| 00:22.14 | youtah | Potatoes are going to potate |
| 00:22.34 | youtah | Managers Manage. Players Play |
| 00:27.07 | youtah | Life is hard sometimes.... http://i.imgur.com/P8xGaqt.gif |
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| 00:30.37 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/AjwAwjI.jpg |
| 00:32.01 | finishingmove | what's a reasonable salary to expect as a front-end engineer in your parts? |
| 00:32.51 | jlp_znc | idaho? eight dollars a day and all the potatoes you can eat |
| 00:33.25 | finishingmove | potatoes sound like a good deal actually |
| 00:33.27 | jlp_znc | what level of experience? |
| 00:34.08 | finishingmove | 2 years, pretty solid js skills |
| 00:34.32 | finishingmove | server-side too |
| 00:35.09 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/aQ830JQ.jpg |
| 00:35.12 | jlp_znc | I'm thinking $40-$50k/year, maybe? been a while since I hired anyone, though. there are some other guys on here to would probably have better numbers. |
| 00:36.29 | youtah | If you haven't seen the interview yet.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjOkTib5eVQ |
| 00:37.08 | jlp_znc | stick around, finishingmove, someone else will notice your question and respond. or check back tomorrow... a lot of people had the day off today, I think. |
| 00:37.28 | finishingmove | cool, thanks for the intel. |
| 00:37.47 | youtah | Glass Door (whatever it's called) might have some info. |
| 00:38.45 | finishingmove | gonna check that out too. thanks |
| 00:46.34 | youtah | np |
| 00:46.37 | youtah | outta here. Later |
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| 01:38.13 | jxqz | jlp_znc's numbers sound good |
| 01:39.35 | finishingmove | cool, thanks :) |
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| 01:40.39 | jxqz | and with that, the Polish guy is gone |
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| 16:05.42 | jlp_znc | http://bit.ly/LNXIBw <- 24" Acer monitor for $140 from tiger direct. |
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| 16:18.24 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 16:18.24 | infobot | There's like a buttload of gangs at this school. One of them kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bowstaff. |
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| 16:29.23 | unum | about time re:logmein |
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| 17:37.16 | fugue88 | Wow. |
| 17:37.23 | fugue88 | Comcast "requires a 60 day disconnect notice." |
| 17:37.41 | fugue88 | I'm already paying a diff ISP, but Comcast says I'm on the hook for 2 more billing periods. |
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| 17:37.45 | fugue88 | ~comcast-- |
| 17:38.01 | fugue88 | ~karma comcast |
| 17:38.01 | infobot | comcast has karma of -226 |
| 17:38.01 | klys | how is everything else |
| 17:38.06 | fugue88 | Not low enough. |
| 17:38.07 | jlp_znc | ow |
| 17:38.08 | fugue88 | ~comcast-- |
| 17:38.10 | Jayce^ | just put a stop payment on it :) |
| 17:38.20 | fugue88 | Jayce^: Yeah, no kidding. |
| 17:39.08 | fugue88 | ~comcast-- |
| 17:39.35 | fozzmoo | coughs |
| 17:39.49 | fozzmoo | fugue88: Who did you change to? |
| 17:39.50 | fugue88 | Let me share the pain. I'm paying $85 a month, about to go up to $95. This is for *just* internet, lowest class I could get with a static IP. |
| 17:39.52 | fugue88 | fozzmoo: Digis. |
| 17:39.59 | fozzmoo | That'll be interesting. |
| 17:40.49 | fozzmoo | I've been curious how Digis customers feel. |
| 17:40.59 | fugue88 | fozzmoo: So far Digis has been fine. The upload speed's a bit lame, but so far the e-mail is still getting through, and the bots are still crawling my unpopular web sites. |
| 17:41.08 | Migs | first world problems |
| 17:41.11 | fugue88 | :) |
| 17:41.42 | fugue88 | Talking with the Digis people on the phone is good, like talking with xmission people. |
| 17:42.07 | fugue88 | ~comcast-- |
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| 17:43.03 | fozzmoo | Yeah, they're a local, no-contract ISP. |
| 17:43.27 | fozzmoo | That's all good... but then, they're a wireless ISP. |
| 17:43.30 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 17:43.59 | fozzmoo | How long had you had Comcast? |
| 17:44.58 | fugue88 | fozzmoo: Almost 4 years. |
| 17:45.23 | fugue88 | And they kept sending me offers to get internet at ~$60/month. If I were a new customer. |
| 17:45.33 | fugue88 | But they weren't willing to lower my cost. |
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| 17:53.48 | jlp_znc | even when you told them you were leaving? |
| 18:01.40 | Jayce^ | ugh, had digis long ago, was very glad to get off |
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| 18:07.30 | fozzmoo | Yeah- I have Comcast for Internet and nothing else. |
| 18:07.54 | fozzmoo | They were calling me incessantly to offer me faster speeds, cable TV, and phone for a long while. |
| 18:08.57 | fozzmoo | Finally, I got on the phone with a nice Comcast person and explained to them I had absolutely no interest in anything they offered, except Internet access and I was completely happy with the speeds I was getting. |
| 18:09.30 | fozzmoo | They apparently took me off their lists because they haven't bothered me since. |
| 18:09.40 | fozzmoo | I was amazed it was even possible. |
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| 18:29.23 | Migs | I have the best leftovers today. Shrimp and lobster ravioli with homemade alfredo sauce. |
| 18:33.36 | fugue88 | jlp_znc: When I told them I was leaving, they offered to prevent the $10/month increase from taking affect, if I signed a new contract. |
| 18:42.35 | unum | did anyone else see this: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/57400654-82/trade-intellectual-property-american.html.csp |
| 18:50.43 | romanovic | unum: wow. interesting. |
| 18:50.49 | romanovic | and by interesting i mean bs |
| 18:53.28 | romanovic | "It’s critical that officials not sacrifice intellectual property protections for the sake of striking a timely deal" <-- if these protections are sacrificed, its because they are almost universally recognised as a bad idea for everyone involved, except for Big Media and the politicians they pay. Not because they aren't spending enough time on hammering out a deal. |
| 18:54.54 | romanovic | "Worse still, without strong intellectual property protections in place, American innovation will suffer." <-- not sure why the author thought he could get away with stating things the opposite of true. Innovation != number of patents or amount of copyrighted material |
| 19:00.47 | jlp_znc | romanovic: don't you know, if you say something often enough and/or loud enough, it becomes true. |
| 19:08.36 | fugue88 | Luckily, the claim that "saying something often or loud leads to it being accepted as true" has been said often and loud, so I now accept that as true. :P |
| 19:08.49 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 19:09.09 | fugue88 | isn't disputing it, even sarcastically |
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| 19:17.42 | unum | I'm trying to decide between trying to get full fledged rebuttal in a sunday paper, or just writing a short letter to the editor |
| 19:17.50 | unum | should probably go with the latter |
| 19:18.10 | unum | of course they published one of my letters last week, so they may not want to publish one from me again so soon |
| 19:18.25 | unum | actually we should pashdown to do a full sunday rebuttal |
| 19:18.38 | unum | s/should/should get |
| 19:18.44 | jlp_znc | you're more likely to get a letter published, but it would be more fun to do the full rebuttal |
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| 19:19.14 | unum | well the main point is that he's being vague |
| 19:19.19 | unum | and that can be accomplished in a letter |
| 19:19.56 | unum | he uses the term "strong intellectual property protection" but never mentions any of the proposal(because they're secret) |
| 19:20.09 | unum | and the senate is alread preparing to fast track the treaty |
| 19:36.31 | unum | Senator Bramble extolled to us the importance of “strong intellectual property protections that foster innovation and job creation”. I would love to engage Senator Bramble in an open conversation about how the provisions of TPP will foster innovation and job creation, but I can't. The provisions are secret and will not be revealed until they are introduced into the US Senate to be voted on through a fast track method, in order to prevent a debate of the p |
| 19:36.42 | unum | I think that's my main point I should just submit it |
| 19:36.57 | unum | but I encoure every one else to submit their own :) |
| 19:39.03 | fadein | even if the TPP wasn't so odious, I'm just not okay with being bound by laws that my representatives didn't have a hand in making |
| 19:39.20 | fadein | (even though I'm already bound by laws that lobbyists wrote...) |
| 19:43.45 | unum | it doesn't bother me so much if the actually debate them |
| 19:44.10 | unum | but Senator Bramble is trying to engage in a debate with out actually being able to discuss what's being debated..... |
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| 20:39.29 | bmurdock | ~unum++ |
| 20:39.47 | bmurdock | that's the kind of talk I came to #utah for |
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