IRC log for #utos on 20080716

00:05.49*** join/#utos Heartsbane (n=hearts@166-70-210-98.ip.xmission.com)
00:05.56sontekhugs his openmoko
00:06.05sontekI'm flashing it with ASU right now
00:07.03herlok
00:07.25Heartsbanedoes it actually dial
00:07.29Heartsbanelol
00:08.01DexterTheDragonsontek: I'd like to know how well it works out
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00:08.30sontekthe phone / sms works very well on the image they shipped with
00:08.45sontekbut gprs doesn't work very well
00:08.56sontekthe image i'm flashing with has some wireless/gprs updates
00:09.11sontekBut it works better than I expected
00:09.35DexterTheDragonwhat service provider are you using it on?
00:09.38sontekand it already has a media app, image app, and web browser
00:09.41sontekt-mobile
00:09.49sontekbut it will work with any GSM provider
00:10.01DexterTheDragongosh maybe I'll have to get one
00:10.13DexterTheDragonI was just worried it might still be kinda alpha
00:10.36sonteki'd say it isn't much past alpha
00:10.41sontekthe big problem is its software divide
00:10.44sontekhaving 3 stacks is hard
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00:10.55sontekbut once they get FSO all fixed up, it'll be awesome
00:11.22sonteki'm going to be using ASU because its still running X11 so I have GTK but it has some of the qtopia apps running as well
00:11.25DexterTheDragonwhen do they expext to have FSO done?
00:11.25sontekso its a good mix
00:14.35sontekthere isn't a set deadline, but they've already made great work on ASU
00:14.42sontekand ASU is going to be merged into FSO
00:14.46sontekI'd say within a year
00:16.03sonteki'm working on porting mono, tomboy, and banshee to it
00:16.10sontekso it'll have a nice set of apps running on it
00:18.29herlosontek: ubuntustats.com finally released their code gpl :(
00:19.33DexterTheDragonherlo: you don't like open source code?
00:22.10herloDexterTheDragon: we had written our own, but never finishe dit
00:22.39DexterTheDragonnow you don't have to :)
00:24.27herloDexterTheDragon: lol, I like writing code :)
00:25.37DexterTheDragonwell you could always continue. Try to out do them :)
00:26.53TeneI need to get an openmoko
00:27.03Tenesontek: where'd you get it from?
00:28.13DexterTheDragonsontek: did you get the GSM 850 or 900 variant?
00:29.23TeneI'd like to maintain parrot packages for it.
00:42.49sontekherlo: yeah I heard about that, haven't looked at it yet though
00:43.07sontekTene: I just ordered mine from the openmoko store, I think they are sold out now
00:43.14sontekDexterTheDragon: 850, 900 is for europe
00:43.30DexterTheDragonah
00:44.16sontekThey had problems with the chip so its not quadband
00:44.21sontekbut their next release will be
00:44.24sontekand then there wont be a separation
00:45.57Tenemaybe I should steal sontek's.
00:46.02sontekrofl, I text katie "want to go to sllug tonight?"   she responds  "I dunno.. I only like python"
00:46.49sontekTene: if you want to play with it and get parrot running on it, you can
00:48.05sontektime to head to sllug to learn me some some KVM
00:50.03peno~learn sontek
00:50.27sontekI want to go to sllug but I also want to play with my new toy :(
00:50.29sontekso hard
00:50.38penodo both?
00:51.06sontekYou bring up a good point, sir.
00:51.11sontekHeartsbane: is there beer at sllug?
00:51.21sontekbeer trumps sllug everytime
00:51.32penobeer > *
00:51.52sontekdamn this phone takes a long to to update the repos
00:52.08penomy finger is bleeding. :(
00:52.22penocurses the canadian that invented square head screws
00:52.27sontekgives peno a bandaid with little penguins on it
00:52.57penoI have bandaids with the jolly roger on them!
01:13.21Heartsbanesontek: isn't SLLUG tonight or tommorrow
01:14.21herlotomorrow
01:14.32Heartsbanethanks gawd
01:14.39Heartsbaneexcuse me
01:14.45Heartsbanethanx gawd.
01:15.30HeartsbaneBeer will fine
01:16.14Heartsbaneis looking forward to watching Stuart, well be Stuart
01:16.28Heartsbaneand that is all I have to say about that
01:16.45Heartsbane<--- Forrest Gump of FOSS
01:38.41herlo~lart Heartsbane
01:38.41infobotwhacks Heartsbane with the cluebat
01:40.19peno~nobeer herlo
01:42.45herlo~thump peno for not getting a hotel list yet
01:42.46infobotACTION thumps peno for not getting a hotel list yet in the ear with a brick!
01:43.14peno~thump herlo for assuming that I'd do something that I wasn't asked to do
01:43.15infobotACTION thumps herlo for assuming that I'd do something that I wasn't asked to do in the ear with a brick!
01:43.22HeartsbaneI only talked to him about it on Sunday, give it rest
01:43.33herlolol
01:43.42peno~thump herlo again just because
01:43.42infobotACTION thumps herlo again just because in the ear with a brick!
01:43.42herlowas just responding in kind
01:44.18penoiirc, the conversation was "hotels, talk to you later about it"
01:44.22penoor similar
01:44.25penoK THX!
01:45.16Heartsbanehas everyone taken their blood pressure meds tonight
01:45.18HeartsbaneJesus
01:45.21penono
01:45.27penohas had a craptastic week
01:45.28herlolol
01:45.43herloisn't upset, and methinks Heartsbane hasn't taken his pills
01:46.18penobalancing three large projects this week blows.
01:46.52Heartsbaneshould have had one to many like I did on Monday night, I keep feeling better from the time I woke up this morning
01:47.36penoat least one project is complete now, but it becoms another next week.
01:48.18penoHeartsbane: good idea.  except I'm down to my last squatters hefe
01:49.29Heartsbanepeno: come with sontek and I tomorrow night, and I will get you a MacCools full suspension
01:50.14penoHeartsbane: can't, one of my projects continues tomorrow night
01:50.30penooperation powerplant.
01:51.36Heartsbanefacepalms.
02:42.56decriptorherlo: pong
02:43.10herlodecriptor: hi
02:43.26herlowants you to give him an email with a list of your top 10 alternatives not on the google doc
02:45.03decriptorok
02:45.24decriptorI'll look at that in about 30 minutes or so
02:45.28decriptorI'm about to drive home
02:51.11herlok, perfect
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03:32.07herlofozzmoo: blog is impending, almost have the code done!
03:32.21herlodoom be upon thou, my great and fearful warrior :)
03:32.24fozzmooCool. I'm finishing up my first UTOS UG blog.
03:51.41tristanbobherlo, do you know if the sponsors booth will be wired for ethernet?
03:57.05fozzmoohttp://blog.utos.org/2008/07/15/introducing-the-provo-linux-user-group-plug/
04:09.43herlotristanbob: it won't
04:11.45herlofozzmoo: very nice!
04:12.10herlotristanbob: it will, however have a very solid wireless connection
04:12.17herlothat's from what I've heard
04:12.52tristanbobherlo, hmm... just wondering how to connect my router to the internet....
04:13.01tristanbobwireless ethernet bridge?
04:13.07herlotristanbob: use a wireless to wire bridge :)
04:13.21tristanbobmaybe not a good idea to show off working voip
04:13.24herlohehe, that was gonna be my suggestion
04:13.42herloor you could bring your own switch and set up two phones locally only
04:37.34herlowhiteinge: ping
04:40.45whiteingeherlo: pong
04:41.47herlowhiteinge: is there an easy way to match on a date range?
04:42.01whiteingegive me an example
04:42.32herloI want to filter all of the presentations for a partuclar day
04:42.57herlobut they are all scheculed during that day
04:43.29herlowhiteinge: does that help?
04:44.01whiteingefilter a queryset?
04:44.23herloI guess
04:44.42herlothis is what I currently have
04:44.44herlo<PROTECTED>
04:45.12whiteingeand date is a datetime object?
04:46.07whiteinges/date/the ``date`` variable/
04:46.22herloright
04:46.40whiteingelooks fine to me. it's not working?
04:47.43herlonope
04:47.54herlothe thing is, it won't match
04:48.38whiteingeone sec...
04:49.22herlobecause the date object is for midnight on that date, but the presentations are scheduled at different times
04:50.00whiteingeoh! duh
04:50.01sontekherlo: you are missing a closing parens
04:50.17sontekoh wait, it got cut off my nicklist
04:50.18sontekits there!
04:50.31sontekI hate nicklist :P
04:51.03whiteingeherlo: you want http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/db-api/#range
04:51.53whiteingeor you can filter by .day(..).month(...).year(...)
04:52.00herloahh
04:52.46herloindeed
04:53.06whiteingeis slow tonight
04:53.46herlohehe, no worries
04:53.56herloI'm just finishing up the code for presentations
04:54.06whiteingenice
05:11.42herloalmost got it now, thx
05:12.22whiteingenp. which route did you go with?
05:12.50fozzmoodrums fingers and looks at watch and glances over at herlo ;-)
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05:13.32herlohas a question about how things are sorted
05:13.46herlowhiteinge: Presentation.objects.filter(status=Status.objects.get(name='Approved')).filter(start__month=date.month).filter(start__day=date.day).order_by('start')
05:14.24herloI could have skipped month, but I figured just in case the conference spans the end of one month and into another
05:15.02herloI wonder, should I display a short snippet of each presentatoin?  Or just list them ??
05:15.18Gateherlo: I see a speakers list!
05:15.27Gatestill in progress or is it the final list?
05:15.48herlosdflkj
05:15.58fozzmooSpeakers list has been up for a while... herlo's working on schedule-related bits, I believe.
05:18.34herloyeah, almost done with the actual scheule
05:18.45herloits got a few bits in flux, but most of it is set now
05:19.49herlofozzmoo: write the post, then backpost it to tonight at 11:59pm.  Titled, we squeaked the scheule in the door just in time!
05:20.16herlois having network issues (stupid L3)
05:20.20herlofrom the hotel
05:22.06herlosorting for talks at the same time? any suggestions?  its all abitrary right now
05:22.40herlothinking that I'll sort by room, but thats not implemented yet.  I won't have time to do that tonight :(
05:31.16herlofozzmoo: do you have a login to 2008.utosc.com/admin/ ??
05:31.36fozzmooUhm... I've gone there in the last couple days.
05:31.45herlok
05:32.16herloif you start looking at the presentations, you can look at which presentations made it and which did not
05:33.32decriptorYorokobi: ping
05:34.37fozzmoodecriptor: Are you on cold medication?
05:34.46decriptor?
05:34.56fozzmooJust read your latest blog post and wondered. ;-)
05:35.19decriptorwhat's wrong with it
05:35.21decriptor?
05:35.32fozzmooJust couldn't understand a lot of it.
05:35.42decriptoroh
05:35.48decriptordid I write it that bad
05:35.50decriptor:(
05:35.53decriptorsorry
05:36.31fozzmooHeh heh. I was just concerned... you know... that maybe you were on meds. :)
05:36.53fozzmooHerlo seems to find something to nitpick about with every post I make to the utos.org site.
05:36.55decriptordoes it not make any sense ?
05:37.03herlofozzmoo: lol, no I don't
05:37.08fozzmooAfter reading it 2 or 3 times, it starts to make sense. :)
05:37.08herlojust most of them :)
05:42.49herlok, just about done :)
05:45.43decriptorok I have a few
05:45.59decriptorI just looked at the topics and not the vote count since that page didn't have the approved tag
05:46.14herlooh okay
05:46.25decriptorso they are a bit all over
05:46.26decriptor:(
05:47.08decriptorok the email is on its way
05:47.38herlohttp://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/speakersexample.png <-- decriptor Heartsbane whiteinge fozzmoo whatdt do you guys thing?
05:47.42herlothink
05:48.17herlodecriptor: cool, tx
05:48.24fozzmooHey! Look at herlo's thing!
05:48.41fozzmooIt's not as long as I was expecting.
05:48.41fozzmooBut it's enough to give you the general idea.
05:48.42decriptorlol
05:48.44fozzmooLooks fine.
05:48.49decriptornot bad
05:49.11fozzmooWhere's memilyrae when you need a woman's input?
05:49.18herlosleeping :)
05:49.30fozzmooIsn't that always the case?
05:49.31memilyraefozzmoo: I'm here, actually
05:49.38memilyraefozzmoo: brat
05:49.46fozzmoomemilyrae: What do you think of herlo's thing?
05:49.46decriptorherlo: she stays up later than I do
05:49.59herlolol
05:50.02herlodecriptor: I know
05:51.05memilyraefozzmoo: I'm SO not commenting on that! BUT...the url stood out to me...I see speakerSEXample
05:51.20fozzmoogasps
05:51.42memilyraefozzmoo: you'll gasp at that but not about talking about herlo's thing?
05:51.43herlolol
05:51.46fozzmoobooks a flight for penisland.com right now
05:51.48herloI saw that too actually
05:52.01herlohehe
05:52.10herlomemilyrae: you are funny :)
05:52.24herlois uploading another sexample :)
05:52.27memilyraeherlo: I know... ;)
05:52.28fozzmooGood ole Pen Island. Such a place.
05:52.54herlofozzmoo: okay, that was good :)
05:53.40herlohttp://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/Screenshot.png
05:53.46herlothis is the per day view
05:53.58memilyraefozzmoo: are you sure you want to go there?  ;)jk
05:54.00decriptornot bad
05:56.25herlok, have one last one, then I'll update the site
06:01.10herlodecriptor: memilyrae  fozzmoo last one --> http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/speakerlinks.png
06:01.43fozzmooI'm not seeing anything.
06:01.52fozzmooIs that how it's supposed to be?
06:02.31herlowhat?
06:02.41herloyou're not seeing anything?
06:02.44herlono image?
06:02.51fozzmooMy browser window is blank
06:03.01herlohmm, its there
06:03.34herlofozzmoo: don't know
06:04.18herlofozzmoo: go to http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/ and look around
06:04.25fozzmooFF3 says there's a 535x331 image there...
06:04.32fozzmooso, I copied it and pasted it into gimp.
06:04.38fozzmooGimp also shows a blank image.
06:04.43fozzmooLet me try wgeting it
06:04.48herlofozzmoo: adblock?
06:05.17fozzmooWgeting worked.
06:05.21fozzmooI dunno.
06:05.25fozzmooMaybe a FF3 bug
06:05.26herlok, ignore the blank spot
06:05.28fozzmooAll the others worked fine.
06:05.32herloim on ff3
06:05.42fozzmooherlo: Wow! So am I!
06:05.44fozzmoo;-)
06:05.48herloduh!
06:05.52fozzmooherlo: We should hang out!
06:05.56herlothinks fozzmoo is punch drunk!
06:08.13herlofozzmoo: I'm currently updating the site
06:16.49herlofozzmoo: its up, almost perfect too!
06:17.45herlofozzmoo: don't show dates, I'm updating those now
06:17.47decriptorherlo: I'd think that the keynotes should stand out more and by themselves
06:17.57fozzmooIs that what those at the top are?
06:18.29herlodecriptor: they will!!
06:18.42decriptorok sounds good
06:18.45herlofozzmoo: yeah, I'm fixing those
06:24.21herlofozzmoo: decriptor: looking better?
06:24.48fozzmooI like it.
06:25.20herlokewl, like I said, some of the times are wrong or may change
06:25.28herlopoints out the tentative part :)
06:26.28herlofozzmoo: now we have, daily, full and by speaker schedules :)
06:27.01fozzmooK. I think I'm actually going to wait and blog about it tomorrow.
06:27.05fozzmooGood work, tho.
06:27.31herloeh!
06:27.42herloeh!
06:27.45herlofozzmoo: !!
06:28.25fozzmooWell, I can put up a short post saying, extra! extra! Read all about Herlo's thing!
06:28.39herlowell, alright, but back post it :)
06:28.44herlonot my THING!
06:29.02fozzmooherlo: Don't be ashamed of your thing.
06:29.07fozzmooWe all know you've been working on it all night.
06:29.14herloI'm not, just don't blog about it ;)
06:29.37herlounless that thing, is my code :)
06:31.57herlofozzmoo: ping me when the post goes up, thx
06:32.03fozzmoook
06:34.26memilyraeyou guys really are just sick and wrong
06:42.52herlomemilyrae: thanks
06:48.52fozzmooDang it!
06:48.58fozzmooWordpress won't let me upload an image.
06:49.06fozzmooStupid Wordpress!
06:54.16fozzmooAlright. It's up.
06:55.12herlookay! yay!
06:56.31herlofozzmoo: looks good!!!
06:56.45fozzmoo:-D
06:56.53herlofozzmoo: hey, we also need to send this to every list imaginable :)
06:57.03herlobut that can be done tomorrow
06:57.05fozzmooHow do "we" do that?
06:57.12herlomailng lists
06:57.33herlocopy and paste works pretty good o_^
06:57.41fozzmooRight. Do we have a placeholder account for that?
06:57.48fozzmooLike announcements@utos.org?
06:57.57herlonope, I usually just use mine, but we could do something like that
06:57.58fozzmooOr do we just use our personal accounts?
06:58.13herloI think its nice that it comes from someone in the community
06:58.18fozzmooYeah.
06:58.38herloI usually send it to no more than 3 lists at a time due to restrictions in some mailman instances
07:00.14fozzmooThat picture is from dreamstime.com
07:00.28fozzmooI have an account there.
07:00.33herloI like it
07:02.47herlofozzmoo: what do you think of a "community conference planet"?
07:03.09fozzmooFor all the people who will be blogging about stuff?
07:03.10herloa planet that aggregates announcements and progressions of conferences that are by, for and about the community
07:03.15fozzmooOh okay.
07:03.22fozzmooCould be cool.
07:03.30fozzmooAlright. Gotta go to bed.
07:03.35fozzmooGood work, herlo. Really.
07:03.40herlolike SCALE, LFNW, Ohio Linux Fest
07:03.47herlofozzmoo: thx, ttyl, thanks for the post
07:04.07fozzmoonp
07:04.22fozzmooherlo: Where are you this week?
07:04.40fozzmooPittsburgh?
07:09.31fozzmooplonks
07:15.26herlopoints to the west coast on a map, Silicon Valley
07:15.30herlofozzmoo: gnight man
09:24.59herlothe site looks good!  I kick ass!!
13:03.37jjollyherlo: ping
13:04.09jjolly(I know I'm probably not going to get a response to that anytime soon, as his last post was only 3.5 hours ago.)
13:15.43decriptorjjolly: I can't imagine him being around :)
13:21.22Yorokobidecriptor, pong
13:21.41decriptorYorokobi: any chance of you doing that openbsd presentation?
13:21.48Yorokobino chance
13:22.00YorokobiI do not plan on attending utosc this year
13:27.13decriptoroh ok
13:27.23decriptorsorry to hear that :(
13:50.59decriptorZelut: lot what mark s. has started :P  QT based gnome
13:51.21decriptors/lot/look/
13:52.07YorokobiKDE, the next Vista; Gnome, the next KDE
13:52.24decriptorfluxbox, the next Gnome
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14:10.48decriptornothing like an out of context statement to start the wars on the planets :P
14:11.32tensaiherlo: I see my name on the speakers list but I never got any sort of confirmation email. should I have? am I really on the list?
14:18.15herlotensai: the list is tentative
14:18.37herloI'll be sending emails out today, informing the speakers of their roles and what is required of them
14:19.01tensaiah, ok
14:19.10tensaiI will wait patiently
14:19.14herlojjolly: pong
14:20.23herlodecriptor: which out of context statement did shuttleworth make this time?
14:21.22Jayce^tensai, when I told him that was *your* presentation, he planned on removing it :-D
14:21.40decriptorherlo: he made a comment about gnome and qt and people are refering to it as a statement/thought that mark wants or is thinking about gnome using QT
14:21.41jjollyherlo: What is the best method for requesting a schedule change?
14:23.37tensaiJayce^: witty retort
14:27.45decriptorherlo: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/14/1245204&from=rss
14:27.50decriptorI know its slashdot
14:28.05decriptorso you never know what the article is actually about based on the title
14:28.06decriptor:/
14:28.39jjollydecriptor: As long as you don't read the comments, Slashdot actually provides useful information from time to time.
14:29.06jjollyReading the comments, though, will suck away your time and your lifeforce.
14:29.11decriptoron a rare occasion that I missed it on other blogs days earlier
14:29.12decriptor:)
14:30.14herlodecriptor: ahh, interesting
14:30.20herlojjolly: ask :)
14:30.48jjollyherlo: I didn't know if there was a specific channel through which I should ask.
14:30.53herloJayce^: smarta**
14:30.59herlojjolly: #utos :)
14:31.08herloemail works too
14:31.14herloclint@utos.org
14:31.23jjollyherlo: with that in mind, I do not exist on the last Friday or August, so Thursday or Saturday would be better for me.
14:31.44herloyou don't exist??
14:31.51herlowow, that's a cool trick!
14:32.19jjollySomething about a craft fair in Midway called Swiss Days.  It is traditionally the day she makes the pilgramage up the canyon and I become a babysitter.
14:32.38herlojjolly: ahh, indeed
14:33.03herlolooks around
14:36.57herlogoes to get ready for work now
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15:54.53herlowhiteinge: did you see my work from last night?
15:55.16whiteingeherlo: I did. Nice job!
15:58.13herlowhiteinge: did you see you are on the list?
15:58.22herlogets more to his point :)
15:58.52whiteingeherlo: no. which list?
16:03.11herlowhiteinge: http://2008.utosc.com/speaker/list/
16:03.44whiteingeherlo: Hey, look! It's me!
16:03.58herlowhiteinge: yay!
16:04.07whiteingeI didn't think I'd be picked for some reason.
16:04.07herloI also will be sending out emails today
16:04.14herlowhiteinge: well...
16:07.02herlo:) hehe
16:07.04decriptorherlo: we need a banner for linux journal
16:07.10decriptorand they are sending me their logos
16:07.18decriptorour ad is definitely in too :)
16:08.18decriptorour conference is on the event page for activestate, but the date is wrong
16:08.21decriptorin the heading
16:08.25decriptorhttp://activestate.com/company/events.mhtml
16:08.28herlodecriptor: you mean like this: http://beta.utos.org??
16:08.38decriptor?
16:08.44herlogo there
16:08.45decriptornot really a banner
16:09.07herlomake one based upon it :)
16:27.17decriptorherlo: I just found out that the activestate guy is originally from utah
16:27.18decriptor!
16:27.56Jayce^bonus
16:33.30decriptorthat's better
16:33.42decriptorthe LJ logo was a little out of control on the main page
16:35.38decriptorherlo: if you have some time, I don't...The logo you sent is fine, but it needs to be 336X90.
16:55.49decriptorherlo: do you want to cover some of my cost to go to linux world expo :P
16:56.00herlodecriptor: uh
16:56.06herlosure??
16:56.24decriptorits august 4-7 in SF
16:56.28herloI know
16:56.47herlohow much do you need?  I'm thinking I might start doing more of that next year actuallyh
16:56.50decriptorLJ was asking if I was going to be there to pick up some swag from them, if not they'll mail it
16:56.53herlosponsoring certain people...
16:57.09herlodecriptor: have them mail it anyway, its painful to carry swag back :)
16:57.11decriptorI'm also thinking this way I can round up some last minute swag and other goodies :)
16:57.16herlocourse, it might be cheaper
16:57.29decriptorherlo: the mags I think they are going to mail, but any left over
16:57.29herlodecriptor: go to OSCON for free, next week
16:57.35decriptorfrom LWE
16:57.36herloahh
16:57.49herloyeah, sure let's talk more next week
16:57.54herloI plan to have another meeting next week
16:58.00herloin Orem
16:58.11decriptorwe might have to move fast :(   it looks like it might be cheaper to fly
16:58.13herloProbably Tuesday eve
16:58.22decriptorfor the meeting that works
16:58.30decriptorI'm going to see what I can get out of work too :)
16:58.36herlodecriptor: my theory is that we'll probably start a reimbursement process
16:58.41decriptorah
16:58.43decriptorthat works
16:58.55herloso you might have to pay first, then get reimbursed for what we offer/promise
16:59.15herlois kinda waiting for the 501c3 stuff to get finished to really start doing more of this stuff
16:59.52decriptorthat works
17:00.54herlodecriptor: we probably could just screenshot our site at http://2008.utosc.com and use that?
17:01.39decriptorfor the banner?
17:01.52herloyep
17:23.09Jayce^herlo, did spr get bumped from speaking? not seeing him in the schedule now
17:27.44sontekYOU CANT BUMP THE SPRR!
17:28.04sontekmakes the FREE SPR signs
17:38.48herloJayce^: I still have room
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17:51.41herloI guess I missed him, good thing we have a checks and balances system :)
17:55.02herlonext on my list, make slide uploads work
18:01.39fozzmoomake work uploads slide. Wheeeeee!
18:02.21herlolol
18:02.46herlofozzmoo: you now know why your crack goes one way and not the other :)
18:03.01herlobbb---bbbb---bbb-bbbb-b-bbbb-bb-bb-bb-bbb
18:03.25fozzmooI think it's been 20 years since I've heard that one. ;-)
18:06.42herlow00t! I made a funny
18:07.21herlofozzmoo: but you *know* you were thinking of doing the noise with your mouth and finger oscillations :)
18:20.05herloanyone going to sllug tonight??
18:22.07eggyknapThat would have been fun, barring 2-year-olds being sick.
18:22.56herloeggyknap: I'm trying to get ppl to go so they can record it, I'm in Santa Clara
18:23.01herloI want to listen to it :(
18:32.15decriptorredhat protects self and customers from firestar's patents, sun debunks and gets rid of patent for whole community :)
18:38.59herlodecriptor: to what are you referring?
18:39.14decriptorhttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-sun-eclipses-red-hat-firestar-pact-as-patent-invalidated.html
18:39.17decriptorooops
18:39.20decriptorsorry
18:39.33decriptorhttp://tinyurl.com/6ba8c3
18:39.36decriptorah much better
18:43.15herlodecriptor: did you see that you can *customize* your tinyurls now?
18:43.47decriptoryeah
18:44.08decriptorbut that would require even more effort than it took to just make the tinyurl in the first place :P
18:45.17herlointeresting read
18:45.41herlodecriptor: just wondered, wasn't suggesting you had to customize *every* tinyurl or even this one :)
18:46.00decriptoryeah, I think its cool that you can customize them now
18:48.57herloI know, yay!
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18:54.19decriptorherlo: though I do love the cryptic urls
18:57.14herlolol, with preview they are not so bad
22:11.15decriptorherlo: if I fly its about 1100 total
22:11.35herlouh, we don't have $1100 to give away
22:11.37herlo:(
22:11.50decriptorI know :)
22:11.54decriptorI'm working on funding
23:03.21findlaydoesn't understand why everybody is afraid of URLs over 72 chars
23:03.41herlofindlay: we're not afraid of them
23:03.54findlayto me it seems like the only people who'd freak out are windows users who are used to everything in their world being 8.3'd
23:04.03herlothey're just annoying when you have to copy and paste when its easier to click
23:04.44herlofindlay: if irssi wraps my url, I can't click it and get the correct url
23:04.49sontekherlo: if you use a proper terminal and remove nicklist from irssi, you can click on it just fine
23:04.51findlayif all tinyurl does for you is take a descriptive url and turn it into some short string of garbage there doesn't seem to be much advantage
23:04.51herloand copy and paste becomes messy
23:04.54sontekherlo: its not irssi thats doing it, its nicklist
23:05.01herlosontek: not removing nicklist
23:05.04sontekherlo: irssi wrapped links are still clickable
23:05.04findlaymy terminal has really good URL recognition builtin
23:05.42findlayherlo: your terminal must be inferior :)
23:05.53sontekfindlay's terminal > herlo's
23:05.59sontek~findlay herlo
23:06.00infobotACTION recreationally nmaps herlo with abandon
23:06.55sontekherlo: did you guys already order lanyards for the conference? Lisa from pc nametag just e-mailed and was like "Hey, saw your conference was coming up, was wondering if you were going to need to order from us again?"
23:07.03sontekherlo: I can forward her contact info if you haven't
23:08.05herlowe have someone who's getting them last I checked, decriptor knows who
23:10.33herlofindlay: its *not* my terminal!
23:10.55sontekherlo: if its not nicklist and its not your terminal, its you! ;P
23:12.08herlosontek: its nicklist, I'm not getting rid of nicklist
23:12.14herlosaid that before
23:12.43sonteknicklist is the devil
23:12.47sontekI just type /names
23:17.04herlono
23:17.09herloI don't wann!
23:17.16herlos/nn/nna!/
23:17.34herlostamps foot
23:18.53findlay~make herlo do it
23:18.54infobotmake: *** No rule to make target `herlo do it'.  Stop.
23:42.55herlolol, too bad
23:43.44fozzmooherlo: Was Neverblock inaccessible just recently?
23:46.11fozzmooBeuler?
23:46.22fozzmooBueler?
23:46.35fozzmoookay then.
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