IRC log for #wowace on 20070706

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00:00.23art3mishahah best bg trick
00:00.36SoleAGUF or PitBull?
00:00.39art3misif yer about to die use SW:D and it wo't register a kill for the other guys
00:05.03CIA-2203bayi * r42913 10beql/localization-ru.lua: beql: - updated russian translation with english placeholder strings
00:07.23CIA-2203rabbit * r42914 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: Alar: Cleanup.
00:08.15durcyn~seen Roartindon
00:08.19purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-108-168.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 9m 49s ago, saying: 'http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb121/Aroooga/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_070507_032426.jpg <-- real, or faked/staged?'.
00:11.40trhAntiarc|Work: in omen r42522 the button of the current selected skin isn't highlighted
00:15.01Trancerart3mis: lol
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00:15.47BankZDoesnt seem like the violation effeative healing mod is working
00:16.24BankZits only recording out of combat healing
00:16.30BankZrather than in combat
00:16.41MikkTardrofl
00:17.12Dottedlol
00:17.13BankZops!
00:17.24BankZoppsies!
00:20.35CIA-2203nekromant * r42915 10beql/localization-es.lua: beql: - Fixed spanish localization
00:21.00CIA-2203rabbit * r42916 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: Alar: Bugfix.
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00:28.31HjalteCan anyone tell me what a global HIDE variable is?
00:28.47MikkTardmost likely a bug
00:29.43Thelynabad coding?
00:30.17CIA-2203mikk * r42917 10oRA2/Optional/ (CoolDown.lua Resurrection.lua): oRA2: CoolDown / Resurrection monitors: Bugfix: Letting go of Alt while dragging would stick the frame to the cursor until /reload.
00:31.53CIA-2203bam * r42918 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (ItemPriceTooltip.lua ItemPriceTooltip.toc): (log message trimmed)
00:31.53CIA-22ItemPriceTooltip:
00:31.53CIA-22- Many refactorings
00:31.53CIA-22- Safety check to avoid recording price for items that has charges
00:31.54CIA-22- Options to customize the display of prices (incl. a Blizzard-style coin display)
00:31.54CIA-22- Option to turn off recording prices at merchants
00:31.56CIA-22- Option to purge the previously recorded prices
00:33.11Bam__heh... it didn't trim that log message at all :D
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00:39.14Bam__ckknight: pingeling :)
00:39.36CIA-2203grayhoof * r42919 10Proximo/Proximo.lua: Proximo: Fixed unregister error
00:42.18binderthe test
00:42.23binderomen vs al'ar
00:43.39Garoun|Meif I have guild members run threat1-0  but disable ktm data pulling in omen on my pc, will my threat numbers be ok or will they get tainted by people with KTM and Threat1.0 standalone?
00:47.28ThelynaGaroun|Loupana: I think the main problem will be with people who have outdated versions of Threat-1.0 running
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00:48.04Garoun|Loupanacould understand that
00:48.11Kalman|Antiarc|Work: I know why you missed with 310 hit.
00:48.24Antiarc?
00:48.36Kalman|You don't have Weapon Expertise.  The 308 is for weapex rogues w/ precision.
00:48.41AntiarcOooh. Right.
00:48.46Garoun|Loupanathe main thing I'm trying to do si get somewhat accurate numbers on my Omen when I don't have people that are ready to convert :)
00:49.03Kalman|324 hitrating for you, sir!
00:49.22Garoun|Loupanatrying to figure out the best way to have the SCT KTM messages, show up from omen so my g/f will drop KTM :P
00:49.32ArrowmasterGaroun|Loupana: you probably wont be able to get accurate numbers unless every raid member is running an uptodate version of threat
00:49.59Garoun|Loupanak, that's what I was afraid of :)
00:50.26Garoun|Loupanaguess I'll just have to work on getting people moved to Omen when I can
00:51.23AntiarcI'm human, so I need to just use swords or something
00:51.30Kalman|Well, that too.
00:51.58Wobworkhm, season finale for Heros
00:52.39ArrowmasterWobwork: season1?
00:52.49Wobworkyeah
00:53.00WobworkI like the intro to volume 2 =)
00:53.03Arrowmasterrerun or just finally getting it where you are?
00:53.08trhWobwork: the intro rocks =)
00:53.09WobworkJust getting it where we are =\
00:53.14x0ver;/
00:53.27x0verevening all
00:54.26WobworkI like Hiro =)
00:54.29WobworkHe's cool =)
00:55.02CIA-2203funkydude * r42920 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: bugfix
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00:58.44CIA-2203sayclub * r42921 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Updated koKR
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01:00.23HjalteHow much shield block value should i have before i start collecting lots of shield block rating?
01:00.58HjalteAs a warrior tanking :)
01:02.33CIA-2203strange * r42922 10FuriousRaid/ (. FuriousRaid.toc embeds.xml):
01:02.34CIA-22FuriousRaid:
01:02.34CIA-22- moved externals to embeds.xml
01:02.41starlonshoot for 25% block rating regardless of your block value
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01:03.02CIA-2203strange * r42923 10FuriousWaitlist/ (. FuriousWaitlist.toc embeds.xml):
01:03.02CIA-22FuriousWaitlist:
01:03.02CIA-22- moved externals to embeds.xml
01:04.27CIA-2203strange * r42924 10FuriousTask/ (. FuriousTask.lua FuriousTask.toc embeds.xml):
01:04.27CIA-22FuriousTask:
01:04.27CIA-22- moved externals to embeds.xml
01:04.27CIA-22- added MT/MA tracking when assigned through blizz ui
01:04.37starlonthat plus improved shield block should keep crushing blows at a minimum
01:05.09HjalteStarlon, i see. 100% chance to block when having shield block activated.
01:05.15starlonright
01:05.29HjalteHow much block value do you reckon i should aim at?
01:05.51starlonAs much as you can get without gimping other stats like stam and defense :)
01:06.48starlonblock value really helps with your threat generation, so it's always good to stack
01:07.47NosracSo, what's going to be different about wau2?
01:08.03Shirikit has a higher version number
01:08.09Nosraclol
01:08.15starlonIt's done in Java rather than .NET
01:08.36Shirikboth of which are equally yuck
01:08.38Shirikbut w/e
01:09.00Nosracwell, the reason I'm asking is I just tried it -- on a mac-- and it downloaded (updating i think it said) and then did nothing, and continues doing nothing ;-P
01:09.55Shirikdid you click the "do something" button?
01:10.03starlonWoW takes forever to install :\
01:10.08Shirikalternatively you can turn off the "suck" option
01:10.16NosracI didn't get any button ;-P, I just clicked the link on the site and it did that
01:10.31Shiriktry running it from the terminal with --nosuck option
01:10.55Shirikin reality, try running it from the terminal to see if you get any stderr output
01:11.16Nosrack
01:11.24Shirikwhat mac os?
01:11.31Nosrac10.4.10
01:12.30Bam__Nosrac: have you had WoW crashes too after upgrading to 10.4.10?
01:12.46NosracUnfortunately, I'm a (big)noob with terminal, what will I need to type to get it to run like that? the path to the file is ~/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/WowAceUpdater2.jnlp
01:13.01Shirikjnlp?
01:13.14ShirikI've never seen that extension actually... but try, from ~
01:13.24Shiriker, why is it there anyway?
01:13.40NosracWell, i clicked the link at http://www.wowace.com/wau2/, it downloaded that
01:13.42Bam__it's a Java WebStart application
01:13.46Shirikoh is it
01:13.50Nosrac;-)
01:14.34ShirikI... guess? You could try from ~/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/, java -jar ./WowAceUpdater2.jnlp
01:14.35Shirikbut it's not a jar
01:14.39Shirikso I doubt that will work
01:14.57NosracHmmm
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01:15.28Shirikoh
01:15.33Bam__the jnlp file should have been downloaded to your normal download folder
01:15.33Shirikjavaws ./WowAceUpdater2.jnlp
01:16.38NosracThe javaws command did the same as opening it, it sits there for about 3 seconds ( presumably checking for updates? )
01:16.47Shirikbut nothing prints to terminal
01:17.03Nosracoh, sorry
01:17.04NosracI'll get that quick
01:17.19Shirikso did it?
01:17.31Nosrac<PROTECTED>
01:17.31Nosrac<PROTECTED>
01:17.35NosracError loading /Users/GC/Library/Application Enhancers/Menu Master.ape/Contents/MacOS/Menu Master:  error code 4, error number 0 (Symbol not found: _DebugPrintMenu
01:17.36Nosrac<PROTECTED>
01:17.36Nosrac<PROTECTED>
01:17.41Nosracall of those ><
01:18.08Bam__hmm.. anyone know what Java version it is written in?
01:18.17Shirikwell there's your problem
01:18.21Bam__Mac is still on 1.5
01:18.24Shirikit's missing a class, or at least a function in a class
01:18.36Shirikwhy would you code past 1.5? 1.6 isn't even release yet is it?
01:18.44rubikyes it is
01:18.45ShirikI don't know I rarely go past 1.4 but hey
01:18.53Bam__1.6 has been released for at least half a year
01:19.03rubikbut not sure whether 1.6 is required or not, sorry
01:19.13Nosracah, np
01:19.17ShirikI hate java anyway so.... there's your answer. It's missing a class or function, it's very likely that you're not running the required VM
01:19.38Nosrack, Thanks a lot guys ;-)
01:19.48Shirikon that note, I seriously need to go to sleep so yeah
01:19.49Bam__there is a beat of 1.6 though.. should work well
01:20.26NosracMy Java Web Start.app file says it's Version 11.5.0 :-/?
01:20.50Bam__try java -v
01:21.05Bam__java -version
01:21.19Nosrac'Could not create the Java virtual machine' o.O?
01:21.33Bam__yea sorry.. it's java -version
01:21.39Nosracah k
01:21.39Nosraclol
01:21.40Shiriklol.
01:21.50NosracJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-164)
01:21.50NosracJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_07-87, mixed mode, sharing)
01:22.15Bam__yup... not sure why I asked really.. all Mac's will have that version :P
01:22.21Nosraclol
01:24.01NosracThanks for the help.  Hopefully 10.5 has 1.6 ;-)
01:24.09AnduinLotharunless you've finked or built it yourself
01:24.17NosracHmmm
01:24.22NosracI could try Fink ;-P
01:24.30Bam__no I don't think it will :(
01:24.31AnduinLothardont
01:24.33Nosraclol k
01:24.39AnduinLotharyou can compile it yourself
01:24.42AnduinLotharactually
01:24.44AnduinLotharbetter yet
01:24.51NosracYou got me excited ;-(, I have finkcommander installed already xD
01:24.53Bam__not with proper GUI support
01:25.01AnduinLotharget a free ADC account and get the binary
01:25.04KarlThePaganactually Bam__ Nosrac you can get 1.5.0_08 on the support site and 1.6 if you register a developer account
01:25.15NosracReally....
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01:25.18NosracI'll try that =D
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01:25.31Bam__yea we use 1.6 at work...
01:25.35AnduinLotharhowever, even with the new java KarlThePagan still hasn't gotten WAU working on macs
01:25.38sbumh
01:25.41NosracAhh
01:25.48sbuwhats ~best beastmaster raiding pet? :o
01:25.55AnduinLotharit still errors and wont launch
01:25.55KarlThePaganthat's because it's a java 5 problem
01:26.03KarlThePaganand java 1.6 for mac is buggy
01:26.06NosracAhh
01:26.15AnduinLotharor something liek that
01:26.18NosracAre you thinking it'll be fixed with Leopard?
01:26.19KarlThePaganand i'm rewriting the java version in swing ... SWT/RCP is a pain in the assssss
01:26.26Nosrachah
01:26.27AnduinLotharis there a new binary?
01:26.32KarlThePaganit will be fixed when i drop RCP like a bad habbit
01:26.37Nosraclol
01:26.39Bam__I doubt it... Leopard and Java are not really related
01:26.47AnduinLotharobtw. what's the latest ace mail addon called?
01:26.48KarlThePaganthey sortof are...
01:27.00KarlThePaganBulkMail2 and BulkMail2Inbox AL
01:27.06Bam__only in terms of developer resources
01:27.17AnduinLotharhmm that doesn't sound liek what i was thinkign of
01:27.19Birdemaniif the bigwigs minimap icon is missing, how do you get it back?
01:27.27Nosracor Postal
01:27.32Bam__and it does not seem Apple has Java as a high priority anymore
01:27.37HjalteAnduinLothar, I prefer Postman
01:27.40AnduinLotharPostal maybe
01:27.41Nosrac;-(
01:27.48KarlThePaganPostal is dead
01:27.52KarlThePaganunless you mean Postal2
01:27.58NosracI must lol
01:28.11AnduinLotharPostal was updated on tuesday
01:28.15KarlThePaganamazing
01:28.17AnduinLotharaccording to feed://files.wowace.com/latest.xml
01:28.19KarlThePaganmust be then
01:29.13KarlThePagananyways I'm working out the WAU2 issues... I'm pretty much fed up with RCP right now so I'm redoing it win swing
01:29.17AnduinLotharwowace just crashed Safari3 beta..
01:29.35Bam__on Mac or Windows?
01:29.38AnduinLotharmac
01:29.50AnduinLothardoing a search
01:30.01NosracDo you have 3.02?
01:30.04AnduinLotharworked this time..
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01:30.06Nosracit might be fixed.  not sure
01:30.11AnduinLotharya
01:30.16AnduinLotharno i have 3.02
01:30.20NosracHmm.  Keep in mind, it's still a beta ;-P
01:30.21Bam__my netbank doesn't work with Safari beta3 :(
01:30.27Nosracawe =(
01:30.40Bam__so I cannot see my debt :D
01:30.45Nosraclol
01:30.50Nosracwell, that's one perk I suppose
01:31.01AnduinLothari've actually crashed it a half dozen times
01:31.09Bam__yup.. but can't avoid the letters from the bank though :D
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01:31.13Nosraclol
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01:31.45JaxonHas anyone else had problems with Master Loot?  We are just PUGging Kara and when I tried to pass out Attumen drops, "Group 1" and "Group 2" items in the menu were grayed out.
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01:32.57AnduinLotharlooks like Postman stole all the MailTo functions. which is what i currently use
01:33.22rubiktoo many mail addons.. i still use Postal
01:33.40AnduinLotharI <3 the dropdown and right-click loot/delete in MailTo
01:33.44rubikanything new/cool in the other ones worth switching for?
01:33.59ckknighthey all
01:34.00ckknightback
01:34.08Nosrac14Hey
01:34.14AnduinLotharhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Postman
01:34.15ArrowmasterJaxon: try mousing over the arrow on the right
01:34.21ckknightNosrac: don't use colors
01:34.32ckknightBam__: pongelong
01:34.34AnduinLotharafai can tell it's jsut MailTo aced...
01:34.37Bam__ckknight: welcome back there is a bug with multiToggle in AceConsole :)
01:34.47Nosrac14crap i am >< sorry one sec
01:35.12Bam__ckknight: if your get function returns false instead of nil, it will display the item as being selected
01:35.14Nosrac01was messing with some preferences ><
01:35.33ckknight:-(
01:35.36Bam__ckknight: Deucecommander and Niagara seem to get it right
01:35.36JaxonArrowmaster: thanks, that makes absolutely NO SENSE, but it worked, now we can DE everything
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01:35.46ckknight...lame
01:36.34AnduinLotharproll checks == nil, eh?
01:36.39AnduinLotharprolly*
01:37.03Bam__I think it just uses pairs to loop over the items in a table
01:37.06AnduinLotharinstead of (not func())
01:37.32AnduinLotharpairs still shows false, just not nils
01:37.51ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: ping
01:37.57Bam__yea but then it simply prints all that it finds regardless of the value
01:38.20JaxonDoesn't XLoot have something to random out greens to people?
01:38.36Nosrac01not to my knowledge, anyone disagree?
01:38.44XuerianJaxon: It does
01:38.44CIA-2203vincent * r42925 10WeaponRebuff/ (4 files):
01:38.44CIA-22WeaponRebuff:
01:38.44CIA-22<PROTECTED>
01:38.57Nosrac01go with him ;-P
01:39.09rubikNosrac: can't see your writing
01:39.23Nosrac01>< brb
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01:39.36CIA-2203ckknight * r42926 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - bugfix with AceConsole's handling of multiToggle
01:39.40XuerianJaxon: XLoot Master has a random function, thanks to Mikk. It's a slightly more balanced random, as in it avoids double-distributions and the like
01:39.49NosracCan you see it now?
01:39.56rubikthat line just there, yeah
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01:40.00Nosrack
01:40.16Bam__ckknight: ohh fast working :P
01:40.25JaxonHmm, I'm not seeing it, but the tooltip gives me a 39xxx revision, and MacAce updater says 42xxx so I have to go yell at something to fix it.  Just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy and didn't see it in some revision notes
01:41.50NosracWeird, MAU for Xloot is working for me
01:42.10Xuerianmau? o.0
01:42.23NosracI decided to be short ;-P  Mac Ace Updater
01:42.25NosracLaziness ftl
01:42.44XuerianAhh, just not used to connecting mac <---> games, still...
01:42.45Xuerian>_>
01:42.55Bam__ckknight: erm.. did you accidentally include some unintended event debugging in that commit? :)
01:43.04Nosrac01lol
01:43.11ckknightBam__: it's possible
01:45.17CIA-2203norova * r42927 10GrindStatus/modules/ (OutlandNeutral.lua OutlandShattrath.lua): GrindStatus: fix zhTW translation
01:46.04CIA-2203ckknight * r42928 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - remove unintended event debugging
01:46.16Chompershey ckknight
01:46.22ckknighthey Chompers
01:49.09ckknightah, wtf
01:49.21Chompers?
01:49.23ckknightwhy is the UK trying to prevent BDSM porn?
01:49.34ckknightbah
01:49.43durcynsome of those fucking puritans must've gone back
01:50.02Arrowmasterlol
01:50.17Nosrac01lol
01:50.43AntiarcZealotOnAStick: Pong
01:50.46durcynNosrac: turn off your colors.
01:50.48syerenckknight, get some options on Parrot if you're going to devote your time to that :p
01:51.00ckknightsyeren: I am worn out
01:51.03durcynNosrac: forcing it to black doesn't help either, just turn it off.
01:51.07ckknightI had a 10 hour day yesterday
01:51.15Nosrac01Hmmm, I'll see if i can figure it out quick
01:51.23ckknightand I just had to lug an entire vanload to the dump
01:51.56durcynNosrac: i'm using white text on a black background, everything you say is invisible until i highlight it.  hope you're not saying anything important!
01:51.59syerenSome complaints on the Official Pitbull thread about you know what too ckknight :P
01:52.00CIA-2203cryect * r42929 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes some bugs (at a slight memory cost but still its better than before the bug was introduced)
01:52.04Nosrac01what color of text was it? whitish or like dark gray
01:52.15Nosrac01Oh, don't be silly.  I don't say important things
01:52.25Nosrac01Ok, I understand ya now ;-P
01:53.10Wobworkmy new monitor I just bought... http://www.eyo.com.au/prod_H-FP222WBlk_proddesc_LCD_22_BENQ_FP222W_Widescreen_5MS_700_1_WSXGA_9J.03V72.MBW_Black_colour.html
01:53.32ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: two things.  1) got a report (unconfirmed personally) that latest omen, they were only seeing themselves and nobody else.
01:54.14ZealotOnAStick2) Can you do something to bump the toc each revision, so omen reports itself in-game somewhat realistically?  It's been showing as 42522 still, yet threat seems to update accurately.
01:54.42CIA-2203trh * r42930 10VanasKoS/modules/ChatNotifier.lua: VanasKoS: option to add a "lookup in vanaskos" entry in the context menu when you rightclick the name
01:54.46durcynZealotOnAStick: it's set by an svn extprop automatically
01:55.27ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: what's the script command in-game to clear and reset Omen's SVs?
01:55.46ArrowmasterOmen:ResetDB()?
01:56.15CIA-2203trh * r42931 10VanasKoS/VanasKoS.lua: VanasKoS: this bugfix shall not be forgotten
01:57.33durcynoh, that's interesting.  the Revision string in Omen.toc was updated, but Omen.lua wasn't
01:57.54kergothGagorian, dunno if you noticed, but bar paging in bongos2 doesnt appear to update the # on the button.. or rather, it did update when i held down shift to page, but didnt update back to what it was before when i released and it paged back
01:58.03kergothGagorian, the drdamage # on the button of course
02:02.17ZealotOnAStickWobwork: lemme know how you like it.  I've been a bit wary of the BenQ brand because it's unfamiliar to me.
02:02.46durcynZealotOnAStick: the korean knockoff manufacturer formerly known as Acer
02:04.53ThorgardOh wang.
02:04.54ThorgardRecount-$Revision: 42911 $\Tracker.lua:487: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'amount' (a nil value)
02:05.32Gagoriankergoth: You hold shift modifier to switch bars?
02:06.03Gagorian#api UnitDebuff
02:06.04ThraeBotGagorian: name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft  =  UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]);
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02:09.21kergothGagorian, yea
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02:12.45Nosrachttp://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/322239_richest04.html?source=mypi lol!
02:12.58NosracDang it.  That should say Bill gates is no longer the world's richest person
02:13.59trhdurcyn: in that case omen.toc was updated
02:14.06trhdurcyn: prolly the swstats optdep
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02:15.57SoleWobin: ping pong
02:16.18Gagoriankergoth: Have you enabled /drdmg actionbar updateshift ?
02:18.10CIA-2203bayi * r42932 10beql/tracker.lua: beql: - fixed a possible NIL error (beql.db.char.saved.CurrentHoveredQuest)
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02:34.02trhNosrac: hell, i could live with being the 10th richest person in the world
02:34.05trhNosrac: no problem :)
02:34.11Nosraclol
02:34.44NosracI suppose 10th would be fine
02:34.50NosracBut, I think you're settling!
02:35.04trhi could even live with the like 300th place ;)
02:35.08Nosraclol
02:35.19trhas long as its > 1 million ;)
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02:35.26Nosraclol
02:36.23art3misheh yeah the top 9 have so much money the 10th guy is only 450k ;)
02:36.33NosracPoor guy
02:36.44art3mis300th is like 17.34
02:36.48Nosraclol
02:37.20NosracAlright, Well, I'm out guys
02:37.29NosracCya later
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02:48.35trhand i always thought Kirkburn likes kittens and not children
02:49.01CIA-2203gagorian * r42933 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
02:49.01CIA-22DrDamage:
02:49.01CIA-22- Added poison checks for Envenom and Mutilate
02:49.01CIA-22- Added melee hit calculation
02:50.43Cryect<Thorgard> Recount-$Revision: 42911
02:50.49Cryecttry 42929
02:50.52Kirkburn~emulate Kirkburn
02:50.54purlYes, Microsoft! Harder!
02:50.58Kirkburn>_>
02:51.04Kirkburn~emulate Kirkburn
02:51.05purlI hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one.
02:51.10Cryectheh
02:51.10Kirkburn^_^
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02:51.33Kirkburnyummy!
02:51.38Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/OrangeBoxPC.jpg
02:51.39KirkburnNo ... wait ....
02:51.40Fisker-do want
02:51.43Kirkburn>_<
02:52.08Chompershow does that emulate function work?
02:52.13KirkburnI ain't gonna get no stinking Orange Box
02:52.22KirkburnI'm gonna get a damn dirty Steam package
02:52.26Fisker-:( then
02:52.26Chompersdoes it take random snippets of what people say?
02:52.32Cryectyou want the ugliest box made?
02:52.43KirkburnThe design of the Orange Box previously? :)
02:52.50Fisker-the portal part itself makes it the best
02:53.01KirkburnCryect, me wants
02:53.02Fisker-but it was the games i was talking about QQ
02:53.11Fisker-i'm not gonna get the boxes anyways
02:53.35KirkburnProbably cheaper on Steam
02:53.56Kirkburn(though that totally failed for HL2:EP1, since it was cheaper from stored pretty quickly)
02:53.59Kirkburn*stored
02:54.02Kirkburn*stores!
02:54.20Fisker-heh yeah
02:54.29Fisker-you could get that for like 10$ with rebates
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02:56.50Arrowmasterwhens hl2:ep2 coming out?
02:56.55Fisker-october
03:02.23trhi heard together with gnu/hurd and duke nukem forever in a bundle :P
03:02.54NightHawkTheSanetrh: hahaha
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03:06.21KarlThePagantrh, you forgot the fallout sequel
03:06.30trhKarlThePagan: oh, ok =)
03:06.45trhKarlThePagan: thought that was a month after duke nukem forever :P
03:06.54KarlThePaganhehe
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03:08.49Fisker-Not even funny
03:09.17NightHawkTheSanei beg to differ.
03:09.28Fisker-i beg to differ
03:11.53Arrowmasterfallout3, fall 2008
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03:24.23stavmarso 2x in a row during mags i get DCd, internet connection is fine, I use Bwigs, Pitbull and MainAssist and Omen, Violation, could these be causing me to disconnect at all?
03:26.26Funkeh`thats highly doubtful
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03:27.36GalkaWaterfall error:  http://ace.pastey.net/70382
03:28.52stavmarso where should I look first Funkeh` ?
03:29.11Funkeh`maybe the eu forum where it states theres been a problem with telia
03:29.12Solehey you gusy
03:29.30Solewhats the name of the addon with reskins BT3 to have that funky texture round the buttons and the arrow pointing up
03:29.43Solehttp://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5346/uiuq8.jpg   also whats the panel at the bottom? eePanels?
03:32.03SoleI expect you guys to help me when I asked you rudely
03:32.25art3miscycircle you lazy bastard!
03:32.28art3mis;)
03:32.34SoleTHATS THE ON!
03:32.42art3misand yes thats eepanels
03:32.46Soles/ON/ONE/
03:32.59SoleI knew it all along, I just temporarily forgot the name :P
03:33.12art3misit must suck being partially retarded ;P
03:33.19Soleno u
03:33.25art3misheh
03:33.41SoleIm guessing thats PitBull
03:33.59art3misstavmar: i'd blame pitbull for yer discons
03:34.28GagorianWell, disconnects, not really -_-
03:34.55Fisker-postfix is only for sending mail or what?
03:35.36stavmarart3mis: man that is not good, i have converted many of my guildies to it. i thought the issue was resolved after this latest patch?
03:35.38SolecyCircled_Onyx is the one with the arrow, correct?
03:35.49art3mispitbull is evil in large raids
03:36.01art3mislarge being more than 5 ;)
03:36.29art3misthe arrow?
03:36.49art3misbut nah im kidding it doesnt DC ya
03:36.54art3misit lags ya REALLY bad
03:36.57art3misbut not DC
03:36.57Soleyoure evil
03:39.50CIA-2203kemayo * r42934 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/Comments.lua:
03:39.50CIA-22FuBar_QuestsFu:
03:39.50CIA-22- Comments: Fix a few stray "self"s.
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03:40.42iZenanyone running an unbuntu machine with wow installed through wine?
03:41.00Solewhy the hell does PitBull have so many damn modules now?
03:41.53JaxoniZen: I used to run Ubuntu with WoW through Cedega.
03:42.10iZenargh, cedega eats the pocket... i wouldnt want to pay for both
03:42.27iZenany other solutions?
03:42.33Jaxon"eats the pocket"  I'm not familiar with this.
03:42.40iZencosts money doesnt?
03:42.48iZenthought you had to pay for an account
03:42.52JaxonYou do
03:43.05iZeneats the pocket (money going bye bye)
03:43.07KirkburnYay for regional idioms
03:43.33JaxonOh, well, it was worth it, when I used it.  Comparing it to CrossOver Office and Wine, my performance was much, much better.
03:43.55KirkburnQuick question - anyone know if DrDamage is now doing other (non caster) classes? From watching the changelogs it seems to be going that way ...
03:43.55NightHawkTheSaneYOU'RE a regional idiom!
03:44.00Kirkburnno u
03:44.04JaxonYour face
03:44.05iZeni bet... i dont see why a third party group has not released anything like it.
03:44.10NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: it's heading in that direction yes.
03:44.17JaxonKirkburn: there is rogue data in there now, I think
03:44.21NightHawkTheSanefrom waht I've seen, it's a far cry from being usable, but progress is being made
03:44.26KirkburnCool, might have to reenable it for my hunter sometime
03:44.46iZenany of you on shadowsong?
03:45.00NightHawkTheSaneno, shadowsongers are losers. :P
03:45.07KirkburnThe lack of mention means US server
03:45.45Kirkburn(we always have to specify EU, cause, like, we're third world, and no-one cares about us)
03:46.02iZenwhat would you say about crossover office... better then wine
03:46.06iZen?
03:46.18NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: no, we just don't care about you. :)
03:46.30JaxoniZen: Cedega was my benchmark, so it was "Nope, not as good performance as Cedega, gone."
03:46.49iZenim saying comparing it to wine
03:47.43Kirkburn|sleepHaha! I feigned cower!
03:48.01NightHawkTheSane~lart Kirkburn|sleep
03:48.01purlwhacks Kirkburn|sleep with a giant beaver's tail
03:48.08Kirkburn|sleepNice beaver.
03:48.14NightHawkTheSanebeaver? I hardly know her!
03:48.33Kirkburn|sleepNo, the correct response was "Thanks. I just had it stuffed."
03:48.50NightHawkTheSanei'll stuff YOUR bever.
03:48.54NightHawkTheSanes/ev/eav/
03:49.19WobworkSole: What's up?
03:49.44SoleWobwork: was gonna say Gonffbar needs SurfaceLib in the OptDeps
03:49.56NightHawkTheSaneisnt surfacelib deprecated at this point?
03:50.03SoleWobwork: WAU2 doesnt download SurfaceLib otherwise and Gonffbar goes sadfase
03:50.17Soleyeah it is but Gonffbar still uses it and I dont have my SVN client installed atm so I cant edit it
03:50.31NightHawkTheSaneso desuka.
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03:50.47Solewhy are you speaking in japanese?
03:50.52NightHawkTheSanebecause i felt like it?
03:50.59Solefair enough
03:51.14NightHawkTheSanethat also represents about 40% of my japanese knowledge, so. :)
03:51.32WobworkI never actually was the one who put surfacelib into gonffbar
03:51.40Wobworkso you might want to poke.. I think vhaarr
03:51.49Wobworkcan't recall straight off who added it in
03:52.33NightHawkTheSanesvn blame ftw? course i think at a certain revision everything comes up kergoth >.>
03:52.45Kirkburn|sleepWobwork .... blame Canada
03:52.53Sole^ me too
03:52.59Kirkburn|sleepBlame Sole too
03:53.00art3misNightHawkTheSane: so you know 3 other words? domo arigato and..?
03:53.17Kirkburn|sleepCheese.
03:53.20SoleKirkburn|sleep: I blame you more than canada
03:53.36Jaxonart3mis: ko-ni-chi-wa
03:53.41art3misoh yeah
03:54.04JaxonYou say arigato like WE say arigato
03:54.09NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: uh, the obvious words of course, if i really thought about it I could come up with a few others.  *shrug*
03:54.21art3mislies!
03:54.24art3misand sladner!
03:54.26Kirkburn|sleepJaxon, I think it's somewhat lost in translation ...
03:54.27art3misslander too
03:54.35NightHawkTheSanehmm
03:54.40Kirkburn|sleep*cough* Libel *cough*
03:54.41art3misyou say arigato we say arugula
03:54.43NightHawkTheSaneI think since this is a text medium, it'd be libel
03:54.48art3misoh speaking of libel
03:54.52Kirkburn|sleeper
03:54.59Kirkburn|sleepspeaking of slander ;)
03:55.04art3misdid you see that company sueing google for linking places that defame thier company in searches?
03:55.32art3mistahts the most awesome lawsuit evah
03:55.34Kirkburn|sleepI'll sue you for threatening me, NightHawk
03:55.43art3mis"we didnt know about them util YOU brought it up now it's your fault!"
03:55.58Kirkburn|sleepThey will win. In their battle against life, anyway.
03:56.08art3misone can only hope
03:56.22Wobworkwell
03:56.23art3miswtf happened to adult swim
03:56.27art3misit used to be awesome
03:56.27Wobworkthey will lose in their battle against life
03:56.29Wobworkwe all do =P
03:56.32art3misnow its a big pile of crap
03:56.35Kirkburn|sleepI won't
03:56.43Wobworkwho wants to live forever?
03:56.47Kirkburn|sleepI do.
03:56.48art3miskirkburn ahs been watching the highlander documentaries
03:57.04Kirkburn|sleepWhat's Highlander?
03:57.09NightHawkTheSane"Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
03:57.11Wobworkpfeh
03:57.51art3misdid you know that Death is the #1 killer in our country today?
03:58.27Kirkburn|sleepQuick, let's blame the immigrants!
03:58.34art3missome warning signs of death are: rigor mortis, a rotting smell, feeling drowsy.
03:58.58art3misif you think you're suffering from death : do not attempt to drive, do not oeprate heavy machinery and do not breath
03:59.00art3misbreathe
03:59.08NightHawkTheSane"You're older than you ever were and now you're even older, and now you're even older, and now you're older still."
03:59.31art3misKirkburn|sleep: which ones, the mexicans and cubans or the irish and english and french ;P
03:59.35WobworkDeath is natures way of telling you to slow down.
03:59.52art3misi vote irish
04:00.10art3misthose potatoe farming drunken lephrechauns
04:00.14NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: you forgot the jews, germans, italians, chinese, japanese, korean, dutch, um...
04:00.41art3misoh and vikings!
04:00.49NightHawkTheSanepfeh, fuck the vikings.
04:00.57NightHawkTheSanewhat has odin done for me lately!
04:01.00art3misand the spanish and those blacks
04:01.13art3misodin has kept loki from hiding your keys
04:01.21art3misknee and bow mortal!
04:01.29NightHawkTheSanefeh! loki's a tosser.
04:01.46NightHawkTheSanebesides, him and odin are clearly plotting together.
04:01.48art3misthats a good thing though
04:01.48Kirkburn|sleepThose bloody Jutes and Danes soo
04:02.03art3misyeah the danes can be blamed for everything
04:02.06art3misthey're all nuts
04:02.09Kirkburn|sleepComing over here, pillaging our towns, raping our womenfolk!
04:02.31art3misive seen your womenfo0lk kirk, face it danes were a great benefit to your town ;P
04:02.42Kirkburn|sleepGreat Danes indeed.
04:02.57NightHawkTheSanezing.
04:03.09Kirkburn|sleepAll those big dogs really did help our womenfolk, it's true.
04:03.28art3misalthough it did make for some ugly decendants
04:03.29NightHawkTheSanecertainly improved the gene pool
04:03.41Kirkburn|sleep>_>
04:03.46Kirkburn|sleep<_>
04:04.07art3misina  completely unrelated note appearantly theres a REALLY hot british chick at this office i do computer work for
04:04.11Kirkburn|sleep*_O
04:04.20Fisker-Slow_queries 23  The number of queries that have taken more than long_query_time seconds. MySQL - Documentation  
04:04.21Fisker-QQ
04:04.31Fisker-wonder what those were :P
04:04.39Kirkburn|sleepart3mis, lucky
04:04.44art3mistoday she had on the black skirt white top(top button undone) sheer stockings black heels glasses and a hair in a bu
04:04.47art3misbun
04:04.53NightHawkTheSanedamn. >.>
04:04.58art3miswith the little stremer hair falling down
04:05.01art3misstreamer
04:05.15binderany clue if antiarc want's combat logs from void reaver?
04:05.19art3misand the accent
04:05.22art3mismmmmmmm
04:05.27Kirkburn|sleepOoookay, sounds like you watched a bit tooo closely
04:05.34Fisker-Select_full_join 67 k The number of joins that do not use indexes. If this value is not 0, you should carefully check the indexes of your tables.  
04:05.35Fisker-lol
04:05.41Fisker-well 67.000 almost 0
04:05.51NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn|sleep: i think it's obvious he's in full creepy stalker mode. :P
04:06.03Kirkburn|sleepAntiarc, do you want combat logs from Void Reaver?
04:06.15binderwho thought he was gone
04:06.18AntiarcIf you want, sure, but I've done him
04:06.21AntiarcDoing Doomwalker
04:06.26binderhow about al'ar?
04:06.28binderI got those too
04:06.29art3misKirkburn|sleep: you can't stalk properly without being detail oriented ;P
04:06.41Kirkburn|sleepNightHawkTheSane, I daren't ask what colour her undies were
04:06.50Kirkburn|sleepFisker-, um, thanks
04:06.59Kirkburn|sleepPlease, come again
04:07.31Fisker-i just did
04:07.33Fisker-oh snap
04:07.45Fisker-that was a bit disgusting though
04:07.54NightHawkTheSaneyeah, you kind of ar
04:07.55NightHawkTheSanee
04:08.44Fisker-indeed
04:09.29Kirkburn|sleepG'night you freakish freakheads :)
04:09.46NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn|sleep: takes one. ;)
04:10.04RogueShadowIs there a library with enchanting/general crafting mats in it.  Or addon that displays such.
04:10.17Kirkburn|sleepNightHawkTheSane, certainly does :P
04:10.51NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: periodic table has sets for that, though its not stunningly fine grain
04:11.12NightHawkTheSane(ie, you can get all mats used in a tradeskill, but not all mats used in a specific recipe)
04:11.16Soleis Parrot meant to not have any configuration?
04:11.17RogueShadowah
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04:24.46art3mishttp://www.zumanityhoops.com/game.cfm <-- greatest game EVER
04:25.05NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's the greatest game ever
04:25.14Fisker-OH SNAP
04:26.23Fisker-btw
04:27.20Fisker-wtf is the point of that
04:28.44ckknightdoing your mom?
04:28.57Fisker-awesome
04:29.30Fisker-but seriously just place your mouse on the ball?
04:29.32Fisker-game sucks
04:30.03Fisker-and it's probably a ZOMG SHOCK-flash anyways
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04:32.31NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/games/bloxorz
04:33.16NightHawkTheSanethat game's a fucking bitch.
04:33.20NightHawkTheSanemuch like Fisker-'s mom.
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04:38.39XuerianThis is great...
04:38.43ckknightoh yea
04:38.44Fisker-then my mom isn't much of a bitch
04:38.45ckknightfun game
04:38.47Fisker-since that fame is fucking easy
04:38.49ckknightit is like Fisker-'s mom
04:38.52Fisker-like my mom
04:38.55XuerianI get a common.mpq corruption crash in bf... >_>
04:39.04Fisker-you're playing now? :O
04:39.13XuerianApparently so
04:39.17Fisker-nice
04:39.21XuerianOr was, anyway.
04:41.07Funkeh`your mums all put together are nothing compared to having ckknight's mom for 1 night
04:41.19ckknightsuppose not
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04:50.10Funkeh`http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/woman_arrested_for_wow_teen_tryst/
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04:51.52Fisker-ugh
04:51.54Fisker-the register
04:52.14Antiarcyay, doomwalker ganked
04:52.16AntiarcAnd he needs a module
04:52.33Funkeh`Fisker-: shut up and read it
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04:54.15CIA-22FuBar_WorldPVPFu: initial commit
04:54.15CIA-22- A button for FuBar to quickly show/hide PVP Objectives frame
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04:56.19art3mis$2.35m bond. geez
04:56.26art3misthe next line is classic though
04:56.27Fisker-geez?
04:56.39art3mis(WoW equipment could not be seized by authorities, as it is soulbound.)
04:57.16art3misBesides, any WoW player could tell you in a 18/31 spread, the experience would be lousy anyway. ®
04:57.53Fisker-is there a number or something for infinity i C#_
04:57.56Fisker-?
05:00.24NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: not if you tap leveled. >.>
05:00.29art3misheh
05:00.41NightHawkTheSanealthough I'm not really sure i -want- to know how that works in this situation.
05:00.42art3mistoday was a great day at work
05:00.46Fisker-already read it Funkeh`
05:00.51Fisker-i just hate the register
05:00.53Fisker-and the inquirer
05:01.01art3misi got yelled at for trying to teach the retarded office staff how to answer questions regarding internet connection issues
05:01.26art3misand then got to tell the office manager that if one of her staff ever threatened to cause my physical harm again it wouldnt be a good day to be a manager
05:01.33NightHawkTheSaneI like how [air fare] was green.
05:01.35art3mismy == me
05:02.30art3misthen she says "well im gotta back my staff" to which i replied thats fine and i need to bill my time properly for being here all day and invoiced her 1k for 3 days of hanging around all day correcting network problems because thier isp dropped on monday
05:03.16art3misi simply LOVE how office managers seem to believe that they cant tell thier clients "its on backup and we have no ETA on when it will be fixed but it is being worked on"
05:03.57art3misthere also this one company that has a service conract with this guy the office manager hates, and everytime i fix something in thier office they call him and he breaks it again
05:04.30art3misso i told them on tuesday that as long as they had the contract with him *I* would not be solving thier problems anymore, mostly because i would be royally pissed if someone touched M network
05:04.32art3misMY
05:05.24art3misoffice manager says "thats not up to you to decide" i say yeah actually it is, im contracted to make sure the internet is up, and to thier server that HE set up it is, past that it's not MY obligation to do his work for him and not get paid for it
05:06.10art3misgod i love my job
05:06.40art3mismaybe ill go take a graveshift at 7-11
05:06.47art3misand swill coffee all night
05:07.00NightHawkTheSanewhat's standard paper size? 8.5"x11" yeah?
05:07.10art3misyeah
05:07.28art3misthats letter
05:07.33art3mislegal is 8.5x14
05:07.54KemayoStandard in the US, anyway.  In the civilized world we use A4.
05:08.05art3miswhats a4? 8x12?
05:08.14art3misi can never remember that one
05:08.25Kemayo8.27 x 11.69 inches.
05:08.34NightHawkTheSaneyeah, cause that's fucking civilized.
05:08.54KemayoWell, it's easier when you remember 21x30 cm. :P
05:09.02NightHawkTheSaneprobably.
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05:09.13art3misheh long live metric!
05:09.22KemayoHey, it Just Makes Sense.
05:09.22art3misi hope we switch to a metric clock soon ;P
05:09.32NightHawkTheSanebut see.. we're uncivilized for not using metric, not for using a paper size that's a sane measurement in our system :P
05:09.33ZealotOnAStickanyone happen to know much about editing with Sony Vegas?
05:09.55art3mispint gallon foot inch yard mile ;P
05:10.02ZealotOnAStickstone
05:10.17Fisker-Metric ftw
05:10.27art3misi love that the first mars probe crashed because some dolt entered it in as imperial ;P
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05:12.27XuerianMetric? Cubic? PAH! CUBITS!
05:12.38Xuerianer.
05:12.44XuerianMetric? Imperial?* >.>
05:12.46abugslug
05:13.23NightHawkTheSane..
05:13.37NightHawkTheSaneokay.. odd question
05:14.19NightHawkTheSaneIf i have grid lines enabled in photoshop, will they show when i print the file, and if not, is there a way to do that easily?
05:15.09XuerianNo, and create a tile pattern that has a thin line on the right and bottom edge, then fill over the image
05:15.50NightHawkTheSane... how.. do i do that?
05:15.54NightHawkTheSane<-- total photoshop noob.
05:16.26art3misyou added an extra word there
05:16.56NightHawkTheSaneill add an extra word to YOU
05:17.39art3misRule?
05:18.30ckknightis anyone with me when I say that Java's lack of operator overloading is absurd?
05:18.54ckknightis alpha.divide(bravo) really clearer than alpha / bravo?
05:19.27art3misit makes for easier operator exclusion
05:19.54art3misor soemthing
05:20.18NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: poke?
05:20.36XuerianNightHawkTheSane: File->New->X by X (The size of the grid squares you want), Pencil (black), zoom in. Draw one pixel line for a small square, or a two pixel line for a large square, down the right side, then across the bottom. Edit->Define pattern. Make a new layer in your actual image, pick paint bucket, set mode to pattern, pick your pattern, fill layer with pattern, tweak to desire
05:21.42Kemayockknight: Well, I can see why they do it.  It's nice to not have to worry too much about / being overloaded to mean something crazy.
05:22.00ckknightcounterpoint:
05:22.07ckknightwhy the hell would you overload it to something crazy?
05:22.17ckknightor use a library that has it overloaded to something crazy
05:22.40ckknightlook at C# (very similar to Java). It has no real issues with operator overloading
05:22.48ckknightno one's screaming out for it to be abolished
05:22.54XuerianJust overloading anything else
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05:23.50KemayoI'd assume they're largely doing it because of the ideological "everything should belong to an object" stance.  (Which they totally half-assed by having primitive types and operators, of course.)
05:24.12ckknightyea
05:24.17ckknightalso, strings have operator overloads
05:24.20ckknightyet it's an object
05:24.44ckknightalso, I think it's 100% fucked to have to do "alpha".equals("bravo")
05:24.49ckknightinstead of "alpha" == "bravo"
05:25.02KemayoLet no-one claim that Java is a good example of how to do an OO language.
05:25.12ckknightyea...
05:25.20ckknightI mean, I'm not saying C#'s the holy grail either
05:25.24ckknightI just find it more pragmatic
05:25.33ckknightthough it doesn't pretend to be "pure" OO
05:25.44KemayoI'm somewhat spoiled by having learnt on Python, which I would hold up as having a much nicer approach.
05:25.45ckknightit holds to its functional roots, which, imho, isn't necessarily a bad thing
05:25.54ckknightyes, I agree
05:26.04ckknightPython 3000 looks pretty pimp thus far
05:26.39ckknightfrankly, though, I think Python could be better
05:26.46ckknightI don't like the mixed standards
05:26.57ckknightsome things are lowercase, some camelCase, some snake_case
05:26.58Fisker-i hate mexed missages
05:27.02KemayoAll languages should be improved until they become Lisp?
05:27.06ckknightfor fields/methods, I mean
05:27.10ckknightno, Kemayo
05:27.12ckknightjust no
05:27.23ckknightLisp thinks it's hot shit, but it got a few things wrong, imho
05:28.30ckknighte.g. everything as an expression is not necessarily the best in every situations (arguably)
05:28.58ckknightalso, I disagree with the tree notation of code, makes things too unnecessarily out there
05:29.16ckknightnote: I know everything compiles down to AST trees, but that can be done by the compiler instead of the developer
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05:32.09CIA-2203aldmehr * r42936 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: fixed a bug in swing activations
05:32.41starloninstalling WoW from scratch is a chore...
05:32.54Sole^ yes
05:33.08Solebut its not that bad if you have a full patch from BC install to current :)
05:33.17Sole*stabs* 400mb download
05:33.27starlonheh
05:33.36Solehmmrf, so Ive got a problemo: Im using Squeenix to move my minimap. But the world map button doesnt move with it
05:33.48starlonI'm running the downloader :\
05:34.05SoleIm guessing I could use MoveAnything to move Im just trying to find a solution without using a whole addon for 1 button
05:34.45JaxonDoes Visor still do that?
05:34.50starlonsimpleMinimap I think it's called. try that one.
05:35.50CIA-2203next96 * r42937 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:
05:35.50CIA-22Skinner:
05:35.50CIA-22- Update locale koKR
05:37.12Solestarlon: ok
05:41.05NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: got it working nicely, thanks. :)
05:41.11XuerianNightHawkAtWork: Sure thing.
05:41.47NightHawkTheSaneBleh, the things I go through to make good maps for my D&D games ><
05:46.23Soleman this is annoying
05:46.29Sole<PROTECTED>
05:48.05starlonI think you need #show Deadly Poison(Rank 7) or something like that
05:49.31Solewell, the line I pasted shows a count of the DP stack on the button
05:49.38Soleand your way doesnt :P
05:50.02Fisker-You don't even have to feed it an argument though
05:50.14Fisker-Unless you explicitly want to always show that spell
05:51.16SoleI want it to use the deadly poison icon, thats all
05:52.34art3misi love me "trial" wow+tbc dvd they sent me
05:52.54art3mishas wow to 2.1 and tbc installs
05:53.04art3mismakes life so much happier
05:53.10starlonI could use that right now.
05:53.30starlonI have about 1 minute left for 2.1 though, so meh
05:56.51Solewow
05:56.52Funkeh`later folks
05:56.59SoleI just finished mostly configuring my UI all over again
05:57.02Solewow crash
05:57.03SoleYAY
05:57.08SoleIm so happy right now
05:57.12Funkeh`l2 /rl more
05:57.22Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
05:57.23starlonI don't want to talk about crashes right now. :\
05:57.24Solesrsly :(
05:57.44starlonI just spent all day turning server 2003 enterprise into a gaming station
05:57.48RogueShadowckknight: Make your own Programming Language.
05:57.53Solewhats a good buff display addon? besides elkano's
05:57.57starloncause my fucking xp disk is borked
05:58.00art3mislaugh
05:58.13Fisker-i hate you starlon
05:58.14Fisker-oh
05:58.16Fisker-nevermind :P
05:58.20starlonlol
05:58.39Fisker-thought you were one of those "2003 desktop" people
05:58.42art3misat elst you didnt have to wipe and reinstall 2k3+exchange 4 times to finally get an answer from Good Link saying that they messed up the install guide and forgot a step
05:59.02art3misleast
05:59.02starlonWell I guess I am now, but not entirely by choice.
05:59.12Fisker-art3mis they forgot a "next" in the guide?
05:59.16starlonI just so happened to have the disk sitting around. My professor gave it to me.
05:59.37Fisker-(And yeah i know exchange is probably the most annoying shit to ever setup)
05:59.47art3misFisker-: they neglected to include the part about putting the exchange tools on the second server for it to even talk to the exchange server proerply ;P
05:59.57Wobworkcan anyone else get into the www.wowjutsu.com?
06:00.06Fisker-It's funny though
06:00.19Fisker-you can make a domain controller in a couple of minutes, no probs
06:00.31Fisker-but exchange is so insane i'd almost rather just change to linux
06:00.33art3misso the guide from start to finsih (both quick and full guide) neglected the need for the exchange tools on the good server(also 2k3)
06:00.48art3misit drove me insane
06:01.01art3misuntil FINALLY ifigured it out while i was on the phone with them
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06:01.07SoleWobwork: no
06:01.09art3misim an official KB on their site now ;P
06:01.27art3misgot a free moto Q for my troubles though
06:02.22art3misi LOVE doing the SP updates on exchange
06:02.35art3misi swear nothing ms has ever made is slower than sp2 "upgrade"
06:02.41durcynyou use microsoft products, you get what you deserve
06:02.49art3misnot by choice
06:03.17art3misclients need proper sync of thier email contacts calendars and blackberrys
06:03.25art3misimap4 just doesnt cut it ;P
06:03.36art3misand there is no good nix equiv
06:04.14art3misif it wasnt for the blackberrys i would have just built an fbsd mail toaster
06:04.32art3misbut noooOOOOOOoooo
06:04.34durcynblackberries?  tell them they're pompous assholes, then shoot them in the face.
06:04.46Mellow_what does blackberry use to sync calendar?
06:04.47art3misnah they pay me well ;P
06:04.52art3misBES
06:05.09art3mislittle program that grabs shit directly from exchange and pushes it to the blackberry
06:05.24Mellow_is it hardcoded?
06:05.40art3misfunny thing is i neglected to give it it's own account when i first set it up so outlook would sync to the device but not vice versa
06:05.50Mellow_i never had(and never wanted to have) a blackberry
06:05.53art3misit took them 2 months to notice
06:06.02art3misBlackberry Express Server
06:06.10art3miscustom software to integrate
06:06.41art3misessentially it pretends to be an exchange client grabs the info and sends it off to the device in a format that the BB knows
06:06.49art3misthe other option is goodlink
06:07.06art3miswhich behaves roughyl the same but installs its own little software on the device
06:07.15art3miscosts 3 times as much
06:07.27Mellow_:o)
06:07.36art3miswell the cost is because it needs its own machine
06:07.50Mellow_?
06:07.56CIA-2203sayclub * r42938 10Violation_EffectiveHealing/EffectiveHealing.lua: Violation_EffectiveHealing: Added translation koKR
06:08.02durcynand they're both complete an dutter unuseable shit, fwiw
06:08.07art3misso you end up with 2 2k3 boxes+exchange+thier software instead of BES(free)+exchange+2k3
06:08.17art3misyeah they are ugly
06:08.22art3misand bulky
06:09.02art3misbut when you're paid well to provide simple solutions that make them happy and doesnt ivole learning a new way of doing things for them...meh
06:09.20art3misBES is pretty enat though
06:09.33art3misand funny enough you can get unlimited CID's for free as well as the server for free
06:09.40CIA-2203krytharn * r42939 10Reputation/ (. Reputation.lua Reputation.toc): Reputation: -localization module added for enGB. Feel free to add your own language module. Contact krytharn [at] cowlumbus [dot] nl if you want to contribute a language file.
06:09.41art3misso "that" part cost absolutely nothing
06:09.47TuksWTB KArazhan group!
06:10.04durcynmeh, RIM wedges all the traffic through their systems though, then shrugs when the infrastructure blows up
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06:10.24art3misoh im totally with you that BB's suck crap
06:10.31art3mishave always hated them
06:11.07Mellow_why is it so popular?
06:11.13art3misit was the first
06:11.16Arrowmasterone of my guildmates uses one
06:11.17Mellow_i mean, i would use a pda instead of bb
06:11.26art3misnah pdas were expensive
06:11.29art3misand werent phones
06:11.35CIA-2203krytharn * r42940 10Reputation/Locale-enGB.lua: Reputation: -supplying the enGB file in a separate commit.
06:11.35art3misthats where the BB's took off
06:11.46Mellow_yes, but nowadays ...
06:11.48art3mistrue
06:11.52art3misbut old habits die hard
06:11.57Mellow_:D
06:12.04Mellow_true
06:12.05art3misi mean you're lokoing at people branching off from large BB companies and are used to that
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06:12.20art3misand dont wanna learn that smartphones and pdas kick the crap out of any BB device
06:12.21Arrowmasterive heard you can do some perty interesting things with BB's, like voip
06:12.28durcynthe competition is retarded too though.  windows mobile is a godawful piece of shit, and symbian's trying as hard as it can to kill itself
06:12.40Arrowmasterbut i bet you could do the same with pdas and smartphones
06:12.49art3misoh you totally can
06:12.54art3misi love my blackjack
06:13.15art3misto be fair WM5 isnt too bad
06:13.25Arrowmasterbut its windows
06:13.26art3misit destroys palm for usability
06:13.31art3misthats the downside
06:13.39art3misbut seeing as how you dont really have o buy the OS
06:13.45art3misits a negligable thing
06:13.46Mellow_windows not too bad on pdas
06:13.52durcynlast place i worked replaced my pager with an HTC wizard running WM, i haven't seen anything that unreliable since windows ME
06:13.55art3mispluys its familiar
06:14.03art3misthats another big selelr for wm5 on smartphones
06:14.03Arrowmasterive got a palm somewhere around here i never use
06:14.05durcyni had to reboot it twice a day
06:14.13art3miswow
06:14.28Thraedurcyn: Eh, I have an HTC Wizard (PPC6700), and never really had a problem with it.
06:14.28art3misive never had to reboot either of my wm devices on purpose
06:14.30durcynit wouldn't crash, just little applets would die randomly
06:14.43art3misipaq 2719rx and blackjack
06:14.46durcynmaybe it was cingular's fault, meh
06:15.16Thraedurcyn: I don't think Cingular had a version of the HTC Wizard -- those are CDMA phones w/ EVDO?
06:15.17art3misthe thing i wish they'd work on is battery life
06:15.27durcynThrae: the 8125 is a Wizard, yes
06:15.34Arrowmasterwhen i get a smartphone theres going to be one major feature that the OS must be able to do, need to be able to ssh from it
06:15.40durcyniirc HTC made both CDMA and GSM versions
06:15.45art3misits great that you've got this thig that can stream video and play music but when its only good for 4 hours before a charge that make it rather retarded
06:16.06Thraedurcyn: Ah right, Ustarcom just licensed it for CDMA
06:16.08art3misArrowmaster: wm5 can run that ;P
06:16.14Mellow_you can have a java ssh client even on your mobile...
06:16.15Arrowmasterbut well!
06:16.15durcynart3mis: that's the other part that infuriates me.  it streams videos and plays music, in microsoft's proprietary bullshit DRM format
06:16.16art3misi think putty has a mobile version
06:16.22Mellow_yep
06:16.34Arrowmastermust be able to ssh well from it not just ssh
06:16.35durcynfor that reason alone i hope the iphone takes off.  AAC and H.264 are about as vendor neutral as you can get.
06:16.35Thraeart3mis: Yep, I do IRC with it, ssh'ing back to my irssi screen ;)
06:16.44Mellow_but its crap, you can ssh, but not too smart
06:16.45art3misdurcyn: yeah but compare that to blackberry and palm... yer not really winning either way ya go
06:17.14art3misthe only major advatage that wm has is that LOTS of people use it so there are shitloads of hacks and stuff
06:17.15durcynart3mis: that's the thing.  every player so far is content to just rehash the same broken shit.  makes me want to line them up and slap them.
06:17.20art3misand dev to support other formats
06:17.32Thraedurcyn: Erm, you can have open source codecs on your WM phone ^^;; Really, the only thing new about iPhone is the amazing hype its getting. It's a $600 machine for crying out loud, that doesn't even have all the features of existing PPCs.
06:18.03art3mishehe iw atched some kid drop his iphone on the subway stairs the other day
06:18.11art3misi dont think ive laughed so hard in my life
06:18.12Fisker-Thrae well there's the multi-touch screen
06:18.14durcynThrae: you say that, but people are actually buying it, and will actually expect content to work on it, and will bitch and moan when it doesn't
06:18.15Fisker-but that was it
06:18.15Arrowmaster$600 for something you cant run custom software on isnt that good of a deal
06:18.26art3misif i had a choice i'd just get a libretto
06:18.31art3misgod i love the librettos
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06:18.41ThraeFisker-: "Multi-touch"? Meaning you can touch two things at once?
06:18.45art3misthey are the single greatest palm computer ever made
06:18.47durcynThrae: and that means, since apple has flat out refused to bundle annoying proprietary crap like flash, that content providers now have a real incentive to provide things in open formats
06:19.00Fisker-Thrae meaning you can use more than 1 finger for input
06:19.13Fisker-i.e. the pinching effect you can do on some pictures
06:19.19Fisker-or stretch
06:19.20durcynthey basically strong-armed google into moving Youtube from flash video to H.264.  that's saying something.
06:19.25Thraedurcyn: That's true, but for $300, you can get a PPC6700 and mod the firmware to get rid of most of the crap ;)
06:19.30art3misthrae: yeah pda use since touch as do most touch screens
06:19.46durcynThrae: Yes, but that plays WMV, and thusly provides no incentive to use things non-WMV
06:19.54Thraedurcyn: Your problems with Cingular might have been the environment they provided -- I hear all the environments except Sprint are crap.
06:19.55art3misdrm bugs me
06:20.06art3misi like cingular
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06:20.14art3misonce i removed thier im clients
06:20.16durcynThrae: well, it was a locked Wizard, i only had Cingular's version of the firmware to test.  and god it blew.
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06:20.19art3miswhich made me laugh so hard
06:20.21ZealotOnAStickAside from h.264 being a vastly superior codec to flv
06:20.39art3misdid you know that on cingular they count IM's through the internet as txt messages?
06:20.40Thraedurcyn: Eh, iPhone also promotes the iPod, and the phone itself is only supported by ONE carrier so far.
06:20.44Adirelledoes "Remaining time under which buffs are to be recast" make sense in proper english ?
06:20.46art3misand bill you accordingly fi you dont have a plan?
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06:21.14ZealotOnAStickadirelle, yes, sort of, but it's awkward.
06:21.19art3misif you use thier provided client that is
06:21.28Thraeart3mis: That's because SMS is a hell of a lot cheaper then charging you $/MB, which is what you would be charged if you used an IM client that went through the data line.
06:21.30ZealotOnAStickTry something like "Time remaining to rebuff"
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06:21.39art3misthrae: i have unlimited data ;P
06:21.53art3misi however dont do txt messages so......
06:21.56durcynThrae: all mobile carriers ar evil, apple did what they had to do to wedge in that video voicemail gimmick, which is of questionable value to begin with.  i would've preferred to see them start selling unlocked phones direct to the consumer, but the existing handset manufacturers would've shit.  it's too radical of a departure from the existing model to work, but maybe that's where we're headed
06:22.04art3misi setup a web bounce from my miranda client to use ims
06:22.18durcynThrae: either way, it's an apple product.  no way in hell i'm touching it until version 2.0
06:22.24Thraeart3mis: Well then you need to use a different IM client. If your phone doesn't support that, then that's not cingular's fault -- your phone just sucks :D
06:22.41art3misthrae: heh oh i removed theier client the second the first bill showed up
06:22.53art3misthey dont tell you that they are sms and not data
06:22.54durcynbut i really do hope it gains sufficient market share to give AAC and H.264 a bigger presence.. if it does that, it's succeeded
06:22.57Thraedurcyn: And no way in hell I'm touching it until it gets down to $300 ;)
06:23.07Mellow_if your phone supports ssh, you dont need any other IM client :o)
06:23.16Jaxonirssi and bitlbee
06:23.19durcynand if it eats part of the windows mobile marketshare in the process, yay!
06:23.31art3misheh
06:23.47art3misnow i just need to find someone to trade my verizon moto q for a gsm versioned one
06:23.50ThraePalm is already eating part of the Windows Mobile marketplace -- Blackberries are very, very popular, and a lot of companies I know use Palms, not WM phones
06:24.03durcynanyway, i have no clue why i'm still awake at this hour
06:24.05Thraes/a lot/most/
06:24.08art3misto be fair though treo with palm software is great
06:24.17Thraedurcyn: It's only 2:30am EST!
06:24.18art3mistreo with WM is a hideous piece of crap
06:26.53art3miswhat kind of eprson would get a ps2 with a 160gb drive and a codebreaker boot disc but NOT get it modded
06:26.57art3misperson
06:27.03art3misdarn wierdos i tells ya
06:27.39Mellow_some people buy pc games, and not crack it :o)
06:27.53art3misi fidn that so hard to believe
06:27.57art3misfind ;P
06:28.01Mellow_:DD
06:28.02art3misit jus doesnt make sense
06:28.19art3misyou burn games and paly them if they dont suck and you dont beat them in a day you buy them ;P
06:28.29art3misim of the belief that warez are like a library ;P
06:28.36Mellow_who knows? if you mod it, and after it crashes will they relace it?
06:28.42art3misyou borrow it for a while and if you sign it out more than twice you buy it ;P
06:28.53art3misof course not
06:28.58art3mishehe i bricked my psp btw ;)
06:29.01Mellow_maybe thats the reason
06:29.06art3misaccidently fucked the flashrom
06:29.10Mellow_i dont have console at home, so i dont know
06:29.29art3misbut not i get to take it apart and stuff without fear of damage ;P
06:29.39art3misnow
06:30.12art3misMellow_: but really why put a hdd in yer ps2 AND get a disc to cheat at the games and not mod it ;P
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06:31.06Mellow_no idea :o)
06:34.08Mellow_has anybody using gentoo as desktop and play wow on it?
06:34.21art3misdur does i think
06:34.43Mellow_i guess he is gone :o)
06:34.48art3miswhy?
06:35.02art3misive mucked with rpetty much every linux distro recently
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06:35.24art3misas long as you get  the 3d accel from the video drivers working right wine or crossover work great
06:35.24Mellow_the question is, how about the performance
06:35.41art3misa bit less than under windows
06:35.44art3misbut not much
06:35.57art3misdepends on yer card mainly though
06:36.06WobworkI find the reduction in performace is easily outweighed by the lack of stress due to not running windows =P
06:36.09Mellow_to be honest, i have a pretty slow performance on windows right now
06:36.14Acolarruns fine on my comp.
06:36.16Wobwork(Not that I have tried in Windows with my current card)
06:36.20Mellow_i mean to login it took 40s?
06:36.32Mellow_too much addon i guess, but i couldnt track wahts the problem
06:36.35art3misit actually ran faster in linuxxp+crossover than it did on the same machine running xp
06:36.36WobworkMellow_: try cleaning out your base World of Warcraft folder
06:36.47Wobworkit scans that whole folder when the progrm starts up
06:36.54Wobworkso if you have all the patches et al, it can take some time
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06:36.58Mellow_when i login to the world?
06:37.04Wobworkah, that's an addon thing then =)
06:37.18Mellow_art3mis: how much you have to pay for crossover?
06:37.23Wobworkwine works fine btw
06:37.25art3misi found it ;P
06:37.28Mellow_:D
06:37.29WobworkI've not had any issue with wine
06:37.33CIA-2203morgalm * r42941 10MorgDKP/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
06:37.33CIA-22MorgDKP:
06:37.33CIA-22- deDE & enUS update bosses
06:37.33CIA-22- alt-click fubar icon toggles ml/de
06:37.33CIA-22- tooltip on itemhistory
06:37.35CIA-22- fubar tooltip has current run loot
06:37.37art3miswine has come a long way though
06:37.37CIA-22- click fubar loot to show item dialogue
06:37.41Mellow_what is linuxxp?
06:37.57WobworkI'm surprised they didn't call it linuxp
06:38.06art3misa windowsey wine heavy version of linux
06:38.18art3misits meant as a pay replacement
06:38.25art3misso it looks the sameish
06:39.00Mellow_it's a virtual machine?
06:39.11art3misso far sabayon linux is my fav out of the box
06:39.17art3misbut it behaves wierdly at times
06:39.19art3misnope
06:39.23art3misits a linux install
06:39.39Mellow_i just google it, and linux-xp.com :o)
06:39.41art3misjust a custom interface and win related stuff to make it accept windows program instaklls etc
06:39.47art3miswine
06:40.17Fisker-screw this
06:40.21Fisker-i think i'll try to install gentoo
06:40.23Mellow_anyway i will try wine
06:40.32art3missaby's main drawback is that while its geared towards gaming and such, it reacts kind of odd on my machine
06:40.32Fisker-If i couldn't install ubuntu, i can definately install gentoo
06:40.44JaxonFisker-: gentoo is fun.  If you like waiting.
06:40.47art3misFisker-: get fedora7
06:40.53Fisker-no u :(
06:40.58Mellow_gentoo is not about waiting :o)
06:40.59art3misor opensus 10.2
06:41.06art3missuse
06:41.16art3misthose are simpler than ubuntu
06:41.19art3misand not as gay
06:41.21Fisker-gentoo should be worth the effort :O
06:41.43Mellow_i do not install gentoo because i want my system works 20ns faster :o)
06:43.24DynomArch is nice; not rly mature enough for desktop though
06:43.36JaxonArch is awesome, if you already know what you are doing.
06:44.14Dynomyeh
06:44.32JaxonUbuntu, I had to tear down a functional desktop OS and rebuild, arch, didn't have to tear it down.
06:45.22DynomI like the way you can easily make your own packages or change config parameters
06:45.26Dynomit's seriously easy
06:45.37Dynomwith rpm-src it's a bitch
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06:46.01Dynombut I like the system opensuse works with, so I use that atm
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06:47.13JaxonNow I have to figure out why XLoot isn't the right revision in game, but MacAce says it is up to date.
06:47.15JaxonBlast.
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06:48.00Mellow_one more question, how do i track why is the login so slow?
06:48.39Mellow_and where can I modify the memory limit for addons?(I didnt see it anymore on the addons tab)
06:48.51JaxonMemory limit is no longer required.
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06:49.23ThraeEveryone had it at 0 anyway, which was usually allocated sanely, especially now
06:51.15Mellow_and im using some heavy addons like auctioner, exchangetooltip maybe i should disable them?
06:51.19Fisker-Jaxon because revision is only updated when the relevant files are updated
06:52.09JaxonFisker-: that doesn't explain why in game, XLoot options tooltip is giving me 39xxx revision.
06:52.33Fisker-yes it does
06:52.43ThraeMellow_: Auctioneer only loads when you open up the Auction Window for the first time per UI reload. That is unless you disabled "Stubby".
06:52.45Fisker-The Revision field is only updated when the file is updated or touched
06:53.08Fisker-That means the file that xloot get it's revision from is not updated since
06:53.34Mellow_stubby is the dynamic addon loader?
06:53.41ThraeMellow_: Yep.
06:55.15Mellow_then i dotn know what could be the problem
06:55.28JaxonFisker-: I KNOW I'm missing features.  A guildmate has been raving about the "ML auto-random BoEs" thing and I can't seem to find it.
06:58.00Arrowmasterthats not in XLoot
06:58.01Fisker-that's XlootMaster
06:58.09JaxonTHEN HE LIED TO ME AND SHALL DIE
06:58.14Fisker-cool
06:58.19Fisker-post pics btw
06:58.31ZealotOnAStick*sigh* I can't find some fitting music for Stage 1 of the Al'ar video.
06:58.46Fisker-put in a porn movie
06:59.04JaxonZealotOnAStick: Great Balls of Fire
06:59.10ZealotOnAStickAlready did porn music on Hydross.
06:59.26[Ammo]twinkle twinkle little star!
06:59.35ZealotOnAStickNah, I want something slow and pastoral or trancelike for phase 1.
06:59.42Fisker-then you did it too late ZealotOnAStick
07:00.22ThraeSpeaking of DRM, anyone remember that DRM firm that was suing people for -not- using DRM, saying it violated the DCMA? The firm also claimed their DRM was the best, and the DCMA also says people should use the best protection available.
07:00.51ThraeLet's all hope Microsoft doesn't join them, since then they'd win ;)
07:01.13Fisker-sounds like the best kind of guys
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07:02.33RoartindonZealotOnAStick: How long does it take you guys to kill al'ar?
07:02.43RoartindonZealotOnAStick: (ie. how much headroom before enrage do you havE?)
07:03.18ZealotOnAStickWell, we tend to artificially prolong stage 1 a bit, to try to get about 10 embers stacked up on the druid OT(s).
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07:03.41ZealotOnAStickThen P2 we usually kill Al'ar with 2 1/2 minutes or better to enrage left.
07:03.56ThraeParsing (...) as a string looks like boobies.
07:03.58ZealotOnAStickonly done it 3 times so far, so "usually" is a lot of presumption.
07:03.59RoartindonZealotOnAStick: Hmm.. to get 10 stacked up, you start gathering around 50% down?
07:04.16ZealotOnAStickNah, we start gathering embers from the first one.
07:04.20Thraefor opt,value in string.gmatch("(.-),(.-)") do ..... end
07:04.28ZealotOnAStickOur Phase 1 DPS is pretty stupidly high.
07:04.34[Ammo]weird boobies
07:04.45ThraeI need sleep, obviously.
07:04.48RoartindonZealotOnAStick: We tried last week with 2 warlocks 1 hunter as our only dps in phase 1.. not particualrly high dps :P
07:04.57ZealotOnAStickWe could probably drop him into Phase 2 with maybe 4 or 5 embers produced.
07:05.04[Ammo]we killed lurker for first time yesterday
07:05.10Dynom[Ammoo]: gz
07:05.12[Ammo]people finally learned to get their gear wet
07:05.14ZealotOnAStickRoartindon: better than the WORST STRAT EVAR! that our GL had us trying for a bit.
07:05.20Dynoms/Ammoo/Ammo/
07:05.21RoartindonZealotOnAStick: what was taht?
07:05.29[Ammo]next new boss Leothress
07:05.43Thrae80% Dodge Rogues make the best tanks!
07:05.46DynomLurker is pretty fun imo
07:05.49ZealotOnAStick"ok, I want to just save up 30 embers and then ae them at the start of P2 and reduce him to nearly dead in one go.  So, Wand P1 Al'ar down."
07:06.00RoartindonZealotOnAStick: I'm guessing it didn't go so well? :P
07:06.04ZealotOnAStickLurker's nice, he needs to drop my damn belt again.
07:06.10ZealotOnAStickLeotheras is a fun fight.
07:06.24ZealotOnAStickAside from it being boring as all fuck while we run around wanding for 30 minutes . . .
07:06.31Arrowmasteri dont want to have to respec for leotheras =(
07:06.33Roartindon30 minutes....... ouch
07:06.38ZealotOnAStickeventually one tank or another loses focus, misses a transition pick up . . .
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07:06.46ZealotOnAStickAs I said . . .
07:06.52ZealotOnAStickWORST STRAT EVAR!!!1111one.
07:07.04[Ammo]hehe
07:07.11[Ammo]get a better strat then
07:07.42ZealotOnAStickNow we try to get 10 embers, maybe just go with 9, drop him in P1, and enough people have learned to 1) not stand next to the pretty birdies who are about to blow up and 2) move the fuck out of the flame patches.
07:08.16ZealotOnAStickFor a guild with as many really good players as we have, sometimes people can be absolute fucktards on simple execution.
07:08.42CIA-2203adirelle * r42942 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua locale-enUS.lua locale-frFR.lua):
07:08.42CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
07:08.42CIA-22- added configurable rebuff time threshold,
07:08.42CIA-22- added fully configurable reminder.
07:09.05ZealotOnAStickArrowmaster: you're a lock I take it?
07:09.07DynomZealotOnAStick: you use warlock offtank ?
07:09.21ZealotOnAStickDynom: for what?
07:09.45ArrowmasterZealotOnAStick: yes and i have over 100 badges of justice saved up, but i really really dont want to have to fucking tank leotheras
07:09.51Dynomfor leotheras ofc
07:09.56mitch0morgen
07:10.00Dynomhowdy
07:10.02ZealotOnAStickWe use two, a primary and a backup.
07:10.08ZealotOnAStickand soulstone both.
07:10.32ZealotOnAStickBecause it seems like they take either almost no damage at all, or "omfgwhathappenedhe's dead?!"
07:11.07ZealotOnAStickYou don't have to have Soul Link (though it's a nice buffer the first couple of times) if you have enough of the heroic stam/fr gear.  You just want lots of health and lots of FR.
07:11.45Dynomyeh I was thinking of going to purchase that FR/stam stuff
07:12.01ZealotOnAStickMainly work on your CoDoom timing and quick pickup with searing pain.  The tough part of the fight isn't that, it's all the other aggro wipes, healers killing their inner demons, etc.
07:12.31Dynomsounds that dots would be perfect for it tbh
07:12.34ZealotOnAStickReal real easy to pull aggro right on a transition or end of whirlwind.
07:13.12Dynomyou can keep yourself alive with some draining
07:13.24Arrowmasterluckly i think when we down lurker were moving to morogrim (again) or fathom lord
07:13.40ZealotOnAStickYou'll want to load him up about 10 seconds before a transition into demon with imm and corr, and time your doom so it hits right after a switch (I -think- you want about 14 seconds after he goes elf)
07:14.12ZealotOnAStickwhat sucks is the occasional resisted Doom.
07:15.15[Ammo]searing PAIN
07:15.44Dynomfor a boss with a lot of fire damage it's silly that he has a low fire resistance
07:15.59CIA-2203next96 * r42943 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:
07:15.59CIA-22ItemPriceTooltip :
07:15.59CIA-22- Update locale koKR
07:16.04ZealotOnAStickyeah, the searing spam is presumed.
07:16.06Dynomand I think the arena gloves are interesting
07:16.29Dynomwhich gives an additional interrupt avoid on sp casts iirc
07:17.16Dynomnad nether protection could be a interesting also
07:17.18Dynomand*
07:17.28Dynomor is theere a big time between his casts?
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07:18.26mitch0[ammo]: may I commit this keybinding patch to vio (when I get home): http://ace.pastey.net/70365, http://ace.pastey.net/70366
07:18.29ZealotOnAStickevery 2 seconds or thereabouts.
07:18.36CIA-2203jerry * r42944 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_frFR.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate
07:20.37ZealotOnAStickaaeeeieeiee.
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07:20.51ZealotOnAStickI just stumbled across a Smurfs song techno remix.
07:22.13Wobworkhttp://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb121/Aroooga/WoWScrnShot_070507_032426.jpg
07:23.20ZealotOnAStickHeh.
07:23.24evlhahaha
07:23.27ZealotOnAStickMy 3v3 team is "Arena is Broken"
07:23.48ZealotOnAStickand my 2v2 is "More Cowbell"
07:24.07evlmy 2v2 is SHE SAID SHE WAS LEGAL
07:24.12evland my 3v3 is Rød Pølse
07:24.36ZealotOnAStickWe hit a really good 3v3 the other day called "ASSIST THE LOCK"
07:25.08ZealotOnAStickand it's really, really annoying how long a paladin can keep a rogue alive.
07:25.13evlThe #1 5v5 team in my previous bg was named LOLOLOL LINE OF SIGHT LOLOLL
07:26.26ZealotOnAStickI don't even know who the top teams are/were.  I only started arena because the merciless gladiator's spellblade is just too good.
07:26.37ZealotOnAStickand it makes me wish I'd played in S1 just to have points stocked up.
07:26.52WobworkI should make one with druids: 'YOU'RE A KITTY!"
07:27.19ZealotOnAStickThere's one in Rampage I dunno which server was "NOKITTYMAHPOTPIE"
07:27.29Wobworkhehe
07:27.32Wobworkbad dildo!
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07:36.28mitch0ckk: are you around?
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07:37.54ZealotOnAStickHeh.
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07:38.10ZealotOnAStickI'm tempted to use Kylie Minogue's "Your Disco Needs You" for P1.
07:38.30CIA-2203jerry * r42945 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix combat rating conversion constants.
07:38.45Fisker-don't do it!
07:38.55ZealotOnASticknot going to.
07:38.59ZealotOnAStickbut the thought of it amuses me.
07:41.20[Ammo]like a virgin
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08:16.03CIA-2203adirelle * r42946 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/druid.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed typo in buffs/druid.lua.
08:16.23cryogensimpleselfrebuff, that sounds like the sort of lazy thing i need
08:16.33cryogenwhat's it do? :)
08:17.00mitch1it's probably some SCT like thing :P
08:17.00[Ammo]try it? read the code
08:17.26cryogenyeah well im installing it now, but im at work so cant actually see it till tonight :)
08:17.31Adirellecryogen: select your buffs, use your mousewheel, it buffs...
08:17.44cryogensweet
08:18.10cryogenalso is the fact that the baggins fubar plugin has disappeared, known?
08:18.14Adirellewell... that's the aim actually, but as I only have one character, an hunter, I need testers for other classes
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08:19.12cryogenwell, i can test druid, paladin, priest, mage
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08:20.31Adirellenice
08:20.46AdirelleI need to check that 1) all buffs are recognized (basic)
08:21.20Adirelleand I need testing with paladin blessings and auras with several paladins in the same group
08:21.33Adirellethat part is quite tricky
08:22.23cryogenif i remember i will have a play over the weekend :)
08:24.57mitch0[ammo] well, it will be needed if I run out of macros...
08:25.08[Ammo]no it will not
08:25.41[Ammo]you can create a button, add a keybinding, add a function
08:25.42[Ammo]done
08:25.56[Ammo]no need for fugly binding.xml junk
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08:32.44CIA-2203kilmmax * r42947 10autoLFG/ (. autoLFG.lua autoLFG.toc autoLFG.xml): autoLFG: initial commit
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08:42.17abbat_wGood day guys
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08:45.44abbat_wmitch0..n ;)
08:45.54abbat_wmitch[0..n]
08:46.24mitch0:) when I was younger, I cared about my nick and was annoyed when it was taken. then I came up with this scheme :)
08:47.53mitch0gmail kinda screwed me anyway, mitch[0-9] is owned :)
08:49.26Wobin_I was quite disappointed in gmail
08:49.37Wobin_When I signed up, the example screenshot had 'robin@gmail.com'
08:49.38mitch0wobin was taken as well? :P
08:49.51Wobin_But they only allowed 6 or more characters as a username
08:49.58Wobin_bastards
08:50.25Wobin_I probably could have gotten Wobin@gmail if they'd let up on that ruling
08:50.26mitch0well, apart from my lame nick there, I kinda like gmail
08:50.36Wobin_oh yeah, gmail rocks
08:51.13abbat_wbtw
08:51.20CIA-2203kilmmax * r42948 10autoLFG/: autoLFG: commit externals
08:51.24abbat_wsome mods was broken after maintenance
08:51.27abbat_wlike proximo
08:51.47abbat_wAnd ArenaLiveFrames won't work at new arena ;(
08:52.37abbat_w;)
08:53.02Wobin_why broken?
08:54.04mitch0eh: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z304/kurkk/WoWScrnShot_070507_013108.jpg
08:54.16mitch0when all the rollhackers join the same pug :)
08:55.34striperLOL
08:55.37TrancerLOL
08:56.13evlROFL
08:56.15Wobin_hm
08:56.27Wobin_how the hell can you turn -off- cower on a pet?
08:56.33Punkie`right click the icon
08:57.01Wobin_even when not autocasting, it still casts
08:57.09Punkie`huh?
08:57.13nevcairielit shouldnt,r eally
08:57.25nevcairielreplace it with a taunting pet then
08:57.28nevcairielno cowering :P
08:59.29Wobin_unless it has the same cooldown as growl?
08:59.46Punkie`yes, i think so
08:59.46abbat_whehe
08:59.54Punkie`didn't you check your combat log?!
08:59.58abbat_wmitch0 love playing with eePanels ;)
09:00.14Wobin_ah that'd be it =P
09:01.32Wobin_Growl doesn't show up on the combat log for me/...
09:04.45mitch0abbat_w: huh?
09:05.07mitch0I have no idea what eePanes are :)
09:05.14abbat_wit's you ui at screenshot?
09:05.26abbat_wwith hackrolls
09:05.36evleePanels =  gradient = self:CreateTexture(nil, "BORDER"); gradient:SetGradientAlpha("VERTICAL", .1, .1, .1, 0, .25, .25, .25, .5)
09:05.44mitch0no. random forum post
09:08.11Fisker-oh
09:08.16Fisker-that's why my partition doesn't work
09:08.25Fisker-Put my swap as raid and my raid as swap
09:08.30Fisker-O_o
09:08.37Fisker-160GB swap ftw
09:08.37abbat_wI'm using eePanels
09:08.46abbat_wAnd i think it's great mod
09:09.05krkawtf... 160 gb swap partition?
09:09.07krkawhy???
09:09.19krkai have 2 gig swap, and i _never_ use any of it
09:09.52Fisker-krka read up :P
09:10.03Fisker-I mistakenly put the swap tag on my 160GB raid partition
09:10.06krkaah
09:10.08krkasorry :)
09:10.11krkareading up FTL
09:10.11Fisker-:P
09:10.14Fisker-nooo
09:10.35Fisker-so
09:10.39Fisker-mdadm is doing some stuff :P
09:10.49Fisker-can i stop it?
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09:11.40CIA-2203nevcairiel * r42949 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SSC/Lurker: fixed a typo in deDE translation
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09:12.48evlnevcairiel: Another really annoying thing about the Lurker module
09:12.59evlnevcairiel: Is that all his abilities are prefixed "Possible"
09:13.36nevcairielthey do not always happen
09:13.39nevcairielthats why possible :P
09:14.51evlmaybe make a window instead
09:15.20evlthe first whirl timer is off by anything from -2 to +5 seconds
09:18.23[Ammo]shrug
09:18.34[Ammo]the first one can be off due to combat detection
09:18.36[Ammo]which is annoying
09:18.48[Ammo]but can't be helped
09:19.14evlbetter have it removed
09:19.21evlso people can just stay put until the first one fires
09:19.42nevcairielbeing hit by one whirl will not kill you know..
09:21.23evlthen what is the timer for again?
09:23.14nevcairieljust saying that the first timer being off doesnt really hurt you .. just use the other timers to really avoid the whirl then :P
09:23.37evlHow long is kara lockout?
09:24.02nevcairiel?
09:24.04nevcairiellockout?
09:24.06CIA-2203rabbit * r42950 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Another bugfix in GetOutfitsUsingItem.
09:24.11evlas in how long is it on cooldown
09:24.15nevcairielah
09:24.16nevcairiela week
09:24.22evlpoop
09:24.34nevcairielyouve been to lurker and dont know how long kara cooldown is ? :P
09:24.37nevcairiel*shrug
09:24.40Punkie`evl: most of the time you complain about the whirlwind timer off is when you get a knockback from whatever his other ability is :p
09:25.11evlPunkie`: no it makes another sound :D
09:25.17evlWOSH
09:25.32Punkie`hey, you whine - not me!
09:25.45Arrowmasteromfg he finally got smart! i was camping a lvl 36 rogue on my lvl 20 hunter and after killing him about 5 times he came back and started using throw to daze me
09:27.15cryogens
09:27.26Arrowmasterhaha
09:27.50Arrowmasteri killed him 2-3 times with nothing but serpent sting and auto shot
09:28.37Arrowmasterhe killed me once, went through my 600 hp in about 6 hits
09:29.01Arrowmastertook me atleast 5 minutes each time to kill him
09:29.33cryogena level 19 twink hunter kited my 51 paladin a while back
09:29.40Arrowmasterouch
09:29.48cryogentook me ages to kill the little bastard
09:29.59cryogenhad to wait for stun cooldowns to come up to get close :)
09:30.07nevcairielpoor classes without any range abilites :P
09:30.21Punkie`cryogen: easiest way to defeat someone that kites you
09:30.30Punkie`run away, then when they run for you, run back :P
09:30.45cryogenwell, he was mostly running away rather than kiting
09:30.48cryogenbut still
09:30.51Arrowmasterthats what this rogue kept trying to do
09:30.51Punkie`haha
09:30.56Arrowmasterstill didnt get close to me
09:31.00Wobin_avenger's shield? =)
09:31.11cryogeni was ret at the time :p
09:31.20Wobin_"Hold on, lemme respec"
09:31.29cryogeni just killed him when repentence came off cooldown
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09:31.57evlMmmm, AV day!
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09:39.24PHL-Chuckwau is going java? cry
09:39.25abbat_w<cryogen> a level 19 twink hunter kited my 51 paladin a while back
09:39.32abbat_whow he do this?
09:39.38abbat_w19 lvl vs 51 lvl
09:39.39PHL-Chuckhaha
09:39.44cryogeni didnt say he killed me
09:39.55cryogenhe just run around annoying me
09:39.56abbat_wHe should miss you 99.9% =)
09:40.10cryogenah but you dont appreciated the imbaness of hunters
09:40.11PHL-Chuckget on a mount and chase him down
09:40.39cryogenthey dont have the same sort of higher level reductions that normal classes do
09:40.49abbat_wcrap
09:40.52PHL-Chuckyeah ranged ignores armor
09:40.58PHL-Chuckfor the most part
09:41.13abbat_wno
09:41.15cryogenand conc shot cant be resisted, only missed etc
09:41.18abbat_wonly spells ignores
09:41.32Wobin_bubble and charge =P
09:41.50PHL-Chuckwell for experience of leveling newb hunters, you don't get low damage on higher level mobs
09:41.50cryogenwell yeah i was using blessing of freedom
09:41.57abbat_wstun hunter, kill pet. then spit on hunter ;)
09:42.00cryogenbut yeah, when all you have is melee range :p
09:42.11PHL-Chuckmy druid eats hunters
09:42.21PHL-Chuckcause they don't know they can fear beast me
09:42.22abbat_wmy mage eat all ;)
09:42.25cryogeni did stun him
09:42.27cryogentwice
09:42.33cryogenbut he was a twink so had assloads of hp
09:42.37cryogenand yeah, paladin dps ..
09:42.45PHL-Chuck51 pally tho.. damn
09:42.55cryogendont remember what level i was actually
09:43.00cryogenbut it was over 40 since i had repenence
09:43.04cryogen+t
09:43.04abbat_wcryogen, sometimes at BG paladins hit me about 1k5 crits
09:43.52cryogenabbat_w: sometimes at bg, mages crit me for 5k
09:43.53cryogentrue story
09:45.03PHL-Chuckheh
09:45.13abbat_w;)
09:45.20PHL-Chuckarcane power + trinket + pyro 5k is easy
09:45.27abbat_wi have about 380 resilience
09:45.39cryogeni have about 0 :D
09:45.42cryogendont pvp much at all
09:45.55abbat_wap + trinket + berserk buff + frostbolt crit + special stance
09:46.07abbat_wand i crit warrior for 6k+ with frostbolt ;)
09:47.18PHL-Chuckwant retarded lowbie damage?  druid mangle at 50
09:47.51PHL-Chuckat 59 I went to outland and was hitting people around my level for 900 with it
09:48.14PHL-Chuckand thats just like a hemo or sisinster strike for rogue
09:49.05PHL-Chuckwow wau gonna have ads.
09:50.31phyberso, I got a new icon for FuBar: http://www.toolbarn.com/product/stanley/55-099/
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09:54.03[Ammo]PHL-Chuck: ads pay for the server
09:59.42theoddone33I don't suppose there's any way to get dr. damage numbers on icons for macros that use the question mark?
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10:00.27phyber#showtooltip
10:00.32phyber#show
10:00.44theoddone33ah cool
10:01.00theoddone33I'll play with that
10:01.14phyberprobably don't need the show, just as long as the #showtooltip is there it should work. (#showtooltip must be before #show if you do use #show)
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10:04.13[Ammo]phyber: oh it works fine the other way around as well
10:05.38mitch0is that performance issue fixed already with conditionals?
10:06.01mitch0for which the workarount is to use #show <something>?
10:06.35mitch0well, gotta run. seeya
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10:10.33phyber[Ammo]: perhaps it depends on what you called the macro then.  since I usually give them a name other than the main spell.
10:11.33phyber[Ammo]: for example, I'll call my macro to banish my focused mob, 'Focus Banish', if #show comes before #showtooltip, it doesn't work.  it probably would if I did '#show Banish', but it's too late for that, I just write them the other way around now ;)
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10:13.04Cheadsdont think you need #show if you use #showtooltip anymore
10:13.17starlonyou don't
10:13.41phyber\o/
10:13.46Arrowmasterdid you ever?
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10:18.38sag_ich_nichtbad autojoin. no cookie.
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10:21.43[Ammo]I always do #show Banish
10:21.48[Ammo]for my focusbanish
10:21.59sag_ich_nichtokay
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10:22.07sag_ich_nichthow do i add a sound to the sharedmedialib? :O
10:23.28winkillerwhat should #show do?
10:23.44winkillerjust the argument? and showtooltip the whole tooltip?
10:23.54winkillerI couldn't get that to do anything last time I tried
10:23.58CIA-2203nevcairiel 07nevcairiel * r42951 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (9 files): Bartender3: (branch) restructuring files
10:23.59sag_ich_nicht#show is supposed to show the current icon for what ever you would do
10:24.08sag_ich_nicht#showtooltip would show that +the tooltip for it
10:24.09sag_ich_nichtiirc
10:24.14sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel
10:24.18sag_ich_nichti will hurt you
10:24.20sag_ich_nichtreally bad
10:24.51sag_ich_nichtif this ends in another 20 commits in 5 minutes because you can't decide how the directory structure should look like
10:24.54nevcairieli would hope so
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10:27.05winkillerhaha
10:27.30Undinebag mods are weird. quite why my everlasting underspore frond is in the armor section...
10:28.01cryogenhaha
10:28.07CIA-2203nevcairiel 07nevcairiel * r42952 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (ActionBarStates.lua Bartender3.toc Core.lua States.lua): Bartender3: (branch) fix .toc and increase version number
10:28.25sag_ich_nichtUndine just use engbags >.>
10:28.46Undinei used to. but then it went ages without an update, and started showing me wrong info
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10:29.18Undinethen i found ArkInv and it was good, and it worked with closetgnome, and it was good, and then it didn't, which was bad
10:29.25Undineso now i'm trying baggins
10:29.37cryogenbaggins has lost it's fubar icon for me
10:29.42cryogenits too
10:29.54sag_ich_nichti'm too lazy to look it up, what's the mediatype for audio in SharedMediaLib and does WoW support only .mp3 or also .wav?
10:29.56Undinesame, you can get it back by toggling show minimap on and off
10:30.04cryogenoh nice, thanks
10:30.05nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: wav too
10:30.17Undinebut then you can't drag it around, only choose l/m/r
10:30.28sag_ich_nichtokay now tell me the mediatype >.> wiki only lists fonts and statusbar
10:30.34cryogenheh
10:30.39cryogengood enough :)
10:30.53nevcairielSML.MediaType.SOUND
10:30.54nevcairiel:P
10:31.00nevcairiel(which is "sound")
10:31.13sag_ich_nichtgoes for .mp3 and .wav or will i have to use different ones? :P
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10:31.24nevcairielall sounds
10:31.33sag_ich_nichtk
10:31.35sag_ich_nichtbecause
10:31.39sag_ich_nichthttp://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64snds.htm
10:32.01sag_ich_nichtspecifically: http://starfox64.baldninja.com/wav/peproll1.wav
10:32.10Undinei can't decide whether i like baggins or not :(
10:32.34voEttobaggings is so-so
10:32.39sag_ich_nicht<3 engbags
10:32.45voEttoonebag is kind of better, but its messy
10:33.01Undineis engbags still limited on how many sections there are?
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10:33.17voEttoonebag should have epix, rares and uncommons in diffirent sections
10:33.19sag_ich_nichti think so, but it's a ton.
10:33.29sag_ich_nichtengbags has a highlighting button for that
10:33.40sag_ich_nichtand you can make it sort BoE/BoP
10:33.55sag_ich_nichthttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3280/
10:33.56sag_ich_nicht<3
10:34.08voEttosounds good
10:35.12voEttodoes engbags open, when i press my bag-key (b)?
10:35.18voEttolike baggins dont
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10:35.46sag_ich_nichtengbags does
10:35.50voEttogood
10:36.37sag_ich_nichtit has nearly no sorting DB for 60+ items though
10:36.39Undineyou can make baggins do that
10:36.43sag_ich_nichtso you will have to categorize everything yourself
10:39.50voEttoundine: do what? :)
10:40.08Undinebaggins has a keybinding for open/close bags, so just set that to b
10:40.20voEttooh, at keybindings menu?
10:40.24Undineyup
10:40.29voEttoi must be blind as i have not seen that :p
10:40.42voEttooh well, installed engbags
10:40.47Undine;)
10:41.02Undinei remember how awed i was when i first found engbags
10:42.01Undinei did that too, never again
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10:43.43Undinehmm, might try and fix a niggly bug in auldlangsynefu
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11:05.18sag_ich_nichtokay
11:05.24sag_ich_nichtthis is probably a really dirty hack
11:08.34CIA-2203hegarol * r42953 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
11:08.34CIA-22AtlasLoot:
11:08.34CIA-22- Raid Loot Upgrade
11:12.03sag_ich_nichtwhat the hell
11:12.21sag_ich_nichtis WoW really being non confirmist and not accepting a final break as EOF?
11:13.46sag_ich_nicht-break +newline
11:13.46sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:13.47sag_ich_nichtokay
11:13.48sag_ich_nichtstrange
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11:19.47sag_ich_nichtAntiarc 1. giev the tank warning for Omen 2. could we get multi-level warnings?
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11:21.19lolinternetgrrr
11:21.21lolinternetback
11:21.41lolinterneti.e. what i mean is that if you go above 85%, play sound A, if you go to say 99% play sound B
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11:28.27Healthkk
11:29.08abbat_wAnd whisper warning
11:29.08abbat_wLike 'you got aggro' if mob which mt tanking change his target
11:30.03Wobin_well you won't have aggro right away
11:30.24cryogenwhat about mobs you change their target to use seconday attacks? :)
11:30.27cryogens/you/who/
11:34.26Fisker-OH LAWD
11:34.45Fisker-why are people asking if blizzard uses gmail to send out account suspension-mails out? :(
11:34.51vhaarrabbat_w: BanzaiAlert?
11:35.10winkillerlol
11:35.13vhaarrI don't see why actual aggro warnings need to be included in Omen, when other addons provide that already.
11:35.38abbat_wvharr, our mt using TitanPanel only because TitanTank exists only for titan
11:35.46abbat_wAnd no one addon do this
11:35.53HealthHow interesting.
11:35.57abbat_wOnly TitanTank
11:36.09abbat_wFor example
11:36.12vhaarrdoing what?
11:36.16vhaarryou speak in riddles
11:36.36abbat_wMT attach mob. I got aggro from this mob. MT send whisper to me 'you got aggro'
11:36.45vhaarryou don't need any whisperes
11:36.46vhaarr-e
11:36.49vhaarrjust get banzaialert
11:36.50abbat_wWhich mod do this?
11:37.02abbat_wI have banzaialert
11:37.05Gagorianit's just as hard to see a whisper as to follow Omen during a fight :P
11:37.08vhaarror aUF_Banzai/Pitbull_Banzai
11:37.10abbat_wBut you ask all ppl in raid to have banzaialert
11:37.16vhaarryeah
11:37.17abbat_wInstead one mod for MT
11:37.34vhaarreh
11:37.48vhaarrif you get aggro while fighting *1* mob, then you don't need any mods
11:37.54vhaarryou have him targetted and a ToT display
11:38.12abbat_wvharr, i just gove you example
11:38.19vhaarraggro alerts are only useful for multimob fights or pvp
11:38.30abbat_wMT need mod which send whispers if someone got aggro from this mod
11:38.36abbat_wTitanTank do this.
11:38.36vhaarrso your MT having some whisper thing makes no sense
11:38.50[Ammo]if the MT whisperspams me I /gremove him
11:38.51abbat_wNo sense for you
11:38.58vhaarryeah I would ignore the tank as well
11:39.03vhaarrthe french
11:39.05abbat_wwhisperspams?
11:39.07vhaarrthey're all sick
11:39.10[Ammo]yup
11:39.22abbat_wMaybe you need to learn how to hold aggro on MT? :)
11:39.27abbat_wAnd btw
11:39.37[Ammo]maybe the tank should not install retard addons
11:39.45abbat_wI think you die just after first whisper warning ;)
11:39.48abbat_wAmmo, sure
11:39.55[Ammo]no I don't die after the first warning
11:40.05simengabbat_w: there are lots of other addons many guilds require everyone to have, like ctra and such
11:40.07abbat_wYou told 'install banzai to every ppl in raid'. I told 'one mod for mt'
11:40.07[Ammo]and you obviously haven't done the first trash pull in SSC
11:40.14abbat_wDo you see difference?
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11:40.19[Ammo]no
11:40.28[Ammo]some people don't need an aggro alert
11:40.30abbat_wok then ;)
11:40.34[Ammo]try the first pull in SSC
11:40.38[Ammo]and tell your whisperspam tank to tank a bat
11:40.40[Ammo]good luk
11:40.41nevcairielwe only require omen on the tanks and dps, and ora/bigwigs on everyone .. thats all :P
11:41.43abbat_wIt's ok if all ppl in you guild setup required addons
11:42.02[Ammo]an aggro alert thing is not required
11:42.03simengif they don't and they die, then they have a problem :P
11:42.16[Ammo]have you ever raided properly abbat_w?
11:42.23abbat_wBut i think not all have this. And if 1-2 ppl died because they have aggro and don't see any notification - it's not ok
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11:42.52abbat_wAmmo, i don't run pve. But my guild do
11:43.12abbat_wAnd i have banzaialert, because i need aggro notification in pvp ;)
11:43.29[Ammo]advice the people who have aggro problems to install it
11:43.40[Ammo]if the don't and keep dying
11:43.43[Ammo]./gremove
11:43.45abbat_wI'll try ;)
11:44.02cryogenor just gkick anyone who actually needs such addons
11:44.12abbat_wBut after 2-3 days i understand what it's useless and i spent time for nothing
11:44.39abbat_wNo one want to install unknown addons, update it etc
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11:46.13abbat_wbtw, BigWigs have option to whisper notification about events ;)
11:46.45abbat_wI remember what my bigwigs send whispers to ppl while we raiding bwl/aq40
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11:47.04abbat_wLike 'you have plague' ;)
11:47.13cryogenthats nothing to do with aggro though
11:47.23cryogenand they are an optional module iirc
11:47.35abbat_wyep, optional. but usefull
11:47.49nevcairielif the player doenst notice his plague, he could wipe the full raid
11:47.56nevcairielif he doesnt notice his aggor, only he dies :P
11:48.14abbat_wnevcairiel ;)
11:48.33abbat_wif 1-2 ppl died in 25-man raid it's can be wipe ;)
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11:48.59de_RiNif people over aggro they will die anyway, so why would a whisper stop that?
11:49.16abbat_wNot anyway
11:49.31abbat_wAs a mage i always can use ice block
11:49.33abbat_wfor example
11:50.37Wobin_#char US Argent Dawn, Kerlihn
11:50.39ThraeBotWobin_: that is not the character you're looking for!
11:50.49cryogendoes that bot accept /msg queries?
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11:51.36cryogenguess not
11:51.40cryogen#char eu haomarush galencia
11:51.42ThraeBotcryogen: Galencia, Level 70 Undead Priest (11/0/50). 6941 HP; 8640 Mana; 420 Int; 241 Spi; 1107 Armour; +1.9% spell hit; +114 spell crit rating; 515 +spell dmg/heal.
11:51.59cryogenspiffy
11:52.10sbumhh
11:52.14sbushadow w/ crit?
11:52.23nevcairielsw:d self-pwnage
11:52.24nevcairiel:P
11:52.26cryogenhardly a lot
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11:52.39abbat_wchar eu warsong immoralist
11:52.41cryogenjust happens to be what i have on the crappy blues i have, not like im collecting it :)
11:52.44abbat_w#char eu warsong immoralist
11:52.45HealthWeak shadow damage!
11:52.47ThraeBotabbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (33/0/28). 9933 HP; 8831 Mana; 458 Int; 2016 Armour; +3.73% spell hit; +173 spell crit rating; 845 +spell dmg/heal.
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11:52.55Undine#char eu azjol-nerub undine
11:52.56sbumh okay ~100 is fine
11:52.57ThraeBotUndine: Undine, Level 70 Undead Priest (24/37/0). 6331 HP; 8715 Mana; 425 Int; 310 Spi; 1057 Armour; 49 mp5; +3.17% spell hit; +65 spell crit rating; 618 +spell dmg; 648 +heal.
11:53.07cryogenand how come it can work out spellhit% but not spell crit?
11:53.25sbumh - it doesnt account shadow damage
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11:53.39Health#cIt does
11:53.47Health#char eu stormrage Health
11:53.50ThraeBotHealth: Health, Level 70 Human Priest (8/0/53). 8871 HP; 8400 Mana; 404 Int; 3003 Armour; +3.25% spell hit; +47 spell crit rating; 700 +spell dmg/heal; +183 frost dmg (883); +305 shadow dmg (1005).
11:53.53sbuoh right
11:54.04Healthpvp gear!
11:54.15evllol
11:54.16evlhttp://images.fragbite.com/img.archives/eswc07_dag2/eswc6%20016.jpg
11:54.17cryogenwtb better gear!
11:54.20sbu#char eu khaz'goroth salubritas
11:54.22ThraeBotsbu: Salubritas, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/47). 8171 HP; 7665 Mana; 355 Int; 1203 Armour; 4 mp5; +8.01% spell hit; +101 spell crit rating; 777 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (956); +293 shadow dmg (1070).
11:54.22evlTauren size Kungen even IRL!
11:54.35sbuand he plays with absolutely NO addon
11:54.36sbu*sigh* :)
11:54.57cryogenisnt 8% kinda a lot of spellhit?
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11:55.05sbu~101
11:55.06purlit has been said that 101 is Telephony 101, which is a good read if you're unfamiliar with traditional TDM telephony.  You can download it at http://www.stromcarlson.com/docs/basics/NTtelephony101.pdf
11:55.12sbuyeah its a lot
11:55.15sbubut (!)
11:55.32Killmoreevl: who is Awake and Kungen on the picture ?
11:55.39sbuin <2% miss rate ;o
11:55.41HealthYou need total 16% spell hit.
11:55.41cryogenyou only need 5% for equal level mobs?
11:55.42evlAwake is second from left
11:55.46evlKungen is the BIG man in the middle
11:55.50Health16% for bosses.
11:55.55cryogensure, getting to that :)
11:56.13Gagoriancryogen: 3% for equal
11:56.24sbuyup.... but i think it just happens with your growing gear :o
11:56.31cryogenalrighty
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11:56.50sbu#char eu khaz'goroth smb
11:56.52ThraeBotsbu: Smb, Level 70 Undead Priest (23/38/0). 6561 HP; 9705 Mana; 491 Int; 328 Spi; 1296 Armour; 182 mp5; 52 +spell dmg; 1440 +heal.
11:56.56Gagorian#char eu al'akir Gagorian
11:56.57ThraeBotGagorian: Gagorian, Level 70 Orc Warlock (40/0/21). 7930 HP; 7510 Mana; 345 Int; 1343 Armour; +12.6% spell hit; +248 spell crit rating; 1047 +spell dmg; +111 frost dmg (1158); +162 shadow dmg (1209).
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11:57.00sbuthats me... need more mp5 :p
11:57.07Gagorian8% much you say? :P
11:57.14Killmore#char us ysera Killmore
11:57.14cryogenholy spec, brr
11:57.15Killmoreme
11:57.16ThraeBotKillmore: Killmore, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6341 HP; 9135 Mana; 453 Int; 363 Spi; 1367 Armour; 181 mp5; 90 +spell dmg; 1719 +heal.
11:57.19nevcairieli wonder if he sbu was poted when he logged out :P
11:57.31sbunevcairiel: see http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%27goroth&n=Smb :p
11:57.34Healthpot head!
11:57.41sbunot even spirit buffed ;o
11:57.48cryogenGagorian: nerf :)
11:57.53voEtto#char Kilrogg Voetto
11:58.08JoshBork2voEtto: EU or US
11:58.15voEttooh
11:58.25voEtto#char wu kilrogg voetto
11:58.28voEtto...
11:58.30cryogenwhat's a good pre raiding weapon for a caster that cant use swords?
11:58.37Gagoriancryogen: I get elemental shaman totem so 15.6% in bossfights. I hate resists!
11:58.37voEtto#char eu kilrogg voetto
11:58.38sbuGagorian: mh but you can spec +10%, right?
11:58.39ThraeBotvoEtto: Voetto, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/51/10). 10687 HP; 5148 Mana; 259 Str; 14446 Armour; 7 mp5; 712 AP; +6.69% melee crit; 36 +spell dmg/heal.
11:58.43cryogenGagorian: :D
11:58.43voEttoyay
11:58.52sbucryogen: uhm... that dagger from shattered halls
11:58.54Gagoriansbu: Yes, but only affliction.
11:58.58de_RiN#char eu aggramar klapp
11:59.00ThraeBotde_RiN: Klapp, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/48/13). 8554 HP; 6245 Mana; 308 Str; 291 Agi; 277 Int; 4025 Armour; 15 mp5; 876 AP; +15.46% melee crit; 20 +spell dmg/heal; +25 all resists (+10 nature).
11:59.03cryogensbu: was hoping you wouldnt say that, it's the one i have ^^
11:59.10evlPFT
11:59.11GagorianStill need for shadowbolt, so I can save the points in suppression
11:59.15evlthe bot doesn't show hit rating :/
11:59.29sbuhey 40/0/21 <3
11:59.59nevcairielmeh rejuv gem .. never got it back in BWL .. guess i would still wear it too :P
12:00.07GagorianRuin > UA imo. Hence the high crit
12:00.07sbumy 'borrowed' lock is now specced 36/4/21
12:00.15sbuand its really nice :o
12:00.33GagorianI used to be 37/3/21 but I noticed I don't need any HP really
12:01.00sbuhmyeah, problem is you have to gather both, spelldmg AND lots of crit
12:01.16GagorianEnd-game gear is good for that though
12:01.26GagorianRuin allow for way more balanced gear selection than UA
12:01.31sbumh okay, i'm pre-karazhan at the moment ;o
12:01.52sbubut alt-run tomorrow, wtb t4 ;)
12:01.53Gagoriankek :)
12:02.20Gagorianshould get out frist t6 next week
12:02.28sbu*sigh* :p
12:02.34voEttohyjal?
12:02.37Gagorianyar
12:03.17voEttotoo bad prot paladins are not invited for 25-man raids :(
12:03.17GagorianWe're doing BT and Hyjal at the same time. I bet Hyjal bosses will drop t6 before BT.
12:03.27Healthhttp://fragbite.com/?imgID=14828 - same image with comments
12:03.30GagorianvoEtto: We use a prot paladin :p
12:03.34voEttoreally?
12:03.36sbuneed to kill morogrim today... *sigh* been there for 2 days - not getting past 2nd murloc phase...
12:03.44voEttoi tought only warriors are good for tankings those
12:03.55voEttoarmory profile of him/her, now! :D
12:04.17Gagorianhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Rhassy
12:04.27voEttothx
12:04.34GagorianHasn't played in a while, but still
12:05.08GagorianSeems like PvP gear mayhaps
12:05.30voEttoyeah
12:05.43voEttobut nice to know that there is some hope for me too :)
12:05.51sbu*sigh* we need more shadow priests :/
12:05.56voEttowe too
12:05.58voEttoand wlocks
12:06.15GagorianObviously not suitable for every encounter but has its uses :)
12:06.28sbuits 1 (ONE) at the moment... the other quit yesterday because its no fun for him to deal damage, he wants to play healer...
12:06.44sbuand i dont want to re-specc ;o
12:07.01voEttoyeah
12:07.13voEttoand i can wear my healing gear when im not needed :)
12:08.01Gagoriansbu: Heh, our raid yesterday we had 3 shadow priests and 5 warlocks :P
12:08.09sbumeh ;o
12:08.21sbuno problems with locks, its 3-5 every time...
12:09.16CIA-2203gandharva * r42954 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:
12:09.16CIA-22ThreatToKTM:
12:09.16CIA-22- trimmed tooltip text
12:09.16CIA-22- small cosmetic change to tooltip text
12:09.24abbat_wevl, are you here?
12:10.19abbat_wGuys, someone use eePanels? For what eePanels have option 'intercept mouse clicks'?
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12:12.56Fisker-this is awesome
12:13.01Fisker-tar is reporting no space available
12:13.02harldephino.o
12:13.11Fisker-df says i have 99% disk space available
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12:15.36CIA-2203nevcairiel * r42955 10/branches/ (Bartender2_Pagemaster/ Bartender3/): .Bartender3: cleanup branch
12:15.39bindergnutar?
12:15.58MikkFisker-: Try creating a big file and running tar again
12:15.58sbuFisker-: permissions?
12:16.07binderno space available
12:16.09binderhmm
12:16.18CIA-2203nevcairiel * r42956 10/branches/Bartender4/: Bartender4: clean branch ( i hope i have more time for this :P)
12:16.19binderbeen a while since I had that problem
12:16.28binderI ran out of inodes once
12:16.31abbat_w=)
12:16.32Fisker-Mikk how? :P
12:16.33binderon a cvs disk
12:16.45MikkFisker-: Just copy some big file.
12:16.47abbat_wnevcairiel! can i add smallest wish to bt4? :)
12:16.57Fisker-well then i'm already making one :P
12:17.06abbat_wPlease, add option to switch between AnyUp and AnyDown ;)
12:17.50abbat_wIf you add this, most old nurfed and discord users say 'thanks' for you
12:17.56Fisker-well tar isn\t whining now
12:18.00Fisker-so i guess i\m good
12:18.04abbat_wBecause these 2 mods have 'anydown' by default
12:18.09MikkFisker-: The reason is, some apps only measure disk space as 32-bit numbers. 32 bits can only hold numbers up to 4 gig. Then they wrap. So if you have 4.001 or 8.001 or 12.0001 etc gigs free, they'll think the disk is full.
12:18.12CIA-2203adirelle * r42957 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: hopefully fixed reminder.
12:18.46Fisker-funny :P
12:18.52Fisker-stupid linux again!
12:18.57MikkNaw, stupid apps.
12:19.02nevcairielsomeone should tell them about int64
12:19.02Fisker-:(
12:19.05nevcairiel:P
12:19.43Fisker-i'm cruise control for awesome
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12:19.47MikkAlso it wouldn't surprise me if some apps realized that this was a problem, so they take the two 32-bit results and rotate them around a bit to create one 32-bit number with less precision
12:19.47Fisker-I'm installing gentoo
12:19.50Fisker-for the first time :o
12:20.01Fisker-well second time already :P
12:20.06MikkAnd then they'd go "Bah, disks will never go 256 gigs in size"
12:20.06Fisker-already screwed it up last time
12:20.17MikkAnd then you'd have the problem with 256.00001 and 512.0001 etc :P
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12:20.33kenlyricgentoo is not what I'd call ground-floor linux :)
12:20.52nevcairielif you stick to the install handbook, its pretty straight forward to install tho
12:20.56Fisker-i'm ready to mentally rape myself a lot of times this weekend
12:20.56nevcairieljust copy paste the commands
12:21.03kenlyrici miss the old stage 1 installs
12:21.05Fisker-well nevcairiel problem being i have to do the stage install
12:21.11Fisker-as i have no physical access whatsoever
12:21.18Fisker-And i have to do it within a rescue system
12:21.26nevcairieli did that once
12:21.30nevcairielwas pretty much the same
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12:21.48Fisker-yeah, and i'm used to putting in a disc, pressing next all the time anyways :P
12:22.28Fisker-:O
12:22.36Fisker-now my bash got colour
12:23.44Fisker-uh
12:23.47Fisker-i think i'm a step ahead :P
12:24.08Fisker-guide wants me to edit mnt/gentoo but that's gone now :o
12:24.17nevcairieldid you chroot already?
12:24.31Fisker-yeah i think sp
12:24.32Fisker-so
12:24.34kenlyricuh oh
12:24.38Fisker-said i was anyways :P
12:24.58nevcairielwell if your bash got color, you did change to the gentoo bash :P
12:26.43Fisker-yeah got emerge now :o
12:26.53Fisker-this is where it takes hours right?
12:27.12kenlyrichours if you're lucky.
12:27.37Fisker-yay then i have time to go down and get some dinner :P
12:28.15winkillerhehe, WAU is awesome. first app to show the crash-screen and still continue it's work flawlessly :P
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12:30.39HealthMy gentoo box is working fine. 670 days uptime.
12:30.50HealthActually where this message is sent from!
12:30.53CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r42958 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBars.lua Buttons.lua Core.lua Options.lua): Bartender4: assorted changes from the last weeks
12:31.00HealthHELLO FROM GENTOO! CAN YOU HEAR ME?
12:31.41eXemplarno
12:32.06Fisker-oh hi
12:32.15Fisker-ouch @ use flags :(
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12:32.28nevcairieldont set them noew
12:32.34nevcairielalways to emerge --pretend
12:32.39nevcairieland configure the ones you use then :P
12:32.51trhhidiho
12:33.13Fisker-i have no time for pretending!
12:33.46Fisker-so i don't have to do any of the USE flags right now for installation?
12:34.44nevcairieli always checked with --pretend which flags the current packages use, and configure them on a case-by-case basis later on
12:34.48nevcairieli only set stuff i know i need
12:34.50nevcairiellike -X
12:34.52nevcairielfor my servers :P
12:35.22kenlyricyou can always emerge everything again :)
12:35.33nevcairielyeah there is --newuse now .)
12:35.44kenlyricsweet
12:35.55Fisker-i think i'll just go with standards then :P
12:35.59alextnevcairiel: workin on bartender4 eh?
12:36.02Fisker-until i know what i'm doing
12:36.12nevcairieli generally do emerge -vuDNa world once a week
12:36.15nevcairielthat works good
12:36.17alextdidnt even know it existed thats awsome, any sort of public feature list over Bartender3?
12:37.11nevcairielit doesnt even support the basic actionbar features :P
12:37.16Fisker-i like how i copy my timezone to the timezone directory
12:37.19Fisker-and it figures stuff out
12:37.35alext!
12:37.41Fisker-indeed
12:37.41alexthey gota start somewhere i guess
12:38.05alextonly thing I would request for Bartender is a feature where you can mouseover an actionbar "button" and hit a key to automatically set a keybind
12:38.11alextotherwise its perfect as it is imo
12:38.14alext;]
12:39.27flexomalext: I second that keybinding method ^^
12:39.29de_RiNOoh second that, I switched from bongos to bartender. Bongos had some weird stuff I could not grasp. But the keybinding feature was awesome
12:39.34de_RiNthird that*
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12:40.47kenlyricmeh, you lazy sobs
12:41.10Josh_Borkeyou only have to set your keybinds once
12:41.32CIA-2203trh * r42959 10VanasKoS/changelog.txt: VanasKoS: changelog updated
12:41.33kenlyricas long as it uses a default profile, I don't really care if it sprouts monkey wings
12:41.52binderI wish bartender would afk bot my alts in alterac valley for me
12:42.12Fisker-I wish bartender would kill my enemies and make me invulnerable
12:42.21kenlyricyou need to upgrae
12:42.24kenlyric+d
12:42.38binderit's got the autobot feature now?
12:42.45harldephinwhy should i switch from bongos to bartender?
12:43.06binderis bongo's ace?
12:43.10Fisker-because i know where you live
12:43.29kenlyrici switched because of default profiles.
12:43.38Fisker-how long does it take to compile a kernel? :P
12:43.42Josh_Borkebinder: no
12:43.45Josh_BorkeFisker-: depends
12:43.53Fisker-(using genkernel not to screw stuff up, so compiling it all O_o)
12:44.01Josh_Borkeit'll take a little while
12:44.07binderbongo's was lagging my friend and he switched to bt3 and it's been much better for him
12:44.08harldephinbinder: no.
12:44.12binderwell
12:44.16binderthere's another reason
12:44.21harldephinmoo
12:44.23kenlyricwith many alts and an OCD about their UI all looking the same, default profiles are pretty much the #1 feature i enjoy in ace mods.
12:44.31de_RiNbongos had problems with my forms for druid
12:44.45binderI use bartender on my druid just fine
12:44.58binderwell actually
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12:45.03harldephinmy bongos has default profiles as well, because i forced it to do so
12:45.26striperyou don't need to force BT3 :)
12:45.27harldephinactally, it's only one default profiles
12:45.28binderI found it's easier to configure stances/forms with bartender
12:45.31harldephinnarf, profile
12:45.46harldephini only stance using macros
12:45.48binderrogue warrior druid
12:47.48alextin reference to the keybinds, not lazy at all
12:47.56alextbut if you can tell me how to set a keybind on my petbar i would love to know
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12:48.33striperalext: good point!
12:49.09nevcairielbt4 will eventually rebuild the petbar
12:49.14nevcairieland not use the builtin
12:49.16alextah nice ;]
12:49.21abbat_wnice
12:49.29alextthats my only problem, I would love to set a keybind on my petbar but i dont think i can do that with BT3
12:49.46abbat_wnevcairiel, are bt4 will have option to switch between anyup/anydown actions? :)
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12:50.04kenlyricalext: sure you can
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12:50.23kenlyricI use to have "e" bound to pet attack.
12:51.05alextwell pet attack is listed in keybinds
12:51.08alexti got that bound fine
12:51.15kenlyricah.
12:51.17alextI would like to bind the first petbar button slot
12:51.31striperdoes anyone know if saroz is still looking at pet frames in sraidframes?
12:51.36kenlyricyou're right, i'm dumb
12:51.38alexteach pet that I use, I put the spell I want to manually control in the first petbar slot
12:51.45alextthen bind it to a mouse button
12:51.50striperhe said he wanted to take a look at it... but never came back to say what he saw :)
12:51.58CIA-2203daviesh * r42960 10AtlasLoot/Constants/ (constants.en.lua constants.fr.lua):
12:51.58CIA-22AtlasLoot:
12:51.58CIA-22- Added a 'Season 1' translation to the french file and cleared out duplicate entries in the english file
12:52.19evlGive me an A!
12:53.22Fisker-get out
12:54.08kenlyricgrowl needs an AI adjustment
12:54.17kenlyricit shouldn't growl at mobs running away
12:55.38bindican anyone tell me where the file is that remembers the bank contents of other chars in oneview?
12:56.11bindicause atm according that i have like all lvl 60 gear in my main char when i check from my bank
12:56.25Punkie`WTF/ACCOUNTNAME/SavedVariables/OneBank.lua
12:56.29bindithanks
12:56.43bindiany clue why its not updating instead?
12:56.58Punkie`i get weird stuff with OneBank sometimes too
12:57.02Punkie`no icons for instance
12:57.16nevcairielmy first bag sometimes disappears in oneview
12:57.22nevcairielaka, the main bank content, not the bag
12:57.33Punkie`just delete the .lua and .bak and visit your bank/open your bags
12:57.46nevcairielit works when i visit the bank right away
12:57.52nevcairielbut its still stupid
12:58.20bindithe lua doesn't have much content tbh :|
12:58.36bindiaha
12:58.40bindiits oneview.lua
13:00.08Wobin_hm, what's a good comparison mod?
13:00.29Wobin_equipcompare that is
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13:07.32CIA-2203damjau * r42961 10beql/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals
13:09.46kenlyricdrdamage no like hunter
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13:15.55Fisker-routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.0.1" )
13:16.02Fisker-anyone know what that is for? :P
13:16.26steev64set your default route
13:16.31steev64on eth0
13:16.42Fisker-so that's like my gateway or what?
13:16.43steev64lern2gentoo n00b :-P
13:16.47Fisker-:<
13:16.50steev64yes
13:16.54steev64that is your default gateway
13:17.02Fisker-now if only i knew that :P
13:17.12steev64who put it in there?
13:17.12Fisker-isn't that usually my broadcast as well?
13:17.16Fisker-i did
13:17.27steev64you put it in without knowing what it was?
13:17.48Fisker-well it's required :P
13:17.51steev64and, no, its not usually your broadcast as well
13:18.02steev64are you not running a dhcp server?
13:18.10Fisker-yeah
13:18.17Fisker-exactly :P
13:18.19steev64then why is it required?
13:18.28HealthLook, it's penis-steev.
13:18.46Fisker-To enter your own IP address, netmask and gateway, you need to set both config_eth0 and routes_eth0:
13:18.51Fisker-according to the gentoo guide
13:18.53steev64ahh
13:18.59steev64i've never read the guide :)
13:19.16Fisker-and for some reason i only got ipv6 traceroute_
13:19.17Fisker-?
13:19.22harldephinlol
13:19.26kenlyricthe guide is frequently dumb
13:19.36steev64i'd suggest just reading net.example
13:19.43kenlyricthey need to wikify that shit so you can fix it when you see errors.
13:19.46steev64explains in better detail the options
13:20.05steev64kenlyric: it would be nice, but infra are bitches
13:20.15kenlyricdumb bitches
13:20.36kenlyricthough, it's a lot better than it was 3 years ago.
13:20.40steev64*shrug* they have to take care of the hardware not me
13:21.07kenlyrici thought you were talking about the doc people
13:21.23steev64no
13:21.43steev64infrastructre control all access and software installations :)
13:22.04steev64docs peeps just check the xml files into the docs cvs
13:22.19kenlyricbah! wiki!
13:22.26steev64i agree!
13:22.37steev64but then you get those crazy ricers!
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13:22.41kenlyriccool, i just murdered wow by jumping.
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13:23.17kenlyricThe memory could not be "written".
13:23.39kenlyriclol at dumbells who don't know what quote marks mean.
13:23.48Wobin_You obviously advanced Acrobatics past 255
13:32.11Fisker-hmm
13:32.17Fisker-my raid devices doesn't exist :o
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13:33.06Josh_Borkedon't you mean
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13:35.59Fisker-well i got no /dev/md(x)
13:36.14Fisker-and grub won't emerge because it can't mount my boot partition
13:36.38nevcairielyou cannot boot from a raid drive
13:36.39nevcairieliirc
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13:37.55Fisker-Then there probably shouldn't be a raid install guide :P
13:38.09binderyou boot off a floppy in linux IIRC
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13:38.35Fisker-O_o?
13:38.41binderI never did the whole linux raid thing just use netbsd
13:39.26harldephinoO
13:39.40binderman I haven't messed with a *bsd machine a long time
13:40.13binderfreebsd used to be easier to use because of /usr/ports
13:40.31Josh_Borkewhy are you software raiding? :-(
13:40.57bindermaybe performace < fault tolerance
13:42.16alextI am sure some of you have done Gruul before right?
13:42.20alextgot a random question
13:42.30harldephinGruul-what?
13:42.40alextGruul in Gruul's lair
13:42.43Josh_Borkewhat's a gruul?
13:42.45alextraid boss
13:42.49Josh_Borkeis that like drool?
13:42.50harldephindunno. never heard of it
13:42.52alextyes
13:43.01Mikkjust ask the question :P
13:43.11alextwell when he does ground slam and shatter
13:43.22alextwhy the hell does my PC lag to shit even though its a damn good PC
13:43.23harldephinimagine there was a software somewhere and you didn't know about it
13:43.27alextgraphics or addon issue?
13:43.46alexti go from 100fps
13:43.48alextto 5fps
13:43.57Mikkif i have to guess, i'd say graphics, due to the bind animation around everyone's feet
13:43.57Ky|Workdisable all mods and what happens?
13:44.10harldephin+see
13:44.21alextI guess I can try that, but I have gotten used to relying on those addons ;X
13:44.29striperwut? raiding naked you ask for?
13:44.51Mikktry dumping spell detail
13:44.58Mikkin the video opts
13:45.12Mikk</randomidea>
13:45.16Droolioi had same issue in Thaddius event. is this ground slam where lots of people receiving damage at the same time?
13:45.29Mikkwell, yes and no. they don't receive damage until later.
13:45.48Mikkthey run around building up debuffs based on how close they are to others for a while
13:45.53Mikki'm assuming that's when it's laggy
13:46.18Drooliohmmm
13:46.21harldephin"yes and no" always results in "no"
13:46.21Mikk(exactly when you DONT want it to be laggy)
13:46.58Mikkyaknow... be kinda cool with an addon that dumps graphics detail when your fps drops
13:46.59Droolioat the time i had these Thaddius issues i put it down to the network traffic generated by the hidden addon message api...
13:47.44alextyah
13:47.45harldephinit's the aliens.. they wanna dominate all WoW players
13:47.45Droolioi even did Thaddius without a single addon and ruled out graphics. i think it was some unique thing maybe with my onboard network
13:47.54alexti turned down all the graphics settings that i could without restarting
13:48.04alextI run a 8800GTS nvidia vid card with 384mb ram
13:48.09alextso its pretty beefy
13:48.14harldephinoO
13:48.25Drooliobut at the time i wrote a prog to show the hidden addon messages and they were very very spammy during Thaddius second phase...
13:48.30RogueShadowwhat about cpu
13:48.38alextcore 2 duo E6600
13:48.46alext2gb DDR2-800
13:49.05alextyah i hope its graphics to be honest
13:49.11alextnext time i go in there, i am turning it all down to low
13:49.15harldephinsame here, except i'm on 7950gt sli and haven't got those issues yet
13:49.18alextI REALLY hope its not an addon
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13:49.31Mikkwell, if it's an addon, it's a good thing you found it :P
13:49.33Droolioi doubt it's an addon nope
13:49.39alextits bad too because you know after the ground slam, if your not positioned, you only got a few seconds to get away from everyone
13:49.45alextwhich is almost impossible when your at 5 fps ;]
13:49.55Drooliobut you can't stop the hidden addon messages arriving from other raid members
13:50.11alexti dont run sw_stats but the rest of the raid does
13:50.18Mikki have to admit that i get kinda laggy during shatters building up too
13:50.20alextwas thinkin maybe its addon channel spam with that
13:50.39Mikki always assumed it's all the spells happenign around everyone's feet
13:50.42alextMikk: does it get bad to the point where you get like 5fps tho and can barely move?
13:50.47Droolioyou'd be surprised at how much spam the addon messages can build up in certain events
13:50.56Mikkalext: not quite so bad
13:51.27Droolioit's silly tho, Blizzard should allow you to register prefixes you want to listen to. coz otherwise you have no choice to get your bandwidth eaten up by guild and raid members
13:51.27Mikkbut i tend to run with graphics tuned down a bit
13:51.33alextthe thing that makes me think it MIGHT be an addon is...I am 100% fine in 5-mans and 10-mans
13:51.43harldephini don't remember having many add-ons that'd be able to produce add-on spam in such a situation
13:51.44alextbut 25-mans, I tend to get some slight lag during combat only
13:51.48Mikkyer, but there's so mcuh more happening on-screen in 25mans too
13:51.50alexteven will spell effects turned to low
13:52.09alextwell going to play around with it, was just seeing if anyone else had the same issues
13:52.10Mikkdo you have your combatlog displaying on-screen?
13:52.15alextyeah i do actually
13:52.19alextthink that might be a part of it?
13:52.19harldephinpft
13:52.24Mikkit most certainly might
13:52.34Mikkshoving thousands of messages into a scroll window will lag you to hell
13:52.41Mikkdoubly so if it's actually showing
13:52.41alextI use simplecombatlog and break it out to the side of my normal chat window
13:52.45alextgood tip
13:52.48harldephini never have a combat log anywhere
13:52.59alextI might just get rid of the combatlog
13:53.04alextI never used to use it
13:53.07Mikki have combat events for me personally in a combatlog window. but it's not showing by default.
13:53.20alextyah I can just put it back with the others but not select that tab
13:53.23alextgood idea thanks alot
13:53.46harldephinyea
13:55.10alextI know this is more of an ace channel but you guys are more sane than people in #wow, at least on efnet
13:55.17alexthave not bothered to check #wow on freenode
13:56.19Fisker-stupid me
13:56.30Fisker-when copy/pasting do it properly
13:59.11sbuckknight: no more parrot updates? :o
13:59.12Fisker-pretty stupid to get to the end of the gentoo install and find out you copy/pasted "# mount /dev/md1 /mnt/gentoo/boot"
13:59.21Josh_Borkegj
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14:02.35Fisker-thanks Josh_Borke :P
14:02.54V^Where can I find some documentation on the "Itemvalue" mod by Thexod
14:03.06V^I just cant work out its real purpose or how to use it D:
14:03.15V^But it looks interesting!!
14:03.21Josh_BorkeFisker-: anytime
14:03.52Fisker-atleast i could just exit chroot and remount it :P
14:04.29Fisker-so still hanging on my second try, albeit very losely :P
14:04.58Fisker-btw is there anything in configuring kernel modules_
14:04.59Fisker-?
14:07.35V^What gems should my rogue have whilst she levels from 60-70? :P
14:07.37V^Agi or AP?
14:08.17Mikkwhat spec?
14:08.21V^Combat
14:08.38MikkWell.. AP and +hit is more damage for combat.
14:08.48MikkThen again, agi means dodge also, which is nice for solo
14:09.17V^So what spec is agi good for
14:09.17MikkThen again you'll prolly just want to use green cheap gems so it's not like it's going to make a major difference either way
14:09.20V^Daggers?
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14:09.40MikkAgi means a bit more +crit which is better for daggers
14:10.05V^But combat is superior for arena anyway isnt it
14:10.14V^But solo more like 30/0/31?
14:10.34V^PvP I mean
14:10.51MikkYeah for arena you want to pretend to be a warrior
14:11.03V^But then Id want to get stam gems wouldnt I
14:11.07MikkYes
14:11.38V^So I reckon I'll make her combat swords or fists and have a stam set, and then an AP set :<
14:11.45V^Sound good Mikk!!?
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14:11.52MikkYes
14:12.02V^awwwright
14:12.18MikkCombat = win in PvE also
14:12.32MikkSo you're good for arenas and PvE, but not so much for BGs
14:12.46V^But they mean nothing :P
14:13.32MikkHaving said that, you can go combat in BGs also, but then you have to pretend to be a warrior and have a healer nearby :P
14:13.45jmeoh neat
14:13.47jmehttp://www.wowjutsu.com/us/
14:13.51V^aye
14:14.03jmeranks guild endgame progression based on armory gear scans
14:14.50Mikkhah, cool
14:15.12HealthOnlu US?
14:15.21Healtheu > us
14:15.26Healthin progression
14:16.19Health8 of top 10 guilds are EU
14:16.38CIA-2203nekromant * r42962 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua:
14:16.38CIA-22Babble-2.2:
14:16.38CIA-22- Added spanish "Axe Vendor" translation
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14:19.06stripereu has a higher unemployment rate
14:19.42Fisker-NO U
14:20.05Fisker-But that might be because people can actually survive if they're unemployed
14:20.08HealthMany EU contries pay for people to get an education rather than charging too!
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14:23.34alextOmen question...have the issues regarding Omen sending threat to KTM and KTM flagging it as "wrong client" or whatever that issue was....has it been resolved?
14:23.51alextbleh maybe I should just look at the changelog
14:24.02SarozIn 2.2.0 the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events now have the name and rank of the spell as arg2 and arg3.
14:24.04SarozHOLY SMOKES BATMAN
14:24.12Wobin_O.O
14:24.22Fisker-what's ssh server in portage named?
14:24.29[Ammo]sshd
14:24.30[Ammo]I bet
14:24.38Fisker-no!
14:24.43[Ammo]then you FAIL
14:25.02Fisker-:(
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14:25.03nevcairielsshd is installed by default
14:25.37Fisker-well i gotta make sure it's configured properly :P
14:25.46Fisker-or my trip ends very quickly
14:25.55Sarozcan someone make slouken add "target" as the 3rd arg to UNIT_SPELLCAST_*
14:26.00Sarozplease, someone in the US
14:26.05nevcairielwell type rc-update add sshd default
14:26.07Saroz4th, even
14:26.08nevcairieland see what happens :P
14:26.20[Ammo]unit_spellcast_sent already has a target doesn tit
14:26.22Fisker-i found sshd before that :P
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14:26.34Fisker-so it's compiling now
14:26.43Saroznope [Ammo], would be awesome if it had
14:26.49Sarozno need for heal tracking comm libs
14:26.50Fisker-btw gentoo is somewhat faster when not compiling KDE :D
14:26.52nevcairielspellcast_sent has a target
14:26.55nevcairielbut its only for player
14:26.57Sarozye
14:26.59Sarozbingo
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14:27.16striperSaroz: did you have a look at pet frames in sraidframes?
14:27.16durcynFisker-: net-misc/openssh
14:27.24Sarozstriper, too complicated atm.
14:27.26HealthSo. Conlusion. Give Slouken a blow job.
14:27.28striperdamn
14:27.36striperthx for looking
14:27.52Sarozsomeone suggest to slouken please, he might do it if he is aleady looking at the event
14:28.02nevcairieli dont think he wants to
14:28.14Sarozless comm spam :)
14:28.43[Ammo]more abusage in pvp
14:28.47[Ammo]it's not gonna happen
14:28.48Sarozhow so?
14:29.05[Ammo]zomg big fireball of dewm coming of on that person
14:29.07[Ammo]*shield*
14:29.17Sarozwell you can already check that now though
14:29.27[Ammo]no you can't
14:29.36Sarozyes you can, if they have the person targetted
14:29.39[Ammo]no you can't
14:29.44Saroz...
14:29.51HealthCute. Catfight!
14:29.52Sarozraid1 is casting fireball
14:29.52[Ammo]you can only do it if they're stupid enough to keep the person targetted
14:30.03[Ammo]mouseover casting
14:30.03Sarozraid1 is casting fireball -- check raid1target
14:30.04[Ammo]etc etc
14:30.06Sarozindeed
14:30.12[Ammo]so you can';t
14:30.14[Ammo]not reliably
14:30.27Sarozand that's the problem, but you can if they dont use click casting
14:30.31Sarozso it's still "meh"
14:30.37[Ammo]nope you can't
14:30.45[Ammo]in 2v2, focus one of the 2
14:30.51[Ammo]there both targets targetted
14:30.55[Ammo]focus casting with a modifier key
14:30.57[Ammo]no way to detect it
14:31.03Saroztrue
14:31.26Fisker-haha
14:31.29Fisker-here goes nothing i can see
14:31.51Fisker-If it works i'm gonna laugh
14:32.15Thrae[Ammo]: I could have sworn in the API you could check raid1focus, raid1focus, etc.
14:32.20Fisker-atleast putty is saying connection refused atm
14:32.24Fisker-so something must've worked :o
14:32.44MikkThrae: Your opponents aren't in your raid
14:32.47Josh_Borkeopen it on your firewall
14:33.10Fisker-oh wait that was apparently just the old system shutting down then QQ
14:33.11Saroztargetfocus :)
14:33.23Fisker-how could it use like a minute on shutting down
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14:33.47Saroz[Ammo], well just make it only return friendly players.. solved
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14:34.14TyrelHey, is there any way to use RegisterChatCommand without AceDB adding its profile and standby options?
14:35.32Fisker-so Josh_Borke
14:35.36Fisker-gentoo's average startup time? :P
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14:35.46Josh_Borkehell if i know
14:35.48HealthI didn't restart my gentoo box for 670 days, so I dunno!
14:35.50Josh_Borkei haven't used gentoo in years
14:35.57jmewhat does startup time matter if the point is to keep it running as long as possible?
14:35.59Josh_Borkehealth:  do you not believe in security updates?
14:36.07vhaarrTyrel: not if your mod mixes in AceDB
14:36.11[Ammo]Thrae: I meant no way to detect it upon cast.
14:36.12vhaarrTyrel: but just nil them
14:36.20HealthJosh_Borke: No! I do updates to all but the kernel!
14:36.23vhaarrTyrel: options.args.profile = nil or whatever
14:36.34vhaarrTyrel: you can do that in OnInit
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14:37.30Tyrelvhaarr, OnInit?
14:37.54[Ammo]youraddon:OnInitialize()
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14:39.56ravagernlWhat's up with simpleselfrebuff
14:40.08ravagernlI can't choose any aspect/tracking
14:40.27HealthIt's still in the works r-tard
14:41.11ravagernlYou don't have to call anyone a retard for a question like that
14:41.24HealthI did not, r-tard > retard
14:41.29HealthIn coolness.
14:41.40trhravagernl: using the current files.wowace.com version?
14:41.41Mikk~lart Health
14:41.41purlnabs the moon and broadsides Health with the sea of tranquility
14:41.52HealthOuch.
14:41.57[Ammo]hey Mikk, did you fix the oRA2 stuck on mouse yet?
14:41.57ravagernltrh: yeah
14:42.02[Ammo]or did i just not skim through the logs well enough
14:42.03ravagernl~seen Adirelle
14:42.05purladirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 20m 32s ago, saying: 'that part is quite tricky'.
14:42.05Mikk[Ammo]: yus, last night
14:42.09trhravagernl: outside of shattrath? =)
14:42.09[Ammo]ah nice
14:42.18[Ammo]I got the modulepack stuff for vio almost working
14:42.20ravagernltrh: yes, im currently in orgrimmar
14:42.21Mikkstill wanna centralize handling for those types of frames though :S
14:42.25[Ammo]needs some locale tweakage
14:42.26trhravagernl: get outside
14:42.27Tyrelvhaarr: Ah. Didn't think it'd work to nil them since the table had already been used. But appearently it did. thx :P
14:42.43[Ammo]Mikk: well MT and PT need some serious love first
14:42.47ravagernlahhh, that way
14:42.57[Ammo]maybe I'll also fix up the shared stuff then
14:43.02[dRaCo]uhm... Cartographer_Quests\addon.lua:1279: attempt to index local 'value' (a nil value)
14:43.05[Ammo]I think I can cut down mem usage for MT and PT by half or so
14:43.15MikkOwie :P
14:43.18[Ammo]yeah
14:43.25[Ammo]they are essentiale a copy paste job
14:43.32[Ammo]because people *needed* player targets
14:43.47[Ammo]I hate users
14:43.51Mikkhaha
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14:45.10MikkYaknow... I was thinking... If you want to do semi-LoD, isn't all you need really to stick your entire file inside a function and call the function once when you want to instantiate it?
14:45.19MikkThis is just from a "hmm wonder if" point of view
14:45.26MikkNot really thinking of doing anything with the theory
14:46.20ravagernlso does ssr have a keybinding?
14:46.28[Ammo]hehe bigass func then
14:46.32[Ammo]even in mem
14:46.37[Ammo]no real saving there
14:47.02MikkNah I know
14:47.05[Ammo]although arguably the instantiated module object is larger
14:47.24MikkBut you get most of the gain by NOT initing stuff until OnEnable
14:47.43MikkSo tbh just code properly = 95% of the gain
14:47.53ravagernl:o SimpleSelfRebuff is using mousewheel?
14:47.58trhyes
14:48.04ravagernlawesome
14:48.18[Ammo]I'm finally flying fast yay
14:48.19ravagernlI've never expected to get an ace'd autobuff
14:48.28[Ammo]gotta love bullying a guildmate into giving you 2500g
14:48.30MikkCorkFu autobuffs just fine
14:48.46[Ammo]threatened to leave him on the highway when we were going to the guild BBQ end of the month
14:48.47MikkYou just gotta put "/click CorkFuFrame" in a macro and bind it to a key
14:48.50trhravagernl: best thing is: it doesn't buff trueshot aura over and over if you receive it from another hunter
14:48.51Mikk[Ammo]: rofl
14:48.56nevcairiellol ammo
14:49.03[Ammo]he expects the cash back
14:49.09[Ammo]but in the meantime I'm finally zoooming around
14:49.50ravagernlmikk: but corkfu doesn't have mousewheel scrolling ;)
14:49.58MikkMhm
14:50.04MikkAnd CorkFu is a bit st00pid when it fails to buff someone too
14:50.07MikkJust keeps trying over and over :S
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14:54.19Mikk[Ammo]: Anyway, I was basically thinking frame = core:GimmeAMovableFrameWithTitle("Title text", WhereToCopyInSomeAceOptions, WhereToStoreConfig)
14:54.34MikkThat'd nuke several hundred lines from 4 (or more?) modules
14:55.56MikkAnd seeing as how everything's a copynpaste job, it wouldn't even lose the old configs :P
14:56.58Mikk(And still allow one module to have several windows if that's ever required in the future)
14:57.16steev64woot
14:57.52trhbtw: is there a blizzard function to get the default coloring of a class?
14:57.59Mikkno, but a table
14:58.25vhaarrRAID_CLASS_COLORS, iirc
14:58.33trhthanks :)
14:58.43[Ammo]Mikk: I agree
14:58.47[Ammo]for the draggable content frame
14:58.50[Ammo]make it so or something
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15:00.57Mikkpurl, framexml $1 is http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/$1
15:00.58purlokay, Mikk
15:01.06Mikkframexml Fonts.xml
15:01.10Mikkframexml Fonts.xml
15:01.11Mikksigh
15:01.16Mikk~framexml Fonts.xml
15:01.17purlhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/Fonts.xml
15:01.29Mikk^ that's where RAID_CLASS_COLORS is deffed
15:02.06Fisker-oh QQ Josh_Borke it didn't work
15:02.27Fisker-oh well third times the charm then
15:02.37Josh_Borkethird time IS the charm
15:05.15trhMikk: :)
15:06.28durcyn~seen Roartindon
15:06.31purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-68-208.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 59m 58s ago, saying: '30 minutes....... ouch'.
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15:15.03Punkie`~framexml boobies.xml
15:15.04purlhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/boobies.xml
15:16.15trhno boobies :(
15:16.35Punkie`purl said so :(
15:16.48RogueShadow~seen sanity
15:16.50purlsanity <i=Anonymou@cpc2-seve10-0-0-cust269.popl.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 141d 1h 39m 13s ago, saying: 'Anyone alive that could possibly answer a quick q?'.
15:17.17RogueShadowsanity has been gone 141 days.
15:17.19RogueShadowpurl said so
15:17.20purlWhy, so I did.
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15:19.50Pheredhel~seen insanity
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15:25.40Antiarc|WorkMorning folks
15:26.20sbu#api boobies
15:26.22ThraeBotCould not find anything relevant, sbu
15:26.24sbu:/
15:26.30Corussmornin Antiarc
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15:28.18mitch0yo
15:28.23mitch0I have a strange problem
15:29.18mitch0rangeFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(this, button) ... end
15:29.36Josh_Borkedon't use ...! ;-P
15:29.40mitch0this function normally gets called with (frame, button)
15:29.53mitch0but some addon is fking it up and button gets nil
15:30.09mitch0how come? what can I do?
15:30.24mitch0oh I know. some bloody addon is hooking it for sure
15:32.25mitch0and not passing the args
15:32.59mitch0why would any addon hook all frames' OnMouseDown?!
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15:37.38dodgizzlamitch0: Something like Visor or MoveAnything maybe?
15:38.33CIA-2203antiarc * r42963 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
15:38.33CIA-22Threat-1.0:
15:38.33CIA-22- Added Doomwalker module
15:38.33CIA-22- Removed an unnecessary parameter from the NPC threat wipe command
15:40.53mitch0they need to be shot
15:43.02dodgizzlaNah, doesn't hurt too much. Stab 'em! With something dull and rusty!
15:43.45mitch0what was the old-style global for the args? arg1,arg2, etc?
15:43.52mitch0so in my case button would be arg2?
15:44.42Josh_Borkemitch0: do you have SnapToGrid?
15:45.29mitch0I don't, but some of my addon's users apparently has (or some other shit that b0rks the params)
15:48.34mitch0alright, hacked it around :(
15:51.07Mikkmitch0: no, buttons would be arg1
15:51.30mitch0yeah, figured out by now :)
15:51.33mitch0still it's so lame
15:51.55Mikkno kidding
15:52.01mitch0I mean, not that it's arg1, but that I have to if (not button) then button = arg1 end :(
15:52.03Mikkalways pass ... when hooking ftw
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15:52.36Mikkit used to be pretty damn expensive before the switch to 5.1, but now there's no reason whatsoever to not always end your args with ... in case something gets extended
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15:56.03mitch0ok, I have 2 questions about sharedmedialib: 1) will I get more fonts if I ask for them "later" (not while the addons is loadin) I guess someone could register new fonts after my addon is loaded, right?
15:56.41mitch0and 2) how can I get the standard "system" fonts, too? right now I only get the user supplied ones
15:58.15mitch0and 3) am I right to assume that fiddling with the table returned is not very nice (as it's shared between all addons)
15:59.37art3mis1) prolly 2) i think you need to set the system fonts dir to get em all and load that way(clearfonts as example) 3) nah its always fun to mess with other addons from your own ;P
16:00.31mitch0ok. thanks. some metatable hacking is in order then :(
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16:00.46mitch0gotta run now though. seeya
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16:02.34CIA-2203vincent * r42964 10WeaponRebuff/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
16:02.34CIA-22WeaponRebuff:
16:02.34CIA-22<PROTECTED>
16:03.21CIA-2203saroz * r42965 10sRaidFrames/ (3 files):
16:03.21CIA-22sRaidFrames:
16:03.21CIA-22- Rewrite the status system to have a smaller memory footprint (don't create hundreds of mini-tables)
16:03.21CIA-22- Add Chain Heal tracking on primary target
16:03.21CIA-22- Fix tooltips sometimes giving a nil error while in battlegrounds
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16:13.39CIA-2203antiarc * r42966 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: Threat-1.0: Added frFR and zhTW translations for Doomwalker
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16:21.17[TFO]PikenHello all
16:22.06[TFO]PikenI have a few questions that some of you might be able to help me with.
16:22.14Antiarc|WorkSure, ask away
16:22.23harldephino.o
16:22.41[TFO]PikenI currently play wow on my laptop because my desktop is out of order.
16:22.54[TFO]PikenI usually use Photek 8.1 on my desktop
16:23.05Antiarc|WorkFWIW, I know nothing about compiliations
16:23.18[TFO]PikenBut this tends to drop my frame rate to 2-3 fps.
16:23.28[TFO]PikenQuestion isn't abotu comilitations.
16:23.29[TFO]Pikenlol
16:23.37Antiarc|WorkPhotek is a compiliation
16:23.53[TFO]PikenI need suggestions for mods to replace stuff that I would use that are memory and cpu friendly
16:24.08[TFO]PikenLike Unit frames and such.
16:24.16Antiarc|WorkWell, the first step is to find out what's eating your resources
16:24.24Antiarc|WorkPitbull's the usually-recommended unit frame replacement
16:24.47[TFO]Pikenis it less resoruce intense then Ag?
16:24.48Antiarc|WorkFuBar and FuBar_PerformanceFu are good tools for profiling memory and CPU usage, so you can find what's taking the most of your UI resources.
16:24.55Matrix110Not for cpu/memory friendly Antiarc:P
16:24.55harldephinif you're mostly playing on your own, there are many others that work quite well too
16:25.00Antiarc|WorkBoth Pitbull and Ag are pretty good
16:25.02Wobin_hehe
16:25.04Matrix110aguf is better if you want a memory/cpu friendly one
16:25.06Wobin_ag is better for resources
16:25.09Antiarc|WorkMatrix110: Pitbull's very lean without all the extra modules.
16:25.11Wobin_pitbull is prettier
16:25.23Matrix110But Pitbull can do everything you want it todo
16:25.32ChompersPitbull/Bartender3/Grid/BigWigs/oRA2
16:25.43jmeand cartographer
16:25.45Matrix110Antiarc well thats true but if you disable the Aura Module, well then it misses smth...
16:25.45jmeall you need
16:25.53Chompersnot necessary, really
16:26.03Chompersit's nice to have cart, but you can live play without it
16:26.06[TFO]PikenWith any of these UF's does the default bliz still take memory in the back for the hidden wow ui
16:26.06[TFO]Piken?
16:26.16jmeChompers: true
16:26.17Matrix110I think so
16:26.34[TFO]PikenThat will suck.
16:26.36RogueShadowif Pitbull can't do what you want it to do, (hah) ask for it.
16:26.37jmeChompers: i just like the uncovered map while levelling
16:26.45Matrix110"Replacing" the Blizzard UI is not possible afaik
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16:26.51jmeChompers: but even that isn't really necessary after you've played through the game once
16:26.51Chompersi don't think 20mb will make a huge difference
16:26.52hypetechumm
16:27.07hypetechhow do you report somebody? this fool keeps saying really racist shit in trade chat
16:27.16jmehypetech: right click, report spam
16:27.18Wobin_so
16:27.18Chompersits cpu usuage that you should focus on Piken
16:27.22Wobin_what's BT4 going to have?
16:27.53harldephinhypetech: what about /gm ? not good enough ?
16:27.54Chompersjme : i'm thinking more endgame raiding, perhaps cartographer/mobmap would help for leveling
16:27.54hypetechjme: I didn't know if that was just for spam, or if the GM would actually see that he was being racist
16:28.01CIA-2203rabbit * r42968 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Remove unused module property `registered'.
16:28.30jmeChompers: yeah, for endgame stuff i don't care about a map, or even an instance map
16:28.35Chompersoh god, i nearly forgot Omen/Threat :O
16:28.39harldephinyou can copy parts of your chat log and create an indivual ticket yourself
16:28.59harldephindon't need spam add-ons to report racists
16:29.05jmehypetech: i'm not sure, i always just use it :/
16:29.18RogueShadowI like assessment, but as others pointed out,  Recount has the same info, only more stable and complete than assessment.  
16:29.20harldephinindividual, even
16:29.26jmehypetech: but i think there's a social conduct issue in the GM reporter when you click the questionmark thing on the micro menu
16:29.27hypetechya, but I can't exactly copy and paste my chat log
16:29.39RogueShadowBut if you don't care about how much dmg per skill everybody int he group did. violation is good
16:30.16harldephinhypetech: why not? there are add-ons that allow you to copy and paste your chat log. or you could have WoW itself save it to the \logs\ directory, then open up the files and copy from there
16:30.24hypetechah
16:30.27hypetechwell I use prat
16:30.33hypetechI didn't realize there was a live log going
16:31.12RogueShadowI hate stupid racism.
16:31.14harldephindoesn't prat have a module for copying each chat frame ?
16:31.27durcynRogueShadow: but you enjoy smart racism?
16:31.35RogueShadowPeople here are always like "all our jobs are going to mexico stupid mexican's"  which is ridiculous
16:31.36CIA-2203thexod * r42969 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua:
16:31.36CIA-22ItemValue:
16:31.36CIA-22- Greatly improved Inspect and Player EQValue
16:31.36CIA-22- Restructured ItemValue.lua
16:31.41RogueShadowThere is no smart racism durcyn
16:31.45RogueShadowI'ts all about people
16:32.01RogueShadowMore like, Stupid AMERICAN corporations putting jobs in mexico
16:32.02RogueShadowlol
16:32.09sylvanaarharldephin yes -> copychat
16:32.09RogueShadowsorry, that was mean
16:32.57harldephink, then CopyChat it is.
16:33.10harldephinPrat_Modules\modules\CopyChat.lua
16:33.17RogueShadowGet ace, it pwns.
16:33.24RogueShadower.. good addon's pwn
16:33.27RogueShadowace is bonus.
16:33.40durcynRogueShadow: yes, I agree.  pluralizing with an apostrophe is ridiculous.
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16:34.04RogueShadowdurcyn: Thanks. I often worry about my punctuation when I'm having fun.
16:34.14harldephinmoo
16:34.15RogueShadowdurcyn: It does fall short.
16:35.27CIA-2203gagorian * r42970 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:
16:35.27CIA-22DrDamage:
16:35.27CIA-22- Fixed error on line 1753 (when druids shapeshift into a form with no mana bar)
16:35.33hypetechany way to increase the size of the buffer for chat?
16:35.45sylvanaaryes
16:36.41Kaelteng'morning
16:36.51Xuerian'morning, Kaelten
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16:37.44trhlol.. horde > alliance... in every bg, except alterac ^^
16:38.09sylvanaarhypetech prat has a module 'history' which does that
16:38.17sbutrh: well... eots... *sigh* :p
16:38.39trhsbu: just made 2 eye of the storm games, both times we won 4:0 =)
16:39.46jmetrh: in every bg, except whatever weekend bg it is <- fixed
16:40.25trhjme: nope, in our battlegroup the horde wins abt 5:1 every battleground, except for alterac
16:40.32trhjme: alterac is like 1:5
16:40.42trhjme: doesn't matter which weekend it is
16:41.05jmetrh: cool
16:42.26Antiarc|Workckknight: You around?
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16:46.02KemayoUndine: What's the niggly bug in AuldLangSyne_Fu you were talking about earlier?
16:47.12Undinethe tooltip for friends was repeating the note when subsequent chars had no note
16:47.25Undinei've tweaked my local copy
16:47.32durcynKemayo: any chance of multiple sort options in the auldlangsyne tooltip?  i'd like to see guild sort like GuildFu, i.e. rank then class
16:47.37Undinemust get round to checking how/where to report bugs ;)
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16:48.35break19Gagorian: *ping*
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16:49.07Gagorianbreak19: pong
16:49.23break19hey, mucho errors in drdamage [2007/07/06 08:45:37-105-x619]: DrDamage-1.1.9\Melee.lua:644: bad argument #1 to 'math_floor' (number expected, got nil)
16:49.30break19ive up to 615 of those :p
16:49.46break19rogue.
16:51.42CIA-2203gagorian * r42971 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
16:51.42CIA-22DrDamage:
16:51.42CIA-22- Fixed nil error with actions that can't crit
16:52.07Gagorianbreak19: Yar :p
16:52.08break19tnx :)
16:52.31break19now to just wait til the zips are updated (im lazy) heh
16:52.46GagorianWell, it's not very usable yet anyway :P
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16:53.00break19it works, and doesnt actually break anything..
16:53.26durcynKemayo: and for that matter, a modifier or selectable default click action for opening the guild tab instead of friends tab.
16:53.31Fisker-ah
16:53.35Fisker-more darwin awards
16:54.00GagorianI think I'll add all remaining rogue talents today
16:54.09Fisker-some 6 year old girl sat on some ventilation in a swimming pool
16:54.19Fisker-got some of her intestines ruined and she's in surgery
16:54.25break19ive never been one to care if the app is buggy, as long the coders are easy to get in contact with and easy to tell "hey, bug here" etc
16:54.26Fisker-The parents are of course suing for moneys
16:54.45durcynFisker-:  http://www.seizureandy.com/stuff/guts.html
16:55.01Fisker-no u
16:55.05durcynno, read it.
16:55.10CIA-2203nekromant * r42972 10beql/localization-ko.lua: beql: - Fixed typo error on line 101
16:55.14Fisker-TL;DR :(
16:55.19ChompersFisker-
16:55.25Chomperswould that suck your colon out?
16:55.41durcynit's about a guy who gets his intestines caught in a pool pump, and has to chew them off to survive
16:55.43Chompersor her vagina
16:55.47break19of course... no one bothers to take responsibility for their own actions anymore.. always blaming this person and that person..
16:55.53Chompersi'm sure i've head of that before, somewhere
16:57.05Fisker-apparently not Chompers :o
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17:01.55trhi hope blizzard will sometime allow addons to save data on the servers :)
17:01.56trhthat'
17:02.00trhd be awesome
17:02.11CIA-2203kemayo * r42973 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
17:02.11CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
17:02.11CIA-22-Fu: Stop notes flowing down to the next character if they have no note.
17:02.51Kemayodurcyn: I can do both of those.
17:03.15KemayoUndine: That should fix the problem -- I didn't notice it myself, for none of my friends don't have notes. :)
17:03.53Undine:)
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17:04.25Prophhow much honor for Veteran's Ring??
17:04.54trh11934 (band of something)
17:05.26Prophveteran's band of triumph
17:05.29Prophthe new one
17:06.23CIA-2203krytharn * r42974 10Reputation/: Reputation: -I accidentally omitted several required libraries. Users without Ace2 were not able to use the addon because of that. This has been fixed.
17:06.35break19woops.
17:06.51Gnarfozheh
17:07.21trhwhat shall i do if i got a localized class name and want the upper-case unlocalized english one? is there a blizzard table for conversion?
17:07.43Mikkiffy. you sure you can't get hold of the system name?
17:07.58trhyeah.. it's saved localized in the database
17:08.10trhi could save the system one for new entries, but not for old ones
17:08.10Mikk...
17:08.59Josh_Borke...
17:09.03trhdoesn't even seem that blizzard has the WARLOCK => Warlock conversion... sucks :/
17:09.38Mikkyou could fix your db iteratively as you learn new associations
17:10.14trhMikk: just thought of that too... although i'm not too happy about that solution :/
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17:11.01Gnarfozbabble-class + reverse translations?
17:11.47Punkie`Am I missing something, I can't profile some things I would like too with Expo
17:12.41trhGnarfoz: that'd be a idea
17:13.58trhckknight: ping?
17:14.42Punkie`Is there any way to see which addon is giving Ace2 so much garbage?
17:14.43CIA-2203kemayo * r42975 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/Fu.lua:
17:14.43CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
17:14.43CIA-22-Fu: Add alt-click on the plugin to open the guild panel.
17:14.43CIA-22-Fu: Remove pointless (always true) check on guild tooltip.
17:14.43CIA-22-Fu: Change sort method ordering -- everything was falling back on name, now it goes name>level>class>(zone|rank|online).
17:15.06trhPunkie`: not really except for binary search
17:15.07GnarfozPunkie`: running without externals will point to the real culprit, I'd guess
17:15.14trhGnarfoz: nope
17:15.24Gnarfoz...not?
17:15.24Gnarfoz;>
17:15.26trhGnarfoz: triggerevent memory will still be blamed on ace2
17:15.33Gnarfozhm
17:15.41Gnarfoztrue
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17:16.14Punkie`ok
17:16.18trhit's pretty impossible to debug it until you create a ace2 debug version profiling memory before event calls
17:16.19bohThere is a guy in my guild that - no matter how much he reinstalled the whole stuff again addonwise - is not getting correctly broadcasted on omen/violation. It looks like his informations are broadcasted with a huge delay, in fact, we just killed a boss and his violatio damage and threat-1.0 threat are at the moment being received by my client. Does anyone have an idea?
17:17.13NightHawkAtWorkhaha.. so my coworker in the next cube just came in, looked at his desk, picked up his paycheck, and said "we got paid? when did that happen?"
17:17.31NightHawkAtWorkAt which point I informed him that that happened last friday. (he's been working from home since last thursday)
17:17.38trhNightHawkAtWork: lol ;)
17:18.00RaydenUnisomeone on wowinsider mentioned a BC dungeon with a chest that can be stealthed to which drops 7-8g, a green, a gem, and sometimes a BOE blue
17:18.04RaydenUniany ideas on which dungeon?
17:18.07trhNightHawkAtWork: is it typical in the US to receive a paycheck every month?
17:18.18RaydenUnitrh for full-time jobs
17:18.18abyssichateRaydenUni: it should be shadow labyrinth
17:18.23NightHawkAtWorktrh: depends on the company.
17:18.32NightHawkAtWorktrh: Most typically is being paid every two weeks.
17:18.32durcyntrh: biweekly is common
17:18.43trhNightHawkAtWork  / RaydenUni: in germany you usually get the money paid to your bank account every month
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17:19.20Gnarfozwire transfers aren't that big in the U.S., IIRC
17:19.22NightHawkAtWorktrh: *nod* yeah, most people set up direct deposit (the money gets put directly to your bank account(s)).
17:19.22RaydenUnitrh most places give you the option of direct deposit
17:19.52trhGnarfoz: yeah.. guessed that, but never thought about how us-people get paid in their job :)
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17:20.02trhNightHawkAtWork: ah =)
17:20.05Antiarc|Workboh: I have no idea what's going on there. He doesn't show up at all during hte fight?
17:20.26trhboh: does he have swstats installed?
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17:20.37NightHawkAtWorkI actually can't recall any job that's ever paid me on a monthly basis. usually its weekly, or biweekly. *shrug*
17:21.08abyssichatetrh: nop
17:21.18Kaeltenany sys admins in here, is there anyway bringing an interface up on one machine sohuld be able to bring it down on another?
17:21.41durcynKaelten: no logical reason, no
17:21.47trhKaelten: not directly down, but if both interfaces use the same MAC or IP there might be problems
17:21.49durcynKaelten: i assume there's no cluster configuration?
17:21.53FrostByghteyou mean a fail over type thing or you just aasking in general?
17:22.14KaeltenI brought an interface up with a conflicting ip and another machine died because of it.
17:22.29trhKaelten: maybe some sort of security stuff
17:22.56Kaeltenya but that machine already had the ip
17:23.04Kaeltenand it waited 20 mins before the other machine went down
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17:23.31Gagorian#api UnitBuff
17:23.33ThraeBotGagorian: name, rank, iconTexture, count, duration, timeLeft =  UnitBuff(unit, buffIndex[, castable]);
17:23.36trhKaelten: maybe some sort of IDS detected "oooooh.. i'm being spoofed, i'm going down" don't know why it'd do that
17:23.39trhKaelten: but it could be
17:23.48durcynKaelten: certain versions of windows will shit the bed when they notice conflicting IPs, most unix should just sit there and wait for you to figure it out
17:23.48Tukshey guys, does anyone have in mind an addon that does AV queues?
17:23.57Tuksi remember stinkyqueue, but i know its not longer operational
17:23.59Kaeltendurcyn: both are linux
17:24.14durcynKaelten: anything interesting in dmesg on the victim?
17:24.34trhKaelten: could probably also happen because some ids tried to set invalid settings and the linux kernel felt it'd be better to shut the interface down
17:24.35Kaeltenas far as I know nothing
17:24.51trhKaelten: got IDS/firewalls/something installed there?
17:24.55FrostByghteTuks: I have Battleground Fu, seems to work
17:25.00Kaeltentrh the other machine is a new box
17:25.05Tukshum
17:25.12Tukscan i queue a grop for AV with that?
17:25.19FrostByghteKaelten: what distro? perhaps check on their forums
17:25.19trhKaelten: hmm.. no idea
17:25.34trhKaelten: could be a broken network stack.. but that's highly unlikely
17:25.34KaeltenI think its a RH on one and ubuntu on the other
17:25.36Kaeltenits weird
17:25.38FrostByghteTuks: I don't know, I generally go in with pick up groups
17:25.43Kaeltenfixed now but very weird.
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17:25.57FrostByghteKaelten: the machine just shutdown? did you check the logs?
17:26.03FrostByghteor did it lock up?
17:26.13durcynthink he said the interface went down, not the box
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17:26.36Kaeltenthe interface went down
17:26.43FrostByghteI've seen interfaces drop when errors are encountered
17:27.12durcynhmm, either box running avahi?
17:27.34durcynor ifplugd/netplugd
17:27.54durcynoh nevermind, avahi's multicast dns
17:28.49durcynKaelten: best guess: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/avahi-autoipd.action.8.html
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17:32.36Mikkthat sounds like a piece of seriously idiotic software
17:32.53Mikk"ohnoes! someone in my vicinity did something bad!" *dies*
17:33.56trhit might make man-in-the-middle attacks harder
17:33.59break19sounds about right
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17:36.47Mikkpft, if someone's screwing you over on your local network, they have so many options on hand it's not even funny
17:39.01CIA-2203helium * r42976 10Yata/ (7 files):
17:39.01CIA-22Yata:
17:39.01CIA-22- updated zhTW Localization
17:39.01CIA-22- retrieve localizable string from *.lua to Localization.lua
17:39.24GagorianDoes dual wield spec for rogues increase offhand damage to 100%? or increase by 50% to 75%?
17:39.32Gagorian(the talent)
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17:39.57GnarfozGagorian: to 75%
17:40.07Gagoriank
17:40.17Gnarfozfor warrior's it's t0 62.5% IIRC
17:40.28Gnarfozto, even
17:40.50Antiarc|WorkCorrect
17:41.10Antiarc|WorkGagorian: That 25% bonus applies to Mutilate, too
17:41.15Antiarc|WorkWhich is why so many rogues go 41/20/0
17:41.18Gnarfozyep, they've got 5/10/15/20/25, rogues got 10/20/30/40/50
17:42.24Gnarfozhm, if I get another good dagger in kara (lol, being the only rogue both sucks and rocks :|), I'll try mutilate perhaps ^^
17:42.27Punkie`that would be insane Antiarc|Work
17:42.29Antiarc|WorkBecause, you know, it's not like I've spent the character's entire life fighting with two weapons or anything.
17:42.31Gnarfozindeed it would ;D
17:42.37GagorianAntiarc|Work: Aye, seems like Muti is pretty strong with DW spec
17:42.47trhomg.. that us-senator explaining the internet with  trucks and tubes is quite skilled compared to german politicans :(
17:42.47Antiarc|WorkI've got Malchazeen and an Emerald Ripper banked. >_>
17:42.48Gnarfozmy OH would do more dmg than my MH
17:42.48GagorianUnless it's poison immune
17:42.53Antiarc|WorkI'm just combat because I loves it so hard.
17:43.01Gnarfozcombat luv
17:43.06Antiarc|WorkWell, that and I'm dualing Arena fists, which are just insane
17:43.12Antiarc|Work2k+ SS crits on the top end for the win.
17:43.22Gnarfoz< swords :<
17:43.26Antiarc|WorkI love when I run into a no-resilience mage in the arena
17:43.30Antiarc|WorkThey just sorta evaporate
17:43.35Gnarfozit's going to take ages to replace my vindicator's b rand
17:43.49Antiarc|WorkNah, just grab an arena sword
17:43.53Punkie`well I do quite good damage with mutilate
17:43.55Gnarfozthat's what I meant :D
17:44.02Antiarc|WorkLike 4 weeks of mediocre 5v5 = sword yay
17:44.03Chompersswords rogues are evil
17:44.07CIA-2203adirelle * r42977 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua libs/): SimpleSelfRebuff: preliminary module support.
17:44.14Gnarfozyeah, need a 5v5 team badly
17:44.16Gnarfoz2v2 sucks.
17:44.20break19<- mutilate+dw spec.. thinking of going back to mutilate/subtle
17:44.25Gnarfozspent my first batch of points on s2 OH sword
17:44.26Chomperscurator down after one evo with sword rogues + wf totem
17:44.27Gnarfozamazing oO
17:44.34Antiarc|WorkI'd probably go Mut/Sub for pure PVP
17:44.40trhdamn adirelle not being in the channel but commiting ;)
17:44.48Antiarc|WorkBut since I raid heavily, I'd have to go 41/20/0
17:45.00Punkie`If you want to download 180mb to see the best first takedown of tidewalker ever and me doing awesome dps: http://thomas-k.net/wow/videos/BOON/BOONvsZOMGMURLOCS.avi !!!!
17:45.02break19Antiarc|Work: i dunno.. ghostly strike sure makes soloing a lot easier
17:45.12Punkie`the end of that video does actually rule :P
17:45.18GnarfozI'm pondering whether to pick raid days in a way that allows me to respec back and forth between pvp and pve in b etween raids, to be able to get more arena points ;D
17:45.35CIA-2203thexod * r42978 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua:
17:45.35CIA-22ItemValue:
17:45.35CIA-22- Fixed weird inspect values
17:45.36Antiarc|Workbreak19: Nothing compares to Blade Flurry + Adrenaline Rush for soloing. :D
17:45.37*** join/#wowace Magice (n=chatzill@S01060018f85bcb07.du.shawcable.net)
17:45.54Antiarc|WorkAlso, dear lord, I love when casters clump up behind a pillar in the arena.
17:45.55break19heh
17:46.00trhGnarfoz: i wish blizzard would allow to create 2 specs, giving you the possibility to switch between these both for like 5g
17:46.11Gnarfozthat'd be insanely neat :D
17:46.16Antiarc|WorkShammie earthshields me, cheapshot, BF, AR, CloS, and nuke 2-3 casters.
17:46.20GnarfozAntiarc: yes, that's my favorite situation xD
17:46.26Gnarfozeven in 2v2
17:46.36trhrogues are evil
17:46.45Gnarfozgot another combat sword rogue, same weapons... 2x BF+AR = dead whatever clumps up there
17:47.10MagiceWhich ace libraries would I need to use to make an addon that removes chat frame buttons and binds the chat frame to the mouse wheel?
17:47.11Gnarfozalso the only way we seem to be able to win against pala/warrior combinations
17:47.31break19Magice: prat can already do that :p
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17:47.40Antiarc|WorkI'd guess you'd want to sap the paladin, let him bubble out, then chain-blind him while you kill the warrior
17:47.43trhMagice: needing - probably none, useful would be AceHook probably
17:47.47break19reinventing the wheel ftl
17:47.49MagiceI'm trying to create something that is barebones/better on memory
17:48.02break19Magice: so disable all the other modules.. boom barebones
17:48.04GagorianHmm, is there an easy way to determine if I'm behind the mob?
17:48.05trhhttp://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2262/5v5ft1.jpg http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3071/3v3mp8.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3985/2v2ap1.jpg
17:48.09GnarfozAntiarc: yeah, but most paladins either are not stupid enough to bubble out while we're still stealthed
17:48.19trhinteresting class distribution in arena ^^
17:48.20Gnarfozor they put BoSac on the other guy in their team
17:48.51Gnarfozmaking them un-incapacitateable :D
17:49.02Antiarc|WorkBoSac = no BoFreedom = yay kiting
17:49.20Antiarc|WorkWarrior + Freedom is my worst enemy ;_;
17:49.38trhthose warrior/pala combos need a nerf :(
17:49.49break19nerf my ass. heh
17:49.50trhwe had a 5v5 match vs 3warriors + 2 palas
17:49.56trhthat was really bad.... for us
17:50.02Gnarfozheh, figures
17:50.10Gnarfozit's already evil at 1war+1pala
17:50.17break195v5 all druids - scarier thought
17:50.51Gnarfozo_O
17:50.52trhbreak19: not really... druids didn't got mortal strike
17:51.07Gnarfozneed magic damage against bears
17:51.47trhGnarfoz: na.. just ignore the bear, kill eht others, heal damage from bear
17:51.57trhGnarfoz: not a big problem until you got mortal strike on you
17:51.58break19trh - 1 oomkin, a bear, 2 cats and a tree...
17:52.26trhbreak19: no problem, the oomkin is down before he can start to dance ;)
17:52.45break19cats go straight for the healer, oomkin kites whoevers chasin him..
17:53.09trhbreak19: then the pala does the phys-immune bubble and the druids are f*cked
17:53.20GagorianAntiarc|Work: Do you know of a way to determine if I'm behind a mob?
17:53.23trhbreak19: because then the first cat goes down in seconds with one healer
17:53.35break19if he's bubbled, he aint doin anythin but healing
17:53.37GagorianNeed to apply Opportunity -_-
17:53.56trhbreak19: 2 palas + 3 warriors, still one pala bubble, one more to heal
17:54.21Antiarc|WorkGagorian: There is none, no.
17:54.31Antiarc|WorkGagorian: If you can hit with Mut/Backstab, then you got Opportunity
17:54.31trhbreak19: don't forget the 3 warrior fears
17:54.35Antiarc|WorkWhich is the only place it applies anyway
17:54.38Antiarc|WorkAmbush too
17:54.52Antiarc|WorkThey're all positional, so you can just apply opportunity every time they land
17:55.06trhAntiarc: isn't it calculated by the server if you can hit the target or not with backstab?
17:55.11Antiarc|WorkYeah
17:55.14trhAntiarc: and no way to know it before (addon-wise)
17:55.16break19Gagorian: the way to handle that imo is just not figure it in
17:55.18Antiarc|WorkBut you can only hit from the rear 180 arc
17:55.30Antiarc|WorkSo you don't need to figure out if you're behind the mob or not for theorycraft purposes
17:55.40Antiarc|WorkJust add a flat bonus to backstab/ambush/mutilate, since they can only hit positionally.
17:55.47break19right
17:56.10GagorianAntiarc|Work: Yeah, that's what I've done so far
17:56.12break19wait, gag..
17:56.30break19the only thing opportunity gives a bonus to can only be used from behind anyway..
17:56.53CIA-2203gandharva * r42979 10SimpleCombatLog/ (18 files):
17:56.53CIA-22SimpleCombatLog:
17:56.53CIA-22- added frFR localization made by Djidiouf
17:56.53CIA-22- set svn:mime-type
17:57.04Kalman|Gagorian: If you don't already know this, an important thing to know about Mutilate is that DW spec increases the offhand's bonus damage.
17:57.16GagorianKalman|: Yeah it's taken care off :)
17:57.32Kalman|OK.  Just making sure, it's a glitchy little thing people don't always realize.
17:57.32Gagorianbreak19: Oh, I didn't know Garrote was back only. Yeah, it's fine :p
17:57.51break19ya.
17:58.08break19afaik, the only opening that doesnt is cheapshot
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17:58.43GagorianHoes does Hemorraghe debuff get applied? A straight + damage without modifiers?
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17:59.05Gandharvagood evening
17:59.37break19hmm, i wonder... which would be better dmg output on mutilate. opportunity rank 5, or dw spec rank 5
18:00.05CIA-2203antiarc * r42980 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: Added the T6 2-piece Druid bonus (+15% threat to mangle)
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18:00.49Antiarc|WorkIt's basically a +7 weapon damage buff, Gagorian
18:01.00Antiarc|WorkOr whatever the new rank is
18:01.05Gagorian14 mayhaps
18:01.18Antiarc|Work+10 for rank 4, looks like
18:01.19Gagorian7 weapon damage or 7 weapon base damage
18:01.32Antiarc|Workweapon base damage, I believe
18:01.40Antiarc|WorkLike a +7 sharpening stone on your weapon would be
18:01.53Antiarc|WorkI haven't taken Hemo seriously for a while now >_>
18:02.05Antiarc|WorkI ran into a Hemo rogue in a few arena matches last night and just destroyed her
18:02.22Antiarc|WorkThe trinket change basically ensured that the days of Hemo being more viable than Combat for PVP are over
18:02.34Antiarc|WorkNice Hemo stunlock! *trinket* *pwn*
18:03.04Undinewhat's the best way to diagnose seemingly random tiny lockups (<1s every 5-10 seconds or so)
18:03.06Antiarc|WorkRiposte + Surprise Attacks > any other rogue.
18:03.49Antiarc|WorkHey, question
18:03.51trhhow expensive is UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage?
18:04.01Antiarc|WorkThe druid T6 bonus - is it multiplicative or additive?
18:04.15Antiarc|WorkMangle = damage * 1.3 threat
18:04.27Antiarc|WorkDoes that become Damage * 1.45, or Damage * 1.495?
18:04.40Kalman|I'd assume multiplicative.
18:05.09CIA-2203gandharva * r42981 10SimpleCombatLog/ (14 files in 2 dirs): SimpleCombatLog: moved localization files to separate folder
18:05.10GagorianNearly everything is multiplicative in wow :p
18:05.17Antiarc|WorkI'd assume so too, but the bear form threat talent is additive.
18:05.23Gagorian-_-
18:05.43Antiarc|WorkBears get 145% threat with their defiance-like talent, whereas wars get 149.5% threat with defiance.
18:05.51GandharvaGagorian: Not Warris
18:06.11Gagorian#api GetItemInfo
18:06.13ThraeBotGagorian: itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID or "itemString" or "itemName" or "itemLink")
18:06.18Antiarc|WorkOkay, that's hot
18:06.18GagorianI hope that itemType isn't localized
18:06.39GagorianOr I'll rip my hair out
18:07.11break19oh man, I'd never rip my hair out... its falling out on its own just fine..
18:07.37break19<- will be 31 in a month and 2 days.
18:07.44GagorianAt least I don't have to go to the barber
18:07.52trhbreak19: pretty close to dead... ;)
18:07.57Gagorianlol
18:08.02trher.. death
18:08.15CIA-2203cryect * r42982 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Several performance optimizations on leaving combat now
18:08.21Undineyoungsters :)
18:08.26trhna.. i'm 25 now, so i didn't got much time left either ;)
18:08.47Antiarc|WorkitemType and itemSubType are not localized.
18:08.50Mikkhah. that's when years just start going ZOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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18:08.57Mikkyou'll be past me before you know what happened :P
18:09.01GagorianAntiarc|Work: Win.
18:09.19break19trh: heh
18:09.34trhMikk: hehe
18:11.21NightHawkAtWorkThat's why I like hanging out in here. I'm not the oldest person in the room. :)
18:11.31Saint-Nyou see about that?
18:11.33Saint-Nsure
18:11.41Saint-Nyou smell like formaldahyde
18:11.53NightHawkAtWorkThat's just because I'm a necropheliac.
18:11.56Saint-Noh
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18:14.33CIA-2203antiarc * r42983 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Activate ThreatLib when we target a hostile; should fix problems such as dismount -> arcane shot before the pet reappears.
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18:16.04CIA-2203antiarc * r42984 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Run PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED() when Threat activates so that we pick up any new target that was selected while Threat was inactive.
18:17.53Strigoi|LRI've been always wonderring about 1 small issue with PiBull's aura configuration: sometimes auras frame move like 1 line above supposed position, it looks like this: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3672/wowscrnshot070607221356do8.jpg
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18:18.37CIA-2203saroz * r42985 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: Add mindcontrol warning to Leotheras
18:18.39Strigoi|LRis there a way to avoid this, maybe it's some optin that causes this "jump"
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18:20.53CIA-2203gagorian * r42986 10DrDamage/Data/ (Rogue.lua Warrior.lua):
18:20.53CIA-22DrDamage:
18:20.53CIA-22- Added rest of rogue talent data
18:21.07CIA-2203bam * r42987 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (ItemPriceTooltip.lua ItemPriceTooltip.toc embeds.xml):
18:21.07CIA-22ItemPriceTooltip:
18:21.07CIA-22- Added FuBar support
18:21.41Strigoi|LRany ideas? :p
18:23.23GagorianHrmm.. Only have white melee calcs left plus hunters
18:23.33GagorianBefore hybrids
18:23.42Gagorianwhich will be a bit tricky since both modules need to load :x
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18:25.04trhAntiarc: got a suggestion for omen: "aggro warning - bear: no, cat: yes" ;)
18:25.29Antiarc|WorkHeh
18:25.46Antiarc|WorkI could do that, actually
18:25.48trhAntiarc: beacuse when tanking it's annoying.. and if you turn it off, you die as a cat ;)
18:25.53Antiarc|WorkTurn off warnings for bear form and defensive stance
18:26.03trhAntiarc: that'd be nice :)
18:26.06GagorianNot a bad idea :p
18:26.22Antiarc|Work#api GetStanceIndex
18:26.23ThraeBotCould not find anything relevant, Antiarc|Work
18:26.34Antiarc|WorkHrm
18:26.41Antiarc|WorkWhat is that function...
18:26.48Gagorian#get GetShapeshiftForm
18:26.52Gagorian#api GetShapeshiftForm
18:26.54ThraeBotGagorian: stance = GetShapeshiftForm(arg1);
18:26.54Gagorianwhoops
18:26.58Antiarc|WorkAha
18:26.59Antiarc|WorkThanks
18:27.21Gagorian<PROTECTED>
18:27.21Gagorian<PROTECTED>
18:27.21Gagorian<PROTECTED>
18:27.44GagorianFor druids it's more complicated I think
18:27.51GagorianSince it's possible they're missing a form
18:27.56GagorianThen it's probably a different index
18:28.09Gagorian(aquatic form or whatever?)
18:28.17CIA-2203bam * r42988 10ItemPriceTooltip/Libs/:
18:28.17CIA-22ItemPriceTooltip:
18:28.17CIA-22- Added FuBar to svn:externals too
18:28.21GagorianBut, bear form is nr 1
18:28.33GagorianSo if you only need that it's fine
18:28.50anholtmeh, I want drdamage for cat numbers.
18:28.55trhi guess every druid has at least bear form (first you get) and cat
18:29.13nevcairielbut can is generally 3
18:29.15Gagoriananholt: Eventually... :p
18:29.18nevcairielif you skipped aquatic
18:29.19nevcairielits 2
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18:29.27nevcairielcan=cat
18:29.59trhyeah.. but most important is turn off threat warning in stance = 1
18:30.05trhthe other stances can have threat warnings =)
18:30.10trherr
18:30.13trh2 on warrior and 1 on druid
18:30.58Peoiicat form is highly overrated anyway, go bear4life.
18:31.16Corussthere's no way to tell which form their in other than a stance id?
18:31.19GagorianHmm, hunters.. or not hunters..
18:31.27vithoshunters imo
18:31.35trhGagorian: depends where ;)
18:31.38Sarozbuff
18:31.50CIA-2203antiarc * r42989 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added an option to disable warnings while tanking (default true).
18:32.02GagorianWell, pondering if I'll do hunter talents/calculation now or later!
18:32.08trhAntiarc: that was fast, thanks :)
18:32.16vithoswhat about stance dancing warriors?
18:32.27Antiarc|WorkThey'll get warnings if they cross the threshold while dancing
18:32.34Antiarc|WorkBut that should be rather rare.
18:33.07vithosgood enough for me
18:33.41trhand off warriors should pretty rarely switch to defensive stance to not get aggro ;)
18:34.12Antiarc|WorkActually, the warrior will get a warning if he is tanking, dances too slowly, gets feared, and someone else gets targeted, which is good anyway. :D
18:36.16GagorianGarrh. Now how can I tell how many times hunter's mark has been improved?
18:36.22GagorianI think it's impossible :l
18:36.55trhimpossible as a "viewer"
18:37.42Antiarc|WorkDoes anyone have a Gurtogg Bloodboil combat log handy?
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18:40.16CIA-2203cryect * r42990 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Few performance improvements on the time tick
18:42.34Antiarc|WorkAnyone here familiar with the Gurtogg Bloodboil fight?
18:42.53Antiarc|WorkI just need to know if the full name of his knockaway is "Eject"
18:43.26NeoTronso last night we spend 2 hours in gruul's lair.. and then kills morogrim on the 3rd try (our second kill ever)
18:43.48NeoTronwe also sucked on mag this week and then went to one shot hydross and two-shot lurker (would have been one shot if he didn't bug out)
18:43.59NeoTronso apparently we suck on farm content..
18:44.01abyssichateAntiarc: I think it is
18:45.38CIA-2203antiarc * r42991 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (NPCModules/BlackTemple/Bloodboil.lua Threat-1.0.xml): Threat-1.0: Added Gurtogg Bloodboil module to handle Eject (Insignifi(c|g)ance is handled generically). Needs non-enUS localizations.
18:47.45RogueShadowI haven't put any points into a weapon specilization for my rogue.  Too much weapon swapping going on.
18:48.48Antiarc|WorkWeapon specs are what make a combat build fun
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18:50.19Mikkgogo swords
18:50.29Corussswords = sick burst damage
18:50.38Mikksick sustained too
18:50.41Corussdaggers = best overrall dps
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18:50.59Corussfists and maces are more pvp oriented
18:51.00Mikkhrm? could have sworn our dpsmonster combat rogue uses swords
18:51.06Gnarfozswords > all :>
18:51.23Gagorianany hunter here?
18:51.24Corussswords can be good, but you need sick weapons to max the dps
18:51.26trhcool.. my event profiler seems to work :)
18:51.27Mikkfast sword in OH for woohoo combat potency procs
18:51.27Gnarfozso they turned the port command off for PTRs?
18:51.38GnarfozCoruss: and those are easy to get. :>
18:51.41Corussgnarfoz: ya some nub reported it in forums
18:51.49Gnarfozbleh
18:51.53Gnarfoz*uninstall ptr client*
18:51.54CorussGnarfoz: not when we're talking about blinkstrike ^^
18:52.00Gnarfozhuh
18:52.07Gnarfozyou don't need blinkstrike, you've got swordspec
18:52.18Corussthey're seperate effects, meaning they stack
18:52.21GnarfozI know.
18:52.27GagorianHunters, report in, hunters report in.
18:52.34Gnarfozit's just not necessary to own the hell out of everyone else :D
18:52.34Corusswhen trying to maximize the burst, blinkstrike = king
18:52.38Corusslol
18:52.48Corusshunters? dun see any
18:53.01Corusstry the e-z-mode channel
18:53.36Coruss(easy to play, very difficult to master, shot rotations and all that)
18:53.42trhGagorian: you might have more success just asking the question ;)
18:53.56Corusstrh: agree
18:54.03GagorianI have multiple questions
18:54.09abyssichateAntiarc: a guy that is using the latest revision of omen+threat-1.0 doesn't seem to be broadcasting data properly; it is like if there was a delay on his communications, that happens with Violation too; I need to wait for 20-30 seconds to pass after a boss fight so that his damage gets fully received, for example. Any clue about what it could be? Reinstall way has already been tried afaik
18:54.12jme<- huntard
18:54.50jmeforever lfg
18:55.03GagorianAlright. When improved aspect of the hawk procs do you get any buff?
18:55.27trhGagorian: yes, ranged attack speed increase
18:55.28Corussiirc, you do
18:55.45GagorianWell, it's a buff, but do you get a buff icon :f
18:55.50ThorgardGagorian, yes.
18:55.52trhGagorian: yes
18:55.55GagorianK, what's it called?
18:56.11jmei think it's rapid firing
18:56.16jmeor rapid killing
18:56.17Antiarc|Workabyssichate: I haven't a clue. That's...really bizarre.
18:56.18trhhttp://www.thottbot.com/?sp=19554
18:56.22Antiarc|Workabyssichate: Is he seeing his own threat properly?
18:56.32abyssichateyes
18:56.32GagorianQuick Shots?
18:56.35abyssichateand he can see ours too
18:56.41Antiarc|WorkHrm. Wonder if AceComm was changed recently...
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18:56.46jmeGagorian: yes, that
18:56.47abyssichateI was wondering that too
18:56.48trhGagorian: yep
18:56.56abyssichatebut I think he reinstalled it. It's included in Ace2 isn't it?
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18:57.05Antiarc|WorkYes, it is
18:57.28GagorianMmkay. Is the attack speed bonus seen in the tooltip?
18:57.34Antiarc|WorkLooks like AceComm was last changed June 27
18:57.39Gagorianermm, charscreen
18:57.40Antiarc|WorkSo I'm not sure that's it.
18:57.47CIA-2203cryect * r42992 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Deleting old data is done less often to save processing time on the time tick
18:57.47Antiarc|Workabyssichate: You're running latest and are broadcasting properly?
18:58.22RogueShadow#char us azshara Xelis What do you think of my weapons?
18:58.23ThraeBotRogueShadow: that is not the character you're looking for!
18:58.26RogueShadowoops
18:58.30RogueShadow#char us azshara Xelis
18:58.31ThraeBotRogueShadow: Xelis, Level 39 Blood Elf Rogue (5/25/0). 1861 HP; 191 Agi; 1078 Armour; 441 AP; +15.97% melee crit.
18:58.38abyssichateAntiarc: eys
18:58.41RogueShadowah took out the linkint
18:58.51Antiarc|WorkHrm.
18:58.53jmeoooh... now i'm wondering if quick shots stacks with rapid fire (the MM talent)
18:58.53Antiarc|WorkWhat locale is he?
18:58.58abyssichateeveryone notices that this guy is sending his stuff with a HGUE delay
18:58.59abyssichateenEU
18:59.14Antiarc|WorkDoes it appear with anything other than Omen/Violation?
18:59.38abyssichatenot really but those two are the only data-exchanging addons we use
18:59.50Antiarc|WorkHrm. Okay.
19:00.00RogueShadowhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azshara&n=Xelis
19:00.11abyssichateI'll just tell him to make sure to update Ace2 I guess
19:00.12Antiarc|Workabyssichate: If you want, install the addon ViewAddonMessage
19:00.23Antiarc|WorkThat will let you see addon comm traffic, and you can see if any messages from him are coming across
19:00.37abyssichatenice
19:00.53abyssichateCan I filter the souce of the comms?
19:00.57abyssichate*source
19:01.35RogueShadowRight now i'm using a dagger and a sword. :(  Perhaps I can get a sword of omen....
19:01.57trhjme: they do
19:02.21jmetrh: cool
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19:05.35GagorianK, next question
19:05.42GagorianIn focused fire, it says when your pet is active
19:05.44Gagorianwtf does that mean
19:05.54GagorianYou have a pet, or your pet is in combat
19:06.51trhi don't understand the question
19:07.21GagorianFocused fire talent says it applies a damage bonus when your pet is active. What does active in this context mean?
19:07.26ArrowmasterGagorian: i have that talent on my 20 hunter
19:07.51GagorianArrowmaster: Alright. Can you check if UnitDamage("player") output changes when it's on?
19:08.03GagorianThen I don't need to handle it at all
19:08.09Arrowmasterwhen you have a pet out the last output from UnitRangedDamage("player") changes
19:08.11trhGagorian: ah.. it's always active when the pet is active
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19:08.18GnarfozGagorian: should mean "your pet is there, not despawned"
19:08.22trhGagorian: and in the character tab under damage it says *102%
19:08.24kergoth..\AddOns\DrDamage\Caster.lua line 347:
19:08.24kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:08.40kergoth(when trying to /drdamage actionbar updatectrl)
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19:09.15Gagoriankergoth: ... Alright I'll have it fixed
19:09.29Gagorian(seriously, regexp search and replace is ruining me)
19:09.39Antiarc|WorkHow do I use passValue in the AceOptions table?
19:09.54Antiarc|Workie, I'm building a Dewdrop menu, and I want to pass a key index to the set function along with the set value.
19:09.59GagorianCause I did DrDamage. -> self.
19:10.07Gagorianguess if all DrDamage: got changed to self.
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19:10.45kergothahh
19:10.48kergothhehe, oops
19:13.28CIA-2203gagorian * r42993 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Caster.lua Data/Hunter.lua Melee.lua):
19:13.28CIA-22DrDamage:
19:13.28CIA-22- More work on the melee module and hunters
19:13.28CIA-22- Fixed errors in caster module
19:13.33Gagoriankergoth: Done
19:14.16Gagoriantrh: Is the best within reflect in character tab?
19:14.26Gagorians/best/beast/
19:14.47Gagorian*reflected. Oh boy, I can't type today
19:15.29trhpurl: no idea. not a bm :)
19:15.35Arrowmasterfind out about fericous inspiration too
19:15.53GagorianArrowmaster: I'm 80% certain it's reflected in char tab
19:16.10Arrowmasterare there any buffs that only effect melee by a % and not spells?
19:16.28GagorianShadow Embrace as far as I can tell
19:16.33Gagorianand Naturalist Druid talent
19:17.00Arrowmasteri ment effect melee by % by being returned from UnitDamage as a % modifier
19:17.17GagorianThat's what I meant too
19:17.20Arrowmasterah
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19:17.34GagorianI use UnitDamage now even for casters
19:17.42Arrowmastergood
19:17.55Arrowmasterthe darkmoonbuff will show correctly then
19:18.11GagorianI added it earlier as a static 10%
19:18.22Arrowmasteryeah its random between 1-10%
19:18.26GagorianYar
19:18.56GagorianI was reluctant in using UnitDamage at first but when I researched it seemed like it could work
19:19.13Gagoriannow I just store the old UnitDamage before any buff/debuff is applied
19:19.28GagorianIf the one applied is Shadow Embrace (or any other I find that affects only physical)
19:19.30GagorianI use the stored one
19:20.04GagorianSo eventually if stuff gets added, it's easier to remove effects than to add effects :)
19:20.17Arrowmasterweve got 2x BM hunters in the guild, ill try and ask about TBW and FI
19:20.45GagorianDamage increase to everything seems to affect UnitDamage return no matter if it's a talent or a buff/debuff
19:20.55GagorianSo I assumed Soul Link even does it
19:21.08Gagorian(Would like some testing on that too)
19:21.13Arrowmasterbah
19:21.28Arrowmasterill do it if i have to
19:21.32Arrowmasterhate respecing
19:21.36wereHamsterme noob (by that I mean my brother) need lib to track debuffs (when they expire)
19:21.44GagorianwereHamster: SEA
19:21.51GagorianSpecialEvents-Aura
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19:22.03wereHamsterthanks :)
19:22.15Gagorianregister to event "SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffLost"
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19:22.24Gagorianyou will get buffName etc as args
19:22.50Antiarc|WorkI kinda want to write an Arena mod
19:22.54GagorianArrowmaster: Well it's not that important, if it's wrong I'm sure some SL lock will complain ;)
19:23.00GagorianOr then I'll just check at next PTR cycle
19:23.11Antiarc|WorkBasically, it'd publish what intersting cooldowns you have, and would then broadcast when you use them.
19:23.15Antiarc|WorkSo your team knows your cooldown status
19:23.18Saint-NSL == Super Loser?
19:28.09ThorgardClose, Saint-N, Super Leet!
19:34.09Saint-Noooooo
19:34.09Saint-Ni wish i had a Super Leet lock
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19:39.16GagorianWell, what do hunters think; Do you need any information on traps? It seems pretty useless to me as nothing really affects them
19:39.51syerenAntiarc, it's pointless and useless.
19:40.02syerenAnyone worth a damn in the arena knows this shit via Vent / TS ;p
19:40.15ArrowmasterGagorian: theres a talent that does, and debuffs would
19:40.38GagorianYar but is the talent reflected in the tooltip by blizzard?
19:40.41Chompersi'm the off tank for netherspite, i take the green beam first, it's our hunters first time here
19:41.16Chompershe's standing right between the grean beam and netherspite shouting "GET THE BEAM OFF ME OH GOD"
19:41.27ArrowmasterGagorian: no clue
19:41.34GagorianArrowmaster: Also, I'll leave the fire damage debuffs at least to caster module
19:41.49GagorianA trap is probably not worth adding it for
19:41.55Chomperssomeone calmly says to him "move to the left"
19:42.09jmeChompers: haha
19:42.44Chompersoh course this is right after he's had the tactics explained to him
19:42.50Chompersa good 10 minutes of talking
19:43.34Tuksguys
19:43.44Tuksi need a quick way to find if someone
19:43.46Tuksis raid lider
19:44.14durcynthe easiest way to tell if someone's leider is to see if they're wearing the hosen.
19:44.20durcynyou can't miss it
19:44.29Tuksno idea how to do taht :(
19:44.42Chomperszing
19:44.46durcynthe beer and funny dancing helps too
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19:47.32Gagorianfor i=1, 25 do; local name, rank = GetRaidRosterInfo(i); if rank and rank == 2 then addon:Print( name .. " is leader." ) end end
19:48.20Mikkreplace that 25 with 40
19:48.29durcyn#api IsPromoted
19:48.30ThraeBotCould not find anything relevant, durcyn
19:48.37durcynfucking bot.
19:48.50Mikkprolly not the bot's fault
19:48.56GagorianMost likely! :P
19:49.07durcyn#api IsRaidLeader
19:49.08Mikkmost likely there's no page for it, just a oneliner in the listing page
19:49.08ThraeBotdurcyn:  IsRaidLeader()
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19:49.16durcynwell, there you go.
19:49.17Mikker whoa that's ugly
19:50.03Tuksso its like, self.IsRaidLeader()
19:50.25CIA-2203totalpackage * r42994 10Capping/ (13 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:50.25CIA-22Capping
19:50.25CIA-22- cleaner implementation to prevent other mods from moving the world pvp info frame if one used Capping to move it
19:50.25CIA-22- merged some lonely functions
19:50.25CIA-22- locales are now handled locally
19:50.27CIA-22- added more bars to the "Test" option
19:50.29CIA-22- added a thin shadow to the flag carrier text
19:50.43Gagoriandurcyn: So, how will that tell who is raid leader?
19:50.48GagorianIt's just if you're raid leader.
19:51.01Tukswell you could check, object.israidleader()
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19:51.21GagorianUmm, no?
19:51.25Tuksi guess.. im not familiar with lua at all, i want to modify an addon, thats is leting everyone use the buttons
19:51.56GagorianDo you want to know if the player himself is the raid leader, or who in the raid is?
19:52.06Mikk#api IsRaidLeader
19:52.07ThraeBotMikk:  isLeader = IsRaidLeader()
19:52.39Mikk#api GetRaidRosterInfo
19:52.40ThraeBotMikk: name, rank, subgroup, level, class, fileName, zone, online, isDead, role, isML = GetRaidRosterInfo(raidIndex);
19:53.37Mikk"fileName" might be the stupidest-picked variable name in all of wowwiki
19:53.44Mikkyeah i KNOW that's what blizz calls it in framexml
19:54.06CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r42995 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua:
19:54.06CIA-22BulkMail2Inbox:
19:54.06CIA-22- attempted fix for Take All ops stopping on mails with money; drycoded, but SHOULD be simple >8)
19:54.07Mikkbut.. i mean... internalClass ... unlocalizedClass ... wahtever
19:54.28CIA-2203gagorian * r42996 10DrDamage/ (Data/Hunter.lua Melee.lua):
19:54.28CIA-22DrDamage:
19:54.28CIA-22- Hunter talents (the rest)
19:56.28Tuksis there a way to reload an addon without closing the game?
19:56.42CIA-2203phyber * r42997 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
19:56.42CIA-22Fizzle:
19:56.42CIA-22- Tabards can have quality too, so colour the border.
19:56.42CIA-22- Above change brought to you by me being border and going to get [Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade]
19:56.42CIA-22- Create the borders in :OnEnable() instead of :OnInitialize()
19:56.46Tuksim jsut modifing some things from an addond, and its taking me too long :(
19:56.46syeren/rl
19:56.46Josh_BorkeTuks: not if you added a file
19:56.53Tuksi modified
19:56.54syerenOh :p
19:56.56Josh_Borkeyou can do /rl if you're only modifying the contents
19:57.08Tuksthat reloads all addons, or just 1?
19:57.12Josh_Borkeall addons
19:57.15Tuksk
19:57.16Gagorianeverything, but it's still faster
19:57.16Tuksthx
19:57.17Josh_Borkeyou cannot reload just one addon
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20:00.14Saint-Nyou can if you only have 1 addon loaded ;P
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20:00.30Tukssmart :P
20:01.23durcynGagorian: self with no arg, i think you can feed it a name or at least a number
20:01.49TrancerMikk: there.. got Emerald Ripper on my lock now :D
20:02.00Trancergoing to put savagery or mongoose on it or something
20:02.04CIA-2203totalpackage * r42998 10StellarBars/ (. StellarBars.lua StellarBars.toc embeds.xml waves.tga):
20:02.04CIA-22StellarBars
20:02.04CIA-22- added option to change opacity
20:02.04CIA-22- removed some unnecessary external usage
20:02.04CIA-22- increase strata for some frames to prevent some slight clipping
20:02.04CIA-22- now only add percentage to rep bar on mouseover, not everytime it gets updated
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20:06.25Gagoriandurcyn: Not that I know of
20:07.24CorussAntiarc: that would be useful in PvE too, for things like soulstone and shield wall
20:07.33Gnarfozvim users around? how can I quickly make ".php.inc" a recognized filetype so vim highlights it as if it were ".php"?
20:07.54Corusslol rename it to php, edit, rename back
20:07.56Tuksdamn, isRaidLeader is not working :(
20:08.11Tuksany small finction to check if a name is raid leader?
20:08.17Tuksfunction*
20:08.31GnarfozCoruss: yeah... wrong solution, kinda
20:08.38Saint-Nif yer doing it in nautalis, just right click and open as and tick the box that says list this as an open type
20:08.44Corussdidn't say it was ideal, you asked for quick
20:08.47KemayoAntiarc|Work: I didn't see anyone answer your question about passValue -- both PitBull and QuestsFu use it in their color options, though, if you're looking for an example.
20:08.59Antiarc|WorkYeah, found one
20:09.24Saint-Nerr open with
20:09.29NightHawkAtWorkGnarfoz: ".php.inc"? wtf kind of extention is that? If it's php file it should have a .php extention :p
20:09.45Saint-Nits var settings include file for php ;P
20:09.54kebinusanHow would I go about adding a PT set for flasks since there doesnt seem to be one?
20:09.54Saint-Nusually config.php.inc
20:09.58GnarfozNightHawkAtWork: you know full well why it has a different extension, from the extension, do you not? :p
20:10.08Gnarfozlike Saint-N does ;)
20:10.25CIA-2203cryect * r42999 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Reduces the calls to :FindUnit
20:10.30Gnarfozit's to prevent direct execution, just in case
20:10.49Antiarc|WorkOy...when you use a cooldown, you have to scan the entire spellbook to find which one?
20:10.52NightHawkAtWorkMeh, i'd just go and name it ".inc.php" but I really dislike the ".inc" extention alltogether, its silly
20:11.14Gnarfoz-.-
20:11.24Gnarfoz"I don't like" = "silly" :p
20:11.47Saint-Nhe's from the deptartment of redundancy department
20:11.59Gnarfozheh
20:12.03durcynstrange, and here i thought relying on a bullshit arbitrary string suffix to identify data was silly.
20:12.38durcynmetadata in the file name, how quaint.
20:13.01Saint-Ntechni9cally though gnar you CAN rename it to whatever you want just make sure all the .php's that call it know it has a new name
20:13.06NightHawkAtWorklike hungarian notation?
20:13.30Gnarfoz~x en de quaint
20:13.43Saint-Nhah
20:13.46Saint-Nthats awesome
20:13.46GnarfozI'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not :p
20:13.49KemayoWhat's bad is that config.php.inc means that (if you're not being careful about location) everyone can view your configuration details.  Which would generally include things like db passwords.
20:14.01Saint-Nof course hes being sarcastic
20:14.14Saint-Nthe only time anyone uses the word quaint is to condescend
20:14.22durcynvery sarcastic.
20:14.27NightHawkAtWorkKemayo: indeed, i had forgotten that.
20:14.52NightHawkAtWorkOf course, i typically try to put include files above the web root
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20:15.11Gnarfozif you have the freedom to do that, of course, that's sane :)
20:15.14Saint-Nand lets not forget the ability of apache to deny access to certain files/ext
20:15.21Saint-Nlike say .htpasswd ;P
20:15.36NightHawkAtWorkthat requires more configuration than just using .php though, which again, can be limited by your environment
20:16.09Saint-N"most" web servers block it
20:16.35Saint-Nthe only ones that dont are either non upgraded installs or people that dont care or noobs that just found out apache can run on thier windows machine ;P
20:17.50Tuks#api GetRaidRosterInfo
20:17.52ThraeBotTuks: name, rank, subgroup, level, class, fileName, zone, online, isDead, role, isML = GetRaidRosterInfo(raidIndex);
20:18.48durcynyou could just use RosterLib >_<
20:18.49NightHawkAtWorkSaint-N: my hosting company doesn't do anything to stop someone from viewing a .inc file, I could easily set up rules to do it, but I don't see much point.
20:19.04Saint-NNightHawkAtWork: wow yer hosting company sucks ;P
20:19.15NightHawkAtWorknah, they're actually pretty good.
20:19.19Saint-Nheh
20:19.29MikkTrancer: woohoo =)
20:19.32NightHawkAtWorkThey just don't do a lot of things for you, instead giving you the ability to do them yourself :P
20:19.40Saint-Nwell thats always better yeah
20:20.35Saint-Nwheeee home time for me, ciao
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20:22.18Corusslucky, cya
20:22.57Corusslunchtime, bbl folka
20:23.11Coruss*folks
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20:28.29CIA-2203gandharva * r43000 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Bloodboil.lua: Threat-1.0: Bloodboil.lua -> deDE localization
20:29.05HjalteAntiarc|Work, I was told some hours ago that I didnt show up on someones KTM when I was using Omen - Could it be that they had an old version?
20:29.30Antiarc|WorkHrm. You should have showed up. Did you have KTM publishing on?
20:29.52alextwell
20:30.00alexti remember at some point the KTM guy made it so omen couldnt send?
20:30.08alextsomethin with the version string?
20:30.36alextis that fixed now?
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20:31.00Antiarc|WorkJust the version string
20:31.08Antiarc|WorkIt's not fixed, but it shouldn't affect most operations
20:31.41HjalteAntiarc|Work, yes, my Omen was set to publish to KTM. Unfortunately I didnt get to ask them what version they were using.
20:32.05Antiarc|WorkHrm. Okay.
20:32.09Antiarc|WorkI'll see what I can find tonight.
20:32.10Fisker-:D?
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20:36.10grzesieqIs there any option to tell Omen not to show up in BGs?
20:36.15kebinusanAnyone know in arkinv how you exclude something
20:36.21CIA-2203morgalm * r43001 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua DKPtracker.lua MorgDKP.lua):
20:36.21CIA-22MorgDKP:
20:36.21CIA-22- added startraid/endraid/attendees to fubar tablet
20:36.22kebinusanlike I dont want to display soul shards at all
20:37.05grzesieqI just switched to baggins :)
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20:46.35NightHawkAtWorkgah, I need to download the svn binaries, i hate tortoise.
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20:51.30CIA-2203adirelle * r43002 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua locale-enUS.lua):
20:51.30CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
20:51.30CIA-22- some more modularization,
20:51.30CIA-22- reminder now works when mounted/flying/in-combat.
20:52.25OminousMikk: ping
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20:53.07OminousMikk: thanks for getting my svn sorted they have now opened the port and it works :)
20:53.21Adirelletrh: any news from SSR ? :p
20:53.57Adirelle(which is not so simple now)
20:55.25trhAdirelle: nil index stuff
20:55.38trhAdirelle: but no error message handy
20:55.38Adirelle:/ where ?
20:55.45trhAdirelle: was in line 1200 something
20:56.53trhAdirelle: if i get the message again i'm gonna paste it =)
20:57.17abyssichateGetting this from latest Violation's revision: [2007/07/06 18:52:07-1360-x61]: Violation-1.0.42869\Violation.lua:1872: table index is nil
20:57.29Adirellehuh... seems I got some borkage in revision :/
20:57.30Adireller12 ???
20:57.39trhAdirelle: yep, was r12
20:58.17CIA-2203adirelle * r43003 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed revision report in about dialog box.
21:02.25Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298944948&sid=1
21:02.28Fisker-UNDERAGE B&
21:02.34CIA-2203ominous * r43004 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: Resets abilites db the make a fix for old abilities which cant be removed showing up
21:02.57Fisker-damn
21:03.02Fisker-thought it was 13+
21:03.06Fisker-Then it's not underage B&
21:03.07Fisker-:(
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21:09.22Josh_Borkebye bye
21:14.16Adirellegonna free some memory
21:14.17Adirellebubye
21:17.09RogueShadowThere's so few people on now that are useful... Nobody is willing to help with anything this time of day.
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21:20.02art3misthats because you don't bathe
21:20.51CIA-2203thexod * r43005 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua:
21:20.51CIA-22ItemValue:
21:20.51CIA-22- Fixed "ItemValue.lua:1405: attempt to call global 'del' (a nil value)" error
21:20.51CIA-22- Fixed inspect value frame settings update
21:21.11trh2x UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage per Event is pretty slow =)
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21:25.26Azurewrathomfg... second try ever on lootreaver and he's down... i heard that he's easy.. but thats a joke..
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21:25.57Fisker-oh man
21:26.13trhAzurewrath: only if your dd's don't suck :(
21:26.29[dRaCo]some say, those trash groups are harder than vr himself
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21:28.37Azurewrath[dRaCo]: it's true..
21:28.54durcynsawblade > voidreaver
21:28.58Azurewrathjup
21:29.56[dRaCo]guess I'm gonna talk my gm into going there, then... went there once and had to cancel like 3 groups before him
21:30.22Ominousohh a ventrillo for linux is coming soon
21:30.23ravagernl~seen gagorian
21:30.27purlgagorian is currently on #wowace (2d 4h 36m 11s). Has said a total of 241 messages. Is idling for 1h 24m 2s, last said: 'durcyn: Not that I know of'.
21:30.40art3misominous thought there was already one
21:30.45art3misor is that just the server
21:30.45ravagernlgagorian: attempt to index global string_match :P
21:30.46MikkOminous: Wanna bet it'll just be for 2.2 compatible servers? The non-free ones?
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21:30.58OminousMikk: :S
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21:31.17OminousMikk: our guild pay anyway
21:31.33Kaeltenarg, weird
21:31.36Kaeltenanyway, back
21:31.42Ominoushey kael
21:31.46Corussfill me in, what did I just walk in on?
21:31.56Fisker-i man
21:31.58Fisker-man i suck
21:32.46Fisker-Some guy claiming that there is a 3GB memory limit on Windows XP, and calling me a bullshitter when i tell him it's 4GB but due to the fact that motherboard usually takes up 512MB and the videocard another 256-768MB
21:33.07Kaelten:s
21:33.34Corusslol I don't remember how many times I've heard this convo
21:33.40Corusslet me crunch some numbers a sec
21:34.01NightHawkAtWork4gb memory limit?
21:34.18Fisker-yeah
21:34.26Fisker-32-Bit Windows XP can only address 4GB memory
21:34.27Mikkwell.. in a 32-bit system, the most memory that one process can conveniently access is 4 gigs
21:34.59Fisker-There was /PAE but microsoft turned that down a notch(from 64GB to 4GB) around when DEP was introduced
21:35.01CIA-2203bam * r43006 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:
21:35.01CIA-22ItemPriceTooltip:
21:35.01CIA-22- Added German localization (thanks to Beutju)
21:35.03trhFisker-: there's a 3gb limit in windows xp of some kind
21:35.20trhFisker-: it might display more, but doesn't use at least 512mb of it
21:35.27Fisker-Not exactly trh :o
21:35.38Kaeltenhrm have you guys heard of bzr?
21:35.40Fisker-There's the 3GB switch, but that was a bug in 2k
21:35.44Fisker-if i remember correctly
21:35.53Fisker-bug/feature however you wanna spin it :P
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21:37.01Fisker-I should install 64-Bit Windows sometime though
21:37.07art3misi swore it was 2gb
21:37.11Corussthere it is
21:37.14trhFisker-: i think the problem was that the pci devices reserve 275MB per card in the area between 3gb-4gb
21:37.20trhin adress lines somehow
21:37.22Corusshttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/291988
21:37.31trhi'm not sure.. it's been a while since we had that in a lecture
21:37.59art3misi swore for the longest that it was 2gb for 32bit and 4gb for 64
21:38.04Corussthat's the article on the PAE switch
21:38.09art3mismaybe im confusing max file size though
21:38.26trhHowever, the memory from 0x80000000 through 0xBFFFFFFF is not usable.
21:38.38trhcitation from the knowledge base article
21:39.07Corussumm
21:39.09trhso there's a 2gb limit
21:39.17trhbut windows can show the user mode programs that it has 3gb
21:39.21trheven though it isn't really useable
21:39.36NightHawkAtWorko_0
21:39.59Corussya, it's 2GB user space, and 2GB kernel space
21:40.09MikkSo, anyway, yeah, no point in getting more than 2 gigs on 32bit windows
21:40.19art3miskind of liek that old windows 98 bug that would only use 768mb regardless of how much you put in it
21:40.34Fisker-wasn't it 512MB actually? :P
21:40.37art3mismikk: more or elss
21:40.41Strigoi|LRhmm is there a way how to disable revision text in Omen?
21:40.50Fisker-can't wait until i find a working image of 64-bit windows
21:40.50MikkStrigoi|LR: no. there won't be until it's stable.
21:40.51Fisker-do want
21:40.56art3misits been so long i dont actually remember, im pretty sure it was an odd number though
21:41.04CorussMikk: not true, for servers having 4GB allows for 2GB dedicated to the kernel, and 2GB for apps
21:41.11MikkStrigoi|LR: it's so people know which version to report when they have problems. this is kinda important since it stil revs several times daily.
21:41.14art3misservers dont count
21:41.16Strigoi|LRMikk nothing bad happens if i disable it manually in lua, right?;p
21:41.21Fisker-i am a server :I
21:41.25Corussas am I
21:41.26art3misservers never count ;P
21:41.30Fisker-a GM bans you Strigoi|LR
21:41.37MikkStrigoi|LR: Antiarc will come bash your kneecaps in :P
21:41.41Fisker-game mechanics etc.
21:41.55Strigoi|LR;>
21:44.39kergothOminous, enable all in one display on all the units, display the all in one at ht efocus anchor.  lock/unlock.  the player/target/pet anchor / fake bars still float around at that point, and whne they hit a time of 0 they just sit there, never going away. have to /rl to clear it
21:44.48kergothOminous, minor, but wanted to let you know about it, probably a simple fix
21:45.08Ominouskergoth: ok thanks
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21:48.38NeoTronit'd be nice if WAU could make a Ace2Libs meta-addon for all externals and keep each individual addon external-free
21:48.50NeoTronfor each external used by the installed addons I mean
21:49.09kergothitd be nice if eternals werent a big hack and an afterthought
21:49.09art3mishah reel big fish is awesome
21:49.21art3misthier new album is Monkeys for Nothing and the Chimps are Free
21:49.27kergothhehe
21:49.51NeoTronI just don't like having a ton of library addons but prefer not to embed :P
21:50.14art3misid much rather have lib addons than embedded
21:50.29art3misthe idea that one wrong revision somwhere getting loaded can fuck things up makes me sad
21:50.38NeoTronI'd rather have a single addon than many
21:50.46art3misoh a single lib?
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21:50.55art3misthat would be kinna good
21:50.59art3miscompeltely LoD
21:51.08art3misin fragments
21:51.13art3misso it only laoded the functions it needed
21:51.17art3misloaded
21:52.40Dottedlike that AutoLOD sylvanaar invented?
21:53.24art3misdidnt see it
21:53.36NeoTronbasically keep the libs and addons separated while not having 4711 lib addons in the addon list
21:53.48art3misoh thats kind of neat
21:53.48CIA-2203ominous * r43007 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fix for grouping bars and locking
21:53.54Ominouskergoth: done, unteasted
21:53.55art3misi was thinking a bit more detailed
21:54.09art3miskind like say tak the math lib
21:54.24art3misif the addon does math it loads up the sections it neds
21:54.28NeoTroncan you partially load an addon?
21:54.29art3misor string manip
21:54.31art3misyeah
21:54.35art3miswell sorta
21:54.41NeoTronhow does that work? loadfile is disabled isn't it?
21:54.59art3misyou can "cache" it like the Lod moduels
21:55.03art3mismodules
21:55.20art3misso instead of pulling the whole thing in like say ALL the tables of PT3
21:55.33kergothOminous, thanks
21:55.35art3misif the addon only cared about crafting it would only load that part?
21:55.41art3misalthough i may be confused
21:55.59art3misbut thats essentially what i mean
21:56.21NeoTronnever the less on the simplest level, WAU would be able to download all ace addons and put all the externals needed into one meta-module (that WAU creates/maintains)
21:56.34art3misndos
21:56.35art3misnods
21:56.51art3misembedded to me sorta breaks the whole idea of having libraries
21:56.52NeoTronat least then you get the load time benefit without the addon bloat  (but still don't get the per-lib profiling possiblities)
21:57.11art3misload it ocne and be done with it
21:57.13art3misonce
21:57.40NeoTronI need to redo my UI from start I think
21:57.46NeoTronjust start fresh and pick in what I need
21:57.51art3misyeah i did that the other day too
21:58.10art3misonce the DUF stuff from mazzle broke i just wiped and redid it
22:00.59Strigoi|LRis there an addon which allows to create profile for all ace addons at once? ala ace1 addons
22:01.16ravagernlgah someone fix the string_match error in drdamage's hunter module
22:01.19NeoTronI heard mazzle ui forcefully changes default key bindings around and stuff
22:01.31ravagernl[2007/07/06 23:35:37-1101-x8]: DrDamage-1.1.9\Data\Hunter.lua:56: attempt to call global 'string_match' (a nil value)
22:02.30Strigoi|LRMikk c'mo i'm sure you know the answer ;D
22:02.34Strigoi|LR*n
22:03.29sylvanaarNeoTron what are you talking about
22:04.07NeoTronmazzleui
22:04.32NeoTronor the addon external stuff?
22:05.16art3misyeah mazzle is evil
22:05.37art3misits a nice design but the forced keybind remaps are annoying
22:06.52NeoTronI'd like something that is clean and such
22:06.59NeoTronbut I really don't want my keybindings messed with
22:07.00Kaeltencan anyone commit atm?
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22:08.14art3misNeoTron: yer better off picking the stuff you like and making a box or soemthing with eepanels
22:08.27art3mismazzle has a lot of addons that are annoying ;P
22:08.40art3mismostly personal choice mind you
22:08.42art3misbut still
22:08.58art3mislike bongos or arkinv
22:09.04art3misshitty button layouts
22:09.10art3misno bt3
22:09.18art3misetc etc etc
22:09.23NeoTronI'm artistically challeneged :P
22:09.36NeoTronand still don't have a satisfactory way to arrange minimap icons
22:09.36art3misthe only thing i REALLY like about it is the dart and duf stuff
22:09.44art3mismini button bag ;P
22:09.56sylvanaarNeoTron there was once an abomination !!!Libs which was an aggregate of externals. The best solution to date is NoExt + AutoDeps
22:10.00art3misputs em all in a straight line only showing when you click the one button thats left
22:10.26NeoTronsylvanaar: nah that was ALL libs. I am talking about all libs used. I don't want "externals" since they pollute the addon list
22:10.41art3misNeoTron: at least they're labeled nice now though
22:10.43NeoTronart3mis: ace2?
22:10.50NeoTronthat is true
22:10.51CIA-2203antiarc * r43008 10HiveMind/ (7 files): HiveMind: Initial commit; a modular addon for coordinating arena teams. Nowhere near anything remotely resembling the slightest shred of anything even barely usable.
22:10.52art3misumm don't think so
22:11.03art3misi think i got it offa wowi or ui
22:11.03NeoTrondoes autodeps uninstall externals you no longer use?
22:11.18sbuAntiarc: coordinating?
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22:11.38Antiarc|WorkSharing cooldown status and automatic "hay purge this person" stuff at the moment
22:11.43Antiarc|WorkMore as I think of it. :P
22:12.03sylvanaarNeoTron well, no, it doesnt. But you can install !!!SAL, then uninstall it. Which will remove all libraries. the next time you update, you will download only those which you use
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22:12.04Antiarc|Work(complete with secure buttons so you just click someone's name to purge their target. :D)
22:12.14art3mis## Title: MinimapButtonBag (0.412)
22:12.38art3missyl
22:12.44art3misis what i was talking about possible?
22:12.51Antiarc|WorkGonna work on some kind of PerfectTargets sort of module that includes CC status
22:12.52art3mishe part about loading partials
22:13.00art3misor breaking the libs into tiny parts
22:13.05sylvanaarpartial LoD?
22:13.09Antiarc|WorkBasically, automating all the crap that you'd normally do over voice comms for each match.
22:13.10art3misso you only load the parts you use?
22:13.11art3misyeah
22:13.27sylvanaarwell, prat does something like that
22:13.40art3mispt3 as example if a crafting mod loads it would only need the parts sections
22:13.56art3misso thats all that would get laoded istead of parts food water etc
22:14.13art3misand then only load sections on a request needed basis?
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22:15.47Antiarc|Workhttp://www.horserentals.com/virginia.html
22:15.51Antiarc|WorkAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah
22:15.53sylvanaarwell, in pt3's case its probably just a design issue
22:15.54CIA-2203sayclub * r43009 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update
22:16.16Antiarc|WorkThat site physically hurts my eyes.
22:16.28Ominouskaelten: is the syntax script up atm?
22:16.28art3misthat was just an example
22:16.34sylvanaaror, addons are still using OptDeps - which they should not be
22:16.42art3misbut you get what i mean by it right?
22:16.45KaeltenOminous: which one?
22:16.55Kaeltenthe one that does a compile check?
22:16.56Kaeltenno
22:17.00Ominousoku
22:17.01Ominousoki*
22:17.09Tullerhrm
22:17.14Kaeltencan anyone else not commit do to commit notes?
22:17.22art3misi cant
22:17.23NeoTronart3mis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html
22:17.28Antiarc|WorkI was just able to, Kaelten
22:17.30Kaelten:s
22:17.33art3misthats partially because i dont have an account or make addons though ;P
22:17.37sbuAntiarc|Work: mhh you cant hide omen anymore?
22:17.41KaeltenI'm trying with cgProfiler: Stuff and it won't let me
22:17.42art3misneio: yup
22:17.42Antiarc|WorkYou should be able to, why?
22:17.50sbuit shows up as soon you target enemy units
22:17.56sbu+as
22:18.10sbueven with active when solo disabled
22:18.12Antiarc|WorkOh, that's intended, but the showing not being respected is a bug
22:18.14art3misNeoTron: that and buttonhole are awesome for lots of minimap buttons
22:18.17Kaelten<PROTECTED>
22:18.20Kaeltenthats my message
22:18.25Kaeltenbut I'm gettinga bug
22:18.31Kaeltenbut I think it may be erroring some how
22:19.08art3misonly major downside of it compared to the otehr one is that mbb only does straight lines, i believe buttonhole allows you to arrange them or rather rememebrs where you put them if you use mobility to move em around
22:19.51art3misbut if you mobility it to a lcoation its a line from whereever the mbb button is
22:20.03HealthIs there any way to determin raid vs. battleground/arena raid?
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22:20.09NeoTrona line is probably ok as I don't have many
22:20.11NeoTronwith fubar
22:20.25NeoTronbut the one I have now just lets me freely move them, so they are never quite lined up
22:20.27art3misyou can choose the direction of the line too
22:20.29NeoTronwhich bugs me :)
22:20.58art3misheh yeah thats why i ended up with mbb ;P
22:21.25art3mismaff+moveanything at least outlines right but sometimes the button sizes werent the same so it lined up wierd
22:21.46NeoTronbuttonhole seems to be abandonware
22:21.52art3misyup
22:22.04sylvanaarart3mis you can get LoD like behavour by just putting if THIS_FILE_LOADED then return end else THIS_FILE_LOADED = true end
22:22.12CIA-2203kaelten * r43010 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.lua profile/profile.lua):
22:22.12CIA-22cgProfiler -
22:22.12CIA-22- a couple of tweaks
22:22.40art3missyl hrm..
22:22.51art3misim just talking aloud mainly
22:22.56art3misthat would be spiffy
22:22.59Kaeltenhad to load up eclipse and do it through their stuff
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22:24.23sylvanaarart3mis thats what prat does (it also prevents the same module from being loaded twice too)
22:24.36art3misyeah!
22:25.00art3misall libs should be called and function that way
22:27.00sylvanaarwell - the way external libs work now is perfect, you can disable all of them, and only the ones you actually use will be enabled and loaded
22:27.30Ominouswhat is a good irc prog to use on linux?
22:28.05sylvanaarbut OptionalDeps need to be removed, as they force libraries to be loaded much earlier than they need to be
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22:28.46sylvanaarchatzilla?
22:29.09ThorgardOminous, irssi
22:29.39CIA-2203roartindon * r43011 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Added average/maximum details for hit details
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22:33.41Strigoi|LRKaelten is there any way to create\set profile for all ace2 add-ons at once, like it used to be with ace?
22:34.03Kaeltener... honestly. I don't think so
22:34.26HjalteMy esc button doesnt work, all of a sudden oO
22:34.32HjalteIn wow. Quite bad.
22:34.33GagorianIs there a way to get unmodified weapon attack speed? I just realized normalized attacks with weapon damage will be a problem currently if there's weapon speed boosts on not accounted by haste
22:34.41Gagorian(like S&D)
22:35.12Gagorian(and tooltip scanning is bad -_-)
22:35.27Strigoi|LRKaelten hehe, thanks for answer , well kinda pity but I can live with it ;p
22:36.12Antiarc|WorkGagorian: Why would that be a problem?
22:36.14Strigoi|LRsometimes when you tweaking your UI takes loads of time to create *backup* profiles for all ace addons
22:36.32Antiarc|WorkWeapon damage isn't modified by haste, and normalization values are constant.
22:36.47sylvanaarsounds like a good addon idea
22:37.01sylvanaarprofile manager
22:37.46GagorianAntiarc|Work: Because.. mindamage = min/mod + (AP / 14) * (normM-spd)
22:38.01Gagorianbut spd wont be base speed, it will be the modified one
22:38.09Gagorianhence, normalization will give moar boost
22:38.19Gagorian(or reduction)
22:38.38Antiarc|WorkMaybe I'm confused, but mindamage should be min + (AP/14*normM) + static
22:39.03GagorianMin includes normal ws boost
22:39.03Antiarc|Workie, SS on a 150-200 weapon with 1400 AP is 150 + (100 * 2.4) + 68
22:39.14Gagorianmin aint weapon base :l
22:39.31Antiarc|WorkI'm confused then
22:40.01GagorianI can't get weapon base without relying on UnitDamage, so if I had gotten base that way it would be wrong
22:41.07Bibihttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/visionsargeras.jpg
22:41.08Bibi:D
22:41.14CIA-2203gagorian * r43012 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
22:41.14CIA-22DrDamage:
22:41.14CIA-22- Added DPS, DPS(CD), +1% hit, +1% crit, +100 AP to tooltip
22:41.14CIA-22- Added calculations to white melee on 'Attack'
22:41.32art3mislaugh
22:41.34nevcairiellol nice item
22:41.56Antiarc|Workweapon base = UnitDamage - (AP / 14 * weapon speed), unless I'm mistaken
22:42.02art3misShades O' Demon Doom was taken ;)
22:42.17GagorianAntiarc|Work: That would work, if I got the real weapon speed, not the modified one
22:42.22Antiarc|WorkOoh. Right.
22:42.26Gagorian[01:38:43] <Gagorian> Is there a way to get unmodified weapon attack speed? I just realized normalized attacks with weapon damage will be a problem currently if there's weapon speed boosts on not accounted by haste
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22:42.32GagorianThat brings us back to my original question :)
22:42.54Antiarc|Work#api UnitAttackBothHands
22:42.55ThraeBotAntiarc|Work: mainBase, mainMod, offBase, offMod = UnitAttackBothHands(unit);
22:43.00Antiarc|WorkSomething like that?
22:43.07GagorianThat's weapon skill
22:43.09Antiarc|WorkOh.
22:43.10Gagorian:(
22:43.12Antiarc|Work:(
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22:43.16CIA-2203phyber * r43013 10Fizzle/Inspect.lua:
22:43.16CIA-22Fizzle:
22:43.16CIA-22- Inspect: Also add Tabard colouring here.
22:43.20GagorianBasically, I got an idea
22:43.27GagorianBut it might not cover everything
22:43.34art3misuh oh
22:43.42Antiarc|WorkYou might just need to scan the tooltip when the inventory changes.
22:43.46Antiarc|WorkSorta ugly, but eh. It works.
22:43.48GagorianNooooes
22:44.14GagorianI was thinking I cache weapon speed results.. if they change when player gets a buff/debuff then I use the old value
22:44.25Gagorian(higher one)
22:44.42Gagorianthat would cover S&D, and stuff.
22:44.57GagorianThen I can get haste rating from the API, so that's no problem
22:45.19GagorianThe problem is if I get speed without any visible buff/haste. Is there anything?
22:45.20Antiarc|WorkYeah, I was just thinking that too
22:45.42Antiarc|WorkThe only haste buffs I can think of are the abacus, dragonspine, SnD, Blade Flurry, Mongoose procs
22:45.46Antiarc|WorkBut those are all buffs
22:46.06Antiarc|WorkI think that all but SnD are plain old haste buffs, too
22:46.10Antiarc|WorkErr, and BF
22:46.19Antiarc|WorkThere's Windsor's Frenze in BRD too
22:46.23Antiarc|WorkBut that's a waaay corner case
22:46.27Antiarc|Work(also my favorite buff ever)
22:46.33Gagorian:P
22:46.34Antiarc|WorkOh, and Heroism/Bloodlust
22:47.12GagorianHmm, new problem. How do I separate haste gained from items (static) and buffs.
22:48.25GagorianI could use the highest return until unit inventory changes and remove lowest haste rating
22:48.25Gagorian:D
22:48.36Antiarc|WorkWhy do you need to do that?
22:48.37GagorianOh yes, that's it
22:48.44Antiarc|WorkThere are haste enchants, like the old Libram
22:48.46Antiarc|WorkSo be aware of that
22:48.52Antiarc|Work+10 to pants/head, I think
22:49.19GagorianThe problem is that.. if I cache results before buffs/debuffs that change it. And the user has static + buff haste
22:49.29GagorianI won't know how much to reduce
22:49.52GagorianSo I'll just cache lowest haste rating (static) and highest weapon speed until inventory changes
22:50.19Gagorianshould be fine -_-
22:50.50Antiarc|WorkIf you just scanned the tooltip all these problems would go away. :P
22:51.32art3misbut anti
22:51.42art3misthats why they designed the Hemi ;P
22:51.44GagorianAntiarc|Work: I hate scanning tooltips
22:51.52art3misbecause the old way was ugly ;P
22:52.00Antiarc|WorkGagorian: I do too, but I also hate farming for cash, but I do it anyway! :D
22:52.10GagorianBut, in this case it's probably more efficient come to think of it
22:52.17GagorianIt's only done on changes anyway :P
22:52.29art3misAntiarc|Work: you just need to get yer wife pregnant so you can train yer parasites to farm for you for allowance
22:52.30Antiarc|WorkExactly
22:52.39Antiarc|WorkGagorian: You might want to special-case hunters
22:52.51Antiarc|WorkSince their inventory changes with every shot. :/
22:53.03GagorianI have a method to check for real changes already
22:53.20Antiarc|Workhttp://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22027487-5001024,00.html?from=public_rss
22:53.34art3miscouldnt you pull from that character sheet?
22:53.46Antiarc|Workinventory = character sheet, in API terms
22:53.51art3misoh
22:54.22CIA-2203adirelle * r43014 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua locale-enUS.lua):
22:54.22CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
22:54.22CIA-22- fixed format error,
22:54.22CIA-22- mouse wheel binding should working properly when unmounting/unstealthing.
22:54.44GagorianAntiarc|Work, on inventory changed I check if any crucial damage stats changed with a few calls.. then update
22:54.58Gandharva200DPS Warri -> http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=42942&mirror=1
22:55.06Gandharva*2000DPS
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22:56.31Chompersi'd love to try fury for a week or two
22:56.35Chompersjust to see what it's like
22:56.55Antiarc|Workhttp://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-real-.n-sync/human-pixels-perform-huge-real+time-animation-275689.php
22:56.56art3misgood god
22:57.04art3misthats kind iof scary
22:57.42GandharvaChompers: I specced 20/41 yesterday ;)
22:58.06Chompersdual wielding?
22:58.12Gandharva2H
22:58.19Chompersaaah, i remember you saying
22:58.23Chompershow's that working out for you?
22:59.37HjalteCan anyone explain to me, why my escape key, opening the menu and more importantly cancels my attacks, suddenly stops working? I just checked my keybindings and the escape key is still bound and it even worked in the keybinding menu.
22:59.39GandharvaSunday is our next 25 man raid. But I like it so far. PvP was quite ok. But I don't do much PvP these days.
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23:01.06Chompersmy first kara with a BM hunter+ench shaman
23:01.22Chompersit's really nice being in the top 3 dps :P
23:01.37GandharvaDid you guys watch the stream? What addon does this flash on his buttons?
23:02.01CIA-2203sayclub * r43015 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: koKR Update
23:02.26deltronholy shit
23:02.33deltronlook at how much he's spamming buttons
23:02.36deltronthat is INSANE
23:03.14GandharvaDW fury is stressful
23:03.32XuerianWhat stream are we talking about again? >.>
23:03.40Gandharvahttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=42942&mirror=1
23:04.00charonHjalte: happened to me a few times, couldn't find a real reason why. i think remapping or relogging helped
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23:04.18GandharvaI need this button flash! :)
23:04.34Hjaltecharon: with remapping, do you mean going to the keybindings menu and rebinding it?
23:04.47charonyes
23:04.51XuerianGandharva: Is it a flash when things cooldown? (Haven't updated/loaded yet)
23:05.00GagorianAntiarc|Work: Can there be any other numbers on tooltip right side than speed?
23:05.01Antiarc|WorkIs that an extra-damage fight or something?
23:05.11GandharvaXuerian: yes
23:05.15Antiarc|WorkGagorian: Not off of the top of my head, nag
23:05.17Antiarc|Worknah*
23:05.33XuerianGandharva: The old cooldown mod tuller made (I think) did that. Have you checked if OmniCC has that option?
23:05.40Antiarc|WorkJust make sure you check it's a weapon
23:05.46Antiarc|WorkOr you might be like AC values for a shield or something
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23:05.55Antiarc|Work(Though I have to say a 6k speed weapon woul be awesome)
23:06.30deltronjust noticed they're using all ace mods
23:06.30deltronheh
23:06.36deltronomen, violation, etc
23:06.44art3misheh
23:06.47charonAntiarc|Work: how so? raid heals you for nearly two hours before you finally one-shot the mob? ;)
23:06.52art3misuse Ace2 and your guild can be awesome!
23:07.01art3mistahts the New Ace2 slogan
23:07.07deltronlol
23:07.13Antiarc|Workcharon: First attack doesn't have to tick through the swing timer!
23:07.24Antiarc|Workthen you just weaponswap and your swing timer is up again :D
23:07.32charonoh
23:08.18charonsometimes even two things but that gets me rather tired ;)
23:08.21Antiarc|WorkHahaha, Gandharva
23:08.23charongn8 all
23:08.26Antiarc|WorkDid you notice the threat meter in that video?
23:09.17deltronhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek'nilash&n=Svag
23:09.22CIA-2203nevcairiel * r43016 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (15 files in 7 dirs): Threat-1.0: added svn:keywords on all NPCModules
23:09.57GandharvaAntiarc|Work: of course
23:10.05Antiarc|Work:D
23:11.05pakozi believe akama has agro
23:11.17pakozso dps warrior with windufry str totem can go all out
23:11.28pakozand with the incoming damage he has more rage than normal
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23:12.45Antiarc|Work2k DPS is just insanity though.
23:13.00art3misyeah
23:13.01pakozput 2k dps on anything and your dead
23:13.03art3misthats some crazy damage
23:13.10Chompershow does the tank keep up
23:13.14pakozhe doesnt
23:13.17Antiarc|WorkI'm not the best-geared rogue on the raid scene - mostly Kara gear + 3 pieces of tier 4 - but I can only manage half of that at full tilt.
23:13.17pakozits a tankless fight
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23:13.28Chompersnot seen the video yet, so don't know
23:13.28pakozthose adds he is killing
23:13.42pakozare banishing shade of akama
23:13.47pakozso they dont move
23:14.00art3misakama went down pretty fast
23:14.01pakozshade of akama is tanked by an npc
23:14.07pakozhe only has 1mil hp
23:14.10pakozopposed to gruuls 4min
23:14.12pakoz4mil*
23:14.31pakozi'd like to see the recap stats on the fight tho
23:14.35GandharvaAntiarc|Work: ~1150 is my best in SSC so far
23:14.46pakozshe had an ideal party
23:14.47Chompershow'd i find out?
23:14.51Antiarc|WorkI tend to sit at about 1050 on Magtheridon right now
23:15.01pakozenchance shaman and a feral druid
23:15.10pakozcouldnt have a better scenario
23:15.12Chompers+bm hunter
23:15.18XuerianGandharva: Was that it?
23:15.23pakozthey're might even be a curse of recklessness up
23:15.29pakozfor max phys dmg
23:15.32JaxonAnd a survival hunter in the raid would put him over the top.
23:15.33pakozi didnt look for a blodo frenzy
23:15.38ravagernlshe doesn't have trueshot aura
23:15.38GandharvaAntiarc|Work: without shami it goes down to ~750
23:15.40pakozsurvival hunter doesnt do too much
23:15.46Antiarc|WorkYeah, same here
23:15.51Antiarc|WorkEnhance shammies make me very very hapy
23:15.55pakozya
23:15.58Jaxonpakoz: the deep tree has some good physical debuff stuff.
23:16.09pakozexpose armor is like 250ap right?
23:16.22pakozand they are beating up on clothies too
23:16.32GandharvaXuerian: I think it's not OmniCC he uses
23:16.38pakozyou'll also see an ele shaman at #2
23:16.47pakozerm
23:16.50pakozenhance*
23:16.57pakozthey also have threat issues
23:17.38GandharvaOur top DDler are BM hunters. They do insane DPS in all fights.
23:17.40Chomperswhatever is making his actionbar buttons glow is awesome
23:17.42Chompersand i want it now
23:17.46XuerianCooldownCount maybe
23:17.53GandharvaChompers: me too ^^
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23:19.22ravagernlchompers: its in photek'scompilation
23:19.28Chomperseaugh
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23:19.40jwwpuaGagorian: you around?
23:19.43ravagernlbecause thats what she uses
23:19.43Chompersi hate custom made compilations
23:19.59pakoz;x
23:20.45ravagernlwell most of the addons in photek are what I'm already using
23:20.49pakozya you cant ask for a better fury warrior fight
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23:21.04pakozbeing able to cleave, no threat issues bm hunter lotp windfury
23:21.13Chompersyup, it's perfect
23:21.14ravagernlchompers:yeah its cooldowncount
23:21.16pakozvery little aoe dmg
23:21.17GagorianWhat was the regexp escape character?
23:21.24Gagorianjwwpua: Yar
23:21.25Jaxon\
23:21.30Chompers/cc shine on
23:21.32pakozallowing for deathwish the whole time
23:21.38pakozrather at any time
23:21.45Chompersi've had this addon for ages and never actually done a /cc
23:21.56ravagernllol :P
23:22.06ravagernlI'm quite used to imnicc's pulse now
23:22.10ravagernlomni**
23:22.20ChompersDrDamage-1.1.9\Melee.lua:613: attempt to index local 'baseAction' (a nil value)
23:23.04pakozalso not to mention on top of all that
23:23.05GagorianChompers: crap, line numbers have changed. :P
23:23.08GandharvaIt's CooldownCount. Thanks Xuerian!
23:23.10pakozshes got damn near the very best gear available
23:23.17Chompershttp://ace.pastey.net/70419
23:23.34ChompersDrDamage-1.1.9\Melee.lua:607: attempt to index local 'baseAction' (a nil value)
23:23.38XuerianGandharva: Heheh, Gift of the Naaru hadn't cooled down for me yet. lol. Glad to help.
23:23.41Chompersif you want the pasty of that one too, let me know
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23:23.56pakozoh also
23:23.58pakozshe used recklessness
23:24.02pakoz20% more incoming damage
23:24.05pakozall crits
23:24.06pakoz30min CD
23:24.11Antiarc|WorkSo I'm going through these videos
23:24.15Antiarc|WorkAnd like...everyone is using Omen
23:24.21Antiarc|WorkI'm watching a DnT video using Omen
23:24.24Antiarc|Work\m/
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23:24.31pakozdid you make omen ;3?
23:24.33art3misyay \o/
23:24.35HjalteForte is using Omen too.
23:24.37Chompersawesome Antiarc
23:24.45art3mishehe
23:24.48Chomperseveryone loves the multi threat
23:24.52art3misthats really all ya need
23:24.53pakozya
23:24.59XuerianAntiarc is teh win.
23:24.59art3mistop guilds using omen in thier videos
23:25.04art3misinstead of ktm ;P
23:25.15Antiarc|WorkYeah, I'm the Omen authro
23:25.19pakoznice
23:25.20trhAntiarc: you should advertise with it :) "TOP GUILD TRUST IN OMEN!" ;)
23:25.24Antiarc|WorkHeh
23:25.26art3misthats a big "suck it kenco" right there
23:25.40pakozdo you have a list of encounters programmed into omen?
23:25.43Chompersmore pressure though Antiarc
23:25.53pakozfor example the agro wipe on hydro
23:25.59XuerianTechnically, it's ThreatLib that does the magic, but Antiarc headed that one up too, right? :P
23:26.11trhyep
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23:26.13Antiarc|WorkYeah, sure do.
23:26.19pakozwhere at <3?
23:26.24Antiarc|WorkThreatLib's mostly mine, but there have been a bunch of people that worked on that.
23:26.28Antiarc|WorkCheck under NPCModules, pakoz
23:26.37GagorianChompers: weird
23:26.41Antiarc|WorkSo I just term myself project lead, because I most certainly didn't do it alone :D
23:26.54ChompersGagorian:  http://ace.pastey.net/70420
23:26.58art3misanti
23:27.04art3misthis is the aprt where you take credit
23:27.06art3mispart
23:27.20art3misyou only share that others helped if someone is blaming you ;)
23:27.28art3missee how this works?
23:27.30break19art3mis: you must work for MS
23:27.35GandharvaAntiarc|Work: Nihilum uses KTM
23:27.42art3misnot at all ;P
23:27.43Chomperswell they suck
23:27.45Antiarc|WorkYeah =)
23:27.48Antiarc|WorkEJ too
23:28.00Antiarc|WorkNurfed does as well
23:28.04art3misthats only because they havent discovered the joy that is Omen+Threatlib
23:28.06XuerianIt's worked for them for a long time
23:28.19art3misheh speaking of nurfed
23:28.21XuerianI don't really blame them for not picking up something that is still technically alpha/beta
23:28.23trhyeah.. it's pretty stable.. but mostly due to the lack of features
23:28.25Chomperscan't blame them, Threat isn't ready yet
23:28.26Antiarc|WorkKTM does a fine job
23:28.29art3misdid you see that cheesey crap about a wedding on thier page?
23:28.34Antiarc|WorkIt's just a bit of a hog.
23:28.39trh(multi threat is pretty complicated with multiple localizations)
23:28.56Antiarc|WorkNo kidding, trh :P
23:29.08Antiarc|WorkThreat's pretty close to production-ready for US guilds, I think
23:29.09nevcairielheh
23:29.10ravagernlIt's Threat-1.0 not Threatlib :P
23:29.17Antiarc|WorkI'm still chasing multi-locale bugs though
23:29.17trhdamn.. i can't figure out what's eating memory in my UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT event :(
23:29.22Antiarc|WorkThreatLib is a perfectly acceptable moniker :P
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23:29.46Xuerianravagernl: Stop it with the -X.x additions already, they make my head hurt
23:29.53ravagernlwhaha :P
23:30.06XuerianAND NO COMMENTS ABOUT MY BRANCHES COMMITS
23:30.08ravagernlNote the addition of a smilie ;)
23:30.14art3misshould call the whole project Operation Playground Bully ;P
23:30.33Ominoushow do you stop a daemon service from running?
23:30.38art3miskill
23:30.51nevcairielcall the init script with "stop" attached :P
23:30.51ravagernlxuerian is just the loot guy.
23:30.54art3misor check etc/init.d
23:31.01Antiarc|Workafk writing Xuerian-2.0
23:31.14art3misand do what nev says ;P
23:31.42NightHawkAtWork"service <service name> stop" ? :P
23:31.56art3misdepends on the distro night
23:32.01NightHawkAtWorkyeah
23:32.05CIA-2203kaelten * r43018 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: Updating TOC Rev
23:32.10XuerianOminous: That's a good point technically, what OS are you running <_<
23:32.11NightHawkAtWorkbut most distros have something equally similar
23:32.15Ominouslinux
23:32.20art3miskill -HUP pid works fine too ;P
23:32.30art3miswhat service?
23:32.32NightHawkAtWorkand google probably has all the answers.
23:33.01Jaxonkill -9 pid   the "not nice" way of tellings things to fuck off.
23:33.03art3miscd /etc/init.d/
23:33.07Jaxonkill -HUP would work okay too
23:33.07art3mishehe jax
23:33.11ravagernlantiarc|work:request for having omen inactive in AV though, an option that is (wich could be off by default)
23:33.17art3misls
23:33.23art3misfind servicename.sh
23:33.26GnarfozXuerian: http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ ?
23:33.34art3mis./servicename.sh stop
23:33.39XuerianGnarfoz: Yeahthat.
23:34.09Antiarc|WorkI'll see what I can do, ravagernl
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23:34.34art3misthats awesome
23:34.42art3misTHAT and adventureshell == win
23:35.10Ominousart3mis, there is no init.d folder
23:35.25art3misrc.local ?
23:35.43art3miswhat service is it?
23:35.50art3misthat yer trying to make go away
23:36.12Ominousventrilo_srv;s one
23:36.16Ominousventrilo_srv's one*
23:36.24art3misps ax|grep vent
23:36.28art3miskill -HUP pid
23:36.38art3misthats the easy way ;P
23:36.55Jaxonkillall takes process names
23:36.58NightHawkAtWorkprobably not the best way though
23:37.15Chompersany luck finding that error Gagorian?
23:37.36Jaxon-HUP doesn't force anything off, it just askes the pid to stop
23:37.57art3misHangUP
23:37.59durcynhangup isn't a stop signal, it's a restart.
23:37.59break19hmm, how much mana to int, for a druid?
23:38.20durcyntry sigstop (3) first, failing that send sigterm (9)
23:38.24NightHawkAtWorkbreak19: 15:1 for all classes
23:38.31break19kk tnx
23:38.31CIA-2203sayclub * r43019 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated koKR
23:38.46Ominousart3mis, thanks!
23:39.05CIA-2203adirelle * r43020 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
23:39.05CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
23:39.05CIA-22- properly bind/unbind mousewheel when coming in and out of stealth, and when (un)mounting,
23:39.05CIA-22- handle "mount-friendly" buffs like trackings and crusader aura.
23:39.07Garounhmm, someone took the ag_unitframes from the ace ftp and uploaded an editted version to curse
23:39.13art3misstill might wanna find where its storing yer startup services though
23:39.18Garounnot cool but at least they don't take credit for it
23:39.42Ominousart3mis: its not setup to start at startup atm
23:39.48art3misoh
23:39.51art3misalrighty then ;P
23:40.42art3misoh btw ominous
23:40.57art3misusing wine or crossover you can run ventrilo in nix ;)
23:41.01art3misnot the server
23:41.04art3misthe client
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23:42.55Ominousits a pain to get to work tho :)
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23:46.30sag_ich_nichti claim to have the best omen aggro warning sound in existance
23:46.47sag_ich_nichtbarrel roll
23:46.48sag_ich_nichterm
23:46.55hyperChipmunkis it my mom yelling at you?
23:46.57sag_ich_nichthttp://starfox64.baldninja.com/wav/peproll1.wav
23:46.57Xueriansag_ich_nicht: BACK TO 4CHAN
23:47.01sag_ich_nichtXuerian: what
23:47.23Xuerian.... >_o
23:47.28sag_ich_nichtXuerian: 1. rules 1 & 2. 2. i was joking around with "do a barrel roll" long before that meme
23:47.57Xueriansag_ich_nicht: ... damn you.
23:48.10sag_ich_nichtno, damn you, for breaking rules.
23:48.21Xuerian>.<
23:48.25sag_ich_nicht~whalestab Xuerian
23:48.26purlACTION stabs Xuerian with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
23:48.40art3miswhat do we want?
23:48.42art3misfry's dog
23:48.47art3miswhen do we want it?
23:48.49art3misfry's dog
23:48.55sag_ich_nicht[01:48] <Xuerian> >.< <--weaboo. DIAF ASAP pls
23:48.59abuglawl the protected CastSpellByName works without a hardware trigger
23:49.02sag_ich_nicht;P
23:49.21sag_ich_nichtabug wait what.
23:49.26Xuerian^
23:50.21*** part/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42)
23:50.51abughttp://code.google.com/p/abugaddons/
23:51.10abugI found a way to call protected functions unsecurely
23:51.30sag_ich_nichtoh you've got to be kidding me.
23:51.52abugand they're even better than the ones we had before, because they don't seem to need hardware events
23:52.05sag_ich_nichtthat looks complexe.
23:52.06sag_ich_nicht-e
23:52.09abugyou could literally right a full bot in lua
23:52.13abugwrite even
23:52.38Xuerian"The exploits that are now shortly going to be patched would've been more orgasm-worthy than their predecessors"
23:53.10Xuerian*Cough* aside from that though. damn nifty Abug.
23:54.18abugyou have to call em from the Protected table though
23:54.32Kaeltenabug: you know that'd get people in trouble
23:55.15abugyeah it would
23:55.22abugso don't do it punks
23:55.54abugor Mr. T. gonna hit up your doorstep
23:55.54Kaeltenits impressive, but please don't repeat it out there.  
23:55.56Trancerbah, I want dual wield on my warlock
23:56.42nevcairielsomeone who can contact slouken directly should do so, i wouldnt post about it on the forums :P
23:56.55NightHawkAtWorkKaelten: eh, there's nothing wrong with talking about it, and such. As long as it's been reported, and understood that it's a BadThing(tm)
23:57.02Kaeltennevcairiel: I've already pointed it at him
23:57.07nevcairielah good
23:57.27sag_ich_nichti wonder how hard it is to fix though
23:57.39abugjust block _G from having a metatable
23:58.34abugor fix the weird nature of taint / secure in _G's metatable

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