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00:09.00boobies4uckknight
00:09.10boobies4uwhats the "PVP cooldown" in honorFU
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00:09.43ckknightif you hit someone, you turn green (from blue)
00:09.49ckknightit takes 5 minutes for that to wear off
00:10.04boobies4uAH
00:10.06boobies4uah*
00:10.08boobies4uthanks
00:10.17chutwigiiiiii like cannnnnnndy
00:10.22boobies4ugot pie?
00:10.29chutwigi was told there would be punch and pie
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00:17.25Funkeh`ag`: man
00:17.35Funkeh`ag`: your cleanups have made the party frame disapear again :p
00:17.47NightHawkTheSanelol
00:18.30CIA-1803ag * r30476 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames: CreateUnit can be passed a db table
00:20.41vid`lol
00:20.43vid`:(
00:21.00vid`wow buggrabber goin apeshit atm
00:21.16vid`[2007/03/18 20:16:52-497-x196]: aUF_RangeCheck_M\aUF_RangeCheck.lua:40: attempt to index local 'frame' (a nil value)
00:21.18vid`:(
00:22.20harldephinyea
00:25.13chutwigaguf fussed a little earlier when i updated it but it straightened out when i junked my old sv
00:28.10Funkeh`chutwig no offense man
00:28.17Funkeh`but i spent 3 or so hours configing aguf
00:28.22Funkeh`not something i wanna do frequently
00:28.43chutwigi spent a while too on my setup
00:28.44chutwigbut meh
00:29.28kenlyricaguf reset all the variable today anyway.
00:30.16ckknightsomeone think up an name for a unit frame addon. Note: I don't like addons that reference the author
00:31.26NightHawkTheSane"not_ag_UnitFrames" ;)
00:31.36kenlyricPexUF
00:31.51kenlyricPathetic EXcuse for a new Unit Frame
00:32.00ckknightnot bad
00:32.05kenlyricof all the things that could bug me about a mod...
00:32.32ckknightI've been playing with the idea for a while
00:32.46ckknightI wouldn't have it be a carbon copy of agUF...
00:32.52ckknightif I do decide to make it
00:33.25kenlyricI do like UF in the name.
00:33.56kenlyricstrange... my pet frequently attacks my last target.
00:35.05Funkeh`ag`: you here?
00:35.54ckknightGrid's not bad as far as names go, though
00:36.15pdpiat least it's pretty descriptive
00:36.58ckknightApex is a cool word
00:37.02ckknightI like the 'x'
00:37.09pdpithat's so 1990s
00:37.16ckknightyour mom is 1990's
00:37.31pdpishe's more 1950s, as a matter of fact
00:38.48ZealotOnAStickGrr.  1% wipe on Gruul on our first consumables try of the night.
00:38.59ZealotOnAStickExcept for the one mage that was being a dork and didn't flask until we were already at like 10%.
00:39.00CIA-1803trh * r30477 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.toc modules/Notifier.lua): VanasKoS: fixed a notification issue
00:39.31ckknightblame the mage.
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00:39.53nymbiaseriously
00:39.56ZealotOnAStickI did.
00:40.07ZealotOnAStickShe was using regen flask instead of supreme power.
00:40.12pdpihaa
00:40.13pdpihaha
00:40.23pdpithat's pretty nasty
00:41.47ZealotOnAStickRUFies.
00:42.02pdpi?
00:42.02ZealotOnAStickI just don't have a clever expansion for the acronym yet.
00:42.07cladhaireZealotOnAStick: haha
00:42.22cladhaireReal Unit Frame, incredibly efficient.
00:42.26cladhaireknowing ckknight's ego =)
00:42.35ckknighthrm.
00:42.41NightHawkTheSanehaha
00:42.47cladhaireamirite?
00:42.49ckknightRealUF isn't bad
00:42.56ckknightbut I'm not sure
00:43.02ckknightbut yea, efficiency is our number one priority
00:43.05ckknightwell, after the ladies
00:43.24nymbialol
00:43.24ZealotOnAStickLots of R words you could sort from . . . Revolutionary, Rubber . . .  
00:43.39NightHawkTheSaneRubberUF: Because we like the word rubber.
00:43.49ckknightRubberUF isn't bad, actually.
00:43.52nymbiaRAOM
00:44.04ZealotOnAStickI just would be amused with a nick of RUFies or RUFIES or something like that.
00:44.45Funkeh`ag`: it seems nothing is working in aguf, changing scale width etc is having no effect
00:44.48pdpiRUFLES: Remarkable Unit Frames, Less extraneous stuff
00:45.09nymbiaaww but i like my extraneous stuff
00:45.13nymbiaas long as its in modules
00:45.20pdpihaha
00:46.09pdpidunno, just thought a far fetched word like "extraneous" would combine nicely with "stuff"
00:46.09NightHawkTheSaneDietUF: Tastes great, less filling.
00:46.14ZealotOnAStickRUFLES?  then you'd need to go with "RUFFLES: Remarkable Unit Frames, Far Less Extraneous Stuff"
00:46.19pdpihaha
00:46.22ZealotOnAStickAnd make the Ridged texture default.
00:46.28pdpihahahaha
00:46.40NightHawkTheSanehehe, nice
00:46.46pdpiI knew Rufles didn't look quite right
00:46.49pdpithat's why
00:46.58kenlyricjust don't make rufies
00:47.26pdpireminds me too much of rupies, personally. And the last thing I want is to mix up Zelda and WoW
00:47.39kenlyricdon't even joke about that.
00:47.59TainI'm sorry, your Nagafen is in a different castle.
00:48.07pdpirofl
00:48.25NightHawkTheSaneThat's SMB, not Zelda. :P
00:48.36ag`heh, I've always wanted to change the name of my addon... But there's sooo much search and replace involved
00:48.53pdpinot modular enough! ;)
00:49.06TainToo modular.
00:49.22TainI want all my addons in a single file, monolithic!
00:49.33kenlyricoooh, my guild name
00:49.38pdpithat's called an MPQ, Tain
00:49.57pdpistick to the base UI
00:50.02WobWorkYou need RUFL-LOL
00:50.25pdpihow does that even expand? Do I want to know?
00:50.28TainThat doesn't even make sense, pdqproi what the hell is your name?
00:50.31WobWorkwith modular OMG RUFL-LOL for ora integration
00:50.42ZealotOnAStickFor for Units, CK.
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00:50.47ZealotOnAStickerr, Frames
00:50.59pdpimy name?
00:51.01ckknightFFF?
00:51.11ZealotOnAStickdrop the lowercase word . . .
00:51.24WobWorkhehe
00:51.33ckknightsomeone come up with a backronym for RUFFIES
00:51.37WobWorkFantasticUnitsCK
00:51.40ckknightlol.
00:51.50ckknightI don't like attribution in the name, though
00:52.30pdpiReal Unit Frames Intended to Express Stats
00:52.31kenlyricit would be rufies (it's actually roofies)
00:52.33WobWorkReal Unit Frames For Integrated Expansion Subtleties?
00:52.38pdpioops, missed an R
00:52.48rubikgod, agUF is soo broken
00:52.59pdpino, never mind, didn't miss anything
00:53.01rubikanyone know a build # to revert to? from like 3 days ago?
00:53.28ZealotOnAStick30151
00:56.35rubikty.. will try it
00:59.08kenlyricI'm using 30457, which seems to be working fine but it reset my SV the first time I loaded it.
01:00.37pdpiSV?
01:00.54kenlyricsaved variables
01:01.01pdpiah that :o)
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01:03.14kenlyricliv tyler sideboob!
01:03.41WobWork...
01:04.06kenlyricwatching the two towers.
01:04.45CIA-1103zuno * r30479 10UnitActionBars/ (FrameGroup.lua SecureHeader.lua):
01:04.45CIA-11UnitActionBars:
01:04.45CIA-11- Fixed an issue with unnamed frames causing an error (now ignored like unknown frames).
01:04.45CIA-11- Fixed an issue with independent show/hide on action sets.
01:05.28CIA-1103zuno * r30480 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
01:05.28CIA-11UnitActionBars:
01:05.28CIA-11- TOC revision
01:05.32kenlyricmeh...skillsplusfu keeps thinking my blood elf is alliance.
01:05.40kenlyric*stab
01:09.26harldephindamn. don't make me think sexy the same time i think lord of the rings. it's not fair. not at all. too emotional. but not in a sexy way. no way. actually. just is.
01:09.58harldephinlike.. water. or something..
01:10.03harldephinhmpf
01:10.04NightHawkTheSaneDid that make as little sense to anyone else or was it just me?
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01:11.10harldephintalking to me ? you've already been here 8 minutes ago.
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01:18.13WobWorkharldephin: Sam will kill him if he tries anything =)
01:19.08TainThere's only one Return of and it's the Jedi, no the king.
01:19.33harldephinwhat? sam who?
01:19.54kenlyrichey, at least Return of the king was supposed to have short pre-industrial types.
01:20.31harldephin:-(
01:20.43kenlyricI'm pretty sure they got 1/4 of the way through filming that movie when they decided they needed a story.
01:20.59harldephinbah..
01:21.01kenlyric"hmmmm... I know, we'll blow up the death star!"
01:21.23kenlyric"we didn't even *do* that in the last movie"
01:21.40WobWorkharldephin: You've never read the Very Secret Diaries?
01:21.48kenlyricSTILL THE PRETTIEST!
01:21.55kenlyric<--- has
01:22.07WobWork^^
01:22.14harldephinno, i haven't. - if it's making fun of something i like, i don't want to.
01:22.16TainYou're a pretty pony.
01:22.19kenlyricthat's why my blood elf paladin is called Prettiest.
01:22.44kenlyricand he frequently goes shirtless or pantless. Or both.
01:22.50WobWorkharldephin: Oh it's making fun, but it's so entertaining =)
01:23.13harldephinthat's usually the intention of making fun of something. to be entertaining somebody.
01:23.41WobWorkWell, if you take the LotR that seriously, I suggest you don't read them =)
01:23.52WobWorkBut if you don't mind a laugh, then look them up =)
01:24.09CIA-1103roartindon * r30481 10AceCast/AceCast.lua: AceCast: More fixes to keep track with aguf changes
01:24.14kenlyricoh, the very secret diaries make fun of the M*vie. I'm fine with that :)
01:24.15harldephini better not
01:24.16ZealotOnAStickGruul down.
01:24.29kenlyricyay.
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01:24.37kenlyricwere you the 1% guy from earier?
01:24.58nymbiayeah
01:25.01harldephinhe was
01:25.06WobWorkyeah, they're very much more taking the mickey out of the movie
01:25.08WobWorknot the book
01:25.13nymbiaZealotOnAStick: did the mage use his pots this time?
01:25.24kenlyricwhen you get such twinks to play your elves, you have to expect that.
01:25.38kenlyricI mean haldir.. come on. He wanted aragorn BAD
01:25.46ZealotOnAStickSince it was a flask . . . probably.
01:25.56nymbialol
01:26.05CIA-1103fenlis * r30482 10Hemlock/localization.lua: Hemlock - Updated localization koKR
01:26.06ZealotOnAStickWe also used hunter and lock pets (other than shifted imps) this time, since they seem to have hotfixed pets to not shatter.
01:26.10harldephinwell, i don't care if it's the book _or_ the movie or both. i don't want to be spoiled.
01:26.12kenlyricI'm addicted ot flask of mighty restoration
01:26.17TainI keep my flask full of Cap'n Morgan.
01:26.30harldephinand now i'll stop whining and do something else.
01:26.40NightHawkTheSaneThey should add a Flask of Cap'n Morgan recipe.
01:27.06kenlyrici have a flask of rum in my bank.
01:28.58WobWorkWhy is the rum gone? =(
01:29.13TainI drank it all.
01:29.19kenlyric<PROTECTED>
01:29.28kenlyricfilthy pirates.
01:29.34WobWorkIt's true =\
01:29.43TainYarr.
01:29.56WobWorkWith Captain Scruffington
01:30.08kenlyricwhere is the horse and the rider?
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01:32.57CIA-1103roartindon * r30483 10aUF_RangeCheck_M/aUF_RangeCheck.lua: aUF_RangeCheck_M: Fixed to work with newer agUF
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01:35.04Heriohas anyone used fubar_ trackerfu or ttracker?
01:36.09Phatrikusing tTracker , works fine if you ask me
01:38.04nymbiableh, why does tonumber("-1",36) return 4294967295
01:38.14Heriohmm
01:38.40NightHawkTheSanebecause you touch yourself at night?
01:39.52nymbia:(
01:40.41nymbiaand negative number/abnormal base combination yields the same return
01:40.54nymbias/and/any/
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01:43.57WobWorkNightHawkTheSane: You are the reason the Internet can't have nice things =(
01:45.30NightHawkTheSaneWobWork: .. that may be the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me.
01:45.33NightHawkTheSane<3
01:47.11cladhaire[Ammo]: i kinda want to kill you =/  
01:47.24cladhaire~botmail to [Ammo] please email me tomorrow
01:48.04TainRun for your life, Ammo!
01:48.08CIA-1103nymbia * r30484 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
01:48.12CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:48.14CIA-11- A minor tweak or two to the core to allow for negative numbers in numeral-only set styles.
01:48.16CIA-11- Negative numbers will be for spell ids (enchants).
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01:52.37CIA-1103nymbia * r30485 10PeriodicTable-3.0/compresssplit.lua:
01:52.38CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:52.38CIA-11- Compressors need lovin' too. (negative number support)
01:53.16Funkeh`nymbia i need lovin too
01:53.36nymbia;)
01:53.55TainNaughty girls need love too.
01:54.00WobWorkIs there free lovin going around?
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01:55.03TainNot free, but cheap.
01:55.55TainBuy low, sell high!
01:57.19ThraeTain: Dammit, that was going to be my tag line for my new Gnomish Slave Growth Syrem
01:57.26break19lay low, get high
01:57.41CIA-1103nymbia * r30486 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:
01:57.41CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:57.41CIA-11- Woo, typo.
01:57.41CIA-11- *note that this does not in any way constitute lovin' for Funkeh`*
01:57.50break19lol
01:58.02Funkeh`rofl
01:58.05break19nymbia: nice :p
01:58.32NightHawkTheSanepoor Funkeh`
01:58.49Funkeh`poor me? im mentioned in most PT commit logs lol
01:58.59NightHawkTheSanebut you're not getting Lovin'!
01:59.13Funkeh`orly?
01:59.16nymbiarofl
01:59.27NightHawkTheSanenow you'll have to hire Wobin for lovin' and he charges exorbitant rates, and uses -dwarves- in gnome costumes!
01:59.34NightHawkTheSaneit's really very sub-standard.
01:59.51Funkeh`no, i prefer the real thing
01:59.57Funkeh`it coems in nymbia form
01:59.57break19NightHawkTheSane: sounds like you know your stuff
02:00.00Funkeh`comes*
02:00.16NightHawkTheSanebreak19: ... I.. er.. um, heard, you know? >.>
02:00.38break19ya... right.. and the pope's an athiest.
02:00.42break19:P
02:00.56harldephinhe is?
02:01.19harldephinlike hell.
02:01.53TainWhat did the athiest say when he died and met God?
02:01.58Tain"Well I'll be damned."
02:02.00break19Tain: oops
02:02.01JoshBorkewhere's my whomod
02:02.03break19heh
02:02.16harldephin:)
02:05.20chuckgAnyone have any info on BA3_Spellabilities?
02:05.24chuckgIs it functional?
02:05.54nymbiahrm.  is it possible to get an enchant's name when all you have is the spell id?
02:06.46chuckgTrace back through?
02:07.01chuckgIs the assumption the player is an enchanter?
02:08.36nymbiawell the only function i see that actually generates the links is GetCraftItemLink.. for which you need to even have the tradeskill open... they can be rebuilt easily enough but i dont see any API funcs that pull the name.. and i dont want to have to resort to setting it to a tooltip
02:10.10CIA-1103jayrox * r30487 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/Core.lua: FuBar_VampwatchFu: Fixing Revision Stuff - Last time, I promise.
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02:17.26chuckgWell my question is relevant for one reason.
02:17.43chuckgYou could, if it's on an enchanter only, open the enchanting window on load and grab up the names.
02:17.48chuckgLoad them into an array.
02:18.02chuckgThen re-hide, and have that ability to work from that poitn.
02:18.27chuckgSome kind of cache, at least.
02:18.31nymbiayeah
02:18.39chuckgYou could also grab the actual spell link during that time.
02:18.49chuckgAnd just save yourself a lot of hastle later.
02:19.17SymianHi - I'm writing a small learner mod that basically keeps track of (and displays) an average party HP/MP. My question is, to redraw (and thus gather) the average HP/MP bar, what event should I be working off of?
02:19.24SymianShould the event be some sort of HP/MP changed event?
02:19.34SymianOr a global UI Redraw event?
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02:20.00nymbiawell for the moment all i'm doing it for is PT3Browser so i'll settle for throwing it on a tooltip and yanking the name from there.  still.. there should be an API func for it.
02:20.03ThraeSymian: UNIT_HEALTH (frame, unitId), UNIT_MANA(frame, unitId)
02:20.15ThraeSymian: Those are the relevant events.
02:20.25SymianAwesome... thanks.
02:20.36SymianAnd those fire for targets, too?
02:20.40SymianOr, well, that's in the API
02:20.41SymianI'm sure.
02:20.54ThraeSymian: target, yes. targettarget, etc. no
02:21.30SymianAnd is there anything you can think of that I might not be aware of that will horribly break this? Something a newbie might miss?
02:21.48SymianLike, for instance, how targets, you can only get percent HP, not actual. But, you know, for party.
02:22.58ThraeSymian: UnitHealth, UnitHealthMax, UnitMana, UnitManaMax, can all be 0 or even nil. Additionally, units without mana can send UNIT_MANA events (usually Druids shifting into their forms), so check that UnitPowerType == 0
02:23.42SymianOh, awesome, I was just going to exclude Warriors and Rogues but I entirely forgot about Druids, and I'm sure there are other excpetions too
02:23.55ThraeSymian: UnitHealth(unitId), UnitPowerType(unitId), etc.
02:23.57SymianUnitPowerType == 0, huh? That's awesome. 1 = energy, 2 = rage?
02:24.02SymianYeah.
02:24.07ThraeSymian: Think it's the other way around, but yeah
02:24.12SymianRight, cool.
02:24.28ThraeSymian: Also, pets will throw UNIT_HEALTH, UNIT_MANA, as well as party and raid members and THEIR pets
02:24.44ThraeAs well as the focus unit
02:25.18Arrowmasterif your making this an ace mod with aceevent you might want to use bucketevents, the unit_health and unit_mana can fire extreamly fast in raids
02:25.41Symianbucketevents?
02:25.52SymianThrae, thanks very much.
02:26.44Arrowmasterhttp://wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0#:RegisterBucketEvent.28.22event.22_or_events.2C_delay_.5B.2C_.22methodName.22_or_func.5D.29
02:26.56Arrowmaster"This compiles a list of arg1's, then every delay seconds, if the event fired, call the given function or method with the list of arg1's."
02:27.50SymianAwesome.
02:27.57SymianThat's a great idea.
02:28.09SymianWow, I'm very happy tonight, and I have no idea why.
02:28.12SymianOh, I know!
02:28.20nymbiadrugs?
02:28.21SymianI'm asking for help on freenode and I'm not being yelled at.
02:28.24Symian:-)
02:28.38SymianHave you guys asked still-learning questions in #C, ever?
02:28.41SymianIt's... brutal.
02:28.42kenlyricDON'T BE HAPPY!\
02:29.23Symiankenlyric, ... ok?
02:32.27cladhaireYou only want to use buckets if they're not unit frames
02:32.39cladhaireunit frames need higher response time, especially lately
02:34.26SymianYeah, this won't be a unit frame, this will just be some bar.
02:34.48SymianI mean, if I take the time to bring this add on to fruition, it'd be ideally used by a main tank in order to assess the mana level of key members of the party.
02:35.08SymianBut, I mean, a quick look at the unit frames should pretty much work for most humans.
02:35.12SymianThis is more for me to learn.
02:39.18CIA-1103nymbia * r30488 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua:
02:39.22CIA-11PT3Browser:
02:39.26CIA-11- Add support for enchants, with some brutally ugly hackage to get the enchant's name. WTB GetEnchantInfo(spellid), blizz :(
02:39.33CIA-11- Lovin' for Funkeh` this time.
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02:41.15Funkeh`you know it
02:43.33xlviihow is 'world of warcraft' spelt in german?
02:44.49chuckgHmm.
02:44.53chuckgTidewalker is a joke :|
02:45.12SymianWorld of Warcraft. It's a name. :-)
02:45.53xlviidoes anyone know where i can find this joomla template? http://immortality-wow.com/
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02:49.17kenlyriclol, how did I miss that?
02:49.26kenlyricthe fake patch notes even mention spybot :)
02:49.47NightHawkTheSane?
02:50.35kenlyricspybot. The guy who writes fake patches notes for almost every major patch.
02:50.50kenlyricplus, lol “This is Outland!” now properly rewards 300 reputation with Kurenai.
02:51.24kenlyricI was apparently look too hard at trying to find the fake parts of the patch notes I missed the joke patch notes completely.
02:51.33NightHawkTheSaneahh
03:01.24CIA-1103funkydude * r30489 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add serpentshrine cavern bosses
03:05.58nymbiaFunkeh`: now make wowhead get loot tables for 'em.
03:08.05xlviidoes anyone know if the uh.. archmage varoth chain quest line is for any attunement, or something?
03:11.28NightHawkTheSanemmm... jewel staite.
03:14.45Funkeh`nymbia: i notified them of the coilfang reservoir thing
03:14.51Funkeh`so hopefully it will fill up
03:15.06nymbiaFunkeh`: damn straight
03:16.21ThraeHmmm, either AceDB died, or ag_UnitFrames isn't using it right
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03:19.57ZealotOnAStickbah.  Why isn't there boss positions and loot for Serpentshrine Cavern in Cartographer yet?
03:20.28JJSheetsperhaps because nobody's added them yet?
03:20.42nymbia" funkydude * r30489 Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add serpentshrine cavern bosses"
03:20.50nymbia;)
03:22.01ZealotOnAStickLurker Below should be easy, he's dead cennter of the little 6 round things in the middle.
03:22.54ZealotOnAStickHydross I could say where he is if I go back to the beginning.
03:23.05Cryectdid you not see what nymbia just wrote?
03:24.06ZealotOnAStickNot until just now, no.
03:24.20ZealotOnAStickI was playing in SC and avoiding dying to mean fishies.
03:24.30snurrecould add the tempest keep bosses while at it? :p
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03:29.36ZealotOnAStickfunky - The Lurker Below should be at about 43,51
03:31.49ZealotOnAStickFunkeh` - ^^
03:32.47Funkeh`i wrote those notes wiht the pwoer of mind vision
03:32.50Funkeh`power*
03:32.54Funkeh`didn't see lurker below
03:33.01Funkeh`43,51?
03:33.32ZealotOnAStickyes
03:33.59ZealotOnAStickIf you look at the map, there's a little red circle with water in the middle, slightly offset to the left of center of the 6 circular platforms.
03:34.01ZealotOnAStickthat spot.
03:34.16ZealotOnAStickyou summon him by fishing into the pools.  :)
03:34.27Funkeh`zg flashbacks
03:34.43krayakinfishing ftw!
03:34.45snurretakes a long time too :/
03:36.13xlviiwhat do you mean, by fishing into the pools?
03:36.38ZealotOnAStickhttp://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lurker1lk3.jpg
03:36.40ZealotOnAStick(not my shot)
03:36.58xlviibecause if you need like, 375 fishing
03:37.02xlviithat's a big motivation for me :D
03:37.20ZealotOnAStickThere a "strange pool" there.
03:37.21snurrei have a char with 13 fishing.. thats my maxc
03:37.25ZealotOnAStickYou toss a cast into it . . .
03:37.31ZealotOnAStickhe comes up . . .
03:37.47xlviido you know what level fishing oyu need?
03:38.29CIA-1103funkydude * r30490 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add the lurker below
03:38.30chutwigi'm going to guess "high enough that to get there you're going to want to shoot yourself"
03:38.55xlviimy fishing is currently 300
03:38.59xlviicooking is at 375 :P
03:39.18chutwigonly 750 casts or so to get 375 fishing
03:39.36snurreeven 1 cast is too many.. fishing fucking sucks
03:39.52xlviii can't get cartographer_instancenotes to work for me
03:39.54xlvii:P
03:39.57chutwigi spent ages getting to 300 on my paladin so i could fish essences of water up back in the day
03:40.02Micron_WoW_sorry to join the conversation halfway through but if you are updating cartographer instance notes it looks like the sunken temple notes are all out of place
03:40.16chutwignow my warlock's never even learned fishing and never will as far as i'm concerned
03:40.24CIA-1103nymbia * r30491 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 6 dirs):
03:40.24CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
03:40.24CIA-11- Add Tradeskill.Crafted.Enchanting and
03:40.24CIA-11TradeskillResultMats.*.Enchanting.
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03:44.04Micron_WoW_I'll see if I can put together a diff for the ones I think are out of place this week. For now I'm dropping out of irc to go back to games.
03:46.19xlviidoes anyone have a problem with the armory really freezing up in firefox?
03:48.20CIA-1103nymbia * r30492 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua:
03:48.20CIA-11PT3Browser:
03:48.20CIA-11- Fix a nil error when dealing with enchants.
03:50.10xlviiwhat's the skill for paladin that gives them wings? (no redbull / captain america jokes, please)
03:52.25CIA-1103nymbia * r30493 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua:
03:52.26CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
03:52.26CIA-11- Fix Enchanting dataminer to get actual.. you know.. enchants.
03:52.34NightHawkTheSanexlvii: damn. :P It's called "Avenging Wrath" though
03:52.49NightHawkTheSaneL70 skill i believe, increases damage by 30%? maybe just holy damage, not sure
03:52.53xlviithanks nighthawk.
03:53.08xlviii don't think it's a level 70 skill
03:53.10xlviiit's talented./
03:53.18xlviii think
03:53.21NightHawkTheSaneer, no
03:53.24NightHawkTheSanei dont think so
03:53.26xlviia belfadin in my guild was using it.
03:53.30xlviilevel 63.
03:53.58NightHawkTheSaneWell its not talented, it might be lower level than 70, though
03:53.59NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31884
03:54.05xlviimaybe i was wrong
03:54.09xlviiyay, wowhead.
03:54.09xlvii:D
03:54.30NightHawkTheSane:D
03:55.39xlviiwowhead is pro.
03:55.44xlviimuch much better then thottbiot
03:57.16JJSheetsand it's even better than thottbot too!
03:58.17xlviithanks
03:58.19xlviii'm lazy
03:58.19xlvii:D
03:58.24JJSheetslol
04:06.46ZealotOnASticknow we can't fish him up again.  :(
04:19.41ZealotOnAStickJust fraps'ed a suicide dive down the elevator shaft in SC.
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04:34.46art3misi love getting wowhead
04:35.04CIA-1103nymbia * r30494 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
04:35.04CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
04:35.04CIA-11- Populate enchants from wowhead, fix one more little bug in the
04:35.04CIA-11compressor.
04:38.07NightHawkTheSaneCompressor? I hardly know her!
04:38.27JJSheetsthat's half the fun!
04:38.39NightHawkTheSane.. I'm not saying I wouldn't. >.>
04:38.46JJSheetslol
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04:40.07ZealotOnAStickWhat are some good techno groups/artists?
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04:52.19Grindilli dont suppose there is a list of recommended/cool addons on wowace.com ? i'm quite new to it all and although some have been recommended I NEED MORE!
04:52.50Meiun|wget files.wowace.com
04:52.51Meiun|:D
04:53.28NightHawkTheSanelol
04:54.25NightHawkTheSanewtb a damn mailbox at evergrove
04:56.07CIA-1103nymbia * r30495 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
04:56.07CIA-11Manufac:
04:56.07CIA-11- Enchants are now lucky enough to get smooth difficulty sorting. plztest, as my enchanter is at 33 skill.
04:56.07CIA-11- Use reverse translations for Tradeskill.Crafted.* set lookups.
04:57.40Aens|Superiorityoh man
04:57.47Aens|Superioritymore aguf problems -_-
04:58.01ckknightwait, so does being honored give you 10% discount still?
04:58.05Aens|SuperiorityI cannot scale the size of my party frames.
04:58.12ckknightI can
04:58.23ckknighterr, not honored
04:58.26ckknightbeing sergeant, I mean
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05:01.07NightHawkTheSaneckknight: no
05:01.50NightHawkTheSaneSince there's no way for new players to achieve sergeant, they removed that
05:02.01sedatedChipmunkoh that's l4me
05:02.10NightHawkTheSaneits balanced
05:02.15sedatedChipmunkbull
05:02.24sedatedChipmunkwell
05:02.29sedatedChipmunkbalanced for sergeant maybe
05:03.35CIA-1103ckknight * r30496 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - various optimizations. Removed Sergeant check, since Blizz doesn't think they're hot stuff anymore.
05:03.41ckknightwait, hang on
05:04.09sedatedChipmunklol
05:04.22sedatedChipmunki don't think CIA-11 responds to that sort of request
05:05.05Funkeh`ckknight: you know that was removed back in 1.12 or so?
05:05.24Funkeh`ckknight: /pat
05:05.24CIA-1103ckknight * r30497 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - fix the names
05:05.32ckknightand DurabilityFu was creating an extra table for every time your inventory updated.
05:05.38Funkeh`ouch
05:05.42CIA-1103nymbia * r30498 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua:
05:05.42CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
05:05.42CIA-11- Fix the Enchanting miner to not include the actual enchanting tradeskill spell(s).
05:05.42CIA-11- I don't wanna run the miner again, so Funkeh` should do it. (or just leave it as is until the miner gets run again)
05:06.04Funkeh`nymbia don't wear my name out alright
05:06.13nymbiarofl
05:07.20Funkeh`ill run it since they will ban your ip for spamming soon
05:07.54nymbianah you dont need to
05:08.09Funkeh`nymbia at ip 134.45.4.gnome uses maximum daily bandwidth 3 teravytes
05:08.20CIA-1103ckknight * r30499 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - gave the SM wings different low/high level ranges. I have no idea if these are right, but they seem right. Feel free to correct.
05:08.30nymbiathose extras arent hurting anything for now, you cant even get disconnected trying to pull em up like you can with items
05:09.02nymbiabut i have run the damn thing like 8 times today
05:09.05Funkeh`but i want to run it
05:09.13nymbiaFINE
05:09.15nymbia;)
05:09.18sedatedChipmunklol
05:09.19Funkeh`you keep hogging it i ain't ran it in like 5 days
05:09.31sedatedChipmunkhaha
05:09.43sedatedChipmunknymbia: you selfish prick
05:09.46nymbialol
05:10.43CIA-1103nymbia * r30500 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua:
05:10.43CIA-11PT3Browser:
05:10.43CIA-11- Show tooltips properly for enchants.
05:13.28CIA-1103nymbia * r30501 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
05:13.28CIA-11Manufac:
05:13.29CIA-11- Fix a potential bug in smooth coloring when an item is labeled with a higher level requirement than your current skill level. (quest rewards/discoveries)
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05:32.30SymianI have a question about RegisterBucketEvent in AceEvent-2.0
05:32.46Symianthe API says that "If it fires more than once with the same arg1, it will seem as if only 1 fired."
05:33.07SymianDoes that mean that the problem of UNIT_HEALTH firing twice for party members in a raid is solved?
05:33.15SymianWithout coding around that problem, I mean.
05:34.01NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: ping
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05:34.29SymianIn other words, is a UnitID returned from a UNIT_HEALTH event for a party member exactly equal to a UnitID returnd from a UNIT_HEALTH event for a raid member?
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05:44.32NightHawkTheSanethat's easy enough to test, you know
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05:50.56Funkeh`Approx 41m 55.11s CPU time used
05:51.00Funkeh`shit script nymbia!
05:52.04CIA-1103funkydude * r30502 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Loot/Item update
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06:01.34NightHawkTheSaneWhy, for the love of god, is "Everlasting Underspore Pod" classified as armor?
06:02.33Funkeh`lol
06:02.35Funkeh`later
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06:31.46CIA-1103next96 * r30503 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed-koKR.lua:
06:31.46CIA-11AllPlayed:
06:31.47CIA-11- Update locale koKR
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06:36.55CIA-1103pprovost * r30504 10FuBar_GroupCalendarFu/ (4 files):
06:36.55CIA-11FuBar_GroupCalendarFu:
06:36.55CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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06:40.03SymianOk - does anyone know why the UNIT_MANA event isn't being fired when my warrior character gains/loses rage?
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06:41.01ckknightUNIT_RAGE
06:41.08SymianUNIT_HEALTH is firing just fine.
06:41.18SymianOh, are you serious? UNIT_MANA doesn't fire for warriors?
06:41.26SymianAnd yet UnitMana() gets rage too...
06:41.56SymianOk. Well, thanks!
06:41.57SymianOk, well, thanks!
06:42.04SymianHmm... weird double send.
06:42.42PProvostWith alternating punctuation even. :)
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06:43.28SymianOh, you're right... I did type it twice, but it didn't go the first time.
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06:48.17whizterhi
06:48.17Symian'lo
06:48.39whizterwhat exactly does cartographer_extractgas do? i thought these gas clouds spawn at random places
06:49.18SymianDamned if I know, sorry - hang around and someone with some more know-how might answer you.
06:49.50Thraewhizter: Someone might not know that, all I can think
06:50.11whizteri'll install it and see what it does ;)
06:52.46vhaarrThey're not random.
06:53.40whizterbut they move.. so it doesn't make much sense to remember the position right?
06:53.58JJSheetsapparently they move in a set path.
06:54.19whizteroh ok
06:55.48NightHawkTheSaneI need new keybinds for my trinkets. I keep activating them accidentally
06:56.04whizteranother question: when someone wants to trade with me, some addon always blocks his request, how can i find out which one without enabling/disabling every single addon?
06:56.40JJSheetslook for automation addons... might specifically look at automaton if you have it activated.
06:57.00JJSheetsif that fails, fall back to an addon search.  :)
06:57.02NightHawkTheSaneAlso check to make sure "Block Trades" isnt checked in your interface options
06:57.37whizteroh i didn't know there exists an interface option, perhaps it's enabled ;)
06:58.05ZOASYeah.  If you use Postal, and disconnect or log out with the mailbox open, it sometimes sorta "sticks"
06:58.50NightHawkTheSanewtf is up with mail quest reward pants that say "classes: hunter"
07:00.01whizterit was enabled, thx :D
07:04.03[DiE]Celebnighthawk; and you can't vendor em either -_-
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07:04.52behebymornin
07:05.07behebygot a question bout latest aguf release
07:05.19behebyanyone here that might have a clue about aguf?
07:07.44Silviu-beheby what is wrong ?
07:09.59NightHawkTheSane[DiE]Celeb: I see you know precisely which ones i mean. :P Yeah, that's lame. :\
07:10.03behebyso
07:10.18behebyafter last update many settings just were resetted
07:10.21behebylike color by class
07:10.36behebyand now i cant change things without an reloadui
07:10.41behebyso i say (hide castbar)
07:10.46behebyand nothing changes
07:11.02behebyi need to /rl until changes take affect
07:11.16behebythats with all options happening
07:11.28Silviu-beheby well ... i did delete my savedvars
07:11.30Silviu-And redone it
07:11.41behebyi also deleted the saved vars
07:11.50behebybut i still cant change
07:12.12Silviu-At me it worked ... don`t know for sure
07:12.21Silviu-Well .. i did yesterday with that release
07:13.40behebylet me test a full delete of aguf
07:14.43Silviu-Oky
07:14.56behebycould this be an problem of "aUF_BarFader"
07:15.24behebyso full delete doesnt work grml
07:15.35Silviu-Don`t use that barfader
07:15.45behebywhy?
07:16.05art3miswierd i updated last night and all i had to change was my bar layout
07:16.06yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc - perl scripting with vista voice recognition 8)
07:16.37behebyso i just deleted barfader but i need to rl for everything DAMN
07:17.05NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: can I assume that's using voice recognition to trigger a perl script?
07:17.38behebyomg i just deactivated "highlight selected" and now there is no text left on any frames :P
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07:23.53yacoobNightHawkTheSane, no, he's trying to use voice recognition to create a script
07:24.39ckknightlol, yacoob
07:24.50NightHawkTheSaneyacoob: lol. oh dear. ><
07:25.50yacoobmovie is hilarious :)
07:27.13art3misyaya voice recog!
07:27.59CIA-1103fenlis * r30506 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Delete duplicated boss name
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07:31.57behebyi think ill need to wait for an aguf update to hope that it works again
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07:54.06KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Pong?
07:54.57echosWho the hell symlinked Babble-2.2 to 10Babe back latere01-2.2?
07:55.15echosBabble^
07:55.19echosnm
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07:59.41NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: small "bug" in QuestFu, if you're completing a quest, and have questfu's detail pane open for a quest that's "after" that quest in the log, it'll shift the detail pane to the next quest.
07:59.45NightHawkTheSaneif that makes any sense
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08:04.24echosAnyone know why trillian replaces bab.ble with babble?
08:04.46SymianI have a general question about LUA: Say I have a table stored in "self.party". That table stores UnitID's. Now say I have a unit passed in to the function and I want to see if that UnitID is represented in self.party
08:04.49KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Okay, I can tweak that.
08:04.49Symiancould I say: "if self.party.unit then return true end"?
08:04.53SymianIn other words, how do I make it recognize that "unit" means the function's unit, and not a table entry called "unit"
08:05.04Symian... does that make any sense?
08:05.34Nargiddleyparty is a function that returns a table ?
08:06.35SymianDid that send? I'm getting some major lag.
08:06.39SymianNo, it did not.
08:06.41Nargiddleynm read it properly
08:06.54SymianOh, ok - party is defined as "self.party = {}"
08:07.07SymianBut then has UnitID's added to it
08:07.12Nargiddleyhow does it store the unit id's, keys or entries ?
08:07.35SymianI actually haven't coded the added party yet, I'm trying to decide what to do
08:07.41SymianI'd LIKE to do something simple like:
08:08.00SymianWell
08:08.00Nargiddleyi dont get what you mean "the function's unit"
08:08.19SymianHmm... so, ok, let me think how to explain this
08:08.21Nargiddleyif unit is a variable with something like "party3" in it
08:08.45SymianThere is a function "Class:GetEntryExists(unit)"
08:09.01Nargiddleyand the table is set like party["party3"] = true
08:09.06Symianand it wants to see if unit exists as a value in table self.party
08:09.10SymianYes
08:09.26SymianOh, is that how you reference it? Handy.
08:09.34SymianI thought it would be self.party.unit
08:09.39Nargiddleyif self.party[unit] then <it exists> end
08:09.44Symianbut it would be self.party[unit]
08:09.48SymianPerfect
08:09.49SymianThanks
08:09.55SymianStill learning LUA, obviously.
08:10.03Nargiddleytable.entry is exactly the same as table['entry']
08:11.01SymianIs it? or is it: "table.entry is exactly the same as table[entry]"
08:11.29SymianIE, with or without 's
08:11.39Nargiddleyno, first one looks for the key "entry" second looks for a key with the contents of the variable entry
08:12.19SymianI think I get it
08:12.25SymianOk, thanks.
08:12.40Nargiddleywhatever in the [ ] is evaluated before being used
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08:13.04Symianand thus putting in '' preserves it, in a way
08:13.06Symianas a key
08:13.16SymianOk. LUA is very different from most other languages I know
08:13.17Nargiddleyyeah makes it a literal string
08:13.36NightHawkTheSaneactually, that's pretty standard amongst most scripting languages, isnt it?
08:13.37SymianIt's perfectly fine with passing functions and strings
08:13.41NightHawkTheSanei know perl/php behave that way
08:13.51Symianperl certainly doesn't, not with the function passing bit.
08:14.07NightHawkTheSanewell, no, i mean array/table keys
08:14.07Nargiddleywell in lua everything is a variable, function is just another type
08:14.15Symianthere, I'd say sub foo(); functionPasser(&foo)
08:14.21Symianah, yes
08:14.26Symianfor that, it's fairly similiar.
08:14.35SymianI like sigils, though.... I miss sigils.
08:15.04Nargiddleywell foo is just a variable with a function in it
08:15.12Nargiddleyfoo() calls whatever foo is
08:15.36SymianYes, ultimately, it is... still, LUA is very loosely typed. I'm not saying that's bad, it can be a real code saver, but it's different for me.
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08:16.29Nargiddleyyou can tell what type something is if you need to know, but a variable could be anything
08:16.34SymianI guess I just feel that perl got variables right, and when I use php/lua/python etc. it feels odd
08:16.36SymianYeah.
08:16.47SymianYup. Well, thanks again.
08:16.57NightHawkTheSaneheh, that's a matter of opinion, really :P
08:17.02SymianOh, totally.
08:17.11Nargiddleyi like how lua works
08:17.13SymianI'm sure if I had learned LUA before perl I'd be the other way around
08:17.39SymianWell, you can't beat LUA for one major thing: embedded C language extensions
08:17.52SymianI mean, obviously, since that's why blizzard chose it for WoW.
08:18.15Nargiddleyand having a tiny footprint
08:18.18NightHawkTheSanenow that I'm beginning to get the hang of lua's table paradigm, its kinda neat.
08:18.44SymianMmm... maybe a tiny footprint, but I fear the overhead of LUA's variable style. Any language that defaults to globals seems... icky to me.
08:19.13SymianBut I won't pretend to know how LUA handles globals
08:19.24SymianSo I might be totally wrong.
08:19.56vhaarr"Lua".
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08:20.19SymianIt it just lua, not LUA?
08:20.25NightHawkTheSaneIt's not an acronym
08:20.29NightHawkTheSaneSo it's "Lua" properly
08:20.36SymianIt's just, the Lua channel here is "#LUA"
08:20.38Symianso i assumed
08:20.38NightHawkTheSane"lua" if you're a lazy sod and dont like using your shift key. :D
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08:21.01SymianOh, it certainly is not!
08:21.05SymianIt's #lua, with a synonym
08:21.06Symianhah
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08:21.44nee|workHello again everyone ;) Back from England after 10 days *sighs*
08:21.55NightHawkTheSane10 days where?
08:22.05nee|workGuildford, at my girlfriends' place
08:22.09NightHawkTheSaneneat.
08:22.18nee|workFor some reason it's always too short :)
08:22.45nee|workAh well. Anything new in addon/AC.. hehe.. Ace land?
08:22.51NightHawkTheSanealways is
08:23.02NightHawkTheSaneer, "too short" i mean
08:23.07nee|work:) I know
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08:24.07nee|workSecurity at Gatwick was horrible though, in the sense that I had to run from security to the gate.. And the plane was half-empty (or is it half-full.. Or the plane is just twice as large as it should be), as a lot of people were still in the security queue.
08:25.19SymianYikes.
08:26.35nee|workBut, safety before anything I think
08:26.52nee|workThough I didn't feel too agreeable at the time ;)
08:27.23nee|workAnd for some reason the gate I had to run to was the furthest. I think it's a conspiracy :)
08:28.24nee|workLike train-tickets are a conspiracy - return tickets cost only 5 pence more than single ones from Guildford - Gatwick, as if some tourist board wants to see people back and tries to motivate them with low ticket prices ;)
08:31.51SymianI think I've been to the Guildford station, I think... it was a while ago. Was it called "Guildford", or "London Road"?
08:32.05nee|worker, Guildford I think
08:32.09SymianNot that it matters, or anything, but being as I live in Washington, USA, I think it's a bit of a coincidence.
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08:32.13nee|work:)
08:32.43SymianHmm... I'm trying to find a description of it in my mind, but it's like every other english train station.
08:32.44SymianHeh.
08:32.53nee|workhehe
08:32.59NightHawkTheSaneSymian: hm, washington state, or DC?
08:33.00DynomAnyone else that noticed Ace2-r30384 being broken ?
08:33.06SymianWashington State.
08:33.13NightHawkTheSaneah, thats neat, I'm in seattle myself
08:33.14SymianAbout 30 minutes from Vancouver.
08:33.19SymianOh yeah? cool.
08:33.25nee|workTerry Jones, from the Monty Python crew, went to Highschool in Guildford :)
08:33.34SymianYes! That's right, he did
08:34.02SymianIs that really why I remember the name Guildford? It sounds right... Is there something else of note there?
08:34.19nee|workHm..
08:34.28SymianOH!
08:34.29SymianOf course!
08:34.35nee|workWhat?
08:34.36SymianFord Prefect claimed to be from Guildford.
08:34.42NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i was just going to say that
08:34.44SymianFrom Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
08:34.45SymianHah.
08:34.53nee|workAh yea
08:34.54nee|work:)
08:34.54nee|workTrue
08:34.56nee|workhehe
08:35.04SymianSee, it's a happening place.
08:35.21NightHawkTheSanegah. 115k xp from 70. so close..
08:35.21nee|work;)
08:35.30nee|workAlien alibi place
08:35.37SymianI'm only... how far is it from level 16?
08:35.42NightHawkTheSanelol
08:36.02SymianI bought the game about three weeks ago and when I found out how much customization you can do with it I've barely played since.
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08:37.20nee|workHehe. I had that 'problem' too for a while :)
08:39.45SymianHey, NightHawkTheSane, mind if I ask about how much it costs to live in Seattle? I'm looking to move out of this town (I live in Bellingham), and, well, the city seems nice.
08:40.01SymianI mean, relatively speaking, what's the living wage?
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08:41.41nee|workTongue-tied, whenever you are near me..
08:41.49NightHawkTheSaneWell, depends on what part of the city you live in really. There's a pretty big difference just between queen anne (where I'm at) and a dozen or so blocks away in Belltown.
08:42.22CIA-1103kirson * r30509 10ItemSync/ (7 files in 3 dirs): ItemSync: add sfactor attribute and routines for items with negative subids (expansion random suffixes)
08:42.34NightHawkTheSaneBut where I'm at, it's not really that bad. my last job I was making around 17/hr and that was plenty.
08:43.02SymianYeah, that's about what I'm looking to make, too - ok, cool, so I can at least consider it then.
08:43.04SymianThanks.
08:43.10NightHawkTheSanenp
08:46.38SymianUgh.
08:47.15SymianI just had one of those moments when I realized I've been wasting the last three hours chasing a red herring.
08:47.15SymianI think I mixed my metaphors.
08:47.15SymianI've been on a snipe hunt. There.
08:51.04SymianI've a question about AceEvent - When I use "RegisterEvent()", for the optional second argument '"methodname" or func', will it execute said code as an OO code?
08:51.19SymianHmm... what am I trying to say
08:51.26ilifinI claim ducks
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08:52.01SymianYou know what? This I can test.
08:52.11NightHawkTheSanethere you go. :)
08:52.13ilifinducktest
08:52.25SymianSee? I'm getting better.
08:52.30ilifinmirror mirror on the wall, who is the ducktest of them all
08:52.35nevcairielonly a ducktest is a good test.
08:52.38CIA-1103werehamster * r30510 10coolDown/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
08:52.38CIA-11coolDown:
08:52.38CIA-11<PROTECTED>
08:52.38CIA-11<PROTECTED>
08:53.16nee|workWater slides off a duck's back
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08:56.26nee|workhmm
08:56.34nee|workonly 300 euros for a 20" monitor
08:58.01ckknightSymian: OO code?
08:58.52Symianckknight, I realized I had no clue what I was asking, and in so doing, realized a better way to address the issue.
08:58.53SymianSo never mind.
08:59.01SymianThanks though!
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09:14.35[Ammo]morning
09:15.02Dynomgm
09:15.12[Ammo]eeep, clad wants to kill me?
09:15.19[Ammo]wonder why :(
09:17.42Dynomechos_: thats one big timestamp
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09:18.21Elkanoechos_, one does not simply PING into Mordor...
09:18.27nevcairiellol
09:18.29DynomxD
09:18.34nevcairielwonder if i ponged back
09:18.40echos_sorry trying out a new irc program
09:18.40nevcairielor if ive disabled that
09:18.41nevcairielheh
09:18.43Dynomtbh, thats geekness all the way Elkano
09:18.58echos_Playing around with Klient
09:19.12hasteWhy use a pay client :D ?
09:19.25Loki|muhuah a K-programm
09:19.32echos_I didn't know that until "I installed it
09:21.20Dynomonce you go irssi, you never look back!
09:21.34NightHawkTheSane<3 x-chat
09:21.35Dynomoh wait, thats modded undead joke
09:22.04DynomI'm in a happy mood
09:22.16NightHawkTheSanewell someone's been taking their medication.
09:22.40Dynommodrewrite loves me, my box came back up after a kernel update and no attacks in my server logs
09:22.52Dynomtoday is a good day
09:22.54hasteDynom: irssi <3
09:22.57Dynomhaste: <3
09:23.22Dynomoh, AND! no traffic jams this morning
09:23.29Dynomwhich is a first on monday morning this year
09:24.48nevcairielboo away scripts!
09:24.54Dynom./singed
09:24.57Dynom./signed
09:25.34Fisker-yeah
09:25.36Dynomtbh 'np' 'away nicks' and 'away scripts' should be removed
09:25.38Fisker-i hate it
09:25.39vhaarrechos: I've kicked people for less than that, please disable it.
09:26.16NightHawkTheSaneI don't mind changing nicks to indicate away/sleeping/whatever, but yeah, away messages are obnoxious
09:26.34Dynomwell, tbh, why change your name, they invented /away for that
09:26.36echos_wow I hit a couple of buttons to try them out and I have the irc police all over me.
09:26.43hastevhaarr is  a nazi-operator from hell
09:26.54evlyeah
09:26.58hastedon't try them in a public channel :3
09:27.03Fisker-nofh? :P
09:27.05NightHawkTheSaneDynom: oh, i agree, I'm just saying I don'
09:27.07evlpeople who use away scripts  and/or nicks should be GASSED
09:27.08NightHawkTheSanedon't mind it.
09:27.15Elkanoo/ vhaarr ;)
09:27.19vhaarro/
09:27.23hastenicks are okey, as long as you don't change it for every single case
09:27.27DynomI mean, you don't change your name on your passort if you go on a holiday 'John Doe|Holiday'
09:28.41NightHawkTheSane.. I should do that. >.>
09:28.41Dynomkinda expensive
09:28.41ElkanoDynom, maybe once we get 100% e-passports
09:28.41DynomElkano: I want my uptime on it in timestamp then
09:28.41Dynomor is that overdone?
09:28.41ElkanoDynom, I want idle time...
09:28.41evlWell
09:28.43Elkano...or wait... I better don't...
09:28.48evlhere in norway you can change your name for free every 6 months
09:28.49DynomElkano: haha, why same number ?
09:28.49echosmy verdict is klient is POS, but I think the UI design is descent.
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09:28.52evlI was thinking of making mine seasonal
09:29.07DynomElkano: you got to be kidding me about the free change
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09:29.09yacoobhaste, wait a second, you suggest THIS is not public channel?
09:29.18evladding some cool name like "Masters"
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09:29.21evlor "Superman"
09:29.37haste'cool names' :<
09:31.16Dynomhmm, cold coffee
09:31.26DynomI should get a build-in sensor for that
09:31.41DynomI usually notice that way too late
09:32.23hasteI use the same cup for coffee and cola
09:32.31hastealways fun when you expect cola and get cold coffee
09:32.33evl:D
09:32.43hasteI've done it way too many times :(
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09:36.38ckknightI need advice: I want to buy a web domain as anonymously as possible. How would I accomplish this?
09:36.57echosck what are you trying to do?
09:37.06ckknightmake a fake youtube miniseries
09:38.01Dynomckknight: impossible, unless you want some banana republic domainname
09:38.09echosyou could aways use something like a dyndns but that's not quite a domain name
09:38.20ckknightno, I want it to be a full .com
09:38.25ckknightthe name is available
09:38.34ckknightI just don't want people do be able to do a whois on me
09:38.49echosyou could always use a proxy org
09:39.02ckknightor, alternatively, I'd have to come up with some backstory or something
09:39.03Der_Todtry to find a domain seller that you can pay him by paypal
09:39.21echosbut then they would know his e-mail
09:39.22Dynomckknight: disclamers have saved many dollahs from lawsuits
09:39.33DynomDer_Tod: thats not the problem
09:39.37ckknightdisclaimers for what, Dynom?
09:40.02Dynomckknight: well, just reg the domain, and put in it that people can't visit the site, that it's merely a test website
09:40.10Dynombasically you can't be sued for a lot of shit then
09:40.18Dynomor pick a server outside the stats
09:40.20Dynomstates*
09:40.32ckknightwhy would I be sued?
09:40.46Dynomwell why do you want it tbe anonymous
09:40.55ckknightso people can't figure out it's all a big scam
09:40.55echosyeah pull a case which archive.org got sued over.
09:41.15ckknightI'm not trying to fuck anyone out of their money or anything
09:41.30echosjust do a domain whois by proxy
09:41.32ckknightI just want to pretend to be a southern hick and make youtube videos about being a southern hick
09:41.33Der_Todit's not the point here :D
09:41.35Dynomckknight: how many people (talking about your target genre of people) do you think can use whois calls ?
09:41.46echosno ICANN accredit registrar will do what you want.
09:41.46ckknightthere will be people.
09:42.04Dynomckknight: 1:1.000.000 , sho what :]
09:42.16Dynomit'll come out in time anyway
09:42.23ckknightI'm targetting people ages 15-35
09:42.30ckknightpeople are smart in that age bracket
09:42.31Dynomjust put your parents adress on it
09:42.46DynomI think you just overestimated 90% of the population
09:42.47boobies4ujust register under fake name
09:42.49ckknightbut then it could be traced back to me somehow...
09:42.51boobies4ulike Adolf Hitler or something
09:42.57Dynomboobies4u: thats mostly not possible
09:43.05ckknightboobies4u: yea, not quite possible
09:43.05boobies4uit is
09:43.08ckknightwell
09:43.10ckknightit depends
09:43.25Der_TodSo , may i ask something about an addon I am trying to build? :D
09:43.29Dynomfor .nl .net .edu .gov and a LOT of other domainames, it's not possible
09:43.36ckknight.com?
09:43.48Dynomwell don't know about .com, I only have... 3 of those
09:44.01Dynomand I fill in the proper info on those
09:44.09Dynom.nl even get's officially checked
09:44.33NightHawkTheSane.nl is.. what, netherlands?
09:44.35echosjust use a proxy for you domaain name
09:44.40DynomNightHawkTheSane: ya
09:44.48echosdomainsbyproxy seem perty common
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09:44.58NightHawkTheSanehm, interesting
09:45.18ckknightI wonder if my networking professor would know
09:45.19ckknighthe's smart.
09:45.25ckknightwith all the websites and such
09:45.38Der_Todcheck the link i send you
09:45.44Dynomckknight: just read the .com root services guide
09:45.47boobies4uafai remember
09:45.53Dynomdno what that is, in holland it's SIDN
09:45.55boobies4udotster.com let you enter in manualy what whois shall say
09:46.06boobies4uon .com .org .net atleast
09:46.08Dynomboobies4u: you must fill that in ^^
09:46.19boobies4uthen just write something
09:46.27boobies4uthat sounds serious
09:46.31Dynomand how do you gues you get billed
09:46.38boobies4uyou get from your visa
09:46.52Dynomand what credentials do you fill in for tha
09:46.53Dynomt
09:46.55Dynomdonalduck?
09:47.03Der_Todnot always from visa mate
09:47.13boobies4uyou can manualy enter what the whois shall show.
09:47.35boobies4uthe guy that pais for the domain doesent have to be the bitch using it.
09:47.36Dynomstrange that your billing information can be different then your whois data
09:48.02nevcairieli can set the full whois data on my domains too
09:48.04nevcairiel.net that is
09:48.08nevcairieland .de
09:48.28Der_TodWhen I was working at an ISP we bought .com domains with the company's visa and clients details
09:48.31Dynomyou can usually set the technical and administrative contact info to whatever
09:48.41NightHawkTheSaneheh, i dinged 70 by turning in oshu'gun crystal powder samples
09:48.48Dynombut normally not the Registrant
09:49.14Der_Todthe real problem is if noone wants you to know the real name
09:49.26Der_Todthen you need a "stolen" credit card :P
09:49.45boobies4uor make a fake company
09:50.03Der_Todand have a visa at companys name
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09:50.26Der_Todbut then we talk about scamming :D
09:51.01Der_Todso , now may I ask something about an addon I am trying to make? :D
09:51.07nevcairieljust ask
09:51.20Der_TodI want to export my quest log to a file
09:51.22Dynomnever ask to ask
09:51.30Der_Todeven just the Title
09:51.58ckknightman, that's complex...
09:51.59Der_Todi made somethig , but it exports just
09:52.00Der_Todquesttrack = nil --[[ skipped inline function ]]
09:52.29nevcairielheh, you cannot save functions
09:52.35Der_Todit's almost copy paste from wowwiki
09:52.43DynomI know chatlog has a feature like that, maybe you can borrow that source
09:52.54Dynomisn't there a lib that can do that?
09:54.08echoscouldn't you serializie it or something.
09:56.26Der_Todserializie?
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09:58.14Der_TodI stole the idea from the alkhazam's client , but I am not trust it in any way , so I prefer to do something on my own, Alkhazam's client can do that shit
09:59.06echoshttp://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.serialize.php
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10:01.40nee|workHm.. the Philips Xenium cellphone line seems to be a bit elusive.. But looks very good with the 40-day standby
10:02.45nee|workThey seem to be abundant in China, but in Europe, it seems that phones with a lot of features and low standby time are preferred.
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10:03.47Loki|muhi like my sony-ericsson with 6-7days standby
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10:04.32nee|workmy motorola razr v3 has around a week too, but still, I'd like more. I never use the camera nor any other things, but calling/being called and the occaisional sms.
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10:05.37[Ammo]I've got a sony-ericsson to with 7 days standby :)
10:05.46[Ammo]w811i or something
10:06.21Loki|muhyeah, same here
10:06.24nee|workproblem is, I can be away without power or more than that, or in an area where my phone searches for networks a lot as it's near borders, which can drain battery a lot
10:08.08[Ammo]you can buy portable chargers
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10:08.19[Ammo]basically just battery packs you plug in like the normal power cable
10:08.23Dynomor USB chargers
10:08.37[Ammo]the v3 can charge from USB indeed
10:08.44[Ammo]the SE W811i can't
10:08.46[Ammo]sadly
10:09.06Dynomthe 950 does
10:09.14DynomI love that phone
10:09.17Loki|muh[Ammo]: my usb-data-connector charges
10:09.32Loki|muhslowly, but it does
10:09.49[Ammo]mine doesn't
10:09.51[Ammo]weird
10:10.04[Ammo]at least it doesn't show the 'charging' thing
10:11.23Dynomman I hate complex regexp's
10:11.30nevcairielhow true
10:11.59hastecomplex regepx's are fine as long as you don't have to debug time half a year later
10:12.17nee|work[Ammo]: extra weight just to charge a phone isn't something I'd prefer. Anyway, I just wonder why there do not seem to be many phones which focus on long battery life.
10:12.18Dynomwell I'm having trouble matching a xml like pattern with nested tags
10:12.38Dynompreferbly with back reference, like <tag ([^>]+)>(.*)</tag \\1>  ish
10:13.40Dynomoh. In PHP btw
10:13.54Dynomcan differ a bit from the prel one
10:14.28hasteI don't know perl, and I haven't touched PHP a lot during the last two years :p
10:14.39Dynomwell that doesn't matter for regexpr
10:14.45Dynomas long as it's posi
10:14.45Dynomx
10:15.41echosDynom so what are you tring to do with PHP and XML?
10:16.27Dynomwell, it's part of a template system
10:16.29evlXML in PHP4 is ugly as hell
10:16.33evlPHP5  it's nice
10:16.45Dynomwell it's not XML, it's XML like
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10:18.50Dynomit should parse stuff like: http://home.dynom.nl/~dynom/index.tpl
10:19.39nevcairielyour problem probably is, that php is too greedy
10:19.56Dynomyeah but even U doesn't make it proper
10:20.03Dynomthe U param I mean :-)
10:20.51nee|workgimme: http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=6148&cid=9
10:21.22Dynomit should be possible with one regexpr imo, don't want to ugly ass code looping
10:21.26nee|workhm. no
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10:27.34mitch0morgen
10:27.48ckknightmorgen, mitch0
10:27.52ckknightwie geht's?
10:28.41mitch0ich sprehe deuch niht :)
10:28.59mitch0my vocabulary extends to "noch zwei bier bitte" :)
10:29.42mitch0ckknight: btw, cartographer is really nice
10:29.44nevcairielthats the important stuff
10:29.48Loki|muhthats enough!
10:29.51Loki|muh:)
10:29.59ckknightyou misspelled nicht
10:30.02ckknightand spreche
10:30.06ckknightand Deutsch
10:30.14mitch0:)
10:30.16ckknightyou got the ich right
10:30.23mitch0half success then :)
10:30.23nevcairiel\o/
10:30.53NightHawkTheSanewouldn't it be more like 1/4?
10:31.10mitch0I'm an optimist! :)
10:31.20nevcairielone word right, the other words half-right, its 1/2 :p
10:31.22mitch0"always look at the bright side of life!" :)
10:32.02mitch0btw, anyone here from After Midnight of Bloodscalp/EU?
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10:33.43mitch0ckknight: what is the "Show Openings" or somesuch option in carto? what are those "openings"?
10:33.52ckknightI have no idea
10:33.59SunTiger<+The_Steel> I scored a 96% on the procrastination test
10:33.59SunTiger<+The_Steel> I'm not suprised
10:33.59SunTiger<+emul8or_> i put off the procrastination test till tomorrow
10:33.59mitch0heh, ok
10:34.09hasteif you limit your ssh to 20KiB/s max usage, don't go transfer a file while using irssi
10:34.18hasteI can write two lines of text before it responds :D
10:34.27hasteat least don't go transfer a file at full speed*
10:34.42Dynomwhy would you limit ssh traffic
10:34.45mitch0haste: set up proper firewall rules that allow small packets to sneak thru first
10:35.21hasteI could do that also, but I only transfer files over SSH once a year :p
10:35.33nevcairieli do it all the time
10:35.33Dynomscp ftw ^^
10:35.36nevcairielftp is so unsafe :)
10:35.48hastehehe
10:35.57Dynomwell, tbh I dont care about that, it's just the authentication that I don't like to be unsaf
10:36.01Dynome
10:36.21DynomSSH session and plain transfer would be cute
10:37.05Dynomjust parity over SSH, and rest over a standard FTP protocol, would be fast also
10:37.37mitch0isn't there a "turn off encryption" flag for ssh?
10:37.48Dynomyeah
10:37.56Dynombut thats server side
10:38.33DynomI don't know how SFTP works exactly tbh, maybe SFTP does it like that
10:38.46Dynomor maybe it's just ftp over an ssh tunnel
10:40.31hasteI think ti's FTP over a ssh tunnel
10:42.03Dynomyeah
10:42.04Dynomme too
10:42.18hastewindows ftw!
10:42.27NightHawkTheSaneer, not precisely. it's a different protocol from FTP
10:42.27hasteI can't release my mp3 player, because it's in use!
10:42.27NightHawkTheSanehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
10:42.38hastebut it's in use as in... I'm right-clicking it to unmount
10:43.13ckknightisn't it possible to be a gaybashing atheist? It seems that gaybashing doesn't necessarily seem limited to religious crazies if you think it's morally wrong...
10:43.22ckknightnote: I'm not anti-gay
10:43.38clad|sleepckknight: completely valid, yes
10:43.38markv_all hail the gay bashing atheists!
10:43.41NightHawkTheSaneckknight: yes, certainly.
10:43.56NightHawkTheSanegaybashing is typically associated with religious crazies,  because they do it the most. :P
10:44.16ckknightjust say a thing from Bill Maher saying it wouldn't exist if there were no religious crazies
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10:44.49markv_are there any casino mods?
10:44.51wobinLand rights for gay whales?
10:44.56echosis the example.org link on wowace.com/trac ever going to get fixed?
10:44.57NightHawkTheSanewell he's probably right.
10:45.02markv_i feel like playing some blackjack while raiding
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10:45.34wobinckknight: morals are usually brought about by religion
10:45.41wobinor are at least shaped by it
10:46.19ckknightyes, but morals are not contingent upon religion
10:46.19wobinfrom a purely non-religious point of view, why would homosexuality be 'immoral'?
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10:46.50ckknightif homosexuality is so natural, try to get them to reproduce
10:46.57nevcairielheh
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10:47.01wobinAnd?
10:47.07NightHawkTheSaneckknight: it's a difference between what is possible, and what actually is. As it is, 99% of anti-gay sentiment comes from a religious point of view.
10:47.15nevcairielno one said its natural, wobin was talking about moral
10:47.29ckknightwell, that's a non-religious view that could shape morals
10:47.30markv_it's only immoral when it's not two hot women doing it in a porno
10:47.33clad|sleepckknight: If its not natural, then why does it happen naturally in the wild, at an extremely high rate?
10:47.49wobinIf fucking were so natural and caused reproduction every time, why isn't every single sex act resultant in a child?
10:47.52nee|workif you want natural, start removing artificial mediciine, hospitals, etc
10:47.52DynomNightHawkTheSane: yeah, but there are people that don't like what they don't understand, strangely
10:47.53ckknightclad|sleep: I'm not anti-gay, I was just making a point. I know that there are a bunch of gay animals
10:47.56Elkanockknight, but iirc homosexuality also exists among animals
10:48.05nevcairielwobin: because science stoped that.
10:48.10wobinNope
10:48.14DynomElkano: yeh it does
10:48.18ckknightthe theory that I tend to agree with is that homosexuality cuts down on intraspecies fighting and increases bonding
10:48.19NightHawkTheSaneDynom: well yes, and strangely enough, 99% of those people are religious crazies. :)
10:48.39wobinI bet if you went out and had sex with the first woman (or man) you saw, chances are, they (or you) would not get pregnant first off
10:48.54clad|sleepckknight: understood, just wanted to clarify =).  I think the point he was making is that religious crazies are just that, crazy, and thosr would be the most likely avenue to cause an issue about something.
10:49.02DynomNightHawkTheSane: well imo don't call religion crazy, but it does caused the most deaths and missunderstanding
10:49.09wobin=(
10:49.10wobinIt's true
10:49.36mitch0that's why I went with scryers. aldors are a bunch of religous creeps :)
10:49.38clad|sleepi.e. if religion wasn't so ingrained in the american psyche, then people who had issues with homosexuals would be the minority, instead of being an apparently vocal majority
10:49.44Dynommitch0: -_-
10:49.55NightHawkTheSaneDynom: certainly not calling religion itself crazy. just the people.
10:50.07nevcairielpeople with problems always appear to be the vocal majority, if you dont care, you dont get vocal.
10:50.09DynomNightHawkTheSane: hahaha okay ^^
10:50.11ckknightclad|sleep: yea, I think I'd agree to that
10:50.39Dynomthe funny part about religion; people start beleiving once it goes bad, but when times are good noone steps into church
10:50.48clad|sleepnevcairiel: But religion is what drives the people to be so vocal.  
10:50.58ckknightmy founding belief is that no matter if it is objectively "right" or "wrong", that you should have the liberty to do what you want
10:51.13Dynomckknight: within bounds ofcourse
10:51.22ckknightoh yes.
10:51.25clad|sleepThe amount of people whoa re actually offended by the thought of homosexuality without being based solely on religious bs is relatively small.
10:51.29ckknightwith liberty comes responsibility
10:51.33ZealotOnAStick<wobin>  - re: If fucking were so natural and caused reproduction every time, why isn't every single sex act resultant in a child? . . .
10:51.41Dynomckknight: well said
10:52.00ZealotOnAStickIt's not supposed to cause reproduction every time for most vertebrate species.  
10:52.20ckknightit's supposed to cause it at least some of the time, in a healthy couple
10:52.22Dynomin fact, there are more failures then successes
10:52.30ZealotOnAStickThe mating drive is supposed to be high enough that the odds play in favor of the species' propagation.
10:52.44wobinZealotOnAStick: Aye, it was in response to one of CK's comments =)
10:52.49Dynombut, protect us from overpopulation
10:53.01Dynom(thank god for modern condoms \o/)
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10:53.27ZealotOnAStickIn the specific case of humans . . . science hasn't stopped it, but societal development has reduced it.  Lots of studies think that instinctually, man is driven to mate frequently, with as many different women as he can.
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10:53.53wobinwhile women are driven to the one man
10:53.54ckknightZealotOnAStick: yea, and women are supposed to do the same as well
10:53.58ckknightin about 4-year cycles
10:54.00mitch0Dynom: too bad the stupider the ppl, the less likely they'll think about birth control, thus the stupid are taking over the world...
10:54.02ckknightwobin: untrue.
10:54.17wobinor the one most able to give the best genetic material
10:54.21ckknightwomen are no more or less monogamous
10:54.43ckknightwobin: yea, but trends have shown that after four years, they are "supposed" to change partners
10:54.55krkawomen try to mate with the men with best genes, and use a stable mate for upbringing :)
10:55.13Dynommitch0: yeah I know, imo people lower then XX IQ shouldn't be allowed to get pregnant.. but then again.. moral and ethics kicks in
10:55.31Dynomkrka: best mates they can GET (thats a big difference
10:55.32Dynom)
10:55.34krkapeople with any serious defect shouldn't reproduce :P
10:55.41nevcairiellol
10:55.50krkathat way, no one will ever have kids
10:55.56krkaproblem solved
10:56.02krka(problem = humans)
10:56.03wobinwe're all doomed =)
10:56.05nevcairielyay for the human race
10:56.05nevcairiel:)
10:56.20wobinIt's the end of the world as we know it
10:56.27Dynomour creator shouldn't have given us free will imo, things would be a whole lot different
10:56.45NightHawkTheSaneare you so sure we have free will to begin with?
10:56.48nevcairiellife would suck, and you wouldnt even know that it sucks.
10:56.54mitch0Dynom: don't worry, our politicians are working to correct that issue :) (free will)
10:56.55wobinBut that's alright
10:57.06wobinwhat you don't know can't hurt you emotionally =)
10:57.09Dynommitch0: well I'm living in Holland, I've little complaints about that
10:57.12ckknightDynom: perhaps we don't have free will
10:57.18ckknightand that all our actions are predetermined
10:57.19wobinPerhaps it's all scripted out
10:57.20DynomNightHawkTheSane: well, I don't beleive in faith.. but yeah I think we do
10:57.24ckknightand time acts like a river
10:57.28ckknightwhich we cannot change
10:57.33wobinSome say love. It is a river.
10:57.56SunTigerWether or not we can change fate and or time we shall never know.
10:58.10SunTigerbecaue if we do , one could argue it was ones fate to do so to begin with.
10:58.11Dynomdon't do that, you scare the fishis
10:58.14Dynomfishies*
10:58.23wobinI'm gunna getcha little fishie...
10:58.35mitch0that reminds me of that dialogue in wow (don't remember wich NPCs had it, probly the dwarves in terokkar): "Yeah, and maybe we're just fictional characters living in a fictional world to amuse other beings... " :)
10:58.47DynomDisclaimer: pardon my bad grammar
10:59.01Dynommitch0: :D
10:59.16Dynomwell thats kinda nice, it beats npc's like haris pilton
10:59.24nevcairielheh
10:59.27nevcairielharis pilton ftw
10:59.44Dynomyou gotta love blizzard for stuff like that
10:59.46wobinI like the Adam
10:59.50wobinwith the battlecat =)
10:59.54nevcairielheh
11:00.01DynomI like shizzle!
11:00.18Dynomhe's easft of silithus.. forgot the name
11:00.28wobinungoro
11:00.30wobin?
11:00.31Dynomyeah that
11:01.06nevcairielShizzle's Drizzle Blocker and Shizzle's Nozzle Wiper
11:01.06nevcairielhehe
11:02.49Dynomhmm zend studio 5.5 still has a lot of bugs
11:02.57hastevim! <3
11:03.07wobinIt's true.
11:03.23wobinvim is teh win
11:03.33Dynomvim is only nice for quick edits
11:03.45Dynomit's not a serious editor for bigger projects
11:03.46wobinYou're not using it right =)
11:03.54hasteI agree with wobin :3
11:03.59wobinget a tab completer
11:04.00[Ammo]edlin!
11:04.19hastelol
11:04.19DynomI am using it, but only for quick edits, I'm missing far too many features
11:04.24wobinlike?
11:04.25NightHawkTheSaneif you dont code with ed you're not a real coder. *nod*
11:04.46wobinbah, back in my day, we had to whistle down the phoneline
11:05.02[Ammo]lpmuds had ed embedded :)
11:05.04NightHawkTheSane... is.. is that a euphamism?
11:05.08ZealotOnAStickcopy con > filename.exe
11:05.11wobinI could do a mean 2400baud modem impersonation
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11:05.23wobinahaha lpmud =)
11:05.38wobinGood old FluffOS
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11:05.45NightHawkTheSanedammit
11:05.51hastewrong button?
11:05.55NightHawkTheSanemore or less.
11:06.06Dynomwobin: ehrm, overview, proper code completion with information, inspectors, code analyzers, embedded SVN|CVS, compiler functions
11:06.10NightHawkTheSanehit cmd-q, but forgot x-chat was the active app, andnot quicktime
11:06.20DynomIt's all possible.. but not with a decent interface
11:06.35Dynomoh, and in this case mysql interaction
11:06.39Dynombut don't use that too often
11:06.52wobinDynom: Hm... it's not all necessary either, mind you, but I take your point.
11:06.59hastehehe
11:07.00Dynomwobin: :-)
11:07.08NightHawkTheSaneAnyway. night.
11:07.14[Ammo]lpmud had a pretty damn cool language LPC
11:07.17[Ammo]with nice oo features :)
11:07.31wobinvim wasn't ever designed to be a IDE
11:07.32hastethe only thing I liked about zend was the syntax error analyzer
11:07.33Dynomwobin: [=
11:07.50Dynomyeah, the realtime error syntax and the buildin compiler are hawt
11:08.00wobin[Ammo]: I used to code on DiscworldMUD with lpmud
11:08.18hasteit was the only reason I used zend!
11:08.20[Ammo]I coded only a few things
11:08.20wobinI never looked back at SMAUG and DIKU ever again =)
11:08.24[Ammo]hehe
11:08.28[Ammo]I had my own envymud :p
11:08.34Dynomhaste: same here, altered a lot of the default keybindings
11:08.38[Ammo]and helped the SMAUG developers with their event system :)
11:08.46wobinI can remember logging into the mud for the first time, and entering the Drum, and seeing exits that -weren't- n s e w =P
11:08.48[Ammo]there should still be some of my code in there
11:08.49Punkie`lpmud = teh awesome
11:09.27wobinHehe, you probably can still see posts from me in the smaug mailing lists =)
11:09.34wobinsuch a long long time ago =P
11:09.36[Ammo]but the last years I mainly played on EmlenMUDs
11:09.42[Ammo]good vs evil pk muds
11:09.50[Ammo]wrote me a mapping proxy for them
11:09.55[Ammo]with A* pathfinding :p
11:10.15[Ammo]and a hivemind so you could know the location of others in your group
11:10.20[Ammo]and do: /go <otherperson>
11:10.23[Ammo]and it would path to them :)
11:10.27wobin^^
11:10.29[Ammo]excellent for setting a trap
11:10.34[Ammo]have one person lure them
11:10.38[Ammo]and /go the other 10
11:10.58ckknightwhy must my gf insist on sending me SMSes?
11:11.06ckknightthey're so annoying to type in
11:11.15[Ammo]hook phone to PC
11:11.16wobinbluetooth
11:11.16[Ammo]sms that way
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11:11.39[Ammo]or program in a few default responses
11:11.40[Ammo]and use those :)
11:12.09wobinOr use one of the webbased sms's
11:12.19wobinDoesn't icq offer free sms?
11:12.26SunTigerwobin, its icq
11:12.35SunTigernobody uses ic
11:12.37SunTigericq*
11:12.40nevcairieli do
11:12.42wobinwell yeah
11:12.46wobinbut it's still free sms
11:12.51SunTigernev fails
11:12.53wobinand they don't have to use icq to recieve it
11:13.14hasteI used ICQ!
11:13.20haste9 years ago
11:13.21SunTigerindeed
11:13.25SunTigerbut then BETTER things came.
11:13.32nevcairielicq is a bit more spread in germany then other messengers
11:13.38nevcairielwhats considerd better ? :o
11:13.57SunTigerall other messengers.
11:14.08nevcairielAIM und MSN are teh crap
11:14.09SunTigermsn is popular here
11:14.14SunTigerpersonally i use gchat
11:14.17wobinyeah
11:14.23wobinwell I would if it worked in linux =(
11:14.26wobin(outside the browser)
11:14.45SunTigerrandom jabber client will do wobi
11:14.48SunTigerwobin*
11:14.55wobingaim -should-
11:15.00wobinbut I can't get it working =\
11:18.33CIA-1103elkano * r30512 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua):
11:18.33CIA-11ElkBuffBars
11:18.34CIA-11- started work on group options
11:18.34CIA-11- fixed target/pet debuff coloring
11:19.18clad|workjobber/gchat for the win
11:19.31ckknightI used to use AIM a lot, for some ungodly reason my gf uses yahoo... so I'm using yahoo as well now
11:19.44ElkanoI think I should start removing the LoD setting agin in order to get some feedback ;)
11:19.47clad|workckknight: aye, lots of people still use yahoo
11:20.28Elkanockknight, indicidual clients or multi-protocol-client?
11:20.39CIA-1103kirson * r30513 10ItemSync/ItemSync.toc: ItemSync: Touching toc to attempt to start auto-zip script for /files
11:20.42ckknightmulti-protocol
11:20.44ckknightI use Adium
11:20.49clad|workadium ftw =)
11:20.59Elkanowell, then it's not that much of a deal
11:21.17Elkanosince I'm still stuck to win I use Miranda ^^
11:21.21clad|workthe open source community for Mac OS X applications puts out extremely quality work, imho
11:21.32yacoob...most of the cases.
11:21.34wobin<PROTECTED>
11:21.39wobinAdium has a very cute mascot =P
11:21.57wobinElkano: Gaim is quite useful
11:22.25Elkanoclad|work, not only the open source community... Tiger works on MACs from a decade ago iirc... try that with XP or Vista ;)
11:22.39clad|workaye
11:23.14Elkanothat's one of the reasons why I think I'll rather switch to Linux than upgrading to vista
11:23.35poptixeh, no it doesn't
11:24.06poptixthe hardware requirements for OS X are pretty strict, even for Macintosh
11:24.25poptixand thats just to get it installed, forget about using most of your old hardware properly
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11:24.51poptixof course, hardware that old should be in a landfill or museum anyway.
11:25.22poptixand yes, vista is crap.
11:25.27poptixmore bloatware
11:25.52wobin><
11:26.00wobinAll of a sudden gtalk on gaim works =P
11:26.06wobin\O/
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11:26.42poptixag_uf = busted
11:27.03yacoobwobin, it will stop to work, all of a sudden as well :)
11:29.09wobin=(
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12:12.15Fisker-weee
12:12.17Fisker-375 tailoring
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12:18.37UE|Daemonawwwwwohrrrm strange
12:19.20Daemonai added bananabar to my addons and now WOW doesnt go past 10% of the loading screen bar...
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12:42.41Gandharva2.1.0 Patchnotes: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=5338055&postcount=1
12:43.00Gandharvaunofficial ;)
12:44.25hastethey are fake also
12:44.30hasteso no need to read them :)
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12:46.24Gandharvathey dont lokk like fake
12:46.25nee|workToo many inconsistencies in the notes indeed :)
12:47.54kebinusannot enough nerfs to be real
12:48.33nee|worklol. 'Clean Bomb
12:49.06nee|work"Crafted “Steam Tank” and “Flying Machine” mounts useable only by engineers." haha
12:49.22chutwignow there's some hardcore wishful thinking
12:49.33nee|workIndeed ;)
12:49.40winkillerhttp://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7028023.html
12:50.22hasteGandharva: they are fake, just believe me
12:50.54Gandharvawell see
12:51.13evlI though so too at first but haste convinced me
12:51.14JoshBorkei'm of the opinion they are mostly real
12:51.17evlSo much grammatical mistakes
12:51.41hasteJoshBorke: read the interface changes again, lots are missing and there are some fake there
12:51.43kebinusanjb, no they are mostly things suggested by people on the forums, like the 20% health bonus arena buff
12:51.44evlEver seen Blizzard mix up for and of?
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12:52.03nee|work'Players will be relieved to learn that many helm graphics no longer remove hair.'
12:52.07JoshBorkelike KDM!
12:52.37nee|work'“Quixotic Quotient” now has More charges.' - and the 'More' with a capital M. :)
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12:53.13nee|work"“Shadow Reach” now reduces threat caused by Shadow spells by 5/10% in addition to increasing the range of your Shadow spells." - Another something which is too good to be true.
12:53.39evlHey, they merged camo back in the days in the same way :P
12:53.58nee|workBut priests already have a threat reduction talent in the Shadow tree ;)
12:54.10xlviiThe Learn Two Parachute trinket should now properly prevent players from taking falling damage.
12:54.58nee|work:)
12:55.27evlhttp://www.worldofming.com/?p=410#36083
12:55.32evlhe even admits to writing them :P
12:55.57nee|workThe "Revenge of the Night" ring has been added to the game, which allows spirits to do 20% of their normal damage to other players.
12:56.16xlviiMany mobs have had their 360 degree chain melee attacks changed to directional, 180 degree cone attacks.
12:56.23xlviithat would be nice
12:56.35nee|workThat would make them too easy I think
12:56.42evlwell
12:57.03GandharvaMany mobs have had their 360 degree chain melee attacks changed to directional, 180 degree cone attacks. -> this change is confirmed by tseric
12:57.03evlhow many rogues does it take to kill Gruul?
12:57.13evl0, they're all outside /wristing
12:57.20nee|workAh well, off home now.
12:58.07xlviithat's mean evl.
12:58.09xlvii:D
12:58.15Gandharvathis is done because no one needs rogues atm ;)
12:58.33evlDid you see the screens from Nihilum Serpentshine kills?
12:58.37evlwarlock 100% more dps than next
12:58.38evl:)
12:58.53evlThey even stated they bring a rogue just to have someone to give the loot to :P
12:58.59Gandharvahehe
12:59.10xlviithat'll be me for my guild's raids
12:59.16xlviioh, the goodness of being the raid leader
12:59.34evlI had a 5-man Shadowlab yesterday going 15/41/5 and the shadowpriest had twice my dps
12:59.46xlviioh, you're a rogue too? :D
12:59.49evlMade me go featus position and suck my thumb
12:59.52evlyeah :/(
12:59.56xlviime too ;p
13:00.25evlRogues are brilliant in PVP extremely poop in PVE compared to what other classes bring to the table tbh.
13:03.13JoshBorkei've always heard that rogues have the best single target raid DPS...
13:03.28[dRaCo]they had, but that was long ago
13:03.50kebinusanhttp://www.nihilum.co.uk/image/1132/ their rogues are quite high in this ss
13:04.21Bibi`ouFwell, you've got to move a lot in this fight. :p
13:05.55kebinusanshadow priest dps is pretty insane though
13:08.58chutwigright up until they go oom which happens pretty fast when they go all out
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13:10.18winkillerI don't see the problem with rogues in 25mans, only in 5mans
13:10.41winkillerhardly any reason where 2 mages aren't better than 2 rogues/1 each
13:10.52chutwigi don't really have a problem with them in 5-mans
13:11.09chutwigi'd pick a mage over a rogue for CC but i wouldn't freak out if a rogue was all i could get
13:11.27chutwigat least not on regular difficulty
13:11.30winkilleryeah sure. but what's the use if most will picka mageover a rogue
13:11.31chutwigi think on heroic a mage is pretty much required
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13:11.41winkillerdidn't say we were completely useless :P
13:12.17chutwigand i have to spend a lot of my time CCing in heroics as well
13:12.20chutwigor trying, at least
13:12.29chutwigimmune immune immune immune
13:14.14winkillergood example is botanica last 2 days. one time: mage+rogue= rogue has to be healed in melee, has to position, has to change targets. whereas 2 mages= easymode
13:14.33chutwigthat's more of a general melee versus caster complaint
13:14.40chutwigand this game is world of castercraft
13:15.00nevcairielthen again, i always take a rogue on heroic runs, so that at least i am challenged =)
13:15.18winkillerwell, didn't even try heroic till now
13:15.35chutwigif they keep stealing my nethers there will be hell to pay!
13:15.40winkillerI'm really proud to have mastered Botanica and my attunement up to BM
13:15.52chutwigi will ruin them all with my anger
13:15.55nevcairielwe have a somewhat fixed group now for heroics
13:16.01winkiller60 dps lvl 60 weapons just don't cut it anymore
13:16.04nevcairielmage rogue priest druid warrior
13:16.13nevcairielpriest druid both full healing
13:16.22nevcairieland we managed pretty much everything :)
13:16.24chutwigeh
13:16.34_neuron_I'd never do a heroic without a warlock nevcairiel
13:16.35chutwigi did pens with two warriors, priest, mage, me (warlock)
13:16.41winkilleryeah - we also had that. holy priest + moonkin/resto druid = win
13:16.43_neuron_it's possible I'm biased though, I am a warlock
13:16.45chutwigand then SV with warrior/paladin/mage/hunter/warlock
13:16.55nevcairiel_neuron_: heh
13:16.57chutwigwith pens i think i could have been replaced without much problem
13:16.58chutwigfor SV, though
13:17.03chutwiggood luck doing the first boss without me
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13:19.00nevcairielblood furnace is one instance where the priest usally jumps into his dmg gear for some fights
13:19.00nevcairielbut other then tht
13:19.00nevcairielworks fine :)
13:19.02chutwigi still need to get heroic keyed for everything else
13:19.02chutwigi switched mains like a week and a half ago and am still catching up a little bit
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13:19.02nevcairielswitching mains is a lot of work with all the reputation stuff
13:19.02chutwigit wasn't too bad since i did it early
13:19.02chutwigand my warlock is human
13:19.12chutwigso 10% less annoying grinding
13:19.20nevcairieli wonder how long my wireless holds .. chatting from train right now .P
13:19.52evlhttp://images.fragbite.com/img.archives/sec2007/1/3%20086.jpg
13:19.53evlWTF
13:19.59evlWho dressed up Fabio as a druid?
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13:20.34nevcairielwho is fabio?
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13:21.06nevcairiellooks funny tho
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13:22.17nevcairielthat pic from the exibit reminds me .. i still have two tickets to the cebit .. but no idea if i wanna go .. only two days left
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13:33.36snurreLOL its snowing :p
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13:35.43vhaarrOkay, always make sure you have enough inventory space to make room for alchemy mastery procs ><
13:36.56Fisker-Tried emptying a slot or so?
13:37.03Fisker-Might be in your cache
13:37.42vhaarrit's not, it disappeared
13:37.58Fisker-QQ then
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14:03.59Daemonauhm who fubar'd bananabar ?!
14:04.11Daemonait freezes wow on login
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14:07.11Bigdaddyhi guys. Whats wrong with aguf?
14:07.15Bigdaddy[2007/03/19 15:03:40-586-x1]: ag_UnitFrames\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:1: unexpected symbol near '<'
14:09.39kenlyricI hear it's borked.
14:10.09kenlyricthat would be the library, not the mod, btw.
14:10.26Bigdaddyjap
14:11.03nevcairielBigdaddy: updating from svn? that looks like an error which would result from a conflict
14:12.19Bigdaddyyes updated from svn
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14:12.37trhmoin moin ;)
14:12.39nevcairieltry a clean checkout
14:12.50nevcairielsvn adds < chars for conflicts
14:12.53nevcairielthat looks like one.
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14:12.57Bigdaddyk, wiat
14:13.02renchaphow can i configure click2cast to dispell when i maj-clic a party member ?
14:13.04renchap(i use aguf)
14:14.33art3mismaj-clic?
14:14.51renchapsorry
14:14.58renchapctrl-clic
14:15.03renchap*click
14:15.11art3misuse the settings in click2cast?
14:15.23renchapdont works for me
14:15.29art3misit should just trap key-strokes when you select a spell
14:15.43art3mislike when you select hold ctrl and left click dispel
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14:16.32art3misit its anything likeclique though you should make sure its in the right sub section (default, friendly, damage)
14:16.57art3misand that ctrl-left isnt already set for something else
14:17.36Bigdaddy4566nevcairiel: : So i checked out aguf clean from svn. No Error, but i can't still scale the aguf-Frames
14:18.15Somaniany idea?
14:19.28abbat-wGuys, anyone know mod which can monitor procs (like trinket procs, set proc etc)?
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14:20.53Bigdaddy4566grml
14:20.55Bigdaddy4566damn disconnect
14:22.42Somaniso ;) anyone an idea why i can't scale frames with aguf? (player, target, tot)
14:23.15Fisker-have you tried fapping?
14:23.32Somanifapping?
14:23.47Fisker-i.e masturbating
14:24.15renchapart3mis: only works if i chack Outside unitframes
14:24.38renchapand i i click outside the unitframes ^^
14:24.49renchap*if
14:25.06SomaniFisker- : great -.-
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14:26.01art3mischeck if you've got ctrl as yer selcfcast in the interface options
14:26.01art3miserr selfcast
14:26.14renchapnop
14:26.27Somanihm... the aguf-version of yesterday works ^^. Great work today :D
14:26.36CIA-1103fenlis * r30520 10/branches/MSBTCooldowns/: MSBTCooldowns
14:26.56nevcairielhm i better dont update
14:27.37CIA-1103fenlis 07Fenlis * r30521 10MSBTCooldowns/: Created foder MSBTCooldowns by Fenlis
14:29.10CIA-1103fenlis 07Fenlis * r30522 10MSBTCooldowns/MSBTCooldowns/: Localized MSBTCooldowns
14:30.21renchapmaybe a bug with aguf ?
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14:35.06Fisker-badger badger?
14:35.11CIA-1103mulesh * r30523 10Friendminder/ (Friendminder.lua Friendminder.toc):
14:35.11CIA-11Friendminder: Thanks to Vulcanus for spotting these
14:35.11CIA-11sync fix - will sync more than one friend
14:35.11CIA-11delete command will no longer cause spam
14:35.12CIA-11datafile is now realm specific
14:37.04Dynomlol, een complete class zonder maar 1 warning in strict mode
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14:37.09Dynomups, wrong chan, sorry
14:38.00Industrialholland \o/
14:39.12Dynom./shy
14:39.25CIA-1103fenlis 07Fenlis * r30524 10MSBTCooldowns/MSBTCooldowns/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
14:39.25CIA-11MSBTCooldowns :
14:39.25CIA-11- Localized MSBTCooldowns by Fenlis
14:39.25CIA-11- Added localization koKR
14:40.06Dynombtw "Ace Development Team" Ace2 has a bug
14:40.26Dynomdon't know what it is, but when I use the latest, my WoW won't load after [Enter game]
14:42.10[Ammo]and you blame it on ace?
14:42.11[Ammo]boggle
14:42.41renchapwho uses click2cast with aguf ?
14:42.45[Ammo]I do
14:42.48Nickenyfikeni do
14:42.52renchapand it works ?
14:42.55[Ammo]ofcourse
14:42.57Nickenyfikenyup
14:42.59renchap:(
14:43.04[Ammo]clique, click2cast it all works
14:43.07Hjalterenchap: i do too. what is your problem?
14:43.09renchapwhen i click on unit frames it dont works
14:43.17renchapwhen i click outside it works
14:43.22[Ammo]then you haven't configured it properly
14:43.31[Ammo]I call 'user error'
14:43.51renchapnew keybinding, ctrl-click
14:44.04[Ammo]your settings are wrong
14:44.04renchapaction : spellname
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14:44.18renchapname : Dissipation de la magie, rank 2
14:44.53Nickenyfikenwell something may be borked with agUF
14:44.59Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5299.0;topicseen
14:45.02[Ammo]it worked fine yesterday
14:45.15[Ammo]checking now
14:45.16Hjalterenchap: Are you including the rank name in the name?
14:45.28renchapnop
14:45.30Dynom< [Ammo]> and you blame it on ace?  <-- yes, since the older version works great.
14:45.40[Ammo]my game loads fine
14:45.44[Ammo]with most up-to-date libs
14:45.55[Ammo]so you must have some conflicting stuff or something
14:46.00Hjalterenchap: Try without anything in the rank field.
14:46.06syerenSince my update this morning.
14:46.12syerenMy ESC randomly stops working in WOW.
14:46.44[Ammo]renchap: have you toggled on: 'Outide unitframes'
14:46.46Dynom[Ammo]: I only have ace2 addons and ct_raidtracker, so that would be kinda akward
14:46.48[Ammo]because that should not be toggled on
14:46.50HjalteSyeren: That happens sometimes for me as well..
14:46.57renchapnop [Ammo]
14:47.04[Ammo]renchap: try toggling it once
14:47.06[Ammo]and try again
14:47.10[Ammo]because it works here fine
14:47.19renchapworks... outside :D
14:47.38Dynom[Ammo]: when I get home I'll try it with all addons untill I find the basterd thats breaking things
14:47.40[Ammo]I just updated all my addon and it works
14:47.41Hjalterenchap: Try with another spell. What happens when you click the unit frames?
14:47.49renchapwith no rank it fails
14:48.38Hjalterenchap: I think the name has to be the exact same as on the spell-tooltip. All uppercase and lowecase letters are correct?
14:49.24renchapyup
14:49.24renchapit works outside
14:49.24renchapso the name is good ithink
14:50.07renchapfails with the spell "Rnovation"
14:50.18renchapbut works when i click outside :)
14:50.23knarf-did the playframe in aguf just break or what happened? :S
14:50.45renchapaguf r30476
14:51.00renchapclick2cast r25921
14:51.07[Ammo]it works for me, both most recent
14:51.38Hjalterenchap: it is also working for me. Do you happen to have any other clickcasting addon loaded? Eg. clique and so on..
14:51.41renchapmaybe frFR client ?
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14:55.32Gnarfozwho broke babble-ore? oO
14:55.33Gnarfozhttp://ace.pastey.net/8613
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15:00.35HjalteHas anyone found a temporary fix to Postal blocking all trades?
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15:01.12renchapi hava no clickcasting addon
15:01.19renchapcant find why it doesnt work :(
15:03.04HjalteThe only thing that i could see, was if some other addon blocked the frames from c2c to interact with them
15:03.32renchapand how can i check this ?
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15:05.41Dynomwell, does it work outcombat?
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15:06.46renchapno
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15:10.28syerenThis is getting really fucking annoying.
15:10.35syeren3 people now are reporting this problem.
15:10.36syeren:/
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15:13.45art3mishttp://dura.cell.free.fr/home/swf/moresexthanme.swf <-- dancing bunnies!
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15:15.10Funkeh`hi
15:15.32renchaphttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5272.msg88887#msg88887
15:15.43renchapi am not alone :)
15:17.35renchapandreasg : I changed the frame name of party frames.
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15:17.45renchapmaybe this name should be changed in click2cast ?
15:21.51kenlyricso, which mod is hiding the quest timer?
15:22.05kenlyricaguf, questfu, something else?
15:22.59CIA-1103funkydude * r30525 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: deDE dazed
15:23.16Funkeh`why would aguf hide it
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15:26.10JoshBorkemeh, just use another unitframes :-D
15:26.16abyssichateIs there any reason for which ArenaPointer is assigning 25% more points to my 2on2 rating than it should be?
15:26.53JJSheetsit wants to make you feel like you did a good job.  :)  j/k
15:27.53ZealotOnAStickGah.  Just finished a phone interview . . . worried I didn't do very well.
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15:46.31JoshBorkeCryect: ping
15:48.04CIA-1103jncl * r30526 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/LootScroll.lua Skinner.toc): Skinner: Skinned LootScroll
15:49.05Barbanusoh joy
15:49.18BarbanusLua errors are no longer shown by default, but you can set the scriptErrors cvar to 1 to enable them. It is recommended that AddOn authors and testers leave this turned on so you can catch problems in your AddOns.
15:49.43Barbanusmore people coming in here complaining that their mod isnt working .. and not giving any sort of error
15:49.59Antiarc|WorkBugSack should be able to turn them on, though
15:50.08Antiarc|WorkAnd that's our recommended "help me help you" response.
15:50.10Barbanus"This is implemented by code in the _ERRORMESSAGE() function, so if you already have an improved error message AddOn, this will not affect you."
15:50.18Antiarc|WorkTada!
15:50.25BarbanusYea, shouldnt effect bugsack .. but still :P
15:50.38Barbanusit will just be like "X doesnt work!!"
15:50.58Antiarc|Work"Well, tell me why so I can fix it!"
15:51.25JoshBorkeit'll be the same response they get now:  install BugSack/!BugGrabber and get back to us
15:51.38Barbanusheh
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15:54.43vhaarrit's a silly change
15:54.44vhaarrme no like
15:54.50Antiarc|WorkI think it's great
15:54.58JoshBorkei like it
15:55.06Antiarc|WorkIf you don't have bugsack or equivalent installed, nothing ruins combat faster than a giant popup that won't go away
15:55.11JoshBorkeyep
15:55.22NimbleRabitHi
15:55.30NimbleRabitAnyone there?  I'm having some macro trouble
15:55.49Antiarc|WorkSure, shoot.
15:56.03Antiarc|WorkSpeaking of macros, I discovered you can /use <slot number> yesterday. That was nice.
15:56.03abbat-wahah, shoot ;)
15:56.05abbat-wlol ;)
15:56.17Antiarc|WorkI was out of room in my macros with all my trinkets :)
15:56.32vhaarrNimbleRabit: Since you're not replying to CTCP VERSION, I'm going to assume you're IRC'ing through telnet, and answer your question; there are 204 users in the chatroom at this time.
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15:57.19renchap:)
15:58.23JoshBorkepurl, stab vhaar
15:58.58shieldbhmm.. does baggins have a good way of displaying how many categorized slots you have free in inventory currently?
15:59.00vhaarrhe stopped responding to such things
15:59.06vhaarr~whalecrit JoshBorke
15:59.11vhaarrdoesn't work any more
15:59.13JoshBorke~whaleparry
15:59.14vhaarrfor some reason
15:59.20JoshBorke~whalebomb vhaar
15:59.42shieldbi.e. if I've got my bank guy with one herb bag, one gem bag, one enchanting bag, and the rest are 'normal' bags
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16:01.42shieldbthere doesn't seem to be a way to show those slots easily for the specific types
16:01.48JJSheetspurl, you suck
16:01.49purlno, *you* suck!
16:06.06Fisker-NO U
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16:24.05krunk-nothing like WoW hookie day from work
16:24.22krunk-I don't suppose Benumbed is around?
16:24.28JoshBorkewell, i can think of something i'd prefer to do instead of wow...
16:24.49krunk-I'll do some of that too ;)
16:25.28krunk-I hadn't just blown a day off and played video games, read...just kicked it for a long time
16:28.26krunk-JoshBorke: what would you do with your skip day?
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16:29.46CIA-1103nymbia * r30527 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
16:29.46CIA-11PeriodicTable-3.0:
16:29.46CIA-11- Toss The Tempest Key into Misc.Key in data.lua before I forget.
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16:31.44JoshBorkekrunk-: get some ;-)
16:32.02nymbiadon't need a skip day to do that ;)
16:33.43krunk-JoshBorke: lol, I'm engaged
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16:34.37JoshBorkekrunk-: me too ;-)
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16:46.19someone-has there been any reported bugs about ag_UnitFrames-r30476 ?
16:46.28kenlyricyes
16:46.35kenlyricyou cant change scale, etc.
16:46.46someone-you can but you gotta reload your ui each time you do
16:46.54someone-and I lost my current UI setup >.<
16:47.16anyoneok, someone be everyone
16:47.23someone-lol
16:47.40someone-anyone has an older version of agUF ?
16:47.52JoshBorkeget it from wowi
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16:49.30Elkanochoose: http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/
16:50.50someone-thanks Elkano
16:50.51JoshBorkeor you could get the last officially released version from wowi
16:50.51JoshBorkewhichever
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16:56.20Fisker-lawl vhaarr
16:56.47vhaarr?
16:57.18Xonaetok i got a quick question my cartographer, is in my general chat window constanly giving me a note.title blah blah, note.info blah blah
16:57.24Xonaetwhy's it doing that?
16:58.34Fisker-I saw some druid on our served
16:58.36Fisker-server
16:58.38Fisker-thought it was you
16:58.42Fisker-He was named Yharr :O
16:58.56vhaarro_O
17:02.16sedatedChipmunkmaybe he was a pirate druid
17:02.36sedatedChipmunkvhaarr: do you have an evil twin pirate clone?
17:02.53Xonaetseems to only do it with trainers :/
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17:03.36vhaarrsedatedChipmunk: Maybe I'm the evil one!
17:05.53nevcairielyou most certainly are. druids cannot be evil.
17:11.22NeoTronSo ironic fact of the day: It feels like a simple thing like mystic spellthread is more profitable than everything I've done in jewelcrafting so far
17:11.38NeoTroneven when I buy mats, I make 10-15g or more per spellthread and I sold like 5-6 yesterday on the AH
17:12.11Antiarc|WorkFunner fact: I tend to make 60-100g per day reselling the Netherweave Bag pattern.
17:12.15nevcairielhrm
17:12.19NeoTronAntiarc|Work: lol
17:12.21nevcairielanti spam is SCM is broken
17:12.25Antiarc|WorkEvery time I plan on going back to Ironforge I pick up 2-3 bag patterns and list them for 35g per.
17:12.27NeoTronthat's weird
17:12.32Antiarc|WorkThey...basically keep selling.
17:12.36Antiarc|WorkI don't know why.
17:12.39Antiarc|WorkBut I am not complaining.
17:12.40NeoTronwtf isn't it a non-limited pattern?
17:12.42Antiarc|WorkIt's like free money.
17:12.42Antiarc|WorkNo.
17:12.51Antiarc|WorkIt's a plain old buy-as-many-as-you-want pattern
17:12.51NeoTronlimited at least?
17:12.53Antiarc|WorkNo.
17:12.55NeoTronright
17:13.01NeoTronthat's waht I meant with my first statement
17:13.01Antiarc|WorkI don't know WHY it sells
17:13.07NeoTronnon-limited...
17:13.08Antiarc|WorkBut people buy it, and I get money, so I do not complain.
17:13.18NeoTronI actually paid 14g for the runecloth bag battern
17:13.35Antiarc|WorkI figure people just don't want to track it down
17:13.39NeoTronbecause I went to the vendor several times w/o it being there (swear some dude has an alt there that just sits and buys it)
17:13.47Antiarc|WorkI'm an enchanter, and prismatic spheres have actually been selling decently.
17:13.55Antiarc|WorkTakes about 2 days per sphere, but they're selling for 90g per
17:13.59NeoTronnice
17:14.08NeoTronthose are pretty nice for resist gear
17:14.23NeoTronwe just need prismatic resist gear now
17:14.31NeoTronso we can stop having 47 resist sets
17:14.45Antiarc|WorkI've junked a lot of my old-world resist gear
17:14.48chutwigbut that would make things easy and reduce the insane amount of mindless grinding necessary
17:14.50Antiarc|WorkI'm replacing it with X Protection gear.
17:14.54Antiarc|WorkThat I buy on the AH
17:14.55chutwigand that would be a no-no
17:15.03NeoTronchutwig: of course
17:15.08NeoTronmindless grinding is TEH FUN
17:15.11Antiarc|WorkI'm a rogue, so I spent like 15g to buy some arcane protection gear for the Curator
17:15.14NeoTronAntiarc|Work: I actually have no old-world resist gear
17:15.16Antiarc|Work(Because those sparks mess me up like what)
17:15.24chutwigi'm tooling around with affliction for grinding right now
17:15.27NeoTronand I have some 220 AR now (warlock - I tank the bolts)
17:15.29chutwigand going to see how it works out for maulgar tonight
17:15.30Antiarc|WorkI have something like a billion arcnae resist + stamina in that gear. It's awesome.
17:15.32NeoTronchutwig: aff rocks
17:15.46chutwigNeoTron: i'm demonology at heart but i want to give everything a fair shake
17:15.53NeoTronI respecced for the 42nd time (maybe not quite that many but I've respecced a lot) and it really helps
17:16.03NeoTronand it helped me top DPS charts on Aran too (dots ftw)
17:16.06chutwigi do miss my felguard
17:16.15NeoTronyeah I'm with you. did 60-70 as demo
17:16.29NeoTronAntiarc|Work: I have full Arcanoweave now, and one soulcloth
17:16.42NeoTronI could get soulcloth shoulders too but I don't actually need that atm
17:17.02NeoTrongood deal is taht I could make soulcloth to level up tailoring for free (guild sponsored)
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17:17.33cncfanaticsyo all :)
17:17.34shieldbAntiarc|Work, if you're going to try to soak on curator with arcane resist I'd suggest no more then around 130 AR for the fight as a rogue
17:17.49Antiarc|WorkYeah, that's about where I was at
17:17.54Antiarc|WorkJust enough to take the edge off of the sparks.
17:18.13Antiarc|WorkFirst time I did it was with no arcane resist and my healers were not pleased.
17:18.13shieldbit wasn't a problem for us when we were first doing karazhan but everyone has enough gear that I find if I wear more then that I can't do enough damage to keep up with everyone else on threat by the end :)
17:18.32shieldbthough I suppose it depends on which pieces you're swapping out for what
17:18.38NeoTronwe did it with just me ni AR this week as we had two groups for karazan and th eother group had the 2 melee with AR
17:19.08shieldbyou should really only have one person wearing AR to soak the bolts imo if you're going to use a soaker at all
17:19.29Antiarc|WorkWe use a warlock soaker. We just had me chasing sparks since our ranged DPS wasn't getting them down fast enough
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17:19.39Antiarc|WorkUnfortunately, melee chasing sparks means they eat every single discharge.
17:19.49shieldbyeah, though with dampen the damage is easy to heal through
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17:21.24shieldbif you can position right for a blade flurry on the last add during evocate that helps a ton for DPS as well since it gets a double damage amplification (hooray bugs!)
17:22.12shieldb250% damage on curator and then an additional 250% bonus on that for the bladeflurry hits
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17:22.49NeoTronshieldb: yowza
17:22.51shieldbI've had a 5 point evis crit hit the add for something like 23k or 29k due to that
17:22.51Antiarc|WorkOoh, I didn't realize that.
17:23.02NeoTronweird
17:23.12Antiarc|WorkI know that mobs got the damage amp from Blade Flurry when the rogue is MC'd
17:23.13shieldbit's worked like that for a really long time
17:23.18Antiarc|WorkBut I didn't realize the multiplier worked on the Curator.
17:23.20NeoTronso if you blade flurry on evo-curator, all normal hits do 250% more dmg on the add?
17:23.28shieldbNeoTron, better then that
17:23.32shieldbyou hit the curator for 100
17:23.36shieldband it gets amplified to 250
17:23.38Antiarc|Work(We had a rogue basically one-shot the entire melee side when we were doing Nef one day)
17:23.39shieldbdue to his weaken
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17:23.56shieldbthen that 250 hit gets a 250% bonus and does that much damage to the add
17:24.03xishi
17:24.08Antiarc|WorkBlade Flurried MC'd combat rogue all up in the melee group's grill is bad news.
17:24.21Antiarc|WorkI think he BFed our tank on that side for a little over 9k.
17:24.33Antiarc|WorkSo yeah. That was a rather hilarious wipe.
17:24.34NeoTrondamn
17:24.44NeoTronsodo you put the rogue on the curator or the add?
17:24.54shieldbon the curator
17:24.56Antiarc|WorkWe've had me on the adds to date
17:25.03shieldbfor the bladeflurry deal
17:25.03Antiarc|WorkBut I am petitioning to get to stick on the curator :)
17:25.39Xonaetanyone else here use Talented?, i'm wondering why it wont accept my URL for import
17:25.52NeoTronAh - I did primarily curator last kill. Made the bolts stick to me like clue
17:25.54Antiarc|WorkI use it, but I've never done the imports.
17:26.05NeoTronI use some talent addon but not sure what it is.
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17:26.24shieldbso if your base damage on a 5 point evis was 2500, you'd do 6250 to the curator (250%) and then the add would get hit for 15625 on that same hit from bladeflurry (additional 250%)
17:26.33Antiarc|WorkNice :D
17:27.09shieldbit works like that for all the "increases damage by X%" effects - the berserking buff in battlegrounds does that, too
17:27.34shieldbor warriors with cleave have that happen, but it isn't 'every hit for 15 seconds' so it isn't as noticeable
17:27.34NimbleRabitSo I'm having a problem with a macro on my warlock.  Mind if I paste it here to see if anyone see's a problem?
17:27.37Antiarc|WorkHeh, that explains why I feel so godlike when I bust turtles with the AR+BF+Berzerking blender
17:27.47Antiarc|Work15 seconds of pure, unmitigated terror. :D
17:28.00shieldbNimbleRabit, ace.pastey.net if it's long?
17:28.26Antiarc|Workshieldb: Does that work with the BC zone buffs?
17:28.35Antiarc|WorkHellfire Superiority and the like.
17:28.35shieldbI haven't really tested it with those
17:28.41shieldbif it's a flat damage increase I'd imagine so
17:28.51shieldbbut just a 5% increase probably wouldn't be that noticable
17:29.20NimbleRabithttp://ace.pastey.net/8620 is the macro.  Basically when I click alt+keybinding on a new target my succubus is still seducing the old target.
17:29.20Antiarc|WorkNot terribly, but still a nice little boost.
17:29.21shieldbwarriors may/may not notice that all the time with deathwish, though - the secondary hit from cleave always hits harder then the first due to that
17:31.06Antiarc|WorkHm. I'd expect Sweeping Strikes to get the bonus, but I'm surprised that Cleave gets it, since Cleave's secondary damage isn't based on the first target's damage, AFAIK.
17:31.07shieldboops, it may be sweeping strikes I'm thinking of
17:31.07shieldbI don't play a warrior ;)
17:31.07shieldbwhatever their similar to bladeflurry thing is
17:31.07Antiarc|WorkYeah, sweeping strikes
17:31.28shieldbNimbleRabit, is that setting your focus target properly?
17:31.56NimbleRabitshieldb, Yes the first time I use it the focus is being set correctly.  When I hold Alt it doesn't set a new one though.
17:33.23NimbleRabitI really don't know much about macros though, if there's a different want I should be doing it please let me know
17:35.36shieldbso you're trying to have this macro fire off the various pet abilities on your focus target, and set a new one if you're holding down alt?
17:36.02Antiarc|WorkHey guys, did you know that STR increases ranged attack power (hunter weapon) and AGI increases your +hit, and +hit reduces your target's armor?
17:36.05Antiarc|WorkBlizzard said so!
17:36.06Antiarc|Workhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/characters.html
17:36.08Antiarc|Work*facepalm*
17:36.18sedatedChipmunkit doesn't
17:36.21Antiarc|WorkI know.
17:36.27Antiarc|WorkBut their stat info page says it does.
17:36.33shieldbAntiarc|Work, sitting down also increases your mana regen rate ;)
17:36.35Fisker-What blizzard says is rarely the truth what wow's concerned
17:36.43hyperChipmunkhave you read the manual lately?
17:36.44Fisker-That it does shieldb
17:36.46Fisker-out of combat
17:36.49Antiarc|WorkThe manual is way outdated
17:36.54Antiarc|WorkBut they don't have that excuse for web content
17:37.01hyperChipmunkFisker-: health does, not mana
17:37.04Fisker-oh
17:37.05NimbleRabitshieldb, Yes that's exactly what I'm trying to do.  If I hold down Alt I want it to use the ability on a new target and set a new focus.
17:37.06cncfanaticslazyness is a good excuse imo
17:37.22Fisker-QQ then
17:37.40shieldbFisker-, there's some wow basics page or somesuch where it says that it does, even though it most definitely does not in game
17:37.59Fisker-yeah thought it was both mana and health
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17:41.36PHL-Chuckanyone know why I get wierd messages like "that item isnt ready yet" when using autobar to drink?
17:41.39Ominousis wowace down?
17:41.43PHL-Chuckit works fine tho
17:42.00PHL-ChuckI can load wowace.com just fine
17:42.45NimbleRabitIs this correct if I want a macro to set a focus on my target, and to unset that focus and set a new one if I hold down alt?
17:42.50Ominoushmm half my favourites are not wirking
17:42.57NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
17:42.57NimbleRabit<PROTECTED>
17:44.17shieldbNimbleRabit, you'd want to have modifier:alt set on the /focus line instead of target=focus,noexists
17:44.38shieldbI think, anyways
17:45.34shieldbhaving it like that would clear your focus target if you had alt held down, then try to target your nonexistant focus to re-set it as a focus target again
17:46.18NimbleRabitwell I want to hold alt only when setting a new focus.  Otherwise when first setting a focus and then using it to chain cast it works fine if I just press the binding
17:46.22CIA-1103usz * r30528 10TooltipExchange/ (. Modules/Loot.lua Modules/UI.lua TooltipExchange.toc):
17:46.22CIA-11TooltipExchange
17:46.22CIA-11- Changed drop location information to item source information which shows either drop place or required materials for crafting shown item
17:46.22CIA-11- Made raid loot menu generate itself dynamically from PeriodicTable sets
17:46.40ZealotOnAStick.
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17:47.52shieldbnm, that /focus line would do what you want it to
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17:48.50Fisker-where do i go to fap?
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17:52.50trhanyone got a good suggestion for a good dkp system (via website)?
17:53.30Harshmagesupposedly there is one for WoWRoster..
17:53.39nymbiacurse is so weird...
17:53.51nymbia"Your project, Nymbia's Perl Unitframes, has been removed from Curse. Our automatic cleanup detected that your project was submited at least one day ago and has not had any files available for download. Please resubmit your project and upload applicable files if you wish to host it on Curse."
17:53.52shieldbbooo dkp! :P
17:53.55nymbiaone day, eh?
17:54.07nymbiamore like uh.. 2 years?
17:54.09nevcairiellol
17:54.23shieldbnymbia, obviously the cleanup gets run pretty regularly
17:54.34nymbiawell they'd obviously just put it in
17:54.41PHL-Chuckis perl ace'd?
17:54.43PHL-Chucklol
17:54.58nymbiaand the files all got poofed like 2 months ago at random
17:55.07PHL-ChuckI used to use it all the time but since I'm on the ace2 kick been using ag forver
17:55.25nymbiathey suddenly all had 'no mirror! please re-upload this file!'
17:55.41shieldbNimbleRabit, you might try http://ace.pastey.net/8623
17:55.49nymbiawell i uploaded it a year ago, and you guy just fat-fingered the only copy so.. /shrug
17:55.53shieldbI'm not at home and I can't actually log in to check it, though
17:56.00shieldbso it's kinda tough ;)
17:56.19NimbleRabitnoexists/dead
17:56.21NimbleRabitis that right?
17:56.30shieldba / is an 'or' operator in macro logic
17:56.35NimbleRabitoh
17:56.38CIA-1103eraslin * r30529 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/localization.enUS.lua: DKPmon_ZSumAuction: Fixed missing comma in localization.enUS.
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17:56.51shieldbso it will clear your focus target if it doesn't exist or it's dead
17:57.01nymbiawhere did our in-channel curse admins go anyway...
17:57.10nymbia~seen [Cu]Werik
17:57.38purl[cu]werik <i=trustno1@catv5403B630.pool.t-online.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 49d 10h 33m 32s ago, saying: 'nn'.
17:57.45nymbiaheh.
17:58.53kergothhm, i should use a macro for petattack that makes it focus, for when my pet and my hunter are on seperate targets, so i can monitor the health of both
17:59.06kergotheither that or dig up an old aguf patch to add a pettarget
17:59.25deltronhmm, that'd be a good idea
18:00.20shieldbNimbleRabit, with that modified version you've got with the 'seducing whatever target' party text, I'd change the /stopmacro [nogroup] line to /stopmacro [nogroup/nopet:succubus]
18:00.48shieldbotherwise you'll do the 'seducing whatever' text when you're in a group with a different pet out or no pet at all
18:01.00NimbleRabitoh yeah, thanks
18:01.58cncfanaticsanyone knows a good procwatcher ?
18:02.04cncfanaticsneed to watch 3-4 procs at the time
18:02.35NimbleRabitshieldb, hey if I add /focus [modifier:alt] do I even need /clearfocus [modifier:alt] anymore?
18:02.58shieldbyeah that should be fine
18:03.20shieldbI thought I deleted that line before posting, my bad ;)
18:03.49stavmarNimbleRabit: could you post that in a pastey again, I would like to try that macro out If i might
18:04.11NimbleRabitstavmar, http://ace.pastey.net/8626-491h
18:04.16NimbleRabitthat's the updated one that I am about to try
18:04.32stavmari will try it as well
18:04.37Funkeh`ag`: are you aware the party frame doesn't show again and no changes done in the menu take effect?
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18:04.57NimbleRabithey is there a mod that lets you make bigger macros?  I think this might be to ong
18:05.00NimbleRabitlong*
18:05.18shieldbthat's over 255, yeah
18:05.41Antiarc|WorkAnyone know what percentage of AP is given as a bonus to Swipe and Rip?
18:05.56stavmarsuper macro does
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18:06.19NimbleRabitI remember their used to be a mod called megamacro or something that moved that limit up
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18:07.17shieldbNimbleRabit, if you take out the lucky charms and the notification it fits under the limit
18:07.32CIA-1103fleetfoot * r30530 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:
18:07.32CIA-11LittleTrouble:
18:07.32CIA-11- Added support for !SurfaceControl
18:09.49stavmarNimbleRabit: so the focus, while using AGUF now shows a frame with it, is this something you like, another UF on there?
18:09.58NimbleRabiterr I need to turn off Vertical Sync to start my game up, does anyone know how to do that without starting the game?
18:10.11shieldbedit config.wtf
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18:10.23NimbleRabitstavmar, Yeah I like it
18:10.36NimbleRabitshieldb, I have no idea what to edit in there.  There is nothing named verticalsync or vsync
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18:11.12stavmarthe value of the macro is if you are dealing with mutiple mobs correct?
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18:11.54BarbanusAnyone know of a mod that tracks how many free potions you get from Alchemy Masterys?
18:11.56NimbleRabitstavmar, Yeah.  I like it for chain seducing without changing my target.  Or for spell locking the same healer in pvp without having to find him
18:13.30shieldbNimbleRabit, http://ace.pastey.net/8627 for the macro if that helps
18:13.37shieldbgogo luckycharms mod ;)
18:13.42shieldbif you weren't familiar with that one
18:14.08stavmarNimbleRabit: so some questions..the chat message is not coming up in party and what do you do to get rid o fhte tfocus target box after it is dead?
18:15.34shieldbNimbleRabit, add SET gxVSync "0" to your config.wtf
18:15.53NimbleRabitshieldb, heh thanks.
18:16.11shieldbor find SET gxVSync "1" and change it to 0 if it's in there ;)
18:16.59Barbanushmmm doesnt look like there is a mod that does it .. damn
18:17.20NimbleRabitstavmar, let me start the game up and do some testing
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18:17.54shieldbstavmar, part of the problem is that NimbleRabit and myself were sort of working on the macro and neither of us is in game ;)
18:18.24stavmarNimbleRabit: ok, i am very interested in the macro. The issue with luckycharms is what if I am not group leader in the game?
18:19.13stavmarshieldb: I understand that, I apologize for interrupting, I am just interested in teh macro as I see a real need for it on my lock while in groups
18:19.23XonaetAnyone else having a problem with Cartographer: Trainers?
18:20.34Xonaetmine constantly gives me note.title, and note.info in my general chatbox, whenever i enter the training menu of a trainer
18:20.43shieldbstavmar, oh it's no problem at all ;)
18:21.57shieldbanyone know if macro logic has conditionals for the combat state of your target?
18:22.03NimbleRabitshieldb, lmao!  The clearfocus [modifier:alt] problem was because I had "modifier: alt" instead of "modifier:alt"
18:22.11hyperChipmunknymbia: what is smooth coloring in manufac supposed to signify?
18:22.16shieldb'oops' :)
18:23.37nymbiahyperChipmunk: its a percentage of max skill level, so high level stuff sticks at the top and low level stuff sticks at the bottom.  means nothing in terms of skillups.. i think i just got tired of everything but 2 items being gray at 375 ;)
18:23.52hyperChipmunkheh
18:24.05hyperChipmunkthat shouldn't be on by default
18:24.37nymbiawell the true color is still displayed in the item's submenu
18:24.45nymbiabut you're probably right :)
18:26.09stavmarnymbia: i think it looks pretty :-)
18:26.16nymbia:D
18:27.25PHL-Chuckif I use baggins is there another mod that will let me see alt banks?  I was using ark
18:27.44kergothsanity2 or characterinfo work pretty well for that
18:27.53CIA-1103draindraftxt * r30531 10FuBar_XPerlFu/ (5 files):
18:27.53CIA-11FuBar_XPerlFu: initial commit
18:27.54CIA-11- Replaces the Functions of the XPerl-MiniMapButton
18:27.54PHL-Chuckthx :-)
18:29.15nymbiaso wait.. isnt deadly bossmods supposed to be OMG SUPER LIGHT?
18:30.03nymbiawhy is a zip with just outland stuff a meg and a half?
18:30.22deltron.bmp's i think
18:30.31nymbiagross
18:30.34kergothick, i hate bmps
18:30.34deltronlol
18:30.42nymbiadouble-declaration of localization strings
18:30.59nymbiaand in globals of course
18:31.40winkillerare there any new addons?
18:31.53nymbiawhat the.. they loadstring a bunch of stuff..
18:31.54winkillerI seem to miss out all "new and cool"
18:32.15Saint-Nthats just to make you feel dirty nym ;)
18:32.50nymbiaits horrendous
18:33.11nymbiathey CONCAT the whole thing together instead of making a multi-line string
18:33.35NeoTronlol
18:33.56nymbiatake a look http://ace.pastey.net/8628
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18:34.17NeoTronomg. wtf
18:34.37NeoTronthat is horrid
18:34.49nymbiaSaint-N: they succeed at making me feel dirty just for reading this crap
18:35.11deltronthat doesn't look very efficient
18:35.13NeoTronwhy the heck would you do something like that?
18:35.24hyperChipmunkwtf...why...WHY?
18:35.45NeoTronfirst of all, why use loadstring at all?
18:35.54nymbiathere's no reason to.
18:36.11NeoTronwell I think you just proved that.. some code is better than other
18:36.21hyperChipmunki'm guessing someone somewhere read something like, "loadstring makes things faster"
18:36.35nymbiahahaha
18:36.45kergothif by faster you mean slower, then absolutely
18:36.55nymbiaand concat'ing the whole thing beforehand
18:36.59nymbiaBRILLIANT
18:37.03NeoTronthey must be loading that code for more than one command or something?
18:37.09nymbiayes
18:37.20NeoTronstill makes no fricking sense
18:37.24nymbiabut they could do the same exact thing through normal code
18:37.30NeoTronroght
18:38.14shieldbgotta obfuscate code to make it so that others can camp you out somehow, I guess? :P
18:38.24NeoTronjust remove the loadstring and all that other crap and .. also string.format('%q', index)... EVERY TIME IT'S USED!
18:38.27NeoTronwoot
18:38.39nymbiashieldb: i'd believe that if it was obfuscated at all
18:38.43NeoTronI don't know how slow that might be but.. wtf not do that once in t a local variable :)
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18:41.02Saint-Nyay cirk updated his chat manager
18:42.00hyperChipmunkthat's almost exactly the sort of thing i'd write in response to someone saying something like, "ace makes your addon faster and lighter"
18:42.21Saint-Noh if only creating a dynamic xml window with a fixed height and width and slider were as simple as one would believe it to be
18:43.06nymbiahttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4940/deadly-boss-mods-la-vendetta/#comment_241581
18:43.07Saint-Nace2: Because we can.
18:43.16Saint-Nthats the ace2 motto ;P
18:43.20CIA-1103draindraftxt * r30532 10FuBar_XPerlFu/FuBar_XPerlFu.toc: FuBar_XPerlFu: Upadeted .toc File
18:43.27Saint-Nit has nothing to do with form an functionality
18:43.34Saint-Nits merely to show off ;P
18:43.56nymbiashow off.. not using loadstring! yes!
18:43.57Saint-Nace2 is the python of the ui-addon world ;P
18:44.07haste"k" :)
18:44.15Saint-Nyou dont have to use it but people will instantly think you're cool if you do ;)
18:44.20Funkeh`ag`: ping
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18:44.32hastethat's more like a disease tho' Saint-N
18:44.35Saint-Nheh
18:44.38Saint-Ntrue
18:44.41Saint-Nhah haste
18:44.47Saint-Nyou said K and karl showed up
18:44.51Saint-Ndo another letter!!!
18:44.57BarbanusI'm sure there is some way to cleanse disease easily in Ace2 tho
18:45.10ckknightClick2Cast
18:45.14ckknighthrm?
18:45.23ckknightshift-left-click is cleanse for me
18:45.29nymbiawhat the... return(loadstring("return "..tostring(var))());
18:45.34Barbanusnow we need to have a unit frame that shows Ace2, so we can cleanse disease from it
18:46.32hasteagUF?
18:46.43hasteand the three other UF on the SVN :p
18:46.53nymbiapun haste ;)
18:46.53Barbanusoh man .. you guys are just not getting it ...
18:46.54Saint-Nat least there arent -- was really drunk when i coded this so it may not work right
18:47.01Barbanusits ruined now anyways
18:47.03Saint-Nlike the mud i used to code and play on
18:47.14hasteI blame the beer
18:47.19Saint-N-- not sure what this does but it breaks things when removed
18:47.23hasteand the recent amount of lack of sleep
18:47.26BarbanusI was trying to figure out how to cleanse the disease from Ace2, that you mentioned was there haste :P
18:47.30Saint-N-- yeah screw you..it works!
18:47.42Saint-Nthere were some awesome comments in that code
18:47.49hastefor _, v in pairs(_G) do v = nil end
18:48.21Saint-NBarbanus: i got it, it was just rocky and bullwinkle joke quality so i left it alone ;P
18:48.36Barbanushaha yea Saint-N :)
18:48.42Saint-Nand now for something we hope youll really like
18:48.51Barbanusdoes anyone know if you make extra potions from Master of Potions, if it simply says "you receive [Mana Potion] x 3"?
18:49.04Saint-Ni think so
18:49.21kenlyricyes, that's how it works.
18:49.29Barbanushmm so to track that .. I would have to know how many that recipe is supposed to make
18:49.32kenlyricjust like if you had looted 3
18:49.32NeoTronnymbia: is that seriously a piece of code present in an addon?
18:49.45kenlyricsince potions always make 1, that shouldn't be hard.
18:49.56Barbanusdo they always?
18:50.02nymbiaNeoTron: deadly bossmods.
18:50.11kergothnymbia: that shit boggles the mind.
18:50.11NeoTronnymbia: that's just mind boggling
18:50.16nymbiahahaha
18:50.17NeoTronit really makes no sense in any way
18:50.20nymbiaseriously
18:50.31nymbiai posted a comment on their curse page
18:50.33NeoTronone would wonder what's wrong with: return tostring(var)
18:50.38wereHamsternymbia, if you want to convert a string to lua variables (suppose you serialized some lua variables into a string), then loadstring() is teh easiest way
18:50.56nymbiawereHamster: did you see the code?
18:51.10kergothwereHamster: i'm certain nymbia knows what loadstring is good for, but thats not what they're doing with it.  they're using it all over teh place unnecessarily
18:51.12NeoTronloadstring has uses but that is not one of them (the examples)
18:51.57Saint-NNo no we don't die
18:51.58Saint-NYes we mul-ti-ply
18:51.58Saint-NAnyone test will hear the fat lady sing
18:52.20BarbanusHmm looks like the only thing that makes multiple for Alchemy is Transmute: Elemental Fire
18:52.21wereHamsternymbia, yeah, I just saw the code.. scary O.o
18:52.27Saint-NHere comes the hotstepper, murderer
18:52.27Saint-NI'm the lyrical gangster, murderer
18:52.27Saint-NExcuse me mister officer, murderer
18:52.27Saint-NStill love you like that, murderer
18:52.29Saint-Nsorry
18:52.40Saint-Ni figured if i had that song in my head you all needed to as well
18:52.42nymbiawereHamster: indeed
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18:53.31nymbiawereHamster: the other snipped i posted was from a local getglobal function they have
18:54.49wereHamsternymbia, you mean this: return(loadstring("return "..tostring(var))()); ?
18:54.56nymbiayeah
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18:55.12nymbiaheh, he responded to my comment
18:55.20nymbia@Nymbia: Hmmm...it was a simple way to create dynamic slash commands. Ok it's ugly but it works and I don't see a reason do recode the slash command stuff :<
18:56.22Saroz_who did
18:56.22Saroz_where
18:56.45NeoTronbut.. doesn't it work exactly the same without loadstring?
18:57.17nymbiaSaroz_: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4940/deadly-boss-mods-la-vendetta/
19:00.03kergothhe must have a much different definition of "simple" than i do.
19:00.28Saroz_use bigwigs
19:00.28Saroz_kk
19:00.39MoonWolfor maybe is a bit thinkheaded
19:01.51Barbanuswhat ...
19:01.52Barbanusthe ...
19:01.55Barbanusfuck ..
19:02.03BarbanusOkay .. I'm done .. had to get that out of my system
19:02.30Saint-Nhttp://searchwithkevin.prodege.com/
19:02.50Saint-N^^ that is funny
19:03.05BarbanusOkay, I'm not a lua expert .. by any stretch .. but what would be the difference between that big loadstring mess .. and just putting it as code?
19:03.13NeoTronnone
19:03.15BarbanusI dont see the purpose
19:03.31NeoTronexcept loadstrnig is slower, ugly, and less maintainable?
19:03.36kergothit clearly has no purpose besides adding a ton of unnecessary complexity and making maintainance more difficult
19:03.39Barbanus....
19:03.49JoshBorkeor they don't know better?
19:04.05NeoTronI mean if he had used dynamically named methods or something sure but he's just dynamically generating parameter values..
19:04.42Barbanusso remove all of the extra quotes .. the '..' at the end of the lines, and remove it out of the loadstring .. and its exactly the same? ...
19:05.34Saint-Nhttp://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/Porsche_dealer_I_got_it_wrong_with_the_buy_one_get_one_free_card
19:05.43NeoTronBarbanus: something like that
19:06.42NeoTronit's lke he doesn't understand that you can do 'DBM.AddOns.'..index..'.OnEvent' instead of "...'DBM.AddOns."..index..".OnEvent'..."
19:07.18nymbiayeah
19:07.26wereHamster.. it's like he doesn't know about upvalues
19:07.36nymbiaheh
19:07.44kergothhow can you know about loadstring but not about upvalues
19:07.46wereHamstersomeone should tell him that they exist..
19:07.53kergothi hate repeating myself, but it boggles the mind
19:07.55NeoTron"DBM.AddMsg(DBM_MOD_DISABLED, "..string.format('%q', value.Name)..");\n" is the same as DBM.AddMsg(DBM_MOD_DISABLED, value.Name); isn't it? heh
19:08.10NeoTrongiven value.Name is a string
19:08.19wereHamsterNeoTron, no
19:08.20kergothwereHamster: probably in the section about functions/closures
19:08.28NeoTrondunno what %q does
19:08.32kergoth%q quotes iirc
19:08.33NeoTronbut I assumed quote?
19:08.37wereHamstersorry, you're right
19:08.50NeoTronhe quotes it because it puts is into a string to loadstring
19:08.59NeoTronheh
19:09.00wereHamsterI didn't see the outer quotes at first
19:09.01NeoTronso.. silly
19:09.25NeoTronfirst string becomes DBM.AddMsg(DBM_MOD_DISABLED, "THE VALUE of value.Name")
19:10.18Saroz_wtf, which event fires "Nightbane's Smoking Blast hits x for y"
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19:18.03NimbleRabitDo pet's have their own focus target?  if so how do I access it in a macro
19:18.13hyperChipmunk'pettarget'
19:18.36nymbiaSaroz_: maybe CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_PARTY_DAMAGE ?
19:18.45hyperChipmunkthey don't get a 'focus', but thy get a target
19:19.38Saroz_nah
19:19.57Saroz_seems to be CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_DAMAGE
19:20.37Saroz_eh CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_DAMAGE
19:20.38Saroz_i mean
19:20.45NimbleRabithyperChipmunk, thanks.  Don't think that will work for me though.
19:20.49kenlyricooh, pets do have a target?
19:21.02hyperChipmunkyep
19:21.12hyperChipmunki've been meaning to add an ag unitframe for it
19:21.17wereHamsteronly female characters should get a 'focus' unit.. males are notoriously bad at multitasking (that's proven by scientists!), males couldn't keep track of two units.. 'target' and 'focus' ... just a thought
19:21.40kenlyriclol
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19:21.50kenlyrici have 10 units to keep track of. 1 more isn't all that bad.,
19:21.54nymbiaspeaking of unit ids, is there one for the maintank/mainassist things in the raid ui?
19:23.13kenlyricI generally use focus for shackles. I need a screenshake for when those break :)
19:23.13kenlyricthough, the screen does usually shake enough when i die.
19:23.38nymbialol
19:24.34kenlyricwhen that whirlwind mod (the fury warrior?) breaks on moroes... ow
19:24.39kenlyric*mob
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19:25.43CIA-1103mulesh * r30533 10aUF_Layouts/ (16 files):
19:25.43CIA-11aUF_Layouts:
19:25.43CIA-11Added - Aly, ZephLeft, and Stanko layouts
19:25.43CIA-11Various fixes and updates for compatibility
19:26.23nymbiastanko?
19:26.25Saroz_bigwigs api isnt that good when it comes to icons
19:26.25Saroz_:|
19:26.29Saroz_cant place two icons in 2 fight
19:26.30Affen_Uzglughi, i have a problem with AceCommZone being my 1. channel. i googled and the results show that cartagropher could cause that
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19:26.47Affen_Uzglugbut how do i leave the channel? /leave 1 doesnt work
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19:27.11hyperChipmunkyou can never leave...you are stuck there...forever
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19:27.18nymbiacartographer doesnt join any zone channels as far as i'm aware.
19:27.22hyperChipmunk(dun dun dunnnnnn)
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19:28.08Affen_Uzglugnymbia: Okay okay! Removed code that caused AceComm to join the AceCommZone channel, which would mess up some users' channels.
19:29.03nymbiaAffen_Uzglug: i dont see that commit message in cartographer anywhere.
19:29.39Affen_UzglugCommit by overloadut :: r29911 Cartographer_QuestObjectives/addon.lua: .. not cartographer itself
19:30.38nymbiaif acecomm is protecting it against being left, some addon is probably using it
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19:44.16OverloadUTAcecomm really needs to fix that bug :(
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19:52.48NimbleRabitFinally fixed my macros for my warlock, posted them at http://ace.pastey.net/8645 if anyone is looking for some useful warlock macros.
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20:05.41ggilbertkergoth: ping
20:07.38Amadeonice macros, I might edit a couple and use :)
20:10.03CIA-1103nymbia * r30534 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
20:10.03CIA-11Manufac:
20:10.03CIA-11- Default smooth difficulty coloring to disabled.
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20:14.45NeoTronI need to fix up my macros
20:14.55NeoTronand primarily I need to stop using the same one for banish and fear >:-)
20:15.07NeoTron(yes, I just end up editing every time I need to switch it()
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20:16.59NeoTronNimbleRabit: ok one comment - might be nicer to make the VW sac only be cast in combat unless a modifier is held down?
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20:17.54Antiarc|WorkIs there a way to use skills based on cooldown yet, other than /castrandom?
20:18.00Antiarc|Workie, Victory Rush if it's up, Bloodthirst if not?
20:18.16Antiarc|Work(I highly doubt it, but I haven't kept up on macros)
20:18.17NeoTronoh so that's what you can use castrandom for
20:18.26Antiarc|WorkYeah, mashable button to cast multiple skills
20:18.31Antiarc|WorkAlso good for random mount selection
20:18.40NeoTronwhich skips things on cooldown
20:18.46NeoTronI normally use castsequence
20:18.47Antiarc|WorkIt doesn't skip them on cooldown, IIRC
20:18.50NeoTronfor dots
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20:19.06Antiarc|WorkThe idea is that if you have two entries, each push has a 50% chance of getting the one you want
20:19.07NeoTronsince randomly casting things seems a bit .. unfocused
20:19.11Antiarc|WorkSo you mash the button and get what you want :)
20:19.17NeoTronah
20:19.22CIA-1103nymbia * r30535 10Manufac/ (Manufac.lua Manufac.toc libs/):
20:19.22CIA-11Manufac:
20:19.22CIA-11- Move options table to self.options from a local so modules can mess with it.
20:19.22CIA-11- Add AceModuleCore to mixins, toc, and externals.
20:23.05CIA-1103mulesh * r30536 10Friendminder/ (Friendminder.lua Friendminder.toc):
20:23.05CIA-11Friendminder:
20:23.05CIA-11fixed sync (again) - shouldnt spam anymore
20:23.05CIA-11fixed delete command
20:23.54vhaarrWhat key do I set in Config.wtf to save screenshots as JPG?
20:24.26hasteMac only!
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20:24.36vhaarrReally?
20:24.38hasteand it's an option, so check it there
20:24.39haste(yes)
20:24.41Loki|muhMac only? teh suck0rz!
20:25.25HarshmageMacs rule as WoW machines
20:26.01evlMacs rule period
20:26.41OminousMacs > PCs if you dont already have pc software which wld need rebuying
20:26.52JJSheetsI'm a PC kind of guy, but I've been advising my customers to buy a mac before the even think about messing with Vista...
20:27.23OminousJJSheets.... anything new on the plate for FB?
20:27.24chutwigmain downside to playing WoW on a mac is ventrilo
20:27.50Harshmagewhich there's a beta client out for..
20:28.03chutwigwhich doesn't support GSM, but thanks for playing
20:28.25JJSheetsOminous, I'm burnt out on bar mod programming and cncfanatics has exams coming up.  I wouldn't expect anything but bug fixes any time soon tbh.
20:28.26Harshmagebah
20:28.50OminousJJSheets, oki
20:29.29cncfanaticsOminous, indeed
20:29.34cncfanaticswill start coding after exams
20:29.51Ominousexams FTL, mine are in late may/june
20:30.17nymbiaspeex isnt bad as long as the windows people have the beta client
20:30.34cncfanaticsOminous, I got some in june too
20:30.42chutwigspeex works fine but the problem is with places like nrgservers that default to GSM and won't switch the server to speex
20:30.47Ominouswhare are u from cnc?
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20:35.40ravagernlvhaarr i have a question
20:35.58cncfanaticsbelgium, Ominous
20:36.10cncfanaticsnot at university yet though, thats why I got lots of exams
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20:55.44kenlyricwtb a mod that caches inspections.
20:55.53kenlyricI hate when people log off or run away.
20:56.17Hjaltekenlyric, superinspect does
20:56.38nymbiavoyeur does too
20:56.43PHL-Chuckvoyuer seems to be now, when people run out of range it keeps the stuff
20:57.03PHL-ChuckI miss the 'totals' tho I think super inspect does
20:59.09art3missuper inspect does
20:59.13add\\Leialyncan anyone update Babble-Boss deDE please?
20:59.14add\\Leialyn["Fathom-Lord Karathress"] = "Tiefenlord Karathress",
20:59.14add\\Leialyn["Morogrim Tidewalker"] = "Morogrim Gezeitenwandler",
20:59.14add\\Leialyn["Leotheras the Blind"] = "Leotheras der Blinde",
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21:03.14ravagernlhmm, how do you hide the default blizzard castingbar?
21:03.26nymbiaadd\\Leialyn: the current ones are incorrect?
21:03.54add\\Leialynthey are english, aren't they ?
21:04.19nymbia["Fathom-Lord Karathress"] = "Faden-Lord Karathress",
21:04.26nymbia["Morogrim Tidewalker"] = "Morogrim Flutengeher",
21:04.32add\\Leialynyes incorrect
21:04.35nymbia["Leotheras the Blind"] = "Leotheras der Blinde",
21:04.48add\\Leialynok the blind is correct but lord and tide are wrong
21:04.55nymbiaok
21:07.19Saroz_ag`_, combat text bugged
21:08.02CIA-1103nymbia * r30537 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
21:08.02CIA-11.Babble-Boss-2.2:
21:08.02CIA-11- Update deDE Serpentshrine bosses, thanks add\\Leialyn.
21:10.14BankZWhats the difference in Clearfont and Clearfont2?
21:10.34add\\Leialyncf2 is for 2.x I guess
21:10.34BankZis clearfont still being updated? or should I just use Clearfont2?
21:10.49Silviu-BankZ use Cf2
21:10.59KirkburnYour answers are here - http://www.clearfont.co.uk/ :)
21:10.59CIA-1103mulesh * r30538 10aUF_Layouts/ (CTRA.lua CiathDiscord.lua aUF_Layouts.toc oUF.lua xLevus.lua): aUF_Layouts: - fixed typos in oUF, xLevus, CTRA, and CaithDiscord
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21:11.59Silviu-good night ;)
21:13.29Fisker-hahaha
21:13.38Fisker-the crone + 3 resto shamans + 1 prot warrior
21:13.47Fisker-= ooooooooneeee loooooooooooong fiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
21:13.48Fisker-:(
21:15.18Fisker-QQ
21:15.20Fisker-wiped on 40%
21:16.15BankZok, stupid question, WTF does QQ mean?
21:16.25JJSheetscry
21:16.32JJSheetsQQ more means cry more.
21:16.36shieldbQQ represents "crying eyes" as an emoticon, and usually is used as "Cry more"
21:16.46BankZahhh
21:17.08shieldbI'm not positive on the emoticon aspect, though the tails of the Qs as the tears sorta makes sense to me
21:17.12BankZits like all of the sudden everyone is saying QQ
21:17.14BankZlol
21:18.02BankZI guess I should QQ over ppl saying QQ
21:18.07JJSheetslol
21:18.13shieldbBankZ, now you've got it :)
21:18.28CIA-1103wmrojer * r30539 10CharacterInfoStorage/ (. CharacterInfoStorage.toc):
21:18.28CIA-11CharacterInfoStorage :
21:18.28CIA-11- Updated toc with used libraries. Added Abacus and AceHook-2.1
21:20.48CIA-1103funkydude * r30540 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/: BigWigs_GruulAssist: create folder
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21:21.49BankZwhat do you guys like better, deadly boss mod or bigwigs?
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21:22.21Funkeh`what do you think
21:22.36NightHawkTheSaneI would think it's fairly obvious.
21:22.37Fisker-fukken bigwigs
21:22.53Funkeh`i would think it wopuld be easier to uplaod this thing
21:22.58Funkeh`how do i add a new addon
21:23.02PHL-Chuckomg I'm so glad someone explained QQ to me
21:23.03JJSheetscarefully
21:23.06PHL-Chuckhow about XD
21:23.11PHL-Chuck"X D"
21:23.12Funkeh`in tortoise
21:23.13Fisker-XD = :D
21:23.13PHL-Chucklol
21:23.18Fisker-just with crossed eyes
21:23.24JJSheetsPhatrik, XD is a big squinty eyed smile.  :)
21:23.26CIA-1103wmrojer * r30541 10MailInfo/ (. MailInfo.lua MailInfo.toc MailInfo.xml): (log message trimmed)
21:23.26CIA-11MailInfo:
21:23.26CIA-11- Requires CharacterInfoStorage
21:23.26CIA-11- Drop down with recipients in send mail frame.
21:23.27CIA-11- All your chars are added automaticaly to know recipients list
21:23.27CIA-11- Chars you send mails to are added the the recipients list
21:23.29CIA-11- Tracks mails that you send you your alt chars and notifies you when they are delivered.
21:23.38JJSheetsbah PHL-Chuck not Phatrik  XD
21:23.50NightHawkTheSane<3 autocomplete
21:23.54JJSheetslol
21:23.56PHL-Chuckthx hehe
21:24.06JJSheetsindeed
21:24.37Funkeh`can someone explain to me how to add a new addon in tortoise? xD
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21:25.13PHL-ChuckI gave up on that, WAU is great for me as an end user
21:25.29Funkeh`as in, upload
21:25.34NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: erm, do you mean import an addon into the repo?
21:25.39Funkeh`yep
21:25.55Cryectyou just rightclick on commmit adirectory
21:26.10Cryectthere is a good tutorial on wowace
21:26.21Cryectoh wait import
21:26.21Cryecthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners
21:26.22NightHawkTheSaneNo idea how to do that via tortoise, but I suspect if you looked at the usage of 'svn import' that'd be a clue
21:27.08JJSheetsFunkeh`, cryect's last link is the best beginners place for tortoise.
21:27.11Cryectjust make sure you have your autoproperties set right
21:27.50Cryecthaha
21:28.03CryectI don't like the autoproperties on the wiki actually
21:28.21Cryectit leaves off svn:keyword=Revision for lua files
21:29.38JoshBorkeCryect: heya :-)
21:30.00Funkeh`can't add a file because it doesn't have eol passive, but i can't add that untill its on the svn..
21:30.28CryectJoshBorke: Hey, don't know if you saw but I implemented the status bar change worked out to a 8% performance boost so it was worth it for how easy it was
21:30.39CryectFunkeh` one second
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21:31.00Cryectwhoops >_>
21:31.16JoshBorkelol
21:31.32Cryectclick FIle->TortoiseSVN->Settings click general
21:31.41CryectClick edit the Subversion configuration file:
21:32.01Cryecthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps
21:32.38Cryectadd to *.lua  also ;svn:keywords=Revision
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21:33.37CIA-1103wmrojer * r30542 10FuBar_CharacterInfoFu/ (. FuBar_CharacterInfoFu.toc):
21:33.37CIA-11FuBar_CharacterInfoFu :
21:33.38CIA-11- Cleaned up the toc file
21:35.05Fisker-:O
21:37.16Funkeh`cryect, do i add that at the bottom of the file or overwrite the other auto props
21:37.27JJSheetsI'd add it at the bottom
21:37.40Barbanus*.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native;svn:keywords=Revision
21:37.54JJSheetsjust make sure your notepad doesn't change the file extension.  :)
21:37.58Stephmwevenin
21:39.16Cryectyeah add the stuff from the wiki at the bottom and replace the *.lua line with what Barbanus wrote
21:41.57Funkeh`alright, so i went repo browser and added file, added the toc and it complains about eol again
21:42.13Funkeh`fucking tortoise
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21:43.13PHL-Chuck\/\/0--<\/\/ = dying in a fire?
21:43.24Cryectput the error message in a pasty?
21:43.36Cryectmight be you're trying to upload a file type that isn't specified
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21:52.09Yinchieanyone remember the website with the armory php tools stuff?
21:52.36JoshBorkehttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/
21:52.43Yinchiecheers
21:53.15renchapcombat text dont works with aguf :/
21:54.46Kaeltenhows it going guys?
21:55.03JJSheetsgood
21:56.52Kaeltenthats good :)
21:58.03break19Kaelten: there you are. heh
21:58.17CIA-1103kirson * r30543 10ItemSync/ (. ItemSync.toc):
21:58.17CIA-11ItemSync:
21:58.18CIA-11Corrected error in externals (AceHook-2.0 is no longer in Ace2)
21:58.18CIA-11Removed references to AceHook-2.0 from toc
21:58.21break19Kaelten: been tryin to get "a holt" of ya for a couple days :)
21:58.33Kaelten:P
21:59.02break19just wondering, with kci2 is the auto-fill function not, well.. fully functional yet? I've noticed its putting very low prices in there, and not market values
21:59.40break19.. unless of course, I put my *own* price, and then it remembers it, even if the market values drop a bit below my price.
21:59.46Kaeltenya its not up to bar to what I end up with
21:59.57Kaeltento what I want to end up with rather
22:00.40break19kk, just checking.. i've also noticed an intermittant tooltip-related error. I'll give ya that when it pops up again
22:00.56break19its a nil value ? thing
22:01.17Kaeltenthe tooltip system is going under some changes right now.  I'm working on adding a triple column function
22:01.32Barbanusdoes the Tradeskill Listing Generator and the Guild Class Statistics Comparison Generator work for anyone on Antiarc's armory page?
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22:02.01Funkeh`cryect: basically it starts adding then errors out about eol
22:02.07Funkeh`cryect: you want the full error?
22:02.27JJSheetsFunkeh`, pastey it.
22:02.40Funkeh`alright
22:02.47kergothsounds like he didnt follow instructions by setting up his autoprops.
22:02.49kergothrtfm.
22:02.54JJSheetslol
22:02.55break19Kaelten: kk, might I also suggest re-implementing the "embedded" style as an option? I prefer it really.. multiple tooltip windows looks .. kludgy to me :)
22:03.09Kaeltenhrm perhaps down the line I will
22:03.16Funkeh`kergoth: shh
22:03.18Kaeltenright now I'm working on getting my desired set of options to work really well.
22:03.25break19understandable
22:03.25Kaeltenthen I'll look at changing it
22:03.45Kaeltenbut I'm going to have this kinda output
22:03.45break19it *is* after all your baby, so feel free to tell me to buzz off :p
22:04.11KaeltenBuyout:  5g 3s 23c to 9g 55s 0c
22:04.31Kaeltenna I welcome constructive feedback :)
22:04.51break19good, because I love giving it. lol
22:05.00Kaeltenand I'll end up adding in features later on, but just like I did with onebag I want something that works before I start making it too complicated
22:05.03CIA-1103funkydude * r30544 10/BigWigs_GruulAssist/ (. BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua BigWigs_GruulAssist.toc): BigWigs_GruulAssist: initial commit?
22:05.09Funkeh`pwnd you kegoth
22:05.11JoshBorkecause we all know how far you took OneBag :_P
22:05.13Funkeh`kergoth*
22:05.30KaeltenJoshBorke: :P its simplicity is deceiving
22:05.32Kaeltenyou should know :P
22:05.34Fisker-i want kci2 not to fail Kaelten
22:05.47JoshBorkeit's too late fisker, he let me commit something to it
22:05.58Cryectheh guess you figure out how to fix it Funkeh`?
22:06.00Kaeltenlol
22:06.03Funkeh`yeah
22:06.15Funkeh`i shouldn't have added it at the bottom
22:06.18Funkeh`but overwrite it
22:06.23Funkeh`i blame JJSheets
22:06.32CIA-1103kaelten 07Ace2 * r30545 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua KC_Items.lua): KC_Items (Ace 2) - a few good changes and a few bad, may not want to update just yet :)
22:06.54break19what'd ya break? lol
22:07.26Kaeltenone of the lines of tooltip output doesn't show
22:07.47break19which line, so I can decide whether I wanna test it anyway or not.
22:08.36JoshBorketripple price line
22:08.38JoshBorkeit looks like
22:08.44kergothFunkeh`: next time read the svn book before wasting people's time on irc, thanks
22:09.07Kaeltenum the first auction price that showed up before
22:09.08Funkeh`thanks for your comment kergoth
22:09.31Funkeh`i asked and they helped, it wqas their choice
22:09.52KaeltenJoshBorke: ya its not quite done yet
22:09.56Kaelten:)
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22:10.15break19k, I'll just revert if it removes the info *I* care about. :)
22:10.25Kaeltenhehe
22:11.27JoshBorkewhat does KC stand for?  are they your initials?
22:11.29Kaeltenalso any input on my branching linkview into its own mod?
22:11.33KaeltenKaelCycle
22:11.36CIA-1103funkydude * r30546 10/BigWigs_GruulAssist/ (. BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua BigWigs_GruulAssist.toc Libs/): BigWigs_GruulAssist: fix properties and externals
22:11.52Ominousanyone know a good free ftp server software
22:12.03KaeltenOminous: for what os?
22:12.09Ominousvista
22:12.18Kaeltennope, no idea on windows :)
22:12.31JJSheetsI'd say windows explorer Ominous.
22:12.40JoshBorkei'd forgot how slow my laptop is :-(
22:12.49NightHawkTheSanewinscp?
22:13.03JoshBorkehe said server software
22:13.13NightHawkTheSaneoh, server. my bad
22:13.25JJSheetsah... nm... I'll just run back to playing my druid after extracting that foot there...
22:14.22hastewhy did funkydude commit BigWigs_GruulAssist to the ROOT directory of the SVN? :)
22:14.23kergothFunkeh`: you're quite welcome.  i'm always happy to show what a lazy jackass you are, not that its that difficult.
22:14.35break19what? you mean you cant just open the sharing preferences and enable the server? damn.. MS *still* lags behind apple on network stuff.
22:15.55Ominousi wld go for apple, but a) too poor since i got pc and when i got it i didnt think and b) i have office etc for windows
22:15.59Funkeh`because i forgot to add /trunk haste
22:16.11break19my default Mac OS X install has web server, ssh access, ftp access, smb(thats windows file sharing for you ms nuts) and afs (thats apple file sharing) and xgrid (turn your lan macs into one big computer)
22:16.39break19Ominous: mac mini $599 - solid system for the price
22:16.46JoshBorkebb
22:16.48Ominousremember im in uk
22:16.53CIA-1103funkydude * r30547 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/: BigWigs_GruulAssist: removed
22:16.57Ominousthere for ittle be about 600
22:17.01break19Ominous: store.apple.com :)
22:17.16CIA-1103funkydude * r30548 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/: BigWigs_GruulAssist: copy
22:17.36break19still tho.. for the price, thats a pretty good system.
22:17.41CIA-1103funkydude * r30549 10/BigWigs_GruulAssist/: BigWigs_GruulAssist: remove
22:17.50Saroz_MORE SPAM
22:18.09break19and the mac pro beats the dell xps (which is the closest fair comparison) by about 500 to 1000k USD
22:18.16kergothwe have a sandbox svn for a reason.  use it before cluttering up the main one, please.
22:18.18break19err 500 to 1k USD
22:19.01Kaeltenno feedback on taking linkview and making it a stand alone addon?
22:19.17CIA-1103funkydude * r30550 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/Libs/: BigWigs_GruulAssist: fix rosterlib
22:19.48break19Kaelten: many other addons already provide that functionality, and do it well.. so might even just drop that part completely.
22:19.51Funkeh`done
22:20.09Kaeltenbreak19: its on the end of my list as far as things to implement
22:21.20Saroz_IsItemInRange(L["Heavy Netherweave Bandage"], u.name)
22:21.22Saroz_CLEVER
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22:21.47Funkeh`lol
22:21.59Saroz_who thought of that
22:22.18Funkeh`some guy on curse made a really really bad hack of cthunwarner
22:22.21Funkeh`and used that
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22:22.51Funkeh`then someone else on curse made a bad hack of bw_cthhunassist
22:22.56Funkeh`that gave me the idea
22:24.36Cryecthow do you change the distance to 20 yds curious?
22:24.40nymbiaFunkeh`: actually that'll be handy, someone in my guild was asking about something like that last night
22:24.58Guillotineanybody know of a good addon for making a blacklist/whitelist of players? Preferably Ace :)
22:25.16nymbiaFunkeh`: i'll be pissed if it doesnt give me free purples.
22:25.23Funkeh`lol nymbia
22:25.28Funkeh`feel free to test though
22:25.37Funkeh`i only tested it once
22:25.48Funkeh`i grabbed the hack from curse whihc was brroken and recoded it a bit
22:25.53Cryectoh you test to see if you can bandage
22:25.57Funkeh`aye
22:26.15Funkeh`tbh the guy who thought of that needs a medal
22:26.19CryectForgot they added spell range checking with 2.0
22:26.30Funkeh`http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6776/gruulwarner/
22:26.30CryectI remember thinking when I read that you would be able to do all sorts of cool stuff with it
22:26.45CryectI need to rewrite my code for tracking players inside of instances
22:26.49Funkeh`such a bad hack
22:27.06Funkeh`hehe cryect :)
22:27.18StephmwCryect: we were talking about that before... one hurdle we couldn't think a way around - how do you determine orientation of your member cluster?
22:27.25CryectIt worked fine in IMBA before 2.0
22:27.30Cryectelse than I had nothing to display it :-p
22:27.45CryectWhat do you mean determine orientation?
22:27.51Cryectyou can get player orientation via the compass
22:28.42Stephmwso you have a web of distance-to-players plus the feedback of all their directions too? I hadn't thought of that
22:28.49Stephmwhow precise is the compass? degrees?
22:28.53CryectI mean I had it working pretty much 100% with autosyncing with players for when they relog etc
22:28.56CryectExact
22:29.05Stephmwsuperb
22:29.13Funkeh`imba had a 2.0?
22:29.15CryectNow do you know how to get player coordinates ;)
22:29.18Funkeh`private release i guess? :P
22:29.26CryectDid I never release it publically?
22:29.31Funkeh`dunno
22:29.33CryectNo for woW 2.0
22:29.39Funkeh`aah
22:29.40Funkeh`alright
22:29.48StephmwCryect: don't think you can get absolute coords. but you could always base 0,0 on the instance entry
22:29.48CryectI want to do a rewrite of IMBA sometime though
22:29.59Funkeh`it was a nice mod
22:29.59StephmwCryect: and do everything afterwards as relatives
22:30.00CryectNo you can get absolute coordinates
22:30.07Funkeh`2.0 broke a lot of cool stuff though
22:30.18CryectI had perfect absolute coordinates
22:30.30StephmwCryect: I'd be up to trialling an updated addon with my regular 5-man
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22:31.01CryectBut I mean what was your technique for getting coordinates?
22:31.21Cryectmy methodology is via abusing pings
22:33.02art3mishow do you make cart NOT update the map when you're in an instance i keep looking at loot in SM and everytime i select an item it redrawns the map
22:33.21nymbiaart3mis: its another addon doing that
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22:33.30art3miswhich?
22:33.34art3misinstance_maps?
22:33.49art3misor diod you mean not a cart related addon
22:34.11CryectI think a friend of mine used my player position tracking code for his autoit  travel bot
22:34.27CryectI know he was messing with not sure if he released that version though
22:34.29nymbiaart3mis: might not even be map-related
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22:39.23CIA-1103ag * r30551 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Fixed bug where settings wouldn't apply without /rl
22:39.54Cryecthaha thats an interesting bug
22:41.10Funkeh`ag`: did that fix the party frame hiding, again?
22:41.23ag`_Funkeh`: no idea
22:41.35Funkeh`alright ill test it
22:43.27break19Cryect: tell him to remove any profiling addons..
22:43.57break19i had an issue where a profiling addon caused cart to change locations while looking at maps other than my current zone
22:44.16Cryecthuh?
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22:45.04Cryectoh you are responding to art3mis's request
22:45.22Cryectyeah its annoying there is no way for addons to access map info individually
22:45.49break19Cryect: oh, yea. sorry. my bad.
22:46.33CryectI guess if you do everything in 1 function call and restore things back to normal it shouldn't be an issue though
22:46.35NimbleRabitIs there a way to get around the 255 macro limit?  I tried supermacro but it didn't seem to be working properly.
22:46.44CryectExcept I seem to recall there was a delay
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22:47.14ElkanoNimbleRabit, maybe chained macros?
22:47.20Barbanus255 is a pretty big macro these days
22:47.26Barbanuswith the new macro stuff
22:47.43Guillotineand if you're using lua, you can just use something like LuaSlinger
22:48.06Gagorianwell on the other hand... 255 is pretty short for a macro these days, with the new macro stuff
22:48.15Gagoriancause you can do amazing one button stuff
22:48.48Barbanususually that means like 5 modifiers to one button ... not my playstyle .. but to each their own :)
22:48.48CryectI like to see one of these amazing one button macros
22:49.45ag`_Cryect: I saw one for hunters
22:49.49ag`_it could do everything
22:49.58ag`_harder to do for a priest or something
22:50.55nymbiawell if you're using modifiers you can just split it into different macros bound to the different modifiers
22:51.01BarbanusI remember the 1 button macros pre-2.0
22:51.07Barbanusspam a button and it heals people
22:51.11Barbanusselects rank, etc
22:51.16Barbanuseven keeps hots on a tank
22:51.27GuillotineI made an addon way back when I was learning lua to play my rogue for me
22:51.32GuillotineI spammed one button and it did everything
22:51.36Cryectyeah before 2.0 it was easy to come up with a supermacro
22:51.40Guillotineall I had to do was loot every 3 mins
22:51.54NightHawkTheSaneBarbanus: pre 2.0 you could just write a simple addon to do whatever you wanted without a 255 char limit. ;)
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22:56.39renchapag`_: can you try to fix the bug with click2cast ? :D
22:57.11Funkeh`ag`_: no, party frames are gone
22:57.17Funkeh`ag`_: since the spring cleaning
22:57.35ag`_renchap: what bug
22:57.43ag`_Funkeh`: okay
22:57.49ag`_Funkeh`: I don't have a party though
22:57.55ag`_Funkeh`: you eu or us?
22:58.06shieldbqueue up for AV/AB/WSG/EotS?
22:58.19shieldbthat's what I do whenever I need to test my unitframes in a party/raid enviroment quickly ;)
22:58.21Funkeh`ag`_: EU
22:58.29renchapag`_: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5272.msg88887#msg88887
22:58.35renchapi have the same bug here
22:58.42renchap(frFR client if it helps)
22:59.13CIA-1103sayclub * r30552 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: Updated localization koKR
22:59.47ag`_Funkeh`: if you're not busy can you create a character on Ravencrest?
23:00.13Funkeh`sure
23:00.21knarf-ag`_ did you change something about the scaling in aguf ?
23:00.34ag`_knarf-: I think there's a problem with group scaling yes
23:00.57knarf-okay, guess i'll live with it untill fixed :)
23:01.23Funkeh`ag`_: horde?
23:02.10ag`_Funkeh`: alliance
23:02.29ag`_knarf-: problem is that groups are too small right?
23:02.40knarf-Ye, they do not scale to be bigger :)
23:02.55renchapag`_: my click2cast config is right, there is a problem with aguf party frames
23:02.56knarf-seems to work fine on the player frame
23:03.12ag`_renchap: I didn't notice the bug myself yet
23:03.19renchapi know
23:03.26renchapmaybe thats only with foreign clients
23:03.28ag`_knarf-: yes, but not on groups
23:03.46renchapbut thats quite annoying
23:03.54ag`_renchap: I can't think of any reason why it would suddenly break with foreign clients
23:03.55knarf-ag`_ kinda sucks being a priest not able to see their bar clearly :P
23:04.01ag`_renchap: but I'll research it
23:04.10ag`_knarf-: yep
23:04.10renchapif i can help you... :)
23:04.18knarf-ag`_ is there any custom layouts around that I can try and apply , just for being lazy :P
23:04.36renchapthere is no errors. nothing happens when i shift-clic, thats all
23:04.40Saroz_ag`_, combat text is broken
23:04.58ag`_Saroz_: not any more
23:05.02Saroz_oki :p
23:05.07ag`_seems like it got fixed
23:05.10ag`_when I fixed another bug
23:05.19JJSheetsokay, is macro targetting fucked up since a patch or something?
23:05.22ag`_worked for me 5 mins earlier right now
23:05.29ag`_Funkeh`: you in?
23:05.30Saroz_kk, believe you
23:05.30renchapmaybe my bug is fixed too
23:05.40ag`_Saroz_: but test it out
23:06.04Funkeh`ag`_ yep
23:06.12ag`_Funkeh`: name?
23:07.03renchapagtestingbot ?
23:07.22Cryectheh, should have unit testing for the addon
23:07.27Funkeh`ag`_ eternally
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23:15.23xlviihttp://www.adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
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23:21.41break19xlvii: "AMD makes inferior knockoffs of American processors in third world countries using child labor" roflmao
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23:24.45NightHawkTheSaneHmm. Anyone had an issue with the LFG queue, where someone would be added to the party but not show up at all?
23:26.29CIA-1103ag * r30553 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_GroupClass.lua ag_UnitClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Yet another problem with settings not getting applied fixed
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23:28.49ag`_renchap: I can't find any problems with the click casting
23:29.12CIA-1103nymbia * r30554 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
23:29.12CIA-11Doodle:
23:29.12CIA-11- Fix an error when changing colors with no sync mode set.
23:29.30NeoTronxlvii: is that.. serious?
23:29.50Kaeltennymbia: did you decide to give uiQuery a try with Doodle?
23:30.51renchapag`_: combat text dont works
23:30.56nymbiaKaelten: nope :(  didnt turn out to be very applicable
23:30.58renchapwith party frame
23:31.01renchapmaybe the same bug
23:31.14Kaeltennymbia: could it be though?
23:31.23ag`_renchap: seems to work for me
23:31.30ag`_renchap: latest revision
23:31.34Kaeltennymbia: i'm fairly open about design for it.  in fact I'm thinking about making it easily extendable
23:31.38renchapfound something
23:32.01renchapbug only with party frames
23:32.09renchapnot raid frames
23:32.20ag`_and what's the problem?
23:32.33nymbiaKaelten: i dont think its within uiQuery's scope, as most of the frame-wrangling is positioning lines and stuff like that
23:32.39snurre-today has been a constructive day.. told the entire office to suck my ascii art'd cock :p
23:32.46renchapno combat text
23:32.50NeoTronxlvii: having read a bit further there's no way that is even remotely serious. >:-)
23:32.58renchapno shift-clic with click2cast
23:33.05Kaeltennymbia hrm
23:33.10ag`_renchap: you need to be near people to get their combat tedt
23:33.13ag`_text
23:33.15renchapi know
23:33.15Kaeltenits still was fun to make
23:33.16Kaelten:)
23:33.23CIA-1103nymbia * r30555 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
23:33.23CIA-11Doodle:
23:33.23CIA-11- Another one. Solo mode's no fun anyway.
23:34.25renchapi will try the last rev after next boss
23:34.47ag`_renchap: shift click works fine here
23:35.34renchapand combat texts ?
23:35.56ag`_haven't tested it for party but it works fine for me for player, pet, target etc
23:36.10renchapit works with some people, and dont works with others
23:36.12ag`_I'd bet it should work with party too
23:36.12renchapweird
23:37.21renchapthe bug is only with party here
23:37.43renchapi can shift-clic my target to buff
23:37.53renchapbut not the same player in the party frame
23:38.15ag`_what about click?
23:38.22renchapworks
23:39.04renchapand aguf menu too
23:39.24ag`_do a /rl
23:39.41ag`_maybe the guy joined while you were in combat
23:40.00ag`_and if there's a bug related to people joining while you're in combat that could be it
23:41.59renchapworks after en /rl oO
23:42.03renchap*a
23:43.58renchapbut i joined the party outside the instance
23:44.00CIA-1103nymbia * r30556 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
23:44.00CIA-11Doodle:
23:44.00CIA-11- Remove debug print.
23:44.32renchappretty sure i wasn't in combat
23:44.38ag`_renchap: could be a combat problem
23:44.43renchapok
23:44.49renchaplets try the boss
23:45.03renchapand see if it works after
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23:47.47JoshBorkeso, what'd i miss?
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23:48.39ag`_JoshBorke: dunno. Me bug hunting
23:48.51JoshBorkebugs are yummy
23:49.06Kaeltenwb josh
23:49.11JoshBorkedanke.
23:49.23ag`_oh yes. Esp. when you need 2+ people to confirm+fix them and a million times /rl
23:49.34renchapag`_: works fine in combat
23:49.38renchapi dont understand :(
23:50.02ag`_renchap: actually, it not that
23:50.30ag`_renchap: I could suspect the bug happening if you invited two people to your party while you yourself is in combat
23:50.55ag`_and if you haven't been in a party before the session
23:51.11JoshBorkei'll ask in here
23:51.23JoshBorkesay i have 8 bits that I want to set to 0 or 1.  setting to 0 is easy, just provide a bitmask.  how can I set to 1?  OR them together right?  now, how do I do both setting and unsetting different bits?
23:51.50ag`_Too low-level for me Josh :(
23:52.10JoshBorkeback to the other room...
23:55.22CIA-1103funkydude * r30557 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/ (BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua BigWigs_GruulAssist.toc): BigWigs_GruulAssist: formatting cleanup
23:56.11shieldbFunkeh`, got a screenshot of gruul assist anywhere?
23:56.22Funkeh`nop
23:56.27JoshBorkei bet it scans the overhead statusbars :P
23:56.30Funkeh`exactly like cthun assist basically
23:56.36Funkeh`no Josh
23:56.38shieldbI'm curious if that'll be better then showing friendly nameplates since those stop rendering at 20 yards
23:57.01Funkeh`i would jsut say try it and do what suits you ebst
23:57.04Funkeh`best*
23:57.13shieldbyeah I'll definately have to do that
23:57.24shieldbI dislike the clutter of having nameplates all over the place
23:57.25Funkeh`it helps because it means you don;t need to check 360degrees, but it doesn't for others
23:57.39shieldbbut it's nice to spin around and see that so and so is within 20 yards
23:57.41Funkeh`don't*
23:57.48Cryectwhy would you spin around?
23:57.48Funkeh`=)
23:57.54Cryectyour camera should be zoomed out far enough
23:57.55Funkeh`to the music?
23:58.17Funkeh`not everyone has that
23:58.31CIA-1103nymbia * r30558 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:
23:58.31CIA-11Doodle:
23:58.31CIA-11- Bugfix
23:58.35shieldbthe strat we're using for gruul I end up near the wall more often then not before a ground slam, so my camera is sotra trapped
23:58.42CryectThe default max camera distance though is kinda short
23:58.58Cryectwell you don't have to look behind you if you are at a wall :-p
23:59.09shieldbobviously ;)
23:59.25shieldbbut if there's a wall behind me and a stick or something trapping the camera in in front of me

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