IRC log for #wowace on 20070812

00:00.10Thraedre^: A hidden tooltip. Look at the addon IsBuffActive on curses
00:00.12ArrowmasterGratuity-2.0
00:00.13CryectNo, its not that bad but still its slower than calling a function for a number
00:00.19ThraeIt's a very simple example of how to scan tooltips
00:00.26dre^there isn't a function for scanning tooltips either, eh...
00:00.31ThraeCryect: Depends on how its done internally, really
00:00.34CryectSure there is dre
00:00.54Arrowmasterif you have no clue what your doing for trying to scan the tooltip then use Gratuity-2.0
00:01.00Thraedre^: A tooltip is just made up of fontstrings, which are made up of text
00:01.23dre^ya I just don't see the functions for interacting with tooltips
00:01.29dre^guess I'll look at other mods
00:01.33ThraeYou just grab the text from the line you want and use the very simple pattern "(%d+)" and bingo
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00:01.57Arrowmasterbut you have to grab just about every line till you find what your looking for
00:01.59Thraedre^: Like I said, IsBuffActive is like 10 lines of non-optimized code
00:02.06Arrowmasterseriously if you have no clue what your doing just use Gratuity-2.0
00:02.18CryectWell cooldowns are always line 2 right aren't they or something?
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00:02.21dre^IsBuffActive sounds like nothing to do with what I want... but I'll look anyway
00:02.26Arrowmasterno theyre not always line 2
00:02.31Arrowmasteri dont think
00:02.34ThraeArrowmaster: Not in his case, since he just wants cooldowns, and they're almost always line 2 or line 3
00:02.46Thraescan line 2...no go...scan line 3
00:02.47CryectPretty sure its fixed unless you have another addon changing it
00:03.08dre^is IsBuffActive part of the wow api, or third party?
00:03.11CryectEither way its simple
00:03.19Arrowmasterthird party
00:03.42dre^I'm fine with using as much ace stuff as I need... haven't looked at other sets of libs
00:03.43Thraedre^: It's just an addon, and it scans tooltips for information on whether a buff is active. A tooltip is a tooltip, you can apply the exact same principle to scanning spellbook tooltips.
00:03.59Thraedre^: It's not an API, I'm just showing it to you for example code
00:04.09ThraeMaking a hidden tooltip and scanning it is relatively easy
00:04.11dre^gotcha
00:04.23Cryectif you don't know how to do something the best thing to do is look at someone else code since its all open source
00:04.25dre^I don't want to make hidden tooltips...
00:04.31Cryectyou have to
00:04.41dre^ok
00:04.59CIA-1403archarodim * r46312 10Decursive/Dcr_Events.lua:
00:04.59CIA-14Decursive:
00:04.59CIA-14- Pet appearance/disappearance events were not triggering an update of the number of MUFs displayed.
00:04.59dre^so I ask for a tooltip for a specified slot id, then parse the results?
00:05.01Cryectbe glad you don't have to define an xml file with the hidden tooltip anymore at least
00:05.10Arrowmasterlooking at hourglass, it scans the spellbook tooltips for the cooldown length and uses GetSpellCooldown on SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN
00:05.16Thraedre^: If you want to do it entirely in Lua (IsBuffActive uses XML to create the tooltip), look at ThraeAddons in wowinterface.com
00:06.03ThraeArrowmaster: Hmmm, I guess that's for delays caused by enemy spells
00:06.10wunderboobany help me with prat2?
00:06.22wunderboobi zone and the chat goes back to general
00:06.32wunderbooband i have the lowdown turn off
00:07.03Arrowmasterdre^: what exactly are you tring to do anyway? i came into the conversation quite late
00:07.04dre^thanks thrae :)
00:07.33dre^Arrowmaster: I'm making a simple indicator of spell cooldowns of other party members. Going to use the addon chat channel to do message passing about cooldown times and such
00:07.49dre^I realize that necb does this, but it also does a lot of other things I don't want
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00:08.09dre^it all just seems rediculously complex, but I'm beginning to understand why...
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00:08.27LysistrataHi
00:08.34CIA-1403nargiddley * r46313 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-Options.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Clean up some global namespace pollution + fix for nil errors
00:08.53Arrowmasterah for that you could just hardcode all the cooldown times in your addon and use the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events to start the timers when your party members spells finish casting
00:08.55Thraedre^: If you think what you're trying to do is ridiculously complex, then making a framework like Ace2 is impossibly complex.
00:09.06LysistrataErhm just wanted to know if there is any "offical" way to enter a request or another kind of feedback for a specific mod.
00:09.20ThraeLysistrata: Use Trac
00:09.31Arrowmasterif your doing tooltip scaning and other such stuff then it sounds like your addon would have to be run by every partymember
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00:09.50LysistrataThansk Thrae
00:09.57Arrowmasteris trac fixed yet?
00:10.08dre^Thrae: which package should I get? ThraeFuncs? TinyTip?
00:10.11LysistrataI guess I'll need to register for trac?
00:10.19Thraedre^: Oops yeah I meant ThraeFuncs
00:10.20wunderboobhow do i make it so prat2 dont change my chat view to general when i zone to a place?
00:10.22dre^k thx
00:10.37Funkeh`Nargiddley: can you remove the waterfall requirement that was recently added
00:10.46wunderboobi have chat showing party talk and then when i fly over places it change it back to general always
00:10.48ThraeNone of ThraeFuncs really work anymore, hehe
00:10.58ThraeWell except the tooltip scanning code
00:12.08NargiddleyFunkeh`, the new bag/category config uses waterfall
00:12.29baer_good night
00:12.36Funkeh`Nargiddley: then make the config optional if waterfall is loaded
00:13.53NargiddleyFunkeh`, why is loading waterfall a problem ?
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00:14.55Funkeh`Nargiddley: I don't like or use it
00:15.14Funkeh`Nargiddley: I'm satisfied with dewdrop I don't want or need waterfall
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00:15.37NargiddleyFunkeh`, there is no dewdrop equivalent for the edit window
00:15.49ThraeNargiddley: "Edit Window"?
00:15.49Funkeh`I'm not bothered
00:15.58Funkeh`The exisiting functionality is what I want and use
00:16.10ThraeFunkeh`: Just wait until you find an addon that has like 5 nested levels of options ;)
00:16.17NargiddleyThrae, edit bags and categories
00:16.18LysistrataHmmm besides the possibilitie of just giving a Feature Request for PitBull does anybody know of an Addon which enables/disables the standard Pet Happines Icon?
00:16.28Funkeh`Thrae: I hardly ever even open a baggins config option
00:16.44Funkeh`Thrae: I just want a basic sorted all in one bag but that seems to be hard to find
00:16.48ThraeNargiddley: Oh, I thought you were talking Waterfall vs Dewdrop
00:17.19ThraeFunkeh`: Sorting is a very slow process no matter how you do it. Best to just use MrPlow + your favorite all-in-one bag addon
00:17.41Funkeh`Thrae: I like baggins because it doesn't actually do any item moving, just displaying
00:17.58ThraeFunkeh`: Right. Auto-sorting is very, very evil.
00:17.58Nargiddleyhm, how does :HasInstance handle not loaded but present libraries ?
00:18.38ckknightit'll load em and return true
00:18.52Nargiddleyk
00:19.01Thraehttp://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Best_of_Conservapedia
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00:24.57wunderboobi search on wow forum and foun a post
00:25.09wunderboobit says to use chatframe1:show
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00:25.23wunderboobi try this in the game and same thing happen
00:25.40wunderboobi zone iin wow and the prat2 chat goes back to general
00:26.16Arrowmasteryou mean the "General" tab aka chatframe1 is ontop?
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00:27.13wunderboobi think so yeah
00:27.21Arrowmasterand you dont want it to do that?
00:27.22wunderboobi try to use it like it say
00:27.33wunderboobit say to make a chat come back that goes away
00:27.42wunderboobi type /script chatframe#:show()
00:27.46wunderbooband with ht same one
00:27.59wunderboobi type /script chatframe#:hide() for the one i want to hide
00:28.05wunderboobi put that on a button
00:28.09wunderboobthose two in one button
00:28.16wunderboobbut when i zone in wow like flying over many place
00:28.22wunderboobit keep going back to general
00:28.26wunderbooband i keep have to hit button
00:28.34wunderboobi use prat2
00:28.45Arrowmastertheres an option in prat to force first chat tab or something
00:28.51Arrowmasteri think its in the chatframes module
00:28.59wunderboobyeah
00:29.08wunderboobwhat if i turn that off already
00:29.18wunderboobi turn that off, the one you say
00:30.02Arrowmasterhiding and showing of frames doesnt save between sessions unless your using a mod to hide them and save them as hidden
00:30.16wunderboobi dont logoff though
00:30.22wunderboobthis hppen just walking around
00:30.27CIA-1403cryect * r46314 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua parse.lua): Relog - Log stays in place now if a the very bottom of the table
00:30.38wunderbooblike when i go on my mage and i walk from mage area to auction
00:30.47Arrowmasterdoes it say hidden when not using prat?
00:30.49wunderboobit change my chat to general
00:31.01wunderboobyeah because then the chat button are on
00:31.09wunderboobthe one that i make that say general, party
00:31.16wunderboobi click on those tab and they stay fine
00:31.36wunderboobbut when i hide those tab with prat2 they go away and i use this button like the man on wow forum say
00:31.51wunderboobthe one i make for /script
00:31.59LysistrataWhats the best Way to findout the name of a certain Frame?
00:32.07LysistrataA standard one.
00:32.25ArrowmasterLysistrata: mouseover and /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
00:32.33Arrowmasteror use devtools
00:32.55LysistrataOk, Thanks ^^
00:33.09Arrowmasterwunderboob: if you want to use those macros then youll probably have to disable prat
00:33.23CIA-1403nargiddley * r46315 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-Options.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Waterfall is now optional again, the Bag/Category editor will be disabled if waterfall is not present
00:33.25wunderboobbut prat2 is one i like
00:33.45wunderboobi dont lie to have only one chat though
00:33.49wunderboobit get too much in one
00:34.22Arrowmastercant you just use the different tabs if you dont want to see everything at once?
00:34.31wunderboobi have them hide though
00:34.39NargiddleyFunkeh`, there
00:35.01LysistrataThe Tabs are hidden anyway or? So just as soon as you mouseover the chat you'll slighty seem 'em shouldn't be that bad IMO
00:35.03Funkeh`Nargiddley: thanks
00:35.04wunderboobif they show it make to much mess
00:35.55wunderboobi use prat2 and make my raid show up above chat
00:36.01wunderboobbut if tab are on then it cover them
00:36.06wunderboobonly the bottom two man
00:36.42wunderboobcan i make more /script to use with it?
00:37.03wunderboobso it know not to make it change to general?
00:38.23sbCryect: thank you :)
00:38.33sbCryect: and some 'clear' function? *hides* :p
00:40.16LysistrataErrr do I need to create a .lua/.toc etc. in order to make a standard frame movable? Isn't it possible by just using /script?
00:40.29CIA-1403cryect * r46316 10Relog/parse.lua: Relog - Fixes an off by one error with retrieving logs
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00:50.25Grum_mm how is 'embeds.xml' different than just naming whatever you 'embed' in your .toc? :)
00:51.40Nargiddleydoesnt cause an error in framexml.log when the file doesnt exist, and is a way to define which file are embeds for when an updater installs without externals
00:52.25Grum_mm k
00:52.39Grum_anyone used Graph-2.0 before? ;)
00:53.51Grum_mmm 1.0 even
00:54.04ccKepplayed a bit with it
00:54.44Grum_what would be the best way to draw ontop of the Cartographer map-frame?
00:55.07Grum_create 'yet another frame' over it and draw onto that one?
00:55.54kergothGrum_, gonna plot routes?
00:56.03Grum_yup
00:56.10kergoththatd be excellent
00:56.14Grum_yup ;D
00:56.19kergothlike the FollowMe test addon, but as a cart module?
00:56.29Grum_i dont know followme :/
00:56.35kergothcheck it out
00:56.44Grum_i still need a screenshot of that ;D
00:56.47kergothlittle test addon on the svn that uses graphlib to record a route you take
00:56.49kergothand draw it
00:57.01kergothjust doesnt overlay onto cart based on where it was recorded from
00:57.30Grum_i have simply no idea how the 'graphics' system works in wow
00:57.41kergoththat makes two of us
00:58.01Grum_i know there are multiple layers and frames with childframes
00:58.35Grum_so i probably have to either hook myself into the cartographer frame
00:58.59Grum_or create something which lays ontop of it .. orso
01:00.05ccKepgraph-1.0 lets you define a parent frame to draw on, doesn't it?
01:00.21ccKephttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Graph-1.0
01:00.27ccKepCreateGraph functions all got parent parameter
01:00.47Grum_i assume i'll need to use: :DrawLine(C, sx, sy, ex, ey, w, color, layer)
01:01.04ccKepthink so
01:01.07Grum_mmm or :CreateGraphLine
01:01.59kergothi dont know a great deal about it, but i'd expect the key would be just setting up the graph's coordinates system to match the world map's coordinates system.
01:02.12kergothso the route is layed in the correct spot
01:03.19kergothmeh, i need to decide whether to try to keep doing pvp with my existing rogue, even though most of his gear has +hit and is pve oriented.. or level a new rogue to do pvp, or just pvp with my bm hunter and settle for that
01:04.18Wobinramp up your agi and go survivial =)
01:04.46Grum_ah i can steal the coordinate system from carto
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01:05.50kergothhmm, wonder if i'd enjoy the rogue or the hunter more in pvp
01:06.01Wobindepends on what pvp
01:06.04Wobinarena?
01:06.15Wobinyou'll spend a whole lot of time as a hunter scrambling for room
01:06.17kergothi've heard both rogues and hunters arent exactly top notch in arenas
01:06.24kergothwhat with LoS issues and stuff
01:06.27Wobinyeah
01:06.27kergoth(for the hunter)
01:06.38Wobinthat's why maybe survival could be better
01:06.38Grum_humz lets try to just draw a fat line somewhere =D
01:06.44Wobincause you'll just tripletrap the others =P
01:06.47kergothhehe
01:06.58kergothi was SV for a bit, the utility is wild
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01:07.11WobinI'm ramping up my agi liek woah
01:07.15Wobinso I can give it a try
01:07.22kergothi'm debating leveling a new rogue, making him a master hammersmith, and going combat maces
01:07.33Wobinso.. much... effort =(
01:07.40WobinI'm doing that atm
01:07.47Wobinbut the grinding the blacksmithing up is painful
01:07.55kergothbs is the one prof i've never had
01:08.06Wobinand looking at the mat requirements for the top level maces is painful
01:08.20kergothi do have a 375 miner though, the hunter, could farm well for me
01:08.29Wobinnah
01:08.33Wobinfarming ore isn't fun
01:08.37Wobinyou need a stockpile
01:10.50WobinI don't know if I can ever play again
01:10.53Wobinafter yesterday
01:11.02Wobinit'll all be an anticlimax
01:11.59RogueShadowwhat happened yesterday?
01:12.21NightHawkTheSanefriday ended.
01:12.24NightHawkTheSanestardust!
01:13.08WobinRogueShadow: Beastlord Helm, Beastlord shoulders, SV gun, SL gun, and Sonic Spear =)
01:13.32Wobinand two +30something agi rings
01:13.44Wobinall in about 4 instance runs
01:14.11RogueShadowah
01:14.29RogueShadowYeah, there is a certain joy in aquiring them, which can never come again.
01:14.38NightHawkTheSaneWobin: you're right, that is an anticlimax compared to stardust.
01:14.42RogueShadowMaybe that's why I like having 10 alts.  :)  
01:15.58WobinI'm going to have to get my rogue up to 70
01:16.04Wobinrun shadowlabs for the blackout truncheon
01:17.12Grum_LOL
01:17.19Grum_i just draw a fat line across my screen
01:17.20Grum_gri
01:17.32Wobingrats!
01:18.07NightHawkTheSane"Let's just say Jack made a reference to Freyr's mother."
01:18.12Grum_humz
01:18.20Grum_which layers do we have? :D
01:18.49kergothWobin, heh, i've passed on that like 3 times on my rogue.. how much ya wanna bet i never see it again if i level a second :)
01:19.03Grum_background, overlay, artwork mmm
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01:19.53CIA-1403sole * r46317 10Gladiator/Gladiator.lua:
01:19.53CIA-14Gladiator:
01:19.53CIA-14- enemy rating and rank show correctly
01:19.53CIA-14- class icons for invisible classes show correctly
01:19.53CIA-14- fixed empty Gladiator frame bug
01:19.53CIA-14- changes by: Serus
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01:26.28CIA-1403cryect * r46318 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua Relog.lua parse.lua): Relog - use /relog reset to reset the data
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01:33.01sb:)) Cryect
01:33.52CryectSo curious you play around with edting/adding columns?
01:34.30GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: stop quoting SG-1 episodes, you keep making me watch them ;)
01:34.43NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: doo iiit!
01:37.18GnarfozNO U
01:37.19Gnarfoz:\
01:37.43NightHawkTheSanei am... >.>
01:37.56Gnarfoztrying to watch a star trek dubbing ;D
01:38.20NightHawkTheSanepffffff.
01:38.32Gnarfozit's a bit older, but still classic, lots of funnay^^
01:38.37NightHawkTheSanewhich ep?
01:38.48SoleIm getting unit tokens of "up" and "down" wtf
01:38.51GnarfozTNG, "Allegiance"
01:39.20Gnarfozat the beginning, Picard is transported/copied to some kind of small prison with 2 (later 3) others there with him
01:39.38NightHawkTheSaneahh, I recall thatone
01:39.47CIA-1403samuelcup * r46319 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua:
01:39.47CIA-14AutoBar:
01:39.47CIA-14zhCN updated
01:39.56NightHawkTheSanethat was pretty good
01:40.07Gnarfozyeah the original one was good in its own right
01:40.13Gnarfozbut this... xD
01:40.34NightHawkTheSanehehe
01:41.04Gnarfozkind of hard though, I'm only getting minutes at a time because I'm farming Mechanar chests with 2 rogues at the same time ^^
01:42.06Solemechanar chests are still farmable?
01:42.15Gnarfozyes
01:42.16Solethought they fixed em
01:42.17Gnarfozit's not 2.2 yet
01:42.27Solegot anything good yet?
01:42.34Gnarfoznot today
01:43.03Gnarfozbut I've got some blues stockpiled in my bank to sell when there's not (m)any of them on the AH
01:43.45Gnarfoztrying to make as much out of this as I can, while it's still possible... I actually might gonna have an epic flying mount some day, yet ^^
01:43.46MudkipzIs there a command for craftlist2 that forces a scan on the jewelcrafting?
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01:46.46Mudkipzor even know of how clist2 scans your designs
01:47.05sbCryect: not yet :o
01:47.43Solehow frustrating -_-    "up" and "down" keep apearing as units to me
01:50.45Gnarfozyay, some minutes free time - both characters at instance reset limit ;D
01:50.46Cryectsb: heh well when you do you prolly want to check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Relog/Tags for all the possible tags :-p
01:50.58CryectI need to document them better but they are all there at least
01:53.58Tullerwhat will you do when the blizzard combat log stuff is implemented? jump for joy? :)
01:54.18CryectBe glad its easier to track Unit Data
01:58.24NightHawkTheSane"I'd like to take the time to say, this is a very poorly designed bomb, and we should say something to someone when we get back."
01:58.32Gnarfozheh
02:01.05AmadeoAnyone remember what MoB Gaming's arena team name really was?
02:01.11AmadeoWas it Evil Genius or something?
02:02.19NightHawkTheSane"Carter...I can see my house!"
02:03.49art3misWho would win in a fight between Lemmy and God?
02:03.52art3misTRICK QUESTION!@
02:03.56art3misLemmy IS God
02:04.24NightHawkTheSaneyour mom is god.
02:04.56art3misso my mom is lemmy?
02:05.03Keiasairheads was an awesome movie
02:05.08art3misthats kind of disturbing, yet cool
02:05.09NightHawkTheSane... yes?
02:06.52art3misheh i spent part of yesterday watching all the episodes of Greg the Bunny
02:07.11art3misand ive only come to the conclusion that sarah silverman is a cutie
02:10.44kenlyricthe conclusion you are supposed to reach is that seth green is a god.
02:11.44GnarfozAmadeo: Evil Genius it was
02:12.28Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane is your god, bitches
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02:16.57Mudkipzanyone else use xs.to imagehosting?
02:17.06Mudkipzmy friend says "i clicked yours and my wep page imploded and my virus scanner popped up and found 4 things" from my thumbnail
02:17.12Mudkipzkinda concerned
02:17.53CIA-1403sayclub * r46320 10AutoBar/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-koKR.lua):
02:17.53CIA-14AutoBar:
02:17.54CIA-14- Fixed localization koKR
02:18.31SilowyiI could use some help or a pointer in the right direction if someone cares to give some advice.
02:19.12SilowyiI need to identify buffs and talents that increase hit chance, like for instance the draenei racial, or weapon masteries
02:19.16Silowyior the human racial
02:19.59ThraeSilowyi: Welcome to tooltip scanning.
02:21.28Silowyihmm
02:21.39Silowyido the talents show up as hidden passive buffs? (hopeful)
02:22.21ThraeSilviu-: Welcome to scanning the talent tree
02:22.41art3misThrae is our Welcome Bot
02:22.57SilowyiThrae: I foresee pain?
02:23.48ThraeSilowyi: Indeed.
02:24.03Silowyi>.>
02:24.45ThraeSilowyi: What do you need the values for? There's an easier way to just get your current hit percentage, talents, etc. included
02:24.52SilowyiReally?
02:25.18SilowyiGetCombatRating doesn't do it
02:25.58ThraeSilowyi: Lemme check FrameXML...
02:26.08dodgaSo I get spammed with /$somethingSpyGnome and /$afasdfBigWigasdfasf
02:26.14dodgaIs that normal? :D
02:26.15Diaolol
02:26.20Diaodid anyone else's cycircled reset
02:26.23Diaoafter latest update
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02:27.11SilowyiThe Hit Rating display under Melee in the character pane doesn't reflect buffs that add %chance to hit. It only reflects hit rating :(
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02:28.16ulicso convert hit rating to % and then +
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02:29.56ThraeSilowyi: Play with FrameXML\PaperDollFrame.lua and PaperDollFrame_SetStat(...). That uses the UnitStat command.
02:29.56SilowyiYes that's the way I thought I'd have to go, Thrae seems to have another method perhaps
02:30.05Thrae!api UnitStat
02:30.06ThraeBotThrae: base, stat, posBuff, negBuff = UnitStat("unit", statID);  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitStat
02:30.19Silowyiah... cool that should be helpful
02:30.25ThraeSilowyi: "posBuff" and "negBuff" looks most helpful ;)
02:30.27Silowyithank you Thrae!
02:30.39Silowyihmm
02:30.43ThraeYep, remember to always download FrameXML for starting out with coding
02:30.45Silowyithe docs on that say its only for stats
02:30.59Silowyiagi/str/spi/sta/int
02:31.25ThraeAh, wait, lemme scroll down on PaperDrollFrame.lua
02:31.29Thraes/Droll/Doll/
02:32.03Silowyidoes purl do that automatically?
02:32.08Silowyis/does/did
02:32.14Silowyis/does/did/
02:32.19Silowyirofl
02:32.20Silowyithat's great
02:32.30Thrae!api GetCombatRating
02:32.31ThraeBotThrae: rating = GetCombatRating(combatRatingIdentifier)  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating
02:32.35Thrae!api GetCombatRatingBonus
02:32.36ThraeBotThrae: bonus = GetCombatRatingBonus(combatRatingIdentifier)  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRatingBonus
02:32.46ThraeThose are the ones you want, sorry to get you off-track
02:32.50Silowyiyeah again... those don't reflect percentage buffs
02:32.56ThraeThe Bonus should
02:33.03Silowyiit doesn't... verified
02:33.36Silowyiits actually what my mod currently uses, and I just spent an entire Karazhan raid last night grouped with a draenei
02:34.00Silowyiand the hit rating from that API call did not reflect the 1% buff
02:34.07Thraeif ( ratingIndex == CR_HIT_MELEE ) then statFrame.tooltip2 = format(CR_HIT_MELEE_TOOLTIP, UnitLevel("player"), ratingBonus)
02:34.23Silowyi[21:27] (Silowyi): The Hit Rating display under Melee in the character pane doesn't reflect buffs that add %chance to hit. It only reflects hit rating :(
02:35.30ThraeSilowyi: That's because it goes against GetCombatRatingBonus, not GetCombatRating. The latter is post-buff, the former is the base bonus applied to UnitLevel.
02:36.21Funkeh`if anyone missed it http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320&sid=1
02:36.21ThraeSilowyi: When buffed, GetCombatRatingBonus * UnitLevel("player") ~= GetCombatRating
02:36.41ThraeSilowyi: When buffed, GetCombatRatingBonus(ratingIndex) * UnitLevel("player") ~= GetCombatRating(ratingIndex)
02:36.54ThraeSilowyi: Make a Dranei and test it out
02:36.55Silowyiof course not
02:37.37Silowyihere's the code my addon currently uses
02:38.18Silowyiself.db.profile.hit_bonus = GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_HIT_MELEE);
02:38.55SilowyiAnd that does not reflect talents or buffs. I've tested it on a human rogue, and grouped with a draenei shaman
02:39.34ThraeSilowyi: What about GetCombatRating? Did you test that too?
02:40.22SilowyiNo, I figured by the descriptions that the result would be the same... the buff doesn't actually add hit rating, it adds 1% chance
02:40.53ThraeSilowyi: Check anyway ;)
02:41.19cladhaireI need to make the buffs for my PetFrame always active
02:42.22cladhaireor even better show them in my normal buff display
02:42.26cladhairethat sounds like a good addon, heh
02:43.30Silowyihmm is there a replacement for /script SendChatMessage()?
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02:44.00BankZDoes the effective healing mod for Violation work for anyone?
02:44.14ThraeSilowyi: /p, /s, etc.
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02:45.56AmadeoRaven Lord mount has to be the sexiest mount in the game
02:46.16NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's the sexiest mount in the game.
02:46.32SilowyiThrae I'm fairly certain I can't use /s GetcombatRating(CR_MELEE_HIT); and expect it to work ^_^.
02:47.18ulicfor testing stuff I usually just dump it out with /script message(blah())
02:47.24ulicnot pretty, but works
02:47.42ThraeSilowyi: You asked for an alternative to /script SendChatMessage(), not an alternative which would allow scripted inside your message ;)
02:48.28Silowyiulic: /script message(blah()) doesn't seem to be working for me.
02:48.52ulicwell you have to insert your own function in place of blah
02:49.01Silowyiok let me rephrase :P
02:49.25Silowyiulic: /script message(GetCombatRating(CR_MELEE_HIT... oh fudge
02:49.29Silowyiit's HIT_MELEE
02:49.31Silowyinvm
02:50.35Diaohow do you print the second returned value
02:50.35Diao:o
02:51.18ulicyea, if there are two values returned that doesn't work
02:51.46ulicsometimes I'll just stick it in a macro that way it's multi-line lua
02:52.08ulicalso helps if I need to reload the ui, I don't have to type it again.
02:52.31ulicbut there are also addons that do similar things, I think Omnibus will execute scripts
02:52.40Solewhats the unit command to determine if a unit is a pet?
02:53.24DiaoIsPet?
02:53.44Diaowiat nm
02:53.46Diaothat's a dogtag
02:53.48Diaolol
02:54.17AntiarcUse UnitPlayerControlled() and not UnitIsPlayer()
02:55.07Solethanks antiarc
02:55.25SoleI just assumed UnitIsPet to exist, so much for assumptions -_-
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02:57.41ccKep[04:47:18] <ulic> for testing stuff I usually just dump it out with /script message(blah()) <<< AceConsole /print blah() works wonders, even for multiple return values ^.^
02:58.57ulicwell there you have it
03:00.23ccKep/print GetGuildRosterInfo(2)
03:00.26ccKep-> "D\195\169ie", "Member", 3, 70, "Shaman", "Shattrath City", "", "", 1, ""
03:00.28ccKep^.^
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03:01.45ccKepheya ck
03:01.57ckknighthey
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03:02.57HarveyDentIs the guy that does Prat is here here?
03:02.59HarveyDent*he
03:03.03HarveyDentor I gues... she
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03:05.57CIA-14Numen:
03:05.57CIA-14- Added localization for fubar options.
03:05.57CIA-14- Added padding, scale, and alpha options.
03:05.57CIA-14- Added "Totem Stomper" macro functionality (check per char macros)
03:09.44BankZDoes the effective healing mod for Violation work for anyone?
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03:10.21ccKepa guildmate mentioned it too... I don't have it installed, what it supposed to do?
03:10.36ccKepafaik the normal "Healing Done" window already shows effective?
03:11.27ccKeptested it ooc with full hp, healed myself and it didn't appear in "Healing Done", just "Overhealing".. so I thought that its already effective
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03:12.19Silowyistatute of limitations might be up on this conversation
03:12.43Silowyibut Thrae, GetCombatRating doesn't reflect draenei racial buff
03:14.55ccKepdraenei racial doesn't appear in character screen too, wouldn't wonder if it doesn't even work (though I think it does...)
03:15.31BankZccKep: it shows ooc healing, the effective healing (poorly named) should only be in combat
03:15.57ccKepI reset once I enter combat, so I don't really care about that =)
03:16.01BankZits a poorly named addon
03:16.30ckknightsoo...
03:16.36ckknightwatching Evan Almighty
03:16.43ccKepwatched it an hour ago
03:16.49ccKeppretty weird story
03:16.53BankZbut without a ooc filter violation is kinda pointless for healers
03:17.02ckknightand I'm pretty sure that all the species of the world don't live within walking distance
03:17.50Thorgardckknight, depends on where you live.
03:18.03ckknightno, nowhere is that true.
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03:18.21ccKepBankZ: healers can check to auto reset on entering combat, noone cares about trashmob "effective healing done" Oo
03:18.22Thorgardckknight, sure it is.. 'cause it also depends on how big you are..
03:19.07ckknight...no
03:20.16ccKephmhmhm
03:20.23ccKep5:20 here
03:20.30ccKepraid invite begins 14:30
03:20.30Solehas somebody seen this error before?  http://ace.pastey.net/72089
03:22.19ccKepdunno what Cockfight.lua line 364 is ^.^
03:22.26Soleignore that bit
03:22.34SoleI mean dont ignore it
03:23.02Soleline 364 is simply a couple Unit****   functions calling the unit token
03:23.06ccKepcalling something with an unknown unit token ("down")
03:23.22ccKepthere is no unitid named "down" in WoW that I know of
03:23.28SoleI know that
03:23.49SoleIm asking why the hell its coming up from mouseover/target/party target units
03:24.05SoleI also get the unit token "up" appearing
03:24.20ccKeponclick event with mousedown / mouseup stuff?
03:24.48Solemaybe but I dont have any onclick stuff in cockfight
03:25.39ccKepall it says is you're using an invalid unit token.. I don't know what that causes without looking at any code ;)
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03:26.43HarveyDentI've noticed lately that FuBar uses about 8-10MB of UI memory
03:26.48HarveyDentis that common/normal?
03:26.53JoshBorkethen get a new mod
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03:27.02ccKepwith or without externals?
03:27.10HarveyDentI don't know what an external is
03:27.16ckknightthat means yes
03:27.19HarveyDentbut I run a few mods
03:27.42HarveyDentbut even with just three enabled plus FuBar it takes up about 8.75MB after several minutes
03:27.44ccKepwell, guess you're checking with PerformanceFu, right?
03:27.59HarveyDentand it's .. whatever rate the increasing rate is alwys a constant +700KiB
03:28.07HarveyDentyes
03:28.29ccKepdoes it show something like "Ace2" in the list for example?
03:28.50CyrezWoW uses 5MB by itself, I noticed.
03:29.13ccKep10mb is quite a lot, even with externals... but that could be an explanation
03:29.45ThraeCyrez: Depends on how much of the UI you're using at the time -- lot of the stuff is LoD. So if you go to the Auction House, it'll load the Auction House frames, which of course can't be unloaded until you enter an instance, do /console reload, etc.
03:30.06CyrezOoo. ^^
03:30.07JoshBorkeunloads happen on zoning?
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03:30.42HarveyDentsorry was disconnectd
03:30.53HarveyDentNo Ace2 is not showing up at least in the top 20
03:30.56ThraeJoshBorke: Honestly, I can't remember
03:30.59HarveyDentthe top 3 however are...
03:31.15HarveyDentFuBar at 3.83MB @ +830KiB
03:31.26ccKepthats not 10mb ;)
03:31.32HarveyDentPitBull @ 2.78MB @ +10KiB
03:31.34HarveyDentyeah, not yet
03:31.38HarveyDentgive it 10-20 minutes
03:31.50HarveyDentthats why I listed the increasing rate
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03:32.07ThraeAnyway, Total Memory Usage == Not Indictative Of Anything. Your big three are: Load Time, Mem Increase/sec, and CPU Usage. Unless you're trying to run WoW under 256MB of RAM, total memory usage is not helpful for optimization.
03:32.11HarveyDentDoes turning FuBar transparent result in this?
03:32.32HarveyDentBecause this only occurred since I turned it transparent. Normally it would never show up in my top three at all
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03:32.34CIA-14Numen:
03:32.34CIA-14- guess i should test before comitting
03:32.36HarveyDentnot even top 5
03:32.59ThraeIf your UI uses 300MB of memory, loads in 1 second, uses 1% CPU, and increases by 1KB/s, who cares about the 300MB
03:33.10HarveyDentIt was only AtlasLoot and Cartographer that would ever be present in the top 5 consistently. Now Pitbull is up there all the time
03:33.22HarveyDentThrae - memory leaks aren't a concern?
03:33.27ccKepto be honest: I can't believe that 700KiB/s increasing rate.. but if it's true I think one of you're addons might be bugged ;)
03:33.36ccKep(atleast not long term constant 700)
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03:33.41ThraeHarveyDent: Memory leaks would be the amount the memory is increasing, not the total memory used
03:33.49HarveyDentthey are relative.
03:33.54HarveyDentso I don't see your point
03:34.22ThraeHarveyDent: Not unless you compare them on load vs after x amount of hours
03:34.25Comxckknight: why when i use this code [GuildRank][GuildRank:IsNotEqual()?Text( of )][Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild:Angle] i get a blank line when a player has no guild
03:34.40HarveyDentok then after an hour its going to be up to 10MB
03:34.46HarveyDentuntil I clear garbage
03:35.04ThraeHarveyDent: If AddonX uses 10MB on load and 11MB after 4 hours, that's fine
03:35.19HarveyDentI noticed this after I did two things: Installed PitBull and 2) turned FuBar transparent
03:35.36HarveyDentright but FuBar usually only ever used about 1.25MB
03:35.44HarveyDentnow it's consistently loading in at 3+
03:35.52HarveyDentand gets up to 8-10MB after an hour or so
03:35.53ThraeHarveyDent: It's probably PitBull, turning FuBar transparent wouldn't do anything. Installing PitBull probably updated something FuBar used, or uses FuBar itself.
03:35.59ccKeppitbull has a small memleak I think, but it's not even near a 700 KiB/s
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03:36.17ThraeHarveyDent: Your best bet is to disable all your addons and only enable PitBull
03:36.26ccKepwhat unit frames are you displaying HarveyDent?
03:36.37Nargiddleythat 700kb isnt rate, its extra since load
03:36.46ccKephe said rate I think?
03:36.53ThraeHe said rate increasing
03:36.57ccKep[05:27:59] <HarveyDent> and it's .. whatever rate the increasing rate is alwys a constant +700KiB
03:37.03HarveyDentI am displaying my playerframe only
03:37.28Nargiddleythen he quoted the numbers off performancefu, which shows extra since load
03:37.37ccKepperformancefu shows both
03:37.42ccKepsince last GC and the increasing rate
03:37.46ThraeHmmm yeah him saying "constant +700KiB" doesn't make any sense
03:37.52ccKep(however, rate not per addon)
03:38.03ThraeThe rate of increase is -never- constant across an entire hour
03:38.19HarveyDentafter I clear garbage it brings it down to 0.3KiB
03:38.23HarveyDentthe increasing rate
03:38.27ccKepHarveyDent: that +700 KiB, is that the info from the bottom tooltip, or after the addon name (2nd column?)
03:38.53HarveyDentbut then it steadily gets up to 1.83MB
03:39.04HarveyDentit's in the top
03:39.05ThraeMaybe PerformanceFu is showing the amount of garbage?
03:39.07ccKep1.83mb increasing rate... never ever
03:39.15ccKepat the top?
03:39.17HarveyDentyeah
03:39.21ccKepwell.. /me uploads screenshot
03:39.22ccKepsec.
03:39.26HarveyDentat the bottom though it's always red when this happens
03:39.29ThraeI think it's the amount of garbage waiting to be collected
03:39.41HarveyDentyeah like I start off at 20MB total UI used
03:39.48HarveyDentthen after an hour it's up to nearly 30MB
03:40.01HarveyDentlast night it was 31.8 after a full two hour run in Mech
03:40.04Xinhuanthe number is merely the difference from "current memory used" and the "initial value"
03:40.06ccKepuploading
03:40.17HarveyDentwhen I looked at the top of the list, FuBar had 10.78 MB UI
03:40.20ccKephttp://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/fubar.jpg
03:40.22ThraeHarveyDent: PerformanceFu shows the rate of increase as per second...if it was 1MB per second, you'd have a HELL of a lot larger then 30MB!!
03:40.22ccKepat that example
03:40.27ccKepwhere would that +700 be?
03:40.27Xinhuanit doesn't indicate the amount of memory that can be GCed
03:40.53HarveyDentat the top there on the right
03:40.55HarveyDentin your screenshot
03:41.05ccKepthat 47 KIB?
03:41.05HarveyDentbut the rate there at the bottom is red for me sometimes
03:41.09HarveyDentyeah
03:41.12HarveyDentexcept in that column
03:41.19HarveyDentit says 1.83MB sometimes
03:41.26HarveyDentthen it goes up and up over time
03:41.32Xinhuanthat doesn't matter
03:41.34HarveyDentalso - how is your PitBull using only 800~KB?
03:41.42HarveyDentmine is using over 2.5 MB
03:41.49Xinhuanit just shows the amount of stuff the addon is using as non-collectable memory
03:41.53ccKepyou're running with externals
03:42.01HarveyDentwhat is externals
03:42.04HarveyDentI have no idea what that means
03:42.11HarveyDentaddons?
03:42.25Funkeh`he means you are running with embed libraries
03:42.27ccKepwell, ace2 addons are using shared libraries (the ace-framework)
03:42.29JoshBorkeexternals means the entire Ace stack is embedded in each mod
03:42.36ThraeHarveyDent: PerformanceFu is adding in the cost of the libraries PitBull is using, even though they're shared across multiple addons
03:42.43HarveyDentcan I ... not do that then?
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03:42.55HarveyDentthis happens even if I just use Prat, Pitbull, and FuBar all at once
03:42.55ccKepwell, thats not (too) bad
03:43.02ccKepthat's got nothing to do with memory, only loading time
03:43.18ccKepevery single addon of you has the ace2 framework embed in some subfolder
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03:43.23ThraeHarveyDent: You can remove that and it'll give you a better picture of how much the addon itself is using. Of course if you don't have any other addons using a library PitBull uses, then you'd just add that number to PitBull.
03:43.31HarveyDentlike when I was setting all this up - those rates or whatever it is, they are always 2.5MB or more with just those addons (Prat, Pitbull, and FuBar)
03:43.32ccKepand the newest version of it stays in memory
03:43.43HarveyDenthrm..
03:43.56Xinhuanit just means pitbull is your most updated addon
03:44.03ccKeplets say you have two ace2 addons, one called AddonA, one called AddonB
03:44.15ccKepyou have updated AddonA six month ago
03:44.20ccKepso it has some old ace2 stuff
03:44.23HarveyDentahh ok - so whatever one is the newest, the other addons kick over to and use that library built into pitbull?
03:44.28ccKepthen the ace2 stuff will be loaded from AddonB
03:44.31Xinhuanyes
03:44.36ccKepand as such AddonB appears to be using more memory
03:44.43HarveyDentwhen it really might not be
03:44.52Xinhuanbecause of the same code-base being used, wow doesn't know that
03:45.00HarveyDenthrm alright
03:45.05ccKepbut you can download Ace2 seperately and tell your mods to run without externals
03:45.06Xinhuanit can only attribute the ace2 basecode to ONE of the addons you run
03:45.12ccKepthen "Ace2" appears as a single module
03:45.13HarveyDenthow can I remedy this then? The whole thing about me having to clear garbage?
03:45.22Xinhuannothing, your memory usage is fine?
03:45.22ccKepand none of your other ace2 modules are credited for the ace2-memory usage
03:45.26HarveyDentreally - FuBar does get up to 10MB
03:45.40HarveyDentit just never happened before and it seems odd
03:45.47NargiddleyHarveyDent, what fubar plugins do you have ?
03:45.48HarveyDentbut if you guys think its ok then I guess it's ok :)
03:45.50Xinhuannothing really odd about it
03:45.53HarveyDentoh boy.. uhm
03:45.59HarveyDentwell hold on
03:46.01Xinhuani regularly have addon memory usage go over 100mb
03:46.15Nargiddleyif theres anything that collects combat data, then theres definately nothing to worry about
03:46.19ccKepI never reach 30 mb Oo
03:46.33HarveyDentyeah before PitBull and Prat
03:46.34Funkeh`lol I log in at 16mb
03:46.37HarveyDentI never went over 22 or 20
03:46.41Xinhuanwell i run a lot of database type addons, so yah, i do sometimes go over 100 mb
03:46.41Funkeh`With a massive addons list
03:46.43HarveyDentI sed to log in at 15
03:46.47HarveyDent*Used
03:46.52HarveyDentnow I log in at 20
03:46.55HarveyDentand it gets up to 30MB
03:47.02Funkeh`thats rpetty normal
03:47.05Funkeh`pretty*
03:47.13ccKepyeah, I just garbage collect manually at 30
03:47.29HarveyDentcan I jsut give you guys my addons.txt ?
03:47.32Xinhuandid you know the WoW default UI uses about 17 mb (or is it 12?) of ram?
03:47.35HarveyDentis there some place to paste that?
03:47.49Nargiddleyace.pastey.net
03:47.49ccKephttp://ace.pastey.net
03:47.52HarveyDentok
03:47.53HarveyDentsec
03:47.59XinhuanWoW however hides that fact and you can't find out how much memory wow's internal addons uses anymore
03:48.27Xinhuanso whatever you see in performancefu doesn't include your default ui
03:49.23ThraeXinhuan: Sure you can. Run GCInfo() without any addons and you won't get a 0 result.
03:49.24HarveyDentok
03:49.30HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72090
03:49.38Brunersi start at around 60
03:49.40Xinhuanok thrae, but that doesn't give you a breakdown ;p
03:49.44HarveyDentthats what I have running.. sorry it's a lot of stuff but keep in mind not all of it is for mey guy
03:49.56ThraeXinhuan: Oh, right, yeah I think they're still protected there
03:50.09ThraeXinhuan: Although most of them are LoD
03:50.29Xinhuani dont' think for eg, there's a way to find out how much the AH default UI is using
03:50.56Brunerswhy do you have both cartographer and gatherer ?
03:50.57Xinhuanbut it is possible to simply duplicate the entire blizzard UI into your own addon
03:51.01Xinhuanand measure that :P
03:51.02ThraeI'll double-check sometime
03:51.05Xinhuanso haha
03:51.06HarveyDentI just thought I would bring it you your attention since this just started occurring after I used Pitbull and Prat together
03:51.12HarveyDentI don't
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03:51.19Funkeh`just get the addon kit
03:51.23Funkeh`it has all the separate addons
03:51.25Funkeh`in lua format
03:51.26HarveyDentGatherer isnt even installed anymore
03:51.30Funkeh`load it up and emasure
03:51.34Xinhuanthe addon kit doesn't tell you actual ingame addon memory usage funkeh
03:51.38Xinhuanits protected
03:51.46Xinhuanyou can't query information about them
03:52.15ThraeYou can query the total, though
03:52.19ccKepHarveyDent: occasionally /sws nuke 'ing ?
03:52.35ThraeThe total should always be relatively the same, since it's the default UI and included for everyone
03:52.37HarveyDentI dont use SWS
03:52.39Xinhuanonly way is to copy the blizz UI and load it as one of your own addons, to be able to measure the real usage, real kb/sec increase, etc
03:52.45ccKepah, disabled
03:52.46ccKepsorry ;)
03:52.47HarveyDentthat IS installed but I haven't used it in ages
03:53.06HarveyDent@Xinhuan: I will try that this evening
03:53.33ccKepyeah, running pasting the result of -> find "enabled" addons.txt <- would've made it easier to read ;)
03:53.57ccKep-running
03:54.02HarveyDentI guess the bottom line: I was concerned because this occurred only last night after installing Prat and Pitbull. Never before have I ever gotten that high in memory usage so I figured to bring it here but it seems like that might be OK
03:54.16HarveyDenthold on let me do that
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03:54.47ccKepwell, if it just happened after that you might want to try disabling pitbull, looking at the usage and then doign the same with prat
03:55.36Xinhuanboth addons are pretty bloated imo
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03:56.09Xinhuanyou have to disabled huge portions of either just to get the specific stuff you want
03:56.39ccKepusing pitbull for player, target, targettarget
03:56.58ccKepswitched from aguf, I really like the healing estimator
03:57.58ccKepif it detects the rank I'm casting I would be even happier =)
03:58.13HarveyDentwell I like Pitbull it does what I need but I do have an issue with prat though
03:58.27ccKepnever used prat.. /shrug
03:58.49HarveyDentOk
03:58.55HarveyDenthere you go
03:58.56Xinhuanif you think an addon tries to do too much, try to find an addon that does less
03:58.56HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72091
03:59.20HarveyDentPrat is fine actually I am just having an issue right now with zoning
03:59.37HarveyDentI asked in wowi-lounge but cladhaire said he was going to be gone for a bit and couldn't help me atm
03:59.41HarveyDentsaid I should try here
03:59.49Brunersare you using Fubar AND titan ?
03:59.54HarveyDentno
03:59.59HarveyDentlook at the newer one
04:00.02HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72091
04:00.05Brunersi am
04:00.10HarveyDentI got rid of a lot of those a while ago
04:00.34HarveyDenthuh.. thats weird
04:00.42HarveyDentthose addons aren't even in my addon folder anymore
04:00.58HarveyDentcould that cause any problems?
04:01.11Funkeh`no
04:01.31HarveyDentdon't ignore any other conflicts like that though
04:01.39HarveyDentI can answer any question you might have about my addons
04:01.40Funkeh`addons.txt keeps a list of addons you used, even if you deleted them
04:01.43HarveyDent(you know..)
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04:02.26Funkeh`you are probably better off jsut going to your addons folder, sorting it in a list format, and screenshotting it
04:02.42HarveyDentlol ok
04:02.44HarveyDentone sec
04:02.57Funkeh`are you using WowAceUpdater by the way?
04:03.01HarveyDentsorry this is such a weird issue - I don't know if it will help but thanks for taking an interest
04:03.04HarveyDentyes
04:03.12HarveyDentI'm on a Mac but yes
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04:05.48HarveyDentok how about I paste an updated version of what I know I have enabled? heh
04:05.58HarveyDenttoo many addons in the folder to take a screenshot of on the mac.
04:07.04Funkeh`http://ace.pastey.net/72091 scroll down to the edit box
04:07.09Funkeh`It states paste a follow up
04:08.18HarveyDentoh.. sorry
04:08.22HarveyDentjust made a new one
04:08.23HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72094
04:08.33HarveyDentI'll do that in the future though from now on
04:08.48HarveyDentthat is my latest list, everything I have enabled, and the only stuff for my character - nothing old, etc.
04:10.31Funkeh`I don't really see anything wrong wiht that
04:10.46Funkeh`Although you could save some memory growth by replaing dbm
04:11.41HarveyDentreally?
04:11.53HarveyDenttbh I hardly ever use it except in SSC and Kara
04:12.13HarveyDentit doesn't... turn on... (?) until I go into those places - do you mean just in general when it IS on?
04:12.45Funkeh`DBM's core loads a lot of shit even when off
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04:13.17Xinhuani would suggest you dont' worry about memory usage of addons and just play the game ;p
04:13.28Xinhuanunless your computer only has 512 mb ram
04:13.37durcynif something's not eating memory, chances are it's eating something else instead
04:13.41durcynroll with it
04:14.49Xinhuanjust because an addon uses 10 mb extra memory doesn't mean its bad. it just means it could have been done better, but there's no real hurt done
04:15.18Funkeh`If the addons is using 10mb of memory a second it is bad no matter how much memory you have
04:15.39Xinhuanthat's extreme
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04:15.51Xinhuani just meant flat memory usage, not the rate of increase
04:15.54Funkeh`It was an example that we are discussing growth not total usage
04:16.33Xinhuaneven if the rate of increase is big, unless it actually impacts actual gameplay, it wouldn't really matter
04:16.56Funkeh`Any kind of big growth rate will impact your system
04:17.12Xinhuanthe question is whether that impact is noticable or not
04:17.26Funkeh`Well, usually it is in loss of frames per second
04:17.41Xinhuanif my FPS dropped from 60 to 59, i coudlnt' care less
04:18.01Xinhuanif it dropped from 15 to 12, then i would care more about it
04:18.08Funkeh`I could, I paid for my graphics card, addons should be drowning that
04:18.24Xinhuanthe game shipped without addons
04:18.47Funkeh`Im talking about addons in particular not vanilla wow
04:18.54Comxany know why i get a blank line when i player has no guild [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild:Angle]
04:19.40Xinhuani'm just saying in general, its abnormal to worry about memory usage unless it impacts gameplay
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04:19.46Xinhuanmaybe you don't agree with that
04:19.59Funkeh`I don't give a shit about memory usage
04:20.02Funkeh`I never said I did
04:20.08Funkeh`We were talking about memory growth
04:20.26Xinhuani never mentioned memory growth until you brought it up
04:20.50Xinhuanall i said was, if an addon used an extra 10 mb ram, it doesn't mean its bad.
04:20.51Funkeh`Brought it up? The whole discussin with HarveyDent was based on it, you changed that discussion
04:21.58HarveyDentwell the reason I brought it up anyhow is not so much that I care (Sort of)
04:22.08HarveyDentI just thought maybe it wasn't the intent of the author to have it use that much
04:22.16HarveyDent(since I have never seen it use that much in the past)
04:22.32Funkeh`But it isn't really using that much, its jsut all the libraries that are using that much
04:22.52HarveyDentthought it might be something to report but apparently it's ok. I mean the impact on my game isnt much but I figured the purpose of even making all these addons in the way in which they;ve been made (Ace, eetc.) was to cut the fat, etc.
04:22.53Funkeh`So at the end of the day it is pretty normal
04:22.59HarveyDentyeah
04:23.15HarveyDentthats the vibe I am getting - which I appreciate everyone taking the time to discuss
04:23.25HarveyDentI never knew that's how it worked.
04:23.38Xinhuanace in itself has a lot of bloat most addons don't use - but they dont matter much if you have a lot of addons that use ace as a whole
04:23.55HarveyDentI do have another topic however - which I AM hoping it can be answered
04:23.57Funkeh`You have to remember these libraries are shared, so you divide the use by the addons you have, it looks a lot better
04:24.06HarveyDentyeah Dan Gilbert was talking about this
04:24.10HarveyDentif you have 10 addons
04:24.19HarveyDentand all of them but one is Lua
04:24.24HarveyDentand only one is Ace
04:24.36HarveyDentyou might actually end up using more UI memory if you have just one Ace addon
04:24.40HarveyDentas opposed to 10
04:24.43Funkeh`Indeed
04:25.06HarveyDenthowever, it becomes "relative" once you have the other 9 addons using Ace because now, those all take up nominal resources
04:25.11Funkeh`Ace is aimed at sharing, the more you share it the better
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04:25.30HarveyDentso it makes sense I just thought maybe you guys might think it might be an issue for FuBar since it was getting a bit high but I realize now it might not be a big deal
04:25.41Funkeh`Thats why people tend to have complete Ace UI's to take the most advantage of it
04:25.49HarveyDentthats why I switched tbh
04:25.53HarveyDentyou saw my addons list
04:25.56ckknightalso, things are typically easier if it's all ace
04:25.59ckknightfor upgrading, etc.
04:25.59HarveyDent(the very first one)
04:26.05HarveyDentI agree ckknight
04:26.07ckknightbut all in all, there are some very good non-ace addons
04:26.11Funkeh`Although, thats not an excuse to switch to crap mods, I have seen people switching from efficient non-ace mods to un-efficint ace mods
04:26.12ckknightLightheaded, for example
04:26.16HarveyDentyeah
04:26.19HarveyDentand bankitems
04:26.19ckknightAuctioneer, as another example
04:26.22ckknightI use both.
04:26.23Xinhuanyou should use addons because of their usefulness and functionaility - not because whether they are ace
04:26.47Xinhuantalking about bankitems, i should be updating it ~_~
04:26.48HarveyDentI did do that initialy
04:27.05HarveyDentsome have survived the chopping block
04:27.06ckknightI need to work on AceConfig
04:27.08GnarfozXinhuan: works great :>
04:27.08ckknightbah
04:27.13HarveyDentok wait before you guys go lol
04:27.19Xinhuansome users are asking for a search feature
04:27.20HarveyDentI REALLY am hoping this can be answered
04:27.22Xinhuanto locate items on their 50 alts
04:27.33Funkeh`ckknight: have you talked with kaelten abotu joker yet?
04:27.35Xinhuani havent bothered just yet to code in something like that
04:27.39ckknightFunkeh`: of course I have
04:27.52HarveyDentok I'll ask :) I just hope it gets a response
04:27.54HarveyDentso here goes..
04:27.54Diaobankitems has been updated?
04:28.02Diaoo:
04:28.07ckknightFunkeh`: basically, once split svns come into play, Joker will be renamed Ace3 and have its own SVN
04:28.11Xinhuani've been updating it since last year
04:28.23HarveyDentI use Prat and I have my chat tabs hidden. Someone on the WoW forums had a picture of their UI and I asked them how they got it to look that way and they told me.
04:28.29Funkeh`ckknight: sounds cool
04:28.38Funkeh`ckknight: would be nice to get a joker branch up though
04:28.43ckknightit is up...
04:28.51HarveyDentHowever, when I asked bout the missing chat tabs, they showed me a macro to use that would act like clicking the chat tabs but without the chat tabs
04:28.52Funkeh`ckknight: I mean, for joker addons
04:28.55ckknightoh
04:28.56Diaosanity won't show how many of an item i have :(
04:29.16ckknightonce JokerConfig is done, that can be discussed
04:29.17HarveyDentBasically it's /script ChatFrame1:Show() followed by several /script ChatFrame#:Hide()
04:29.24ckknightit's the final building block
04:29.27HarveyDentthey work just fine, since I have several chat tabs
04:29.31Funkeh`cool
04:29.33HarveyDentproblem is though...
04:29.47HarveyDentwhenever I am running around places, the sub-zone will change (not the zone)
04:29.54HarveyDentand it will flip me back to General chat
04:30.11HarveyDentso I'm like... wtf... so I click on the macro to go back to guild chat or what have you..
04:30.16Funkeh`time flies, better head off
04:30.19Funkeh`later
04:30.24HarveyDentand I zone again or change areas, whatever, it goes right back to general chat
04:30.33HarveyDentAnyone have any idea what I can do to stop that?
04:30.42HarveyDent(aside from using chat tabs again)
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04:31.33HarveyDentdamn... now everyone is gone.
04:31.50ckknighttrue
04:32.14HarveyDentck any ideas?
04:32.24ckknightwhat you're doing is crazy.
04:32.33ckknightand quite uncouth
04:32.40Xinhuansigh isn't it annoying to have to decide to go back an update an older addon you wrote, vs writing a new one :(
04:33.21HarveyDenthaha, well I didn't know any other way to do it since that's what I was able to come up with after asking this person and trying it out
04:33.40ccKepare your chat windows docked together?
04:33.41HarveyDentIf you can come up with a better way I'm all for it - I really love how PitBull and Prat and everything look together
04:33.53HarveyDentwell... you mean in the default blizzard UI?
04:33.58HarveyDentif so then yes
04:34.12HarveyDentI don't have them all over the place. They all appeared on tabs on the default chat UI
04:36.15HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72097
04:36.19HarveyDentthats what it looks like
04:36.23HarveyDentone button
04:36.40HarveyDentcladhaire said something about maybe needing to unregister an event
04:36.41Diaowhat's chatframe3
04:36.53HarveyDentChatFrame3 I think in that case is my "Guild only" chat
04:37.12HarveyDentit's basically only guild chat and nothing else. everything else filtered out
04:37.29Diaowhy don't you
04:37.33Diaojust turn off everything except guild chat
04:37.35Diaoin your normal frame?
04:37.38HarveyDentusing the default UI, that was just a single tab called "guild chat"
04:37.46HarveyDentI do, thats what I did
04:37.57Diaoo_O
04:38.06HarveyDentthis is to show that chatframe
04:38.07Diaowait what
04:38.10Diaono
04:38.13Diaoi mean in your general frame
04:38.18HarveyDentoh
04:38.21Diaojust filter out everything except guild
04:38.26HarveyDentbecause I would like to see whispers, etc.
04:38.32HarveyDentI have chat tabs hidden in prat
04:38.35Diaoer
04:38.45Diaonow i'm lost :P
04:38.50HarveyDentlol ok
04:38.52HarveyDentbasicaly...
04:39.02HarveyDentwhen I load up the game in the default blizzard ui
04:39.06HarveyDentI have six tabs
04:39.13Diaook
04:39.14HarveyDentGeneral, Trade, Guild, Party, Whisper, and GPW
04:39.20HarveyDentGPW is Guild + Party + Whisper
04:39.31Diaouh huh
04:39.36ccKephttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=330713563&sid=1
04:39.39HarveyDentso obviously each of those is just everything filtered except their title..
04:39.45ccKepChannel Info APIs
04:39.45ccKepNEW - ExpandChannelHeader(chanId);
04:39.45ccKepNEW - CollapseChannelHeader(chanId)
04:39.49ccKepcoming in 2.2 ;)
04:40.03ccKepso, 2.2 should fix your problem I think
04:40.17Diaook
04:40.27Diaoand you want your normal chat to just be whatever you last set it at?
04:40.33HarveyDentSo normally, I would just clck on the tab to see my chattab etc. However , since using Prat... I have hidden the tabs and am trying to figure a way to replicate clicking on a chat tab
04:40.37HarveyDentwithout... clicking on a chat tab
04:40.39Arrowmasterthat api is for the new chat tab in the social frame
04:40.42HarveyDentI was told to use http://ace.pastey.net/72097
04:41.03HarveyDentthat works GREAT. it's exactly what I want
04:41.06HarveyDentbut..
04:41.24HarveyDentwhenever I am walking around.. I don't know.. Stormwind.. and I go from trade to mage quarter or whatever
04:41.38HarveyDentit keeps flipping me BACK to general
04:41.52HarveyDentlike as if me performing http://ace.pastey.net/72097 was temporary
04:42.08Diaoprobably because it's autoswitching whenever it receives a chat update
04:42.16HarveyDentI was told it might be related to changing zones/sub-zones and to ask here since cladhaire was going away in wowi-lounge
04:42.23Arrowmasterits not auto switching, more like auto showing
04:42.25HarveyDentactually, that isn't the case I found out
04:42.33HarveyDentso long as I don't move
04:42.40HarveyDent(which means, don't zone/sub-zone)
04:42.49HarveyDentI can view the frame all day jsut as I want
04:42.58HarveyDentbut once I zone/sub-zone ... it switches to general chat.
04:43.08HarveyDentBasically picture flying over Netherstorm...
04:43.20ArrowmasterHarveyDent: are all of your chat frames in the same location?
04:43.21HarveyDentone big zone, one massive area to stay in the same general chat channel ( /1)
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04:43.29Diaooh
04:43.32Diaoi don't know then
04:43.34Diaoi just use minichat
04:43.44HarveyDentI don't know arrowmaster
04:43.51HarveyDentyou mean like...
04:43.58HarveyDentwell yes I get what you mean I think
04:44.10HarveyDentthey were all, by default (blizz UI) attached to the same frame
04:44.12HarveyDentjust different tabs
04:44.13Diaothey're docked
04:44.16HarveyDentyeah
04:44.22HarveyDentnot separate on the screen
04:44.30HarveyDentall I did with prat was rescale the chat UI
04:44.41HarveyDentand hide tabs
04:44.52HarveyDent...and change font.. heh. alot of stuff actually but yeah. And "TheLowDown" is off
04:44.59HarveyDentand simple chat is off
04:45.16HarveyDentand "Force first chat frame on login" is on in Prat
04:45.21HarveyDentturning that off changes nothing
04:45.35HarveyDent(in my case with this issue that is)
04:45.45Arrowmasterheres an idea, show all the chatframes like normal, group them all together so that theyre all tabs on one frame
04:45.58Arrowmasterthen theres an option in interface options to lock chat settings i think
04:46.15Arrowmasteryou wont be able to switch the tabs then because they wont show on mouseover
04:46.41Arrowmasterthen change your macros to /script FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame1) and /FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame2) and so on
04:46.51HarveyDentoh goodness
04:46.55HarveyDentwow wait
04:46.58Arrowmasterwhich should let you switch the tabs
04:47.08HarveyDentso that script is actually tab switching in code? (script)
04:47.14Arrowmasteryes
04:47.22HarveyDentlike thats "what happens" in the background wen I click on the tabs?
04:47.26Arrowmasteryeah
04:47.33HarveyDentTHAT is exactly what I've been looking for the whole ime
04:47.38Arrowmasteri copied that from prats "Force first chat frame on login"
04:47.41HarveyDentthose scripts were just what I could come up with
04:47.59HarveyDentok let me address whay you typed
04:48.14HarveyDentfirst: my tabs were always "docked" so thats taken care. good there
04:48.21HarveyDentsecond, is "locking" neccessary?
04:48.41Arrowmasterim perty sure theres still something in interface options that locks the chat settings and makes it so you cant get the tabs to show on mouseover
04:48.41HarveyDentI did try that before coming here and it didnt change anyhin
04:48.45HarveyDentyeah thereis
04:48.48HarveyDentit's...
04:48.56HarveyDentwell lol
04:49.01HarveyDentit's "Lock Chat Settings"
04:49.04Arrowmasterthe locked on the individual chat frames just keeps you from moving them
04:49.05HarveyDentwhich btw, is ticked
04:49.12vithosif you have the frames locked, you can't move them.  you can however override the tab show/hide behavior with prat
04:49.17Arrowmasterdo the tabs show up with that option on?
04:49.26HarveyDentwell no because I have them hidden via Prat anyhow
04:49.32Arrowmasterah ok
04:49.33HarveyDentwhich is what I'd like to contnue doing
04:49.50HarveyDentso basically.. let me try that script right quick
04:49.54HarveyDentsee if it does what I need it to do
04:50.00Arrowmasterwell there you go just use /script FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame1)
04:50.06HarveyDenthah
04:50.11HarveyDentok hold on :)
04:50.30ccKep!api SetChatWindowShown
04:50.30ThraeBotccKep: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetChatWindowShown
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04:50.44ccKepwhy the fuck does that function exist if it doesn't even work (atleast for me)
04:50.50Arrowmaster!api FCF_SelectDockFrame
04:50.51ThraeBotArrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FCF_SelectDockFrame
04:51.04Diaoi think
04:51.07Diaothat's a prat function
04:51.09Diaolol
04:51.18HarveyDentI love you
04:51.32HarveyDentthat works and in one line! :)
04:51.51ccKepwhich one Diao?
04:51.57HarveyDentand it doesnt change me to general when I walk say... out of the inn and into the scryer's tier
04:51.59HarveyDentWOOT!
04:52.06HarveyDentThank you arrowmaster
04:52.09Arrowmasternp
04:52.12Diaofcf one
04:52.24HarveyDentyeah diao
04:52.27Arrowmasterthe FCF functions are all from default UI i think
04:52.29HarveyDentarrow said he found that in prat's thing
04:52.35HarveyDentbut I have a feeling that
04:52.39HarveyDentyeah what arrow said
04:52.42Diaoer
04:52.49Diaoi mean it probably repackages a default ui api
04:52.59Arrowmasterjust calls it
04:53.04HarveyDentso arrowmaster: using that command - any conflicts you can think of?
04:53.09HarveyDentissues I'd run into?
04:53.15Arrowmastershouldnt run into any
04:53.27Arrowmastersince its just the code for switching chat tabs
04:53.27HarveyDentok now the ultimate question
04:53.41HarveyDentis there a way to mke a macro button flash like the chat tabs flash
04:53.48HarveyDentlike a... OnEvent do this
04:53.52Arrowmasterdont think so
04:53.57Diaoo_O
04:54.10HarveyDentheh figured as much but thought it might be worth a try
04:54.13Diaoomnicc does some kind of flash
04:54.16Diaowhen cooldowns are ready
04:54.26HarveyDentwould be sweet to get the button to flash if I got a new message in one of those chatframes
04:54.41Arrowmasteri'm guessing youd really like some kinda way to customize the look of the chat tabs and move them seperately from the chatframe
04:54.56HarveyDentYES! Ideally thats what I thought Prat would have done in the first place
04:55.09HarveyDentI was told however, that it isn't possible
04:55.09HarveyDentsomething like that it's blocked or..
04:55.16HarveyDentyou cant move those tabs seperately themselves
04:55.30Arrowmasterprobably something to do with how the default ui functions are
04:55.42HarveyDentthat was my initialy intent was to move the chat tabs
04:55.49Arrowmastercould make a mod to create new ones and keep the old ones hidden
04:55.51HarveyDentI, tbh, like ow this works much better but
04:56.08HarveyDentmayabe a plugin for prat?
04:56.18HarveyDentlike.. something that might sort of blend into the chatframe?
04:56.31HarveyDentsort of how they did the whole "scroll down" Button that flashes at you inside the frame
04:57.26HarveyDentI was honestly surprised that that functionality wasn't in there by default. Especially considering you can alter everything under the sun when it comes o chat frames
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05:07.16ccKep/script BT3Button#.class:StartFlash() starts button flashing... but that doesn't help you much ;)
05:09.51HarveyDentheh
05:10.03HarveyDentmaybei f it's tied to OnEvent ?
05:10.50ccKephttp://ace.pastey.net/72100 << just a quick copy&paste + adjustment of www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1.. dunno if that works/helps
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05:12.40HarveyDentlike: if (OnEvent:message_received) then (/script BT3Button#:class:StartFlash()) also (OnEvent:click_BT3()) then (/script button_flash STOP,etc.) else (don't flash bla bla bla)
05:13.06HarveyDentdamn it looks like I'd need an actual addon to do this
05:13.14HarveyDentnot simply something to toss into the macro
05:13.33HarveyDent(based on what you pasted, ccKep)
05:14.17ccKepyep
05:14.29HarveyDentOT: is there any program (perhaps even shipped with/built-into) OSX that is the equivalent of MS Paint?
05:14.36ccKepatleast if you don't want to push another macro button after every loading screen
05:15.42HarveyDentwell, Idealy, I'd love to see something like... tiny buttons that, when shown, look like a mini actionbar so to speak, that could be docked to either the top, bottom, left, or right of the chatframe, via Prat
05:15.46HarveyDentor detached and draged
05:16.06ccKepnot using prat
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05:16.09HarveyDentI'd put those buttons on the left side of my chatframe via Prat and be done with it
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05:17.23HarveyDentyeah it's minor
05:17.36HarveyDentbut man, it took a while to get something figured out about this lol
05:17.45HarveyDentthanks to you guys though it's all taken care of
05:20.01kergothmeh, i like my scorpid named george.  he's nifty.. but a pain in the butt to work with since claw will prevent him from keeping the poisoin up unless my crit is high enough :\
05:21.22vithosi'd turn off claw for bosses i think
05:21.39vithosit's still higher dps than any other pet with just the poison
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05:22.36kergothyea, true
05:23.29vithosbut i'm going to level a windserpent for the flexibility
05:24.04vithossometimes you just have to pull your pet off or it's going to die
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05:25.30CIA-1403mecdemort * r46323 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/ (. Baggins_AnywhereBags.toc Core.lua embeds.xml lib/): Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Initial commit. Stores alts' banks, bags, mail, and equipment for viewing anywhere.
05:25.44vithosNICE
05:25.51NightHawkTheSanehmm, interesting
05:25.56Mecdemort;p
05:27.15vithosMecdemort: is it functional at all yet, or just laying the foundation?
05:27.48MecdemortIt's functional in that you can view items in Baggins' submenu, still working on creating frames so they look like regular bags
05:28.09vithosoh, kk.  cool :D
05:28.35MecdemortAnd it's got a couple sort types so far.  I'm in the market for features to add
05:28.54vithossearch !
05:29.37Mecdemortprobably wouldnt be too hard
05:29.47HarveyDentckknight: is there any option in Pitbull to make it so that the name of a mob will be truncated if it's longer than a certain number of characters?
05:30.01HarveyDentright now, the name of mobs will overlap the mob's portrait
05:31.29ckknightyes, use :Trunc(num)
05:32.00HarveyDentwhere do I put that? In the name field for text?
05:32.09HarveyDentunder the "TEXT" option, that is
05:32.15Mecdemorthmm I need to make wiki pages for all my addons...
05:34.03HarveyDentok. How about a way to drop it to the next line if it exceeds a number of characters?
05:34.19kergothvithos, hmm, wind serpent might be a better way to go indeed... but i /like/ george, unlike most hunters using scorps :)
05:35.25kergothhmmm
05:35.28vithosWS's have some problems too i've read.  they walk backwards before casting LB or something
05:35.39vithosbut i've never had one
05:36.29sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/72102 I am an evil genius.
05:37.01HarveyDenthrm ok. more importantly: When I use Pitbull on my alt, underneath Global Settings > StatusBar Texture there is only "Blizzard" and "Clio"
05:37.09Diaowtf does blind do
05:37.14HarveyDenthowever, on my main, there are at least 10
05:37.40vithos<3 AutoHotkey.  but what's that do?  just jump forward?
05:37.46Diaolooks like it
05:38.23sag_ich_nichtDiao:  
05:38.23sag_ich_nichtWhen {Blind} is the first item in the string, the program avoids releasing Alt/Control/Shift/Win if they started out in the down position. For example, the hotkey +s::Send {Blind}abc would send ABC rather than abc because the user is holding down the Shift key.
05:38.42HarveyDentand,,, lol
05:38.55HarveyDentthen/
05:39.23ArrowmasterHarveyDent: install the addon SharedMedia
05:40.35sag_ich_nicht[07:37] <vithos> <3 AutoHotkey.  but what's that do?  just jump forward? <--jump far forward with F7, jump short forward with ctrl + F7.
05:40.47MecdemortIn an AceOptions table, will get default to false if I dont define it?
05:41.20sag_ich_nichtand do so perfectly, everytime, even out of the stand.
05:42.33sag_ich_nichtif you don't see the use for that, don't ask why i created it. :P
05:42.35Diaostand?
05:42.43sag_ich_nichtas in, when you stand still.
05:42.59sag_ich_nichtwithout moving you before the jump at all
05:43.11sylvanaarHarveyDent have you seen chatbar?
05:43.28HarveyDentI used that quite a while ago. I was not happy with it
05:43.32Diaooh
05:43.41HarveyDentyou do Prat though right?
05:44.01sylvanaarsometimes
05:44.04HarveyDentheh
05:44.21HarveyDentwell, arrowmaster found in your code that whole fcf thing for toggling chatframes
05:44.27HarveyDentwhich apparently comes from the default UI
05:44.53HarveyDentso what I did was make a very small, scaled down, new actiobar via bt3 and just made macros for each chatframe and put the buttons on the hotbar
05:45.08HarveyDentI've made it vertial and put it on the left of the chatframe (Prat)
05:45.21HarveyDentI gotta say though, that sort of functionality built in would be sweet
05:45.52HarveyDentI do this because the chat tabs are hidden via Prat. but I utilize multiple chatframes
05:46.37sylvanaarwrite a prat module for it, its pretty easy - theres a template in the extras folder you just do a find/replace
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05:47.19HarveyDentwhat would I be finding/replacing? heh
05:47.24HarveyDentjust the script?
05:47.38sylvanaarthe name and stuff
05:47.49HarveyDentideally, there would be a bar that could be docked to the chat frame top, left, bottom, or right (or undocked altogether)
05:48.01sylvanaarright, thats more complicated
05:48.04HarveyDentthe name and.. I'm soryr I'm a bit lost heh
05:48.23HarveyDentlet me find that template first to se what you'r talking about
05:49.45Mecdemorti wish there was a better way to search through a nested table than a million for loops
05:50.01HarveyDentok yeah looking at that presets.lua file is giving me a headache lol
05:50.04HarveyDentgodbless programmers
05:50.24sylvanaarits just people's saved variables pasted in
05:50.36HarveyDentI wouldn't even know where to begin. because in my mind, I'd just delete all that stuff and be like ... /script FCF_lablabla
05:50.51HarveyDentoh I see
05:51.05HarveyDentand what would that achieve for me?
05:51.10HarveyDent(really, asking)
05:51.20sylvanaarpresets?
05:51.34HarveyDentwell yeah  mean,.. I think you mean I could make my own.. "option" ?
05:51.36sylvanaari was suggesting looking at blank_module.lua
05:51.40HarveyDentoh
05:51.46HarveyDentthats not in the extras folder then under Prat
05:51.54HarveyDentthere's just "Presets.lua"
05:52.02sylvanaaryou sure
05:52.14HarveyDentah ok
05:52.20HarveyDentroot prat > extras
05:52.26HarveyDentwent to Prat_modules then extras
05:52.55HarveyDentso ok I see what you mean now.. this then WOULD make some sort of module show up in the options list on right click on Prat
05:53.00HarveyDentok cool but
05:53.18HarveyDentyou're suggesting I paste in the /script from above to do the whole channel flipping thing - but ...
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05:53.31HarveyDenthow would I .. "see" that? as in, an interface
05:53.45HarveyDentjust keep opening the prat right click options menu?
05:55.08HarveyDentsorry if I seem a bit daft I just don't follow, honestly :)
05:56.27sylvanaarwell, there is sample code in the comments
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05:58.24Mecdemortdoes lua have the ability to make macros?
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06:01.04HarveyDentwell I will take a look at it :)
06:01.09HarveyDentThanks sylvanaar
06:01.41sylvanaarsure
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06:07.37sag_ich_nicht...bad numblock, don't do that.
06:08.40Mecdemortis string.find case sensitive?
06:13.29HarveyDentoh yeah
06:13.33HarveyDentuhm..
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06:14.04HarveyDentArrowmaster
06:14.39HarveyDentHow would it be possible for Pitbull to be installed in my addons folder and then, one one character on the same account, not have access to different bar styles
06:14.45HarveyDentbut on the other, have more bar styles?
06:14.56HarveyDentthis is the case and I think you suggested to install SharedMedia but..
06:14.57AntiarcSharedMedia
06:15.04HarveyDentif those come from SharedMedi and I have them on my main
06:15.14AntiarcIs SharedMedia enabled for the alt?
06:15.15HarveyDentwouldn't that mean my alt has them too?
06:15.29HarveyDentI thnk so.. I didnt realize it was something to "enable"
06:15.33HarveyDentthought it was built in
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06:15.34AntiarcIt's just another addon
06:15.38AntiarcSo you need to make sure it's turned on
06:15.40HarveyDentyeah I didn't download that
06:15.45HarveyDent(I don't think)
06:15.48HarveyDentlet me check
06:15.49WALoeIIISo I realize this isn't a help channel, but I figure a bunch of people in here probably already use Pitbull
06:16.00WALoeIIIis it possible to get a numerical value for health on party/raid frames?
06:16.06HarveyDentyes
06:16.10AntiarcSure
06:16.12WALoeIIIand could this be an issue with mobhealth/info?
06:16.22HarveyDentcheck under uhm.. All Units
06:16.26HarveyDentthen go to "Texts"
06:16.34HarveyDentthen go to health and power respectively
06:16.39WALoeIIIcorrect
06:16.41HarveyDentmake sure they are enabled for each
06:16.44WALoeIIII have tried all the options
06:16.50HarveyDentdid you try each one then?
06:16.55WALoeIIIand I see Cur/Max for mana/rage/energ
06:16.59HarveyDentlike Player and Target?
06:17.00WALoeIIIbut it never works for HP
06:17.04HarveyDenthrm
06:17.10WALoeIIIplayer and target work
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06:17.17CIA-14Numen:
06:17.17CIA-14- Add locale koKR
06:17.19WALoeIIIbut part/raid all I can get is defecit HP
06:17.21HarveyDentah I see
06:17.28HarveyDentlet me look at the option
06:17.35HarveyDentit works for e
06:17.38WALoeIIII want to use the "Informative" style
06:17.47WALoeIIII'm gong to try disabling MobHealth, it might be a conflict with that
06:18.13HarveyDentthzat would be a start yeah
06:18.21HarveyDentOk Arrowmaster
06:18.24HarveyDent(and others)
06:18.29HarveyDentI don't have SharedMedia installed
06:18.38HarveyDentbut I can still see the bar styles in Pitbull on my main
06:18.59Arrowmasterother addons add textures too
06:19.03HarveyDentIs it possible another addon I am using is enabled on my main that isn't on my alt and... somehow Pitbull is seeing that library there?
06:19.12Arrowmasterbut shared media should have most of them
06:19.23sylvanaarif you use embedded libraries yeah
06:19.25HarveyDentyeah I have Omen on my main but not on my alt
06:19.27CIA-1403morgalm * r46325 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc):
06:19.27CIA-14MorgBid:
06:19.27CIA-14- Fixed bidwar mode so bids will not get confused anymore with multiitem auctions
06:19.48Xinhuanhmm WAU didn't install Special-Auras and metrognome automatically :(
06:19.50Xinhuan(for parrot)
06:20.01HarveyDentit's because it uses embeds.xml
06:20.02HarveyDentor..
06:20.04HarveyDentwait
06:20.15Xinhuanthe embeds.xml didn't list them i think
06:20.30HarveyDentno but there is a file that does though
06:20.39HarveyDentsomething about.. Daveish on AtlasLoot talked about it
06:20.40Arrowmasterall addons that use sharedmedialib are allowed to register textures included with them in sharedmedialib, but theres also sharedmedia which is just a dummy addon to register a bunch of textures with sharedmedialib
06:20.59HarveyDenthe had to change how AtlasLoot "worked" via WAU because MacAceUpdater doesn't recognize a file
06:21.03HarveyDentlike... filelist
06:21.05HarveyDentor something
06:21.05CIA-1403morgalm * r46326 10MorgDKP/ (8 files):
06:21.05CIA-14MorgDKP:
06:21.05CIA-14- Fixed bidwar mode to record maxbids properly
06:21.05CIA-14- code touchup
06:21.27HarveyDentso it never unpacked the addon correctly
06:21.59HarveyDent@arrowmaster: is it possible to cut and paste the sharedmedialib into my alt's Pitbull folder?
06:22.02HarveyDentand call it a day?
06:22.16Arrowmasterjust install the sharedmedia addon
06:22.16HarveyDenttomato, tomatoe
06:22.19sylvanaarjust get a copy of it and put it in your addons folder
06:22.25hasteI wouldn't recommend cutting
06:22.27HarveyDentfair enough
06:22.35HarveyDenthaste, lol copy and paste
06:22.37hastecopy and paste would be possible if it attempts to load it at all tho'
06:22.42sylvanaarget a zipped copy
06:23.37Arrowmasteryouve got some other addon thats registering textures with sharedmedialib so you either need to enable that addon or enable another addon (sharedmedia) that will register textures with sharedmedialib
06:27.41HarveyDentyeah
06:27.46HarveyDentI found out it was oRA2
06:28.05HarveyDentI just copied all of it's tga files into Pitbull and it's working
06:28.15art3misanyone remember what to do with the cat figurines in darkshore?
06:28.15Arrowmasterreally?
06:28.16HarveyDentbut I am going to install that addon though, SharedMedia
06:28.22Arrowmasterit shouldnt work that way
06:28.44NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: what do you mean "what to do" with them?
06:29.09art3miswell my brain says you gather a few then go to this other statue and kill the create and get a 3 use cat pet
06:29.48art3miscreate== creature
06:30.04art3misis that right?
06:30.28HarveyDentoh lol Arrowmaster - I just had oRA2 enabled by accident. You're right - it didn't work
06:30.42HarveyDentah well. I'll just install that addon
06:30.48HarveyDentSharedMedia
06:30.54art3misoh no im wrong
06:30.56art3misnm
06:31.03NightHawkTheSaneah, i don't know much about that, but i think when looting the figurines, randomly a cat will spawn and attack you, and it randomly will drop a consumable item that summons the cat as a combat pet.
06:31.22art3misyeah
06:31.24art3misjust read that
06:31.44art3misi have one on my undead p[riest when i went over here for the tailoring pattern
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06:31.46CIA-14Numen:
06:31.46CIA-14- Update locale koKR
06:32.34NightHawkTheSanei've got the cat as a pet on my hunter
06:36.22Xinhuanwhich addonloader addon is recommended these days?
06:36.29durcynaddonloader.
06:40.33Diaoi must have
06:40.36Diaoterrible luck against mages
06:40.47Diaoeverytime they FN me they get 2 or 3 crit icelances
06:40.49Diaobefore it breaks
06:40.49Diao:\
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06:43.36CIA-1403daviesh * r46328 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua:
06:43.36CIA-14AtlasLoot:
06:43.36CIA-14- Fixed a typo that was stopping the rep factions from being available in the loot browser
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06:58.02ccKepsomeone here who killed mother shahraz?
06:58.35sag_ich_nichtno but ask anyway.
06:58.52ccKepwell, I'm faaaar away from here... but I'm always curious
06:59.01ccKepjust read: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mother_Shahraz
06:59.15sag_ich_nichtalso
06:59.20ccKepso, she has this beam ability, fatal attraction, a cleave and the shield?
06:59.29sag_ich_nichtlol@blizzard making shattered halls even easier in 2.2
06:59.59NightHawkTheSanehow are they changing sh?
07:00.19ccKepaccording to the wiki: lash doing 84k to everyone affected, making immune to beam & fatal attraction
07:00.22sag_ich_nichtlowering damage from the mobs NightHawkTheSane
07:00.30ccKepso why not clumb up in front of her?
07:01.16ccKep84k / 25 = only 3360 to everyone ^.^
07:01.32Diaohmm
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07:01.38DiaoREMOVED - SetActionSelfCastKey
07:01.39sag_ich_nichtbecause 3360 still hurt a clothy.
07:01.45Diaodoes this mean we can't use self-cast based on a button anymore?
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07:01.55sag_ich_nichtno, read on.
07:02.11ccKepsag_ich_nicht: those are unmitigrated values anyway
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07:02.20sag_ich_nichtthey just changed the names of the functions iirc.
07:02.23ccKepeven clothies have 10% mitigration, so it's rougly exact 3k
07:02.53ccKepguess the wiki is missing some informations :/
07:04.01sag_ich_nichtwell duh.
07:06.51CIA-1403mecdemort * r46329 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Added search function. Search by itemID, itemString, itemName, itemLink, or regex pattern.
07:21.27CIA-1403celellach * r46330 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua):
07:21.27CIA-14AtlasLoot:
07:21.27CIA-14- Card game update
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07:21.30CIA-14AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
07:21.30CIA-14- Card game update
07:22.02CIA-1403celellach * r46332 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:
07:22.03CIA-14AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
07:22.03CIA-14- loot update
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07:29.43HarveyDentnew UI
07:29.45HarveyDenthttp://ctscreens.net/8483
07:30.01HarveyDentthanks to pitbull, prat, omnicc, omen, and bt3
07:30.06HarveyDentand fubar
07:30.16Diaono names
07:30.19Diaoon the frames o_O
07:30.23HarveyDentand simpleminimap
07:30.25Diaoor numbers
07:30.41HarveyDentoh those were edited out lol
07:30.46Diaooh
07:30.47Diaolol
07:30.48HarveyDenteveryone else does it for whatever reason
07:30.49Diaoi was gonna say
07:30.52Diaohow do you play without them
07:31.01HarveyDentso I just dindtk now if it was tacky to NOT edit names out
07:31.01NightHawkTheSaneDiao: he's just that good. ;)
07:31.12HarveyDenthehe
07:31.20HarveyDentany feedback?
07:31.20NightHawkTheSaneHarveyDent: people probably do it out of respect for the privacy of others
07:31.29HarveyDentyeah I figured as much
07:31.40HarveyDentI just didn't know if I should or not so went with the safe route
07:31.46HarveyDentdoubt they'll ever see it
07:31.48HarveyDentbut whatever ;)
07:31.49NightHawkTheSaneof course, that assumes that your average wow player even knows what respect means, which I highly doubt, but.. >.>
07:32.13HarveyDentAlthough I did forget to get rid of the warriors nam in the chat frame
07:32.17HarveyDentand the hunter's name in pet
07:32.19HarveyDentah well
07:32.22HarveyDentI tried lol
07:32.36HarveyDentOH! and looking at that ss now..
07:32.53HarveyDentI know for whatever reason the author has posted that the r number wont be removed from the omen frame until it's final
07:32.54HarveyDentbut..
07:32.56HarveyDentcome on
07:32.59HarveyDentthere HAS to be a way to do it
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07:33.16HarveyDentI've searched all over via google and came up with nothing
07:33.17NightHawkTheSaneyou'd have to edit the code
07:33.26HarveyDentWhere would I find that? I tried that too
07:33.30HarveyDentand couldnt find it anywhere
07:33.44NightHawkTheSanei haven't bothered looking, so I don't know.
07:33.52CIA-1403celellach * r46333 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua:
07:33.52CIA-14AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
07:33.52CIA-14- loot update
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07:36.08HarveyDentso the only issue I have now is ClosetGnome gatherer not working at all
07:36.13HarveyDentthen my UI will be complete
07:36.21vhaarrit works, just not the way you want it to
07:36.53HarveyDentI don't see it in the options list anywhere under closetgnome
07:37.26HarveyDentI can't specify an "outfit" for it, it never works when I try and loot a node that is red to me even though I have +10 herbalism on my gloves
07:37.36HarveyDentIs there something I need to "turn on"?
07:37.53vhaarryou're at max skill, right?
07:38.03HarveyDentno
07:38.13HarveyDentI tested it out on a new character
07:38.29vhaarrthen I have no idea, the guy who made it was quite silly tbh
07:38.33HarveyDentI could not loot a herb without the gloves on, but could loot it with the gloves on
07:38.48HarveyDentwhat if I am max skill? what then?
07:43.40HarveyDentckknight: as a rogue, whenever I highlight a target that I have not yet begun to attack, the energy meter on my playerframe begins to tick, showing the moving spark as if it's thinking I am spending energy
07:43.46HarveyDentis that as designed?
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07:44.21ckknightyes.
07:44.31HarveyDentah ok. What's the purpose of that?
07:44.31ckknightso you can hit at the right moment
07:44.33HarveyDentooc
07:44.35AntiarcHarveyDent: It's so that you can time ticks.
07:44.37HarveyDentAH
07:44.41HarveyDentyeah ok that makes sense
07:44.44AntiarcStunlock combos and the like.
07:44.48HarveyDentyeah for sure
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07:44.59AntiarcAlso, lawls.
07:45.02AntiarcI just did a pair of WSGs
07:45.07AntiarcNobody in there had any arena gear
07:45.10AntiarcI tore crap UP.
07:45.12AntiarcIt was awesome
07:45.15HarveyDentare you a rogue?
07:45.17Antiarcyeah
07:45.22HarveyDentsee  I need arena gear
07:45.29HarveyDenthonestly - how long did it take you?
07:45.39AntiarcI've been arenaing for a while now
07:45.42HarveyDentfigure someone who works 8 hoours a day and gets in at 7 PM EST
07:45.42AntiarcStarted middle of season 1
07:45.50AntiarcWell, you only need 10 games per week
07:45.52HarveyDentwould it take that person long to get some gear?
07:45.57HarveyDentreally? win or lose?
07:46.00AntiarcEither
07:46.04HarveyDentpfft really??
07:46.06odtarena is not about how often you play, but how well
07:46.06AntiarcYou need 10 games per week total
07:46.15AntiarcYou win or lose points based on matches you win or lose
07:46.21HarveyDentah you cn lose points
07:46.25AntiarcEvery week, you get a certain number of arena points based on your rating
07:46.25AntiarcYes
07:46.35HarveyDentso you have to do somewhat "well"
07:46.45odtit took us 2 months to get or rating from 1500 to 1900 in 5v5
07:46.45AntiarcA team that wins 50% takes 2-3 weeks to get an offhand or gloves
07:46.54HarveyDentwhats all this talk I hear about people saying arena is EZmode gear? That you can just lose all the time and still get good stuff?
07:47.00AntiarcYou can, yes
07:47.15odtyou just won't get as many points per week when you lose all the time
07:47.20AntiarcRight
07:47.22odtsince your rating will be somewhat bad
07:47.26AntiarcSo it takes you more weeks to get gear
07:47.47HarveyDentdo you find it takes roughly exactly a weeks total plus another weeks total to get an item?
07:47.55HarveyDentor would you, say, get an item sooner if they did it like honor
07:48.03HarveyDentwhere it updated and added to your total points every day
07:48.12AntiarcWell, you'd get it sooner, but that wouldn't make a lot of sense
07:48.17AntiarcSince the whole thing is competitive, rather than absolute
07:48.22HarveyDenttrue
07:48.24HarveyDentgood point
07:48.41HarveyDentI'd need a MH
07:48.48HarveyDentyeah the arena OH is nice
07:48.52HarveyDentbut my MH is only 71.8 DPS
07:48.59HarveyDentwhile my OH is 81.5
07:49.03AntiarcWhat spec?
07:49.05HarveyDent(scryers rep dagger)
07:49.08HarveyDent15/41/5
07:49.10HarveyDentcombat daggers
07:49.19AntiarcHow fast is the scryer rep dagger?
07:49.24HarveyDent1.5 I think
07:49.32HarveyDentwhile my MH is 1.
07:49.35AntiarcMay be worth the upgrade to the shiv then
07:49.35HarveyDent1.8 or 1.9
07:49.38HarveyDentyeah?
07:49.42AntiarcYeah, the MH
07:49.48HarveyDentoh oh the MH
07:49.50AntiarcRight
07:49.51HarveyDentyeah I agree for sur
07:50.01AntiarcI'm combat fists. Love it.
07:50.08HarveyDentyeah I hear good stuff about comb fists
07:50.09AntiarcPlus, the arena fists look damn cool.
07:50.15HarveyDentyeah and that too lol
07:50.24HarveyDentI have to be raid spec for my guild so
07:50.27HarveyDent15/41/5 it is
07:50.30AntiarcWell
07:50.38AntiarcCombat daggers sorta lags behind combat swords/fists these days
07:50.39HarveyDentalthough I hear good stuff about 19/42/0 too
07:50.43AntiarcYeah
07:51.02AntiarcSwords is really pretty OP right now, though the 2.2 change + the windfury nerf is bringing it back in line
07:51.19HarveyDentyeah there's a comb sword rogue on my server (Velth) that averages about 1600 DPS in a raid
07:51.23HarveyDentit's retarded.
07:51.51HarveyDentI push 600 as comb daggers
07:52.15HarveyDentthough I push near 700-800 depending on buffs and gear
07:52.55ckknightAntiarc: just wait till Death Knights, then you'll just be obselete!
07:53.02HarveyDentheh
07:53.06Antiarcckknight: Unless I roll one! :V
07:53.11ckknightlol
07:53.18AntiarcI'm running about 1200 DPS sustained on SSC fights right now
07:53.27AntiarcBut we're a relatively low-geared group
07:53.35AntiarcDoing Vashj for the first time tomorrow
07:53.40HarveyDentgrats
07:53.41HarveyDentfun fight
07:53.49AntiarcVR down, of course, but haven't put much time into TK beyond that.
07:54.07HarveyDentnice :) we just downed VR ourselves
07:54.19HarveyDentdidnt spend a ton of time in TK eye
07:54.31HarveyDentspent it all on SSC for loot so now it's TK eye for us
07:56.07HarveyDentckknight: aware of any addons that might make a macro button flash if a message is caught in a specific chatframe?
07:56.09Mecdemortis there any way to modify the tooltip when mousing over an item with AceOptions
07:56.15ckknightno
07:56.20Mecdemortpoop
07:56.45ckknightwell, no to both
07:57.10Mecdemortwtb desc taking a function
07:57.21DiaoAntiarc for sanity any idea why when i mouseover an item it shows how many are in the inventory/bank/bags/alt etc but if i use the sanity inventory itself it doesn't?
07:57.28CIA-1403candykiss * r46334 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (22 files in 2 dirs):
07:57.28CIA-14Cartographer_QuestInfo: initial commit
07:57.28CIA-14- Quest data library for Cartographer, contains zhCN quest date only for now
07:57.28CIA-14- Originally posted at http://bbs.cwowaddon.com/thread-1157-1-1.html, I just maintain the version with externals on SVN
07:57.44AntiarcDiao: It should. If not, it's a bug or conflict with another mod.
07:58.22ckknightMecdemort: not happening, what you're doing is out of sope
07:58.24ckknightscope*
07:58.26Diaohm ok
07:59.01Diaomust be a conflict
07:59.10Diaoall i see is the name of the item, character, and location
07:59.55Mecdemortckknight: ya i know
08:00.08CIA-1403ammo * r46335 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: bugfix logic for getting lockpicking rank and box detection
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08:01.08Diaoi'll try enabling only sanity
08:01.09Diaoand see
08:02.46HarveyDentoh yeah. I tried out incubator..
08:02.52HarveyDentdoes that thing even work?
08:03.09HarveyDentI did a full five mech runs last night and didn't get a timer to come up at all for repops
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08:06.24CIA-1403cwdg * r46336 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW local for PT
08:06.28CIA-1403candykiss * r46337 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/:
08:06.28CIA-14Cartographer_QuestInfo:
08:06.28CIA-14- set externals
08:06.48Diaomech has repops?
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08:09.33siIentiumhm, cant remember if incubator ever showed me timers for non-raid instances - and even there, it only shows them once they go below 1 hour by default (which can be changed)
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08:14.24Grum_ScheduleRepeatingEvent Ace2 or blizz buildin? :/ .. and any easy way to find that kind of stuff out?
08:16.13Grum_hmmm i'll define 'anything that looks cool' as Ace2 .. seems i'm right most of the times hehe
08:16.14attumenIs it possible , that the Bigwigs-VersionQuery doesn't  show versions, that are very old?
08:17.47attumenlike bw33913?
08:19.28siIentiumI dont know for sure (I'm only a user), but could imagine that those very old versions dont support the version query yet, so they dont answer it and dont get listed
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08:22.34attumeni think that they changed the version query some rev ago, but i can't understand lua yet ;)
08:22.43Neeblerahahaha http://www.ugo.com/a/2007-fall-tv-guide/?cur=chuck
08:22.58Neeblerand your level 89 Druid is missing his Stone of Jordan.
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08:28.59ckknightGrum: that's part of Ace2
08:31.29Grum_humz all of the sudden Graph-1.0 is giving me a pain .. it has this nice 'lets do special' before initializing and for whatever reason it keeps giving me an error :/
08:31.36Grum_local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0),"AddOns\\(.+)Graph%-1%.0\\").."GraphTextures\\"
08:33.45Grum_strange thing is that Recount has it set up the exact same way .. and that works :)
08:35.18Grum_btw ckknight it seems to be 'not that easy' to draw anything on the minimap/worldmap .. the amount of stuff you are hooking and events you are trapping is .. well .. much more than i expected :)
08:35.30ckknighttrue.
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08:37.58Grum_is there any way for me to use what you have already done or will this be a case of 'code duplication' ?
08:38.42HarveyDentOne thing I just found with Prat is that when I click on my macro buttons to change tabs (as discussed earlier), the chat buttons (scroll down, up, bottom) flash in briefly
08:39.07HarveyDentAny way to fix that?
08:39.14HarveyDentor change an option so they never appear, ever?
08:43.57HarveyDenthttp://ctscreens.net/8484
08:44.00HarveyDentthis is an example
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08:51.39Fisker-oh nevermind >:(
08:51.52Fisker-thought i just saw a blue geared priest in tier 5 :P
08:51.56Fisker-was just arena 2
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08:53.13Grum_*rha* .. who made Graph-1.0! ;D
08:53.59Grum_Cryect: for when you wake up the following piece of code is broken when you have a 'long' addon name
08:54.00Grum_local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0),"AddOns\\(.+)Graph%-1%.0\\").."GraphTextures\\"
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08:54.25Grum_the string i was matching against was: ...Ons\\Cartographer_Routes\\Libs\Graph-1.0
08:55.45Grum_i have no idea why you dont put the 'artwork' in your addondir but it was somewhat nasty to track down and will break for me in any future version :D
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08:58.25Daemonahrm someone broke the prototype.lua in bigwigs in the latest commit
08:58.38Grum_svn blamelog? :)
08:58.54Daemonacwdg with his zhTW update probably
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09:05.59cncfanaticsgood morning everyone
09:08.55Fisker-around cncfanatics never relax?
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09:10.56cncfanaticshmmm, what u talking about ?
09:11.04cncfanaticshavent been around yesterday afternoon (my time) at all
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09:15.36cncfanaticsany US player around ?
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09:29.45CIA-1403diablohu * r46340 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua:
09:29.45CIA-14AtlasLoot:
09:29.46CIA-14- update zhCN
09:29.50cncfanaticswhats the difference between SetBindingClick and SetOverrideBindingClick ?
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09:32.23Nargiddleyset override is temporary, doesnt get saved and can be removed
09:34.33Grum_is there any way i can get the name of a frame which i can only see?
09:35.14Grum_there was some /script thingie with mouseover orso O.o
09:35.18Arrowmastermouseover and type /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
09:36.01cncfanaticshow to remove them, Nargiddley ?
09:36.34Grum_thanks Arrowmaster
09:36.39cncfanaticsand how to use the command, what does owner & isPriority stand for ?
09:36.53Arrowmasterowner is a frame
09:37.16cncfanaticsand isPriority ?
09:37.35Nargiddleytheres something like ClearOverrideBindingClick
09:37.45Nargiddleycant remember the exact name
09:37.55Arrowmasterremove using a generic function like ClearOverrideBinding(owner)
09:37.59cncfanatics!api ClearOverideBindings();
09:37.59ThraeBotcncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverideBindings();
09:38.31cncfanaticsNargiddley, could you please point me to the Waterfall object for keybindings ?
09:38.34Arrowmasteri think priority is just something for which override binding should take effect if more than 1 are
09:38.36cncfanaticsthink there was a special kind of text fields ?
09:38.46cncfanaticsArrowmaster, cant they just all take effect ?
09:38.50Arrowmaster!api ClearOverrideBindings()
09:38.51ThraeBotArrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings()
09:39.00cncfanatics!api ClearOverrideBindings
09:39.01ThraeBotcncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings
09:39.11Arrowmastercncfanatics: not on the same key
09:39.24cncfanaticsah I see
09:39.34cncfanaticsif there is no priority, does the last one set take effect ?
09:39.42Arrowmasterno clue
09:40.32Arrowmastercheckout my addon GoldenRun on the svn
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09:40.45Arrowmasterit does override bindings
09:40.56Nargiddleycncfanatics, type 'keybind' is for keybindings
09:41.04cncfanaticsthank you Nargiddley
09:41.35cncfanaticsArrowmaster, SetOverrideBindingClick(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "ButtoName"[,"mouseButton"]), sure owner is a frame ? as it also needs the buttonname as param its weird
09:42.15Arrowmasterthats for making a keybinding to clicking a button
09:42.23Arrowmasteror i guess frame
09:42.42Nargiddleycncfanatics, owner doesnt have to be the button
09:42.49cncfanaticsgood
09:42.58Arrowmasterim sure owner is a frame, i had issues with getting it working until somebody told me that
09:43.12cncfanaticswhy would it ask for both the frame and the frame's name ?
09:43.16cncfanaticssounds illogical to me
09:43.18Arrowmasterowner is just a frame thats used as a reference for clearing the bindings
09:43.21Nargiddleyyeah i'm sending a frame as the owner
09:43.27Nargiddleybut its not the button
09:43.44Nargiddleywell not all the time
09:43.44cncfanaticsI have kinda no frames around except the button
09:43.47Arrowmasterits not asking for the frame name, just the frame
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09:43.58cncfanatics"ButtoName"
09:44.04Nargiddleyjust give the button then
09:44.05cncfanaticsthats the frame name if i'm not mistaking ?
09:44.41cncfanaticsguess i'll create one master frame as owner
09:44.43Arrowmasterthat seems odd
09:44.47cncfanatics!api CreateFrame
09:44.48ThraeBotcncfanatics: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]);  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
09:44.55Nargiddley"ButtonName" is the button that will be pressed, owner is a frame that is used to reference the binding later
09:45.07Nargiddleyit could be the button
09:45.12cncfanaticsguess its good to have all buttons have the same owner then :)
09:45.13Arrowmastersince if your frame might not be named
09:45.26Arrowmastercncfanatics: what are you using this for?
09:45.38Nargiddleyall the same owner means you can clear it in one call
09:45.43cncfanaticsFlexBar2 button keybindings, Arrowmaster
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09:45.54cncfanaticsNargiddley, hmmm, I dont want that
09:45.58Nargiddleywhy use override then ?
09:46.02Arrowmasterdont use overridebindings for it then
09:46.22Arrowmasteroverride is for when you want to bind something then remove it and go back to the original binding
09:46.27cncfanaticsframes are dynamic
09:46.33cncfanaticsbindings shouldnt be saved, frames dont have fixed names
09:46.56Arrowmasterhmm
09:46.58NargiddleyI use it for the assist keybindings in MainAssist, since i'm changing it alot
09:47.06cncfanaticsSetBindingClick would just create unneeded overhead by trying to save it imo
09:47.44cncfanaticstbh, as frame name I just use FB2_ followed by the UID of the object's table
09:47.56cncfanaticsas those functions always ask for a frame name :p
09:48.05cncfanaticsSetOverrideBindingClick(self.Frame, nil, Key, self.Frame:GetName()) is my current code
09:48.17cncfanaticslooks fine except its silly to pass both the frame & its name -.-
09:48.27Nargiddleywell thats the api :P
09:48.56Arrowmasterthe owner has nothing to do with what the binding actually does
09:49.14cncfanaticsits good to have the button as owner imo
09:49.19cncfanaticsso if I want to set a new binding, I can clear it
09:49.21cncfanaticsand set a new one
09:49.35cncfanaticsClearOverrideBindings(self.Frame); SetOverrideBindingClick(self.Frame, nil, Key, self.Frame:GetName()); is my current code now
09:50.02Nargiddleywell thats the reason for passing it twice, for the way i use it a single owner for all was better
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09:50.41Nargiddleysince i have alot of frames, and only a couple get bindings
09:51.03cncfanaticswell, I dont know how much are going to get a binding, up to the user
09:51.10cncfanaticsmight be all, might be one out of 200
09:51.36Nargiddleywell for me it was 4 out of 3*num of tanks always
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09:53.45cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72105 should do I supose ?
09:53.51cncfanaticsas SetBinding function for my objects
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10:17.25Grum_Can I using /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() also get the name of the parent frame?
10:17.42Grum_wondering how the interitance is for the WorldMap frame
10:18.40NargiddleyGetMouseFocus():GetParent():GetName() will work
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10:43.27cncfanaticsofc it is
10:43.43cncfanaticsFisker-, xloot has a new feature to block not work on the accounts of irc trolls xD
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10:49.25Fisker-nooo cncfanatics
10:49.28Fisker-because it works
10:49.34Fisker-so owned
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10:57.29cncfanaticsFisker-, it'll be included soon then !
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11:07.43CIA-1403borlox * r46342 10Knowledge-1.0/ (Knowledge-1.0/Knowledge-1.0.lua Knowledge-1.0.toc):
11:07.44CIA-14Knowledge-1.0:
11:07.44CIA-14- added :OpenKnowledgeBase(categoryOrArticle, subCategory)
11:07.44CIA-14- changed :GetCategoryIdByName to use a more efficient way to get the id.
11:07.44CIA-14- added some toc data
11:08.55CIA-1403borlox * r46343 10NCHide/ (6 files):
11:08.55CIA-14NCHide:
11:08.55CIA-14- added Knowledge-1.0 to the externals
11:08.55CIA-14- added a knowledge base article. Use the "Help" button in the menu to show it.
11:10.21cncfanaticsNargiddley, u here ?
11:11.51Fisker-oh u
11:15.40Nargiddleycncfanatics, yeah
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11:19.23cncfanaticsnvm, I made a mistake myself, sigh :(
11:21.40AwaaCan you make crits not have that chaking anim in MSBT?
11:21.41CIA-1403ominous * r46344 10Cartographer_Data/ (3 files): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update
11:22.55cncfanaticsdownload parrot instead ? :p
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11:24.23cncfanaticsNargiddley, pressing escape when having a 'keybind' control active will not clear it, just unselect it
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11:27.41ckknightalright, I finally got the tree part working for JokerConfig
11:27.44Nargiddleycncfanatics, it will call your set func with nil when esc is pressed, up to you to clear it
11:27.54ckknightstill have the internal stuff, though
11:28.01ckknightbah
11:28.33cncfanaticsNargiddley, I see
11:28.55cncfanaticsNargiddley, my setFunc should clear it
11:29.05cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
11:29.20cncfanaticssure it calls getFunc after correctly ?
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11:30.06winkillerjokerconfig?
11:30.12Nargiddleyhm its calling it, might be ignoring a nil return tho :/
11:30.34cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72106 is my waterfall for keybindings
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11:30.55winkillerbtw, is there any wiki page I missed for: "don't miss out on these cool new features/packages"?
11:30.56cncfanaticsonly the Action == "edit" part is important
11:31.23winkillersomething like: addon A was newly introduced, addon b got major bugfixes, addon c got many new features
11:31.27Nargiddleycncfanatics, try that
11:31.33CIA-1403nargiddley * r46346 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: nil returned from a keybind get will clear it
11:31.54cncfanaticsthank you
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11:49.45baer_hmm...
11:50.19baer_Error: unexpected symbol near '}' File: Interface\Addons\BigWips\Prototype.lua Line: 72 Count: 1
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11:57.00SaryaiSomeone tell me what I'm doing wrong here? http://ace.pastey.net/72109
11:57.29SaryaiGetting an attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value)
11:57.48SaryaiAnd I have a feeling it's something reeeealy dumb that I did.
11:58.12Saryai(Whoops, 'char' not 'profile')
11:59.00Arrowmasterwhat line does the error say?
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11:59.39Saryai15.
12:00.24cncfanaticsOminous, ping
12:00.29Arrowmastertry moving 15-17 into an oninit
12:00.57Arrowmastersavedvars might now be ready yet at doing it that way
12:01.00Arrowmasternot
12:01.06SaryaiAlright. Trying that.
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12:06.41SaryaiWeird.
12:06.45Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72110
12:06.56SaryaiGIR-10001\Core.lua:20: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "CHAT_MSG_GUILD" to method "CHAT_MSG_GUILD", it does not exist
12:07.54Arrowmasterneed to define the function GIR:CHAT_MSG_GUILD()
12:08.38SaryaiAh, that'd be why it stopped working. I took out the function a while back. >.<
12:09.18Arrowmasteryou probably want to do 'local g1, g2, ch' before the OnEnable
12:09.27Arrowmasterand remove the locals from the last lines of the onenable
12:10.23SaryaiYeah. Just a quick copy/paste to get that error out of the way. Thanks.
12:11.01Arrowmasterand are you calling fuctions as addon.method() there instead of addon:method()?
12:11.47SaryaiNah, my functions are addon:method().
12:12.14ArrowmasterGIR.RegisterComm
12:12.21ArrowmasterGIR.StatusReady()
12:12.25SaryaiCourse, that could be a possibility... I was writing this after 30+ awake hours.
12:12.32Arrowmasterheh
12:13.08Arrowmasteryeah i was up for about the same then got like 5 hours of sleep yesterday
12:13.19SaryaiYeah.
12:13.27SaryaiMethinks it's time to proofread this a bit.
12:14.15SaryaiGonna pastey the entire thing real quick... It's not very long...
12:14.33Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72111
12:15.32SaryaiDo I even need that GIR.active on 14? It's just a 1/nil anyway, I could prolly get away with just using 'ready'.
12:16.13SaryaiAnswered my own question.
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12:19.48SaryaiWoot! No errors now!
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12:25.07SaryaiSomeone mind helping me set up a table?
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12:26.08Arrowmastersuch as?
12:26.18Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72112 - Around line 66.
12:26.40SaryaiCommented out an idea for a table that didn't work, and I'm to the point where I have to get that set up.
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12:28.40Arrowmasterok
12:28.53SaryaiAll the table needs to hold is two values (name and a 1/0 active tag).
12:29.51Arrowmasterso table[sender] = true
12:30.42Arrowmasteror table[sender] = false
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12:31.47SaryaiThat'd make too much sense.
12:32.05SaryaiSo at 66: if arg1 == version and (arg6 == "start" or arg6 == "cb")
12:32.08Arrowmastermaybe you should get some sleep
12:32.14SaryaiAnd 67: rtbl[sender]=true
12:32.42SaryaiEh, just woke up. Just trying to make sense of my own code. >.>
12:33.33[dRaCo]you should comment it :þ
12:33.50Arrowmasteryoull need a 'then' in there
12:34.00Arrowmastermost people put it on the same line as the 'if'
12:34.28SaryaiYeah. Also need to make sure nobody's getting put on the list twice.
12:34.58Arrowmasterthey cant get in twice if your doing rtbl[sender]=true
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12:35.06SaryaiAlright.
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12:36.23SaryaiNow, to access this later by alphabetical order and change the tag of one person, about how would I be doing that?
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12:36.44Arrowmasterwell that would be much harder
12:36.57Grum_LOL .. why is the worldmap a button? =D
12:36.57SaryaiIE: This table's holding 3 people. Bob, Charley, Dave. Bob and Dave are false, Charley is true.
12:36.59Arrowmasteryoull need a temp table for sorting
12:37.18SaryaiCharley lags out, so we need someone else to be true.
12:37.30Grum_why does 'alphabetical' order matter?
12:37.40Arrowmasterprobably for display
12:37.45SaryaiConsistency.
12:38.17SaryaiNone of this is displayed, but there's going to be a few people running the mod. That "true" is a label for the active broadcaster of the guild.
12:38.22Grum_mm is the WorldMap a button because it accepts clicks?
12:38.37Grum_that would make some sense at least
12:38.50SaryaiSo if the active broadcaster lags out or quits, a new one has to be chosen, and I'd like it to be the same regardless of the situation.
12:38.57Arrowmasterwell you dont really need it sorted then
12:39.22Grum_not really just when you select a new one :)
12:40.10Grum_you could also just make it 'fifo' - having the second one to 'register' being the next one to do the broadcasting
12:40.59SaryaiActually... Think I might've figured a better way to do that.
12:41.21SaryaiAssign a random number and send it in the addonmessages.
12:41.45Arrowmasterhmm i should probably get some sleep since its almost 9am and i have a raid at 5pm
12:42.04SaryaiThen I can just pick a low/high number on the list and call it good... Right?
12:42.10JoshBorkesleep is over-rated
12:42.15SaryaiYes it is.
12:42.29ArrowmasterSaryai: you could also do the 'pick a random number and wait that long to send a message, first person to send the message wins' method
12:42.58Grum_there is no 'real' way to get out all possible lag btw
12:43.07Arrowmasterwell i also was just up from sometime thursday till sometime saturday
12:43.23Arrowmasterand i dont remember going to bed on saturday
12:43.29SaryaiArrow: Wouldn't really work.
12:43.34Arrowmasteri just wokeup in bed still wearing my pants
12:44.10Arrowmasterand didnt even get that much sleep either i dont think due to waking up from a very loud noise outside
12:44.57Arrowmasterso i heading to bed cya
12:45.17SaryaiIt's gonna be a semi-lagproof system. The addon relays guildchat by having at least one user each in two guilds. If there's more than one user active in a guild, and the active broadcaster lags out/quits/whatever, then every user in the guild would automatically choose and assign a new broadcaster to take over.
12:45.27SaryaiMornin' Arrowmaster.
12:45.50Arrowmasterwell it is moring
12:45.54Arrowmaster~ugt
12:45.54purl[ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
12:46.03Arrowmasterbut also evening, cya
12:46.10SaryaiHeh, later.
12:47.00Saryai*points up* That's why it's important to have this table and either the random number or by-name system. That way each client knows who's up next as soon as the situation changes.
12:48.22cncfanaticsNargiddley, ping
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12:49.19cncfanatics~seen Nargiddley
12:49.41purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 18m 14s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics, try that'.
12:51.34Ominoushey all
12:51.38cncfanaticshello Ominous
12:52.00Ominoushows fb?
12:52.06cncfanaticsWorking with stances
12:52.09cncfanaticsworking on keybindings atm
12:52.12Ominous:)
12:52.19Ominousstances work?
12:52.25Ominousomg i have to try it when i get home
12:52.43cncfanaticsits really going nicely imo
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12:54.12BootviHello there, I want to start writing a small addon for FuBar, but have no idea how to start
12:54.14cladhaireIf you guys have a need for imageshack like hosting, without the slowness or BS.. feel free to use: http://images.gammatester.com/
12:54.30cladhaireJust tossed the script up for my own uses, and its working well so far :P
12:54.43cncfanaticshmmm
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12:54.46cncfanatics~imagehosting
12:55.01cncfanaticspurl, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire
12:55.01purlokay, cncfanatics
12:55.04cncfanaticsthere :)
12:55.08cncfanaticsthat'll be handy, cheers cladhaire :)
12:55.09cladhairelol
12:55.20cncfanaticsi'll forget it in the next 10 sec if I dont do that -.-
12:55.30cladhairei'm the same way
12:55.32BootviCan anyone throw some pointers about how starting an addon for FuBar.. I'm kinda lost
12:55.57cncfanaticsOminous, soon FB2 is considered beta
12:56.02Ominous:)
12:56.04cncfanaticsthe first real beta with a damn gui & slashcommands
12:56.08Ominousis it me or are forum e-mails not working?
12:56.11Ominouscncfanatics, =D
12:56.33BootviCan anyone see my msg's btw? :o
12:57.19SaryaiBootvi: Yes.
12:57.30cncfanaticsthere, flexbar2 beta !
12:57.32CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46349 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Keybindings/Keybindings.lua Layout/Layout.lua): (log message trimmed)
12:57.32CIA-14FlexBar2:
12:57.32CIA-14FlexBar2 is now considered beta
12:57.32CIA-14Core.lua:
12:57.32CIA-14<PROTECTED>
12:57.34CIA-14<PROTECTED>
12:57.36CIA-14<PROTECTED>
12:57.50cladhairecncfanatics: http://images.gammatester.com/resize/
12:58.03Bootvialright. Can anyone throw me a tip on how to start an addon for FuBar? Any link? something?
12:58.19cncfanaticsBootvi, I think there's a tutorial somewhere
12:58.20Shiriktbph
12:58.22Shirikget an addon for fubar
12:58.37cncfanaticsand watch its code, indeed, always works best for me
12:59.18Bootviye been looking for it cncfanatics
12:59.28Bootviok thanks Shirik
13:02.20SaryaiIf I do GIR:RegisterComm(GIR.commPrefix, "WHISPER", "ReceiveMessage"), I won't have to self.RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER"), will I?
13:02.54CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46350 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: TOC update
13:04.22cncfanatics~flexbar
13:04.22purlflexbar is, like, a button creation/manipulation addon. You can find its forums at http://www.flexbarforums.com/
13:04.32cncfanaticspurl, forget flexbar
13:05.14dodgapurl, have my babies
13:05.33dodgaShe's shy :>
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13:07.15cncfanatics~FlexBar2
13:07.33cncfanatics~flexbar
13:07.34purlrumour has it, flexbar is A button manipulation addon currently in beta, find the latest info at http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2
13:07.37cncfanatics~flexbar2
13:07.38purlflexbar2 is probably A button manipulation addon currently in beta, find the latest info at http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2
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13:09.37Fisker-why flexbar2?
13:09.50cncfanaticsto make you attack me ?
13:09.53SaryaiNoob question: Looking through the tables section in pil, not quite sure... Once I add to a table ("then rtbl[sender]") how would I later remove an entry from it?
13:09.56Fisker-good answer
13:10.10Wobinset it to nil
13:10.26SaryaiSo rtbl[sender]=nil?
13:10.30Wobinaye
13:10.33SaryaiAlright
13:14.40CIA-1403ominous * r46351 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Herbalism.lua: Cartographer_Data: Weekly update
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13:15.58cncfanaticshmmm, not really the channel to ask this but
13:16.04cncfanaticswill there be a lua engine in warhammer online ?
13:16.10cncfanaticsI want my flexbar there before I start playing :p
13:16.14SaryaiHope so.
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13:17.44Grum_meh who made Cartographer so overly complicated! O.o
13:18.01nomenquisHi, i'm looking for someone who is interested in fixing a small bug in FuBar_AlchemyFu, or at least who can help me with fixing it :)
13:18.53WobinGrum: ckknight
13:19.11Grum_*AND* forgot to document it
13:19.21Grum_because really .. geez .. my head spins
13:19.47Grum_and why do people do stuff like:
13:19.47Grum_Cartographer_Notes = Cartographer:NewModule("Notes", "AceHook-2.1", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceComm-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0")
13:19.48Grum_local Cartographer_Notes = Cartographer_Notes
13:19.48Grum_local self = Cartographer_Notes
13:19.58Grum_why the 2(!) locals after it?
13:20.07Wobincause a local reference is always faster than a global lookup
13:20.09Ominouslocal is abit quicker
13:20.26Wobinand self is usually easier to read than the full name and faster to type
13:21.04Grum_so whenever you will do function self:... or function Cartographer_Notes:... it will be exactly the same?
13:21.11Wobinyeah
13:21.19Grum_how useful, lazy typers! Tsk :D
13:21.51Wobingenerally self is passed in automatically when you use the format object:functionname()
13:22.02nomenquisAnyone familiar with fubar_alchemyfu?
13:22.11Wobinit's the same as object.functionname(object)
13:22.52Grum_so why use both '.' and ':' ?
13:22.58Wobinsyntactic sugar
13:23.10Wobinit's faster to write object:functionname()
13:23.18Wobinthan object.functionname(object self)
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13:23.44Grum_i also see stuff like:
13:23.44Grum_local function getColorID(r, g, b) end
13:23.44Grum_Cartographer_Notes.getColorID = getColorID
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13:23.53Grum_what possible function can that have?
13:24.10Grum_why not just do: function Cartographer_Notes.getColorID( .. ) end
13:24.17Wobinit's trying to reference a local function
13:24.23Wobinwhich only has scope within the object
13:24.35Grum_you mean 'within the .lua file you are in' ?
13:24.41Wobinyeah
13:25.17Grum_ok so you do not define it in the global scope now, which is ok
13:25.26Grum_but why not do function Cartographer_Notes:getColorID( .. ) end
13:25.32Grum_wouldn't that be exactly the same?
13:25.52Wobinit will be after you assign it to the global
13:26.09Grum_riight
13:26.23Wobinchances are it's more an attempt at making a local function global
13:26.30Wobinor at least somewhat accessible
13:26.38Grum_inaccessible then right? :)
13:27.18Grum_ok so without syntactic sugar it would be: class:method( object, args )
13:27.26WobinIt's more for the modules that are trying to hack into the Cart_notes object
13:27.35Grum_with sugar: object = class; object.method( args ) ?
13:27.52Wobinclass and object are the same thing
13:27.57Grum_figured
13:28.05Grum_there is no real 'instance' of a class in lua
13:28.08Grum_just 'tables' :)
13:28.09Wobinbut no
13:28.15Wobinit would be object:method(args)
13:28.24Wobinand object.method(object, args)
13:28.35Grum_ah k, so the sugar is the :
13:28.38Wobinyeah
13:28.55Grum_object:method(args) is really rewritten to object.method(object, args) ?
13:29.02Wobinyes
13:29.07SaryaiQuestion: How would I watch guild chat for a certain local? Would that be by using "if string.find(local1)" or should I be using a different method?
13:29.11Wobinfunctionally identical
13:29.34WobinSaryai: not quite following
13:29.35Grum_but with object2 = object; you can also do object.method(object2, args) right?
13:29.50Wobinwell... yes
13:29.55Wobinalthough I don't know why you would want to
13:29.58ShirikSaryai: You can do that but not always
13:30.07Shirikyou will likely want to do local1 == msg
13:30.15Shirikor string.lower(local1) == string.lower(msg)
13:30.18Grum_well then there is never a reason to use object.method(object, args)
13:30.21SaryaiHmm.
13:30.28Shirikotherwise if your local has a % in it, you're going to have problems
13:30.29SaryaiTrying to watch just the start of a guild message.
13:30.31Shirikor other special chars
13:30.38WobinGrum_: to a certain extent
13:30.56ShirikSaryai: Is the local a user input?
13:30.58Wobinyou might want to use that if you're using a singleton or passing in another object as the 'self'
13:31.00SaryaiIE: If a guildie were to send "BT[Saryai]:" before the message, then the addon would ignore it.
13:31.04Grum_yeah
13:31.05SaryaiNah, savedvar.
13:31.10SaryaiStored as a local.
13:31.19Grum_if you are using the sugar version will you automagically get a 'self' inside the function ?
13:31.21Shirikok, if you can guarantee there are no special chars in it
13:31.25Wobinyes
13:31.26SaryaiYes.
13:31.42SaryaiNo special chars, it's a 2-letter guild tag.
13:31.43Shirikyou cna do string.find(msg, "^"..pattern)
13:31.45Shirikwhere pattern is your local
13:32.24SaryaiAlright. And if I wanted to watch for brackets directly after?
13:32.26Grum_so, (sorry for this bulkload:P) .. he was only doing the; local self = Cartographer_Notes because he wanted to use 'self' on a spot where he wasn't inside a sugar-coated function? O.o
13:32.46SaryaiJust the opening bracket. So, for example, BT[
13:32.51WobinGrum_: Aye, possibly. who knows what lurks in the mind of ckknight =P
13:32.53ShirikSaryai: string.find(msg, "^"..pattern".."%[")
13:32.59SaryaiGotcha. Thanks.
13:33.02Grum_Wobin: indeed hehe
13:33.03WobinOr really whoever wrote Cart_Notes
13:33.04baer_is parrot > msbt ?
13:33.17WobinI still use msbt
13:33.18Grum_ckknight did ;)
13:33.24SaryaiI'm wondering that too baer... I'm about to try it out to see.
13:33.44baer_i'm curious - drop me a note, if you tried it :)
13:33.46WobinNot sure on that
13:34.10Wobinhe incorporated it into Cart core, but I can't recall if he actually started the project
13:34.14Grum_i wish there was a way to visualize the frame-structure ingame :)
13:34.22Grum_because it's like really deeply nested O.o
13:34.58WobinMaybe he rewrote it completely, who knows =P
13:35.10SaryaiShirik: And to ignore it, I assume I'd just do " if string.find(msg, "^"..g2".."%[") then return end"?
13:35.20Shiriksure
13:35.33SaryaiAlright. ^_^
13:35.43Grum_really, someone has to spank ckknight so he'll add some comments to the code
13:35.48WobinYou're missing a .. there somewhere
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13:36.04Wobinor have an extraneous "
13:36.25Grum_g2" should be g2 if that is the variable (which is very badly named btw)
13:36.26Shirik?
13:36.30Shirikoh whops
13:36.35Shirikyeah the " after the g2 shouldn't be there
13:36.43Grum_what is 'g2' btw? :)
13:36.45SaryaiAlright.
13:36.49SaryaiAnd how's g2 badly named?
13:36.53Wobinguild name 2 char?
13:36.59Grum_guildname_2_char? :)
13:37.00Shirikit's completely unintuitive
13:37.13Shirikif someone were to look at g2 they wouldn't have the slightest clue what it means
13:37.14Saryaig2 = GIR.db.char.g2
13:37.19Wobinhehe
13:37.21Wobinthat's no help
13:37.28SaryaiIt's meant to be unintuitive.
13:37.28Wobina=a
13:37.33Wobinwhy?
13:37.37Grum_really use descriptive names so you can actually understand it when you read it back later
13:37.39Shirikwriting code that's unintuitive is generally bad :P
13:37.45Grum_yup :)
13:37.46Wobinit leads to tears
13:37.46SaryaiHeh.
13:37.49Shirikif you do write strange code
13:37.53Wobinand recriminations
13:37.55Shiriksurround it by -- HACK and -- END HACK
13:37.59Wobinand hours of "wtf was I thinking?"
13:38.08SaryaiFigured it'd be pretty obvious in the code, really. The addon is meant to relay messages between two guilds.
13:38.10WobinIt's the Blizzard way
13:38.16Saryaig1 and g2 = guild1 and guild2
13:38.20Wobinbetter to use guild1 and guild 2
13:38.20Grum_and put above: --[[ This code below does the following: ..... \n\n\n--]]
13:38.31SaryaiYep, commenting everything as I go.
13:38.38ShirikGrum: Blizzard has comments like that in their code :P
13:38.41Shirikthe -- HACK and -- END HACK
13:38.55Grum_well it's a nice tag to 'clean up later' if used consistently
13:38.56Wobincause they take pride in their code =)
13:38.59Shirikso naturally I had to duplicate it in one of my addons
13:39.04Wobinhehe clean up
13:39.06Wobinhehe
13:39.11Shirikwhen I made a table and a string the same thing
13:39.21Wobinwow
13:39.22Wobinthat is a HACK
13:39.25Shirikhehehe
13:39.26Grum_you could call it: WUBUBLBLEBLBELBELB CODE BELOW
13:39.31Grum_as long as you call it the same every time ;)
13:39.55Grum_table and a string the same thing .. humz i cant even imagine how that would look :D
13:40.26Grum_i find it rather strange that in lua any variable can also contain a function
13:40.42Wobinwelcome to first order variables
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13:40.47Shirikit's a beautiful thing
13:40.51Wobinit's true
13:41.19Grum_makes you read it twice all the time :)
13:41.31ShirikI'd say it's lua's most powerful tool, behind metatables
13:41.34Grum_as you cant really get it from context but only if you read 'what it was about' :)
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13:41.58Wobinyeah, that's why meaningful variable names are essential =)
13:42.01Grum_mmm
13:42.12Grum_do ... end blocks allow lua to have scoping of variables?
13:42.16Shirikyes
13:42.17Wobinyep
13:42.22Grum_do local tmp end .. and tmp is gone again?
13:42.28Wobinyep
13:42.32Grum_mm that is nice for singletons
13:42.32Wobinwell
13:42.36Wobininaccessible outside of the block
13:42.41Grum_yeah
13:42.57Grum_so you can have cache tables in do .. end blocks for example
13:43.10Grum_which evil persons can not alter from the outside :)
13:43.23WobinYou could set them as file local and it'd do the same
13:43.27Shirikyou would expect evil persons to be editing the file?
13:43.36WobinThat's what they do, Shirik
13:43.41WobinMALICIOUS TYPING DETECTED
13:43.50ShirikWobin: Well that doesn't protect you from going into the do..end block either ><
13:43.53Grum_hmm i see 'rawget' often - that basicly means 'ignore any metatable magic and fetch my data' ?
13:43.56Wobinit's those 4chan hackers
13:43.57Shirikyup
13:44.09WobinThose shady 'anonymous' characters
13:44.15Shirikit goes into the table, and nothing else, and retrieves the key requested
13:44.19SaryaiAlright, getting to the main process of the addon: Relaying chat_msg_guild to a private channel (which will then get repeated by another addon user in guild 2)...
13:44.21Shirikwithout going into any metamethods
13:44.49Grum_and i'm working on the guts of Cartographer to make my own plugin O.o
13:44.56Grum_but till now it's like .. severly hard :\
13:45.00WobinSaryai: I guess you can't be sure that there will always be two guildmembers online to relay?
13:45.11Grum_i could ofc duplicated like 80% of cartographer(_notes) but .. that is not ok ;
13:45.13SaryaiAye.
13:45.15WobinCartographer is possibly a little ... complex to start off with =)
13:45.24WobinWhat do you want your module to do?
13:45.43Grum_Cartographer_Routes ... drawing of lines on the worldmap (and later minimap)
13:45.49Wobinaha
13:45.50Wobinnice
13:46.01SaryaiWobin: It'll be checking beforehand for a broadcaster on the other end.
13:46.13Wobinconsider using Cart_Notes, but only really for coordinate saving for points
13:46.18Grum_the basic thing is done .. it's a cartographer plugin, i can store data per zone ...
13:46.20Grum_not really
13:46.23Wobinlook how Cart_Waypoints hacks into it
13:46.33Grum_because order matters
13:46.35Wobinfor icons on the map
13:46.38Grum_order is everything :\
13:46.46Wobinthat's fine
13:47.01Wobinfor the location object, you can add in a ordinal variable
13:47.09Wobinsince it's a table, you can add any extra information you want
13:47.28Grum_not sure, it has a RegisterDefault, so that kinda limits you
13:47.39WobinAdd it on after the defaults
13:47.45Wobinit will save the result
13:48.37Grum_but the only way Carto Notes will save my data is like: account.zone.{ point = data, point = data, point = data }
13:49.01Grum_and i need: account.zone.name.route = { point, point, point }
13:49.02Wobinso, make the point.data.ordinal
13:49.18Wobinyou'll have to save your own information, certainly
13:49.38Grum_problem is that I will be forced to store the order externally
13:49.51WobinYou'd have to do that anyway, I suspect
13:49.55Grum_as with point being the key i can not guarantee to preserve order
13:50.01Grum_not really
13:50.09Wobinwell no
13:50.13Grum_account.zone.name.route = { point, point, point } is account.zone.name.route = { 1 = point, 2 = point, 3 = point }
13:50.17Wobinif you store the ordinal in the data ojbect
13:50.27Wobinyou can then sort it yourself when doing the drawing
13:50.42Grum_well that might be a problem - i have no idea how many times i need to draw it
13:50.46Grum_once every frame?
13:50.49Wobinyep
13:50.51Grum_i have no idea how that works :\
13:51.10Grum_but if that is the case - i do not gain much in sorting it again as i also have to categorize it and prevent it from showing icons
13:51.12Wobinwell actually, I don't know
13:51.20Grum_me neither (and that sucks)
13:51.25Grum_and i cant really seem to find out
13:51.44WobinI hope you get it working =)
13:51.49Grum_also how it handles the 'location' on the map from the x/y values it gets from GetPlayerPosition(orso)
13:51.49WobinI'd like to hook waypoints into it
13:52.02Grum_yeah that would be a feature later on
13:52.02Wobinit does a translational hack
13:52.36sylvanaarim still playing eve - even though my brain is telling me im not having fun - im still playing
13:52.38Grum_well from what i've been able to see it actually just does: WorldMapFrame.Width * x and WorldMapFrame.Height * y orso
13:52.47Grum_which is rather .. too straight forward :)
13:53.02Grum_it has to do craploads of translation for the minimap however
13:53.12Grum_i also do not know which frame to draw ontop of
13:53.31Grum_but likely WorldFrameButton - but i do not know if that is a frame :/
13:53.45Grum_*too many questions*
13:54.09Wobinbest person to ask would be ckk
13:55.01Grum_yeah
13:55.16Grum_but is somewhat frustrating to have to wait for 1 person's time :)
13:55.30SaryaiAlright, so, working on that message processor now... Now, first thing I need it to do is store the last message sent. Then, if active, relay that message.
13:56.00SaryaiNot sure how I'm gonna go about storing it... Prolly just store it in a local string?
13:57.44Grum_and why isn't there any addon which displays a more detailed map instead of the current worldmap
13:58.10SaryaiI remember one that displays the minimap textures for the worldmap.
13:58.11Grum_would be so cool to have the 'stitched together minimap display' as your worldmap
13:58.14Wobinmore detailed?
13:58.15Wobinoh
13:58.19Wobinthat's a lot of image
13:58.20Grum_being able to zoom in all the way
13:58.24Grum_it's alreayd ingame
13:58.29Grum_you just need to know the order :)
13:58.30Wobinbut inaccessible
13:58.35Wobinby the api
13:58.39SaryaiNot sure exactly what the addon intailed, but it's on wowinterface.
13:58.48Grum_Wobin: it's images right?
13:59.00Grum_so just stitch em together yourself
13:59.12WobinI guess, but it's a huge amount of image
13:59.22Grum_not really, you dont need to load all data
13:59.31Wobinhow do you extract it then?
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13:59.45WobinYou can't -get- the minimap graphics from the api
13:59.45Grum_well afaik the images have 'random md5 hashes' as name
13:59.51Grum_i know
13:59.59Wobinoy
14:00.00Grum_but you can show the .blps it uses
14:00.06Wobinthat would be a headache to figure out =P
14:00.21Grum_someone did it - see the google-map of wow
14:00.36baer_Grum_, oO ?
14:01.07SaryaiHmm, can't find the addon.
14:01.09Wobinmapwow.com I guess
14:01.09Grum_http://mapwow.com/
14:01.12Grum_yup
14:01.13SaryaiKnow I saw one a while back.
14:01.24Grum_that one did exactly what i just said - but 'outside' ;D
14:02.14Wobinyeah cartographe
14:02.31Wobinexternal program to show the detail
14:03.09Grum_would be so possible :)
14:03.28Grum_you can use 'blp' as textures right?
14:03.32Grum_as well as tga ?
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14:03.47Wobinyeah...
14:03.59Wobinalthough, tbh... why?
14:04.07Wobinwhy do you need that much detail?
14:04.16Grum_dismiss the minimap completely? :)
14:04.24SaryaiSee things that aren't on the world map?
14:04.38Wobincan't see it happening
14:04.45Grum_why not?
14:04.59Wobinthe minimap is there for a reason, a quick glance view of your direct surroundings
14:05.26Wobinif you have to pull up the main map, then zoom in for a section that only shows your direct surroundings with the information you need, why not just use the minimap?
14:05.38Grum_so you can zoom out :)
14:05.48WobinThe herb nodes, etc, will only show up on the minimap
14:05.50Grum_and see more! exact locations of nodes .. which damn side of the tree it is =D
14:05.59Grum_but you can prolly zoom in further than the minimap can
14:06.04Grum_because you can control it yourself
14:06.06Grum_overlay stuff easier
14:06.08Wobinnot from this wow map
14:06.16Wobiner
14:06.17Wobinno
14:06.27Grum_not from the external page no :)
14:06.29WobinThe minimap zooms pretty fine as it is
14:06.49Grum_then you wont download it! ;D
14:07.14Wobinsure, if you have problems seeing that you're -not- standing right on top of a node, then you need something like that...
14:07.31WobinI've never had an issue figuring that out from the max minimap zoom
14:07.32Grum_you can do more fun stuff
14:07.36Wobinlike?
14:07.41Grum_make overlays with spawnpoints of mobs
14:07.56WobinYou can do that now =P
14:08.15Grum_yeah but you neved seen the roads ingame kinda not align with the roads on the worldmap? :)
14:08.49WobinI honestly don't think it's a viable concept
14:08.56Grum_now when you look for a questgiver you can see he is standing next to the inn instead of 'just a bit below the 'i' of menethil harbor!
14:09.09Wobinnot with the amount of stitching you'd have to do with random md5hash numbers
14:09.22Grum_make a script which stiches
14:09.31Grum_and just have 1 bulk of tables in your script
14:09.45SaryaiThat's a lot of work.
14:09.45Wobinyeah, but you'd have to figure out which is attached to which
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14:09.57Wobinit's a lot of work for very little return
14:09.58Grum_you can make an external program do the guessing of that
14:10.05Grum_that is *really* easy :)
14:10.05cncfanaticsOminous, please tell me what u think of FB when u tried it
14:10.05Wobinhow?
14:10.05SaryaiWobin: How would I go about temporarily storing an inbound chat message?
14:10.18Grum_Wobin: by comparing the 2 edges of a patch
14:10.21Ominouscncfanatics: i need to get home first
14:10.29WobinJust store it, any information not saved to a SV file gets dumped on a reloadui
14:10.50WobinGrum: Write this program
14:10.53SaryaiThat's what I figured, but what would I be using to store it?
14:10.59Wobinand I'll admit it's possible =)
14:11.02Wobinanything
14:11.18Grum_Wobin: lol ..
14:11.19Wobinaddon.MyTempFilename = savemyvariablehere
14:11.34Grum_it's not that hard .. i even *think* they might have some overlapping pixels ;)
14:11.43Grum_just to make it easy to render :)
14:11.54WobinGrum: Again, I say it's a lot of work for little result =P
14:12.02Grum_you just have to do that work once
14:12.02Wobinbut go right ahead
14:12.12Grum_and likely, it's stored somewhere in the wow-data (clientside) as well
14:12.13Gnarfoz<Grum_> would be so cool to have the 'stitched together minimap display' as your worldmap <-- Yatlas
14:12.32Grum_or i can just steal if from Yatlas
14:13.45fireglowanyone got a working Recount package? the most recent pack is bugged for me
14:13.55Grum_hihi :D
14:14.03Grum_Wobin: i can just steal it .. hehe
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14:17.29[dRaCo]fireglow: http://files.wowace.com/Recount/
14:17.50fireglowah ;D
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14:35.57Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72119 - Someone wanna check that?
14:36.26SaryaiI have no idea whether or not it's gonna work.
14:41.40SaryaiGIR\Core.lua:47: 'then' expected near '=' - http://ace.pastey.net/72119 for the snippet.
14:41.46SaryaiGrr.
14:42.59JoshBorkeit's ~= not =~|
14:43.07JoshBorkehave you read PIL or the Lua manual?
14:45.29SaryaiOops.
14:45.37SaryaiYes... Bit of a type there. =/
14:45.43SaryaiTypo. >.<
14:45.50AmadeoAll I read was Curious George
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14:55.16Saryai>.<
14:55.19Saryaiif arg6 == "stop" and arg7 ~= "ECHO" then rtbl[sender]=nil end
14:55.41Saryai'=' expected near 'if'
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14:57.55cladhairethe error is the line before that
14:57.59cladhaireis on, rather
14:58.03SaryaiYeah, just found it.
14:58.25JoshBorkewhat kind of formatting is that?
14:58.30JoshBorkecoding style i mean
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14:59.39SaryaiWhat, putting if/then on the same line?
14:59.47JoshBorkeyou have them on different lines
14:59.52JoshBorkeand then the end is sometimes after everything
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15:00.26SaryaiJust haven't cleaned it up yet
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15:01.03SaryaiBeen moving around and editing bits and pieces enough that I've left formatting pretty much on its own.
15:01.16SaryaiWoot, errors squashed.
15:01.26SaryaiNow to set the broadcaster...
15:02.09cncfanaticsu know, formatting ur code, always, is a good way to get less errors
15:02.43SaladForkWhy would you ever want to get less errors?
15:03.36SaryaiErrors are fun. >.>
15:03.45cncfanaticshum
15:03.51SaladForkErrors are fantastic. Without them, how would you know what you were doing wrong?
15:03.57Ominousyes...
15:04.09cncfanaticsI sometimes spend hours squashing logic or syntax errors in formatted code, cant immagine what it wld be in formatted code
15:04.26SaryaiGoing through and formatting everything now, since I've finally gotten the bugs squashed.
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15:05.13Ominousbut seriously format as you type then you dont miss thens, ends etc
15:05.46SaladForkHaha, you should see my code, it's almost OCD.
15:05.56SaladForkI comment nearly every line, >.<
15:06.17SaladForkLet me rephrase
15:06.24SaladForkI add comments to nearly every line to explain what it does*
15:07.21Grum_is there any way to 'delete' a frame?
15:07.29Ominousnope
15:07.30Grum_or a line drawn by Graph-1.0 for that matter
15:07.42Grum_but hiding will effectivly do the same?
15:08.15Ominousit will remain in memory until a reload ui
15:08.19SaladForkHehe, we need Eraser-1.0
15:08.40Ominoushence its important to reuse frames not just repeditly make them
15:10.19Grum_humz but that might be hard if you move em around all the time hehe
15:12.30cncfanaticsOminous, when u going home ? :p
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15:13.27Ominouscncfanatics: few hrs
15:13.44Ominouscncfanatics: WTB screenshots
15:13.58cncfanaticstake some if u dont mind :)
15:14.02cncfanaticsso I can put em on wiki ^^
15:14.28Ominousbah but i wanna see some now :D
15:14.37cncfanaticsnothing special yet looks wise
15:14.44cncfanaticsI need to get my ass to code grouping now
15:14.51Ominousyes, yes you do
15:15.15cncfanaticsgonna start working on it now
15:16.32sbcnc addon?
15:16.43cncfanaticsFlexBar2
15:16.51cncfanaticsits in beta now
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15:18.16sbah
15:18.19sbokay :o
15:18.46cncfanaticstry it out & give me feedback if u want :p
15:18.49cncfanaticsthats what I need right no
15:18.51cncfanaticsnow*
15:18.59SaryaiOdd.
15:19.00Saryaifunction GIR:ReceiveMessage(prefix, sender, distribution, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7)
15:19.00Saryaiif arg1 < version
15:19.13SaryaiAttempt to compare nil with a number.
15:19.22cncfanaticsversion is , I supose a number
15:19.28cncfanaticsand arg1 is not being passed, and is thus nil
15:19.29SaryaiYeah, it's set.
15:19.31cncfanaticsinclude a sanity check
15:19.42cncfanaticsif(type(arg1) == "number") then
15:19.57SaryaiAlright.
15:20.07SaladForkDoest ReceiveMessage use strings?
15:20.11SaladForkSo you'd have to use tonumber()
15:20.19SaladFork?
15:20.33cncfanaticsno idea there
15:20.41SaladForkRegardless, it wouldn't be nil
15:20.44SaladForkBut something to consider
15:21.38SaryaiRegardless, I was under the impression that strings were evaluated the same as numbers  in a comparison.
15:21.52SaladForkNot when you're using > or <
15:22.13SaryaiAnd now it's attempting to compare a boolean with a number.
15:22.22SaryaiAh, I see.
15:22.43SaryaiNot seeing quite how I'd fix it, but I know what you mean.
15:22.52SaladForkEasily, use tonumber(arg1)
15:22.58cncfanaticsarg1 = tonumber(arg1)
15:23.07cncfanaticsthen u check if(type(arg1) == "number")
15:23.09cncfanaticsand then u continue
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15:23.19SaladForkcnc - that would be horribly redundant
15:23.32SaladForkYou just converted it to a number, checking for it is just silly, =P
15:23.41SaladForkTry doing a nil check first, and if it's not nil, convert it to a number
15:23.49SaladForkAnd I think we can trust tonumber() to change it to a number type
15:23.57SaryaiSnippet:
15:23.57Saryaifunction GIR:ReceiveMessage(prefix, sender, distribution, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7)
15:23.57Saryaiarg1 = tonumber(arg1)
15:23.57Saryaiif arg1 < version
15:24.17SaryaiSince we just converted it, not worrying about the sanity check.
15:24.36SaladForkThat should theoretically work. Check to make sure it's being passed right though
15:24.37cncfanaticsSaladFork, u cant be sure it aint nil
15:24.46SaryaiYeah, checking ingame.
15:24.46SaladForkCnc - that's why I said to do a nil check first, =P
15:24.48cncfanaticsguess if(arg1) would do too
15:25.09SaryaiNil to a number first. Yeah, sanity check time.
15:25.23SaladForkSaryai - just have a self:Print("Arg1: "..arg1..", Arg2: "..arg2), and whatnot
15:25.36SaladForkPrint doesn't care if it's a number or a string
15:25.47SaladForkBefore you try working with your arguments, check to make sure you're getitng them, ;)
15:25.59cncfanaticsSaladFork
15:26.03SaladForkYep?
15:26.07cncfanaticsself:Print("Arg1:", arg1, etc
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15:26.12cncfanaticswould be safer to use , instead of ..
15:26.14cncfanaticsin case they're nil
15:26.23SaladForkAh, good point
15:26.24SaladForkThanks
15:26.32SaryaiChecking that now.
15:26.38SaladForkAnd I do apologize in advance, I've coded/scripting in several other languages, but I'm a Lua newbie
15:26.43SaladForkJust coded my first mini-addon last night
15:26.58SaladForkBut tonumber() before a < or < was one of the first things I learnt, =D
15:27.01SaladFork< or >*
15:27.39SaryaiTo err is human.
15:27.50SaryaiTo really screw up requires a computer.
15:28.11SaladForkThe best and worst parts about programming are the same: The computer does exactly what you tell it to.
15:28.31SaryaiBah... ')' expected near 'arg1' when doing that print.
15:28.41Saryaiself:Print("Arg1:"arg1) is the line.
15:28.46SaladForkAdd a comma
15:28.53SaladForkself:Print("Arg1: ",arg1)
15:28.59SaladForkOr concat it
15:29.01SaryaiAh.
15:29.36SaryaiTyping too fast FTL.
15:29.39SaladForkhehe
15:30.08SaryaiYep, arg1 is being passed as nil.
15:30.17SaladForkWell, check your send function, ;)
15:30.34Saryaiif ready == 1
15:30.34Saryaithen GIR.SendMessage(version, g1, g2, pname, ready,
15:30.57SaladForkAdd in a self:Print before the .SendMessage()
15:31.00SaladForkAnd print out the variables
15:31.04SaladForkSee if you're sending nil
15:31.04Ominouswhy dont you put if and then on the same line?
15:31.08Curneyis there an svn admin around?
15:31.18SaryaiOminous: We've been through this. >.>
15:31.37SaiBorkhey quys, question, why does  "local _, repairCost = SetBagItem(bag, slot)" keep nagging about being a global and nil :(
15:31.48SaladFork!syntax SetBagItem
15:31.55SaladForkDamn, could have swon I saw someone doing that yesterday
15:32.03SaladForksworn*
15:32.27SaiBorkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetBagItem  ;)
15:32.42SaryaiSalad: http://ace.pastey.net/72120
15:32.43SaladForkAnyone know the command for the IRC bot for syntax checking? =S
15:32.48Ominous!api SetBagItem
15:32.49ThraeBotOminous: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBagItem
15:32.51SaladForkThanks Omi
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15:32.56cncfanaticsSaladFork
15:32.59cncfanatics!api SetBagItem
15:32.59ThraeBotcncfanatics: I just said that 11s ago.
15:32.59SaryaiThat's the sendmessage wrapper and the initial ready check.
15:33.00SaladForkYeah?
15:33.08SaladForkOh, thanks to you too, =D
15:33.16SaladForkLike I said, new to the chan/Lua
15:33.40OminousSaiBork: as thats not how its used
15:33.52SaladForkAhhh, a name-tabber! *gasp*
15:33.58SaladForkOh wait, nvm
15:34.15cncfanaticsOminous, dont forget to screenshot when u try out please :)
15:34.40SaiBorkwell im busy with a sell value mod and i need to know if it has repaircost or not, also im not able to get the prices from the vendor, but i wanted to get this done first
15:35.30SaiBorklocal _, repairCost = tooltip:SetBagItem(bag, slot)   doesnt work either, neither does self: or this:
15:35.39SaladForkSai - I don't believe the WoW API tracks vendor costs unless you're at a vendor
15:35.54SaiBorki am at a vendor
15:36.01SaladForkThat would help, >.<
15:36.08OminousSaiBork: it has to be done from a frame which inherets GameTooltip
15:36.12CIA-1403elkano * r46354 10InventoryLib/InventoryLib-2.0/InventoryLib-2.0.lua: InventoryLib: fixed some stuff that was left broken :/
15:37.24Ominouscncfanatics: ofc not
15:37.53CIA-1403sylvanaar * r46355 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fix wierd menu name regresssion eg. PratChatButtons->ChatButtons
15:38.19cncfanaticsany other vulonteers to try out FB2 btw ?
15:38.22cncfanaticsI badly need feedback
15:38.37SaryaiSomeone wanna take a look at this? Attempt to compare nil with a number, line 90.
15:38.38Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72121
15:39.03Ominousarg1 or version is nil
15:39.09SaryaiIt's arg1.
15:39.10Ominousjust print them both before to see which is
15:39.13SaryaiTrying to figure out why.
15:39.33Ominousis it nil before or after you tonumber it
15:40.00SaryaiHmm... Lemme check.
15:40.22SaryaiCan't remember if it was a string or a nil before.
15:40.41SaryaiIt's nil before.
15:41.23Ominousmight not help you are using GIR.SendMessage not GIR:SendMessage
15:42.00SaryaiBAH
15:42.02Saryai>.<
15:42.08SaryaiI thought I'd killed that.
15:42.10SaryaiThanks.
15:42.26SaryaiThere we go.
15:42.28SaryaiError-free.
15:43.04SaladForkWOAH
15:43.25SaladForkYou know when you kill something and you see "XP : ###" pop up?
15:43.31Saryaiyeah?
15:43.55SaladForkI just made a macro that uses XP as a variable name (through /script XP=whatever), and it changed that message
15:44.05cncfanaticsOminous, mind having a look at the code of FB ? its the first time I code with this style
15:44.11Ominoussure
15:44.25SaladForkXP is replaced with whatever my variable contains
15:44.25SaladForko.O
15:44.34SaryaiO_O
15:44.37Ominouscncfanatics: bah lots of ;
15:44.50SaryaiAny actual change?
15:44.55SaladForkSaryai - yep
15:44.59cncfanaticsOminous, gonna check now ? :o
15:45.08CIA-1403syntherift * r46356 10cyCircled/plugins/Numen.lua:
15:45.08CIA-14cyCircled:
15:45.08CIA-14- Removed Numen support until i work the bugs out
15:45.14SaladFork/script XP=UnitXP("player");
15:45.22SaladForkThat's the first line of my macro
15:45.26Ominouscncfanatics: im looking at the code, do you code in a C based language as well?
15:45.33SaladForkAnd now whnever I get a kill, I get my exp in the message, XD
15:45.38cncfanaticsI code in javascript & php too
15:45.40cncfanaticswhy ? :p
15:45.44SaryaiNiice.
15:45.51SaladForkCnc - I'm coming from a similar place oyu are
15:45.56SaladForkYou don't use semicolons in Lua
15:46.02Ominouscncfanatics: the ; after every line
15:46.05SaladForkThat bothers me so much, XD
15:46.14cncfanaticsOminous, old habyt that wont ever go away :)
15:46.20Ominous:)
15:46.24cncfanaticscant hurt using them either way, SaladFork
15:46.36SaladForkcnc - Realllllly?
15:46.41Ominousjust like if(...) then isnt needed it can be if ... then
15:46.48cncfanaticsSaladFork, if u feel like it yea
15:46.50Ominousno it dosent matter if you use em
15:47.01SaladForkI still have to get used to ~= instead of !=
15:47.03cncfanaticsI use the c++ syntax i'm used to
15:47.25Ominousya ofc i can understand it wld be hard to change
15:47.26SaladForkTime to add semicolons to my code
15:47.28SaladForkYou just made my day.
15:47.40SaladForkI really had to be very actively aware when I was coding to make sure I didn't add them, =P
15:47.40Ominousi started playing in java and gave up cos of semi colons
15:48.09cncfanaticsI'm so used to them I dont even think about em
15:48.11cncfanaticsI occasionaly forget one
15:48.16cncfanaticsbut it dsnt matter in lua :)
15:48.20SaladForkcnc, exactly, I had to really pay attention to make sure I didn't put them
15:48.28SaladFork/cheer
15:48.30cncfanatics:)
15:48.44SaladForkI even put semicolons when scripting in mIRC
15:48.45SaladForklol
15:48.59SaladForkBut that cost me, =(
15:49.28SaladForkHey, is there a language filter on this chan? (as in, can I use not-child-friendly language?) =
15:49.29SaladFork=P
15:49.58SaryaiI haven't cared to test that. >.>
15:50.36SaladFork10110/21000 = 0.481429
15:50.36SaladFork.calc 10110/21000
15:50.39SaladForkFantastic.
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15:51.51cncfanaticshmmm, how could I get a half transparent green frame over an existing frame?
15:51.55SaladFork(Feel free to use the script yourself guys, I have it set to detect your commands too)
15:52.05cncfanatics.calc 1/5
15:52.14cncfanaticsdsnt do anything -.-
15:52.15SaladForkTime to debug
15:52.15SaladForkwooo
15:52.18SaladForkOh
15:52.18SaladForktry
15:52.21SaladFork1 / 5 = 0.2
15:52.21SaladFork.calc 1 / 5
15:52.33SaladForkActually, don't bother
15:52.37SaladForkI just fixed it so yours will owrk
15:52.42cncfanatics.calc 1/5
15:52.42SaladFork1/5 = 0.2
15:52.54SaladForkI added a "$2 isnum" check to prevent people abusing it, but I guess I can trust you guys, ;)
15:52.55cncfanaticsis that a lua parser ?
15:52.56SaryaiHmm.
15:52.57cncfanaticsor just for maths ?
15:53.02SaryaiMinor point of curiosity.
15:53.25SaladForkON *:TEXT:*:#: { if ($1 == .calc) { msg active $2- = $calc($2-) }
15:53.30cncfanaticsOminous, what u thinking of the code ? I like most of it personaly :p except some parts of the core
15:53.32SaryaiIf I have g2 set as GIR.db.char.g2, and have an inheritance trigger set...
15:53.49SaryaiWhat happens when I change g2?
15:53.54Ominouscncfanatics: i got destracted, its ALOT of code
15:54.01cncfanaticsthe core is pretty big
15:54.03SaladForkg2 ~= GIR.db.char.g2, I think
15:54.06cncfanaticsbut the modules are nicely small
15:54.08SaladForkthey're probably independent of each other
15:54.14SaryaiWould I want to change the db values directly in the case of inheritance?
15:54.14SaladForkoh, inheritence trigger
15:54.15SaladForkIgnore me
15:54.36SaryaiYeah. In other words, if I want to pass settings to another player.
15:54.47SaryaiAddonmessage is sent, args give the vital settings.
15:55.00SaladForkCnc - it's not a parser at all, it's mIRC script, =D
15:55.12SaryaiWould I want to change the settings via db values, or could I get away with say, g2 = arg3
15:55.21cncfanaticsSaladFork, I'd love you for putting a lua parser behind that
15:55.26cncfanatics.lua <code>
15:55.35SaladForkAnd it would do what with it?
15:55.55cncfanaticsI'd be able to test all my hardcoding for syntax errors :)
15:56.00SaladForkAh, lol
15:56.03SaryaiEh. I'll just change the db values.
15:56.07SaladForkThat would be a tad more complicated than just $calc($2-)
15:56.12cncfanatics!api CreateFrame
15:56.13ThraeBotcncfanatics: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]);  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
15:56.16cncfanaticsit would indeed
15:56.28Ominouscncfanatics: you can test stuff for syntax errors
15:56.43Ominouscncfanatics: luac
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15:56.55cncfanaticsif I can have access to luac I'll have access to wow too
15:57.08cncfanaticsits for when i'm in a closed environment where I can't download shit but webpages
15:57.30Ominousput it on a memory pen
15:57.32Ominous?
15:57.41cncfanaticsno usb ports
15:57.44cncfanaticsnor cdrom
15:57.48SaladForkCnc - just telnet to a computer that has it
15:57.48cncfanaticsnor disquette :p
15:57.58cncfanaticsand I cant telnet out of my network either there
15:58.04OminousoO
15:58.09SaladForkYou have webpages, don't you?
15:58.10cncfanaticslovely fucked physical firewall
15:58.13SaladForkI'm sure there's a web-based telnet
15:58.21cncfanaticsthat might indeed
15:58.26cncfanaticscould install webmin on this box
15:58.32cncfanaticsand use webmin's javascript based shell
15:58.48Ominousbut can
15:58.50Ominousoops
15:58.59cncfanaticsOminous, read code ! :p :)
15:59.10Ominousbut but but...
15:59.22cncfanaticsor actualy
15:59.31Ominouswhat do you want me to look for
15:59.34cncfanaticscan u tell me how I can create a half transparent, draggable green colored frame ?
15:59.41cncfanaticsI suck with CreateFrame :(
15:59.44Ominouserm ya
16:00.08SaladForkHey guys, is it possible to create a way to drop+drop items onto a "dummy" such as your character screen? (and furthermore, grab stats from those items?)
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16:00.52Ominouscncfanatics: can you make a green frame?
16:00.56cncfanaticsno
16:01.12Ominousi wld need to test what i did on wow
16:01.13cncfanaticsheck, it took me hours & hours to get my buttons done correctly :(
16:01.32CIA-1403syntherift * r46357 10cyCircled/plugins/Numen.lua:
16:01.32CIA-14cyCircled:
16:01.32CIA-14- fixed error msg for Numen plugin
16:01.43Funkeh`loes
16:01.47CIA-1403syntherift * r46358 10Numen/Numen.lua:
16:01.47CIA-14Numen:
16:01.47CIA-14- fixed issue with scaling not being saved correctly
16:01.51cncfanaticsFunkeh`is here
16:01.59cncfanaticsFunkeh` what server u play on ?
16:02.04cncfanaticsI got a guy called Funkey in my guild lol
16:02.08cncfanaticsFUnkeh*
16:02.22Funkeh`arathor, AlAkir, SIlvermoon
16:02.26Funkeh`(EU)
16:03.21cncfanaticsok, not :p
16:03.24cncfanaticskhadgar EU
16:03.53cncfanaticsOminous, I'd love you to check if my coding practices are good and I dont waste any CPU / memory :p first time I code heavely module based
16:04.59SaryaiYay basic chatbot functionality. Just need one bit of info.
16:05.02Saryaiif broadcaster == 1 and string.find(msg, "gir.channel set ")
16:05.17SaryaiWondering how I'd pull a channel name from that same message.
16:05.19CIA-1403cryect * r46359 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua tags.lua): Relog - Adds a combat log display that can be swapped to
16:05.52SaryaiSo if someone in guild said "gir.channel set blueteam" it would change the addon's channel to blueteam.
16:05.54Ominousbut if you have a single plane texture you can do something like frame = CreateFrame("Frame") frame.texture = frame:CreateTexture(nil, 'Overlay')  frame.texture:SetVertexColor(0,1,0) frame.texture:SetAllPoints(frame) then set frame as movable and size etc
16:06.19Ominousoh and frame.texture:SetTexture("Path//To//Textue")
16:06.24cncfanaticsthing is
16:06.28cncfanaticsif the frame itself is clicked
16:06.32cncfanaticsthe action on it will be activated
16:06.35cncfanaticsif there iso ne
16:06.40cncfanaticsso I need an overlay that will catch the clicks
16:06.47cncfanaticsits for dragging buttons
16:06.50Ominousoh
16:06.51Ominousi see
16:07.31SaryaiAnyone?
16:07.40Ominousdo that, but make the frame a higher level and then do frame:SetAllPoints(button) and frame(.texture?):SetAlpha(.5)
16:08.07cncfanaticswhat texture should I set that frame to ?
16:08.16Ominouserm that is a good question
16:08.30CryectUse SetTexture(0,1,0)
16:08.40Cryectthat will give you a green texture
16:08.52cncfanaticsand how to set it semi transparent ?
16:08.55Cryectassuming you did want that solid green texture you were talking about
16:09.03Cryectadd a forth number
16:09.07Cryectthats the alpha value
16:09.11cncfanaticsokay
16:09.12cncfanaticslets try
16:09.17SaryaiSetTexture(0,1,0,122)
16:09.17sbCryect: uhm whats the next step? :p
16:09.27SaryaiThat'd be about half transparent if I remember.
16:09.38Cryectdon;'t use 122
16:09.38cncfanaticsalpha is a 256 based value ?
16:09.40Cryectno
16:09.48SaryaiNope, was thinking 256.
16:09.50xyuwhat's the best leveling tree for warlock?
16:09.51sbCryect: i'm thinking about implementing some options (fontsize and stuff) - but if thats your plan already... :o
16:09.52Saryai0.5 for the last number.
16:09.55xyusolo leveling
16:09.56SaladForkIsn't alpha 0.0 to 1.0?
16:10.07SaladFork!api SetTexture
16:10.08ThraeBotSaladFork: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTexture
16:10.13SaryaiYeah, just remembered. Sorry, been a while since I tweaked alpha.
16:10.26cncfanaticsSaladFork, SetTexture aint an api func its a widget method :p
16:10.27SaladForkxyu - Demo
16:10.30CryectI'm planning to add a rudimentry console based options in and clean up so unnecessary code
16:10.34Cryectalso more documentation
16:10.34Saryai!api string.find
16:10.35SaladForkCnc - I'll figure it out eventually
16:10.35ThraeBotSaryai: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_string.find
16:10.35xyuthanks salad
16:10.43SaryaiDoh.
16:10.44Cryectthen think about how I want multipass filtering to work
16:10.47cncfanaticsTexture:SetTexture("texturePath" or r, g, b[, a]) - Sets the texture to be displayed from a file or to a solid color.
16:10.53SaladForkxyu - want me to link you an example spec?
16:10.59Ominouscncfanatics: use SetAlpha
16:11.15SaiBorkanybody knows an easy way to get prices from vendors? (or can tell me how to implement ItemPrice-1.0 so it will work?)
16:11.23xyuSaladFork: sure that'd be aweseome
16:11.31sbCryect: hmm okay - so it wouldnt make any sense to implement options ;o
16:11.33xyui havne't looked at any warlock talents since BC
16:11.35SaladForkAlright, let me fly my character to a safe place, one sec, =)
16:11.36SaiBorki found http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue, but thats not really helpfull
16:11.52Ominouscncfanatics: do Frame:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") where frame is the frame the texture is derived from
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16:12.01Ominousand it should be above your buttons
16:12.12DealmanHey can I ask about LUA scripting for WoW here? =)
16:12.46SaiBorkyep Dealman
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16:12.54DealmanSweet, I got an question:
16:13.02Ominouswe guessed
16:13.03DealmanCan I add custom portals via Lua?
16:13.05cncfanaticshmmm
16:13.12cncfanaticsI'd also have to do frame:SetAllPoints(Button); ?
16:13.21cncfanaticsif I want it to be over one of my button frames
16:13.25Ominousya
16:13.52Ominouscustom portals?
16:13.52SaladForkxyu - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrZbgIzIizcest
16:13.54SaladForkJust did that quickly
16:13.58SaladForkSO don't take it point for point
16:14.01Cryectsb: correct! :-p
16:14.21OminousDealman: custom portals?
16:14.28DealmanOminous, like a portal from SW to Duskwood or Burning George
16:14.29Cryectsb: though what I actually want to finish first I think is bug fix seems to be an issue when it wraps
16:14.29sbCryect: font size + style would be important ;p
16:14.33Dealmanand you can spawn them ingame
16:14.33OminousDealman: rofl no
16:14.34sbhmm
16:14.36DealmanxD
16:14.37sbah :)
16:14.46cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72122 would do right ?
16:14.48xyusweet thx salad, i'll check ito ut
16:14.55xyuwow i already messed up :P
16:15.03xyui put my first point (i'm lvl 10) in improved imp
16:15.05SaladForkWell
16:15.07SaladForkThe bottom line
16:15.08xyulol
16:15.11Cryectsb: its actually possible to change them already you juts have to do /script Relog.db.profile.Font="whatever" etc :-p
16:15.12SaladForkIs stay away from Destro like the plague
16:15.21SaladForkIt's only good at 70, and with good gear
16:15.24DealmanOminous, you know a portal how to add custom portals to your private server? x)
16:15.25xyuok
16:15.36DealmanI've been searching like an cookie monster searching for cookies >_<<
16:15.36sbCryect: hm :o
16:15.40SaladForkAnd as demo, you'll be walking around with a Felguard at 51+, and a VWer before then
16:15.44SaladForkSo improved. succy and improved imp are useless
16:15.52xyutrue
16:15.53cncfanaticsAfli for lvl'ing ftw ?
16:16.41xyudo i get voidwalker at 10?
16:16.45SaladForkThough impr. succy could be useful if you want slightly more reliable CC later on
16:16.46SaladForkYep
16:16.53SaladForkYou get soemthing every 10 levels, pretty much
16:16.55xyuah i better go get it then lol
16:17.08Dealman^-^
16:17.12Ominouscncfanatics: i made a few changes
16:17.21cncfanaticsmine doesnt work :(
16:18.50Ominousthen you will have to add SetScripts for on drag which move the bar with it
16:19.13DealmanHmm... try to change the 4 to 7
16:20.35SaiBorkeuhm, guys? anyone knows how to implement ItemPrice?
16:20.54DealmanYes
16:20.59DealmanBut first you need to change 4 to 7
16:20.59SaryaiIf I were to do a "if broadcaster == 1 and string.find(msg, "gir.channel set ")" and wanted to catch the next word, how would I do that? pil's not being incredibly helpful on that point.
16:21.25AmadeoInteresting
16:21.26Amadeohttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7420-zMail.html
16:22.15SaladFork"i will write a intrduction for it but not now"
16:22.15SaladForkXD
16:22.37AKXHmm, would there be use for more notification sounds for Parrot et al?
16:22.48SaladForkYep
16:22.58AKXI could make some...
16:23.08SaladForkOr just use SharedMedia
16:23.23AKXWell, more sounds for SharedMedia then.
16:24.28SaryaiAnyone? Little help on that search?
16:24.55Ominouscncfanatics: http://cnc.pastey.net/72126 is how bt3 does it
16:25.53Ominoushttp://cnc.pastey.net/72127*
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16:26.44DominousxD
16:26.44cncfanaticsOminous, love
16:27.07Ominouscncfanatics:  i addded a link the the bar class file
16:27.11Ominousbrb
16:27.38cncfanaticsOminous, that doesnt tell me how it creates the frames
16:27.42cncfanaticsonly how it unlocks them :(
16:28.00DominousTo add them, change 4 to 7. Then press file, add - 7
16:28.37cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72122 is my current code and it dsnt make appear shit sadly :p
16:31.56*** part/#wowace Dominous (i=Dealman@212.247.249.193)
16:32.19SaiBorkso nobody knows anything about itemprice :(
16:32.53SaryaiNothin', sorry.
16:32.59SaladForkSai, try looking at another addon that does what you want
16:33.06cncfanaticsOminous, nvm it works :p
16:33.16SaiBorkthey arent making any sence, thats the problem
16:33.19SaladForkMay I recommend Fubar GarbageFu?
16:34.29CIA-1403cryect * r46360 10Relog/parse.lua: Relog - Fixes a bug when the combat log loops
16:35.24Ominouscncfanatics: back
16:36.03SaladForkIs there an Ace2'ed DamageMeters?
16:36.08OminousViolation
16:36.16SaladForkDoes it work for more than just the owner?
16:36.25xyuViolation, recount, and there's another
16:36.29Cryectwouldn't be much a damage meter
16:36.35Cryectif it only worked for the owner
16:36.41Cryectassessment
16:36.45xyuthat's it
16:36.49SaladForkI think Recount is for personal dps tracking
16:36.50cncfanaticsOminous, its working
16:36.57Ominouscncfanatics: =D
16:36.58cncfanaticsatm they're clickable-through , so I'm enabling mouse on em
16:37.03ulicSaladFork: Assessment
16:37.09cncfanaticsnow lets change how layout works
16:37.10xyuRecount works for me
16:37.16CryectRecount isn't for personal dps tracking
16:37.17cncfanaticsI'm gonna anchor all buttons to their dragger
16:37.18ulicoh cryect said that :)
16:37.21xyutracks anyone in raid/group
16:37.33SaladFork*sigh* No Wiki page for it
16:37.42Cryectno wiki page for what?
16:37.46SaladForkAssessment
16:37.58CryectOh guess no one reput up the old one
16:40.00SaiBorkbit late, but Recount is the best
16:40.37SaladForkI remember looking that up and seeing no mention of syncing between players
16:40.43SaiBorkIt tracks dps from full raids, but you can also click on the bars to see info about the attacks, so how many misses, how many crits, nice graphs and all
16:40.50SaiBorkit has now
16:40.55SaiBorkor it should have
16:41.13SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount
16:41.13SaladFork.wiki Recount
16:42.07CryectRecount syncs
16:42.11SaladForkDoes it?
16:42.15SaladForkI'm considering getting it then
16:42.17CryectI would hope I know
16:42.25xyulol
16:42.25CryectIt only syncs with Recount users
16:42.30SaladForkAuthor Cryect
16:42.31SaladForkXD
16:43.22Cryectalso both assessment and recount try  to assign PoM to the correct priest, and Recount as well assigns lifeblooms and earthshields to the caster if they are running recount (unfortunately to get the info needed have to be that player)
16:43.32SaladForkOh, awesome
16:43.41SaladForkYeah, I tend to have the last say in my guild when it comes to what mods we use
16:43.48SaladForkWe're using Omen for threat, and loving it (replacing KTM)
16:43.56SaladForkBut the only replacement I could find for DamageMeters was SWStats
16:43.57[dRaCo]is there anything like += in lua?
16:43.59CryectRecount, is a little heavy on memory usage though
16:44.01SaladForkAnd while I configured it and am using it
16:44.03SaladForkIt's just....m essy
16:44.13SaiBorkcan also use recount for threat, cant you Cryect?
16:44.18xyuIs there a reason recounts damage in the numbers is always lower when compared to other dmg meters?   is this just an accuracy issue of the other dmg meters?
16:44.24xyui compared it to sws
16:44.39CryectIf you want, you can I don't use it personally for threat
16:44.53CryectThe damage numbers are normally spot on for me
16:45.00Cryectif you are the only one using it though
16:45.02xyuwhen comparing to other damage meters?
16:45.05SaladForkCryect - is the title bar dynamic?
16:45.06Cryectit might not be that accurate
16:45.09xyuah ok
16:45.10SaiBorki use omen for it though, just mentioning its possible
16:45.27Cryectthe title bar isn't dynamic in teh sense no personal numbers (planning to add that though0
16:45.28xyuyeah i'm the only one using it but other people are catching on.   my guild is stubborn when it comes to addons
16:46.04SaladForkK, because the one thing I actually DID like about SWS (unlike everything else), is that I could set it to show damage info, and my DPS in the title bar
16:46.04xyui tried to explain to a guy how to use outfitter, pretty easy mod, he got so frustrated he went back to itemrack
16:46.09ccKephow I looooooooove it
16:46.11SaladForkThanks Cryect, downloading it now, =D
16:46.11ccKep18:05'10.750Déie's Earth Shock resisted by Kael'thas Sunstrider
16:46.11ccKep18:05'11.093Déie gains 15 Mana from Mana Spring of Mana Spring Totem V
16:46.11ccKep18:05'12.703Kael'thas Sunstrider's Fireball hits Déie for 21971 Fire damage
16:46.26ccKepscrew that...
16:46.33nevcairieland whats wrong with that now?
16:46.37nevcairiel:P
16:46.39ccKep.
16:46.42Cryectget more +hit!
16:46.49Cryector roll better numbers :-p
16:46.50ccKepdies TWICE in that kill
16:46.59ccKepthaladred double gaze
16:47.13ccKepcombatrezz -> mana tide -> mana potion -> kael thas earth shock resist, fireball -> dead...
16:47.15nevcairieleven with double gaze its stupidity to die there :P
16:47.30ccKepsolo healer on telonicus druid tank
16:47.33SaladFork.wau add Recount
16:47.34SaladFork.wau update
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16:48.51SaladFork.modman del SW_Stats SW_Stats_Profiles SW_UniLog
16:48.57xyudo i have to be dead to see death details?
16:51.15ulicit has to have recorded someone dying probably, you or party/raid memeber
16:52.05xyuwell i've died, but it was like a half hour ago
16:53.18ulicnot sure in recount, in assessment it keeps the data until you join a new party or reset it.  It's possible it doesn't work if you're solo, dunno, just guessing.
16:53.45SaladForkWoah
16:53.48SaladForkRecount records per fight
16:53.49SaladForkand overall
16:53.50SaladForkand wow
16:53.55SaladForkCryect, I'm officially converted
16:53.58IronhandI just requested all quest notes from guild through Cartographer Quest Objectives and am now getting spammed semi-cryptic messages from one of my guildies - anything I can do to prevent that? (my cartographer is fairly recent)
16:54.14omegais it possible for an addon to modify the AH list?
16:54.19SaladForkCryect - When you reset stats, does it reset for all synced members?
16:54.26omegaI would like to see on recipes what skill they require
16:54.38omegaby for instance replacing the lvl column
16:55.19cncfanaticsyay, my reset code works PERFECTLY, it rocks :)
16:55.34Saryaiif string.find(msg, "^",g2,"%[") - bad argument #3 to 'find' (number expected, got table)
16:56.08SaryaiThat line SHOULD be searching for variable g2 with a bracket after it.
16:57.20SaladForkOh yuck
16:57.36SaladForkChanging the ittle color for Recount hcanges the background color for the config window
16:57.37SaladForkXD
16:57.40SaryaiSaladFork, can you help? >.>
16:57.40SaladForktitle*
16:57.48[dRaCo]string concat in lua is .., not ,
16:57.49SaladForkSar - sure, got a link to the string.find syntax?
16:58.08SaryaiEh, it was giving me a concat error before.
16:58.15SaryaiTook it out to see.
16:58.44[dRaCo]string.find(msg, "^" .. g2 .. "%[")
16:59.07SaryaiTrying.
16:59.36cncfanaticsmake sure g2 exists before trying
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17:07.02CIA-1403helium * r46361 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (4 files): FuBar_GroupFu: updated zhTW localization
17:07.36SaladForkHey Cryect - you take requests? =P
17:07.58uliche's not a lounge singer :)
17:08.11SaladForkHe was here a bit earlier, *shrug*
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17:12.16SaryaiGIR\Core.lua:41: attempt to index field 'char' (a nil value) ...GAH!
17:12.21Cryecthmmm?
17:12.34SaladForkThere you are, =P
17:12.39SaladForkYou take requests/suggestions?
17:12.48CryectSure but won't guarantee anything :-p
17:12.53SaladForkHehe, of course
17:12.58SaiBork!seen bam
17:13.01SaladForkWell, for one, and most urgently, some way to lock the Config window
17:13.15CryectWhy do you want to lock the config window?
17:13.19SaladForkerrr
17:13.20SaladForkthe main window*
17:13.25Cryectdo /recount lock
17:13.40SaladForkOkay, slash comands, =P
17:14.07SaladForkSecond, would it be possible to separate the title/background colors for the main/config windows?
17:14.18SaladForkI like my damage meters background transparent, but that makes the config... annoyign to use
17:14.46CryectHmmm that be somewhat hard due to the way its implemented :-p
17:14.51CryectBut I know what you mean
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17:15.00SaladFork=)
17:15.02SaladForkAnd finally
17:15.10SaladForkConfigure what ear row in the main window actually shows
17:15.23SaladForkFor example, since it orders by damage, I really don't need to see the rank ("1.", "2.", etc.)
17:15.30SaladForkeach*
17:15.36SaladForkWow, my typing's getting worse
17:15.40CryectYeah, I like to add that in
17:15.51Cryectjust been doing other things
17:16.27SaladForkHmm
17:16.30cncfanatics~sene NArgiddley
17:16.31SaryaiAlright...
17:16.33Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72128
17:16.35SaladForkPerhaps a "short name" version for the title of the main window
17:16.40SaladForkLike I have a thin damage window
17:16.41cncfanaticsNargiddley, please gimme a shout when ur around
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17:16.43cncfanatics~seen Nargiddley
17:16.45purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 45m 18s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics, try that'.
17:16.49SaryaiThat's what I have... Now apparently it's not saving those defaults, at all.
17:16.51cncfanaticsfound a slightly anoying bug
17:17.01SaladForkCryect - because mine's thin, "Damage Done" is overlapped by the buttons
17:17.03SaryaiAnd because of that I can't do much more with it.
17:17.04SaladForkWhich isn't a huge issue
17:17.12SaladForkSince i can right click to change/view what I have, and the buttons I use are on top
17:17.22SaladForkBut just something to consider, =)
17:17.24SaladForkOther than that, great job
17:17.25Cryectyep
17:17.26SaladForkYou have me converted
17:17.51SaryaiSalad, mind checking that code? You're better than I am at this. >.>
17:18.16SaladForkSar - I've only ever written one piece of Lua code, and it was last night
17:18.22SaladForkI'm just as much, if not more, of a newbie at this than you are
17:18.37SaryaiYou've got more programming experience. And the pil.
17:18.41SaladForklol
17:18.43SaladFork"pil"?
17:18.48Saryai~pil
17:18.48purlmethinks pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1.
17:18.58SaladForkHaha
17:19.05SaladForkNo, I can't say I have it
17:19.10SaryaiClicky.
17:19.10SaladForkI just have WowWiki, WowAce, and Google
17:19.11SaladFork=)
17:19.12SaryaiIt's good stuff.
17:19.28SaladForkI learnt best from watching
17:19.41SaladForkI learnt the Lua syntax and such from fixing addons to work how I wanted them to
17:19.50SaryaiThen fix this one. ^_^
17:19.50SaladForkBut I'll bookmark that, ty, =)
17:19.55SaryaiThat's about how I work.
17:20.01SaladForkSar - what's broken?
17:20.16SaryaiSavedvars apparently aren't defaulting.
17:20.26SaladForkMind rephrasing that?
17:20.29SaladForkNot sure I understand
17:20.32SaiBorkno custom portals are still not possible :P
17:20.33SaryaiGot the code pulled up?
17:20.41SaladForkYep
17:20.44SaiBorkok, i did not send that :S
17:20.47SaiBorksnet*
17:20.54SaryaiLine 5, GIR:RegisterDefaults
17:21.06CIA-1403nevcairiel 072.2 * r46362 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: minor cleanup
17:21.15SaryaiThat's setting the default channel and g1/g2 which are the guilds to relay between.
17:21.16SaladForkhmm
17:21.26SaladForkSar - you try using AceDB-2.0?
17:21.36SaladForkThat's what I used for profiling / saving defaults, and it worked 100%
17:21.58SaiBorkanyone has ever seen Bam/BamED in this channel?
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17:22.06SaryaiI was under the impression that I was already using it.
17:22.10CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46363 10FlexBar2/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
17:22.10CIA-14FlexBar2:
17:22.10CIA-14Core.lua:
17:22.10CIA-14<PROTECTED>
17:22.10CIA-14<PROTECTED>
17:22.11CIA-14Layout.lua:
17:22.12SaladForkOh, you are
17:22.13CIA-14<PROTECTED>
17:22.20SaladForkJust drinking my Mountain Dew now, the caffiene will kick in shortly
17:22.21SaladFork>.<
17:22.23SaryaiGimme a snippet that's worked for you?
17:22.27SaryaiHeh.
17:22.40SaryaiI've got a feeling that the code I have is a bit off.
17:22.49SaladForkIt looks off
17:22.50SaryaiAlso: GIR\Core.lua:41: attempt to index field 'char' (a nil value)
17:22.54SaladForkIs "XX" a variable name?
17:23.02CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46364 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Disabled debugging
17:23.21SaryaiIt's a value. The addon isn't meant to work out of the box.
17:23.33SaryaiJust need something to fill in till it's set up.
17:23.35SaladForkAh, okay
17:23.42SaladForkSar - I used self.db.profile for mine
17:23.51SaladForkAnd :RegisterDefaults("profile",
17:23.54SaryaiI've tried both ways.
17:24.25SaryaiUsing profile would produce some weird results anyway.
17:24.41SaladForkHmm
17:24.47SaryaiThink about it - What if you had more than one guild?
17:24.52SaladForkWould it help you if I sent you my addon?
17:24.55SaladForkIt's relatively short and simple
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17:25.01SaryaiPastey it.
17:25.05SaladForkCore?
17:25.10SaryaiYeah.
17:25.18SaladForkK, it's 100% unreleased
17:25.19SaladForkso sshhhh
17:25.23SaryaiNo worries.
17:25.36SaiBorkbah, im stuck
17:26.03SaladForkSar - http://ace.pastey.net/72129
17:26.12SaladFork(Give a noob a break if I made some silly mistakes)
17:26.28SaryaiActually, first thing I noticed...
17:26.31SaladFork?
17:26.35SaryaiYour defaults are a table.
17:26.41SaryaiI tried that, it won't work for me...
17:26.41cncfanaticsheh,time to ask this again , any volonteers to test flexbar ? (a)
17:26.43SaladForkA nil table
17:26.50SaryaiYeah.
17:27.06SaryaiThat's what mine were before I started getting concat errors because they were tables.
17:27.10SaladForkYeah, I got the idea from Farmerfu
17:27.16AKXIs WAU working now?
17:27.24SaryaiIt wasn't before?
17:27.36AKXSomeone's saying it isn't working for them now, heh.
17:27.37SaladForkSar - http://ace.pastey.net/72130
17:27.41SaladForkThat's FarmerFu's defaults
17:27.47SaladForkI got the way I did it from that
17:28.07SaryaiAlright. I can work with that.
17:28.13SaryaiNow...
17:28.42SaryaiHow did you get the addon to NOT throw "attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value)" at you?
17:28.56SaladForkI never got such an error
17:29.01SaryaiStrange.
17:29.02SaladForkUm
17:29.08SaladForkYeah
17:29.13SaladForkIf you can paste some code that does
17:29.15SaladForkI may be able to find out why
17:29.15SaladFork=)
17:29.27SaryaiLine 41 in mine.
17:29.33mitch0hm. eu-ptr is kinda shakey now :(
17:29.35SaladFork--Main relay function.
17:29.36SaryaiReplace 'profile' with 'self'
17:29.40SaladForkThat's what it's showing for line 41
17:29.48SaladForkI'm viewing http://ace.pastey.net/72128
17:29.53SaryaiOh.
17:30.03SaryaiI think I hit an extra enter in there somewhere.
17:30.05SaryaiSec
17:31.11SaladForkNo rush
17:31.15SaryaiAlright... Not getting that anymore.
17:31.30SaryaiLooks like I hadn't done a reloadui from my previous fix.
17:31.35SaladForkheh
17:31.36SaladForkYay
17:31.51SaryaiAlright.
17:32.00SaryaiSo, as soon as I try sending a guild message.
17:32.13SaryaiGIR-10001\Core.lua:44: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'g2' (a nil value)
17:32.27Saryaig2 should already be set by the defaults.
17:32.46SaladForkIt obviously wasn't
17:33.13SaryaiAye.
17:33.15SaryaiSo...
17:33.19SaryaiWhy is it not set?
17:34.01SaladForkg2 = GIR.db.char.g2
17:34.09SaladForkAre you sure GIR.db.char.g2 is ~nil?
17:35.01SaryaiThat's what the defaults are for.
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17:35.15SaladForkWell, if your character saved GIR.db.char.g2 before the defaults were there....
17:35.30SaryaiHmm.
17:35.32Silviu-Funkeh` wtb Black temple map ;p maybe + bosses :P ah and bosses & loot on Hyjal pls ;p
17:35.41Silviu-Funkeh` ( Cartographer )
17:35.42Silviu-;)
17:35.51SaryaiMight be able to do something about that.
17:36.04[LS]ZoAnyone know how i can get rid of the POM-spam by recount?
17:36.21SaladFork~pom
17:36.22purlit has been said that pom is Phase Of Moon, if you live in emacs-ville :)
17:36.34SaladFork?
17:36.45[LS]ZoPrayer of Mending
17:36.55SaladForkHehe
17:37.01Cryect[LS]Zo upgradee
17:37.02[LS]ZoSpams my chat every time a POM jumps
17:37.05Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72132
17:37.11[LS]Zoand i'm raiding with 3 hioly priests >_>
17:37.15SaladForkhahahaha
17:37.16Cryectthe latest version doesn't have that :-p
17:37.18SaryaiXD
17:37.29SaryaiAlright.
17:37.34[LS]Zook
17:37.53[LS]Zoupdated earlier today, but then my chat disappeared...
17:37.54SaryaiWhoops... Sec, new pastey coming.
17:38.04Cryectyou chat disappeared?
17:38.04SaladForkWhat's the in-game /script command to echo something? >.<
17:38.20SaryaiThere.
17:38.24CryectIt doesn't touch anything to do with chat so thats strange
17:38.26Saryaihttp://ace.pastey.net/72133
17:38.35sedai|like %t?
17:39.16SaryaiMoved those settings down to a little after the addon's loaded. That'll give some time for the database.
17:40.02SaladForkAnyone?
17:40.38SaryaiUmm...
17:41.00Saryai./script self.Print("
17:41.04SaryaiMaybe?
17:41.14SaladForkattempt to index global 'self' (a nil value)
17:41.22SaladForkself:Print returns the same error
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17:41.49SaryaiDunno.
17:41.50cncfanaticsSaladFork
17:41.54SaladForkyeah cnc?
17:41.59cncfanaticsin what code ?
17:42.04SaladForkNo code, in-game
17:42.05SaladForkThrough /script
17:42.11cncfanaticswhat did u type ? p
17:42.21SaladFork/script self:Print("Hello!")
17:42.26cncfanaticsofc it dsnt work
17:42.33PProvostWHo is self in that sentence?
17:42.35cncfanaticswhy would that work ? :p
17:42.43Grum_Why is baggins broken!
17:42.44Grum_GAH!
17:42.47SaladForkcnc - I tried print(), Print(), echo(), Echo()
17:42.51SaladForkWhat _does_ work?
17:43.00PProvostI've used this...
17:43.12Grum_AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("text") works ;)
17:43.13PProvost<PROTECTED>
17:43.32SaladForkHehe
17:43.33SaladForkwe're such cheaters
17:43.40cncfanaticsif u want to print something
17:43.47cncfanaticsu have to do ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello");
17:43.49cncfanaticsthats without ace
17:43.52Grum_yup
17:43.56SaladForkI'll go with PProvost's method, =D
17:43.57Grum_but who hasn't got ace?!
17:44.03SaladForkIt's just for local use
17:44.07SaladForkI'm trying to echo some variables
17:44.12Grum_for local use?
17:44.15SaladForkI've been using SendChatMessage(), =P
17:44.15Grum_you are making an addon?
17:44.20SaladForkGrum - Have been for a while
17:44.23SaladForkI'm just having fun now
17:44.24Grum_then just include the AceConsole-2.0 mixin
17:44.29SaladForkGrum - this is in-game
17:44.37Grum_oh
17:44.41SaladForkI'm trying ot just print a variable to my chat window
17:44.43SaladForkIn-game
17:44.43SaladForkthat's it
17:44.47Grum_well if you have ace AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("text") will always work
17:44.49PProvostOr write an "addon" that defines a global print() function. I did that too.
17:44.52SaladForkHaha
17:44.55Grum_and if you have AceConsole-2.0 loaded
17:45.00Grum_you can also do /print text
17:45.04SaladForkAnd most games let you use "print Hi!" or "echo hi!"
17:45.04PProvostAnd besides, doesn't /print work?
17:45.12SaladForkOMG
17:45.13SaladForkTY
17:45.16SaladForkThat's what I was looking for
17:45.20SaladForkTook you guys long enough
17:45.21PProvostThat is Ace btw
17:45.28Grum_it is AceConsole :)
17:45.41Grum_you never said it was from the chat window! ;D
17:45.42PProvostSo it will work if any addon had loaded AceConsole
17:45.56SaladForkWhich considering my large stash of Ace mods, it has
17:45.59SaladForkTy
17:46.02PProvostder u go
17:46.05SaladFork/print was exactly what I was looking for
17:46.38PProvostI use it all the time for stupid things like quick math problems, printing state of stuff, etc.
17:46.43SaladForkThis is why being a newbie is better than being an expert
17:46.47SaladForkEveryone can answer your questions, =D
17:46.49SaryaiHehe.
17:46.59SaladForkPProvost - I use mIRC for all my lazy stuff
17:47.01SaladFork1 + 1 = 2
17:47.02SaladFork.calc 1 + 1
17:47.06SaladFork.wau update
17:47.08SaladForketc, etc
17:47.17Salad`Brb.brb
17:47.18SaladFork.back
17:47.20PProvostBut I'm in the game, so /print 1+1
17:47.30SaladForkUh oh
17:47.31SaladFork.id
17:47.33SaladFork=)
17:47.40SaladForkI have dual monitor
17:47.43SaladForkGame in one, mIRC in the other
17:47.45SaladFork=D
17:48.00PProvostStill a task switch and I'm even lazier than that
17:48.00SaladForkAnywhere, where was I
17:48.11Grum_in #wowace
17:48.17SaiBorkyeah getting help
17:48.19SaladForkSar
17:48.21SaiBorkwish i had some :P
17:48.21PProvostasking about printing stuff
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17:48.27SaladForkType /print GIR.db.char.g2
17:48.31SaladForkSee if it's nil or not
17:49.38SaladForkSai - with?
17:50.09SaiBorkgetting those stupid values from a vendor
17:50.12SaladForkPProvost - you just reminded me to check myself
17:50.14SaladForkBased on the uptime of my WinXP box, e-Penis is 16.18 inches (41.09 cm) erect! Largest erection ever was 25.5 inches (64.76 cm)!
17:50.15SaladFork.epenis
17:50.18Ominousany forum admins here?
17:50.40SaladForkSai - I think someone was asking about that last night and they were told they'd have to scan the tooltip
17:50.53SaladForkBut Sai, why don't you check another addon that does it, like GarbageFu?
17:51.31SaiBorkanother one i could check, from all other i did check, it didnt make any sence
17:51.51PProvostI've seen issues between them all. KInda annoying.
17:52.29SaiBorkwell, getting the data from my saved files is working out perfectly
17:52.49SaiBorkand also checking if an item is damaged, so it doesnt have to scan
17:53.00SaiBorkits just getting the value itself that is the problem
17:53.18SaladForkGarbageFu didn't help?
17:53.38CIA-1403cwdg * r46365 10BigWigs_AQ40/BugFamily.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: update zhCN local
17:54.16SaiBorkhavent checked that one yet, just got it, will check now
17:54.17SaladForkHave you tried using the Auctioneer API and borrowing the data from that?
17:54.27SaladForkGarbageFu is great, =)
17:54.28SaiBorkinformant is a mess
17:54.36SaiBorkinformant is HUGE with code
17:54.41SaladForkI figured as much
17:55.06SaladForkfunction GarbageFu:GetVendorValue(item)
17:55.07SaladForkThat might be it
17:55.20SaladForkfunction GarbageFu:GetInformantVendorPrice(item)
17:55.25SaladForkfunction GarbageFu:GetWoWEconVendorPrice(item)
17:55.28SaladForkfunction GarbageFu:GetPriceMasterVendorPrice(item)
17:55.29SaladFork=D
17:55.38SaladForkThere's a whole .lua full of 'em
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17:56.23SaladForkHiya ck
17:57.36mitch0stupid ppl come to the ptr to gank at IF... can't test
17:58.04SaiBorkits back up
17:58.21SaladForkSai - getting anything good from GarbageFu?
17:59.08SaiBorknot yet
17:59.18SaiBorkbusy with checking something now
18:00.03SaiBorkok gonna check it now
18:00.14Funkeh`Silviu-: soon (tm)
18:01.22SaladForkSaiBork - try GarbageFu_Vendor.lua
18:02.59charon"Antagonist-42180\Antagonist.lua:553: attempt to concatenate local 'unit' (a nil value)"
18:03.15Garoun|Loupanancie automaton has druid unshifting added :P now if they just fix flight form :)
18:03.15charonthat's funny. i don't even have anything antagonist related running, except the addon is loaded (forgot to turn it off)
18:03.31Garoun|Loupanait doesn't currently unshift you from flightform like EzDismount does
18:04.16SaladForkLol @ lazy druids
18:04.18SaiBorkpfft, garbagefu makes no sence either
18:04.23SaiBorkmaybe i should just give up
18:05.10SaiBorkwhy cant they just make it simple, like im trying to...
18:06.29Ominouscncfanatics: im off home now, ill be there in about 90mins
18:06.49Garoun|Loupanano saladfork, the 'defualt' method blizzard uses is completely stupid
18:07.08SaladForkGaroun - I'm talking about being too lazy to unshift
18:07.20SaladForkI have a druid, and I just unshift when I want to do something in caster form
18:07.59Garoun|LoupanaI undesrtand that
18:08.11Garoun|LoupanaI use it so I can hit ANY form key to go to caster
18:08.19SaladForkGaroun - Me too
18:08.21Garoun|Loupanathere's no reason I should have to click the same form I'm in to shfit to caster
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18:08.29CIA-1403cryect * r46366 10Relog/ (7 files):
18:08.29CIA-14Relog - Removes old file
18:08.29CIA-14- Adds time to log display
18:08.35SaladForkGaroun - I agree with you completely
18:08.38SaladForkI have a keybound macro for that
18:08.38Garoun|Loupanablizzard forces you to click the form you're in
18:08.40SaladFork1-line macro, lol
18:08.49SaladForkWell 2, for a nice #showtooltip
18:08.53SaladFork#show, rather
18:09.19SaladForkI have macros for all my shape shifts
18:09.45SaladForkWhich is basically "If I'm not in any form, shift to this form. If I'm in a form other than this one, unshift. If I'm in this one. do nothing"
18:09.49SaladForkSo I can spam the shift I want
18:09.56SaladForkAnd then I have one that's just "If I'm in a stance, unshift."
18:10.27weabGaroun|Loupana: it's intentional
18:10.27Garoun|Loupanabut creating a macro requires you to waste another actionbar :P
18:10.36SaladForkI use a hidden Bartender bar
18:10.46weabwhy the hell would you want to automatically shift out of flight form while you're in flight
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18:11.01Garoun|Loupanawith automaton and ezdismount if I'm in bear I can click cat twice and be in cat
18:11.12SaladForkGaroun - i can do it without your two addons
18:11.15SaladForkI just hit Shift-2 twice
18:11.15SaladFork=)
18:11.19weabwhat does that have to do with my question
18:11.33SaladForkGaroun - want my macros?
18:11.49Garoun|Loupanano :P  a lot of people use the macro
18:11.59SaladForkSuit yourself, =)
18:12.28Garoun|LoupanaI mainly use the flight shift for when i'm doing a dropbear or shifting into cat and stealthing before I land :)
18:12.57weabthen you can edit the code by hand and remove the if not IsFlying()
18:12.59Garoun|Loupanaof course I also make it a point to not go near my keys when I'm flying uless I want to drop
18:13.15weabthe rest of us don't want to accidentally press a key and fall to our death
18:13.48SaladForkWeab - either way the script is, someone will complian, XD
18:13.52Garoun|Loupanathat's perfectly fine, I had tweaked ez to give the option of off or on :)
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18:14.39Garoun|LoupanaI just despise the macro method because it's not natural :) but that's my opinion
18:15.02weabnatural?
18:15.07Garoun|LoupanaI started out playing a warrior
18:15.20Garoun|Loupanawhen I wanted to chance a stance or something I clicked the button I wanted to go to and went there
18:15.33SaladForkAh, you're a clicker.
18:15.36Garoun|Loupanawith druid you have to click the form your in, then click where you want to go
18:15.40Garoun|LoupanaI do both
18:16.03hazenlooks like public access to the Trac Timeline has been removed. any way i can get a Trac login with permission to view this?
18:16.05Garoun|Loupanadepends on what I'm doing at the time
18:16.17SaladForkAre you trying to tell me you can't spare an action bar Garoun?
18:16.27Garoun|LoupanaI'm trying to say I shouldn't need one :P
18:16.34SaladForkGaroun - That's Blizz
18:16.51Garoun|LoupanaI'd rather use a backend script to correct what I consider a poor method, then creating a new bar and macros :)
18:16.55Garoun|Loupanait's all preference
18:17.08SaladForkYes it is
18:17.43Garoun|Loupanawas funny during beta because I couldn't play my druid while forced to shift the default way
18:17.50Garoun|Loupanait was actually painful for me :P
18:18.02SaladForkWhy, no addons in PTR?
18:18.18Garoun|Loupanaduring beta there wasn't a shift addon ready at the stage I was in
18:18.23SaladForkOh
18:18.41Garoun|Loupanathankfully Iriel gave us the stanceheaders example and all was well again :P
18:18.51SaladForkI'm going to stick with my very original comment of "lol @ lazy druids"
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18:19.06SaladForkActually, you're a druid
18:19.08SaladForkI've been meaning to ask
18:19.13SaladForkIs there a good addon to keep track of your mana when shifted?
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18:19.18weabnot really lazy druids
18:19.19SaladForkI tried DruidBar, but it was horribly inaccurate
18:19.20Garoun|LoupanaSmartycat
18:19.28SaladForkAce2?
18:19.35NightHawkTheSanedoes it matter?
18:19.42NightHawkTheSane(the answer is no, btw)
18:19.44SaladForkI need to download it from somewhere
18:19.46Garoun|LoupanaI use to use Druidbar
18:19.47SaladForkI'd have to know where to search for it
18:19.52ckknightSaladFork: what about PitBull?
18:19.56NightHawkTheSanewell, the question isthen "where can i get it?"
18:19.58NightHawkTheSane;)
18:20.04SaladForkck - I don't need a whole unit frames mod, I have X-Perl
18:20.08Garoun|Loupananow I use SmartyCat and SmartyCatManabar
18:20.09SaladForkI just need something to keep track of my mana
18:20.12ckknight*shrug*
18:20.20NightHawkTheSaneGaroun|Loupana: actually, what druid-specific addons do you use/recommend?
18:20.20ckknightI put the druid mana dealy into PitBull
18:20.24SaladForkWhere can I get it?
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18:20.33CyrezPitbull is modular... You don't need to use all of it.
18:20.41Garoun|LoupanaI don't really use many druid specific
18:20.43ckknightwell, you do need to use some of it
18:20.48SaladForkCk - I've been an X-perl user since I started playing, /shrug
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18:21.04ckknightI'm not a fan of brand loyalty
18:21.14SaladForknot loyal, I' m just used to it
18:21.18Grum_ckknight: if you would have some spare time, would you be so kind go explain a bit about how the 'drawing' actually gets done in gatherer? because for someone who hasn't written the code it's not really .. clear :D
18:21.18SaladForkIt has everything I need, and the config for it is superb
18:21.20ckknightprevents you from experiencing something better
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18:21.21Garoun|Loupanaoutside of SmartyCat and GonffBar I use mods most everyone else wood use
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18:21.30ckknightGrum_: gatherer's not my mod
18:21.40SaladForkAnd don't pull that on me, I've gone from KTM->Omen, and DM->SWS->Recount
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18:21.42Garoun|LoupanaI use yours also ck
18:21.44weabwhat if it's ckk brand loyalty
18:21.51Grum_ermmmmm
18:21.56CIA-1403cryect * r46367 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua): Relog - Bug fix related to resetting
18:21.56Grum_sorryyy i meant Cartographer
18:22.01ckknightweab: then it's awesome.
18:22.06Garoun|Loupanathe main reason I use Smarty and GonffBar is because I put both of the bars down under my hud
18:22.17Grum_someone just asked craploads about gatherer .. and i told him not to use it .. but mixing up stuff now =D
18:22.18SaladForkGonffbar?
18:22.27ckknightGrum_: um, it creates frames which create textures, those are placed either on the world map or minimap.
18:22.36Cyrezckk tends to code because he hates the way similar addons work.
18:22.46CyrezTitan, Metamap. *Cough*
18:22.46Grum_what would be the best way for another addon to also draw stuff ontop of the map?
18:22.48Garoun|Loupanagonffbar is a energy tick meter
18:22.56SaladForkOh
18:22.58Grum_somehow finding that frame? or writing on WorldMapButton?
18:22.59Garoun|Loupanait's just a simple bar by itself :)
18:23.00SaladForkI just use EnergyWatch
18:23.04ckknightCyrez: pretty much
18:23.05Garoun|LoupanaI use to use EW
18:23.19SaladForkX-Perl tracks energy ticks on my unit frames, and EnergyWatch does the job for my HUD
18:23.29ckknightCyrez: I don't come up with new ideas, my creativity stems from improving that which has already been thought up
18:23.47CyrezWhen I switched from Titan to FuBar, I realized that Titan wasn't even worth crapping on.
18:23.55Grum_hehe
18:23.57SaladForkYen
18:24.02SaladForkI went Titan->Fubar myself
18:24.09SaladForkAnd everything else -> WowAce
18:24.09SaladFork=P
18:24.25albmyeh theres loads of good non-ace mods
18:24.28Grum_so ckknight, when will we see an auctioneer-done-ck-style? :)
18:24.40weabi always thought titan blew. i thought it sucked so bad i hated on the very concept of bars
18:24.43ckknightnever
18:24.49Grum_hehe
18:24.57NightHawkTheSane~logs
18:25.55purlwell, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
18:25.55albauctioneer works great if you just use it on your bankalt
18:25.55ruinnaforthelove.. has anyone else had an issue lately with tradeskill links and auctioneere?
18:25.55SaladForkGaroun - where can I get smartycat?
18:25.55Garoun|Loupanaace
18:25.55NightHawkTheSanebah, i'll just grep my own.
18:25.55Garoun|Loupana<PROTECTED>
18:25.55SaladForkWhere from?
18:25.55Grum_but what could you advise me to do? you've created an own 'overlay' over WorldMapButton in Cartographer? Would it be wise for me to create another one over that? or just draw in that frame?
18:25.55Garoun|Loupanawowace :P
18:25.55SaladForkWowInt and Curse don't seem to have it
18:25.57SaladForkOh, I could have sworn someone says it wasn't on Ace
18:26.12Garoun|Loupanahttp://files.wowace.com/
18:26.16ckknightGrum_: oh, because of the insanity of alpha values.
18:26.27ckknightGrum_: what do you want to do, though?
18:26.30Grum_not really, i'm just pondering what is the best
18:26.35Grum_Cartographer_Routes :)
18:26.36SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Smartycat
18:26.36SaladFork.wiki Smartycat
18:26.47Grum_was planning to draw lines between points using Graph-1.0
18:26.50SaladFork*gasp*
18:26.52SaladForkNo wiki page
18:26.53SaladFork=(
18:27.13ckknightGrum_: okay, but yes, you'll basically make a frame over the WorldMapButton (or whatever overlay I made) and draw on that.
18:27.42SaladFork.wau add SmartyCat SmartyCatManaBar
18:27.44SaladFork.wau update
18:27.46SaladForkThanks Gar
18:28.39Grum_ckknight: i saw Graph-1.0 creates a new 'button' or 'frame' for each line-part. but it doesn't really seem to reuse it
18:28.58ckknightthat's an issue with Graph-1.0
18:29.07ckknightbut can't be prevented.
18:29.45Grum_can you reuse them if you code it right?
18:29.48SarozWTB screenshot of Relog
18:29.51Grum_because i might spend time on doing that first then
18:29.59ckknightno
18:30.08ckknightas I said, it can't be prevented
18:31.28SaladForkCryect - You there?
18:32.41Grum_ckknight: cant you flag a used 'button/frame' and rescale and retexture it?
18:33.02ckknightno
18:33.06ckknightwell, yes
18:33.12Grum_takes some more administation
18:33.16ckknightbut Graph-1.0 should do that...
18:33.34Grum_hmmm u didn't see a way to 'turn of' drawed pieces
18:33.43Grum_except for manually :Hide()ing
18:35.17Grum_ah well that might be something i want to code then
18:35.28Grum_to be able to ':MarkForReuse' orso
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18:39.21Xinhuanzzz took 30 minutes to read the kael'thas article on wowwiki lol
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18:42.14SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount
18:42.14SaladFork.wiki Recount
18:43.14ulicwhat's with all the .this .that stuff you're doing?
18:43.21SaladForkLocal mIRC scripts
18:43.27SaladForkThough I have a few you guys can use
18:43.29SaladForkLike .calc
18:43.49SaladForkI'm lazy and have mIRC do stuff for me
18:43.57AKXPsh, SaladFork, I wrote a bot to do that. ;P
18:44.03SaladForkAKX - lol
18:44.05SaladFork1 + 1 = 2
18:44.05SaladFork.calc 1 + 1
18:44.07SaladForkBased on the uptime of my WinXP box, e-Penis is 16.23 inches (41.22 cm) erect! Largest erection ever was 25.5 inches (64.76 cm)!
18:44.07SaladFork.epenis
18:44.08SaladFork=D
18:44.57SaladForkMy birthday is in 50wks 6days 9hrs 14mins 57secs!
18:44.57SaladFork.bday
18:45.10SaladForkSchool starts in 55wks 3days 16hrs 34mins 45secs!
18:45.10SaladFork.school
18:45.14ThorgardThat's some pretty pointless stuff. ;P
18:45.19AKX^
18:45.21SaladForkThor - I disagree wholeheartedly
18:45.26SaladForklol
18:45.29SaladForkI have mIRC doing some useful stuff
18:45.34SaladForkBut I mostly use it as a toy
18:45.34uliccan't that be done in pm's or something?
18:45.45SaladForkUlic - it can be done in local echos and slash commands
18:45.47SaladForkBut that's boring
18:45.53SaladForkI have ~200 commands
18:46.00SaladForkBut most require IRCop, or Op in a channel
18:46.03SaladForkWhich I don't have in this server/channel
18:46.09ulicbut we don't want to see them all.
18:46.21SaladForkHehe, okay
18:47.49*** join/#wowace zenBot (i=zen@servut.us)
18:47.59zenBotHello, SaladFork. ;P
18:48.03SaladForkHaha
18:48.06AKX!ca 5+5
18:48.06zenBot5+5 = 10.0
18:48.22AKX!remind in 5 minutes: Pizza's ready.
18:48.23zenBotAdded reminder "Pizza's ready." on 21:53:29 08/12/07
18:48.35AKXDo that in mIRC, SaladFork. ;P
18:48.41SaladForkI can
18:48.43Gnarfozeasily enough done
18:48.45AKX. /timer my ass.
18:48.46Gnarfozbut
18:48.51Gnarfozmake it local, pls =.+
18:48.56SaladFork$duration($calc($ctime($1)-$ctime))
18:50.07SaladForkmIRC is pretty boring until you get into Hash Tables and GUIs
18:50.22*** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-71-197-67-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
18:51.01*** join/#wowace N3cr0m4ncer (n=Necroman@p508A36B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:51.22AKXSaladFork, mIRC's scripting language is comparable to someone forcing 3.18 meters of victorian wrought iron fence up somewhere where it shouldn't be.
18:51.30SaladForkAKX - I know
18:51.41AKXzenBot is written in Python. :)
18:51.41SaladForkTrust me, I know, >.<
18:51.51AKXAnd the !ca module is Lua, actually. :D
18:51.55SaladForkI have an IRC bot written in PHP for a web game I used to admin
18:51.59SaladForkYou could look up player stats and such
18:52.02SaladForkThat actually gives me an idea
18:52.08KillmoreCare meter: [|------]
18:52.09SaladForkCan anyone say "!armorylookup"? Hehe
18:52.19AKXYeah, I can, SaladFork, watch:
18:52.19ThraePython is an evil language made by snakes, the incarnation of the Devil.
18:52.21AKX!armorylookup
18:52.25SaladForkXD
18:52.27AKXTa-da!
18:52.39AKXThough yeah... does the armory have XML output?
18:52.54SaladForkNo, but allakhazam does, given an item name or ID
18:53.08SaladForkBut I can easily parse the Armory using regexp's for any info I need
18:53.27nevcairieli thought you can trick the armory in xml output
18:53.40ulicthe armory is pretty much all xml
18:53.41SaladForkWell, I used FireBug to track the AJAX requests it sends
18:53.46SaladForkIt's yucky stuff
18:53.47SaladForkVery messy
18:53.52SaladForkWhich also makes it very slow and inefficient
18:53.53FryGuyarmory has xml output if you trick it in to thinking you're a browser :p
18:53.59SaiBorkok, giving up on coding, just cant do it, bye bye, stupid vendor values
18:54.09AKXOh, heh, SaladFork
18:54.19AKX<PROTECTED>
18:54.19AKX<PROTECTED>
18:54.19AKX<PROTECTED>
18:54.19AKX<PROTECTED>
18:54.25AKXIt _is_ XML that is just XSLT'd.
18:54.47ThraeThraeBot parses the XML fine
18:54.50Thrae!c us maelstrom thrae
18:54.53ThraeBotThrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +15 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 917 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]]
18:54.57AKXNeat.
18:55.03FryGuyi heard armory served out html unless it thought you were a browser
18:55.04SaladForkWell, the whole idea behind my bot is now useless
18:55.04SaladForkXD
18:55.11FryGuy!c us burning blade shamala
18:55.14ThraeBotFryGuy: Shamala, Level 70 Human Mage (10/0/51). 7123 HP; 8276 Mana; 187 mana regen; 158 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 677 +spell dmg; 5.02% dodge;[[ TBR: 1206 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gdx52 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32rugo ]]
18:55.23SaladForkGet your spell hit up, =P
18:55.30SaladForkWhat's TBR?
18:55.34FryGuystopped playing months ago :p
18:55.49ThraeThraeBot Rating of your stats, gear, and build.
18:55.49FryGuyand i bet that's with my pvp gear on since i have 7123 hp :p
18:55.54SaladFork!c us aerie peak SaladFork
18:55.56ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 40 mp5; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 593 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (847); 179 shadow dmg (772); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +21 all resists;[[ TBR: 1821 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/273ku8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32db27 ]]
18:56.04SaladForkHehe
18:56.07SaladForkThat's me in my business attire
18:56.21SaladForkUnbuffed, and switched out gear for a tux
18:56.32FryGuyyou only have 8 more than me!
18:56.33FryGuy:p
18:56.34Thrae!i 2442
18:56.35ThraeBotThrae: Name: Reinforced Targe; Rarity: White; +491 Armour; Requires L22; 80 Durability; Get: Unknown. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2442 ]]
18:56.42SaladForkFry - with half my gear off, =)
18:56.50FryGuyya that's my pvp gear
18:56.54Thrae!te us stormreaver 5 lolcrew
18:56.55ThraeBotThrae: Name: LOLcrew (5v5); Rampage (Horde); Rank: 129; Rating: 1926; Last Season's Rank: 149; This Season: 135/227 (60%) (Won/Played); This Week: 8/12 (67%); Points: ~927. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3bmuw4 ]]
18:56.56nevcairielThrae: whats that TBR thing on chars?
18:57.00SaladForkI have +13% hit when raiding (A shammy's Totem of Wrath makes up the rest)
18:57.04ThraeAll kinds of nice things to parse on the armory
18:57.14SaladForkWow, I have 600 more TBR than you when I'm in a tux, =D
18:57.24Thraenevcairiel: 15:03 < Thrae> ThraeBot Rating of your stats, gear, and build.
18:57.30nevcairielah.
18:57.32nevcairiellet see
18:57.39nevcairiel!c eu antonidas Nevcairiel
18:57.42ThraeBotnevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1095 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2g5z89 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bf8d8 ]]
18:57.54nevcairielwonder how that is actually rated
18:58.03SaladFork+1700 hela only gets 1095 TBR, o.O
18:58.06SaladForkheal*
18:58.15Thrae!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel us burning blade shamala
18:58.16ThraeBotThrae: Nevcairiel vs Shamala! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 10/0/51; Shamala wins by 304 TBRs!
18:58.37SaladFork!vs us burning blade shamala us aerie peak saladfork
18:58.38ThraeBotSaladFork: Shamala vs Saladfork! Two 70 mages square off!; Saladfork wins by 615 TBRs!
18:58.45SaladForklol
18:58.53SaladFork!c us aerie peak qz
18:58.55ThraeBotSaladFork: Qz, Level 31 Tauren Druid (0/17/5). 1511 HP; 1324 Mana; 77 mana regen; 2.4% melee crit; 10.08% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +5 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 324 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/38hpyg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yszg9u ]]
18:59.01FryGuySaladFork: I stopped playing before the last patch
18:59.05SaladForkFry - kk
18:59.36SaladForkThrae - make that into a WoW addon, =P
19:00.01FryGuybefore they nerfed serpentshrine and tk and opened up hyjal & black temple
19:00.09SaladForkHeh
19:00.12SaladForkDoesn't effect me
19:00.14SaladForkI'm barely into Kara
19:00.16SaladForkjust Attumen downed
19:00.24FryGuywell i didn't pvp much :p
19:00.33SaladForkMe either, surprisingly my frostie is a raider
19:00.34nevcairielThrae: somehow i think this TBR is kinda weird =P
19:00.37SaladForkI have 6.4k hp total, XD
19:00.57SaladForkNev - I agree
19:01.11SaladForkMy yucky +850 frostdmg is out-ranking your +1700 heal
19:01.17SaladForkYou have a lot for a druid, I have little for a mage
19:01.27FryGuyi respecced frost to pvp before i finally quit though :p
19:01.57nevcairielyeah just thinking, full epic t5 et al should beat blue gear ;)
19:01.57ThraeSaladFork: In a 1v1 fight, how the hell is a Resto Druid going to kill you? Make you run out of mana?
19:01.57nevcairielactually
19:01.57nevcairielyea
19:01.57nevcairieli killed mages
19:01.59FryGuyi mean, the guild broke up (i was fire specced to raid), then i specced frost to play around in BG before my account ran out :p
19:01.59SaladForkThrae - easy
19:02.02ThraeSaladFork: Even then, you could probably wand him to death with your uber DPS wand
19:02.03SaladForkResto druids kill people by not healing them.
19:02.31nevcairieli won duells against fire-arcane mages
19:02.36nevcairieljust survive the burst
19:02.38SaladForkThat's because fire mages should never PvP
19:02.41nevcairielthen outheal them and slowly dps
19:02.44ThraeTBR is based on a weighted logarithmic equation
19:03.14SaladFork!vs us aerie peak johnyquest us aerie peak saladfork
19:03.16ThraeBotSaladFork: Johnyquest vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/5/56 vs 10/0/51; Johnyquest wins by 7 TBRs!
19:03.22ThraeOoo, close
19:03.25SaladForkWell, I officially get owned by my resto shammy guild leader
19:03.35SaladFork=(
19:03.36ThraeHey, Resto Shammies are tough :D
19:03.41SaladForkNot really
19:03.46SaladForkSpells ignore armor, so the mail does nothing for them
19:03.55SaladForkAnd it's just a good counterspell placement before some burst damage and they drop
19:04.11ThraeYes, my weights ignore armour when fighting mages, warlocks, Balance Druids, Priests, etc.
19:04.36SaladForkOkay, let's try against my MT
19:04.40dreamsswith spellsteal and gaylance mages got a alot harder for shamans
19:04.42SaladFork(warriors are free HKs for mages)
19:04.43dreamssstill doable
19:04.50dreamssbs sal
19:04.57SaladFork!vs us aerie peak saladfork us aerie peak grarl
19:04.57ThraeI can't take the skill of the player into account :D
19:04.59ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Grarl! A L70 mage and a L70 warrior square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/6/55; Grarl wins by 351 TBRs!
19:05.02SaladForkWow
19:05.04SaladForkThat's off by so much, XD
19:05.11SaladForkI win against warriors 99.5% of the time
19:05.11nevcairielheh
19:05.13FryGuynot really off
19:05.23SaladForkesp. prot warriors
19:05.26nevcairiel!vs eu antonidas tatjanai eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:05.28ThraeBotnevcairiel: Tatjanai vs Nevcairiel! A L70 warrior and a L70 druid square off!; 8/10/43 vs 1/0/60; Tatjanai wins by 898 TBRs! ***OWNED***!
19:05.32SaladForkhahaha
19:05.38nevcairieli want to see that happen
19:05.53nevcairielimho that bot underrates resto druids :P
19:05.57FryGuyit's saying his gear is better than yours :p
19:05.58ThraeTatjanai is probably in his PvP gear, while nevcairiel isn't
19:05.59SaladForkAnd overrates prot warriors
19:06.11FryGuynot really who will win against each other in pvp
19:06.21dreamsswhats the format?
19:06.29dreamssplayername servername?
19:06.30nevcairielFryGuy: actually, its rating more on duel values
19:06.31ThraeSaladFork: Not really -- when fighting a Mage, it ignores defense, dodge, parry, armour, etc. for the Warrior
19:06.35Thrae!help vs
19:06.35ThraeBot!vs <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2> -- Set two characters to battle for ThraeBot Ratings
19:06.35zenBot! In help: NameError: global name 'cmdz' is not defined
19:06.46SaladForkThrae - so how does my prot warrior in full blues kil lme?
19:06.53nevcairielFryGuy: my epix t5 gear should bet thraes blue stuff, but still he wins :P
19:06.55SaladForkWhen I have never lost to him, or any other warrior short of full-glads
19:07.05dreamss!vs us stormscale dreamss eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:07.09ThraeBotdreamss: Dreamss vs Nevcairiel! A L70 shaman and a L70 druid square off!; 0/16/45 vs 1/0/60; Dreamss wins by 812 TBRs! ***OWNED***!
19:07.18dreamsspwned
19:07.23nevcairieli really think he underrates druids :P
19:07.30SaladFork!vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss
19:07.32ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Saladfork wins by 43 TBRs!
19:07.37dreamssdam
19:07.45SaladForkHehe
19:07.48dreamssrematch
19:07.49dreamss!
19:07.55dreamss!vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss
19:07.56ThraeBotdreamss: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Saladfork wins by 43 TBRs!
19:08.03dreamssoh cam on
19:08.05Thrae!c eu antonidas tatjanai
19:08.08ThraeBotThrae: Tatjanai, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/10/43). 15144 HP; 15530 Armour; 730 AP; 150.9 Melee DPS; 11.79% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 362 defense; 23.82% dodge; 27.07% block;[[ TBR: 2245!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x4nva ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2see39 ]]
19:08.08SaladForkThrae - does it cache Armory data?
19:08.09dreamssi dint say istant replay
19:08.25ThraeSaladFork: Only for items
19:08.38nevcairielprot warriors get really high ratings
19:08.38SaladForkSo let me log out in my new gear
19:08.39nevcairielamazing
19:08.48snurre!c eu dragonmaw capnaggro
19:08.49dreamss!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:08.51ThraeBotsnurre: Capnaggro, Level 60 Orc Warrior (10/41/0). 5219 HP; 6204 Armour; 1260 AP; 155.5 Melee DPS; 31.54% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 8.71% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 1884 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fz4fg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/392fsd ]]
19:08.51ThraeBotdreamss: dreamss vs saladfork! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! dreamss wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt.
19:08.54SaladForkYeah, prot warriors dominate
19:09.12dreamssplayer 1 allways wins?
19:09.19ThraeThat's a random event :D
19:09.23SaladForkwtf
19:09.25SaladForkoh
19:09.26SaladForklol
19:09.33nevcairiellol
19:09.45nevcairiel!vs eu antonidas kelina eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:09.47ThraeBotnevcairiel: Kelina vs Nevcairiel! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/0/61 vs 1/0/60; Kelina wins by 293 TBRs!
19:09.47SaladForkI guess I got a lag spike
19:09.51nevcairielwtf
19:09.52dreamssoh hey Thrae
19:09.58dreamsswhat are u using for ur script?
19:10.05SaladForkk, Just updated armory with my actual gear
19:10.09ThraeLua, of course
19:10.10SaladFork!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:10.12ThraeBotSaladFork: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 106 TBRs!
19:10.17dreamssyes
19:10.21SaladForkWow, I raised all my stats, and now I lose?
19:10.25sag_ich_nichtanyone know if the stockcooler of an opteron fits into a U1 case?
19:10.28SaladForkI went up 25 frostdmg, up 1% spellcrit, and lost 50hp
19:10.30dreamss!c us dreamss
19:10.34nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: no
19:10.36SaladForkI think it overvalues health compard to other desirable mage stats...
19:10.43nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: doesnt fit i mean ;)
19:10.45dreamss!c us stormscale dreamss
19:10.47ThraeBotdreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 8315 HP; 8907 Mana; 205 mana regen; 100 mp5; 5012 Armour; 150.7 Melee DPS; 11.15% melee crit; 25 spell crit; 116 +spell dmg; 1056 +heal; 6.16% dodge; 5% block; 55 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1859 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]]
19:11.11sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel damn you, AMD.
19:11.12ThraeSaladFork: Mages have the lowest health weight, 1
19:11.24SaladForkThrae - I just went down 50hp, and up 25 frost damage and 1% spellcrit
19:11.26SaladForkAnd I lost rating
19:11.28dreamssBAH why lua
19:11.31SaladFork!c us aerie peak saladfork
19:11.33SaladForkLet's see how much
19:11.34dreamssl2 tcl :P
19:11.34ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1673 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]]
19:11.39SaladForkI went down ~200 TBR
19:12.01SaladForkSorry, my bad
19:12.05SaladForkRatingBuster said I only went down 20hp
19:12.08dreamssi beat u on my pve gear and gorehowl LO
19:12.15dreamsshealing pve gear :P
19:12.45Fisker-Anyone know how i can remove the violation report each time it resets?
19:12.49SaladForkI LOST 20hp, 60 mana, and I GAINED 28 frost damage, .36% spellcrit, 2.06% spellhit
19:12.54SaladForkAnd I went DOWN 200 TBR
19:12.54SaladForkXD
19:12.57dreamssThrae i so wish it was in a language u could use elsewere :P
19:14.08sag_ich_nichtalso thanks nevcairiel
19:14.11Thraedreamss: What do you mean "elsewhere"?
19:14.19Thrae!mload armorystats
19:14.20ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:14.27evlhow do I floor a value in lua?
19:14.32Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:14.34ThraeBotThrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 147 TBRs!
19:14.40SaladForkYeah
19:14.42nevcairielevl: math.floor?
19:14.43dreamsslike so i dont have to code it on my own thraw :P
19:14.44SaladForkI somehow lost 200, >.<
19:14.55dreamssi win by skillfury
19:15.00dreamss! im the greatest
19:15.15nevcairiel!vs eu antonidas muhni eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:15.16evlnevcairiel: ty
19:15.17ThraeBotnevcairiel: Muhni vs Nevcairiel! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 44/12/5 vs 1/0/60; Muhni wins by 949 TBRs! ***OWNED***!
19:15.21nevcairielwonder if i can defeat anything =P
19:15.31Thrae!mload armorystats
19:15.31ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:15.32Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:15.34ThraeBotThrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 184 TBRs!
19:15.43ThraeHmm, this makes no sense
19:15.51Shirikyes, Thrae, it doesn't
19:15.55Shirikthis especially:
19:16.03Shirik!vs us Drenden Kimina us Eredar Shirik
19:16.05ThraeBotShirik: Kimina vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 23/38/0 vs 3/50/8; Shirik wins by 172 TBRs!
19:16.06dreamsswhats a tbr?
19:16.09Shiriker, ok
19:16.10Shiriknow I win
19:16.16SaladForkThrae - want me to compare the two I had before/after I lost 200 TBR?
19:16.18SaladForkOr do you have it?
19:16.19Shirikyesterday, Kimina creamed me
19:16.28dreamss!vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss
19:16.29Shirikand considering she's been 70 for about a week
19:16.30ThraeBotdreamss: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Dreamss wins by 184 TBRs!
19:16.34SaladForkBefore: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 40 mp5; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 593 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (847); 179 shadow dmg (772); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +21 all resists;[[ TBR: 1821 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/273ku8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32db27 ]]
19:16.38SaladForkAfter: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1673 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]]
19:16.55SaladForkNotice how hp and mana are the same
19:16.57SaladForkmana regen is the same
19:17.04SaladForkBut I went up spell crit
19:17.06SaladForkup spellhit
19:17.08SaladForkand up a lot of spelldmg
19:17.09Thrae!mload armorystats
19:17.09ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:17.11Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:17.12SaladForkAnd I lose 200 TDR
19:17.12ThraeBotThrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 890 TBRs!
19:17.20dreamssSOB
19:17.21SaladForkWell, that's slightly better, XD
19:17.23ThraeAha -- my weighting system is revering the values
19:17.30Thraes/revering/reversing/
19:17.36dreamsswhat a freaking 890 tbr?
19:17.50Silviu-!vs eu gorgonnash Littleone eu gorgonnash Ringo
19:17.51NightHawkTheSaneThraeBotRating?
19:17.52ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone vs Ringo! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 41/0/20 vs 42/0/19; Ringo wins by 1 TBRs!
19:18.05Silviu-TBRs = ? ;)
19:18.06dreamss!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:18.08ThraeBotdreamss: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 890 TBRs!
19:18.11dreamssBAH
19:18.14ShirikThrae Battle Ratings
19:18.16Shirikimo
19:18.17dreamsschampion is beat
19:18.21dreamsssob :(
19:19.04Thrae!mload armorystats
19:19.04ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:19.07Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:19.08ThraeBotThrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 1427 TBRs! ***OWNED***!
19:19.13dreamssYES
19:19.19dreamssim the champ once again
19:19.23SaladForkThrae, try again
19:19.23SaladForkXD
19:19.27nevcairiel!c eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:19.28Shirikthat's beyond owned
19:19.29nevcairiellets see
19:19.30ThraeBotnevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1043 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]]
19:19.32dreamss!c us stormscale dreamss
19:19.34ThraeBotdreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 8315 HP; 8907 Mana; 205 mana regen; 100 mp5; 5012 Armour; 150.7 Melee DPS; 11.15% melee crit; 25 spell crit; 116 +spell dmg; 1056 +heal; 6.16% dodge; 5% block; 55 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1820 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]]
19:19.36nevcairielmeh didnt increase :P
19:19.43SaladFork!c us aerie peak saladfork
19:19.45ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1674 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]]
19:19.48SaladForkI'm down to 1674 again
19:19.49SaladFork=(
19:19.53ThraeAh whoops
19:19.55Thrae!mload armorystats
19:19.55ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:19.56Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:19.57Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:19.59ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2apwna ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ms9 ]]
19:19.59ThraeBotThrae: dreamss vs saladfork! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! dreamss's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit!
19:20.08Shirikrofl
19:20.09Thrae!vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork
19:20.09dreamssBAH
19:20.10AKXThrae, what language is ThraeBot written in?
19:20.11ThraeBotThrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 262 TBRs!
19:20.16ThraeThere we go
19:20.26ThraeAKX: Again, Lua
19:20.29SaladFork!c us aerie peak saladfork
19:20.29AKXAh, ok.
19:20.31ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 685 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]]
19:20.35SaladForkUh
19:20.36ThraeAlright, now the values should be more sane
19:20.37SaladFork685 TBR?
19:20.38SaladForkThat doesn't seem right
19:20.40AKXI wasn't following the last time...
19:21.06ThraeSaladFork: The TBR algorithm has been fundementally changed
19:21.08dreamssdoes it count pvp trinket to weight tbr?
19:21.20Thraedreamss: How could it do that?
19:21.24nevcairiel!c eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:21.27ThraeBotnevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1468 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]]
19:21.27ThraeI don't know how either of the players will attack
19:21.31nevcairielthats better
19:21.33nevcairiel400 up
19:21.38SaladForkUm
19:21.41SaladForkHe has over double my TBR
19:21.44dreamssits not a stat trinket (new one is i guess)
19:21.58SaladForkThere's no way a +1700 druid has TWICE my TBR
19:21.59dreamssbut pvp trinket can change the fight around
19:22.25ThraeSaladFork: That's because his gear and stats are overall better then yours, but that doesn't mean he'll win vs you
19:22.36SaladForkBut twice the TBR? THat's insane
19:22.41nevcairielSaladFork: have a look at my gear, its not even remotely comparable to yours :P
19:22.41NightHawkTheSaneI think you guys are reading waaaaaay to much into an abstract stat comparison
19:22.55SaladForkYeah, I should do that
19:22.58SaladForkBefore I complain
19:22.59SaladFork=P
19:23.06Thrae!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel us aerie peak saladfork
19:23.11ThraeBotThrae: Nevcairiel vs Saladfork! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 145 TBRs!
19:23.12SaladForkI get owned
19:23.12*** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-12-245-239.brnt.adsl.virgin.net)
19:23.14SaladForkwoah
19:23.17SaladForkNev went down?
19:23.21dreamsshow u weight points anyways, using blizz point values?
19:23.35AKXI'm going so down.
19:23.38AKX!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu moonglade zerun
19:23.39ThraeBotAKX: Nevcairiel vs Zerun! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 24/37/0; Zerun wins by 110 TBRs!
19:23.44AKX... Wait, what? D:
19:23.48ThraeSaladFork: Yes, because stuff like his armour, dodge, etc. doesn't get taken into account
19:23.58SaladForkThrae - Ohhhh
19:24.00SaladForkIn a duel against me
19:24.00dreamss!c us stormscale dreamss
19:24.00SaladForkVery nice.
19:24.03ThraeBotdreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 9344 HP; 6324 Mana; 120 mana regen; 21 mp5; 4591 Armour; 990 AP; 190.6 Melee DPS; 22.21% melee crit; 63 melee hit; 86 +spell dmg/heal; 9.19% dodge; 5% block; 159 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +7 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 607 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]]
19:24.04sag_ich_nichtgod damn it, are there no good 1U AM2 coolers at all? D:
19:24.20nevcairieli just play mages oom
19:24.22nevcairielthats pretty easy
19:24.33dreamsslol i wentf rom TBR: 1820 to TBR: 607
19:24.34sbwhats TBR?
19:24.40Thraesb: Scroll up
19:24.41Silviu-!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:24.43sbhm :)
19:24.43ThraeBotSilviu-: Nevcairiel vs Littleone! A L70 druid and a L70 warlock square off!; 1/0/60 vs 41/0/20; Littleone wins by 292 TBRs!
19:24.50dreamsspvp enhas gear < pve resto gear
19:25.07ThraePoor Nevvie just can't win
19:25.14nevcairiellets see
19:25.20nevcairiela duel i just won last weke
19:25.23nevcairiel*week
19:25.37nevcairiel!vs eu antonidas spaiki eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:25.38ThraeBotnevcairiel: Spaiki vs Nevcairiel! A L70 warrior and a L70 druid square off!; 17/44/0 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 533 TBRs!
19:25.41nevcairielheh
19:25.44nevcairielsmart bot
19:26.47SaladForkLet's see how I do against my prot tank now
19:26.55SaladFork!vs us aerie peak saladfork us aerie peak grarl
19:26.56ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Grarl! A L70 mage and a L70 warrior square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/6/55; Saladfork wins by 412 TBRs! ***OWNED***!
19:27.00SaladForkMuch better.
19:27.08SaladForkI approve of your bot.
19:27.15NightHawkTheSaneyeah. but who doesn't win against prot warriors. >.>
19:27.22SaladForkrogues, I hear
19:27.31NightHawkTheSanewell, aside from rogues :P
19:28.25ThraeNote that if your gear really, really sucks, you can loose to like a 45
19:28.32nevcairiellol
19:28.33SaladForkReally?
19:28.43ThraeYes, because it calculates logarithmically
19:28.50SaladFork!vs us aerie peak Qz eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:28.50ThraeBotSaladFork: Qz vs nevcairiel! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Qz's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit!
19:28.54SaladFork!vs us aerie peak Qz eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:28.56ThraeBotSaladFork: Qz vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +39 lvls on Qz (31 vs 70); Two druids square off!; 0/17/5 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 1374 TBRs!
19:29.01*** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
19:29.01*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ
19:29.02nevcairiel!vs eu antonidas orlin eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:29.04SaladForkHow is that not ****OWNED*****
19:29.05ThraeBotnevcairiel: Orlin vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +4 lvls on Orlin (66 vs 70); A L66 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 16/41/0 vs 1/0/60; Orlin wins by 134 TBRs!
19:29.25ThraePoor, poor Nevvie
19:29.31nevcairielthats my own warlock
19:29.36nevcairiel:D
19:29.42*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
19:29.48nevcairielnah i cannot defeat warlocks anyway
19:29.52*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
19:30.07nevcairielnot a chance in a million
19:30.10CIA-1403deccard * r46368 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
19:30.10CIA-14MiniChat:
19:30.10CIA-14- added 'handleall' option to min-/maximize all chat frames
19:30.16*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
19:30.16Thrae!mload armorystats
19:30.16ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:30.24ThraeSaladFork: There was a typo in the code, thanks for pointing it out
19:30.33SaladForkThrae - no problem, =)
19:31.59ZealotOnAStick!vs eu antonidas orlin us blackhand tenebra
19:32.01ThraeBotZealotOnAStick: Orlin vs Tenebra! Tenebra has +4 lvls on Orlin (66 vs 70); Two warlocks square off!; 16/41/0 vs 44/0/17; Tenebra wins by 126 TBRs!
19:32.15nevcairielZealotOnAStick: what did you expect now ? :P
19:32.30Thrae!mload armorystats
19:32.31ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:32.35ZealotOnAStickwhat are "TBRs?"
19:32.42nevcairielThraeBot Ratings
19:32.46Silviu-ZealotOnAStick which is your wl ?
19:32.55ZealotOnAStickTenebra
19:33.01Silviu-!vs eu us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:33.02ThraeBotSilviu-: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck.
19:33.08nevcairiellol
19:33.12Silviu-!vs us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:33.12ThraeBotSilviu-: tenebra vs Littleone! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Littleone's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit!
19:33.17Thrae!vs us maelstrom thrae us eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:33.18ThraeBotThrae: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck.
19:33.22Silviu-lol ?; )
19:33.26Thrae!vs us maelstrom thrae eu antonidas nevcairiel
19:33.26dreamsshehe
19:33.28ThraeBotThrae: Thrae vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +11 lvls on Thrae (59 vs 70); Two druids square off!; 1/41/8 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 1147 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!***
19:33.32*** join/#wowace QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
19:33.35nevcairiellol
19:33.38nevcairiel}o/
19:33.39Antiarc!vs us cenarion circle adrine us cenarion circle wraithedge
19:33.39ThraeBotAntiarc: adrine vs wraithedge! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing wraithedge instantly.
19:33.45Antiarc....hahah
19:33.47Silviu-!vs us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:33.47ThraeBotSilviu-: tenebra vs Littleone! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! tenebra is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes tenebra 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit!
19:34.01*** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
19:34.12Silviu-hmm
19:34.15ZealotOnAStickHeh.  NOT a keyboard turner.
19:34.20Silviu-:)
19:34.33Silviu-!c us blackhand tenebra
19:34.36ThraeBotSilviu-: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 8910 HP; 8620 Mana; 114 mana regen; 162 spell crit; 198 spell hit; 1018 +spell dmg; 161 shadow dmg (1179); 4.68% dodge; 35 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 787 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt634r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35klc9 ]]
19:34.41Silviu-ud bah
19:34.45Silviu-:P
19:34.48SaladForkFull FSW?
19:34.59Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:34.59ThraeBotSorry Silviu-, you must wait 37 seconds before making another request.
19:35.13ZealotOnAStickNo.  Various instance drops.  No crafted.
19:35.18CIA-1403cwdg * r46369 10BugSack/BugSack-zhCN.lua: BugSack: update zhCN local .thanks biggate@CWDG
19:35.28Thrae!helpspam
19:35.28ThraeBotTriggers: !fc <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !c <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !co <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2>; !g <eu/us> <server>, <guild>; !te <eu/us> <server> <team size> <team name>; !vs <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2>; !ar <points>; !l <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !tc <eu/us> <server> <team size> <team name> [<vs <eu/u
19:35.28ThraeBots> <server2> <team size2> <team name2>]; !ap <rating>; !api <function name>; !tl; !t <url> [optional stuff after]; !i <item name or id>;. To get more information about a particular command, do !help <command>. Now /msg ThraeBot with your command and stop spamming the damn channel.
19:35.36ThianaTBRs?
19:35.40ZealotOnAStickOh, and Merci Glad spellblade and veteran's dreadweave bracers.
19:35.42SaladForkwhat's the difference between fc and c?
19:35.54ulic~tbr
19:35.58Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
19:36.01ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2apwna ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ms9 ]]
19:36.09ThraeSaladFork: fc is from the original FoxBot, it caches and shows less stats
19:36.17Silviu-how can i be the same as Zealot ? :/
19:36.21Silviu-I own him !
19:36.21ZealotOnAStickWaiting on the stuff I actually -want- to drop in Hyjal and BT . . . some of which I have to be second on, because our primary shadow priest has like a 90 DKP lead on the next closest.
19:36.21Silviu-;p
19:36.31Thrae!ap 232
19:36.31ThraeBotThrae: Rating given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings? Either way, you fail at life.
19:36.34SaladFork!g us aerie peak horde outrunners
19:36.42Thrae!ar 232
19:36.42ThraeBotThrae: Arena rating from 232 points is, 2v2: 1383, 3v3: 1274, 5v5: 1121
19:36.52ThraeSaladFork: You forgot the comma
19:36.57SaladForkhuh?
19:36.58SaladForkoh
19:37.01SaladFork!g us aerie peak, horde outrunners
19:37.02ThraeBotSaladFork: <Horde Outrunners> on Aerie Peak has 181 members. [[ http://tinyurl.com/2el68j ]]
19:37.03Shirik!c us Drenden Belholysezhi
19:37.04ThraeBotShirik: Belholysezhi, Level 2 Gnome Warrior: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick![[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2p8aqv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2b3fof ]]
19:37.07SaladForkWow, that's useful, XD
19:37.08Shirikrofl!
19:37.11ShirikHe's dead outside of kara
19:37.14Shirikthat gnome
19:37.26Thrae!l us maelstrom thrae
19:37.29ThraeBotThrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]]
19:37.37CIA-1403deccard * r46370 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
19:37.37CIA-14MiniChat:
19:37.37CIA-14- removed a stupid comment
19:37.54SaladFork!l us aerie peak saladfork
19:37.56Thraedeccard is being a little OCD there
19:37.57ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork's last login date is listed as August 12, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]]
19:38.09sag_ich_nichtThrae
19:38.11SaladFork!tl
19:38.12ThraeBothttp://tinyurl.com/2mcgf3 (SaladFork's link)
19:38.13sag_ich_nichtwhat causes the cheatmessage?
19:38.16SaladFork?
19:38.21Thraesag_ich_nicht: Random
19:38.22sag_ich_nicht!vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho
19:38.25ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/47/14; Ruknor wins by 1079 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!***
19:38.25sag_ich_nichti see.
19:38.33sag_ich_nichtlol
19:38.35sag_ich_nichtthat is wrong
19:38.41sag_ich_nichti am unable to defeat her in a duell
19:38.42Thiana~tbr
19:38.50Thiana!tbr
19:39.36sag_ich_nichtfail?
19:39.37sag_ich_nicht!br
19:39.39sag_ich_nichterm
19:39.40sag_ich_nicht!tbr
19:39.42Thraepurl, TBR stands for ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other.
19:39.42purlI think you lost me on that one, Thrae
19:39.42sag_ich_nicht~tbr
19:39.44Fisker-attack!
19:39.57Thraepurl, TBR is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other.
19:39.57purlokay, Thrae
19:40.32sag_ich_nichtdoesn't change the fact that she can beat me with just autoattack >.>
19:40.44SaladFork!i spellstrike hood
19:40.44ThraeBotSaladFork: Name: Spellstrike Hood; Rarity: Purple; BoE; Head; +16 Stamina; +12 Intellect; +145 Armour; 1 Blue; 1 Yellow; 1 Red; +4 Stamina socket bonus; Requires L70; 60 Durability; +24 CritSpellRating; +16 HitSpellRating; Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 46.; Spellstrike Infusion Set; Set Items: Spellstrike Hood Spellstrike Pants; Set Bonus for 2: Gi
19:40.44ThraeBotves a chance when your harmful spells land to increase the damage of your spells and effects by 92 for 10 sec.; Get: Created. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24266 ]]
19:40.47SaladForkJust had mine made, =D
19:41.05Thrae!co eu gorgonnash Littleone us blackhand tenebra
19:41.07ThraeBotThrae: Littleone vs Tenebra! Two 70 warlocks square off!; Littleone +2390 HP; Littleone +0.39% dodge; Tenebra +10 shadow resist; Littleone +141 +spelldmg; Littleone +7 resilience; Tenebra +51 shadow dmg; Littleone +729 Armour; Tenebra +60 Mana; Littleone +47 mana regen; Tenebra +46 spell hit; Littleone +1 spell crit; Littleone +33 All Resists; Littleone has 3% more stats then Tenebra.
19:41.22Cheads!l eu Aszune Emmeke
19:41.24ThraeThat gives you a better picture of why one wins over the other
19:41.25ThraeBotCheads: Emmeke's last login date is listed as 12 August 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23m6hk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vvtmj ]]
19:41.30sag_ich_nichtmhm
19:41.40sag_ich_nicht!co eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho
19:41.42ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; Ruknor +30 melee hit; Ruknor +5.76% block; Ruknor +113.4 Melee DPS; Sodexho +13.05% dodge; Sodexho +58 +healing; Sodexho +106 defense; Sodexho +2997 HP; Sodexho +2087 Mana; Sodexho +18 mana regen; Ruknor +756 AP; Ruknor +10.74% melee crit; Sodexho +76 resilience; Ruknor +1237 Armour; Ruknor +7 mp5; Sodexho has 4% more sta
19:41.42ThraeBotts then Ruknor.
19:41.52sag_ich_nicht...~_~
19:42.04ThraeThe % more stats has nothing to do with TBRs
19:42.07yacoobYou know you haven't played WoW for a long time when: you do not understand latest Dark Legacy comic :(
19:42.38sag_ich_nichtshe still wins with only autoattack thus ThraeBot is rong!
19:43.29CIA-1403curney * r46371 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (21 files): (log message trimmed)
19:43.29CIA-14Prat/Prat_Modules:
19:43.29CIA-14$ this is primarily a facelift update so don't have a heart attack by its size.
19:43.29CIA-14$ should be no change in data whatsoever.
19:43.29CIA-14# renamed "ChatButtons" to "Buttons".
19:43.30CIA-14# renamed "ChatFrames" to "Frames".
19:43.32CIA-14# renamed "ChatLink" to "ChannelLinks".
19:43.54ThraeThe algorithm -- t1_score = t1_score + t1.level * math.log(math.max(1,t1[k] or 0)) / v, where v == the weight for that stat vs the class you're fighting against (unless you're doing !c), and t1[k] is the stat
19:44.23sag_ich_nichtyou should change it so the stat weight depends on the talent tree focus
19:44.33sag_ich_nichtelse it will never work for hybrids
19:45.06Thraesag_ich_nicht: Already did, somewhat. It looks for high Spell Damage, Healing, etc. and seriously decreases the focus on Melee.
19:45.25Thraesag_ich_nicht: IE, it uses a different weight table in those cases
19:45.32sag_ich_nichtheh
19:46.16sag_ich_nichtshe has 30k armor or something in bear and enough HP & AP to outlast me with just autoattack. :(
19:48.07Thrae!mload armorystats
19:48.08ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
19:48.15Thrae!vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho
19:48.15ThraeBotThrae: ruknor vs sodexho! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! ruknor wins by 8658278 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt.
19:48.21Thrae!vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho
19:48.23ThraeBotThrae: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/47/14; Ruknor wins by 1286 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!***
19:49.20SaladForkThrae
19:49.24SaladForkIf it sees my spec as 10/0/51
19:49.28SaladForkWill it correctly use my frost +spelldmg?
19:49.37ThraeSaladFork: Yes
19:49.40SaladForkYay
19:49.45ThraeSaladFork: It uses it either way
19:49.57durcyn!c us Turalyon Durcyn
19:50.00ThraeBotdurcyn: Durcyn, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/1/18). 8470 HP; 7645 Mana; 107 mana regen; 121 spell crit; 187 spell hit; 760 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (939); 334 shadow dmg (1094); 4.47% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 776 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29u8sp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v4hwg ]]
19:50.16SaladForkOkay, who wants to fight? =D
19:50.45Wixio/
19:50.49SaladForkTiny warlock, I pick you!
19:50.57CryectThrae you writing out an algorithm makes me think Thraebot should give us algorithms when we are feeling really lazy :-p
19:51.00SaladFork!vs us aerie peak SaladFork us turalyon Durcyn
19:51.01ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Durcyn! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 42/1/18; Durcyn wins by 104 TBRs!
19:51.07SaladForkSilly gnome!
19:51.10durcynmage always beat warlocks, chief
19:51.16durcyner backwards
19:51.17durcynno sleep
19:51.21SaladForkI was about to say...
19:51.22SaladForklol
19:51.24durcyni give up
19:51.35SaladForkBTW
19:51.39SaladForkWhy's your spell hit so high?
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19:51.56Killmore!vs us Ysera Zaltor us Ysera Setia
19:51.58ThraeBotKillmore: Zaltor vs Setia! A L70 warlock and a L70 mage square off!; 0/21/40 vs 10/48/3; Zaltor wins by 111 TBRs!
19:52.14durcynbecause of pve, ofc
19:52.28SaladForkYeah, do you play with no shammies or anything?
19:52.39Ominouscncfanatics: hey
19:52.40durcyni usually get tossed in the tank group
19:52.42durcynsans shaman
19:53.44SaladForkyuck
19:53.48SaladForkMy guild spoils me
19:53.57SaladForkI always have a shadow priest and a elemental shammy
19:54.05durcynyou're a mage.  if you don't get a shaman and a shadow priest, then your tears drown the entire raid.
19:54.17durcynconditioned from level one to whine and complain, and it works
19:54.36SaladForkHaha, no I don't, =P
19:54.39SaladFork<- Frost Mage
19:54.45durcynevery mage on the planet does it, don't lie
19:54.54CIA-1403cryect * r46372 10Relog/ (Relog.lua WindowOrder.lua tags.lua):
19:54.54CIA-14Relog - Removes a reference to Recount
19:54.54CIA-14- adds options to /relog
19:54.55SaladForkI have about 5% less DPS than a fire mage, but I don't pull threat, and my mana efficiency is great
19:55.01SaladForkDurcyn - look at my trinket
19:55.03SaladForkMark of Defiance
19:55.14SaladForkAnd i have enough Of Spirit gear so that Evoc gives me a full second mana pull
19:55.16durcyn"gosh, you mean i might have to use a mana potion?  no, no, give me two shadow priests"
19:55.28SaladForkBetween evoc, mana gems, and mana potions, I can go for like 15 minutes of constant DPS
19:55.28SaladFork=)
19:55.46SaladForkDur - I haven't used a mana potion for ages
19:55.53SaladForkIf there's one thing my guild has, it's dps, lol
19:56.00CIA-1403curney * r46373 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (Font.lua FontSize.lua Justify.lua Paragraph.lua):
19:56.00CIA-14Prat:
19:56.00CIA-14$ part two of previous commit
19:56.00CIA-14# renamed FontSize.lua to Font.lua
19:56.00CIA-14# renamed Justify.lua to Paragraph.lua
19:56.50durcynhow expensive was the lunch, tem?
19:57.03TemI didn't see the bill
19:57.12NightHawkTheSanehow expensive did it taste?
19:57.15Tembut it's one of the nicest places in town
19:58.15ThraeAlright, what's a Feral Druid? Nev?
19:58.25Cryectwhat do you mean whats a feral druid?
19:58.26dreamsshehe "more than i make in a day im sure " :P
19:58.36ThraeWho plays a 70 Feral Druid :D
19:58.40CryectI do
19:58.57SaladForkI have a 31 feral druid, =)
19:58.59SaladForkThat's pretty close
19:59.00ThraeCryect: Are you in your Feral gear?
19:59.09Cryectyeah
19:59.22ThraeCryect: Gimmie your server & character name
19:59.28CryectStormreaver Cryect
19:59.39nevcairiel!c eu antonidas nayfal
19:59.40nevcairielthere
19:59.41ThraeBotnevcairiel: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9994 HP; 5750 Mana; 114 mana regen; 17 mp5; 5139 Armour; 1188 AP; 167.3 Melee DPS; 24.68% melee crit; 83 melee hit; 39.27% dodge; 8 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 371 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvayx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34cs8f ]]
19:59.41nevcairiel:P
19:59.46SaladForkThrae - trying to make some algorithsm for feral druids?
19:59.57ThraeSaladFork: Yeah, since melee DPS is useless to them
20:00.05sag_ich_nichtThrae try eu gul'dan sharandris (you already have eu gul'dan sodexho i think :P)
20:00.14SaladForkThrae - make sure you account for the stamina/agility buffs shapeshifts give you
20:00.20nevcairielwell he didnt logout in cat form
20:00.22SaladForkie: cat gets bonus AP from agility
20:00.24nevcairielso it will always be inaccurate
20:00.38sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel you can just convert calculate that ~_~
20:00.43Cryectwell he should just look at the stats
20:00.55sag_ich_nichtthat change dramatically with a shift.
20:00.57sag_ich_nicht:P
20:01.10CryectAgi is worth approximately 2.4 AP and Str is orth 2.4 AP
20:01.20*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
20:01.23Cryectoh wait
20:01.24cncfanatics~seen Ominous
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20:01.27sag_ich_nicht!c eu gul'dan sodexho
20:01.29ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Sodexho, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 10784 HP; 6830 Mana; 111 mana regen; 6164 Armour; 578 AP; 117.8 Melee DPS; 12.08% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 58 +heal; 152 defense; 23.82% dodge; 79 resilience;[[ TBR: 352 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2sgmu4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ebrrl ]]
20:01.31sag_ich_nicht!c eu gul'dan sharandris
20:01.34ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Sharandris, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 10784 HP; 6830 Mana; 111 mana regen; 6503 Armour; 578 AP; 117.8 Melee DPS; 12.4% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 58 +heal; 152 defense; 23.82% dodge; 79 resilience;[[ TBR: 352 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2wyde8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2htzbp ]]
20:01.37Cryectcan't say that for str since you don't look at the items except the total
20:01.50Cryectso its 2AP per Str then
20:02.21ThraeCryect: It doesn't look at STR, just AP
20:02.21Ominouscncfanatics: hey
20:02.28Ominouscncfanatics: im at home now
20:02.43CryectThrae: then you are going to get wildly different values based on what form the druid is in
20:02.58CryectI guess you can calculate of course
20:03.13Cryectso you just look at AP and Crit then?
20:03.16ThraeCryect: True, it would be hard to correct for that
20:03.37ThraeCryect: Oh wait, yes I can correct for that
20:03.47CryectHeh I have 1136 AP in caster form and 2722 AP in cat form for example at the moment
20:04.35CryectStr goes up by 20% when in catform + bonus AP from talents and form
20:04.46Cryectoh plus agi is worth 1AP in catform :-p
20:04.59SaladForkOr calculate for dire bear
20:05.05xyuwhy does grid need a layout:(  why can't it just form to wahtever group size you're in
20:05.37CIA-1403curney * r46374 10Prat/Prat_Modules/includes.xml: Prat: it helps to tell the addon to use the newly renamed files. oops! okay this should be the 3rd and final part of the previous commit.
20:05.51SaladForkxyu - That bothers me too!
20:07.03xyuone of life's great mysteries i gues
20:07.24Cryectwhy does that bother you?
20:07.32CryectI mean i have it set to show only 25 people in raids
20:07.45Cryecteven though there is more than 25 people since I don't care about people sitting
20:08.15xyuand then i have to go allll the way to grid,  hit the right click button, go to layout, raid layout, 10 man.  for when i bg.  
20:08.18xyuthat's a lot of work ~_^
20:08.40JoshBorkemake a macro to do it for you
20:09.00SaladForkJosh - I did, >.<
20:10.05JoshBorkethen what are you bitching about?
20:10.49sag_ich_nichtthat it's dumb and not inovative. it should have an autoswitching feature.
20:11.17sag_ich_nichtand that wouldn't be inovative either
20:11.19sag_ich_nichtjust common sense.
20:11.32Cryectits not common sense either
20:11.53Cryectif you always want to see everyone why not leave it in 40 man mode?
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20:13.00xyuit has a huge gray box
20:13.02xyuof empty space
20:13.24xyui'm not knocking it
20:13.27xyuit's a great addon
20:13.32xyuit's just somethign i wish it did
20:14.32Thrae!mload armorystats
20:14.32ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
20:14.32Ominouscncfanatics: you around?
20:14.46dreamss!c us stormscale dreamss
20:14.58Thrae!c eu antonidas nayfal
20:15.03ThraeOopos
20:15.29xyuhmm i have a broken addon somewhere
20:15.39xyuaverage increasing rate 200kb/sec
20:15.47xyuup to 120mb
20:15.48Silviu-!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Silviu
20:16.22nevcairielnow its dead
20:17.00Silviu-:(
20:17.03Thrae!mload armorystats
20:17.03ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
20:17.06Thrae!c eu antonidas nayfal
20:17.08ThraeBotThrae: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9994 HP; 5750 Mana; 114 mana regen; 17 mp5; 5139 Armour; 1188 AP; 167.3 Melee DPS; 24.68% melee crit; 83 melee hit; 39.27% dodge; 8 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 514 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvayx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34cs8f ]]
20:17.18ThraeThere we go -- his TBR doubled
20:17.18Silviu-!vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Silviu
20:17.20ThraeBotSilviu-: Nevcairiel vs Silviu! Two 70 druids square off!; 1/0/60 vs 1/49/11; Silviu wins by 135 TBRs!
20:17.27Silviu-ha !
20:17.31Silviu-My twink ownz u !
20:17.31Silviu-;p
20:17.42SaladForkThere's no such thing as a 70 twink
20:17.45SaladForkThat's oxymoronic
20:18.02*** join/#wowace Mecdemort (n=chatzill@c-24-13-244-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
20:18.07SaladForkThough for curiosity
20:18.17SaladFork!vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash silviu
20:18.19ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Silviu! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 10/0/51 vs 1/49/11; Saladfork wins by 487 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
20:18.23SaladForkheh
20:18.25Silviu-well my twink is a mt kara raid :)
20:18.36Silviu-:(
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20:19.02Silviu-!vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash littleone
20:19.04ThraeBotSilviu-: Saladfork vs Littleone! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 41/0/20; Littleone wins by 147 TBRs!
20:19.07Silviu-:P
20:19.12Thrae!mload armorystats
20:19.12ThraeBotLoaded [armorystats]
20:19.18SaladForkWarlocks always win, =(
20:19.25SaladFork!c eu gorgonnash littleone
20:19.27ThraeBotSaladFork: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27ucsn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2t4lwe ]]
20:19.32Thrae!vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash silviu
20:19.34SaladForkEspecially well-geared warlocks
20:19.34ThraeBotThrae: Saladfork vs Silviu! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 10/0/51 vs 1/49/11; Saladfork wins by 487 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
20:19.43*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com)
20:19.56ThraeOh wait, Silviu is Feral
20:20.03SaladFork=P
20:20.03Cryectyep
20:20.31Silviu-Thrae yes
20:20.56SaladForkhey Cryect
20:21.00SaladForkGot a few more suggestiosn for yeh, =D
20:22.14ThraeHow does a Resto Druid attack anyway? Spells or Forms?
20:22.25NightHawkTheSaneby running away. ;)
20:22.29Silviu-^^
20:22.31durcyncyclone, hearthstone
20:22.32ThraeHeh
20:22.32SaladForkThrae - melee
20:22.40SaladForkThey slap you
20:22.57ThraeSaladFork: In caster form?!
20:23.09Elkano!c eu mannoroth isdirial
20:23.12ThraeBotElkano: Isdirial, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9104 HP; 4475 Mana; 111 mana regen; 17 mp5; 4728 Armour; 109.1 Melee DPS; 9.51% melee crit; 14 melee hit; 145 defense; 19.85% dodge;[[ TBR: 459 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys48m7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34zqtm ]]
20:23.12SaladForkThrae - I would guess they would cast spells if they had to kill
20:23.14NightHawkTheSanebear form ->bash -> travel form ->flee!
20:23.18nevcairielThrae: i wrath them generally
20:23.21SaladForkBeing resto, they'd want to stay at range, since they're only wearing leather
20:23.30ElkanoThrae, you still only show def rating and not def :(
20:24.12Silviu-Elkano it`s ok that i added embeds.xml to Ebbs ?
20:25.38Elkanowell, I was a bit pissed :/ but in the end it's something I wanted do do my self at some point anyways, so nevermind :)
20:26.30Silviu-Elkano oh, sorry then :(
20:26.36Silviu-U can revert if
20:26.50Elkanowell, as I said, it's fine :)
20:26.53ThraeOK, a Resto Druid's TBRs should be a little higher now
20:26.53Silviu-Oky
20:27.16Silviu-I also added that line u commented in toc and commented it in embeds
20:27.22Silviu-That acelibrary
20:27.25ElkanoThrae, for feral does it include possible shifts to bear/cat?
20:27.45Elkano:)
20:28.37ThraeElkano: Yes, it tries to detect if you're in Cat or Bear when you log off
20:29.30ThraeElkano: IE, your score should be about the same in caster or in forms
20:30.05Elkanook, so my equip still sucks :( ;)
20:30.17nevcairiellol
20:30.34ThraeElkano: How long ago did you check? I just made a special weight for ferals
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20:32.21NightHawkTheSane!c us Laughing Skull Keribdis
20:32.24ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: Keribdis, Level 70 Troll Shaman (11/0/50). 6889 HP; 7913 Mana; 134 mana regen; 19 mp5; 6398 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 177 spell crit; 31 spell hit; 585 +spell dmg/heal; 4.32% dodge; 5% block; 24 resilience;[[ TBR: 528 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29k3h7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34tqm6 ]]
20:32.46NightHawkTheSaneheh, shitty ele gear. >.>
20:33.45KeiasI had a troll shaman once
20:33.48KeiasI'm sorry
20:33.53Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Silviu
20:33.56ThraeBotSilviu-: Silviu, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/49/11). 8554 HP; 4655 Mana; 111 mana regen; 1182 AP; 166.8 Melee DPS; 19.28% melee crit; 130 melee hit; 20 +heal; 24.7% dodge; 19 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 371 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29vdfw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v5mjn ]]
20:34.06NightHawkTheSanemeh, i like her. :P
20:34.21Silviu-1182 AP ?
20:34.31Silviu-i have 2800 or so
20:35.10nevcairielno cat form
20:35.25CIA-1403funkydude * r46375 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add Hyjal Summit Bosses/Loot
20:35.30AntiarcIf there are any Rails devs in here...
20:35.36Antiarc...I highly recommend NetBeans Ruby IDE
20:35.45Funkeh`Silviu-
20:35.50AntiarcI just started using it, and I'm really hooked.
20:35.52NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: oh?
20:36.00NightHawkTheSanecross platform?
20:36.02AntiarcYeah, java
20:36.05Silviu-<3 Funkeh` :)
20:36.08NightHawkTheSanebleh,java. ><
20:36.11AntiarcI know
20:36.14AntiarcIt's java-sluggish
20:36.18AntiarcBut the featureset is killer.
20:36.32AntiarcIntegrated realtime syntax check/intellisense, deprication/ambiguity warnings
20:36.33NightHawkTheSanei'll check itout
20:36.40AntiarcIntegrated IRB shell, Subversion support
20:36.47Antiarcetc etc.
20:37.32NightHawkTheSaneI've been using TextMate, which is nice, but kinda meh
20:37.51GnarfozAntiarc: it looks like Threat-1.0's Revision keyword is borked somehow - I've got rev 46something, but the file says it's 45747
20:38.22snurrewah, pidgin ftl
20:39.13AntiarcGnarfoz: You have another file in the lib with a higher revision
20:39.36Gnarfoz... meaning?
20:39.37Gnarfoz:D
20:39.38Silviu-Antiarc btw look at one screen http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081207225818gm6.jpg
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20:40.01AntiarcGnarfoz: Threat's revision is the highest revision in the lib. Each file can contain its own revision.
20:40.09Gnarfozah
20:40.11Gnarfozrighty
20:40.31Gnarfozit's just confusing, because the version check mechanism reports an older rev that it actually is
20:40.44AntiarcIt shouldn't, no.
20:41.16CIA-1403antiarc * r46376 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: Leotheras -> Supremus
20:41.21Gnarfozmy Omen window says 45747 while I actually have the latest one
20:41.27Gnarfozbefore the one you just commited, of course :p
20:41.36Silviu-Antiarc thx :)
20:41.39AntiarcOmen r 45xxx or Threat r45xxx?
20:42.00GnarfozAntiarc: threat
20:42.06Antiarchm
20:42.07Gnarfozomen 45044, threat 45747
20:42.20Silviu-That is the latest
20:42.24Silviu-That it shows at me too
20:44.15Arrowmasteroh wait funkeh did a commit after my 45747 commit so its not my fault
20:44.30Gnarfozyes, blame him!
20:44.40Funkeh`what?
20:48.54*** join/#wowace FrostByghte (n=FrostByg@70-250-240-34.ded.swbell.net)
20:51.13Silviu-Bah Supremus is strange :)
20:51.55ckknightAntiarc: I need some money
20:52.43ckknightgimmeh
20:52.50nevcairieldont we all?
20:52.51Silviu-I need some money too
20:53.05Chompersckknight: whore yourself out
20:53.10Silviu-Around 500 euro :P so i buy my new comp ^^
20:53.18ckknightI only have 8-slot bags
20:53.21ckknightI need to upgrade
20:53.27sbcomputer for 500 eur?
20:53.28SaladForkCk - get a tailor
20:53.32Silviu-800
20:53.32SaladForkNetherweave bags fall otu of our asses
20:53.33Silviu-http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/20930/
20:53.35Silviu-:)
20:53.40Silviu-But 300 i have atm :P
20:53.44sbhmm
20:53.47ckknightyea, I need money for the mats
20:53.49sb2nd LCD for me next week :o
20:53.53SaladForkck - get a tailor friend
20:53.57Silviu-sb giv money ! :)
20:53.58Chompersckk: what level are you now?
20:54.02ckknight46!
20:54.12Chompersonly character?
20:54.15SaladForkI farmed for 2 hours this morning, and I have enough netherweave cloth for 6 bags
20:54.34nevcairielheh i could throw like 5 16 slot bags at you
20:54.44art3misSilviu-: whast a ron?
20:54.50ckknightChompers: pretty much
20:55.06Chompersthat's a shame ckk
20:55.10ckknightwhy?
20:55.13art3misor rather what is it in dollars ;P
20:55.30Chompersi imagine you'd make so many addons if you know what the end game ui was like
20:56.04Chompersor find ideas for new addons while you're raiding
20:56.43ckknightfirst things first: Gotta finish AceConfig-3.0
20:56.47ckknightafter that, we'll see
20:56.48Silviu-art3mis i live in romania our money :)
20:56.53ckknightI was thinking about a guild calendar thing
20:57.09Silviu-art3mis let me look
20:57.47Chomperslevel 46 is pretty crappy though
20:57.48Silviu-1050 dollars
20:57.58JoshBorkeckknight: you should check with Kaelten, he was working on a mod called Combine which would be a guild calendar
20:57.59Chompersespically for a paladin, every level is such a grind
20:59.00AntiarcProt paladin + undead = AOE grinding happytime
20:59.09ckknightJoshBorke: yea, I know, it never went anywhere
20:59.13ckknightAntiarc: I need monies!
20:59.19Antiarck
20:59.25Antiarcdailies = awesome
20:59.35Diaouhh
20:59.35Diaowtf
20:59.38Diaoafter latest prat update
20:59.42Diaoall my chat settings are fucked up :(
20:59.44Chompershe's 46
20:59.49AntiarcI know
20:59.52Chompersit's not like he's going to do dailies :P
20:59.53AntiarcI mean my dailies are awesome
20:59.58Chompershahah :P
20:59.58AntiarcI trip over my feet and make 30g
21:00.07durcyn"everyone's dailies but ck's are awesome"
21:00.08durcynso mean
21:00.15Chompersnetherwing ledge is basically made of money
21:00.24Chompersyou just scoop some of it up and use it
21:00.24SaladForkOh yeah
21:00.34SaladFork2 hours worth of dailies is 200-250g easy
21:00.51SaladForkAnd back when I still got rep, it was nice
21:00.51SaladFork=P
21:00.51AntiarcWell, you can only do 10 dailies per day
21:00.56SaladForkYeah
21:00.59AntiarcAnd they're usually about 12g per
21:01.00AntiarcSo 120g
21:01.01Antiarc:P
21:01.03SaladForkNo
21:01.04ramozSaladFork: 10 dailies, 11.99g each
21:01.05SaladForkone quest gives you 18g
21:01.12Chomperswish they were all 18g like that cart one
21:01.13NightHawkTheSaneso 130g. :P
21:01.15Antiarcokay, so 126g
21:01.15SaladForkAnd you guys aren't adding in money from grey drops you get while during it
21:01.23ramozwell
21:01.26SaladForkI get 40-50g EASY while doing the netherwing mine quests and the slow death quest
21:01.35AntiarcWell, I cna probably rake up about 400g worth of herbs in 2 hours.
21:01.36SaladForkAnd not to mention the money you get from DEing greens while you do it
21:01.38ramozyour not making 70-120 on greus
21:01.39Diaooh no woner
21:01.42Diaoa bunch of stuff renamed
21:01.48art3misSilviu-: hehe i bought a machine just like that about 2 weeks ago for 500usd ;P
21:01.59SaladForkAntiarc - I'm a tailor/enchanter, both money sinks, no extra money, =(
21:02.00Silviu-art3mis bah wtf ?
21:02.00AntiarcAugh, my poor, poor RAM
21:02.04Silviu-art3mis new ?
21:02.18AntiarcSaladFork: I was an enchanter/engineer up till a couple of weeks ago
21:02.24Silviu-art3mis this is the cheapest i could get
21:02.27AntiarcWhen I realized that engineering was never getting any love
21:02.31art3misSilviu-: the laptop that popped up first that is
21:02.34AntiarcSo I'm all "k, herbs" and generally drown in money now
21:02.38SaladForkI'd _happily_ drop tailoring if I didn't need it for the epic set
21:02.45SaladForkAnd I've shelled WAAAY too much into enchanting to drop that
21:02.47SaladForkSo I'm stuck
21:04.35Keiaspsh, you silly money making people
21:04.36SaladForkI need to get an alt up to 70, throw him an epic flyer and herbalism, and let him make my money
21:04.55KeiasI'm a prot warrior with engineer and blacksmithing, you dunno trouble!
21:05.05SaladForkWow, pain.
21:05.14SaladForkThough I'd rather have Blacksmithing than Enchanting
21:05.18SaladForkAt least you can use the AH
21:05.23Keiaslol yeah
21:05.31KeiasAt least I can use Dailies for respecs
21:05.40KeiasTakes me forever to kill things though :(
21:05.53SaladForkYeah, the only tanks that can grind well are Feral druids
21:06.02SaladForkCat spec and Bear spec are almost identical
21:06.09SaladForkAnd overlap so much it's more gear dependant than spec dependant
21:06.15SaladForkGrinding set ftw
21:07.26AntiarcProt paladins are grinding machines
21:07.27AntiarcSrsly
21:07.29AntiarcThey just never die
21:07.53AntiarcI've seen one of our paladin tanks do some seriously obscene stuff
21:07.57*** part/#wowace sedai| (n=anything@c-67-176-97-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
21:08.01art3misheh me too
21:08.26art3mis14 nether guys near mana forge ultris
21:08.35art3miscame out with more hp and mana than he went in with
21:08.38art3missolo
21:08.54art3misjust sooo wrong
21:08.59Antiarcyes.
21:10.10ArrowmasterAntiarc: i just found a major Threat-1.0 problem
21:10.17AntiarcArrowmaster: Oh?
21:10.28Arrowmasterfucked up svn:keywords
21:10.36Antiarcwhat and where?
21:11.05Arrowmasternpc modules dont have Revision
21:11.23Arrowmastersome have Date and Rev, but not Revision
21:11.39ckknightRev acts as revision
21:11.50Arrowmasterok
21:12.24*** join/#wowace Chaotic_D (n=nothanks@ottawa-hs-209-217-75-28.d-ip.magma.ca)
21:12.53Antiarchttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070810/bush-war-adviser/
21:12.57Antiarck, yeah, moving to canada
21:13.03Antiarcwtb /countryinvite
21:13.12CIA-1403curney * r46377 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/History.lua: Prat: fixed issue reported on forum related to a typo introduced with my recent commit.
21:13.16NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: yeah, i saw that.><
21:13.22Chaotic_DHello. I'm just stopping by while I try to make sense of wowace. hard to figure out where to start.
21:13.28NightHawkTheSanefortunately, canada is only a  short drive away!
21:13.41Chaotic_DI'm in Canada.
21:15.15*** join/#wowace Higdur_ (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com)
21:15.22AntiarcChaotic_D: Well, there's your problem, obviously
21:15.34AntiarcYou probably want "Wowace, eh"
21:15.52NightHawkTheSanelol
21:15.54CIA-1403arrowmaster * r46378 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: svn:keywords fix
21:15.57AntiarcAceLibraryEh:("Threat-1.0"):Aboot()
21:16.06Chaotic_Dthere's already an "eh" in "Ace.
21:16.15AntiarcBut not at the end! :)
21:17.13Diaook
21:17.15DiaoAntiarc i just tested
21:17.22Diaodisabling everything except ace2 and sanity/sanityinventory
21:17.31Diaoand in the sanity window it still doesn't show how many of an item i have :(
21:17.47SaladForkObviously it's quite in-sane
21:17.47SaladFork=D
21:18.11Antiarchrm. Okay
21:18.16AntiarcI'll see what I can do ti fix it up
21:19.07Chaotic_DI have to admit, it's really confusing trying to make sense of this stuff.
21:19.12AntiarcWhere are you stuck?
21:19.26Grum_mmm multiple people are reporting getting 'No player named 'xxxx' is currently playing.' after being in a group with someone
21:19.34Grum_does anyone know anything about that?
21:19.41SaladForkGrum - I get a few whenever I log on
21:19.47Grum_or does anyone know a way you can track which addons could possibly do that?
21:19.57Grum_because something is doing a /who
21:20.11AntiarcSounds like a whisper to me.
21:20.14AntiarcNot a who
21:20.29Chaotic_Dwho, me? I can't figure out what my options are. heck, even downloads seem either spread out, or in a huge incomprehensible pile.
21:20.33SaladForkYeah, ANti's right
21:20.37SaladForkA who would say "0 players found"
21:20.42SaladForkSome script is whispering people, o.O
21:20.49AntiarcChaotic_D: Are you wanting to use the addons, or develop them?
21:20.49SaladForkI get that whne I logon, Grum says people get it after leaving a group
21:20.50SaladForkzomg
21:21.12Chaotic_Ddo I look at Ace or Ace2? I've done a bit of C++ before.
21:21.32Chaotic_DI'm looking to make one. I think.
21:21.48AntiarcOkay :)
21:21.48SaladForkChaotic_D - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
21:21.48Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
21:21.53SaladForkBeat you! XD
21:21.58AntiarcDamn you, SaladFork.
21:22.02JoshBorkeyou THINK you're looking to make one?
21:22.10SaryaiIs it just me... Or are Parrot's left/right directions backwards?
21:22.14Chaotic_Dwell, depends wether I can or not. ;>
21:22.15SaladForkJosh - he's exploring the territory, =P
21:22.23AntiarcI'll get you next time, SaladFork! *fistshake*
21:22.42Chaotic_DI remember I once wanted to make a UT2006 mod, but that was way too complicated for me to figure out.
21:23.06AntiarcWoW mods are a lot less complex than UT mods, in general
21:23.13SaryaiAye.
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21:23.53Grum_can i see which addon is doing that?
21:23.56Grum_trying to send a message?
21:23.58SaladForkAnd WowAce makes a _lot_ of things easier
21:24.03SaladForkGrum - if you find out, let me know, =
21:24.04SaladFork=\
21:24.17Antiarcgrep your addons directory for WHISPER
21:24.30Chaotic_DI'm thinking of an addon that tells you where to go next for something like powerlevelling (obviously I wouldn't release info from any one else's published guides, but maybe it could be scriptable)
21:24.35SaladForkGrum - find all addons that user WHISPER, and then have everyone post their addons and look for something in comon
21:24.40SaladForkChaotic_D - that would be easy
21:24.50SaladForkA simple GetPlayerLevel and self:Print()
21:25.05Chaotic_Dmaybe another one for automatically equipping the best equipment you pick up, based on class/talent build/other personalized choices.
21:25.16SaladForkSlightly harder, but still relatively easy
21:25.18JoshBorkeChaotic_D: tekkub has started writing a mod to help with power leveling called TourGuide
21:25.38Chaotic_Dah. :S wonder if I should bother then.
21:25.47SaladForkYou should
21:25.51Grum_SaladFork: mm will do
21:25.51SaladForkIt would be good practice for the future
21:26.02Grum_now i just need grep on a windows box .. oh well cygwin :)
21:26.13SaladForkGrum - google!
21:26.17Chaotic_DI really hate deciding on equipment to wear and throw out and keep though. it would be nice if I could make it all automatic. I just spend too much time on it.
21:26.20SaladForkWait
21:26.30SaladForkWindows Explorer has a built in "Search for text in files"
21:26.31SaladForklol
21:26.43NightHawkTheSaneSaladFork: thats a far cry from grep,though
21:26.52SaladForkChaotic - if you get RatingBuster, you can have it compare your gear and tell you what you gain/lose between two pieces of gear
21:26.57SaladForkNight - it accomplishes the task he needs
21:27.54NightHawkTheSaneugh, i just  stabbed myself on the roof of my mouth with a chip. ><
21:28.22SaladForkNo worse than poking your eye with a Cheeto
21:28.40Grum_SaladFork: you can not be serious about that
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21:28.48SaladForkGrum - which?
21:28.55NightHawkTheSaneactually, aside from the slight pain, it's not that bad, but I kind of like the taste of blood. >.>
21:28.58Grum_are there addons who block the 'second' error message of any kind?
21:29.10Grum_because when i try to whisper a person who gives an error i see nothing
21:29.19Grum_and when i whisper asdasdasd i get the error once
21:29.22Grum_and after that .. not again
21:29.48SaladForkI have a feelign that's what WoW does
21:29.50Grum_so it might be that the addon doing that gets resetted and for some reason another addon is trying to send people who are offline messages
21:29.50GagorianWell, how about you get the error message only the first time?
21:30.11GagorianAS in, it actually errors only when you whisper a new person
21:30.13Grum_well the problem is that with some other people i constantly get errors for no reason what-so-ever
21:30.22SaladForko.O
21:30.26Grum_and i mean constantly - as more than 1 per minute
21:31.05Grum_sooo, any addon which might have that 'feature' and is possibly broken? :)
21:31.16SaladForkGrum - what did you mean?
21:31.19SaladFork[05:28pm] [Grum_] SaladFork: you can not be serious about that
21:31.39Grum_about windows search and infile searches
21:31.44Grum_if something is broken it's that
21:31.49ckknightGrum_: oh, AceComm does that
21:32.01*** join/#wowace HarveyDent (n=HarveyDe@52.250.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com)
21:32.01ckknightyou need to wait 10 seconds in between
21:32.09Grum_ah k
21:32.14HarveyDentthe latest update to prat changes the entire games font
21:32.22Grum_lets see if i can lift that 10 seconds
21:32.22HarveyDentnot sure if that's intended but it does
21:32.38Grum_Prat has the last word in your gamefont, just set it to the right font :)
21:32.51HarveyDentnot really..
21:33.00HarveyDentbeing as prat specifically says "Chat window font"
21:33.08HarveyDentnot entire UI font (including Pitbull, etc. etc.)
21:33.17HarveyDentit really screwed up a lot of my settings everywhere else now.
21:33.21Grum_mmm you didn't isntall clearfont? ;)
21:33.29HarveyDentno I didn't.
21:34.14HarveyDentI have to /console reloadui every time I zone
21:34.39SaladForkharvey - try /rl
21:34.42CIA-1403ominous * r46379 10Cartographer_Data/ (8 files): Cartographer_Data: some fixes, drycoded but no syntax errors
21:35.01SaladForkOminous - How are you syntax checking?
21:35.24HarveyDentwhat does /rl do?
21:35.34ckknightreloads the ui
21:35.52HarveyDentisn't that the same as /console reloadui?
21:35.58SaladForkIt's shorter and quicker to type, =D
21:36.07HarveyDentok... well. heh thank you
21:36.11SaladForkwhich is also the same as /script ReloadUI()
21:36.11HarveyDentbut that isn't the bigger issue
21:36.12GagorianHas anyone else experienced issues with in-game voice chat on PTR turning peoples voices into chipmunks?
21:36.22Chaotic_Dis there a way to get gather data so you don't have to rebuild it yourself all the time?
21:36.26HarveyDentIm not about to type that every time I zone
21:36.29HarveyDentit's an issue with Prat
21:36.38SaladForkChaotic - you can enable database sharing...
21:36.46HarveyDentit was working perfectly last night and just now, after updating, all my fonts in game are all screwy
21:36.53SaladForkHarvey - try updateing again
21:37.37HarveyDentthere's no new update
21:37.43Chaotic_Dit's been a while since I even played WoW. I was thinking of getting back into it.
21:37.46HarveyDentI have the latest - I literally just updated like 10 mnutes ago
21:37.58CIA-1403ominous * r46380 10Cartographer_Data/ (3 files): Cartographer_Data: helps if i delete the old fiels
21:37.59OminousSaladFork: luac
21:38.11cncfanaticsOminous, home now ? :p
21:38.49SaladForkOmi - that work with Windows?
21:38.51HarveyDentyeah using r46377 it still does it
21:39.02Ominouscncfanatics: yes
21:39.06OminousSaladFork: ya
21:39.11cncfanaticstried out FB yet ? what u think of it this far ? :p
21:39.14Ominouscncfanatics: watching friends tho
21:39.32cncfanaticsheh
21:40.51*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-96-27.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
21:41.27charonisn't recount supposed to have a detailed combat log type of display? how do i activate it? or what addon was that?
21:41.41SaladForkClick on somebody's bar in Recount
21:41.49CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46381 10FlexBar2/Layout/Layout.lua:
21:41.49CIA-14FlexBar2:
21:41.49CIA-14Layout.lua:
21:41.49CIA-14<PROTECTED>
21:42.08HarveyDentthe only other issue I know of with Prat is that every time you change chat frame/tab
21:42.14HarveyDentthe chat buttons briefly show up
21:42.22*** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-138-93-24.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
21:42.23HarveyDenteven if hidden, etc.
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21:43.05HarveyDentan example: http://ctscreens.net/8484
21:43.41Arrowmasteri have mine offscreen so i havent noticed that
21:43.51Diaosame
21:43.59Diaowell i don't switch tabs anyway
21:44.02Diaoi have mine all separated
21:44.34HarveyDentyeah it's minor but I'm surprised it's not been reported before
21:44.46HarveyDentmost people using prat must only use one chat view (or two separate ones)
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21:45.14HarveyDentbut yeah - it's brief, less than a second - but very noticeable. And initially upon loading the game, they appear in the wrong place. Like if I told them to be hidden, but be on the left of the frame
21:45.15SaladForkHarvey - I don't see them in the screenie
21:45.16SaladForko.O
21:45.40HarveyDentthey appear on the right of the frame a few ties (when I switch tabs) and then finally go to where they should be (even though, in the first place, they should never appear)
21:46.25HarveyDentthey are to the right of the chat frame, underneath the macro buttons
21:46.25HarveyDentalso another issue in prat
21:46.25HarveyDentsec.. for pastey
21:47.04HarveyDenthttp://ace.pastey.net/72141
21:47.38HarveyDentthat's if I hit "enter" (to open the editbox to start typing) and then manualy click on the editbox
21:48.12HarveyDentthose are my top two issues with prat, atm
21:49.04HarveyDentand I am using r46377 of Prat .. not sure why it's reporting as a lower revision there in !Swatter
21:49.59Diaowhy use swatter o_O
21:50.16HarveyDentwhy not? I don't know heh
21:50.25HarveyDentit works the same as all others, from what I've seen
21:52.02JoshBorkeyou're exactly right, it does work the same :-)
21:52.30*** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@ip72-211-249-44.oc.oc.cox.net)
21:52.49Diaoif you replied to why use swatter.. i got dced :P
21:53.09SaladFork[05:50pm] [Diao] why use swatter o_O
21:53.10SaladFork[05:50pm] [HarveyDent] why not? I don't know heh
21:53.10SaladFork[05:50pm] [HarveyDent] it works the same as all others, from what I've seen
21:53.10SaladFork[05:52pm] [JoshBorke] you're exactly right, it does work the same :-)
21:53.12HarveyDentI was just saying I don't see why not really. I mean it works the same for the end user as far as I can tell
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21:53.24Diaoah
21:53.39Diaoi never actually used it lol
21:53.52Diaoalways just used bugsack since it's on fubar
21:53.57CIA-1403cncfanatics * r46382 10FlexBar2/Core.lua:
21:53.57CIA-14FlexBar2:
21:53.57CIA-14Core.lua:
21:53.57CIA-14<PROTECTED>
21:54.11HarveyDentwell - I might try some others but this one seems to do what I need.
21:54.28JoshBorkethey all do the same
21:54.54HarveyDentBottom line though - I hope those two issues are resolved with Prat.
21:55.08HarveyDentthey aren't terribly major but they do get in the way time to time
21:55.25HarveyDentand I'm sure aren't intended to occur by the author, one way or the other.
21:59.44Chaotic_Dhow can you enable database sharing with Gatherer? that doesn't seem to be a feature of it, unless someone else made a modified one that can.
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21:59.53Wiebbeyo all
22:00.05Chaotic_DHello.
22:00.46SaladForkDitch it and get Cartographer
22:00.47SaladFork=D
22:01.01HarveyDentchaotic
22:01.10HarveyDentas much as I like gatherer (I used it for nearly two years)
22:01.17HarveyDentI switched to Cartographer_Gather
22:01.34HarveyDentit uses way less resources and does exactly the same thing (even with the minimap icons changng, etc.)
22:01.38HarveyDentAnd, has built in sharing
22:02.03HarveyDentYou can even convert your gatherer data to cartographer_gather
22:02.15Chaotic_Dah, cool.
22:02.20Chaotic_Dthanks.
22:02.22cncfanaticsBedtime
22:02.29HarveyDentI was hesitant but it was worth it after the jump
22:02.31HarveyDentnp :)
22:02.42cncfanaticsOminous, please tell me what u thought of it tomorrow :)
22:02.43charonSaladFork: thanks, but i was actually thinking of a table display of the actual combat log, still can't find it :(
22:02.44Wiebbecan anyone tell me where i put this: svn:eol-style native?
22:02.46cncfanaticsor PM me on forums
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22:04.20Silviu-Wiebbe in file properties in tortoise
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22:04.38CIA-1403wiebbe * r46383 10wRlog/ (Core.lua textures/select.tga wRlog.toc):
22:04.38CIA-14wRlog:
22:04.38CIA-14- Added ability to start bids on items using an RP system. Uses an normal auction wise standard bidding system with matching bids. Integrates in the raid report.
22:04.52Wiebbeheh
22:04.54Wiebbei jus found it :)
22:04.57Silviu-:)
22:05.11SaladForkHmm, I should probably get myself SVN access
22:05.17Silviu-Hmm what u ppl recomend to go to after supremus ? Akama ? ;)
22:06.23Mudkipzof course
22:06.31Mudkipzakama is like loot pinata
22:06.37Silviu-Easy ?
22:06.40Mudkipzvery
22:06.44Silviu-Okay
22:06.49Silviu-Supremus was a nice fight :)
22:06.59MudkipzI like akama more than supremus
22:07.05Mudkipzsupremus fight is very "touchy"
22:07.06Silviu-Hard with those volcanos but that`s all :)
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22:07.43durcyni hate supremus only because it gives me nightmares of archimonde
22:07.48Adirelle~framexml
22:07.48purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/
22:08.03Silviu-Hmm in Bigwigs is no file for Akama
22:08.15Silviu-Hmm he do no special abilities ? ;)
22:08.17durcynthere's nothing to track on akama
22:08.23Mudkipzyup
22:08.25durcynyou just blow up adds until the shade gets loose, then burn it down
22:08.39Silviu-Ok :)
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22:08.44Silviu-Never saw him :)
22:08.55Silviu-Must look on some vids till tomorrow :)
22:09.30Arrowmasterwtb mages for raids
22:09.48Silviu-Wts wl :)
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22:10.42Arrowmasteranybody know for sure if you can boil the water in SSC without killing hydross?
22:11.05SaladForkWhere can I get LUAC?
22:11.09Arrowmastertotal fail tonight on mages and tanks with resist gear
22:11.09AntiarcArrowmaster: You can
22:11.14[dRaCo]afaik it's just killing all those mob groups around the lurker
22:11.18AntiarcArrowmaster: We do it any time we don't have one of our Hydross tanks
22:11.28Silviu-Arrowmaster just kill all platforms
22:11.32Silviu-5 ?
22:11.36Silviu-Or how many are there
22:11.41Silviu-Then for 2 h the water boils
22:11.42Silviu-;)
22:11.51Silviu-And no fish around :)
22:11.51Chompersthat'll give you an hour of attempts
22:11.56Chaotic_Dah, I wish it wasn't cheating to have an auto-navigation (by foot/mount) add-on. I remember long ago there was one. :> they really want you to be at the keyboard when you're online.
22:12.10ArrowmasterSaladFork: search sf.net for something like 'wow lua 51'
22:14.22Tinyboomprat_chat bubbles are wrongly aligned suddenly.... :(
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22:18.40CIA-1403cryect * r46384 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua Relog.lua): Relog - Fixes changing font & row height will be immediately reflected now
22:19.44sbCryect: scroll down doesnt work :o
22:20.38Grum_can you hook: SendChatMessage and see whatever called it?
22:20.40Cryecthuh?
22:20.45Cryectwhat do you mean scroll down doesn't work?
22:20.53Grum_and if there any other way to see which addon is trying to whisper who
22:21.30Grum_[00:10:24] <Arrowmaster> anybody know for sure if you can boil the water in SSC without killing hydross? <-- yes 100% sure you can
22:21.36sbCryect: if i scroll down it should stay at the bottom when new entries are added, right?
22:22.05Cryectyeah if you are fully scrolled down yes
22:22.57sbhmm yes but it seems to stop after some time
22:23.03Cryectstrange
22:23.06sbyup :)
22:23.17Cryectother than that how does it feel
22:23.18sband it seems to be off by 1
22:23.26sbi still can stroll down 1 entry
22:23.27ArrowmasterGrum_: if you want to see what its trying to whisper and use that to figure out the addon you can do /script hooksecurefunc("SendChatMessage", function(...) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...) end)
22:23.33sbif it works
22:23.34Chomperswe don't even attempt hydross, we go straight for lurker
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22:24.22Grum_yeah thanks arrow, i just found something similar on the wiki :D
22:24.33Cryectthe scrollbar is still going to look like it can scroll
22:24.36sbhmmm very strange
22:24.37Cryectbut it should really be at the bottom
22:24.48Pkekyothey nerfed windfury?!
22:24.52Cryectits a slight issue with how scrollbars work
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22:26.09Grum_Arrowmaster: that worked but i still get 'No person named 'xxx' is playing.'
22:26.13Cryectmessed at all with adding columns or setting filters?
22:26.17Grum_any other methods of sending a whisper?
22:26.21Cryectjust curious if they seemed to be working right for others
22:26.26Grum_can i hook more filters?
22:26.29sbheh wtf
22:26.31Grum_erm functions
22:26.42sbCryect: not i get some old entries
22:26.45sbwhile doing nothing
22:26.50Arrowmasterit doesnt say what its trying to whisper?
22:26.53Cryectupgrade
22:26.55Cryectits a bug
22:26.57sbi stand around and get some messages about shadowfiend and failed casts
22:27.10Cryectyeah there was an issue with the way I was handling getting logs
22:27.16CryectI think they  are all fixed in the latest version
22:27.28sbah okay, didnt see anything in changelogs
22:27.59Cryector there is another chance you ran intoa  bug I've not figured out how to replicate
22:28.01Cryectbut know of
22:28.12Grum_Arrowmaster: nope
22:28.16Cryectwhere the number of logs doesn't actually equal the value being saved :-p
22:28.20Grum_it tried sending a message myself - it shows perfectly
22:28.26Grum_and the errors are still pooring in
22:28.59Grum_So does anyone else know something which can cause the error: 'No person named 'xxx' is playing.'
22:29.01SaladForkGrum - look up on Wowwiki what else displays that error
22:29.04Grum_kk
22:29.24sbnope Cryect
22:29.26sbstill doing that stuff :o
22:29.40Cryectprolly that other bug I know of but don't know how its caused then
22:29.42sbi run around and see some old messages popping up
22:29.44sbhm yep
22:29.50Grum_<PROTECTED>
22:29.50Grum_<PROTECTED>
22:30.07SaladForkFind out when that error is called
22:30.09SaladForkWhat command
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22:30.45Grum_yes the problem is i have no idea what next to SendChatMessage can send chatmessages and cause that error
22:31.24ArrowmasterSendAddonMessage?
22:31.32Grum_lets hook that one too
22:32.47Cryectsb: try resetting the data and see if it stil occurs
22:32.47Grum_also not showing anything
22:33.24Funkeh`!ap 1700
22:33.25ThraeBotFunkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 436, 3v3: 498, 5v5: 623
22:34.04Grum_Arrowmaster: any more ideas? :/
22:34.09Funkeh`do you get points for all 3 arenas ratings? or only the highest?
22:34.09Arrowmasternope
22:34.15Arrowmasterhighest
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22:35.07Funkeh`!ap 1800
22:35.08ThraeBotFunkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1800 is, 2v2: 532, 3v3: 608, 5v5: 760
22:35.16Funkeh`!ap 1850
22:35.17ThraeBotFunkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1850 is, 2v2: 579, 3v3: 662, 5v5: 828
22:36.54charon"Relog\WindowOrder.lua:58: attempt to index global 'Recount' (a nil value)"
22:37.01charondoesn't that work stand-alone? :)
22:37.35Cryectits supposed to
22:37.40Cryectbut I have some copy and paste things left over!
22:39.23CIA-1403cryect * r46385 10Relog/WindowOrder.lua: Relog - Removed another entry to Recount
22:40.59Chaotic_Dwork on this later. time to go eat.
22:41.03Chaotic_Dthanks for the help.
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23:04.30Mudkipzoooo shi--
23:04.33Mudkipzwhat happaned to my prat
23:04.57NightHawkTheSanei ate it.
23:05.09Mudkipzah toggle shadow I see what you did there
23:05.14Mudkipzcrisis averted
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23:06.12Arrowmasteryeah i was like wtf shadows?
23:07.00MudkipzI think im gonna try out a new font now...
23:07.46CIA-1403cryect * r46387 10Relog/GUI_Table.lua: Relog - Fixes relog being a performance hog when hidden
23:08.14mjciPhone colloquy ftw
23:08.32Mudkipzwhat's the name of the default WoW chat font anyway? it's been so long
23:09.35Arrowmasterisnt iphone colloquy just a webapp?
23:10.16fireglowhas to be
23:11.21mjcThe official one yeah; the phone sleeps after 60sec so not a lot of point in doing it the itherway
23:11.57mjcfireglow no, there is a term, nes emu, and DOOM port
23:12.20fireglowdid that also work after the latest patch? -.-
23:12.30mjcof course
23:15.00CIA-1403cryect * r46388 10Relog/GUI_Table.lua: Relog - Bug fix
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23:20.41CIA-1403javek * r46389 10CrushChance/main.lua:
23:20.41CIA-14CrushChance:
23:20.41CIA-14Added default level functionality, allows you to set a default level to use for hit calculations when you have no target.
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23:25.58SaladForkgay
23:26.07SaladForkargs.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function
23:26.11SaladForkgay => arg
23:26.14SaladForkI mised home row, >.<
23:26.29SaladForkAnyone know how to fix that? My code looks right...
23:28.11Grum_paste code? :)
23:28.18SaladForkhehe
23:28.18SaladForkokay
23:28.33Grum_while i'm still allmost awake to be of any help O.o
23:28.44Grum_this must possibly the worst night ever ..
23:28.53Grum_we kept wiping on gruul ... on ... gruul! :'(
23:28.58SaladForkyuck
23:29.15Grum_seriously, we 2shot hydros .. and we wipe on gruul .. WIPE .. ZOMG
23:29.28Grum_we got respawns @ the end and .. well .. i cried
23:29.39[dRaCo]had that, too... sucks.
23:29.41Arrowmasterwere wiping on lurker.....
23:29.51Grum_we 2shotted lurker ..
23:29.59SaladForkis pastey lagging? =\
23:30.03Grum_seems Gruul is rather unforgiving
23:30.11Grum_just paste the url yourself !
23:30.22SaladForkI mean pastey.net
23:30.24Grum_oh mm the page itself lagging
23:30.25Grum_m
23:30.47Grum_yes it is
23:30.52SaladForkgah
23:31.01Grum_http://nopaste.snit.ch/
23:31.10SilowyiIs there a way to grab the tooltips of active buffs?
23:31.25Silowyior debuffs...
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23:32.05Grum_Silowyi .. very .. known name for me, you didn't happen to play .. gawd what was that game called .. Horizons? :)
23:32.39Grum_O M G :)
23:32.42Grum_meh
23:32.49Grum_we played together for way to long O.o
23:33.02Grum_remember that nub that made that nice 3d ingame map? :/
23:33.10SilowyiO.o
23:33.15Silowyio.O
23:33.17mjclol
23:33.18SilowyiFid?
23:33.23mjcLOL
23:33.27Grum_lol i dont even know my ingame name :'(
23:33.39Grum_i tihnk Fid was the follow up because i kinda stopped playing
23:33.47Silowyinah...
23:33.58Grum_i think i was called Treeness .. and Microness .. and euuh lol .. i cant even remember O.o
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23:34.05Silowyioh wait
23:34.22Silowyiyou helped me get the zone files for the map
23:34.26Grum_but we played a lot together!
23:34.30Grum_yeah hehe
23:34.36Grum_that was a lot of gathering ;)
23:34.37Silowyiyou're not Fid
23:34.40Grum_no i am not
23:34.41Silowyi^_^
23:34.53Grum_hmm didnt you want to play GO with me? :/
23:34.56Silowyiidunactuallyrecallyournameeither >.>
23:35.16Grum_me neither
23:35.20Grum_lol this is like 5 yrs ago orso :D
23:35.44Silowyiyeah, before they went bankrupt the first time even, iirc
23:36.13Grum_yeah :)
23:36.16Silowyido you know how to grab the tooltips of active buffs? :P
23:36.21Grum_nope
23:36.25Grum_just started on this mess myself
23:36.29Silowyiah
23:36.34SaladForkThis is driving me nuts
23:36.35Grum_curious why you would want to do that anyhow ;D
23:36.39SaladForkThe one time I need help, pastey's lagged out
23:36.43Grum_what do you play?
23:36.50Grum_SaladFork also nopaste.snit.ch ? :)
23:36.57SaladForkI don't like the way that formats
23:36.58SaladFork=P
23:37.03Grum_who cares
23:37.05Grum_geiv
23:37.08SaladForkkk
23:37.44Grum_humz we spend a lot of time mining together Silowyi =D
23:37.53SaladForkhttp://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861
23:38.00Grum_i think it was even mithril .. not sure about the ore-names :D
23:38.20SaladForkWith HL: http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on
23:39.05SaladForkShould be nice, simple, and esay
23:39.07SaladFork=\
23:39.46SaladForkAny idea Grum?
23:40.27Grum_i'm reading it over and over seeing if i overlook something obvious O.o
23:40.27SaladForkI get
23:40.27SaladForkargs.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function
23:41.06SaladForkIt looks like a proper function to me
23:41.15Grum_yeah indeed
23:41.42SilowyiGrum: I'm trying to determine the current chance to hit, something that's not available on the paper doll, because the paper doll doesn't take into accound buffs, debuffs, talents, and weapon skill.
23:41.57Grum_oh .. i see what's wrong
23:41.59Grum_i think
23:42.01SaladForkWhat's that Grum?
23:42.12Grum_well yo assign a textstring to the getter and setter
23:42.17SaladForkyeah?
23:42.22Grum_not sure how that evaluates
23:42.34SaladForkget
23:42.34SaladForkstring - Method to call to get the current value.
23:42.36Grum_might be that it looks at that string and goes like .. hey .. that is a string .. not a function! .. bork
23:42.36SaladForkset
23:42.37SaladForkstring - Method to call to set the new value.
23:42.39SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table
23:42.46Grum_mhh
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23:42.52SilowyiSaladFork its a scope issue
23:42.55SaladForkHuh?
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23:43.16Silowyishow me the line where you register the options.
23:43.35Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:43.35Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:43.35Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:44.04SaladForkSil -
23:44.04SaladForkWhatIf:RegisterChatCommand("/whatif", "/wi", options);
23:44.13SaladForkUnless I'm missing something
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23:44.23SilowyiYeah that's what I thought, same thing that happened to me
23:44.27SaladFork?
23:44.29SaladForkWhat am I doing wrong?
23:44.45Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:44.46Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:44.46Grum_<PROTECTED>
23:45.19SaladForkGrum - huh?
23:45.23Silowyibasically the way you're doing it, it ends up looking for a global function getInt, rather than what you want which would be WhatIf:getInt
23:45.33SaladForkShould I set the string to WhatIf:getInt?
23:46.07Grum_well that isn't really true Silowyi, you also set:     handler = "WhatIf",
23:46.14SaladForkYeah, I did
23:46.19Grum_so basically that handler isn't used at all
23:46.25SilowyiI'm not sure if that would work *shrugs* I did self:RegisterChatCommand... in the initialize to get it to find the function.
23:46.41Silowyiah, I didn't see the handler, good point
23:46.44ArrowmasterSaladFork: it should be WhatIf:RegisterChatCommand({"/whatif", "/wi"}, options) i think
23:47.00SaladForkYou're right
23:47.02Silowyioh
23:47.03SaladForkwtf, how did I get that wrong
23:47.09Silowyilol I missed it too
23:47.14SaladForkNo, that can't be it
23:47.16SaladForkI have another addon
23:47.19SaladForkAccomplish:RegisterChatCommand("/accomplish", "/acc", options)
23:47.23SaladForkThat one works 100% fine for me
23:47.48SaladForkBut let me try that anyway
23:47.49Silowyino idea then
23:48.32SaladForksame erorr
23:48.51SaladForkThat's not it
23:49.03Silowyiwhat about what I said? It really looks like a scope problem
23:49.19SaladForktrying
23:49.27SaladForkget = "WhatIf:getInt"
23:49.49Grum_strang thing is, it looks for handler[get]
23:50.03Grum_so with hander:get defined that should be resolving
23:50.06SaladForkNope, same error
23:50.13Grum_try something more silly
23:50.45Grum_local function getInt ... end; WhatIf.getInt = getInt
23:50.49Grum_and then normally 'getInt'
23:51.07SaladForkI'm not even going to try that Grum
23:51.11SaladForkI'm obviously doing something incorrectly
23:51.27Silowyieither that or the handler isn't being used
23:51.32Grum_SaladFork: well i am not sure that lua will store it correctly and you kinda force it like that
23:52.05AntiarcOh lord.
23:52.12SaladForkAnti! Assist me
23:52.14Grum_Antiarc, help ;D
23:52.17Grum_hahaha =D
23:52.20Antiarchttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293029,00.html - "People on the internet are mean, so it should be regulated like a newspaper"
23:52.29AntiarcAnd what's up?
23:52.34mjchmm
23:52.36AntiarcAlso, you're all fat.
23:52.39AntiarcAnd ugly.
23:52.42SaladForkhttp://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on
23:52.51AntiarcOh noes, incoming regulation!
23:52.53Grum_and they smell as well
23:53.00AntiarcYes, can't forget the smellings.
23:53.03SaladForkAnti - http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on
23:53.05NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: lols faux news. :P
23:53.10SaladForkargs.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function
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23:53.31Grum_but Silowyi, what are you playing nowadays?
23:53.39Antiarcget = function() return getInt() end
23:53.48AntiarcErr
23:53.56Antiarcreturn WhatIf:getInt() end
23:54.03Grum_haha even lamer
23:54.11Grum_but why doesnt it resolve the string in the first place?
23:54.16Grum_the code seems to allow it
23:54.40SaladForkAnti - done, reloading
23:54.40AntiarcI'd have to dig into the code to find out why
23:54.40NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: the best part that woman has someone to read her hate mail for her, to protect her sensitive virgin eyes. :P
23:54.40Grum_and actually checks if 'handler[function]' is of a type function
23:54.44AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Yeah, I cracked up at that.
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23:54.52AntiarcGrum_: *shrug*
23:54.58AntiarcI always just do it with anonymous functions
23:55.19SaladForkwhat the hell
23:55.25SaladForkargs.set.args.intellect: "setInt" is not a proper function
23:55.29SaladForkWhy isn't this parsing like it should?
23:55.33Grum_same problem
23:55.33SaladForkYour workaround works, but its ugly
23:55.40SaladForkNo, it's complaining about setInt now
23:55.41Grum_try mine SaladFork :D
23:55.43SaladForkWhich means the workaround works
23:55.53SaladForkWhy doesn't ace do this normalyl? =\
23:55.59SaladForkwtf...
23:56.01AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Did you notice the "Respond to the writer" link at the bottom?
23:56.08Grum_local function setInt ... end; WhatIf.setInt = setInt; :)
23:56.32NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: I did. :P
23:56.34Grum_that should also work eventhough WhatIf:setInt should be some form of syntactic sugar for that
23:56.41AntiarcActually, that should work. get = WhatIf.setInt
23:56.43SaladForkI applied Anti's workaround to the other 2 lines, let see if it works
23:56.47SaladForkThough it shouldn't need me to do that, =\
23:56.47AntiarcErr, getInt, whatever
23:56.57Grum_Antiarc: but that makes no sense
23:57.03Grum_becuse you defined the handler :\
23:57.13AntiarcI wasn't even aware of the handler option.
23:57.15AntiarcSo *shrug*
23:57.20Grum_hihi
23:57.24NightHawkTheSanehandler? i hardly know her.
23:57.35Grum_not so sane after all!
23:58.27Grum_mmmm does wowlua run all of the code in it's buffer every time you add a new 'command' ? :)
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23:59.16SaladForkMy code's worked fine for all my other addons, why's it requiring the full thing now? =\
23:59.35Silowyiit would be very nice if there were a wow api emulator for lua, even if you had to manually set up events and api return values.

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