| 00:00.01 | Antiarc | switch |
| 00:00.07 | aestil | BUT ITS BETTER! |
| 00:00.09 | Fridgid | is there a way to check for 5yd range with something like CheckInteractDistance? |
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| 00:00.16 | Fridgid | like with melee or something? |
| 00:00.20 | Antiarc | Plus, the sword upgrades are more plentiful in the T6 instances |
| 00:01.02 | Xinhuan | Soulless: no |
| 00:01.23 | Xinhuan | there are only 4 distances you can check with that function, and only those 4 |
| 00:01.28 | Soulless | like for 15 yd i used a bandage range check |
| 00:01.35 | Soulless | and 10 is check interact |
| 00:01.42 | Soulless | is there a way to check for melee in range? |
| 00:01.47 | Xinhuan | ans: no |
| 00:01.52 | Soulless | argh |
| 00:02.04 | Soulless | whats omen use for the 110% vs 130% check? |
| 00:02.10 | Antiarc | CheckInteractDistance(unitID, 3) |
| 00:02.22 | Antiarc | Which is 10 yards and not entirely accurate, but there's no better way |
| 00:02.27 | Xinhuan | i think that one checks for 10 yards |
| 00:02.31 | Antiarc | It does. |
| 00:02.35 | Xinhuan | its the closest thing you can get |
| 00:02.35 | Antiarc | There isn't any smaller check |
| 00:02.38 | Xinhuan | there is no other way |
| 00:02.49 | Soulless | the autoattack check for action bars wouldn't work? |
| 00:02.51 | Antiarc | And you can't check the usability of the Attack skill either |
| 00:02.53 | Antiarc | No, I tried that |
| 00:02.56 | Soulless | bah |
| 00:02.59 | Xinhuan | you can't check attack on friendly targets |
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| 00:03.01 | Antiarc | I don't remember why it wouldn't work, but I remember that it didn't. |
| 00:03.08 | Soulless | Xinhuan: good point |
| 00:03.14 | bparkis | the midgets are amassing their army |
| 00:03.16 | hyperChipmunk | it just doesn't =p |
| 00:03.20 | Xinhuan | the answer is simply: no ;p |
| 00:03.29 | Xinhuan | thousands of people have tried |
| 00:03.31 | Soulless | wtb old inspect range or w/e it was |
| 00:03.32 | Antiarc | function ThreatLib:UnitInMeleeRange(unitID) return UnitExists(unitID) and UnitIsVisible(unitID) and CheckInteractDistance(unitID, 3) end |
| 00:03.33 | Antiarc | So yeah. |
| 00:03.41 | hyperChipmunk | though you could probably check with other skills on a class-by-class basis |
| 00:03.59 | Soulless | i was looking at that but it didn't seem to be too easy |
| 00:04.02 | Xinhuan | hyperChipmunk: i dont' remember any melee skill that works on friendly players |
| 00:04.12 | Soulless | like for healing range checks, all healers and most casters have 40yd shit |
| 00:04.18 | hyperChipmunk | you're not checking a friendly |
| 00:04.24 | hyperChipmunk | you're checking distance from the mob |
| 00:04.26 | Soulless | but 5yd stuff aside melee i couldn't figure it out |
| 00:04.32 | Xinhuan | Soulless is looking for a melee check |
| 00:04.38 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 00:04.41 | Soulless | i need a friendly 5yd check |
| 00:04.45 | Soulless | so melee is out i guess |
| 00:04.46 | Xinhuan | for friendly |
| 00:05.04 | Soulless | aight well i trust you guys, if it can't be done it can't be done |
| 00:05.23 | Soulless | was making a window for gruuls shows whos in 0-5, 5-10, and 10-15 |
| 00:05.37 | Soulless | except if i can't get a 5yd check its only gonna be 0-10, and 10-15 |
| 00:05.40 | Xinhuan | if that can be done, it would already be in various boss mods Soulless |
| 00:05.51 | Soulless | yup |
| 00:06.09 | bparkis | their midget wizards have been watching us at night, flying over our city |
| 00:06.22 | Xinhuan | wouldn't a bandage check only work if you have a bandage? |
| 00:06.31 | Soulless | i thought so too |
| 00:06.39 | Soulless | but i tried to today and it seemed to work without them |
| 00:06.45 | Xinhuan | and are you sure is 15 yards on bandage? |
| 00:06.46 | Ellipsis | isn't that why bossmods used to require you to bring along a bandage? o.O |
| 00:06.52 | Soulless | yes its 16 |
| 00:06.53 | Krittick | oh god my new ui is sexy |
| 00:06.58 | Neebler | screenshot! |
| 00:07.00 | Soulless | 15* |
| 00:07.03 | Krittick | in a sec |
| 00:07.08 | Krittick | fixing Fubar library errors |
| 00:07.12 | bparkis | the fallen midgets can see you from their place in the mud |
| 00:07.16 | Soulless | if its not 15 is something around that |
| 00:07.17 | bparkis | glaring up at you with dimming midget eyes |
| 00:07.23 | Soulless | its greater then 10 and looks to be 15 |
| 00:08.07 | Xinhuan | isn't the bigwigs or DBM proximity meters enough? |
| 00:08.17 | Xinhuan | or you writing this addon for something more specific? |
| 00:08.35 | Soulless | essentially a rewrite for a different addon |
| 00:08.43 | Soulless | same thing |
| 00:08.44 | bparkis | I once had a conversation with a midget mage |
| 00:08.49 | Soulless | just a shatter window |
| 00:08.53 | Ackis | <-- smacks head into wall harder |
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| 00:09.04 | bparkis | they hate our people and our greed, they envy our food stores and our weapons |
| 00:09.46 | Krittick | oh god, Fubar is giving me this: |
| 00:09.47 | Krittick | Message: ..\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua line 1244: |
| 00:09.47 | Krittick | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.47 | Krittick | Debug: |
| 00:09.47 | Krittick | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.47 | Krittick | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.54 | Krittick | whoops, sorry for the spam |
| 00:09.59 | bparkis | three midgets can live on the food of a single one of us and they resent us; they feel we are to blame for their famine |
| 00:10.26 | bparkis | they are planning to take it from us, take our city and our farms |
| 00:10.56 | Krittick | anyone have an idea as to what could be causing that error? |
| 00:11.54 | bparkis | they have no use for our women; they will cast the living of us out into the forest |
| 00:12.07 | Ellipsis | I'm going to go with: something is passing nil into ipairs as the first argument, rather than a table. |
| 00:12.12 | Ellipsis | and it's happening in FuBar's code. |
| 00:12.45 | bparkis | they are small, but they are vicious, and there are many of them. The midget magi and their skilled bear-riders are formidable. |
| 00:12.48 | pakoz | anyone know how to make quartz stop reseting the swing timer on sword procs? |
| 00:13.04 | Krittick | Ellipsis I hate you |
| 00:13.10 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 00:14.28 | bparkis | hunger and malice lurks behind the eyes in those tiny, deformed heads |
| 00:15.38 | Speeddymon_ | ackis: im here.. just finding which addon is causing issues with gatherer |
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| 00:17.49 | JCinDE | Fin: You awake? |
| 00:18.56 | JCinDE | ouch my server just went offline |
| 00:19.29 | Speeddymon | mine did too for a minute buts its back up now |
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| 00:19.42 | JCinDE | soooo glad they put that voice chat thing in. |
| 00:19.46 | Polarina | JCinDE: Not offline, just crashline. |
| 00:24.48 | JCinDE | is there a bugtracker somewhere for Prat? |
| 00:25.43 | bparkis | let's have a continuity error |
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| 00:28.26 | hyperChipmunk | " EBay, the San Jose-based king of online auctions, purchased Skype two years ago for $2.6 billion, hoping in part to encourage communications between buyers and sellers on its auction service." I can't understand why that failed...can you imagine talking to those people? |
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| 00:28.54 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 00:29.09 | Krittick | ugh |
| 00:29.12 | Mudkips | like that guy who stuffs the shipping box with dirty pizza boxes? |
| 00:29.15 | Krittick | this Fubar error is pissing me off |
| 00:29.17 | Mudkips | and empty milk jugs??? |
| 00:29.29 | hyperChipmunk | makes you wonder how one would vocally pronounce sentences consisting primarily (or even entirely) of exclamation marks |
| 00:29.32 | Mudkips | as packaging material O_O |
| 00:29.32 | kadrahil | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/74720 |
| 00:29.51 | NeoTron | man past the patch, Solarian is so difficult zomg |
| 00:30.18 | Mudkips | lolwut |
| 00:31.05 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50571 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 - fix issue with global Tablet. |
| 00:31.28 | NeoTron | yeah man I think we wiped 0 times before we got her down |
| 00:31.37 | kadrahil | ckknight: thanks :D |
| 00:31.38 | NeoTron | and we only played like crap and had ppl 'sploding all over the place |
| 00:31.45 | NeoTron | seriously though, she's so easy now |
| 00:31.57 | NeoTron | Lootmancer Solarian |
| 00:32.08 | NeoTron | probably swapped places with VR for easiest loot bitch of TK :P |
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| 00:33.41 | charon | erm... how serious are you? as in, should we, a raid that does ssc except vashj and VR, consider doing solarian first instead of al'ar |
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| 00:33.42 | charon | ? |
| 00:34.01 | NeoTron | both al'ar and solarian is easy |
| 00:34.05 | NeoTron | but solarian is really easy now |
| 00:34.14 | NeoTron | I mean before you had to have good aoe to take down the adds fast and not die |
| 00:34.16 | JCinDE | Our Karazhan raid is in limbo. "No instance servers available" for 15 minutes now |
| 00:34.26 | kadrahil | i hope we finally get freaking gruul down this weekend |
| 00:34.30 | kadrahil | then it's straight to VR |
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| 00:34.35 | NeoTron | and had to have two ppl just standing in a corner doing nothing (23-man it) with 1-5 healers dedicated to keeping them alive |
| 00:34.37 | JCinDE | same here, Kadrahil |
| 00:34.54 | NeoTron | you do know VR was buffed? |
| 00:35.01 | NeoTron | slightly... |
| 00:35.01 | kadrahil | nope |
| 00:35.04 | NivFreak | really? |
| 00:35.09 | NeoTron | balls fire more often and/or move faster |
| 00:35.18 | NivFreak | so now days |
| 00:35.21 | NeoTron | which means you get less time to DPS and subsequently need more overall dps to beat the encounter |
| 00:35.21 | kadrahil | do they still stay in the same path though? |
| 00:35.25 | NivFreak | a guild down gruul, mag or VR next? |
| 00:35.26 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 00:35.37 | NivFreak | downs |
| 00:35.38 | Recluse | could anyone shed some light on what i'm doing wrong with Tablet here? http://recluse.pastey.net/74722 |
| 00:35.48 | JCinDE | mag if you have the warlocks heh |
| 00:35.57 | NeoTron | and TK trash isn't exactly cakewalk to begin with :P |
| 00:36.02 | NivFreak | We only have like say, 8 warlocks :) |
| 00:36.03 | NeoTron | mags is pretty easy |
| 00:36.04 | Industrial | you know if I was in a fantasy word and there'd be a way to make my balls move faster I'd be scared. |
| 00:36.06 | charon | NeoTron: yeah i guess they're the same "easy" that my math problems are "trivial" |
| 00:36.12 | JCinDE | mag and gruul are on the same conceptual 'tier' as Karazhan |
| 00:36.14 | NivFreak | but TK's trash drops vortexes |
| 00:36.15 | NivFreak | mmm |
| 00:36.19 | Mudkips | heh |
| 00:36.20 | NeoTron | somewhat of a dps fight in phase 1 but nce that is done, phase 2 can go forever ... if ppl can click |
| 00:36.24 | Mudkips | TK trash sure is a cakewalk now |
| 00:36.28 | Mudkips | even more with kaeltrash nerfed |
| 00:36.31 | ckknight | Recluse: yes, you're doing it wrong |
| 00:36.47 | ckknight | Recluse: the second part is pointless for all intents and purposes |
| 00:36.49 | NeoTron | NivFreak: don't expect any amazing number of vortex drops |
| 00:36.55 | bindi | anyone else having arenamaster problems? |
| 00:36.56 | NivFreak | I just need a few ;) |
| 00:36.57 | NeoTron | rather arare since they removed the attunemtn requirements |
| 00:37.02 | bparkis | i understand |
| 00:37.03 | ckknight | Recluse: and were you calling :OnTooltipUpdate() manually instead of :UpdateTooltip()? |
| 00:37.42 | NivFreak | daddy needs a blazefury |
| 00:37.59 | Recluse | ckknight: hmm, i think i did call the :On directly. interesting point. |
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| 00:38.49 | Recluse | ckknight: the second part was just something i go to looking at cause it complained about needing a :Register() call XD let me try to just call :Update |
| 00:38.59 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r50572 10Enhancer/ (ReadMe.txt bonus/Invigorated.lua bonus/Windfury.lua): |
| 00:38.59 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 00:38.59 | CIA-12 | - Added CD to Invigorated (no idea if it works as I don't have the gear for Invigorated) |
| 00:40.31 | JCinDE | split! |
| 00:40.31 | JCinDE | zelazny went boom it seems |
| 00:40.31 | Nosrac | oh my god |
| 00:40.58 | Stanzilla2 | I SURVIVED! |
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| 00:42.14 | bparkis | i am death, destroyer of worlds |
| 00:42.15 | JCinDE | I'm hungry. |
| 00:42.15 | CIA-12 | 03charon 07charon * r50573 10Omen/Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: |
| 00:42.15 | CIA-12 | Omen: |
| 00:42.15 | CIA-12 | - let Aggro_Gain pullout compare with #2 threat if player has aggro (not fully tested, please give feedback) |
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| 00:42.16 | bparkis | you are hungry, destroyer of worlds |
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| 00:44.03 | charon | goodnight |
| 00:44.05 | Recluse | \o/ ckknight, ty just needed to call :Update rather than :On |
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| 00:44.46 | JCinDE | going on half an hour of "No instance servers available" |
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| 00:54.02 | rubik | there an addon that will show who is speaking via the blizz voice chat? or is that not possible? |
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| 00:54.24 | Ellipsis | default UI shows it, addons will catch up soon |
| 00:54.27 | genetik- | rubik: i think i saw grid support get added recently |
| 00:54.27 | rubik | (i.e. the name of the speaking person displayed in a frame somewhere) |
| 00:54.28 | Zhinjio | rubik: don't need an addon for that. It does that already in game. |
| 00:54.39 | rubik | i don't mean on the frame with an icon.. that's lame |
| 00:54.51 | Zhinjio | hehehehee. granted. |
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| 00:59.38 | MentalPower | Kaelten: ping! |
| 01:03.08 | Kaelten | MentalPower: PONG! |
| 01:03.14 | JCinDE | getting people to update Omen seems to be fixing the version reporting problem |
| 01:03.14 | Krittick | my ui: http://project-nex.us/project-nex.us/image/ui2.jpg |
| 01:03.18 | Krittick | er |
| 01:03.24 | Krittick | my ui: http://project-nex.us/image/ui2.jpg |
| 01:03.27 | Krittick | there we go |
| 01:04.36 | Krittick | I know it probably sucks :( |
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| 01:07.06 | sztanpet | why do you show the actionbar? you already have everything bound to a key, you dont need to look at them |
| 01:07.32 | JoshBorke | i show mine because i like to see the cooldowns |
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| 01:07.45 | sztanpet | yea i have dotimer for that |
| 01:07.53 | sztanpet | above my unitframe |
| 01:08.14 | JoshBorke | i'm glad that works for you :-) |
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| 01:11.08 | dylanm | What I like about having cooldowns on the action bars (and in turn having those visible) is that the locations are consistent. There's a tradeoff there obviously but for me it just works better. |
| 01:11.59 | bparkis | murder is awesome |
| 01:12.47 | bparkis | it's like unsanctioned war where you are the general |
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| 01:14.23 | bparkis | burn the oil |
| 01:16.06 | bparkis | smile people |
| 01:17.30 | LetheKai | Hey, is there anyone here who could talk to me about WoW's Attack Table? |
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| 01:19.04 | JoshBorke | attack table? |
| 01:19.14 | bparkis | che guevara |
| 01:19.16 | LetheKai | http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_Table |
| 01:19.22 | bparkis | that's your attack table |
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| 01:21.39 | LetheKai | Trying to understand raid tanking better. But kind of confused... it looks like at a certain point, with certain abilities, raid tanks can't be hit with any white damage at all... and without the blocking specials up they can't be hit by anything EXCEPT crushing blows. So... a well-geared tank will never be hit by ordinary damage, only crushing? |
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| 01:22.28 | genetik- | LetheKai: backwards |
| 01:22.57 | LetheKai | According to the wiki, ordinary damage is below crushing on the table. So it's pushed off before crushing. |
| 01:23.05 | LetheKai | (Not crits, crushing.) |
| 01:24.04 | genetik- | LetheKai: http://evilempireguild.org/guides/ |
| 01:28.22 | genetik- | LetheKai: all sorts of good tanking information on that site. i recommend you read all of it. |
| 01:28.51 | JCinDE | anyone know of any mod that successfully suppresses the tooltips for world units and objects? (Cowtip doesn't currently) |
| 01:28.55 | rubik | for a druid tank, with "too much" dodge %, he will be a lot more likely to be crushed than regular-hit |
| 01:29.19 | rubik | for a warrior tank, with improved thunderclap up and shield blocking every time it isn't on cooldown, he can avoid crushing blows |
| 01:29.23 | LetheKai | I read a little of it Genetik, since it's linked from the Attack Table wiki I linked here, but so far haven't found anything to contradict the wiki. |
| 01:29.27 | rubik | so we're talking different animals |
| 01:29.36 | Mudkips | ( rubik ) for a druid tank, with "too much" dodge %, he will be a lot more likely to be crushed than regular-hit |
| 01:29.39 | Mudkips | I call bs on that |
| 01:29.52 | LetheKai | It shows the table the same: regular hits below crushing blows (therefore pushed off first). |
| 01:29.52 | sztanpet | quite logical tho |
| 01:30.08 | rubik | you can call bs all you want.. i have both a druid and warrior tank and both have tanked all of karazhan |
| 01:30.21 | rubik | and have purple tanking gear, uncritable, etc. |
| 01:30.22 | Mudkips | and? |
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| 01:30.56 | Gngsk | didn't you get the memo? |
| 01:30.59 | Corgan | ... |
| 01:31.09 | Corgan | you don't have an increased chance to be crushed |
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| 01:31.14 | Mudkips | that's like saying the more agi a druid gets, the likely that druid will get crushed more |
| 01:31.16 | LetheKai | If this Attack Table stuff is true, Mudkips, then a tank with gear that puts him in "that range" should have pushed regular hits OFF the attack table, but doesn't have enough mitigation to push crushing blows off. AKA crushed more than regular hits. |
| 01:31.18 | Mudkips | thats just stupid |
| 01:31.23 | Corgan | you'll see the same amount of crushing blows as with less dodge |
| 01:31.33 | Corgan | . |
| 01:31.37 | Wobwork | Tanking is so interesting... |
| 01:31.44 | Corgan | to be crushed more than normal hits, you would have to have less than 15% chance to be hit |
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| 01:31.48 | rubik | http://druid.wikispaces.com/armorvsdodge |
| 01:31.50 | LetheKai | He said more crush THAN regular, not extra crushing blows. |
| 01:31.52 | Wobwork | I've never made a tank, but it seems like fun, if complex |
| 01:31.59 | rubik | text search for "crushing" there.. and read that paragraph |
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| 01:32.20 | Paene | Anyone here handle hiring of employees at their jobs? |
| 01:32.27 | genetik- | Wobwork: just compensating for math |
| 01:32.41 | LetheKai | Yeah, I hate math, this is gonna be rough. -_- |
| 01:32.43 | genetik- | hehe |
| 01:32.43 | Wobwork | Paene: Looking for a job? =) |
| 01:32.47 | Paene | lol |
| 01:33.03 | Paene | yeah, but primarily looking for resume advice from a person who does actual hiring :) |
| 01:33.21 | rubik | "dodged attacks replace normal hits and not crushing blows. So if you get hit 100 times and your dodge chance is 20%, you'll dodge 20 hits and get crushed 15 times. If your dodgerate improves to 30%, you will dodge 30 hits, but will still get crushed 15 times, so the relative amount of crushing blows you get will increase." |
| 01:33.22 | Wobwork | Simple cover letter, tailor your CV to the job, don't go over a couple of pages |
| 01:33.32 | Paene | 3 pages too much? |
| 01:33.36 | Wobwork | That's to get to first stage at least |
| 01:33.44 | Wobwork | as long as it isn't too wordy |
| 01:33.53 | Paene | I'm a student, looking for an internship/co-op |
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| 01:34.02 | eibit | 1-2 pages imo, unless you actually have that much work experience related to the position you're applying for |
| 01:34.10 | LetheKai | Yah, I agree with rubik, though I'm newb at this. It coincides with what I've read. |
| 01:34.12 | Wobwork | You want to grab their attention, and keep it for as long as you can, generally the ones reading the entry level CVs have very very short attention spans |
| 01:34.33 | genetik- | Paene: i sometimes conduct interviews at my company.. resumes that are more than one sheet of paper lose my interest usually |
| 01:34.33 | Wobwork | since they have to go through so many |
| 01:34.34 | Paene | heh, I don't have any work exp in the field...I have some non-profit exp listed |
| 01:34.37 | JoshBorke | i've heard 1 page for getting in the door, when you hear back longer |
| 01:34.38 | eibit | for example, your job at mcdonald's in high school probably isn't relevant |
| 01:35.07 | Wobwork | if you have no experience in the area, you'd better hype your other skills then |
| 01:35.27 | LetheKai | Man, tanking is confusing. *sigh* |
| 01:35.34 | rubik | haha |
| 01:35.36 | genetik- | LetheKai: are you a warrior or druid? |
| 01:35.41 | genetik- | (i might have missed that part) |
| 01:35.48 | genetik- | or paladin |
| 01:35.48 | genetik- | heh |
| 01:35.56 | Wobwork | eibit: It -could- be relevant if it was a management position and you're going for one =) |
| 01:36.01 | rubik | both druid/warriors have their advantages/disadvantages.. but let's not get into that.. i enjoy tanking with both of mine, honestly |
| 01:36.46 | Paene | I have a lot of employment history (summer jobs) and I feel if I cut them out, it'll look bad that I had such huge employment gaps |
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| 01:37.25 | LetheKai | Genetik: Paladin |
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| 01:37.34 | genetik- | cool |
| 01:37.41 | rubik | oh.. hehe |
| 01:37.47 | Wobwork | Paene: are you just out of college? |
| 01:37.51 | Paene | still in |
| 01:37.58 | Paene | 4th year Junior |
| 01:38.00 | Wobwork | Employment gaps aren't really an issue =) |
| 01:38.01 | Paene | almost a Senior |
| 01:38.04 | eibit | HR doesn't care whether you're employed most of the time or not. when they look at your resume, they want to find stuff that matches the position that's opened, so they can proceed with contacting you or not. |
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| 01:38.07 | rubik | LetheKai: you read this, right? http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladins_as_Tanks |
| 01:38.21 | Wobwork | It's only once you're out of college that the gaps become more relevant |
| 01:38.43 | Wobwork | and yeah, that only becomes important once you get past the first screening |
| 01:38.47 | Paene | so stick to things that are relevant, keep it to 2 pages or less |
| 01:38.50 | Wobwork | yep |
| 01:38.56 | LetheKai | So there's no way to get rid of crushing blows WITHOUT a skill/spell (Shield Block/Holy Shield)? Meaning Druids are SoL in certain situations? I've heard that before but didn't know why. Unless Druids have a new ability I don't know about. |
| 01:38.58 | Wobwork | Make it clear to read |
| 01:39.01 | Wobwork | no funky fonts |
| 01:39.02 | Paene | it is |
| 01:39.06 | genetik- | LetheKai: that's correct |
| 01:39.12 | Wobwork | contact details slightly larger on the front |
| 01:39.19 | Paene | Times New Roman, bulleted instead of blocked |
| 01:39.22 | rubik | druids cannot push crushing blows off the attack table, that is correct |
| 01:39.24 | Paene | it's for a job fair |
| 01:39.26 | LetheKai | Rubik: Not yet, I will now though. Read 2 other really in-depth guides and have another one open. This stuff is sooo interesting! |
| 01:39.33 | rubik | crits, yes, crushing blows, no |
| 01:39.37 | Paene | so I'm pretty sure they're not looking for cover letters |
| 01:39.38 | Gngsk | I thought warriors would be crush immune in full t6 w/o shield block |
| 01:39.46 | Paene | if I were mailing it off, I'd provide one |
| 01:39.51 | genetik- | druid tanks mitigate crushing blows well, though |
| 01:39.51 | ZealotOnAStick | funky, vhaarr, ammo, any of you three around? |
| 01:40.02 | LetheKai | Thanks Genetik/Rubik. |
| 01:40.05 | genetik- | no problem |
| 01:40.18 | genetik- | tanking's my think :) |
| 01:40.22 | rubik | yup.. lots more of the extra dmg from crushign blows is mitigated, so we don't eat all of it |
| 01:40.24 | genetik- | thing, rather |
| 01:40.35 | LetheKai | So I think it still seems like you can push regular blows off and still be crushed (if you don't have enough mitigation with Shield Block/Holy Shield to push crushing off). |
| 01:40.37 | Wobwork | Hm, I've never done a job fair, so I'm not sure how much influence the stall flunkies may have if at all |
| 01:40.56 | LetheKai | Which is what I said earlier, though I may not have phrased it very clearly. |
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| 01:41.19 | Paene | anyone hiring? :-p |
| 01:41.47 | LetheKai | Do you disagree Genetik? |
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| 01:42.35 | genetik- | kind of |
| 01:42.57 | genetik- | you always have a chance of getting hit |
| 01:42.59 | rubik | it's hard for me to understand how pallies work so i'm honestly not sure |
| 01:43.16 | rubik | but that http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladins_as_Tanks explains it pretty well from what i remember |
| 01:43.20 | LetheKai | It's not just pallies, it's everyone. |
| 01:43.27 | genetik- | there's a better visual table than the one on wowwiki that i've seen |
| 01:43.29 | genetik- | let me see if i can find it |
| 01:43.34 | LetheKai | http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_Table |
| 01:43.36 | Paene | Wobwork: Thanks for the help :) |
| 01:43.59 | LetheKai | On both the wiki and that Warrior Tanking site you linked me Genetik it shows regular hits as the very last item on the table. |
| 01:44.06 | genetik- | yeah, that's right |
| 01:44.18 | rubik | search for "102.4%" on that article |
| 01:44.19 | genetik- | have you played any table top roleplaying games at all? |
| 01:44.20 | LetheKai | So they HAVE to be pushed off before crushing, right? Or is there another exception? |
| 01:44.28 | LetheKai | Yeah I saw that Rubik. =D |
| 01:44.39 | LetheKai | Um... tiny tiny bit of D&D Genetik. |
| 01:44.58 | Wobwork | Paene: No worries, good luck =) |
| 01:45.02 | genetik- | heh.. me too.. you remember getting swords with +2 to hit and whatnot? |
| 01:45.29 | genetik- | (trying to see if i can explain the table better than visually) |
| 01:45.47 | LetheKai | Yeah Genetik. |
| 01:46.15 | genetik- | with a +2 sword of infinite ownage, you roll say a 12-sided die |
| 01:46.18 | genetik- | to see if you hit or not |
| 01:46.32 | genetik- | but since you have the +2 to hit on your sword, you add that +2 to whatever you rolled |
| 01:46.50 | genetik- | now.. think of that +2 that you added as the area that "miss" took up |
| 01:46.51 | LetheKai | Right. |
| 01:47.26 | genetik- | then if you had a +4 sword of extra ownage, you could avoid the mob dodging |
| 01:47.44 | eibit | does range checking work for anyone using pitbull's raid frames ? |
| 01:47.46 | genetik- | or something |
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| 01:48.51 | genetik- | so getting back to tanking, if you have enough avoidance (dodge, parry, block, etc), you can eventually "push everything else off of the table" so that you can only be hit |
| 01:48.54 | genetik- | on a dice roll |
| 01:49.08 | genetik- | i _think_ i explained that right |
| 01:50.03 | LetheKai | Sorry, if you did it still went over my head. 8( Why do they list ordinary hits on the table at all if they are separate (like the mob has a +2 sword or whatever)? |
| 01:50.04 | kadrahil | does Jncl ever show up around here? |
| 01:50.08 | kadrahil | found a bug in skinner: http://ace.pastey.net/74724 |
| 01:50.12 | Ellipsis | ~seen jncl |
| 01:50.14 | purl | Ellipsis: i haven't seen 'jncl' |
| 01:50.17 | Ellipsis | guess not |
| 01:50.24 | Ellipsis | post it on the forums |
| 01:50.27 | LetheKai | If you can be hit no matter what your stats, it doesn't seem like it should be on the table. |
| 01:50.31 | LetheKai | Regular-hit. |
| 01:50.38 | genetik- | LetheKai: your healer doesn't have any of those extra avoidance stats |
| 01:51.11 | genetik- | gah.. let me see if i can find that other table |
| 01:51.22 | genetik- | really bothering me that i can't just reference that |
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| 01:52.08 | LetheKai | Sorry hehe. |
| 01:52.15 | genetik- | not your fault |
| 01:52.18 | genetik- | it might not even exist anymore |
| 01:52.28 | genetik- | which would suck |
| 01:52.37 | genetik- | because i remember it explaining it so clearly |
| 01:52.53 | LetheKai | lol |
| 01:54.13 | genetik- | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/attacks.php |
| 01:54.17 | genetik- | actually.. that explains it pretty well |
| 01:54.30 | genetik- | not the table i was looking for, but it's a good explaination |
| 01:54.42 | LetheKai | Oh I think I get it. |
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| 01:55.27 | genetik- | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/combatmath.php |
| 01:55.28 | genetik- | also there |
| 01:55.32 | LetheKai | Though it confuses me about stuff getting "pushed off"... I guess pushing off doesn't apply to ordinary hits then. It's the last thing, so if none of the above apply, then as a result the attack HAS to be an ordinary hit. |
| 01:55.48 | genetik- | LetheKai: right |
| 01:55.54 | LetheKai | Hehe thanks! |
| 01:55.56 | genetik- | hehe |
| 01:56.21 | genetik- | like i said.. i recommend reading those guides on there.. even if you're a paladin tank.. a lot of the stuff might still be relevant |
| 01:56.25 | LetheKai | I appreciate the help. ^^ Group's on, gotta log in! Take it easy. |
| 01:56.27 | LetheKai | *nod* I will. |
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| 02:02.48 | xyu | can one cancel buffs through a macro? |
| 02:03.01 | aestil | ~seen funkeh |
| 02:03.02 | purl | funkeh <n=funkydud@host81-158-173-52.range81-158.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 184d 8h 3m 32s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 02:03.02 | Ellipsis | /cancelaura |
| 02:03.04 | xyu | say for a pally who gets feared and wants to Bubble but remove that bubble |
| 02:03.05 | xyu | right away |
| 02:03.07 | xyu | what would i type |
| 02:03.11 | Ellipsis | ...see above |
| 02:03.15 | aestil | WTF, how does he say it? |
| 02:03.34 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:03.45 | Ellipsis | ~seen funkeh` |
| 02:03.46 | purl | funkeh` <n=funkydud@host81-157-50-199.range81-157.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 7m 12s ago, saying: 'later folks'. |
| 02:03.48 | Ellipsis | better? |
| 02:04.08 | AnduinLothar | why is omen still in beta? |
| 02:04.17 | xyu | ./cancelaura Divine Shield |
| 02:04.18 | xyu | like that? |
| 02:04.21 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 02:04.24 | Gngsk | why is there a plaque to you in honor hold? |
| 02:04.33 | AnduinLothar | cause i'm awesome |
| 02:04.38 | Gngsk | so is omen |
| 02:04.53 | AnduinLothar | so shouldn't that mean it's not beta? |
| 02:05.02 | AnduinLothar | what is this... gmail? |
| 02:05.05 | kandarz | yes |
| 02:05.07 | kandarz | and flickr |
| 02:05.15 | Gngsk | stuart scott |
| 02:05.36 | AnduinLothar | beta must be the new tag word for leet haxor new shit |
| 02:05.46 | kandarz | ~beta |
| 02:05.46 | purl | beta is, like, send a mail to mailto:info@eongames.com if you want to be part of beta tests of future releases. |
| 02:05.58 | kandarz | hmmm |
| 02:07.34 | kandarz | ckknight, do you know how long it usually takes kealten to make new svn usernames? |
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| 02:07.52 | Nosrac | kandarz: I got mine the next day, I think |
| 02:07.59 | Nosrac | kandarz: I kinda feel bad. I haven't used it yet >< |
| 02:08.17 | kandarz | want to import my addon |
| 02:09.03 | Trisorion | any of you guys use avion |
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| 02:11.00 | Trisorion | Where could i get some help with avion besides it's thread (no one answers there) |
| 02:13.22 | kandarz | is there's an author email in the toc, you could use that |
| 02:13.34 | kandarz | has avion been updated in the last couple weeks? |
| 02:14.16 | Neebler | anyone know the script command to increase combat log range to 200 yards? |
| 02:18.17 | fuzzy_sys | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.54 | Gngsk | /print GetCVar("CombatLogRangeParty") |
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| 02:20.31 | rob` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.04 | DrWily | hah |
| 02:21.17 | fuzzy_sys | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.38 | fuzzy_sys | in battlegrounds... |
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| 02:23.31 | Nosrac | So, Am I the only one who thinks the whole Cartace/FuBarAce is a dumb idea? |
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| 02:28.43 | Trisorion | Avion, use it do you? |
| 02:29.39 | ckknight | Nosrac: oh, I do |
| 02:29.49 | Nosrac | I was hoping I wasn't alone ;-/ |
| 02:30.05 | liquidzoo | I haven't heard of that... |
| 02:30.26 | Nosrac | I was looking in the forums and I hoped that when I saw the forum title it was a joke >< |
| 02:30.49 | Trisorion | I cant get it to work |
| 02:31.07 | Arrowmaster | woot leo down |
| 02:31.17 | Trisorion | It supposed to come with 52 default textures? no? |
| 02:31.34 | Nosrac | Hopefully they're just temporary solutions for the people who don't like betas |
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| 02:32.34 | aestil | well, bigwigs on vashj is correct now. |
| 02:32.48 | aestil | ~seen sirow |
| 02:32.50 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4EA28.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 28m 51s ago, saying: 'Btw. Why not put: "WoWace down for maintaince" in IRC topic?'. |
| 02:32.50 | Nosrac | Hey, ckknight, any chance of a beta LibDewDrop anytime soon ;-)? |
| 02:33.07 | ckknight | Nosrac: you people need to get off my back |
| 02:33.33 | aestil | ckknight: i don't like dewdrop. please don't provide it. |
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| 02:33.47 | Nosrac | I apologize =(. I'm loving Rock so far, just wondering when the last wonder-lib is coming ;-P |
| 02:33.47 | aestil | people will start using it as an embed, and then i will have to kill myself. |
| 02:33.54 | Wobwork | oh noes =P |
| 02:34.09 | Wobwork | You have people threatening their lives on the subject =P |
| 02:34.25 | Wobwork | wts omgohnoesdrama |
| 02:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | okay folks, I have a life or death decision here. |
| 02:34.52 | Wobwork | Paper or Plastic? |
| 02:35.00 | aestil | NOOOO |
| 02:35.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Dinner: Soup, pizza (frozen), or Take-out teriyaki? |
| 02:35.08 | Wobwork | Teriyaki |
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| 02:35.43 | Crazysteve | Hi |
| 02:35.46 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50575 10AFX/ (AFX.lua AFX.toc readme.txt): |
| 02:35.46 | CIA-12 | AFX: |
| 02:35.46 | CIA-12 | - quick fix for sound bug from 2.2 patch |
| 02:36.11 | Crazysteve | Does anyone have a warrior tank addon pack? |
| 02:36.48 | aestil | bringing 'new' people to vashj, so they can get the vial, sucks ass. |
| 02:37.03 | sylvanaar | you know i tried the fix to playsoundfile but it makes an annoying noise |
| 02:37.27 | aestil | i have a guildie asking about moving buttons in combat, is there a reason we can't do that anymore with BT3? |
| 02:37.36 | Wobwork | combat frame lock |
| 02:37.46 | Wobwork | generally |
| 02:38.12 | Wobwork | the majority of 'actionable' buttons are locked by Blizzard in combat |
| 02:38.20 | Arcaia | I HAVE A MOVIE COMING UP SOON |
| 02:38.25 | Arcaia | >.> let me render/upload |
| 02:38.30 | Wobwork | to prevent decursing/autohealing addons |
| 02:41.24 | aestil | Wobwork: some people say that blizzard 'standard' buttons are able to move them? |
| 02:41.55 | Wobwork | define 'move'>? |
| 02:42.20 | Wobwork | putting different skills on it with drag/drop? |
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| 02:43.27 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r50576 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: |
| 02:43.28 | CIA-12 | Prescription: |
| 02:43.28 | CIA-12 | - Added: Flask of Pure Death and Flask of Blinding Light |
| 02:43.28 | CIA-12 | - Fixed hidden whisper code |
| 02:45.29 | Arcaia | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kfd3KkOmI5k |
| 02:45.31 | Arcaia | =D |
| 02:45.32 | Arcaia | got bored. |
| 02:47.25 | Crazysteve | Does anyone have a warrior tank addon pack? |
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| 02:51.49 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50577 10TweakHub_Inbox/ (22 files in 7 dirs): |
| 02:51.49 | CIA-12 | TweakHub_Inbox: initial commit |
| 02:51.49 | CIA-12 | - TweakHub module to make your inbox a little friendlier. |
| 02:51.51 | Arcaia | omen + bt3 + pitbull |
| 02:52.00 | Arcaia | bring everything down to nil |
| 02:52.04 | Arcaia | enjoy fullscreen wow |
| 02:52.06 | Arcaia | as a warrior. |
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| 02:53.01 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r50578 10MendWatch/MendWatch.lua: |
| 02:53.01 | CIA-12 | MendWatch: |
| 02:53.01 | CIA-12 | - Anchor saving bug fixed (tested thoroughly this time) |
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| 02:57.16 | QuantumDelta | Warriors use addons outside of a threat meter? :< |
| 02:57.31 | QuantumDelta | they normally only use that cuz they're forced! |
| 02:57.32 | QuantumDelta | lazy class |
| 02:57.39 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 03:00.28 | Fisker- | wrumm wrumm hyperChipmunk |
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| 03:02.45 | CIA-12 | 03samuelcup * r50579 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-zhCN.lua: Bartender3: zhCN updated |
| 03:02.52 | Tekkub | some hippie give Kael a torrent prog please |
| 03:02.55 | Tekkub | the fucker |
| 03:03.53 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 03:04.09 | QuantumDelta | Yea that one went over my head too |
| 03:04.12 | Tekkub | he's all like "I'm on a mac I can't use utorrent" |
| 03:04.47 | Nosrac | Well, that noob needs to get him XTorrent |
| 03:05.06 | QuantumDelta | Would that would be because macs are the devil but yea xtorrent works :< |
| 03:05.07 | Fisker- | you got it all wrong |
| 03:05.12 | Fisker- | we need to give him a PC |
| 03:05.15 | QuantumDelta | haha |
| 03:05.20 | Nosrac | lol |
| 03:05.26 | Nosrac | Macs ftw =) |
| 03:05.29 | Tekkub | nah just get him bootcamp |
| 03:05.41 | Fisker- | So i take out my gun |
| 03:05.44 | Fisker- | i'm gonna count to 3 |
| 03:05.46 | Nosrac | Bootcamp's beta actually expires sometime in October ;-o |
| 03:06.43 | Nosrac | Fisker-: I'm getting this vibe like you don't like Macs or something crazy like that! |
| 03:07.06 | Fisker- | that's crazytalk |
| 03:07.11 | Nosrac | That's what I thought! |
| 03:08.36 | Arcaia | I LIKE PIE. |
| 03:09.06 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 03:12.02 | Tekkub | <You are NOT Repaired> |
| 03:12.07 | Tekkub | I need to start a guild... |
| 03:12.30 | liquidzoo | lol |
| 03:14.30 | Arcaia | I want to start a guild for all my alts. |
| 03:15.09 | QuantumDelta | might not actually be a bad idea with guild banks Arcaia ;p |
| 03:15.34 | Tekkub | yea guild banks with an alt guild would rock |
| 03:15.35 | CIA-12 | 03samuelcup * r50580 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua: ag_UnitFrames: zhCN updated |
| 03:15.57 | liquidzoo | Hm. Cowtip is acting kinda funny for me. Going to play around with it to see if I can figure out why. |
| 03:15.59 | Tekkub | if you're a packrat, I try not to be... I cleaned out my 2 mules and BALETED! them |
| 03:16.16 | QuantumDelta | I'm such a packrat |
| 03:16.36 | QuantumDelta | I still have my Finkle's Lava Dredger and Sulfuras, and a few other things from pre-tbc :< |
| 03:16.41 | QuantumDelta | full judgement, etc! |
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| 03:17.38 | CIA-12 | 03samuelcup * r50581 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua: ag_UnitFrames: zhCN updated for fonts |
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| 03:28.59 | Seerah | wow..... |
| 03:28.59 | Seerah | I haven't seen this channel this quiet in a while |
| 03:28.59 | Wobwork | ~seen Ellipsis |
| 03:29.27 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace (2h 48m 26s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 1h 25m 6s, last said: 'yep'. |
| 03:29.35 | Paene | Wobwork: Down to a page and a half! |
| 03:29.39 | Wobwork | Paene: woot =) |
| 03:29.44 | Wobwork | perfect =) |
| 03:31.05 | Arcaia | Wobwork: Ellipsis is afk, bed or something. |
| 03:31.19 | Wobwork | That could explain the silence =) |
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| 03:31.32 | Fisker- | WORK TIEM |
| 03:31.33 | Fisker- | bye |
| 03:31.34 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:32.46 | sylvanaar | i have my t 0.5, 1, and 2 in the bank on 2 chars still |
| 03:34.10 | Seerah | I'm a packrat, too |
| 03:34.43 | Wobwork | =( |
| 03:34.49 | Wobwork | I ran a SH run last night |
| 03:34.57 | Wobwork | Our healer was wearing 4/8 lightbringer |
| 03:35.18 | Seerah | maybe he was just *that* good?.... |
| 03:35.21 | Wobwork | Our tank was doing a mighty 37 tps on multiple tanked mobs |
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| 03:36.00 | Wobwork | I admit, he wasn't a bad healer at all |
| 03:36.06 | Seerah | I bet that was a fun run, eh? |
| 03:36.08 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:36.14 | Wobwork | It actually was =) |
| 03:36.23 | Wobwork | We didn't get past the hall to the second boss |
| 03:36.30 | Wobwork | But I got my share of evasion tanking in =) |
| 03:36.46 | Seerah | lol |
| 03:36.59 | Wobwork | dual wielding warrior tank |
| 03:37.03 | Wobwork | offtank pally |
| 03:37.10 | Wobwork | rogue (me), mage and pally healer |
| 03:37.27 | Wobwork | tank was horrible |
| 03:37.32 | aestil | why isn't cartographer instance maps comming up when I'm in TKE? |
| 03:37.42 | Wobwork | I could pull aggro off her on her -main- target |
| 03:37.49 | Wobwork | god knows what she was doing |
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| 03:38.37 | elusif | so i have my nelf rogue up to level 15 and shadowmelt is great |
| 03:38.45 | elusif | but would a gnomes racial be better? |
| 03:38.46 | Wobwork | and if you can't multitarget tank in SH, you're doomed =P |
| 03:38.54 | Wobwork | Shadowmeld is cool |
| 03:39.07 | Wobwork | but the gnome racial gives you another snarebreaker |
| 03:39.09 | elusif | is it better than the gnome racial for dispelling imbolization? |
| 03:39.16 | Wobwork | depends on if you're going to pvp a lot |
| 03:39.22 | elusif | i want only to pvp |
| 03:39.25 | elusif | and it's a pvp server |
| 03:39.29 | Wobwork | go gnome |
| 03:39.31 | Seerah | but rogues have stealth already |
| 03:39.32 | elusif | fuck |
| 03:39.35 | Wobwork | you're smaller, harder to hit |
| 03:39.41 | elusif | harder to see |
| 03:39.44 | Wobwork | shadowmeld is good for stealth though |
| 03:39.50 | elusif | yeah that's true seerah |
| 03:39.51 | Wobwork | it adds another level to the stealth |
| 03:39.52 | aestil | vashj is a pussy. |
| 03:40.01 | Thelyna | escape artist > shadowmeld |
| 03:40.05 | Seerah | yeah |
| 03:40.05 | aestil | you think its hard, until you kill her a few times, and then its like a glorified razorgore. |
| 03:40.06 | Wobwork | but yes =) |
| 03:40.11 | elusif | nelves also have a dodge increase |
| 03:40.17 | Wobwork | not worth it |
| 03:40.23 | elusif | bah |
| 03:40.28 | Wobwork | well, escape artist still outweighs that =) |
| 03:40.30 | elusif | it only took two days i guess |
| 03:40.50 | elusif | i think stun is the only thing escape artist cannot break |
| 03:40.57 | elusif | can rogues get an insignia of the alliance? |
| 03:41.01 | Wobwork | yes |
| 03:41.06 | Wobwork | ..if you're alliance =) |
| 03:41.10 | elusif | :) |
| 03:41.15 | elusif | and is there another breaker trinket? |
| 03:41.47 | Wobwork | not sure |
| 03:41.53 | elusif | it's a pity gnomes have to start out in if |
| 03:41.57 | xyu | omfg yay!! after 24 runs of Steamvaults, i finally have Devilshark cloak. |
| 03:42.06 | Wobwork | xyu: grats =) |
| 03:42.44 | xyu | that was some frustrating work. i haven't been that obsessed since skullsmoke pants >< |
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| 03:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I remember those dropped for my warrior on my first run... |
| 03:43.37 | xyu | i look back on the stats of skullsmoke...andi 'm just like wow. i tried so hard for thosE? |
| 03:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | er, that, i guess. |
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| 03:44.11 | Wobwork | xyu: You'll be doing the same for Devilshark when you hit the next xpac =P |
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| 03:44.55 | xyu | i'm usually damn lucky w/ drops >< |
| 03:45.28 | Wobwork | Same |
| 03:45.35 | Wobwork | that leads to issues with rep though |
| 03:46.01 | Wobwork | It's much more satisfying to do a rep run if you can also chance to score an item with it |
| 03:46.06 | Wobwork | than doing runs for rep alone |
| 03:46.25 | aestil | ~seen buu |
| 03:46.32 | purl | buu is currently on #debian #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace. Has said a total of 144 messages. Is idling for 5h 13m 17s, last said: 'Sounds good.'. |
| 03:46.43 | buu | WHO?! |
| 03:47.00 | elusif | gnomes do have stupid mounts though |
| 03:47.04 | xyu | what should i enchant the cloak with (pally tank) |
| 03:47.24 | xyu | i love gnome mounts o_O |
| 03:47.31 | xyu | must've grew on me |
| 03:48.56 | elusif | that click noise is going to drive me crazy |
| 03:49.10 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 03:49.14 | Wobwork | they're too... jerky |
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| 03:53.28 | aestil | buu i want to buy blessings. |
| 03:53.40 | aestil | does horde have alot of blessings we could smuggle across? |
| 03:54.35 | buu | aestil: Blessings? Blessings of what? |
| 03:56.49 | elusif | i hope there's a graphics rehaul when they relase the lich king |
| 03:56.53 | elusif | it's starting to look really old |
| 03:58.20 | aestil | buu blessings deck |
| 03:58.47 | buu | Oh. |
| 03:59.04 | buu | It seems unlikely, but I suppose it's possible. |
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| 04:04.35 | aestil | ckknight: rock config is awesome, also, like 18 of 25 people in my raid have librockcomm |
| 04:07.09 | kandarz | how do you check who has librockcomm |
| 04:07.10 | CIA-12 | 03fenlis * r50582 10ACP/ACP.xml: ACP: Fixed position of "Addons" button |
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| 04:09.45 | aestil | kandarz: [TalentSpec] |
| 04:10.38 | ckknight | aestil: good times |
| 04:10.58 | xsappy1 | So, I have a question.. For us linux users, is there anyone that has reimplemented the .net WoWAceUpdater in another language that is more linux friendly? I'm working on a version in Ruby right now, and figured i would ask before i continue reinventing the wheel |
| 04:11.33 | Antiarc | There's a java version |
| 04:13.01 | kandarz | ~wau2 |
| 04:13.01 | purl | methinks wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 04:13.30 | aestil | ckknight: should i jira ticket my request to beable to nudge buffs/debuffs away from the frame? |
| 04:13.42 | ckknight | probably |
| 04:13.54 | xsappy1 | hm, that may be a grand alternative, thanks guys |
| 04:14.30 | Arcaia | i need to redo my ui |
| 04:14.39 | Arcaia | on my rogue |
| 04:15.15 | elusif | which race is your rogue arcaia? |
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| 04:23.38 | Arcaia | human |
| 04:23.56 | elusif | any particular reason you didn't got with gnome or nelf? |
| 04:24.05 | elusif | s/go/got |
| 04:24.35 | Arcaia | for pve purposes, didnt need extra stealth/etc, and imo perception is a more useful talent than shadowmeld. |
| 04:24.43 | Arcaia | and i hate gnomes. |
| 04:24.50 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand arcaia |
| 04:24.53 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 8844 HP; 1412 AP; 337.300 Melee DPS; 26.78% melee crit; 138 melee hit; 22.61% dodge; 55 resilience;[[ TBR: 1458 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24ynam ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wbdfl ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:25:03 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:25.02 | Arcaia | that is wrong. |
| 04:25.04 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 04:25.17 | Arcaia | I have more hp, more crit and more ap than that. |
| 04:25.19 | Arcaia | and more hit |
| 04:25.28 | Arcaia | ~fail ThraeBot |
| 04:25.29 | purl | ThraeBot: Fail. |
| 04:26.24 | elusif | ahh |
| 04:26.29 | elusif | you don't pvp? |
| 04:26.35 | Arcaia | i do now |
| 04:26.46 | Arcaia | because im trying to make a mage for pve content |
| 04:26.48 | elusif | i have a low level nelf just started yesterday |
| 04:26.56 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand Frug |
| 04:26.59 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frug, Level 34 Blood Elf Mage (0/0/25). 823 HP; 2592 Mana; 92 mana regen; 6 mp5; 56 +spell dmg/heal; 20 frost dmg (76); 4.87% dodge;[[ TBR: 361 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eugo8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2phl9k ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:27:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:27.02 | Arcaia | PVP server ;P |
| 04:27.04 | Antiarc | Perception and +5 weapon skill make humans an excellent choice for rogues |
| 04:27.05 | Arcaia | <- 2 accounts |
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| 04:27.26 | elusif | !c outlands elusif |
| 04:27.33 | elusif | !c outland elusif |
| 04:27.35 | elusif | :( |
| 04:27.48 | Arcaia | !c us outland elusif |
| 04:27.48 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: elusif is not the character you are looking for! |
| 04:27.54 | Arcaia | !c eu outland elusif |
| 04:27.57 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Elusif, Level 15 Night Elf Rogue (0/6/0). 313 HP; 8.72% melee crit; 22.44% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 100 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zym3j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dbc8z ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:28:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:28.01 | Arcaia | tada |
| 04:28.03 | elusif | :) |
| 04:28.10 | elusif | making him for pvp |
| 04:28.17 | Arcaia | - !c [loc] [realm] [charactername] |
| 04:28.18 | elusif | but i'm starting to think i should go gnome |
| 04:28.23 | Paene | !c us scilla Lenwe |
| 04:28.26 | ThraeBot | Paene: Lenwe, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (24/37/0). 6241 HP; 8730 Mana; 348 mana regen; 155 mp5; 78 +spell dmg; 1477 +heal; 6.14% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 478 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29zn49 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2upw8x ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:28:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:28.36 | Arcaia | I have a 19 twink on Scilla Paene |
| 04:28.42 | Paene | :) |
| 04:28.47 | elusif | !c eu khadgar cúchullainn |
| 04:28.48 | ThraeBot | elusif: cúchullainn is not the character you are looking for! |
| 04:28.50 | Paene | I'm GM of a guild on Scilla |
| 04:28.53 | Arcaia | ever heard of PMS Guild/ P M S / Somegirl's Guild? |
| 04:28.54 | ZealotOnAStick | So, we got Mother Shahraz down tonight. |
| 04:28.55 | elusif | !c eu khadgar cuchullainn |
| 04:28.56 | ThraeBot | elusif: cuchullainn is not the character you are looking for! |
| 04:28.57 | Paene | and former GM of one of the top guilds |
| 04:29.00 | Arcaia | ever heard of PMS Guild/ P M S / Somegirl's Guild? |
| 04:29.05 | Paene | yeah |
| 04:29.10 | Paene | ever heard of We Down Bosses? |
| 04:29.14 | Arcaia | I raided MC/BWL |
| 04:29.17 | Arcaia | with they |
| 04:29.17 | Arcaia | Yea |
| 04:29.23 | Arcaia | I know of you peeps ;D |
| 04:29.26 | Paene | I was the GM of WDB for 2 years :) |
| 04:29.33 | Arcaia | nice |
| 04:29.39 | Arcaia | http://pmsclan.com/ |
| 04:29.43 | Arcaia | <-- is an H2O member |
| 04:29.47 | Paene | I started a new guild now |
| 04:29.49 | Paene | cool |
| 04:29.50 | Arcaia | if you know that much about the guild |
| 04:29.52 | Paene | n4lguild.com |
| 04:29.56 | Paene | nope :-./ |
| 04:29.59 | Paene | *:-/ |
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| 04:29.59 | elusif | ok i have to stop thinking about wow and get some food before bed |
| 04:30.01 | elusif | nn all |
| 04:30.11 | Paene | I remember talking to Somegirl shortly after we xferred to Scilla |
| 04:30.24 | Paene | she was concerned we were going to actively steal your members |
| 04:30.45 | Arcaia | rofl. |
| 04:30.53 | Arcaia | im not a guild drama person |
| 04:31.01 | Arcaia | i didnt even raid on my character in that guild |
| 04:31.11 | Paene | meh, it was resolved quickly :) I assured her we weren't |
| 04:31.12 | Arcaia | my main was horde and i rolled alliance to join pms clan ;P |
| 04:31.22 | Paene | nice |
| 04:31.25 | Mecdemort | ckknight: The rock fubar plugin doesnt seem to be saving it's settings |
| 04:31.25 | Paene | which server for horde? |
| 04:31.30 | Arcaia | BWL |
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| 04:31.36 | ckknight | Mecdemort: since I fixed it? |
| 04:31.41 | Paene | I have a horde on Detheroc |
| 04:31.41 | Arcaia | deleted my shaman though =( wish I hadnt have |
| 04:31.57 | Paene | !c us detheroc Mogorn |
| 04:32.00 | ThraeBot | Paene: Mogorn, Level 46 Tauren Druid (0/37/0). 2283 HP; 2449 Mana; 97 mana regen; 8.39% melee crit; 13.37% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +10 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 335 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24fyrg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2woowf ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:32:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:32.07 | Arcaia | 57 resto, deleted it roll alliance, remade horde after a while |
| 04:32.11 | Mecdemort | ckknight: I dunno, I don't see an update on WAU if you did it very recently |
| 04:32.23 | ckknight | tell me what doesn't save |
| 04:32.46 | Arcaia | !c us blackwing lair Frugaltomato |
| 04:32.49 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frugaltomato, Level 29 Undead Mage (0/0/20). 833 HP; 2322 Mana; 84 mana regen; 4 spell hit; 5.02% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 171 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26enaa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rlwey ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 00:32:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:32.49 | Mecdemort | i hide the plugin but it keeps coming up as attach to minimap |
| 04:32.59 | Arcaia | my only remains are that 29 twink ;P |
| 04:33.03 | Arcaia | that needs enchants |
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| 04:33.28 | Arcaia | [was made pre-AQ and has been slowly updated since bc] |
| 04:33.43 | ckknight | Mecdemort: I fixed that |
| 04:34.07 | Mecdemort | ckknight: how come you have a plugin at all? just right clicking on fubar is the same as clicking the plugin |
| 04:34.23 | ckknight | ...no |
| 04:34.27 | ckknight | you're grossly misinformed |
| 04:34.59 | Mecdemort | i click the rock fubar icon, and it brings up rock config. I right click the fubar bar and it brings up the rock config |
| 04:35.11 | Paene | I've been raiding since shortly before BWL was released |
| 04:35.12 | ckknight | I'm gonna go back to doing whatever it was I was doing |
| 04:35.33 | Mecdemort | if im misinformed please inform me |
| 04:36.39 | Arcaia | NPCs are down on our server |
| 04:36.41 | Arcaia | WTG Bliz |
| 04:36.45 | Arcaia | BREAK EVERYTHING |
| 04:37.14 | Arcaia | ckknight: it's your fault! |
| 04:38.02 | Mecdemort | or ignore me, thats cool too |
| 04:38.02 | Paene | is there an easy way to see which addons use Rock and which use Ace2? |
| 04:38.12 | Mecdemort | Paene: check the /libs folder |
| 04:38.26 | Paene | too many addons to do that lol |
| 04:38.59 | xyu | wow these caveman adds on Wowhead are driving me insane |
| 04:39.06 | xyu | all 3 of them are going off at the same time |
| 04:39.09 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50583 10KillingSpree/ (6 files): |
| 04:39.09 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: initial commit |
| 04:39.09 | CIA-12 | - Consecutive kill announcer |
| 04:40.11 | Kameril | xyu: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ http://adblockplus.org/en/ |
| 04:41.49 | ckknight | Paene: why does it matter? |
| 04:42.11 | Paene | just curious |
| 04:42.22 | Paene | interested to see how many are switching and such |
| 04:42.40 | Paene | I already said I think Rock is a good idea :-p so don't go getting defensive ;) |
| 04:43.30 | ckknight | alright |
| 04:43.39 | ckknight | not many just yet |
| 04:43.56 | Paene | it'll pick up |
| 04:44.28 | Paene | Any chance of any tutorials coming soon? Or is it not fully finished? |
| 04:44.48 | ckknight | I'll probably make some tutorials |
| 04:45.17 | Paene | cool, I'm too new to Lua to figure everything out on my own :) |
| 04:46.28 | Wobwork | It's a good idea to read up on some of the simpler addons |
| 04:46.54 | Wobwork | then once you have a better understanding of lua, or a general understanding of programming languages, to read PiL |
| 04:47.20 | Paene | PiL? |
| 04:47.24 | Paene | I know C++ and Java |
| 04:48.10 | Paene | I'm able to pick up on a lot of it...just some of the syntax I'm not used to |
| 04:48.21 | Wobwork | Programming In Lua |
| 04:48.25 | Wobwork | it's a free book =) |
| 04:48.31 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r50584 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 04:48.32 | Wobwork | http://www.lua.org/pil |
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| 04:48.37 | Seerah | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 04:48.40 | Seerah | darnit! |
| 04:48.47 | Wobwork | well, you had the trailing slash |
| 04:48.53 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:49.11 | Seerah | it was a copy-paste from bookmarks :( |
| 04:49.26 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 04:49.37 | Wobwork | 'lo cnc |
| 04:49.59 | Seerah | hola cnc |
| 04:50.46 | Arcaia | hey ckknight, if i gave you sexy time, would you make me two addons that are simplez? |
| 04:51.03 | ckknight | but I have other things to do... |
| 04:51.18 | Arcaia | they are simple addons ! >_> |
| 04:51.24 | ckknight | ... |
| 04:51.29 | Arcaia | atleast hear me out |
| 04:51.44 | Arcaia | they dont have to have any graphics ;P |
| 04:51.46 | Seerah | but it's sexy time! |
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| 04:52.42 | cncfanatics | Arcaia, can't u make them urself ? :o |
| 04:52.47 | Arcaia | A> Addon that shows me the health of everything Hostile that is targetting me in simple %hp box, no special layout just like 47.3% 49.2% 53.9% in a box that has wordwrap types ;P |
| 04:53.10 | aestil | you can probably do that with dogtag |
| 04:53.16 | Vevenya | Would someone be able to help me with a quick grid question? |
| 04:53.16 | Arcaia | B> cooldown addon that only has spell abbreviation [in a language file that I can edit, so you dont have to code them all in] that does similar |
| 04:53.17 | aestil | or if if not, it can be added iprolly |
| 04:54.11 | Arcaia | just Ev: 1:23, Spr: 2:20, BlFl: 0:45, Adren: 0:02 - etc. |
| 04:54.38 | Arcaia | if i knew the first bit about lua or wow type lua... id do it ;P |
| 04:54.55 | Arcaia | hell id pay someone to do it if it worked good enough ;P |
| 04:55.19 | ckknight | (A) is basically impossible without partytarget hax |
| 04:55.38 | ckknight | (B) Parrot has cooldowns that can be abbreviated |
| 04:55.42 | Arcaia | and B is too simple for you to waste your time on [;P] |
| 04:55.50 | cncfanatics | B is already in parrot |
| 04:55.55 | cncfanatics | just strip off the first letter out of every word |
| 04:55.56 | cncfanatics | easy |
| 04:56.12 | Arcaia | parrot has a text box that i can move that is just that a box? |
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| 04:56.31 | Seerah | curious- what would be the purpose of Addon B? |
| 04:56.41 | Seerah | I think that's missing from your request |
| 04:57.03 | Arcaia | a non-bar cooldown tracker that is lightweight and not graphic/space intensive |
| 04:57.33 | Seerah | OmniCC? ;) I kid |
| 04:57.38 | cncfanatics | u could probably modify chronometer |
| 04:57.43 | cncfanatics | to use abreviations |
| 04:57.48 | cncfanatics | just track where it sets its text |
| 04:57.55 | cncfanatics | and if its a spell, abreviate it |
| 04:57.56 | Arcaia | and not have bars? |
| 04:58.14 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50585 10KillingSpree/: |
| 04:58.14 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 04:58.14 | CIA-12 | - Added externals |
| 05:01.22 | aestil | man, people are stupid! |
| 05:01.42 | Seerah | ?? |
| 05:02.02 | Arcaia | ? |
| 05:02.25 | aestil | can't run away on geddon 2.0 |
| 05:02.44 | Gngsk | :X |
| 05:04.25 | aestil | is funky in channel? |
| 05:04.41 | Vevenya | Anyone able to help with a quick Grid question? |
| 05:04.43 | Gngsk | no, but punkie is |
| 05:05.11 | aestil | punkie is BW developer? |
| 05:05.16 | Gngsk | nope |
| 05:05.19 | Gngsk | but it rhymes |
| 05:05.32 | aestil | uh, ok. |
| 05:05.38 | aestil | vevenya, just ask your question |
| 05:05.46 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50586 10KillingSpree_Taunts/ (24 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:05.46 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_Taunts: initial commit |
| 05:05.46 | CIA-12 | - Consecutive kill announcer sound pack |
| 05:05.59 | aestil | whats the purl thing for don't ask to ask? |
| 05:06.03 | aestil | ~ask to as |
| 05:06.13 | aestil | ~ask to ask |
| 05:06.14 | purl | Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! Omit any irrelevant details. If nobody answers then we don't know or are busy for a few minutes. Wait and don't bug us. If you must ask again wait until new people have joined the channel. |
| 05:07.40 | aestil | is solarian like aran? no aggro table? |
| 05:07.56 | CIA-12 | 03kuja * r50587 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/ (. addon.lua): Cartographer_Mailboxes: added deDE, added tsvn:logtemplate |
| 05:08.25 | Vevenya | My issue is, I get disconnected on occasion. When I get disconnected in combat,and relog, grid will only show my grp, not the rest of the raid. Is this an issue with the new wow patches? |
| 05:09.30 | Vevenya | Also, holy hope is borked, but that's minor. :) |
| 05:09.37 | Paene | hm...what's "The IT Crowd" joke...I think it's..."Have you tried turning your computer off and then back on again?" |
| 05:10.04 | Vevenya | You mean, I should delete my interface and wtf directories? ;-) |
| 05:10.07 | Paene | sounds like a bug Vev, try reporting it via the bugtracker on wowace |
| 05:10.11 | Paene | lol |
| 05:10.19 | Paene | don't forget the Cache folder too! |
| 05:10.28 | Paene | if that doesn't work, reinstall WoW |
| 05:10.32 | Vevenya | omg, I forgot about that. haha |
| 05:10.38 | Paene | and if that doesn't work, ebay |
| 05:10.43 | Paene | :-p |
| 05:10.57 | Vevenya | hmm. what's a 70 pally going for nowadays? :P |
| 05:11.02 | Paene | lol |
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| 05:11.30 | Vevenya | It's definitely related to logging back in when in combat though. |
| 05:11.59 | Vevenya | Bugtracker is... trac link? |
| 05:12.28 | Vevenya | nope, that's 404 |
| 05:12.33 | Paene | Jira I think |
| 05:12.36 | Paene | is the new bugtracker |
| 05:12.38 | Paene | I could be wrong |
| 05:12.40 | Paene | one sec |
| 05:13.45 | Vevenya | No reference to jira on main page, could it be hidden somewhere? |
| 05:13.58 | aestil | ~jira |
| 05:13.58 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, jira is jira.wowace.com |
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| 05:14.07 | aestil | *boggle* |
| 05:14.14 | Arcaia | Urmom. |
| 05:14.15 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50588 10KillingSpree/: |
| 05:14.15 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 05:14.15 | CIA-12 | - Fixed externals |
| 05:14.24 | Paene | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid |
| 05:14.38 | Paene | there's specific instrcutions the developer has for reporting bugs |
| 05:14.39 | Paene | follow those :) |
| 05:14.42 | Vevenya | Having a reference to it on the main page might help the noobs like me. :) |
| 05:15.07 | Paene | the links are dead, but just use Jira instead |
| 05:15.12 | Paene | the linsk refer to Trac |
| 05:15.15 | Paene | *links |
| 05:15.24 | Vevenya | yeah, was gonna say that link is borked. |
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| 05:16.22 | Paene | but be sure to check to see if it's been reported first |
| 05:16.29 | Paene | and then use the format the developer wants |
| 05:16.36 | Paene | otherwise it'll prob get deleted or ignored |
| 05:17.10 | Vevenya | I'll take a peek, thanks. :) |
| 05:18.02 | Arcaia | how does one add a cycircled skinset to the wau thinger >.> |
| 05:21.50 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50589 10KillingSpree_Taunts/: |
| 05:21.50 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_Taunts: |
| 05:21.50 | CIA-12 | - Initial commit |
| 05:23.33 | Wobwork | Paene: I saw the first episode of that |
| 05:23.38 | Wobwork | The IT crowd |
| 05:23.51 | Wobwork | Luckily it was in a room full of internet geeks |
| 05:24.04 | Wobwork | so my laughter wasn't out of place with regards to the subtitles |
| 05:25.00 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50590 10KillingSpree_UT2k3/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:25.00 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k3: initial commit |
| 05:25.00 | CIA-12 | - Consecutive kill announcer sound pack |
| 05:25.42 | CIA-12 | 03kuja * r50591 10PT3Browser/ (PT3Browser-deDE.lua PT3Browser.toc): |
| 05:25.42 | CIA-12 | PT3Browser: |
| 05:25.42 | CIA-12 | - added deDE |
| 05:26.26 | Kuja^ | cia is fast.... a suprise! |
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| 05:27.41 | Chexsum | hi |
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| 05:28.53 | Wobwork | oh hey a queenslander =P |
| 05:30.06 | Chexsum | its the only place to ive |
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| 05:31.59 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50592 10KillingSpree_UT2k3/: |
| 05:31.59 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k3: |
| 05:31.59 | CIA-12 | - Initial commit |
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| 05:35.39 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50593 10KillingSpree_UT2k4/ (18 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:35.39 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4: initial commit |
| 05:35.39 | CIA-12 | - Consecutive kill announcer sound pack |
| 05:37.47 | higginja | svn question. once I modify my working copy source is there away to get the local changes piped the commit command as the changes entry? I'm asking because I can't seem to get any of my local changes to to be seen. |
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| 05:38.55 | higginja | I modify the local source but the revision doesnt seem to change... any ideas? |
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| 05:40.49 | Paene | gnite all |
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| 05:41.41 | kebinusan | higginja: modify it locally and then just svn commit -m "TacoMod: Added sour cream and tomatoes" TacoMod |
| 05:41.46 | kebinusan | or similar syntax |
| 05:41.49 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50594 10KillingSpree_UT2k4/: |
| 05:41.49 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4: |
| 05:41.49 | CIA-12 | - Initial commit |
| 05:41.51 | kebinusan | is that what you mean |
| 05:43.06 | higginja | hmmm, i was thinking some thing like svn log | svn commit -m $0 |
| 05:43.47 | higginja | maybe im missing something about svn but is svn log accessing the working copy or the repository? |
| 05:45.24 | kebinusan | Ive never done anything like that, always just checked out from dev, made a change and commited it back |
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| 05:45.44 | kebinusan | maybe try #svn tho or something |
| 05:45.51 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50595 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/ (18 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:45.51 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4Female: initial commit |
| 05:45.51 | CIA-12 | - Consecutive kill announcer sound pack |
| 05:45.53 | higginja | ok, thanks |
| 05:45.55 | kebinusan | since its more of a syntax question |
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| 05:50.03 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50596 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/: |
| 05:50.03 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4Female: |
| 05:50.03 | CIA-12 | - Initial commit |
| 05:52.39 | orionshock | morning all |
| 05:52.52 | yssaril | mornin orionshock |
| 05:54.03 | tragicdog | morning |
| 05:55.38 | tragicdog | anyone know if there is a WAU for linux? |
| 05:55.50 | tragicdog | specifically ubuntu/kubuntu |
| 05:55.55 | Antiarc | ~wau2 |
| 05:55.56 | purl | from memory, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 05:56.06 | tragicdog | ok, cool |
| 05:56.41 | tragicdog | second question, anyone know a place to download the game except through the blizzard downloader? |
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| 05:59.16 | pakoz | yo, anyone here complete all of the 40mans and all of BC? I'm trying to get input on which was harder, BC or pre-BC. |
| 06:02.17 | yssaril | there are no 40mans in BC :P |
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| 06:05.34 | pakoz | sorry if i worded it funny |
| 06:05.53 | pakoz | but in short, which was harder BC or classic |
| 06:05.59 | pakoz | comparing end content from each |
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| 06:06.11 | yssaril | hehe i havent been to every place but i would say in 40mans you could get away with more morepeople to make up for your slacking |
| 06:06.27 | tragicdog | agreed |
| 06:06.35 | yssaril | BC is more about everyone needing to do their thing |
| 06:06.40 | Chaoslux | Is there a Ace-equivalent of ATSW ? |
| 06:08.26 | Azure | vhaarr: hey, you there? |
| 06:09.33 | Azurewrath | or well, is anyone around who uses NRT? |
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| 06:10.17 | Fisker-- | hyperChipmunk i'm coming for you |
| 06:11.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I use NRT |
| 06:11.15 | Fisker-- | i won't let you survive hyperChipmunk |
| 06:11.58 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r50597 10NiHao/ (NiHao.lua NiHao.toc): |
| 06:11.58 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 06:11.58 | CIA-12 | - Fixed pesky stacked item error |
| 06:11.58 | CIA-12 | - Fixed various errors when looting custom priced items |
| 06:11.58 | CIA-12 | - Added informative tooltip |
| 06:11.59 | CIA-12 | - Streamlined function for looted items per session storage |
| 06:12.01 | CIA-12 | - More intuitive GSC displays |
| 06:12.14 | Azurewrath | ZealotOnAStick: what is it like, is it a full CT Raidtracker replacement? I was not able to test it in a raid yet, but it seems that the menu has like zero options? |
| 06:12.47 | ZealotOnAStick | it's not a full replacement, no. The idea is to have it do the really important things without all the excess crap. |
| 06:13.12 | ZealotOnAStick | it doesn't have zero options, just pretty few. |
| 06:13.45 | Kameril | pakoz: i have |
| 06:15.20 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50598 10KillingSpree/libs/: |
| 06:15.20 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 06:15.20 | CIA-12 | - Added externals folder |
| 06:15.36 | orionshock | now lets see if i understand this LibRockConfig ... |
| 06:15.52 | Azurewrath | ZealotOnAStick: mhm.. is it able to track who loots item x from boss y, set a dkp value for that item, set a dkp value for the boss kill for all the people in the raid, and export that to EQDKP? |
| 06:17.28 | Grum | orionshock: you can use AceConfig on it if you want ;D |
| 06:17.59 | orionshock | lol i don't understand that even more than rockConfig |
| 06:18.18 | orionshock | i just wish it fking gave errors... |
| 06:18.20 | orionshock | >.> |
| 06:18.23 | Grum | it does |
| 06:18.27 | orionshock | it dosn't |
| 06:18.27 | Grum | ;D |
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| 06:19.48 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 06:19.48 | CIA-12 | - Fixed externals typo |
| 06:20.20 | LetheKai|Away | Does anyone here use any non-Ace Warlock mods? |
| 06:21.35 | Chaoslux | Is there any Ace-Equivalent of ATSW? |
| 06:21.57 | Grum | what is ATSW? |
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| 06:22.24 | tragicdog | advabced tradeskill window |
| 06:22.26 | orionshock | Chaoslux: not really |
| 06:22.34 | Grum | oh beh i hated that |
| 06:22.40 | Wobwork | RevEng does enough for me =) |
| 06:24.18 | orionshock | urg.... |
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| 06:27.25 | Azurewrath | ZealotOnAStick: *bling bling* ;p |
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| 06:28.19 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50600 10KillingSpree/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-12 | - Fixed externals |
| 06:28.52 | orionshock | ckknight: ping |
| 06:28.55 | Chexsum | I should have used the sandbox ;) |
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| 06:29.41 | ckknight | orionshock: pong |
| 06:29.49 | CIA-12 | 03nayala * r50601 10Baggins_ClosetGnome/Baggins_ClosetGnome.lua: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Attempted work around initialization conflicts when multiple pluggins used |
| 06:29.51 | Fisker-- | pang |
| 06:29.52 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74731 |
| 06:29.52 | CIA-12 | 03nayala * r50602 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.lua: Baggins_ItemRack: Attempted work around initialization conflicts when multiple pluggins used |
| 06:29.56 | CIA-12 | 03nayala * r50603 10Baggins_Professions/Baggins_Professions.lua: Baggins_Professions: Attempted work around initialization conflicts when multiple pluggins used |
| 06:29.58 | orionshock | doing something wrong here i know it.. |
| 06:29.59 | CIA-12 | 03nayala * r50604 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.lua: Baggins_Usable: Attempted work around initialization conflicts when multiple pluggins used |
| 06:30.16 | orionshock | just can't figure out what.... |
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| 06:30.45 | Fisker-- | no u orionshock |
| 06:31.12 | orionshock | Fisker-? |
| 06:32.37 | Fisker-- | :( |
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| 06:40.58 | Grum | first of all orionshock, keys in a table are case sensitive |
| 06:41.14 | Grum | so: 'Escort' ~= 'escort' |
| 06:41.21 | orionshock | me think's that that is not the issue.... |
| 06:41.27 | orionshock | but it prolly is |
| 06:42.14 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50605 10TweakHub_Merchant/ (4 files): |
| 06:42.14 | CIA-12 | TweakHub_Merchant: |
| 06:42.14 | CIA-12 | - Added mouse wheel scrolling and updated toc to 20200 |
| 06:42.30 | Grum | so what's actually going wrong? |
| 06:42.39 | Grum | i can tell you the first time you will not have a default set |
| 06:42.50 | orionshock | ... i don't know what the pass value is from the choice table |
| 06:43.03 | orionshock | that would make things alot better for me ... |
| 06:43.10 | Grum | normally the key |
| 06:43.22 | Grum | so in your case 1/2/3 |
| 06:43.51 | Grum | but just put a debug message in the setter |
| 06:44.08 | Grum | 'setting to '..v orso |
| 06:44.14 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50606 10TweakHub_Merchant/Options.lua: |
| 06:44.14 | CIA-12 | TweakHub_Merchant: |
| 06:44.14 | CIA-12 | - Added mouse wheel scrolling and updated toc to 20200 |
| 06:44.16 | Grum | oh lol |
| 06:44.18 | orionshock | such a complicated thing for such a simple thing... |
| 06:44.32 | Grum | the capitalization is causing the error |
| 06:44.39 | orionshock | prolly |
| 06:44.39 | Grum | you return .escort |
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| 06:44.46 | Grum | but never set it .. because you always set .Escort :) |
| 06:44.59 | Grum | so whatever you select, it will insta-forget it |
| 06:45.08 | Grum | (or make it seem like it does) |
| 06:45.41 | orionshock | you got a point there... |
| 06:45.44 | Grum | i've recently had my share of 'choice' options ^^ |
| 06:46.37 | orionshock | fking escort quest, it's the only one that has a quest choice... the rest is just gold |
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| 06:47.11 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r50607 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 06:47.11 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 06:47.11 | CIA-12 | - zhCN &zhTW Updated |
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| 06:48.18 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50608 10KillingSpree/KillingSpree.toc: |
| 06:48.18 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 06:48.18 | CIA-12 | - Updated X-Embeds |
| 06:51.29 | orionshock | .. uh... |
| 06:52.03 | orionshock | ckknight: so what's the variable that RockConfig passes for set option? |
| 06:52.18 | Grum | orionshock: print it? |
| 06:52.19 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:52.26 | orionshock | one second - i think i found it |
| 06:52.37 | Grum | it depends if you use a dict or list |
| 06:52.43 | Grum | i think O.o |
| 06:52.53 | orionshock | ya that iwas it |
| 06:52.56 | orionshock | ... >.> |
| 06:53.00 | Grum | makes sense |
| 06:53.18 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.24 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:53.33 | ckknight | I saw that right away... |
| 06:53.37 | orionshock | have to pass the function the variable doah |
| 06:53.39 | ckknight | granted, I only looked just now |
| 06:53.46 | Grum | that is what you pasted orionshock: function DailyFu:SetEscortOption(v) |
| 06:53.52 | Grum | so you had it .. but not in your real code? :D |
| 06:53.57 | Grum | oohoh |
| 06:53.57 | Grum | duuh |
| 06:54.08 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.09 | Grum | nub ;D |
| 06:54.54 | ckknight | also, orionshock, why do you do get = function() return DailyFu:GetEscortOption() end instead of get = "GetEscortOption"? |
| 06:55.15 | orionshock | don't know yet.. |
| 06:55.31 | orionshock | old habbits ? |
| 06:55.38 | Grum | for some reason i like inlining those functions hehe |
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| 06:58.38 | orionshock | now the next question is does the numbering for GetQuestReward(v) start at 0 or 1 ... |
| 06:58.41 | orionshock | me think's 0 |
| 07:01.09 | Stanzilla2 | oh noes |
| 07:03.01 | Grum | orionshock: it never starts at 0 unless you specify that in your option table |
| 07:03.05 | Grum | but you did 1,2,3 there |
| 07:03.10 | Grum | so you will get 1,2,3 in the options as well |
| 07:03.14 | Grum | erm in the setter |
| 07:03.25 | Grum | and the getter will just see which of the options was set |
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| 07:04.12 | Grum | not 100% how a 'choice' type works but choice-multi has a k+v given to set and a k given to get |
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| 07:06.20 | orionshock | now to test the 2 working togeahter.... |
| 07:06.43 | Mecdemort | anyone on that knows a bit about keybindings |
| 07:06.56 | orionshock | and they do... |
| 07:07.08 | orionshock | now to clean out dialys more than a day old |
| 07:09.29 | orionshock | >.> xloot is sorta fooked atm :( |
| 07:09.44 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: yes |
| 07:10.52 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: ah, great.. guess i'll just redirect my question to you then ;) |
| 07:11.12 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: is NRT able to track who loots item x from boss y, set a dkp value for that item, set a dkp value for the boss kill for all the people in the raid, and export that to EQDKP? |
| 07:11.27 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: as opposed to who? |
| 07:11.35 | Azurewrath | or in other words.. able to replace CTRT in most situations? |
| 07:11.54 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: if you write your own exporter, sure |
| 07:11.59 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: i asked ZealotOnAStick earlier because he stated he uses NRT, but he seems to be afk.. never mind :) |
| 07:12.26 | Arrowmaster | eqdkp can do everything that nrt doesnt |
| 07:12.37 | Azurewrath | mhm.. so it does not create ingame text/code to copy? |
| 07:12.42 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 07:13.01 | Arrowmaster | but it doesnt assign dkp values to items afaik |
| 07:13.52 | Azurewrath | mhm.. that would mean manual editing in eqdkp again.. |
| 07:14.21 | Azurewrath | i guess i'll just try it out tonight |
| 07:14.40 | Arrowmaster | perty sure eqdkp defaults to the previous value if a value isnt found in the import |
| 07:15.14 | Arrowmaster | and if it doesnt just change the values on the import page between where it reads the xml and actually creates the raid in the db |
| 07:15.34 | smoke_ | has anyone figured out why pitbull doesnt fade the friendly units/party frames w/ the range checker? |
| 07:15.50 | Azurewrath | sure.. but that would mean pen&paper to write down who paid how much for what :) |
| 07:16.13 | Arrowmaster | you can have the ctrt importer for eqdkp do the zero summing of the item price and number of people |
| 07:16.34 | Arrowmaster | oh you use one of those screwy dkp systems where prices changes all the time? |
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| 07:17.23 | Azurewrath | we use an auction system, everyone interested can bid as much as he/she wants, as long as he/she has enough points |
| 07:17.42 | naig | hello, i've one question about file names in files.wowace.com - if the subversion revision number has "decimals" in it, is it just a repack? |
| 07:17.50 | Azurewrath | and peope get points for things like boss kills, boss trys, more at first kills etc. |
| 07:17.57 | naig | so consider r50212.5.zip as revision 50212? |
| 07:18.17 | Nargiddley | with 5 changes to libraries embedded |
| 07:18.31 | Azurewrath | Wobwork: bidding without pants is no problem ;p |
| 07:18.33 | naig | ok |
| 07:18.40 | Arrowmaster | naig: r50212.5 is just r50212 with updated libraries embeded in it |
| 07:18.53 | naig | in the latest.xml it's still revision r50212 i think |
| 07:19.08 | naig | just wondering how to handle this with my automatic updater |
| 07:19.20 | naig | (wrote my own for mac as macaceupdater did not work for me) |
| 07:20.08 | naig | so embedded libraries might stay out of date now, it's comparing only the revision numbers |
| 07:20.17 | naig | guess i have to live with that |
| 07:20.46 | Arrowmaster | latest.xml has the subrevisions |
| 07:20.59 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_100207_031827.jpg |
| 07:21.07 | naig | does it? |
| 07:21.12 | Arcaia | tada, updated/redone |
| 07:21.39 | Arrowmaster | naig: check http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml right now and find the entry for Gladiator near the top |
| 07:21.49 | Arrowmaster | <wowaddon:version>47302.64</wowaddon:version> |
| 07:21.50 | naig | oh, you're right, did just that |
| 07:21.53 | naig | yep |
| 07:22.11 | naig | does the changelog has them too? |
| 07:22.14 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50609 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 07:22.14 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 07:22.14 | CIA-12 | - Hyjal trash reduced from 2 to 1 loot table |
| 07:22.26 | naig | (that's the way i identify locally installed addons) |
| 07:22.29 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50610 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:22.29 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:22.29 | CIA-12 | - Hyjal trash reduced from 2 to 1 loot table |
| 07:22.33 | naig | changelog file name, that is |
| 07:22.51 | Azurewrath | oh loot table.. |
| 07:22.58 | Arrowmaster | dont think the changelog does |
| 07:23.08 | Azurewrath | ckknight: is there any reason why there is no BT Map/Loot in Cartographer? :) |
| 07:23.24 | naig | well then i'm stuck with base revision number |
| 07:23.34 | Arrowmaster | save it another way |
| 07:23.55 | naig | seems that i have to |
| 07:24.24 | ckknight | Azurewrath: I haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 07:24.43 | Azurewrath | ah ok, nevermind then |
| 07:24.56 | naig | anyone wanting to do mac user interface for my python updater btw?-) |
| 07:25.03 | naig | and why not windows as well |
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| 07:28.44 | Mecdemort | Is there any way to find out when one of your addons' keybinding's has been overridden? |
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| 07:30.58 | naig | but it is bit frustrating that i have no way locally find out the *real* (lib updates including) version of installed addon |
| 07:31.04 | naig | if i now understood correctly |
| 07:32.48 | ramoz | Azurewrath: there is now, two bosses added (akama and najentus) |
| 07:33.36 | Azurewrath | ramoz: oh, ok :) |
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| 07:35.20 | Antiarc | Is there a mod yet to auto-report people in AV? |
| 07:35.38 | Antiarc | Basically, I want to see who has 0 damage/0 healing and auto report them |
| 07:36.48 | orionshock | Antiarc: Fubar_ReportAFI |
| 07:36.50 | orionshock | Antiarc: Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 07:36.52 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 07:36.52 | orionshock | it's on the SVN |
| 07:36.56 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r50611 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua modules/coords.lua modules/pings.lua): |
| 07:36.56 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 07:36.56 | CIA-12 | - deDE update |
| 07:38.00 | orionshock | granted there is no auto magic to it , but there is a button for it :D |
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| 07:41.34 | cladhaire | meh, i hate how everything is a fubar button |
| 07:44.24 | orionshock | well.. it's slightly the best way to do some things... |
| 07:44.39 | rophy | wait for my FBP2SlideBar? |
| 07:45.01 | rophy | i'm releasing it in a day or two |
| 07:46.33 | orionshock | god this "Banish more Demons" quest is so buged |
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| 07:48.40 | ramoz | it is? |
| 07:48.53 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50612 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull: fix typo, AceEvent-1.0 -> AceEvent-2.0 |
| 07:50.08 | LetheKai|Away | Yargh, going crazy trying to find it - Can anyone give me a tip on where to find the colour options for the highlight you get when you mouseover/select yourself or your groupmates? I could have sworn I changed it before, but can't find it now. |
| 07:50.38 | LetheKai|Away | Err... for Pitbull. |
| 07:50.39 | LetheKai|Away | Sorry. |
| 07:51.25 | CIA-12 | 03auditjj * r50613 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 07:51.25 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 07:51.25 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW translation |
| 07:51.28 | ramoz | like, color their unitframe? |
| 07:51.48 | LetheKai|Away | There's a glow that goes over the unitframe, yes, when you mouse over them or select them. |
| 07:52.01 | ramoz | its a own module |
| 07:52.11 | ramoz | not sure if you can change the color tho |
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| 07:52.29 | ramoz | PitBull_Highlight |
| 07:54.33 | Mecdemort | anyone know of an addon which makes use of the SecurePieButton |
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| 07:55.38 | ckknight | Mecdemort: it's horribly complex to work with |
| 07:55.54 | Mecdemort | ya looks that way, but sounds fun |
| 07:56.06 | LetheKai|Away | Sorry, was AFK a min. I'm pretty sure I have the module or whatever, and made it gold on my red/gold Paladin UI... need to change it for my Warlock, but with the new Rock GUI thing I can't find the option. |
| 07:56.16 | Trell_ | Ackis needs to get his!her gui fixed for RecipeList asap |
| 07:56.29 | Trell_ | <3 the addon, hate checking my general tab :¿ |
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| 07:58.03 | Jaxon | Why would I just get 150 "Mail System Error - Returned Mail" messages to address that don't exist on my domain. What the hell is doing on. |
| 07:58.17 | Arcaia | ignore it |
| 07:58.24 | Arcaia | generally comes from people sending fake headers |
| 07:58.27 | LetheKai|Away | Ckknight: Is there a way to change the Pitbull_Highlight colour in the new GUI? Going cross-eyed trying to find it. >.< |
| 07:58.40 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50614 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 07:58.40 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:58.40 | CIA-12 | - Arena season 3 prep |
| 07:58.42 | ckknight | no, I never put in that option |
| 07:58.48 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50615 10Grid/GridStatusHealth.lua: Grid: GridStatusHealth, Register UNIT_MAXHEALTH as well. |
| 07:58.55 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50616 10AtlasLoot/Core/TextParsing.lua: |
| 07:58.55 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:58.55 | CIA-12 | - Arena season 3 prep |
| 07:59.08 | LetheKai|Away | Phew, alright, at least I know now. -_- |
| 07:59.51 | Arrowmaster | and people still having their mail servers setup to send error emails in reply to emails addressed to locations that dont exist instead of just sending an error code when its trying to be delivered to the server or just droping it |
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| 08:03.47 | Stanzilla2 | crysis = slow as shit |
| 08:04.05 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50617 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 08:04.05 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:04.05 | CIA-12 | -Fixed bug for displaying recipes. Only affected alchemy because stoneshield potions were entered into the database twice. Yay for wasting hours of debugging time to find that. |
| 08:07.00 | Mecdemort | is there a keybinding attribute for buttons? |
| 08:08.04 | Ackis | i'm so happy tehehehe |
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| 08:13.03 | Mecdemort | hmm 36299 global variables :x |
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| 08:14.55 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50618 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:14.55 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:14.55 | CIA-12 | - German update |
| 08:14.56 | CIA-12 | - Hyjal bugfix |
| 08:18.57 | Ackis | wow i'll be damned, i think my gui is almost done |
| 08:20.46 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r50619 10Grid/TrackThePets/core.lua: Grid: (branch) TrackThePets, check that the pet exists before reporting an error. |
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| 08:25.20 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50620 10KillingSpree_UT2k3/: |
| 08:25.20 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k3: |
| 08:25.20 | CIA-12 | - Merged with KillingSpree |
| 08:26.15 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50621 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 08:26.15 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:26.15 | CIA-12 | - When recipe is expanded it will display how to obtain the recipe below it |
| 08:26.15 | CIA-12 | - Try /arl guiscan to see the UI |
| 08:28.24 | winkiller | Antiarc: ping |
| 08:28.55 | Trell_ | oooo |
| 08:28.59 | Trell_ | <3 ackis |
| 08:29.02 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50622 10KillingSpree/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:29.02 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 08:29.02 | CIA-12 | - Readded UT2k3 sound scheme |
| 08:29.22 | Trell_ | now i need to wait for the WAU to update :( |
| 08:29.48 | Punkie` | 12 minutes from now isn't long |
| 08:30.04 | Trell_ | it's like a lifetime0 |
| 08:30.14 | [Ammo] | I found most of the problems with Cartographers instancemaps stem from a few instances |
| 08:30.34 | Punkie` | oh [Ammo] |
| 08:30.36 | [Ammo] | clicking any of the following will break the module: Blood Forunace, Shattered Halls, Arcatraz, Shadow Labs, SSC, Slave Pens, Underbog |
| 08:31.01 | [Ammo] | if someone can explain to me how to operate the dataminer for it I might be able to fix it |
| 08:31.59 | Punkie` | any reason it's those instances? |
| 08:32.32 | [Ammo] | those are the ones that consistently break it |
| 08:32.42 | [Ammo] | click any of those and you're fucked |
| 08:32.57 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50623 10KillingSpree_Taunts/Taunts.lua: |
| 08:32.57 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_Taunts: |
| 08:32.57 | CIA-12 | - Added directory to sound scheme array |
| 08:33.05 | [Ammo] | ckknight: how do I run that miner? |
| 08:33.12 | [Ammo] | and get those maps working again |
| 08:33.14 | ckknight | I'm actually working on that myself |
| 08:33.23 | ckknight | currently watching Weeds, though |
| 08:33.30 | [Ammo] | all the kalimdor and eastern kingdoms work |
| 08:33.36 | [Ammo] | just that list I put up doesn't |
| 08:33.58 | ckknight | yea, cause the patch changed the way Outland instances work, so the miner needs to be run again, basically |
| 08:34.12 | [Ammo] | how does that work? any help text on that? |
| 08:34.40 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50624 10KillingSpree_UT2k4/UT2k4.lua: |
| 08:34.40 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4: |
| 08:34.41 | CIA-12 | - Added directory to sound scheme array |
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| 08:35.53 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50625 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/UT2k4Female.lua: |
| 08:35.53 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree_UT2k4Female: |
| 08:35.53 | CIA-12 | - Added directory to sound scheme array |
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| 08:37.25 | [Ammo] | ckknight: when you do run the miner, don't forget Black Temple and Zul'Aman in the script |
| 08:37.31 | Kazie | What addon is that killingspree stuff? |
| 08:38.07 | [Ammo] | oh ZUl'Aman is in there |
| 08:38.09 | [Ammo] | BT problably isn't |
| 08:38.28 | Chexsum | a ut2k announcement mod - i just added it to the ace site today |
| 08:40.26 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50626 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: add "Shade of Akama" in esES, thanks Korin |
| 08:40.28 | Arcaia | anyone know where i can find re-runs of house? |
| 08:40.33 | Arcaia | from this season? |
| 08:40.39 | Arcaia | i missed tonights episode >.> |
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| 08:41.16 | Crysli | 'llo |
| 08:41.20 | Punkie` | bittorrent, newsgroups, etc |
| 08:41.20 | Neebler | it's a RIAA member! don't fall for his trap |
| 08:42.11 | Trell_ | Priest/Rogue in 2v2 - good combination? |
| 08:42.40 | Crysli | So I'm ill today, thus taking a day off and I thought I |
| 08:42.42 | Crysli | Oops. |
| 08:42.47 | Grum | Arcaia: that is asking for warez! O.o ;D |
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| 08:42.58 | Crysli | I thought I'd remake my UI. Any suggestions for a good look for unitframes? |
| 08:43.38 | Arcaia | and no its not |
| 08:43.41 | Arcaia | its a tv show |
| 08:43.45 | Arcaia | not a program ;P |
| 08:44.02 | Arcaia | a tv show that last season put its old eps up on the web |
| 08:44.03 | buu | Crysli: Rip off vista. |
| 08:44.10 | ckknight | Arcaia: eztvefnet.org |
| 08:44.17 | Arcaia | and as for the record, im a day early, it shows on tuesday, not mondays >.< |
| 08:44.20 | Crysli | buu: Hm? |
| 08:44.38 | buu | Crysli: Seriously, make a wow interface that looks like vista. |
| 08:45.13 | CIA-12 | 03auditjj * r50627 10BigBrother/localization_zhTW.lua: |
| 08:45.13 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 08:45.13 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW translation |
| 08:45.16 | Crysli | buu: Are there screenshots on the Vista homepage? Still using old XP ;) |
| 08:45.35 | buu | Crysli: ... I'm sure there's screenshots of vista someplace. |
| 08:45.43 | Chexsum | priest/rogue is weak against pally/warrior|hunter and some dual dps but great for anything else imo |
| 08:46.08 | Grum | ckknight: ew! ;D |
| 08:46.13 | Neebler | icemage/rogue rawr! |
| 08:46.15 | Chexsum | it lame how easy warriors kill priests and rogues atm |
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| 08:46.36 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r50628 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 08:46.36 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 08:46.36 | CIA-12 | - Fixed price setting bug |
| 08:46.45 | Arcaia | ahh - heroes online. |
| 08:46.56 | Arcaia | Heroes = epic. |
| 08:47.15 | Grum | HR.HDTV? :D |
| 08:47.57 | Chexsum | <-- 495 resilience holy/disc priest and dies in about 15s against a rogue or warrior |
| 08:48.30 | buu | Chexsum: How many hp? |
| 08:48.32 | Crysli | buu: You thinking bout something like this? http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/55/Windows_Vista_Desktop.png |
| 08:48.39 | Grum | you need 10-12k orso? :) |
| 08:48.46 | buu | Crysli: I really wasn't thinking that hard. |
| 08:49.31 | Chexsum | 10k HP and 1k +heal atm - ive geared for smiting more than healing |
| 08:49.42 | Crysli | buu: Heh. Sorry, I've been trying for some time to get a nice UI, so I took it sorta seriously :P |
| 08:49.56 | Grum | Chexsum: can you actually smite and kill people? O.o |
| 08:50.43 | buu | Crysli: I'm a big fan of minimalism when it comes to uis. |
| 08:50.45 | Chexsum | yes its a good spec |
| 08:51.12 | Chexsum | ive killed chain-fearing sl/sl locks even |
| 08:51.28 | Crysli | buu: Same. Was sort of wondering how Vista would look as a minimalist UI :p |
| 08:52.02 | buu | Chexsum: How the hell does that work? |
| 08:53.02 | Kazie | Anyone who knows about that Killingspree addoN? |
| 08:53.50 | Chexsum | kazie, yeah i just uplaoded it |
| 08:54.44 | Kazie | It gives me an error when loading my interface |
| 08:54.52 | Kazie | something about an unexpected symbel |
| 08:54.55 | Kazie | symbol* |
| 08:55.18 | Kazie | xD |
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| 08:55.44 | Arcaia | http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/episodes.shtml - Heroes |
| 08:56.15 | Kazie | Chexsum: Do you know what might be the problem? |
| 08:56.41 | Krittick | Ugh. There's some addon that's trying to override my CowTip tooltip and causing my actionbar tooltips to flicker between cursor location and default Blizzard location. Any ideas what could cause that? |
| 08:56.49 | Ackis | when running a command like /foo arg1, is it easy to have that call a function with a parameter? |
| 08:57.30 | Ackis | ie: http://ace.pastey.net/74735 |
| 08:58.50 | Chexsum | yeah i think i know what it could be |
| 08:59.07 | Chexsum | bad cut/pasting - ill check |
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| 09:04.59 | vhaarr | w00t new Weeds episode |
| 09:05.07 | Antiarc | Things I love: spell reflecting mages. |
| 09:05.47 | Corgan | These are a few of my favorite thiiiings |
| 09:05.59 | Crysli | I'm eating almonds - they taste a bit like Christmas. |
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| 09:07.50 | Neebler | Things I love: raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens |
| 09:08.01 | Neebler | bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens! |
| 09:08.14 | Neebler | brown paper packages tied up wtih string |
| 09:08.19 | Neebler | these are a few of my favorite things! |
| 09:08.50 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50629 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen: Update zhTW Translation. (Thanks whocare) |
| 09:11.39 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r50630 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.lua KillingSpree.toc): |
| 09:11.39 | CIA-12 | KillingSpree: |
| 09:11.39 | CIA-12 | - Fixed drycoding mistake (missing end of if statement) |
| 09:12.28 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r50631 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceHook 3, failsafe hooks, and lost some weight |
| 09:12.31 | Chexsum | Kazie, woops - fixed now |
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| 09:14.57 | cryogen | >>> 2 == 2 & ~0x1 |
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| 09:15.11 | cryogen | mm, is that not how you poke it? |
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| 09:18.16 | cryogen | >> 1 == 1 |
| 09:18.24 | cryogen | ~fail |
| 09:18.25 | purl | ACTION gives cryogen the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 09:18.54 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 09:18.58 | Antiarc | I just spell reflected a pom pyro |
| 09:19.09 | Antiarc | Owned by the trinket animation + GCD |
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| 09:19.49 | Thelyna | heh, I ran into a mage that popped trinket+pom then started running to me |
| 09:20.06 | Thelyna | needless to say, dispel magic > bad three-minute-mage |
| 09:20.24 | winkiller | Antiarc! I missed you |
| 09:20.28 | tinyboom | fubar_autolootfu error: http://ace.pastey.net/74736 |
| 09:20.31 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50632 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceHook-3.0 - remove unused safecall function and add comment on evil magicks |
| 09:21.55 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50633 10Ace3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - Initial Commit of AceGUI-3.0 |
| 09:23.15 | Chexsum | pain suppression + reflective shield is buggy to make it reflect more than it should |
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| 09:27.07 | Punkie` | so, there a skinner module for AceGUI-3.0 yet? |
| 09:27.17 | Stanzilla2 | lol |
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| 09:32.39 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50634 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-12 | AceGUI-3.0: |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-12 | - Fix upgrade path |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-12 | - Add local upvalues |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-12 | - correct styling |
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| 09:39.04 | TE|Kulaar | hi. How do i hide an EEpanel(2) if i have no target? |
| 09:39.40 | Punkie` | you read the wiki? |
| 09:40.06 | TE|Kulaar | i read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels_Scripts |
| 09:40.16 | Punkie` | is it not in there? |
| 09:40.17 | Punkie` | ~logs |
| 09:40.18 | purl | [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 09:40.21 | TE|Kulaar | didnt find it |
| 09:40.46 | Punkie` | i don't know then, sorry |
| 09:41.06 | TE|Kulaar | ok |
| 09:41.08 | Fisker-- | Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` Punkie` |
| 09:41.09 | Fisker-- | hi |
| 09:41.13 | TE|Kulaar | cO |
| 09:42.00 | Punkie` | sup Fisker-- |
| 09:43.17 | TE|Kulaar | the only script i find there is "Change color based on target's class" |
| 09:43.42 | Fisker-- | no u Punkie` |
| 09:45.50 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50635 10Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/ (. AceGUITest.toc test.lua): Ace3 - Add AceGUITest |
| 09:49.11 | TE|Kulaar | perhaps someone else can help me here |
| 09:49.15 | TE|Kulaar | i tried this: |
| 09:49.26 | Corgan | http://wow.pastey.net/74737 ? |
| 09:49.27 | TE|Kulaar | function eePanels2:TargetFrameVisibility(self, event, ...) local _, class = UnitClass("target"); if class == "nil" then eePanel2:Hide(); else eePanel2:Show(); end end |
| 09:49.57 | Punkie` | what about unitexists? |
| 09:49.59 | Chexsum | something like if not UnitExists("target") then ... |
| 09:49.59 | TE|Kulaar | ahh nice :) |
| 09:50.20 | Nargiddley | and if checking for nil, don't put it in "" |
| 09:50.23 | TE|Kulaar | i have no idea of lua coding at oll |
| 09:50.25 | TE|Kulaar | so.... |
| 09:50.32 | TE|Kulaar | o = a |
| 09:50.35 | Corgan | TE|Kulaar, me neither |
| 09:50.45 | TE|Kulaar | :) |
| 09:50.58 | Punkie` | easy way to help yourself out is to go to wowwiki and search for api |
| 09:51.08 | Corgan | that's what i did :p |
| 09:51.17 | Punkie` | there's a huge list of things like that which you can use :) |
| 09:51.59 | TE|Kulaar | btw @ Corgan: its working |
| 09:52.03 | TE|Kulaar | ty |
| 09:52.09 | Corgan | np |
| 09:52.52 | TE|Kulaar | btw |
| 09:53.00 | TE|Kulaar | is the same thing possible with ToT ? |
| 09:53.07 | Corgan | "targettarget" |
| 09:53.09 | Corgan | I think |
| 09:53.18 | Punkie` | yes |
| 09:53.35 | TE|Kulaar | so " if(UnitExists("targettarget")) then ... |
| 09:53.46 | Punkie` | sure |
| 09:58.22 | TE|Kulaar | very strange, its eitehr working for ToTFrame or for the TargetFrame but not for both @ the same time oO |
| 09:58.38 | Mecdemort | why exactly does blizzard use millions of globals instead of list members |
| 09:58.57 | Saladin | Because you touch yourself at night. |
| 09:59.08 | Mecdemort | damn i knew that would come back to haunt me |
| 09:59.54 | Mecdemort | it doesnt even make sense either because this.somechild is a lot better than this:GetName()..childname |
| 10:00.03 | Punkie` | TE|Kulaar: www.pastey.net and paste your code |
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| 10:00.41 | grom358 | anyone having problems with petbars with any of the Ace addons? |
| 10:01.15 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort: i think they might rewrite it for WotLK |
| 10:01.17 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 10:01.43 | Xinhuan | but the main reason is because they use XML templates and XML templates dont' allow for the scheme you just suggested |
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| 10:01.59 | Mecdemort | only because thats how they made them |
| 10:02.04 | Xinhuan | unless they add in this.somechild = this:GetName()..childname in their OnLoad |
| 10:02.16 | TE|Kulaar | http://www.pastey.net/74738-2fr3 (Frame 2) http://www.pastey.net/74739-3nh2 (Frame 3) |
| 10:02.32 | Mecdemort | $parentBlah just becames $parent.Blah |
| 10:02.35 | Xinhuan | they probably didn't forsee wow addons to have developed to the state we see addons today |
| 10:02.52 | Ellipsis | Bilzz should just go pure Lua |
| 10:02.54 | Ellipsis | \o/ |
| 10:03.19 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50636 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 10:03.19 | CIA-12 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 10:03.19 | CIA-12 | _ Add GetFriendlyBonus() and GetRatingBonus() as public API. |
| 10:03.19 | CIA-12 | _ Change GetBonus() API to match the internal GetBonus() parameters while keeping compatibility. |
| 10:03.25 | Mecdemort | if the xml didnt polute so badly it wouldnt be a problem |
| 10:04.51 | grom358 | XML is way overused |
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| 10:05.43 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50637 10AckisRecipeList/ (. AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc embeds.xml): |
| 10:05.43 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 10:05.43 | CIA-12 | - Added LibCrayon3.0 as optdep (text will be coloured eventually) |
| 10:05.43 | CIA-12 | - Modified command logic |
| 10:05.43 | CIA-12 | - Seperate branches for gui/no-gui |
| 10:06.49 | Punkie` | TE|Kulaar: target target is not player_target_changed |
| 10:06.59 | Punkie` | because you do not change your target |
| 10:07.03 | Ackis | yay patch time /sigh |
| 10:07.13 | Punkie` | old |
| 10:07.20 | Mecdemort | ya and i was an hour at most away from my netherdrake :*( |
| 10:07.22 | TE|Kulaar | so its player_targettarget_changed ? |
| 10:07.46 | Punkie` | TE|Kulaar: no, that isn't an event |
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| 10:08.09 | Punkie` | it is quite a bit harder |
| 10:08.10 | Mecdemort | theres no event for targettarget |
| 10:08.17 | Punkie` | I believe you need to register and OnUpdate check |
| 10:08.27 | Trell_ | wonder if anyone has any tips, was just in an arena, im on a team with a priest; I'm a rogue. Warrior and druid were the opponents, was dpsing the druid, and the priest was dps/healing me |
| 10:08.29 | Punkie` | but if it's not throttled it can impact your performance |
| 10:08.44 | CIA-12 | 03daviesh * r50638 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 10:08.44 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:08.44 | CIA-12 | - Fixed the Mount Hyjal error |
| 10:08.46 | Trell_ | i could not get close enough to the druid after my initial burst - perma hamstringed, and the druid was travel forming all the time |
| 10:08.50 | Trell_ | what could I have done? |
| 10:08.58 | TE|Kulaar | i think ill just delete the ToT eeP |
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| 10:12.57 | grom358 | Trell_: deadly throw? |
| 10:13.08 | Chexsum | UNIT_TARGET is the event that notifies you when a targetoftarget has changed |
| 10:13.45 | Xinhuan | Chexsum: i don't think so. |
| 10:14.07 | Xinhuan | UNIT_TARGET only fires when your target changes. there is no event that fires when your ToT changes, you have to implement polling for that |
| 10:15.27 | Chexsum | ive use it to keep track of all known units |
| 10:16.21 | Chexsum | its a busy event |
| 10:17.30 | Xinhuan | maybe they changed it since i last checked heh |
| 10:17.59 | Punkie` | unit_target will fire for anyone in your vicinity who has changed targets i assume |
| 10:18.14 | Xinhuan | how many args does that event give? |
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| 10:18.52 | Chexsum | just the unitid iirc |
| 10:19.10 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r50639 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: Altnames.lua: added a nil check error when getting the class colour |
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| 10:19.29 | Chexsum | if part1 target changes itll pass party1 and you append target to it |
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| 10:21.54 | Chexsum | i used it to check for PVE or PVP kills since i didnt always target things |
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| 10:27.18 | Towbar | hi folks |
| 10:28.12 | Towbar | do you think making an ace addon would be a good way to try and learn how to code in object orientated lauguage? |
| 10:28.43 | Towbar | Just thinking about something simple to start with, something to show all the stats a Rogue might like to see in raids or something |
| 10:28.46 | Punkie` | woo |
| 10:29.17 | Industrial | Fisker--: I want a sex too |
| 10:29.30 | Industrial | howmuch? |
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| 10:30.18 | Ellipsis | but Industrial, that's what I'm here for =[ |
| 10:30.27 | Industrial | ;o |
| 10:31.18 | Industrial | Towbar: no it wouldnt, as in my opinion LUA doesnt have alot of characteristics that other more OO languages do |
| 10:31.44 | Towbar | in what respect? |
| 10:31.47 | Industrial | the defenition of "Object Oriented" is unclear, but lua only has metatables |
| 10:32.04 | Industrial | it doesnt support eg classes by itself |
| 10:32.23 | Industrial | you can make multiple inheritance but that gets pretty slow as you make more objects |
| 10:32.56 | Towbar | I think my main setback from learning to code has been the lack of having a real project to work on thats soley managable |
| 10:33.17 | Industrial | well, you don;t have to code object oriented 95% of the time. |
| 10:33.19 | Towbar | and an addon that I would use seems to fit that criteria |
| 10:33.49 | Industrial | You can do fine (most addons do) without OO |
| 10:33.55 | Towbar | true, I work as a networking specialist and am well versed in operating systems and such, but programming is a different world entirely |
| 10:34.03 | Industrial | well im not holding you back from trying, ask away in this channel tbh :) |
| 10:34.21 | Towbar | in order to make an addon what do I need to DL ? |
| 10:34.40 | Towbar | or is there a clear forum thread on teh matter for someone who is new to programming? |
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| 10:35.21 | Grum | Towbar: you need to download nothing |
| 10:35.26 | Industrial | there is http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials |
| 10:35.28 | Grum | you need to know lua, you need to have a texteditor |
| 10:36.08 | Grum | and if you want to learn OO, write java or C# orso :) |
| 10:36.24 | Grum | or python .. or ruby .. |
| 10:36.28 | Industrial | I started out without any framework, mainly because I hadn't discovered one yet - but I also learnt how the wow api works without a framework |
| 10:37.13 | Industrial | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Beginners_Guide |
| 10:37.36 | Punkie` | it's better to start learning without using a framework |
| 10:37.46 | Towbar | why? |
| 10:38.10 | Punkie` | because you learn a lot more about the API functions without having to rely on what frameworkX has to offer |
| 10:38.17 | Chexsum | you can make some handy programs with java and its easy to learn |
| 10:38.32 | Industrial | depends on your goal, getting that addon out and being done with it or wanting to understand everything about the wow api (beyond the framework API) |
| 10:38.50 | Towbar | and by framework api you mean ace? |
| 10:38.54 | Industrial | yes |
| 10:39.24 | [Ammo] | any framework actually |
| 10:39.27 | Industrial | There;s Ace2, Dongle and Rock atm |
| 10:39.39 | Punkie` | and sea? :p |
| 10:39.46 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50640 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 10:39.46 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 10:39.46 | CIA-12 | - some bugfixes |
| 10:39.56 | Industrial | thats a library with handy functions :p |
| 10:40.12 | Punkie` | Industrial: we should all start using AlarLib |
| 10:40.21 | Chexsum | ace code is a lot nicer to learn from than blizzards |
| 10:40.55 | vhaarr | Punkie`: I disagree, starting with a framework is easier |
| 10:41.10 | [Ammo] | but not better |
| 10:41.18 | cryogen | a framework is supposed to exist so you dont NEED to delve too deep into the api |
| 10:41.18 | [Ammo] | which is what punkie said |
| 10:41.21 | Towbar | interesting arguments |
| 10:41.23 | cryogen | if you just want your addon Done(tm) |
| 10:41.44 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: that's essentially irrelevant, the point is that it makes things easier |
| 10:41.45 | Punkie` | i took the wrong step and started learning from the ace framework |
| 10:42.08 | vhaarr | I took the right step and started learning from the Ace2 framework |
| 10:42.11 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: but knowing the underlying API properly helps a lot when making stuff optimized |
| 10:42.12 | Towbar | why do you believe that was teh wrong path? |
| 10:42.16 | vhaarr | it wasn't |
| 10:42.19 | vhaarr | Punkie` just sucks |
| 10:42.23 | Towbar | lol |
| 10:42.24 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: yeah |
| 10:42.32 | Punkie` | nah, it's much better tbh |
| 10:42.52 | Towbar | so what are the pros and cons of a framework learning curve |
| 10:42.58 | vhaarr | just do what you want |
| 10:43.00 | [Ammo] | anyway, need someone that knows how to extract the data for the instancemaps |
| 10:43.14 | [Ammo] | there's 7 broken instances atm in carto |
| 10:43.24 | vhaarr | ckknight ? |
| 10:43.25 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50641 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen: Remove comment (My stupid mistake XD) |
| 10:43.27 | [Ammo] | clicking any of those will break the whole instancemap module |
| 10:43.40 | vhaarr | I only know ckk and funk knows that stuff |
| 10:43.41 | [Ammo] | ckknight said he was on it, but he went silent after I asked an explanation on how to fix it myself |
| 10:43.47 | [Ammo] | phyber knows as wel I think |
| 10:44.07 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:44.16 | [Ammo] | posted the list of instances in the carto instancemaps not working thread |
| 10:44.35 | [Ammo] | avoid clicking those and it'll remain working :) |
| 10:45.25 | phyber | [Ammo]: I know how to do it, I have the script and map data already extracted too. |
| 10:45.32 | Towbar | ok lets say I want to make an addon for Rogues atm, that displays, current: ap, HM/OH weapon speeds, crit etc |
| 10:45.32 | [Ammo] | ah cool |
| 10:45.41 | phyber | I can go over them again, but since I'm at work, I can't check to make sure it works right now. |
| 10:45.45 | Towbar | something similar to flurry for example |
| 10:45.52 | [Ammo] | phyber the following instances need redoing: Blood Furnace, Shattered Halls, Arcatraz, Shadow Labs, SSC, Slave Pens, Underbog |
| 10:45.58 | phyber | I'll check it out later though, and redo those instances :) |
| 10:46.02 | [Ammo] | I can test |
| 10:46.09 | phyber | ah, k. I'll extract now. |
| 10:46.10 | [Ammo] | if you pass me a new Data file |
| 10:46.19 | Towbar | that can be resized, give colour choices etc and be somewhat customisable on location and background etc |
| 10:46.30 | phyber | give me a few minutes, perhaps 10/15 and I'll DCC a datafile. |
| 10:46.36 | Towbar | what would be the best learning curve and why? |
| 10:46.38 | vhaarr | Towbar: unless you use Tablet-2.0, that's not a good first addon |
| 10:46.38 | [Ammo] | dcc bad just PM me a web location? |
| 10:46.57 | Towbar | vhaarr: why? |
| 10:47.00 | Punkie` | Towbar: I believe there is already said addon :P |
| 10:47.00 | vhaarr | Towbar: if you use tablet-2.0, forget about resize and color/border stuff and just present your data like a spreadsheet, and it should be easy |
| 10:47.05 | Towbar | and what is tablet 2.0 |
| 10:47.07 | vhaarr | Towbar: because UI stuff is hard as fuck |
| 10:47.11 | vhaarr | in wow |
| 10:47.31 | Towbar | are not most addons UI based? |
| 10:47.41 | Towbar | or connected in some way |
| 10:47.43 | Punkie` | i think vhaarr means config wise |
| 10:48.05 | vhaarr | I do not |
| 10:48.13 | vhaarr | read what Towbar said before you comment |
| 10:48.31 | Punkie` | I did |
| 10:48.55 | vhaarr | Towbar: basically make it a fubar plugin, and it's easy, make it a custom interface, and it'll be a bad first addon |
| 10:49.11 | Towbar | ahhh so coding fubar addons are easier? |
| 10:49.19 | vhaarr | for what you want to do, yes |
| 10:49.26 | Towbar | ok |
| 10:49.32 | Towbar | why? |
| 10:49.37 | vhaarr | I just said why |
| 10:49.40 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> Towbar: because UI stuff is hard as fuck |
| 10:49.40 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> in wow |
| 10:49.42 | Ellipsis | to get information from point A to point B, the best route is usually the one someone's paved for you already |
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| 10:50.20 | Towbar | i know that its hard, but why is it easier to make it a fubar addon? |
| 10:50.35 | Ellipsis | because FuBar does all the graphical stuff |
| 10:50.36 | vhaarr | because tablet-2.0 takes care of the UI for you |
| 10:50.37 | Grum | because you get the UI-part for free |
| 10:50.40 | Towbar | ahhh I see |
| 10:50.49 | Ellipsis | you just say "hay here's some info" and it goes "k I tell the user for you" |
| 10:51.02 | Towbar | that sounds nice |
| 10:51.12 | Ellipsis | if only everything in life were that easy |
| 10:51.22 | Towbar | agree |
| 10:51.56 | Towbar | ok so what do I need to make a fubar addon? |
| 10:52.09 | Towbar | any reccomended reading apart from the two links posted previously? |
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| 10:54.06 | Punkie` | Towbar: open the wowace wiki |
| 10:54.19 | Punkie` | head to api documentation and take a look at ace options tables |
| 10:54.21 | Towbar | i am there |
| 10:54.26 | Towbar | ok :) |
| 10:55.16 | backbone | there is no "continue" in lua? |
| 10:55.18 | Punkie` | also, don't use sel.frame anywhere if you are making a fubar plugin |
| 10:55.26 | Ellipsis | lol Punkie` |
| 10:55.31 | Punkie` | :P |
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| 10:56.47 | sag_ich_nicht | hi |
| 10:56.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis go to bed |
| 10:56.55 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 10:57.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm at work |
| 10:57.43 | Industrial | backbone: no, but I'm sure you can solve it without a continue :) want to pastey.net it :P? |
| 10:58.02 | Ellipsis | this just in: goto considered harmful |
| 10:58.30 | Punkie` | Towbar: since you are looking at haste, crit and such; take a look at the wdn for the character screen :) |
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| 10:59.49 | Towbar | wdn? |
| 11:00.12 | backbone | yeah i can manage it on my own, but continue looks better ;) |
| 11:00.30 | Industrial | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 11:00.35 | Industrial | blizzard code changes |
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| 11:14.12 | vhaarr | 'MS Awarded "Best Campaigner Against OOXML"' |
| 11:14.30 | vhaarr | "By pushing so hard to get OOXML endorsed ... Microsoft showed to the world how poor their format is." |
| 11:14.33 | vhaarr | http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/01/235237.shtml |
| 11:14.41 | Ellipsis | win |
| 11:14.57 | vhaarr | lol |
| 11:14.59 | vhaarr | "If Microsoft doesn't send a representative to claim their 2500-Euro prize at the FFII General Assembly in November, FFII will give the money to Peruvian earthquake relief." |
| 11:15.36 | Fisker-- | zealots! |
| 11:16.00 | Chompers | prison break or heroes |
| 11:16.09 | Chompers | i don't know what to watch! |
| 11:16.20 | Fisker-- | neither! |
| 11:16.39 | Punkie` | I haven't watched Prison Break so I'll say Heroes :P |
| 11:16.46 | Towbar | are they up yet? |
| 11:16.49 | Towbar | woot |
| 11:16.58 | Industrial | prison break sucks |
| 11:17.00 | Industrial | go hieroes |
| 11:17.05 | Towbar | i like both |
| 11:17.20 | Chompers | i chose californication instead |
| 11:17.28 | Chompers | Fisker- is the winar |
| 11:17.39 | Punkie` | suit yourself |
| 11:18.11 | Matrix110 | fileplanet servers are so slow |
| 11:18.13 | Towbar | dexter is up too :) |
| 11:18.24 | Matrix110 | giev Crysis MP beta mirror with fullspeed |
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| 11:21.45 | Grum | Crysli: i can give you a summary unless you pay me ^^ |
| 11:21.56 | Chompers | first 2 eps sucked |
| 11:22.07 | Crysli | Grum: No thanks. I'll just watch 'em. |
| 11:22.20 | Grum | you need to geiv me coppir unless i'll tell you! ;D |
| 11:22.20 | Industrial | whens season 2 done? |
| 11:22.27 | Industrial | I dont watch ep's only whole seasons |
| 11:22.33 | Grum | Industrial: lol |
| 11:22.42 | Industrial | its crap to have to wait a full week |
| 11:22.42 | Grum | Crysli: Yattah! |
| 11:22.49 | Grum | (omg i've said too much .. sorry :( ) |
| 11:22.56 | Industrial | I could watch 20 anime series at the same time like that but it wouldnt be as fun |
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| 11:26.35 | kebinusan | time to update tocs again! |
| 11:27.44 | Recluse | beer fest is 2.3? |
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| 11:28.46 | Grum | 2.2.2 |
| 11:28.59 | kebinusan | 2.2.2 |
| 11:29.05 | Grum | anything fun to get on beerfest? |
| 11:29.13 | Recluse | new mounts |
| 11:29.18 | phyber | PUMPKIN PET |
| 11:29.22 | kebinusan | yeah brewfest and the halloween event |
| 11:29.25 | Grum | look phyber knows stuff |
| 11:29.35 | Grum | I WANT A PUMPKINPET NOW |
| 11:29.44 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50642 10CartoAce/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: CartoAce: fix the 7 broken outlands instancemaps. |
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| 11:29.58 | Zicon | Pumpin pet? Where when how? |
| 11:30.06 | Ellipsis | want! |
| 11:30.07 | phyber | headless guy drops it sometimes. |
| 11:30.13 | Zicon | ! |
| 11:30.14 | Grum | headless? |
| 11:30.27 | Recluse | invisible jackalope pet, new beer goats, and goggles that turn things into gnomes (alliance) and something else (horde), but the goggles have duration on em T_T |
| 11:30.28 | kebinusan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/brewfest |
| 11:30.35 | kebinusan | the next event isnt until later this month |
| 11:30.53 | Grum | duration? |
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| 11:31.09 | Recluse | not sure off hand, like 10 days? |
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| 11:31.20 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50643 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer: fix the 7 broken instancemaps, thanks Phyber for running the miner |
| 11:31.26 | phyber | think it's just 7 days of terrifying gnome-o-vision. |
| 11:31.53 | Recluse | ofc this was all from people on ptr's so things coulda changed XD |
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| 11:32.45 | Recluse | i can't figure out why you'd want a non-combat pet that no one can see but you, though, but i'm a pet collector so |
| 11:32.56 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.57 | kebinusan | collectors edition panda |
| 11:33.01 | kebinusan | or mr pinchy |
| 11:33.03 | Ellipsis | I don't need another non-combat pet |
| 11:33.06 | Ellipsis | my bank is full already |
| 11:33.12 | Ellipsis | <_< |
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| 11:33.19 | Zicon | I still have a couple of slots; I need it. :P |
| 11:33.21 | Recluse | good lord, 13 new graveyards? |
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| 11:33.41 | Grum | just 13? |
| 11:33.45 | Recluse | lol |
| 11:33.47 | ccKep | woshh |
| 11:33.53 | kebinusan | all oldworld |
| 11:33.58 | Grum | lol |
| 11:34.00 | Recluse | yeah, but still |
| 11:34.04 | Grum | WTB GY closer to bloody SSC |
| 11:34.22 | Recluse | Grum: just don't wipe XD |
| 11:34.25 | [Ammo] | stop dying :p |
| 11:34.26 | kebinusan | grum, imo you should rez at the pvp gy if you die in the instances and control the gy, I said that in beta too |
| 11:34.44 | Grum | tell Vashj that O.o |
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| 11:35.43 | Grum | seriously .. having problems with Vashj now .. and after this it will be 1 week before we see Kael .. not looking forward to that fight O.o |
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| 11:36.22 | kebinusan | yeah we didnt kill vashj this week which of course made everyone angry at each other |
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| 11:36.52 | kebinusan | such a crappy realm I reside on |
| 11:37.00 | Grum | done 1.5raids on vashj this week already |
| 11:37.08 | Grum | and yet another one today |
| 11:37.11 | Recluse | god i hate when people zip a zip file. so pointless |
| 11:37.23 | Ellipsis | but I wanted to make it smaller! |
| 11:37.24 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50644 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 11:37.24 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:37.24 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW |
| 11:37.26 | Towbar | if it makes you feel any better we one shot all of SSC and TK and wiped on kael all last night |
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| 11:37.28 | Ellipsis | the zip was too big =[ |
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| 11:37.40 | Towbar | one shot mag and 2 world bosses and gruuls too |
| 11:37.40 | Grum | Towbar: hehe |
| 11:37.47 | Recluse | lol, zip it with better compress the first time! >.> |
| 11:37.48 | Matrix110 | Recluse its better when people zip a zip with a a installer that first unzips itself and then starts installing |
| 11:37.51 | Grum | how much time Towbar ? :D |
| 11:37.55 | Recluse | compression* |
| 11:37.59 | kebinusan | we held off doing astromancer till this week, man that fight is a joke |
| 11:38.01 | Towbar | and still wiped on kael, getting new ppl attuned is a pain |
| 11:38.18 | Towbar | 4 hr sold kael wipes |
| 11:38.22 | Towbar | solid* |
| 11:38.27 | Recluse | well, that makes a *little* more sense, at least it's the installer doing the work |
| 11:38.27 | Matrix110 | Kael Phase 1 is nice now |
| 11:38.32 | Matrix110 | but the chattering is still too long |
| 11:38.32 | Towbar | 7 or 8 new ppl to kael though :/ |
| 11:38.34 | kebinusan | Towbar fun fun |
| 11:38.35 | Grum | Towbar: hoe fast did you clear all of that? |
| 11:38.39 | Towbar | kael phase 1 is easy yea |
| 11:38.50 | Eggi | vashj is imo worse then kael |
| 11:38.54 | Matrix110 | no |
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| 11:38.58 | Towbar | grum: wednesday we killed solarian, hydros, lurker and morrowgrim |
| 11:39.00 | Matrix110 | Vashj is ezmode compared to kael Oo |
| 11:39.12 | Grum | Towbar: Al'ar? |
| 11:39.16 | Recluse | 2.2.2, that's not toc update material there... |
| 11:39.18 | Towbar | thursday: leo, karathress and vashj |
| 11:39.31 | Eggi | vashj is sometimes bugged and has some more random factors... |
| 11:39.39 | Towbar | sunday alar lootreaver, doomwalker, kazzak, gruuls and mag |
| 11:39.40 | Grum | bugged what way? |
| 11:39.40 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50645 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.toc AutoTurninGlobals.lua): AutoTurnin: update zhTW |
| 11:39.41 | Matrix110 | Kael has them aswell:P |
| 11:39.48 | Matrix110 | MCing is funny |
| 11:39.54 | Eggi | you go into the last phase |
| 11:39.57 | ccKep | the only "random factor" on vashj is: "are your dps doing well or not?" |
| 11:40.08 | Towbar | what grp setup have you on vashj? |
| 11:40.09 | Eggi | and there is one green elemental shooting at people... did not even stop when vashj was down |
| 11:40.21 | Eggi | happend now 2 times to us... don't know if the fixed it with 2.2 |
| 11:40.23 | Towbar | vashj is easy with a perfect setup |
| 11:40.29 | Grum | what is a perfect setup? |
| 11:40.35 | Towbar | 2.2 fixed teh elementals |
| 11:40.36 | Matrix110 | 7healers 3-4tanks(needed for the bosses before not for vashj) rest dps |
| 11:41.05 | Eggi | ah... ok was no problem for us but if you learn the fight it can make things a bit harder |
| 11:41.09 | ccKep | dps, tons of dps... that wins phase2, and phase3 is basically "zerg it down and don't die ffs" |
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| 11:41.30 | Towbar | for us, melee grp 4 rogues and a bear on nagas, 7 heals round teh edges, sweeper tank on naga pickup / elemental kills and rest of caster dps kiting striders |
| 11:41.37 | Grum | ccKep: seems straightforward enough to me while trying last night :) |
| 11:41.43 | Matrix110 | 3 Elemental cleaners 1 healer each melee on Naga ranged on Strider that gets kited by warlock 1 hunter to kill elemental coming trough |
| 11:41.44 | Towbar | yea use everything in phase 3 |
| 11:41.48 | Matrix110 | *4 elemental |
| 11:41.49 | Eggi | 3-4 tanks? |
| 11:41.51 | Towbar | cd's drums heroism etc |
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| 11:42.08 | [Ammo] | p3 => have hunters dps bats |
| 11:42.09 | Eggi | you coun't the kiter as a tank? |
| 11:42.17 | Matrix110 | no? |
| 11:42.18 | [Ammo] | helps with the green goo |
| 11:42.25 | Matrix110 | i said we have 3-4 tanks because we need them for the bosses before |
| 11:42.27 | [Ammo] | and keeps vashj more in one place -> more rogue dps |
| 11:42.28 | Eggi | then 2 tanks are enough |
| 11:42.32 | Matrix110 | no shit? |
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| 11:42.43 | Towbar | bear and warrior on naga pickup (north south) MT picking off low hp elementals getting through on phase 2 |
| 11:42.51 | Towbar | prefer 3 tanks |
| 11:42.52 | Eggi | which boss needs more then 2 tanks in ssc o0? |
| 11:42.52 | [Ammo] | then when there's too many bats have them switch to dpsing vashj |
| 11:43.03 | Matrix110 | Fathom Lord |
| 11:43.03 | ccKep | Eggi: karathress? ^.^ |
| 11:43.04 | Grum | Karat? |
| 11:43.09 | Towbar | eggi: karathress |
| 11:43.12 | Eggi | 2 are enough there cckep |
| 11:43.12 | [Ammo] | kara 4 tanks |
| 11:43.16 | Grum | we use 4 there - no idea how to do less |
| 11:43.30 | Towbar | warrior on shammy, bear on hunter and pet, warrior on priest and MT on karathress |
| 11:43.35 | ccKep | that's 6 mobs, I'd like to see 2 there |
| 11:43.38 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50646 10XLoot/localization.zhTW.lua: XLoot: update zhTW |
| 11:43.45 | ccKep | *5 I mean |
| 11:43.50 | Towbar | 4 |
| 11:44.02 | ccKep | karathress, shaman, priest, hunter, pet |
| 11:44.02 | Towbar | bear can swipe tank the hunter and pet easy with 31k armor cap |
| 11:44.03 | Eggi | 2 speced for tanking.. sure you need more but these won't thank on vashj |
| 11:44.04 | ccKep | makes 5 for me |
| 11:44.05 | Matrix110 | and i kinda like having more than 2 tanks on trash tbh:P |
| 11:44.10 | Eggi | thank = tank |
| 11:44.13 | Towbar | hunter and pet can be easy tanked by a bear |
| 11:44.29 | ccKep | even that makes 4 tanks... not 2 |
| 11:44.30 | Matrix110 | a feral druid is a tank for me even if hes in dps gear for vashj:P |
| 11:44.33 | Towbar | trash likes 3 or 4 tanks too |
| 11:44.41 | Towbar | <3 feral druids |
| 11:44.51 | Towbar | 5% crit and extra bleed dmg & trickle heals |
| 11:45.00 | ccKep | did hyjal yesterday without a single feral druid, that plain sucks |
| 11:45.08 | Towbar | :( |
| 11:45.12 | Towbar | you guys use a shammy in the melee grp? |
| 11:45.27 | ccKep | since this week, yes |
| 11:45.31 | ccKep | just recruited |
| 11:45.38 | Grum | if we have an enhancement .. yes |
| 11:45.39 | Towbar | WF is a nice 300 dps min for me |
| 11:45.46 | Matrix110 | 2 Rogues 1 Ele Shammy 1 dps warrior 1 feral druid =nice dps:P |
| 11:45.48 | ccKep | until this week I was the only active raiding shaman in my guild (resto) |
| 11:45.55 | ccKep | recruited an enhancement and an elemental shaman this week |
| 11:45.55 | Towbar | and with WF heroism its 1500 tps :) |
| 11:46.10 | Towbar | 3% crit totem is nice for casters and mana spring |
| 11:46.12 | SunTsu | Towbar: Even more crit if he has the Idol of the raven goddess |
| 11:46.21 | Towbar | and i think they are buffing mana spring to 20 mp2 |
| 11:46.27 | Grum | !i Idol of the raven goddess |
| 11:46.28 | ThraeBot | Grum: Name: Idol of the Raven Goddess; Rarity: Rare (Blue); BoP; Unique; Type: Idol/Relic/Totem (Idol); Equip: Increases the healing granted by the Tree of Life form aura by 20, adds 9 critical strike rating to the Leader of the Pack aura, and adds 9 spell critical strike rating to the Moonkin form aura.; |
| 11:46.29 | ThraeBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.36 | Towbar | yea sun but its only 0.69% more |
| 11:46.51 | Towbar | or less? |
| 11:47.21 | SunTsu | Towbar: No, but it's nearly one percent, which is neat, for free |
| 11:47.22 | Towbar | since our bear in teh grp is a tank he uses the shred idol i think for better aggro |
| 11:47.41 | Towbar | suntsu: yea, bears ftw |
| 11:47.57 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@82-171-43-202.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 11:47.57 | CIA-12 | 03diablohu * r50647 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua: |
| 11:47.57 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:47.57 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
| 11:48.21 | Towbar | alot of guilds put too little dps on teh bats as well in phase 3 |
| 11:48.38 | Matrix110 | we got no dps on them Oo |
| 11:48.42 | Towbar | on vashj, make sure the bats die so the melee can nuke without dancing around too much |
| 11:48.53 | Arcaia | English is a beautiful language. |
| 11:48.54 | Towbar | we put a few nuke locks on them |
| 11:48.59 | SunTsu | Towbar: Well, the bear itself has more crit, too, so this will give him more aggro, and, with improved leader more heal ;) |
| 11:49.21 | Towbar | yes but he def pulls better threat with his increased dmg |
| 11:49.24 | Matrix110 | but we never really wiped to bats pre Enrage anyway just sometimes some melees die because of Root=poison but well thats randomness |
| 11:49.38 | Towbar | and i have enough aggro probs with warrior tanks without more crit :) |
| 11:50.08 | Towbar | make sure all rogues have imp sprint etc, makes such a difference having that extra meathod of excape |
| 11:50.14 | Towbar | method* |
| 11:50.19 | Towbar | escape*~ |
| 11:50.25 | Towbar | wtb new fngers, seriously |
| 11:50.29 | Towbar | i give up |
| 11:50.56 | Arcaia | Imp. Kick > Imp. Sprint - IMO. |
| 11:51.03 | Towbar | i use both |
| 11:51.08 | Towbar | but i pvp alot |
| 11:51.16 | Arcaia | But I can't read any of your wall of text to discern any of what you're talking about. |
| 11:51.23 | Towbar | !c eu azjol-nerub towbar |
| 11:51.26 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 8344 HP; 1715 AP; 373.800 Melee DPS; 25.19% melee crit; 280 melee hit; 27.06% dodge; 20 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 816 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytuftp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p76yo ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:51:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:51.32 | Towbar | doh thats pve gear |
| 11:51.42 | Towbar | 373 melee dps lol |
| 11:51.45 | Grum | Towbar: you're killing Illidan? :) |
| 11:51.52 | Towbar | add 1k to that if I got a shammy :) |
| 11:51.53 | *** join/#wowace Ra1d3n (i=killspam@83-65-233-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:52.04 | Towbar | grum: nope we only killed kael onbce |
| 11:52.06 | Towbar | once* |
| 11:52.07 | Matrix110 | our most annoying wipe was a rogue dieing in P1 because of overaggro, then dieing in p2 at first naga because of overaggro(all combat resses gone ofc) and then we wipe in p3 ~40secs inside enrage at 1% |
| 11:52.18 | Towbar | phase one wipes are retarded |
| 11:52.20 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 11:52.21 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 11:52.22 | Towbar | deaths |
| 11:52.23 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 9914 HP; 1412 AP; 354.100 Melee DPS; 26.78% melee crit; 138 melee hit; 22.61% dodge; 55 resilience;[[ TBR: 1398 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:52:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:52.24 | Arcaia | in pvp/farming gear |
| 11:52.26 | Towbar | on vashj and kael |
| 11:52.37 | Towbar | its seriously stupid and the biggest waste of a BR ever |
| 11:52.38 | Arcaia | so stats are off for PVE ;P |
| 11:52.39 | Eggi | !c eu wrathbringer Eggii |
| 11:52.42 | ThraeBot | Eggi: Eggii, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 8671 HP; 8805 Mana; 215 mana regen; 71 mp5; 158 spell crit; 156 spell hit; 974 +spell dmg/heal; 111 frost dmg (1085); 286 shadow dmg (1260); 4.82% dodge; 38 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1081 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr2yp9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2te5vg ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:52:56 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:52.45 | Towbar | dont worry we get that too from time to time |
| 11:52.58 | Matrix110 | well now dieing in p1 @kael is now pretty much impossible:P |
| 11:53.02 | Towbar | !c eu azjol-nerub creeg |
| 11:53.07 | Towbar | thats my SP |
| 11:53.07 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Creeg, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 8011 HP; 7950 Mana; 159 mana regen; 48 mp5; 126 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 778 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (957); 179 shadow dmg (957); 4.86% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 891 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26yl5u ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2r8u9l ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:53:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:53.17 | Towbar | 6 days played at 70 |
| 11:53.34 | Matrix110 | !c eu Kazzak Erestor |
| 11:53.37 | ThraeBot | Matrix110: Erestor, Level 70 Human Mage (8/0/53). 7733 HP; 8426 Mana; 193 mana regen; 381 spell crit; 82 spell hit; 1022 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1076); 54 shadow dmg (1076); 5.02% dodge; 29 resilience;[[ TBR: 884 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25kyod ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37w5uk ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:53:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:53.49 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 11:53.52 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/2/45). 7001 HP; 6855 Mana; 141 mana regen; 21 mp5; 51 spell crit; 58 spell hit; 430 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (609); 179 shadow dmg (609); 4.82% dodge; 33 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1445 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:54:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:53.58 | Bruners | enough already |
| 11:54.08 | Towbar | 21mp5? |
| 11:54.14 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Frug |
| 11:54.17 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frug, Level 34 Blood Elf Mage (0/0/25). 823 HP; 2592 Mana; 92 mana regen; 6 mp5; 56 +spell dmg/heal; 20 frost dmg (76); 4.87% dodge; 2 frost resist;[[ TBR: 358 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo43ux ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jdryw ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:54:30 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:54.33 | Eggi | getting ~1100 +dmg is easy with the tailoring things |
| 11:54.43 | Towbar | i spent 13k the day i dinged |
| 11:54.46 | Arcaia | HI! |
| 11:54.52 | Towbar | spellstrike set and shadowweave set |
| 11:54.59 | Towbar | epic flying mount 20 slot bags etc |
| 11:55.06 | Arcaia | I R ARCAIA. I R NO RAID TIME. WAN 2 PLAY? |
| 11:55.10 | Punkie` | Towbar: are you aiming for t5 4set? |
| 11:55.18 | Towbar | got 3/5 atm |
| 11:55.31 | Towbar | but i might have to wait a while for the head |
| 11:55.31 | Punkie` | you'll like it |
| 11:55.48 | Punkie` | procs more often than I thought it would |
| 11:55.52 | Towbar | awesome |
| 11:55.55 | Punkie` | and seems to proc when you need it :P |
| 11:56.03 | Towbar | the other rogues that have it seem to like it |
| 11:56.14 | Towbar | but again more t5 makes me loose more hit rating :? |
| 11:56.14 | Punkie` | yup, its awesome |
| 11:56.30 | Towbar | changed 3 parts t4 to t5 and lost 30 hit |
| 11:56.33 | Punkie` | hit rating is actually overrated |
| 11:56.44 | Towbar | lucky i got 366 weapon skill so i only need 299 for cap |
| 11:56.47 | Arcaia | Oooh ooh, cool trick guys. I challenge you, Equip 100% blues - Raid gruul with your guild who are all in Tier 4 or greater - Be #1 on DPS/Damage Done Charts |
| 11:56.48 | Punkie` | yup |
| 11:56.57 | Arcaia | That is a true Rogue challenge. |
| 11:57.01 | Arcaia | <- been there done that. |
| 11:57.04 | Punkie` | i don't have combat potency, so it's not much of a deal |
| 11:57.08 | Towbar | i dont know mate, when i was using 4 part t4 i was outdpsing our 3 part t5 rogues |
| 11:57.13 | Towbar | no potency? |
| 11:57.16 | Towbar | :O |
| 11:57.28 | Punkie` | nah |
| 11:57.29 | Towbar | thats like a frost mage without lolblock |
| 11:57.35 | Arcaia | Rogue vs Rogue doesn't count |
| 11:57.41 | Punkie` | who said I was full combat ^^ |
| 11:57.43 | Towbar | what spec are you? |
| 11:57.48 | Punkie` | rawr! |
| 11:57.54 | Towbar | 30-31-0? |
| 11:57.58 | Arcaia | It's out dpsing the all epic casters and Hunters on a Ranged-preffered DPS fight, and still topping the charts. |
| 11:58.03 | Arcaia | That's the Challenge. |
| 11:58.21 | Towbar | I am our top dps rogue except if tyriel isnt feeling lazy |
| 11:58.31 | Towbar | but he outgears me quite a bit now |
| 11:58.32 | Crysli | Heroes r new fave show |
| 11:58.35 | Punkie` | !c eu Kazzak Punkie |
| 11:58.38 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 8654 HP; +10 Energy; 3587 Armour; 1846 AP; 424.300 Melee DPS; 27.95% melee crit; 251 melee hit; 28.11% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1354 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysu26j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v96cq ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 07:58:52 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:58.41 | Towbar | heroes is awesome |
| 11:58.46 | Punkie` | >:P |
| 11:59.04 | Crysli | It is. Have to watch it with spanish subs though D: |
| 11:59.07 | Towbar | muti build? |
| 11:59.07 | Arcaia | but the concept is - [LISTEN] - it's a ranged Preferred fight, you are in Blues, the other 24 people are in Tier4+, you are #1 |
| 11:59.20 | Punkie` | yes |
| 11:59.24 | Towbar | arcaia: lol |
| 11:59.53 | Ellipsis | I thought threat was teh limiting factor anyway |
| 12:00.03 | Ellipsis | since everyone QQs about it so much |
| 12:00.08 | Towbar | depends on the tank |
| 12:00.11 | Crysli | Question: Is putting timestamps on your chat useless? |
| 12:00.16 | Ellipsis | no |
| 12:00.19 | Towbar | xeph pulls 1050-1100 TPS now solid |
| 12:00.26 | Matrix110 | timestamps own:P |
| 12:00.31 | Towbar | teryn even more, I cant catch him if I want to |
| 12:00.33 | Ellipsis | I can't live without my timestamps |
| 12:00.33 | Marli | Voice Communication disabled - Due to widespread abuse and spam |
| 12:00.35 | Marli | inb4 " |
| 12:00.37 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r50648 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): |
| 12:00.37 | CIA-12 | ElkBuffBars |
| 12:00.37 | CIA-12 | - changed the way bars are updated, should result in smoother bars in some cases |
| 12:00.37 | CIA-12 | - some other small tweaks |
| 12:00.38 | Towbar | (bear) |
| 12:00.42 | Arcaia | Well I was in Blues the 6 times we downed him, and I never took a Hurful Strike except for the one day he was bugged and he had to get a GM to fix him. |
| 12:00.56 | Towbar | took who? |
| 12:01.10 | Punkie` | I usually just go all out |
| 12:01.17 | Punkie` | doesn't matter which boss |
| 12:01.22 | [Ammo] | Marli: hmm? where? |
| 12:01.24 | Towbar | a fient or two at teh start is usually enough |
| 12:01.32 | Punkie` | i rarely feint too |
| 12:01.34 | Marli | In about 2 weeks [Ammo] :] |
| 12:01.35 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub xeph |
| 12:01.36 | Punkie` | just vanish when i need too |
| 12:01.37 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 12:01.38 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Xeph, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (8/5/48). 16074 HP; 16306 Armour; 702 AP; 143.100 Melee DPS; 13.72% melee crit; 35 melee hit; 378 defense; 24.69% dodge; 30.22% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1259 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cw982 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2njdqe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 08:01:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:01.38 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 12:01.44 | Towbar | our MT |
| 12:01.48 | Arcaia | If your tank is great, you let him get his initial threat, and TRY to steal aggro. If your tank is good, you can't get close. |
| 12:01.53 | Towbar | sucks up 22k pyros from kael easy |
| 12:01.57 | Crysli | Q: What do you get if you cross a boy band and a Feral Druid? A: http://youtube.com/watch?v=twQlpFrm5iM |
| 12:02.12 | Punkie` | Towbar: and so he should |
| 12:02.23 | Marli | seriously, people in your guild when you do raids need to fix mics and stuff why the fuck would I want to tell people their mics are shit every instance |
| 12:02.24 | Punkie` | Crysli: is that bearforce 1? |
| 12:02.30 | Crysli | Punkie: Yes it is. |
| 12:02.45 | Punkie` | ~kill Crysli |
| 12:02.46 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited fluxpositrino gun at Crysli |
| 12:02.51 | Towbar | rofl |
| 12:02.58 | Crysli | :'( |
| 12:03.23 | Towbar | got any UI pics? |
| 12:03.43 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/lastest-sept.jpg |
| 12:03.47 | Towbar | thats quite recent |
| 12:03.57 | Punkie` | who, me or in general |
| 12:03.58 | Towbar | after stupid MT pulls two sets of murlocs |
| 12:04.06 | Towbar | ppl here, their own UI's |
| 12:04.10 | [Ammo] | 100mib UI? |
| 12:04.12 | [Ammo] | wowah |
| 12:04.13 | Crysli | Towbar: Gradients have just killed my eyes |
| 12:04.21 | Towbar | 100 mb is recount |
| 12:04.27 | Towbar | i rarely reset it |
| 12:04.34 | Towbar | to check hit miss etc |
| 12:04.43 | Arcaia | towbar - WTF is that. |
| 12:04.50 | Crysli | Gimme a sec to find the link to mine |
| 12:05.03 | Arcaia | Towbar : http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_100207_031827.jpg rogue ui. |
| 12:05.07 | Towbar | each to their own I suppose |
| 12:05.17 | Crysli | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8823/january002xa6.jpg |
| 12:05.20 | Elkano | does :RegisterForClicks() override previous calls or add to them? |
| 12:06.15 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/punkieui2.jpg |
| 12:06.22 | Punkie` | it's a bit more changed than that tho |
| 12:06.34 | Crysli | Punkie: That's pretty sexy |
| 12:07.02 | Crysli | Got a hidden bar above that single one? |
| 12:07.11 | Eggi | punkie: try to put things that you need in combat together |
| 12:07.26 | Eggi | i don't think that the dmg meter is more important then the threat meter |
| 12:07.30 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@bb-87-82-13-93.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 12:07.46 | Arcaia | Towbar: how can you EVEN STAND TO LOG IN. |
| 12:08.03 | Crysli | Hay be nice |
| 12:08.08 | Towbar | i got a dual core pc with 2 gig of ram and nice widescreen monitor |
| 12:08.11 | Punkie` | Eggi: i hardly look at it tbh |
| 12:08.16 | Arcaia | That is me being nice. |
| 12:08.37 | Towbar | if i remove addons i dont see loading bar |
| 12:08.44 | Towbar | with addons its about 10 secs |
| 12:08.49 | Arcaia | 97mibs is unacceptable, I have 2gigs of Ram and a nice monitor, and a dualcore |
| 12:08.57 | Eggi | maybe because it is to far left if you focus on the middle of your screen |
| 12:08.58 | Arcaia | but that doesnt mean i prefer to shoot myself in the face |
| 12:09.01 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/inside.jpg |
| 12:09.10 | Ellipsis | LOL |
| 12:09.11 | Ellipsis | hiper |
| 12:09.17 | krka | what's a mib? |
| 12:09.26 | Towbar | you wouldnt believe the PSU's i have blown... |
| 12:09.26 | *** join/#wowace the-golem (n=Darrin@76.197.2.84) |
| 12:09.34 | Towbar | asus a8n sli delux |
| 12:09.41 | Arcaia | Yay -> you have the money to buy more HDs then you'd ever need? |
| 12:09.42 | Crysli | That's a movie starring Will SMith, krka. |
| 12:09.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Towbar: oral sex with a PSU? impressive |
| 12:10.06 | Towbar | rofl |
| 12:10.08 | krka | that doesn't make sense in the context "97mibs " |
| 12:10.16 | Punkie` | Eggi: actually because I don't really feel the need too |
| 12:10.22 | Towbar | but 50+ of that is recount data |
| 12:10.28 | Punkie` | Eggi: I have a 'You have reached 100% Threat' warning |
| 12:10.30 | Ellipsis | krka: MiB = million bytes |
| 12:10.44 | Arcaia | buy a bigger psu if you have psu problems, I have a 650, and its more than I need. |
| 12:11.02 | Towbar | i blew up £145 psu's... twice |
| 12:11.04 | Ellipsis | the hipers are all for show |
| 12:11.10 | Ellipsis | they suck as actual PSUs |
| 12:11.11 | Towbar | my other 7900 nvidia blew too |
| 12:11.19 | Arcaia | theres your problem |
| 12:11.21 | Ellipsis | Towbar, ever think it might not be the hardware that's the problem? |
| 12:11.22 | Arcaia | ATi |
| 12:11.22 | Arcaia | FTW. |
| 12:11.24 | Towbar | overheated and they sent me back a new revision that ont sli with the old one... |
| 12:11.28 | Arcaia | x1600xt |
| 12:11.28 | Towbar | ati |
| 12:11.29 | Ellipsis | oh no you didn't Arcaia |
| 12:11.31 | Towbar | ftl |
| 12:11.31 | Ellipsis | oh no you didn't |
| 12:11.42 | Arcaia | Yes, Yes I did, |
| 12:11.45 | Arcaia | Never had a problem |
| 12:11.45 | Arcaia | Overclocked since day 1 |
| 12:11.45 | Punkie` | I tend to never buy ATi :p |
| 12:11.54 | Towbar | i dont overclock anymore |
| 12:11.56 | Arcaia | Had 4 ATi cards, and 1 nVidia one. |
| 12:12.00 | Towbar | all those hard drives make heat.. |
| 12:12.04 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 12:12.10 | Towbar | building PCs 14 years.. |
| 12:12.12 | Arcaia | the nVidia one i got for free, i bought a new ATi card the next week. |
| 12:12.23 | Ellipsis | Towbar, I call BS |
| 12:12.26 | Towbar | ? |
| 12:12.28 | Arcaia | As do I. |
| 12:12.34 | Gngsk | Bull Shit |
| 12:12.35 | Ellipsis | if you really knew that much about building PCs you would NOT have a system like that |
| 12:12.40 | Towbar | lol ask me anything |
| 12:12.43 | Towbar | about old stuff |
| 12:12.48 | Arcaia | If you've been building PCs for 14 years, you wouldn't have a crappy underpowered PSU. |
| 12:12.52 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 12:12.59 | Towbar | its my gaming rig and video editing box |
| 12:13.04 | Arcaia | And your fan is garbage. Get a thermaltake fan ;P |
| 12:13.05 | Towbar | that psu owns |
| 12:13.13 | Ellipsis | it's shiny and pink |
| 12:13.13 | Towbar | and i got it free from a supplier rep |
| 12:13.18 | Towbar | who said it wouldnt blow |
| 12:13.29 | Arcaia | and I have a 4800X2 >.> |
| 12:13.30 | the-golem | ... |
| 12:13.39 | the-golem | of course they'll say it wont blow |
| 12:13.43 | the-golem | its a supplier rep |
| 12:13.46 | Towbar | my next box will be ging back to intel for a change |
| 12:13.53 | the-golem | they'll say anything to get u to buy their stuff |
| 12:13.55 | Arcaia | intel + nvidia |
| 12:13.57 | Towbar | yea well it saved me spending a fortune again |
| 12:14.02 | Arcaia | LAUGH. |
| 12:14.11 | Arcaia | I clearly know why your UI is so retarded now. |
| 12:14.15 | Ellipsis | anyone who'd been building PCs for 14 years would know better than to trust a rep saying their hardware is high quality |
| 12:14.18 | Towbar | you dont belkieve I been building PCs 14 years either? |
| 12:14.32 | Ellipsis | Towbar: ever consider, y'know, researching the parts? |
| 12:14.33 | Towbar | ellipsis: it was free.. |
| 12:14.42 | Towbar | and i thought what the heck if it blows it blows |
| 12:14.45 | Towbar | and i has not |
| 12:14.45 | Ellipsis | yeah, but the parts it's gonna fry weren't |
| 12:14.51 | Towbar | the ennermax blew |
| 12:14.59 | Towbar | and the other one |
| 12:15.00 | Punkie` | btw, who cares what towbar uses |
| 12:15.01 | Towbar | emm |
| 12:15.04 | Punkie` | if he's happy |
| 12:15.05 | Punkie` | so be it |
| 12:15.13 | Towbar | if it is not broke, i am not fixing it |
| 12:15.18 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: by posting pictures like that, he's asking for it |
| 12:15.26 | Ellipsis | "hay guise look at my cool UI" |
| 12:15.26 | Towbar | what pc you running? |
| 12:15.32 | Ellipsis | "hay guise look at my leet computer" |
| 12:15.35 | Towbar | ... |
| 12:15.36 | Arcaia | I've had one PSU blow... and that was on a fileserver after a poweroutage, it blew during the bootsequence because it was having to overwork itself. |
| 12:15.38 | Punkie` | shrug, he just posted his UI |
| 12:15.39 | Ellipsis | Towbar: I don't post my specs for a reason |
| 12:15.47 | Towbar | is that the way you interpreted my postings? |
| 12:15.48 | Punkie` | and asked for others |
| 12:16.04 | Ellipsis | [5:07:25 am] <Towbar> i got a dual core pc with 2 gig of ram and nice widescreen monitor <<that's not bragging or anything |
| 12:16.09 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 12:16.11 | Crysli | I think Punkies UI is hawt. |
| 12:16.11 | Towbar | ellipsis: sigh |
| 12:16.16 | Chompers | i have a pantium 6, is that good? |
| 12:16.21 | Arcaia | Punkie`: we care because it's the internet. It's our job to point out the BS, so that the people that don't notice it, realize it through our Wisdom and knowledge. |
| 12:16.21 | Punkie` | Crysli: me too! |
| 12:16.24 | Gngsk | Crysli, I like yours |
| 12:16.25 | Chompers | the rep said it has lots of gigahurtz |
| 12:16.28 | Ellipsis | if you were just explaining why your UI performs well on your system, the monitor was still irrelevant. |
| 12:16.33 | Towbar | arcaia: proive it |
| 12:16.36 | Towbar | proove* |
| 12:16.42 | the-golem | Arcaia: i'll say 1 thing about intel, and its that you can OC their 4300 up to 3GHz safely |
| 12:16.42 | Towbar | meh i wtb new fingers |
| 12:16.43 | Crysli | Gngsk: Thanks. Sorta stole it from Boomhoof. |
| 12:16.49 | Towbar | OC ftl |
| 12:16.50 | Gngsk | stealing is great |
| 12:16.57 | Gngsk | Punkie`, did you write that debuff monitor? |
| 12:16.57 | Towbar | jsut spend more money and get a proper rated chip |
| 12:17.18 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 12:17.26 | Gngsk | thought so |
| 12:17.27 | Arcaia | Towbar: why would I have to prove anything, you've been talking out of your ass in all obvious mannerisms since you started talking. |
| 12:17.29 | kenlyric | towbar, "overclocking" to some degree isn't overclocking at all. |
| 12:17.32 | Gngsk | make icons! |
| 12:17.36 | kenlyric | you're just making the chip reach it's proper speed. |
| 12:17.40 | Punkie` | icons suck balls! |
| 12:17.49 | kenlyric | its |
| 12:17.49 | Towbar | arcaia: I am not BSing about PCs, so far all you done is call me a liar without any proof |
| 12:18.02 | *** part/#wowace Ellipsis (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-204-11.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 12:18.08 | Crysli | I'm taking OO programming next year. It'll be awesome. |
| 12:18.09 | Towbar | I used to be an avid OC fan |
| 12:18.16 | Arcaia | I donno, I think I haven't had to say anything to prove anything, you've said everything to disprove yourself. |
| 12:18.16 | Punkie` | Crysli: I like the UF layout, however if I was going to copy it I would have some aura problems ;P |
| 12:18.31 | Punkie` | UF auras are the bane of any UI i try to set up |
| 12:18.38 | Towbar | arcaia: what did I say that was incirrect? |
| 12:18.45 | Crysli | Punkie: How come? |
| 12:18.46 | krka | Ellipsis: oh... i thought the term was MB :P where does the i come from? |
| 12:18.48 | Towbar | incorrect* that was not spelling related |
| 12:18.51 | Fisker-- | oh u |
| 12:18.59 | Punkie` | Crysli: because I like things to look neat :) |
| 12:19.12 | Towbar | I like seeing raid status alot since being a raid leader |
| 12:19.17 | Towbar | hence MY UI |
| 12:19.30 | Crysli | Punkie: I think it was Caith who did some sexy auras. Might want to have a look. |
| 12:19.34 | Arcaia | your UI is the worst thing I think I've EVER seen. |
| 12:19.38 | the-golem | MiB .. MB .. *shrug* |
| 12:19.41 | Towbar | arcaia: still waiting... |
| 12:19.50 | Punkie` | Crysli: I wouldn't touch Pitbull with a bargepole though :) |
| 12:20.02 | Punkie` | Arcaia: I think I've seen worse! |
| 12:20.06 | Crysli | Punkie: How come? |
| 12:20.10 | Towbar | love pitbull when I am healing, the estimation owns |
| 12:20.12 | Punkie` | Crysli: It's a monster |
| 12:20.16 | krka | MiB is commonly used for 2^20 bytes |
| 12:20.22 | krka | MB is 10^6 bytes |
| 12:20.29 | Punkie` | why use something that is around 2-3MiB and grows by 1MiB/hour in raids |
| 12:20.36 | Crysli | Punkie: Not at all. You talking about Rock Config, or? |
| 12:20.38 | Punkie` | when I can use 60KiB unitframes |
| 12:20.54 | Towbar | depends what you want |
| 12:21.02 | Towbar | hence people have the choice |
| 12:21.14 | the-golem | I like Pitbull |
| 12:21.21 | Grum | i like Gnomes |
| 12:21.21 | Crysli | Punkie: Ah, you're talking memory. I can live with the usage. |
| 12:21.26 | the-golem | but i dont need alot of its features, most are disabled |
| 12:21.35 | Towbar | same |
| 12:21.36 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@83.101.11.180) |
| 12:21.45 | Towbar | pitbull memory usuage is teh least of my worries |
| 12:21.56 | Towbar | I USE this PC to the full extent |
| 12:22.02 | Towbar | its never switched off ever. |
| 12:22.07 | Punkie` | Crysli: The problem (and it was a biggie) that I had with PB, was that whatever it did, probably the aura module, caused my computer to lag slightly every so often |
| 12:22.16 | Towbar | two monitors and usually 5 apps open while raiding |
| 12:22.19 | Arcaia | I seriously am convinced that Towbar's tacitcal approach to making a UI is download everything that is mentioned in the WoWAce forums, and midly organizing it using mostly default settings. |
| 12:22.31 | Towbar | arcaia: you talk alot |
| 12:22.36 | [Ammo] | to each their own shrug |
| 12:22.37 | Towbar | and backup nothing of what you say |
| 12:22.42 | [Ammo] | my UI is cluttered as well |
| 12:22.43 | kenlyric | you seem to be personally offended by his ui. |
| 12:22.51 | kenlyric | maybe you shouldn't use it? |
| 12:22.59 | Gngsk | I think we should force him to |
| 12:23.09 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: your UI is going to grow legs and run away |
| 12:23.15 | Towbar | i think he would go emo |
| 12:23.16 | the-golem | lol |
| 12:23.20 | Towbar | ~emo |
| 12:23.20 | purl | /wrists |
| 12:23.21 | Crysli | I think it would be funny to force Arcaia to use it and then video tape him while he plays |
| 12:23.25 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 12:23.28 | SunTsu | PitBull... I once looked at it, looked into raid setup and was overwhelmed - after setting it up there was no space left on my screen |
| 12:23.43 | Towbar | play at 1680x1050 |
| 12:23.45 | Arcaia | Towbar: In regards to "you talk alot" welcome to the internet, and furthermore welcome to Internet Relay Chat. |
| 12:23.48 | Towbar | and you have alot of room |
| 12:23.51 | Punkie` | I use oUF, and honestly I really enjoy it |
| 12:24.03 | Punkie` | mainly because I learn from it, and code it into whatever I want |
| 12:24.10 | Towbar | arcaia I was probly using irc before you new what teh internet was |
| 12:24.15 | kenlyric | Towbar: can I see this complete abortion of a UI you have, so I can also make fun of it? |
| 12:24.31 | Grum | show me too |
| 12:24.32 | Arcaia | when did you start? |
| 12:24.36 | Towbar | kenlyric: ofc you can if you say why and back what you say |
| 12:24.40 | Arcaia | I'm curious |
| 12:24.53 | Towbar | '93 ish |
| 12:24.59 | Punkie` | http://tsni.biz/wow/lastest-sept.jpg <-- towbars ui |
| 12:25.02 | Towbar | 94 maybe |
| 12:25.10 | Towbar | in a raid with crappy new sound engine |
| 12:25.11 | Arcaia | K - what program did you use? |
| 12:25.12 | kenlyric | Most of your UI problems come about because you smell. |
| 12:25.17 | Towbar | bitchx |
| 12:25.18 | Arcaia | to connect, what network were you on |
| 12:25.20 | kenlyric | GLOBALCHAT! |
| 12:25.22 | Towbar | or iirc |
| 12:25.43 | Towbar | demon internet |
| 12:25.49 | Arcaia | rapier net? |
| 12:25.54 | Arcaia | or was that too early for you? |
| 12:25.56 | Towbar | l2read? |
| 12:26.03 | Punkie` | man, #wowace has reached a new low |
| 12:26.11 | Arcaia | im asking were you on rapier net? |
| 12:26.15 | [Ammo] | we need #wowace-chat |
| 12:26.17 | kenlyric | Towbar: i've seen far worse, though with that many buttons they could do be to smaller. |
| 12:26.25 | [Ammo] | and push all the irrelevant chatterboxes on there |
| 12:26.29 | Towbar | wtb razor blades |
| 12:26.29 | Grum | ~taser Towbar |
| 12:26.30 | purl | ACTION stuns Towbar with a taser, then drags Towbar out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 12:26.35 | Arcaia | ever been an IRCOp, ever ran a network? |
| 12:26.36 | kenlyric | the party frames are hilariously overblown. |
| 12:26.37 | Towbar | lol |
| 12:26.37 | Grum | Towbar: down the road .. not across |
| 12:26.42 | Arcaia | Ever programmed for a network |
| 12:26.46 | Arcaia | ever programmed at all? |
| 12:26.49 | Grum | Arcaia: your epeen is glowing! |
| 12:27.10 | Towbar | arcaia: have you read anything of what I have said in this channel? |
| 12:27.12 | Arcaia | ever had to vote on new raw codes to become standards? |
| 12:27.20 | Grum | Arcaia: you did? |
| 12:27.37 | kenlyric | so it's all Arcaia's fault. Get him! |
| 12:27.39 | Grum | YOU FUCKING @SSHAT .. WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT BETTER? |
| 12:27.40 | Arcaia | I, when I was a DAL oper in 96 =P |
| 12:27.42 | [Ammo] | my cluttered UI: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/legoporn.jpg |
| 12:27.50 | Crysli | LEGOPORN |
| 12:27.58 | [Ammo] | legoporn yes |
| 12:28.00 | kenlyric | wait, you're admitting to dalnet? |
| 12:28.03 | Towbar | omg hackerzlair crew! |
| 12:28.03 | Arcaia | [Ammo] yours is atleast organized clutter |
| 12:28.04 | Grum | Arcaia, stop rubbing your epeen pl0x ... we're not that intrested |
| 12:28.05 | [Ammo] | refers to the officerchat discussion :) |
| 12:28.09 | Arcaia | Towbar's is mindless placement. |
| 12:28.12 | Punkie` | OH MY GOD AMMO |
| 12:28.16 | Towbar | sigh |
| 12:28.17 | Punkie` | when did you start the internet |
| 12:28.22 | Punkie` | what irc client did you use |
| 12:28.26 | Punkie` | what was your first ISP |
| 12:28.27 | kenlyric | that's a gigantic text box. |
| 12:28.33 | [Ammo] | zomg |
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| 12:28.36 | Arcaia | prodigy actually >.> |
| 12:28.40 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: yup it is |
| 12:28.41 | kenlyric | I'm pretty sure that means you smell. |
| 12:28.44 | cncfanatics | hello people, could anyone do a small change in fb for me ? |
| 12:28.47 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: I smell bad |
| 12:28.47 | Punkie` | if you don't answer in 5 minutes i'll blow up your internet because I passed a code standard to do so |
| 12:28.48 | cncfanatics | I'm at school and can't svn |
| 12:28.49 | kenlyric | and also your children will be ugly |
| 12:29.00 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 12:29.10 | [Ammo] | my son is actually quite handsome thank you very much |
| 12:29.14 | Towbar | same |
| 12:29.25 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: you won't have to worry about it |
| 12:29.29 | kenlyric | unto the seventh generation |
| 12:29.29 | Crysli | I'm not at school. Should be though |
| 12:29.31 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/meesgoggles.jpg |
| 12:29.33 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:29.33 | Xinhuan | all US realms are down for 8 hour maintenance for patch 2.2.2 |
| 12:29.34 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 12:29.41 | Xinhuan | so they can update their addons after |
| 12:29.43 | kenlyric | hideous |
| 12:29.46 | [Ammo] | he's practicing mafia style! |
| 12:29.49 | kenlyric | like slug with sunglasses. |
| 12:29.53 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, 2.2.2 brings? |
| 12:30.02 | Xinhuan | it brings 13 new graveyards |
| 12:30.03 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: that's his mom's genes shining through |
| 12:30.06 | Xinhuan | and gnome goggles!!!! |
| 12:30.16 | Punkie` | btw |
| 12:30.18 | kenlyric | yeah, she's got pretty manly hands there too. |
| 12:30.18 | Punkie` | that baby |
| 12:30.24 | Punkie` | is the loudest damn baby in the world |
| 12:30.30 | [Ammo] | you love it punkie |
| 12:30.36 | Grum | [Ammo]: left top is Assesment? .. or ? |
| 12:30.39 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:30.42 | [Ammo] | Violation |
| 12:30.44 | Grum | ah k |
| 12:30.46 | Grum | same deal? |
| 12:30.54 | Punkie` | it came first iirc :P |
| 12:31.02 | harldephin | there's still something wrong with xloot's loot window frame size |
| 12:31.12 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: 1.4 KiB/s when idle? |
| 12:31.19 | Crysli | harldephin: I'm having no problems |
| 12:31.20 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: dunno |
| 12:31.29 | Punkie` | get an ATi card and an amd processor |
| 12:31.36 | [Ammo] | probaly high due to the buffing going on |
| 12:31.38 | Fisker-- | no Punkie` |
| 12:31.38 | Arcaia | Now excuse me I'm going to leave this channel with the hopes that when I return the idiocy that has befallen it has been either a) vanquished or has b) given up on life and hung themself with a ATA cable if it were possible to do so. [I suppose he could find away, if he keeps his idle claims going before long he'll be saying he invented the internets.] |
| 12:31.39 | *** part/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
| 12:31.39 | Fisker-- | NEVAR |
| 12:31.52 | Punkie` | lol |
| 12:31.52 | [Ammo] | woot |
| 12:31.53 | [Ammo] | one gone |
| 12:31.56 | [Ammo] | who's next? |
| 12:31.57 | kenlyric | hurrah! |
| 12:32.00 | Punkie` | Fisker--: |
| 12:32.03 | kenlyric | defeated! |
| 12:32.03 | Punkie` | lets get hime out |
| 12:32.15 | kenlyric | can we get towbar some sort of prize? |
| 12:32.37 | kenlyric | maybe some help with that fugly UI? |
| 12:32.39 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 12:32.44 | cncfanatics | wth is towbar ? |
| 12:32.45 | Towbar | lol |
| 12:32.54 | Fisker-- | you can't Punkie` |
| 12:32.57 | Grum | lol .. and he was an ircop? O.o .. he hasn't got the patience for something like that ;D |
| 12:33.00 | Fisker-- | impossible |
| 12:33.13 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.15 | [Ammo] | drat |
| 12:33.16 | Towbar | has anyone heard from arcaia, I think he may have cut himself.. |
| 12:33.22 | Fisker-- | i'm an ircop.. on my own network! |
| 12:33.30 | kenlyric | I op my pants |
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| 12:46.11 | Crysli | Punkie: Still hate me for posting that Bearforce1 link? |
| 12:46.20 | Punkie` | yup |
| 12:46.43 | *** join/#wowace Tranzik (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
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| 12:47.06 | Tranzik | oh heya nocts, i just got home from work, what you up to? |
| 12:47.21 | Nocts | Not much, finishing some tests on fb2 |
| 12:47.49 | Crysli | So Punkie, will ya ever be able to forgive me? *puppyeyes* |
| 12:47.49 | Grum | its working? |
| 12:47.49 | Tranzik | nice. love flexbar. goes well with my ui feel. |
| 12:47.52 | Punkie` | hmm |
| 12:47.54 | Tranzik | or yea... |
| 12:47.56 | Punkie` | if you blow me kisses! |
| 12:47.57 | Nocts | fb2 is working yes |
| 12:48.26 | Nocts | Got some questions for Arcaia though |
| 12:48.47 | Nocts | He had a killer idea for the parent layers |
| 12:48.48 | Tranzik | I don't think he's on, atleast not on IRC anyways. |
| 12:49.02 | Nocts | Damnit |
| 12:49.08 | Punkie` | woo |
| 12:49.15 | Tranzik | What did you need him for? |
| 12:49.19 | Punkie` | Arcaia just left btw |
| 12:49.26 | krka | i just read the first three words of that, and then i felt sick, and stopped readnig :(/ |
| 12:49.31 | krka | that's just wrong Crysli |
| 12:49.37 | Tranzik | Why did he leave? |
| 12:49.59 | Nocts | He usually lurks unless wowace takes a turn for an IQ drop |
| 12:50.22 | Tranzik | No shit. What happened this time? |
| 12:50.29 | Nocts | Fuck if I know |
| 12:50.35 | Tranzik | he's usually pretty levelheaded |
| 12:50.42 | Tranzik | Punkie`: who pissed him off? |
| 12:50.45 | Nocts | Cry scaring away our member again? |
| 12:50.47 | Towbar | i dont think he likes me |
| 12:51.01 | Nocts | Cry or arc? |
| 12:51.03 | Tranzik | Why would he not like you, he likes every semi-intelligible person. |
| 12:51.04 | Towbar | arc |
| 12:51.05 | Crysli | Towbar: Deep inside he does, he just hates your UI |
| 12:51.07 | Tranzik | what class? |
| 12:51.10 | Towbar | my UI offended him somewhat |
| 12:51.21 | Nocts | Well, everyone has different tastes. |
| 12:51.25 | Nocts | Link? |
| 12:51.28 | Tranzik | what class - link? |
| 12:51.37 | Gngsk | DON'T DO IT! |
| 12:51.42 | Punkie` | haha |
| 12:51.47 | Punkie` | let's not start this again ^_^ |
| 12:51.55 | Tranzik | hell man, my ui is just random as hell anyways. |
| 12:52.13 | Nocts | So your ui tastes offended him so much that he left irc? |
| 12:52.14 | Tranzik | I'd take a screen, but servers are down and I cleaned out my folders earlier this week [after the patch] |
| 12:52.33 | Nocts | That doesn't sound like Arc. |
| 12:52.40 | Nocts | Did you two throw fistcuffs? |
| 12:52.44 | Towbar | that and I challenged his challenges to me |
| 12:53.07 | Nocts | Uh. |
| 12:53.11 | Nocts | Okay, explain that one. |
| 12:53.12 | Towbar | he kept saying things without backing anything up throwing random insinuations and calling me a liar, so I didnt back down |
| 12:53.18 | Tranzik | now i'm really curious |
| 12:53.22 | Tranzik | all this over a UI? |
| 12:53.27 | Nocts | ^ |
| 12:53.31 | Towbar | kek |
| 12:53.44 | Tranzik | if anything Arc gives criticism before cynicism. |
| 12:53.53 | Punkie` | anyway |
| 12:53.54 | Punkie` | shh |
| 12:53.59 | Towbar | agree |
| 12:54.02 | Punkie` | make fun of ammo |
| 12:54.07 | Towbar | cant |
| 12:54.12 | Tranzik | towbar - serious - linkie |
| 12:54.13 | Punkie` | he's a 70 warlock and he still has autoattack on button 1 |
| 12:54.14 | Towbar | his toon names are too cool |
| 12:54.29 | Ellipsis | lol srs Punkie`? |
| 12:54.38 | Punkie` | yup |
| 12:54.47 | Towbar | lol punkie |
| 12:54.48 | Ellipsis | now that's worthy of mocking |
| 12:54.58 | Tranzik | Towbar -> Link |
| 12:54.58 | Ellipsis | even I only had that til level 60 |
| 12:54.59 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:55.02 | Towbar | maybe its for the mobs before shade in kara that are magic immune? |
| 12:55.03 | Tranzik | Quit holdin' back ;P |
| 12:55.13 | Nocts | What was his beef about your ui? |
| 12:55.32 | Tranzik | Me and Nocts, as developers - HAVE TO KNOW. |
| 12:55.36 | Tranzik | linky. |
| 12:55.40 | Towbar | you can ask him next time he logs on |
| 12:55.44 | Towbar | he never said why |
| 12:55.55 | Nocts | Well there you go. |
| 12:55.55 | Towbar | jsut said that it made him want to cut himself or something |
| 12:56.00 | Nocts | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 12:56.12 | Tranzik | That doesn't sound like Arc at all |
| 12:56.17 | Tranzik | Now you're bs-ing us >.> |
| 12:56.21 | Towbar | :P |
| 12:56.24 | Nocts | Actually, I've heard Arc bounce around like that. |
| 12:56.25 | Towbar | ~emo |
| 12:56.26 | purl | /wrists |
| 12:56.33 | deltron | laff |
| 12:56.35 | Elkano | anyone using ItemDB? |
| 12:56.39 | Towbar | yup |
| 12:56.58 | Towbar | elkano, as in elk buff bars/ |
| 12:57.00 | Towbar | ? |
| 12:57.15 | deltron | he's just a fan ;) |
| 12:57.18 | Towbar | kk |
| 12:58.19 | Elkano | I was thinking about adding the ability to filter based on ItemBonusLib (or rather I have done that before...) but it will eat up tons of memory with ItemBonusLib having to scan and cahce tons of tooltips... |
| 12:58.23 | Towbar | who makes elkbuffbars? |
| 12:58.39 | Elkano | ~whalestab deltron |
| 12:58.40 | purl | ACTION stabs deltron with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 12:58.55 | deltron | thank you sir, may I have another |
| 12:59.04 | Nocts | ~rape Towbar |
| 12:59.05 | purl | How DARE you think such a thing, nocts?! Shame on you! |
| 12:59.08 | Elkano | ~whalenametheft deltron |
| 12:59.09 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks deltron's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 12:59.12 | Nocts | ~fail Purl |
| 12:59.12 | purl | Purl: Fail. |
| 12:59.39 | Elkano | Towbar: it's me |
| 12:59.56 | Towbar | if it is then GJ :) |
| 13:00.07 | Towbar | love them ever since i went to photek |
| 13:00.27 | Punkie` | i need more love |
| 13:00.29 | Towbar | and started using his UI and pestered photek for days :) |
| 13:00.31 | Punkie` | ~poke Crysli |
| 13:00.31 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Crysli, pokes Crysli repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 13:00.40 | Tranzik | I can honestly say Elk buff bars didnt suit me >.< I tried them, just didn't stick |
| 13:00.41 | Towbar | punkie what addons do you make? |
| 13:00.48 | Nocts | tbh, the end ui of all end uis should be alt+z |
| 13:00.49 | Ellipsis | but EBB does everything o.O |
| 13:01.03 | Nocts | Use your brain and start memorizing timings, buttons, and listening to sounds. |
| 13:01.05 | Punkie` | I've made some personal ones, but only released 1 raiding tool :P |
| 13:01.06 | Elkano | Tranzik, the old ones aka 1.x or the new ones aka 2.x? |
| 13:01.07 | Ellipsis | you can do bar-less buffs, you can track all your dots and CCs... |
| 13:01.21 | kenlyric | I didn't understand the joy of EBB until I made a set of pet buff bars. |
| 13:01.38 | Nocts | See, buff bars never made sense to me. |
| 13:01.40 | Tranzik | i suppose it was the old ones, they were severely underequipped for my flavor. |
| 13:01.45 | Nocts | That takes up far more real estate than it needs. |
| 13:02.00 | Crysli | Punkie: You won't get more love right now. |
| 13:02.03 | Punkie` | :( |
| 13:02.09 | Elkano | well, then check on current version :) they now have tons of options to customize them |
| 13:02.14 | Nocts | Cry = Male in real life |
| 13:02.22 | Punkie` | everyones male on the internet |
| 13:02.28 | Xinhuan | dammit PTR servers getting shutdown too |
| 13:02.42 | Xinhuan | no live realms, no PTR |
| 13:02.46 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:02.46 | Xinhuan | halp! |
| 13:02.50 | Nocts | Get your own server. |
| 13:02.51 | Gngsk | withdrawl inc |
| 13:02.56 | Punkie` | :o |
| 13:02.57 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: resort to EU! |
| 13:02.58 | Elkano | Xinhuan, but they'll most likely be updated to 2.3 soon :) |
| 13:03.10 | Xinhuan | better hope not |
| 13:03.19 | Xinhuan | 2.3 has a heap of changes that require me to udate my addons |
| 13:03.21 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 13:03.22 | Nocts | I'm excited. |
| 13:03.24 | Xinhuan | update |
| 13:03.28 | Nocts | Blind no longer requires a regeant. |
| 13:03.34 | Tranzik | I'm still curious how the hell someone made Arciaa leave... |
| 13:03.36 | Nocts | SUCK IT herb overpricers. |
| 13:03.39 | Tranzik | Arcaia** |
| 13:03.39 | Towbar | finally |
| 13:03.47 | Towbar | fadeleaf prices on my server are a joke |
| 13:03.50 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50649 10AtlasLoot/Constants/ (constants.de.lua constants.fr.lua constants.kr.lua): |
| 13:03.50 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:03.50 | CIA-12 | - Code cleanup |
| 13:04.05 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (i=Mech0z@d40ae5d9.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 13:04.06 | Towbar | and I never grind for gold, more of a crafter |
| 13:04.08 | Elkano | but I hope they'll be fast with patching in EU tomorrow... it's official holiday... |
| 13:04.13 | Towbar | so I cannot pick pocket it |
| 13:04.28 | Punkie` | you can't pickpocket it? |
| 13:04.34 | Towbar | you can |
| 13:04.39 | Punkie` | i know you can |
| 13:04.40 | Towbar | but I rarely get teh chance |
| 13:04.43 | Punkie` | but you can't? :P |
| 13:04.47 | Towbar | i craft stuff for gold |
| 13:04.50 | Towbar | or AH farm |
| 13:05.00 | Crysli | Ah Farming is awesome fun |
| 13:05.03 | Punkie` | i just had a shit load from levelling tbh |
| 13:05.04 | Towbar | indeed |
| 13:05.09 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 13:05.12 | Towbar | i had epic mount gold pre tbc |
| 13:05.15 | cryogen | Elkano: it is? |
| 13:05.30 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 13:05.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 13:05.36 | Towbar | tailor / LW with self obtained revered TB rep and full CC rep so i made a bit on res gear |
| 13:06.04 | *** part/#wowace Tinhay (n=Tinhay@85.127.55.236) |
| 13:06.16 | Elkano | cryogen, at least in one counry, yes |
| 13:06.42 | Punkie` | i got the gold for my epic flyer during levelling really |
| 13:06.45 | kenlyric | "self obtained"? |
| 13:06.47 | kenlyric | what does that mean? |
| 13:06.53 | Crysli | Not a holiday where I am. |
| 13:06.53 | Towbar | bought all the rep items |
| 13:06.54 | kenlyric | how else do you get TB rep? |
| 13:06.58 | Punkie` | now i have it, gold is pretty much unneeded except for flasks :P |
| 13:07.00 | Towbar | didnt use guild bank cores etc |
| 13:07.11 | kenlyric | oh, thorium brotherhood. |
| 13:07.26 | Towbar | handing in 160 core leather at 12g a pop wasnt exactly cheap |
| 13:07.27 | kenlyric | for some reason TB makes me thinking of timbermaw, even though it really shouldn't |
| 13:07.29 | cryogen | not a holiday here either |
| 13:07.31 | cryogen | just a lame companty meeting |
| 13:07.33 | Towbar | ahhh :) |
| 13:07.38 | cryogen | that i have to travel too |
| 13:07.42 | Crysli | Tapestry makes me sad. |
| 13:07.51 | Punkie` | how come? |
| 13:09.00 | Elkano | Crysli, move one country to the south then ;) |
| 13:09.04 | Crysli | Because he/she makes me wanna make my UI cool, but I just can't play with a UI like that. Referring to this by the way - http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8579/wowscrnshot092207235025la7.jpg |
| 13:09.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 13:09.23 | Crysli | Elkano, Germany is no fun. |
| 13:09.24 | Nocts | So much good in that UI, and so much eyestrain |
| 13:09.32 | Punkie` | indeed |
| 13:09.40 | Crysli | Yup |
| 13:09.48 | kenlyric | that font is pretty and unreadable. |
| 13:09.52 | Towbar | thats a really easy UI to make |
| 13:09.54 | Punkie` | it's taking forever to load, is it the one with the squared fonts? |
| 13:10.03 | *** join/#wowace HarrisonF (n=Harrison@cpe-24-24-87-124.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 13:10.06 | Crysli | Punkie: Yes it is |
| 13:10.29 | Punkie` | meh, I disklike fonts that takes more than a glance to read properly :P |
| 13:11.09 | Towbar | I use skurri for msot |
| 13:11.09 | Crysli | Was more thinking of the UI itself than of the font. But meh, minimal is the way for me. I'll just have to live with that :p |
| 13:11.12 | Towbar | most* |
| 13:11.19 | Punkie` | the unitframe looks nice though |
| 13:11.48 | Crysli | They're pretty |
| 13:12.08 | Towbar | yea they look awesome |
| 13:12.39 | kenlyric | the ad that links to this site makes me fell liked a pedo http://top.igg.com/ |
| 13:12.44 | Punkie` | I think it looks better because he's a draneai |
| 13:12.54 | Punkie` | if it was like, an ugly elf it would be horrible |
| 13:12.55 | Elkano | Crysli, could be worse... could be France... |
| 13:13.13 | Crysli | Agreed, Punkie. Don't think it'll look as good with a Dwarf. |
| 13:13.17 | Towbar | I dont think I could go back to one chat window, and I wonder does he use eavesdrop hidden somewhere for combat log/ |
| 13:14.10 | Towbar | and I wish I could get away with only 24 action buttons in a raid |
| 13:14.27 | Tranzik | Elkano: where do I get the new EBB2? or what not? |
| 13:14.39 | kenlyric | where's eating and driniking and the three healthstones? |
| 13:15.16 | Crysli | kenlyric: to the right |
| 13:15.26 | kenlyric | victory! |
| 13:16.28 | Elkano | Tranzik, via WAU or files.wowace.com |
| 13:18.31 | Towbar | ~WAU |
| 13:18.32 | purl | rumour has it, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 13:18.34 | Crysli | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8823/january002xa6.jpg - I shamelessly post this again with the question: Will this be hard to level with? |
| 13:18.39 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.09 | Towbar | thats one minamilist UI |
| 13:19.26 | Ellipsis | not really |
| 13:19.32 | Ellipsis | showing gold there when it's in your inventory :/ |
| 13:19.52 | Towbar | keep all my gold on a bank alt in IF :) |
| 13:19.56 | Mech0z | Any fix to the mods "forgetting" their potition for some people (For me it was antagonist and proximo) |
| 13:20.11 | Crysli | Ellipsis: What can I say - I'm a whore for money :D |
| 13:20.12 | Towbar | that way I have to relog to spend it, and I can farm the AH while on sitout or whatever, nice way to save gold :) |
| 13:20.16 | Crysli | Wait... That sounded wrong. |
| 13:20.21 | kenlyric | that's a bad idea. |
| 13:20.33 | kenlyric | unless the bank alt is of high enough level. |
| 13:20.51 | Towbar | high enough level for what? |
| 13:20.57 | Towbar | trading etc? |
| 13:21.05 | Punkie` | Mech0z: I do not have that problem |
| 13:21.06 | kenlyric | for blizzard to care about restoring him :) |
| 13:21.13 | Towbar | hmm |
| 13:21.17 | Mech0z | Punkie`, No its not everybody for some reason |
| 13:21.17 | *** part/#wowace Tranzik (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
| 13:21.18 | Elkano | Crysli, that UI uses EBB so most likely not ;) |
| 13:21.23 | Mech0z | but I have heard of others having it as well |
| 13:21.37 | Punkie` | hmm, crazy :) |
| 13:21.40 | Towbar | so its not a good idea to keep 15k on a lvl 1 char incase I get hacked? |
| 13:21.41 | Mech0z | But the thing that its not everyone makes it hard to address I guess |
| 13:21.46 | kenlyric | Towbar: exactly |
| 13:21.50 | Punkie` | erm |
| 13:21.52 | Punkie` | if you get hacked |
| 13:21.56 | Punkie` | your money is going anyway |
| 13:21.58 | kenlyric | you should keep your gold and your very valuable items on your highest level chars. |
| 13:21.59 | Towbar | they dont replace gold.. |
| 13:22.08 | Punkie` | regardless if it's on one character or several |
| 13:22.16 | the-golem | holy crap Crysli |
| 13:22.23 | Towbar | on my old server ( i moved recently) i had 5 banks for items and gold |
| 13:22.40 | Towbar | but on new server I only have one because I want less stock items |
| 13:22.49 | Punkie` | Crysli: What font is that, by the way? |
| 13:22.54 | the-golem | thats *really* minimal |
| 13:22.58 | the-golem | but its nice |
| 13:23.16 | Crysli | Punkie: It's Insomniax. I did a school paper with it the other day - my teacher was pretty pissed :p |
| 13:23.30 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 13:23.46 | Punkie` | I remember when windows 98 came into schools |
| 13:23.54 | Punkie` | everyones papers were in Comic Sans MS |
| 13:23.56 | Towbar | crysli: rofl |
| 13:24.04 | Towbar | comic sans... grr |
| 13:24.08 | Crysli | Punkie: That must've been hell |
| 13:24.13 | Towbar | I cannot believe I actually "hate" a font |
| 13:24.18 | Punkie` | yeah, funny though :P |
| 13:24.21 | Ellipsis | www.bancomicsans.com |
| 13:24.27 | Towbar | ! |
| 13:24.32 | Ellipsis | . |
| 13:24.43 | Mech0z | Punkie`, this bug http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg144496#msg144496 |
| 13:24.49 | Towbar | serously debating buying that teeshirt |
| 13:24.53 | Punkie` | weird, I don't have it :) |
| 13:24.56 | Mech0z | and this http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6930.msg142990#msg142990 |
| 13:25.03 | Mech0z | so I am not the only one |
| 13:25.06 | Towbar | or the hat maybe |
| 13:25.08 | Punkie` | Towbar: Btw, if you are a raidleader - you should try my addon ^_^ |
| 13:25.09 | Mech0z | think it has something to do with rock |
| 13:25.16 | Mech0z | and some change in 2.2 |
| 13:25.20 | Towbar | punkie what adon? |
| 13:25.22 | Towbar | addon* |
| 13:25.32 | Punkie` | Demon |
| 13:25.38 | Towbar | what does it do? |
| 13:25.41 | Mech0z | Whats does demon do |
| 13:25.51 | Punkie` | You can add 'valuable' debuffs to a list |
| 13:25.59 | Punkie` | so they will be red, if in active and green if active |
| 13:26.07 | Punkie` | and you can yell at people if they dont put them up |
| 13:26.17 | Punkie` | like CoE, CoS, TC, DS etc |
| 13:26.21 | Towbar | ie GBoS for me? |
| 13:26.31 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 13:26.32 | *** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 13:26.37 | Towbar | mob debuffs |
| 13:26.42 | Punkie` | yup |
| 13:26.42 | Towbar | that sounds nice |
| 13:26.47 | Punkie` | but you can add whatever you like |
| 13:26.55 | Towbar | like CoE for kiting striders etc at vashj? |
| 13:27.00 | Punkie` | yup |
| 13:27.02 | Towbar | COEx |
| 13:27.08 | Towbar | thats nice |
| 13:27.22 | Punkie` | Fisker--: so, you love my addon right?! |
| 13:27.24 | Towbar | so you set the debuffs that muct be up on all mobs or individual? |
| 13:27.36 | Towbar | must* |
| 13:27.37 | Punkie` | just your target / focus |
| 13:27.52 | Towbar | one lsit for all? |
| 13:27.56 | Towbar | list* |
| 13:28.09 | Towbar | seriously i need new fingers, they al got broke when I was younger.. |
| 13:28.23 | Crysli | Towbar: You should totally become a cyborg |
| 13:28.26 | Punkie` | yeah, though, you should try it out to better understand what I mean |
| 13:28.29 | Mech0z | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7801.msg136214#msg136214 possible fix to my problem |
| 13:28.39 | Towbar | as a cyborg I would fit right in perfectly here in northern ireland |
| 13:28.46 | Mech0z | but apparantly its not on the SVN yet so I guess the guys making mods wont use it :( |
| 13:29.22 | Crysli | Best decicion I ever made: Choosing not to play on Ravencrest. |
| 13:29.31 | Crysli | Decision* |
| 13:29.37 | Fisker-- | what addon is that Punkie` ? |
| 13:29.45 | Towbar | Best decission I ever made: choosing not to play on Haomarush |
| 13:30.09 | Towbar | punkie, whats the memory usuage, cause I go all EMO if I peak 25 mb usuage |
| 13:30.23 | cryogen | (twice in two days, whats all this fuss about haomarush?) |
| 13:30.24 | Ellipsis | Towbar - lolwut? |
| 13:30.28 | the-golem | lol |
| 13:30.37 | kenlyric | man, I'd cream myself if I dropped to 25 |
| 13:30.38 | the-golem | Towbar emo, thatd be funny ^^ |
| 13:30.42 | Towbar | :) |
| 13:30.52 | Towbar | my usuage is 54mb when i login |
| 13:31.08 | Towbar | if i forget to reset recount |
| 13:31.14 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
| 13:31.19 | Punkie` | Towbar: excluding libs... |
| 13:31.20 | Towbar | but recount is SO f'ing AWESOME |
| 13:31.21 | Punkie` | 15KiB |
| 13:31.23 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 13:31.27 | Arcaia | he's still here. |
| 13:31.28 | Fisker-- | what addon is that Punkie` ? |
| 13:31.28 | *** part/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
| 13:31.29 | Fisker-- | what addon is that Punkie` ? |
| 13:31.30 | Towbar | seriously imba addon |
| 13:31.39 | Punkie` | Fisker--: suck me! |
| 13:31.46 | Towbar | |
| 13:31.48 | Towbar | <Punkie`> Demon |
| 13:31.51 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: what is it with libs? |
| 13:31.57 | Crysli | Punkie really needs some love, it seems. |
| 13:32.12 | Punkie` | 150 or so, but that's basically Ace2 and a few other bits |
| 13:32.22 | Fisker-- | now seriously before i has a bus to catch mr. Punkie` |
| 13:32.27 | kenlyric | I have 268 folders |
| 13:32.27 | Towbar | punkie I dont know if I can spare that much RAM in this day and age, what with windows wasting 1.4 gig of it already with filecache... |
| 13:32.40 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 13:32.45 | Industrial | BIG PINK DILDO |
| 13:32.46 | Towbar | </sarcasm> |
| 13:32.49 | Industrial | er, I mean, hi. |
| 13:32.54 | Ellipsis | <3 Industrial |
| 13:33.06 | Industrial | =D |
| 13:33.09 | Fisker-- | NO |
| 13:33.11 | Fisker-- | PUNKIE |
| 13:33.13 | Fisker-- | ADDON NAME NOW |
| 13:33.16 | Fisker-- | OR BIG PINK DILDO |
| 13:33.16 | Punkie` | Demon! |
| 13:33.22 | Fisker-- | Wuts it's doin? |
| 13:33.27 | Punkie` | magic stuffs |
| 13:33.28 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I has a forever fortress btw |
| 13:33.29 | Industrial | urmom |
| 13:33.31 | Towbar | 216 here, but, pitbull and atlas etc take up alot |
| 13:33.33 | Industrial | ~rimsho |
| 13:33.34 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 13:33.34 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 13:33.35 | Fisker-- | lololol |
| 13:33.45 | Towbar | gwigs for pve and dbm for pvp |
| 13:33.48 | Industrial | Ellipsis: yay cool wanna play? |
| 13:33.48 | Fisker-- | i hate it Punkie` |
| 13:33.49 | kenlyric | and having libcrayon and crayonlib! |
| 13:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ramshot |
| 13:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 13:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 13:33.56 | Fisker-- | it's no fubar plugin for handling gm tickets |
| 13:33.57 | kenlyric | lol |
| 13:33.59 | Fisker-- | and as such i hate it |
| 13:34.01 | kenlyric | ramshot needs to be added |
| 13:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 13:34.13 | Ellipsis | Industrial: sure but I'm gonna have a ping worse than your mom's |
| 13:34.30 | Ellipsis | I is on the wrong side of an ocean =[ |
| 13:34.36 | Industrial | arr |
| 13:34.36 | Fisker-- | PUNKIE I HATE YOUR ADDON |
| 13:34.40 | Fisker-- | make GM TICKET ADDON PLX |
| 13:34.42 | Punkie` | good, btw |
| 13:34.42 | kenlyric | oops forgot to delete cooldowncount |
| 13:34.43 | Industrial | but im downloading atm so ill have big ping too |
| 13:34.44 | sag_ich_nicht | location confirmed |
| 13:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | sending supplies |
| 13:34.49 | Punkie` | it has an antifisker loading |
| 13:35.03 | Fisker-- | fucking awesome then |
| 13:35.28 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r50650 10Grid/TrackThePets/core.lua: Grid: (branch) TrackThePets, bugfix |
| 13:35.40 | Punkie` | Fisker--: i just made a addon for you |
| 13:35.46 | Punkie` | for the gm tickets |
| 13:35.55 | Fisker-- | oh u |
| 13:35.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` |
| 13:35.59 | Punkie` | type /gm |
| 13:36.01 | Fisker-- | you shouldn't have |
| 13:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:36.05 | Punkie` | you don't even need to install it |
| 13:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` BUT THAT'S AN ACE2 FUNCTION D: |
| 13:36.17 | Fisker-- | yes i do |
| 13:36.20 | Fisker-- | ^^ |
| 13:36.21 | Punkie` | sag_ich_nicht: :D |
| 13:36.24 | Fisker-- | AND THATS NOT WHAT I NEED |
| 13:36.25 | Fisker-- | PUNKTARD |
| 13:36.31 | Towbar | wts capslock keys |
| 13:36.34 | sag_ich_nicht | while you're making addons Punkie` |
| 13:36.43 | Fisker-- | i sure as hell coined that term |
| 13:36.50 | Fisker-- | Towbar don't need one |
| 13:36.54 | Towbar | :) |
| 13:37.01 | sag_ich_nicht | make one that removes the whitespace in front of itemlinks |
| 13:37.03 | Towbar | anyone here who played on EU haomarush? |
| 13:37.03 | Punkie` | i made HulkHoganVsTheRock but ckknight deleted it :( |
| 13:37.07 | sag_ich_nicht | when you create one |
| 13:37.12 | Towbar | lol punkie |
| 13:37.21 | *** join/#wowace cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:37.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie`: he deleted it when the feature was integrated into rock |
| 13:37.26 | Punkie` | i know |
| 13:37.27 | Punkie` | :P |
| 13:37.34 | Fisker-- | what did it do? |
| 13:37.36 | sag_ich_nicht | now make my whitespace killer D: |
| 13:37.38 | Punkie` | hid the rock button |
| 13:37.42 | Towbar | lol |
| 13:37.44 | Fisker-- | :( |
| 13:37.54 | cryogen | Towbar: still do |
| 13:37.54 | Fisker-- | i'm going to the bus |
| 13:37.57 | Fisker-- | and remember Punkie` |
| 13:37.58 | Industrial | Ellipsis: 88.198.138.66:27015 |
| 13:38.01 | Fisker-- | whatever happens, i still hate you |
| 13:38.02 | Industrial | Fisker--: 88.198.138.66:27015 |
| 13:38.04 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 13:38.04 | Ellipsis | I'm omw Industrial |
| 13:38.07 | sag_ich_nicht | is that TS |
| 13:38.08 | sag_ich_nicht | or vent |
| 13:38.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 13:38.12 | Ellipsis | neither |
| 13:38.16 | Industrial | fortress forever |
| 13:38.16 | kenlyric | woo! now I have three non-ace mods. I'm like a rebel! |
| 13:38.18 | Industrial | gogo |
| 13:38.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lol fortress |
| 13:38.27 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: me vs all you. |
| 13:38.28 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric suicide |
| 13:38.36 | Punkie` | kenlyric: oh my... get out of this channel |
| 13:38.37 | Crysli | kenlyric makes all of us sad |
| 13:38.39 | Fisker-- | bye punkie |
| 13:38.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: that'd be unfair... for everyone but me. |
| 13:38.43 | Punkie` | you're no longer a full fanboi |
| 13:38.43 | Fisker-- | i hate you forever |
| 13:38.46 | Punkie` | like fisker |
| 13:38.47 | Crysli | we no like rebels |
| 13:38.49 | Punkie` | by fiskie! |
| 13:38.49 | kenlyric | well, i guess three non-wowace mods, cause, well, Rock. |
| 13:39.17 | kenlyric | I wonder what other clearly inferior ace mods I'm using. |
| 13:39.23 | Crysli | HA I knew Fisker was Danish |
| 13:39.29 | Towbar | very few non ace addons left now... ATSW, DBM (for pvp), poison pouch, auctioneer, CT core, CT mail mod and thats it |
| 13:39.43 | [Ammo] | get capping for pvp |
| 13:39.48 | kenlyric | atsw? |
| 13:39.49 | Towbar | same thing? |
| 13:39.52 | [Ammo] | beats dbm left and right |
| 13:39.56 | Towbar | Advanced Trade Skill Window |
| 13:39.57 | kenlyric | atsw is still around? |
| 13:40.00 | Crysli | I use Dash - 'tis awesome |
| 13:40.01 | kenlyric | neat. |
| 13:40.06 | haste | my list of non-ace mods are pretty long D: |
| 13:40.07 | kenlyric | I remember liking that when I had tradeskills. |
| 13:40.07 | Towbar | atsw owns |
| 13:40.19 | Punkie` | btw, can you actually change those bars on DBM? |
| 13:40.22 | cryogen | Towbar: why do you ask? :) |
| 13:40.28 | Punkie` | they're fucking wide as hell :P |
| 13:40.33 | Towbar | since i got cutup or hemlock its not so needed, but still nice |
| 13:40.34 | Xinhuan | you don't even need to run CT_Core in order to run CT_Mailmod |
| 13:40.39 | Xinhuan | why do you run ct_core? |
| 13:40.40 | chexsum | postal might replace mailmod ? |
| 13:40.47 | Towbar | i want CT core for autoblock trades at bank |
| 13:40.48 | kenlyric | bulkmail > * |
| 13:41.02 | Towbar | and CT mail mod for autoblock trades at mail , and alt left click adding |
| 13:41.03 | chexsum | i ripped that code out of ctmmod |
| 13:41.06 | Xinhuan | Towbar: Postal + AltClickToAdd replaces Ct_Mail ;p |
| 13:41.12 | haste | ExpressMail+PriorityMail > * ;3 |
| 13:41.14 | *** join/#wowace charon_ (n=thomas@vpn-global-027-dhcp.ethz.ch) |
| 13:41.15 | Towbar | i have postal too |
| 13:41.16 | *** join/#wowace Tinhay (n=Tinhay@85.127.55.236) |
| 13:41.23 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: seriously though, me vs all you. |
| 13:41.25 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:41.32 | charon_ | afternoon |
| 13:41.36 | Xinhuan | postal blocks trades at the bank i think? |
| 13:41.39 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 13:41.40 | Ellipsis | freaking updates |
| 13:41.41 | Xinhuan | if you turn it on |
| 13:41.42 | Ellipsis | who does that |
| 13:41.53 | Ellipsis | software should be fine without requiring patches tbh |
| 13:41.58 | Towbar | but the auto block at bank and mail is totally needed as a rogue when IGNORANT ggits trade you a lockbox then you have a 10% chance of being asked to open |
| 13:42.03 | chexsum | ive never looked at postals otions :\ |
| 13:42.15 | *** join/#wowace TE|AFKulaar (n=182Kulaa@p5B155FC3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:42.23 | Punkie` | Towbar: haha, know the feeling |
| 13:42.25 | Xinhuan | well i'm fairly certain the option is there |
| 13:42.39 | kenlyric | as long as the lockbox isn't in the do not trade window, what's the problem? |
| 13:42.42 | kenlyric | free lockbox! |
| 13:42.48 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 13:42.50 | Crysli | I was thinking the same thing |
| 13:43.04 | Ellipsis | and if it is |
| 13:43.05 | Towbar | morals? |
| 13:43.08 | Ellipsis | wait for them to put up cash |
| 13:43.11 | Ellipsis | then click accept |
| 13:43.12 | kenlyric | hey |
| 13:43.17 | Ellipsis | and hope they don't notice you didn't actually pick it |
| 13:43.17 | Towbar | i open free for anyone that asks |
| 13:43.17 | TNSe | !2v2 1940 |
| 13:43.20 | kenlyric | they already shot that out the window by opening an unrequested trade. |
| 13:43.22 | Towbar | asking being the key term there |
| 13:43.34 | kenlyric | I have no trouble fleecing those people |
| 13:43.34 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (i=Dotted@bureaucrat.wowwiki.dk) |
| 13:43.49 | chexsum | i rippe buystack, block trades and questlog-levels from ctmod |
| 13:43.54 | Ellipsis | if I really need a lockbox opened and I see a rogue jumping around looking bored, I send a tell asking politely |
| 13:43.56 | Towbar | I would get a gkick for ripping someone off |
| 13:44.01 | Towbar | and rightly so |
| 13:44.05 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 13:44.05 | Ellipsis | walking up to someone and opening a trade window = wtfdumb |
| 13:44.05 | chexsum | all the good bits |
| 13:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | US realms patching today Y/N? |
| 13:44.17 | Towbar | and since I am in the top ally guild on server I am not gonna do that |
| 13:44.20 | kenlyric | you're not ripping someone off if they trade it to you without asking. |
| 13:44.23 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: y |
| 13:44.26 | Towbar | yea but still |
| 13:44.28 | kenlyric | assholes don't deserve sympathy. |
| 13:44.32 | sag_ich_nicht | excellent. |
| 13:44.36 | Towbar | how about jsut ask me if you want it opened |
| 13:44.38 | kenlyric | be happy you don't hunt them down and kill their pets. |
| 13:44.42 | TNSe | !help |
| 13:44.43 | MrUseful | I offer the following commands: !event (Calendarsearch) - manual: http://fireglow.de/wowbot.html |
| 13:44.45 | Towbar | else i move to mailbox or AH |
| 13:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: 2.2/2.2.2 diff up yet? |
| 13:44.49 | Towbar | and open it |
| 13:45.12 | ramoz | eew |
| 13:45.17 | ramoz | new font in wau |
| 13:45.25 | sag_ich_nicht | oh geez cry more noob |
| 13:45.31 | cryogen | Towbar: did you move away from haomarush? |
| 13:45.33 | Towbar | if its comic sans i will /wrists |
| 13:45.36 | Ellipsis | OHGOD WHY |
| 13:45.39 | kenlyric | wingdings |
| 13:45.43 | Towbar | cryogen: yes |
| 13:45.45 | Ellipsis | make it stop |
| 13:45.46 | cryogen | smart move |
| 13:45.47 | cryogen | why? |
| 13:45.47 | Towbar | you horde side? |
| 13:45.49 | ramoz | ALSO |
| 13:45.50 | cryogen | and where to? |
| 13:45.50 | kenlyric | my wau isn't update... fail? |
| 13:45.50 | cryogen | yes |
| 13:45.54 | Towbar | dead server with no progress |
| 13:45.58 | Towbar | you a lock? |
| 13:46.00 | ramoz | wau wont save when i change dir? |
| 13:46.01 | cryogen | nope |
| 13:46.02 | Towbar | or a SP? |
| 13:46.04 | cryogen | yup |
| 13:46.08 | Towbar | yea i know ya :) |
| 13:46.14 | Towbar | pwnd ya a few times :) |
| 13:46.20 | Towbar | hahah |
| 13:46.21 | QuantumDelta | (14:45:59) (kenlyric) wingdings <- Brilliant Sir. |
| 13:46.22 | cryogen | then you have me at an advantage |
| 13:46.24 | kenlyric | ramoz: you have to type in the directory manually and hit enter. Then it'll work |
| 13:46.27 | Towbar | ok then here we go |
| 13:46.31 | Towbar | i am Thriemus |
| 13:46.38 | Ellipsis | Industrial: tweaking graphics settings, how hard will this be on my GPU? |
| 13:46.40 | ramoz | kenlyric: i closed it now |
| 13:46.44 | Ellipsis | relative to HL2/CS:S |
| 13:46.45 | cryogen | hmm |
| 13:46.48 | cryogen | doesnt ring a bell :p |
| 13:46.51 | Towbar | lies |
| 13:46.53 | Towbar | :P |
| 13:47.03 | Towbar | remember the exiled phazer thread? |
| 13:47.04 | cryogen | this isnt my haomarush char's name though |
| 13:47.08 | cryogen | yes :p |
| 13:47.16 | Towbar | <-- c'est moi |
| 13:47.18 | Crysli | I need to get a better computer. Without any addons it takes about 30 seconds to log in. |
| 13:47.20 | Industrial | Ellipsis: depends on the gpu :D? I have a geforce 7900GT and im FINE more then FINE actually |
| 13:47.22 | cryogen | haomarush realm forums were oh so retarded |
| 13:47.25 | Towbar | that was SO funny |
| 13:47.31 | Towbar | yea agree |
| 13:47.33 | cryogen | but at least the server was active then |
| 13:47.38 | QuantumDelta | Were? :P |
| 13:47.40 | kenlyric | there's a new font? I dun see it. |
| 13:47.46 | Towbar | i hear that jotun is falling apart / disbanding :(( |
| 13:47.51 | cryogen | is it? |
| 13:47.52 | QuantumDelta | you mean all the chain rerollers ran away?! |
| 13:47.54 | Towbar | check forums |
| 13:47.57 | kenlyric | fuck, i have to go to kentucky for 3 days :/ |
| 13:48.00 | QuantumDelta | You're surprised why? :P |
| 13:48.00 | cryogen | hmm |
| 13:48.04 | Towbar | ppl are all saying emo goodbyes and stuff |
| 13:48.10 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp27.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 13:48.12 | Towbar | and a GMOTD of "THE END" |
| 13:48.20 | Towbar | screened and posted on realm forums |
| 13:48.26 | Ellipsis | Industrial: do you promise not to laugh while explaining the absolute basics to me? |
| 13:48.34 | Ellipsis | I've never played TF |
| 13:48.36 | Industrial | ofcourse |
| 13:48.46 | Industrial | I've helped many with tf |
| 13:48.53 | QuantumDelta | Team fortress? |
| 13:48.59 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: healers get a gun that fires dirty needles |
| 13:48.59 | cryogen | interesting |
| 13:49.03 | kenlyric | it's pretty awesome. |
| 13:49.04 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 13:49.05 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 13:49.05 | cryogen | they all leaving the server? |
| 13:49.07 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 13:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it's an FPS |
| 13:49.09 | cryogen | really hope not, its dead enough as it is :D |
| 13:49.13 | Towbar | seems so, quite sad really |
| 13:49.13 | kenlyric | I don't yet know if the needles hurt or heal, yet. |
| 13:49.15 | sag_ich_nicht | what's to learn about it >< |
| 13:49.26 | Towbar | they where a piller of what homorush could be |
| 13:49.26 | QuantumDelta | turrets sag! |
| 13:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *a FPS |
| 13:49.28 | QuantumDelta | turrets!1 |
| 13:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | QuantumDelta geez |
| 13:49.39 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 13:49.44 | cryogen | well ive never been a fan of jotun, so its not too upsetting for me |
| 13:49.52 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 13:49.57 | cryogen | but anything which lowers the population of the server further cant be good |
| 13:50.02 | Towbar | but they ownd progression in TBC |
| 13:50.07 | cryogen | hardly |
| 13:50.10 | Towbar | you still there? |
| 13:50.15 | cryogen | sure they were the best, but who were they competing against? :p |
| 13:50.15 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x535d7a1b.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:50.16 | cryogen | yeah |
| 13:50.24 | Towbar | sailor on? |
| 13:50.31 | cryogen | no clue |
| 13:50.38 | Towbar | ./who sailor |
| 13:50.41 | cryogen | at work :) |
| 13:50.44 | Towbar | ahh |
| 13:50.53 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.45.209) |
| 13:50.57 | Towbar | used to make a fortune with him |
| 13:51.06 | Towbar | would get him on vent and see what was on horde AH |
| 13:51.20 | Towbar | get him to buy it slap on 25% and AH it in BB |
| 13:51.36 | Towbar | or tanaris |
| 13:51.39 | cryogen | heh |
| 13:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:50] <Towbar> ./who sailor <--this is not WoW |
| 13:51.44 | *** join/#wowace tekcub (n=tekkub@c-67-166-39-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 13:51.52 | sag_ich_nicht | THIS IS IIII RRRR CCCC |
| 13:51.57 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r50651 10PT3Browser/ (PT3Browser-deDE.lua PT3Browser.toc): PT3Browser - fixing last commit |
| 13:52.01 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: ! my paladin almost, like, levelled! |
| 13:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | you have to /whois |
| 13:52.11 | Towbar | ... |
| 13:52.13 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: lol, you doing better now? |
| 13:52.22 | Towbar | i assume you where not followng the conversation |
| 13:52.24 | cryogen | it's a little less dull, yes |
| 13:52.29 | mykx | you can actually /who *rawr* |
| 13:52.31 | Towbar | tbh mate, move server |
| 13:52.39 | cryogen | i would, but i wouldnt know where to |
| 13:52.44 | mykx | works fine in irc |
| 13:52.44 | Towbar | i have not regretted it for a minute |
| 13:52.51 | cryogen | and i wouldnt know which char to move |
| 13:52.51 | Towbar | and haomarush always goes down |
| 13:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mykx: true, but /whois > /who |
| 13:53.09 | Towbar | how far is your current guild? |
| 13:53.17 | cryogen | morogrim in ssc |
| 13:53.20 | mykx | yeah I'm just saying :) |
| 13:53.25 | Towbar | killed or working on? |
| 13:53.28 | cryogen | working on |
| 13:53.33 | Towbar | use a bear tank :) |
| 13:53.36 | Towbar | get a prot pally |
| 13:53.39 | QuantumDelta | Got a protadin cryogen? :< |
| 13:53.40 | Towbar | and he is easy |
| 13:53.47 | mykx | Prison break download almost done ^ |
| 13:53.49 | cryogen | i dunno, im fairly inactive |
| 13:54.00 | cryogen | i havent been on any morogrim attempts :) |
| 13:54.02 | Towbar | bears dont take anywhere near the spike dmg on him |
| 13:54.13 | cryogen | they are imcompetant enough to make me not want to raid with them too often |
| 13:54.20 | Towbar | lol |
| 13:54.29 | QuantumDelta | Pallys take slightly more dmg overall but the least bouncey on the boss, easiest to heal |
| 13:54.34 | QuantumDelta | they're better used for the adds tho! |
| 13:54.38 | Towbar | no way |
| 13:54.58 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 13:54.59 | Towbar | use a prot pally for the murlocks, get a warrior to stomp them as they come past and pull into the aoe pally |
| 13:55.08 | Towbar | and a bear on morrowgrim > all imo |
| 13:55.11 | mykx | I haven't done the fight but surely dodge, parry and block > only dodge |
| 13:55.20 | QuantumDelta | Quite. |
| 13:55.21 | Towbar | nope |
| 13:55.23 | cryogen | im fairly sure we dont have any prot paladins in the guild at all |
| 13:55.34 | QuantumDelta | Towbar; To a protadin morogrim is just any other boss |
| 13:55.40 | QuantumDelta | protadins don't care about EQ etc :P |
| 13:55.44 | QuantumDelta | they have the most stable hp |
| 13:55.46 | Towbar | they are paladins, they must have prot gear |
| 13:55.51 | QuantumDelta | druids have the second bounciest hp |
| 13:55.52 | Towbar | jsut bring them to palazhan twice |
| 13:56.09 | QuantumDelta | but take the least damage overall |
| 13:56.12 | Towbar | druids are most consistient to heal though, its hit or miss |
| 13:56.13 | cryogen | i need to bribe someone in here to get me in their guild if i server transfer |
| 13:56.15 | [Ammo] | once towbar, once :) |
| 13:56.17 | QuantumDelta | warriors are just random and utter liabilities |
| 13:56.18 | *** join/#wowace lapalapa (n=chatzill@195.91.247.1) |
| 13:56.21 | Towbar | and dont rely on shild block |
| 13:56.22 | [Ammo] | palazhan pwns |
| 13:56.26 | QuantumDelta | Towbar: Druids get crushed. |
| 13:56.35 | QuantumDelta | 1.5* Normal damage. |
| 13:56.40 | QuantumDelta | No matter how much mitigation you have |
| 13:56.47 | QuantumDelta | druids have extremely bounce damage values. |
| 13:57.13 | Towbar | yea but tons of HP and 75% reduction from armor |
| 13:57.13 | lapalapa | guys anyone have CartAce broken too since last update? |
| 13:57.14 | QuantumDelta | They make up for this by having very high mitigation, thus taking less damage overall in very hard hitting boss fights. |
| 13:57.18 | Crysli | QuantumDelta *boing* |
| 13:57.21 | Towbar | 40% dodge |
| 13:57.22 | charon_ | QuantumDelta: not if the warrior gets crushes too, since a crush on a druid is what, 10%? more damage than a normal unblocked hit on a warrior |
| 13:57.26 | [Ammo] | lapalapa: it's fine |
| 13:57.33 | QuantumDelta | I'm discussing Paladin vs Druid. |
| 13:57.36 | Elkano | well, but since druids normaly have a lot more armor than warriors do this 150% wont be that much harder than a 100% on a warrior ;) |
| 13:57.41 | lapalapa | doesnt work for me Ammo, tried reinstall/SV wipe and stuff |
| 13:57.45 | lapalapa | it worked before |
| 13:57.50 | Towbar | our bear tank has 35k armor if he wants |
| 13:58.06 | Towbar | using 4 part t4 bonus |
| 13:58.09 | QuantumDelta | That's more or less the armour cap. |
| 13:58.12 | Elkano | I think 36k is needed for 75% against level 73, right? |
| 13:58.15 | Towbar | 31k vs 70 |
| 13:58.20 | Towbar | 34.5k vs 73 |
| 13:58.21 | lapalapa | shows only normal maps, no plugins are loaded. |
| 13:58.26 | charon | 35.8? |
| 13:58.35 | QuantumDelta | My point however is whilst the druid will take less overall damage they ARE more random |
| 13:58.36 | Towbar | i thought 34.5 |
| 13:58.40 | Towbar | but not 100% sure |
| 13:58.46 | Towbar | not more random |
| 13:58.48 | lapalapa | and bug suck is clear too. |
| 13:58.53 | QuantumDelta | Crushes are Random. |
| 13:58.59 | QuantumDelta | 15% CHANCE is RANDOM. |
| 13:59.01 | Towbar | one of our tanks said there is something he cannot keep up 100% of the time vs morrowgrim |
| 13:59.07 | Towbar | sheild black? |
| 13:59.09 | charon | Towbar: 35880 according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Damage_reduction |
| 13:59.10 | Towbar | block* |
| 13:59.11 | Towbar | someting |
| 13:59.13 | [Ammo] | lapalapa: you probably didn't run install.bat |
| 13:59.14 | QuantumDelta | That's for WARRIORS. |
| 13:59.20 | Towbar | charon: thx |
| 13:59.23 | QuantumDelta | You seem to be missing the entire point. |
| 13:59.24 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 13:59.28 | Towbar | get you now |
| 13:59.34 | Towbar | was ding overall tank comparrison |
| 13:59.44 | Industrial | Ellipsis: ? |
| 13:59.47 | Towbar | yea but can pallys get enough health to tank morrowgrim? |
| 13:59.50 | omega_ | CartAce converts Cartographer back to ace2 from rock or? |
| 13:59.59 | QuantumDelta | I have 20.5k fully buffed |
| 14:00.05 | QuantumDelta | I'm mostly wearing karazhan gear ;\ |
| 14:00.13 | Towbar | pally? |
| 14:00.16 | QuantumDelta | Indeed |
| 14:00.23 | Towbar | commanding shout? |
| 14:00.25 | Towbar | imp? |
| 14:00.25 | charon | QuantumDelta: the most random effect in the whole discussion, unfortunately, are warrior egos |
| 14:00.26 | mykx | I have watched good pally tank videos but the ones that used to raid with us put out 500TPS :/ |
| 14:00.37 | Towbar | 500 tps.. |
| 14:00.37 | QuantumDelta | fully means fully |
| 14:00.41 | QuantumDelta | bar world buffs* |
| 14:00.47 | Towbar | thats nice HP |
| 14:00.51 | Towbar | for a pally |
| 14:00.57 | Towbar | way more than our prot pally |
| 14:01.04 | QuantumDelta | indeed charon :< |
| 14:01.17 | QuantumDelta | Towbar: I'm the guilds MT (if we ever had one) at |
| 14:01.19 | QuantumDelta | atm** |
| 14:01.32 | Industrial | Ellipsis: wutcha doing? choose a team? lol |
| 14:01.32 | Towbar | how far progressed? |
| 14:01.39 | cryogen | man i would love to find a horde guild that doesnt raid at insane hours |
| 14:01.39 | QuantumDelta | Vashj 24% |
| 14:01.42 | Towbar | nice |
| 14:01.49 | Towbar | melee dying? |
| 14:01.49 | cryogen | something like 19:00 -> 00:00 would be nice |
| 14:01.52 | Ellipsis | Industrial: sec, computer hates |
| 14:01.56 | QuantumDelta | dunno haven't been there for it |
| 14:01.59 | QuantumDelta | my pc imploded |
| 14:01.59 | Towbar | kk |
| 14:02.02 | Towbar | lol |
| 14:02.04 | QuantumDelta | our guild has terrible luck :< |
| 14:02.19 | QuantumDelta | We've had 3 well geared MTs quit the game |
| 14:02.24 | Towbar | same with ours, 13 kills in a row and no warrior t5 legs |
| 14:02.32 | QuantumDelta | several of our healers hang up their boots etc :< |
| 14:02.41 | QuantumDelta | we recover tho |
| 14:02.41 | Towbar | most have hybrid t5 now in other classes lol |
| 14:02.48 | QuantumDelta | heh :p |
| 14:03.05 | Towbar | make sure the bats die |
| 14:03.09 | Towbar | makes a huge difference |
| 14:03.11 | QuantumDelta | Yea 2 hunters |
| 14:03.17 | QuantumDelta | we don't have any MMs tho! |
| 14:03.26 | Towbar | marks? |
| 14:03.28 | QuantumDelta | ye |
| 14:03.30 | Industrial | Ellipsis: we are moving onto another server cause this one seems to be configured badly |
| 14:03.32 | Crysli | So, read the patch notes for Druid yesterday. Will they affect Feral being the best leveling spec? |
| 14:03.36 | Towbar | mraks hunters suck in pve |
| 14:03.41 | Industrial | Ellipsis: an old clan mate joined :o |
| 14:03.41 | Towbar | the rotations are nuts |
| 14:03.46 | Ellipsis | Industrial: PM info |
| 14:03.48 | Towbar | BM hunters and one survival |
| 14:03.50 | QuantumDelta | but have extra range for vashj :p |
| 14:03.53 | Ellipsis | sorry I'm having so much trouble |
| 14:03.56 | QuantumDelta | yea that's what we have mostly |
| 14:04.03 | Ellipsis | I *used* to be able to alt-tab out of Source and back in |
| 14:04.04 | Towbar | yea but 300 dps pets helps that |
| 14:04.06 | Ellipsis | apparently not anymore |
| 14:04.18 | lapalapa | Ammo i think i figureed whats wrong |
| 14:04.22 | lapalapa | i will drop you a line in private |
| 14:04.40 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@g34212.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 14:04.45 | QuantumDelta | honestly though towbar |
| 14:04.50 | Elkano | omega_, it's more like never having gone to rock + some fixes |
| 14:04.56 | QuantumDelta | if you can get a skilled intelligent and well geared protadin under your belt as a raid |
| 14:04.59 | QuantumDelta | abuse the hell outta them |
| 14:05.03 | omega_ | Elkano: k |
| 14:05.06 | QuantumDelta | we make so many encounters trivial |
| 14:05.07 | Towbar | we do and we have :) |
| 14:05.15 | QuantumDelta | Al'ar is great |
| 14:05.27 | QuantumDelta | aoe tanking adds 'til P2 |
| 14:05.35 | Towbar | all adds>? |
| 14:05.39 | QuantumDelta | yea |
| 14:05.42 | Towbar | hmm |
| 14:05.47 | Towbar | we normally jsut keep 4 |
| 14:05.48 | QuantumDelta | kill them at P2 to do dmg to mr. birdy |
| 14:05.49 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 14:06.02 | QuantumDelta | though |
| 14:06.03 | Towbar | yea 3% per add |
| 14:06.09 | QuantumDelta | it gets me killed if i'm not fast enough on bubble |
| 14:06.12 | QuantumDelta | i take an ss anyway ;\ |
| 14:06.13 | Towbar | but you mean rank 1 consecrate tank them all?> |
| 14:06.28 | QuantumDelta | a mix |
| 14:06.35 | QuantumDelta | I use whatever I have sustainable mana for |
| 14:06.51 | Towbar | well you must get alot of mana towards the end getting healed so much |
| 14:06.58 | Towbar | tanking so many |
| 14:07.00 | QuantumDelta | yea it's max rank at the end |
| 14:07.02 | cryogen | you both alliance? |
| 14:07.04 | Towbar | yea |
| 14:07.07 | QuantumDelta | Yea |
| 14:07.12 | cryogen | pfft |
| 14:07.13 | *** join/#wowace Trell_ (i=GuNOT@14.Red-83-35-53.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:07.13 | cryogen | givf horde |
| 14:07.17 | Towbar | ./spit |
| 14:07.22 | Towbar | ;) |
| 14:07.26 | cryogen | :) |
| 14:07.26 | QuantumDelta | been a pally since day one |
| 14:07.37 | Towbar | been a ogue since day one too |
| 14:07.39 | QuantumDelta | Premiere Shockadin :< |
| 14:07.40 | Towbar | rogue* |
| 14:07.52 | Towbar | but pallys are AWESOMe single target healers |
| 14:08.03 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub caladun |
| 14:08.06 | cryogen | indeed they are |
| 14:08.06 | QuantumDelta | indeed |
| 14:08.06 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Caladun, Level 70 Human Paladin (45/16/0). 7437 HP; 9288 Mana; 238 mana regen; 132 mp5; 15637 Armour; 76.600 Melee DPS; 3.93% melee crit; 146 spell crit; 154 +spell dmg; 1999 +heal; 3.73% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 747 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xa3b7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sjqg6 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:08:21 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:08.11 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 14:08.12 | Towbar | my best friend on solarion :) |
| 14:08.18 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.19 | QuantumDelta | 132 mp5 |
| 14:08.28 | Towbar | ./cast flash heal |
| 14:08.43 | Towbar | he has over 2100 +heal when he wants |
| 14:08.50 | QuantumDelta | respectable |
| 14:08.55 | Towbar | 4 part t5 |
| 14:08.57 | Trell_ | someone said +heal was capped |
| 14:09.00 | Towbar | 8k heals in 1.75 |
| 14:09.02 | Trell_ | are they lying? |
| 14:09.06 | QuantumDelta | +heal is not capped |
| 14:09.20 | QuantumDelta | however it becomes less effective after you have a certain amount of it (as certain classes) |
| 14:09.21 | Towbar | !c EU kazzak awake |
| 14:09.23 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Awake, Level 32 Night Elf Druid (0/0/0). 1131 HP; 1369 Mana; 80 mana regen; 5.23% melee crit; 9.52% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 107 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24sdc6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q2mfu ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:09:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:09.24 | QuantumDelta | you're better off budgeting elsewhere |
| 14:09.26 | Towbar | oops |
| 14:09.32 | QuantumDelta | kazzak? :P |
| 14:09.34 | Trell_ | kk |
| 14:09.38 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50652 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:09.38 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:09.38 | CIA-12 | - Properly track auras and their durations/time left for castable spells |
| 14:09.40 | cryogen | hmm the pvp progress thread shows jotun disbanded |
| 14:09.51 | cryogen | that means the invicvtus are the top pve guild.. thats depressing in itself |
| 14:09.54 | QuantumDelta | pvp progress? Oo |
| 14:09.57 | cryogen | pve* :p |
| 14:10.02 | QuantumDelta | *giggle* |
| 14:10.11 | QuantumDelta | !c eu outland quantumdelta |
| 14:10.13 | cryogen | we're clearing AV any day now! |
| 14:10.14 | ThraeBot | QuantumDelta: Quantumdelta, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/20/41). 13917 HP; 4473 Mana; 86 mana regen; 15939 Armour; 81.200 Melee DPS; 10.61% melee crit; 28 melee hit; 8 spell hit; 143 +spell dmg/heal; 331 defense; 18.32% dodge; 18.30% block;[[ TBR: 736 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3d6ush ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33u3py ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:10:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:10.21 | QuantumDelta | Not prot specced |
| 14:10.26 | QuantumDelta | but I thinkkkk that's my prot gear |
| 14:10.32 | QuantumDelta | looks like it to me :P |
| 14:10.44 | cryogen | looks protish |
| 14:10.46 | cryogen | weak TBR :p |
| 14:10.50 | Towbar | yea but compare to a warrior.. |
| 14:10.52 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 14:11.01 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub xeph |
| 14:11.02 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Xeph, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (8/5/48). 16074 HP; 16306 Armour; 702 AP; 143.100 Melee DPS; 13.72% melee crit; 35 melee hit; 378 defense; 24.69% dodge; 30.22% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1259 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cw982 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2njdqe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 08:01:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:11.13 | Towbar | think he has a flask on and nothing else |
| 14:11.44 | Towbar | 20% parry too i think |
| 14:11.45 | deltron | night elf -_- |
| 14:12.02 | QuantumDelta | He out ilevels me |
| 14:12.05 | QuantumDelta | significantly ;) |
| 14:12.07 | Towbar | whats wrong with nelfs! |
| 14:12.13 | Towbar | yea but he is 4 part t5 |
| 14:12.29 | Towbar | that haste is awesome for threat |
| 14:12.38 | Towbar | in warrior 4 part set bonus |
| 14:12.39 | haste | *rawrs* |
| 14:12.41 | QuantumDelta | heh towbar |
| 14:12.43 | Towbar | :) |
| 14:12.51 | QuantumDelta | I can boost my avoidance to insane levels |
| 14:13.10 | Towbar | harder for yuou to keep high levels of HP and keep avoidence |
| 14:13.13 | QuantumDelta | I was pushing 38% dodge 19% parry 28% block and 12% miss at one point ;\ |
| 14:13.20 | Towbar | but what HP? |
| 14:13.26 | QuantumDelta | 12. something |
| 14:13.28 | Towbar | yea |
| 14:13.37 | QuantumDelta | I was doing gruul back then! :P |
| 14:13.38 | Towbar | you need the sta for some fights like kael etc |
| 14:13.49 | elusif | best race for a rogue - quick thoughts? |
| 14:13.55 | Towbar | pvp or pve? |
| 14:13.58 | elusif | pvp |
| 14:14.01 | Towbar | gnome |
| 14:14.03 | QuantumDelta | 14.5 now unbuffed towbar |
| 14:14.04 | Towbar | or UD |
| 14:14.14 | Towbar | 14.5 is nice for unbuffed pally |
| 14:14.25 | elusif | cool i started a nelf two days ago but i've been thinking about going gnome for escape artist |
| 14:14.37 | Towbar | or human btw if you wnt openers in duels, but escape artist is more usful for pvp imo |
| 14:14.38 | SunTsu | .o0( Gnome as rogue rocks. You can hardly see them when they are not in stealth ) |
| 14:15.02 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub towbar |
| 14:15.04 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 8344 HP; 1715 AP; 373.800 Melee DPS; 25.19% melee crit; 280 melee hit; 27.06% dodge; 20 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 816 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytuftp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p76yo ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:15:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:15.06 | Towbar | i r nelf /hide |
| 14:15.19 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 14:15.31 | QuantumDelta | !vs eu azjol-nerub towbar eu outland sofia |
| 14:15.32 | Towbar | my pvp gear is nice too :) |
| 14:15.34 | ThraeBot | QuantumDelta: Towbar vs Sofia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 19/42/0 vs 41/20/0; Sofia wins by 955 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:15.45 | QuantumDelta | x_x |
| 14:15.49 | Towbar | TBRs? |
| 14:15.54 | QuantumDelta | ~TBR |
| 14:15.55 | purl | somebody said tbr was ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 14:16.04 | Towbar | ok logging my pvp gear |
| 14:16.05 | Towbar | sec |
| 14:16.07 | Towbar | ;) |
| 14:16.28 | Towbar | logged off with pvp gear, how long for update? |
| 14:16.34 | QuantumDelta | nooooo idea |
| 14:16.36 | Elkano | who was it that asked me about clickthrough support for EBB? Antiarc? |
| 14:17.04 | QuantumDelta | Was that a EBB GUI hint of subtleness?! |
| 14:17.11 | QuantumDelta | oh wait |
| 14:17.21 | QuantumDelta | nevermind it was about being able to click through the bars |
| 14:17.23 | QuantumDelta | ./bonk |
| 14:18.58 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r50653 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): ElkBuffBars: added click-through support (Disable mouse) |
| 14:19.09 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 14:19.14 | [Ammo] | FUNKEH! grrrr |
| 14:19.16 | Towbar | can you still cancle a buff with rightclick? |
| 14:19.29 | QuantumDelta | it's probably optional towbar |
| 14:19.30 | Elkano | yes and no |
| 14:19.45 | Elkano | exactly. you can disable mouse on a per group basis |
| 14:19.46 | Towbar | cause when poisons are on 2 mins left etc i jsut reapply |
| 14:19.58 | Towbar | and some stupid addon wont let me replace them so i have to cancle them first |
| 14:20.08 | QuantumDelta | Towbar: Use a macro for it. |
| 14:20.24 | QuantumDelta | Cancel Aura or so (dunno how it would work for weaponbuffs to be fair) |
| 14:20.27 | Towbar | i got poison pouch |
| 14:20.47 | Towbar | so i jsut right click it twice and it applies last poisons again |
| 14:21.01 | Towbar | works for SP too with spell dmg to weapon |
| 14:21.10 | elusif | can anyone recommend a build that i can work towards on a pvp server from level 10 - 70 for my gnome rogue? |
| 14:21.12 | Towbar | not ace addon though :( |
| 14:21.20 | Towbar | combat maces |
| 14:21.23 | Towbar | with disarm |
| 14:21.30 | Towbar | or combat swords |
| 14:21.37 | Towbar | bes to level with for sure |
| 14:21.43 | Towbar | best* |
| 14:21.46 | *** join/#wowace Lothaer (i=Jamie@CPE-124-182-215-223.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 14:21.46 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-734ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:21.46 | elusif | swords are more popular right? |
| 14:21.50 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 14:22.01 | Towbar | yea i use swords, but I am waiting for kael to drop that mace :) |
| 14:22.06 | Towbar | then i will jsut get arena offhand |
| 14:22.07 | deltron | mace/sword is what the cool kinds are running with nowadays |
| 14:22.16 | Towbar | mace stun is overpowered |
| 14:22.23 | Lothaer | nerfed |
| 14:22.27 | Towbar | def dont use daggers |
| 14:22.31 | Towbar | still overpowered |
| 14:22.44 | Towbar | grinding = more stuns = less downtime eating |
| 14:22.59 | elusif | kk |
| 14:23.08 | elusif | there are two combat swords builds here |
| 14:23.08 | Lothaer | rogues are just over powered period |
| 14:23.09 | elusif | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=941264861&sid=1 |
| 14:23.12 | Towbar | and blade flurry is jsut imba |
| 14:23.15 | elusif | can you tell me which one please |
| 14:23.20 | Towbar | lothar class? |
| 14:23.24 | Lothaer | Priest |
| 14:23.26 | Towbar | if you say lock i wlll rofl |
| 14:23.26 | uzaR000 | warlocks are overpowered |
| 14:23.27 | elusif | yah i heard daggers are bad |
| 14:23.33 | Towbar | i have a SP |
| 14:23.34 | deltron | I play a resto shaman :P |
| 14:23.38 | Lothaer | HP |
| 14:23.45 | Towbar | and there is a SP on my server that i cannot beat in a duel ever |
| 14:23.49 | uzaR000 | Lock is way more OP than rogue |
| 14:23.54 | uzaR000 | name? |
| 14:23.58 | uzaR000 | and serv0r |
| 14:23.59 | Towbar | resto shammys <3 |
| 14:23.59 | uzaR000 | and us? |
| 14:24.12 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub polio |
| 14:24.15 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Polio, Level 70 Human Priest (10/10/41). 12701 HP; 8580 Mana; 135 mana regen; 4109 Armour; 15 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 748 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (802); 54 shadow dmg (802); 4.98% dodge; 405 resilience;[[ TBR: 741 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq7hfv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32m2nd ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:24:30 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:24.16 | Lothaer | !c us spinebreaker lothaer |
| 14:24.18 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Lothaer, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (31/30/0). 6141 HP; 9834 Mana; 344 mana regen; 89 mp5; 142 +spell dmg; 1340 +heal; 6.42% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 517 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a39dp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vazhg ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:24:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:24.23 | uzaR000 | lol ALLIANCE |
| 14:24.23 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50654 10CartoAce/Cartographer.lua: CartoAce: fix Funkeh's crapola. |
| 14:24.28 | *** join/#wowace Synneth (n=syn@87-194-97-125.bethere.co.uk) |
| 14:24.35 | *** join/#wowace pHnk (i=phnk@81-233-14-154-no136.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:24.37 | Undine | !c eu azjol-nerub undine |
| 14:24.40 | ThraeBot | Undine: Undine, Level 70 Undead Priest (24/37/0). 6791 HP; 10020 Mana; 395 mana regen; 154 mp5; 151 +spell dmg; 1778 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 693 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24nrub ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3e5d4q ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:24:55 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:24.51 | CIA-12 | 03saroz * r50655 10BigBrother/libs/: |
| 14:24.51 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 14:24.51 | CIA-12 | - Add FuBarPlugin-2.0 to externals |
| 14:24.55 | Towbar | you on AN too? |
| 14:24.59 | Undine | :) |
| 14:25.01 | Towbar | :) |
| 14:25.03 | uzaR000 | :) |
| 14:25.05 | Lothaer | !vs us spinebreaker Lothaer eu azjol-nerub polio |
| 14:25.07 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Lothaer vs Polio! Two 70 priests square off!; 31/30/0 vs 10/10/41; Polio wins by 224 TBRs! |
| 14:25.09 | Tornhoof | !c eu die silberne hand tornhoof |
| 14:25.12 | ThraeBot | Tornhoof: Tornhoof, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/5/56). 10163 HP; 11065 Mana; 343 mana regen; 211 mp5; 10981 Armour; 71.300 Melee DPS; 4.76% melee crit; 176 +spell dmg; 1823 +heal; 4.76% dodge; 5.00% block; 37 shadow resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 822 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yptlld ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32b6ss ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:25:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:25.17 | Towbar | polio is sick |
| 14:25.21 | Towbar | seriously unkillable |
| 14:25.32 | elusif | which is better http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?0053201054000000000000233051020050150023210510000000000000000000000&sid=1 or http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?3053201050000000000003203050022050150023012510000000000000000000000 for me to work to from level 10 - 70? |
| 14:25.35 | uzaR000 | Bu |
| 14:25.36 | uzaR000 | t |
| 14:25.36 | Towbar | his 5v5 is number 1 in battlegrp or number 2 maybe |
| 14:25.38 | uzaR000 | cmon.. |
| 14:25.40 | uzaR000 | alliance |
| 14:25.41 | uzaR000 | seriously |
| 14:25.47 | elusif | and where should the first 10 talent points go? |
| 14:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016024084&sid=1&pageNo=2 am i evil? :X |
| 14:26.00 | Undine | i've banned myself from pvp for being too bad :( |
| 14:26.02 | Lothaer | on spinebreaker horde are the dominant faction |
| 14:26.16 | Lothaer | cant goto elental plateau with out htem killing you |
| 14:26.25 | Lothaer | go any were and the horde kill ya |
| 14:26.48 | chexsum | !c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 14:26.49 | ThraeBot | chexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (26/35/0). 9261 HP; 8940 Mana; 154 mana regen; 40 mp5; 24 spell crit; 211 +spell dmg; 965 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 495 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1481 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28y8nn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33avsm ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:23:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:26.52 | uzaR000 | I never lost a bg on ghostlands.. lol |
| 14:27.03 | Towbar | imp sinister strike, malice and remorseless attacks for first 10 talent points leveling |
| 14:27.08 | Lothaer | !vs eu azjol-nerub polio us spinebreaker kniveshadows |
| 14:27.09 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:27.25 | uzaR000 | knife* |
| 14:27.26 | uzaR000 | ? |
| 14:27.50 | lapalapa | uzaR you are horde side? |
| 14:28.27 | Lothaer | !vs eu azjol-nerub polio us spinebreaker knivesshadows |
| 14:28.28 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:28.34 | Towbar | lol |
| 14:28.39 | Lothaer | !vs eu azjol-nerub polio us spinebreaker knivesshadow |
| 14:28.43 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Polio vs Knivesshadow! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 10/10/41 vs 16/45/0; Knivesshadow wins by 740 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:28.47 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:28.55 | uzaR000 | lol |
| 14:28.57 | Towbar | lol |
| 14:29.05 | uzaR000 | iam horde only yes |
| 14:29.08 | Towbar | i seriously bet polio would own him |
| 14:29.18 | uzaR000 | i started as alliance like every other noob |
| 14:29.25 | chexsum | vs ming :P |
| 14:29.28 | Lothaer | !c us spinebreaker knivesshadow |
| 14:29.29 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Knivesshadow, Level 70 Undead Rogue (16/45/0). 10784 HP; +10 Energy; 1396 AP; 331.300 Melee DPS; 28.05% melee crit; 50 melee hit; 21.91% dodge; 378 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1496 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f8xmz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ps57u ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:28:57 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:29.51 | Towbar | wtb towbar armory update |
| 14:30.09 | elusif | rowbar: ty |
| 14:30.12 | elusif | towbar |
| 14:30.21 | Towbar | elusif: ? |
| 14:30.23 | Undine | tbrs? |
| 14:30.42 | Lothaer | ~tbr |
| 14:30.43 | purl | i heard tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 14:30.43 | lapalapa | uzaR - i won plenty on alliance side there :D |
| 14:31.20 | Gagorian- | !c eu al'akir Gagorian |
| 14:31.24 | ThraeBot | Gagorian-: Gagorian, Level 70 Orc Warlock (40/0/21). 10750 HP; 8170 Mana; 109 mana regen; 47 spell crit; 52 spell hit; 754 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (808); 105 shadow dmg (859); 4.24% dodge; 387 resilience;[[ TBR: 1754 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp2u8v ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kckdu ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:31:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:31.30 | Towbar | omg polios team is down to 56th since rezzel quit the game |
| 14:31.37 | Undine | !vs eu azjol-nerub undine eu azjol-nerub polio |
| 14:31.39 | ThraeBot | Undine: Undine vs Polio! Two 70 priests square off!; 24/37/0 vs 10/10/41; Polio wins by 48 TBRs! |
| 14:31.50 | Undine | only 48 tbrs :) |
| 14:32.10 | Towbar | yea |
| 14:32.19 | Lothaer | !vs eu azjol-nerub undine us spinebreaker lothaer |
| 14:32.21 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Undine vs Lothaer! Two 70 priests square off!; 24/37/0 vs 31/30/0; Undine wins by 176 TBRs! |
| 14:32.29 | Undine | hehe |
| 14:32.37 | Lothaer | meh im not pvp build |
| 14:32.42 | Lothaer | im heal spec |
| 14:32.48 | Undine | likewise. |
| 14:32.51 | kenlyric | 24/37? |
| 14:32.56 | kenlyric | that's a first for me. |
| 14:32.57 | Towbar | i am 19-42-0 so it might gimp my tbr's |
| 14:33.00 | Lothaer | 31/30/0 |
| 14:33.11 | kenlyric | no, the other one. |
| 14:33.16 | Stanzilla2 | is 2.2.2 already on the US servers? |
| 14:33.19 | Towbar | prefer raid dps to openers |
| 14:33.22 | Towbar | :) |
| 14:33.22 | Lothaer | yupyu |
| 14:33.24 | Lothaer | patch is out |
| 14:33.26 | Undine | i keep thinking about respec but nothing looks right |
| 14:33.35 | uzaR000 | respec to |
| 14:33.40 | uzaR000 | full discipine |
| 14:33.46 | Lothaer | pft |
| 14:33.54 | Towbar | disc is pretty annoying for a rogue |
| 14:33.57 | Lothaer | only good thingabout htat is PS |
| 14:34.05 | Towbar | and soon its castable :) |
| 14:34.13 | Lothaer | Pain Suppresion and Reflective shield |
| 14:34.14 | Towbar | shield wall mark 2 for tanks |
| 14:34.34 | Towbar | and 5% threat is nothing |
| 14:34.44 | chexsum | BR > PS |
| 14:34.48 | uzaR000 | Be radical, full discipline raid healer.. lulz |
| 14:34.53 | Grum | Towbar: 5% is a lot for a tank |
| 14:35.09 | Towbar | not when he has a 15-20% lead on dps |
| 14:35.09 | uzaR000 | Everyone wants the 2% on gloves |
| 14:35.18 | Towbar | eg a bear |
| 14:35.27 | Towbar | bear threat is of the chart |
| 14:35.28 | backbone | !vs eu frostmourne sinova eu azjol-nerub undine |
| 14:35.29 | Grum | how much tps would a bear do then? |
| 14:35.32 | ThraeBot | backbone: Sinova vs Undine! Two 70 priests square off!; 14/0/47 vs 24/37/0; Sinova wins by 1170 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:35.40 | Undine | ouch :( |
| 14:35.43 | backbone | nice toy :) |
| 14:35.57 | chexsum | !vs us barthilas chamberlaine us black dragonflight ming |
| 14:35.59 | ThraeBot | chexsum: Chamberlaine vs Ming! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 26/35/0 vs 41/20/0; Ming wins by 644 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:36.04 | Towbar | well I cant catch our bear and I am 1300 tps at times with a shammy in the grp |
| 14:36.08 | Lothaer | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT |
| 14:36.09 | chexsum | bleh rogues are imba |
| 14:36.13 | Lothaer | Elunes Grace is getting changed |
| 14:36.20 | backbone | what? |
| 14:36.23 | Wobin | really? |
| 14:36.24 | backbone | what? |
| 14:36.27 | Lothaer | Change to Elune's Grace to reduce the chance to be hit by melee and ranged attacks by 20% for 15 seconds |
| 14:36.27 | Wobin | They're making it useful? |
| 14:36.33 | Trell_ | !vs eu draenor Trell us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 14:36.33 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Trell vs chamberlaine! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? chamberlaine wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 14:36.35 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu zirkel+des+cenarius arcádia |
| 14:36.35 | backbone | lol -.- |
| 14:36.38 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:36.38 | Trell_ | >_< |
| 14:36.46 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu zirkel+des+cenarius Arcádia |
| 14:36.48 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:36.49 | chexsum | lol |
| 14:36.52 | Stanzilla2 | damn |
| 14:36.54 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxghzhxtbzvofxxc |
| 14:36.56 | kenlyric | I laughed |
| 14:37.06 | Lothaer | Reduction in Mana Cost for Power Word: Fortitude, Divine Spirit, Prayer of Fortitude, and Prayer of Spirit- |
| 14:37.14 | Lothaer | about time |
| 14:37.29 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:37.30 | Trell_ | personally im most looking forward to the 'free' buff time after ressing and entering bg's |
| 14:37.33 | Grum | it's fun if you are the only priest! |
| 14:37.33 | backbone | definitly |
| 14:37.37 | Grum | you have to drink 5 times :D |
| 14:37.45 | chexsum | yeah thatll be awesome |
| 14:37.48 | Lothaer | and all priests get Fear Ward |
| 14:37.53 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu Zirkel+des+Cenarius Arc%E1dia |
| 14:37.55 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:37.56 | kenlyric | probably be a 2% reduction. |
| 14:37.57 | cryogen | Lothaer: s/Fear/Shit/ |
| 14:38.02 | Stanzilla2 | ThraeBot: you suck |
| 14:38.22 | Lothaer | huh cryogen |
| 14:38.29 | cryogen | Lothaer: they are nerfing it into uselessness |
| 14:38.29 | Towbar | so what do drannys and dorfs get if all priests get FW? |
| 14:38.32 | Wobin | s'true |
| 14:38.32 | backbone | yeah so we allies need now 6 priests up in a raid ^^ |
| 14:38.34 | Wobin | =( |
| 14:38.35 | Lothaer | yeah i know |
| 14:38.39 | Towbar | becaue 99% of them picked that race for FW |
| 14:38.42 | cryogen | thats my new name for it |
| 14:38.44 | cryogen | Shit Ward :) |
| 14:38.46 | Lothaer | pft |
| 14:38.49 | Wobin | They get a new racial |
| 14:38.51 | kenlyric | Trell_: free buff times might make me take imp DS in a bg build. |
| 14:38.53 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu Zirkel-des-Cenarius Arcádia |
| 14:38.54 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:38.58 | Towbar | i picked dranny for FW extra hot and 1k mana to party :) |
| 14:38.59 | Stanzilla2 | .,. |
| 14:39.02 | cryogen | Stanzilla2: lost the -+whatever |
| 14:39.04 | cryogen | just use spaces |
| 14:39.05 | kenlyric | stop failing. |
| 14:39.10 | cryogen | lose* |
| 14:39.11 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu Zirkel des Cenarius Arcádia |
| 14:39.13 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:39.17 | Stanzilla2 | :/ |
| 14:39.19 | Trell_ | when are alchemists gonna get a recipe that requires nether :( |
| 14:39.22 | chexsum | id pick dwarf for the voice emote coolness factor |
| 14:39.27 | Lothaer | Rogues |
| 14:39.28 | Lothaer | All poisons now last for one hour |
| 14:39.30 | Lothaer | BOOOOO |
| 14:39.42 | Wobin | "Brilliant!" |
| 14:39.44 | Trell_ | Lothaer; thats the best of a bad bunch tbh |
| 14:39.45 | cryogen | dwarves ftw |
| 14:39.46 | Lothaer | Shadowstep usable at any time, not only while stealthed. Threat caused by next Ambush, Garrote or Backstab is reduced by 50% and cooldown increased to 40 seconds |
| 14:39.48 | kenlyric | Towbar: draenei are gonna be pretty suck when 2.3 rolls around. |
| 14:39.48 | SunTsu | Lothaer: I hope on the weapon and not on the receiver ;) |
| 14:39.49 | Lothaer | BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 14:39.57 | kenlyric | 10% human spirit with mediation buff? = hot |
| 14:39.58 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub meliw |
| 14:40.01 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Meliw, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (53/0/8). 8644 HP; +10 Energy; 1720 AP; 327.800 Melee DPS; 29.94% melee crit; 204 melee hit; 25.61% dodge; 34 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1990 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqejmf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32t4tu ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:40:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:40.01 | cryogen | what was the old cooldown? |
| 14:40.05 | Grum | kenlyric: just 10% :( |
| 14:40.08 | Grum | wtb 20% |
| 14:40.09 | Towbar | meh thats his dps gear |
| 14:40.10 | Trell_ | Lothaer; that -threat on SS is a pile of worthless crap |
| 14:40.12 | backbone | use a clean char name to avoid those errors... he moment u cant change it after making ur character, damn! |
| 14:40.15 | Grum | so people can actually stack on spi |
| 14:40.21 | Wobin | cryogen: the old cooldown was that you had to be in stealth |
| 14:40.25 | Grum | this actually means i *HAVE* to run some oldstyle instances again .. sigh :D |
| 14:40.25 | cryogen | oh |
| 14:40.27 | cryogen | haha |
| 14:40.29 | Stanzilla2 | !vs eu magtheridon Muqq eu Zirkel des Cenarius Arc%E1dia |
| 14:40.31 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:40.36 | Stanzilla2 | damnit |
| 14:40.37 | kenlyric | Grum: right now, human spirit is slightly worse than the draenei party buff (for the priest), after mediation buff, it'll be much better. |
| 14:40.46 | Wobin | oh my mistake |
| 14:40.47 | Wobin | 15seconds |
| 14:40.49 | Lothaer | Druid - Rebirth cooldown will be changed from 30 minutes to 20 minutes. wooot |
| 14:40.51 | kenlyric | and fuck the rest of your party, they're probably rogues anyway. |
| 14:40.59 | backbone | !vs eu frostmourne sinova eu frostmourne uni |
| 14:41.02 | ThraeBot | backbone: Sinova vs Uni! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 14/0/47 vs 46/15/0; Sinova wins by 285 TBRs! |
| 14:41.04 | SunTsu | Lothaer: Right, I was jumping all over the place ;) |
| 14:41.19 | kenlyric | if a holy priest is in a group that needs mana, they're probably with a shadowpriest anyway :) |
| 14:41.19 | Trell_ | !vs eu draenor Trell eu draenor Niarr |
| 14:41.24 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Trell vs Niarr! Two 70 rogues square off!; 41/20/0 vs 17/44/0; Trell wins by 239 TBRs! |
| 14:41.26 | Lothaer | Hunter - |
| 14:41.27 | Lothaer | Wyvern Sting becoming an instant cast BOOOOOOO |
| 14:41.36 | cryogen | Lothaer: keep reading |
| 14:41.39 | kenlyric | is the 2.3 ptr up? |
| 14:41.41 | Towbar | and wtf with buff removal on arc shot?!?!?!? |
| 14:41.42 | cryogen | arcane shot dispels magic, wtf? |
| 14:41.43 | kenlyric | or are you all just months behind? |
| 14:41.44 | Wobin | Lothaer: is there any non-nerf that you like? |
| 14:41.47 | Towbar | seriously |
| 14:41.57 | Grum | kenlyric: if they need mana they suck ... get more mp5 and more manapots! |
| 14:41.59 | Lothaer | as i play a priest there isnt lol |
| 14:41.59 | dreamss | cryogen, it be funny for BOP |
| 14:42.09 | cryogen | it's retarded :) |
| 14:42.10 | Lothaer | the 2.3 ptr is not up |
| 14:42.14 | kenlyric | uh. |
| 14:42.23 | kenlyric | priests got tons of buffs in 2.3. you're crazy. |
| 14:42.34 | cryogen | shamans got the best of the deal imo |
| 14:42.35 | kenlyric | unless you're a dwarf, then hahahaha |
| 14:42.37 | cryogen | especially melee ones |
| 14:42.38 | backbone | meditation buff is about 30% |
| 14:42.39 | Grum | kenlyric: i wonder how the regen changes pan out |
| 14:42.44 | Towbar | but melee shammys need it |
| 14:42.50 | Grum | it's 15 or 20 right now? |
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| 14:42.54 | Towbar | i feel sry for them, especially enhancement |
| 14:42.55 | kenlyric | Grum: it makes spirit worth mp5. |
| 14:43.02 | Towbar | to be effect raid dps they need hiut gear |
| 14:43.06 | Trell_ | im so glad theyve worked on the kiting problems Rogues have in 2.3. |
| 14:43.06 | Lothaer | yes |
| 14:43.07 | Lothaer | Ritual of Refreshment will allow players to pick up their own stacks of food and water |
| 14:43.08 | Trell_ | oh...wait |
| 14:43.09 | dreamss | i been enhancement shaman since wow beta |
| 14:43.11 | Grum | kenlyric: whats the values at now? |
| 14:43.12 | kenlyric | and a good priest can make spirit *much* more valuable. |
| 14:43.13 | dreamss | we needed some love |
| 14:43.15 | Grum | 20 right? |
| 14:43.16 | kenlyric | 15% |
| 14:43.17 | Towbar | hit gear = rogue gear = leather and agi instead of str |
| 14:43.21 | backbone | 15, but i mean spirit got buffed 30%, due to the changes on meditation |
| 14:43.28 | Grum | eooh duh +5% for mooncloth set |
| 14:43.36 | Grum | so it will be 35? |
| 14:43.37 | Lothaer | this makes sence |
| 14:43.38 | Lothaer | Detect Magic removed, all players will see their target's beneficial effects at all times |
| 14:43.40 | Grum | that is .. INSANE :D |
| 14:43.52 | dreamss | about time |
| 14:44.01 | cryogen | .. why? :) |
| 14:44.02 | Grum | it will mean SPI will be the bomb O.o |
| 14:44.03 | Towbar | but priests are still far too squishey in raids |
| 14:44.05 | kenlyric | Grum: no, that's how badly spirit sucked. It's now evened out. |
| 14:44.05 | cryogen | whats the logic behind it? |
| 14:44.05 | chexsum | priests need shadow nova |
| 14:44.19 | chexsum | and psychic terror |
| 14:44.22 | Lothaer | i titally 100% agree with you towbar |
| 14:44.28 | Grum | kenlyric: actually .. i have ~70% inside FSR |
| 14:44.30 | Lothaer | YES |
| 14:44.35 | Grum | and 6spi == 1mp6 for me |
| 14:44.36 | Wobin | nono |
| 14:44.37 | dreamss | someone go start the realms, i wanna farm my pet pupkin |
| 14:44.38 | dreamss | ! |
| 14:44.39 | Wobin | Priests need Holy Form |
| 14:44.40 | kenlyric | a priest will have to average about 20% outside of 5 second rule to make them equal. |
| 14:44.42 | Grum | mp5 even :) |
| 14:44.48 | Lothaer | holy priess are too squishy in Raids and Heroics |
| 14:44.52 | kenlyric | and that's pretty doable. |
| 14:44.57 | Grum | kenlyric: not really |
| 14:45.01 | Lothaer | and our healing powers need a buff |
| 14:45.05 | Wobin | Holy Form that gives them wings |
| 14:45.06 | Towbar | and their heals make silly amounts of agro |
| 14:45.12 | Lothaer | i hate being out healed by paladin and druids |
| 14:45.13 | Wobin | and makes them hover =P |
| 14:45.14 | Towbar | hence i went shadow on my priest |
| 14:45.19 | kenlyric | grum, and that's not counting the +healing they get from the spirit. |
| 14:45.44 | Grum | kenlyric: that is just 1 healing per 10 spi |
| 14:45.45 | kenlyric | right now you have to spend 40% of your time out of 5sr to make them equal. And I'd like to see that :) |
| 14:45.56 | Wobin | Actually, what would be cool is if the priest Imp Death allowed you to be like a real Spirit healer, and instant res people =) |
| 14:46.02 | kenlyric | uh, 3.5 healing per 10 spirit. |
| 14:46.03 | backbone | with 70% inside FSR 1 mp5 is around 3,3 spi, if you have meditation, imp spi, kings and sor |
| 14:46.04 | Lothaer | full raid buff with elixir of healing power, elixir of draenic wisdom and golden fish sticks i have 1607 healing |
| 14:46.10 | Towbar | give priests BR |
| 14:46.17 | backbone | after 2.3 |
| 14:46.21 | Towbar | and something else to make the more raid viable |
| 14:46.24 | Lothaer | give priests leater |
| 14:46.27 | Lothaer | leather* |
| 14:46.28 | Towbar | we only take one to SSC and TK |
| 14:46.33 | Towbar | 2 max if a pally isnt on |
| 14:46.45 | Towbar | and the one is there for fort and dev spirit tbh |
| 14:47.00 | kenlyric | shadow priests cast fort. |
| 14:47.02 | kenlyric | fuck that noise. |
| 14:47.02 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub xeneph |
| 14:47.03 | Lothaer | 51 point talent ideads discuss |
| 14:47.05 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Xeneph, Level 70 Human Priest (23/38/0). 7281 HP; 9135 Mana; 479 mana regen; 230 mp5; 4 spell crit; 156 +spell dmg; 1841 +heal; 4.98% dodge; +5 all resists;[[ TBR: 1114 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eafm2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ouk7e ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:47:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:47.08 | backbone | in ssc priests suck, but in bt and hyjal it is worth to got more than one priest |
| 14:47.27 | Towbar | for hot stacks? |
| 14:47.30 | Towbar | or? |
| 14:47.36 | kenlyric | CoH |
| 14:47.36 | backbone | no coh |
| 14:47.37 | kenlyric | CoH |
| 14:47.38 | Lothaer | id like the 51 point talents to be kind of a limit break ability |
| 14:47.39 | Towbar | cause we regularly raid to trees |
| 14:47.47 | Grum | all our priests have CoH now O.o |
| 14:47.49 | Grum | oh except 2 |
| 14:47.54 | Lothaer | CoH is worthless |
| 14:47.58 | kenlyric | no |
| 14:47.59 | backbone | never |
| 14:47.59 | Grum | CoH is worth it |
| 14:48.00 | kenlyric | you're a noob |
| 14:48.00 | chexsum | the only real priest problem is lack of ecape mechanisms |
| 14:48.02 | Grum | lol |
| 14:48.03 | Wobin | CoH is great |
| 14:48.07 | Grum | 6k heal for ~400 mana |
| 14:48.09 | Towbar | and fix 41 point holy talent whle you are at it |
| 14:48.09 | Grum | seriously .. :D |
| 14:48.10 | deltron | chain heal > CoH |
| 14:48.11 | Grum | and insta |
| 14:48.14 | Towbar | COH sucks |
| 14:48.16 | Lothaer | 6k heals BS |
| 14:48.19 | backbone | outheal every shami with, even without spriest or shami in grp |
| 14:48.21 | Towbar | should scale WAY more than it does |
| 14:48.22 | chexsum | once someones on you youre locked in until death |
| 14:48.35 | kenlyric | anyone that thinks CoH is worthless hasn't stepped into BT. |
| 14:48.42 | Lothaer | CoH is a lesswe version of PoH |
| 14:48.48 | backbone | no |
| 14:48.49 | kenlyric | uh. |
| 14:48.51 | kenlyric | fail |
| 14:48.51 | Xinhuan | New Title - Champion of the Naaru: Awarded to those who complete the Tempest Keep attunement quest at level 70. |
| 14:48.56 | Wobin | hullo? Instant? |
| 14:48.56 | Xinhuan | lol what a lame title |
| 14:49.00 | Towbar | backbone: if there is raid healing to be done, resto shammy > all |
| 14:49.03 | Xinhuan | Champion of the Naaru Xinhuan |
| 14:49.12 | backbone | ever seen azgalor? cant cast while movin ... |
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| 14:49.23 | Lothaer | CoH maybe worth getting in 2.3 |
| 14:49.24 | durcyn | Xinhuan: i'll still throw it up just to be obnoxiously large for people with names turned on |
| 14:49.24 | Lothaer | Prayer of Healing, Circle of Healing and Holy Nova (healing effect) will gain additional benefit from damage and healing bonuses- |
| 14:49.26 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Great! Another useless title. /cheer |
| 14:49.30 | kenlyric | prayer of healing is for inner focus :) |
| 14:49.34 | Towbar | what are they doing to it in 2.3? |
| 14:49.42 | Xinhuan | i mean i only have 6 titles ;p |
| 14:49.58 | kenlyric | if your healing is greater than 1400 or so, it'll scale better. |
| 14:50.01 | Wobin | PS, thank god PW:S is now scaling =P |
| 14:50.03 | kenlyric | I have private, that's all I need. |
| 14:50.09 | Towbar | define better :/ |
| 14:50.14 | backbone | on azgalor we have a melee group fisting him the whole time, because 2 holys spam coh on the group when they took damage trough the rain |
| 14:50.19 | Towbar | cause 5% more is "better" per say |
| 14:50.22 | chexsum | the changes dont affect pvp |
| 14:50.23 | Towbar | but still crap |
| 14:50.36 | kenlyric | Towbar: dunno. since it's already so awesome, it doesn't matter. |
| 14:50.43 | backbone | this one group does 50% of the damage in this fight |
| 14:50.52 | Grum | Xinhuan: you should make an addon which switches em when you jump :D |
| 14:51.02 | Eggi | how much % does pw:s now get? |
| 14:51.08 | Xinhuan | i considered that once Grum |
| 14:51.09 | sag_ich_nicht | someone fix my palapowers, i can't open the menu on my main, works fine on an alt. |
| 14:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also afk driving home D: |
| 14:51.15 | Xinhuan | to make an addon that switches my titles every 5 minutes |
| 14:51.20 | Grum | ^^ |
| 14:51.28 | kenlyric | the only reason CoH fails is because it's up against imp DS. the same reason all holy entree talents fail. But, you only need one of those. |
| 14:51.39 | Xinhuan | but i would probably end up distracting myself rather than others |
| 14:51.41 | kenlyric | *end-tree talents |
| 14:51.48 | Towbar | natures swiftness chail heal > CoH |
| 14:52.02 | backbone | yeah one time every 3mins |
| 14:52.05 | Grum | Towbar: surely there are other things nice |
| 14:52.08 | Grum | but CoH you can spam like madness |
| 14:52.10 | kenlyric | Towbar: you're in BT? |
| 14:52.18 | Towbar | yea until you rapidly go OOM |
| 14:52.21 | Grum | lol |
| 14:52.21 | Amadeo | Wow, they added lots of new graveyards |
| 14:52.23 | Towbar | ken not yet |
| 14:52.24 | Grum | 400 mana |
| 14:52.25 | Lothaer | exactly |
| 14:52.25 | Towbar | hyjal |
| 14:52.27 | *** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p54AC8F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:52.33 | cryogen | new graveyards = win |
| 14:52.36 | kenlyric | Towbar: you will learn :) |
| 14:52.41 | Grum | 1.5s GCD, that means per 15 seconds 4000 mana gone |
| 14:52.43 | Wobin | Towbar: of course, by the time you get the next NS cooldown, they're dead already =P |
| 14:52.50 | Grum | and ~1000mana back from regenning |
| 14:52.52 | Towbar | we have two nice holy priests, are they gonna be required then>? |
| 14:53.01 | Towbar | and will then have to loose div spir? |
| 14:53.07 | kenlyric | no, one of each. |
| 14:53.14 | backbone | yeah and in bt/hyjal you have fight like: 20sek heavy damage, 20sek low dmg |
| 14:53.16 | Lothaer | Imp DS > CoH |
| 14:53.18 | Towbar | one CoH is enough? |
| 14:53.33 | kenlyric | it's better than 0 |
| 14:53.43 | Towbar | what fights are you refering too? |
| 14:53.49 | Grum | CoH can use a buff, i agree, but still its really useful right now |
| 14:54.00 | Lothaer | no its not |
| 14:54.06 | Eggi | the original coh was much better |
| 14:54.09 | Grum | for example @ morogrim you get the raid back up in 6 seconds after an earthquake |
| 14:54.09 | backbone | azgalor grp healing, 2nd boss hyjal grp healing, najentus |
| 14:54.12 | kenlyric | I dunno, I've never gone either. I just know everyone who has, says it's pretty great. |
| 14:54.13 | Lothaer | not unless u have like 2k +healing |
| 14:54.15 | Grum | Eggi: i agree |
| 14:54.22 | kenlyric | Lothaer: uh |
| 14:54.27 | kenlyric | you should have at least that much in BT |
| 14:54.29 | Wobin | What were the original mechanics? |
| 14:54.39 | Eggi | it was a hot |
| 14:54.43 | Eggi | a group hot |
| 14:54.51 | Lothaer | on spinebreaker only 1 guild is in BT almost 2 and there both on horde |
| 14:55.01 | kenlyric | well then keep up. |
| 14:55.02 | Wobin | an instant group hot? |
| 14:55.07 | Grum | kenlyric: you dont need 2k +healing tbh |
| 14:55.08 | Lothaer | no alliance guild has beaten Kael yet |
| 14:55.09 | Eggi | imo it was instant |
| 14:55.12 | Wobin | wow. Hot =) |
| 14:55.17 | kenlyric | Grum: you don't need it, but you'll probably have it. |
| 14:55.20 | Codayus | They tried a few different ideas for CoH. The HoTs didn't go liv. :-( |
| 14:55.23 | Grum | depends how you spec |
| 14:55.23 | backbone | 51er holy: Imp Coh -> after a target was affected by coh, the next priest heal on this target is increased by x% |
| 14:55.25 | Towbar | on AN EU one horde guild in BT and we are top ally guild in hyjal atm, still attuneing ppl or ti |
| 14:55.31 | cryogen | what +hit do you need with a 2h vs bosses? |
| 14:55.37 | Towbar | have to kill kael tonight with 8 new people |
| 14:55.49 | Towbar | cry 8.6% |
| 14:56.01 | Codayus | CoH is very good throughout BT though. |
| 14:56.01 | cryogen | this was redecided from 5% right? |
| 14:56.09 | Grum | but kenlyric, it's doable indeed |
| 14:56.13 | Grum | if you get all the gear you want |
| 14:56.17 | kenlyric | 51 point talent is Improved improved divine spirit. |
| 14:56.29 | Towbar | first 5 weapon skill coutns as 3% hit as well |
| 14:56.30 | kenlyric | - you cry. |
| 14:56.32 | Towbar | 355 |
| 14:56.32 | kenlyric | is all it says. |
| 14:56.45 | Grum | kenlyric: hehe |
| 14:56.47 | Codayus | If you DPS bosses, you want 355 weapon skill. :-) |
| 14:56.50 | Eggi | lightwell should restore mana instead of life... with a debuff when you click it and holy priests would have a very nice 31pt talent |
| 14:56.54 | Towbar | 366 on my rogue atm |
| 14:57.04 | Towbar | vashj belt and weapon expertise |
| 14:57.05 | chexsum | lightwell is good now |
| 14:57.08 | kenlyric | in any case, 51 point holy talent will need to showcase how dumb 21 pt divine spirit is. |
| 14:57.09 | backbone | Eggi: agree |
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| 14:57.10 | Towbar | lolwell? |
| 14:57.15 | cryogen | so what do you need to raid? 5 weapon skill and 5% hit? |
| 14:57.16 | Eggi | no the well sucks atm |
| 14:57.20 | Codayus | Anything in excess of 355 has a smaller impact. |
| 14:57.23 | kenlyric | chexsum: lightwell still requires other people to not be retarded. |
| 14:57.34 | Towbar | cry 6% would be better but yea |
| 14:57.36 | Eggi | also with 100% +heal added |
| 14:57.37 | cryogen | kk |
| 14:57.44 | Codayus | Lightwell needs a SHORTER FREAKING COOLDOWN |
| 14:57.46 | Codayus | Gah |
| 14:57.51 | cryogen | putting this little flamewar to bed would be nice |
| 14:57.55 | Eggi | i think they fixed it kenlyric |
| 14:57.55 | chexsum | true they nee to make it not refresh itself |
| 14:58.01 | Eggi | you can only have 1 charge |
| 14:58.02 | kenlyric | Eggi: you can't fix it entirely. |
| 14:58.02 | Towbar | codayus: yea i been following elitest jerks avidly on their recent tests |
| 14:58.04 | Codayus | Eggi: Only for the *priest*. |
| 14:58.08 | Eggi | and don't click all 5 charges |
| 14:58.11 | kenlyric | really? |
| 14:58.13 | kenlyric | that helps a lot. |
| 14:58.14 | Grum | i wonder if what the badges of justice changes to Kara will do with the nether prices |
| 14:58.15 | Eggi | think so |
| 14:58.20 | Towbar | i may put the 10 points from weapon expertise elsewhere |
| 14:58.23 | Towbar | 2 poitns |
| 14:58.31 | Codayus | kenlyric: No. The PRIEST can't overright a charge. The rogues can still use them all in a second of spastic clicking. >< |
| 14:58.32 | Kuja^ | Elkano: ping |
| 14:58.39 | kenlyric | lightwell is a godsend in small groups when used properly. |
| 14:58.45 | kenlyric | Codayus: that's pretty dumb :) |
| 14:58.55 | Codayus | It's lightwell, of course its dumb. |
| 14:58.56 | Wobin | kenlyric: it's pretty situational |
| 14:58.59 | pHnk | Anyone knows where i can download the whole pack for http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2916/newzm2.jpg? |
| 14:59.00 | Codayus | >< |
| 14:59.03 | Towbar | not all rogues are spas ;) |
| 14:59.10 | kenlyric | Wobin: I find it useful in a lot of heroics. |
| 14:59.16 | kenlyric | when not doing heroics with idiots. |
| 14:59.24 | Eggi | but it would be very nice if you would get mana from it... not only as a good looking thing on the ground... |
| 14:59.24 | Codayus | Just the ones who try to use lightwell. |
| 14:59.28 | kenlyric | it's mostly wasted in a raid since you have lolspam pallies |
| 14:59.28 | Towbar | if your in a PUG you cannot whine |
| 14:59.29 | backbone | and why i got a talent ulti which is not useful in an endgame situation? |
| 14:59.52 | Codayus | What it needs is to drastically shorten (or remove) the cooldown, and (probably) increase the charges. |
| 14:59.54 | backbone | 5 man pve cant be endgame :/ |
| 15:00.00 | Wobin | hehe lolwell would be cool if you gained mp5 from standing in it |
| 15:00.01 | kenlyric | well, heroics are endgame if you don't raid :) |
| 15:00.13 | Grum | Wobin: that is a nice suggestion :) |
| 15:00.18 | Towbar | indeed |
| 15:00.20 | Ellipsis | that's like saying level 60 is endgame if you don't buy TBC |
| 15:00.22 | kenlyric | I don't think there's anything that says a endpoint talent is a raiding talent. |
| 15:00.27 | Eggi | then you should have finished your 'endgame' in about 3 weeks? |
| 15:00.28 | deltron | Wobin: you do if you're a paladin heh |
| 15:00.30 | durcyn | Ellipsis: go back to UBRS imo |
| 15:00.31 | Towbar | heroics are important |
| 15:00.33 | kenlyric | pretty sure that Slow isn't a raiding talent. |
| 15:00.35 | Ellipsis | durcyn: no u |
| 15:00.35 | Codayus | I can accept the "broken by damage" thing. Fine, it's not for tanks. But when it lasts for 60s, ahs 3 charges, and a 20 min cooldown... (Okay, I exagerate...) |
| 15:00.44 | durcyn | Ellipsis: rude |
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| 15:00.48 | Towbar | there is alot of nice gear to be had from heroics, that help endgame progression |
| 15:01.04 | Ellipsis | durcyn: no u!!! |
| 15:01.16 | Punkie` | sup |
| 15:01.25 | Codayus | Heh, the new Pain Supression might be a raiding talent...sort of... |
| 15:01.39 | kenlyric | force of nature: I bet that's a pain in a raid. |
| 15:01.40 | Towbar | castable sheild wall for pallys bears and tanks |
| 15:01.43 | Towbar | ofc it will |
| 15:01.53 | cryogen | who the hell will want to spec full disc though |
| 15:02.01 | Towbar | at the end of a fight when tanks are well clear on aggro |
| 15:02.02 | cryogen | it'll be.. painful to play outside of raids with |
| 15:02.02 | kenlyric | that's not the point. |
| 15:02.02 | Eggi | would destroy a healing priest if he specs 41 into disc |
| 15:02.08 | Towbar | pvp players will |
| 15:02.15 | kenlyric | <backbone>and why i got a talent ulti which is not useful in an endgame situation? |
| 15:02.16 | Codayus | Towbar: Of course? Hrm. -5% of total threat is...huge on some fights. And full disc...is not a raiding spec. |
| 15:02.17 | backbone | Towbar: sure but show me 1 talent ulti from other classes that gots so useless in raiding / pvp (pvp its not totally useless, but very very causul) |
| 15:02.18 | Towbar | who can have raid and pvp in one spec |
| 15:02.20 | kenlyric | lots of talents not useful in raids. |
| 15:02.23 | chexsum | anything past force of will is unk |
| 15:02.30 | chexsum | junk |
| 15:02.32 | cryogen | full disc is pretty useless at anything |
| 15:02.34 | backbone | which 31 or 41? |
| 15:02.45 | backbone | except priests |
| 15:02.46 | cryogen | cant dps, cant heal |
| 15:02.46 | baer_ | 2 disci-priests on a raid are nice. |
| 15:02.58 | baer_ | since PoS with 1 & 2 pts stack. |
| 15:03.00 | Grum | why? |
| 15:03.09 | Grum | they do? |
| 15:03.14 | baer_ | actually yes. |
| 15:03.15 | kenlyric | i mean, aimed shot is pretty useless for a raider but you still have to take it. |
| 15:03.15 | backbone | baer_: burning kealthas manabar? |
| 15:03.15 | sb | what? :o |
| 15:03.20 | kenlyric | at least you don't have to take lightwell |
| 15:03.29 | baer_ | backbone: actually my raid runs around in SSC. |
| 15:03.33 | Grum | baer_: mmmmmmm |
| 15:03.36 | Towbar | marks hunters in pve raids are illinformed |
| 15:03.37 | cryogen | kenlyric: aimed shot isnt a 41 point talent, duh. |
| 15:03.44 | Towbar | BM for raid dps and one survival |
| 15:03.46 | baer_ | might be a bug. |
| 15:03.49 | kenlyric | cryogen: neither is lightwell |
| 15:03.57 | backbone | baer_: or whatever boss ur on next ^^ |
| 15:04.03 | cryogen | then we're talking about different things |
| 15:04.04 | cryogen | my bad :) |
| 15:04.29 | baer_ | backbone: to be hones, we are still training on hydross & lurker. |
| 15:04.38 | backbone | warri: blood |
| 15:04.41 | Towbar | got your tanks kitted up? |
| 15:04.46 | backbone | oesgsaoignas |
| 15:04.47 | Towbar | for hydross? |
| 15:04.49 | baer_ | but it's great anyways, since 2 PoS add spelldmg. |
| 15:05.09 | Towbar | and lurker is a simple tact fight that ppl will learn, once you get the fight he is easy really |
| 15:05.11 | cryogen | how has that not been hotfixed yet? |
| 15:05.21 | cryogen | suppose having double spirit isnt that gamebreaking :p |
| 15:05.24 | Ellipsis | y u do dat |
| 15:05.27 | cryogen | shows how useless it is! |
| 15:05.31 | Towbar | are you a cute evul gnome or a fugly evul gnome? |
| 15:05.32 | kenlyric | I wish imp DS was bugged so if you have two ranks of it people can have two spirit buffs at the same time. |
| 15:05.41 | cryogen | kenlyric: that seems to be what baer_ is saying |
| 15:05.53 | kenlyric | no, he's talking about PoS |
| 15:06.09 | baer_ | PoS = Prayer of Spirit, talking about disci-priests |
| 15:06.22 | kenlyric | ok, I wondered what PoS was. |
| 15:06.24 | cryogen | which is the group version fo divine spirit, no? |
| 15:06.34 | baer_ | cryogen: exactly |
| 15:06.36 | Towbar | yes |
| 15:06.38 | kenlyric | baer_: so they get both spirit buffs? |
| 15:06.41 | Crysli | Towbar: I'm not gonna bitch about your UI, but haven't you considered scaling it a little down? |
| 15:06.42 | backbone | 23/38/0 is not disc |
| 15:06.46 | baer_ | Keias: right. |
| 15:07.18 | Towbar | crysli: yes, its still in development, i was using photek for as long as i can remember, and when he moved to photek X i hated it |
| 15:07.21 | baer_ | well, but full holy-priests ain't that interesting for raids anyways. |
| 15:07.22 | kenlyric | baer_: you mean chars actually have two spirit buffs on them at once? |
| 15:07.30 | Towbar | i really like the 2 chat panes and seperate combat log |
| 15:07.30 | baer_ | kenlyric: right. |
| 15:07.41 | baer_ | kenlyric: found out last friday in ssc. |
| 15:07.42 | kenlyric | do you get 100 spirit? |
| 15:07.46 | kenlyric | zomg hax |
| 15:07.50 | baer_ | yup |
| 15:07.53 | Towbar | then I thought what teh heck might as well make one from scratch |
| 15:07.55 | Crysli | Towbar: \o/ |
| 15:08.01 | backbone | bear_, if both are always in the raid, it is more efficient for one to spec x/4x/0 |
| 15:08.08 | kenlyric | oh, is this a 2.2 bug? |
| 15:08.10 | Codayus | Hmm, might be worth losing a CoH for... |
| 15:08.17 | sb | CoH sucks :p |
| 15:08.21 | kenlyric | backbone: not if you can have two spirit buffs at once! |
| 15:08.27 | baer_ | kenlyric: it was even an "accident", since one disci-priest buffed the wrong grp. |
| 15:08.30 | sb | *respec to 22/39* |
| 15:08.42 | backbone | yeah i know i always have 10 up |
| 15:08.44 | kenlyric | probably fixed in 2.2.2 :) |
| 15:08.51 | baer_ | possible. |
| 15:08.55 | sb | oh hm |
| 15:08.58 | sb | then respec tomorrow ;p |
| 15:09.01 | Codayus | CoH doesn't suck; its situational but it's excellent on many fights; especially in end game. |
| 15:09.06 | cryogen | am i really having to argue about tanking with our guild main tank? |
| 15:09.12 | baer_ | CoH? |
| 15:09.18 | Codayus | Er |
| 15:09.19 | Codayus | PoH |
| 15:09.22 | Codayus | Gah, tired. |
| 15:09.26 | Towbar | must say to the guild about that spi bug |
| 15:09.28 | cryogen | quote: i would prefare a warrior who will take most hits with parry and shield block on + good dodge than a druid who will take every hit he doesnt dodge as it comes druid has better dodge i have better shidl block and parry + good dodge also i believe that this make as equal |
| 15:09.30 | Towbar | traus will love it |
| 15:09.32 | durcyn | circle of healing is pretty swell too, bloodboil comes to mind |
| 15:09.35 | kenlyric | PoH is for inner focus. |
| 15:09.38 | Towbar | (reso druid) |
| 15:09.47 | Codayus | I don't even know what I'm talking about any more. |
| 15:10.06 | kenlyric | coh needs to go on healing prayers. |
| 15:10.09 | Punkie` | cryogen: druids are generally easier to heal as they take more continuous damage |
| 15:10.10 | baer_ | Towbar: +100 spi rocks for resto druids. |
| 15:10.16 | Towbar | cryogen: it depends alot on the encounter |
| 15:10.16 | Codayus | cryogen: Translating into english... uh... |
| 15:10.28 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub traus |
| 15:10.31 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Traus, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/8/53). 7824 HP; 8930 Mana; 315 mana regen; 139 mp5; 3.92% melee crit; 1953 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 762 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypx27u ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nrfux ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:10:46 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:10.32 | Towbar | he will love it :) |
| 15:10.33 | cryogen | Codayus: yes, that is often a problem i have with talking to him :) |
| 15:10.48 | cryogen | Towbar: we're specifically discussing morogrim in this thread |
| 15:10.49 | Eggi | if the eat crushings then not pinkie |
| 15:10.49 | Codayus | I think he's TRYING to say...that warriors are good because they're crushing immune. |
| 15:10.52 | backbone | cryogen: the most boss encounters are easier when class x tanks |
| 15:11.01 | baer_ | ain't 315 manareg pretty less for a resto druid? |
| 15:11.03 | Eggi | *they |
| 15:11.06 | Towbar | cryogen: imho, a bear is better than a warrior on that fight |
| 15:11.10 | Codayus | So while he dodges less, his average non-avoided hit is lower? |
| 15:11.18 | Towbar | backbone: he always has a SP |
| 15:11.24 | Towbar | or a shammy |
| 15:11.32 | cryogen | Towbar: thats what i said which prompted above comment :) |
| 15:11.32 | Codayus | Except he keeps saying PARRY, which is avoidance, not mitigation. Perhaps because he's confused... |
| 15:11.43 | Towbar | and only has to innervate himself if ever required, seen him innervate shamyms for a laugh |
| 15:11.58 | cryogen | Codayus: in general he knows what hes talking about but fails at communication lots, so you might be right |
| 15:12.30 | Towbar | cry: in which thread? |
| 15:12.34 | Crysli | I think I want Boomhoof to marry me(not really) |
| 15:12.35 | cryogen | Towbar: our guild forums :) |
| 15:12.39 | Towbar | ahh |
| 15:12.43 | Codayus | Anyhow, what he fails to realize is that Morogrim is going to chew through his shield block and crush him anyhow. |
| 15:12.46 | Towbar | public available? |
| 15:12.49 | Codayus | Which is why you need a pally tank! |
| 15:12.51 | cryogen | not this thread |
| 15:12.51 | Eggi | !c wrathbringer flashay |
| 15:12.51 | Towbar | and have you downed him yet? |
| 15:12.54 | cryogen | and no |
| 15:12.59 | Towbar | try a bear :) |
| 15:13.10 | Towbar | you got any nice druids? |
| 15:13.12 | cryogen | the thread started talking about how the healers were having mana trouble |
| 15:13.16 | Codayus | (Well, maybe. We can't find a pally tank to test. I hear Good Things though if you can find one without gimped HP.) |
| 15:13.17 | Eggi | !c eu wrathbringer flashay |
| 15:13.18 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush osse |
| 15:13.18 | Towbar | 4 part t4 or some crap |
| 15:13.19 | the-golem | big boss fights all block does is reduce damage a wee bit |
| 15:13.20 | ThraeBot | Eggi: Flashay, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (8/11/42). 8354 HP; 9350 Mana; 359 mana regen; 166 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 2162 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +3 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 755 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y5q3s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tfg8r ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:13:35 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:13.23 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Osse, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/46/14). 13308 HP; 6440 Mana; 144 mana regen; 6617 Armour; 668 AP; 129.700 Melee DPS; 17.92% melee crit; 53 +heal; 149 defense; 31.98% dodge; 69 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 601 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bpum7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xx6pv ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:13:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:13.27 | cryogen | thats our "best" druid |
| 15:13.46 | Towbar | 149 def? |
| 15:14.01 | Codayus | the-golem: Erm, it's a but more complex than that; block for warriors is what lets them be crushing immune; if they block too often they get crushed. Relevant for Morogrim because of Earthquake, I believe. |
| 15:14.03 | Towbar | is he crittable/ |
| 15:14.05 | Towbar | ? |
| 15:14.09 | cryogen | i have no idea |
| 15:14.10 | backbone | !c eu frostmourne lazl |
| 15:14.13 | ThraeBot | backbone: Lazl, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 8754 HP; 5540 Mana; 114 mana regen; 5276 Armour; 1182 AP; 171.500 Melee DPS; 26.72% melee crit; 82 melee hit; 37.82% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1139 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27rwsy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/334nxx ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:14:28 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:14.28 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub teryn |
| 15:14.30 | Towbar | :D |
| 15:14.31 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Teryn, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/49/11). 10904 HP; 6785 Mana; 102 mana regen; 7279 Armour; 810 AP; 140.900 Melee DPS; 16.80% melee crit; 18 melee hit; 155 defense; 34.70% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 91 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/275x4f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32en9e ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:14:46 2007 EST ]] |
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| 15:14.38 | cryogen | !eu haomarush tougherthanu |
| 15:14.41 | the-golem | wait what? |
| 15:14.42 | Towbar | ahh that must be ok them |
| 15:14.43 | cryogen | thats the warrior ^ |
| 15:14.44 | Codayus | You can GET passive crushing immunity, but if your working on morogrim, it'll gimp you too much I fear. |
| 15:14.46 | sb | baer_: not working for me :/ |
| 15:14.48 | backbone | he didnt wear his tank gear |
| 15:14.58 | the-golem | block makes them immune, but blocking MORE makes them not immune? |
| 15:15.11 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush tougherthanu |
| 15:15.14 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Tougherthanu, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (11/0/50). 14652 HP; 16941 Armour; 752 AP; 139.800 Melee DPS; 7.14% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 359 defense; 23.97% dodge; 25.46% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1040 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq77fm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39o6oc ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:15:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:15.28 | cryogen | can anyone do the math and turn osse's hp/armour into bear form numbers? |
| 15:15.31 | backbone | the fact that he blocks makes him immune, not the amount blocked |
| 15:15.31 | Towbar | cryogen: all can I say is, give it a go, and see if the healers prefer healing the tank or the bear :) |
| 15:15.47 | deltron | !c us uldum deltron |
| 15:15.48 | ThraeBot | deltron: deltron is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:16.01 | Codayus | the-golem: Warriors get a skill called Shield Block, with a short cooldown. Gives them a massive chance to block the next uh...2 attacks, I think, which ALSO means a 0% chance to be crushed. If a boss eats through the charges, then they no longer have a 0% crush chance. |
| 15:16.03 | Necrathex | we always use a warr for morogrim |
| 15:16.08 | Eggi | !c eu wrahtbringer eybice |
| 15:16.08 | ThraeBot | Eggi: eybice is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:16.09 | Necrathex | druids keep dying |
| 15:16.10 | Towbar | i am 70% sure they will prefer healing the bear |
| 15:16.11 | Punkie` | we used to always use a warrior |
| 15:16.18 | cryogen | ThraeBot: yeah, im trying to put that forward without it turning into a flamefest |
| 15:16.18 | Punkie` | but druids are generally better to heal |
| 15:16.23 | Punkie` | because a warrior cannot keep shield block up |
| 15:16.27 | Eggi | !c eu wrathbringer Eybice |
| 15:16.28 | deltron | shield block is 2 charges i think |
| 15:16.28 | cryogen | so i like to know what im talking about before i argue :) |
| 15:16.30 | ThraeBot | Eggi: Eybice, Level 70 Human Warrior (10/5/46). 16794 HP; 19062 Armour; 614 AP; 142.700 Melee DPS; 13.01% melee crit; 21 melee hit; 400 defense; 27.85% dodge; 31.64% block;[[ TBR: 937 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvtzms ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38b3ua ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:16:45 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:16.32 | Towbar | same with us until MT and second MT where on hols, and teh bear jumped in |
| 15:16.32 | deltron | paladins have 8 on theirs |
| 15:16.32 | the-golem | yeah 2 attacks in 5 seconds |
| 15:16.36 | backbone | depends on the boss punkie |
| 15:16.41 | baer_ | sb: sorry, was afk |
| 15:16.42 | Punkie` | we're talking about morogrim here |
| 15:16.44 | baer_ | did you test PoS? |
| 15:16.47 | deltron | holy shield = ftw |
| 15:16.52 | baer_ | or only DS? |
| 15:16.52 | sb | yup |
| 15:16.56 | sb | both |
| 15:17.10 | sb | more powerful spell blah |
| 15:17.13 | backbone | !c eu frostmourne zollinchen |
| 15:17.16 | ThraeBot | backbone: Zollinchen, Level 70 Dwarf Warrior (12/3/46). 15764 HP; 17007 Armour; 736 AP; 147.800 Melee DPS; 10.11% melee crit; 58 melee hit; 358 defense; 18.83% dodge; 37.51% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1610 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynlrst ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2zvzxs ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:17:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:17.27 | Punkie` | but anyway, warriors are generally better overall tanks due to their reduction in magic damage also |
| 15:17.34 | baer_ | have the screenshot somewhere mom |
| 15:17.35 | Bendo| | anyone have any idea how I can prevent CHANNEL_LIST from showing in chatwindows? I've tried RemoveChatWindowMessage() but it doesn't seem to do much, neither is CHANNEL_LIST showing up in GetChatWindowMessages() even though it's enabled |
| 15:17.36 | Codayus | Anyhow, the tradeoff is warrior who will occasionally get crushed, or a druid who gets crushed a lot but can survive it easier. Or a paladin, who won't get crushed, but tends to squish. |
| 15:17.43 | chexsum | druids are easier to heal until they get 2 shotted... |
| 15:17.48 | Codayus | My vote is, sub your best tank in, it'll be fine. |
| 15:17.58 | Eggi | they are not checkxsum |
| 15:18.00 | Towbar | but 7/10 pallys are a bit gimped on max HP |
| 15:18.01 | dreamss | i never seen a good pally tank |
| 15:18.06 | Eggi | no shieldwall, no pots, no last stand |
| 15:18.16 | Necrathex | our druid got 2shotted with crushings :/ |
| 15:18.16 | dreamss | they allways get raped |
| 15:18.22 | deltron | pally tanks are hard to gear |
| 15:18.24 | Towbar | protadins have their uses |
| 15:18.28 | Codayus | 2.3 should help. |
| 15:18.32 | Codayus | Some of the changes = sex. |
| 15:18.36 | backbone | !c eu frostmourne macey |
| 15:18.37 | cryogen | how much hp/armour does bear form add? |
| 15:18.40 | ThraeBot | backbone: Macey, Level 70 Human Paladin (43/13/5). 9907 HP; 11748 Mana; 323 mana regen; 191 mp5; 16913 Armour; 77.700 Melee DPS; 5.01% melee crit; 121 spell crit; 229 +spell dmg; 1744 +heal; 4.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 37 shadow resist; 37 fire resist;[[ TBR: 966 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cwjjd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2njo4p ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:18:54 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:18.40 | Elkano | Kuja^, pong? |
| 15:18.44 | Necrathex | pallies get hp |
| 15:18.47 | Towbar | deltron: just bring them to pallyzhan then pallys lair and they can get ncie gear in a day |
| 15:18.48 | the-golem | 400% for dire bear |
| 15:18.49 | Codayus | Yeah! |
| 15:18.55 | cryogen | 400% armour? |
| 15:18.57 | the-golem | like 180% normal bear |
| 15:18.58 | Megalon | 25% stamina |
| 15:19.03 | deltron | Towbar: I've been doing that on my pally lol |
| 15:19.15 | dreamss | pallyzhan |
| 15:19.16 | dreamss | hehehe |
| 15:19.16 | Towbar | we do kara and gruuls with alts and mains |
| 15:19.18 | cryogen | does 26k sound right? |
| 15:19.23 | the-golem | cryogen: yeah |
| 15:19.24 | dreamss | why gruul? |
| 15:19.29 | Codayus | The problem is, prot pallies suck before T5 instances but they need T4 gear...bit of a problem... |
| 15:19.29 | dreamss | its like a waste of time |
| 15:19.31 | deltron | t4 i guess |
| 15:19.32 | the-golem | in dire bear, thats about right |
| 15:19.33 | cryogen | is that good or average? |
| 15:19.37 | Necrathex | trinket :p |
| 15:19.47 | Towbar | and caster cloak |
| 15:19.49 | Punkie` | karazhan is almost 100% alts |
| 15:19.49 | Towbar | and shield |
| 15:19.54 | Punkie` | if not alts, casuals :P |
| 15:19.55 | backbone | druids hit the cap on raids (without inspiration) |
| 15:19.56 | Codayus | Our only prot pally went on long-term hiatus because he never got to tank in T4 instances. Now we need him. :-( |
| 15:19.59 | the-golem | a bit above average, i think |
| 15:20.04 | cryogen | k |
| 15:20.06 | Punkie` | ask [Ammo], lucky bastard :p |
| 15:20.28 | Punkie` | think he got like 8 plate pieces on his alt paladin including the shield from the chess |
| 15:20.33 | Punkie` | on his first run :P |
| 15:20.37 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 15:20.50 | deltron | I got a ton of pally healing gear on my tankadin |
| 15:20.54 | deltron | stuff I'll never use |
| 15:20.57 | Towbar | but prot pallys can heal in prot spec ok with heal gear too, so still semi raid viable when its on farm |
| 15:21.08 | the-golem | i got 4 pieces on my first week in kara |
| 15:21.21 | cryogen | how much % avoidance does a warrior need, generally? |
| 15:21.42 | Towbar | depends alot on progression |
| 15:21.48 | Codayus | Avoidance? Need? *shrug* It just kinda happens. |
| 15:21.52 | Punkie` | i dont know why people hate healing so much :P |
| 15:21.57 | Crysli | I like healing |
| 15:22.02 | Elkano | total against 73? 75%+ I think |
| 15:22.02 | Towbar | i like playing mates priests and shammys |
| 15:22.08 | dreamss | i like healing on my resto shaman |
| 15:22.14 | the-golem | by getting good defense, they get good avoidance ^^ |
| 15:22.15 | Towbar | resto shammys are fun |
| 15:22.17 | Punkie` | people seem to always make paladins |
| 15:22.22 | dreamss | it gets boring when u have istances on farm status |
| 15:22.23 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Thirsk |
| 15:22.23 | dreamss | tho |
| 15:22.26 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Thirsk, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/5/48). 14694 HP; 16420 Armour; 658 AP; 142.300 Melee DPS; 11.73% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 338 defense; 17.58% dodge; 26.63% block;[[ TBR: 1045 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26woyw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s7x5n ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:22:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:22.27 | Punkie` | then start going 'OMG!!11 TEH RET!!121' |
| 15:22.30 | Towbar | pallys are the best single heal target healer for sure |
| 15:22.38 | SunTsu | cryogen: If skilled right, a bear tank will have 450% bonus |
| 15:22.38 | Codayus | There's our MT; about right for a guild with a couple T5 bosses down. |
| 15:22.51 | Zicon | After seeing the amount of tactics tanks and DPS has to deal with compared to what healers have to deal with, I'm loving healing more and more. :p |
| 15:22.54 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub xeph |
| 15:22.55 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Xeph, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (8/5/48). 16074 HP; 16306 Armour; 702 AP; 143.100 Melee DPS; 13.72% melee crit; 35 melee hit; 378 defense; 24.69% dodge; 30.22% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1259 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cw982 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2njdqe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 08:01:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:22.56 | Towbar | our MT |
| 15:23.08 | Towbar | he got 20% parry too |
| 15:23.14 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul mistblade |
| 15:23.16 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Mistblade, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (10/0/51). 13214 HP; 10042 Armour; 832 AP; 150.000 Melee DPS; 7.09% melee crit; 330 defense; 18.65% dodge; 23.97% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1487 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrruer ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/349fm9 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:23:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:23.20 | Towbar | your tank needs more hit rating btw |
| 15:23.21 | the-golem | thats me /cry |
| 15:23.27 | Towbar | miss = lost threat |
| 15:23.37 | Towbar | and chance of gibbed priest :) |
| 15:23.42 | Towbar | on a pickup |
| 15:24.31 | the-golem | oh oooops |
| 15:24.34 | the-golem | not wearing my shield |
| 15:24.36 | the-golem | shame on me |
| 15:24.41 | Towbar | lol |
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| 15:24.53 | the-golem | ii was like 10k armor? wtf .. |
| 15:25.16 | Towbar | ok my pvp gear updated: |
| 15:25.23 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub towbar |
| 15:25.26 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 11084 HP; +10 Energy; 1270 AP; 318.200 Melee DPS; 27.70% melee crit; 72 melee hit; 25.41% dodge; 367 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 940 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytuftp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p76yo ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:25:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:25.30 | Towbar | do that comparison again :) |
| 15:25.31 | the-golem | ... |
| 15:25.35 | Elkano | !c eu mannoroth diaz |
| 15:25.38 | ThraeBot | Elkano: Diaz, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/0/53). 12714 HP; 15841 Armour; 888 AP; 129.300 Melee DPS; 6.11% melee crit; 365 defense; 19.31% dodge; 19.50% block; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 1197 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27yz7u ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s8rbl ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:25:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:25.42 | Codayus | Towbar: Heh, yeah, your tank asa lot more T5 loot. |
| 15:25.42 | the-golem | why doesnt the bot have parry in there? |
| 15:25.43 | baer_ | sb: are you sure it does not work anymore? |
| 15:25.51 | Codayus | A *LOT* more. |
| 15:25.51 | Towbar | cod: yea :) |
| 15:25.58 | Towbar | and teh 4 part is awesome for threat |
| 15:26.02 | Towbar | its up all the time |
| 15:26.07 | Codayus | Someday..someday... |
| 15:26.34 | Eggi | 4p t6 is the best thing you can get for threat |
| 15:26.59 | Codayus | Xeph...has way too much def. May not have much choice... |
| 15:27.01 | the-golem | too bad warrior T4 is mostly ass |
| 15:27.10 | Codayus | But that's not optimal use of item budget IMHO. :-) |
| 15:27.21 | baer_ | according to the 2 disci-priests in my guild it still works, they just tried. |
| 15:27.39 | Codayus | the-golem: Yeah, the Kara off-set gear is quite a bit better, mostly. Maiden gloves, Curator legs (especially those, they're amazing). |
| 15:28.01 | CIA-12 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r50656 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow: Committing so I can look at this at work |
| 15:28.02 | *** join/#wowace Thirsteh (n=thirsteh@linuxfordummies/Thirsteh) |
| 15:28.04 | Towbar | !vs eu azjol-nerub towbar eu outland sofia |
| 15:28.05 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar vs Sofia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 19/42/0 vs 41/20/0; Sofia wins by 830 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 15:28.10 | Towbar | :O |
| 15:28.15 | Towbar | lies |
| 15:28.24 | Towbar | no iwa |
| 15:28.25 | Towbar | wai |
| 15:28.59 | Towbar | cod: yea he has dropped some off def recently |
| 15:29.04 | Towbar | he cannot loose anymore |
| 15:29.13 | Towbar | he was at 546 def at one point |
| 15:29.18 | Codayus | Eeep |
| 15:29.22 | Towbar | and had too much mitigation, couldnt get threat |
| 15:29.30 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 15:29.36 | Towbar | so he dropped it for more sta and parry |
| 15:29.40 | Towbar | parry > dodge |
| 15:29.46 | Codayus | Well, plus, if you can get 546 def...you can hit the def cap and get a lot more stam. |
| 15:29.47 | Towbar | more rage generation |
| 15:29.47 | the-golem | Elkano: why is that warriors block so low? :-( |
| 15:29.47 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 15:29.52 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 15:29.54 | Towbar | = more threat |
| 15:30.24 | Towbar | xeph is pretty sick though |
| 15:30.31 | Towbar | got him to tank BM heroic and we wiped |
| 15:30.39 | Towbar | he took no dmg for one entire mob |
| 15:30.48 | Towbar | 300 tps |
| 15:30.59 | Towbar | so i bought him 4 green plate items of stamina |
| 15:31.04 | Towbar | went back and ownd the place |
| 15:31.06 | Towbar | lol |
| 15:31.17 | Codayus | Heh |
| 15:31.17 | the-golem | Codayus: yeah :-) Just got curator legs this week ^^ |
| 15:31.23 | Towbar | gz :) |
| 15:31.25 | cryogen | does anyone actually take MS warriors to raids? |
| 15:31.38 | Codayus | the-golem: Good; they'll last you till T5. :-) |
| 15:31.48 | Towbar | depends on gear, MS warrior can be better dps than fury if the fury warrior has no hit rating |
| 15:32.04 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush sharkyhun |
| 15:32.06 | chexsum | fury warriors still exist ? |
| 15:32.08 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Sharkyhun, Level 70 Orc Warrior (31/30/0). 10904 HP; 10015 Armour; 1716 AP; 253.200 Melee DPS; 32.57% melee crit; 74 melee hit; 6.62% dodge; 5.00% block; 235 resilience;[[ TBR: 1520 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fxrnu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36prbp ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:32:22 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:32.10 | Towbar | thats another thing, warriors get hit rating on merc gear :( |
| 15:32.12 | Codayus | cryogen: Kinda sorta. Not really. Used to be a good argument for blood um...frenzy? Nice debuff. And 2H slam did okay with windfury. |
| 15:32.13 | Towbar | not fair |
| 15:32.17 | the-golem | chexsum: for some reason :-/ |
| 15:32.21 | Codayus | Then WF totem got nerfed, so now it's back to fury. |
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| 15:32.33 | Towbar | but whats your miss rate? |
| 15:32.33 | cryogen | thats our dps warrior |
| 15:32.38 | cryogen | people are bitching at him a lot |
| 15:32.42 | Towbar | 74 hit... |
| 15:32.43 | cryogen | im wondering if they have a case |
| 15:32.46 | Towbar | 74.. |
| 15:32.51 | the-golem | arms is getting nerfed a bit in 2.3 |
| 15:32.56 | Towbar | tell him to 2H |
| 15:32.58 | Codayus | There's a couple of vaguely MS pve builds around, but the old 31/30/0 sucks. :-) |
| 15:32.59 | cryogen | he IS 2h |
| 15:33.02 | Towbar | his DPS will rocket |
| 15:33.07 | Codayus | It relied WAY too much on pre-nerf WF. |
| 15:33.10 | Towbar | he would have to be with 74 hit rating |
| 15:33.14 | cryogen | :) |
| 15:33.17 | Towbar | :) |
| 15:33.19 | CIA-12 | 03deccard * r50657 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 15:33.19 | CIA-12 | MiniChat: |
| 15:33.19 | CIA-12 | - /mc or /minichat now opens Waterfall config if Waterfall is enabled or a Dewdrop menu if not |
| 15:33.33 | Towbar | pre nerf WF was imba |
| 15:33.39 | cryogen | Codayus: what should he be? |
| 15:33.41 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 15:33.44 | Towbar | i remember holding 1700 dps on vashj in phase 1 |
| 15:33.50 | Towbar | now its 1300 ish |
| 15:34.01 | Codayus | Lemme find our dps warrior...if I can remember how to spell his name... |
| 15:34.16 | Towbar | armory your own char then select him in guild list |
| 15:34.21 | Codayus | I am. :-) |
| 15:34.25 | cryogen | im all for allowing any spec people like |
| 15:34.26 | Towbar | hehe |
| 15:34.28 | cryogen | but id at least like them to be useful |
| 15:34.45 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Gilthanas |
| 15:34.47 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Gilthanas, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (17/44/0). 10144 HP; 9583 Armour; 1824 AP; 223.900 Melee DPS; 34.19% melee crit; 120 melee hit; 8.28% dodge; 5.00% block; 66 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1835 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fktn8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kuvwe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:35:02 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:35.04 | Towbar | 2H or DW? |
| 15:35.07 | Codayus | He does alright. Worth the slot as a battle shout bot if nothing else. |
| 15:35.09 | Codayus | And DW. |
| 15:35.15 | Towbar | 120 hit.. |
| 15:35.16 | Megalon | dw with 120 melee hit? |
| 15:35.20 | chexsum | i was power infusing a boomkin a few weeks ago in guuls :) |
| 15:35.21 | Towbar | and 6% from talents/ |
| 15:35.22 | Towbar | ? |
| 15:35.41 | cryogen | anyone got a link to a viable 2h warrior? :) |
| 15:35.51 | chexsum | 8k starfires tw |
| 15:35.52 | Codayus | Hit is surprising poor for DW warriors. I'm not familiar with the spreadsheets, but I did see an EJ thread about it. |
| 15:35.52 | Towbar | sec |
| 15:35.53 | chexsum | ftw |
| 15:36.08 | Towbar | oomkins got the highest scaling spell in the game |
| 15:36.08 | Megalon | warriors only get 3% hit from talents |
| 15:36.12 | Codayus | And empirically, he's been slowly swapping hit OUT for crit recently, and climbing on the meters. |
| 15:36.16 | Towbar | 3% hit for a "H |
| 15:36.18 | Towbar | 2H |
| 15:36.23 | Towbar | is it not more for DW? |
| 15:36.23 | Codayus | Make of it what you will. *shrug* |
| 15:36.29 | Towbar | sec i check |
| 15:36.35 | Megalon | it's a +3hit talent |
| 15:36.45 | Megalon | don't know what you wanna check there :o |
| 15:36.50 | cryogen | Codayus: crit is better than hit, sometimes |
| 15:37.06 | cryogen | crit reduces your chance to miss too |
| 15:37.10 | Towbar | if the 2 roll system is true it might be |
| 15:37.19 | Megalon | cryogen: no, it doesn't |
| 15:37.46 | the-golem | i need more +hit |
| 15:37.47 | cryogen | it doesnt, doesnt it? for specials at least |
| 15:37.58 | cryogen | specials being two roll, non specials being one |
| 15:37.58 | Codayus | Certainly for white melee damage, crit converts hits to crits, it doesn't convert misses. |
| 15:38.19 | Codayus | I believe the testing for rogue specials indicated a two roll system? And I don't know anyone tested warriors. :-) |
| 15:38.20 | Towbar | but if you got 8.6% hit you cant miss specials i think |
| 15:38.31 | Towbar | so it wouldnt matter |
| 15:38.31 | cryogen | that sounds right |
| 15:38.37 | cryogen | so i just got the two confused |
| 15:38.47 | cryogen | (thankfully i dont play a melee class, so its all good) |
| 15:38.51 | Towbar | elitest jherks ftw |
| 15:38.53 | Towbar | jerks |
| 15:38.54 | cryogen | indeed |
| 15:38.58 | cryogen | mind blowing stuff sometimes, though |
| 15:39.06 | Codayus | Anyhow, Gil isn't challenging our rogues for top slot, but he's beating our warlocks. |
| 15:39.12 | Towbar | yea those guys are seriously into their theorycraft |
| 15:39.17 | Codayus | ....our poor, confused, highly challenged warlocks... |
| 15:39.21 | cryogen | hehe |
| 15:39.26 | cryogen | <3 our warlocks |
| 15:39.26 | Towbar | we have a sick lock... |
| 15:39.31 | Codayus | ....of course, prot warriors do too.... |
| 15:39.33 | Towbar | seriosuly he is nut |
| 15:39.41 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush naptime |
| 15:39.44 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Naptime, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/21/40). 8868 HP; 8956 Mana; 106 mana regen; 229 spell crit; 40 spell hit; 969 +spell dmg; 50 arcane dmg (1019); 158 fire dmg (1127); 4.28% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 755 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b6374 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wdcas ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:39:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:39.45 | cryogen | our resident firelock ^ |
| 15:39.47 | Codayus | We had one, but he stopped playing. Grad school... |
| 15:39.47 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerug leto |
| 15:39.48 | ThraeBot | Towbar: leto is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:39.54 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub leto |
| 15:39.57 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Leto, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (6/44/11). 8982 HP; 8369 Mana; 104 mana regen; 178 spell crit; 136 spell hit; 991 +spell dmg; 183 frost dmg (1174); 285 shadow dmg (1276); 4.47% dodge; 16 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1342 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hjm5x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ydysj ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:40:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:40.03 | the-golem | Codayus: prot warriors beat your warlocks? |
| 15:40.19 | Codayus | If they're trying to DPS? Sometimes, some of them...yes. |
| 15:40.20 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@72.73-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 15:40.26 | the-golem | lol |
| 15:40.28 | Towbar | waht! |
| 15:40.30 | Towbar | rofl |
| 15:40.32 | Codayus | Our GOOD lock does ~500 dps. It goes down from there. |
| 15:40.38 | the-golem | thats sad |
| 15:40.39 | cryogen | lol |
| 15:40.47 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:40.50 | dreamss | my lvlo 69 lock does 500 dps |
| 15:40.51 | Codayus | We're recruiting warlocks, incidentally. >< |
| 15:40.55 | dreamss | and goes up to 1k |
| 15:40.59 | the-golem | i'd imagine |
| 15:41.02 | dreamss | horde coday?? |
| 15:41.07 | baer_ | Codayus: server plz? :) |
| 15:41.10 | Towbar | leto can knock out 1600 dps |
| 15:41.14 | Codayus | Lightbringer, US, Alliance. |
| 15:41.19 | dreamss | locks are the easiest class |
| 15:41.20 | Towbar | then he has to hold back to wait for soul shatter again |
| 15:41.21 | baer_ | oh damn. |
| 15:41.23 | dreamss | and most complivated |
| 15:41.24 | the-golem | no way |
| 15:41.25 | baer_ | can't help you with that. |
| 15:41.29 | the-golem | hunters are easier |
| 15:41.31 | the-golem | :-) |
| 15:41.32 | baer_ | EU Todeswache here |
| 15:41.37 | Codayus | Fail. :-( |
| 15:41.43 | LetheKai|Away | Hi guys, I haven't played a rogue since the Rag days, is Cheat Death a useful talent for raiding? (30% chance to avoid killing blow) |
| 15:41.57 | Codayus | I have managed to recruit ONE person from this channel already though! |
| 15:41.58 | Towbar | absolutely no way in hell |
| 15:42.09 | Towbar | you wont need it with that deep sub spec |
| 15:42.12 | cryogen | Codayus: reroll horde and id level my warlock and join you :p |
| 15:42.13 | Towbar | cause you cant dps |
| 15:42.15 | chexsum | i seen a rogue cheat death in pvp one time :x |
| 15:42.16 | Codayus | Only if you routinely try to evasion tank Gruul... |
| 15:42.16 | LetheKai|Away | Haha. |
| 15:42.18 | the-golem | LetheKai|Away: yeah no .. if he missed you the first time he'll squish you the next hit ^^ |
| 15:42.23 | Towbar | its a pvp talent |
| 15:42.27 | baer_ | any ally-paladins here that want to be recruited? :-} |
| 15:42.37 | LetheKai|Away | There's a +10% Attack Power talent semi-deep in subtlety, I think that's nice. =( |
| 15:42.42 | cryogen | baer_: again, reroll horde :p |
| 15:42.50 | Towbar | yea but you will miss so many attacks |
| 15:42.53 | baer_ | cryogen: no way, i like gnomes :) |
| 15:42.55 | Towbar | and sub is burst dmg |
| 15:43.01 | cryogen | only alliance char i have is a mage |
| 15:43.04 | cryogen | and its on a pve server |
| 15:43.06 | Towbar | i am a 19-42-0 pve rogue btw |
| 15:43.06 | Zicon | baer_: What does wache mean? I don't have a german dictionary handy... Wake? Watch? Or am I completely off? |
| 15:43.06 | Codayus | You have to give up too much... |
| 15:43.19 | LetheKai|Away | Let me look. My boyfriend's planning out his rogue and I'm trying to give him input. |
| 15:43.19 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50658 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Fix mixins |
| 15:43.24 | baer_ | Zicon: some kind of guardian. |
| 15:43.32 | Towbar | you have no energy regen and are gimped on hit / offhand dmg |
| 15:43.35 | Zicon | baer_: Ah. |
| 15:43.40 | baer_ | Zicon: "Todeswache" ist the german name for the guardians in brill and UC. |
| 15:43.42 | LetheKai|Away | So Towbar, there are +hit talents elsewhere? |
| 15:43.48 | Zicon | baer_: I see! Thanks. |
| 15:43.53 | Towbar | mid combat tree |
| 15:43.58 | Towbar | precission |
| 15:44.00 | Codayus | Raiding rogue = combat tree... |
| 15:44.04 | Towbar | yup |
| 15:44.19 | chexsum | any rogue = combat tree atm |
| 15:44.29 | the-golem | one of our rogues just respec'd combat maces |
| 15:44.36 | Codayus | ! us Lightbringer Lanakila |
| 15:44.40 | Towbar | my spec on armory is the best combat sword dps spec you can have pre BT where murder will be dropped |
| 15:44.40 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Lanakila |
| 15:44.43 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5485A0F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:44.43 | the-golem | he likes to go hit shit before it gets to me :-( |
| 15:44.44 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Lanakila, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 8774 HP; 1708 AP; 384.100 Melee DPS; 28.25% melee crit; 271 melee hit; 27.56% dodge; 24 resilience;[[ TBR: 1309 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynntj2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3x5eqh ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:44:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:44.52 | chexsum | combat mace damage is silly right now |
| 15:44.55 | LetheKai|Away | Precision is 2nd tier combat, I gave him that already. =P |
| 15:44.56 | the-golem | stunned mobs ftl |
| 15:44.56 | baer_ | !c eu Todeswache Gingles |
| 15:44.56 | Towbar | combat dags |
| 15:45.01 | ThraeBot | baer_: Gingles, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/2/18). 7830 HP; 7615 Mana; 107 mana regen; 139 spell crit; 117 spell hit; 700 +spell dmg; 129 frost dmg (829); 129 shadow dmg (829); 4.47% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1329 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cn87q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34f7sl ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:45:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:45.07 | Codayus | Whatever she's got's probably good... |
| 15:45.10 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul darksamus |
| 15:45.12 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Darksamus, Level 70 Human Rogue (17/44/0). 9354 HP; 1088 AP; 285.900 Melee DPS; 19.80% melee crit; 106 melee hit; 20.64% dodge;[[ TBR: 852 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z4dsx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jf65z ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:45:28 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:45.28 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Thro |
| 15:45.31 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Thro, Level 70 Human Rogue (19/42/0). 8884 HP; 1779 AP; 393.300 Melee DPS; 24.53% melee crit; 283 melee hit; 25.44% dodge; 39 resilience;[[ TBR: 1467 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvxkb2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qaagy ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:45:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:45.31 | baer_ | damn, forget to change from my fishing equip again. ^^ |
| 15:45.37 | LetheKai|Away | So Towbar, he's got precision - why else would a subtlety rogue miss too much? |
| 15:45.48 | Codayus | A few variations... |
| 15:45.57 | chexsum | my rogues dagger but is jealous of how easy mace rogueing is |
| 15:46.46 | Towbar | Towbar, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 8344 HP; 1715 AP; 373.800 Melee DPS; 25.19% melee crit; 280 melee hit; 27.06% dodge; 20 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 816 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytuftp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p76yo ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 10:15:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:46.52 | Towbar | in pve gear |
| 15:47.07 | Towbar | yea i am never playing daggers again |
| 15:47.12 | Towbar | way too much hassle |
| 15:47.16 | LetheKai|Away | Hehe. |
| 15:47.18 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:47.29 | Towbar | LetheKai|Away: combat potency |
| 15:47.35 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.47 | Towbar | thats why deep combat |
| 15:47.55 | LetheKai|Away | Yeah, I can see that's good energy generation but not accuracy. |
| 15:47.57 | LetheKai|Away | Hmm. |
| 15:48.03 | cryogen | does that site that had wow census data still exist? |
| 15:48.27 | Towbar | and 41 point 10% dmg to sinisters etc and finishers cannot be dodged |
| 15:48.41 | durcyn | cryogen: http://www.warcraftrealms.com |
| 15:48.47 | cryogen | thats the one |
| 15:48.50 | Towbar | seriosuly there is no better pve tree for a rogue than 41 point combat |
| 15:49.05 | Towbar | seriously* |
| 15:49.19 | LetheKai|Away | I guess it's not an issue for experienced, well-oiled raiding guilds, but 15% extra chance to avoid all AoE attacks seems like it'd be nice for newer raid guilds... Easier on healers, less dying hehe. |
| 15:49.49 | Towbar | if you are dying its because your dmg sucked so hard the healers went OOM |
| 15:49.51 | Towbar | :P |
| 15:49.51 | cryogen | well, if you got that low in hp, you either did something wrong, or you will die anyway |
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| 15:50.08 | cryogen | it's primarily a pvp talent, iw ould have thought |
| 15:50.13 | LetheKai|Away | A lot of bosses are constantly AEing, you don't have to DIE from it to be hit by it and require healing. -_- |
| 15:50.23 | Towbar | what bosses? |
| 15:50.30 | Towbar | give examples |
| 15:50.31 | dreamss | best use would be prince in kz |
| 15:50.32 | dreamss | hehe |
| 15:50.33 | LetheKai|Away | I'm talking about 15% dodge to AE, not the 30% don't-die talent. |
| 15:50.43 | Towbar | dont stand in an elemental |
| 15:50.43 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50659 10FlexBar2/embeds.xml: FlexBar2: Fix modules.xml |
| 15:50.45 | Towbar | next? |
| 15:50.48 | LetheKai|Away | Haha. |
| 15:50.48 | the-golem | fuck |
| 15:50.57 | Towbar | maiden? |
| 15:51.00 | the-golem | wow needs to finsih patching |
| 15:51.06 | Towbar | run out and bandage and take a HS / pot |
| 15:51.07 | Kaydeethree | new live build: 2.2.2.7272 diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 15:51.07 | dreamss | nah the shadow blowup thingy |
| 15:51.09 | Towbar | next? |
| 15:51.24 | nevcairiel | rogues should always go for dps, not for survivability |
| 15:51.30 | Towbar | dreamss: use CoS for every third one and 3k heal isnt alot |
| 15:51.33 | dreamss | unless u die a lot |
| 15:51.35 | Towbar | jsut run back when its coming |
| 15:51.53 | Saroz | Anyone had problems with losing the chat channels when you log in? |
| 15:51.53 | dreamss | Towbar, if u dint notice u had emfeble uit might save ur ass |
| 15:51.53 | Towbar | plus you can resist alot with prayer of shadow prot |
| 15:51.54 | LetheKai|Away | I never said it was necessary Towbar, I said it sounds useful for a newer raid guild, where organization and mana is still an issue. =P |
| 15:52.05 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 15:52.11 | Towbar | tbh |
| 15:52.33 | Towbar | with your lack of dps from sub spec the encounter will last longer and as such healers will go OOM faster imo |
| 15:52.44 | rubik | is there a way to see updated svn commits on a web page? something like trac? (for wowace svn)? |
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| 15:52.46 | LetheKai|Away | Could be true. |
| 15:52.47 | Towbar | dont forget pots and HS are lifesavers |
| 15:53.06 | Towbar | seriously deep sub spec will half your dps |
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| 15:53.11 | Towbar | not kidding |
| 15:53.19 | Towbar | maybe even less depending on gear |
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| 15:53.43 | cryogen | Towbar: heh, i blinded the MT with science and he went emo :/ |
| 15:53.45 | cryogen | i hate this guild |
| 15:53.46 | Saroz | Anyone had problems with losing the chat channels when you log in? |
| 15:53.59 | LetheKai|Away | You don't even want to see what he had before. >.< I love him, but he's a little... erm. Doesn't always have his eyes on the prize so to speak. I think he was hoping to raid in this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com:80/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0000000000000000000000050552110050100000000005022501032321103030300 |
| 15:54.10 | LetheKai|Away | I haven't Saroz, you mean General and stuff? |
| 15:54.18 | Saroz | custom channels |
| 15:54.23 | Towbar | cryo: lol |
| 15:54.26 | LetheKai|Away | Ah, I haven't checked. |
| 15:54.36 | Towbar | ~emo |
| 15:54.37 | purl | /wrists |
| 15:54.39 | LetheKai|Away | lol |
| 15:54.50 | LetheKai|Away | Towbar: Look at it. It'll shock you imo. |
| 15:54.56 | cryogen | his response was something along the lines of "so warriors suck? fine i dont see why i should continue to raid then" |
| 15:55.04 | cryogen | .. which is not what i said at all :) |
| 15:55.13 | Towbar | checking |
| 15:55.19 | LetheKai|Away | Man, being in a raid guild sucks if the MT isn't cool. |
| 15:55.21 | Towbar | lol |
| 15:55.26 | LetheKai|Away | I'm sorry Cryo. >.< |
| 15:55.30 | Towbar | different horses for different courses |
| 15:55.40 | Towbar | warriors cant tank everything |
| 15:55.53 | cryogen | yeah |
| 15:55.57 | cryogen | he doesnt understand that though |
| 15:56.07 | Towbar | hmmm at that spec |
| 15:56.10 | cryogen | it doesnt help that some of our members are "special" and dont argue their case well |
| 15:56.22 | LetheKai|Away | Is he one of those Warriors that gets offended at the idea that Druids and Paladins might be able to tank at all? |
| 15:56.22 | cryogen | LetheKai|Away: hes a nice guy.. just a little "special" sometimes |
| 15:56.26 | cryogen | yep |
| 15:56.28 | Towbar | if he is gong to go that deep into sub then he should have at the very least taken hemo to boost melee dps |
| 15:56.31 | LetheKai|Away | lol |
| 15:56.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen: how good is that tard's gear ? |
| 15:56.53 | LetheKai|Away | There are a LOT of things he should have "at the very least" taken imo. =( |
| 15:57.09 | cncfanatics | I hate the kind of warriors that think they're the sole and master tanks |
| 15:57.11 | LetheKai|Away | He's got a lot of defensive talents. |
| 15:57.19 | LetheKai|Away | Like... most of them. |
| 15:57.24 | Towbar | what weapons has he? |
| 15:57.29 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the warrior? |
| 15:57.36 | LetheKai|Away | We're not capped yet, we're leveling new chars. |
| 15:57.36 | Towbar | the rogue sry |
| 15:57.36 | cncfanatics | cryogen, yea |
| 15:57.47 | cryogen | cncfanatics: /msg ThraeBot c eu haomarush thougherthanu |
| 15:57.48 | TNSe | hmm |
| 15:57.52 | cncfanatics | if my gear is better then his i'm gonna laugh at that tard (doubt it is, only 13k hp and taurens can get stipdly more) |
| 15:57.55 | TNSe | who was author of threat1.0 again :P |
| 15:58.07 | cncfanatics | doesnt exist cryogen |
| 15:58.08 | Towbar | ovviously not daggers if he didnt take opertunity |
| 15:58.23 | cryogen | ~c eu haomarush thougherthanu |
| 15:58.27 | LetheKai|Away | Towbar: I don't think he knows. I think he's avoiding weapon-based talents because he doesn't know what he'll be using. |
| 15:58.33 | cncfanatics | its !c ? |
| 15:58.36 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush thougherthanu |
| 15:58.37 | ThraeBot | cryogen: thougherthanu is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:58.48 | cryogen | armoury is screwed or something then |
| 15:58.49 | cryogen | moment |
| 15:58.52 | dylanm | !c eu haomarush tougherthanu |
| 15:58.53 | ThraeBot | dylanm: Tougherthanu, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (11/0/50). 14652 HP; 16941 Armour; 752 AP; 139.800 Melee DPS; 7.14% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 359 defense; 23.97% dodge; 25.46% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1040 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq77fm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39o6oc ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 11:15:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:59.02 | cncfanatics | omg that guy sucks hard if he thinks he's it all |
| 15:59.02 | dylanm | Hurray |
| 15:59.05 | Towbar | if he is daggers, and has made a sub spec that doesnt include oppertunity then he should be castrated so that he can not polute the rest of the world |
| 15:59.11 | LetheKai|Away | Towbar: Like I said earlier, last time I raided on a rogue was when Rag was it, and back then daggers were the best raid DPS. You suggest what now? Maces? |
| 15:59.15 | cryogen | there it is |
| 15:59.23 | cncfanatics | I'm no tauren and only got 1.5k hp less then him (and palas got 1k less hp then warriors in the first place) |
| 15:59.29 | cncfanatics | so that guy actualy has 500hp more then me WITH his racial |
| 15:59.31 | cncfanatics | total tard :p |
| 15:59.39 | [dRaCo] | LetheKai|Away: Combat Swords |
| 15:59.40 | LetheKai|Away | Sorry, daggers were the best raid DPS in my guild* - I didn't do any research out of my guild hehe. |
| 15:59.42 | Towbar | i like maces for pvp benifits, but for full max dps in raids swords are best imo |
| 16:00.00 | cryogen | hes a nice guy |
| 16:00.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, can u tell that guy for me he's a tard and that my pala owns him ? |
| 16:00.02 | cryogen | hes just a bit emo |
| 16:00.08 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:00.10 | cncfanatics | make him cut his fucking wrists |
| 16:00.23 | cryogen | hes like 40 or something too |
| 16:00.25 | LetheKai|Away | Thanks... You guys think maces can squeeze by in PvE? I know he's gonna wanna PvP. |
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| 16:00.30 | Towbar | cryogen: jsut tell him you will get him a nice cake for his 13th borthday and it will be ok |
| 16:00.37 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:00.37 | Towbar | birthday* |
| 16:00.39 | cryogen | thats the funny part |
| 16:00.47 | cryogen | he acts like a 12 year old but hes one of the eldest guild members |
| 16:00.53 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 16:00.56 | LetheKai|Away | I've known a few people like that. |
| 16:01.00 | dylanm | Yeah if you're still emo at that age it's going to be a tough thing to change |
| 16:01.01 | cncfanatics | sigh, tards tards tards ... |
| 16:01.01 | Towbar | indeed |
| 16:01.07 | cryogen | thankfully hes older than me |
| 16:01.09 | cryogen | :D |
| 16:01.12 | cncfanatics | if anyone in my guild was like that I'd gkick them |
| 16:01.17 | Towbar | seems like a controll freak to me |
| 16:01.20 | cryogen | ye |
| 16:01.20 | cncfanatics | (not that I got a guild or even a 70 main but) |
| 16:01.21 | cryogen | he is |
| 16:01.21 | LetheKai|Away | It's not so much that they're immature as they are set in their ways hehe. Old-fashioned. Warriors used to be the best tanks. |
| 16:01.28 | cryogen | and sadly hes holding back guild progression |
| 16:01.28 | cncfanatics | so what ? |
| 16:01.31 | cncfanatics | they're not anymore |
| 16:01.31 | cryogen | the guild leadership sucks |
| 16:01.36 | cncfanatics | fuck tards and gkick them |
| 16:01.39 | Towbar | yea but the game has changed alot since MC BWL NAXX |
| 16:01.41 | cryogen | im a born guild leader(own trumpet, i know) but dont have the time to take full control |
| 16:01.45 | cncfanatics | one day I'll have a lvl 70 again and I'll fucking raid |
| 16:01.47 | LetheKai|Away | I know cnc, I just figure that's why he's so stubborn about it. |
| 16:01.59 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|Away: u know what I do with that kind of ppl ? |
| 16:02.03 | cncfanatics | SH heroic, timed run |
| 16:02.04 | cryogen | Towbar: you remember envy, right? :p |
| 16:02.05 | cncfanatics | the slowest one sucks |
| 16:02.09 | LetheKai|Away | lol |
| 16:02.11 | Towbar | think so yea |
| 16:02.11 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|Away: the warrior can't win |
| 16:02.17 | cryogen | that was my guild |
| 16:02.22 | Towbar | nice :) |
| 16:02.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, server ? |
| 16:02.25 | LetheKai|Away | Cryo: What server? |
| 16:02.26 | cryogen | haoamrush |
| 16:02.31 | LetheKai|Away | Bah. |
| 16:02.31 | cryogen | haomarush even |
| 16:02.32 | cncfanatics | EU/US ? |
| 16:02.33 | LetheKai|Away | Not my Envy. |
| 16:02.34 | cryogen | EU |
| 16:02.35 | LetheKai|Away | =( |
| 16:02.36 | Towbar | i was GM in royalty and Saints and sinners for ages |
| 16:02.38 | cryogen | cant type today, apparently |
| 16:02.39 | cncfanatics | wth is that for server name ? |
| 16:02.43 | LetheKai|Away | lol cnc |
| 16:02.46 | Towbar | got sick of the hassel tbh, prefer jsut raiding now :) |
| 16:02.50 | cryogen | yeah me too |
| 16:02.52 | cncfanatics | btw, I'm currently rerolling on kazzak, anyone wanne reroll with meh ? :p |
| 16:02.56 | cryogen | although i hate to see incompetence :( |
| 16:03.01 | cryogen | cncfanatics: so tempted its not funny |
| 16:03.02 | Towbar | horde or ally? |
| 16:03.08 | cncfanatics | horde ofc |
| 16:03.11 | cryogen | what level ar eyou? |
| 16:03.11 | cncfanatics | kazzak actualy is balanced |
| 16:03.14 | cncfanatics | only 24 |
| 16:03.19 | LetheKai|Away | I was in the best guild I've ever experienced on Smolderthorn (Envy), but took a break from WoW and when I came back they were gone. Now THAT was a good MT. Sigh. |
| 16:03.20 | cncfanatics | started recently |
| 16:03.31 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|Away: best tank ever |
| 16:03.36 | sedai| | new patch :D |
| 16:03.41 | sedai| | YAY |
| 16:03.41 | cncfanatics | !c eu silvermoon crsvirtua |
| 16:03.41 | sedai| | nasklfjbnejg |
| 16:03.45 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Crsvirtua, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (11/1/49). 15292 HP; 15445 Armour; 788 AP; 142.300 Melee DPS; 6.60% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 335 defense; 16.11% dodge; 24.05% block; 30 resilience;[[ TBR: 964 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynkdsc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pwzyj ][ Updated: Tue Oct 2 12:03:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:03.45 | cncfanatics | that guy rocked |
| 16:03.49 | cryogen | id love to start a new char with someone that didnt suck |
| 16:03.50 | LetheKai|Away | That's a mouthful. |
| 16:03.54 | cryogen | sadly i dont have time to play hardcore these days |
| 16:04.00 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'm coding 3/4th of my time |
| 16:04.05 | cryogen | i play for a couple of hours once every couple of days at most |
| 16:04.09 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 16:04.09 | sedai| | i is leveling my 43 shaman |
| 16:04.15 | LetheKai|Away | By good MT, though, I mean he tanks well, but more importantly he was mad dedicated, extremely mature, and very nice to everyone. |
| 16:04.17 | cncfanatics | cryogen, if u wanne join up, please come |
| 16:04.21 | sedai| | SMaaash! |
| 16:04.22 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50660 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 16:04.22 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:04.22 | CIA-12 | - fix active option not being retrieved properly. |
| 16:04.22 | CIA-12 | - properly detect bars on login (not just reloadui) |
| 16:04.24 | cryogen | wife steals my laptop most evenings, shes hooked on online games :D |
| 16:04.24 | Towbar | i was thinking of making a shammy or a druid, cannot decide |
| 16:04.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'm rerolling a rogue atm |
| 16:04.32 | LetheKai|Away | lol Cryo |
| 16:04.36 | cncfanatics | actualy temped to rereroll a warrior |
| 16:04.38 | LetheKai|Away | Time to get her her own. |
| 16:04.42 | cncfanatics | cuz I god damn love to tank so god damn much on my pala |
| 16:04.47 | cryogen | LetheKai|Away: she actually suggested that last night |
| 16:04.50 | cryogen | i just paid for mine though. :p |
| 16:04.51 | cncfanatics | but palas are meh to tank cuz of crap blizz, warriors still better |
| 16:04.52 | LetheKai|Away | I know cnc! I'm leveling a tankadin atm. |
| 16:05.00 | LetheKai|Away | It's SO fun! |
| 16:05.01 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|Away: warriors are better |
| 16:05.05 | LetheKai|Away | Haha. |
| 16:05.06 | LetheKai|Away | >.< |
| 16:05.10 | cncfanatics | not funny either |
| 16:05.12 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i have an alt of every class, it would be difficult to decide which to start :) |
| 16:05.22 | LetheKai|Away | I can't play warriors. I hate starting when an empty "mana bar." I guess I'm retarded that way. |
| 16:05.24 | cncfanatics | i'm rerolling a lil rogue and enjoying it, I like melee |
| 16:05.33 | LetheKai|Away | When = with. |
| 16:05.39 | Towbar | i got a sweet rogue atm and a 6 days at 70 played SP thats mostly epic and thinking of making another |
| 16:05.41 | cncfanatics | since I started my pala I cant play anything but melee |
| 16:05.43 | cryogen | a mage is tempting |
| 16:05.48 | cncfanatics | cryogen, mages rock :) |
| 16:05.52 | cncfanatics | got a 70 mage |
| 16:05.54 | cncfanatics | used to love him |
| 16:05.55 | Towbar | meh |
| 16:06.04 | Towbar | frost mages can burn in hell |
| 16:06.04 | cryogen | i raided a lot on my 60 gnome :) |
| 16:06.06 | cncfanatics | anyone that feels like rerolling on EU join me xD |
| 16:06.10 | Towbar | lolblock in pvp.. |
| 16:06.10 | LetheKai|Away | Hehe, I just rolled a little Warlock. I've never been able to play one before due to extreme Shardphobia. |
| 16:06.12 | cncfanatics | cryogen, same on my lil undead firemage |
| 16:06.18 | cncfanatics | loved aq40 so god damn much as mage |
| 16:06.21 | cryogen | oh yes |
| 16:06.22 | cryogen | <3 |
| 16:06.23 | cncfanatics | skill tests at battleguard sartura :) |
| 16:06.26 | cncfanatics | BLINK |
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| 16:06.28 | cncfanatics | dead :( |
| 16:06.32 | Towbar | pve wise they are gimped these days compared to locks |
| 16:06.37 | dodga | Can somebody make a big fat shiny blinking panel in WAU with the following text in it: "this is beta software" :D |
| 16:06.40 | LetheKai|Away | Isn't everyone? |
| 16:06.41 | cncfanatics | Towbar, depends |
| 16:06.42 | cryogen | i was the source of much mockery on sartur |
| 16:06.43 | cryogen | a |
| 16:06.50 | cryogen | it was "will galencia survive today? place your bets now!" |
| 16:06.50 | LetheKai|Away | Uh oh Dodga, hehe. |
| 16:06.52 | cncfanatics | I have always beaten everyone pre-tbc on the meters as firemage (that includes bwl) |
| 16:06.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, same here |
| 16:07.01 | cncfanatics | but dead or alive |
| 16:07.05 | cncfanatics | I was at the top of the dmgmeter at the end |
| 16:07.12 | sedai| | servers come up in 2 hours |
| 16:07.14 | cncfanatics | and had a soulstone lock bitch |
| 16:07.15 | dodga | Yeah and maybe add "some stuff is even alpha. or not useable at all. expect your computer to blow up" :D |
| 16:07.16 | Towbar | yea pre tbc mages own meters |
| 16:07.16 | cryogen | my own personal challenge was to survive until at least the last phase :p |
| 16:07.20 | Towbar | and fury warriors |
| 16:07.24 | LetheKai|Away | Oh, jeez, I didn't even remember the servers are down. |
| 16:07.29 | sb | dodga: no - why? :o |
| 16:07.29 | LetheKai|Away | Have you guys tried the voicechat? I hate it. |
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| 16:07.30 | cryogen | but people liked to hamper my efforts |
| 16:07.31 | cncfanatics | Towbar, even in BWL fire = win |
| 16:07.36 | cncfanatics | god I loved the dog boss in bwl |
| 16:07.38 | cryogen | I HAVE AGGRO, WHEE RUN TO GALENCIA! |
| 16:07.38 | sedai| | i like the new voice chat |
| 16:07.39 | dodga | sb: In hope for less stupid threads on the forums :> |
| 16:07.43 | sedai| | it works really well |
| 16:07.46 | Towbar | i was fully epic with gm dags and strugleing to keep up with worse geared warriors |
| 16:07.50 | cncfanatics | cryogen, remember that dog boss in bwl ? |
| 16:07.56 | cryogen | chromaggus |
| 16:07.58 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 16:08.03 | cncfanatics | 5 stacks of fire vulner |
| 16:08.04 | cryogen | he was annoying :/ |
| 16:08.06 | cncfanatics | and he gets vulnerable to fire |
| 16:08.09 | cncfanatics | NUUUKE |
| 16:08.12 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:08.15 | cryogen | yepyep |
| 16:08.18 | sb | dod: well no, people that need this text wont understand what 'beta software' means :o |
| 16:08.22 | sedai| | only cause of that knock back |
| 16:08.26 | cryogen | i remember 2k ignite ticks on vuln mobs |
| 16:08.29 | cryogen | .. non stacked |
| 16:08.31 | cncfanatics | cryogen, wanne reroll with me then ? :p |
| 16:08.33 | dodga | sb: No, people that bitch about things breaking need that text :D |
| 16:08.34 | LetheKai|Away | Really Sedai? I haven't tried it with a lot of people, but I noticed immediately that individual volume settings vary a LOT. I can barely hear my BF over the headset and can hear another friend loud and clear - the friend can hear the boyfriend loud but can't hear me - the BF can hear me but not the friend. |
| 16:08.36 | cncfanatics | rolling ignites = wi,n |
| 16:08.36 | cryogen | its tempting :) |
| 16:08.39 | cncfanatics | had 20k ignites |
| 16:08.41 | cncfanatics | lol I loved that |
| 16:08.43 | cryogen | dont think i can play tonight though |
| 16:08.44 | sedai| | as a rogue it was like, last to get heals but front of dps, rogues need help |
| 16:08.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u know what I'm gonna do now ? |
| 16:08.58 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.59 | Towbar | you can normalise vent |
| 16:09.01 | cryogen | haha |
| 16:09.02 | cncfanatics | that'll decide my class |
| 16:09.06 | cryogen | good idea |
| 16:09.08 | Towbar | one of our guildies found settings for it |
| 16:09.15 | Towbar | i have it setup and its awesome |
| 16:09.16 | LetheKai|Away | Towbar: That's why I like Vent > WoW Voicechat. |
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| 16:09.19 | cryogen | id love to have a tankadin :p |
| 16:09.20 | Towbar | want me to find the link? |
| 16:09.28 | cryogen | but i dont think i can endure the pain of levelling another |
| 16:09.31 | uzaR000 | i swear towbar |
| 16:09.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I love them, but, they're bad compared to warriors :/ |
| 16:09.39 | LetheKai|Away | Me too Cryo! I'm making one but it entirely depends on the guild I join whether or not I get to keep it. |
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| 16:09.43 | uzaR000 | everytime i look at irc, you are chatting |
| 16:09.48 | Towbar | yup |
| 16:09.53 | Towbar | no calls yet today at all :) |
| 16:09.53 | cncfanatics | same here uzaR000 |
| 16:09.56 | cryogen | maybe if i actually get a decent char on kazzak i can transfer something there :p |
| 16:09.57 | cncfanatics | at least when i'm online |
| 16:09.59 | Towbar | means i am doing my joy right |
| 16:10.03 | Towbar | job |
| 16:10.13 | uzaR000 | give me your number, ill call you lol |
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| 16:10.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.17 | Towbar | :P |
| 16:10.23 | cncfanatics | uzaR000, where u work ? |
| 16:10.28 | cncfanatics | used to work at amex callcenter in brussels here |
| 16:10.30 | uzaR000 | Denmark :P |
| 16:10.43 | Adirelle|Work | question for locks : is there a spell that redirects damage from your pet to yourself ? |
| 16:10.45 | uzaR000 | <-- Electrician |
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| 16:10.57 | cncfanatics | Adirelle|Work: soul link does both |
| 16:11.01 | LetheKai|Away | Heyyy, I did a report on Denmark in 5th grade! Or was it Norway... |
| 16:11.04 | cncfanatics | you take dmg, your pet takes, your pets takes, you take |
| 16:11.05 | LetheKai|Away | ... |
| 16:11.33 | LetheKai|Away | No I think it was Norway. I made open-faced sandwiches. |
| 16:11.38 | Codayus | .... |
| 16:11.41 | LetheKai|Away | lol |
| 16:11.43 | Vires | No... pet's incoming damange doesn't affect you, at least last time I used it didn't... |
| 16:11.44 | haste | what? |
| 16:11.49 | Adirelle|Work | cncfanatics: 20%, that's right ? |
| 16:11.51 | haste | wth is open-faced sandwhices? |
| 16:12.02 | LetheKai|Away | Haste: They forget to put on the top piece of bread in Norway. *nods* |
| 16:12.03 | cryogen | mmm, open faces club sandwich |
| 16:12.05 | cryogen | faced |
| 16:12.06 | cncfanatics | Adirelle|Work: think its 30% |
| 16:12.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, wanne reroll or not ? |
| 16:12.16 | haste | LetheKai|Away: I'm norwegian :p |
| 16:12.21 | LetheKai|Away | Hahahahaha |
| 16:12.21 | cncfanatics | can make a lil talking guild and level to 70 at our ease |
| 16:12.28 | LetheKai|Away | I was in 5th grade, don't hate me. |
| 16:12.33 | cryogen | cncfanatics: sounds like a good idea :) |
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| 16:12.44 | haste | LetheKai|Away: so basically... bread requires you to have two pices :p ? |
| 16:12.45 | zac | cncfanatics: no, it was reduced to 20%. |
| 16:12.46 | Codayus | Pft, sounds like a personal provlem to me. |
| 16:12.54 | Adirelle|Work | cncfanatics: hrm wowhead said it's 20% and only from warlock to pet, that's why I asked |
| 16:12.54 | LetheKai|Away | Haste: SANDwiches do! |
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| 16:12.56 | Codayus | ....problem... |
| 16:12.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'll finish up my homework dutch asap then |
| 16:13.06 | cncfanatics | then we can /roll what we'll be |
| 16:13.08 | cncfanatics | horde ofc ? |
| 16:13.08 | cryogen | im not home for another 30 mins |
| 16:13.10 | cryogen | ye |
| 16:13.11 | cryogen | ! |
| 16:13.20 | cncfanatics | any other rerollers ? while we're at it :po |
| 16:13.25 | cryogen | not sure when i will be able to wrestle the laptop off the wife |
| 16:13.29 | cryogen | maybe @ 8ish |
| 16:13.29 | haste | then don't call it open-faced sandwiches.. so confusing! |
| 16:13.32 | LetheKai|Away | Sorry, I just rerolled on Ravenholdt. >.< |
| 16:13.50 | LetheKai|Away | Haste: I didn't name them either! They weren't very good, some of them had sardines on them. |
| 16:13.55 | Nandini | perhaps we should call our sandwiches here two-faced sandwiches instead |
| 16:14.00 | LetheKai|Away | Hah. |
| 16:14.01 | Towbar | vent normalisation: |
| 16:14.02 | Towbar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=39358D301F92C1F969BF8368B1264967?topicId=711968723&sid=1 |
| 16:14.03 | Nandini | mmm lutefisk |
| 16:14.04 | Codayus | A sandwich with...sardines.... |
| 16:14.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, if ur both playing games, why don't u both have a laptop ? |
| 16:14.19 | Towbar | and it works brilliantly |
| 16:14.25 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i only just got her hooked on them |
| 16:14.32 | LetheKai|Away | Towbar: Is it gonna normalize my WoW Voicechat? |
| 16:14.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then buy her one :p |
| 16:14.33 | LetheKai|Away | =P |
| 16:14.36 | cncfanatics | and let her reroll on kazzak too ? |
| 16:14.39 | cncfanatics | the more souls the more fun |
| 16:14.41 | cryogen | haha |
| 16:14.45 | Towbar | nope it normalises ventrillo chat |
| 16:14.47 | cryogen | i would love it if she did play wow |
| 16:14.50 | cryogen | alas she does not |
| 16:14.53 | cncfanatics | hehe, why not ? :o |
| 16:14.54 | Towbar | makes quiet ppl louder and loud ppl normal |
| 16:14.58 | cryogen | she just plays web based stuff |
| 16:15.00 | LetheKai|Away | I need something to normalize WoW Voicechat! I know how to do Ventrilo. |
| 16:15.02 | Codayus | Nothing can save WoW voice chat. :-( |
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| 16:15.10 | cryogen | shes not big into computers |
| 16:15.11 | LetheKai|Away | =( |
| 16:15.14 | Towbar | f*** wow voice chat |
| 16:15.16 | cncfanatics | cryogen, lol |
| 16:15.17 | LetheKai|Away | lol |
| 16:15.18 | cncfanatics | RS ? -.- |
| 16:15.20 | cncfanatics | thats full of suck |
| 16:15.20 | Towbar | i want my hardware 5.1 sound back |
| 16:15.24 | Towbar | :( |
| 16:15.25 | LetheKai|Away | Awww. |
| 16:15.44 | Codayus | Although we do have 1 guildie who can't get vent working for some reason. |
| 16:15.54 | LetheKai | Is the character female? |
| 16:15.58 | Codayus | Every time we get a dozen people in a channel they get kicked. |
| 16:15.58 | Towbar | did he install vent mix over normal vent? |
| 16:16.03 | LetheKai | Juuuust kidding. |
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| 16:16.20 | LetheKai | What's Vent Mix? |
| 16:16.22 | Codayus | I dunno, I think sylvanaar is male. |
| 16:16.23 | cncfanatics | gah, I need to find a nice news picture for dutch and comment on it, anyone with nice news pics ? |
| 16:16.29 | Codayus | :-) |
| 16:16.30 | Towbar | ventrillomix - 2.1 2.2 2.3 & TS in one |
| 16:16.37 | Towbar | google ventmix |
| 16:16.41 | Codayus | Odd though. |
| 16:16.41 | LetheKai | TS? Teamspeak? |
| 16:16.42 | Ellipsis | ventmix fails |
| 16:16.52 | Towbar | TS teamspeak 2 in vent mix yea |
| 16:16.52 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen, I'm of the opinion u should try flexbar if ur rerolling xD its uberhandy for lvl'ing chars imo :p |
| 16:16.57 | cryogen | cncfanatics: rofl |
| 16:16.58 | Ellipsis | even using it, your server passwords from 2.3 get deleted when you use one of the other versions |
| 16:16.59 | LetheKai | I hate TS. >| |
| 16:17.03 | Towbar | you cant have 2.1 2.2 and 2.3 vent instaled at once |
| 16:17.06 | Ellipsis | yes you can |
| 16:17.07 | Ellipsis | I do |
| 16:17.08 | Towbar | ventmix gets around that |
| 16:17.12 | Ellipsis | I don't use ventmix either |
| 16:17.13 | Towbar | thats vent mix |
| 16:17.13 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 16:17.22 | Ellipsis | it's not hard |
| 16:17.37 | Ellipsis | you just have to copy the folders out to somewhere else |
| 16:17.42 | LetheKai | I'm just gonna use whatever version of vent the server requires. -_- |
| 16:17.43 | cryogen | cncfanatics: in other words, you want a victim^Wguinea pig? |
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| 16:18.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, na, its stable now :p |
| 16:18.31 | cncfanatics | its actualy "released" |
| 16:18.34 | cryogen | woot |
| 16:19.08 | cncfanatics | cryogen, and there's a nice slashcommand reference in the zip |
| 16:19.14 | cncfanatics | its REALLY helpful to set it up |
| 16:19.24 | LetheKai | Do you guys wanna give me advice on good Warlock mods? I got the Grimoire Keeper or whatever, and I already have ClassTimers, but Warlocks have some funky stuff to keep track of. |
| 16:19.28 | cryogen | its available via wua i guess? |
| 16:19.38 | the-golem | who was the guy that posted this http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8823/january002xa6.jpg |
| 16:19.56 | the-golem | i like the bars ^^ |
| 16:19.56 | cncfanatics | cryogen, WAU |
| 16:20.00 | cncfanatics | yea, should work fine |
| 16:20.01 | cryogen | yeah that |
| 16:20.05 | cncfanatics | and has no known bugs atm |
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| 16:20.06 | cryogen | i always get that wrong |
| 16:20.08 | LetheKai | Holy crap, that is the cleanest UI I've ever seen. |
| 16:20.10 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: what in particular? |
| 16:20.15 | cncfanatics | I'm actualy wanting people to give me bug reports, but they ran out :( |
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| 16:20.21 | Crysli | That would be me |
| 16:20.24 | Towbar | mine is SO cleaner than that :P |
| 16:20.28 | Crysli | The UI, that is |
| 16:20.32 | the-golem | ROFL towbar |
| 16:20.37 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: I can try using it on my main now if you like, that's sure to generate a few (hundred) for yuo :P |
| 16:20.40 | Crysli | Towbar has the cleanest UI ever |
| 16:20.45 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, hehe |
| 16:20.46 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.53 | LetheKai | Ellipsis: Shamefully, I'm not sure what all they need. Something to track seduce would be nice, right? And something to indicate if groupmates have buffs Felhunter can eat, but only when Felhunter is out...? And something to track SS? Unless ClassTimers already does that. |
| 16:20.55 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, ur always great at getting errors nobody else gets |
| 16:21.06 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/repairs-24-09-2007.jpg |
| 16:21.08 | the-golem | alt+z doesnt count :P |
| 16:21.08 | Towbar | my UI |
| 16:21.19 | cncfanatics | omg os much buttons |
| 16:21.21 | cncfanatics | so* |
| 16:21.21 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: any proper timers should track seduce (assuming you use focus macros) or a pet cast bar on your UFs will do it as well |
| 16:21.30 | cncfanatics | put some remaps in there Towbar |
| 16:21.30 | Ellipsis | devour is another good one to macro |
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| 16:21.40 | Crysli | So anyway the-golem - you liked the bars? |
| 16:21.46 | Ellipsis | as for SS, I highly recommend SoulJarFu |
| 16:21.47 | LetheKai | Err. =x I don't use focus at all. They seem to have put that in since I last played. |
| 16:21.53 | Ellipsis | yeh |
| 16:21.56 | Ellipsis | learn to use it |
| 16:21.57 | the-golem | yes |
| 16:22.02 | Ellipsis | it will make your life so much easier |
| 16:22.14 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, please try it and tell ur bf :) |
| 16:22.28 | Ellipsis | not to mention you can't reliably track CC's like banish unless you have the cc target focused |
| 16:22.35 | Crysli | the-golem: It's just 3x eePanels with bartender on top |
| 16:22.39 | Ellipsis | will do cncfanatics - he just left for work but I'll get him on it tonight =] |
| 16:22.50 | LetheKai | I haven't explored it much. I just guessed it lets you designate a focus target that's either friend or foe so you can see their bar? I guess people must make a lot of focus macros then so they can simultaneously do things to other targets... Gawd, that'd be confusing. |
| 16:23.02 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, u don't work btw ? seems ur always on |
| 16:23.04 | the-golem | Crysli: well, not that everythign is all grey, but i like the layout |
| 16:23.09 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: it's not bad once you get used to it...I can explain how I use it if you want :) |
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| 16:23.13 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: nah, pro slacker :D |
| 16:23.20 | LetheKai | Ellipsis: If you don't mind. |
| 16:23.22 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, damn you |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r50661 10DrDamage/Data/Warlock.lua: |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-12 | DrDamage: |
| 16:23.23 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Incinerate bug |
| 16:23.24 | Crysli | the-golem: Ooh, you meant the unitframes? |
| 16:23.25 | the-golem | Crysli: what are you using for the castbar? |
| 16:23.36 | Crysli | the-golem: That would be Quartz |
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| 16:23.39 | the-golem | Crysli: zomg, sorry, yeah |
| 16:23.41 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: I have a key bound to focus target (in default keybindings options) - I use ctrl+f |
| 16:23.53 | the-golem | althought the bars themselves look nice too |
| 16:23.54 | Ellipsis | so when I'm assigned a CC target I hit ctrl-f to set it as my focus |
| 16:24.02 | Ellipsis | then I use a macro like /cast [target=focus] Banish |
| 16:24.19 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, if u got time to spend feel free to volunteer for http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8959.0 then ^^ |
| 16:24.21 | Ellipsis | or seduce for humanoids |
| 16:24.25 | LetheKai | Ooh, so the ClassTimer would should the seduce bar at the focus health bar thing... |
| 16:24.37 | LetheKai | That's terribly clever. =D |
| 16:24.44 | Ellipsis | yes, ClassTimer will show the seduce bar under the "focus" group =] |
| 16:24.45 | the-golem | when i was saying "bars" i really meant "health bars" or something similar |
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| 16:24.54 | the-golem | not to be confused with "actionbars" ^^ |
| 16:25.11 | Crysli | the-golem: Yeah I figured. Well, it's just Pitbull with, like, everything off. |
| 16:25.15 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: I'll consider it, I'm not great at GUI code but I'd be happy to design/sketch the interface layout =] |
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| 16:25.52 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I'd do it myself normaly but I lack time :( |
| 16:26.04 | LetheKai | I need more fingers. =\ I can only hit 1 - 6 reliably, shift+ 1 - 6, and ctrl+ 1 - 4. -_- I leave alt for self-casting, but only use that for 1 and 4 (heals on Pally), and I guess I could unbind alt altogether for a Warlock... |
| 16:26.04 | cncfanatics | can't both play , code flexbar , code slashcommands and code a gui all at once + school |
| 16:26.20 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: I am mostly keybound, struggling with the last few |
| 16:26.28 | durcyn | LetheKai: I just use Quartz target/focus duration bars, since they're pulled from the real timers |
| 16:26.34 | sedai| | i is artist |
| 16:26.39 | sedai| | i is no coder |
| 16:26.39 | the-golem | Crysli: what texture for the unitframes? |
| 16:26.49 | LetheKai | Me too Sedai. =D That's why I'm not making any mods. -_- |
| 16:26.49 | cncfanatics | sedai|: designing a gui is art |
| 16:26.50 | Fisker- | Punkie`afk |
| 16:26.51 | sedai| | yet because of the times, one must learn |
| 16:26.57 | Crysli | the-golem:Minimalist |
| 16:26.58 | Towbar | i use mmouse for almost everything |
| 16:27.01 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: I use `-5, with shift modifier for a second bar |
| 16:27.02 | Fisker- | I put on my wizards hat and robe |
| 16:27.04 | sedai| | oh i know about gui design |
| 16:27.06 | LetheKai | Durcyn: More accurate than ClassTimers? |
| 16:27.06 | cncfanatics | sedai|: and i'm everything but an artist :p |
| 16:27.08 | sedai| | good stuff :D |
| 16:27.19 | cncfanatics | sedai|: feel like working on a HUGE gui project ? |
| 16:27.21 | sedai| | i call it "eye space" |
| 16:27.26 | durcyn | LetheKai: haven't checked classtimers, but unless it's using the debuff duration API it won't show early breaks |
| 16:27.33 | the-golem | *sigh* |
| 16:27.37 | sedai| | I'd consider it |
| 16:27.37 | LetheKai | Hmm, tilde... but that's my new push-to-talk button. I hate push-to-talk buttons though. |
| 16:27.39 | the-golem | game is still down |
| 16:27.39 | Towbar | cnc: would that be teh national cleanup towbars UI project? |
| 16:27.40 | Codayus | durcyn: I beleive it does. |
| 16:27.45 | the-golem | i really hate patch tuesday |
| 16:27.47 | sedai| | kinda short on time though -_- |
| 16:27.54 | Ellipsis | push to talk = mouse4 tbh |
| 16:27.58 | LetheKai | Sedai: You have a deviantART or anything? |
| 16:28.01 | LetheKai | My mouse is busy. =( |
| 16:28.08 | durcyn | LetheKai: You can also get fancy with the focus macros, such as http://ace.pastey.net/74760 |
| 16:28.10 | the-golem | Ellipsis: that sucks with you only have Mouse1-3 ^^ |
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| 16:28.13 | LetheKai | Oh god. |
| 16:28.18 | Ellipsis | the-golem: get a better mouse then :P |
| 16:28.20 | LetheKai | Fancy with macros is probably the last thing I need lol. |
| 16:28.23 | cncfanatics | sedai|: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8959.0 , put short, I need someone to design me a GUI for flexbar, I can help for the API calls part ofc |
| 16:28.26 | sedai| | Ellipsis: I use a Belkin Nostromo Speedpad n52 |
| 16:28.35 | durcyn | LetheKai: it's just four lines. one macro to set focus, cast on it, then clear it |
| 16:28.46 | Ellipsis | durcyn's macro is pretty good |
| 16:28.51 | LetheKai | Alright, I'll look. *scared* |
| 16:28.55 | sedai| | cncfanatics: ill check it out, thanks |
| 16:28.59 | Ellipsis | I prefer to do the focusing manually, separate from the macro |
| 16:29.02 | the-golem | Ellipsis: yeah, maybe ^^ |
| 16:29.24 | Ellipsis | but for someone who wants ez-mode or has more limited keybind space, a macro like that is a good way to go |
| 16:29.26 | LetheKai | It seems like a good idea to keep the focus if it's CC you're doing, but... I dunno, maybe you need to focus on something else too? |
| 16:29.43 | cncfanatics | ok also, SOMEONE give me a good picture I can give comments on about any random news, I need to write a one page long report |
| 16:29.46 | durcyn | if i need to change my cc target, i just /focus it manually |
| 16:29.57 | durcyn | that macro will keep it until it dies or despawns |
| 16:30.06 | Ellipsis | I just focus the CC, and target the dps target |
| 16:30.18 | Ellipsis | if I have to do double CC or what have you - I improvise :P |
| 16:30.19 | LetheKai | Oh, thought you meant clear the focus when you said "then clear it". So it just clears after it dies? |
| 16:30.31 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 16:30.43 | Kaelten | WOOT! |
| 16:30.47 | sedai| | i cant seem to get Pitbull's maintank and main target frames to cooperate |
| 16:30.52 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r50662 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: - Reinigende Kraft -> Reinigende Macht |
| 16:30.55 | durcyn | the first two lines /clearfocus only if it's dead/gone, the third line sets /focus only if you don't have one yet, and the fourth line casts banish on focus if you have one set |
| 16:30.55 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.05 | Towbar | cnc: any pic? |
| 16:31.09 | Ellipsis | is that on PTR? |
| 16:31.13 | durcyn | Kaelten: 15 minute cooldown, you poor bastard. |
| 16:31.22 | Kaelten | I don't care! KCI is going to get better |
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| 16:31.32 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: planned for 2.3 |
| 16:31.40 | the-golem | lolwut? |
| 16:31.40 | Ellipsis | Kaelten: slowpoke, we've been drooling over that function for days in here :P |
| 16:31.47 | Kaelten | I've been busy :P |
| 16:31.57 | the-golem | querying the AH for all items will have a 15 min cooldown? |
| 16:31.59 | cncfanatics | Towbar, of flexbar2 ? |
| 16:31.59 | LetheKai | BTW this was my UI before 2.2: http://www.chronalis.com/images/lethe/super-ui.jpg =D I swapped KTM for Omen and got rid of the HUD and fiddled with some other stuff since then, but not a lot. I have like a million mods. >.< |
| 16:32.00 | Ellipsis | I was hoping 2.3 was actually up on PTR sos people could test it |
| 16:32.02 | Ellipsis | yeah the-golem |
| 16:32.05 | Kaelten | the-golem: yes |
| 16:32.08 | cncfanatics | Towbar: http://cncfanatic.free.fr/flexbar2.jpg |
| 16:32.16 | Kaydeethree | 2.3'll probably be up later in the week |
| 16:32.22 | cncfanatics | Towbar: can also be skinned by cy |
| 16:32.26 | Fisker- | tomorrow mr. Kaydeethree |
| 16:32.35 | Fisker- | i recieved word from the server slaves |
| 16:32.38 | Ellipsis | want |
| 16:32.39 | kenlyric | my CC macro is a little more complicated and lets me mouseover shackle. |
| 16:32.40 | Kaydeethree | nice |
| 16:32.50 | Crysli | btw the-golem: I just changed my UFs, so don't ask me for any settings :p |
| 16:32.50 | kenlyric | usefull in those cases when my target is very much alive but i need to get something else. |
| 16:33.08 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50663 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 16:33.08 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:33.08 | CIA-12 | - now removes redundant spells (eg. spells which were unlearned) |
| 16:33.10 | Fisker- | 2.2.2 live on us yet btw? |
| 16:33.18 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 16:33.20 | the-golem | Crysli: as in, not pitbull anymore? |
| 16:33.24 | Ellipsis | as of server uptime in ~1.5h |
| 16:33.30 | Fisker- | :O |
| 16:33.38 | Crysli | the-golem: as in I changed the look of em |
| 16:33.53 | the-golem | wtb new screenie ^^ |
| 16:34.07 | Crysli | Heh. Will do after dinner. |
| 16:36.42 | Ellipsis | ~seen Mecdemort |
| 16:37.07 | purl | mecdemort is currently on #wowace (17h 34m 37s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 6h 28m 57s, last said: 'theres no event for targettarget'. |
| 16:37.08 | rubik | so they fixed the Blizzard_RaidUI crap in 2.2.2 also eh |
| 16:38.01 | LetheKai | I think macros are amazing and I would love to use them, but a lot of them are very situational... so you'd need more than one macro for a particular ability, and I don't have the fingers or mice for that, hehe. |
| 16:38.14 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: it depends |
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| 16:38.28 | Ellipsis | for example, as a warlock I can't live without a HS/SS macro |
| 16:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 16:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | so you play a lock |
| 16:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | huh |
| 16:38.44 | LetheKai | Yes, that does sound good and non-situational. |
| 16:38.58 | Ellipsis | a basic one for HS might be: left click eat, right click create, middle click (or shift click, or what have you) for ritual of souls |
| 16:38.59 | sag_ich_nicht | DIE, DESPISABLE BRINGER OF EVIL! |
| 16:39.04 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: ilu2 |
| 16:39.17 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, u realise u can do that without macro's in fb right ? |
| 16:39.24 | cncfanatics | wasting macro slots for such stuff is silly |
| 16:39.24 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: yeah, you can in certain addons |
| 16:39.36 | LetheKai | But I found a couple yesterday that I want to try for Pally-tanking - help target's target w/ BoP and the Pally taunt (I forget the name), but I'll also have to bind those to other keys as well for use on something other than target's target. |
| 16:39.45 | Ellipsis | personally I have been using BT3 up until now (waiting on the edge of my seat for FB2) |
| 16:39.50 | Ellipsis | so I created macros for that stuff |
| 16:39.53 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 16:39.56 | cncfanatics | go try FB2 ^^ |
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| 16:39.59 | Ellipsis | and yes, I am very nearly out of macro slots |
| 16:40.09 | Ellipsis | I intend to set up FB2 as soon as servers are back up |
| 16:40.16 | cncfanatics | ah oh yea they're down |
| 16:40.20 | LetheKai | Is that FuBar or something else? |
| 16:40.21 | cncfanatics | thats why nobody reported that mixin bug earlyer |
| 16:40.24 | Ellipsis | yup, tuesday maintenance |
| 16:40.27 | cncfanatics | LetheKay, FlexBar2 |
| 16:40.29 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: FlexBar2, action bar addon :) |
| 16:40.30 | LetheKai | Ooh. |
| 16:40.34 | cncfanatics | its finaly ready |
| 16:40.41 | LetheKai | Is that the one that disappears when you don't need it? |
| 16:40.48 | Crysli | Does FB2 have the option to have DreamLayout? |
| 16:40.55 | cncfanatics | what is dreamlayout ? :o |
| 16:41.01 | LetheKai | Nooo, I'm thinking of something else... I think. |
| 16:41.09 | cncfanatics | Crysli, can probably add it if I actualy knew what it was |
| 16:41.11 | Fisker- | cncfanatics a cycircled skin |
| 16:41.18 | cncfanatics | it supports cyCircled |
| 16:41.20 | cncfanatics | so that'd be yes |
| 16:41.20 | Fisker- | as far as i remember |
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| 16:41.35 | cncfanatics | and cyCircled should really be renamed to actionskinner or similiar |
| 16:41.41 | cncfanatics | cuz its really not only circles :p |
| 16:41.42 | LetheKai | I don't know what it is, but I use cyCircled and BT3 and dreamlayout is always selected for BT3. |
| 16:41.44 | Crysli | Fisker-: Not sure it's a CyCircled skin. I think it's Bartender3 standard |
| 16:41.54 | cncfanatics | what does it consist of ? |
| 16:42.04 | Fisker- | a square border around buttons |
| 16:42.04 | Fisker- | >P |
| 16:42.06 | Fisker- | basically |
| 16:42.10 | LetheKai | Changing it doesn't change anything that I can see. (Dreamlayout) |
| 16:42.11 | sedai| | what does bartender do that bongos doesnt? |
| 16:42.14 | Fisker- | i'll show you! |
| 16:42.15 | Mecdemort | Ellipsis: you rang? |
| 16:42.15 | [dRaCo] | yeah... black, opaque |
| 16:42.39 | Undine | what does fb2 do that other bar mods don't? |
| 16:42.48 | cncfanatics | Undine, every button can be controlled on its own |
| 16:42.54 | sedai| | anyone know how i can change my bg minimap back to transparent? |
| 16:42.56 | LetheKai | Isn't FB2 more customizable than any of the other bar mods? |
| 16:43.03 | cncfanatics | LetheKai, basicly |
| 16:43.04 | sedai| | skinner has done a number on it apparently |
| 16:43.19 | LetheKai | It's just hellacious to set up, Undine. |
| 16:43.24 | cncfanatics | LetheKai, at least I don't know any AB addon thats more customizable then it |
| 16:43.24 | LetheKai | That's why I use BT3. Hehe. |
| 16:43.32 | cncfanatics | its not anymore really |
| 16:43.38 | LetheKai | Really? Great! |
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| 16:43.44 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.46 | Fisker- | http://i21.tinypic.com/24q2xzk.jpg |
| 16:43.46 | cncfanatics | then create some groups |
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| 16:43.56 | cncfanatics | and then drag everything where u need it, poof ur done |
| 16:43.59 | LetheKai | I should look before I talk I guess. I tried it over a year ago and it was a nightmare, you had to input things manually to do everything. |
| 16:44.05 | cncfanatics | u still do :p |
| 16:44.10 | cncfanatics | but i'm a fast typer so :) |
| 16:44.25 | cncfanatics | and I'm seeking people to make a GUI, hoping to get a volunteer from, somewhere |
| 16:44.29 | LetheKai | I don't know the right things to type. =\ BT3 = drag and waterfall menu. |
| 16:44.29 | Nandini | yay a blue finally replied to my tech support question about the processAffinityMask CVAR |
| 16:44.48 | Fisker- | "Shut up and get out"? |
| 16:44.54 | LetheKai | Heh. |
| 16:45.00 | cncfanatics | LetheKai, there's a slashcommand reference for that |
| 16:45.12 | [dRaCo] | "We are not able to answer that question at the moment. Please come back in 2 years." |
| 16:45.17 | cncfanatics | its in the zip or u can check it here (its a txt file) http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/Slashcommands.txt |
| 16:45.28 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 16:45.30 | Crysli | WB Punkie |
| 16:45.31 | Fisker- | i found a bug |
| 16:45.39 | Punkie` | sup |
| 16:45.40 | Nandini | no, he actually answered exactly the questions i asked and explained how they work |
| 16:45.51 | Fisker- | cool |
| 16:45.55 | Punkie` | what's the bug? |
| 16:46.00 | LetheKai | That's probably better than it used to be, but still a much bigger pain than BT3. =( And I understand it's too big a hassle to make a really complex, convoluted GUI for FB2 so it's prolly just not for me. =) |
| 16:46.01 | Fisker- | i got ADD |
| 16:46.03 | Fisker- | can you fix it? |
| 16:46.06 | Punkie` | shit |
| 16:46.06 | Punkie` | no |
| 16:46.07 | Punkie` | sorry |
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| 16:46.08 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 16:46.10 | Fisker- | oh |
| 16:46.14 | Fisker- | but Demon doesn't work |
| 16:46.28 | Punkie` | is that because you haven't installed it? |
| 16:46.29 | cncfanatics | LetheKai, one day, it'll have a GUI |
| 16:46.31 | cncfanatics | but it won't be mine |
| 16:46.38 | Nandini | /dcc send Fisker- Ritalin.txt |
| 16:46.39 | Undine | how's paging work in fb2? per button? |
| 16:46.45 | Fisker- | ah Punkie` knew i had forgotten something! |
| 16:46.46 | Fisker- | but no |
| 16:46.55 | cncfanatics | Undine, few things, it doesn't use actionbuttons, so there's no "paging", its remaps |
| 16:46.59 | cncfanatics | each button can be set up to be remapped |
| 16:47.03 | Punkie` | so why doesn't it work? |
| 16:47.05 | Fisker- | just gonna get the error |
| 16:47.12 | Fisker- | something about your mother |
| 16:47.18 | cncfanatics | currently shapeshift remaps and target based remaps are supported (target based = friendly target, no target, hostile target) |
| 16:47.18 | Crysli | I get that too |
| 16:47.53 | cncfanatics | u can activate both on a button, or only one of them |
| 16:47.54 | Fisker- | ok fuck you |
| 16:47.54 | cncfanatics | I'm planning to support more, and to add support for letting buttons be hidden / shown on certain states |
| 16:47.54 | Fisker- | when i logged on the first time i got something about string remove "usage" |
| 16:47.54 | Fisker- | but now it works |
| 16:47.55 | rubik | headless horseman dude sure drops some crappy loot: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34075 |
| 16:48.03 | Ellipsis | [9:41:31 am] <Mecdemort> Ellipsis: you rang? << you were thinking about doing a HUD, right? |
| 16:48.12 | Mecdemort | yar |
| 16:48.17 | LetheKai | Sorry CNC, I didn't realize you were talking about FB2 when you said you were looking for someone to make a GUI. |
| 16:48.18 | Ellipsis | any updates on that? |
| 16:48.18 | Fisker- | you fixed it by using telekinesis |
| 16:48.19 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: aliasses is spelt aliases ;p |
| 16:48.23 | Punkie` | woo |
| 16:48.25 | Mecdemort | its coming |
| 16:48.29 | cncfanatics | Xinhuah, lemme fix that :p |
| 16:48.35 | Mecdemort | to do what i want i have to make my own StatusBar template |
| 16:48.55 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50664 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.txt: FlexBar2: Xinhuan made me |
| 16:49.00 | Mecdemort | but when it's all said and done there will be verticle textures from sharedmedia |
| 16:49.00 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 16:49.01 | cncfanatics | there u go Xinhuan |
| 16:49.01 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 16:49.11 | Ellipsis | Mecdemort: that is sexy beyond belief, and I can't wait <3 |
| 16:49.39 | Mecdemort | ya it'd be a lot easier if blizz would just rotate texture when you set the orientation :x |
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| 16:50.05 | Xinhuan | wtb server up already |
| 16:50.07 | Ellipsis | a lot of things would be easier if Blizz didn't make them so difficult |
| 16:50.13 | Ellipsis | QFT @ Xinhuan |
| 16:50.15 | the-golem | Xinhuan: i second that |
| 16:50.23 | vhaarr | ~seen tuller |
| 16:50.26 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 40m 19s ago, saying: 'lama'. |
| 16:50.26 | Xinhuan | NEED MY GNOME GOGGLES |
| 16:50.31 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 16:50.35 | Mecdemort | i've been looking through the blizz UI code, and it makes we want to cry it's so bad. I hope the code they give us is just sample and not what they actually use |
| 16:50.42 | Ellipsis | LOL |
| 16:50.48 | Ellipsis | sample, haha |
| 16:50.50 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, it is unfortunatly :/ |
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| 16:51.00 | LetheKai|Phone | Wait, my BF is saying they're adding some character customization thing to Lich King that lets you change your hair/look whenever you want? -_- |
| 16:51.03 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, I think my code is better personaly, and I never followed programming lmessons |
| 16:51.03 | Grum | Mecdemort: its written like it should be running an old mainframe orso ... |
| 16:51.06 | Mecdemort | its like, the world will end if the *don't* call a function or set a global |
| 16:51.11 | Fisker- | also Punkie` |
| 16:51.11 | Ellipsis | if it's on wdn, it's in ur UIz maekin ur criez |
| 16:51.16 | the-golem | cncfanatics: yeah, they are letting you change hair and get new dances an shit |
| 16:51.17 | Fisker- | you might not survive another day |
| 16:51.20 | Grum | *COMPLETELY* backwards polluting global namespace like *maD* |
| 16:51.25 | the-golem | but not body type/size |
| 16:51.28 | cncfanatics | Grum, yea |
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| 16:51.42 | Grum | there is no 'modern' concept |
| 16:51.43 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, compare my code with theirs, i'm an 18yo idiot that likes coding :p |
| 16:51.43 | Mecdemort | and they do the same thing a million times instead of making a local |
| 16:51.48 | Ellipsis | I think we can all agree here that Blizz coders should be shot for their UI code |
| 16:51.52 | Grum | if you want a laugh - check the StaticPopup code :) |
| 16:51.57 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I could do better then them :/ |
| 16:51.59 | Grum | seriously worth a cry |
| 16:52.04 | Xinhuan | i have about 500 constants polluting the global namespace in my addon -- only because i'm too lazy to convert it into a table of 500 items |
| 16:52.05 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: a 6 year old could :P |
| 16:52.08 | Funkeh` | hello |
| 16:52.13 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, yea unfortunatly |
| 16:52.13 | LetheKai|Phone | Hello. |
| 16:52.15 | Ellipsis | Grum: try FCF (FloatingChatFrame) |
| 16:52.22 | cncfanatics | btw Ellipsis, the servers are down right ? |
| 16:52.23 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r50665 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Register the defaults first so people don't get a "Remove: "usage" must be a string" error on a fresh install. Drycode, but I guess it would work. |
| 16:52.25 | Ellipsis | yeah cncfanatics |
| 16:52.26 | Ellipsis | still down |
| 16:52.28 | Xinhuan | at the end of the day, you still access a table to get the result ~_~ |
| 16:52.37 | Grum | Xinhuan: grin |
| 16:52.41 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, if u feel bored read some FB code, its infinite times better then the blizz one imo :p |
| 16:52.43 | Mecdemort | my UI had something like 36k global vars |
| 16:52.43 | the-golem | Who does bongos? Tuller? |
| 16:52.46 | Ellipsis | yeah Xinhuan but wait til some other addon very subtly uses the same global you do... |
| 16:52.48 | Mecdemort | and almost 10k frames |
| 16:53.01 | Xinhuan | except that all my globals has a prefix of WOW_EQUIP_ |
| 16:53.03 | cncfanatics | addons should only ever have 2 globals |
| 16:53.10 | Xinhuan | so i'm pretty sure nobody is going to clash with me ;p |
| 16:53.11 | Mecdemort | 2? |
| 16:53.13 | Fisker- | fucking owned Punkie` |
| 16:53.14 | Ellipsis | teh main addon and the SVs |
| 16:53.17 | cncfanatics | Their addon object and the SVs |
| 16:53.18 | Mecdemort | ah |
| 16:53.20 | cncfanatics | and eventualy frames they create |
| 16:53.24 | cncfanatics | but thats apart |
| 16:53.35 | Mecdemort | barely any frames need to be global |
| 16:53.38 | Punkie` | ^_^ |
| 16:53.41 | cncfanatics | wish I could remove my frames from global namespace, but blizz requires a frame NAME before wanting to keybind it |
| 16:53.47 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, anything with ak eybinding does |
| 16:53.48 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: yeah, we all know what a unique name WoWEquip is! (don't hurt me!) |
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| 16:53.55 | cncfanatics | that means I need at least one frame named per actionbutton in flexbar |
| 16:54.03 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: i tried that, but at the end of it all, i simply got a "error: more than 200 locals defined" |
| 16:54.16 | Xinhuan | and gave up |
| 16:54.16 | Amadeo | New Omega Radeon drivers, that's pretty wild, I thought he stopped doing that |
| 16:54.16 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, eh ? |
| 16:54.28 | Xinhuan | you cannot define more than 200 locals in a single block of code |
| 16:54.28 | cncfanatics | there's a limit of 200 globals in lua lol ? |
| 16:54.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 16:54.33 | Ellipsis | WTB omega drivers for my system =[ |
| 16:54.40 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan |
| 16:54.44 | Mecdemort | i dunno, if you have 200 globals you've gotta be doing something wrong |
| 16:54.46 | Xinhuan | locals in a do-end block still counts |
| 16:54.47 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Eh? |
| 16:54.51 | Mecdemort | locals* |
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| 16:55.00 | cncfanatics | thats silly |
| 16:55.00 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort, i have that many buttons in my addon |
| 16:55.12 | cncfanatics | put them in a table ? |
| 16:55.15 | Xinhuan | although technically, i should put them all in a table to avoid the problem |
| 16:55.19 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 16:55.23 | Xinhuan | but the buttons aren't related in any way |
| 16:55.27 | cncfanatics | so ? |
| 16:55.33 | Xinhuan | and putting it in a table slows down access |
| 16:55.34 | cncfanatics | just put them in an array |
| 16:55.45 | Xinhuan | then just using a direct local |
| 16:55.49 | Mecdemort | putting 200 buttons in their own local variables means you have to handle each one individually |
| 16:55.52 | cncfanatics | how can u have 200 buttons that do totaly diff things ? |
| 16:56.02 | the-golem | array / table |
| 16:56.05 | cncfanatics | because if they don't do totaly diff things then its bad practice to have em localized each |
| 16:56.10 | Xinhuan | 200 is a bit of an exageration |
| 16:56.21 | the-golem | its all the same *lol* |
| 16:56.33 | cncfanatics | 200, 100, 50, still shld be in a table :p |
| 16:56.35 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: my drivers are horribly out of date and I can't update/replace them with anything =[ |
| 16:56.43 | Ellipsis | so I am stuck with glitches out the...yeah |
| 16:56.45 | Mecdemort | SoB 1 more hour till the server comes up, i want my netherdrake damnit |
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| 16:56.50 | Xinhuan | meh, its not a big deal |
| 16:56.50 | cncfanatics | cryogen, tell me when ur home :p |
| 16:57.15 | cncfanatics | well, I consider addons with more globals then 2 + NumberOfFramesWithKeybindings bad |
| 16:57.22 | Xinhuan | there isn't really THAT much difference between a button named WoWEquip_TalentButton and WoWEquip.TalentButton |
| 16:57.25 | cncfanatics | that might be just me though |
| 16:57.46 | Crysli | Q: I was thinking of learning Lua. Would it be a good idea to learn some object oriented programming first? |
| 16:57.47 | Xinhuan | but i suppose a simple search and replace can *easily* do the change |
| 16:57.48 | LetheKai|Photosh | =( |
| 16:57.53 | Xinhuan | for all my frames |
| 16:57.54 | cncfanatics | Crystli, lua can be OO |
| 16:57.57 | Mecdemort | it just really pisses me off every time i see frame:GetName()..SubFrame in blizz's code |
| 16:58.05 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, me too |
| 16:58.10 | cncfanatics | MORE GLOBALS PLEASE |
| 16:58.27 | Mecdemort | frame.SubFrame = 1 table call instead of a function, a concatentation, then a global lookup |
| 16:58.28 | Crysli | cncfanatics: Sorry, that should've been 'some other OO programming' |
| 16:58.39 | the-golem | Crysli: no, it dont htink so |
| 16:58.43 | cncfanatics | Crysli, I'd say u should learn what you have the most use for |
| 16:58.48 | cncfanatics | if t hat happens to be lua, so be it |
| 16:58.51 | cncfanatics | I actualy like lua a lot |
| 16:58.52 | cryogen | cncfanatics: im home, but cant play atm :) |
| 16:58.53 | cncfanatics | its nice |
| 16:58.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen why not ? :o |
| 16:59.09 | the-golem | i <3 lua |
| 16:59.23 | cncfanatics | not that I can play either atm but, still :p |
| 16:59.24 | Mecdemort | the only thing lua lacks is macros, at least i cant find out how to do them |
| 16:59.31 | cncfanatics | macro's ? |
| 16:59.33 | Punkie` | to be fair, lua can look like quite a clean language |
| 16:59.34 | cncfanatics | what u mean? |
| 16:59.35 | the-golem | wtf? |
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| 16:59.37 | Nandini | yuck, an extra 2 hours of maintenance on all US realms :( |
| 16:59.39 | Punkie` | compared to PHP or something |
| 16:59.46 | cncfanatics | PHP is full of suck |
| 16:59.49 | cncfanatics | don't like it |
| 16:59.54 | Punkie` | I hate opening up a .php |
| 16:59.54 | cncfanatics | lua vs php = lua wins |
| 16:59.58 | Punkie` | they look ugly as sin |
| 17:00.04 | cncfanatics | thats also partly because most coders can't code for em |
| 17:00.11 | cncfanatics | my code in php is just as clean as in lua |
| 17:00.14 | cryogen | cncfanatics: got some guy coming round to the house |
| 17:00.16 | cncfanatics | there's actualy nearly no differences between both |
| 17:00.16 | cryogen | had forgot :o |
| 17:00.22 | sedai| | -O-N-E--H-O-U-R- |
| 17:00.22 | Nandini | i'd agree Lua is much more "readable" in general than PHP |
| 17:00.23 | Crysli | Orly? |
| 17:00.26 | Mecdemort | like lisp macros, defining your own 'syntactic sugar' |
| 17:00.30 | cncfanatics | Nandini, depends on the authoir |
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| 17:00.41 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, I see, like C and its own operators also |
| 17:00.47 | Mecdemort | something like that |
| 17:00.50 | Xinhuan | it becomes hella difficult to read when you start embedding html and php in each other |
| 17:00.59 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, thats bad practice really |
| 17:01.03 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: ping |
| 17:01.03 | Mecdemort | and you can do it in a way with meta tables and __ props |
| 17:01.06 | Nandini | sedai| : 3 more hours, they extended maintenance until 1PM pacific time for US realms |
| 17:01.06 | the-golem | Xinhuan: why would you do that ^^ |
| 17:01.14 | Xinhuan | you probably wouldn't |
| 17:01.15 | the-golem | THE FUCK |
| 17:01.15 | cncfanatics | should have a template that uses ur vars |
| 17:01.18 | sedai| | -_- |
| 17:01.19 | Xinhuan | but i'm saying it is difficult to read ;p |
| 17:01.22 | the-golem | thats half the goddamn day |
| 17:01.30 | cncfanatics | aaah so lovely |
| 17:01.31 | LetheKai|PS | Ellipsis, I'm a macro idiot - what sort of macro would you need to tell your succubus to seduce someone? It can't just be /cast...etc. can it? |
| 17:01.32 | cncfanatics | US gets the fuck |
| 17:01.33 | sedai| | I CRAVE .. |
| 17:01.35 | cncfanatics | and EU gets it flowless |
| 17:01.38 | sedai| | ADDICTION TAKING OVER |
| 17:01.50 | sedai| | must.. test mods more... |
| 17:01.51 | cncfanatics | s/flowless/flawless/ |
| 17:01.55 | Nandini | maybe you should take up smoking, sedai |
| 17:01.58 | cncfanatics | ok, now I'm going to start my dutch homework already |
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| 17:02.01 | sedai| | 'i quit. |
| 17:02.04 | LetheKai|PS | US < EU all the time lol. I was pretty grumpy at the servers EU got as opposed to US when TBC was released. |
| 17:02.04 | cncfanatics | sedai| code a gui for something ? (a) |
| 17:02.07 | Nandini | or perhaps heroin or cocaine, they're healthier than WoW |
| 17:02.16 | Mecdemort | lol too true |
| 17:02.26 | Marli | EU ptr sucks |
| 17:02.27 | Marli | gg? |
| 17:02.33 | cncfanatics | I don't PTR except to test addons |
| 17:02.36 | cncfanatics | so I really don't care |
| 17:02.39 | Mecdemort | i ditched crack and moved onto the harder stuff, WoW |
| 17:02.42 | LetheKai|PS | I don't PTR at all hehe. |
| 17:02.44 | sedai| | coding isn't my strength |
| 17:03.04 | Mecdemort | well it's not blizzard's either but look where they're at |
| 17:03.10 | Industrial | lol. |
| 17:03.12 | sedai| | more of a visual designer |
| 17:03.16 | Nandini | vanguard was gonna be my methadone to WoW until i realized it's run by Sony |
| 17:03.25 | LetheKai|PS | Can anyone give me some tips on how to macro succubus seduce? Sorry for the ignorance. >.< |
| 17:03.27 | Goodfella | Does anyone ele get an error with WowAceUpdater where it'll stop responding and shut down after ~30 seconds of running? |
| 17:03.30 | Mecdemort | vanguard sucks hard |
| 17:03.35 | the-golem | vanguard is shit |
| 17:03.37 | Industrial | Nandini: warhammer? looks pretty cool |
| 17:03.41 | sedai| | blizzard > sony |
| 17:03.46 | the-golem | fancy ass graphics and no FSAA |
| 17:03.47 | Mecdemort | i do like some of their classes tho |
| 17:03.47 | Nandini | yes Warhammer will do the trick nicely :) |
| 17:04.04 | LetheKai|PS | Mmm, I want to try that Chaos rune class pretty badly. |
| 17:04.05 | Nandini | many of the ideas behind Vanguard were cool tho |
| 17:04.06 | Vires | LetheKai|PS: Target your seduce target, /focus it. Then macro: /petcast [target=focus] Seduce |
| 17:04.07 | Mecdemort | im not holding my breath on warhammer, it'll probably be vaporware like all the rest |
| 17:04.16 | Industrial | Nandini: hope the interface will be like wow's, but then with python or ruby :P |
| 17:04.18 | LetheKai|PS | Vires: /petcast huh? Thanks so much! |
| 17:04.34 | the-golem | ewww |
| 17:04.36 | cncfanatics | sedai|, I'd love drafts of how you would design a gui for something like flexbar |
| 17:04.40 | the-golem | ruby .. ugh |
| 17:04.42 | the-golem | i hate ruby |
| 17:04.44 | cncfanatics | Industrial, its lua |
| 17:04.46 | cncfanatics | quite confirmed it is |
| 17:04.54 | Industrial | fine w me :P |
| 17:04.58 | cncfanatics | lua is made to be embed in third party code |
| 17:05.02 | sylvanaar | Punkie` pong |
| 17:05.03 | cncfanatics | so its really perfect for that stuff |
| 17:05.07 | Industrial | python can be embedded too? |
| 17:05.08 | cncfanatics | I wonder how easy FB would be to port to it :p |
| 17:05.15 | Mecdemort | any language can be embedded |
| 17:05.21 | cncfanatics | try to emb php into wow :p |
| 17:05.24 | cncfanatics | have fun xD |
| 17:05.28 | Mecdemort | lua is just nice cuz you can separate the environments |
| 17:05.28 | the-golem | LOL! |
| 17:05.31 | Industrial | thats not a language |
| 17:05.32 | Vires | I think I tried Python once... maybe... heh |
| 17:05.35 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 17:05.41 | Mecdemort | python is good times |
| 17:05.42 | cncfanatics | EMBED PHP FTW |
| 17:05.43 | cncfanatics | GIEV |
| 17:05.58 | cncfanatics | I think we should petition wow to emb php into wow cuz its just so great |
| 17:06.06 | cncfanatics | s/wow/blizzard/ |
| 17:06.07 | Marli | lol.. |
| 17:06.12 | nevcairiel | lua > php |
| 17:06.14 | LetheKai|PS | I hope they make it at least as customizable as WoW. The more customizable (UI, character graphics, character spec), the more I tend to enjoy a game. |
| 17:06.18 | Mecdemort | i want paul graham to release arc already |
| 17:06.19 | cncfanatics | lua >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> php |
| 17:06.23 | the-golem | i've seen some wicked line parsing in python take one line |
| 17:06.24 | Vires | classes > table/arrays like Lua uses 0.o |
| 17:06.31 | the-golem | impossible to read though |
| 17:06.33 | Mecdemort | hell no |
| 17:06.37 | cncfanatics | Vires, ehm, u realise u can write classes into lua right ? |
| 17:06.41 | Vires | lol |
| 17:06.42 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: one of my friends ingame has a problem with WAU not saving it's settings properly after a reboot, is this known? |
| 17:06.43 | Mecdemort | tables as classes is the coolest thing i've ever seen |
| 17:06.43 | nevcairiel | learn to write your own simple OO handler |
| 17:06.50 | nevcairiel | and everything is fine |
| 17:06.56 | cncfanatics | my actualy oo code is 20 lines |
| 17:06.58 | cncfanatics | come on, thats nothing |
| 17:07.01 | dylanm | Mecdemort: Yeah seriously when is that guy going to step it up and release the thing. |
| 17:07.04 | cncfanatics | and actualy does exactly what I want how I want |
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| 17:07.22 | the-golem | Hi Tuller |
| 17:07.29 | the-golem | someone was looking for you ^^ |
| 17:07.29 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: basically, the skip svn working copies seems to not want to stay checked |
| 17:07.35 | Tuller | hello |
| 17:07.42 | sylvanaar | Punkie` um |
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| 17:07.56 | sylvanaar | Punkie` version? |
| 17:08.07 | Mecdemort | dylanm: has there even been any recent updates? |
| 17:08.14 | sylvanaar | Punkie` enable logging and pastey a log |
| 17:08.14 | cncfanatics | hmmm, someone suggest me some nice punk/rock music ? I ran out of music :p (only 1k songs |
| 17:08.21 | LetheKai|PS | How is it all these Ace2 mods are constantly updated many times a day? The makers aren't working on all of them all day, every day, are they? =x |
| 17:08.35 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|PS: some are |
| 17:08.36 | cncfanatics | like me |
| 17:08.39 | Ellipsis | LetheKai|PS: lib updates, if you're embedded |
| 17:08.44 | LetheKai|PS | That and your Dutch homework, cnc? |
| 17:08.44 | Crysli | LetheKai: Addon developer != life |
| 17:08.44 | dylanm | LetheKai|PS: Mostly lib updates |
| 17:09.00 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|PS: fuck dutch homework |
| 17:09.05 | cncfanatics | gonna play some tonight |
| 17:09.08 | LetheKai|PS | That's what I was hoping Ellipsis/dylanm. I would feel bad if they worked THAT HARD every day hehe. |
| 17:09.10 | cncfanatics | and probably play & code tomorrow |
| 17:09.23 | cryogen | cncfanatics: char created, name reserved, play later :D |
| 17:09.35 | cncfanatics | cryogen, name ? |
| 17:09.36 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: btw, I keep randomly getting 'WAU has encountered an error, click to close' |
| 17:09.37 | cncfanatics | class ? |
| 17:09.38 | cryogen | Galencia |
| 17:09.43 | cryogen | boobelf mage |
| 17:09.46 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 17:09.48 | cncfanatics | oki mage it is |
| 17:09.51 | cncfanatics | mage + rogue hehe |
| 17:09.52 | LetheKai|PS | ....lol |
| 17:09.52 | cncfanatics | DPS |
| 17:09.52 | Nandini | the more i look at the /cancelform change for druids in 2.3, the more i suspect i will not be able to shift out of a form and back into it again with one click |
| 17:09.57 | sylvanaar | Punkie` did you read the forum sticky |
| 17:09.58 | Trell_ | gah |
| 17:09.59 | cryogen | "meh?" :) |
| 17:10.00 | cncfanatics | Nandini, probably |
| 17:10.01 | LetheKai|PS | I've never heard boobelf before. |
| 17:10.06 | Trell_ | whats the name of the recipe finder, new one, ace based |
| 17:10.08 | cryogen | want me to reroll? :p |
| 17:10.11 | cryogen | LetheKai|PS: you hadnt? :) |
| 17:10.12 | Nandini | although i could switch AMONG different forms |
| 17:10.14 | Punkie` | nope, i've only really got this installed to test it out, i mostly svn :) |
| 17:10.16 | Trell_ | shows what you have and don't have |
| 17:10.25 | LetheKai|PS | No. Surprising, they're pretty small-busted. |
| 17:10.43 | cryogen | hehe |
| 17:10.47 | baer_ | any idea when 2.3 will be on the PTRs? |
| 17:10.53 | Ellipsis | sometime soon |
| 17:10.54 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 17:10.56 | Tuller | friday? :) |
| 17:10.57 | baer_ | :-pp |
| 17:10.58 | Crysli | WTB bigger screen. 'tis hard to make a UI for 1024*768 |
| 17:11.00 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i might change my mind before i actually play, but that willbe my name :) |
| 17:11.07 | LetheKai|PS | Ouch Crysli. |
| 17:11.11 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the longer between now and when i play the more chance i will change my mind! |
| 17:11.14 | Marli | I once had that problem Crysli |
| 17:11.17 | Marli | So I bought a bigger screen |
| 17:11.17 | Marli | :D |
| 17:11.19 | LetheKai|PS | lol |
| 17:11.20 | cryogen | (druid is lookg real tempting) |
| 17:11.26 | LetheKai|PS | Druids are sooo fun. |
| 17:11.31 | steev64 | anyone have a link to the patch notes? |
| 17:11.33 | Goodfella | WoW talk?!?!?!?! |
| 17:11.37 | LetheKai|PS | No! |
| 17:11.45 | Mecdemort | steev64: the patch notes are like 10 lines |
| 17:11.54 | Marli | LEENK |
| 17:11.57 | NivFreak | more GYs everywhere |
| 17:12.00 | Goodfella | Patch notes: mages win |
| 17:12.01 | steev64 | Mecdemort: they don't show up in my cedega for some reason |
| 17:12.02 | Goodfella | end notes |
| 17:12.04 | LetheKai|PS | lol |
| 17:12.11 | Mecdemort | added 8 graveyards, theres a new festival, and the october fest is starting |
| 17:12.13 | LetheKai|PS | Do you guys consider mages underpowered atm? |
| 17:12.16 | Goodfella | no |
| 17:12.18 | Mecdemort | yes |
| 17:12.22 | LetheKai|PS | Hmm. |
| 17:12.22 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 17:12.24 | steev64 | lol firespec |
| 17:12.26 | LetheKai|PS | Haha. |
| 17:12.30 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'll stick to my rogue I think |
| 17:12.30 | NivFreak | no |
| 17:12.32 | NivFreak | mages are fine |
| 17:12.37 | LetheKai|PS | Most classes have a semi-lol spec. |
| 17:12.39 | Nandini | if you mean the 2.3 patch notes, i don't think there are any offical ones yet, there are some notes in each of the class forums and notes in the UI/Macros forum |
| 17:12.40 | Mecdemort | an arcane mage spamming arcane blast should never be out dps'd, but rogues can |
| 17:12.42 | steev64 | you know who are underpowered? gnomes |
| 17:12.52 | LetheKai|PS | ... |
| 17:13.06 | cryogen | cncfanatics: thats why im tempted to go druid |
| 17:13.09 | phyber | [Ammo]: was there a reason for removing the string.format() in the :SetText of MiniClockFu? |
| 17:13.10 | steev64 | they need to rework those mechanics |
| 17:13.10 | cryogen | rogue + druid is a fun stealthy combo :) |
| 17:13.17 | steev64 | when i kick to disrupt a gnome mage |
| 17:13.21 | phyber | (removing the colouring of the text) |
| 17:13.22 | steev64 | i expect him to fly across the arena |
| 17:13.24 | NivFreak | Am I the only one who stops to kill any pink haired warlock gnome he sees? |
| 17:13.26 | LetheKai|PS | Why are there so few Draenei btw? They're so awesome. =( |
| 17:13.26 | [Ammo] | phyber: memory :) |
| 17:13.36 | steev64 | <-- draenei |
| 17:13.38 | steev64 | sometimes |
| 17:13.39 | LetheKai|PS | =D |
| 17:13.46 | phyber | [Ammo]: but now my clock is the wrong colour, and it makes the "coloured text" option pointless :p |
| 17:13.47 | cryogen | dreani start area is annoying |
| 17:13.48 | steev64 | resto shaman ftw |
| 17:13.49 | cryogen | and they are ugly |
| 17:13.53 | cryogen | anyway gotta run |
| 17:13.54 | cryogen | bbl |
| 17:13.59 | LetheKai|PS | My 70 Priest is a Draenei, but I had to go back to Horde. And they are not ugly. =( |
| 17:14.03 | LetheKai|PS | Bye Cryo. |
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| 17:14.12 | durcyn | you know, i play a gnome warlock. you can all just die. |
| 17:14.14 | [Ammo] | phyber: maybe the color should be added to the time format in general then |
| 17:14.19 | [Ammo] | phyber: it costs mem per call |
| 17:14.21 | LetheKai|PS | durcyn: What colour hair? |
| 17:14.25 | kaiden^ | wow, i didn't know CallToArms would still be in development :) that's wicked |
| 17:14.25 | durcyn | LetheKai|PS: oh. black. |
| 17:14.26 | Marli | my BE is hottest char in world |
| 17:14.29 | [Ammo] | and clock updates quite a bit |
| 17:14.30 | LetheKai|PS | Bah. |
| 17:14.33 | baer_ | durcyn: gnomes ftw :-} |
| 17:14.34 | LetheKai|PS | Should be neon green. |
| 17:14.54 | Marli | my gnome has white pigtails |
| 17:14.56 | Marli | Id fuck it |
| 17:14.57 | Marli | :] |
| 17:15.00 | LetheKai|PS | lol |
| 17:15.05 | baer_ | mine pink. :-p |
| 17:15.08 | CIA-12 | 03prudence * r50666 10Assessment/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:15.08 | CIA-12 | Assessment: |
| 17:15.08 | CIA-12 | - Update french translation |
| 17:15.16 | LetheKai|PS | My UD girl has purple hair. =D |
| 17:15.32 | sylvanaar | did you profile it [Ammo]? |
| 17:15.46 | LetheKai|PS | I usually hate purple, but since she's a 'lock I'm redoing my whole UI in various shades of purple. Purpletastic. |
| 17:15.53 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: ofcourse |
| 17:15.53 | Marli | lul |
| 17:17.45 | [Ammo] | phyber: I'll check out addin the color again |
| 17:17.53 | [Ammo] | make it white once more |
| 17:17.53 | dylanm | Maintenance extended by two hours sweeet |
| 17:18.09 | Lukian | lol fail |
| 17:18.17 | *** join/#wowace mykx (n=Shelton@host-84-9-73-104.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 17:18.42 | sylvanaar | kaiden^ its not - just maintained |
| 17:18.44 | Mecdemort | omfg |
| 17:18.46 | phyber | [Ammo]: cool :) |
| 17:19.17 | Mecdemort | fuck me sideways i stayed awake for the servers to come up so i could finish getting my mount, and now i think my body is shutting down |
| 17:19.29 | *** join/#wowace Plagous (n=wesyrine@12-214-1-149.client.mchsi.com) |
| 17:19.32 | sedai| | hello flinlandish dnb |
| 17:19.54 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@125.164.1.11) |
| 17:20.02 | Nandini | take a nap for 2 hours |
| 17:20.15 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 17:20.17 | dylanm | Heh if you've been staying up that late it's hard to sleep for just two hours. |
| 17:20.23 | Mecdemort | exactly |
| 17:20.35 | Mecdemort | hell if i got to sleep now i'll be lucky to be up by raid |
| 17:20.49 | [Ammo] | added it phyber, testing |
| 17:21.04 | Pkekyo | how does the arena rating bot work? (3v3 - 1548) |
| 17:21.15 | Mecdemort | hmm is there any big complications with renaming an addon on the SVN |
| 17:21.19 | Pkekyo | !r 1548 |
| 17:21.24 | [dRaCo] | !ap 1548 |
| 17:21.24 | ThraeBot | [dRaCo]: Arena points from a rating of 1548 is, 2v2: 300, 3v3: 343, 5v5: 429 |
| 17:21.25 | Pkekyo | !c 1548 |
| 17:21.29 | [dRaCo] | :> |
| 17:21.29 | Pkekyo | ap, thanks |
| 17:22.06 | Pkekyo | !ap 1732 |
| 17:22.06 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1732 is, 2v2: 466, 3v3: 533, 5v5: 666 |
| 17:22.12 | espai | 666 |
| 17:22.21 | Mecdemort | !ap over 9000! |
| 17:22.25 | Pkekyo | !ap 1731 |
| 17:22.25 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1731 is, 2v2: 465, 3v3: 532, 5v5: 665 |
| 17:22.33 | Pkekyo | sorry about the spam :< |
| 17:22.43 | espai | !ap 1922 |
| 17:22.44 | ThraeBot | espai: Arena points from a rating of 1922 is, 2v2: 645, 3v3: 737, 5v5: 922 |
| 17:22.53 | *** join/#wowace kaelten_ (n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:23.09 | espai | useful. |
| 17:23.16 | espai | irc > armory |
| 17:23.37 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50667 10FuBar_MiniClockFu/MiniClockFu.lua: FuBar_MiniClockFu: readd colored text like it was. |
| 17:23.59 | Xinhuan | ammo, whats the difference between ClockFu and MiniClockFu? |
| 17:23.59 | *** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@unaffiliated/polarina) |
| 17:24.03 | Marli | !ar 400 |
| 17:24.03 | ThraeBot | Marli: Arena rating from 400 points is, 2v2: 1661, 3v3: 1606, 5v5: 1522 |
| 17:24.06 | Marli | :O |
| 17:24.17 | [Ammo] | MiniClockFu does not include a 1984 lib |
| 17:24.21 | espai | was that a wild guess? :P |
| 17:24.30 | [Ammo] | ClockFu = Rock, MiniClockFu is not |
| 17:24.35 | the-golem | lol Mecdemort |
| 17:24.44 | espai | yeah i prefer clockfu. |
| 17:24.48 | NivFreak | I think that arena calculator is out of date |
| 17:24.51 | Xinhuan | is there any functional difference? |
| 17:24.52 | NivFreak | !ap 1500 |
| 17:24.52 | ThraeBot | NivFreak: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376 |
| 17:24.55 | NivFreak | yea |
| 17:24.56 | Marli | !vs eu vashj tooq eu stormscale marli |
| 17:24.58 | NivFreak | that's wrong |
| 17:25.02 | ThraeBot | Marli: Tooq vs Marli! A L70 warrior and a L70 paladin square off!; 7/5/49 vs 41/20/0; Tooq wins by 586 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 17:25.07 | Polarina | !ap 10000 |
| 17:25.07 | ThraeBot | Polarina: Arena points from a rating of 10000 is, 2v2: 998, 3v3: 1141, 5v5: 1426 |
| 17:25.09 | espai | wtf?! |
| 17:25.10 | Mecdemort | lol i'm glad someone is amused with my near-delirious humor |
| 17:25.20 | espai | what the hell |
| 17:25.34 | espai | !vs us warsong spychalski us warsong iradex |
| 17:25.38 | espai | does that really work? |
| 17:25.40 | ThraeBot | espai: Spychalski vs Iradex! A L70 mage and a L70 rogue square off!; 10/48/3 vs 17/44/0; Iradex wins by 146 TBRs! |
| 17:25.48 | Xinhuan | ammo: i meant is there any functional difference ;p |
| 17:26.10 | espai | LOL |
| 17:26.16 | Nandini | Mecdemort: When will you pass the threshhold from near-delerious to full-blown delerious? i'm waiting for that |
| 17:26.18 | xyu | Xinhuan: i think so |
| 17:26.21 | [Ammo] | probably, miniclock does not have features |
| 17:26.25 | espai | whats tbr? |
| 17:26.26 | xyu | one of them has a couple of options |
| 17:26.29 | xyu | ~tbr |
| 17:26.30 | purl | somebody said tbr was ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 17:26.33 | Towbar | !vs eu azjol-nerub towbar us warsong iradex |
| 17:26.35 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar vs Iradex! Two 70 rogues square off!; 19/42/0 vs 17/44/0; Iradex wins by 452 TBRs! |
| 17:26.40 | Mecdemort | in about another 30 minutes, i already can't see straight and my brain has almost stopped working |
| 17:26.43 | Marli | !ar 400 |
| 17:26.43 | ThraeBot | Marli: Arena rating from 400 points is, 2v2: 1661, 3v3: 1606, 5v5: 1522 |
| 17:26.44 | LetheKai|PS | Hey, my friend just told me that Quartz has this... red section of the bar where it takes latency into account, indicating where you can use that /stopcast /cast macro to shave the latency time off of each cast. Is that true? |
| 17:26.45 | espai | nice |
| 17:26.51 | Marli | !ap 400 |
| 17:26.51 | ThraeBot | Marli: Rating given is above or below the threshold for conversion (all 0s). Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings (!ar)? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 17:26.56 | [dRaCo] | LetheKai|PS: yes. |
| 17:27.00 | Marli | !ap 600 |
| 17:27.00 | ThraeBot | Marli: Arena points from a rating of 600 is, 2v2: 23, 3v3: 27, 5v5: 34 |
| 17:27.03 | Vires | #thraebot <-- go there for spammy ThraeBot needs |
| 17:27.15 | Goodfella | yes quartz is FTW |
| 17:27.21 | xyu | LetheKai|PS: i'm not sure if quartz has it , but rapidcast does ^^ |
| 17:27.23 | espai | spammy needs s2 |
| 17:27.24 | LetheKai|PS | Is that what someone was talking about before when I asked about warlock mods? Sorry, didn't catch the name. And we were saying we thought ClassTimer functions the same? |
| 17:27.36 | espai | yes, whartz does |
| 17:27.36 | NivFreak | LetheKai|PS: yes |
| 17:27.37 | LetheKai|PS | Cuz ClassTimers doesn't do that. That I've found. |
| 17:27.44 | espai | quartz* |
| 17:27.45 | xyu | is brewfest new? |
| 17:27.47 | NivFreak | I'm lagged |
| 17:27.47 | LetheKai|PS | Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying back then. =) |
| 17:27.50 | NivFreak | xyu: tomorrow |
| 17:27.50 | Vires | Quartz has a latency thingy to it, yeah |
| 17:28.03 | xyu | i know NivFreak, but did they have it last year? i dont' remember ever having it |
| 17:28.03 | Thrae_ | Sorry guys, the new core for ThraeBot is almost done (hope to finish it today if I have time) -- should be better for anti-bot-abuse |
| 17:28.06 | Nandini | the quartz latency estimate may not be needed after patch 2.3 or 2.4, the devs said they may be changing the API to return times that already take latency into account |
| 17:28.08 | LetheKai|PS | Does it do everything that ClassTimers does? Cuz that sounds extremely sexy. |
| 17:28.09 | NivFreak | xyu: it's new |
| 17:28.11 | Thrae_ | Why am I Thrae_ |
| 17:28.14 | xyu | domo |
| 17:28.28 | LetheKai|PS | Nandini: That's good news! |
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| 17:28.49 | xyu | dwarves inherently win the brew fest |
| 17:28.58 | espai | they'll add threatmeter too. |
| 17:29.03 | xyu | though gnomes must be cheap dates |
| 17:29.06 | LetheKai|PS | If Quartz can completely replace ClassTimers I'm so getting it. |
| 17:29.07 | espai | so no more omen |
| 17:29.13 | Nandini | but until then, the latency timer is very handy especially for PvP or situations where you really must wring every last DPS out |
| 17:29.15 | *** join/#wowace futurekill (n=futureki@ool-45709e5e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:29.41 | LetheKai|PS | Thanks for the info guys. =D |
| 17:29.43 | Nandini | there's also a rogue/druid addon that takes latency into account for energy ticks, but i'm not sure that's applicable anymore |
| 17:29.45 | the-golem | goddmanit |
| 17:29.49 | xyu | omg another world pvp nerf, more GYs!!!!! noooooooooooo |
| 17:29.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 17:29.53 | the-golem | WAU keeps crashing on me |
| 17:29.56 | LetheKai|PS | lol xyu |
| 17:30.01 | espai | DAMN |
| 17:30.13 | espai | if there was something like that |
| 17:30.17 | xyu | i'm serious, i loved ganking in ungoro :( |
| 17:30.33 | sedai| | whats chaman2 exactly? |
| 17:30.33 | xyu | just cuz it took them so long |
| 17:30.41 | Nandini | i think i read somewhere that they changed power regen ticks to always start upon casting, which could screw over rogues and druids who are used to timing their openers right before an energy tick |
| 17:30.46 | LetheKai|PS | That's mean xyu! |
| 17:31.04 | xyu | i know, but i'm nice in the real world so i have to be mean in game |
| 17:31.06 | espai | xyu; more gy's = more kills = more rez timer |
| 17:31.11 | LetheKai|PS | Oh, okay then. |
| 17:31.12 | Crysli | the-golem: Still wanna see a ss of the new UF´s? |
| 17:31.31 | xyu | espai, yes, that is true, but nothing more frustrating than running for 10 minutes and seeing i'm still there |
| 17:31.32 | xyu | :P |
| 17:31.36 | espai | haha |
| 17:31.36 | espai | yeah |
| 17:31.51 | the-golem | Crysli: yessir |
| 17:31.54 | espai | ganking near honor hold is fun too |
| 17:31.55 | LetheKai|PS | Speaking of ganking, I love how Paladins can gank in Gadgetzan and I STILL get ownt for healing my boyfriend (who isn't even fighting back), and make it away with plenty of life left. |
| 17:31.57 | the-golem | (or maam?) |
| 17:32.14 | LetheKai|PS | Or I don't exactly love it, but I sure experienced it. |
| 17:32.17 | Crysli | the-golem: That's sir. I'll log in right away then. |
| 17:32.32 | espai | don't you hate slow torrents? :( |
| 17:32.49 | LetheKai|PS | Espai: Almost as much as torrents with a billion seeds that still won't download. |
| 17:32.52 | espai | 3 days downloading a dvd now :| |
| 17:33.05 | espai | yeah |
| 17:33.13 | espai | this one has like 3k seeds, but i'm only connected to 19. |
| 17:33.13 | sedai| | Has anyone utilized Chaman2? |
| 17:33.23 | Goodfella | wow another 2 hours on downtime GG blizzard |
| 17:33.24 | the-golem | "An exception 'System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException' has occured in DefaultDomain." |
| 17:33.24 | espai | sedai| whats that? |
| 17:33.38 | xyu | i've heard of some extreme cases of camping before. a group of people with accounts on both sides would randomly choose someone and camp them. always...wherever they are. whenever they are online. |
| 17:33.42 | the-golem | :-( |
| 17:33.46 | xyu | it got so bad that that person called blizzard :P |
| 17:33.51 | the-golem | silly WAU wants to crash allthetime |
| 17:34.02 | espai | xyu lol, that really sucks =[ |
| 17:34.03 | steev64 | sedai|: i attempted to |
| 17:34.13 | sylvanaar | the-golem usually because of users not reading the forum sticky |
| 17:34.17 | Polarina | It's even worse when you crit for 666 or 1337... :S |
| 17:34.19 | LetheKai|PS | WoW xyu. |
| 17:34.22 | Polarina | Happens to me all the time. |
| 17:34.25 | espai | the-golem: my wau crashes when i alt-tab to wow. |
| 17:34.27 | sedai| | its a shman mod |
| 17:34.40 | sedai| | i just want to know what it's features are |
| 17:34.40 | the-golem | i dont have wow running |
| 17:34.40 | LetheKai|PS | My tankadin had 1337 mana for awhile. Being a nerd, I took a SS. |
| 17:34.42 | the-golem | it just |
| 17:34.47 | the-golem | errors and crashes |
| 17:34.54 | xyu | hmm i think these little patches are ways to sneak in little changes to the EULA. |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-12 | 03mecdemort * r50668 10IconDoIt/: IconDoIt: Renaming part 1 |
| 17:34.54 | the-golem | after like 20 seconds |
| 17:34.57 | espai | mine just shuts down =[ |
| 17:35.03 | Ellipsis | xyu: got diffs? |
| 17:35.12 | Vires | I have a screenshot of my warlock's shadowburn hitting Vyral the Vile in Silithus for 666. |
| 17:35.24 | Crysli | Vires: That's pwn |
| 17:35.34 | espai | i have a screenshot of my wand critting for 666 =p |
| 17:35.35 | xyu | Ellipsis: i never read them anyway, just pointing out that we have to accept them again every time a 8mb patch comes out :) |
| 17:35.39 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort: i keep reading that as "I can do it" |
| 17:35.40 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 17:35.45 | xyu | i heard one game offered a large sum of money in their EULA |
| 17:35.51 | xyu | and you can collect it if you just read it |
| 17:35.54 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 17:35.56 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort: halp me! |
| 17:35.59 | LetheKai|PS | If I'm building a rogue that can raid, 5-man, and PvP decently, is it worth getting Initiative in the Subtlety tree? (75% chance for extra combo point on Ambush/Garrote/Cheapshot) |
| 17:36.03 | Mecdemort | ya i'm chaning the name |
| 17:36.10 | *** join/#wowace futurekill (n=futureki@ool-45709e5e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:36.13 | Mecdemort | cuz people keep seeing Icon doLt |
| 17:36.34 | Xinhuan | i never saw it that way |
| 17:36.40 | Xinhuan | only as ICanDoIt |
| 17:36.41 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 17:36.43 | steev64 | LetheKai|PS: personal preference there - i have it, and its very nice, i have 5 combo points in the first 3 seconds of a fight |
| 17:36.47 | xyu | woo almost timed my username / pass in this chan >< dual monitors can be dangerous :D |
| 17:36.53 | Jaxon | So, Trac isn't used anymore, what is the replacement? |
| 17:37.15 | LetheKai|PS | Thanks steev64. I am way out of tune with the rogue world, so I just wanted to be sure I wasn't retarded thinking it sounds good. |
| 17:37.53 | dylanm | Jaxon: I assume Jira. |
| 17:37.56 | steev64 | LetheKai|PS: thats just my opinion - im sure there will be someone out there who thinks it is retarded to have :) |
| 17:37.58 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 17:38.02 | Mecdemort | i think i just nuked the addon |
| 17:38.10 | LetheKai|PS | Heehee. |
| 17:38.13 | Jaxon | dylanm: do you have a URL? I don't see anything about it on the front page. |
| 17:38.15 | xyu | some people think frost mages are retarded in raids! |
| 17:38.17 | xyu | but i don't! |
| 17:38.21 | xyu | exclamation point! |
| 17:38.28 | espai | make that two!! |
| 17:38.41 | steev64 | frost mages who know how to manage aggro are awesome |
| 17:38.43 | espai | frost mage is for molten core :/ |
| 17:39.03 | xyu | managing aggro = iceblock amirite? |
| 17:39.09 | espai | nowai |
| 17:39.14 | espai | managing aggro = invis |
| 17:39.15 | espai | lol |
| 17:39.27 | espai | invis + hearth |
| 17:39.42 | xyu | bah screw that delayed aggro reducer, i just ice block, who cares if he takes out a few healers |
| 17:39.45 | xyu | they're just healers |
| 17:39.47 | xyu | they should heal |
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| 17:39.49 | sedai| | i dont know if i can handle another 2 hours |
| 17:39.50 | dylanm | Jaxon: jira.wowace.com |
| 17:39.50 | xyu | stupid people |
| 17:39.55 | espai | lol |
| 17:39.58 | LetheKai|PS | Urgh, I'm having a hard time getting down to Combat Potency in the Combat tree. There's just a bunch of stuff I don't want to put points in. |
| 17:40.05 | Jaxon | dylanm: well, that is painfully obvious. Thanks. |
| 17:40.13 | Lukian | Are there any simple addons to display who's talking? |
| 17:40.13 | espai | usually i use invis when vashj is at 20% |
| 17:40.13 | steev64 | LetheKai|PS: yep |
| 17:40.19 | espai | then i go all out |
| 17:40.21 | espai | but i'm fire |
| 17:40.27 | the-golem | GODDAMN |
| 17:40.28 | xyu | i'll use invis and i'm frost |
| 17:40.28 | espai | frost shouldn't have aggro issues there |
| 17:40.30 | LetheKai|PS | Lukian: There's one built-in already? |
| 17:40.33 | the-golem | so i uninstalled it or whatever |
| 17:40.39 | Lukian | LetheKai|PS, I don't use default UI. |
| 17:40.41 | the-golem | now the new version wont install :-( |
| 17:40.45 | LetheKai|PS | I don't either. |
| 17:40.47 | xyu | i heard some frost mages can get up to 50% crit in raids. |
| 17:40.48 | xyu | yum |
| 17:40.51 | Crysli | Lukian: Doesn't Fubar_VoiceFu do that? |
| 17:40.54 | espai | well |
| 17:40.59 | Lukian | Crysli, cheers |
| 17:40.59 | Towbar | what do you not want to put points into? |
| 17:41.01 | LetheKai|PS | It's just a little... tiny rectangle with a sound icon and the name of whoever's talking. |
| 17:41.02 | Crysli | Haven't checked it tbh |
| 17:41.02 | espai | i can get to 100% :P |
| 17:41.12 | rubik | need an addon that shows who is talking via blizz voice chat.. in a frame.. by listing name of who's talking |
| 17:41.13 | xyu | yeah when you fail your combustion! you failure! |
| 17:41.14 | LetheKai|PS | It's there for me and I've replaced pretty much every part of the default UI. |
| 17:41.17 | espai | yeah haha |
| 17:41.18 | rubik | icon on frame is garbage and useless |
| 17:41.23 | espai | usually it's over at 60% |
| 17:41.28 | xyu | yeah mine too |
| 17:41.35 | LetheKai|PS | Unless one of my mods put it there... I thought it was default. =x |
| 17:41.40 | xyu | my combustion luck sucks |
| 17:41.40 | CIA-12 | 03mecdemort * r50669 10IconDoit/ (. IconDoit.lua IconDoit.toc embeds.xml libs/): IconDoit: Renamed addon: It's not Icon DoLt! Note: do not try to rename an addon without getting sleep. |
| 17:41.44 | steev64 | i think most mages are awesome |
| 17:41.51 | xyu | it's like crit. nothing nothing, ignite gone, crit, nothing nothhing ignite gone, |
| 17:41.52 | steev64 | my previous GM however, was retarded |
| 17:41.53 | xyu | crit |
| 17:41.54 | xyu | YAY! |
| 17:41.56 | espai | hahaha |
| 17:41.57 | espai | yeah |
| 17:41.58 | Ellipsis | Mecdemort: fail more? :P |
| 17:41.59 | espai | exactly |
| 17:42.01 | the-golem | LetheKai|PS: nothats default |
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| 17:42.18 | Mecdemort | my crit is 50% :D |
| 17:42.19 | espai | there was one time i accidentally hit combustion.. but no scorch debuff yet |
| 17:42.25 | espai | so i went ahead.. well |
| 17:42.26 | xyu | you lies! is it really? |
| 17:42.27 | Mecdemort | combustion is useless to me |
| 17:42.29 | xyu | i want 50% |
| 17:42.34 | espai | i DIDNT crit a single scorch |
| 17:42.35 | LetheKai|PS | Thanks. Seems very simple and clean to me, dunno why anyone would need a mod for it. |
| 17:42.48 | xyu | i think i can do it as a frost mage, shoudln't be too hard. |
| 17:42.49 | Mecdemort | im one of the top dps in my guild and i just spam scorch cuz of my crit :D |
| 17:42.59 | Lukian | Crysli, hmm, it doesn't say it works with builtin in the description |
| 17:43.01 | espai | my mage with dps gear |
| 17:43.08 | xyu | what's your +hit though? -4? |
| 17:43.09 | espai | has 37 crit, 1087 dmg |
| 17:43.29 | the-golem | rb |
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| 17:43.37 | espai | with +hit cap i have like 1100 dmg and 28 crit =( |
| 17:43.42 | Crysli | Lukian: Then idunno. I just remembered seeing it once - didn't bother to d/l it |
| 17:43.50 | espai | 28 crit works good tho |
| 17:43.53 | xyu | yeah, same, w/ hit cap i'm like in the teens w/ crit. |
| 17:44.00 | xyu | but i'm in all pre-raid gear |
| 17:44.00 | espai | haha |
| 17:44.03 | rubik | Lukian: have you tried this addon? http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=4883 |
| 17:44.06 | xyu | i JUST got into a good guild. |
| 17:44.08 | espai | this is the part where i suck |
| 17:44.11 | espai | we're trying kael |
| 17:44.13 | xyu | i was accepted yesterday wooot |
| 17:44.15 | xyu | so are we |
| 17:44.15 | espai | stuck on p4 |
| 17:44.16 | rubik | (WhoDat.. shows who's talking.. i haven't tried it yet) |
| 17:44.20 | xyu | i just did kael first time lastnight :) |
| 17:44.23 | espai | nice |
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| 17:44.27 | espai | but you see |
| 17:44.30 | espai | my gear is like |
| 17:44.32 | Crysli | the-golem: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8079/januaryufs001ey1.jpg |
| 17:44.32 | espai | karazhan :| |
| 17:44.37 | xyu | so is mine hehe |
| 17:44.48 | xyu | well not even, there are still a few upgrades from kara |
| 17:44.51 | espai | yeah |
| 17:44.53 | LetheKai|PS | Is Rogue talent Vitality as horrible as it looks? 4% stam, 2% agi increase? I'm not a number cruncher or anything, but that seems pretty bad for tier 7. |
| 17:44.58 | espai | i use the gruul sword |
| 17:45.03 | xyu | i use merciless |
| 17:45.03 | espai | and t5 shoulders |
| 17:45.04 | xyu | heh |
| 17:45.20 | xyu | i'd really like that blessings card |
| 17:45.21 | espai | spellstrike, spellfire, arena shit, darkmoon card |
| 17:45.22 | xyu | omg >< |
| 17:45.24 | futurekill | I think there's a Grid plugin that shows who is talking in voicechat now as well...haven't tried it though |
| 17:45.28 | espai | yeah =p |
| 17:45.30 | xyu | yeah you have that, i wants |
| 17:45.34 | xyu | each card goes for like 100g |
| 17:45.36 | xyu | on my server |
| 17:45.41 | xyu | for blessings |
| 17:45.41 | espai | yeah i had 2 cards |
| 17:45.44 | xyu | for elementals its like 3copper |
| 17:45.46 | espai | i sold them for 80g |
| 17:45.54 | espai | then i started buying them again |: |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-12 | 03markus 07Ace * r50670 10FuBar/: FuBar: create Ace (backporting) branch |
| 17:46.00 | espai | spent 540g =p |
| 17:46.04 | xyu | not bad |
| 17:46.08 | espai | full deck for 1600g |
| 17:46.09 | Crysli | futurekill: That's right. I think it lets you make, like, everything display who's talking - border, icons etc |
| 17:46.10 | xyu | i almost bought the whole set for 1200 lol |
| 17:46.11 | espai | not bad at all |
| 17:46.13 | xyu | but i didn't |
| 17:46.17 | espai | yeah my server had it for 1600 =\ |
| 17:46.21 | [Ammo] | boggle markus, FuBarAce works already |
| 17:46.31 | espai | well, i use solarian wand |
| 17:46.32 | espai | or black stalk |
| 17:46.35 | futurekill | yeah, that's the impression I got... |
| 17:46.36 | espai | and thats it for raid gear =\ |
| 17:46.55 | espai | oh i use season1 pvp wrists LOL |
| 17:47.17 | espai | come on |
| 17:47.23 | espai | now the torrent is downloading at 1.3k |
| 17:47.37 | xyu | it's amazing how different guilds can be. i was w/ a guild that was having trouble downing lootreaver, then i got into this one and it's like....omg people are actually focussed during trash pulls. |
| 17:47.45 | xyu | <3 |
| 17:47.48 | espai | lol |
| 17:47.49 | espai | yeah |
| 17:48.01 | espai | i was in a guild who just recently killed illidan |
| 17:48.09 | espai | i left 2 months after BC tho. |
| 17:48.12 | xyu | like that whole spamming poly on the spellcasters, yeah my other guild never did that :D |
| 17:48.12 | Lukian | cheers rubik, installed and will test when the servers are back up :) |
| 17:48.20 | espai | yeah |
| 17:48.23 | espai | thats the key |
| 17:48.30 | espai | sometimes a warlock would fear them |
| 17:48.41 | espai | we had that whole entrance aggroed :| |
| 17:48.53 | espai | the 2 aoe pulls + the corridor |
| 17:49.08 | espai | now warlocks aren't allowed to fear lol |
| 17:49.18 | futurekill | actually, it's not a Grid plugin...it's built into Grid now |
| 17:49.25 | steev64 | the guild i just left was having issues downing curator |
| 17:49.31 | espai | jesus |
| 17:49.32 | Crysli | futurekill: Grid is sexy. |
| 17:49.35 | xyu | Does Grid form to the amount of people are in the raid yet? |
| 17:49.38 | steev64 | the guild im in now, downs prince regularly |
| 17:49.42 | xyu | or is it still all "layouts" |
| 17:49.56 | futurekill | quite...I started using it and then got a couple ppl in my guild to use it...now almost everyone uses it :) |
| 17:50.04 | espai | grid owns |
| 17:50.14 | xyu | i'd love grid if it just formed to whatever i ahd in the raid >< |
| 17:50.15 | xyu | i mean i love it now |
| 17:50.17 | xyu | but i'd love it mooooore |
| 17:50.20 | LetheKai|PS | Omigosh does Weapon Expertise seriously not work with maces?? Wtf! |
| 17:50.24 | espai | well i just lock it up to 25 |
| 17:50.32 | espai | no |
| 17:50.35 | steev64 | LetheKai|PS: bbq! |
| 17:50.35 | espai | mace spec adds 10 skill |
| 17:50.39 | xyu | yeah but if there are 13 in the raid |
| 17:50.44 | xyu | i want to see 13 w/ no spaces >< |
| 17:50.47 | futurekill | Only thing I would add to grid is a auto-resize feature that makes the grid window and appropriate size based on the number of ppl in the raid |
| 17:50.51 | Crysli | Heroes ep 4 is AWESOME |
| 17:50.54 | espai | well depends on your setup |
| 17:51.01 | steev64 | ep4 !? |
| 17:51.02 | espai | here i can't notice |
| 17:51.04 | steev64 | wait |
| 17:51.05 | steev64 | season 1? |
| 17:51.06 | espai | i just watched ep1 |
| 17:51.09 | Crysli | Yea |
| 17:51.10 | xyu | futurekill: yeah. agreed |
| 17:51.10 | espai | s2, tho |
| 17:51.11 | steev64 | ok |
| 17:51.12 | espai | oh |
| 17:51.14 | xyu | you should patch it! |
| 17:51.17 | LetheKai|PS | Sorry, that's different. Why would they make maces cheaper? |
| 17:51.18 | espai | whens ep2s2? |
| 17:51.19 | steev64 | i was like, s2 hasn't gotten to 4 yet |
| 17:51.25 | steev64 | tonight |
| 17:51.26 | NeoTron | I was all excited using the X-Perl raid admin addon (load / save raid groups) |
| 17:51.37 | *** join/#wowace charon_ (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:51.40 | NeoTron | I amde this nice phase 3+ kael'thas group giving healers shadow priests |
| 17:51.45 | NeoTron | problem is, it doesn't work in combat |
| 17:51.48 | xyu | has scrubs season 7 started yet? |
| 17:51.58 | espai | oh you |
| 17:52.02 | espai | i wish kael wasnt bugged |
| 17:52.07 | NeoTron | that too |
| 17:52.08 | [DiE]Celeb | xyu; 3 weeks i think |
| 17:52.15 | espai | we took some new members to vashj yesterday |
| 17:52.17 | espai | wiped 3 times, jesus. |
| 17:52.19 | xyu | cool, looking forward, it's the only tv show i watch |
| 17:52.19 | NeoTron | althoguh we actually killed all weapons before stage 3 |
| 17:52.24 | Goodfella | i wish i was at kael |
| 17:52.30 | Towbar | no you dont |
| 17:52.35 | Towbar | he is annoying |
| 17:52.37 | xyu | The kael encounter is much faster now isn't it? |
| 17:52.39 | espai | you wish you were past him |
| 17:52.40 | NeoTron | we had 3 mages and 4 locks |
| 17:52.45 | espai | xyu only first phase |
| 17:52.46 | NeoTron | xyu: phase 1 is |
| 17:52.49 | xyu | oh ok |
| 17:52.54 | Crysli | I wish I was at level 10 :p Druids below lv10 are boring as hell |
| 17:52.54 | Towbar | killed him, but damn its annoying |
| 17:52.58 | steev64 | er wait what |
| 17:52.58 | Goodfella | it'd help if i wasnt on a dead server |
| 17:52.59 | futurekill | does anyone know of an easy way to identify libraries that aren't needed anymore? |
| 17:52.59 | NeoTron | which is nice since i was still simple |
| 17:53.01 | espai | but it seems they fucked up phase 3 |
| 17:53.07 | NeoTron | so less of a time sink |
| 17:53.13 | charon | evening |
| 17:53.19 | xyu | i agree |
| 17:53.25 | NeoTron | if you have wpns left, their HP (max/current) is doubled in phase 3 |
| 17:53.31 | cncfanatics | back |
| 17:53.34 | steev64 | futurekill: disable them and look to see what gets disabled |
| 17:53.36 | Mecdemort | hokay nap time |
| 17:53.38 | espai | double as in unkillable |
| 17:53.47 | NeoTron | espai: nah |
| 17:53.52 | NeoTron | double as in double.. |
| 17:53.55 | espai | well not by the right time |
| 17:53.58 | NeoTron | depending on DPS and such it might be impossible |
| 17:54.02 | xyu | like double dare and double jeapordy |
| 17:54.07 | espai | we had 2 adds left |
| 17:54.13 | espai | no good |
| 17:54.23 | futurekill | steev64: I've done that b4 but I thought there might be a nice script or something external to WoW that would let me do that |
| 17:54.34 | espai | well lets hope they fix it |
| 17:54.41 | steev64 | futurekill: not until someone writes one :) |
| 17:54.43 | espai | and maybe bug it so they keep the p1 hp :D |
| 17:55.00 | NeoTron | that'd be nice yes :P |
| 17:55.12 | futurekill | steev64: lol...that's the way it usally works :) |
| 17:55.16 | NeoTron | frankly I do think they need to SLIGHTLY nerf their HP in phase 2/3 |
| 17:55.18 | espai | p3 is the worst :| still haven't seen 5 tho |
| 17:55.25 | NeoTron | just to make the fight somewhat less of a cockblock |
| 17:55.30 | espai | yeah |
| 17:55.34 | NeoTron | we never had a contolled phase 4 |
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| 17:55.49 | espai | or problem in phase 4 are the mind controls |
| 17:55.52 | NeoTron | but it's clearly way above anything prior to id, as well as at least 5-6+ bosses after it |
| 17:55.58 | NeoTron | and one of the most complex fights period |
| 17:56.00 | espai | yeah |
| 17:56.08 | cncfanatics | well, its Kael |
| 17:56.11 | cncfanatics | not some random underling |
| 17:56.13 | NeoTron | heard that even illidan is easier to learn (although I never been there of course() |
| 17:56.19 | espai | few friends from a guild who killed illidan said kael > arch > illi |
| 17:56.31 | LetheKai|PS | Hmm, I have a choice between Initiative and Relentless Strikes for this build. Wish I could have both. >.< What do you rogue-types think? |
| 17:56.35 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: I don't midn the complexity - I just think it's slightly overtuned for the level of progression it's in |
| 17:56.49 | espai | guys think kael will be back on sunwell? |
| 17:56.57 | espai | if he does i'll go back to raiding bwl. |
| 17:57.01 | NeoTron | i.e the fight is fine, complexity wise. just give them a bit less HP |
| 17:57.12 | NeoTron | not 50% HP mind you, maybe a 10-20% nerf |
| 17:57.23 | espai | yeah make it something 'ok hard' |
| 17:57.28 | espai | not like 'JESUS CONTROL THIS SHIT' |
| 17:57.47 | NeoTron | Vashj was hard, and random. |
| 17:57.52 | espai | at first |
| 17:57.55 | NeoTron | Kael'thas is harder but less random until phase 4.. |
| 17:57.57 | espai | now shes cake |
| 17:58.01 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:58.09 | LetheKai|PS | Anyone have input on Initiative vs Relentless Strikes for an all-around Rogue? (PvP/PvE/raiding) |
| 17:58.18 | espai | relentless |
| 17:58.19 | NeoTron | we killed her once, and then couldn't repeat it for a while because we lost our good kiter |
| 17:58.31 | NeoTron | now we've killed her using a shaman kiter, hunter kiter and warlock kiter |
| 17:58.33 | NeoTron | so we're pretty set |
| 17:58.38 | LetheKai|PS | Hmm. Thanks Espai. |
| 17:58.42 | espai | yeah |
| 17:58.52 | Grum | Just some teasers of Cartographer_Routes: http://grum.nl/carto/ |
| 17:58.57 | NeoTron | this week though, SSC isn't on the schedule |
| 17:59.00 | espai | last night we had some problems because half the raid was made of trials |
| 17:59.03 | NeoTron | we lost one raid day last week due to patch day |
| 17:59.10 | NeoTron | this week kael'thas will die! |
| 17:59.15 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:59.21 | espai | my guild isnt raiding ssc anymore, 2 weeks on the eye and hes not down yet =\ |
| 17:59.22 | NeoTron | 1/2 trial is .. err.. rough/ |
| 17:59.25 | Crysli | Grum: Nice! |
| 17:59.29 | espai | yeah |
| 17:59.35 | NeoTron | we've done KT maybe 3 nights |
| 17:59.49 | espai | our main issue is the lag |
| 17:59.49 | Goodfella | my guilds on gruul |
| 17:59.50 | NeoTron | phase 3 regular, phase 4 somewhat regular |
| 17:59.53 | Goodfella | how about that |
| 17:59.56 | Goodfella | be thankful |
| 17:59.57 | NeoTron | we've changed weapon strategy a few times |
| 17:59.58 | LetheKai|PS | Wow Grum. |
| 17:59.58 | Goodfella | >.< |
| 18:00.04 | espai | thats good for just 3 days |
| 18:00.12 | *** join/#wowace MoonWitch (n=MoonWitc@83.101.2.123) |
| 18:00.14 | Trell_ | argh got a quick problem - ran a bigwigs version query check, and the reply won't get off my screen |
| 18:00.16 | espai | yeah we changed quite a lot too |
| 18:00.19 | Trell_ | how do i get rid of it |
| 18:00.21 | *** part/#wowace MoonWitch (n=MoonWitc@83.101.2.123) |
| 18:00.24 | NeoTron | we got to phase 4 our second night there |
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| 18:00.34 | Goodfella | delete bigwigs and get dbm |
| 18:00.35 | NeoTron | long enough for him to start casting pyroblast but entirely uncontrolled |
| 18:00.37 | Goodfella | that should solve it |
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| 18:00.48 | espai | haha |
| 18:00.49 | Trell_ | thanks Goodfella, but I just switched to BW from DBM |
| 18:00.58 | espai | we were doing a step by step thing |
| 18:01.00 | espai | idk how to explain |
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| 18:01.15 | the-golem | bah |
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| 18:01.16 | Funkeh` | Goodfella: Delete your brain and get one from a sheep |
| 18:01.18 | espai | we had to train people how to kite thaladred... wts fingers :| |
| 18:01.21 | the-golem | maybe i can finally get WAU to dl now |
| 18:01.25 | Trell_ | Funkeh - you know? |
| 18:01.38 | Trell_ | it's a window that won't dissapear after running a version query |
| 18:01.45 | Funkeh` | right click the window |
| 18:01.48 | Funkeh` | and click close |
| 18:01.54 | espai | then when we thought it was ok, some people starting fuckin up on that caster |
| 18:01.56 | espai | forgot her name |
| 18:01.59 | Trell_ | only option there is close menu |
| 18:02.01 | espai | just stupid :| |
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| 18:02.36 | espai | ok my internet just went crazy |
| 18:02.41 | espai | google is getting 'not found |
| 18:02.49 | *** join/#wowace Athou_ (i=Cricket_@83.101.11.180) |
| 18:02.52 | Funkeh` | Trell_: it should say close window, lock etc |
| 18:02.57 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu) |
| 18:03.05 | Trell_ | yeah I clicked lock by mistake |
| 18:03.06 | Nandini | espai: didn't you hear? Google quit. |
| 18:03.09 | Trell_ | and now I can't even right click it |
| 18:03.10 | espai | :( |
| 18:03.11 | Trell_ | >_> |
| 18:03.33 | espai | its a virus |
| 18:03.39 | espai | pull the plug |
| 18:03.40 | espai | quick! |
| 18:03.41 | Trell_ | we're just about to pull, and I've got a stupid unmovable window on my screen :( |
| 18:03.45 | Trell_ | sucks :P |
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| 18:03.57 | espai | turn it off |
| 18:03.59 | espai | show some skill |
| 18:04.06 | Trell_ | I don't have any |
| 18:04.13 | espai | :/ |
| 18:04.13 | LetheKai|PS | Okay, is this build alright?: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?2053001000000000000003203250022055000203010505000500000000000000000 - For my boyfriend's char, I don't think he'll accept any build without Camouflage, so it has to be there. |
| 18:04.15 | espai | go back to tibia |
| 18:04.16 | the-golem | fucking still down |
| 18:04.27 | the-golem | 8 hours of no wow is horseshit |
| 18:04.32 | steev64 | camo over mod? |
| 18:04.45 | dylanm | Ahhhh such a bad talent though |
| 18:04.46 | steev64 | oh |
| 18:04.50 | LetheKai|PS | They aren't on the same tier. |
| 18:04.52 | LetheKai|PS | Hehe. |
| 18:04.55 | charon | Trell_: since this worked on the world frame too, try this: /run GetMouseFocus():Hide() |
| 18:04.56 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.01 | charon | Trell_: with the mouse over the window |
| 18:05.06 | LetheKai|PS | He can't stand moving slow dylanm, and loves his sneaks. -_- |
| 18:05.07 | espai | lol |
| 18:05.12 | LetheKai|PS | >.< |
| 18:05.13 | charon | Trell_: WARNING you CAN hide the 3d display (world frame) using that line, not funny |
| 18:05.18 | espai | no flurry =[ |
| 18:05.22 | LetheKai|PS | cnc: Just because of the subtlety? |
| 18:05.24 | dylanm | More like hilarious |
| 18:05.29 | steev64 | stab your boyfriend, get rid of camo, and make it opportunity if you are going to waste 10 points in sub |
| 18:05.31 | Funkeh` | Trell_: Whats unmovable? |
| 18:05.38 | cncfanatics | LetheKai|PS: those 10 points could be used to make his dps WAY huger |
| 18:05.38 | Trell_ | zomg |
| 18:05.42 | Trell_ | whats the reverse of that command |
| 18:05.44 | Trell_ | show? |
| 18:05.48 | cncfanatics | mobs dodge from behind so thats lost dps that can't be won back by gear |
| 18:05.59 | charon | what did you hide :-\ |
| 18:06.00 | LetheKai|PS | I can't FORCE him to spec the way I want him to! I'm 98% sure he'll reject any suggestion that doesn't involve Camo. =P |
| 18:06.07 | cncfanatics | also mace is pvp |
| 18:06.10 | LetheKai|PS | WAY huger! |
| 18:06.11 | Funkeh` | Trell_: You mean you locked it and the menu won't show? |
| 18:06.12 | Trell_ | blah, everything |
| 18:06.12 | charon | show probably, if you know how to get at the frame again. relog otherwise |
| 18:06.20 | charon | or /reloadui |
| 18:06.22 | Trell_ | i'll just relog prolly quicker |
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| 18:06.32 | steev64 | LetheKai|PS: then tell him to get the enchant on his boots rather than gimping himsef |
| 18:06.35 | steev64 | himself* |
| 18:06.44 | LetheKai|PS | I asked earlier cnc, I thought someone said it'd do in PvE as well. Not AS good as swords, but still functional. Sounds reasonable, since you save 3 pts going into the weapon skill talent. |
| 18:06.45 | Eggi | mace is not only pvp... there are some good pve maces |
| 18:06.46 | Trell_ | actually, none of the buttons are working |
| 18:06.49 | steev64 | thats pretty much a 10 point waste to move slightly faster |
| 18:06.50 | Trell_ | esc, enter, nothing |
| 18:06.53 | cncfanatics | Eggi, the SPEC is pvp |
| 18:06.59 | cncfanatics | it doesnt add dmg and u dont stun bosses |
| 18:07.04 | rubik | i have a question for you rogues.. we have a rogue in our (casual, karazhan clearing, working on GL) guild.. who has all the purples out of pvp/karazhan.. yet refuses to give up the 2-piece bonus of the stupid assassination blue set.. is he right in doing so? |
| 18:07.07 | charon | Trell_: alt-f4 and log in again |
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| 18:07.18 | steev64 | rubik: yes |
| 18:07.19 | cncfanatics | rubik, whats the bonus ? |
| 18:07.20 | LetheKai|PS | You get 10 mace skill without having to spend 3 more points at least. Must be Blizz's concession to mace PvE. |
| 18:07.21 | charon | (omg what did i do) |
| 18:07.30 | steev64 | 6 seconds of added haste from cs/ks |
| 18:07.36 | espai | 160 haste |
| 18:07.37 | rubik | some huge +haste bonus i think |
| 18:07.38 | cncfanatics | oh, and no blade fury in that spec :( |
| 18:07.39 | rubik | yeah |
| 18:07.46 | espai | thats like 7% haste |
| 18:07.51 | LetheKai|PS | Blade Flurry do you mean? |
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| 18:08.06 | rubik | "(2) Set: Your Cheap Shot and Kidney Shot attacks grant you 160 haste rating for 6 sec." |
| 18:08.21 | espai | its a good bonus |
| 18:08.24 | espai | until t5 :P |
| 18:08.28 | Eggi | you also get 10 mace points |
| 18:08.29 | rubik | k.. so he knows what he's doing then |
| 18:08.33 | Eggi | if you are a rogue |
| 18:08.34 | LetheKai|PS | Okay. So if a Rogue wants to PvP AND raid, he has to be sword now? No mace allowed? |
| 18:08.44 | xyu | i wish while the servers were down there was a UI server up. Which only allows you to login, but you can't move or interact. only invite people to parties, raids. :P |
| 18:08.56 | LetheKai|PS | lol xyu, you and me both. |
| 18:08.56 | espai | xyu you can always use 'alternate methods' |
| 18:09.05 | Nandini | except melee haste effects have been reduced somewhat since patch 2.2, it takes more haste rating to get the same % increase in attack speed |
| 18:09.19 | LetheKai|PS | cnc: Is that right? |
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| 18:09.30 | Eggi | there are no good swords until illidan... so you can only decide between dagger and mace |
| 18:09.33 | sylvanaar | they change it back again |
| 18:09.35 | Kody- | <LetheKai|PS> Okay. So if a Rogue wants to PvP AND raid, he has to be sword now? No mace allowed? - I believe Wodin talked about this a bit, mace mainhand/sword offhand is actually the best DPS setup post-2.2 |
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| 18:09.45 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 18:09.45 | xyu | hmm yeah that's true. i used to have an "alternate method" set up, but htat was before blizzard cracked down on those. so i wouldn't know where to find them now :) |
| 18:09.51 | espai | mace sucks :\ |
| 18:09.53 | LetheKai|PS | Kody: Does that mean investing points in mace AND sword spec? |
| 18:09.57 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 18:09.58 | espai | no increased dps |
| 18:09.59 | LetheKai|PS | O.O |
| 18:10.11 | rubik | even then though.. he must be doing something wrong cause i out-dps him with my druid in cat form |
| 18:10.11 | Kody- | Lemme see if I can get a link to the numbers |
| 18:10.20 | espai | sword spec gives you a chance for an extra hit.. dagger gives you 5% crit |
| 18:10.27 | espai | fist 5% crit. |
| 18:10.32 | LetheKai|PS | Out-dps who? Wodin? |
| 18:10.35 | rubik | and i shouldn't out-dps a rogue |
| 18:10.41 | Lothaer | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404484 |
| 18:10.56 | Eggi | why would you mix a sword with a mace? also... there is are nearly no swords |
| 18:10.59 | espai | i outdps rogues @ void reaver :( |
| 18:11.00 | LetheKai|PS | Belated hi Lothaer. |
| 18:11.05 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:11.28 | Lothaer | so ive read the changes in 2.3 i jus tposted a link to the class specific changes |
| 18:11.31 | Ellipsis | Blizz can go diaf. |
| 18:11.36 | Ellipsis | WANT SERVERS THX |
| 18:11.45 | espai | wants too |
| 18:11.46 | xyu | Ritual of Refreshment will allow players to pick up their own stacks of food and water rofl? ritual of refreshment! |
| 18:11.46 | Lothaer | Escape Artist CD increased to 1min lol |
| 18:11.56 | Kody- | 1:45 |
| 18:12.06 | steev64 | Threat caused by next Ambush, Garrote or Backstab is reduced by 50% and cooldown increased to 40 seconds |
| 18:12.13 | steev64 | what cooldown? |
| 18:12.18 | LetheKai|PS | So this is a pretty lively topic. I need a build that will get my boyfriend into raids, but still let him enjoy PvP - AND have the opportunity to get a decent weapon. If there are no good swords, whenever we kill Illidan I doubt the first amazing rogue sword is going straight to him. |
| 18:12.24 | Lothaer | shadow step CD |
| 18:12.31 | steev64 | ahh |
| 18:12.55 | Lothaer | Elunes grace has a point to it now |
| 18:12.57 | xyu | Detect Magic removed, all players will see their target's beneficial effects at all times. :( |
| 18:12.59 | steev64 | All poisons now last for one hour <3 |
| 18:13.07 | Kody- | err whoops, sorry he was talking about fists mainhand/sword offhand |
| 18:13.08 | Kody- | not mace |
| 18:13.08 | Lothaer | and reduced mana cost on Fort and Spi buffs YAY!!! |
| 18:13.11 | Kody- | yeah mace sucks as usual |
| 18:13.15 | LetheKai|PS | That's a big difference haha. |
| 18:13.36 | Lothaer | new mount with CE requires Exalted and 2000 gold |
| 18:13.41 | LetheKai|PS | I thought if you had fist mainhand you couldn't parry or something. I may be misremembering, and my rogue is like 2 years old. |
| 18:13.42 | Lothaer | flying mount |
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| 18:13.53 | xyu | omg arcane shot dispels now |
| 18:14.00 | xyu | well not now |
| 18:14.05 | Lothaer | wyvern sting is instant |
| 18:14.06 | LetheKai|PS | Hah. |
| 18:14.23 | LetheKai|PS | Thanks for the post btw Lothaer. |
| 18:14.30 | espai | next stop> mages get fear |
| 18:14.30 | Eggi | yes thats nice if you want to dps a druid with livebloom |
| 18:14.39 | Lothaer | Karazhan and Zul"Aman bosses now drop Heroic Badges |
| 18:14.42 | Lothaer | np |
| 18:14.59 | Kody- | http://wow.curse.com/c/patch230-changes/ explains the shaman changes a bit more |
| 18:15.02 | *** join/#wowace lprich (n=rascal84@unaffiliated/rascal84) |
| 18:15.14 | Lothaer | heres the complete list |
| 18:15.15 | Lothaer | http://wow.curse.com/c/patch230-changes/ |
| 18:15.48 | Lothaer | new boss in Scarlet Monastary Graveyard |
| 18:15.56 | the-golem | GRRRRRRRRRR |
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| 18:16.01 | Lothaer | Headless Horseman requires 5man lvl 70 |
| 18:16.11 | Lothaer | he also drops Magic Broom and Flying Broom |
| 18:16.17 | rubik | i thought the horseman guy is in 2.2.2? |
| 18:16.20 | Kody- | he's in the SM graveyard? |
| 18:16.22 | Lothaer | both have normal and epic speeds |
| 18:16.26 | Lothaer | but only last 14 days |
| 18:16.35 | Kody- | lame :( |
| 18:16.45 | Lothaer | but dosnt require skill |
| 18:16.47 | Lothaer | i think |
| 18:16.50 | Kody- | i want a flying broom all year round |
| 18:16.53 | Kody- | oh that's kind of cool |
| 18:16.58 | Lothaer | horse man is out now |
| 18:17.02 | Lothaer | in 2.2.2 |
| 18:17.03 | rubik | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33184 |
| 18:17.04 | CIA-12 | 03markus 07Ace * r50671 10FuBar/FuBar/: FuBar: copy last Ace-based revision to Ace branch |
| 18:17.14 | LetheKai|PS | So hmm... Should I recommend fists, swords, or daggers for my BF if maces are so atrocious? Swords don't sound promising if there are no superior swords available 'til Illidan. |
| 18:17.20 | rubik | flying broom = ground mount |
| 18:17.27 | Lothaer | no nono |
| 18:17.32 | Lothaer | Magic Broom = ground mount |
| 18:17.39 | Lothaer | Flying Broom = Flying Mount |
| 18:17.44 | rubik | oh.. yeah |
| 18:17.46 | Crysli | the-golem: Didya get the link: |
| 18:17.49 | Crysli | ?* |
| 18:17.59 | Lothaer | he also has other loot |
| 18:18.30 | Lothaer | go here http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Headless_Horseman for strategy and loot and lore and stats/skills |
| 18:18.36 | xyu | hmm i wonder if tankadins will need persuit of justice |
| 18:18.53 | rubik | yeah.. the rings (at least melee ones) are kind of meh |
| 18:19.02 | Lothaer | look at the helm |
| 18:19.06 | Lothaer | OOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 18:19.09 | Lothaer | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 18:19.13 | Lothaer | and hes a Dialy Quest aswell |
| 18:19.17 | Lothaer | u can do him once a day |
| 18:19.34 | Fisker- | now i'm thinking with portals |
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| 18:19.41 | Ellipsis | Fisker- ilu |
| 18:20.58 | *** join/#wowace degli (n=degli@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) |
| 18:21.01 | degli | hi all |
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| 18:21.43 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50672 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 18:21.43 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
| 18:21.43 | CIA-12 | - Berserk Cooldown > Berserk |
| 18:21.43 | CIA-12 | - affliction trigger tweak |
| 18:21.43 | CIA-12 | - remove ~ for flame burst since its pretty exact |
| 18:21.45 | sylvanaar | realms are up...you knew that im sure |
| 18:22.32 | *** join/#wowace lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85.127.118.107) |
| 18:23.11 | futurekill | I don't think they are |
| 18:23.18 | Ellipsis | some are |
| 18:23.19 | Ellipsis | most aren't |
| 18:23.20 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 18:23.21 | LetheKai|PS | Wow, they made my Persuit of Justice insanely hot. |
| 18:23.23 | Nandini | a few are up, i think 8 |
| 18:23.27 | LetheKai|PS | Why would they do that, Paladins don't need buffs. |
| 18:23.31 | Ellipsis | more by the second though |
| 18:23.42 | Nandini | yup 10 up now |
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| 18:23.53 | futurekill | "In the process of the normally scheduled maintenace we have come across an additional issue that will extend the maintenacnce for another 2 hours" |
| 18:24.12 | LetheKai|PS | 15% permanent, non-dispellable, innate run/mount speed increase? AND 3% resistance to all schools? Why? >.< |
| 18:24.13 | Ellipsis | none I have any chars on...yet =[ |
| 18:24.14 | futurekill | I must be one of the unlucky ones then |
| 18:25.59 | LetheKai|PS | xyu: Seems like it won't be necessary, but nice for tankadins. I love persuit of justice, but pally tanks don't need to do much running. =( |
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| 18:26.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
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| 18:29.10 | futurekill | anyone know what "<string>:\"*:OnEnter\":1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...'" means...it's been popping up in bugsack ever since 2.2 |
| 18:29.37 | Amadeo | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043950920&sid=1 |
| 18:29.39 | Amadeo | good news |
| 18:29.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Funkeh`: ping |
| 18:30.46 | Ellipsis | looks like they're all up now o.o |
| 18:31.28 | futurekill | Amadeo: yes, very good news |
| 18:31.54 | Amadeo | I want my framerate back so I can enable my sound again |
| 18:32.19 | futurekill | Ellipsis: nope, not all :( |
| 18:32.23 | Xinhuan | futurekill: it means someone tried to use the variable name "..." in a function that isn't vararg |
| 18:32.37 | Xinhuan | ... is a special variable |
| 18:32.40 | the-golem | ckknight: i like the new rock look |
| 18:32.50 | ckknight | glad you like it |
| 18:32.56 | Amadeo | it..rocks? |
| 18:33.09 | futurekill | Xinhuan: ok, unfortunately it doesn't tell me which addon is producing the message |
| 18:33.10 | ckknight | it's a lot better than before, at least |
| 18:33.15 | Crysli|afk | ah, the-golem, you're there at last. Did you see the screenshot I linked? |
| 18:33.16 | Amadeo | much cleaner |
| 18:33.18 | ckknight | fits into the rest of the game better and everything |
| 18:33.22 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 18:33.39 | LetheKai|PS | I am in shock they're buffing Paladins so much in 2.3. I feel OP when I play one and I'm not even that good. |
| 18:33.41 | Xinhuan | futurekill: unfortunately, if bugsack isn't telling you, then nobody can |
| 18:34.03 | *** join/#wowace kadrahil (i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net) |
| 18:34.13 | Xinhuan | futurekill: you probably didn't paste the full details of the error or read it fully? |
| 18:34.19 | futurekill | Xinhuan: yeah, that's what I figured...I'll just have to keep updating and hope it goes away. Fortunately, it only occurs once when I log in |
| 18:34.32 | Xinhuan | well go narrow it down then |
| 18:35.02 | futurekill | Xinhuan: no, I was copying it from the !BugGrabber.lua in my saved variables |
| 18:35.22 | futurekill | Xinhuan: I wish I could narrow it down but my server is down ;)... |
| 18:35.32 | Xinhuan | half the servers seem up now |
| 18:35.35 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: the armory seems to think my T4 helm is a warden's arrow |
| 18:35.43 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 18:35.51 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 18:35.54 | Crysli | kadrahil: Does the game think so too? |
| 18:36.01 | Crysli | Cause if it does I want a screenshot of it |
| 18:36.04 | kadrahil | Crysli: i haven't logged in yet |
| 18:36.09 | Crysli | D: |
| 18:36.14 | kadrahil | Crysli: the icon on the armry is the same, but the tooltip is a warden's arrow |
| 18:36.33 | Crysli | Ah :) |
| 18:36.40 | xyu | Hmm, this is a pretty neat page. http://www.wowreputationcalculator.com/ |
| 18:37.06 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: pong |
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| 18:37.17 | kadrahil | xyu: does that work for US armory yet? |
| 18:37.22 | xyu | yea |
| 18:38.06 | Amadeo | Can Shamans level up effectively as Elemental? |
| 18:38.28 | Crysli | Amadeo: I know they can until about 35. DUnno how it is after then. |
| 18:38.40 | LetheKai|PS | Huh, all shamans get to wield 2handers soon... |
| 18:38.47 | Amadeo | Good to know :) |
| 18:39.15 | kadrahil | i only have to kill 578 more ogres to get revered with the mag'har |
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| 18:39.31 | LetheKai|PS | I haven't played Shammy since WoW went gold, but back then my ex and I made a great Resto/Elemental shammy combo. Leveled 1 - 60 together that way. They've changed so much since then I doubt that info is of any use, though. |
| 18:39.43 | Crysli | Amadeo: You won't get much competition for loot, cause the only other people who'll want the gear you need are Balance Druids, and they're sort of rare before 40. |
| 18:40.00 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50673 10Cartographer_Mining/ (. Cartographer_Mining.toc): |
| 18:40.00 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Mining: |
| 18:40.00 | CIA-12 | - Updated tsvn:logtemplate |
| 18:40.00 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC |
| 18:40.17 | kadrahil | this guy's playing paper mario on project64 in class in front of me |
| 18:40.20 | LetheKai|PS | Yeah, I bet it would be fun. You don't see many around. |
| 18:40.27 | Amadeo | Crysli: That's true! |
| 18:40.35 | Amadeo | :) |
| 18:40.40 | LetheKai|PS | Least he's not playing WoW, kadrahil. |
| 18:41.01 | Crysli | Amadeo: Also, Both Stormstrike and DW are offlimits until then. So try leveling with it and see how you like it. |
| 18:41.01 | espai | some realms are online |
| 18:41.03 | espai | WOOT |
| 18:41.07 | espai | not mine tho |
| 18:41.45 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50674 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Less annoying PlaySoundFile() workaround |
| 18:41.46 | LetheKai|PS | Frost Shock no longer subject to diminishing returns?! Are these real notes or just someone's wish-list? =O |
| 18:42.05 | Amadeo | Crysli: I just hear that Enhancement is the way to go, but I'm getting tired of melee on most of my classes |
| 18:42.40 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50675 10Cartographer_Noteshare/ (. Cartographer_Noteshare.toc): |
| 18:42.40 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Noteshare: |
| 18:42.40 | CIA-12 | - Added tsvn:logtemplate |
| 18:42.40 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC |
| 18:44.21 | Crysli | Amadeo: I did 1-32 with Ele. Just start stacking up on Enh gear once you notice your downtime increases. |
| 18:45.01 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@c51470eec.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:45.49 | the-golem | WOW IS BACK! |
| 18:45.59 | the-golem | Crysli: if you posted a screeny i missed it |
| 18:45.59 | Crysli | Hooray. |
| 18:46.06 | espai | warsong is down =[ |
| 18:46.07 | Goodfella | wtf this is stupid |
| 18:46.11 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50676 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc: |
| 18:46.11 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 18:46.11 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC |
| 18:46.11 | Goodfella | brewfest isnt even started |
| 18:46.13 | Crysli | the-golem: Then here it is again: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8079/januaryufs001ey1.jpg |
| 18:46.14 | futurekill | Arygos still down :( |
| 18:46.47 | espai | Crysli /need |
| 18:46.52 | the-golem | Crysli: wow |
| 18:46.55 | the-golem | super nice |
| 18:47.00 | Crysli | Woot. |
| 18:47.04 | espai | i can has dat? |
| 18:47.21 | the-golem | is that th level on the sides? |
| 18:47.30 | Crysli | the-golem: Yes sir. |
| 18:47.41 | the-golem | kewl |
| 18:48.00 | Crysli | Tapestry did it, and I thought it looked awesome. |
| 18:48.01 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50677 10Cartographer_Stats/ (. Cartographer_Stats.toc): |
| 18:48.01 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Stats: |
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| 18:48.01 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC |
| 18:48.03 | the-golem | im guessing the one on the left is yerself |
| 18:48.04 | the-golem | ? |
| 18:48.10 | Crysli | the-golem. Yeah |
| 18:48.11 | the-golem | since it has no name, lol |
| 18:48.17 | espai | Crysli where can i get that? :( |
| 18:48.33 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50678 10Cartographer_Treasure/ (. Cartographer_Treasure.toc): |
| 18:48.33 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Treasure: |
| 18:48.33 | CIA-12 | - Updated tsvn:logtemplate |
| 18:48.33 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC |
| 18:48.49 | Crysli | espai: I made it myself, but it's real easy. It's just Pitbull with the info in the blank space. |
| 18:49.03 | Sinaloit | brewfest is tomorrow |
| 18:49.07 | espai | yeah |
| 18:49.12 | espai | i tried pitbull once. wayyyyyyy too much =P |
| 18:49.15 | espai | whats that font? |
| 18:49.19 | Sinaloit | hallows end isn't until the 13th i thought? |
| 18:49.25 | CIA-12 | 03bethink * r50679 10CrossRealm/ (. CrossRealm.lua CrossRealm.toc Locale-enUS.lua gpl.txt): |
| 18:49.25 | CIA-12 | CrossRealm: initial import |
| 18:49.25 | CIA-12 | - Compares current auctions to a reference price source and identifies potential buys. |
| 18:49.27 | Crysli | Font is Pixeldust. |
| 18:49.36 | espai | thanks :] |
| 18:50.17 | futurekill | hallows end starts the 18th http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/calendar/ |
| 18:50.36 | Goodfella | so... when does brewfest actually start |
| 18:51.26 | futurekill | today I think |
| 18:51.47 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50680 10ClosetGnome_Banker/ (. ClosetGnome_Banker.toc): |
| 18:51.47 | CIA-12 | ClosetGnome_Banker: |
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| 18:51.49 | Goodfella | its just npcs setting up |
| 18:52.09 | futurekill | from today's patch notes: "Brewfest has begun..." |
| 18:52.29 | Sinaloit | I could swear i read somewhere it starts the 3rd |
| 18:52.48 | Nandini | hmm my color by hostility and color NPCs by hostility options in pitbull don't seem to work quite right |
| 18:53.20 | Nandini | they display correctly at first, but for neutral targets that become hostile, they don't update |
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| 18:54.24 | RaydenUni | "Warlocks and Pallies got land mounts because they don't have teleports, astral recall, aspect of the cheetah, travel form, sprint, etc." <-- and priests get? |
| 18:54.40 | Vires | The ability to melt faces? |
| 18:54.43 | RaydenUni | "Yeah, the favorite thing about my priest is my travel form." <-- heh, the first reply |
| 18:54.53 | futurekill | priests get to walk :) |
| 18:54.56 | Nandini | there must be an issue with the UNIT_FACTION bucket event |
| 18:55.16 | Gngsk | RaydenUni, levitate |
| 18:55.27 | RaydenUni | so we get to travel at normal speed on water? |
| 18:55.31 | mikma | priests have ability to get a summon where they wan't |
| 18:55.33 | Gngsk | yep, quite OP |
| 18:55.35 | RaydenUni | yeah that's definately comparable to other classes travel forms |
| 18:55.38 | Amadeo | I saw a PvP video with a levitate fight in it, was pretty funny |
| 18:55.46 | mikma | "wanna come heal xyz?" |
| 18:55.47 | Nandini | you get mind vision, so you get to fantasize about being someplace sooner |
| 18:55.52 | mikma | 'summon me' |
| 18:55.56 | RaydenUni | only once we get lvl 2 |
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| 18:56.33 | CIA-12 | 03bethink * r50681 10CrossRealm/: |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-12 | CrossRealm: |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-12 | - Set properties |
| 18:56.42 | Nandini | woohoo my completely dry-coded module for pitbull seems to work flawlessly |
| 18:56.58 | LetheKai|PS | What'd you do? |
| 18:57.09 | RaydenUni | ew |
| 18:57.18 | RaydenUni | aol is going to use wow.com for a WoW social networking site |
| 18:57.28 | Nandini | i made a module called "Full bar" that can be class-colored, reaction colored, happiness colored, like some of the health bar opeions |
| 18:57.39 | Nandini | except it's always full |
| 18:57.52 | Crysli | Nandini: That sounds awesome |
| 18:57.53 | Nandini | and it's just a texture, not a statusbar |
| 18:58.03 | ckknight | good times, Nandini |
| 18:58.15 | LetheKai|PS | I couldn't do that. -_- |
| 18:58.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Nandini: why? |
| 18:58.19 | Nandini | i like it because for pvp, it's helpful to have a big indication of the opposing faction's class |
| 18:58.26 | Nandini | even if they are low on health |
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| 18:58.45 | Nandini | ckknight: is there an issue with the UNIT_FACTION event? |
| 18:58.46 | Seerah | would it have worked to just add a color to blank space? |
| 18:58.58 | Nandini | yes, except some people would want both, seerah |
| 18:59.03 | Seerah | ahhh |
| 18:59.23 | LetheKai|PS | Oh hi Seerah, thanks for answering my dumb questions on the interface forums. =) |
| 18:59.29 | Nandini | although i made this just for myself, so i suppose i could have just replaced the "blank space" frame |
| 18:59.35 | Seerah | :) |
| 19:00.24 | LetheKai|PS | My server doesn't want to get back to work, apparently. |
| 19:00.30 | Nandini | my module is registered for the UNIT_FACTION bucket event the same was as the HealthBar module, and neither of them are getting updates when an NPC's reaction changes from neutral to hostile or vice versa |
| 19:01.26 | Seerah | thought I'd share this will you all, since it made me laugh out loud :) http://www.darklegacycomics.com/index.html |
| 19:01.56 | Sinaloit | just logged in brewfest isn't happening yet, there is a setup crew doing setup outside org though, its goblins wearing dwarf masks heh |
| 19:03.29 | LetheKai|PS | lol I love that gnome. |
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| 19:05.16 | Amadeo | Seerah: hehe, nice, I've thought that before |
| 19:05.29 | xyu | Servers up(US) |
| 19:05.35 | xyu | <3 spam! |
| 19:05.43 | Ellipsis | xyu ....little late there? |
| 19:05.45 | Amadeo | I'm guilty of not reading quest text at times and once I see an escort start walking, I just let them go |
| 19:05.50 | xyu | late? |
| 19:05.54 | xyu | it just popped up for me :( |
| 19:05.55 | Ellipsis | they've been up for a while |
| 19:05.56 | xyu | bastards |
| 19:06.00 | xyu | holding out on me |
| 19:06.32 | Ellipsis | I logged in ~30mins ago |
| 19:06.36 | Ellipsis | maybe your server was later :P |
| 19:06.46 | xyu | no i saw a completely blank screen :( |
| 19:06.48 | xyu | waahh |
| 19:06.50 | LetheKai|PS | Which weapon spec do you guys recommend for a raid-and-PvP Rogue? Apparently if I recommend maces, a lot of people here wouldn't even let the guy raid. |
| 19:07.07 | LetheKai|PS | My server's still not up. 8( |
| 19:07.23 | phoenixphylo | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ looks up to me |
| 19:07.27 | phoenixphylo | all servers up |
| 19:08.53 | espai | up |
| 19:08.55 | espai | and i have 2000ms. |
| 19:10.44 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50682 10Ace3/tests/wow_api.lua: |
| 19:10.44 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - tests |
| 19:10.44 | CIA-12 | - Add a small dump(...) function that returns a nicely formatted string for debugging purposes |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50683 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConsole: |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-12 | - Change GetArgs() so it returns next next position to be scanned at the end, rather than the remainder of string. Less string garbage that way. |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-12 | - GetArgs() will now always return 1e99 at the end of the string, regardless of trailing space. |
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| 19:14.29 | CIA-12 | 03bethink * r50684 10CrossRealm/CrossRealm.toc: |
| 19:14.29 | CIA-12 | CrossRealm: |
| 19:14.29 | CIA-12 | - TOC updated |
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| 19:16.03 | phoenixphylo | my ping is crazy mad high too |
| 19:16.08 | phoenixphylo | doubled |
| 19:17.32 | xyu | does Buffalo have the buff name abbrevations above the icons? |
| 19:17.47 | Ellipsis | Buffalo2 |
| 19:17.48 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:18.07 | xyu | I don't see Buffalo2 any longer, only Buffalo2_Dreamlayout |
| 19:18.19 | xyu | (in WAU) |
| 19:18.27 | Ellipsis | it was moved to branches |
| 19:18.34 | Ellipsis | because it's still not really stable/usable |
| 19:18.39 | xyu | ah ok |
| 19:19.33 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r50685 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: !AlarLib Fixed a memory leak in :FrameCrateCastButtonList |
| 19:19.51 | Polarina | Memory leak? |
| 19:20.08 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r50686 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation Fixed swapammo and freebag |
| 19:20.09 | Ellipsis | that's AlarLib |
| 19:20.09 | the-golem | oops |
| 19:20.11 | Ellipsis | don't ask questions. |
| 19:20.11 | the-golem | :-( |
| 19:20.31 | the-golem | somehow i got rid of my channelnames on prat and idk where they went ^^ lol |
| 19:20.51 | Polarina | How are memory leak possible in garbage collected language other than leaving a reference to an unused object around? |
| 19:21.06 | Ellipsis | Polarina: you're not familiar with Alar's code, are you? |
| 19:21.16 | Polarina | Ellipsis: No. |
| 19:21.20 | Ellipsis | I suggest reading it |
| 19:21.28 | Ellipsis | although try not to take it too seriously, it may cause brain damage |
| 19:21.29 | Polarina | Must be messy. |
| 19:22.00 | LetheKai|PS | Is there a mod that can move the Blizzard error box thing? Where errors popup? |
| 19:22.03 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r50687 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelperFubar.lua: AlarBGHelper Fixed: Errore when clicnk on Fubar Menu |
| 19:22.10 | Ellipsis | LetheKai|PS: BugGrabber/BugSack |
| 19:22.21 | LetheKai|PS | Oh, really? I didn't expect that. |
| 19:22.26 | LetheKai|PS | Thanks, I'll look into it. |
| 19:22.32 | Seerah | it moves them into the BugSack |
| 19:22.37 | Seerah | on FuBar |
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| 19:23.13 | LetheKai|PS | Oh. I think you mean the popup popups (why wouldn't you). I'm not very clear hehe. I mean... the area where it shows "Target out of range" and such, in red text. Sorry about that! |
| 19:23.21 | Ellipsis | oh, ErrorMonster fo rthat |
| 19:23.30 | Ellipsis | s/fo rthat/for that/ |
| 19:23.39 | LetheKai|PS | It actually moves the field elsewhere? |
| 19:23.51 | Ellipsis | it has custom supression/filtering for those |
| 19:24.00 | Ellipsis | not sure whether it can change display location or what, I haven't used it |
| 19:24.11 | LetheKai|PS | Yeah, I still want the messages, just want to move them south a little. Hehe. |
| 19:24.33 | LetheKai|PS | I had ErrorMonster thinking it would do that, but couldn't find the option. Didn't spend a long time on it though. |
| 19:24.36 | the-golem | shouldnt the Config for the channel names in prat be in ... ChannelNames? ... i seriously cant find the "module" that lets me configure how my channels show up |
| 19:24.38 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50688 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:24.38 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConsole |
| 19:24.38 | CIA-12 | - GetArgs() will now return nextpos after skipping leading spaces. |
| 19:24.50 | Ellipsis | you may be able to move the frame somehow with Visor or similar |
| 19:24.58 | Ellipsis | but I don't know the frame name |
| 19:24.58 | LetheKai|PS | Hmm, good idea. |
| 19:25.11 | LetheKai|PS | Aww, my lil 'lock just got a compliment on her name! =D |
| 19:25.20 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r50689 10AlarTTFrame/ (4 files): |
| 19:25.20 | CIA-12 | AlarTTFrame Fixed: Configuration options now should work |
| 19:25.20 | CIA-12 | New featrure: vairable ostile mincastbar based on stance/form |
| 19:25.24 | chexsum | is channel names mod enabled ? |
| 19:30.24 | the-golem | chexsum: lemme check |
| 19:31.20 | the-golem | chexsum: yeah, but .. all it has is Show Space, Show Colon, Favorites, and Toggle |
| 19:31.42 | the-golem | nothing for Editing how it appears |
| 19:31.54 | _rane | anyone know how to get mana bars included in the Grid? |
| 19:32.10 | sylvanaar | um expand the node? |
| 19:33.35 | the-golem | sylvanaar : .. WOW .. lol |
| 19:33.38 | the-golem | <--- nub |
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| 19:34.06 | the-golem | for some reason i expect stuff to auto expand |
| 19:34.14 | sylvanaar | its just not designed to be viewed that way |
| 19:34.43 | the-golem | sylvanaar: yeah, its just been so long since i've edited stuff, i totally forgot ^^ |
| 19:36.05 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50690 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/ (AceConfigCmd-3.0/ AceConfigSlash-3.0/): |
| 19:36.05 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 19:36.05 | CIA-12 | - Rename AceConfigSlash to AceConfigCmd for consistency |
| 19:37.03 | chexsum | golem - you have to do them all one at a time by the looks of it |
| 19:38.57 | the-golem | *nod* i've gotten them back, thanks |
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| 19:41.12 | Nandini | quick svn question, for files using the Date and Rev keywords, do I use $Date$ and $Rev$ within the files to have them replaced on commit? |
| 19:42.05 | pastamancer | svn propset svn:keywords |
| 19:44.22 | Nandini | the properties were already set when i checked the files out, just not sure if i need to replace the $Revision: xxxxx $ and $Date: xxxx-xx-xx xx:xx:xx -xxxx (xxx, xx xx xxxx) $ text within the files in order for it to be updated when i commit |
| 19:44.39 | genetik- | it will automagically replace it with updated information |
| 19:44.44 | genetik- | on commit |
| 19:44.46 | Nandini | splendid :) |
| 19:44.52 | genetik- | as long as the property is set |
| 19:45.01 | Nandini | i've done plenty of checking out in the past, just not checking in, and yes the property is set |
| 19:46.11 | Nandini | thanks :) |
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| 19:55.05 | _rane | pastamancer: you should know if it's possible to get Grid display mana bars, am i right? |
| 19:55.07 | CIA-12 | 03nandini * r50691 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 19:55.07 | CIA-12 | PitBull |
| 19:55.07 | CIA-12 | - Added support in PitBull_MetaLayout.lua for FullBar |
| 19:56.48 | SLVRsurfR | anyone else have trouble with the prat edit box texture feature? It looks screwed up when I use it. Commenting out "tileSize = 16," (line 754) and changing "tile = true" to false (line 755) in editbox.lua seems to fix the problem for me. |
| 19:57.04 | the-golem | FullBar? |
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| 19:58.50 | Nandini | the-golem: like HealthBar, only always full (and just a texture, not a statusbar) |
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| 20:00.00 | Nandini | could be used for class coloring, reaction coloring, happiness coloring, maybe even aggro/range coloring although that would probably require changes in those modules |
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| 20:00.31 | Nandini | basically a blank space with a colorable texture added :P |
| 20:00.59 | Nandini | or a HealthBar with the StatusBar frame removed |
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| 20:01.47 | Mindrila | Hello there |
| 20:01.56 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r50692 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): |
| 20:01.56 | CIA-12 | WoWEquip: - Updated Unstable Talasite gem color. |
| 20:01.56 | CIA-12 | - Updated EnchantIDs for all the gems (including patch 2.2 gems) and several enchants in the localization file. |
| 20:02.12 | [Ammo] | try this btw, type on guildchat: [Anal Beads of the Wolf] |
| 20:02.19 | [Ammo] | and then ask 10 seconds later who clicekd it |
| 20:02.26 | [Ammo] | then ask, who CTRL-Clicked it |
| 20:02.33 | [Ammo] | works well :p |
| 20:02.48 | Nandini | you are so subversive |
| 20:02.48 | liquidzoo | lol |
| 20:03.03 | [Ammo] | I had 10 people clicking and 5 or so ctrl-clicking as well |
| 20:03.03 | Nandini | you should run a daycare or something, to prepare our children for a sarcastic future |
| 20:03.40 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50693 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Slashcommands.lua Slashcommands.txt): FlexBar2: Fixed a slashcommand |
| 20:05.05 | Killmore2 | anyone know an addon, I need to find the center of my screen :\ |
| 20:05.17 | Ominous | ckknight: ping |
| 20:05.44 | Mindrila | Can someone fix the emailserver from wowace.com? I'm not receiving the activation mail for my forum account nor am I receiving the auth mail for my wiki account. I've checked my spamfilter twice, the email didn't land there eitcher. So I dont know where the emails get lost on the way to me.... |
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| 20:08.01 | Nandini | Killmore2: try the addon called "align", it's not ace, i can't remember which site i found it on |
| 20:08.12 | [Ammo] | create a frame, give it a texture done |
| 20:08.12 | JoshBorke | wowinterface |
| 20:08.21 | [Ammo] | frames default to center |
| 20:08.24 | [Ammo] | but align works :) |
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| 20:08.31 | JoshBorke | align + snaptogrid = awesomeness |
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| 20:08.45 | Killmore2 | Nandini: thx |
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| 20:11.46 | Mindrila | has someone knowledge of how to create personal views in assesment? |
| 20:12.06 | Trae | Calling all Linux Gawds.... has anyone gotten the new voice stuff to work with WoW and Linux? |
| 20:13.07 | Ominous | k |
| 20:13.14 | Ominous | oops wrong window |
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| 20:13.23 | lprich | lol, MT |
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| 20:15.11 | Polarina | Trae: Linux is just a very small and simple part of my operating system. Since I don't mess with it that much, and few here do. I doubt you would get any responce. |
| 20:15.20 | Polarina | s/responce/response/ |
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| 20:15.35 | Polarina | s/and simple/and a simple/ |
| 20:15.48 | dreamss | the wine guy sits on wowwiki |
| 20:15.51 | dreamss | try asking there |
| 20:15.51 | Polarina | purl: Add support for multiple fixes. |
| 20:15.59 | Trae | heh |
| 20:16.01 | Trae | wtf? |
| 20:16.15 | Trae | yeah there were like 10 guys in here using Linux and Wine the other day :P |
| 20:16.23 | Polarina | Trae: Tell me in simple words what Linux is. |
| 20:16.38 | dreamss | linux is the kernel |
| 20:16.40 | dreamss | thats all |
| 20:16.41 | dreamss | :P |
| 20:16.43 | dreamss | actually |
| 20:16.48 | Polarina | dreamss: That's true. |
| 20:18.31 | Trae | Polarina, ubuntu.com |
| 20:18.40 | lprich | ubuntu or debian |
| 20:18.43 | Nick2 | Anyone know where brewfest is? |
| 20:18.53 | Bibi | starting tomorrow |
| 20:18.55 | Polarina | Trae: That's an distrubution. Linux is like about half a precent of it. |
| 20:18.57 | Nick2 | okay, thanks |
| 20:18.58 | CIA-12 | 03nandini * r50694 10PitBull_FullBar/ (. FullBar.lua PitBull_FullBar.toc): |
| 20:18.58 | CIA-12 | PitBull_FullBar: initial commit |
| 20:18.58 | CIA-12 | - displays a colorable, always-full bar in PitBull frames |
| 20:19.02 | Bibi | well, I think it is |
| 20:19.06 | Bibi | otherwise it's in front of orgrimmar/ironforge |
| 20:19.09 | Nick2 | patched today for it |
| 20:19.12 | Nick2 | okay, thanks |
| 20:19.19 | dreamss | like i siaid, linux is the kernel |
| 20:19.23 | dreamss | simple answer |
| 20:19.33 | Trae | Polarina, if you know that much, why are you asking me? |
| 20:20.02 | Polarina | Trae: To find out what Linux is really to you. And to correct your false knowledge, that is. |
| 20:20.14 | Trae | Polarina, I've been running Linux since 96' |
| 20:20.26 | hyperChipmunk | wah wah pick nits |
| 20:20.26 | Trae | Polarina, exclusively. |
| 20:20.30 | Polarina | Trae: What operating system do you use? |
| 20:20.31 | hyperChipmunk | the question is still valid |
| 20:20.46 | Trae | Polarina, heh, I don't feel like you being didactic. cheers |
| 20:20.52 | hyperChipmunk | he asked whether anyone was both using linux and had voice chat features in wow working |
| 20:20.57 | hyperChipmunk | myself, no |
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| 20:22.18 | Polarina | Trae: I'm still waiting for an answer. |
| 20:23.24 | Polarina | Trae: Issues with wine differ from operating systems. |
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| 20:25.51 | durcyn | so much pedantry for one channel |
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| 20:26.29 | Polarina | Trae: I'm listed as a double maintainer for WoW in Wine's AppDB. |
| 20:26.53 | Mindrila | where can i get wau 2.0? |
| 20:27.22 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50695 10FlexBar2/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:27.22 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 20:27.22 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.22 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.42 | Trae | Polarina, Ok I'm not sure as to why you feel you need to lecture people on what "Linux" is. |
| 20:27.44 | ulic | ~wau2 |
| 20:27.45 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 20:28.09 | Trae | Polarina, I've listend to RMS go on enough about it. I don't need to hear it from anyone else. heh |
| 20:28.17 | Trae | Polarina, and in person, many times. |
| 20:28.28 | rob` | hah, i got the RMS speech too |
| 20:28.32 | Trae | (Someone really needs to introduce Richard to soap) |
| 20:28.37 | Trae | and not the programming language |
| 20:29.18 | Mindrila | thank you ulic |
| 20:29.46 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r50696 10Enhancer/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:29.46 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 20:29.46 | CIA-12 | - Made sure turning of Roman Number actually turns of Roman numbers |
| 20:29.46 | CIA-12 | - Made sure turning of EIP actually turns of EIP |
| 20:29.46 | CIA-12 | - Added an option to set time format to Blizzards (2 m) |
| 20:29.47 | CIA-12 | - Added toggles for enabling/disabling expiring, expired and slain messages |
| 20:29.49 | CIA-12 | - Enabled users to decide when the expires warning should come (3-15 secs) |
| 20:33.08 | Paene | ~ask to ask |
| 20:33.08 | purl | Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! Omit any irrelevant details. If nobody answers then we don't know or are busy for a few minutes. Wait and don't bug us. If you must ask again wait until new people have joined the channel. |
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| 20:36.43 | Mindrila | Does somebody know an addon displaying the DPS dealt splitted up by damage type? |
| 20:36.56 | [dRaCo] | recount? |
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| 20:37.11 | durcyn | Mindrila: have you tried control-clicking on Assessment's DPS display? |
| 20:37.50 | Mindrila | hmm no i didn't |
| 20:40.58 | xyu | arg, how do i unlock quartz >< |
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| 20:41.19 | [dRaCo] | there's a checkbox |
| 20:41.20 | cryogen | cncfanatics: wanna play some now, or is it a bit late? |
| 20:41.28 | Aeyan | Open the waterfall, go to Player, Mirror, whatever and uncheck Lck |
| 20:41.39 | Aeyan | *Lock |
| 20:41.49 | xyu | hmm which would the "resurrection timer" be under |
| 20:42.17 | Aeyan | Position is controlled by the Mirror bar |
| 20:42.28 | Mindrila | durcyn: controlclicking doesn't change a thing |
| 20:42.33 | xyu | thanks |
| 20:42.47 | xyu | however i dont' see an unlock under mirror |
| 20:43.01 | xyu | i guess i use anchor frame or something. |
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| 20:43.52 | Mindrila | durcyn: ah ok i see i have to control click on a value not on the display set, thanks for the info |
| 20:44.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, hmmm |
| 20:44.33 | cncfanatics | cryogen, i'm lvl 26 on my rogue, catch up ? :) |
| 20:44.34 | Aeyan | xyu: Oh, yeah, you unlock it you need to use Free |
| 20:44.40 | Aeyan | For the anchor frame |
| 20:44.47 | cryogen | cncfanatics: :D |
| 20:44.48 | Aeyan | Damn it, *to unlock it |
| 20:44.49 | xyu | how do i get a temporary one up? |
| 20:44.53 | xyu | i've set it to free |
| 20:44.56 | Aeyan | Unlock it |
| 20:44.56 | xyu | but nothing to drag :( |
| 20:45.07 | xyu | ahh |
| 20:45.11 | xyu | it enables the lock feature |
| 20:45.12 | xyu | got it |
| 20:45.15 | Aeyan | Yep |
| 20:45.22 | cryogen | cncfanatics: who are you in game? |
| 20:46.01 | cncfanatics | Evolve |
| 20:46.02 | cncfanatics | rogue |
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| 20:47.58 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r50697 10DKPmon/ (DKPmon.toc DKPmon_leader.tga main.lua): DKPmon: Incorporate icon-changing patch by Vlorn; cleaned up a little & drycoded. |
| 20:48.48 | NivFreak | hey, does anyone have a raid monitor that lets you build stat bars from specific groups of people, not by class? |
| 20:48.53 | NivFreak | XRS does 90% of what I want |
| 20:49.13 | NivFreak | but it's hard to build a true "healer mana" bar |
| 20:49.15 | NivFreak | by class |
| 20:49.17 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r50698 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: Update interface number. |
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| 20:49.32 | hyperChipmunk | if it's 90% there, your best bet would be to modify it yourself |
| 20:49.51 | NivFreak | it's a good question to ask I've learned |
| 20:49.59 | NivFreak | since half the time someone has done it ;) |
| 20:50.40 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r50699 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/DKPmon_ZSumAuction.toc: DKPmon_ZSumAuction: toc update. |
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| 20:51.29 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r50701 10DKPmon_FCZS/DKPmon_FCZS.toc: DKPmon_FCZS: toc update. |
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| 20:53.38 | TNSe | heh |
| 20:53.54 | TNSe | poor healers are failing like mad on inner demons on leothoras :( |
| 20:54.00 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50707 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.txt: |
| 20:54.00 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 20:54.00 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:55.13 | Xinhuan | TNSe: soulstone them ;p |
| 20:55.21 | TNSe | heh |
| 20:55.26 | TNSe | priests manage it fine |
| 20:55.29 | dodga | NivFreak: Check out RABuffs |
| 20:55.31 | TNSe | its the druids that get pwnd |
| 20:55.34 | TNSe | gonna be sooo easy after 2.3 |
| 20:55.38 | cryogen | hmm |
| 20:55.40 | cryogen | need a new |
| 20:55.40 | Xinhuan | soulstone the druids |
| 20:56.07 | cryogen | s/new/name/ |
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| 20:56.27 | NivFreak | dodga: does that have raid status bars? |
| 20:56.38 | dodga | NivFreak: Yes |
| 20:56.40 | NivFreak | cool |
| 20:56.43 | NivFreak | I'll try it tonight |
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| 20:57.09 | Xinhuan | s/test/test2 |
| 20:57.19 | Xinhuan | s/test/test2 |
| 20:57.26 | Xinhuan | s/test/test2/ |
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| 20:57.42 | Xinhuan | s/te/te2/ |
| 20:57.51 | Xinhuan | s/te/te2/2/ |
| 20:58.04 | Xinhuan | aww doesn't do more than 1 replacement |
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| 21:00.30 | ckknight | Ominous: pong |
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| 21:02.49 | lprich | regex's are awesome if you know how to use them |
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| 21:03.31 | Ellipsis | http://xkcd.com/208/ |
| 21:03.38 | Ellipsis | there's an XKCD for every conversation. |
| 21:05.00 | cncfanatics | nice one :o |
| 21:05.22 | cryogen | heh |
| 21:05.28 | cryogen | cncfanatics: wow fb2 is complicated :D |
| 21:05.29 | NightHawkAtWork | sadly, i knew which one that is without clicking |
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| 21:05.47 | cncfanatics | cryogen, http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2/Help/Reference |
| 21:05.56 | cncfanatics | also see the quickstart at http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
| 21:05.57 | Xinhuan | anyone uses WoWEquip here? :) |
| 21:05.59 | cncfanatics | they're both very helpful |
| 21:06.00 | JCinDE | ckknight: Suggestion for Pitbull... An option for each frame to hide when in a raid. |
| 21:06.09 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I will when I got a 70 again :) |
| 21:06.16 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 21:06.20 | Ellipsis | JCinDE: that doesn't make sense for most frames |
| 21:06.26 | Ellipsis | "hide raid frame in raid" |
| 21:06.29 | Ellipsis | "hide target in raid" |
| 21:06.30 | JCinDE | okay then just the ones it makes sense for =) |
| 21:06.32 | Ellipsis | "hide pet in raid" |
| 21:06.35 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 21:06.41 | Xinhuan | i've updated it with a new version about 5 days ago, but yet to see any complaints/posts, so i dont' know if its working ;p |
| 21:06.42 | JCinDE | target does make sense |
| 21:06.42 | the-golem | hmmm |
| 21:06.45 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: um, kind of? I have it loaded and created a couple gear sets, but keep forgetting about it |
| 21:06.46 | JCinDE | for healers |
| 21:06.47 | the-golem | quartz needs a " |
| 21:06.54 | the-golem | ... damn my fat fingers |
| 21:06.57 | Ellipsis | healers still use targeting occasionally |
| 21:06.58 | JCinDE | who use a different raid ui |
| 21:07.07 | Xinhuan | v0.8 has profile sharing, you can send/receive profiles to other ppl that use it |
| 21:07.13 | Xinhuan | does it work for you? :) |
| 21:07.13 | the-golem | needs a config mode like pitbull so you can drag stuff around and not hafta do guesswork |
| 21:07.21 | Xinhuan | i only tested it by duo boxing |
| 21:07.29 | the-golem | unless it does, and i missed it? |
| 21:07.30 | Ellipsis | the-golem: it has one, unlock the bar. |
| 21:07.35 | JCinDE | I personally prefer grid for raid healing. Want everything else to just go away and stop cluttering my screen. |
| 21:07.40 | orionshock | wtf patch? |
| 21:07.42 | the-golem | ugh |
| 21:07.48 | the-golem | Ellipsis: thanks, lawl |
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| 21:08.42 | JCinDE | I'll have to look into writing my own pitbull hack to do it. |
| 21:09.10 | Ellipsis | you could disable PitBull altogether when you join a raid |
| 21:09.20 | Ellipsis | but then you'd need something else to hide Blizz frames |
| 21:09.31 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the "tutorial" fails! :p |
| 21:09.32 | JCinDE | grid does I thin |
| 21:09.34 | JCinDE | think* |
| 21:09.46 | cryogen | 3. /fb group button=1-12 name=bar1 |
| 21:09.46 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.57 | cryogen | no it doesnt it says "missing required paramter group" :) |
| 21:09.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, its a very quick setup tuto :) |
| 21:10.25 | cncfanatics | meh, forgot renaming it there |
| 21:10.42 | Xinhuan | how do you make FB2 print a list of your buttons/groups? |
| 21:10.57 | cryogen | cncfanatics: whats it supposed to be? :) |
| 21:11.09 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.16 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50708 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Possible bugfix with mind control warnings |
| 21:11.17 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, the above |
| 21:11.20 | Xinhuan | does it print out 1 line per button? |
| 21:11.27 | Xinhuan | and then 1 line per group? |
| 21:11.34 | cncfanatics | 1 button per line, no groups or anything |
| 21:11.36 | cncfanatics | will add that |
| 21:11.53 | Xinhuan | so the user is forced to remember the "group names" that he created at the moment? |
| 21:12.18 | Xinhuan | if he has 50 buttons, it will also print 50 lines, and the first 20 can't be viewed because it scrolled out of sight? :) |
| 21:12.29 | Xinhuan | hehe :) |
| 21:12.40 | cncfanatics | altering the list command |
| 21:12.49 | cncfanatics | on a side note |
| 21:12.53 | cncfanatics | u can't get buttons of screen |
| 21:13.04 | Xinhuan | just helping you improve the addon ;p |
| 21:13.06 | cncfanatics | and group names appear when u unlock buttons with /fb unlock button=* |
| 21:13.12 | cncfanatics | yea, i'm altering list :) |
| 21:13.20 | cncfanatics | just correcting ya xD |
| 21:14.14 | CIA-12 | 03nandini * r50709 10PitBull_FullBar/ (. PitBull_FullBar.toc): |
| 21:14.14 | CIA-12 | PitBull_FullBar: |
| 21:14.14 | CIA-12 | - Added TOC metadata and svn properties |
| 21:14.16 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.08 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.24 | cryogen | ok that works |
| 21:16.37 | cryogen | cncfanatics: fairly sure you got rows and columns mixed up in /fb line :) |
| 21:17.16 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I do ? |
| 21:17.58 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.03 | cryogen | rows go horizontally, no? |
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| 21:18.15 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 21:18.16 | cncfanatics | lol |
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| 21:19.00 | cncfanatics | will fix that tomorrow |
| 21:19.02 | cncfanatics | remember me it |
| 21:19.03 | cncfanatics | need sleep now |
| 21:19.30 | cryogen | hehe |
| 21:19.36 | NivFreak | 20 moroes kills, and no freaking belt |
| 21:19.37 | NivFreak | he hates me |
| 21:19.42 | cryogen | one more quick question, can i auto hide unused buttons? |
| 21:19.45 | NivFreak | grr |
| 21:19.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, not yet |
| 21:19.56 | cncfanatics | remember tomorroz too |
| 21:19.57 | cryogen | k |
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| 21:20.12 | rubik | i think we've killed moroes 50x and haven't seen the tanking trinket (moroes' pocket watch) drop once |
| 21:20.47 | NivFreak | took 19 kills for that |
| 21:20.48 | NivFreak | for me |
| 21:20.50 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:20.54 | rubik | hehe |
| 21:20.56 | NivFreak | yet one of our other groups |
| 21:21.01 | NivFreak | had it drops 5 weeks in a row |
| 21:21.01 | NivFreak | .... |
| 21:21.18 | rubik | yeah.. one of other karazhan pre-set groups in the guild has had it drop 5+ times |
| 21:21.45 | NivFreak | I was gearing up a druid to OT |
| 21:21.49 | NivFreak | and he got it on week 2 |
| 21:21.50 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:22.04 | NivFreak | looks like we've had 7 drop total |
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| 21:26.32 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50710 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): |
| 21:26.32 | CIA-12 | FuBar - FUB-21 |
| 21:26.32 | CIA-12 | - now works if LibJostle-3.0 doesn't exist. Still included as a lib, though. |
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| 21:29.40 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50711 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: Fix some issues with x-server player links |
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| 21:30.02 | orionshock | ckknight: the last change you made to pitbull - what exactly does it do? |
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| 21:30.13 | ckknight | orionshock: um, what? |
| 21:30.17 | ckknight | which change? |
| 21:30.28 | orionshock | the one that put it into fubar |
| 21:30.29 | Ominous_ | ckknight: what a suggestion for rock config? |
| 21:30.42 | Ellipsis | [2:13:30 pm] <CIA-12> nandini * r50709 PitBull_FullBar/ (. PitBull_FullBar.toc): |
| 21:30.44 | ckknight | Ominous_: verbs are your friends |
| 21:30.53 | ckknight | orionshock: you said PitBull |
| 21:30.53 | Ellipsis | doesn't look like ckknight to me orionshock :P |
| 21:31.00 | Ominous_ | ckknight: gave up english for a reason :P |
| 21:31.00 | Nandini | i think the last change to that was probably my change to metalayout to enable a separate PitBull_FullBar module i created |
| 21:31.03 | orionshock | not that one |
| 21:31.08 | ckknight | Ominous_: gimme your suggestion |
| 21:31.14 | orionshock | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/msg/c27a031058974eda |
| 21:31.16 | orionshock | that one |
| 21:31.27 | orionshock | PitBull- Added support in PitBull_MetaLayout.lua for FullBar |
| 21:31.28 | Ominous_ | ckknight: instead of radial icon in the addon drop down list have a tick like in dewdrop |
| 21:31.34 | Ellipsis | that's not FuBar |
| 21:31.34 | ckknight | orionshock: that was Nandini |
| 21:31.37 | Nandini | i checked first and had several people test it |
| 21:31.43 | Ellipsis | orionshock: read carefully |
| 21:31.48 | orionshock | ah i see |
| 21:31.51 | ckknight | Ominous_: Dewdrop uses radio as well, so you know |
| 21:31.55 | vithos | lol, why are my frames slightly misaligned again after this patch just like the last? |
| 21:32.07 | Ellipsis | because Blizzard is Blizzard? |
| 21:32.08 | Nandini | maybe they messed with the default UI scale again |
| 21:32.20 | Nandini | apparently they made it 0.9 by "mistake" in 2.2.0 |
| 21:32.32 | vithos | that'd explain it. |
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| 21:33.12 | Nandini | i hope the name FullBar doesn't confuse people, i guess it does look/sound a little like FuBar |
| 21:33.42 | Nandini | i had originally called it ClassBar but it's not limited to coloring by Class |
| 21:33.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Nandini: it'll only confuse morons who can't read. |
| 21:34.14 | Chompers | http://img.waffleimages.com/4d22ae57fc849e473606abc9fa9936fb2064d86e/SP_A0319.jpg |
| 21:34.37 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 21:34.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:35.20 | Nandini | only available in west virginia? |
| 21:35.25 | CIA-12 | 03siz * r50712 10ItemSync/tooltip/Tooltip_Display.lua: |
| 21:35.25 | CIA-12 | ItemSync: |
| 21:35.25 | CIA-12 | - Bugfix for EnhTooltip (Auctioneer) users by Astaldo http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6318.msg145471#msg145471 |
| 21:35.52 | Kerafyrm | ItemSync is the new better LootLink huh? |
| 21:36.31 | NightHawkAtWork | itemsync isn't precisely new. |
| 21:36.59 | Kerafyrm | point |
| 21:37.30 | sylvanaar | Man, i wrote most of the code to integrate prat and wim - and the author is like "that will make a dependency" wtf its full of if Prat then blah end 's |
| 21:37.31 | Chompers | isn't ItemDB better? |
| 21:37.45 | durcyn | eh, they're both a bit wonky. ludwig or linkerator |
| 21:37.47 | orionshock | Nandini: what/how exactly do you use your modification to pitbull? |
| 21:38.14 | Antiarc | GetLink is my preference |
| 21:38.26 | Nandini | it's a separate addon module for PitBull, it basically creates a textured blank space or an always full health bar |
| 21:38.57 | Nandini | it should be showing up on files by now, i committed it about an hour ago i think |
| 21:39.16 | Nandini | there's a forum thread and wiki page for it |
| 21:39.17 | Ellipsis | Nandini: does it use the health/power bar texture, or does it have a separately configurable one, or ...? |
| 21:39.46 | Keias | Kerafyrm, I've grown attached to Ludwig myself |
| 21:39.50 | Keias | For item "DB" type mods |
| 21:39.51 | Nandini | right now it just uses the global PitBull texture but i noted that a possible future change is to allow a separate texture to distinguish it from the statusbars |
| 21:40.12 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 21:40.14 | Nandini | all it really would take to do that is a few changes in its options |
| 21:40.28 | Ellipsis | I might try it out at that point...it would be nice to use for decoration with one of the flashier statusbar textures ^-^ |
| 21:40.42 | Nandini | i thought so too, sort of like a title bar for a window |
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| 21:40.57 | JCinDE | are there any mods that expand the guild roster and show more information in the list? |
| 21:41.20 | Nandini | this was my first commit to the svn though so i wanted to limit it to something that was already thoroughly tested by my friends and found to work |
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| 21:41.38 | Ellipsis | yeah, makes sense, it's a good idea though :) |
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| 21:44.05 | Nandini | i had always used a blank space before to put name/class/level texts in, this just allows me to go one step further and add a colorable texture |
| 21:44.22 | Nandini | but i didn't make any changes to the blank space, this is a seaparate type of bar that can be added |
| 21:45.38 | Ailleus | Can any1 explain if tattle uses default tooltip or can be tested somehow? |
| 21:46.32 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:46.35 | NivFreak | WoW forums crack me up |
| 21:46.44 | orionshock | Ailleus: yes |
| 21:46.54 | NivFreak | I fully support spreading this rumor that a Van pull bug is why the Horde is winning AV |
| 21:47.05 | orionshock | NivFreak: no |
| 21:47.12 | NivFreak | it's hilarious |
| 21:47.17 | orionshock | just won AV back to back, no bug, |
| 21:47.19 | NivFreak | I've never seen it done in BG9 |
| 21:47.21 | orionshock | alliance just suck |
| 21:47.23 | NivFreak | and we win 90% |
| 21:47.27 | NivFreak | orionshock: that's my point |
| 21:48.04 | Nandini | i've done AV a million times and have never been able to pull Van without aggroing any remaining mobs in there |
| 21:48.14 | NivFreak | same |
| 21:48.25 | NivFreak | if I'm lucky I can get a single marshal |
| 21:48.27 | NivFreak | but usually 2 |
| 21:48.56 | Nandini | i can sometimes get 1 marshall, but i can never figure out why, i always pull from the same spot |
| 21:49.02 | NivFreak | same |
| 21:49.13 | NivFreak | but I support this rumor |
| 21:49.20 | NivFreak | I love it when they give in |
| 21:49.32 | Nandini | someone said once that hunters could do it if they have a 42 yard ranged shot or something |
| 21:49.33 | NivFreak | We leave 5 people on D just to slow them down |
| 21:49.34 | NivFreak | hah |
| 21:49.52 | NivFreak | the bug is real, but not common in my battlegroup |
| 21:49.56 | NivFreak | I've never seen it done |
| 21:50.08 | NivFreak | and I'm always there for the van pull |
| 21:50.16 | Nandini | me too, i'm usually the tank |
| 21:50.27 | NivFreak | same |
| 21:50.41 | Nandini | unless we have a ton of tanks, then sometimes i trinket back to mess with the allies |
| 21:51.03 | NivFreak | fear them into the warmasters |
| 21:51.04 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:51.46 | Nandini | i'm a druid, so i FF their tanks and cyclone their healers and throw a hurricane, then run in and roar at them all :) |
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| 21:52.23 | Nandini | then i just swipe indiscriminately till i die |
| 21:52.53 | NivFreak | heh |
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| 21:53.21 | NivFreak | sometimes I like to pop shield wall and run into the middle of thier pack |
| 21:53.26 | vithos | i hate you. |
| 21:53.27 | NivFreak | while our casters burn them down |
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| 21:53.34 | vithos | stop messing with my PvE race :( |
| 21:53.35 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:53.51 | NivFreak | I got 100 marks from AV this week |
| 21:53.53 | NivFreak | just crazy |
| 21:54.02 | NivFreak | doing 2K honor/hour in pugs |
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| 21:54.57 | vithos | i don't like PvP at all really, so AV is the only BG i play, and i play it rarely |
| 21:55.27 | NivFreak | I'm certainly more PvE focused since BC |
| 21:55.34 | NivFreak | but I still play around |
| 21:55.43 | NivFreak | soak up some welfare epics |
| 21:55.44 | vithos | but it seems like your earlier defense is more harmful to us than defending the bunker |
| 21:56.11 | NivFreak | it's in our interest to get you guys down to FWGY as fast as possible |
| 21:56.17 | NivFreak | and then hold you there |
| 21:56.21 | vithos | because us alliance just think "great, they're turtling, what a waste of time" |
| 21:56.28 | vithos | and we just don't care anymore |
| 21:56.34 | NivFreak | then we take back IB |
| 21:56.43 | NivFreak | and take out the undefended alliance base |
| 21:56.44 | NivFreak | heh |
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| 21:57.07 | NivFreak | We always get some full that caps SF and makes 20 people respawn at SP |
| 21:57.51 | NivFreak | s/full/fool/ |
| 21:58.01 | vithos | i don't even know the names of stuff. |
| 21:58.07 | NivFreak | heh |
| 21:58.14 | vithos | i just like to do 100% more damage than the #2 person on the scoreboard |
| 21:58.21 | NivFreak | class? |
| 21:58.23 | vithos | hunter |
| 21:58.39 | NivFreak | that'd be impressive |
| 21:58.59 | Ordog | we got some agents in the alliance who reset our boss alll the time :) |
| 21:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | in pvp? |
| 21:59.48 | hyperChipmunk | hunters can do that much dmg in mass pvp |
| 22:00.02 | vithos | i'm talking about in AV, when there's no/little defense |
| 22:00.30 | NivFreak | hyperChipmunk: warriors are usually topping the charts in a lot of the AVs I see |
| 22:00.47 | Ordog | i really think AV is too complex for the casual wow kiddie |
| 22:01.13 | NivFreak | send them back to WSG then |
| 22:01.16 | Ordog | always wondering wtf they think they are doing |
| 22:01.31 | vithos | i mean literally doubling the next guy's damage rarely happens. but unhampered i'm usually at least 100k ahead |
| 22:01.38 | vithos | often more |
| 22:01.54 | m4rku5 | can anyone suggest me a good lib for guis ? |
| 22:01.59 | Ordog | my character sucks |
| 22:02.15 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-180-34.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 22:02.16 | Ordog | so im the strategic mastermind beeing overheard all the time so i go nuts |
| 22:02.55 | vithos | but also i don't have/wear any pvp gear to AV |
| 22:03.11 | vithos | !c us moonrunner vith |
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| 22:04.03 | vithos | i seem to be doing it wrong |
| 22:05.29 | NightHawkAtWork | no, thraebot just appears to be absent |
| 22:10.22 | CIA-12 | 03aznamir * r50713 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPowerOptions.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 22:10.22 | CIA-12 | PallyPower: |
| 22:10.22 | CIA-12 | - added "/pp reset" command to reset all mis-positioned frames back to the center of the screen. |
| 22:11.22 | NivFreak | vithos: yea, you have that advantage |
| 22:11.33 | NivFreak | if wore my PVE DPS set to AV, I'd die in about .5 seconds |
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| 22:11.58 | NivFreak | trade some AP/crit for stam/resil and I'm much more likely to kill people |
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| 22:13.50 | vithos | yeah, that's my secret to topping the meters: avoid PvP combat |
| 22:14.25 | vithos | i mean i'll kill people if i have to, i just try to stay on offense |
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| 22:16.14 | lprich | Gareeeetings! |
| 22:17.08 | Lukian | oh hai |
| 22:17.59 | lprich | Oh look, it's a Lukian! |
| 22:22.13 | kadrahil | vithos: bah |
| 22:22.27 | kadrahil | vithos: i dps the bosses and kill people and i'm still in top 3 most matches |
| 22:22.57 | kadrahil | i top the damage in AB and WSG usually too |
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| 22:28.24 | Mecdemort | wow they broke item macros and didnt even have the decency to put it in the patchnotes |
| 22:28.50 | NivFreak | ? |
| 22:28.50 | NeoTron | Mecdemort: explain |
| 22:28.53 | NightHawkAtWork | define "broke" |
| 22:28.54 | cryogen | having mod access to forums is fun |
| 22:29.06 | cryogen | i just turned a guild flame thread into a guild love thread by creative use of the edit button |
| 22:29.10 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r50714 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/SharedMediaAdditionalFonts.toc: SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: Updating TOC. |
| 22:29.17 | kadrahil | cryogen: haha |
| 22:29.38 | cryogen | eg: "X: You are an idiot" become "X: I really like you" |
| 22:29.38 | Mecdemort | #showtooltip item:... is severely bugged |
| 22:29.48 | cryogen | s/become/became/ |
| 22:30.42 | NightHawkAtWork | once more, define "severely bugged" |
| 22:30.59 | JCinDE | it isn't bugged but it seems to be case sensitive now |
| 22:31.24 | Mecdemort | it's supposed to show the icon even if you dont have the item... it's now random whether or not it will show the item, and sometimes with or without the count |
| 22:31.56 | NightHawkAtWork | JCinDE: that was in the patch notes |
| 22:32.00 | JCinDE | ah that might be bugged |
| 22:32.03 | NightHawkAtWork | macro syntax is all case sensetive now. |
| 22:32.15 | JCinDE | guess I missed it |
| 22:32.31 | NightHawkAtWork | it was in the post in the ui forum, it may not have made it into the released patch notes, *shrug* |
| 22:32.49 | Mecdemort | all of my macros have identical case, so i dont think its that |
| 22:32.57 | kadrahil | i love how for hunters the helm slot on the armory now shows the ammo tooltip |
| 22:32.59 | kadrahil | that they're using |
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| 22:33.10 | kadrahil | for every hunter i've looked at |
| 22:33.47 | kadrahil | ok, not every hunter |
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| 22:34.57 | xyu | is STV a decent place to grind herbalism for 165ish ? |
| 22:36.41 | Xinhuan | JCinDE: it only shows the item's icon IF you have that item in your local cache |
| 22:36.55 | Xinhuan | since there was a patch today, your local cache is wiped by the patch |
| 22:36.58 | JCinDE | that makes sense |
| 22:37.09 | JCinDE | but I'm not the one who was bent about it. =) |
| 22:37.22 | Xinhuan | so i doubt its bugged at all |
| 22:37.30 | JCinDE | aye |
| 22:37.35 | Xinhuan | the macro should be fixed once he has the relevant item in his cache |
| 22:37.41 | DrWily | grrr, the updater is not allowing me to change my wow install dir again |
| 22:38.56 | DrWily | the other day it did that and I just uninstalled and reinstalled, that fixed it |
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| 22:38.58 | DrWily | not today tho |
| 22:41.06 | Kain___ | i had a Q about qaurtz... is it possible to have it always list a certain debuff on an enemy... for exampel if i get off scorch first on a target Quartz will give me a timer as to how long the scorch debuffs wears off and will count up as other mages scorch the target... however if someone else scorches before me i dont get the timer when i apply my scorch and thus it is less easy to check the duration til scorch wears off |
| 22:41.40 | ckknight | hrm, anyone know what wmo Black Temple uses? |
| 22:41.44 | ckknight | wrt instance maps |
| 22:42.44 | Xinhuan | ckknight: i don't, but it should be easy to guess? |
| 22:43.07 | ckknight | it's never easy |
| 22:43.27 | Xinhuan | why? did blizzard use obscure filenames? |
| 22:43.28 | Nandini | they all have GUID-like names i think, it's hard to know what is what |
| 22:43.29 | ckknight | RFC is OgrimmarLavaDungeon |
| 22:43.37 | ckknight | note the misspelling of Orgrimmar |
| 22:43.43 | Nandini | oh, let me check wowmapviewer, i think it has BT in it |
| 22:43.47 | Nandini | it will list the actual name |
| 22:43.52 | Mech0z | ssForget again what pvp site is it where you arena statistics? |
| 22:43.59 | Nandini | i thought you were talking about the minimap images |
| 22:44.15 | ckknight | wait, BlackTemple is it |
| 22:44.26 | Ellipsis | very difficult |
| 22:44.28 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 22:46.08 | Nandini | hmm in order to implement custom FullBar textures for my PitBull module, i will need to use one of the shared media libs so i can specify the texture list in the options |
| 22:46.54 | Nandini | PB iteself uses the new 2.0 library, is there anything special i need to know that makes it different from using the old one? |
| 22:47.14 | ckknight | no |
| 22:47.16 | ckknight | same API |
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| 22:47.28 | Nandini | excellent, thanks :) |
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| 22:47.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Nandini: no point in not using whichever one pitbull uses, as it'll be there anyway. :P |
| 22:48.08 | Nandini | yup my thoughts exactly |
| 22:48.30 | lprich | oooh, stabby stabs! |
| 22:48.32 | Nandini | i started making the list with the old SharedMediaLib then i realized I didn't even have it installed anymore |
| 22:49.14 | Nandini | i was gone for about a month and missed the introduction of rock and some of the newer libs it uses |
| 22:49.36 | vithos | wow, some of those fonts in SharedMediaAdditionalFonts lag my computer in the windows font viewer. like to the point that my mp3s stopped playing for a while |
| 22:49.57 | Nandini | yes, i just checked them out and promptly deleted them, thank god i didn't actually try and set one in-game |
| 22:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | ow |
| 22:50.40 | Wobin | hunter drawback =\ |
| 22:50.41 | NightHawkAtWork | ~lart Wobin |
| 22:50.41 | purl | pours gasoline all over Wobin, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 22:50.44 | Nandini | at least they are all freeware licensed unlike some of the ones included in ClearFont for example |
| 22:50.45 | Mecdemort | wow im so tired i'm seeing things... in game |
| 22:50.57 | Stanzilla2 | Mecdemort: gnomes? |
| 22:51.16 | LetheKai|PS | Quick question: What weapon spec for a raiding + PvP + 5-man Rogue? |
| 22:51.18 | NightHawkAtWork | oh, that reminds me, I wanted to see how some non-freeware fonts looked in game. |
| 22:51.59 | Nandini | if you own a legal copy of vista or office 2007, it's legal for you to use the non-freeware fonts in ClearFont2 |
| 22:52.25 | vithos | distribution is probably still illegal though :P |
| 22:52.44 | vithos | not that i care. |
| 22:52.47 | Xinhuan | (does microsoft care?) |
| 22:52.55 | Kirkburn | (no) |
| 22:53.12 | Xinhuan | so the issue is moot |
| 22:53.25 | Kirkburn | Moving swiftly on, is ClearFont still working fine? |
| 22:53.25 | vithos | microsoft pulled some installers for fonts off their downloads site |
| 22:53.31 | vithos | because linux people were using them |
| 22:53.34 | vithos | so, maybe. |
| 22:53.50 | Nandini | actually they did force down some site that had downloads for the new office 2007 fonts (which include Callibri) |
| 22:54.06 | Cyerie | Does anyone know if Cartographer will be adjusted so that you don't have to click the loot lists individually to display them? |
| 22:54.18 | Nandini | since they are licensed only as embeddable |
| 22:54.29 | Kirkburn | Yes, yes, we know, can we move on? :) |
| 22:54.42 | Nandini | that's a new development since i last spoke with you Kirkburn :) |
| 22:55.20 | Antiarc | LetheKai|PS: Combat swords or fists |
| 22:55.36 | ckknight | yay, I fixed the instance maps of Cartographer |
| 22:55.44 | Kirkburn | yay |
| 22:57.02 | ckknight | now my main conundrum now is that I don't want CartoAce to be able to use it |
| 22:57.28 | durcyn | relicense it. |
| 22:57.34 | durcyn | and enjoy the mess that ensues |
| 22:57.39 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with instance maps in the first place? |
| 22:57.43 | Nandini | do i need to bother listing LibSharedMedia-2.0 as an embed since my addon already has a dependency for PitBull which embeds it? |
| 22:57.49 | ckknight | Xinhuan: patch broke em |
| 22:57.56 | Xinhuan | i mean, how did it break |
| 22:58.01 | ckknight | durcyn: yea, I kinda want to avoid said mess |
| 22:58.10 | ckknight | Xinhuan: patch updated the textures for the outlands instances |
| 22:58.15 | ckknight | I also include Black Temple |
| 22:58.47 | Xinhuan | you could obfuscate your fix |
| 22:58.53 | Xinhuan | not very nice to do so though |
| 22:59.10 | ckknight | well, the fix itself is just added data |
| 22:59.12 | ckknight | not real code |
| 22:59.28 | ckknight | and obfuscation is bad karma |
| 22:59.55 | Speeddymon | ~seen pastamancer |
| 23:00.04 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3h 17m 59s, last said: 'svn propset svn:keywords'. |
| 23:00.05 | Polarina | ~seen Polarina |
| 23:00.06 | purl | polarina is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 36m 7s) #wowace (5h 36m 7s) #wowwiki (5h 36m 7s). Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Polarina'. |
| 23:00.10 | ckknight | alright, time to head home |
| 23:00.12 | Polarina | ~seen purl |
| 23:00.13 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (3d 9h 46m 15s) #botpark (3d 9h 46m 15s) #linuxfund (3d 9h 46m 15s) #wowi-lounge (3d 9h 46m 15s) #edev (3d 9h 46m 15s) #fossfund (3d 9h 46m 15s) #hosernet (3d 9h 46m 15s) #norganna (3d 9h 46m 15s) #ud (3d 9h 46m 15s) #dub (3d 9h 46m 15s) #teleconf (3d ... |
| 23:00.49 | Xinhuan | is there any procedure for updating another author's addon without his permission, if he's been like missing for 4 months? |
| 23:00.53 | Polarina | ~seen ChanServ |
| 23:00.54 | purl | Polarina: i haven't seen 'chanserv' |
| 23:01.08 | *** part/#wowace Cyerie (n=chatzill@c-71-207-179-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:01.10 | Polarina | purl: Orly? |
| 23:01.11 | purl | YARLY |
| 23:01.15 | Speeddymon | Xinhuan: just post a note on his thread and then commit the update if you have privs.. |
| 23:01.19 | Nandini | Xinhuan: if there's a forum thread for his addon, you might want to make a note there |
| 23:01.35 | Xinhuan | the addon i'm refering to is RatingBuster |
| 23:01.37 | Speeddymon | if not, and you plan to fully take over, make a thread |
| 23:01.42 | Xinhuan | and the last post by the author is 4 months ago |
| 23:01.48 | Polarina | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 23:01.49 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 167 messages. Is idling for 2h 53m 25s, last said: 'but align works :)'. |
| 23:02.18 | Speeddymon | ~keywords |
| 23:02.32 | Speeddymon | ~purl |
| 23:02.32 | purl | somebody said purl was emo |
| 23:02.37 | Speeddymon | grr |
| 23:02.47 | Matrix110 | ~blootbot |
| 23:02.47 | purl | it has been said that blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 23:02.50 | Xinhuan | i guess i might just update RatingBuster then, and post a note |
| 23:02.54 | Speeddymon | thx |
| 23:03.09 | Nandini | Xinhuan: it looks like several people have been making updates to it since his last post, not just for localization |
| 23:03.11 | Speeddymon | how do i get a list of keywords? |
| 23:03.14 | JCinDE | oh fun. I'm stuck in last night's raid that got ruined by server crashes. Can't leave the group. |
| 23:03.17 | Matrix110 | not at all:P |
| 23:03.19 | Matrix110 | i think |
| 23:03.24 | Matrix110 | you can define your own keywords |
| 23:03.26 | Xinhuan | Nandini: those updates appear to be ace2 library updates |
| 23:03.29 | Xinhuan | and not real updates |
| 23:03.46 | Matrix110 | purl, Speeddymon is asking you for Keywords |
| 23:03.47 | purl | okay, Matrix110 |
| 23:03.47 | Nandini | some were substantive, i see one here that changes display defaults |
| 23:03.53 | Matrix110 | ~Speeddymon |
| 23:03.54 | purl | from memory, speeddymon is asking you for Keywords |
| 23:03.54 | pastamancer | Cairenn: I can't seem to edit grid on wowi. I clicked on the edit link but it still looks like the view page |
| 23:04.01 | *** join/#wowace Ackis (n=blah@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 23:04.02 | Speeddymon | purl, what keywords do you know? |
| 23:04.03 | purl | ACTION keywords do you know to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 23:04.13 | Xinhuan | Nandini: Consider http://files.wowace.com/RatingBuster/changelogs/ |
| 23:04.16 | Matrix110 | purl, forget Speeddymon |
| 23:04.16 | purl | i forgot speeddymon, Matrix110 |
| 23:04.22 | Xinhuan | there are a total of 4 changelogs in there |
| 23:04.31 | Xinhuan | which means there have only been 4 commits to it |
| 23:04.34 | Xinhuan | since June |
| 23:04.46 | Matrix110 | ~url |
| 23:04.47 | purl | i guess url is (Universal Resource Locator) This is what is used to give Web addresses for HTML, VRML, WAV and other files. It simply contains the Internet name of the machine containing the data and the path to the file. Much like the UNC, except specifically for the Internet. The address also includes what protocol should be used. |
| 23:04.57 | Speeddymon | purl, keywords? |
| 23:05.01 | Cairenn | pastamancer: odd, it comes up fine for me |
| 23:05.07 | Matrix110 | he cant give you keywords.... |
| 23:05.10 | Speeddymon | grr |
| 23:05.11 | Matrix110 | he has thousands of them |
| 23:05.17 | Nandini | it looks like rabbit and kilrogg have made changes, i don't see why you shouldn't, just make a note in its forum post |
| 23:05.19 | Cairenn | I'll poke dolby |
| 23:05.20 | pastamancer | Cairenn: odd, I'll try another browser |
| 23:05.21 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys |
| 23:05.30 | Speeddymon | pastamancer!! |
| 23:05.33 | Wobin | <vithos> microsoft pulled some installers for fonts off their downloads site |
| 23:05.34 | Wobin | >< |
| 23:05.37 | Cairenn | what browser are you using pastamancer? |
| 23:05.39 | Xinhuan | alright, maybe i'll do it tonight |
| 23:06.01 | pastamancer | Cairenn: firefox 2.something with noscript |
| 23:06.03 | Ackis | i've sent CK a pm on the forums and got no response :P... is there an issue if i fix/add to libraries like babel/crayon/etc? |
| 23:06.08 | Nandini | or if it's not a noticeable change, maybe don't post about it, people might assume you're taking it over :) |
| 23:06.10 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.117.176) |
| 23:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 23:06.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i might have found the cause for the threat-1.0 bug |
| 23:06.22 | Speeddymon | pastamancer: did you ever take a look at why cooldowntimers2 has localizations in both the root of the addon and the locale folder? |
| 23:06.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't confirm it fixed yet tho |
| 23:06.29 | pastamancer | Cairenn: no dice in safari either |
| 23:06.38 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 23:06.39 | Speeddymon | ackis: depends on the fix.. if it adds features, yes there is an issue.. if it is just a bugfix, no |
| 23:06.45 | Cairenn | pastamancer: safari? you're on a mac? |
| 23:06.49 | Xinhuan | Nandini: well because i actually use statlogiclib, i've actually read through and know mostly how ratingbuster works |
| 23:06.50 | pastamancer | Cairenn: ya |
| 23:07.07 | Xinhuan | i've got a pretty large list of things it doesn't do correctly |
| 23:07.08 | Ackis | Speeddy: ok, so for example adding blue to crayon = bad, whereas fixing a typo/adding local to babel = ok? |
| 23:07.18 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 23:07.21 | Cairenn | that's the second time in a few days that someone has been having various problems on the site when using mac, not sure if it's related or not - I'll poke dolby |
| 23:07.25 | Xinhuan | some of which i've posted in RatingBuster's thread a month ago |
| 23:07.26 | pastamancer | Speeddymon: I recall looking at it, I don't think I ever cleaned things up |
| 23:07.31 | Xinhuan | or a few weeks ago |
| 23:07.31 | Speeddymon | unless crayon's author is inactive for a large amount of time |
| 23:07.32 | Nandini | additions to babel are actually encouraged i believe as long as they are tested to be accurate |
| 23:07.38 | pastamancer | Cairenn: I guess I can try IE via citrix since I'm still at work |
| 23:07.51 | Nandini | s/babel/babble |
| 23:08.01 | Speeddymon | pastamancer: any way you could fix it or is it some big ordeal you would have to go thru to clean it up? |
| 23:08.03 | Antiarc | The biggest thing about babble changes is that you need to make sure you don't break the encoding |
| 23:08.19 | Speeddymon | Nandini: add a slash to the end.. |
| 23:08.21 | Nandini | yup if it's in unicode make sure you edit it in a unicode editor |
| 23:08.24 | pastamancer | Speeddymon: it's more on the complicated end of things |
| 23:08.26 | Nandini | ty speeddy :) |
| 23:08.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: it might have been a parser issue after all |
| 23:08.31 | Speeddymon | pastamancer: damn ok |
| 23:08.41 | Xinhuan | Notepad++ should edit them fine |
| 23:08.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll know for sure tomorrow earliest, but i'll be able to confirm if the no threat gone on death bug is gone |
| 23:09.01 | Speeddymon | Xinhuan: yea i've never broken an encoding while using notepad++ |
| 23:09.07 | Stanzilla2 | sag_ich_nicht: which parser versions do you use? |
| 23:09.08 | Cairenn | pastamancer: if it does happen to work for you on the windows machine, let me know |
| 23:09.13 | Nandini | even the built-in notepad in xp and vista should be fine as long as you make sure to specify unicode encoding when you save it |
| 23:09.17 | pastamancer | Speeddymon: basically, when the files script is running 'svn update', it's not always removing deleted files and I can't figure out why |
| 23:09.37 | Speeddymon | hmm.. what language? perl or bash? |
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| 23:09.48 | Cairenn | pastamancer: I've copied our conversation over into the staff channel so dolby will see it when he is around |
| 23:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: might have steamed from ParserLib, Parser-3.0 and LibParser-4.0 all being there and ONE of the compatibility layers fucking up, i deleted anything besides LibParser-4.0 for now(WTB way of stopping WAU from pulling non-needed deps) |
| 23:10.33 | Antiarc | Interesting. Good catch |
| 23:10.40 | Antiarc | I'll see if I can check that out |
| 23:10.40 | durcyn | sag_ich_nicht: add an empty folder with .svn in it |
| 23:10.51 | Speeddymon | WTB same that sag_ich_nicht W's TB |
| 23:10.51 | sag_ich_nicht | durcyn: mhm true enough |
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| 23:11.37 | pastamancer | Cairenn: I think I found the problem... if I log in on the editfile.php page, it never updates |
| 23:12.00 | Cairenn | okay, passed that info along as well, so he can look into it |
| 23:12.04 | pastamancer | Cairenn: but if I navigate away and then come back via the view page and then click edit it works |
| 23:12.20 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:12.21 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 23:12.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc sorry |
| 23:12.24 | sag_ich_nicht | can't confirm |
| 23:12.31 | pastamancer | Speeddymon: python |
| 23:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | death does not wipe the threat |
| 23:12.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 23:12.49 | Cairenn | pastamancer: thanks for the info, we'll see what dolby can find to fix it |
| 23:12.50 | sag_ich_nicht | it's frozen there at 211 tps and 11.2k aggro |
| 23:12.51 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 23:12.51 | Antiarc | hm. Looks like I may be in San Jose next weekend |
| 23:13.15 | Xinhuan | i just read the latest bug on Omen's thread about not seeing each other's threat if > 30 yards away |
| 23:13.16 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:13.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: should death or should spirit release reset threat? |
| 23:13.41 | Antiarc | Both |
| 23:13.42 | the-golem | Dolby is cool :-) |
| 23:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: well it doesn't reset for me here >.> |
| 23:14.00 | Cairenn | dolby is the man, but he hates it when I say that |
| 23:14.05 | the-golem | lol |
| 23:14.06 | sag_ich_nicht | at least not on death |
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| 23:14.31 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm didn't either |
| 23:14.59 | the-golem | ta-ta Cairenn ;-) |
| 23:15.08 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:15.53 | Xinhuan | hi ckknight, you reach home in 15 minutes? o_O |
| 23:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: debugging command for threat plz >.> |
| 23:16.11 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea |
| 23:16.21 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.37 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you have a debugging mode for libparser-4.0?` |
| 23:16.58 | ckknight | no |
| 23:17.03 | ckknight | it's not needed |
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| 23:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | well that kind of smells. |
| 23:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: why is that |
| 23:17.28 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: Rock("LibParser-4.0"):AddParserListener({}, function(info) Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(info) end) |
| 23:17.28 | ckknight | tada |
| 23:17.30 | ckknight | debug mode |
| 23:17.45 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50715 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_Modules/modules/CopyChat.lua): Prat: Better implementation of making SELECTED_CHAT_FRAME valid during the SetItemRef() call |
| 23:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: where will that be output to >.> (i'm not familiar with the workings of LibRockConsole-1.0 :P) |
| 23:18.49 | sag_ich_nicht | aaaaaaaaaaaaaand WoW alt+tab crash |
| 23:18.50 | ckknight | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 23:18.50 | sag_ich_nicht | hate it. |
| 23:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | kk |
| 23:19.11 | sag_ich_nicht | thx |
| 23:19.36 | yssaril | ckknight: ever gonna add custom channel support to RockComm? |
| 23:19.39 | ckknight | no |
| 23:19.42 | ckknight | I already said no |
| 23:19.46 | yssaril | ./cry |
| 23:19.53 | ckknight | it'd bloat the code unnecessarily and cause extra complications |
| 23:19.55 | ckknight | you don't need it |
| 23:19.59 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf would you want that, everything you want can be done with the whisper function anyway |
| 23:20.11 | ckknight | whisper, guild, and group |
| 23:20.15 | ckknight | that's all you really need |
| 23:20.24 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:20.29 | sag_ich_nicht | if group=raid then yes. |
| 23:20.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (and BG) |
| 23:20.33 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50716 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 23:20.33 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:20.34 | CIA-12 | - Fix for night elf/blood elf capitalization |
| 23:20.45 | Ellipsis | if he meant party he'd have said party :P |
| 23:20.51 | yssaril | what if you want to send stuff between 2 guilds and dont want to spam every guildy |
| 23:21.00 | Ellipsis | then you're weird |
| 23:21.09 | Ellipsis | and can do your own handling of that |
| 23:21.11 | yssaril | <--- call me wierd :) |
| 23:21.30 | Megalon | you spam one guildy |
| 23:21.33 | Xinhuan | that is a extremely rare situation |
| 23:21.36 | Megalon | and he spams the guildchannel? |
| 23:21.37 | Megalon | :x |
| 23:21.39 | Xinhuan | and shouldn't be in a library code |
| 23:21.47 | yssaril | kk |
| 23:21.51 | Xinhuan | for something that only 1 addon will ever use |
| 23:22.18 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r50717 10Prat/WIM2/ (16 files): Prat: IDK what happened to my orignal WIM stuff - but i wrote it again for some reason |
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| 23:22.49 | Stanzilla2 | sylvanaar: what will that prat/wim thing be? |
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| 23:23.00 | sylvanaar | just like dreamchat |
| 23:23.11 | sb | sylvanaar: already usable? |
| 23:23.14 | sb | wim rocks :o |
| 23:23.18 | Stanzilla2 | like chatrooms? |
| 23:23.20 | sb | prat support would be <3 |
| 23:23.23 | Stanzilla2 | for certain channels? |
| 23:23.26 | sylvanaar | the author is being a brat |
| 23:23.27 | sb | wim = wow instant messenger |
| 23:23.31 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: is itemlinking in custom chat channels default on or off in prat? |
| 23:23.33 | Stanzilla2 | I know |
| 23:23.34 | sb | 1 window / whisper |
| 23:23.35 | Stanzilla2 | I use it |
| 23:23.39 | sb | ah |
| 23:23.40 | sb | :) |
| 23:23.43 | sylvanaar | yeah its usable |
| 23:24.07 | sylvanaar | http://www.wimaddon.com/forums/index.php?topic=189.0 |
| 23:24.12 | sylvanaar | there was my post |
| 23:25.14 | sb | hm lol :o |
| 23:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:25.36 | sag_ich_nicht | found a bug in blizzards combatlog |
| 23:25.51 | sag_ich_nicht | reapplying a seal while it's active doesn't put anything in the combatlog |
| 23:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | that's dumb. |
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| 23:26.16 | NightHawkAtWork | that's a known issue |
| 23:26.51 | NightHawkAtWork | it's been like that forever. refreshing a buff/debuff doesn't produce a combat log event like you would expect. |
| 23:26.59 | sylvanaar | wim is good for managing conversations, but prat has better text handling - so combined they make a good pair |
| 23:27.04 | Antiarc | Which is why sunder armor + threat is a bitch and a half |
| 23:27.18 | Xinhuan | probably because updating the "time left" on the buff is far more efficient |
| 23:27.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: indeed. |
| 23:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:27.45 | NightHawkAtWork | well, with buffs it's not an issue, but with debufs like sunder, it's a pain to say "okay, did this sunder ACTUALLY land?" |
| 23:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: Parser registers death fine, but threat-1.0 doesn't for some reason |
| 23:28.00 | Antiarc | Hmm. |
| 23:28.12 | Xinhuan | what if 2 warriors land a sunder at the same time |
| 23:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | at least i'm not seeing anything related in the threat debug output |
| 23:28.28 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 23:29.02 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: There may not be debug messages for that |
| 23:29.36 | sylvanaar | sb i even have the copychat right click copy working on the wim frames |
| 23:29.38 | Pkekyo | cookies? |
| 23:29.40 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: the first one generates the proper combat log messages, the second one won't. Though I have no idea how that influences the buff timers. :P |
| 23:29.41 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Threat handles sunder by watching for a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCESSFUL, starting a transaction with the appropriate amount of threat, and then committing the transaction after a certain period of no miss/parry/block/dodge message |
| 23:29.55 | sb | sylvanaar: branches only? |
| 23:30.07 | Xinhuan | how much time is "a certain time period"? |
| 23:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: well that's great, but omen is still showing my threat at 11.4k and doesn't reset it |
| 23:30.23 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe it resets it once i'm aliev |
| 23:30.25 | sag_ich_nicht | *alive |
| 23:30.31 | Xinhuan | 1.5 seconds because that's the global cooldown? |
| 23:30.32 | sylvanaar | sb, yes unless i fork his addon |
| 23:30.44 | Cyerie | Does anyone know if Cartographer will be adjusted so that you don't have to click the loot lists individually to display them? |
| 23:30.45 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Uhh....let me check |
| 23:31.20 | sylvanaar | sb you just need wim.lua |
| 23:31.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: for everyone but druids in forms and rogues, yes |
| 23:31.26 | sag_ich_nicht | they have 1 sec |
| 23:31.33 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: 0.5 sec + lag time, or until next successful spellcast |
| 23:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (cat form that is, dunno bout bear) |
| 23:31.52 | Xinhuan | sounds reasonable then, unless the user is terribly lagged |
| 23:32.15 | sb | sylvanaar: wim.lua for prat + prat latest sylvanaar branch? |
| 23:32.20 | sylvanaar | sb you have to have the version of wim he released today |
| 23:32.30 | sylvanaar | sb no prat on the trunk |
| 23:32.33 | sb | ah okay |
| 23:32.38 | sylvanaar | sb pratplugin-1.0 also |
| 23:32.57 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50718 10LibCrayon-3.0/ (. LibCrayon-3.0.lua): |
| 23:32.57 | CIA-12 | LibCrayon-3.0: |
| 23:32.57 | CIA-12 | - Added the color blue |
| 23:33.27 | sylvanaar | sb wim still pops up my who window every time i get a tell |
| 23:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 23:33.36 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't reset |
| 23:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | let's see what happens if i pull now |
| 23:34.09 | sylvanaar | sb does it do that to you? |
| 23:34.22 | sb | hmm wim w/o prat? |
| 23:34.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahahaha |
| 23:34.26 | sb | plain wim? |
| 23:34.27 | sb | no :o |
| 23:34.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc it starts adding to the hold value again |
| 23:34.41 | sylvanaar | sb the latest version |
| 23:34.46 | Xinhuan | i don't think Threat-1.0 sets threat to 0 on death, but rather, sets threat to 0 on exiting combat? dying should bring you out of combat |
| 23:34.50 | sb | *install* |
| 23:35.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: it didn't reset on going out of combat no either |
| 23:35.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: name of the table that stores threat values so i can dump it? |
| 23:35.34 | Xinhuan | i remember seeing Threat-1.0 has a function for REGEN_ENABLED |
| 23:35.37 | Xinhuan | that resets threat to 0 |
| 23:35.38 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.45 | Antiarc | It does, as well as death, I believe. |
| 23:35.51 | Xinhuan | or am i mistaken? |
| 23:35.58 | sb | sylvanaar: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/WIM2/WIM.lua - yes? |
| 23:35.58 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50719 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - add in fixes for various maps. |
| 23:36.08 | Antiarc | Actually, yes, it multiplies your threat by 0 if you are dead. |
| 23:36.25 | sylvanaar | sb yeah |
| 23:36.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/74770 |
| 23:36.50 | sag_ich_nicht | this is what the table looks like atm :X |
| 23:36.57 | sylvanaar | sb have to apply it to wim 2.2.28 |
| 23:37.37 | sb | yup okay |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50720 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc): |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-12 | - some changes to the way auras are tracked |
| 23:38.24 | sag_ich_nicht | 16249 is obviously the threat value that doesn't get reset, the question is why, and why it does work after a reloadui and breaks after zoning. |
| 23:38.36 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 23:39.18 | sb | sylvanaar: pratplugin trunk? |
| 23:39.18 | sag_ich_nicht | something must be breaking the threat reset function, but what ffs |
| 23:39.25 | sylvanaar | sb yeah |
| 23:39.26 | Xinhuan | i believe it has to do with the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event |
| 23:39.38 | sag_ich_nicht | we tested that |
| 23:39.43 | NivFreak | WWS needs to use libthreat and show me TPS over time :) |
| 23:39.59 | sag_ich_nicht | artificially sending P_E_W (lol) to threat-1.0 doesn't fix the problem |
| 23:40.25 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: can you check the return values of IsInInstance() in a PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event? |
| 23:40.37 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm? |
| 23:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: how do you mean that? :X |
| 23:40.54 | sag_ich_nicht | check for IsInInstance() on P_E_W? |
| 23:40.57 | Xinhuan | threat-1.0 uses it to determine if it should be enabled or disabled |
| 23:41.05 | Xinhuan | on P_E_W |
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| 23:41.17 | Antiarc | Well, threat is also enabled if you're in a group |
| 23:41.25 | Antiarc | so that's not really an issue here |
| 23:41.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it shouldn't do that, that causes intialisation problems because blizzard is stupid, NECB had this issue for a long time |
| 23:41.52 | Xinhuan | well i'm guessing this could be an issue |
| 23:42.00 | Xinhuan | which is why i'm saying to test it out or something |
| 23:42.15 | sag_ich_nicht | question is why does the threat MEASURING work |
| 23:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | but not the RESET |
| 23:42.24 | Xinhuan | no other reason i can think of why a /rl will fix something, while zoning breaks it |
| 23:42.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: yeah, but why is the reset broken? i mean threat-1.0 wouldn't do anything if it were disabled |
| 23:43.05 | Xinhuan | what exactly is broken? |
| 23:43.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i zone into the instance |
| 23:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | pull mobs |
| 23:43.23 | sag_ich_nicht | create aggro |
| 23:43.24 | sag_ich_nicht | die |
| 23:43.27 | sag_ich_nicht | aggro doesn't reset. |
| 23:43.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i go back |
| 23:43.31 | sag_ich_nicht | rez |
| 23:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | pull mobs |
| 23:43.35 | sag_ich_nicht | run out |
| 23:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | aggro doesn't reset |
| 23:43.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i get out of combat |
| 23:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | aggro doesn't reset |
| 23:43.53 | Xinhuan | aggro as in omen shows you with threat > 0 ? |
| 23:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 23:44.17 | sag_ich_nicht | as in the tabledump shows me with > 0 threat |
| 23:44.53 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. about that IsInInstance()/P_E_W thing, basicially IsInInstance() is a laggy whore and doesn't work properly even after P_E_W fires until a few moments later |
| 23:45.51 | sag_ich_nicht | NECB used to not-detect that the player is in an instance because of this |
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| 23:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i think what he does now is compare the location name to a list of instance names to get correct values all the time |
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| 23:46.54 | Xinhuan | well i see Threat-1.0 using IsInInstance() on PEW |
| 23:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | bad antiarc, no cookie |
| 23:47.42 | sag_ich_nicht | but then shouldn't threat-1.0 not work at all? |
| 23:47.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and not just calc threat but not reset it? |
| 23:47.53 | Xinhuan | check line 670, technically, i don't really see it affecting anything |
| 23:48.12 | Xinhuan | something else probably |
| 23:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:49.34 | Xinhuan | what you can do is modify ThreatLib:_clearAllThreat(), and uncomment the -- self:Debug("Clearing ALL threat!") |
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| 23:49.46 | Xinhuan | and see if the function runs at all |
| 23:49.50 | sag_ich_nicht | line? |
| 23:49.54 | Xinhuan | 1193 |
| 23:50.47 | Xinhuan | ThreatLib:_clearAllThreat() is supposed to execute on exiting combat |
| 23:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | probably doesn't for me. |
| 23:51.06 | Xinhuan | which you can see in line 701 on P_REGEN_ENABLED() |
| 23:51.08 | sylvanaar | sb do you see the who window pop up? |
| 23:51.10 | Antiarc | That's just a display clear |
| 23:51.25 | Antiarc | He needs to modify the appropriate methods in the ClassModuleCore if he wants the actual threat calc resets |
| 23:51.46 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 23:52.03 | Funkeh` | ulic: some dude over at the dbm site has basically completely ripped all your little wigs work for it :) |
| 23:52.26 | Funkeh` | Didn't even change most of the warnings |
| 23:53.04 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`: is that possible for using copyright to ask them to remove the addon? ;p |
| 23:53.13 | sb | hmmm |
| 23:53.13 | Funkeh` | Doubt it |
| 23:53.20 | sb | sylvanaar: *testing* |
| 23:53.30 | Funkeh` | DBM does it for BW all the time don't think theres much we can do tbh |
| 23:53.32 | sb | sylvanaar: no |
| 23:53.43 | Xinhuan | since most copyright laws deal with the "essence" of the content being stolen |
| 23:53.51 | ulic | Funkeh`: it's to be expected :( |
| 23:53.55 | sylvanaar | sb must be calltoarms' interfering |
| 23:54.29 | Antiarc | Just register a complaint that it's ripped |
| 23:54.42 | Antiarc | It won't get it changed, but if DBM gets a reputation as a derivative mod, people will go to the source |
| 23:55.18 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: Not really, DBM has been doing it for voer a year now |
| 23:55.28 | Funkeh` | People jsut don't care |
| 23:55.31 | Kemayo | It was sad -- I heard my wife's guildmates talking about how they felt DBM's timers were more accurate. |
| 23:56.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i am going to find this son of a bitch now |
| 23:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: re: carto's instance maps. You don't have to worry about keeping it from being implemented in CartoAce. Ammo fixed them in both Cartographer and CartoAce this morning >8p |
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| 23:57.05 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I made a recent fix which fixes what Ammo did |
| 23:57.17 | ckknight | to Cartographer, at least |
| 23:57.19 | Kemayo | (zing?) |
| 23:57.40 | Funkeh` | ulic: http://www.deadlybossmods.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=805#805 |
| 23:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 23:59.19 | hyperChipmunk | ah, he probably only confirmed it working in cartoace then; either way, you don't have to worry |
| 23:59.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc the functions for threat reset don't get run |
| 23:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | at all. |
| 23:59.35 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.51 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: Trace up the call stack and add debug messages to find out where it fails |
