IRC log for #wowace on 20080202

00:00.11Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mpnN2fVYQ < awesome
00:00.48Xinhuanckknight, you might as well let ppl write code in dogtags ;p
00:00.58Ellipsis`don't say that
00:01.03Ellipsis`he threatened to do that already
00:01.03Xinhuancode(UnitName("player"))
00:01.18ckknight[Lua(UnitName("player"))] :-P
00:01.21ckknightnah.
00:01.36ckknightit seems hard and mostly pointless
00:01.43ckknightexpecially when you have to deal with updating
00:01.50ckknighthey thul
00:01.59Xinhuanpossibly, but essentially, its still a loadstring()
00:02.08CIA-903funkydude * r59955 10LightQueue/ (LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc):
00:02.08CIA-9LightQueue: v2.1
00:02.08CIA-9Only print to chat when you actually group queue AV, instead of printing every BG popup.
00:02.10thul'm bored :-(
00:02.29ckknightXinhuan: yea, but there's still issues with when to update
00:02.33ckknightso it's unlikely I'll do it
00:02.38ckknightI thought about it, too
00:02.42Xinhuanhmmm, updating, true
00:02.54Xinhuanlike when UnitName("target") changes
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00:03.21ckknightright
00:03.59thuli start ebaying when I'm bored
00:03.59thulno good
00:03.59Xinhuanunless you add in a tag that specifies an update interval
00:03.59Xinhuansay 0.5 secs
00:03.59Ellipsis`...do not want
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00:05.40hardermmmh
00:05.43harderi've a question
00:05.43CIA-903ckknight * r59956 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/ (Range.lua Status.lua):
00:05.43CIA-9LibDogTag-2.0 - add tag [IsVisible]
00:05.43CIA-9- add tags [RangeMin] and [RangeMax]
00:05.43CIA-9- make [Range] an alias, is smarter now
00:05.44ckknightXinhuan: too much hassle
00:05.46Wobin<3 nyhm
00:05.57ckknightbtw, that commit is Ellipsis`'s code
00:05.59ckknightso if it breaks
00:06.02ckknightblame her
00:06.02Xinhuanhah
00:06.04Ellipsis`=[
00:06.07harderonce runned setup.exe (WAU) there should be something "installed"?
00:06.13Xinhuanwhats [RangeMin] do?
00:06.16Pkekyo|STOP BEING SO BLOODY PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:06.20Ellipsis`it's MinRange
00:06.23Ellipsis`unless ckknight changed it
00:06.24JoshBorkeway to go Ellipsis`, way to add to dogtag!
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00:06.39harderor i need to run always setup.exe?
00:06.40Ellipsis`it's stuff from RangeCheck-1.0, if you don't have the lib it won't do anything
00:06.45cchomeis there a mod that will display when my FERAL Charge is up into Parrot mod??
00:06.47Hobbyhaven't looked at the libs in over a month, what's dogtag used for?
00:07.01ckknightfuck
00:07.04ckknightthe commit note's wrong
00:07.08ckknightit's [MinRange] and [MaxRange]
00:07.10ckknightmy bad.
00:07.20ckknightI'll just bonk you back, Ellipsis`
00:07.23Xinhuanwhat does that tag do btw?
00:07.36ckknightXinhuan: feel free to check the docs ;-)
00:08.18NefarionHobby: it's a library for markup syntax for unit data, for unit frames and such
00:09.13Hobbyis ag-uf supporting the tags in their fields yet?
00:09.28Nefariondon't think so
00:09.31ckknightHobby: agUF took a completely different direction
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00:09.39Nefarionpitbull, cowtip, dahud and a few others do
00:09.44ckknightPitBull/DogTag allow for uberconfigurability
00:09.51ckknightwhereas agUF provides a few sane defaults
00:09.53Nefarionyeah dogtag is awesome
00:09.55ckknightboth good approaches
00:10.23cchomeis there a mod that will display when my FERAL Charge is up into Parrot mod??
00:11.06Nefariondoes parrot handle cooldowns by default?
00:11.07Ellipsis`parrot displays skill cooldowns being ready by default
00:11.15Hobbypitbull and dogtag i switched from a few months ago, when a patch caused some crashes when zoning into a raid with them
00:11.24Hobbyjust never tried them since
00:11.29Chompersthat was fixed in about an hour
00:11.45Hobbyfound that out later
00:12.07Hobbyturns out damage meters was still locking me up, thought it was the bars until i figure out what was hanging
00:12.24Hobbyyay assessment now heh
00:13.59ChompersRecount too, elsia has been making some nice fixes recently
00:14.20Hobbyi tried it...great mod just prefer the assessment interface
00:14.53Hobbyboth i'm assuming need a major overhaul for 2.4
00:15.28Nefarioni think everything will
00:15.30Nefarion=/
00:15.38Nefarioneverything that picks up data from the combat log at least
00:15.46Hobbyyeah isn't much that doesn't touch the cl :/
00:17.05CIA-903grayhoof 072.0 * r59957 10Proximo/frame.lua: Proximo: committed correct frame file
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00:32.03potemkinwhats a good simple error capturing mod
00:32.30KivinBugsack/Bug Grabber
00:32.36kenlyricyou need something that grabs bugs
00:32.41kenlyricoh, kivin made it too easy
00:32.48KivinXD
00:32.57Hobbyin pitbull are the pet frames tied to the party frames or their own set?
00:33.14Kivinthere's Player, Player's Pet, Party, Party's Pet
00:33.22Kivinall different frames/frameclusters
00:33.31Hobbyis the partypet a seperate set or each pet frame is tied to it's partyx frame?
00:33.38Hobbyah k
00:34.30Hobbymy old monitor was 1680x1050, same as the laptop....new one is 2560x1600, so i had to adjust scale, etc
00:34.47Hobbynow i'm reluctant to make major ui changes since i'll have to do quite a few things twice :/
00:35.01Kivin:P
00:35.05[dRaCo]2560x1600? 10000"?
00:35.12Hobby30"
00:35.24[dRaCo]nice
00:35.48Hobbythe older dell 30007WFP, though that 3008wfp is pretty sexy
00:36.28kenlyricHobby: 2.4 is 3 months out, easy
00:36.43Hobbyhehe yeah suppose i'll have to do it then
00:37.17Hobbyi stil have some very old ported code around as well, to see full 3d unit models, etc
00:37.43Hobbyvery little practical use but for my focus frame on the sheep, i've gotten too used to it
00:38.01Hobbynever liked the head only portraits
00:38.20kenlyricme either
00:38.24kenlyricthat's why I turned them off
00:38.38kenlyricsince, the game helpfully draws the entire character on my screen.
00:40.42Hobbycan I load pitbull and ag at once?
00:40.47Antiarchttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/e77/WoW/stealinmahbracket.jpg
00:41.08Hobbyi have a lot of other frames that come pretty close to my unit frames, would be handy to get them positioned exactly
00:41.54Ellipsis`I loled Antiarc
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00:42.06kenlyricyou... uh... I don't think you can.
00:42.12kenlyricyou gotta pick one or the other.
00:42.29Hobbyk, screeshot and eyeballing it then
00:42.32CIA-903funkydude * r59958 10LightQueue/ (LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc):
00:42.32CIA-9LightQueue: v2.2
00:42.32CIA-9- Now works with join messages from PreformAVEnabler
00:42.42kenlyricI don't get it.
00:42.48kenlyricyou switching from one to the other?
00:42.51Hobbyyeah
00:43.04Hobbyfrom ag to pitbull
00:43.08kenlyricI just keep moving them until they're perfect.
00:43.45HobbyUnrelated question...anyone have a replacement for the default capture frame?
00:43.46kenlyricbeen doing it since tbc release, still not finished :)
00:43.55HobbyHehe me either
00:44.32HobbyReferring to the []========[] frame under the minimap cluster
00:45.02kenlyricI've never heard of this.
00:45.12kenlyricabove the durability frame?
00:45.15HobbyIt's the one that appears when capturing a PvP objective
00:45.24Hobbythe alliance to horde bar
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00:45.32kenlyricnever noticed it
00:45.42Hobby0.o
00:46.11kenlyricit's probably still under my minimap :)
00:46.21Hobbyhaha
00:46.39Hobbyyeah i have the problem of it being slightly off the screen since i've moved my minimap cluster
00:46.42kenlyricwhich is at the bottom of my screen
00:48.05kenlyricif you don't ever do that, it's not something you'd miss.
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00:48.57Finharder: ask in the WAU forum
00:49.05Fin-forum+thread
00:49.29kenlyricone annoyance I have no is that the quest timer sticks under my minimap and won't stay moved. I can turn on smm movers, but when it goes away and comes back, it's back under the map
00:49.29kenlyricwtb questimerfu
00:49.45tinderboxanyone good with dogtags?
00:49.55tinderboxi want to show my level, but have it blue if restxp > 0
00:50.06tinderboxLevel:RestXP:IsGreater(0):Blue  doesnt seem to work
00:50.19FinHobby: yeah, I had exactly the same problem - actually I didn't even know that frame existed for a long time, because I've had my minimap at the bottom of my screen since before TBC
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00:50.29CIA-903ckknight * r59959 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua Modules/Auras.lua): LibDogTag-2.0 - change the internals of the event system, update Aura for it.
00:50.43Ellipsistinderbox: [RestXP > 0?Blue][Level]
00:50.44Finkenlyric: I use MoveIt to fix that problem
00:50.52Nefarion[RestXP:IsGreater(0)?Blue][Level]
00:50.55Nefarioni think
00:50.59Finkenlyric: also have you got "lockdown" checked?
00:51.02Ellipsisyeah, same thing
00:51.18Nefarionoh there's a '>' modifier in dogtags?
00:51.19Nefarionerr, ot modifier
00:51.22Nefarionyou know what i mean
00:51.32ckknightNefarion: yea, I added it
00:51.39ckknightit acts as :IsGreater
00:51.44ckknightall the comparison operators are in
00:51.48ckknightas well as arithmetic
00:51.48Nefarioncool
00:51.50ckknight[1+2] => "3"
00:51.57ckknight[1 < 2] => ""
00:52.01ckknightwait, no
00:52.06ckknight[1 < 2] => "1"
00:52.09ckknight[1 > 2] => ""
00:52.11ckknightthat's it
00:52.12Finhahah
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00:52.51KivinHmm
00:53.01Finmmh?
00:53.19KivinA couple of teenagers just came dredging up through nearly waist deep snow to bang on my front door and ask me if they could come in and talk to me about Jesus Christ.
00:53.47ckknighthave you heard the good news, Kivin?
00:53.51HobbyDid they ask if you had found him?
00:53.51Finit's dedication like this that brings joy to my heart and reinforces my faith in the lord almighty
00:53.51ckknightHe is Risen.
00:53.56HobbyDid you offer to help look?
00:54.05KivinHobby: lol
00:54.08AmadeoAnyone know some good Shaman addons?
00:54.23tinderboxthanks guys, that worked
00:54.33KivinWhen I told them I wasn't interested, they retorted "but he's central to God's plans..."
00:54.50HobbyAmadeo: There's a delete button on the character screen that works :)
00:54.57Finooh, good one - they got you there, eh?
00:55.02ckknightpersonally, I'm not fond of a patriarchal dictatorial religion
00:55.04Fincan't catch out those guys, sharp as nails
00:55.10ckknightmy belief system is far more democratic
00:55.23AmadeoHobby: I love the class
00:55.34HobbyBlizzard doesn't :(
00:55.39ckknightwell, not democratic
00:55.41ckknightegalitarian
00:56.25KivinI guess it's fun fact hour in Cenarion Circle's /trade
00:58.06AmadeoHobby: I'm sure it's a different story at 70, but right now it's incredible
00:58.25KivinI wonder how much 10 haste rating is at level 1
00:58.36Arrowmastersame as level 10
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00:58.50KivinAnd how much is that?
00:58.55Arrowmasterno clue
00:59.12KivinThink I'm going to put minor haste on a pair of white gloves for the next toon i level up.  Should be good for a laugh
00:59.22NeoTron1% is like 15,7 rating or something I think
00:59.23haste>:(
00:59.30KivinNeoTron: not at lv.1 :P
00:59.30HobbyShammys need some CC love mainly
00:59.33NeoTronfor spell cast
00:59.35Kivinmaybe at lv.60/70
00:59.45NeoTronKivin: haste is a relative stat not absolute
01:00.03Arrowmasterits a rating
01:00.06KivinNeoTron: I'm aware of how ratings work
01:00.07Arrowmasterall ratings scale
01:00.21Kivinthe lower your level, the more effect it has
01:02.07ThorgardNuts.
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01:03.26Arrowmasteri think i may have hosed my wow install
01:03.34KivinD:
01:03.41Arrowmasterbunch of mpq's are gone now
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01:03.50Kivinoh oh
01:03.56Kivindoes repair work
01:04.01Arrowmasterdont know
01:04.03Arrowmasternot trying yet
01:04.17Arrowmasterstill busy trying to test something
01:05.17cchomeis there a mod that will display when my FERAL Charge is up into Parrot mod??
01:05.41Arrowmasterdoesnt parrot already show when cooldowns are up?
01:05.58cchomehmm guess i must've had it disabled
01:06.18Ellipsis...deja vu...
01:06.56Nefarionwhen making ui dropdown menus (with UIDropDownMenu_Initialize, ..._AddButton), what does the "value" key in the table do?
01:06.58kenlyricI'm fairly sure that parrot is not showing the Overpower warning in other stances... so I wonder if i can copy it to other stances.
01:07.04Nefarionwowwiki's documentation has a lot of holes
01:07.25kenlyricI'm sure it's just a trigger that reads off a parry (or dodge, whatever triggers overpower)
01:07.38aestillol. cchome parrot will do that.
01:07.39Arrowmasterits not
01:07.41Megalonkenlyric: dodge
01:08.10Arrowmasterperty sure its actually detecting when the spell becomes usable
01:08.18kenlyricbah
01:08.21aestilEllipsis: wtb more info on 2.4 combat log.  also, make my UI not buggy.  i should go simple on my UI.  I just can't bring myself to do it.  plus i don't want to use that clock/latency meter that eveyrone uses.
01:08.23kenlyricit's useable!
01:08.28kenlyricI just have to switch stance
01:08.34Arrowmasteractually check the default stuff
01:08.37kenlyricit's the one annoyance about arms and zerker stance
01:08.41Arrowmasterits in there somewhere
01:09.04kenlyricyou can't go down the arms tree without imp overpower, which makes overpower awesome, but you have to stance out to hit it.
01:10.34Ellipsisaestil: what more info do you want? there's a lot of technical stuff blue has already told us
01:10.41Ellipsisalso, what's so buggy and how can I help?
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01:11.05cchomeweird my parrot isn't showing me when my feral charge is up
01:11.22cchomenotifcations tests work but not showing CDs
01:12.12aestilthe panel around grid randomly shuts itself down.  and the quartz buff bars is pissing me off.
01:13.34vithos.points 622
01:13.36Ellipsisnothing you can do about the buff bars except lag less
01:13.45aestili'm not lagging.
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01:14.12aestilof everyone here, only you live closer to the server than me.
01:15.05Ellipsisuh
01:15.13Ellipsisfirst of all, realms are located all over the place
01:15.19Ellipsissecond of all, I don't live where you think I live :P
01:17.53vithos.ap 622
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01:18.04vithos!ap 622
01:18.05ThraeBotvithos: Arena points from a rating of 622 is, 2v2: 114, 3v3: 132, 5v5: 150
01:18.11vithos!r 622
01:18.21vithos!ratings 622
01:18.21Xinhuan622 rating gives 150(5s), 132(3s) and 114(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
01:19.44Xinhuan622 rating is very hard to get :D
01:19.58Xinhuandid you mean !ar 622 or !points 622 ? hehe
01:20.43aestilyou move away from OC?
01:20.48Ellipsisyes
01:20.51aestiland my realm is almost for sure down in irvine
01:20.54Xinhuanyou have to be like, purposely losing to reach 622 rating hehe
01:21.04aestilbreak up with your former live in boyfriend?
01:21.08Ellipsisyup
01:21.17aestilliving with ckk now?
01:21.25Ellipsisyup
01:21.28aestilnice.
01:21.35Ellipsislol
01:21.40ckknightnot so nice, honestly
01:21.43Ellipsis=[
01:21.43ckknightshe's running around and stuff
01:21.47ckknightI really need to buy a collar
01:21.49kenlyricwait, you guys are  really a couple?
01:22.01ckknightkeep her in line a bit better
01:22.01kenlyricI thought you were just channel couple.
01:22.02ckknightkenlyric: yea
01:22.07ckknightno, hang on
01:22.13Ellipsis!
01:22.15aestilchannel couple?
01:22.19aestilwtf is that?
01:22.24Hobbyhaha
01:22.24aestilyou can't just invent lingo.
01:22.26kenlyricyeah, fake IRC couple.
01:22.29ckknightI just grabbed her boobs
01:22.35Ellipsisfor no apparent reason?
01:22.39kenlyricthey hit on each other but don't actually have a relationship.
01:22.40ckknightpretty much.
01:22.53Ellipsiskenlyric: I hope we have a relationship, otherwise I'm a total slut :(
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01:22.58aestilliez.  10 to 1 she moved back to seatle.
01:23.03Ellipsislol
01:23.03Ellipsisno
01:23.05kenlyriccasual sex is a type of relationship
01:23.07ckknightI'll take that bet.
01:23.12EllipsisI'd rather kill myself than go back there
01:23.20aestilso much coffee.
01:23.23kenlyricyou guys meet here?
01:23.23ckknightI don't want to deal with a body.
01:23.33ckknightyea
01:23.45kenlyriczomg, lua babies
01:23.50Ellipsisrawr~
01:23.53EllipsisI adopted DogTag
01:23.55Ellipsisso
01:24.01aestili read that as lua boobies.
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01:24.14aestilwhat, so thats why ckk is making documentation for it now?
01:24.17Ellipsisstill, we'll have little addons of our own someday
01:24.20aestilEllipsis: how's my chat mod coming?
01:24.22kenlyricyou horndog aestil
01:24.23Ellipsisaestil: your mom.
01:24.33aestilEllipsis: i dont' like my mom.
01:24.43Ellipsisand I don't like your chat mod
01:24.54aestilEllipsis: fail
01:25.00Amadeoit's all about mumble
01:25.02Ellipsisno u
01:25.07EllipsisI'm with Amadeo on this one
01:25.09Ellipsisgo mumble yourself
01:25.12Ellipsis=]
01:25.15vithos!ar 622
01:25.15ThraeBotvithos: Arena rating from 622 points is, 2v2: 1838, 3v3: 1766, 5v5: 1710
01:25.19vithosyes :p
01:25.19Arrowmasterwow uses arial narrow for the default chat font right?
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01:26.22AmadeoI like to paste random lines of text with mumble so people ask me how I did it
01:26.28AmadeoThen I tell them they have to input the Konami code
01:27.03Arrowmaster↑↑↓↓←→←→BA
01:27.08Industriallolll
01:27.13IndustrialArrowmaster wins
01:27.17aestilmumble is tullers mod?
01:27.22Industrialno chuckg
01:27.24Ellipsis^
01:27.26aestilah.
01:27.28Ellipsisalso: hai Industrial
01:27.31aestilit has no config eys?
01:27.32Ellipsishow ya feelin? ;D
01:27.38Ellipsisaestil: lua only, but it's quite simple
01:27.48Ellipsiscomment a line here, change a number there, etc.
01:27.49aestili don't know lua.  it won't be simple.
01:27.56Ellipsiscan you type "--"?
01:28.00aestilno.
01:28.04Ellipsisok, then don't use mumble
01:28.05IndustrialEllipsis: we have a saying; A man in the evening, a man in the morning. So evn though its evening again im fine!11oneone
01:28.26Arrowmasterim going to have to look for this mumble mod now
01:28.28aestilwow, tmi indie.  keep your sexual exploits to yourself.
01:28.31AmadeoI thought that was the old Troll emote
01:28.46Industrialaestil: eh thats about booze kthx
01:28.48Finoh dear indeed: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ3SVLUolwc&feature=related
01:29.06aestilIndustrial: just messing with you.
01:29.26Industrialwtb 1 sarcasm
01:29.31aestili think i'm the only person losing sleep over what will probably be a 'dead' time period for dmg meter mods.
01:29.49buuI CARE
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01:30.05aestiland wtf.  wws will for sure not work for a while right?
01:30.08aestilaaarrrggggh
01:30.33cchomehmm damn parrot isn't displaying anything
01:30.38CIA-903ckknight * r59960 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - streamline the way events and onupdate handlers are done, currently all still in the core, but preparing to move into modules
01:30.42cchomegod damn parrot broke all of a sudden
01:30.55Ellipsisyour parrot is dead?
01:31.19ckknightI declare this parrot is deceased
01:31.21ckknightit is no more
01:31.23Amadeokenlyric: There you go
01:31.32ckknightcchome: it works fine for me, btw
01:31.37Ellipsisme three!
01:31.52aestilwtf, is dog tag turning into an addon all to itself?
01:31.52cchomeyah i reset it
01:31.55cchomenow it works
01:31.57Ellipsisso Industrial, why WAS there tomato sauce on your sweater?
01:32.25kenlyricAmadeo: where do I go?
01:32.48kenlyricaestil: dogtag is a lib. it's like an addon without settings.
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01:32.53Amadeokenlyric: You were talking about the last time you saw someone *giggle* earlier
01:33.15aestilkenlyric: i know what dog tag is, why is it getting modules?
01:33.29kenlyricAmadeo: ok. where do I go?
01:33.32kenlyricdid someone giggle again?
01:33.34Ellipsisaestil: just a code cleanup thing
01:33.46kenlyrici see it now
01:33.53kenlyricno, "giggle" is ok.
01:33.59aestilare you commiting on ckknights  account?
01:34.02Ellipsisno
01:34.04kenlyric*giggles* is not
01:34.07Amadeokenlyric: Oh, ok... "giggles"
01:34.16aestilare you commenting his code for him?
01:34.18kenlyricit's the asterisk around it.
01:34.20Ellipsisactually, I'm not even nagging him anymore
01:34.23Ellipsishe's doing all this stuff himself
01:34.27kenlyricit's done by someone who doesn't understand how the /me action works
01:34.45Ellipsis*makes kenlyric cry*
01:34.46AmadeoIt's just another form of emphasis
01:35.02FinI giggled!
01:35.04Finearlier!
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01:35.10Finbut I /me giggled!
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01:35.42Fin</important update!>
01:35.43Fin!
01:36.09Fingoes back to b3ta
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01:36.34AmadeoAnyone ever use the addon Enhancer?
01:36.50Finnotes Elli's lack of interest in important current events
01:37.03Ellipsisit's true
01:37.08EllipsisI couldn't care less what's going on around me
01:37.11Fingiggles!
01:37.52Finwhat's the shortest joke known to man? gnomes!
01:38.13AmadeoI hate Gnomes
01:38.24Amadeoand male Trolls
01:38.27Amadeoand Female Taurens
01:38.29Finwhat do you call the leader of a street gang? the gang-king - because they're all about playah versus playah
01:38.36Fingiggles!
01:38.38Amadeohm, what else...
01:38.50AmadeoFemale Dwarves
01:38.55AmadeoI love male Dwarves though <3
01:39.57sdoubleopinions please:  Can this build be a decent main healer for TBC instances? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxhZZxcft0chVsot with 4764 health, 5789 mana, and +263 healing.  I'm protection wanting to go for some dps for leveling the rest of the way.
01:42.36[dRaCo]healer with 263 healing?
01:42.43[dRaCo]you gotta be kidding.
01:43.24kenlyriclevel 63
01:43.33kenlyricprobably been taking most prot/dps plate.
01:43.36kenlyricI could see it :)
01:44.03sdoubleI've been protection since 35 to 63
01:44.20sdoublebut now in outlands, I get like 70 dps trying to kill things
01:44.29sdoubleso the levelling it quite slow
01:44.31markmumm
01:44.38markmdo you have devastate?
01:44.43kenlyricwell, with that gear you're going to need a heal spec
01:44.44sdoublepaladin
01:44.46markmoh
01:44.47markmdur
01:44.49markmI should ready
01:44.51markmread
01:45.29[dRaCo]with that gear you need new gear, tbh
01:45.57sdoubleyeah, that's pretty much my point
01:46.23[dRaCo]with some halfway decent gear you should be able to heal through most instances, yes
01:48.55aestilEllipsis: regular sex suits him apaprently.
01:50.29Ellipsiswho?
01:50.31Ellipsiswhat?
01:50.34Ellipsischeese?
01:50.51AmadeoAsking who seems like a bad sign
01:51.20Ellipsislol
01:51.30Ellipsisassuming it's someone I'm supposedly having sex with, yes it does
01:53.02Amadeohttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info8174-Munchies.html
01:54.24AmadeoI have to try that
01:54.59aestilim hungry
01:55.20aestili hate the writers guild.
01:55.30Amadeo<Writers>
01:56.42AmadeoI heard they're all Druids..they just Travel form and run away
01:58.52sdoubleDamn paladins.  As holy, I'm going to have the same problem I'm having now as protection.  =/
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02:04.31kenlyricdon't see how you could have troubles as prot.
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02:04.36kenlyrichow many do you pull at once?
02:05.16kenlyricaestil: no, you hate the studios for trying to fuck them in the ass AND the mouth at the same time
02:05.23aestilfine.  i hate someone though.  nothign good on tv.
02:05.30aestili'm worried about chuck and 30 rock.
02:05.34aestilthey better come right back.
02:06.16sdoubleall the quest mobs are so spreadout in outlands half the time I'd have to run for a minute in some direction to grab a third
02:06.37sdoubleThen when I get there, 4 casters respawn.
02:06.49sdoubleSo i basically kept it at 2, 3 if I was lucky
02:06.55kenlyricwell, holy will be much worse. Only go holy if you're going to instance grind.
02:07.22sdoubleyeah, I'd like to go ret, but I won't be of any use in instances.
02:08.10kenlyricwell, get some healing gear.
02:08.26kenlyricspec won't really matter in lowbie outlands instances.
02:08.44charonwhat are the enchanting prices on your realms? on mine, some do rare enchants for 5g so that people have come to expect that
02:09.09charonwhich pisses me off :-\
02:09.11sdoubleeverything on my realm is horribly overpriced
02:10.37Arrowmasterdoes the US launcher have a dropdown box at the bottom of the options menu for language?
02:11.01sdoubleno
02:11.14Arrowmaster100% sure on that?
02:11.35ulicI've never seen one
02:11.36kenlyricyes
02:11.36sdoubleI've never seen it.
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02:11.53EllipsisI just checked, it doesn't
02:11.59Ellipsisoptions only has patch download stuff
02:12.10sdoubleyeah, also just checked again
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02:12.21Arrowmasterok so i guess the fun will really begin once these 2 other language packs are finished downloading
02:12.25Arrowmasterbecause mine does
02:12.38kenlyricus client has language packs?
02:12.56Arrowmasterright now it has 'English (US)' 'English (EU)' and 'Spanish'
02:13.11Ellipsisare you mexican?
02:13.16Arrowmasterno
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02:21.43jscinozis it just me or does wow like to use the CPU more than it should instead of the GPU
02:23.37kenlyricwell, those things do different things.
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02:23.45kenlyricand wow needs both.
02:26.17jscinozyes but, when im running at ~10fps, cpu usage at 100% yet my GPU is only 1C above idle that says something is wrong
02:26.26exor|wowhaha, funny recount bug :D
02:26.27jscinozas if wow is trying to use software rendering for a lot of things
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02:26.46exor|wowso our tree druid topped damage metersd for a fight
02:26.47kenlyricwow always should run at 100% cpu usage when it's in the foreground.
02:26.51exor|wowat 1mil Damage
02:27.37kenlyricI use to think it was a problem too, but apparently this is by design.
02:28.11kenlyricit should only be taking up idle processor time
02:28.58exor|wowwith WoW running, I get 100% GPU usage, 47% CPU usage
02:29.06exor|wowand this is with it compressing
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02:31.41Nefarionwoo, finally finished my addon: Nefpad
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02:32.19kenlyricfeminine hygiene for WoW?
02:32.37Nefarionlol
02:32.40kenlyricyeah, that's right. I pulled out a dilbert TV show joke
02:32.44Nefarionsimple notepad addon
02:32.58Nefarioni got tired of all the fuss or ugly gui of the others available
02:33.39Ellipsis--wait what?
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02:33.45Ellipsis--I totally missed something
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02:34.14Nefarionyou talking about what I said?
02:35.29Ellipsis--[6:31:34 pm] <kenlyric> feminine hygiene for WoW?
02:35.41kenlyricin response to Nefpad
02:36.08kenlyricit requires knowledge of the dilbert TV show to process correctly.
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02:41.42CIA-903rabbit * r59961 10NRT/NRT.lua:
02:41.42CIA-9NRT:
02:41.42CIA-9<PROTECTED>
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02:47.34CIA-903ckknight * r59962 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - fix the addon versioning system to handle LibStub libraries properly
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02:57.00CIA-903cwdg * r59963 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:
02:57.00CIA-9LibBabble-Spell-3.0:
02:57.00CIA-9-update zhCN data
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02:59.47ckknightharldephin: no hogging
03:01.29harldephin:p
03:03.28CIA-903cwdg * r59964 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua:
03:03.29CIA-9LibDogTag-2.0:
03:03.29CIA-9update zhCN LOCAL.
03:05.20CIA-903cwdg * r59965 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua:
03:05.21CIA-9LibParser-4.0:
03:05.21CIA-9update zhCN & zhTW local
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03:10.01CIA-9LibAvionAddin-1.0:
03:10.01CIA-9add zhCN local
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03:11.25potemkinits better to setscript in lua than in xml because xml has to call global functions if its calling a function, right?
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03:13.57Arrowmasterckknight: want to make a change to acecomm-2.0 for me
03:14.06ckknight_what's that?
03:14.15Arrowmasterversion = IsAddOnLoaded(addon) and true or false
03:14.33Arrowmasterchange that so that if the addon exists but isnt loaded it doesnt send false
03:15.02Arrowmasterline 2269
03:15.04ckknight_but it's designed to send false in that case...
03:15.40ckknight_maybe I'm misunderstanding
03:15.58Arrowmasterif the addon isnt loaded but has a version set in the toc it sends the version and " (Off)"
03:16.09ckknight_right
03:16.19Arrowmasterso if it exists but isnt loaded
03:16.24Arrowmasterlike with lod modules
03:16.28ckknight_right.
03:16.44Arrowmasterlike with BigWigs_NajAssist that dont have a version in the toc
03:16.45ckknight_pastie a patch of what it should be or something
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03:17.32Arrowmasterit sends false and i cant tell the difference between who i need to bitch at to go download or who just for somereason it hasnt loaded for
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03:22.46Kivin!ap 1500
03:22.46ThraeBotKivin: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 261, 3v3: 302, 5v5: 344
03:22.55Kivin!ap 1600
03:22.55ThraeBotKivin: Arena points from a rating of 1600 is, 2v2: 353, 3v3: 409, 5v5: 465
03:23.01Kivin!ap 1700
03:23.02ThraeBotKivin: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 461, 3v3: 534, 5v5: 607
03:23.08Kivin!ap 2000
03:23.09ThraeBotSorry Kivin, you must wait 8 seconds before making another request.
03:23.20CIA-903ag 07Ace3 * r59967 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: hide party in raid, show 5 man raid as party now works
03:23.22Kivin!ap 2000
03:23.22ThraeBotKivin: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054
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03:41.24Arrowmasterckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/81647
03:42.46CIA-903ckknight * r59968 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (13 files in 2 dirs): LibDogTag-2.0 - move most tag calculation data into their respective modules instead of staying in the core.
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03:50.27CIA-9LibDogTag-2.0:
03:50.27CIA-9- zhCN typo fix
03:50.27CIA-9- koKR Update
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03:53.41jscinozis there a lightweight, possibly ace-based alternative to supermacro?
03:55.44Arrowmasteri think i may have accidently converted my client to an EU one
03:56.14Arrowmastermy old 2.0.0 to 2.0.3 patch didnt work because it didnt have enGB info
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04:02.53kenlyricgratz?
04:04.56XyphorPitbull fixed again?
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04:23.25Kivinckknight_: ing
04:23.28Kivinping*
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04:26.23Kivinckknight: ping?
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04:36.38NightHawkTheSaneKivin: let me guess, dogtag errors? :P
04:37.15KivinNightHawkTheSane: I put DogTag, Pitbull, and others on ignore days ago
04:37.32Kivinblissful, blissful, out of date versions
04:37.43NightHawkTheSaneprobably a good idea
04:37.57NightHawkTheSanealthough, the errors in the version i just got werent too bad. i could fix them myself
04:37.57KivinI'm actually being challenged by config tables in rock config
04:38.10NightHawkTheSaneahh, can't help there, sorry :\
04:38.33KivinWish there was a way [[maybe there is and i'm too inept to figure it out]] to have group children share a property
04:38.42Kivinother than 'get' or 'set
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04:39.29Kivinckknight_: ping
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04:41.03ckknight_Kivin: pong
04:41.42Kivinckknight: mind looking at a bit of my rock config table and sharing some wisdom?
04:42.00ckknightsure
04:42.09Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81649
04:42.33Kivinthe passValue is the same on every arg
04:42.50Kivincan i not raise the passValue into the group itself somehow and have it shared across all args?
04:42.52ckknightchild_passValue = barTable
04:43.00ckknight;-)
04:43.05ckknightmakes sense, no?
04:43.06Kivincould've sworn i tried that and it was nil.  weird.
04:43.16ckknightit should work, to my knowledge
04:43.20Kivinis child_name, child_desc, available too?
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04:43.40ckknightchild_everything is available
04:43.44Kivinokay
04:43.44ckknightand child_child_everything
04:43.47ckknightad nauseum
04:43.51Kivinthen I must be exceptionally incompetant
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04:43.58Kivinthanks for your time
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04:44.42CIA-9LibDogTag-2.0:
04:44.43CIA-9- Update locale koKR
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04:57.51Kivinckknight: Is there a field type i can place in a group that just gives the user feedback? Like a simple fontstring?
04:58.16ckknightstring
04:58.56Kivinleave it's name blank, put the message into it's get, and have a dummy function in set?
05:01.53Arrowmastersomebody send me a us wow.exe so i can run repair.exe
05:02.53Kivinhow odd is it to have a rogue tank the red beam of netherspite for at least one cycle?
05:03.31KivinArrowmaster: email?
05:07.04Arrowmasteri got one
05:07.09Kivink
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05:10.50ShadowedXinhuan: you know what would be nice, on the zone listing in routes where it says "You have 1 route(s) in <zone>" would be to let you quickly hide/show different routes
05:10.58Shadowedunless the goal was to only have people using one route at a time
05:11.24Xinhuanthat is an excellent idea
05:11.30Xinhuani will see if its doable
05:11.43ShadowedI'd find it hard to believe if it wasn't
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05:12.33Xinhuanit shouldn't be too hard, i just have to write the function that generates the option table for each zone
05:12.47Xinhuanthat is the tricky part pretty much
05:13.05KivinXinhuan finds something tricky? Lies.
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05:23.58Estilquick question to resto arena druids: Natural Shapeshifting worthwhile?
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05:30.29ShadowedEstil: yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
05:30.33Shadowedit's pretty much useful for any spec
05:30.38Shadowedno matter what
05:31.21NightHawkTheSanei wish i had more points in a feral build to pick it up >.>
05:32.24Estilroger that
05:32.40Estilthen is this the standard resto pvp druid build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zjZxG0oZVMIxcq0xst
05:35.46Estil(the loltree is for pve purpose)
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05:53.42NeoTronXinhuan: so routes seems to make really weird routes when adding new nodes (in clustered mode at least)
05:54.03Xinhuanoh?
05:54.07NeoTronI've gotten routes where they cross eachother in some weird fashion or where the take a large detour that clearly is not optimized
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05:54.30Xinhuanyeah inserting nodes doesn't do any optimization
05:54.38NeoTronimagine an X where the route is top left -> bottom right -> bottom left -> top right
05:54.57Xinhuanit just inserts at what it thinks is the best location locally
05:55.01NeoTronI suspect with clustering it gets a bit weird, if that's possibly the case?
05:55.06Xinhuanpossibly
05:55.11NeoTronI haven't tried / seen if the behavior is there w/o
05:55.13Xinhuani'll need screenshots to do anything about it
05:55.26Xinhuanwith a before/after SS
05:55.30NeoTronI'll take sshots if I see it again and can upload the lua file too
05:55.39Xinhuanuploading isn't necessary
05:55.43Xinhuanjust SSes
05:55.50NeoTronk
05:57.00NeoTronmy guess is if you do: uncluster, add note, cluster   the problem would go away
05:59.56Xinhuanyou can always do that manually
06:00.08Xinhuanbut it takes like a few seconds
06:00.15Xinhuanand you dont' really want to do that automatically
06:00.35Xinhuanyou can also just add note, uncluster, recluster
06:01.53NeoTronif it gets really wier I need to reoptimize
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06:03.43Xinhuanyah, that's the disadvantage of clustering
06:03.52Xinhuanbut optimization is far faster since there is less nodes
06:04.03Xinhuansay 196 instead of 657 nodes
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06:04.59NeoTronIt's pretty clear that clustering is the issue
06:05.09NeoTronit simply gets all weird combined with adding nodes :-/
06:06.02Xinhuani need a screenshot though
06:06.06Xinhuanbefore i can really do anything
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06:06.38Xinhuani can briefly describe how node insertin works though
06:06.57Xinhuanlets say you have a route with 170 travel points (nodes)
06:07.01Xinhuanand you try to insert a 171th
06:07.40Xinhuanwhat i do is, i calculate the length of the route at the 170 different possible insertion points
06:07.56Xinhuanand pick the insertion point that yields the shortest increase in distance
06:08.07Xinhuanthis is simple/trivial
06:08.17Xinhuannow when those 170 travel points is a clustered route
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06:08.35Xinhuanwhat i do is,
06:08.52Xinhuani repeat the same algorithm to find the best insertion point, lets say i determine this to be between node 140 and 141
06:09.03Xinhuanbefore i insert a new point there directly, if its a clustered route
06:09.07tinderboxanyone know if there's an addon that gives you more macros than the default 36?
06:09.18Xinhuani first check to see which node is nearer, 140 or 141, to the insertion point
06:09.39Xinhuanif 140 is nearer, i try to see if the new node can be "merged" into cluster 140
06:09.44Xinhuanif it can, i do it.
06:09.52Xinhuanif it can't, i try to merge it into cluster 141
06:10.12Xinhuanif it can, i do it, if it can't, then i insert the new node as a new cluster by itself between 140 and 141
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06:10.40Xinhuangot it?
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06:11.57Xinhuanwhat you can do to test this behavior: when you find a node, delete it from your map
06:12.00Xinhuanthen harvest that new node
06:12.23Xinhuanbecause everytime you harvest a node, it is really performing a "node delete" followed by a "node insert"
06:12.29Xinhuanit doesn't "move" the existing node
06:12.38Xinhuana node delete can obviously change the route
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06:17.20Xinhuanam i clear?
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06:21.24NeoTronyeah
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06:21.46NeoTronso am I right that you delete, then add?
06:25.55CIA-9037destiny * r59980 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua:
06:25.55CIA-9BigWigs:
06:25.55CIA-9- Hyjal/HyjalSummit: koKR update :)
06:28.00Xinhuanyes
06:29.04NeoTronso likely the problem would be fixed by... adding then deleting
06:29.12NeoTronor evern better not changing anything at all for know nodes
06:29.20NeoTronI don't need to readd it because it moved 4 feet
06:29.57NeoTronif node = same type and ~= same location = NOOP
06:30.37Xinhuanthat's not a Routes issue
06:30.48XinhuanRoutes only responds to whatever carto/gatherer/gathermate tells it
06:31.03NeoTronunderstood
06:31.07NeoTronit's a gathermate issue
06:31.13Xinhuanin any case, Gathermate itself doesn't send the same node twice
06:31.23NeoTronand cart_mining, at least, adds the same thing over and over again on mining too
06:31.32Xinhuangathermate doesn't
06:31.36Xinhuanit only does it the first time
06:31.38NeoTronthat's fine
06:31.47NeoTronbut if I am 1 yrd to the left it resends it yes?
06:31.48Xinhuanif your (x,y) didn't change, it doesn't add the 2nd time
06:31.56Xinhuanif its off by 0.01, it'll add
06:31.59Xinhuandelete then add
06:32.15Xinhuanto be more specific, it does a radius delete
06:32.17Xinhuanof all nearby nodes
06:32.55NeoTronif nodetype == same and distance < X it should just leave it
06:33.03tinderboxis it possible using lua to tell (if the action chain started by the user activating an actionbar button) which bar/button they used?
06:33.35NeoTronin this case, on edge-route spots the current behavior will make routes confused
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06:36.06Xinhuanlike i said, i still need to see a specific example of before-after screenshots
06:36.14Xinhuanbefore i can determine what to do
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06:39.09Zhinjiostraw poll: what systems are people using for raid signups? Web based? in game? specific tools?
06:39.38Zhinjioapparently, we've reach the practical maximum size of people to use GC without corruption, and I need to swtich to something else
06:39.49Zhinjioand I'm pissed about it.
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06:40.17Zhinjioits frustrating as fuck that Blizz implements a fucking lame voice chat and can't even manage an ingame event calendar for guilds.
06:40.37Xinhuanwe simply invite whoever is onlien into the raid, and let the class leaders sort out who's sitting out that night
06:40.44Xinhuanno calander or signups needed
06:40.53tinderboxsame
06:40.58tinderbox<PROTECTED>
06:41.16tinderbox(if you use ora2)
06:41.20Zhinjiowe do
06:41.40tinderboxwe do the same except we dont really have class leaders
06:41.47Zhinjiodon't think that can work for 3 simultaneous kara/za runs. Might work for Gruuls/ssc/etc though
06:41.50tinderboxso i just sit people out based on whether or not they've given me money recently
06:42.17Zhinjioand people want/need to be able to make plans.
06:42.29Zhinjiobuts its a valid suggestion.
06:42.33Zhinjioanyone else?
06:42.34tinderboxyeah multiple 10 mans is weird
06:42.38tinderboxGC has always kinda sucked anyway
06:42.43tinderboxbuggy as hell, at least in my experience
06:43.02Xinhuanthen perhaps you should sort out and promote class leaders
06:43.08Xinhuanit'll lead to happier people
06:43.10Zhinjioit was working fine up until we absorbed another 15 raiders a few weeks ago
06:43.17Xinhuanthat can discuss loot among themselves
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06:45.28tinderbox*shrug* our system has worked for us since EQ
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06:53.10Orionshockok so i have an english client, how to get like the french version?
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08:10.39Laric_GEM works a heck of alot better than GC imo
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08:12.01[SW]Dodgeanyone know if there is a way to cancle a macro if GCD is not ready?
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08:13.34[SW]Dodgei want a macro like /cancleform /use <any healpot> /cast Dire Bear Form(Shapeshift)
08:13.49[SW]Dodgebut if gcd is not ready its BAD :/
08:14.29Xinhuannope
08:14.29Xinhuanyou cannot choose to cast a spell based on cooldowns
08:16.20[SW]Dodge*cry*
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08:40.20Xinhuani hate afternoons.
08:40.28Xinhuanall the US and EU ppl are all asleep
08:40.43[SW]Dodgemhm
08:40.56[SW]Dodgei'm not asleep (eu) :P
08:41.18mykxanybody here real hardware savy?
08:41.34Xinhuanprobably some are
08:42.02mykxI recently got my computer back from the shop and although it is running very fast and there's no problems my hard-drive is making very loud grinding sounds and I'm confused as to why. it's a raptor hd and appears to be running fast so what could the problem be?
08:42.27Cheadsit will die soon
08:43.08mykxwell that's no good
08:43.15Xinhuanharddisks making loud grinding noises is a sign that their lifespam is ending soon
08:43.19Xinhuanerrr lifespan
08:43.43mykxI just bought it :\ well ok ill turn off the pc and phone the shop I guess
08:44.03Xinhuanopen up the computer and really make sure its the harddisk?
08:44.25mykxyeah I did, it's the hard disk. it's also hot as hell but dunno if thats normal
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08:44.45Xinhuanharddisks being hot is normal
08:44.53Xinhuanits after all, spinning 7200 rpm
08:45.05Xinhuanor 120 per sec
08:45.10Funkeh`yo
08:45.14Xinhuanhi
08:45.16mykxheh ok well the loud grinding sounds arent normal so I'm gonna have to see whats up
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08:47.49[SW]Dodgemhm... void crystal ~25g large prismatic ~25g ... 2.4 they'll add an recipie to split a void into 2 large prismatic... it would be a 'good' idea to get some void until they are cheap ?^^
08:48.44[SW]Dodges/until/while/
08:49.57Diaoi suppose yea
08:50.14Diaoalthough on my server it's more like void crystal 15-20g and prismatic 25-30
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08:50.19Xinhuanwell 200 other ppl have the same idea as you
08:50.26Xinhuanso void pricing has already doubled on alliance BR
08:50.29syerenckknight_, are you here :)?
08:50.51[SW]Dodgelarge prismatics was some weeks ago at 30-40g
08:51.07Diaohmm
08:51.25Diaoour guild bank (which only i and officers can withdraw from for enchanting mats) has like 400 void crystals lol
08:51.27Xinhuanalso you could technically sell LPS now
08:51.31Xinhuansince their price will drop
08:51.36Diaostupid 1 day cooldown
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08:51.38Fisker-<PROTECTED>
08:51.48syerenckknight :P?
08:51.52Diaoit'll take weeks to convert our crystals into shards
08:52.18Fisker-void crystals were usually around 5-10g yesterday
08:52.22Fisker-now they're atleast 20g
08:52.55Fisker-people buying it because they think it'll be "omg 20g for 80g" (Our shards are worth 40g usually) and buys a lot of them because 20*20 = 80*20
08:53.17[SW]DodgeDiao: ~57 weeks
08:53.31[SW]Dodgeif 1 enchanter tries to do it
08:53.42[SW]Dodge24hrs cooldown
08:55.35Xinhuanthere are lots of enchanters heh
08:55.43Xinhuanprice will still balance out in the end
08:56.23syerenHmm, is it possible to make Dog Tags check for a debuff :P?
08:56.38syerenSo I could create a custom tag saying "Shield Available" for example on a unit frame in Pitbull ;p
08:56.48[SW]Dodgeyea, but the most people i know read patchnotes or mmo-champion for the blueposts so they dont know about it :P
08:57.06[SW]Dodgeand if you are fast enough you can make profit^
08:57.29Fisker-you can already easily make a profit
08:57.37Fisker-i don't think that profit will be any bigger with 2.4
08:57.51Fisker-infact i think now is the best and only time you'll be able to get a good profit
08:58.07Fisker-atleast what our server is concerned
08:59.39syerenWTB ckknight :(
09:00.42TNSelol
09:00.45Xinhuanfor?
09:00.49TNSeI've made over 20 LPS over last few days
09:00.58TNSewithout any cooldowns :P
09:01.05TNSe<3 arcanoweave bracers
09:02.05TNSekill humanoid mob (or undead), loot cloth, loot greens, disenchant greens, make cloth into netherweave bracers, diss bracers, when you have enough arcane dust, apply to make arcanoweave bracers, diss
09:02.21syerenXinhuan, I want to see if it is possible to make a DogTag report something.
09:02.28syerenMainly if a target has Weakened Soul.
09:02.28Xinhuanoh
09:02.37syerenSeems as he refuses to do anything with the Aura system -_-
09:02.57Fisker-easier to buy it from auction house TNSe
09:03.11TNSenot when you are already levelling up alts :P
09:03.31Fisker-true
09:03.32Xinhuandoes HasAura() work?
09:03.36Xinhuanor does that only work on buffs
09:03.44Fisker-i crashed the large prismatic shard market with that
09:03.48Fisker-usually LSP's were at 40g
09:03.51TNSeFisker-, those 20 shards are like only from levelling my hunter 60-70
09:03.59Fisker-then i made like 100 arcanoweave bracers
09:04.01Fisker-:D
09:04.03TNSehaha
09:04.11Fisker-Now they're 28-30G
09:04.19Fisker-but i got mine sold before it went under 35G
09:04.23TNSesmall server?
09:04.30Fisker-Don't know
09:04.35Fisker-we've begun to get queues again
09:04.43TNSelarger than mine then
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09:05.06TNSeour lps cost <29g atm
09:07.06TNSe3*2=6 for netherweave cloth, 1.5*12=18 for dust, 1g thread = 25g to make one prism from AH mats
09:08.10Fisker-yup
09:08.33TNSeif they were overpriced for 40g I'd be all over it .P
09:08.40TNSebut atm theres 5 pages of <35g shards out
09:08.44TNSestarting at 29g
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09:10.47Fisker-he has a mac, get him!
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09:11.18TNSeI thought they died out
09:11.20TNSehorribly.
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09:29.58CIA-903ammo 07Beta * r59982 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua:
09:29.58CIA-9Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0:
09:29.58CIA-9- Fix bug with disabling an addon from it's onenable, and make iterateaddonstatuses work for disabled addons.
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09:53.23CIA-903ammo 07Ace3 * r59983 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: better positioning for the group seperator bar, still probably shitty workings
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10:14.51Funkeh`http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=61387
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10:28.42CIA-903ammo 07Ace3 * r59984 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: Readycheck results now has a separator bar between group 1-5 and 6-8.
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10:30.07smoke_hey sorry guys, i'd pm the guy on the forums but registration is closed on ej, this guy has this mod i need it shows the debuffs of the target..
10:30.28[Ammo]you mean Demon ?
10:30.30smoke_screen shot is http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t16276-post_your_interface/p98/ posted by Sykra, in combat its the debuffs with the timers onbottom, anyone know the name of it? (sorry)
10:30.36[Ammo]oh timers..
10:30.37[Ammo]hmm
10:30.47smoke_yeah.. kinda like buffalo2
10:30.52smoke_but different
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10:32.17syerenThat's a modified DoTTimer.
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10:33.05smoke_dottimer modified? kk ill look into it then
10:33.59smoke_modified as in, just configured, or did they modify the lua?
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10:36.39ANGhello, im searching for an mortal strike timer for my party.
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10:38.28smoke_does darkcandy only work for warlocks?
10:39.53[SW]Dodgeis tehre an addon to show cooldowns like this http://dodgex.servegame.com/blub.jpg
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10:42.09the_moeshort question: is there an addon which can activate all timerbar addon? like bigwigs, quartz, classtimer etc. ?
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10:42.33the_moefor ui testing
10:42.39Funkeh`It depends on what you are trying to achieve, and what you mean by activate.
10:42.45Funkeh`Show the frames?
10:42.50Grumthe_moe: you want nShakeDown
10:43.04Grumit does it for a lot of addons
10:43.08the_moeexactly, forgotten the name
10:43.28the_moethank you very much
10:43.53the_moehave a nice weekend, bye
10:46.44Xinhuanlua> t = {} print(pairs(t)) print(pairs(t))
10:46.44lua_botXinhuan: function: 0x806b9e8, {  } (#1), nil, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: #1>, nil
10:48.03Xinhuanlua> t = {"a", "b", "c"} for k, v in pairs(t) do for k2, v2 in pairs(t) do print(v..v2) end end
10:48.04lua_botXinhuan: aa, ab, ac, ba, bb, bc, ca, cb, cc
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10:50.17Xinhuanlua> t = {"a", "b", "c"} print(pairs(t)) for k, v in pairs(t) do for k2, v2 in pairs(t) do print(v..v2) print(pairs(t)) end end
10:50.17lua_botXinhuan: function: 0x806b9e8, { "a", "b", "c" } (#1), nil, aa, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: #1>, nil, ab, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: #1>, nil, ac, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: #1>, nil, ba, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: #1>, nil, bb, function: 0x806b9e8, <table: ... (result truncated)
10:50.22Xinhuanhmm
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10:57.35CIA-903rabbit * r59985 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Hide whispers processed by NRT when taking attendance.
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11:10.21Pkekyo|recommended professions for a shammy?
11:11.04ramozLW
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11:11.57Pkekyo|meh, I'd have to level another char as a miner then :/
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11:15.04[SW]Dodgeis tehre an addon to show cooldowns like this http://dodgex.servegame.com/blub.jpg ?
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11:26.51Xinhuan~pil
11:27.00purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
11:30.30CIA-903nevcairiel * r59986 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: fix iterators to work with passed values from for rather then keeping it in upvalues
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11:34.15Fisker-http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=309900&st=0&#entry1057461665 <-/facepalm
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11:38.24Fisker-mac, get him, etc
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11:44.45Fisker-~pik
11:44.47purlpik is probably the Pseudo-Image Kit, a way to build Debian CD images without caning the main servers - see cdimage.debian.org
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11:52.05Orionshockurg, how do you invoke Babble libs?
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11:55.45CIA-903kunda * r59987 10ClosetGnome_HelmNCloak/ClosetGnome_HelmNCloak.lua: ClosetGnome_HelmNCloak: added set check -> no set = no menu
11:55.54CIA-903nevcairiel * r59988 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: the iterators do not use upvalues anymore, so you can nest them.(not that nesting a iterator on a full node db is good for performance...)
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11:59.53Kirkburn12 commits to go :P
12:00.23nevcairielso do some work already!
12:02.16cncfanaticslua>tostring(nil);
12:02.16lua_botcncfanatics: nil,
12:02.17QuezacoltHow long does it usually take to get an SVN account? I've signed the SVN Rules talk page and emailed the Ace admins
12:03.00nevcairielQuezacolt: when?
12:03.07nevcairielit can take a few days when they're busy
12:03.22Quezacoltemailed them just as I typed that last message
12:04.00nevcairielheh
12:04.00nevcairieli guess they're still sleeping
12:04.32QuezacoltMight go to sleep as well then XD
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12:08.28CIA-903rabbit * r59989 10NRT/NRT.lua:
12:08.28CIA-9NRT:
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12:09.33CIA-903bethink * r59990 10CrossRealm/ (6 files):
12:09.33CIA-9CrossRealm:
12:09.33CIA-9- Added an opposite faction trading report
12:09.34CIA-9- Added FuBar support
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12:15.24[SW]Dodgei have a simple test addon (try to learn^^) but it wont work *cry* code: http://rafb.net/p/CyCVR867.html
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12:15.36[SW]Dodgeand i have all ace3 libs http://dodgex.servegame.com/ace3.jpg
12:16.24CIA-903chuanhsing * r59991 10Proximo/locals/localization-zhTW.lua: Proximo: update zhTW
12:18.36nevcairielname of the addon dir the same as the .toc file?
12:18.52[SW]Dodgeyea
12:18.59nevcairielany errors?
12:19.04[SW]Dodgenope
12:19.04nevcairieloh
12:19.14nevcairielregisterchatcommand, no / in the command
12:19.28nevcairieluse "nx" and it'll add the /
12:19.33[SW]Dodgeah lol :(
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12:20.06[SW]Dodgety ~~
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12:27.03Fisker-btw hai [Ammo] ?
12:27.31sbora3 already usable? :p
12:29.21Fisker-dunno
12:29.32Fisker-want to ask him why ct_ra support was dropped :P
12:30.55starlonwha
12:31.07sbhmmm
12:31.26sbbecause you are more flexible w/o that support?
12:31.38Arrowmasterand because its not like anybody actually used ct_ra anymore
12:31.51KirkburnI wonder if ClearFont2 still taints
12:32.06sband not restricted to ctra protocols (items, checks, cooldowns)
12:32.09Arrowmasterhell the ct_ra support is whats keeping ora2 from having a reagent check with correct reagents
12:32.17Dottedwho uses CF its obviously shit, and made by a nub
12:32.24sbhehe yes - because ctra is not localized :/
12:32.28Arrowmasterover a year and it still hasnt been updated to the new seeds
12:32.47KirkburnDotted, someone get out of the bed on the wrong side this morning, sweetie? :P
12:32.54sbyou cant check for "super mana potion" if you have players with mixed - german and english client
12:32.56Arrowmasteror berries or whichever it is
12:33.08Dottedno i just felt like trolling :D
12:33.21Kirkburnobvious troll is obvious
12:33.25Dottedindeed
12:35.47CIA-903next96 * r59992 10MobileVault/ (Locales/Locale-koKR.lua MobileVault.toc):
12:35.47CIA-9MobileVault:
12:35.47CIA-9- Add locale koKR
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12:37.19WobinWhat was that site that you could build your characters equipment and swap stuff in and out and see changes in dps etc?
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12:38.01Fisker-qhttp://www.warcrafter.net/ ?
12:38.05Fisker-http://www.warcrafter.net/ *
12:38.15Xinhuanwarcrafter.net, wowdigger.com, ctprofiles.net
12:38.20Xinhuanwowequip (addon)
12:38.21Xinhuan:)
12:40.30TNSeanyone here play hunter and have noticed that killcommand sometimes gets stuck after 2.3.2?
12:42.37TNSeseems to happen if I use killcommand 0.5s before autoshot gets fired
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12:44.49CIA-903chuanhsing * r59993 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:
12:44.49CIA-9Recount:
12:44.49CIA-9- update zhTW
12:45.01morthmm haven't seen a problem with my hunter and killcommand
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12:48.02vithosTNSe: my macro has been getting stuck, where my player stops autoshotting
12:48.32vithosit animates pulling the arrow back but never fires
12:48.41TNSeyes
12:48.51TNSeyou stop autoshotting
12:48.53TNSeand KC is stuck
12:48.58TNSeyou cannot press escape
12:49.01TNSeyou cannot feed pet
12:49.06TNSeyou cannot target yourself with bandage
12:49.34TNSeand I am pretty sure it started after 2.3.2
12:50.13TNSeirony is, people with >35% crit or people who have a macro they spam permanently wont notice it
12:50.21TNSebut those who time shots manually get it all the time
12:50.55WobinFisker-: That's the one, thanks =)
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12:52.34vithosi have a macro i spam permanently
12:52.36vithosand it happens to me
12:52.47vithoshappened just tonight
12:52.55CIA-903elsia * r59994 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua):
12:52.55CIA-9Recount:
12:52.56CIA-9- Fixed a problem with sync enabling/disabling.
12:52.58vithosand has happened maybe 3 other times since the patch
12:53.05[SW]Dodgeis there a page where spellids are listed?
12:53.32Arrowmasterspellids?
12:53.35Arrowmasterwowhead has them
12:53.43Arrowmasterbut i dont think theres a listing of all of them
12:53.56Arrowmasterbut spellids arent very useful at all though
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13:00.09TNSevithos, hrm, I think its related to the 'fix' blizzard made for instants 0.5 before auto
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13:01.15TNSecan you PM me the macro you use so I can see if we both have some kind of similarity :P
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13:03.16vithosi use two, both are spammed constantly (one for pet stuff and one for shots).  i'll pastey them
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13:05.42vithoshttp://pastey.net/81666 the shot one is always pressed right before the pet one
13:08.25TNSeyeah, thats more or less teh same as me
13:08.33TNSeexcept I have kill command just before steady
13:08.54TNSeand I time shots instead of using reset :P
13:09.20vithosyou don't spam it?
13:09.37vithosthe reset doesn't really do much
13:09.44vithosunless you stop hitting it
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13:11.32TNSeno, I dont spam, its not how I like to play :P
13:11.59vithoswhat's the point of using /castsequence at all then?
13:12.53TNSedont use castsequence :P
13:13.05TNSeI just have /cast kill command /cast steady shot in same macro
13:13.08vithosoh
13:13.52TNSeheh
13:13.57vithoslol, i thought you were hitting it once for the steady and once for the auto or something
13:14.02vithosnevermind :D
13:14.12TNSebut when you get heroism, quick shot and drums of battle, steady shots become annoying :P
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13:15.11vithosyeah, when i see my swing timer get too low i interject instants
13:15.56vithosdragonspine trophy, quick shots, heroism, passive haste gear.. it can get pretty crazy
13:16.19TNSeya
13:16.46TNSebut atleast you get the feeling you are pew-pew'ing .P
13:17.00TNSeand you start wondering if 5 points in arcane shot would be so bad :P
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13:23.24Reclusewell, i dunno what to think of this johnny depp musical 'sweeny todd' - very strange feeling watching that
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13:43.50ThorgardRecluse, it was sort of entertaining, at least.
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13:50.59CIA-9- Fixed typo.
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14:32.18Egresthi
14:33.08Egrestis there anyway to separate Party and Party pets in pitbull.
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14:33.19EgrestWhenever I change the width of Party pets so does the Party frame
14:34.17Egrestanyone?
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14:51.44HjalteEgrest, yes there is.
14:52.22Egres1How do I do that?
14:52.50HjalteYou have both Party and Party Pets activated and you can move them individually, yes?
14:53.10Egres1yep.
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14:57.15HjalteAre you sure, that you are configuring the width of the frame in the right place? - I have no problems.
14:57.36Egrestothers->size->width?
14:58.32HjalteYes, in the party pet menu?
14:58.45Egrestyea
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14:59.57CIA-9DrDamage:
14:59.59CIA-9- Fixed error in shaman.lua
15:00.09CIA-903kagaro 07Ace3 * r60003 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added slash command
15:00.15HjalteEgrest: And you're using a fully updated setup?
15:01.07Fisker-oh u kagaro
15:01.12Fisker-you got 60000 GEC
15:01.19Fisker-it was fail :<
15:01.28kagaroheh
15:01.54Egresthmm, weird.
15:02.01CIA-903cryect * r60007 10Recount/GUI_Config.lua:
15:02.01CIA-9Recount:
15:02.01CIA-9- Fixes the lines drawn on the config screen to be associated correctly with "Other Windows" for coloring (so will change colors when the "Other Windows" colors are changed now)
15:02.04EgrestThings are ok after a /console reloadui.
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15:02.27EgrestThnaks Hjalte!
15:02.39HjalteNo problem :P
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15:10.20Knaledgeso with an SVN client
15:10.33Knaledgeis there any way to have it tell me what path is missing upon update?
15:10.47Knaledgesvn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default'
15:10.48Knaledgesvn: Target path does not exist
15:11.09KnaledgeI get that a few times every time I run my update script - is there any way to have that messaege be a bit more descriptive?
15:11.17KnaledgeI'd like to know what path doesn't exist
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15:17.02Kirkburnbugger, I missed 60000!
15:17.05Poul|RaiderAnyone good at writing Triggers, for MS SQL 2005. Cant get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54479/ to work, seams like it use some other syntax: (
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15:18.33CIA-9ClearFont2:
15:18.33CIA-9* Updated for 2.2 and 2.3 changes
15:18.33CIA-9* Uncommented the stuff that once tainted. Report if the problems come back!
15:18.48Kirkburn^ only 6+ months since my last update :P
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15:21.56JoshBorkeupdates are over-rated kirk
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15:23.33Kirkburnhehe
15:23.54KirkburnI have no idea when I last updated the UI sites though
15:24.39Xinhuanoh hey we broke 60k commits
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15:25.30KirkburnSomeone should make a news post
15:25.43vithosmod get is fail get, imo
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15:25.56JoshBorkewait until 100k commits imo
15:26.00Kirkburnlol
15:26.16vithosand vith is henceforth banned from making puns
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15:44.14CIA-9ItemPriceTooltip:
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15:55.25CIA-9Moolah:
15:55.25CIA-9- added a field for dataVersion, for handling future changes
15:55.25CIA-9- changed data format for event data. Now it saves each known character's data on an event, along with an indicator of whose event it is.
15:55.29CIA-903cryect * r60014 10Recount/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:55.29CIA-9Recount:
15:55.29CIA-9- Adds tracking of network data by player & prefix to better determine sync data reduction (might be removed in the future)
15:58.54dylanmCryect back in action!
15:59.05Cryectkinda
15:59.25Cryectcan I say I hate WoW forcing me to reloadui to see my changes
15:59.44Cryectgot so used to the stuff I'm working on being autorecompiled when I save my script files
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16:01.56SroshIt's unfortunately a necessary evil.
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16:02.49JoshBorkecan i say you're spoiled?
16:03.53Cryectits not necessary at all
16:04.03Cryectits only necessary under certain situations
16:04.11Cryectand if you are programming you can do those when needed
16:05.01Cryect(when certain init type stuff needs to be redone that is which isn't normally)
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16:30.21xyugong xi fa cai
16:30.34Amadeoni hao
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16:32.37Amadeodomo arigato mr roboto
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16:40.16Amadeoyay, new star wars game coming looks good :D
16:41.15charonckknight_: may i suggest the following change to pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/81669
16:41.28charonit enables the same healthbar coloring for "mouseover" as for "target" etc
16:41.36charonsince mouseover is essentially another target frame
16:42.05charonif that's fine with you, i could also commit it to svn directly
16:42.29ckknight_charon: patch looks fine, please commit
16:42.36charongreat, thanks
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16:58.32sbhmm Cryect
16:59.39sbdo you know why recount dps differs that much from other damage meters? (violation, assessment, swstats, ..)
17:00.08Ellipsis`the way it measures time
17:00.18sbhmm yes
17:06.21ramozalso
17:06.56ramozviolation gives the person recording a extremly high dps since it only count the time you've used casting
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17:07.24Cryectnot sure how violation & assessment do time, but I recall SWStats wasn't extremely useful how it measured when I examined it
17:07.46CryectRecount gives a 3 second window around your actions
17:07.55[Ammo]violationg ives a 4 second window
17:09.06Cryectoh wait its 3.5 second checking the code
17:09.13Cryectanyways yeah thats where differences come up
17:09.48[Ammo]violation has a cooldown period of 4 seconds I should say and a minimum action time of 1.5
17:09.58[Ammo]so if yuo only cast 1 spell for 1500 damage -> 1000 dps
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17:10.16baer_moin.
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17:10.33CryectAnyways sb they should all be in the same approximate range for long durations
17:10.41[Ammo]indeed
17:10.46Cryectshould really only notice differences in like the less than 30 second periods
17:11.11sbhmmm
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17:11.38sbseems to be lower in bossfights (~50-100 dps)
17:12.11Cryectthe thing that I recall like always reports the highest DPS was WWS
17:12.23sbyes
17:12.27Cryectthe numbers WWS report always seem stupidly high
17:13.03Cryecttheir window range seems to be smaller than the average actual nuke casting time
17:13.14nevcairielwws only counts time when the player acts
17:13.35Cryectalso in Recount, DOTs will effect your time it considers you are doing something (not sure how many others do that)
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17:14.08Cryectwell all things in theory count the time when the player acts just how do you do that
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17:17.55CryectHere example http://wowwebstats.com/vxsdxehnmswqy?s=4176-4283&a=33#summary
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17:18.17CryectThis player supposedly was active for 10 seconds less than the fight length (98 seconds to 108 seconds)
17:18.46Cryectbut he was DPSIng from the very start to the very end
17:19.47Cryectthings like that in WWS result in much higher DPS than it should be
17:22.02Fisker-i thought sapphiron was still bugged
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17:23.39Cryecthow is he bugged?
17:23.52CryectI know they killed him in my guild last weekend
17:23.59Merl_DPS => Potential, Damage Done => Result
17:24.31vithosthe ice blocks used to not LoS the frost bomb thing
17:24.47Cryectheh well I'm guessing thats fixed since I know they killed him
17:24.49vithosactually they sometimes LoSed, sometimes didn't.  supposedly the left side worked
17:24.58nevcairielWWS just divides the dmg done by the dps time
17:25.00vithosso most people would get hit for 90k
17:25.38Cryectnevcairiel: except it undercalculates DPS time by a significant amount
17:25.52vithosWWS tracks personal dps time as well as encounter dps time
17:25.58nevcairieli would guess from first cast to last cast
17:25.59nevcairielbug shrug
17:26.01vithospersonal -> instant dps, encounter -> average dps
17:26.09vithosaverage dps is a hidden column by defalt
17:26.10nevcairiel*but
17:26.11vithosdefault
17:26.23CryectThe personal DPS time is lower than the player was active consistently
17:26.42Cryectits the lowest of the various damage tracking tools out there for that
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17:34.26Elsiaheya
17:35.28Elsiaanyone got a clue what this errors mean: http://ace.pastey.net/81671
17:36.02Elsiahmm actually...
17:38.37Elsiais there a chance that AceComm:IsCommRegistered() returns true even if none was registered before?
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17:42.16Chompersnice work on recount so far Elsia
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17:42.42Elsiathanks, currently broken though so I'm working on fixing it ;)
17:42.47Chompers;)
17:42.49vhaarrElsia: No, it should never do that.
17:43.24Elsiacryect committed some network related things, now I just need to figure out what exactly those are. but I also fixed some bugs, so I don't know which yet.
17:43.47vhaarrElsia: Why do you suspect that AceComm is wrong?
17:44.53ElsiaI don't
17:45.06Elsiai was just wondering if I used it correctly to avoid that error in a certain line of code
17:45.21vhaarrI can't tell if you used it correctly or not, you didn't say how you used it yet.
17:45.57Elsiacan Recount:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON",Recount_AddNetworkData) interfere with AceComm?
17:46.04vhaarrno
17:46.07Elsiahmm
17:47.35CIA-903pericles * r60019 10InventoryOnPar/ (IOP_PaperDoll.lua InventoryOnPar.lua):
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17:47.35CIA-9-
17:47.35CIA-9V9.20 - Small change to prevent IOP calculations taking place whilst in combat.
17:50.13[Liquidor]http://www.blizzard.co.uk/inblizz/fanart/images/screens/ss079.jpg
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17:51.07Chomperscomming indeed
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17:53.09CIA-903ckknight * r60020 10LibDruidMana-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:53.09CIA-9LibDruidMana-1.0 - initial commit
17:53.09CIA-9This LibStub library provides an easy mechanism to get the current and max mana for druids in their shapeshift form.
17:53.09CIA-9Note: it quits prematurely if player is not a Druid, so any addons that use it should take that into account.
17:54.50Elsiaphew updating ace2 fixed it...
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17:56.48charonanyone know why pitbull's mouseover frame sometimes "lags behind" in combination with grid, but mouseovertarget doesn't?
17:56.50Elsiapitbull seems kinda hosed though
17:57.01Elsiajust updated and get a few errors
17:58.25charonElsia: perhaps if you're more specific someone can help. though i've had a problem matching that description that was fixed simply by updating all addons.
17:59.03Stanzillamake sure you're using the latest version of LibDogTag-2.0
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18:02.42Elsianot yet on files I suppose... because I update and get the pitbull errors
18:02.55charoni'll elaborate: i use grid for raid and pitbull for everything else, and i have mouseover and mouseovertarget visible
18:03.21charonthen when i move the mouse over grid, mouseover shows the first unit fine
18:03.44charonbut when i move "inside grid" to another unit, only mouseovertarget updates, mouseover is stuck with the first one
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18:09.26CIA-903ckknight * r60021 10LibDruidMana-1.0/LibDruidMana-1.0.lua: LibDruidMana-1.0 - work properly when loaded post-PLAYER_LOGIN
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18:10.05kenlyricthere's a mouseover frame?
18:10.15charonin pitbull, yes there is
18:10.28charonit's an absolute godsend for me especially in MH when tanking waves
18:10.38kenlyricis this in combat or out of it?
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18:11.05charonwell obviously you can't click on the mouseover frame to do anything, it just shows that unit like any other
18:11.08charonbut it works at all times
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18:11.50kenlyricI had an issue with mouseover not working, but i can't remember what broke it or how I fixed it.
18:12.10kenlyricsomething to do with my extra mouse buttons
18:12.48IndustrialI'm currently very unaware of the addons roaming around on wowace.
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18:13.43IndustrialI'm looking for an addon that compares equipped items to the item hovered over. I'd like it if it would make a quick summary of stats eg; +30ap -15agi -2%crit.
18:13.49Industrialand nothing more then that
18:13.53Industrialdoes it exist?
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18:14.05Chompersdoesn't ratingsbuster do that?
18:14.09Industrial(I really dont feel like making it myself.)
18:14.13Industrial< Industrial> and nothing more then that
18:14.15kenlyricratingsbuster.
18:14.22mortratingbuster does
18:14.32kenlyricyou can only have it show a summary of the stat differences you care about
18:14.51kenlyricit doesn't have to bust a single a rating.
18:14.52Industrialdoesnt ratingbuster do alot mroe then that?
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18:15.14kenlyricit can but it doesn't have to.
18:15.18Industrialk
18:15.21JoshBorkeget it a try it
18:15.22Industrialhi!
18:15.24kenlyricyou need something a bit robust so it can properly compare stats
18:15.27IndustrialI will JoshBorke
18:15.34kenlyriclike calculating AP from agi, for instance
18:15.38Industrialyeah
18:16.01CIA-903ckknight * r60022 10PitBull/ (DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua embeds.xml libs/): PitBull_DruidManaBar - use LibDruidMana-1.0 instead of own implementation
18:16.16ckknighthrm, CIA's slow
18:16.17Ellipsis`I has 30 lines of code that crash WoW 100% of the time
18:16.40Industrial/run while true end
18:16.42Industrial:D?
18:16.48IndustrialI wonder... nah not gunna try
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18:17.19Ellipsis`no
18:17.25Ellipsis`it's a bug with editboxes
18:17.28Hobbyyou're missing a do =P
18:17.43Industrialoh wups
18:17.51Hobbyit does lock up wow
18:17.54Hobbyfuck
18:18.04Ellipsis`~fail Hobby
18:18.04purlHobby: Fail.
18:18.22Hobbyi was wndering if there's any event loop handling
18:18.28Hobbythere's not :(
18:18.36IndustrialI like it that there isnt
18:18.38Industrialsimple ftw
18:18.58Industrialand you can find new stuff to crash it all the time
18:19.09Industrialputting the minimap outside of the worldframe used to crash wow
18:19.10Industrial:P
18:19.51Ellipsis`well this is a particularly annoying one because it's triggered by rockconfig and now cowtip
18:19.56Egresthey guys, anyway to select buffs that will only show on Quartz's buff bar?
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18:34.11RaydenUnihave you guys seen priestlyendeavours post on WWS and healing focus?
18:35.33sbhuh?
18:35.50CIA-903crashmstr * r60025 10ASSBlock/ (. ASSBlock.lua ASSBlock.toc):
18:35.50CIA-9ASSBlock:
18:35.50CIA-9- initial commit, no errors but untested functionality
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18:36.40RaydenUnihttp://priestlyendeavors.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/a-touch-more-wws-clarification/
18:36.57RaydenUniAs for the focus, it is “the number of players who received 50% of the heals of this healer”. The focus ranges from 0.5 to half the number of players in the raid.
18:36.58RaydenUniA focus of 0.5 means the healer healed one and only one player.
18:36.58RaydenUniA focus of 1 means the healer spent 50% of its heals on a single player.
18:37.03RaydenUnithat seems really confusing
18:38.12dylanmWhat is Assblock
18:38.12dylanmOr is that obvious
18:38.20RaydenUnino idea
18:39.12Hjaltedylanm: Blocks shit?
18:39.20Hjalte:P
18:39.29sbThis is an add-on to block incoming guild/party/trade/duel requests (except for friends)
18:39.29sbmh
18:39.37dylanmHah.
18:39.53ThraeAssBlock -- Block people who are being an ass.
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18:40.17dylanmBut ASS is capitalized.
18:40.39dylanmMaybe a clever way to... oh nevermind who cares.
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18:40.54ThraeASSBlock -- All Stupid Spammer Block
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18:51.38RaydenUniso 50 deaths before no honor
18:51.43RaydenUniWSG will take forever now
18:53.03kenlyricit already does
18:53.09RaydenUnieven longer now
18:53.10kenlyricat least now we'll get honor.
18:53.16XyphorAnyone has some code sniplet to get current/max dura?
18:53.21RaydenUni50 deaths!
18:53.28RaydenUniwhen's the last time you died 50 times in one battleground?
18:53.29Ellipsis-anyone want to test this WoW crashing code for me?
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18:54.17HjalteEllipsis: Only if it doesn't crash my game!
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18:56.45XyphorDoesn't only crash you game Ellipsis- ^^
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18:59.08kenlyricanyone know of a mod that will show my energy in its own frame apart from the char frame? and maybe show it as a numerical value instead of a bar?
18:59.20kenlyricI know there's no ace one.
18:59.26RaydenUnii just use pitbull so i do'nt know
19:00.54RaydenUnii played my friend's rogue on his machine the other day while he was busy for a moment
19:00.58RaydenUninot having an energy tick sucks
19:02.02kenlyricI could make myself the focus and make a reduced focus frame I guess.
19:02.24kenlyricor, just finally learn to use grid as my player frame so i can do more interesting things with the player frame
19:02.27RaydenUniwhy do you need it?
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19:02.38AeyanI used EnergyWatch a long, long time ago
19:02.42AeyanI think it's still around
19:02.58AeyanNot really a full energy bar though, just a ticker
19:03.02RaydenUnido you not want to watch your health and energy amount when you are watcing the tick?
19:03.03kenlyricso I can see my energy without looking down.
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19:03.18kenlyricI want to see the energy amount, not the tick.
19:03.30RaydenUnioh
19:03.40Xyphorhmmm, nice idea
19:03.44RaydenUnijust make the energy bar really fat so you can see it easily
19:03.48kenlyricit'd be really cool to attach it to the aloft frame.
19:03.59RaydenUnidon't HUDs put your energy in the middle?
19:04.00kenlyricso I can see energy amount and combo points :)
19:04.10kenlyricyes. that's one solution
19:04.10RaydenUnii can't stand them, but it seems like it would work
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19:04.23RaydenUniyeah too bad pitbull doesn't let you specify custom frames
19:04.27RaydenUniyou could just copy the player frame
19:04.28CIA-903ckknight * r60028 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
19:04.28CIA-9LibDogTag-2.0 - fix an issue with addon finding
19:04.29CIA-9- make it so [0 / 0] => "0" instead of "NaN"
19:04.29CIA-9- add DruidMana module, uses LibDruidMana-1.0
19:05.54CIA-903xyphor * r60029 10PowerDisplay/ (pdOptions.lua pdUpdate.lua): PowerDisplay: Added support for actual Mana/Rage/Energy (all displayed as Mana currently)
19:05.56RaydenUnia friend had a good idea for managing mods over multiple computers
19:06.01RaydenUnithrow them into an svn repository
19:06.17CIA-903kagaro 07Ace3 * r60030 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPAnels: adjusted the font code
19:06.28Xyphorkenlyric, maybe that will do :)
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19:07.31kenlyrichmmmm...  I will have to try that out when I get upstairs. installing it now.
19:07.45kenlyricman, I wish I could remote desktop from my ipod.
19:07.51Xyphorken, not sure if WAU has it yet, can take up to 10 minutes
19:08.14RaydenUnitry what kenlyric ?
19:08.42kenlyricyeah, i'll update before I play... not at the wow computer right now.
19:08.43[dRaCo]any way to show the threat-1.0 version ingame?
19:08.51Hobbyare the zip builds on a 10 min cycle?, or just queue as soon as it's committed?
19:10.23AeyanHaha, Omen used to slam that on its window whether you liked it or not and could only remove it by editing the code =P
19:10.28AeyanNow you have to go look for it
19:10.44AntiarcIt used to because during alpha I wanted the version in error report screenshots :P
19:10.55AntiarcYou can still turn it on if you want.
19:11.03AeyanYeah, I understood the reason
19:11.06AeyanJust ironic, hehe
19:11.21AntiarcSkin options -> Show Version Number
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19:13.28RaydenUniit wouldn't be possible to intercept the screenshot command and insert the version number there would it?
19:14.54kenlyricuh.
19:14.57kenlyricI'd guess not
19:15.32RaydenUnii doubt it as well, but it could be interesting
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19:29.59CIA-903ckknight * r60033 10PitBull/ (DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): PitBull - remove texts from DruidManaBar module, use LibDogTag-2.0 instead.
19:29.59CIA-903ckknight * r60032 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Math.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - tweaks to Mult and Div
19:29.59CIA-903evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60031 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua:
19:29.59CIA-9- Added comments so I can remember what's going on
19:29.59CIA-9- Marked potential problem areas
19:30.28DottedFunkeh` BasicMinimap lacks embeds.xml and externals havent been set
19:30.43CIA-903xyphor * r60034 10PowerDisplay/ (pdOptions.lua pdUpdate.lua): PowerDisplay: Mana, Rage & Energy now displayed as what it actually is (drycoded)
19:30.52Funkeh`k
19:31.08Dottedwell atleast i dont get them :P
19:32.37Xyphorkenlyric: could you let me kow if it works please. I have no char with Rage or Energy to test it with
19:33.19XyphorAlthough I have no errors with my mana char :)
19:35.58Fisker-http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=310016&st=0&#entry1057462599 <-holy shit dodga
19:35.59Fisker-Dotted
19:36.00Fisker-holy shit
19:36.11dodganinja highlight! :D
19:36.46DottedFisker- whos that tard?
19:36.53Fisker-i don't know
19:37.15Dottedhow the hell do you mix up HTML and XHTML anyway?
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19:39.26kenlyric"Please update your Please update your settings" Xyphor
19:40.25kenlyricand I can't get a slashcommand to work.
19:41.17kenlyricshould it just be /powerdisplay
19:42.02kenlyricnvm, got it
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19:43.43Fisker-Dotted he didn't mix up HTML and XHTML
19:43.47Fisker-he mixed up HTML and XML
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19:44.52Dottedwell XHTML is XML, so
19:45.00Dottedbased on*
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19:45.06CIA-903xyphor * r60035 10PowerDisplay/ (pdFrame.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Added ability to remove damage type (set font size to 0)
19:45.11Dottedwhile html is SGML
19:45.25kenlyricXyphor: works perfectly.
19:45.30Dottedhad he said XHTML he would be right
19:45.48kenlyricbut how do I get to a config screen?
19:45.52Xyphorthanks kenlyric, only that error is a bit strange lol
19:45.53kenlyricI just went through the rock config.
19:46.31Xyphoryeah, works perfectly with rock
19:46.40XyphorThat's what I use
19:47.49kenlyricnow I need to memorize the energy costs of my abilities :)
19:48.07XyphorDoes it show Mana or Energy?
19:48.21kenlyricMana
19:48.30Xyphordarn
19:48.37CIA-903ckknight * r60036 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/ (6 files): LibDogTag-2.0 - change some PercentThing tags into [[CurThing / MaxThing * 100]:Round(1)]
19:48.44kenlyricso is there no other way to access configuration? no / command?
19:49.01Xyphorkenlyric: /powerd
19:49.57kenlyricstrange. I just set it to show 0 stats, and it says I have 1337 shadow resistance
19:50.16Xyphorhmm, that
19:50.20Xyphorthat's the default text
19:50.40kenlyricI set it to 1 and then back to 0 and it went away.
19:51.11Xyphorhardcoded: s1:SetText("1337 Shadow resistance");
19:51.19Xyphorto set a basic frame width
19:52.02XyphorI think you're one version behind btw :s
19:52.20XyphorI mixed up something and changed it
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19:53.19XyphorMana/Rage/Energy has been moved to a stat, updating will cause error. You were too fast installing it :p
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19:54.05kenlyricyeah, I did it before that last commit
19:54.57XyphorUpdate in a few minutes, redo settings (it's stat now, remember) and I hope it's set to what it actually is (Energy?)
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19:55.04CIA-903ckknight * r60037 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - optimization for internal expressions as numbers
19:56.05kagaroping EvilElvis
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19:57.00XyphorOK, back to what I was doing... Anyone has code sniplet for current/max Dura?
19:57.13Firelemminghi all
19:57.22XyphorHallo Lemming :)
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19:58.47Firelemmingbtw the other day people where talking about a rss feed from the blue post from wow, anybody got a link?
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19:59.48Xyphorhttp://blue.cardplace.com/rss/ maybe?
20:00.08Xyphor"I wrote a script to grab the official Blizzard posts from the World of Warcraft official forums. The collector runs every 30 minutes or so. Old blue posts will be moved to the Archives. Blue posts older than 35 days are deleted from the "Current Blue Posts" thread and can be found in the Archive section."
20:00.25Firelemmingah, coool
20:00.36Xyphorhttp://www.wowblues.com/ seems cool as well
20:00.39Firelemmingty xD
20:00.45kenlyricthere's another one too, and it seems to gather completely different blue wow posts.
20:00.46XyphorGoogle is my friend :)
20:00.56Xyphorone problem... you probably need wow-europe
20:01.37Firelemmingwell, i just see the latest patch notes that will be in 2.4
20:01.51Xyphorhttp://www.wowblues.com/eu/0102-24-patch-notes-2405447735.html
20:01.58Firelemmingyeah
20:02.16Xyphor"Players can now only carry 80 Conjured Manna Biscuits at a time" damn it!
20:02.54chiperwhy do you need more?
20:03.12Firelemmingwell imo the best change ever is the summoning change
20:03.18XyphorI take 200 in the morning and pvp all day. The slackers in BGs don't make it
20:03.20ckknight_which change is that?
20:03.37FirelemmingProvided the player meets the instance requirements, you'll be able to summon them in from anywhere in the world.[20] The summoning restriction has also been lifted from Netherstorm.
20:03.42ckknight_oh, right
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20:04.02Xyphor"New Fishing Daily Quests!" that nice :)
20:04.04Firelemmingthat is the best change ever
20:04.07Firelemmingnah
20:04.08Xyphoragreed
20:04.21XyphorI like fishing sometimes
20:04.29HjalteHave they said anything about summoning in ZA?
20:04.43Firelemmingnope, think that will still be a no go
20:04.43CIA-903gagorian * r60039 10DrDamage/Data/Warrior.lua:
20:04.43CIA-9DrDamage:
20:04.43CIA-9- Added improved sunder armor rage cost discount to devastate.
20:05.06Firelemmingbtw xyphor: cooking: New recipes will be added so that one doesn't have to catch fish to be able to advance up to maximum skill level.
20:05.17Firelemmingso fishing is not very needed anymore :)
20:06.02kenlyricunless you're a healer
20:06.02XyphorI have both cooking & fishing to 375 already
20:06.02kenlyricTHANKS BLIZZ
20:06.02Firelemming<-- 374 cooking :(
20:06.02XyphorFishing 527 with all items and lure
20:06.11Firelemming-.-
20:06.30XyphorI wanted Mr. Pinchy and did everything to get it :p
20:06.55Firelemmingi wonder in what exact way they will improve the leveling with mining
20:07.24XyphorMaybe +possible skill per hit instead of per vein?
20:07.27kenlyricprobably make smelting work longer.
20:07.31kenlyricor that
20:07.35kenlyricwould be awesome :)
20:07.36chipersweet!  "Characters will now retain talented spell ranks so when they retalent they do not have to relearn the spells from trainers.
20:07.45Firelemmingyeah, finally
20:07.48Xyphorchiper, was about time :p
20:08.13chipernot that I respec all that often, but that is going to make it a LOT cheaper
20:08.51Xyphor"Additional bonus honor is now rewarded on a Battleground Holiday."
20:09.11chiperwhere do you see that one?
20:09.26Firelemminghttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0
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20:10.18chiperI dont see it on that page
20:10.18XyphorI was on http://www.gamesiteguide.com/blog/world-of-warcraft-24-patch-notes/
20:10.42chiperXyphor: those notes arent real
20:10.56Xyphorhmm
20:11.06kenlyricfake patch notes are fake
20:11.07Firelemmingblue response on that one: While we have had fun releasing tid bits of info that will be in patch 2.4, we have not released complete patch notes yet.
20:11.12chiperif it doesnt have a link to a blizzard post, dont trust it
20:11.18AmadeoIt's too bad, most of the fake patch notes are pretty good
20:11.28chiperAmadeo: heh, yeah
20:11.35chiperfar TOO good in fact
20:11.39kenlyrichere is your big hint they are fake: "- The human Diplomacy racial now also increases healing received by 3%."
20:11.40chiperall buffs, no nerfs
20:11.41XyphorI'm pwnd :p
20:12.18Xyphor"Honor calculations will become instant rather than daily" for real?
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20:12.26chiperyes, that is real
20:12.29sbyup
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20:12.37chiperhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/ has all the actual blue posts
20:12.45sbno need for honor calculations - the problem there were the diminishing return honor
20:13.08Aeyanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311144220&sid=1#0
20:13.22XyphorAny ETA on 2.4?
20:13.33Firelemmingi have no idea
20:13.35chiperPTR likely in another month
20:13.49Ellipsis-lol at the fake notes, someone failed hard
20:13.58AmadeoInstant honor is so hot
20:14.20Ellipsis-in the warlock notes they claimed an "improved death coil" talent would be added to the destruction tree
20:14.29XyphorIF http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0 is true I'm gonna like a lot of it
20:14.30Ellipsis-never mind the fact that it doesn't need to be improved...it's an affliction spell
20:14.44chiperXyphor: see all those little numbers next to each line item?
20:14.51chiperthose are links to the actual blue posts
20:14.54chiperthey're true
20:14.55Xyphorahum... shhhhht :)
20:15.02XyphorI failed again didn't I?
20:15.05sbit is
20:15.17chiperyes, you fail at wiki
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20:15.58Firelemmingthats why i like wiki so much
20:16.03chiperI like the new search options for the profession UI
20:16.36Xyphorchiper: I have no idea what to expect of tha
20:16.38Xyphort
20:16.46Firelemmingi have ATSW
20:16.57RaydenUniso no diminishing returns means more honor right?
20:17.06chiperRaydenUni: in theory
20:17.30nevcairieland instant honor
20:17.32RaydenUnispell haste reduces gcd? interesting
20:17.35nevcairielno daily honor calc anymore
20:17.36chiperit does if you find yourself killing the same people over and over
20:18.16FirelemmingIf a player is killed 50 times in one battleground, they are not worth any honor for the duration of the Battleground
20:18.50chiperif a person is killed 50 times in a battleground, they should stop playing battlegrounds
20:18.55AeyanYeah, haste reducing the GCD is badass to no end for me, hehe
20:19.08AeyanConsidering all the spells I cast are instant or 1.5 sec
20:19.09RaydenUnisummoning restriction in netherstorm has been lifted?
20:19.16RaydenUniso now <70 can run netherstorm dungeons
20:19.18Firelemmingyes RaydenUni
20:19.39RaydenUni<chiper> if a person is killed 50 times in a battleground, they should stop playing battlegrounds <-- 4 hour WSG games ftl
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20:19.43Thraehaste figured out a way to reduce the GCD?!?! ...Oh wait, you mean *haste*, as in the enchant / proc.
20:19.45chiperRaydenUni: if you've got a lock, sure
20:19.54Firelemmingspell haste
20:19.55RaydenUnithrae spell haste
20:19.57sbno, haste Thrae
20:20.01sb1.4s -> 1s
20:20.02Firelemmingnot haste rating
20:20.04chiperheh, I dont play WSG for a reason :P
20:20.09sb<3 <3 haste for CoH
20:20.13sbthen ;p
20:20.15AeyanYes, I meant haste's oGCD
20:20.24Thraehaste: Sorry for thinking you were brilliant enough to crack the GCD
20:20.30RaydenUniWSG should be how many flags you can cap in a certain amount of time
20:20.46otravi*hides*
20:20.50RaydenUni<3 otravi
20:20.55chiperRaydenUni: yeah, that's a good idea
20:21.00RaydenUnii think i use otravi for everything
20:21.07otravi:3
20:21.11chiperaltho just putting a time limit on it would work
20:21.24Firelemmingkeep in mind you need alot of haste to get that 0.5 sec off your spell casting
20:21.30ThraeRaydenUni: There would be an endless stream of Paladins coming in and out of bases, like some type of Trojan condom convention gone wrong
20:21.31RaydenUniyeah but if you get two even teams then the time limit is a burden as neither wins
20:21.42RaydenUni?
20:22.13RaydenUni5 man dungeon with Kael'thas as the boss?
20:22.25chiperI'd rather have a draw and move on to something else then spend hours sitting around waiting
20:22.43Thrae5 man dungeon with ULTRA MECHA-HOGGER as an optional boss!
20:22.47chiperdieing over and over
20:23.18KalrothJust transfer Kael'thas without making any changes. Should be a nice 5 mana challenge at level 80.
20:23.19RaydenUnichiper whoever scores the most flags in 30 minutes wins. flag caps give you bonus honor and whoever has the most caps gets extra win bonus honor
20:24.20chiperI would say sixty minutes or first to three flags
20:24.28RaydenUnimaybe cap it at 5 flags
20:24.28ThraeRaydenUni: Wouldn't that make WSG more about the amaingly-well-geard individual then it already is, and less about the team effort that is harder to pull off due to the terrain?
20:24.45RaydenUnihow so?
20:24.51chiperThrae: yeah
20:24.53RaydenUniby making it about flag caputures and not killing?
20:25.10RaydenUniif that's the case then WSG needs a complete overhaul
20:25.16chiperyes, it does
20:25.22RaydenUnibut if you stick with flag caps as the objective, i think it's a good way to improve it
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20:25.30ThraeRaydenUni: Everyone would just go offense and never defense
20:25.44RaydenUnii considered that, but you can't cap in WSG unless you have your flag
20:25.47RaydenUniso you need to defend as well
20:25.53RaydenUniso how is that different than it is now?
20:25.56ThraePeople don't understand that
20:25.59RaydenUniwhat is it about WSG that causes people to defend?
20:26.04RaydenUniright now
20:26.06ThraeBecause they're idiots
20:26.27thulhmm
20:26.30thulI like to defend in wsg :-(
20:26.34RaydenUnii don't see how setting a time limit and giving more honor for every flag cap would make people more offensive
20:26.37ThraeI suggested a small honour bonus and/or rep bonus to those that are active inside the base
20:26.53ThraeI think most people are already offensive, but that's beside the point
20:26.58RaydenUniisn't the best strategy for WSG to have 9 people control the middle and have 1 person go get the flag?
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20:27.06thulhaha
20:27.13RaydenUnior something along those lines
20:27.15ThraeYes, WSG needs more strategums
20:27.22thulagain, I just like defending :-P
20:27.40RaydenUnithey just need to put me in charge of coming up with new battleground ideas
20:27.41OzguliI like attacking
20:27.55Ozgulibut the downside is that I LAG LIKE HELL whenever some horde player shows up
20:27.58ThraeLast thing we want to do is make it like Arena where you need a certain class combo with certain class specs with a minimum of a certain type of gear to get to the highest ranks
20:28.15RaydenUnihah, op racial
20:28.45ThraeOzguli: That's the "Lag Enemy" buff that shows up randomly in WSG!
20:29.08thulI just like stealthing in the flag room and sap/resap flag carrier, without him entering combat
20:29.11thuli love it
20:29.11thuli can't help it
20:29.12ThraeIt creates 40 passive Darkwing Whelps
20:29.16thulDR is a bitch though
20:29.17thul:
20:29.18thul:-(
20:29.24OzguliI also said in wsg /bg WTT half of my skilsl for a decent pc!
20:29.39thulI have to get a better desktop station fo sho,.
20:29.41Ozgulisome paladin would've gladly traded his
20:29.43thulmy macbook isn't cutting it :-(
20:29.49ThraeOzguli: I play WoW at 2560x1600 w/ max settings without a problem. Then again, I also have FiOS too.
20:29.59RaydenUnisap has diminishing returns right?
20:30.11AeyanOh yes
20:30.12OzguliI play 1600x800 not so good detail but that's not the problem
20:30.12ThraeRaydenUni: All CC does, to my knowledge
20:30.18thulRaydenUni: [21:29:00] < thul> DR is a bitch though
20:30.19OzguliRaydenUni yes shares it with gouge
20:30.19thul:-(
20:30.20RaydenUniso how long can you chain sap someone?
20:30.28thulhmm.
20:30.28Ozguli3 times
20:30.33thulyeah
20:30.35thulsounds about right.
20:30.38RaydenUniand what does it matter if the target is in combat?
20:30.39thuland that slows them down :-P
20:30.40thulgreat fun.
20:30.45thulwell, you can't sap in-combat targets.
20:30.48Ozguliif target is in combat you can't sap
20:30.54RaydenUnioh right
20:31.15Ozgulihmm
20:31.20Ozgulisap is used to stop mounted units
20:31.24thulhehe, yeah
20:31.28ThraeDruids also have Gouge too, it's called Maim, and it's cooler.
20:31.29Ozgulithen cheap shot and 5 point kidney shot
20:31.33thulThrae: how? :-(
20:31.37Ozguligouge, wait for DR to fade
20:31.42Ozgulianother 5 point kidney shot
20:32.01AmadeoDruids have everything cooler :(
20:32.17thulI kind of like garrote, vanish, premed, cs, hemo, evisc, hemo, hemo, gouge, ks
20:32.18Ozgulivanish, sap... wait almost until it ends and open with KS
20:32.18thul:-P
20:32.25RaydenUnimaim?
20:32.43OzguliI'm not into sub tbh
20:32.45Ozgulihate it
20:32.52AmadeoI don't like wasting the vanish like that
20:33.03RaydenUniif they have your flag, it would be worth it
20:33.12OzguliI almost won a 100% hp warrior when I had about 15% left myself like that
20:33.16thuli love subt :-P
20:33.20Thraethul: Pounce, Mangle, Rake, Maim, repeat! It doesn't break on our DoTs.
20:33.21thulshadowstep <3
20:33.26thul:-(
20:33.27thulevil
20:33.33thulbut druids are op, we all know this
20:33.33Ozguliyea sstep but other stuff sucks
20:33.33thul:-P
20:33.38thulwell, I love hemo too
20:33.39thuland dirty deeds
20:33.42thuland cheat death
20:33.42Cryectrepeat? how do you repeat the pounce and why are you raking?
20:33.45ThraeRESTO Druids are OP
20:33.45thuland + agility
20:33.52thuletc :-P
20:34.02OzguliCryect run out of combat
20:34.18ThraeCryect: Maim doesn't break on the Cat DoTs, and Maim is also just long enough (excusing DR) to let you re-stealth.
20:34.20OzguliI sometimes stealth, abuse LoS or range and start from all over
20:34.47Cryectah I normally find in PvP the target is dead before maim wears off anyways
20:34.50RaydenUnihow do you get out of combat
20:34.53RaydenUniit seems to take me forever
20:34.53CryectAnd rake is a waste of energy
20:35.22ThraeCryect: Pounce and Rake both are increased by Mangle, if you're doing a "Maim Lock" it's a better combo
20:35.25Cryectshred/mangle are way more damage per energy unless they've redone rake's formulas recently
20:35.46ThraeCryect: Shred would take up too much energy, meaning you'd need to wait longer for your 3-point Maim
20:35.58Cryectoh you are only doing a 3 pt maim
20:36.15ThraeIt's a poor-man's Stunlock, the idea is to keep them Stun'd or Disorient'd 99% of the time
20:36.26RaydenUnihow do you get them disoriented?
20:36.28Cryecthow are you restealthing in 4 seconds?
20:36.45Cryecttakes longer than that to get ooc
20:36.50Ozguli5 seconds
20:36.56Ozgulior 7?
20:37.11OzguliI anyway get ooc during improved gouge
20:37.24ThraeDepends
20:37.29RaydenUniwhat does ooc depend on?
20:37.33ThraeRaydenUni: You need to read up on Rogues and/or Druids
20:37.33RaydenUniproximity? dots?
20:37.41Ozgulino just last combat action
20:37.46Ozgulibtw what about spell interrupts when opponent just has too much hp?
20:37.49RaydenUniprobably, i'm not familiar with high level rogue/druid abilities
20:37.53RaydenUnionly have "low" level ones
20:37.58ThraeKnow Your Enemy -- the best way to defeat them.
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20:38.03OzguliI've found out that deadly throw rocks
20:38.05ThraeGouge is not a high-level ability
20:38.13RaydenUnigetting ooc seems random to me, but i haven't studied it too much
20:38.14AmadeoTalented Shred is only like 41 energy
20:38.18Amadeoit's pretty amazing
20:38.26RaydenUnithrae i'm familiar with gouge
20:38.26Cryect42 energy
20:38.37Ozguligouge and RUN
20:38.38CryectAnd yes its amazing especially with mangle
20:38.38Estilfuck
20:38.40EstilI hate tanking
20:38.43Estilwith hunters
20:38.51Ozgulihunters suck?
20:38.57Estildoing sethekk run
20:39.03Estilhunters wiped us 4 times now
20:39.10Cryectheh talented shred was made mangle worthless originally on beta till they had it modify shred damage :-p
20:39.10OzguliI once grouped with some hunter who sounded like a SMG
20:39.41Ozgulibangbangbangbangbangbangbang
20:39.47Estilthey woudln't wait for me to get agro
20:39.50Estiland open up with dps right away
20:39.56Estiland pet has growl on
20:40.00Ozguliand wouldn't even misdirect?
20:40.01Ozgulilol
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20:40.05ThraeI'm not sure a 2-second Pounce would give you enough time for Mangle, Rake, Shred, Maim...that would leave them available for 50% of the time. But I guess 50% is better then 100%!
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20:40.08OzguliEstil you had a bad healer
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20:40.14OzguliI just let them die
20:40.20ThraeThe Rake is in there for a 4-point Maim for restealth
20:40.21Ozguliand either they learn or stay dead
20:40.32Estilno misdirection, this is sethekk
20:40.36Estilso huntes aren't high level enough
20:40.54OzguliI thought it's a lvl 70 "for fun" grp
20:41.07ThraeHow much is a 3-point Maim again? Hmmm...
20:41.15Ozgulisame as others
20:41.18RaydenUni4sec?
20:41.36Ozguliif you have rank2
20:41.40OzguliI think
20:41.45Estilman
20:41.53Estilthese hunters can't follow kill order either lol
20:41.54Estil:(
20:41.57Kheperhey is heavy affliction a normal talent spec for locks just starting out doing end game raids?
20:42.00Estilhankfully we're almost done
20:42.35Khepermy guild says its preferable if u dont have a high spell hit rating
20:42.45ThraeOzguli: Nope, it goes up to 6 seconds, there is no Rank 2 Maim
20:42.48GrumKheper: actually its better than any other spec because the little hitrating you need
20:42.55OzguliIMBA
20:42.59Grumand you can quite easily get +dmg gear
20:43.04Ozgulirogues need rank 2 for the extra second
20:43.15Ozguliand why on earth we have this rank... 9 kick?
20:43.29Ozguliit just adds some dmg >_>
20:43.31Grumso you seem special
20:43.52ThraeOzguli: 1/2/3/4/5 combo points == 2/3/4/5/6 .sec disorient and additional damage per combo point
20:44.02Ozgulik
20:44.05Kheperbut dont u in the end still do more damage if ur heavy destro?
20:44.07Ozgulibut what about the kick?
20:44.20OzguliI'll ticket a GM about it in hope of a smart answer
20:44.20ThraeOzguli: I'm talking about Maim
20:44.32HjalteKheper: depends on your gear, but generally, yes.
20:44.37ArrowmasterKheper: with caped hit, high spell damage and highish crit desto is better
20:44.57Ozguliall the high end loot supports destro
20:45.16Ozguliespecially haste
20:45.17Kheperwut spell hit rating do u think is good enough to switch talent spec
20:45.22ArrowmasterKheper: http://www.leulier.com/
20:45.26mortdear god, it's almost impossible to find heroic groups as hunter :(
20:45.31OzguliKheper capped
20:45.40OzguliI think it's... pretty much
20:45.46Ozguli140?
20:45.51Ozgulior more
20:45.54Arrowmaster202
20:46.00Ozgulik
20:46.03Kheperby capped u mean max?
20:46.16Ozgulithe effective maximum
20:46.21ThraeOh, it seems *all* DoTs do not break Maim's disorient, including Moonfire and Insect Swarm
20:46.32ThraeAll Druid DoTS anyway
20:47.21ThraeI don't think a Feral should really spend ~800 mana just to cast a Moonfire, even with a heavily-armoured opponent (Warrior/Paladin)
20:47.30KheperArrowmaster: wut is that?
20:47.41Arrowmasterdps spreadsheet
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20:48.07ThraeMaim needs a full 5-point combo to let you go out of combat in PvP, in PvE it can happen as quick as 1-3 seconds
20:48.13OzguliThrae the moonfire might be better investment than some instant heal
20:48.53ThraeOzguli: Depends on if your opponent could stop the heal -- if you want to try a Maim lockdown, then sure
20:49.23OzguliThrae I said instant heal, it can't be stopped except by dispelling the hot
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20:49.42ThraeOh, and the Season 3 Arena Feral gloves allow Maim to interrupt spell casting and lock out that school for 3 seconds
20:49.47KheperArrowmaster: how am i supposed to read this
20:50.04Ozgulit5 resto set 2 set bonus makes some heal instant
20:50.06ArrowmasterKheper: that will tell you which spec will do more damage at your gear level
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20:52.02lua_bot[SW]Dodge: test
20:52.05[SW]Dodge:D
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20:55.22Cryect<Ozguli> t5 resto set 2 set bonus makes some heal instant
20:55.27Cryectyou mean t5 feral?
20:55.31Ozguliferal?
20:55.34Cryectyep
20:55.42OzguliI expected it'd be resto
20:55.47Cryect2 pc T5 feral lets you instaRegrowth
20:55.48Ozgulibut whatever, it's t5
20:55.48Cryectno
20:55.57Cryectwould be too powerful for resto
20:56.11[SW]Dodget5 2items feral -> instant regrowth after shiftig out of cat/bear/dire bear
20:56.11Cryectanyways it only lets you do it on a shift
20:56.26Ozgulipwns for arena
20:56.34[SW]Dodgeyea^^
20:56.35ThraeFeral Druids do arena?
20:56.36Cryectyes it does but you have to give up 4 pc arena set then
20:56.41Cryectnot really
20:56.45[SW]Dodge<- !
20:56.51Cryecteveryone I know respecs Resto for arena normally
20:57.01[SW]Dodgethen you dont know me :P
20:57.08Ozgulibtw what about t4 priest 2 set bonus... worth it? +150 healing over time for prayer of mending
20:57.10Cryectno I don't know you :-p
20:57.29Ozguliit might be affected by bonus healing
20:57.37sbpriest bonus suck :/ all of them
20:57.45[SW]Dodgei dont want to pay for respec :P
20:57.54OzguliI think t4 spriest set is cool, 75 stamina more for the pet
20:57.59sbexcept 2 * T5 (+100 mana if greater heal brings target to full health)
20:58.01Cryectits also annoying how 2 pc T4 feral is too damn powerful for PvE DPS
20:58.02Ozguliany idea how often I used it to tank elites? :P
20:58.07sbrocks for L1 gh spam
20:58.18sbr1 ;p
20:58.30Ozgulisb whut?
20:58.44Ozgulithat will be awesome
20:58.57Ozguliexcept that I'm running in primal suicide set
20:59.06sbOzguli: http://www.wowwiki.com/Avatar_Raiment
20:59.16sb(2) Set: If your Greater Heal brings the target to full health, you gain 100 mana.
20:59.22Ozgulibtw where's the t6 vendor?
20:59.34Ozgulinever seen it
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21:01.01sbmount hyjal
21:01.05sbinside the instance
21:01.11sb+of
21:01.21sbso you need MH attunement for t6
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21:01.51sb4 * T6 is also nice for GH R1 spam
21:02.22OzguliI spam rank 3 nowadays
21:02.28Ozgulishould I drop it to rank 1?
21:02.39sbdepends
21:02.49JeraimeeJust made my first PvP toon on Mug'thol. Anyone else on there?
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21:03.18sbi only use 2 ranks, 1 and highest
21:03.21khanggi'm in that battlegroup Jeraimee :)
21:03.32JeraimeeAh
21:04.22[SW]Dodgeuhm how can i get the "bla" from an chat command like "/test bla" with AceConsole-3.0? in the docs is nothing about it
21:04.46Ozgulit2 raid set full bonus o.O
21:04.56Ozguligheal grants rank 5 renew
21:05.11Ozgulias component
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21:05.27Ozgulit2*
21:05.30Ozguliyes t2
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21:09.37Ozgulishame the lvl 70 rare pvp sets aren't available anymore
21:09.43Ozgulilooks awesome
21:09.50Ozguli-most of it
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21:10.45thulhmm
21:11.58Ozgulialliance warrior/pala sets hurt my eyes
21:12.01nevcairieli think they'll readd the rare pvp sets with 2.4 as reputation rewards on the "normal" factions
21:12.08Ozgulimight be
21:12.26nevcairieli read something about that yesterday, forgot where :)
21:12.50Ozgulihere?
21:13.08Ozgulithey also disgussed the instant honor
21:13.33Ozguliit'd encourage corpse camping because the honor would need to stay same
21:13.57Osstia|homenot really
21:14.14Ozgulifree honor
21:14.25Osstia|homewho corpse camps for honor?  What I see it promoting more is endless WSG matches where people just battle in the middle
21:14.28Ozguliimagine 24 honor per kill, the tards would have a "real reason" now
21:14.32Osstia|homeOzguli: yeah, but at a very slow rate
21:14.32OzguliI've seen people do it for honor
21:14.45Ozgulithey're stupid imo
21:14.58OzguliI cry inside when some nelf huntard attacks an afk moo-moo
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21:15.55AmadeoI just soloed Morcrush in Blade's Edge!
21:16.05Ozguliwho's that?
21:16.17AmadeoSome 68 Rare Elite Giant I saw
21:16.22OzguliI soloed Dimensius, want to do it again for fun to see how gear affects it
21:16.35Ellipsis_I soloed your mom
21:16.45AmadeoOn my Warlock, but he's not fearable or CoEx-able :P
21:16.49Ozgulibannable offense!
21:16.50Amadeoand I'm only 66!
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21:28.36lua_bot[SW]Dodge:
21:28.59[SW]Dodgelua> if par == nil then print("a"); end
21:28.59lua_bot[SW]Dodge: a
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21:33.05Cryect<RaydenUni> so 50 deaths before no honor
21:33.05Cryect[02/02/2008 13:51:34] <RaydenUni> WSG will take forever now
21:33.08Cryectno it won't
21:33.29RaydenUniwhy won't it?
21:33.37RaydenUnialso, that was a very long delay
21:33.41CryectHeh they've not announced the full 2.4 patch notes yet
21:33.43CryectI went ot the DMV
21:34.04RaydenUni?
21:34.08CryectBut they are implementing a change that you can see where the flag carrier is after 45 seconds of holding the flag
21:34.19RaydenUniso?
21:34.25RaydenUnithat won't prevent honor farming
21:34.27Cryectafter 5 minutes the flag carrier takes 50% increased damage and after 10 minutes 100% increased damage
21:34.36Osstia|homeis that documented?
21:34.53CryectYou will find out about it soon
21:34.56Firelemmingdrop the flag and somebody else picks it up again ...
21:35.11Cryectyeah hopefully blizzard accounted for that :-p
21:35.59RaydenUniwhat about the matches where your team doesn't get a single kill and they farm youf or an hour?
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21:36.30Cryectuh HK's suck for honor compared to just finishing wsg in under 5 minutes
21:36.41RaydenUnieh
21:36.44RaydenUnii still see it though
21:36.56RaydenUnione time their flag carrier came back to our base so he could join in the farming
21:36.56Cryectthough a team should be able to farm you for 5 minutes on the gy while capping the flag 3 times in 5 minutes as well :-p
21:37.15Cryecthaha guess they weren't trying to farm honor and just be annoying
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21:37.35RaydenUnipremades will do what is best honor/hr
21:37.40RaydenUnibut non premade may farm for a while i think
21:37.41Cryectbtw warriors are going to be happy to know they are getting nerfed in 2.4 ;)
21:38.43CryectNot sure why the CM's just don't release the full patch notes instead of releasing like half the stuff in five million posts
21:39.47ThraeCryect: Because they'd rather deal with fallout when they're almost positive the patch notes will persist onto Live
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21:41.25Amadeowhy are Warriors getting nerfed?
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21:41.46Estilwait
21:41.46khanggAmadeo, how? :o
21:41.49Estilwarriors are getting nerfed?!
21:41.51Estilhalleluai
21:41.54Estilluia*
21:41.54WobinIt's a month ending in y?
21:42.08Cryectbtw Fisker- better not be bitching about AV anymore when he hears the change coming :-p
21:42.09Wobinhehe halle lua =P
21:42.10Amadeowell, why and how :)
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21:42.44CIA-903ckknight * r60042 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - replace some `unit` vars with just "mouseover"
21:42.45Cryectits pretty minor DR added to imp hamstring
21:42.53ThraeAmadeo: Yes, my mother and little sister play a lot, my little brother a good bit, and my father sometimes jumps on just to do a family activity.
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21:43.00ThraeWhoops. Oh well.
21:43.16ThraeBe sure to take that statement out of context.
21:43.17WobinFamily activity, eh? "Hey kids! Lets go raid Orgrimmar!"
21:43.29Ellipsis...
21:43.30ThraeWobin: Seriously, that's what they do
21:43.30Wobin"I never see you otherwise..."
21:43.33Cryectplay a lot? jumps on and family activity?
21:44.00helpplshi, can anyone help me? i'm trying to get a nice UI? but i cant find something that suits me :s
21:44.10AmadeoCryect: Just Hamstring?
21:44.10ckknight_Thrae: just like the Aristocrats
21:44.15Estiloh
21:44.21EstilI was hoping that Hamstring as whole was gonna get DR
21:44.23snegoviKhi all... ) nice to see good ol' nicks are still here :)
21:44.24Estilthat would've been a great news
21:44.27AmadeoCryect: Or does that mean all effects like that? Such as Wing Clip, etc?
21:44.27Wobinckknight: ba-dum-tisch
21:44.40AmadeoIf they do it to all, I don't care about it
21:44.41Aeyanhelppls: Most people here don't use pre-packaged UIs, so help might be limited.
21:44.43Wobinckknight: and only if they bring the dog into it
21:44.44AmadeoIf they just do it to Hamstring, it's BS
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21:45.05ckknight_Wobin: as well as the old Jewish grandma
21:45.07helpplswell, i'm trying to learn how i can make my own one so thats why i'm here :s
21:45.08CryectAmadeo: don't know will have to wait and see
21:45.21CryectI was wondering that but wasn't curious enough to ask
21:45.27AmadeoThat's an indirect Druid nerf, too!
21:45.44AmadeoMakes their shifting a little less amazing
21:46.20Cryecthaha might as well say that makes paladins nerfed as well :-p
21:46.23Estilactually instead of dr on hamstring
21:46.27EstilI want hamstring to have 10 second cooldown
21:46.41RaydenUnidruid nerf Amadeo ?
21:47.02AmadeoRaydenUni: not really, hehe
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21:47.11RaydenUniwhat changed?
21:47.17AmadeoIf Hamstring gets DR, or a cooldown...fine with me, but other abilities like it need to follow suit
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21:47.23WobinAn indirect druid nerf in that it makes a skill of theirs less 'omg' by removing the requirement for it
21:47.32RaydenUniremoving what requirement?
21:47.45RaydenUni"indirect druid nerf" doesn't describe at all what changed
21:47.46WobinTheir ability to shift out of imp hamstring
21:47.55Wobinis less useful
21:48.02RaydenUnioh
21:48.03Wobinwhen the imp hamstring has DR
21:48.10jscinozIs there a lightweight alternative to supemacro?
21:48.22RaydenUniso druids didn't really get nerfed
21:48.26Wobinno =)
21:48.30RaydenUnithey just don't ahve to compensate for a debuff
21:48.35Wobinyes
21:48.37RaydenUnii se
21:48.39RaydenUnisee
21:48.44AmadeoOh wait, only *Improved* Hamstring has DR?
21:48.47Cryectyes
21:48.49Amadeowho cares
21:48.50Amadeolol
21:48.51WobinI know not
21:48.54Cryectthats the point
21:49.02WobinIt's the immobilize, isn't it?
21:49.03Cryectyes
21:49.24AmadeoSpamming that just means you're wasting GCD and not doing anything
21:49.31Cryectright
21:49.39Amadeoseems like a pointless change, but if it keeps them from more nerfs, I'm all for that one :P
21:49.51Cryectprolly just to prevent griefing by imp hamstring or something stupid
21:51.51AmadeoI always thought that Improved Hamstring was a lot less amazing than the Hunter version
21:52.30AmadeoYeah, theirs is 20% chance and they start with a full mana bar to do it with
21:52.55Cryectit used to be a lot more helpful for them to have it go off as well
21:53.08AmadeoNow days it doesn't matter, since they have like 30 ways to get range
21:53.21Amadeoand they don't actually need range anymore :P
21:53.22Cryectyeah plus no deadzone anymore anyways
21:53.24Amadeohahah
21:53.40AmadeoI thought that was a silly change...fine, remove the Deadzone, but time to change the class around
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21:54.06WobinGo go munters
21:57.27Ozguliwhat's this speak about deadzone?
21:57.36Ozgulionly a stupid hunter lets his pet run away
21:58.05jscinozguys, is there an addon that will let me have more than 255 macro characters and/or let me link long scripts into macros? similar to supermacro but actually works.
21:58.17CIA-903ckknight * r60043 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - add in a hack to refresh the tooltip when the mouseover unit dies.
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21:59.59Grumis there any way to turn of 'snapping' in Bartender3? i want to drag that frame to the pixel i choose but it decides to snap to thoer frames
22:00.51RaydenUnidisable the other one temporarily?
22:01.03KivinSticky frames or something, in the main config
22:01.04Grumit snaps to an unknown frame
22:01.08Grumsticky frames? mm
22:01.29Grumthanks :)
22:01.30Grumfound it
22:01.33CIA-903ckknight * r60044 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - fix toc for LibDruidMana-1.0
22:01.42Kivinckknight_: ping
22:01.45ckknight_yes?
22:02.01Kivinshould :OnProfileDisable/Enable be called when the profile is changed in RockConfig?
22:02.38CIA-903ckknight * r60045 10PitBull/DruidManaBar/PitBull_DruidManaBar.toc: PitBull_DruidManaBar - update toc for LibDruidMana-1.0
22:02.39ckknightyes
22:03.04KivinAny particular reason jump out at you why it wouldn't, then?  I'm changing profiles, here, and never reaching OnProfileDisable or OnProfileEnable
22:04.06KivinSigh.  I'll have to unwind a bit of my code here and see what I've done
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22:07.27CIA-903ckknight * r60046 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - try something to alleviate the feeling of lagginess.
22:08.52charonWTF
22:08.57charonhas the deDE log format been changed?
22:09.19charona friend just sent me a log that features such precious information as: 2/2 19:15:49.082  Kensuhkano erhält 981 Gesundheit durch Verjüngung.
22:09.31charonor in english: Kensuhkano gains 981 health by Rejuvenation.
22:09.37charonof course, it doesn't state WHOSE rejuv that was.
22:12.03charoncan an addon change the data that is logged to WoWCombatLog.txt?
22:12.17ulicI don't think so
22:12.19Firelemmingno
22:12.32Cryectyes
22:12.52charonshall we vote on the subject ;)
22:12.57Cryectany alterations done to the global arg1
22:12.58Firelemminglol
22:13.02Cryectwill be reflected in the wowcombatlog.txt
22:13.15Thorgardcharon, maybe your friend is using something that changes the log? Like SCL?
22:13.19Cryectif you are using fixlogstrings
22:13.57Cryectyou will notice the changes appear in your combatlog for example
22:14.16Cryectguess its actually changing the patterns used to generate the data but still it cna be changed
22:15.37charonhe tells me he runs Prat and some chatlog addon... we'll go test
22:16.30CIA-903peragor * r60047 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): (log message trimmed)
22:16.30CIA-9GridLayoutPlus:
22:16.30CIA-9- Added 3 more layouts to cover all the Group By xx without pets
22:16.30CIA-9- Added toggle for pet/nopet for use with auto adjust
22:16.30CIA-9- Added a max columns (1-16) for those that want to limit the size that the frame grows to
22:16.31CIA-9- Added a warning toggle that will show you when your auto adjusted layout is causing players or pets to be hidden
22:16.36CIA-9- Changed all menu options to consistantly end with (+) to signify that it's related to the GridLayoutPlus addon
22:21.50charonwell
22:21.53charonhe disabled all addons
22:22.00charonit's still the same no-good nonsensical information
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22:26.34charonspeaking of combat logs, i wrote a python parser for the logs that tries to help with automatic filtering and grouping for custom statistic. if anyone's interested in that kind of thing.
22:27.32Diaowhat's the difference between it and wws?
22:28.19charonwell, it doesn't do anything automatically, but you can do anything you like by writing a few lines of python code, even some things that wws doesn't do
22:28.30charonfor example i've made plots of the damage distribution per ability
22:28.54charonhttp://vmp.ethz.ch/~thomas/archi-amountdens.png
22:29.04sbhmmm
22:29.07CIA-903naiad * r60048 10BuffAllReady/BuffAllReady.lua:
22:29.07CIA-9BuffAllReady:
22:29.08CIA-9- Corrected name for 'City of Ironforge'
22:29.15Diaooh
22:29.28charonof course the downside that it's about no use at all if you don't know some python
22:29.41charoni'm not the kind of guy who writes frontends ;)
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22:44.47Orionshockmorning all
22:45.14cchomeanyone know how i can figure out which mod is breaking PARROT? after a few minutes playing parrot totally stops working until i restart.
22:45.56ckknightany errors?
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22:50.30Fisker-btw Antiarc
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22:54.58Gnarfozvhaarr: ping
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22:57.36on1yanyone know how to get the GCD in quartz to work?
22:58.48cchomeck: yah some grid errors..i use a mouseover macro for my Lifeblooms, rejuvs..my grid has lifebloomstatus errors
22:59.42cchome[2008/02/02 17:58:49-2976-x1]: Grid\GridStatusHeals.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of LibBanzai-2.0.Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:490: in function `AceLibrary'Grid\GridStatusHeals.lua:4: in main chunk
23:00.01Stanzillainstall LibBanzai-2.0 then
23:00.06on1yanyone know how to get the GCD in quartz to work?
23:00.09Stanzillathat was hard..
23:00.12ckknightseems obvious if you ask me, Stanzilla
23:00.26Ellipsison1y: set some GCD detection spells in the options
23:00.44on1yi tried
23:00.49on1yi typed Life Tap
23:01.08on1yand then if i close the menu it looses my spell i typed in
23:01.14Arrowmasterpress enter
23:01.16Ellipsisyou have to hit enter after typing in the spell name
23:01.45on1yah
23:02.33on1ywhere do i see the GCD bar at?
23:03.23cchomenew pitbull has errors
23:03.24cchome[2008/02/02 18:02:41-2977-x1]: PitBull-r60046\DruidManaBar\DruidManaBar.lua:57: PitBull_DruidManaBar requires LibDruidMana-1.0 to be available.
23:04.29Stanzilladownload LibDruidMana-1.0
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23:05.14cchomeyah lol after i saw the error
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23:09.13thulwtf, how low is blink cd really?
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23:10.32CIA-903funkydude * r60057 10LightQueue/ (LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc):
23:10.32CIA-9LightQueue: v2.21
23:10.32CIA-9- Broadcast AV number to party if not in a raid
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23:12.04Cryect15s
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23:14.50Gnarfoz~seen vhaar
23:15.19purli haven't seen 'vhaar', Gnarfoz
23:15.19Gnarfoz~seen vhaarr
23:15.20purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace (22h 4m 20s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 5h 29m 16s, last said: 'no'.
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23:16.10vhaarrGnarfoz: hey
23:16.49Fisker-~seen Gnarfoz
23:16.50purlgnarfoz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace. Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 1m 31s, last said: '~seen vhaarr'.
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23:18.12on1ydoes grid now include auto grid size?
23:20.00Orionshockok.. that should work... kind of a hack imo but .. it's working atm -.-
23:20.20Gnarfozvhaarr: mind if I update LifePercent with more release dates? obviously they are not the same for everywhere ;) also, the US one seems wrong, the timestamp converts to 2005-may-25 or something instead of nov 2004
23:21.05on1yis there a way fro grid to show who has a ss?
23:21.18Gnarfozvhaarr: or if you're bored and want to do it yourself: http://ace.pastey.net/81699 :)
23:21.33vhaarrGnarfoz: the timestamp for lifepercents release date is a median date between the different release dates WoW had in the world
23:21.42Hjalteon1y: Yes and yes to both questions. Auto sizing requires an extra addon and showing of buffs just needs you to set it up.
23:21.43vhaarrGnarfoz: between the US release and the China/Hong Kong release
23:21.51Gnarfozvhaarr: ahhh ;D
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23:22.12Xinhuani don't see why a user in the US would want to care about china releases though ;p
23:22.24vhaarrI didn't say he would
23:22.27on1yHJ how woudl i set  the SS thing up
23:22.38Tifiwhich version of ace3 is the new agUF using?
23:23.56vhaarrI took a date somewhere in between the different world release dates so that it didn't have to be configured by the user
23:23.57Tifii installed ace3 alpha and i'm getting errors because AceAddon...:IsEnabled doesn't exist
23:24.16Gnarfozcan that not be autodetected reliably?
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23:24.25CIA-903peragor * r60060 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
23:24.25CIA-9GridLayoutPlus:
23:24.25CIA-9- Changed warnings
23:24.25CIA-9- Now counting number of potential pets to gage layout
23:24.29vhaarrGnarfoz: it could be detected based on locale, I guess
23:24.30ThraeDoes Ace2 and Ace3 not work well together? Methinks they wouldn't.
23:24.34vhaarrGnarfoz: feel free to do that
23:24.38Arrowmasterthey do
23:24.40vhaarrThrae: They do not.
23:24.44Gnarfozvhaarr: alright =)
23:24.55vhaarrAce3 overwrites Ace2's /print command with a FAR less superior one, for example.
23:24.55kagaroEvilElvis ping
23:25.11CIA-903crashmstr * r60061 10ASSBlock/ASSBlock.lua:
23:25.11CIA-9ASSBlock:
23:25.12CIA-9- added a blocked log
23:25.29Nargiddleythats only with Ace3 installed standalone
23:25.43ThraeI hate it when alpha projects aren't completed! How dare they.
23:25.51vhaarrhey, you asked
23:26.41vhaarrGnarfoz: glad you like my little addon, most people are afraid to install it :P
23:27.08Gnarfozvhaarr: yeah, it's kind of intimidating, really
23:27.14vhaarrindeed it is
23:27.39Gnarfozcare to reveal how many percent it shows for you? ;)
23:27.56on1yIf i added an aura in Grid how do i remove it?
23:27.58CIA-903evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60062 10kgPanels/embeds.xml: kgPanels: small bug fix to xml namespace
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23:28.28vhaarrGnarfoz: that's why I haven't written about it on the forums yet, I don't want to show any screenshots :P
23:28.36vhaarrbut it's high
23:28.50RaydenUnivhaarr what is your mod?
23:28.55vhaarrLifePercent
23:29.00RaydenUniand why would people be afraid to install it?
23:29.04vhaarrtry it
23:29.06vhaarryou'll see
23:29.08Xinhuani'm sure its lower % than mine vhaarr
23:29.12RaydenUniuh...
23:29.19vhaarrnoone tell him what it is please
23:29.23vhaarrjust install it and relog :P
23:29.25RaydenUnithat's not really a gray way to encourage someoen to try it
23:29.36RaydenUni"people are scared to install, you intall it and see why"
23:29.42Xinhuanlol
23:29.43vhaarrhehe
23:29.47Tifizomg haxx! keylogger!
23:29.51RaydenUnicause at this point i have no itnerest in installing
23:29.53Xinhuani'm scared to install it too
23:30.00Xinhuanbut i know my LifePercent :)
23:30.08vhaarrRaydenUni: that's funny, I have no interest in you installing it either
23:30.10RaydenUnii'm not realys cared, just not worth looking into as i know nothing about it
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23:30.26RaydenUniso why insist on not explaining what it does?
23:30.32vhaarrmaybe we should have coffee some time, so I could throw it in your face
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23:31.07mortor read the description in the updater... i will never install something like that ;)
23:31.25CIA-903evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60063 10kgPanels/ (. Libs/ kgPanels.lua kgPanels.toc): kgPanels: added AceConfig-3.0 to libs
23:32.58CIA-903ckknight * r60064 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua): Cartographer - fix taint issue when opening and closing the map without LookNFeel while in combat.
23:33.37Xinhuanwhoa that's fixed finally
23:33.43RaydenUnilifepercent doesn't show up on the updater
23:34.06Arrowmasterckk commiting something to cartographer? omg!
23:34.07mortit does
23:34.18ckknightArrowmaster: ...so?
23:34.25kagaroEvilElvis: ping
23:34.28RaydenUnioh i see
23:34.28Estilexcuse me while I cry
23:34.36RaydenUnii figured it was something like that
23:34.37Estilmy druid lost the Epoch Mender to a Warlock
23:34.37OrionshockQuestion: is this the right syntax?  L["Enable or Disable sharing '%s' to guild"]:format(realname)
23:34.40Estilwho said "it has more spelldmg than what I got"
23:34.43RaydenUni"Shows you how many percent of your life you spent in WoW."
23:34.45Orionshockor do i need to enclose it with () ?
23:34.53ckknightOrionshock: don't need to enclose it
23:35.01ckknightOrionshock: I'd do %q instead of '%s', though
23:35.02Orionshockthx :D
23:35.10Orionshock..? %q
23:35.14charonEstil: it also has 12mp5 which is very important for a lock.
23:35.24RaydenUniwhat
23:35.27charon(i'm sorry for your loss)
23:35.29RaydenUniwhy would a lock care about mp5?
23:35.46Estilcharon was being sarcastic I'm sure
23:35.47EvilElvispong
23:36.00ckknightOrionshock: yea, shows a literal string
23:36.05charonyes i was. i'll try to be more explicit about it next time
23:36.37CIA-903xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60065 10Routes/Data.lua: Routes: Step 1 - converting our data to be independent of LibBabble-Zone.
23:36.43ckknight("%q"):format("pants\\tastic") == '"pants\\\\tastic"' == [=["pants\\tastic"]=]
23:36.47Estiland he got us wiped because he didn't use his beacon :(
23:36.55Kivinsince when does conjured food dissapear when you leave a battleground?
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23:38.09Osstia|homei have seen that on occasion with cross realm stuff.  but only on rare occasions
23:39.02Orionshockckknight: false ?
23:39.08Orionshockleast that's what the game says
23:39.25ckknightOrionshock: because there's multiple == signs
23:39.29Orionshockah
23:39.57Orionshockok... it woks and I sorta understand what it does :D
23:40.19CIA-903ckknight * r60066 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:
23:40.19CIA-9PitBull_Aura - add some more buffs to the filtering system.
23:40.19CIA-9- if this is broken, blame Ellipsis
23:40.28Arrowmasterlua> ("%q"):format("pants\\tastic")
23:40.28lua_botArrowmaster: "pants\\tastic",
23:40.55ckknightlua> ("%q"):format("pants\\tastic") == '"pants\\\\tastic"'
23:40.55lua_botckknight: true
23:41.44kagaroEvilElvis: you get tho emessages?
23:41.50Arrowmasterlua> ("%q"):format('pants\\tastic')
23:41.50lua_botArrowmaster: "pants\\tastic",
23:42.52EvilElvisno
23:43.09vithosKivin: it disappears when you arena, for sure, but i've not seen it disappear for a regular BG
23:43.14CIA-903ckknight * r60067 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot - removing pants, just down to my skivvies now
23:43.34kagaroEvilElvis: join #kgPanels
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23:50.08Osstia|homeCan someone explain to me what the GCD is reference to the 2.54 chages to haste?  I always understood GCD as the quick half a second after you cast a spell or ability in which you cannot do anything.
23:51.45rubikGCD = 1.5 seconds for most.. 1.0 seconds for druids in cat form and rogues
23:52.04Osstia|homeso spell haste will be able to drop that from 1.5 to 1.0 in theory
23:52.09rubikdon't worry about the 2.4 change.. it's prolly too powerful and won't happen
23:52.30rubikbut yes, that's what it looks to be.. from 1.5 -> 1.0
23:52.44[SW]Dodgewhat frameType do i need for simple text? if i'm using CreateFrame(...)
23:53.04Arrowmasterits not powerful at all
23:53.29rubiki don't know.. melee people will QQ and it won't happen, imo
23:53.46Arrowmasterit takes 780 some spell haste to get gcd from 1.5 to 1.0
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23:54.22rubikthat's a great point, yeah
23:54.28GnarfozXinhuan: is there a separate .sg WoW? wikipedia says so
23:54.44Xinhuannot sure what you mean
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23:55.03charonstill it seems strange to buff an aspect that will probably benefit resto druids most, if arguably not the pvp kind (and perhaps warlocks, dunno)
23:55.17GnarfozI guess separate server pools like europe vs. u.s. vs. china vs. korea
23:55.22Arrowmasterresto druids and holy paladins
23:55.26CIA-903ckknight * r60068 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua Modules/Auras.lua): LibDogTag-2.0 - add optional support for LibBabble-Spell-3.0 instead of 2.2
23:55.41Arrowmasterbecause spell haste doesnt do much for them
23:55.42rubikpretty much, yeah
23:55.43otravi[SW]Dodge: if you just need a fontstring and nothing more: local fs = UIParent:CreateFontString()
23:55.46Xinhuansingapore plays on US servers
23:56.02otravi[SW]Dodge: in other cases frame will be sufficient
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23:56.35[SW]Dodgei want a text below a button
23:57.12cchomeis there a way to make 2 focus targets
23:57.19Arrowmasterno
23:57.29[SW]Dodges/button/frame with the frameType button/
23:57.34cchomedamn
23:57.37thulhttp://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/52/525/525736/0M5E97013_1201981713.jpg <- the band heroes and zeroes
23:57.41thulmy guess, the middle guy is the zero
23:57.51RaydenUnihow useful is Death Wish when leveling?
23:58.05Aens|Superioritygood if you got a healer
23:58.10RaydenUnisoloing
23:58.12Aens|Superioritysince its a relatively short cooldown
23:58.21thulwho levels as arms anyhow? :-P
23:58.24Aens|Superiorityits just another button to hit
23:58.41RaydenUniwhat should i level as?
23:58.49Aens|Superiorityfury
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23:58.49RaydenUniwhen i started i read somewhere i should level as arms
23:58.52thulfury
23:58.53thul:-)
23:58.58RaydenUniwhy is fury better?
23:59.04Aens|Superiorityflurry
23:59.10thul5p in cruelty first, then 5 in unbridled wrath,
23:59.12thulyou get slam
23:59.13Aens|Superiorityand more one handed weapons when levelling up
23:59.13thulslam > *
23:59.25Aens|Superiorityuhh. slam is awful when soloing
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23:59.52thul?!
23:59.54thulslam is _best_ when soloing
23:59.56thulno? :-P

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