IRC log for #utah on 20071027

00:00.42maquisSupaplex: don't fleabay them... sell them on amazon! :)
00:02.25nick125yay for amazon
00:02.46nick125I can get bottles of torani syrup on amazon for $3 cheaper than in town.
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00:03.22Njalistyo
00:05.57findlay~yo
00:05.57ibotYo wazzaaaap my brotha?!
00:06.07findlayscrollback
00:06.12Njalistwhats new in utah
00:06.28findlaycomet Holmes
00:06.29Supaplexelectricity
00:06.37findlaymagnitude 2
00:06.52Njalistany womens?
00:07.06findlaythere's no womens in Utah
00:07.14Njalistoh well
00:07.23Njalistat byu?
00:07.42findlayBYU just has silly freshman girls
00:07.58Njalistcute and silly?
00:08.43Njalistcome on.....
00:09.19Supaplexjust drop by sometime, you'll see
00:09.24findlayfine
00:09.44Njalistew all over the floor
00:09.49Supaplex-chat byu
00:09.49bracbyu was abysmal
00:09.59findlay-chat uvsc
00:09.59bracuvsc had
00:10.06findlay-chat uvu
00:10.06bracuvu went
00:10.48Supaplexdown the tubes
00:10.59findlayyay, UVU is on the tubes!
00:11.09Njalistmy bro is in prvo
00:11.31Supaplexis that a smaller version of provo?
00:11.45NjalistI think so
00:11.47findlayoptimised
00:11.47Supaplexlike provo, without all the crazy people
00:12.31findlaylooks like I'm not in prvo
00:12.49Njalistare you a cute womens?
00:12.50Supaplexi'm not in prvo either
00:13.32Supaplexone personality per woman is plenty, isn't it? Who'd want two?
00:14.00Njalisttrue
00:14.08findlayall cute womens are imported but they go home on the weekends
00:14.14Njalistlol
00:14.23Njalistwhere are they?
00:14.28findlayand I remain
00:15.13SupaplexI think there's a song about that Njalist. "where are they?" like where did they all go.. or something.
00:15.39NjalistWell if you see any tell me
00:16.30Supaplexdating, now with irc. =%-D
00:16.45Njalisthah hah, i need a bar
00:17.27maquis-chat
00:17.28bracyou're too young to do once I get that I want help with my own music with the intention to be a bit bouncier than this." MP3 player: "Here, have some kind of like an upload and manage an email .. but running it if you need to first hop,
00:17.51Njalistodd
00:18.56findlay~date
00:18.56ibotIt is now 2007.10.27  0:18:56 GMT
00:19.16Njalistwrong kind of date
00:19.34findlay-chat date
00:19.34bracdate had somehow been set again.
00:19.41maquis~date findlay
00:19.42ibotyou date findlay
00:19.46findlayheh
00:19.58Njalistdo another one
00:19.59maquisibot: after you...
00:20.08maquis~lart Njalist
00:20.09ibotslaps Njalist upside the head with a wet fish
00:20.16findlaynow now, maquis
00:20.24Njalistweak
00:20.32maquis~whaleslap Njalist
00:20.32ibotACTION beats Njalist upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
00:20.33findlay~bzfrag Njalist
00:20.33ibotACTION squishes Njalist with a steamroller
00:20.43findlay~whalepunt maquis
00:20.43ibotACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts maquis across the Pacific
00:20.48Njalistnope, but good cetid
00:20.49maquis~whaleparry findlay
00:20.49ibotACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry findlay's attacks.
00:21.31findlay~say -chat ~whalenuke
00:21.32ibot-chat ~whalenuke
00:21.35brac~whalenuke was
00:21.36ibotACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around was with his mind powers
00:21.51Njalistmuch better
00:22.07maquis-chat
00:22.07bracstab the telco carrier is the One she gets out of live SVN...maybe that'll help
00:22.16maquis-chat about Njalist is
00:22.16bracNjalist is
00:22.25maquis~gender Njalist
00:22.25ibotI heard Njalist is lesbian.
00:22.34maquisno wonder she's asking about cute girls....
00:22.34Njalistvery true
00:22.34Supaplex-chat ~mmorpg
00:22.37brac~mmorpg went
00:22.37ibotACTION fires off a few Massively Mobile Offensive Rocket Propelled Grenades at went for a total of 678 damage!
00:22.50findlay~nickometer Supaplex
00:22.57Njalistlok
00:23.16Njalistwww.freetalklive.com
00:23.25Njalistplug of the day
00:26.40Njalistgood stuff, eh?
00:28.42Tenehttp://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cpg/460249817.html
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01:39.27elg*grumble* the plumber that put in our new water heater (the old one was literally rusting through) either didn't adjust the thermostat to a reasonable level, or set it improperly
01:42.18Supaplexso it's super chilled? or boils right out of the tap?
01:43.02elghave to turn it almost completely hot in the shower to get warm water
01:43.11elgand it doesn't last long
01:43.15elgwouldn't call it superchilled though
01:43.46elgi can't figure out how to turn off the power to the water heater, which is on a different meter
01:44.10elgso I can't get into the panel to adjust the thermostat. (at least, it has danger, you will die messages that tell me not to)
01:45.10Supaplexhehehe nice
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04:10.53Supaplex~lart ichat for deep sixing jabber messages
04:10.53ibotchops ichat in half with a free AOL CD for deep sixing jabber messages
04:14.10Supaplexapparently ichat doesn't play nice receiving anything from another presense from the same jabber id it's logged in as.
04:42.44tensaiTene: yeah, I saw that one earlier today. I actually did laugh out loud.
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04:48.51sontekhow do you get the factinfo on the action factoids
04:48.58sonteklike ~beat
04:49.23sontekI know you can say ~factinfo beat but thats not the same as ~beat <user>
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04:56.32Tene~factinfo beat $user
04:56.32ibotthere's no such factoid as beat $user, Tene
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05:03.20tensai~factinfo beat (.*?)
05:03.20ibottensai: there's no such factoid as beat (.*?)
05:04.31sontek~literal beat sontek
05:04.32ibotACTION beats sontek with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish
05:04.38sontekhmm
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05:22.23fozzmooHey Lakshmi
05:22.33Lakshmifozzmoo!
05:22.35Lakshmisup?
05:22.43fozzmoo~onjoin Lakshmi LAKSHMI!!!!
05:22.43ibotok, fozzmoo
05:23.02fozzmooOh... let
05:23.08fozzmooOh... let's see...
05:23.21fozzmooI had the day off today.
05:23.30Lakshmisounds fun did u do anything with it?
05:23.31fozzmooBut I ended up working at least half of it anyway. :)
05:23.41fozzmooWent and got flu shots for the family.
05:23.42Lakshmiure such a good employee
05:23.50fozzmooThat was SO fun!
05:23.51Lakshmithats useful
05:24.49fozzmooI just uploaded something to Youtube. :)
05:25.02fozzmooAs soon as it becomes available, I'll let you know.
05:25.24Lakshmisounds goo d
05:25.27Lakshmii went shopping
05:25.31Lakshmiwith my friends
05:25.36Lakshmier well one friend
05:25.40Lakshmiand we went to a restaurant
05:25.45fozzmooWhat restaurant?
05:25.58Lakshmiquestion is apple releasing some new technology today?
05:26.10fozzmooNo idea.
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05:26.24Lakshmiandale or something, they ended up doing something to cause the power to go down
05:26.48Lakshmioh cause there were HUGE lines
05:26.53Lakshmiin front of the apple store today
05:27.01Lakshmilike HUGE
05:27.09Lakshmiand i was wondering what they were standing in line for
05:27.18fozzmooYeah? I have no idea. I've never been an Apple guy.
05:27.24Lakshmicause it wasnt some like 'get this free!' promotion
05:27.25Lakshmiso idk
05:27.42Lakshmime neither
05:27.47Lakshmibut i have an ipod
05:27.51Lakshmiand i use itunes and such
05:27.53Lakshmiso..
05:28.14fozzmoo... a lot more of an Apple person than me. :)
05:32.50fozzmoohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJXhE0OpY
05:32.56Tenewhat is it?
05:34.01fozzmooTene: It's GARY SMITH!
05:34.16Tenecar guy?
05:34.33fozzmoouh huh
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06:47.45Lakshmiimho people should not cover the beatles
06:50.18fozzmooBecause...?
06:50.43Lakshmithey all fail at it
06:50.50fozzmooheh.
06:50.52Lakshmidid you watch across the universe?
06:51.01fozzmooNo. Never heard of it.
06:51.08Lakshmithe new musical/movie thats sout
06:51.11Lakshmioh
06:51.12fozzmooI'm not a big fan of the band.
06:51.14Lakshmilook it up
06:51.27Lakshmiits a whole bunch of people attempting to cover the beatles
06:51.32fozzmooHuh.
06:51.37Lakshmiits depressing
06:51.47Lakshmipeople should jus not cover other bands
06:51.49fozzmooI think it's probably the same for any wildly successful group.
06:51.50fozzmooheh.
06:51.54fozzmooLakshmi: That's silly.
06:51.59Lakshmihow is that silly?
06:52.07Lakshmiwhy cant they come up with original material?
06:52.19Lakshmior IF they cover stuff
06:52.25Lakshmibe Good at it'
06:52.35Lakshmiah heh.
06:52.48fozzmooI understand what you're saying...
06:53.08Lakshmii jus really like the beatles
06:53.17Lakshmiso hearing bad covers of it
06:53.19Lakshmimakes me sad
06:53.21fozzmooand I have a difficult time understanding people who's life is all about tribute to one band.
06:53.34Tene~lart confusing lenovo order page
06:53.35ibotstrangles confusing lenovo order page with a 9-pole serial cable
06:53.36fozzmooSons Of Nothing always saw the Pink Floyd thing as a vehicle to market their original music.
06:53.51Lakshmiah thats cool
06:54.14fozzmooA lot of cover bands try to make it a charades type thing...
06:54.29fozzmoowhere they have to imitate the original band.
06:54.32fozzmooI think that's a bit silly.
06:54.46fozzmooMaybe it's necessary for a musical act that is all about looks.
06:54.53TeneThe main order page doesn't have any alternative battery options, but then the accessories page offers an additional 9-cell battery.
06:54.56Lakshmimhm
06:55.02Lakshmiwell idk thats what i mean like if ure gunna cover something
06:55.09Lakshmimake it good
06:55.15fozzmooI think it's kind of silly when there are tributes for bands that are still touring.
06:55.20Lakshmior come up with your own unique version
06:55.26Lakshmibut make it good
06:55.42Lakshmiwell they need ot make a living too...
06:55.43Supaplex-chat music
06:55.43bracmusic did
06:56.01fozzmooKeep in mind that a lot of  symphonies today are basically tribute bands covering classical composers' stuff.
06:56.06fozzmooI think we'll continue to see that.
06:56.07Supaplex-chat
06:56.09bracI'll be in ~/.config/
06:56.18TeneAs far as I can tell, it's an additional replacement battery, so I'd have a spare 6-cell battery just laying around.
06:56.28fozzmooTene: you're replacing your HP? Already?
06:56.41Tenefozzmoo: It's died on me three times so far.
06:56.45fozzmooEwww.
06:56.51fozzmooThat sucks.
06:56.54TeneHP takes three weeks to replace the motherboard and wipe the hard drive and send it back.
06:57.02fozzmooYou should get HP to just give you your money back.
06:57.02Supaplexouch
06:57.23fozzmooI've been thinking about getting a T61p... but then Lamont showed me his new HP.
06:57.32fozzmooNow I'm torn.
06:57.44TeneWhat do you like about his HP?
06:57.52Lakshmiwell fozzmoo orchestras ussually change it up slightly so its betterish and stuffs
06:57.53fozzmoogazillion hours of battery...
06:58.00fozzmooand AMD CPU.
06:58.00TeneI'm not inclined to trust another HP for quite a while.
06:58.09Lakshmiplus those composers died
06:58.12fozzmooTene: That's understandable. I haven't had those kinds of issues.
06:58.18Lakshmisome of the tribute bands the original bands are still alive
06:58.21Tenefozzmoo: you can get the superbay battery for the t61p
06:58.24Lakshmiand such
06:58.34fozzmooTene: Didn't know that.
06:58.43Tenethat + 9-cell leads to pretty significant battery life, I'm told.
06:59.16fozzmooIf KB buys me a laptop, it's probably going to be a Dell because of partnerships we've got with them. :-/
06:59.36Supaplex~convert a gazillion hours to days
06:59.51fozzmooheh
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14:23.14bracohh sessy
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14:31.11vontrappwhy does ps sometimes not return things it should?
14:31.36vontrappps | grep foo returns false 1 times out of 10 when foo really is running
15:02.40elgmaybe the process doesn't match ps's criteria with no arguments
15:34.38sontekyou should try using pgrep
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16:05.50bonez39good morning
16:06.04klysgood morning, bonez
16:12.44bonez39at the risk of numerous flames and derision...I need help sending out HTML email (yeah, I know, satanic, evil, wicked....etc.etc.etc) but this is email which clients have specifically requested...I run debian sarge on this box...I have tried opening the doc with oowriter...and then sending from it, but it too wants to send as an attachment...help....
16:18.26bonez39dang...
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16:26.47bonez39how do I always ask questions that shut channels down?
16:47.28bonez39anyone?
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17:06.52vontrappyeah
17:06.55vontrappoops
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18:47.26bonez39I want to create an archive 'lytec_271007.tgz
18:47.40bonez39from files in /usr/archive/lytec/   all files in that folder...  
18:48.56bonez39I try 'tar zcvf lytec_271007.tar.gz /usr/archive/lytec/* and it failes....tells me tar: lytec_271007.tar.gz: Cannot open: Permission denied and then tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now and finally tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
18:51.16bonez39shhhhhhhhhh, just one at a time PLEASE.....
18:51.26TeneHeh.
18:51.35bonez39Hello Tene
18:51.53Tenethe user you are creating the tar as doesn't have permission to write to the current directory
18:51.57Supaplexbonez39: try touch lytec_271007.tar.gz
18:51.59Tenetry:
18:52.19bonez39scott@fyrenice:/usr/archive$ touch lytec_271007.tar.gz
18:52.19bonez39touch: cannot touch `lytec_271007.tar.gz': Permission denied
18:52.27Tenecd /usr/archive; tar -cvzf ~/lytec_271007.tar.gz lytec/ ; cd ~
18:52.32bonez39that's the result...I have permissions in /usr/archive...
18:52.36bonez39I don't get it
18:52.55Supaplexbonez39: what's ls -ld ./    show?
18:52.58Tenewhat directory are you in?  run 'pwd' to find out.
18:53.18bonez39scott@fyrenice:/usr/archive$ ls -ld ./
18:53.18bonez39drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2007-05-03 10:19 ./
18:53.28bonez39scott@fyrenice:/usr/archive$ pwd
18:53.28bonez39/usr/archive
18:53.41Supaplexbonez39: scott has no rights. try sudo tar ...
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18:54.00Tenebonez39: try what I suggested.
18:54.19bonez39Supaplex: ok, that got it going..why wouldn't I have rights there...that's weird
18:55.09Supaplexbonez39: do you want the tarball saved in /usr/archive? - root owns that directory. gid root has no write permissions, and others also have no write permission.
18:55.47bonez39Supaplex: oh....that must be why then..I dont' care where the archive is stored,, just know I don't want it in /usr/archive/lytec....
18:56.00Supaplexdrwxr-xr-x as owner.  drwxr-xr-x as group.  drwxr-xr-x as others.
18:56.17bonez39I had rdiff-backup set up at one time..and it would archive my stuff out every night..I guess i need to get it set back up....
18:56.18Supaplexthen either cd somewhere else :)
18:56.43Supaplexs/either //
18:57.02bonez39ok
18:57.05bonez39thanks...
18:57.32Supaplextar -C <where>  can be handy sometimes, but we'll "Keep It Simple ... for now. :)
18:58.05Supaplexs/ for/" for/
19:02.39LakshmiSupaplex!
19:03.44Supaplexfinest greetings to you Lakshmi :)
19:03.51Supaplexhow are you today anyhow?
19:04.26Lakshmipretty good
19:04.35Lakshmii havent had weird ppl come up ot me in the lobby
19:04.39Lakshmiso im pretty good
19:04.46Lakshmiim fixing my face
19:04.49Lakshmiyou?
19:06.42Supaplexreassembling a Nikon speedlight sb600 camera flash my friend b0ked
19:07.57Supaplexnone of the xenon bulbs I have are up to snuff. the best one I have, has tube crackling of the glass with some 50 test fires later.
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19:21.44Lakshmiah sounds uh fun
19:23.50Supaplexmore fun now my recall of where these screws serves me right.
19:24.06SupaplexI forgot to document where some of them went :P
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20:23.12Supaplexpmcnabb: hello Peter :)
20:23.41pmcnabbI am just pmcnabb
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20:59.40Supaplexwill imapsync delete files on another host (eg, host1) when they are deleted (from host2)?
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21:51.27nick125Anyone here have any opinions between Poptop/PPTP and OpenVPN?
21:54.06Supaplexvpn > pptp
21:54.19SupaplexI think anyway...
21:55.37nick125The only thing that's kind of nice about PPTP is that it has much more support than OpenVPN (for example, I can get a PPTP client for my Treo)
21:58.35nick125I wish there was a portable OpenVPN client for win32.
21:58.57nick125That would work on machines without admin priviledges.
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22:23.25Supaplexnick125: anything on portableapps.com or related sites? (my neighbor is big into that site)
22:23.43nick125Supaplex: Nope, nothing. I'm thinking of just doing SSH + SOCKS for now.
22:24.02Supaplexssh -D ftw :)
22:24.25Supaplexworks great on UTA :)
22:27.00nick125Yeah....least this way, I can browse from public hosts without having to worry about someone sniffing my traffic.
22:27.36Supaplexyuppers. I do it because their proxy server is too lagg0rthargic
22:27.54nick125haha
22:28.26nick125I hate overzealous web filters.
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23:40.11nick125Anyone here play with pam_usb + LDAP?
23:40.49Supaplex_usb eh?
23:41.04Supaplexusb proximity key or something?
23:41.56nick125It's where you can use a USB key for either authentication or two-factor authentication.
23:49.00vontrappwhat's  the shortcut key for pasting in X?
23:49.09Supaplexshift+insert?
23:49.29vontrappcool
23:49.42Supaplexmiddle click, or simiulated middle click should work to :)
23:51.11Supaplexanyone know where to get custom printed tshirts for a good deal at?
23:52.08vontrappyeah, i love the middle click, but sometimes when your not already using the mouse and it's not even in the right place already...
23:53.10vontrappi think cafepress does custom stuff
23:53.37vontrappthey might reserve the right to sell your design en masse, not sure
23:54.24vontrappyeah, they do custom
23:55.00vontrappwhy did gimp open location break?
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23:57.14vontrappi like gimps new crop tool
23:58.22Supaplexaoohhh I <3 it!
23:58.30vontrapp:)
23:58.56Supaplexit took me about 22ms to go from facination to pure <3 ;)

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