.59SnagoBut that would require alot of boring thinking before the fun begins :P
17:31.01ChompersFisker-
17:31.02Fisker-my initial memory usage is below 30MiB
17:31.07Chompersstop watching me
17:31.08Fisker-sick!
17:31.31CIA-3903anea * r69141 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc compatibility.lua core.lua readme.txt):
17:31.31CIA-39SpamSentry:
17:31.31CIA-39- Updated filters, added compatibility for Whisp addon.
17:32.02CIA-3903adirelle * r69142 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/warlock.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: typo.
17:32.04ElsiaSnago: very nice
17:32.17DashkalSnago: You think that's bad?  I've got a problem to solve in nexus that I'm probably going to have to resort to UML diagramming to get it sorted out :p
17:32.20NeoTronChompers: I am a warlock
17:32.35NeoTronElsia: so from what I could see after a night in BT, Recount sat around 11-12 MB
17:32.41NeoTronand I didn't even see Ace3 on the memory use
17:32.47Chompersoh sorry, i must've misread your text
17:33.00ElsiaNeoTron: that's very good actually, that's roughly what I hope it to be at
17:33.09NeoTronChompers: as a dpser I noticed I went way above 130% threat w/o pulling aggro
17:33.16Elsiaand yes, it no longer uses acedb-3.0 so no implicit table creations anymore
17:33.18NeoTronhuge improvement for sure
17:33.38NeoTronChompers: so something seems significantly off
17:33.42Chompersindeed
17:33.51NeoTronlet me see
17:34.16NeoTronI predict my damage on RoS was very low
17:34.26DashkalIs is going to sound pretty sad, but to _not_ use one of the database mods, I just declare a var in the TOC and use it?  At what event do I know my saved var is loaded?
17:34.28CIA-3903rabbit * r69143 10MobNotes/ (Bindings.xml MobNotes.lua): MobNotes: Add mob notes for MGT + a keybinding to output the targets note to raid/party/say.
17:34.35vhaarrmikma: done and done
17:34.39NivFreakNeoTron: you adding that sweet feature to MM today? ;)
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17:34.52Chompersyou've probably done archi right NeoTron, what can i do to make people not stand in the fire?
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17:34.58Chompersshouting doesn't work
17:35.10NivFreakgremove
17:35.20NeoTronChompers: cry blood?
17:35.22mikmavhaarr: sweet lord, MGT!
17:35.26NeoTronNivFreak: MD > MM
17:35.31NivFreakNeoTron: no!
17:35.38NeoTronneed to add stuff so I can stop uding CT_RT entirely
17:35.46NivFreakNeoTron: no!
17:35.50NeoTronyes
17:35.53NivFreakveto!
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17:36.14NeoTronman how annohying that WoW doesn't exit correctly
17:36.24NeoTronI thought they were supposed to haev fixed that?
17:36.28NivFreakvhaarr: do you have a good way to recontribute mobnotes?
17:36.41vhaarrNivFreak: you mean except giving me your savedvariables?
17:36.42NivFreakNeoTron: seems a bit less frequent, but still happens
17:36.51vithosNeoTron: there was a patch note saying it was caused by the sound system and fixed, but yeah it still happens to me
17:36.51NivFreakvhaarr: yes ;)
17:36.55vhaarrno
17:36.58NivFreakk
17:37.15SnagoDashkal: Yes and it's loaded when ADDON_LOADED fires with your addon name as the first arg
17:37.45CIA-3903anea * r69144 10Whisp/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
17:37.45CIA-39Whisp:
17:37.45CIA-39- Fixed garbage collection.
17:37.45CIA-39- Chatbox pane is now click-through when locked.
17:37.45CIA-39- Option added to hide pane in combat.
17:37.46CIA-39- Fixed bug with the pane not showing when a name was not correctly capitalised.
17:37.48CIA-39- Fixed bug with the pane not hiding when changing chat-target or channel.
17:38.04NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/qzqiom5rywr21?s=12932-13019
17:38.05NeoTronerr
17:38.16NeoTronso I guess I wasn't low after all
17:38.24DashkalSnago: danke
17:38.29NeoTron90% precense, 88% dps time
17:38.32NeoTronI was standing around a lot
17:39.00NeoTronmaybe I actually WAS that high on threat - still I think I should have pulled in the end
17:39.04taskulrafChompers: archi sounds like "ok guys now remember to stay aware of the fire at all times.  it's ok if you do nothing but run away from the fire.  No one was ever yelled at on archi for staying away from the fire.  oh god it's looping around on the melee.  aaaa fuck why are 8 people on fire jesus christ"
17:39.43NeoTronChompers: basically Archi is frustrating
17:40.04CIA-3903rabbit * r69145 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Bad commit.
17:40.34taskulrafwhen learning, I suggest you do a shot every time you wipe.  actually, just do a shot every time you wipe no matter the boss or reason.  It really helps dull the pain.
17:40.43ben___Any hints on sending quest links if I only know quest id, level and name and not the actual link?
17:40.43kergoththat whisp addon looks cute, might use it if i didnt already use WIM
17:40.45CIA-39tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rb0b8dab 10/: Add QuestID tracking for future use
17:40.49CIA-39tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * ra0fd646 10/: Ally searing gorge tweaks
17:40.52CIA-39tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rb9f1a24 10/: Remove ally STV 48-49
17:42.31DashkalI'd expect a construct like |cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r only with a different color and quest:<questid> instead of item
17:43.20ben___So I have to figure out the color myself?
17:43.44kergothyou have to do that for items, why wouldnt you have to for quests?
17:43.48Dashkalben___: Check this page for hints: http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemLink
17:43.51vhaarrWhat was that small addon called again that gives you a little frame telling you if your target has buff X, Y and Z on it or not?
17:43.55DashkalIt includes code to cough up a link in raw form
17:44.09kergothvhaarr: buff or debuff? i know pdebufflist/demon do the debuffs tuff
17:44.11taskulrafvhaarr: Deamon?
17:44.15vhaarrdebuff, right
17:44.15DashkalYou should be able to feed a quest link to that code to get the correct color and such
17:44.33NivFreakdemon
17:44.52vhaarrDemon, yes, thanks.
17:44.57kergothpdebufflist is more minimal and hardcoded debuffs, demon has fubar plugin and you can add/remove deubffs to the list
17:44.59NivFreakI love that addon
17:46.36Dashkalben___: Refresh that page if you're there.  I just added a link to questString.
17:46.39ShotskiIs there any way to check if a name given as a string is a player?
17:46.42ben___Thanks
17:46.56CIA-3903gagorian * r69146 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:46.56CIA-39DrDamage:
17:46.56CIA-39- Fixed DPS calculation for channeled spells, nobody told me GetSpellInfo returns 0 as their cast time!
17:47.00ben___I got as far from dismantingling my own quests
17:47.06CIA-3903benumbed * r69147 10DaHud/Config.lua:
17:47.06CIA-39DaHud:
17:47.06CIA-39<PROTECTED>
17:47.11ben___Just wondering about colors. I do not have an orange quest in my log :(
17:47.29sag_ich_nicht[19:46] <CIA-39> - Fixed DPS calculation for channeled spells, nobody told me GetSpellInfo returns 0 as their cast time! <--wow that's stupid
17:47.35Dashkalsuggest making a lowbie and nabbing the level 5 go to the next town quest?
17:47.57ben___Hassling my guild right now, seems easier
17:48.01Dashkallol
17:48.11vhaarrShotski: that depends what kind of group the player belongs to and if you have to include offline people or not
17:48.32Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: Yeah it's annoying *_*
17:48.34vhaarrShotski: you can check your group, raid and guild, but for server-wide checks you can't verify if a offline player exists or not
17:48.38GagorianI had already removed all special code for bloodlust etc.
17:48.39Dashkalmmm, I should make myself a link generator.  Feed quest, spell, or item id and instant link
17:48.42chexsumtoo many ally noobs have joined the horde sidde imho
17:48.43vhaarrShotski: you can only /who
17:48.43GagorianAnd now I needed to add it back
17:49.00chexsumi blame blood elves
17:49.03Dashkalchexsum: Good, you can have some of them.  we have plenty :p
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17:49.18sag_ich_nichtGagorian: i think you should get someone to report this in the US forums
17:49.23chexsumnelfers have rerlooed :(
17:49.24sag_ich_nichti don't think this is intended :P
17:49.36Matrix110well channeled spells are instant!
17:49.59GagorianYes, but they still have a cast time.. so I guess it's a matter of what we are refering to
17:50.19ben___How exactly do the colors work anyway?
17:50.23GagorianHowever it would be more useful to get their channeling time from the API
17:50.25Gagorianthan a constant 0
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17:50.42chexsum_ugh@disco
17:50.44Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: You're better at whining at people to get stuff done!
17:50.52sag_ich_nichtokay hold on
17:50.55Dashkal|cAARRGGBB<text>|r
17:50.55CIA-3903funkydude * r69148 10BigWigs/SC/Karathress.lua: BigWigs: SC/Karathress: 2.4 update
17:51.18chexsum_sag, its all bloodelves fault!
17:51.26chexsum_hear me out
17:51.41chexsum_just because theyre sessy doesnt mean they can play
17:52.01chexsum_right ?
17:52.28Aneakergoth: thx :) I could even add a nice background texture with hearts for added cuteness if you like :P
17:52.47sag_ich_nichtchexsum shaddup
17:52.56ShotskiI thought so, ty vhaarr
17:53.13chexsum_omfg dissed by sag
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17:53.27chexsum_im rank12 goddamit
17:53.37chexsum_respect!
17:54.09kergothhehe
17:54.21chexsum_dont laugh at me
17:54.32chexsum_im drunk but im not a fool!
17:55.00chexsum_these bloodelves are umm
17:55.17sag_ich_nichtcome back if you're rank 14(good luck with that), justicar or merciless gladiator nubcake, because those are the only pvp titles i give a damn about, and even then, they are just titles
17:55.21chexsum_ugh
17:55.27chexsum_wtf
17:55.35ChompersElsia: Recount-69126\Recount_Modes.lua:225: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
17:55.43chexsum_i was 3 weeks from r14 12 weeks played!$!#@$!
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17:56.11chexsum_hissses @ sag_noob_cakes
17:56.12Elsiak
17:56.16nevcairielnow justicar doesnt mean shit sag_ich_nicht :P
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17:56.49chexsum_im not sto[[ing at a ban from wow :P
17:56.52nevcairielI was Gladiator after season1, but didnt continue arena afterwards
17:57.03ElsiaChompers: you using RecountFu?
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17:57.04NeoTronanyone else noticed RoS phase 1 behaving strangely since 2.4 btw?
17:57.09NeoTronaggro seems completely wacky
17:57.10Chompersi am Elsia
17:57.22Elsiak
17:57.26NeoTronwe had the tank standing right under before an enrage and she went for the top threat dpser isntead
17:57.52sag_ich_nichtshe?
17:57.55sag_ich_nichti still call it it.
17:58.03NeoTronseems female
17:58.08sag_ich_nichtwell
17:58.14sag_ich_nichtthe essences are yes
17:58.18sag_ich_nichtbut the reliquary itself, no
17:58.27NeoTronwell sure
17:58.34Gnarfozyou don't fight the reliquary itself, now do you.
17:58.43durcynsag_ich_nicht, you pedantic bastard
17:58.52NeoTronnice
17:58.53Gnarfozdurcyn: s/pedantic//
17:58.57NeoTron50% crit on Akama last night
17:59.10sag_ich_nicht[19:58] <durcyn> sag_ich_nicht, you pedantic bastard <--\o/
17:59.21sag_ich_nicht[19:58] <Gnarfoz> you don't fight the reliquary itself, now do you. <--yeah but NeoTron said RoS phase 1
17:59.38sag_ich_nichtnot Essence of Suffering
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17:59.57nevcairielsaying RoS p1 implies that he is fighting the essence
18:00.02nevcairielbecause thats what you do in p1
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18:00.10chexsum_:x
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18:00.54NeoTronbecause I don't remember which essence is which
18:01.00sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: it may imply that information, but grammatically "she" was still wrong
18:01.00chexsum_*/w chanops ill be gone soon
18:01.16CIA-3903elsia * r69149 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua:
18:01.16CIA-39Recount:
18:01.16CIA-39- Fix for nil error in MergePet handling
18:01.29CIA-3903rabbit * r69150 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: CraftyGnome: Use message event filters instead of hooking MessageEventHandler.
18:01.47nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: why was the grammar wrong? he just thinks of the essence as female, i dont see the error
18:01.50Chompersthanks Elsia
18:02.09chexsum_sag_ich_nicht, why did we get bloodelves
18:02.21chexsum_its not rightr!#!@
18:02.25sag_ich_nichtchexsum_ because you touch yourself at night
18:02.36chexsum_but thats good
18:02.40chexsum_bloodelves arent
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18:02.53sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: the sentence refered to the reliquary not the essence, even if it IMPLIED that the essence is meant.
18:03.02ShotskiHmm.
18:03.04sag_ich_nichti will not have assumptions in my language logic
18:03.09sag_ich_nichtget out
18:03.09ShotskiMy database isn't saving :(
18:03.12chexsum_thos damed-to-hell pakladins belves ruined wow
18:03.15nevcairielnatural langauge is all about assumptions
18:03.24nevcairielotherwise we would have to talk way too much
18:03.25chexsum_and wtf @ draine shaman
18:03.30chexsum_thats cruelty
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18:03.59chexsum_they wtf-2-shot-you-noob my priest :(
18:04.28chexsum_IM A FORSAKEN PRIEST GODAAMIT R`2
18:04.38ShotskiI'd assumed my database was working fine, because my window location appears to save itself between sessions.
18:04.43chexsum_i deserve better
18:04.50ShotskiApparently though, that's nothing I'm doing
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18:04.56chexsum_im crying
18:05.05chexsum_<PROTECTED>
18:05.11chexsum_<PROTECTED>
18:05.14ckknight~comfort chexsum
18:05.15purlThere, there, chexsum.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
18:05.18ShotskiI might as well delete the whole frame's save/load position function, because it's certainly not saving anything, so it can't be loading anything
18:05.35ShotskiSo now I wonder, how DO I get AceDB-3.0 to save anything at all?
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18:05.38chexsum_those dammdend to alliance draine shaman
18:05.41Fisker-anyone know any trix clothies can do with teron gorefiend btw?
18:05.46Fisker-alliance = boo
18:05.51chexsum_wtf fisker
18:05.58Fisker-especially when it's a draenei shaman called chinchilla :o
18:06.04chexsum_dont side with trhose ugly things
18:06.44chexsum_disinstallswtf chuinchilla
18:07.15chexsum_k i didnt thatd take sober brain powers :(
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18:07.32ShotskiI can only assume I'm trying to init the db wrong
18:07.33chexsum_14 eots losses!
18:08.17chexsum_i should ressurect my alliance nelf rogue :x
18:09.19chexsum_bg9 horde is pathetic atm
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18:11.54chexsum_were doing ok in av now but succing at eots
18:11.57CIA-3903broesel01 * r69151 10Quiet_Npc/ (Karazhan.lua Quiet_Npc - ReadMe.txt Quiet_Npc.toc):
18:11.57CIA-39Quiet_Npc
18:11.57CIA-39- Karazhan/Gebirgspass geaddet
18:11.57CIA-39- Npc's geaddet
18:12.29ShotskiOK, I'm clearly doing something wrong
18:12.41chexsum_nice nick shotski
18:12.51Superfly_why is it called quit_npc if the description is german?
18:12.54Superfly_quite
18:13.00chexsum_quiet
18:13.14ckknightyou be quiet
18:13.14chexsum_reminisces about quite
18:13.16Superfly_ok, must learn to type :P
18:13.17ShotskiI would just be Shot, but some japanese fella has it on this network :(
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18:14.14chexsum_shotski is a drinking term
18:14.19Daemonasilence, i kill you !
18:14.21chexsum_and im drinking
18:14.21chexsum_]
18:14.23Daemonascnr
18:14.27chexsum_so it rovks
18:14.52Fisker-I WANT TO KILL PEOPLE
18:14.57Fisker-stupid spammers
18:15.03sag_ich_nichtFisker-: SUICIDE
18:15.04chexsum_event server noob!
18:15.05Fisker-it consumes me
18:15.07chexsum_lets do this
18:15.20chexsum_j/k im just a pubber
18:15.30chexsum_:(
18:16.10sag_ich_nichtFisker- you're a spammer yourself your argument is invalid
18:16.10sag_ich_nichtD:
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18:16.46chexsum_sag
18:16.50KalrothAntiaaarc
18:16.59chexsum_youre claling the kettle black
18:17.39GeloAny warlock her with ZOMG buff know if detect invis works? /friend asking
18:17.46chexsum_laer wowacerseroz
18:17.55Kalrothbye crc16!
18:18.50charonAntiarc/nevcairiel/*: anyone have some spare time to sanity-check my thoughts? Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua confuses me
18:19.02nevcairielwhat there?
18:19.50NeoTronso let me say this - supremus new melee attack range is just stupidly large
18:19.52charonwell first, Warrior.lua:256 -- hasn't that kind of event been disabled in 2.4?
18:20.07sag_ich_nicht[20:16] <chexsum_> youre claling the kettle black <--lol
18:20.14charon(however, that function runs via MobDebuffHandlers code path too, so it doesn't matter. imho.)
18:20.33charonthe real issue however: grep for CastLandedHandlers in ThreatClassModuleCore.lua
18:21.16charon... doh.
18:21.45nevcairielhm yeah the event doesnt work anymore
18:21.49charonwell, never mind. i was wondering where threat for those was ever added, but Warrior.lua:171 builds small AddThreat functions
18:22.17nevcairielyeah its a confusing design
18:23.16NeoTronerr
18:23.27NeoTronThreat doesn't actually care that soul shatter can be resisted?
18:23.34nevcairielit does
18:23.37NeoTronwhere?
18:24.09NeoTronit seems to just loop through all threat targets and multiply by 0.5?
18:24.42nevcairielhm it used to only act on the "landed" event
18:24.53nevcairielmaybe that was bugged or something
18:25.06NeoTronnow it seems to only act on the casted event
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18:25.12NeoTronignoring "landed"
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18:25.37nevcairielnot sure you even get a landed event
18:25.50nevcairielmaybe only the warlock sees it
18:25.56nevcairielat least i dont have any in my log dumps
18:25.59nevcairielbut i am no lock :P
18:26.16sag_ich_nicht[20:25] <nevcairiel> maybe only the warlock sees it <--it shouldn't be doing that
18:26.16sag_ich_nichtD:
18:26.30NeoTronso looking in the cobmat log
18:26.35sag_ich_nichtif it is report it so it can get fixed before 2.4.2 goes into deep freeze D:
18:26.38NeoTronit only shows that I cast it and that it was resisted
18:27.00charon4/9 19:25:13.715  SPELL_MISSED,0x00000000000277E1,"Ged",0x514,0xF1300045E9000890,"Crypt Fiend",0xa48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,RESIST
18:27.00charon4/9 19:25:13.754  SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x00000000000277E1,"Ged",0x514,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,29858,"Soulshatter",0x20
18:27.02nevcairielyeah not sure if thats a bug in the log or expected behaviour, i bet Antiarc has the details
18:27.06charonnote the odd order of events
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18:27.38nevcairielif its guaranteed to be always in that order
18:27.38NeoTronso you have to divide by half on all targets and multiple by 2 on all taht it missed on
18:27.43nevcairielthat would allow us to easily track it
18:27.45nevcairielbut if its not..
18:27.55sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: soulshatter has a long cooldown
18:28.00sag_ich_nichtso it doesn't really matter
18:28.02NeoTron4/11 01:07:31.292  SPELL_MISSED,0x0000000000C27B64,"Aminai",0x511,0xF1300059A3001346,"Mother Shahraz
18:28.08NeoTron",0x10a48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,RESIST
18:28.11NeoTron4/11 01:07:31.292  SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x0000000000C27B64,"Aminai",0x511,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x800
18:28.16NeoTron00000,29858,"Soulshatter",0x20
18:28.19nevcairielyour lines are too short :P
18:28.19NeoTrontiming wise that's the exact same time
18:28.39charoni'm no lock, those lines might have gotten mangled up on the way to my combat log ;)
18:28.47NeoTronseems misses are always before success
18:28.48nevcairielheh
18:29.03nevcairieli recommend bringing that to Antiarc when he wakes up
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18:29.18NeoTron4/10 22:01:32.823  SPELL_MISSED,0x0000000000CCC4F1,"Nawtilock",0x512,0xF130005B2B00132C,"Illidari Heartseeker",0x2020a48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,IMMUNE
18:29.23NeoTron4/10 22:01:32.823  SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x0000000000CCC4F1,"Nawtilock",0x512,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,29858,"Soulshatter",0x20
18:29.26PaeneWoW Matrix any good?
18:29.27NeoTronanother example
18:29.36dylanmrofl
18:29.59charonnevcairiel: afaict Warlock.lua never registers any CastMissHandlers
18:30.32NeoTronbut order is not correct
18:31.12sag_ich_nicht[20:29] <Paene> WoW Matrix any good? <--rofl
18:31.13sag_ich_nichtNO
18:31.15NeoTronmeaning order is arbitrary
18:31.34Paenewhat's so bad about it?
18:31.39sag_ich_nichteverything
18:31.49Paenethat's descriptive
18:31.51Fisker-i like how kael'thas reinforcements come by boat when his army is in outland
18:31.53Ironhanddoes anyone know of an addon that can create a database of any in-game links? think not just item links, also links to spells, quests, etc...
18:32.12Fisker-mobspells!
18:33.28NeoTronhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12127.new#327
18:34.20NeoTronso you get messages for spell id 32835 when you fail
18:34.28NeoTron29858 is sent on the cast
18:34.41NeoTronand it seems sometimes also when indicating failure (in the immunity case)
18:35.06vhaarrwowwiki.com down?
18:35.08nevcairielyeah Antiarc already has both ids in the warlock module
18:35.13nevcairielprobably just missed it somehow
18:35.43vhaarrah there it is, just slow
18:37.20NeoTronsoul shatter should probably return success messages for spell id 32835  but it seems like it doesn't
18:37.42nevcairielyeah i think he was tracking that before
18:37.51nevcairielthen did a quick fix with the spell cast
18:37.56Shotskiok, i'm stumped.
18:37.56nevcairielbecause it doesnt fire success
18:38.16NeoTronI'd almost rather it didn't tell me I lost threat when I might not have :P
18:38.18NeoTronbut yeah
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18:38.26ShotskiAceDB-3.0 saves things fine, when it created the db for the first time.
18:38.38ShotskiAny time after that, it doesn't load saved vars, and won't add any more
18:38.39NeoTronalthough other than shahraz I have full spell hit anyway
18:38.40nevcairielShotski: when do you call AceDB:New?
18:39.08Shotskibefore most other things?
18:39.37ShotskiI'm guessing now it should be in OnInitialize, or something along those lines
18:39.41ShotskiI'm pretty new to this :)
18:39.45nevcairielyes it should :)
18:40.01ShotskiIt still intrigues met hat it appears to work fine the first time, then just stops
18:40.12nevcairielOh thats eas
18:40.14nevcairiel*easy
18:40.15Shotskiit doesn't clear the db to defaults, but it doesn't save anything either
18:40.23nevcairielFirst time you do not have any SV
18:40.29nevcairielso WoW cannot overwrite it
18:40.36nevcairielbut second time, you already have saved data
18:40.45nevcairieland the SV is loaded just before OnInit
18:41.00nevcairielso anything that works with or requires the DB, should be done in OnInit or later
18:41.05nevcairielincluding the :New call :)
18:41.11ShotskiI see
18:42.15ShotskiAh ha, wonderful
18:42.30ShotskiMuch <3 heading down the tubes in your direction
18:42.54CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69152 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Threat-2.0: merge 68740:69101 from trunk
18:43.06ShotskiNow it's left me wondering where my frame saves it's location o.o
18:43.16nevcairielheh
18:43.31nevcairielthere is a layout-cache.txt in your WTF/account/server/char dir
18:43.49nevcairielunless you explicitly save it yourself and restore its position
18:43.54CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69153 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-2.0: Possible fix for Soulshatter resists
18:44.00charonNeoTron: test that if you will ;)
18:44.15NeoTronI'll wait for trunk :P
18:44.22nevcairielheh
18:44.37charonit relies on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED firing before CLEU gets told about the miss hoewver
18:45.05charon(it also relies on the transaction functions doing what their names suggest)
18:45.05ShotskiThe most basic functionality of my addon is now working :D
18:46.35NeoTroncharon: MISS is sent BEFORE  spell cast succeeded
18:46.52NeoTrondid you look at my post I linked above?
18:46.54balstordoes anyone know if threat tracking is comming back to recount or do i wait for recount2?
18:47.10NeoTron_sometimes_ (on the immunity case at least) theer's a miss message sent after succeeded
18:47.15NeoTronfor resists it's only sent before
18:47.27charonwell yes, C_L_EVENT_UNFILTERED("SPELL_CAST_MISSED") is fired before C_L_E_U("SPELL_CAST_SUCCEEDED")
18:47.45Noctsrawr
18:47.50charonbut what about UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, which actually fires the soulshatter transaction even in trunk?
18:47.52balstoryes charon
18:48.35balstorin fact if you watch it C_L_E_U spellcast start is sent before the UI knows you have a spell cast
18:48.40charoni believe it would make perfect sense if USS fired before CLEU("..whatever.."), but then again it's hard to say with no lock alt and no WoW open
18:48.46charonhmm.
18:49.03nevcairieli have a lock alt, but no wow open :P
18:49.06balstorI have a swing timer and serious issues while converting it over
18:49.28nevcairiellook at the quartz swingtimer
18:49.34nevcairieli modified it for 2.4 a while back
18:49.39nevcairielwas pretty eas imho
18:49.52charonperhaps soulshatter misses should just double your threat on that target
18:49.58charonthat way it wouldn't depend on the ordering
18:50.02balstorthe C_L_E_U are comming straight down from the server, in fact i think it's the same events the UI processes, so the UI (old events) are always behind.
18:50.41vhaarrcharon: doesn't the code you just added roll back the transaction on all current mobs?
18:50.42balstornevcairiel mine is LD50_abar over at curse (would be on wowace but SVN admins never respond)
18:51.07charonlooks
18:51.25charonyou're right. *sigh*
18:51.38charonthen again, if balstor is right it wouldn't work anyway.
18:51.44CIA-3903thexod * r69154 10ItemValue_DrDamage/CasterSet.lua:
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18:51.44CIA-39- Fix for DrDamage changes, thanks to Nayala
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18:53.14NandiniC_L_E_U events do not always arrive in order for me; the "latest" i've ever seen an out-of-sequence event arrive is 40 ms though (my latency is typically around 60ms)
18:53.21balstorI converted away from the old event structure all together to rid myself of most issues. Then i had to write a time converter for the new timestamps (the timestamps in the new C_L_U_E are unix timestamps from the server and thus need a latency offset to map to client)
18:54.00sag_ich_nicht1 second gracetime
18:54.01sag_ich_nichtimho
18:54.10charonbalstor: i just starfired $random_mob and CLEU fired _after_ USS
18:54.15sag_ich_nichthell 500 ms would probably do
18:54.28charonby almost 0.2s even
18:54.37balstorcharon what is your latnecy?
18:55.02charonum... it shows 24ms now
18:55.53balstorhmmm got a bad feeling that what i saw was consistant because of latnecy and cpu speed. I will have to experiment more tonight gg.
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18:57.12stew_aout of interest how long does it take for svn commits to make their way to files.wowace.com?
18:57.23balstorcause i was getting a CLEU fired for spell start and i queried the UI about what i was casting and always got a NIL, now i'm back on a faster computer i will have to try different latencys and see what happens
18:57.23Dashkalevery 20 mins (00, 20, 40)
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18:57.56stew_aah, k
18:58.21balstoranyone got the private email for an SVN admin so i can get my account turned on?
18:58.29KalrothKinky
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18:59.06KalrothAntiarc: Hows does chat copy work in Chatterbox?
18:59.13charonbalstor: did some more testing, according to dteventtrace USS is always first, though sometimes only very slightly
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18:59.26ckknightbalstor: Kaelten's freakishly busy with something, I suggest reminding him this weekend
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18:59.41balstorthanks ckknight
19:00.30balstorcharon hmmm, i still have to relay on two old events hmmm long weekend incoming
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19:00.55DashkalI don't suppose that "something" is the svn overhaul (yeah yeah, wishful thinking, though it would be cool to time it with WotLK)
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19:02.14CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69155 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
19:02.14CIA-39Threat-2.0: ... of course we shouldn't clear the shatter on _all_ targets.
19:02.14CIA-39This still relies on CLEU firing after UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED. It
19:02.14CIA-39might be better to just double threat on a shatter resist.
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19:02.22charonvhaarr: thanks for pointing that out
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19:02.31DashkalI wonder if 3.0 is going to murder the addon world again
19:02.44ckknightbalstor: bug Funkeh` or pastamancer
19:02.50KaeltenDashkal: yes, it will
19:03.03balstorkay thanks
19:03.24kergothheh
19:03.30kergothjust hit 170% of my pet's threat and didnt draw aggro
19:03.34kergothkicks threat-2.0
19:03.52DashkalKaelten: Which comment was that in response to?
19:04.04KaeltenDashkal: 3.0
19:04.05balstoras a tank just multiply all lock threat by 2 kay thanks
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19:04.08CIA-39- added Goblin Engineering Helmet
19:04.34charonkergoth: if that's reproducible, you could try the new threat logging feature so we'd actually have something to work with
19:04.36DashkalI'm not so sure 3.0 will destroy things again... 2.0 did it due to secure templates and that joy.  Is there something coming up with 3.0 along the same lines?
19:05.01kergothi'll try
19:05.05KaeltenDashkal: there is a pretty good chacne all interfaces less than 30000 will stop working all togather
19:05.27sag_ich_nicht[21:03] <@kergoth> just hit 170% of my pet's threat and didnt draw aggro <--combatlog gief
19:05.33DashkalWell, if they are going to totally break things... lets hope they clean up the API a bit and make it worth it.
19:05.35sag_ich_nichtor threatlog
19:05.43DashkalSomethings are just bizarre...
19:05.53Dashkals/Somethings/Some things/
19:06.15PolarinaDashkal: The Blizzard UI will stop using 'this' and 'arg1', 'arg2', etc. and use the local variants instead.
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19:06.32DashkalI thought arg1, arg2, etc were deprecated in 2.0
19:06.46PolarinaDashkal: Blizzard still uses them.
19:06.51charonkergoth: "Add threat logging. Enable with LibStub("Threat-2.0").LogThreat = true. Note that this will be RAM intensive."
19:07.09DashkalI know blizz still supports it, but I thought the new style worked.  Must have misread that discussion
19:07.38PolarinaDashkal: It works. Blizzard has yet to use the new style. :)
19:07.39DashkalThe last time I heard anything of it was from the april fools thread.
19:08.56DashkalSo far I've yet to run into that quirk, but it's only a matter of time.
19:09.08DashkalThe frameworks have so far shielded me from that.
19:09.18nevcairielnot sure the hunter pet module accounts for the high-aggro spell (growl?) correctly
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19:11.27Triumvirateis there a listing of the new dogtag commands anywhere?  i've been looking, but i can't find :(
19:11.34phyber/dog
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19:14.53hasteit's what you get for using that smiley
19:14.56hasteit's cursed I tell you!
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19:16.18CIA-3903stormfx * r69157 10ButtonFacade_Template/:
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19:16.18CIA-39- Initial commit.
19:17.16sag_ich_nichtbtw.
19:17.19sag_ich_nichtif you're in a battleground
19:17.28sag_ich_nichtand see people with shitty equip
19:17.31sag_ich_nichtFLAME THEM TO GET S0
19:17.34sag_ich_nichtthank you.
19:17.46nevcairielS0 is shitty equip
19:17.49AeyanS0?
19:17.52AeyanThe faction pvp stuff?
19:18.03nevcairielyea
19:18.06AeyanBleh
19:19.05CartasWhy do that, sag_ich_nicht?
19:19.33CIA-3903stormfx * r69158 10ButtonFacade_Template/ (ButtonFacade_SkinName.toc ReadMe.txt Skin.lua Textures/):
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19:20.43Zeksie\o/ 6[Amani War Bear]
19:21.12SnagoGrats Zeksie
19:21.15Zeksie:)
19:21.22phyberWTB patch for putty that gives mouseover tooltips for item links
19:22.15Zeksie~seen sylvanaar
19:22.17purlsylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 43m 53s ago, saying: 'well, guys thanks again for your input, have a nice evening'.
19:22.22kenlyricit's a bear
19:22.27kenlyricspoiler
19:22.39phyber:(
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19:23.15charonhmm, toskk's calculator believes i should use shard of contempt over all other trinkets. have i missed something important about expertise? i thought half of the effect was lost because not even mobs can parry from behind
19:23.18sag_ich_nicht[21:17] <nevcairiel> S0 is shitty equip <--from a guild mage who runs around in T5... it's a definitiv improvment for him in terms of pvp enjoyment :P
19:23.32sag_ich_nichtcharon: it's still superior
19:23.33sag_ich_nichtuse it.
19:24.00sag_ich_nichtit's a flat 2.75% damage increase just from the expertise
19:24.12Kalrothcharon: it is the best dps trinket in the game
19:24.13Zeksiecharon: 5% dodge on white dmg alone
19:24.25sag_ich_nicht[21:24] <Kalroth> charon: it is the best dps trinket in the game <--no it isn't
19:24.29KalrothYes it is
19:24.31Zeksieyes it is
19:25.32KalrothBerserker's Call is close if you've already got 5 expertise, but even then it's still a little better.
19:26.15KalrothBut since you got two trinket slots, you really should put shard of contempt in one of them. :)
19:26.21KalrothI even banked my dragonspine for it :(
19:26.23sag_ich_nichtno it isn't. shaddup. every class has different trinket needs and it all depends on your equip niveau, e.g. for a human retribution paladin, DC:C gives more DPS than the shard and in highend sunwell gear, the combination of DST + DC:C is superior by ~1 DPS to DC:C + SoC altho you are not at the expertise cap with that combination, but before that equip niveau SoC + DC:C is better
19:26.42kenlyricwhen in doubt, sag_ich_nicht  is wrong
19:26.59kenlyrica simple #wowace maxim
19:27.15charonso are you saying that in the absence of parry, the full value of expertise counts to reduce dodge?
19:27.15Zeksiehe said paladin dps. he made a funny
19:27.20Kalrothhaha
19:27.24charon(if not, then toskk's calc isn't correct)
19:27.28sag_ich_nichtkenlyric http://loliserv.org/~afora/Paladin_Dps_v34_2.4_ultimate.xls
19:27.35sag_ich_nichtget lost
19:27.35KalrothYou're right for ret paladins, DC:C is equal or slightly better than SoC
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19:27.37Zeksieyes charon, basically
19:27.38kenlyrickeylogger
19:27.43sag_ich_nicht[21:27] <charon> so are you saying that in the absence of parry, the full value of expertise counts to reduce dodge? <--uhm no
19:27.45sag_ich_nichtlook
19:27.46KalrothBut I thought we were talking about dps classes
19:27.54charonZeksie: ah. thanks
19:27.59kenlyricthese people need to learn to gdocs
19:28.16sag_ich_nichtkenlyric: you need to learn that gdocs doesn't support complex macros
19:28.22charonand here i was thinking it was best as a trash tanking trinket -.-
19:28.28Zeksieplus for caster mobs, you don't get those odd parries when they turn to cast
19:28.28kenlyricwrite simpler macros
19:28.29sag_ich_nichtKalroth: nihilum used a ret paladin on their brutallus kill, you have been un-funny'd
19:28.40Zeksieor less of them at least
19:28.42kenlyricstop FAILING so much
19:28.44Kalrothsag_ich_nicht: So? We did too. It doesn't make them worth the spot. :)
19:28.56sag_ich_nichtKalroth: your mom is worth a spot in my bed tho
19:29.14KalrothI know she is, she's got a proper spec!
19:29.14Zeksiethey can USE anything they like, doesn't automatically mean he was the number 1 dpser :)
19:29.19sag_ich_nichtcharon: the expertise on SoC reduces your chance to be parried by 2.75% and your chance to be dodged by 2.75%
19:29.30sag_ich_nichtin absence of parry, it only reduces your chance to be dodged by 2.75%
19:29.40Zeksiethat's what he said sag_ich_nicht.. and you said no
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19:29.58Arrowmasterand mobs can parry from behind, well more like the side where it still counts as behind for attacks like backstab
19:30.10Zeksieyeah Arrowmaster, pisses me off
19:30.20sag_ich_nichtno, he said it would reduce it by 5.5% Zeksie, learn english
19:30.44Arrowmasterand if a mob turns to do a secondary target ability on somebody it can cause parries
19:30.44sag_ich_nichtZeksie: IT'S A SUPPORT CLASS, everyone who is behind a retribution paladin in dps is not doing their job properly and should be raidkicked
19:30.57NeoTronKalroth: they are actually quite clearly worth their spot
19:31.23KalrothNot clearly, but they aren't that poor anymore.
19:31.28sag_ich_nichtand retribution paladins should get to accept that they will always be last in terms of damage done by DPS in a proper raid, but they make that up by their support roll
19:31.34KalrothWe had a ret paladin in on Brut because of the third blessing, no other reason.
19:31.46NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/tlffko4em51vs?s=13205-13532&ab=299
19:31.48KalrothIf we had been using 3 holy paladins, he'd been outside.
19:32.05NeoTronnot to mention 3% raid-wide crit
19:32.53sag_ich_nichtKalroth: your argument is illogical, obviously you needed a dpser and not a healer AND the blessing
19:32.53sag_ich_nichtmaking him viable.
19:32.53sag_ich_nichtstop being a pretendious shitpiece
19:33.11Kalrothuhm, no, I'm saying we had 2 holy paladins inside, but we also had 2 holy priests. If we replaced 1 holy priest with 1 holy paladin, then the ret paladin would be sitting outside, as any pure dps class would do a better job than him.
19:33.23Zeksie<charon> so are you saying that in the absence of parry, the full value of expertise counts to reduce dodge? <--uhm no
19:33.25sag_ich_nichtKalroth: then you should have done that
19:33.26Zeksiemy english is fine..
19:33.38sag_ich_nichtno it isn't
19:33.45NeoTronKalroth: are you even considering anything but pure DPS and a blessing here?
19:34.05KalrothNeoTron: Of course not. There's the 2% group buff, the 3% raid crit and the judgements.
19:34.08sag_ich_nichtNeoTron: no he isn't, and he's still talking shit because he didn't take a holy paladin
19:34.10charonZeksie: huh?
19:34.16NeoTronKalroth: which are worth nothing to  you ?
19:34.21Zeksiei was quoting sag_ich_nicht
19:34.21NeoTronmy god how short sighted and stupid
19:34.25KalrothNeoTron: But even accounting for that, the dps is still lower than a rogue, hunter, mage or warlock.
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19:34.59KalrothAnd yes, we did the maths, unlike most of you retardin zealots.
19:35.26NeoTron2800 mana is 6.6 shadow bolts for free
19:35.29Kalroth3% raid crit isn't more than 1.2-1.4% raid dps, depending on the raid layout.
19:35.31NeoTronone mana potion or 1.5 life tap
19:35.40KalrothOur warlocks don't run out of mana on Brut.
19:35.46KalrothOur mages got an spriest.
19:35.47charonZeksie: seems there are some drawbacks with /ignore after all *rolleyes*
19:35.52sag_ich_nichtKalroth: did you actually use the damn spreadsheet?
19:35.57Zeksieheh
19:35.58NeoTronKalroth: now I know you're an idiot
19:36.06NeoTrona warlock runs out of mana in less than one minute
19:36.07KalrothNeoTron: So you've killed Brut?
19:36.08NeoTronperiod
19:36.19KalrothI thought so.
19:36.23NeoTronusing life tap != not running out of mana
19:36.28NeoTronwe've got brut to 20%
19:36.40AntiarcSo I guess I need to rename Chatterbox
19:36.42NeoTronbut a shadow priest alone can increase the dps of a warlock by over 200
19:36.43KalrothGrats, the real fight begins at 5%
19:36.45AntiarcGive me suggestions
19:36.53KalrothAntiarc: Explain how chat copy works!
19:36.54AntiarcI'm thinking of shortening it to just "Chatter" right now.
19:37.01kenlyricwhat is it?
19:37.01sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: add incoming blacklist
19:37.03NeoTronanyone that says "warlocks don't run out of mana" is lacking seriously in brain power
19:37.08AntiarcKalroth: Hover over a frame, click the blue button in the lower right
19:37.10kenlyricdon't like box?
19:37.21ZeksieTouchMyBox
19:37.26KalrothNeoTron: And anyone saying a ret paladin is more dps than a pure dps class lacks what?
19:37.30AntiarcAce3 Prat replacement that doesn't chew CPU like a fat man with a box of donuts
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19:37.38KalrothAntiarc: Hrm, it doesn't work for me, I tried that. :(
19:37.43KalrothAntiarc: And yes, it's enabled. :)
19:37.51AntiarcKalroth: No icon appears?
19:38.00KalrothAntiarc: Nope, not in any corner
19:38.00Viper_0000wtb being able to type the x,y cords to align pitbull frames
19:38.12PolarinaI can copy/paste to and from WoW without addons...
19:38.14stew_ammm.. donuts
19:38.21EvilJohn-hm, does prat burn that much cpu? but then again, i'm a fat man that loves donuts....
19:38.33Antiarchttp://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041108050123qk4.jpg
19:38.33vithosAntiarc: i guess you didn't see it earlier, but with chatterbox enabled, ace3 cpu usage goes up 10x while spamming a shot rotation macro (just like prat -> ace2)
19:38.34NeoTronKalroth: so if your locks don't go OOM they had 2x SP then?
19:38.41KalrothAntiarc: how large is the icon?
19:38.43KalrothAntiarc: Ah, thanks :)
19:38.46AntiarcLast night idling in Stormwind
19:39.01AntiarcKalroth: 10x10, increases to 26x26 when you mouse over
19:39.04KalrothAw, though it was a screenshot of the icon. :)
19:39.06KalrothHrmm
19:39.19Antiarcvithos: Yeah, I'm hooking the chat parser for /tt - you can disable telltarget to unhook that, but I'll look at it as well
19:39.30KalrothAntiarc: Might there be some other addon messing with it
19:39.38KalrothNeoTron: They had 1 SP
19:39.43vithosah k
19:40.00vithosyeah apparently /castrandom was triggering that event or something along those lines
19:40.00Fix[EJ]Antiarc: Something you may want to add is a hh:mm:ss(12 hour) without AM/PM and a way to change the timestamp brackets from [] to a custom symbol or something
19:40.14NeoTronan SP saves about 1/2 of life taps
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19:40.38EvilJohn-how mana pots does include
19:40.41EvilJohn-how many
19:40.42NeoTronwhich means OOM in about 2 minutes
19:41.03kenlyric~chatterbox
19:41.39NeoTronKalroth: so with a SP I assume the locks do abotu 2200-2400 dps?
19:41.45KalrothNeoTron: Look, you can argue all you want. We used a ret paladin on our Brut kill. We used him for the previous 3-4 1% wipes too. He's worth it for the third blessing, but apart from that we didn't find the other buffs worthwhile over a pure dps class. This may be different on other fights, where the healing judgement matters too.
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19:42.59KalrothBut saying a ret paladin is worthwhile on Brutallus, when you haven't even killed him, seems rather silly to me.
19:43.26kalahassiwhat exactly does omens healermode show?
19:43.32NeoTronsaying they are not when you used one seems even sillier
19:43.50NeoTronreplacing a priest with a pally for a third blessing is obviously not necessarily viable either
19:43.55Brunersthe mana regen from a retri paladin is nice
19:43.55NeoTronthey are very different healign classes
19:43.57KalrothWe used one because of the third blessing.
19:44.01vithoswe don't have a ret paladin, but i think it should be worth it (i've killed brutallus)
19:44.20NeoTronKalroth: if they aren't worth it why don't you make your ret pally go holy?
19:44.29NeoTronor recruit a holy pally to replace his worthelss ass?
19:44.36KalrothBecause both our holy priests are better healers than him.
19:44.45NeoTronso recruit one?
19:44.49vithoshow many shadowpriests are you using?
19:45.00sag_ich_nichtso why you have a retpaladin in your raid in the first place Kalroth
19:45.02kenlyricMIN MAX MORE PLEASE!
19:45.04NeoTrona blessing doesn't make it worth having a useless player
19:45.25kenlyricstop killing brut with your fail guild, obviously
19:45.28sag_ich_nichtKalroth: either minmax or don't, otherwise you're a hypocrite
19:45.42Civrock3% Crit for the raid? 2% damage for his group? Mana for Hunters?
19:45.47Brunersa proper geared paladin can put out some dps
19:45.51sag_ich_nichtCivrock: not just for hunters
19:45.52CivrockBesides blessing?
19:45.58sag_ich_nichtBruners: no shit
19:45.59KalrothNeoTron: I'm not saying he's useless, I'm saying that with 3 holy paladins the dps + buffs from a ret paladin isn't equal or more than a pure dps class.
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19:46.48KalrothBut you get back to me on that, once you've killed him. Then you're free to argue all you want.
19:47.08GeloI hate scaling! :P
19:48.09NeoTronfunny how the top5 dps kills on brutallus all use a ret pally
19:48.13NeoTronI did't look at more than the top5
19:48.27NeoTronsome of the pallies putting out over 1700 dps
19:48.33KalrothDid they use a ret paladin with 3 holy paladins in the raid?
19:48.36vithosAntiarc: yep, alls well with /tt disabled.  thanks
19:48.44Antiarcvithos: I'm going to see if I can fix that
19:48.52NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/235hgpmcsigre?s=0-64 yes?
19:49.10kenlyricso i've long forgotten what prat does
19:49.22NeoTronin fact they had 4 paladins - 3 holy and 1 ret
19:49.29NeoTronand that's the number 1 dps kill btw
19:49.33kenlyricmakes hyperlinks copyable, colors chat, shortens channel names...
19:49.40NeoTronactually that one is not a kill
19:49.46KalrothNeoTron: How much dps is that ret paladin contributing with though?
19:49.52NeoTron1300ish in that one
19:49.55Kalrothhaha
19:49.55Zeksiekenlyric: i love it for the alt-names. i can never remember who's who
19:49.58Kalrothcheck the timer :p
19:50.04Kalroth2 million damage, 1 minute kill.
19:50.08KalrothHave you even been there? ;p
19:50.09NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/gnqdmi2bmzilm?s=4417-4759
19:50.11NeoTronther's one
19:50.14kenlyricZeksie: yeah, I used to use that in my raiding guild
19:50.18kenlyricdon't care in my casual guild
19:50.27KalrothSure, that's SK ;)
19:50.38NeoTronso?
19:50.52NeoTronI have yet to see a kill WITHOUT a ret pally in fact
19:50.59Kalrothuhh
19:51.19CIA-3903kagaro * r69161 10GatherMate/Collector.lua:
19:51.19CIA-39GatherMate: converted collector to use spellIDs, and 2.4 now give the node for
19:51.19CIA-39the target of spell casts for Mining, Herb Gathering, and Possibly Pick Lock and
19:51.19CIA-39Opening. Added a short cut in detection if target is a valid node for the cast
19:51.20CIA-39spell.
19:51.23NeoTronnot "uhh"
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19:51.32NeoTronI'm looking at wws and they all use ret pallies
19:51.37KalrothWell you keep forgetting what I said. THIRD. BLESSING.
19:51.49KalrothYou've fond one where they got 3 holy paladins. What about the rest?
19:52.26NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/j4hnqfnutpb5i?s=4440-4787 another one with 3 holy 1 ret
19:52.38EvilJohn-the ret pally beat the SPs :(
19:52.43kenlyricis the point here that you want 3 pally blessings but don't want 3 pally healers?
19:52.44NeoTronzomg another one http://wowwebstats.com/nwn3ebaywwiga?s=17786-18134
19:52.48Kalrothkenlyric: Yes
19:53.06kenlyricmakes sense to me
19:53.14NeoTronand you can't tell me a 4th blessing is worth squat
19:53.21Kalrothkenlyric: That was true in our case anyways, I can't speak for other guilds.
19:53.25kenlyricsince pallies suck so bad
19:53.31NeoTronso why would they bother with a useless ret pally?
19:53.33KalrothNeoTron: Sure, for every WWS you link with 3+1, I can link 10 with 2+1
19:53.34kenlyrici mean, in general terms compared to other healers
19:53.40kenlyricthe ones you know are quite good, I'm sure :)
19:53.41NeoTronthat is not the point
19:53.46KalrothIt certainly is.
19:53.48NeoTronlink me one with 3 holy pallies and no ret pally
19:53.48EvilJohn-I don't think anyone is asying "useless"
19:54.43KalrothNope, I'm just saying that once you take the third blessing out of the formula, a ret paladin doesn't bring more dps than a pure dps class. On Brutallus.
19:55.05NeoTronyet everyone uses a ret pally over a holy pally
19:55.11KalrothNow the retardin zealots doesn't like to hear that, what if their precious offspec would look bad. OH NOES.
19:55.14NeoTronand can you show me the math that proves this?
19:55.47NeoTronI especiall like to see how you calculate the benefit of 3% extra crit for locks on the ISB uptime effect on riad dps
19:56.33nevcairielwe usually have 3 locks and ISB has a very high uptime with that
19:56.46Arrowmasterheh my dad cut his leg open at work today and drove himself to the hospital for stiches, doesnt sound like they were happy with him, they had to call up the state uni hospital to get his bigass list of medications hes taking
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19:57.14NeoTronJoW with my raid with 5 locks, with locks alone, contributes about 35k damage. That is solely for giving locks mana via JoW
19:57.41NeoTronnevcairiel: it really isn't
19:57.50NeoTronnevcairiel: nowhere near 100% I can tell you that
19:58.00nevcairieli wonder if WWS tracks dot uptime
19:58.47KalrothAntiarc: Found a bug!!
19:58.52KalrothAntiarc: The horror :((
19:58.52Chompersi'm using zomgbuffs, i just used blessing of sacrifice, now it won't go away
19:59.05AntiarcKalroth: ?
19:59.06kenlyricturn learning off
19:59.06Chomperscan i remove it from always trying to buff sacrifice?
19:59.31HuuphQuick question: I'm grabbing the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT filtered for COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE and masks the rest of the way. When I do that my own start casts doesn't show up, if I just grab the unfiltered event my own start casts show up. Is that like it's intended or did I make an error somewhere?
19:59.34KalrothAntiarc: Can I spam bugsack in private to you? It's from ChatterBox
19:59.37kenlyricChompers: turn learning off
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19:59.54kenlyricfor that spell
20:00.03Chompersthanks kenlyric :)
20:00.04kenlyricI dunno why learning is on by default for certain spells
20:00.04aestilwhat is chatterbox?
20:00.12AntiarcUh, pastey it if you would
20:00.16kenlyriclike, why would i ever want you to learn aspect of the pack?
20:00.26Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.0 - chatterbox
20:00.41aestilwow.
20:00.48KalrothAntiarc: http://chatterbox.pastey.net/85559
20:01.06KalrothAntiarc: I copied a profile from my main character to an alt
20:01.16aestilwill using this mod make it so that stuff i don't want in chatframe1 stop showing in chat frame 1?
20:01.31KalrothAnd I'm still not seeing a copy icon :(
20:01.45KalrothI'm pretty sure it's some other addon fucking with it then ><
20:02.36NeoTronAntiarc: chatterbox via prat - why? :)
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20:03.03AntiarcNeoTron: http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041108050123qk4.jpg
20:03.05CIA-3903antiarc * r69162 10Chatterbox/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
20:03.05CIA-39Chatterbox:
20:03.05CIA-39- Turn Telltarget off by default, as it can cause extreme overhead with combat macros due to the required securehook
20:03.05CIA-39- Fix an AltNames bug
20:03.05CIA-39- Add an H:M:S (12 hour) format to timestamps
20:03.18AntiarcThat's fully embedded
20:03.24aestilwhaaa?
20:03.34AntiarcWith Prat embedding Ace2 and Chatterbox embedding Ace3
20:03.36aestil<PROTECTED>
20:03.36KalrothAntiarc: I also got this one; http://deadened.pastey.net/85560
20:03.42AntiarcYes
20:03.51aestilin general, since recently?
20:03.51AntiarcIt securehooks a function that gets called on every macro press
20:03.55AntiarcAnd securehooks are slooooow.
20:03.57NeoTronAntiarc: thank, that's enough reason.
20:03.59AntiarcSince 2.0
20:04.05aestilreally?
20:04.20AntiarcYes
20:04.28AntiarcIf you use any spammable combat macros it does
20:04.28nevcairielfor some reason chatmods can collect a excess amount of memory though, i bet string garbage in high-comm situations
20:04.29Fisker-Antiarc !
20:04.31aestili am using phanx chat now.
20:04.36nevcairieli've even seen it with my 5kb addon :P
20:04.40Fisker-can i has sound events? :(
20:04.42Antiarcnevcairiel: Chatterbox is a chatmod :P
20:04.47nevcairieli know
20:04.48NeoTrondoes chatterbox have a persistant command line history?
20:04.49AntiarcFisker-: ?
20:04.50nevcairieljust warning you!
20:04.54NeoTronlike if I reload ui/log out
20:04.56AntiarcNeoTron: That's in the blizzard UI
20:04.58AntiarcOh, no
20:05.02AntiarcInteresting idea though
20:05.05NeoTronprat has it
20:05.06Fisker-like prat where you can setup a sound when a message comes in a specific channel
20:05.17NeoTronit's very useful when doing /script Somggr:very:long(333.)....
20:05.22AntiarcFisker-: It has highlights, which will play a sound when your name or a specific word is said
20:05.30AntiarcNeoTron: Definitely
20:05.33Fisker-yeah
20:05.41NeoTronlike when I test /script BigWigs.modules["Kalecgos Marker"]:SomeLongMethodNmaE("arg1", "ag2")
20:05.57nevcairieli copy paste stuff like that :D
20:06.02kenlyricwait, it can set the background in the options.
20:06.04AntiarcI copy paste it too :P
20:06.06kenlyricdroooool
20:06.16kenlyriccan it save window position and formatting?
20:06.27nevcairieli hate it when i scroll back to a old command, then edit it, and it edits the history
20:06.30kenlyrici've wondered if they changed that since 2.4
20:06.32nevcairielinstead of just adding a new one
20:06.45Antiarckenlyric: What window positioning/formatting?
20:06.47kergothAntiarc: see the chatterbox stuffs i brought up in the ace3 chan earlier?
20:06.52NeoTronnevcairiel: yes that's annoying as hell
20:06.54kenlyricAntiarc: where that window is, how big it is
20:06.55Zeksienevcairiel: amen.. that ticks me off!
20:06.58kenlyricthe primary chat window I mean
20:07.03Antiarckergoth: Yeah, those issues should have been fixed. Have you updated?
20:07.08Fisker-but i want like being able to play a sound when i just get any message in a specific channel :(
20:07.19AntiarcFisker-: I'll see about adding that in.
20:07.46kergothnot yet, will do
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20:08.33NeoTronshould have interactive recursive search for command history
20:08.35CIA-3903benumbed * r69163 10DaHud/modules/Bars/Core.lua:
20:08.35CIA-39DaHud:
20:08.35CIA-39<PROTECTED>
20:08.41kenlyricso, should I assume that no svn invites have gone out in the past few weeks, or just that I don't get one?
20:08.42NeoTroni.e Ctrl-R in zsh
20:09.30charonthat R does not mean "recursive" :)
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20:10.03Antiarckenlyric: That's saved by the layout-cache
20:10.56Fisker-awesome Antiarc
20:10.59kenlyricright
20:11.03Fisker-btw
20:11.15kenlyricthat's I wondered if it was possible for a mod to modify it
20:11.23Fisker-You also getting messages that contain nothing but a timestamp?
20:11.25Fisker-i do sometimes
20:11.26kenlyricI know you couldn't before
20:11.45NeoTroncharon: bck-i-search is what zsh calls it
20:11.49NeoTronbackwards interactive search
20:12.22charonNeoTron: it's for Reverse, most shells (and emacs) also have ctrl-S for forward search
20:12.36charon(and you can switch between backward and forward if you hit one while doing the other)
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20:13.41CIA-3903antiarc * r69164 10Chatterbox/Modules/Highlight.lua: Chatterbox: Add sounds when a message is said in a specific channel to the Highlight module.
20:14.12Zyndromeadds sum custom timestamps into chatterbox
20:14.16Viper_0000is there a way to have more than 50 ppl on friends list?
20:14.27NeoTronctrl-s in a shell is usually scroll lock
20:14.40Fisker-that was quick
20:15.08Fisker-lieks
20:15.12Arrowmasterctrl-s kills my shell
20:15.47charonWorks For Me(tm)
20:15.51kenlyricctrl-s deleted my hard drive
20:15.54charonwith konsole and bash
20:16.20Arrowmasterlocked up putty/bash
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20:16.42Superfly_ctrl-q always your best friend :P
20:16.58CIA-3903antiarc * r69165 10Chatterbox/Modules/Highlight.lua: Chatterbox: Add sound previews to custom channel sounds.
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20:17.10Arrowmasterwell that fixed it
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20:17.16Arrowmasterno clue what happened though
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20:18.29Superfly_ctrl+s is useful if you would like to suspend your screen, like booting up, and catch some error message, or tailing a file but you would stop for a while
20:18.36charonwell some terminals "scroll lock" on ctrl-s... effectively blocking any further writes to it. it freezes the display and stops most programs too
20:18.50Superfly_i guess there was some real reason several years ago, but i would say its just annoying
20:18.59charonbut others ignore it and use the real scroll lock key
20:19.03Superfly_it doesnt stop the program
20:19.08Superfly_its just freeze your terminal
20:19.29charonif the program uses a normal/blocking write to stdout, it will stop
20:19.50Superfly_yes, the keyword is 'if' :P
20:20.07sag_ich_nicht!c EU Gul'dan Ruknor
20:20.09charonthe key word is "most"
20:20.12charon:P
20:21.32Zyndromehttp://i31.tinypic.com/118ko54.jpg - Antiarc , custom timestamps would be a neat option, as now one has to edit Timestamps.lua for those (like I did) :P
20:21.36Superfly_yes but most sounds, it kills all the apps, rather than only those which are handle the stdout status
20:22.25AntiarcZyndrome: You just want a text input to enter a format?
20:22.50kenlyricprobably be the easiest
20:22.56ZeksieAntiarc: you could maybe make an optional restriction on /tt that isn't a real command, but rather a shortcut to just start off your command line with /tell Name: then there'd be no need for the spam hook.
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20:23.25Zyndromethat was what I was thinking, i.e. "%h%m" generate "2218", "x%h-%m-%sx" generate "x17-29-57x", etc
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20:24.16AeyanAntiarc: Feature request for Chatterbox - can you make blank an acceptable input for the channel names or is that an Ace3 limitation?
20:24.23ArrowmasterAntiarc: cant you do that a lot better than with a ChatEdit_ParseText hook?
20:24.41AntiarcArrowmaster: That's what I was doing, and it has to be a securehoiok
20:24.42Arrowmasterlike an ontextchanged?
20:24.53AntiarcAeyan: Try entering a space
20:25.05AntiarcArrowmaster: Hm, I'll see
20:25.07Xinhuan~seen Elsia
20:25.10purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A27989.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 27m 48s ago, saying: 'k'.
20:25.39Xinhuanme and nevcairiel figured out why the WWS and Recount parsing is wrong for Kalecgos
20:25.53Xinhuanthe boss flags change depending on which realm you are in
20:26.02NeoTronkalecgos?
20:26.02Tornhoofhmm?
20:26.12Tornhoofwhich flags change?
20:26.17ZeksieArrowmaster, that's basically what i was thinking
20:26.20NeoTronfriendly vs enemy? is the guid the same?
20:26.27Xinhuanif you're above, "Sathrovarr the Corruptor" has Neutral flag
20:26.32AeyanAntiarc: Work, but it screws up text alignment =P
20:26.33Xinhuan0xa28
20:26.35AeyanErr, works
20:26.40Xinhuanif you're below "Sathrovarr the Corruptor" has hostile flag 0xa48
20:26.46NeoTronXinhuan: wait you see event from sath on the topside?
20:26.50Xinhuanyes
20:26.54vithosAntiarc: is there supposed to be a blue copy button in the bottom right hand corner of all chat tabs?  i only see it on the combatlog tab
20:26.55Xinhuanyou see all of it in /combatlog
20:26.56NeoTronhmm
20:26.58NeoTroncurious
20:27.00Xinhuanthe reverse is true
20:27.01ArrowmasterAntiarc: and since the normal editbox is different from the macro editbox if an OnTextChanged handler worked it would prevent it from being used in macros
20:27.05Xinhuanfor Kalecgos
20:27.05Antiarcvithos: It should appear when you hover
20:27.08NeoTronthen why don't I see unit_died?
20:27.15NeoTronor maybe I did
20:27.17NeoTronhmm
20:27.22Xinhuanif you are below, the kalecgos above is Neutral, and if you are above, it is hostile
20:27.23ArrowmasterAntiarc: although if people really wanted to use it in macros you could add a real slash command too
20:27.24vithosAntiarc: it's not, but maybe i have a conflicting addon.  i'll investigate further
20:27.28Fisker-doesn't chatlogs get updated on reload anymore?
20:27.37PolarinaNeoTron: It's a bug, you won't see UNIT_DIED for players.
20:27.38Xinhuanunit_died is blizzard bugged to be not reporting at all NeoTron
20:28.07Xinhuanbut right now, what appears to be happening is that WWS and Recount are both set to ignore damage done on Neutral flagged mobs
20:28.20Xinhuanso its only recording damage done to your half of the realm
20:28.20NeoTronno I don't see a UNIT_DIED for sathrovarr
20:28.34NeoTronwait
20:28.34Xinhuanhe technically doesn't die, at 1% he banishes himself
20:28.43Xinhuanand when kalecgos above is at 1% he banishes too
20:28.49KalrothYup
20:28.49NeoTronright
20:28.55NeoTronbut the demon does die
20:28.56Xinhuanthen they despawn and you get a corpse
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20:29.05NeoTronhmm
20:29.15NeoTronthere is never actually a death event regardless of realm?
20:29.16Fisker-lol
20:29.21vithosi don't think player deaths are getting an event either though
20:29.21Fisker-"May you never autorun into the ocean"
20:29.23KalrothYeah, the demon doesn't die. He just disappears and spawns a corpse upstairs.
20:29.27Fisker-that's a new one
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20:29.31NeoTroncute
20:29.39Xinhuanin any case, i went thru my 80 mb logs
20:29.49Xinhuanand i am confident that both realms are recorded fully in entirety
20:29.54Xinhuanfor /combatlog
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20:30.01Adirellemorning
20:31.12NeoTronXinhuan: I cleatly see events from both sides intermixed so you seem to be correct
20:31.21KalrothXinhuan: Well you can see chain heal beams shooting up when they're trying to hit teleporting members
20:31.33Xinhuanyep
20:31.34Adirelleif UnitClass("player") working when the lua is executed ? i.e. can I safely use it to stop the execution to prevent unnecessary loading ? (like getlocale() is used in acelocale-3.0)
20:31.42NeoTronthe debuff also only makes you invisible and makes you see invisible
20:31.43Xinhuanthis is really just a parsing bug
20:31.45Adirelle-if +is
20:31.48NeoTronit doesn't actually move you
20:31.51KalrothYes it does
20:32.14KalrothWatch the Kalecgos spot in WowMapViewer, the shadow realm is ~50-60 yards below the Kalecgos spot
20:32.16SnagoAdirelle: Yes
20:32.17KalrothExactly below
20:32.30NeoTronah
20:32.40Kalroth(Might be a little more, was just a rough estimate)
20:32.44NeoTronwell not far enough to disable combat events
20:32.54Arrowmasterhow the fuck did you get wowmapviewer to work
20:32.54KalrothYup
20:33.05Arrowmasterit crashed for me everytime in sunwell
20:33.05KalrothArrowmaster: I just got the latest one from the site?
20:33.10NeoTronI was killing bloodboil last night and kept getting the combat events from the mage at council putting on his dampen magic
20:33.24KalrothIt crashes if you move outside Splat, but I was moving around inside just fine
20:33.39KalrothTwins spot, Mu'ru and Kil'Jaeden
20:33.49PolarinaWowMapViewer works in Wine?
20:34.11ArrowmasterKalroth: latest? lastest is over a year old
20:34.29KalrothArrowmaster: Nope, the one I used is uhhm, few months old at worst
20:34.53Kalrothhttp://www.wowmodelviewer.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=2
20:34.54KalrothSubmitted On:
20:34.54Kalroth<PROTECTED>
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20:35.07Arrowmasterover a year old
20:35.20Arrowmastercrashes for me when moving in sunwell
20:35.22Kalrothoh right, it's still been updated with Sunwell coords
20:35.31KalrothThat version worked fine for me
20:35.34CIA-3903antiarc * r69166 10Chatterbox/ (Chatterbox.lua Modules/Telltarget.lua Modules/Timestamps.lua):
20:35.34CIA-39Chatterbox:
20:35.34CIA-39- Change targettell to a non-securehook method. No more performance problems.
20:35.34CIA-39- Reinstant /tt as a default module
20:35.35CIA-39- Add a custom timestamp formatting field. Lets you specify your choice of brackets too!
20:36.07KalrothAntiarc: No clue why the copy chat icon isn't showing for me?
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20:36.41AntiarcKalroth: None.
20:36.51kergothKalroth: the icon doesnt show until you mouse over the chat window now
20:36.52Kalroth><
20:36.54KalrothI know
20:36.58KalrothIt's enabled too
20:36.59kergothkk, just making sure :P
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20:37.10KalrothEverything else seems to work fine
20:37.47KalrothI'll try to do a reinstall
20:39.19KalrothMan, cleaning saved variables after removing Prat/Cart = Files Deleted: 75  Total Size: 1226,9 kB
20:39.49NeoTronSo
20:39.57XinhuanAntiarc, kalecgos hostile/neutral flags won't affect anything in Threat-2.0 right? or?
20:40.13AntiarcShouldn't
20:40.18NeoTron3 drum rotation + 2xFerocious Inspiration vs elemental shaman (not counting heroism in the equation) + boomkin + 1 drum rotation
20:40.20Xinhuanif you have a dot ticking on kalecgos and you are above
20:40.22NeoTronI wonder which one is best
20:40.24Xinhuanthen you get ported below
20:40.31KalrothAs long as their GUIDs are different, it should be fine, no?
20:40.33Xinhuanthe combat log will show your dot continue ticking on a neutral kalecgos
20:41.07NeoTronso does "neutral" mean non-hostile but attackable or non-hostile and not attackable in this aspect?
20:41.24Xinhuanwell the difference is 0xa28 vs 0xa48
20:41.38NeoTronis theer a table?
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20:41.50NeoTronor bitfield desc what it means
20:42.22ramozAntiarc: did you see my whispers?
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20:42.36NeoTronit seems that once a mob with a certain guid has been seen, don't ignore it?
20:42.36ramozi mean, msg
20:43.08KalrothAntiarc: quick question, Alt Linking means?
20:43.31AntiarcKalroth: Right click someone's name in chat
20:43.34AntiarcSet their main's name
20:43.44KalrothAhh okay, fancy
20:43.44AntiarcTheir main's name now shows up next to their name in chat
20:44.34SunTsuYou wouldn't by accident plan to import prat's alt link database? ;)
20:44.41Brunershow is tab completion on -nick coming a long? :)
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20:44.52Xinhuan"Anything that hates you is Hostile, anything that is friendly with you is Friendly, everything else is Neutral."
20:44.57AntiarcI hven't touched tab completion yet
20:45.01CIA-3903antiarc * r69168 10Chatterbox/Modules/Telltarget.lua: Chatterbox: Remove scary outdated message from module info.
20:45.01CIA-3903Tristan * r69167 10Enhancer/ (17 files in 2 dirs):
20:45.01CIA-39Enhancer:
20:45.02CIA-39- Windfury Hidden cooldown and Stormstrike update
20:45.03ArrowmasterAntiarc: so /tt wont work in macros now right?
20:45.12AntiarcRight
20:45.14XinhuanNeoTron: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0/Consolidated_API_changes/Guide_to_the_New_Combat_Log'
20:45.16XinhuanNeoTron: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0/Consolidated_API_changes/Guide_to_the_New_Combat_Log
20:45.25CIA-3903adirelle * r69169 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
20:45.25CIA-39SimpleSelfRebuff:
20:45.25CIA-39- normalized the buff definition files,
20:45.25CIA-39- got rid of BabbleSpell (translations for built-in tracking are still missing in some locales),
20:45.25CIA-39- fixed silly ReadMe.html.
20:45.43Xinhuanso 0xa48 and 0xa28's only difference is the Reaction flag
20:46.21MaelosIs the working parrot on wowace official?
20:47.07dylanmUh I mean ck merged in the dude's changes to shut people up...
20:47.27Xinhuanthe "a" translates to COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_NPC and COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_NPC
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20:47.46NeoTronof so reaction neutral doesn't mean it's not attackable then?
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20:48.05Xinhuancould be both i think?
20:48.10NeoTronyeah
20:48.23NeoTronbut if you're attacking it it's presumable not on your side :)
20:48.28Xinhuana hostile unit can be non-attackable, such as in shattrath?
20:48.43NeoTronseems like the check should be ~= 0x10 rather than == 0x40?
20:48.45Xinhuanlots of aldor NPCs around even if you are scryer
20:48.58NeoTronright
20:49.15Xinhuanwell i assume the logic is that == 0x40 would exclude damage done on Rats
20:49.20NeoTronwws has a sekrit renderer that handles pets correctly
20:49.28PolarinaWoWMapViewer works in Wine and I found the location of GM Island with it.
20:49.37Ellipsisold
20:49.38Xinhuanactually if you read their wws bug report forums
20:49.41Xinhuanyou will find that
20:49.46Xinhuanpets with the same name as players
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20:49.58Xinhuanare parsed such that the player is classified as a pet of the hunter
20:50.05Xinhuani.e incorrect
20:50.09Xinhuanabout 10 such reports daily
20:50.36NeoTronwell this is a different renderer
20:50.45NeoTronit's not done yet
20:51.03ArrowmasterAntiarc: why are you using #realm?
20:51.11*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-93-157.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
20:51.14Xinhuanconsidering these pet/player same name reports
20:51.15Arrowmasterif realm and unitname and #realm > 0 then
20:51.17NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/ejqwyidccv5ew?s=13205-13532 vs http://wowwebstats.com/tlffko4em51vs?s=13205-13532
20:51.22Xinhuanhave been there for days
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20:51.33AmadeoThis website/gold spam crap is getting ridiculous...are there still some addons that block those tells?
20:51.38NeoTronincreases my dmg contribution because I used an infernal
20:51.47NeoTronit's still clearly buggy
20:51.52NeoTronoh lol
20:52.06KalrothAmadeo: SpamSentry
20:52.21NeoTronI think it makes shadow priests warlocks because they have the MgT trinket
20:52.57AmadeoKalroth: Anything smaller that just blocks em? I don't need anything too fancy
20:53.14ArrowmasterAntiarc: you know about UnitIsSameServer() right?
20:53.43KalrothAmadeo: You can disable the message about being blocked, I don't know if there's any lighter addons out there though.
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20:53.55AmadeoI'll check it out then, thank ya
20:54.01PolarinaAmadeo: Relegation.
20:55.15AntiarcArrowmaster: Aha, no
20:55.34ArrowmasterFrameXML\UnitPopup.lua:968:if ( server and (not unit or not UnitIsSameServer("player", unit)) ) then
20:55.40Arrowmasterthe only place that function is used
20:55.42Brunersoh the joy of 4 new people on archimonde
20:56.29[eu]gunderAckis: ping
20:56.50KalrothBruners: WHO THE FUCK CRATERED?!
20:57.07EsineHey. I'm using a table as an object with methods in it. What would be the best way to store it with AceDB? Class={}  Class:method() something end  obj = {}  obj.method = Class.method  -- how do I store 'obj' without the methods?
20:57.15Kalrothor even better; "Oi, why are you -standing- in the fire?"
20:57.55Esineis there a way to override or give hints to the serializer that saves it to SavedVariables?
20:58.48SnagoEsine: Best way imo is to have everything that needs to be saved in a sub-table on your object
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20:59.00AmadeoPolarina: You're still doing that one? I'll check it out
20:59.08sag_ich_nicht[22:53] <Polarina> Amadeo: Relegation. <--except you never update relegation.
20:59.09Brunersfirst guy died after about 20s (first air burst)
20:59.18syerenAntiarc, Chatterbox seems nice :)
20:59.21PolarinaAmadeo: Been a while since I update the list, I might do it very soon.
20:59.36Brunersbest of all, they are all decursers
21:00.07VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, so seriously, saved variables for your baggins config... need
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21:00.50AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: Eh?
21:01.04CIA-3903kergoth * r69170 10PoisonMenu/ (. Core.lua): PoisonMenu: hide the minimap button if there's nothing to show in the list.
21:01.25VonhintenHOME`Your baggins config, from the screenshot the other day
21:01.26[SW]Dodgeyay
21:01.29[SW]Dodgebadge npc 99% !
21:01.37KalrothThe missing chat copy button annoys me :( Might have to go back to Prat ><
21:01.45VonhintenHOME`Save a man some time and effort :)
21:01.55kergothVonhintenHOME`: what screenshot? curious to see
21:02.09VonhintenHOME`lemme check history...
21:02.26HjalteKalroth: Don't you see the blue icon in the bottom right of your chat?
21:02.39HjalteWhen you mouseover the chatframe*
21:02.41KalrothNope, I've tried disabling a lot of addons
21:02.47kergothweird.
21:03.07KalrothStill got a few left, but they really shouldn't touch the chat frame
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21:03.21VonhintenHOME`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_040808_053623.jpg
21:03.25VonhintenHOME`That's the one
21:03.26HjalteKalroth: Just for the sake of it, try disabling all other addons :)
21:03.39KalrothHjalte: I need those though :)
21:03.56HjalteKalroth: Yes, you might, but that would help the author find the bug.
21:04.11KalrothYup, just did it and still no go
21:04.18KalrothOnly ChatterBox active
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21:05.00deadstaranyone home
21:05.18KalrothAnd I'm trying all 4 corners, still no go ><
21:05.39deadstarcan i get a link to the actual ace3 download?
21:06.07DashkalAntiarc: re MobSpells: Is there any easy way to go from mousing over a mob (so I see his spells in the tooltip) to having the mobspells window open for that mob?
21:06.10kergothif you want ace3 standalone, geti t the way you get every other ace addon.
21:06.19kergothDashkal: good quesiton, i was wonderinga bout that too :)
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21:06.29kadrahildid gamesurge irc just go down?
21:06.31kadrahil(off topic yes)
21:06.40deadstari tried that dont see the actual standalone just libs
21:06.45Arrowmasterno
21:06.48Arrowmastergamesurge is fine
21:06.52kadrahilhm
21:06.58AntiarcDashkal: Target it and type /spells
21:07.07Dashkaloo nice.  Thank you
21:07.13kadrahilmust be the dns server this host is using then
21:07.24Dashkalmacros /spells
21:07.25kadrahilor a route somewhere in between
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21:08.07AntiarcI'm rename Chatterbox to Chatter due to a naming conflict
21:08.13AntiarcAny last protests before I pull the trigger?
21:08.13kergothdeadstar:
21:08.15kergothhttp://files.wowace.com/Ace3/
21:08.17kergothgosh, that was hard to find.
21:09.04deadstarwe cant all be geniouses like you big guy
21:09.13CIA-3903antiarc * r69171 10/trunk/ (Chatter/ Chatterbox/): Renamed Chatterbox to Chatter due to a naming conflict with another mod.
21:09.25Kalroth@#¤%!
21:10.08kergothyou're right, i know i expect too much, common sense is pretty rare nowadays
21:10.35deadstarwell i am on vicodin... not exactly clearheaded atm.
21:10.38Dashkal[14:06]<deadstar>i tried that dont see the actual standalone just libs <-- Um... *blink* Ace3 IS a set of libs...
21:10.45GrumAntiarc: wtb tab-completion
21:10.48Grumpaying with Ellipsis
21:10.52Stanzillaagrees with grimman|zzz
21:10.54StanzillaGrum: !
21:10.58Stanzillasry :P
21:11.01grimman|zzzHSSSSSSSSS
21:11.05StanzillaSORRY
21:11.10grimman|zzzok
21:11.14Stanzillabad tab complete :P
21:11.32GrumOMG grimman|zzz is not zzzing!
21:11.34deadstarwhy would anyone charge people to use there addon?
21:11.45Grummaybe i would take grimman|zzz he would learn to use /away
21:11.48DashkalPerhaps no tab completion might be a good thing for you, Stanzilla :p
21:11.59Grumerm grimman|zzz's name without |zzz ;D
21:12.07grimman|zzzGo ahead.
21:12.16StanzillaDashkal: yes...but I think Antiarc can code a better one that reads my mind and finds out who I want to talk to!
21:12.18Grum~fail grimman|zzz
21:12.19purlgrimman|zzz: FAIL!
21:12.24grimman|zzz:O
21:12.33DashkalYou may be right there
21:12.34Grumhe was too nice :(
21:12.37Grumbad purl
21:12.38GrumBAD PURL
21:12.44Grum~fail grimman|zzz
21:12.45purlgrimman|zzz: FAIL!
21:12.47Grumagain
21:12.48GrumSIGH
21:12.54Grum~literal fail
21:12.59Grumor how does that thing work
21:13.04DashkalI like the rare fail...
21:13.05Grumpurl: literal fail
21:13.10Grumcrai
21:13.15Grumwtb infobot knowledge
21:13.19Polarinapurl: What is fail?
21:13.20purlACTION is fail to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
21:13.20Snago~fail Grum
21:13.21purlGrum, you Fail!
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21:13.34Grumpurl: literal fail?
21:13.46Grumnormally it can tell you what it is ;(
21:13.55Polarinapurl: literal save
21:13.56purl"save" is "<reply>I bet you wish I said "saved user and chan files", don't you?"
21:14.02Polarinapurl: literal fail
21:14.03purl"fail" is "Sorry, $1, you have failed."
21:14.04Dashkalthis worked: /msg purl literal fail
21:14.14CIA-3903antiarc * r69172 10Chatter/ (34 files in 4 dirs): Chatter: Rename Chatterbox -> Chatter to fix a naming conflict. Breaks saved vars due to the name change. Sorry :(
21:14.17Grumyeah that worked indeed Dashkal
21:14.27Dashkalbut it doesn't seem to be correct...
21:15.03Grumlol
21:15.18dylanmAntiarc: What's wrong with Tuller's name it's awesome.
21:15.18Grum3456 Netherweave cloth will just be 10 stacks of Imbued Netherwave Bolts O.o
21:15.25Grumtalk about space-saving
21:15.29Benumbedantiarc, is player name coloring not working yet?
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21:16.42TullerI agree that Parley is awesomer
21:17.10dylanmAnd all less likely to collide but if this one seems good it's fine of course.
21:17.41durcyni'd use it just based on the name.
21:18.33AntiarcBenumbed: What's your locale?
21:19.01Benumbedenglish
21:19.37AntiarcHm
21:19.39AntiarcIt should work
21:19.42KalrothI'm pretty sure I figured out why the copy chat button isn't showing .. :P
21:19.47Benumbednot getting anything
21:19.55Benumbedeven tried whoing ppl
21:19.55KalrothOnce I commented the following line "button:Hide()", it works!
21:20.01Benumbedbringing up guild roster etc, noda
21:20.02Brunersis the english client any different from the us one ?
21:20.14charonwtb omen tester on antonidas eu
21:20.14Benumbedshush you
21:20.15charon:-\
21:20.31KalrothAntiarc: Can I submit a hack for that?!
21:20.52AntiarcKalroth: It only shows on hover that way?
21:21.10KalrothAntiarc: No, it shows always now, it's the hover hooking that's fscked somehow
21:21.19KalrothAntiarc: I got no other addons running though
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21:22.23AntiarcHuh
21:22.29AntiarcI'll see what I can figure out
21:22.39AntiarcKalroth: Do you have chat delay turned off?
21:22.58Kalrothdelay? the fade or?
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21:23.02ArrowmasterAntiarc: did you leave some debug code in or is there a reason for ChatFrame1:AddMessage(input) inside TellTargets :SendChatMessage(input)
21:23.10AntiarcThe fade delay, yes
21:23.17AntiarcArrowmaster: Debug
21:23.25AntiarcI wasn't finished with that >_>
21:23.28charonnevcairiel: ping
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21:24.00sag_ich_nichtWTB an addon that hides non-daily Qs from my Qlog
21:24.03KalrothAntiarc: The "Disable Fading" checkbox is unchecked, yes
21:24.13sag_ich_nicht(and reverse)
21:24.41Benumbedantiarc: its saving name = class correctly
21:24.47Benumbedjust checked that
21:24.52CIA-3903antiarc * r69173 10Chatter/ (Chatter.lua Chatter.toc): Chatter: Change DB in TOC
21:24.54Benumbedjust not using it correctly
21:24.58AntiarcMay be a problem with the pattern matching then
21:25.34kadrahilrofl
21:25.37kadrahilin this wsg
21:25.44kadrahilevery single time i've fought this druid solo
21:25.49kadrahilwe both die at the exact same time
21:27.37KalrothAntiarc: I've added debug messages, it seems like it's the "if chatframes[cf] then" statement that always evaluates to false (in FadeIn/Out functions)
21:28.12PolarinaI want World of Warcraft II
21:29.01Dashkalnooo... do not wtb new hardware.  I finally got to where I run the current wow well!
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21:30.49AntiarcInteresting
21:30.51AntiarcGood to know
21:30.54AntiarcI know how to fix it then!
21:30.59KalrothAntiarc: #buttons is never being initialized, is it?
21:31.24KalrothOr am I missing something?
21:31.30Kalrothnm, I am
21:31.45Kalrothit's the tinsert() that fails somehow?
21:32.30MentalPowerKalroth: code?
21:32.42KalrothI'm hacking Antiarcs code :P
21:32.54MentalPowerask ant then :P
21:33.07AntiarcKalroth: It should on init :/
21:33.08KalrothWell "hacking", just adding debug messages to see why some of it fails
21:33.09durcynhe... was
21:33.28KalrothAntiarc: Yup, I just checked, it does. It's just odd that chatframes[cf] always returns false then
21:35.18AntiarcKalroth: Try http://pastey.net/85568
21:36.34KalrothNo dice ><
21:37.06AntiarcHm
21:37.20AntiarcThe FCF is never fading them
21:37.22Antiarcthen*
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21:37.45KalrothNope, if I remove the "button:Hide()" line, then it never fades for me
21:40.31[SW]Dodgeis there a functio to talk to an npc like right-clicking him?
21:40.34Kalroththe UIFrameFadeIn() function does get called though, it's something odd about the button
21:40.45Kalroth[SW]Dodge: I don't believe so, no
21:40.48[SW]Dodgedamn
21:40.50[SW]Dodge-.-
21:41.05Kalroth[SW]Dodge: It'd be too easy to create a bot that way :)
21:41.12Kalroth(not that it isn't easy already)
21:41.37Kalman|[SW]Dodge: There is not.
21:41.40[SW]Dodgecant rightclick the badge npc couse 1000000 people are on him :E
21:41.47Kalman|Turn on nameplates.
21:41.50GrumV -> rightclick plate
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21:42.01KalrothAny way to easily dump the contents of a table to debug output?
21:42.11KalrothI remember there's a function, but I'm a Lua newbie :P
21:42.30GrumKalroth: Ace2+Rock provide /print or /dump, if you just have Ace3 get devtools orso
21:43.01KalrothI got neither, I'm using Antiarcs addon only, although I guess I could enable other addons now that I've found the source of the problem
21:43.11[SW]Dodgei'm úsing "Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(table)" in my code :D
21:43.34Grumyup that works [SW]Dodge
21:43.52ZhinjioGood afternoon, folks.
21:44.06Diaohm
21:44.24ZhinjioAntiarc: what sort of CHatterbox (sic) goodness has been added in the last 8 hours?
21:44.27Diaois there any way to clean up old libs and stuff without manually going through my addons folder and deleting everything then reinstalling using an updater addon
21:45.27GrumDiao: tell the updater-addon to delete before installing
21:45.36Diaothat doesn't work
21:45.41Grumthen delete anything which is old
21:45.45Diaowell yeah
21:45.51Zhinjioooo. good idea.
21:45.54Diaobut i'd have to go through and manually find all the libs
21:45.58Diaowhich is what i want to avoid :P
21:46.01Grumthen dont bother for libs
21:46.07Grumunless your pc sucks
21:46.28silentiumDiao: in WAU you can select "libraries" from the filter dropdown menu, then hit F4 for "mark all installed", then uninstall them via the file menu. then switch the filter back to unfiltered, and hit F10 to make WAU check all dependencies again
21:46.47silentiumbut obviously that wont work if you have embedded libs
21:46.51Zhinjiowell, if you're running disembedded... anything with an older datestamp wouldn't be needed anymore, neh?
21:46.55KalrothAntiarc: I can't spot any nil variables, I'm guessing it's chatframes[] that somehow isn't initialized correctly though - odd that it doesn't work for me though, while it does for others
21:49.02Diaoah thanks silentium
21:49.17GagorianAnyone else experiencing omen bugging with the growth direction?
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21:49.23hypetech[2008/04/11 17:32:01-778-x2]: scorchio\Core.lua:973: attempt to concatenate a nil value
21:49.27GagorianGrows up when it's not supposed to
21:50.11XelopherisI find it has a tendency to take a few seconds to resize when a new bar appears
21:51.04hypetechAnybody know of a way to make outfitter, or even any standalone mod to do it, only equip riding crop when I get on a flying mount and never to do it when I use a ground mount?
21:51.07Diaoor wait silentium
21:51.12Diaowhich version of WAU o_O
21:51.21Gagorianvhaarr: ping
21:51.33vhaarrGagorian: pong
21:52.02silentiumDiao: I use 1.9.45.something, whatever the latest version is
21:52.03GagorianAbout closetgnome, you're the one to speak to?
21:52.06Diaooh
21:52.07Diaoi've been using wau2
21:52.10vhaarrGagorian: yes
21:52.13sbAntiarc: did you fix name coloring? :p
21:52.25Zhinjiohypetech: it is possible to distinguish, but I don't know of mods that do
21:52.43hypetechhmm
21:52.44Gagorianvhaarr: Alright. Just wanted to ask you if it would be possible to set which slot is switched first due to issues with unique-equipped gems (pvp gems and JC gems)
21:52.46*** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@udp094588uds.hawaiiantel.net)
21:52.57GagorianSince, if sets have different slots socketed with said gems
21:53.00vhaarrGagorian: I won't fix that, but I'll welcome a patch
21:53.00GagorianSwitching will fail
21:53.34hypetechvhaarr: no longer maintaining CN?
21:53.38Zhinjiodid Chatterbox change names yet?
21:53.40GagorianI might consider it then if I'm bored. Currently I just use two sets and macro them
21:53.40vhaarrhypetech: yes I am
21:53.46Grumyes Zhinjio
21:53.56hypetecho
21:53.56Zhinjiowhat'd it move to?
21:54.00GagorianFirst set only for the gem piece and then switch the rest
21:54.35Grum<CIA-39> antiarc * r69173 Chatter/ (Chatter.lua Chatter.toc): Chatter: Change DB in TOC
21:54.43Zhinjioand that answers my question.
21:54.44hypetechGagorian: you could always make a macro that equips the set, but add a line to the beginning that does that piece manually before you run the equip script
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21:56.16Gagorianhypetech: Well, that's the same as I'm doing now. It's still a workaround ;)
21:57.54sbAntiarc: wanna hear some feature-"requests" for chatter? ;)
21:59.35sag_ich_nicht.
21:59.35sag_ich_nicht04/11/08 23:59:15> [Your] [melee] hit [Simon Unit] 880.
21:59.35sag_ich_nicht04/11/08 23:59:15> [Aura of the Crusader] + [You] 6.
21:59.35sag_ich_nicht04/11/08 23:59:15> [You] kill [Simon Unit].
21:59.35sag_ich_nicht04/11/08 23:59:16> [Simon Unit] [Arcane Explosion] hit [You] 490
21:59.38sag_ich_nichtfacepalm
21:59.41hypetechooo. new mods are fun. what does chatter do?
22:00.15sbprat replacement
22:00.35CartasMumble replacement too?
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22:01.01hypetechwhat's the advantage of it over prat?
22:01.32sb300kb instead of 3mb :p no idea, i think you have to read wowace forums
22:01.48sbCartas: mumble is some voip tool!? :o
22:01.56CIA-3903keiss * r69174 10Tracksw/ (README locale/deDE.lua):
22:01.57CIA-39Tracksw:
22:01.57CIA-39- added deDE locale
22:02.08hypetechthe only things I really even use prat for are URL links in chat and being able to copy/paste what somebody said
22:02.14hypetechand I guess item links in channels
22:02.16CIA-3903antiarc * r69175 10Chatter/Modules/ (AltNames.lua ChatLink.Lua PlayerNames.lua):
22:02.16CIA-39Chatterbox:
22:02.16CIA-39- Allow nilling of alt names
22:02.16CIA-39- Fix some errant chat links
22:02.16CIA-39- Fix player names, hopefully make them locale-independent
22:02.19Antiarcsb: Sure
22:02.21Cartasmumble is Cg's Prat-superior replacement addon!
22:02.34sbAntiarc: 1. player name coloring is broken - doesnt work :p
22:02.45Antiarcsb: See commit
22:03.03sbAntiarc: 2. could you make stickys per frame?
22:03.10AntiarcNot possible IIRC
22:03.12CIA-3903saroz * r69176 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Remove LibBabbleSpell, replace with GetSpellInfo
22:03.18sbmh why? works in prat
22:03.22CIA-3903keiss * r69177 10Tracksw/Tracksw.toc:
22:03.22CIA-39Tracksw:
22:03.22CIA-39- toc update for previous change
22:03.27Diaowill chatter have all the same functions as prat while taking up less mem :O
22:03.28GagorianDoes Chatter have chat history, movable editbox, copy paste urls and hmmm
22:03.37AntiarcGagorian: Yes
22:03.41ArrowmasterAntiarc: where did you get those shitty patterns for urlcopy from?
22:03.46Antiarcsb: Maybe we are confused about what "sticky" is?
22:03.51AntiarcArrowmaster: Funkeh's mod
22:03.52DashkalAntiarc: I see what looks suspiciously like a resize handle in the lower-right of your interface options dialog...  Where did that come from?
22:03.54AntiarcFeel free to improve
22:03.59ArrowmasterAntiarc: they suck
22:04.00AntiarcDashkal: BetterBlizzOptions
22:04.06ArrowmasterAntiarc: MAJORLY
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22:04.34Dashkal_very_ hot
22:04.36DashkalThank you
22:04.44sbAntiarc: uhm - default chat-target when pressing enter? (defaults to previously used target, /o, /g. etc..)
22:05.14Antiarcsb: Oh, that's in, unless I misunderstand you
22:05.18sband anfter using /o in CF2 and /g in CF1 - returning to CF2 should make /o default again :)
22:05.22AntiarcYou mean per custom channel?
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22:05.31AntiarcOh, you want guild in there too
22:05.42sbmhh - wait
22:05.43sb*testing*
22:05.54AntiarcI'm confused because the edit box doesn't belong to multiple chat frames
22:05.57CIA-3903saroz * r69178 10sRaidFrames/embeds.xml: sRaidFrames: Remove LibBabbleSpell from embeds
22:06.00ShotskiHow do I check for the presence of a library before attempting to use it with LibStub?
22:06.08sbhmmm yes, but it works in prat somehow
22:06.32sbdepending on your active tab (tabs are only in CF1?!)
22:06.40GagorianShotski: if LibStub:GetLibrary("Threat-2.0", true) then
22:06.47Shotskiah ha, thanks
22:06.52sbi have some tab-only chat solution, and works fine with prat :)
22:07.05ShotskiI thought simply LibStub("SomeLibrary") might return nil
22:07.08Shotskibut clearly not
22:07.12hypetechI didn't realize prat did any "active tab" editbox remembering....stuff
22:07.23Sarozthere you go nevcairiel
22:07.34sbAntiarc: ["Toggle remembering the chat type last used per chat frame."] = true, <-- prat config
22:07.44AntiarcHuh
22:07.50AntiarcI'll take a look into it, I guess?
22:07.55AntiarcThat's sorta funky though
22:07.59hypetechYou only get one editbox, I don't understand how that works
22:08.10ShotskiThere we go - my first ever addon is on v0.1, and it has custom dogtags :D
22:08.12CIA-3903arrowmaster * r69179 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/TellTarget.lua:
22:08.12CIA-39Prat: TellTarget:
22:08.12CIA-39-drycoded patch to use an OnTextChanged hook instead of a ChatEdit_ParseText securehook
22:08.12CIA-39-should be much faster since it will not be called from macro processing
22:08.12CIA-39-added real slashcommands for use in macros
22:08.15Zhinjiominichat thing still being a pain, eh. Feh.
22:08.40buuOh wow
22:08.43buuHe replies at 4 am.
22:08.49*** join/#wowace Enkazin (n=niccos@adsl-155-201-129.owb.bellsouth.net)
22:09.01ArrowmasterAntiarc: its impossible for me to fix your UrlCopy the way it currently is
22:09.50sbSELECTED_CHAT_FRAME
22:09.52sbAntiarc
22:10.39AntiarcHuh, okay
22:10.41AntiarcThat works
22:10.47AntiarcArrowmaster: Elaborate? Also feel free to fix
22:10.51*** join/#wowace fatihh (n=MircAlem@88.232.80.32)
22:11.04sbAntiarc: its great for tab-only chat stuff :)
22:11.21*** part/#wowace fatihh (n=MircAlem@88.232.80.32)
22:11.59ArrowmasterAntiarc: prats UrlCopy does additional testing to see if something is a valid url instead of just a simple pattern match, due to lua's patterns being le suck
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22:13.51sbAntiarc: and yes, guild sticky needs to be in there :p
22:16.06Arrowmastertheres no addon by the name of UrlCopy post 2.0 is there?
22:16.51Arrowmasterbah there is
22:16.59Arrowmastercrappy one too
22:19.13Arrowmastersomebody give me a name to use for a standalone UrlCopy mod
22:19.33chiperDukeOfURL
22:19.43MaelosUrlArrow
22:19.52Matrix110GnomishSecretary
22:20.05Arrowmasteryou guys are worse than i am at coming up with names
22:20.18chiperhaha
22:20.20ZhinjioURLRonHubbard
22:20.26Zhinjiolaughs.
22:20.27Maeloshahaha
22:20.30ZhinjioI kill me.
22:20.58chiperURLy
22:21.00MaelosCopyURL
22:21.09AntiarcCall it CURL
22:21.10Antiarc:P
22:21.11CIA-3903apoco * r69180 10RBM_DrumWatch/Core.lua:
22:21.11CIA-39RBM_DrumWatch:
22:21.11CIA-39- Fix: Party Drumming
22:21.11CIA-39- Code Cleanup.
22:21.14ArrowmasterMaelos: i was already thinking of that one
22:21.15Maelosgenious
22:21.15StanzillaLinkYourShit
22:21.19chiperhah
22:21.21JaxonURLCopyButItisProbablyaRickRoll
22:21.26Matrix110GIMMEDATLINK!
22:21.40ArrowmasterUrlLink it is then since you all fail
22:21.42chiperLinkinator
22:21.43Nandinihow about URLCatcher
22:21.49StanzillaLinkYourShit <
22:21.52Arrowmasterafter i check that UrlLink isnt taken
22:21.59JaxonI think one of the GFW mods are named Linkinator
22:22.13sdoublebetter call it LinkYourShtuff
22:22.19NandiniCopyTehInternetsLink
22:22.20sag_ich_nicht[00:19] <Arrowmaster> somebody give me a name to use for a standalone UrlCopy mod <--UrlCopy?
22:22.31sag_ich_nichtUrlCopyStandalone?
22:22.32Arrowmastersag_ich_nicht: taken by some shitty mod
22:22.35sdoubleCopyDatSheez
22:22.44Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/5119/
22:22.50Nandinireplace the shitty mod with your own UrlCopy then
22:22.57MaelosWhat is happening here is what happens when we try to discuss naming schemas at work
22:22.58charonArrowmaster: how does aHref do on the unfunny-o-meter
22:22.59chiperlurl
22:23.09sdoubleclearly what needs to happen is UrlCopy2
22:23.17MaelosBetterUrlCopy
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22:23.30ZhinjioUrlThis
22:23.33sdoubleX-UrlCopy
22:23.34chiperSuperURLcopy
22:23.37NandinihUrl
22:23.44ZhinjioHURL! *grin*
22:23.51Zhinjiothats actually perfect.
22:23.51chiperSmurlf
22:23.56Arrowmasterim about to go with Antiarc's CURL
22:24.10NandinimURLoc
22:24.12Zhinjiodude. HURL. Its perfect. literally and figuratively.
22:24.12CIA-3903apoco * r69181 10RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua):
22:24.12CIA-39RBM_Config:
22:24.12CIA-39- New: Transfer Counting Bars Option
22:24.26Arrowmasterwtf does the H stand for
22:24.31durcynname it Snort.
22:24.32Matrix110Typosquatter
22:24.35Nandinii dunno, hyperlink?
22:24.37sdoublehandy
22:24.39Zhinjiohurl it a verb meaning to throw, like you're doing with the url.
22:24.41Kaaosamilton bURLe :V
22:24.52Nandinih = hax
22:24.57Zhinjios/it a/is itself an/
22:25.03Zhinjionm.
22:25.06chiperthank you, you guys, you managed to cheer me up from a pretty low funk
22:25.29sag_ich_nicht[00:24] <Zhinjio> dude. HURL. Its perfect. literally and figuratively. <--that's pretty good actually
22:25.29Nandinidumps a bucket of Gatorade over chiper's head.
22:25.34sag_ich_nichtaltho i'd go with lowercase hurl
22:25.34Zhinjioanyway, its beer o'clock, and I'm late for my beer calisthenics.
22:25.35Arrowmasterfill in the ?, ?DCURL
22:25.39chipereww, sticky
22:25.55sdoubleI once had some low funk.
22:25.57Zhinjiopeace, y'all.
22:25.58sdoublebut I showered.
22:26.00sbARRG
22:26.02sbAntiarc!!
22:26.03sb:)
22:26.14Funkeh`I need to change my fucking ping triggers
22:26.17sbyour profile stuff is broken
22:26.20Nandiniobviously the h in hUrl stands for "copy", it's pretty obvious to me
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22:26.21sdoublehaha, funk?
22:26.23sbit doesnt save anything
22:26.36sbChatter.lua conents "ChatterboxDB = nil"
22:27.29Nandiniyou could use URI instead of URL too, although people might not understandthat
22:28.04KalrothAntiarc: Aha! I found the sinner!
22:28.10KalrothI think
22:28.19Arrowmasteryou know what, fuck it ill just use UrlCopy
22:28.21NandinihUrl = "Throws web URLs from chat into an editbox for you to copy."
22:28.39chiperI dont suppose anybody here knows of a company in need of a AJAX/PHP programmer in the san diego area, or for telecommute?
22:28.48chiperneeds a new job
22:29.09Matrix110hmm
22:29.22Matrix110i hope Chatterbox takes over all features of Prat
22:29.28Stanzilla-box
22:29.28Matrix110as sylv quitted :-(
22:29.50Matrix110most important the AltName module!
22:29.53chipersylv abandoned Prat?
22:29.56AeyanI hope it doesn't, hehe
22:30.00Matrix110chiper he quit WoW
22:30.01AeyanPrat is monolithic
22:30.03chiperdamn, now I have to remake Prat_Signon again
22:30.40Matrix110AltNames, Highlight is about all I need other chatmods dont have
22:30.44charoni think i've just confirmed that lifebloom bloom threat goes to the healer too... is that old news? omen doesn't seem to get it right
22:31.44sdoubleway to live where everyone else lives for that field chiper
22:31.51chiperheh
22:32.00Arcaia\'
22:32.18chipergot brought here by my mother when it was the bio-tech hub.  cant leave till my fiance finishes college
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22:32.37Cryectcharon, thats old news but not sure why Omen doesn't
22:32.44chiperstill better than where I grew up tho, there's NOTHING in michigan
22:32.59Cryectthere was a really old thread on EJ that showed lifebloom only gave threat to the actual healer
22:33.03Fix[EJ]Can a DogTag display the name of your focus/ToT without having the ToT or focus modules enabled in Pitbull?
22:33.05PolarinaWrath of the Lick King is in closed Alpha...
22:33.06sdoublei'm in iowa and we have a lot of that stuff
22:33.14CryectIts been in closed alpha for a while
22:33.15sdoublegoogle's building a site here too
22:33.38PolarinaI want screenshots...
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22:33.46DashkalLB Bloom attributed to the druid who casted... that's in direct conflict to quite a few blue posts in the 2.4 thread.
22:33.47AeyanThe bloom on lifebloom gives threat to the healer? Just credits the person being healed in the log?
22:33.58AeyanHow about PoM?
22:34.22CryectI don't know on PoM just lifebloom was tested explicitly for it I know
22:34.37AeyanHuh, did not know that.
22:34.48CryectQuite a few blue posts are often wrong on game mechanics often so nothing real new there unfortunately
22:34.52Kaaosa^
22:35.15CryectI mean its kinda hard to know all the mechanics of a game and easy to think you understand based on what you work on
22:35.17chiperglad I'm not the only one with that impression
22:35.29chipersdouble: that's because iowa's cheap
22:35.41CIA-3903aznamir * r69182 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPowerOptions.lua):
22:35.41CIA-39PallyPower:
22:35.41CIA-39- Simplified PallyPower:ScanSpells function, added fallback to lower blessing if greater is not available, removed Greater Blessings option from the options menu.
22:36.02chiperwhy pay a premium for land in california when you can build a datacenter in iowa for an eight the price
22:36.15CIA-3903apoco * r69183 10RBM/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
22:36.15CIA-39RBM:
22:36.15CIA-39- Core:
22:36.15CIA-39-- Added support for Movement of Count Bars.
22:36.15CIA-39- De|BuffWatch:
22:36.16CIA-39-- Added support for debuffs that you do not cast, but wish to keep track of.
22:36.24Tullerwookies
22:36.30chiperwish someone would realize that about michigan, the state could use some economy
22:36.43Cryecti'm always surprised at how tech companies really haven't moved out of CA
22:36.58chiperI am too
22:37.04sdoubleyeah, I believe microsoft was also looking into iowa
22:37.30CryectSeems to just be the high abundance of tech companies therefore high tech potential employees being htere that keeps them there
22:37.38Estilneat, my western digital hard disk I had for long time has 100% reliability still
22:37.44Estilwith 1257 days of use logged
22:38.24chiperCryect: yeah, but they want more money
22:38.45ckknightCryect: curse is moving me and Bryan out to Alabama :-P
22:38.58Cryectckknight, you working for curse?
22:39.03ckknighterr, Kaelten*
22:39.06chiperbuild a company in a state with no tech industry and you'll have employees from all over the state begging for jobs
22:39.09Tullerand its brian and I :P
22:39.18Cryectpfft ckknight is more important ;)
22:39.32KaeltenTuller: no its Bryan and I
22:39.33Kaelten:P
22:39.46ckknightBryan and your mom
22:39.47ckknightburn!
22:39.50hypetechlol
22:39.59Kaeltenheh
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22:40.18Chaud0o chatter topic from today @ 5 pages
22:40.21CryectWhere you moving to in Alabama?
22:40.23Chaudclearly must be amazing addon
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22:40.54Tullerit should be Parley! *grumble*
22:41.11ChaudAntiarc does "A module that turns the word "invite" into clickable links that let you invite the speaker." work for "inv" too?
22:41.58ckknightCryect: Huntsville
22:42.22*** join/#wowace TaKeN (i=taken@82.160.249.102)
22:42.30Cryectnice place though little too small for me
22:43.01Noctshugs Tuller
22:43.03NoctsI love you.
22:43.06AntiarcChaud: Just invite, I can add inv, I guess
22:43.10Cryectwish you good luck when you move, always a pain
22:43.22JaxonIs Antiarc writing a chat-based mod?
22:43.28NoctsMay I ask, Tuller, was the move to Ace3 based on choice of ease of coding or actual overhead streamlining?
22:43.30Cryectyeah he wrote chatterbox last night
22:43.37KalrothAntiarc: I fixed it for me, but I'm not sure you'll like the fix at all. :)
22:43.40Cryectprat replacement
22:43.47JaxonHmm
22:43.54sbCryect: its "chatter" now
22:43.58KalrothAntiarc: The problem is that someone messed with the parent of ChatFrame#Tab
22:43.59Cryectits chatter now?
22:44.03sbyup
22:44.06Cryectchatterbox sounds better
22:44.09DaemonaAntiarc give tab-completion in chatterbox
22:44.17KalrothAntiarc: So the parent of ChatFrame1Tab was UIParent for me.
22:44.19sbCryect: config directory missing on svn (recount2) :)
22:44.26Cryectsb, thanks!
22:44.29KalrothAntiarc: I changed it to some dirty code and now it works :P
22:44.35TullerNocts: Overhead, of sorts.  I expect more things to use ace3 than used dongle
22:44.40Fix[EJ]Isn't it technically Chatter now, instead of Chatterbox? :P
22:44.44AntiarcKalroth: o.0
22:45.05NoctsTuller: What did you find lacking in dongle, over time?
22:45.16Estilhow many of you wouldn't move into a super duper nice house or apartment that lacks broadband internet? :p
22:45.18KalrothAntiarc: Don't ask me why, it has to be something in Chatter though - what do you do when you remove the boxes from the chatframe? Do you have that enabled yourself?
22:45.20dylanmTo be honest there wasn't much lacking in Dongle.
22:45.35Matrix110Estil I wouldnt :P
22:45.43CIA-3903cryect 072.4 * r69184 10Recount2/Configs/ (. MainList.lua):
22:45.43CIA-39Recount2:
22:45.43CIA-39-commits missing directory and file
22:45.46CryectEstil, I definately wouldn't
22:45.57TullerNocts: the only net gain over dongle, if there is one, is that I can use only parts of ace3.  Bagnon, for example does not include ace3 db
22:45.58Matrix110I would even search my house/appartment where I can get faster Inet :P
22:46.04ChaudEstil I would try to avoid it at all costs
22:46.12AntiarcKalroth: Those are custom frames. I never touch the tabs
22:46.18dylanmTuller: That is a nice part of it.
22:46.22ChaudIf I had to pick a city to work/go to school in, would be one with FIOS =D
22:46.32Estilqft
22:46.36KalrothWell the tabs got UIParent as parent for me, I'll test it again with no other addons loaded
22:46.45Estilcomcrap is annoying me, I would love to have fios
22:46.45Estil:(
22:46.46NoctsI see. So the choice was moreso for keeping with a more updated framework?
22:46.52Tullerpretty much
22:47.02Chaudare they the ones thorttling torrents?
22:47.08Estilyea
22:47.28CryectYou know I've had no issue with them throttling :-p
22:47.29ChaudThankfully charter doesn't do so =p
22:47.36Cryectstill get my 1MB/s downloads fine
22:47.44EstilI don't have any issue but
22:47.46ChaudI get 5/512 now, 10/700some is $5 more a month =(
22:47.51EstilI get random spike of lags in WoW that I didn't have before
22:48.00Matrix1102/196......
22:48.03Matrix110bullshit
22:48.04TullerI honestly don't think there's a huge amount of code shared between things.  The only real reason I switched to dongle in the first place was to have a well tested backend :P
22:48.05EstilI am wondering if Comcast is failing somewhere
22:48.07Chaudthat would make me cry
22:48.10sbMatrix110: get 16, now!
22:48.12Matrix110should sue my ISP for that speed
22:48.14Tullerace3 is juts a continuation of that for me
22:48.17Matrix110DOESNT WORK
22:48.20Estilhow much do you pay for 2/196
22:48.21sbhaha :)
22:48.27Chaudeven in the tiny misissippi town I used to live in has 16 down with comcast
22:48.31Chaudor whatever that one is
22:48.38NoctsTuller: How much extra code are you looking at if you went frame-work free and went pure lua for bongos3 and combuctor?
22:48.39Chaudtheir above 10 tier
22:48.43Matrix110Funny thing is I got my DSL when like no one even knew about it :D
22:48.54TullerNocts: negative amounts? :)
22:48.56Chaudthat is why yours is slow
22:48.58Chaudget cable !
22:49.02NoctsWait, what?
22:49.11Matrix110Cable doesnt work here aswell:P
22:49.11Estiljust make sure it isn't comcast
22:49.17NoctsSo you're code could be streamlined by not having a framework at all?
22:49.21Adirellelater
22:49.22TullerNocts: I'd more than likely come up with a less generalized solution
22:49.23Chaudcomcast wasn't too bad when I had them for ~2yrs
22:49.25KalrothAntiarc: Well I don't know then :p in "function mod:UIFrameFadeIn(cf)" cf = ChatFrame1Tab and cf:GetParent() = UIParent
22:49.29dylanmI'm not sure which total he's counting.
22:49.38NoctsTuller: I've always loved you. Have my babies.
22:49.43dylanmIf you're counting your code + libraries then yeah.
22:49.49AntiarcKalroth: Hm. Good to know. I'll dig into it.
22:49.55Matrix110city here is to small to either modernize the cable to have a back canal or to give us a DSLAM...
22:49.58CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69185 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: add isTanking to all class modules for symmetry
22:49.58CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69186 10Omen/Frame.lua: Omen: Merge 68769:69081 from trunk
22:50.10CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69187 10Omen/Modules/AOE/ (AOE.lua Localization/enUS.lua): Omen: Add "tank mode" to AOE display
22:50.22charonwtb testers to know if it's actually useful
22:50.54TullerNocts: now I'm confused :P
22:51.06charonalso, Antiarc, would you mind if i merged the raid target symbol fix for AOE mode over to trunk?
22:51.16AntiarcGo for it
22:51.18charonit still doesn't clear the symbols in some cases, but at least they're set correctly
22:51.20charonthanks
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22:52.07Polarinacharon: It's beta, breakage are expected. :)
22:52.16NeoTronAntiarc: so I can use AoE mode - some people still claim they don't get it
22:52.17CIA-3903charon * r69188 10Omen/ (Bar.lua Modules/AOE/AOE.lua): Omen: fix AOE mode raid target symbols
22:52.27NeoTronor rather it sounded like I was the only one where it was working
22:52.30KalrothAlso the FadeOut hook is being removed? wtf
22:52.39CIA-3903antiarc * r69189 10Chatter/Modules/ (Highlight.lua PlayerNames.lua):
22:52.40CIA-39Chatter:
22:52.40CIA-39- Fix highlight player name population
22:52.40CIA-39- Add a toggle for PlayerNames to choose whether or not to persist class data between sessions
22:52.45Cryectpeople use the fadeout hook?
22:52.51charonPolarina: it's not that easy. if i broke something in trunk, hundreds of people would flame antiarc for breaking omen
22:52.53Kalrothpoints at Antiarc.
22:53.09Kalrothself:SecureHook("UIFrameFadeIn")
22:53.09Kalrothself:SecureHook("UIFrameFadeOut")
22:53.21Matrix110some Warlocks from us tested the AoE mode but it failed because 1 of our 4 tanks doesnt use a single addon :D
22:53.27hypetechanybody know of a mod that can show me all the cooking recipes I don't have?
22:53.37NeoTronAntiarc: changed name from Chatterbox to chatter now
22:53.38NeoTron?
22:53.43KalrothNeoTron: yes
22:53.53Matrix110hypetech excel + wowhead is your friend!
22:53.59Jaxonhypetech: AckisRecipeList?
22:54.00Matrix110but i bet you dont got the
22:54.05Matrix11020 unique horde recipes
22:54.07Polarinacharon: It's not broken, "It's working as intended."
22:54.24KalrothCryect: There issues with the fadeout hook?
22:54.24hypetechMatrix110: that would take a long ass time :P I'm not THAT ocd about it
22:54.24hypetechlol
22:54.39Matrix110pft back pre TBC i made that for all my profession
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22:54.52sbAntiarc: if you are going to implement player name tab-completion (based on saved player names) - please make an option to make it guild only - thats why i disabled tab completion in prat, you press <tab> and it takes like 30s to display all names :)
22:54.53Matrix110then i realized that hordes are damn cheaters and got a horde only enchant!
22:55.03NeoTronis there a simple addon that will continuously warn you if you're missing configurable buffs?
22:55.07dylanmI think it's best for the party.
22:55.16dylanmLike when you want to quickly yell at someone.
22:55.37Fix[EJ]What is AltLinking in Chatter / Prat, anyways?
22:55.47Kalrothlink alts to their mains
22:55.49Daemonaits like
22:55.51Chaudsomething fun to disable
22:55.51dylanmOoh.
22:55.52Fix[EJ]Oh
22:55.56Daemonai have an alt, that is named Dargent
22:56.01Daemonaso if dargent types in guild chat
22:56.09Daemonait says Dargent (Daemona): ....
22:56.15Fix[EJ]yeah
22:56.23Matrix110its the BEST thing ever:P
22:56.32Matrix110if you got 100+ alts in the guild
22:56.36KalrothNo, it says "Dargent (Ze german!): ..."
22:56.52Fix[EJ]Antiarc: Something I always liked from Prat...the "scroll to bottom" reminder if you were scrolled up in a chatframe
22:56.57ChaudI only talk to a few people's alts, but I can see how it is useful =p
22:56.58Kalroth[00:57:00] UIFrameFadeIn (cf first)ChatFrame1Tab
22:56.58Kalroth[00:57:00] UIFrameFadeIn (cf after)UIParent
22:57.03Daemonano it says Daemona (who's wipe count on Twins passed 50 tonight)
22:57.09Fix[EJ]That was helpful when I was freaking out over why I "didn't" roll need on a few items...
22:57.14KalrothDaemona: haha
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22:57.24Daemonahealers fail to heal
22:57.37KalrothDaemona: Just bring more, I hear 12-13 is a good number
22:57.43Daemonai hear
22:57.49Daemonaraid stacking is for lamers
22:58.05KalrothSo is wiping repeatedly :P
22:58.07Daemonawe never stacked and managed top5 kills
22:58.23Daemonabut currently there is a debuff ticking on the raid
22:58.29KalrothYeah I know, my guild doesn't have the roster to raid stack, even if we wanted to
22:58.31Daemonaand magically ALL healers heal the same target
22:58.36Daemonathough there is group assignment
22:58.51Daemonaso within 10 sconds after the pull
22:58.52Chaudrofl "Today a Federal Appeals court upheld an important multi-million dollar patent win for TiVo. As part of the win, Dish will have to honor an injunction to turn off most of their customers DVRs"
22:58.52Daemona2 dead
22:59.12KalrothDaemona: Then you just need more brain heal(ers)
22:59.23Daemonacurrently it seems
22:59.27Daemonaour healers just are stupid
22:59.36Dashkalupdates his mythtv svn grab before TiVo kills it
22:59.49Daemonacause if you get told: heal your group, if its full use fast heals to cross
22:59.56Daemonadunno whats not to understand about that
23:00.21Fix[EJ]Also, is it me, or do none of the sound files come with Chatt :Z
23:00.25KalrothDaemona: Our paladins prefer FoL spamming random targets (instead of HL spamming the MT), so we'd win on Twins!
23:00.34Fix[EJ]Chatter, even
23:01.02Matrix110Daemona they cant be ontop the healing meter then!
23:01.51Matrix110Best wipes are still
23:01.52Daemonathe best thing is... they don't admit/understand they are the problem
23:01.53KalrothA few Illidan kills ago we had: 1 holy paladin spamming FoL on himself instead of right flame tank. 1 holy priest spamming GH on the left flame tank. Result is no heals on right flame tank for 12 seconds. :P
23:02.03Daemonathe class leads just come up with new stupid tactics
23:02.08Daemonalast stand like this or that
23:02.12Daemona<3
23:02.13Kalroth(the priest was supposed to heal right flame tank too :)
23:02.13Daemona...
23:02.14Matrix110Maintank(whos not tanking atm) asks in vent for a heal suddenly EVERY healer heals him and the current tanks die :D
23:02.24winkillerlol
23:03.36sbso its your MTs fault then imo :o
23:03.49KaaosaThe problem is people asking for heals, imo
23:03.55sbtell him to never ask for heal on vent/ts :/
23:03.56Matrix110well he wouldve died otherwise
23:03.56sbyup
23:03.57winkillernope
23:04.04sbbad idea
23:04.09winkillerI ask for a heal when I need it :P
23:04.16KaaosaDon't ask for heals.
23:04.16Starinniaif the tank dies, its the healer's fault; if a healer dies, its the tank's fault; if anyone else dies, its their own damn fault
23:04.23KaaosaWE KNOW WE HAVE TO HEAL :[
23:04.34Daemonahaha "lets tank both twins on top of each other... rogues dont use bladeflurry..."
23:04.39KalrothAntiarc: I'll just hack it for now, at least until others gets the issue too :)
23:04.41Daemonai wonder what happens if i just go offline
23:04.53winkillerbeat that: on Caribdis, HS/Pot/Bandage on cooldown - dead. CombatRez, same again
23:04.58winkillerleast healed raidmember :P
23:05.43NeoTronDaemona: that's a lock tank fight from what I gather?
23:05.59Daemonasorry, i sisgned a non-disclosure aggreement
23:06.04NeoTronbut .. 50 wipes on SWP cotnent doesn't sound bad
23:06.10NeoTronsounds like it's back where it should be in difficulty
23:06.29NeoTronDaemona: I've seen the Vis Maior kill. I know their warlock tank. what else is old?
23:06.39NeoTronI'm mainly curious if it's a FR lock or not fight
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23:06.45Daemonait is bad
23:06.53Daemonaif all of those are caused by bad healing
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23:07.52Daemona3 paladins, 4 shamans, COH priest, resto druid, 3 shadows with talented VE for grp heal.... and they fail to keep the raid reliably alive
23:08.39KalrothYou need to wear +sta gear!
23:08.56Kalrothis full of good suggestions tonight.
23:09.34Daemonaa pity the combatlog still doesnt show death messages.. else i could show you some funny WWS logs
23:09.54NeoTronyeah
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23:09.58NeoTronthat is quite annoying actually
23:10.24winkillerI'm glad that I'm in a guild with healers who play 95% decent
23:11.10JaxonI'm in a guild with some sort of savant healers then.  We never take more than 7 to any fight
23:11.14NeoTronif you're on twins your healers can't be all bad
23:11.28winkillernothing beats all tanks dead and all dps alive
23:11.32JaxonThen again, we are working on Council.
23:11.48winkillerwe're on Vashj atm
23:12.00Daemona^^
23:13.08winkillerMonday first time in MH, quite curious
23:14.03vhaarrif your raid leader is well prepared for MH, you can oneshot the first 4 bosses with a vashj guild
23:14.21winkillerwe'll see :P
23:14.24vhaarrthe trash will be harder, actually
23:14.40winkillerRage is enough. glad if we down him
23:15.01KalrothNaw, Azgalor will cause some wipes, vhaarr
23:15.16KalrothMost guilds do 3/5 on 1-2 raid days though
23:15.29vhaarrnot if your raid leader is prepared and you keep the taurens alive during trash
23:15.31vhaarrwe oneshot azgalor
23:15.43Deloralawe got rage to 43% without any explaination because we just wanted to "practice waves"
23:15.54Deloralabut with 2 prot palas ... worked like a charm :D
23:16.04Daemonawinterchill is a push over
23:16.09Kalrothvhaarr: And you had never been there before? Your raid leader and the guild?
23:16.09Delorala^^
23:16.11Daemonaif you trinket out of the iceblock
23:16.14vhaarrKalroth: yeah
23:16.57KalrothDunno, first time I've heard about a new guild not wiping at least once to Azgalor, taurens or not
23:17.06Kalrotherr, a guild new to*
23:17.13vhaarrheh, you don't know what, if I'm lying or not?
23:17.21ramozAntiarc: colornames work for enGB atleast
23:17.22vhaarrwe had a 8% wipe on kaz'rogal
23:17.30vhaarrfirst time, then kill
23:17.53vhaarranetheron was 2 wipes because we didn't know the infernals immolation aura ticked for as much as it does
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23:17.57KalrothYeah, the trash to Kaz is harder than himself
23:18.13vhaarroneshot rage and azgalor though
23:18.25Starinniapriest in my guild has his mana regen faster than the debuff can take it away
23:18.36StarinniaKaz is fun for us
23:18.46KalrothSure, then he's not T5 geared only :)
23:19.41Starinniai think he only uses 2 T5
23:19.55Starinniafew ZA pieces
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23:22.21charonany warlock willing to test the soul shatter fix in my threat branch?
23:24.24stew_aanyone else get omen not showing itself if you log in already in a raid and have it set only to come on in party/raid
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23:28.20Deloralaoh, i bug i got with grid again today, though i thought it was fixed? leaving party/raid in combat and reconnecting infight fu**s up layout
23:28.28Deloralaso u only see yourself
23:28.46Deloralabut i read that was fixed only a few days before?
23:30.11CIA-3903ackis * r69190 10AckisRecipeList/ACE3/:
23:30.11CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
23:30.11CIA-39- Delete folder
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23:34.11CIA-3903durcyn * r69191 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: fix filtering, thanks Ruphinz.
23:35.07CIA-3903charon 07charon * r69192 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
23:35.07CIA-39Threat-2.0: Handle Soulshatter miss on 29858 too.
23:35.07CIA-39Grepping through combat logs, it seems that Soulshatter randomly picks
23:35.07CIA-3929858 or 32835 for its SPELL_MISSED messages, sometimes even both for
23:35.10CIA-39the same mob/cast. WTF.
23:36.28HjalteTwo spells in one. Yay!
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23:38.53basslingoWhat would yall say the average Ace2 memory footprint is?
23:39.11charonhttp://vmp.ethz.ch/~thomas/Omen-69188-soulshatter-fix.zip
23:39.13ben___basslingo: 14
23:39.16charonif anyone wants to test that the "easy way"
23:39.27basslingoben___: 14 kb?
23:39.30ben___no
23:39.42Hjaltecharon: how'd you like it tested?
23:39.44charonnote that threat will have the branch revision number, so everyone will rush to files.wowace looking for the update that isn't there
23:39.48Starinnia1.03 mb is my current Ace2 usage
23:40.07basslingoStarinnia: ty, was just checking.   mines about the same
23:40.13charonHjalte: just soul shatter a bit and tell me if it correctly leaves threat intact if the spell was resisted
23:40.43charonsince it has such a nice short cooldown you'll probably need to raid with it or whatever
23:41.09HjalteIt's hard to get a resist on non-bosses :\
23:41.24charonyeah :(
23:41.37Primernothing more frustrating than a level 19 twink in WSG (me), and the rest of my team is comprised of newbs
23:43.04charonHjalte: however, it's almost trunk except for two minor fixes and that soulshatter thing, so it shouldn't break during a raid. and if it still does you can always flame me
23:43.04sag_ich_nichtbasslingo is an idiot
23:43.07sag_ich_nicht:)
23:43.12sag_ich_nicht~insult basslingo
23:43.50Hjaltecharon: afraid the raid ended a couple of hours ago for me :)
23:43.58Nandiniare there any other invariant characteristics of players other than race/sex/class?
23:44.11Nandini(besides their appearance)
23:45.51CIA-3903ackis * r69193 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFu.lua:
23:45.51CIA-39FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
23:45.51CIA-39- Fix so when you click on drop down menu it opens up the trade skill
23:46.20charonHjalte: i'm in no hurry. if you, or anyone else, can tell me in a few days whether it works, that's fine. i just don't want it to rot on that branch for lack of testing
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23:47.41Hjaltecharon: i'm guessing it can't be worse than now? (where i haven't encountered problems though, as i havent seen any resists in a while)
23:48.31charonshrugs
23:48.40charonit could fail to run ;)
23:49.13charoni guess if it suddenly ignored all shatters, that would be worse than ignoring all resists
23:49.48Hjaltecharon: oh, that's right
23:49.51Dashkalmath sucks
23:51.05charonand being the emo bear that i am, i wouldn't want to deal with a horde of angry warlocks
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23:52.52charonnight all
23:57.54hypetechis chatter in a working state or is it buggy?

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