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00:03.07Mikmadoes Noteshare require others to have it too?
00:03.54Amadeoargh, what's the deal with Linux? basic stuff should work by now
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00:10.47CIA-1703karlthepagan * r26223 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua:
00:10.47CIA-17Cartographer:
00:10.47CIA-17<PROTECTED>
00:11.03KarlThePaganalright... now it works as advertized :D
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00:25.13NeoTronKarlThePagan: is "notes" your addon?
00:25.24NeoTronoh wait it's just a builtin module, never mind :P
00:25.46KarlThePaganNeoTron, yea I just added a little smidge of code to increase the sexyness of the waypoints
00:25.51KarlThePagan;D
00:26.01NeoTronI need to hack togeter mapnotes importing
00:26.07NeoTronso I can scrap that addon entirely
00:26.08KarlThePagansexy
00:26.21NeoTrondoes waypoint handle temporary locations?
00:26.27NeoTroni.e /waypoint xx,yy
00:26.42NeoTronif not, that'd be awesome to have
00:27.20KarlThePaganit does that, but at the moment it creates a permanent note
00:27.41NeoTronI'd love for it not to create a note
00:27.58NeoTronuse case is: Look in thottbot/allakhazam to get the position. use /waypoint to go there
00:28.08NeoTronand once I find the location, I create a note that's more precise
00:28.19NeoTronand don't want the other one anymore
00:28.19ckknightmaybe it should remove the note upon arrival
00:28.25ckknightor upon creating a new /waypoint
00:29.08NeoTronor have an option to both disable the waypoint and remove the note when you right click the arrow
00:29.21KarlThePaganckknight, would you support that being the new behavior for /tloc?
00:29.21NeoTronI don't mind if I have to do that, just don't want to open the map, find the note and remove it
00:29.43ckknightyea, probably.
00:29.47NeoTronKarlThePagan: that would also be awesome. tloc for temporary, /note or /waypoint for permanent
00:30.02ckknightno
00:30.10ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:30.12KarlThePaganNeoTron, I'll probably make /waypoint x,y temporary
00:30.14ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:30.16KarlThePaganyea they should be the same
00:30.18KarlThePagank /wp
00:30.19NeoTronok
00:30.24NeoTronmakes more sense
00:30.29KarlThePaganso /tloc, /waypoint, /way, /wp
00:30.29ckknightKarlThePagan: all three
00:30.32ckknightyea
00:30.33ckknightthat's good
00:30.41ckknightand /note and /addnote for permanent
00:30.51KarlThePaganand then /way Note Name
00:30.55KarlThePaganto get the waypoint to it
00:31.05ckknightno
00:31.09ckknightdo like /note is
00:31.13ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:31.20NeoTronI'm was so happy when I discovered cartographer. now I'm almost free of other addons that does the same
00:31.20KarlThePaganckknight, it does both at the moment
00:31.42KarlThePagan<PROTECTED>
00:31.44NeoTronckknight: does note allow you to just do /note name?
00:31.48kergothmeh, still 183 addons in my addon set, and likely to add a couple more shortly
00:31.53ckknightno, NeoTron
00:31.59ckknightit needs a position
00:32.15vid`hehe kergoth
00:32.18vid`i got like 165 addons
00:32.21vid`most of em ace too
00:32.25NeoTronoften I just want to waypoint where I am, not a position (since if I att a note to 44,34 for eaxmple, that's a pretty big area and it can be off by quite a bit)
00:32.27vid`thats including the SAL's though
00:32.33kergothSAL?
00:32.40kergothoh, standalones?
00:32.49kergothwhen i was using standalone libs i was over 200 :|
00:32.59TularAnyone know of a addon that adds heath and mana amounts to blizzards party and target frames?
00:33.02NeoTronif position was 44,8, 34.9 it's pretty far off
00:33.20KarlThePaganNeoTron, I might run with that suggestion but it would be a new command
00:33.23ThraeTular: www.wowace.com/files has an addon which does ONLY that.
00:33.43NeoTronthat's fine
00:33.56KarlThePaganit will probably open the new note dialog for you to name it and such
00:33.59NightHawkTheSanecan't there just be a "here" meta-position for the note-command?
00:34.03NeoTronthat'd be perfect
00:34.20KarlThePaganNightHawkTheSane, mreh simple command parsers have fewer bugs
00:34.23NeoTronthat's another option but might be more confusing to have magic parameters
00:34.33KarlThePaganyea that too
00:35.10NeoTronmapnotes have -qtloc and -tloc
00:35.12KarlThePaganoh here's an idea
00:35.19chosiis sal scotto here?
00:35.20KarlThePaganwhat's qtloc NeoTron ?
00:35.21NeoTronthey are options to the /mn command but essentially different commands
00:35.23chosi:>
00:35.29NeoTronquick tloc I think. i.e "here"
00:35.38KarlThePaganI'll add that then ;)
00:36.07chosigot some problems with the cartographer stats plugin
00:36.07NeoTroni.e "/mn -tloc x,y icon title " and "/mn -qtloc icon title" in map notes
00:36.27NeoTronKarlThePagan: given "tloc" = temporary iot might be better with /quicknote or /qnote or so
00:36.39KarlThePagansure
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00:36.52NeoTronsince the typical use case for "where I am" would be permanent notes
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00:38.25KarlThePaganwell the "hide on arrival" option is a little more complex than my first Carto Notes hack
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00:38.54KarlThePaganyou might be waiting a while on it sorry to say, but I am a lazy programmer
00:39.14KarlThePaganping me about it in a few hours and that might motivate me NeoTron ;)
00:39.24Nickenyfikenhaha
00:39.25TularThrae: whats it called?
00:39.59NeoTronKarlThePagan: heh
00:42.51TularAnyone know of a addon that adds heath and mana amounts to blizzards party and target frames?
00:43.11NeoTronTular: I just use X Perl unit frames
00:43.18NeoTronor there's ag_UF in Ace
00:43.50NickenyfikenKarlThePagan: can you make /way do a new /way on arrival. For example if i do /way copper it will lead me to the nearest copper vein and on arrival it will direct me to the next one and so on :-P
00:44.19NeoTronNickenyfiken: problem is if you do something like that, you need sort of a predetermined path and knowledge of where you've previously been
00:44.27NeoTronor it might send you back and forth between two spots
00:44.32NeoTronit's not an easy problem
00:44.51Nickenyfikenyup your right
00:45.04NightHawkTheSanethat's almost worthy of a college thesis. ><
00:45.16Nickenyfikenbut something like a memory on the last few waypoints would be nice
00:45.25NeoTronit is worthy of a rather serious development project for sure
00:45.41NeoTronyou could use weighted graphs to calculate the "cheapest" route,
00:45.51NeoTronwhere the cost for each step is the distance
00:46.04NeoTronand you'd have to account for "detection range" to avoid going TOO all spots
00:46.06Nickenyfikenwell there should be some sort of AI you can use that is pretty streight forward to implement
00:46.08NeoTrontoo close
00:46.12NeoTronit's not hard really
00:46.19KarlThePaganNightHawkTheSane, more like intermediate algorithms
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00:46.21Nickenyfikenthat can make a path through a map going from note to note
00:46.34NeoTronit's similar to how AI in an RTS would calculate the shortest path
00:46.51Nickenyfikenbiggest problem may be if notes are in caves and on hills and stuff like that
00:46.54NeoTrononly it can't take into account mountains and such
00:46.55KarlThePaganTouristLib has a weighted graph Dijkstra's algorithm in it
00:46.58NeoTronright
00:47.00Nickenyfikenso the real distance is much greater
00:47.20KarlThePaganyou could probably adapt that if you really wanted to make such a plugin
00:47.20NeoTronand that can't be solved without hacking the geometry out of the client with a third party illegal app
00:47.40NeoTronyou would have to have it notice how you walked
00:47.46NeoTronor enter intermediate points
00:48.03NeoTronas kergoth said earlier, it could be somewhat similar to autotravel
00:48.14KarlThePaganNeoTron, actually if you made mapnotes for impassible mountains you could anti-bias nodes which got close to those points
00:48.20NeoTron1) calculate shortest path, 2) traverse the path and note where you can't walk
00:48.26KarlThePaganit would take a lot of work
00:48.50NeoTronso again it's somewhat of a complicated problem to solve when all you have are 2d coordinates in a 3d world
00:49.24KarlThePaganthe human solution to that problem is probably easier ;)
00:50.13KarlThePaganI think I might go as far as to require waypoints you search for to be in your forward arc... but that's as far as i would even consider going with this feature
00:50.28KarlThePaganit's just so much effort for so little return compared to the human effort to solve the problem
00:50.29NightHawkTheSaneKarlThePagan: yeah, i was being hyperbolic mostly. :P
00:50.34KarlThePaganhehehe yea
00:50.42NeoTronyeah
00:50.51NeoTronit's not too hard to find the "sort of" best path
00:50.53ThraeI think there is a function now to check if you're indoors or not. That might be a useful addition.
00:51.10KarlThePaganNightHawkTheSane, remember this discussion if you're ever in a design meeting
00:51.27KarlThePaganthink "KISS" and "Hand Warming Device vs Gloves"
00:51.28KarlThePagan;)
00:51.33NightHawkTheSanehaha
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00:51.59NightHawkTheSanesadly, I wish I could say this is the first time i've seen this kind of conversation :P
00:52.07KarlThePaganlolol
00:52.08KarlThePaganme2
00:52.21KarlThePaganthe failures of big-design up-front
00:54.24ThraeI'm still delaying projects because of my quest for the best module design.
00:58.34ThraeThe best I have so far is allowing modules to be separated into their own LoD addon by including a LoD stub with the addon's name and TOC file which points to files in the main addon's folder. That way I can increase core modularization (IE, modules I add myself) without increasing the number of total addons. The user need only copy the LoD stub folder to change the module from integrated to LoD.
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01:23.42vhaarrThrae: That's how we do it with BigWigs and oRA2.
01:24.45Thraevhaarr: Do you have to copy all the module's files or just the TOC?
01:33.51TainI miss seeing lilo's notices.
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01:43.49vhaarrThrae: What do you mean? Take a look at the source directories.
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01:48.08CIA-1703ricowan * r26224 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc RicoMiniMap.xml):
01:48.08CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
01:48.08CIA-17- Added a reset command
01:48.08CIA-17- All minimap associated frames should now be draggable
01:50.03hydhLoD sucks
01:56.54CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r26225 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Added check for to fix error when not running Cartographer
02:01.33TainOh no, there goes Tokyo, there goes Godzilla.
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02:03.02Tekkubshould I just be lazy and pay $13 to file my state taxes online?
02:03.09Tekkubfedral is free :P
02:03.12TainYes.  If that is the laziest you can get.
02:03.16Tekkubbut I'm feeling lazy
02:03.42TainSometimes it takes a little more work to be even lazier.
02:07.54CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r26226 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/Trainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Saving more information about craftable items.
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02:10.39RUBiKany druids out there? what do you use that shows you a mana bar in a feral form? just a HUD type addon?
02:10.57RUBiKjust looking for something simple-ish that does just that..
02:12.54Mikmadamn where's ckknight
02:13.12ThorgardNargiddley, ping
02:13.28NargiddleyThorgard, yeah ?
02:14.09ThorgardNargiddley, is the 'free bank slots' count broken in Baggins?
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02:14.26Nargiddleyis it ?
02:14.37ThorgardIt's showing me an empty slot with the number 19, I'm interpreting that as 'I have 19 free slots'.
02:15.01ThorgardI move one item from my bag into my bank and now I have 0 free slots.
02:15.03Nargiddleyin a bank bag ?
02:15.05ThorgardYeah
02:15.16ThorgardUsing Bank All In One layout.
02:16.23Nargiddleyok yeah, something isnt right there
02:16.44ThorgardAlso, is there an option to make Baggins supress the default bank/bag windows that pops up?
02:17.03Nargiddleyyeah, its there somewhere
02:17.33NargiddleyHide Default Bank
02:17.52Nargiddleyoff by default for now since you cant buy bank bags without it yet
02:18.22ThorgardAh, thanks.
02:19.01ThorgardIs there a way to get Baggins to take over the default bag, opening at vendors and the such?
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02:19.19Nargiddleyit should open at vendors
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02:21.09Nargiddleyit seems thats its not identifying the bank empty slots for compressing correctly
02:21.25Nargiddleyif you turn compression off it'll show the correct number of slots, i'll look into it
02:22.11ThorgardA'right, cool.
02:23.17ThorgardLovin' the mod, btw. ;P
02:32.14CIA-1703nargiddley * r26228 10Baggins/libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua: Baggins: Identifies empty bank bag slots correctly as bank slots
02:32.17NargiddleyThorgard, that should do it
02:32.24ThorgardSuh-weet.
02:34.30kergothvhaarr, surfacecontrol seems to have an empty validate table
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02:35.42art3miswhts that movie thats coming out that has black betty in the trailer?
02:35.45art3misaces loaded?
02:37.00CIA-1703derkyle * r26229 10ItemSync/xml/Dialog.lua:
02:37.01CIA-17ItemSync:
02:37.01CIA-17- Added: Adding favorites will now refresh your favorites window with the new additions.
02:38.55Thorgardart3mis, the one about all the hitmen?
02:39.07CIA-1703neuron * r26230 10nQuestLog/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
02:39.07CIA-17nQuestLog : Initial import
02:39.07CIA-17- Quest tracking modification.
02:39.13Thorgardart3mis, Smokin' Aces.
02:40.08TainI do want to see that, I think it looks entertaining.
02:40.33TainAnd I liked Spiderbait's cover of Black Betty a couple years ago.
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02:41.04ThorgardTain, aye.
02:43.39CIA-1703neuron * r26231 10nQuestLog/: nQuestLog : Adding externals
02:45.08Mikmaooh, sexy update for baggins!
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02:45.27Nargiddleythat was just a bug fix :D
02:45.32Nargiddleysexy ones on its way
02:45.59_neuron_hm, maybe I should try baggins again
02:46.18_neuron_I also have a habbit of accidentally pulling it off my screen :P
02:46.23MikmaNargiddley: that bug fix was sexy
02:46.32_neuron_Mikma is easy to please :P
02:46.35RUBiKoooh.. nquestlog.. any screenies out there anywhere?
02:46.36MikmaNargiddley: that's been annoying me for a long time
02:46.41RUBiKnew addon, right neuron?
02:46.44_neuron_RUBiK, correct
02:46.58RUBiKwill try it.. don't like questfu
02:47.05_neuron_http://hollowtube.mine.nu/interface/nQuestLog/info.html screenshot there, but it's a bit old.
02:47.18_neuron_yeah, it's targetting the usergroup that currently uses monkeyquest/EQL3, not the ones using questfu ;)
02:48.26RUBiKdoes it happen to mod blizzard's quest frame to split into two frames (left side = long list, right side = quest desc)?
02:48.34_neuron_btw the zips are generated once every 20 minutes synced with an hour right?, so I'm stuck here until 4am if I wanna see if the zip thing works.
02:48.53Mikma_neuron_: so, couple of questions. Fixes height and width? mouseover tooltip info? ability to paste objectives to chat?
02:48.54_neuron_RUBiK, no, it was on the todo list for a long time but the testers I got now say they never end up opening the blizzard one anymore anyway :P
02:49.10RUBiKhaha.. k.. works for me then
02:49.15_neuron_Mikma, fixed width, not height, mouseover tooltip info yes, and you can't paste objectives, but good idea :P
02:49.41_neuron_what format would you want that in?  <questname> current/total or for each objective?
02:49.50Mikma_neuron_: have a look at the way it's done in MonkeyQuest, QuestsFu needs it too... REMEMBER TO ADD THE DAMN SPACE after questname lol
02:50.04_neuron_yeah I do add a space after questname when linking quests
02:50.15_neuron_didn't know you could link objectives in monkeyquest
02:50.30Mikma_neuron_: well monkeyquest and questfu does it like this: [12] Hitting some sack {needed objective 0/12}
02:50.47Mikma_neuron_: shift+rightclick if i remember correctly on the quest
02:50.50_neuron_hm yeah, that's a good idea
02:50.59Mikma_neuron_: and the fixed height, i want that one :)
02:51.05_neuron_I'll probably code that tomorrow, coding anything at 3:50am is a bad idea
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02:51.24_neuron_not really sure how to pull that one off... maybe I could make the whole window scrollable the way topscorefu is, that's kinda neat.
02:51.50Thorgard_neuron_, oh bulltaco. ;P The best coding is done at 4:30 in the morning!
02:51.53_neuron_Thorgard, well, it's interesting to read the next day atleast
02:52.32_neuron_heh, I remember having commit wars with other people in the middle of the night, then the next day make fun of them about how horrible their code was.
02:52.34_neuron_then realizing it was mine
02:52.46RUBiKhaha
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02:53.20Mikma_neuron_: oh and one thing too..
02:54.14Mikma_neuron_: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3927 <- this is rather sexy feature
02:54.25Mikma_neuron_: i even got Kemayo to code it in questsfu
02:54.26_neuron_it's on the todo list ;)
02:54.48_neuron_I wanna sync it with cartographer, and make it a module, so I gotta look into cart's api first
02:55.42_neuron_hm, wonder if he put anything for it in quixote
02:56.30Mikmaso, i have a feature-request for cartographer... FIX THE DAMN IRONFORGE BUG! :D
02:56.42Mikmai just hate it that i can't select ironforge from worldmap
02:57.25KemayoRUBiK: What don't you like about QuestsFu, out of curiosity?
02:57.56RUBiKhonestly, just very little quirks.. nothing big.. i still DO like it but i'm new to it
02:58.10_neuron_imo Kemayo, two different usergroups, ones that track every quest they have like a longass todo list (current monkeyquest users), and some that only wants their active quests tracked
02:58.20RUBiKon thing that would be nice is, when i click a quest, if the description tooltip that pops up would be movable and NOT snap to screen regions
02:58.41KemayoHey, QuestsFu does both.  :-P
02:58.44RUBiKor maybe i don't know how to turn off the tooltip "snapping on"
02:58.45_neuron_hehe
02:59.07KemayoRUBiK: That's a weird Tablet bug, which I haven't been able to work out yet.  It's not supposed to be behaving like that.
02:59.23_neuron_gah /me wants to make an ingame thottbot, shared in guild channel.
02:59.39_neuron_is it possible in the current wow api to dump stuff to disk and clear it from memory? (like a database for example)
02:59.44Mikmaingame DB for allakhazam prizes
02:59.47Mikmathat would rock
03:00.01KemayoNot as far as I know.
03:00.06_neuron_if it's possible to save stuff to disk and reload it on demand I dont see it as a complicated thing to do
03:00.14_neuron_but without that feature it'd be slightly memory intensive :P
03:00.58SlackerJerthat questgiver coords is in questsfu right now?
03:01.03_neuron_it is SlackerJer
03:01.16RUBiKyeah it is.. saw it a few hours ago.. it's cool
03:01.35_neuron_Kemayo, maybe we should come up with a module api and share some modules :P
03:02.01SlackerJerAh, I see it now. Not on some of my earlier quests =D sweet
03:02.20KemayoW00t!
03:02.36RUBiKi assume it wouldn't add coords to existing quests.. since it doesn't know where you picked up from.. (:
03:02.59CIA-1703kemayo * r26232 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Remove 'cantattach' from detail tracker registration, fixing the goddamn jumping around bug.
03:03.05_neuron_lol
03:03.13RUBiKwhoa!!
03:03.23RUBiKyou just messing with me or did you really fix that? lol
03:03.31KemayoI don't know why that was happening; it shouldn't have been happening; I'm just glad it's gone.
03:03.38RUBiK<3
03:03.51ThraeDammit I just got a lot of new coding ideas.
03:04.10ThraeSo much for getting to Level 60 in a week...when I'm Level 57 right now.
03:04.28RUBiKheh.. what's the rush?
03:04.58MikmaThrae: i have an idea what you can code actually that i have wanted for long time
03:05.01KemayoThrae: 57-60 was about two days, as I recall.  It was all about running Scholo over and over.  Should be even faster with Outland now.  :D
03:05.07MikmaThrae: PvP icons for TinyTip :)
03:05.18_neuron_anyone know what the lowest level quests are in hellfire?
03:05.26Mikma"if unit is flagged show PvP icon to prevent attacking"
03:05.32_neuron_saw a guy get summoned there earlier today, so I guess they are under 58
03:05.46Kemayo_neuron_: You can first go there at 58, I know.  I don't remember seeing any quests with levels below 60, though.
03:06.03_neuron_yeah but you can get summoned there, saw a l55 belf paladin get boosted earlier
03:06.50KemayoCool, I didn't think they'd let that work.
03:06.56_neuron_me neither
03:07.04jkwI don't know who I discussed the issue with. But the issue was that I got tiny freeze lags everytime I crafted a item or changed something in my inventory. I have now found out which AddOn it was that caused this. And it was FuBar_FactionItemsFu,
03:07.24jkwTook me 3 days ;<
03:07.46_neuron_Kemayo, lowest level quest according to thottbot is 58, so I guess he was just running around grinding :P
03:10.16_neuron_nite guys, 4am, I gotta walk the dog :P
03:10.20RUBiKnite
03:11.42kebinusanIs there a mod that will use a flying mount if you are in outland and otherwise use a normal mount
03:12.28CIA-1703next96 * r26233 10Cartographer/Modules/Coordinates.lua:
03:12.28CIA-17Cartographer :
03:12.28CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:13.25RUBiKsome instances' boss icons are still broken (i.e. lined up straight) for me in cartographer.. anyone else?
03:15.35[Wobin]aha
03:15.42[Wobin]Did that cart update break something?
03:21.00KemayoIt
03:21.32Kemayo's probably Prat that's royally annoying me by activating all channels to my "general" tab on login...
03:21.52RUBiKoh.. is THAT what's doing that?!
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03:22.28RUBiKevery time i log on, i see the lootlinkdata channel spam..
03:23.03KemayoI assume that's what's doing it.  Unless ColaMachine introduced the problem.
03:24.16KemayoHmm, disabling ColaMachine did seem to fix it.
03:24.16KemayoWho'd have thought that for once blaming Prat wouldn't be the right course?  No-one will ever believe me...
03:24.20RUBiKhmm.. is that the channel you were seeing?
03:24.28RUBiKthe colamachine one, i mean?
03:24.55kergoththe lootlink channel?
03:24.57kergothyea, thats colamachine
03:25.01kergothor..?
03:25.03kergothoh, i see
03:25.07kergothcolamachine is on crack anyway
03:25.14KemayoAll of them were being re-added to my main tab, including the lootlink one.
03:25.30KemayoForcing me to suffer through General until I noticed and turned it off.
03:29.49SlackerJerThere's a thread on WoW forums
03:29.56SlackerJerIt seems it might be a Blizzard bug
03:30.22ckknightThrae: hrm, I might steal your module model for Cartographer.
03:30.55jkwRUBiK: I have the same problem with Cartographer.
03:31.29Feldiawhere do transcriptor logs get saved?
03:33.31KarlThePagansaved variables probably
03:34.15ThraeMikma: TinyTip had those, then 2.0 broke them
03:35.00MikmaThrae: that nutsack :(
03:36.00ThorgardKemayo, wait, wait, which mod was turning on General in your main tab? :o
03:36.16Chinkufasten seat belts, commit spam incoming... ;-)
03:36.35KemayoThorgard: Actually, I don't know.  It turns out it wasn't fixed.
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03:37.24ThorgardKemayo, damnit. ;P Don't get my hopes up like that.
03:37.40CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26234 10Cartographer/Modules/ (GuildPositions.lua LookNFeel.lua Notes.lua Professions.lua):
03:37.40CIA-17Cartographer:
03:37.40CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
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03:38.04CIA-17Cartographer_Fishing:
03:38.05CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:38.20CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26236 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua:
03:38.20CIA-17Cartographer_Herbalism:
03:38.20CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:38.27Amadeobleh, every server I log on, I have like a 200-300ms ping now
03:38.29CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26237 10Cartographer_Hotspot/Cartographer_Hotspot.lua:
03:38.29CIA-17Cartographer_Hotspot:
03:38.29CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:38.36SlackerJerre: chat channels re-checking themselves  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=71027742
03:38.39Thraeckknight: Another cool thing I thought instead of actually implementing it -- You could hook the error frame and try and see if the core addon could pinpoint errors caused by files included in a registered module, then have the core disable that module from doing anything. This would be heavenly for people not using something like BugGrabber, and also for temporarily sealing errors causing leaks. All of this functionality will hopefull
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03:38.54CIA-17Cartographer_Mining:
03:38.54CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:39.10CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26239 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua:
03:39.10CIA-17Cartographer_Noteshare:
03:39.10CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:39.30CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26240 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:
03:39.30CIA-17Cartographer_Quests:
03:39.30CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:39.50AmadeoI'd love if they made it easier to pick a server that isn't full of lag for you
03:39.57CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26241 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua:
03:39.57CIA-17Cartographer_Stats:
03:39.57CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:40.12CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26242 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua:
03:40.12CIA-17Cartographer_Trainers:
03:40.12CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:40.32CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26243 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua:
03:40.32CIA-17Cartographer_Treasure:
03:40.32CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:40.49CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26244 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua:
03:40.49CIA-17Cartographer_Vendors:
03:40.49CIA-17- updated deDE localization incl. harmonization between modules
03:41.02Chinkudone...
03:42.05Amadeohahaha
03:42.35RUBiKholy crap, sharapova getting her ass kicked
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03:44.00Chinkugood night everyone :-)
03:44.52ckknightThrae: ah, I'm not sure if that's necessary.
03:46.09Mikmackknight: I whined about ironforge some time ago, you weren't here so I whine again: is it possible to fix the "select Ironforge from worldmap" bug that has been in WoW since release
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03:46.38ckknightI'd really rather not
03:47.00Thraeckknight: Some users take the time to help test, some just want a functioning addon.
03:47.02Mikmawell it's a map bug so i think it could be in cart
03:47.28ckknightThrae: you realize I don't care about most of my users.
03:47.50Thraeckknight: Heh.
03:48.45kebinusanDoes anyone know of a mount mod that will use the appropriate mount in azeroth/outland
03:48.48ThraeI'm one of those rare, altruistic Libertarians myself ;)
03:49.21Thraekebinusan: Maybe MountMe can do it
03:50.00Thraekebinusan: You could also try a macro. I don't think a macro will fail when a /use fails.
03:50.56Thrae<PROTECTED>
03:51.38Feldiamountme does not do it
03:51.41Feldiait just changes gear
03:52.02ThraeMountMe will use the Scarab mount if you're in Sithilus and you have it
03:52.13Feldiawell it does'nt use a flying mount
03:52.13ThraeBut Tekkub is a bit behind in his updates ;)
03:52.24Feldiaunless there's something I need to macro thta I'm unaware of
03:52.37ThraeWell I suggested the macro that might work....
03:52.42Tekkubit'll do flying mounts when I have one, thanks
03:52.48ThraeHehe.
03:52.53Tekkuband I'm lv... 61.2 right now
03:53.04CIA-1703kemayo * r26245 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Try to auto-highlight proper nouns and numbers in quest objective and description text.
03:53.06KemayoAmadeo: There you go.
03:53.15ThraeI'll probably never get a flying mount, as I play a Druid.
03:53.38Tekkubyea flight form will go in when my hubby gets it
03:53.43AmadeoKemayo: haha, sweet!
03:54.00Amadeoit was that simple?
03:54.09ThraeOh, I just remembered
03:54.44Thrae<PROTECTED>
03:54.44KemayoThree patterns.  One of which was a duplicate to stop it alternating words (I need to work out a way to avoid that, if I can get my brain in the right mode).
03:55.08AmadeoQuestsFu is rockin' :)
03:55.18ThraeI'm 99% sure /use will continue on error UNLESS the item is on cooldown.
03:55.23Tekkub<PROTECTED>
03:55.31Tekkubif you don't want the error
03:55.42ThraeTekkub: Yeah that's what I changed it to after I read up on it, but I'm just giving an example
03:55.46Tekkuber, nocombat
03:55.46KemayoAmadeo: It doesn't quite handle things like "Temple of Telhamat" properly, though.  It colors "Temple" and "Telhemat", but leaves out the "of"...
03:55.55Thraekebinusan: So there's your macro solution
03:55.58Tekkubthey do need to give flyzone tho
03:56.08Thrae"flyzone"?
03:56.08Tekkubso we can use /use [noflyzone]
03:56.19AmadeoKemayo: Close! :)
03:56.22Tekkub<PROTECTED>
03:56.30Tekkub<PROTECTED>
03:56.31RUBiKKemayo: are you just matching for capitalized words?
03:56.54ThraeTekkub: You can only fly while mounted, and you can't do anything while mounted...I'd rather have [noerror]
03:57.10Thraeor [spam] :D
03:57.21Tekkub*shrug*
03:57.40Tekkubyou didn't get the humor in the valid request
03:57.46KemayoRUBiK: Not quite. Capitalized words (including hyphens and '), preceded by a space and either a comma or an alphanumeric character.
03:58.27KemayoIt's the preceded-by bit which means I have to run the replace twice.
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03:58.48ThraeMy headache reduces my ability to understand your so-called "words"
03:59.14ThraeI really need to see my eye doctor once my health insurance starts in a week.
03:59.54sylvanaarmangle spam is good
03:59.58_neuron_Kemayo, btw, any reason GetPartyQuestStatus would sometimes return 0 when quest items have been received by the party member?
04:00.25Mikma_neuron_: oh i got a bug for you :)
04:00.26RUBiKwhoa.. no sleep, neuron?
04:00.33_neuron_I dont sleep :P
04:00.35_neuron_just had to walk the dog :P
04:00.41RUBiKat 4am?
04:00.45_neuron_Mikma, might not get fixed tonight :P
04:00.48_neuron_yeah :P
04:00.50_neuron_5am now ;)
04:01.01Kemayo_neuron_: If the AceComm syncing hasn't happened yet.  AceComm throttles things in some manner which I'm not quite certain of.
04:01.03RUBiKcool.. (:
04:01.18Mikma_neuron_: so, i have the something/something at Fubar. then i rightclick it and mouseover Watched Quests... every quest that i have completed has (failed) after it :)
04:01.18sylvanaarrofl
04:01.25_neuron_Kemayo, hm, yeah, maybe, I've had quests where I didn't see it updating at all, which confuses me a bit.
04:01.33Thraesylvanaar: Yeah, I also use "/castrandom Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Rake, Rake, Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Feroicious Bite"  when I'm doing boring grinding. Makes it easier to watch TV.
04:01.37_neuron_Kemayo, cuz it seems to work for 99% of things, but on 1-2 quests I've seen it always return 0
04:01.56RUBiKlol.. i gotta steal that macro
04:02.04Kemayo_neuron_: Yeah, I'm unsure what causes that.  I suspect it's a message getting lost in the aether somewhere, but I need to look into it more.
04:02.12sylvanaari need a good macro like that but i dont know the sytax and i cant bring myself to learn it
04:02.17_neuron_Mikma, hm, know what causes that, I'll fix it tomorrow.
04:02.30Thraesylvanaar: That syntax is correct, except I misspelled "Ferocious Bite"
04:02.38Mikma_neuron_: neat.
04:02.44ThraeRUBiK: It's in the Druid Macros post on the Druid Forums
04:02.48_neuron_Kemayo, yeah, it's gotta be the comunication bit, it refreshed fine for him (and for me), but we both saw 0 quest objectives for the other person.
04:02.54Thraesylvanaar: Look on the Druid Forums for the Macro post
04:03.08_neuron_Kemayo, also side question, any way to see if a quest is failed?
04:03.32_neuron_(I tried to fix it by doing "if not bdone and got==needed", but mikma's bugreport tells me that didn't work so well :P
04:03.43RUBiKnice
04:04.01_neuron_dammit, starting wow at 5am is not a good idea :P
04:04.03ThraeI made an addon called "SpamIt!" which surpresses "Not enough energy", "Ability not ready", and "Not enough rage" error messages when you call /script SpamIt_Start() and stops when you call /script SpamIt_Stop()
04:04.08Mikma_neuron_: well, i'm not sure why i always seem to find errors from addons. i may suck or so
04:04.15_neuron_hehe
04:04.25_neuron_Thrae, .... I think I love you
04:04.49Thrae_neuron_: wowinterface has it
04:05.01_neuron_thanks, I'll grab that tomorrow
04:05.14ThraeIt's also locale-free
04:05.21_neuron_I got some macros where I want /cast amplify curse /cast <curse>
04:05.24Kemayo_neuron_: Yup.  :GetQuest's return "complete" is actually poorly named.  It passes through GetQuestLogTitle's return of the same name, which can be '', '(complete)', or '(failed)'.
04:05.25_neuron_but the spam annoys the crap out of me :P
04:05.51ThraeBut I think it's missing one error message to surpress, I forget what the string is, like "That ability is cooling down" or some crap
04:06.01ThraeI need to do more spamming
04:06.11_neuron_great Kemayo, thanks
04:06.28_neuron_gimme 2 sec Thrae  :P
04:06.39ThraeUsually when an ability is cooling down it says "That ability is not ready", but sometimes it uses a different error message.
04:06.49_neuron_Thrae, you got "Spell is not ready yet." right?
04:07.13Thrae_neuron_: No, that might be it
04:07.23_neuron_that's the one I need :p
04:07.38Kemayo_neuron_: Wait, I misremembered!  I passes through 1 for completed, -1 for failed, or '' for neither.
04:07.51_neuron_kk ;)
04:08.14_neuron_that could explain some funky bugs actually :P
04:08.15KemayoI just wrote the thing, doesn't mean I remember how to use it.  >_>
04:08.18_neuron_haha
04:08.21_neuron_yeah I know the feeling :P
04:08.52_neuron_btw you wanna try to come up with some standards on what stuff should be highlighted etc? Some consistency there might be a good idea.
04:08.55Mikma_neuron_: oh i also got one idea for you :D Default sets for Watched quests you can switch
04:09.13KemayoI should write the API docs in the wiki someday.  I at least wrote informative comments in the code yesterday...
04:09.16_neuron_Mikma, hm... not too hard to implement in theory, but I dunno how I'd change the menu's to make that easy to use :P
04:09.25Mikma_neuron_: like, "only show completed quests" "only show quests in middle of complete" etc
04:09.28_neuron_Kemayo, fairly understandable api calls though :p
04:09.36_neuron_hm, yeah
04:09.48Kemayo_neuron_: Better documentation of return values would have helped here, though.  :D
04:09.53_neuron_yeah :P
04:09.59Mikma"show quests with objectives done more than 0"
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04:11.12_neuron_Kemayo, love quixote btw :P
04:11.41_neuron_I coded my own stuff internally in early nQuestLog versions, realized there was a ace2 library for it, looked at it for about 30 seconds and decided to recode my entire thing around it :P
04:11.53Kemayo_neuron_: Consistency might be a good idea, I guess... I pretty much stole how MonkeyQuestLog was highlighting things, so I'm consistent with that at least.
04:12.12KemayoYeah, base Blizzard quest handling is a bitch.
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04:12.51_neuron_I also highlight using GetZoneText (not just GetSubZoneText) but only if your in a different zone
04:13.04_neuron_for example Screecher spirit for tanaris gets highlighted if your in feralas.
04:13.26KemayoI'll take a look at how you do it.  I haven't done subzone highlighting yet, though.
04:13.34Thrae_neuron_: SVN: http://thae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SpamIt
04:13.39_neuron_thanks Thrae
04:13.45MikmaThrae: thae?
04:13.48Thrae_neuron_: Just added the changes.
04:14.00_neuron_"Could not open the requested SVN filesystem" Thrae
04:14.00ThraeMikma: Non-Ace addons go there.
04:14.13MikmaThrae: thae? :D ain't it supposed to be thrae?
04:14.24Thrae_neuron_: oops, SVN: http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SpamIt
04:14.31_neuron_thanks ;)
04:14.34ThraeHeh, good catch
04:14.59_neuron_dammit, /me needs to recode my custom python wowace ++ updater to update svn stuff from svn
04:15.15ThraeWhat's wrong with WAU?
04:15.16RUBiKnon-ace addons go there? why is tinytip there? is it different than wowace svn?
04:15.33_neuron_Thrae, A : it's for windows, B : it's for windows, and C : I cba porting it
04:15.42ThraeAh right.
04:15.44_neuron_:p
04:16.45_neuron_gah /me wants to make an imba questlog mod from the heavens with modular frontends
04:16.47ThraeRUBiK: I want to un-Ace some of my addons as I find the less Ace I have, the easier it is for me to maintain.
04:16.50_neuron_sharing 99.9% of the code
04:16.58RUBiKgotcha
04:17.04ThraeTinyTip barely uses Ace
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04:17.17_neuron_but I dont think I cba doing it on my own, and I dont think I can trick Kemayo into doing it either
04:17.24ThraeUsing Ace goes against the "Tiny" in TinyTip, as it takes out the control from the user
04:17.39Mikma_neuron_: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3341.msg78524#new :D
04:17.56_neuron_oh cool
04:18.03Kemayo_neuron_: http://kemayo.dyndns.org:8080/svn/wow/trunk/WAup/ <-- I think that would probably work for you.  (I haven't tried it outside of windows... but I'm careful about using os.path for everything.)
04:18.27ThraeAce isn't really that bloated, but I'm an optimization freak when it comes to TinyTip.
04:18.39KemayoOh, wait, I haven't cleaned up and committed the svn updating.  Ah well.
04:18.49_neuron_hehe
04:18.51KemayoPfft, that's too much work.
04:19.30Thrae_neuron_: You could have just used google svn to svn up your entire interface directory ;)
04:20.02MikmaI still have 2 dreams. 1. I'll recode my actionbar. 2. I make myself a better totem-addon
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04:20.02CIA-17Cartographer_Vendors
04:20.03CIA-17* Localization
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04:20.03Kemayo_neuron_: Regarding the modular thing... that's a lot of work.  I have been thinking of at least breaking off the tracker and detail pane from questsfu into modules, though.
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04:20.10_neuron_well, I'm a server admin, I dont like svn up'ing when there's a file mirror :P
04:20.24_neuron_Kemayo, I can help you do that if you want, I'd really like that detail pane :P
04:20.30ThraeAh, yeah you don't need that level of hack.
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04:21.26cowpiezhey im a noob
04:21.33Mikmahi noob
04:21.48cowpiezthanks for being so welcoming:)
04:21.49cowpiezi cant figure out how to get the wowace interface to import
04:21.50ThraeI still need to update my backup scripts for grabbing files off my Windows system...
04:22.04RUBiKis it easy/quick for you guys to hack the default blizzard questlog window to be 2-paned? (don't care for ANY other funcationality added to the blizz frames).. i.e. like http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/1156549570EQL3_Log.jpg
04:22.08_neuron_Kemayo, hm, I could also use the same modular system for my tracker, and they'd be interchangable
04:22.26_neuron_RUBiK, it was on my todo list until I realized how much of a pain it was :P
04:22.38RUBiKhaha.. fair enough
04:23.14sylvanaarKemayo is that you i have in my backbuffer saying prat causes the channel joins? i hope you arent serious
04:23.16RUBiKgotta look to see how UberQuest did it..
04:23.40_neuron_something causes channel joins... /me 's seen that too, but I dont use prat.
04:23.44Kemayosylvanaar: That was me leaping to conclusion, because Prat causes all bugs.
04:23.48Kemayo;-)
04:23.49_neuron_since 2.0.6 I've been ending up in the general channel on random occasions
04:23.51RUBiKlol
04:23.54sylvanaarok
04:23.56_neuron_and it's driving me nuts
04:24.21sylvanaaroh im gettting logged out
04:24.38RUBiKi wouldn't mind it much except it's the channels that are used by addons to share data so... spam++
04:24.45cowpiezhow do i install the ace2 interface? it wont allow me to log in when i try to import, it says my user name or password are incorrect
04:25.46_neuron_5:25 am, think I'm calling it a night guys :P, nite ;)
04:25.51KemayoNight!
04:26.05KemayoWe can discuss this modular thing another time...
04:26.11_neuron_Kemayo, leave me a msg if you end up making something modular, if you do the tracker I'll make my tracker modular too, and they'd be interchangable ;)
04:26.12_neuron_yeah ;)
04:26.31_neuron_I'd probably be slightly more productive and or intelligent 4-5 hours earlier than this :P
04:26.45cowpiez:'(
04:26.50KemayoReally it's the whole framework-building part that scares me off...
04:27.05sylvanaari have changed the logic prat uses to keep names so its only friends and guildies by default...i think im going to commit it seems stable
04:27.40RUBiKsorry cowpiez.. not sure what you're asking or i'd try to help
04:27.52RUBiKwhat do you mean by "can't install the ace2 interface"?
04:28.40RUBiKwhat's the reason for that change, sylv? just curious.. was it eating up too many resources keeping too many names?
04:28.58cowpiezwell when i try to import the addon for Ace2 through SVN, and i paste in the link provided including the /trunk/filename it says that my login and password are wrong.
04:29.25RUBiKoh, you are trying to import/check in something to svn?
04:29.29cowpiezeah
04:29.32cowpiezyeah*
04:30.00RUBiKhmm.. sorry, can't help with any of that.. you have an svn account, i take it?
04:30.31cowpiezwell i signed the book, but i didnt see a place to actually create an account
04:30.37cowpiezwhere do i go about doing that?
04:30.39CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26247 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua:
04:30.39CIA-17Prat: Changed the meaning of the playernames option to store names to mean
04:30.39CIA-17'names of friends and guildmates' this is takes the value of the old setting.
04:30.39CIA-17Added another option which is the old behavior (storing all names) which is now
04:30.39CIA-17off by default.
04:32.18RUBiKcowpiez: not sure.. i'd try posting to ask on the wowace.com forums.. in the developers/svn sub-forum?
04:32.51sylvanaarRUBiK its mostly because its the one bit of data that prat accumulates, and the old setting could accumulate alot of names
04:33.33RUBiKgotcha.. makes sense.
04:38.03ZealotOnAStickOy, 66 and 14% into that level, and just now going to start Nagrand.
04:39.34Mikmaoh dear lord, someone shoot this user http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4448.msg78681#msg78681
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04:41.49Thraei'm talking on my new ppc-6700 pda phone. now i can irc anywhere!
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04:43.40stavmarhello, my Fubar has this dark look to it, like it is faded out or something, any thoughts on why this might be happening, Sometimes its the whole tooltip and sometimes its is part of the tooltip?
04:46.09cowpieztransparency?
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04:48.37stavmarhmm, i still see the text and when i adjust the transperancy it just goes black, when I relaoad ui it goes away but eventually comes back
04:48.53Mikmastavmar: does this happen to you only when you log in and only once after login?
04:49.14stavmari think that may be the case Mikma
04:49.26Mikmastavmar: using Skinner by any chance?
04:49.31stavmarI am not
04:49.45Mikmaanything other that adds a black bottom on your ui?
04:50.15stavmarthe two newest mods I added have been itemsyn and sanity, and I do not recall any of the mods adding a black bottom can you name some?
04:50.49Mikmawell, skinner was one :P
04:51.10Mikmai'm not sure what's the problem you're trying to explain so i'm just shooting blanks here hehe
04:51.40stavmarok thanks I will probably get a screen shot and link it to describe it better
04:52.33stavmarLike in teh guild fu tooltip the MOTD is darkened a little, it is on the top of my UI, then teh members listed in teh guild are looking normal
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04:54.05Tain<PROTECTED>
04:54.19MikmaTain: the simpsons!
04:57.11Nomad_Wandereranyone know about a mod called cooldown, by werehamster?
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05:01.17MikmaNomad_Wanderer: wereHamster|zZz does
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05:02.44Nomad_WandererA guildie somehow stumbled apon wowace.com/files and downloaded that mod, and loves it, but wants to move the frame around.. I started to look at the code.. but didn't see any onclick stuff.
05:02.46ThraeGrrr
05:02.59Nomad_Wandererthought others might have used it, or were familiar with it.
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05:06.24ckknighthey all
05:06.28ckknighthow's everyone doing?
05:07.00Mikmatesting MAU but seems like it's not working properly
05:07.07ThraePlaying around with my new Pocket PC Phone instead of being productive.
05:07.53syerenCartographer Mana Tombs doesn't show bosses :(
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05:09.23ckknightKemayo: ping
05:11.39ckknighthrm, looks like he went away
05:11.53ckknightguess there's no one stopping me from hacking up QuestFu, then
05:12.32cynyrmm tinkering
05:18.50ilifinFencer259212007-01-23 16:50:43 -0500An acution house AddOn to make the life of each fence easier. (Neriak) <--- shouldn't someone fix that :p
05:20.35yacoobcould be worse
05:20.36yacoob:)
05:23.25ilifinMikma - MAU you talked about earlier, was that mac ace updater?
05:24.35ilifinMikma - I recommend trying JAU (java), works splended on my iMac here
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05:48.19Arrowmasterckknight: i think i just bugged out the instance loot tablet in cartographer, i hit lock on the right click menu and now cant select anything in it or unlock it
05:48.29ckknighthrm
05:49.33Arrowmastercan you atleast tell me a script command to unlock it?
05:51.41ckknight<PROTECTED>
05:54.51ckknightoh
05:54.52ckknightlock
05:54.54ckknightyou hold alt.
05:56.07markvi'm sad there's no map for batonica in cartographer?? :(
05:58.16Arrowmasteralso needs a map of old hillsbrad
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05:58.48Tricksta_YAY!
05:59.19Tricksta_Oh my goodness ....Cartographer Waypoints OWNS
05:59.29Tricksta_I love the HUD arrow
05:59.38Tricksta_or whatever you call the arrow above head
05:59.51Tricksta_*highfive* Ckk
06:00.11ckknightwaypoint error
06:00.13ckknightarrow*
06:00.33ckknightmarkv: you're free to code it in ;-)
06:00.44Tricksta_Man, not only did you add a request, you innovated a new type of waypointing!
06:00.55Tricksta_Thanks Ckk
06:00.57ckknightno, I totally stole it from another mod.
06:00.59Tricksta_It is awesome
06:01.04Tricksta_Serious?
06:01.04ckknightMapNotes2, I beleive.
06:01.06ckknightbelieve*
06:01.16Tricksta_Mapnotes2 is not released yet
06:01.18ckknightgranted, my implementation is better.
06:01.30ckknightit's on WoWI...
06:01.37Tricksta_Thanks Ckk, is all I can say
06:01.52Tricksta_I have not played for 3 days and login and update to see this
06:01.53ckknightyep.
06:02.09ThraeThere was a POC a long while back that used the waypoint system ckknight implemented. I'm pretty sure it was before MapNotes2.
06:02.27ckknightMetaMap has a waypoint system now, but my arrow is nicer
06:02.57Tricksta_I have played with alot of map programs, and never seen a graphical arrow that moves with character
06:03.11Tricksta_unless it was an un-popular addon
06:03.44Tricksta_Cause I have 3 friends that just downloaded this and are checkng it out now, and all were blown away
06:03.58Tricksta_so if it did exist, was not very well known
06:04.13Antiar1Hm.
06:04.24Antiar1There isn't any way to get the facing direction of the minimap arrow model, is there?
06:04.30ckknightsure there is
06:04.32Tricksta_And well who cares, it is ACE 2
06:04.34ckknightit's called magic
06:04.38ckknightTricksta_: no it doesn't.
06:04.43Antiar1I'm not seeing any getters in the widget API.
06:04.43ckknightit uses Ace2
06:04.52ThraeBah I'm not getting anything done tonight.
06:04.52Tricksta_Ok
06:04.54ckknightAntiar1: I told you it was magic
06:05.04Antiar1Heh.
06:05.12ckknightAntiar1: basically, get all the children of the minimap
06:05.13Antiar1Minimap:MagicTrick() isn't working for me. :(
06:05.18Antiar1Aha, right.
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06:05.21ckknightget the last Model that's unnamed
06:05.22Antiar1That makes sense. Thanks.
06:05.27ckknightthat's the minimap arrow
06:05.32ckknightthen on that, do :GetFacing()
06:05.53ckknightand that's the facing in radians, rotated 90º counter-clockwise
06:06.09ckknightso you have that direction
06:06.21Tricksta_Now I can bang through my quest tloc's
06:06.22ckknightthen you just take current position, subtract from the endpoint position, then run atan2 on it
06:06.34ckknightand subtract the two angles
06:06.38ckknighttada, you have your ending angle.
06:06.59Antiar1Awesome
06:07.06Antiar1I'm gonna do a floaty compass overlay
06:07.20Antiar1Inertia on it and all that.
06:07.42Tricksta_Hey Ckk, I dont know how .....but I am going to get you back on this one somehow...well just let me know when you need another one of those *things* for your testing purposes thats the least I can do
06:08.34Tricksta_*stretch* - Well time to take a shower....I got home an hour ago and have been playing with Carto since....
06:09.01CIA-1703ckknight * r26248 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua:
06:09.02CIA-17FuBar_QuestsFu - changed the colorizeQuestText a bit.
06:09.02CIA-17- Now properly fetches the name of the questgiver and zone name, colors them first in the text/description so that it shows nicely.
06:09.02CIA-17- Colors the questgiver stuff now, so it blends in nicely.
06:09.03CIA-17- Remove the near-pointless Crayon stuff from the colorizeQuestText deal.
06:09.10ckknightTricksta_: things? like money?
06:09.30ckknightAntiar1: sounds cool
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06:10.00ckknighttest out the QuestsFu deal
06:10.08ckknightit doesn't change much, but I think it's better
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06:12.29Antiar1Hm.
06:12.50Antiar1I can rotate a texture with creative use of SetTexCoord, yes?
06:13.39Antiar1Would be nice if I could rotate a frame, but I suppose that's not viable.
06:14.44ckknightyes
06:14.56ckknightbut it's tricksy
06:15.07ckknightcheck out the Instances module in Cart
06:15.09Antiar1I'm fine with transform matrices.
06:15.12Antiar1Will do.
06:15.13ckknightokay
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06:26.45CIA-1703ckknight * r26249 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - added a minWidth thing to the Tablet registration arguments
06:28.20CIA-1703ckknight * r26250 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua:
06:28.20CIA-17FuBar_QuestsFu - took away the ugly hack to force a min width for the quest log frame, set minWidth to 400 for now.
06:28.20CIA-17Note: I mostly did this cause I didn't like the blank line under the Close button
06:28.28ckknightKemayo: ^---
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06:34.01Tricksta_Gah
06:34.09Tricksta_Have to go pick up a friend
06:34.40Tricksta_Thanks again CKK and all you ACE 2 peeps....heck even Sutorix is writing Fishing Buddy in Ace now
06:34.44ckknightAce2
06:34.45Tricksta_*wave*
06:34.46ckknightgoddammit
06:34.51Tricksta_cry
06:34.57ckknightlearn!
06:35.01Tricksta_you know I mean nothing but good
06:35.05ckknightyes, I know
06:35.08Tricksta_ok
06:35.10ckknightjust like Borat.
06:35.15ckknightbut look at him now
06:35.16Tricksta_hehe
06:35.20Tricksta_cry
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06:42.45Fisker-great success
06:43.28Herioanyone thought about a mailbox mod for cartog?
06:43.41Herioautomatic notes marking mailboxes
06:44.18ckknightPOI
06:47.36CIA-1703ckknight * r26251 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (8 files): FuBar_QuestsFu - now highlights directions (north, northern, northeast, northeastern, etc.)
06:47.52ckknightKemayo: ^--- another awesome commit
06:50.54Fisker-says you :o
06:51.36ckknightwhat?
06:51.41ckknightyou know how useful that is?
06:51.55Fisker-Yeah, i'm raping you
06:52.00Fisker-:P
06:52.26[FH]Birdemaniwhich mod shows xp/hour?
06:52.28[FH]Birdemanifor fubar
06:53.02Fisker-fubar_experiencefu does
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06:54.24WillJitsuI'm having a problem with OneBag.  When I move items around, they don't update until I close and reopen the bag.  Any idea what causes this?
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06:55.13Funkeh`morning
06:55.26Silviu-At me they update just fine
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06:56.43WillJitsuSilviu-: mine work fine sometimes, but sometimes it doesn't.  And it always happens when transferring items to/from the bank window
06:58.51Silviu-WillJitsu don`t know what could cause this, on 2 computers that i have it works fine, did u have the latest rev ? and did u try wiping the savedvars only from One*
07:00.23Kemayockknight: How dare you???  I'm reverting everything!!!
07:00.30WillJitsuI do have the latest version, but lemme try wiping those files
07:00.33Kemayo(I kid -- I like what you did. :D )
07:00.47ckknightjk
07:00.51Kemayo;_;
07:03.03[FH]Birdemaniwhats the LOD mod?
07:03.21Silviu-Load on demand
07:03.37[FH]Birdemanieither im that drunk
07:03.41[FH]Birdemanior its not on wau
07:04.03Funkeh`there is no mod called lod afaik
07:04.07Funkeh`lol
07:04.11[FH]Birdemanithere used to be a mod
07:04.15[FH]Birdemanithat showed all the LOD mods
07:04.21[FH]Birdemaniand allowed you to turn them off/on
07:04.26[FH]Birdemaniptargets worked with it
07:04.40Funkeh`if there was, im pretty sure it wasn't called lod
07:04.42FinMCP / LoadIT / AddonManager / MCPFu
07:04.55gngsk|overlord
07:05.00[FH]Birdemaniwas it overlord?
07:05.03Finthey allow you to dick with load on demand addons
07:05.21Finoh
07:05.25[FH]Birdemaniill have to look tomorrow when i am sober
07:05.32[FH]Birdemanihad a pitcher of long islands
07:05.52Finexcellent
07:05.54WillJitsuSilviu-: I think clearing those files fixed it.  thanks man
07:06.17Funkeh`is there some way to make a list of mods on the svn that use a certain external? like a search?
07:06.18gngsk|http://tardmrr.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Overlord/Overlord.toc
07:06.35FinFunkeh: grep -r
07:06.52Silviu-WillJitsu heh no problem, strange
07:07.31Finhow big is the total collection of addons hosted on wowace.com/files/ ?
07:07.36Finjust out of curiosity
07:08.29Silviu-Wtb 4k gold :P
07:08.50Funkeh`Fin: that makes no sense to me
07:08.57FinFunkeh`: oh, sorry
07:09.31FinFunkeh`: grep is a command used in Unix or Cygwin (most commonly) to search files for a string; grep -r searches all files recursively from the current directory
07:09.55Funkeh`i see
07:10.02Finyou'd have to have a local copy of all the addons I guess
07:11.16NightHawkTheSanequick question: is there a specific thread, or place i should go to note items/itemids that arn't in pt2/3?
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07:12.10Funkeh`theres a pt3 thread
07:12.38Funkeh`libraries and mixins
07:12.53NightHawkTheSaneokay. thanks. Should I even bother with noting things that arn't in pt2? or not bother?
07:13.06NightHawkTheSane(i only ask as baggins and autobar still seem to use PT2, so. )
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07:13.22Funkeh`the authors are both working on upgrading to pt3
07:14.04Funkeh`so imo just note it for pt3, and try to kill off pt2
07:14.15NightHawkTheSaneyeah, thats what i was wondering
07:14.41Fisker-damnit sylvanaar prat broke it
07:14.49PProvostUsing aguf, is there a way to make party pets stack at the bottom of the party stack regardless of party size? I can't figure it out.
07:14.54Nargiddleyi could probably hack pt3 support into baggins quickly, its the browser that'll take time
07:15.23Funkeh`imo just take your time and perfect it, theres no rush
07:15.49NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: yeah, I didn't mean to imply I was impatient or anything :)
07:15.59Nargiddleyi've been thinking of it for a while
07:16.10Nargiddleygotta figure out how to handle transitioning
07:16.38Nargiddleywill be both for a time, with a warning if you use a pt2 rule to convert it i think
07:18.11Kemayosylvanaar: How can I stop the names of people in guild chat ending with ":GUILD"?
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07:21.36Fisker-Kemayo it's the "Show group" function in playernames :I
07:22.24CIA-1703funkydude 07Bank * r26255 10SpecialEventsEmbed/: -copied / tagged
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07:24.20KemayoHmmm.  That's annoying.  Because I like it when it shows groups.
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07:27.01KemayoHmm... maybe an option to customize it.  Because I wouldn't mind just :g and :f.
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07:53.45FinI'm having trouble making my brain understand how to use SVN properly. is there anyone patient enough to answer some questions for me about how to merge changes and stuff?
07:53.50Fin+here
07:54.55Finit's all working and configured correctly, I just don't know how to use it properly
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08:05.21DrZootwhat do all you mac users use for an svn client? is there a graphical one thats decent or do I just go with the cli
08:06.24xyu`Does FOAD work with 2.0?
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08:08.21KemayoDrZoot: TortoiseSVN, assuming you're on Windows.
08:08.45xyu`i think he said mac :D
08:11.38DrZootyeah, im on mac
08:12.23DrZootin fact I just bought this mac about 3 days ago and its the first one ive owned, so im still trying to find out what software I need
08:14.31xyu`winsows!
08:14.34xyu`er d
08:15.54xyu`Anyone know if i can make Banzai alert me for aggro if someone targets me.  (player)   Squishy used to do this and man i loved it to death.
08:16.03xyu`i tried banzai's aggro alert and it only works for mobs.
08:16.10xyu`Grid's works for players but it has no audio warning.
08:16.24xyu`just that red box, and i don't really pay attention to that ^^
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08:19.21Dhragamorning all
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08:26.32xyu`hmm i can't get mobhealth to work w/ nurfed ><
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08:27.30CIA-17SpellBinder:
08:27.30CIA-17- Hopefully slightly smarter about detecting duplicate macro names.
08:29.27Aenslaedis there any mod that helps with selecting the jewels in jewel crafting?
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08:30.18Aenslaedfor a non jewelcrafter that is.
08:31.53steevhm
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08:32.33xyu`bah my questfu just broke
08:32.37xyu`not showing up anywhere
08:34.16steevits missing an external
08:34.28steevor something - it says its missing deformant
08:34.32steevor deformat
08:34.35steevsomething
08:34.42Aenslaeddeformat is right
08:35.08steevhttp://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/hardtoread.png - this is the issue I was talking about with suddenly my FuBar stuff becomes hard to read
08:35.14Aenslaedhttp://files.wowace.com/Deformat/Deformat-r25921.zip
08:35.15xyu`how to fix? :D
08:36.06steevdownload that file
08:36.11steevput it in your addons folder
08:36.14steevrestart game
08:36.16steevenjoy
08:38.11steevanyone have any ideas on what might be causing my issue? just seems to happen at random times, and there are no errors that show up when it does
08:38.55xyu`just looks like the transparency is set to 100% ?
08:39.29steevunclickable
08:39.51steevand no - its darker than transparency set to 100%
08:39.54xyu`hmm questfu still not showig up.  i'm going to revert to the old version
08:41.32xyu`actually the whole lib folder is empty. wonder how that happened
08:42.57Funkeh`what prat module is it that is adding :GUILD onto the end of each name
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08:44.19steevFunkeh`: good question, what i was looking for just now myself
08:46.53CIA-1703nymbia * r26266 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Finish populating toadkiller's changes to child embeds.
08:48.15xyu`when there's a red (!) on my svn folders does that mean there's an update available?
08:48.24Kaelten-Laptophows the life guys?
08:48.31xyu`i'm new to this whole svn thang
08:48.32Funkeh`no
08:48.42xyu`what is it?
08:48.50Funkeh`it means your local file does not match the copy on the server
08:48.52Funkeh`in other words
08:48.53Funkeh`you edited it
08:48.55xyu`i have green checks and red exclamation points
08:48.56Aenslaedxyu, i just use wowace updater and it makes everything so much easier
08:49.11Funkeh`green checks = good
08:49.16xyu`i edited it? o_O  i dont have the ability!
08:49.21xyu`oki
08:49.24Funkeh`you edited your local copy
08:50.07xyu`hmm i dont know how to do that though haha.  or i did it w/o knowing
08:51.58xyu`so using svn how do i get it green again? :D
08:52.16nymbiaright click -> revery
08:52.24nymbias/y/t/
08:52.58xyu`thanks, worked.
08:53.50xyu`didn't remove the ! tho
08:54.03xyu`oh well it still works i think
08:54.26nymbiait'll go away when the status updates probably
08:54.33xyu`ok
08:55.59xyu`now to get mobhealth working for nurfed
09:01.39Industrialhttp://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2594/wowscrnshot012807100022qq9.jpg
09:02.04IndustrialIs there a better way not to get trade equipment in my weapons group?
09:02.42NightHawkTheSanenot particularly
09:02.47NightHawkTheSane(at least, not that i've seen)
09:03.09Industrial:(
09:03.17Industrialill have to live with that then
09:03.22Industrialfor the time being >:o
09:03.29art3missyl what did you do to prat?
09:04.08NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: for what it's worth, it annoys me too :P
09:04.16art3misxyu`: theres the line post of what to replace in the nurfed forums
09:04.34xyu`k, ill go look. do you know which forums?
09:05.01art3misthe nurfed ones
09:05.08art3misjust do a search for mobhealth
09:05.12art3misits a way old bug
09:05.12xyu`kk
09:05.21art3misi like he removed support when mobhealth was broken
09:05.31art3miss/like/think
09:05.54art3misshould just be a simple code snippet
09:06.29xyu`simple in my hands turns into disasterous
09:13.43art3mislaugh lemme check my old backups and see if it in there
09:14.02Fisker-~seen grennon
09:14.06purlgrennon <n=jeramy@user-0cdv8vd.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 23h 27m 31s ago, saying: 'but its the correct setting'.
09:15.04art3misif (MobHealth3 and unit == "target") then
09:15.04art3miscurrhp, maxhp = MobHealth3:GetUnitHealth("target", currhp, maxhp);
09:15.04art3misend
09:15.04art3mis
09:15.24art3misin nurf_utility\nurf_unit.lua
09:15.38xyu`yeah that seems to already be there.
09:15.52art3mismight need to just remove the 3
09:16.08art3missicne its not mobhealth3 anymore
09:16.22xyu`i'll try that
09:16.30steevanyone here familiar with dongle?
09:16.32steevi have local P = DongleStub("DongleUtils") - and when i load the game, I get the error, Cannot find a library with name 'DongleUtils'
09:16.32art3misoh wait no ignore me ;P
09:16.43art3misthe dir is MobHealth
09:16.49art3misthe mod lua name is still mobhealth3
09:17.13art3misare you installing with imbedded libs?
09:17.20art3misif not ya might wanna
09:17.20xyu`yea
09:17.30art3misabout the dongle that is
09:17.31xyu`i'll delete nurfed
09:17.33xyu`and mobhealth
09:17.36xyu`and reinstall, see if that helps
09:17.39xyu`oh
09:17.49art3miswhats it doing that it doesnt work?
09:17.56art3misalways displays %'s?
09:18.01art3misor does it just adjust slowly
09:18.04xyu`me? it's blank
09:18.07xyu`no text at all
09:18.07steevart3mis: well, i have it in the libs for each addon, but i also have dongle in the main addons folder - would that cause issues?
09:18.15art3mison just target?
09:18.18xyu`i get a 100/100 on my focus bar only
09:18.27art3misoh
09:18.34steevdoes the directory name matter?
09:18.38art3misumm i think that may just be a toggle option
09:18.39steevi mean Dongle vs dongle
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09:19.00art3misnot really
09:19.08art3misallt aht matters is what the lua registers the name as
09:19.26art3misand i dont remember off hand if its case picky
09:19.52art3misif i remember right you mod the unit frames to show real health/mana instead of percent
09:20.10art3misi think im gonna start directing my lines so you two dont get confused ;P
09:20.52art3misxyu`: i'd suggest removing the mobhealth dir and reunpacking nurfed
09:21.01xyu`yeah i'll give that a shot
09:21.03art3missometimes conflicting calls mess it up too
09:21.25art3misthen ocne its loaded double check that its showing the real totals in the unit frames settings
09:21.53CIA-1703ckknight * r26267 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - SetMapToCurrentZone() on assorted events if the world map isn't open
09:22.20art3missteev: one problem might be a double load of it and it not reading the proper location.. i know case doesnt amtter in functions but not sure about how it cals files
09:23.22art3misi gave up on nurfed a while back when he started getting all artsy on the menus n stuff
09:23.33art3misag_uf is just as good
09:23.44art3mishell just read the wowace file listings and you cn make a nice ui
09:23.53art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg
09:24.01art3misthats 97% wowace
09:25.42art3misonce anti is done with sanitybags ill prollygrab zomgpanels and put out a 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024 and a 1650x1040(wide) layout compilation
09:25.56art3misjust cuz its sexy ;P
09:26.12steevhow do you do those people
09:26.19Funkeh`i have a dislike to zomg5billion fubar plugins
09:26.20steevinstead of portraits
09:26.29Funkeh`i have 2 fubar plugins
09:26.52art3mismodel citizen
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09:28.03art3mishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4500-ZuxanasModelCitizen.html
09:28.08art3misthats it there
09:28.25art3misjust remember to make the aprty ones smaller and disable it in raid ;P
09:28.38xyu`i use about 6,  when leveling i must have questfu,  i like microbarfu, uhh.  performancefu,  cuz of my taiwan ping.  and like 3 others i dont even remember.
09:29.28art3misheh i keep those up there cuz i use them ;P
09:29.28Funkeh`why 'must' you
09:29.28art3misand it looks pretty ;P
09:29.28Funkeh`i don't have any quest addons tbh
09:29.33Funkeh`blizzard tracking works fine for me
09:29.34art3miscuz im alzy ;P
09:29.36art3mislazy
09:29.42art3misand like everything easy access
09:29.48xyu`nah  idont realy use it for the tracking.  
09:29.52Funkeh`well thats not a 'must' then
09:29.57Funkeh`its an 'im lazy and cba'
09:29.57xyu`i use it because the quest log is so small
09:30.10art3misnever said it was a must ;lP
09:30.14Funkeh`thats how people design efficient ui's by skipping the i' cba' addons
09:30.16xyu`there was an addon that made it bigger,  uberquest or osmething but i forget :P
09:30.33art3misextended quest
09:30.39art3misthat was a nice addon that stopped
09:31.05art3misim not that concerned with efficient ui ;)
09:31.41Funkeh`i never said you were
09:31.43art3misi have 4g of mem 8ms read/write ata133 sata drives and a amd 3000+xp
09:31.43xyu`do any of you know of a way i can get an audio aggro warning when i'm targetted by players?
09:31.44art3mis;)
09:31.45Funkeh`i merely stated a fact
09:31.48Brunershmm
09:31.51xyu`Squishy used to do that, and i LOVED it.
09:31.55Brunerswhy do i get this ->
09:31.58Bruners10:30:22 [G] <68:Nick:GUILD>: blablabla
09:32.01art3misaestheticly whatcha thing?
09:32.01xyu`i tried banzai but it only works for mobs :(
09:32.03Brunersthat GUILD thingie
09:32.08art3misprat update
09:32.15art3misthat syl didnt finish and went to bed
09:32.48art3misyou could mod banzai
09:32.51xyu`that audio aggro warning worked when stealthed rogues targeted me as well
09:32.52xyu`So awesome
09:32.58art3misjust need a new event and a different target ;P
09:33.05xyu`i dont know any of that stuff :(
09:33.09xyu`Grid works
09:33.11xyu`the dot shows up
09:33.13xyu`when players target me
09:33.14xyu`but no audio
09:33.20art3mishehe read the code
09:33.23Brunersso annoying
09:33.24Arrowmasterthats impossible
09:33.26art3misshouldnt be too hard to mod
09:33.27Bruners><
09:33.37sylvanaarwhatcha mean
09:33.42art3missyl
09:33.46art3misprats being dorky
09:33.48Arrowmastertheres no way to tell when something targets you unless you or somebody in your party/raid is targeting them
09:34.02art3misits appeanding GUILD to the end of anything i say or a guildie says
09:34.05xyu`negative
09:34.19art3misin normal channels
09:34.22art3misnot just guildchat
09:34.24xyu`i'm 100% sure squishy said "aggro"  when a player targeted me, and i was solo not in a party.
09:34.26xyu`in azshara
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09:34.31Brunerssylvanaar: 10:30:22 [G] <68:Nick:GUILD>: blablabla
09:34.32Arrowmasterit cant
09:34.39Arrowmasterunless your already targeting them
09:34.40xyu`:(
09:34.48xyu`i wasn't
09:34.50art3misi like where yer going with the new tag though
09:35.01Arrowmasterthat is 100% impossible to do in the ui then
09:35.08art3mishowever being able to set up a shortform alias might be helpeful
09:35.10xyu`hmm let me go test it w/ grid
09:35.14xyu`i'm pretty sure it works there too.  1 sec
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09:35.59xyu`you're probably right, but i just want to make sure
09:36.02art3misim gonna head to bed
09:36.07art3misactually
09:36.11art3misjust targetting it cant catch
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09:36.17art3misif they start casting it can
09:36.23Arrowmasteryeah
09:36.25xyu`it doesn't catch the target
09:36.26art3misdefend yourself worked that way
09:36.31xyu`it just notes that someone is targeting you
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09:36.54Arrowmasterif you dont have a target and somebody just starts casting something on you then you will automaticly target them
09:37.08art3misif someone sees anti tell him to commit a beta of his new bags for me to muck with
09:37.09Arrowmasterand since your targeting them you can check their target and see its you
09:37.35art3misbut
09:37.36xyu`you're right. i didn't get the aggro dot
09:37.46art3misit could work on the same way that rare trackers do
09:37.51art3mison mouseover
09:37.56xyu`man i swear. i can even remember the situation. i was farming jadenyr demons or wahtever
09:37.57art3misthe tooltip can grab thier target
09:37.59xyu`i had them targeted.
09:38.10xyu`and a rogue targetted me near them.  he didn't get aggro
09:38.13xyu`and squishy warned me :(
09:38.17art3misso if you mouse around you you might catch them targeting you and poof it lets you know
09:38.23Arrowmasteryeah mouseover works too
09:38.26CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26268 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: there was a missing parameter in most of the addName calls causing the scan type string to be put in the subgroup field.
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09:39.07xyu`hmm ok.  i'll just give up on that dream then.  way to shatter it!!
09:39.12Arrowmasterthis sound bug is so annoying, been playing for 2 weeks with only like half the game sounds working, i reboot and they all work
09:39.13art3mislaugh
09:39.25art3misgot em on loop?
09:39.29Arrowmasterno
09:39.32art3miswell then
09:39.40Arrowmasterhas something to do with my sound card i think
09:39.48art3misput it on loop ;P
09:40.00art3misa lot of the time if the sounds been cached it wont just start up again
09:40.00Arrowmasterits not just the music
09:40.06art3misoh
09:40.14art3misyeah i noticed that in beta a fgew times too
09:40.17art3misvery rarely
09:40.18Arrowmasterlike for 2 weeks even error sound hasnt worked
09:40.32art3misrun dxdiag?
09:40.41Arrowmasterand no sound on the login screen either
09:40.53art3misrun dxdiag and make sure IT passes
09:41.03art3misif it does then its yer soundcard settings
09:41.24Brunerssylvanaar: i cant get channel tabs to blink when theres activity on a channel
09:41.33art3mislike it as unlikely as it sounds, getting irq errors and ceasing function til the upnp stuff rescans
09:41.34Brunerssylvanaar: any know issues around that?
09:41.47art3misthey blink
09:41.56art3misdo you ahve them shown or hidden?
09:42.00Arrowmasteri think its something to do with the sound channels, because some things outside of wow didnt work either
09:42.02Brunerstried both
09:42.15art3misany other chat mods running?
09:42.21art3mislike lowdown or chatscroll?
09:42.26Brunersonly prat
09:42.46art3misrm the saved varibals prat.lua
09:42.51art3misdisable the mod login
09:42.55art3mislogout
09:42.58art3misreneable
09:43.05art3mislogin
09:43.11Brunersdo have cellular tho
09:43.13art3misand cehck bug scak
09:43.23art3misprat doesnt like playing with others
09:43.30art3misits pretty cranky about it
09:43.47art3misheh then again i ahted prat when i first start using it
09:43.56art3misthen i mucked with it ad its become handy
09:44.27art3misalthough i'd LOVE if you could make a popup window built in for loot rolls OR replace/truncate them
09:44.34art3misits not that i dotn wana see then
09:44.46art3misi just dont like the long lines they produce
09:47.32Finwith AceConsole, is there an easy way to make aliases of args?
09:47.43Brunershmm, WoWaceupdater dont update prat now
09:47.53BrunersPrat - Already at rev 26247 - Skipping
09:48.00Finor do I need to just repeat the same arg with a different name?
09:48.56CIA-1703shiftos * r26269 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: translated the new strings in PlayerNames (no more true values in localizations, pls :p)
09:52.38steevhmm
09:52.53Brunerswhere do i find r26269 of prat then ?
09:53.04steevart3mis: XlootRoll or whatever
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09:53.58steevBruners: you wait for it to get pushed out
09:55.46steevfwiw, i just used the wau, and it pulled that version
10:00.09xyu`bah i removed mobhealth, and nurfed, and reinstalled , still nothing ><  
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10:07.06steevwell, i got it somewhat working, must do more research
10:09.01todd`http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cas/265992390.html
10:09.02todd`heh
10:09.19steevis there a channel to talk about using Dongle? or just the mailing lists?
10:10.49Brunersart3mis: still no luck on the blinking
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10:19.54art3miswierd
10:20.01art3misusually i have mine turned off
10:20.08art3misturned em on and they work fine
10:20.27art3misis the addon Channel Tabs in the disabled list by chance?
10:20.47art3missteev: making a mod using dongle?
10:21.20Brunersart3mis: having it toggled
10:21.31art3misxyu`: you dont have any other frames that might be conflicting?
10:21.40Brunersthe tab not blinking only contains a custom channel
10:21.52xyu`i got it working, i needed to do a /script NURFED_FRAMES=nil command
10:21.53Brunersis that the reason ?
10:21.55xyu`then /console reloadui
10:21.56xyu`and it worked
10:21.59art3misdid you enable that frame in the list?
10:22.07Brunersfor that tab yes
10:22.23art3mishrm im kind of at a loss
10:22.30art3misany prat errors in bugsack?
10:22.38Brunersno bugs at all
10:23.00art3misxyu`: you might be able to just dump that line into the nufered_utils lua
10:23.12art3misso you condt need to type it/macro it all the time
10:23.23art3miss/condy/dont/
10:23.41xyu`i dont think i will. i think i had an obscure option set somewhere
10:23.44art3misup to the newest version on yer libs and prat?
10:23.45xyu`that disabled healthbar text
10:23.49Brunersart3mis: hmm, its seems to work on the general tab
10:23.51art3misand do you isntall with externals or no?
10:23.54Brunersbut not the custom one
10:24.10art3misim assuming the custom tab is hidden right?
10:24.37art3miscuz it wont blink if its foreground
10:24.37Brunershave it on default
10:24.38steevart3mis: trying to
10:24.41xyu`wow i lost all my cartographer data somehow :(
10:25.04art3misnew import system there was a horrid bug i think about importing and exporing that got sqaushed
10:25.05steevbut i can't seem to figure out how to use DongleUtils - it doesn't seem to like DongleStub('DongleUtils')
10:25.20art3miswiki no help to ya steev?
10:25.48steevi think i need like, n00bs guide to dongle :(
10:25.49art3misi know nothing about dongle so the wiki is all i can say aside frompossibly it not pointing to the right lib location
10:26.40art3misxyu`: heh yeah i had that with aguf for a while
10:26.58art3misdid ony and mc without being able to see mobs or players names on the unit frames
10:27.05art3misthank got masterassist worked ;P
10:27.21art3misit just went away one day
10:28.54neeneexyu`: That's why WoWAceUpdater suggests a backup by default :P
10:29.07xyu`luckily i did ^_^
10:29.11neenee:)
10:29.27xyu`can i import my backed up stuff inot this new carto?
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10:29.35xyu`s/inot/into
10:29.51art3misi believe so
10:29.54Brunersart3mis: made another one and put whispers in it, and it blinks
10:30.02Brunersart3mis: but not the custom channel
10:30.03art3misyou'd need to check for docs or ask ckk how to do it
10:30.35art3misthen its just an unsupported for custom chans
10:30.48art3misjust mention to syl about possibly adding it
10:31.02art3misfor now anyways
10:31.08steevi wonder
10:31.11art3misitll prolly be changed/fixed tomorrow if ya
10:31.47art3misyay smorks done off to bed for me
10:31.57art3missomeoen pester anti for santitybags beta for me ;P
10:32.05art3mistell him to commit what hes got so i can play with it ;P
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10:34.17Arrowmasterwtb 500k xp and 3.5k gold
10:34.24Arrowmastersoo close
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10:35.23steevYES!
10:35.25steevhaha
10:35.28xyu`is there any way to move the quest completion text?   "xxxx 1/1"  etc.
10:35.30xyu`the yellow text
10:35.42xyu`that pops up
10:35.43steevart3mis: they changed it from DongleUtils to DongleUtils-Beta0
10:35.47Brunerssylvanaar: could i add a suggestion to add blinking tabs for custom channels?
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10:43.41xyu`does anyones topscoresfu work if its filtered for only players?  
10:43.45xyu`mine doesn't.  
10:43.49xyu`sets the scores to 0/0
10:44.07Finis there an easy (builtin to Lua) way to count the number of variables in a table that only uses keys, other than looping through the table to count?
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10:52.22Kaeltenhttp://www.b-list.org/weblog/2007/01/24/chronicle-ages-web
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10:57.19Kaeltenbah not even a chuckle :P
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11:01.58Kaeltenthank you nighthawk :)
11:03.07ElkanoNickenyfiken, is it possible that the filters for TrainerFu broke display of map icons on deDE?
11:13.00[Wobin]hm
11:13.01[Wobin]: [2007/01/27 22:01:35-316-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'.
11:13.02[Wobin]<in C code>: in function `SetPoint'
11:13.09[Wobin]Does that mean anything to anyone?
11:13.24[Wobin]As to where to start looking for which addon is actually causing it?
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11:18.02FinI've got some addon installed called LaricActionBlocked that reports which addon is being naughty when that happens
11:18.08Finif that helps
11:18.28Fincan't remember where I got it, not even sure if it does much really...
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11:21.22NickenyfikenElkano: hmm maybe
11:22.30sylvanaarnope
11:22.55CIA-1703fin * r26270 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua:
11:22.55CIA-17Prat: minor bug fixes to do with alt name deletion, error checking, display,
11:22.55CIA-17spelling; added /alt add as an alias for /alt link; standardised formatting of
11:22.55CIA-17alt names to simplify their use as table keys; removed confirmation for listall
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11:32.54NickenyfikenElkano: I guess the it will break because the filter checks for what class and professions the character have
11:33.00Nickenyfikenand they are localized i guess
11:33.24Nickenyfikenguess i have to add some Babble magic then
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11:42.17[dRaCo]autobar doesnt recognize Underspore Pods, is there an easy way to add it?
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11:44.45NightHawkTheSaneyeah, just manually drag it in to a slot
11:44.57NightHawkTheSanethat's what I did for a handful of consumables it doesn't reognize
11:45.05NightHawkTheSaneor rather, that PT2 doesn't recognize
11:45.08CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26271 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
11:45.09CIA-17Babble-2.2:
11:45.09CIA-17- Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: added german translation for "Veiled Sea"
11:46.49Rahvinhrm
11:46.58Rahvinhaving a problem with latest AGUF, wondering if anyone can help me...
11:47.08Rahvinmy target frame isn't displaying any debuffs I cast on a target
11:47.16Rahvinbeing a warlock, this is a problem =P
11:47.17tlundsoo .. i installed FuBar and about 25 plugins, and now something is mucking around with my CastingBarFrame and my MainMenuBar
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11:47.38tlundand I dont really know how to figure out who is doing it, except disable them one by one :(
11:49.12BrunersRahvin: remove Filter auras from target?
11:50.07Rahvinalrady done
11:50.36Rahvinsides, even if it was on it should still show debuffs I can cast
11:50.45Rahvinlet me try turning it on anyway see if it does anything
11:51.04Rahvinzip
11:51.22Rahvinmaybe i should just roll back a few revisions
11:51.48Cheadsuhmm a nice bag addon.. where I can see what I have in my bank (when not at bank) and also what my alts have.. any ideas?
11:52.03ElkanoNickenyfiken, for classes there is a reverse translation in BabbleClass, for professins I don't know
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11:54.27BrunersCheads: OneView, OneBag, OneBank
11:54.38Cheadsok thanks, will try that
11:54.38Kaeltenhrm?
11:54.40Nickenyfikenya i have to look into it
11:55.34CheadsOneStorage .. is that for those too?
11:56.20KaeltenCheads: its embeded into OneView no need to install seperately
11:57.18xyu`my oneview doens't work for some reason tho :(
11:57.20xyu`i just get blank boxes
11:57.24xyu`even after i've visited my bank
11:57.28Kaeltenhrm
11:57.35Cheadsahh goodie
11:57.35Kaeltengot the latest versions?
11:57.39Brunershave you updated?
11:57.57Brunershad that problem a couple of versions ago
11:57.58xyu`yeah but i didn't delete the old folder let me try a fresh install
11:58.17Kaeltenall in all I think One* has done well almost 6 months with no major changes, it just keeps working for the most part
11:58.38xyu`yeah i've had it working before i just broke it somewhere along the line :)
11:58.46Kaelten:)
11:59.05xyu`i do that pretty well
11:59.14KaeltenI do have plans for a OneBag 3 with a lot more features and better interface
11:59.21Kaeltenjust don't have the time for it atm
12:00.16xyu`what does strata do?
12:00.18xyu`i dont notice any change
12:00.21xyu`when i move it up or down
12:00.33Silviu-xyu` u did a fresh install ?
12:00.40xyu`silv, no,
12:00.45xyu`i'm going to in a few sec tho
12:00.49xyu`actually i will right now
12:00.57Silviu-When u finish tell me if u still have baclk boxex
12:01.01xyu`since i need to put my old cartographer back in my addons, i lost all my icons
12:01.04Silviu-My girlfriend have too :)
12:01.08xyu`oki
12:01.15Silviu-black*
12:01.32Kaeltenxyu`: strata allows the onebag frame to appear ontop of other frames
12:01.35Kaeltenits just a frame level setting
12:01.39xyu`oh ok
12:02.03xyu`what's onesorter?
12:02.06xyu`a thing to come?
12:02.19Kaeltendon't know I didn't write that
12:02.28xyu`oh :P
12:02.32Kaeltennot sure if it does/ever worked
12:02.40xyu`doesn't for me. its gone!
12:03.00Silviu-;)
12:03.09hasteKaelten: poked filefront yet :) ?
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12:06.23Kaeltenya I bitched at em for a while, but they basically aren't willing to take down any that aren't mine and sweare they arn't screen raping
12:06.42Kaeltenxyu`: onebag workin?
12:06.51xyu`reloading my cartographer
12:06.54xyu`logging in now
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12:08.39hasteKaelten: Guess it's better to make a post and create a full list :)
12:09.06Kaeltenalthough I did point out to Cide that they're hosting old copies of GMail
12:09.14Kaeltenso I'm sure he's caused them all kinda hell
12:09.20hastehehe
12:09.21Kaelten;)
12:09.23xyu`i use old gmail
12:09.28xyu`i can't find anything that does mass mail
12:09.31xyu`postal doesn't for me
12:09.43CIA-1703adirelle * r26272 10SharedKoS/ (Core.lua Gather.lua):
12:09.43CIA-17SharedKoS:
12:09.44CIA-17- enabled debugging by default,
12:09.44CIA-17- debugged and completed gatherer module.
12:09.46Kaeltenhe hasn't released that part yet I don't think
12:10.32hasteGuess I'll be a total ass and mail them a list, to each file instead of folder
12:11.01Kaeltenhrm?
12:11.24xyu`hmm
12:11.27xyu`nope still not working
12:11.34xyu`0/28 slots
12:11.38xyu`<PROTECTED>
12:12.09xyu`says i have 71 gold too. i think i had that much gold before the patch
12:12.11hasteKaelten: I could just mail them a list for each sub-folder in the WoW section, which has something I don't want them to host... but I could also just generate a list to each file
12:12.39Silviu-xyu` u have like so ? http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4771/onebagproblemls6.th.jpg
12:13.05xyu`thats so tiny
12:13.05xyu`haha
12:13.28xyu`what's the non thumbnail link
12:13.38Kaeltenhaste: hehe, ya you have to prove ownership too
12:13.49vith_non-thumbnail -> http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4771/onebagproblemls6.jpg
12:13.49Silviu-http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onebagproblemls6.jpg
12:13.51Silviu-Srry :)
12:14.11xyu`nope you get more than i do
12:14.14xyu`i dont get any items in onveiew
12:14.19xyu`onebag and onebank work fine.
12:14.22hasteKaelten: Guessing my mail in the TOC should be enough
12:14.23Silviu-Ph
12:14.28xyu`but oneview is blank
12:14.32CIA-1703adirelle 07filters * r26273 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:
12:14.32CIA-17Cartographer_Quests:
12:14.32CIA-17- attempt to fix quest completion detection,
12:14.32CIA-17- fixed french local,
12:14.33CIA-17- fixed missing local variable 'f'.
12:14.33Silviu-Oh
12:14.35Silviu-oky
12:14.57xyu`hmm i'll make a cool screenshot too! one sec
12:15.10Kaeltenhaste: you'd think then huh?
12:15.43Silviu-Kaelten svn down ?
12:15.44haste*confused*
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12:16.16Kaeltenlast time I had that issue with it it was due to a bad texture file
12:16.16Kaeltenwhich is shipped in OneBag
12:16.18Kaeltenoh renchap is playing with his server
12:16.35Kaeltenit might have intermident service for  the next few mins
12:16.35Silviu-:)
12:18.08Adirelleckknight: about Carto Guild Positions, what would you think of ignoring guildies that sends localized zonename (i.e. old version) ?
12:19.05Adirelleor better, warn the current user (and eventually the remote one) that its carto version is out of date ?
12:19.55xyu`there we go  here's my broken oneview
12:19.56xyu`http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/125/wow2007012720174448te4.jpg
12:20.00xyu`and yes, my bank is full of junk
12:20.42Adirelleckknight: ping (why the hell do I never start by pinging ? :))
12:20.54xyu`oh that little arrow
12:20.59xyu`on oneview, does nothing
12:21.53Adirelleerf, gtg, my wife is requiring my for housekeeping :(
12:22.03Gnarfoz<xyu`> postal doesn't for me <- it does do speedmailing, tho
12:22.14Kaeltenxyu`: delete your OneView saved variables file and try again
12:22.21Gnarfozjust fill the recipient field and then alt-click whatever you want to mail to that recipient in your inventory
12:22.22xyu`what's that?  autocompletes the name?
12:22.30xyu`oki
12:22.37xyu`ahh
12:22.39Gnarfozno, it keeps the recipient name and then 'alt-click the item' becomes 'mail it to the recipient immediately'
12:22.45Silviu-xyu` exit game before that ^^
12:22.47xyu`alt click. i didn't see that one.
12:22.57Gnarfozworks quite nicely for me
12:23.12xyu`yeah that might be handy
12:23.29xyu`i'll give it a shot since that'll be getting updates and gmail wont.  i could get used to ti
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12:24.09CheadsKaelten nice addon that onebag etc. =)
12:24.23xyu`Kaelten: where would those saved vars be? ^_^
12:24.29xyu`n/m
12:24.30xyu`found
12:25.11Silviu-Kaelten svn2 works, but 109 revisions back
12:25.20Silviu-:_
12:25.21Silviu-:)
12:26.10Rahvinis the SVN down atm? I can't seem to access it
12:26.12KaeltenSilviu-: lol , ya he must have turned off his cronjob
12:26.23KaeltenRahvin: ya renchap is playing with the server
12:26.32Rahvindamn
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12:26.39Rahvinanyone got a semi recent AGUF version they could send me?
12:26.45Silviu-~poke renchap
12:26.55purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind renchap, pokes renchap repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
12:26.55xyu`that worked btw thanks ^^
12:27.14haarmRahvin, use WAU ?
12:27.15KaeltenRahvin: files.wowace.com
12:28.14Rahvini was having an issue with that one
12:28.23Rahvinwas trying to go back a few revisions to see if it fixed it
12:29.13Rahvinmaybe it's the settings...i've been using AGUF for a long time, and I've always used the same layout...most recent upgrade borked something
12:29.22RahvinWhere's the savedvariables thingamajig for AGUF?
12:29.24Rahvini'll try clearing it
12:30.05KaeltenRahvin: http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames-r26115.zip
12:30.08Kaeltenerr
12:30.14KaeltenRahvin: http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/
12:30.20Kaeltenyou can see old versions of the zips there
12:30.21RahvinAye I have that one kael =P
12:30.23Rahvinahh
12:30.46Rahvinnifty
12:30.46Rahvinthanks
12:31.09Rahvini'll try clearing the savedvariables anyway...the debuffs on my target frame aren't showing up, I already downgraded once to another older version I had and no dice
12:33.17Kaelten:)
12:33.23Kaeltenwell you got a lot of versions ot play with there
12:33.47vith_is flexbar2 supposed to be working at this point?
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12:37.05Kaeltenvith_: no clue :(
12:39.17vith_hmmm :(  i miss it
12:41.01grollanyone feeling a bit helpfull? ;P
12:41.28Hjaltegroll: yea?
12:42.36Industrialvith_: no
12:42.50Industrialvith_: whine at cncfanatics :D
12:43.25grollHjalte well i need a small addon to run a script for me cause i keep forgetting to run it all the time.. but i dont know how to make an addon out of it :P
12:43.35grollthis is the script /script collectgarbage("setpause", 100)
12:43.54Industrial...
12:44.03Industrialgo go gadget how do I make an addon 101
12:44.06Industrialad wowwiki.com
12:44.09Industrialat*
12:44.43grollbah! :P i dont want to learn to make an addon ;P but yaya i'll look :P
12:45.10ZealotOnAStickThen bribe someone to make it for you.
12:45.45Rahvinhrm
12:45.49grollhehe
12:45.55Industrial~lart groll
12:46.00Rahvinstill no luck, trying something else
12:46.23grollIndustrial more like lat groll :P
12:46.34grolllat = lazy in swedish if ur not swedish that is :P
12:47.09Nickenyfikenhaha
12:47.19grollhmm what should one call ones gc fix addon hmm.. GcFix i guess :P
12:48.49poptixhurrah
12:48.55renchapmmhhh
12:49.06poptixi added primal mooncloth, shadowcloth, spellcloth and gem transmutes to fubar_tradecooldownfu
12:49.14poptixsince none of the tradeskill cooldown addons support them
12:49.25Rahvinomg yay
12:49.32Rahvinfinally got it working right...and i have no idea what i did to fix it
12:49.33Rahvinlol
12:50.03renchapsvn back
12:50.03grollhmm what'
12:50.06renchapsorry guys
12:50.09grolls the current toc number? :P
12:50.27ZealotOnAStick90210
12:50.30grollthx
12:50.40grollbah
12:50.42grollit aint :P
12:50.45nymbialol
12:50.47nymbia20003
12:50.48grolltook a few sec there hehe
12:51.04grollthanks nymbia
12:52.10ZealotOnAStickI was starting to give you the right one when you realized, but nymbia beat me to it.
12:52.17nymbialol
12:52.23groll:P
12:53.24CIA-1703nymbia * r26274 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
12:53.24CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0:
12:53.24CIA-17- Misc dataminer update. Sorry if it ate any manual changes toadkiller, let me know if it did.
12:53.24CIA-17- Added some badass new sets related to jewelcrafting.
12:53.40poptixhrm
12:53.48poptixnow how do i contact the author of this mod
12:54.00nymbiayell realllly loud?
12:55.43Fisker-badass? :o
12:55.57nymbiayes.
12:56.01Fisker-groll what does that script do?
12:56.15grollit fixes my garbage collection
12:56.15nymbiabecause i was getting really annoyed trying to find gems of a certain color on the AH
12:56.40grollmy initiall mem is more than double my max and thus the gc dont happen early enough but it goes up to my max and then forces one
12:56.46grolland my comp hangs.. and this fixes it
12:56.50nymbianow i can just grab a list in ptbrowser and name search on the AH ;)
12:58.12nymbiathere's also a set that contains what a base gem can be cut into
12:59.25nymbiai know people''ve been asking on the forums for a mod that responds to chat requests with that info.. so it should be useful somehow
12:59.27NightHawkTheSane<3 nymbia
12:59.41nymbia:)
13:00.19NightHawkTheSanenow all i need is autobar and baggins updated to pt3... >.>
13:00.55grollargh heeelp :(
13:00.56groll:P
13:01.13NightHawkTheSanenymbia: oh, is there a way in ptbrowser to search for what sets an item is in?
13:01.34grolli gotten my toc working i think.. but what do i need to do more to make it run my script? ie my addon.. i'm a total coding noob so help pretty plz :D
13:01.57nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: yeah there's a little seach box at the bottom. accepts names, itemids, and dragged-in links
13:01.59tlundckknight: instead of getting some castingbar mod, i just have a small lua-file that does UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS["CastingBarFrame"] = {baseY = 250}; to make blizzards default UI move it futher up on the screen with UIParent_ManageFramePositions(). When I installed FuBar, this no longer works, since it seems that Jostle-2.0 just places the castingbar at a hardcoded location. Any chance it might be updated to honor the settings blizzard makes in UIParent.lua?
13:02.07NightHawkTheSanenymbia: hotness
13:02.08vhaarrhttp://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
13:02.36tlundckknight: I cant find any way to move my castingbar when i have FuBar installed other than either replacing it completley or patching Jostle-2.0 :(
13:02.44nymbiagroll: stick the code you need in the lua file that the toc points to
13:03.42CIA-1703mallen * r26275 10/TradeBar/ (8 files): TradeBar: Initial release\nShow your professions in a own bar
13:04.44Kaeltennight guys
13:04.59vith_night kaelten
13:05.13nymbianight KaeltenAway
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13:10.23grollnymbia so i just need to put /script collectgarbage("setpause", 100) into the lua file that the toc points to? that's all?
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13:10.59nymbiagroll: drop the /script, but yes ;)
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13:11.32grollthank you :D nymbia we like.. all others we dont.. trying to learn groll to code wont work and it took nymbia 2 sec to help :P
13:11.44nymbialol
13:11.51groll:P
13:12.14grolltrust me.. Legorol used to try to teach me.. and he was darn good at it but i was mosly o_O
13:12.16groll:D
13:12.54nymbiaheh
13:12.57grollnymbia looks right?
13:12.57groll## Interface: 20003
13:12.58groll## Title: GC fix
13:12.58groll## Notes: Fixes the problem with Lua garbage collection if you have an initiall memory more than your 2x max memory. ie if your ui mem goes up to it's max and needs to force a gc then this should help.
13:12.58groll## Author: Stinkfot @ Daggerspine EU
13:12.59groll## Version: 0.1
13:13.01grollGc.Lua
13:13.15grolland then a file called GC.Lua and the script in there
13:13.19grollwithout the script
13:13.26nymbiayup
13:13.32grollwoohoo :D thanks
13:13.40nymbiasure :)
13:13.47grollnow time to test :D
13:14.26CIA-1703mallen * r26276 10/TradeBar/: Removed file/folder
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13:16.58CIA-1703mallen * r26277 10TradeBar/ (8 files): TradeBar: Initial release\nShow your professions in a own bar
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13:21.44NightHawkTheSaneWheeee! Level 70!
13:22.26CIA-1703nymbia * r26278 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
13:22.26CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0:
13:22.26CIA-17- Added Tradeskill.Mats.ByType sets for Motes and Primals, cuz they're special like that.
13:22.37nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: grats!
13:24.15NightHawkTheSaneThanks :)
13:29.28TularI wish I could use sRaidFrames in a party :/
13:29.28vhaarrgroll: http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
13:29.28Tularor have a sPartyFrame :/
13:29.28grollvhaarr i already read it by now.. was to much :P but i did read most of it :P
13:29.29vhaarrClearly, you didn't, or you wouldn't be asking about the TOC.
13:29.29grollwell i just wanted to make sure it was correct.. was fairly certain it was though
13:33.35Funkeh`they are special nymbia
13:33.52nymbiaFunkeh`: damn straight
13:34.16CIA-1703nymbia * r26279 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
13:34.16CIA-17GrindStatus:
13:34.16CIA-17- Don't autoswitch on negative reputation events. (back in my day, the subtract happened before the add! curse you aldor and scryers!)
13:35.10nymbiai think it's naptime, later guys
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13:36.07Leaf_ArchimondeHello. Is it any way in Lua to get a number of items in table? Can't find it fast, and re-reading all docs frightens me a bit ^_^''
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13:37.29UhuruHi
13:38.08TularIs there any addon that auto hides bars until you hover over?
13:38.35Uhurufor some debuff, the icon is not shown by buffalo, only a red square
13:38.52Uhuruhover over = ?
13:38.53hydhhrhr
13:39.14Tularyeah, until you put your mouse over
13:39.36Uhurumaybe with bartender ?
13:39.48TularI dont see that option in bartender
13:40.32Uhuruif you don't want absolutely ace2 addon you can try bongos and trinity bars
13:41.11Leaf_ArchimondeAuto-hide until hower... hmm... Interesting function ;)
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13:41.59Tularwhich action bar?
13:42.45Leaf_Archimondei don't know. Any, maybe
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13:45.51Uhuruwhat means "BoE" ? i sometimes get this letters on an item looted with XLoot
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13:46.01Fisker-"Bind on Equip"
13:46.27Uhuruok thank's :)
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13:47.58Uhurulol the letters are on money too Oo
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13:49.52CIA-1703mallen * r26280 10TradeBar/libs/:
13:49.52CIA-17TradeBar:
13:49.52CIA-17- included libs folder for mixins
13:51.10Leaf_ArchimondeIs it any way in Lua to get a number of items in a table?
13:53.46CIA-1703derkyle * r26281 10ItemSync/locals/gr.lua:
13:53.46CIA-17ItemSync:
13:53.46CIA-17- Update: German Localization by Bashman.
13:53.56vith_Leaf_Archimonde: i don't even know lua and i found it in 2 google searches
13:54.03vith_http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTableSize
13:56.53vith_actually i guess lua 5.1 is different.. maybe http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.maxn ?
13:59.02Leaf_Archimondeyeah, just found it too ;)
14:00.26Leaf_Archimonde'#' operator rocks
14:00.29Caimanwhat is that "ora2 (optional/group)" mod for ora2 ? how can i config that ?
14:03.42Caimanand i'm getting a bug in ora2 withat that module also
14:03.49Caimanwhere could i report that ?
14:05.27Caimananyone here ?
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14:06.57DhragaCkknight, you there?
14:08.34Dhragackknight, I have a strange snag with the fubars clickable tooltip... It works if I reload my UI, but after a while it stops beeing clickable / highlighted... but no error regarding it /shrug, any ideas ?
14:09.16vith_can anyone recommend a font that WoW doesn't suck at rendering?  i'm making a fontpack with clearfont2 but nothing looks good
14:09.47odtyeah, calibri ftw
14:09.53Finit doesn't some odd things though sometimes
14:10.35Finlike whenever I open the CF2 FuBar menu, it pauses then bolds the menu entries or something... but nothing that makes any difference really
14:10.38vith_calibri's the best i've seen so far, but it's too bold and fuzzy
14:10.40Finlovely font actually
14:11.40Finlucida console sans doesn't look too bad though
14:12.14Finmesses up the alignement of chat messages if you've got timetstamps showing
14:12.29vith_you mean fixed width?
14:13.09FinI do!
14:13.38vith_yeah normally i prefer fixed width fonts too.. definitely fixed number widths for timestamps at least
14:13.51vith_i wish bitmap fonts worked in WoW
14:14.01Findo you know if it's possible to use a combination of fonts within the same area of text in WoW?
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14:14.26Fincos I'd quite like to use fixed width for the timestamps, and maybe try something else for the rest of a chat message
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14:14.48Fincalibri is great anyway, I'd probably end up sticking with that anyway
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14:22.44xyu`You guys know where some high lvl cooking recipes are at?  like 360+
14:24.49kenlyric|homeI believe that 350 is the highest.
14:25.01kenlyric|homethose 30stam crawdads.
14:25.23kenlyric|homeand you need a flying mount and patience to get those :)
14:26.27xyu`hmm
14:28.23kenlyric|homehttp://www.wowhead.com/?spells=9.185#00mz
14:28.42kenlyric|homegolden fish sticks and warp burger are still yellow for me.
14:28.57vid`http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/758/758367/unreal-tournament-2007-tba-20070125113304397.jpg
14:28.57vid`damn
14:29.01vid`actual ingame shot of ut2003
14:29.03vid`er
14:29.04vid`207
14:29.08vid`2007 jesus!
14:29.20xyu`is there any way for alliance to get crunchy serpent recipe ? :(
14:29.35kenlyric|homecross faction AH?
14:30.11xyu`its a quest reward
14:30.12Fisker-nahuh vid`
14:30.13xyu`BoP
14:30.14Fisker-It's UT3 now
14:30.15Fisker-:P
14:30.38kenlyric|homeewww, is it coming out on a real computer?
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14:36.57DrZootgears of war on xbox used the ut2007 engine, that was awesome looking as well
14:37.08DrZoots/xbox/sbox 360
14:37.16DrZootmeh, i cant type
14:37.20AmadeoGames aren't allowed to get better looking
14:37.25AmadeoI won't be able to run them!
14:37.40DrZootI heard some talk that WoW was getting a graphical upgrade at some stage
14:37.50AmadeoI imagine it will eventually
14:38.11AmadeoTBC has a lot more going on as far as graphics go, but I don't think they changed the engine at all
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15:01.17Fisker-omg DrZoot UE3
15:01.21Fisker-and it's UT3 now!1
15:01.23Fisker-damnit
15:01.45DrZootwhats happening now?
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15:09.36Fisker-DrZoot i'm just nitpicking on people's mistakes :P
15:09.46Fisker-It's liek "Unreal Engine 3" and "Unreal Tournament 3"
15:09.47Fisker-:o
15:10.12DrZootOh Ok, I didnt know they had changed the name of UT
15:10.53DrZootSuppose it makes more sense, that way it isnt tied to a year
15:12.06Fisker-Heh then they can push it back to 2008!
15:12.06Fisker-:P
15:15.47CIA-1703neuron * r26282 10nQuestLog/ (core.lua events.lua formatQuests.lua): nQuestLog : Fixing quest status failed bug
15:15.52Mikmalawl
15:15.59_neuron_it helps to use the api correctly
15:16.57Mikma_neuron_: good morning
15:17.01_neuron_hey ;)
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15:18.14_neuron_Mikma, btw realized you can rightclick on a zone to add/remove quests yet? :p
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15:28.42ravagernlnqeustlog, what does it do?
15:30.06Fisker-It's kinda in the name
15:32.29paranoidiuhh, anyone know what event is fired when player is put as ghost in graveyard .. atleast PLAYER_DEAD isn't it ;P
15:33.02ravagernlyeah, but how does it look :P
15:34.35Fisker-Can't be described
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15:38.36Mikma_neuron_: yes! which is a feature i absolutely love
15:41.10ravagernltrying out neuron :P
15:41.19ravagernlnquestlog :P
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15:43.56legineHello :)
15:44.44legineI would like to know something about the WoW Ace adonn. Anyone here that could help?
15:45.16NickenyfikenAce is not a addon
15:45.37legineYea it is an embeded libary...
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15:46.43Nickenyfikenyes...
15:46.50NickenyfikenSo what do you wan't to know?
15:47.17legineDoes an Addon work without the Ace2 Libraries?
15:47.37legineI mean one that is written with Ace2
15:47.44legineor better ontop
15:48.45NickenyfikenNo, it needs all libraries used loaded somehow
15:48.46legineOr do I need to install Ace2 in order to benifit from the features of the Ace2 Library?
15:49.09NickenyfikenNo, the Author of and addon should embedd all used libraries in the addon
15:49.18legineOhh okey.
15:49.42Nickenyfikenusually in a MyAddon\Libs\
15:50.10legineAnd if I have 2 addons useing Ace will they load the same stuff once or any Addon carries its own Ace2 Libary with it around
15:50.13legineOhh kk
15:52.07NickenyfikenIf two or more addons use the same library it will be loaded into memory only once.
15:53.13legineSo each version of ace2 is compatible with another ersion of ace2 right?
15:53.27legine*version
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15:54.11NickenyfikenWell, if two addons use different versions of the same library both versions will be loaded
15:55.06legineOkey. how do they see the difference between the versions if the libary comes from a checkout of svn?
15:55.38legineI mean how do they know that 2 versions are difference
15:56.56NickenyfikenThey are still the same version but they may have different revisions
15:57.08Nickenyfikensomeone poke on me if im wrong :-P
15:57.38legineI am confused.
15:57.55legineso on svn are only revisions?
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15:58.25ravagernllegine: there is a method called "loading stub"
15:58.55leginewhat does it do?
15:59.38NickenyfikenFor example AceLocale-2.2 is not the same version as AceLocale-2.1. But one addone may have a old revision of v2.2 and another addon have a newer revision of v2.2. They should be compatible but are still different revisions
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15:59.53CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r26283 10EnchantList/localization.lua:
15:59.53CIA-17EnchantList:
15:59.53CIA-17- updated deDE translation including removal of the duplicate deDE section
16:02.10legineOkay. thx Nickenyfiken :), the only source to get Ace is SVN correct?
16:02.48renchaphttp://files.wowace.com/
16:03.13renchapupdated every 20 minutes from svn
16:03.38renchapthere is also some tool (macaceupdater, wowaceupdater, ...) to install/update ace addons
16:03.44renchaps/tool/tools
16:04.18CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r26284 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Skill/Spell/Item description text changed to white in tooltip.
16:04.27leginethe tool is very uninteresting to me since I am on Linux :)
16:04.36_neuron_there are linux ones too legine ;)
16:04.42legineoO
16:04.49ravagernlwow, nquestlog is awesome, ace2 monkeyquest
16:04.51leginekk I take a look :)
16:04.51_neuron_http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3341.0 this one I got linked last night for example
16:04.54_neuron_thanks ravagernl :)
16:05.04_neuron_it's in very heavy development as well ;)
16:05.13Nickenyfikenlegine: if you are writing your own addon all libs should be set as externals on the SVN
16:05.32Nickenyfikenwell QuestsFu has that already or?
16:05.38ravagernlYeah i see that _neuron_ but it rocks :P
16:05.49_neuron_:)
16:06.16_neuron_and without bugreports things will not get fixed btw :P
16:07.41CIA-1703gamefaq * r26285 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
16:07.41CIA-17Babble-2.2:
16:07.41CIA-17- Updated deDE Boss Local
16:08.27legineI am thinking to write extend an addon since I am short on some functions / havent found anything satisfactory yet.
16:08.49Industrialgroll: no im not swedish :P dutch
16:09.09ravagernlswe?
16:09.19ravagernl:P
16:09.20leginethx for the tipp Nickenyfiken :)
16:12.08_neuron_Thrae, ping
16:13.47EvilGrin|Winckknight, how does VersionChecker work? I can't seem to get it to report anything..
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16:15.28CIA-1703zuno * r26286 10UnitActionBars/ (61 files in 9 dirs):
16:15.28CIA-17UnitActionBars: initial commit
16:15.28CIA-17- this add-on provides basic click-casting support as well as unit-specific action bars.
16:18.20CIA-1703gamefaq * r26287 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLangButton.lua PlayerNames.lua):
16:18.20CIA-17Prat: - Updated PlayerNames Module Translation
16:18.21CIA-17- Added deDE Translation to ChatLangButton Module
16:27.45Mikma_neuron_: what's the goto now?
16:27.56_neuron_Mikma, "goto" quest status you mean?
16:28.00Mikmayeap
16:28.06_neuron_it's (hopefully) only for quests where you only get go to X
16:28.13_neuron_(ie doesn't have quest objectives, just deliver this to this person)
16:28.24Mikmawell ok, seems like it :)
16:29.36ravagernlwow thats really cool _neuron_, That bugs me also a lot
16:29.42_neuron_dunno how well that'll work out in practice though :P
16:30.01Mikmawell all my quests have (goto)
16:30.08Mikmathen i checked them out and they are all "find this mofo"
16:30.09_neuron_seriously? :P
16:30.15_neuron_yeah :P
16:30.16ravagernlCan we have an option to colour the border?
16:30.18_neuron_good :P
16:30.23ravagernlI like to have it black :)
16:30.25_neuron_ravagernl, sure, on the todo now
16:30.37_neuron_the todo is quite long atm though :P
16:30.50ravagernlyeah, just finish what has priority
16:31.01_neuron_nha I'll finish whatever I find it interesting to code :P
16:31.20_neuron_do you guys think a scrollable window will work in practice though?
16:31.24Grinehaste, you around+
16:31.38hasteGrine: yes
16:31.39_neuron_ie you set a max height, and use middle mouse button to scroll the window up and down once you reach that height (kinda like topscorefu does)
16:31.52Grineis there a working version of oApplication atm?
16:32.17hastenot really 'working'
16:32.19ravagernlhemlock can do the same i think
16:32.25ravagernlright?
16:32.39Grineaka? haste
16:32.43hastemore usable, but with some annoying bugs
16:33.07Grinelike what?
16:33.54art3mishrm that WUU is pretty rad
16:35.13Industrialrapid application developement?
16:35.17Industrialoh wait, nvm
16:35.26art3mislegin: you can use the WUU updater btw, it's all in python, and last time i checked osx and linux like python ;P
16:35.32hasteGrine: like the box not appearing where it should, and never going away at times
16:37.02Grineah
16:37.25Nickenyfikenhmm there is no Babble-Professions right? :-)
16:37.42Nickenyfikenor are they in Spell?
16:37.45hasteravagernl: no, my 'hemlock' is Atropine, which is something completly different
16:46.37CIA-1703zuno * r26288 10UnitActionBars/ (9 files):
16:46.37CIA-17UnitActionBars:
16:46.37CIA-17- changed timers to use Metrognome-2.0
16:46.37CIA-17- changed default for action buttons to hidden.
16:46.37CIA-17- disabled click-cast chaining.
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16:47.34AmadeoI desperately need a new keyboard
16:47.51AmadeoName me your favorites!
16:47.51IndustrialI cant find the onebag binding in the binding menu
16:47.52Industrial:|
16:48.03Industrialanyone have this? lol
16:48.19Industrialoh wait its the normal opena all bags
16:48.42ravagernlLOL
16:49.50Nickenyfikenhaha
16:52.04_neuron_ravagernl, /script nQuestLogFrame:SetBackdropBorderColor(0.3,0.3,0.3,1) :p
16:52.17ravagernl:o
16:52.33_neuron_oh nvm, that'll only work until the first refresh :P
16:52.35ravagernlId rather make that 0,0,0,1 :P
16:52.43_neuron_seriously? /me thought that was a bit too dark :P
16:52.52ravagernlNo my ui is dark :P
16:52.57_neuron_hehe, kk ;)
16:52.59CIA-1703derkyle * r26289 10ItemSync/ (13 files in 4 dirs):
16:52.59CIA-17ItemSync:
16:52.59CIA-17- Added: Toggle checkbox to display invalids.
16:52.59CIA-17- Update: Cleaned up the options checks to make it more efficient.
16:52.59CIA-17- Update: Cleaned up the filtering option to make it more efficient.
16:53.00CIA-17- Fixed: Option 'Hide all items' in the options panel. Should now work as intended.
16:53.17Grineitemsyc deuced now?
16:53.28ravagernltinytip style _neuron_ :)
16:53.45CIA-1703zuno * r26290 10UnitActionBars/:
16:53.45CIA-17UnitActionBars:
16:53.45CIA-17- Updated externals
16:54.49ravagernlbah the border resets when I modigy the panel
16:54.55ravagernlmodify*
16:54.57_neuron_I know :P
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16:55.04_neuron_making a setting for it now though :p
16:55.39Mikmai gotta test that UnitActionBars
16:56.02ravagernlits like groupbuttons mikma
16:56.36ravagernl_neuron_ Can you change the panel's bg to chatframe one instead of ui-tooltip one?
16:56.46art3miswith click goup buttons is almost silly ;P
16:56.50art3miserr clique
16:56.57art3misand clickcast
16:57.03_neuron_ravagernl, I'm gonna make  it a color selector thing instead of the current background
16:57.11ravagernlcool
16:57.12_neuron_so you can pick a color for it the same way you would your chatframes
16:57.43Grineitemsyc deuced now?
16:57.47art3misooo a new quest tracker log thing?
16:58.13_neuron_yes art3mis
16:58.22art3misneato
16:58.26art3misi like those ;P
16:58.48art3misquestfu is starting to make my eyes hurt and i dont wanna muck with the fonts ;)
16:58.57art3miscuz itll change the scale
16:59.03art3misand the scale is fine heh
16:59.07_neuron_hehe
16:59.15_neuron_well give it a try, early development though ;)
16:59.26art3miswhich is it?
16:59.31ravagernlnqeustlog
16:59.33_neuron_nQuestLog
16:59.40art3misi wasnt paying that much attention to the scroll heh just the bottom aprt ;P
16:59.44ravagernlIt looks like monkeyquest :D
17:00.06Mikmadoesn't!
17:00.13Mikmathat's a complete lie
17:00.18art3misoh i dont leech externals
17:00.20Mikmait looks like nQuestLog :D
17:00.23_neuron_hehe
17:00.24art3misany wierd support libs?
17:00.30_neuron_art3mis, not really
17:00.31Mikmai like the look of it
17:00.35_neuron_if you use questfu already you should be alright ;)
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17:00.44art3misgroovy lets have a looksee ;P
17:01.29CIA-1703zuno * r26291 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:01.29CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:01.29CIA-17- Updated Version and Release date to use SVN tags
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17:04.13_neuron_argh... why do I always always always write rbg instead of rgb
17:04.17_neuron_it always confuses the heck out of me
17:05.38Feldiadoes anyone know of a place that has complete herb maps of each zone
17:05.46CIA-1703neuron * r26292 10nQuestLog/ (core.lua options.lua): nQuestLog : Border coloring
17:06.16_neuron_background coming in a few minutes
17:08.42CIA-1703derkyle * r26293 10ItemSync/locals/gr.lua:
17:08.42CIA-17ItemSync:
17:08.42CIA-17- Update: Minor fix to german localization for 'Thrown' by (Maischter)
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17:15.47art3misthats rather nice
17:16.04art3misalthough the left click default hide is a tad annoying ;P
17:16.52art3misleft click should only work as a extend/colapse or a zone title ;P
17:17.01art3miss/or/of/g
17:17.33art3misother tha that nice
17:18.27AmadeoAnyone know if this keyboard is decent? http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=043#
17:18.47AmadeoI'm not really a big natural fan though
17:18.52AmadeoWell, not of keyboards anyway ;)
17:19.06_neuron_didn't work out, gave up after a while (and I did try it for quite a long time too)
17:19.06art3misicant stand broken up keyboards
17:19.18AmadeoMy problem isn't getting used to it, it's going from a natural to a normal one and back again
17:19.23art3missaitek has nice gaming keyboards if tahts what yer looking at
17:19.24AmadeoI can't switch
17:19.28_neuron_art3mis, you can change that in settings, considering making it default (the hide thing)
17:19.33_neuron_actually I think I will make it default
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17:19.44_neuron_anyone know what backdrop the Chatframes have? :P
17:19.49Amadeoart3mis: They're good for normal typing too?
17:19.54art3misheh neu: the default habit of most people is to left click the frame todrag move it ;P
17:20.00art3misyeah
17:20.07CIA-1703zuno * r26294 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:20.07CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:20.08CIA-17- Revision and date substitution
17:20.08art3misrememebr those slim compaq keyboards a few years back?
17:20.19art3misthe ones that didnt click and had thin keys
17:20.21AmadeoYeah, I think so
17:20.27AmadeoI remember the more current Logitech UltraX
17:20.28art3misalmost exactly like that
17:20.31AmadeoI see
17:20.37art3misand it's lighted
17:20.45Amadeohm, lights = expensive
17:20.45art3miswell the one i have anyways
17:20.48art3misnope
17:21.04art3miskeyboard +9button(2 shift sets) keypad was like 40 bucks
17:21.13Amadeonot too bad
17:21.20AmadeoI have a gift cert to best buy, so...
17:21.34Amadeoit doesn't have a USB port does it?
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17:21.49art3mishttp://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Saitek-Eclipse-II-Keyboard-PK02AU/sem/rpsm/oid/161880/catOid/-12961/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
17:22.20art3misthat same one is at bestbuy
17:22.28Amadeohmm
17:22.31art3misonly diff between it and mine is mines the gaming version
17:22.51art3misthe angle tabs that raise the back of the keyboard dont suck either
17:22.58Amadeo$70, looks like you're paying for the lights :P
17:23.05art3misit actually sets at a decent height unlike evermy ms product
17:23.17art3misheh the gamer one i got on say for 39.95
17:23.54Amadeo$40 isn't bad, but it's hard for me to justify $70 unless it's a bad ass keyboard :)
17:24.12art3mishttp://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/pcgake1.html
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17:24.16art3misthats the one i have
17:24.32AmadeoYeah, I think I remember that one
17:24.36art3misthe hotkeys rock for wow ;P
17:24.53art3misspecially with the 18 buttons of extras from the mobe A/B
17:25.08art3mishave movement and pain mf and mb on there ;P
17:25.13art3misas my default set
17:25.29art3misB-top3 is ve vt and my trinket ;P
17:25.38AmadeoI have an old keyboard behind me that's my favorite ever, but a couple keys don't work right
17:25.42Amadeoif I could fix it, I'd just use that
17:25.52Amadeoit's mechanical :D
17:25.52art3misi ran out of those slim compaq ones ;P
17:26.12AmadeoKeyboard I'm on now is horrible
17:26.38art3misthe thing that i like best about this is that the keys are semi thin
17:26.56art3misso its easier for me to type since i'm used o laptop keyboards
17:27.30art3misand they arent odd sizes like the ms keyboards
17:27.30AmadeoI'm unsure if I'd like it or not, never had a laptop
17:27.30art3misgo check it out
17:27.37art3misthe oens that cc and bestbuy have are the same style of keyboard
17:27.49art3misjust with a copuple of extra butons and no buttonpad
17:28.35CIA-1703zuno * r26295 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:28.35CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:28.35CIA-17- Hard-values for revision, removed release date
17:29.44art3mishttp://reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Optical_Desktop_with_Fingerprint_Reader/4505-3134_7-31139861.html thats my work keyboard
17:29.58art3misonly thing i dont like about it is it doesnt slope right
17:30.02kenlyric|homeI have an IBM ps/2 keyboard.
17:30.05kenlyric|homeThat thing is a rock.
17:30.17Amadeobrb, gonna give this old keyboard one last shot :)
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17:31.39SMutteris there a working fubar
17:32.32chutwigwhat's wrong with the one in svn now
17:32.42Fisker-hoho
17:32.45SMutteri dont know
17:32.45Fisker-ora must be bugged
17:32.56SMutteri have only used titans
17:32.58Fisker-"Water elemental has joined your group"
17:33.13chutwigthe current svn version of fubar is working fine for me
17:33.17SMuttermaybe im doing something wrong
17:34.06SMutterdo i need any pther files
17:35.22chutwigi don't know, what problem are you having, exactl
17:35.55SMutternothing is loading
17:36.02SMutterlet me look for an erroe
17:36.04SMuttererror
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17:38.33Leaf_ArchimondeAnyone knows how to output multiline text easy way?
17:40.09KarlThePaganckknight, hey - for the waypointing stuff I'm going to fire a single arrival event (corresponding with the down-arrow animation) Cartographer-Notes-Waypoint,zone,x,y
17:40.31KarlThePaganLeaf_Archimonde, using ace?
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17:41.44SMutteri get an error  page when i clickon svn link
17:42.01FeldiaAntiarc|Work: someone beat you to the punch
17:42.01Feldiahttp://wowace.com/wiki/EnchantList
17:42.03Leaf_Archimondeno, API. I checked other add-ons, seems EditBox is the best solution
17:42.14Feldiaunless that's you!
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17:44.53kenlyric|homeoh boy, a shaman talent point!
17:44.58kenlyric|homenever had one of those before.
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17:46.14SMutterMessage: ..\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua line 289:
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17:46.17grolli guess the mobhealth on the files dir is really mobhealth3?
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17:47.08SMutterAce2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:85: error()
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17:49.31FeldiaI remmeber someone mentioning that I can create a SVN folder in any mod directory and it would allow me to keep a modified (working) version of that mod safe from the autoupdater
17:49.35Feldiais that correct?
17:49.58ThraeFeldia: Yep.
17:50.04Feldiaand that's exactly what I'd have to do?
17:50.06|Kev|for wau, yes
17:50.06Feldiajust make the folder
17:50.09Feldiadrag and drop everything
17:50.13Feldiaand the mod will work ingame? and be safe?
17:50.20|Kev|I don't know about the java one, and definitely not mau
17:50.26CIA-1703zuno * r26297 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:50.26CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:50.26CIA-17- Date-based revision
17:50.28Feldiayea I'm talking about wau
17:50.29ThraeFeldia: Need TortoiseSVN + WAU
17:50.49Feldiawhat would I need tortoise for
17:50.51ThraeFeldia: WAU needs to detect the SVN files
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17:51.35ThraeYou just do "SVN Checkout" into an empty folder with the addon's name from "http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AddonName"
17:51.49ThraeThen you can select the revision to revert to.
17:52.20Feldiaso just creating that svn folder won't keep it safe?
17:52.37ThraeFeldia: That's HOW you create a SVN folder.
17:52.50Feldiaoh
17:53.08Feldiawhen I said that, I meant just create a folder with the name "SVN" :P
17:53.23ThraeFeldia: Nope. Follow my directions.
17:54.36art3misfeldia: you can always just make one -stable and one -beta ;)
17:54.53FeldiaI'm not exactly sure whaty ou guys are saying :/ I don't write mods
17:55.01Feldiajust there's a small change I want to make to this mod, and keep it safe from the WAU
17:55.13art3misoh on your side?
17:55.17Feldiayes
17:55.29CIA-1703zuno * r26298 10UnitActionBars/uab.lpr:
17:55.29CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:55.29CIA-17- Removed uab.lpr (superfluous file)
17:55.31art3misjust dont tick it in the wau
17:55.41art3misnot ticked not leeched
17:55.50Feldiaheh, when I have like 40+ mods that I update regularly
17:55.58art3misso i do to
17:55.58Feldiaand I typically hit "update all"
17:56.03FeldiaI'm bound to forget :/
17:56.14art3miseither you take that extra little step and remember or suffer the consequence ;P
17:56.34art3misyou can reame thefolder if you want though
17:56.37kenlyric|homedoesn't "skip svn working copy" do something?
17:56.45art3misdepending on the mod it might be fine with that
17:56.51Feldiayea I was just thinking that
17:56.57art3misthats an option?
17:57.51CIA-1703zuno * r26299 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
17:57.51CIA-17UnitActionBars:
17:57.51CIA-17- Last revision format change for a while.
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17:59.01Feldiayea it doesn't like being renamed
17:59.21chutwigis there a to-do list addon in here somewhere?  i'm searching through and haven't found anything
18:00.03Feldia<PROTECTED>
18:00.04Feldia<PROTECTED>
18:00.07Feldiathat's what I was looking for :P
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18:00.43grollhmm question.. is it possible to se what weapon if i for instance am dualwielding did what damage? it aint possible at all right? it's all just damage
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18:04.21CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r26300 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (. modules/TrainerNotes.lua):
18:04.21CIA-17FuBar_TrainerFu:
18:04.21CIA-17- Added class localization with Babble-Class
18:04.21CIA-17- More localization is needed for note auto filter to work on localized clients
18:04.38art3mismeh i should go to this job
18:05.02art3misbut somehow i just dont feel in the mood to test and punch 75+ cables into a panel
18:05.39art3misnot to mention setup a sonicwall to properly loadbalance the bw
18:06.13art3misgroll you can guess
18:06.28art3misjust a bit of math would tell you which is wich sorta
18:06.35art3misunless they're the same speed
18:06.43art3misthen yer kinna screwed ;P
18:07.12art3misand special moves, crits, parrys and dodges might mess that up too
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18:08.01grollart3mis heh well the thing is the shammy community is kinda trying to figure somethign out about wf and we kinda need to know what weapon made what wf :P
18:09.10art3mishttp://pics.obra.se/11morbidbastid.jpg
18:09.32Feldiaanyone know of an acemod that allows you to make macros longer than 255 characters
18:10.01art3misyeah all you really can do is run timers for it. based on weapon speeds and just have it watch for parry dodge miss block damage
18:10.12grollokies
18:10.14art3misand keep track of which weapons turn it is
18:10.22art3misoh
18:10.23Feldiaor you could just not have 2 weapons equipped....?
18:10.24art3misthe other way
18:10.30art3miswould be enchants
18:10.38grollnope need both equipped :P
18:10.44art3misget those stones that add fire or something
18:10.44Feldiathen change the damage range on them
18:10.48Feldiaput a gray dagger in your offhand
18:10.55Feldiaand have an epic mainhand
18:10.57art3misthat way when one hits itll proc the fire
18:11.11CIA-1703takadi * r26301 10Henge/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Henge: Some changes for menu buttons, various fixes, etc.
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18:11.54grollFeldia good idea :D
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18:13.39IndustrialIs there a macro to get your pet to come back to you or attack?
18:13.51IndustrialWould mean i no longer need a pet bar
18:14.30Caimanany ora2 devs online atm ?
18:14.46SMutterany working fubar
18:19.23SMutterany 1
18:21.16SMutterty
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18:23.53SMutteri take it fubars is harder to use then titans
18:24.16ThraeOne of the goals of FuBar was to be easier to develop for then Titan.
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18:24.30KarlThePaganSMutter, lol if you say so
18:24.31SMutteroh
18:24.42SMutterwell titans work for me
18:24.44KarlThePagani gave up writing a titan plugin... too tedious
18:24.47SMutterfubar ll errors
18:25.01SMutterit dont evenload
18:25.22KarlThePaganace.pastey.net show us your errors
18:25.25SMutterevery 1 says its better
18:26.11hastehttp://hastey.pastey.net/5565-1r8a << for whoever wants to play with it (SpecialEvents-Aura related)
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18:27.32Caimanhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/317 this is the ticket i've opened for oRA2 bug
18:28.09ravagernlindustrial:
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18:28.42ravagernl<PROTECTED>
18:29.47SMutterok errors up
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18:31.56ruinnahey all, i've been scouting wowinterface and the wiki for functional ace'd bulk mail addons.. any suggestions? what happened to gmail?
18:32.41ravagernlctmod wanted its name changed
18:32.56ravagernlYou can check out postal, tho I dont think it has the bulk mail
18:33.11ruinnactmod what? was the code ripped?
18:33.40kenlyric|homepostal does have bulkmail, it works just a little different.
18:33.48ThraePostal doesn't have the power of BulkMail, but the two go together nicely. There's also Tekkub's ExpressMail.
18:34.44CIA-1703kergoth * r26302 10kEnergy/kEnergy.toc: kEnergy: not LoD... bad kergoth, bad.
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18:35.30CIA-1703kergoth * r26303 10kEnergy/RelNotes.txt: kEnergy: update RelNotes
18:35.59CIA-1703kergoth 070.81 * r26304 10kEnergy/: kEnergy: Tag version 0.81.
18:35.59ruinnaare any of these in SVN?
18:36.21ruinnai adore wowaceupdater...
18:36.33kergothpostal is sitting in svn, yes. crazy idea.. why not check?
18:36.38Thraeruinna: Postal and BulkMail are, ExpressMail can be found on Tekkub's SVN
18:36.41Thrae~Tekkub
18:36.43purltekkub is probably a person with great breasts. if female, they are known as "boobs". if male, "manbreasts". Sex unknown.
18:36.59Tekkubsomeone fix that bullshit
18:37.03ThraeHaha
18:37.03TekkubI'm sick of it
18:37.05ruinnaThrae: ty ty :)
18:38.44Thraepurl, no tekkub is The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new "Ace Lite", Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
18:38.46purlThrae: okay
18:38.51Thrae~tekkub
18:38.53purlwell, tekkub is The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new "Ace Lite", Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
18:39.15cladhairei'm not sure i'm not offended by calling Dongle Ace-Lite
18:39.30cladhaireheh, thats not really what it is at all =)
18:39.56Thraepurl, no tekkub is The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new lighter, integrated library solution, Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
18:39.57purlThrae: okay
18:40.03ravagernlwell clad then what would you call it :P
18:40.07cladhairelol
18:40.10Thrae~dongle
18:40.12purlhmm... dongle is a pain in the arse
18:40.19cladhaireHAHAHAHAHA
18:40.26Thrae~cladhaire
18:40.28purlsomebody said cladhaire was the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons.  He is also a core developer of the Ace project. People in #wowace also know him as 'Mr. Lightningfingers.'  To find cladhaire, one should look on wowinterface, as he no longer frequents the wowace channel or forum.
18:40.38Barbanuswho the fuck fucked with all of the purl stuff :/
18:41.01SMuttercan any help me with the fubar
18:41.15Barbanuscladhaire, aparantly you aren't here :P
18:41.23ravagernl~fubar
18:41.25purlfubar is f*cked up beyond any recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included)
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18:41.50SMutterok so its not just me
18:42.04ravagernllol, whats the problem?
18:42.14ravagernlpurl is just acting weirdly XD
18:42.16SMutteriit dont load
18:42.21cladhaire.. how is purl acting weird?
18:42.22ravagernlany errors?
18:42.26SMutteri posted errors
18:42.33Tainpurl touched me inappropriately
18:42.41SMutter04http://ace.pastey.net01
18:42.48ravagernl~purl
18:42.49purlfrom memory, purl is the embodiment of EVIL!
18:44.00ravagernlprul is evil
18:44.06ravagernlprul is evil * :P
18:44.13ravagernlomg, damn typo
18:44.17ravagernlpurl is evil
18:44.23ravagernl~purl
18:44.24purlpurl is, like, the embodiment of EVIL!
18:45.14Thraepurl, no dongle is An integrated library w/ stub where no revisions are suppose to be made upon a release version. The library's goal is to provide a design as lightweight as possible with functionality that all authors would use in a typical addon, without forcing many conventions.
18:45.15purlokay, Thrae
18:45.32cladhairemeh, i'll play with it later =)
18:45.56ravagernlpurl, no purl is evil
18:45.58purlravagernl: okay
18:46.01ravagernlLOL
18:46.04ravagernl~purl
18:46.06purlsomebody said purl was evil
18:46.11ravagernlXD
18:46.39Thrae~ace
18:46.40purli guess ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/
18:46.45Thrae~ace2
18:46.46purlrumour has it, ace2 is twice as superior to you than ace 1!
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18:46.59Thrae~tinytip
18:47.49ravagernlpurl, ravagernl is the author of the "Steel" texture which a lot of addons use
18:47.51purlravagernl: okay
18:48.21Thrae~thrae
18:48.22purlsomebody said thrae was Yes, I'm stupid.
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18:48.47Thraepurl, no thrae is awesome.
18:48.49purlThrae: okay
18:49.07Fisker-is not
18:51.08HjalteThrae: Banzailib has been giving me some errors in raids lately, and I think it might have something to do with vitalwatch. I havent got the error message though, I can't reproduce it in a 2-man raid.
18:51.12CartasHi old chaps! Any macro-masters here? :o
18:52.12HjalteKemayo: I love your new quest viever, but do you think you could add EQcompare support for the rewards?
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18:52.34ThraeHjalte: VitalWatch is getting a recode once I finish some module designs, as is a combination PerfectTargets / Banzai library
18:52.58ThraeBoth need to be recoded to get rid of OnUpdate timers now that UNIT_TARGET event exists
18:53.13ThraeMe debugging BanzaiLib makes no sense then
18:53.16HjalteThrae: Looking forward to it :)
18:56.30CIA-1703gagorian * r26305 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):
18:56.30CIA-17DrDamage:
18:56.30CIA-17-Fixed wound poison (I used the old fixed values, in stead of the percentage).
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19:01.45ckknightKarlThePagan: underscores, not dashes, for events
19:02.14KarlThePaganckknight, kk
19:02.35ckknightEvilGrin|Win: if your guildies have some instance of AceComm-2.0 lurking in their files, they'll report back their version
19:02.53ckknightDhraga: *shrug*
19:03.20KarlThePaganckknight, also the chief complaint of my guildmates is they are recieving Cartographer notes even tho they don't have noteshare... so they get all my databases with ? for icons
19:04.07Dhragackknight, okies... it just stops working (the tooltip interaction) but no error regarding it, or anything... I have no clue but I'll see if I can narrow it down to when it happens
19:04.18SMuttercan any 1 help me with  fubar
19:04.22ckknightKarlThePagan: I already fixed that, tell em to either go fuck themselves or update.
19:04.42KarlThePaganckknight, i'll get them updated thx
19:07.14ckknightI'll update Cartographer on the release sites today
19:13.30SMutterCkknight
19:13.43ckknightbusy
19:13.50SMutteroh sorry
19:14.25Nickenyfikenhaha
19:14.41SMuttercan any of you help me with fubar
19:14.58Nickenyfikendon't ask to ask :-P
19:15.22SMutterhuh
19:15.33Industrialask your question to the channel.
19:15.36SMuttersorry im a noob to this
19:15.45Industrialtheres 240 people in here
19:15.47Industrial;)
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19:16.08ThorgardGagorian, which classes are you up to supporting in DrDamage?
19:16.13SMutterit does not load or anything
19:16.23_neuron_anyone know if Acolyte supports destroying soulshards?
19:16.52SMuttertrying to switch from titans  to fubar
19:17.07_neuron_SMutter, the addon "fubar" wont do anything on it's own, you'll need modules
19:17.39SMutteryes i have clock and reagents
19:17.54KarlThePaganSMutter, sorry I missed your message if you put a pastey on ace.pastey.net you should give us the full url so we know which pastey is yours
19:18.08SMutteri posted them already
19:18.17KarlThePaganwhat's the full url? you didn't post the full url
19:18.28SMutterhttp://ace.pastey.net/5573
19:18.33KarlThePaganthx
19:18.35SMutterhttp://ace.pastey.net/5572
19:18.42SMutterhttp://ace.pastey.net/5571
19:18.56SMutterhttp://ace.pastey.net/5570
19:19.05SMutterhttp://ace.pastey.net/5569
19:19.42KarlThePaganwhich one comes first? 5569?
19:19.58_neuron_69 comes first KarlThePagan, you can look at the ID's :P
19:20.00IndustrialKarlThePagan: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,  yes.
19:20.05Nickenyfikenuhm there is a entry in the optionTable witout a name
19:20.06KarlThePaganheh
19:20.06_neuron_ID: 1 in that one ;)
19:20.41Nickenyfikenyou need name = "Name of option"
19:20.45Nickenyfikeni guess
19:21.38KarlThePaganSMutter, try disabling all fubar plugins except fubar and make sure you're using the latest one from wowinterface
19:22.00KarlThePaganor even wowace.com/files
19:22.05KarlThePaganthat one is working for me
19:22.10SMutterthats where i got all the files
19:22.30_neuron_looks like your fubar is considerably older than latest from wowace.com SMutter
19:22.52SMutterok so where should i get it
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19:23.00KarlThePaganok SMutter yea try the wowace.com/files one :(
19:23.13FinI've got two SVN working copies on my machine, one for a branch of an addon, and one for trunk. I updated some stuff in the branch copy, then merged it with the trunk copy; but before I was able to commit the changes, someone else commited something to the remote trunk archive. do I need to update my local trunk and re-merge the branch changes?
19:24.13KarlThePaganyes fin
19:24.38KarlThePaganor update on top of it... it should merge properly
19:24.40KarlThePaganif there are conflicts you can resolve them manually
19:24.43SMutterso try the fubar and disable all fubar addons
19:25.02KarlThePaganyes, it looks like there is a plugin with bad options SMutter
19:26.11kergothlol, i like http://darklegacycomics.com/46.html
19:26.48Mikmawho has deleted SpecialAuras-Breath and why?
19:27.16kergothdoesnt the blizz api provide stuff for that now?
19:27.24FinKarlThePagan: thank you kindly
19:27.39Mikmadon't know, but deleting the addon from acesvn the person also managed to bork Mountme
19:28.40Sarozuhm
19:28.46Sarozdid you drop the FPS on castbars in aguf?
19:28.49Sarozthey are laggy as shit now
19:29.54KarlThePaganworks for me
19:30.02KarlThePaganhehe
19:30.14KarlThePaganwhich rev sar?
19:30.21Sarozjust updated
19:30.56Sarozdont see any changes made, hrm, very odd
19:30.57KarlThePaganhmm lemme check it out
19:34.43KarlThePaganso /waypoint options are almost done
19:35.01KarlThePaganhide/delete, repeat/next
19:35.16ThorgardSaroz, yeah, I noticed that too.
19:35.21Sarozthere is a huge diffirence compared to oCD
19:35.28Sarozin the update rate
19:35.32ThorgardWell, the agUF ones used to be smoother.
19:35.33Sarozsuddenly
19:35.36Sarozindeed
19:37.00PogoTribalThe ag_UF ones still refuse to show up on my rogue, but come up on every other character profile.
19:37.11SMutterok  2 errors  but i  only have fubar loaded
19:37.11packetlssany fubar addon that can give tloc on the bar?
19:37.31ag`uh about wowaceupdater
19:37.37Feldialocation_fu ?
19:37.38ag`where do you set if you want externals or not?
19:37.51|Kev|choose the menu item for install
19:37.57|Kev|then you have both options :)
19:38.21SMutterty u guys  ill g back to titans
19:38.27SMuttersorry to bother u
19:38.45Saroztitans SUCK
19:38.53SMutterbutit works
19:38.58Sarozso does fubar
19:39.10Sarozfor thousands of users :p
19:39.11KarlThePaganSMutter, delete your FuBar.lua in saved variables
19:39.13Mikmastop that already, everything sucks
19:39.21SMutterok  well   not for  me
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19:39.34SMutteri  like ace programs  so i tryed it
19:39.34Feldiacan anyone recommend a quality fishing mod?
19:39.46SMutter1 out off 1000 aint bad
19:40.11ag`|Kev|: thanks
19:40.14KarlThePaganI don't know how many times I had to delete my titan.lua in SV SMutter ... this isn't so bad
19:40.27PogoTribalSMutter's obviously a troll
19:40.34PogoTribalto come in here preaching Titanbar
19:40.57SMutterhonestly i delete tians  to use fubar cause it has more options i need
19:41.13SMutterso get the dick out ya azz and chill
19:41.30PogoTribalwtf
19:41.35PogoTribalListen to what you said.
19:41.40CIA-1703zuno * r26306 10UnitActionBars/ (App.lua UnitActionBars.toc):
19:41.40CIA-17UnitActionBars:
19:41.40CIA-17- Fix for uninitialized activators
19:41.53SMutterread it
19:42.09PogoTribal"ty u guys ill g back to titans,    sorry to bother u ,    butit works,  1 out off 1000 aint bad "
19:42.23SMutteryes
19:42.28SMutteri love ace stuff
19:42.32SMutterbut this 1 not working
19:42.36KarlThePaganyou know how to get customer service to hang up on you huh SMutter?
19:42.36SMutterand ya point
19:42.55SMutteri mean  u r helpful
19:42.56SMutteri agree
19:43.07PogoTribalHe sounds like I do when I'm calling my bank to bitch about overdraft charges.
19:43.13SMutterbut if it cant b fixed  go for what u know right
19:43.15Mikmac'mon
19:43.32Mikmaif someone can't get addon to work that doesn't mean he's a troll
19:43.46ag`hehe
19:43.46SMutteri mean if i cant say the other program name here or some 1 gets offended i wont
19:43.48KarlThePaganSMutter, actually this sounds like an exceedingly simple problem and you're not being very helpful
19:44.10SMutteri mean im not a programmer
19:44.20SMutterso i really dont know what u need to help me
19:44.30PogoTribalYou've had 50 lines of people trying to help you in a problem that simply doesn't exist if you did everything by the book.
19:44.59SMutteri deleted other program and all lua
19:45.03sylvanaar|Kev| Feldia et al : The folder WAU looks for is ".SVN" not just "SVN". Wanted to be sure you knew
19:45.16KarlThePaganSMutter, these solutions don't require programming knowledge, just knowledge of how to restore your WoW addons to a clean state...
19:45.17SMutterand addend fubar  and fubarplugon
19:45.23PogoTribalIt's not like working on a car engine where you can accidentally drop a bolt into a bad spot and the engine blows up.
19:45.26|Kev|sylvanaar: I'd assumed as much
19:45.28ag`1. delete(backup) saved vars 2. delete(backup) all other addons 3. use latest version
19:45.44SMutterok
19:46.12ag`wow addons are pretty much sandboxed so if an addon works for some and not for you, it's probably wrong at your place
19:46.29ag`I know there can be bugs and such
19:46.37ag`but I'd say generally this is the case
19:46.49SMutteri deleted all saved vars
19:46.49PogoTribalAlmost always, yeah.
19:46.52SMutteranything else
19:46.58SMutterb4 i rester wow
19:47.03SMutterrestart
19:47.08Mikmamake sure the addon is in correct location
19:47.12PogoTribalNow you can cry for hours that all your video and icon settings are at default.
19:47.24SMutteri know about that
19:47.28PogoTribalFuck this I'm going back to... Cosmos!
19:47.29ag`and make sure you have the latest version
19:47.37Sarozag`, you made changes to the castbars in ag_uf? they are laggy suddenly
19:47.37SMutterimnot worries  i have a macro to fix all that
19:47.46ag`Saroz: I did nothing
19:48.09ag`Saroz: castbars for OnUpdate frames are laggy in nature
19:48.12ag`and they do not fire eventws
19:48.18ag`but for everyone else
19:48.38ag`works fine here
19:48.55SMutterguys ty for the help
19:49.08SarozThorgard has the same problerm ag
19:49.10SMutterim sorry if im coming of as a jerk
19:49.12Sarozused to work fine
19:49.26ThorgardIt's odd. :/
19:49.39Sarozaye
19:49.46Sarozjust after latest SVN update it's slow
19:49.48ag`Saroz: laggy how?
19:49.58ag`I didn't change naything
19:50.02Sarozthe cast doesnt move slowly
19:50.04SarozI know
19:50.04ag`what does the svn log say?
19:50.08ag`slowly?
19:50.08Saroznothing
19:50.09Sarozno changes
19:50.13ag`you mean choppy?
19:50.14Sarozyea laggy, jagged
19:50.16Sarozya
19:50.26ag`mine moves fine
19:50.34ag`how about no addons enabled?
19:50.35Feldiamoves fine for me as well
19:51.11Sarozag`, havnt tested that
19:51.22Sarozjust noticed it now in an instance
19:51.24Sarozafter SVN update
19:51.40ag`I use OnUpdate to update the cast bars
19:51.40chuckgag`, can I ask what's going on w/ pet frames?
19:51.47ag`so I don't see how it would be choppy
19:51.52ag`chuckg: not much
19:51.54chuckgHow come they can't be attached to the player they belong to anymore?
19:52.52ag`because blizzard changed the way groups worked from 1.x -> 2.x and I haven't done some crappy hack to make them act like they did before
19:54.34chuckgSo it wouldn't be possible to make htem independent elements?
19:54.41chuckgThen just automatically attach?
19:54.52chuckgWith generic positiosn, top/right/bottom/left?
19:55.05ag`there's no other options than the one you can see now
19:55.24ag`you can set which way they grow and how much space you want between them
19:55.43ag`that kinda makes you able to place them however you want
19:55.46SMutterguys i found the problem
19:55.48SMutterty
19:56.12chutwigi noticed the cast bar moves jagged on one computer but not on another
19:56.12chutwigit's weird
19:56.12ag`what was wrong? :)
19:56.23SMuttercritkine din like fubar
19:56.25ag`chutwig: 100% same revision?
19:56.27SMuttercritline
19:56.45chutwigsame revision, i copied the interface directory straight from one computer to the other
19:56.46chuckgBut it won't populate right..
19:56.57chuckgSay if you have a hunter in position 3, the pet goes to position 1.
19:57.07chuckgIsn't that right?
19:57.37ag`I don't think it does
19:57.40ag`I am not sure
19:58.19chuckgThe healers in my guild are having real issue w/ it, as it stands, it's one of the major 'flaws'.
19:58.44chuckgI think I'm going to have to add casting bars to my own version of the oUF layout, aren't I? :)
19:58.50CIA-1703xplosionist * r26307 10AEmotes_DrWho/AEmotes_DrWho.toc: AEmotes_DrWho: update TOC to 20006 for 2.0.6
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19:59.31ag`chuckg: well if there's no castbar in it and you want it to have cast bars I guess so :P
19:59.57CIA-1703ckknight * r26308 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.lua: ChatThrottleLib - added a few locals, made to take advantage of lua 5.1 in a few places, general syntax cleanup.
20:00.17chuckgI guess that was an indirect way of asking if you had plans of adding it to that layout :)
20:00.33snurre-man, karazhan is so hot
20:00.33ag`in a perfect world I'd have done it already
20:00.38ag`but I am kinda slackish
20:00.45CIA-1703ckknight * r26309 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - bumped ChatThrottleLib up to v14
20:00.52ag`Can't be bothered to update that amount of addons
20:00.53xyu`where's the flight trainer?
20:00.56ag`I mean layouts
20:01.08CIA-1703ckknight * r26310 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - added a local
20:01.16xyu`oops wrong chan, but you guys might know :P
20:01.42CIA-1703xplosionist * r26311 10AEmotes_DrWho/AEmotes_DrWho.toc: AEmotes_DrWho: propset end-of-line change to the .toc file, too.
20:02.44CIA-1703ckknight * r26312 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - added a local, removed an unneeded statement
20:03.06chuckgGuess I'd better get SVN access then and get it done for you.
20:03.16chuckg:)
20:03.26ckknight*thumbs up*
20:03.56Feldiacan't imagine that will get any complaints chuckg :P
20:04.12chuckgSo much hastle!
20:04.33xyu`is shattrath where i learn flying?
20:04.40Feldiashadowmoon valley
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20:06.04CIA-1703xplosionist * r26313 10AEmotes_DrWho/AEmotes_DrWho.toc:
20:06.05CIA-17AEmotes_DrWho: grr. Interface doesn't match the game version, it has to
20:06.05CIA-17*exactly* match the magic string, which isn't a clear value. :-/
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20:31.13SMutterguys again i wnt to say ty   this is alot easier
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20:31.42Adirelleckknight: ping
20:31.49ckknightgnip
20:32.01Adirelle;)
20:32.18Adirelleback to my previous subject, interrupted by my wife
20:32.40Adirelleabout old Carto that send localized guild position zone
20:32.59Adirelleyou said you'd prefer people to upgrade than put a hack in
20:33.29Adirellewhat about adding a warning and ignoring old version (instead of throwing out an error and stopping working) ?
20:34.36_neuron_could consider a generic if version of other person > our version message("go upgrade")
20:35.22Adirellesomething like : http://ace.pastey.net/5576 (drycode)
20:36.02_neuron_might get floodish though :P
20:36.22_neuron_oh nvm
20:37.42ckknightoh
20:37.47ckknightyea, I might put in that hak
20:37.48ckknighthack*
20:37.52_neuron_nick highlighting = good :P
20:38.16Adirelleckknight : erf, thought you was paying attention after the ping :)
20:39.09Adirelle_neuron_: a bit spammy maybe, but lazy guidmates won't upgrade unless something annoys them ;)*
20:39.23_neuron_yeah /me likes it :P
20:39.37CIA-1703ckknight * r26314 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - added hack to allow old versions of GuildPositions to not break the new ones
20:39.50Adirelleckknight: eek, do you tested it ? it wa drycode
20:40.27_neuron_no need, there are plenty of people insisting to run current svn that will come here and tell him if it broke :p
20:40.29ckknighta lot of my code is drycoded
20:40.33ckknightyou get good at it eventually
20:40.49ckknightanyways, it's your job to test it ;-)
20:41.56Adirelleckknight: well, I too, but I know I still make of mistakes, mostly due to inattention
20:42.01Adirelle~x fr en inattention
20:43.17Adirelle:)
20:43.38Adirellewell, I generally makes lots of typo
20:44.02Adirellebut quite often, once I fixed them, it works
20:44.15Adirellegoing to test it
20:44.37_neuron_it's so good when I've written a bit of code, and realize one loop using python and {} on both ends (read C) and realize most of that code bit actually wasn't in lua
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20:50.50CIA-1703adirelle * r26315 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer: GuildPositions, line 383 needed a 'then'
20:51.03_neuron_:p
20:52.01Adirelledoes someone know what the good Blizzard setting that prevents channels to be reenabled in chatframe1 ?
20:52.27_neuron_dont think there is one, but my channels have kept enabling themselfes in chatframe1 as well lately
20:52.46_neuron_insanly annoying, I want my channels in chatframe2, not 1
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21:01.44ckknightAdirelle: hehe, whoops
21:02.10Adirelle_neuron_: I think it's another job for Prat ;)
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21:02.29Adirelleckknight: beside that, it works perfectly
21:02.49_neuron_is there any documentation on Cartographer API?
21:02.54ckknighteventually I'll just take out the first chunk
21:02.56ckknightyes, _neuron_
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21:03.35vhaarrFunkeh`: Nice work on SEE.
21:03.41CIA-1703arjuna * r26316 10simpleMinimap/ (modules/skins.lua simpleMinimap.lua simpleMinimap.toc):
21:03.41CIA-17simpleMinimap:
21:03.41CIA-17- compatibility with FuBar and Cartographer "GetMinimapShape()"
21:03.41CIA-17- updated and changed the button math to be in line with Cart/FB (you may need to reset your minimap buttons)
21:03.58CIA-1703arjuna * r26317 10FuBar_jabberFu/jabberFu.lua:
21:03.58CIA-17FuBar_jabberFu :
21:03.58CIA-17- still alpha, but close
21:03.59OvrLrd-Qanybody tell me which Cart addon handles tracking Ungoro Power Crystals?
21:04.36AmadeoI checked out a Logitech G15 in the store today...I was surprised that it felt as nice as it did
21:04.40AmadeoIt's just pricey..
21:04.50AmadeoThe keyboard I'm on now is godly..I just wish it still worked right
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21:05.19AmadeoI think this thing weighs like 6 lbs
21:05.26_neuron_Kemayo, ping
21:05.45RaydenUniwhat keyboard?
21:06.05vhaarr_neuron_: If you can't find the Cartographer API docs, you need a new pair of glasses.
21:06.22Funkeh`thanks vhaarr
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21:07.02vhaarrhttp://wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer#API_Documentation
21:07.06RaydenUniwhat is the logitech G15?
21:07.07_neuron_yeah I found it searching ;)
21:07.08AmadeoRaydenUni: I bought it years ago from a local computer place...it was dirt cheap, and I'm not even sure what the right model is...but the top of the keyboard says BTG Incorporated...bottom says NMB Model RT8256CW+
21:07.24AmadeoIt's a clicky keyboard, but the keys are very stable
21:07.36AmadeoI've used clicky keyboards (Northgate) where the keys wobble all over
21:07.37RaydenUnioh keyboard
21:07.40RaydenUnii thought it was a mouse
21:07.46Amadeooh, no
21:07.47RaydenUniclicky keyboard?
21:07.55AmadeoMechanical I guess, makes a lot of noise :)
21:08.03RaydenUnias opposed to what?
21:08.06RaydenUnilaptop keyboard?
21:08.10OvrLrd-QFor some reason it only tracks the first Power Crystal I looted, and it isn't keeping track of subsequent ones
21:08.11Amadeomembrane
21:08.17RaydenUnioh
21:08.21RaydenUniwhat uses a membrane?
21:08.33Amadeoalmost every keyboard on the market now, I believe
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21:08.51AmadeoThere are probably downsides to these old mechanicals
21:08.59RaydenUnioh
21:09.06RaydenUniunderneath
21:09.12RaydenUninot what the keys are made of
21:09.17vhaarrckknight: Are you maintaining ChatThrottleLib now?
21:09.20Amadeoyeah, under the kes
21:09.22Amadeokeys..
21:09.22RaydenUniit has little springs under each key as opposed to rubber membrane
21:09.29RaydenUniheh
21:09.35ckknightvhaarr: Mikk hasn't done anything in a while, I fixed it up for lua 5.1
21:09.40AmadeoThis is a split spacebar keyboard, one of the buttons is backspace
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21:10.26RaydenUnihttp://www.dal.co.kr/grim/col/pcline/pl200508_17_membrane_keyboard.jpg
21:10.51Amadeohehe
21:11.13OvrLrd-QHaven't seen anything related in the forums so I figured somebody here might know
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21:11.32vhaarrckknight: nice
21:12.03ckknightit's more efficient now
21:12.33OvrLrd-Qdo I need to reinstall gatherer then?
21:14.37Birdemani[FH]request please for aguf: add rampage to the buff for warrior auras! I only get battle shout when i have the self filter on
21:14.45break19*sniff* my RicoMiniMap stopped working
21:16.24neeneeuse evl_Minimap
21:21.02ThraeHmm, gvim truncates the filename to "PerfectAss" when I mouseover the tab in Windows
21:21.08RaydenUniwhat is Shadow Word: Death? is this a talent or spell that doesn't exist anymore?
21:21.21ThraeRaydenUni: Priest spell past Level 60 I think
21:21.27_neuron_new priest spell yeah
21:22.00RaydenUnihttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html
21:22.02RaydenUnii don't see it
21:22.09_neuron_not a talent, a base spell
21:22.17RaydenUnioh
21:22.27break19neenee: does it do the corner shape?
21:22.35ThraeAll classes get new base abilities while leveling up to 70.
21:23.56RaydenUnioh you get at 62 and 70
21:24.09RaydenUniit doesn't do much dmg...
21:24.12RaydenUniless than mind blast
21:24.15RaydenUniless mana cost i guess
21:24.21RaydenUniand instant cast
21:24.58RaydenUniooh
21:25.05RaydenUniSWD would be good for intances to ensure you get ST
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21:26.39OvrLrd-Qoh wait, when opening the crystals it says Opening - No Text, wonder if that's a bug wif blizz or a bug in an addon :(
21:26.42break19neenee: does evl_minimap do the "corner" shape?
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21:27.12ThraeOvrLrd-Q: Blizzy bug, I've noticed it on multiple addons
21:27.59OvrLrd-QMeh, figures
21:28.21RaydenUnihmm
21:28.40RaydenUnishould probably not start doing stratholme and scholomance in an effort to get my devout pieces until i'm a higher level than 53 :D
21:29.18CIA-1703fin * r26318 10Prat/modules/ (17 files):
21:29.18CIA-17Prat: added list of relevant Prat 2.0 categories to uncategorised modules and
21:29.18CIA-17fixed incorrect bits where necessary - all modules should now have the var
21:29.18CIA-17Prat_ModuleName.Categories containing related entries from Prat.Categories
21:29.29CIA-1703zuno * r26319 10UnitActionBars/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
21:29.29CIA-17UnitActionBars:
21:29.29CIA-17- Changed scale to increment by 5% instead of 1%
21:29.29CIA-17- Fixed an issue with actions not working on party pets.
21:30.57OvrLrd-QGood luck finding a group for those RaydenUni
21:31.18RaydenUni:P
21:31.22RaydenUnias a shadow priest too
21:31.32axxoyou don't want those
21:31.35axxototal crap grear
21:31.37RaydenUnii couldn't possibly hit anything that high at my level
21:31.41RaydenUniand i'm not specced for healing
21:31.44RaydenUniwhat else would i get?
21:33.32Finhuh, I never knew about http://wowacereview.wordpress.com/
21:33.32break19neenee: I cant seem to find that addon.. evl_minimap ?
21:33.42Finshame he (or she?) didn't keep it going
21:34.54RaydenUniaxxo what should i get instead?
21:34.54axxoRaydenUni: any other random blues will most likely be better
21:35.19axxoor just go outland do 5quests and have t1 equivalent
21:35.20CIA-1703neuron * r26320 10nQuestLog/core.lua: nQuestLog : Cleanups
21:35.24RaydenUnii don't have Bc
21:35.26RaydenUniand i'm lvl 53
21:35.33axxoso play
21:35.40axxoour shaman is 61 :p
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21:43.59lhunathAnyone know where I can reach EvilElvis?
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21:46.34KarlThePagan~seen evilelvis
21:47.00purli haven't seen 'evilelvis', KarlThePagan
21:47.17lhunathnot on IRC, I guess.
21:47.42paranoidiBartender3 "Integrated Cooldown Count and RedRange", but where is coold countdown option hidden? :)
21:48.03KarlThePaganparanoidi, ah i think the cooldowncount stuff was removed
21:48.12paranoidioh, why?
21:48.13KarlThePaganOmniCC is recommended (check wowinterface.com)
21:48.35KarlThePaganI think because blizzard made it efficient enough to separate the function into another mod and OmniCC offers more support?
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22:04.35Finanyone got a recommendation for a buff display mod?
22:04.43VelkynIs anyone aware of an Ace mod that will function like Necrosis, where the user can set it up so that a "certain bag" is the soul bag, and when they bag is full to have it auto destroy any new soul shards acquired?
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22:05.36_neuron_Velkyn, shardace can do it, but it's a bit screwy :P
22:05.44_neuron_it was atleast, haven't had too much trouble with the latest version
22:06.10lhunathfin: tried elkbuffbar?
22:06.12VelkynAh tasty.... I love'd necrosis but it wasnt worth the mem it was using :(
22:07.56VelkynFin:  What are you looking for the buff-mod to do/change?
22:08.50ZealotOnAStickVelkyn - have you tried eeShards for just shard management?
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22:12.21VelkynZealot:  I have not.  Honestly, I use to download mods and just try them - and then one day (you were one of the ones that helped) I was runnign 128 mib in mods..
22:12.27VelkynSo now I ask first..
22:12.47Silviu-Velkyn SharAce
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22:12.59Silviu-Shardace*
22:13.26VelkynJust to toss another question out there - if I was going to beg the author of a mod (Chrono - in this case) to add something (SS timer) where/how would I go about that?
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22:13.51MikmaNargiddley: yo, i got an idea for you
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22:14.04Mikmaymf
22:14.07MikmaNargiddley: yo, i got an idea for you
22:14.24NargiddleyMikma, shoot
22:14.44Nargiddleynew config close to beta release btw :D
22:14.54Nargiddleyor alpha maybe heh
22:14.56MikmaNargiddley: can you add an option to see the bag-icons in baggins? so i can change the bags in that way
22:15.29Nargiddleyyou mean the actual bag slots ?
22:15.49Mikmathe actual bags on the MainMenuBar :)
22:15.57Nargiddleythats planned, eventually
22:16.01Mikmaoh neat
22:16.15Nargiddleythis finished first! http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8443/newconfigxl4.jpg
22:16.18Mikmai noticed a one issue moment ago
22:16.31Mikmai tried to trade 6x potions with stack of 5 and 1
22:16.44Mikmawouldn't let me to trade the missing 1 potion from the same stack
22:16.49FinVelkyn: basically something that displays my buffs with a decent timer, allows me to choose where buffs are on the screen, and includes any other features I haven't thought of that make it easier to make sure I'm properly buffed all the time and aware of important debuffs :)
22:17.09Nargiddleyshould have always been picking up the 5 if it was compressed
22:17.21Nargiddleythats just how compressing works atm
22:17.25Finlhunath: I have a while ago, if I remember it wasn't quite what I wanted (I'd like something a bit more compact) - but I'll check it out again, thanks for the tip
22:17.25PogoTribalVelkyn: I believe you can add your own skills to the timers.
22:17.49MikmaNargiddley: yeah i was able to actually put the 5 in trade, but then the slot was greyd out and i couldn't trade the 1 left in that slot
22:18.01Nargiddleywhere were you trying to pick it up from ?
22:18.18Mikmafrom Baggins
22:18.27Nargiddleya compressed slot ?
22:18.34VelkynFin: I Use elkbuff, however there are quite a few Ace mods that manage buffs out there, some of which I believe do the "am I missing a buff warning" thing..
22:18.43Nargiddleybefore completing the trade of the 5, or after ?
22:18.49Mikmalike this, open trade for someone, pick up the compressed slot and drag it to trade. then the slot gets greyd out and you can't pick up the last potions from that slot
22:19.01Nargiddleythats exactly how its meant to work
22:19.16Nargiddleyits *always* the stack with the most items
22:19.17VelkynFin:  IF I recall correctly Buffalo had a bunch of options and config stuff to really change it around.
22:19.19Mikmaso you're telling me i need to open 2 trades with baggins to get the items? :)
22:19.33Nargiddleyor dont compress all, its a hack at best
22:19.36PogoTribalErrr sorry, Velkyn: was supposed to be Fin:
22:19.48PogoTribalFin: I use Buffalo, it separates debuffs from buffs.
22:20.25Nargiddleyit has nothing in there to help with using/accessing the items. Its mostly meant for ammo and shards where you dont go picking up lots
22:20.27VelkynPogo:  I checked out the wiki page for Chrono and did not see any mention of adding other "timers/skills" to it
22:20.43MikmaNargiddley: well i got another idea then
22:20.50PogoTribalOn most characters I don't care to see buffs somewhere easily, but I like to quickly glance for debuffs, so I use Buffalo.
22:20.52MikmaNargiddley: "when opening trade do not compress items"
22:20.56FinVelkyn: yeah, there's quite a lot of buff mods around, s'why I asked here to see if anyone had any personal favourites :)
22:21.02PogoTribalVelkyn: It's annoying but someone did mention it in here.
22:21.07Nargiddleycompression isnt changing until the layout gets rewritten
22:21.10FinPogoTribal: I'll give it a go
22:21.22Nargiddleyand then i can hopefully make it work better
22:21.50VelkynPogo:  You know if Chrono has another site, perhaps something with a message board, or?  (You know I didnt check inside the directory, perhaps there is a readme in there with info on how to do it)
22:21.53PogoTribalBuffalo does not have a Fubar plugin though, and the config screen disappears after you move bars, so either use Deucecommander or bear with the /buffalo config  command.
22:22.17PogoTribalVelkyn what skill are you trying to add?
22:22.29VelkynPogo: Soulstone
22:22.52PogoTribalOk Velkyn go to your CHronometer mod directory and go to the Data directory
22:22.58PogoTribalOpen Warlock.lua in notepad
22:23.20VelkynPogo: Should of know some other Warlock had asked for it :)
22:23.22PogoTribalGah, whoever wrote the code for Chronometer is sloppy.
22:23.37VelkynPogo: Eeeek!  I didn't do it :)
22:24.07PogoTribalThis is a nightmare, but lemme see here.
22:24.18Finheh, nice of you to mention that PogoTribal! interesting how FuBar has become so integrated into people's setups...
22:25.01PogoTribalFin: Yeah I made a quick macro just to open buffalo's config and lock/unlock the bars, it's that annoying :)
22:25.29PogoTribalIt won't tell you what buffs you are missing, I don't think, but the ability to separate buffs from debuffs is great.
22:26.36PogoTribalWhat does a square character (like  [] ) denote in these .lua's?
22:26.48PogoTribalIs that just a line break?
22:27.03Saroztable access
22:28.02grolleek bt3 bug :O
22:28.14NightHawkTheSaneI think he means a character that looks like a 'box'.
22:28.20PogoTribalYeah
22:28.24Nargiddleywhere are they ?
22:28.26PogoTribalClose, not brackets.
22:28.40NightHawkTheSanePogoTribal: that's -probably- a nonprinting character that got malformed in whatever editor your using.
22:28.52FinPogoTribal: that's what I do for most addons actually, 10 of my global macro buttons are taken up with single line macros for just opening addon config frames :)
22:29.00PogoTribalSoulstone is 30 minutes correct?
22:29.05NightHawkTheSaneyes pogo
22:29.07PogoTribalThat's...1800 seconds.
22:29.09VelkynYep yep
22:29.47PogoTribalVelkyn: Open the Warlock.lua and try entering this in a line after the "Enslave Demon" line of text
22:29.48PogoTribalself:AddTimer(self.EVENT, BS["Soulstone"],         1800, 1,0,0, { cr="BLUE", a=1 })
22:29.49PogoTribal
22:29.50grollkergoth or Antiarc|Work plz look at http://ace.pastey.net/5580
22:30.03grollgot it when i added the last rank of windfury weapon at lvl 68
22:30.11grolli think it was windfury atleast
22:30.27Mikmaok mages, what do you think about this build? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=R0xVf0fzZZVcGhs0xsVox
22:31.25PogoTribalIf that doesn't work, then we might have to put it into the regular DoT section.
22:31.42VelkynPogo:  Same syntax, just up with the "normal" dots?
22:31.53PogoTribalNo it'd be a different syntax up there
22:32.18Velkynlol - I would know what to use if I knew LUA *sigh*
22:32.24PogoTribalBut you could just copy one of the top lines, like self.SPELL,BS["Banish"] and replace it with Soulstone and change the number to 1800
22:32.51PogoTribalI think that's the approach you want to go with.
22:33.19PogoTribalBTW RogueTimerFu doesn't know the difference between Kidney Shot at level 50 and the lesser Kidney Shots.
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22:33.23VelkynPogo: Okay, so it looks like the "gr= #" is a reference to a grouping, and it looks like (atleast here) thats only affecting color, yes?
22:33.25PogoTribalIt reports 1 second less than it should.
22:33.34PogoTribalYeah I believe so.
22:33.57PogoTribalso if gr=2 then I'm guessing it's going to be red like the damage dots.
22:34.03PogoTribalActually.
22:34.10PogoTribalgr=2 seems to be with the debuffs, not DoTs
22:34.32VelkynBut I could use CR, perhaps, like below and make it whatever color I wanted to?
22:34.50PogoTribalAlso I think that has to do with where it's listed under Chronometer's anchor.
22:34.51VelkynThough it could be grouping also actually affects the order its displayed in...
22:34.59Velkynyep
22:35.33VelkynThe 3 comma seperated numbers after the 1800 (duration)  any idea what those are for?
22:35.49PogoTribalDo you have a warlock? You can just test it out real quick, or at least every 30 minutes lol
22:35.55PogoTribalNo idea.
22:36.06VelkynGotcha - Ah and it looks like "mc" is for mouse click.
22:36.28PogoTribalIf you right click a Chrono bar it disappears.
22:36.44VelkynI think left clicking Immolate specifically casts conflag.
22:37.05PogoTribalMikma: I don't know why anyone would get improved arcane missiles.
22:37.23VelkynPogo: Thanks for the help mate as soon as I can camp out I will test it
22:37.28PogoTribalMmm, I'm not sure mods can do that kind of functionality.
22:37.38PogoTribalAnymore, at least.
22:37.42kergothgroll, i dont maintain barender3, i suggest asking someone with a clue about the code
22:37.46kergothjust started a pally, whats a good buff addon?
22:37.49VelkynYeah - you could well be right there.
22:38.10PogoTribalkergoth: Chronometer might show paladin buffs you have on party members, not sure though.
22:38.58MikmaPogoTribal: there is no interrupt when casting
22:39.16kergothi have chronometer, thats not what i mean.. i mean an addon to either queue the cast of buffs on people that need them, or at least remind me to rebuff myself :P
22:39.21PogoTribalVelkyn: np, hopefully it works hehe
22:39.23kergothmaybe i'll try smartbuff, used to use that long ago
22:39.58PogoTribalHonestly I'd rather just click on people and buff them.
22:40.06PogoTribalIt takes 1.5 x 5 seconds.
22:40.18PogoTribalMikma: Yes... but you actually use AM?
22:40.33MikmaPogoTribal: no i use frostshock mainly
22:41.07kergothapparently you're not paying attention.  i dont need that much automaton, but at the very least i need notifications.  when chronometer has 15 bars up, its not exactly easy to keep track of who needs their buff refreshed
22:41.13PogoTribalWhich is why I would rather get Arcane Subtlety
22:41.18kergothhrm
22:42.08PogoTribalWell, just buff yourself first.
22:42.14PogoTribalWhen you start to run out, rebuff everyone.
22:42.31PogoTribalThat's what I did on my pally.
22:42.52kergothhmm thats a good idea
22:42.58SlackerJerkergoth: I use SmartBuff for other buffs. But on my pally I could not live without PallyPower for pally buffs
22:43.19SlackerJerDoes greater buffs but I think it will do regular ones now as well
22:43.22weabonly problem with that plan is people dying
22:43.31weabbut i usually do it the same way
22:44.01PogoTribalIt's better than screen clutter, IMO
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22:45.06PogoTribalMikma: Improved Blizzard isn't very good unless you're farming a lot.
22:45.30MikmaPogoTribal: well, it's meant for a dude that is leveling a mage atm :)
22:45.42PogoTribalThen tell him to go fire.
22:45.52Mikmai did and he didn't like it
22:46.07PogoTribalThen he shouldn't be a mage :)
22:46.18Mikmawhy is that?
22:46.21PogoTribalScrew crowd control.
22:46.53PogoTribalI dunno, I'm just an elitist fire mage.
22:47.29PogoTribalI like critting fire blast for 1200 at level 58
22:47.51Mikmai leveled my mage on pvp-server with frost and it was fun
22:48.29PogoTribalYeah but you can't 3-shot a sheeped warlock with ice.
22:48.50PogoTribalHonestly I might go elementalist and get rid of arcane entirely.
22:49.12PogoTribalMaybe some kind of Combustion/Shatter build.
22:49.20Mikmai was about to get the arcane power first but then i realized it's not pvp build
22:49.43PogoTribalBut elementalists just don't work well together... it's not easy to combine two types of spells into a good synergy during actual battles.
22:49.55PogoTribalI wouldn't want to improve scorch a mob and then fireball him, that wouldn't make sense.
22:50.17PogoTribalI shake off the idea that ice is PvP.
22:50.30PogoTribalI got Blazing Speed and crits that make god cry.
22:50.48PogoTribalClearcast, Impact, Blast Wave.
22:50.59PogoTribalMolten Fury is also sick.
22:51.14Mikmabut, i'm still talking about frost-build :D
22:51.17PogoTribalI finish off anyone with 20% health with one Fire Blast, unless it's a well geared warrior.
22:51.27PogoTribalOk ok
22:51.31PogoTribalWhat level is your friend.
22:51.36Mikma44
22:51.45PogoTribalOk let me build something for him real quick.
22:51.51PogoTribalAnd see what you think, give me a minute here.
22:51.53Mikmayeah that would be nice
22:52.08_neuron_but I kinda like affliction anyway :P
22:52.59Mikma_neuron_: you should be coding nQuestLog ;)
22:53.04_neuron_I am :P
22:53.07PogoTribalA warlock with an imp. scorch mage is a very efficient way of working.
22:53.20PogoTribalImp. Scorch is nice because DoT damage goes up in real time.
22:53.32_neuron_PogoTribal, got so much +shadow gear though :p
22:53.39PogoTribalMikma: Is your friend on a PvP server?
22:53.46MikmaPogoTribal: negative
22:54.53ckknight_neuron_: Quixote!
22:55.06_neuron_ckknight, I know, using it ;)
22:55.32_neuron_just not entirly sure how to make the api as good as possible
22:55.54lhunathis there an ace addon I can use to build uis off external textures, like discord art can?
22:57.03ZealotOnAStickeePanels and XArt
22:57.12PogoTribalMikma: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0VZZVmG0orxo
22:57.24MikmaPogoTribal: thanks i'll check it out
22:57.37kergoth<3 talented import from wowhead
22:57.39PogoTribalHonestly, Arcane Missiles is almost always a waste of mana.
22:57.47PogoTribalUnless you clearcast.
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22:58.08Mikmatrue that
22:58.13KarlThePaganckknight, I've got code for waypoint-arrival actions - right now just deleting the note and hiding the waypoint
22:58.13PogoTribalArcane Focus is nice because Sheep is an arcane spell.
22:58.20lhunathmeh, eePanels can't change parent of panels, and I can't use Visor2 on its frames either, since they're weird tablexxx frames. Or so devtools says.
22:58.25PogoTribalAnd something resisting sheep can be the difference between life and death.
22:58.26CIA-1703nymbia * r26321 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Red gems aren't orange.
22:58.50ckknightsome notes you don't want to delete
22:58.53lhunathor can I?
22:59.01_neuron_gah, if fire and destro wasn't so insanly mana inefficient I'd have him respec PogoTribal :P
22:59.17PogoTribalMikma: Also as he levels, he can start putting points into Winter's Chill.
22:59.29PogoTribalSo after 5 levels he gets Ice Barrier.
22:59.38_neuron_Ice Barrier owns :P
22:59.53PogoTribalIf he wants, he can get rid of Clearcast entirely and get Winter's Chill.
23:00.09PogoTribalWhich will in turn increase his mana efficiency.
23:00.41PogoTribalSo it's really the difference between a free spell, and improved efficiency overall. With low-HP targets, Clearcast would probably be better. For instances and boss fights, definitely Winter's Chill.
23:01.13PogoTribalAlthough in instances he still would want to use his Clearcasts for Arcane Missiles, for a free and highly reduced threat spell.
23:01.58PogoTribalArcane Meditation really isn't needed unless he's raiding, and since MC means jack all anymore, he won't be doing that for a long time.
23:02.58PogoTribalFrost is increase crit over time, whereas Fire is unpredictable but huge burst damage.
23:03.00Caimanhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/317 bumping oRA2 bug
23:05.32PogoTribalhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0VZVgGzfccRsR
23:05.35PogoTribalThat's my mage's build.
23:07.02mjchmm
23:07.09mjcis there a way to store data cross accounts?
23:07.34mjcsame server
23:07.39mjcI use 3 accounts and want to share data :p
23:07.50paranoidianyone know under what name user created notes are stored in cartographer? Notes/POI does not contain those ..
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23:08.23PogoTribalmjc: You would have to copy saved variables.
23:08.30mjclame
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23:10.56sbu_neuron_: nQuestLog already usable? :p
23:11.31kergothnQuestLog is pretty nice
23:11.47kergothstill probably sticking with monkeyquest{,log} due to the nicer highlighting, but still nice
23:12.44sbuk, sounds good enough *downloading* :p
23:13.04sbuand finally removing atlas*
23:13.18Mikma_neuron_: why do i see (failed) in my tracker? :D i have 0/xx in there and still it's "failed" :D
23:13.26paranoidikergoth: I betcha you know answer to my problem :). Trying to get user created notes from cartographer using IterateNearbyNotes .. but under what name/type those are? Notes is not reqistered and POI does not contain ...
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23:14.41_neuron_Mikma, latest version?
23:14.49Mikma_neuron_: not sure, maybe not
23:14.52Mikmachecking
23:14.54_neuron_Mikma, latest version should only show failed when blizzard's functions return failed now.
23:14.57_neuron_so it should be fairly bulletproof.
23:15.11_neuron_(you can open your blizzard questlog and check if that says (Failed))
23:15.16Mikmawell it updated 3 files
23:15.26_neuron_I was screwing with that earlier today ;)
23:15.41Mikmayou owned me
23:22.19sbuhmmm
23:22.37sbuckknight: WTB public guild notes in cartographer guild positions ;)
23:22.57ckknightjust make a note and share with guild.
23:23.18paranoidickknight: sorry to bug you but I can't figure this one out. How can I iterate user created notes?
23:23.29sbuckknight: noo
23:23.32ckknight:IterateNearbyNotes
23:23.39sbuwrong guild notes
23:23.47ckknightno idea what you're talking about, then
23:24.07sbuguild note as in public note & officer's note
23:24.10ckknightwhen will people realize that I don't read minds
23:24.19ckknightoh
23:24.20ckknightokay
23:24.20paranoidickknight: yes... but what to pass as db
23:24.26ckknightwill do, sbu
23:24.40paranoidiach
23:24.59sbuwe have realnames + professions there, would be nice to see that stuff on the worldmap :)
23:25.02paranoidiit's written in doc, but why nil? Notes would've been more logical choise ;P
23:25.14ckknightdeal with it.
23:25.39ckknightnil means global
23:25.39ckknightit has no name
23:25.43ckknightsbu: I'll add it
23:26.34paranoidickknight: I'll have to, doesn't make it suck any less tho :)
23:27.01sbuckknight: cool, thanks :)
23:37.06CIA-1703rophy * r26322 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc opt_gui_watch.lua):
23:37.07CIA-17SimpleCombatLog:
23:37.07CIA-17- fixed unwanted global.
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23:53.31Finis it possible to conditionally load a file if it's present in an addon's directory?
23:54.34vhaarrSounds like you think Lua is magic.
23:54.38paranoidiI'm 99% sure it's not possible
23:55.02vhaarrIf the addon supports loading from that addons savedvariables, and it has that lua filename in the TOC, then it will work.
23:55.17vhaarrLike MobHealth3 does, IIRC.
23:55.36paranoidiyeah, but it'll proably crash when it's not there .. perhaps create 0 byte dummy file?
23:55.53Finvhaarr: I do!
23:56.26Finvhaarr: but I was thinking of doing a check for the existence of the file and stuff, I just didn't know if Blizzard prevented you from doing local file io stuff or something
23:56.41kergothparanoidi, wow doesnt error if a file in .toc doesnt exist.
23:56.44kergothit just doesnt do anything.
23:56.55paranoidioh? well that's nice
23:57.00kergothFin, thats correct, you cant do file io or anything else thatd get direct communication out of wow
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23:57.16vhaarrYou can see if the SV table is there.
23:57.17paranoidiI was wondering how without extenals addons work, that they need to have different toc
23:57.20vhaarrAnd if it is, do something.
23:57.31kergothparanoidi, thats why you can remove an addon thats currently in use, and /rl, and nothing dies.. because it tries to load the .lua's but sees none of them exist, so nothing gets loaded
23:57.34Finsounds like I can use the .toc file to do what I want
23:57.38vhaarrparanoidi: They OptionalDep on the libs.
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23:58.38Finvhaarr: that's exactly what I was hoping to do, just wasn't sure about loading the file (not everyone will have it :)
23:59.04paranoidivhaarr: uhm, well I now understand how you can throw everything away from addon/libs/ .. but how come optional deps? they're required for sure ...

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