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| 15:09.17 | sodaplayer | LibreSSL's site hurts me a bit on the inside: http://www.libressl.org/ |
| 15:09.58 | sodaplayer | "This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters." xD |
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| 15:24.14 | youtah | So.... I took this photograph over the weekend.... |
| 15:24.15 | youtah | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10011944_10152017444020060_5650356924747163452_o.jpg |
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| 16:14.19 | youtah | BOOM! Guess who's now an official Stringer Photographers for USA Today?!?!?! |
| 16:15.44 | sodaplayer | Dunno -- is it youtah? |
| 16:16.05 | youtah | You sir win two skittles! See jima for payment |
| 16:16.22 | sodaplayer | :D |
| 16:16.27 | sodaplayer | What flavors? |
| 16:16.55 | youtah | That will have to be worked out with Q_Continuum .... and then delivered by jima |
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| 16:52.12 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/1491688_638544679550296_342022872660992969_n.jpg |
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| 17:36.58 | jxqz | as documented |
| 17:37.09 | jxqz | or even work opposite as what is documented |
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| 20:40.16 | programmerq | has anyone done any research on network-enabled sprinkler controllers? |
| 20:40.41 | programmerq | it seems like there should be a sprinkler controller that has some of the same advantages/features of the NEST thermostat. |
| 20:42.11 | programmerq | and it does look like several exist |
| 20:42.21 | programmerq | but they could be really bad fairly easily. |
| 20:42.28 | tomstokes | These guys are local, but appear to be a bit on the vaporware side so far: http://www.skydrop.com/ |
| 20:42.54 | tomstokes | Also $299 is a lot for something you're not exactly going to change very often. |
| 20:43.07 | programmerq | there's also this project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/173231925/lono-sprinkler-controller |
| 20:43.09 | programmerq | they are local |
| 20:43.13 | programmerq | not shipping until summer though |
| 20:43.16 | programmerq | not the best timing |
| 20:43.27 | programmerq | (they have preorders on their site up as well) |
| 20:43.41 | tomstokes | I remember another local company doing an automatic sprinkler controller, too, but I can't remember the name. |
| 20:43.56 | programmerq | I'm not thinking that I would want to change it often. I'd like to save some money by having it check weather online or whatever. |
| 20:44.19 | programmerq | gonna rain this afternoon? skip this morning's watering |
| 20:44.25 | programmerq | shrugs |
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| 20:56.56 | RyanE | There are a few 'advanced' sprinkler controllers, but most are pretty expensive: |
| 20:57.09 | RyanE | http://rayshobby.net/cart/os <--- OpenSprinkler |
| 20:57.16 | RyanE | http://www.irrigationcaddy.com/ |
| 20:57.26 | RyanE | http://www.wgldesigns.com/rain8pc.html |
| 20:57.34 | RyanE | https://www.cyber-rain.com/ |
| 20:57.46 | RyanE | Most of these are controllable / settable via webpage. |
| 20:58.14 | RyanE | Personally, I'd probably go with OpenSprinkler, just because, as open source, you could probably build your own expansion boards... |
| 20:58.24 | RyanE | and it's probably the least expensive of these options. |
| 20:58.28 | programmerq | yeah, I did run across that one in my research. |
| 20:58.35 | programmerq | I'll have to play with the software. |
| 20:58.45 | RyanE | Irrigation Caddy was on sale at Home Depot a week or so ago, but I don't know how much it was for. |
| 21:09.30 | unum | anyone have any good softphones they like |
| 21:13.17 | Jayce | kickstarted the lono, waiting for that |
| 21:15.23 | goozbach | blink lite is decent |
| 21:15.25 | goozbach | enough |
| 21:16.49 | unum | found the old email thread on it |
| 21:16.53 | unum | taking a look at that now |
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| 21:21.17 | programmerq | unum: I have used x-lite before. it worked well enough for making calls. |
| 21:21.24 | programmerq | I was mostly playing with it rather than *using* it. |
| 21:21.27 | programmerq | if that makes sense. |
| 21:32.13 | programmerq | irrigation caddy's marketing video shows a dude on vacation getting a text saying that it didn't rain after all, and then shows him manually turning his sprinklers on |
| 21:32.23 | programmerq | so I guess that means it doesn't try to check the weather for you? |
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| 21:39.49 | unum | programmerq: we've been using that but some users are complaining about an issue related to the pause button, trying to get more details on that as I explore other options |
| 21:40.02 | unum | nice thing about blink lite is that the linux version is also free |
| 21:40.17 | unum | programmerq: I'm working it ;) |
| 21:41.08 | unum | in the meantime you can use landscape watering guide currently availiable on google play for android |
| 21:42.01 | RyanE | programmerq: unfortunately, I don't have first-hand experience in any of them. They're just the options our automation dealers are looking at for controlling with Control4. |
| 21:42.59 | unum | we started to build one with a raspberry pi |
| 21:43.22 | unum | you can purchase usb relay boards for $35(iirc) |
| 22:01.58 | jxqz | what's so hard about a raspberrypi and a cronjob? |
| 22:02.29 | jxqz | if you've already got a sprinkler controller in place, it's a 30 minute hardware upgrade |
| 22:04.06 | programmerq | simple cron is probably worse functionality than my current controller. |
| 22:06.19 | tomstokes | Also more maintenance |
| 22:08.15 | RyanE | yeah, and the nice thing about something smarter than cron jobs is it can take rain info from a rain sensor and weather info / rain info from the Internet. |
| 22:08.22 | RyanE | (in theory)... |
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| 22:15.54 | youtah | harleypig, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY |
| 22:15.58 | youtah | YOU MUST CLICK LINKY |
| 22:16.01 | youtah | "MEN cannot sexisamism a RAPE woman if she is LESBIENAMANISM and done a HITLER!" uh........... http://imgur.com/gallery/3xzo5Az |
| 22:17.11 | fozzmoo | http://rayshobby.net/cart/ospi |
| 22:17.48 | fozzmoo | blinks at youtah |
| 22:18.20 | youtah | fozzmoo, you click the linky? |
| 22:18.44 | fozzmoo | looks left, then right |
| 22:18.46 | youtah | 's reaction -> http://i.imgur.com/P7pifXD.gif |
| 22:18.47 | unum | our current plan is to tie our service to the irrigation caddy's cloud service |
| 22:18.48 | fozzmoo | maybe. |
| 22:18.55 | fozzmoo | Pretty much. |
| 22:19.00 | unum | so our service will turn off your sprinklers based off the forecast |
| 22:20.28 | jxqz | programmerq: I've never seen a sprinkler controller that's better than a cron job |
| 22:20.44 | youtah | hey fozzmoo can you throw something at harleypig?!?!?! He's not responding |
| 22:20.54 | fozzmoo | ~lart harleypig |
| 22:20.54 | infobot | takes harleypig to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 22:21.01 | youtah | ROFL |
| 22:21.32 | jxqz | "it is a rule universally verified that sprinkler controllers are junky crap" |
| 22:22.37 | unum | jxqz: some of them have sensors that detect rain and turn off |
| 22:23.21 | harleypig | youtah: woah ... that's funny |
| 22:23.22 | youtah | OMGosh that has to be the funniest one larts I have seen |
| 22:23.27 | harleypig | the expression on the last pic makes it |
| 22:23.31 | jxqz | unum: the ability to detect rain does not make a sprinkler controller better than a cron job running on a single board computer |
| 22:23.39 | youtah | harleypig, perfect use of the bottom two gifs |
| 22:23.43 | harleypig | I'm already neutered ... I'm divorced! |
| 22:23.45 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.17 | jxqz | unum: to prove this, try to set the time on your controller |
| 22:24.26 | jxqz | twice a year, because DST |
| 22:24.35 | jxqz | actually 3 times because clock drift |
| 22:25.18 | jxqz | 3 times a year you waste 15 minutes of your life trying to get the clock right, assuming you can even know what you're doing |
| 22:25.22 | programmerq | either way, the best solution is going to be an end-to-end solution that can sense, detect, sync time, adjust to weather conditions and have some sort of interface |
| 22:25.35 | programmerq | which would be single board computer + cron + a bunch of other software |
| 22:25.44 | programmerq | and it's the bunch of other software that would make it better |
| 22:26.02 | jxqz | programmerq: no way, it's just a script here and there that will do the job for you :) |
| 22:26.48 | programmerq | my motivation is to try to optimize and save a bit of cash. I don't see all the time I'd put into building my own actually doing that |
| 22:26.50 | programmerq | shrugs |
| 22:27.26 | jxqz | programmerq: a unified software solution is obviously better than some cron scripts |
| 22:28.03 | jxqz | but in my experience *anything* is better than an legacy controller |
| 22:28.12 | programmerq | eh, I have a newish controller |
| 22:28.16 | unum | jxqz: why would I care if my controller is off an hour between oct and mar? |
| 22:29.10 | unum | I agree with programmerq's statement |
| 22:30.54 | jxqz | programmerq: well, I haven't seen newer controllers, I guess |
| 22:31.29 | jxqz | unum: legacy sprinkler controllers are always a major annoyance in my experience |
| 22:31.38 | programmerq | the one at my last house was terrible |
| 22:31.42 | programmerq | had to google the manual |
| 22:32.02 | programmerq | this one I was able to figure out most stuff in about 2 minutes, including setting time |
| 22:32.16 | programmerq | I did peek through the manual to see how to run a predefined program immediately |
| 22:32.19 | unum | mine is really simple |
| 22:32.43 | unum | setting the time is similiar to setting my car clock iirc |
| 22:32.52 | unum | not sure I've actually done it... |
| 22:33.31 | unum | none the less I'm likely to replace it with opensprinkler pi, because I'm like that |
| 22:33.44 | programmerq | modern car clocks should be set with a low cost GPS module, if they haven't started doing that already. |
| 22:35.35 | jxqz | unum: you're not supposed to agree with programmerq. You're supposed to be convinced your thinking was egregiously erroneous because of my superior fiat and logical extravagence |
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| 22:37.01 | youtah | wonders if Nacho Cheese can be sprayed via a Super Soaker. |
| 22:37.25 | youtah | think of the possibilities |
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| 22:40.29 | harleypig | youtah: only if it were warm |
| 22:40.44 | harleypig | And they were wearing bikinis |
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