| 00:03.32 | Fiskersmas | wuts good aoe grind spot for mag'har? |
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| 00:07.53 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57473 10AuctionProfit/AuctionProfit.toc: AuctionProfit: added X-AceForum and X-Website to toc |
| 00:10.45 | Pkekyo| | thul: also, when are you sending me those knees? :p |
| 00:11.32 | thul | Pkekyo|: haha |
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| 00:13.34 | Graawr | Hallo! |
| 00:13.53 | Pkekyo| | thul: seriously though, I'll need'em :p |
| 00:16.49 | thul | Pkekyo|: haha, what for? |
| 00:17.24 | Pkekyo| | walking |
| 00:17.43 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 00:18.55 | thul | haha |
| 00:20.38 | thul | I think I need them myself:P |
| 00:20.57 | Pkekyo| | doooh! :< |
| 00:26.43 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 00:26.47 | Pkekyo| | I should exploit this |
| 00:26.55 | Pkekyo| | get one of those fancy wheelchairs with engines |
| 00:27.07 | Pkekyo| | stick some rocket boosters on it or something |
| 00:28.32 | thul | hehehe |
| 00:28.39 | thul | like the jackal-rocket-mg thing |
| 00:29.44 | Pkekyo| | would be really cool though |
| 00:30.06 | Pkekyo| | nitrous powered wheelchair |
| 00:30.25 | Pkekyo| | ought to draw some ladies' attention, aye |
| 00:30.40 | thul | hehe |
| 00:32.20 | Pkekyo| | lollerfanny |
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| 00:36.23 | Pkekyo| | where does all the bloody americans go during us daytime? O.o |
| 00:38.38 | thul | boooored |
| 00:39.41 | Pkekyo| | huuuuuuuuungry |
| 00:40.30 | Pkekyo| | thul: shotgun or pistol as a secondary? :p |
| 00:40.53 | thul | Pkekyo|: pistol ofc. |
| 00:40.55 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/359/a/7/goth_bitch_by_flip_therion.jpg <- beyond weird (nsfw) |
| 00:41.04 | Pkekyo| | also: what's the current norwegian army sidearm? |
| 00:41.20 | Pkekyo| | you're right, that's beyond weird |
| 00:41.32 | Pkekyo| | reminds me of someone I used to date /shrug |
| 00:42.21 | thul | Pkekyo|: glock 17 |
| 00:42.40 | Pkekyo| | still? same as when my dad was in the army |
| 00:42.48 | Pkekyo| | and he sure is one old geezer |
| 00:43.07 | thul | haha |
| 00:43.14 | thul | well, I used that when i was in tmbn for 2-3 years ago |
| 00:43.18 | thul | -for |
| 00:44.04 | Pkekyo| | I'm looking forward to seeing automatic weapons as standard issue military sidearms tbh |
| 00:44.13 | Pkekyo| | will make action movies alot more interesting, I'd imagine :p |
| 00:44.35 | thul | well, sorry to break your dreams:P but i _never_ used automatic in any serious setting |
| 00:44.42 | thul | automatic is for mitrs and mgs |
| 00:44.54 | Pkekyo| | mitrs? |
| 00:45.30 | thul | mitraljøse |
| 00:45.33 | thul | mg++ :-P |
| 00:46.14 | Pkekyo| | gatling guns and machineguns, then? :p |
| 00:46.29 | thul | mhm |
| 00:46.42 | Pkekyo| | you can't say a glock at full auto won't make great action movies though :p |
| 00:47.36 | thul | haha |
| 00:48.50 | Pkekyo| | Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, next to soccer. |
| 00:49.32 | thul | http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/358/9/e/Wait_for_it_by_marwanuk.jpg <- where are all the sexy bdsm-people? :-P |
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| 00:49.58 | Pkekyo| | they do not exist? |
| 00:50.29 | Pkekyo| | du blir nok nødt til å ta til takke med ei hardbarka traktorlesbe fra indre trøndelag :p |
| 00:51.31 | Pkekyo| | what's with browsing the fetish section of dART anyways? |
| 00:53.36 | thul | it is fun :-D |
| 00:53.40 | thul | so much weirdness |
| 00:53.47 | thul | i browse animal section for cuteness |
| 00:53.53 | thul | fetish for weirdness |
| 00:53.56 | thul | artistic nude for sexyness |
| 00:53.56 | miica | d(O,o)b |
| 00:54.12 | miica | lol it wasnt my thul :( |
| 00:54.15 | miica | you failed. |
| 00:54.26 | miica | well my thull likes animals 2 |
| 00:54.40 | Pkekyo| | any man getting his jollies off browsing the dART fetish section scares the living daylights outta me |
| 00:55.26 | miica | well here is some fun for you http://www.heinola.org/~count/tissit/ tissit = boobs |
| 00:56.08 | thul | miica: hmm? :-P |
| 00:56.15 | Pkekyo| | the shear number of boobs indexed on that site alone is scary as hell |
| 00:56.21 | thul | ooh |
| 00:56.22 | thul | lots |
| 00:56.23 | Pkekyo| | TEH TITTIES R INVAEDING |
| 00:56.30 | miica | tits <3 |
| 00:56.34 | thul | :-D |
| 00:56.35 | thul | tits |
| 00:56.47 | Pkekyo| | 3052 thumbnails |
| 00:56.54 | Pkekyo| | that's fucking disturbing |
| 00:57.04 | thul | haha |
| 00:57.13 | thul | http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2007/354/2/4/Do_you_want_to_play__2_by_DrFatso.jpg <- that one must be fairly young |
| 00:57.33 | Pkekyo| | I'd say that one would get you imprisoned |
| 00:58.01 | thul | mhm |
| 00:58.05 | thul | my guess exactly |
| 00:59.29 | thul | http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/355/7/4/Milk____preview_2___by_neufleisch.jpg <- ok, that one was likable :-P |
| 00:59.56 | Pkekyo| | I've stopped going out with women without them showing some proper ID tbh, can't tell the difference between a 15 year-old and a 25 year-old anymore |
| 01:00.20 | thul | haha |
| 01:00.25 | thul | well, I got a shock 3-4 years ago |
| 01:00.26 | thul | i was 22 |
| 01:00.35 | thul | she told me she was 19, and i thought "man.. that is a bit young, but ok" |
| 01:00.41 | thul | she was _almost_ 16 |
| 01:00.43 | Pkekyo| | she was 15? |
| 01:00.47 | thul | yeah :-( |
| 01:00.48 | thul | shit |
| 01:00.53 | Pkekyo| | yeah, hence: ask for fucking ID |
| 01:01.00 | Pkekyo| | ask her parents |
| 01:01.17 | Pkekyo| | I'm scared tbh....can't tell which ones will get you jailed anymore :p |
| 01:01.33 | Fiskersmas | hyperChipmunk :O |
| 01:01.35 | Zhinjio | damn, level 20 of planarity took nearly an hour to complete. This is getting insane. |
| 01:01.45 | thul | yeah |
| 01:02.12 | Pkekyo| | I've -seriously- started asking for IDs :p |
| 01:02.20 | miica | ha ha |
| 01:02.24 | thul | :-P |
| 01:02.38 | miica | "HELLO I AM FROM INTERNET SHOW YOUR ID" |
| 01:02.46 | Pkekyo| | rofl miica |
| 01:02.48 | Pkekyo| | irl |
| 01:03.12 | Zhinjio | there's gotta be an easier way to extract all my phone numbers and shit out of my razr |
| 01:03.16 | miica | btw need to try next time in bar "hi i am from internet" |
| 01:03.27 | thul | hahaha |
| 01:03.34 | thul | Hey, I'm from the internet, don't worry |
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| 01:04.43 | Pkekyo| | http://stuff.orly.ch/img/blog/dont_worry_sir_i_m_from_the_internet.jpg |
| 01:04.54 | Pkekyo| | love that pic |
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| 01:10.33 | miica | how did you find those boob pics from devart :( |
| 01:11.48 | Killmore | is it possible with a macro to show how much HP left from to be full ? |
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| 01:21.42 | khangg | my cartographer isn't showing the waypoint arrow :( |
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| 01:35.44 | Pkekyo| | any way to get a bartender bar to hide unless a modifier is pressed? |
| 01:47.53 | Pkekyo| | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 01:47.55 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 89 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 49m 32s, last said: 'i think svn mkdir works directly on the server'. |
| 01:48.01 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: pingaling? |
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| 02:04.23 | Kivin | when i call MyTooltip:AddLine(someString), the tooltip creates the line but doesn't increase the size of the enclosure to accomodate it, wtf/ |
| 02:05.02 | Kivin | oh, wiki is my friend.. |
| 02:10.03 | Hjalte | Since today, my screen sometimes shakes while being in the middle of towns and everything. Anyone experiencing something similar? |
| 02:11.40 | dylanm | Shakes? |
| 02:11.53 | dylanm | Move off the fault line. |
| 02:15.23 | vhaarr | Hjalte: You have BuffProtectorGnome? |
| 02:15.43 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Yeah! |
| 02:16.01 | vhaarr | You're hovering a flask, then. Either in your bags, action bar or AH. |
| 02:20.14 | Hjalte | That could be it, I suppose. Naughty vhaarr making my screen shake :\ |
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| 02:31.44 | [AR]Camci | lol emo http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc |
| 02:33.14 | Tinyboom | rofl |
| 02:33.44 | Kivin | omfg |
| 02:33.47 | Kivin | is that for real? |
| 02:34.55 | [AR]Camci | i think so ^^ |
| 02:35.08 | Kivin | how can anyone be that... over the top. omg... |
| 02:35.31 | [AR]Camci | that was the first of The Time magazine top 10 videos |
| 02:35.44 | [AR]Camci | you can see the rest here: http://www.ar-swc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=637 |
| 02:35.48 | [AR]Camci | ^^ |
| 02:36.19 | Kivin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCZSDxA8_JA&NR=1 |
| 02:36.43 | [AR]Camci | rofl |
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| 02:44.17 | Kivin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9D_ArnVOY&feature=related |
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| 03:06.18 | khangg | so |
| 03:06.30 | khangg | my cartographer is giving me literally 20000+ errors. |
| 03:09.25 | Pernicius | a little question: i start a new addon .. can i use the wowace svn? .. where should i upload it so it is not visible in WAU until its basicly finished ... sry about my bad english i'm german |
| 03:09.51 | Kivin | Pernicius: You may request SVN access |
| 03:10.09 | Stan_ | and commit to branches until it is finished |
| 03:10.10 | Kivin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 03:10.14 | Stan_ | wau only updates from trunk |
| 03:11.10 | Paradoxmas | khangg: cartographer is a buggy POS, don't waste your time with it |
| 03:11.18 | Kivin | carto works perfectly fine for me |
| 03:11.19 | khangg | alternatives? |
| 03:11.24 | Funkeh` | PoS? |
| 03:13.01 | khangg | piece of shit |
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| 03:13.19 | Funkeh` | cartographer is a buggy piece of shit? |
| 03:13.37 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:13.39 | Funkeh` | k |
| 03:13.45 | Kivin | Works perfectly great for me |
| 03:13.53 | Funkeh` | shittest acronym i've seen in a while |
| 03:14.08 | khangg | i just /rl and the errors didn't appear again |
| 03:14.20 | Kivin | problem solved |
| 03:14.23 | khangg | although, how do i make it whne i /tloc it shows the place i marked on the main map? |
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| 03:23.05 | Lukian | khangg, tloc is a thottbot command :p |
| 03:23.18 | khangg | it works with carto |
| 03:23.25 | khangg | an arrow pops up showing the place i marked |
| 03:23.32 | Lukian | haha cool |
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| 03:46.24 | Hotphoenix | found a bug with arkinventory, bound a key to 'open all bags' and it wouldn't close when pressing that key while 'toggle backpack' worked fine |
| 03:47.08 | Xinhuan | doesn't sound like a bug |
| 03:47.18 | Xinhuan | "open all bags" obviously doesn't close any bags ;p |
| 03:47.26 | Hotphoenix | used to |
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| 04:01.16 | khangg | i just use bagnon |
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| 05:02.49 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57474 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: |
| 05:02.49 | CIA-8 | CowTip: Insert a 3-line hack so that Talismonger-3.0 will start recording nodes |
| 05:02.49 | CIA-8 | for Cartographer_Mining/Herbalism/Fishing again when "Hide Immediately" option |
| 05:02.49 | CIA-8 | is used in CowTip_Fade on World Objects or when "Never" or "Out of combat" |
| 05:02.49 | CIA-8 | option is used in CowTip on World Objects for showing tooltips. |
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| 05:20.22 | Xinhuan | ~seen sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:20.57 | purl | sag_ich_nicht <i=bitch2k@85.127.108.140> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 12m 23s ago, saying: 'Xinhuan you taken a look yet?'. |
| 05:20.57 | Xinhuan | ~slap purl |
| 05:21.01 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 05:22.11 | Xinhuan | ~seen i=bitch2k@85.127.108.140 |
| 05:22.12 | purl | i haven't seen 'i=bitch2k@85.127.108.140', Xinhuan |
| 05:22.20 | Xinhuan | dang doesn't work on hostmasks |
| 05:35.54 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r57475 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 05:35.54 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 05:35.54 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:53.43 | Kivin | Is there an addon I can use to see which of my addons are taking a large amount of CPU clocks, RAM, or causing frequent garbage collection? |
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| 06:00.36 | Xinhuan | yes, but such addons also use CPu in itself |
| 06:00.42 | Xinhuan | to track such things |
| 06:00.57 | Xinhuan | especially if you use an Ace2 one, it causes ace2 library usage to shoot up while tracking |
| 06:01.10 | Xinhuan | most people use PerformaceFu, some use UsageFu |
| 06:01.23 | Xinhuan | but there is one or two non-ace ones that are better for this purpose |
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| 06:01.59 | Orionshock_ | Kivin: option house does this |
| 06:02.28 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 06:17.33 | Kivin | I'll give those a shot, thank you |
| 06:17.45 | Kivin | Getting a lot of spikey FPS |
| 06:19.04 | Kivin | God... TrinityBars has such a good thing going for it, but it has so many weird and stupid bugs |
| 06:23.36 | Orionshock_ | Nargiddley: ping --- the the TreeGroup Widget, was there at one point the ability to move the center divider to resize the left hand list? or should i request it via jira/ |
| 06:24.35 | Nargiddley | that has never been there, and wont be unless you have a really good reason |
| 06:25.02 | Xinhuan | i figured out what sag_ich_nicht's problem is with CooldownTimers2 |
| 06:25.13 | Orionshock_ | some option names are longer than others... might not fit. |
| 06:25.22 | Nargiddley | so make them smaller |
| 06:25.23 | Xinhuan | he has a corrupted SV file, so it fails to load, so :OnEnable() fails to fire for the addon |
| 06:25.29 | Orionshock_ | lol |
| 06:25.34 | Xinhuan | but everything else about the addon works |
| 06:26.02 | Xinhuan | but because there is no specific error when loading the addon, no errors are thrown |
| 06:26.58 | kergoth | heh, i ran into that sort of problem a lot a while back... never let the disk you run wow on run out of space |
| 06:37.09 | Kivin | holy horseshit, TrinityBars makes a big savedvar file... for a bar mod. 700kb |
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| 06:55.07 | Orionshock_ | Xinhuan: you know that idea i had about a "game tooltip" widget ? i found another method that i would believe works better.... |
| 06:55.24 | Xinhuan | i have no idea why you need such a widget |
| 06:55.33 | Xinhuan | so telling me about it isn't useful unless i know the purpose |
| 06:55.49 | Orionshock_ | to display craft links |
| 06:56.03 | Xinhuan | GameTooltip displays it fine |
| 06:56.27 | Xinhuan | you're being exceptionally vague today |
| 06:56.39 | Orionshock_ | :D |
| 06:56.46 | Orionshock_ | what can i say im crasy |
| 06:56.53 | Orionshock_ | *crazy |
| 06:57.07 | Nargiddley | I dont see the point of a widget either btw :P |
| 06:57.48 | Orionshock_ | right.. not the point anymore, i came to realize very fast that >I< was not going to be able to fathom how to make it, nor convince any one that could to do so... |
| 06:58.23 | Orionshock_ | so instead i just use the ItemRefTooltip |
| 06:58.26 | Nargiddley | the widgets pretty much all fire OnEnter and OnLeave, you can just show a tooltip then |
| 06:59.00 | Orionshock_ | Nargiddley: i want a static tool tip to display on click of an item, that way you can look at it :P |
| 06:59.28 | Nargiddley | ah |
| 06:59.31 | Nargiddley | same diff |
| 06:59.37 | Orionshock_ | ... |
| 06:59.42 | Nargiddley | its still not part of the layout do its not a widget ;P |
| 07:00.20 | Orionshock_ | right.. got around it by just opening up the ItemRefTooltip in the right spot |
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| 07:03.55 | CIA-8 | 03ggcall * r57476 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 07:03.55 | CIA-8 | StatLogicLib: |
| 07:03.55 | CIA-8 | - patch zhCN spell string |
| 07:06.17 | Xinhuan | you should not use ItemRefTooltip |
| 07:06.48 | Xinhuan | you should create your own CreateFrame("GameTooltip") and use that one |
| 07:07.33 | Orionshock_ | Xinhuan: why not, im opening the tool tip the same /exact way/ the default UI does |
| 07:07.55 | Xinhuan | could have side effects |
| 07:08.08 | Xinhuan | i dont' know what you're using the tooltip for |
| 07:08.42 | Xinhuan | if i moved ItemRefTooltip to a particular position on my screen |
| 07:08.49 | Nargiddley | 'in the right spot' sounds like its not the exact same way |
| 07:08.51 | Xinhuan | i don't want other addons to be moving that ItemReftooltip |
| 07:10.14 | Orionshock_ | Xinhuan: you make a sound point, but at this time im willing to take that /risk/, i'll add in plans to make my own. |
| 07:10.38 | Xinhuan | it is not difficult to make your own |
| 07:10.47 | Xinhuan | just copy the entire ItemRefTooltip.xml |
| 07:10.50 | Xinhuan | and rename the frame |
| 07:10.55 | Xinhuan | OrionRefTooltip |
| 07:11.31 | Xinhuan | its ItemRef.xml heh |
| 07:12.00 | Orionshock_ | lol, i could even remove the close button... |
| 07:12.10 | Orionshock_ | disable mouse enabled() |
| 07:12.51 | Orionshock_ | meh... i've got other problems to worry and UnFook before i worry bout that.. |
| 07:13.39 | Xinhuan | when writing a mod, a goal should be that the mod should not interfere or cause side effects with other mods if possible ;p |
| 07:14.09 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.33 | Xinhuan | "designed to do so" is not "cause side effects" |
| 07:15.04 | Xinhuan | "side effects" specifically refers to something that happened that isn't designed to happen ;p |
| 07:15.48 | Xinhuan | for eg, in CowTip, it performs a :Hide() on GameTooltip in its OnShow hook if the options is set to immediately hide it |
| 07:16.06 | Xinhuan | this has the side effect of causing all mining/herbing nodes not to get recorded in _Mining/_Herbing |
| 07:16.24 | Xinhuan | because they read the gametooltip's line 1 to get the name of the object being harvested |
| 07:16.48 | Xinhuan | that is a sideeffect ;p |
| 07:17.15 | Fin | I'm not sure if I agree with that Xinhuan, side effects can be part of a design if they're known about. but, that's a teensy tiny pedantic point. |
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| 07:17.36 | Xinhuan | fin, its not a side effect if its intended ;p |
| 07:18.00 | Fin | whether it's intended or not doesn't mean it can't be part of something's design. |
| 07:18.18 | Fin | I don't care enough to argue my point :) |
| 07:18.22 | Xinhuan | well if its intended, then it can't be a sideeffect! |
| 07:18.50 | Fin | I think it's semantics |
| 07:19.00 | Guillotine | I can't find where Cartographer_Waypoints.AddLHWaypoint is declared :( boo |
| 07:19.09 | Xinhuan | what you consider "intended" may not be what someone else thinks as "intended" |
| 07:19.23 | Fin | I mean, let's say I was designing a car. |
| 07:19.31 | Fin | and this car used a particular type of fuel |
| 07:19.51 | Fin | the fuel is also nicer to the environment |
| 07:19.52 | Orionshock_ | Guillotine: /print issecurevariable("Cartographer_Waypoints.AddLHWaypoint") |
| 07:20.02 | Fin | it's a side effect, but it's not unintended? |
| 07:20.20 | Xinhuan | that's a direct effect |
| 07:20.32 | Fin | uhm, so are all side effects |
| 07:20.39 | Guillotine | Orionshock_: how does that help? |
| 07:21.02 | Orionshock_ | it should tell you who owns the table, thus you'll know what addon to go hunting for |
| 07:21.07 | Fin | if you mean that they directly affect something? |
| 07:21.53 | Xinhuan | consider this, you eat medication to make your flu get better. however, as a side effect, you may feel drowsiness |
| 07:22.03 | Xinhuan | the drowsiness is unintended |
| 07:23.24 | Fin | basically you mean that anything negative is an unintended side effect, and anything positive is a direct effect? |
| 07:23.39 | Xinhuan | side effects can be positive or negative heh |
| 07:23.40 | Fin | the drowsiness is a direct effect of taking the medicine |
| 07:23.57 | Xinhuan | i could say a side effect is that taking the medication reduces your chances of getting cancer |
| 07:23.59 | Xinhuan | its not intended |
| 07:24.01 | Guillotine | Orionshock_: It doesn't work on table members. only on the tables themselves |
| 07:24.13 | Fin | well, that's just like my example, I would've said |
| 07:24.37 | Orionshock_ | Guillotine: ... |
| 07:24.49 | Guillotine | Orionshock_: what? |
| 07:24.52 | Fin | honestly, sorry, I didn't mean to make this a big thing |
| 07:24.56 | Orionshock_ | it's for light headed to add a waypoint right? |
| 07:25.00 | Guillotine | yes |
| 07:25.02 | Fin | I shall admit you are right and we can carry on with our lives :) |
| 07:25.09 | Guillotine | but it is not declared in either LH or Cart_Waypoints |
| 07:25.16 | Orionshock_ | ... obvious question: you looked in LH? |
| 07:25.21 | Guillotine | yes :) |
| 07:25.32 | Orionshock_ | ask clad when he comes online... |
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| 07:26.03 | Guillotine | yah, looks like thats going to be what I'm going to have to do :( |
| 07:29.26 | Guillotine | ah, I found it |
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| 07:33.32 | Orionshock_ | ... next step... convert global table calls to local table calls... -.- |
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| 07:39.56 | Orionshock_ | if you nil all of the keys of a table, does it nil the table? |
| 07:41.28 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 07:41.31 | Xinhuan | it is still a table |
| 07:41.37 | Xinhuan | just has 0 entries in it |
| 07:41.47 | Xinhuan | an empty table still uses 40 bytes of memory |
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| 07:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mornin |
| 07:55.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan are you there? |
| 07:55.20 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:55.26 | sag_ich_nicht | did you check it out? :X |
| 07:55.29 | Xinhuan | i've discovered the issue with your problem |
| 07:55.33 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 07:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | that's great |
| 07:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the problem |
| 07:55.45 | Xinhuan | CooldownTimers2 has no problems. |
| 07:55.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ...and can you fix it? :O |
| 07:55.49 | sag_ich_nicht | but? |
| 07:56.18 | Xinhuan | your wtf\accounts\(accountname)\SavedVariables\CooldownTimers2.lua file is corrupted |
| 07:56.23 | Xinhuan | hence everything loads |
| 07:56.28 | Xinhuan | but when it loads your SV file |
| 07:56.30 | Xinhuan | it fails |
| 07:56.41 | Xinhuan | and :OnEnable() doesn't fire for your addon |
| 07:56.56 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't create CooldownTimers.announce and many other objects |
| 07:57.01 | sag_ich_nicht | after applying the patch by bigzero, i presume? |
| 07:57.10 | Xinhuan | bigzero's patch was unnecessary |
| 07:57.16 | Xinhuan | there is nothing wrong with the addon in the first place |
| 07:57.27 | Xinhuan | i did not even touch or download bigzero's patch |
| 07:57.42 | Xinhuan | and so your options.lua and menu.lua errors because :OnEnable() didn't fire |
| 07:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | look, i am going to uninstall it now, and delete the savedvars file. then i'm going to login. then i will get an error message. |
| 07:58.08 | sag_ich_nicht | because that is what happened the first time i EVER installed it. |
| 07:58.23 | Xinhuan | i installed CDT2 used it for 2 hours and encountered 0 issues and errors |
| 07:58.26 | sag_ich_nicht | +reinstall it, of course |
| 07:58.29 | Xinhuan | directly using WAU |
| 07:58.42 | Xinhuan | also relogged at least 5 times, on 2 characters |
| 07:58.47 | sag_ich_nicht | weird |
| 07:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 07:59.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: if this is very slowly working up to a massive insult to his intelligence, i approve. |
| 07:59.09 | Xinhuan | if your SV file is corrupted, no errors are generated |
| 07:59.24 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 07:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane: nope, because i know there is something broken with it, hold :P |
| 07:59.51 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: that doesn't mean we can't insult your intelligence, stop. |
| 08:00.57 | sag_ich_nicht | deleted the saved vars |
| 08:01.00 | sag_ich_nicht | installing CDT2 |
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| 08:05.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: http://pastey.net/79601 |
| 08:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that's with a fresh install |
| 08:05.22 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
| 08:05.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you are probably going to blame Ace2Khaos |
| 08:05.42 | Xinhuan | so try disabling ace2khaos? |
| 08:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | but Ace2Khaos only errors if an addon is implementing the AceOptions table wrong |
| 08:06.02 | Xinhuan | i repeat, i found nothing wrong with the aceopt table |
| 08:06.09 | Xinhuan | every menu and option worked perfectly fine |
| 08:06.37 | Xinhuan | those values and variables ace2 khaos found missing do not exist until :OnEnable() is fired |
| 08:07.26 | sag_ich_nicht | well, why does OnEnable fire for every single other addon i'm using then except for CDT2 before that |
| 08:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | there's something fishy there |
| 08:07.43 | Xinhuan | because CDT only creates the announce objects on enabling |
| 08:08.16 | Xinhuan | ace2khaos is probably checking your aceopt table BEFORE player_login fired |
| 08:08.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, not from what i know, but lemme check the code... |
| 08:08.56 | Xinhuan | how about you disable ace2khaos as i suggested |
| 08:12.18 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: so when I add a new route and simply if typically it ends up being unoptimized and when I try to recalculate it fails. have to delete and readd |
| 08:12.20 | Gnarfoz | he couldn't blame random people for his problems anymore then ^^ |
| 08:12.28 | NeoTron | does it have issues if you mine while adding a mine rout perhaps? |
| 08:12.39 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 08:13.05 | Xinhuan | english please |
| 08:13.08 | NeoTron | TSP.lua:275 attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a nil value) |
| 08:13.11 | NeoTron | it is broken |
| 08:13.16 | NeoTron | how's that for English |
| 08:13.19 | Xinhuan | read what you typed |
| 08:13.26 | Gnarfoz | 'it ends up unoptimized'? |
| 08:13.27 | NeoTron | I add a route, get lines all over. simply if and still have lines all over |
| 08:13.27 | Xinhuan | i can't understand it |
| 08:13.41 | Xinhuan | what is "simply if an still" |
| 08:13.53 | Gnarfoz | "simplify it and still" |
| 08:13.54 | Gnarfoz | I guess |
| 08:13.56 | NeoTron | ever heard of "optimize route"? |
| 08:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i know it won't SHOW the messages then, but the last time i used CDT2 it just stopped working after a few hours after a relog, and even before that, it just wouldn't for the hell of it save some settings |
| 08:14.01 | NeoTron | it doesn't actually fix it |
| 08:14.13 | NeoTron | it remains lines between all nodes or whatever the default is |
| 08:14.29 | Xinhuan | no, you're not describing what is happening |
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| 08:14.50 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: error messages show errors. everything else might just be stupidness in the code... which would likely have nothing to do with an Options table |
| 08:14.52 | Xinhuan | you said "when i add a new route, it typically ends up bring unoptimized" |
| 08:15.05 | NeoTron | yes |
| 08:15.12 | Xinhuan | and that is correct. it doesn't preoptimize a new route |
| 08:15.22 | NeoTron | Reprocude: 1) add new route, 2) click optimize, 3) wait to finish, 4) fail |
| 08:15.34 | Xinhuan | what nodes are you adding |
| 08:15.35 | NeoTron | 4 end result = same result at 1 |
| 08:15.36 | Xinhuan | in which zone |
| 08:15.48 | NeoTron | doesn't seem to matter, happens most of the time |
| 08:15.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: i'm not talking about lua errors, i'm talking about stupidness in the code, and since Ace2Khaos reads the optiontable and screams at the top of it's lungs if something's broken with one, the logical conclusion is that the optionstable must be fsck'd :P |
| 08:16.02 | NeoTron | perhaps because I am actively mining in the zone I just added a mining node run in |
| 08:16.10 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht, except that i have used it over 12 hours now and found 0 errors |
| 08:16.24 | Xinhuan | and i haven't heard anyone else but you complain about said errors |
| 08:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: well that's weird. did you change some of the settings? because i couldn't get some of them to save, lemme see if i can reproduce |
| 08:16.52 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: and... that still wouldn't explain it "stopping to work", except by that you meant the options stop working. also: did you try disabling all your other weird addons by now? ^^ |
| 08:17.23 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: but it does happen a lot |
| 08:17.33 | Moki | what addon are you talking about? |
| 08:17.48 | NeoTron | and trying to reoptimize gets the error I pasted above |
| 08:17.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: where stopping to work=failing to save the settings i give it, thus FAILING in DOING what it SHOULD. |
| 08:18.03 | NeoTron | have you tried adding a route and then farming items in that node in the zone while optimizing? |
| 08:18.15 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: being more precise *could* help, you know |
| 08:18.21 | Xinhuan | you're not supposed to do that neotron |
| 08:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: [09:16] <sag_ich_nicht> Xinhuan: well that's weird. did you change some of the settings? because i couldn't get some of them to save, lemme see if i can reproduce |
| 08:18.50 | NeoTron | you're not supposed to break silently from it either |
| 08:18.52 | NeoTron | it's a valid bug |
| 08:19.02 | Gnarfoz | I still wonder on what kind of machine foreground optimization might actually disconnect you, takes 2 seconds or so for me on the biggest data sets I have |
| 08:19.22 | Xinhuan | how many nodes is your "biggest data set" |
| 08:19.35 | NeoTron | one I was just calculating is 502 nodes |
| 08:19.37 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: get to it then, and try without other addons :P |
| 08:19.39 | NeoTron | not sure about the biggest |
| 08:19.46 | Xinhuan | we're talking about some 500 nodes here as our "big data sets" |
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| 08:19.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: 426 nodes with extra optimization takes 30 to 60 seconds here |
| 08:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | and doesn't give me a disconnect |
| 08:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 08:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ur doin it rong |
| 08:20.17 | sag_ich_nicht | or have one beast of a machine |
| 08:20.23 | Gnarfoz | 60 seconds foreground doesn't disconnect you oO |
| 08:20.51 | Xinhuan | ok NeoTron, can i confirm that this bug only occurs if you are "optimizing" in the background, and you harvest a node in the same zone as the route you are optimizing? |
| 08:21.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: nope |
| 08:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | one took even 73 |
| 08:22.02 | NeoTron | hat seems to be the case |
| 08:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
| 08:22.12 | Gnarfoz | weird, because then it seems wow doesn't get totally locked up and still has time to talk to the server to acknowledge you're still there? |
| 08:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | how big is your biggest dataset Gnarfoz :P |
| 08:22.18 | NeoTron | just block updates on routes being optimized I suppose |
| 08:22.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: i dunno 8D |
| 08:22.43 | NeoTron | I just redid the route w/o mining in the same zone and it worked fine |
| 08:22.44 | Gnarfoz | and no, I'm just using 'regular' node sets, i.e. herbs and ores, of which I have 'full' sets for each zone. which don't really exceed 150 nodes per zone per kind |
| 08:22.53 | NeoTron | I can see how changing the dataset during optimization would create weirdness |
| 08:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: try ores, all, netherstorm. |
| 08:23.00 | sag_ich_nicht | 426 nodes. |
| 08:23.08 | Xinhuan | its weird, because changing the dataset during optimizing shouldn't cause any errors |
| 08:23.19 | Xinhuan | because i already precalculated everything to do with the route sent in |
| 08:23.42 | Xinhuan | this means that if you were to do a forground optimization on the same route while doing a background optimization on it |
| 08:23.45 | Xinhuan | there is no errors |
| 08:24.22 | Gnarfoz | (I'm having a look, but... all, because... khorium is always a rare spawn of something else? why would you include khorium ^^) |
| 08:24.36 | Xinhuan | however, let me look at it again |
| 08:25.06 | Gnarfoz | errm |
| 08:25.22 | Gnarfoz | can't even select "all", which is what my memory told me before I logged in |
| 08:25.34 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 08:25.41 | Gnarfoz | multiple checkmarks! :D |
| 08:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and you try to get MY intelligence insulted, NightHawkTheSane? |
| 08:27.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I try to insult everyone's intelligence |
| 08:28.26 | Ellipsis | edrama? and you didn't invite me? |
| 08:29.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i invite you to go ahead and uh... give me sexual favors. |
| 08:29.59 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, confirm the bug again, it occurs if you try to harvest something while background optimization is progress? |
| 08:30.01 | Xinhuan | or? |
| 08:30.02 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: you will still provide many more opportunities, I am certain of it :p |
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| 08:30.34 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 08:30.53 | Gnarfoz | 09:26:57|Cartographer_Routes: Path with 426 nodes found with length 27428.43 yards after 7 iterations in 56.23 seconds. <- btw (even if that route makes no sense because it includes Khorium) |
| 08:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: you can push that down to below 27k yards |
| 08:32.27 | sag_ich_nicht | way below actually |
| 08:32.58 | Gnarfoz | highly likely, prior experience might even make it certain |
| 08:33.22 | sag_ich_nicht | it does, because i already did it :P |
| 08:34.30 | Gnarfoz | so we can safely say 'ores, all, netherstorm' can be done in 'less than 27k yards' - and that is the truth, because sag_ich_nicht the omniscient said so |
| 08:34.45 | Gnarfoz | I shall proceed and spread the word |
| 08:35.18 | Gnarfoz | (also, I shall get some sleep before I lose what little sanity I have left ^^) |
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| 08:35.55 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, when it errored, did it get caught in bugsack, or did it print the error in the chatbox |
| 08:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:34] <Gnarfoz> so we can safely say 'ores, all, netherstorm' can be done in 'less than 27k yards' - and that is the truth, because sag_ich_nicht the omniscient said so <--correct |
| 08:37.18 | sag_ich_nicht | because i already pushed it below 27k. |
| 08:38.25 | Xinhuan | if you care, you could edit core.lua |
| 08:38.35 | Xinhuan | and tweak the settings for route calculation |
| 08:38.38 | Xinhuan | in the defaults table |
| 08:39.12 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r8219bb059d 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Elwynn_Forest.lua: Elwynn tweaks |
| 08:39.13 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r81e84ba10c 10./TourGuide_Horde/13_20_Ghostlands.lua: Ghostland tweaks |
| 08:39.36 | Gnarfoz | it's the master branch! |
| 08:40.10 | Gnarfoz | I smell git |
| 08:41.28 | Lukian | awesome release numbers |
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| 09:20.59 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:21.04 | Xinhuan | so how goes CDT2 |
| 09:22.07 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57477 10Cartographer_Routes/ (5 files): |
| 09:22.07 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 09:22.07 | CIA-8 | - While background optimizing is in progress, prevent that route from being deleted. |
| 09:22.07 | CIA-8 | - Make a copy of the route table being optimized so that changes to the route while background optimizing is in progress will not cause future nil errors. |
| 09:24.57 | Xinhuan | There Gnarfoz, cncfanatics, sag_ich_nicht, NeoTron and all others where you have this compulsive habit to keep clicking "optimize route", problem FIXED. |
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| 09:26.42 | nevcairiel | dont fix user stupidity :P |
| 09:27.08 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 09:27.20 | Xinhuan | i went to the extent of deleting the route while optimizing is in progress |
| 09:27.38 | Xinhuan | the coroutine returned without errors, but it returned a 0 length route, and wiped out the [source] table |
| 09:28.19 | Xinhuan | since i did not reference the original route table except at the very beginning, and at the very end (top copy the node coord values) |
| 09:28.31 | Xinhuan | to* |
| 09:30.35 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * ra64dec61b5 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (8 files): Adding in Horde 21-23 guides, need testing! |
| 09:32.15 | CIA-8 | 03bhigh * r57478 10PartyToGo/Core.lua: |
| 09:32.15 | CIA-8 | PartyToGo: |
| 09:32.15 | CIA-8 | - Fixed bad variable name in Quixote_Leaderboard_Update() |
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| 09:57.38 | Xinhuan | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 09:57.44 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Routes made headline news |
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| 09:59.52 | Xinhuan | hey Bibi, thanks :D |
| 10:01.46 | cncfanatics | ty Xinhuan :)- |
| 10:02.01 | cncfanatics | oh, and that fix was not user stupidity nevcairiel :) |
| 10:02.08 | cncfanatics | people often optimize their route while mining (imo) |
| 10:02.31 | cncfanatics | Fin, u around ? |
| 10:02.48 | cncfanatics | ~seen Fin |
| 10:02.49 | purl | fin is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 1h 18m 51s) #wowace (2d 1h 18m 51s). Has said a total of 375 messages. Is idling for 2h 37m 47s, last said: 'I shall admit you are right and we can carry on with our lives :)'. |
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| 11:00.09 | [Liquidor] | Woot I just got the movie Stargate - The Ark of Truth (2008) |
| 11:01.35 | JY` | what ? |
| 11:01.42 | JY` | :o |
| 11:03.47 | Xinhuan | ~seen wobin |
| 11:03.49 | purl | wobin <n=wobin@124-171-46-166.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 7h 50m 48s ago, saying: 'appears not =('. |
| 11:05.25 | nevcairiel | meh there are only screeners out there, workprints or something, not worth getting yet |
| 11:05.52 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 11:07.40 | nevcairiel | the leaked stargate movie |
| 11:07.57 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 11:08.04 | nevcairiel | i wont ruin it with a bad quality copy |
| 11:10.45 | nevcairiel | so, when do we get a rock independant routes that works with all map notes? |
| 11:11.01 | nevcairiel | like, the new PinPoint [Ammo] is writing =P |
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| 11:14.32 | Lukian | nevcairiel, when you write it? :p |
| 11:14.45 | Vorda | Hmm,how exactly does cellular hold up compared to prat2? Should I install both or does cellular pretty much replace it? |
| 11:16.22 | Higdur | which is the best leveling spec for a rogue? |
| 11:16.45 | Lukian | Higdur, why ask that in #wowace? |
| 11:16.52 | cncfanatics | Higdur, combat <insert best weapon at your level here> |
| 11:17.14 | Higdur | Lukian: because it was the wowchannel I currently had up :) |
| 11:17.22 | nevcairiel | get combat sword for leveling, daggers is stupid because you cant get behind your mobs anyway |
| 11:17.23 | Lukian | Higdur, hehe :D |
| 11:17.29 | Higdur | cncfanatics: ok, thanks |
| 11:17.57 | Higdur | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 11:18.05 | cncfanatics | indeed swords is most likely |
| 11:18.15 | cncfanatics | but if you find a fist wep better then ur swords go fist :) |
| 11:18.28 | nevcairiel | or a mace =P |
| 11:18.54 | Higdur | quiet a while off :) |
| 11:18.59 | Higdur | since I just started it |
| 11:19.13 | Higdur | and am lvl 10 ;) |
| 11:19.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:20.01 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, maybe if i convert TSP.lua into a TSP-1.0 |
| 11:21.03 | Ozguli- | sword deals more dmg than fist anyway because extra attacks can crit as well |
| 11:21.07 | Xinhuan | TSP.lua still requires libtourist and libbabblezone |
| 11:21.10 | Xinhuan | both are libstubbed |
| 11:21.24 | Xinhuan | since i require the zone width in yards for every zone |
| 11:22.05 | nevcairiel | thats not too bad |
| 11:22.34 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, extra attacks are always regular white hits though ? |
| 11:22.34 | Xinhuan | its not too particularly difficult, but i didn't imagine tsp.lua to be intended for general use by every addon |
| 11:22.39 | Xinhuan | so i didn't make it a library |
| 11:22.45 | Ozguli- | yea |
| 11:22.51 | cncfanatics | as, if you do a 5cp eviscerate and sword spec procs, it'll give an autoattack and not a 5cp eviscerate |
| 11:23.02 | Ozguli- | yea |
| 11:23.05 | Ozguli- | but but... |
| 11:23.07 | cncfanatics | fist spec can make that 5cp evisc crit, which is more dmg then a crit autoattack |
| 11:23.07 | Ozguli- | well |
| 11:23.22 | Ozguli- | 50-65% of my dmg comes from white hits o.O |
| 11:23.31 | cncfanatics | I know I know, just making a point |
| 11:23.41 | Ozguli- | depends what you want |
| 11:23.44 | cncfanatics | fist & swords are pretty much equivalent, advantages & disadvantages make em pretty even imo |
| 11:23.56 | thul | who uses evisc anyway |
| 11:24.04 | Ozguli- | everyone |
| 11:24.08 | cncfanatics | all rogues ? |
| 11:24.24 | cncfanatics | try not using eviscerate in karazhan :p |
| 11:24.31 | Ozguli- | ehehee |
| 11:24.31 | thul | erhm? |
| 11:24.37 | thul | if you use evisc in pve, you fail |
| 11:24.38 | nevcairiel | no real rogue uses evisc |
| 11:24.38 | thul | end of story |
| 11:24.43 | cncfanatics | ehm, bleed immune ? |
| 11:24.48 | cncfanatics | EVERYTHING in kara is bleed immune |
| 11:24.50 | cncfanatics | get a clue |
| 11:25.06 | Ozguli- | and you must use evis anyway if you have both snd and rupture ticking |
| 11:25.07 | cncfanatics | what you gonna use except evisc ? |
| 11:25.07 | nevcairiel | what do i care for kara, i've been done with that instance for 8 month now =P |
| 11:25.25 | cncfanatics | Ozguli-, if the mob is bleed immune i'd usualy just wait till either falls off |
| 11:25.34 | cncfanatics | that'll be before my energy is full anyway |
| 11:25.40 | cncfanatics | not bleed immune* |
| 11:25.46 | thul | use envenom |
| 11:25.51 | thul | do _not_ use evisc |
| 11:25.51 | thul | ever |
| 11:25.54 | thul | _ever_ |
| 11:25.57 | cncfanatics | thul, idiot |
| 11:26.01 | thul | "idiot" |
| 11:26.12 | thul | evisc sucks, get over it |
| 11:26.13 | cncfanatics | evisc is more dmg then envenom when the mob is not about to die because it doesn't eat up your poison dot |
| 11:26.14 | Ozguli- | eviscerate isn't really that bad |
| 11:26.19 | thul | yes it is |
| 11:26.24 | cncfanatics | then WHY use envenom ? |
| 11:26.28 | thul | other than that, most bosses in kara is not bleed immune |
| 11:26.29 | Ozguli- | solo grinding? |
| 11:26.31 | Ozguli- | motes? |
| 11:26.36 | thul | and who cares about trash |
| 11:26.54 | cncfanatics | you say evisc is pve is fail, I say rogues use it quite often |
| 11:27.00 | cncfanatics | just getting my point across ;) |
| 11:27.07 | thul | and > rupture > envenom> evisc |
| 11:27.10 | nevcairiel | meh your poison should be up fast enough again, dont worry about it being gone |
| 11:27.25 | thul | people like britney spears too, but she is still fail |
| 11:27.26 | cncfanatics | ehm, nevcairiel, you lose more dmg then you gain by using envenom & letting the poison tick again |
| 11:27.35 | cncfanatics | stack up again* |
| 11:27.37 | thul | people using a skill doesen't make it worthwhile. |
| 11:27.50 | cncfanatics | thul, what else are you going to use on bleed immune mobs then ? |
| 11:27.52 | Ozguli- | 5 doses, you'd need shiv for that |
| 11:27.59 | cncfanatics | and shiv is a royal waste of dmg :p |
| 11:28.04 | Ozguli- | shiv shiv shiv shiv shiv envenom? |
| 11:28.08 | thul | 5snd,3envenom,5snd,3,envenom |
| 11:28.16 | cncfanatics | thats a waste ozglu |
| 11:28.21 | cncfanatics | 5s,3evisc will do more dmg |
| 11:28.25 | cncfanatics | because your deadly psn can actualy tick |
| 11:28.26 | thul | hadly |
| 11:28.27 | thul | hardly |
| 11:28.33 | cncfanatics | still more, hardly or not |
| 11:28.36 | thul | no |
| 11:28.38 | thul | hardly = no |
| 11:28.39 | thul | it dosen't |
| 11:28.41 | cncfanatics | go calculate it |
| 11:28.46 | thul | have done |
| 11:28.51 | thul | armor = evisc fails. |
| 11:28.52 | cncfanatics | or just read the EJ posts, they already calculated it |
| 11:28.54 | thul | envenom = no armor. |
| 11:29.00 | thul | envenom + 20 % from talents |
| 11:29.03 | thul | = envenom wins. |
| 11:29.10 | cncfanatics | yea, and deadly poison doesn't do dmg at all when using evisc ... |
| 11:29.11 | thul | yes, DO read EJ about it. |
| 11:29.12 | Ozguli- | sunders? |
| 11:29.13 | cncfanatics | its ticking too |
| 11:29.30 | Ozguli- | or with a drood tank and lots of melee dps I might even use EXPOSE ARMOR |
| 11:29.45 | cncfanatics | so might I, its good when there's no sunder around |
| 11:30.00 | Vorda | "lots of melee dps" but no dps warrior? |
| 11:30.17 | thul | how much does max sunder hit for? |
| 11:30.17 | Ozguli- | hunters count as melee |
| 11:30.23 | thul | (decrease) |
| 11:30.32 | Ozguli- | less than improved expose armor I think |
| 11:30.39 | thul | i think so too |
| 11:30.41 | cncfanatics | who has expose armor improved ? :p |
| 11:31.05 | thul | even so, if you have mutilate/combat-build, I would even do KS before evisc |
| 11:31.13 | thul | (on bleed immune trash) |
| 11:31.33 | cncfanatics | for the recordx |
| 11:31.35 | cncfanatics | from EJ |
| 11:31.35 | Vorda | you would stun trash? Poor warriors |
| 11:31.36 | cncfanatics | On Envenom: Envenom damage is not mitigated by armor, and can be boosted by Stormstrike, Misery (shadow priest debuff), and Vile Poisons. However, in all but the most favorable circumstances (for example, extremely high crit, T5 2pc, RED, 5/5 Vile, Stormstrike and Misery both up), Envenom's DPE will be inferior to Rupture. The more apt comparison to make is Envenom versus Eviscerate. At 5 CP and untalented (talents can boost bot |
| 11:31.50 | cncfanatics | now, gtfo :) |
| 11:32.07 | nevcairiel | i dont get your point from that half-quote |
| 11:32.08 | Vorda | we missed the interesting part |
| 11:32.17 | cncfanatics | "However, for other builds, if you must choose between Eviscerate and Envenom, choose Eviscerate." will do |
| 11:32.48 | thul | for other builds, |
| 11:32.48 | thul | [12:31:00] < thul> envenom + 20 % from talents |
| 11:32.48 | thul | l2read. |
| 11:32.48 | Vorda | anyway, if you'r running with mutilate |
| 11:32.49 | cncfanatics | I'm talking combat here |
| 11:32.51 | Vorda | you'r gimping yourself, so a dps discussion is useless |
| 11:32.59 | cncfanatics | combat evisc > envenom |
| 11:33.00 | thul | Vorda: yes, I would stun trash, beacause +9% damage from all sources. |
| 11:33.06 | Vorda | if you want to discuss dps, go combat. |
| 11:33.27 | thul | well, I raid as hemo/combat and out-dps my combat/sword mates.. :-) |
| 11:33.31 | nevcairiel | discussing dps on trash is stupid anyway |
| 11:33.35 | Vorda | for now |
| 11:33.37 | cncfanatics | then they suck or you outgear them |
| 11:33.42 | thul | nopes |
| 11:33.42 | nevcairiel | focus on boss dps ffs |
| 11:33.44 | Ozguli- | hemo is cool atm |
| 11:33.45 | Vorda | you wont in either t6 content or in 2.3.2 |
| 11:33.47 | thul | I infact have less gear than them |
| 11:33.52 | cncfanatics | then they suck |
| 11:33.58 | Vorda | what content are you talking about? |
| 11:33.58 | thul | or I'm brilliant |
| 11:34.01 | thul | I'll go for the last |
| 11:34.05 | thul | Vorda: za, gruul. |
| 11:34.05 | Vorda | t4? |
| 11:34.15 | Vorda | yeah, hemo scales better pre t6 |
| 11:34.19 | Vorda | (till 2.3.2) |
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| 11:36.54 | thul | well, I hate hemo-nerfing |
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| 11:36.56 | thul | useless |
| 11:38.15 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZhfV0bVzxzZeMj00hMo ftw |
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| 11:47.46 | Neebler | uhhh no |
| 11:47.57 | Neebler | that's ass |
| 11:48.14 | thul | pfft |
| 11:48.19 | thul | that rocks. |
| 11:48.30 | Neebler | whatever, enjoy your 1700 rating |
| 11:48.54 | thul | hmm, what the *"#% had that comment to do with anything? :-P |
| 11:49.11 | Neebler | it means if you think that talent build is good. then you're more than likely bad |
| 11:49.20 | thul | ... |
| 11:49.22 | thul | and what has arena with that to do? |
| 11:49.26 | thul | since I use that for pve :-) |
| 11:49.32 | thul | (or pve/pvp hybrid) |
| 11:49.45 | thul | if I wanted an arena build, I would go mutilate |
| 11:49.58 | thul | if i wanted a hardcore pve build, I would most likely go combat swords |
| 11:50.07 | thul | but then i couldn't grind, pve AND pvp with the same build. |
| 11:50.15 | thul | so, dear Neebler, read, think, comment |
| 11:50.20 | thul | read -> comment seldom works out |
| 11:53.31 | Vulcanus | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhg0oLZhbEz0VzxMGotx <-- my PvP-sort-of build (Combat Swords). |
| 11:53.45 | Vulcanus | err |
| 11:53.59 | Vulcanus | just swap the dodge talents into imp. SS |
| 11:54.13 | Vulcanus | (didnt start it from scratch on the calculator :p) |
| 11:59.48 | Vorda | so both of you would go arena without maces? |
| 11:59.57 | Vorda | or AR prep |
| 12:00.27 | Vorda | give your battlegroup tbh.. |
| 12:00.41 | Hey-WTF | AR/prep is getting nerfed next patch |
| 12:01.01 | Vorda | doesnt help me this patch :) |
| 12:01.01 | Thelyna | and isn't mutilate kind of badly affected by resilience? |
| 12:12.06 | AKX | Would a Finnish mirror be needed for files.wowace.com? |
| 12:15.32 | sag_ich_nicht | needed not, but i guess it would be appreciated. |
| 12:17.03 | AKX | Well, I could set it up on a server with 100/100. |
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| 12:20.39 | cncfanatics | AKX, thats something you should ask to Kaelten |
| 12:20.52 | AKX | Yeah, I guess. |
| 12:21.26 | cncfanatics | oh, and waiting for a kernel compilation to end is boring btw |
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| 12:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | should have added more verbose flags then |
| 12:27.12 | Thelyna | anyone remember offhand where Antiarc's armory tools are located? |
| 12:27.19 | Thelyna | s/located/hosted |
| 12:27.34 | Thelyna | never mind, found them |
| 12:27.38 | ramoz | mmo-champion |
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| 12:30.24 | thul | ar = fear |
| 12:30.31 | thul | prep, second ar= new fear |
| 12:30.33 | thul | vaste of points |
| 12:30.35 | thul | :-( |
| 12:30.52 | thul | they should make using daggers remove 200 resilience or something |
| 12:30.59 | thul | and make mutilate not positioning required. |
| 12:32.49 | Provus | Woo someone uploaded MagicTrack to filefront. |
| 12:33.04 | Provus | At last. |
| 12:36.06 | thul | satan |
| 12:36.10 | Thelyna | Antiarc: no Scale of the Sands rep in your reputation armory widget? |
| 12:39.39 | thul | let us dyppe løken |
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| 12:42.05 | Omni_ | Could anyone tell me if the '/in' command is created by Ace or some other addon? |
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| 12:51.30 | vhaarr | Omni_: AceEvent-2.0 |
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| 12:54.02 | Omni_ | Thanks.. Is that an addon I'd generally find embedded in something else? |
| 12:54.22 | Xinhuan | where's wobin |
| 12:54.31 | Xinhuan | there is a bug in _Waypoints |
| 12:54.47 | Xinhuan | the "WaypointHit" event is never dispatched/triggered due to this bug |
| 12:55.30 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: just fix it |
| 12:55.43 | vhaarr | Omni_: it's a library that you generally find embedded in all Ace2 addons |
| 12:55.46 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure whether its intended, there is a lot of code in there that is entirely pointless |
| 12:55.56 | Xinhuan | such as setting the value of a local, just before "return" |
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| 12:56.28 | Xinhuan | line 938 is such an example |
| 12:56.30 | vhaarr | wobin is always on crack, I'd do what I wanted and ask for forgiveness later |
| 12:56.50 | Xinhuan | can you look at the code and confirm with me that i'm not on crack? |
| 12:56.55 | Xinhuan | that the event never get fired |
| 12:57.05 | vhaarr | only through the svn http interface, so line numbers are useless |
| 12:57.18 | Xinhuan | that's fine |
| 12:57.22 | Xinhuan | go to Waypoints.lua |
| 12:57.32 | Xinhuan | search for the word "WaypointHit" |
| 12:57.44 | Xinhuan | it should be on a line that says self:DispatchEvent("WaypointHit",waypoint) |
| 12:58.04 | Xinhuan | now look at the IF-then-else condition just above it |
| 12:58.21 | Xinhuan | only way for it to dispatch the event, is if #Queue == 0 correct? |
| 12:58.24 | MoonWolf | sooo, who is planning on redoing recount for 2.4 ? |
| 12:58.35 | vhaarr | right, WaypointHit is probably the event for "you've reached your final waypoint" |
| 12:58.51 | Xinhuan | now scroll up a few lines in the function |
| 12:58.57 | Xinhuan | local waypoint = #Queue and Queue[1] or nil |
| 12:59.03 | Xinhuan | is the declaration at the top of the function |
| 12:59.20 | Xinhuan | if not waypoint then ... return |
| 12:59.30 | Xinhuan | so if #queue == 0 |
| 12:59.34 | Xinhuan | then the function won't even execute |
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| 12:59.47 | Xinhuan | it returns before even reaching that point? |
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| 13:00.09 | vhaarr | yeah but when you reach your final waypoint, #Queue is 1 |
| 13:00.16 | vhaarr | so it should trigger the event |
| 13:00.34 | Xinhuan | it does not |
| 13:00.38 | Xinhuan | because it performs PopQueue():Cancel() |
| 13:00.47 | Xinhuan | and does a return |
| 13:00.53 | vhaarr | oh right |
| 13:01.10 | Xinhuan | i believe its supposed to fire the event on hitting every waypoint |
| 13:01.13 | Xinhuan | and not just the final one |
| 13:01.31 | vhaarr | does anything in Cartographer listen to the event? |
| 13:01.32 | Xinhuan | this is fixed by moving the if-then-else below the eventtriggering/dispatching |
| 13:01.39 | vhaarr | are there any docs on the wiki for it? |
| 13:01.45 | Xinhuan | i'll do a text search on the entire addons folder |
| 13:01.50 | vhaarr | if the answer to both those questions is "no", then do whatever you want |
| 13:02.33 | Xinhuan | i don't know how many addons use that event, if any at all |
| 13:02.38 | Xinhuan | do you use Lightheaded? |
| 13:02.40 | Xinhuan | i don't |
| 13:02.50 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: and while you're at it, get rid of that fucking "Clearing up queue" message it prints 24/7 |
| 13:02.59 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I do, but I'm not at home, I'm at my parents house for christmas |
| 13:03.14 | vhaarr | on a 6-year old laptop that has a floppy disk drive |
| 13:03.39 | vhaarr | 128mb ram |
| 13:03.41 | vhaarr | pwn |
| 13:03.52 | Xinhuan | if i grep for that event on LH, do you find it? |
| 13:04.04 | Xinhuan | nvm! |
| 13:04.13 | vhaarr | that question makes no sense :P |
| 13:04.24 | Xinhuan | i just want to know if LH uses that event |
| 13:04.34 | vhaarr | download it and see |
| 13:04.40 | vhaarr | should check tourguide as well I guess |
| 13:04.51 | Xinhuan | do you know where they are hosted |
| 13:05.03 | vhaarr | lightheaded doesn't have a public repo at the moment |
| 13:05.07 | vhaarr | it's too big for gcode |
| 13:05.09 | vhaarr | so wowinterface.com |
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| 13:05.57 | Xinhuan | wow 5.3 mb zip |
| 13:06.11 | vhaarr | http://git.kergoth.com/wow/TourGuide/ |
| 13:06.35 | nevcairiel | why should LH use that event? It only forwards the coordinates to Carto or TomTom |
| 13:06.36 | vhaarr | git://git.kergoth.com/wow/TourGuide.git/ is the git clone URL |
| 13:06.45 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: indeed, it shouldn't |
| 13:06.54 | vhaarr | but how much work is it to check |
| 13:06.57 | Xinhuan | i dont' know nevcairiel, i was debugging routes possibly using waypoints and noted that event NEVER fires |
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| 13:08.09 | nevcairiel | heh, Carto_Waypoints even has a :AddLHWaypoint direct interface for it =P |
| 13:08.20 | Xinhuan | i noted that, it was added by wobin |
| 13:09.29 | Xinhuan | alright, a quick search of all the files in Tourguide and LH |
| 13:09.37 | Xinhuan | the string "WaypointHit" is not found |
| 13:10.19 | CIA-8 | 03fin * r57479 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Fading.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Fading.lua: replaced SetFadeDuration() with SetTimeVisible() - thanks to fawx for reporting this via the Google Group |
| 13:10.26 | nevcairiel | did you slap the wobster about it? |
| 13:10.26 | sb | morning |
| 13:10.38 | sb | it's over... finally %-) |
| 13:11.17 | Xinhuan | ~seen wobin |
| 13:11.46 | purl | wobin <n=wobin@124-171-46-166.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 9h 58m 45s ago, saying: 'appears not =('. |
| 13:11.47 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 13:11.47 | purl | nevcairiel: :) |
| 13:11.47 | Xinhuan | seeing as i just discovered this bug 20 min ago, i'll say no |
| 13:11.56 | nevcairiel | guess he is off for the holidays |
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| 13:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: just fix it and flame him later |
| 13:14.08 | sag_ich_nicht | (didn't login yet, so no reproduction yet btw. :P) |
| 13:14.40 | Polarina | I have been able to fix bugs without reproducing them. |
| 13:15.26 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht's bug is one that only he himself experienced ;p |
| 13:16.36 | Pkekyo| | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 13:16.37 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 110 messages. Is idling for 4m 41s, last said: 'guess he is off for the holidays'. |
| 13:16.45 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 13:16.46 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 13:16.54 | Pkekyo| | any way to get a bartender bar to hide unless a modifier is pressed? |
| 13:17.26 | Omni_ | you could have an empty bar that changes to a bar with something on it |
| 13:17.33 | Omni_ | but the empty frame is still there |
| 13:17.39 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: yes |
| 13:17.45 | Pkekyo| | yeah, that'd kinda defeat the purpose Omni_ |
| 13:17.55 | Omni_ | I know, I tried doing that >< |
| 13:18.05 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: mind guiding me to the options for it? can't find it... |
| 13:18.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:15] <Xinhuan> sag_ich_nicht's bug is one that only he himself experienced ;p <--i will prove that i am right |
| 13:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just you wait |
| 13:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 13:18.25 | Gngsk | haste, <3 |
| 13:18.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 13:18.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 13:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 13:18.57 | sag_ich_nicht | is it possible to "link" the auto hide unless mouseover of multiple bars together? |
| 13:19.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i.e. if i hover over one, show the other as well |
| 13:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (in BT3) |
| 13:19.30 | Gngsk | sag_ich_nicht, you mean like if they've snapped together? |
| 13:20.08 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: hmm .. actually, i dont think that works currently. i must've missed that |
| 13:20.09 | Stanzilla | sounds like the "cluster" feature I requested for BT4 :p |
| 13:20.44 | Pkekyo| | doh :< |
| 13:20.45 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: unless you're a warrior =P |
| 13:20.49 | Pkekyo| | I am |
| 13:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Gngsk: i don't think BT3 has that behaviour for bars snapped to each other atm |
| 13:21.17 | Gngsk | oooh, my mistake then, thought it did. I only use it on my alt |
| 13:21.20 | nevcairiel | then you can do it. set up paging for the bar, there is a "Hide in this Stance" switch in paging |
| 13:21.22 | Pkekyo| | got three bars on top of eachother....would like the upper and lower bars to hide unless ctrl or shift are pressed |
| 13:21.41 | nevcairiel | just setup "hide" for all three stances |
| 13:21.59 | Pkekyo| | that wouldn't give the desired effect though, as I need the abilities on the bars in all stances |
| 13:22.50 | nevcairiel | it wont change the bars, it'll only hide them in the stance, and you can unhide them with the modifier |
| 13:23.07 | nevcairiel | just set the modifier page to 0 .. aka dont page |
| 13:23.24 | nevcairiel | its not intended to be used like that |
| 13:23.26 | nevcairiel | but should work :P |
| 13:23.32 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 13:23.37 | Pkekyo| | how to unhide with modifier then? |
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| 13:24.07 | nevcairiel | just set modifier paging, set it to switch to the page that corresponds to the bar number |
| 13:24.12 | nevcairiel | i think that should unhide =P |
| 13:25.04 | Omni_ | could someone tell me how I would go about using AceEvent:ScheduleEvent? |
| 13:25.15 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: no thats not possible |
| 13:25.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. |
| 13:25.26 | nevcairiel | possibly in BT4 |
| 13:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | any chance for it in BT4 then? :P |
| 13:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | good. |
| 13:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 13:25.54 | Fiskersmas | ~seen sedatedChipmunk |
| 13:25.55 | purl | sedatedchipmunk is currently on #hosernet #wowace, last said: '/msg hyperChipmunk <yourpassword>'. |
| 13:26.23 | nevcairiel | i am still not sure how i'll design the bar alignment and snaping in BT4, so i cant say anything definitive :p |
| 13:26.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: just keep it in mind :P |
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| 13:26.53 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: it actually did work...not perfectly, and rather confusing to set up, but it did work :p |
| 13:26.55 | Pkekyo| | thanks |
| 13:27.06 | nevcairiel | like i said, its not intended usage =P |
| 13:27.10 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: please make snapping optional in bt4 :) |
| 13:27.36 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 13:27.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo| |
| 13:27.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme correct your statement |
| 13:27.55 | [SW]Dodge | how hard would it be making an addon like DUF in ace? i would like to do it but i'm new in making addons and currently i dunno how i should start :D |
| 13:27.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: please get BT4 into existance. |
| 13:28.06 | nevcairiel | its working already |
| 13:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ~pil |
| 13:28.14 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 13:28.14 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 13:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay purl just lags |
| 13:28.43 | [SW]Dodge | mhm thank you :) |
| 13:28.58 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 13:28.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ace |
| 13:28.59 | purl | i guess ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 13:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ace2 |
| 13:29.03 | purl | it has been said that ace2 is twice as superior to you than ace 1! |
| 13:29.13 | sag_ich_nicht | someone remove that lightweight |
| 13:29.15 | sag_ich_nicht | it is a lie. |
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| 13:30.04 | nevcairiel | ~ace3 |
| 13:30.04 | purl | rumour has it, ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
| 13:30.10 | Pkekyo| | how to bind stances to buttons, and not bar placements? |
| 13:30.43 | nevcairiel | eh? |
| 13:31.14 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, wth do you mean ? :o |
| 13:31.45 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: hid my bars like nevcairiel told me to, and now I can't change stances unless pressing the modifier :p |
| 13:31.51 | CIA-8 | 03wt * r57480 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.lua: |
| 13:31.51 | CIA-8 | FreeRefills: |
| 13:31.51 | CIA-8 | - Made default profile to be char again like it was before r53503 (as intended) |
| 13:31.51 | CIA-8 | - Less variable creation at fin's fix |
| 13:31.59 | cncfanatics | meh, use FB for that kind of stuff tbh :o |
| 13:32.05 | Pkekyo| | FB? |
| 13:32.11 | cncfanatics | FlexBar ;) |
| 13:32.20 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 13:32.47 | Ozguli- | flexbar configuration... "AAH COMMANDS" |
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| 13:33.22 | cncfanatics | poor lil lazy bastard :p |
| 13:33.32 | Ozguli- | indeed |
| 13:33.36 | Ozguli- | I use bongos |
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| 13:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics GUI |
| 13:33.54 | sag_ich_nicht | OR GTFO |
| 13:34.00 | cncfanatics | either way, I'm going to rewrite some parts of FB soon & then write a GUI |
| 13:34.04 | Ozguli- | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/priestuinew.jpg |
| 13:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | you better. |
| 13:34.08 | cncfanatics | but before I write a GUI I want the attributes module rewritten |
| 13:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | or i will destroy you. |
| 13:34.18 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, oh noes |
| 13:34.21 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli-: lolswut? |
| 13:34.46 | Ozguli- | what is? |
| 13:35.19 | cncfanatics | Ozguli-, is that bongos ? |
| 13:35.23 | Ozguli- | yes |
| 13:35.27 | cncfanatics | RIP OFF |
| 13:35.37 | cncfanatics | highlights are a total rip off mine :p |
| 13:35.46 | cncfanatics | s/mine/of mine/ |
| 13:35.53 | Ozguli- | paged and stance based |
| 13:37.01 | cncfanatics | either way, I need to reboot to load my new kernel (finaly) |
| 13:37.24 | Ozguli- | healing (without shadowform and friendly target) has 4 buttons and 2 pages |
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| 13:38.09 | Ozguli- | and I look like a clicker |
| 13:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 13:38.48 | sag_ich_nicht | if i was playing a holy paladin |
| 13:39.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i could reduce my interface to 1 button. |
| 13:39.14 | Ozguli- | lol |
| 13:39.24 | Ozguli- | you could hide the damn buttons |
| 13:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 13:39.32 | sag_ich_nicht | need the cooldowns |
| 13:39.35 | sag_ich_nicht | if i could hide them |
| 13:39.37 | Ozguli- | :P |
| 13:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | only if they are NOT on cooldown |
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| 13:39.46 | sag_ich_nicht | with 100% transparency |
| 13:39.48 | sag_ich_nicht | then yes |
| 13:39.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i would |
| 13:39.55 | Ozguli- | the reason why I have some of the stuff visible on my ui |
| 13:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | which is |
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| 13:40.09 | Gngsk | install hourglass, bind keys, hide bars |
| 13:40.13 | sag_ich_nicht | why i want CDT2 working |
| 13:40.13 | Ozguli- | others just so that I know what I'm probably going to cast when pressing a button |
| 13:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 13:40.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Gngsk i'd rather use CDT2 |
| 13:40.38 | Gngsk | w/e same diff |
| 13:40.42 | nevcairiel | so fix it |
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| 13:42.28 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r57481 10BankItems/ (localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua): BankItems: zhCN & zhTW local update |
| 13:43.05 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: what bar number is the bt3 stancebar? (how to bind keys to it) |
| 13:43.15 | nevcairiel | its the special action bar |
| 13:43.18 | nevcairiel | in key ui |
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| 13:44.30 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57482 10AuctionProfit/ (AuctionProfit.lua readme.txt): AuctionProfit: fixed AucCompactUI check in menu |
| 13:45.34 | Pkekyo| | can't find 'special action bar' |
| 13:45.43 | Pkekyo| | find BT 1 through 10 |
| 13:45.53 | nevcairiel | its in the same section as BT1 |
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| 13:46.47 | Pkekyo| | no, wait, the bartender section starts at 2 |
| 13:47.36 | Pkekyo| | found a series of 'special action buttons' |
| 13:48.18 | Pkekyo| | they are all bound, but nothing to the stancebar |
| 13:54.48 | sag_ich_nicht | BT3_Autobindings ftw |
| 13:55.03 | CIA-8 | 03wt * r57483 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.lua: FreeRefills: Fixing extremely stupid drycode mess-up |
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| 13:55.27 | cncfanatics | don't commit drycoded stuff into drunk without putting it through a lua compiler ftw ? |
| 13:56.02 | Higdur | drunk > trunk |
| 13:56.23 | Higdur | or maybe commiting drunk > trunk |
| 13:56.48 | Xinhuan | so i have a semi-working _waypoints support for _routes now |
| 13:56.50 | Xinhuan | however |
| 13:57.05 | cncfanatics | brb, rebooting |
| 13:57.11 | Xinhuan | _waypoints only recognizes you as "hitting" the node when you go under 5 yards |
| 13:57.32 | Xinhuan | which is kinda dumb when you're trying to fly around for nodes |
| 13:58.09 | Gngsk | add a _routes mode to _waypoints? |
| 13:58.24 | Xinhuan | i'm not the author of _waypoints ~_~ |
| 13:58.39 | Xinhuan | i could add a variable though |
| 13:58.48 | Gngsk | add it local and send a patch! |
| 13:59.59 | Xinhuan | there's quite a lot of dumb code in there |
| 14:00.02 | Xinhuan | that serves no purpose |
| 14:00.11 | Polarina | I'm using Gatherer. Don't know why, it works (Partially). |
| 14:00.12 | Xinhuan | including 3 or 4 functions that "return true" |
| 14:00.27 | Xinhuan | Gatherer sucks |
| 14:00.36 | Xinhuan | (Because it doesn't have cartographer_routes support) :D |
| 14:00.39 | Stanzilla | just fix it Xinhuan, wobin won't kill you :p |
| 14:00.42 | Polarina | What's that? |
| 14:01.09 | Xinhuan | check http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 14:01.14 | Xinhuan | my addon got on the front page |
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| 14:02.12 | Gngsk | awesome, now the advantage of having the addon is gone |
| 14:02.25 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 14:02.31 | Xinhuan | everyone's route is still generated somewhat randomly |
| 14:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn in Xinhuan |
| 14:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | just fix it |
| 14:03.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Xinhuan |
| 14:03.01 | purl | ACTION runs at Xinhuan with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 14:03.03 | Xinhuan | i'm trying out to see if a "hitting radius" of 30 yards is enough |
| 14:03.09 | Xinhuan | or too small or too big |
| 14:03.29 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Can I put my Gatherer data into Chartographer? |
| 14:03.40 | Xinhuan | you can, but there is no need to |
| 14:03.46 | cncfanatics | Polarina, use Cartographer_data tbh |
| 14:03.52 | Xinhuan | you can download Cartographer_Data which imports the entire wowhead databae of nodes |
| 14:03.56 | Polarina | I want my own data! |
| 14:03.58 | Xinhuan | into Cartographer_Mining/herb/fish |
| 14:04.07 | Xinhuan | you can use Cartographer_Import then |
| 14:04.07 | Gngsk | I haven't tried routes because of the rock dep, but I'm seriously considering it |
| 14:04.14 | cncfanatics | Polarina, your own incomplete data ^^ |
| 14:04.19 | Polarina | Chartographer_Import? |
| 14:04.32 | cncfanatics | Gngsk, why is that a reason to not try something out ? carto is rock anywya |
| 14:04.33 | Xinhuan | yah, there's some tool/addon that can convert gathere data into cart ones |
| 14:04.37 | Gngsk | it'll "convert" the gathering nodes you have to work with cratographer |
| 14:04.48 | Gngsk | cncfanatics, because I don't use rock carto |
| 14:05.05 | Xinhuan | Gngsk, you're one of the few rare ones that don't |
| 14:05.20 | Gngsk | yea, I know, I'm so special like that |
| 14:05.32 | Xinhuan | and i dont' intend to port _Routes to ace2 ;p |
| 14:05.33 | cncfanatics | s/special/stupid/ |
| 14:05.37 | Polarina | Chartographer on AceSVN? |
| 14:05.39 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some guy wanna lend me gold for my epic flyer...at 25% intrest |
| 14:05.39 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, I know that too! |
| 14:05.55 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 14:05.59 | Polarina | Hurray! |
| 14:06.05 | Xinhuan | there's a whole suit of cartographer addons/modules |
| 14:06.10 | Xinhuan | suite* |
| 14:06.25 | Gngsk | the main reason I didn't wanna switch to rock was because of the way the fubar didn't use dewdrop anymore, I guess I could use ace2 fubar and rock carto |
| 14:06.49 | Xinhuan | Gngsk, the only Fubar addons that don't use dewdrop is ClockFu |
| 14:06.55 | Xinhuan | because its been "Rocked" |
| 14:07.08 | Xinhuan | every other fubar plugin to date, remains dewdrop |
| 14:07.11 | Gngsk | I didn't mean the plugins, I meant the actual bar |
| 14:07.22 | Xinhuan | well tell me, how often do you configure Fubar? |
| 14:07.29 | Gngsk | all day, every day |
| 14:07.34 | Xinhuan | and for what |
| 14:07.53 | Gngsk | I dunno, stuff |
| 14:08.08 | Xinhuan | your choice then! |
| 14:08.12 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 14:08.32 | Gngsk | I'm not complaining about it, it's fine. |
| 14:08.35 | Xinhuan | anyone knows what is "detect herbs" range? |
| 14:08.39 | Xinhuan | 100 yards? 80? |
| 14:08.45 | Xinhuan | grum ping |
| 14:09.05 | Grum | pong |
| 14:09.12 | Xinhuan | whats the detection range? |
| 14:09.21 | Grum | 80 to see, 100 to loose |
| 14:09.37 | Gngsk | omg, are we in AV? |
| 14:09.41 | Grum | but it is a tad random |
| 14:09.43 | Gngsk | zomg, dont' rush drek we will loose! |
| 14:09.44 | Xinhuan | so if i have _waypoints hitting at 30 yards |
| 14:09.50 | Xinhuan | is that too small a radius |
| 14:09.57 | kenlyric | cpu affinity is sexy. |
| 14:09.58 | Grum | humz dunno |
| 14:10.32 | Gngsk | ~kenlyric |
| 14:10.33 | purl | it has been said that kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 14:14.21 | Xinhuan | i need a neat way to choose which route to _waypoint ;) |
| 14:16.25 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, when the user mines his first node ? |
| 14:16.30 | cncfanatics | make a waypoint to the next |
| 14:16.44 | Polarina | Cartographer looks nice. |
| 14:16.47 | Xinhuan | that doesn't answer my question |
| 14:16.57 | Gngsk | I couldn't imagine playing without it |
| 14:16.59 | Xinhuan | a user could have 10 routes with the same node |
| 14:20.22 | Lukian | which cart download has gas cloud locations? |
| 14:20.29 | Xinhuan | Lukian - none lol |
| 14:20.34 | Lukian | bugger :9 |
| 14:20.43 | Lukian | wtb |
| 14:21.37 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57484 10RelegationW/: |
| 14:21.37 | CIA-8 | RelegationW: |
| 14:21.37 | CIA-8 | - Emptiness. |
| 14:21.47 | cncfanatics | omg I'm installing WoW now |
| 14:22.25 | Lukian | ^ best addon ever |
| 14:22.43 | Xinhuan | +W? |
| 14:22.43 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r57485 10CooldownTimers2/ (6 files): |
| 14:22.44 | CIA-8 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 14:22.44 | CIA-8 | -update sharemedia-1.0 to libsharemedia-2.0 |
| 14:23.25 | Lukian | widescreen edition? :D |
| 14:24.29 | Polarina | Nope. |
| 14:25.41 | cncfanatics | lol at wow forums :) |
| 14:26.04 | Xinhuan | whats the W for? |
| 14:26.24 | Polarina | Writing. |
| 14:26.31 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57486 10RelegationW/ (23 files in 6 dirs): |
| 14:26.31 | CIA-8 | RelegationW: |
| 14:26.31 | CIA-8 | - Initial commit. |
| 14:27.03 | Polarina | Now you can all help improve Relegation! |
| 14:28.14 | Xinhuan | how is this addon different from any of the 3 or 4 other anti-spam addons |
| 14:28.22 | Polarina | Reminds mew. I saw a gold-spammer yesterday. |
| 14:28.31 | Polarina | s/mew/me/ |
| 14:28.49 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It reports the gold-spammers using the "Report Spam" button automatically. |
| 14:28.58 | Polarina | Instead of ignoring all level 1 players.. |
| 14:29.13 | sb | heh wtf |
| 14:29.19 | sb | no arena reset |
| 14:32.19 | Xinhuan | btw Gngsk, there's a lot of things fixed in Cartographer over the last few weeks that probably didn't get ported over to the ace2 versin |
| 14:32.19 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 14:32.57 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57487 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: Fix bug in _Waypoints where "WaypointHit" Rock event is never dispatched and "CartographerWaypoints_WaypointHit" Ace2 event is never triggered. |
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| 14:37.28 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57488 10Relegation/Data/MessageList.lua: |
| 14:37.28 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 14:37.28 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 14:40.26 | Polarina | DAMIT! I forgot again to update the version number! |
| 14:41.49 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57489 10Relegation/Relegation.toc: |
| 14:41.49 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 14:41.49 | CIA-8 | - Updated version number. |
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| 14:43.36 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@port114.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 14:47.28 | Polarina | Now it's Cartographer time! :D |
| 14:48.45 | Lukian | Polarina, what is Relegation? :) |
| 14:49.15 | Polarina | A addon that automatically reports gold spammers using the "Report Spam" button. |
| 14:49.29 | Lukian | awesome! |
| 14:49.35 | Lukian | how does it match/check? :D |
| 14:49.44 | Polarina | Using Sha256 checksums. |
| 14:50.01 | Lukian | so a copy of all current adverts? :o |
| 14:50.12 | Polarina | Mostly, but modified. |
| 14:50.17 | Lukian | neato |
| 14:51.10 | Polarina | It strips all bytes that aren't letters or numbers. For example: |
| 14:51.10 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.10 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.44 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.2) |
| 14:55.46 | Lukian | sigh, why do blizzard flight routes take you into another zone for 5secs, then back into your last zone |
| 14:55.59 | Lukian | that must fire so many unneeded addon function :p |
| 14:56.03 | Polarina | Is that a problem? |
| 14:56.14 | Lukian | it's wasteful |
| 14:56.16 | Lukian | kinda |
| 14:56.29 | Lukian | addon to watch in some cases |
| 14:56.32 | Lukian | annoying* |
| 14:56.37 | Polarina | The people who design / make the routes are in a complete different department than the UI team. |
| 14:56.47 | *** join/#wowace Preystalker (n=culpedr@216.107.111.77) |
| 14:56.52 | Lukian | hehehe |
| 14:56.54 | cncfanatics | *communication* |
| 14:56.59 | Preystalker | good morning |
| 14:56.59 | Lukian | indeed :/ |
| 14:57.11 | nevcairiel | what does it matter, you're flying anyway |
| 14:57.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Lukian: go find such flightroutes and report them, duh |
| 14:57.43 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, you know.. I'll start making a list |
| 14:58.06 | cncfanatics | TBC has nearly finished installing omg omg omg |
| 14:58.15 | cncfanatics | then I only have billions of patches to install (glad I have em all on my hd) |
| 14:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | you know that you can just |
| 14:58.17 | Lukian | cncfanatics, now for epic patching |
| 14:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 14:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | copy the folder |
| 14:58.28 | Lukian | cncfanatics, 2.3 full patch ftw :p |
| 14:58.31 | Polarina | Cartographer_Import is out of date!! |
| 14:58.32 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics or you could just download the full 2.3 patcg |
| 14:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | instead of millions of old ones |
| 14:58.37 | cncfanatics | why would I |
| 14:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | *patch |
| 14:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 14:58.43 | cncfanatics | extra downloading ftl |
| 14:58.59 | Lukian | faster (depending on your connection) :p |
| 14:59.22 | cncfanatics | no not faster when you already have all patches on your HD :p |
| 14:59.40 | Lukian | so installing 20 patches is faster than one? |
| 14:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no, because the patching process takes longer if you apply a million minipatches |
| 14:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | because it has to uncompress and recompress the MPQ each time |
| 14:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | instead of just once |
| 15:00.02 | cncfanatics | installing 20 patches is faster then downloading and installing 1 patch :) |
| 15:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 15:00.14 | cncfanatics | it sure is for me |
| 15:00.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not on my internet connection |
| 15:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:00.30 | cncfanatics | I don't have a T3 connection, sry |
| 15:00.41 | Polarina | Tier 3 connection? WTF? |
| 15:00.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i only have 4 Mbit and it's faster |
| 15:00.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:00.43 | cncfanatics | either way, rebooting X to get my new radeon driver up |
| 15:00.44 | Lukian | me either :p |
| 15:00.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: no |
| 15:00.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: not Tier 3 |
| 15:00.58 | sag_ich_nicht | T3 |
| 15:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | it's connection type |
| 15:01.14 | Lukian | haha |
| 15:01.16 | Lukian | owned |
| 15:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-carrier |
| 15:01.50 | CIA-8 | 03pericles * r57490 10InventoryOnPar/ (InventoryOnPar.lua InventoryOnParUI.lua InventoryOnParUI.xml): |
| 15:01.50 | CIA-8 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 15:01.50 | CIA-8 | - Updated to v7.7 |
| 15:01.50 | CIA-8 | - Added ability to filter only party/raid members |
| 15:01.50 | CIA-8 | - Fixed data string on clean up showing as Unix time number |
| 15:01.59 | Xinhuan | how's this for _Waypoint support |
| 15:02.19 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp.jpg |
| 15:02.41 | sag_ich_nicht | *click, even |
| 15:02.44 | Lukian | omg keylogger |
| 15:02.53 | Xinhuan | the minimap shows a little "X" on the next node to fly to |
| 15:03.07 | Xinhuan | and _waypoints shows that directional arrow (a little below my mount) |
| 15:03.07 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Cartographer_Stats is broken. |
| 15:03.07 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god you have the scarab lord title? |
| 15:03.07 | Lukian | Xinhuan, hot. |
| 15:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | you are insane |
| 15:03.20 | Xinhuan | ah yes, i do sag_ich_nicht :) |
| 15:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: can we chose the direction? |
| 15:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | (clockwise or counterclockwise) |
| 15:03.42 | Xinhuan | i just added a function that toggles that direction |
| 15:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | wonderful |
| 15:03.56 | [SW]Dodge | wtf... 476days played O.o |
| 15:03.57 | Lukian | crazy question, but why do you have your xp bar on x-perl (?) on a 70 :p |
| 15:04.01 | Xinhuan | at the moment though, for testing purposes |
| 15:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 15:04.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 15:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you have no life |
| 15:04.17 | sag_ich_nicht | at all. |
| 15:04.25 | sag_ich_nicht | 476 days played jesus christ |
| 15:04.27 | Xinhuan | i hardcoded it to do 1 particular route |
| 15:04.48 | Lukian | OMG |
| 15:04.50 | Xinhuan | i need some suggestions on how to choose what route and what node to start with |
| 15:04.53 | Lukian | You can change SWStats button colours |
| 15:05.00 | Lukian | Why did I not know this?! |
| 15:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | how, is the question |
| 15:05.09 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 15:05.29 | sag_ich_nicht | tell us Xinhuan! |
| 15:05.44 | Xinhuan | suppose i have 3 routes in the current zone |
| 15:06.02 | Xinhuan | what is the best way to tell the addon "i want to _waypoint this route, start at this node" |
| 15:06.41 | sag_ich_nicht | just start with the node closest and have start/stop button, since you're not farming ALL the time. |
| 15:06.54 | sag_ich_nicht | s/have/have a/ |
| 15:07.03 | Xinhuan | "closest node" doesn't choose the route |
| 15:07.12 | Xinhuan | all 3 routes in the zone could have that node |
| 15:07.17 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57491 10AuctionProfit/ (5 files): |
| 15:07.17 | CIA-8 | AuctionProfit: |
| 15:07.17 | CIA-8 | - minor text corrections |
| 15:07.17 | CIA-8 | - IsHooked check fix |
| 15:07.33 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 15:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | route selection |
| 15:07.36 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 15:07.43 | sag_ich_nicht | fubar dropdown selection? |
| 15:07.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno. |
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| 15:07.56 | Xinhuan | the fubar_routes addon is fucked |
| 15:08.00 | Xinhuan | cos its writen in Rock |
| 15:08.02 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 15:08.10 | Xinhuan | so right click on it brings up the BIG UGLY ROCK CONFIG |
| 15:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:03] <[SW]Dodge> wtf... 476days played O.o <--guess you didn't notice the gold counter, either, huh |
| 15:08.56 | Xinhuan | (i bet you didn't notice i was flying at 410% speed too, without a +10% speed trinket) |
| 15:09.24 | [SW]Dodge | uhm lol damn freak XD |
| 15:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, because i noticed the damn armor on the netherdrake :P |
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| 15:09.59 | Polarina | Xinhuan: How do I make Cartographer only display on the map areas I have visited? |
| 15:10.10 | Xinhuan | you turn off "FogLight" |
| 15:10.24 | [SW]Dodge | what is that for a mount with 410% ?! |
| 15:10.40 | sag_ich_nicht | armored netherdrake, increases your speed by 310% |
| 15:10.49 | [SW]Dodge | where to get it? |
| 15:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | top 0.5% arena bracket |
| 15:11.09 | sag_ich_nicht | at the end of the season |
| 15:11.15 | Lukian | or you can get Ashes of Alar |
| 15:11.22 | [SW]Dodge | argh |
| 15:11.32 | sag_ich_nicht | lol kael'thas |
| 15:11.41 | sag_ich_nicht | the dropchance is lower than the damn baron mount |
| 15:11.45 | Xinhuan | i hope my UI is "pretty clean" |
| 15:11.49 | Lukian | Xinhuan, where's your riding trinket? :p |
| 15:11.58 | Xinhuan | that blank space between the chatbox and swstats is where raidframes go |
| 15:12.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: too default |
| 15:12.05 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Thanks. |
| 15:12.10 | Xinhuan | it isn't default sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:12.18 | Polarina | And how does Cartographer_Import works? |
| 15:12.19 | Xinhuan | the actionbar below - notice it has 23 buttons? |
| 15:12.36 | sag_ich_nicht | default minimap, default skin for your actionbar |
| 15:12.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it's about the skin, man :P |
| 15:12.45 | Lukian | Xinhuan, I like it, except kill your minimap title, move it up and relocate Fubar_LocationFu to above it :) |
| 15:12.56 | Xinhuan | the default minimap looks fine to me :D |
| 15:12.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also that |
| 15:13.00 | Zhinjio | may I see the screenie? |
| 15:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | the default minimap is horribly small |
| 15:13.12 | Lukian | Xinhuan, agreed, but why have the title when it's already on fubar? |
| 15:13.30 | Xinhuan | hmm you may have a point there lukian |
| 15:13.56 | Xinhuan | [12/26 23:14:06] <Lukian> Xinhuan, where's your riding trinket? :p |
| 15:14.03 | Xinhuan | my riding trinket... well, i'm wearing my "naked" set |
| 15:14.10 | Lukian | hehehe |
| 15:14.12 | Xinhuan | you can see that in my closetgnome |
| 15:14.20 | Xinhuan | christmas outfit |
| 15:14.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan you could completely ruin your servers economy |
| 15:14.30 | sag_ich_nicht | you realize that |
| 15:14.31 | sag_ich_nicht | right? |
| 15:14.35 | Xinhuan | i am aware |
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| 15:15.02 | Xinhuan | but when i already earn ~500g to 1000g everyday, i dont' really see a need to do that |
| 15:15.14 | sag_ich_nicht | how the hell do you earn that much per day anyway |
| 15:15.17 | sag_ich_nicht | just JC? |
| 15:15.21 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 15:15.30 | Xinhuan | i have every enchant in the game too |
| 15:15.33 | sag_ich_nicht | jesus christ i need to skil up |
| 15:15.37 | Xinhuan | well, i dont' have executioner, but it'll drop some day |
| 15:15.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *skill |
| 15:16.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and i need to farm more :/ |
| 15:16.54 | sag_ich_nicht | now that i have a very very effective farming route ;O |
| 15:17.08 | Lukian | http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot122707021552vx3.jpg @ Xinhuan |
| 15:17.11 | sag_ich_nicht | felsteel sells for insane prices on my server |
| 15:17.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it's obscene, i can get 40g per bar |
| 15:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | probably more |
| 15:17.55 | Xinhuan | what shows that "rested" thing in the corner Lukian? |
| 15:18.00 | Pkekyo| | what's the top enchanting rod? |
| 15:18.05 | Pkekyo| | eternium? |
| 15:18.18 | Xinhuan | Rune Eternium Rod |
| 15:18.19 | mort | yes |
| 15:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | elementium, duh! |
| 15:18.22 | sag_ich_nicht | M( |
| 15:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | *;) |
| 15:18.27 | Xinhuan | it also costs 3 or 4 primal mights to make |
| 15:18.33 | mort | 4 |
| 15:18.33 | tjn | as soon as my internet is uncapped i'm going to make my own UI |
| 15:18.37 | Xinhuan | oh on top of the 100g rod too |
| 15:18.49 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'd ever decide to redo my UI |
| 15:18.50 | tjn | i'm just using one pre-packaged one now. |
| 15:18.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd pwn you all |
| 15:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but i cba |
| 15:19.01 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 15:19.24 | Xinhuan | i wanted to install trinketmenu and put it in the lowerleft corner of my screen actually |
| 15:19.26 | Xinhuan | or autobar |
| 15:19.29 | Xinhuan | but i didn't get around to it |
| 15:19.40 | Polarina | Anyone knows how Cartographer_Import works? |
| 15:19.48 | sag_ich_nicht | why? because my UI would look EXACTLY like alt+z. everything else would be shown using keybinds |
| 15:19.50 | Xinhuan | Polarina, check the wowace forums |
| 15:19.54 | tjn | xinhuan sounds like a chinese farmer name :P |
| 15:20.00 | tjn | :D |
| 15:20.03 | Xinhuan | maybe that's because i'm chinese :D |
| 15:20.06 | Lukian | http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=restfura9.png @ Xinhuan |
| 15:20.07 | sag_ich_nicht | tjn: he has 78k gold. |
| 15:20.10 | tjn | i was guessing that ;) |
| 15:20.16 | tjn | xinhuan, omg.. you farmer! |
| 15:20.17 | Xinhuan | well i didn't farm any of that |
| 15:20.19 | Zhinjio | skinless. *grin* |
| 15:20.28 | sag_ich_nicht | tjn: he has pretty much everything you could reach ingame |
| 15:20.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan you downed illidan yet |
| 15:20.39 | Xinhuan | 3 bosses away from illidan |
| 15:20.46 | tjn | then how come i have never heard of him? |
| 15:20.54 | tjn | not trying to be offensive or anything ;) |
| 15:21.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Link? |
| 15:21.08 | sag_ich_nicht | tjn: because he's staying quiet :P |
| 15:21.10 | Xinhuan | dunno Polarina, use the search function |
| 15:21.20 | tjn | fair enough |
| 15:21.26 | tjn | xinhuan, any tips for a mage like me? :D |
| 15:21.40 | Lukian | Xinhuan, that's just RestFu's natural icon as you can see above :) |
| 15:21.44 | Xinhuan | for pve, stack 16% spellhit, then go spelldamage > spellcrit |
| 15:21.45 | Lukian | fuxpfu's changes :) |
| 15:22.05 | Xinhuan | for pvp, buy every vindicator/arena-s3 piece |
| 15:22.06 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:22.24 | tjn | lukian, i mean.. leveling wise. i'm only level 20 at the moment :( |
| 15:22.38 | tjn | xinhuan, rather. |
| 15:22.44 | Xinhuan | uhm |
| 15:22.50 | Xinhuan | go fire spec for lvling up faster |
| 15:22.58 | Xinhuan | put points in talents that increase your damage |
| 15:23.10 | Lukian | Xinhuan, do you like my pretty coloured swstats buttons now? :D |
| 15:23.11 | Lukian | hehe |
| 15:23.14 | Xinhuan | i.e improved fireball, master of elements, +range, +crit +dmg |
| 15:23.22 | Xinhuan | stuff like that |
| 15:23.40 | Xinhuan | the more damage you do, the less mana you take per spell, etc, the faster you kill = faster lvling |
| 15:24.00 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn|afk (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 15:24.44 | Xinhuan | anyway |
| 15:24.52 | Xinhuan | i need some suggestions on how to choose what route and what node to start with |
| 15:24.53 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:25.01 | Lukian | the nearest one |
| 15:25.08 | Lukian | as for which route.. hmm |
| 15:25.09 | Xinhuan | what if more than 1 route is visible |
| 15:25.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i level my rogue as subtility for that reason actually |
| 15:25.10 | Polarina | Why isn't Cartographer_Waypoint on AceSVN? |
| 15:25.21 | Xinhuan | Polarina - it is part of the Cartographer package |
| 15:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i go and shadowstep/ambush the mob |
| 15:25.28 | sag_ich_nicht | it's below 35% hp |
| 15:25.33 | sag_ich_nicht | after 1 hit. |
| 15:25.34 | Xinhuan | installing Cartographer comes with it as a submodule |
| 15:25.37 | thul | for leveling? :-P |
| 15:25.41 | thul | combat swords for leveling ftw. |
| 15:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | and then dirty deeds kicks in |
| 15:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 15:25.52 | sag_ich_nicht | combat swords is slower |
| 15:25.55 | sag_ich_nicht | go and try it out |
| 15:25.57 | thul | not in mye xperience |
| 15:26.01 | Xinhuan | if you use WAU, you may optionally have WAU unpackage each submodule into its own addon folder as a standalone addon depended on Cartographer |
| 15:26.23 | Lukian | Xinhuan, oh easy |
| 15:26.26 | Lukian | well |
| 15:26.28 | thul | I have grinded _quite_ a few mobs for motes the last months since hemo/dd-buff with hemo as main attack, it is fast, then on second place comes combat/ss, THEN daggers |
| 15:26.31 | thul | daggers < * |
| 15:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 15:27.12 | Lukian | Xinhuan, first check the tracking type, then choose the "highest level" route, ie. khorium? |
| 15:27.31 | Lukian | or maybe the shortest route |
| 15:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | thul: just wait until 2.3.2 hits and hemo actually works the way it should work :) |
| 15:28.00 | Lukian | by that, I mean the route with the most nodes nearby your current position (can you check the direction of travel and extrapolate this?) |
| 15:28.06 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: you mean "hemo gets nerfed beacause blizz sucks"? |
| 15:28.30 | thul | if so, well, yeah, when hemo gets nerfed, it is less nice, quite the observant guy aren't you :-P |
| 15:28.36 | Kalroth | fixed* |
| 15:28.43 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, hemo gets buffed, noob. |
| 15:28.50 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 15:28.54 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: buffed? :-P |
| 15:28.57 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: for grinding? :-) |
| 15:29.11 | sag_ich_nicht | go and calculate it, the reason for this lies in this simple patchnote: # |
| 15:29.11 | sag_ich_nicht | # Hemorrhage: This ability now correctly does additional damage when its debuff has already been applied. |
| 15:29.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:29.17 | thul | ... |
| 15:29.21 | thul | read the rest of the patch notes for hemo |
| 15:29.22 | thul | pls. |
| 15:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 15:30.19 | Polarina | How do I use Cartographer_Import to import from Gatherer? |
| 15:30.33 | Xinhuan | i don't know Polarina :) |
| 15:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | read the ones for sinister calling. now hush, go away. NOES, I LOSE 5% WEAPON DAMAGE ON HEMO, BUT THE DEBUFF IT PROVIDES GETS STRONGER AND IS NOW ALSO USED BY THE ATTACK, OH GOD NO, I'M GOING TO SHIT MYSELF BECAUSE I CAN'T DO ELEMENTARY CLASS MATH |
| 15:30.41 | Xinhuan | but i'm sure there are instructions *somewhere* |
| 15:30.46 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 15:30.52 | Xinhuan | either on forums, wiki, or the zip |
| 15:31.34 | thul | Hemorrhage weapon damage reduced from 125% to 110%, but the damage debuff has been increased. |
| 15:31.37 | thul | :-( |
| 15:31.48 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 15:31.49 | sag_ich_nicht | # Sinister Calling now also increases the percentage damage bonus of Hemorrhage and Backstab by 2/4/6/8/10%. |
| 15:31.50 | Lukian | Xinhuan, could you check your swstats version for me/ |
| 15:32.18 | thul | yes, beacause speccing that far down |
| 15:32.18 | Xinhuan | 2.1.2 |
| 15:32.20 | thul | is _very_ ciable |
| 15:32.21 | thul | viable |
| 15:32.22 | Xinhuan | (is the latest) |
| 15:32.23 | thul | retardsag:) |
| 15:32.34 | thul | if you want to act all arrogant and condecending, please get a clue first |
| 15:32.38 | thul | that makes it less stupid |
| 15:32.51 | thul | "let us all spec shadowstep, beacause that is not a lol-spec at all" |
| 15:32.51 | Lukian | ## Version: 2.1.3 |
| 15:32.58 | Lukian | that explains why it's buggy as hell? :) |
| 15:33.37 | sag_ich_nicht | it is. now get out, because you don't have a friggin clue about the damn purpose of the tree and how your behavior is exactly what is wrong with the damn game. i'm leaving, before i have to puke. night. |
| 15:34.14 | Polarina | Cartographer_InstanceLoot\InstanceLoot.lua:369: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 15:34.17 | Polarina | Someone fix that. |
| 15:34.46 | Kalroth | That someone could be you! |
| 15:34.57 | Lukian | Indeed! |
| 15:35.56 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, leave beacause you make more of a fool out of yourself :-) |
| 15:36.01 | Xinhuan | get ammo to fix that Polarina :D |
| 15:36.31 | Polarina | [Ammo]: Ping. |
| 15:36.50 | Lukian | what's the last working version of TopScoreFu? |
| 15:36.54 | Lukian | wau doesn't have the latest yet |
| 15:40.30 | Polarina | I'm not sure if the data from WowHead is reliable. |
| 15:40.30 | Lukian | Message: ..\AddOns\FuBar_TopScoreFu\TopScoreFu.lua line 517: |
| 15:40.30 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:42.21 | Lukian | hmm my savedvars was corrupt |
| 15:42.24 | Lukian | sad :/ |
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| 15:57.21 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | All I want for xmas is Ace3 Beta. |
| 15:57.23 | SMELTN | and now I get that error |
| 15:57.26 | SMELTN | all the time |
| 15:57.36 | Xinhuan | wowhead data has proven to be reliable for me ;p |
| 15:59.54 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57492 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: Add three small APIs to _Waypoints for _Routes to use. |
| 16:01.07 | ramoz | Xinhuan: btw! fyi postal crashed wow when i did 0.3 fetch thing :O |
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| 16:02.28 | tjn | xinhuan, what exactly is the point of having 78k worth of gold? |
| 16:02.41 | Osstia | epeen |
| 16:02.46 | Pkekyo| | giving it to me, is |
| 16:02.47 | Xinhuan | nothing tjn, i don't even try anymore |
| 16:03.07 | tjn | then go blow it on something? |
| 16:03.10 | Xinhuan | ramoz, there's some bug with retrieving mail - sometimes even when i retrieve mail manually, wow crashes |
| 16:03.19 | Lukian | tjn, there's nothing to spend 78k on :p |
| 16:03.21 | ramoz | oh |
| 16:03.22 | tjn | you probably have it all already. |
| 16:03.23 | Xinhuan | by manually, i mean physically opening the mail and clicking the item |
| 16:03.25 | tjn | i wish i was you. |
| 16:03.26 | tjn | :( |
| 16:03.32 | ramoz | yeah |
| 16:03.35 | Lukian | other than screwing with your servers economy ^_^ |
| 16:03.41 | tjn | DO IT. |
| 16:03.44 | tjn | ROFL. |
| 16:03.49 | tjn | u'll make even more dollars. |
| 16:03.51 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan's gonna have a huge fucking advantage when the next expansion's released |
| 16:03.54 | tjn | you might get banned for it? |
| 16:04.03 | tjn | pkekyo|, that's very true. |
| 16:04.04 | Xinhuan | i started TBC with 11k gold btw |
| 16:04.11 | tjn | :O |
| 16:04.12 | Polarina | Surround wireless headset rules! |
| 16:04.28 | Pkekyo| | tjn: getting banned for having 78k gold? |
| 16:04.30 | Xinhuan | that 11k reached 1k once i bought epic mount and bought 27 rare JC recipes |
| 16:04.44 | tjn | pkekyo|, getting banned for screwing with the economy? |
| 16:04.49 | tjn | you never know, aye. |
| 16:04.49 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 16:04.55 | Xinhuan | judging from the gold selling spam, 1000g is worth what... 40 USD? |
| 16:05.04 | tjn | xinhuan, have you ever been confronted by a gm for it? |
| 16:05.06 | Pkekyo| | something like that xin |
| 16:05.09 | Xinhuan | so 78k x 40 is 2.9k dollars? |
| 16:05.13 | Xinhuan | no tjn |
| 16:05.23 | nevcairiel | why should GMs care o.O |
| 16:05.24 | tjn | i'm suprised. |
| 16:05.29 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: ~3.1k |
| 16:05.34 | Xinhuan | there are ppl who hit the gold limit before |
| 16:05.39 | Xinhuan | numerous ppl posted about the gold limit |
| 16:05.41 | tjn | what's the gold limit? |
| 16:05.48 | nevcairiel | they _can_ check the logs how he got the money, if they really care, they do that before ever asking him |
| 16:05.50 | Xinhuan | the gold limit is 2^32 - 1 == 214k gold |
| 16:06.07 | tjn | sorry, i'm probably being incredibly annoying - i've just never seen anyone with that amount of gold. |
| 16:06.17 | Xinhuan | when you try to exceed 214k gold, you get an error that says "At Gold Limit" |
| 16:06.28 | Xinhuan | and you don't roll over into negative -214k gold |
| 16:06.38 | nevcairiel | yeah they fixed that at some point |
| 16:06.49 | tjn | at least it's not like lineage ii, where you actually loose all that money. |
| 16:06.50 | tjn | :P |
| 16:06.56 | Lukian | http://www.bloodlegion.com/wow/screens/691k3KN.jpg <- "At Gold Limit" |
| 16:07.00 | Pkekyo| | how the flying fuck would someone get 214k gold anyways? |
| 16:07.13 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, as a GM, it's not too hard :p |
| 16:07.14 | Xinhuan | why not, people can farm 2k a day easily |
| 16:07.16 | tjn | pkekyo|, a lot of friends? a lot of time. |
| 16:07.26 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: how ? :D |
| 16:07.29 | Xinhuan | i've seen guild banks that are very rich |
| 16:07.39 | Xinhuan | well nev, you farm 150g per hour |
| 16:07.44 | Xinhuan | for 10-15 hours |
| 16:08.01 | Xinhuan | guildbanks didn't exist until 2.3 |
| 16:08.04 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: how can you farm 2k gold/day? |
| 16:08.06 | nevcairiel | yeah how ? :P i never cared to gather information about that |
| 16:08.16 | Xinhuan | i just said you can farm 150g per hour |
| 16:08.20 | tjn | 10k would be enough for me. |
| 16:08.23 | Xinhuan | primals or adamantite ore |
| 16:08.41 | Xinhuan | even skinning the kodo beasts in nagrand |
| 16:08.45 | Xinhuan | can get you 150g per hour |
| 16:08.50 | nevcairiel | i need to get a flying mount for my lock so i can start farming that |
| 16:08.52 | Xinhuan | including all the killing you need to do |
| 16:09.38 | Xinhuan | i just noted that every setting in _Waypoints is defaulted to off |
| 16:09.42 | Xinhuan | because there are no defaults defined |
| 16:09.58 | Fiskersmas | hmm Xinhuan |
| 16:10.13 | Fiskersmas | i heard it was fixed on the EU servers |
| 16:10.18 | Fiskersmas | i.e. it allowed you to go past 214k |
| 16:10.29 | Xinhuan | i highly doubt that fisker |
| 16:10.35 | Osstia | will notepad++ insert a timestamp? |
| 16:10.48 | Xinhuan | you can't just change the value of a variable from "32 bit long" to "64 bit long" |
| 16:11.01 | Xinhuan | without changing 1000 other things |
| 16:11.36 | nevcairiel | possibly they can change it to unsigned |
| 16:11.39 | nevcairiel | not sure about that |
| 16:11.39 | Fiskersmas | i believe it's serverside that it is an issue |
| 16:11.58 | Xinhuan | nobody really cares |
| 16:12.06 | Lukian | indeed XD |
| 16:12.07 | Xinhuan | if you have 214k gold, you still can have 10 chars per server |
| 16:12.14 | Xinhuan | that's 214k x 10 |
| 16:12.18 | Xinhuan | for server limit |
| 16:12.22 | Lukian | Xinhuan, and now you can probably put another 214k in the guildbank :p |
| 16:12.46 | Xinhuan | well 214k gold PER guild bank ;p |
| 16:12.58 | Lukian | so that's 214k x 20 :D |
| 16:13.20 | nevcairiel | not like anyone could ever spent his 2140k gold |
| 16:13.39 | [dRaCo] | not for useful stuff, but... |
| 16:13.44 | Polarina | I would find good use for it. |
| 16:13.50 | Lukian | blizzard should add a 2000k gold mount :p |
| 16:14.03 | Polarina | ARTIFACT! |
| 16:14.03 | Lukian | give it like solid gold armour plating |
| 16:14.08 | nevcairiel | that wouldnt work, you cant have that much money on one char =P |
| 16:14.15 | Lukian | haha |
| 16:14.20 | Fiskersmas | exactly nevcairiel |
| 16:14.23 | Fiskersmas | that's why they should do it :D |
| 16:14.53 | Fiskersmas | 1000% speed Phoenix Mount with the flavour text "Even if you had the money you couldn't get me" |
| 16:14.54 | Fiskersmas | hoho |
| 16:15.02 | Xinhuan | omg server died |
| 16:15.04 | Xinhuan | blackrock down |
| 16:15.15 | Fiskersmas | and it should be usable in azeroth as well |
| 16:15.17 | Fiskersmas | and instances |
| 16:15.25 | Lukian | Xinhuan, will you give me gold if I roll there? :D |
| 16:15.29 | Lukian | hehehe |
| 16:16.21 | tjn | yeah, for me too please xinhuan. |
| 16:16.34 | Polarina | I cancelled my commit in the last 500 milliseconds when I found out I forgot to update the version number, again... |
| 16:16.34 | tjn | i can call you 'master' everytime we speak if you wish. |
| 16:16.39 | Xinhuan | pretty sure i don't want you on my server, 1k login queues every sunday :D |
| 16:16.53 | Lukian | ouch! |
| 16:16.54 | Xinhuan | Polarina, who cares about the version number |
| 16:16.59 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I do. |
| 16:17.06 | Xinhuan | most people use the revision number directly as the version number |
| 16:17.21 | Pkekyo| | "Cartographer_Routes: There is already a TSP running in background. Wait for it to complete first." <--- wtf, eh? |
| 16:17.56 | Xinhuan | yes Pkekyo|? :) |
| 16:18.05 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57493 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc): |
| 16:18.05 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 16:18.05 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 16:18.14 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: what does it mean? |
| 16:18.16 | tjn | lukian, what realm do you play on? |
| 16:18.23 | Xinhuan | it means exactly what it says |
| 16:18.37 | Xinhuan | you are already "optimizing a route" in the background |
| 16:19.06 | Xinhuan | TSP stands for travelling salesman problem |
| 16:19.31 | Xinhuan | which is the classic problem of having X cities and travelling to each one in turn and returning to the starting point in the minimum distance travelled |
| 16:19.31 | Lukian | tjn, Jubei'Thos (oceanic) |
| 16:19.36 | Gngsk | should prolly just make it say what you said in quotes aobve |
| 16:19.46 | Pkekyo| | also, why are lvl 67 mobs dropping me runecloth? |
| 16:19.56 | Lukian | I noticed that too Pkekyo| :( |
| 16:19.58 | Xinhuan | Lukian, i believe a guild just disbanded on your server |
| 16:19.58 | tjn | lukian, i see.. i play on frostmourne - i might change over though. but i am horde ;) |
| 16:19.59 | Fiskersmas | that's fail Xinhuan |
| 16:20.01 | Xinhuan | on the alliance side |
| 16:20.02 | Pkekyo| | traveling salesman problem? |
| 16:20.07 | Fiskersmas | how can the problem not run in the background? |
| 16:20.12 | Polarina | Pkekyo|: Look it up on wikipedia. |
| 16:20.14 | Lukian | Xinhuan, that happens pretty regularly ^_^ |
| 16:20.18 | Fiskersmas | if you don't have a good route you have a problem |
| 16:20.23 | Xinhuan | its a Bt guild |
| 16:20.25 | Fiskersmas | but if you can't make a route when you have the problem |
| 16:20.25 | tjn | xinhuan, when you can - please view the personal message. |
| 16:20.33 | Lukian | our best guild is only #90 in US rankings |
| 16:20.33 | Fiskersmas | then how can you use it? |
| 16:20.33 | Fiskersmas | :O |
| 16:20.39 | Pkekyo| | ~TSP |
| 16:20.51 | Xinhuan | a lock called Osiwa just xferred over today, so did a hunter called Relique |
| 16:22.41 | Xinhuan | function Cartographer_Routes:FindClosestVisibleRoute() |
| 16:22.46 | Xinhuan | i need to write this function now |
| 16:22.47 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 16:22.47 | purl | :/ |
| 16:23.06 | Fiskersmas | I wonder if we'll start to see squadrons of miners following the same patch now? :D |
| 16:23.18 | Osstia | treat even |
| 16:24.47 | Pkekyo| | Fiskersmas: trust me, they have been allready |
| 16:25.00 | Pkekyo| | and the ones with the epic flyer always wins...fucking chinese bastards |
| 16:25.01 | Fiskersmas | awsum |
| 16:25.13 | Osstia | haha |
| 16:25.21 | Xinhuan | you mean you haven't seen the linked video of a chinese gold farmer using routes? |
| 16:25.23 | Osstia | get an epic flyer |
| 16:25.26 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you know, you suck, now i have to install rock to even have the slightest chance to get some herbs =P |
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| 16:25.51 | Xinhuan | http://news-you-can-digg.blogspot.com/2007/12/warcraft-gold-farmer-reveals-100-gold.html |
| 16:25.56 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: hand over 3k then |
| 16:26.01 | Xinhuan | Monday, December 3, 2007 |
| 16:26.01 | Xinhuan | Warcraft Gold Farmer reveals 100 gold in 20 minutes |
| 16:26.09 | Osstia | If you wer eon my server I would |
| 16:26.11 | Xinhuan | A World of Warcraft gold farmer has created a video showing how he made 100 gold in 20 minutes. |
| 16:26.12 | Xinhuan | He basically shows using an addon that plots the fastest route between spawn points for ore, and he just follows the route. Then he tallies everything he made in that 20 minutes. |
| 16:26.24 | Xinhuan | He admits that 100g in 20 minutes is unusual...he normally only makes 60g in 20 minutes. |
| 16:26.37 | Osstia | gold is really not that hard to pbtain |
| 16:26.40 | Osstia | obtain |
| 16:26.59 | Osstia | I am no Xinhuan mind you, but keeping 5-15k is fairly easy |
| 16:27.00 | Pkekyo| | depends on how you play |
| 16:27.43 | Pkekyo| | I haven't EVER passed 3k gold |
| 16:28.18 | nevcairiel | i was at 6k once, and bought my epic flying mount |
| 16:28.24 | nevcairiel | but never reached 3k again sicne then |
| 16:28.25 | Gngsk | I have 25k gold without even trying |
| 16:28.32 | Gngsk | I could have double or even triple if I played the AH at all |
| 16:28.38 | Osstia | same |
| 16:28.44 | Osstia | I go through spells of trying |
| 16:28.46 | Osstia | then coast |
| 16:29.24 | Osstia | I have 2 more chars approaching 70 though, so I should start it up again |
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| 16:34.07 | Pkekyo| | screw you both :p |
| 16:34.08 | Pkekyo| | geif gld |
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| 16:35.33 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: should I prospect the adamantite or sell it? |
| 16:35.45 | thul | i have never had more than 4-5k gold |
| 16:35.50 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, prospecting ada yields more gain then selling it |
| 16:35.52 | Xinhuan | depends on you server economy, generally speaking its better to prospect |
| 16:36.09 | cncfanatics | actualy, buying ada from AH , prospecting it, crafting gems then selling gems is benificial |
| 16:36.12 | Pkekyo| | I'm stuck on 2.3k gold and can't get higher nor lower |
| 16:36.23 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: true, but I'm not a JC :p |
| 16:37.29 | Pkekyo| | beside, Ì'm unlucky as hell |
| 16:37.50 | Pkekyo| | out of four adamantite stacks (x20) I got two talasite and the rest greens |
| 16:38.01 | kergoth | i'm at 1700g. never had more than like 1100 without spending it before |
| 16:38.10 | Pkekyo| | basicly 70 out of 80 ore was wasted |
| 16:38.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:39.20 | Gngsk | talasite is a waste too :\ |
| 16:39.22 | Pkekyo| | and that...kinda sucked |
| 16:39.28 | Pkekyo| | Gngsk: true, hardly worth auctioning |
| 16:39.55 | Codayus | The "easy" money tricks are very much server dependent. |
| 16:40.12 | Fiskersmas | i'm at 5,5k |
| 16:40.17 | Codayus | For example, on my server, I can make arcanoweave bracers for ~20g, which DE into large prismatics, which go for ~28g |
| 16:40.20 | Fiskersmas | i'm earning |
| 16:40.24 | Gngsk | you can turn green gems into large brilliants though, if you have some other mats |
| 16:40.26 | Fiskersmas | but it's a slow process |
| 16:40.28 | Codayus | On some servers, those numbers would be reversed. |
| 16:40.32 | Fiskersmas | so people who has more is obviously cheating :( |
| 16:42.20 | Codayus | Buying lvl 64+ green armor for up to 4.5g is also a good money maker on my server, but on some you'd lose money doing that, and on others you'd never find a green that cheap...so it goes. |
| 16:42.51 | Pkekyo| | bwahahahahha, guild named <Undead Can't Poo> |
| 16:43.24 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: they have to be below 2.5g to be profitable on my server :< |
| 16:43.51 | Fiskersmas | so what arcane dust is less than 1g worth on your server Codayus? |
| 16:46.12 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57494 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc): |
| 16:46.12 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 16:46.12 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 16:46.49 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some NPC just GAVE me a talasite |
| 16:46.58 | nevcairiel | in nagrand? |
| 16:47.23 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 16:47.34 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_122607_174522.jpg .. i deleted notes at the marked positions, and did a new optimize .. and i get that =P |
| 16:48.31 | Fiskersmas | busted! |
| 16:48.34 | Fiskersmas | They are precomputed! |
| 16:48.39 | Xinhuan | you know why? |
| 16:48.49 | Xinhuan | actually i dont' know |
| 16:48.53 | Xinhuan | just delete and recreate for now |
| 16:49.24 | nevcairiel | did a reload ui now, and running a new optimize |
| 16:49.29 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Are these Wowhead nodes? |
| 16:49.41 | Xinhuan | wowhead nodes aren't that stupid ;p |
| 16:49.52 | Polarina | Just asking. :) |
| 16:49.57 | nevcairiel | no, self gathered |
| 16:50.01 | nevcairiel | or guild shared |
| 16:50.01 | Xinhuan | also wowhead has farm more nodes than that |
| 16:50.05 | Polarina | nevcairiel: :D |
| 16:50.06 | Xinhuan | far* |
| 16:50.41 | Xinhuan | route nodes aren't checked to see if they match any databases |
| 16:51.00 | Xinhuan | only on the initial creation, i retrieve the nodeXYs |
| 16:51.04 | Fiskersmas | to make arcanoweave here is 30g best case scenario |
| 16:53.34 | Pkekyo| | meh, really need epic flyer to farm ores |
| 16:53.55 | Pkekyo| | there's some fucking chinese dongjob on a netherdrake infront of me grabbing all the nodes |
| 16:54.24 | Xinhuan | so start flying in the opposite direction, nub |
| 16:54.25 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:54.37 | nevcairiel | you still lose with a slow flyer |
| 16:54.54 | Fiskersmas | be a paladin |
| 16:55.15 | cncfanatics | riding crop does the same as a pala |
| 16:55.35 | nevcairiel | pala is more then riding crop |
| 16:55.43 | nevcairiel | pala is 20%, crop only 10 |
| 16:55.46 | Xinhuan | they stack :D |
| 16:55.50 | cncfanatics | they don't |
| 16:55.56 | nevcairiel | they're not supposed to according to the tooltip |
| 16:56.00 | Xinhuan | hmm maybe they don't |
| 16:56.06 | cncfanatics | crop + carrot on a stick + spurs = pala |
| 16:56.09 | Xinhuan | whats 410% x 120%? |
| 16:56.15 | Codayus | Arcane dust sells regularly at 1.4g |
| 16:56.23 | Codayus | On my server. |
| 16:56.27 | Xinhuan | crop and carrot and spurs don't stack btw ;p |
| 16:56.43 | Xinhuan | well they do stack, but the limit you can stack to is 10% |
| 16:56.48 | cncfanatics | it is ? :o |
| 16:56.49 | Fiskersmas | here the market price for netherweave cloth is 4,5g and arcane dust 2g |
| 16:56.50 | cncfanatics | why is that ? |
| 16:56.52 | Xinhuan | since crop is already 10% |
| 16:56.54 | nevcairiel | (for the record, i just imported the wowhead notes for terokkar, and i didnt get any more. guess it just looks less because i scalled the icons down) |
| 16:56.56 | Xinhuan | because blizzard said so |
| 16:57.00 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.07 | Xinhuan | a blue posted on this a few months back |
| 16:57.11 | Xinhuan | that its capped at 10% |
| 16:57.11 | Fiskersmas | it's still pays as our large prismatic shards are expensive as well |
| 16:57.20 | Xinhuan | and that you can safely delete your carrot/spurs |
| 16:57.21 | cncfanatics | 30g / shard on kazzak :p |
| 16:57.24 | Xinhuan | if you have a crop |
| 16:57.26 | cncfanatics | so |
| 16:57.29 | cncfanatics | its capped at 10% |
| 16:57.30 | Fiskersmas | 38 / shard here |
| 16:57.32 | cncfanatics | but palas can go at 20% |
| 16:57.33 | cncfanatics | oh so logic |
| 16:57.38 | mort | netherweave sells for 3g here, you are better off making bandages |
| 16:57.39 | cncfanatics | CAPPED -.- |
| 16:57.41 | Xinhuan | yeah palas is the exception |
| 16:57.49 | Xinhuan | you still need to spend talent points on that |
| 16:57.53 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 16:57.54 | nevcairiel | all item bonus is capped at 10% |
| 16:57.57 | Xinhuan | that's the running one |
| 16:58.10 | Codayus | Netherweave is usually 3g or so on my server, I regularly find it for less... |
| 16:58.24 | Xinhuan | WHOA WHOA my /run Cartographer_Routes:QueueFirstNode() |
| 16:58.25 | Xinhuan | WORKS |
| 16:58.33 | Fiskersmas | well minimum is 2,25g |
| 16:58.35 | cncfanatics | XInhuan, what does it do ? |
| 16:58.37 | Fiskersmas | or people are retarded |
| 16:58.38 | nevcairiel | MAN, that auto fadeout of the rock config is so fucking annoying |
| 16:58.41 | Xinhuan | it does a |
| 16:58.42 | Xinhuan | local a, b, c = self:FindClosestVisibleRoute() |
| 16:58.42 | Fiskersmas | well it actually has to be above 2,25g |
| 16:58.47 | Fiskersmas | something like 2,5g |
| 16:58.51 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, disable it ? |
| 16:58.55 | Xinhuan | where a = zone, b = routename, c = nodenumber |
| 16:59.02 | Xinhuan | and then i queue that node into _waypoints |
| 16:59.04 | cncfanatics | what when multiple routes overlap ? |
| 16:59.20 | Xinhuan | i don't care if they overlap, it finds the closest one |
| 16:59.31 | cncfanatics | if they are on the exact same pixel |
| 16:59.37 | Xinhuan | then it returns the first one |
| 16:59.46 | Codayus | Fiskersmas: 1 stack heavy netherweave bandages vedors for 6g, and takes 2 stacks of netherweave to make. So the "vendor value" of netherweave is 3g/stack. I see it for less fairly commonly. |
| 17:00.03 | cncfanatics | it should do this if it finds overlapping routes imo: while true do end |
| 17:00.18 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: it still hides behind the carto map if i accidently leave the frame with the mouse |
| 17:00.20 | nevcairiel | its teh suck |
| 17:00.26 | cncfanatics | go into the code |
| 17:00.32 | cncfanatics | and disable the SetScript hook |
| 17:00.35 | cncfanatics | thats what I did :p |
| 17:00.46 | nevcairiel | wtb routes for Carto(Ace2) |
| 17:01.03 | Lukian | nevcairiel, never XD |
| 17:01.03 | Gngsk | you wish :\ |
| 17:01.12 | Lukian | You must update if you want sex1 |
| 17:01.14 | Xinhuan | all i did was a big ass for loop |
| 17:01.15 | Xinhuan | local x, y = Cartographer_Notes.getXY(route_data.route[i]) |
| 17:01.15 | Xinhuan | local dist = Cartographer:GetDistanceToPoint(x, y, zone) |
| 17:01.18 | Xinhuan | then compare dist |
| 17:01.22 | Xinhuan | for every node |
| 17:01.29 | Fiskersmas | however Codayus |
| 17:01.34 | Fiskersmas | if i as much as get a void crystal |
| 17:01.36 | Fiskersmas | I WILL DESTROY YOU |
| 17:01.55 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, you can convert routes to ace2 :) |
| 17:02.07 | Xinhuan | but it may take you 2 months to do so lol |
| 17:02.15 | nevcairiel | how is that? |
| 17:02.27 | nevcairiel | (and that other guy you were working with said he wouldnt allow it) |
| 17:02.51 | Codayus | Fiskersmas: ? |
| 17:02.55 | cncfanatics | he wouldn't allow you to release it nevcairiel |
| 17:03.02 | cncfanatics | doesn't mean you can't convert it |
| 17:03.08 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, why would it take 2 months ? |
| 17:03.10 | Xinhuan | well, you can make direct changes to cartographer_routes to support both |
| 17:03.18 | Fiskersmas | void crystals are worth shit |
| 17:03.22 | Xinhuan | he just doesn't want you to fork a complete separate addon |
| 17:03.37 | nevcairiel | Carto2 supports the old Carto1 modules too |
| 17:03.38 | nevcairiel | so.. |
| 17:03.38 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:03.41 | Lukian | Fiskersmas, we roll for shards at the end of instances/heroics |
| 17:03.48 | Fiskersmas | so_ |
| 17:03.50 | Fiskersmas | ? |
| 17:03.51 | Xinhuan | if you look inside route's core.lua |
| 17:03.52 | Lukian | and the top rolls get shards, next rolls get voids :p |
| 17:04.00 | Fiskersmas | once got 3 void crystals :( |
| 17:04.01 | Xinhuan | you'll notice the first half of the file is Rock-independant |
| 17:04.04 | Fiskersmas | 1 from a blue |
| 17:04.06 | Fiskersmas | and 2 from the epic |
| 17:04.14 | Xinhuan | the second half is just 1000+ lines of aceopt table |
| 17:04.18 | Xinhuan | for RockConfig |
| 17:04.31 | Xinhuan | so only that part needs to be re-written for ace2 |
| 17:04.31 | nevcairiel | the config is pretty much compatible to Ace2 |
| 17:04.54 | Xinhuan | not really, the grouping concept is new to rockconfig |
| 17:04.58 | Codayus | Voids are still relatively valuable in my server... |
| 17:05.03 | Xinhuan | so you'll have to remove those layers |
| 17:05.12 | Xinhuan | and redo some of the calls to refresh rockconfig |
| 17:05.19 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: cart_routes your work? |
| 17:05.24 | Xinhuan | yes Pkekyo| |
| 17:05.34 | Pkekyo| | does it include caves in the routes? |
| 17:05.34 | Fiskersmas | :O Codayus |
| 17:05.43 | Fiskersmas | i had to reauction mine |
| 17:05.44 | Xinhuan | yes it does Pkekyo| |
| 17:05.46 | Fiskersmas | i had it up for 8g |
| 17:05.58 | Xinhuan | it uses whatever data is in your _mining/_herb |
| 17:06.02 | Lukian | Fiskersmas, LOL only 8g? |
| 17:06.05 | Xinhuan | so if its in a cave, i can't do much about it |
| 17:06.07 | Lukian | How much do shards sell for? |
| 17:06.13 | Codayus | Voids are ~17g on my server. |
| 17:06.27 | Codayus | Large prismatics maybe.. ~26, although I bought a stack for 20g each last week. |
| 17:06.36 | Lukian | yeah, 20-22g here |
| 17:06.43 | Fiskersmas | they were 6-7g earlier |
| 17:06.49 | Fiskersmas | but now they're 15-20g |
| 17:06.58 | Fiskersmas | probably because someone bought it all and wanted to earn money for it |
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| 17:07.07 | Codayus | (And already resold half for 28g each. Wee.) |
| 17:07.46 | Fiskersmas | back before 2.3 where you could sort by price i found 5 stacks from the same person for 20g |
| 17:08.02 | Fiskersmas | sold a lot of them for 35g and the rest for 30g |
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| 17:08.20 | Fiskersmas | 20g each of course not the whole stack :P |
| 17:08.58 | Fiskersmas | was funny when 2.3 hit |
| 17:09.00 | Lukian | void crystals: 15g each and prismatics at 30g :D |
| 17:09.06 | Lukian | (4am) |
| 17:09.09 | Fiskersmas | large prismatics peaked 40g each |
| 17:09.17 | kaiden | i should SOOO sell mine |
| 17:09.20 | kaiden | i have 60 of them banked |
| 17:09.26 | Matrix110 | void crystals like 7g prismatics 42g :P |
| 17:09.33 | Fiskersmas | sold mine as well |
| 17:09.36 | Fiskersmas | only had like 10 though |
| 17:09.44 | Fiskersmas | then a week after i needed 6 or so for an enchant |
| 17:09.50 | Fiskersmas | and had to buy it back at the same awful price :( |
| 17:09.55 | Pkekyo| | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 17:09.56 | Lukian | hehe |
| 17:10.03 | Pkekyo| | I got netherweave cloth off a mineral node O.o |
| 17:10.05 | Lukian | that's why I rarely sell enchanting mats |
| 17:10.10 | Lukian | bahaha |
| 17:10.12 | Lukian | grats |
| 17:10.12 | Fiskersmas | yeah |
| 17:10.22 | Fiskersmas | i think i'll have to start saving up for WotLK as well |
| 17:10.27 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57495 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Add some functions to integrate _Waypoints support in. No GUI or slash commands available yet. |
| 17:10.38 | Xinhuan | well nevcairiel, are you up for the challenge to convert routes to ace2? ;d |
| 17:10.50 | Lukian | why not ace3? :p |
| 17:10.57 | Lukian | ace2 will be dead .. soonish |
| 17:10.59 | nevcairiel | in one addon? that would probably really need two seperate options tables |
| 17:11.01 | Fiskersmas | was an absolute nightmare to go 200-300 after tbc came |
| 17:11.05 | cncfanatics | Lukian, because Xinhuan will do that himself eventualy probably |
| 17:11.08 | Xinhuan | yes nevcairiel |
| 17:11.14 | Codayus | Reading patch notes can be the biggest moneymaker. |
| 17:11.14 | Xinhuan | no, i can't convert it to ace3 |
| 17:11.23 | Xinhuan | because it is still reliant on cartographer as the base addon |
| 17:11.27 | Xinhuan | which is rock |
| 17:11.39 | Fiskersmas | there's an ace-branch still going on |
| 17:11.40 | Codayus | Prices spike crazily every time a new recipe is patched in... |
| 17:11.41 | Xinhuan | also the db formats for ace3 and rock are different |
| 17:11.43 | nevcairiel | you could .. once Mapster is more finished like, and Ammo got his new herb/mining addon done =P |
| 17:11.48 | Xinhuan | while ace2 and rock db formats are the same |
| 17:12.11 | Xinhuan | well ammo will have to collaborate with me for that |
| 17:12.27 | Xinhuan | as for an ace2 port, you can figure out if its even worth the trouble |
| 17:12.29 | Xinhuan | to do it |
| 17:12.43 | nevcairiel | i'll probably wait for better times |
| 17:12.54 | Xinhuan | what i can tell you though, is that i've learnt heaps about ace2 AND rock while doing this addon |
| 17:13.07 | Xinhuan | i think cncfanatics is the only other person that even wrote a rock addon |
| 17:13.19 | nevcairiel | i use Mapster most of the time anyway, only when i go herbing i activate Carto |
| 17:13.32 | nevcairiel | and i can easily active Carto_rock instead of my CartoAce2 :P |
| 17:13.40 | Xinhuan | btw, can you test out my latest commit |
| 17:13.46 | Xinhuan | xinhuan * r57495 Cartographer_Routes |
| 17:13.53 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: I've written lots of small rock addons |
| 17:14.15 | Xinhuan | KivinSan, i mean largish ones ;p |
| 17:14.28 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, the command to test is /run Cartographer_Routes:QueueFirstNode() |
| 17:14.43 | Xinhuan | you need to be in a zone with at least one visible route for it to do anything |
| 17:14.46 | Xinhuan | and _waypoints active |
| 17:14.47 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: I've used every single mixin at some point in time :P |
| 17:15.03 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: doh, it goes in the direction i just came from =P |
| 17:15.07 | Xinhuan | you do /run Cartographer_Routes:ChangeWaypointDirection() |
| 17:15.10 | Xinhuan | to change direction |
| 17:15.21 | Xinhuan | and /run Cartographer_Routes:RemoveQueuedNode() |
| 17:15.25 | Xinhuan | to stop it |
| 17:15.33 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 17:15.37 | Xinhuan | if all these 3 functions work, then i can start adding in a GUI for it |
| 17:15.57 | nevcairiel | it says "Node 181", any chance you can set the text to the node type? (if you store that info) |
| 17:16.10 | Xinhuan | i didn't store that info |
| 17:16.26 | Xinhuan | i only stored [nodenumber from 1 to N] = nodeXY |
| 17:16.28 | Xinhuan | in the table |
| 17:16.45 | Xinhuan | nodeXY is the coordinate in ID form |
| 17:16.47 | nevcairiel | oh well, guess that doesnt really matter :) |
| 17:16.57 | Xinhuan | its just a test at the moment |
| 17:17.39 | Xinhuan | check if you have the "show waypoint on minimap" on in your _waypoints options |
| 17:17.51 | Xinhuan | if you have it on, it shows up a little X in your minimap as the next node to fly to |
| 17:18.08 | Pkekyo| | seriously, today I've seen a lvl 67 mob drop runecloth, an NPC -gave- me a blue gem for no reason, and adamantite deposit dropped netherweave O.o |
| 17:18.08 | Pkekyo| | this is quite a day |
| 17:18.39 | nevcairiel | ya its working great |
| 17:18.55 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, an npc gave you a blue gem ? |
| 17:19.00 | cncfanatics | the consortium ? |
| 17:19.10 | Pkekyo| | prolly |
| 17:19.14 | Pkekyo| | some shady guy down in nagrand |
| 17:19.20 | cncfanatics | yea, the consortium |
| 17:19.21 | Codayus | Sounds like them. |
| 17:19.22 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if i remembered to get my consortium benefits this month .. i cant remember |
| 17:19.24 | cncfanatics | you get gems every month from em |
| 17:19.29 | cncfanatics | just go there once a month for free gems |
| 17:19.31 | Pkekyo| | wtf what |
| 17:19.33 | Pkekyo| | why? O.o |
| 17:19.43 | cncfanatics | its your payment cuz you work for em |
| 17:19.44 | kergoth | Pkekyo|, it's a "membership benefit" |
| 17:19.48 | Xinhuan | you need friendly or above |
| 17:19.49 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 17:20.00 | Xinhuan | i'm exalted and i've got worse gems than friendly ppl before |
| 17:20.01 | Pkekyo| | I work for them? |
| 17:20.04 | kergoth | i should do a teeny addon to pester me until i go get my benefits each new month |
| 17:20.20 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, daily instances are stuff you do for the consortium :) |
| 17:20.31 | cncfanatics | and you are above friendly with em to get gems, so you did help them at some point ^^ |
| 17:20.34 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, how do you think i can do a GUI for this waypoints thing |
| 17:20.35 | Pkekyo| | but...I don't do dailies? |
| 17:20.41 | Lukian | kergoth, that'd be great :D |
| 17:21.06 | Pkekyo| | fair enough, got any explanation for the other events? |
| 17:21.25 | cncfanatics | you fail in life |
| 17:21.26 | kergoth | is there a wowhead nodes db for carto mining/herbalism floating around? |
| 17:21.36 | Xinhuan | yes kergoth, its called _Data |
| 17:21.37 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 17:21.39 | cncfanatics | kergoth: Cartographer_data ... |
| 17:21.56 | Xinhuan | its uploaded weekly by ominous who runs the wowhead data miner |
| 17:22.13 | cncfanatics | and its god damn accurate :p |
| 17:22.46 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 17:22.56 | thul | marcel proust rocks. |
| 17:23.18 | cncfanatics | whats the latest patch atm ? 2.3.0 ? |
| 17:24.15 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 17:24.50 | Matrix110 | hopefully at 1. or 8. we get 2.3.2 |
| 17:24.57 | Matrix110 | its tested for ages already and has almost nochanges |
| 17:25.02 | shieldb | 2.3.0.7561 is what mine comes up as at home |
| 17:26.24 | cncfanatics | 50% of the patch dl'd |
| 17:26.25 | cncfanatics | come on |
| 17:27.06 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/ ? |
| 17:27.07 | cncfanatics | is down ? |
| 17:27.10 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 17:28.24 | Pkekyo| | who killed wowace? |
| 17:28.26 | cncfanatics | Current Total in EUR: â¬6,75 EUR :o, I'm rich ! :p |
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| 17:29.27 | Pkekyo| | best zone for farming adamantite? |
| 17:30.12 | Gngsk | the one that you're alone in |
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| 17:31.26 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo| , Nagrand |
| 17:32.52 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkNxYaULBw |
| 17:33.57 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta !!! |
| 17:34.04 | QuantumDelta | hello good sir |
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| 17:34.32 | cncfanatics | its sire for plateys :) |
| 17:34.36 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57496 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Herbalism: frFR Update |
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| 17:35.49 | QuantumDelta | pssh! |
| 17:35.52 | QuantumDelta | I am a sire! |
| 17:36.31 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57497 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Mining: frFR Update |
| 17:37.06 | kergoth | hmm, lots of addons show what characters have what items, but i want a little one to also show me what characters are currently trying to auction that item, and how many |
| 17:37.45 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57498 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (Cartographer_Fishing.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Fishing: frFR Update |
| 17:38.07 | Xinhuan | that's tricky to implement |
| 17:38.08 | cncfanatics | kergoth, you have to suicide before you can find such an addon |
| 17:38.17 | Lukian | kergoth, pester Xinhuan :) |
| 17:38.22 | Xinhuan | since you won't know when the auction is successful |
| 17:38.24 | Xinhuan | or fail |
| 17:38.56 | Lukian | do you no longer get "your auction of x has sold" messages? |
| 17:39.06 | Xinhuan | what if you're offline? |
| 17:39.18 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57499 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (Cartographer_ExtractGas.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_ExtractGas: frFR Update |
| 17:39.49 | MedlirWork | Anyone have an URL to the latest updater that works, since www.* doesn't seem to be working? |
| 17:39.52 | Lukian | aye |
| 17:40.02 | Lukian | MedlirWork, wait for it :p |
| 17:40.08 | kergoth | for me, itd be most useful to know if it knows that a given item -isnt- being auctioned by any of my characters just then, since i craft and sell the same group of items repeatedly, its easy to lose track of what i've got up just then and what hasnt yet sold |
| 17:40.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:40.33 | Xinhuan | that sounds cryptic |
| 17:40.37 | Xinhuan | can you simplify :D |
| 17:40.43 | MedlirWork | Feh. I'll pull it off my home system if I have to. Was just hoping it was mirrored on files.* somewhere since that seems to be fine. |
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| 17:44.06 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: er, was eating =P just a bunch of buttons to start, stop, switch direction? easy accessable pls :) |
| 17:44.27 | Xinhuan | where would the buttons go |
| 17:44.34 | Xinhuan | On the routesFu plugin? |
| 17:45.37 | nevcairiel | that would be nice |
| 17:45.38 | nevcairiel | plus on the options table somewhere, for people that dont use routesfu |
| 17:46.01 | Xinhuan | i'll chuck it on routesFu first and see if it works |
| 17:46.22 | nevcairiel | (i suppose routesfu uses fubarplugin-3.0 and not 2.0?) |
| 17:47.12 | Xinhuan | that is correct, so its kinda gay |
| 17:47.20 | Xinhuan | because you dont' really want to right click it |
| 17:47.34 | Xinhuan | it uses a tablet on mouseover, and everything operates on the tablet atm |
| 17:47.46 | Xinhuan | the lines are clickable, like VolumeFu |
| 17:48.01 | Xinhuan | know what i mean? |
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| 17:51.45 | nevcairiel | i've never really used fubar3, only heard reports about it being stupid and always opening the rock gui |
| 17:52.38 | Xinhuan | do you use the rocked version of clockfu? |
| 17:52.45 | kaiden | yeah i have issues with it opening that gui when i missclick |
| 17:52.47 | kaiden | annoys me to no end |
| 17:52.53 | Xinhuan | that is the only plugin that is converted to rock |
| 17:53.09 | Xinhuan | so right clicking it opens up the big ass menu |
| 17:53.33 | nevcairiel | only rock thing i use now is carto |
| 17:53.36 | mattswell | is the wowace website down |
| 17:53.40 | nevcairiel | and only for routes |
| 17:54.46 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: good girl |
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| 17:55.22 | Funkeh` | I always found tablet pointless |
| 17:55.24 | Funkeh` | in carto |
| 17:55.57 | Funkeh` | Then again I always disliked tablet ingeneral, I hacked up my addons so I didn't need to use it |
| 17:55.59 | nevcairiel | anyway its kinda funny to follow a route for herbing :D |
| 17:56.20 | Funkeh` | Yeah will prob write an external mapster notes module when I cba |
| 17:56.45 | Funkeh` | Then someone can built round that |
| 17:56.51 | Funkeh` | build* |
| 17:57.00 | nevcairiel | ammo will write his pinpoint again |
| 17:57.06 | nevcairiel | so dont bother |
| 17:57.12 | Funkeh` | ammo slacks too much |
| 17:58.16 | Pkekyo| | what's the current patch? |
| 17:58.18 | Pkekyo| | 2.3? |
| 17:58.28 | Funkeh` | impending 2.3.2 this week iirc? |
| 17:58.45 | QuantumDelta | doubtful |
| 17:58.52 | Funkeh` | no its not |
| 17:59.00 | Funkeh` | considering they are coding 2.3.3 now |
| 17:59.08 | Funkeh` | 2.3.2 is most likely code closed |
| 17:59.24 | QuantumDelta | on an international holiday week? :P |
| 17:59.53 | Funkeh` | you think servers will stay online? |
| 18:00.01 | Funkeh` | if its ready, they usually take em offline anyway |
| 18:00.07 | nevcairiel | they already said only rolling restarts |
| 18:00.13 | nevcairiel | for the holidays |
| 18:00.22 | Funkeh` | hmm, ok |
| 18:01.34 | QuantumDelta | It takes full staff for them to do patches since they have to take all realms down, do a full maintenance cycle, install, do another full maint cycle and power back up |
| 18:02.31 | KivinSan | Every time I fire my crossbow on my hunter, I get a massive FPS drop... only happens on him ._. |
| 18:02.43 | QuantumDelta | fired a different weapon on him? |
| 18:02.52 | Funkeh` | Probably a bag/ammo addon |
| 18:02.59 | KivinSan | Funkeh`: that's what I guessed |
| 18:03.02 | KivinSan | shutting off arkinv |
| 18:03.15 | QuantumDelta | Got a swing timer addon? |
| 18:03.15 | Funkeh` | Cumbuctor > * |
| 18:03.20 | KivinSan | QuantumDelta: negative |
| 18:03.32 | Funkeh` | um, swing timers fire on ranged attacks? |
| 18:03.36 | QuantumDelta | yup ^^ |
| 18:03.39 | KivinSan | of course |
| 18:03.39 | cncfanatics | yea, that exists |
| 18:03.48 | Funkeh` | :s |
| 18:03.50 | QuantumDelta | they get a bit funky sometimes |
| 18:03.52 | QuantumDelta | giggle |
| 18:04.01 | Funkeh` | I imagine |
| 18:04.17 | Funkeh` | Surely they get wierd when using certain abilities |
| 18:04.25 | KivinSan | It's not arkinventory |
| 18:04.35 | QuantumDelta | The same way swing timers work with special attacks funkeh |
| 18:04.48 | Pkekyo| | ding, 100 adamantite ores! |
| 18:04.50 | cncfanatics | tbh, its perfectly predictible |
| 18:04.52 | QuantumDelta | Mortal strike resets swing timers in the same way that shots reset auto-shot timers ;p |
| 18:04.54 | Funkeh` | QuantumDelta, I've never used one because I always found the melee one rubbish ;p |
| 18:05.06 | Funkeh` | I prefer just my own judgement |
| 18:05.11 | QuantumDelta | Quartz is a good swing timer :< |
| 18:06.18 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 18:06.37 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 18:07.10 | Pkekyo| | any idea why cart_routes dissapear anytime I enter a cave? |
| 18:07.22 | Xinhuan | because its programmed not to show any routes when indoors |
| 18:07.43 | Funkeh` | Most stuff hides when indoors anyway? herbs and such |
| 18:07.53 | Funkeh` | blips, should I say |
| 18:07.54 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 18:08.16 | KivinSan | Think I have the culprit: Hawksy's Recap damage meter |
| 18:08.33 | nevcairiel | the blips stay when they're in the cave with you |
| 18:08.33 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 18:08.41 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, yeah ofc |
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| 18:10.16 | Osstia | Pkekyo| start prospecting :) |
| 18:10.33 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: just found a prospector |
| 18:10.51 | Osstia | Do you tip? |
| 18:11.12 | Osstia | I have a good friend that I log onto their account to prostpect, I wouldn't know what to do if I had someone else do it |
| 18:11.41 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: slightly.... guildie prospector |
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| 18:14.46 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: is it intended that it stops the route after one full circle? |
| 18:14.53 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't |
| 18:14.56 | Xinhuan | it should loop forever |
| 18:15.09 | nevcairiel | i didnt get a new waypoint when i reached the point where i started |
| 18:15.17 | Xinhuan | that's odd |
| 18:15.32 | Xinhuan | because if you look in the code, there's no such code that checks where you started |
| 18:15.39 | Xinhuan | last 50 lines or so in core.lua |
| 18:15.50 | nevcairiel | maybe it was another node, but somewhere close to where i started |
| 18:15.57 | nevcairiel | i was eating in between, not 100% sure :P |
| 18:16.10 | Xinhuan | it sounds like you have a broken route |
| 18:16.15 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: what you talking about? I just get a heap of lines all over the map |
| 18:16.59 | Xinhuan | the waypoints should never end until you call :RemoveQueuedNode() |
| 18:17.31 | Pkekyo| | waypoints? |
| 18:17.39 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 18:17.43 | nevcairiel | weird |
| 18:17.47 | nevcairiel | i didnt touch the notes |
| 18:17.59 | nevcairiel | i didnt even gather a new one |
| 18:18.05 | Xinhuan | oh i think i have a typo |
| 18:18.10 | Xinhuan | elseif node_num <= 1 then |
| 18:18.10 | Xinhuan | node_num = #route_table.route |
| 18:18.15 | Xinhuan | that should be < |
| 18:18.17 | Xinhuan | not <= |
| 18:18.34 | Pkekyo| | how do you get waypoints? |
| 18:18.46 | Xinhuan | that would cause it to jump from node 2 to node N |
| 18:19.02 | Xinhuan | but still, it should never end, in a circle |
| 18:19.09 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, no GUI available for it yet |
| 18:19.12 | Xinhuan | just /script |
| 18:19.24 | Xinhuan | do /script Cartographer_Routes:QueueFirstNode() |
| 18:19.40 | Xinhuan | you will need the latest version on svn for both _routes and _waypoints |
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| 18:20.20 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, just add a slashcommand ? --.-- |
| 18:20.21 | cncfanatics | so easy to do |
| 18:20.47 | Pkekyo| | then I'll just bugger off and follow the lines on the map instead |
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| 18:21.06 | Xinhuan | i haven't added anything yet cnc, its in testing phase |
| 18:21.51 | Industrial | whered wowace go |
| 18:22.07 | Xinhuan | it died |
| 18:24.36 | Provus | Does anyone know why Mik's Scrolling Battle Text doesn't cover mana drains? |
| 18:24.40 | KivinSan | The other day, I heard someone talking about big FPS spikes when their pet spawns/despawns... anyone know who that was? |
| 18:25.20 | vithos | that was me |
| 18:25.26 | KivinSan | And what did you come up with? |
| 18:26.07 | vithos | it's ParserLib-4.0, and can be reproduced with Threat-1.0 and Parrot both running, but not either one seperately |
| 18:26.19 | KivinSan | Well that's just bizarre |
| 18:26.29 | KivinSan | Let me shut off omen and see what happens |
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| 18:27.39 | vithos | gah, mixed up the name again. LibParser-4.0 |
| 18:27.45 | KivinSan | Yeah, I knew what you meant |
| 18:28.09 | KivinSan | Still massive 2 second spike w/o omen running... wait, pitbull uses threat, too, doesn't it? |
| 18:28.18 | vithos | yeah |
| 18:28.34 | KivinSan | Okay, so i can't make threat go away... gonna have to be parrot. bai bai, parrot |
| 18:28.40 | vithos | for me it was only 800ms with cpu profiling turned on |
| 18:28.54 | KivinSan | my computer is a dinosaur |
| 18:29.01 | Xinhuan | do you have more than 1 parseribs running? |
| 18:29.03 | KivinSan | and i'm running a hundred addons |
| 18:29.03 | Xinhuan | parserlibs |
| 18:29.10 | KivinSan | yeah |
| 18:29.16 | KivinSan | i've got 3.0 and 4.0 |
| 18:29.16 | Xinhuan | disable parser-1.0 and parser3.0 |
| 18:29.22 | Xinhuan | disable both of those |
| 18:29.28 | Xinhuan | at the login screen |
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| 18:29.37 | vithos | i have just 3.0 and 4.0 |
| 18:29.41 | vithos | i'll try disabling 3.0 |
| 18:29.49 | KivinSan | God... fracking WAU updated with externals even though I told it not to; i could have a hundred copies of parser for all I know |
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| 18:31.23 | KivinSan | All of Ck's addons are setup with externals... time to purify them |
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| 18:32.55 | Pkekyo| | I'm the most unlucky fucking person EVER! |
| 18:33.03 | Pkekyo| | 20 adamantite prospects |
| 18:33.11 | Pkekyo| | 1x talasite and 1x living fucking ruby, that's it |
| 18:33.22 | KivinSan | that ore or bars? |
| 18:33.37 | Pkekyo| | ores |
| 18:33.39 | Pkekyo| | 100 ores |
| 18:33.50 | Xinhuan | you got unlucky |
| 18:33.54 | Xinhuan | that's below avg ;d |
| 18:33.58 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: this is how lucky I am in general |
| 18:34.46 | KivinSan | OK... no more externals. now to really see if parser-3.0 is getting used |
| 18:35.02 | Pkekyo| | feel like slitting my fucking throat...spent all day farming those adamantite ores |
| 18:35.17 | KivinSan | you could just sell them on the AH =.= |
| 18:35.24 | KivinSan | as bars... |
| 18:35.24 | [Liq] | So, I have this idea for a great movie. It's about two Gnomes who find a bracelet of power, and they have to take it to the Burning Steppes and cast it into The Cauldron. They form the Brotherhood of the Bracelet. Along the way, they're trailed by a murloc named Gottom who's obsessed with the bracelet, and nine bracelet bogeymen. It could be a three parter called "Ruler of the Bracelet". The first part would be called "The Brotherhood of the Bracelet", fol |
| 18:35.52 | Pkekyo| | KivinSan: 'cause that'd be worth the investment? hell no |
| 18:35.55 | Xinhuan | what is your estimated production fee? |
| 18:36.07 | KivinSan | Pkekyo|: ... |
| 18:36.15 | HIghoS | I am interested in your great movie. How do I subscribe? |
| 18:36.36 | Gngsk | human male silly ! |
| 18:37.45 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuanwhat is your estimated production fee? <---- yet again, a day of farming - bars go for less than 1g on my server |
| 18:38.01 | Xinhuan | i was referring to [Liq] |
| 18:38.02 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 18:38.03 | purl | :/ |
| 18:38.05 | [Liq] | heh |
| 18:38.18 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 18:38.33 | vithos | Xinhuan: still spikes just the same without 3.0 enabled |
| 18:38.57 | Xinhuan | i dunno then, parserlib shouldn't even have anything to do with pets ressing |
| 18:39.37 | vithos | well, all i'm doing is mounting/dismounting with the pet out |
| 18:39.59 | vithos | i'll check again and make sure it doesn't happen with no pet |
| 18:40.04 | Pkekyo| | did another 9 prospects...NO blues |
| 18:40.06 | Pkekyo| | fucksake |
| 18:40.08 | KivinSan | I confirm vithos' observations |
| 18:40.33 | [Liq] | vithos, it's simple: PLay with 0 Addons. |
| 18:40.43 | KivinSan | oh, the irony. |
| 18:40.49 | KivinSan | (considering where you just said that) |
| 18:41.19 | vithos | yeah, only with the pet spawning and despawning |
| 18:41.32 | KivinSan | indeed |
| 18:41.40 | [Liq] | Just because you work with lua doesn't mean you have to play with it :) |
| 18:41.42 | vithos | LibParser-4.0 is also using 9+ seconds of CPU during a reloadui, is that expected? |
| 18:41.45 | KivinSan | parserlib3 is shut off and it is repeatable 100% of the time |
| 18:42.11 | Xinhuan | i don't have a pet class, so i can't debug it ;p |
| 18:43.08 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: arent you a mage? |
| 18:43.27 | KivinSan | vithos: With some addons shut off, I would agree with your 800ms diagnostic. |
| 18:43.54 | Xinhuan | ya i'm a mage |
| 18:44.03 | [Liq] | use your WE |
| 18:44.08 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: so respec pet |
| 18:44.10 | Xinhuan | i can assure you i get no lagspikes when i use WE |
| 18:44.30 | [Liq] | commit your working verrsion then :> |
| 18:45.07 | vithos | KivinSan: you play a warlock or hunter? i'm hunter |
| 18:45.13 | KivinSan | hunter |
| 18:45.22 | KivinSan | I can try a warlock, but i'm not sure how to test it; i don't have a mount |
| 18:45.27 | Xinhuan | my version is the same one you get from wowace ~_~ |
| 18:45.37 | KivinSan | vithos: does this occur when you dismiss and recall your pet? |
| 18:45.55 | [Liq] | KivinSan, list your installed addons and I'll try with my hunter/warlock/mage/priest |
| 18:45.57 | vithos | i believe so, but i've been avoiding that due to the food cost. i'll make sure i'm remembering correctly |
| 18:45.59 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: two blues in 30 prospect...below average? |
| 18:46.07 | KivinSan | vithos: it does |
| 18:46.14 | KivinSan | i'll try it on warlock |
| 18:46.16 | Xinhuan | the average is 22% propspecting rate for rares |
| 18:46.26 | Xinhuan | or 1 in 4.5 or so |
| 18:46.36 | Xinhuan | you should have 7 blues |
| 18:46.39 | Xinhuan | not 2 |
| 18:46.53 | Pkekyo| | blizz are conspiring against me |
| 18:47.00 | Xinhuan | also my 22% figure comes from prospecting 134k ore since patch 2.1 release |
| 18:47.17 | vithos | yes, it does on call pet and dismiss pet |
| 18:47.18 | Xinhuan | i hope you mean adamantite ore |
| 18:47.52 | KivinSan | vithos: Yes, it occurs when summoning a warlock pet, and dismissing it |
| 18:48.30 | Xinhuan | when has this lagspike started? |
| 18:48.54 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: Regretably, I can't really say; I've not been playing my hunter for a long time. |
| 18:50.17 | vithos | i'd say it's been happening for ages, i just now got bothered enough by it to try to figure it out |
| 18:50.48 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57500 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 18:50.48 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 18:50.48 | CIA-8 | - Let the waypoint related functions fail silently if _Waypoints is not enabled or found. |
| 18:50.48 | CIA-8 | - Fix a typo. |
| 18:50.59 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: yes, adamantite ore |
| 18:51.16 | vithos | i don't remember it ever not being like this, but i just attributed it to the sum of 200 addons and didn't figure it was just one |
| 18:52.34 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57501 10FuBar_RoutesFu/ (RoutesFu.lua RoutesFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_RoutesFu: Add Cartographer_Waypoints support - quick Start/Stop and Change direction menu buttons. |
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| 18:54.35 | CIA-8 | 03zuno * r57502 10UnitActionBars2/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:54.35 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 18:54.35 | CIA-8 | - Another performance tweak with Activate. |
| 18:54.35 | CIA-8 | - Split config XML into separate files, to correspond to .lua code |
| 18:56.22 | Pkekyo| | blizz dissapoints me...no widescreen format loading screen |
| 18:56.40 | Wogroipl | aye that disappointed me at first too |
| 18:57.26 | KivinSan | It's possible this issue has always been there and it was just obfuscated behind all the other performance issues that I've since narrowed down and eliminated. |
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| 18:59.18 | Wogroipl | obfuscate... a very nice word that I never got taught in school :( |
| 18:59.46 | KivinSan | 1.to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy. |
| 18:59.57 | KivinSan | 2.to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information. |
| 19:00.06 | Wogroipl | thanks :) |
| 19:00.34 | KivinSan | Work with cryptographic algorithms a bit and that word pops up everywhere ;p |
| 19:01.45 | Pkekyo| | meh, bottomscanner takes too much time :< |
| 19:02.00 | Xinhuan | ~smack abc |
| 19:02.01 | purl | ACTION smacks abc upside the head. |
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| 19:05.06 | KivinSan | "ERROR: Can't find the name of the item on the hidden tooltip" What causes this error? |
| 19:07.54 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57503 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 19:07.54 | CIA-8 | Cartographer: - Add missing Cartographer_Waypoints:OnDisable() and changed :OnEnable() slightly so that the module actually enables and disables properly. |
| 19:07.54 | CIA-8 | ~smack Wobin |
| 19:07.55 | purl | ACTION smacks Wobin upside the head. |
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| 19:10.00 | Xinhuan | god, how does such sloppy programming get online |
| 19:10.09 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, most of the time ? |
| 19:15.35 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57504 10FuBar_RoutesFu/RoutesFu.lua: FuBar_RoutesFu: Upgrade to LibBabble-Zone-3.0 from Babble-Zone-2.2 |
| 19:16.32 | Fiskersmas | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111602820&sid=1 :D? |
| 19:17.30 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 19:17.54 | cncfanatics | stupid users ... |
| 19:18.33 | Xinhuan | the entire _Waypoints module is one big mess |
| 19:19.06 | cncfanatics | like a lot of stuff, Xinhuan :) |
| 19:20.19 | khangg | Xinhuan, i agree on that one |
| 19:21.38 | cncfanatics | brb yet another reboot |
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| 19:24.07 | [Liq] | sup with wowace.com ? |
| 19:24.31 | Xinhuan | it died |
| 19:24.40 | Xinhuan | however you can still use WAU or files.wowace.com to update |
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| 19:25.31 | vithos | until wau closes itself because it can't reach wowace.com, that is ;) |
| 19:25.48 | cncfanatics | anyone, how does running WoW in windowed mode with borders affect framerate ? |
| 19:26.38 | cncfanatics | anyone ? |
| 19:27.23 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, spikes |
| 19:28.27 | [Liq] | vithos, doesn't close on WinXp, it rather comes with an error forcing me to close it (yet I just continue with the errorframe minimized) |
| 19:28.36 | cncfanatics | I'm not on xp :) |
| 19:28.39 | vithos | i use windows xp |
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| 19:28.49 | [Liq] | vithos, unlucky you :) |
| 19:28.59 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, then? |
| 19:29.09 | vithos | and i also see that error occasionally |
| 19:29.42 | [Liq] | gawd, here I want to create a bigger project using ace for the first time and then I can't even load up the "Your first addon" article. |
| 19:29.52 | [Liq] | ace addon* |
| 19:29.59 | cncfanatics | [Liq], plenty of people here to help :p |
| 19:30.13 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, hehe you're funny :> |
| 19:30.24 | Ellipsis | whoa whoa, you guys are actually diagnosing the lag on warlock pet spawning? |
| 19:31.40 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, you'll get a bucket full of care from me for that one |
| 19:32.06 | Matrix110 | cncfanatics on my PC i miss about ~20fps |
| 19:32.51 | Matrix110 | already thought about going back to fullscreen but then i cant use Windows Flip:-( |
| 19:33.12 | cncfanatics | Matrix110, I can't lose 20fps, I don't have that |
| 19:33.17 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 19:33.28 | cncfanatics | I'm at 10,4 fps atm |
| 19:33.42 | [Liq] | I used to play windowed mode but the latest patches screwed that |
| 19:33.48 | Matrix110 | well for me it might be Vista64 dunno how much that affects fps rate |
| 19:33.57 | [Liq] | so now I'm forced to play with lowwer fps and some spikes |
| 19:34.02 | cncfanatics | still at 10 fps in windowed mode |
| 19:34.03 | Matrix110 | i used to play fullscreen but then i kept crashing everytime i alttabbed |
| 19:34.12 | cncfanatics | exact same fps |
| 19:34.13 | KivinSan | does fullscreen give higher FPS? |
| 19:34.14 | [Liq] | heh |
| 19:34.16 | cncfanatics | I even won 0,1 fps I think |
| 19:34.22 | [Liq] | yes it seems KivinSan |
| 19:34.23 | cncfanatics | probably because it has to render less pixels |
| 19:34.24 | [Liq] | Usually didn't |
| 19:34.34 | cncfanatics | I won 0,1 fps by going into windowed here |
| 19:34.41 | [Liq] | dont believe you |
| 19:34.58 | Matrix110 | as i said it might be vista64 here on my old PC and XP i had no fps change at all |
| 19:35.18 | Codayus | In my experience, full screen windowed mode is lower FPS than full screen non-windowed, without exception. |
| 19:35.19 | [Liq] | well im on a notebook :) might be the reason |
| 19:35.23 | vithos | cncfanatics: does FB2 have a way to handle petbars yet? |
| 19:35.39 | Matrix110 | but WoW sucks anyway |
| 19:35.43 | Matrix110 | wtb multi core support |
| 19:35.54 | [Liq] | so.... what's the current status for www.wowace.com ? |
| 19:35.55 | Matrix110 | would speed up whole wow for alot of people |
| 19:36.28 | vithos | Matrix110: WoW seems to use both cores on my system |
| 19:36.37 | cncfanatics | vithos,not atm :( its planned |
| 19:36.49 | Matrix110 | vithos it is using one other core for the sound |
| 19:36.51 | Matrix110 | but that was it |
| 19:37.00 | vithos | Matrix110: oh |
| 19:37.06 | vithos | cncfanatics: wtb :( |
| 19:37.11 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 19:37.12 | Matrix110 | and sound is like max 5% |
| 19:37.23 | Matrix110 | not to mention i got 2 other cores doing nothing:P |
| 19:38.41 | vithos | i've got one core at 40% and one at 70% |
| 19:39.23 | Matrix110 | that might be other applications |
| 19:39.31 | Matrix110 | or its working better on dual cores |
| 19:39.35 | Matrix110 | got no clue |
| 19:40.20 | cncfanatics | one core for gfx |
| 19:40.22 | cncfanatics | one for osund |
| 19:40.24 | cncfanatics | one for the lua env ? |
| 19:40.28 | cncfanatics | no, actualy |
| 19:40.33 | cncfanatics | one core for sound & lua env |
| 19:40.36 | cncfanatics | all the other cores for gfx |
| 19:42.04 | nevcairiel | i dont think wow can split the gfx to multiple cores |
| 19:42.20 | Matrix110 | atm it cant thats the major problem:P |
| 19:42.43 | nevcairiel | its not an easy task to accomplish |
| 19:42.49 | Matrix110 | iam aware of that |
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| 19:42.54 | Fiskersmas | yes it is |
| 19:42.55 | Fiskersmas | rawr rawr |
| 19:43.04 | Matrix110 | they have to rewrite major parts of the engine |
| 19:43.05 | Fiskersmas | i could do it myself in 1 seconds |
| 19:43.09 | Fiskersmas | without teh source code |
| 19:43.12 | Fiskersmas | blizzard just being lazy |
| 19:43.19 | Fiskersmas | and i pay for this shit! |
| 19:43.33 | Fiskersmas | gg good service blizz |
| 19:43.33 | cncfanatics | why don't admins ban trolls these days ? |
| 19:43.55 | Fiskersmas | obvious trolls are a rare breed :( |
| 19:44.18 | Matrix110 | another problem is that blizzard didnt start outsourcing parts of the gfx to different jobs to be able to use more cores |
| 19:44.20 | Fiskersmas | it's annoying though |
| 19:44.41 | Fiskersmas | in Windows XP my browser is lagging when WoW is running, especially at the login screen |
| 19:44.46 | Fiskersmas | but in windows vista there's no problems |
| 19:44.57 | Fiskersmas | probably because aero is 3d rendered |
| 19:45.24 | [Liq] | My xp only lags if WoW is active, if I minimize the window, all is fine. |
| 19:45.59 | Fiskersmas | well i run windowed fullscreen |
| 19:46.09 | Fiskersmas | it's a shame other games don't support that btw |
| 19:47.33 | Matrix110 | mostly MMORPGs do that because there is a reason to alt tab |
| 19:48.01 | Matrix110 | in most other games there is not really a reason to alt tab often so they dont waste resources on such things |
| 19:48.02 | cncfanatics | I'm in windowed mode |
| 19:48.03 | cncfanatics | <3 |
| 19:48.46 | [Liq] | same |
| 19:48.51 | [Liq] | but I just idle AV while coding |
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| 19:50.46 | cncfanatics | [Liq], lame |
| 19:51.19 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, nah im there when boss goes down, meanwhile I just defend a tower |
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| 19:52.07 | cncfanatics | you'll defend very well while coding :p |
| 19:52.19 | Xinhuan | [12/27 03:37:35] <Codayus> In my experience, full screen windowed mode is lower FPS than full screen non-windowed, without exception. |
| 19:52.25 | Xinhuan | in my experience, both yields identical FPS |
| 19:52.28 | Xinhuan | because i run dual screen |
| 19:53.09 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, wow is visible all the time :) I'm dual screened |
| 19:53.41 | Polarina | I found a bug in Cartographer_Mining!!! |
| 19:53.57 | Polarina | What should I do? |
| 19:54.18 | Xinhuan | whats the bug |
| 19:54.20 | Stanzilla | report it to Xinhuan |
| 19:54.22 | Stanzilla | hehe |
| 19:54.32 | Xinhuan | appears i'm the bugfixer around here these days |
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| 19:54.42 | Stanzilla | that's a good thing |
| 19:55.05 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 19:57.23 | Cheads | www.wowace.com down? |
| 19:58.23 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 19:58.42 | [Liq] | Cheads, cncfanatics broke it |
| 19:58.56 | Cheads | oki =) |
| 19:59.20 | cncfanatics | yea, I crashed wowace xD |
| 19:59.40 | Xinhuan | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=3167.0 |
| 19:59.41 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 19:59.43 | Xinhuan | at the nubs |
| 19:59.48 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Interface Options -> Enable "Rotate Minimap". The nodes don't rotate along with the minimap. |
| 19:59.49 | Xinhuan | read the replies |
| 20:00.02 | Xinhuan | that's a bug with Cartographer_Notes |
| 20:00.06 | Xinhuan | not _Mining |
| 20:00.21 | Xinhuan | maybe i'll fix it in the next hour |
| 20:00.49 | Polarina | Difference? |
| 20:00.58 | Polarina | The routes in _Routes rotate correctly. |
| 20:01.07 | Xinhuan | the node displays in the minimap are shown by _Notes, not _mining |
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| 20:01.30 | Xinhuan | _routes uses its own detection |
| 20:01.32 | Xinhuan | instead of using _notes |
| 20:01.42 | Xinhuan | because i know the one in _Notes is broken |
| 20:02.12 | Xinhuan | if you reloadui, _notes works though |
| 20:02.30 | Xinhuan | it just doesn't detect the toggling correctly |
| 20:02.37 | Xinhuan | only on login |
| 20:02.56 | Xinhuan | if u get what i mean |
| 20:03.04 | Polarina | Then it shouldn't be hard to fix. :) |
| 20:03.12 | Polarina | Yes, I know what you mean. |
| 20:03.21 | Xinhuan | it isn't hard, just means i have to copy over some code |
| 20:05.45 | Bibi | what did I do ? |
| 20:05.45 | Bibi | :/ |
| 20:05.59 | [Liq] | woah |
| 20:06.03 | [Liq] | wowace.com finally up again |
| 20:06.14 | Xinhuan | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=3167.0 <-- why are people so stupid :) |
| 20:06.29 | Xinhuan | also, ty for highlighting my addon :D |
| 20:06.46 | Bibi | want my paypal mail to thanks me even more ? |
| 20:07.04 | Xinhuan | you could paypal me for my addon, email in the TOC file :) |
| 20:07.41 | Bibi | I don't use it ! |
| 20:07.43 | Xinhuan | but yeah, i suppose you need to tell those people |
| 20:07.51 | Fiskersmas | i want to have both your babies |
| 20:07.57 | Xinhuan | how to install it all |
| 20:08.56 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Welcome. |
| 20:09.05 | Xinhuan | Fiskersmas, does that mean you're letting 2 guys screw you? :) |
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| 20:09.53 | Pkekyo| | so...what specc for a lvl 50 mage? |
| 20:13.08 | Xinhuan | 0/41/0 |
| 20:14.11 | Provus | No way. Water Elemental is way better at level 50. |
| 20:14.22 | Xinhuan | it doesn't make yu lvl faster |
| 20:14.29 | Provus | ..yes it does. |
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| 20:15.32 | Pkekyo| | so... |
| 20:15.40 | Pkekyo| | what specc for a lvl 50 mage?: p |
| 20:15.47 | Xinhuan | 0/41/0 - get combustion |
| 20:15.57 | Provus | Fire is only good til 49. |
| 20:16.00 | Provus | Afterward, full frost. |
| 20:16.00 | Xinhuan | and dragon's breathe |
| 20:16.05 | Fiskersmas | rawr |
| 20:16.10 | Xinhuan | i disagree |
| 20:16.14 | Pkekyo| | had combustion for ages |
| 20:16.21 | Provus | I've leveled two mages to 70. |
| 20:16.31 | Pkekyo| | never used it ONCE |
| 20:16.37 | Provus | Just telling you what I've done from experience. |
| 20:16.46 | Xinhuan | i've played a mage for 475 days :) |
| 20:16.53 | Provus | Okay? |
| 20:17.05 | Provus | Dragon's Breath is too mana inefficient for leveling. |
| 20:17.19 | Xinhuan | i suppose |
| 20:17.20 | Tinyboom | I'd say frost for leveling and whatever you want prefer@70 |
| 20:17.25 | Provus | It's so expensive that when I had it, I tried not to use it. |
| 20:17.27 | Provus | It costed too damn much. |
| 20:17.48 | Xinhuan | fire will kill mobs at least 50% faster, so you lvl up faster |
| 20:17.49 | Pkekyo| | I've used it like...once ever since I got it |
| 20:17.52 | Xinhuan | frost is safer though |
| 20:18.04 | Tinyboom | Xinhuan: safer with frost and AOE levelling rocks pre-tbc:p |
| 20:18.05 | Pkekyo| | safe is overrated |
| 20:18.07 | Provus | I disagree. Fire is not that much faster. |
| 20:18.14 | Provus | And it has AOE options. |
| 20:18.39 | Pkekyo| | either way...mage quest in aszhara soloable? |
| 20:18.40 | Provus | So long as you master the double shatter-crit as frost you're set. |
| 20:18.49 | Xinhuan | completely soloable |
| 20:19.10 | Xinhuan | well at lvl 50 it will be kinda difficult |
| 20:19.28 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: then what do I do? >.< |
| 20:19.34 | Xinhuan | however, i don't really want to argue the point about specs for leveling |
| 20:19.37 | Xinhuan | you do what you want ;d |
| 20:20.00 | Xinhuan | all the quest gives you is Polymorph(Rank 1: Turtle) |
| 20:20.05 | Xinhuan | uh i mean pig |
| 20:20.11 | Provus | IMO, Frost is not only safer but faster than fire post-Level 49. |
| 20:20.12 | Xinhuan | just go back at 55 or 60 and do it |
| 20:20.30 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: I need poly:pig for my imba spiderpig quote! :p |
| 20:20.47 | Pkekyo| | FUCK! I fell into the river between aszhara/ashenvale |
| 20:21.02 | Xinhuan | frost is only faster/safer if you're killing mobs +2/3 lvls above you, if you're fire, kiling same level mobs is faster |
| 20:21.06 | Pkekyo| | fuck me sideways |
| 20:21.16 | Xinhuan | because you don't have spellhit at lowbie levels |
| 20:21.44 | Xinhuan | so attacking +2 lvls gives 87% chance of success, 83% on +3 |
| 20:22.33 | Pkekyo| | so definitely frost for outland? |
| 20:22.42 | Xinhuan | what level mobs are you fighting? |
| 20:22.46 | Xinhuan | is is always +2/3? |
| 20:22.49 | Xinhuan | or equal level? |
| 20:22.51 | Xinhuan | or lower lvl |
| 20:22.53 | Provus | I don't agree. First of all, at level 50 mobs start having all sorts of annoying crap. And once you get to Outland? Everything there can be AoE'd practically. |
| 20:23.12 | Provus | Buzzards, orcs, bugs, tentacle things, practically all of it. |
| 20:23.18 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: random levels |
| 20:23.33 | Xinhuan | its really your choice, i suggested fire, these 2 ppl suggested frost |
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| 20:23.50 | Pkekyo| | tentacle tits? O.o |
| 20:24.00 | Provus | I've leveled two mages, one frost, one fire. I noticed that up until level 50, fire was better, but after that point, frost was way better. |
| 20:24.08 | Provus | I was referring to fen striders. |
| 20:24.21 | Pkekyo| | scared me :< |
| 20:25.03 | Provus | Water Elemental makes things scary-easy and while it's up you're pretty much a killing machine. Dragon's Breath is nice but until they reduce the mana cost I do not recommend it. |
| 20:25.08 | Xinhuan | if it makes you feel any better, i leveled as frost from 60-70 |
| 20:25.45 | Xinhuan | i duoed almost all the elite quests with a priest |
| 20:25.49 | Provus | They honestly would be about even if they'd just reduce the mana cost on Dragon's Breath, take it off the shared cooldown between it and Cone of Cold (just plain stupid), and increase its hit range. |
| 20:25.58 | Xinhuan | we were both in top 10 first lvl 70s hehe |
| 20:26.29 | Xinhuan | frost allows you to do a lot of things you can't do otherwise |
| 20:26.31 | Xinhuan | as fire |
| 20:26.47 | Xinhuan | including kiting various hard to kill mobs |
| 20:27.08 | Provus | Fire can't even hope to level as fast at level 66. |
| 20:27.17 | Provus | Frostbolt + Ice Lance combos will get you to 70 quite fast. |
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| 20:28.41 | Provus | Also never level as arcane, it's lol. |
| 20:29.05 | Fiskersmas | i'm going insane Codayus |
| 20:29.05 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57505 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc): |
| 20:29.05 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 20:29.05 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 20:29.15 | Xinhuan | p.s. never go arcane :D |
| 20:29.16 | Fiskersmas | large prismatic shards just went up around 40g |
| 20:29.28 | Xinhuan | unless you have 2 pc T5 |
| 20:29.32 | Fiskersmas | so i just bought arcanoweave mats for 600g |
| 20:29.57 | Provus | You know mages really got boned when it came to new spells. |
| 20:30.07 | Fiskersmas | your mother |
| 20:30.18 | Fiskersmas | only cool paladin spell was crusader aura :< |
| 20:30.23 | Provus | I've been leveling a priest and I have something to look forward to every 2 levels in Outland. |
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| 20:34.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
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| 20:37.31 | Polarina | Hjalte: The addon is out. :) |
| 20:37.48 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57506 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: Cleanup the Cartographer_Waypoints:OnEnable() function so that it doesn't do initialization stuff twice (or more) that should only be done once per login. |
| 20:38.32 | Tinyboom | someone fubar'ed topscorfu:p : http://ace.pastey.net/79618 (tooltip gone) |
| 20:39.04 | Polarina | Hjalte: Look out for RelegationW. |
| 20:39.10 | Hjalte | Polarina: RelegationW, I'll check it out. |
| 20:40.16 | Codayus | Fiskersmas: Fun. |
| 20:40.22 | Polarina | Hjalte: Whenever you see a gold spammer the addon doesn't handle, just send me the SavedVariables file. :) |
| 20:40.43 | Hjalte | Polarina: Sure. |
| 20:41.15 | Codayus | I checked, current prices are running about ~22g for arcanoweave mats, ~28g for shards. Although you can only make a few per day at those prices... |
| 20:41.17 | Fiskersmas | btw Codayus |
| 20:41.25 | Fiskersmas | you will pay my expenses rawr |
| 20:41.27 | Codayus | Netherweave, for example, has a HUGE range of prices on my server. |
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| 20:41.56 | Fiskersmas | arcanoweave is 28-30g here |
| 20:42.03 | Fiskersmas | but large prismatics are over 40g :D |
| 20:42.15 | Codayus | Also, speaking of new spells - the only decent new spell priests got was Prayer of Mending. |
| 20:42.24 | Fiskersmas | i just hope i don't get any void crystals |
| 20:42.28 | Codayus | And it got hugely nerfed almost immediatly. |
| 20:43.03 | Codayus | So everyone else can DIAF, kthx. |
| 20:43.18 | Fiskersmas | also |
| 20:43.20 | Fiskersmas | your mother |
| 20:43.37 | Polarina | Hjalte: Standing in Stormwind City or Ironforge should do. xD |
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| 20:46.41 | Fiskersmas | OH U Codayus |
| 20:47.09 | Codayus | ? |
| 20:47.17 | Codayus | Got a void crystal? |
| 20:48.06 | Fiskersmas | yes |
| 20:48.07 | Fiskersmas | :( |
| 20:48.18 | Codayus | I've never got a void crystal from DEing bracers. And you know why? It's because I lead a clean life. |
| 20:48.33 | Fiskersmas | :(( |
| 20:48.37 | Codayus | *shrug* |
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| 20:48.44 | Codayus | Should work out on balance though. |
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| 20:51.04 | Hjalte | Polarina: Got the first one just now :P |
| 20:51.25 | Polarina | Hjalte: Gimme! |
| 20:51.45 | Hjalte | To write to saved variables, can I just reload the UI? |
| 20:51.51 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 20:54.21 | Pkekyo| | best zone for leveling at lvl 50? (horde) |
| 20:55.19 | CIA-8 | 03steste78 * r57507 10FuBar_IceHudFu/: Adds the Functions of IceHud to Fu Bar. |
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| 20:55.37 | Polarina | Hjalte: Just don't put it on a pastebin. :) |
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| 20:58.11 | Polarina | Hjalte: Or if you want, you can just send it to me in e-mail. |
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| 21:00.34 | Hjalte | Polarina: You'll be able to find the spam by yourself? :P |
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| 21:00.58 | Polarina | Hjalte: Yeah. :) |
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| 21:05.05 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r57508 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_UI.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 21:05.05 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 21:05.05 | CIA-8 | -Fixed whisper function |
| 21:06.27 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r57509 10TitanProfessions/ (6 files): |
| 21:06.27 | CIA-8 | TitanProfessions: |
| 21:06.27 | CIA-8 | -Added gathering professions |
| 21:06.27 | CIA-8 | -Fixed french localization (thanks to Cédric Bertolini) |
| 21:06.59 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57510 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: Replace "ToggleMiniMapRotation" function hook with listening for CVAR_UPDATE event instead to properly detect minimap rotation change in both _Waypoints and _Notes modules. |
| 21:07.10 | Polarina | Xinhuan: :D |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r57511 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/ (6 files): |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-8 | FuBar_ProfessionsFu: |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-8 | -Added gathering professions |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-8 | -Fixed french localization (thanks to Cédric Bertolini) |
| 21:08.12 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 21:08.18 | Xinhuan | there is a titan addon on wowace? |
| 21:10.09 | Polarina | Hjalte: Updated. |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57512 10Relegation/ (API/CheckMessage.lua Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc): |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures (Hjalte). |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-8 | - Report the same player only once per session. Stupid latency. |
| 21:10.42 | Hjalte | Polarina: Great :) But I understand you are using that addon too and updating whenever you have enough? |
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| 21:11.19 | Polarina | Hjalte: I update as soon as possible when I see a gold spammer. |
| 21:11.52 | Hjalte | Polarina: It's not possible to update the spam filter live ingame or manually or so? |
| 21:12.04 | Polarina | Nope. |
| 21:12.36 | Polarina | Ouch! I'm updating faster than the people at wow-interface verify my addon... |
| 21:13.29 | Birdemani | relegation? |
| 21:13.32 | Birdemani | whats that do |
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| 21:15.58 | Polarina | Automatically reports the gold spammers. |
| 21:16.22 | nevcairiel | i would go for daily releases on a addon site, not for every fix |
| 21:20.53 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Nah. :D |
| 21:31.39 | Polarina | Hjalte: If you see more, please let me know. :D |
| 21:31.51 | Hjalte | Polarina: I will. |
| 21:31.58 | Polarina | Hjalte: Thanks. |
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| 21:45.29 | Pkekyo| | is water elemental instant summon? cooldown? |
| 21:48.19 | si-m1 | yes, 3m without talents reducing it |
| 21:48.55 | si-m1 | 180s * 0.8 with talents |
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| 21:51.49 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57513 10Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 21:51.49 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 21:51.49 | CIA-8 | - Add Cartographer_Waypoints support properly in the RockConfig menu |
| 21:51.49 | CIA-8 | - You may now change the waypoint hit distance |
| 21:51.49 | CIA-8 | - Add feedback and error messages where appropriate |
| 21:51.50 | CIA-8 | - Properly localize all strings used in supporting _Waypoints |
| 21:52.01 | Xinhuan | umm no talent reduces the cooldown of Summon Water Elemental |
| 21:52.07 | Pkekyo| | these frost mages summoning three elementals or more during ONE bloody arena fight annoy the living hell out of me |
| 21:52.14 | Xinhuan | casting Cold Snap resets it to 0 though |
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| 21:54.33 | Fiskersmas | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111302830 <-10$ on someone using his character for teh lulz |
| 21:54.39 | Polarina | Hit distance? |
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| 21:55.44 | Provus | Has anyone ever modified Quartz to not show certain debuffs? |
| 21:55.52 | Provus | I really want to hide Mind Flay and Misery on my shadow priest. |
| 21:56.05 | Ozguli | highlight me! |
| 21:56.18 | Ozguli | need a waypoint note in this location |
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| 21:58.55 | Pkekyo| | resilience should decrease your healing or something |
| 21:59.04 | Pkekyo| | scaling waaaaaaay out of line from damage |
| 21:59.17 | Ozguli | not really |
| 21:59.31 | Ozguli | currently a HARP rogue can kill anything |
| 21:59.43 | Ozguli | oh shit, they actually CAN kill anything... |
| 21:59.57 | Pkekyo| | damage cut in half due to resilience but healing is still the same? it's ridiculous |
| 21:59.57 | Pkekyo| | and if a rogue wants to play the harp or not, I really couldn't care less |
| 21:59.59 | Xuerian | harp? 0_o |
| 22:00.11 | Ozguli | hemo/ar/prep |
| 22:00.36 | Xuerian | That's gotta be painful >.> |
| 22:00.37 | Ozguli | and Pkekyo| maybe resilience should affect healing crits? |
| 22:00.50 | Ozguli | paladins would be quite useless |
| 22:01.01 | Provus | A HARP rogue in greens can dps a guy in full gladiator down to 0 in 30 seconds. |
| 22:01.11 | Ozguli | no, not that well |
| 22:01.16 | Provus | I've witnessed it. |
| 22:01.19 | Ozguli | o.O |
| 22:01.22 | Ozguli | afk gladiator? |
| 22:01.23 | Provus | Well not a plate wearer. |
| 22:01.27 | Provus | Nah |
| 22:01.33 | Provus | Just a friend of mine recently hit 70 with a rogue |
| 22:01.35 | Provus | Specced harp |
| 22:01.36 | Ozguli | I've had trouble with resto shamans |
| 22:01.51 | Provus | And just for kicks and giggles I did a /duel to see how fast he could get me down, and a couple friends |
| 22:01.51 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: should decrease healing taken in general tbh |
| 22:01.56 | Ozguli | need that mh 1.8 speed dagger... |
| 22:01.57 | Provus | He dpsed me down surprisingly fast. |
| 22:02.00 | Provus | With crappy maces. |
| 22:02.20 | Provus | He just spammed hemo, eviscerate, repeat. |
| 22:02.35 | Ozguli | evis? |
| 22:02.37 | Ozguli | rofl |
| 22:02.38 | Provus | Crazy damage. |
| 22:02.48 | Ozguli | in pvp, should use kidney shot |
| 22:02.56 | Provus | I'm just saying pure dpswise |
| 22:03.00 | Ozguli | yeah sure |
| 22:03.01 | Provus | It wasn't a real duel |
| 22:03.10 | Ozguli | hmm |
| 22:03.16 | Ozguli | 2x rogue |
| 22:03.24 | Provus | Been done, doesn't work too well. |
| 22:03.25 | Ozguli | good cc, stuns, dps |
| 22:03.38 | Pkekyo| | I love to win in arenas with 1% hp left :) |
| 22:03.38 | Ozguli | depends on the rogues |
| 22:03.53 | Ozguli | I hate to have draws in arenas |
| 22:03.54 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57514 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Update comments at top of file |
| 22:04.03 | Provus | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=54418 |
| 22:04.28 | Provus | Stage6 is down |
| 22:04.31 | Ozguli | 1.9k riposte crit against a lock |
| 22:04.39 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: draws in arenas? |
| 22:04.42 | Ozguli | and woot, his curse of agony ticks me for 223 and kills me |
| 22:04.49 | Ozguli | yes, draw |
| 22:04.52 | Provus | It's too bad HARP got nerfed though. Rogues are going to be back to being underpowered. |
| 22:05.01 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: how does that happen? |
| 22:05.06 | Ozguli | when both of the remaining players die |
| 22:05.14 | Pkekyo| | never seen that before |
| 22:05.20 | Ozguli | want a screenshot? |
| 22:05.27 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 22:05.38 | Ozguli | good |
| 22:05.40 | Ozguli | going to eat now |
| 22:05.47 | Ozguli | first time in 2 days |
| 22:05.52 | Ozguli | I'm quite hungry |
| 22:05.53 | CIA-8 | 03dfscott * r57515 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (ALGChap_23.lua AzuarcLevelGuide.lua AzuarcLevelGuide.toc): |
| 22:05.53 | CIA-8 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 22:05.53 | CIA-8 | - Add of temporary post-67 leveling files to SVN |
| 22:06.15 | Pkekyo| | gl hf |
| 22:06.41 | Xinhuan | wow i just realized i'm so totally hungry |
| 22:07.08 | Pkekyo| | me too lol |
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| 22:12.03 | CIA-8 | 03sole * r57516 10Antagonist/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Antagonist: Added a sound alert thats played when new bars are added (optional). |
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| 22:19.07 | Pkekyo| | anyone remember how many episodes Band of Brothers had? |
| 22:19.09 | Ozguli | the bastard's hidden all the food I want to eat |
| 22:19.16 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 22:19.19 | Ozguli | back looking for something -> |
| 22:22.20 | Industrial | maybe they are it :P |
| 22:22.48 | Matrix110 | Pkekyo| 10 iirc |
| 22:22.50 | Matrix110 | but ill check |
| 22:23.01 | Matrix110 | yes 10 |
| 22:23.20 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57517 10AuctionProfit/ (AuctionProfit.toc AuctionProfitLocale-deDE.lua): AuctionProfit: deDE fix |
| 22:26.03 | sylvanaar_work | anyone have luac handy? |
| 22:26.19 | sylvanaar_work | i dont on this machine, and im on the road |
| 22:29.11 | Silowyi | does anyone know of a good arena frames addon on the wau |
| 22:29.12 | haste | why not just download it? |
| 22:29.17 | sylvanaar_work | i am |
| 22:29.33 | sylvanaar_work | seeing as everyone is being so helpful today |
| 22:29.44 | haste | what else should they do :p ? |
| 22:30.42 | Silowyi | does anyone know of a good arena frames addon on the wau? |
| 22:30.50 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57518 10AuctionProfit/AuctionProfitLocale-deDE.lua: AuctionProfit: grrrr another deDE fix |
| 22:31.04 | Silowyi | and no I'm not repeating myself, I forgot the ? on the first one |
| 22:31.06 | Silowyi | :D |
| 22:32.23 | Thelyna | Silowyi: Proximo |
| 22:32.35 | Thelyna | for opposition frames anyway |
| 22:33.14 | Silowyi | Thelyna: thanks |
| 22:34.23 | *** join/#wowace Blizzd (n=UPP@ip68-97-142-183.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 22:34.34 | Blizzd | Can someone translate this line of code for me? I'm trying to tweak the fade time on WitchHunt messages. |
| 22:34.38 | Blizzd | if ( not times[text] ) or ( times[text] and (times[text] + 3) <= t ) then |
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| 22:35.47 | Silowyi | I'd say that's "if times[text] isn't set at all, or if it is set, and its been at least 3 units since it was set (whatever the units are), then" |
| 22:36.08 | Silowyi | you probably want to change the 3 |
| 22:36.17 | Silowyi | smaller = faster fade, bigger = slower fade |
| 22:36.25 | Blizzd | k |
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| 22:37.57 | Birdemani | topscorefu is still broken, doesnt show tablet |
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| 22:38.52 | Birdemani | error on line 517, attempt to index local crit (a nil value) |
| 22:39.40 | Xinhuan | Birdemani, bug Arrowmaster about it |
| 22:40.01 | Blizzd | Hmm darn, changing this didn't seem to do anything. I guess this is the wrong line. |
| 22:40.20 | Xinhuan | [12/27 06:36:54] <Blizzd> if ( not times[text] ) or ( times[text] and (times[text] + 3) <= t ) then |
| 22:40.32 | Xinhuan | the first part |
| 22:40.36 | Xinhuan | ( not times[text] ) |
| 22:40.48 | Xinhuan | checks for the non-existance of the variable times[text] |
| 22:41.31 | Xinhuan | if (thatvariable doesn't exist) or (thatvariable exists AND thatvariable + 3 <= t) |
| 22:41.39 | Xinhuan | got it? |
| 22:42.02 | Polarina | Xinhuan: A but in Cartographer_Notes. |
| 22:42.05 | *** part/#wowace LordRhys (i=LordRhys@171.sub-70-216-67.myvzw.com) |
| 22:42.30 | Blizzd | Let me read that a few times. |
| 22:42.54 | Blizzd | Okay, so would modifying the 3 do anything if the veriable did not exist? |
| 22:43.08 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Cartographer\Cartographer_Notes\Notes.lua:2471: Argument #5 to 'SendNoteToPlayer' in the wrong format, got "" |
| 22:43.10 | Blizzd | variable* |
| 22:43.40 | Blizzd | Ugh this is not a large addon. I should be able to find this.. |
| 22:43.43 | Xinhuan | Blizzd no |
| 22:43.49 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57519 10FuBar_MoneyFu/embeds.xml: FuBar_MoneyFu: Switch the order of loading AceOO and AceAddon in embeds.xml |
| 22:43.57 | Xinhuan | it only checks the 2nd part of the OR if the first part is false |
| 22:44.15 | Xinhuan | what did you try to do Polarina |
| 22:44.19 | Blizzd | Yeah, I changed the + 3 to - 20 and it didn't do anything. hum. |
| 22:44.40 | Blizzd | I'll keep looking.. |
| 22:46.57 | Polarina | Xinhuan: <M> -> Right click on a Mining Node -> Send Note -> Send to player -> <Enter> |
| 22:47.52 | Xinhuan | i didn't get any error |
| 22:48.14 | Xinhuan | i mean, did you actually type in a player name? |
| 22:48.16 | Pkekyo| | anyone know what day it is? |
| 22:48.24 | Xinhuan | thursday 6.50am |
| 22:48.26 | Fiskersmas | 26th december |
| 22:48.38 | Pkekyo| | thurstday 26th? |
| 22:48.41 | Silowyi | does anyone have a good macro addon? |
| 22:48.42 | Polarina | Xinhuan: No, I didn't type anything. |
| 22:48.42 | Fiskersmas | wednesday |
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| 22:48.46 | Silowyi | more macros, bigger macros, etc |
| 22:48.49 | Xinhuan | thursday 6.50am 27th dec 2007 |
| 22:48.53 | Fiskersmas | Xinhuan must be some chinese |
| 22:48.58 | Xinhuan | then it will obviously fail Polarina ;p |
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| 22:49.04 | Xinhuan | to send to a nil player |
| 22:49.09 | Polarina | Xinhuan: But why with a Lua error? |
| 22:49.14 | Xinhuan | well i didn't write _Notes |
| 22:49.21 | Xinhuan | i'm not the author |
| 22:49.39 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It would be better if it failed silently. :) |
| 22:49.42 | Xinhuan | the fact that i'm fixing errors caused by other people, i have no life :D |
| 22:50.11 | Blizzd | I think whatever is controlling the fade time is in the Ace2 libraries. This isn't a large addon file, and no matter what I change the fade time stays the same. |
| 22:50.16 | Xinhuan | btw, i was unable to press Enter with an empty textbox Polarina |
| 22:50.24 | Xinhuan | nothing happens, the cursor remains to blink |
| 22:50.40 | Blizzd | Will you take a look? It's really not a large file. |
| 22:51.10 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 22:51.10 | tjn | i'm looking for an addon that will let your group know which mob you're sheeping, anyone? |
| 22:51.16 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: what timezone you in? |
| 22:51.21 | Xinhuan | gmt+8 |
| 22:51.23 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Weird. |
| 22:51.47 | Industrial | is that like |
| 22:51.47 | Xinhuan | when i try to press enter with a empty name, or a name that is just "spaces" |
| 22:51.49 | Industrial | india? |
| 22:52.02 | Xinhuan | in the middle of the screen, a red error message pops up as |
| 22:52.05 | Xinhuan | "validation error" |
| 22:52.09 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Weird. Do you have Display Lua Errors enabled? |
| 22:52.17 | Xinhuan | in the place where you normally see "not enough energy" |
| 22:52.25 | Blizzd | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=55699/WowAce/trunk/WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua |
| 22:52.27 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: where the flying fuck is gmt+8? :p |
| 22:52.31 | Xinhuan | singapore |
| 22:52.41 | duaiwe | look at a map, for fucks sake |
| 22:52.49 | Blizzd | I found it. |
| 22:52.53 | Blizzd | The file I just linked, I mean. |
| 22:53.02 | Blizzd | No download required. |
| 22:53.05 | Fiskersmas | chinese gold farmer Xinhuan :( |
| 22:53.20 | Fiskersmas | btw |
| 22:53.23 | Fiskersmas | PRIESTS ARE OVERPOWERED :( |
| 22:53.32 | Chompers | yes. |
| 22:53.40 | Fiskersmas | you can buff your clockwork robots |
| 22:53.46 | tjn | xinhuan, you're in singapore? want to export camera gear to me? :D |
| 22:53.47 | Chompers | overpowered at not healing |
| 22:53.52 | Fiskersmas | a priest can just toss power word shield |
| 22:53.55 | Fiskersmas | and it can't die |
| 22:54.15 | Xinhuan | no tjn ;p |
| 22:54.22 | Fiskersmas | what about me? :) |
| 22:54.39 | CIA-8 | 03diablohu * r57520 10PallyPower/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 22:54.39 | CIA-8 | PallyPower: |
| 22:54.39 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update |
| 22:54.41 | Xinhuan | what am i supposed to see/find Blizzd |
| 22:55.10 | tjn | xinhuan, i live just accross the lake though ;) |
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| 22:55.52 | Xinhuan | that is quite a bit of a big lake between Australia and Singapore, tjn |
| 22:55.53 | Blizzd | I'm trying to find where it controls how long it takes for the text to fade. |
| 22:56.02 | Blizzd | I thought it was that line I showed you before, or the following line |
| 22:56.08 | Blizzd | But modifying either of them did nothing. |
| 22:56.47 | Blizzd | To be a little more specific |
| 22:56.54 | Blizzd | How long it takes "WitchHunt_Message" to fade. |
| 22:57.24 | Xinhuan | Blizzd |
| 22:57.25 | Xinhuan | self.msgframe:AddMessage(message, r, g, b, 1, UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME) |
| 22:57.28 | Xinhuan | its on that line |
| 22:57.31 | tjn | is anyone aware of an addon that will alert your party as to which mob you are polymorphing? |
| 22:57.34 | Blizzd | ..really. |
| 22:57.40 | Blizzd | What do i modify? |
| 22:57.54 | Xinhuan | replace UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME with the number of seconds |
| 22:58.15 | Xinhuan | UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME is nil by default btw |
| 22:58.20 | Xinhuan | as it doesn't even exist lol |
| 22:58.31 | Blizzd | Well somehow it's not nil |
| 22:58.42 | Xinhuan | when its nil, it defaults to a certain value |
| 22:58.51 | Xinhuan | which i don't know at the moment |
| 22:59.13 | Xinhuan | in any case, replacing that variable UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME with 10, will make it 10 seconds |
| 22:59.47 | Blizzd | Okay, trying it out |
| 23:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "Congratulations Citizen G'Kar, you are now a religious icon." |
| 23:01.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i'm sorry, you'll have to buy me dinner and a movie first. |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57521 10GetDKP_AutoPost/ (GetDKP_AutoPost.lua Locale_deDE.lua Locale_enUS.lua): |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-8 | GetDKP_AutoPost: |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-8 | - Added one more option (Instantly post DKP) |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-8 | - Added support for collecting Players that need items and post DKP at one |
| 23:02.39 | Blizzd | It did not seem to have any effect, Xin. |
| 23:02.57 | Xinhuan | how many seconds did you put |
| 23:03.07 | Blizzd | I'm quite sure I replaced it with '1', hit the save button, then did a /reloadui |
| 23:03.07 | Pkekyo| | is the TBC pvp trinket worth it? |
| 23:03.13 | Blizzd | Then did a /wh test |
| 23:03.19 | Blizzd | Took just as long to fade. |
| 23:03.36 | Blizzd | self.msgframe:AddMessage(message, r, g, b, 1, 1) |
| 23:03.38 | Ozguli | Pkekyo| it has shorder cd? |
| 23:03.52 | Ozguli | figure out |
| 23:04.25 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: -and resilience |
| 23:04.32 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: price seems bit stiff though |
| 23:04.47 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 23:05.00 | Xinhuan | its using self:Pour(msg, r, g, b) |
| 23:05.01 | Ozguli | yeah it's quite expensive |
| 23:05.09 | Blizzd | What do I stick on there? |
| 23:05.10 | Ozguli | I'd rather pick 2 epic non-set items |
| 23:05.15 | Xinhuan | you won't find the amount of time ni witchhunt |
| 23:05.24 | Xinhuan | you will need to modify the variables inside SinkLib-1.0 |
| 23:05.27 | Blizzd | Can I subtract seconds? |
| 23:05.33 | Xinhuan | which is where :Pour() is defined |
| 23:05.47 | Blizzd | Am I able to subtract seconds from whatever pour is defined as from here though? |
| 23:05.47 | Xinhuan | and it will affect ALL your addons that use:Pour() |
| 23:05.55 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:06.02 | Blizzd | Can I change it? |
| 23:06.04 | Xinhuan | because Pour() uses the default ui stuff |
| 23:06.12 | Xinhuan | as well as other addons like parrot, msbt, etc |
| 23:06.17 | Xinhuan | if they are available |
| 23:06.19 | Blizzd | Well this has its own libraries. |
| 23:06.31 | Blizzd | If I modify those, will it only affect this addon? |
| 23:06.32 | Xinhuan | you can look inside sinklib.lua |
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| 23:06.40 | Xinhuan | no, it will affect all addons that use that library |
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| 23:06.57 | Xinhuan | and you need to find the sinklib library that is the latest in ALL your addons in all your subfolders |
| 23:07.04 | Xinhuan | not just in witchhunt |
| 23:07.11 | Blizzd | Ouch. |
| 23:07.15 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57522 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua: |
| 23:07.15 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:07.16 | CIA-8 | - Fix for Heavy Timbermaw Boots |
| 23:07.51 | Blizzd | What if I copied the 'pour' function and made a 'pour2' function |
| 23:08.02 | Xinhuan | no use |
| 23:08.11 | Xinhuan | the :pour function exists in a library |
| 23:08.16 | Xinhuan | not in witchhunt |
| 23:08.24 | Xinhuan | and will need other functions in that library |
| 23:08.38 | Blizzd | That's what I'm saying. |
| 23:08.42 | Blizzd | What if I go to that library |
| 23:08.43 | Blizzd | And copy it |
| 23:08.47 | Blizzd | Within that same file |
| 23:08.55 | Blizzd | And create 'Pour2' |
| 23:09.06 | Xinhuan | then you will get conflicting library issues |
| 23:09.11 | Blizzd | So am I screwed then? |
| 23:09.15 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:09.20 | Blizzd | Sigh. |
| 23:09.52 | *** part/#wowace Preystalker (n=culpedr@216.107.111.77) |
| 23:10.07 | Xinhuan | if you insist, you can try this "hack solution" |
| 23:10.11 | Xinhuan | in game, go type |
| 23:10.16 | Xinhuan | /script UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME = 1 |
| 23:10.22 | Xinhuan | and see if that works |
| 23:10.38 | Blizzd | Nope. |
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| 23:10.47 | Xinhuan | where are you outputing the stuff to |
| 23:10.50 | Xinhuan | which frame |
| 23:10.59 | Xinhuan | are you pouring to |
| 23:11.02 | Blizzd | The witch hunt output frame, the default one that's listed in this addon. |
| 23:11.34 | Xinhuan | no clue then, go bitch about it to the addon author |
| 23:12.00 | Xinhuan | i'm not about to install an addon and dig through 10 files to help you fix something at 7.14 am in the morning ;p |
| 23:12.07 | Blizzd | Damnit. It's always simple things. *grumble* |
| 23:12.22 | tjn | xinhuan, it's 7.12 ;) |
| 23:12.24 | Xinhuan | witchhunt is maintained isn't it? |
| 23:12.28 | Xinhuan | by an active author |
| 23:12.29 | Blizzd | Yeah |
| 23:12.31 | Blizzd | I think so |
| 23:12.36 | Xinhuan | so go ahead, post it on wowace forums |
| 23:14.56 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis` |
| 23:15.24 | purl | ellipsis` is currently on #wowace (3h 25m 22s), last said: 'vithos: this is relevant to my interests, do you know what it's doing exactly?'. |
| 23:16.22 | Blizzd | Problem is I doubt the addon author would care when he mentions he recommends the other output options. |
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| 23:16.57 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis`: ping? |
| 23:19.11 | Thelyna | can anyone recommend a text editor, windows, pref freeware, that doesn't choke on 100MB+ files? |
| 23:19.23 | Xinhuan | Notepad++ |
| 23:19.32 | Xinhuan | yes, it will still take a while to open a 100 mb file |
| 23:19.45 | Ozguli | I like NoteTab light |
| 23:19.48 | Chompers | most things will |
| 23:20.15 | Thelyna | right, but wordpad went to 650MB+ memory usage for said 100MB file |
| 23:20.22 | Thelyna | that's ... bad? |
| 23:20.31 | Xinhuan | probably bad |
| 23:20.43 | Xinhuan | use microsoft word |
| 23:20.45 | Xinhuan | if you wish |
| 23:20.48 | Xinhuan | it will load it instantly |
| 23:21.07 | Xinhuan | and only load the portion of the file you are viewing as you scroll through it |
| 23:21.27 | Ozguli | hm |
| 23:21.42 | Ozguli | I once opened a 2gb file in hex editor |
| 23:24.07 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57523 10GetDKP_AutoPost/Readme.txt: GetDKP_AutoPost: Added some text to the Readme |
| 23:24.32 | Ozguli | "it got paged" |
| 23:25.15 | sdouble | I once opened a 2gb file with my teeth |
| 23:29.37 | tjn | Chuck Norris can open a 2gb file with a round house kick. |
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| 23:30.30 | Pkekyo| | chuck norris can go fuck himself, 'cause "chuck norris facts" has never, is not, and will never be funny |
| 23:31.27 | tjn | wow.. so angsty |
| 23:31.35 | Fiskersmas | fuck you |
| 23:32.12 | buu | Yay, christmas spirit! |
| 23:32.22 | tjn | buu, yeah - i love it too. |
| 23:32.23 | Xinhuan | hi Speeddymon |
| 23:32.34 | tjn | can we all just not settle down, a bit? |
| 23:32.45 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht has been complaining about a non-existant aceopt table error in CDT2 |
| 23:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | tjn: no, fuck you.:D |
| 23:34.06 | tjn | i think everyone just needs to chill out. |
| 23:34.10 | tjn | go outside, for a change :D |
| 23:34.18 | tjn | (personal attacks work well) |
| 23:34.30 | buu | I'm getting soup. |
| 23:34.48 | NightHawkTheSane | outside is chilly and rainy, fuck that |
| 23:35.06 | tjn | buu, i would like some soup too. even though it's 9:35 am |
| 23:35.19 | Chompers | i have soup |
| 23:35.23 | Chompers | soup...in a mug |
| 23:35.26 | sdouble | Soup sounds good. |
| 23:35.30 | sdouble | I might have some soup. |
| 23:35.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I finished my chai |
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| 23:39.36 | AKX | Hum. How could I get in touch with Kaelten? I mean, I'd have a server in Finland behind a 100/100 line... If WoWace would perhaps use a mirror. (Like I mentioned earlier today.) |
| 23:40.24 | Xinhuan | you can email him, or wait in this channel |
| 23:40.40 | Gngsk | Send him a botmail! |
| 23:40.53 | Matrix110 | AKX he will refuse that offer |
| 23:41.02 | Matrix110 | there are offers like this more often |
| 23:41.56 | Matrix110 | but there is ALOT of risks hosting a mirror in a not totally controlled environment :P |
| 23:42.14 | Matrix110 | or atleast professional webhosting controlled |
| 23:42.24 | AKX | Well, just a downstream push mirror. |
| 23:42.38 | AKX | Besides, I do have full control of that server. |
| 23:42.45 | Matrix110 | thats the main problem:P |
| 23:42.59 | AKX | Psh. I'm an addon developer, too! :P |
| 23:43.07 | Matrix110 | a little trojan in pitbull and voila :P |
| 23:43.35 | AKX | Well, I could technically commit a little trojan in Pitbull right now, it wouldn't make much of a difference, would it? D: |
| 23:43.44 | Matrix110 | you cant:p |
| 23:43.55 | Matrix110 | atleast not a executable one |
| 23:44.00 | sdouble | what's with all the faces? =/ |
| 23:46.28 | Zhinjio | Hmm. |
| 23:46.30 | Pkekyo| | sdouble: what faces? |
| 23:46.55 | Zhinjio | I'd like an addon that takes specific bag contents and shows you estimated bid/buyout values of their entire contents based on various auctioneer values. |
| 23:46.56 | Gngsk | :O faces |
| 23:47.21 | Zhinjio | wonder how hookable some of the auctioneer data is |
| 23:47.51 | Zhinjio | actually, thats silly. of course its available if the addon is loaded. just need to know what variables. |
| 23:49.42 | Pkekyo| | yay! guildie with chuck norris spam-addon! |
| 23:50.07 | Matrix110 | we had some moron using Trivia in /trade |
| 23:50.47 | Matrix110 | using it in if/shatt at a unpopulated place np |
| 23:51.01 | Matrix110 | but in trade channel is so annoying |
| 23:51.10 | Matrix110 | like 40ppl tried to answer all the time... |
| 23:54.50 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:57.22 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:57.26 | Xinhuan | report for spam |
| 23:57.28 | Xinhuan | and misuse of channel |
| 23:58.33 | Fiskersmas | there is no misuse of channel |
| 23:58.38 | Fiskersmas | the channels can be used for whatever people like |
| 23:58.47 | Fiskersmas | as long as they do not in any other way break the tos |
| 23:59.13 | Xinhuan | generating chunks of text that causes excessive scrolling is considered misuse |
| 23:59.20 | Xinhuan | when 40 people try to reply at the same time, that is misuse |
| 23:59.26 | Xinhuan | (aka spam) |
| 23:59.36 | Fiskersmas | not aka spam |
| 23:59.48 | Fiskersmas | spam is spam, misuse is misuse |
| 23:59.59 | Matrix110 | ive reported ~40ppl atleast:P |
