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| 01:23.33 | nick125 | only audio? :( |
| 01:24.08 | nick125 | herlo: The ldap thing sounds interesting though, do you know if there will be a recording? |
| 01:25.49 | herlo | nick125: its being streamed... |
| 01:25.58 | herlo | nick125: go to the link, you can join in right now |
| 01:26.26 | nick125 | I'm getting connection refused. |
| 01:28.06 | nick125 | On the icecast server |
| 01:28.11 | herlo | nick125: I noticed, hold on |
| 01:28.17 | nick125 | ah, k. |
| 01:28.55 | nick125 | It'd be cool to do video over icecast...I've thought of doing that before, it'd be neat. |
| 01:35.20 | herlo | try it again |
| 01:35.31 | herlo | nick125: doing that would be good, it comes down to bandwidth |
| 01:35.51 | nick125 | connection refused |
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| 01:41.11 | herlo | still working on it |
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| 01:42.05 | nick125 | Just wondering, what version of icecast? |
| 01:42.33 | herlo | 2 |
| 01:42.44 | herlo | go look at the site, I'm busy working on it sorry... |
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| 02:34.25 | levi | Whee, finally got my lawn mowed. |
| 02:34.38 | levi | And, I ate a really yummy peach. |
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| 02:35.37 | tensai | levi: just don't confuse those two. not good for you nor the peach. |
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| 02:51.21 | levi | tensai: What's wrong with mowing a peach, eh? Maybe its fuzz was a little long. |
| 02:53.08 | tensai | with a mini-mower maybe, but not a regular lawn mower |
| 02:54.10 | levi | Well, the really bad thing would be trying to eat the lawn. |
| 02:59.45 | tensai | thus, bad for peach and bad for you |
| 03:00.28 | tensai | I love peach season. we buy a few boxes of utah peaches and boy oh boy are they tasty. |
| 03:06.35 | levi | Yeah. These are from a farmer's market. |
| 03:15.16 | vontrapp | -lart fuzzbut |
| 03:15.25 | vontrapp | s/t/tt/ |
| 04:00.29 | elg | -markov |
| 04:00.29 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help markov' |
| 04:00.39 | elg | -chat the last |
| 04:00.39 | brac | the last 50 or so my company make money off leasing out your ballot with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't break existing dialplans |
| 04:02.38 | Supaplex | *yawn8 |
| 04:09.45 | levi | Crazy, Dan Ingalls & co. rebuilt a Squeak-like system on top of Javascript in a web browser: http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/ |
| 04:09.53 | brac | [Sun Labs Lively Kernel] |
| 04:12.03 | fozzmoo | Great. More crap for my kids to mess with. |
| 04:15.32 | Supaplex | I guess they got bored of java. ;) |
| 04:15.32 | levi | Current javascript and SVG systems are a bit lacking, so it's not very speedy right now. |
| 04:15.48 | levi | research.sun.com does lots of non-java things. |
| 04:16.04 | levi | There's a reason it's called research. |
| 04:17.00 | fozzmoo | Well, this certainly reinforces the line that we increasingly use computers to do things which, by yesterday's standards, are ridiculous and absurd things to be doing with computers. :) |
| 04:18.22 | Supaplex | indeed. |
| 04:18.44 | Supaplex | let's compare a mac classic and a simple text editor, to ... |
| 04:19.34 | fozzmoo | Even word processing is an absurd thing to do with computers when you consider the timesharing systems used in the 60s and 70s. |
| 04:20.47 | Supaplex | tell us all about it |
| 04:22.00 | fozzmoo | hehheh. |
| 04:22.22 | levi | I never used them, but I hear stories all the time of getting computer time in the early AM hours since it was cheaper, and submitting programs as large stacks of cards. |
| 04:22.46 | levi | Not really the sort of interface that would be useful for word processing. :) |
| 04:23.02 | fozzmoo | http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/dispensation/future.html |
| 04:23.28 | fozzmoo | I wrote that 11 years ago and *it* seems so dated. |
| 04:24.00 | levi | . o O (I don't think 'dwarved' is a word) |
| 04:25.35 | fozzmoo | It is now. |
| 04:25.37 | fozzmoo | I used it. |
| 04:25.40 | fozzmoo | It's a word. |
| 04:25.41 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 04:26.14 | levi | Too much D&D, apparently. ;) |
| 04:27.04 | levi | "Today, 28,800 baud modems are often more affordable than a 1200 baud modem was then." Hah! Those were the days... |
| 04:27.25 | fozzmoo | yep. |
| 04:27.41 | fozzmoo | The pre-broadband daze. |
| 04:29.06 | Supaplex | my box of v.92 modems says otherwise. I say it's v.92, not 28.8k :) |
| 04:29.23 | fozzmoo | We should make an ibot action/verbof that. |
| 04:29.52 | vontrapp | ~dwarve fozzmoo |
| 04:30.03 | vontrapp | sound french |
| 04:31.55 | vontrapp | i love how the complex here gives you ONE DAY notice to have your vehicles cleared out of a certain parking lot for a DANCE PARTY |
| 04:32.00 | vontrapp | and you get towed if you don't move it |
| 04:32.10 | vontrapp | what if someone's out of town? |
| 04:33.11 | fozzmoo | My 9 yr-old daughter was begging my wife to let her accompany us to my wife's company's Christmas party this year. |
| 04:33.32 | fozzmoo | We were explaining to her that children aren't invited... |
| 04:33.32 | vontrapp | when she went she got bored out of her mind? |
| 04:33.44 | fozzmoo | and that she wouldn't really like it anyway. |
| 04:33.45 | vontrapp | or she got completely wasted? |
| 04:34.01 | fozzmoo | So, she said, "So, do you just party all night?" |
| 04:34.18 | fozzmoo | My wife and I were laughing for a good long time at that one. |
| 04:34.44 | fozzmoo | Sorenson Communications' parties are pretty tame. |
| 04:35.38 | fozzmoo | Buffet at LIttle America, followed by cheesy song by hired entertainers all translated into sign by a dozen or so interpreters in the room. |
| 04:39.27 | sontek | at Orchid our Christmas parties end with a game we call "Its your turn to take a shot" |
| 04:47.28 | Supaplex | humm. awesome. create a cloned cups instance of a printer for alternate preferences/settings, and lpr -P that ... |
| 04:49.00 | Supaplex | now I can print the 43 remaining rebates in this batch. I <3 my duplexer. |
| 04:55.46 | vontrapp | duplexer? |
| 04:56.01 | vontrapp | so i could like have delorean and delorean-bw? |
| 04:56.18 | Supaplex | printing on both sides of the dead tree |
| 04:56.23 | vontrapp | aah |
| 04:56.38 | vontrapp | how does that work out with coupons? |
| 04:58.03 | Supaplex | the rebate centers I've dealt with lately allow you prefill the form online. then you print the confirmation page. the barcode speeds their entry and accuracy, because handwriting becomes a non issue (unless the postmaster can't decide where your envelope should go) |
| 04:58.09 | Supaplex | but I print those to. |
| 04:58.53 | vontrapp | i mean the duplex thing |
| 04:59.32 | Supaplex | it prints the same. why would coupons be that special? |
| 04:59.51 | vontrapp | Supaplex: you do a blog? |
| 04:59.51 | vontrapp | i'm asking why would you have double sided coupons |
| 05:00.01 | vontrapp | how would you then "cut them out" |
| 05:00.11 | Supaplex | I never said I had double sided coupons. |
| 05:00.35 | vontrapp | anyway, you should blog about the cloned cups thing |
| 05:00.48 | Supaplex | yeah I should. :) |
| 05:00.48 | vontrapp | so i can come back to it later when i'm not on a project deadline |
| 05:01.25 | vontrapp | you on planet utah? |
| 05:01.26 | Supaplex | I'm not into a heavy blog solution. I want it quick, and a good performer. |
| 05:01.36 | Supaplex | no |
| 05:01.38 | vontrapp | oh, don't have one yet |
| 05:01.51 | Supaplex | still deciding :) |
| 05:02.02 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 05:02.36 | vontrapp | although if you like mine you can have it |
| 05:03.04 | vontrapp | it's starved for attention (the codebase) so maybe you could give it some loving care and i can pull back from you :) |
| 05:03.22 | Supaplex | what's it written in? |
| 05:03.25 | vontrapp | rails |
| 05:03.45 | Supaplex | my friend and I had a draft of "ramus" we never pushed along... |
| 05:03.57 | vontrapp | what's that? |
| 05:04.14 | Supaplex | in short, a cms |
| 05:04.22 | vontrapp | kk |
| 05:04.28 | Supaplex | we wanted a cms that... isn't in our face. |
| 05:04.33 | vontrapp | i wrote one before i learned rails |
| 05:04.48 | vontrapp | called it rupple or ruppies or something like that |
| 05:04.58 | Supaplex | cool. |
| 05:05.24 | vontrapp | it was more just a template engine |
| 05:05.27 | klys | zme still here looking at IMG_0559 |
| 05:06.24 | klys | hey |
| 05:06.24 | Supaplex | klys: I haven't fired it up yet. sorry :) |
| 05:06.45 | klys | thx for the support |
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| 05:07.17 | vontrapp | what's this img thing? |
| 05:07.42 | klys | how would drupal be too ui-centric?? |
| 05:07.50 | klys | s/??/?/ |
| 05:07.51 | Supaplex | vontrapp: http://armada.daxal.com/~supaplex/ebay/ under at ... motherboards... |
| 05:08.20 | Supaplex | I dunno... |
| 05:11.16 | levi | My blog is written in Common Lisp. It's really fast, because it keeps everything in RAM. |
| 05:11.29 | levi | Of course, I haven't written a blog entry in a very long time. |
| 05:11.57 | levi | And its speed is of little benefit, since no one reads it. :) |
| 05:12.06 | klys | your .plan ? |
| 05:12.53 | Supaplex | klys: humm... yeahhh... I like the idea. |
| 05:14.12 | levi | Anyone here selling an entry-level electric guitar? |
| 05:16.23 | klys | levi: I'd find you a quote, though you turned down the last one (quiet power) |
| 05:16.39 | levi | klys: What? |
| 05:16.58 | levi | I don't recall turning something down. |
| 05:16.59 | klys | I had a quote |
| 05:18.05 | Supaplex | klys: learn from levi. he's deaf. keep it down. ;) |
| 05:18.13 | levi | A quote on an electric guitar? A quote about blogs? |
| 05:18.29 | klys | I see |
| 05:18.50 | levi | My hearing's fine, I just need more context. |
| 05:21.14 | levi | I just want to know what kind of quote I allegedly turned down. |
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| 05:22.34 | klys | info, $67+ |
| 05:28.08 | levi | Could you perhaps use more than the absolute minimum number of words? I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to tell me. |
| 05:28.15 | levi | What does 'info' refer to? |
| 05:29.11 | Tene | If it's not understandable to you, it's below the absolute minimum... |
| 05:29.14 | klys | info, $67+8.94 |
| 05:30.01 | klys | $67+8.94 power supply, quiet |
| 05:31.51 | levi | Ahh! A quote on a power supply. I didn't see that earlier (probably closed my laptop and came back hours later) but at least I know what you're talking about now. |
| 05:34.25 | levi | I would prefer to buy a guitar from someone I trust who could vouch for its quality rather than some random source. |
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| 05:36.38 | levi | $67 sounds like a reasonable price for the power supply I need, but it's not a priority for me right now. |
| 05:37.08 | levi | I've got to pull some network cables and move computers around before I'll even have a place to set up the computer it's meant for. |
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| 05:43.29 | levi | (format nil "Ow!") |
| 05:44.12 | Tene | Heh. |
| 05:44.31 | Supaplex | tr '0-4' '(' < /dev/urandom | tr '5-9' ')' | strings |
| 05:47.10 | vontrapp | Supaplex: but why? |
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| 05:53.17 | klys | shipping an electric costs $45 |
| 05:53.51 | levi | vontrapp: I assume that's supposed to be a random s-exp generator. :P |
| 05:54.24 | levi | klys: Who said anything about shipping one? |
| 05:56.02 | klys | levi: you're using online distributed media, get over it |
| 05:56.25 | klys | j/k |
| 05:57.20 | klys | call guitar center on Redwood Rd. |
| 05:58.44 | levi | Yeah, that's where I'll go if I get a new one. |
| 05:59.08 | levi | I get a discount there, which is a nice bonus. |
| 05:59.26 | klys | how |
| 05:59.33 | vontrapp | levi: i have an acoustic with no strings |
| 05:59.59 | vontrapp | i want to put strings on it and use it, but it's been two years and has yet to happen |
| 06:00.14 | levi | klys: Because I work for Harman. |
| 06:00.48 | levi | vontrapp: I'd consider an acoustic, except I just bought a nice amp at an extreme discount. |
| 06:01.12 | klys | get a pedal too |
| 06:01.51 | klys | a 1337 fX pedal |
| 06:02.05 | klys | ;) |
| 06:02.31 | levi | The amp has got some built-in effects. |
| 06:03.01 | klys | 100? |
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| 06:04.51 | levi | Well, it's got a bunch of knobs that control different aspects of the sound. |
| 06:06.54 | klys | look into the pedal |
| 06:07.01 | levi | http://www.johnson-amp.com/jt50.htm |
| 06:07.02 | brac | [Johnson Amps - Mirage JT50] |
| 06:07.34 | levi | They make a bunch of pedals in the building I work at. |
| 06:10.09 | klys | "it's got a bunch of knobs that control different aspects of the"; sounds like you haven't seen fX before. |
| 06:13.24 | levi | What is this 'fX' of which you speak, then? Is it a specific brand of pedal? |
| 06:14.37 | klys | I don't have one myself |
| 06:15.54 | klys | 100-200 guitar effects + related goodies |
| 06:16.30 | levi | I'm sure I don't need 100-200 guitar effects. |
| 06:16.58 | klys | 1/4", 1 in, 2 uut |
| 06:18.44 | klys | how's coding? |
| 06:26.14 | levi | Wow, the MSRP on this amp when it was released in July of '99 was $649. |
| 06:26.45 | levi | I got it, new in box, for $80. |
| 06:50.59 | vontrapp | who's used wake on lan? |
| 06:51.12 | vontrapp | does it work for pci network cards? |
| 06:52.20 | Supaplex | vontrapp: I have. yes, if you use the wol motherboard connector |
| 06:52.55 | vontrapp | how do i know what that is? |
| 06:53.01 | vontrapp | and how do i know if my card supports it? |
| 06:54.27 | Supaplex | it's a three pin mini connector. eaisly 1/2 the spacing of typical jumper blocks. |
| 06:54.44 | Supaplex | mine were white, but they could be other colors I suppose. |
| 07:12.48 | Supaplex | http://ln-s.net/10j2 cool. everyone has a window seat. |
| 07:12.51 | brac | [Viperjet | MKII] |
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| 12:54.51 | stuporglue | Is anyone looking for a C,Java or Perl job? Full or Part time, Full time has great benefits. In Provo. It's at Cluster Resources (http://clusterresources.com/). If I've left when you see this, send an email or IM to me, Michael Moore at stuporglue@gmail.com. |
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| 13:05.16 | sjansen | How's the pay? High six figures or low seven? |
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| 13:24.38 | stuporglue | sjansen, low seven. -- I think it's good pay. I'm happy with what I'm making. |
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| 14:55.35 | levi | Sweet, a million bucks for a part-time perl job?! ;) |
| 14:57.11 | Jayce^ | guess he's counting after the decimal :) |
| 14:57.46 | Tene | Hey, keep your parens off of our perl, lisper! |
| 14:57.50 | Kemotaha | I didn't realize the bubble was so big |
| 15:02.00 | Tene | fozzmoo: stuporglue is soliciting C, Java, or Perl employees for http://clusterresources.com/ |
| 15:02.41 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 15:02.45 | Tene | Said seven-figure pay, and levi and Jayce are discussing what he meant. |
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| 15:07.47 | levi | Tene: The Lisp-nature has already thoroughly infiltrated your precious perl. :) |
| 15:07.58 | levi | Tene: All you need now is a few more parens... |
| 15:08.42 | Tene | fozzmoo: pugs can natively use Java libraries. |
| 15:08.55 | Tene | use java:System::Something::Whatever; |
| 15:09.07 | fozzmoo | Huh. Maybe I'll use that... |
| 15:09.13 | fozzmoo | ... in 10 years or so. :-D |
| 15:09.20 | Tene | levi: Perl 6 will use fewer parens than Perl 5. |
| 15:09.37 | Jayce^ | c'mon fozz, you've been talking about your new javaness for while now |
| 15:09.47 | Tene | fozzmoo: kind of disappointing... work on pugs has been pretty dead for a while after audreyt got sick and stopped working on it. |
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| 15:09.58 | Tene | Good thing there are a few other implementations in the works. |
| 15:10.10 | elg | ~implement emcnabb |
| 15:10.17 | levi | Tene: Someday, when there's actually some stabiilty in Perl6 land. |
| 15:10.29 | levi | ~emcnabb elg |
| 15:10.56 | levi | I guess emcnabb isn't cool enough to have a bot-action named after him. ;P |
| 15:11.25 | Tene | levi: someday what when there's more stability? |
| 15:11.32 | Tene | ~levi levi |
| 15:11.32 | ibot | ACTION gives levi a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 15:11.54 | levi | Tene: The design is still in flux, isn't it? |
| 15:12.22 | Tene | levi: you gave a qualifier without saying what you're qualifying. |
| 15:12.36 | levi | I'm sure it's fine to play and do hobby programming in now, but it's probably not a good choice for a large project at the moment. |
| 15:13.35 | Tene | So you're saying "Someday <Perl 6 might be good for large serious projects>, when there's some stability in Perl6 land."? |
| 15:14.15 | levi | Mostly I was making an empty jab at Perl6, because it's fun to do. |
| 15:14.20 | Tene | Oh. |
| 15:14.29 | Tene | Weird. |
| 15:14.37 | levi | I like Perl6, in theory, better than Perl5. |
| 15:14.49 | levi | I've never actually written a Perl6 program, though. |
| 15:14.51 | atoponce | is perl 6 released? |
| 15:15.47 | Tene | There are still some changes, but they're mostly pretty minor these days. Cleanups and bug-fixes in the grammar, not additional features or significant changes. |
| 15:15.48 | levi | For some value of 'released' that includes the ability to run programs in the currently-implemented subset of whatever 'perl6' will be when it's actually officially done. |
| 15:16.18 | atoponce | is it in most distros now, or still v5? |
| 15:16.55 | Tene | atoponce: there are a couple of experimental versions in debian. |
| 15:17.02 | Tene | That's about it, afaik. |
| 15:17.09 | atoponce | cool |
| 15:17.17 | Tene | I think someone was trying to get either pugs or parrot packaged for fedora... |
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| 15:18.17 | tristanbob | I am so sick of evolution asking for my password to frequent contacts, and groupwise address book |
| 15:18.25 | tristanbob | Why can't it remember these things?!!? |
| 15:18.35 | elg | tristanbob: maybe you need more RAM |
| 15:18.47 | Tene | There are three or four bottom-up implementations being worked on right now, and at least one top-down. |
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| 15:19.07 | tristanbob | elg: your right of course - I also need to talk nicely to it |
| 15:19.23 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 15:19.23 | ibot | urinates on Jayce^ |
| 15:19.36 | Jayce^ | ~fart Keighvin |
| 15:19.37 | ibot | ACTION farts in Keighvin's general direction |
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| 15:19.54 | Keighvin | That's fair. |
| 15:20.00 | tristanbob | is there any other way to fart? |
| 15:20.10 | tristanbob | I mean, how accurate can you get? |
| 15:20.43 | Keighvin | Depends on air pressure, temperature, velocity, and turbulance at the orifice. |
| 15:20.54 | Jayce^ | "the spleen" |
| 15:20.59 | Keighvin | Best assurance is to reduce distance proximal to the target. |
| 15:21.01 | elg | if you account for draughts... |
| 15:21.25 | Keighvin | Jayce^: Yeah - a gypsy curse could definitely help. |
| 15:21.47 | Jayce^ | off course, covered wagon/fluff-n-tuck type methodologies always help |
| 15:22.35 | tristanbob | keep the sleeping bag zipped tight! |
| 15:22.49 | elg | I've always wondered how much residual leakage there is in the seconds after audible flatulence |
| 15:23.09 | goozbach | we need a study |
| 15:23.09 | goozbach | !!! |
| 15:23.18 | tristanbob | well, consider the fact that odor is caused by actual substances reaching your nose |
| 15:23.28 | goozbach | thousands of dollars donated to some college!! |
| 15:23.29 | Jayce^ | hrm, harleypig could be the offender, emcnabb the offendee ? |
| 15:23.41 | goozbach | tristanbob: I like to call them "poop particles" |
| 15:23.46 | goozbach | or "ppm" |
| 15:23.54 | goozbach | poop particulate material |
| 15:24.10 | tristanbob | I hope that is in wikipedia |
| 15:24.12 | jbellis | # rug install apache2 |
| 15:24.12 | jbellis | ERROR: 'apache2' is not available. |
| 15:24.20 | jbellis | anyone know the magic incantation to make suse stop sucking? |
| 15:24.29 | elg | rm -rf / |
| 15:24.33 | tristanbob | format c: |
| 15:24.39 | herlo | jbellis: is it suse 10.3? |
| 15:24.43 | Jayce^ | does it have some funky name? |
| 15:24.46 | herlo | jbellis: if so, use zypper |
| 15:24.56 | tristanbob | elg: how bad would you feel if someone typed that? |
| 15:25.11 | goozbach | jbellis: put in a fedora install CD, then run cat /var/log/messages > /dev/sda |
| 15:25.15 | goozbach | then run reboot -f -n |
| 15:25.22 | elg | not too bad |
| 15:25.28 | elg | it either wouldn't work (not root) |
| 15:25.36 | jbellis | herlo: thanks, zypper looks much nicer |
| 15:25.43 | elg | or they're running around as root and would totally hose their brand new distro in no time |
| 15:26.00 | herlo | jbellis: np, but that is the problem with OpenSUSE, they like to change pkg managers each release... |
| 15:26.10 | herlo | or at least *one* problem |
| 15:26.13 | tristanbob | elg: just don't put sudo in front of your joke commands - could make someone have a bad day |
| 15:26.20 | elg | yessir |
| 15:26.30 | herlo | tristanbob: you're a dork :) |
| 15:26.41 | herlo | tristanbob: that was meant with love! |
| 15:26.51 | tristanbob | elg: "I just tried the command you gave me... it doesn't look like anything is happening. Is is frozen? Maybe I'll reboot" |
| 15:27.00 | elg | if GuestWebIRCUser#3 asks a question like that, I wouldn't say it |
| 15:27.15 | tristanbob | elg: I'm only teasing |
| 15:27.16 | herlo | elg: ah, what fun is that? |
| 15:27.16 | Jayce^ | elg, but it is tristanbob .... |
| 15:27.24 | tristanbob | what is a tristanbob |
| 15:27.38 | elg | herlo: I'd tell them to try booting the computer up inside a dish of water instead |
| 15:27.49 | elg | you have to adjust these things to their level of intelligence |
| 15:27.51 | tristanbob | "have you tried booting underwater?" |
| 15:28.06 | tristanbob | that just might fix your problem |
| 15:28.09 | herlo | elg: haha, that might actually work! |
| 15:28.51 | tristanbob | does anyone know if you can overclock Dell computers? |
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| 15:29.37 | levi | tristanbob: Dell tends to give you the bare minimum of BIOS control, and I seriously doubt they include DIP switches on the board to change clock frequency. |
| 15:29.48 | levi | So, my bet is firmly on 'no' |
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| 15:30.49 | tristanbob | levi: perhaps I need to flash my bios with LinuxBios! |
| 15:31.18 | levi | tristanbob: Yeah, if Dell will give you the docs for their motherboard necessary to implement LinuxBIOS support for it! |
| 15:31.32 | levi | My bet there is also firmly on 'no' |
| 15:31.48 | tristanbob | well it is like a customized Foxconn - you are probably right |
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| 15:50.27 | decriptor_ | can someone kick decriptor |
| 15:50.54 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
| 15:51.05 | Tene | decriptor_: that won't help, as the connection will still be on the server. |
| 15:51.11 | decriptor_ | ah |
| 15:51.24 | decriptor_ | I don't know from where though |
| 15:51.25 | goozbach | decriptor_: you need to talk to nickserv and do something |
| 15:51.35 | goozbach | looks like a novell cloak |
| 15:51.52 | decriptor_ | when I lose connection it leave my nick on |
| 15:52.01 | Tene | decriptor_: it just hasn't timed out yet. |
| 15:52.08 | Tene | If you wait for a few minutes it will drop |
| 15:52.08 | Tene | or |
| 15:52.09 | decriptor_ | eah |
| 15:52.18 | Tene | /msg nickserv ghost decriptor password |
| 15:52.24 | Tene | if you're registered with nickserv. |
| 15:52.32 | goozbach | ahh yeah ghost |
| 15:52.39 | Tene | like that. :) |
| 15:52.47 | Tene | ~mock goozbach |
| 15:52.48 | ibot | ACTION pulls goozbach's pants down and shows the world goozbach's pink spotted underwear |
| 15:52.58 | goozbach | spotted, oh yeah |
| 15:53.02 | decriptor | that feels better |
| 15:54.33 | Tene | ~mogilefs |
| 15:54.42 | Tene | mogilefs looks pretty interesting. |
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| 15:56.40 | goozbach | any suggestions on really inexpensive 1-u servers/chassises |
| 15:57.04 | Tene | goozbach: pizza hut |
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| 15:57.35 | shadowwire | Klys: you here? |
| 15:58.12 | shadowwire | anyone ever play that old game on the 8088 called "Beast" |
| 15:58.43 | tensai | shadowwire: yes, a lot |
| 15:58.57 | tensai | there's a linux clone out there somewhere |
| 15:59.09 | nick125 | Tene: Wouldn't you have to worry about the box catching on fire? |
| 15:59.32 | Tene | nick125: are any of your servers hot enough to ignite cardboard? |
| 15:59.41 | shadowwire | I've been looking for this game for quite some time. any clue where I can find it? |
| 16:01.57 | nick125 | Tene: Depends. Especially if it's one of those prescotts. |
| 16:02.32 | elg | shadowwire: vontrapp wrote a clone once |
| 16:02.35 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 16:02.53 | tensai | shadowwire: I don't. it's been a while. I'm pretty sure it was a debian package when I installed it, but not positive. |
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| 16:07.18 | elg | shadowwire: looks like vontrapp is awol. This is the version of his code that I have: http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/beast.tar.gz |
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| 16:23.36 | tensai | ufu8 |
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| 16:24.46 | tensai | preston |
| 16:24.57 | tensai | iaceemfuaeivrieuromqi |
| 16:25.34 | tensai | mud8ewr9w9wsureyhchvbnn0w88C8E7Q8ehcqrrrrrrvnuaewpcmpeu8roq9el=kqw8xst |
| 16:25.35 | nick125 | I think someone broke tensai. Anyone want to fix? |
| 16:25.42 | elg | ~fix tensai |
| 16:25.42 | ibot | ACTION opens the hood of tensai , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 16:26.01 | tensai | ouy0SYDG0 |
| 16:26.11 | elg | see, now he's a random password generator |
| 16:26.24 | nick125 | awesome |
| 16:26.28 | Tene | Wait, that's my root password! |
| 16:26.38 | Tene | I mean... uh... levi's root password! |
| 16:26.50 | nick125 | ssh root@Tene |
| 16:26.54 | nick125 | whoops, wrong window |
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| 16:27.41 | tensai | RNEQ4RNVGHMUJCAICPEUDEURCNYRMCMMIEPI,OEI[ICEOMUCIE;MQEICOQ[I,ewocimreuuencvvbupwieqiw'coewurwro'mcepIEMCROC |
| 16:27.43 | nick125 | hahaahahahahahahaha |
| 16:27.57 | elg | maybe he's trying to learn dvorak |
| 16:28.30 | Tene | Does tensai have kids? |
| 16:30.27 | tensai | arg, children! |
| 16:30.46 | tensai | Tene: yes, two. this was the 5 year-old |
| 16:30.57 | Tene | ~winner tene |
| 16:30.57 | ibot | It's clear that tene has no chance of winning anything, particularly against tene or tene 's team |
| 16:31.02 | {-} | Actually, tensai is obviously learning to type Klingon in Dvorak. You can tell by the punctuation. |
| 16:33.32 | tensai | I suspected something was up when I came out of the shower and the house was eerily quiet |
| 16:33.37 | nick125 | hahaha |
| 16:33.52 | elg | your kids were sucked into the computer a la tron? |
| 16:34.06 | tensai | elg: that's it exactly |
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| 16:40.07 | findlay-1 | stupid bind |
| 16:40.10 | findlay-1 | ~lart bind |
| 16:40.10 | ibot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs bind |
| 16:40.41 | elg | beandog: is that $100 for the whole series, or $100 per season (TNG/DS9) |
| 16:40.50 | elg | er, $60 |
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| 16:43.26 | beandog | elg, season |
| 16:43.46 | graphyx | boo. |
| 16:43.50 | graphyx | what up everyone. |
| 16:43.58 | graphyx | wow 75. our numbers are growing. |
| 16:44.26 | nick125 | Well, we have some duplicates here. Like mrpull and tristanbob. |
| 16:44.51 | elg | so $420 for the whole series |
| 16:44.55 | graphyx | If I was hoping to play board games tonight and wanted to either have people at my house or go to someones house with games (Salt Lake City area) who would be interested? |
| 16:46.58 | beandog | elg, $700 |
| 16:47.09 | beandog | oh, for TNG/DS9? |
| 16:47.16 | beandog | elg, you can buy TNG for $300. A new one is coming out |
| 16:47.20 | levi | Buying Star Trek DVDs is expensive. |
| 16:47.32 | beandog | yes |
| 16:47.34 | beandog | but its worth it |
| 16:47.47 | levi | My wife might agree. |
| 16:48.01 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RZIGVS/ref=wl_it_dp/105-3909995-0854817?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3JVSI0FDRJNLX&colid=M3XN8VJSX54D |
| 16:48.04 | levi | It wouldn't be worth it to me. |
| 16:48.04 | beandog | elg, ^^ |
| 16:48.36 | levi | You can always buy the cheap Chinese versions, too.... |
| 16:48.52 | beandog | a true collector would never do such a thing |
| 16:49.02 | beandog | but yah, that is a reasonable, viable option that'll cost you at least 50% less. |
| 16:49.05 | elg | it'll be worth it to me |
| 16:49.06 | levi | True collectors are silly. |
| 16:49.16 | elg | when I cross the threshold into expendable income land |
| 16:49.23 | levi | elg: That sounds decidedly un-frugal. :) |
| 16:49.24 | beandog | Ive been known to rebuy a DVD because I liked the box art better |
| 16:49.41 | elg | well I hope to be only semi-frugal someday :) |
| 16:50.09 | levi | elg: Someday when you have a house and a brick oven in the backyard, eh? :) |
| 16:50.12 | RyanE | elg: ooh. I misread that as 'semi-fugal'. |
| 16:50.22 | elg | RyanE: that too. dna transplant |
| 16:50.26 | elg | to grow wings |
| 16:50.30 | elg | levi: exactly :) |
| 16:50.33 | {-} | elg: Admit it. You're a Fugal. You'll be earning 6 figures and acting like it's 4 figures. |
| 16:50.52 | elg | 5 figures, perhaps |
| 16:51.15 | elg | when it comes to everday things, I'll always be a cheapskate |
| 16:51.34 | elg | but there will be flying and the occasional entertainment splurge. doctor who and star trek are near the top of the latter |
| 16:52.03 | beandog | bah |
| 16:52.11 | beandog | whats that one linksys router made to run linux |
| 16:52.40 | beandog | elg, doctor who? |
| 16:52.43 | mrpull | beandog: WRT54GL |
| 16:52.57 | beandog | thats it! thanks, I was close |
| 16:53.16 | {-} | beandog: Linksys now labels them as Linux capable. There's 2 versions of the same model, one with less RAM the other is meant for Linux hackers. |
| 16:53.20 | mrpull | the L is important because there is a newer version that no longer runs linux |
| 16:53.26 | beandog | right |
| 16:53.33 | beandog | and you have to worry about the revision crap |
| 16:53.41 | beandog | WRTSL54GS is the one I actually want |
| 16:53.44 | elg | yup |
| 16:53.51 | elg | all twenty some-odd seasons |
| 16:54.23 | {-} | Linksys isn' the only one making Linux capable routers. If you've already picked your distro, be sure to check their list of supported hardware. Some is actually better than the Linksys. |
| 16:55.23 | beandog | Well this is the one Im running at home, its got a lot of space on there |
| 16:55.32 | beandog | OpenWRT + WebIf though is what Im gonna use |
| 16:56.08 | tensai | openwrt++ |
| 16:56.32 | findlay-w | so all of a sudden bind stops working |
| 16:56.52 | findlay-w | I wish it would tell me when it decides to do these things |
| 16:58.00 | tensai | findlay-w: but that would be work and it has already stopped working |
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| 17:00.52 | brasto | {-} - that user name looks like a Silon head... |
| 17:03.13 | findlay-w | tensai: I keep getting servfail on nslookups, any ideas? |
| 17:03.58 | tensai | findlay-w: well, I'm not an expert exactly. is there anything in the logs? |
| 17:04.43 | findlay-w | nothing that I can make sense of |
| 17:05.00 | findlay-w | either it says nothing or starts spewing system calls when I turn up the debugging |
| 17:09.01 | beandog | Im sure if you switched to OpenDNS then everything would just magically work |
| 17:09.27 | tensai | findlay-w: is it a caching server or authoritative? |
| 17:10.02 | findlay-w | its authoritative |
| 17:10.04 | shadowwire | Thanks Elg. |
| 17:13.15 | elg | wow, they have a linksys router specifically aimed at working with linux and not messing up revisions? |
| 17:13.24 | elg | beandog: yes, awesomest show evar |
| 17:13.44 | beandog | elg, Ive never seen it |
| 17:13.50 | beandog | elg, yah |
| 17:13.54 | elg | check your PBS listings |
| 17:14.12 | beandog | elg, I dont think Id really like it |
| 17:14.36 | beandog | I like the British comedies, but their sci-fi is a bit too weird for me. |
| 17:14.38 | JoshH | findlay-w: it works fine for a while, then bind just dies? |
| 17:14.40 | beandog | like Buck Rogers. |
| 17:14.58 | findlay-w | JoshH: it *was* working but now it doesn't |
| 17:15.35 | elg | beandog: I think you will, but I may be biased |
| 17:15.37 | tensai | findlay-w: are there any invalid zone files? |
| 17:15.44 | JoshH | so now it doesn't work at all? |
| 17:15.47 | findlay-w | tensai: looking at that now |
| 17:15.48 | elg | give it a shot. watch a tom baker (seasons 13-18) episode |
| 17:15.52 | findlay-w | JoshH: no |
| 17:15.55 | elg | if you need I can provide one for you to d/l |
| 17:15.57 | mrpull | findlay-w: is it up to date? there are lots of DOS's that kill bind |
| 17:15.59 | elg | http://kued.org/page.php?area=programs&action=viewSeriesDetails&id=17370 |
| 17:16.02 | brac | [KUED Channel 7: PROGRAMS > VIEWSERIESDETAILS] |
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| 17:16.17 | elg | looks like KUED is showing the first season of the renewal series |
| 17:16.18 | findlay-w | mrpull: what does up to date mean? |
| 17:16.37 | elg | even if you don't like the old stuff, the new stuff is quality sci fi |
| 17:16.48 | mrpull | i dunno something like a patch level in the last 3 or 4 years |
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| 17:17.05 | mrpull | it'd have to be pretty old to be vulnerable |
| 17:17.06 | findlay-w | oh, yeah, bind is up to date |
| 17:18.02 | tristanbob | nick125: do you have a problem with duplicates? |
| 17:18.10 | tristanbob | are you anti-duplicate? |
| 17:20.26 | findlay-w | tensai: got it |
| 17:20.36 | findlay-w | there was a couple of stray TXT records |
| 17:22.08 | bonez39 | I run ps ax | grep <app> to find apps that shouldn't be running. then I kill them...but if i run ps ax again, those same apps show in the list, albeit now 'defunct' or otherwise..how do I clear apps that are in the list? |
| 17:22.16 | beandog | elg, Ill have to see if Netflix has anything |
| 17:22.40 | findlay-w | bonez39: the way I understand it a <defunct> process can't be cleared without a reboot |
| 17:22.56 | beandog | not necessarily |
| 17:23.03 | beandog | well |
| 17:23.04 | beandog | not always. |
| 17:23.06 | findlay-w | well, sometimes? |
| 17:23.07 | bonez39 | findlay-w: well, ok...in any event..it's not occupying any system RAM..right? so it's just in the list and no where else? |
| 17:23.25 | beandog | if its under a shell, then you can kill the shell process |
| 17:23.29 | beandog | I dunno |
| 17:23.36 | elg | beandog: http://www.netflix.com/WatchNowMovie?movieid=70040322&trkid=203083&strkid=1165510008_3_0 |
| 17:23.57 | beandog | dont you need WinDRM to watch that stuff? |
| 17:24.24 | elg | incidentally, written by Douglas Adams |
| 17:24.31 | bonez39 | how can i find out the bare mimimum hardware needed (ram, cpu speed) needed to play a DVD under linux? |
| 17:24.31 | elg | well, you can add it to your queue to |
| 17:24.48 | elg | i've never tried to watch instantly |
| 17:25.01 | beandog | bonez39, its pretty low |
| 17:25.13 | bonez39 | i know I need to upgrade my machine, but I have one sitting around that's a bit faster..want to know if it's worth putting a dvd drive in it and adding speakers, to watch DVD's on it |
| 17:25.14 | beandog | bonez39, pretty much anything would work these days. |
| 17:25.22 | beandog | anything at pentium, up. |
| 17:25.27 | bonez39 | beandog: 'anything' is pretty broad..... |
| 17:26.03 | bonez39 | this machine in quesiton is a pentium III celeron...600 mhz....a dinosaur I know....but are you saying it should be able to run DVDs? |
| 17:26.11 | beandog | Doctor Who: The City of Death has been added to your Queue at position 462. |
| 17:26.20 | beandog | bonez39, yah, itll do fine |
| 17:26.21 | nick125 | bonez39: It should.. |
| 17:26.25 | elg | beandog: :) |
| 17:26.28 | nick125 | I've played DVDs on worse. |
| 17:26.45 | nick125 | 450mhz is the lowest I've tried. |
| 17:26.48 | beandog | I love adding movies to my queue just because the cover looks cool |
| 17:26.58 | beandog | 400 mhz is my lowest trial |
| 17:26.58 | nick125 | haha |
| 17:27.03 | beandog | and I watch all my videos at that |
| 17:27.16 | beandog | over the network, even |
| 17:27.17 | beandog | works great. |
| 17:27.23 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 17:27.52 | beandog | elg, thanks man, that turned up some cool looking recommendations |
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| 17:28.05 | findlay-w | !OOOOM |
| 17:28.24 | beandog | nick125, what you ripping? |
| 17:28.28 | nick125 | beandog: A bunch of CDs. |
| 17:28.33 | findlay-w | for ripping 920+ CDs |
| 17:28.39 | nick125 | Then I'm going to go out and buy more CDs to rip. |
| 17:28.40 | beandog | ah |
| 17:28.51 | findlay-w | I want pristine sha-512 hashed tracks |
| 17:29.03 | beandog | man, who knew there were so many cheesy 70s space movies on DVD? |
| 17:29.08 | findlay-w | heh |
| 17:29.11 | nick125 | I'm trying to get rid of my low-quality 128kbit downloaded music that I bought from russian music sites. |
| 17:29.22 | beandog | Okay |
| 17:29.23 | *** part/#utah bonez39 (n=scott@c-71-195-243-49.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 17:29.25 | beandog | this one is classic |
| 17:29.31 | beandog | Sexy space smuggler Stella Starr (Caroline Munro) and her partner, Akton (Marjoe Gortner), set out on a mission to save Prince Simon (David Hasselhoff), son of the Emperor of the Galaxy (Christopher Plummer), in this racy 1979 sci-fi flick. Stella and Akton go up against Amazons, creepy green aliens, robots and a host of other villains as they attempt to stop the evil Count Zarth Arn (Joe Spinell) and rescue the prince. Robert Tessier also stars. |
| 17:29.41 | beandog | Robert Tessier! yes! |
| 17:29.45 | nick125 | I'm putting everything in OGG Q8, which is the point of invisibility in most ogg tests. |
| 17:29.59 | beandog | who was also in ... a bunch of other movies ive never heard of |
| 17:30.17 | beandog | ooh, David Hasselhoff |
| 17:30.27 | beandog | thats an instant queue-add. It cant be crappy if he's in there. |
| 17:31.46 | Keighvin | beandog: What's the title? |
| 17:32.04 | beandog | crap. |
| 17:32.06 | beandog | hold on |
| 17:32.34 | beandog | Starcrash |
| 17:32.44 | beandog | http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Starcrash/70061738?trkid=214017 |
| 17:36.15 | Keighvin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzfuNSpP0RA |
| 17:37.26 | beandog | oh rock ON |
| 17:37.47 | Keighvin | It even has light sabers. |
| 17:38.06 | Keighvin | Ah, and the horrible stop-motion split-screen big-monsters. |
| 17:38.45 | Keighvin | And a bad guy in a large black helmet, cape, and gloves striding onto a bridge giving orders. |
| 17:40.45 | beandog | oh man I cant wait |
| 17:41.35 | Keighvin | That one needs to be watch in committee Mystery Science Theater style. |
| 17:43.31 | Jayce^ | amen |
| 17:43.44 | beandog | oh man |
| 17:43.47 | beandog | that is a 100% star wars rip |
| 17:45.26 | Jayce^ | dont' even try watching it before midnight |
| 17:45.50 | Keighvin | Since, presumably, you'll be attempting to view this travesty without pharmacological assistance. |
| 17:47.02 | findlay-w | haha |
| 17:47.33 | beandog | oh my crap |
| 17:47.37 | fozzmoo | Your crap? |
| 17:47.41 | beandog | this is the kind of movies I dream of watching |
| 17:47.44 | beandog | Im so excited |
| 17:47.52 | beandog | I should just buy it now |
| 17:48.12 | Keighvin | I can't imagine it would be very expensive. |
| 17:49.12 | tristanbob | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/circuits/04pogue.html |
| 17:49.13 | Jayce^ | unlike star wars christmas, it wasn't forced into hiding... |
| 17:49.16 | brac | [Laptop With a Mission Widens Its Audience - New York Times] |
| 17:49.18 | Jayce^ | just stayed there in shame |
| 17:49.26 | tristanbob | try double-clicking on any word in the article |
| 17:51.21 | beandog | star wars christmas? |
| 17:52.47 | goozbach | beandog: you haven't heard of the star wars holiday special? |
| 17:52.58 | goozbach | ~wiki star wars holiday special |
| 17:52.59 | beandog | no? |
| 17:53.18 | goozbach | Jayce^: methinks we need and intervention |
| 17:53.32 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 17:53.43 | Jayce^ | how can you not get the joke in white and nerdy... |
| 17:53.51 | Jayce^ | your nerf-fu is failing |
| 17:53.54 | beandog | holy crap |
| 17:53.56 | beandog | that looks cool |
| 18:00.55 | goozbach | ibot starcrash $sjansen is <reply> You know, $sjansen, I wouldn't be Emperor of the Galaxy if I didn't have a few powers at my disposal. Imperial Battleship, halt the flow of time! |
| 18:00.56 | ibot | goozbach: okay |
| 18:01.05 | goozbach | ~starcrash Jayce^ |
| 18:01.05 | ibot | You know, Jayce^, I wouldn't be Emperor of the Galaxy if I didn't have a few powers at my disposal. Imperial Battleship, halt the flow of time! |
| 18:03.15 | Keighvin | goozbach ftw |
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| 18:06.30 | Jayce^ | goozbach++ |
| 18:07.42 | goozbach | ~karma goozbach |
| 18:07.42 | ibot | goozbach has karma of 8 |
| 18:07.46 | goozbach | cool! |
| 18:08.08 | Keighvin | ~karma Jayce^ |
| 18:08.08 | ibot | jayce^ has karma of 4 |
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| 18:18.33 | tensai | power outage! yay for UPSes |
| 18:22.56 | elg | ~unplug tensai |
| 18:37.07 | tristanbob | http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Hillary-Clinton-Nutcracker/2568425/product.html |
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| 18:38.17 | bonez44 | findlay-w: ok....I got sound,but the video is jittery......running totem.....do you suggest a different player? |
| 18:38.48 | tristanbob | Hillary Clinton Nutcracker |
| 18:41.44 | mrpull | wait... bonez are you breaking the law? |
| 18:44.29 | bonez44 | mrpull well, no,just playing a DVD I legally purchased....... |
| 18:45.03 | bonez44 | sorry I asked...... |
| 18:45.28 | bonez44 | I guess it's obligatory though,eh, to ask..... |
| 18:53.52 | redbeard2 | wow. let's here it for web security on financial websites! |
| 18:54.21 | redbeard2 | i went to a site that told me that it didn't recognize the computer that i was logging in from... so it asked for my email for verification |
| 18:54.51 | redbeard2 | i got as far as joseph@ before fat-fingering and accidentally hitting the enter key early. it apparently decided that was enough, and it let me in. |
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| 18:55.35 | elg | redbeard2: naet trick |
| 18:55.40 | bonez44 | redbeard2: a bank? |
| 18:55.41 | elg | I'll have to try that sometimes |
| 18:55.52 | elg | does it work for your account number too? |
| 18:56.05 | bonez44 | is this oneof those nigerian financialsites? |
| 18:56.10 | redbeard2 | bonez44: kind of. i was making a loan payment. |
| 18:56.28 | bonez44 | get your $$ away from them...sounds dangerous |
| 18:56.34 | redbeard2 | nah. the website is owned by ge (they bring good things to life, just not good security) |
| 18:58.52 | elg | levi: got any fun graph problems (undergrad-level stuff), especially dealing with connectivity, under your hat? |
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| 19:04.32 | moriancumer | decriptor: how did the release party go? |
| 19:04.54 | decriptor | awesome, lots of food give aways |
| 19:05.06 | decriptor | 5 ipods and a digital camera were among the top items |
| 19:05.24 | moriancumer | decriptor: sweet |
| 19:05.50 | decriptor | almost everyone walked out with something |
| 19:06.16 | moriancumer | decriptor: Are there give aways for the Multi-distro party in November? |
| 19:06.26 | decriptor | not sure |
| 19:06.39 | decriptor | Novell is the one that gave us all of that stuff including tons of food |
| 19:10.42 | jbellis | too bad i was busy spending 3 hours at the doctor's with my son :) |
| 19:11.59 | bonez44 | jbellis: what did you get for the three hours of your lifeyou gave up? |
| 19:12.23 | jbellis | a less-horribly mangled toe |
| 19:12.36 | jbellis | and codeine |
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| 20:02.09 | levi | elg: Hmm. Not off the top of my head. |
| 20:02.17 | levi | I've got a guitar now, though. |
| 20:04.29 | levi | Hah. It's a low-end guitar, and I don't know how to play it yet. |
| 20:04.55 | levi | My amp originally sold for >$500, though, for whatever that's worth. |
| 20:05.07 | RyanE | levi: electric, I assume, since you've been talking amplifiers. |
| 20:07.29 | fozzmoo | Could be an acoustic with a pickup or a mic. |
| 20:08.12 | vontrapp | who wants beast? |
| 20:08.49 | RyanE | roast beast? |
| 20:14.24 | vontrapp | elg: i don't see any yellow vontrapps, and it's way to chatty |
| 20:14.42 | vontrapp | so unless you tell me who it was or whoever it was comes forward... |
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| 20:26.48 | tensai | so the UPS didn't hold as long as I thought it would |
| 20:27.02 | tensai | ~steal elg's power |
| 20:27.03 | ibot | ACTION grabs elg's power and gives it to tensai |
| 20:28.15 | goozbach | how does one install a ruby gem? |
| 20:28.21 | goozbach | I've never done it before |
| 20:28.36 | decriptor | I think there is a package you install and then it provides an app for installs |
| 20:28.40 | goozbach | I'm trying to get gem2rpm installed so I don't have to do it again either |
| 20:28.47 | mrpull | tensai: generator time! |
| 20:29.26 | tensai | mrpull: would be nice, but a bit overkill for my house |
| 20:29.50 | tensai | I would like a wind turbine though. wish they were a bit more affordable. |
| 20:30.34 | levi | RyanE: Yup, it's electric. |
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| 20:59.10 | levi | UtahBot, eh? |
| 20:59.33 | fozzmoo | smells like atoponce |
| 21:02.30 | mrpull | looks like he doesn't bring anything that iBot doesn't |
| 21:04.59 | atoponce | yeah. that's my bot, under heavy dev |
| 21:05.06 | atoponce | he doesn't really do anything usefull right now |
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| 21:22.17 | Supaplex | ~eat UtahBot |
| 21:22.18 | ibot | ACTION eats UtahBot and falls over dead |
| 21:23.33 | Keighvin | ~starcrash UtahBot |
| 21:23.34 | ibot | You know, UtahBot, I wouldn't be Emperor of the Galaxy if I didn't have a few powers at my disposal. Imperial Battleship, halt the flow of time! |
| 21:25.14 | beandog | lol |
| 21:26.13 | Supaplex | hehee |
| 21:26.25 | Keighvin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starcrash |
| 21:26.49 | Keighvin | I hadn't known it was Italian, but that makes a lot of sense. |
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| 21:35.59 | bonez44 | I get the following, when running 'mount' /dev/hda on /media/CHANGING_LIVES type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,iocharset=utf8) I can't seem to play this DVD with mplayer....Iget a -vo error....???? |
| 21:38.12 | mrpull | bonez44: it is the MPAA messing with you |
| 21:39.02 | Supaplex | -vo error: a |
| 21:39.11 | Supaplex | that's so vague. |
| 21:39.22 | Supaplex | bonez44: show us at http://rafb.net/paste |
| 21:40.49 | Keighvin | -vo == video output? |
| 21:40.49 | brac | no clue |
| 21:41.02 | Supaplex | Keighvin: yes, afaik. |
| 21:42.06 | Keighvin | The only time I've ever run into that with mplayer was when the default driver was too slow - I needed to speficy an alternate to get the performance I needed. |
| 21:42.29 | nick125 | mplayer is pretty good for video. |
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| 21:46.06 | mrpull | Supaplex: why so long? |
| 21:47.24 | Supaplex | mostly for vserver instances |
| 21:47.32 | nick125 | vserver...mmm |
| 21:47.38 | nick125 | as in linux-vserver? |
| 21:48.31 | Supaplex | yes |
| 21:48.39 | nick125 | How is it? |
| 21:48.56 | Supaplex | it has a few caveats, but overall I like it a lot. |
| 21:49.21 | Supaplex | I haven't tested the newest stable release, which addresses most of the caveats I'm concerned about |
| 21:49.34 | nick125 | ooo |
| 21:49.44 | nick125 | you can run 32bit vserver hosts on a 64bit host. |
| 21:49.51 | nick125 | you can run 32bit vserver guests on a 64bit host. |
| 21:49.52 | nick125 | rather. |
| 21:49.59 | Supaplex | yup |
| 21:50.39 | Supaplex | and unlike xen, vmware, qemu, kvm, - all the processes run off the same kernel. |
| 21:50.50 | nick125 | I'm thinking of setting up some kind of virtualization on my server.. |
| 21:51.03 | nick125 | What does vserver use for networking? |
| 21:51.32 | nick125 | (Routed, bridged, etc) |
| 21:52.06 | Supaplex | some alias interface usually, but a native interface is good just the same. |
| 21:52.24 | nick125 | My main gripe about xen was the horrible networking. |
| 21:52.37 | nick125 | By default, it used bridged network, which would just randomly die for no apparent reason. |
| 21:52.47 | Supaplex | I have 3 lines of config for each guest |
| 21:53.00 | Supaplex | and the host has to have it running like it normally would. |
| 21:54.37 | mrpull | Supaplex: have you evaluated openvz? |
| 21:54.53 | Supaplex | http://rafb.net/p/Uam5wM87.html |
| 21:55.04 | nick125 | the only good thing about xen that linux-vserver can't do is run HVM guests. |
| 21:55.14 | nick125 | Which is...interesting sometimes. |
| 21:55.16 | Supaplex | mrpull: not enough to call it an evaluation. |
| 21:56.01 | nick125 | The thing that is nice about linux-vserver from my glance is that they actually have an up-to-date kernel. |
| 21:56.02 | Supaplex | nick125: that's why I use vserver+xen on my x64 box. |
| 21:56.58 | nick125 | OpenVZ is still on 2.6.18, and I think xen is somewhere around 2.6.19 (I've been out of the virtualization loop for a while) |
| 21:57.14 | nick125 | When I tried openvz on my laptop, it kernel panicked when I launched firefox. |
| 21:57.24 | Supaplex | debian is playing plenty of catch up to, so I don't notice too much. |
| 21:57.35 | Supaplex | haha nice |
| 21:58.03 | nick125 | I'm like "uhh...wtf?" |
| 21:58.32 | Supaplex | the only kernel panics I've seen are from 3rd party kernel modules. |
| 21:58.35 | nick125 | I was going to fire up firefox to figure out how to add a new guest OS :P |
| 21:58.54 | nick125 | Supaplex: Does linux-vserver work with the nvidia blob driver? |
| 21:59.17 | Supaplex | yes, but xen does not, last I tried (maybe it works better in sid/lenny) |
| 21:59.36 | nick125 | About Xen/Nvidia: |
| 21:59.38 | mrpull | i did an eval of openvz's commercial brother (virtuozzo) and was really impressed |
| 21:59.41 | nick125 | short answer: no, it doesn't work. |
| 22:00.03 | nick125 | longer answer: The nvidia drivers will work if they are patched to work with Xen and to get around its oddballness. |
| 22:00.17 | Supaplex | yeah. well there you have it. |
| 22:00.48 | Supaplex | I had issues with X in general and xen. |
| 22:00.51 | nick125 | mrpull: They take the only good reasons to use virtuozzo out of openvz imho. |
| 22:01.22 | nick125 | Which is overselling and the management tools |
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| 22:01.31 | Supaplex | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=442771 |
| 22:01.58 | nick125 | (If I was doing hosted VDS, overselling would not happen, but, on my small home network, it'd save some time) |
| 22:02.08 | mrpull | nick125: the windows support of the commercial version was important to me in my eval |
| 22:02.58 | bonez39 | is there any way, to control another machine...on my office lan.....? I know I could get a KVM switch...but wondering if this can be done using ssh or otherwise? |
| 22:03.27 | nick125 | VNC |
| 22:03.37 | mrpull | bonez44: there are lots of choices. what are the OS's? |
| 22:04.24 | nick125 | VNC is pretty cross platform. Clients exist for Linux, BSD, OS X, Windows, Palm OS, iPhone, Windows Mobile, and so on. |
| 22:07.53 | Supaplex | VNC also has some compatibility issues between differing clients/servers (but you'll just have to hope you can avoid those) |
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| 22:08.28 | nick125 | There are also RDP servers and clients for linux, I believe (I know that clients exist, not positive on servers) |
| 22:09.05 | mrpull | tsclient is a good RDP client... i'm not aware of any RDP servers for Linux |
| 22:09.24 | bonez39 | mrpull sarge on one machine....where i want to control the other, which is running etch |
| 22:09.51 | mrpull | vnc is probably the path of least resistance |
| 22:10.18 | bonez39 | right now, I end up unpluggin the video cable from one machine, and into the other....at the etch machine....to share the monitor...since I don't have room for two monitors... |
| 22:10.33 | Keighvin | Or the slightly newer-fangled `ssh -X` |
| 22:10.36 | bonez39 | Keighvin: well, I'd like to use ssh ... but not sure how ....... |
| 22:10.55 | bonez39 | Keighvin: know any good tutorials on using 'ssh -X' |
| 22:11.29 | Keighvin | ssh -X just sets up an implicit tunnel for forwarding X requests. |
| 22:11.30 | Supaplex | ssh -X box ; login ; xclock |
| 22:12.21 | nick125 | ssh -X usually works, sometimes certain applications won't like it. |
| 22:12.44 | bonez39 | Supaplex: by 'box' there, you mean the network name, or the explicit IP of the box, right? |
| 22:13.15 | Supaplex | yup |
| 22:13.25 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 22:13.39 | nick125 | You can also pass normal ssh variables, such as -p, -l |
| 22:14.01 | Supaplex | some apps like firefox are tricky, and will signal any other copy on your xdisplay to clone a new window |
| 22:14.14 | mrpull | Ogden School District has an astounding 49 percent of students dropping out |
| 22:14.19 | mrpull | WTF? |
| 22:14.21 | nick125 | Supaplex: I've had thunderbird just completely crash. |
| 22:14.38 | Hearts|laptop | Not surprising |
| 22:15.01 | nick125 | Hahah, Best Buy is considering buying Covad. |
| 22:15.44 | Supaplex | but covad isn't best buy |
| 22:16.00 | Supaplex | but covad isn't a best buy |
| 22:16.09 | nick125 | haha |
| 22:16.29 | Supaplex | at this rate they'll buy qwest next ;) |
| 22:18.37 | nick125 | One evil company buying another. That wouldn't surprise me. |
| 22:18.56 | nick125 | (Both covad and qwest) |
| 22:19.23 | Supaplex | yeah, that we can almost accept |
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| 22:20.42 | bonez39 | Supaplex: ok, ssh -X works..and xclock works...do gui apps work too? |
| 22:21.13 | Supaplex | yes, that's the idea =) |
| 22:21.40 | thaddeusq | bonez39: xclock is a gui app |
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| 22:22.41 | Supaplex | bonez39: and if you check top, you'll see it's running on one box (the one you logged into), but displayed on another. |
| 22:28.41 | markl_ | bonez39: don't you consider xclock a gui app? |
| 22:28.54 | markl_ | admittedly it's quite a simple one :) |
| 22:36.22 | bonez39 | yes, xclock is a gui app....fair enough |
| 22:37.27 | mrpull | bonez39: xeyes is my remote gui app "hello world" of choice |
| 22:39.37 | klys | shadowwire: ping |
| 22:44.41 | klys | ~quote orcl |
| 22:45.28 | maquis | ~quote amzn |
| 22:47.13 | atoponce | ~quote scox |
| 22:47.24 | atoponce | it's climbing |
| 22:47.33 | atoponce | ~blame tene |
| 22:47.34 | ibot | ACTION blames tene (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:48.05 | maquis | i thought they got kicked off |
| 22:48.13 | nick125 | maquis: Me too. |
| 22:48.32 | atoponce | they got noticed... |
| 22:48.39 | atoponce | which i think they are fighting |
| 22:48.40 | nick125 | http://stuff.techwhack.com/archives/2007/09/29/sco-nasdaq/ |
| 22:48.43 | maquis | ah |
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