IRC log for #utah on 20130115

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00:29.55DloHello?
00:33.02Dlosun
00:33.31Dlosyn (unautocorrected)
00:33.42DloThis is a Siri test
00:34.17jsmithHello
00:34.36jsmithDlo: IRC via Siri?
00:34.56DloThanks for the ack
00:35.18DloI just tried it. Seemed to work
00:35.37DloNever done irc from ios before
00:36.08jimayoutah: where are you moving?
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00:40.09joshhi downloaded some irc ios app called mango but have never tried it
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00:41.19tom1Mdasoh here?
00:41.28DloI'm using Colloquy. Seems ok. $1.99
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00:58.39DloThanks. Bye
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07:35.18Migsdangit
07:35.23Migswhen is this global warming going to happen?
07:35.28MigsI'm getting tired of below-freezing temperatures.
07:40.35JalenJadeMigs, the global warming is in Australia right now and the other side of the world has colder temps as a result
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13:46.53Q_ContinuumDAMNIT AUSTRALIA, STOP SUCKING UP ALL THE HEAT
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15:28.58keldwudgoozbach, your story is a nice reminder that I should start training my daughter now how to protect herself from those who abuse their authority.
15:30.52shalkieThere is a couple videos on youtube called something like "Why you should never talk the to cops without an attorney". They discuss some of the motives and techniques for interegation. I suggest watching it and then freak out.
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15:36.13keldwudshalkie: thank you for the recommendation
15:36.31keldwudshe's only four, but cops have no ethics when it comes to harassing people
15:36.46keldwudthey will do anything to escalate a situation, even if it involves destroying a child
15:37.05keldwudat the same time, I don't want to teach her to act like she doesn't trust them
15:37.09keldwudbecause that is just as bad
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17:22.53youtahJima
17:23.02youtahJima, I am moving to Lehi, behind Cabellas
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17:24.06fozzmooyoutah: Fiber connectivity FTW!
17:25.00jimalehi's got fiber?
17:27.18youtahOh yes
17:27.23youtahAwesome Fiber too
17:27.24Q_ContinuumSweet
17:27.34youtahCelery, Corn, Wheat, ....
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17:27.57Q_Continuumhahaha
17:28.19youtahit really does. If I remember correctly, it's like $55/mon for 40mbps down/up
17:28.40youtah(I could be wrong though)
17:29.56Q_ContinuumThat is acceptable!
17:30.05Q_ContinuumHeck back in MN I just wanted 5/5 or 10/10
17:30.10Q_Continuuminstead of 7/0.9
17:30.33Q_ContinuumExcept for HD content and downloading Steam games in minutes more isn't needed much
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18:25.04romanovicwould take a slight reduction in download speeds, if it allowed him to get out from under the Comcast/CenturyLink duopoly
18:26.26GateI would take a slight drop in download speed to avoid the damned 60s outages I get every night....
18:33.57romanovicGate: what isp?
18:45.42GateBaja
18:45.49Gatein St. George
18:46.02GateNobody can match their download speeds
18:47.10Gatebut I'm sick on being in the middle of a call or a game and having my connection drop
18:56.28GateI have 60mb/s, and the best I can get from any other provider (reliably) is 12mb/s
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19:01.22romanovicso, by "every night" do you mean during evening peak hours, or in the middle of the night?  And how widespread among subscribers is the problem?
19:02.59youtahromanovic agreed. That's the best part. I will not be under the Umbrella Corp anymore. Errr, comcast
19:03.12GateEvery night and random times, ranging from 5pm to 1am, random intervals, no discernable pattern
19:03.39youtahI cannot remember the providers name in Lehi.
19:03.41GateHaven't seen the same issues at other subscribers. Have removed the router and computers from the equation
19:05.31romanovicI wonder what it would take to get Utopia expanded.  I'm new to my city (Herriman), so I have no idea what city council's discussions have been over the years
19:05.49unumright now it'd be an up hill battles
19:06.00unumsubscribing cities have had to start help paying back the loans
19:06.03GateI've heard that our city council has a stick shoved so far up their nether regions that it comes down to "Internet, we have that. No thanks."
19:06.31unumshould have bought in riverton :p
19:07.59romanovicif Utopia raised money kickstarter-style, I'd pledge pretty much any amount they requested, even >$1000, if they could guarantee me an installation should their goal amount be reached.
19:10.47Gateromanovic: I would
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19:41.28youtahToday is brought to you by the letter: Nacho.
19:42.26mrklawGate: have you tried using OpenDNS or something like that? I used to have interruptions in service with Comcast and it turned out to be DNS.
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20:20.57youtahI am DYING laughing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6t-EjrtD3U
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20:49.11ezakimakbut then, i've seen the opposite about "hot" also. I'm from sacramento, and we call 95-100 merely "warm" since we're used to getting 105-110+ in the summer
20:50.17smcquayIt's rough. I moved out here partially to escape the cold, and I had to wear a jacket today. very sad.
20:50.21smcquay(or funny)
20:50.32ezakimakyou moved to utah to escape the cold??
20:50.34ezakimakfrom where?
20:50.48smcquayfrom utah recently moved to san jose
20:50.56ezakimakoh. ic.
20:51.09ezakimakwell, it's also more humid there, which makes it feel a lot colder than it really is
20:52.03smcquayand I've always been a cold wimp. should've heard me complain about the winters in UT
20:52.07ezakimakin their defense, two years ago I went in Jan to san jose, and in SLC it was about 20, and I was fine--got there and it was low 50s and actually felt colder than in SLC
20:52.48smcquayyeah, the humidity does wonders for my hair, and really cuts into you temperature-wise
20:53.42ezakimakbut again, LA still can't complain. sacramento frequently gets below freezing in the winter.
20:59.22youtahWhat I love about Utah.... Winters at -10, Summers at 110
20:59.40youtah(it hit, what, -18 degrees in Hunterville)
20:59.46youtahand last summer, it hit 117 in Moab
20:59.55youtah(if I recall correctly)
21:02.07smcquaygive me warm and sunny every day
21:07.18ezakimakthen you want san diego
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21:12.35Yorokobiwas just in SD. It was cold and rainy
21:17.54YorokobiThat being said, it is warmer there now than in Phoenix ... stupid coldest weather in 30+ years.
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21:27.34youtahYou know it's cold when Saint George dips into the 20's
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21:33.28Gatemrklaw: I've changed DNS providers, trying openDNS and Google's DNS. The problem is that persistent connections such as games and voip which shouldn't be doing DNS are dying.
21:34.11Gateyoutah: it was 11 this morning, from what I hear
21:34.23Gate15 when I went to work yesterday
21:34.36Gate(I live in St. George, which is why this is relevant)
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21:43.25youtahyeah, not this morning, yesterday morning
21:43.37youtahOh, you mean in Saint George?
21:44.38youtahholy crap!
21:44.58youtahscanned Gate's messages too fast
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21:45.51sshawsomeone at work is asking about NAS systems and came across freenas... what's the current recommendations?
21:49.09tristanbob_wthe other popular free ones are openfiler and nexenta (up to 18 TB)
21:50.25sshawthis is for home, so not tons of HDD space, but it will be streaming media
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21:51.48Gateyoutah: one of my co-workers said it was 11 when we left his house
21:52.09Gateit was 15 when I left mine
21:55.10youtah19 at the SLC airport
21:55.29youtah60% humidity though, which makes it feel colder I guess
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22:06.21Q_ContinuumIf its dry it dries you out too so that sucks more
22:12.24HumanCellIt's supposed to warm up to 32F later this week! :-)
22:13.49youtahyeah, I've had a bloody nose every day the last week
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22:17.22ezakimakso i'm not the only one. i used to get one every few weeks when i first moved here
22:29.11GateI've had the first one in years, lasted for over a week :( stupid cold
22:44.56ezakimakwouldn't you bleed out?
22:45.48fozzmooI had several bloody noses in a row a couple weeks ago.
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22:57.33Jayce^whole house humidifier really helps
23:07.03fozzmooWe've considered that. Even got prices.
23:20.34GateJust what I need, my house to ooze fluid *another* way
23:27.14sshawJayce^: are you talking about the humidifiers that attach to the furnace?
23:28.33fozzmooYeah, that's what he's talking about.
23:29.15fozzmooThey basically add humidity to the air being pushed by your furnace through the ductwork.
23:29.32stderr-Jayce^: you a registered member of utahgunexchange.com yet.  Got a good giveaway to all registered members.
23:31.34Gatestderr-: holy shit, 50 .223 mags
23:31.42Gates/50/\$50/
23:32.37stderr-welcome to the new reality
23:32.42Gateyeah, no kidding
23:33.26fozzmooCrazy.
23:34.50Q_ContinuumShit, now I really wish I'd finished my build and parts procurement last year >.<
23:35.22GateYeah, I went to stock up on a few extra mags and I couldn't find pmags anywhere
23:36.01sshawfozzmoo: Jayce^ I've heard that those kind can possibly lead to mold and other problems? I have one in my town home, but have never tried it out
23:36.39fozzmooThere are a couple different kinds. (The expensive kind and the really expensive kind.)
23:37.07GateSo was this site built in response to KSL pulling their gun ads, or is it older than that?
23:37.08fozzmooI understand the less expensive kind can lead to uneven moisture buildup.
23:37.11stderr-Gate: thankfully I have like 40 pmags that I bought on a sale about two years ago
23:37.14Q_ContinuumGate: Stock up?  I have none for the half-built one at home >.<
23:37.19Jayce^stderr-: yeah, actually sold one through there already :)
23:37.20fozzmooGate: It was set up as a response to KSL.
23:37.26fozzmooThe other site is utahguns.com
23:37.30Jayce^sshaw: depends on the type, there are a few varieties
23:37.30Gatestderr-: yeah, I only havea few
23:37.37fozzmooI haven't decided which is better. They're both vying for top dog position.
23:37.43GateQ_Continuum: yeah, you might want to finish that.....
23:37.51GateBEFORE it becomes illegal to try ;)
23:37.54Q_ContinuumGate: Gotta settle on the upper.
23:37.55Q_ContinuumHave the lower.
23:37.56stderr-Jayce^: nice, I'm considering selling one of my AR-15s but they're hard to part with
23:37.59Q_Continuumand a basic parts kit
23:38.24Jayce^stderr-: I know, I had just been looking at an fn before the crap hit the fan, now there is no chance for a new one
23:38.28fozzmooI'm kicking myself for having not bought one when they weren't ridiculously inflated
23:39.51GateYeah, my gun was bought during the last big inflation. My previous rifle had an.... accident.... in Oct. 2008.
23:40.06GateSo my rifle is worth what I paid for it now!
23:42.13GateI'm surprised pistol prices haven't followed AR prices up, after what came out about that senate bill
23:45.03stderr-Jayce^: yup, I've just resigned myself to buying a new hunting rifle
23:45.33stderr-although my wife has given me the hate glare because I got so many guns for Xmas.  Taking the Marlin 336 to Florida this spring for hog hunting on a friend's property near Orlando.
23:46.37GateYeah, I'm debating my budget. So many things I was planning on getting over the next few years that might be illegal
23:47.37GateA proper 1911, a 7.62x39 rifle, a decent composite 9mm with large mag capacity. Sight.
23:47.49Gate*Sigh
23:49.21stderr-I doubt any of those will be illegal
23:51.53stderr-picking up some hi cap 9mm mags and 7.62 mags might be a good idea though.  
23:52.53GateYeah, but a pistol grip 7.62 might be.
23:52.59stderr-I've been purchasing many a handgun mag even at the insane prices because I was pretty low on them to begin with and it's certainly possibly they'll start banning anything over 10 or whatever retarded number they come up with
23:53.25stderr-eh, doubtful.  I don't see 1986-style AWB getting through Congress.
23:53.45Gatestderr-: you trust our congress far more than I do.
23:53.48stderr-my lack of paranoia may be because I'm set on things like that though :P  But I honestly don't see it happening
23:54.10Gatestderr-: And banning things by executive order has legal and practical precident.
23:55.37fozzmooI know NY is bizarro-world but I'm still a little shocked by the fact both my Ruger 10/22 and my XDm 9 are "illegal" under their ban.
23:56.13GateMost of my existing equipment is illegal in California. I don't *own* a mag less than 12rd for my Sig.
23:59.26stderr-Gate: Obama isn't going to ban anything via executive order.

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