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| 16:09.52 | spangborn | Currently explaining what a local hostname is to a developer |
| 16:09.55 | spangborn | How is this my life |
| 16:17.40 | romanovic | spangborn: your employer has really won the developer lottery. developers who don't understand url encoding or local hostnames? |
| 16:18.42 | spangborn | Thankfully this particular individual is a contractor |
| 16:19.06 | spangborn | It's more that the business units I interact with try to spend the least amount of money on developers as possible |
| 16:19.11 | romanovic | do you work in a geographical location that can't attract capable developers? does your employer only hire developers willing to work at half of the local market price? |
| 16:19.17 | romanovic | ah |
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| 16:54.15 | Migs | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3186748/security/millions-of-websites-affected-by-unpatched-flaw-in-microsoft-iis-6-web-server.html#tk.rss_all |
| 16:57.56 | spangborn | Brb running calc.exe on every server I can find |
| 16:58.18 | aeryndunham | this is why you don't use iis |
| 16:58.43 | spangborn | LOL |
| 16:59.04 | spangborn | I mean, I hate IIS as much as anyone, but this kind of thing can happen to lots of webservers |
| 16:59.20 | spangborn | Although my employer will not expose IIS boxes outside of our network |
| 17:00.31 | aeryndunham | I had to use IIS at work once and I haaaated it |
| 17:01.14 | aeryndunham | But I also realize that I probably lose credibility on this because I use apache instead of nginx |
| 17:07.12 | programmerq | apache and nginx don't exactly have feature parity. it's valid to use either, in my opinion. |
| 17:07.32 | programmerq | I prefer nginx for some situations over apache for sure, and my list of cases to use apache has diminished in favor of nginx |
| 17:07.36 | programmerq | but apache isn't _bad_ |
| 17:08.54 | spangborn | It's good if you have 128GB of RAM |
| 17:09.01 | spangborn | hugs nginx |
| 17:10.23 | programmerq | apache isn't _java_ |
| 17:17.27 | unum | get good at upgrades |
| 17:22.29 | spangborn | LOL |
| 17:33.12 | TodPunk | spangborn: it's IIS 6 though |
| 17:33.30 | TodPunk | this is like finding a vulnerability in IE 8 |
| 17:33.47 | TodPunk | It is, in fact, still relevant, but they deserve that pain |
| 17:34.07 | spangborn | Build once, never update |
| 17:34.42 | aeryndunham | I'm thinking of signing up for a wine subscription service. good idea or bad idea. |
| 17:34.55 | spangborn | Do they deserve the pain because it's IIS, or do they deserve the pain because it's IIS 6? |
| 17:35.43 | TodPunk | IIS 6 |
| 17:36.03 | spangborn | Fair |
| 17:36.49 | TodPunk | IIS is different, but that doesn't make it bad. It meets a different use case. It's like saying WebSphere is bad because it's not Nginx, or Tomcat. They don't even compare in the uses. |
| 17:37.11 | spangborn | Well I mean WebSphere is bad |
| 17:37.12 | TodPunk | If you're using IIS for just your wordpress site... I have troubles believing that's a valid use case. |
| 17:37.25 | spangborn | TodPunk: Believe it or not, I got to configure IIS just for that |
| 17:37.30 | spangborn | For a freelance client |
| 17:37.40 | TodPunk | isn't freelance for a reason |
| 17:37.48 | spangborn | Because the person administering the server after I finished development doesn't want to use linux |
| 17:37.50 | spangborn | LOL |
| 17:38.16 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: No idea. I don't drink wine or any other alchoholic beverages, so I wouldn't know :s |
| 17:38.39 | spangborn | aeryndunham: I think it's a great idea, but only because I can't do it here ;p |
| 17:39.11 | frostyfrog | spangborn: WAMP? |
| 17:39.20 | frostyfrog | :P |
| 17:39.26 | spangborn | frostyfrog: I briefly considered it |
| 17:39.37 | aeryndunham | I'm perfectly happy to go byt my own wine but the selections here are DIRE |
| 17:39.51 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Sounds like a good time to start drinking whiskey instead |
| 17:40.15 | aeryndunham | That is true |
| 17:40.33 | spangborn | But I say that because I don't particularly care for most wine |
| 17:40.43 | aeryndunham | Chris's family lives in wine country in Canada and it's amaaaazin |
| 17:40.45 | frostyfrog | I care |
| 17:41.04 | frostyfrog | So long as it's not annoying like a whining child. ;P |
| 17:41.15 | spangborn | LOL |
| 17:41.19 | spangborn | DAD JOKE ALERT |
| 17:41.23 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 17:42.16 | TodPunk | aeryndunham: it's kind of fun sometimes when you get variety mailers, but some of the services are terrible selectors, so obviously be choosy |
| 17:42.43 | aeryndunham | yeah |
| 17:42.50 | aeryndunham | brb, going to take doggo outside |
| 17:42.54 | TodPunk | Utah can't get any of them. It's very sad. |
| 17:43.03 | aeryndunham | that's crazy |
| 17:46.31 | spangborn | I wish we could, because Wine.woot would have been so useful |
| 18:07.39 | aeryndunham | This dog loves being outside.. it's so sad I can't bring him to the dog park |
| 18:13.56 | romanovic | aeryndunham: why not? is that a condition imposed when fostering dogs? |
| 18:14.22 | aeryndunham | No, not typically, but he's contagious |
| 18:14.38 | aeryndunham | And I don't imagine the local dog owners really want kennel cough |
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| 19:02.37 | beelzebob | any postgres users here familiar with barman? (http://www.pgbarman.org/) |
| 19:03.23 | beelzebob | it looks pretty sweet, but I'm looking for comforting anecdotal confirmation |
| 19:09.33 | TodPunk | I've heard good things about barman |
| 19:09.39 | TodPunk | I've never had to use it first hand |
| 19:10.48 | beelzebob | ok, cool - that is slightly comforting :) |
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| 19:21.15 | spangborn | Wee this is going to be a wet commute home |
| 19:21.28 | spangborn | Guess who didn't check the hourly forecast when he got up and rode the bike to work? |
| 19:23.06 | TodPunk | but, but, biking is so awesome and stuff, I'm told |
| 19:53.07 | spangborn | It is awesome |
| 19:53.15 | spangborn | Sometimes it's just slightly less awesome |
| 19:53.40 | spangborn | Fortunately the bike I brought is intended for mud, so no issues there |
| 20:09.15 | Migs | I just realized something. When I was a kid we went on a field trip and learned about lasers, and then the guy put on some cheapass "laser show" where he made the laser dance around by blasting music. Then later we all remembered this in physics class and the teacher said light doesn't have mass, then we said "What about dancing lasers? If there's no mass, how did the sound waves affect them?" |
| 20:09.15 | Migs | And he was all, "oh, I guess that means light has mass." |
| 20:09.28 | aeryndunham | clearance sale on gear.blizzard.com! |
| 20:09.28 | Migs | Now I realize the bass was probably just making the projector move, and that's what made it seem like it was dancing around. |
| 20:09.33 | aeryndunham | buys all the plushies |
| 20:09.49 | Migs | And now I have to undo this weird misconception that's been in my head all these years, that light somehow has mass, even though I've heard numerous times that it doesn't. |
| 20:10.31 | unum | You can destroy things by hitting them with laser |
| 20:10.33 | unum | s |
| 20:11.02 | Migs | okay wait |
| 20:11.22 | Migs | that's just heat, though |
| 20:11.34 | jlp_znc | don't forget energy <=> mass: E=mc^2Â |
| 20:12.05 | TodPunk | Light technically has mass, just not in a way that matters in most cases if you're not a physicist |
| 20:12.08 | Migs | right, that's energy from the electromagnetic field |
| 20:13.04 | jlp_znc | I can hurt you with my little laser pen if I hit you with it... think stabbing. :-) |
| 20:15.50 | beelzebob | Migs: my middle school health teacher told us that you can't get fat by eating sugar |
| 20:16.27 | beelzebob | our poor youth |
| 20:16.36 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: Plushies?! Where?! *checks gear.blizzard.com* |
| 20:16.58 | beelzebob | I guess to be fair, I've misunderstood plenty of accurately presented information |
| 20:49.32 | frostyfrog | We have an internal war going on in my job's slack server. xD |
| 20:50.03 | frostyfrog | The things that make it oh so great, people were turning it into a not so great feature. |
| 20:50.42 | frostyfrog | All because of a bunch of party parrot emojis that someone put on the server a while back. :p |
| 21:08.01 | jlp_znc | "someone" |
| 21:08.14 | jlp_znc | looks directly at frostyfrog |
| 21:09.14 | spangborn | ಠ__ಠ|
| 21:44.16 | frostyfrog | Nah, not me. |
| 21:44.27 | frostyfrog | I just created the :frostyfrog: emoji. |
| 21:44.47 | frostyfrog | It works great! It also pings me when they use it in a channel I'm in xD |
| 22:09.41 | SunSparc | Go SpaceX Go!!! http://www.spacex.com/webcast |