| 00:17.44 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 00:18.01 | josePHPagoda | i thought you could do vm.oom-kill=0 in sysctl, but i guess that's more up to date distros than what my friend is using |
| 00:18.03 | josePHPagoda | :-/ |
| 00:27.48 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: If your machine runs out of physical memory, and an app asks for more, *something* has to die. |
| 00:27.55 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 00:27.58 | fugue88 | oom-killer tries to pick an app with some intelligence. |
| 00:28.01 | josePHPagoda | i think this was an overcommit issue |
| 00:28.08 | fugue88 | Otherwise, whatever asked for the allocation dies. |
| 00:28.13 | fugue88 | Which can appear completely random. |
| 00:28.21 | josePHPagoda | it only happens when running backups |
| 00:28.21 | fugue88 | Not necessarily the memory-gobbling app. |
| 00:28.28 | josePHPagoda | so we've made logging more verbose |
| 00:28.37 | josePHPagoda | the weird thing is that swap never gets used |
| 00:28.45 | josePHPagoda | you would expect swap to be used to some extent |
| 00:28.49 | fugue88 | Why do you suspect oom-killer? |
| 00:29.40 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: ^ |
| 00:29.47 | josePHPagoda | because the logs say that oom-killer killed it |
| 00:29.49 | josePHPagoda | :P |
| 00:30.15 | fugue88 | Well, that's a fairly good indicator... |
| 00:30.19 | fugue88 | :) |
| 00:30.39 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: 32 or 64 bit arch? |
| 00:31.20 | fugue88 | wonders if you get ever get an oom-killer log entry from exhausting a process's virtual memory space |
| 00:33.09 | josePHPagoda | 64bit |
| 00:33.09 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: Also, does the output of "swapon -s" appear sane? Or the output of "free"? |
| 00:33.16 | josePHPagoda | they do |
| 00:33.20 | josePHPagoda | 16GB of swap free |
| 00:33.22 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: Sure, just destroy all of my ideas, okay! |
| 00:33.24 | josePHPagoda | using like 2 M |
| 00:33.25 | josePHPagoda | :P |
| 00:33.35 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: What distro? |
| 00:33.40 | josePHPagoda | proxmox |
| 00:33.43 | josePHPagoda | (it's build on debian) |
| 00:33.45 | fugue88 | Well there you go! |
| 00:33.49 | fugue88 | j/k ;P |
| 00:33.54 | josePHPagoda | but the guy who set it up didn't follow best practice |
| 00:34.00 | josePHPagoda | so i've found all sorts of a broken configs |
| 00:34.11 | josePHPagoda | like he didn't leave any room for lvm snapshots |
| 00:34.13 | josePHPagoda | which was annoying |
| 00:34.27 | fugue88 | k sry cant halp |
| 00:34.44 | josePHPagoda | it's aight |
| 00:35.00 | josePHPagoda | fugue88: so you making it to the conf this year? |
| 00:35.50 | fugue88 | Uh, heheh, oops. |
| 00:36.01 | fugue88 | pleads the "new baby" defense |
| 00:36.22 | fugue88 | checks the conf website |
| 00:36.41 | fugue88 | Oh yeah. Orem. |
| 00:37.30 | fugue88 | josePHPagoda: May 2-4, yeah I might could will be there. |
| 00:38.45 | fugue88 | can't imagine how an Orem location with be popular with anybody (by Condorcet ranking) except those in that valley. |
| 00:40.15 | fugue88 | s/with/would/ |
| 00:46.24 | fugue88 | Wow. Javascript runs through the entire schedule. |
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