00:00.10 | Thrae | dre^: A hidden tooltip. Look at the addon IsBuffActive on curses |
00:00.12 | Arrowmaster | Gratuity-2.0 |
00:00.13 | Cryect | No, its not that bad but still its slower than calling a function for a number |
00:00.19 | Thrae | It's a very simple example of how to scan tooltips |
00:00.26 | dre^ | there isn't a function for scanning tooltips either, eh... |
00:00.31 | Thrae | Cryect: Depends on how its done internally, really |
00:00.34 | Cryect | Sure there is dre |
00:00.54 | Arrowmaster | if you have no clue what your doing for trying to scan the tooltip then use Gratuity-2.0 |
00:01.00 | Thrae | dre^: A tooltip is just made up of fontstrings, which are made up of text |
00:01.23 | dre^ | ya I just don't see the functions for interacting with tooltips |
00:01.29 | dre^ | guess I'll look at other mods |
00:01.33 | Thrae | You just grab the text from the line you want and use the very simple pattern "(%d+)" and bingo |
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00:01.57 | Arrowmaster | but you have to grab just about every line till you find what your looking for |
00:01.59 | Thrae | dre^: Like I said, IsBuffActive is like 10 lines of non-optimized code |
00:02.06 | Arrowmaster | seriously if you have no clue what your doing just use Gratuity-2.0 |
00:02.18 | Cryect | Well cooldowns are always line 2 right aren't they or something? |
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00:02.21 | dre^ | IsBuffActive sounds like nothing to do with what I want... but I'll look anyway |
00:02.26 | Arrowmaster | no theyre not always line 2 |
00:02.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont think |
00:02.34 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Not in his case, since he just wants cooldowns, and they're almost always line 2 or line 3 |
00:02.46 | Thrae | scan line 2...no go...scan line 3 |
00:02.47 | Cryect | Pretty sure its fixed unless you have another addon changing it |
00:03.08 | dre^ | is IsBuffActive part of the wow api, or third party? |
00:03.11 | Cryect | Either way its simple |
00:03.19 | Arrowmaster | third party |
00:03.42 | dre^ | I'm fine with using as much ace stuff as I need... haven't looked at other sets of libs |
00:03.43 | Thrae | dre^: It's just an addon, and it scans tooltips for information on whether a buff is active. A tooltip is a tooltip, you can apply the exact same principle to scanning spellbook tooltips. |
00:03.59 | Thrae | dre^: It's not an API, I'm just showing it to you for example code |
00:04.09 | Thrae | Making a hidden tooltip and scanning it is relatively easy |
00:04.11 | dre^ | gotcha |
00:04.23 | Cryect | if you don't know how to do something the best thing to do is look at someone else code since its all open source |
00:04.25 | dre^ | I don't want to make hidden tooltips... |
00:04.31 | Cryect | you have to |
00:04.41 | dre^ | ok |
00:04.59 | CIA-14 | 03archarodim * r46312 10Decursive/Dcr_Events.lua: |
00:04.59 | CIA-14 | Decursive: |
00:04.59 | CIA-14 | - Pet appearance/disappearance events were not triggering an update of the number of MUFs displayed. |
00:04.59 | dre^ | so I ask for a tooltip for a specified slot id, then parse the results? |
00:05.01 | Cryect | be glad you don't have to define an xml file with the hidden tooltip anymore at least |
00:05.10 | Arrowmaster | looking at hourglass, it scans the spellbook tooltips for the cooldown length and uses GetSpellCooldown on SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN |
00:05.16 | Thrae | dre^: If you want to do it entirely in Lua (IsBuffActive uses XML to create the tooltip), look at ThraeAddons in wowinterface.com |
00:06.03 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Hmmm, I guess that's for delays caused by enemy spells |
00:06.10 | wunderboob | any help me with prat2? |
00:06.22 | wunderboob | i zone and the chat goes back to general |
00:06.32 | wunderboob | and i have the lowdown turn off |
00:07.03 | Arrowmaster | dre^: what exactly are you tring to do anyway? i came into the conversation quite late |
00:07.04 | dre^ | thanks thrae :) |
00:07.33 | dre^ | Arrowmaster: I'm making a simple indicator of spell cooldowns of other party members. Going to use the addon chat channel to do message passing about cooldown times and such |
00:07.49 | dre^ | I realize that necb does this, but it also does a lot of other things I don't want |
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00:08.09 | dre^ | it all just seems rediculously complex, but I'm beginning to understand why... |
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00:08.27 | Lysistrata | Hi |
00:08.34 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r46313 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-Options.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Clean up some global namespace pollution + fix for nil errors |
00:08.53 | Arrowmaster | ah for that you could just hardcode all the cooldown times in your addon and use the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events to start the timers when your party members spells finish casting |
00:08.55 | Thrae | dre^: If you think what you're trying to do is ridiculously complex, then making a framework like Ace2 is impossibly complex. |
00:09.06 | Lysistrata | Erhm just wanted to know if there is any "offical" way to enter a request or another kind of feedback for a specific mod. |
00:09.20 | Thrae | Lysistrata: Use Trac |
00:09.31 | Arrowmaster | if your doing tooltip scaning and other such stuff then it sounds like your addon would have to be run by every partymember |
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00:09.50 | Lysistrata | Thansk Thrae |
00:09.57 | Arrowmaster | is trac fixed yet? |
00:10.08 | dre^ | Thrae: which package should I get? ThraeFuncs? TinyTip? |
00:10.11 | Lysistrata | I guess I'll need to register for trac? |
00:10.19 | Thrae | dre^: Oops yeah I meant ThraeFuncs |
00:10.20 | wunderboob | how do i make it so prat2 dont change my chat view to general when i zone to a place? |
00:10.22 | dre^ | k thx |
00:10.37 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: can you remove the waterfall requirement that was recently added |
00:10.46 | wunderboob | i have chat showing party talk and then when i fly over places it change it back to general always |
00:10.48 | Thrae | None of ThraeFuncs really work anymore, hehe |
00:10.58 | Thrae | Well except the tooltip scanning code |
00:12.08 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, the new bag/category config uses waterfall |
00:12.29 | baer_ | good night |
00:12.36 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: then make the config optional if waterfall is loaded |
00:13.53 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, why is loading waterfall a problem ? |
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00:14.55 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: I don't like or use it |
00:15.14 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: I'm satisfied with dewdrop I don't want or need waterfall |
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00:15.37 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, there is no dewdrop equivalent for the edit window |
00:15.49 | Thrae | Nargiddley: "Edit Window"? |
00:15.49 | Funkeh` | I'm not bothered |
00:15.58 | Funkeh` | The exisiting functionality is what I want and use |
00:16.10 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Just wait until you find an addon that has like 5 nested levels of options ;) |
00:16.17 | Nargiddley | Thrae, edit bags and categories |
00:16.18 | Lysistrata | Hmmm besides the possibilitie of just giving a Feature Request for PitBull does anybody know of an Addon which enables/disables the standard Pet Happines Icon? |
00:16.28 | Funkeh` | Thrae: I hardly ever even open a baggins config option |
00:16.44 | Funkeh` | Thrae: I just want a basic sorted all in one bag but that seems to be hard to find |
00:16.48 | Thrae | Nargiddley: Oh, I thought you were talking Waterfall vs Dewdrop |
00:17.19 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Sorting is a very slow process no matter how you do it. Best to just use MrPlow + your favorite all-in-one bag addon |
00:17.41 | Funkeh` | Thrae: I like baggins because it doesn't actually do any item moving, just displaying |
00:17.58 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Right. Auto-sorting is very, very evil. |
00:17.58 | Nargiddley | hm, how does :HasInstance handle not loaded but present libraries ? |
00:18.38 | ckknight | it'll load em and return true |
00:18.52 | Nargiddley | k |
00:19.01 | Thrae | http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Best_of_Conservapedia |
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00:24.57 | wunderboob | i search on wow forum and foun a post |
00:25.09 | wunderboob | it says to use chatframe1:show |
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00:25.23 | wunderboob | i try this in the game and same thing happen |
00:25.40 | wunderboob | i zone iin wow and the prat2 chat goes back to general |
00:26.16 | Arrowmaster | you mean the "General" tab aka chatframe1 is ontop? |
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00:27.13 | wunderboob | i think so yeah |
00:27.21 | Arrowmaster | and you dont want it to do that? |
00:27.22 | wunderboob | i try to use it like it say |
00:27.33 | wunderboob | it say to make a chat come back that goes away |
00:27.42 | wunderboob | i type /script chatframe#:show() |
00:27.46 | wunderboob | and with ht same one |
00:27.59 | wunderboob | i type /script chatframe#:hide() for the one i want to hide |
00:28.05 | wunderboob | i put that on a button |
00:28.09 | wunderboob | those two in one button |
00:28.16 | wunderboob | but when i zone in wow like flying over many place |
00:28.22 | wunderboob | it keep going back to general |
00:28.26 | wunderboob | and i keep have to hit button |
00:28.34 | wunderboob | i use prat2 |
00:28.45 | Arrowmaster | theres an option in prat to force first chat tab or something |
00:28.51 | Arrowmaster | i think its in the chatframes module |
00:28.59 | wunderboob | yeah |
00:29.08 | wunderboob | what if i turn that off already |
00:29.18 | wunderboob | i turn that off, the one you say |
00:30.02 | Arrowmaster | hiding and showing of frames doesnt save between sessions unless your using a mod to hide them and save them as hidden |
00:30.16 | wunderboob | i dont logoff though |
00:30.22 | wunderboob | this hppen just walking around |
00:30.27 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46314 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua parse.lua): Relog - Log stays in place now if a the very bottom of the table |
00:30.38 | wunderboob | like when i go on my mage and i walk from mage area to auction |
00:30.47 | Arrowmaster | does it say hidden when not using prat? |
00:30.49 | wunderboob | it change my chat to general |
00:31.01 | wunderboob | yeah because then the chat button are on |
00:31.09 | wunderboob | the one that i make that say general, party |
00:31.16 | wunderboob | i click on those tab and they stay fine |
00:31.36 | wunderboob | but when i hide those tab with prat2 they go away and i use this button like the man on wow forum say |
00:31.51 | wunderboob | the one i make for /script |
00:31.59 | Lysistrata | Whats the best Way to findout the name of a certain Frame? |
00:32.07 | Lysistrata | A standard one. |
00:32.25 | Arrowmaster | Lysistrata: mouseover and /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
00:32.33 | Arrowmaster | or use devtools |
00:32.55 | Lysistrata | Ok, Thanks ^^ |
00:33.09 | Arrowmaster | wunderboob: if you want to use those macros then youll probably have to disable prat |
00:33.23 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r46315 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-Options.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Waterfall is now optional again, the Bag/Category editor will be disabled if waterfall is not present |
00:33.25 | wunderboob | but prat2 is one i like |
00:33.45 | wunderboob | i dont lie to have only one chat though |
00:33.49 | wunderboob | it get too much in one |
00:34.22 | Arrowmaster | cant you just use the different tabs if you dont want to see everything at once? |
00:34.31 | wunderboob | i have them hide though |
00:34.39 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, there |
00:35.01 | Lysistrata | The Tabs are hidden anyway or? So just as soon as you mouseover the chat you'll slighty seem 'em shouldn't be that bad IMO |
00:35.03 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: thanks |
00:35.04 | wunderboob | if they show it make to much mess |
00:35.55 | wunderboob | i use prat2 and make my raid show up above chat |
00:36.01 | wunderboob | but if tab are on then it cover them |
00:36.06 | wunderboob | only the bottom two man |
00:36.42 | wunderboob | can i make more /script to use with it? |
00:37.03 | wunderboob | so it know not to make it change to general? |
00:38.23 | sb | Cryect: thank you :) |
00:38.33 | sb | Cryect: and some 'clear' function? *hides* :p |
00:40.16 | Lysistrata | Errr do I need to create a .lua/.toc etc. in order to make a standard frame movable? Isn't it possible by just using /script? |
00:40.29 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46316 10Relog/parse.lua: Relog - Fixes an off by one error with retrieving logs |
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00:50.25 | Grum_ | mm how is 'embeds.xml' different than just naming whatever you 'embed' in your .toc? :) |
00:51.40 | Nargiddley | doesnt cause an error in framexml.log when the file doesnt exist, and is a way to define which file are embeds for when an updater installs without externals |
00:52.25 | Grum_ | mm k |
00:52.39 | Grum_ | anyone used Graph-2.0 before? ;) |
00:53.51 | Grum_ | mmm 1.0 even |
00:54.04 | ccKep | played a bit with it |
00:54.44 | Grum_ | what would be the best way to draw ontop of the Cartographer map-frame? |
00:55.07 | Grum_ | create 'yet another frame' over it and draw onto that one? |
00:55.54 | kergoth | Grum_, gonna plot routes? |
00:56.03 | Grum_ | yup |
00:56.10 | kergoth | thatd be excellent |
00:56.14 | Grum_ | yup ;D |
00:56.19 | kergoth | like the FollowMe test addon, but as a cart module? |
00:56.29 | Grum_ | i dont know followme :/ |
00:56.35 | kergoth | check it out |
00:56.44 | Grum_ | i still need a screenshot of that ;D |
00:56.47 | kergoth | little test addon on the svn that uses graphlib to record a route you take |
00:56.49 | kergoth | and draw it |
00:57.01 | kergoth | just doesnt overlay onto cart based on where it was recorded from |
00:57.30 | Grum_ | i have simply no idea how the 'graphics' system works in wow |
00:57.41 | kergoth | that makes two of us |
00:58.01 | Grum_ | i know there are multiple layers and frames with childframes |
00:58.35 | Grum_ | so i probably have to either hook myself into the cartographer frame |
00:58.59 | Grum_ | or create something which lays ontop of it .. orso |
01:00.05 | ccKep | graph-1.0 lets you define a parent frame to draw on, doesn't it? |
01:00.21 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Graph-1.0 |
01:00.27 | ccKep | CreateGraph functions all got parent parameter |
01:00.47 | Grum_ | i assume i'll need to use: :DrawLine(C, sx, sy, ex, ey, w, color, layer) |
01:01.04 | ccKep | think so |
01:01.07 | Grum_ | mmm or :CreateGraphLine |
01:01.59 | kergoth | i dont know a great deal about it, but i'd expect the key would be just setting up the graph's coordinates system to match the world map's coordinates system. |
01:02.12 | kergoth | so the route is layed in the correct spot |
01:03.19 | kergoth | meh, i need to decide whether to try to keep doing pvp with my existing rogue, even though most of his gear has +hit and is pve oriented.. or level a new rogue to do pvp, or just pvp with my bm hunter and settle for that |
01:04.18 | Wobin | ramp up your agi and go survivial =) |
01:04.46 | Grum_ | ah i can steal the coordinate system from carto |
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01:05.50 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if i'd enjoy the rogue or the hunter more in pvp |
01:06.01 | Wobin | depends on what pvp |
01:06.04 | Wobin | arena? |
01:06.15 | Wobin | you'll spend a whole lot of time as a hunter scrambling for room |
01:06.17 | kergoth | i've heard both rogues and hunters arent exactly top notch in arenas |
01:06.24 | kergoth | what with LoS issues and stuff |
01:06.27 | Wobin | yeah |
01:06.27 | kergoth | (for the hunter) |
01:06.38 | Wobin | that's why maybe survival could be better |
01:06.38 | Grum_ | humz lets try to just draw a fat line somewhere =D |
01:06.44 | Wobin | cause you'll just tripletrap the others =P |
01:06.47 | kergoth | hehe |
01:06.58 | kergoth | i was SV for a bit, the utility is wild |
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01:07.11 | Wobin | I'm ramping up my agi liek woah |
01:07.15 | Wobin | so I can give it a try |
01:07.22 | kergoth | i'm debating leveling a new rogue, making him a master hammersmith, and going combat maces |
01:07.33 | Wobin | so.. much... effort =( |
01:07.40 | Wobin | I'm doing that atm |
01:07.47 | Wobin | but the grinding the blacksmithing up is painful |
01:07.55 | kergoth | bs is the one prof i've never had |
01:08.06 | Wobin | and looking at the mat requirements for the top level maces is painful |
01:08.20 | kergoth | i do have a 375 miner though, the hunter, could farm well for me |
01:08.29 | Wobin | nah |
01:08.33 | Wobin | farming ore isn't fun |
01:08.37 | Wobin | you need a stockpile |
01:10.50 | Wobin | I don't know if I can ever play again |
01:10.53 | Wobin | after yesterday |
01:11.02 | Wobin | it'll all be an anticlimax |
01:11.59 | RogueShadow | what happened yesterday? |
01:12.21 | NightHawkTheSane | friday ended. |
01:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | stardust! |
01:13.08 | Wobin | RogueShadow: Beastlord Helm, Beastlord shoulders, SV gun, SL gun, and Sonic Spear =) |
01:13.32 | Wobin | and two +30something agi rings |
01:13.44 | Wobin | all in about 4 instance runs |
01:14.11 | RogueShadow | ah |
01:14.29 | RogueShadow | Yeah, there is a certain joy in aquiring them, which can never come again. |
01:14.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: you're right, that is an anticlimax compared to stardust. |
01:14.42 | RogueShadow | Maybe that's why I like having 10 alts. :) |
01:15.58 | Wobin | I'm going to have to get my rogue up to 70 |
01:16.04 | Wobin | run shadowlabs for the blackout truncheon |
01:17.12 | Grum_ | LOL |
01:17.19 | Grum_ | i just draw a fat line across my screen |
01:17.20 | Grum_ | gri |
01:17.32 | Wobin | grats! |
01:18.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "Let's just say Jack made a reference to Freyr's mother." |
01:18.12 | Grum_ | humz |
01:18.20 | Grum_ | which layers do we have? :D |
01:18.49 | kergoth | Wobin, heh, i've passed on that like 3 times on my rogue.. how much ya wanna bet i never see it again if i level a second :) |
01:19.03 | Grum_ | background, overlay, artwork mmm |
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01:19.53 | CIA-14 | 03sole * r46317 10Gladiator/Gladiator.lua: |
01:19.53 | CIA-14 | Gladiator: |
01:19.53 | CIA-14 | - enemy rating and rank show correctly |
01:19.53 | CIA-14 | - class icons for invisible classes show correctly |
01:19.53 | CIA-14 | - fixed empty Gladiator frame bug |
01:19.53 | CIA-14 | - changes by: Serus |
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01:33.01 | sb | :)) Cryect |
01:33.52 | Cryect | So curious you play around with edting/adding columns? |
01:34.30 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: stop quoting SG-1 episodes, you keep making me watch them ;) |
01:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: doo iiit! |
01:37.18 | Gnarfoz | NO U |
01:37.19 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
01:37.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i am... >.> |
01:37.56 | Gnarfoz | trying to watch a star trek dubbing ;D |
01:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | pffffff. |
01:38.32 | Gnarfoz | it's a bit older, but still classic, lots of funnay^^ |
01:38.37 | NightHawkTheSane | which ep? |
01:38.48 | Sole | Im getting unit tokens of "up" and "down" wtf |
01:38.51 | Gnarfoz | TNG, "Allegiance" |
01:39.20 | Gnarfoz | at the beginning, Picard is transported/copied to some kind of small prison with 2 (later 3) others there with him |
01:39.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, I recall thatone |
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01:39.47 | CIA-14 | AutoBar: |
01:39.47 | CIA-14 | zhCN updated |
01:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | that was pretty good |
01:40.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah the original one was good in its own right |
01:40.13 | Gnarfoz | but this... xD |
01:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
01:41.04 | Gnarfoz | kind of hard though, I'm only getting minutes at a time because I'm farming Mechanar chests with 2 rogues at the same time ^^ |
01:42.06 | Sole | mechanar chests are still farmable? |
01:42.15 | Gnarfoz | yes |
01:42.16 | Sole | thought they fixed em |
01:42.17 | Gnarfoz | it's not 2.2 yet |
01:42.27 | Sole | got anything good yet? |
01:42.34 | Gnarfoz | not today |
01:43.03 | Gnarfoz | but I've got some blues stockpiled in my bank to sell when there's not (m)any of them on the AH |
01:43.45 | Gnarfoz | trying to make as much out of this as I can, while it's still possible... I actually might gonna have an epic flying mount some day, yet ^^ |
01:43.46 | Mudkipz | Is there a command for craftlist2 that forces a scan on the jewelcrafting? |
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01:46.46 | Mudkipz | or even know of how clist2 scans your designs |
01:47.05 | sb | Cryect: not yet :o |
01:47.43 | Sole | how frustrating -_- "up" and "down" keep apearing as units to me |
01:50.45 | Gnarfoz | yay, some minutes free time - both characters at instance reset limit ;D |
01:50.46 | Cryect | sb: heh well when you do you prolly want to check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Relog/Tags for all the possible tags :-p |
01:50.58 | Cryect | I need to document them better but they are all there at least |
01:53.58 | Tuller | what will you do when the blizzard combat log stuff is implemented? jump for joy? :) |
01:54.18 | Cryect | Be glad its easier to track Unit Data |
01:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "I'd like to take the time to say, this is a very poorly designed bomb, and we should say something to someone when we get back." |
01:58.32 | Gnarfoz | heh |
02:01.05 | Amadeo | Anyone remember what MoB Gaming's arena team name really was? |
02:01.11 | Amadeo | Was it Evil Genius or something? |
02:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | "Carter...I can see my house!" |
02:03.49 | art3mis | Who would win in a fight between Lemmy and God? |
02:03.52 | art3mis | TRICK QUESTION!@ |
02:03.56 | art3mis | Lemmy IS God |
02:04.24 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom is god. |
02:04.56 | art3mis | so my mom is lemmy? |
02:05.03 | Keias | airheads was an awesome movie |
02:05.08 | art3mis | thats kind of disturbing, yet cool |
02:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ... yes? |
02:06.52 | art3mis | heh i spent part of yesterday watching all the episodes of Greg the Bunny |
02:07.11 | art3mis | and ive only come to the conclusion that sarah silverman is a cutie |
02:10.44 | kenlyric | the conclusion you are supposed to reach is that seth green is a god. |
02:11.44 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: Evil Genius it was |
02:12.28 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane is your god, bitches |
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02:16.57 | Mudkipz | anyone else use xs.to imagehosting? |
02:17.06 | Mudkipz | my friend says "i clicked yours and my wep page imploded and my virus scanner popped up and found 4 things" from my thumbnail |
02:17.12 | Mudkipz | kinda concerned |
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02:17.53 | CIA-14 | AutoBar: |
02:17.54 | CIA-14 | - Fixed localization koKR |
02:18.31 | Silowyi | I could use some help or a pointer in the right direction if someone cares to give some advice. |
02:19.12 | Silowyi | I need to identify buffs and talents that increase hit chance, like for instance the draenei racial, or weapon masteries |
02:19.16 | Silowyi | or the human racial |
02:19.59 | Thrae | Silowyi: Welcome to tooltip scanning. |
02:21.28 | Silowyi | hmm |
02:21.39 | Silowyi | do the talents show up as hidden passive buffs? (hopeful) |
02:22.21 | Thrae | Silviu-: Welcome to scanning the talent tree |
02:22.41 | art3mis | Thrae is our Welcome Bot |
02:22.57 | Silowyi | Thrae: I foresee pain? |
02:23.48 | Thrae | Silowyi: Indeed. |
02:24.03 | Silowyi | >.> |
02:24.45 | Thrae | Silowyi: What do you need the values for? There's an easier way to just get your current hit percentage, talents, etc. included |
02:24.52 | Silowyi | Really? |
02:25.18 | Silowyi | GetCombatRating doesn't do it |
02:25.58 | Thrae | Silowyi: Lemme check FrameXML... |
02:26.08 | dodga | So I get spammed with /$somethingSpyGnome and /$afasdfBigWigasdfasf |
02:26.14 | dodga | Is that normal? :D |
02:26.15 | Diao | lol |
02:26.20 | Diao | did anyone else's cycircled reset |
02:26.23 | Diao | after latest update |
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02:27.11 | Silowyi | The Hit Rating display under Melee in the character pane doesn't reflect buffs that add %chance to hit. It only reflects hit rating :( |
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02:28.16 | ulic | so convert hit rating to % and then + |
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02:29.56 | Thrae | Silowyi: Play with FrameXML\PaperDollFrame.lua and PaperDollFrame_SetStat(...). That uses the UnitStat command. |
02:29.56 | Silowyi | Yes that's the way I thought I'd have to go, Thrae seems to have another method perhaps |
02:30.05 | Thrae | !api UnitStat |
02:30.06 | ThraeBot | Thrae: base, stat, posBuff, negBuff = UnitStat("unit", statID); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitStat |
02:30.19 | Silowyi | ah... cool that should be helpful |
02:30.25 | Thrae | Silowyi: "posBuff" and "negBuff" looks most helpful ;) |
02:30.27 | Silowyi | thank you Thrae! |
02:30.39 | Silowyi | hmm |
02:30.43 | Thrae | Yep, remember to always download FrameXML for starting out with coding |
02:30.45 | Silowyi | the docs on that say its only for stats |
02:30.59 | Silowyi | agi/str/spi/sta/int |
02:31.25 | Thrae | Ah, wait, lemme scroll down on PaperDrollFrame.lua |
02:31.29 | Thrae | s/Droll/Doll/ |
02:32.03 | Silowyi | does purl do that automatically? |
02:32.08 | Silowyi | s/does/did |
02:32.14 | Silowyi | s/does/did/ |
02:32.19 | Silowyi | rofl |
02:32.20 | Silowyi | that's great |
02:32.30 | Thrae | !api GetCombatRating |
02:32.31 | ThraeBot | Thrae: rating = GetCombatRating(combatRatingIdentifier) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating |
02:32.35 | Thrae | !api GetCombatRatingBonus |
02:32.36 | ThraeBot | Thrae: bonus = GetCombatRatingBonus(combatRatingIdentifier) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRatingBonus |
02:32.46 | Thrae | Those are the ones you want, sorry to get you off-track |
02:32.50 | Silowyi | yeah again... those don't reflect percentage buffs |
02:32.56 | Thrae | The Bonus should |
02:33.03 | Silowyi | it doesn't... verified |
02:33.36 | Silowyi | its actually what my mod currently uses, and I just spent an entire Karazhan raid last night grouped with a draenei |
02:34.00 | Silowyi | and the hit rating from that API call did not reflect the 1% buff |
02:34.07 | Thrae | if ( ratingIndex == CR_HIT_MELEE ) then statFrame.tooltip2 = format(CR_HIT_MELEE_TOOLTIP, UnitLevel("player"), ratingBonus) |
02:34.23 | Silowyi | [21:27] (Silowyi): The Hit Rating display under Melee in the character pane doesn't reflect buffs that add %chance to hit. It only reflects hit rating :( |
02:35.30 | Thrae | Silowyi: That's because it goes against GetCombatRatingBonus, not GetCombatRating. The latter is post-buff, the former is the base bonus applied to UnitLevel. |
02:36.21 | Funkeh` | if anyone missed it http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320&sid=1 |
02:36.21 | Thrae | Silowyi: When buffed, GetCombatRatingBonus * UnitLevel("player") ~= GetCombatRating |
02:36.41 | Thrae | Silowyi: When buffed, GetCombatRatingBonus(ratingIndex) * UnitLevel("player") ~= GetCombatRating(ratingIndex) |
02:36.54 | Thrae | Silowyi: Make a Dranei and test it out |
02:36.55 | Silowyi | of course not |
02:37.37 | Silowyi | here's the code my addon currently uses |
02:38.18 | Silowyi | self.db.profile.hit_bonus = GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_HIT_MELEE); |
02:38.55 | Silowyi | And that does not reflect talents or buffs. I've tested it on a human rogue, and grouped with a draenei shaman |
02:39.34 | Thrae | Silowyi: What about GetCombatRating? Did you test that too? |
02:40.22 | Silowyi | No, I figured by the descriptions that the result would be the same... the buff doesn't actually add hit rating, it adds 1% chance |
02:40.53 | Thrae | Silowyi: Check anyway ;) |
02:41.19 | cladhaire | I need to make the buffs for my PetFrame always active |
02:42.22 | cladhaire | or even better show them in my normal buff display |
02:42.26 | cladhaire | that sounds like a good addon, heh |
02:43.30 | Silowyi | hmm is there a replacement for /script SendChatMessage()? |
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02:44.00 | BankZ | Does the effective healing mod for Violation work for anyone? |
02:44.14 | Thrae | Silowyi: /p, /s, etc. |
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02:45.56 | Amadeo | Raven Lord mount has to be the sexiest mount in the game |
02:46.16 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's the sexiest mount in the game. |
02:46.32 | Silowyi | Thrae I'm fairly certain I can't use /s GetcombatRating(CR_MELEE_HIT); and expect it to work ^_^. |
02:47.18 | ulic | for testing stuff I usually just dump it out with /script message(blah()) |
02:47.24 | ulic | not pretty, but works |
02:47.42 | Thrae | Silowyi: You asked for an alternative to /script SendChatMessage(), not an alternative which would allow scripted inside your message ;) |
02:48.28 | Silowyi | ulic: /script message(blah()) doesn't seem to be working for me. |
02:48.52 | ulic | well you have to insert your own function in place of blah |
02:49.01 | Silowyi | ok let me rephrase :P |
02:49.25 | Silowyi | ulic: /script message(GetCombatRating(CR_MELEE_HIT... oh fudge |
02:49.29 | Silowyi | it's HIT_MELEE |
02:49.31 | Silowyi | nvm |
02:50.35 | Diao | how do you print the second returned value |
02:50.35 | Diao | :o |
02:51.18 | ulic | yea, if there are two values returned that doesn't work |
02:51.46 | ulic | sometimes I'll just stick it in a macro that way it's multi-line lua |
02:52.08 | ulic | also helps if I need to reload the ui, I don't have to type it again. |
02:52.31 | ulic | but there are also addons that do similar things, I think Omnibus will execute scripts |
02:52.40 | Sole | whats the unit command to determine if a unit is a pet? |
02:53.24 | Diao | IsPet? |
02:53.44 | Diao | wiat nm |
02:53.46 | Diao | that's a dogtag |
02:53.48 | Diao | lol |
02:54.17 | Antiarc | Use UnitPlayerControlled() and not UnitIsPlayer() |
02:55.07 | Sole | thanks antiarc |
02:55.25 | Sole | I just assumed UnitIsPet to exist, so much for assumptions -_- |
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02:57.41 | ccKep | [04:47:18] <ulic> for testing stuff I usually just dump it out with /script message(blah()) <<< AceConsole /print blah() works wonders, even for multiple return values ^.^ |
02:58.57 | ulic | well there you have it |
03:00.23 | ccKep | /print GetGuildRosterInfo(2) |
03:00.26 | ccKep | -> "D\195\169ie", "Member", 3, 70, "Shaman", "Shattrath City", "", "", 1, "" |
03:00.28 | ccKep | ^.^ |
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03:01.45 | ccKep | heya ck |
03:01.57 | ckknight | hey |
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03:02.57 | HarveyDent | Is the guy that does Prat is here here? |
03:02.59 | HarveyDent | *he |
03:03.03 | HarveyDent | or I gues... she |
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03:05.57 | CIA-14 | 03syntherift * r46321 10Numen/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
03:05.57 | CIA-14 | Numen: |
03:05.57 | CIA-14 | - Added localization for fubar options. |
03:05.57 | CIA-14 | - Added padding, scale, and alpha options. |
03:05.57 | CIA-14 | - Added "Totem Stomper" macro functionality (check per char macros) |
03:09.44 | BankZ | Does the effective healing mod for Violation work for anyone? |
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03:10.21 | ccKep | a guildmate mentioned it too... I don't have it installed, what it supposed to do? |
03:10.36 | ccKep | afaik the normal "Healing Done" window already shows effective? |
03:11.27 | ccKep | tested it ooc with full hp, healed myself and it didn't appear in "Healing Done", just "Overhealing".. so I thought that its already effective |
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03:12.19 | Silowyi | statute of limitations might be up on this conversation |
03:12.43 | Silowyi | but Thrae, GetCombatRating doesn't reflect draenei racial buff |
03:14.55 | ccKep | draenei racial doesn't appear in character screen too, wouldn't wonder if it doesn't even work (though I think it does...) |
03:15.31 | BankZ | ccKep: it shows ooc healing, the effective healing (poorly named) should only be in combat |
03:15.57 | ccKep | I reset once I enter combat, so I don't really care about that =) |
03:16.01 | BankZ | its a poorly named addon |
03:16.30 | ckknight | soo... |
03:16.36 | ckknight | watching Evan Almighty |
03:16.43 | ccKep | watched it an hour ago |
03:16.49 | ccKep | pretty weird story |
03:16.53 | BankZ | but without a ooc filter violation is kinda pointless for healers |
03:17.02 | ckknight | and I'm pretty sure that all the species of the world don't live within walking distance |
03:17.50 | Thorgard | ckknight, depends on where you live. |
03:18.03 | ckknight | no, nowhere is that true. |
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03:18.21 | ccKep | BankZ: healers can check to auto reset on entering combat, noone cares about trashmob "effective healing done" Oo |
03:18.22 | Thorgard | ckknight, sure it is.. 'cause it also depends on how big you are.. |
03:19.07 | ckknight | ...no |
03:20.16 | ccKep | hmhmhm |
03:20.23 | ccKep | 5:20 here |
03:20.30 | ccKep | raid invite begins 14:30 |
03:20.30 | Sole | has somebody seen this error before? http://ace.pastey.net/72089 |
03:22.19 | ccKep | dunno what Cockfight.lua line 364 is ^.^ |
03:22.26 | Sole | ignore that bit |
03:22.34 | Sole | I mean dont ignore it |
03:23.02 | Sole | line 364 is simply a couple Unit**** functions calling the unit token |
03:23.06 | ccKep | calling something with an unknown unit token ("down") |
03:23.22 | ccKep | there is no unitid named "down" in WoW that I know of |
03:23.28 | Sole | I know that |
03:23.49 | Sole | Im asking why the hell its coming up from mouseover/target/party target units |
03:24.05 | Sole | I also get the unit token "up" appearing |
03:24.20 | ccKep | onclick event with mousedown / mouseup stuff? |
03:24.48 | Sole | maybe but I dont have any onclick stuff in cockfight |
03:25.39 | ccKep | all it says is you're using an invalid unit token.. I don't know what that causes without looking at any code ;) |
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03:26.43 | HarveyDent | I've noticed lately that FuBar uses about 8-10MB of UI memory |
03:26.48 | HarveyDent | is that common/normal? |
03:26.53 | JoshBorke | then get a new mod |
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03:27.02 | ccKep | with or without externals? |
03:27.10 | HarveyDent | I don't know what an external is |
03:27.16 | ckknight | that means yes |
03:27.19 | HarveyDent | but I run a few mods |
03:27.42 | HarveyDent | but even with just three enabled plus FuBar it takes up about 8.75MB after several minutes |
03:27.44 | ccKep | well, guess you're checking with PerformanceFu, right? |
03:27.59 | HarveyDent | and it's .. whatever rate the increasing rate is alwys a constant +700KiB |
03:28.07 | HarveyDent | yes |
03:28.29 | ccKep | does it show something like "Ace2" in the list for example? |
03:28.50 | Cyrez | WoW uses 5MB by itself, I noticed. |
03:29.13 | ccKep | 10mb is quite a lot, even with externals... but that could be an explanation |
03:29.45 | Thrae | Cyrez: Depends on how much of the UI you're using at the time -- lot of the stuff is LoD. So if you go to the Auction House, it'll load the Auction House frames, which of course can't be unloaded until you enter an instance, do /console reload, etc. |
03:30.06 | Cyrez | Ooo. ^^ |
03:30.07 | JoshBorke | unloads happen on zoning? |
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03:30.42 | HarveyDent | sorry was disconnectd |
03:30.53 | HarveyDent | No Ace2 is not showing up at least in the top 20 |
03:30.56 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Honestly, I can't remember |
03:30.59 | HarveyDent | the top 3 however are... |
03:31.15 | HarveyDent | FuBar at 3.83MB @ +830KiB |
03:31.26 | ccKep | thats not 10mb ;) |
03:31.32 | HarveyDent | PitBull @ 2.78MB @ +10KiB |
03:31.34 | HarveyDent | yeah, not yet |
03:31.38 | HarveyDent | give it 10-20 minutes |
03:31.50 | HarveyDent | thats why I listed the increasing rate |
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03:32.07 | Thrae | Anyway, Total Memory Usage == Not Indictative Of Anything. Your big three are: Load Time, Mem Increase/sec, and CPU Usage. Unless you're trying to run WoW under 256MB of RAM, total memory usage is not helpful for optimization. |
03:32.11 | HarveyDent | Does turning FuBar transparent result in this? |
03:32.32 | HarveyDent | Because this only occurred since I turned it transparent. Normally it would never show up in my top three at all |
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03:32.34 | CIA-14 | Numen: |
03:32.34 | CIA-14 | - guess i should test before comitting |
03:32.36 | HarveyDent | not even top 5 |
03:32.59 | Thrae | If your UI uses 300MB of memory, loads in 1 second, uses 1% CPU, and increases by 1KB/s, who cares about the 300MB |
03:33.10 | HarveyDent | It was only AtlasLoot and Cartographer that would ever be present in the top 5 consistently. Now Pitbull is up there all the time |
03:33.22 | HarveyDent | Thrae - memory leaks aren't a concern? |
03:33.27 | ccKep | to be honest: I can't believe that 700KiB/s increasing rate.. but if it's true I think one of you're addons might be bugged ;) |
03:33.36 | ccKep | (atleast not long term constant 700) |
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03:33.41 | Thrae | HarveyDent: Memory leaks would be the amount the memory is increasing, not the total memory used |
03:33.49 | HarveyDent | they are relative. |
03:33.54 | HarveyDent | so I don't see your point |
03:34.22 | Thrae | HarveyDent: Not unless you compare them on load vs after x amount of hours |
03:34.25 | Comx | ckknight: why when i use this code [GuildRank][GuildRank:IsNotEqual()?Text( of )][Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild:Angle] i get a blank line when a player has no guild |
03:34.40 | HarveyDent | ok then after an hour its going to be up to 10MB |
03:34.46 | HarveyDent | until I clear garbage |
03:35.04 | Thrae | HarveyDent: If AddonX uses 10MB on load and 11MB after 4 hours, that's fine |
03:35.19 | HarveyDent | I noticed this after I did two things: Installed PitBull and 2) turned FuBar transparent |
03:35.36 | HarveyDent | right but FuBar usually only ever used about 1.25MB |
03:35.44 | HarveyDent | now it's consistently loading in at 3+ |
03:35.52 | HarveyDent | and gets up to 8-10MB after an hour or so |
03:35.53 | Thrae | HarveyDent: It's probably PitBull, turning FuBar transparent wouldn't do anything. Installing PitBull probably updated something FuBar used, or uses FuBar itself. |
03:35.59 | ccKep | pitbull has a small memleak I think, but it's not even near a 700 KiB/s |
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03:36.17 | Thrae | HarveyDent: Your best bet is to disable all your addons and only enable PitBull |
03:36.26 | ccKep | what unit frames are you displaying HarveyDent? |
03:36.37 | Nargiddley | that 700kb isnt rate, its extra since load |
03:36.46 | ccKep | he said rate I think? |
03:36.53 | Thrae | He said rate increasing |
03:36.57 | ccKep | [05:27:59] <HarveyDent> and it's .. whatever rate the increasing rate is alwys a constant +700KiB |
03:37.03 | HarveyDent | I am displaying my playerframe only |
03:37.28 | Nargiddley | then he quoted the numbers off performancefu, which shows extra since load |
03:37.37 | ccKep | performancefu shows both |
03:37.42 | ccKep | since last GC and the increasing rate |
03:37.46 | Thrae | Hmmm yeah him saying "constant +700KiB" doesn't make any sense |
03:37.52 | ccKep | (however, rate not per addon) |
03:38.03 | Thrae | The rate of increase is -never- constant across an entire hour |
03:38.19 | HarveyDent | after I clear garbage it brings it down to 0.3KiB |
03:38.23 | HarveyDent | the increasing rate |
03:38.27 | ccKep | HarveyDent: that +700 KiB, is that the info from the bottom tooltip, or after the addon name (2nd column?) |
03:38.53 | HarveyDent | but then it steadily gets up to 1.83MB |
03:39.04 | HarveyDent | it's in the top |
03:39.05 | Thrae | Maybe PerformanceFu is showing the amount of garbage? |
03:39.07 | ccKep | 1.83mb increasing rate... never ever |
03:39.15 | ccKep | at the top? |
03:39.17 | HarveyDent | yeah |
03:39.21 | ccKep | well.. /me uploads screenshot |
03:39.22 | ccKep | sec. |
03:39.26 | HarveyDent | at the bottom though it's always red when this happens |
03:39.29 | Thrae | I think it's the amount of garbage waiting to be collected |
03:39.41 | HarveyDent | yeah like I start off at 20MB total UI used |
03:39.48 | HarveyDent | then after an hour it's up to nearly 30MB |
03:40.01 | HarveyDent | last night it was 31.8 after a full two hour run in Mech |
03:40.04 | Xinhuan | the number is merely the difference from "current memory used" and the "initial value" |
03:40.06 | ccKep | uploading |
03:40.17 | HarveyDent | when I looked at the top of the list, FuBar had 10.78 MB UI |
03:40.20 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/fubar.jpg |
03:40.22 | Thrae | HarveyDent: PerformanceFu shows the rate of increase as per second...if it was 1MB per second, you'd have a HELL of a lot larger then 30MB!! |
03:40.22 | ccKep | at that example |
03:40.27 | ccKep | where would that +700 be? |
03:40.27 | Xinhuan | it doesn't indicate the amount of memory that can be GCed |
03:40.53 | HarveyDent | at the top there on the right |
03:40.55 | HarveyDent | in your screenshot |
03:41.05 | ccKep | that 47 KIB? |
03:41.05 | HarveyDent | but the rate there at the bottom is red for me sometimes |
03:41.09 | HarveyDent | yeah |
03:41.12 | HarveyDent | except in that column |
03:41.19 | HarveyDent | it says 1.83MB sometimes |
03:41.26 | HarveyDent | then it goes up and up over time |
03:41.32 | Xinhuan | that doesn't matter |
03:41.34 | HarveyDent | also - how is your PitBull using only 800~KB? |
03:41.42 | HarveyDent | mine is using over 2.5 MB |
03:41.49 | Xinhuan | it just shows the amount of stuff the addon is using as non-collectable memory |
03:41.53 | ccKep | you're running with externals |
03:42.01 | HarveyDent | what is externals |
03:42.04 | HarveyDent | I have no idea what that means |
03:42.11 | HarveyDent | addons? |
03:42.25 | Funkeh` | he means you are running with embed libraries |
03:42.27 | ccKep | well, ace2 addons are using shared libraries (the ace-framework) |
03:42.29 | JoshBorke | externals means the entire Ace stack is embedded in each mod |
03:42.36 | Thrae | HarveyDent: PerformanceFu is adding in the cost of the libraries PitBull is using, even though they're shared across multiple addons |
03:42.43 | HarveyDent | can I ... not do that then? |
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03:42.55 | HarveyDent | this happens even if I just use Prat, Pitbull, and FuBar all at once |
03:42.55 | ccKep | well, thats not (too) bad |
03:43.02 | ccKep | that's got nothing to do with memory, only loading time |
03:43.18 | ccKep | every single addon of you has the ace2 framework embed in some subfolder |
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03:43.23 | Thrae | HarveyDent: You can remove that and it'll give you a better picture of how much the addon itself is using. Of course if you don't have any other addons using a library PitBull uses, then you'd just add that number to PitBull. |
03:43.31 | HarveyDent | like when I was setting all this up - those rates or whatever it is, they are always 2.5MB or more with just those addons (Prat, Pitbull, and FuBar) |
03:43.32 | ccKep | and the newest version of it stays in memory |
03:43.43 | HarveyDent | hrm.. |
03:43.56 | Xinhuan | it just means pitbull is your most updated addon |
03:44.03 | ccKep | lets say you have two ace2 addons, one called AddonA, one called AddonB |
03:44.15 | ccKep | you have updated AddonA six month ago |
03:44.20 | ccKep | so it has some old ace2 stuff |
03:44.23 | HarveyDent | ahh ok - so whatever one is the newest, the other addons kick over to and use that library built into pitbull? |
03:44.28 | ccKep | then the ace2 stuff will be loaded from AddonB |
03:44.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
03:44.36 | ccKep | and as such AddonB appears to be using more memory |
03:44.43 | HarveyDent | when it really might not be |
03:44.52 | Xinhuan | because of the same code-base being used, wow doesn't know that |
03:45.00 | HarveyDent | hrm alright |
03:45.05 | ccKep | but you can download Ace2 seperately and tell your mods to run without externals |
03:45.06 | Xinhuan | it can only attribute the ace2 basecode to ONE of the addons you run |
03:45.12 | ccKep | then "Ace2" appears as a single module |
03:45.13 | HarveyDent | how can I remedy this then? The whole thing about me having to clear garbage? |
03:45.22 | Xinhuan | nothing, your memory usage is fine? |
03:45.22 | ccKep | and none of your other ace2 modules are credited for the ace2-memory usage |
03:45.26 | HarveyDent | really - FuBar does get up to 10MB |
03:45.40 | HarveyDent | it just never happened before and it seems odd |
03:45.47 | Nargiddley | HarveyDent, what fubar plugins do you have ? |
03:45.48 | HarveyDent | but if you guys think its ok then I guess it's ok :) |
03:45.50 | Xinhuan | nothing really odd about it |
03:45.53 | HarveyDent | oh boy.. uhm |
03:45.59 | HarveyDent | well hold on |
03:46.01 | Xinhuan | i regularly have addon memory usage go over 100mb |
03:46.15 | Nargiddley | if theres anything that collects combat data, then theres definately nothing to worry about |
03:46.19 | ccKep | I never reach 30 mb Oo |
03:46.33 | HarveyDent | yeah before PitBull and Prat |
03:46.34 | Funkeh` | lol I log in at 16mb |
03:46.37 | HarveyDent | I never went over 22 or 20 |
03:46.41 | Xinhuan | well i run a lot of database type addons, so yah, i do sometimes go over 100 mb |
03:46.41 | Funkeh` | With a massive addons list |
03:46.43 | HarveyDent | I sed to log in at 15 |
03:46.47 | HarveyDent | *Used |
03:46.52 | HarveyDent | now I log in at 20 |
03:46.55 | HarveyDent | and it gets up to 30MB |
03:47.02 | Funkeh` | thats rpetty normal |
03:47.05 | Funkeh` | pretty* |
03:47.13 | ccKep | yeah, I just garbage collect manually at 30 |
03:47.29 | HarveyDent | can I jsut give you guys my addons.txt ? |
03:47.32 | Xinhuan | did you know the WoW default UI uses about 17 mb (or is it 12?) of ram? |
03:47.35 | HarveyDent | is there some place to paste that? |
03:47.49 | Nargiddley | ace.pastey.net |
03:47.49 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net |
03:47.52 | HarveyDent | ok |
03:47.53 | HarveyDent | sec |
03:47.59 | Xinhuan | WoW however hides that fact and you can't find out how much memory wow's internal addons uses anymore |
03:48.27 | Xinhuan | so whatever you see in performancefu doesn't include your default ui |
03:49.23 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Sure you can. Run GCInfo() without any addons and you won't get a 0 result. |
03:49.24 | HarveyDent | ok |
03:49.30 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72090 |
03:49.38 | Bruners | i start at around 60 |
03:49.40 | Xinhuan | ok thrae, but that doesn't give you a breakdown ;p |
03:49.44 | HarveyDent | thats what I have running.. sorry it's a lot of stuff but keep in mind not all of it is for mey guy |
03:49.56 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Oh, right, yeah I think they're still protected there |
03:50.09 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Although most of them are LoD |
03:50.29 | Xinhuan | i dont' think for eg, there's a way to find out how much the AH default UI is using |
03:50.56 | Bruners | why do you have both cartographer and gatherer ? |
03:50.57 | Xinhuan | but it is possible to simply duplicate the entire blizzard UI into your own addon |
03:51.01 | Xinhuan | and measure that :P |
03:51.02 | Thrae | I'll double-check sometime |
03:51.05 | Xinhuan | so haha |
03:51.06 | HarveyDent | I just thought I would bring it you your attention since this just started occurring after I used Pitbull and Prat together |
03:51.12 | HarveyDent | I don't |
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03:51.19 | Funkeh` | just get the addon kit |
03:51.23 | Funkeh` | it has all the separate addons |
03:51.25 | Funkeh` | in lua format |
03:51.26 | HarveyDent | Gatherer isnt even installed anymore |
03:51.30 | Funkeh` | load it up and emasure |
03:51.34 | Xinhuan | the addon kit doesn't tell you actual ingame addon memory usage funkeh |
03:51.38 | Xinhuan | its protected |
03:51.46 | Xinhuan | you can't query information about them |
03:52.15 | Thrae | You can query the total, though |
03:52.19 | ccKep | HarveyDent: occasionally /sws nuke 'ing ? |
03:52.35 | Thrae | The total should always be relatively the same, since it's the default UI and included for everyone |
03:52.37 | HarveyDent | I dont use SWS |
03:52.39 | Xinhuan | only way is to copy the blizz UI and load it as one of your own addons, to be able to measure the real usage, real kb/sec increase, etc |
03:52.45 | ccKep | ah, disabled |
03:52.46 | ccKep | sorry ;) |
03:52.47 | HarveyDent | that IS installed but I haven't used it in ages |
03:53.06 | HarveyDent | @Xinhuan: I will try that this evening |
03:53.33 | ccKep | yeah, running pasting the result of -> find "enabled" addons.txt <- would've made it easier to read ;) |
03:53.57 | ccKep | -running |
03:54.02 | HarveyDent | I guess the bottom line: I was concerned because this occurred only last night after installing Prat and Pitbull. Never before have I ever gotten that high in memory usage so I figured to bring it here but it seems like that might be OK |
03:54.16 | HarveyDent | hold on let me do that |
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03:54.47 | ccKep | well, if it just happened after that you might want to try disabling pitbull, looking at the usage and then doign the same with prat |
03:55.36 | Xinhuan | both addons are pretty bloated imo |
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03:56.09 | Xinhuan | you have to disabled huge portions of either just to get the specific stuff you want |
03:56.39 | ccKep | using pitbull for player, target, targettarget |
03:56.58 | ccKep | switched from aguf, I really like the healing estimator |
03:57.58 | ccKep | if it detects the rank I'm casting I would be even happier =) |
03:58.13 | HarveyDent | well I like Pitbull it does what I need but I do have an issue with prat though |
03:58.27 | ccKep | never used prat.. /shrug |
03:58.49 | HarveyDent | Ok |
03:58.55 | HarveyDent | here you go |
03:58.56 | Xinhuan | if you think an addon tries to do too much, try to find an addon that does less |
03:58.56 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72091 |
03:59.20 | HarveyDent | Prat is fine actually I am just having an issue right now with zoning |
03:59.37 | HarveyDent | I asked in wowi-lounge but cladhaire said he was going to be gone for a bit and couldn't help me atm |
03:59.41 | HarveyDent | said I should try here |
03:59.49 | Bruners | are you using Fubar AND titan ? |
03:59.54 | HarveyDent | no |
03:59.59 | HarveyDent | look at the newer one |
04:00.02 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72091 |
04:00.05 | Bruners | i am |
04:00.10 | HarveyDent | I got rid of a lot of those a while ago |
04:00.34 | HarveyDent | huh.. thats weird |
04:00.42 | HarveyDent | those addons aren't even in my addon folder anymore |
04:00.58 | HarveyDent | could that cause any problems? |
04:01.11 | Funkeh` | no |
04:01.31 | HarveyDent | don't ignore any other conflicts like that though |
04:01.39 | HarveyDent | I can answer any question you might have about my addons |
04:01.40 | Funkeh` | addons.txt keeps a list of addons you used, even if you deleted them |
04:01.43 | HarveyDent | (you know..) |
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04:02.26 | Funkeh` | you are probably better off jsut going to your addons folder, sorting it in a list format, and screenshotting it |
04:02.42 | HarveyDent | lol ok |
04:02.44 | HarveyDent | one sec |
04:02.57 | Funkeh` | are you using WowAceUpdater by the way? |
04:03.01 | HarveyDent | sorry this is such a weird issue - I don't know if it will help but thanks for taking an interest |
04:03.04 | HarveyDent | yes |
04:03.12 | HarveyDent | I'm on a Mac but yes |
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04:05.48 | HarveyDent | ok how about I paste an updated version of what I know I have enabled? heh |
04:05.58 | HarveyDent | too many addons in the folder to take a screenshot of on the mac. |
04:07.04 | Funkeh` | http://ace.pastey.net/72091 scroll down to the edit box |
04:07.09 | Funkeh` | It states paste a follow up |
04:08.18 | HarveyDent | oh.. sorry |
04:08.22 | HarveyDent | just made a new one |
04:08.23 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72094 |
04:08.33 | HarveyDent | I'll do that in the future though from now on |
04:08.48 | HarveyDent | that is my latest list, everything I have enabled, and the only stuff for my character - nothing old, etc. |
04:10.31 | Funkeh` | I don't really see anything wrong wiht that |
04:10.46 | Funkeh` | Although you could save some memory growth by replaing dbm |
04:11.41 | HarveyDent | really? |
04:11.53 | HarveyDent | tbh I hardly ever use it except in SSC and Kara |
04:12.13 | HarveyDent | it doesn't... turn on... (?) until I go into those places - do you mean just in general when it IS on? |
04:12.45 | Funkeh` | DBM's core loads a lot of shit even when off |
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04:13.17 | Xinhuan | i would suggest you dont' worry about memory usage of addons and just play the game ;p |
04:13.28 | Xinhuan | unless your computer only has 512 mb ram |
04:13.37 | durcyn | if something's not eating memory, chances are it's eating something else instead |
04:13.41 | durcyn | roll with it |
04:14.49 | Xinhuan | just because an addon uses 10 mb extra memory doesn't mean its bad. it just means it could have been done better, but there's no real hurt done |
04:15.18 | Funkeh` | If the addons is using 10mb of memory a second it is bad no matter how much memory you have |
04:15.39 | Xinhuan | that's extreme |
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04:15.51 | Xinhuan | i just meant flat memory usage, not the rate of increase |
04:15.54 | Funkeh` | It was an example that we are discussing growth not total usage |
04:16.33 | Xinhuan | even if the rate of increase is big, unless it actually impacts actual gameplay, it wouldn't really matter |
04:16.56 | Funkeh` | Any kind of big growth rate will impact your system |
04:17.12 | Xinhuan | the question is whether that impact is noticable or not |
04:17.26 | Funkeh` | Well, usually it is in loss of frames per second |
04:17.41 | Xinhuan | if my FPS dropped from 60 to 59, i coudlnt' care less |
04:18.01 | Xinhuan | if it dropped from 15 to 12, then i would care more about it |
04:18.08 | Funkeh` | I could, I paid for my graphics card, addons should be drowning that |
04:18.24 | Xinhuan | the game shipped without addons |
04:18.47 | Funkeh` | Im talking about addons in particular not vanilla wow |
04:18.54 | Comx | any know why i get a blank line when i player has no guild [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild:Angle] |
04:19.40 | Xinhuan | i'm just saying in general, its abnormal to worry about memory usage unless it impacts gameplay |
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04:19.46 | Xinhuan | maybe you don't agree with that |
04:19.59 | Funkeh` | I don't give a shit about memory usage |
04:20.02 | Funkeh` | I never said I did |
04:20.08 | Funkeh` | We were talking about memory growth |
04:20.26 | Xinhuan | i never mentioned memory growth until you brought it up |
04:20.50 | Xinhuan | all i said was, if an addon used an extra 10 mb ram, it doesn't mean its bad. |
04:20.51 | Funkeh` | Brought it up? The whole discussin with HarveyDent was based on it, you changed that discussion |
04:21.58 | HarveyDent | well the reason I brought it up anyhow is not so much that I care (Sort of) |
04:22.08 | HarveyDent | I just thought maybe it wasn't the intent of the author to have it use that much |
04:22.16 | HarveyDent | (since I have never seen it use that much in the past) |
04:22.32 | Funkeh` | But it isn't really using that much, its jsut all the libraries that are using that much |
04:22.52 | HarveyDent | thought it might be something to report but apparently it's ok. I mean the impact on my game isnt much but I figured the purpose of even making all these addons in the way in which they;ve been made (Ace, eetc.) was to cut the fat, etc. |
04:22.53 | Funkeh` | So at the end of the day it is pretty normal |
04:22.59 | HarveyDent | yeah |
04:23.15 | HarveyDent | thats the vibe I am getting - which I appreciate everyone taking the time to discuss |
04:23.25 | HarveyDent | I never knew that's how it worked. |
04:23.38 | Xinhuan | ace in itself has a lot of bloat most addons don't use - but they dont matter much if you have a lot of addons that use ace as a whole |
04:23.55 | HarveyDent | I do have another topic however - which I AM hoping it can be answered |
04:23.57 | Funkeh` | You have to remember these libraries are shared, so you divide the use by the addons you have, it looks a lot better |
04:24.06 | HarveyDent | yeah Dan Gilbert was talking about this |
04:24.10 | HarveyDent | if you have 10 addons |
04:24.19 | HarveyDent | and all of them but one is Lua |
04:24.24 | HarveyDent | and only one is Ace |
04:24.36 | HarveyDent | you might actually end up using more UI memory if you have just one Ace addon |
04:24.40 | HarveyDent | as opposed to 10 |
04:24.43 | Funkeh` | Indeed |
04:25.06 | HarveyDent | however, it becomes "relative" once you have the other 9 addons using Ace because now, those all take up nominal resources |
04:25.11 | Funkeh` | Ace is aimed at sharing, the more you share it the better |
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04:25.30 | HarveyDent | so it makes sense I just thought maybe you guys might think it might be an issue for FuBar since it was getting a bit high but I realize now it might not be a big deal |
04:25.41 | Funkeh` | Thats why people tend to have complete Ace UI's to take the most advantage of it |
04:25.49 | HarveyDent | thats why I switched tbh |
04:25.53 | HarveyDent | you saw my addons list |
04:25.56 | ckknight | also, things are typically easier if it's all ace |
04:25.59 | ckknight | for upgrading, etc. |
04:25.59 | HarveyDent | (the very first one) |
04:26.05 | HarveyDent | I agree ckknight |
04:26.07 | ckknight | but all in all, there are some very good non-ace addons |
04:26.11 | Funkeh` | Although, thats not an excuse to switch to crap mods, I have seen people switching from efficient non-ace mods to un-efficint ace mods |
04:26.12 | ckknight | Lightheaded, for example |
04:26.16 | HarveyDent | yeah |
04:26.19 | HarveyDent | and bankitems |
04:26.19 | ckknight | Auctioneer, as another example |
04:26.22 | ckknight | I use both. |
04:26.23 | Xinhuan | you should use addons because of their usefulness and functionaility - not because whether they are ace |
04:26.47 | Xinhuan | talking about bankitems, i should be updating it ~_~ |
04:26.48 | HarveyDent | I did do that initialy |
04:27.05 | HarveyDent | some have survived the chopping block |
04:27.06 | ckknight | I need to work on AceConfig |
04:27.08 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: works great :> |
04:27.08 | ckknight | bah |
04:27.13 | HarveyDent | ok wait before you guys go lol |
04:27.19 | Xinhuan | some users are asking for a search feature |
04:27.20 | HarveyDent | I REALLY am hoping this can be answered |
04:27.22 | Xinhuan | to locate items on their 50 alts |
04:27.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight: have you talked with kaelten abotu joker yet? |
04:27.35 | Xinhuan | i havent bothered just yet to code in something like that |
04:27.39 | ckknight | Funkeh`: of course I have |
04:27.52 | HarveyDent | ok I'll ask :) I just hope it gets a response |
04:27.54 | HarveyDent | so here goes.. |
04:27.54 | Diao | bankitems has been updated? |
04:28.02 | Diao | o: |
04:28.07 | ckknight | Funkeh`: basically, once split svns come into play, Joker will be renamed Ace3 and have its own SVN |
04:28.11 | Xinhuan | i've been updating it since last year |
04:28.23 | HarveyDent | I use Prat and I have my chat tabs hidden. Someone on the WoW forums had a picture of their UI and I asked them how they got it to look that way and they told me. |
04:28.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: sounds cool |
04:28.38 | Funkeh` | ckknight: would be nice to get a joker branch up though |
04:28.43 | ckknight | it is up... |
04:28.51 | HarveyDent | However, when I asked bout the missing chat tabs, they showed me a macro to use that would act like clicking the chat tabs but without the chat tabs |
04:28.52 | Funkeh` | ckknight: I mean, for joker addons |
04:28.55 | ckknight | oh |
04:28.56 | Diao | sanity won't show how many of an item i have :( |
04:29.16 | ckknight | once JokerConfig is done, that can be discussed |
04:29.17 | HarveyDent | Basically it's /script ChatFrame1:Show() followed by several /script ChatFrame#:Hide() |
04:29.24 | ckknight | it's the final building block |
04:29.27 | HarveyDent | they work just fine, since I have several chat tabs |
04:29.31 | Funkeh` | cool |
04:29.33 | HarveyDent | problem is though... |
04:29.47 | HarveyDent | whenever I am running around places, the sub-zone will change (not the zone) |
04:29.54 | HarveyDent | and it will flip me back to General chat |
04:30.11 | HarveyDent | so I'm like... wtf... so I click on the macro to go back to guild chat or what have you.. |
04:30.16 | Funkeh` | time flies, better head off |
04:30.19 | Funkeh` | later |
04:30.24 | HarveyDent | and I zone again or change areas, whatever, it goes right back to general chat |
04:30.33 | HarveyDent | Anyone have any idea what I can do to stop that? |
04:30.42 | HarveyDent | (aside from using chat tabs again) |
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04:31.33 | HarveyDent | damn... now everyone is gone. |
04:31.50 | ckknight | true |
04:32.14 | HarveyDent | ck any ideas? |
04:32.24 | ckknight | what you're doing is crazy. |
04:32.33 | ckknight | and quite uncouth |
04:32.40 | Xinhuan | sigh isn't it annoying to have to decide to go back an update an older addon you wrote, vs writing a new one :( |
04:33.21 | HarveyDent | haha, well I didn't know any other way to do it since that's what I was able to come up with after asking this person and trying it out |
04:33.40 | ccKep | are your chat windows docked together? |
04:33.41 | HarveyDent | If you can come up with a better way I'm all for it - I really love how PitBull and Prat and everything look together |
04:33.53 | HarveyDent | well... you mean in the default blizzard UI? |
04:33.58 | HarveyDent | if so then yes |
04:34.12 | HarveyDent | I don't have them all over the place. They all appeared on tabs on the default chat UI |
04:36.15 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72097 |
04:36.19 | HarveyDent | thats what it looks like |
04:36.23 | HarveyDent | one button |
04:36.40 | HarveyDent | cladhaire said something about maybe needing to unregister an event |
04:36.41 | Diao | what's chatframe3 |
04:36.53 | HarveyDent | ChatFrame3 I think in that case is my "Guild only" chat |
04:37.12 | HarveyDent | it's basically only guild chat and nothing else. everything else filtered out |
04:37.29 | Diao | why don't you |
04:37.33 | Diao | just turn off everything except guild chat |
04:37.35 | Diao | in your normal frame? |
04:37.38 | HarveyDent | using the default UI, that was just a single tab called "guild chat" |
04:37.46 | HarveyDent | I do, thats what I did |
04:37.57 | Diao | o_O |
04:38.06 | HarveyDent | this is to show that chatframe |
04:38.07 | Diao | wait what |
04:38.10 | Diao | no |
04:38.13 | Diao | i mean in your general frame |
04:38.18 | HarveyDent | oh |
04:38.21 | Diao | just filter out everything except guild |
04:38.26 | HarveyDent | because I would like to see whispers, etc. |
04:38.32 | HarveyDent | I have chat tabs hidden in prat |
04:38.35 | Diao | er |
04:38.45 | Diao | now i'm lost :P |
04:38.50 | HarveyDent | lol ok |
04:38.52 | HarveyDent | basicaly... |
04:39.02 | HarveyDent | when I load up the game in the default blizzard ui |
04:39.06 | HarveyDent | I have six tabs |
04:39.13 | Diao | ok |
04:39.14 | HarveyDent | General, Trade, Guild, Party, Whisper, and GPW |
04:39.20 | HarveyDent | GPW is Guild + Party + Whisper |
04:39.31 | Diao | uh huh |
04:39.36 | ccKep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=330713563&sid=1 |
04:39.39 | HarveyDent | so obviously each of those is just everything filtered except their title.. |
04:39.45 | ccKep | Channel Info APIs |
04:39.45 | ccKep | NEW - ExpandChannelHeader(chanId); |
04:39.45 | ccKep | NEW - CollapseChannelHeader(chanId) |
04:39.49 | ccKep | coming in 2.2 ;) |
04:40.03 | ccKep | so, 2.2 should fix your problem I think |
04:40.17 | Diao | ok |
04:40.27 | Diao | and you want your normal chat to just be whatever you last set it at? |
04:40.33 | HarveyDent | So normally, I would just clck on the tab to see my chattab etc. However , since using Prat... I have hidden the tabs and am trying to figure a way to replicate clicking on a chat tab |
04:40.37 | HarveyDent | without... clicking on a chat tab |
04:40.39 | Arrowmaster | that api is for the new chat tab in the social frame |
04:40.42 | HarveyDent | I was told to use http://ace.pastey.net/72097 |
04:41.03 | HarveyDent | that works GREAT. it's exactly what I want |
04:41.06 | HarveyDent | but.. |
04:41.24 | HarveyDent | whenever I am walking around.. I don't know.. Stormwind.. and I go from trade to mage quarter or whatever |
04:41.38 | HarveyDent | it keeps flipping me BACK to general |
04:41.52 | HarveyDent | like as if me performing http://ace.pastey.net/72097 was temporary |
04:42.08 | Diao | probably because it's autoswitching whenever it receives a chat update |
04:42.16 | HarveyDent | I was told it might be related to changing zones/sub-zones and to ask here since cladhaire was going away in wowi-lounge |
04:42.23 | Arrowmaster | its not auto switching, more like auto showing |
04:42.25 | HarveyDent | actually, that isn't the case I found out |
04:42.33 | HarveyDent | so long as I don't move |
04:42.40 | HarveyDent | (which means, don't zone/sub-zone) |
04:42.49 | HarveyDent | I can view the frame all day jsut as I want |
04:42.58 | HarveyDent | but once I zone/sub-zone ... it switches to general chat. |
04:43.08 | HarveyDent | Basically picture flying over Netherstorm... |
04:43.20 | Arrowmaster | HarveyDent: are all of your chat frames in the same location? |
04:43.21 | HarveyDent | one big zone, one massive area to stay in the same general chat channel ( /1) |
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04:43.29 | Diao | oh |
04:43.32 | Diao | i don't know then |
04:43.34 | Diao | i just use minichat |
04:43.44 | HarveyDent | I don't know arrowmaster |
04:43.51 | HarveyDent | you mean like... |
04:43.58 | HarveyDent | well yes I get what you mean I think |
04:44.10 | HarveyDent | they were all, by default (blizz UI) attached to the same frame |
04:44.12 | HarveyDent | just different tabs |
04:44.13 | Diao | they're docked |
04:44.16 | HarveyDent | yeah |
04:44.22 | HarveyDent | not separate on the screen |
04:44.30 | HarveyDent | all I did with prat was rescale the chat UI |
04:44.41 | HarveyDent | and hide tabs |
04:44.52 | HarveyDent | ...and change font.. heh. alot of stuff actually but yeah. And "TheLowDown" is off |
04:44.59 | HarveyDent | and simple chat is off |
04:45.16 | HarveyDent | and "Force first chat frame on login" is on in Prat |
04:45.21 | HarveyDent | turning that off changes nothing |
04:45.35 | HarveyDent | (in my case with this issue that is) |
04:45.45 | Arrowmaster | heres an idea, show all the chatframes like normal, group them all together so that theyre all tabs on one frame |
04:45.58 | Arrowmaster | then theres an option in interface options to lock chat settings i think |
04:46.15 | Arrowmaster | you wont be able to switch the tabs then because they wont show on mouseover |
04:46.41 | Arrowmaster | then change your macros to /script FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame1) and /FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame2) and so on |
04:46.51 | HarveyDent | oh goodness |
04:46.55 | HarveyDent | wow wait |
04:46.58 | Arrowmaster | which should let you switch the tabs |
04:47.08 | HarveyDent | so that script is actually tab switching in code? (script) |
04:47.14 | Arrowmaster | yes |
04:47.22 | HarveyDent | like thats "what happens" in the background wen I click on the tabs? |
04:47.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
04:47.33 | HarveyDent | THAT is exactly what I've been looking for the whole ime |
04:47.38 | Arrowmaster | i copied that from prats "Force first chat frame on login" |
04:47.41 | HarveyDent | those scripts were just what I could come up with |
04:47.59 | HarveyDent | ok let me address whay you typed |
04:48.14 | HarveyDent | first: my tabs were always "docked" so thats taken care. good there |
04:48.21 | HarveyDent | second, is "locking" neccessary? |
04:48.41 | Arrowmaster | im perty sure theres still something in interface options that locks the chat settings and makes it so you cant get the tabs to show on mouseover |
04:48.41 | HarveyDent | I did try that before coming here and it didnt change anyhin |
04:48.45 | HarveyDent | yeah thereis |
04:48.48 | HarveyDent | it's... |
04:48.56 | HarveyDent | well lol |
04:49.01 | HarveyDent | it's "Lock Chat Settings" |
04:49.04 | Arrowmaster | the locked on the individual chat frames just keeps you from moving them |
04:49.05 | HarveyDent | which btw, is ticked |
04:49.12 | vithos | if you have the frames locked, you can't move them. you can however override the tab show/hide behavior with prat |
04:49.17 | Arrowmaster | do the tabs show up with that option on? |
04:49.26 | HarveyDent | well no because I have them hidden via Prat anyhow |
04:49.32 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
04:49.33 | HarveyDent | which is what I'd like to contnue doing |
04:49.50 | HarveyDent | so basically.. let me try that script right quick |
04:49.54 | HarveyDent | see if it does what I need it to do |
04:50.00 | Arrowmaster | well there you go just use /script FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame1) |
04:50.06 | HarveyDent | hah |
04:50.11 | HarveyDent | ok hold on :) |
04:50.30 | ccKep | !api SetChatWindowShown |
04:50.30 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetChatWindowShown |
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04:50.44 | ccKep | why the fuck does that function exist if it doesn't even work (atleast for me) |
04:50.50 | Arrowmaster | !api FCF_SelectDockFrame |
04:50.51 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FCF_SelectDockFrame |
04:51.04 | Diao | i think |
04:51.07 | Diao | that's a prat function |
04:51.09 | Diao | lol |
04:51.18 | HarveyDent | I love you |
04:51.32 | HarveyDent | that works and in one line! :) |
04:51.51 | ccKep | which one Diao? |
04:51.57 | HarveyDent | and it doesnt change me to general when I walk say... out of the inn and into the scryer's tier |
04:51.59 | HarveyDent | WOOT! |
04:52.06 | HarveyDent | Thank you arrowmaster |
04:52.09 | Arrowmaster | np |
04:52.12 | Diao | fcf one |
04:52.24 | HarveyDent | yeah diao |
04:52.27 | Arrowmaster | the FCF functions are all from default UI i think |
04:52.29 | HarveyDent | arrow said he found that in prat's thing |
04:52.35 | HarveyDent | but I have a feeling that |
04:52.39 | HarveyDent | yeah what arrow said |
04:52.42 | Diao | er |
04:52.49 | Diao | i mean it probably repackages a default ui api |
04:52.59 | Arrowmaster | just calls it |
04:53.04 | HarveyDent | so arrowmaster: using that command - any conflicts you can think of? |
04:53.09 | HarveyDent | issues I'd run into? |
04:53.15 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt run into any |
04:53.27 | Arrowmaster | since its just the code for switching chat tabs |
04:53.27 | HarveyDent | ok now the ultimate question |
04:53.41 | HarveyDent | is there a way to mke a macro button flash like the chat tabs flash |
04:53.48 | HarveyDent | like a... OnEvent do this |
04:53.52 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
04:53.57 | Diao | o_O |
04:54.10 | HarveyDent | heh figured as much but thought it might be worth a try |
04:54.13 | Diao | omnicc does some kind of flash |
04:54.16 | Diao | when cooldowns are ready |
04:54.26 | HarveyDent | would be sweet to get the button to flash if I got a new message in one of those chatframes |
04:54.41 | Arrowmaster | i'm guessing youd really like some kinda way to customize the look of the chat tabs and move them seperately from the chatframe |
04:54.56 | HarveyDent | YES! Ideally thats what I thought Prat would have done in the first place |
04:55.09 | HarveyDent | I was told however, that it isn't possible |
04:55.09 | HarveyDent | something like that it's blocked or.. |
04:55.16 | HarveyDent | you cant move those tabs seperately themselves |
04:55.30 | Arrowmaster | probably something to do with how the default ui functions are |
04:55.42 | HarveyDent | that was my initialy intent was to move the chat tabs |
04:55.49 | Arrowmaster | could make a mod to create new ones and keep the old ones hidden |
04:55.51 | HarveyDent | I, tbh, like ow this works much better but |
04:56.08 | HarveyDent | mayabe a plugin for prat? |
04:56.18 | HarveyDent | like.. something that might sort of blend into the chatframe? |
04:56.31 | HarveyDent | sort of how they did the whole "scroll down" Button that flashes at you inside the frame |
04:57.26 | HarveyDent | I was honestly surprised that that functionality wasn't in there by default. Especially considering you can alter everything under the sun when it comes o chat frames |
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05:07.16 | ccKep | /script BT3Button#.class:StartFlash() starts button flashing... but that doesn't help you much ;) |
05:09.51 | HarveyDent | heh |
05:10.03 | HarveyDent | maybei f it's tied to OnEvent ? |
05:10.50 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net/72100 << just a quick copy&paste + adjustment of www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1.. dunno if that works/helps |
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05:12.40 | HarveyDent | like: if (OnEvent:message_received) then (/script BT3Button#:class:StartFlash()) also (OnEvent:click_BT3()) then (/script button_flash STOP,etc.) else (don't flash bla bla bla) |
05:13.06 | HarveyDent | damn it looks like I'd need an actual addon to do this |
05:13.14 | HarveyDent | not simply something to toss into the macro |
05:13.33 | HarveyDent | (based on what you pasted, ccKep) |
05:14.17 | ccKep | yep |
05:14.29 | HarveyDent | OT: is there any program (perhaps even shipped with/built-into) OSX that is the equivalent of MS Paint? |
05:14.36 | ccKep | atleast if you don't want to push another macro button after every loading screen |
05:15.42 | HarveyDent | well, Idealy, I'd love to see something like... tiny buttons that, when shown, look like a mini actionbar so to speak, that could be docked to either the top, bottom, left, or right of the chatframe, via Prat |
05:15.46 | HarveyDent | or detached and draged |
05:16.06 | ccKep | not using prat |
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05:16.09 | HarveyDent | I'd put those buttons on the left side of my chatframe via Prat and be done with it |
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05:17.23 | HarveyDent | yeah it's minor |
05:17.36 | HarveyDent | but man, it took a while to get something figured out about this lol |
05:17.45 | HarveyDent | thanks to you guys though it's all taken care of |
05:20.01 | kergoth | meh, i like my scorpid named george. he's nifty.. but a pain in the butt to work with since claw will prevent him from keeping the poisoin up unless my crit is high enough :\ |
05:21.22 | vithos | i'd turn off claw for bosses i think |
05:21.39 | vithos | it's still higher dps than any other pet with just the poison |
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05:22.36 | kergoth | yea, true |
05:23.29 | vithos | but i'm going to level a windserpent for the flexibility |
05:24.04 | vithos | sometimes you just have to pull your pet off or it's going to die |
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05:25.30 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46323 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/ (. Baggins_AnywhereBags.toc Core.lua embeds.xml lib/): Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Initial commit. Stores alts' banks, bags, mail, and equipment for viewing anywhere. |
05:25.44 | vithos | NICE |
05:25.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, interesting |
05:25.56 | Mecdemort | ;p |
05:27.15 | vithos | Mecdemort: is it functional at all yet, or just laying the foundation? |
05:27.48 | Mecdemort | It's functional in that you can view items in Baggins' submenu, still working on creating frames so they look like regular bags |
05:28.09 | vithos | oh, kk. cool :D |
05:28.35 | Mecdemort | And it's got a couple sort types so far. I'm in the market for features to add |
05:28.54 | vithos | search ! |
05:29.37 | Mecdemort | probably wouldnt be too hard |
05:29.47 | HarveyDent | ckknight: is there any option in Pitbull to make it so that the name of a mob will be truncated if it's longer than a certain number of characters? |
05:30.01 | HarveyDent | right now, the name of mobs will overlap the mob's portrait |
05:31.29 | ckknight | yes, use :Trunc(num) |
05:32.00 | HarveyDent | where do I put that? In the name field for text? |
05:32.09 | HarveyDent | under the "TEXT" option, that is |
05:32.15 | Mecdemort | hmm I need to make wiki pages for all my addons... |
05:34.03 | HarveyDent | ok. How about a way to drop it to the next line if it exceeds a number of characters? |
05:34.19 | kergoth | vithos, hmm, wind serpent might be a better way to go indeed... but i /like/ george, unlike most hunters using scorps :) |
05:35.25 | kergoth | hmmm |
05:35.28 | vithos | WS's have some problems too i've read. they walk backwards before casting LB or something |
05:35.39 | vithos | but i've never had one |
05:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/72102 I am an evil genius. |
05:37.01 | HarveyDent | hrm ok. more importantly: When I use Pitbull on my alt, underneath Global Settings > StatusBar Texture there is only "Blizzard" and "Clio" |
05:37.09 | Diao | wtf does blind do |
05:37.14 | HarveyDent | however, on my main, there are at least 10 |
05:37.40 | vithos | <3 AutoHotkey. but what's that do? just jump forward? |
05:37.46 | Diao | looks like it |
05:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao: |
05:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | When {Blind} is the first item in the string, the program avoids releasing Alt/Control/Shift/Win if they started out in the down position. For example, the hotkey +s::Send {Blind}abc would send ABC rather than abc because the user is holding down the Shift key. |
05:38.42 | HarveyDent | and,,, lol |
05:38.55 | HarveyDent | then/ |
05:39.23 | Arrowmaster | HarveyDent: install the addon SharedMedia |
05:40.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:37] <vithos> <3 AutoHotkey. but what's that do? just jump forward? <--jump far forward with F7, jump short forward with ctrl + F7. |
05:40.47 | Mecdemort | In an AceOptions table, will get default to false if I dont define it? |
05:41.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and do so perfectly, everytime, even out of the stand. |
05:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't see the use for that, don't ask why i created it. :P |
05:42.35 | Diao | stand? |
05:42.43 | sag_ich_nicht | as in, when you stand still. |
05:42.59 | sag_ich_nicht | without moving you before the jump at all |
05:43.11 | sylvanaar | HarveyDent have you seen chatbar? |
05:43.28 | HarveyDent | I used that quite a while ago. I was not happy with it |
05:43.32 | Diao | oh |
05:43.41 | HarveyDent | you do Prat though right? |
05:44.01 | sylvanaar | sometimes |
05:44.04 | HarveyDent | heh |
05:44.21 | HarveyDent | well, arrowmaster found in your code that whole fcf thing for toggling chatframes |
05:44.27 | HarveyDent | which apparently comes from the default UI |
05:44.53 | HarveyDent | so what I did was make a very small, scaled down, new actiobar via bt3 and just made macros for each chatframe and put the buttons on the hotbar |
05:45.08 | HarveyDent | I've made it vertial and put it on the left of the chatframe (Prat) |
05:45.21 | HarveyDent | I gotta say though, that sort of functionality built in would be sweet |
05:45.52 | HarveyDent | I do this because the chat tabs are hidden via Prat. but I utilize multiple chatframes |
05:46.37 | sylvanaar | write a prat module for it, its pretty easy - theres a template in the extras folder you just do a find/replace |
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05:47.19 | HarveyDent | what would I be finding/replacing? heh |
05:47.24 | HarveyDent | just the script? |
05:47.38 | sylvanaar | the name and stuff |
05:47.49 | HarveyDent | ideally, there would be a bar that could be docked to the chat frame top, left, bottom, or right (or undocked altogether) |
05:48.01 | sylvanaar | right, thats more complicated |
05:48.04 | HarveyDent | the name and.. I'm soryr I'm a bit lost heh |
05:48.23 | HarveyDent | let me find that template first to se what you'r talking about |
05:49.45 | Mecdemort | i wish there was a better way to search through a nested table than a million for loops |
05:50.01 | HarveyDent | ok yeah looking at that presets.lua file is giving me a headache lol |
05:50.04 | HarveyDent | godbless programmers |
05:50.24 | sylvanaar | its just people's saved variables pasted in |
05:50.36 | HarveyDent | I wouldn't even know where to begin. because in my mind, I'd just delete all that stuff and be like ... /script FCF_lablabla |
05:50.51 | HarveyDent | oh I see |
05:51.05 | HarveyDent | and what would that achieve for me? |
05:51.10 | HarveyDent | (really, asking) |
05:51.20 | sylvanaar | presets? |
05:51.34 | HarveyDent | well yeah mean,.. I think you mean I could make my own.. "option" ? |
05:51.36 | sylvanaar | i was suggesting looking at blank_module.lua |
05:51.40 | HarveyDent | oh |
05:51.46 | HarveyDent | thats not in the extras folder then under Prat |
05:51.54 | HarveyDent | there's just "Presets.lua" |
05:52.02 | sylvanaar | you sure |
05:52.14 | HarveyDent | ah ok |
05:52.20 | HarveyDent | root prat > extras |
05:52.26 | HarveyDent | went to Prat_modules then extras |
05:52.55 | HarveyDent | so ok I see what you mean now.. this then WOULD make some sort of module show up in the options list on right click on Prat |
05:53.00 | HarveyDent | ok cool but |
05:53.18 | HarveyDent | you're suggesting I paste in the /script from above to do the whole channel flipping thing - but ... |
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05:53.31 | HarveyDent | how would I .. "see" that? as in, an interface |
05:53.45 | HarveyDent | just keep opening the prat right click options menu? |
05:55.08 | HarveyDent | sorry if I seem a bit daft I just don't follow, honestly :) |
05:56.27 | sylvanaar | well, there is sample code in the comments |
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05:58.24 | Mecdemort | does lua have the ability to make macros? |
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06:01.04 | HarveyDent | well I will take a look at it :) |
06:01.09 | HarveyDent | Thanks sylvanaar |
06:01.41 | sylvanaar | sure |
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06:07.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ...bad numblock, don't do that. |
06:08.40 | Mecdemort | is string.find case sensitive? |
06:13.29 | HarveyDent | oh yeah |
06:13.33 | HarveyDent | uhm.. |
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06:14.04 | HarveyDent | Arrowmaster |
06:14.39 | HarveyDent | How would it be possible for Pitbull to be installed in my addons folder and then, one one character on the same account, not have access to different bar styles |
06:14.45 | HarveyDent | but on the other, have more bar styles? |
06:14.56 | HarveyDent | this is the case and I think you suggested to install SharedMedia but.. |
06:14.57 | Antiarc | SharedMedia |
06:15.04 | HarveyDent | if those come from SharedMedi and I have them on my main |
06:15.14 | Antiarc | Is SharedMedia enabled for the alt? |
06:15.15 | HarveyDent | wouldn't that mean my alt has them too? |
06:15.29 | HarveyDent | I thnk so.. I didnt realize it was something to "enable" |
06:15.33 | HarveyDent | thought it was built in |
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06:15.34 | Antiarc | It's just another addon |
06:15.38 | Antiarc | So you need to make sure it's turned on |
06:15.40 | HarveyDent | yeah I didn't download that |
06:15.45 | HarveyDent | (I don't think) |
06:15.48 | HarveyDent | let me check |
06:15.49 | WALoeIII | So I realize this isn't a help channel, but I figure a bunch of people in here probably already use Pitbull |
06:16.00 | WALoeIII | is it possible to get a numerical value for health on party/raid frames? |
06:16.06 | HarveyDent | yes |
06:16.10 | Antiarc | Sure |
06:16.12 | WALoeIII | and could this be an issue with mobhealth/info? |
06:16.22 | HarveyDent | check under uhm.. All Units |
06:16.26 | HarveyDent | then go to "Texts" |
06:16.34 | HarveyDent | then go to health and power respectively |
06:16.39 | WALoeIII | correct |
06:16.41 | HarveyDent | make sure they are enabled for each |
06:16.44 | WALoeIII | I have tried all the options |
06:16.50 | HarveyDent | did you try each one then? |
06:16.55 | WALoeIII | and I see Cur/Max for mana/rage/energ |
06:16.59 | HarveyDent | like Player and Target? |
06:17.00 | WALoeIII | but it never works for HP |
06:17.04 | HarveyDent | hrm |
06:17.10 | WALoeIII | player and target work |
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06:17.17 | CIA-14 | Numen: |
06:17.17 | CIA-14 | - Add locale koKR |
06:17.19 | WALoeIII | but part/raid all I can get is defecit HP |
06:17.21 | HarveyDent | ah I see |
06:17.28 | HarveyDent | let me look at the option |
06:17.35 | HarveyDent | it works for e |
06:17.38 | WALoeIII | I want to use the "Informative" style |
06:17.47 | WALoeIII | I'm gong to try disabling MobHealth, it might be a conflict with that |
06:18.13 | HarveyDent | thzat would be a start yeah |
06:18.21 | HarveyDent | Ok Arrowmaster |
06:18.24 | HarveyDent | (and others) |
06:18.29 | HarveyDent | I don't have SharedMedia installed |
06:18.38 | HarveyDent | but I can still see the bar styles in Pitbull on my main |
06:18.59 | Arrowmaster | other addons add textures too |
06:19.03 | HarveyDent | Is it possible another addon I am using is enabled on my main that isn't on my alt and... somehow Pitbull is seeing that library there? |
06:19.12 | Arrowmaster | but shared media should have most of them |
06:19.23 | sylvanaar | if you use embedded libraries yeah |
06:19.25 | HarveyDent | yeah I have Omen on my main but not on my alt |
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06:19.27 | CIA-14 | MorgBid: |
06:19.27 | CIA-14 | - Fixed bidwar mode so bids will not get confused anymore with multiitem auctions |
06:19.48 | Xinhuan | hmm WAU didn't install Special-Auras and metrognome automatically :( |
06:19.50 | Xinhuan | (for parrot) |
06:20.01 | HarveyDent | it's because it uses embeds.xml |
06:20.02 | HarveyDent | or.. |
06:20.04 | HarveyDent | wait |
06:20.15 | Xinhuan | the embeds.xml didn't list them i think |
06:20.30 | HarveyDent | no but there is a file that does though |
06:20.39 | HarveyDent | something about.. Daveish on AtlasLoot talked about it |
06:20.40 | Arrowmaster | all addons that use sharedmedialib are allowed to register textures included with them in sharedmedialib, but theres also sharedmedia which is just a dummy addon to register a bunch of textures with sharedmedialib |
06:20.59 | HarveyDent | he had to change how AtlasLoot "worked" via WAU because MacAceUpdater doesn't recognize a file |
06:21.03 | HarveyDent | like... filelist |
06:21.05 | HarveyDent | or something |
06:21.05 | CIA-14 | 03morgalm * r46326 10MorgDKP/ (8 files): |
06:21.05 | CIA-14 | MorgDKP: |
06:21.05 | CIA-14 | - Fixed bidwar mode to record maxbids properly |
06:21.05 | CIA-14 | - code touchup |
06:21.27 | HarveyDent | so it never unpacked the addon correctly |
06:21.59 | HarveyDent | @arrowmaster: is it possible to cut and paste the sharedmedialib into my alt's Pitbull folder? |
06:22.02 | HarveyDent | and call it a day? |
06:22.16 | Arrowmaster | just install the sharedmedia addon |
06:22.16 | HarveyDent | tomato, tomatoe |
06:22.19 | sylvanaar | just get a copy of it and put it in your addons folder |
06:22.25 | haste | I wouldn't recommend cutting |
06:22.27 | HarveyDent | fair enough |
06:22.35 | HarveyDent | haste, lol copy and paste |
06:22.37 | haste | copy and paste would be possible if it attempts to load it at all tho' |
06:22.42 | sylvanaar | get a zipped copy |
06:23.37 | Arrowmaster | youve got some other addon thats registering textures with sharedmedialib so you either need to enable that addon or enable another addon (sharedmedia) that will register textures with sharedmedialib |
06:27.41 | HarveyDent | yeah |
06:27.46 | HarveyDent | I found out it was oRA2 |
06:28.05 | HarveyDent | I just copied all of it's tga files into Pitbull and it's working |
06:28.15 | art3mis | anyone remember what to do with the cat figurines in darkshore? |
06:28.15 | Arrowmaster | really? |
06:28.16 | HarveyDent | but I am going to install that addon though, SharedMedia |
06:28.22 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt work that way |
06:28.44 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: what do you mean "what to do" with them? |
06:29.09 | art3mis | well my brain says you gather a few then go to this other statue and kill the create and get a 3 use cat pet |
06:29.48 | art3mis | create== creature |
06:30.04 | art3mis | is that right? |
06:30.28 | HarveyDent | oh lol Arrowmaster - I just had oRA2 enabled by accident. You're right - it didn't work |
06:30.42 | HarveyDent | ah well. I'll just install that addon |
06:30.48 | HarveyDent | SharedMedia |
06:30.54 | art3mis | oh no im wrong |
06:30.56 | art3mis | nm |
06:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, i don't know much about that, but i think when looting the figurines, randomly a cat will spawn and attack you, and it randomly will drop a consumable item that summons the cat as a combat pet. |
06:31.22 | art3mis | yeah |
06:31.24 | art3mis | just read that |
06:31.44 | art3mis | i have one on my undead p[riest when i went over here for the tailoring pattern |
06:31.46 | CIA-14 | 03next96 * r46327 10Numen/ (Numen.lua locales/enUS.lua locales/koKR.lua): |
06:31.46 | CIA-14 | Numen: |
06:31.46 | CIA-14 | - Update locale koKR |
06:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got the cat as a pet on my hunter |
06:36.22 | Xinhuan | which addonloader addon is recommended these days? |
06:36.29 | durcyn | addonloader. |
06:40.33 | Diao | i must have |
06:40.36 | Diao | terrible luck against mages |
06:40.47 | Diao | everytime they FN me they get 2 or 3 crit icelances |
06:40.49 | Diao | before it breaks |
06:40.49 | Diao | :\ |
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06:43.36 | CIA-14 | 03daviesh * r46328 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
06:43.36 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
06:43.36 | CIA-14 | - Fixed a typo that was stopping the rep factions from being available in the loot browser |
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06:58.02 | ccKep | someone here who killed mother shahraz? |
06:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no but ask anyway. |
06:58.52 | ccKep | well, I'm faaaar away from here... but I'm always curious |
06:59.01 | ccKep | just read: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mother_Shahraz |
06:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
06:59.20 | ccKep | so, she has this beam ability, fatal attraction, a cleave and the shield? |
06:59.29 | sag_ich_nicht | lol@blizzard making shattered halls even easier in 2.2 |
06:59.59 | NightHawkTheSane | how are they changing sh? |
07:00.19 | ccKep | according to the wiki: lash doing 84k to everyone affected, making immune to beam & fatal attraction |
07:00.22 | sag_ich_nicht | lowering damage from the mobs NightHawkTheSane |
07:00.30 | ccKep | so why not clumb up in front of her? |
07:01.16 | ccKep | 84k / 25 = only 3360 to everyone ^.^ |
07:01.32 | Diao | hmm |
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07:01.38 | Diao | REMOVED - SetActionSelfCastKey |
07:01.39 | sag_ich_nicht | because 3360 still hurt a clothy. |
07:01.45 | Diao | does this mean we can't use self-cast based on a button anymore? |
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07:01.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no, read on. |
07:02.11 | ccKep | sag_ich_nicht: those are unmitigrated values anyway |
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07:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | they just changed the names of the functions iirc. |
07:02.23 | ccKep | even clothies have 10% mitigration, so it's rougly exact 3k |
07:02.53 | ccKep | guess the wiki is missing some informations :/ |
07:04.01 | sag_ich_nicht | well duh. |
07:06.51 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46329 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Added search function. Search by itemID, itemString, itemName, itemLink, or regex pattern. |
07:21.27 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46330 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua): |
07:21.27 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
07:21.27 | CIA-14 | - Card game update |
07:21.30 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46331 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
07:21.30 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
07:21.30 | CIA-14 | - Card game update |
07:22.02 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46332 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
07:22.03 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
07:22.03 | CIA-14 | - loot update |
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07:29.43 | HarveyDent | new UI |
07:29.45 | HarveyDent | http://ctscreens.net/8483 |
07:30.01 | HarveyDent | thanks to pitbull, prat, omnicc, omen, and bt3 |
07:30.06 | HarveyDent | and fubar |
07:30.16 | Diao | no names |
07:30.19 | Diao | on the frames o_O |
07:30.23 | HarveyDent | and simpleminimap |
07:30.25 | Diao | or numbers |
07:30.41 | HarveyDent | oh those were edited out lol |
07:30.46 | Diao | oh |
07:30.47 | Diao | lol |
07:30.48 | HarveyDent | everyone else does it for whatever reason |
07:30.49 | Diao | i was gonna say |
07:30.52 | Diao | how do you play without them |
07:31.01 | HarveyDent | so I just dindtk now if it was tacky to NOT edit names out |
07:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: he's just that good. ;) |
07:31.12 | HarveyDent | hehe |
07:31.20 | HarveyDent | any feedback? |
07:31.20 | NightHawkTheSane | HarveyDent: people probably do it out of respect for the privacy of others |
07:31.29 | HarveyDent | yeah I figured as much |
07:31.40 | HarveyDent | I just didn't know if I should or not so went with the safe route |
07:31.46 | HarveyDent | doubt they'll ever see it |
07:31.48 | HarveyDent | but whatever ;) |
07:31.49 | NightHawkTheSane | of course, that assumes that your average wow player even knows what respect means, which I highly doubt, but.. >.> |
07:32.13 | HarveyDent | Although I did forget to get rid of the warriors nam in the chat frame |
07:32.17 | HarveyDent | and the hunter's name in pet |
07:32.19 | HarveyDent | ah well |
07:32.22 | HarveyDent | I tried lol |
07:32.36 | HarveyDent | OH! and looking at that ss now.. |
07:32.53 | HarveyDent | I know for whatever reason the author has posted that the r number wont be removed from the omen frame until it's final |
07:32.54 | HarveyDent | but.. |
07:32.56 | HarveyDent | come on |
07:32.59 | HarveyDent | there HAS to be a way to do it |
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07:33.16 | HarveyDent | I've searched all over via google and came up with nothing |
07:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd have to edit the code |
07:33.26 | HarveyDent | Where would I find that? I tried that too |
07:33.30 | HarveyDent | and couldnt find it anywhere |
07:33.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i haven't bothered looking, so I don't know. |
07:33.52 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46333 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
07:33.52 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
07:33.52 | CIA-14 | - loot update |
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07:36.08 | HarveyDent | so the only issue I have now is ClosetGnome gatherer not working at all |
07:36.13 | HarveyDent | then my UI will be complete |
07:36.21 | vhaarr | it works, just not the way you want it to |
07:36.53 | HarveyDent | I don't see it in the options list anywhere under closetgnome |
07:37.26 | HarveyDent | I can't specify an "outfit" for it, it never works when I try and loot a node that is red to me even though I have +10 herbalism on my gloves |
07:37.36 | HarveyDent | Is there something I need to "turn on"? |
07:37.53 | vhaarr | you're at max skill, right? |
07:38.03 | HarveyDent | no |
07:38.13 | HarveyDent | I tested it out on a new character |
07:38.29 | vhaarr | then I have no idea, the guy who made it was quite silly tbh |
07:38.33 | HarveyDent | I could not loot a herb without the gloves on, but could loot it with the gloves on |
07:38.48 | HarveyDent | what if I am max skill? what then? |
07:43.40 | HarveyDent | ckknight: as a rogue, whenever I highlight a target that I have not yet begun to attack, the energy meter on my playerframe begins to tick, showing the moving spark as if it's thinking I am spending energy |
07:43.46 | HarveyDent | is that as designed? |
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07:44.21 | ckknight | yes. |
07:44.31 | HarveyDent | ah ok. What's the purpose of that? |
07:44.31 | ckknight | so you can hit at the right moment |
07:44.33 | HarveyDent | ooc |
07:44.35 | Antiarc | HarveyDent: It's so that you can time ticks. |
07:44.37 | HarveyDent | AH |
07:44.41 | HarveyDent | yeah ok that makes sense |
07:44.44 | Antiarc | Stunlock combos and the like. |
07:44.48 | HarveyDent | yeah for sure |
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07:44.59 | Antiarc | Also, lawls. |
07:45.02 | Antiarc | I just did a pair of WSGs |
07:45.07 | Antiarc | Nobody in there had any arena gear |
07:45.10 | Antiarc | I tore crap UP. |
07:45.12 | Antiarc | It was awesome |
07:45.15 | HarveyDent | are you a rogue? |
07:45.17 | Antiarc | yeah |
07:45.22 | HarveyDent | see I need arena gear |
07:45.29 | HarveyDent | honestly - how long did it take you? |
07:45.39 | Antiarc | I've been arenaing for a while now |
07:45.42 | HarveyDent | figure someone who works 8 hoours a day and gets in at 7 PM EST |
07:45.42 | Antiarc | Started middle of season 1 |
07:45.50 | Antiarc | Well, you only need 10 games per week |
07:45.52 | HarveyDent | would it take that person long to get some gear? |
07:45.57 | HarveyDent | really? win or lose? |
07:46.00 | Antiarc | Either |
07:46.04 | HarveyDent | pfft really?? |
07:46.06 | odt | arena is not about how often you play, but how well |
07:46.06 | Antiarc | You need 10 games per week total |
07:46.15 | Antiarc | You win or lose points based on matches you win or lose |
07:46.21 | HarveyDent | ah you cn lose points |
07:46.25 | Antiarc | Every week, you get a certain number of arena points based on your rating |
07:46.25 | Antiarc | Yes |
07:46.35 | HarveyDent | so you have to do somewhat "well" |
07:46.45 | odt | it took us 2 months to get or rating from 1500 to 1900 in 5v5 |
07:46.45 | Antiarc | A team that wins 50% takes 2-3 weeks to get an offhand or gloves |
07:46.54 | HarveyDent | whats all this talk I hear about people saying arena is EZmode gear? That you can just lose all the time and still get good stuff? |
07:47.00 | Antiarc | You can, yes |
07:47.15 | odt | you just won't get as many points per week when you lose all the time |
07:47.20 | Antiarc | Right |
07:47.22 | odt | since your rating will be somewhat bad |
07:47.26 | Antiarc | So it takes you more weeks to get gear |
07:47.47 | HarveyDent | do you find it takes roughly exactly a weeks total plus another weeks total to get an item? |
07:47.55 | HarveyDent | or would you, say, get an item sooner if they did it like honor |
07:48.03 | HarveyDent | where it updated and added to your total points every day |
07:48.12 | Antiarc | Well, you'd get it sooner, but that wouldn't make a lot of sense |
07:48.17 | Antiarc | Since the whole thing is competitive, rather than absolute |
07:48.22 | HarveyDent | true |
07:48.24 | HarveyDent | good point |
07:48.41 | HarveyDent | I'd need a MH |
07:48.48 | HarveyDent | yeah the arena OH is nice |
07:48.52 | HarveyDent | but my MH is only 71.8 DPS |
07:48.59 | HarveyDent | while my OH is 81.5 |
07:49.03 | Antiarc | What spec? |
07:49.05 | HarveyDent | (scryers rep dagger) |
07:49.08 | HarveyDent | 15/41/5 |
07:49.10 | HarveyDent | combat daggers |
07:49.19 | Antiarc | How fast is the scryer rep dagger? |
07:49.24 | HarveyDent | 1.5 I think |
07:49.32 | HarveyDent | while my MH is 1. |
07:49.35 | Antiarc | May be worth the upgrade to the shiv then |
07:49.35 | HarveyDent | 1.8 or 1.9 |
07:49.38 | HarveyDent | yeah? |
07:49.42 | Antiarc | Yeah, the MH |
07:49.48 | HarveyDent | oh oh the MH |
07:49.50 | Antiarc | Right |
07:49.51 | HarveyDent | yeah I agree for sur |
07:50.01 | Antiarc | I'm combat fists. Love it. |
07:50.08 | HarveyDent | yeah I hear good stuff about comb fists |
07:50.09 | Antiarc | Plus, the arena fists look damn cool. |
07:50.15 | HarveyDent | yeah and that too lol |
07:50.24 | HarveyDent | I have to be raid spec for my guild so |
07:50.27 | HarveyDent | 15/41/5 it is |
07:50.30 | Antiarc | Well |
07:50.38 | Antiarc | Combat daggers sorta lags behind combat swords/fists these days |
07:50.39 | HarveyDent | although I hear good stuff about 19/42/0 too |
07:50.43 | Antiarc | Yeah |
07:51.02 | Antiarc | Swords is really pretty OP right now, though the 2.2 change + the windfury nerf is bringing it back in line |
07:51.19 | HarveyDent | yeah there's a comb sword rogue on my server (Velth) that averages about 1600 DPS in a raid |
07:51.23 | HarveyDent | it's retarded. |
07:51.51 | HarveyDent | I push 600 as comb daggers |
07:52.15 | HarveyDent | though I push near 700-800 depending on buffs and gear |
07:52.55 | ckknight | Antiarc: just wait till Death Knights, then you'll just be obselete! |
07:53.02 | HarveyDent | heh |
07:53.06 | Antiarc | ckknight: Unless I roll one! :V |
07:53.11 | ckknight | lol |
07:53.18 | Antiarc | I'm running about 1200 DPS sustained on SSC fights right now |
07:53.27 | Antiarc | But we're a relatively low-geared group |
07:53.35 | Antiarc | Doing Vashj for the first time tomorrow |
07:53.40 | HarveyDent | grats |
07:53.41 | HarveyDent | fun fight |
07:53.49 | Antiarc | VR down, of course, but haven't put much time into TK beyond that. |
07:54.07 | HarveyDent | nice :) we just downed VR ourselves |
07:54.19 | HarveyDent | didnt spend a ton of time in TK eye |
07:54.31 | HarveyDent | spent it all on SSC for loot so now it's TK eye for us |
07:56.07 | HarveyDent | ckknight: aware of any addons that might make a macro button flash if a message is caught in a specific chatframe? |
07:56.09 | Mecdemort | is there any way to modify the tooltip when mousing over an item with AceOptions |
07:56.15 | ckknight | no |
07:56.20 | Mecdemort | poop |
07:56.45 | ckknight | well, no to both |
07:57.10 | Mecdemort | wtb desc taking a function |
07:57.21 | Diao | Antiarc for sanity any idea why when i mouseover an item it shows how many are in the inventory/bank/bags/alt etc but if i use the sanity inventory itself it doesn't? |
07:57.28 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r46334 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (22 files in 2 dirs): |
07:57.28 | CIA-14 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: initial commit |
07:57.28 | CIA-14 | - Quest data library for Cartographer, contains zhCN quest date only for now |
07:57.28 | CIA-14 | - Originally posted at http://bbs.cwowaddon.com/thread-1157-1-1.html, I just maintain the version with externals on SVN |
07:57.44 | Antiarc | Diao: It should. If not, it's a bug or conflict with another mod. |
07:58.22 | ckknight | Mecdemort: not happening, what you're doing is out of sope |
07:58.24 | ckknight | scope* |
07:58.26 | Diao | hm ok |
07:59.01 | Diao | must be a conflict |
07:59.10 | Diao | all i see is the name of the item, character, and location |
07:59.55 | Mecdemort | ckknight: ya i know |
08:00.08 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r46335 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: bugfix logic for getting lockpicking rank and box detection |
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08:01.08 | Diao | i'll try enabling only sanity |
08:01.09 | Diao | and see |
08:02.46 | HarveyDent | oh yeah. I tried out incubator.. |
08:02.52 | HarveyDent | does that thing even work? |
08:03.09 | HarveyDent | I did a full five mech runs last night and didn't get a timer to come up at all for repops |
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08:06.24 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r46336 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW local for PT |
08:06.28 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r46337 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/: |
08:06.28 | CIA-14 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
08:06.28 | CIA-14 | - set externals |
08:06.48 | Diao | mech has repops? |
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08:09.33 | siIentium | hm, cant remember if incubator ever showed me timers for non-raid instances - and even there, it only shows them once they go below 1 hour by default (which can be changed) |
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08:14.24 | Grum_ | ScheduleRepeatingEvent Ace2 or blizz buildin? :/ .. and any easy way to find that kind of stuff out? |
08:16.13 | Grum_ | hmmm i'll define 'anything that looks cool' as Ace2 .. seems i'm right most of the times hehe |
08:16.14 | attumen | Is it possible , that the Bigwigs-VersionQuery doesn't show versions, that are very old? |
08:17.47 | attumen | like bw33913? |
08:19.28 | siIentium | I dont know for sure (I'm only a user), but could imagine that those very old versions dont support the version query yet, so they dont answer it and dont get listed |
08:20.26 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46338 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Added slash commands. |
08:22.34 | attumen | i think that they changed the version query some rev ago, but i can't understand lua yet ;) |
08:22.43 | Neebler | ahahaha http://www.ugo.com/a/2007-fall-tv-guide/?cur=chuck |
08:22.58 | Neebler | and your level 89 Druid is missing his Stone of Jordan. |
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08:28.59 | ckknight | Grum: that's part of Ace2 |
08:31.29 | Grum_ | humz all of the sudden Graph-1.0 is giving me a pain .. it has this nice 'lets do special' before initializing and for whatever reason it keeps giving me an error :/ |
08:31.36 | Grum_ | local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0),"AddOns\\(.+)Graph%-1%.0\\").."GraphTextures\\" |
08:33.45 | Grum_ | strange thing is that Recount has it set up the exact same way .. and that works :) |
08:35.18 | Grum_ | btw ckknight it seems to be 'not that easy' to draw anything on the minimap/worldmap .. the amount of stuff you are hooking and events you are trapping is .. well .. much more than i expected :) |
08:35.30 | ckknight | true. |
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08:37.58 | Grum_ | is there any way for me to use what you have already done or will this be a case of 'code duplication' ? |
08:38.42 | HarveyDent | One thing I just found with Prat is that when I click on my macro buttons to change tabs (as discussed earlier), the chat buttons (scroll down, up, bottom) flash in briefly |
08:39.07 | HarveyDent | Any way to fix that? |
08:39.14 | HarveyDent | or change an option so they never appear, ever? |
08:43.57 | HarveyDent | http://ctscreens.net/8484 |
08:44.00 | HarveyDent | this is an example |
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08:51.22 | Fisker- | this is beautiful |
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08:51.39 | Fisker- | oh nevermind >:( |
08:51.52 | Fisker- | thought i just saw a blue geared priest in tier 5 :P |
08:51.56 | Fisker- | was just arena 2 |
08:52.12 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r46339 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/ (EmoteData-zhCN.lua FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc): FuBar_EmoteFu2: Add zhCN localization |
08:53.13 | Grum_ | *rha* .. who made Graph-1.0! ;D |
08:53.59 | Grum_ | Cryect: for when you wake up the following piece of code is broken when you have a 'long' addon name |
08:54.00 | Grum_ | local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0),"AddOns\\(.+)Graph%-1%.0\\").."GraphTextures\\" |
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08:54.25 | Grum_ | the string i was matching against was: ...Ons\\Cartographer_Routes\\Libs\Graph-1.0 |
08:55.45 | Grum_ | i have no idea why you dont put the 'artwork' in your addondir but it was somewhat nasty to track down and will break for me in any future version :D |
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08:58.25 | Daemona | hrm someone broke the prototype.lua in bigwigs in the latest commit |
08:58.38 | Grum_ | svn blamelog? :) |
08:58.54 | Daemona | cwdg with his zhTW update probably |
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09:05.59 | cncfanatics | good morning everyone |
09:08.55 | Fisker- | around cncfanatics never relax? |
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09:10.56 | cncfanatics | hmmm, what u talking about ? |
09:11.04 | cncfanatics | havent been around yesterday afternoon (my time) at all |
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09:12.42 | baer_ | moin |
09:13.36 | Awaa | [2007/08/12 10:52:26-142-x1]: BigWigs\Prototype.lua:72: unexpected symbol near '}' |
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09:15.36 | cncfanatics | any US player around ? |
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09:29.45 | CIA-14 | 03diablohu * r46340 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
09:29.45 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
09:29.46 | CIA-14 | - update zhCN |
09:29.50 | cncfanatics | whats the difference between SetBindingClick and SetOverrideBindingClick ? |
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09:32.23 | Nargiddley | set override is temporary, doesnt get saved and can be removed |
09:34.33 | Grum_ | is there any way i can get the name of a frame which i can only see? |
09:35.14 | Grum_ | there was some /script thingie with mouseover orso O.o |
09:35.18 | Arrowmaster | mouseover and type /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
09:36.01 | cncfanatics | how to remove them, Nargiddley ? |
09:36.34 | Grum_ | thanks Arrowmaster |
09:36.39 | cncfanatics | and how to use the command, what does owner & isPriority stand for ? |
09:36.53 | Arrowmaster | owner is a frame |
09:37.16 | cncfanatics | and isPriority ? |
09:37.35 | Nargiddley | theres something like ClearOverrideBindingClick |
09:37.45 | Nargiddley | cant remember the exact name |
09:37.55 | Arrowmaster | remove using a generic function like ClearOverrideBinding(owner) |
09:37.59 | cncfanatics | !api ClearOverideBindings(); |
09:37.59 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverideBindings(); |
09:38.31 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, could you please point me to the Waterfall object for keybindings ? |
09:38.34 | Arrowmaster | i think priority is just something for which override binding should take effect if more than 1 are |
09:38.36 | cncfanatics | think there was a special kind of text fields ? |
09:38.46 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, cant they just all take effect ? |
09:38.50 | Arrowmaster | !api ClearOverrideBindings() |
09:38.51 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings() |
09:39.00 | cncfanatics | !api ClearOverrideBindings |
09:39.01 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings |
09:39.11 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: not on the same key |
09:39.24 | cncfanatics | ah I see |
09:39.34 | cncfanatics | if there is no priority, does the last one set take effect ? |
09:39.42 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
09:40.32 | Arrowmaster | checkout my addon GoldenRun on the svn |
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09:40.45 | Arrowmaster | it does override bindings |
09:40.56 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, type 'keybind' is for keybindings |
09:41.04 | cncfanatics | thank you Nargiddley |
09:41.35 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, SetOverrideBindingClick(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "ButtoName"[,"mouseButton"]), sure owner is a frame ? as it also needs the buttonname as param its weird |
09:42.15 | Arrowmaster | thats for making a keybinding to clicking a button |
09:42.23 | Arrowmaster | or i guess frame |
09:42.42 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, owner doesnt have to be the button |
09:42.49 | cncfanatics | good |
09:42.58 | Arrowmaster | im sure owner is a frame, i had issues with getting it working until somebody told me that |
09:43.12 | cncfanatics | why would it ask for both the frame and the frame's name ? |
09:43.16 | cncfanatics | sounds illogical to me |
09:43.18 | Arrowmaster | owner is just a frame thats used as a reference for clearing the bindings |
09:43.21 | Nargiddley | yeah i'm sending a frame as the owner |
09:43.27 | Nargiddley | but its not the button |
09:43.44 | Nargiddley | well not all the time |
09:43.44 | cncfanatics | I have kinda no frames around except the button |
09:43.47 | Arrowmaster | its not asking for the frame name, just the frame |
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09:43.58 | cncfanatics | "ButtoName" |
09:44.04 | Nargiddley | just give the button then |
09:44.05 | cncfanatics | thats the frame name if i'm not mistaking ? |
09:44.41 | cncfanatics | guess i'll create one master frame as owner |
09:44.43 | Arrowmaster | that seems odd |
09:44.47 | cncfanatics | !api CreateFrame |
09:44.48 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
09:44.55 | Nargiddley | "ButtonName" is the button that will be pressed, owner is a frame that is used to reference the binding later |
09:45.07 | Nargiddley | it could be the button |
09:45.12 | cncfanatics | guess its good to have all buttons have the same owner then :) |
09:45.13 | Arrowmaster | since if your frame might not be named |
09:45.26 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: what are you using this for? |
09:45.38 | Nargiddley | all the same owner means you can clear it in one call |
09:45.43 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2 button keybindings, Arrowmaster |
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09:45.54 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, hmmm, I dont want that |
09:45.58 | Nargiddley | why use override then ? |
09:46.02 | Arrowmaster | dont use overridebindings for it then |
09:46.22 | Arrowmaster | override is for when you want to bind something then remove it and go back to the original binding |
09:46.27 | cncfanatics | frames are dynamic |
09:46.33 | cncfanatics | bindings shouldnt be saved, frames dont have fixed names |
09:46.56 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
09:46.58 | Nargiddley | I use it for the assist keybindings in MainAssist, since i'm changing it alot |
09:47.06 | cncfanatics | SetBindingClick would just create unneeded overhead by trying to save it imo |
09:47.44 | cncfanatics | tbh, as frame name I just use FB2_ followed by the UID of the object's table |
09:47.56 | cncfanatics | as those functions always ask for a frame name :p |
09:48.05 | cncfanatics | SetOverrideBindingClick(self.Frame, nil, Key, self.Frame:GetName()) is my current code |
09:48.17 | cncfanatics | looks fine except its silly to pass both the frame & its name -.- |
09:48.27 | Nargiddley | well thats the api :P |
09:48.56 | Arrowmaster | the owner has nothing to do with what the binding actually does |
09:49.14 | cncfanatics | its good to have the button as owner imo |
09:49.19 | cncfanatics | so if I want to set a new binding, I can clear it |
09:49.21 | cncfanatics | and set a new one |
09:49.35 | cncfanatics | ClearOverrideBindings(self.Frame); SetOverrideBindingClick(self.Frame, nil, Key, self.Frame:GetName()); is my current code now |
09:50.02 | Nargiddley | well thats the reason for passing it twice, for the way i use it a single owner for all was better |
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09:50.41 | Nargiddley | since i have alot of frames, and only a couple get bindings |
09:51.03 | cncfanatics | well, I dont know how much are going to get a binding, up to the user |
09:51.10 | cncfanatics | might be all, might be one out of 200 |
09:51.36 | Nargiddley | well for me it was 4 out of 3*num of tanks always |
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09:53.45 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72105 should do I supose ? |
09:53.51 | cncfanatics | as SetBinding function for my objects |
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10:17.25 | Grum_ | Can I using /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() also get the name of the parent frame? |
10:17.42 | Grum_ | wondering how the interitance is for the WorldMap frame |
10:18.40 | Nargiddley | GetMouseFocus():GetParent():GetName() will work |
10:18.41 | CIA-14 | 03scorpio0920 * r46341 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Fixed typo for zhTW. |
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10:24.05 | Fisker- | Anyone else having problems with xloot? |
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10:42.46 | baer_ | is #wowace-cia still up? |
10:43.27 | cncfanatics | ofc it is |
10:43.43 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, xloot has a new feature to block not work on the accounts of irc trolls xD |
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10:49.25 | Fisker- | nooo cncfanatics |
10:49.28 | Fisker- | because it works |
10:49.34 | Fisker- | so owned |
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10:57.29 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, it'll be included soon then ! |
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11:07.43 | CIA-14 | 03borlox * r46342 10Knowledge-1.0/ (Knowledge-1.0/Knowledge-1.0.lua Knowledge-1.0.toc): |
11:07.44 | CIA-14 | Knowledge-1.0: |
11:07.44 | CIA-14 | - added :OpenKnowledgeBase(categoryOrArticle, subCategory) |
11:07.44 | CIA-14 | - changed :GetCategoryIdByName to use a more efficient way to get the id. |
11:07.44 | CIA-14 | - added some toc data |
11:08.55 | CIA-14 | 03borlox * r46343 10NCHide/ (6 files): |
11:08.55 | CIA-14 | NCHide: |
11:08.55 | CIA-14 | - added Knowledge-1.0 to the externals |
11:08.55 | CIA-14 | - added a knowledge base article. Use the "Help" button in the menu to show it. |
11:10.21 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, u here ? |
11:11.51 | Fisker- | oh u |
11:15.40 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, yeah |
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11:19.23 | cncfanatics | nvm, I made a mistake myself, sigh :( |
11:21.40 | Awaa | Can you make crits not have that chaking anim in MSBT? |
11:21.41 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46344 10Cartographer_Data/ (3 files): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
11:22.55 | cncfanatics | download parrot instead ? :p |
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11:24.07 | Awaa | =) |
11:24.23 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, pressing escape when having a 'keybind' control active will not clear it, just unselect it |
11:25.31 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46345 10Cartographer_Data/ (Cartographer_Data.toc core.lua): Cartographer_Data: added Nayala's treasure fix and only to overwrite saved dbs once per week, also removed Cart_Notes from Deps and put it as an optional dep and dependency is now cart |
11:27.41 | ckknight | alright, I finally got the tree part working for JokerConfig |
11:27.44 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, it will call your set func with nil when esc is pressed, up to you to clear it |
11:27.54 | ckknight | still have the internal stuff, though |
11:28.01 | ckknight | bah |
11:28.33 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, I see |
11:28.55 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, my setFunc should clear it |
11:29.05 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
11:29.20 | cncfanatics | sure it calls getFunc after correctly ? |
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11:30.06 | winkiller | jokerconfig? |
11:30.12 | Nargiddley | hm its calling it, might be ignoring a nil return tho :/ |
11:30.34 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72106 is my waterfall for keybindings |
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11:30.55 | winkiller | btw, is there any wiki page I missed for: "don't miss out on these cool new features/packages"? |
11:30.56 | cncfanatics | only the Action == "edit" part is important |
11:31.23 | winkiller | something like: addon A was newly introduced, addon b got major bugfixes, addon c got many new features |
11:31.27 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, try that |
11:31.33 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r46346 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: nil returned from a keybind get will clear it |
11:31.54 | cncfanatics | thank you |
11:31.58 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46347 10Cartographer_Data/core.lua: Cartographer_Data: added keywords |
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11:38.55 | Ominous | is it me or are forum e-mails not working |
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11:49.45 | baer_ | hmm... |
11:50.19 | baer_ | Error: unexpected symbol near '}' File: Interface\Addons\BigWips\Prototype.lua Line: 72 Count: 1 |
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11:57.00 | Saryai | Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here? http://ace.pastey.net/72109 |
11:57.29 | Saryai | Getting an attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value) |
11:57.48 | Saryai | And I have a feeling it's something reeeealy dumb that I did. |
11:58.12 | Saryai | (Whoops, 'char' not 'profile') |
11:59.00 | Arrowmaster | what line does the error say? |
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11:59.39 | Saryai | 15. |
12:00.24 | cncfanatics | Ominous, ping |
12:00.29 | Arrowmaster | try moving 15-17 into an oninit |
12:00.57 | Arrowmaster | savedvars might now be ready yet at doing it that way |
12:01.00 | Arrowmaster | not |
12:01.06 | Saryai | Alright. Trying that. |
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12:06.41 | Saryai | Weird. |
12:06.45 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72110 |
12:06.56 | Saryai | GIR-10001\Core.lua:20: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "CHAT_MSG_GUILD" to method "CHAT_MSG_GUILD", it does not exist |
12:07.54 | Arrowmaster | need to define the function GIR:CHAT_MSG_GUILD() |
12:08.38 | Saryai | Ah, that'd be why it stopped working. I took out the function a while back. >.< |
12:09.18 | Arrowmaster | you probably want to do 'local g1, g2, ch' before the OnEnable |
12:09.27 | Arrowmaster | and remove the locals from the last lines of the onenable |
12:10.23 | Saryai | Yeah. Just a quick copy/paste to get that error out of the way. Thanks. |
12:11.01 | Arrowmaster | and are you calling fuctions as addon.method() there instead of addon:method()? |
12:11.47 | Saryai | Nah, my functions are addon:method(). |
12:12.14 | Arrowmaster | GIR.RegisterComm |
12:12.21 | Arrowmaster | GIR.StatusReady() |
12:12.25 | Saryai | Course, that could be a possibility... I was writing this after 30+ awake hours. |
12:12.32 | Arrowmaster | heh |
12:13.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah i was up for about the same then got like 5 hours of sleep yesterday |
12:13.19 | Saryai | Yeah. |
12:13.27 | Saryai | Methinks it's time to proofread this a bit. |
12:14.15 | Saryai | Gonna pastey the entire thing real quick... It's not very long... |
12:14.33 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72111 |
12:15.32 | Saryai | Do I even need that GIR.active on 14? It's just a 1/nil anyway, I could prolly get away with just using 'ready'. |
12:16.13 | Saryai | Answered my own question. |
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12:19.48 | Saryai | Woot! No errors now! |
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12:25.07 | Saryai | Someone mind helping me set up a table? |
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12:26.08 | Arrowmaster | such as? |
12:26.18 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72112 - Around line 66. |
12:26.40 | Saryai | Commented out an idea for a table that didn't work, and I'm to the point where I have to get that set up. |
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12:28.40 | Arrowmaster | ok |
12:28.53 | Saryai | All the table needs to hold is two values (name and a 1/0 active tag). |
12:29.51 | Arrowmaster | so table[sender] = true |
12:30.42 | Arrowmaster | or table[sender] = false |
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12:31.47 | Saryai | That'd make too much sense. |
12:32.05 | Saryai | So at 66: if arg1 == version and (arg6 == "start" or arg6 == "cb") |
12:32.08 | Arrowmaster | maybe you should get some sleep |
12:32.14 | Saryai | And 67: rtbl[sender]=true |
12:32.42 | Saryai | Eh, just woke up. Just trying to make sense of my own code. >.> |
12:33.33 | [dRaCo] | you should comment it :þ |
12:33.50 | Arrowmaster | youll need a 'then' in there |
12:34.00 | Arrowmaster | most people put it on the same line as the 'if' |
12:34.28 | Saryai | Yeah. Also need to make sure nobody's getting put on the list twice. |
12:34.58 | Arrowmaster | they cant get in twice if your doing rtbl[sender]=true |
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12:35.06 | Saryai | Alright. |
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12:36.23 | Saryai | Now, to access this later by alphabetical order and change the tag of one person, about how would I be doing that? |
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12:36.44 | Arrowmaster | well that would be much harder |
12:36.57 | Grum_ | LOL .. why is the worldmap a button? =D |
12:36.57 | Saryai | IE: This table's holding 3 people. Bob, Charley, Dave. Bob and Dave are false, Charley is true. |
12:36.59 | Arrowmaster | youll need a temp table for sorting |
12:37.18 | Saryai | Charley lags out, so we need someone else to be true. |
12:37.30 | Grum_ | why does 'alphabetical' order matter? |
12:37.40 | Arrowmaster | probably for display |
12:37.45 | Saryai | Consistency. |
12:38.17 | Saryai | None of this is displayed, but there's going to be a few people running the mod. That "true" is a label for the active broadcaster of the guild. |
12:38.22 | Grum_ | mm is the WorldMap a button because it accepts clicks? |
12:38.37 | Grum_ | that would make some sense at least |
12:38.50 | Saryai | So if the active broadcaster lags out or quits, a new one has to be chosen, and I'd like it to be the same regardless of the situation. |
12:38.57 | Arrowmaster | well you dont really need it sorted then |
12:39.22 | Grum_ | not really just when you select a new one :) |
12:40.10 | Grum_ | you could also just make it 'fifo' - having the second one to 'register' being the next one to do the broadcasting |
12:40.59 | Saryai | Actually... Think I might've figured a better way to do that. |
12:41.21 | Saryai | Assign a random number and send it in the addonmessages. |
12:41.45 | Arrowmaster | hmm i should probably get some sleep since its almost 9am and i have a raid at 5pm |
12:42.04 | Saryai | Then I can just pick a low/high number on the list and call it good... Right? |
12:42.10 | JoshBorke | sleep is over-rated |
12:42.15 | Saryai | Yes it is. |
12:42.29 | Arrowmaster | Saryai: you could also do the 'pick a random number and wait that long to send a message, first person to send the message wins' method |
12:42.58 | Grum_ | there is no 'real' way to get out all possible lag btw |
12:43.07 | Arrowmaster | well i also was just up from sometime thursday till sometime saturday |
12:43.23 | Arrowmaster | and i dont remember going to bed on saturday |
12:43.29 | Saryai | Arrow: Wouldn't really work. |
12:43.34 | Arrowmaster | i just wokeup in bed still wearing my pants |
12:44.10 | Arrowmaster | and didnt even get that much sleep either i dont think due to waking up from a very loud noise outside |
12:44.57 | Arrowmaster | so i heading to bed cya |
12:45.17 | Saryai | It's gonna be a semi-lagproof system. The addon relays guildchat by having at least one user each in two guilds. If there's more than one user active in a guild, and the active broadcaster lags out/quits/whatever, then every user in the guild would automatically choose and assign a new broadcaster to take over. |
12:45.27 | Saryai | Mornin' Arrowmaster. |
12:45.50 | Arrowmaster | well it is moring |
12:45.54 | Arrowmaster | ~ugt |
12:45.54 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
12:46.03 | Arrowmaster | but also evening, cya |
12:46.10 | Saryai | Heh, later. |
12:47.00 | Saryai | *points up* That's why it's important to have this table and either the random number or by-name system. That way each client knows who's up next as soon as the situation changes. |
12:48.22 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, ping |
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12:49.19 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
12:49.41 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 18m 14s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics, try that'. |
12:51.34 | Ominous | hey all |
12:51.38 | cncfanatics | hello Ominous |
12:52.00 | Ominous | hows fb? |
12:52.06 | cncfanatics | Working with stances |
12:52.09 | cncfanatics | working on keybindings atm |
12:52.12 | Ominous | :) |
12:52.19 | Ominous | stances work? |
12:52.25 | Ominous | omg i have to try it when i get home |
12:52.43 | cncfanatics | its really going nicely imo |
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12:54.12 | Bootvi | Hello there, I want to start writing a small addon for FuBar, but have no idea how to start |
12:54.14 | cladhaire | If you guys have a need for imageshack like hosting, without the slowness or BS.. feel free to use: http://images.gammatester.com/ |
12:54.30 | cladhaire | Just tossed the script up for my own uses, and its working well so far :P |
12:54.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
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12:54.46 | cncfanatics | ~imagehosting |
12:55.01 | cncfanatics | purl, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
12:55.01 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
12:55.04 | cncfanatics | there :) |
12:55.08 | cncfanatics | that'll be handy, cheers cladhaire :) |
12:55.09 | cladhaire | lol |
12:55.20 | cncfanatics | i'll forget it in the next 10 sec if I dont do that -.- |
12:55.30 | cladhaire | i'm the same way |
12:55.32 | Bootvi | Can anyone throw some pointers about how starting an addon for FuBar.. I'm kinda lost |
12:55.57 | cncfanatics | Ominous, soon FB2 is considered beta |
12:56.02 | Ominous | :) |
12:56.04 | cncfanatics | the first real beta with a damn gui & slashcommands |
12:56.08 | Ominous | is it me or are forum e-mails not working? |
12:56.11 | Ominous | cncfanatics, =D |
12:56.33 | Bootvi | Can anyone see my msg's btw? :o |
12:57.19 | Saryai | Bootvi: Yes. |
12:57.30 | cncfanatics | there, flexbar2 beta ! |
12:57.32 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46349 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Keybindings/Keybindings.lua Layout/Layout.lua): (log message trimmed) |
12:57.32 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
12:57.32 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2 is now considered beta |
12:57.32 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
12:57.32 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
12:57.34 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
12:57.36 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
12:57.50 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: http://images.gammatester.com/resize/ |
12:58.03 | Bootvi | alright. Can anyone throw me a tip on how to start an addon for FuBar? Any link? something? |
12:58.19 | cncfanatics | Bootvi, I think there's a tutorial somewhere |
12:58.20 | Shirik | tbph |
12:58.22 | Shirik | get an addon for fubar |
12:58.37 | cncfanatics | and watch its code, indeed, always works best for me |
12:59.18 | Bootvi | ye been looking for it cncfanatics |
12:59.28 | Bootvi | ok thanks Shirik |
13:02.20 | Saryai | If I do GIR:RegisterComm(GIR.commPrefix, "WHISPER", "ReceiveMessage"), I won't have to self.RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER"), will I? |
13:02.54 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46350 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: TOC update |
13:04.22 | cncfanatics | ~flexbar |
13:04.22 | purl | flexbar is, like, a button creation/manipulation addon. You can find its forums at http://www.flexbarforums.com/ |
13:04.32 | cncfanatics | purl, forget flexbar |
13:05.14 | dodga | purl, have my babies |
13:05.33 | dodga | She's shy :> |
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13:07.15 | cncfanatics | ~FlexBar2 |
13:07.33 | cncfanatics | ~flexbar |
13:07.34 | purl | rumour has it, flexbar is A button manipulation addon currently in beta, find the latest info at http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
13:07.37 | cncfanatics | ~flexbar2 |
13:07.38 | purl | flexbar2 is probably A button manipulation addon currently in beta, find the latest info at http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
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13:09.37 | Fisker- | why flexbar2? |
13:09.50 | cncfanatics | to make you attack me ? |
13:09.53 | Saryai | Noob question: Looking through the tables section in pil, not quite sure... Once I add to a table ("then rtbl[sender]") how would I later remove an entry from it? |
13:09.56 | Fisker- | good answer |
13:10.10 | Wobin | set it to nil |
13:10.26 | Saryai | So rtbl[sender]=nil? |
13:10.30 | Wobin | aye |
13:10.33 | Saryai | Alright |
13:14.40 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46351 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Herbalism.lua: Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
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13:15.58 | cncfanatics | hmmm, not really the channel to ask this but |
13:16.04 | cncfanatics | will there be a lua engine in warhammer online ? |
13:16.10 | cncfanatics | I want my flexbar there before I start playing :p |
13:16.14 | Saryai | Hope so. |
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13:17.44 | Grum_ | meh who made Cartographer so overly complicated! O.o |
13:18.01 | nomenquis | Hi, i'm looking for someone who is interested in fixing a small bug in FuBar_AlchemyFu, or at least who can help me with fixing it :) |
13:18.53 | Wobin | Grum: ckknight |
13:19.11 | Grum_ | *AND* forgot to document it |
13:19.21 | Grum_ | because really .. geez .. my head spins |
13:19.47 | Grum_ | and why do people do stuff like: |
13:19.47 | Grum_ | Cartographer_Notes = Cartographer:NewModule("Notes", "AceHook-2.1", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceComm-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0") |
13:19.48 | Grum_ | local Cartographer_Notes = Cartographer_Notes |
13:19.48 | Grum_ | local self = Cartographer_Notes |
13:19.58 | Grum_ | why the 2(!) locals after it? |
13:20.07 | Wobin | cause a local reference is always faster than a global lookup |
13:20.09 | Ominous | local is abit quicker |
13:20.26 | Wobin | and self is usually easier to read than the full name and faster to type |
13:21.04 | Grum_ | so whenever you will do function self:... or function Cartographer_Notes:... it will be exactly the same? |
13:21.11 | Wobin | yeah |
13:21.19 | Grum_ | how useful, lazy typers! Tsk :D |
13:21.51 | Wobin | generally self is passed in automatically when you use the format object:functionname() |
13:22.02 | nomenquis | Anyone familiar with fubar_alchemyfu? |
13:22.11 | Wobin | it's the same as object.functionname(object) |
13:22.52 | Grum_ | so why use both '.' and ':' ? |
13:22.58 | Wobin | syntactic sugar |
13:23.10 | Wobin | it's faster to write object:functionname() |
13:23.18 | Wobin | than object.functionname(object self) |
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13:23.44 | Grum_ | i also see stuff like: |
13:23.44 | Grum_ | local function getColorID(r, g, b) end |
13:23.44 | Grum_ | Cartographer_Notes.getColorID = getColorID |
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13:23.53 | Grum_ | what possible function can that have? |
13:24.10 | Grum_ | why not just do: function Cartographer_Notes.getColorID( .. ) end |
13:24.17 | Wobin | it's trying to reference a local function |
13:24.23 | Wobin | which only has scope within the object |
13:24.35 | Grum_ | you mean 'within the .lua file you are in' ? |
13:24.41 | Wobin | yeah |
13:25.17 | Grum_ | ok so you do not define it in the global scope now, which is ok |
13:25.26 | Grum_ | but why not do function Cartographer_Notes:getColorID( .. ) end |
13:25.32 | Grum_ | wouldn't that be exactly the same? |
13:25.52 | Wobin | it will be after you assign it to the global |
13:26.09 | Grum_ | riight |
13:26.23 | Wobin | chances are it's more an attempt at making a local function global |
13:26.30 | Wobin | or at least somewhat accessible |
13:26.38 | Grum_ | inaccessible then right? :) |
13:27.18 | Grum_ | ok so without syntactic sugar it would be: class:method( object, args ) |
13:27.26 | Wobin | It's more for the modules that are trying to hack into the Cart_notes object |
13:27.35 | Grum_ | with sugar: object = class; object.method( args ) ? |
13:27.52 | Wobin | class and object are the same thing |
13:27.57 | Grum_ | figured |
13:28.05 | Grum_ | there is no real 'instance' of a class in lua |
13:28.08 | Grum_ | just 'tables' :) |
13:28.09 | Wobin | but no |
13:28.15 | Wobin | it would be object:method(args) |
13:28.24 | Wobin | and object.method(object, args) |
13:28.35 | Grum_ | ah k, so the sugar is the : |
13:28.38 | Wobin | yeah |
13:28.55 | Grum_ | object:method(args) is really rewritten to object.method(object, args) ? |
13:29.02 | Wobin | yes |
13:29.07 | Saryai | Question: How would I watch guild chat for a certain local? Would that be by using "if string.find(local1)" or should I be using a different method? |
13:29.11 | Wobin | functionally identical |
13:29.34 | Wobin | Saryai: not quite following |
13:29.35 | Grum_ | but with object2 = object; you can also do object.method(object2, args) right? |
13:29.50 | Wobin | well... yes |
13:29.55 | Wobin | although I don't know why you would want to |
13:29.58 | Shirik | Saryai: You can do that but not always |
13:30.07 | Shirik | you will likely want to do local1 == msg |
13:30.15 | Shirik | or string.lower(local1) == string.lower(msg) |
13:30.18 | Grum_ | well then there is never a reason to use object.method(object, args) |
13:30.21 | Saryai | Hmm. |
13:30.28 | Shirik | otherwise if your local has a % in it, you're going to have problems |
13:30.29 | Saryai | Trying to watch just the start of a guild message. |
13:30.31 | Shirik | or other special chars |
13:30.38 | Wobin | Grum_: to a certain extent |
13:30.56 | Shirik | Saryai: Is the local a user input? |
13:30.58 | Wobin | you might want to use that if you're using a singleton or passing in another object as the 'self' |
13:31.00 | Saryai | IE: If a guildie were to send "BT[Saryai]:" before the message, then the addon would ignore it. |
13:31.04 | Grum_ | yeah |
13:31.05 | Saryai | Nah, savedvar. |
13:31.10 | Saryai | Stored as a local. |
13:31.19 | Grum_ | if you are using the sugar version will you automagically get a 'self' inside the function ? |
13:31.21 | Shirik | ok, if you can guarantee there are no special chars in it |
13:31.25 | Wobin | yes |
13:31.26 | Saryai | Yes. |
13:31.42 | Saryai | No special chars, it's a 2-letter guild tag. |
13:31.43 | Shirik | you cna do string.find(msg, "^"..pattern) |
13:31.45 | Shirik | where pattern is your local |
13:32.24 | Saryai | Alright. And if I wanted to watch for brackets directly after? |
13:32.26 | Grum_ | so, (sorry for this bulkload:P) .. he was only doing the; local self = Cartographer_Notes because he wanted to use 'self' on a spot where he wasn't inside a sugar-coated function? O.o |
13:32.46 | Saryai | Just the opening bracket. So, for example, BT[ |
13:32.51 | Wobin | Grum_: Aye, possibly. who knows what lurks in the mind of ckknight =P |
13:32.53 | Shirik | Saryai: string.find(msg, "^"..pattern".."%[") |
13:32.59 | Saryai | Gotcha. Thanks. |
13:33.02 | Grum_ | Wobin: indeed hehe |
13:33.03 | Wobin | Or really whoever wrote Cart_Notes |
13:33.04 | baer_ | is parrot > msbt ? |
13:33.17 | Wobin | I still use msbt |
13:33.18 | Grum_ | ckknight did ;) |
13:33.24 | Saryai | I'm wondering that too baer... I'm about to try it out to see. |
13:33.44 | baer_ | i'm curious - drop me a note, if you tried it :) |
13:33.46 | Wobin | Not sure on that |
13:34.10 | Wobin | he incorporated it into Cart core, but I can't recall if he actually started the project |
13:34.14 | Grum_ | i wish there was a way to visualize the frame-structure ingame :) |
13:34.22 | Grum_ | because it's like really deeply nested O.o |
13:34.58 | Wobin | Maybe he rewrote it completely, who knows =P |
13:35.10 | Saryai | Shirik: And to ignore it, I assume I'd just do " if string.find(msg, "^"..g2".."%[") then return end"? |
13:35.20 | Shirik | sure |
13:35.33 | Saryai | Alright. ^_^ |
13:35.43 | Grum_ | really, someone has to spank ckknight so he'll add some comments to the code |
13:35.48 | Wobin | You're missing a .. there somewhere |
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13:36.04 | Wobin | or have an extraneous " |
13:36.25 | Grum_ | g2" should be g2 if that is the variable (which is very badly named btw) |
13:36.26 | Shirik | ? |
13:36.30 | Shirik | oh whops |
13:36.35 | Shirik | yeah the " after the g2 shouldn't be there |
13:36.43 | Grum_ | what is 'g2' btw? :) |
13:36.45 | Saryai | Alright. |
13:36.49 | Saryai | And how's g2 badly named? |
13:36.53 | Wobin | guild name 2 char? |
13:36.59 | Grum_ | guildname_2_char? :) |
13:37.00 | Shirik | it's completely unintuitive |
13:37.13 | Shirik | if someone were to look at g2 they wouldn't have the slightest clue what it means |
13:37.14 | Saryai | g2 = GIR.db.char.g2 |
13:37.19 | Wobin | hehe |
13:37.21 | Wobin | that's no help |
13:37.28 | Saryai | It's meant to be unintuitive. |
13:37.28 | Wobin | a=a |
13:37.33 | Wobin | why? |
13:37.37 | Grum_ | really use descriptive names so you can actually understand it when you read it back later |
13:37.39 | Shirik | writing code that's unintuitive is generally bad :P |
13:37.45 | Grum_ | yup :) |
13:37.46 | Wobin | it leads to tears |
13:37.46 | Saryai | Heh. |
13:37.49 | Shirik | if you do write strange code |
13:37.53 | Wobin | and recriminations |
13:37.55 | Shirik | surround it by -- HACK and -- END HACK |
13:37.59 | Wobin | and hours of "wtf was I thinking?" |
13:38.08 | Saryai | Figured it'd be pretty obvious in the code, really. The addon is meant to relay messages between two guilds. |
13:38.10 | Wobin | It's the Blizzard way |
13:38.16 | Saryai | g1 and g2 = guild1 and guild2 |
13:38.20 | Wobin | better to use guild1 and guild 2 |
13:38.20 | Grum_ | and put above: --[[ This code below does the following: ..... \n\n\n--]] |
13:38.31 | Saryai | Yep, commenting everything as I go. |
13:38.38 | Shirik | Grum: Blizzard has comments like that in their code :P |
13:38.41 | Shirik | the -- HACK and -- END HACK |
13:38.55 | Grum_ | well it's a nice tag to 'clean up later' if used consistently |
13:38.56 | Wobin | cause they take pride in their code =) |
13:38.59 | Shirik | so naturally I had to duplicate it in one of my addons |
13:39.04 | Wobin | hehe clean up |
13:39.06 | Wobin | hehe |
13:39.11 | Shirik | when I made a table and a string the same thing |
13:39.21 | Wobin | wow |
13:39.22 | Wobin | that is a HACK |
13:39.25 | Shirik | hehehe |
13:39.26 | Grum_ | you could call it: WUBUBLBLEBLBELBELB CODE BELOW |
13:39.31 | Grum_ | as long as you call it the same every time ;) |
13:39.55 | Grum_ | table and a string the same thing .. humz i cant even imagine how that would look :D |
13:40.26 | Grum_ | i find it rather strange that in lua any variable can also contain a function |
13:40.42 | Wobin | welcome to first order variables |
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13:40.47 | Shirik | it's a beautiful thing |
13:40.51 | Wobin | it's true |
13:41.19 | Grum_ | makes you read it twice all the time :) |
13:41.31 | Shirik | I'd say it's lua's most powerful tool, behind metatables |
13:41.34 | Grum_ | as you cant really get it from context but only if you read 'what it was about' :) |
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13:41.58 | Wobin | yeah, that's why meaningful variable names are essential =) |
13:42.01 | Grum_ | mmm |
13:42.12 | Grum_ | do ... end blocks allow lua to have scoping of variables? |
13:42.16 | Shirik | yes |
13:42.17 | Wobin | yep |
13:42.22 | Grum_ | do local tmp end .. and tmp is gone again? |
13:42.28 | Wobin | yep |
13:42.32 | Grum_ | mm that is nice for singletons |
13:42.32 | Wobin | well |
13:42.36 | Wobin | inaccessible outside of the block |
13:42.41 | Grum_ | yeah |
13:42.57 | Grum_ | so you can have cache tables in do .. end blocks for example |
13:43.10 | Grum_ | which evil persons can not alter from the outside :) |
13:43.23 | Wobin | You could set them as file local and it'd do the same |
13:43.27 | Shirik | you would expect evil persons to be editing the file? |
13:43.36 | Wobin | That's what they do, Shirik |
13:43.41 | Wobin | MALICIOUS TYPING DETECTED |
13:43.50 | Shirik | Wobin: Well that doesn't protect you from going into the do..end block either >< |
13:43.53 | Grum_ | hmm i see 'rawget' often - that basicly means 'ignore any metatable magic and fetch my data' ? |
13:43.56 | Wobin | it's those 4chan hackers |
13:43.57 | Shirik | yup |
13:44.09 | Wobin | Those shady 'anonymous' characters |
13:44.15 | Shirik | it goes into the table, and nothing else, and retrieves the key requested |
13:44.19 | Saryai | Alright, getting to the main process of the addon: Relaying chat_msg_guild to a private channel (which will then get repeated by another addon user in guild 2)... |
13:44.21 | Shirik | without going into any metamethods |
13:44.49 | Grum_ | and i'm working on the guts of Cartographer to make my own plugin O.o |
13:44.56 | Grum_ | but till now it's like .. severly hard :\ |
13:45.00 | Wobin | Saryai: I guess you can't be sure that there will always be two guildmembers online to relay? |
13:45.11 | Grum_ | i could ofc duplicated like 80% of cartographer(_notes) but .. that is not ok ; |
13:45.13 | Saryai | Aye. |
13:45.15 | Wobin | Cartographer is possibly a little ... complex to start off with =) |
13:45.24 | Wobin | What do you want your module to do? |
13:45.43 | Grum_ | Cartographer_Routes ... drawing of lines on the worldmap (and later minimap) |
13:45.49 | Wobin | aha |
13:45.50 | Wobin | nice |
13:46.01 | Saryai | Wobin: It'll be checking beforehand for a broadcaster on the other end. |
13:46.13 | Wobin | consider using Cart_Notes, but only really for coordinate saving for points |
13:46.18 | Grum_ | the basic thing is done .. it's a cartographer plugin, i can store data per zone ... |
13:46.20 | Grum_ | not really |
13:46.23 | Wobin | look how Cart_Waypoints hacks into it |
13:46.33 | Grum_ | because order matters |
13:46.35 | Wobin | for icons on the map |
13:46.38 | Grum_ | order is everything :\ |
13:46.46 | Wobin | that's fine |
13:47.01 | Wobin | for the location object, you can add in a ordinal variable |
13:47.09 | Wobin | since it's a table, you can add any extra information you want |
13:47.28 | Grum_ | not sure, it has a RegisterDefault, so that kinda limits you |
13:47.39 | Wobin | Add it on after the defaults |
13:47.45 | Wobin | it will save the result |
13:48.37 | Grum_ | but the only way Carto Notes will save my data is like: account.zone.{ point = data, point = data, point = data } |
13:49.01 | Grum_ | and i need: account.zone.name.route = { point, point, point } |
13:49.02 | Wobin | so, make the point.data.ordinal |
13:49.18 | Wobin | you'll have to save your own information, certainly |
13:49.38 | Grum_ | problem is that I will be forced to store the order externally |
13:49.51 | Wobin | You'd have to do that anyway, I suspect |
13:49.55 | Grum_ | as with point being the key i can not guarantee to preserve order |
13:50.01 | Grum_ | not really |
13:50.09 | Wobin | well no |
13:50.13 | Grum_ | account.zone.name.route = { point, point, point } is account.zone.name.route = { 1 = point, 2 = point, 3 = point } |
13:50.17 | Wobin | if you store the ordinal in the data ojbect |
13:50.27 | Wobin | you can then sort it yourself when doing the drawing |
13:50.42 | Grum_ | well that might be a problem - i have no idea how many times i need to draw it |
13:50.46 | Grum_ | once every frame? |
13:50.49 | Wobin | yep |
13:50.51 | Grum_ | i have no idea how that works :\ |
13:51.10 | Grum_ | but if that is the case - i do not gain much in sorting it again as i also have to categorize it and prevent it from showing icons |
13:51.12 | Wobin | well actually, I don't know |
13:51.20 | Grum_ | me neither (and that sucks) |
13:51.25 | Grum_ | and i cant really seem to find out |
13:51.44 | Wobin | I hope you get it working =) |
13:51.49 | Grum_ | also how it handles the 'location' on the map from the x/y values it gets from GetPlayerPosition(orso) |
13:51.49 | Wobin | I'd like to hook waypoints into it |
13:52.02 | Grum_ | yeah that would be a feature later on |
13:52.02 | Wobin | it does a translational hack |
13:52.36 | sylvanaar | im still playing eve - even though my brain is telling me im not having fun - im still playing |
13:52.38 | Grum_ | well from what i've been able to see it actually just does: WorldMapFrame.Width * x and WorldMapFrame.Height * y orso |
13:52.47 | Grum_ | which is rather .. too straight forward :) |
13:53.02 | Grum_ | it has to do craploads of translation for the minimap however |
13:53.12 | Grum_ | i also do not know which frame to draw ontop of |
13:53.31 | Grum_ | but likely WorldFrameButton - but i do not know if that is a frame :/ |
13:53.45 | Grum_ | *too many questions* |
13:54.09 | Wobin | best person to ask would be ckk |
13:55.01 | Grum_ | yeah |
13:55.16 | Grum_ | but is somewhat frustrating to have to wait for 1 person's time :) |
13:55.30 | Saryai | Alright, so, working on that message processor now... Now, first thing I need it to do is store the last message sent. Then, if active, relay that message. |
13:56.00 | Saryai | Not sure how I'm gonna go about storing it... Prolly just store it in a local string? |
13:57.44 | Grum_ | and why isn't there any addon which displays a more detailed map instead of the current worldmap |
13:58.10 | Saryai | I remember one that displays the minimap textures for the worldmap. |
13:58.11 | Grum_ | would be so cool to have the 'stitched together minimap display' as your worldmap |
13:58.14 | Wobin | more detailed? |
13:58.15 | Wobin | oh |
13:58.19 | Wobin | that's a lot of image |
13:58.20 | Grum_ | being able to zoom in all the way |
13:58.24 | Grum_ | it's alreayd ingame |
13:58.29 | Grum_ | you just need to know the order :) |
13:58.30 | Wobin | but inaccessible |
13:58.35 | Wobin | by the api |
13:58.39 | Saryai | Not sure exactly what the addon intailed, but it's on wowinterface. |
13:58.48 | Grum_ | Wobin: it's images right? |
13:59.00 | Grum_ | so just stitch em together yourself |
13:59.12 | Wobin | I guess, but it's a huge amount of image |
13:59.22 | Grum_ | not really, you dont need to load all data |
13:59.31 | Wobin | how do you extract it then? |
13:59.32 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46352 10ClassTimer/Bars/Warrior.lua: ClassTimer: Added a few warrior fixes |
13:59.45 | Wobin | You can't -get- the minimap graphics from the api |
13:59.45 | Grum_ | well afaik the images have 'random md5 hashes' as name |
13:59.51 | Grum_ | i know |
13:59.59 | Wobin | oy |
14:00.00 | Grum_ | but you can show the .blps it uses |
14:00.06 | Wobin | that would be a headache to figure out =P |
14:00.21 | Grum_ | someone did it - see the google-map of wow |
14:00.36 | baer_ | Grum_, oO ? |
14:01.07 | Saryai | Hmm, can't find the addon. |
14:01.09 | Wobin | mapwow.com I guess |
14:01.09 | Grum_ | http://mapwow.com/ |
14:01.12 | Grum_ | yup |
14:01.13 | Saryai | Know I saw one a while back. |
14:01.24 | Grum_ | that one did exactly what i just said - but 'outside' ;D |
14:02.14 | Wobin | yeah cartographe |
14:02.31 | Wobin | external program to show the detail |
14:03.09 | Grum_ | would be so possible :) |
14:03.28 | Grum_ | you can use 'blp' as textures right? |
14:03.32 | Grum_ | as well as tga ? |
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14:03.47 | Wobin | yeah... |
14:03.59 | Wobin | although, tbh... why? |
14:04.07 | Wobin | why do you need that much detail? |
14:04.16 | Grum_ | dismiss the minimap completely? :) |
14:04.24 | Saryai | See things that aren't on the world map? |
14:04.38 | Wobin | can't see it happening |
14:04.45 | Grum_ | why not? |
14:04.59 | Wobin | the minimap is there for a reason, a quick glance view of your direct surroundings |
14:05.26 | Wobin | if you have to pull up the main map, then zoom in for a section that only shows your direct surroundings with the information you need, why not just use the minimap? |
14:05.38 | Grum_ | so you can zoom out :) |
14:05.48 | Wobin | The herb nodes, etc, will only show up on the minimap |
14:05.50 | Grum_ | and see more! exact locations of nodes .. which damn side of the tree it is =D |
14:05.59 | Grum_ | but you can prolly zoom in further than the minimap can |
14:06.04 | Grum_ | because you can control it yourself |
14:06.06 | Grum_ | overlay stuff easier |
14:06.08 | Wobin | not from this wow map |
14:06.16 | Wobin | er |
14:06.17 | Wobin | no |
14:06.27 | Grum_ | not from the external page no :) |
14:06.29 | Wobin | The minimap zooms pretty fine as it is |
14:06.49 | Grum_ | then you wont download it! ;D |
14:07.14 | Wobin | sure, if you have problems seeing that you're -not- standing right on top of a node, then you need something like that... |
14:07.31 | Wobin | I've never had an issue figuring that out from the max minimap zoom |
14:07.32 | Grum_ | you can do more fun stuff |
14:07.36 | Wobin | like? |
14:07.41 | Grum_ | make overlays with spawnpoints of mobs |
14:07.56 | Wobin | You can do that now =P |
14:08.15 | Grum_ | yeah but you neved seen the roads ingame kinda not align with the roads on the worldmap? :) |
14:08.49 | Wobin | I honestly don't think it's a viable concept |
14:08.56 | Grum_ | now when you look for a questgiver you can see he is standing next to the inn instead of 'just a bit below the 'i' of menethil harbor! |
14:09.09 | Wobin | not with the amount of stitching you'd have to do with random md5hash numbers |
14:09.22 | Grum_ | make a script which stiches |
14:09.31 | Grum_ | and just have 1 bulk of tables in your script |
14:09.45 | Saryai | That's a lot of work. |
14:09.45 | Wobin | yeah, but you'd have to figure out which is attached to which |
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14:09.57 | Wobin | it's a lot of work for very little return |
14:09.58 | Grum_ | you can make an external program do the guessing of that |
14:10.05 | Grum_ | that is *really* easy :) |
14:10.05 | cncfanatics | Ominous, please tell me what u think of FB when u tried it |
14:10.05 | Wobin | how? |
14:10.05 | Saryai | Wobin: How would I go about temporarily storing an inbound chat message? |
14:10.18 | Grum_ | Wobin: by comparing the 2 edges of a patch |
14:10.21 | Ominous | cncfanatics: i need to get home first |
14:10.29 | Wobin | Just store it, any information not saved to a SV file gets dumped on a reloadui |
14:10.50 | Wobin | Grum: Write this program |
14:10.53 | Saryai | That's what I figured, but what would I be using to store it? |
14:10.59 | Wobin | and I'll admit it's possible =) |
14:11.02 | Wobin | anything |
14:11.18 | Grum_ | Wobin: lol .. |
14:11.19 | Wobin | addon.MyTempFilename = savemyvariablehere |
14:11.34 | Grum_ | it's not that hard .. i even *think* they might have some overlapping pixels ;) |
14:11.43 | Grum_ | just to make it easy to render :) |
14:11.54 | Wobin | Grum: Again, I say it's a lot of work for little result =P |
14:12.02 | Grum_ | you just have to do that work once |
14:12.02 | Wobin | but go right ahead |
14:12.12 | Grum_ | and likely, it's stored somewhere in the wow-data (clientside) as well |
14:12.13 | Gnarfoz | <Grum_> would be so cool to have the 'stitched together minimap display' as your worldmap <-- Yatlas |
14:12.32 | Grum_ | or i can just steal if from Yatlas |
14:13.45 | fireglow | anyone got a working Recount package? the most recent pack is bugged for me |
14:13.55 | Grum_ | hihi :D |
14:14.03 | Grum_ | Wobin: i can just steal it .. hehe |
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14:17.29 | [dRaCo] | fireglow: http://files.wowace.com/Recount/ |
14:17.50 | fireglow | ah ;D |
14:18.33 | fireglow | ty |
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14:35.57 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72119 - Someone wanna check that? |
14:36.26 | Saryai | I have no idea whether or not it's gonna work. |
14:41.40 | Saryai | GIR\Core.lua:47: 'then' expected near '=' - http://ace.pastey.net/72119 for the snippet. |
14:41.46 | Saryai | Grr. |
14:42.59 | JoshBorke | it's ~= not =~| |
14:43.07 | JoshBorke | have you read PIL or the Lua manual? |
14:45.29 | Saryai | Oops. |
14:45.37 | Saryai | Yes... Bit of a type there. =/ |
14:45.43 | Saryai | Typo. >.< |
14:45.50 | Amadeo | All I read was Curious George |
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14:55.16 | Saryai | >.< |
14:55.19 | Saryai | if arg6 == "stop" and arg7 ~= "ECHO" then rtbl[sender]=nil end |
14:55.41 | Saryai | '=' expected near 'if' |
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14:57.55 | cladhaire | the error is the line before that |
14:57.59 | cladhaire | is on, rather |
14:58.03 | Saryai | Yeah, just found it. |
14:58.25 | JoshBorke | what kind of formatting is that? |
14:58.30 | JoshBorke | coding style i mean |
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14:59.39 | Saryai | What, putting if/then on the same line? |
14:59.47 | JoshBorke | you have them on different lines |
14:59.52 | JoshBorke | and then the end is sometimes after everything |
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15:00.26 | Saryai | Just haven't cleaned it up yet |
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15:01.03 | Saryai | Been moving around and editing bits and pieces enough that I've left formatting pretty much on its own. |
15:01.16 | Saryai | Woot, errors squashed. |
15:01.26 | Saryai | Now to set the broadcaster... |
15:02.09 | cncfanatics | u know, formatting ur code, always, is a good way to get less errors |
15:02.43 | SaladFork | Why would you ever want to get less errors? |
15:03.36 | Saryai | Errors are fun. >.> |
15:03.45 | cncfanatics | hum |
15:03.51 | SaladFork | Errors are fantastic. Without them, how would you know what you were doing wrong? |
15:03.57 | Ominous | yes... |
15:04.09 | cncfanatics | I sometimes spend hours squashing logic or syntax errors in formatted code, cant immagine what it wld be in formatted code |
15:04.26 | Saryai | Going through and formatting everything now, since I've finally gotten the bugs squashed. |
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15:05.13 | Ominous | but seriously format as you type then you dont miss thens, ends etc |
15:05.46 | SaladFork | Haha, you should see my code, it's almost OCD. |
15:05.56 | SaladFork | I comment nearly every line, >.< |
15:06.17 | SaladFork | Let me rephrase |
15:06.24 | SaladFork | I add comments to nearly every line to explain what it does* |
15:07.21 | Grum_ | is there any way to 'delete' a frame? |
15:07.29 | Ominous | nope |
15:07.30 | Grum_ | or a line drawn by Graph-1.0 for that matter |
15:07.42 | Grum_ | but hiding will effectivly do the same? |
15:08.15 | Ominous | it will remain in memory until a reload ui |
15:08.19 | SaladFork | Hehe, we need Eraser-1.0 |
15:08.40 | Ominous | hence its important to reuse frames not just repeditly make them |
15:10.19 | Grum_ | humz but that might be hard if you move em around all the time hehe |
15:12.30 | cncfanatics | Ominous, when u going home ? :p |
15:12.32 | Fisker- | SAGE |
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15:13.27 | Ominous | cncfanatics: few hrs |
15:13.44 | Ominous | cncfanatics: WTB screenshots |
15:13.58 | cncfanatics | take some if u dont mind :) |
15:14.02 | cncfanatics | so I can put em on wiki ^^ |
15:14.28 | Ominous | bah but i wanna see some now :D |
15:14.37 | cncfanatics | nothing special yet looks wise |
15:14.44 | cncfanatics | I need to get my ass to code grouping now |
15:14.51 | Ominous | yes, yes you do |
15:15.15 | cncfanatics | gonna start working on it now |
15:16.32 | sb | cnc addon? |
15:16.43 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2 |
15:16.51 | cncfanatics | its in beta now |
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15:18.16 | sb | ah |
15:18.19 | sb | okay :o |
15:18.46 | cncfanatics | try it out & give me feedback if u want :p |
15:18.49 | cncfanatics | thats what I need right no |
15:18.51 | cncfanatics | now* |
15:18.59 | Saryai | Odd. |
15:19.00 | Saryai | function GIR:ReceiveMessage(prefix, sender, distribution, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7) |
15:19.00 | Saryai | if arg1 < version |
15:19.13 | Saryai | Attempt to compare nil with a number. |
15:19.22 | cncfanatics | version is , I supose a number |
15:19.28 | cncfanatics | and arg1 is not being passed, and is thus nil |
15:19.29 | Saryai | Yeah, it's set. |
15:19.31 | cncfanatics | include a sanity check |
15:19.42 | cncfanatics | if(type(arg1) == "number") then |
15:19.57 | Saryai | Alright. |
15:20.07 | SaladFork | Doest ReceiveMessage use strings? |
15:20.11 | SaladFork | So you'd have to use tonumber() |
15:20.19 | SaladFork | ? |
15:20.33 | cncfanatics | no idea there |
15:20.41 | SaladFork | Regardless, it wouldn't be nil |
15:20.44 | SaladFork | But something to consider |
15:21.38 | Saryai | Regardless, I was under the impression that strings were evaluated the same as numbers in a comparison. |
15:21.52 | SaladFork | Not when you're using > or < |
15:22.13 | Saryai | And now it's attempting to compare a boolean with a number. |
15:22.22 | Saryai | Ah, I see. |
15:22.43 | Saryai | Not seeing quite how I'd fix it, but I know what you mean. |
15:22.52 | SaladFork | Easily, use tonumber(arg1) |
15:22.58 | cncfanatics | arg1 = tonumber(arg1) |
15:23.07 | cncfanatics | then u check if(type(arg1) == "number") |
15:23.09 | cncfanatics | and then u continue |
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15:23.19 | SaladFork | cnc - that would be horribly redundant |
15:23.32 | SaladFork | You just converted it to a number, checking for it is just silly, =P |
15:23.41 | SaladFork | Try doing a nil check first, and if it's not nil, convert it to a number |
15:23.49 | SaladFork | And I think we can trust tonumber() to change it to a number type |
15:23.57 | Saryai | Snippet: |
15:23.57 | Saryai | function GIR:ReceiveMessage(prefix, sender, distribution, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7) |
15:23.57 | Saryai | arg1 = tonumber(arg1) |
15:23.57 | Saryai | if arg1 < version |
15:24.17 | Saryai | Since we just converted it, not worrying about the sanity check. |
15:24.36 | SaladFork | That should theoretically work. Check to make sure it's being passed right though |
15:24.37 | cncfanatics | SaladFork, u cant be sure it aint nil |
15:24.46 | Saryai | Yeah, checking ingame. |
15:24.46 | SaladFork | Cnc - that's why I said to do a nil check first, =P |
15:24.48 | cncfanatics | guess if(arg1) would do too |
15:25.09 | Saryai | Nil to a number first. Yeah, sanity check time. |
15:25.23 | SaladFork | Saryai - just have a self:Print("Arg1: "..arg1..", Arg2: "..arg2), and whatnot |
15:25.36 | SaladFork | Print doesn't care if it's a number or a string |
15:25.47 | SaladFork | Before you try working with your arguments, check to make sure you're getitng them, ;) |
15:25.59 | cncfanatics | SaladFork |
15:26.03 | SaladFork | Yep? |
15:26.07 | cncfanatics | self:Print("Arg1:", arg1, etc |
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15:26.12 | cncfanatics | would be safer to use , instead of .. |
15:26.14 | cncfanatics | in case they're nil |
15:26.23 | SaladFork | Ah, good point |
15:26.24 | SaladFork | Thanks |
15:26.32 | Saryai | Checking that now. |
15:26.38 | SaladFork | And I do apologize in advance, I've coded/scripting in several other languages, but I'm a Lua newbie |
15:26.43 | SaladFork | Just coded my first mini-addon last night |
15:26.58 | SaladFork | But tonumber() before a < or < was one of the first things I learnt, =D |
15:27.01 | SaladFork | < or >* |
15:27.39 | Saryai | To err is human. |
15:27.50 | Saryai | To really screw up requires a computer. |
15:28.11 | SaladFork | The best and worst parts about programming are the same: The computer does exactly what you tell it to. |
15:28.31 | Saryai | Bah... ')' expected near 'arg1' when doing that print. |
15:28.41 | Saryai | self:Print("Arg1:"arg1) is the line. |
15:28.46 | SaladFork | Add a comma |
15:28.53 | SaladFork | self:Print("Arg1: ",arg1) |
15:28.59 | SaladFork | Or concat it |
15:29.01 | Saryai | Ah. |
15:29.36 | Saryai | Typing too fast FTL. |
15:29.39 | SaladFork | hehe |
15:30.08 | Saryai | Yep, arg1 is being passed as nil. |
15:30.17 | SaladFork | Well, check your send function, ;) |
15:30.34 | Saryai | if ready == 1 |
15:30.34 | Saryai | then GIR.SendMessage(version, g1, g2, pname, ready, |
15:30.57 | SaladFork | Add in a self:Print before the .SendMessage() |
15:31.00 | SaladFork | And print out the variables |
15:31.04 | SaladFork | See if you're sending nil |
15:31.04 | Ominous | why dont you put if and then on the same line? |
15:31.08 | Curney | is there an svn admin around? |
15:31.18 | Saryai | Ominous: We've been through this. >.> |
15:31.37 | SaiBork | hey quys, question, why does "local _, repairCost = SetBagItem(bag, slot)" keep nagging about being a global and nil :( |
15:31.48 | SaladFork | !syntax SetBagItem |
15:31.55 | SaladFork | Damn, could have swon I saw someone doing that yesterday |
15:32.03 | SaladFork | sworn* |
15:32.27 | SaiBork | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetBagItem ;) |
15:32.42 | Saryai | Salad: http://ace.pastey.net/72120 |
15:32.43 | SaladFork | Anyone know the command for the IRC bot for syntax checking? =S |
15:32.48 | Ominous | !api SetBagItem |
15:32.49 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBagItem |
15:32.51 | SaladFork | Thanks Omi |
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15:32.56 | cncfanatics | SaladFork |
15:32.59 | cncfanatics | !api SetBagItem |
15:32.59 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: I just said that 11s ago. |
15:32.59 | Saryai | That's the sendmessage wrapper and the initial ready check. |
15:33.00 | SaladFork | Yeah? |
15:33.08 | SaladFork | Oh, thanks to you too, =D |
15:33.16 | SaladFork | Like I said, new to the chan/Lua |
15:33.40 | Ominous | SaiBork: as thats not how its used |
15:33.52 | SaladFork | Ahhh, a name-tabber! *gasp* |
15:33.58 | SaladFork | Oh wait, nvm |
15:34.15 | cncfanatics | Ominous, dont forget to screenshot when u try out please :) |
15:34.40 | SaiBork | well im busy with a sell value mod and i need to know if it has repaircost or not, also im not able to get the prices from the vendor, but i wanted to get this done first |
15:35.30 | SaiBork | local _, repairCost = tooltip:SetBagItem(bag, slot) doesnt work either, neither does self: or this: |
15:35.39 | SaladFork | Sai - I don't believe the WoW API tracks vendor costs unless you're at a vendor |
15:35.54 | SaiBork | i am at a vendor |
15:36.01 | SaladFork | That would help, >.< |
15:36.08 | Ominous | SaiBork: it has to be done from a frame which inherets GameTooltip |
15:36.12 | CIA-14 | 03elkano * r46354 10InventoryLib/InventoryLib-2.0/InventoryLib-2.0.lua: InventoryLib: fixed some stuff that was left broken :/ |
15:37.24 | Ominous | cncfanatics: ofc not |
15:37.53 | CIA-14 | 03sylvanaar * r46355 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fix wierd menu name regresssion eg. PratChatButtons->ChatButtons |
15:38.19 | cncfanatics | any other vulonteers to try out FB2 btw ? |
15:38.22 | cncfanatics | I badly need feedback |
15:38.37 | Saryai | Someone wanna take a look at this? Attempt to compare nil with a number, line 90. |
15:38.38 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72121 |
15:39.03 | Ominous | arg1 or version is nil |
15:39.09 | Saryai | It's arg1. |
15:39.10 | Ominous | just print them both before to see which is |
15:39.13 | Saryai | Trying to figure out why. |
15:39.33 | Ominous | is it nil before or after you tonumber it |
15:40.00 | Saryai | Hmm... Lemme check. |
15:40.22 | Saryai | Can't remember if it was a string or a nil before. |
15:40.41 | Saryai | It's nil before. |
15:41.23 | Ominous | might not help you are using GIR.SendMessage not GIR:SendMessage |
15:42.00 | Saryai | BAH |
15:42.02 | Saryai | >.< |
15:42.08 | Saryai | I thought I'd killed that. |
15:42.10 | Saryai | Thanks. |
15:42.26 | Saryai | There we go. |
15:42.28 | Saryai | Error-free. |
15:43.04 | SaladFork | WOAH |
15:43.25 | SaladFork | You know when you kill something and you see "XP : ###" pop up? |
15:43.31 | Saryai | yeah? |
15:43.55 | SaladFork | I just made a macro that uses XP as a variable name (through /script XP=whatever), and it changed that message |
15:44.05 | cncfanatics | Ominous, mind having a look at the code of FB ? its the first time I code with this style |
15:44.11 | Ominous | sure |
15:44.25 | SaladFork | XP is replaced with whatever my variable contains |
15:44.25 | SaladFork | o.O |
15:44.34 | Saryai | O_O |
15:44.37 | Ominous | cncfanatics: bah lots of ; |
15:44.50 | Saryai | Any actual change? |
15:44.55 | SaladFork | Saryai - yep |
15:44.59 | cncfanatics | Ominous, gonna check now ? :o |
15:45.08 | CIA-14 | 03syntherift * r46356 10cyCircled/plugins/Numen.lua: |
15:45.08 | CIA-14 | cyCircled: |
15:45.08 | CIA-14 | - Removed Numen support until i work the bugs out |
15:45.14 | SaladFork | /script XP=UnitXP("player"); |
15:45.22 | SaladFork | That's the first line of my macro |
15:45.26 | Ominous | cncfanatics: im looking at the code, do you code in a C based language as well? |
15:45.33 | SaladFork | And now whnever I get a kill, I get my exp in the message, XD |
15:45.38 | cncfanatics | I code in javascript & php too |
15:45.40 | cncfanatics | why ? :p |
15:45.44 | Saryai | Niice. |
15:45.51 | SaladFork | Cnc - I'm coming from a similar place oyu are |
15:45.56 | SaladFork | You don't use semicolons in Lua |
15:46.02 | Ominous | cncfanatics: the ; after every line |
15:46.05 | SaladFork | That bothers me so much, XD |
15:46.14 | cncfanatics | Ominous, old habyt that wont ever go away :) |
15:46.20 | Ominous | :) |
15:46.24 | cncfanatics | cant hurt using them either way, SaladFork |
15:46.36 | SaladFork | cnc - Realllllly? |
15:46.41 | Ominous | just like if(...) then isnt needed it can be if ... then |
15:46.48 | cncfanatics | SaladFork, if u feel like it yea |
15:46.50 | Ominous | no it dosent matter if you use em |
15:47.01 | SaladFork | I still have to get used to ~= instead of != |
15:47.03 | cncfanatics | I use the c++ syntax i'm used to |
15:47.25 | Ominous | ya ofc i can understand it wld be hard to change |
15:47.26 | SaladFork | Time to add semicolons to my code |
15:47.28 | SaladFork | You just made my day. |
15:47.40 | SaladFork | I really had to be very actively aware when I was coding to make sure I didn't add them, =P |
15:47.40 | Ominous | i started playing in java and gave up cos of semi colons |
15:48.09 | cncfanatics | I'm so used to them I dont even think about em |
15:48.11 | cncfanatics | I occasionaly forget one |
15:48.16 | cncfanatics | but it dsnt matter in lua :) |
15:48.20 | SaladFork | cnc, exactly, I had to really pay attention to make sure I didn't put them |
15:48.28 | SaladFork | /cheer |
15:48.30 | cncfanatics | :) |
15:48.44 | SaladFork | I even put semicolons when scripting in mIRC |
15:48.45 | SaladFork | lol |
15:48.59 | SaladFork | But that cost me, =( |
15:49.28 | SaladFork | Hey, is there a language filter on this chan? (as in, can I use not-child-friendly language?) = |
15:49.29 | SaladFork | =P |
15:49.58 | Saryai | I haven't cared to test that. >.> |
15:50.36 | SaladFork | 10110/21000 = 0.481429 |
15:50.36 | SaladFork | .calc 10110/21000 |
15:50.39 | SaladFork | Fantastic. |
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15:51.51 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how could I get a half transparent green frame over an existing frame? |
15:51.55 | SaladFork | (Feel free to use the script yourself guys, I have it set to detect your commands too) |
15:52.05 | cncfanatics | .calc 1/5 |
15:52.14 | cncfanatics | dsnt do anything -.- |
15:52.15 | SaladFork | Time to debug |
15:52.15 | SaladFork | wooo |
15:52.18 | SaladFork | Oh |
15:52.18 | SaladFork | try |
15:52.21 | SaladFork | 1 / 5 = 0.2 |
15:52.21 | SaladFork | .calc 1 / 5 |
15:52.33 | SaladFork | Actually, don't bother |
15:52.37 | SaladFork | I just fixed it so yours will owrk |
15:52.42 | cncfanatics | .calc 1/5 |
15:52.42 | SaladFork | 1/5 = 0.2 |
15:52.54 | SaladFork | I added a "$2 isnum" check to prevent people abusing it, but I guess I can trust you guys, ;) |
15:52.55 | cncfanatics | is that a lua parser ? |
15:52.56 | Saryai | Hmm. |
15:52.57 | cncfanatics | or just for maths ? |
15:53.02 | Saryai | Minor point of curiosity. |
15:53.25 | SaladFork | ON *:TEXT:*:#: { if ($1 == .calc) { msg active $2- = $calc($2-) } |
15:53.30 | cncfanatics | Ominous, what u thinking of the code ? I like most of it personaly :p except some parts of the core |
15:53.32 | Saryai | If I have g2 set as GIR.db.char.g2, and have an inheritance trigger set... |
15:53.49 | Saryai | What happens when I change g2? |
15:53.54 | Ominous | cncfanatics: i got destracted, its ALOT of code |
15:54.01 | cncfanatics | the core is pretty big |
15:54.03 | SaladFork | g2 ~= GIR.db.char.g2, I think |
15:54.06 | cncfanatics | but the modules are nicely small |
15:54.08 | SaladFork | they're probably independent of each other |
15:54.14 | Saryai | Would I want to change the db values directly in the case of inheritance? |
15:54.14 | SaladFork | oh, inheritence trigger |
15:54.15 | SaladFork | Ignore me |
15:54.36 | Saryai | Yeah. In other words, if I want to pass settings to another player. |
15:54.47 | Saryai | Addonmessage is sent, args give the vital settings. |
15:55.00 | SaladFork | Cnc - it's not a parser at all, it's mIRC script, =D |
15:55.12 | Saryai | Would I want to change the settings via db values, or could I get away with say, g2 = arg3 |
15:55.21 | cncfanatics | SaladFork, I'd love you for putting a lua parser behind that |
15:55.26 | cncfanatics | .lua <code> |
15:55.35 | SaladFork | And it would do what with it? |
15:55.55 | cncfanatics | I'd be able to test all my hardcoding for syntax errors :) |
15:56.00 | SaladFork | Ah, lol |
15:56.03 | Saryai | Eh. I'll just change the db values. |
15:56.07 | SaladFork | That would be a tad more complicated than just $calc($2-) |
15:56.12 | cncfanatics | !api CreateFrame |
15:56.13 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
15:56.16 | cncfanatics | it would indeed |
15:56.28 | Ominous | cncfanatics: you can test stuff for syntax errors |
15:56.43 | Ominous | cncfanatics: luac |
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15:56.55 | cncfanatics | if I can have access to luac I'll have access to wow too |
15:57.08 | cncfanatics | its for when i'm in a closed environment where I can't download shit but webpages |
15:57.30 | Ominous | put it on a memory pen |
15:57.32 | Ominous | ? |
15:57.41 | cncfanatics | no usb ports |
15:57.44 | cncfanatics | nor cdrom |
15:57.48 | SaladFork | Cnc - just telnet to a computer that has it |
15:57.48 | cncfanatics | nor disquette :p |
15:57.58 | cncfanatics | and I cant telnet out of my network either there |
15:58.04 | Ominous | oO |
15:58.09 | SaladFork | You have webpages, don't you? |
15:58.10 | cncfanatics | lovely fucked physical firewall |
15:58.13 | SaladFork | I'm sure there's a web-based telnet |
15:58.21 | cncfanatics | that might indeed |
15:58.26 | cncfanatics | could install webmin on this box |
15:58.32 | cncfanatics | and use webmin's javascript based shell |
15:58.48 | Ominous | but can |
15:58.50 | Ominous | oops |
15:58.59 | cncfanatics | Ominous, read code ! :p :) |
15:59.10 | Ominous | but but but... |
15:59.22 | cncfanatics | or actualy |
15:59.31 | Ominous | what do you want me to look for |
15:59.34 | cncfanatics | can u tell me how I can create a half transparent, draggable green colored frame ? |
15:59.41 | cncfanatics | I suck with CreateFrame :( |
15:59.44 | Ominous | erm ya |
16:00.08 | SaladFork | Hey guys, is it possible to create a way to drop+drop items onto a "dummy" such as your character screen? (and furthermore, grab stats from those items?) |
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16:00.52 | Ominous | cncfanatics: can you make a green frame? |
16:00.56 | cncfanatics | no |
16:01.12 | Ominous | i wld need to test what i did on wow |
16:01.13 | cncfanatics | heck, it took me hours & hours to get my buttons done correctly :( |
16:01.32 | CIA-14 | 03syntherift * r46357 10cyCircled/plugins/Numen.lua: |
16:01.32 | CIA-14 | cyCircled: |
16:01.32 | CIA-14 | - fixed error msg for Numen plugin |
16:01.43 | Funkeh` | loes |
16:01.47 | CIA-14 | 03syntherift * r46358 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
16:01.47 | CIA-14 | Numen: |
16:01.47 | CIA-14 | - fixed issue with scaling not being saved correctly |
16:01.51 | cncfanatics | Funkeh`is here |
16:01.59 | cncfanatics | Funkeh` what server u play on ? |
16:02.04 | cncfanatics | I got a guy called Funkey in my guild lol |
16:02.08 | cncfanatics | FUnkeh* |
16:02.22 | Funkeh` | arathor, AlAkir, SIlvermoon |
16:02.26 | Funkeh` | (EU) |
16:03.21 | cncfanatics | ok, not :p |
16:03.24 | cncfanatics | khadgar EU |
16:03.53 | cncfanatics | Ominous, I'd love you to check if my coding practices are good and I dont waste any CPU / memory :p first time I code heavely module based |
16:04.59 | Saryai | Yay basic chatbot functionality. Just need one bit of info. |
16:05.02 | Saryai | if broadcaster == 1 and string.find(msg, "gir.channel set ") |
16:05.17 | Saryai | Wondering how I'd pull a channel name from that same message. |
16:05.19 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46359 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua tags.lua): Relog - Adds a combat log display that can be swapped to |
16:05.52 | Saryai | So if someone in guild said "gir.channel set blueteam" it would change the addon's channel to blueteam. |
16:05.54 | Ominous | but if you have a single plane texture you can do something like frame = CreateFrame("Frame") frame.texture = frame:CreateTexture(nil, 'Overlay') frame.texture:SetVertexColor(0,1,0) frame.texture:SetAllPoints(frame) then set frame as movable and size etc |
16:06.19 | Ominous | oh and frame.texture:SetTexture("Path//To//Textue") |
16:06.24 | cncfanatics | thing is |
16:06.28 | cncfanatics | if the frame itself is clicked |
16:06.32 | cncfanatics | the action on it will be activated |
16:06.35 | cncfanatics | if there iso ne |
16:06.40 | cncfanatics | so I need an overlay that will catch the clicks |
16:06.47 | cncfanatics | its for dragging buttons |
16:06.50 | Ominous | oh |
16:06.51 | Ominous | i see |
16:07.31 | Saryai | Anyone? |
16:07.40 | Ominous | do that, but make the frame a higher level and then do frame:SetAllPoints(button) and frame(.texture?):SetAlpha(.5) |
16:08.07 | cncfanatics | what texture should I set that frame to ? |
16:08.16 | Ominous | erm that is a good question |
16:08.30 | Cryect | Use SetTexture(0,1,0) |
16:08.40 | Cryect | that will give you a green texture |
16:08.52 | cncfanatics | and how to set it semi transparent ? |
16:08.55 | Cryect | assuming you did want that solid green texture you were talking about |
16:09.03 | Cryect | add a forth number |
16:09.07 | Cryect | thats the alpha value |
16:09.11 | cncfanatics | okay |
16:09.12 | cncfanatics | lets try |
16:09.17 | Saryai | SetTexture(0,1,0,122) |
16:09.17 | sb | Cryect: uhm whats the next step? :p |
16:09.27 | Saryai | That'd be about half transparent if I remember. |
16:09.38 | Cryect | don;'t use 122 |
16:09.38 | cncfanatics | alpha is a 256 based value ? |
16:09.40 | Cryect | no |
16:09.48 | Saryai | Nope, was thinking 256. |
16:09.50 | xyu | what's the best leveling tree for warlock? |
16:09.51 | sb | Cryect: i'm thinking about implementing some options (fontsize and stuff) - but if thats your plan already... :o |
16:09.52 | Saryai | 0.5 for the last number. |
16:09.55 | xyu | solo leveling |
16:09.56 | SaladFork | Isn't alpha 0.0 to 1.0? |
16:10.07 | SaladFork | !api SetTexture |
16:10.08 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTexture |
16:10.13 | Saryai | Yeah, just remembered. Sorry, been a while since I tweaked alpha. |
16:10.26 | cncfanatics | SaladFork, SetTexture aint an api func its a widget method :p |
16:10.27 | SaladFork | xyu - Demo |
16:10.30 | Cryect | I'm planning to add a rudimentry console based options in and clean up so unnecessary code |
16:10.34 | Cryect | also more documentation |
16:10.34 | Saryai | !api string.find |
16:10.35 | SaladFork | Cnc - I'll figure it out eventually |
16:10.35 | ThraeBot | Saryai: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_string.find |
16:10.35 | xyu | thanks salad |
16:10.43 | Saryai | Doh. |
16:10.44 | Cryect | then think about how I want multipass filtering to work |
16:10.47 | cncfanatics | Texture:SetTexture("texturePath" or r, g, b[, a]) - Sets the texture to be displayed from a file or to a solid color. |
16:10.53 | SaladFork | xyu - want me to link you an example spec? |
16:10.59 | Ominous | cncfanatics: use SetAlpha |
16:11.15 | SaiBork | anybody knows an easy way to get prices from vendors? (or can tell me how to implement ItemPrice-1.0 so it will work?) |
16:11.23 | xyu | SaladFork: sure that'd be aweseome |
16:11.31 | sb | Cryect: hmm okay - so it wouldnt make any sense to implement options ;o |
16:11.33 | xyu | i havne't looked at any warlock talents since BC |
16:11.35 | SaladFork | Alright, let me fly my character to a safe place, one sec, =) |
16:11.36 | SaiBork | i found http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue, but thats not really helpfull |
16:11.52 | Ominous | cncfanatics: do Frame:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") where frame is the frame the texture is derived from |
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16:12.01 | Ominous | and it should be above your buttons |
16:12.12 | Dealman | Hey can I ask about LUA scripting for WoW here? =) |
16:12.46 | SaiBork | yep Dealman |
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16:12.54 | Dealman | Sweet, I got an question: |
16:13.02 | Ominous | we guessed |
16:13.03 | Dealman | Can I add custom portals via Lua? |
16:13.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
16:13.12 | cncfanatics | I'd also have to do frame:SetAllPoints(Button); ? |
16:13.21 | cncfanatics | if I want it to be over one of my button frames |
16:13.25 | Ominous | ya |
16:13.52 | Ominous | custom portals? |
16:13.52 | SaladFork | xyu - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrZbgIzIizcest |
16:13.54 | SaladFork | Just did that quickly |
16:13.58 | SaladFork | SO don't take it point for point |
16:14.01 | Cryect | sb: correct! :-p |
16:14.21 | Ominous | Dealman: custom portals? |
16:14.28 | Dealman | Ominous, like a portal from SW to Duskwood or Burning George |
16:14.29 | Cryect | sb: though what I actually want to finish first I think is bug fix seems to be an issue when it wraps |
16:14.29 | sb | Cryect: font size + style would be important ;p |
16:14.33 | Dealman | and you can spawn them ingame |
16:14.33 | Ominous | Dealman: rofl no |
16:14.34 | sb | hmm |
16:14.36 | Dealman | xD |
16:14.37 | sb | ah :) |
16:14.46 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72122 would do right ? |
16:14.48 | xyu | sweet thx salad, i'll check ito ut |
16:14.55 | xyu | wow i already messed up :P |
16:15.03 | xyu | i put my first point (i'm lvl 10) in improved imp |
16:15.05 | SaladFork | Well |
16:15.07 | SaladFork | The bottom line |
16:15.08 | xyu | lol |
16:15.11 | Cryect | sb: its actually possible to change them already you juts have to do /script Relog.db.profile.Font="whatever" etc :-p |
16:15.12 | SaladFork | Is stay away from Destro like the plague |
16:15.21 | SaladFork | It's only good at 70, and with good gear |
16:15.24 | Dealman | Ominous, you know a portal how to add custom portals to your private server? x) |
16:15.25 | xyu | ok |
16:15.36 | Dealman | I've been searching like an cookie monster searching for cookies >_<< |
16:15.36 | sb | Cryect: hm :o |
16:15.40 | SaladFork | And as demo, you'll be walking around with a Felguard at 51+, and a VWer before then |
16:15.44 | SaladFork | So improved. succy and improved imp are useless |
16:15.52 | xyu | true |
16:15.53 | cncfanatics | Afli for lvl'ing ftw ? |
16:16.41 | xyu | do i get voidwalker at 10? |
16:16.45 | SaladFork | Though impr. succy could be useful if you want slightly more reliable CC later on |
16:16.46 | SaladFork | Yep |
16:16.53 | SaladFork | You get soemthing every 10 levels, pretty much |
16:16.55 | xyu | ah i better go get it then lol |
16:17.08 | Dealman | ^-^ |
16:17.12 | Ominous | cncfanatics: i made a few changes |
16:17.21 | cncfanatics | mine doesnt work :( |
16:18.50 | Ominous | then you will have to add SetScripts for on drag which move the bar with it |
16:19.13 | Dealman | Hmm... try to change the 4 to 7 |
16:20.35 | SaiBork | euhm, guys? anyone knows how to implement ItemPrice? |
16:20.54 | Dealman | Yes |
16:20.59 | Dealman | But first you need to change 4 to 7 |
16:20.59 | Saryai | If I were to do a "if broadcaster == 1 and string.find(msg, "gir.channel set ")" and wanted to catch the next word, how would I do that? pil's not being incredibly helpful on that point. |
16:21.25 | Amadeo | Interesting |
16:21.26 | Amadeo | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7420-zMail.html |
16:22.15 | SaladFork | "i will write a intrduction for it but not now" |
16:22.15 | SaladFork | XD |
16:22.37 | AKX | Hmm, would there be use for more notification sounds for Parrot et al? |
16:22.48 | SaladFork | Yep |
16:22.58 | AKX | I could make some... |
16:23.08 | SaladFork | Or just use SharedMedia |
16:23.23 | AKX | Well, more sounds for SharedMedia then. |
16:24.28 | Saryai | Anyone? Little help on that search? |
16:24.55 | Ominous | cncfanatics: http://cnc.pastey.net/72126 is how bt3 does it |
16:25.53 | Ominous | http://cnc.pastey.net/72127* |
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16:26.44 | Dominous | xD |
16:26.44 | cncfanatics | Ominous, love |
16:27.07 | Ominous | cncfanatics: i addded a link the the bar class file |
16:27.11 | Ominous | brb |
16:27.38 | cncfanatics | Ominous, that doesnt tell me how it creates the frames |
16:27.42 | cncfanatics | only how it unlocks them :( |
16:28.00 | Dominous | To add them, change 4 to 7. Then press file, add - 7 |
16:28.37 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72122 is my current code and it dsnt make appear shit sadly :p |
16:31.56 | *** part/#wowace Dominous (i=Dealman@212.247.249.193) |
16:32.19 | SaiBork | so nobody knows anything about itemprice :( |
16:32.53 | Saryai | Nothin', sorry. |
16:32.59 | SaladFork | Sai, try looking at another addon that does what you want |
16:33.06 | cncfanatics | Ominous, nvm it works :p |
16:33.16 | SaiBork | they arent making any sence, thats the problem |
16:33.19 | SaladFork | May I recommend Fubar GarbageFu? |
16:34.29 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46360 10Relog/parse.lua: Relog - Fixes a bug when the combat log loops |
16:35.24 | Ominous | cncfanatics: back |
16:36.03 | SaladFork | Is there an Ace2'ed DamageMeters? |
16:36.08 | Ominous | Violation |
16:36.16 | SaladFork | Does it work for more than just the owner? |
16:36.25 | xyu | Violation, recount, and there's another |
16:36.29 | Cryect | wouldn't be much a damage meter |
16:36.35 | Cryect | if it only worked for the owner |
16:36.41 | Cryect | assessment |
16:36.45 | xyu | that's it |
16:36.49 | SaladFork | I think Recount is for personal dps tracking |
16:36.50 | cncfanatics | Ominous, its working |
16:36.57 | Ominous | cncfanatics: =D |
16:36.58 | cncfanatics | atm they're clickable-through , so I'm enabling mouse on em |
16:37.03 | ulic | SaladFork: Assessment |
16:37.09 | cncfanatics | now lets change how layout works |
16:37.10 | xyu | Recount works for me |
16:37.16 | Cryect | Recount isn't for personal dps tracking |
16:37.17 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna anchor all buttons to their dragger |
16:37.18 | ulic | oh cryect said that :) |
16:37.21 | xyu | tracks anyone in raid/group |
16:37.33 | SaladFork | *sigh* No Wiki page for it |
16:37.42 | Cryect | no wiki page for what? |
16:37.46 | SaladFork | Assessment |
16:37.58 | Cryect | Oh guess no one reput up the old one |
16:40.00 | SaiBork | bit late, but Recount is the best |
16:40.37 | SaladFork | I remember looking that up and seeing no mention of syncing between players |
16:40.43 | SaiBork | It tracks dps from full raids, but you can also click on the bars to see info about the attacks, so how many misses, how many crits, nice graphs and all |
16:40.50 | SaiBork | it has now |
16:40.55 | SaiBork | or it should have |
16:41.13 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount |
16:41.13 | SaladFork | .wiki Recount |
16:42.07 | Cryect | Recount syncs |
16:42.11 | SaladFork | Does it? |
16:42.15 | SaladFork | I'm considering getting it then |
16:42.17 | Cryect | I would hope I know |
16:42.25 | xyu | lol |
16:42.25 | Cryect | It only syncs with Recount users |
16:42.30 | SaladFork | Author Cryect |
16:42.31 | SaladFork | XD |
16:43.22 | Cryect | also both assessment and recount try to assign PoM to the correct priest, and Recount as well assigns lifeblooms and earthshields to the caster if they are running recount (unfortunately to get the info needed have to be that player) |
16:43.32 | SaladFork | Oh, awesome |
16:43.41 | SaladFork | Yeah, I tend to have the last say in my guild when it comes to what mods we use |
16:43.48 | SaladFork | We're using Omen for threat, and loving it (replacing KTM) |
16:43.56 | SaladFork | But the only replacement I could find for DamageMeters was SWStats |
16:43.57 | [dRaCo] | is there anything like += in lua? |
16:43.59 | Cryect | Recount, is a little heavy on memory usage though |
16:44.01 | SaladFork | And while I configured it and am using it |
16:44.03 | SaladFork | It's just....m essy |
16:44.13 | SaiBork | can also use recount for threat, cant you Cryect? |
16:44.18 | xyu | Is there a reason recounts damage in the numbers is always lower when compared to other dmg meters? is this just an accuracy issue of the other dmg meters? |
16:44.24 | xyu | i compared it to sws |
16:44.39 | Cryect | If you want, you can I don't use it personally for threat |
16:44.53 | Cryect | The damage numbers are normally spot on for me |
16:45.00 | Cryect | if you are the only one using it though |
16:45.02 | xyu | when comparing to other damage meters? |
16:45.05 | SaladFork | Cryect - is the title bar dynamic? |
16:45.06 | Cryect | it might not be that accurate |
16:45.09 | xyu | ah ok |
16:45.10 | SaiBork | i use omen for it though, just mentioning its possible |
16:45.27 | Cryect | the title bar isn't dynamic in teh sense no personal numbers (planning to add that though0 |
16:45.28 | xyu | yeah i'm the only one using it but other people are catching on. my guild is stubborn when it comes to addons |
16:46.04 | SaladFork | K, because the one thing I actually DID like about SWS (unlike everything else), is that I could set it to show damage info, and my DPS in the title bar |
16:46.04 | xyu | i tried to explain to a guy how to use outfitter, pretty easy mod, he got so frustrated he went back to itemrack |
16:46.09 | ccKep | how I looooooooove it |
16:46.11 | SaladFork | Thanks Cryect, downloading it now, =D |
16:46.11 | ccKep | 18:05'10.750Déie's Earth Shock resisted by Kael'thas Sunstrider |
16:46.11 | ccKep | 18:05'11.093Déie gains 15 Mana from Mana Spring of Mana Spring Totem V |
16:46.11 | ccKep | 18:05'12.703Kael'thas Sunstrider's Fireball hits Déie for 21971 Fire damage |
16:46.26 | ccKep | screw that... |
16:46.33 | nevcairiel | and whats wrong with that now? |
16:46.37 | nevcairiel | :P |
16:46.39 | ccKep | . |
16:46.42 | Cryect | get more +hit! |
16:46.49 | Cryect | or roll better numbers :-p |
16:46.50 | ccKep | dies TWICE in that kill |
16:46.59 | ccKep | thaladred double gaze |
16:47.13 | ccKep | combatrezz -> mana tide -> mana potion -> kael thas earth shock resist, fireball -> dead... |
16:47.15 | nevcairiel | even with double gaze its stupidity to die there :P |
16:47.30 | ccKep | solo healer on telonicus druid tank |
16:47.33 | SaladFork | .wau add Recount |
16:47.34 | SaladFork | .wau update |
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16:48.51 | SaladFork | .modman del SW_Stats SW_Stats_Profiles SW_UniLog |
16:48.57 | xyu | do i have to be dead to see death details? |
16:51.15 | ulic | it has to have recorded someone dying probably, you or party/raid memeber |
16:52.05 | xyu | well i've died, but it was like a half hour ago |
16:53.18 | ulic | not sure in recount, in assessment it keeps the data until you join a new party or reset it. It's possible it doesn't work if you're solo, dunno, just guessing. |
16:53.45 | SaladFork | Woah |
16:53.48 | SaladFork | Recount records per fight |
16:53.49 | SaladFork | and overall |
16:53.50 | SaladFork | and wow |
16:53.55 | SaladFork | Cryect, I'm officially converted |
16:53.58 | Ironhand | I just requested all quest notes from guild through Cartographer Quest Objectives and am now getting spammed semi-cryptic messages from one of my guildies - anything I can do to prevent that? (my cartographer is fairly recent) |
16:54.14 | omega | is it possible for an addon to modify the AH list? |
16:54.19 | SaladFork | Cryect - When you reset stats, does it reset for all synced members? |
16:54.26 | omega | I would like to see on recipes what skill they require |
16:54.38 | omega | by for instance replacing the lvl column |
16:55.19 | cncfanatics | yay, my reset code works PERFECTLY, it rocks :) |
16:55.34 | Saryai | if string.find(msg, "^",g2,"%[") - bad argument #3 to 'find' (number expected, got table) |
16:56.08 | Saryai | That line SHOULD be searching for variable g2 with a bracket after it. |
16:57.20 | SaladFork | Oh yuck |
16:57.36 | SaladFork | Changing the ittle color for Recount hcanges the background color for the config window |
16:57.37 | SaladFork | XD |
16:57.40 | Saryai | SaladFork, can you help? >.> |
16:57.40 | SaladFork | title* |
16:57.48 | [dRaCo] | string concat in lua is .., not , |
16:57.49 | SaladFork | Sar - sure, got a link to the string.find syntax? |
16:58.08 | Saryai | Eh, it was giving me a concat error before. |
16:58.15 | Saryai | Took it out to see. |
16:58.44 | [dRaCo] | string.find(msg, "^" .. g2 .. "%[") |
16:59.07 | Saryai | Trying. |
16:59.36 | cncfanatics | make sure g2 exists before trying |
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17:07.02 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r46361 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (4 files): FuBar_GroupFu: updated zhTW localization |
17:07.36 | SaladFork | Hey Cryect - you take requests? =P |
17:07.58 | ulic | he's not a lounge singer :) |
17:08.11 | SaladFork | He was here a bit earlier, *shrug* |
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17:12.16 | Saryai | GIR\Core.lua:41: attempt to index field 'char' (a nil value) ...GAH! |
17:12.21 | Cryect | hmmm? |
17:12.34 | SaladFork | There you are, =P |
17:12.39 | SaladFork | You take requests/suggestions? |
17:12.48 | Cryect | Sure but won't guarantee anything :-p |
17:12.53 | SaladFork | Hehe, of course |
17:12.58 | SaiBork | !seen bam |
17:13.01 | SaladFork | Well, for one, and most urgently, some way to lock the Config window |
17:13.15 | Cryect | Why do you want to lock the config window? |
17:13.19 | SaladFork | errr |
17:13.20 | SaladFork | the main window* |
17:13.25 | Cryect | do /recount lock |
17:13.40 | SaladFork | Okay, slash comands, =P |
17:14.07 | SaladFork | Second, would it be possible to separate the title/background colors for the main/config windows? |
17:14.18 | SaladFork | I like my damage meters background transparent, but that makes the config... annoyign to use |
17:14.46 | Cryect | Hmmm that be somewhat hard due to the way its implemented :-p |
17:14.51 | Cryect | But I know what you mean |
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17:15.00 | SaladFork | =) |
17:15.02 | SaladFork | And finally |
17:15.10 | SaladFork | Configure what ear row in the main window actually shows |
17:15.23 | SaladFork | For example, since it orders by damage, I really don't need to see the rank ("1.", "2.", etc.) |
17:15.30 | SaladFork | each* |
17:15.36 | SaladFork | Wow, my typing's getting worse |
17:15.40 | Cryect | Yeah, I like to add that in |
17:15.51 | Cryect | just been doing other things |
17:16.27 | SaladFork | Hmm |
17:16.30 | cncfanatics | ~sene NArgiddley |
17:16.31 | Saryai | Alright... |
17:16.33 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72128 |
17:16.35 | SaladFork | Perhaps a "short name" version for the title of the main window |
17:16.40 | SaladFork | Like I have a thin damage window |
17:16.41 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, please gimme a shout when ur around |
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17:16.43 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
17:16.45 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 45m 18s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics, try that'. |
17:16.49 | Saryai | That's what I have... Now apparently it's not saving those defaults, at all. |
17:16.51 | cncfanatics | found a slightly anoying bug |
17:17.01 | SaladFork | Cryect - because mine's thin, "Damage Done" is overlapped by the buttons |
17:17.03 | Saryai | And because of that I can't do much more with it. |
17:17.04 | SaladFork | Which isn't a huge issue |
17:17.12 | SaladFork | Since i can right click to change/view what I have, and the buttons I use are on top |
17:17.22 | SaladFork | But just something to consider, =) |
17:17.24 | SaladFork | Other than that, great job |
17:17.25 | Cryect | yep |
17:17.26 | SaladFork | You have me converted |
17:17.51 | Saryai | Salad, mind checking that code? You're better than I am at this. >.> |
17:18.16 | SaladFork | Sar - I've only ever written one piece of Lua code, and it was last night |
17:18.22 | SaladFork | I'm just as much, if not more, of a newbie at this than you are |
17:18.37 | Saryai | You've got more programming experience. And the pil. |
17:18.41 | SaladFork | lol |
17:18.43 | SaladFork | "pil"? |
17:18.48 | Saryai | ~pil |
17:18.48 | purl | methinks pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
17:18.58 | SaladFork | Haha |
17:19.05 | SaladFork | No, I can't say I have it |
17:19.10 | Saryai | Clicky. |
17:19.10 | SaladFork | I just have WowWiki, WowAce, and Google |
17:19.11 | SaladFork | =) |
17:19.12 | Saryai | It's good stuff. |
17:19.28 | SaladFork | I learnt best from watching |
17:19.41 | SaladFork | I learnt the Lua syntax and such from fixing addons to work how I wanted them to |
17:19.50 | Saryai | Then fix this one. ^_^ |
17:19.50 | SaladFork | But I'll bookmark that, ty, =) |
17:19.55 | Saryai | That's about how I work. |
17:20.01 | SaladFork | Sar - what's broken? |
17:20.16 | Saryai | Savedvars apparently aren't defaulting. |
17:20.26 | SaladFork | Mind rephrasing that? |
17:20.29 | SaladFork | Not sure I understand |
17:20.32 | SaiBork | no custom portals are still not possible :P |
17:20.33 | Saryai | Got the code pulled up? |
17:20.41 | SaladFork | Yep |
17:20.44 | SaiBork | ok, i did not send that :S |
17:20.47 | SaiBork | snet* |
17:20.54 | Saryai | Line 5, GIR:RegisterDefaults |
17:21.06 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r46362 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: minor cleanup |
17:21.15 | Saryai | That's setting the default channel and g1/g2 which are the guilds to relay between. |
17:21.16 | SaladFork | hmm |
17:21.26 | SaladFork | Sar - you try using AceDB-2.0? |
17:21.36 | SaladFork | That's what I used for profiling / saving defaults, and it worked 100% |
17:21.58 | SaiBork | anyone has ever seen Bam/BamED in this channel? |
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17:22.06 | Saryai | I was under the impression that I was already using it. |
17:22.10 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46363 10FlexBar2/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
17:22.10 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
17:22.10 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
17:22.10 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
17:22.10 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
17:22.11 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua: |
17:22.12 | SaladFork | Oh, you are |
17:22.13 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
17:22.20 | SaladFork | Just drinking my Mountain Dew now, the caffiene will kick in shortly |
17:22.21 | SaladFork | >.< |
17:22.23 | Saryai | Gimme a snippet that's worked for you? |
17:22.27 | Saryai | Heh. |
17:22.40 | Saryai | I've got a feeling that the code I have is a bit off. |
17:22.49 | SaladFork | It looks off |
17:22.50 | Saryai | Also: GIR\Core.lua:41: attempt to index field 'char' (a nil value) |
17:22.54 | SaladFork | Is "XX" a variable name? |
17:23.02 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46364 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Disabled debugging |
17:23.21 | Saryai | It's a value. The addon isn't meant to work out of the box. |
17:23.33 | Saryai | Just need something to fill in till it's set up. |
17:23.35 | SaladFork | Ah, okay |
17:23.42 | SaladFork | Sar - I used self.db.profile for mine |
17:23.51 | SaladFork | And :RegisterDefaults("profile", |
17:23.54 | Saryai | I've tried both ways. |
17:24.25 | Saryai | Using profile would produce some weird results anyway. |
17:24.41 | SaladFork | Hmm |
17:24.47 | Saryai | Think about it - What if you had more than one guild? |
17:24.52 | SaladFork | Would it help you if I sent you my addon? |
17:24.55 | SaladFork | It's relatively short and simple |
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17:25.01 | Saryai | Pastey it. |
17:25.05 | SaladFork | Core? |
17:25.10 | Saryai | Yeah. |
17:25.18 | SaladFork | K, it's 100% unreleased |
17:25.19 | SaladFork | so sshhhh |
17:25.23 | Saryai | No worries. |
17:25.36 | SaiBork | bah, im stuck |
17:26.03 | SaladFork | Sar - http://ace.pastey.net/72129 |
17:26.12 | SaladFork | (Give a noob a break if I made some silly mistakes) |
17:26.28 | Saryai | Actually, first thing I noticed... |
17:26.31 | SaladFork | ? |
17:26.35 | Saryai | Your defaults are a table. |
17:26.41 | Saryai | I tried that, it won't work for me... |
17:26.41 | cncfanatics | heh,time to ask this again , any volonteers to test flexbar ? (a) |
17:26.43 | SaladFork | A nil table |
17:26.50 | Saryai | Yeah. |
17:27.06 | Saryai | That's what mine were before I started getting concat errors because they were tables. |
17:27.10 | SaladFork | Yeah, I got the idea from Farmerfu |
17:27.16 | AKX | Is WAU working now? |
17:27.24 | Saryai | It wasn't before? |
17:27.36 | AKX | Someone's saying it isn't working for them now, heh. |
17:27.37 | SaladFork | Sar - http://ace.pastey.net/72130 |
17:27.41 | SaladFork | That's FarmerFu's defaults |
17:27.47 | SaladFork | I got the way I did it from that |
17:28.07 | Saryai | Alright. I can work with that. |
17:28.13 | Saryai | Now... |
17:28.42 | Saryai | How did you get the addon to NOT throw "attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value)" at you? |
17:28.56 | SaladFork | I never got such an error |
17:29.01 | Saryai | Strange. |
17:29.02 | SaladFork | Um |
17:29.08 | SaladFork | Yeah |
17:29.13 | SaladFork | If you can paste some code that does |
17:29.15 | SaladFork | I may be able to find out why |
17:29.15 | SaladFork | =) |
17:29.27 | Saryai | Line 41 in mine. |
17:29.33 | mitch0 | hm. eu-ptr is kinda shakey now :( |
17:29.35 | SaladFork | --Main relay function. |
17:29.36 | Saryai | Replace 'profile' with 'self' |
17:29.40 | SaladFork | That's what it's showing for line 41 |
17:29.48 | SaladFork | I'm viewing http://ace.pastey.net/72128 |
17:29.53 | Saryai | Oh. |
17:30.03 | Saryai | I think I hit an extra enter in there somewhere. |
17:30.05 | Saryai | Sec |
17:31.11 | SaladFork | No rush |
17:31.15 | Saryai | Alright... Not getting that anymore. |
17:31.30 | Saryai | Looks like I hadn't done a reloadui from my previous fix. |
17:31.35 | SaladFork | heh |
17:31.36 | SaladFork | Yay |
17:31.51 | Saryai | Alright. |
17:32.00 | Saryai | So, as soon as I try sending a guild message. |
17:32.13 | Saryai | GIR-10001\Core.lua:44: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'g2' (a nil value) |
17:32.27 | Saryai | g2 should already be set by the defaults. |
17:32.46 | SaladFork | It obviously wasn't |
17:33.13 | Saryai | Aye. |
17:33.15 | Saryai | So... |
17:33.19 | Saryai | Why is it not set? |
17:34.01 | SaladFork | g2 = GIR.db.char.g2 |
17:34.09 | SaladFork | Are you sure GIR.db.char.g2 is ~nil? |
17:35.01 | Saryai | That's what the defaults are for. |
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17:35.15 | SaladFork | Well, if your character saved GIR.db.char.g2 before the defaults were there.... |
17:35.30 | Saryai | Hmm. |
17:35.32 | Silviu- | Funkeh` wtb Black temple map ;p maybe + bosses :P ah and bosses & loot on Hyjal pls ;p |
17:35.41 | Silviu- | Funkeh` ( Cartographer ) |
17:35.42 | Silviu- | ;) |
17:35.51 | Saryai | Might be able to do something about that. |
17:36.04 | [LS]Zo | Anyone know how i can get rid of the POM-spam by recount? |
17:36.21 | SaladFork | ~pom |
17:36.22 | purl | it has been said that pom is Phase Of Moon, if you live in emacs-ville :) |
17:36.34 | SaladFork | ? |
17:36.45 | [LS]Zo | Prayer of Mending |
17:36.55 | SaladFork | Hehe |
17:37.01 | Cryect | [LS]Zo upgradee |
17:37.02 | [LS]Zo | Spams my chat every time a POM jumps |
17:37.05 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72132 |
17:37.11 | [LS]Zo | and i'm raiding with 3 hioly priests >_> |
17:37.15 | SaladFork | hahahaha |
17:37.16 | Cryect | the latest version doesn't have that :-p |
17:37.18 | Saryai | XD |
17:37.29 | Saryai | Alright. |
17:37.34 | [LS]Zo | ok |
17:37.53 | [LS]Zo | updated earlier today, but then my chat disappeared... |
17:37.54 | Saryai | Whoops... Sec, new pastey coming. |
17:38.04 | Cryect | you chat disappeared? |
17:38.04 | SaladFork | What's the in-game /script command to echo something? >.< |
17:38.20 | Saryai | There. |
17:38.24 | Cryect | It doesn't touch anything to do with chat so thats strange |
17:38.26 | Saryai | http://ace.pastey.net/72133 |
17:38.35 | sedai| | like %t? |
17:39.16 | Saryai | Moved those settings down to a little after the addon's loaded. That'll give some time for the database. |
17:40.02 | SaladFork | Anyone? |
17:40.38 | Saryai | Umm... |
17:41.00 | Saryai | ./script self.Print(" |
17:41.04 | Saryai | Maybe? |
17:41.14 | SaladFork | attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
17:41.22 | SaladFork | self:Print returns the same error |
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17:41.49 | Saryai | Dunno. |
17:41.50 | cncfanatics | SaladFork |
17:41.54 | SaladFork | yeah cnc? |
17:41.59 | cncfanatics | in what code ? |
17:42.04 | SaladFork | No code, in-game |
17:42.05 | SaladFork | Through /script |
17:42.11 | cncfanatics | what did u type ? p |
17:42.21 | SaladFork | /script self:Print("Hello!") |
17:42.26 | cncfanatics | ofc it dsnt work |
17:42.33 | PProvost | WHo is self in that sentence? |
17:42.35 | cncfanatics | why would that work ? :p |
17:42.43 | Grum_ | Why is baggins broken! |
17:42.44 | Grum_ | GAH! |
17:42.47 | SaladFork | cnc - I tried print(), Print(), echo(), Echo() |
17:42.51 | SaladFork | What _does_ work? |
17:43.00 | PProvost | I've used this... |
17:43.12 | Grum_ | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("text") works ;) |
17:43.13 | PProvost | <PROTECTED> |
17:43.32 | SaladFork | Hehe |
17:43.33 | SaladFork | we're such cheaters |
17:43.40 | cncfanatics | if u want to print something |
17:43.47 | cncfanatics | u have to do ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello"); |
17:43.49 | cncfanatics | thats without ace |
17:43.52 | Grum_ | yup |
17:43.56 | SaladFork | I'll go with PProvost's method, =D |
17:43.57 | Grum_ | but who hasn't got ace?! |
17:44.03 | SaladFork | It's just for local use |
17:44.07 | SaladFork | I'm trying to echo some variables |
17:44.12 | Grum_ | for local use? |
17:44.15 | SaladFork | I've been using SendChatMessage(), =P |
17:44.15 | Grum_ | you are making an addon? |
17:44.20 | SaladFork | Grum - Have been for a while |
17:44.23 | SaladFork | I'm just having fun now |
17:44.24 | Grum_ | then just include the AceConsole-2.0 mixin |
17:44.29 | SaladFork | Grum - this is in-game |
17:44.37 | Grum_ | oh |
17:44.41 | SaladFork | I'm trying ot just print a variable to my chat window |
17:44.43 | SaladFork | In-game |
17:44.43 | SaladFork | that's it |
17:44.47 | Grum_ | well if you have ace AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("text") will always work |
17:44.49 | PProvost | Or write an "addon" that defines a global print() function. I did that too. |
17:44.52 | SaladFork | Haha |
17:44.55 | Grum_ | and if you have AceConsole-2.0 loaded |
17:45.00 | Grum_ | you can also do /print text |
17:45.04 | SaladFork | And most games let you use "print Hi!" or "echo hi!" |
17:45.04 | PProvost | And besides, doesn't /print work? |
17:45.12 | SaladFork | OMG |
17:45.13 | SaladFork | TY |
17:45.16 | SaladFork | That's what I was looking for |
17:45.20 | SaladFork | Took you guys long enough |
17:45.21 | PProvost | That is Ace btw |
17:45.28 | Grum_ | it is AceConsole :) |
17:45.41 | Grum_ | you never said it was from the chat window! ;D |
17:45.42 | PProvost | So it will work if any addon had loaded AceConsole |
17:45.56 | SaladFork | Which considering my large stash of Ace mods, it has |
17:45.59 | SaladFork | Ty |
17:46.02 | PProvost | der u go |
17:46.05 | SaladFork | /print was exactly what I was looking for |
17:46.38 | PProvost | I use it all the time for stupid things like quick math problems, printing state of stuff, etc. |
17:46.43 | SaladFork | This is why being a newbie is better than being an expert |
17:46.47 | SaladFork | Everyone can answer your questions, =D |
17:46.49 | Saryai | Hehe. |
17:46.59 | SaladFork | PProvost - I use mIRC for all my lazy stuff |
17:47.01 | SaladFork | 1 + 1 = 2 |
17:47.02 | SaladFork | .calc 1 + 1 |
17:47.06 | SaladFork | .wau update |
17:47.08 | SaladFork | etc, etc |
17:47.17 | Salad`Brb | .brb |
17:47.18 | SaladFork | .back |
17:47.20 | PProvost | But I'm in the game, so /print 1+1 |
17:47.30 | SaladFork | Uh oh |
17:47.31 | SaladFork | .id |
17:47.33 | SaladFork | =) |
17:47.40 | SaladFork | I have dual monitor |
17:47.43 | SaladFork | Game in one, mIRC in the other |
17:47.45 | SaladFork | =D |
17:48.00 | PProvost | Still a task switch and I'm even lazier than that |
17:48.00 | SaladFork | Anywhere, where was I |
17:48.11 | Grum_ | in #wowace |
17:48.17 | SaiBork | yeah getting help |
17:48.19 | SaladFork | Sar |
17:48.21 | SaiBork | wish i had some :P |
17:48.21 | PProvost | asking about printing stuff |
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17:48.27 | SaladFork | Type /print GIR.db.char.g2 |
17:48.31 | SaladFork | See if it's nil or not |
17:49.38 | SaladFork | Sai - with? |
17:50.09 | SaiBork | getting those stupid values from a vendor |
17:50.12 | SaladFork | PProvost - you just reminded me to check myself |
17:50.14 | SaladFork | Based on the uptime of my WinXP box, e-Penis is 16.18 inches (41.09 cm) erect! Largest erection ever was 25.5 inches (64.76 cm)! |
17:50.15 | SaladFork | .epenis |
17:50.18 | Ominous | any forum admins here? |
17:50.40 | SaladFork | Sai - I think someone was asking about that last night and they were told they'd have to scan the tooltip |
17:50.53 | SaladFork | But Sai, why don't you check another addon that does it, like GarbageFu? |
17:51.31 | SaiBork | another one i could check, from all other i did check, it didnt make any sence |
17:51.51 | PProvost | I've seen issues between them all. KInda annoying. |
17:52.29 | SaiBork | well, getting the data from my saved files is working out perfectly |
17:52.49 | SaiBork | and also checking if an item is damaged, so it doesnt have to scan |
17:53.00 | SaiBork | its just getting the value itself that is the problem |
17:53.18 | SaladFork | GarbageFu didn't help? |
17:53.38 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r46365 10BigWigs_AQ40/BugFamily.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: update zhCN local |
17:54.16 | SaiBork | havent checked that one yet, just got it, will check now |
17:54.17 | SaladFork | Have you tried using the Auctioneer API and borrowing the data from that? |
17:54.27 | SaladFork | GarbageFu is great, =) |
17:54.28 | SaiBork | informant is a mess |
17:54.36 | SaiBork | informant is HUGE with code |
17:54.41 | SaladFork | I figured as much |
17:55.06 | SaladFork | function GarbageFu:GetVendorValue(item) |
17:55.07 | SaladFork | That might be it |
17:55.20 | SaladFork | function GarbageFu:GetInformantVendorPrice(item) |
17:55.25 | SaladFork | function GarbageFu:GetWoWEconVendorPrice(item) |
17:55.28 | SaladFork | function GarbageFu:GetPriceMasterVendorPrice(item) |
17:55.29 | SaladFork | =D |
17:55.38 | SaladFork | There's a whole .lua full of 'em |
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17:56.23 | SaladFork | Hiya ck |
17:57.36 | mitch0 | stupid ppl come to the ptr to gank at IF... can't test |
17:58.04 | SaiBork | its back up |
17:58.21 | SaladFork | Sai - getting anything good from GarbageFu? |
17:59.08 | SaiBork | not yet |
17:59.18 | SaiBork | busy with checking something now |
18:00.03 | SaiBork | ok gonna check it now |
18:00.14 | Funkeh` | Silviu-: soon (tm) |
18:01.22 | SaladFork | SaiBork - try GarbageFu_Vendor.lua |
18:02.59 | charon | "Antagonist-42180\Antagonist.lua:553: attempt to concatenate local 'unit' (a nil value)" |
18:03.15 | Garoun|Loupana | ncie automaton has druid unshifting added :P now if they just fix flight form :) |
18:03.15 | charon | that's funny. i don't even have anything antagonist related running, except the addon is loaded (forgot to turn it off) |
18:03.31 | Garoun|Loupana | it doesn't currently unshift you from flightform like EzDismount does |
18:04.16 | SaladFork | Lol @ lazy druids |
18:04.18 | SaiBork | pfft, garbagefu makes no sence either |
18:04.23 | SaiBork | maybe i should just give up |
18:05.10 | SaiBork | why cant they just make it simple, like im trying to... |
18:06.29 | Ominous | cncfanatics: im off home now, ill be there in about 90mins |
18:06.49 | Garoun|Loupana | no saladfork, the 'defualt' method blizzard uses is completely stupid |
18:07.08 | SaladFork | Garoun - I'm talking about being too lazy to unshift |
18:07.20 | SaladFork | I have a druid, and I just unshift when I want to do something in caster form |
18:07.59 | Garoun|Loupana | I undesrtand that |
18:08.11 | Garoun|Loupana | I use it so I can hit ANY form key to go to caster |
18:08.19 | SaladFork | Garoun - Me too |
18:08.21 | Garoun|Loupana | there's no reason I should have to click the same form I'm in to shfit to caster |
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18:08.29 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46366 10Relog/ (7 files): |
18:08.29 | CIA-14 | Relog - Removes old file |
18:08.29 | CIA-14 | - Adds time to log display |
18:08.35 | SaladFork | Garoun - I agree with you completely |
18:08.38 | SaladFork | I have a keybound macro for that |
18:08.38 | Garoun|Loupana | blizzard forces you to click the form you're in |
18:08.40 | SaladFork | 1-line macro, lol |
18:08.49 | SaladFork | Well 2, for a nice #showtooltip |
18:08.53 | SaladFork | #show, rather |
18:09.19 | SaladFork | I have macros for all my shape shifts |
18:09.45 | SaladFork | Which is basically "If I'm not in any form, shift to this form. If I'm in a form other than this one, unshift. If I'm in this one. do nothing" |
18:09.49 | SaladFork | So I can spam the shift I want |
18:09.56 | SaladFork | And then I have one that's just "If I'm in a stance, unshift." |
18:10.27 | weab | Garoun|Loupana: it's intentional |
18:10.27 | Garoun|Loupana | but creating a macro requires you to waste another actionbar :P |
18:10.36 | SaladFork | I use a hidden Bartender bar |
18:10.46 | weab | why the hell would you want to automatically shift out of flight form while you're in flight |
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18:11.01 | Garoun|Loupana | with automaton and ezdismount if I'm in bear I can click cat twice and be in cat |
18:11.12 | SaladFork | Garoun - i can do it without your two addons |
18:11.15 | SaladFork | I just hit Shift-2 twice |
18:11.15 | SaladFork | =) |
18:11.19 | weab | what does that have to do with my question |
18:11.33 | SaladFork | Garoun - want my macros? |
18:11.49 | Garoun|Loupana | no :P a lot of people use the macro |
18:11.59 | SaladFork | Suit yourself, =) |
18:12.28 | Garoun|Loupana | I mainly use the flight shift for when i'm doing a dropbear or shifting into cat and stealthing before I land :) |
18:12.57 | weab | then you can edit the code by hand and remove the if not IsFlying() |
18:12.59 | Garoun|Loupana | of course I also make it a point to not go near my keys when I'm flying uless I want to drop |
18:13.15 | weab | the rest of us don't want to accidentally press a key and fall to our death |
18:13.48 | SaladFork | Weab - either way the script is, someone will complian, XD |
18:13.52 | Garoun|Loupana | that's perfectly fine, I had tweaked ez to give the option of off or on :) |
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18:14.39 | Garoun|Loupana | I just despise the macro method because it's not natural :) but that's my opinion |
18:15.02 | weab | natural? |
18:15.07 | Garoun|Loupana | I started out playing a warrior |
18:15.20 | Garoun|Loupana | when I wanted to chance a stance or something I clicked the button I wanted to go to and went there |
18:15.33 | SaladFork | Ah, you're a clicker. |
18:15.36 | Garoun|Loupana | with druid you have to click the form your in, then click where you want to go |
18:15.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I do both |
18:16.03 | hazen | looks like public access to the Trac Timeline has been removed. any way i can get a Trac login with permission to view this? |
18:16.05 | Garoun|Loupana | depends on what I'm doing at the time |
18:16.17 | SaladFork | Are you trying to tell me you can't spare an action bar Garoun? |
18:16.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm trying to say I shouldn't need one :P |
18:16.34 | SaladFork | Garoun - That's Blizz |
18:16.51 | Garoun|Loupana | I'd rather use a backend script to correct what I consider a poor method, then creating a new bar and macros :) |
18:16.55 | Garoun|Loupana | it's all preference |
18:17.08 | SaladFork | Yes it is |
18:17.43 | Garoun|Loupana | was funny during beta because I couldn't play my druid while forced to shift the default way |
18:17.50 | Garoun|Loupana | it was actually painful for me :P |
18:18.02 | SaladFork | Why, no addons in PTR? |
18:18.18 | Garoun|Loupana | during beta there wasn't a shift addon ready at the stage I was in |
18:18.23 | SaladFork | Oh |
18:18.41 | Garoun|Loupana | thankfully Iriel gave us the stanceheaders example and all was well again :P |
18:18.51 | SaladFork | I'm going to stick with my very original comment of "lol @ lazy druids" |
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18:19.06 | SaladFork | Actually, you're a druid |
18:19.08 | SaladFork | I've been meaning to ask |
18:19.13 | SaladFork | Is there a good addon to keep track of your mana when shifted? |
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18:19.18 | weab | not really lazy druids |
18:19.19 | SaladFork | I tried DruidBar, but it was horribly inaccurate |
18:19.20 | Garoun|Loupana | Smartycat |
18:19.28 | SaladFork | Ace2? |
18:19.35 | NightHawkTheSane | does it matter? |
18:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | (the answer is no, btw) |
18:19.44 | SaladFork | I need to download it from somewhere |
18:19.46 | Garoun|Loupana | I use to use Druidbar |
18:19.47 | SaladFork | I'd have to know where to search for it |
18:19.52 | ckknight | SaladFork: what about PitBull? |
18:19.56 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the question isthen "where can i get it?" |
18:19.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
18:20.04 | SaladFork | ck - I don't need a whole unit frames mod, I have X-Perl |
18:20.08 | Garoun|Loupana | now I use SmartyCat and SmartyCatManabar |
18:20.09 | SaladFork | I just need something to keep track of my mana |
18:20.12 | ckknight | *shrug* |
18:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Garoun|Loupana: actually, what druid-specific addons do you use/recommend? |
18:20.20 | ckknight | I put the druid mana dealy into PitBull |
18:20.24 | SaladFork | Where can I get it? |
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18:20.33 | Cyrez | Pitbull is modular... You don't need to use all of it. |
18:20.41 | Garoun|Loupana | I don't really use many druid specific |
18:20.43 | ckknight | well, you do need to use some of it |
18:20.48 | SaladFork | Ck - I've been an X-perl user since I started playing, /shrug |
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18:21.04 | ckknight | I'm not a fan of brand loyalty |
18:21.14 | SaladFork | not loyal, I' m just used to it |
18:21.18 | Grum_ | ckknight: if you would have some spare time, would you be so kind go explain a bit about how the 'drawing' actually gets done in gatherer? because for someone who hasn't written the code it's not really .. clear :D |
18:21.18 | SaladFork | It has everything I need, and the config for it is superb |
18:21.20 | ckknight | prevents you from experiencing something better |
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18:21.21 | Garoun|Loupana | outside of SmartyCat and GonffBar I use mods most everyone else wood use |
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18:21.30 | ckknight | Grum_: gatherer's not my mod |
18:21.40 | SaladFork | And don't pull that on me, I've gone from KTM->Omen, and DM->SWS->Recount |
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18:21.42 | Garoun|Loupana | I use yours also ck |
18:21.44 | weab | what if it's ckk brand loyalty |
18:21.51 | Grum_ | ermmmmm |
18:21.56 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46367 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua): Relog - Bug fix related to resetting |
18:21.56 | Grum_ | sorryyy i meant Cartographer |
18:22.01 | ckknight | weab: then it's awesome. |
18:22.06 | Garoun|Loupana | the main reason I use Smarty and GonffBar is because I put both of the bars down under my hud |
18:22.17 | Grum_ | someone just asked craploads about gatherer .. and i told him not to use it .. but mixing up stuff now =D |
18:22.18 | SaladFork | Gonffbar? |
18:22.27 | ckknight | Grum_: um, it creates frames which create textures, those are placed either on the world map or minimap. |
18:22.36 | Cyrez | ckk tends to code because he hates the way similar addons work. |
18:22.46 | Cyrez | Titan, Metamap. *Cough* |
18:22.46 | Grum_ | what would be the best way for another addon to also draw stuff ontop of the map? |
18:22.48 | Garoun|Loupana | gonffbar is a energy tick meter |
18:22.56 | SaladFork | Oh |
18:22.58 | Grum_ | somehow finding that frame? or writing on WorldMapButton? |
18:22.59 | Garoun|Loupana | it's just a simple bar by itself :) |
18:23.00 | SaladFork | I just use EnergyWatch |
18:23.04 | ckknight | Cyrez: pretty much |
18:23.05 | Garoun|Loupana | I use to use EW |
18:23.19 | SaladFork | X-Perl tracks energy ticks on my unit frames, and EnergyWatch does the job for my HUD |
18:23.29 | ckknight | Cyrez: I don't come up with new ideas, my creativity stems from improving that which has already been thought up |
18:23.47 | Cyrez | When I switched from Titan to FuBar, I realized that Titan wasn't even worth crapping on. |
18:23.55 | Grum_ | hehe |
18:23.57 | SaladFork | Yen |
18:24.02 | SaladFork | I went Titan->Fubar myself |
18:24.09 | SaladFork | And everything else -> WowAce |
18:24.09 | SaladFork | =P |
18:24.25 | alb | myeh theres loads of good non-ace mods |
18:24.28 | Grum_ | so ckknight, when will we see an auctioneer-done-ck-style? :) |
18:24.40 | weab | i always thought titan blew. i thought it sucked so bad i hated on the very concept of bars |
18:24.43 | ckknight | never |
18:24.49 | Grum_ | hehe |
18:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ~logs |
18:25.55 | purl | well, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
18:25.55 | alb | auctioneer works great if you just use it on your bankalt |
18:25.55 | ruinna | forthelove.. has anyone else had an issue lately with tradeskill links and auctioneere? |
18:25.55 | SaladFork | Garoun - where can I get smartycat? |
18:25.55 | Garoun|Loupana | ace |
18:25.55 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, i'll just grep my own. |
18:25.55 | Garoun|Loupana | <PROTECTED> |
18:25.55 | SaladFork | Where from? |
18:25.55 | Grum_ | but what could you advise me to do? you've created an own 'overlay' over WorldMapButton in Cartographer? Would it be wise for me to create another one over that? or just draw in that frame? |
18:25.55 | Garoun|Loupana | wowace :P |
18:25.55 | SaladFork | WowInt and Curse don't seem to have it |
18:25.57 | SaladFork | Oh, I could have sworn someone says it wasn't on Ace |
18:26.12 | Garoun|Loupana | http://files.wowace.com/ |
18:26.16 | ckknight | Grum_: oh, because of the insanity of alpha values. |
18:26.27 | ckknight | Grum_: what do you want to do, though? |
18:26.30 | Grum_ | not really, i'm just pondering what is the best |
18:26.35 | Grum_ | Cartographer_Routes :) |
18:26.36 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Smartycat |
18:26.36 | SaladFork | .wiki Smartycat |
18:26.47 | Grum_ | was planning to draw lines between points using Graph-1.0 |
18:26.50 | SaladFork | *gasp* |
18:26.52 | SaladFork | No wiki page |
18:26.53 | SaladFork | =( |
18:27.13 | ckknight | Grum_: okay, but yes, you'll basically make a frame over the WorldMapButton (or whatever overlay I made) and draw on that. |
18:27.42 | SaladFork | .wau add SmartyCat SmartyCatManaBar |
18:27.44 | SaladFork | .wau update |
18:27.46 | SaladFork | Thanks Gar |
18:28.39 | Grum_ | ckknight: i saw Graph-1.0 creates a new 'button' or 'frame' for each line-part. but it doesn't really seem to reuse it |
18:28.58 | ckknight | that's an issue with Graph-1.0 |
18:29.07 | ckknight | but can't be prevented. |
18:29.45 | Grum_ | can you reuse them if you code it right? |
18:29.48 | Saroz | WTB screenshot of Relog |
18:29.51 | Grum_ | because i might spend time on doing that first then |
18:29.59 | ckknight | no |
18:30.08 | ckknight | as I said, it can't be prevented |
18:31.28 | SaladFork | Cryect - You there? |
18:32.41 | Grum_ | ckknight: cant you flag a used 'button/frame' and rescale and retexture it? |
18:33.02 | ckknight | no |
18:33.06 | ckknight | well, yes |
18:33.12 | Grum_ | takes some more administation |
18:33.16 | ckknight | but Graph-1.0 should do that... |
18:33.34 | Grum_ | hmmm u didn't see a way to 'turn of' drawed pieces |
18:33.43 | Grum_ | except for manually :Hide()ing |
18:35.17 | Grum_ | ah well that might be something i want to code then |
18:35.28 | Grum_ | to be able to ':MarkForReuse' orso |
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18:39.21 | Xinhuan | zzz took 30 minutes to read the kael'thas article on wowwiki lol |
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18:39.51 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: something's wrong with Threat's Revision keyword |
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18:42.14 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount |
18:42.14 | SaladFork | .wiki Recount |
18:43.14 | ulic | what's with all the .this .that stuff you're doing? |
18:43.21 | SaladFork | Local mIRC scripts |
18:43.27 | SaladFork | Though I have a few you guys can use |
18:43.29 | SaladFork | Like .calc |
18:43.49 | SaladFork | I'm lazy and have mIRC do stuff for me |
18:43.57 | AKX | Psh, SaladFork, I wrote a bot to do that. ;P |
18:44.03 | SaladFork | AKX - lol |
18:44.05 | SaladFork | 1 + 1 = 2 |
18:44.05 | SaladFork | .calc 1 + 1 |
18:44.07 | SaladFork | Based on the uptime of my WinXP box, e-Penis is 16.23 inches (41.22 cm) erect! Largest erection ever was 25.5 inches (64.76 cm)! |
18:44.07 | SaladFork | .epenis |
18:44.08 | SaladFork | =D |
18:44.57 | SaladFork | My birthday is in 50wks 6days 9hrs 14mins 57secs! |
18:44.57 | SaladFork | .bday |
18:45.10 | SaladFork | School starts in 55wks 3days 16hrs 34mins 45secs! |
18:45.10 | SaladFork | .school |
18:45.14 | Thorgard | That's some pretty pointless stuff. ;P |
18:45.19 | AKX | ^ |
18:45.21 | SaladFork | Thor - I disagree wholeheartedly |
18:45.26 | SaladFork | lol |
18:45.29 | SaladFork | I have mIRC doing some useful stuff |
18:45.34 | SaladFork | But I mostly use it as a toy |
18:45.34 | ulic | can't that be done in pm's or something? |
18:45.45 | SaladFork | Ulic - it can be done in local echos and slash commands |
18:45.47 | SaladFork | But that's boring |
18:45.53 | SaladFork | I have ~200 commands |
18:46.00 | SaladFork | But most require IRCop, or Op in a channel |
18:46.03 | SaladFork | Which I don't have in this server/channel |
18:46.09 | ulic | but we don't want to see them all. |
18:46.21 | SaladFork | Hehe, okay |
18:47.49 | *** join/#wowace zenBot (i=zen@servut.us) |
18:47.59 | zenBot | Hello, SaladFork. ;P |
18:48.03 | SaladFork | Haha |
18:48.06 | AKX | !ca 5+5 |
18:48.06 | zenBot | 5+5 = 10.0 |
18:48.22 | AKX | !remind in 5 minutes: Pizza's ready. |
18:48.23 | zenBot | Added reminder "Pizza's ready." on 21:53:29 08/12/07 |
18:48.35 | AKX | Do that in mIRC, SaladFork. ;P |
18:48.41 | SaladFork | I can |
18:48.43 | Gnarfoz | easily enough done |
18:48.45 | AKX | . /timer my ass. |
18:48.46 | Gnarfoz | but |
18:48.51 | Gnarfoz | make it local, pls =.+ |
18:48.56 | SaladFork | $duration($calc($ctime($1)-$ctime)) |
18:50.07 | SaladFork | mIRC is pretty boring until you get into Hash Tables and GUIs |
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18:51.22 | AKX | SaladFork, mIRC's scripting language is comparable to someone forcing 3.18 meters of victorian wrought iron fence up somewhere where it shouldn't be. |
18:51.30 | SaladFork | AKX - I know |
18:51.41 | AKX | zenBot is written in Python. :) |
18:51.41 | SaladFork | Trust me, I know, >.< |
18:51.51 | AKX | And the !ca module is Lua, actually. :D |
18:51.55 | SaladFork | I have an IRC bot written in PHP for a web game I used to admin |
18:51.59 | SaladFork | You could look up player stats and such |
18:52.02 | SaladFork | That actually gives me an idea |
18:52.08 | Killmore | Care meter: [|------] |
18:52.09 | SaladFork | Can anyone say "!armorylookup"? Hehe |
18:52.19 | AKX | Yeah, I can, SaladFork, watch: |
18:52.19 | Thrae | Python is an evil language made by snakes, the incarnation of the Devil. |
18:52.21 | AKX | !armorylookup |
18:52.25 | SaladFork | XD |
18:52.27 | AKX | Ta-da! |
18:52.39 | AKX | Though yeah... does the armory have XML output? |
18:52.54 | SaladFork | No, but allakhazam does, given an item name or ID |
18:53.08 | SaladFork | But I can easily parse the Armory using regexp's for any info I need |
18:53.27 | nevcairiel | i thought you can trick the armory in xml output |
18:53.40 | ulic | the armory is pretty much all xml |
18:53.41 | SaladFork | Well, I used FireBug to track the AJAX requests it sends |
18:53.46 | SaladFork | It's yucky stuff |
18:53.47 | SaladFork | Very messy |
18:53.52 | SaladFork | Which also makes it very slow and inefficient |
18:53.53 | FryGuy | armory has xml output if you trick it in to thinking you're a browser :p |
18:53.59 | SaiBork | ok, giving up on coding, just cant do it, bye bye, stupid vendor values |
18:54.09 | AKX | Oh, heh, SaladFork |
18:54.19 | AKX | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.19 | AKX | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.19 | AKX | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.19 | AKX | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.25 | AKX | It _is_ XML that is just XSLT'd. |
18:54.47 | Thrae | ThraeBot parses the XML fine |
18:54.50 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
18:54.53 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +15 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 917 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
18:54.57 | AKX | Neat. |
18:55.03 | FryGuy | i heard armory served out html unless it thought you were a browser |
18:55.04 | SaladFork | Well, the whole idea behind my bot is now useless |
18:55.04 | SaladFork | XD |
18:55.11 | FryGuy | !c us burning blade shamala |
18:55.14 | ThraeBot | FryGuy: Shamala, Level 70 Human Mage (10/0/51). 7123 HP; 8276 Mana; 187 mana regen; 158 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 677 +spell dmg; 5.02% dodge;[[ TBR: 1206 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gdx52 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32rugo ]] |
18:55.23 | SaladFork | Get your spell hit up, =P |
18:55.30 | SaladFork | What's TBR? |
18:55.34 | FryGuy | stopped playing months ago :p |
18:55.49 | Thrae | ThraeBot Rating of your stats, gear, and build. |
18:55.49 | FryGuy | and i bet that's with my pvp gear on since i have 7123 hp :p |
18:55.54 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak SaladFork |
18:55.56 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 40 mp5; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 593 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (847); 179 shadow dmg (772); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +21 all resists;[[ TBR: 1821 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/273ku8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32db27 ]] |
18:56.04 | SaladFork | Hehe |
18:56.07 | SaladFork | That's me in my business attire |
18:56.21 | SaladFork | Unbuffed, and switched out gear for a tux |
18:56.32 | FryGuy | you only have 8 more than me! |
18:56.33 | FryGuy | :p |
18:56.34 | Thrae | !i 2442 |
18:56.35 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Reinforced Targe; Rarity: White; +491 Armour; Requires L22; 80 Durability; Get: Unknown. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2442 ]] |
18:56.42 | SaladFork | Fry - with half my gear off, =) |
18:56.50 | FryGuy | ya that's my pvp gear |
18:56.54 | Thrae | !te us stormreaver 5 lolcrew |
18:56.55 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: LOLcrew (5v5); Rampage (Horde); Rank: 129; Rating: 1926; Last Season's Rank: 149; This Season: 135/227 (60%) (Won/Played); This Week: 8/12 (67%); Points: ~927. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3bmuw4 ]] |
18:56.56 | nevcairiel | Thrae: whats that TBR thing on chars? |
18:57.00 | SaladFork | I have +13% hit when raiding (A shammy's Totem of Wrath makes up the rest) |
18:57.04 | Thrae | All kinds of nice things to parse on the armory |
18:57.14 | SaladFork | Wow, I have 600 more TBR than you when I'm in a tux, =D |
18:57.24 | Thrae | nevcairiel: 15:03 < Thrae> ThraeBot Rating of your stats, gear, and build. |
18:57.30 | nevcairiel | ah. |
18:57.32 | nevcairiel | let see |
18:57.39 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas Nevcairiel |
18:57.42 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1095 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2g5z89 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bf8d8 ]] |
18:57.54 | nevcairiel | wonder how that is actually rated |
18:58.03 | SaladFork | +1700 hela only gets 1095 TBR, o.O |
18:58.06 | SaladFork | heal* |
18:58.15 | Thrae | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel us burning blade shamala |
18:58.16 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Nevcairiel vs Shamala! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 10/0/51; Shamala wins by 304 TBRs! |
18:58.37 | SaladFork | !vs us burning blade shamala us aerie peak saladfork |
18:58.38 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Shamala vs Saladfork! Two 70 mages square off!; Saladfork wins by 615 TBRs! |
18:58.45 | SaladFork | lol |
18:58.53 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak qz |
18:58.55 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Qz, Level 31 Tauren Druid (0/17/5). 1511 HP; 1324 Mana; 77 mana regen; 2.4% melee crit; 10.08% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +5 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 324 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/38hpyg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yszg9u ]] |
18:59.01 | FryGuy | SaladFork: I stopped playing before the last patch |
18:59.05 | SaladFork | Fry - kk |
18:59.36 | SaladFork | Thrae - make that into a WoW addon, =P |
19:00.01 | FryGuy | before they nerfed serpentshrine and tk and opened up hyjal & black temple |
19:00.09 | SaladFork | Heh |
19:00.12 | SaladFork | Doesn't effect me |
19:00.14 | SaladFork | I'm barely into Kara |
19:00.16 | SaladFork | just Attumen downed |
19:00.24 | FryGuy | well i didn't pvp much :p |
19:00.33 | SaladFork | Me either, surprisingly my frostie is a raider |
19:00.34 | nevcairiel | Thrae: somehow i think this TBR is kinda weird =P |
19:00.37 | SaladFork | I have 6.4k hp total, XD |
19:00.57 | SaladFork | Nev - I agree |
19:01.11 | SaladFork | My yucky +850 frostdmg is out-ranking your +1700 heal |
19:01.17 | SaladFork | You have a lot for a druid, I have little for a mage |
19:01.27 | FryGuy | i respecced frost to pvp before i finally quit though :p |
19:01.57 | nevcairiel | yeah just thinking, full epic t5 et al should beat blue gear ;) |
19:01.57 | Thrae | SaladFork: In a 1v1 fight, how the hell is a Resto Druid going to kill you? Make you run out of mana? |
19:01.57 | nevcairiel | actually |
19:01.57 | nevcairiel | yea |
19:01.57 | nevcairiel | i killed mages |
19:01.59 | FryGuy | i mean, the guild broke up (i was fire specced to raid), then i specced frost to play around in BG before my account ran out :p |
19:01.59 | SaladFork | Thrae - easy |
19:02.02 | Thrae | SaladFork: Even then, you could probably wand him to death with your uber DPS wand |
19:02.03 | SaladFork | Resto druids kill people by not healing them. |
19:02.31 | nevcairiel | i won duells against fire-arcane mages |
19:02.36 | nevcairiel | just survive the burst |
19:02.38 | SaladFork | That's because fire mages should never PvP |
19:02.41 | nevcairiel | then outheal them and slowly dps |
19:02.44 | Thrae | TBR is based on a weighted logarithmic equation |
19:03.14 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak johnyquest us aerie peak saladfork |
19:03.16 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Johnyquest vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/5/56 vs 10/0/51; Johnyquest wins by 7 TBRs! |
19:03.22 | Thrae | Ooo, close |
19:03.25 | SaladFork | Well, I officially get owned by my resto shammy guild leader |
19:03.35 | SaladFork | =( |
19:03.36 | Thrae | Hey, Resto Shammies are tough :D |
19:03.41 | SaladFork | Not really |
19:03.46 | SaladFork | Spells ignore armor, so the mail does nothing for them |
19:03.55 | SaladFork | And it's just a good counterspell placement before some burst damage and they drop |
19:04.11 | Thrae | Yes, my weights ignore armour when fighting mages, warlocks, Balance Druids, Priests, etc. |
19:04.36 | SaladFork | Okay, let's try against my MT |
19:04.40 | dreamss | with spellsteal and gaylance mages got a alot harder for shamans |
19:04.42 | SaladFork | (warriors are free HKs for mages) |
19:04.43 | dreamss | still doable |
19:04.50 | dreamss | bs sal |
19:04.57 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak saladfork us aerie peak grarl |
19:04.57 | Thrae | I can't take the skill of the player into account :D |
19:04.59 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork vs Grarl! A L70 mage and a L70 warrior square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/6/55; Grarl wins by 351 TBRs! |
19:05.02 | SaladFork | Wow |
19:05.04 | SaladFork | That's off by so much, XD |
19:05.11 | SaladFork | I win against warriors 99.5% of the time |
19:05.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
19:05.13 | FryGuy | not really off |
19:05.23 | SaladFork | esp. prot warriors |
19:05.26 | nevcairiel | !vs eu antonidas tatjanai eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:05.28 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Tatjanai vs Nevcairiel! A L70 warrior and a L70 druid square off!; 8/10/43 vs 1/0/60; Tatjanai wins by 898 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
19:05.32 | SaladFork | hahaha |
19:05.38 | nevcairiel | i want to see that happen |
19:05.53 | nevcairiel | imho that bot underrates resto druids :P |
19:05.57 | FryGuy | it's saying his gear is better than yours :p |
19:05.58 | Thrae | Tatjanai is probably in his PvP gear, while nevcairiel isn't |
19:05.59 | SaladFork | And overrates prot warriors |
19:06.11 | FryGuy | not really who will win against each other in pvp |
19:06.21 | dreamss | whats the format? |
19:06.29 | dreamss | playername servername? |
19:06.30 | nevcairiel | FryGuy: actually, its rating more on duel values |
19:06.31 | Thrae | SaladFork: Not really -- when fighting a Mage, it ignores defense, dodge, parry, armour, etc. for the Warrior |
19:06.35 | Thrae | !help vs |
19:06.35 | ThraeBot | !vs <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2> -- Set two characters to battle for ThraeBot Ratings |
19:06.35 | zenBot | ! In help: NameError: global name 'cmdz' is not defined |
19:06.46 | SaladFork | Thrae - so how does my prot warrior in full blues kil lme? |
19:06.53 | nevcairiel | FryGuy: my epix t5 gear should bet thraes blue stuff, but still he wins :P |
19:06.55 | SaladFork | When I have never lost to him, or any other warrior short of full-glads |
19:07.05 | dreamss | !vs us stormscale dreamss eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:07.09 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss vs Nevcairiel! A L70 shaman and a L70 druid square off!; 0/16/45 vs 1/0/60; Dreamss wins by 812 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
19:07.18 | dreamss | pwned |
19:07.23 | nevcairiel | i really think he underrates druids :P |
19:07.30 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss |
19:07.32 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Saladfork wins by 43 TBRs! |
19:07.37 | dreamss | dam |
19:07.45 | SaladFork | Hehe |
19:07.48 | dreamss | rematch |
19:07.49 | dreamss | ! |
19:07.55 | dreamss | !vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss |
19:07.56 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Saladfork wins by 43 TBRs! |
19:08.03 | dreamss | oh cam on |
19:08.05 | Thrae | !c eu antonidas tatjanai |
19:08.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Tatjanai, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/10/43). 15144 HP; 15530 Armour; 730 AP; 150.9 Melee DPS; 11.79% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 362 defense; 23.82% dodge; 27.07% block;[[ TBR: 2245!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x4nva ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2see39 ]] |
19:08.08 | SaladFork | Thrae - does it cache Armory data? |
19:08.09 | dreamss | i dint say istant replay |
19:08.25 | Thrae | SaladFork: Only for items |
19:08.38 | nevcairiel | prot warriors get really high ratings |
19:08.38 | SaladFork | So let me log out in my new gear |
19:08.39 | nevcairiel | amazing |
19:08.48 | snurre | !c eu dragonmaw capnaggro |
19:08.49 | dreamss | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:08.51 | ThraeBot | snurre: Capnaggro, Level 60 Orc Warrior (10/41/0). 5219 HP; 6204 Armour; 1260 AP; 155.5 Melee DPS; 31.54% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 8.71% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 1884 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fz4fg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/392fsd ]] |
19:08.51 | ThraeBot | dreamss: dreamss vs saladfork! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! dreamss wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
19:08.54 | SaladFork | Yeah, prot warriors dominate |
19:09.12 | dreamss | player 1 allways wins? |
19:09.19 | Thrae | That's a random event :D |
19:09.23 | SaladFork | wtf |
19:09.25 | SaladFork | oh |
19:09.26 | SaladFork | lol |
19:09.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
19:09.45 | nevcairiel | !vs eu antonidas kelina eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:09.47 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Kelina vs Nevcairiel! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/0/61 vs 1/0/60; Kelina wins by 293 TBRs! |
19:09.47 | SaladFork | I guess I got a lag spike |
19:09.51 | nevcairiel | wtf |
19:09.52 | dreamss | oh hey Thrae |
19:09.58 | dreamss | what are u using for ur script? |
19:10.05 | SaladFork | k, Just updated armory with my actual gear |
19:10.09 | Thrae | Lua, of course |
19:10.10 | SaladFork | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:10.12 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 106 TBRs! |
19:10.17 | dreamss | yes |
19:10.21 | SaladFork | Wow, I raised all my stats, and now I lose? |
19:10.25 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone know if the stockcooler of an opteron fits into a U1 case? |
19:10.28 | SaladFork | I went up 25 frostdmg, up 1% spellcrit, and lost 50hp |
19:10.30 | dreamss | !c us dreamss |
19:10.34 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: no |
19:10.36 | SaladFork | I think it overvalues health compard to other desirable mage stats... |
19:10.43 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: doesnt fit i mean ;) |
19:10.45 | dreamss | !c us stormscale dreamss |
19:10.47 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 8315 HP; 8907 Mana; 205 mana regen; 100 mp5; 5012 Armour; 150.7 Melee DPS; 11.15% melee crit; 25 spell crit; 116 +spell dmg; 1056 +heal; 6.16% dodge; 5% block; 55 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1859 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]] |
19:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel damn you, AMD. |
19:11.12 | Thrae | SaladFork: Mages have the lowest health weight, 1 |
19:11.24 | SaladFork | Thrae - I just went down 50hp, and up 25 frost damage and 1% spellcrit |
19:11.26 | SaladFork | And I lost rating |
19:11.28 | dreamss | BAH why lua |
19:11.31 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak saladfork |
19:11.33 | SaladFork | Let's see how much |
19:11.34 | dreamss | l2 tcl :P |
19:11.34 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1673 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
19:11.39 | SaladFork | I went down ~200 TBR |
19:12.01 | SaladFork | Sorry, my bad |
19:12.05 | SaladFork | RatingBuster said I only went down 20hp |
19:12.08 | dreamss | i beat u on my pve gear and gorehowl LO |
19:12.15 | dreamss | healing pve gear :P |
19:12.45 | Fisker- | Anyone know how i can remove the violation report each time it resets? |
19:12.49 | SaladFork | I LOST 20hp, 60 mana, and I GAINED 28 frost damage, .36% spellcrit, 2.06% spellhit |
19:12.54 | SaladFork | And I went DOWN 200 TBR |
19:12.54 | SaladFork | XD |
19:12.57 | dreamss | Thrae i so wish it was in a language u could use elsewere :P |
19:14.08 | sag_ich_nicht | also thanks nevcairiel |
19:14.11 | Thrae | dreamss: What do you mean "elsewhere"? |
19:14.19 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:14.20 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:14.27 | evl | how do I floor a value in lua? |
19:14.32 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:14.34 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 147 TBRs! |
19:14.40 | SaladFork | Yeah |
19:14.42 | nevcairiel | evl: math.floor? |
19:14.43 | dreamss | like so i dont have to code it on my own thraw :P |
19:14.44 | SaladFork | I somehow lost 200, >.< |
19:14.55 | dreamss | i win by skillfury |
19:15.00 | dreamss | ! im the greatest |
19:15.15 | nevcairiel | !vs eu antonidas muhni eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:15.16 | evl | nevcairiel: ty |
19:15.17 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Muhni vs Nevcairiel! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 44/12/5 vs 1/0/60; Muhni wins by 949 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
19:15.21 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can defeat anything =P |
19:15.31 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:15.31 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:15.32 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:15.34 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 184 TBRs! |
19:15.43 | Thrae | Hmm, this makes no sense |
19:15.51 | Shirik | yes, Thrae, it doesn't |
19:15.55 | Shirik | this especially: |
19:16.03 | Shirik | !vs us Drenden Kimina us Eredar Shirik |
19:16.05 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 23/38/0 vs 3/50/8; Shirik wins by 172 TBRs! |
19:16.06 | dreamss | whats a tbr? |
19:16.09 | Shirik | er, ok |
19:16.10 | Shirik | now I win |
19:16.16 | SaladFork | Thrae - want me to compare the two I had before/after I lost 200 TBR? |
19:16.18 | SaladFork | Or do you have it? |
19:16.19 | Shirik | yesterday, Kimina creamed me |
19:16.28 | dreamss | !vs us aerie peak saladfork us stormscale dreamss |
19:16.29 | Shirik | and considering she's been 70 for about a week |
19:16.30 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Saladfork vs Dreamss! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/16/45; Dreamss wins by 184 TBRs! |
19:16.34 | SaladFork | Before: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 40 mp5; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 593 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (847); 179 shadow dmg (772); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +21 all resists;[[ TBR: 1821 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/273ku8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32db27 ]] |
19:16.38 | SaladFork | After: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1673 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
19:16.55 | SaladFork | Notice how hp and mana are the same |
19:16.57 | SaladFork | mana regen is the same |
19:17.04 | SaladFork | But I went up spell crit |
19:17.06 | SaladFork | up spellhit |
19:17.08 | SaladFork | and up a lot of spelldmg |
19:17.09 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:17.09 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:17.11 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:17.12 | SaladFork | And I lose 200 TDR |
19:17.12 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 890 TBRs! |
19:17.20 | dreamss | SOB |
19:17.21 | SaladFork | Well, that's slightly better, XD |
19:17.23 | Thrae | Aha -- my weighting system is revering the values |
19:17.30 | Thrae | s/revering/reversing/ |
19:17.36 | dreamss | what a freaking 890 tbr? |
19:17.50 | Silviu- | !vs eu gorgonnash Littleone eu gorgonnash Ringo |
19:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ThraeBotRating? |
19:17.52 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone vs Ringo! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 41/0/20 vs 42/0/19; Ringo wins by 1 TBRs! |
19:18.05 | Silviu- | TBRs = ? ;) |
19:18.06 | dreamss | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:18.08 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 890 TBRs! |
19:18.11 | dreamss | BAH |
19:18.14 | Shirik | Thrae Battle Ratings |
19:18.16 | Shirik | imo |
19:18.17 | dreamss | champion is beat |
19:18.21 | dreamss | sob :( |
19:19.04 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:19.04 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:19.07 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:19.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Dreamss wins by 1427 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
19:19.13 | dreamss | YES |
19:19.19 | dreamss | im the champ once again |
19:19.23 | SaladFork | Thrae, try again |
19:19.23 | SaladFork | XD |
19:19.27 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:19.28 | Shirik | that's beyond owned |
19:19.29 | nevcairiel | lets see |
19:19.30 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1043 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]] |
19:19.32 | dreamss | !c us stormscale dreamss |
19:19.34 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 8315 HP; 8907 Mana; 205 mana regen; 100 mp5; 5012 Armour; 150.7 Melee DPS; 11.15% melee crit; 25 spell crit; 116 +spell dmg; 1056 +heal; 6.16% dodge; 5% block; 55 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1820 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]] |
19:19.36 | nevcairiel | meh didnt increase :P |
19:19.43 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak saladfork |
19:19.45 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1674 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
19:19.48 | SaladFork | I'm down to 1674 again |
19:19.49 | SaladFork | =( |
19:19.53 | Thrae | Ah whoops |
19:19.55 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:19.55 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:19.56 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:19.57 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:19.59 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2apwna ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ms9 ]] |
19:19.59 | ThraeBot | Thrae: dreamss vs saladfork! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! dreamss's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
19:20.08 | Shirik | rofl |
19:20.09 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale dreamss us aerie peak saladfork |
19:20.09 | dreamss | BAH |
19:20.10 | AKX | Thrae, what language is ThraeBot written in? |
19:20.11 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Dreamss vs Saladfork! A L70 shaman and a L70 mage square off!; 0/16/45 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 262 TBRs! |
19:20.16 | Thrae | There we go |
19:20.26 | Thrae | AKX: Again, Lua |
19:20.29 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak saladfork |
19:20.29 | AKX | Ah, ok. |
19:20.31 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6413 HP; 8216 Mana; 134 mana regen; 201 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (879); 179 shadow dmg (804); 5.34% dodge; 57 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 685 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
19:20.35 | SaladFork | Uh |
19:20.36 | Thrae | Alright, now the values should be more sane |
19:20.37 | SaladFork | 685 TBR? |
19:20.38 | SaladFork | That doesn't seem right |
19:20.40 | AKX | I wasn't following the last time... |
19:21.06 | Thrae | SaladFork: The TBR algorithm has been fundementally changed |
19:21.08 | dreamss | does it count pvp trinket to weight tbr? |
19:21.20 | Thrae | dreamss: How could it do that? |
19:21.24 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:21.27 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7804 HP; 8855 Mana; 371 mana regen; 179 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1468 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]] |
19:21.27 | Thrae | I don't know how either of the players will attack |
19:21.31 | nevcairiel | thats better |
19:21.33 | nevcairiel | 400 up |
19:21.38 | SaladFork | Um |
19:21.41 | SaladFork | He has over double my TBR |
19:21.44 | dreamss | its not a stat trinket (new one is i guess) |
19:21.58 | SaladFork | There's no way a +1700 druid has TWICE my TBR |
19:21.59 | dreamss | but pvp trinket can change the fight around |
19:22.25 | Thrae | SaladFork: That's because his gear and stats are overall better then yours, but that doesn't mean he'll win vs you |
19:22.36 | SaladFork | But twice the TBR? THat's insane |
19:22.41 | nevcairiel | SaladFork: have a look at my gear, its not even remotely comparable to yours :P |
19:22.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I think you guys are reading waaaaaay to much into an abstract stat comparison |
19:22.55 | SaladFork | Yeah, I should do that |
19:22.58 | SaladFork | Before I complain |
19:22.59 | SaladFork | =P |
19:23.06 | Thrae | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel us aerie peak saladfork |
19:23.11 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Nevcairiel vs Saladfork! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 10/0/51; Saladfork wins by 145 TBRs! |
19:23.12 | SaladFork | I get owned |
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19:23.14 | SaladFork | woah |
19:23.17 | SaladFork | Nev went down? |
19:23.21 | dreamss | how u weight points anyways, using blizz point values? |
19:23.35 | AKX | I'm going so down. |
19:23.38 | AKX | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu moonglade zerun |
19:23.39 | ThraeBot | AKX: Nevcairiel vs Zerun! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/0/60 vs 24/37/0; Zerun wins by 110 TBRs! |
19:23.44 | AKX | ... Wait, what? D: |
19:23.48 | Thrae | SaladFork: Yes, because stuff like his armour, dodge, etc. doesn't get taken into account |
19:23.58 | SaladFork | Thrae - Ohhhh |
19:24.00 | SaladFork | In a duel against me |
19:24.00 | dreamss | !c us stormscale dreamss |
19:24.00 | SaladFork | Very nice. |
19:24.03 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/16/45). 9344 HP; 6324 Mana; 120 mana regen; 21 mp5; 4591 Armour; 990 AP; 190.6 Melee DPS; 22.21% melee crit; 63 melee hit; 86 +spell dmg/heal; 9.19% dodge; 5% block; 159 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +7 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 607 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwbgc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37dtnr ]] |
19:24.04 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, are there no good 1U AM2 coolers at all? D: |
19:24.20 | nevcairiel | i just play mages oom |
19:24.22 | nevcairiel | thats pretty easy |
19:24.33 | dreamss | lol i wentf rom TBR: 1820 to TBR: 607 |
19:24.34 | sb | whats TBR? |
19:24.40 | Thrae | sb: Scroll up |
19:24.41 | Silviu- | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:24.43 | sb | hm :) |
19:24.43 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Nevcairiel vs Littleone! A L70 druid and a L70 warlock square off!; 1/0/60 vs 41/0/20; Littleone wins by 292 TBRs! |
19:24.50 | dreamss | pvp enhas gear < pve resto gear |
19:25.07 | Thrae | Poor Nevvie just can't win |
19:25.14 | nevcairiel | lets see |
19:25.20 | nevcairiel | a duel i just won last weke |
19:25.23 | nevcairiel | *week |
19:25.37 | nevcairiel | !vs eu antonidas spaiki eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:25.38 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Spaiki vs Nevcairiel! A L70 warrior and a L70 druid square off!; 17/44/0 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 533 TBRs! |
19:25.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
19:25.44 | nevcairiel | smart bot |
19:26.47 | SaladFork | Let's see how I do against my prot tank now |
19:26.55 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak saladfork us aerie peak grarl |
19:26.56 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork vs Grarl! A L70 mage and a L70 warrior square off!; 10/0/51 vs 0/6/55; Saladfork wins by 412 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
19:27.00 | SaladFork | Much better. |
19:27.08 | SaladFork | I approve of your bot. |
19:27.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. but who doesn't win against prot warriors. >.> |
19:27.22 | SaladFork | rogues, I hear |
19:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | well, aside from rogues :P |
19:28.25 | Thrae | Note that if your gear really, really sucks, you can loose to like a 45 |
19:28.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
19:28.33 | SaladFork | Really? |
19:28.43 | Thrae | Yes, because it calculates logarithmically |
19:28.50 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak Qz eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:28.50 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Qz vs nevcairiel! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Qz's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
19:28.54 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak Qz eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:28.56 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Qz vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +39 lvls on Qz (31 vs 70); Two druids square off!; 0/17/5 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 1374 TBRs! |
19:29.01 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
19:29.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
19:29.02 | nevcairiel | !vs eu antonidas orlin eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:29.04 | SaladFork | How is that not ****OWNED***** |
19:29.05 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Orlin vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +4 lvls on Orlin (66 vs 70); A L66 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 16/41/0 vs 1/0/60; Orlin wins by 134 TBRs! |
19:29.25 | Thrae | Poor, poor Nevvie |
19:29.31 | nevcairiel | thats my own warlock |
19:29.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
19:29.42 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7) |
19:29.48 | nevcairiel | nah i cannot defeat warlocks anyway |
19:29.52 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
19:30.07 | nevcairiel | not a chance in a million |
19:30.10 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46368 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
19:30.10 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
19:30.10 | CIA-14 | - added 'handleall' option to min-/maximize all chat frames |
19:30.16 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
19:30.16 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:30.16 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:30.24 | Thrae | SaladFork: There was a typo in the code, thanks for pointing it out |
19:30.33 | SaladFork | Thrae - no problem, =) |
19:31.59 | ZealotOnAStick | !vs eu antonidas orlin us blackhand tenebra |
19:32.01 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Orlin vs Tenebra! Tenebra has +4 lvls on Orlin (66 vs 70); Two warlocks square off!; 16/41/0 vs 44/0/17; Tenebra wins by 126 TBRs! |
19:32.15 | nevcairiel | ZealotOnAStick: what did you expect now ? :P |
19:32.30 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:32.31 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:32.35 | ZealotOnAStick | what are "TBRs?" |
19:32.42 | nevcairiel | ThraeBot Ratings |
19:32.46 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick which is your wl ? |
19:32.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Tenebra |
19:33.01 | Silviu- | !vs eu us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:33.02 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
19:33.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
19:33.12 | Silviu- | !vs us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:33.12 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: tenebra vs Littleone! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Littleone's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
19:33.17 | Thrae | !vs us maelstrom thrae us eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:33.18 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
19:33.22 | Silviu- | lol ?; ) |
19:33.26 | Thrae | !vs us maelstrom thrae eu antonidas nevcairiel |
19:33.26 | dreamss | hehe |
19:33.28 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae vs Nevcairiel! Nevcairiel has +11 lvls on Thrae (59 vs 70); Two druids square off!; 1/41/8 vs 1/0/60; Nevcairiel wins by 1147 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
19:33.32 | *** join/#wowace QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
19:33.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
19:33.38 | nevcairiel | }o/ |
19:33.39 | Antiarc | !vs us cenarion circle adrine us cenarion circle wraithedge |
19:33.39 | ThraeBot | Antiarc: adrine vs wraithedge! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing wraithedge instantly. |
19:33.45 | Antiarc | ....hahah |
19:33.47 | Silviu- | !vs us blackhand tenebra eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:33.47 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: tenebra vs Littleone! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! tenebra is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes tenebra 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
19:34.01 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
19:34.12 | Silviu- | hmm |
19:34.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. NOT a keyboard turner. |
19:34.20 | Silviu- | :) |
19:34.33 | Silviu- | !c us blackhand tenebra |
19:34.36 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 8910 HP; 8620 Mana; 114 mana regen; 162 spell crit; 198 spell hit; 1018 +spell dmg; 161 shadow dmg (1179); 4.68% dodge; 35 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 787 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt634r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35klc9 ]] |
19:34.41 | Silviu- | ud bah |
19:34.45 | Silviu- | :P |
19:34.48 | SaladFork | Full FSW? |
19:34.59 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:34.59 | ThraeBot | Sorry Silviu-, you must wait 37 seconds before making another request. |
19:35.13 | ZealotOnAStick | No. Various instance drops. No crafted. |
19:35.18 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r46369 10BugSack/BugSack-zhCN.lua: BugSack: update zhCN local .thanks biggate@CWDG |
19:35.28 | Thrae | !helpspam |
19:35.28 | ThraeBot | Triggers: !fc <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !c <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !co <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2>; !g <eu/us> <server>, <guild>; !te <eu/us> <server> <team size> <team name>; !vs <eu/us> <server> <character> <eu/us> <server2> <character2>; !ar <points>; !l <eu/us> <server> <character name>; !tc <eu/us> <server> <team size> <team name> [<vs <eu/u |
19:35.28 | ThraeBot | s> <server2> <team size2> <team name2>]; !ap <rating>; !api <function name>; !tl; !t <url> [optional stuff after]; !i <item name or id>;. To get more information about a particular command, do !help <command>. Now /msg ThraeBot with your command and stop spamming the damn channel. |
19:35.36 | Thiana | TBRs? |
19:35.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh, and Merci Glad spellblade and veteran's dreadweave bracers. |
19:35.42 | SaladFork | what's the difference between fc and c? |
19:35.54 | ulic | ~tbr |
19:35.58 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Littleone |
19:36.01 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2apwna ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ms9 ]] |
19:36.09 | Thrae | SaladFork: fc is from the original FoxBot, it caches and shows less stats |
19:36.17 | Silviu- | how can i be the same as Zealot ? :/ |
19:36.21 | Silviu- | I own him ! |
19:36.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Waiting on the stuff I actually -want- to drop in Hyjal and BT . . . some of which I have to be second on, because our primary shadow priest has like a 90 DKP lead on the next closest. |
19:36.21 | Silviu- | ;p |
19:36.31 | Thrae | !ap 232 |
19:36.31 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Rating given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings? Either way, you fail at life. |
19:36.34 | SaladFork | !g us aerie peak horde outrunners |
19:36.42 | Thrae | !ar 232 |
19:36.42 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 232 points is, 2v2: 1383, 3v3: 1274, 5v5: 1121 |
19:36.52 | Thrae | SaladFork: You forgot the comma |
19:36.57 | SaladFork | huh? |
19:36.58 | SaladFork | oh |
19:37.01 | SaladFork | !g us aerie peak, horde outrunners |
19:37.02 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: <Horde Outrunners> on Aerie Peak has 181 members. [[ http://tinyurl.com/2el68j ]] |
19:37.03 | Shirik | !c us Drenden Belholysezhi |
19:37.04 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Belholysezhi, Level 2 Gnome Warrior: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick![[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2p8aqv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2b3fof ]] |
19:37.07 | SaladFork | Wow, that's useful, XD |
19:37.08 | Shirik | rofl! |
19:37.11 | Shirik | He's dead outside of kara |
19:37.14 | Shirik | that gnome |
19:37.26 | Thrae | !l us maelstrom thrae |
19:37.29 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
19:37.37 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46370 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
19:37.37 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
19:37.37 | CIA-14 | - removed a stupid comment |
19:37.54 | SaladFork | !l us aerie peak saladfork |
19:37.56 | Thrae | deccard is being a little OCD there |
19:37.57 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork's last login date is listed as August 12, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
19:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae |
19:38.11 | SaladFork | !tl |
19:38.12 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2mcgf3 (SaladFork's link) |
19:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what causes the cheatmessage? |
19:38.16 | SaladFork | ? |
19:38.21 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: Random |
19:38.22 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho |
19:38.25 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/47/14; Ruknor wins by 1079 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
19:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i see. |
19:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
19:38.35 | sag_ich_nicht | that is wrong |
19:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i am unable to defeat her in a duell |
19:38.42 | Thiana | ~tbr |
19:38.50 | Thiana | !tbr |
19:39.36 | sag_ich_nicht | fail? |
19:39.37 | sag_ich_nicht | !br |
19:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
19:39.40 | sag_ich_nicht | !tbr |
19:39.42 | Thrae | purl, TBR stands for ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. |
19:39.42 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Thrae |
19:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ~tbr |
19:39.44 | Fisker- | attack! |
19:39.57 | Thrae | purl, TBR is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. |
19:39.57 | purl | okay, Thrae |
19:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't change the fact that she can beat me with just autoattack >.> |
19:40.44 | SaladFork | !i spellstrike hood |
19:40.44 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Name: Spellstrike Hood; Rarity: Purple; BoE; Head; +16 Stamina; +12 Intellect; +145 Armour; 1 Blue; 1 Yellow; 1 Red; +4 Stamina socket bonus; Requires L70; 60 Durability; +24 CritSpellRating; +16 HitSpellRating; Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 46.; Spellstrike Infusion Set; Set Items: Spellstrike Hood Spellstrike Pants; Set Bonus for 2: Gi |
19:40.44 | ThraeBot | ves a chance when your harmful spells land to increase the damage of your spells and effects by 92 for 10 sec.; Get: Created. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24266 ]] |
19:40.47 | SaladFork | Just had mine made, =D |
19:41.05 | Thrae | !co eu gorgonnash Littleone us blackhand tenebra |
19:41.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Littleone vs Tenebra! Two 70 warlocks square off!; Littleone +2390 HP; Littleone +0.39% dodge; Tenebra +10 shadow resist; Littleone +141 +spelldmg; Littleone +7 resilience; Tenebra +51 shadow dmg; Littleone +729 Armour; Tenebra +60 Mana; Littleone +47 mana regen; Tenebra +46 spell hit; Littleone +1 spell crit; Littleone +33 All Resists; Littleone has 3% more stats then Tenebra. |
19:41.22 | Cheads | !l eu Aszune Emmeke |
19:41.24 | Thrae | That gives you a better picture of why one wins over the other |
19:41.25 | ThraeBot | Cheads: Emmeke's last login date is listed as 12 August 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23m6hk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vvtmj ]] |
19:41.30 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
19:41.40 | sag_ich_nicht | !co eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho |
19:41.42 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; Ruknor +30 melee hit; Ruknor +5.76% block; Ruknor +113.4 Melee DPS; Sodexho +13.05% dodge; Sodexho +58 +healing; Sodexho +106 defense; Sodexho +2997 HP; Sodexho +2087 Mana; Sodexho +18 mana regen; Ruknor +756 AP; Ruknor +10.74% melee crit; Sodexho +76 resilience; Ruknor +1237 Armour; Ruknor +7 mp5; Sodexho has 4% more sta |
19:41.42 | ThraeBot | ts then Ruknor. |
19:41.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ...~_~ |
19:42.04 | Thrae | The % more stats has nothing to do with TBRs |
19:42.07 | yacoob | You know you haven't played WoW for a long time when: you do not understand latest Dark Legacy comic :( |
19:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | she still wins with only autoattack thus ThraeBot is rong! |
19:43.29 | CIA-14 | 03curney * r46371 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (21 files): (log message trimmed) |
19:43.29 | CIA-14 | Prat/Prat_Modules: |
19:43.29 | CIA-14 | $ this is primarily a facelift update so don't have a heart attack by its size. |
19:43.29 | CIA-14 | $ should be no change in data whatsoever. |
19:43.29 | CIA-14 | # renamed "ChatButtons" to "Buttons". |
19:43.30 | CIA-14 | # renamed "ChatFrames" to "Frames". |
19:43.32 | CIA-14 | # renamed "ChatLink" to "ChannelLinks". |
19:43.54 | Thrae | The algorithm -- t1_score = t1_score + t1.level * math.log(math.max(1,t1[k] or 0)) / v, where v == the weight for that stat vs the class you're fighting against (unless you're doing !c), and t1[k] is the stat |
19:44.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you should change it so the stat weight depends on the talent tree focus |
19:44.33 | sag_ich_nicht | else it will never work for hybrids |
19:45.06 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: Already did, somewhat. It looks for high Spell Damage, Healing, etc. and seriously decreases the focus on Melee. |
19:45.25 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: IE, it uses a different weight table in those cases |
19:45.32 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
19:46.16 | sag_ich_nicht | she has 30k armor or something in bear and enough HP & AP to outlast me with just autoattack. :( |
19:48.07 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
19:48.08 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
19:48.15 | Thrae | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho |
19:48.15 | ThraeBot | Thrae: ruknor vs sodexho! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! ruknor wins by 8658278 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
19:48.21 | Thrae | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho |
19:48.23 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Ruknor vs Sodexho! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/47/14; Ruknor wins by 1286 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
19:49.20 | SaladFork | Thrae |
19:49.24 | SaladFork | If it sees my spec as 10/0/51 |
19:49.28 | SaladFork | Will it correctly use my frost +spelldmg? |
19:49.37 | Thrae | SaladFork: Yes |
19:49.40 | SaladFork | Yay |
19:49.45 | Thrae | SaladFork: It uses it either way |
19:49.57 | durcyn | !c us Turalyon Durcyn |
19:50.00 | ThraeBot | durcyn: Durcyn, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/1/18). 8470 HP; 7645 Mana; 107 mana regen; 121 spell crit; 187 spell hit; 760 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (939); 334 shadow dmg (1094); 4.47% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 776 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29u8sp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v4hwg ]] |
19:50.16 | SaladFork | Okay, who wants to fight? =D |
19:50.45 | Wixi | o/ |
19:50.49 | SaladFork | Tiny warlock, I pick you! |
19:50.57 | Cryect | Thrae you writing out an algorithm makes me think Thraebot should give us algorithms when we are feeling really lazy :-p |
19:51.00 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak SaladFork us turalyon Durcyn |
19:51.01 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork vs Durcyn! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 42/1/18; Durcyn wins by 104 TBRs! |
19:51.07 | SaladFork | Silly gnome! |
19:51.10 | durcyn | mage always beat warlocks, chief |
19:51.16 | durcyn | er backwards |
19:51.17 | durcyn | no sleep |
19:51.21 | SaladFork | I was about to say... |
19:51.22 | SaladFork | lol |
19:51.24 | durcyn | i give up |
19:51.35 | SaladFork | BTW |
19:51.39 | SaladFork | Why's your spell hit so high? |
19:51.53 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@bb-87-82-26-73.ukonline.co.uk) |
19:51.56 | Killmore | !vs us Ysera Zaltor us Ysera Setia |
19:51.58 | ThraeBot | Killmore: Zaltor vs Setia! A L70 warlock and a L70 mage square off!; 0/21/40 vs 10/48/3; Zaltor wins by 111 TBRs! |
19:52.14 | durcyn | because of pve, ofc |
19:52.28 | SaladFork | Yeah, do you play with no shammies or anything? |
19:52.39 | Ominous | cncfanatics: hey |
19:52.40 | durcyn | i usually get tossed in the tank group |
19:52.42 | durcyn | sans shaman |
19:53.44 | SaladFork | yuck |
19:53.48 | SaladFork | My guild spoils me |
19:53.57 | SaladFork | I always have a shadow priest and a elemental shammy |
19:54.05 | durcyn | you're a mage. if you don't get a shaman and a shadow priest, then your tears drown the entire raid. |
19:54.17 | durcyn | conditioned from level one to whine and complain, and it works |
19:54.36 | SaladFork | Haha, no I don't, =P |
19:54.39 | SaladFork | <- Frost Mage |
19:54.45 | durcyn | every mage on the planet does it, don't lie |
19:54.54 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46372 10Relog/ (Relog.lua WindowOrder.lua tags.lua): |
19:54.54 | CIA-14 | Relog - Removes a reference to Recount |
19:54.54 | CIA-14 | - adds options to /relog |
19:54.55 | SaladFork | I have about 5% less DPS than a fire mage, but I don't pull threat, and my mana efficiency is great |
19:55.01 | SaladFork | Durcyn - look at my trinket |
19:55.03 | SaladFork | Mark of Defiance |
19:55.14 | SaladFork | And i have enough Of Spirit gear so that Evoc gives me a full second mana pull |
19:55.16 | durcyn | "gosh, you mean i might have to use a mana potion? no, no, give me two shadow priests" |
19:55.28 | SaladFork | Between evoc, mana gems, and mana potions, I can go for like 15 minutes of constant DPS |
19:55.28 | SaladFork | =) |
19:55.46 | SaladFork | Dur - I haven't used a mana potion for ages |
19:55.53 | SaladFork | If there's one thing my guild has, it's dps, lol |
19:56.00 | CIA-14 | 03curney * r46373 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (Font.lua FontSize.lua Justify.lua Paragraph.lua): |
19:56.00 | CIA-14 | Prat: |
19:56.00 | CIA-14 | $ part two of previous commit |
19:56.00 | CIA-14 | # renamed FontSize.lua to Font.lua |
19:56.00 | CIA-14 | # renamed Justify.lua to Paragraph.lua |
19:56.50 | durcyn | how expensive was the lunch, tem? |
19:57.03 | Tem | I didn't see the bill |
19:57.12 | NightHawkTheSane | how expensive did it taste? |
19:57.15 | Tem | but it's one of the nicest places in town |
19:58.15 | Thrae | Alright, what's a Feral Druid? Nev? |
19:58.25 | Cryect | what do you mean whats a feral druid? |
19:58.26 | dreamss | hehe "more than i make in a day im sure " :P |
19:58.36 | Thrae | Who plays a 70 Feral Druid :D |
19:58.40 | Cryect | I do |
19:58.57 | SaladFork | I have a 31 feral druid, =) |
19:58.59 | SaladFork | That's pretty close |
19:59.00 | Thrae | Cryect: Are you in your Feral gear? |
19:59.09 | Cryect | yeah |
19:59.22 | Thrae | Cryect: Gimmie your server & character name |
19:59.28 | Cryect | Stormreaver Cryect |
19:59.39 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nayfal |
19:59.40 | nevcairiel | there |
19:59.41 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9994 HP; 5750 Mana; 114 mana regen; 17 mp5; 5139 Armour; 1188 AP; 167.3 Melee DPS; 24.68% melee crit; 83 melee hit; 39.27% dodge; 8 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 371 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvayx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34cs8f ]] |
19:59.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
19:59.46 | SaladFork | Thrae - trying to make some algorithsm for feral druids? |
19:59.57 | Thrae | SaladFork: Yeah, since melee DPS is useless to them |
20:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae try eu gul'dan sharandris (you already have eu gul'dan sodexho i think :P) |
20:00.14 | SaladFork | Thrae - make sure you account for the stamina/agility buffs shapeshifts give you |
20:00.20 | nevcairiel | well he didnt logout in cat form |
20:00.22 | SaladFork | ie: cat gets bonus AP from agility |
20:00.24 | nevcairiel | so it will always be inaccurate |
20:00.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel you can just convert calculate that ~_~ |
20:00.43 | Cryect | well he should just look at the stats |
20:00.55 | sag_ich_nicht | that change dramatically with a shift. |
20:00.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
20:01.10 | Cryect | Agi is worth approximately 2.4 AP and Str is orth 2.4 AP |
20:01.20 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
20:01.23 | Cryect | oh wait |
20:01.24 | cncfanatics | ~seen Ominous |
20:01.27 | purl | ominous is currently on #wowace (9m 34s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 8m 48s, last said: 'cncfanatics: hey'. |
20:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan sodexho |
20:01.29 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Sodexho, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 10784 HP; 6830 Mana; 111 mana regen; 6164 Armour; 578 AP; 117.8 Melee DPS; 12.08% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 58 +heal; 152 defense; 23.82% dodge; 79 resilience;[[ TBR: 352 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2sgmu4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ebrrl ]] |
20:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan sharandris |
20:01.34 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Sharandris, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 10784 HP; 6830 Mana; 111 mana regen; 6503 Armour; 578 AP; 117.8 Melee DPS; 12.4% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 58 +heal; 152 defense; 23.82% dodge; 79 resilience;[[ TBR: 352 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2wyde8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2htzbp ]] |
20:01.37 | Cryect | can't say that for str since you don't look at the items except the total |
20:01.50 | Cryect | so its 2AP per Str then |
20:02.21 | Thrae | Cryect: It doesn't look at STR, just AP |
20:02.21 | Ominous | cncfanatics: hey |
20:02.28 | Ominous | cncfanatics: im at home now |
20:02.43 | Cryect | Thrae: then you are going to get wildly different values based on what form the druid is in |
20:02.58 | Cryect | I guess you can calculate of course |
20:03.13 | Cryect | so you just look at AP and Crit then? |
20:03.16 | Thrae | Cryect: True, it would be hard to correct for that |
20:03.37 | Thrae | Cryect: Oh wait, yes I can correct for that |
20:03.47 | Cryect | Heh I have 1136 AP in caster form and 2722 AP in cat form for example at the moment |
20:04.35 | Cryect | Str goes up by 20% when in catform + bonus AP from talents and form |
20:04.46 | Cryect | oh plus agi is worth 1AP in catform :-p |
20:04.59 | SaladFork | Or calculate for dire bear |
20:05.05 | xyu | why does grid need a layout:( why can't it just form to wahtever group size you're in |
20:05.37 | CIA-14 | 03curney * r46374 10Prat/Prat_Modules/includes.xml: Prat: it helps to tell the addon to use the newly renamed files. oops! okay this should be the 3rd and final part of the previous commit. |
20:05.51 | SaladFork | xyu - That bothers me too! |
20:07.03 | xyu | one of life's great mysteries i gues |
20:07.24 | Cryect | why does that bother you? |
20:07.32 | Cryect | I mean i have it set to show only 25 people in raids |
20:07.45 | Cryect | even though there is more than 25 people since I don't care about people sitting |
20:08.15 | xyu | and then i have to go allll the way to grid, hit the right click button, go to layout, raid layout, 10 man. for when i bg. |
20:08.18 | xyu | that's a lot of work ~_^ |
20:08.40 | JoshBorke | make a macro to do it for you |
20:09.00 | SaladFork | Josh - I did, >.< |
20:10.05 | JoshBorke | then what are you bitching about? |
20:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that it's dumb and not inovative. it should have an autoswitching feature. |
20:11.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and that wouldn't be inovative either |
20:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just common sense. |
20:11.32 | Cryect | its not common sense either |
20:11.53 | Cryect | if you always want to see everyone why not leave it in 40 man mode? |
20:11.58 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo (i=bsm89mod@084202183120.customer.alfanett.no) |
20:13.00 | xyu | it has a huge gray box |
20:13.02 | xyu | of empty space |
20:13.24 | xyu | i'm not knocking it |
20:13.27 | xyu | it's a great addon |
20:13.32 | xyu | it's just somethign i wish it did |
20:14.32 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
20:14.32 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
20:14.32 | Ominous | cncfanatics: you around? |
20:14.46 | dreamss | !c us stormscale dreamss |
20:14.58 | Thrae | !c eu antonidas nayfal |
20:15.03 | Thrae | Oopos |
20:15.29 | xyu | hmm i have a broken addon somewhere |
20:15.39 | xyu | average increasing rate 200kb/sec |
20:15.47 | xyu | up to 120mb |
20:15.48 | Silviu- | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Silviu |
20:16.22 | nevcairiel | now its dead |
20:17.00 | Silviu- | :( |
20:17.03 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
20:17.03 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
20:17.06 | Thrae | !c eu antonidas nayfal |
20:17.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9994 HP; 5750 Mana; 114 mana regen; 17 mp5; 5139 Armour; 1188 AP; 167.3 Melee DPS; 24.68% melee crit; 83 melee hit; 39.27% dodge; 8 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 514 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvayx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34cs8f ]] |
20:17.18 | Thrae | There we go -- his TBR doubled |
20:17.18 | Silviu- | !vs eu antonidas nevcairiel eu gorgonnash Silviu |
20:17.20 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Nevcairiel vs Silviu! Two 70 druids square off!; 1/0/60 vs 1/49/11; Silviu wins by 135 TBRs! |
20:17.27 | Silviu- | ha ! |
20:17.31 | Silviu- | My twink ownz u ! |
20:17.31 | Silviu- | ;p |
20:17.42 | SaladFork | There's no such thing as a 70 twink |
20:17.45 | SaladFork | That's oxymoronic |
20:18.02 | *** join/#wowace Mecdemort (n=chatzill@c-24-13-244-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
20:18.07 | SaladFork | Though for curiosity |
20:18.17 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash silviu |
20:18.19 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork vs Silviu! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 10/0/51 vs 1/49/11; Saladfork wins by 487 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
20:18.23 | SaladFork | heh |
20:18.25 | Silviu- | well my twink is a mt kara raid :) |
20:18.36 | Silviu- | :( |
20:18.54 | *** join/#wowace `Nike (n=niklas_r@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com) |
20:19.02 | Silviu- | !vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash littleone |
20:19.04 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Saladfork vs Littleone! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 41/0/20; Littleone wins by 147 TBRs! |
20:19.07 | Silviu- | :P |
20:19.12 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
20:19.12 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
20:19.18 | SaladFork | Warlocks always win, =( |
20:19.25 | SaladFork | !c eu gorgonnash littleone |
20:19.27 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11300 HP; 8560 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 152 spell hit; 1159 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1269); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27ucsn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2t4lwe ]] |
20:19.32 | Thrae | !vs us aerie peak saladfork eu gorgonnash silviu |
20:19.34 | SaladFork | Especially well-geared warlocks |
20:19.34 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Saladfork vs Silviu! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 10/0/51 vs 1/49/11; Saladfork wins by 487 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
20:19.43 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com) |
20:19.56 | Thrae | Oh wait, Silviu is Feral |
20:20.03 | SaladFork | =P |
20:20.03 | Cryect | yep |
20:20.31 | Silviu- | Thrae yes |
20:20.56 | SaladFork | hey Cryect |
20:21.00 | SaladFork | Got a few more suggestiosn for yeh, =D |
20:22.14 | Thrae | How does a Resto Druid attack anyway? Spells or Forms? |
20:22.25 | NightHawkTheSane | by running away. ;) |
20:22.29 | Silviu- | ^^ |
20:22.31 | durcyn | cyclone, hearthstone |
20:22.32 | Thrae | Heh |
20:22.32 | SaladFork | Thrae - melee |
20:22.40 | SaladFork | They slap you |
20:22.57 | Thrae | SaladFork: In caster form?! |
20:23.09 | Elkano | !c eu mannoroth isdirial |
20:23.12 | ThraeBot | Elkano: Isdirial, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9104 HP; 4475 Mana; 111 mana regen; 17 mp5; 4728 Armour; 109.1 Melee DPS; 9.51% melee crit; 14 melee hit; 145 defense; 19.85% dodge;[[ TBR: 459 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys48m7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34zqtm ]] |
20:23.12 | SaladFork | Thrae - I would guess they would cast spells if they had to kill |
20:23.14 | NightHawkTheSane | bear form ->bash -> travel form ->flee! |
20:23.18 | nevcairiel | Thrae: i wrath them generally |
20:23.21 | SaladFork | Being resto, they'd want to stay at range, since they're only wearing leather |
20:23.30 | Elkano | Thrae, you still only show def rating and not def :( |
20:24.12 | Silviu- | Elkano it`s ok that i added embeds.xml to Ebbs ? |
20:25.38 | Elkano | well, I was a bit pissed :/ but in the end it's something I wanted do do my self at some point anyways, so nevermind :) |
20:26.30 | Silviu- | Elkano oh, sorry then :( |
20:26.36 | Silviu- | U can revert if |
20:26.50 | Elkano | well, as I said, it's fine :) |
20:26.53 | Thrae | OK, a Resto Druid's TBRs should be a little higher now |
20:26.53 | Silviu- | Oky |
20:27.16 | Silviu- | I also added that line u commented in toc and commented it in embeds |
20:27.22 | Silviu- | That acelibrary |
20:27.25 | Elkano | Thrae, for feral does it include possible shifts to bear/cat? |
20:27.45 | Elkano | :) |
20:28.37 | Thrae | Elkano: Yes, it tries to detect if you're in Cat or Bear when you log off |
20:29.30 | Thrae | Elkano: IE, your score should be about the same in caster or in forms |
20:30.05 | Elkano | ok, so my equip still sucks :( ;) |
20:30.17 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:30.34 | Thrae | Elkano: How long ago did you check? I just made a special weight for ferals |
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20:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull Keribdis |
20:32.24 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Keribdis, Level 70 Troll Shaman (11/0/50). 6889 HP; 7913 Mana; 134 mana regen; 19 mp5; 6398 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 177 spell crit; 31 spell hit; 585 +spell dmg/heal; 4.32% dodge; 5% block; 24 resilience;[[ TBR: 528 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29k3h7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34tqm6 ]] |
20:32.46 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, shitty ele gear. >.> |
20:33.45 | Keias | I had a troll shaman once |
20:33.48 | Keias | I'm sorry |
20:33.53 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Silviu |
20:33.56 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Silviu, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/49/11). 8554 HP; 4655 Mana; 111 mana regen; 1182 AP; 166.8 Melee DPS; 19.28% melee crit; 130 melee hit; 20 +heal; 24.7% dodge; 19 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 371 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29vdfw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v5mjn ]] |
20:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i like her. :P |
20:34.21 | Silviu- | 1182 AP ? |
20:34.31 | Silviu- | i have 2800 or so |
20:35.10 | nevcairiel | no cat form |
20:35.25 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r46375 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add Hyjal Summit Bosses/Loot |
20:35.30 | Antiarc | If there are any Rails devs in here... |
20:35.36 | Antiarc | ...I highly recommend NetBeans Ruby IDE |
20:35.45 | Funkeh` | Silviu- |
20:35.50 | Antiarc | I just started using it, and I'm really hooked. |
20:35.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: oh? |
20:36.00 | NightHawkTheSane | cross platform? |
20:36.02 | Antiarc | Yeah, java |
20:36.05 | Silviu- | <3 Funkeh` :) |
20:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh,java. >< |
20:36.11 | Antiarc | I know |
20:36.14 | Antiarc | It's java-sluggish |
20:36.18 | Antiarc | But the featureset is killer. |
20:36.32 | Antiarc | Integrated realtime syntax check/intellisense, deprication/ambiguity warnings |
20:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll check itout |
20:36.40 | Antiarc | Integrated IRB shell, Subversion support |
20:36.47 | Antiarc | etc etc. |
20:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been using TextMate, which is nice, but kinda meh |
20:37.51 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: it looks like Threat-1.0's Revision keyword is borked somehow - I've got rev 46something, but the file says it's 45747 |
20:38.22 | snurre | wah, pidgin ftl |
20:39.13 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: You have another file in the lib with a higher revision |
20:39.36 | Gnarfoz | ... meaning? |
20:39.37 | Gnarfoz | :D |
20:39.38 | Silviu- | Antiarc btw look at one screen http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081207225818gm6.jpg |
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20:40.01 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: Threat's revision is the highest revision in the lib. Each file can contain its own revision. |
20:40.09 | Gnarfoz | ah |
20:40.11 | Gnarfoz | righty |
20:40.31 | Gnarfoz | it's just confusing, because the version check mechanism reports an older rev that it actually is |
20:40.44 | Antiarc | It shouldn't, no. |
20:41.16 | CIA-14 | 03antiarc * r46376 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: Leotheras -> Supremus |
20:41.21 | Gnarfoz | my Omen window says 45747 while I actually have the latest one |
20:41.27 | Gnarfoz | before the one you just commited, of course :p |
20:41.36 | Silviu- | Antiarc thx :) |
20:41.39 | Antiarc | Omen r 45xxx or Threat r45xxx? |
20:42.00 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: threat |
20:42.06 | Antiarc | hm |
20:42.07 | Gnarfoz | omen 45044, threat 45747 |
20:42.20 | Silviu- | That is the latest |
20:42.24 | Silviu- | That it shows at me too |
20:44.15 | Arrowmaster | oh wait funkeh did a commit after my 45747 commit so its not my fault |
20:44.30 | Gnarfoz | yes, blame him! |
20:44.40 | Funkeh` | what? |
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20:51.13 | Silviu- | Bah Supremus is strange :) |
20:51.55 | ckknight | Antiarc: I need some money |
20:52.43 | ckknight | gimmeh |
20:52.50 | nevcairiel | dont we all? |
20:52.51 | Silviu- | I need some money too |
20:53.05 | Chompers | ckknight: whore yourself out |
20:53.10 | Silviu- | Around 500 euro :P so i buy my new comp ^^ |
20:53.18 | ckknight | I only have 8-slot bags |
20:53.21 | ckknight | I need to upgrade |
20:53.27 | sb | computer for 500 eur? |
20:53.28 | SaladFork | Ck - get a tailor |
20:53.32 | Silviu- | 800 |
20:53.32 | SaladFork | Netherweave bags fall otu of our asses |
20:53.33 | Silviu- | http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/20930/ |
20:53.35 | Silviu- | :) |
20:53.40 | Silviu- | But 300 i have atm :P |
20:53.44 | sb | hmm |
20:53.47 | ckknight | yea, I need money for the mats |
20:53.49 | sb | 2nd LCD for me next week :o |
20:53.53 | SaladFork | ck - get a tailor friend |
20:53.57 | Silviu- | sb giv money ! :) |
20:53.58 | Chompers | ckk: what level are you now? |
20:54.02 | ckknight | 46! |
20:54.12 | Chompers | only character? |
20:54.15 | SaladFork | I farmed for 2 hours this morning, and I have enough netherweave cloth for 6 bags |
20:54.34 | nevcairiel | heh i could throw like 5 16 slot bags at you |
20:54.44 | art3mis | Silviu-: whast a ron? |
20:54.50 | ckknight | Chompers: pretty much |
20:55.06 | Chompers | that's a shame ckk |
20:55.10 | ckknight | why? |
20:55.13 | art3mis | or rather what is it in dollars ;P |
20:55.30 | Chompers | i imagine you'd make so many addons if you know what the end game ui was like |
20:56.04 | Chompers | or find ideas for new addons while you're raiding |
20:56.43 | ckknight | first things first: Gotta finish AceConfig-3.0 |
20:56.47 | ckknight | after that, we'll see |
20:56.48 | Silviu- | art3mis i live in romania our money :) |
20:56.53 | ckknight | I was thinking about a guild calendar thing |
20:57.09 | Silviu- | art3mis let me look |
20:57.47 | Chompers | level 46 is pretty crappy though |
20:57.48 | Silviu- | 1050 dollars |
20:57.58 | JoshBorke | ckknight: you should check with Kaelten, he was working on a mod called Combine which would be a guild calendar |
20:57.59 | Chompers | espically for a paladin, every level is such a grind |
20:59.00 | Antiarc | Prot paladin + undead = AOE grinding happytime |
20:59.09 | ckknight | JoshBorke: yea, I know, it never went anywhere |
20:59.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: I need monies! |
20:59.19 | Antiarc | k |
20:59.25 | Antiarc | dailies = awesome |
20:59.35 | Diao | uhh |
20:59.35 | Diao | wtf |
20:59.38 | Diao | after latest prat update |
20:59.42 | Diao | all my chat settings are fucked up :( |
20:59.44 | Chompers | he's 46 |
20:59.49 | Antiarc | I know |
20:59.52 | Chompers | it's not like he's going to do dailies :P |
20:59.53 | Antiarc | I mean my dailies are awesome |
20:59.58 | Chompers | hahah :P |
20:59.58 | Antiarc | I trip over my feet and make 30g |
21:00.07 | durcyn | "everyone's dailies but ck's are awesome" |
21:00.08 | durcyn | so mean |
21:00.15 | Chompers | netherwing ledge is basically made of money |
21:00.24 | Chompers | you just scoop some of it up and use it |
21:00.24 | SaladFork | Oh yeah |
21:00.34 | SaladFork | 2 hours worth of dailies is 200-250g easy |
21:00.51 | SaladFork | And back when I still got rep, it was nice |
21:00.51 | SaladFork | =P |
21:00.51 | Antiarc | Well, you can only do 10 dailies per day |
21:00.56 | SaladFork | Yeah |
21:00.59 | Antiarc | And they're usually about 12g per |
21:01.00 | Antiarc | So 120g |
21:01.01 | Antiarc | :P |
21:01.03 | SaladFork | No |
21:01.04 | ramoz | SaladFork: 10 dailies, 11.99g each |
21:01.05 | SaladFork | one quest gives you 18g |
21:01.12 | Chompers | wish they were all 18g like that cart one |
21:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | so 130g. :P |
21:01.15 | Antiarc | okay, so 126g |
21:01.15 | SaladFork | And you guys aren't adding in money from grey drops you get while during it |
21:01.23 | ramoz | well |
21:01.26 | SaladFork | I get 40-50g EASY while doing the netherwing mine quests and the slow death quest |
21:01.35 | Antiarc | Well, I cna probably rake up about 400g worth of herbs in 2 hours. |
21:01.36 | SaladFork | And not to mention the money you get from DEing greens while you do it |
21:01.38 | ramoz | your not making 70-120 on greus |
21:01.39 | Diao | oh no woner |
21:01.42 | Diao | a bunch of stuff renamed |
21:01.48 | art3mis | Silviu-: hehe i bought a machine just like that about 2 weeks ago for 500usd ;P |
21:01.59 | SaladFork | Antiarc - I'm a tailor/enchanter, both money sinks, no extra money, =( |
21:02.00 | Silviu- | art3mis bah wtf ? |
21:02.00 | Antiarc | Augh, my poor, poor RAM |
21:02.04 | Silviu- | art3mis new ? |
21:02.18 | Antiarc | SaladFork: I was an enchanter/engineer up till a couple of weeks ago |
21:02.24 | Silviu- | art3mis this is the cheapest i could get |
21:02.27 | Antiarc | When I realized that engineering was never getting any love |
21:02.31 | art3mis | Silviu-: the laptop that popped up first that is |
21:02.34 | Antiarc | So I'm all "k, herbs" and generally drown in money now |
21:02.38 | SaladFork | I'd _happily_ drop tailoring if I didn't need it for the epic set |
21:02.45 | SaladFork | And I've shelled WAAAY too much into enchanting to drop that |
21:02.47 | SaladFork | So I'm stuck |
21:04.35 | Keias | psh, you silly money making people |
21:04.36 | SaladFork | I need to get an alt up to 70, throw him an epic flyer and herbalism, and let him make my money |
21:04.55 | Keias | I'm a prot warrior with engineer and blacksmithing, you dunno trouble! |
21:05.05 | SaladFork | Wow, pain. |
21:05.14 | SaladFork | Though I'd rather have Blacksmithing than Enchanting |
21:05.18 | SaladFork | At least you can use the AH |
21:05.23 | Keias | lol yeah |
21:05.31 | Keias | At least I can use Dailies for respecs |
21:05.40 | Keias | Takes me forever to kill things though :( |
21:05.53 | SaladFork | Yeah, the only tanks that can grind well are Feral druids |
21:06.02 | SaladFork | Cat spec and Bear spec are almost identical |
21:06.09 | SaladFork | And overlap so much it's more gear dependant than spec dependant |
21:06.15 | SaladFork | Grinding set ftw |
21:07.26 | Antiarc | Prot paladins are grinding machines |
21:07.27 | Antiarc | Srsly |
21:07.29 | Antiarc | They just never die |
21:07.53 | Antiarc | I've seen one of our paladin tanks do some seriously obscene stuff |
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21:08.01 | art3mis | heh me too |
21:08.26 | art3mis | 14 nether guys near mana forge ultris |
21:08.35 | art3mis | came out with more hp and mana than he went in with |
21:08.38 | art3mis | solo |
21:08.54 | art3mis | just sooo wrong |
21:08.59 | Antiarc | yes. |
21:10.10 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: i just found a major Threat-1.0 problem |
21:10.17 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Oh? |
21:10.28 | Arrowmaster | fucked up svn:keywords |
21:10.36 | Antiarc | what and where? |
21:11.05 | Arrowmaster | npc modules dont have Revision |
21:11.23 | Arrowmaster | some have Date and Rev, but not Revision |
21:11.39 | ckknight | Rev acts as revision |
21:11.50 | Arrowmaster | ok |
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21:12.53 | Antiarc | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070810/bush-war-adviser/ |
21:12.57 | Antiarc | k, yeah, moving to canada |
21:13.03 | Antiarc | wtb /countryinvite |
21:13.12 | CIA-14 | 03curney * r46377 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/History.lua: Prat: fixed issue reported on forum related to a typo introduced with my recent commit. |
21:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeah, i saw that.>< |
21:13.22 | Chaotic_D | Hello. I'm just stopping by while I try to make sense of wowace. hard to figure out where to start. |
21:13.28 | NightHawkTheSane | fortunately, canada is only a short drive away! |
21:13.41 | Chaotic_D | I'm in Canada. |
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21:15.22 | Antiarc | Chaotic_D: Well, there's your problem, obviously |
21:15.34 | Antiarc | You probably want "Wowace, eh" |
21:15.52 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
21:15.54 | CIA-14 | 03arrowmaster * r46378 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: Threat-1.0: svn:keywords fix |
21:15.57 | Antiarc | AceLibraryEh:("Threat-1.0"):Aboot() |
21:16.06 | Chaotic_D | there's already an "eh" in "Ace. |
21:16.15 | Antiarc | But not at the end! :) |
21:17.13 | Diao | ok |
21:17.15 | Diao | Antiarc i just tested |
21:17.22 | Diao | disabling everything except ace2 and sanity/sanityinventory |
21:17.31 | Diao | and in the sanity window it still doesn't show how many of an item i have :( |
21:17.47 | SaladFork | Obviously it's quite in-sane |
21:17.47 | SaladFork | =D |
21:18.11 | Antiarc | hrm. Okay |
21:18.16 | Antiarc | I'll see what I can do ti fix it up |
21:19.07 | Chaotic_D | I have to admit, it's really confusing trying to make sense of this stuff. |
21:19.12 | Antiarc | Where are you stuck? |
21:19.26 | Grum_ | mmm multiple people are reporting getting 'No player named 'xxxx' is currently playing.' after being in a group with someone |
21:19.34 | Grum_ | does anyone know anything about that? |
21:19.41 | SaladFork | Grum - I get a few whenever I log on |
21:19.47 | Grum_ | or does anyone know a way you can track which addons could possibly do that? |
21:19.57 | Grum_ | because something is doing a /who |
21:20.11 | Antiarc | Sounds like a whisper to me. |
21:20.14 | Antiarc | Not a who |
21:20.29 | Chaotic_D | who, me? I can't figure out what my options are. heck, even downloads seem either spread out, or in a huge incomprehensible pile. |
21:20.33 | SaladFork | Yeah, ANti's right |
21:20.37 | SaladFork | A who would say "0 players found" |
21:20.42 | SaladFork | Some script is whispering people, o.O |
21:20.49 | Antiarc | Chaotic_D: Are you wanting to use the addons, or develop them? |
21:20.49 | SaladFork | I get that whne I logon, Grum says people get it after leaving a group |
21:20.50 | SaladFork | zomg |
21:21.12 | Chaotic_D | do I look at Ace or Ace2? I've done a bit of C++ before. |
21:21.32 | Chaotic_D | I'm looking to make one. I think. |
21:21.48 | Antiarc | Okay :) |
21:21.48 | SaladFork | Chaotic_D - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
21:21.48 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
21:21.53 | SaladFork | Beat you! XD |
21:21.58 | Antiarc | Damn you, SaladFork. |
21:22.02 | JoshBorke | you THINK you're looking to make one? |
21:22.10 | Saryai | Is it just me... Or are Parrot's left/right directions backwards? |
21:22.14 | Chaotic_D | well, depends wether I can or not. ;> |
21:22.15 | SaladFork | Josh - he's exploring the territory, =P |
21:22.23 | Antiarc | I'll get you next time, SaladFork! *fistshake* |
21:22.42 | Chaotic_D | I remember I once wanted to make a UT2006 mod, but that was way too complicated for me to figure out. |
21:23.06 | Antiarc | WoW mods are a lot less complex than UT mods, in general |
21:23.13 | Saryai | Aye. |
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21:23.53 | Grum_ | can i see which addon is doing that? |
21:23.56 | Grum_ | trying to send a message? |
21:23.58 | SaladFork | And WowAce makes a _lot_ of things easier |
21:24.03 | SaladFork | Grum - if you find out, let me know, = |
21:24.04 | SaladFork | =\ |
21:24.17 | Antiarc | grep your addons directory for WHISPER |
21:24.30 | Chaotic_D | I'm thinking of an addon that tells you where to go next for something like powerlevelling (obviously I wouldn't release info from any one else's published guides, but maybe it could be scriptable) |
21:24.35 | SaladFork | Grum - find all addons that user WHISPER, and then have everyone post their addons and look for something in comon |
21:24.40 | SaladFork | Chaotic_D - that would be easy |
21:24.50 | SaladFork | A simple GetPlayerLevel and self:Print() |
21:25.05 | Chaotic_D | maybe another one for automatically equipping the best equipment you pick up, based on class/talent build/other personalized choices. |
21:25.16 | SaladFork | Slightly harder, but still relatively easy |
21:25.18 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: tekkub has started writing a mod to help with power leveling called TourGuide |
21:25.38 | Chaotic_D | ah. :S wonder if I should bother then. |
21:25.47 | SaladFork | You should |
21:25.51 | Grum_ | SaladFork: mm will do |
21:25.51 | SaladFork | It would be good practice for the future |
21:26.02 | Grum_ | now i just need grep on a windows box .. oh well cygwin :) |
21:26.13 | SaladFork | Grum - google! |
21:26.17 | Chaotic_D | I really hate deciding on equipment to wear and throw out and keep though. it would be nice if I could make it all automatic. I just spend too much time on it. |
21:26.20 | SaladFork | Wait |
21:26.30 | SaladFork | Windows Explorer has a built in "Search for text in files" |
21:26.31 | SaladFork | lol |
21:26.43 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: thats a far cry from grep,though |
21:26.52 | SaladFork | Chaotic - if you get RatingBuster, you can have it compare your gear and tell you what you gain/lose between two pieces of gear |
21:26.57 | SaladFork | Night - it accomplishes the task he needs |
21:27.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, i just stabbed myself on the roof of my mouth with a chip. >< |
21:28.22 | SaladFork | No worse than poking your eye with a Cheeto |
21:28.40 | Grum_ | SaladFork: you can not be serious about that |
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21:28.48 | SaladFork | Grum - which? |
21:28.55 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, aside from the slight pain, it's not that bad, but I kind of like the taste of blood. >.> |
21:28.58 | Grum_ | are there addons who block the 'second' error message of any kind? |
21:29.10 | Grum_ | because when i try to whisper a person who gives an error i see nothing |
21:29.19 | Grum_ | and when i whisper asdasdasd i get the error once |
21:29.22 | Grum_ | and after that .. not again |
21:29.48 | SaladFork | I have a feelign that's what WoW does |
21:29.50 | Grum_ | so it might be that the addon doing that gets resetted and for some reason another addon is trying to send people who are offline messages |
21:29.50 | Gagorian | Well, how about you get the error message only the first time? |
21:30.11 | Gagorian | AS in, it actually errors only when you whisper a new person |
21:30.13 | Grum_ | well the problem is that with some other people i constantly get errors for no reason what-so-ever |
21:30.22 | SaladFork | o.O |
21:30.26 | Grum_ | and i mean constantly - as more than 1 per minute |
21:31.05 | Grum_ | sooo, any addon which might have that 'feature' and is possibly broken? :) |
21:31.16 | SaladFork | Grum - what did you mean? |
21:31.19 | SaladFork | [05:28pm] [Grum_] SaladFork: you can not be serious about that |
21:31.39 | Grum_ | about windows search and infile searches |
21:31.44 | Grum_ | if something is broken it's that |
21:31.49 | ckknight | Grum_: oh, AceComm does that |
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21:32.01 | ckknight | you need to wait 10 seconds in between |
21:32.09 | Grum_ | ah k |
21:32.14 | HarveyDent | the latest update to prat changes the entire games font |
21:32.22 | Grum_ | lets see if i can lift that 10 seconds |
21:32.22 | HarveyDent | not sure if that's intended but it does |
21:32.38 | Grum_ | Prat has the last word in your gamefont, just set it to the right font :) |
21:32.51 | HarveyDent | not really.. |
21:33.00 | HarveyDent | being as prat specifically says "Chat window font" |
21:33.08 | HarveyDent | not entire UI font (including Pitbull, etc. etc.) |
21:33.17 | HarveyDent | it really screwed up a lot of my settings everywhere else now. |
21:33.21 | Grum_ | mmm you didn't isntall clearfont? ;) |
21:33.29 | HarveyDent | no I didn't. |
21:34.14 | HarveyDent | I have to /console reloadui every time I zone |
21:34.39 | SaladFork | harvey - try /rl |
21:34.42 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46379 10Cartographer_Data/ (8 files): Cartographer_Data: some fixes, drycoded but no syntax errors |
21:35.01 | SaladFork | Ominous - How are you syntax checking? |
21:35.24 | HarveyDent | what does /rl do? |
21:35.34 | ckknight | reloads the ui |
21:35.52 | HarveyDent | isn't that the same as /console reloadui? |
21:35.58 | SaladFork | It's shorter and quicker to type, =D |
21:36.07 | HarveyDent | ok... well. heh thank you |
21:36.11 | SaladFork | which is also the same as /script ReloadUI() |
21:36.11 | HarveyDent | but that isn't the bigger issue |
21:36.12 | Gagorian | Has anyone else experienced issues with in-game voice chat on PTR turning peoples voices into chipmunks? |
21:36.22 | Chaotic_D | is there a way to get gather data so you don't have to rebuild it yourself all the time? |
21:36.26 | HarveyDent | Im not about to type that every time I zone |
21:36.29 | HarveyDent | it's an issue with Prat |
21:36.38 | SaladFork | Chaotic - you can enable database sharing... |
21:36.46 | HarveyDent | it was working perfectly last night and just now, after updating, all my fonts in game are all screwy |
21:36.53 | SaladFork | Harvey - try updateing again |
21:37.37 | HarveyDent | there's no new update |
21:37.43 | Chaotic_D | it's been a while since I even played WoW. I was thinking of getting back into it. |
21:37.46 | HarveyDent | I have the latest - I literally just updated like 10 mnutes ago |
21:37.58 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46380 10Cartographer_Data/ (3 files): Cartographer_Data: helps if i delete the old fiels |
21:37.59 | Ominous | SaladFork: luac |
21:38.11 | cncfanatics | Ominous, home now ? :p |
21:38.49 | SaladFork | Omi - that work with Windows? |
21:38.51 | HarveyDent | yeah using r46377 it still does it |
21:39.02 | Ominous | cncfanatics: yes |
21:39.06 | Ominous | SaladFork: ya |
21:39.11 | cncfanatics | tried out FB yet ? what u think of it this far ? :p |
21:39.14 | Ominous | cncfanatics: watching friends tho |
21:39.32 | cncfanatics | heh |
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21:41.27 | charon | isn't recount supposed to have a detailed combat log type of display? how do i activate it? or what addon was that? |
21:41.41 | SaladFork | Click on somebody's bar in Recount |
21:41.49 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46381 10FlexBar2/Layout/Layout.lua: |
21:41.49 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
21:41.49 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua: |
21:41.49 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
21:42.08 | HarveyDent | the only other issue I know of with Prat is that every time you change chat frame/tab |
21:42.14 | HarveyDent | the chat buttons briefly show up |
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21:42.23 | HarveyDent | even if hidden, etc. |
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21:43.05 | HarveyDent | an example: http://ctscreens.net/8484 |
21:43.41 | Arrowmaster | i have mine offscreen so i havent noticed that |
21:43.51 | Diao | same |
21:43.59 | Diao | well i don't switch tabs anyway |
21:44.02 | Diao | i have mine all separated |
21:44.34 | HarveyDent | yeah it's minor but I'm surprised it's not been reported before |
21:44.46 | HarveyDent | most people using prat must only use one chat view (or two separate ones) |
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21:45.14 | HarveyDent | but yeah - it's brief, less than a second - but very noticeable. And initially upon loading the game, they appear in the wrong place. Like if I told them to be hidden, but be on the left of the frame |
21:45.15 | SaladFork | Harvey - I don't see them in the screenie |
21:45.16 | SaladFork | o.O |
21:45.40 | HarveyDent | they appear on the right of the frame a few ties (when I switch tabs) and then finally go to where they should be (even though, in the first place, they should never appear) |
21:46.25 | HarveyDent | they are to the right of the chat frame, underneath the macro buttons |
21:46.25 | HarveyDent | also another issue in prat |
21:46.25 | HarveyDent | sec.. for pastey |
21:47.04 | HarveyDent | http://ace.pastey.net/72141 |
21:47.38 | HarveyDent | that's if I hit "enter" (to open the editbox to start typing) and then manualy click on the editbox |
21:48.12 | HarveyDent | those are my top two issues with prat, atm |
21:49.04 | HarveyDent | and I am using r46377 of Prat .. not sure why it's reporting as a lower revision there in !Swatter |
21:49.59 | Diao | why use swatter o_O |
21:50.16 | HarveyDent | why not? I don't know heh |
21:50.25 | HarveyDent | it works the same as all others, from what I've seen |
21:52.02 | JoshBorke | you're exactly right, it does work the same :-) |
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21:52.49 | Diao | if you replied to why use swatter.. i got dced :P |
21:53.09 | SaladFork | [05:50pm] [Diao] why use swatter o_O |
21:53.10 | SaladFork | [05:50pm] [HarveyDent] why not? I don't know heh |
21:53.10 | SaladFork | [05:50pm] [HarveyDent] it works the same as all others, from what I've seen |
21:53.10 | SaladFork | [05:52pm] [JoshBorke] you're exactly right, it does work the same :-) |
21:53.12 | HarveyDent | I was just saying I don't see why not really. I mean it works the same for the end user as far as I can tell |
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21:53.24 | Diao | ah |
21:53.39 | Diao | i never actually used it lol |
21:53.52 | Diao | always just used bugsack since it's on fubar |
21:53.57 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46382 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: |
21:53.57 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
21:53.57 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
21:53.57 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
21:54.11 | HarveyDent | well - I might try some others but this one seems to do what I need. |
21:54.28 | JoshBorke | they all do the same |
21:54.54 | HarveyDent | Bottom line though - I hope those two issues are resolved with Prat. |
21:55.08 | HarveyDent | they aren't terribly major but they do get in the way time to time |
21:55.25 | HarveyDent | and I'm sure aren't intended to occur by the author, one way or the other. |
21:59.44 | Chaotic_D | how can you enable database sharing with Gatherer? that doesn't seem to be a feature of it, unless someone else made a modified one that can. |
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21:59.53 | Wiebbe | yo all |
22:00.05 | Chaotic_D | Hello. |
22:00.46 | SaladFork | Ditch it and get Cartographer |
22:00.47 | SaladFork | =D |
22:01.01 | HarveyDent | chaotic |
22:01.10 | HarveyDent | as much as I like gatherer (I used it for nearly two years) |
22:01.17 | HarveyDent | I switched to Cartographer_Gather |
22:01.34 | HarveyDent | it uses way less resources and does exactly the same thing (even with the minimap icons changng, etc.) |
22:01.38 | HarveyDent | And, has built in sharing |
22:02.03 | HarveyDent | You can even convert your gatherer data to cartographer_gather |
22:02.15 | Chaotic_D | ah, cool. |
22:02.20 | Chaotic_D | thanks. |
22:02.22 | cncfanatics | Bedtime |
22:02.29 | HarveyDent | I was hesitant but it was worth it after the jump |
22:02.31 | HarveyDent | np :) |
22:02.42 | cncfanatics | Ominous, please tell me what u thought of it tomorrow :) |
22:02.43 | charon | SaladFork: thanks, but i was actually thinking of a table display of the actual combat log, still can't find it :( |
22:02.44 | Wiebbe | can anyone tell me where i put this: svn:eol-style native? |
22:02.46 | cncfanatics | or PM me on forums |
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22:04.20 | Silviu- | Wiebbe in file properties in tortoise |
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22:04.38 | CIA-14 | 03wiebbe * r46383 10wRlog/ (Core.lua textures/select.tga wRlog.toc): |
22:04.38 | CIA-14 | wRlog: |
22:04.38 | CIA-14 | - Added ability to start bids on items using an RP system. Uses an normal auction wise standard bidding system with matching bids. Integrates in the raid report. |
22:04.52 | Wiebbe | heh |
22:04.54 | Wiebbe | i jus found it :) |
22:04.57 | Silviu- | :) |
22:05.11 | SaladFork | Hmm, I should probably get myself SVN access |
22:05.17 | Silviu- | Hmm what u ppl recomend to go to after supremus ? Akama ? ;) |
22:06.23 | Mudkipz | of course |
22:06.31 | Mudkipz | akama is like loot pinata |
22:06.37 | Silviu- | Easy ? |
22:06.40 | Mudkipz | very |
22:06.44 | Silviu- | Okay |
22:06.49 | Silviu- | Supremus was a nice fight :) |
22:06.59 | Mudkipz | I like akama more than supremus |
22:07.05 | Mudkipz | supremus fight is very "touchy" |
22:07.06 | Silviu- | Hard with those volcanos but that`s all :) |
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22:07.43 | durcyn | i hate supremus only because it gives me nightmares of archimonde |
22:07.48 | Adirelle | ~framexml |
22:07.48 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
22:08.03 | Silviu- | Hmm in Bigwigs is no file for Akama |
22:08.15 | Silviu- | Hmm he do no special abilities ? ;) |
22:08.17 | durcyn | there's nothing to track on akama |
22:08.23 | Mudkipz | yup |
22:08.25 | durcyn | you just blow up adds until the shade gets loose, then burn it down |
22:08.39 | Silviu- | Ok :) |
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22:08.44 | Silviu- | Never saw him :) |
22:08.55 | Silviu- | Must look on some vids till tomorrow :) |
22:09.30 | Arrowmaster | wtb mages for raids |
22:09.48 | Silviu- | Wts wl :) |
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22:10.42 | Arrowmaster | anybody know for sure if you can boil the water in SSC without killing hydross? |
22:11.05 | SaladFork | Where can I get LUAC? |
22:11.09 | Arrowmaster | total fail tonight on mages and tanks with resist gear |
22:11.09 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: You can |
22:11.14 | [dRaCo] | afaik it's just killing all those mob groups around the lurker |
22:11.18 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: We do it any time we don't have one of our Hydross tanks |
22:11.28 | Silviu- | Arrowmaster just kill all platforms |
22:11.32 | Silviu- | 5 ? |
22:11.36 | Silviu- | Or how many are there |
22:11.41 | Silviu- | Then for 2 h the water boils |
22:11.42 | Silviu- | ;) |
22:11.51 | Silviu- | And no fish around :) |
22:11.51 | Chompers | that'll give you an hour of attempts |
22:11.56 | Chaotic_D | ah, I wish it wasn't cheating to have an auto-navigation (by foot/mount) add-on. I remember long ago there was one. :> they really want you to be at the keyboard when you're online. |
22:12.10 | Arrowmaster | SaladFork: search sf.net for something like 'wow lua 51' |
22:14.22 | Tinyboom | prat_chat bubbles are wrongly aligned suddenly.... :( |
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22:18.40 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46384 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua Relog.lua): Relog - Fixes changing font & row height will be immediately reflected now |
22:19.44 | sb | Cryect: scroll down doesnt work :o |
22:20.38 | Grum_ | can you hook: SendChatMessage and see whatever called it? |
22:20.40 | Cryect | huh? |
22:20.45 | Cryect | what do you mean scroll down doesn't work? |
22:20.53 | Grum_ | and if there any other way to see which addon is trying to whisper who |
22:21.30 | Grum_ | [00:10:24] <Arrowmaster> anybody know for sure if you can boil the water in SSC without killing hydross? <-- yes 100% sure you can |
22:21.36 | sb | Cryect: if i scroll down it should stay at the bottom when new entries are added, right? |
22:22.05 | Cryect | yeah if you are fully scrolled down yes |
22:22.57 | sb | hmm yes but it seems to stop after some time |
22:23.03 | Cryect | strange |
22:23.06 | sb | yup :) |
22:23.17 | Cryect | other than that how does it feel |
22:23.18 | sb | and it seems to be off by 1 |
22:23.26 | sb | i still can stroll down 1 entry |
22:23.27 | Arrowmaster | Grum_: if you want to see what its trying to whisper and use that to figure out the addon you can do /script hooksecurefunc("SendChatMessage", function(...) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...) end) |
22:23.33 | sb | if it works |
22:23.34 | Chompers | we don't even attempt hydross, we go straight for lurker |
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22:24.22 | Grum_ | yeah thanks arrow, i just found something similar on the wiki :D |
22:24.33 | Cryect | the scrollbar is still going to look like it can scroll |
22:24.36 | sb | hmmm very strange |
22:24.37 | Cryect | but it should really be at the bottom |
22:24.48 | Pkekyo | they nerfed windfury?! |
22:24.52 | Cryect | its a slight issue with how scrollbars work |
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22:26.09 | Grum_ | Arrowmaster: that worked but i still get 'No person named 'xxx' is playing.' |
22:26.13 | Cryect | messed at all with adding columns or setting filters? |
22:26.17 | Grum_ | any other methods of sending a whisper? |
22:26.21 | Cryect | just curious if they seemed to be working right for others |
22:26.26 | Grum_ | can i hook more filters? |
22:26.29 | sb | heh wtf |
22:26.31 | Grum_ | erm functions |
22:26.42 | sb | Cryect: not i get some old entries |
22:26.45 | sb | while doing nothing |
22:26.50 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt say what its trying to whisper? |
22:26.53 | Cryect | upgrade |
22:26.55 | Cryect | its a bug |
22:26.57 | sb | i stand around and get some messages about shadowfiend and failed casts |
22:27.10 | Cryect | yeah there was an issue with the way I was handling getting logs |
22:27.16 | Cryect | I think they are all fixed in the latest version |
22:27.28 | sb | ah okay, didnt see anything in changelogs |
22:27.59 | Cryect | or there is another chance you ran intoa bug I've not figured out how to replicate |
22:28.01 | Cryect | but know of |
22:28.12 | Grum_ | Arrowmaster: nope |
22:28.16 | Cryect | where the number of logs doesn't actually equal the value being saved :-p |
22:28.20 | Grum_ | it tried sending a message myself - it shows perfectly |
22:28.26 | Grum_ | and the errors are still pooring in |
22:28.59 | Grum_ | So does anyone else know something which can cause the error: 'No person named 'xxx' is playing.' |
22:29.01 | SaladFork | Grum - look up on Wowwiki what else displays that error |
22:29.04 | Grum_ | kk |
22:29.24 | sb | nope Cryect |
22:29.26 | sb | still doing that stuff :o |
22:29.40 | Cryect | prolly that other bug I know of but don't know how its caused then |
22:29.42 | sb | i run around and see some old messages popping up |
22:29.44 | sb | hm yep |
22:29.50 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
22:29.50 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
22:30.07 | SaladFork | Find out when that error is called |
22:30.09 | SaladFork | What command |
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22:30.45 | Grum_ | yes the problem is i have no idea what next to SendChatMessage can send chatmessages and cause that error |
22:31.24 | Arrowmaster | SendAddonMessage? |
22:31.32 | Grum_ | lets hook that one too |
22:32.47 | Cryect | sb: try resetting the data and see if it stil occurs |
22:32.47 | Grum_ | also not showing anything |
22:33.24 | Funkeh` | !ap 1700 |
22:33.25 | ThraeBot | Funkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 436, 3v3: 498, 5v5: 623 |
22:34.04 | Grum_ | Arrowmaster: any more ideas? :/ |
22:34.09 | Funkeh` | do you get points for all 3 arenas ratings? or only the highest? |
22:34.09 | Arrowmaster | nope |
22:34.15 | Arrowmaster | highest |
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22:35.07 | Funkeh` | !ap 1800 |
22:35.08 | ThraeBot | Funkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1800 is, 2v2: 532, 3v3: 608, 5v5: 760 |
22:35.16 | Funkeh` | !ap 1850 |
22:35.17 | ThraeBot | Funkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 1850 is, 2v2: 579, 3v3: 662, 5v5: 828 |
22:36.54 | charon | "Relog\WindowOrder.lua:58: attempt to index global 'Recount' (a nil value)" |
22:37.01 | charon | doesn't that work stand-alone? :) |
22:37.35 | Cryect | its supposed to |
22:37.40 | Cryect | but I have some copy and paste things left over! |
22:39.23 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46385 10Relog/WindowOrder.lua: Relog - Removed another entry to Recount |
22:40.59 | Chaotic_D | work on this later. time to go eat. |
22:41.03 | Chaotic_D | thanks for the help. |
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23:02.56 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r46386 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua core.lua): Cartographer_Data: manually replaced the $Rev tag to include a revision until the files are changed |
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23:04.30 | Mudkipz | oooo shi-- |
23:04.33 | Mudkipz | what happaned to my prat |
23:04.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i ate it. |
23:05.09 | Mudkipz | ah toggle shadow I see what you did there |
23:05.14 | Mudkipz | crisis averted |
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23:06.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah i was like wtf shadows? |
23:07.00 | Mudkipz | I think im gonna try out a new font now... |
23:07.46 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46387 10Relog/GUI_Table.lua: Relog - Fixes relog being a performance hog when hidden |
23:08.14 | mjc | iPhone colloquy ftw |
23:08.32 | Mudkipz | what's the name of the default WoW chat font anyway? it's been so long |
23:09.35 | Arrowmaster | isnt iphone colloquy just a webapp? |
23:10.16 | fireglow | has to be |
23:11.21 | mjc | The official one yeah; the phone sleeps after 60sec so not a lot of point in doing it the itherway |
23:11.57 | mjc | fireglow no, there is a term, nes emu, and DOOM port |
23:12.20 | fireglow | did that also work after the latest patch? -.- |
23:12.30 | mjc | of course |
23:15.00 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46388 10Relog/GUI_Table.lua: Relog - Bug fix |
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23:20.41 | CIA-14 | 03javek * r46389 10CrushChance/main.lua: |
23:20.41 | CIA-14 | CrushChance: |
23:20.41 | CIA-14 | Added default level functionality, allows you to set a default level to use for hit calculations when you have no target. |
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23:25.58 | SaladFork | gay |
23:26.07 | SaladFork | args.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function |
23:26.11 | SaladFork | gay => arg |
23:26.14 | SaladFork | I mised home row, >.< |
23:26.29 | SaladFork | Anyone know how to fix that? My code looks right... |
23:28.11 | Grum_ | paste code? :) |
23:28.18 | SaladFork | hehe |
23:28.18 | SaladFork | okay |
23:28.33 | Grum_ | while i'm still allmost awake to be of any help O.o |
23:28.44 | Grum_ | this must possibly the worst night ever .. |
23:28.53 | Grum_ | we kept wiping on gruul ... on ... gruul! :'( |
23:28.58 | SaladFork | yuck |
23:29.15 | Grum_ | seriously, we 2shot hydros .. and we wipe on gruul .. WIPE .. ZOMG |
23:29.28 | Grum_ | we got respawns @ the end and .. well .. i cried |
23:29.39 | [dRaCo] | had that, too... sucks. |
23:29.41 | Arrowmaster | were wiping on lurker..... |
23:29.51 | Grum_ | we 2shotted lurker .. |
23:29.59 | SaladFork | is pastey lagging? =\ |
23:30.03 | Grum_ | seems Gruul is rather unforgiving |
23:30.11 | Grum_ | just paste the url yourself ! |
23:30.22 | SaladFork | I mean pastey.net |
23:30.24 | Grum_ | oh mm the page itself lagging |
23:30.25 | Grum_ | m |
23:30.47 | Grum_ | yes it is |
23:30.52 | SaladFork | gah |
23:31.01 | Grum_ | http://nopaste.snit.ch/ |
23:31.10 | Silowyi | Is there a way to grab the tooltips of active buffs? |
23:31.25 | Silowyi | or debuffs... |
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23:32.05 | Grum_ | Silowyi .. very .. known name for me, you didn't happen to play .. gawd what was that game called .. Horizons? :) |
23:32.39 | Grum_ | O M G :) |
23:32.42 | Grum_ | meh |
23:32.49 | Grum_ | we played together for way to long O.o |
23:33.02 | Grum_ | remember that nub that made that nice 3d ingame map? :/ |
23:33.10 | Silowyi | O.o |
23:33.15 | Silowyi | o.O |
23:33.17 | mjc | lol |
23:33.18 | Silowyi | Fid? |
23:33.23 | mjc | LOL |
23:33.27 | Grum_ | lol i dont even know my ingame name :'( |
23:33.39 | Grum_ | i tihnk Fid was the follow up because i kinda stopped playing |
23:33.47 | Silowyi | nah... |
23:33.58 | Grum_ | i think i was called Treeness .. and Microness .. and euuh lol .. i cant even remember O.o |
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23:34.05 | Silowyi | oh wait |
23:34.22 | Silowyi | you helped me get the zone files for the map |
23:34.26 | Grum_ | but we played a lot together! |
23:34.30 | Grum_ | yeah hehe |
23:34.36 | Grum_ | that was a lot of gathering ;) |
23:34.37 | Silowyi | you're not Fid |
23:34.40 | Grum_ | no i am not |
23:34.41 | Silowyi | ^_^ |
23:34.53 | Grum_ | hmm didnt you want to play GO with me? :/ |
23:34.56 | Silowyi | idunactuallyrecallyournameeither >.> |
23:35.16 | Grum_ | me neither |
23:35.20 | Grum_ | lol this is like 5 yrs ago orso :D |
23:35.44 | Silowyi | yeah, before they went bankrupt the first time even, iirc |
23:36.13 | Grum_ | yeah :) |
23:36.16 | Silowyi | do you know how to grab the tooltips of active buffs? :P |
23:36.21 | Grum_ | nope |
23:36.25 | Grum_ | just started on this mess myself |
23:36.29 | Silowyi | ah |
23:36.34 | SaladFork | This is driving me nuts |
23:36.35 | Grum_ | curious why you would want to do that anyhow ;D |
23:36.39 | SaladFork | The one time I need help, pastey's lagged out |
23:36.43 | Grum_ | what do you play? |
23:36.50 | Grum_ | SaladFork also nopaste.snit.ch ? :) |
23:36.57 | SaladFork | I don't like the way that formats |
23:36.58 | SaladFork | =P |
23:37.03 | Grum_ | who cares |
23:37.05 | Grum_ | geiv |
23:37.08 | SaladFork | kk |
23:37.44 | Grum_ | humz we spend a lot of time mining together Silowyi =D |
23:37.53 | SaladFork | http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861 |
23:38.00 | Grum_ | i think it was even mithril .. not sure about the ore-names :D |
23:38.20 | SaladFork | With HL: http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on |
23:39.05 | SaladFork | Should be nice, simple, and esay |
23:39.07 | SaladFork | =\ |
23:39.46 | SaladFork | Any idea Grum? |
23:40.27 | Grum_ | i'm reading it over and over seeing if i overlook something obvious O.o |
23:40.27 | SaladFork | I get |
23:40.27 | SaladFork | args.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function |
23:41.06 | SaladFork | It looks like a proper function to me |
23:41.15 | Grum_ | yeah indeed |
23:41.42 | Silowyi | Grum: I'm trying to determine the current chance to hit, something that's not available on the paper doll, because the paper doll doesn't take into accound buffs, debuffs, talents, and weapon skill. |
23:41.57 | Grum_ | oh .. i see what's wrong |
23:41.59 | Grum_ | i think |
23:42.01 | SaladFork | What's that Grum? |
23:42.12 | Grum_ | well yo assign a textstring to the getter and setter |
23:42.17 | SaladFork | yeah? |
23:42.22 | Grum_ | not sure how that evaluates |
23:42.34 | SaladFork | get |
23:42.34 | SaladFork | string - Method to call to get the current value. |
23:42.36 | Grum_ | might be that it looks at that string and goes like .. hey .. that is a string .. not a function! .. bork |
23:42.36 | SaladFork | set |
23:42.37 | SaladFork | string - Method to call to set the new value. |
23:42.39 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
23:42.46 | Grum_ | mhh |
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23:42.52 | Silowyi | SaladFork its a scope issue |
23:42.55 | SaladFork | Huh? |
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23:43.16 | Silowyi | show me the line where you register the options. |
23:43.35 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:43.35 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:43.35 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:44.04 | SaladFork | Sil - |
23:44.04 | SaladFork | WhatIf:RegisterChatCommand("/whatif", "/wi", options); |
23:44.13 | SaladFork | Unless I'm missing something |
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23:44.23 | Silowyi | Yeah that's what I thought, same thing that happened to me |
23:44.27 | SaladFork | ? |
23:44.29 | SaladFork | What am I doing wrong? |
23:44.45 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:44.46 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:44.46 | Grum_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:45.19 | SaladFork | Grum - huh? |
23:45.23 | Silowyi | basically the way you're doing it, it ends up looking for a global function getInt, rather than what you want which would be WhatIf:getInt |
23:45.33 | SaladFork | Should I set the string to WhatIf:getInt? |
23:46.07 | Grum_ | well that isn't really true Silowyi, you also set: handler = "WhatIf", |
23:46.14 | SaladFork | Yeah, I did |
23:46.19 | Grum_ | so basically that handler isn't used at all |
23:46.25 | Silowyi | I'm not sure if that would work *shrugs* I did self:RegisterChatCommand... in the initialize to get it to find the function. |
23:46.41 | Silowyi | ah, I didn't see the handler, good point |
23:46.44 | Arrowmaster | SaladFork: it should be WhatIf:RegisterChatCommand({"/whatif", "/wi"}, options) i think |
23:47.00 | SaladFork | You're right |
23:47.02 | Silowyi | oh |
23:47.03 | SaladFork | wtf, how did I get that wrong |
23:47.09 | Silowyi | lol I missed it too |
23:47.14 | SaladFork | No, that can't be it |
23:47.16 | SaladFork | I have another addon |
23:47.19 | SaladFork | Accomplish:RegisterChatCommand("/accomplish", "/acc", options) |
23:47.23 | SaladFork | That one works 100% fine for me |
23:47.48 | SaladFork | But let me try that anyway |
23:47.49 | Silowyi | no idea then |
23:48.32 | SaladFork | same erorr |
23:48.51 | SaladFork | That's not it |
23:49.03 | Silowyi | what about what I said? It really looks like a scope problem |
23:49.19 | SaladFork | trying |
23:49.27 | SaladFork | get = "WhatIf:getInt" |
23:49.49 | Grum_ | strang thing is, it looks for handler[get] |
23:50.03 | Grum_ | so with hander:get defined that should be resolving |
23:50.06 | SaladFork | Nope, same error |
23:50.13 | Grum_ | try something more silly |
23:50.45 | Grum_ | local function getInt ... end; WhatIf.getInt = getInt |
23:50.49 | Grum_ | and then normally 'getInt' |
23:51.07 | SaladFork | I'm not even going to try that Grum |
23:51.11 | SaladFork | I'm obviously doing something incorrectly |
23:51.27 | Silowyi | either that or the handler isn't being used |
23:51.32 | Grum_ | SaladFork: well i am not sure that lua will store it correctly and you kinda force it like that |
23:52.05 | Antiarc | Oh lord. |
23:52.12 | SaladFork | Anti! Assist me |
23:52.14 | Grum_ | Antiarc, help ;D |
23:52.17 | Grum_ | hahaha =D |
23:52.20 | Antiarc | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293029,00.html - "People on the internet are mean, so it should be regulated like a newspaper" |
23:52.29 | Antiarc | And what's up? |
23:52.34 | mjc | hmm |
23:52.36 | Antiarc | Also, you're all fat. |
23:52.39 | Antiarc | And ugly. |
23:52.42 | SaladFork | http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on |
23:52.51 | Antiarc | Oh noes, incoming regulation! |
23:52.53 | Grum_ | and they smell as well |
23:53.00 | Antiarc | Yes, can't forget the smellings. |
23:53.03 | SaladFork | Anti - http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10861?hl=on |
23:53.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: lols faux news. :P |
23:53.10 | SaladFork | args.set.args.intellect: "getInt" is not a proper function |
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23:53.31 | Grum_ | but Silowyi, what are you playing nowadays? |
23:53.39 | Antiarc | get = function() return getInt() end |
23:53.48 | Antiarc | Err |
23:53.56 | Antiarc | return WhatIf:getInt() end |
23:54.03 | Grum_ | haha even lamer |
23:54.11 | Grum_ | but why doesnt it resolve the string in the first place? |
23:54.16 | Grum_ | the code seems to allow it |
23:54.40 | SaladFork | Anti - done, reloading |
23:54.40 | Antiarc | I'd have to dig into the code to find out why |
23:54.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: the best part that woman has someone to read her hate mail for her, to protect her sensitive virgin eyes. :P |
23:54.40 | Grum_ | and actually checks if 'handler[function]' is of a type function |
23:54.44 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, I cracked up at that. |
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23:54.52 | Antiarc | Grum_: *shrug* |
23:54.58 | Antiarc | I always just do it with anonymous functions |
23:55.19 | SaladFork | what the hell |
23:55.25 | SaladFork | args.set.args.intellect: "setInt" is not a proper function |
23:55.29 | SaladFork | Why isn't this parsing like it should? |
23:55.33 | Grum_ | same problem |
23:55.33 | SaladFork | Your workaround works, but its ugly |
23:55.40 | SaladFork | No, it's complaining about setInt now |
23:55.41 | Grum_ | try mine SaladFork :D |
23:55.43 | SaladFork | Which means the workaround works |
23:55.53 | SaladFork | Why doesn't ace do this normalyl? =\ |
23:55.59 | SaladFork | wtf... |
23:56.01 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Did you notice the "Respond to the writer" link at the bottom? |
23:56.08 | Grum_ | local function setInt ... end; WhatIf.setInt = setInt; :) |
23:56.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: I did. :P |
23:56.34 | Grum_ | that should also work eventhough WhatIf:setInt should be some form of syntactic sugar for that |
23:56.41 | Antiarc | Actually, that should work. get = WhatIf.setInt |
23:56.43 | SaladFork | I applied Anti's workaround to the other 2 lines, let see if it works |
23:56.47 | SaladFork | Though it shouldn't need me to do that, =\ |
23:56.47 | Antiarc | Err, getInt, whatever |
23:56.57 | Grum_ | Antiarc: but that makes no sense |
23:57.03 | Grum_ | becuse you defined the handler :\ |
23:57.13 | Antiarc | I wasn't even aware of the handler option. |
23:57.15 | Antiarc | So *shrug* |
23:57.20 | Grum_ | hihi |
23:57.24 | NightHawkTheSane | handler? i hardly know her. |
23:57.35 | Grum_ | not so sane after all! |
23:58.27 | Grum_ | mmmm does wowlua run all of the code in it's buffer every time you add a new 'command' ? :) |
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23:59.16 | SaladFork | My code's worked fine for all my other addons, why's it requiring the full thing now? =\ |
23:59.35 | Silowyi | it would be very nice if there were a wow api emulator for lua, even if you had to manually set up events and api return values. |